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Church Fuel June 21, 2023 1h 2m

How a Brand-New Church Got 21 First Time Guests | Plan Your Visit System that Works w/ Chris Abbott

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  1. hey if you're interested in growing your hey if you're interested in growing your church we're going to show you how a church we're going to show you how a church we're going to show you how a brand new church got 21 first-time brand new church got 21 first-time brand new church got 21 first-time guests using the system that we're going guests using the system that we're going guests using the system that we're going to talk about we're also going to show to talk about we're also going to show to talk about we're also going to show you how to use a simple Facebook ad to you how to use a simple Facebook ad to you how to use a simple Facebook ad to get as many visitors as you want every get as many visitors as you want every get as many visitors as you want every single Sunday also we're going to show single Sunday also we're going to show single Sunday also we're going to show you the number one mistake that churches you the number one mistake that churches you the number one mistake that churches make when using plan your visit that make when using plan your visit that make when using plan your visit that actually keeps people away from your actually keeps people away from your actually keeps people away from your church and hey before we get started we church and hey before we get started we church and hey before we get started we want to share with you our top 10 Church want to share with you our top 10 Church want to share with you our top 10 Church growth resources so I'm going to drop growth resources so I'm going to drop growth resources so I'm going to drop this link here on the um actually I'm this link here on the um actually I'm this link here on the um actually I'm going to share uh this with you real going to share uh this with you real going to share uh this with you real quick if you just want to text free to quick if you just want to text free to quick if you just want to text free to 417-204-5153 it's going to give you a 417-204-5153 it's going to give you a 417-204-5153 it's going to give you a chance to get access to these top 10 chance to get access to these top 10 chance to get access to these top 10 Church growth resources so make sure you Church growth resources so make sure you Church growth resources so make sure you get a hold of that but without further get a hold of that but without further get a hold of that but without further we welcome Chris Abbott here to the we welcome Chris Abbott here to the we welcome Chris Abbott here to the interview so glad to have you Chris bro interview so glad to have you Chris bro interview so glad to have you Chris bro Nathan thanks for having me super Nathan thanks for having me super Nathan thanks for having me super excited man yeah yeah we're gonna have excited man yeah yeah we're gonna have excited man yeah yeah we're gonna have some fun today as we we talk about uh some fun today as we we talk about uh some fun today as we we talk about uh growing some Churches man helping people growing some Churches man helping people growing some Churches man helping people see more visitors on a weekend making see more visitors on a weekend making see more visitors on a weekend making Heaven more crowded you know all those Heaven more crowded you know all those Heaven more crowded you know all those good things so uh Chris and I go way good things so uh Chris and I go way good things so uh Chris and I go way back he's been a great friend and uh I'm back he's been a great friend and uh I'm back he's been a great friend and uh I'm really excited to just be talking to you really excited to just be talking to you really excited to just be talking to you and talking your experience with um how and talking your experience with um how and talking your experience with um how to help people see more visitors on a to help people see more visitors on a to help people see more visitors on a weekend at their church so weekend at their church so weekend at their church so um man let's let's dive into this I know um man let's let's dive into this I know um man let's let's dive into this I know that we're specifically uh talking about that we're specifically uh talking about that we're specifically uh talking about a system but I want you just to hear a system but I want you just to hear a system but I want you just to hear from you from you from you um kind of how you maybe even stumbled um kind of how you maybe even stumbled um kind of how you maybe even stumbled on to

  2. on to on to um the value of what we're going to be um the value of what we're going to be um the value of what we're going to be talking about uh you know how did you talking about uh you know how did you talking about uh you know how did you discover this and because it's kind of a discover this and because it's kind of a discover this and because it's kind of a cool story how it all unraveled and uh cool story how it all unraveled and uh cool story how it all unraveled and uh just kind of cool how you solve this just kind of cool how you solve this just kind of cool how you solve this explosive growth I guess is the best way explosive growth I guess is the best way explosive growth I guess is the best way to describe it so I'm just gonna let you to describe it so I'm just gonna let you to describe it so I'm just gonna let you jump in and uh talk to uh all of us jump in and uh talk to uh all of us jump in and uh talk to uh all of us about like how did the church start about like how did the church start about like how did the church start growing uh using the system growing uh using the system growing uh using the system yes I mean so it was it was really yes I mean so it was it was really yes I mean so it was it was really interesting you know when we were when interesting you know when we were when interesting you know when we were when when we first came up with this idea uh when we first came up with this idea uh when we first came up with this idea uh it was Easter of 2017 right so I was you it was Easter of 2017 right so I was you it was Easter of 2017 right so I was you know on staff at my church we're trying know on staff at my church we're trying know on staff at my church we're trying to figure out like okay how do we how do to figure out like okay how do we how do to figure out like okay how do we how do we just get more people in and we were we just get more people in and we were we just get more people in and we were you know we were seeing visitors but we you know we were seeing visitors but we you know we were seeing visitors but we really wanted to try to uh try to get a really wanted to try to uh try to get a really wanted to try to uh try to get a lot more visitors and you know I just lot more visitors and you know I just lot more visitors and you know I just kind of had this thought of like man we kind of had this thought of like man we kind of had this thought of like man we have such a great uh culture inside of have such a great uh culture inside of have such a great uh culture inside of our church right like like we're just our church right like like we're just our church right like like we're just like hospitality is a really really big like hospitality is a really really big like hospitality is a really really big core value for us uh and I thought man core value for us uh and I thought man core value for us uh and I thought man if we could just get them to church and if we could just get them to church and if we could just get them to church and we can host them and that's like that's we can host them and that's like that's we can host them and that's like that's a home game right and we always win home a home game right and we always win home a home game right and we always win home games so I it came up with this idea of games so I it came up with this idea of games so I it came up with this idea of plan your visit and and really it's just plan your visit and and really it's just plan your visit and and really it's just uh digital marketing principles that uh digital marketing principles that uh digital marketing principles that work in work in work in um in the online world like in the um in the online world like in the um in the online world like in the business world but you know I was trying business world but you know I was trying business world but you know I was trying to figure out how they translate to the to figure out how they translate to the to figure out how they translate to the church world right because like in the church world right because like in the church world right because like in the business world you can run like a business world you can run like a business world you can run like a Facebook ad or Google ad or YouTube ad Facebook ad or Google ad or YouTube ad Facebook ad or Google ad or YouTube ad or something like that and try to sell or something like that and try to sell or something like that and try to sell something you can send them to your something you can send them to your something you can send them to your website and then they go like buy your website and then they go like buy your website and then they go like buy your thing uh right they go you know buy your thing uh right they go you know buy your thing uh right they go you know buy your your widget or like your your brand of your widget or like your your brand of your widget or like your your brand of dog food right check out and then it dog food right check out and then it dog food right check out and then it arrives in the mail well that's like arrives in the mail well that's like arrives in the mail well that's like there's nothing like that in the church there's nothing like that in the church there's nothing like that in the church world right we're not selling anything world right we're not selling anything world right we're not selling anything we're not trying to get them to buy

  3. we're not trying to get them to buy we're not trying to get them to buy anything trying to get them to visit on anything trying to get them to visit on anything trying to get them to visit on Sunday and so I I just kind of have that Sunday and so I I just kind of have that Sunday and so I I just kind of have that idea of like okay what if we use that idea of like okay what if we use that idea of like okay what if we use that same framework like okay but what does same framework like okay but what does same framework like okay but what does the sale look like because we're not the sale look like because we're not the sale look like because we're not trying to get them to you know buy trying to get them to you know buy trying to get them to you know buy anything anything anything um and and I was just thinking well I um and and I was just thinking well I um and and I was just thinking well I was like if if we could if we could get was like if if we could if we could get was like if if we could if we could get them to like schedule an appointment to them to like schedule an appointment to them to like schedule an appointment to visit the church uh and then that way visit the church uh and then that way visit the church uh and then that way like we knew that they were coming not like we knew that they were coming not like we knew that they were coming not only could we like reach out to them only could we like reach out to them only could we like reach out to them beforehand and like try to answer some beforehand and like try to answer some beforehand and like try to answer some of the questions that like you know keep of the questions that like you know keep of the questions that like you know keep people from wanting to come to church people from wanting to come to church people from wanting to come to church you know like it just simple stuff like you know like it just simple stuff like you know like it just simple stuff like oh man what do I wear where do I park I oh man what do I wear where do I park I oh man what do I wear where do I park I wouldn't even know what video you know wouldn't even know what video you know wouldn't even know what video you know what what uh what door to go into I what what uh what door to go into I what what uh what door to go into I don't know where the bathrooms are and a don't know where the bathrooms are and a don't know where the bathrooms are and a lot of those objections up front right lot of those objections up front right lot of those objections up front right you lower the bare of entry for people you lower the bare of entry for people you lower the bare of entry for people to actually come in because we forget to actually come in because we forget to actually come in because we forget like I don't know about you Nathan like like I don't know about you Nathan like like I don't know about you Nathan like I I got saved when I was 13 years old I I got saved when I was 13 years old I I got saved when I was 13 years old I've been in church almost every Sunday I've been in church almost every Sunday I've been in church almost every Sunday since right except for like a little since right except for like a little since right except for like a little rebellious period when I was 15 like rebellious period when I was 15 like rebellious period when I was 15 like every every Sunday a lot of times two or every every Sunday a lot of times two or every every Sunday a lot of times two or three services a week right so like we three services a week right so like we three services a week right so like we forget just how awkward it is for forget just how awkward it is for forget just how awkward it is for someone to come to church for the very someone to come to church for the very someone to come to church for the very first time right especially if they if first time right especially if they if first time right especially if they if they're unsaved they're unchurched they're unsaved they're unchurched they're unsaved they're unchurched they've never been to church before or they've never been to church before or they've never been to church before or maybe they were drugged to church when maybe they were drugged to church when maybe they were drugged to church when they were a kid and they haven't been they were a kid and they haven't been they were a kid and they haven't been back in 30 years and and have a negative back in 30 years and and have a negative back in 30 years and and have a negative connotation what church is so plan your connotation what church is so plan your connotation what church is so plan your visit is just a great way to kind of visit is just a great way to kind of visit is just a great way to kind of lower the barrier of entry and make it a lower the barrier of entry and make it a lower the barrier of entry and make it a lot easier and simpler for people to to lot easier and simpler for people to to lot easier and simpler for people to to you know visit the church you know visit the church you know visit the church um so you know what was what was cool is um so you know what was what was cool is um so you know what was what was cool is like when we started using planar visit like when we started using planar visit like when we started using planar visit like the first month that we used it we like the first month that we used it we like the first month that we used it we ended up increasing our first time ended up increasing our first time ended up increasing our first time Visitors by 42 uh in the second month by

  4. Visitors by 42 uh in the second month by Visitors by 42 uh in the second month by 60 in the third month by 87 uh and then 60 in the third month by 87 uh and then 60 in the third month by 87 uh and then in the fourth month by 113 right so like in the fourth month by 113 right so like in the fourth month by 113 right so like literally like we just saw like our literally like we just saw like our literally like we just saw like our visitors go like this right and the the visitors go like this right and the the visitors go like this right and the the coolest part wasn't just like visitors coolest part wasn't just like visitors coolest part wasn't just like visitors right because like everybody wants right because like everybody wants right because like everybody wants visitors but the visitors just show up visitors but the visitors just show up visitors but the visitors just show up and never come back again right of and never come back again right of and never come back again right of anybody right it doesn't help us anybody right it doesn't help us anybody right it doesn't help us right so right so right so um but what we found was that uh out of um but what we found was that uh out of um but what we found was that uh out of those eight out of ten people that came those eight out of ten people that came those eight out of ten people that came through playing your visit ended up through playing your visit ended up through playing your visit ended up joining our church within three weeks joining our church within three weeks joining our church within three weeks wow right so like so on average if wow right so like so on average if wow right so like so on average if somebody just came and visited the somebody just came and visited the somebody just came and visited the church just like a normal visitor showed church just like a normal visitor showed church just like a normal visitor showed up on Sunday right it was kind of Hit or up on Sunday right it was kind of Hit or up on Sunday right it was kind of Hit or Miss for a little while and and if they Miss for a little while and and if they Miss for a little while and and if they ended up uh joining our church which was ended up uh joining our church which was ended up uh joining our church which was a lot it was a much lower percentage a lot it was a much lower percentage a lot it was a much lower percentage right it was somewhere in like the three right it was somewhere in like the three right it was somewhere in like the three to six month range before they would to six month range before they would to six month range before they would finally go through next steps and join finally go through next steps and join finally go through next steps and join also we launched planner visit and now also we launched planner visit and now also we launched planner visit and now eight out of 10 people are joining the eight out of 10 people are joining the eight out of 10 people are joining the church and they're doing it in the first church and they're doing it in the first church and they're doing it in the first three weeks right so it just set up our three weeks right so it just set up our three weeks right so it just set up our assimilation process assimilation process assimilation process um and and I think it's just because um and and I think it's just because um and and I think it's just because from the very first time they said uh from the very first time they said uh from the very first time they said uh you know foot on campus they're making a you know foot on campus they're making a you know foot on campus they're making a connection uh with with people right connection uh with with people right connection uh with with people right like an actual personal connection like an actual personal connection like an actual personal connection not just like high-fiving the greeter as not just like high-fiving the greeter as not just like high-fiving the greeter as they come in or having a smiling person they come in or having a smiling person they come in or having a smiling person in the parking lot all those are in the parking lot all those are in the parking lot all those are important but making an actual important but making an actual important but making an actual connection is what really matters and connection is what really matters and connection is what really matters and what really helps you know with with what really helps you know with with what really helps you know with with your connection and speeding up uh uh your connection and speeding up uh uh your connection and speeding up uh uh your your assimilation uh process yeah your your assimilation uh process yeah your your assimilation uh process yeah it's like starting it earlier you like it's like starting it earlier you like it's like starting it earlier you like get to start it even before they come get to start it even before they come get to start it even before they come they're already getting a sense starting

  5. they're already getting a sense starting they're already getting a sense starting growth tracker the assimilation process growth tracker the assimilation process growth tracker the assimilation process so they're already you know ready to so they're already you know ready to so they're already you know ready to jump in more quickly after it's like oh jump in more quickly after it's like oh jump in more quickly after it's like oh yeah this is the place I want to be that yeah this is the place I want to be that yeah this is the place I want to be that totally makes sense why that that's totally makes sense why that that's totally makes sense why that that's almost like another benefit of doing almost like another benefit of doing almost like another benefit of doing plan your visit yeah honestly in this plan your visit yeah honestly in this plan your visit yeah honestly in this interview I didn't even even like put interview I didn't even even like put interview I didn't even even like put that together until you just said it and that together until you just said it and that together until you just said it and I've we've talked a lot about plan your I've we've talked a lot about plan your I've we've talked a lot about plan your visit so uh that's really cool dude visit so uh that's really cool dude visit so uh that's really cool dude that's I mean you think about it like so that's I mean you think about it like so that's I mean you think about it like so if if someone came to church like if one if if someone came to church like if one if if someone came to church like if one of your buddies right like you've been of your buddies right like you've been of your buddies right like you've been talking about coming to church you talking about coming to church you talking about coming to church you invite him and he comes out to church invite him and he comes out to church invite him and he comes out to church there's a pretty good chance he's like there's a pretty good chance he's like there's a pretty good chance he's like gonna get plugged in and you know like gonna get plugged in and you know like gonna get plugged in and you know like like join the church like because he like join the church like because he like join the church like because he knows you right he's not just showing up knows you right he's not just showing up knows you right he's not just showing up like and not knowing anybody right like like and not knowing anybody right like like and not knowing anybody right like he shows up knowing you like oh yeah he shows up knowing you like oh yeah he shows up knowing you like oh yeah like and then like when people are like like and then like when people are like like and then like when people are like oh hey dude you're Nathan's friend right oh hey dude you're Nathan's friend right oh hey dude you're Nathan's friend right at least gives him a little bit of an at least gives him a little bit of an at least gives him a little bit of an identity he's like oh yeah hey what's up identity he's like oh yeah hey what's up identity he's like oh yeah hey what's up I'm ammo right and then you get a chance I'm ammo right and then you get a chance I'm ammo right and then you get a chance to like to meet him it's like oh yeah to like to meet him it's like oh yeah to like to meet him it's like oh yeah like you're Nathan's friend when you like you're Nathan's friend when you like you're Nathan's friend when you come in for the first time you have no come in for the first time you have no come in for the first time you have no idea right it's like I call it like high idea right it's like I call it like high idea right it's like I call it like high school cafeteria syndrome right it's school cafeteria syndrome right it's school cafeteria syndrome right it's like you walk in the high school first like you walk in the high school first like you walk in the high school first day of high school and like look around day of high school and like look around day of high school and like look around like I legit had a plan like I remember like I legit had a plan like I remember like I legit had a plan like I remember like I'm gonna go in like no matter what like I'm gonna go in like no matter what like I'm gonna go in like no matter what I'm gonna look around like I'm gonna I'm gonna look around like I'm gonna I'm gonna look around like I'm gonna find like the cool kids or like my find like the cool kids or like my find like the cool kids or like my friends or whatever like I'm doing and I friends or whatever like I'm doing and I friends or whatever like I'm doing and I walked in and got nervous like I freaked walked in and got nervous like I freaked walked in and got nervous like I freaked out because it feels like everyone's out because it feels like everyone's out because it feels like everyone's looking at you right and they're not looking at you right and they're not looking at you right and they're not they're just but everyone's like looking they're just but everyone's like looking they're just but everyone's like looking around it feels like I'm like ah and around it feels like I'm like ah and around it feels like I'm like ah and then I sat down at the very first table then I sat down at the very first table then I sat down at the very first table right as you walk in buy myself like a right as you walk in buy myself like a right as you walk in buy myself like a loser and I'm like oh exactly what I loser and I'm like oh exactly what I loser and I'm like oh exactly what I said I wasn't gonna do right well the said I wasn't gonna do right well the said I wasn't gonna do right well the same exact thing happens to our visitors same exact thing happens to our visitors same exact thing happens to our visitors right so people like I guess they're right so people like I guess they're right so people like I guess they're sitting in the back because they want to

