My First 100 Days as an Online Pastor | Interview with Colby Engstrum

[Music] [Music] in today's podcast i'm talking with in today's podcast i'm talking with in today's podcast i'm talking with colby ingstrom colby ingstrom colby ingstrom colby is the online pastor for preston colby is the online pastor for preston colby is the online pastor for preston trail trail trail community church it's a large large community church it's a large large community church it's a large large church in the dallas fort worth area church in the dallas fort worth area church in the dallas fort worth area they've got two campuses uh before kovid they've got two campuses uh before kovid they've got two campuses uh before kovid running over 5000 people on a weekend running over 5000 people on a weekend running over 5000 people on a weekend and they're doing some amazing things and they're doing some amazing things and they're doing some amazing things now colby just stepped into this role now colby just stepped into this role now colby just stepped into this role as the online campus but he's not new to as the online campus but he's not new to as the online campus but he's not new to the church he's not new to ministry he's the church he's not new to ministry he's the church he's not new to ministry he's been in ministry for over 20 years been in ministry for over 20 years been in ministry for over 20 years and he has a lot of great things and and he has a lot of great things and and he has a lot of great things and energy and energy and energy and excitement that he's bringing to this excitement that he's bringing to this excitement that he's bringing to this new position as the online pastor new position as the online pastor new position as the online pastor i'm excited to hear from colby i hope i'm excited to hear from colby i hope i'm excited to hear from colby i hope you are too check it out you are too check it out you are too check it out well hey i'm here with colby colby great well hey i'm here with colby colby great well hey i'm here with colby colby great to have you on today to have you on today to have you on today thanks for joining us thanks a lot for thanks for joining us thanks a lot for thanks for joining us thanks a lot for having me jason i'm excited having me jason i'm excited having me jason i'm excited yeah yeah so let's uh let's dive right yeah yeah so let's uh let's dive right yeah yeah so let's uh let's dive right in so you uh you come out of the in so you uh you come out of the in so you uh you come out of the the family uh marriage and now you're the family uh marriage and now you're the family uh marriage and now you're you're the online pastor right explain a you're the online pastor right explain a you're the online pastor right explain a little bit about the church and a little little bit about the church and a little little bit about the church and a little bit about your history on staff bit about your history on staff bit about your history on staff yeah yeah so um i moved out here five yeah yeah so um i moved out here five yeah yeah so um i moved out here five years ago from southern california years ago from southern california years ago from southern california and uh i've been involved in student and uh i've been involved in student and uh i've been involved in student ministry and been the next and been a ministry and been the next and been a ministry and been the next and been a next-gen pastor here next-gen pastor here next-gen pastor here and so um i love kids i love students and so um i love kids i love students and so um i love kids i love students i've ministered to kids students young i've ministered to kids students young i've ministered to kids students young adults for most of my adult life adults for most of my adult life adults for most of my adult life and just recently in september i made and just recently in september i made and just recently in september i made the transition to becoming our church's the transition to becoming our church's the transition to becoming our church's very first online pastor very first online pastor very first online pastor wow okay so you've been in that for a wow okay so you've been in that for a wow okay so you've been in that for a few months few months few months uh-huh yeah literally since september uh-huh yeah literally since september uh-huh yeah literally since september and then oh and then you went into the

and then oh and then you went into the and then oh and then you went into the history of preston trail so yeah listen history of preston trail so yeah listen history of preston trail so yeah listen trail has been around trail has been around trail has been around for almost 20 years now okay uh the for almost 20 years now okay uh the for almost 20 years now okay uh the unique thing about preston trail is the unique thing about preston trail is the unique thing about preston trail is the fact that it was started fact that it was started fact that it was started by two pastors together who are really by two pastors together who are really by two pastors together who are really good friends who good friends who good friends who whose history went all the way back to whose history went all the way back to whose history went all the way back to bible college and they wanted to bible college and they wanted to bible college and they wanted to start a church that was a church they start a church that was a church they start a church that was a church they could be proud of that connects with could be proud of that connects with could be proud of that connects with people people people and really helps helps young families and really helps helps young families and really helps helps young families and they moved into north texas when it and they moved into north texas when it and they moved into north texas when it was was was just at the ground level of growing and just at the ground level of growing and just at the ground level of growing and so we actually have us have a unique so we actually have us have a unique so we actually have us have a unique model model model we have two humble fully committed we have two humble fully committed we have two humble fully committed co-senior pastors who alternate co-senior pastors who alternate co-senior pastors who alternate messages and make decisions together and messages and make decisions together and messages and make decisions together and so one of the unique things about press so one of the unique things about press so one of the unique things about press central culture is there's kind of an central culture is there's kind of an central culture is there's kind of an authenticity and a humility and a authenticity and a humility and a authenticity and a humility and a camaraderie here camaraderie here camaraderie here that kind of just permeates through the that kind of just permeates through the that kind of just permeates through the whole culture and it's kind of exciting whole culture and it's kind of exciting whole culture and it's kind of exciting to be part of to be part of to be part of um the people