Leveraging Stewardship for Kingdom Expansion - Meagan Brown of Mortarstone

today i'm speaking with megan brown today i'm speaking with megan brown megan works for more stone and i'll let megan works for more stone and i'll let megan works for more stone and i'll let her tell you what they do her tell you what they do her tell you what they do but megan is extremely knowledgeable in but megan is extremely knowledgeable in but megan is extremely knowledgeable in church stewardship and giving church stewardship and giving church stewardship and giving she's an expert and mortar stone they she's an expert and mortar stone they she's an expert and mortar stone they work with hundreds of churches work with hundreds of churches work with hundreds of churches uh and in this area of of giving and uh and in this area of of giving and uh and in this area of of giving and enough stewardship enough stewardship enough stewardship and they're they're working with and they're they're working with and they're they're working with churches on how to be more engaging with churches on how to be more engaging with churches on how to be more engaging with their donors you might not think this is their donors you might not think this is their donors you might not think this is an important topic to watch but let me an important topic to watch but let me an important topic to watch but let me tell you tell you tell you i think churches need to take giving and i think churches need to take giving and i think churches need to take giving and online giving and stewardship online giving and stewardship online giving and stewardship and data around giving very seriously and data around giving very seriously and data around giving very seriously the transfer of wealth in our country the transfer of wealth in our country the transfer of wealth in our country over the next decade is immense and over the next decade is immense and over the next decade is immense and you need to think differently if i would you need to think differently if i would you need to think differently if i would have told you back in february that have told you back in february that have told you back in february that starting in march no churches in our starting in march no churches in our starting in march no churches in our country will be able to meet in person country will be able to meet in person country will be able to meet in person for months to come for months to come for months to come you would have thought i was crazy well you would have thought i was crazy well you would have thought i was crazy well i'm telling you that i'm telling you that i'm telling you that you just can't keep doing online giving you just can't keep doing online giving you just can't keep doing online giving or or or giving in general like you have in the giving in general like you have in the giving in general like you have in the past past past times are changing so i'm really excited times are changing so i'm really excited times are changing so i'm really excited to to to have you here from megan enjoy well hey have you here from megan enjoy well hey have you here from megan enjoy well hey i am here with megan megan i am here with megan megan i am here with megan megan how are you today i am really good how are you today i am really good how are you today i am really good today is a good day it's not monday so today is a good day it's not monday so today is a good day it's not monday so it's a good it's it's a good it's it's a good it's and we could call it tuesday you put uh well thanks for joining us today so uh well thanks for joining us today so excited about this particular topic excited about this particular topic excited about this particular topic because i it's close to my heart because i it's close to my heart because i it's close to my heart when it comes to generosity and when it comes to generosity and when it comes to generosity and stewardship and

stewardship and stewardship and just helping churches or para church just helping churches or para church just helping churches or para church organizations organizations organizations get better in this space and and the get better in this space and and the get better in this space and and the church absolutely needs church absolutely needs church absolutely needs especially in this time of here we are especially in this time of here we are especially in this time of here we are in september of 2020 in september of 2020 in september of 2020 in the middle of a pandemic in churches in the middle of a pandemic in churches in the middle of a pandemic in churches of all of them have had to switch and of all of them have had to switch and of all of them have had to switch and and kind of and kind of and kind of change gears or pivot and and so this change gears or pivot and and so this change gears or pivot and and so this this concept of giving is this concept of giving is this concept of giving is is really real to them right now because is really real to them right now because is really real to them right now because people are not in their building people are not in their building people are not in their building for the most part so first of all uh for the most part so first of all uh for the most part so first of all uh talk to me a little bit about mortar talk to me a little bit about mortar talk to me a little bit about mortar stone what is the stone what is the stone what is the mission of mortar stone what is it you mission of mortar stone what is it you mission of mortar stone what is it you do to serve churches do to serve churches do to serve churches absolutely well thanks for letting me absolutely well thanks for letting me absolutely well thanks for letting me share so mortar stone is really a share so mortar stone is really a share so mortar stone is really a three-part three-part three-part company and we start with an analytical company and we start with an analytical company and we start with an analytical framework framework framework of saying we need to start to inspect of saying we need to start to inspect of saying we need to start to inspect what we expect what we expect what we expect and so that's really the heartbeat of and so that's really the heartbeat of and so that's really the heartbeat of how mortar stone was founded is saying how mortar stone was founded is saying how mortar stone was founded is saying let's take a look at this thing called let's take a look at this thing called let's take a look at this thing called giving and the precious men and women giving and the precious men and women giving and the precious men and women who are attached to it the givers who are attached to it the givers who are attached to it the givers and let's see if we're really doing what and let's see if we're really doing what and let's see if we're really doing what we think we think we think we're doing well let's analyze it and we're doing well let's analyze it and we're doing well let's analyze it and see if we're doing it well see if we're doing it well see if we're doing it well are we measuring things that are are we measuring things that are are we measuring things that are important and are we able to important and are we able to important and are we able to put some framework around that to say put some framework around that to say put some framework around that to say man we expect man we expect man we expect this are we inspecting it to make sure this are we inspecting it to make sure this are we inspecting it to make sure that it's hitting that it's hitting that it's hitting all cylinders so we do we do analytics all cylinders so we do we do analytics all cylinders so we do we do analytics the second thing that we do as a company the second thing that we do as a company the second thing that we do as a company is we is we is we do professional engagement consulting do professional engagement consulting do professional engagement consulting around how to around how to around how to do giver development strategies

do giver development strategies do giver development strategies and generosity and stewardship and generosity and stewardship and generosity and stewardship ministries as it relates to the three ministries as it relates to the three ministries as it relates to the three big ways a church can fund big ways a church can fund big ways a church can fund all the things that we have to do for all the things that we have to do for all the things that we have to do for ministry so the three big things would ministry so the three big things would ministry so the three big things would be be be how are we going to reach our annual how are we going to reach our annual how are we going to reach our annual funding goals funding goals funding goals how are we going to reach all of our how are we going to reach all of our how are we going to reach all of our capital needs that we might have for capital needs that we might have for capital needs that we might have for buildings or buildings or buildings or renovations or capital projects at large renovations or capital projects at large renovations or capital projects at large and then and then and then how are we going to create long-term how are we going to create long-term how are we going to create long-term sustainability funding sustainability funding sustainability funding to where we are able to grow as a church to where we are able to grow as a church to where we are able to grow as a church and not have debt but be able to truly and not have debt but be able to truly and not have debt but be able to truly be the hands and feet of jesus in our be the hands and feet of jesus in our be the hands and feet of jesus in our community community community so we do things from an analytical so we do things from an analytical so we do things from an analytical framework you know we look at things framework you know we look at things framework you know we look at things through through through a truth lens and then we apply the a truth lens and then we apply the a truth lens and then we apply the spirit so spirit so spirit so spirit and truth um and then we look at spirit and truth um and then we look at spirit and truth um and then we look at things through how can we coach to these things through how can we coach to these things through how can we coach to these through specific strategies through through specific strategies through through specific strategies through giver segmentation through those three giver segmentation through those three giver segmentation through those three major areas that need to be funded major areas that need to be funded major areas that need to be funded and then the third thing that mortar and then the third thing that mortar and then the third thing that mortar stone does is gift stone does is gift stone does is gift administration so that attaches to administration so that attaches to administration so that attaches to long-term funding but we help to say long-term funding but we help to say long-term funding but we help to say help the end giver to meet their desired help the end giver to meet their desired help the end giver to meet their desired needs needs needs of their heart for what god has placed of their heart for what god has placed of their heart for what god has placed on them you know there are these men and on them you know there are these men and on them you know there are these men and women who have the gift of giving women who have the gift of giving women who have the gift of giving and they want to see big things happen and they want to see big things happen and they want to see big things happen and so we help them to meet and so we help them to meet and so we help them to meet for lack of a better term their for lack of a better term their for lack of a better term their philanthropic goals philanthropic goals philanthropic goals through the local church which truly is through the local church which truly is through the local church which truly is the heartbeat of what we're called to do

