Should Pastors Know How Much People Give to the Church?

so here is one of the most controversial so here is one of the most controversial questions about money that you can questions about money that you can questions about money that you can tackle in church leadership and the tackle in church leadership and the tackle in church leadership and the question is should the lead pastor know question is should the lead pastor know question is should the lead pastor know how much people give the church let's how much people give the church let's how much people give the church let's talk about talk about talk about [Music] [Music] [Music] it so let's start here people are split it so let's start here people are split it so let's start here people are split down the middle on this issue and they down the middle on this issue and they down the middle on this issue and they have very and let me underscore very have very and let me underscore very have very and let me underscore very animated opinions about it and in end animated opinions about it and in end animated opinions about it and in end you know what there's actually great you know what there's actually great you know what there's actually great arguments on both sides so in this video arguments on both sides so in this video arguments on both sides so in this video I want to share the pros and the cons of I want to share the pros and the cons of I want to share the pros and the cons of both viewpoints and then I'm going to both viewpoints and then I'm going to both viewpoints and then I'm going to tell you where I land personally you're tell you where I land personally you're tell you where I land personally you're probably not going to agree with me or probably not going to agree with me or probably not going to agree with me or some of you won't anyway so let's start some of you won't anyway so let's start some of you won't anyway so let's start with arguments against disclosure so with arguments against disclosure so with arguments against disclosure so maybe you're thinking like no way okay maybe you're thinking like no way okay maybe you're thinking like no way okay pastor should never get that kind of pastor should never get that kind of pastor should never get that kind of financial disclosure I get it you know financial disclosure I get it you know financial disclosure I get it you know what that's how I started out too there what that's how I started out too there what that's how I started out too there are some wonderful arguments on this are some wonderful arguments on this are some wonderful arguments on this side so for my first decade in side so for my first decade in side so for my first decade in leadership I literally had no clue who leadership I literally had no clue who leadership I literally had no clue who gave what I didn't want to know who gave gave what I didn't want to know who gave gave what I didn't want to know who gave what and I was kind of proud of it it's what and I was kind of proud of it it's what and I was kind of proud of it it's like you know what I don't have any like you know what I don't have any like you know what I don't have any disclosure I I wouldn't I wouldn't touch disclosure I I wouldn't I wouldn't touch disclosure I I wouldn't I wouldn't touch money and I didn't want any I wanted money and I didn't want any I wanted money and I didn't want any I wanted people to know that I didn't know so the people to know that I didn't know so the people to know that I didn't know so the only people at that time who really knew only people at that time who really knew only people at that time who really knew who gave what were the people who who gave what were the people who who gave what were the people who counted the offering and issued the counted the offering and issued the counted the offering and issued the income tax receipts at the end of the income tax receipts at the end of the income tax receipts at the end of the year and I thought that's exactly how it year and I thought that's exactly how it year and I thought that's exactly how it should be so then the question becomes should be so then the question becomes should be so then the question becomes well like why do people think that the well like why do people think that the well like why do people think that the pastor should have zero knowledge of

pastor should have zero knowledge of pastor should have zero knowledge of what people give there are some good what people give there are some good what people give there are some good arguments biblical too James for example arguments biblical too James for example arguments biblical too James for example writes about not favoring the rich and writes about not favoring the rich and writes about not favoring the rich and that's really important and probably one that's really important and probably one that's really important and probably one of the biggest dangers that you can run of the biggest dangers that you can run of the biggest dangers that you can run into if you get disclosure is like I'm into if you get disclosure is like I'm into if you get disclosure is like I'm going to start favoring rich people okay going to start favoring rich people okay going to start favoring rich people okay Jesus himself also said that the Widow Jesus himself also said that the Widow Jesus himself also said that the Widow who dropped in a single penny gave more who dropped in a single penny gave more who dropped in a single penny gave more than all the rich people ever did so you than all the rich people ever did so you than all the rich people ever did so you can't really assume that the size of the can't really assume that the size of the can't really assume that the size of the gift has anything to do with someone's gift has anything to do with someone's gift has anything to do with someone's generosity Paul also warns that the generosity Paul also warns that the generosity Paul also warns that the money is the root of all kinds of evil money is the root of all kinds of evil money is the root of all kinds of evil so I mean the biblical arguments can so I mean the biblical