John Crist Gets Honest: Are We Too Critical of the Church?

I go, man, if if this one doesn't uh if I go, man, if if this one doesn't uh if this one doesn't go, I think I got to this one doesn't go, I think I got to this one doesn't go, I think I got to It makes me emotional to to say it. I It makes me emotional to to say it. I It makes me emotional to to say it. I go, if this one doesn't go, I think I'm go, if this one doesn't go, I think I'm go, if this one doesn't go, I think I'm uh uh uh think it's not for me. think it's not for me. think it's not for me. >> Welcome to the Carrie New Huff >> Welcome to the Carrie New Huff >> Welcome to the Carrie New Huff Leadership Podcast. I'm so glad you Leadership Podcast. I'm so glad you Leadership Podcast. I'm so glad you joined us today, man. I had so much fun joined us today, man. I had so much fun joined us today, man. I had so much fun interviewing John Chris. It's his second interviewing John Chris. It's his second interviewing John Chris. It's his second time on the podcast. He's actually one time on the podcast. He's actually one time on the podcast. He's actually one of our most downloaded episodes ever. of our most downloaded episodes ever. of our most downloaded episodes ever. Um, last time I sat down with John, he Um, last time I sat down with John, he Um, last time I sat down with John, he opened up about being cancelled, his opened up about being cancelled, his opened up about being cancelled, his journey through rehab, and I really want journey through rehab, and I really want journey through rehab, and I really want to encourage you to listen to that or to encourage you to listen to that or to encourage you to listen to that or watch it on YouTube. And today we catch watch it on YouTube. And today we catch watch it on YouTube. And today we catch up and talk about everything that's up and talk about everything that's up and talk about everything that's happened since, including getting the happened since, including getting the happened since, including getting the Tonight Show, what he thinks is right Tonight Show, what he thinks is right Tonight Show, what he thinks is right and wrong with the church today, where and wrong with the church today, where and wrong with the church today, where comedy is going, and a whole lot more. comedy is going, and a whole lot more. comedy is going, and a whole lot more. So, welcome to the podcast. Hope our So, welcome to the podcast. Hope our So, welcome to the podcast. Hope our time together today helps you thrive in time together today helps you thrive in time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership. If you're new here, life and leadership. If you're new here, life and leadership. If you're new here, welcome. We have a lot of young welcome. We have a lot of young welcome. We have a lot of young listeners listening. We love young listeners listening. We love young listeners listening. We love young leaders and uh if this episode means leaders and uh if this episode means leaders and uh if this episode means something to you, it would mean the something to you, it would mean the something to you, it would mean the world to me if you left a rating and world to me if you left a rating and world to me if you left a rating and review wherever you're watching and review wherever you're watching and review wherever you're watching and maybe drop a comment as well. We'd maybe drop a comment as well. We'd maybe drop a comment as well. We'd really appreciate that. So, John Christ really appreciate that. So, John Christ really appreciate that. So, John Christ is one of today's fast rising stand-up is one of today's fast rising stand-up is one of today's fast rising stand-up comedians with more than 1 billion video comedians with more than 1 billion video comedians with more than 1 billion video views, over 7 million fans on social views, over 7 million fans on social views, over 7 million fans on social media, and soldout shows from coast to media, and soldout shows from coast to media, and soldout shows from coast to coast. John also hosts his own weekly coast. John also hosts his own weekly coast. John also hosts his own weekly podcast called Net Positive. I was a podcast called Net Positive. I was a podcast called Net Positive. I was a guest on that and we'll link to that in guest on that and we'll link to that in guest on that and we'll link to that in the show notes as well. So without the show notes as well. So without the show notes as well. So without further ado, my conversation with the

further ado, my conversation with the further ado, my conversation with the one and only John Christ. John, I've one and only John Christ. John, I've one and only John Christ. John, I've been looking forward to this. Welcome been looking forward to this. Welcome been looking forward to this. Welcome back, back, back, >> man. I'm back. Have you been looking >> man. I'm back. Have you been looking >> man. I'm back. Have you been looking forward to this? forward to this? forward to this? >> Oh yeah. Well, the first since the first >> Oh yeah. Well, the first since the first >> Oh yeah. Well, the first since the first one. I mean, it was really a it was one. I mean, it was really a it was one. I mean, it was really a it was really a it was really a miracle that I really a it was really a miracle that I really a it was really a miracle that I I always tell people that all the time. I always tell people that all the time. I always tell people that all the time. I go I go I go I wouldn't probably do a a podcast like I wouldn't probably do a a podcast like I wouldn't probably do a a podcast like now we're friends. now we're friends. now we're friends. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But at the beginning I was like I would >> But at the beginning I was like I would >> But at the beginning I was like I would never do a podcast like that. But I go never do a podcast like that. But I go never do a podcast like that. But I go >> first of all we're in Peter Burrow >> first of all we're in Peter Burrow >> first of all we're in Peter Burrow Ontario Ontario Ontario >> shout out Peter Burrow. >> shout out Peter Burrow. >> shout out Peter Burrow. >> Yeah. So you go we get this request to >> Yeah. So you go we get this request to >> Yeah. So you go we get this request to do a podcast and I think it was it do a podcast and I think it was it do a podcast and I think it was it wasn't I go I'm doing nothing up there wasn't I go I'm doing nothing up there wasn't I go I'm doing nothing up there and I was like man I should do that for and I was like man I should do that for and I was like man I should do that for my podcast. Like go like Taylor Swift my podcast. Like go like Taylor Swift my podcast. Like go like Taylor Swift you were like I can't get her in you were like I can't get her in you were like I can't get her in Nashville but you're like I'm in Nashville but you're like I'm in Nashville but you're like I'm in Manitoba. You're like, "You are? Well, Manitoba. You're like, "You are? Well, Manitoba. You're like, "You are? Well, we'll do the pot." You know what I'm we'll do the pot." You know what I'm we'll do the pot." You know what I'm saying? saying? saying? >> Manitoba's biggest podcast. You're like, >> Manitoba's biggest podcast. You're like, >> Manitoba's biggest podcast. You're like, >> or you know what I'm saying? Like >> or you know what I'm saying? Like >> or you know what I'm saying? Like >> I do >> I do >> I do >> if you want to do a >> if you want to do a >> if you want to do a see find the find the touring artist's see find the find the touring artist's see find the find the touring artist's most remote most remote most remote tour stop and then say we do a podcast tour stop and then say we do a podcast tour stop and then say we do a podcast out of there and then he's more likely out of there and then he's more likely out of there and then he's more likely to probably do it.

to probably do it. to probably do it. >> So we did we shout out to the church >> So we did we shout out to the church >> So we did we shout out to the church that we were able to rent as our studio. that we were able to rent as our studio. that we were able to rent as our studio. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, >> that was a big moment for you, wasn't >> that was a big moment for you, wasn't >> that was a big moment for you, wasn't it? it? it? >> Your podcast. >> Your podcast. >> Your podcast. >> Well, no, no, no. That era of your life. >> Well, no, no, no. That era of your life. >> Well, no, no, no. That era of your life. Yeah. Being on my show was a really big Yeah. Being on my show was a really big Yeah. Being on my show was a really big deal, wasn't it? Wasn't it, John? That deal, wasn't it? Wasn't it, John? That deal, wasn't it? Wasn't it, John? That was a big Oh, I like to was a big Oh, I like to was a big Oh, I like to um um um like in my in my live show like when I like in my in my live show like when I like in my in my live show like when I started I was talking about you know started I was talking about you know started I was talking about you know like youth group and you know meeting like youth group and you know meeting like youth group and you know meeting girls at youth group and then I kind of girls at youth group and then I kind of girls at youth group and then I kind of moved on to like I live in LA and dating moved on to like I live in LA and dating moved on to like I live in LA and dating in LA and then I started talking about in LA and then I started talking about in LA and then I started talking about uh you know like I started uh you know like I started uh you know like I started paying taxes and a lot of taxes and then paying taxes and a lot of taxes and then paying taxes and a lot of taxes and then I started to have feelings about the I started to have feelings about the I started to have feelings about the government. And then I got uh in a government. And then I got uh in a government. And then I got uh in a relationship and my parents are aging relationship and my parents are aging relationship and my parents are aging and now I have nieces and nephews. Like and now I have nieces and nephews. Like and now I have nieces and nephews. Like if you follow my if you follow my if you follow my journey like what I what I was dealing journey like what I what I was dealing journey like what I what I was dealing with in my life back then versus now with in my life back then versus now with in my life back then versus now is different. It is different. Wildly is different. It is different. Wildly is different. It is different. Wildly different. So you say, "Do you want to different. So you say, "Do you want to different. So you say, "Do you want to edit?" That's I mean, you didn't ask edit?" That's I mean, you didn't ask edit?" That's I mean, you didn't ask that, but the first time, "Do you want that, but the first time, "Do you want that, but the first time, "Do you want to edit this or do you want to change?"

to edit this or do you want to change?" to edit this or do you want to change?" Like, "No, because that's what that's Like, "No, because that's what that's Like, "No, because that's what that's where I was then." And some of that where I was then." And some of that where I was then." And some of that stuff I probably don't stuff I probably don't stuff I probably don't align with as closely. align with as closely. align with as closely. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> But that's where I was then. And this is >> But that's where I was then. And this is >> But that's where I was then. And this is where I am now. And then I mean, you we where I am now. And then I mean, you we where I am now. And then I mean, you we just talked about you've had guests six, just talked about you've had guests six, just talked about you've had guests six, seven, eight times. seven, eight times. seven, eight times. >> That's what I like. I like the the >> That's what I like. I like the the >> That's what I like. I like the the layers to guess cuz you're like, "Well, layers to guess cuz you're like, "Well, layers to guess cuz you're like, "Well, seven times. What is her left talk?" seven times. What is her left talk?" seven times. What is her left talk?" >> Yeah. It should be if you're living if >> Yeah. It should be if you're living if >> Yeah. It should be if you're living if it should be new every time. it should be new every time. it should be new every time. >> You don't do that with your friends, >> You don't do that with your friends, >> You don't do that with your friends, right? It's like we've seen you seven right? It's like we've seen you seven right? It's like we've seen you seven times, so that's enough. times, so that's enough. times, so that's enough. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> See them every day. >> See them every day. >> See them every day. >> No, you know, the the episode really >> No, you know, the the episode really >> No, you know, the the episode really took off. It might be our most took off. It might be our most took off. It might be our most downloaded, listened to, watched episode downloaded, listened to, watched episode downloaded, listened to, watched episode ever. Um, and it just took off. You were ever. Um, and it just took off. You were ever. Um, and it just took off. You were so transparent. You were so open. And I so transparent. You were so open. And I so transparent. You were so open. And I really appreciate that. And like you really appreciate that. And like you really appreciate that. And like you said, I always give guests the said, I always give guests the said, I always give guests the opportunity to edit anything out that opportunity to edit anything out that opportunity to edit anything out that they're not going to want on the they're not going to want on the they're not going to want on the internet, but you internet, but you internet, but you >> we'll say it for the record that we >> we'll say it for the record that we >> we'll say it for the record that we didn't. didn't. didn't. >> We did not. That was that was uncut.

>> We did not. That was that was uncut. >> We did not. That was that was uncut. >> I don't think we did. >> I don't think we did. >> I don't think we did. >> And and I'll I'll shout out your book >> And and I'll I'll shout out your book >> And and I'll I'll shout out your book again, delete that, which I think again, delete that, which I think again, delete that, which I think >> every single church leader should read >> every single church leader should read >> every single church leader should read >> and you're just so transparent about it. >> and you're just so transparent about it. >> and you're just so transparent about it. So that's that's incredible. You have So that's that's incredible. You have So that's that's incredible. You have some big moments in the last some big moments in the last some big moments in the last >> two years. Uh this year >> two years. Uh this year >> two years. Uh this year >> because of your pot. >> because of your pot. >> because of your pot. >> Because of my pot. That's right. That's >> Because of my pot. That's right. That's >> Because of my pot. That's right. That's right. I will take all the credit. right. I will take all the credit. right. I will take all the credit. >> No. Um the Tonight Show, dude. >> No. Um the Tonight Show, dude. >> No. Um the Tonight Show, dude. >> Yeah. In June we did the Tonight Show. >> Yeah. In June we did the Tonight Show. >> Yeah. In June we did the Tonight Show. >> Yeah. So that >> Yeah. So that >> Yeah. So that >> that is such like I mean I don't know >> that is such like I mean I don't know >> that is such like I mean I don't know how long the Tonight Show's been going. how long the Tonight Show's been going. how long the Tonight Show's been going. Long before I was born. Long before I was born. Long before I was born. >> Long before Yeah. And we'll be going >> Long before Yeah. And we'll be going >> Long before Yeah. And we'll be going when we're off the off this planet. when we're off the off this planet. when we're off the off this planet. >> Somebody will take over for Fallon one >> Somebody will take over for Fallon one >> Somebody will take over for Fallon one day. day. day. >> Walk us through that. Like what is it >> Walk us through that. Like what is it >> Walk us through that. Like what is it like to be on the Tonight Show? like to be on the Tonight Show? like to be on the Tonight Show? >> Well, for every comedian, I think it's >> Well, for every comedian, I think it's >> Well, for every comedian, I think it's your it's your Super Bowl. Like a music your it's your Super Bowl. Like a music your it's your Super Bowl. Like a music artist can do the Tonight Show, but artist can do the Tonight Show, but artist can do the Tonight Show, but that's not Tonight Show's comedy. Yeah. that's not Tonight Show's comedy. Yeah. that's not Tonight Show's comedy. Yeah. >> Like to for you know, Aver Lavine or for >> Like to for you know, Aver Lavine or for >> Like to for you know, Aver Lavine or for whatever like I got the Tonight Show whatever like I got the Tonight Show whatever like I got the Tonight Show like Well, that Yeah. It's not It's not like Well, that Yeah. It's not It's not like Well, that Yeah. It's not It's not what it what it what it >> It's not similar for a comedian to do >> It's not similar for a comedian to do >> It's not similar for a comedian to do it. Maybe it would be like the Yeah.

it. Maybe it would be like the Yeah. it. Maybe it would be like the Yeah. getting the singing the national anthem getting the singing the national anthem getting the singing the national anthem at the Super Bowl or the half. That at the Super Bowl or the half. That at the Super Bowl or the half. That would be like the pinnacle for a music would be like the pinnacle for a music would be like the pinnacle for a music artist. Yeah. Yeah, I think the Super artist. Yeah. Yeah, I think the Super artist. Yeah. Yeah, I think the Super Bowl halftime Bowl halftime Bowl halftime for the for a comedian would be the for the for a comedian would be the for the for a comedian would be the Tonight Show and that Yeah. Tonight Show and that Yeah. Tonight Show and that Yeah. >> And it you we all >> And it you we all >> And it you we all grew I when I was young and my dad asked grew I when I was young and my dad asked grew I when I was young and my dad asked me one time, I mean I was I wasn't I was me one time, I mean I was I wasn't I was me one time, I mean I was I wasn't I was probably probably probably 13. He goes, "What do you want to do for 13. He goes, "What do you want to do for 13. He goes, "What do you want to do for your what do you want to do for a your what do you want to do for a your what do you want to do for a living? What would you like to do for a living? What would you like to do for a living? What would you like to do for a job?" And I said, "I want to be Jay job?" And I said, "I want to be Jay job?" And I said, "I want to be Jay Leno." Cuz I remember we didn't have a Leno." Cuz I remember we didn't have a Leno." Cuz I remember we didn't have a TV growing up. Okay. TV growing up. Okay. TV growing up. Okay. And I would uh we either went somewhere And I would uh we either went somewhere And I would uh we either went somewhere and I had seen standup comedy, but I I I and I had seen standup comedy, but I I I and I had seen standup comedy, but I I I didn't know that that was like a job, didn't know that that was like a job, didn't know that that was like a job, but you know what I'm saying? I I didn't but you know what I'm saying? I I didn't but you know what I'm saying? I I didn't imagine that was like a imagine that was like a imagine that was like a >> and I said I remember watching and he he >> and I said I remember watching and he he >> and I said I remember watching and he he was talking about what happened that was talking about what happened that was talking about what happened that day. You know, they talk about what day. You know, they talk about what day. You know, they talk about what happened. happened. happened. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the narrative. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the narrative. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the narrative. >> And I go, >> And I go, >> And I go, "So, hold on." I mean, I'm 12. I go, "So "So, hold on." I mean, I'm 12. I go, "So "So, hold on." I mean, I'm 12. I go, "So that guy goes to work that guy goes to work that guy goes to work with on the and the and lays the with on the and the and lays the with on the and the and lays the concrete for the buildings a con and concrete for the buildings a con and concrete for the buildings a con and that guy does that."

that guy does that." that guy does that." >> Yeah, that's a job. >> Yeah, that's a job. >> Yeah, that's a job. >> Like a 12-year-old. I go, "This is cuz >> Like a 12-year-old. I go, "This is cuz >> Like a 12-year-old. I go, "This is cuz it there was a studio and there was a it there was a studio and there was a it there was a studio and there was a set." I go, "That looks like a job. That set." I go, "That looks like a job. That set." I go, "That looks like a job. That guy looks like he does this every day." guy looks like he does this every day." guy looks like he does this every day." And I go, you know, in your 10, how does And I go, you know, in your 10, how does And I go, you know, in your 10, how does that guy get to do that? And that guy that guy get to do that? And that guy that guy get to do that? And that guy has to be a roofer. Not why, but I go, has to be a roofer. Not why, but I go, has to be a roofer. Not why, but I go, well, I want to do that one. well, I want to do that one. well, I want to do that one. >> And shout out to my >> And shout out to my >> And shout out to my shoot. Maybe shout out to my family or shoot. Maybe shout out to my family or shoot. Maybe shout out to my family or my parents that I was never my parents that I was never my parents that I was never >> Your dad didn't say so >> Your dad didn't say so >> Your dad didn't say so med school. med school. med school. >> No, no, no, no. And we would always we >> No, no, no, no. And we would always we >> No, no, no, no. And we would always we would always growing up we would always would always growing up we would always would always growing up we would always No one never said I couldn't do No one never said I couldn't do No one never said I couldn't do anything. anything. anything. >> That's pretty cool. I remember you >> That's pretty cool. I remember you >> That's pretty cool. I remember you saying on your podcast recently and saying on your podcast recently and saying on your podcast recently and maybe I got the story wrong but there maybe I got the story wrong but there maybe I got the story wrong but there was you know your roots of comedy. I'll was you know your roots of comedy. I'll was you know your roots of comedy. I'll come back to the Tonight Show. But come back to the Tonight Show. But come back to the Tonight Show. But speaking of your childhood, it was like speaking of your childhood, it was like speaking of your childhood, it was like you were doing some something with your you were doing some something with your you were doing some something with your friends. friends. friends. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they were writing a script >> And they were writing a script >> And they were writing a script >> and you said, "Oh, I can make it >> and you said, "Oh, I can make it >> and you said, "Oh, I can make it funnier." You know what I'm talking funnier." You know what I'm talking funnier." You know what I'm talking about.

about. about. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> That was that the first light bulb that >> That was that the first light bulb that >> That was that the first light bulb that Huh. Huh. Huh. >> Okay. Tell tell us about that. >> Okay. Tell tell us about that. >> Okay. Tell tell us about that. >> No, actually no. >> No, actually no. >> No, actually no. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, when I was I worked at uh um >> Okay. So, when I was I worked at uh um >> Okay. So, when I was I worked at uh um uh I wanted to be a sports anchor. uh I wanted to be a sports anchor. uh I wanted to be a sports anchor. >> Oh, that's fun. >> Oh, that's fun. >> Oh, that's fun. >> Cuz I was like sports in college. I was >> Cuz I was like sports in college. I was >> Cuz I was like sports in college. I was into uh journalism uh broadcasting. That into uh journalism uh broadcasting. That into uh journalism uh broadcasting. That was my major. was my major. was my major. >> And I went to my CBS 42 is where I was >> And I went to my CBS 42 is where I was >> And I went to my CBS 42 is where I was an intern at the my senior year of an intern at the my senior year of an intern at the my senior year of college. And I go, I was frustrated by college. And I go, I was frustrated by college. And I go, I was frustrated by the um reading off the teleprompter. the um reading off the teleprompter. the um reading off the teleprompter. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I go, for a news story. I go, can you >> I go, for a news story. I go, can you >> I go, for a news story. I go, can you just like put the bullet points up there just like put the bullet points up there just like put the bullet points up there and I'll just riff it? and I'll just riff it? and I'll just riff it? >> And they were like, no, no, >> And they were like, no, no, >> And they were like, no, no, >> that's not how news works. First of all, >> that's not how news works. First of all, >> that's not how news works. First of all, I'll just like be like, you know, six I'll just like be like, you know, six I'll just like be like, you know, six people or so got murdered and it was people or so got murdered and it was people or so got murdered and it was like on the east side of town. It was like on the east side of town. It was like on the east side of town. It was like, and I would just like and they like, and I would just like and they like, and I would just like and they were like, well, that's absolutely not. were like, well, that's absolutely not. were like, well, that's absolutely not. And John Mark Green, who is the guy, the And John Mark Green, who is the guy, the And John Mark Green, who is the guy, the cameraman that I would ride around with cameraman that I would ride around with cameraman that I would ride around with all day, he said try standup comedy. all day, he said try standup comedy. all day, he said try standup comedy. >> Oh, he gave you that idea. >> Oh, he gave you that idea. >> Oh, he gave you that idea. >> Yes. But >> Yes. But >> Yes. But >> that was when I started. It wasn't a >> that was when I started. It wasn't a >> that was when I started. It wasn't a phone isn't like it is now where you can phone isn't like it is now where you can phone isn't like it is now where you can just have notes section. I just started just have notes section. I just started just have notes section. I just started writing things down that I thought were writing things down that I thought were writing things down that I thought were funny.

funny. funny. >> And you're how old? >> And you're how old? >> And you're how old? >> 20. I was in college. 20 >> 20. I was in college. 20 >> 20. I was in college. 20 >> 20 21 >> 20 21 >> 20 21 >> Yeah. I didn't have any knowledge of >> Yeah. I didn't have any knowledge of >> Yeah. I didn't have any knowledge of like know any standup comedy. It took me like know any standup comedy. It took me like know any standup comedy. It took me five years to from the the I started five years to from the the I started five years to from the the I started when I was 25. It took me five years of when I was 25. It took me five years of when I was 25. It took me five years of like writing things down and like like writing things down and like like writing things down and like mulling it over in my head to to there's mulling it over in my head to to there's mulling it over in my head to to there's no no no standup comedy is the coolest job I standup comedy is the coolest job I standup comedy is the coolest job I believe on planet earth. Jerry Seinfeld believe on planet earth. Jerry Seinfeld believe on planet earth. Jerry Seinfeld said if you thought you could do it, you said if you thought you could do it, you said if you thought you could do it, you would do it. Like the NBA, if you would do it. Like the NBA, if you would do it. Like the NBA, if you thought you could play in the NBA, you thought you could play in the NBA, you thought you could play in the NBA, you would be playing in the NBA. would be playing in the NBA. would be playing in the NBA. >> Uhhuh. And he said the only >> Uhhuh. And he said the only >> Uhhuh. And he said the only only barrier to entry only barrier to entry only barrier to entry >> is >> is >> is here. here. here. >> It's hard. I was telling you >> It's hard. I was telling you >> It's hard. I was telling you >> there's no >> there's no >> there's no you don't have to have any money. you don't have to have any money. you don't have to have any money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You don't have to like if you want to go >> You don't have to like if you want to go >> You don't have to like if you want to go to med school. to med school. to med school. >> You won't have any money. >> You won't have any money. >> You won't have any money. >> You won't have any money. >> You won't have any money. >> You won't have any money. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> I've said this before, but if you want >> I've said this before, but if you want >> I've said this before, but if you want to go to med school, uh it's going to be to go to med school, uh it's going to be to go to med school, uh it's going to be 12 years until you get the title doctor. 12 years until you get the title doctor. 12 years until you get the title doctor. Stand up comedy gets the title on day Stand up comedy gets the title on day Stand up comedy gets the title on day one. That's true.

one. That's true. one. That's true. >> They would introduce. There's an open >> They would introduce. There's an open >> They would introduce. There's an open mic tonight. mic tonight. mic tonight. >> If you wanted to go on it, >> If you wanted to go on it, >> If you wanted to go on it, >> I could get you on it. Or there's a You >> I could get you on it. Or there's a You >> I could get you on it. Or there's a You could go on the East Room at 8:00 p.m. could go on the East Room at 8:00 p.m. could go on the East Room at 8:00 p.m. in Nashville. The East Room. Anybody in Nashville. The East Room. Anybody in Nashville. The East Room. Anybody could do it. could do it. could do it. >> It's amazing. >> It's amazing. >> It's amazing. >> And every city in America, by the way, >> And every city in America, by the way, >> And every city in America, by the way, has one. has one. has one. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Yep. Yeah. >> You could start tonight. >> You could start tonight. >> You could start tonight. >> Our mutual friend John Ak did a couple >> Our mutual friend John Ak did a couple >> Our mutual friend John Ak did a couple nights of standup a few years ago. nights of standup a few years ago. nights of standup a few years ago. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And decided it wasn't for him. >> And decided it wasn't for him. >> And decided it wasn't for him. >> It's not for everyone. >> It's not for everyone. >> It's not for everyone. >> He likes his job. >> He likes his job. >> He likes his job. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you're 20. >> So, you're 20. >> So, you're 20. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're in news. How did that go? You I >> You're in news. How did that go? You I >> You're in news. How did that go? You I imagine you might have been not the most imagine you might have been not the most imagine you might have been not the most satisfied employee. satisfied employee. satisfied employee. >> I'm not satisfied at anything, dude. >> I'm not satisfied at anything, dude. >> I'm not satisfied at anything, dude. Well, that Yeah, that's my fiance, dude. Well, that Yeah, that's my fiance, dude. Well, that Yeah, that's my fiance, dude. I'm not He's like, "Ah, here we go with I'm not He's like, "Ah, here we go with I'm not He's like, "Ah, here we go with this again." Yeah. Yeah. I think I just this again." Yeah. Yeah. I think I just this again." Yeah. Yeah. I think I just generally generally generally >> Are you unemployable? >> Are you unemployable? >> Are you unemployable? >> Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I would have to uh mindset of a comedian is just sit in uh mindset of a comedian is just sit in the back and go well okay the back and go well okay the back and go well okay I think to anything right to I think to anything right to I think to anything right to uh church to politics to social media to uh church to politics to social media to uh church to politics to social media to the way your neighborhood work like he's the way your neighborhood work like he's the way your neighborhood work like he's not going to be up there but he's going not going to be up there but he's going not going to be up there but he's going to be to be to be If that could be a title of a podcast, If that could be a title of a podcast, If that could be a title of a podcast, it can't. But like it can't. But like it can't. But like that's it. Which that's it. Which that's it. Which does make you great.