  6. sitting in the back because they want to sitting in the back because they want to be left alone and they just kind of want be left alone and they just kind of want be left alone and they just kind of want to check out the service not at all they to check out the service not at all they to check out the service not at all they want to connect with people they're want to connect with people they're want to connect with people they're sitting in the back because that's where sitting in the back because that's where sitting in the back because that's where the door is right like they walk in the the door is right like they walk in the the door is right like they walk in the door or had that like freak out moment door or had that like freak out moment door or had that like freak out moment like ah everyone knows that I don't like ah everyone knows that I don't like ah everyone knows that I don't belong here and they just sit down belong here and they just sit down belong here and they just sit down right um so so that plan your visit right um so so that plan your visit right um so so that plan your visit helps cure all that right and it just it helps cure all that right and it just it helps cure all that right and it just it kind of speeds up the simulation process kind of speeds up the simulation process kind of speeds up the simulation process because they basically make a friend uh because they basically make a friend uh because they basically make a friend uh the very first time that they that they the very first time that they that they the very first time that they that they come out to campus well it's funny you come out to campus well it's funny you come out to campus well it's funny you mentioned that I actually had that mentioned that I actually had that mentioned that I actually had that experience recently where I had uh some experience recently where I had uh some experience recently where I had uh some time off and so I was able to go visit time off and so I was able to go visit time off and so I was able to go visit another a place and another church and another a place and another church and another a place and another church and man totally nowhere to hide and didn't man totally nowhere to hide and didn't man totally nowhere to hide and didn't know anybody everyone knew like it was a know anybody everyone knew like it was a know anybody everyone knew like it was a smaller church and everyone knew like smaller church and everyone knew like smaller church and everyone knew like okay my wife and I went and it's like oh okay my wife and I went and it's like oh okay my wife and I went and it's like oh they're first time guests it would have they're first time guests it would have they're first time guests it would have really helped you know um to be able to really helped you know um to be able to really helped you know um to be able to have somebody I know and then walk in have somebody I know and then walk in have somebody I know and then walk in with them and or have it you know some with them and or have it you know some with them and or have it you know some kind of conversation kind of conversation kind of conversation pre-like Sanctuary you know when the pre-like Sanctuary you know when the pre-like Sanctuary you know when the pastor sees yes oh you must be new like pastor sees yes oh you must be new like pastor sees yes oh you must be new like we don't get very many of you we don't get very many of you we don't get very many of you so so and I'm and and I'm a teaching so so and I'm and and I'm a teaching so so and I'm and and I'm a teaching Pastor like I I'm a pastor like I I'm a Pastor like I I'm a pastor like I I'm a Pastor like I I'm a pastor like I I'm a professional Christian and you know for professional Christian and you know for professional Christian and you know for me it was like scary so uh it it it just me it was like scary so uh it it it just me it was like scary so uh it it it just reminds me of that kind of thing and reminds me of that kind of thing and reminds me of that kind of thing and this this takes that out of it which is this this takes that out of it which is this this takes that out of it which is a huge obstacle for people so man this a huge obstacle for people so man this a huge obstacle for people so man this is like super good and super powerful so is like super good and super powerful so is like super good and super powerful so um yeah well continue on man well yeah um yeah well continue on man well yeah um yeah well continue on man well yeah so you know I mean and and you nailed it so you know I mean and and you nailed it so you know I mean and and you nailed it bro right like I I actually went to I bro right like I I actually went to I bro right like I I actually went to I was visiting a church in Michigan uh one was visiting a church in Michigan uh one was visiting a church in Michigan uh one time whatever I was actually up there

  7. time whatever I was actually up there time whatever I was actually up there like doing some some Consulting I went like doing some some Consulting I went like doing some some Consulting I went to church for the first time and I was to church for the first time and I was to church for the first time and I was actually really really impressed because actually really really impressed because actually really really impressed because um you know and and this is you know um you know and and this is you know um you know and and this is you know something you kind of learn along the something you kind of learn along the something you kind of learn along the way especially like we did this with way especially like we did this with way especially like we did this with with our planner visit host is like this with our planner visit host is like this with our planner visit host is like this guy like didn't recognize me right so guy like didn't recognize me right so guy like didn't recognize me right so instead of coming up and being like dude instead of coming up and being like dude instead of coming up and being like dude are you new because then you feel are you new because then you feel are you new because then you feel awkward and you feel like oh do I stick awkward and you feel like oh do I stick awkward and you feel like oh do I stick out like a sore thumb right do I still out like a sore thumb right do I still out like a sore thumb right do I still smell like cigarettes from the night smell like cigarettes from the night smell like cigarettes from the night before or like I was out doing sinful before or like I was out doing sinful before or like I was out doing sinful shameful stuff right like because that's shameful stuff right like because that's shameful stuff right like because that's people who are far from God number one people who are far from God number one people who are far from God number one that's what they do and number two that's what they do and number two that's what they do and number two that's something people when they come that's something people when they come that's something people when they come in right right but instead like he just in right right but instead like he just in right right but instead like he just came and goes uh he goes hey man I don't came and goes uh he goes hey man I don't came and goes uh he goes hey man I don't think we've met you know my name's John think we've met you know my name's John think we've met you know my name's John right and I was like oh hey John oh man right and I was like oh hey John oh man right and I was like oh hey John oh man you know I'm uh I'm I'm Chris he's like you know I'm uh I'm I'm Chris he's like you know I'm uh I'm I'm Chris he's like oh man Chris that's awesome dude how oh man Chris that's awesome dude how oh man Chris that's awesome dude how long have you been going to the church long have you been going to the church long have you been going to the church and I immediately I was like this guy's and I immediately I was like this guy's and I immediately I was like this guy's been trained and knows what's up right been trained and knows what's up right been trained and knows what's up right yeah yeah yeah you knew right right like yeah yeah yeah you knew right right like yeah yeah yeah you knew right right like hey we've never met before my name is hey we've never met before my name is hey we've never met before my name is John okay hey I'm Chris like man how John okay hey I'm Chris like man how John okay hey I'm Chris like man how long have you been going to the church long have you been going to the church long have you been going to the church is a much better question than are you is a much better question than are you is a much better question than are you new right right because you know so I new right right because you know so I new right right because you know so I was like actually this is my first time was like actually this is my first time was like actually this is my first time it's like bro that's awesome man like it's like bro that's awesome man like it's like bro that's awesome man like what you know what what brought you here what you know what what brought you here what you know what what brought you here right and so I started explaining it and right and so I started explaining it and right and so I started explaining it and and then he was offered and then he was offered and then he was offered uh you know a a tour of the building man uh you know a a tour of the building man uh you know a a tour of the building man you wanna you wanna you know see where you wanna you wanna you know see where you wanna you wanna you know see where the magic is made or something like I the magic is made or something like I the magic is made or something like I don't you know anyway it made me laugh don't you know anyway it made me laugh don't you know anyway it made me laugh we went around and just kind of showed we went around and just kind of showed we went around and just kind of showed it to me that's exactly what planned it to me that's exactly what planned it to me that's exactly what planned your visit is right like yeah only your visit is right like yeah only your visit is right like yeah only luckily they had trained people and I luckily they had trained people and I luckily they had trained people and I got there early enough that somebody got there early enough that somebody got there early enough that somebody noticed me but otherwise there's no way noticed me but otherwise there's no way noticed me but otherwise there's no way to have that connection plan your visit to have that connection plan your visit to have that connection plan your visit make sure you have that experience every make sure you have that experience every make sure you have that experience every single time from the beginning with single time from the beginning with single time from the beginning with every single visitor right so

  8. every single visitor right so every single visitor right so and and it's basically this like plan and and it's basically this like plan and and it's basically this like plan your business all it is is giving people your business all it is is giving people your business all it is is giving people the option to basically sign up and make the option to basically sign up and make the option to basically sign up and make an appointment to visit your church so an appointment to visit your church so an appointment to visit your church so that you can assign a friendly person to that you can assign a friendly person to that you can assign a friendly person to meet them at the front door help them meet them at the front door help them meet them at the front door help them get their kids checked into uh kids get their kids checked into uh kids get their kids checked into uh kids church uh give them a tour of the church church uh give them a tour of the church church uh give them a tour of the church if they want to save seeds form and if they want to save seeds form and if they want to save seeds form and Service uh sit with them in service Service uh sit with them in service Service uh sit with them in service right so they don't have that high right so they don't have that high right so they don't have that high school cafeteria uh you know experience school cafeteria uh you know experience school cafeteria uh you know experience and and it just it it really really just and and it just it it really really just and and it just it it really really just helps them to connect with a person like helps them to connect with a person like helps them to connect with a person like whenever I do it I like to you know take whenever I do it I like to you know take whenever I do it I like to you know take them around introduce them to some key them around introduce them to some key them around introduce them to some key families in the church right some key families in the church right some key families in the church right some key leaders right so I introduce them to all leaders right so I introduce them to all leaders right so I introduce them to all the cool people I kind of like Shield the cool people I kind of like Shield the cool people I kind of like Shield them from all the weird people right so them from all the weird people right so them from all the weird people right so just just making sure that they're going just just making sure that they're going just just making sure that they're going to have a great a great time so uh Ben to have a great a great time so uh Ben to have a great a great time so uh Ben you asked about the first time we did you asked about the first time we did you asked about the first time we did this uh in 2017 we decided to do this this uh in 2017 we decided to do this this uh in 2017 we decided to do this for Easter for Easter for Easter um and so I just kind of launched I um and so I just kind of launched I um and so I just kind of launched I launched I I went in and I created a launched I I went in and I created a launched I I went in and I created a page on our website uh right a plan your page on our website uh right a plan your page on our website uh right a plan your visit page just talking about playing visit page just talking about playing visit page just talking about playing your business like hey sign up for plan your business like hey sign up for plan your business like hey sign up for plan your visit and we'll you know meet you your visit and we'll you know meet you your visit and we'll you know meet you at the front door and uh you know save at the front door and uh you know save at the front door and uh you know save seats for you in service and help you seats for you in service and help you seats for you in service and help you get your kids checked in introduce you get your kids checked in introduce you get your kids checked in introduce you to some cool people right like and just to some cool people right like and just to some cool people right like and just kind of list out all the things we would kind of list out all the things we would kind of list out all the things we would do uh and then have like a little you do uh and then have like a little you do uh and then have like a little you know button where they click that or know button where they click that or know button where they click that or whatever and just fill out an email whatever and just fill out an email whatever and just fill out an email phone number you know it went off so phone number you know it went off so phone number you know it went off so what was cool was I went to Katie she what was cool was I went to Katie she what was cool was I went to Katie she was in charge of uh Guest Services said was in charge of uh Guest Services said was in charge of uh Guest Services said okay Katie I'm gonna launch this thing I okay Katie I'm gonna launch this thing I okay Katie I'm gonna launch this thing I don't know if it's gonna work but we're don't know if it's gonna work but we're don't know if it's gonna work but we're gonna give it a shot for Easter she's gonna give it a shot for Easter she's gonna give it a shot for Easter she's like yeah I love it like I was like okay like yeah I love it like I was like okay like yeah I love it like I was like okay just when whenever you get the emails just when whenever you get the emails just when whenever you get the emails that somebody signed up just call them that somebody signed up just call them that somebody signed up just call them uh right and kind of set that up and uh right and kind of set that up and uh right and kind of set that up and then just assign a host for him she's then just assign a host for him she's then just assign a host for him she's like yup no problem I got a whole team

  9. like yup no problem I got a whole team like yup no problem I got a whole team ready to go right because you don't ready to go right because you don't ready to go right because you don't actually have to train anybody that's actually have to train anybody that's actually have to train anybody that's like probably this is probably the like probably this is probably the like probably this is probably the number one mistake that people make when number one mistake that people make when number one mistake that people make when they try playing your visit is they're they try playing your visit is they're they try playing your visit is they're like like like um okay we're gonna here's what we're um okay we're gonna here's what we're um okay we're gonna here's what we're gonna do is we're gonna we're gonna gonna do is we're gonna we're gonna gonna do is we're gonna we're gonna train we're gonna get all of our train we're gonna get all of our train we're gonna get all of our volunteers together and we're gonna volunteers together and we're gonna volunteers together and we're gonna create this brand new ministry and uh create this brand new ministry and uh create this brand new ministry and uh we're gonna do volunteers and we're we're gonna do volunteers and we're we're gonna do volunteers and we're gonna do we're gonna train them over gonna do we're gonna train them over gonna do we're gonna train them over like a month and blah blah right those like a month and blah blah right those like a month and blah blah right those people I'm not kidding I've been I've people I'm not kidding I've been I've people I'm not kidding I've been I've been teaching this since 2017 when we been teaching this since 2017 when we been teaching this since 2017 when we figured it out figured it out figured it out um those churches literally never launch um those churches literally never launch um those churches literally never launch plan your visit the best way to launch plan your visit the best way to launch plan your visit the best way to launch plan your visit is ready fire aim which plan your visit is ready fire aim which plan your visit is ready fire aim which is what we did that's why we watch that is what we did that's why we watch that is what we did that's why we watch that that works best uh way better than that works best uh way better than that works best uh way better than trading people right so yeah but so so trading people right so yeah but so so trading people right so yeah but so so you know so Katie was like yeah great you know so Katie was like yeah great you know so Katie was like yeah great like run the ad I'll handle everybody like run the ad I'll handle everybody like run the ad I'll handle everybody I'm like okay great so we go in there we I'm like okay great so we go in there we I'm like okay great so we go in there we start running uh you know Facebook ads start running uh you know Facebook ads start running uh you know Facebook ads and to plan your visit and it's like and to plan your visit and it's like and to plan your visit and it's like boom we get the first one I'm like this boom we get the first one I'm like this boom we get the first one I'm like this is awesome right and then also it's like is awesome right and then also it's like is awesome right and then also it's like oh we got five I'm like whoa it's crazy oh we got five I'm like whoa it's crazy oh we got five I'm like whoa it's crazy 13. good gracious all right like 25 and 13. good gracious all right like 25 and 13. good gracious all right like 25 and all of a sudden it was just like it just all of a sudden it was just like it just all of a sudden it was just like it just took off I was like right like now right took off I was like right like now right took off I was like right like now right so like you know people come to church so like you know people come to church so like you know people come to church on Eastern that kind of stuff but it on Eastern that kind of stuff but it on Eastern that kind of stuff but it just it exploded bro so Katie comes like just it exploded bro so Katie comes like just it exploded bro so Katie comes like running into my into my office like a running into my into my office like a running into my into my office like a week before Easter and I was like oh my week before Easter and I was like oh my week before Easter and I was like oh my gosh like turn the ads off like a long gosh like turn the ads off like a long gosh like turn the ads off like a long time ago like we have all these people time ago like we have all these people time ago like we have all these people signing up for plan your visits uh like signing up for plan your visits uh like signing up for plan your visits uh like I I can't I can't host all of them we're I I can't I can't host all of them we're I I can't I can't host all of them we're overwhelmed this is crazy I can't overwhelmed this is crazy I can't overwhelmed this is crazy I can't believe this is working uh you know and believe this is working uh you know and believe this is working uh you know and so it was it was not so like we had to so it was it was not so like we had to so it was it was not so like we had to you know I'm like oh shoot like you know you know I'm like oh shoot like you know you know I'm like oh shoot like you know we were we were on uh we only had them we were we were on uh we only had them we were we were on uh we only had them running for maybe a week or something at

  10. running for maybe a week or something at running for maybe a week or something at that point and we were on Pace to have that point and we were on Pace to have that point and we were on Pace to have over 100 plan your visits that very over 100 plan your visits that very over 100 plan your visits that very first uh Sunday so we definitely didn't first uh Sunday so we definitely didn't first uh Sunday so we definitely didn't wow for that so um so it was you know it wow for that so um so it was you know it wow for that so um so it was you know it was pretty sweet thing and then you know was pretty sweet thing and then you know was pretty sweet thing and then you know I started looking at the numbers of like I started looking at the numbers of like I started looking at the numbers of like how many people have been responding how many people have been responding how many people have been responding through right and uh and so because not through right and uh and so because not through right and uh and so because not every single person that clicks through every single person that clicks through every single person that clicks through and goes to your plan your visit page is and goes to your plan your visit page is and goes to your plan your visit page is gonna sign up for plan your visit right gonna sign up for plan your visit right gonna sign up for plan your visit right yeah it's usually about every two or 100 yeah it's usually about every two or 100 yeah it's usually about every two or 100 or 300 clicks to do that right because or 300 clicks to do that right because or 300 clicks to do that right because you got plenty of people who you got plenty of people who you got plenty of people who accidentally click on your ad or you accidentally click on your ad or you accidentally click on your ad or you know whatever it is you know but a lot know whatever it is you know but a lot know whatever it is you know but a lot of people just want to go there and of people just want to go there and of people just want to go there and check it out check it out check it out um not every single person you know um not every single person you know um not every single person you know invites can come to church but for every invites can come to church but for every invites can come to church but for every two or three hundred clicks I started two or three hundred clicks I started two or three hundred clicks I started looking at it I was like dude we've had looking at it I was like dude we've had looking at it I was like dude we've had over 10 000 clicks to that plan your over 10 000 clicks to that plan your over 10 000 clicks to that plan your visit page like I wow and this is crazy visit page like I wow and this is crazy visit page like I wow and this is crazy so I started going to like our kids so I started going to like our kids so I started going to like our kids people and I was like all right hey I people and I was like all right hey I people and I was like all right hey I think we're gonna have a fairly large think we're gonna have a fairly large think we're gonna have a fairly large amount of people here on Sunday so like amount of people here on Sunday so like amount of people here on Sunday so like I wouldn't just have the check-in I wouldn't just have the check-in I wouldn't just have the check-in station right there for the kids I would station right there for the kids I would station right there for the kids I would actually have like if you guys could do actually have like if you guys could do actually have like if you guys could do like mobile iPads or something like that like mobile iPads or something like that like mobile iPads or something like that just you can go down the line and check just you can go down the line and check just you can go down the line and check people in and I remember they're like people in and I remember they're like people in and I remember they're like okay okay okay um stick to the marketing and music um stick to the marketing and music um stick to the marketing and music stuff stuff stuff um we'll handle the kids check-in stuff um we'll handle the kids check-in stuff um we'll handle the kids check-in stuff like that's our area and I was like like that's our area and I was like like that's our area and I was like listen I I get it and normally I listen I I get it and normally I listen I I get it and normally I wouldn't say anything but I'm telling wouldn't say anything but I'm telling wouldn't say anything but I'm telling you guys based on what I'm seeing I you guys based on what I'm seeing I you guys based on what I'm seeing I think it's gonna be big and they're like think it's gonna be big and they're like think it's gonna be big and they're like okay yeah we've we've got a good plan so okay yeah we've we've got a good plan so okay yeah we've we've got a good plan so like all right uh so fast forward to like all right uh so fast forward to like all right uh so fast forward to Sunday morning Easter Sunday 2017 we Sunday morning Easter Sunday 2017 we Sunday morning Easter Sunday 2017 we show up and immediately we max out our show up and immediately we max out our show up and immediately we max out our main sanctuary right uh which see it's main sanctuary right uh which see it's main sanctuary right uh which see it's like 2 000 people or something like that like 2 000 people or something like that like 2 000 people or something like that right so we max out like the the main right so we max out like the the main right so we max out like the the main sanctuary uh then we start seeing people