the heartbeat of what we're called to do the heartbeat of what we're called to do as a church is fund the gospel and so we as a church is fund the gospel and so we as a church is fund the gospel and so we help those attach those givers through help those attach those givers through help those attach those givers through gift administration gift administration gift administration to see those needs met um in the church to see those needs met um in the church to see those needs met um in the church yeah wow yeah i mean you know yeah wow yeah i mean you know yeah wow yeah i mean you know you guys are onto something here because you guys are onto something here because you guys are onto something here because i mean obviously when jesus i mean obviously when jesus i mean obviously when jesus in the gospels he talks about money more in the gospels he talks about money more in the gospels he talks about money more than than than it's an issue with people right money's it's an issue with people right money's it's an issue with people right money's money is a money is a money is a is a vehicle but it can be one of those is a vehicle but it can be one of those is a vehicle but it can be one of those things where it can really things where it can really things where it can really go you take you the wrong direction so go you take you the wrong direction so go you take you the wrong direction so it seems like you're it seems like you're it seems like you're in a such a critical time helping in a such a critical time helping in a such a critical time helping churches churches churches understand how to be a better steward to understand how to be a better steward to understand how to be a better steward to their people on helping them their people on helping them their people on helping them learn generosity learn stewardship learn learn generosity learn stewardship learn learn generosity learn stewardship learn about the tide learn about the offering about the tide learn about the offering about the tide learn about the offering and using this data is really really and using this data is really really and using this data is really really important important important what what are some likes okay now we're what what are some likes okay now we're what what are some likes okay now we're in this season right now with covet in this season right now with covet in this season right now with covet what are some best practices churches what are some best practices churches what are some best practices churches can use can use can use right now to connect with their because right now to connect with their because right now to connect with their because you can't connect with people one-on-one you can't connect with people one-on-one you can't connect with people one-on-one in a building right so you gotta work on in a building right so you gotta work on in a building right so you gotta work on doing it doing it doing it digitally speaking any idea absolutely digitally speaking any idea absolutely digitally speaking any idea absolutely well number one if you have givers who well number one if you have givers who well number one if you have givers who are starting to give for the very first are starting to give for the very first are starting to give for the very first time time time those are the biggest that is the those are the biggest that is the those are the biggest that is the biggest biggest biggest group of giver segmentation that you can group of giver segmentation that you can group of giver segmentation that you can reach out to reach out to reach out to because what we've seen as a trend is because what we've seen as a trend is because what we've seen as a trend is that overall most that overall most that overall most churches are up in their general fund churches are up in their general fund churches are up in their general fund budget budget budget but it's coming off of the backs of a but it's coming off of the backs of a but it's coming off of the backs of a few from their top

few from their top few from their top giver constituents new givers are not giver constituents new givers are not giver constituents new givers are not coming coming coming in because the doors aren't open and so in because the doors aren't open and so in because the doors aren't open and so that we that we that we know there's no way that new givers can know there's no way that new givers can know there's no way that new givers can even start to give if it's not talked even start to give if it's not talked even start to give if it's not talked about about about during the sermon the sermon or the during the sermon the sermon or the during the sermon the sermon or the offering moment or the prayer offering moment or the prayer offering moment or the prayer or there's not a place that's flashing or there's not a place that's flashing or there's not a place that's flashing on the screen or an on the screen or an on the screen or an on-demand button where they can learn on-demand button where they can learn on-demand button where they can learn more about more about more about what's happening at the local church in what's happening at the local church in what's happening at the local church in this area of giving what the church is this area of giving what the church is this area of giving what the church is doing during this time doing during this time doing during this time so the number one thing that a church so the number one thing that a church so the number one thing that a church can do can do can do during this season is connect with their during this season is connect with their during this season is connect with their new givers new givers new givers if any of them have started to give if if any of them have started to give if if any of them have started to give if you have them and by connecting you need you have them and by connecting you need you have them and by connecting you need more than one strategy more than one strategy more than one strategy so it can't just be reach out to them so it can't just be reach out to them so it can't just be reach out to them and thank them or send them an email and thank them or send them an email and thank them or send them an email and is it okay to ask new people to give and is it okay to ask new people to give and is it okay to ask new people to give absolutely if you believe in what you're absolutely if you believe in what you're absolutely if you believe in what you're doing as a church and what you're doing doing as a church and what you're doing doing as a church and what you're doing is impacting your community your city is impacting your community your city is impacting your community your city and ultimately your old your overall and ultimately your old your overall and ultimately your old your overall visions for a church that hasn't changed visions for a church that hasn't changed visions for a church that hasn't changed your vision for the church should not your vision for the church should not your vision for the church should not have changed just because of a few have changed just because of a few have changed just because of a few months months months you still have a goal to do ministry for you still have a goal to do ministry for you still have a goal to do ministry for the people who are coming to the church the people who are coming to the church the people who are coming to the church you still have a goal or attending you still have a goal or attending you still have a goal or attending online you still have a goal for your online you still have a goal for your online you still have a goal for your community community community for your city and for your outreaches for your city and for your outreaches for your city and for your outreaches and that goal is something that and that goal is something that and that goal is something that we are better together at when we unite we are better together at when we unite we are better together at when we unite together we're better to together we're better to together we're better to lock arms and give towards those things lock arms and give towards those things lock arms and give towards those things together than we are trying to do it together than we are trying to do it together than we are trying to do it individually so