does make you great. does make you great. I think it's stand up and then it uh it I think it's stand up and then it uh it I think it's stand up and then it uh it has severe limitations has severe limitations has severe limitations in my personal life. in my personal life. in my personal life. >> Like what? >> Like what? >> Like what? >> Oh, that I think I mean my fiance will >> Oh, that I think I mean my fiance will >> Oh, that I think I mean my fiance will tell you that I I I think everybody's tell you that I I I think everybody's tell you that I I I think everybody's full of crap full of crap full of crap for the most part. I mean, unless I for the most part. I mean, unless I for the most part. I mean, unless I think everybody I think, oh, he's lying. think everybody I think, oh, he's lying. think everybody I think, oh, he's lying. Oh, they're just doing that for clicks. Oh, they're just doing that for clicks. Oh, they're just doing that for clicks. Oh, they're just Oh, they're just Oh, they're just >> um doing that to make money. Oh, he's >> um doing that to make money. Oh, he's >> um doing that to make money. Oh, he's just wants power. Oh, he just like just wants power. Oh, he just like just wants power. Oh, he just like >> I boil it everybody down to like I don't >> I boil it everybody down to like I don't >> I boil it everybody down to like I don't I don't believe the I don't believe the I don't believe the sincerity or or there has to be some sincerity or or there has to be some sincerity or or there has to be some kind of I don't know, skeleton in that kind of I don't know, skeleton in that kind of I don't know, skeleton in that guy's closet or you know what I'm guy's closet or you know what I'm guy's closet or you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? saying? Does that make sense? saying? Does that make sense? >> I think I do. Yeah. So there's a >> I think I do. Yeah. So there's a >> I think I do. Yeah. So there's a cynicism to it. cynicism to it. cynicism to it. >> Yeah. Which I think everybody has to >> Yeah. Which I think everybody has to >> Yeah. Which I think everybody has to have to be have to be have to be a comedian. And there but there look at a comedian. And there but there look at a comedian. And there but there look at there's other people that like um there's other people that like um there's other people that like um you look at a guy like you look at a guy like you look at a guy like Elon Musk or Trump or something like Elon Musk or Trump or something like Elon Musk or Trump or something like that. You're like well people say uh that. You're like well people say uh that. You're like well people say uh like mean things to that. I go yeah his like mean things to that. I go yeah his like mean things to that. I go yeah his brain's not like yours. It it does. You brain's not like yours. It it does. You brain's not like yours. It it does. You know what I'm saying? Whether you agree know what I'm saying? Whether you agree know what I'm saying? Whether you agree with he's like to be able to take with he's like to be able to take with he's like to be able to take that level of like leadership in your that level of like leadership in your that level of like leadership in your company and be like, I don't His brain company and be like, I don't His brain company and be like, I don't His brain doesn't work like yours.

doesn't work like yours. doesn't work like yours. >> You're not going to be like Elon Musk. >> You're not going to be like Elon Musk. >> You're not going to be like Elon Musk. >> His brain doesn't work like yours. No, >> His brain doesn't work like yours. No, >> His brain doesn't work like yours. No, he now he I think I shouldn't speak for he now he I think I shouldn't speak for he now he I think I shouldn't speak for him, but like he's got a bunch of him, but like he's got a bunch of him, but like he's got a bunch of different kids with a bunch of different different kids with a bunch of different different kids with a bunch of different people and but like kind of like same people and but like kind of like same people and but like kind of like same with um there's a lot of kind of leaders with um there's a lot of kind of leaders with um there's a lot of kind of leaders that like their personal life is kind of that like their personal life is kind of that like their personal life is kind of like wait what you know you hear like a like wait what you know you hear like a like wait what you know you hear like a guy that uh you know is unbelievable in guy that uh you know is unbelievable in guy that uh you know is unbelievable in this area and then you go wait what this area and then you go wait what this area and then you go wait what about that you know the the greatness of about that you know the the greatness of about that you know the the greatness of the the the >> quality causes challenges elsewhere. >> quality causes challenges elsewhere. >> quality causes challenges elsewhere. Morgan Hustell says, "If you really Morgan Hustell says, "If you really Morgan Hustell says, "If you really admire someone, you got to admire the admire someone, you got to admire the admire someone, you got to admire the whole thing." Like, you might admire whole thing." Like, you might admire whole thing." Like, you might admire their money or their success their money or their success their money or their success >> or whatever, but you're if if if you >> or whatever, but you're if if if you >> or whatever, but you're if if if you want that gift, you sign up for the want that gift, you sign up for the want that gift, you sign up for the whole package. whole package. whole package. >> I think that's a really good >> I think that's a really good >> I think that's a really good observation. So, you've got that. You observation. So, you've got that. You observation. So, you've got that. You know, pastors have a version of that. I know, pastors have a version of that. I know, pastors have a version of that. I have trouble sitting in church have trouble sitting in church have trouble sitting in church >> because I've led church for so long >> because I've led church for so long >> because I've led church for so long >> that it's it's like this critical >> that it's it's like this critical >> that it's it's like this critical filter, filter, filter, >> man. that like, oh, why did you do that >> man. that like, oh, why did you do that >> man. that like, oh, why did you do that in the message or that worship leader in the message or that worship leader in the message or that worship leader really doesn't know how to do a bridge really doesn't know how to do a bridge really doesn't know how to do a bridge or you know she's flat or he's flat. my or you know she's flat or he's flat. my or you know she's flat or he's flat. my my fiance is like I have to like my fiance is like I have to like my fiance is like I have to like I I go about something and we go by the I I go about something and we go by the I I go about something and we go by the way we're on the road some we go to way we're on the road some we go to way we're on the road some we go to other churches and she goes other churches and she goes other churches and she goes >> you >> you >> you she doesn't say you have she goes it she doesn't say you have she goes it she doesn't say you have she goes it would do you would do you would do you it would benefit you to to switch that it would benefit you to to switch that it would benefit you to to switch that off. How do you >> I can't I don't know.

>> I can't I don't know. >> I can't. No, I mean >> I can't. No, I mean >> I can't. No, I mean my leader, my leader, my leader, >> but it's uh >> but it's uh >> but it's uh >> it's um maybe not for I mean every I >> it's um maybe not for I mean every I >> it's um maybe not for I mean every I think everybody every think everybody every think everybody every um um um every couple I could be wrong. They get every couple I could be wrong. They get every couple I could be wrong. They get into the they get into We went to a into the they get into We went to a into the they get into We went to a church on the road. We were uh on the church on the road. We were uh on the church on the road. We were uh on the road and some friends invited us to road and some friends invited us to road and some friends invited us to church. So, we were not at our home church. So, we were not at our home church. So, we were not at our home church a couple weekends ago and I was church a couple weekends ago and I was church a couple weekends ago and I was like, I know exactly what me and Lydia like, I know exactly what me and Lydia like, I know exactly what me and Lydia are going to talk about in the car. I are going to talk about in the car. I are going to talk about in the car. I know exactly what we're going to talk know exactly what we're going to talk know exactly what we're going to talk about and I think it has to be coupled about and I think it has to be coupled about and I think it has to be coupled maybe with the way I can do it better. I maybe with the way I can do it better. I maybe with the way I can do it better. I go go go >> I go, that being said, >> I go, that being said, >> I go, that being said, let's talk about the things we liked. let's talk about the things we liked. let's talk about the things we liked. >> You know, let's talk about I really >> You know, let's talk about I really >> You know, let's talk about I really appreciated this. I was convicted by appreciated this. I was convicted by appreciated this. I was convicted by this. That was excellent. this. That was excellent. this. That was excellent. >> Yeah. My wife's >> Yeah. My wife's >> Yeah. My wife's >> put them both together if we're going to >> put them both together if we're going to >> put them both together if we're going to do that. You just have to snarl it. The do that. You just have to snarl it. The do that. You just have to snarl it. The >> crush it. >> crush it. >> crush it. >> So, it's a filter on life. I' I've spent >> So, it's a filter on life. I' I've spent >> So, it's a filter on life. I' I've spent a ton of time with Auff with John Auff, a ton of time with Auff with John Auff, a ton of time with Auff with John Auff, you know, on and off mic. Lot of off mic you know, on and off mic. Lot of off mic you know, on and off mic. Lot of off mic >> and like he is the same off mic as he is >> and like he is the same off mic as he is >> and like he is the same off mic as he is on mic. He'll just see stuff. He'll see on mic. He'll just see stuff. He'll see on mic. He'll just see stuff. He'll see stuff about this room, this studio.

stuff about this room, this studio. stuff about this room, this studio. >> Yeah, he's great. Beautiful mind. Yeah, >> Yeah, he's great. Beautiful mind. Yeah, >> Yeah, he's great. Beautiful mind. Yeah, >> he's got a beautiful mind. And like I'm >> he's got a beautiful mind. And like I'm >> he's got a beautiful mind. And like I'm seeing the same stuff, but I don't see seeing the same stuff, but I don't see seeing the same stuff, but I don't see it. it. it. >> But you've seen that for years. >> But you've seen that for years. >> But you've seen that for years. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. I one of my one of my biggest >> Yeah. I one of my one of my biggest >> Yeah. I one of my one of my biggest videos, this was probably videos, this was probably videos, this was probably about the same era that I came out of about the same era that I came out of about the same era that I came out of the podcast maybe three four years ago the podcast maybe three four years ago the podcast maybe three four years ago now is I we were driving through Phoenix now is I we were driving through Phoenix now is I we were driving through Phoenix >> uh on the way home from a show we have a >> uh on the way home from a show we have a >> uh on the way home from a show we have a runner that takes us in a van or runner that takes us in a van or runner that takes us in a van or whatever to in from the hotel whatever to in from the hotel whatever to in from the hotel >> and I saw this white Porsche that had a >> and I saw this white Porsche that had a >> and I saw this white Porsche that had a uh sensors on all four corners big and uh sensors on all four corners big and uh sensors on all four corners big and then a sensor up top. I go and we I go, then a sensor up top. I go and we I go, then a sensor up top. I go and we I go, "What is that?" And somebody goes, "What is that?" And somebody goes, "What is that?" And somebody goes, "That's a Whimo. It's a driverless." "That's a Whimo. It's a driverless." "That's a Whimo. It's a driverless." >> One of the first Whimos. >> One of the first Whimos. >> One of the first Whimos. >> Yeah. And then And I And I go, "What?" >> Yeah. And then And I And I go, "What?" >> Yeah. And then And I And I go, "What?" They go, "Yeah, it's a driverless They go, "Yeah, it's a driverless They go, "Yeah, it's a driverless car." car." car." I go, I go, I go, "What?" "What?" "What?" And then everybody, there's other people And then everybody, there's other people And then everybody, there's other people in the car. There's a lot of people in in the car. There's a lot of people in in the car. There's a lot of people in the car and we've been there all the car and we've been there all the car and we've been there all weekend. The driver had obviously seen weekend. The driver had obviously seen weekend. The driver had obviously seen him cuz he lives in and I go, "Wait, him cuz he lives in and I go, "Wait, him cuz he lives in and I go, "Wait, wait, wait, what?" And not only did I wait, wait, what?" And not only did I wait, wait, what?" And not only did I see it, I asked about it. Then I I go, see it, I asked about it. Then I I go, see it, I asked about it. Then I I go, "What's the name of it?" And I looked it "What's the name of it?" And I looked it "What's the name of it?" And I looked it up and I go, "I want to take one." And I up and I go, "I want to take one." And I up and I go, "I want to take one." And I did. That was my biggest video ever. I did. That was my biggest video ever. I did. That was my biggest video ever. I go, "I'm standing here in a parking lot go, "I'm standing here in a parking lot go, "I'm standing here in a parking lot and this driverless car is about to come and this driverless car is about to come and this driverless car is about to come get me." And it did. And I rode it to get me." And it did. And I rode it to get me." And it did. And I rode it to Whole Foods and it was like the internet Whole Foods and it was like the internet Whole Foods and it was like the internet now. Now we know about them, but at the now. Now we know about them, but at the now. Now we know about them, but at the time I go, "What's that? That's my whole

time I go, "What's that? That's my whole time I go, "What's that? That's my whole >> And everybody else everybody else saw >> And everybody else everybody else saw >> And everybody else everybody else saw it, it, it, >> but you turned it into something. >> but you turned it into something. >> but you turned it into something. >> Why is that? Like I I I drove in here >> Why is that? Like I I I drove in here >> Why is that? Like I I I drove in here and I go, "How could this house How and I go, "How could this house How and I go, "How could this house How could a What's their could a What's their could a What's their >> I had the same thing." I'm like, "We're >> I had the same thing." I'm like, "We're >> I had the same thing." I'm like, "We're in middle America suburbanville." in middle America suburbanville." in middle America suburbanville." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> With a house built in the late 60s or >> With a house built in the late 60s or >> With a house built in the late 60s or 70s. It's a podcast studio. 70s. It's a podcast studio. 70s. It's a podcast studio. >> Yeah. No, but and whatever you I go I >> Yeah. No, but and whatever you I go I >> Yeah. No, but and whatever you I go I just need the explanation. I need the just need the explanation. I need the just need the explanation. I need the explanation. And then it's usually and I explanation. And then it's usually and I explanation. And then it's usually and I go, go, go, >> "What did What did you say when you >> "What did What did you say when you >> "What did What did you say when you walked in?" I think you can say it. walked in?" I think you can say it. walked in?" I think you can say it. >> What did I say? >> What did I say? >> What did I say? >> Uh, you said uh well, clearly you're not >> Uh, you said uh well, clearly you're not >> Uh, you said uh well, clearly you're not paying the mortgage on things this thing paying the mortgage on things this thing paying the mortgage on things this thing with the podcast studio, right? Yeah. I with the podcast studio, right? Yeah. I with the podcast studio, right? Yeah. I go, well, that doesn't make sense to me. go, well, that doesn't make sense to me. go, well, that doesn't make sense to me. >> Yeah, but but that's a but you got the >> Yeah, but but that's a but you got the >> Yeah, but but that's a but you got the crew laughing. Yeah, maybe it'll come crew laughing. Yeah, maybe it'll come crew laughing. Yeah, maybe it'll come off as like uh like if I'm not friends off as like uh like if I'm not friends off as like uh like if I'm not friends with somebody like it'll come off as with somebody like it'll come off as with somebody like it'll come off as like abrasive or like but I go I well I like abrasive or like but I go I well I like abrasive or like but I go I well I got I'm just I got questions about how got I'm just I got questions about how got I'm just I got questions about how this would work probably because I want this would work probably because I want this would work probably because I want to do it or like if that's if this is a to do it or like if that's if this is a to do it or like if that's if this is a good model and I go well the SEO I good model and I go well the SEO I good model and I go well the SEO I wonder if you just Google I would think wonder if you just Google I would think wonder if you just Google I would think about that. I go wait what?

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he do that? he do that? >> Why would he do that? This goes back >> Why would he do that? This goes back >> Why would he do that? This goes back >> to your childhood to your early >> to your childhood to your early >> to your childhood to your early formation ages. Back to that cuz we're formation ages. Back to that cuz we're formation ages. Back to that cuz we're going to get in the comments. What going to get in the comments. What going to get in the comments. What happened with those three friends with happened with those three friends with happened with those three friends with the script? What what was that story the script? What what was that story the script? What what was that story that you were like what nine 10? that you were like what nine 10? that you were like what nine 10? >> I was probably No, I was that was um >> I was probably No, I was that was um >> I was probably No, I was that was um when I formally started comedy. when I formally started comedy. when I formally started comedy. >> Oh, it was Oh, okay. >> Oh, it was Oh, okay. >> Oh, it was Oh, okay. >> So, I I was a I worked at a church in >> So, I I was a I worked at a church in >> So, I I was a I worked at a church in Colorado. This is so I was probably 20 Colorado. This is so I was probably 20 Colorado. This is so I was probably 20 uh 20. uh 20. uh 20. >> You worked at a church? >> You worked at a church? >> You worked at a church? >> Oh, yeah. I was like on the uh I worked >> Oh, yeah. I was like on the uh I worked >> Oh, yeah. I was like on the uh I worked at a New Life Church. at a New Life Church. at a New Life Church. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> In Colorado Springs. >> In Colorado Springs. >> In Colorado Springs. >> Yeah. Well, was there in like like on >> Yeah. Well, was there in like like on >> Yeah. Well, was there in like like on the college ministry I led a couple the college ministry I led a couple the college ministry I led a couple mission trips over to mission trips over to mission trips over to >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This is where Lauren Del on a ministry team. on a ministry team. >> We It was the We were leading, you know, >> We It was the We were leading, you know, >> We It was the We were leading, you know, 300 people going to Africa for the 300 people going to Africa for the 300 people going to Africa for the summer and they were writing a I was on summer and they were writing a I was on summer and they were writing a I was on the leadership team and they're writing the leadership team and they're writing the leadership team and they're writing a script about like they're going to a script about like they're going to a script about like they're going to make a skit for everybody in there about make a skit for everybody in there about make a skit for everybody in there about what not to do.

what not to do. what not to do. >> Okay. like don't uh play your music loud >> Okay. like don't uh play your music loud >> Okay. like don't uh play your music loud in the airport. Don't uh culturally and in the airport. Don't uh culturally and in the airport. Don't uh culturally and I go well and I walked into the meeting. I go well and I walked into the meeting. I go well and I walked into the meeting. I go well that you should he shouldn't I go well that you should he shouldn't I go well that you should he shouldn't say that. He should say and then he what say that. He should say and then he what say that. He should say and then he what if he was wearing and then what if he if he was wearing and then what if he if he was wearing and then what if he was flirting with all the other girls on was flirting with all the other girls on was flirting with all the other girls on the team and then what if he was and the team and then what if he was and the team and then what if he was and then they go well do you want to do it? then they go well do you want to do it? then they go well do you want to do it? >> Uhhuh. And that's how my that's how my >> Uhhuh. And that's how my that's how my >> Uhhuh. And that's how my that's how my that's how my comedy and then I did it that's how my comedy and then I did it that's how my comedy and then I did it and then the feedback was you know at and then the feedback was you know at and then the feedback was you know at the time I'm 22 know all the girls in the time I'm 22 know all the girls in the time I'm 22 know all the girls in the youth groups that was so funny and I the youth groups that was so funny and I the youth groups that was so funny and I was like well I'm doing this for the was like well I'm doing this for the was like well I'm doing this for the rest of my life rest of my life rest of my life >> that is supposed to be like a dating >> that is supposed to be like a dating >> that is supposed to be like a dating thing I haven't dated in years but you thing I haven't dated in years but you thing I haven't dated in years but you know uh if you can make a woman laugh know uh if you can make a woman laugh know uh if you can make a woman laugh >> that's key to her heart >> that's key to her heart >> that's key to her heart >> is that right heard yeah well that was >> is that right heard yeah well that was >> is that right heard yeah well that was >> so that goes to what open mics or >> so that goes to what open mics or >> so that goes to what open mics or >> 2009 9 June 24th of 2009. That was >> 2009 9 June 24th of 2009. That was >> 2009 9 June 24th of 2009. That was probably uh I was probably 22 there. probably uh I was probably 22 there. probably uh I was probably 22 there. That was that was 2 years after the news That was that was 2 years after the news That was that was 2 years after the news leaving the news. I was still writing leaving the news. I was still writing leaving the news. I was still writing things down, things down, things down, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> But I I was in Colorado Springs. There's >> But I I was in Colorado Springs. There's >> But I I was in Colorado Springs. There's no And then I was 2009. I took an no And then I was 2009. I took an no And then I was 2009. I took an internship in Atlanta, Georgia, where my internship in Atlanta, Georgia, where my internship in Atlanta, Georgia, where my family lives. Uh and I kept uh I didn't family lives. Uh and I kept uh I didn't family lives. Uh and I kept uh I didn't tell my parents. tell my parents. tell my parents. >> Oh wow. Wow. I was living with my >> Oh wow. Wow. I was living with my >> Oh wow. Wow. I was living with my parents and I would every Tuesday I parents and I would every Tuesday I parents and I would every Tuesday I would go to I first I just started going would go to I first I just started going would go to I first I just started going to the open mic and I would just sit in to the open mic and I would just sit in to the open mic and I would just sit in the back and you know you watch the back and you know you watch the back and you know you watch Chris Rock or or Bill Burr, one of the Chris Rock or or Bill Burr, one of the Chris Rock or or Bill Burr, one of the greats, you go I can never do that but greats, you go I can never do that but greats, you go I can never do that but you go to open mic. you go to open mic. you go to open mic. >> You're like I I >> You're like I I >> You're like I I >> you can definitely do that. >> you can definitely do that. >> you can definitely do that. >> I'm better than that guy. >> I'm better than that guy. >> I'm better than that guy. >> So I probably and I I was going all >> So I probably and I I was going all >> So I probably and I I was going all summer. every Tuesday I would go down summer. every Tuesday I would go down summer. every Tuesday I would go down there watch and then about after two there watch and then about after two there watch and then about after two months I go to the the lady that running months I go to the the lady that running months I go to the the lady that running in the door and I was like I would like in the door and I was like I would like in the door and I was like I would like to do it. to do it. to do it. Then she goes you want to do standup Then she goes you want to do standup Then she goes you want to do standup comedy? I go yeah. She looks at her comedy? I go yeah. She looks at her comedy? I go yeah. She looks at her paper. I never forget this. She looks at paper. I never forget this. She looks at paper. I never forget this. She looks at her paper. She goes uh her paper. She goes uh her paper. She goes uh June 23rd. June 23rd. June 23rd. Got two minutes Got two minutes Got two minutes and didn't give me a contact and didn't give me a contact and didn't give me a contact information. There was no sign up.

information. There was no sign up. information. There was no sign up. >> June 23rd 2 minutes. And if I didn't >> June 23rd 2 minutes. And if I didn't >> June 23rd 2 minutes. And if I didn't show up for the two minutes, obviously show up for the two minutes, obviously show up for the two minutes, obviously it would it would it would >> they would have filled it. >> they would have filled it. >> they would have filled it. >> They would have filled it. They weren't >> They would have filled it. They weren't >> They would have filled it. They weren't waiting for you. waiting for you. waiting for you. >> They would probably like you'll be here >> They would probably like you'll be here >> They would probably like you'll be here any minute. any minute. any minute. >> They would have probably rather I didn't >> They would have probably rather I didn't >> They would have probably rather I didn't show up at that night. And then I showed show up at that night. And then I showed show up at that night. And then I showed up and I was I was out of my mind up and I was I was out of my mind up and I was I was out of my mind terrified. Out of my mind. Terrified. I terrified. Out of my mind. Terrified. I terrified. Out of my mind. Terrified. I was throwing up. I threw up in the in was throwing up. I threw up in the in was throwing up. I threw up in the in the in the urinal. I I I threw up in the the in the urinal. I I I threw up in the the in the urinal. I I I threw up in the urinal, which is not the urinal, which is not the urinal, which is not the >> I don't think you're supposed to do >> I don't think you're supposed to do >> I don't think you're supposed to do that. that. that. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> And I'll never forget the guy. There's a >> And I'll never forget the guy. There's a >> And I'll never forget the guy. There's a little like uh the guy said this black little like uh the guy said this black little like uh the guy said this black guy. I don't remember who he was. Maybe guy. I don't remember who he was. Maybe guy. I don't remember who he was. Maybe he's an angel. I don't know. He goes, he's an angel. I don't know. He goes, he's an angel. I don't know. He goes, "You nervous?" I go, "Yeah." He could "You nervous?" I go, "Yeah." He could "You nervous?" I go, "Yeah." He could tell I've paid. He never seen me before. tell I've paid. He never seen me before. tell I've paid. He never seen me before. Also, Also, Also, >> you're pale. Yeah. >> you're pale. Yeah. >> you're pale. Yeah. >> He goes, "Well, think about this. They >> He goes, "Well, think about this. They >> He goes, "Well, think about this. They can't They can't kill you and they can't can't They can't kill you and they can't can't They can't kill you and they can't put you in jail. put you in jail. put you in jail. No matter what. No matter what. No matter what. No matter." And I go, "Huh?" like, No matter." And I go, "Huh?" like, No matter." And I go, "Huh?" like, oh, what is it so scary? Yeah, the oh, what is it so scary? Yeah, the oh, what is it so scary? Yeah, the public speaking is the biggest fear of public speaking is the biggest fear of public speaking is the biggest fear of everybody. And then multiply that everybody. And then multiply that everybody. And then multiply that probably times 20 doing live feedback.

probably times 20 doing live feedback. probably times 20 doing live feedback. >> And I go, yeah, why am I so scared of >> And I go, yeah, why am I so scared of >> And I go, yeah, why am I so scared of this? And it bombed. I didn't get one this? And it bombed. I didn't get one this? And it bombed. I didn't get one laugh and it was horrific. laugh and it was horrific. laugh and it was horrific. >> Didn't get one laugh. >> Didn't get one laugh. >> Didn't get one laugh. >> I won. Wow. >> I won. Wow. >> I won. Wow. >> And you know what? >> And you know what? >> And you know what? >> Drove home at a silver Honda Civic >> and I was driving home on Peach Tree >> and I was driving home on Peach Tree Street in downtown Atlanta. and I go, Street in downtown Atlanta. and I go, Street in downtown Atlanta. and I go, I'm going to do this for the rest of my I'm going to do this for the rest of my I'm going to do this for the rest of my life. life. life. >> Even though you bombed >> Even though you bombed >> Even though you bombed >> bombed bombed. Do you remember a joke >> bombed bombed. Do you remember a joke >> bombed bombed. Do you remember a joke from that first set? from that first set? from that first set? >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, yeah. I said, uh, saw a guy walking out yeah. I said, uh, saw a guy walking out yeah. I said, uh, saw a guy walking out of Costco with a pallet of rice and four of Costco with a pallet of rice and four of Costco with a pallet of rice and four cases of D batteries. cases of D batteries. cases of D batteries. What does he know? What does he know? What does he know? The worst joke of all, like like some The worst joke of all, like like some The worst joke of all, like like some some impending something. some impending something. some impending something. >> What does he know? What does he know >> What does he know? What does he know >> What does he know? What does he know that I don't know? Why do why you know that I don't know? Why do why you know that I don't know? Why do why you know what I'm saying? Why does he have that? what I'm saying? Why does he have that? what I'm saying? Why does he have that? >> As if some it's like Yeah. I mean, >> As if some it's like Yeah. I mean, >> As if some it's like Yeah. I mean, that's very underdeveloped sense of that's very underdeveloped sense of that's very underdeveloped sense of humor at the time. But humor at the time. But humor at the time. But >> so what made you think I'm going to do >> so what made you think I'm going to do >> so what made you think I'm going to do this for the rest of my life? this for the rest of my life? this for the rest of my life? >> And Tim Hawkins. >> And Tim Hawkins. >> And Tim Hawkins. >> Yeah. Tim Hawkins. I I talked about that >> Yeah. Tim Hawkins. I I talked about that >> Yeah. Tim Hawkins. I I talked about that with him. He said that's how you know with him. He said that's how you know with him. He said that's how you know that you you're that you you're that you you're wildly passionate about something. You wildly passionate about something. You wildly passionate about something. You could do run an event and the event could do run an event and the event could do run an event and the event bombs. We go, "Oh, okay. Next time we're bombs. We go, "Oh, okay. Next time we're bombs. We go, "Oh, okay. Next time we're going to have the uh you know what I'm going to have the uh you know what I'm going to have the uh you know what I'm saying? A sermon maybe too. Maybe maybe saying? A sermon maybe too. Maybe maybe saying? A sermon maybe too. Maybe maybe a musician. Oh dude. Okay. If we write a musician. Oh dude. Okay. If we write a musician. Oh dude. Okay. If we write that diff like immediately. You weren't that diff like immediately. You weren't that diff like immediately. You weren't I wasn't defeated by it. I wasn't I wasn't defeated by it. I wasn't I wasn't defeated by it. I wasn't embarrassed by it. I was un

embarrassed by it. I was un embarrassed by it. I was un I was in the clouds and that I first of I was in the clouds and that I first of I was in the clouds and that I first of all I think I was so proud of myself all I think I was so proud of myself all I think I was so proud of myself that I did it. that I did it. that I did it. >> Yeah. You should be >> Yeah. You should be >> Yeah. You should be >> maybe that. And I go and then I mean >> maybe that. And I go and then I mean >> maybe that. And I go and then I mean this is probably this is probably this is probably a month later my family were sitting at a month later my family were sitting at a month later my family were sitting at dinner. They go where do you keep dinner. They go where do you keep dinner. They go where do you keep because I was old enough that I didn't because I was old enough that I didn't because I was old enough that I didn't have to tell them where I was going. have to tell them where I was going. have to tell them where I was going. They were like where do you keep going? They were like where do you keep going? They were like where do you keep going? And I finally like dropped it on my And I finally like dropped it on my And I finally like dropped it on my parents. I will never forget this. See parents. I will never forget this. See parents. I will never forget this. See there I was sitting the table where I there I was sitting the table where I there I was sitting the table where I always sit when I sat where I sat as a always sit when I sat where I sat as a always sit when I sat where I sat as a child the second seat up from my dad my child the second seat up from my dad my child the second seat up from my dad my dad here my mom here my brother here and dad here my mom here my brother here and dad here my mom here my brother here and I go I've been going to do standup I go I've been going to do standup I go I've been going to do standup comedy comedy comedy my dad if you set my dad down here he my dad if you set my dad down here he my dad if you set my dad down here he would never forget that either would never forget that either would never forget that either >> how bad >> how bad >> how bad >> he will never he will go what I mean >> he will never he will go what I mean >> he will never he will go what I mean that's that's that's and and and I mean I I tell people that day I mean I I tell people that day I mean I I tell people that day with the same amount of enthusiasm. with the same amount of enthusiasm. with the same amount of enthusiasm. >> Yeah. What was the reaction? >> Yeah. What was the reaction? >> Yeah. What was the reaction? >> I mean, disbelief, >> I mean, disbelief, >> I mean, disbelief, >> right? You >> right? You >> right? You >> They were like, "What?"