  11. sanctuary uh then we start seeing people sanctuary uh then we start seeing people in the Overflow Sanctuary then we max in the Overflow Sanctuary then we max in the Overflow Sanctuary then we max out the Overflow sanctuary and then we out the Overflow sanctuary and then we out the Overflow sanctuary and then we get word that our our kids building is get word that our our kids building is get word that our our kids building is three times over the legal capacity of three times over the legal capacity of three times over the legal capacity of what the fire marshal has in the what the fire marshal has in the what the fire marshal has in the building right so there's like kids like building right so there's like kids like building right so there's like kids like spilling out the building into the spilling out the building into the spilling out the building into the street right street right street right it was it was it was it was it was it was it was so they're like we gotta shut it was so they're like we gotta shut it was so they're like we gotta shut down kids check-in like we've got too down kids check-in like we've got too down kids check-in like we've got too many kids in the building and so I'm many kids in the building and so I'm many kids in the building and so I'm like looking around like okay we don't like looking around like okay we don't like looking around like okay we don't have room for people in our main have room for people in our main have room for people in our main sanctuary we don't have room for people sanctuary we don't have room for people sanctuary we don't have room for people in our overflow sanctuary and by the way in our overflow sanctuary and by the way in our overflow sanctuary and by the way you also can't check your kids in the you also can't check your kids in the you also can't check your kids in the kids church because we're illegally kids church because we're illegally kids church because we're illegally violating fire codes over there we have violating fire codes over there we have violating fire codes over there we have too many kids in the building right so too many kids in the building right so too many kids in the building right so the the best part at least for me the the best part at least for me the the best part at least for me because I felt Vindicated is because I felt Vindicated is because I felt Vindicated is there's this long line from the kids there's this long line from the kids there's this long line from the kids check-in Booth because they didn't do check-in Booth because they didn't do check-in Booth because they didn't do the iPad thing and it went all the way the iPad thing and it went all the way the iPad thing and it went all the way through our lobby all the way down the through our lobby all the way down the through our lobby all the way down the hallway and then Spilled Out into like hallway and then Spilled Out into like hallway and then Spilled Out into like went down the uh the parking lot of kids went down the uh the parking lot of kids went down the uh the parking lot of kids just waiting or parents waiting in line just waiting or parents waiting in line just waiting or parents waiting in line trying to check in their kids the kids trying to check in their kids the kids trying to check in their kids the kids church and then we have to tell all church and then we have to tell all church and then we have to tell all those people we're so sorry we don't those people we're so sorry we don't those people we're so sorry we don't have any seats left and we don't have have any seats left and we don't have have any seats left and we don't have room for your kids and our kids shirts room for your kids and our kids shirts room for your kids and our kids shirts so like legit we had over a thousand so like legit we had over a thousand so like legit we had over a thousand people who were stuck outside the church people who were stuck outside the church people who were stuck outside the church on Easter Sunday who couldn't get a seat on Easter Sunday who couldn't get a seat on Easter Sunday who couldn't get a seat and couldn't check their kids into kids and couldn't check their kids into kids and couldn't check their kids into kids church right [Music] [Music] tapped into something right like yeah tapped into something right like yeah tapped into something right like yeah yeah like all the all the all the kids yeah like all the all the all the kids yeah like all the all the all the kids workers did come up to me on Sunday uh I workers did come up to me on Sunday uh I workers did come up to me on Sunday uh I was leading worship right so I didn't was leading worship right so I didn't was leading worship right so I didn't have to deal with that mess so I came have to deal with that mess so I came have to deal with that mess so I came out there I'm like sipping coffee in the out there I'm like sipping coffee in the out there I'm like sipping coffee in the lobby like just like looking around like lobby like just like looking around like lobby like just like looking around like well this is a lot of chaos okay

  12. well this is a lot of chaos okay well this is a lot of chaos okay great job but we hate you uh yeah yeah great job but we hate you uh yeah yeah great job but we hate you uh yeah yeah this is all your fault yeah she's got a this is all your fault yeah she's got a this is all your fault yeah she's got a couple of iPads huh no big deal right couple of iPads huh no big deal right couple of iPads huh no big deal right yeah yeah you didn't listen to me yeah yeah you didn't listen to me yeah yeah you didn't listen to me so it was so it was so it was it was you know that was like after you it was you know that was like after you it was you know that was like after you know after that right so like okay know after that right so like okay know after that right so like okay anybody can get a bunch of people to anybody can get a bunch of people to anybody can get a bunch of people to come out for Easter but it's like will come out for Easter but it's like will come out for Easter but it's like will this work just for a regular Sunday like this work just for a regular Sunday like this work just for a regular Sunday like just hey we're having church this Sunday just hey we're having church this Sunday just hey we're having church this Sunday nothing special no event right and nothing special no event right and nothing special no event right and that's when so it just you know kept that's when so it just you know kept that's when so it just you know kept that planar visit at a you know changed that planar visit at a you know changed that planar visit at a you know changed it from Easter Sunday to just this it from Easter Sunday to just this it from Easter Sunday to just this Sunday uh and then uh you know kept kept Sunday uh and then uh you know kept kept Sunday uh and then uh you know kept kept that plan your visit page uh ran a that plan your visit page uh ran a that plan your visit page uh ran a couple of Facebook ads like hey we want couple of Facebook ads like hey we want couple of Facebook ads like hey we want to visit we want to invite you to visit to visit we want to invite you to visit to visit we want to invite you to visit gun Church on this Sunday gun Church on this Sunday gun Church on this Sunday and uh and then all of a sudden like it and uh and then all of a sudden like it and uh and then all of a sudden like it was like every week was like five plan was like every week was like five plan was like every week was like five plan your visits ten plan your visits 15 your visits ten plan your visits 15 your visits ten plan your visits 15 planers it just kept going up right and planers it just kept going up right and planers it just kept going up right and so like so obviously uh Easter is in so like so obviously uh Easter is in so like so obviously uh Easter is in April right in may we increased our April right in may we increased our April right in may we increased our first time visitors year over year first time visitors year over year first time visitors year over year because we track all that because we track all that because we track all that we increased our first time visitors in we increased our first time visitors in we increased our first time visitors in May by 42 uh in June by 60 in July by 87 May by 42 uh in June by 60 in July by 87 May by 42 uh in June by 60 in July by 87 and then in August by 113 uh and then and then in August by 113 uh and then and then in August by 113 uh and then like I said we grew the church over the like I said we grew the church over the like I said we grew the church over the summer and our next steps class which is summer and our next steps class which is summer and our next steps class which is like our you know what what uh what we like our you know what what uh what we like our you know what what uh what we have for church membership when people have for church membership when people have for church membership when people join the church our next steps class join the church our next steps class join the church our next steps class just exploded an eight out of 10 people just exploded an eight out of 10 people just exploded an eight out of 10 people that were coming through plan your visit that were coming through plan your visit that were coming through plan your visit we're joining our church within three we're joining our church within three we're joining our church within three weeks so uh wow it's been it's it's been weeks so uh wow it's been it's it's been weeks so uh wow it's been it's it's been a wild ride it's been a lot of fun man a wild ride it's been a lot of fun man a wild ride it's been a lot of fun man that's awesome well okay so I wanna I that's awesome well okay so I wanna I that's awesome well okay so I wanna I wanna just summarize this for some that wanna just summarize this for some that wanna just summarize this for some that are listening like the reason why a are listening like the reason why a are listening like the reason why a pastor should care about playing your

  13. pastor should care about playing your pastor should care about playing your visit is if they're interested in visit is if they're interested in visit is if they're interested in getting more visitors on a weekend I getting more visitors on a weekend I getting more visitors on a weekend I mean that's one one major reason another mean that's one one major reason another mean that's one one major reason another one is to help people get plugged in one is to help people get plugged in one is to help people get plugged in quicker and again going back to that quicker and again going back to that quicker and again going back to that idea of just starting the assimilation idea of just starting the assimilation idea of just starting the assimilation process even before they come on a process even before they come on a process even before they come on a Sunday uh you know where you've made Sunday uh you know where you've made Sunday uh you know where you've made that connection and that's really the that connection and that's really the that connection and that's really the glue that's going to keep them connected glue that's going to keep them connected glue that's going to keep them connected is that they know people it's no longer is that they know people it's no longer is that they know people it's no longer awkward it's no longer and and taking awkward it's no longer and and taking awkward it's no longer and and taking that out of their experience when they that out of their experience when they that out of their experience when they first get there I think has a mass it first get there I think has a mass it first get there I think has a mass it has to have a massive impact on their has to have a massive impact on their has to have a massive impact on their perception and their overall experience perception and their overall experience perception and their overall experience of the church if you go to the church of the church if you go to the church of the church if you go to the church for the first time and you're having to for the first time and you're having to for the first time and you're having to Wade through that experience of of Wade through that experience of of Wade through that experience of of getting to know people and starting getting to know people and starting getting to know people and starting conversations things like that versus if conversations things like that versus if conversations things like that versus if you've already done that and then now you've already done that and then now you've already done that and then now you walk into a situation situation you walk into a situation situation you walk into a situation situation where that it's it's like you don't even where that it's it's like you don't even where that it's it's like you don't even have to deal with it I think for me have to deal with it I think for me have to deal with it I think for me being somewhat more introverted that being somewhat more introverted that being somewhat more introverted that would make the experience total like so would make the experience total like so would make the experience total like so much better much better much better um and and I think they walk away with a um and and I think they walk away with a um and and I think they walk away with a better perception of the church more better perception of the church more better perception of the church more likely to come back obviously uh it's likely to come back obviously uh it's likely to come back obviously uh it's easier for them to assimilate into the easier for them to assimilate into the easier for them to assimilate into the church so for those listening you know church so for those listening you know church so for those listening you know the reason they should care about plan the reason they should care about plan the reason they should care about plan your visit is like if they want to see your visit is like if they want to see your visit is like if they want to see more visitors on a weekend and want them more visitors on a weekend and want them more visitors on a weekend and want them to get plugged in and ultimate to get plugged in and ultimate to get plugged in and ultimate ultimately you know the longevity of ultimately you know the longevity of ultimately you know the longevity of really helping make disciples you know really helping make disciples you know really helping make disciples you know that's what we're done about just a big that's what we're done about just a big that's what we're done about just a big event you know although that's cool and event you know although that's cool and event you know although that's cool and amazing we want to see that more amazing we want to see that more amazing we want to see that more visitors but it's really about the visitors but it's really about the visitors but it's really about the lasting impact the the uh church leaders lasting impact the the uh church leaders lasting impact the the uh church leaders can have by plugging more people in to

  14. can have by plugging more people in to can have by plugging more people in to the life of the church so um did I the life of the church so um did I the life of the church so um did I summarize that okay I mean is that why summarize that okay I mean is that why summarize that okay I mean is that why nailed it awesome awesome okay so so nailed it awesome awesome okay so so nailed it awesome awesome okay so so maybe let's get a little bit more into maybe let's get a little bit more into maybe let's get a little bit more into some of the the details of like what some of the the details of like what some of the the details of like what what are the things the components of what are the things the components of what are the things the components of plan your visit I mean you know maybe plan your visit I mean you know maybe plan your visit I mean you know maybe still keep it somewhat high level but still keep it somewhat high level but still keep it somewhat high level but like how does this actually work if like how does this actually work if like how does this actually work if someone has no idea necessarily what you someone has no idea necessarily what you someone has no idea necessarily what you know planning their visit is I mean you know planning their visit is I mean you know planning their visit is I mean you hit the hit on it a little bit just like hit the hit on it a little bit just like hit the hit on it a little bit just like uh but like I I could even share um uh but like I I could even share um uh but like I I could even share um belief Church you know that kind of belief Church you know that kind of belief Church you know that kind of thing but wherever you want to start thing but wherever you want to start thing but wherever you want to start like in terms of mindset tools like in terms of mindset tools like in terms of mindset tools volunteers like what are the big volunteers like what are the big volunteers like what are the big components of playing your visit yeah so components of playing your visit yeah so components of playing your visit yeah so I would say Let's uh why don't I I'll I would say Let's uh why don't I I'll I would say Let's uh why don't I I'll kind of walk through what what the kind of walk through what what the kind of walk through what what the components are kind of the four main components are kind of the four main components are kind of the four main pieces uh and then and then afterwards pieces uh and then and then afterwards pieces uh and then and then afterwards we'll show them an example you can pull we'll show them an example you can pull we'll show them an example you can pull up belief church and Okay cool so up belief church and Okay cool so up belief church and Okay cool so um it really it's it's it's pretty um it really it's it's it's pretty um it really it's it's it's pretty simple right the the framework uh the simple right the the framework uh the simple right the the framework uh the the plan your visit framework is is the plan your visit framework is is the plan your visit framework is is basically has has four parts right the basically has has four parts right the basically has has four parts right the first one is traffic you have to figure first one is traffic you have to figure first one is traffic you have to figure out how to get people out how to get people out how to get people um from the interwebs to your website um from the interwebs to your website um from the interwebs to your website right so so you can do that with right so so you can do that with right so so you can do that with Facebook ads Instagram ads uh YouTube Facebook ads Instagram ads uh YouTube Facebook ads Instagram ads uh YouTube videos Google ads right like search videos Google ads right like search videos Google ads right like search engine optimization whatever you want to engine optimization whatever you want to engine optimization whatever you want to but you have to find a traffic Source but you have to find a traffic Source but you have to find a traffic Source you have to get people from the internet you have to get people from the internet you have to get people from the internet uh to your church website my personal uh to your church website my personal uh to your church website my personal favorite way to do that is with Facebook favorite way to do that is with Facebook favorite way to do that is with Facebook ads uh I've just I've I've been doing ads uh I've just I've I've been doing ads uh I've just I've I've been doing that for years I've seen really really that for years I've seen really really that for years I've seen really really good good good um um um a really good um

  15. a really good um a really good um results I couldn't think of the word results I couldn't think of the word results I couldn't think of the word yeah for those that are watching those yeah for those that are watching those yeah for those that are watching those are watching we actually when I was a are watching we actually when I was a are watching we actually when I was a communications director at a church I communications director at a church I communications director at a church I was uh previously at uh we hired Chris was uh previously at uh we hired Chris was uh previously at uh we hired Chris to help us with all of us so that's to help us with all of us so that's to help us with all of us so that's actually where Chris and I uh first got actually where Chris and I uh first got actually where Chris and I uh first got to know each other is is uh through that to know each other is is uh through that to know each other is is uh through that process and it was amazing we we saw process and it was amazing we we saw process and it was amazing we we saw lots of great results so uh and we used lots of great results so uh and we used lots of great results so uh and we used those Facebook ads to drive that traffic those Facebook ads to drive that traffic those Facebook ads to drive that traffic to our website yep and to our website yep and to our website yep and I remember if I if I were right and I I remember if I if I were right and I I remember if I if I were right and I mean that was a was like 15 or 1600 in that in that six was like 15 or 1600 in that in that six months I think yeah yeah we definitely months I think yeah yeah we definitely months I think yeah yeah we definitely yeah we definitely experienced growth yeah we definitely experienced growth yeah we definitely experienced growth and um yeah it was it was amazing I mean and um yeah it was it was amazing I mean and um yeah it was it was amazing I mean really I I it was our lead pastor had really I I it was our lead pastor had really I I it was our lead pastor had found you through found you through found you through um some uh another Pastor who you were um some uh another Pastor who you were um some uh another Pastor who you were helping them as well and so it was kind helping them as well and so it was kind helping them as well and so it was kind of word of mouth how we got a hold of of word of mouth how we got a hold of of word of mouth how we got a hold of you and uh but yeah Facebook ads were you and uh but yeah Facebook ads were you and uh but yeah Facebook ads were incredible part of of reaching our incredible part of of reaching our incredible part of of reaching our community it was really cool because we community it was really cool because we community it was really cool because we had we had recently moved into a new had we had recently moved into a new had we had recently moved into a new building so we had more space so now it building so we had more space so now it building so we had more space so now it was like okay yeah so we're like okay we was like okay yeah so we're like okay we was like okay yeah so we're like okay we got the space now we need to turn on the got the space now we need to turn on the got the space now we need to turn on the traffic to get people here because we traffic to get people here because we traffic to get people here because we actually have room to grow and so that actually have room to grow and so that actually have room to grow and so that was really cool it's like perfect timing was really cool it's like perfect timing was really cool it's like perfect timing for us yeah yeah I I think it's for us yeah yeah I I think it's for us yeah yeah I I think it's um dude yeah man those those are fun um dude yeah man those those are fun um dude yeah man those those are fun times bro uh yeah so yeah that was uh times bro uh yeah so yeah that was uh times bro uh yeah so yeah that was uh and and that that's exactly it right and and that that's exactly it right and and that that's exactly it right like if you've got space you've got the like if you've got space you've got the like if you've got space you've got the room to grow room to grow room to grow um you know using the planar Visa

  16. um you know using the planar Visa um you know using the planar Visa framework is uh I I think it's it's framework is uh I I think it's it's framework is uh I I think it's it's something that at least consider it's something that at least consider it's something that at least consider it's worked really really well for me worked really really well for me worked really really well for me um but you know it's uh you can you can um but you know it's uh you can you can um but you know it's uh you can you can use any type of of traffic Source uh use any type of of traffic Source uh use any type of of traffic Source uh Facebook ads are great uh because Facebook ads are great uh because Facebook ads are great uh because they're they're highly targetable uh they're they're highly targetable uh they're they're highly targetable uh Google ads are great especially like the Google ads are great especially like the Google ads are great especially like the the Google Grant right where Google give the Google Grant right where Google give the Google Grant right where Google give you ten thousand dollars in free you ten thousand dollars in free you ten thousand dollars in free um and free Google ads every single um and free Google ads every single um and free Google ads every single month right so you can Target people use month right so you can Target people use month right so you can Target people use Google's money to pay for it send them Google's money to pay for it send them Google's money to pay for it send them to your website where people can sign up to your website where people can sign up to your website where people can sign up for plan your visit uh excuse me so for plan your visit uh excuse me so for plan your visit uh excuse me so that's the first thing right you need that's the first thing right you need that's the first thing right you need you need a traffic Source like Facebook you need a traffic Source like Facebook you need a traffic Source like Facebook ads or Google ads all right the people ads or Google ads all right the people ads or Google ads all right the people click on that then they go to uh step click on that then they go to uh step click on that then they go to uh step two is a plan your visit uh landing page two is a plan your visit uh landing page two is a plan your visit uh landing page right so this is not your home page it's right so this is not your home page it's right so this is not your home page it's not like your contact page it's not even not like your contact page it's not even not like your contact page it's not even your new here page this is a a separate your new here page this is a a separate your new here page this is a a separate page like a plan your visit page that page like a plan your visit page that page like a plan your visit page that only talks about plan your visit and only talks about plan your visit and only talks about plan your visit and there's only one call to action right so there's only one call to action right so there's only one call to action right so call to action is like a button for them call to action is like a button for them call to action is like a button for them to click on there should not be any to click on there should not be any to click on there should not be any extra buttons there's no like extra buttons there's no like extra buttons there's no like pre-register your kids or check out our pre-register your kids or check out our pre-register your kids or check out our small groups or here's the set list for small groups or here's the set list for small groups or here's the set list for Sunday right there's just one button and Sunday right there's just one button and Sunday right there's just one button and you should have it on there multiple you should have it on there multiple you should have it on there multiple times it should just be a plan your times it should just be a plan your times it should just be a plan your visit now button right so uh they you visit now button right so uh they you visit now button right so uh they you know click on Facebook at a Google ad know click on Facebook at a Google ad know click on Facebook at a Google ad they go to your plan your visit page it they go to your plan your visit page it they go to your plan your visit page it explains what plan your visit is and explains what plan your visit is and explains what plan your visit is and then has a button where they can click then has a button where they can click then has a button where they can click that and actually sign up for uh for that and actually sign up for uh for that and actually sign up for uh for plan your visit all right um and then plan your visit all right um and then plan your visit all right um and then the uh the the third part of that is the the uh the the third part of that is the the uh the the third part of that is the hosted visit itself right where when hosted visit itself right where when hosted visit itself right where when they show up there's an actual person they show up there's an actual person they show up there's an actual person who's waiting for them at the front door who's waiting for them at the front door who's waiting for them at the front door right like if they if they sign up for right like if they if they sign up for right like if they if they sign up for this whatever and then like then they this whatever and then like then they this whatever and then like then they don't hear from anybody and nobody's