arguments can so I mean the biblical arguments can stack on this one and you would think stack on this one and you would think stack on this one and you would think okay open and shut case right pastors okay open and shut case right pastors okay open and shut case right pastors should never know who gives what but should never know who gives what but should never know who gives what but there's a counter side as I began to there's a counter side as I began to there's a counter side as I began to dive more deeply into building a dive more deeply into building a dive more deeply into building a generous culture at our church I got generous culture at our church I got generous culture at our church I got pretty convinced that there was another pretty convinced that there was another pretty convinced that there was another view because I had people challenge me view because I had people challenge me view because I had people challenge me so let's flip it and talk about so let's flip it and talk about so let's flip it and talk about arguments in favor and here's where we arguments in favor and here's where we arguments in favor and here's where we get into some Nuance thinking now it's get into some Nuance thinking now it's get into some Nuance thinking now it's very easy in a church context to want to very easy in a church context to want to very easy in a church context to want to treat everyone the same right so we say treat everyone the same right so we say treat everyone the same right so we say things like well we can't treat people things like well we can't treat people things like well we can't treat people differently because everybody's the same differently because everybody's the same differently because everybody's the same in God's eyes well that's true and it's in God's eyes well that's true and it's in God's eyes well that's true and it's excellent in many ways except that's not excellent in many ways except that's not excellent in many ways except that's not what Jesus did if you actually Look what what Jesus did if you actually Look what what Jesus did if you actually Look what Jesus did it is not what scripture Jesus did it is not what scripture Jesus did it is not what scripture counsels Jesus for example he would counsels Jesus for example he would counsels Jesus for example he would organize his disciples into circles organize his disciples into circles organize his disciples into circles according to potential impact so if you

according to potential impact so if you according to potential impact so if you study what he did he had groups of 70 study what he did he had groups of 70 study what he did he had groups of 70 well actually he had groups of like well actually he had groups of like well actually he had groups of like hundreds but we know for sure there were hundreds but we know for sure there were hundreds but we know for sure there were groups of 70 12 and three and then he groups of 70 12 and three and then he groups of 70 12 and three and then he had a group of one so the three were had a group of one so the three were had a group of one so the three were Peter James John and then Peter he spent Peter James John and then Peter he spent Peter James John and then Peter he spent extra time with and he spent intentional extra time with and he spent intentional extra time with and he spent intentional time with these different groups and time with these different groups and time with these different groups and treated them differently than the crowds treated them differently than the crowds treated them differently than the crowds why because he knew that they were going why because he knew that they were going why because he knew that they were going to have a lot of responsibility so to have a lot of responsibility so to have a lot of responsibility so that's something that Jesus did that's something that Jesus did that's something that Jesus did intentionally he did not treat everyone intentionally he did not treat everyone intentionally he did not treat everyone the same and then in the parable of the the same and then in the parable of the the same and then in the parable of the talents Jesus says that God gave some talents Jesus says that God gave some talents Jesus says that God gave some people one Talent other people two people one Talent other people two people one Talent other people two talents other people five talents and talents other people five talents and talents other people five talents and then based on what they did with those then based on what they did with those then based on what they did with those talents God removed the single Talent talents God removed the single Talent talents God removed the single Talent from one person gave it to the person from one person gave it to the person from one person gave it to the person with five that's hardly treating with five that's hardly treating with five that's hardly treating everyone the same so I mean you can everyone the same so I mean you can everyone the same so I mean you can start to see this is nuanced right so start to see this is nuanced right so start to see this is nuanced right so here's what underneath that loving here's what underneath that loving here's what underneath that loving everyone the same doesn't mean treating everyone the same doesn't mean treating everyone the same doesn't mean treating everyone the same way because some everyone the same way because some everyone the same way because some people are ready for more responsibility people are ready for more responsibility people are ready for more responsibility and that's true financially others are and that's true financially others are and that's true financially others are not it's true for volunteers it's true not it's true for volunteers it's true not it's true for volunteers it's true for all the other spiritual gifts it's for all the other spiritual gifts it's for all the other spiritual gifts it's also true for people who have the also true for people who have the also true for people who have the spiritual gift of giving I.E donors so spiritual gift of giving I.E donors so spiritual gift of giving I.E donors so there are some people in your church who there are some people in your church who there are some people in your church who actually have the spiritual gift of actually have the spiritual gift of actually have the spiritual gift of giving and some people in your church giving and some people in your church giving and some people in your church are going to be ready to give at levels are going to be ready to give at levels are going to be ready to give at levels they have never given before and some they have never given before and some they have never given before and some people who claim to be generous this is people who claim to be generous this is people who claim to be generous this is what I noticed well they're not and you