>> They were like, "What?" >> They were like, "What?" >> Yeah. Cuz >> Yeah. Cuz >> Yeah. Cuz >> Were you the kid cracking people up >> Were you the kid cracking people up >> Were you the kid cracking people up around the house when you were younger? around the house when you were younger? around the house when you were younger? >> You were very shy. Very shy. >> You were very shy. Very shy. >> You were very shy. Very shy. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> now I would be in the back like if mom >> now I would be in the back like if mom >> now I would be in the back like if mom and dad would do something, if mom and and dad would do something, if mom and and dad would do something, if mom and dad would do something that everybody dad would do something that everybody dad would do something that everybody would come to me, they' be like, "Look would come to me, they' be like, "Look would come to me, they' be like, "Look at the at the at the >> Yeah. So you're kind of the >> Yeah. So you're kind of the >> Yeah. So you're kind of the >> Yeah, I was in the back of the whatever >> Yeah, I was in the back of the whatever >> Yeah, I was in the back of the whatever and I would be always keep to myself, and I would be always keep to myself, and I would be always keep to myself, but I always had thoughts. A lot of but I always had thoughts. A lot of but I always had thoughts. A lot of thoughts. A lot of thoughts about thoughts. A lot of thoughts about thoughts. A lot of thoughts about >> You were shy. >> You were shy. >> You were shy. >> Why? Yeah. But I never would. >> Why? Yeah. But I never would. >> Why? Yeah. But I never would. And I would say that And I would say that And I would say that >> people would dis be hard for people to >> people would dis be hard for people to >> people would dis be hard for people to believe, but I'm still like that now. believe, but I'm still like that now. believe, but I'm still like that now. Like my fiance was like there's this Like my fiance was like there's this Like my fiance was like there's this like we were in Time Square and there's like we were in Time Square and there's like we were in Time Square and there's this like kind of karaoke thing. I go, this like kind of karaoke thing. I go, this like kind of karaoke thing. I go, uh, absolutely not. I'm not I don't want uh, absolutely not. I'm not I don't want uh, absolutely not. I'm not I don't want to attract any. I like to do it on my to attract any. I like to do it on my to attract any. I like to do it on my own terms. own terms. own terms. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's when the comedy show and >> And that's when the comedy show and >> And that's when the comedy show and people have come to see it and it's but people have come to see it and it's but people have come to see it and it's but I don't want to go into I don't want to go into I don't want to go into karaoke. No, I would never, hey, stand karaoke. No, I would never, hey, stand karaoke. No, I would never, hey, stand up on the get get up on the get get up on the get get >> I'm still I'm the same way.

>> I'm still I'm the same way. >> I'm still I'm the same way. >> I don't want to be in front of anybody. >> I don't want to be in front of anybody. >> I don't want to be in front of anybody. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Ever. Huh? >> Ever. Huh? >> Ever. Huh? >> I like to do it on my own terms because >> I like to do it on my own terms because >> I like to do it on my own terms because I think I But I think I But I think I But I'm still I still feel that way. I'm still I still feel that way. I'm still I still feel that way. >> What was the first time somebody >> What was the first time somebody >> What was the first time somebody laughed? You're doing stand up. laughed? You're doing stand up. laughed? You're doing stand up. >> Remember that? Was that a month later? >> Remember that? Was that a month later? >> Remember that? Was that a month later? >> Well, I I >> I remember I was at my aunt's house. My >> I remember I was at my aunt's house. My aunt lives in Goan, Indiana. and I we're aunt lives in Goan, Indiana. and I we're aunt lives in Goan, Indiana. and I we're just started doing standup but not maybe just started doing standup but not maybe just started doing standup but not maybe I wasn't starting it I don't remember I wasn't starting it I don't remember I wasn't starting it I don't remember but I did the kind of like a I thought but I did the kind of like a I thought but I did the kind of like a I thought it was so funny this was back in what it was so funny this was back in what it was so funny this was back in what 200 200 200 six or something there's this website on six or something there's this website on six or something there's this website on the commercials all the time for cash the commercials all the time for cash the commercials all the time for cash for gold for gold for gold >> you would send >> you would send >> you would send you would send I go well what about the you would send I go well what about the you would send I go well what about the postman that picks up a package postman that picks up a package postman that picks up a package It's5 It's5 It's5 pounds and it's addressed to cash for pounds and it's addressed to cash for pounds and it's addressed to cash for gold. That's his last day on the job.

gold. That's his last day on the job. gold. That's his last day on the job. Like he's he's quitting. Like he's he's quitting. Like he's he's quitting. Or then what about the postman that Or then what about the postman that Or then what about the postman that picks up the packages? You're sending picks up the packages? You're sending picks up the packages? You're sending back cash. So he's going to the cash for back cash. So he's going to the cash for back cash. So he's going to the cash for gold warehouse. You're like, I'm mailed. gold warehouse. You're like, I'm mailed. gold warehouse. You're like, I'm mailed. This is all has to be cash. And I was This is all has to be cash. And I was This is all has to be cash. And I was like, it's just such a silly. And I like, it's just such a silly. And I like, it's just such a silly. And I remember telling this at at my family remember telling this at at my family remember telling this at at my family Thanksgiving around the table and people Thanksgiving around the table and people Thanksgiving around the table and people were undone. They were undone. I was were undone. They were undone. I was were undone. They were undone. I was speaking with so much confidence speaking with so much confidence speaking with so much confidence about how this is the silliest thing about how this is the silliest thing about how this is the silliest thing I've ever heard. The postman pulls up to I've ever heard. The postman pulls up to I've ever heard. The postman pulls up to the house and he's like, "Well, here's the house and he's like, "Well, here's the house and he's like, "Well, here's address the cash for gold." address the cash for gold." address the cash for gold." >> And I It's true. >> And I It's true. >> And I It's true. >> Yeah. I go, "This is the wild." And then >> Yeah. I go, "This is the wild." And then >> Yeah. I go, "This is the wild." And then I think I Yeah. There's instances like I think I Yeah. There's instances like I think I Yeah. There's instances like that that I was slowly gaining. I wasn't that that I was slowly gaining. I wasn't that that I was slowly gaining. I wasn't I mean money or I mean money or I mean money or people noticing me in the airport or people noticing me in the airport or people noticing me in the airport or came way way way later. But came way way way later. But came way way way later. But >> so >> so >> so back to where you were this summer, the back to where you were this summer, the back to where you were this summer, the Tonight Show.

Tonight Show. Tonight Show. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How do you get on the Tonight Show? They >> How do you get on the Tonight Show? They >> How do you get on the Tonight Show? They just like call you up like what's just like call you up like what's just like call you up like what's like Jimmy Fallon going, "John, I've like Jimmy Fallon going, "John, I've like Jimmy Fallon going, "John, I've been trying to get your number. Welcome been trying to get your number. Welcome been trying to get your number. Welcome to the show." to the show." to the show." Um, no, you can you can sub uh through Um, no, you can you can sub uh through Um, no, you can you can sub uh through your agent or management. You could uh I your agent or management. You could uh I your agent or management. You could uh I mean you could the interesting thing mean you could the interesting thing mean you could the interesting thing about comedy is that uh about comedy is that uh about comedy is that uh there's no book. there's no book. there's no book. There's no any there's actually no There's no any there's actually no There's no any there's actually no anything. And if like if you want to be anything. And if like if you want to be anything. And if like if you want to be a real estate, what do you have to do? a real estate, what do you have to do? a real estate, what do you have to do? Oh yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Okay. >> First of all, you got to get this stuff. >> First of all, you got to get this stuff. >> First of all, you got to get this stuff. You got to study this stuff. You're You got to study this stuff. You're You got to study this stuff. You're going to take a um class, you're going going to take a um class, you're going going to take a um class, you're going to pass that test, then you got to get to pass that test, then you got to get to pass that test, then you got to get with an agency once you and here are all with an agency once you and here are all with an agency once you and here are all the agencies and like here's how to do the agencies and like here's how to do the agencies and like here's how to do it. it. it. >> This episode is brought to you by Glue. >> This episode is brought to you by Glue. >> This episode is brought to you by Glue. We all know how fast things move in We all know how fast things move in We all know how fast things move in ministry and how hard it can be to keep ministry and how hard it can be to keep ministry and how hard it can be to keep up. Well, that's exactly what the Glue up. Well, that's exactly what the Glue up. Well, that's exactly what the Glue feed is built for. It's a completely feed is built for. It's a completely feed is built for. It's a completely free regular text that delivers the free regular text that delivers the free regular text that delivers the latest research, trending topics, and latest research, trending topics, and latest research, trending topics, and updates from across the church. For updates from across the church. For updates from across the church. For example, did you see the surprising example, did you see the surprising example, did you see the surprising reversal in which Americans are trending reversal in which Americans are trending reversal in which Americans are trending in their commitment to Jesus? Uh, it's in their commitment to Jesus? Uh, it's in their commitment to Jesus? Uh, it's going up. Or did you catch the fresh going up. Or did you catch the fresh going up. Or did you catch the fresh insights on where pastors say they don't insights on where pastors say they don't insights on where pastors say they don't have enough support in their ministry?

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with it. with it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I go, "Where is there another one in >> I go, "Where is there another one in >> I go, "Where is there another one in this town?" I go, "You would do it if this town?" I go, "You would do it if this town?" I go, "You would do it if you were paid for it." Well, you did it you were paid for it." Well, you did it you were paid for it." Well, you did it when you were for it. when you were for it. when you were for it. >> Still would y >> Still would y >> Still would y >> Yeah. Don't tell anybody. >> Yeah. Don't tell anybody. >> Yeah. Don't tell anybody. >> Uh yeah. Um >> Uh yeah. Um >> Uh yeah. Um so, so my at the I guess my agent so, so my at the I guess my agent so, so my at the I guess my agent manager and I had submitted for the manager and I had submitted for the manager and I had submitted for the Tonight Show before. I mean, Tonight Show before. I mean, Tonight Show before. I mean, and we go watch. and we go watch. and we go watch. >> So, they sent him a like a clip. >> So, they sent him a like a clip. >> So, they sent him a like a clip. >> Send him a clip. Yeah. And they said um >> Send him a clip. Yeah. And they said um >> Send him a clip. Yeah. And they said um I mean, no. There was like I a couple I mean, no. There was like I a couple I mean, no. There was like I a couple different then and then and then they different then and then and then they different then and then and then they goes goes goes >> hey we heard back >> hey we heard back >> hey we heard back >> from the it's not Jimmy Fallon review >> from the it's not Jimmy Fallon review >> from the it's not Jimmy Fallon review and it's like they heard back he said and it's like they heard back he said and it's like they heard back he said they liked they liked the they liked they liked the they liked they liked the >> they liked it but there's a lot of >> they liked it but there's a lot of >> they liked it but there's a lot of things that need to be fixed you know things that need to be fixed you know things that need to be fixed you know this joke needs to go this angle needs this joke needs to go this angle needs this joke needs to go this angle needs to go this setup needs to go can't talk to go this setup needs to go can't talk to go this setup needs to go can't talk about these two businesses by name about these two businesses by name about these two businesses by name because they're advertisers we got to because they're advertisers we got to because they're advertisers we got to switch this and he goes but but switch this and he goes but but switch this and he goes but but >> they like and that and that sent me down >> they like and that and that sent me down >> they like and that and that sent me down the path the Oh, yeah. So, the path the Oh, yeah. So, the path the Oh, yeah. So, >> so you had to submit a couple times. You >> so you had to submit a couple times. You >> so you had to submit a couple times. You >> Well, every time Tuesday, Wednesday, >> Well, every time Tuesday, Wednesday, >> Well, every time Tuesday, Wednesday, first of all, my home club is Zy's here first of all, my home club is Zy's here first of all, my home club is Zy's here in Nashville. So, you can do um I can go in Nashville. So, you can do um I can go in Nashville. So, you can do um I can go there every night, film it, and send it.

there every night, film it, and send it. there every night, film it, and send it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> So, we did this >> So, we did this >> So, we did this before we got approved before we got approved before we got approved 50 times. 50 times. 50 times. >> 50. >> 50. >> 50. And he goes, "I like it. I just don't And he goes, "I like it. I just don't And he goes, "I like it. I just don't like that joke. what would it be like like that joke. what would it be like like that joke. what would it be like without that joke? I go, I just sent it without that joke? I go, I just sent it without that joke? I go, I just sent it to you. Just you you know what it's like to you. Just you you know what it's like to you. Just you you know what it's like without that joke. I just take that joke without that joke. I just take that joke without that joke. I just take that joke out. He goes, I want to see the whole out. He goes, I want to see the whole out. He goes, I want to see the whole thing again. Do you want to see the thing again. Do you want to see the thing again. Do you want to see the pacing, the rhythm, the setups, the And pacing, the rhythm, the setups, the And pacing, the rhythm, the setups, the And then um and I remember cuz I'm I do then um and I remember cuz I'm I do then um and I remember cuz I'm I do five, six hours of standup on the five, six hours of standup on the five, six hours of standup on the weekends and I go, I can't believe every weekends and I go, I can't believe every weekends and I go, I can't believe every Monday I'm coming back to go down to Monday I'm coming back to go down to Monday I'm coming back to go down to this comedy club for five minutes to this comedy club for five minutes to this comedy club for five minutes to practice. And I hated practice. And I hated practice. And I hated the idea of practicing a a rigid set. the idea of practicing a a rigid set. the idea of practicing a a rigid set. Every word I go I wanted to just go up Every word I go I wanted to just go up Every word I go I wanted to just go up there and freestyle. there and freestyle. there and freestyle. >> My oh my comedy's like that. My my >> My oh my comedy's like that. My my >> My oh my comedy's like that. My my comedy is not really fit for the Tonight comedy is not really fit for the Tonight comedy is not really fit for the Tonight Show in terms of I just go have an idea. Show in terms of I just go have an idea. Show in terms of I just go have an idea. >> So script >> So script >> So script >> every word every word, every second, >> every word every word, every second, >> every word every word, every second, every look, every everything. And so you every look, every everything. And so you every look, every everything. And so you go I gosh it's so and you can't uh what go I gosh it's so and you can't uh what go I gosh it's so and you can't uh what I hated about it the most which is a I hated about it the most which is a I hated about it the most which is a good uh strategy learned. You can't go good uh strategy learned. You can't go good uh strategy learned. You can't go up and introduce yourself either, up and introduce yourself either, up and introduce yourself either, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Yo, what's up? What's going on in >> Yo, what's up? What's going on in >> Yo, what's up? What's going on in Peterberg, the show you came to? Good to Peterberg, the show you came to? Good to Peterberg, the show you came to? Good to be in Canada. We drove in. The gas be in Canada. We drove in. The gas be in Canada. We drove in. The gas stations up here are different. We'll stations up here are different. We'll stations up here are different. We'll we'll we'll introduce We'll do the we'll we'll introduce We'll do the we'll we'll introduce We'll do the >> You'll totally riff off. >> You'll totally riff off. >> You'll totally riff off. >> We'll do the um small talk before we get >> We'll do the um small talk before we get >> We'll do the um small talk before we get into the thing I came here to say. It into the thing I came here to say. It into the thing I came here to say. It would be disrespectful to just walk in would be disrespectful to just walk in would be disrespectful to just walk in the door and be like, the door and be like, the door and be like, >> but he said it's it in the Tonight Show, >> but he said it's it in the Tonight Show, >> but he said it's it in the Tonight Show, you don't have time for anything. you don't have time for anything. you don't have time for anything. >> So, it's like a TED talk. It's like >> So, it's like a TED talk. It's like >> So, it's like a TED talk. It's like getting a TED talk. It's like they work getting a TED talk. It's like they work getting a TED talk. It's like they work with you for months. with you for months. with you for months. >> Everything's got to be scripted. No >> Everything's got to be scripted. No >> Everything's got to be scripted. No offscript, no ad libing, offscript, no ad libing, offscript, no ad libing, >> nothing. No, >> nothing. No, >> nothing. No, >> man. Okay, so 50 attempts. >> man. Okay, so 50 attempts. >> man. Okay, so 50 attempts. >> I mean, yeah, but I I and I go I told >> I mean, yeah, but I I and I go I told >> I mean, yeah, but I I and I go I told Lydia, I go, "Man, if if this one Lydia, I go, "Man, if if this one Lydia, I go, "Man, if if this one doesn't uh if this one doesn't go, I doesn't uh if this one doesn't go, I doesn't uh if this one doesn't go, I think I got to think I got to think I got to It makes me emotional to to say it." I It makes me emotional to to say it." I It makes me emotional to to say it." I go, "If this one doesn't go, I think I'm go, "If this one doesn't go, I think I'm go, "If this one doesn't go, I think I'm uh uh uh think it's not for me." I don't even think it's not for me." I don't even think it's not for me." I don't even know why that makes me emotional to say. know why that makes me emotional to say. know why that makes me emotional to say. I go, I go, I go, >> it's a dream. >> it's a dream. >> it's a dream. >> Yeah. And I think I was I was I was u >> Yeah. And I think I was I was I was u >> Yeah. And I think I was I was I was u ready to like, ready to like, ready to like, >> hey, I got a lot of people that like me >> hey, I got a lot of people that like me >> hey, I got a lot of people that like me in this area and I'll just Hollywood or in this area and I'll just Hollywood or in this area and I'll just Hollywood or whoever has clearly said that they're whoever has clearly said that they're whoever has clearly said that they're not interested. I'll just not interested. I'll just not interested. I'll just Thanks for your time.

Thanks for your time. Thanks for your time. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes me sad to think Yeah. Yeah. Which makes me sad to think Yeah. Yeah. Which makes me sad to think Yeah, I I'm sure there's like a million Yeah, I I'm sure there's like a million Yeah, I I'm sure there's like a million books about you were so close to success books about you were so close to success books about you were so close to success before you gave up or you know there's a before you gave up or you know there's a before you gave up or you know there's a bunch of a bunch of leaders have come in bunch of a bunch of leaders have come in bunch of a bunch of leaders have come in here. My book failed 16 times and then here. My book failed 16 times and then here. My book failed 16 times and then the 17th time it was you know the 17th time it was you know the 17th time it was you know >> but you're getting to the point where >> but you're getting to the point where >> but you're getting to the point where you were worn down. you were worn down. you were worn down. >> Worn down. >> Worn down. >> Worn down. >> Worn down. Once again they didn't see >> Worn down. Once again they didn't see >> Worn down. Once again they didn't see it. Once again they didn't quite wasn't it. Once again they didn't quite wasn't it. Once again they didn't quite wasn't quite good. quite good. quite good. >> It wasn't Yeah. And I was like, "Guys, I don't Yeah. And I was like, "Guys, I don't know what more I can I mean, this is I know what more I can I mean, this is I know what more I can I mean, this is I feel like they were just messing with feel like they were just messing with feel like they were just messing with it. it. it. >> Move the comma. >> Move the comma. >> Move the comma. >> They were messing either at this point. >> They were messing either at this point. >> They were messing either at this point. Either I you think I can do it or you Either I you think I can do it or you Either I you think I can do it or you think I can't do it." think I can't do it." think I can't do it." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This is I feel like it was a humiliation >> This is I feel like it was a humiliation >> This is I feel like it was a humiliation ritual ritual ritual >> that I kept. >> that I kept. >> that I kept. And then I was sitting at my on the uh And then I was sitting at my on the uh And then I was sitting at my on the uh island at my uh my kitchen and uh I island at my uh my kitchen and uh I island at my uh my kitchen and uh I didn't see the notification count come didn't see the notification count come didn't see the notification count come up because I was doing other stuff. And up because I was doing other stuff. And up because I was doing other stuff. And then I would check my email from my then I would check my email from my then I would check my email from my manager said, "Uh, June 23rd, you got to manager said, "Uh, June 23rd, you got to manager said, "Uh, June 23rd, you got to tonight show."

tonight show." tonight show." And I think it's just uh it was uh I think it's just uh it was uh maybe a uh that that maybe that group had like that that maybe that group had like cast me out or maybe I thought I was um cast me out or maybe I thought I was um cast me out or maybe I thought I was um I don't know. I knew I was a good I don't know. I knew I was a good I don't know. I knew I was a good comedian. I knew I was deserving, but comedian. I knew I was deserving, but comedian. I knew I was deserving, but maybe that we don't uh maybe I think maybe that we don't uh maybe I think maybe that we don't uh maybe I think there's a lot of uh oh, he's a he was a there's a lot of uh oh, he's a he was a there's a lot of uh oh, he's a he was a he's just a Christian or he did I don't he's just a Christian or he did I don't he's just a Christian or he did I don't do churches anymore, but they're like, do churches anymore, but they're like, do churches anymore, but they're like, "Oh, he's like the he does churches or "Oh, he's like the he does churches or "Oh, he's like the he does churches or he it doesn't count." And it's and you he it doesn't count." And it's and you he it doesn't count." And it's and you know who who told me that? Nobody. I was know who who told me that? Nobody. I was know who who told me that? Nobody. I was made up in my own head.

made up in my own head. made up in my own head. >> For the most part, nobody cared. Nobody >> For the most part, nobody cared. Nobody >> For the most part, nobody cared. Nobody that's a made up thing I made up anyway. that's a made up thing I made up anyway. that's a made up thing I made up anyway. And to be like, hey, you are, And to be like, hey, you are, And to be like, hey, you are, >> I don't know, a part of this group or >> I don't know, a part of this group or >> I don't know, a part of this group or like you earn this on merit and this is like you earn this on merit and this is like you earn this on merit and this is very hard to achieve. very hard to achieve. very hard to achieve. And I had also put in And I had also put in And I had also put in a ton of work not only on the road for a ton of work not only on the road for a ton of work not only on the road for 15 years but in that set I put in a a a 15 years but in that set I put in a a a 15 years but in that set I put in a a a tremendous amount of work and I almost tremendous amount of work and I almost tremendous amount of work and I almost gave up gave up gave up and to it was and I uh you know it's the and to it was and I uh you know it's the and to it was and I uh you know it's the wildest part about it. wildest part about it. wildest part about it. I wrote about this in my book that um I got on TV. I got on Live at Gotham in I got on TV. I got on Live at Gotham in 2009 or 200. It's like a a Comedy 2009 or 200. It's like a a Comedy 2009 or 200. It's like a a Comedy Central show that was Central show that was Central show that was >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Nobody It was No, it was on like Axis TV >> Nobody It was No, it was on like Axis TV >> Nobody It was No, it was on like Axis TV or something, but I made it to TV. or something, but I made it to TV. or something, but I made it to TV. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> It's huge for me. for me this way a long >> It's huge for me. for me this way a long >> It's huge for me. for me this way a long time ago and I and I was in a very time ago and I and I was in a very time ago and I and I was in a very unhealthy place in life and doing it for unhealthy place in life and doing it for unhealthy place in life and doing it for likes and doing it for people's likes and doing it for people's likes and doing it for people's attention and for girls and y attention and for girls and y attention and for girls and y >> and I'll never forget this >> and I'll never forget this >> and I'll never forget this called my mom and dad and I said I made called my mom and dad and I said I made called my mom and dad and I said I made it on TV and I thought I wrote this in it on TV and I thought I wrote this in it on TV and I thought I wrote this in my book I thought my uh my parents my book I thought my uh my parents my book I thought my uh my parents were going to be like let's get a were going to be like let's get a were going to be like let's get a projector set it up in the backyard projector set it up in the backyard projector set it up in the backyard let's get 700 chair cars. Let's invite

let's get 700 chair cars. Let's invite let's get 700 chair cars. Let's invite the neighborhood. I don't know why. the neighborhood. I don't know why. the neighborhood. I don't know why. Right. Right. Like our son made it. Right. Right. Like our son made it. Right. Right. Like our son made it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Let's invite everybody. Let's I'm going >> Let's invite everybody. Let's I'm going >> Let's invite everybody. Let's I'm going to get on the I'm going to tell to get on the I'm going to tell to get on the I'm going to tell everybody we're going to have a huge everybody we're going to have a huge everybody we're going to have a huge party. And my mother and we've worked party. And my mother and we've worked party. And my mother and we've worked through this since. But my mother said, through this since. But my mother said, through this since. But my mother said, "We don't have that channel." I I mean, brother John, I I mean, brother John, >> you know what I'm saying? And these are >> you know what I'm saying? And these are >> you know what I'm saying? And these are again things I made up in my head or again things I made up in my head or again things I made up in my head or like we don't have that channel. And it like we don't have that channel. And it like we don't have that channel. And it was was was devastating devastating devastating just so just so just so debilitating of a feeling to call and debilitating of a feeling to call and debilitating of a feeling to call and and my parents you know I love them and and my parents you know I love them and and my parents you know I love them and they just were at the time they they had they just were at the time they they had they just were at the time they they had no context of how hard it would be to no context of how hard it would be to no context of how hard it would be to get to even get they didn't know what it get to even get they didn't know what it get to even get they didn't know what it meant. And now >> I get to tonight's show and I >> I get to tonight's show and I Well, they have NBC. Yeah, they have Well, they have NBC. Yeah, they have Well, they have NBC. Yeah, they have NBC. Funny.