  17. don't hear from anybody and nobody's don't hear from anybody and nobody's there on Sunday like I guess I just walk there on Sunday like I guess I just walk there on Sunday like I guess I just walk in right like it doesn't work yeah the in right like it doesn't work yeah the in right like it doesn't work yeah the whole part of it is the fact that whole part of it is the fact that whole part of it is the fact that there's a friendly person waiting for there's a friendly person waiting for there's a friendly person waiting for him at the front door to kind of show him at the front door to kind of show him at the front door to kind of show them around right and so right so that them around right and so right so that them around right and so right so that part's that part's really uh important part's that part's really uh important part's that part's really uh important and then the final part is having an and then the final part is having an and then the final part is having an extended follow-up system to plug them extended follow-up system to plug them extended follow-up system to plug them into right so you want uh you want like into right so you want uh you want like into right so you want uh you want like a Facebook ad that goes to a plan your a Facebook ad that goes to a plan your a Facebook ad that goes to a plan your visit landing page right and then the visit landing page right and then the visit landing page right and then the hosted visit on Sunday and then plug hosted visit on Sunday and then plug hosted visit on Sunday and then plug them into a follow-up system afterwards them into a follow-up system afterwards them into a follow-up system afterwards you know get them to come back again and you know get them to come back again and you know get them to come back again and so so so um you want to pull up belief church we um you want to pull up belief church we um you want to pull up belief church we kind of walk through like an example kind of walk through like an example kind of walk through like an example plan your visit landing page uh might plan your visit landing page uh might plan your visit landing page uh might look like yeah let's let's do it I'll look like yeah let's let's do it I'll look like yeah let's let's do it I'll share my entire screen here and then share my entire screen here and then share my entire screen here and then okay do you see believe Church Chris okay do you see believe Church Chris okay do you see believe Church Chris yeah that's okay yeah that's okay yeah that's okay so so this is the plan your visit page so so this is the plan your visit page so so this is the plan your visit page that we have here and this is try going that we have here and this is try going that we have here and this is try going to believechurch.com visit I think this to believechurch.com visit I think this to believechurch.com visit I think this is the okay this is our page I mean okay I think that's the one okay yes perfect I think that's the one okay yes perfect perfect so there's a couple of perfect so there's a couple of perfect so there's a couple of differences from this like for you know differences from this like for you know differences from this like for you know the first thing you notice like on the the first thing you notice like on the the first thing you notice like on the last page there was like a header and last page there was like a header and last page there was like a header and stuff like that right on this one stuff like that right on this one stuff like that right on this one there's no header it gets right into it there's no header it gets right into it there's no header it gets right into it uh which is really important when you're uh which is really important when you're uh which is really important when you're trying to invite somebody you know trying to invite somebody you know trying to invite somebody you know basically from the internet right like basically from the internet right like basically from the internet right like they live within driving distance of they live within driving distance of they live within driving distance of your community but you kind of want to your community but you kind of want to your community but you kind of want to dive straight into it and so above the dive straight into it and so above the dive straight into it and so above the fold which is before you have to scroll fold which is before you have to scroll fold which is before you have to scroll is everything that you see there so the is everything that you see there so the is everything that you see there so the first thing that like we did this first thing that like we did this first thing that like we did this actually in an actual video that we made actually in an actual video that we made actually in an actual video that we made uh for uh four guns that's my friend uh uh for uh four guns that's my friend uh uh for uh four guns that's my friend uh Katie so I was telling you guys uh Katie

  18. Katie so I was telling you guys uh Katie Katie so I was telling you guys uh Katie who came running in my office like oh my who came running in my office like oh my who came running in my office like oh my gosh right she ended up being like our gosh right she ended up being like our gosh right she ended up being like our our plan your visit coordinator our plan your visit coordinator our plan your visit coordinator um and uh so we made like a quick video um and uh so we made like a quick video um and uh so we made like a quick video we don't need to watch the whole thing we don't need to watch the whole thing we don't need to watch the whole thing but it's basically the reason we started but it's basically the reason we started but it's basically the reason we started outside is we're like hey so we have outside is we're like hey so we have outside is we're like hey so we have those big red guts letters out there those big red guts letters out there those big red guts letters out there that's where our visitor parking is that's where our visitor parking is that's where our visitor parking is right so it's just her being like hey right so it's just her being like hey right so it's just her being like hey what's up you know man we want you to what's up you know man we want you to what's up you know man we want you to come to uh to plan your visit to guts on come to uh to plan your visit to guts on come to uh to plan your visit to guts on this Sunday you're actually when you get this Sunday you're actually when you get this Sunday you're actually when you get here you're gonna park right out here uh here you're gonna park right out here uh here you're gonna park right out here uh beneath the big red guts letters uh beneath the big red guts letters uh beneath the big red guts letters uh they're gonna walk in through these they're gonna walk in through these they're gonna walk in through these doors so like come on let's head inside doors so like come on let's head inside doors so like come on let's head inside and then she walks in the doors and we and then she walks in the doors and we and then she walks in the doors and we followed her all the way through there followed her all the way through there followed her all the way through there and kind of like did one of those things and kind of like did one of those things and kind of like did one of those things where it kind of speeds up the video where it kind of speeds up the video where it kind of speeds up the video just because we wanted people to see just because we wanted people to see just because we wanted people to see what it looks like from the time they what it looks like from the time they what it looks like from the time they pull into the parking lot to the time pull into the parking lot to the time pull into the parking lot to the time they like come through the doors with they like come through the doors with they like come through the doors with some friendly people walk through the some friendly people walk through the some friendly people walk through the hallway and get into the lobby right hallway and get into the lobby right hallway and get into the lobby right show them like the coffee bar and then show them like the coffee bar and then show them like the coffee bar and then we actually just spliced in like some we actually just spliced in like some we actually just spliced in like some footage of the uh like kid services and footage of the uh like kid services and footage of the uh like kid services and that kind of stuff uh so if you guys that kind of stuff uh so if you guys that kind of stuff uh so if you guys want to see it you can always go to want to see it you can always go to want to see it you can always go to believeshirts.com visit you can watch believeshirts.com visit you can watch believeshirts.com visit you can watch that video that video that video um and it kind of shows uh something um and it kind of shows uh something um and it kind of shows uh something that's about a minute and a half long that's about a minute and a half long that's about a minute and a half long but you can do that or you can literally but you can do that or you can literally but you can do that or you can literally just make a selfie video where you're just make a selfie video where you're just make a selfie video where you're just welcoming the church and kind of just welcoming the church and kind of just welcoming the church and kind of explaining what plan your visit is but explaining what plan your visit is but explaining what plan your visit is but we wanted to not only tell them but we wanted to not only tell them but we wanted to not only tell them but actually show them so we we did that actually show them so we we did that actually show them so we we did that video video video um and then I specifically wrote like um and then I specifically wrote like um and then I specifically wrote like will you come to church with me this will you come to church with me this will you come to church with me this Sunday on purpose because I wanted it to Sunday on purpose because I wanted it to Sunday on purpose because I wanted it to feel like a personal invite uh right feel like a personal invite uh right feel like a personal invite uh right from Katie and not just like uh you know from Katie and not just like uh you know from Katie and not just like uh you know a kind of a a corporate invite right a kind of a a corporate invite right a kind of a a corporate invite right that does right that does right that does right so yeah that's good yeah and then if you so yeah that's good yeah and then if you so yeah that's good yeah and then if you want to scroll down with the show like want to scroll down with the show like want to scroll down with the show like so you know 42 of website visitors are so you know 42 of website visitors are so you know 42 of website visitors are on there looking for location and

  19. on there looking for location and on there looking for location and service times to put the service time uh service times to put the service time uh service times to put the service time uh up there and then right it's just hey up there and then right it's just hey up there and then right it's just hey first time I believe Sheriff still want first time I believe Sheriff still want first time I believe Sheriff still want to go alone uh or maybe you've been a to go alone uh or maybe you've been a to go alone uh or maybe you've been a few times you'd like to meet Pastor John few times you'd like to meet Pastor John few times you'd like to meet Pastor John and Heather take a tour of the building and Heather take a tour of the building and Heather take a tour of the building and meet some new people all right plan and meet some new people all right plan and meet some new people all right plan your visit now we'll reserve a parking your visit now we'll reserve a parking your visit now we'll reserve a parking spot for you meet you at the front door spot for you meet you at the front door spot for you meet you at the front door introduce you to some great people introduce you to some great people introduce you to some great people helping get your kids checked in give helping get your kids checked in give helping get your kids checked in give you a tour of the church save you a seat you a tour of the church save you a seat you a tour of the church save you a seat in service and make sure that you meet in service and make sure that you meet in service and make sure that you meet Pastor John now that last one is really Pastor John now that last one is really Pastor John now that last one is really really important uh I I put it on really important uh I I put it on really important uh I I put it on there's two reasons that that one's on there's two reasons that that one's on there's two reasons that that one's on there number one there number one there number one um is that uh 80 oh gosh I'm probably um is that uh 80 oh gosh I'm probably um is that uh 80 oh gosh I'm probably I'm probably gonna forget this it's like I'm probably gonna forget this it's like I'm probably gonna forget this it's like 82 right let's just say 80 uh but it's 82 right let's just say 80 uh but it's 82 right let's just say 80 uh but it's in the 80s somewhere 80 of people who in the 80s somewhere 80 of people who in the 80s somewhere 80 of people who meet the pastor on the first visit will meet the pastor on the first visit will meet the pastor on the first visit will come back for a second visit come back for a second visit come back for a second visit right wow like like 80 uh of people who right wow like like 80 uh of people who right wow like like 80 uh of people who who meet the past of the first visit who meet the past of the first visit who meet the past of the first visit will come back for a second visit so one will come back for a second visit so one will come back for a second visit so one of the things that you have to do is of the things that you have to do is of the things that you have to do is just make sure that all of your new just make sure that all of your new just make sure that all of your new visitors meet the pastor while they're visitors meet the pastor while they're visitors meet the pastor while they're there so this is why like and so I you there so this is why like and so I you there so this is why like and so I you know we would tell all of our people know we would tell all of our people know we would tell all of our people um like our plan your visit team is just um like our plan your visit team is just um like our plan your visit team is just like hey no matter what happens right like hey no matter what happens right like hey no matter what happens right like even if the whole thing's a train like even if the whole thing's a train like even if the whole thing's a train wreck just make sure that they meet wreck just make sure that they meet wreck just make sure that they meet Pastor Bill and it's all good right like Pastor Bill and it's all good right like Pastor Bill and it's all good right like 80 of those people will come back again 80 of those people will come back again 80 of those people will come back again for a second visit for a second visit for a second visit um the other reason that I made it the um the other reason that I made it the um the other reason that I made it the last one is because whenever people are last one is because whenever people are last one is because whenever people are reading a list they tend to only reading a list they tend to only reading a list they tend to only remember the last thing uh right the way remember the last thing uh right the way remember the last thing uh right the way our brains work you're gonna you see all our brains work you're gonna you see all our brains work you're gonna you see all that different stuff and you remember that different stuff and you remember that different stuff and you remember the last thing that's the one that the last thing that's the one that the last thing that's the one that sticks with you right so if you're down sticks with you right so if you're down sticks with you right so if you're down when I was planning your business when I was planning your business when I was planning your business a person wait for me and stuff and like

  20. a person wait for me and stuff and like a person wait for me and stuff and like I get to meet the past so yeah right I get to meet the past so yeah right I get to meet the past so yeah right like they'll just remember that last one like they'll just remember that last one like they'll just remember that last one yeah yeah and most people want to meet yeah yeah and most people want to meet yeah yeah and most people want to meet the pastor right so the pastor right so the pastor right so um right right and then uh so we have um right right and then uh so we have um right right and then uh so we have the plan your visit now button and then the plan your visit now button and then the plan your visit now button and then we just kind of scroll through the rest we just kind of scroll through the rest we just kind of scroll through the rest like kind of quick whatever you can see like kind of quick whatever you can see like kind of quick whatever you can see like so service times location uh right like so service times location uh right like so service times location uh right find your people discover your purpose find your people discover your purpose find your people discover your purpose plan your visit uh just kind of talking plan your visit uh just kind of talking plan your visit uh just kind of talking about about about um why people might want to visit uh and um why people might want to visit uh and um why people might want to visit uh and then have another video uh from Katie then have another video uh from Katie then have another video uh from Katie just inviting people out uh right hey just inviting people out uh right hey just inviting people out uh right hey here's what happens when you plan your here's what happens when you plan your here's what happens when you plan your visit and again we said the same thing visit and again we said the same thing visit and again we said the same thing again I did that on purpose because I again I did that on purpose because I again I did that on purpose because I know that people don't when they're on know that people don't when they're on know that people don't when they're on the internet they don't read they scan the internet they don't read they scan the internet they don't read they scan I like to call it snack size information I like to call it snack size information I like to call it snack size information so you can just easily uh right like hey so you can just easily uh right like hey so you can just easily uh right like hey you know wear whatever you want drink you know wear whatever you want drink you know wear whatever you want drink coffee and Sanctuary meet some great coffee and Sanctuary meet some great coffee and Sanctuary meet some great people listen to a relevant message from people listen to a relevant message from people listen to a relevant message from Pastor John I like to include some Pastor John I like to include some Pastor John I like to include some different pictures down here so they can different pictures down here so they can different pictures down here so they can see yeah that's good real life people see yeah that's good real life people see yeah that's good real life people are right and uh that kind of stuff we are right and uh that kind of stuff we are right and uh that kind of stuff we don't judge like again this is part of don't judge like again this is part of don't judge like again this is part of our culture like hey we don't care if our culture like hey we don't care if our culture like hey we don't care if you have tattoos we don't care how you you have tattoos we don't care how you you have tattoos we don't care how you dress we don't care if you have a past dress we don't care if you have a past dress we don't care if you have a past the reason I did those three those are the reason I did those three those are the reason I did those three those are three of the largest objections that three of the largest objections that three of the largest objections that people have when they're visiting a people have when they're visiting a people have when they're visiting a church for the first time especially if church for the first time especially if church for the first time especially if they're unchurched right so like they're they're unchurched right so like they're they're unchurched right so like they're they're like oh man I have tattoos I've they're like oh man I have tattoos I've they're like oh man I have tattoos I've had people ask me this like man I have had people ask me this like man I have had people ask me this like man I have tattoos would I still be like welcome at tattoos would I still be like welcome at tattoos would I still be like welcome at your church are you kidding me like your church are you kidding me like your church are you kidding me like everybody in our church has tattoos I everybody in our church has tattoos I everybody in our church has tattoos I gotta be awesome people like well like I gotta be awesome people like well like I gotta be awesome people like well like I don't really like dress real fancy I'm don't really like dress real fancy I'm don't really like dress real fancy I'm like perfect right as long as you wear like perfect right as long as you wear like perfect right as long as you wear clothes you're good like uh man we don't clothes you're good like uh man we don't clothes you're good like uh man we don't care if you have a pass like we don't care if you have a pass like we don't care if you have a pass like we don't care if you're still hungover from last care if you're still hungover from last care if you're still hungover from last night man come on we just we just want night man come on we just we just want night man come on we just we just want to meet you so uh that's a good note for