that come here really like um the people that come here really like um the people that come here really like being here and it affects being here and it affects being here and it affects it affects the way we communicate and it affects the way we communicate and it affects the way we communicate and interact and you know it's a place where interact and you know it's a place where interact and you know it's a place where everybody can come in whether they feel everybody can come in whether they feel everybody can come in whether they feel like they're perfect or imperfect or like they're perfect or imperfect or like they're perfect or imperfect or they've been churched or unchurched or they've been churched or unchurched or they've been churched or unchurched or de-churched and it's kind of a fun place de-churched and it's kind of a fun place de-churched and it's kind of a fun place to be to be to be it really is and even in the midst of it really is and even in the midst of it really is and even in the midst of the pandemic i i think i think we've the pandemic i i think i think we've the pandemic i i think i think we've we've felt that a lot of people have we've felt that a lot of people have we've felt that a lot of people have still responded to that still responded to that still responded to that yeah yeah you guys are killing it way to yeah yeah you guys are killing it way to yeah yeah you guys are killing it way to go yeah go yeah go yeah so so take me back what prompted the so so take me back what prompted the so so take me back what prompted the leadership to say you know what leadership to say you know what leadership to say you know what yeah we need an online pastor colby's yeah we need an online pastor colby's yeah we need an online pastor colby's our guy like how did that all happen our guy like how did that all happen our guy like how did that all happen and sure sure well um it's like anything and sure sure well um it's like anything and sure sure well um it's like anything else you know there's else you know there's else you know there's there's different layers to the story there's different layers to the story there's different layers to the story right and so um right and so um right and so um for my side of the fence i i had been for my side of the fence i i had been for my side of the fence i i had been i've been kind of kind of feeling some

i've been kind of kind of feeling some i've been kind of kind of feeling some stirrings stirrings stirrings uh my youngest my youngest son was about uh my youngest my youngest son was about uh my youngest my youngest son was about to start his senior year to start his senior year to start his senior year and i kind of felt for a number of years and i kind of felt for a number of years and i kind of felt for a number of years like you know what i've been doing like you know what i've been doing like you know what i've been doing student history for a long time student history for a long time student history for a long time and i kind of feel like probably around and i kind of feel like probably around and i kind of feel like probably around the time that my son's out i kind of the time that my son's out i kind of the time that my son's out i kind of feel like it's probably my feel like it's probably my feel like it's probably my time to step out of student ministry time to step out of student ministry time to step out of student ministry it's not that i don't love students it's not that i don't love students it's not that i don't love students but you know there's a lot of good young but you know there's a lot of good young but you know there's a lot of good young dudes and ladies that are coming up and dudes and ladies that are coming up and dudes and ladies that are coming up and coming into ministry coming into ministry coming into ministry and i kind of felt like my timing was and i kind of felt like my timing was and i kind of felt like my timing was coming but it wasn't was kind of unsure coming but it wasn't was kind of unsure coming but it wasn't was kind of unsure what that would be or whether or not it what that would be or whether or not it what that would be or whether or not it would be here so that's going on in me would be here so that's going on in me would be here so that's going on in me and my heart and my heart and my heart at this time over the course of the last at this time over the course of the last at this time over the course of the last six months to a year and then in the six months to a year and then in the six months to a year and then in the meantime meantime meantime you know our our church like a lot of you know our our church like a lot of you know our our church like a lot of other churches you know we've done other churches you know we've done other churches you know we've done we've done we've done a live stream of we've done we've done a live stream of we've done we've done a live stream of different services we've different services we've different services we've we've put on demand services up after we've put on demand services up after we've put on demand services up after we've got done we've got done we've got done and experimented with what that looks and experimented with what that looks and experimented with what that looks like and put things up on a podcast like and put things up on a podcast like and put things up on a podcast and different things like that but of and different things like that but of and different things like that but of course the pandemic has kind of course the pandemic has kind of course the pandemic has kind of accentuated accentuated accentuated a lot of things you know i mean i think a lot of things you know i mean i think a lot of things you know i mean i think was kerry newhop that said you know that was kerry newhop that said you know that was kerry newhop that said you know that that the cracks become more come wider that the cracks become more come wider that the cracks become more come wider and bigger and bigger and bigger when something when something big comes when something when something big comes when something when something big comes right and so that's what happened with right and so that's what happened with right and so that's what happened with us you know we we've kind of we've known us you know we we've kind of we've known us you know we we've kind of we've known with being a multi-side church with being a multi-side church with being a multi-side church especially that we needed to expand the especially that we needed to expand the especially that we needed to expand the way we did things way we did things way we did things but but it was kind of we kind of but but it was kind of we kind of but but it was kind of we kind of clicked boxes with clicked boxes with clicked boxes with well this seems to fit helping people well this seems to fit helping people well this seems to fit helping people through the computer through the computer through the computer if they're traveling or they're finding if they're traveling or they're finding if they're traveling or they're finding us but it wasn't an intentional strategy us but it wasn't an intentional strategy us but it wasn't an intentional strategy then when the pandemic came we kind of then when the pandemic came we kind of then when the pandemic came we kind of kind of went kind of went kind of went all right now we need to have an all right now we need to have an all right now we need to have an intentional strategy and strategic care intentional strategy and strategic care intentional strategy and strategic care for what that is and um and our for what that is and um and our for what that is and um and our leadership you know they did they