NBC. Funny. NBC. Funny. >> It's a network. You don't not have NBC. >> It's a network. You don't not have NBC. >> It's a network. You don't not have NBC. >> NBC. >> NBC. >> NBC. >> Um >> Um >> Um that they go it I I mean that's what 10 years later maybe. I mean that's what 10 years later maybe. And it was for And it was for And it was for it was for everyone and no one for in in it was for everyone and no one for in in it was for everyone and no one for in in a way that like I did this for myself a way that like I did this for myself a way that like I did this for myself and I'm proud and I'm going to tell by and I'm proud and I'm going to tell by and I'm proud and I'm going to tell by the way everybody and whatever their the way everybody and whatever their the way everybody and whatever their response is that's okay. And I and my response is that's okay. And I and my response is that's okay. And I and my and I call I pulled over on the way home and I call I pulled over on the way home and I call I pulled over on the way home right here in Franklin. pulled over from right here in Franklin. pulled over from right here in Franklin. pulled over from the at the golf course, facetimed my uh the at the golf course, facetimed my uh the at the golf course, facetimed my uh >> down the same road really facetimed my >> down the same road really facetimed my >> down the same road really facetimed my parents and my dad was uh taking a nap parents and my dad was uh taking a nap parents and my dad was uh taking a nap and I go, "Can you go wake dad up?" And and I go, "Can you go wake dad up?" And and I go, "Can you go wake dad up?" And I told my parents I told my parents I told my parents >> and they were so happy and so >> and they were so happy and so >> and they were so happy and so thrilled and not and I and I and I I've thrilled and not and I and I and I I've thrilled and not and I and I and I I've done a lot of therapy obviously. into done a lot of therapy obviously. into done a lot of therapy obviously. into rehab. And I go like I I know that um rehab. And I go like I I know that um rehab. And I go like I I know that um >> they said when you make amends to >> they said when you make amends to >> they said when you make amends to somebody from your past that whatever somebody from your past that whatever somebody from your past that whatever they say is irrelevant. You need to make they say is irrelevant. You need to make they say is irrelevant. You need to make this amends for you. So if you say hey I this amends for you. So if you say hey I this amends for you. So if you say hey I I mistreated you I mistreated you I mistreated you uh 10 years ago. I'm so sorry. If the uh 10 years ago. I'm so sorry. If the uh 10 years ago. I'm so sorry. If the hopefully person goes I receive that.

hopefully person goes I receive that. hopefully person goes I receive that. >> I I thank you for saying that and you're >> I I thank you for saying that and you're >> I I thank you for saying that and you're forgiven and I love you and let's be forgiven and I love you and let's be forgiven and I love you and let's be friends. But they could say, "I don't friends. But they could say, "I don't friends. But they could say, "I don't accept that. I'm still hurt by what you accept that. I'm still hurt by what you accept that. I'm still hurt by what you said and I don't accept your apology and said and I don't accept your apology and said and I don't accept your apology and I'm actually pissed that you called." I'm actually pissed that you called." I'm actually pissed that you called." >> Y >> Y >> Y >> that is they are allowed to do that too. >> that is they are allowed to do that too. >> that is they are allowed to do that too. >> But you did your part. >> But you did your part. >> But you did your part. >> You did you have to do it for you but >> You did you have to do it for you but >> You did you have to do it for you but for you. for you. for you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Not I now I hope >> Not I now I hope >> Not I now I hope >> that my parents would would >> that my parents would would >> that my parents would would and by the way every I told dude I told and by the way every I told dude I told and by the way every I told dude I told so many people. I just said I and I go, so many people. I just said I and I go, so many people. I just said I and I go, "Dude, I got the Tonight Show." And "Dude, I got the Tonight Show." And "Dude, I got the Tonight Show." And everybody was like, "Dude, I'm so everybody was like, "Dude, I'm so everybody was like, "Dude, I'm so honored honored honored that you would call me before I just saw that you would call me before I just saw that you would call me before I just saw it." it." it." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> On Instagram or I saw it. They go, "I >> On Instagram or I saw it. They go, "I >> On Instagram or I saw it. They go, "I just want to let you know that I mean just want to let you know that I mean just want to let you know that I mean Dustin, Aaron Weber, my old managers, Dustin, Aaron Weber, my old managers, Dustin, Aaron Weber, my old managers, uh, Mason, my old tour manager that uh, Mason, my old tour manager that uh, Mason, my old tour manager that we've been in the we've been in the we've been in the >> sluming it." >> sluming it." >> sluming it." >> And I go, "Dude, >> And I go, "Dude, >> And I go, "Dude, >> the bad hotels." and I got I just made >> the bad hotels." and I got I just made >> the bad hotels." and I got I just made it on the Tonight Show and they were it on the Tonight Show and they were it on the Tonight Show and they were >> thrilled rather.

>> thrilled rather. >> thrilled rather. >> You know, that is one of the things >> You know, that is one of the things >> You know, that is one of the things that's so important. I've got a few that's so important. I've got a few that's so important. I've got a few friends too that friends too that friends too that >> if something good happens because you >> if something good happens because you >> if something good happens because you don't want to come off as flexing or don't want to come off as flexing or don't want to come off as flexing or bragging, bragging, bragging, >> but you know, if I land a particular >> but you know, if I land a particular >> but you know, if I land a particular guest or something happens in my life guest or something happens in my life guest or something happens in my life that to me is a jump up and down moment, that to me is a jump up and down moment, that to me is a jump up and down moment, which doesn't happen a lot. It is so which doesn't happen a lot. It is so which doesn't happen a lot. It is so great to have those friends who are great to have those friends who are great to have those friends who are like, "We are high-fiving with you and like, "We are high-fiving with you and like, "We are high-fiving with you and who get it, who know what that means." who get it, who know what that means." who get it, who know what that means." Because most people are like, "Oh, Because most people are like, "Oh, Because most people are like, "Oh, you're on the tit. That's awesome. I you're on the tit. That's awesome. I you're on the tit. That's awesome. I don't know how that works." Blah, blah, don't know how that works." Blah, blah, don't know how that works." Blah, blah, blah. Or that's it. And they're like, blah. Or that's it. And they're like, blah. Or that's it. And they're like, >> I give you eight minutes. >> I give you eight minutes. >> I give you eight minutes. >> I texted you when I saw it and I'm like, >> I texted you when I saw it and I'm like, >> I texted you when I saw it and I'm like, I am so proud of you cuz I know how hard I am so proud of you cuz I know how hard I am so proud of you cuz I know how hard you fought. you fought. you fought. >> Thank you. Really? >> Thank you. Really? >> Thank you. Really? >> I know how hard you fought. I know >> I know how hard you fought. I know >> I know how hard you fought. I know clawing back over the last six years. clawing back over the last six years. clawing back over the last six years. I'm I was just so delighted. But I also I'm I was just so delighted. But I also I'm I was just so delighted. But I also know that that is a Super Bowl. I know know that that is a Super Bowl. I know know that that is a Super Bowl. I know enough. I'm not a comedian, but I know enough. I'm not a comedian, but I know enough. I'm not a comedian, but I know enough to know that that is not, you enough to know that that is not, you enough to know that that is not, you know, what do what do we say sometimes, know, what do what do we say sometimes, know, what do what do we say sometimes, you know, when when my kids, they got you know, when when my kids, they got you know, when when my kids, they got into this really good, my oldest into an into this really good, my oldest into an into this really good, my oldest into an engineering school and I was really engineering school and I was really engineering school and I was really proud of him and you know, he gets proud of him and you know, he gets proud of him and you know, he gets intimidated. He's like, "Dad, intimidated. He's like, "Dad, intimidated. He's like, "Dad, everybody's smart." I'm like, "Hey, man.

everybody's smart." I'm like, "Hey, man. everybody's smart." I'm like, "Hey, man. This was not an act of charity." This was not an act of charity." This was not an act of charity." >> Yes. Hunter. >> Yes. Hunter. >> Yes. Hunter. >> Like they did not let you in. Jimmy >> Like they did not let you in. Jimmy >> Like they did not let you in. Jimmy Fallon didn't feel sorry for you. No. Fallon didn't feel sorry for you. No. Fallon didn't feel sorry for you. No. >> And say like, "All right, come on here >> And say like, "All right, come on here >> And say like, "All right, come on here and do and do and do >> fine. He's worked hard enough. >> fine. He's worked hard enough. >> fine. He's worked hard enough. >> He's worked hard enough. No, dude. Like >> He's worked hard enough. No, dude. Like >> He's worked hard enough. No, dude. Like that is really seriously amazing. that is really seriously amazing. that is really seriously amazing. >> I think I think the um to his credit uh >> I think I think the um to his credit uh >> I think I think the um to his credit uh I first heard about that from John Auff. I first heard about that from John Auff. I first heard about that from John Auff. He talked about this is he talk about a He talked about this is he talk about a He talked about this is he talk about a thing called the brag table thing called the brag table thing called the brag table >> and he he would say he would say heard >> and he he would say he would say heard >> and he he would say he would say heard permission to approach the brag table. permission to approach the brag table. permission to approach the brag table. He would do in a way that He would do in a way that He would do in a way that >> that's a great phrasing. You're like, >> that's a great phrasing. You're like, >> that's a great phrasing. You're like, "Yeah, what if and there are there are "Yeah, what if and there are there are "Yeah, what if and there are there are people that were that were um people that were that were um people that were that were um uh I I try to do my I mean when people uh I I try to do my I mean when people uh I I try to do my I mean when people would call me and tell me that they got would call me and tell me that they got would call me and tell me that they got good then you go, "Yeah, dude, let's good then you go, "Yeah, dude, let's good then you go, "Yeah, dude, let's sell if let's go to dinner." sell if let's go to dinner." sell if let's go to dinner." >> Or else what are we doing here? >> Or else what are we doing here? >> Or else what are we doing here? >> Right. Because you'll reach out to those >> Right. Because you'll reach out to those >> Right. Because you'll reach out to those people when you're at the bottom. Yeah. people when you're at the bottom. Yeah. people when you're at the bottom. Yeah. >> When you're like, "Guess what? We just >> When you're like, "Guess what? We just >> When you're like, "Guess what? We just broke up. Guess what? This isn't broke up. Guess what? This isn't broke up. Guess what? This isn't working. Guess what? Like working. Guess what? Like working. Guess what? Like >> I got a call.

>> I got a call. >> I got a call. um five months ago, maybe six, from a very five months ago, maybe six, from a very very very very someone very very close to me and said, someone very very close to me and said, someone very very close to me and said, "We just lost a baby." one of my best friends obviously and you one of my best friends obviously and you go, "Yeah, it was sad." and we've sat go, "Yeah, it was sad." and we've sat go, "Yeah, it was sad." and we've sat together, you know, and and we together, you know, and and we together, you know, and and we they've come through it obviously, but they've come through it obviously, but they've come through it obviously, but but we go but we go but we go um um um after I told I told my fiance this after after I told I told my fiance this after after I told I told my fiance this after a couple weeks, I go, "You know what? a couple weeks, I go, "You know what? a couple weeks, I go, "You know what? I was honored to get that call I was honored to get that call I was honored to get that call because and there were some other people because and there were some other people because and there were some other people very very close to us that he told me he very very close to us that he told me he very very close to us that he told me he didn't call and I I you would think to yourself so and I I you would think to yourself so that guy was in in the dark that guy was in in the dark that guy was in in the dark the darkest the darkest the darkest point of his life to this point and he point of his life to this point and he point of his life to this point and he goes I bet John could too with this goes I bet John could too with this goes I bet John could too with this which is which is which is I don't think there's any higher I don't think there's any higher I don't think there's any higher mark of a friendship. There you go. And mark of a friendship. There you go. And mark of a friendship. There you go. And I and I went I uh I and I went I uh I and I went I uh when I got to Tonight Show, this is that when I got to Tonight Show, this is that when I got to Tonight Show, this is that was after that. And Lydia said, "You was after that. And Lydia said, "You was after that. And Lydia said, "You should go to his house and tell him should go to his house and tell him should go to his house and tell him should tell him in person."

should tell him in person." should tell him in person." >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And I did. >> And I did. >> And I did. >> You did? >> You did? >> You did? >> Yeah. And he was equally as thrilled. >> Yeah. And he was equally as thrilled. >> Yeah. And he was equally as thrilled. overjoyed as you were sad. overjoyed as you were sad. overjoyed as you were sad. >> Obviously, dude. Yeah, cuz you go uh >> Obviously, dude. Yeah, cuz you go uh >> Obviously, dude. Yeah, cuz you go uh Yeah. Some people you're going to Yeah. Some people you're going to Yeah. Some people you're going to FaceTime somebody like, "Dude, I got to FaceTime somebody like, "Dude, I got to FaceTime somebody like, "Dude, I got to tell you this in person cuz I want to be tell you this in person cuz I want to be tell you this in person cuz I want to be there to to celebrate or in pain cuz there to to celebrate or in pain cuz there to to celebrate or in pain cuz otherwise otherwise otherwise now if you get a if you get a uh now if you get a if you get a uh now if you get a if you get a uh let's see a a small like promotion at let's see a a small like promotion at let's see a a small like promotion at work or something like that, you get a 3 work or something like that, you get a 3 work or something like that, you get a 3 4% increase." You were like, "You got to 4% increase." You were like, "You got to 4% increase." You were like, "You got to tell your we don't need to have a party tell your we don't need to have a party tell your we don't need to have a party for this." But you're like, you you for this." But you're like, you you for this." But you're like, you you should be like, "Man, should be like, "Man, should be like, "Man, that's awesome. Get the get the waiter that's awesome. Get the get the waiter that's awesome. Get the get the waiter to put a candle in this thing and let's to put a candle in this thing and let's to put a candle in this thing and let's celebrate. Bring it over. Just like celebrate. Bring it over. Just like celebrate. Bring it over. Just like otherwise, what are we doing here? What otherwise, what are we doing here? What otherwise, what are we doing here? What am I doing on earth?" am I doing on earth?" am I doing on earth?" >> I think there's so many people watching >> I think there's so many people watching >> I think there's so many people watching this who either don't have a friend that this who either don't have a friend that this who either don't have a friend that they could share high with they could share high with they could share high with >> or wouldn't do it because they're >> or wouldn't do it because they're >> or wouldn't do it because they're afraid. I love Akuff's framing of the afraid. I love Akuff's framing of the afraid. I love Akuff's framing of the brag tip. Yeah, I think brag tip. Yeah, I think brag tip. Yeah, I think >> you need to have I got two guys, three >> you need to have I got two guys, three >> you need to have I got two guys, three guys easy. Probably could expand that guys easy. Probably could expand that guys easy. Probably could expand that circle to four or five circle to four or five circle to four or five >> that I would be like, can I tell you >> that I would be like, can I tell you >> that I would be like, can I tell you some really great news?

some really great news? some really great news? >> And if and if this is incredible. And if >> And if and if this is incredible. And if >> And if and if this is incredible. And if you if you like you if you like you if you like I had a buddy the other day. He goes my I had a buddy the other day. He goes my I had a buddy the other day. He goes my my my my like daughter like daughter like daughter is uh is uh is uh we went out of town for the soccer thing we went out of town for the soccer thing we went out of town for the soccer thing and she scored four goals and hey here's and she scored four goals and hey here's and she scored four goals and hey here's a video of my daughter a video of my daughter a video of my daughter scoring going through traffic and scoring going through traffic and scoring going through traffic and scoring a goal. How scoring a goal. How scoring a goal. How I don't even have children, but how I don't even have children, but how I don't even have children, but how sad sad sad for someone to put that out and to be for someone to put that out and to be for someone to put that out and to be like just put a heart on it. Does that make sense? Does that make sense? >> It makes a lot of sense. >> It makes a lot of sense. >> It makes a lot of sense. >> And you go, man, I thought I was being >> And you go, man, I thought I was being >> And you go, man, I thought I was being so like that I was being so You're so like that I was being so You're so like that I was being so You're vulnerable in success and failure. They vulnerable in success and failure. They vulnerable in success and failure. They go, "Dude, my daughter just we were all go, "Dude, my daughter just we were all go, "Dude, my daughter just we were all the way down there." And I go, "Dude, the way down there." And I go, "Dude, the way down there." And I go, "Dude, tell me about the other team. tell me about the other team. tell me about the other team. >> Tell me about Dude, so who what ages >> Tell me about Dude, so who what ages >> Tell me about Dude, so who what ages were this?" So she just made that. How were this?" So she just made that. How were this?" So she just made that. How did she make that team? And how did she did she make that team? And how did she did she make that team? And how did she look at how the way she her look at how the way she her look at how the way she her >> Tell me about the play. What was it like >> Tell me about the play. What was it like >> Tell me about the play. What was it like after? How did she feel?

after? How did she feel? after? How did she feel? >> Like I I care. I really care. >> Like I I care. I really care. >> Like I I care. I really care. >> And I can't do that for everybody. >> And I can't do that for everybody. >> And I can't do that for everybody. Obviously, neither can you. But you're Obviously, neither can you. But you're Obviously, neither can you. But you're like, like, like, >> "You need a handful. You need a small >> "You need a handful. You need a small >> "You need a handful. You need a small circle that you can do that." circle that you can do that." circle that you can do that." >> She just got her video just went viral. >> She just got her video just went viral. >> She just got her video just went viral. let's or whatever. Or or let's or whatever. Or or let's or whatever. Or or >> you just bought a house. >> you just bought a house. >> you just bought a house. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Or you we just got a like it's silly. >> Or you we just got a like it's silly. >> Or you we just got a like it's silly. It's it's commercial, but you're like It's it's commercial, but you're like It's it's commercial, but you're like you just got a new car. Let me see it. you just got a new car. Let me see it. you just got a new car. Let me see it. >> Can I drive in it? >> Can I drive in it? >> Can I drive in it? >> Let me look at I just want to sit in it. >> Let me look at I just want to sit in it. >> Let me look at I just want to sit in it. Oh, dude. Tell me about the Oh, dude. Tell me about the Oh, dude. Tell me about the >> And you're not being disingenuous, but >> And you're not being disingenuous, but >> And you're not being disingenuous, but you're like, you're like, you're like, >> "Well, what are we doing if we're not >> "Well, what are we doing if we're not >> "Well, what are we doing if we're not doing that to your close friends?" doing that to your close friends?" doing that to your close friends?" >> And you and they can't. And you I'm >> And you and they can't. And you I'm >> And you and they can't. And you I'm telling you just like my parents you go telling you just like my parents you go telling you just like my parents you go to that well to that well to that well and it is dry and it is dry and it is dry you will not keep coming back to it that you will not keep coming back to it that you will not keep coming back to it that the the you know with celebration or the the you know with celebration or the the you know with celebration or pain by the way. pain by the way. pain by the way. >> So I want to get back to tonight show in >> So I want to get back to tonight show in >> So I want to get back to tonight show in a bit but I was going to ask you about a bit but I was going to ask you about a bit but I was going to ask you about this because listening to your show and this because listening to your show and this because listening to your show and just seeing you there's a gratitude in just seeing you there's a gratitude in just seeing you there's a gratitude in you you you >> and I also see a heart in you. You know, >> and I also see a heart in you. You know, >> and I also see a heart in you. You know, it's a it's a rare thing because it's a it's a rare thing because it's a it's a rare thing because >> I know a few comedians. I don't know a >> I know a few comedians. I don't know a >> I know a few comedians. I don't know a lot of them. The the rumor is, you know, lot of them. The the rumor is, you know, lot of them. The the rumor is, you know, pretty unhappy life, that kind of thing.

pretty unhappy life, that kind of thing. pretty unhappy life, that kind of thing. >> There's a capacity for friendship in >> There's a capacity for friendship in >> There's a capacity for friendship in you. And if you know, if you're going to you. And if you know, if you're going to you. And if you know, if you're going to call the whole thing, like, you know, call the whole thing, like, you know, call the whole thing, like, you know, you're sitting there criticizing, arms you're sitting there criticizing, arms you're sitting there criticizing, arms crossed, like, I know what's really crossed, like, I know what's really crossed, like, I know what's really going on there. And yet, I see a joy in going on there. And yet, I see a joy in going on there. And yet, I see a joy in you. You're in love. You You're so far you. You're in love. You You're so far you. You're in love. You You're so far from where you were six years ago. from where you were six years ago. from where you were six years ago. It's really cool. First of all, John, It's really cool. First of all, John, It's really cool. First of all, John, way to go. way to go. way to go. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Secondly, >> Secondly, >> Secondly, >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> That's a really cool tension because >> That's a really cool tension because >> That's a really cool tension because it's easy to be the cynic who's just it's easy to be the cynic who's just it's easy to be the cynic who's just shut down on everything. shut down on everything. shut down on everything. >> I I don't know if there's anything to >> I I don't know if there's anything to >> I I don't know if there's anything to talk about there. I wanted to note it, talk about there. I wanted to note it, talk about there. I wanted to note it, but like there is that joy. I see the but like there is that joy. I see the but like there is that joy. I see the relational capacity. And you got the relational capacity. And you got the relational capacity. And you got the busiest schedule of anybody I know. I busiest schedule of anybody I know. I busiest schedule of anybody I know. I look at your tour dates. You're like, look at your tour dates. You're like, look at your tour dates. You're like, you're, you know, you're you're on the you're, you know, you're you're on the you're, you know, you're you're on the Tonight Show and then you're in some Tonight Show and then you're in some Tonight Show and then you're in some place in Louisiana that nobody's ever place in Louisiana that nobody's ever place in Louisiana that nobody's ever heard of, you know, doing a show, heard of, you know, doing a show, heard of, you know, doing a show, >> right? Um, >> right? Um, >> right? Um, I mean, I thought I wasn't. This is another I thought I wasn't. This is another thing that I made up in my head, but I I thing that I made up in my head, but I I thing that I made up in my head, but I I I was in re when I was in rehab and and I was in re when I was in rehab and and I go, man, this is go, man, this is go, man, this is this is BS. I don't deserve to be here.

this is BS. I don't deserve to be here. this is BS. I don't deserve to be here. I've been mistreated. Uh, people made up I've been mistreated. Uh, people made up I've been mistreated. Uh, people made up lies about me, which whatever. Some of lies about me, which whatever. Some of lies about me, which whatever. Some of it was true, some of it wasn't. And then it was true, some of it wasn't. And then it was true, some of it wasn't. And then you go, she go, "What? This little you go, she go, "What? This little you go, she go, "What? This little Peruvian lady in this in Wikcinberg, Peruvian lady in this in Wikcinberg, Peruvian lady in this in Wikcinberg, Arizona, sitting in this like shed of a Arizona, sitting in this like shed of a Arizona, sitting in this like shed of a therapy room." She goes, therapy room." She goes, therapy room." She goes, "That's kind of narcissistic that you "That's kind of narcissistic that you "That's kind of narcissistic that you think you deserved all that. think you deserved all that. think you deserved all that. What m Why did you deserve What m Why did you deserve What m Why did you deserve to not to not to not speaking of gratitude? Why do you Why speaking of gratitude? Why do you Why speaking of gratitude? Why do you Why does that person you Why do you deserve does that person you Why do you deserve does that person you Why do you deserve all that money, all that success, all all that money, all that success, all all that money, all that success, all that? You didn't deserve any of this. that? You didn't deserve any of this. that? You didn't deserve any of this. You don't deserve any of this. And You don't deserve any of this. And You don't deserve any of this. And neither does anybody. None of us do. You neither does anybody. None of us do. You neither does anybody. None of us do. You don't deserve to You don't even deserve don't deserve to You don't even deserve don't deserve to You don't even deserve to have the internet. You don't deserve to have the internet. You don't deserve to have the internet. You don't deserve You got a street that you could I could You got a street that you could I could You got a street that you could I could drive down here on a road. I didn't have drive down here on a road. I didn't have drive down here on a road. I didn't have to hack my way through the woods. That's to hack my way through the woods. That's to hack my way through the woods. That's unbelievable. She's like, "You didn't unbelievable. She's like, "You didn't unbelievable. She's like, "You didn't deserve any of this. Why? What? Why do deserve any of this. Why? What? Why do deserve any of this. Why? What? Why do you think you're so who are you that you you think you're so who are you that you you think you're so who are you that you deserve this lifestyle that nobody else?

deserve this lifestyle that nobody else? deserve this lifestyle that nobody else? And I go, "Oh." And then I think I I And I go, "Oh." And then I think I I And I go, "Oh." And then I think I I was left for I think I walked out of that place and I I think I walked out of that place and I go, "Well, I'm playing with house money go, "Well, I'm playing with house money go, "Well, I'm playing with house money now. now. now. I should be dead. I should be dead. I should be dead. I'm playing with house. Anything I'm playing with house. Anything I'm playing with house. Anything anything that happens now is anything that happens now is anything that happens now is water under the bridge. Like I should be water under the bridge. Like I should be water under the bridge. Like I should be I can't believe I'm still alive. And any I can't believe I'm still alive. And any I can't believe I'm still alive. And any kind we we have there's the challenges kind we we have there's the challenges kind we we have there's the challenges we face daily are we face daily are we face daily are immense. I would every everybody just immense. I would every everybody just immense. I would every everybody just just a monster just a monster just a monster challenges whether it's ter sales or challenges whether it's ter sales or challenges whether it's ter sales or rising costs or the economy or rising costs or the economy or rising costs or the economy or the podcast deal gets struck. We make a the podcast deal gets struck. We make a the podcast deal gets struck. We make a new deal. The the Facebook monetization new deal. The the Facebook monetization new deal. The the Facebook monetization goes they cut it. uh employees, HR, goes they cut it. uh employees, HR, goes they cut it. uh employees, HR, boss, there is a and I go, we don't have boss, there is a and I go, we don't have boss, there is a and I go, we don't have to do any of and I go, hey, you know to do any of and I go, hey, you know to do any of and I go, hey, you know what we do for a living? Tell jokes and what we do for a living? Tell jokes and what we do for a living? Tell jokes and there's 2,000 people in Hadtisburg there's 2,000 people in Hadtisburg there's 2,000 people in Hadtisburg tonight here to see us say the things tonight here to see us say the things tonight here to see us say the things that we just made up in our minds.

that we just made up in our minds. that we just made up in our minds. We're doing great. and you go, "Oh, We're doing great. and you go, "Oh, We're doing great. and you go, "Oh, there's 30 seats in the top that aren't there's 30 seats in the top that aren't there's 30 seats in the top that aren't full." I used to be like, full." I used to be like, full." I used to be like, and now I'm like, "This is and now I'm like, "This is and now I'm like, "This is unbelievable." unbelievable." unbelievable." >> Was it you? It might not have been. I >> Was it you? It might not have been. I >> Was it you? It might not have been. I was listening to a bunch of pods was listening to a bunch of pods was listening to a bunch of pods recently. recently. recently. >> I think this might have been rehab might >> I think this might have been rehab might >> I think this might have been rehab might or part of a therapy where you had to or part of a therapy where you had to or part of a therapy where you had to write gratitude lessons every day. We write gratitude lessons every day. We write gratitude lessons every day. We had to write something different. had to write something different. had to write something different. >> Okay. Talk to me about that cuz I >> Okay. Talk to me about that cuz I >> Okay. Talk to me about that cuz I thought thought thought >> I had to do that for 30 days cuz it's >> I had to do that for 30 days cuz it's >> I had to do that for 30 days cuz it's it's mindbending. it's mindbending. it's mindbending. >> Well, everybody talks about a gratitude. >> Well, everybody talks about a gratitude. >> Well, everybody talks about a gratitude. I think that's a very common I think that's a very common I think that's a very common >> gratitude. I'm grateful for my wife, my >> gratitude. I'm grateful for my wife, my >> gratitude. I'm grateful for my wife, my kids. kids. kids. >> First off, yeah, that would be the first >> First off, yeah, that would be the first >> First off, yeah, that would be the first thing. I'm grateful to have uh a place thing. I'm grateful to have uh a place thing. I'm grateful to have uh a place to live. I'm grateful for that. Uh I'm to live. I'm grateful for that. Uh I'm to live. I'm grateful for that. Uh I'm grateful. And then you go, "Well, I'm grateful. And then you go, "Well, I'm grateful. And then you go, "Well, I'm grateful for my legs." grateful for my legs." grateful for my legs." And you go, "I'm grateful for uh the And you go, "I'm grateful for uh the And you go, "I'm grateful for uh the idea that I can get up and make food.

idea that I can get up and make food. idea that I can get up and make food. I'm grateful for air conditioning. I'm I'm grateful for air conditioning. I'm I'm grateful for air conditioning. I'm grateful for if I do want to come down grateful for if I do want to come down grateful for if I do want to come down here and see you, I have the means to do here and see you, I have the means to do here and see you, I have the means to do that. I'm grateful for air travel. I'm that. I'm grateful for air travel. I'm that. I'm grateful for air travel. I'm grateful for FaceTime." You're like all grateful for FaceTime." You're like all grateful for FaceTime." You're like all these things that are just and then it these things that are just and then it these things that are just and then it does look I remember we were all does look I remember we were all does look I remember we were all we were all so sad one day in rehab this we were all so sad one day in rehab this we were all so sad one day in rehab this everybody is coming there from burning everybody is coming there from burning everybody is coming there from burning their life to the ground in some way or their life to the ground in some way or their life to the ground in some way or another and we it I remember it was like another and we it I remember it was like another and we it I remember it was like maybe it was like gloomy it was like maybe it was like gloomy it was like maybe it was like gloomy it was like overcast and the and the therapist could overcast and the and the therapist could overcast and the and the therapist could kind of tell that the mood around here kind of tell that the mood around here kind of tell that the mood around here was just so low and they go was just so low and they go was just so low and they go I want everybody I still have this in I want everybody I still have this in I want everybody I still have this in house. They go, I want everybody to house. They go, I want everybody to house. They go, I want everybody to write write write a hundred a hundred a hundred goals goals goals for yourself from upon leaving here. A for yourself from upon leaving here. A for yourself from upon leaving here. A hundred. And it could be as easy as I hundred. And it could be as easy as I hundred. And it could be as easy as I want to sink my teeth into a chicken a want to sink my teeth into a chicken a want to sink my teeth into a chicken a Chick-fil-A sandwich again. Chick-fil-A sandwich again. Chick-fil-A sandwich again. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. I want to I want to >> Right. I want to I want to >> Right. I want to I want to >> waffle fries for the win.