what I noticed well they're not and you what I noticed well they're not and you can't treat them all the same I had so can't treat them all the same I had so can't treat them all the same I had so many people come up to me it's like oh many people come up to me it's like oh many people come up to me it's like oh you know I'm so generous and I never you know I'm so generous and I never you know I'm so generous and I never knew until I got disclosure whether they knew until I got disclosure whether they knew until I got disclosure whether they were telling me the truth in fact I were telling me the truth in fact I were telling me the truth in fact I assumed they were telling me the truth assumed they were telling me the truth assumed they were telling me the truth turns out spoiler alert they were not um turns out spoiler alert they were not um turns out spoiler alert they were not um you just can't treat all people the same you just can't treat all people the same you just can't treat all people the same people have different needs different people have different needs different people have different needs different views and different levels of views and different levels of views and different levels of responsibility so you might think that responsibility so you might think that responsibility so you might think that playing favorites is not biblical but as playing favorites is not biblical but as playing favorites is not biblical but as we've seen treating people fairly we've seen treating people fairly we've seen treating people fairly doesn't actually mean treating everyone doesn't actually mean treating everyone doesn't actually mean treating everyone the same so here's a surprise for me not the same so here's a surprise for me not the same so here's a surprise for me not treating different people differently treating different people differently treating different people differently can actually make you unfaithful like by can actually make you unfaithful like by can actually make you unfaithful like by saying I don't I don't I see everybody saying I don't I don't I see everybody saying I don't I don't I see everybody exactly the same way I don't see any exactly the same way I don't see any exactly the same way I don't see any differences actually you could be differences actually you could be differences actually you could be unfaithful when you do that if someone unfaithful when you do that if someone unfaithful when you do that if someone has the gift of helps let them help if has the gift of helps let them help if has the gift of helps let them help if somebody has a gift of leadership let somebody has a gift of leadership let somebody has a gift of leadership let them lead not everyone's going to be them lead not everyone's going to be them lead not everyone's going to be leading all right but you're going to leading all right but you're going to leading all right but you're going to let the people with the gift of let the people with the gift of let the people with the gift of leadership lead if someone is the gift leadership lead if someone is the gift leadership lead if someone is the gift of teaching let them teach not of teaching let them teach not of teaching let them teach not everybody's going to teach right but if everybody's going to teach right but if everybody's going to teach right but if someone's really good at it you let them someone's really good at it you let them someone's really good at it you let them teach and that's not fair because not teach and that's not fair because not teach and that's not fair because not everybody got the microphone and if everybody got the microphone and if everybody got the microphone and if someone has the gift of giving then what someone has the gift of giving then what someone has the gift of giving then what do you do well you pour fuel on that and do you do well you pour fuel on that and do you do well you pour fuel on that and you let them give that's exactly what you let them give that's exactly what you let them give that's exactly what you do and somehow we've remove giving you do and somehow we've remove giving you do and somehow we've remove giving from the mix now I know a lot of you are from the mix now I know a lot of you are from the mix now I know a lot of you are like wait okay look you you're probably like wait okay look you you're probably like wait okay look you you're probably saying some people have the spiritual saying some people have the spiritual saying some people have the spiritual gift of giving and others don't what gift of giving and others don't what gift of giving and others don't what well everybody is called to give right I