leadership you know they did they leadership you know they did they they did research and try to learn from they did research and try to learn from they did research and try to learn from other people they other people they other people they luckily for me because i'm not super luckily for me because i'm not super luckily for me because i'm not super techy they wanted to find somebody who techy they wanted to find somebody who techy they wanted to find somebody who just really loved people and was just really loved people and was just really loved people and was comfortable in front of a camera and comfortable in front of a camera and comfortable in front of a camera and was comfortable with just connecting was comfortable with just connecting was comfortable with just connecting people and trying to people and trying to people and trying to engage people whether it's through a engage people whether it's through a engage people whether it's through a screen or a person and screen or a person and screen or a person and we just both felt like this was of the we just both felt like this was of the we just both felt like this was of the lord and here i am lord and here i am lord and here i am okay that's that's awesome thanks for okay that's that's awesome thanks for okay that's that's awesome thanks for sharing that so what does that strategy sharing that so what does that strategy sharing that so what does that strategy look like look like look like yeah yeah well we're still if i'm real yeah yeah well we're still if i'm real yeah yeah well we're still if i'm real we're still kind of figuring that out we're still kind of figuring that out we're still kind of figuring that out you know that's that's the that's that's you know that's that's the that's that's you know that's that's the that's that's the short answer the short answer the short answer um but if i were to kind of sum it up um but if i were to kind of sum it up um but if i were to kind of sum it up into a couple of statements it's that into a couple of statements it's that into a couple of statements it's that we really genuinely care about helping we really genuinely care about helping we really genuinely care about helping people grow people grow people grow as followers of jesus you know we want as followers of jesus you know we want as followers of jesus you know we want to help people find jesus first and then to help people find jesus first and then to help people find jesus first and then follow them for themselves follow them for themselves follow them for themselves whether it's through a screen or in whether it's through a screen or in whether it's through a screen or in person i mean then so person i mean then so person i mean then so there are some people that are saying there are some people that are saying there are some people that are saying well you know when things go back to well you know when things go back to well you know when things go back to normal are you going to go back to this normal are you going to go back to this normal are you going to go back to this or back to that i was like well or back to that i was like well or back to that i was like well no i think we're kind of taken from the no i think we're kind of taken from the no i think we're kind of taken from the kreger shell model which is we're kreger shell model which is we're kreger shell model which is we're putting all our eggs in both baskets putting all our eggs in both baskets putting all our eggs in both baskets because we feel like as people are because we feel like as people are because we feel like as people are becoming more becoming more becoming more um i don't know just church culture is um i don't know just church culture is um i don't know just church culture is changing people are coming in person changing people are coming in person changing people are coming in person less often less often less often people are are are curious and are people are are are curious and are people are are are curious and are exploring a website or an online service exploring a website or an online service exploring a website or an online service before they're ever darkening a door before they're ever darkening a door before they're ever darkening a door and i think that's true now more than and i think that's true now more than and i think that's true now more than ever and so we're trying to figure out ever and so we're trying to figure out ever and so we're trying to figure out what does that now look like and so what does that now look like and so what does that now look like and so we're going to have we're going to have we're going to have our strategy is going to be we're still our strategy is going to be we're still our strategy is going to be we're still building our outward-facing model but we building our outward-facing model but we building our outward-facing model but we want to have things that are want to have things that are want to have things that are out into the community that are out into the community that are out into the community that are answering questions people have answering questions people have answering questions people have our our meeting felt needs and are our our meeting felt needs and are our our meeting felt needs and are scratching itches that people have that

scratching itches that people have that scratching itches that people have that might not be ones that we think with might not be ones that we think with might not be ones that we think with just slapping a sermon series at it is just slapping a sermon series at it is just slapping a sermon series at it is gonna do gonna do gonna do and so getting shorter getting more and so getting shorter getting more and so getting shorter getting more concise getting easier to use on concise getting easier to use on concise getting easier to use on different platforms different platforms different platforms and then of course making our online and then of course making our online and then of course making our online platforms um platforms um platforms um more entitled easier to use easier to more entitled easier to use easier to more entitled easier to use easier to find and more engaging find and more engaging find and more engaging and that and and that's that's where and that and and that's that's where and that and and that's that's where i've been kind of incubating my team and i've been kind of incubating my team and i've been kind of incubating my team and spending a lot of my focus