  21. to meet you so uh that's a good note for to meet you so uh that's a good note for me Chris if I ever come visit your me Chris if I ever come visit your me Chris if I ever come visit your church I'm gonna get a fake tattoo church I'm gonna get a fake tattoo church I'm gonna get a fake tattoo somewhere bro so I make sure I fit in somewhere bro so I make sure I fit in somewhere bro so I make sure I fit in you know just something like a sleeve you know just something like a sleeve you know just something like a sleeve maybe I'll get a sleeve bro maybe I'll get a sleeve bro maybe I'll get a sleeve bro you would look really cool with a sleeve you would look really cool with a sleeve you would look really cool with a sleeve um dude it's really cool I don't know if um dude it's really cool I don't know if um dude it's really cool I don't know if I could pull it off I've thought about I could pull it off I've thought about I could pull it off I've thought about it before I don't have any tattoos it before I don't have any tattoos it before I don't have any tattoos whatsoever but uh some people yeah same whatsoever but uh some people yeah same whatsoever but uh some people yeah same uh yeah I think you'd look really cool uh yeah I think you'd look really cool uh yeah I think you'd look really cool to sleep you can do like one Big Bang to sleep you can do like one Big Bang to sleep you can do like one Big Bang Theory you know where they had those Theory you know where they had those Theory you know where they had those like fake tattoo sleeves all right yes like fake tattoo sleeves all right yes like fake tattoo sleeves all right yes that's what I'm thinking that's what I'm that's what I'm thinking that's what I'm that's what I'm thinking that's what I'm thinking I just have thinking I just have thinking I just have laughs laughs laughs love it man I love it yeah um yeah and love it man I love it yeah um yeah and love it man I love it yeah um yeah and then you know so this is just like then you know so this is just like then you know so this is just like obviously those are just like two stock obviously those are just like two stock obviously those are just like two stock pictures uh because we just made this pictures uh because we just made this pictures uh because we just made this website as an example uh so it's website as an example uh so it's website as an example uh so it's actually not I believe Church isn't real actually not I believe Church isn't real actually not I believe Church isn't real uh but you know Pastor John and Heather uh but you know Pastor John and Heather uh but you know Pastor John and Heather uh and then I'll read this part just to uh and then I'll read this part just to uh and then I'll read this part just to explain why and then we'll kind of you explain why and then we'll kind of you explain why and then we'll kind of you know move on but know move on but know move on but um so what I do with this most people um so what I do with this most people um so what I do with this most people would say like hey like you know meet would say like hey like you know meet would say like hey like you know meet Pastor John and they'd be like Pastor Pastor John and they'd be like Pastor Pastor John and they'd be like Pastor John went to Seminary for seven years John went to Seminary for seven years John went to Seminary for seven years and he went here and grew up in Dallas and he went here and grew up in Dallas and he went here and grew up in Dallas and he enjoys long walks on the beach and he enjoys long walks on the beach and he enjoys long walks on the beach and yellow labs and golden retrievers and yellow labs and golden retrievers and yellow labs and golden retrievers and like whatever right and it's like and like whatever right and it's like and like whatever right and it's like people don't actually care right like people don't actually care right like people don't actually care right like again everyone's kind of thinking like again everyone's kind of thinking like again everyone's kind of thinking like what's in it for me subconsciously right what's in it for me subconsciously right what's in it for me subconsciously right you know like we're all just kind of you know like we're all just kind of you know like we're all just kind of trying to like figure like hey is this a trying to like figure like hey is this a trying to like figure like hey is this a good fit for me and like where they went good fit for me and like where they went good fit for me and like where they went to Seminary or what type of dogs they to Seminary or what type of dogs they to Seminary or what type of dogs they like doesn't factor into their decision like doesn't factor into their decision like doesn't factor into their decision right so so instead the best thing you right so so instead the best thing you right so so instead the best thing you can do right uh my pastor always says can do right uh my pastor always says can do right uh my pastor always says people don't care that your dog died people don't care that your dog died people don't care that your dog died they care that their dog died right they care that their dog died right they care that their dog died right that's that's what it is right it's so that's that's what it is right it's so that's that's what it is right it's so uh I I wrote this copy on purpose to

  22. uh I I wrote this copy on purpose to uh I I wrote this copy on purpose to talk about them right you know I talk talk about them right you know I talk talk about them right you know I talk about the person who's reading it so about the person who's reading it so about the person who's reading it so instead of doing a bio on the pastor I instead of doing a bio on the pastor I instead of doing a bio on the pastor I would say like hey my name is John I would say like hey my name is John I would say like hey my name is John I believe that you are uniquely wired by believe that you are uniquely wired by believe that you are uniquely wired by God for a specific purpose and unless God for a specific purpose and unless God for a specific purpose and unless you figure out what that purpose is you figure out what that purpose is you figure out what that purpose is you'll never be truly fulfilled right you'll never be truly fulfilled right you'll never be truly fulfilled right the only thing that has to do with the only thing that has to do with the only thing that has to do with Pastor John is my name is John and then Pastor John is my name is John and then Pastor John is my name is John and then immediately starts talking about the immediately starts talking about the immediately starts talking about the person who's reading that copy right so person who's reading that copy right so person who's reading that copy right so say hey no one else on Earth can fulfill say hey no one else on Earth can fulfill say hey no one else on Earth can fulfill the unique calling that God has for you the unique calling that God has for you the unique calling that God has for you no one else can fulfill your assignment no one else can fulfill your assignment no one else can fulfill your assignment maybe you know exactly what that purpose maybe you know exactly what that purpose maybe you know exactly what that purpose is maybe you've been running from it for is maybe you've been running from it for is maybe you've been running from it for a while or maybe you have absolutely no a while or maybe you have absolutely no a while or maybe you have absolutely no idea where to even start looking for it idea where to even start looking for it idea where to even start looking for it uh but I want to help you find it uh but I want to help you find it uh but I want to help you find it because I believe that the ones who are because I believe that the ones who are because I believe that the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can crazy enough to think that they can crazy enough to think that they can change the world are the ones who change the world are the ones who change the world are the ones who actually do right so that copy is not actually do right so that copy is not actually do right so that copy is not going to speak to everyone but for going to speak to everyone but for going to speak to everyone but for people who are trying to find their people who are trying to find their people who are trying to find their purpose right or trying to find their purpose right or trying to find their purpose right or trying to find their calling and they believe that they're calling and they believe that they're calling and they believe that they're that they're that they're that they're they want to tap into something bigger they want to tap into something bigger they want to tap into something bigger than their lives right and do something than their lives right and do something than their lives right and do something they don't know they don't know how or they don't know they don't know how or they don't know they don't know how or they feel like they've been running from they feel like they've been running from they feel like they've been running from it for a while that copy is going to it for a while that copy is going to it for a while that copy is going to grab a hold of them and pull them into grab a hold of them and pull them into grab a hold of them and pull them into church on Sunday right and for the church on Sunday right and for the church on Sunday right and for the people like and and the people that people like and and the people that people like and and the people that don't resonate with that won't and don't resonate with that won't and don't resonate with that won't and that's actually a good thing right like that's actually a good thing right like that's actually a good thing right like we're not a church for every single we're not a church for every single we're not a church for every single person I know we all want to be we all person I know we all want to be we all person I know we all want to be we all want to think that but you know man want to think that but you know man want to think that but you know man there's there's a reason there's 30 some there's there's a reason there's 30 some there's there's a reason there's 30 some flavors at Baskin Robbins right like not flavors at Baskin Robbins right like not flavors at Baskin Robbins right like not everybody loves black cherry raspberry everybody loves black cherry raspberry everybody loves black cherry raspberry mint chocolate chip or something right mint chocolate chip or something right mint chocolate chip or something right like man some people just like chocolate like man some people just like chocolate like man some people just like chocolate right so uh churches are the same way right so uh churches are the same way right so uh churches are the same way there's different flavors all throughout there's different flavors all throughout there's different flavors all throughout the kingdom uh but for for people that

  23. the kingdom uh but for for people that the kingdom uh but for for people that are specifically trying to find their are specifically trying to find their are specifically trying to find their purpose right find their calling and purpose right find their calling and purpose right find their calling and believe that there is a calling in their believe that there is a calling in their believe that there is a calling in their life or something like that man now life or something like that man now life or something like that man now we're talking about it but I just want we're talking about it but I just want we're talking about it but I just want to point that out like I I didn't write to point that out like I I didn't write to point that out like I I didn't write this like it has nothing to do with this like it has nothing to do with this like it has nothing to do with Pastor John like it it's actually kind Pastor John like it it's actually kind Pastor John like it it's actually kind of kind of subtle right like hi of kind of subtle right like hi of kind of subtle right like hi Ambassador let's talk about you right so Ambassador let's talk about you right so Ambassador let's talk about you right so that's that's kind of what it is so uh that's that's kind of what it is so uh that's that's kind of what it is so uh okay which is good that's good everybody okay which is good that's good everybody okay which is good that's good everybody wants to see the rest of it wants to see the rest of it wants to see the rest of it um right had another plan your visit um right had another plan your visit um right had another plan your visit button I test drive a sermon instead of button I test drive a sermon instead of button I test drive a sermon instead of listen to a recent sermon nobody wants listen to a recent sermon nobody wants listen to a recent sermon nobody wants to listen to a recent sermon when you to listen to a recent sermon when you to listen to a recent sermon when you say test drive a sermon everybody I was say test drive a sermon everybody I was say test drive a sermon everybody I was like oh yeah I do want to test drive it like oh yeah I do want to test drive it like oh yeah I do want to test drive it and see what it sounds like yeah so we and see what it sounds like yeah so we and see what it sounds like yeah so we got a couple of those all right then we got a couple of those all right then we got a couple of those all right then we talk about kids that your kids are going talk about kids that your kids are going talk about kids that your kids are going to love it here same kind of thing like to love it here same kind of thing like to love it here same kind of thing like hey fun Services engaging uh music hey fun Services engaging uh music hey fun Services engaging uh music age-appropriate Bible lessons games free age-appropriate Bible lessons games free age-appropriate Bible lessons games free candy and your kids can earn Bible bucks candy and your kids can earn Bible bucks candy and your kids can earn Bible bucks at the kids store right that kind of at the kids store right that kind of at the kids store right that kind of stuff another plan your visit button uh stuff another plan your visit button uh stuff another plan your visit button uh we do things a little different no uh no we do things a little different no uh no we do things a little different no uh no awkward first visit no confusing Church awkward first visit no confusing Church awkward first visit no confusing Church language no judgmental church people language no judgmental church people language no judgmental church people your kids will beg you to come back your kids will beg you to come back your kids will beg you to come back again just answering questions and again just answering questions and again just answering questions and knocking down any objections people knocking down any objections people knocking down any objections people might have but in a really friendly way might have but in a really friendly way might have but in a really friendly way and then you know finally at the bottom and then you know finally at the bottom and then you know finally at the bottom like hey I need directions don't worry like hey I need directions don't worry like hey I need directions don't worry we got you covered uh when you plan your we got you covered uh when you plan your we got you covered uh when you plan your visit we'll send you all the details visit we'll send you all the details visit we'll send you all the details that you need to know right so we're not that you need to know right so we're not that you need to know right so we're not like linking to a map or like taking like linking to a map or like taking like linking to a map or like taking them away from the website where they them away from the website where they them away from the website where they can go to Google Maps I got it's like can go to Google Maps I got it's like can go to Google Maps I got it's like yeah no problem hey just plan your visit yeah no problem hey just plan your visit yeah no problem hey just plan your visit and we'll send you everything you need and we'll send you everything you need and we'll send you everything you need to know including the directions right to know including the directions right to know including the directions right so but that's just so but that's just so but that's just an example plan your visit page uh but an example plan your visit page uh but an example plan your visit page uh but you want to spend time talking about you want to spend time talking about you want to spend time talking about them uh which is yeah them uh which is yeah them uh which is yeah gotcha okay so so a Facebook ad Google

  24. gotcha okay so so a Facebook ad Google gotcha okay so so a Facebook ad Google ad sends them here they're like okay I'm ad sends them here they're like okay I'm ad sends them here they're like okay I'm sold then what yeah so uh I I personally sold then what yeah so uh I I personally sold then what yeah so uh I I personally like using text in church they have a like using text in church they have a like using text in church they have a phenomenal plan your visit Tool uh right phenomenal plan your visit Tool uh right phenomenal plan your visit Tool uh right so like if you if you click on that so like if you if you click on that so like if you if you click on that button down there yep that's that's a button down there yep that's that's a button down there yep that's that's a text and Search widget right so just be text and Search widget right so just be text and Search widget right so just be like uh hey you fill out the information like uh hey you fill out the information like uh hey you fill out the information below let us know how your uh below let us know how your uh below let us know how your uh um um um uh but like you know so it's it's uh but like you know so it's it's uh but like you know so it's it's playing your business I will say this on playing your business I will say this on playing your business I will say this on on that one right there like if people on that one right there like if people on that one right there like if people are setting this up like at home I would are setting this up like at home I would are setting this up like at home I would actually instead of the church logo actually instead of the church logo actually instead of the church logo nobody cares about your logo you should nobody cares about your logo you should nobody cares about your logo you should have a picture of the pastor or a video have a picture of the pastor or a video have a picture of the pastor or a video of the pastor right yeah who cares about of the pastor right yeah who cares about of the pastor right yeah who cares about your logo everybody wants to know who's your logo everybody wants to know who's your logo everybody wants to know who's the guy that I'm going to listen to talk the guy that I'm going to listen to talk the guy that I'm going to listen to talk about 30 or 45 minutes when I show up about 30 or 45 minutes when I show up about 30 or 45 minutes when I show up right so a picture of the pastor or right so a picture of the pastor or right so a picture of the pastor or um um um uh or or videos really really uh really uh or or videos really really uh really uh or or videos really really uh really great in there right so yeah like so you great in there right so yeah like so you great in there right so yeah like so you just fill out it's like you know name just fill out it's like you know name just fill out it's like you know name email phone number email phone number email phone number um and text the church right that can um and text the church right that can um and text the church right that can kick off like a whole plan your visit kick off like a whole plan your visit kick off like a whole plan your visit sequence so they get like a a welcome sequence so they get like a a welcome sequence so they get like a a welcome text message right away and all that text message right away and all that text message right away and all that kind of stuff so kind of stuff so kind of stuff so um that's all really really uh really um that's all really really uh really um that's all really really uh really huge what we found though is when huge what we found though is when huge what we found though is when someone plans a visit the most important someone plans a visit the most important someone plans a visit the most important thing that you can do is send them a thing that you can do is send them a thing that you can do is send them a text message within uh within the first text message within uh within the first text message within uh within the first 15 minutes after they plan a visit uh 15 minutes after they plan a visit uh 15 minutes after they plan a visit uh right so and and the reason for this right so and and the reason for this right so and and the reason for this right like so you either want to call right like so you either want to call right like so you either want to call them or send a text I personally like a them or send a text I personally like a them or send a text I personally like a phone call here's why phone call here's why phone call here's why um I know we're in the age of texting um I know we're in the age of texting um I know we're in the age of texting right like and I've I've come so close right like and I've I've come so close right like and I've I've come so close so many times like the voicemail like on so many times like the voicemail like on so many times like the voicemail like on my phone right like what I really want my phone right like what I really want my phone right like what I really want to do is just like hey what's up it's

  25. to do is just like hey what's up it's to do is just like hey what's up it's text me uh right because you know text me uh right because you know text me uh right because you know like literally on my voicemail right now like literally on my voicemail right now like literally on my voicemail right now it'll say like hey man leave me a it'll say like hey man leave me a it'll say like hey man leave me a voicemail I'll get back to within 24 voicemail I'll get back to within 24 voicemail I'll get back to within 24 hours or better yet text me and I'll hours or better yet text me and I'll hours or better yet text me and I'll probably get back to you within five probably get back to you within five probably get back to you within five minutes uh right like so I know text is minutes uh right like so I know text is minutes uh right like so I know text is a really really big thing however the a really really big thing however the a really really big thing however the reason I like a phone call up front is reason I like a phone call up front is reason I like a phone call up front is because because because um right just in our in our culture um right just in our in our culture um right just in our in our culture right now people don't have a lot of right now people don't have a lot of right now people don't have a lot of one-on-one conversations right one-on-one conversations right one-on-one conversations right especially this kind of stuff if they especially this kind of stuff if they especially this kind of stuff if they answer now it gives you the opportunity answer now it gives you the opportunity answer now it gives you the opportunity to introduce yourself and have a to introduce yourself and have a to introduce yourself and have a one-on-one conversation most people one-on-one conversation most people one-on-one conversation most people aren't going to answer a phone number aren't going to answer a phone number aren't going to answer a phone number that they don't know but some you know that they don't know but some you know that they don't know but some you know some people will uh but so if they some people will uh but so if they some people will uh but so if they answer great you can have a great answer great you can have a great answer great you can have a great conversation if they don't which is what conversation if they don't which is what conversation if they don't which is what most people do you can now leave a most people do you can now leave a most people do you can now leave a voicemail right and now people it's just voicemail right and now people it's just voicemail right and now people it's just another touch Point like they hear your another touch Point like they hear your another touch Point like they hear your voice talking about playing your visit voice talking about playing your visit voice talking about playing your visit right and and they what happens is again right and and they what happens is again right and and they what happens is again it's all subconsciously but they connect it's all subconsciously but they connect it's all subconsciously but they connect like church on Sunday to you as you like church on Sunday to you as you like church on Sunday to you as you called right so if you're the senior called right so if you're the senior called right so if you're the senior pastor you can call if you want to have pastor you can call if you want to have pastor you can call if you want to have somebody else on on your team call like somebody else on on your team call like somebody else on on your team call like that's fine but you want to make sure that's fine but you want to make sure that's fine but you want to make sure they're making like that that personal they're making like that that personal they're making like that that personal connection so now it's like oh yeah like connection so now it's like oh yeah like connection so now it's like oh yeah like I'm you know it's not just like hey I'm I'm you know it's not just like hey I'm I'm you know it's not just like hey I'm going to church on Sunday I think I'm I going to church on Sunday I think I'm I going to church on Sunday I think I'm I think maybe somebody's going to be think maybe somebody's going to be think maybe somebody's going to be waiting for me it's like oh no I talked waiting for me it's like oh no I talked waiting for me it's like oh no I talked to Katie right like I'm meeting Katie on to Katie right like I'm meeting Katie on to Katie right like I'm meeting Katie on Sunday uh right or or whatever it is so Sunday uh right or or whatever it is so Sunday uh right or or whatever it is so that part's really really important but that part's really really important but that part's really really important but with a with a phone phone call you can with a with a phone phone call you can with a with a phone phone call you can leave a voicemail and then you can text leave a voicemail and then you can text leave a voicemail and then you can text them immediately afterwards and say them immediately afterwards and say them immediately afterwards and say basically the same thing and now I like basically the same thing and now I like basically the same thing and now I like talking on the phone they'll call you

  26. talking on the phone they'll call you talking on the phone they'll call you back if they like texting they'll text back if they like texting they'll text back if they like texting they'll text you back and now you know the best way you back and now you know the best way you back and now you know the best way to communicate with them moving forward to communicate with them moving forward to communicate with them moving forward right so I'm a texter yeah that's okay I right so I'm a texter yeah that's okay I right so I'm a texter yeah that's okay I would immediately text them back now we would immediately text them back now we would immediately text them back now we can go back and forth to texting all day can go back and forth to texting all day can go back and forth to texting all day long I'm not great at calling people long I'm not great at calling people long I'm not great at calling people back all day long right so back all day long right so back all day long right so yeah that's good that's good yeah that's good that's good yeah that's good that's good um okay so I've finished um okay so I've finished um okay so I've finished um oh it recognized that my my primary um oh it recognized that my my primary um oh it recognized that my my primary number is invalid the five five five number is invalid the five five five number is invalid the five five five so so it caught me uh but that's how so so it caught me uh but that's how so so it caught me uh but that's how they would finish it they'd submit that they would finish it they'd submit that they would finish it they'd submit that and then it would it would kick off the and then it would it would kick off the and then it would it would kick off the the workflow uh for them so let me um the workflow uh for them so let me um the workflow uh for them so let me um automated text message at that point automated text message at that point automated text message at that point which is which is good you want them to which is which is good you want them to which is which is good you want them to get some type of a confirmation but I get some type of a confirmation but I get some type of a confirmation but I didn't hear from someone at your church didn't hear from someone at your church didn't hear from someone at your church within the next 15 minutes within the next 15 minutes within the next 15 minutes um right which isn't easy like you know um right which isn't easy like you know um right which isn't easy like you know it's a it's it's yeah but uh what it's a it's it's yeah but uh what it's a it's it's yeah but uh what happens so you know we talk about like happens so you know we talk about like happens so you know we talk about like the the number one mistake the churches the the number one mistake the churches the the number one mistake the churches make when they're first trying to do uh make when they're first trying to do uh make when they're first trying to do uh plan your visit plan your visit plan your visit all right so like uh one of them which all right so like uh one of them which all right so like uh one of them which is which is a big one is just not is which is a big one is just not is which is a big one is just not launching because they say they're you launching because they say they're you launching because they say they're you know oh we're gonna Train everybody and know oh we're gonna Train everybody and know oh we're gonna Train everybody and then you never launch it right but if then you never launch it right but if then you never launch it right but if you actually do launch it the number one you actually do launch it the number one you actually do launch it the number one mistake people make keeps people away mistake people make keeps people away mistake people make keeps people away from their church is uh they don't call from their church is uh they don't call from their church is uh they don't call the plan your business within 15 minutes the plan your business within 15 minutes the plan your business within 15 minutes right and so here's here's what happens right and so here's here's what happens right and so here's here's what happens when when that happened right so you when when that happened right so you when when that happened right so you have an unchurched person who sees uh have an unchurched person who sees uh have an unchurched person who sees uh you know like a maybe a a video invite you know like a maybe a a video invite you know like a maybe a a video invite ad on Facebook right of your pastor