>> waffle fries for the win. >> waffle fries for the win. >> I want to have a birdie on the golf >> I want to have a birdie on the golf >> I want to have a birdie on the golf course. Uh I want to see my nephew course. Uh I want to see my nephew course. Uh I want to see my nephew again. And then they go smallest to again. And then they go smallest to again. And then they go smallest to largest. I want to be on the Tonight largest. I want to be on the Tonight largest. I want to be on the Tonight Show. I bet that was probably on there. Show. I bet that was probably on there. Show. I bet that was probably on there. I want to have a I want to get married. I want to have a I want to get married. I want to have a I want to get married. >> I want to all those thing. Write them >> I want to all those thing. Write them >> I want to all those thing. Write them all. Smallest to largest, a hundred all. Smallest to largest, a hundred all. Smallest to largest, a hundred things that you would like to do. And things that you would like to do. And things that you would like to do. And I'm telling you, we all did it. And then I'm telling you, we all did it. And then I'm telling you, we all did it. And then we all started talking. Give us five. Or we all started talking. Give us five. Or we all started talking. Give us five. Or we all started talking. And then she we all started talking. And then she we all started talking. And then she goes, "Look at the mood around here." goes, "Look at the mood around here." goes, "Look at the mood around here." And everybody was And everybody was And everybody was stoked. stoked. stoked. >> Does that make sense? We didn't know >> Does that make sense? We didn't know >> Does that make sense? We didn't know what she was doing, but she was doing an what she was doing, but she was doing an what she was doing, but she was doing an we go, "Dude, and when I get out of we go, "Dude, and when I get out of we go, "Dude, and when I get out of here, oh man, so my nephew, he has this here, oh man, so my nephew, he has this here, oh man, so my nephew, he has this outfit that he likes to wear and we outfit that he likes to wear and we outfit that he likes to wear and we throw the football and everybody was throw the football and everybody was throw the football and everybody was like and she goes, "Look what look what like and she goes, "Look what look what like and she goes, "Look what look what just happened. just happened. just happened. >> That's awesome." No, I I've seen Same >> That's awesome." No, I I've seen Same >> That's awesome." No, I I've seen Same with the gratitude. Does that make with the gratitude. Does that make with the gratitude. Does that make sense? sense? sense? >> Yeah. Yeah. Same exercise. >> Yeah. Yeah. Same exercise. >> Yeah. Yeah. Same exercise. >> And it's a it's a good it's a good test. >> And it's a it's a good it's a good test. >> And it's a it's a good it's a good test. You know, I'm having one of those. Yeah, You know, I'm having one of those. Yeah, You know, I'm having one of those. Yeah, we got a few stresses here and there and we got a few stresses here and there and we got a few stresses here and there and production challenges and production challenges and production challenges and >> but it's like how did this I get to sit >> but it's like how did this I get to sit >> but it's like how did this I get to sit down with John Chris. How did this down with John Chris. How did this down with John Chris. How did this become my life?

become my life? become my life? >> I'm at 10:00 a.m. I could come down here >> I'm at 10:00 a.m. I could come down here >> I'm at 10:00 a.m. I could come down here and and I can we and also if we didn't and and I can we and also if we didn't and and I can we and also if we didn't want to do it, I didn't have to do it. want to do it, I didn't have to do it. want to do it, I didn't have to do it. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> And you go, >> And you go, >> And you go, >> what your complaints are? What? >> what your complaints are? What? >> what your complaints are? What? >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I got to go over like my my fiance's >> And I got to go over like my my fiance's >> And I got to go over like my my fiance's cat is like going she's going out of cat is like going she's going out of cat is like going she's going out of town for the weekend. She's like, "Can town for the weekend. She's like, "Can town for the weekend. She's like, "Can you go get my cat at my house and bring you go get my cat at my house and bring you go get my cat at my house and bring it over to your house so they can be it over to your house so they can be it over to your house so they can be there for the weekend?" I go, "Yeah, there for the weekend?" I go, "Yeah, there for the weekend?" I go, "Yeah, dude." dude." dude." Yeah. Yes. Versus Yeah. Yes. Versus Yeah. Yes. Versus the same day. Oh, I got to go down to do the same day. Oh, I got to go down to do the same day. Oh, I got to go down to do caris by then I got to go over to get caris by then I got to go over to get caris by then I got to go over to get the cat and then I got to and if you the cat and then I got to and if you the cat and then I got to and if you it's the same it's the same it's the same if like in promises in promises and if like in promises in promises and if like in promises in promises and rehab they're like dude is it is your rehab they're like dude is it is your rehab they're like dude is it is your life going to get better? They're like life going to get better? They're like life going to get better? They're like maybe maybe not maybe we can't promise maybe maybe not maybe we can't promise maybe maybe not maybe we can't promise you that you that you that >> you're going to have a career again or >> you're going to have a career again or >> you're going to have a career again or that you're going to be that you're that you're going to be that you're that you're going to be that you're going to be sober which I am by the way going to be sober which I am by the way going to be sober which I am by the way but they can't we can't promise you all but they can't we can't promise you all but they can't we can't promise you all these things. maybe but also what like these things. maybe but also what like these things. maybe but also what like it's I feel like it's very easy it's I feel like it's very easy it's I feel like it's very easy to to to forgive or maybe the story of my past is forgive or maybe the story of my past is forgive or maybe the story of my past is look what if I didn't overcome it.

look what if I didn't overcome it. look what if I didn't overcome it. What if I'm what if like uh I never got What if I'm what if like uh I never got What if I'm what if like uh I never got a chance to do standup again? a chance to do standup again? a chance to do standup again? Or like a let's put it in an athletes Or like a let's put it in an athletes Or like a let's put it in an athletes terms where they're they're a fivestar terms where they're they're a fivestar terms where they're they're a fivestar recruit in high school and a kid comes recruit in high school and a kid comes recruit in high school and a kid comes around the edge and takes out his ACL around the edge and takes out his ACL around the edge and takes out his ACL and he never gets to play again. You know what I'm saying? We we didn't You know what I'm saying? We we didn't really now fortunately I was able to really now fortunately I was able to really now fortunately I was able to with the help of God and my family and with the help of God and my family and with the help of God and my family and and to kind of write the ship I guess and to kind of write the ship I guess and to kind of write the ship I guess and be bigger than I was before. But and be bigger than I was before. But and be bigger than I was before. But that's not the case for everybody. So that's not the case for everybody. So that's not the case for everybody. So they were like we're not promising you they were like we're not promising you they were like we're not promising you we're not in here saying if you get we're not in here saying if you get we're not in here saying if you get sober or if you change your habits that sober or if you change your habits that sober or if you change your habits that you are going to but we are it is gonna you are going to but we are it is gonna you are going to but we are it is gonna you can't it's like you can't it's like you can't it's like >> but you see it as a gift not an >> but you see it as a gift not an >> but you see it as a gift not an entitlement. No, dude. And I and I'll be entitlement. No, dude. And I and I'll be entitlement. No, dude. And I and I'll be trying to talk to everybody. Every trying to talk to everybody. Every trying to talk to everybody. Every person I can say hi to everybody and I person I can say hi to everybody and I person I can say hi to everybody and I don't go out. I probably I go out in don't go out. I probably I go out in don't go out. I probably I go out in public less than I would normally, but public less than I would normally, but public less than I would normally, but anybody comes to the airport. My whole anybody comes to the airport. My whole anybody comes to the airport. My whole crew is like crew is like crew is like >> he's talking again to I go, "Did I wish >> he's talking again to I go, "Did I wish >> he's talking again to I go, "Did I wish I could I say this in sincerity. I said I could I say this in sincerity. I said I could I say this in sincerity. I said this on my show. I wish I could come to this on my show. I wish I could come to this on my show. I wish I could come to everybody's Thanksgiving."

everybody's Thanksgiving." everybody's Thanksgiving." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In here. Yeah. >> In here. Yeah. >> In here. Yeah. >> I wish I could come to everybody's >> I wish I could come to everybody's >> I wish I could come to everybody's family and be like, "Oh, dude. So this family and be like, "Oh, dude. So this family and be like, "Oh, dude. So this your uncle that live believes in the your uncle that live believes in the your uncle that live believes in the conspiracy theories and then your your conspiracy theories and then your your conspiracy theories and then your your nephew that's trying to be like and I nephew that's trying to be like and I nephew that's trying to be like and I want to hear about who the mom is saying want to hear about who the mom is saying want to hear about who the mom is saying passive aggressive things and I like passive aggressive things and I like passive aggressive things and I like dude this is and your people say about dude this is and your people say about dude this is and your people say about how my jokes they tell them in the group how my jokes they tell them in the group how my jokes they tell them in the group chat and they when we got married it was chat and they when we got married it was chat and they when we got married it was because of we and I was like dude because of we and I was like dude because of we and I was like dude awesome. I heard um Muhammad Ali once. I awesome. I heard um Muhammad Ali once. I awesome. I heard um Muhammad Ali once. I think Cal Fussman told this story, but think Cal Fussman told this story, but think Cal Fussman told this story, but Muhammad Ali in his older years, Fussman Muhammad Ali in his older years, Fussman Muhammad Ali in his older years, Fussman was following him around and this woman was following him around and this woman was following him around and this woman stopped. I think her name was Linda. And stopped. I think her name was Linda. And stopped. I think her name was Linda. And I was like, "Are you Muhammad Ali?" And I was like, "Are you Muhammad Ali?" And I was like, "Are you Muhammad Ali?" And he's like, "Yes, I am. Wonderful to meet he's like, "Yes, I am. Wonderful to meet he's like, "Yes, I am. Wonderful to meet you. What is your name?" you. What is your name?" you. What is your name?" >> She goes, "Can I get a picture?" And >> She goes, "Can I get a picture?" And >> She goes, "Can I get a picture?" And this was like precame phone. So, she had this was like precame phone. So, she had this was like precame phone. So, she had like a camera and he's like takes this like a camera and he's like takes this like a camera and he's like takes this picture with her picture with her picture with her >> and then says, "Can I see it? I just >> and then says, "Can I see it? I just >> and then says, "Can I see it? I just want to make sure it's right. Mhm. want to make sure it's right. Mhm. want to make sure it's right. Mhm. >> checks to make sure, scrolls through. He >> checks to make sure, scrolls through. He >> checks to make sure, scrolls through. He says, "Let's do another one." Gets says, "Let's do another one." Gets says, "Let's do another one." Gets another one. That's great. Anything else another one. That's great. Anything else another one. That's great. Anything else I can do for you? No. Great. And then I can do for you? No. Great. And then I can do for you? No. Great. And then moves on. And Fussman says to Muhammad moves on. And Fussman says to Muhammad moves on. And Fussman says to Muhammad Ali, "That's crazy. Do you do that with Ali, "That's crazy. Do you do that with Ali, "That's crazy. Do you do that with everybody?"

everybody?" everybody?" >> And he said, "You know what? For me, >> And he said, "You know what? For me, >> And he said, "You know what? For me, that's number, you know, 172,000 or that's number, you know, 172,000 or that's number, you know, 172,000 or whatever." But he said, "For her, it's whatever." But he said, "For her, it's whatever." But he said, "For her, it's one." one." one." >> I thought that is so important. You >> I thought that is so important. You >> I thought that is so important. You can't do it for everybody, but if you can't do it for everybody, but if you can't do it for everybody, but if you get stopped in the airport, get stopped in the airport, get stopped in the airport, >> one, >> one, >> one, >> just do it for one. If you can, if you >> just do it for one. If you can, if you >> just do it for one. If you can, if you can take that 30 seconds or that can take that 30 seconds or that can take that 30 seconds or that whatever, whatever, whatever, >> if you Yeah. And I and I have been I mean, there's there's certainly I mean, there's there's certainly artists, music artists. I would put a artists, music artists. I would put a artists, music artists. I would put a lot of music artists in there. I would lot of music artists in there. I would lot of music artists in there. I would put a lot of authors in there. I would put a lot of authors in there. I would put a lot of authors in there. I would lot of I put a lot of as silly as it lot of I put a lot of as silly as it lot of I put a lot of as silly as it sounds I would put a lot of professional sounds I would put a lot of professional sounds I would put a lot of professional athletes in there that you go there's a athletes in there that you go there's a athletes in there that you go there's a guy in rehab Colin McHugh is a a pitcher guy in rehab Colin McHugh is a a pitcher guy in rehab Colin McHugh is a a pitcher for the Braves play for the Houston for the Braves play for the Houston for the Braves play for the Houston Astros Astros Astros >> and there's a guy in rehab's Houston >> and there's a guy in rehab's Houston >> and there's a guy in rehab's Houston Astros and I go I'm friends with Astros and I go I'm friends with Astros and I go I'm friends with >> Colin McHugh and he goes man can you >> Colin McHugh and he goes man can you >> Colin McHugh and he goes man can you tell him that uh I mean this sounds tell him that uh I mean this sounds tell him that uh I mean this sounds silly to say can you tell him when I my silly to say can you tell him when I my silly to say can you tell him when I my wife was going through chemo Oh, and I wife was going through chemo Oh, and I wife was going through chemo Oh, and I would sit down and watch those Astros would sit down and watch those Astros would sit down and watch those Astros games and I love watching that guy games and I love watching that guy games and I love watching that guy pitch. Can you tell him that?

pitch. Can you tell him that? pitch. Can you tell him that? And that's not even we think m maybe And that's not even we think m maybe And that's not even we think m maybe with what we do we have some kind of with what we do we have some kind of with what we do we have some kind of spiritual spiritual spiritual that's just a guy throwing a baseball that's just a guy throwing a baseball that's just a guy throwing a baseball >> and how imagine how much of a bummer it >> and how imagine how much of a bummer it >> and how imagine how much of a bummer it would be if you saw Colin McHugh would be if you saw Colin McHugh would be if you saw Colin McHugh >> and told him that and you be like >> devastating and that this devastating >> devastating and that this devastating and you go man me and my wife met each and you go man me and my wife met each and you go man me and my wife met each other because we shared my videos. I other because we shared my videos. I other because we shared my videos. I just want to introduce you to her. And just want to introduce you to her. And just want to introduce you to her. And by the way, this is our baby. that how how did this s how and how sad that how how did this s how and how sad would it be that I and by the way prior would it be that I and by the way prior would it be that I and by the way prior to 2019 that was me that I was so in my to 2019 that was me that I was so in my to 2019 that was me that I was so in my own head own head own head that I couldn't that I couldn't that I couldn't extend enough gratitude for that that extend enough gratitude for that that extend enough gratitude for that that you go I need to get to um my car I got you go I need to get to um my car I got you go I need to get to um my car I got to get to the valet I got to get to the to get to the valet I got to get to the to get to the valet I got to get to the thing to go to the thing cuz I need to thing to go to the thing cuz I need to thing to go to the thing cuz I need to do the thing cuz if I don't do the do the thing cuz if I don't do the do the thing cuz if I don't do the thing, then we're late for the thing, thing, then we're late for the thing, thing, then we're late for the thing, then then then whatever.

whatever. whatever. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Whatever. >> Whatever. >> Whatever. >> I'll tell you, this is good stuff. I >> I'll tell you, this is good stuff. I >> I'll tell you, this is good stuff. I want to I want to go back to the Tonight want to I want to go back to the Tonight want to I want to go back to the Tonight Show. So, you get it. You get that email Show. So, you get it. You get that email Show. So, you get it. You get that email sitting at your kitchen counter. You sitting at your kitchen counter. You sitting at your kitchen counter. You hear from your agent. Your reaction is hear from your agent. Your reaction is hear from your agent. Your reaction is 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10. 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10. 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're >> You're >> You're >> What's the prep like? What happens when >> What's the prep like? What happens when >> What's the prep like? What happens when you go to New York? you go to New York? you go to New York? >> Well, there's another First of all, >> Well, there's another First of all, >> Well, there's another First of all, there's another there's another there's another 50 times of the set after that. But when 50 times of the set after that. But when 50 times of the set after that. But when you get it now, you got a guy that's you get it now, you got a guy that's you get it now, you got a guy that's one-on-one with you for every joke, one-on-one with you for every joke, one-on-one with you for every joke, every punch line, every everything. every punch line, every everything. every punch line, every everything. >> Really? So they're rehe and how long was >> Really? So they're rehe and how long was >> Really? So they're rehe and how long was your bit? You were given your bit? You were given your bit? You were given >> four and a half minutes. >> four and a half minutes. >> four and a half minutes. >> Four and a half minutes. So you got a >> Four and a half minutes. So you got a >> Four and a half minutes. So you got a guy walking through. guy walking through. guy walking through. >> Now he goes, "All right, now we're" And >> Now he goes, "All right, now we're" And >> Now he goes, "All right, now we're" And so now again, I'm going on like I still so now again, I'm going on like I still so now again, I'm going on like I still was going, but now I had it. Now I was was going, but now I had it. Now I was was going, but now I had it. Now I was just making sure it was going to be just making sure it was going to be just making sure it was going to be lights out. And there there's a lot of lights out. And there there's a lot of lights out. And there there's a lot of stuff that was actually stuff that was actually stuff that was actually very helpful revisions very helpful revisions very helpful revisions which every word that does not which every word that does not which every word that does not contribute to the punchline. Get it out.

contribute to the punchline. Get it out. contribute to the punchline. Get it out. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> If it doesn't add to it, if it's a >> If it doesn't add to it, if it's a >> If it doesn't add to it, if it's a detail, it be like, "All right, so we I detail, it be like, "All right, so we I detail, it be like, "All right, so we I came down to see you today and I like came down to see you today and I like came down to see you today and I like turned left on Franklin Pike instead of turned left on Franklin Pike instead of turned left on Franklin Pike instead of going down the interstate. Like, get going down the interstate. Like, get going down the interstate. Like, get that out." Unless that's necessary for that out." Unless that's necessary for that out." Unless that's necessary for the punch line. Get it out. So you the punch line. Get it out. So you the punch line. Get it out. So you tighten it all the way down and in and tighten it all the way down and in and tighten it all the way down and in and every word every and by the way he goes every word every and by the way he goes every word every and by the way he goes uh you time your walk up that when you uh you time your walk up that when you uh you time your walk up that when you wave uh introduce yourself all these all wave uh introduce yourself all these all wave uh introduce yourself all these all these type of that you just go and I've these type of that you just go and I've these type of that you just go and I've talked to a bunch of other comics that talked to a bunch of other comics that talked to a bunch of other comics that did it cuz now I have it. So like I did it cuz now I have it. So like I did it cuz now I have it. So like I said, tell me Nate Paradi, Dusty Slay, said, tell me Nate Paradi, Dusty Slay, said, tell me Nate Paradi, Dusty Slay, Aaron Weber, they're walking you through Aaron Weber, they're walking you through Aaron Weber, they're walking you through it. it. it. >> Tell me about what your experience is >> Tell me about what your experience is >> Tell me about what your experience is and then you got to go the night before and then you got to go the night before and then you got to go the night before to uh New York City and do it to uh New York City and do it to uh New York City and do it >> five times at the comedy seller, which >> five times at the comedy seller, which >> five times at the comedy seller, which is the biggest club in in I think one of is the biggest club in in I think one of is the biggest club in in I think one of the best comedy clubs in the world. They the best comedy clubs in the world. They the best comedy clubs in the world. They got to you got to go with the booker, got to you got to go with the booker, got to you got to go with the booker, meet me at the comedy seller. We're meet me at the comedy seller. We're meet me at the comedy seller. We're going to run it five times live going to run it five times live going to run it five times live together. together. together. >> Wow. So the Tonight Show, people who are >> Wow. So the Tonight Show, people who are >> Wow. So the Tonight Show, people who are on the next night are almost always on the next night are almost always on the next night are almost always there.

there. there. >> Always. Yeah. Always. >> Always. Yeah. Always. >> Always. Yeah. Always. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Always run it. Now you're running it in >> Always run it. Now you're running it in >> Always run it. Now you're running it in person. person. person. >> And let me tell you, brother, >> And let me tell you, brother, >> And let me tell you, brother, >> I don't know if there's a leadership >> I don't know if there's a leadership >> I don't know if there's a leadership lesson here. lesson here. lesson here. >> It bombed five times. >> It bombed five times. >> It bombed five times. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> I'm telling you, brother, >> I'm telling you, brother, >> I'm telling you, brother, >> bombed. And and and nobody's laughing. >> bombed. And and and nobody's laughing. >> bombed. And and and nobody's laughing. No, it No, they're laughing. But but I No, it No, they're laughing. But but I No, it No, they're laughing. But but I get off the stage and the booker goes get off the stage and the booker goes get off the stage and the booker goes perfect, perfect. He goes, "This crowd perfect, perfect. He goes, "This crowd perfect, perfect. He goes, "This crowd is um we're just looking for we're is um we're just looking for we're is um we're just looking for we're timing setups. We're like cuz everybody timing setups. We're like cuz everybody timing setups. We're like cuz everybody it's almost impossible cuz the guy goes, it's almost impossible cuz the guy goes, it's almost impossible cuz the guy goes, "You ever date a girl from Atoria, but "You ever date a girl from Atoria, but "You ever date a girl from Atoria, but you live on the three training queens?" you live on the three training queens?" you live on the three training queens?" And you're like, it's just murdering. And you're like, it's just murdering. And you're like, it's just murdering. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> This is at in Brooklyn in at night. >> This is at in Brooklyn in at night. >> This is at in Brooklyn in at night. You're like I and I'm just my first line You're like I and I'm just my first line You're like I and I'm just my first line is big news for me guys. My girlfriend is big news for me guys. My girlfriend is big news for me guys. My girlfriend just added me to her family group chat just added me to her family group chat just added me to her family group chat and I can't start and say what's up from and I can't start and say what's up from and I can't start and say what's up from out of town. I'm practicing my tonight out of town. I'm practicing my tonight out of town. I'm practicing my tonight show set. None of that. You just got to show set. None of that. You just got to show set. None of that. You just got to go up there and it's go up there and it's go up there and it's >> it's jarring. But Dusty Slay goes the >> it's jarring. But Dusty Slay goes the >> it's jarring. But Dusty Slay goes the hardest thing about the Tonight Show is hardest thing about the Tonight Show is hardest thing about the Tonight Show is bombing five times the night before. So bombing five times the night before. So bombing five times the night before. So I know I know I know >> you knew this is going to happen. You >> you knew this is going to happen. You >> you knew this is going to happen. You knew. But isn't is there a part of you knew. But isn't is there a part of you knew. But isn't is there a part of you that's going, I know how to make this that's going, I know how to make this that's going, I know how to make this better. I know how to make this better.

better. I know how to make this better. better. I know how to make this better. No, let me let me have some creative No, let me let me have some creative No, let me let me have some creative control here. control here. control here. >> He was saying, uh, we're kind of working >> He was saying, uh, we're kind of working >> He was saying, uh, we're kind of working with each other because he goes, you with each other because he goes, you with each other because he goes, you know, do this, this, this, this, this, know, do this, this, this, this, this, know, do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this. Also, just this, this, this, and this. Also, just this, this, this, and this. Also, just be yourself. You're like, all right. be yourself. You're like, all right. be yourself. You're like, all right. Well, I I'm not myself anymore. Well, I I'm not myself anymore. Well, I I'm not myself anymore. Revisions in Revisions in Revisions in >> both of these. And he said, I remember >> both of these. And he said, I remember >> both of these. And he said, I remember he said, um, he said, um, he said, um, >> there's a joke about um, >> there's a joke about um, >> there's a joke about um, >> uh, the algorithms. They put I got a >> uh, the algorithms. They put I got a >> uh, the algorithms. They put I got a Shakira video on my algorithm is one of Shakira video on my algorithm is one of Shakira video on my algorithm is one of the jokes. And my fiance's asking, why the jokes. And my fiance's asking, why the jokes. And my fiance's asking, why are you have a Shakira video on your are you have a Shakira video on your are you have a Shakira video on your phone? And I was like, maybe um phone? And I was like, maybe um phone? And I was like, maybe um maybe it's cuz I was at a Mexican maybe it's cuz I was at a Mexican maybe it's cuz I was at a Mexican restaurant and I heard uh and the the my restaurant and I heard uh and the the my restaurant and I heard uh and the the my phone heard a Shakira song or something phone heard a Shakira song or something phone heard a Shakira song or something like that. Right. Right. like that. Right. Right. like that. Right. Right. >> And then the next joke is um you know >> And then the next joke is um you know >> And then the next joke is um you know what I'm ordered some Colombian coffee what I'm ordered some Colombian coffee what I'm ordered some Colombian coffee the other day. She's Colombian. Maybe the other day. She's Colombian. Maybe the other day. She's Colombian. Maybe the algorithm put that together. It's the algorithm put that together. It's the algorithm put that together. It's silly. So one of the last revision I did silly. So one of the last revision I did silly. So one of the last revision I did is I took that Colombian joke because it is I took that Colombian joke because it is I took that Colombian joke because it was bombing. was bombing. was bombing. bombing. bombing. bombing. >> And he runs up to me after uh one of the >> And he runs up to me after uh one of the >> And he runs up to me after uh one of the at the and he goes, "You got to put that at the and he goes, "You got to put that at the and he goes, "You got to put that what happened to the Shakira Colombian what happened to the Shakira Colombian what happened to the Shakira Colombian joke?" I go, "I took it out. I feel like joke?" I go, "I took it out. I feel like joke?" I go, "I took it out. I feel like it was just bombing." And he goes, "You it was just bombing." And he goes, "You it was just bombing." And he goes, "You have to keep that in." I go, "Why?" He have to keep that in." I go, "Why?" He have to keep that in." I go, "Why?" He goes, "Well, first of all, Shakira is a goes, "Well, first of all, Shakira is a goes, "Well, first of all, Shakira is a friend of the Tonight Show." And she friend of the Tonight Show." And she friend of the Tonight Show." And she goes, he goes, goes, he goes, goes, he goes, >> "We know Shakira."