individually so individually so asking people to give towards the asking people to give towards the asking people to give towards the ultimate goals of ultimate goals of ultimate goals of funding the gospel of christ and helping funding the gospel of christ and helping funding the gospel of christ and helping with ministries is something that we with ministries is something that we with ministries is something that we should not be ashamed of doing should not be ashamed of doing should not be ashamed of doing well you know i kind of learned this in well you know i kind of learned this in well you know i kind of learned this in my days working in the church my days working in the church my days working in the church and i felt like if we didn't sometimes and i felt like if we didn't sometimes and i felt like if we didn't sometimes we didn't want to ask because oh no this we didn't want to ask because oh no this we didn't want to ask because oh no this is just for people who call this their is just for people who call this their is just for people who call this their home church home church home church but what i learned um through a good but what i learned um through a good but what i learned um through a good friend of ours dave briggs was friend of ours dave briggs was friend of ours dave briggs was we were robbing people of their we were robbing people of their we were robbing people of their opportunity to worship god opportunity to worship god opportunity to worship god even if they don't have a relationship even if they don't have a relationship even if they don't have a relationship with him with him with him and they don't say that this is my home and they don't say that this is my home and they don't say that this is my home church by not church by not church by not allowing them to participate we were allowing them to participate we were allowing them to participate we were taking something from them taking something from them taking something from them right and that and and to me that that right and that and and to me that that right and that and and to me that that that was a lesson i learned going wait a that was a lesson i learned going wait a that was a lesson i learned going wait a minute here what are we doing here we're minute here what are we doing here we're minute here what are we doing here we're actually actually actually causing them not to rejoice and and causing them not to rejoice and and causing them not to rejoice and and praise god for what they've been blessed praise god for what they've been blessed praise god for what they've been blessed with with with absolutely i think that we have to be absolutely i think that we have to be absolutely i think that we have to be aware during this season aware during this season aware during this season as a church that we have the most as a church that we have the most as a church that we have the most important thing that we are working to important thing that we are working to important thing that we are working to fund fund fund and non-profit organizations are never and non-profit organizations are never and non-profit organizations are never ever ever ever ever ever afraid to ask for you to ever ever afraid to ask for you to ever ever afraid to ask for you to support their mission support their mission support their mission whether it's the local animal shelter or whether it's the local animal shelter or whether it's the local animal shelter or the the the the homeless shelter or the red cross or the homeless shelter or the red cross or the homeless shelter or the red cross or whatever whatever whatever they're not ashamed to ask her to say they're not ashamed to ask her to say they're not ashamed to ask her to say you should be joining this mission you should be joining this mission you should be joining this mission so believers and unbelievers are so believers and unbelievers are so believers and unbelievers are constantly giving towards those missions constantly giving towards those missions constantly giving towards those missions but we have 52 weeks a year where people but we have 52 weeks a year where people but we have 52 weeks a year where people are seeking our services are seeking our services are seeking our services and now the online viewership is

and now the online viewership is and now the online viewership is probably going through the roof probably going through the roof probably going through the roof people are wanting to attach themselves people are wanting to attach themselves people are wanting to attach themselves to what's to what's to what's true and authentic and real and that is true and authentic and real and that is true and authentic and real and that is the hope of jesus christ and so the hope of jesus christ and so the hope of jesus christ and so if we can ask them to join that mission if we can ask them to join that mission if we can ask them to join that mission even if they're not a believer yet even if they're not a believer yet even if they're not a believer yet they still will be able to be excited they still will be able to be excited they still will be able to be excited about seeing somebody's life be about seeing somebody's life be about seeing somebody's life be transformed or a single mom transformed or a single mom transformed or a single mom be given a car or a child be given a car or a child be given a car or a child be given a laptop so they can work be given a laptop so they can work be given a laptop so they can work virtually from virtually from virtually from home i mean people want to celebrate home i mean people want to celebrate home i mean people want to celebrate other people other people other people so we get to do that as a church so we get to do that as a church so we get to do that as a church so talk to uh talk to us about what so talk to uh talk to us about what so talk to uh talk to us about what churches churches churches you know how how transparent should they you know how how transparent should they you know how how transparent should they be when they're talking to be when they're talking to be when they're talking to new maybe even younger families new maybe even younger families new maybe even younger families um that are perhaps a little bit more um that are perhaps a little bit more um that are perhaps a little bit more sophistic not necessarily sophisticated sophistic not necessarily sophisticated sophistic not necessarily sophisticated but they but they but they they want to learn they want to know they want to learn they want to know they want to learn they want to know what their giving is going to what their giving is going to what their giving is going to to what can churches do to be more to what can churches do to be more to what can churches do to be more transparent in that space transparent in that space transparent in that space well certainly you need to be well certainly you need to be well certainly you need to be highlighting those things through highlighting those things through highlighting those things through stories stories stories video stories that you're sharing impact video stories that you're sharing impact video stories that you're sharing impact of lives being changed of lives being changed of lives being changed those are things that should be those are things that should be those are things that should be displayed on the give pla give page on displayed on the give pla give page on displayed on the give pla give page on your website your website your website those should be the videos they should those should be the videos they should those should be the videos they should be stories or links there should be be stories or links there should be be stories or links there should be testimonials there should be testimonials there should be testimonials there should be opportunities to be able to say this is opportunities to be able to say this is opportunities to be able to say this is what what what we believe as a church and then this is we believe as a church and then this is we believe as a church and then this is how we've accomplished that how we've accomplished that how we've accomplished that um as as a church body so those are some um as as a church body so those are some um as as a church body so those are some some simple ways to be able to think some simple ways to be able to think some simple ways to be able to think through that

through that through that and then and then when you when you work and then and then when you when you work and then and then when you when you work with churches with churches with churches i'm gonna go back to that the data and i'm gonna go back to that the data and i'm gonna go back to that the data and the analytics part the analytics part the analytics part what's a typical story that you hear what's a typical story that you hear what's a typical story that you hear when you when you when you when you work with a church like when when you work with a church like when when you work with a church like when you're when you're digging into their you're when you're digging into their you're when you're digging into their data data data what's one thing that pops in your mind what's one thing that pops in your mind what's one thing that pops in your mind that this this always happens to this that this this always happens to this that this this always happens to this church and what they can learn from church and what they can learn from church and what they can learn from what's something that what's something that what's something that we can take away with with learning from we can take away with with learning from we can take away with with learning from about data about data about data communicating your story is going to be communicating your story is going to be communicating your story is going to be the biggest opportunity that you have the biggest opportunity that you have the biggest opportunity that you have and we know that as believers but if and we know that as believers but if and we know that as believers but if you've not you've not you've not communicated your story well to the communicated your story well to the communicated your story well to the masses masses masses you're only going to be funded by a few you're only going to be funded by a few you're only going to be funded by a few and and and there are there are discipleship gaps there are there are discipleship gaps there are there are discipleship gaps when it comes to finances that we need when it comes to finances that we need when it comes to finances that we need to be able to shore to be able to shore to be able to shore up for people who who have maybe never up for people who who have maybe never up for people who who have maybe never learned or have learned incorrectly learned or have learned incorrectly learned or have learned incorrectly about what the bible has to say when it about what the bible has to say when it about what the bible has to say when it comes to money comes to money comes to money and so something that i see inevitably and so something that i see inevitably and so something that i see inevitably all the time most all the time most all the time most churches is that they are funded by a churches is that they are funded by a churches is that they are funded by a few few few and not by the masses and so if they're and not by the masses and so if they're and not by the masses and so if they're if the masses which we would consider we if the masses which we would consider we if the masses which we would consider we call these things bans call these things bans call these things bans levels of which people are giving at to levels of which people are giving at to levels of which people are giving at to support the local church support the local church support the local church if your bands four and five are are the if your bands four and five are are the if your bands four and five are are the ones who are carrying the heavy load of ones who are carrying the heavy load of ones who are carrying the heavy load of the general fund budget the general fund budget the general fund budget then we have a discipleship problem on then we have a discipleship problem on then we have a discipleship problem on the opposite end there there are people the opposite end there there are people the opposite end there there are people who are either not discipled well when who are either not discipled well when who are either not discipled well when it comes to the area of finances or