well everybody is called to give right I well everybody is called to give right I would argue that we're even called to would argue that we're even called to would argue that we're even called to tithe that's another story for another tithe that's another story for another tithe that's another story for another day but some people have the spiritual day but some people have the spiritual day but some people have the spiritual gift of giving in the same way that gift of giving in the same way that gift of giving in the same way that others have the spiritual gift of wisdom others have the spiritual gift of wisdom others have the spiritual gift of wisdom or discernment and if you treat people or discernment and if you treat people or discernment and if you treat people with different gifts differently why with different gifts differently why with different gifts differently why would you make an exception for the gift would you make an exception for the gift would you make an exception for the gift of giving so that's a little bit of the of giving so that's a little bit of the of giving so that's a little bit of the argument that sort of changed my mind argument that sort of changed my mind argument that sort of changed my mind you can see where I'm going with this you can see where I'm going with this you can see where I'm going with this there's also this that after a decade in there's also this that after a decade in there's also this that after a decade in leadership here's what I also noticed I leadership here's what I also noticed I leadership here's what I also noticed I was getting a lot of I'm going to call was getting a lot of I'm going to call was getting a lot of I'm going to call it quote financial and Leadership advice it quote financial and Leadership advice it quote financial and Leadership advice from very vocal people who claim to be from very vocal people who claim to be from very vocal people who claim to be good givers they would tell me I'm so good givers they would tell me I'm so good givers they would tell me I'm so generous you know and then they would generous you know and then they would generous you know and then they would proceed to tell me exactly what I needed proceed to tell me exactly what I needed proceed to tell me exactly what I needed to do with the church and I noticed this to do with the church and I noticed this to do with the church and I noticed this pattern it's like people are telling me pattern it's like people are telling me pattern it's like people are telling me I'm such a tither I'm such a giver I'm a I'm such a tither I'm such a giver I'm a I'm such a tither I'm such a giver I'm a generous person and here's what you need generous person and here's what you need generous person and here's what you need to do do so the biggest complainers to do do so the biggest complainers to do do so the biggest complainers actually told me they were the biggest actually told me they were the biggest actually told me they were the biggest givers all right if I'm going to be givers all right if I'm going to be givers all right if I'm going to be really Direct that's what was going on really Direct that's what was going on really Direct that's what was going on the people who complained the most told the people who complained the most told the people who complained the most told me they gave the most and of course I me they gave the most and of course I me they gave the most and of course I had no way until then of knowing whether had no way until then of knowing whether had no way until then of knowing whether that was true I knew they were the that was true I knew they were the that was true I knew they were the biggest complainers I didn't know biggest complainers I didn't know biggest complainers I didn't know whether they were the biggest givers and whether they were the biggest givers and whether they were the biggest givers and that probably is a challenge for some of that probably is a challenge for some of that probably is a challenge for some of you watching this right now you're like you watching this right now you're like you watching this right now you're like yeah I get a lot of complaints I don't yeah I get a lot of complaints I don't yeah I get a lot of complaints I don't know what these people give at the same know what these people give at the same know what these people give at the same time I realized if we were going to time I realized if we were going to time I realized if we were going to build campuses and truly fund our build campuses and truly fund our build campuses and truly fund our mission fully I needed to cast a vision mission fully I needed to cast a vision mission fully I needed to cast a vision to high-capacity donors and I had no to high-capacity donors and I had no to high-capacity donors and I had no idea who they were so after a lot of

idea who they were so after a lot of idea who they were so after a lot of discussion and prayer and reflection and discussion and prayer and reflection and discussion and prayer and reflection and talking to our board I asked for talking to our board I asked for talking to our board I asked for financial disclosure and they gave it to financial disclosure and they gave it to financial disclosure and they gave it to me so I was nervous all right and here me so I was nervous all right and here me so I was nervous all right and here are the questions I was asking myself am are the questions I was asking myself am are the questions I was asking myself am I going to play favorites cuz I know I going to play favorites cuz I know I going to play favorites cuz I know what the Bible says about that would I what the Bible says about that would I what the Bible says about that would I become biased and only talk to the become biased and only talk to the become biased and only talk to the people who gave the most did I actually people who gave the most did I actually people who gave the most did I actually have the character to handle the have the character to handle the have the character to handle the information I was about to get and I information I was about to get and I information I was about to get and I would suggest you need to ask yourself would suggest you need to ask yourself would suggest you need to ask yourself the same questions because if you're the same questions because if you're the same questions because if you're really excited to get this data you really excited to get this data you really excited to get this data you might not be the right person to get the might not be the right person to get the might not be the right person to get the data if you're like let me get my hands data if you're like let me get my hands data if you're like let me get my hands on that probably the wrong person but I on that probably