>> "We know Shakira." >> "We know Shakira." >> He goes, "We know Shakira. We know >> He goes, "We know Shakira. We know >> He goes, "We know Shakira. We know Shakira." Also he said Shakira." Also he said Shakira." Also he said >> if you saying Shakira is Mexican you at >> if you saying Shakira is Mexican you at >> if you saying Shakira is Mexican you at a Mexican restaurant. This joke comes a Mexican restaurant. This joke comes a Mexican restaurant. This joke comes off very racist if you don't know she's off very racist if you don't know she's off very racist if you don't know she's Colombian. So I go I was at a Mexican Colombian. So I go I was at a Mexican Colombian. So I go I was at a Mexican restaurant. That's like grouping all restaurant. That's like grouping all restaurant. That's like grouping all Latinos together. I was at a Mexican Latinos together. I was at a Mexican Latinos together. I was at a Mexican restaurant and they heard her song. That restaurant and they heard her song. That restaurant and they heard her song. That comes off as racist without my knowledge comes off as racist without my knowledge comes off as racist without my knowledge of her being Colombian cuz I cuz I of her being Colombian cuz I cuz I of her being Colombian cuz I cuz I thought this is what you go back and thought this is what you go back and thought this is what you go back and forth with a thousand times. Why don't forth with a thousand times. Why don't forth with a thousand times. Why don't you say I know she's not Mexican. Why you say I know she's not Mexican. Why you say I know she's not Mexican. Why don't you say I was at a Latino don't you say I was at a Latino don't you say I was at a Latino restaurant? No one says that. restaurant? No one says that. restaurant? No one says that. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> they say me >> they say me >> they say me >> Mex and there's no Colombian restaurant. >> Mex and there's no Colombian restaurant. >> Mex and there's no Colombian restaurant. I mean I mean I mean >> or I was at a Colombian restaurant and >> or I was at a Colombian restaurant and >> or I was at a Colombian restaurant and the crowd would be subconsciously like the crowd would be subconsciously like the crowd would be subconsciously like what what what >> exactly does that have to do thrown them >> exactly does that have to do thrown them >> exactly does that have to do thrown them off the off the off the >> Yeah. So it's these type of things that >> Yeah. So it's these type of things that >> Yeah. So it's these type of things that you have to you have to go over a you have to you have to go over a you have to you have to go over a thousand times. You go Yeah. the the the thousand times. You go Yeah. the the the thousand times. You go Yeah. the the the Colombian coffee joke doesn't hit as Colombian coffee joke doesn't hit as Colombian coffee joke doesn't hit as hard but without that joke you seem and hard but without that joke you seem and hard but without that joke you seem and this is a this is a this is a >> you've just you know off this kind of >> you've just you know off this kind of >> you've just you know off this kind of becomes offensive or like Americans becomes offensive or like Americans becomes offensive or like Americans think everybody south of us is all think everybody south of us is all think everybody south of us is all together together together >> and I go this a great note >> and I go this a great note >> and I go this a great note >> oh >> oh >> oh >> and I keep it >> and I keep it >> and I keep it >> so you get out there I watched your set >> so you get out there I watched your set >> so you get out there I watched your set a couple of times a couple of times a couple of times >> it looked like you >> it looked like you >> it looked like you >> even though it had been revised >> even though it had been revised >> even though it had been revised >> 57,000 >> 57,000 >> 57,000 times Yeah.

times Yeah. times Yeah. >> How do you stay cuz I mean, you know, >> How do you stay cuz I mean, you know, >> How do you stay cuz I mean, you know, when you do your stand up, you can do when you do your stand up, you can do when you do your stand up, you can do whatever you want, right? Like whatever you want, right? Like whatever you want, right? Like >> you work for yourself. If you know it >> you work for yourself. If you know it >> you work for yourself. If you know it didn't work that night, it didn't work. didn't work that night, it didn't work. didn't work that night, it didn't work. You just fix it. And I'm sure you've got You just fix it. And I'm sure you've got You just fix it. And I'm sure you've got your team advising you. But now you're your team advising you. But now you're your team advising you. But now you're in this straight jacket, right? Where in this straight jacket, right? Where in this straight jacket, right? Where all you've got is I I got to turn this all you've got is I I got to turn this all you've got is I I got to turn this way. I got to wave this way. I got to way. I got to wave this way. I got to way. I got to wave this way. I got to say this. I got to pause here. I've got say this. I got to pause here. I've got say this. I got to pause here. I've got 4 minutes and 28 seconds. Not 29, not 4 minutes and 28 seconds. Not 29, not 4 minutes and 28 seconds. Not 29, not 27. blah blah blah. You got to hit all 27. blah blah blah. You got to hit all 27. blah blah blah. You got to hit all these markers and yet it seemed like a these markers and yet it seemed like a these markers and yet it seemed like a very recognizable very recognizable very recognizable John Christ. So what John Christ. So what John Christ. So what >> what is going on inside you when you're >> what is going on inside you when you're >> what is going on inside you when you're doing that? Because there's a lot of doing that? Because there's a lot of doing that? Because there's a lot of communicators watching this who are like communicators watching this who are like communicators watching this who are like if I did that I'd be like, "Hello." Like if I did that I'd be like, "Hello." Like if I did that I'd be like, "Hello." Like >> out the window, whatever y'all need. >> out the window, whatever y'all need. >> out the window, whatever y'all need. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> How did How did you do that? >> How did How did you do that? >> How did How did you do that? >> Well, I was obviously terrified right >> Well, I was obviously terrified right >> Well, I was obviously terrified right before they introduced me and before they introduced me and before they introduced me and >> Yeah. What's going on? >> Yeah. What's going on? >> Yeah. What's going on? >> Terrified. Standing back. stand >> Terrified. Standing back. stand >> Terrified. Standing back. stand >> almost like back to your first standup >> almost like back to your first standup >> almost like back to your first standup >> and Jimmy Fallon everybody asked how is >> and Jimmy Fallon everybody asked how is >> and Jimmy Fallon everybody asked how is he how is he like the guy go yeah he's he how is he like the guy go yeah he's he how is he like the guy go yeah he's that and even more and he did he did me that and even more and he did he did me that and even more and he did he did me the biggest favor when it was in the biggest favor when it was in the biggest favor when it was in commercial break he goes all right commercial break he goes all right commercial break he goes all right everybody we got a guy is making his everybody we got a guy is making his everybody we got a guy is making his debut at the night show and I want you debut at the night show and I want you debut at the night show and I want you guys he's I want you guys to be so kind guys he's I want you guys to be so kind guys he's I want you guys to be so kind to him and he goes my uh fiance my tour to him and he goes my uh fiance my tour to him and he goes my uh fiance my tour manager and my and my uh director of uh manager and my and my uh director of uh manager and my and my uh director of uh operations were there with me and he operations were there with me and he operations were there with me and he goes goes goes All three of his friends are are here.

All three of his friends are are here. All three of his friends are are here. Uh, and three of his friends are in the Uh, and three of his friends are in the Uh, and three of his friends are in the back. Make him look cool to them, which back. Make him look cool to them, which back. Make him look cool to them, which is is is such like an extension of generosity such like an extension of generosity such like an extension of generosity that he did not have to do. And I think that he did not have to do. And I think that he did not have to do. And I think he's a obviously a professional, but he he's a obviously a professional, but he he's a obviously a professional, but he and he loves comedy, by the way. and he loves comedy, by the way. and he loves comedy, by the way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Loves comedy. He goes, I'm going to do >> Loves comedy. He goes, I'm going to do >> Loves comedy. He goes, I'm going to do everything I can in this commercial everything I can in this commercial everything I can in this commercial break to get these people. break to get these people. break to get these people. >> So, you're playing with the home crowd >> So, you're playing with the home crowd >> So, you're playing with the home crowd all of a sudden. all of a sudden. all of a sudden. >> Now, everybody's like, we love this guy. >> Now, everybody's like, we love this guy. >> Now, everybody's like, we love this guy. anything we can do. And and I uh I walk anything we can do. And and I uh I walk anything we can do. And and I uh I walk out out out >> obviously terrified. My first reaction >> obviously terrified. My first reaction >> obviously terrified. My first reaction is from the crowd that I need is is from the crowd that I need is is from the crowd that I need is actually I go I just got invited to my actually I go I just got invited to my actually I go I just got invited to my girlfriend's family group chat. It's an girlfriend's family group chat. It's an girlfriend's family group chat. It's an applause. It's not a It's not a laugh. applause. It's not a It's not a laugh. applause. It's not a It's not a laugh. >> It's an applause, which is not as good, >> It's an applause, which is not as good, >> It's an applause, which is not as good, right? right? right? >> It's No, no. Applause after a laugh is >> It's No, no. Applause after a laugh is >> It's No, no. Applause after a laugh is an applause break is But this is I'm not an applause break is But this is I'm not an applause break is But this is I'm not asking for a laugh here. I'm just asking asking for a laugh here. I'm just asking asking for a laugh here. I'm just asking for a engage. So I was still nervous for a engage. So I was still nervous for a engage. So I was still nervous because it was just because it was just because it was just but then I said whatever the first punch but then I said whatever the first punch but then I said whatever the first punch line is just boom and I was like oh line is just boom and I was like oh line is just boom and I was like oh >> I know how to do this >> I know how to do this >> I know how to do this >> I've done and and >> I've done and and >> I've done and and I was so annoyed with the preparation I was so annoyed with the preparation I was so annoyed with the preparation but now I go but now I go but now I go I mean there's so many things they were I mean there's so many things they were I mean there's so many things they were like like like walk three steps look to your right say walk three steps look to your right say walk three steps look to your right say hi to Jimmy walk three steps look to hi to Jimmy walk three steps look to hi to Jimmy walk three steps look to your left acknowledge the roots walk up your left acknowledge the roots walk up your left acknowledge the roots walk up to this. There's a clover on the ground to this. There's a clover on the ground to this. There's a clover on the ground there. Stand right there. Deliver the there. Stand right there. Deliver the there. Stand right there. Deliver the punch line. Deliver the setup to the punch line. Deliver the setup to the punch line. Deliver the setup to the crowd here. Set up to the crowd here.

crowd here. Set up to the crowd here. crowd here. Set up to the crowd here. Punch line to the camera. Setup. Setup. Punch line to the camera. Setup. Setup. Punch line to the camera. Setup. Setup. Punch line. And then here's the clock. Punch line. And then here's the clock. Punch line. And then here's the clock. Here's the script. And I go, I've done Here's the script. And I go, I've done Here's the script. And I go, I've done this a thousand times. this a thousand times. this a thousand times. I've done this a thousand times. It I've done this a thousand times. It I've done this a thousand times. It could it it could could it it could could it it could not, not, not, you know, it's almost next to near you know, it's almost next to near you know, it's almost next to near impossible that this could go wrong. impossible that this could go wrong. impossible that this could go wrong. >> Have they put you on that stage? >> Have they put you on that stage? >> Have they put you on that stage? numerous numerous times to rehearse it numerous numerous times to rehearse it numerous numerous times to rehearse it with the cameras and everything like with the cameras and everything like with the cameras and everything like that. that. that. >> We did a sound check before the crowd is >> We did a sound check before the crowd is >> We did a sound check before the crowd is in there in there in there >> that you just so you know where the >> that you just so you know where the >> that you just so you know where the markers are and where to look and markers are and where to look and markers are and where to look and everything that they Yeah, there's everything that they Yeah, there's everything that they Yeah, there's almost almost almost and I and I somebody goes cuz I talk a and I and I somebody goes cuz I talk a and I and I somebody goes cuz I talk a lot to the crowd in my show like in a lot to the crowd in my show like in a lot to the crowd in my show like in a live show there's a lot of interaction live show there's a lot of interaction live show there's a lot of interaction with the crowd. Um, so I go, um, one of with the crowd. Um, so I go, um, one of with the crowd. Um, so I go, um, one of the setups of the joke is goes, "My the setups of the joke is goes, "My the setups of the joke is goes, "My girlfriend's friend, uh, got a DUI and girlfriend's friend, uh, got a DUI and girlfriend's friend, uh, got a DUI and she lost her job." And somebody in the she lost her job." And somebody in the she lost her job." And somebody in the car goes, "Ooh." And like, I like no one car goes, "Ooh." And like, I like no one car goes, "Ooh." And like, I like no one ever, this is, this is in the in the ever, this is, this is in the in the ever, this is, this is in the in the deep dive into stand up comedy, no one deep dive into stand up comedy, no one deep dive into stand up comedy, no one ever has gone into the crowd ever has gone into the crowd ever has gone into the crowd on the Tonight Show on their debut, on the Tonight Show on their debut, on the Tonight Show on their debut, >> right? And I go, "Okay, well, hold on a >> right? And I go, "Okay, well, hold on a >> right? And I go, "Okay, well, hold on a second. That's not" And I spoke to I second. That's not" And I spoke to I second. That's not" And I spoke to I acknowledged the person in the crowd.

acknowledged the person in the crowd. acknowledged the person in the crowd. And then I did another joke and I go, And then I did another joke and I go, And then I did another joke and I go, "Okay, all right. That that "Okay, all right. That that "Okay, all right. That that that lady's throwing me off a little that lady's throwing me off a little that lady's throwing me off a little bit." And I got a bigger laugh. So what bit." And I got a bigger laugh. So what bit." And I got a bigger laugh. So what you're saying, it was me. You This is you're saying, it was me. You This is you're saying, it was me. You This is what he does. And then Jimmy, when I got what he does. And then Jimmy, when I got what he does. And then Jimmy, when I got up onto the sat on the couch, he goes, up onto the sat on the couch, he goes, up onto the sat on the couch, he goes, "I can't believe you," that's what they "I can't believe you," that's what they "I can't believe you," that's what they called in comedy, went into the crowd. called in comedy, went into the crowd. called in comedy, went into the crowd. No one has ever No one has ever No one has ever gone into the crowd on a a debut of the gone into the crowd on a a debut of the gone into the crowd on a a debut of the Tonight Show, but that's what I do. Tonight Show, but that's what I do. Tonight Show, but that's what I do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I And I got into the crowd. >> And I And I got into the crowd. >> And I And I got into the crowd. >> So, he was a bit in awe of that. >> So, he was a bit in awe of that. >> So, he was a bit in awe of that. >> He got into the crowd and right back out >> He got into the crowd and right back out >> He got into the crowd and right back out cuz you got to still close at the right cuz you got to still close at the right cuz you got to still close at the right amount of time. So, you're like, if I go amount of time. So, you're like, if I go amount of time. So, you're like, if I go in here, I can't in here, I can't in here, I can't >> Yeah. You can't add to your time. >> Yeah. You can't add to your time. >> Yeah. You can't add to your time. >> No, it's got to go I got to go right >> No, it's got to go I got to go right >> No, it's got to go I got to go right back. That's throwing me off a little back. That's throwing me off a little back. That's throwing me off a little And everybody thought it was such a And everybody thought it was such a And everybody thought it was such a funny moment of like of like this is re funny moment of like of like this is re funny moment of like of like this is re this is really this is really this is really >> I couldn't have prepped that. >> I couldn't have prepped that. >> I couldn't have prepped that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So they made it even better >> So they made it even better >> So they made it even better >> and it Yeah. was on it was just >> and it Yeah. was on it was just >> and it Yeah. was on it was just unbelievable. And uh so afterwards, unbelievable. And uh so afterwards, unbelievable. And uh so afterwards, what's it feel like? what's it feel like? what's it feel like? >> Man, I told my uh >> Man, I told my uh >> Man, I told my uh the back to how he's open to this podcast back to how he's open to this podcast and me going and me going and me going like I was walking.

like I was walking. like I was walking. I go, I just need some time for my So I I go, I just need some time for my So I I go, I just need some time for my So I told my fiance, I go, I just I just need told my fiance, I go, I just I just need told my fiance, I go, I just I just need to go walk around. I just need to go to go walk around. I just need to go to go walk around. I just need to go walk around. And I was walking walk around. And I was walking walk around. And I was walking I was like walking through through New I was like walking through through New I was like walking through through New York City, by the way. Trash, smells, York City, by the way. Trash, smells, York City, by the way. Trash, smells, sounds, horns, people, bike lanes sounds, horns, people, bike lanes sounds, horns, people, bike lanes moving, yelling at you, get off the moving, yelling at you, get off the moving, yelling at you, get off the street. And I was like, I wanted to give street. And I was like, I wanted to give street. And I was like, I wanted to give everybody $100. everybody $100. everybody $100. Does that make sense? The opposite of Does that make sense? The opposite of Does that make sense? The opposite of >> It does. It's like >> It does. It's like >> It does. It's like >> I go, >> I go, >> I go, >> everybody's doing great. I want to thank >> everybody's doing great. I want to thank >> everybody's doing great. I want to thank everybody. I want just everybody. I'm so everybody. I want just everybody. I'm so everybody. I want just everybody. I'm so happy with life with like I'm I'm not happy with life with like I'm I'm not happy with life with like I'm I'm not annoy like hey you you you got to pull annoy like hey you you you got to pull annoy like hey you you you got to pull up and park in the parking lot and up and park in the parking lot and up and park in the parking lot and people can't get around you. Nah, people can't get around you. Nah, people can't get around you. Nah, >> bro. I might miss my flight. Nah, I >> bro. I might miss my flight. Nah, I >> bro. I might miss my flight. Nah, I might whatever it possibly was. whatever it possibly was. Somebody calls me Somebody calls me Somebody calls me He could It was It was like in the He could It was It was like in the He could It was It was like in the clouds, dude.

clouds, dude. clouds, dude. Has your set changed since the Tonight Has your set changed since the Tonight Has your set changed since the Tonight Show and all of those revisions and all Show and all of those revisions and all Show and all of those revisions and all of that editing? Like, did you take a of that editing? Like, did you take a of that editing? Like, did you take a lesson away from that as to how you do lesson away from that as to how you do lesson away from that as to how you do your sets now? your sets now? your sets now? >> Yeah. Well, it was a good it was a good >> Yeah. Well, it was a good it was a good >> Yeah. Well, it was a good it was a good uh it's like if you go uh you're you're uh it's like if you go uh you're you're uh it's like if you go uh you're you're uh you're preaching at your church and uh you're preaching at your church and uh you're preaching at your church and then you're like you you're going to then you're like you you're going to then you're like you you're going to >> a black church >> a black church >> a black church >> and you're like, >> and you're like, >> and you're like, >> "Wow." Okay. And then you come back >> "Wow." Okay. And then you come back >> "Wow." Okay. And then you come back different or not or any kind of church different or not or any kind of church different or not or any kind of church that's not yours. you come back to your that's not yours. you come back to your that's not yours. you come back to your you're like I'm I'm I got a different you're like I'm I'm I got a different you're like I'm I'm I got a different perspective now. I got a different perspective now. I got a different perspective now. I got a different worldview now. I got a that that you are worldview now. I got a that that you are worldview now. I got a that that you are way more confident that you're like I way more confident that you're like I way more confident that you're like I deserve to be here. I know that this deserve to be here. I know that this deserve to be here. I know that this this is good. I know that the there's this is good. I know that the there's this is good. I know that the there's been validation from the outside that been validation from the outside that been validation from the outside that the ideas that I have are I mean it was the ideas that I have are I mean it was the ideas that I have are I mean it was the the the >> it went huge on Jimmy's uh socials. >> it went huge on Jimmy's uh socials. >> it went huge on Jimmy's uh socials. >> Oh, it did. >> Oh, it did. >> Oh, it did. >> Yeah. That they were very well very well >> Yeah. That they were very well very well >> Yeah. That they were very well very well for me. Very like they were thrilled for me. Very like they were thrilled for me. Very like they were thrilled with it. We're We're looking at going with it. We're We're looking at going with it. We're We're looking at going back here pretty soon also, which is back here pretty soon also, which is back here pretty soon also, which is like like like >> awesome. Wasn't Briett. Uh Seinfeld was >> awesome. Wasn't Briett. Uh Seinfeld was >> awesome. Wasn't Briett. Uh Seinfeld was on a lot.

on a lot. on a lot. >> Hundreds of times. Yeah. >> Hundreds of times. Yeah. >> Hundreds of times. Yeah. >> Yeah. And uh Nate was on a lot >> Yeah. And uh Nate was on a lot >> Yeah. And uh Nate was on a lot >> not hundreds of times, but he's been on >> not hundreds of times, but he's been on >> not hundreds of times, but he's been on as many as many times as you want. Now as many as many times as you want. Now as many as many times as you want. Now Nate can just call Jimmy like, "I got a Nate can just call Jimmy like, "I got a Nate can just call Jimmy like, "I got a funny idea." And he goes, "You don't funny idea." And he goes, "You don't funny idea." And he goes, "You don't have to rehearse. You don't have to have to rehearse. You don't have to have to rehearse. You don't have to practice. You practice. You practice. You >> just come back. You just come back." >> just come back. You just come back." >> just come back. You just come back." >> Actually, you know what's what's for >> Actually, you know what's what's for >> Actually, you know what's what's for comics is you want to go straight to a comics is you want to go straight to a comics is you want to go straight to a panel. So you just go to the couch. panel. So you just go to the couch. panel. So you just go to the couch. >> Oh yeah. You don't have to do your set >> Oh yeah. You don't have to do your set >> Oh yeah. You don't have to do your set >> now. So Nate now would just go to the >> now. So Nate now would just go to the >> now. So Nate now would just go to the couch. couch. couch. >> Is that still a thing where um you may >> Is that still a thing where um you may >> Is that still a thing where um you may or may not get invited to the couch? or may not get invited to the couch? or may not get invited to the couch? That was a big thing in Johnny Carson. That was a big thing in Johnny Carson. That was a big thing in Johnny Carson. Less it's more now it's it's based on uh Less it's more now it's it's based on uh Less it's more now it's it's based on uh commercial breaks and time. commercial breaks and time. commercial breaks and time. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So if they they go hey he'll sometimes >> So if they they go hey he'll sometimes >> So if they they go hey he'll sometimes come right down there be like this this come right down there be like this this come right down there be like this this John Chris that's our showers is next. John Chris that's our showers is next. John Chris that's our showers is next. Sometimes invite you back. You go to Sometimes invite you back. You go to Sometimes invite you back. You go to commercial break, you talk there, and commercial break, you talk there, and commercial break, you talk there, and then you're sitting on the couch, which then you're sitting on the couch, which then you're sitting on the couch, which is what happened to me, and then he is what happened to me, and then he is what happened to me, and then he says, "That's our show." And then you says, "That's our show." And then you says, "That's our show." And then you get another little segment there. get another little segment there. get another little segment there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you're going back. >> So, you're going back. >> So, you're going back. >> Well, probably. Hopefully. Yeah. >> Well, probably. Hopefully. Yeah. >> Well, probably. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully, maybe I'll have to run it 25 Hopefully, maybe I'll have to run it 25 Hopefully, maybe I'll have to run it 25 times. Maybe not.