it comes to the area of finances or it comes to the area of finances or they're strapped financially they're strapped financially they're strapped financially and either one of those things are and either one of those things are and either one of those things are things that the church should care about things that the church should care about things that the church should care about helping their members and givers to do helping their members and givers to do helping their members and givers to do better at better at better at so we care about many other things we so we care about many other things we so we care about many other things we care about care about care about marriage and kids we care about jobs we marriage and kids we care about jobs we marriage and kids we care about jobs we care about all these other things care about all these other things care about all these other things but this is one of the number one areas but this is one of the number one areas but this is one of the number one areas that people get into that people get into that people get into trouble with and it can cause a lot of trouble with and it can cause a lot of trouble with and it can cause a lot of shame guilt or condemnation shame guilt or condemnation shame guilt or condemnation none of which are of jesus so if we can none of which are of jesus so if we can none of which are of jesus so if we can disciple disciple disciple through that then we're able to help put through that then we're able to help put through that then we're able to help put those people on a pathway to their those people on a pathway to their those people on a pathway to their relationship with god in that area relationship with god in that area relationship with god in that area so uh what what uh so uh what what uh so uh what what uh what's a what's a success story from a what's a what's a success story from a what's a what's a success story from a church that comes to your mind of yeah church that comes to your mind of yeah church that comes to your mind of yeah we started working with this church and we started working with this church and we started working with this church and they started to get it they started to get it they started to get it and while you're thinking of that uh i and while you're thinking of that uh i and while you're thinking of that uh i often you know when i talk to churches often you know when i talk to churches often you know when i talk to churches we we kind of stay in the lane of church we we kind of stay in the lane of church we we kind of stay in the lane of church growth but see to me growth but see to me growth but see to me this is a huge area part of church this is a huge area part of church this is a huge area part of church growth is helping growth is helping growth is helping somebody understand what biblical somebody understand what biblical somebody understand what biblical stewardship looks like and it stewardship looks like and it stewardship looks like and it and it always when i look at what and it always when i look at what and it always when i look at what churches are preaching on churches are preaching on churches are preaching on hardly ever do i see a sermon series on hardly ever do i see a sermon series on hardly ever do i see a sermon series on money money money you know it's just like churches just you know it's just like churches just you know it's just like churches just don't go there very often and i don't don't go there very often and i don't don't go there very often and i don't know why maybe pastors are afraid to know why maybe pastors are afraid to know why maybe pastors are afraid to talk about it because maybe their talk about it because maybe their talk about it because maybe their own personal finances aren't in order or own personal finances aren't in order or own personal finances aren't in order or the church's finances are a little out the church's finances are a little out the church's finances are a little out of whack of whack of whack um so what's you know what's it what um so what's you know what's it what um so what's you know what's it what should it how often should a church be

should it how often should a church be should it how often should a church be talking about this talking about this talking about this you know the idea of money and and then you know the idea of money and and then you know the idea of money and and then what is what is what is what is the success story that mortar what is the success story that mortar what is the success story that mortar stone has stone has stone has uh uh been a part of with a church where uh uh been a part of with a church where uh uh been a part of with a church where they totally got it and when they they they totally got it and when they they they totally got it and when they they went from here to there went from here to there went from here to there you know in their journey of working you know in their journey of working you know in their journey of working with you yeah with you yeah with you yeah for sure well so the the the success for sure well so the the the success for sure well so the the the success story is one thing and then please story is one thing and then please story is one thing and then please remind me the remind me the remind me the the other part of the question was well the other part of the question was well the other part of the question was well just the idea where just the idea where just the idea where how often should a church be talking how often should a church be talking how often should a church be talking about maybe even from the pulpit about maybe even from the pulpit about maybe even from the pulpit okay well i have to believe that okay well i have to believe that okay well i have to believe that our vision has to be funded right as our vision has to be funded right as our vision has to be funded right as christians christians christians so um does our vision ever not need to so um does our vision ever not need to so um does our vision ever not need to be funded no be funded no be funded no so then should we be talking about it so then should we be talking about it so then should we be talking about it absolutely we have 52 weeks out of the absolutely we have 52 weeks out of the absolutely we have 52 weeks out of the year year year to be able to share the vision and the to be able to share the vision and the to be able to share the vision and the needs to paint the picture to paint the needs to paint the picture to paint the needs to paint the picture to paint the success success success so there should be something um not so there should be something um not so there should be something um not completely in your face we don't ever completely in your face we don't ever completely in your face we don't ever want to feel like we're fundraising want to feel like we're fundraising want to feel like we're fundraising fundraising is never fun right fundraising is never fun right fundraising is never fun right um and that can being fun raised um and that can being fun raised um and that can being fun raised makes you feel icky and you almost feel makes you feel icky and you almost feel makes you feel icky and you almost feel like grateful when you're through with like grateful when you're through with like grateful when you're through with the project like oh i'm done with that the project like oh i'm done with that the project like oh i'm done with that well no we need to be faith raised we well no we need to be faith raised we well no we need to be faith raised we need to be need to be need to be excited so when we're talking about excited so when we're talking about excited so when we're talking about money it should be almost as like the money it should be almost as like the money it should be almost as like the air that we're breathing air that we're breathing air that we're breathing we talk about money affects every area we talk about money affects every area we talk about money affects every area of our lives of our lives of our lives every person's area of their life every every person's area of their life every every person's area of their life every day day day and so we as a church need to embrace