  27. ad on Facebook right of your pastor ad on Facebook right of your pastor saying hey what's up man my name's you saying hey what's up man my name's you saying hey what's up man my name's you know Pastor Abel I want to invite you know Pastor Abel I want to invite you know Pastor Abel I want to invite you out to uh church on Sunday man just out to uh church on Sunday man just out to uh church on Sunday man just click on the link below uh man sign up click on the link below uh man sign up click on the link below uh man sign up for plan your visit and then we'll for plan your visit and then we'll for plan your visit and then we'll actually have a friendly person uh you actually have a friendly person uh you actually have a friendly person uh you know meet you at the front door on know meet you at the front door on know meet you at the front door on Sunday kind of show you around hope you Sunday kind of show you around hope you Sunday kind of show you around hope you get your kids checked into kids search get your kids checked into kids search get your kids checked into kids search save seats with you right uh man we'll save seats with you right uh man we'll save seats with you right uh man we'll have a great time all right so then they have a great time all right so then they have a great time all right so then they go over to the plan your visit page they go over to the plan your visit page they go over to the plan your visit page they read through the page like okay I'm in read through the page like okay I'm in read through the page like okay I'm in right they click on it they fill out right they click on it they fill out right they click on it they fill out everything they schedule the appointment everything they schedule the appointment everything they schedule the appointment right but then they don't ever hear from right but then they don't ever hear from right but then they don't ever hear from anyone what happens is they start anyone what happens is they start anyone what happens is they start thinking they're like man I signed up thinking they're like man I signed up thinking they're like man I signed up for that that plan your visit thing like for that that plan your visit thing like for that that plan your visit thing like did I do it right did I do something did I do it right did I do something did I do it right did I do something wrong am I in it's like did I man is wrong am I in it's like did I man is wrong am I in it's like did I man is anyone checking that like oh shoot did anyone checking that like oh shoot did anyone checking that like oh shoot did they like go to my like my personal they like go to my like my personal they like go to my like my personal profile on Facebook and like see that profile on Facebook and like see that profile on Facebook and like see that like my uh my my life isn't uh isn't like my uh my my life isn't uh isn't like my uh my my life isn't uh isn't cleaned up or whatever enough to come to cleaned up or whatever enough to come to cleaned up or whatever enough to come to their church and so all right and so their church and so all right and so their church and so all right and so then they start experiencing rejection then they start experiencing rejection then they start experiencing rejection then they don't show up on Sunday right then they don't show up on Sunday right then they don't show up on Sunday right and so then you guys are like Nathan and so then you guys are like Nathan and so then you guys are like Nathan Abba we've watched the interview on plan Abba we've watched the interview on plan Abba we've watched the interview on plan your visit we tried it we got you know your visit we tried it we got you know your visit we tried it we got you know five player visits and nobody showed up five player visits and nobody showed up five player visits and nobody showed up on Sunday it's like oh right that's on Sunday it's like oh right that's on Sunday it's like oh right that's that's what it's almost yeah it's almost that's what it's almost yeah it's almost that's what it's almost yeah it's almost like it falls on E like it's gonna fall like it falls on E like it's gonna fall like it falls on E like it's gonna fall on either side of it if you respond on either side of it if you respond on either side of it if you respond within you know 15 minutes then hey within you know 15 minutes then hey within you know 15 minutes then hey you're already you're kicking off you're already you're kicking off you're already you're kicking off credibility and a great experience and credibility and a great experience and credibility and a great experience and hey you're communicating you care but hey you're communicating you care but hey you're communicating you care but not responding quickly now it's gonna not responding quickly now it's gonna not responding quickly now it's gonna fall on the other side it's almost like fall on the other side it's almost like fall on the other side it's almost like there's no middle ground with that there's no middle ground with that there's no middle ground with that they're not just gonna walk away with they're not just gonna walk away with they're not just gonna walk away with like oh I'm sure you know assume the like oh I'm sure you know assume the like oh I'm sure you know assume the best and like oh I'm sure you know best and like oh I'm sure you know best and like oh I'm sure you know they're gonna reach out to me or no it's they're gonna reach out to me or no it's they're gonna reach out to me or no it's gonna be like oh great experience you gonna be like oh great experience you gonna be like oh great experience you can respond quick or not a great can respond quick or not a great can respond quick or not a great experience bad impression so it's almost

  28. experience bad impression so it's almost experience bad impression so it's almost better not to do you know if you're not better not to do you know if you're not better not to do you know if you're not going to have a good system for going to have a good system for going to have a good system for following up if I'm hearing what you're following up if I'm hearing what you're following up if I'm hearing what you're saying then to try to do this and do it saying then to try to do this and do it saying then to try to do this and do it wrong now you're gonna You're Gonna wrong now you're gonna You're Gonna wrong now you're gonna You're Gonna Leave people frustrated yep yep that's Leave people frustrated yep yep that's Leave people frustrated yep yep that's that's that's exactly what it is right that's that's exactly what it is right that's that's exactly what it is right like so you'll have people signing up like so you'll have people signing up like so you'll have people signing up for playing your visit they just won't for playing your visit they just won't for playing your visit they just won't be showing up on Sunday sure right so be showing up on Sunday sure right so be showing up on Sunday sure right so that's that's the big thing and I I know that's that's the big thing and I I know that's that's the big thing and I I know like obviously we you don't need to call like obviously we you don't need to call like obviously we you don't need to call them at three o'clock in the morning if them at three o'clock in the morning if them at three o'clock in the morning if you get to plan your visit right right you get to plan your visit right right you get to plan your visit right right like in my church we do like a nine a like in my church we do like a nine a like in my church we do like a nine a nine to nine window right so like if a nine to nine window right so like if a nine to nine window right so like if a plan your visit comes in after 9 A.M and plan your visit comes in after 9 A.M and plan your visit comes in after 9 A.M and before 9 00 p.m right then we call them before 9 00 p.m right then we call them before 9 00 p.m right then we call them within 15 minutes within 15 minutes within 15 minutes um if uh if it's after 9 p.m right then um if uh if it's after 9 p.m right then um if uh if it's after 9 p.m right then all we do is we just wait till the next all we do is we just wait till the next all we do is we just wait till the next morning at 9 00 a.m and then we call morning at 9 00 a.m and then we call morning at 9 00 a.m and then we call them all right so excuse me that's um them all right so excuse me that's um them all right so excuse me that's um yeah that's you know doing a 99 window yeah that's you know doing a 99 window yeah that's you know doing a 99 window people don't expect you if they're people don't expect you if they're people don't expect you if they're they're stumbling back from the bar they're stumbling back from the bar they're stumbling back from the bar right on like Friday night and they and right on like Friday night and they and right on like Friday night and they and they see a Facebook ad and they get they see a Facebook ad and they get they see a Facebook ad and they get convicted decide they need to come to convicted decide they need to come to convicted decide they need to come to church whatever it's 2 A.M they set up a church whatever it's 2 A.M they set up a church whatever it's 2 A.M they set up a plane to visit they're not expecting a plane to visit they're not expecting a plane to visit they're not expecting a phone call and let's be honest if they phone call and let's be honest if they phone call and let's be honest if they did get a phone call be kind of creepy did get a phone call be kind of creepy did get a phone call be kind of creepy right so the middle of the night but 9am right so the middle of the night but 9am right so the middle of the night but 9am to 9pm give them a call and uh and then to 9pm give them a call and uh and then to 9pm give them a call and uh and then people are like oh my gosh there's an people are like oh my gosh there's an people are like oh my gosh there's an actual person waiting for me at the actual person waiting for me at the actual person waiting for me at the front door on Sunday front door on Sunday front door on Sunday yeah yeah okay so real quick recap the yeah yeah okay so real quick recap the yeah yeah okay so real quick recap the four four four um Step stages or I forget what you call um Step stages or I forget what you call um Step stages or I forget what you call them but like the four elements of them but like the four elements of them but like the four elements of playing your visit what are those again playing your visit what are those again playing your visit what are those again yeah so uh Facebook ad landing page yeah so uh Facebook ad landing page yeah so uh Facebook ad landing page hosted visit and then uh follow-up hosted visit and then uh follow-up hosted visit and then uh follow-up system system system right so uh for follow says uh again

  29. right so uh for follow says uh again right so uh for follow says uh again text in church is phenomenal text in church is phenomenal text in church is phenomenal um for me that's what I do is uh use um for me that's what I do is uh use um for me that's what I do is uh use plan your visit for uh or use text plan your visit for uh or use text plan your visit for uh or use text insurance for the plan your visit like insurance for the plan your visit like insurance for the plan your visit like Tech side of it that they can sign up Tech side of it that they can sign up Tech side of it that they can sign up for it and then also after they visit on for it and then also after they visit on for it and then also after they visit on Sunday I would plug them into uh a Sunday I would plug them into uh a Sunday I would plug them into uh a follow-up system like I know Texan follow-up system like I know Texan follow-up system like I know Texan church has a a six-week follow-up system church has a a six-week follow-up system church has a a six-week follow-up system that they've built that like just comes that they've built that like just comes that they've built that like just comes like when you first sign up for an like when you first sign up for an like when you first sign up for an account it's already there you just account it's already there you just account it's already there you just start plugging people into your six-week start plugging people into your six-week start plugging people into your six-week follow-up system right and now they're follow-up system right and now they're follow-up system right and now they're gonna get a series of emails text gonna get a series of emails text gonna get a series of emails text messages and personal phone calls uh you messages and personal phone calls uh you messages and personal phone calls uh you know from from you and your team or know from from you and your team or know from from you and your team or whatever that's going to come through whatever that's going to come through whatever that's going to come through Texas church for the next six weeks Texas church for the next six weeks Texas church for the next six weeks right because the only thing better than right because the only thing better than right because the only thing better than a first time visitor is a second time a first time visitor is a second time a first time visitor is a second time visitor right so once we get them in the visitor right so once we get them in the visitor right so once we get them in the doors and we can come back again doors and we can come back again doors and we can come back again yeah and for those interested in you're yeah and for those interested in you're yeah and for those interested in you're watching and you're like man I want to watching and you're like man I want to watching and you're like man I want to set this up I you know I need more in set this up I you know I need more in set this up I you know I need more in depth teaching on it we actually have a depth teaching on it we actually have a depth teaching on it we actually have a course on this and if you're interested course on this and if you're interested course on this and if you're interested in that we'd love for you to be a part in that we'd love for you to be a part in that we'd love for you to be a part of it you can just uh text free to this of it you can just uh text free to this of it you can just uh text free to this number right here number right here number right here um we also have our top 10 uh Church um we also have our top 10 uh Church um we also have our top 10 uh Church growth resources that we put together growth resources that we put together growth resources that we put together and we'll be able to give you access to and we'll be able to give you access to and we'll be able to give you access to to those so uh if you made it this far to those so uh if you made it this far to those so uh if you made it this far into the video and maybe just started into the video and maybe just started into the video and maybe just started watching watching watching um you know then right there you can um you know then right there you can um you know then right there you can text free to that number and uh we'll text free to that number and uh we'll text free to that number and uh we'll get you those resources plus uh we can get you those resources plus uh we can get you those resources plus uh we can show you how you can get access to a show you how you can get access to a show you how you can get access to a course where we actually teach in depth course where we actually teach in depth course where we actually teach in depth how to install this how to get this all how to install this how to get this all how to install this how to get this all together the whole system working uh so together the whole system working uh so together the whole system working uh so it's it's pretty phenomenal pretty great it's it's pretty phenomenal pretty great it's it's pretty phenomenal pretty great okay so Chris what if we um show some okay so Chris what if we um show some okay so Chris what if we um show some results this is kind of the fun part

  30. results this is kind of the fun part results this is kind of the fun part show some results of what some churches show some results of what some churches show some results of what some churches that we're working with that they're that we're working with that they're that we're working with that they're seeing using plan your visit so I'm seeing using plan your visit so I'm seeing using plan your visit so I'm gonna just add this to um to the stream gonna just add this to um to the stream gonna just add this to um to the stream here and uh I'll just let you walk here and uh I'll just let you walk here and uh I'll just let you walk through it because I know you know a lot through it because I know you know a lot through it because I know you know a lot of the stories you know actually of the stories you know actually of the stories you know actually personally a lot of these churches and personally a lot of these churches and personally a lot of these churches and know their experience so you can kind of know their experience so you can kind of know their experience so you can kind of add the context here so I'll just pull add the context here so I'll just pull add the context here so I'll just pull up the first one here and let you have up the first one here and let you have up the first one here and let you have at it so this one's you know Pastor at it so this one's you know Pastor at it so this one's you know Pastor Dennis cool thing is these are like all Dennis cool thing is these are like all Dennis cool thing is these are like all over the country right doesn't matter over the country right doesn't matter over the country right doesn't matter what part of the country you're in but what part of the country you're in but what part of the country you're in but uh Pastor Dennis man said first Sunday uh Pastor Dennis man said first Sunday uh Pastor Dennis man said first Sunday three plan your visits and 21 guests three plan your visits and 21 guests three plan your visits and 21 guests right and literally he did exactly what right and literally he did exactly what right and literally he did exactly what we just talked about he launched a we just talked about he launched a we just talked about he launched a Facebook ad and went to his plan your Facebook ad and went to his plan your Facebook ad and went to his plan your visit page right and then people sign up visit page right and then people sign up visit page right and then people sign up for playing your visit and then uh right for playing your visit and then uh right for playing your visit and then uh right and and that was it so first Sunday that and and that was it so first Sunday that and and that was it so first Sunday that he uh that he tried that three planar he uh that he tried that three planar he uh that he tried that three planar visits and 21 guests well I was just gonna say um it reminded well I was just gonna say um it reminded me of uh one of the churches that I was me of uh one of the churches that I was me of uh one of the churches that I was working with helping out uh we did this working with helping out uh we did this working with helping out uh we did this this past Easter and saw like they had this past Easter and saw like they had this past Easter and saw like they had never done this they um they were never done this they um they were never done this they um they were starting a new location and starting a new location and starting a new location and um bro it like blew up you know I know um bro it like blew up you know I know um bro it like blew up you know I know we were talking before about the I don't we were talking before about the I don't we were talking before about the I don't know why this one didn't come to mind know why this one didn't come to mind know why this one didn't come to mind but um we did the whole plan your visit but um we did the whole plan your visit but um we did the whole plan your visit thing we did the easterling but just thing we did the easterling but just thing we did the easterling but just like you told us to do you know like I like you told us to do you know like I like you told us to do you know like I got to put this in and this is a buddy got to put this in and this is a buddy got to put this in and this is a buddy of mine so um kind of a cool of mine so um kind of a cool of mine so um kind of a cool relationship that we've got but I was relationship that we've got but I was relationship that we've got but I was like bro you got to do this plan your like bro you got to do this plan your like bro you got to do this plan your visit thing it's gonna be awesome like visit thing it's gonna be awesome like visit thing it's gonna be awesome like okay let's let's do it and uh we did okay let's let's do it and uh we did okay let's let's do it and uh we did Facebook ads just like you taught with Facebook ads just like you taught with Facebook ads just like you taught with the selfie video thing drove drove

  31. the selfie video thing drove drove the selfie video thing drove drove traffic and I want to make sure I get traffic and I want to make sure I get traffic and I want to make sure I get the numbers right but we had 15 they had the numbers right but we had 15 they had the numbers right but we had 15 they had 59 uh first-time guests just the adults 59 uh first-time guests just the adults 59 uh first-time guests just the adults not including kids 59. yeah and if you not including kids 59. yeah and if you not including kids 59. yeah and if you you factored in how much they spent on you factored in how much they spent on you factored in how much they spent on their Facebook ads it was like 11.40 if their Facebook ads it was like 11.40 if their Facebook ads it was like 11.40 if you were to calculate like that per you were to calculate like that per you were to calculate like that per visitor and I was just like dude visitor and I was just like dude visitor and I was just like dude per visitor yeah like actually showed up per visitor yeah like actually showed up per visitor yeah like actually showed up visitor like 11 and 40 cents I'm like visitor like 11 and 40 cents I'm like visitor like 11 and 40 cents I'm like man what church in America wouldn't man what church in America wouldn't man what church in America wouldn't spend and invest 11 and 40 cents for spend and invest 11 and 40 cents for spend and invest 11 and 40 cents for someone to hear the gospel someone to hear the gospel someone to hear the gospel um I was just like and it was so cool um I was just like and it was so cool um I was just like and it was so cool for me because one you know it's a buddy for me because one you know it's a buddy for me because one you know it's a buddy of mine but for us to do this and of mine but for us to do this and of mine but for us to do this and personally put it together and then to personally put it together and then to personally put it together and then to see the results was like awesome so see the results was like awesome so see the results was like awesome so sorry I just like hijacked their little sorry I just like hijacked their little sorry I just like hijacked their little testimony time here but that like testimony time here but that like testimony time here but that like literally came to mind as you were literally came to mind as you were literally came to mind as you were saying this one I was like why didn't I saying this one I was like why didn't I saying this one I was like why didn't I think we were just talking about these think we were just talking about these think we were just talking about these testimonies so anyway pretty incredible testimonies so anyway pretty incredible testimonies so anyway pretty incredible here I'll jump to the next one here uh here I'll jump to the next one here uh here I'll jump to the next one here uh yeah yeah so this this one was Pastor yeah yeah so this this one was Pastor yeah yeah so this this one was Pastor Gavin right uh I said hey uh we had Gavin right uh I said hey uh we had Gavin right uh I said hey uh we had seven plan your visits this week 15 seven plan your visits this week 15 seven plan your visits this week 15 first-time guests today uh same thing first-time guests today uh same thing first-time guests today uh same thing that was like the first or second week that was like the first or second week that was like the first or second week that he started running uh plan your that he started running uh plan your that he started running uh plan your visit uh with a Facebook ad uh and then visit uh with a Facebook ad uh and then visit uh with a Facebook ad uh and then this one was uh Tiffany said hey we just this one was uh Tiffany said hey we just this one was uh Tiffany said hey we just started plan your visit last week and started plan your visit last week and started plan your visit last week and had two new families this week we had two new families this week we had two new families this week we already you have one signed up we're already you have one signed up we're already you have one signed up we're believing this is going to explode we're believing this is going to explode we're believing this is going to explode we're the only church in our city that's the only church in our city that's the only church in our city that's currently doing this currently doing this currently doing this um and I I mean to that point I'll say um and I I mean to that point I'll say um and I I mean to that point I'll say this all right so not only uh like if this all right so not only uh like if this all right so not only uh like if you if you do this right like not only you if you do this right like not only you if you do this right like not only will it start working like the very will it start working like the very will it start working like the very first week