times. Maybe not. times. Maybe not. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> John, I'll tell you, it's I'm I'm just >> John, I'll tell you, it's I'm I'm just >> John, I'll tell you, it's I'm I'm just so excited for you. You're getting so excited for you. You're getting so excited for you. You're getting married, married, married, >> man. I'm getting married. That's cool, >> man. I'm getting married. That's cool, >> man. I'm getting married. That's cool, man. which is I would put that obviously uh I I the I would put that obviously uh I I the same same same feeling when I feeling when I feeling when I posed posed posed that I can't believe that I can't believe that I can't believe we did it and I'm not even I don't have we did it and I'm not even I don't have we did it and I'm not even I don't have any kids. We're not even married yet. any kids. We're not even married yet. any kids. We're not even married yet. But he go But he go But he go >> Yeah. So your marriage book is coming >> Yeah. So your marriage book is coming >> Yeah. So your marriage book is coming out soon. out soon. out soon. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're already >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're already >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're already writing it. Yeah. writing it. Yeah. writing it. Yeah. That's funny. Writing it right now. That's funny. Writing it right now. That's funny. Writing it right now. >> I like imagine you have you have couples >> I like imagine you have you have couples >> I like imagine you have you have couples that have been married for 30 years to that have been married for 30 years to that have been married for 30 years to somebody's Oh, tell us. Yeah. Oh. Oh, somebody's Oh, tell us. Yeah. Oh. Oh, somebody's Oh, tell us. Yeah. Oh. Oh, what's Yeah. what's Yeah. what's Yeah. >> 35. It's good >> 35. It's good >> 35. It's good >> that you go. I can't believe that. Um from where we from where I came from to from where we from where I came from to it's like um it's like um it's like um somebody told me that it be like I don't I don't I say I don't know him I don't I don't I say I don't know him but this is this maybe it's a unfair but this is this maybe it's a unfair but this is this maybe it's a unfair comparison but like Steph Curry comparison but like Steph Curry comparison but like Steph Curry the documentary is not going to be that the documentary is not going to be that the documentary is not going to be that compelling cuz he just was always compelling cuz he just was always compelling cuz he just was always successful his dad was a unbelievable successful his dad was a unbelievable successful his dad was a unbelievable shooter he was an unbelievable shooter shooter he was an unbelievable shooter shooter he was an unbelievable shooter got drafted was an unbelievable shooter got drafted was an unbelievable shooter got drafted was an unbelievable shooter like you know the documentary Michael

like you know the documentary Michael like you know the documentary Michael Jordan you go got cut Jordan you go got cut Jordan you go got cut from the team tried another way. high from the team tried another way. high from the team tried another way. high was other people were drafted ahead of was other people were drafted ahead of was other people were drafted ahead of him in the NBA. had uh first of all all him in the NBA. had uh first of all all him in the NBA. had uh first of all all the things that came to for those first the things that came to for those first the things that came to for those first three championships then dad passed away three championships then dad passed away three championships then dad passed away went to play baseball lost confus then went to play baseball lost confus then went to play baseball lost confus then comes back comes back comes back wins three more ch it's like that that wins three more ch it's like that that wins three more ch it's like that that documentary documentary documentary so powerful so powerful so powerful >> does that make sense >> does that make sense >> does that make sense >> it does well >> it does well >> it does well why everybody why everybody why everybody a lot of people get married it's it's an a lot of people get married it's it's an a lot of people get married it's it's an unbelievable like why was it So, I mean, all of my family I mean, all of my family was there to celebrate my engagement. was there to celebrate my engagement. was there to celebrate my engagement. I'm not even married yet. But like, why I'm not even married yet. But like, why I'm not even married yet. But like, why was it so was it so was it so important? John got God and G like no no important? John got God and G like no no important? John got God and G like no no no you no no you no no you no >> you guys do not understand. Does that >> you guys do not understand. Does that >> you guys do not understand. Does that make sense? make sense? make sense? >> You're like >> You're like >> You're like >> this story is anybody that's followed me >> this story is anybody that's followed me >> this story is anybody that's followed me for any amount of time you're like for any amount of time you're like for any amount of time you're like >> that you that you could I mean overcome >> that you that you could I mean overcome >> that you that you could I mean overcome it is like a I don't know if I love that it is like a I don't know if I love that it is like a I don't know if I love that word for it but like could have thrown word for it but like could have thrown word for it but like could have thrown in the towel in the towel in the towel >> on a lot of >> on a lot of >> on a lot of >> Yeah. I don't I don't want to make it be >> Yeah. I don't I don't want to make it be >> Yeah. I don't I don't want to make it be like uh uh somebody that was just trying like uh uh somebody that was just trying like uh uh somebody that was just trying to hold me accountable for things I to hold me accountable for things I to hold me accountable for things I shouldn't be doing is evil. Does that shouldn't be doing is evil. Does that shouldn't be doing is evil. Does that make sense? Or like I don't want to be make sense? Or like I don't want to be make sense? Or like I don't want to be like most all I would say overcome it

like most all I would say overcome it like most all I would say overcome it for myself. All the decisions were of my for myself. All the decisions were of my for myself. All the decisions were of my own making and my own that if I if I own making and my own that if I if I own making and my own that if I if I burn it to the ground you were really burn it to the ground you were really burn it to the ground you were really clear clear clear >> I did it myself. >> I did it myself. >> I did it myself. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But you know what to to find love. >> Yeah. But you know what to to find love. >> Yeah. But you know what to to find love. I remember when we did our first I remember when we did our first I remember when we did our first interview two years ago, interview two years ago, interview two years ago, >> you had said to me on the way out, "I'm >> you had said to me on the way out, "I'm >> you had said to me on the way out, "I'm dating someone now and I wonder if she's dating someone now and I wonder if she's dating someone now and I wonder if she's the one." the one." the one." >> I didn't say it. >> I didn't say it. >> I didn't say it. >> I didn't say that. I think you had just >> I didn't say that. I think you had just >> I didn't say that. I think you had just met L. met L. met L. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I was like kind of cheering for you >> And I was like kind of cheering for you >> And I was like kind of cheering for you and like, "Oh, that would be awesome." and like, "Oh, that would be awesome." and like, "Oh, that would be awesome." And here we are. So, And here we are. So, And here we are. So, >> Well, it is. >> Well, it is. >> Well, it is. >> And you'll get to make fun of the >> And you'll get to make fun of the >> And you'll get to make fun of the wedding industrial complex at some time. wedding industrial complex at some time. wedding industrial complex at some time. >> The wedding industrial complex is >> The wedding industrial complex is >> The wedding industrial complex is hilarious. hilarious. hilarious. >> It's like how to drain your bank >> It's like how to drain your bank >> It's like how to drain your bank account. account. account. >> I think it is. Um >> I think it is. Um >> I think it is. Um I felt I felt I felt and I don't know why I don't know why and I don't know why I don't know why and I don't know why I don't know why it's the same with at the beginning you it's the same with at the beginning you it's the same with at the beginning you get ideas in your head like nobody get ideas in your head like nobody get ideas in your head like nobody everybody was like that are not true everybody was like that are not true everybody was like that are not true that you know I thought that you know I thought that you know I thought I was going to feel like a um you know I was going to feel like a um you know I was going to feel like a um you know I'm a man and I'm a leader and this is I'm a man and I'm a leader and this is I'm a man and I'm a leader and this is where where where what I'm doing with my to to bend a knee what I'm doing with my to to bend a knee what I'm doing with my to to bend a knee and to to and to to and to to be on one knee asking a woman be on one knee asking a woman be on one knee asking a woman to marry you.

I thought I thought I would feel like I would feel like I would feel like a beta man, that I was a wuss or like a a beta man, that I was a wuss or like a a beta man, that I was a wuss or like a loser or like oh loser or like oh loser or like oh and and and I felt the exact opposite. I felt never I felt the exact opposite. I felt never I felt the exact opposite. I felt never felt more felt more felt more confident in myself, proud of myself confident in myself, proud of myself confident in myself, proud of myself almost like in a hey this is where I almost like in a hey this is where I almost like in a hey this is where I believe in myself and this our believe in myself and this our believe in myself and this our relationship and I would like to and he relationship and I would like to and he relationship and I would like to and he was like dude this I feel like everybody was like dude this I feel like everybody was like dude this I feel like everybody else was like yeah dude we we've thought else was like yeah dude we we've thought else was like yeah dude we we've thought this about you we're waiting for you to this about you we're waiting for you to this about you we're waiting for you to feel that sway about yourself like a feel that sway about yourself like a feel that sway about yourself like a leader and it's like a man that could leader and it's like a man that could leader and it's like a man that could like the proudest being on one knees like the proudest being on one knees like the proudest being on one knees maybe like in a servant uh maybe like in a servant uh maybe like in a servant uh >> uh not begging but Like it used to be on >> uh not begging but Like it used to be on >> uh not begging but Like it used to be on your knees in front of somebody's area. your knees in front of somebody's area. your knees in front of somebody's area. >> It's an act of submission. >> It's an act of submission. >> It's an act of submission. >> Yes. And I felt like I would feel like I >> Yes. And I felt like I would feel like I >> Yes. And I felt like I would feel like I don't like I don't know if I want to don't like I don't know if I want to don't like I don't know if I want to post a photo of me like on a knee. post a photo of me like on a knee. post a photo of me like on a knee. That's like embarrass. And I and I felt That's like embarrass. And I and I felt That's like embarrass. And I and I felt the opposite. And I could see now why the opposite. And I could see now why the opposite. And I could see now why everybody everybody everybody um um um is like this is the way. Does that make is like this is the way. Does that make is like this is the way. Does that make sense?

sense? sense? >> It does. when you're not when you don't >> It does. when you're not when you don't >> It does. when you're not when you don't you can't tell somebody if if the you can't tell somebody if if the you can't tell somebody if if the person's not right for them. You can't person's not right for them. You can't person's not right for them. You can't say get married, get married no matter say get married, get married no matter say get married, get married no matter what because it could end badly. But if what because it could end badly. But if what because it could end badly. But if if you if you choose that you want to do if you if you choose that you want to do if you if you choose that you want to do this, all the other people that are on this, all the other people that are on this, all the other people that are on the team, they're like, "Yeah, we're the team, they're like, "Yeah, we're the team, they're like, "Yeah, we're welcome. welcome. welcome. >> This is the best way." >> This is the best way." >> This is the best way." >> You know what? I was 24. >> You know what? I was 24. >> You know what? I was 24. >> Does that make sense? >> Does that make sense? >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. I was 24 when I proposed to my >> Yeah. I was 24 when I proposed to my >> Yeah. I was 24 when I proposed to my wife. And you know, got a 35 year wife. And you know, got a 35 year wife. And you know, got a 35 year marriage, which is at its peak, which is marriage, which is at its peak, which is marriage, which is at its peak, which is great. But lots of talking to Pat great. But lots of talking to Pat great. But lots of talking to Pat Lanchion this week. It's like if you've Lanchion this week. It's like if you've Lanchion this week. It's like if you've been married that long, there's ups and been married that long, there's ups and been married that long, there's ups and downs and all that stuff. But I don't downs and all that stuff. But I don't downs and all that stuff. But I don't think I had an appreciation for what a think I had an appreciation for what a think I had an appreciation for what a powerful powerful powerful awful in the sense of awe fu, right? awful in the sense of awe fu, right? awful in the sense of awe fu, right? Like awe Like awe Like awe >> moment that really >> moment that really >> moment that really >> good way to >> good way to >> good way to >> really was and I think I have a greater >> really was and I think I have a greater >> really was and I think I have a greater appreciation of that now appreciation of that now appreciation of that now >> um than I did at it. So >> um than I did at it. So >> um than I did at it. So so very significant.

so very significant. so very significant. >> I mean it's it's also silly >> I mean it's it's also silly >> I mean it's it's also silly >> that we got to get the you know all the >> that we got to get the you know all the >> that we got to get the you know all the stuff that we got to get but it's it is stuff that we got to get but it's it is stuff that we got to get but it's it is such a such a such a >> got a rent auditorium. >> got a rent auditorium. >> got a rent auditorium. >> Yeah. All that stuff is silly. We'd all >> Yeah. All that stuff is silly. We'd all >> Yeah. All that stuff is silly. We'd all agree with that but but it is but it it agree with that but but it is but it it agree with that but but it is but it it also isn't. It's also the also isn't. It's also the also isn't. It's also the >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> And you can't uh I see now why >> And you can't uh I see now why >> And you can't uh I see now why um it it is an unbelievable it it is an unbelievable challenge obviously that it will be but challenge obviously that it will be but challenge obviously that it will be but everybody's like yeah this is this is everybody's like yeah this is this is everybody's like yeah this is this is the way but you can't say that before the way but you can't say that before the way but you can't say that before and I'm sure once you have a child and I'm sure once you have a child and I'm sure once you have a child everybody with kids is like yeah now you everybody with kids is like yeah now you everybody with kids is like yeah now you get it. get it. get it. >> Yep. Welcome to the club. >> Yep. Welcome to the club. >> Yep. Welcome to the club. >> Does that make sense? >> Does that make sense? >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. And I would say you you don't >> Yeah. And I would say you you don't >> Yeah. And I would say you you don't understand parenting until you become a understand parenting until you become a understand parenting until you become a parent. parent. parent. >> It's gonna push you to the limit. It's >> It's gonna push you to the limit. It's >> It's gonna push you to the limit. It's going to be amazing. going to be amazing. going to be amazing. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Uh and it's going to be the greatest >> Uh and it's going to be the greatest >> Uh and it's going to be the greatest reward. And everybody on this like um reward. And everybody on this like um reward. And everybody on this like um journey journey journey uh is like well uh is like well uh is like well there's comedians that there's comedians that there's comedians that in their 20s were talking to like in their 20s were talking to like in their 20s were talking to like college kids about like you know I would college kids about like you know I would college kids about like you know I would say immature topics and and then now now say immature topics and and then now now say immature topics and and then now now those comics uh those comics uh those comics uh never kind of grew in life. They're never kind of grew in life. They're never kind of grew in life. They're still single, but now they're And he still single, but now they're And he still single, but now they're And he goes, "Why aren't these jokes working

goes, "Why aren't these jokes working goes, "Why aren't these jokes working anymore?" It was like, "Well, the people anymore?" It was like, "Well, the people anymore?" It was like, "Well, the people you're talking to, they got mortgages you're talking to, they got mortgages you're talking to, they got mortgages now." Does that make sense? now." Does that make sense? now." Does that make sense? >> You've matured. You've matured your >> You've matured. You've matured your >> You've matured. You've matured your >> Yeah. It started, like you said, it >> Yeah. It started, like you said, it >> Yeah. It started, like you said, it started youth groups, maybe funny started youth groups, maybe funny started youth groups, maybe funny foibless of the church or whatever. And foibless of the church or whatever. And foibless of the church or whatever. And then it's like, oh, well, this guy, then it's like, oh, well, this guy, then it's like, oh, well, this guy, >> I mean, once you write a a significant >> I mean, once you write a a significant >> I mean, once you write a a significant check to the government, you're like, check to the government, you're like, check to the government, you're like, why? I'm involved in this now. I'm why? I'm involved in this now. I'm why? I'm involved in this now. I'm involved in the in I'm involved in the involved in the in I'm involved in the involved in the in I'm involved in the country. country. country. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I got >> And I got >> And I got >> unions that we have to pay and then we >> unions that we have to pay and then we >> unions that we have to pay and then we like all these things are like well I'm like all these things are like well I'm like all these things are like well I'm I'm this is what I deal with now. I I'm this is what I deal with now. I I'm this is what I deal with now. I didn't deal with this before. didn't deal with this before. didn't deal with this before. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's the same with same with a >> And it's the same with same with a >> And it's the same with same with a pastor by the way. You're like yeah pastor by the way. You're like yeah pastor by the way. You're like yeah >> well now >> well now >> well now >> I mean I make jokes about like dude we >> I mean I make jokes about like dude we >> I mean I make jokes about like dude we got to hit these kids and like I'm sure got to hit these kids and like I'm sure got to hit these kids and like I'm sure in three years if I have they would be in three years if I have they would be in three years if I have they would be like like like >> you're I'm not regret it but you're like >> you're I'm not regret it but you're like >> you're I'm not regret it but you're like >> you might might change the joke a little >> you might might change the joke a little >> you might might change the joke a little bit. bit. bit. >> Yeah. Or you might uh you would have a >> Yeah. Or you might uh you would have a >> Yeah. Or you might uh you would have a different perspective on it. Yeah. different perspective on it. Yeah. different perspective on it. Yeah. >> Yeah. And then you like Nate, I think >> Yeah. And then you like Nate, I think >> Yeah. And then you like Nate, I think Nate Borgetti is a is a guy that's gone Nate Borgetti is a is a guy that's gone Nate Borgetti is a is a guy that's gone ahead of us in a lot of ways. ahead of us in a lot of ways. ahead of us in a lot of ways. >> Paved a lot of a lot of ground for us, >> Paved a lot of a lot of ground for us, >> Paved a lot of a lot of ground for us, especially I would say as clean comics especially I would say as clean comics especially I would say as clean comics or maybe familyfriendly comics that you or maybe familyfriendly comics that you or maybe familyfriendly comics that you go, well, he lived in New York and he go, well, he lived in New York and he go, well, he lived in New York and he was dating when he started. Then he was dating when he started. Then he was dating when he started. Then he moved to Nashville. Then he got married.

moved to Nashville. Then he got married. moved to Nashville. Then he got married. Then he had a kid. Now his parents are Then he had a kid. Now his parents are Then he had a kid. Now his parents are aging. You're like, "Yeah, we all the aging. You're like, "Yeah, we all the aging. You're like, "Yeah, we all the fans fans fans kept with them because all all your all kept with them because all all your all kept with them because all all your all your fans are changing." your fans are changing." your fans are changing." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So you can't You're like, "Well, this is >> So you can't You're like, "Well, this is >> So you can't You're like, "Well, this is what I started preaching about. This is what I started preaching about. This is what I started preaching about. This is what they like." Or like, "Well, you're what they like." Or like, "Well, you're what they like." Or like, "Well, you're they're changing, they're changing, they're changing, so you should also be like our podcast so you should also be like our podcast so you should also be like our podcast two years ago. I bet I'd go back and two years ago. I bet I'd go back and two years ago. I bet I'd go back and listen to it." We're like, "I don't listen to it." We're like, "I don't listen to it." We're like, "I don't not that I disagree with it or not that not that I disagree with it or not that not that I disagree with it or not that it's it's it's >> Yeah, but that's where you timestamped. >> Yeah, but that's where you timestamped. >> Yeah, but that's where you timestamped. It's that contradictory to what I am It's that contradictory to what I am It's that contradictory to what I am now. I would be go, "Yeah, I would I now. I would be go, "Yeah, I would I now. I would be go, "Yeah, I would I would probably would probably would probably >> rephrase that. >> rephrase that. >> rephrase that. >> I would probably emphasize that less and >> I would probably emphasize that less and >> I would probably emphasize that less and I would probably like to talk about this I would probably like to talk about this I would probably like to talk about this more." And by the way, in in two years more." And by the way, in in two years more." And by the way, in in two years hopefully we do it again. hopefully we do it again. hopefully we do it again. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> it'd be the same. Like I've been on the >> it'd be the same. Like I've been on the >> it'd be the same. Like I've been on the Tonight Show 20 times and it's uh Tonight Show 20 times and it's uh Tonight Show 20 times and it's uh >> that would be awesome. >> that would be awesome. >> that would be awesome. >> And it was so moving at now to to >> And it was so moving at now to to >> And it was so moving at now to to talk about the journey and get married talk about the journey and get married talk about the journey and get married and I'm sure we'll have different things and I'm sure we'll have different things and I'm sure we'll have different things to talk about. to talk about. to talk about. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> John, can't thank you enough. I didn't >> John, can't thank you enough. I didn't >> John, can't thank you enough. I didn't get to any of my questions. So, uh, just get to any of my questions. So, uh, just get to any of my questions. So, uh, just thanks for this and I'm loving your thanks for this and I'm loving your thanks for this and I'm loving your podcast these days. You're having a lot podcast these days. You're having a lot podcast these days. You're having a lot of fun with it. Are you enjoying it? I of fun with it. Are you enjoying it? I of fun with it. Are you enjoying it? I don't know how you get it all done.

don't know how you get it all done. don't know how you get it all done. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> You're on the like Are you back in >> You're on the like Are you back in >> You're on the like Are you back in Nashville every few days or so? Nashville every few days or so? Nashville every few days or so? >> Uh, Monday. We usually do it in >> Uh, Monday. We usually do it in >> Uh, Monday. We usually do it in Nashville. Yeah. See it it is uh I would Nashville. Yeah. See it it is uh I would Nashville. Yeah. See it it is uh I would say to you I would say um that was the say to you I would say um that was the say to you I would say um that was the first first first um um um coming after my cancellation or what coming after my cancellation or what coming after my cancellation or what that was the first of anything um that was the first of anything um that was the first of anything um Christian that I did. I didn't do Christian that I did. I didn't do Christian that I did. I didn't do anybody's I go I'm I think I go I'm gonna do Listen, I think I go I'm gonna do Listen, if you're with me, you're with me. If if you're with me, you're with me. If if you're with me, you're with me. If you're not, you're not. I'm going this you're not, you're not. I'm going this you're not, you're not. I'm going this way. And I And I way. And I And I way. And I And I feel like it's very hurt by the I don't know because I like a lot of I don't know because I like a lot of comics like, "Oh, I got to go do a comics like, "Oh, I got to go do a comics like, "Oh, I got to go do a church. I got uh I church. I got uh I church. I got uh I love the people of the church. My dad love the people of the church. My dad love the people of the church. My dad was a pastor. I grew up I spent all I was a pastor. I grew up I spent all I was a pastor. I grew up I spent all I would stay at church all day almost like would stay at church all day almost like would stay at church all day almost like I compare myself to Jesus, but he would I compare myself to Jesus, but he would I compare myself to Jesus, but he would just stay at the temple. He just liked just stay at the temple. He just liked just stay at the temple. He just liked to I was all Sunday afternoon. We had to I was all Sunday afternoon. We had to I was all Sunday afternoon. We had church Sunday morning and church Sunday church Sunday morning and church Sunday church Sunday morning and church Sunday night. Me and my brothers always ask if night. Me and my brothers always ask if night. Me and my brothers always ask if we could stay there. We just stay at we could stay there. We just stay at we could stay there. We just stay at church all day. And I and I love to church all day. And I and I love to church all day. And I and I love to every time I get with a pastor, anyone every time I get with a pastor, anyone every time I get with a pastor, anyone of I love to talk about of I love to talk about of I love to talk about church. I like to go to church, see what church. I like to go to church, see what church. I like to go to church, see what they're doing there, how do they why are they're doing there, how do they why are they're doing there, how do they why are they doing this? How are they doing they doing this? How are they doing they doing this? How are they doing this? How are the good churches doing

this? How are the good churches doing this? How are the good churches doing it? How are the bad churches? Why are it? How are the bad churches? Why are it? How are the bad churches? Why are they fail? I love I love to talk about they fail? I love I love to talk about they fail? I love I love to talk about it. And I go, it. And I go, it. And I go, man, I I I went to this probably this man, I I I went to this probably this man, I I I went to this probably this definitely happened between then and definitely happened between then and definitely happened between then and now. Winter Jam is like the biggest uh now. Winter Jam is like the biggest uh now. Winter Jam is like the biggest uh Christian tour. Okay. Christian tour. Okay. Christian tour. Okay. >> It's like a Christian music tour. >> It's like a Christian music tour. >> It's like a Christian music tour. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I did it in 2018. >> I did it in 2018. >> I did it in 2018. It was like a It was in uh NBA arenas It was like a It was in uh NBA arenas It was like a It was in uh NBA arenas all over the country. all over the country. all over the country. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> It was hu awesome. And I was like kind >> It was hu awesome. And I was like kind >> It was hu awesome. And I was like kind of the the the the next generation of of Christianity or next generation of of Christianity or whatever and every it was huge. That's whatever and every it was huge. That's whatever and every it was huge. That's what put me on the map what put me on the map what put me on the map >> seven years ago. >> seven years ago. >> seven years ago. >> That put me on the map. And and I go >> That put me on the map. And and I go >> That put me on the map. And and I go and I've never just I go I don't I think and I've never just I go I don't I think and I've never just I go I don't I think all those people hate me. I I think they all those people hate me. I I think they all those people hate me. I I think they all are embarrassed of me. Maybe I all are embarrassed of me. Maybe I all are embarrassed of me. Maybe I embarrass the faith. Maybe uh they all embarrass the faith. Maybe uh they all embarrass the faith. Maybe uh they all think I'm uh I don't know what they think I'm uh I don't know what they think I'm uh I don't know what they think of me. And last year we had a show think of me. And last year we had a show think of me. And last year we had a show in Indianapolis. Winter Jam was also in in Indianapolis. Winter Jam was also in in Indianapolis. Winter Jam was also in Indianapolis.