and so we as a church need to embrace and so we as a church need to embrace that and share with them biblical that and share with them biblical that and share with them biblical principles and truths principles and truths principles and truths and it doesn't have to be sermon series and it doesn't have to be sermon series and it doesn't have to be sermon series every single week but there are things every single week but there are things every single week but there are things you can do communicating the stories you can do communicating the stories you can do communicating the stories throughout the week throughout the week throughout the week or the needs throughout the week or or the needs throughout the week or or the needs throughout the week or through the ministries or highlighting through the ministries or highlighting through the ministries or highlighting the impact of the stories and that needs the impact of the stories and that needs the impact of the stories and that needs to be done on a very consistent and to be done on a very consistent and to be done on a very consistent and regular basis regular basis regular basis it's part of transparency and it's part of transparency and it's part of transparency and authenticity authenticity authenticity and those two things need to be easy to and those two things need to be easy to and those two things need to be easy to get to get to get to and especially in the digital age in and especially in the digital age in and especially in the digital age in which we live which we live which we live you've got to have your website ready to you've got to have your website ready to you've got to have your website ready to be able to share what you believe about be able to share what you believe about be able to share what you believe about this area this area this area what you're doing to support through all what you're doing to support through all what you're doing to support through all those amazing those amazing those amazing ministries that you have the needs that ministries that you have the needs that ministries that you have the needs that there still there still there still are to be met and then the future of are to be met and then the future of are to be met and then the future of where we're going where we're going where we're going so we always want to celebrate and paint so we always want to celebrate and paint so we always want to celebrate and paint a success story for the future a success story for the future a success story for the future thinking about a success story with thinking about a success story with thinking about a success story with somebody who we've been able to really somebody who we've been able to really somebody who we've been able to really work with and work with and work with and anybody who we work with it's just a anybody who we work with it's just a anybody who we work with it's just a true genuine opportunity to say thank true genuine opportunity to say thank true genuine opportunity to say thank you lord for allowing us to go you lord for allowing us to go you lord for allowing us to go um miles deep and wide with um miles deep and wide with um miles deep and wide with your precious sons and daughters because your precious sons and daughters because your precious sons and daughters because it is just it is just it is just talking about this area is like opening talking about this area is like opening talking about this area is like opening up a deep spot in your heart and saying up a deep spot in your heart and saying up a deep spot in your heart and saying like here's my stuff like here's my stuff like here's my stuff you know um so a success story would be you know um so a success story would be you know um so a success story would be that one of the churches that we started that one of the churches that we started that one of the churches that we started working with on an analytic basis working with on an analytic basis working with on an analytic basis realized the true need for new givers realized the true need for new givers realized the true need for new givers and being able to not only reach out to and being able to not only reach out to and being able to not only reach out to them them them one time but to be able to reach out to

one time but to be able to reach out to one time but to be able to reach out to them them them throughout the consistency of an entire throughout the consistency of an entire throughout the consistency of an entire year year year so they went as deep as having a 12 so they went as deep as having a 12 so they went as deep as having a 12 month strategy for connecting with those month strategy for connecting with those month strategy for connecting with those people who had given a people who had given a people who had given a very first time gift ever and their very first time gift ever and their very first time gift ever and their retention retention retention rate went through the roof so and this rate went through the roof so and this rate went through the roof so and this wasn't in a small church this was about wasn't in a small church this was about wasn't in a small church this was about a three and a half to four million a three and a half to four million a three and a half to four million dollar church dollar church dollar church it was a single campus location church it was a single campus location church it was a single campus location church which is even more like oh wow you which is even more like oh wow you which is even more like oh wow you your retention went through the roof um your retention went through the roof um your retention went through the roof um and they they and they they and they they got to where they had a 50 retention got to where they had a 50 retention got to where they had a 50 retention rate with first-time givers at the end rate with first-time givers at the end rate with first-time givers at the end of the year of the year of the year and that's incredible because what we and that's incredible because what we and that's incredible because what we typically see typically see typically see is that the retention rates are is that the retention rates are is that the retention rates are somewhere for first-time givers somewhere for first-time givers somewhere for first-time givers anywhere between 18 and 30 percent and anywhere between 18 and 30 percent and anywhere between 18 and 30 percent and so so so this church grew to a 50 retention rate this church grew to a 50 retention rate this church grew to a 50 retention rate over the course of a year developing out over the course of a year developing out over the course of a year developing out a strategy to be able to share the story a strategy to be able to share the story a strategy to be able to share the story and the impact and the successes of and the impact and the successes of and the impact and the successes of what was happening with the dollars that what was happening with the dollars that what was happening with the dollars that were being entrusted to their care were being entrusted to their care were being entrusted to their care sounds like just putting forethought sounds like just putting forethought sounds like just putting forethought into into into and thinking and implementing those and thinking and implementing those and thinking and implementing those strategies that mortarstone has strategies that mortarstone has strategies that mortarstone has pays for itself time and time again pays for itself time and time again pays for itself time and time again because you're you're bringing not only because you're you're bringing not only because you're you're bringing not only are you getting people to buy in with are you getting people to buy in with are you getting people to buy in with their money their hard-earned money and their money their hard-earned money and their money their hard-earned money and giving it to the church and investing in giving it to the church and investing in giving it to the church and investing in the church the church the church but now you've you probably have a but now you've you probably have a but now you've you probably have a family that's there for a lifetime family that's there for a lifetime family that's there for a lifetime right they are bought in so yeah right they are bought in so yeah right they are bought in so yeah that is that's that's really impressive

that is that's that's really impressive that is that's that's really impressive well it's not an easy button right it's well it's not an easy button right it's well it's not an easy button right it's not like the easy button that you can not like the easy button that you can not like the easy button that you can press it does require work press it does require work press it does require work and with givers you're planting seeds and with givers you're planting seeds and with givers you're planting seeds and those seeds have to be watered and and those seeds have to be watered and and those seeds have to be watered and cultivated cultivated cultivated before you'll ever see a harvest of before you'll ever see a harvest of before you'll ever see a harvest of fruit from them fruit from them fruit from them so it's worth it it's worth the effort so it's worth it it's worth the effort so it's worth it it's worth the effort if you're willing to go forward with it if you're willing to go forward with it if you're willing to go forward with it and it will take time and it will take time and it will take time but you will reap a harvest from those but you will reap a harvest from those but you will reap a harvest from those seeds which you've sewn seeds which you've sewn seeds which you've sewn yeah and i think one of the things you yeah and i think one of the things you yeah and i think one of the things you said i thought was was really important said i thought was was really important said i thought was was really important um and that is your website so often um and that is your website so often um and that is your website so often you go to a church website and there's a you go to a church website and there's a you go to a church website and there's a give button you click on it and it give button you click on it and it give button you click on it and it basically just takes you basically just takes you basically just takes you it's just a trans like you go to a page it's just a trans like you go to a page it's just a trans like you go to a page where now you can where now you can where now you can enter in your you can log in or you can enter in your you can log in or you can enter in your you can log in or you can enter a dollar amount and hit enter a dollar amount and hit enter a dollar amount and hit extend and you just did a transaction extend and you just did a transaction extend and you just did a transaction but that was a money transaction that but that was a money transaction that but that was a money transaction that wasn't a wasn't a wasn't a spiritual transaction if you will spiritual transaction if you will spiritual transaction if you will yes and i i uh and i don't know if i'm yes and i i uh and i don't know if i'm yes and i i uh and i don't know if i'm saying that right but i saying that right but i saying that right but i what i am saying though is i i like it what i am saying though is i i like it what i am saying though is i i like it when i go to a church website i hit the when i go to a church website i hit the when i go to a church website i hit the give button give button give button and i see here's what here's where your and i see here's what here's where your and i see here's what here's where your money is going towards money is going towards money is going towards we had this many baptisms we had this we had this many baptisms we had this we had this many baptisms we had this many salvations many salvations many salvations we had this many impacts with our local we had this many impacts with our local we had this many impacts with our local schools whatever might be schools whatever might be schools whatever might be this many outreach you know all the this many outreach you know all the this many outreach you know all the different things that the money's going different things that the money's going different things that the money's going towards towards towards that really gets i get excited i'm not that really gets i get excited i'm not that really gets i get excited i'm not even even even i'm just checking out your church i'm just checking out your church i'm just checking out your church because we work with churches all over because we work with churches all over because we work with churches all over the country and i get excited about your the country and i get excited about your the country and i get excited about your church church church just by seeing the results and i know just by seeing the results and i know just by seeing the results and i know those are just those are just those are just numbers but that number represents a