right now is spending a lot of my focus right now is spending a lot of my focus right now is getting used to getting used to getting used to uh our online platform and then doing uh our online platform and then doing uh our online platform and then doing good follow-up with people good follow-up with people good follow-up with people that come and join us and then even that come and join us and then even that come and join us and then even engaging while they're with us engaging while they're with us engaging while they're with us so so would so would your audience then so so would so would your audience then so so would so would your audience then would you say your audience is probably would you say your audience is probably would you say your audience is probably uh maybe twofold it's obviously people uh maybe twofold it's obviously people uh maybe twofold it's obviously people who who who go to preston trail like yep i got a go to preston trail like yep i got a go to preston trail like yep i got a question you know it's they don't question you know it's they don't question you know it's they don't sure you know they just want to connect sure you know they just want to connect sure you know they just want to connect with somebody you're the man online with somebody you're the man online with somebody you're the man online right right right yeah so there's a discipline that yeah so there's a discipline that yeah so there's a discipline that happens in that space and all kinds of happens in that space and all kinds of happens in that space and all kinds of stuff stuff stuff well then there's yeah so that's just the place where there's so that's just the place where there's like steps that are involved right so like steps that are involved right so like steps that are involved right so they're they're they're contacting us they're they're they're contacting us they're they're they're contacting us for a service or they're for a service or they're for a service or they're they've come in and joined us for part they've come in and joined us for part they've come in and joined us for part of the service and have been able to of the service and have been able to of the service and have been able to gain some kind of rapport they've gain some kind of rapport they've gain some kind of rapport they've learned my name learned my name learned my name so i get an email i get an email from so i get an email i get an email from so i get an email i get an email from him or i build some kind of a report him or i build some kind of a report him or i build some kind of a report that way that way that way and so it becomes in steps you know and and so it becomes in steps you know and and so it becomes in steps you know and honestly you know i was talking with our honestly you know i was talking with our honestly you know i was talking with our with our group's pastor and he helped me with our group's pastor and he helped me with our group's pastor and he helped me with better language he said that when with better language he said that when with better language he said that when it comes to online ministry maybe we it comes to online ministry maybe we it comes to online ministry maybe we need to be thinking in half steps need to be thinking in half steps need to be thinking in half steps because these are people that are maybe because these are people that are maybe because these are people that are maybe even further away and we need to be even further away and we need to be even further away and we need to be thinking about half steps because they thinking about half steps because they thinking about half steps because they haven't even haven't even haven't even even decided to be a person yet and so even decided to be a person yet and so even decided to be a person yet and so and so that's what we're trying to and so that's what we're trying to and so that's what we're trying to figure out and figure out and figure out and and we're in the process of developing

and we're in the process of developing and we're in the process of developing video modules that we can be able to video modules that we can be able to video modules that we can be able to to make available to people so because to make available to people so because to make available to people so because that's the thing i mean i got an email that's the thing i mean i got an email that's the thing i mean i got an email literally yesterday it's like hey you literally yesterday it's like hey you literally yesterday it's like hey you know i've been i've been attending know i've been i've been attending know i've been i've been attending online now for a few months online now for a few months online now for a few months i want to grow in my relationship with i want to grow in my relationship with i want to grow in my relationship with jesus what do i do i'm like jesus what do i do i'm like jesus what do i do i'm like great question that's awesome great question that's awesome great question that's awesome i got an answer yeah and so that so so i got an answer yeah and so that so so i got an answer yeah and so that so so we're starting them on that pathway of we're starting them on that pathway of we're starting them on that pathway of what that looks like and it's going to what that looks like and it's going to what that looks like and it's going to be be be ideally we would like to see people be ideally we would like to see people be ideally we would like to see people be able to meet in pers in person able to meet in pers in person able to meet in pers in person um whether whether it's where it's where um whether whether it's where it's where um whether whether it's where it's where they're living if we can figure out a they're living if we can figure out a they're living if we can figure out a way to kind of cluster people together way to kind of cluster people together way to kind of cluster people together whether it's that they live 50 miles whether it's that they live 50 miles whether it's that they live 50 miles away or 500 miles away we want to try to away or 500 miles away we want to try to away or 500 miles away we want to try to figure that out figure that out figure that out down the road but for right now honestly down the road but for right now honestly down the road but for right now honestly jason we're just trying to figure out jason we're just trying to figure out jason we're just trying to figure out how do we how do we how do we how do we minister to the people coming how do we minister to the people coming how do we minister to the people coming online well and incubating that team online well and incubating that team online well and incubating that team and then and then figuring out these and then and then figuring out these and then and then figuring out these other different platforms that we have other different platforms that we have other different platforms that we have that we're developing at the same time that we're developing at the same time that we're developing at the same time gotcha yeah that was my going to be my gotcha yeah that was my going to