Indianapolis. Indianapolis. And the uh director would go say, "You And the uh director would go say, "You And the uh director would go say, "You want to come over and say hi to want to come over and say hi to want to come over and say hi to everybody?" I go, "Yeah, I don't know if everybody?" I go, "Yeah, I don't know if everybody?" I go, "Yeah, I don't know if they know who I am or if they" and and they know who I am or if they" and and they know who I am or if they" and and they go, "Skillet is the uh they go, "Skillet is the uh they go, "Skillet is the uh >> Skillet." Oh god. Skillet was is and >> Skillet." Oh god. Skillet was is and >> Skillet." Oh god. Skillet was is and they were friends of mine. they were friends of mine. they were friends of mine. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> And John Cooper from Skillet, he goes, >> And John Cooper from Skillet, he goes, >> And John Cooper from Skillet, he goes, "Do you want to introduce us?" "Do you want to introduce us?" "Do you want to introduce us?" >> You know, this is where the the Pacers >> You know, this is where the the Pacers >> You know, this is where the the Pacers play this 18,000 people. play this 18,000 people. play this 18,000 people. >> Do you introduce us? I go, >> Do you introduce us? I go, >> Do you introduce us? I go, >> "Would they I don't know. Do you think >> "Would they I don't know. Do you think >> "Would they I don't know. Do you think that's a good idea? Would they How do that's a good idea? Would they How do that's a good idea? Would they How do they they they >> They might boo me or or they do they >> They might boo me or or they do they >> They might boo me or or they do they know Do they know who I am?" know Do they know who I am?" know Do they know who I am?" >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> And he goes, "Yeah, dude. Give it a >> And he goes, "Yeah, dude. Give it a >> And he goes, "Yeah, dude. Give it a shot." and and I got think they go we shot." and and I got think they go we shot." and and I got think they go we the you know there's a um a video or the you know there's a um a video or the you know there's a um a video or something like that and then somebody's something like that and then somebody's something like that and then somebody's like we got a we got a a guest here he's like we got a we got a a guest here he's like we got a we got a a guest here he's got to come introduce got to come introduce got to come introduce uh he's got to introduce the uh he's got to introduce the uh he's got to introduce the man ladies and gentlemen John Christ and man ladies and gentlemen John Christ and man ladies and gentlemen John Christ and standing ovation standing ovation standing ovation >> oh dude I'm so excited for you >> oh dude I'm so excited for you >> oh dude I'm so excited for you >> man that is that is I think I they they probably that the I think I they they probably that the I think I they they probably that the Christians or the the faith community Christians or the the faith community Christians or the the faith community what's wild is always felt that way what's wild is always felt that way what's wild is always felt that way about me.

about me. about me. >> I remember >> I remember >> I remember >> they didn't >> they didn't >> they didn't whatever I made up in my head about like whatever I made up in my head about like whatever I made up in my head about like I'm a loser, I'm like, you know what I'm I'm a loser, I'm like, you know what I'm I'm a loser, I'm like, you know what I'm saying? And I go saying? And I go saying? And I go >> make up a lot of stuff. >> make up a lot of stuff. >> make up a lot of stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah, you do. Dude, that's been a >> Yeah. Yeah, you do. Dude, that's been a >> Yeah. Yeah, you do. Dude, that's been a theme. But, you know, when when we met theme. But, you know, when when we met theme. But, you know, when when we met on the outskirts of Peterborough, on the outskirts of Peterborough, on the outskirts of Peterborough, Ontario, shout out. Ontario, shout out. Ontario, shout out. >> Uh to the church that lent us, we were >> Uh to the church that lent us, we were >> Uh to the church that lent us, we were we we set up the stools. Camera crew was we we set up the stools. Camera crew was we we set up the stools. Camera crew was there. there. there. >> First time in a church. >> First time in a church. >> First time in a church. >> It was I remember you saying that. You >> It was I remember you saying that. You >> It was I remember you saying that. You were kind of like you walked in and you were kind of like you walked in and you were kind of like you walked in and you were like, were like, were like, >> "It's my first time in a church and >> "It's my first time in a church and >> "It's my first time in a church and first Christian podcast. I don't do first Christian podcast. I don't do first Christian podcast. I don't do Christian podcast, but I'm going to do Christian podcast, but I'm going to do Christian podcast, but I'm going to do yours." You said it to me. And I just yours." You said it to me. And I just yours." You said it to me. And I just want to thank you, you know, and I hope want to thank you, you know, and I hope want to thank you, you know, and I hope as Christians that we have the capacity as Christians that we have the capacity as Christians that we have the capacity to not forgive, I didn't need to forgive to not forgive, I didn't need to forgive to not forgive, I didn't need to forgive you for anything, but to be open-minded. you for anything, but to be open-minded. you for anything, but to be open-minded. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To, you know, our our problem I and I >> To, you know, our our problem I and I >> To, you know, our our problem I and I said this to Henry Cloud said this to Henry Cloud said this to Henry Cloud in a couple of interviews that we've in a couple of interviews that we've in a couple of interviews that we've done with Henry. He wrote a great book done with Henry. He wrote a great book done with Henry. He wrote a great book on trust and last 30% of it basically on trust and last 30% of it basically on trust and last 30% of it basically about restoration. And I don't know about restoration. And I don't know about restoration. And I don't know you've read that part. If you read it, you've read that part. If you read it, you've read that part. If you read it, you probably went through all the steps.

you probably went through all the steps. you probably went through all the steps. And I mean, there's 42 of them. It's And I mean, there's 42 of them. It's And I mean, there's 42 of them. It's worse than getting on the Tonight Show. worse than getting on the Tonight Show. worse than getting on the Tonight Show. Oh, yeah. You got to do a lot. And our Oh, yeah. You got to do a lot. And our Oh, yeah. You got to do a lot. And our problem is we we scapegoat people like, problem is we we scapegoat people like, problem is we we scapegoat people like, "Oh, you're banished to the wilderness "Oh, you're banished to the wilderness "Oh, you're banished to the wilderness until you die." until you die." until you die." >> And or uh you set up across town or >> And or uh you set up across town or >> And or uh you set up across town or across the street the next day and across the street the next day and across the street the next day and you're like, "I'm back." you're like, "I'm back." you're like, "I'm back." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You did the hard work. You did the hard >> You did the hard work. You did the hard >> You did the hard work. You did the hard work. And And you can hear it. You can work. And And you can hear it. You can work. And And you can hear it. You can hear it even in our conversation today hear it even in our conversation today hear it even in our conversation today that you're not the same John Christ that you're not the same John Christ that you're not the same John Christ that disappeared that disappeared that disappeared in in in >> and I can and uh >> and I can and uh >> and I can and uh there was a um there was a um there was a um a music a music artist a big music a music a music artist a big music a music a music artist a big music artist in Christianity that experienced artist in Christianity that experienced artist in Christianity that experienced the same thing about a this year the same thing about a this year the same thing about a this year definitely and uh definitely and uh definitely and uh I I went to lunch with them like a I I went to lunch with them like a I I went to lunch with them like a couple weeks ago couple weeks ago couple weeks ago And I and And I and And I and somebody goes, "Well, what I mean, this somebody goes, "Well, what I mean, this somebody goes, "Well, what I mean, this person's just getting crushed on person's just getting crushed on person's just getting crushed on Twitter, just getting crushed." And Twitter, just getting crushed." And Twitter, just getting crushed." And somebody goes, "Uh, somebody goes, "Uh, somebody goes, "Uh, my fiance actually goes, what if we're my fiance actually goes, what if we're my fiance actually goes, what if we're going to like a a breakfast spot here in going to like a a breakfast spot here in going to like a a breakfast spot here in town?" She, "What if somebody sees you town?" She, "What if somebody sees you town?" She, "What if somebody sees you with him?" I go, "I'll be I'll be with him?" I go, "I'll be I'll be with him?" I go, "I'll be I'll be proud." I go, "Put it up. Take a photo proud." I go, "Put it up. Take a photo proud." I go, "Put it up. Take a photo and put it up." It's like, oh, what's and put it up." It's like, oh, what's and put it up." It's like, oh, what's what's his like, what's his like, what's his like, yeah, I understand somebody made some yeah, I understand somebody made some yeah, I understand somebody made some poor choices and and they should poor choices and and they should poor choices and and they should definitely be held accountable for that, definitely be held accountable for that, definitely be held accountable for that, but what's your plan for him?

What's he supposed to do? There has to, What's he supposed to do? There has to, to your point, restoration. There has to to your point, restoration. There has to to your point, restoration. There has to be Sarah Silverman said this, not even a be Sarah Silverman said this, not even a be Sarah Silverman said this, not even a a Christian. She's an atheist. I don't a Christian. She's an atheist. I don't a Christian. She's an atheist. I don't know if she's an atheist, but she's know if she's an atheist, but she's know if she's an atheist, but she's definitely not in favor of Christ, but definitely not in favor of Christ, but definitely not in favor of Christ, but she goes in cancellation. she goes in cancellation. she goes in cancellation. We have to have a road, a path forward. We have to have a road, a path forward. We have to have a road, a path forward. I'm not saying back to your career. I'm I'm not saying back to your career. I'm I'm not saying back to your career. I'm not saying but you have to have a path not saying but you have to have a path not saying but you have to have a path forward for that person. You you should forward for that person. You you should forward for that person. You you should go to prison. There is a path forward go to prison. There is a path forward go to prison. There is a path forward for you. for you. for you. >> Yeah. Your life is not over. >> Yeah. Your life is not over. >> Yeah. Your life is not over. >> Yeah. Now, that means that hey, you if >> Yeah. Now, that means that hey, you if >> Yeah. Now, that means that hey, you if you you don't have to be in solitary you you don't have to be in solitary you you don't have to be in solitary confinement. If you better behavior, you confinement. If you better behavior, you confinement. If you better behavior, you can now go into the yard. You can maybe can now go into the yard. You can maybe can now go into the yard. You can maybe get visitation there. Maybe you won't be get visitation there. Maybe you won't be get visitation there. Maybe you won't be let back out let back out let back out >> into public, >> into public, >> into public, >> but there is a path forward for you. You >> but there is a path forward for you. You >> but there is a path forward for you. You have to be but you have to be have to be but you have to be have to be but you have to be responsible for for your choices. responsible for for your choices. responsible for for your choices. But there's a path forward. There's But there's a path forward. There's But there's a path forward. There's parole. there's uh good beh if you parole. there's uh good beh if you parole. there's uh good beh if you there's a you could go see a judge again there's a you could go see a judge again there's a you could go see a judge again but cancellation is so tricky cuz you're but cancellation is so tricky cuz you're but cancellation is so tricky cuz you're like done like done like done you're like well then it well then what you're like well then it well then what you're like well then it well then what no what about him what about or her no what about him what about or her no what about him what about or her she's been quote canceled or what about she's been quote canceled or what about she's been quote canceled or what about there's pastors that happened it there's pastors that happened it there's pastors that happened it happened since we met a thousand times happened since we met a thousand times happened since we met a thousand times brother brother brother >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> sadly >> and by the way comics too it's everybody >> and by the way comics too it's everybody >> and by the way comics too it's everybody it's not just pastors but it's yeah that it's not just pastors but it's yeah that it's not just pastors but it's yeah that You go, "Oh, he lost his job. He got a You go, "Oh, he lost his job. He got a You go, "Oh, he lost his job. He got a DUI. Lost his job. I'll have lunch with DUI. Lost his job. I'll have lunch with DUI. Lost his job. I'll have lunch with him. I'll help him cuz I can help. I can

him. I'll help him cuz I can help. I can him. I'll help him cuz I can help. I can help. I can help him." And by the way, help. I can help him." And by the way, help. I can help him." And by the way, I' I've everybody got a DUI. Uh cheated. I' I've everybody got a DUI. Uh cheated. I' I've everybody got a DUI. Uh cheated. Uh I can help him. I'll meet him. Uh I can help him. I'll meet him. Uh I can help him. I'll meet him. Everybody calls me. Hey, comics all the Everybody calls me. Hey, comics all the Everybody calls me. Hey, comics all the time. They go I go to still go to AA time. They go I go to still go to AA time. They go I go to still go to AA meeting right here in town on there's a meeting right here in town on there's a meeting right here in town on there's a bunch of them. We go to comics. Hey, bunch of them. We go to comics. Hey, bunch of them. We go to comics. Hey, it's hard to go to AA meeting by it's hard to go to AA meeting by it's hard to go to AA meeting by yourself. Never been to one. So yourself. Never been to one. So yourself. Never been to one. So intimidating. You got I'll go you come intimidating. You got I'll go you come intimidating. You got I'll go you come with me. I know exactly to pick up your with me. I know exactly to pick up your with me. I know exactly to pick up your phone and go, "Hey, dude. Um I heard phone and go, "Hey, dude. Um I heard phone and go, "Hey, dude. Um I heard that uh I know that you're kind of sober that uh I know that you're kind of sober that uh I know that you're kind of sober and and and to pick up that phone." Yeah, I know the to pick up that phone." Yeah, I know the to pick up that phone." Yeah, I know the path to that prior to that. And it's path to that prior to that. And it's path to that prior to that. And it's very dark very dark very dark cuz your phone blew up with people who cuz your phone blew up with people who cuz your phone blew up with people who had been had been had been >> in that space. >> in that space. >> in that space. >> Yeah. Oh, that had that that understood >> Yeah. Oh, that had that that understood >> Yeah. Oh, that had that that understood >> like like in 2019. >> like like in 2019. >> like like in 2019. >> Yeah, it's easy to get on the internet >> Yeah, it's easy to get on the internet >> Yeah, it's easy to get on the internet and and trash crash trash everybody. But and and trash crash trash everybody. But and and trash crash trash everybody. But that I that I remember all I wanted to I that I that I remember all I wanted to I that I that I remember all I wanted to I was kind of angry at religion at least was kind of angry at religion at least was kind of angry at religion at least or I didn't really want to hear at the or I didn't really want to hear at the or I didn't really want to hear at the time like of the Bible verses to be time like of the Bible verses to be time like of the Bible verses to be honest.

honest. honest. >> Well, and and >> Well, and and >> Well, and and >> I didn't need the Bible verses, but I >> I didn't need the Bible verses, but I >> I didn't need the Bible verses, but I needed someone to be like, "Hey, dude." needed someone to be like, "Hey, dude." needed someone to be like, "Hey, dude." Well, and I want to thank you for not Well, and I want to thank you for not Well, and I want to thank you for not giving up on the church because it would giving up on the church because it would giving up on the church because it would have been easy just to turn your back. have been easy just to turn your back. have been easy just to turn your back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But for you to say, I'll do a Christian >> But for you to say, I'll do a Christian >> But for you to say, I'll do a Christian podcast and come back on and oh, we're podcast and come back on and oh, we're podcast and come back on and oh, we're meeting at a church. Okay. And yeah, meeting at a church. Okay. And yeah, meeting at a church. Okay. And yeah, maybe you're not doing the church tour maybe you're not doing the church tour maybe you're not doing the church tour anymore, but anymore, but anymore, but >> I haven't I haven't gone back yet. >> I haven't I haven't gone back yet. >> I haven't I haven't gone back yet. >> Well, I mean, I go to church. >> Well, I mean, I go to church. >> Well, I mean, I go to church. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But I haven't. Yeah. >> But I haven't. Yeah. >> But I haven't. Yeah. >> But you know what? We need we need your >> But you know what? We need we need your >> But you know what? We need we need your voice. We need people to make fun of us. voice. We need people to make fun of us. voice. We need people to make fun of us. We we need such a great truth. We we need such a great truth. We we need such a great truth. >> Yes. And I think I've I've seen a lot of >> Yes. And I think I've I've seen a lot of >> Yes. And I think I've I've seen a lot of uh there's a lot of comics that are are uh there's a lot of comics that are are uh there's a lot of comics that are are now um now um now um >> I'll say this and we'll leave. We'll get >> I'll say this and we'll leave. We'll get >> I'll say this and we'll leave. We'll get Okay. Okay. Okay. >> This is what I feel about humor in >> This is what I feel about humor in >> This is what I feel about humor in Christianity. When I started, it was Christianity. When I started, it was Christianity. When I started, it was when I started in 2009, when I started in 2009, when I started in 2009, no one had ever gently made fun of these things. No one gently made fun of these things. No one had ever said any. So, it was so like I had ever said any. So, it was so like I had ever said any. So, it was so like I can't believe this guy is saying this.

can't believe this guy is saying this. can't believe this guy is saying this. And pastors with private jets, by the And pastors with private jets, by the And pastors with private jets, by the way, and now I brother, way, and now I brother, way, and now I brother, >> we've dug up everything. We've dug up >> we've dug up everything. We've dug up >> we've dug up everything. We've dug up everything, dude. We made fun of everything, dude. We made fun of everything, dude. We made fun of everything in almost to far as like, everything in almost to far as like, everything in almost to far as like, well, what what now? I feel like my well, what what now? I feel like my well, what what now? I feel like my voice should be like, voice should be like, voice should be like, >> yeah, this is there's this thing with >> yeah, this is there's this thing with >> yeah, this is there's this thing with the baby formula, whatever. You can look the baby formula, whatever. You can look the baby formula, whatever. You can look it up later. Yeah. When is this going to it up later. Yeah. When is this going to it up later. Yeah. When is this going to come out? come out? come out? >> Uh, uh, next. >> Uh, uh, next. >> Uh, uh, next. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. There's a lot of people that are coming There's a lot of people that are coming There's a lot of people that are coming after the church of black, but not to after the church of black, but not to after the church of black, but not to help. help. help. They're coming to They don't They don't They're coming to They don't They don't They're coming to They don't They don't They wish for its destruction and they They wish for its destruction and they They wish for its destruction and they wish for its exposure and its wish for its exposure and its wish for its exposure and its embarrassment and its and it's they they embarrassment and its and it's they they embarrassment and its and it's they they don't wish for it to be better. don't wish for it to be better. don't wish for it to be better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They wish for it to be embarrassed and >> They wish for it to be embarrassed and >> They wish for it to be embarrassed and to be ruined cuz they are hurt by it. So to be ruined cuz they are hurt by it. So to be ruined cuz they are hurt by it. So they want to just expose everything they want to just expose everything they want to just expose everything every pastor, dude. So every pastor, dude. So every pastor, dude. So 15 years ago it was like, "Let's call 15 years ago it was like, "Let's call 15 years ago it was like, "Let's call out these pastors with private jets."

out these pastors with private jets." out these pastors with private jets." And now I think of like what about the And now I think of like what about the And now I think of like what about the 75,000 pastors 75,000 pastors 75,000 pastors that are working hard and have given that are working hard and have given that are working hard and have given their lives to this their lives to this their lives to this >> humble >> humble >> humble >> ministry that are that don't have any >> ministry that are that don't have any >> ministry that are that don't have any money. money. money. >> I know there mo the 1% of pastors who >> I know there mo the 1% of pastors who >> I know there mo the 1% of pastors who make too much. make too much. make too much. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> 99% don't make quite enough >> 99% don't make quite enough >> 99% don't make quite enough >> enough of them. We got we that there's >> enough of them. We got we that there's >> enough of them. We got we that there's bad apples everywhere and sure but we bad apples everywhere and sure but we bad apples everywhere and sure but we don't we got it. And what about the don't we got it. And what about the don't we got it. And what about the maybe the maybe the controversial thing maybe the maybe the controversial thing maybe the maybe the controversial thing now is it was controversial to go after now is it was controversial to go after now is it was controversial to go after it 15 years ago. What about now I think it 15 years ago. What about now I think it 15 years ago. What about now I think is that what where is it going? Where is is that what where is it going? Where is is that what where is it going? Where is humor? It is hey if if there's a humor? It is hey if if there's a humor? It is hey if if there's a preacher that is uh preacher that is uh preacher that is uh shown that he is not leading people like shown that he is not leading people like shown that he is not leading people like what now I feel like the onus is on the what now I feel like the onus is on the what now I feel like the onus is on the people. What are y'all doing still going people. What are y'all doing still going people. What are y'all doing still going there and still giving there? Nobody there and still giving there? Nobody there and still giving there? Nobody forcing you to give, forcing you to give, forcing you to give, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I think the pastor is he's going to be I >> I think the pastor is he's going to be I >> I think the pastor is he's going to be I don't I just It's not to keep just don't I just It's not to keep just don't I just It's not to keep just >> hitting the same thing. We did it. We >> hitting the same thing. We did it. We >> hitting the same thing. We did it. We did it.

did it. did it. >> We did it. We got it. We We crushed it >> We did it. We got it. We We crushed it >> We did it. We got it. We We crushed it all. all. all. >> And And I think a lot of I' I look at >> And And I think a lot of I' I look at >> And And I think a lot of I' I look at these other comics that are like um these other comics that are like um these other comics that are like um they're they're they're they're here to they're they're they're they're here to they're they're they're they're here to tear it down. And I I I said to some my tear it down. And I I I said to some my tear it down. And I I I said to some my other comedian buddies like, "I can't other comedian buddies like, "I can't other comedian buddies like, "I can't really judge them because I I used to be really judge them because I I used to be really judge them because I I used to be like that." He goes, "They were like, like that." He goes, "They were like, like that." He goes, "They were like, "No, you weren't. You were never like "No, you weren't. You were never like "No, you weren't. You were never like that. You poked holes in things that. You poked holes in things that. You poked holes in things to see it improve." to see it improve." to see it improve." And I was never going to call a pastor And I was never going to call a pastor And I was never going to call a pastor by name, right, by name, right, by name, right, >> and say this guy. >> and say this guy. >> and say this guy. >> I don't From what I'm seeing, it's funny >> I don't From what I'm seeing, it's funny >> I don't From what I'm seeing, it's funny that a pastor has uh a Tesla garage in that a pastor has uh a Tesla garage in that a pastor has uh a Tesla garage in his church. That's a funny idea. But I his church. That's a funny idea. But I his church. That's a funny idea. But I don't know if he I don't know his walk, don't know if he I don't know his walk, don't know if he I don't know his walk, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I don't know if he's a heretic. >> I don't know if he's a heretic. >> I don't know if he's a heretic. >> I can see from here that maybe there's >> I can see from here that maybe there's >> I can see from here that maybe there's some funny things about some funny things about some funny things about a helicopter fly over for Easter a helicopter fly over for Easter a helicopter fly over for Easter dropping candy that's a little absurd to dropping candy that's a little absurd to dropping candy that's a little absurd to me. But I don't I never went after me. But I don't I never went after me. But I don't I never went after someone by name and said this person is someone by name and said this person is someone by name and said this person is >> and I my comedy I think always led to Oh >> and I my comedy I think always led to Oh >> and I my comedy I think always led to Oh yeah, that's silly. Like a Chris Rock yeah, that's silly. Like a Chris Rock yeah, that's silly. Like a Chris Rock makes a a racial joke. Racist and racial makes a a racial joke. Racist and racial makes a a racial joke. Racist and racial is different. East it makes a different is different. East it makes a different is different. East it makes a different black people and white people are like black people and white people are like black people and white people are like this.

this. this. If it's done well, you lay your head on If it's done well, you lay your head on If it's done well, you lay your head on the pillow that night and you think, the pillow that night and you think, the pillow that night and you think, "Yeah, that's silly that we treat black "Yeah, that's silly that we treat black "Yeah, that's silly that we treat black and white people different." Not and white people different." Not and white people different." Not racism. racism. racism. Does that make sense? Does that make sense? Does that make sense? >> It does make sense. You go, "Oh, that >> It does make sense. You go, "Oh, that >> It does make sense. You go, "Oh, that Oh, yeah. We shouldn't as a church or as Oh, yeah. We shouldn't as a church or as Oh, yeah. We shouldn't as a church or as a faith community. a faith community. a faith community. That's funny, but that guy's got a That's funny, but that guy's got a That's funny, but that guy's got a point. Not that you thought black people point. Not that you thought black people point. Not that you thought black people were less than. That was not the point were less than. That was not the point were less than. That was not the point of the of the of the >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If it's done well. >> If it's done well. >> If it's done well. >> Yeah. It's not. It just seems racist. >> Yeah. It's not. It just seems racist. >> Yeah. It's not. It just seems racist. >> When it's You just seem like >> When it's You just seem like >> When it's You just seem like >> all the content you see on the internet >> all the content you see on the internet >> all the content you see on the internet about the church or people that are about the church or people that are about the church or people that are against it, you go, you're just hurt. against it, you go, you're just hurt. against it, you go, you're just hurt. You've been hurt by it. You've been hurt by it. You've been hurt by it. It's fun to see the cynicism It's fun to see the cynicism It's fun to see the cynicism and the hope and the joy and the and the hope and the joy and the and the hope and the joy and the happiness coexist. That's beautiful. happiness coexist. That's beautiful. happiness coexist. That's beautiful. That's really beautiful. That's really beautiful. That's really beautiful. >> And I think we need more of that. >> And I think we need more of that. >> And I think we need more of that. >> It's some well, how do we feel about >> It's some well, how do we feel about >> It's some well, how do we feel about >> Well, it's not all throw it all out.

>> Well, it's not all throw it all out. >> Well, it's not all throw it all out. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Or it's or sometimes it's not I love >> Or it's or sometimes it's not I love >> Or it's or sometimes it's not I love everything and they can do no wrong. everything and they can do no wrong. everything and they can do no wrong. >> It's that tension. >> It's that tension. >> It's that tension. >> Yeah. Which by the way, we if you have a >> Yeah. Which by the way, we if you have a >> Yeah. Which by the way, we if you have a healthy relationship, you they should healthy relationship, you they should healthy relationship, you they should say, say, say, >> "Hey, we love the podcast. It's going >> "Hey, we love the podcast. It's going >> "Hey, we love the podcast. It's going good. But also, you spent too much time good. But also, you spent too much time good. But also, you spent too much time on on the road. on on the road. on on the road. >> Both of these things and you can be like >> Both of these things and you can be like >> Both of these things and you can be like be together be together be together >> fair. Hey, all we don't bow at the at >> fair. Hey, all we don't bow at the at >> fair. Hey, all we don't bow at the at the at the at the altar of likes and the at the at the altar of likes and the at the at the altar of likes and clicks and views, but also we we believe clicks and views, but also we we believe clicks and views, but also we we believe in what we're saying here. We believe in what we're saying here. We believe in what we're saying here. We believe it's important." So you go, "Oh, dude, it's important." So you go, "Oh, dude, it's important." So you go, "Oh, dude, it's awesome that we the we won the it's awesome that we the we won the it's awesome that we the we won the awards, but also make sure your personal awards, but also make sure your personal awards, but also make sure your personal life is in order." And make sure you life is in order." And make sure you life is in order." And make sure you know that both that you can be know that both that you can be know that both that you can be and you don't take that as a and you don't take that as a and you don't take that as a you see fairly fair. I can re I can you see fairly fair. I can re I can you see fairly fair. I can re I can receive that. receive that. receive that. >> John, it's been a fascinating >> John, it's been a fascinating >> John, it's been a fascinating conversation where uh so your podcast conversation where uh so your podcast conversation where uh so your podcast net positive. I'm a listener. So you'll net positive. I'm a listener. So you'll net positive. I'm a listener. So you'll direct anywhere you can get podcast direct anywhere you can get podcast direct anywhere you can get podcast >> and you are almost perpetually on tour.

>> and you are almost perpetually on tour. >> and you are almost perpetually on tour. >> Uh yeah, we're going tour. We're touring >> Uh yeah, we're going tour. We're touring >> Uh yeah, we're going tour. We're touring uh the rest of this year. And I mean we uh the rest of this year. And I mean we uh the rest of this year. And I mean we we take two months off in the winter and we take two months off in the winter and we take two months off in the winter and two months off in the summer, but two months off in the summer, but two months off in the summer, but >> no, we love any other place you direct >> no, we love any other place you direct >> no, we love any other place you direct people to. people to. people to. >> Oh man, let's see. The podcast. >> Oh man, let's see. The podcast. >> Oh man, let's see. The podcast. >> Should I delete that? It's a great book. >> Should I delete that? It's a great book. >> Should I delete that? It's a great book. >> You looking for that? Yeah. >> You looking for that? Yeah. >> You looking for that? Yeah. >> Yeah, I did. >> Yeah, I did. >> Yeah, I did. >> Still holds up. Yeah. >> Still holds up. Yeah. >> Still holds up. Yeah. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Be here, brother. >> Be here, brother. >> Be here, brother. >> Man, that was a great conversation. >> Man, that was a great conversation. >> Man, that was a great conversation. really authentic, vulnerable. Uh if you really authentic, vulnerable. Uh if you really authentic, vulnerable. Uh if you want to catch the original episode with want to catch the original episode with want to catch the original episode with John where he talks about his whole John where he talks about his whole John where he talks about his whole rehab journey, it's episode 604. You can rehab journey, it's episode 604. You can rehab journey, it's episode 604. You can just scroll back and find it there. It just scroll back and find it there. It just scroll back and find it there. It was a couple years ago. It's also on was a couple years ago. It's also on was a couple years ago. It's also on YouTube. One of our most watched videos YouTube. One of our most watched videos YouTube. One of our most watched videos ever. And uh I was on Net Positive. That ever. And uh I was on Net Positive. That ever. And uh I was on Net Positive. That was in December of 2025. So you can find was in December of 2025. So you can find was in December of 2025. So you can find that too. We had a really good time that too. We had a really good time that too. We had a really good time together. And uh we my wife and I and a together. And uh we my wife and I and a together. And uh we my wife and I and a couple of friends we went backstage and couple of friends we went backstage and couple of friends we went backstage and uh watched a new material Monday at uh watched a new material Monday at uh watched a new material Monday at Zanies in Nashville. Man, it was a lot Zanies in Nashville. Man, it was a lot Zanies in Nashville. Man, it was a lot of fun. I just love studying the art of of fun. I just love studying the art of of fun. I just love studying the art of comedy and really encouraged by the comedy and really encouraged by the comedy and really encouraged by the progress John's made in his life and I progress John's made in his life and I progress John's made in his life and I think he's an example of what can happen think he's an example of what can happen think he's an example of what can happen when things don't go well. You get your when things don't go well. You get your when things don't go well. You get your life together and you get back on the life together and you get back on the life together and you get back on the horse, so to speak. So next episode we horse, so to speak. So next episode we horse, so to speak. So next episode we got Henry Cloud. Believe it or not, got Henry Cloud. Believe it or not, got Henry Cloud. Believe it or not, Henry really disagrees that leadership Henry really disagrees that leadership Henry really disagrees that leadership is lonely. He says it is not. And we is lonely. He says it is not. And we is lonely. He says it is not. And we talk about founderitis and why you're in talk about founderitis and why you're in talk about founderitis and why you're in more control than you think. Also coming more control than you think. Also coming more control than you think. Also coming up, we got Patrick Lion, Craig Gelle, up, we got Patrick Lion, Craig Gelle, up, we got Patrick Lion, Craig Gelle, Dr. Wayne Chappelle. Together, we sat

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