the wrong person but I on that probably the wrong person but I was nervous all right these are really was nervous all right these are really was nervous all right these are really big questions you need to ask the big questions you need to ask the big questions you need to ask the questions nothing prepared me however questions nothing prepared me however questions nothing prepared me however for what I saw when I got full for what I saw when I got full for what I saw when I got full disclosure so I still remember the day disclosure so I still remember the day disclosure so I still remember the day I saw the first spreadsheet and when I I saw the first spreadsheet and when I I saw the first spreadsheet and when I looked at it I called my executive looked at it I called my executive looked at it I called my executive pastor and I said hey there's a mistake pastor and I said hey there's a mistake pastor and I said hey there's a mistake with this spreadsheet there are at least with this spreadsheet there are at least with this spreadsheet there are at least five people I can think of off the top five people I can think of off the top five people I can think of off the top of my head who say that they give big to of my head who say that they give big to of my head who say that they give big to this church they're not on the list so this church they're not on the list so this church they're not on the list so you've made a mistake right and he you've made a mistake right and he you've made a mistake right and he looked at all the data and he said to me looked at all the data and he said to me looked at all the data and he said to me there's no mistake they're they're not there's no mistake they're they're not there's no mistake they're they're not telling you the truth I was shocked all telling you the truth I was shocked all telling you the truth I was shocked all right so then I said look then our whole right so then I said look then our whole right so then I said look then our whole system is defective our list is system is defective our list is system is defective our list is effective right maybe the cut off for effective right maybe the cut off for effective right maybe the cut off for who's on this list is too low and he who's on this list is too low and he who's on this list is too low and he looked at me and he looked at the raw looked at me and he looked at the raw looked at me and he looked at the raw data again and he said data again and he said data again and he said look if they worked at McDonald's and

look if they worked at McDonald's and look if they worked at McDonald's and they made minimum wage and they tithed they made minimum wage and they tithed they made minimum wage and they tithed they would be on the list their giving they would be on the list their giving they would be on the list their giving is below that well that blew me away is below that well that blew me away is below that well that blew me away because these people were business because these people were business because these people were business owners they were successful and they're owners they were successful and they're owners they were successful and they're saying they tithe they're not even given saying they tithe they're not even given saying they tithe they're not even given what you would give if you made minimum what you would give if you made minimum what you would give if you made minimum wage at McDonald's I was crestfallen wage at McDonald's I was crestfallen wage at McDonald's I was crestfallen some of these people were really some of these people were really some of these people were really successful and I had no other conclusion successful and I had no other conclusion successful and I had no other conclusion that they weren't telling me the truth that they weren't telling me the truth that they weren't telling me the truth and then what I saw next also shocked me and then what I saw next also shocked me and then what I saw next also shocked me among the top 20 givers to our church among the top 20 givers to our church among the top 20 givers to our church were people I didn't know I had no idea were people I didn't know I had no idea were people I didn't know I had no idea who these people were I didn't recognize who these people were I didn't recognize who these people were I didn't recognize the names and and they were being super the names and and they were being super the names and and they were being super generous so I didn't even know who they generous so I didn't even know who they generous so I didn't even know who they were so then I ask myself okay well how were so then I ask myself okay well how were so then I ask myself okay well how can I possibly as a lead Pastor be can I possibly as a lead Pastor be can I possibly as a lead Pastor be devoting so much time to people who devoting so much time to people who devoting so much time to people who weren't financially invested and yet I weren't financially invested and yet I weren't financially invested and yet I don't even know the names of some of the don't even know the names of some of the don't even know the names of some of the most invested people there's a mistake most invested people there's a mistake most invested people there's a mistake with that and that's when I learned this with that and that's when I learned this with that and that's when I learned this principle the people who complain the principle the people who complain the principle the people who complain the most often give the least and the people most often give the least and the people most often give the least and the people who give the most almost never complain who give the most almost never complain who give the most almost never complain in fact they're almost always your in fact they're almost always your in fact they're almost always your biggest cheerleaders right they're the biggest cheerleaders right they're the biggest cheerleaders right they're the mission's biggest supporters they're the mission's biggest supporters they're the mission's biggest supporters they're the ones sending you emails going hey this ones sending you emails going hey this ones sending you emails going hey this is awesome way to go so that opened up a is awesome way to go so that opened up a is awesome way to go so that opened up a whole new era for us as a church and as whole new era for us as a church and as whole new era for us as a church and as we learn to lean into people with the we learn to lean into people with the we learn to lean into people with the gift of giving we help them fuel the gift of giving we help them fuel the gift of giving we help them fuel the gift that God had given them so if gift that God had given them so if gift that God had given them so if you're looking for some help with this you're looking for some help with this you're looking for some help with this I've got a step-by-step plan that will