be my gotcha yeah that was my going to be my follow-up was what about those people follow-up was what about those people follow-up was what about those people that are that are that are you know past the driving distance and you know past the driving distance and you know past the driving distance and it sounds like you're it sounds like you're it sounds like you're you're still trying to build the model you're still trying to build the model you're still trying to build the model like we want to just we want to answer like we want to just we want to answer like we want to just we want to answer their questions reach them connect with their questions reach them connect with their questions reach them connect with them them them build relationship disciple them but you build relationship disciple them but you build relationship disciple them but you know know know it's physically impossible for them to it's physically impossible for them to it's physically impossible for them to get to right get to right get to right activities on on campus yeah and as and activities on on campus yeah and as and activities on on campus yeah and as and and i've been trying to learn from and i've been trying to learn from and i've been trying to learn from different people that's one of the different people that's one of the different people that's one of the things that jay crandall told me at things that jay crandall told me at things that jay crandall told me at saddleback is he said you know saddleback is he said you know saddleback is he said you know focus focus on the proximity around focus focus on the proximity around focus focus on the proximity around where you are and do that really well where you are and do that really well where you are and do that really well and then look to expand your circles man and then look to expand your circles man and then look to expand your circles man i just got such wisdom i just got such wisdom i just got such wisdom and um and he's been doing it well he's and um and he's been doing it well he's and um and he's been doing it well he's been doing it for a lot longer than me

been doing it for a lot longer than me been doing it for a lot longer than me so so i'm gonna listen to him but i mean so so i'm gonna listen to him but i mean so so i'm gonna listen to him but i mean we have individuals that'll pipe in from we have individuals that'll pipe in from we have individuals that'll pipe in from all over the place but all over the place but all over the place but eventually we want to get to the point eventually we want to get to the point eventually we want to get to the point where we can look at the analytics and where we can look at the analytics and where we can look at the analytics and see what the saturation points are see what the saturation points are see what the saturation points are and see how we can get people together and see how we can get people together and see how we can get people together and how we can do that and how we can do that and how we can do that and and we don't know whether i mean and and we don't know whether i mean and and we don't know whether i mean does that become a microchurch model does that become a microchurch model does that become a microchurch model does that become the new way that we does that become the new way that we does that become the new way that we launch new campuses i mean our brains launch new campuses i mean our brains launch new campuses i mean our brains are going crazy with all this because are going crazy with all this because are going crazy with all this because it's so new and so fresh to us it's so new and so fresh to us it's so new and so fresh to us right yeah but that is such solid advice right yeah but that is such solid advice right yeah but that is such solid advice to say you know start with what you can to say you know start with what you can to say you know start with what you can control around your area control around your area control around your area yeah get that down and then start yeah get that down and then start yeah get that down and then start growing beyond that that's really good growing beyond that that's really good growing beyond that that's really good advice advice advice so um sounds like so um sounds like so um sounds like so sounds like some of the challenges so sounds like some of the challenges so sounds like some of the challenges for you are just kind of for you are just kind of for you are just kind of first of all just you're just absorbing first of all just you're just absorbing first of all just you're just absorbing and learning and and learning and and learning and drinking through fire hose but you're drinking through fire hose but you're drinking through fire hose but you're you know have you had any you know have you had any you know have you had any uh like some early wins from uh like some early wins from uh like some early wins from your few months of being in this space your few months of being in this space your few months of being in this space definitely definitely definitely um you know there's there's one example um you know there's there's one example um you know there's there's one example that immediately comes to mind that immediately comes to mind that immediately comes to mind that i that i think is is a stronger that i that i think is is a stronger that i that i think is is a stronger advantage in online ministry than i had advantage in online ministry than i had advantage in online ministry than i had anticipated anticipated anticipated it's a right at the end of a service you it's a right at the end of a service you it's a right at the end of a service you know and we um know and we um know and we um we're so thankful for life church giving we're so thankful for life church giving we're so thankful for life church giving us the church online platform that's us the church online platform that's us the church online platform that's been amazingly helpful been amazingly helpful been amazingly helpful but there's a way that we can solicit but there's a way that we can solicit but there's a way that we can solicit responses to people one of those was responses to people one of those was responses to people one of those was asking if people want prayer and so asking if people want prayer and so asking if people want prayer and so literally literally literally right as the service is ending i get one right as the service is ending i get one right as the service is ending i get one from from a dude from from a dude from from a dude who basically just tells me my marriage