  32. first week first week um but like and and I'll only say that um but like and and I'll only say that um but like and and I'll only say that because I've I've taught this to over a because I've I've taught this to over a because I've I've taught this to over a thousand churches at this point or thousand churches at this point or thousand churches at this point or whatever like and uh and whether I've whatever like and uh and whether I've whatever like and uh and whether I've run their ads or whether I just kind of run their ads or whether I just kind of run their ads or whether I just kind of Coach them through this process like it Coach them through this process like it Coach them through this process like it just starts working from the beginning just starts working from the beginning just starts working from the beginning and again it's not like it's not rocket and again it's not like it's not rocket and again it's not like it's not rocket surgery or anything like that it's just surgery or anything like that it's just surgery or anything like that it's just then this lowers the barrier of entry then this lowers the barrier of entry then this lowers the barrier of entry for people to uh for people to visit for people to uh for people to visit for people to uh for people to visit right so if you do it right like you're right so if you do it right like you're right so if you do it right like you're going to have people who are going to going to have people who are going to going to have people who are going to sign up for plan your visit and then sign up for plan your visit and then sign up for plan your visit and then show up on Sunday show up on Sunday show up on Sunday um and it also gives you an advantage um and it also gives you an advantage um and it also gives you an advantage right if people go to like Google and right if people go to like Google and right if people go to like Google and they're going through like just looking they're going through like just looking they're going through like just looking at different Church websites and if at different Church websites and if at different Church websites and if you're the only one showing up in your you're the only one showing up in your you're the only one showing up in your city that's doing plan your visit you city that's doing plan your visit you city that's doing plan your visit you have an unfair advantage over everybody have an unfair advantage over everybody have an unfair advantage over everybody else because there's there's like you're else because there's there's like you're else because there's there's like you're gonna have especially unchurched people gonna have especially unchurched people gonna have especially unchurched people are going to be signing up for uh for are going to be signing up for uh for are going to be signing up for uh for plan your visit so yeah super cool love plan your visit so yeah super cool love plan your visit so yeah super cool love that that that uh oh yeah this is uh past Aaron hey so uh oh yeah this is uh past Aaron hey so uh oh yeah this is uh past Aaron hey so no so I posted an ad for the weekend no so I posted an ad for the weekend no so I posted an ad for the weekend message uh and tied it to the plan your message uh and tied it to the plan your message uh and tied it to the plan your visit page two hours later we have our visit page two hours later we have our visit page two hours later we have our first plan your visit uh I don't want first plan your visit uh I don't want first plan your visit uh I don't want you guys like I I love right like it's you guys like I I love right like it's you guys like I I love right like it's you know because sometimes you like you know because sometimes you like you know because sometimes you like launch that and then like nothing for a launch that and then like nothing for a launch that and then like nothing for a couple of days you're like man are couple of days you're like man are couple of days you're like man are people there it looks like they're people there it looks like they're people there it looks like they're clicking on that is our playing your clicking on that is our playing your clicking on that is our playing your business stuff working right like how business stuff working right like how business stuff working right like how cool is that you launch a Facebook ad cool is that you launch a Facebook ad cool is that you launch a Facebook ad two hours later you get a plan your two hours later you get a plan your two hours later you get a plan your visit like I guess this does work okay visit like I guess this does work okay visit like I guess this does work okay that's cool yeah it is fun like that that's cool yeah it is fun like that that's cool yeah it is fun like that it's almost like you just wow I could it's almost like you just wow I could it's almost like you just wow I could just flip a switch I mean it's a little just flip a switch I mean it's a little just flip a switch I mean it's a little more complicated than that but not I more complicated than that but not I more complicated than that but not I mean it is pretty amazing then you just mean it is pretty amazing then you just mean it is pretty amazing then you just get to sit back and watch it come in get to sit back and watch it come in get to sit back and watch it come in you're like oh my gosh why haven't I you're like oh my gosh why haven't I you're like oh my gosh why haven't I been doing this you know way before this been doing this you know way before this been doing this you know way before this point so yeah super cool okay oh yeah

  33. point so yeah super cool okay oh yeah point so yeah super cool okay oh yeah this is this is Pastor Keith yeah yeah this is this is Pastor Keith yeah yeah this is this is Pastor Keith yeah yeah so I I love this you and I were actually so I I love this you and I were actually so I I love this you and I were actually talking about this uh beforehand so talking about this uh beforehand so talking about this uh beforehand so here's here's what I like about this one here's here's what I like about this one here's here's what I like about this one um so like you know heads up you know um so like you know heads up you know um so like you know heads up you know we're getting crazy plan your visits we're getting crazy plan your visits we're getting crazy plan your visits right we've had over 1100 New visitors right we've had over 1100 New visitors right we've had over 1100 New visitors to our website in the past eight days uh to our website in the past eight days uh to our website in the past eight days uh between the grow Google ads team and between the grow Google ads team and between the grow Google ads team and running the ads on Facebook 13 plan your running the ads on Facebook 13 plan your running the ads on Facebook 13 plan your visits this week so here's the school visits this week so here's the school visits this week so here's the school like remember like we talked about like remember like we talked about like remember like we talked about earlier how you know it's usually like earlier how you know it's usually like earlier how you know it's usually like for every 200 or 300 uh uh clicks that for every 200 or 300 uh uh clicks that for every 200 or 300 uh uh clicks that you have to your website you get a plan you have to your website you get a plan you have to your website you get a plan your visit right so some people might be your visit right so some people might be your visit right so some people might be shocked like wait only third like 1100 shocked like wait only third like 1100 shocked like wait only third like 1100 people went to their website and they people went to their website and they people went to their website and they only got 13 play in your visits it's only got 13 play in your visits it's only got 13 play in your visits it's like yes and that's that's completely like yes and that's that's completely like yes and that's that's completely normal normal normal um like those ads are those numbers are um like those ads are those numbers are um like those ads are those numbers are really really good because here's the really really good because here's the really really good because here's the deal deal deal they probably paid like 25 or 30 cents they probably paid like 25 or 30 cents they probably paid like 25 or 30 cents per click uh right so like it's it's per click uh right so like it's it's per click uh right so like it's it's nothing it's nothing crazy uh that that nothing it's nothing crazy uh that that nothing it's nothing crazy uh that that you're that you're getting that but like you're that you're getting that but like you're that you're getting that but like but here's here's my favorite part about but here's here's my favorite part about but here's here's my favorite part about this right is you have 1100 clicks to this right is you have 1100 clicks to this right is you have 1100 clicks to the website 1100 New visitors you the website 1100 New visitors you the website 1100 New visitors you actually just invited 1100 people to actually just invited 1100 people to actually just invited 1100 people to church right you planted the scene we church right you planted the scene we church right you planted the scene we all know like every single person who's all know like every single person who's all know like every single person who's like you know probably watching this like you know probably watching this like you know probably watching this interview has uh at least one if not 100 interview has uh at least one if not 100 interview has uh at least one if not 100 people that they've invited the church people that they've invited the church people that they've invited the church and they didn't come the very first and they didn't come the very first and they didn't come the very first Sunday right like I've got friends I've Sunday right like I've got friends I've Sunday right like I've got friends I've been working on for years trying to get been working on for years trying to get been working on for years trying to get them to come to church right and what's them to come to church right and what's them to come to church right and what's funny is just sometimes like one Sunday funny is just sometimes like one Sunday funny is just sometimes like one Sunday they just show up right like they just they just show up right like they just they just show up right like they just you know they finally just say yes I you know they finally just say yes I you know they finally just say yes I know like when for me like I was in in

  34. know like when for me like I was in in know like when for me like I was in in the very first day of seventh grade bro the very first day of seventh grade bro the very first day of seventh grade bro I don't know if I ever told you this I don't know if I ever told you this I don't know if I ever told you this story and the very first day of seventh story and the very first day of seventh story and the very first day of seventh grade I showed up the homeroom right and grade I showed up the homeroom right and grade I showed up the homeroom right and and we had to we had to sit uh in and we had to we had to sit uh in and we had to we had to sit uh in alphabetical order so there's this girl alphabetical order so there's this girl alphabetical order so there's this girl right behind me Dana uh and I was like right behind me Dana uh and I was like right behind me Dana uh and I was like dude there's this super hot girl sitting dude there's this super hot girl sitting dude there's this super hot girl sitting behind me right so so like I said you behind me right so so like I said you behind me right so so like I said you know so I turn around introduce myself know so I turn around introduce myself know so I turn around introduce myself whatever and I literally I was just like whatever and I literally I was just like whatever and I literally I was just like you know my little seventh grade self I you know my little seventh grade self I you know my little seventh grade self I was like okay in one week she'll be my was like okay in one week she'll be my was like okay in one week she'll be my girlfriend uh right girlfriend uh right girlfriend uh right actually took four days uh you know so actually took four days uh you know so actually took four days uh you know so but but what was what was cool is uh you but but what was what was cool is uh you but but what was what was cool is uh you know seventh grade so I think we broke know seventh grade so I think we broke know seventh grade so I think we broke up like three weeks later because we up like three weeks later because we up like three weeks later because we decided we were better all right decided we were better all right decided we were better all right girlfriend whatever it was but literally girlfriend whatever it was but literally girlfriend whatever it was but literally like she was a Christian and she would like she was a Christian and she would like she was a Christian and she would tell me about Jesus all the time right tell me about Jesus all the time right tell me about Jesus all the time right like I mean all the time and she would like I mean all the time and she would like I mean all the time and she would witness to me for two years because we witness to me for two years because we witness to me for two years because we became my best friends for two years she became my best friends for two years she became my best friends for two years she invited me to church over and over and invited me to church over and over and invited me to church over and over and over but like I'd been to church when I over but like I'd been to church when I over but like I'd been to church when I was a kid and it sucked and it was super was a kid and it sucked and it was super was a kid and it sucked and it was super boring so I was like I don't want to go boring so I was like I don't want to go boring so I was like I don't want to go so I was just like no no I'm good right so I was just like no no I'm good right so I was just like no no I'm good right and she invited me some like different and she invited me some like different and she invited me some like different like kind of bridge events right like like kind of bridge events right like like kind of bridge events right like open gyms and I went to a DC Talk open gyms and I went to a DC Talk open gyms and I went to a DC Talk concert with her and uh concert with her and uh concert with her and uh uh you know what what was what was crazy uh you know what what was what was crazy uh you know what what was what was crazy was like literally she invited me to was like literally she invited me to was like literally she invited me to church over and over and over for two church over and over and over for two church over and over and over for two years and so like literally one day years and so like literally one day years and so like literally one day um like two weeks before my freshman um like two weeks before my freshman um like two weeks before my freshman year of high school two years later I year of high school two years later I year of high school two years later I will I'd talk to her in a little while will I'd talk to her in a little while will I'd talk to her in a little while right like most of the summer I like I right like most of the summer I like I right like most of the summer I like I woke up one uh like one day and I was woke up one uh like one day and I was woke up one uh like one day and I was like dude I'm gonna go to church on like dude I'm gonna go to church on like dude I'm gonna go to church on Sunday like and literally like now it Sunday like and literally like now it Sunday like and literally like now it you know it wasn't a super wholesome you know it wasn't a super wholesome you know it wasn't a super wholesome idea right but I was just like man idea right but I was just like man idea right but I was just like man Dana's been looking really hot we're Dana's been looking really hot we're Dana's been looking really hot we're getting ready to have high school like I

  35. getting ready to have high school like I getting ready to have high school like I should I should like dance like let's should I should like dance like let's should I should like dance like let's probably go make Dana my girlfriend probably go make Dana my girlfriend probably go make Dana my girlfriend again uh and so like what's yours I'll again uh and so like what's yours I'll again uh and so like what's yours I'll just go to church on Sunday I'll show up just go to church on Sunday I'll show up just go to church on Sunday I'll show up and I'll surprise her right and then you and I'll surprise her right and then you and I'll surprise her right and then you know get brownie points and she'll be my know get brownie points and she'll be my know get brownie points and she'll be my girlfriend again uh but you know the whole point to that or whatever is the whole point to that or whatever is that like like Dana like planted those that like like Dana like planted those that like like Dana like planted those seeds and by the way I did go that seeds and by the way I did go that seeds and by the way I did go that Sunday and actually like got saved that Sunday and actually like got saved that Sunday and actually like got saved that Sunday uh and they were experience there Sunday uh and they were experience there Sunday uh and they were experience there was the church camp was starting that was the church camp was starting that was the church camp was starting that day so I ran home packed a bag called my day so I ran home packed a bag called my day so I ran home packed a bag called my best friend I was like Kippy pack a bag best friend I was like Kippy pack a bag best friend I was like Kippy pack a bag we're going to church camp he's like we're going to church camp he's like we're going to church camp he's like I'll be ready in 10 minutes right like I'll be ready in 10 minutes right like I'll be ready in 10 minutes right like go to the church camp he like he got go to the church camp he like he got go to the church camp he like he got saved later that day I got saved like we saved later that day I got saved like we saved later that day I got saved like we gave our lives to Jesus uh right got gave our lives to Jesus uh right got gave our lives to Jesus uh right got called into Ministry like the whole deal called into Ministry like the whole deal called into Ministry like the whole deal all because Dana Arnold invited me to all because Dana Arnold invited me to all because Dana Arnold invited me to church but she invited me for two years church but she invited me for two years church but she invited me for two years so anyway that's my point on like the so anyway that's my point on like the so anyway that's my point on like the clicks when people were like 1100 people clicks when people were like 1100 people clicks when people were like 1100 people went to your website and only 13 of them went to your website and only 13 of them went to your website and only 13 of them plan to visit it's like yeah some people plan to visit it's like yeah some people plan to visit it's like yeah some people might take a little while they might not might take a little while they might not might take a little while they might not come the very first time right come the very first time right come the very first time right well and two the like the the plan your well and two the like the the plan your well and two the like the the plan your visit I mean do we know an average of visit I mean do we know an average of visit I mean do we know an average of like each plan your visit usually like each plan your visit usually like each plan your visit usually represents you know like a family or you represents you know like a family or you represents you know like a family or you know two and a half people kind of like know two and a half people kind of like know two and a half people kind of like a car coming into the parking lot you a car coming into the parking lot you a car coming into the parking lot you usually Factor about two and a half usually Factor about two and a half usually Factor about two and a half people per plan your visit is uh is it people per plan your visit is uh is it people per plan your visit is uh is it right around that yeah yeah number it's right around that yeah yeah number it's right around that yeah yeah number it's exactly the same so um so for us exactly the same so um so for us exactly the same so um so for us three people right National Lottery two three people right National Lottery two three people right National Lottery two and a half to three people uh just like and a half to three people uh just like and a half to three people uh just like you would count like a car or something you would count like a car or something you would count like a car or something like that and so you know because what's like that and so you know because what's like that and so you know because what's gonna happen is like sometimes we're gonna happen is like sometimes we're gonna happen is like sometimes we're gonna have like a college student who's

  36. gonna have like a college student who's gonna have like a college student who's visiting for the very first time uh visiting for the very first time uh visiting for the very first time uh right sometimes it's a family of six right sometimes it's a family of six right sometimes it's a family of six right so on average each player visits right so on average each player visits right so on average each player visits typically around three people so we know typically around three people so we know typically around three people so we know like okay if we have uh three planar like okay if we have uh three planar like okay if we have uh three planar visits for this Sunday that's those plan visits for this Sunday that's those plan visits for this Sunday that's those plan your business is probably going to your business is probably going to your business is probably going to account for about nine or ten people account for about nine or ten people account for about nine or ten people right so uh so that's that's that's kind right so uh so that's that's that's kind right so uh so that's that's that's kind of helpful uh to know that of helpful uh to know that of helpful uh to know that um and and I think here's here's what's um and and I think here's here's what's um and and I think here's here's what's cool too just like with the the numbers cool too just like with the the numbers cool too just like with the the numbers that we were just looking at right 1100 that we were just looking at right 1100 that we were just looking at right 1100 uh you know visitors to the website 13 uh you know visitors to the website 13 uh you know visitors to the website 13 planner visits right so if you do the planner visits right so if you do the planner visits right so if you do the math that means that every time uh like math that means that every time uh like math that means that every time uh like 84 people click on the ad go to the 84 people click on the ad go to the 84 people click on the ad go to the website they get a plan your visit right website they get a plan your visit right website they get a plan your visit right now here's here's why that's that's now here's here's why that's that's now here's here's why that's that's really really important is knowing that really really important is knowing that really really important is knowing that you can now reverse engineer how many in you can now reverse engineer how many in you can now reverse engineer how many in your visits you want to get every single your visits you want to get every single your visits you want to get every single Sunday right so this is this is like one Sunday right so this is this is like one Sunday right so this is this is like one of the best numbers anyone could ever of the best numbers anyone could ever of the best numbers anyone could ever figure out church right so let's let's figure out church right so let's let's figure out church right so let's let's just let's just say on average I'm gonna just let's just say on average I'm gonna just let's just say on average I'm gonna do a little bit of quick math here uh I do a little bit of quick math here uh I do a little bit of quick math here uh I got my trusty calculator we'll see see got my trusty calculator we'll see see got my trusty calculator we'll see see if we but just so let's let's just say if we but just so let's let's just say if we but just so let's let's just say that you don't do as good as them let's that you don't do as good as them let's that you don't do as good as them let's just say for you just say for you just say for you um it's uh it's every uh every 200 um it's uh it's every uh every 200 um it's uh it's every uh every 200 clicks you end up getting a planar visit clicks you end up getting a planar visit clicks you end up getting a planar visit right uh and uh and then let's say like right uh and uh and then let's say like right uh and uh and then let's say like you're getting clicks for 20 cents a you're getting clicks for 20 cents a you're getting clicks for 20 cents a piece okay so you know that 100 clicks piece okay so you know that 100 clicks piece okay so you know that 100 clicks times 20 cents right it's gonna be 20 times 20 cents right it's gonna be 20 times 20 cents right it's gonna be 20 bucks uh right so bucks uh right so bucks uh right so um uh so let's just make the Matthews um uh so let's just make the Matthews um uh so let's just make the Matthews and say 100 100 clicks right so every and say 100 100 clicks right so every and say 100 100 clicks right so every time you have 100 clicks uh right you're