I've got a step-by-step plan that will I've got a step-by-step plan that will help you honor your top donors and help you honor your top donors and help you honor your top donors and invite new donors to give to your invite new donors to give to your invite new donors to give to your mission you can check it out it's module mission you can check it out it's module mission you can check it out it's module two in my course the art of building a two in my course the art of building a two in my course the art of building a generous congregation the course has generous congregation the course has generous congregation the course has proven methods it's got strategies to proven methods it's got strategies to proven methods it's got strategies to inspire giving to create a culture of inspire giving to create a culture of inspire giving to create a culture of generosity and to grow your Church's generosity and to grow your Church's generosity and to grow your Church's impact now one more objection so you impact now one more objection so you impact now one more objection so you might you know you listen watch this might you know you listen watch this might you know you listen watch this whole thing and you're like I'm not whole thing and you're like I'm not whole thing and you're like I'm not fully convinced you may think okay fully convinced you may think okay fully convinced you may think okay someone in leadership should have full someone in leadership should have full someone in leadership should have full disclosure but why the lead Pastor like disclosure but why the lead Pastor like disclosure but why the lead Pastor like why the top person well here's the why the top person well here's the why the top person well here's the principle you have a hundred or a principle you have a hundred or a principle you have a hundred or a thousand voices chirping in your ear thousand voices chirping in your ear thousand voices chirping in your ear telling you what to do if you're the telling you what to do if you're the telling you what to do if you're the senior pastor they all claim to be valid senior pastor they all claim to be valid senior pastor they all claim to be valid but now you know that the people who but now you know that the people who but now you know that the people who complain the most give the least and the complain the most give the least and the complain the most give the least and the people who complain the least often give people who complain the least often give people who complain the least often give the most so this knowledge is going to the most so this knowledge is going to the most so this knowledge is going to help you filter the choices so you can help you filter the choices so you can help you filter the choices so you can make better decisions you've only got so make better decisions you've only got so make better decisions you've only got so much time you've only got so much energy much time you've only got so much energy much time you've only got so much energy you will make better decisions if you you will make better decisions if you you will make better decisions if you know who to listen to most and I've got know who to listen to most and I've got know who to listen to most and I've got a two-part filter that I run everything a two-part filter that I run everything a two-part filter that I run everything through as a leader when I'm processing through as a leader when I'm processing through as a leader when I'm processing all the voices in my head first I ask is all the voices in my head first I ask is all the voices in my head first I ask is there a Biblical argument in what the there a Biblical argument in what the there a Biblical argument in what the person is saying and if so person is saying and if so person is saying and if so I got to listen right and if not it's I got to listen right and if not it's I got to listen right and if not it's probably about preferences not about probably about preferences not about probably about preferences not about biblical principles so number one even biblical principles so number one even biblical principles so number one even if it's a Critic even if it's somebody if it's a Critic even if it's somebody if it's a Critic even if it's somebody who doesn't give a lot of money is there who doesn't give a lot of money is there who doesn't give a lot of money is there a Biblical argument in what they're a Biblical argument in what they're a Biblical argument in what they're saying if it is I got to listen second