who basically just tells me my marriage who basically just tells me my marriage is on the rocks i haven't been in church is on the rocks i haven't been in church is on the rocks i haven't been in church in forever in forever in forever i don't i i really don't know what i'm i don't i i really don't know what i'm i don't i i really don't know what i'm gonna do right now i just i gonna do right now i just i gonna do right now i just i just need prayer i need i need to just need prayer i need i need to just need prayer i need i need to connect with somebody and like connect with somebody and like connect with somebody and like and i'll be real jason in today's and i'll be real jason in today's and i'll be real jason in today's culture i don't know that a grown dude culture i don't know that a grown dude culture i don't know that a grown dude is gonna do that is gonna do that is gonna do that in person inside a church building in in person inside a church building in in person inside a church building in today's world today's world today's world i don't know if they are not not if not i don't know if they are not not if not i don't know if they are not not if not not in our church i don't think they are not in our church i don't think they are not in our church i don't think they are but there was something about feeling but there was something about feeling but there was something about feeling comfortable behind a screen comfortable behind a screen comfortable behind a screen in the privacy of their home in a in the privacy of their home in a in the privacy of their home in a private conversation like that private conversation like that private conversation like that that he was able to get very real you that he was able to get very real you that he was able to get very real you know and i've been able to since follow know and i've been able to since follow know and i've been able to since follow up with him a couple times check in on up with him a couple times check in on up with him a couple times check in on him encourage him him encourage him him encourage him and build that relationship and kind of and build that relationship and kind of and build that relationship and kind of shepherd him a little bit shepherd him a little bit shepherd him a little bit um it's just super cool you know because um it's just super cool you know because um it's just super cool you know because that's that's one of the things that that's that's one of the things that that's that's one of the things that that i think we need to be aware of is that i think we need to be aware of is that i think we need to be aware of is this gonna allow us to minister to this gonna allow us to minister to this gonna allow us to minister to people that might not be open people that might not be open people that might not be open to having different kind of engagements to having different kind of engagements to having different kind of engagements in person but when it comes up through in person but when it comes up through in person but when it comes up through screen it's just a little more screen it's just a little more screen it's just a little more comfortable comfortable comfortable yeah wow that i love hearing those yeah wow that i love hearing those yeah wow that i love hearing those stories stories stories yeah me too that's awesome we'll pray yeah me too that's awesome we'll pray yeah me too that's awesome we'll pray for more of those for more of those for more of those and yeah and just these platforms to and yeah and just these platforms to and yeah and just these platforms to and because there's a ton of people like and because there's a ton of people like and because there's a ton of people like that guy out there right that guy out there right that guy out there right they're all and they're not i mean thank they're all and they're not i mean thank they're all and they're not i mean thank goodness he goodness he goodness he checked you out but they're they're not checked you out but they're they're not checked you out but they're they're not really looking for church but they still really looking for church but they still really looking for church but they still got this felt need they're still got this felt need they're still got this felt need they're still looking for help right and you guys uh looking for help right and you guys uh looking for help right and you guys uh are are are are perfectly positioned to be able to are perfectly positioned to be able to are perfectly positioned to be able to serve that need and help them serve that need and help them serve that need and help them along the way so so along the way so so along the way so so um in thinking about the you know the um in thinking about the you know the um in thinking about the you know the future of online church now you guys are

future of online church now you guys are future of online church now you guys are in in in in dallas fort worth areas obviously in dallas fort worth areas obviously in dallas fort worth areas obviously there's like it's like walgreens there's there's like it's like walgreens there's there's like it's like walgreens there's a mega church on every corner a mega church on every corner a mega church on every corner how do you do this really effectively how do you do this really effectively how do you do this really effectively knowing that you've got is it just knowing that you've got is it just knowing that you've got is it just because there's so many people that because there's so many people that because there's so many people that you're like yeah we're all in with this you're like yeah we're all in with this you're like yeah we're all in with this or or or do you really um you really look to to do you really um you really look to to do you really um you really look to to be able to grow be able to grow be able to grow this online thing to grow in person this online thing to grow in person this online thing to grow in person right you know this right you know this right you know this this is how i'm looking at because if this is how i'm looking at because if this is how i'm looking at because if i'm real jason when i first got into it i'm real jason when i first got into it i'm real jason when i first got into it i got a little discouraged by that i got a little discouraged by that i got a little discouraged by that because all of a sudden i'm like oh because all of a sudden i'm like oh because all of a sudden i'm like oh great so now we're competing with steven great so now we're competing with steven great so now we're competing with steven furtick and craig rochelle furtick and craig rochelle furtick and craig rochelle and you know and judith smith and you and you know and judith smith and you and you know and judith smith and you know all these guys that i super admire know all these guys that i super admire know all these guys that i super admire and just charismatic and just charismatic and just charismatic awesome cool looking communicators and awesome cool looking communicators and awesome cool looking communicators and they're very established online they're very established online they're very established online presences presences presences but i think that if you view church as a but i think that if you view church as a but i think that if you view church as a product it's really easy to be product it's really easy to be product it's really easy to be overwhelmed by it overwhelmed by it overwhelmed by it if you view church as a means of if you view church as a means of if you view church as a means of connection connection connection community and and