numbers but that number represents a numbers but that number represents a human human human a child of god that's been changed for a child of god that's been changed for a child of god that's been changed for the better and so before i even want to the better and so before i even want to the better and so before i even want to give that gift give that gift give that gift you're cultivating me to change my heart you're cultivating me to change my heart you're cultivating me to change my heart and i think that's a and i think that's a and i think that's a you just i didn't make that connect that you just i didn't make that connect that you just i didn't make that connect that dot till you just said that dot till you just said that dot till you just said that that actually is a really powerful thing that actually is a really powerful thing that actually is a really powerful thing i think that most people i think that most people i think that most people jason would in your website should try jason would in your website should try jason would in your website should try to address this to address this to address this is that most people even christians who is that most people even christians who is that most people even christians who give give give would say i understand that god owns it would say i understand that god owns it would say i understand that god owns it all all all god owns everything yeah but are we god owns everything yeah but are we god owns everything yeah but are we living living living that way does your pocket does your that way does your pocket does your that way does your pocket does your pocketbook does your checkbook pocketbook does your checkbook pocketbook does your checkbook does your your app does it does it does your your app does it does it does your your app does it does it follow that do you really are you follow that do you really are you follow that do you really are you practicing what you believe practicing what you believe practicing what you believe um not practicing what you preach are um not practicing what you preach are um not practicing what you preach are you practicing what you believe you practicing what you believe you practicing what you believe if you believe that god owns all of it if you believe that god owns all of it if you believe that god owns all of it are you living that way and how to give are you living that way and how to give are you living that way and how to give the way that you said it is a money the way that you said it is a money the way that you said it is a money transaction transaction transaction yes that is what most churches have yes that is what most churches have yes that is what most churches have gotten really good at doing gotten really good at doing gotten really good at doing and please don't hear me wrong we have and please don't hear me wrong we have and please don't hear me wrong we have to be able to do that and it's the to be able to do that and it's the to be able to do that and it's the society in which we live in the culture society in which we live in the culture society in which we live in the culture in which we live we have to be able to in which we live we have to be able to in which we live we have to be able to have quick easy accessible ways to give have quick easy accessible ways to give have quick easy accessible ways to give but how to give shouldn't be is it from but how to give shouldn't be is it from but how to give shouldn't be is it from your bank account your credit card your your bank account your credit card your your bank account your credit card your your cash your check your e-check yes your cash your check your e-check yes your cash your check your e-check yes those are practical ways those are practical ways those are practical ways but how to give should be more along the but how to give should be more along the but how to give should be more along the lines of lines of lines of how do i give out of the abundance of how do i give out of the abundance of how do i give out of the abundance of which god has entrusted me with which god has entrusted me with which god has entrusted me with how do i give this back how much is

how do i give this back how much is how do i give this back how much is enough for me enough for me enough for me and then god where is the rest of it and then god where is the rest of it and then god where is the rest of it supposed to go supposed to go supposed to go and that's what your giving website and that's what your giving website and that's what your giving website should be should be should be working to towards is teaching people working to towards is teaching people working to towards is teaching people what you as a church what you as a church what you as a church body as the as the leaders as the body as the as the leaders as the body as the as the leaders as the the pastors and the elders and the the pastors and the elders and the the pastors and the elders and the ministers this is what we believe ministers this is what we believe ministers this is what we believe we believe that in this and this is what we believe that in this and this is what we believe that in this and this is what we're doing with it we're doing with it we're doing with it how much is enough for us as a church how much is enough for us as a church how much is enough for us as a church how much is how much is how much is enough for us as individuals and then enough for us as individuals and then enough for us as individuals and then how do we live how do we live how do we live our life out to give it away rather than our life out to give it away rather than our life out to give it away rather than trying to acquire trying to acquire trying to acquire balance items on the balance sheet how balance items on the balance sheet how balance items on the balance sheet how do we give those things do we give those things do we give those things to the kingdom of heaven yeah how do we to the kingdom of heaven yeah how do we to the kingdom of heaven yeah how do we give them to the men and the women the give them to the men and the women the give them to the men and the women the sons and the daughters sons and the daughters sons and the daughters and explaining those things is a and explaining those things is a and explaining those things is a spiritual transaction of how to give spiritual transaction of how to give spiritual transaction of how to give not a practical transaction of how to not a practical transaction of how to not a practical transaction of how to give wow give wow give wow and i know i'm like on the the bandwagon and i know i'm like on the the bandwagon and i know i'm like on the the bandwagon here but i have to say this too here but i have to say this too here but i have to say this too how to give if we're going to address how to give if we're going to address how to give if we're going to address how to give how to give how to give from check or cash or ach or credit card from check or cash or ach or credit card from check or cash or ach or credit card then we also need to be able to address then we also need to be able to address then we also need to be able to address how to give how to give how to give from from the assets in which we have from from the assets in which we have from from the assets in which we have we have accumulated over the course of we have accumulated over the course of we have accumulated over the course of our lifetime our lifetime our lifetime how do we give to be able to say this how do we give to be able to say this how do we give to be able to say this was a boat that i had and i'm selling it was a boat that i had and i'm selling it was a boat that i had and i'm selling it and maybe the lord would have me to sell and maybe the lord would have me to sell and maybe the lord would have me to sell it so that i can give the dollars to the it so that i can give the dollars to the it so that i can give the dollars to the church church church and avoid a taxable consequence right and avoid a taxable consequence right and avoid a taxable consequence right got to be smart about got to be smart about got to be smart about how to give from those things too yeah how to give from those things too yeah how to give from those things too yeah yeah you know and it seems like we're