saying if it is I got to listen second saying if it is I got to listen second in the answer to that first question is in the answer to that first question is in the answer to that first question is usually no because it's usually the usually no because it's usually the usually no because it's usually the arguments about preferences not arguments about preferences not arguments about preferences not principles then the second thing is is principles then the second thing is is principles then the second thing is is this the kind of person we can build the this the kind of person we can build the this the kind of person we can build the future of the church on and if not you future of the church on and if not you future of the church on and if not you thank them and you let it go but if this thank them and you let it go but if this thank them and you let it go but if this is the kind of person you can build the is the kind of person you can build the is the kind of person you can build the future of the church on then you got to future of the church on then you got to future of the church on then you got to listen up right and when someone is listen up right and when someone is listen up right and when someone is heavily invested they're the kind of heavily invested they're the kind of heavily invested they're the kind of person who will help you lead into the person who will help you lead into the person who will help you lead into the future after all you could be wrong you future after all you could be wrong you future after all you could be wrong you do not have a monopoly on wisdom so the do not have a monopoly on wisdom so the do not have a monopoly on wisdom so the question then is should you get full question then is should you get full question then is should you get full disclosure how do you know what the disclosure how do you know what the disclosure how do you know what the right decision is how do you know right decision is how do you know right decision is how do you know whether you should get full disclosure whether you should get full disclosure whether you should get full disclosure well I think one of the factors has to well I think one of the factors has to well I think one of the factors has to be your attitude toward the information be your attitude toward the information be your attitude toward the information you might get you might get you might get if as I said earlier you can't wait to if as I said earlier you can't wait to if as I said earlier you can't wait to see the list you're going to think about see the list you're going to think about see the list you're going to think about how you're going to court your top how you're going to court your top how you're going to court your top donors penalize the people who don't donors penalize the people who don't donors penalize the people who don't give much you're not ready for give much you're not ready for give much you're not ready for disclosure it's not the right move for disclosure it's not the right move for disclosure it's not the right move for you on the other hand if you're a little you on the other hand if you're a little you on the other hand if you're a little bit nervous about it if you're worried bit nervous about it if you're worried bit nervous about it if you're worried that it might require a certain level that it might require a certain level that it might require a certain level Integrity that you're not sure that Integrity that you're not sure that Integrity that you're not sure that you've got well you might be ready right you've got well you might be ready right you've got well you might be ready right people who think that they have Stellar people who think that they have Stellar people who think that they have Stellar character are rarely the people who have character are rarely the people who have character are rarely the people who have Stellar character and the people who Stellar character and the people who Stellar character and the people who worry about it usually they're the worry about it usually they're the worry about it usually they're the people who can be trusted second there's people who can be trusted second there's people who can be trusted second there's a great verse in the Bible that guides a great verse in the Bible that guides a great verse in the Bible that guides me when matters aren't clear and in this me when matters aren't clear and in this me when matters aren't clear and in this case I think it could apply Paul writes case I think it could apply Paul writes case I think it could apply Paul writes that everything that is not from faith that everything that is not from faith that everything that is not from faith is sin so if you can't gain disclosure

is sin so if you can't gain disclosure is sin so if you can't gain disclosure in faith don't get it like if you can't in faith don't get it like if you can't in faith don't get it like if you can't do this as a matter of faith and trus in do this as a matter of faith and trus in do this as a matter of faith and trus in God then you're not ready don't do it God then you're not ready don't do it God then you're not ready don't do it finally you will want the input of your finally you will want the input of your finally you will want the input of your board this isn't an administrative board this isn't an administrative board this isn't an administrative decision you just send an email I want decision you just send an email I want decision you just send an email I want disclosure you get it you want to submit disclosure you get it you want to submit disclosure you get it you want to submit yourself to your board to your governing yourself to your board to your governing yourself to your board to your governing elders and let them speak into whether elders and let them speak into whether elders and let them speak into whether they think you're ready so those are the they think you're ready so those are the they think you're ready so those are the arguments pro and con I personally think arguments pro and con I personally think arguments pro and con I personally think it's a great thing for pastors who have it's a great thing for pastors who have it's a great thing for pastors who have the right character and attitude and the right character and attitude and the right character and attitude and integrity to gain access because it'll integrity to gain access because it'll integrity to gain access because it'll help you lead better but now at least help you lead better but now at least help you lead better but now at least for yourself you know the pros and cons for yourself you know the pros and cons for yourself you know the pros and cons of disclosure and non-disclosure and of disclosure and non-disclosure and of disclosure and non-disclosure and whatever decision is right for you whatever decision is right for you whatever decision is right for you make it and embrace it