connecting people community and and connecting people community and and connecting people christ i think everything changes yeah christ i think everything changes yeah christ i think everything changes yeah because that's personal that's highly because that's personal that's highly because that's personal that's highly personal and so personal and so personal and so i'm trying not to i'm trying not to get i'm trying not to i'm trying not to get i'm trying not to i'm trying not to get wrapped up in the numbers of it i'm wrapped up in the numbers of it i'm wrapped up in the numbers of it i'm trying to just be faithful with the trying to just be faithful with the trying to just be faithful with the people god's bringing right now and people god's bringing right now and people god's bringing right now and seeing where that goes seeing where that goes seeing where that goes um the other thing that i'm really um the other thing that i'm really um the other thing that i'm really passionate about with this is trying to passionate about with this is trying to passionate about with this is trying to raise up our people raise up our people raise up our people to be really authentic with the way they to be really authentic with the way they to be really authentic with the way they engage people engage people engage people through their online presence i got to through their online presence i got to through their online presence i got to teach on our intermediate service a teach on our intermediate service a teach on our intermediate service a couple weeks ago couple weeks ago couple weeks ago and that was the big crux of my message and that was the big crux of my message and that was the big crux of my message was that you are made in god's image for was that you are made in god's image for was that you are made in god's image for a reason and you need to wear it well a reason and you need to wear it well a reason and you need to wear it well digitally and physically

digitally and physically digitally and physically and when we do that we get to show and when we do that we get to show and when we do that we get to show people who jesus is people who jesus is people who jesus is and that's that's the new that that's and that's that's the new that that's and that's that's the new that that's the new millennium the new millennium the new millennium new normal for us is if we can do that new normal for us is if we can do that new normal for us is if we can do that with our people well with our people well with our people well they're the ones that are going to be they're the ones that are going to be they're the ones that are going to be bring people into bring people into bring people into personal community and i think personal personal community and i think personal personal community and i think personal community and growth and discipleship is community and growth and discipleship is community and growth and discipleship is to grow to grow to grow is the goal i don't think it's thousands is the goal i don't think it's thousands is the goal i don't think it's thousands of of of views or thousands of this i'd heard views or thousands of this i'd heard views or thousands of this i'd heard somebody liking that somebody liking that somebody liking that uh 1500 views to counting people who uh 1500 views to counting people who uh 1500 views to counting people who drive by your church building drive by your church building drive by your church building as attendants for your church service as attendants for your church service as attendants for your church service that weekend that weekend that weekend and i'm like yeah i kind of like that and i'm like yeah i kind of like that and i'm like yeah i kind of like that that helps encourage me that helps encourage me that helps encourage me yeah you know that thanks for that yeah you know that thanks for that yeah you know that thanks for that answer because i think that should be answer because i think that should be answer because i think that should be encouraging for all the churches that encouraging for all the churches that encouraging for all the churches that are listening because it doesn't matter are listening because it doesn't matter are listening because it doesn't matter if you're a church of 50 if you're a church of 50 if you're a church of 50 500 5 000 or thousand exactly right this 500 5 000 or thousand exactly right this 500 5 000 or thousand exactly right this is the level playing field is the level playing field is the level playing field right right and it and all you gotta do right right and it and all you gotta do right right and it and all you gotta do is put some effort into it is put some effort into it is put some effort into it um and absorb and learn and trial and um and absorb and learn and trial and um and absorb and learn and trial and error because you're gonna fail error because you're gonna fail error because you're gonna fail totally but hey you're gonna you're totally but hey you're gonna you're totally but hey you're gonna you're gonna have some of those wins because gonna have some of those wins because gonna have some of those wins because god's good and if the goals discipleship god's good and if the goals discipleship god's good and if the goals discipleship and community and community and community the local the local church has that the local the local church has that the local the local church has that advantage advantage advantage because as bad as it sounds it's gonna because as bad as it sounds it's gonna because as bad as it sounds it's gonna be harder for them to connect with a be harder for them to connect with a be harder for them to connect with a baggage church baggage church baggage church that's a thousand miles away they're that's a thousand miles away they're that's a thousand miles away they're going to connect with the church they going to connect with the church they going to connect with the church they have a relationship with that's in their have a relationship with that's in their have a relationship with that's in their town town town and so that's the thing and if anybody's and so that's the thing and if anybody's and so that's the thing and if anybody's listening that's from a church it's listening that's from a church it's listening that's from a church it's under 200 just going under 200 just going under 200 just going oh my goodness there's no way we can oh my goodness there's no way we can oh my goodness there's no way we can compete well we need to not use that compete well we need to not use that compete well we need to not use that language it's not about competing language it's not about competing language it's not about competing it's about cooperating with what god's