yeah you know and it seems like we're yeah you know and it seems like we're obviously in a new day with covid i obviously in a new day with covid i obviously in a new day with covid i don't know if don't know if don't know if it's ever get there's a new normal in it's ever get there's a new normal in it's ever get there's a new normal in sight you know and whatever that's going sight you know and whatever that's going sight you know and whatever that's going to be to be to be churches have to pivot and and i think churches have to pivot and and i think churches have to pivot and and i think this is one of those areas where this is one of those areas where this is one of those areas where if they've had to in fact we had a lot if they've had to in fact we had a lot if they've had to in fact we had a lot of churches reach out to us going of churches reach out to us going of churches reach out to us going hey missionary can you help me you know hey missionary can you help me you know hey missionary can you help me you know with my website and create an with my website and create an with my website and create an online give button i'm going how did you online give button i'm going how did you online give button i'm going how did you not have this before not have this before not have this before but you didn't okay so it's caused but you didn't okay so it's caused but you didn't okay so it's caused every church to have to pivot i think every church to have to pivot i think every church to have to pivot i think now more than ever now more than ever now more than ever a church has to continue to look towards a church has to continue to look towards a church has to continue to look towards the future and make more the future and make more the future and make more pivots in this area of of giving and pivots in this area of of giving and pivots in this area of of giving and and really in my opinion leaning on and really in my opinion leaning on and really in my opinion leaning on mortar stone to help mortar stone to help mortar stone to help navigate that water because i i think a navigate that water because i i think a navigate that water because i i think a lot of churches lot of churches lot of churches just they haven't really thought through just they haven't really thought through just they haven't really thought through it all the way it all the way it all the way so what would you recommend a church so what would you recommend a church so what would you recommend a church does first to engage with you guys and does first to engage with you guys and does first to engage with you guys and how do they go about doing that how do they go about doing that how do they go about doing that well um whoo well um whoo well um whoo the first thing that they would do to the first thing that they would do to the first thing that they would do to engage with us would just simply be to engage with us would just simply be to engage with us would just simply be to you can reach out to me by email or you you can reach out to me by email or you you can reach out to me by email or you can go to our website can go to our website can go to our website we've got a help like an automatic chat we've got a help like an automatic chat we've got a help like an automatic chat button that you can button that you can button that you can chat in with somebody like hey like to chat in with somebody like hey like to chat in with somebody like hey like to speak with somebody right now speak with somebody right now speak with somebody right now and we can get you connected immediately and we can get you connected immediately and we can get you connected immediately to be able to set up an to be able to set up an to be able to set up an opportunity to meet with if you want opportunity to meet with if you want opportunity to meet with if you want um to look at an analytical overview um to look at an analytical overview um to look at an analytical overview that's really an easy place to start and that's really an easy place to start and that's really an easy place to start and so you can do that by simply going to so you can do that by simply going to so you can do that by simply going to our website our website our website filling out a demo request form or filling out a demo request form or filling out a demo request form or typing into the live chat or you can

typing into the live chat or you can typing into the live chat or you can even email me personally and i'm happy even email me personally and i'm happy even email me personally and i'm happy to give my email here at the end to give my email here at the end to give my email here at the end of this time we are here to help support of this time we are here to help support of this time we are here to help support you you you so that's the first thing and then the so that's the first thing and then the so that's the first thing and then the the second thing to the second thing to the second thing to want to really think through though is want to really think through though is want to really think through though is what is it that we're doing as a local what is it that we're doing as a local what is it that we're doing as a local church church church as an individual church body um that is as an individual church body um that is as an individual church body um that is worthy of worthy of worthy of us wanting to display our case for us wanting to display our case for us wanting to display our case for people to give their money to what is people to give their money to what is people to give their money to what is that that that and so you have to start to wrestle with and so you have to start to wrestle with and so you have to start to wrestle with those questions most churches have those questions most churches have those questions most churches have really good vision or mission statements really good vision or mission statements really good vision or mission statements but what are you doing with it but what are you doing with it but what are you doing with it and then how are you funding it great we and then how are you funding it great we and then how are you funding it great we have a vision and mission statement we have a vision and mission statement we have a vision and mission statement we want the power presence and purpose of want the power presence and purpose of want the power presence and purpose of god or we want to god or we want to god or we want to experience church and find community and experience church and find community and experience church and find community and give to the world like you probably know give to the world like you probably know give to the world like you probably know your mission statement your mission statement your mission statement but what are you doing to fund it but what are you doing to fund it but what are you doing to fund it and what are you doing to see the impact and what are you doing to see the impact and what are you doing to see the impact of the lives mean changed and sharing of the lives mean changed and sharing of the lives mean changed and sharing that that that because it all takes money to be able to because it all takes money to be able to because it all takes money to be able to fund those things and so we have to make fund those things and so we have to make fund those things and so we have to make that that that pivot and that click in our mind pivot and that click in our mind pivot and that click in our mind in that regard yeah you you uh you've in that regard yeah you you uh you've in that regard yeah you you uh you've said this before too and i said this before too and i said this before too and i my days before this you know in the my days before this you know in the my days before this you know in the fundraising world was like fundraising world was like fundraising world was like building a case for support right you building a case for support right you building a case for support right you know and so in the para church or the know and so in the para church or the know and so in the para church or the the non-profit or non-church non-profit the non-profit or non-church non-profit the non-profit or non-church non-profit world that's a that's a key term the world that's a that's a key term the world that's a that's a key term the case for support case for support case for support the case for why somebody should support the case for why somebody should support the case for why somebody should support your mission

your mission your mission and i think in churches we just we're and i think in churches we just we're and i think in churches we just we're not very good at that not very good at that not very good at that at all no and and it's almost like you at all no and and it's almost like you at all no and and it's almost like you feel like feel like feel like we can't because that feels like we can't because that feels like we can't because that feels like fundraising um fundraising um fundraising um and that's just silly like that's just and that's just silly like that's just and that's just silly like that's just silly silly silly like no that's a good business practice like no that's a good business practice like no that's a good business practice and we have to be good we should be the and we have to be good we should be the and we have to be good we should be the best business best business best business men and women that there are so don't be men and women that there are so don't be men and women that there are so don't be don't shy away from building your case don't shy away from building your case don't shy away from building your case for support you nailed it earlier you've for support you nailed it earlier you've for support you nailed it earlier you've got baptisms and salvations you've seen got baptisms and salvations you've seen got baptisms and salvations you've seen lives transformed and change and lives transformed and change and lives transformed and change and marriage is being saved and marriage is being saved and marriage is being saved and kids getting um delivered and you know kids getting um delivered and you know kids getting um delivered and you know sex trafficking being stopped and we sex trafficking being stopped and we sex trafficking being stopped and we have have have reasons to celebrate and continue to ask reasons to celebrate and continue to ask reasons to celebrate and continue to ask for support so that for support so that for support so that more of that can take place yeah that is more of that can take place yeah that is more of that can take place yeah that is the church's the church's the church's case for support correct and most case for support correct and most case for support correct and most churches go i churches go i churches go i don't ever really talk about that stuff don't ever really talk about that stuff don't ever really talk about that stuff you know right once a year you know right once a year you know right once a year not good enough because what are the not good enough because what are the not good enough because what are the other 51 weeks that you're doing other 51 weeks that you're doing other 51 weeks that you're doing you're not communicating that and on by you're not communicating that and on by you're not communicating that and on by and large in a virtual environment and large in a virtual environment and large in a virtual environment you are being now you're being you are being now you're being you are being now you're being infiltrated with people saying well i'm infiltrated with people saying well i'm infiltrated with people saying well i'm just really not being able to connect just really not being able to connect just really not being able to connect with my local church any longer with my local church any longer with my local church any longer so i'm going to go find a different so i'm going to go find a different so i'm going to go find a different church and we church and we church and we have to be able to have like this have to be able to have like this have to be able to have like this concept concept concept down we have to be business men and down we have to be business men and down we have to be business men and women minded women minded women minded with a christ heartbeat so with a christ heartbeat so with a christ heartbeat so you know think about all the business you know think about all the business you know think about all the business men and women that jesus pulled as his men and women that jesus pulled as his men and women that jesus pulled as his first disciples first disciples first disciples i think about matthew the tax collector