  37. time you have 100 clicks uh right you're time you have 100 clicks uh right you're gonna spend 20 bucks and 20 cents a gonna spend 20 bucks and 20 cents a gonna spend 20 bucks and 20 cents a click and you're gonna get a plan your click and you're gonna get a plan your click and you're gonna get a plan your visit right so here's what's like so visit right so here's what's like so visit right so here's what's like so here's here's what's cool let's say you here's here's what's cool let's say you here's here's what's cool let's say you say okay we want to make sure that we say okay we want to make sure that we say okay we want to make sure that we have 10 plan your visits every single have 10 plan your visits every single have 10 plan your visits every single week right okay well you know that it's week right okay well you know that it's week right okay well you know that it's every 100 clicks on average you get a every 100 clicks on average you get a every 100 clicks on average you get a plan your visit and at 20 cents a piece plan your visit and at 20 cents a piece plan your visit and at 20 cents a piece all right cost you about 20 bucks to get all right cost you about 20 bucks to get all right cost you about 20 bucks to get 100 clicks and one plan your visit so 100 clicks and one plan your visit so 100 clicks and one plan your visit so you're just like okay well if we want 10 you're just like okay well if we want 10 you're just like okay well if we want 10 of those right then you just multiply uh of those right then you just multiply uh of those right then you just multiply uh times ten so we know okay and every week times ten so we know okay and every week times ten so we know okay and every week we're gonna spend 200 per week uh right we're gonna spend 200 per week uh right we're gonna spend 200 per week uh right and 200 bucks is gonna end up getting us and 200 bucks is gonna end up getting us and 200 bucks is gonna end up getting us uh was that 2 000 clicks uh did I just uh was that 2 000 clicks uh did I just uh was that 2 000 clicks uh did I just do this right I'm messing myself up do this right I'm messing myself up do this right I'm messing myself up there's a thousand click okay there's a thousand click okay there's a thousand click okay bugs we're gonna get a thousand clicks bugs we're gonna get a thousand clicks bugs we're gonna get a thousand clicks and that's gonna be about 10 playing and that's gonna be about 10 playing and that's gonna be about 10 playing your visits right which again is your visits right which again is your visits right which again is probably going to be about 30 new probably going to be about 30 new probably going to be about 30 new visitors right not everybody's going to visitors right not everybody's going to visitors right not everybody's going to be going for that maybe you're trying be going for that maybe you're trying be going for that maybe you're trying for three playing your business or five for three playing your business or five for three playing your business or five or whatever it is but that's my point is or whatever it is but that's my point is or whatever it is but that's my point is once you know okay on average every time once you know okay on average every time once you know okay on average every time 100 people click to our website we get a 100 people click to our website we get a 100 people click to our website we get a plan your visit right then you can do plan your visit right then you can do plan your visit right then you can do the math like uh on on your Facebook ad the math like uh on on your Facebook ad the math like uh on on your Facebook ad and you realize okay so we know every and you realize okay so we know every and you realize okay so we know every time we spend 20 bucks on Facebook on time we spend 20 bucks on Facebook on time we spend 20 bucks on Facebook on average we get a Facebook uh or you know average we get a Facebook uh or you know average we get a Facebook uh or you know we get a plan your visit so now you can we get a plan your visit so now you can we get a plan your visit so now you can just raise or lower your budget uh based just raise or lower your budget uh based just raise or lower your budget uh based on how many plan your visits you're on how many plan your visits you're on how many plan your visits you're trying to reverse engineer so really trying to reverse engineer so really trying to reverse engineer so really really really really fun stuff when checking into those fun stuff when checking into those fun stuff when checking into those numbers yeah yeah that that's super cool numbers yeah yeah that that's super cool numbers yeah yeah that that's super cool and for everybody watching you know we and for everybody watching you know we and for everybody watching you know we help churches know how to do those help churches know how to do those help churches know how to do those Facebook ads in fact we do boot camps

  38. Facebook ads in fact we do boot camps Facebook ads in fact we do boot camps for all of our grow churches for all of our grow churches for all of our grow churches um and help them walk through for the um and help them walk through for the um and help them walk through for the especially for the big events so like especially for the big events so like especially for the big events so like for Easter for Christmas the leading up for Easter for Christmas the leading up for Easter for Christmas the leading up to those events we we teach and do boot to those events we we teach and do boot to those events we we teach and do boot camps and we have um courses as well camps and we have um courses as well camps and we have um courses as well that teach on this but we do specific that teach on this but we do specific that teach on this but we do specific boot camps leading up to those big boot camps leading up to those big boot camps leading up to those big events saying okay here's what you need events saying okay here's what you need events saying okay here's what you need to do you know here's how you do this to do you know here's how you do this to do you know here's how you do this stuff we walk through actually how to stuff we walk through actually how to stuff we walk through actually how to build the ads all of that here's the build the ads all of that here's the build the ads all of that here's the plan your visit get it all set up so plan your visit get it all set up so plan your visit get it all set up so you're ready for those momentum moments you're ready for those momentum moments you're ready for those momentum moments in the in the calendar year really to in the in the calendar year really to in the in the calendar year really to make sure that you're taking advantage make sure that you're taking advantage make sure that you're taking advantage of it it's really what my buddy and I of it it's really what my buddy and I of it it's really what my buddy and I did where I was like okay man you're in did where I was like okay man you're in did where I was like okay man you're in your new place Easter's coming up like your new place Easter's coming up like your new place Easter's coming up like we gotta you gotta make sure you we gotta you gotta make sure you we gotta you gotta make sure you capitalize on this and dude I'm so glad capitalize on this and dude I'm so glad capitalize on this and dude I'm so glad that he said yes to that because he saw that he said yes to that because he saw that he said yes to that because he saw just massive massive results uh it was just massive massive results uh it was just massive massive results uh it was super cool so if you're interested in super cool so if you're interested in super cool so if you're interested in that um I want to encourage you the text that um I want to encourage you the text that um I want to encourage you the text uh free to that number right there uh uh free to that number right there uh uh free to that number right there uh plus you get access to our top 10 Church plus you get access to our top 10 Church plus you get access to our top 10 Church growth resources that we make available growth resources that we make available growth resources that we make available to the churches that text that free to the churches that text that free to the churches that text that free there to that number so there to that number so there to that number so um Chris anything else you would say um Chris anything else you would say um Chris anything else you would say about plan your visit anything else that about plan your visit anything else that about plan your visit anything else that you you want to um kind of put a a bow you you want to um kind of put a a bow you you want to um kind of put a a bow on this conversation uh the church on this conversation uh the church on this conversation uh the church leaders that are tuning in need to hear leaders that are tuning in need to hear leaders that are tuning in need to hear yeah yeah I I think um the the most yeah yeah I I think um the the most yeah yeah I I think um the the most important thing to to understand on this important thing to to understand on this important thing to to understand on this right is that right is that right is that so talk about ready fire aim earlier so talk about ready fire aim earlier so talk about ready fire aim earlier right like like the thing I just want to right like like the thing I just want to right like like the thing I just want to encourage uh churches because I know encourage uh churches because I know encourage uh churches because I know like when like I know because I've been like when like I know because I've been like when like I know because I've been I've been I've helped a bunch of I've been I've helped a bunch of I've been I've helped a bunch of churches um with plan your business and

  39. churches um with plan your business and churches um with plan your business and I know the biggest thing is everyone's I know the biggest thing is everyone's I know the biggest thing is everyone's like hey we want to do things with like hey we want to do things with like hey we want to do things with excellence right we want to honor God excellence right we want to honor God excellence right we want to honor God with Excellence we want to everything we with Excellence we want to everything we with Excellence we want to everything we do in our churches with excellence do in our churches with excellence do in our churches with excellence um and absolutely we need to like man we um and absolutely we need to like man we um and absolutely we need to like man we need to honor the gospel we need to need to honor the gospel we need to need to honor the gospel we need to honor the Lord and everything we need to honor the Lord and everything we need to honor the Lord and everything we need to do do do um is with Excellence however um is with Excellence however um is with Excellence however Excellence doesn't mean waiting three Excellence doesn't mean waiting three Excellence doesn't mean waiting three months and trying to get everything months and trying to get everything months and trying to get everything perfect right because there is no such perfect right because there is no such perfect right because there is no such thing as perfect and I think this is thing as perfect and I think this is thing as perfect and I think this is where a lot of people do this a lot of where a lot of people do this a lot of where a lot of people do this a lot of times the the this this idea of times the the this this idea of times the the this this idea of Excellence actually becomes an excuse Excellence actually becomes an excuse Excellence actually becomes an excuse that we hide behind to mask a fear of that we hide behind to mask a fear of that we hide behind to mask a fear of failure right so we're afraid it's like failure right so we're afraid it's like failure right so we're afraid it's like okay well what if we run Facebook ads okay well what if we run Facebook ads okay well what if we run Facebook ads still playing your visit page and nobody still playing your visit page and nobody still playing your visit page and nobody comes right like what if we waste 200 on comes right like what if we waste 200 on comes right like what if we waste 200 on Facebook and nobody comes right first Facebook and nobody comes right first Facebook and nobody comes right first off you wouldn't be wasting it that's off you wouldn't be wasting it that's off you wouldn't be wasting it that's still investing right in and planting still investing right in and planting still investing right in and planting that seed and inviting those people uh that seed and inviting those people uh that seed and inviting those people uh right even if nobody showed up but like right even if nobody showed up but like right even if nobody showed up but like but secondly right like I know people but secondly right like I know people but secondly right like I know people say oh what if we do this and it doesn't say oh what if we do this and it doesn't say oh what if we do this and it doesn't work like we did a lot of sudden it's work like we did a lot of sudden it's work like we did a lot of sudden it's just like nobody wants to come to church just like nobody wants to come to church just like nobody wants to come to church right well great right like like if that right well great right like like if that right well great right like like if that happens now you can actually take a look happens now you can actually take a look happens now you can actually take a look and say hey what part of this didn't and say hey what part of this didn't and say hey what part of this didn't work was it the Facebook ad right like work was it the Facebook ad right like work was it the Facebook ad right like and nobody's clicking on it or were we and nobody's clicking on it or were we and nobody's clicking on it or were we getting clicks and people going to the getting clicks and people going to the getting clicks and people going to the website uh but they weren't planning to website uh but they weren't planning to website uh but they weren't planning to visit right I mean was is it our page visit right I mean was is it our page visit right I mean was is it our page was was our website loading too slow was was our website loading too slow was was our website loading too slow right like but it can help uncover some right like but it can help uncover some right like but it can help uncover some other things along the way right like other things along the way right like other things along the way right like maybe maybe they're they're clicking on maybe maybe they're they're clicking on maybe maybe they're they're clicking on your ad they're going to uh the the page your ad they're going to uh the the page your ad they're going to uh the the page they're signing up for playing your they're signing up for playing your they're signing up for playing your business they're showing up to church business they're showing up to church business they're showing up to church but they're not coming back again right but they're not coming back again right but they're not coming back again right so okay let's let's take a look at our so okay let's let's take a look at our so okay let's let's take a look at our follow-up system follow-up system follow-up system um so there's a lot of different things um so there's a lot of different things um so there's a lot of different things here but you won't learn any of that here but you won't learn any of that here but you won't learn any of that stuff if you hide behind an excuse of

  40. stuff if you hide behind an excuse of stuff if you hide behind an excuse of excellence and again I fully like excellence and again I fully like excellence and again I fully like validate we need to do things with validate we need to do things with validate we need to do things with Excellence but don't use it as an excuse Excellence but don't use it as an excuse Excellence but don't use it as an excuse so sometimes the best things to do in so sometimes the best things to do in so sometimes the best things to do in order to be excellent is launching order to be excellent is launching order to be excellent is launching something that is imperfect right and something that is imperfect right and something that is imperfect right and those two like that's not like an those two like that's not like an those two like that's not like an oxymoron those are harmonious sometimes oxymoron those are harmonious sometimes oxymoron those are harmonious sometimes Excellence is launching something that's Excellence is launching something that's Excellence is launching something that's that's imperfect so done is better than that's imperfect so done is better than that's imperfect so done is better than perfect so the best thing you do is just perfect so the best thing you do is just perfect so the best thing you do is just launch right now that's why I talk about launch right now that's why I talk about launch right now that's why I talk about ready fire aim right just go launch ready fire aim right just go launch ready fire aim right just go launch Facebook ads uh you know and plan your Facebook ads uh you know and plan your Facebook ads uh you know and plan your visit and and here's what's going to visit and and here's what's going to visit and and here's what's going to happen is you're actually going to learn happen is you're actually going to learn happen is you're actually going to learn more about plan your visit the first one more about plan your visit the first one more about plan your visit the first one or two Sundays uh right then you then or two Sundays uh right then you then or two Sundays uh right then you then you will uh in in months of prep and and you will uh in in months of prep and and you will uh in in months of prep and and research right like you just launched research right like you just launched research right like you just launched plan your visit and then you realize oh plan your visit and then you realize oh plan your visit and then you realize oh you know what people were showing up on you know what people were showing up on you know what people were showing up on Sunday but we didn't have the host Sunday but we didn't have the host Sunday but we didn't have the host waiting for them at the front door they waiting for them at the front door they waiting for them at the front door they were actually in the back in coffee or were actually in the back in coffee or were actually in the back in coffee or whatever and so shoot we need to change whatever and so shoot we need to change whatever and so shoot we need to change that right like research wouldn't have that right like research wouldn't have that right like research wouldn't have uncovered that launching planners it uncovered that launching planners it uncovered that launching planners it will right so it's just like oh yeah will right so it's just like oh yeah will right so it's just like oh yeah like oh hey we found that man uh when like oh hey we found that man uh when like oh hey we found that man uh when they went into the service you know like they went into the service you know like they went into the service you know like all the only you know everyone had taken all the only you know everyone had taken all the only you know everyone had taken all the seats in the front that actually all the seats in the front that actually all the seats in the front that actually didn't happen in most churches right didn't happen in most churches right didn't happen in most churches right people yeah right but okay but you can people yeah right but okay but you can people yeah right but okay but you can fix all of that once you actually launch fix all of that once you actually launch fix all of that once you actually launch it but done is better than perfect if it but done is better than perfect if it but done is better than perfect if you want to be excellent Just Launch you want to be excellent Just Launch you want to be excellent Just Launch something that's imperfect get plenty of something that's imperfect get plenty of something that's imperfect get plenty of visit out there uh right and start visit out there uh right and start visit out there uh right and start hosting new people taking care of them hosting new people taking care of them hosting new people taking care of them and then uh man if you if you have and then uh man if you if you have and then uh man if you if you have friendly if you have a Friendly Church friendly if you have a Friendly Church friendly if you have a Friendly Church you're going to see your assimilation you're going to see your assimilation you're going to see your assimilation just Skyrocket because you're connecting just Skyrocket because you're connecting just Skyrocket because you're connecting with people with people with people man super good so good well I encourage man super good so good well I encourage man super good so good well I encourage you to take that to heart and again if

  41. you to take that to heart and again if you to take that to heart and again if you're I want to hear more about this you're I want to hear more about this you're I want to hear more about this and would also like to get access to our and would also like to get access to our and would also like to get access to our top 10 resources I'll put this up here top 10 resources I'll put this up here top 10 resources I'll put this up here you can text the the word free to the you can text the the word free to the you can text the the word free to the number there on the screen get get you number there on the screen get get you number there on the screen get get you access to those top 10 resources and access to those top 10 resources and access to those top 10 resources and also how you can learn more about plan also how you can learn more about plan also how you can learn more about plan your visit and be a part of our boot your visit and be a part of our boot your visit and be a part of our boot camps and all of that uh Chris dude camps and all of that uh Chris dude camps and all of that uh Chris dude thank you so much this was so good in thank you so much this was so good in thank you so much this was so good in fact I loved it because I learned some fact I loved it because I learned some fact I loved it because I learned some more about plan your visit again I'm more about plan your visit again I'm more about plan your visit again I'm kind of like captivated by that idea of kind of like captivated by that idea of kind of like captivated by that idea of starting the assimilation process starting the assimilation process starting the assimilation process earlier and that's what plan your visit earlier and that's what plan your visit earlier and that's what plan your visit does is it starts that relationship does is it starts that relationship does is it starts that relationship connection and that impacts them getting connection and that impacts them getting connection and that impacts them getting plugged in sooner and I never put the plugged in sooner and I never put the plugged in sooner and I never put the connection together when you I've heard connection together when you I've heard connection together when you I've heard that story of the impact it had on your that story of the impact it had on your that story of the impact it had on your church but like that's the reason why church but like that's the reason why church but like that's the reason why they were able to get plugged in within they were able to get plugged in within they were able to get plugged in within three weeks and doesn't take three three weeks and doesn't take three three weeks and doesn't take three months and the chance of them falling months and the chance of them falling months and the chance of them falling off in that three-month period is much off in that three-month period is much off in that three-month period is much higher then you can do it quickly and in higher then you can do it quickly and in higher then you can do it quickly and in in three weeks so love it brilliant so in three weeks so love it brilliant so in three weeks so love it brilliant so good good good um thanks again for everybody tuning in um thanks again for everybody tuning in um thanks again for everybody tuning in uh we're just gonna wrap this up here uh uh we're just gonna wrap this up here uh uh we're just gonna wrap this up here uh thanks for being a part and learning thanks for being a part and learning thanks for being a part and learning about playing your visit again if you'd about playing your visit again if you'd about playing your visit again if you'd like more information just uh text that like more information just uh text that like more information just uh text that that word free to the number there and that word free to the number there and that word free to the number there and we'll get you some resources it'll be we'll get you some resources it'll be we'll get you some resources it'll be great so thanks again Chris great so thanks again Chris great so thanks again Chris Brown yeah this is awesome all right Brown yeah this is awesome all right Brown yeah this is awesome all right we'll do it again okay awesome let's do we'll do it again okay awesome let's do we'll do it again okay awesome let's do it all right all right see ya see bro

Summary

This transcript focuses on church growth strategies, specifically how a new church attracted 21 first-time guests using a system involving Facebook ads. It highlights avoiding common mistakes that deter visitors and offers top church growth resources. The takeaway is to learn and implement effective methods for increasing church attendance.

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