i think about matthew the tax collector i think about matthew the tax collector he managed money and then he saw jesus radically shift and then he saw jesus radically shift that view that view that view he was a businessman and then he had he he was a businessman and then he had he he was a businessman and then he had he was able to use it for the glory of the was able to use it for the glory of the was able to use it for the glory of the kingdom of heaven kingdom of heaven kingdom of heaven oh yeah he encountered jesus that's oh yeah he encountered jesus that's oh yeah he encountered jesus that's the name of the game wow well any any the name of the game wow well any any the name of the game wow well any any last thoughts last thoughts last thoughts um i i think the only last thought that um i i think the only last thought that um i i think the only last thought that i would say i would say i would say is that the the shift of the church for is that the the shift of the church for is that the the shift of the church for the next the next the next decade um is truly going to be the decade um is truly going to be the decade um is truly going to be the transfer of wealth that is happening in transfer of wealth that is happening in transfer of wealth that is happening in america right now and america right now and america right now and really across the whole globe and if we really across the whole globe and if we really across the whole globe and if we do do do not have a reason not have a reason not have a reason to be supported if we don't have a clear to be supported if we don't have a clear to be supported if we don't have a clear defined plan defined plan defined plan if we don't have transparency and if we don't have transparency and if we don't have transparency and authenticity if we don't know how to authenticity if we don't know how to authenticity if we don't know how to administer gifts or ask for gifts administer gifts or ask for gifts administer gifts or ask for gifts if we don't know how to um build if we don't know how to um build if we don't know how to um build these pieces out as a church and then these pieces out as a church and then these pieces out as a church and then communicate that communicate that communicate that well through all mediums then well through all mediums then well through all mediums then we will see that that by and large many we will see that that by and large many we will see that that by and large many church doors will shut and that would church doors will shut and that would church doors will shut and that would never be the heart of the kingdom of never be the heart of the kingdom of never be the heart of the kingdom of heaven and so we have an heaven and so we have an heaven and so we have an opportunity of a lifetime that we should opportunity of a lifetime that we should opportunity of a lifetime that we should take advantage of take advantage of take advantage of during the lifetime of the opportunity during the lifetime of the opportunity during the lifetime of the opportunity to start to to start to to start to to dig in on how to do these things to dig in on how to do these things to dig in on how to do these things well as a church so the church should be well as a church so the church should be well as a church so the church should be the church the church the church they should be the recipient of the they should be the recipient of the they should be the recipient of the gifts to do the ministry for the people

gifts to do the ministry for the people gifts to do the ministry for the people but you still have to have business but you still have to have business but you still have to have business practices to be able to practices to be able to practices to be able to to receive those things and have the to receive those things and have the to receive those things and have the gifts be transferred so that the gifts be transferred so that the gifts be transferred so that the ministry can take place ministry can take place ministry can take place and that's what mortar stone really and that's what mortar stone really and that's what mortar stone really wants to seek to help you to do wants to seek to help you to do wants to seek to help you to do the church is the hands and feet of the church is the hands and feet of the church is the hands and feet of jesus and mobilization jesus and mobilization jesus and mobilization and you're really good at doing that you and you're really good at doing that you and you're really good at doing that you need somebody to help you administer need somebody to help you administer need somebody to help you administer those gifts from the givers so that you those gifts from the givers so that you those gifts from the givers so that you can see more can see more can see more impact in your your church first impact in your your church first impact in your your church first your community second and then the world your community second and then the world your community second and then the world at which the lord is directing you at which the lord is directing you at which the lord is directing you towards well said in church i'm telling you you well said in church i'm telling you you gotta you don't wanna delay on this one gotta you don't wanna delay on this one gotta you don't wanna delay on this one you know every day that goes by you're you know every day that goes by you're you know every day that goes by you're you're already you're already behind you're already you're already behind you're already you're already behind right so if you not put your efforts right so if you not put your efforts right so if you not put your efforts into this and you know maybe you don't into this and you know maybe you don't into this and you know maybe you don't have a stewardship pastor have a stewardship pastor have a stewardship pastor you've got to to take this step and so i you've got to to take this step and so i you've got to to take this step and so i highly recommend you highly recommend you highly recommend you you connect with megan you connect the you connect with megan you connect the you connect with megan you connect the more responses megan thank you so much more responses megan thank you so much more responses megan thank you so much for your time and your for your time and your for your time and your insight extremely valuable appreciate insight extremely valuable appreciate insight extremely valuable appreciate thank you for letting me be a part of it thank you for letting me be a part of it thank you for letting me be a part of it today and bless all of you today and bless all of you today and bless all of you um and all the work that you put your um and all the work that you put your um and all the work that you put your hands to yeah hands to yeah hands to yeah yeah thanks so much all right take care yeah thanks so much all right take care yeah thanks so much all right take care bye-bye bye-bye bye-bye thanks again megan such great thanks again megan such great thanks again megan such great information information information now hey church if this now hey church if this now hey church if this isn't your area you don't oversee giving isn't your area you don't oversee giving isn't your area you don't oversee giving or you don't oversee or you don't oversee or you don't oversee stewardship or anything finance you know stewardship or anything finance you know stewardship or anything finance you know financial at your church that's okay financial at your church that's okay financial at your church that's okay pass this podcast on to those that do

pass this podcast on to those that do pass this podcast on to those that do they're going to learn about this and they're going to learn about this and they're going to learn about this and they're going to learn something new and they're going to learn something new and they're going to learn something new and and they're going to bear some fruit and they're going to bear some fruit and they're going to bear some fruit from this conversation that megan and i from this conversation that megan and i from this conversation that megan and i got to have and so i encourage you to do got to have and so i encourage you to do got to have and so i encourage you to do that second that second that second i encourage you to go check out mortar i encourage you to go check out mortar i encourage you to go check out mortar stone go to mortarstone.com stone go to mortarstone.com stone go to mortarstone.com um if anything take that free church um if anything take that free church um if anything take that free church health audit health audit health audit it's absolutely worth it and i guarantee it's absolutely worth it and i guarantee it's absolutely worth it and i guarantee when you do that you are going to learn when you do that you are going to learn when you do that you are going to learn a thing or two a thing or two a thing or two and your future of your church really and your future of your church really and your future of your church really depends depends depends on how you're going to pivot to become on how you're going to pivot to become on how you're going to pivot to become better better better at this thing called giving so until at this thing called giving so until at this thing called giving so until next time next time next time god bless god bless god bless [Music] [Music] [Music] you