it's about cooperating with what god's it's about cooperating with what god's doing with the tools he's given us right doing with the tools he's given us right doing with the tools he's given us right now now now to help people build relationship and if to help people build relationship and if to help people build relationship and if he all of us are faithful in our cities he all of us are faithful in our cities he all of us are faithful in our cities to do that to do that to do that that's that's when this thing blows up that's that's when this thing blows up that's that's when this thing blows up in a healthy way absolutely yeah yeah in a healthy way absolutely yeah yeah in a healthy way absolutely yeah yeah we're all on the same team here people we're all on the same team here people we're all on the same team here people right right right let's remember that a little bit okay so let's remember that a little bit okay so let's remember that a little bit okay so you you you you're like neat you know just deep into you're like neat you know just deep into you're like neat you know just deep into stuff right you've been you've been stuff right you've been you've been stuff right you've been you've been learning it sounds like you've been learning it sounds like you've been learning it sounds like you've been uh just trial and erroring things where uh just trial and erroring things where uh just trial and erroring things where have you what's been the best resource have you what's been the best resource have you what's been the best resource you've gone to you've gone to you've gone to to learn right what to do uh who you've to learn right what to do uh who you've to learn right what to do uh who you've been talking to been talking to been talking to share with us yep this knowledge that share with us yep this knowledge that share with us yep this knowledge that you got sure you got sure you got sure you know um you know stadia has done you know um you know stadia has done you know um you know stadia has done some cool stuff i was part of a some cool stuff i was part of a some cool stuff i was part of a i was i was part of like a like a i i was i was part of like a like a i i was i was part of like a like a i don't know it's almost like a don't know it's almost like a don't know it's almost like a i came in i came into it after our i came in i came into it after our i came in i came into it after our church had already signed up for it so church had already signed up for it so church had already signed up for it so it was almost like a it's almost like a it was almost like a it's almost like a it was almost like a it's almost like a boot camp for boot camp for boot camp for people to be in physical and digital people to be in physical and digital people to be in physical and digital world they called it digital world they called it digital world they called it digital that was super encouraging and helpful that was super encouraging and helpful that was super encouraging and helpful um i talked with the dude um i talked with the dude um i talked with the dude at cross cross point at cross cross point at cross cross point in just outside of nashville and he in just outside of nashville and he in just outside of nashville and he he was the online pastor there was super he was the online pastor there was super he was the online pastor there was super helpful um i talked with another helpful um i talked with another helpful um i talked with another i've talked with jay crandover at i've talked with jay crandover at i've talked with jay crandover at saddleback he was really helpful saddleback he was really helpful saddleback he was really helpful um and then i haven't talked with um and then i haven't talked with um and then i haven't talked with anybody yet from life church anybody yet from life church anybody yet from life church based out of oklahoma but i mean they based out of oklahoma but i mean they based out of oklahoma but i mean they are just so are just so are just so so uh generous with their materials so uh generous with their materials so uh generous with their materials so i mean i i've watched several things so i mean i i've watched several things so i mean i i've watched several things they've put on youtube they've put on youtube they've put on youtube to help out with online ministry i've to help out with online ministry i've to help out with online ministry i've watched their stuff on facebook watched their stuff on facebook watched their stuff on facebook they have materials and resources that

they have materials and resources that they have materials and resources that they've just been very kind about they've just been very kind about they've just been very kind about sharing with people sharing with people sharing with people there is there's just so many great there is there's just so many great there is there's just so many great things tony morgan's put out some great things tony morgan's put out some great things tony morgan's put out some great things things things um in fact right now he's putting out a um in fact right now he's putting out a um in fact right now he's putting out a series of podcasts about what it means series of podcasts about what it means series of podcasts about what it means to be a disciple to be a disciple to be a disciple um online and that's been super helpful um online and that's been super helpful um online and that's been super helpful as i'm trying to figure out as i'm trying to figure out as i'm trying to figure out how do i shepherd people in half steps how do i shepherd people in half steps how do i shepherd people in half steps from point a to from point a to from point a to their next step on their journey um their next step on their journey um their next step on their journey um that's been super super helpful that's been super super helpful that's been super super helpful um yeah i mean there's just there's a um yeah i mean there's just there's a um yeah i mean there's just there's a lot of lot of lot of there's just so much out there right now there's just so much out there right now there's just so much out there right now carrie knew off is i don't know i feel carrie knew off is i don't know i feel carrie knew off is i don't know i feel like that i feel like that guy like that i feel like that guy like that i feel like that guy just accidentally breathes out genius at just accidentally breathes out genius at just accidentally breathes out genius at times with how the church can be times with how the church can be times with how the church can be relevant relevant relevant in an online platform right now and so in an online platform right now and so in an online platform right now and so i'm inhaling a lot of what he is i'm inhaling a lot of what he is i'm inhaling a lot of what he is he is saying on church pulse and then he is saying on church pulse and then he is saying on church pulse and then his own leadership podcast too his own leadership podcast too his own leadership podcast too well it's got to be also really well it's got to be also really well it's got to be also really encouraging for you to know that you've encouraging for you to know that you've encouraging for you to know that you've got the got the got the full support of your leadership team 100 full support of your leadership team 100 full support of your leadership team 100 yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's the thing that's yeah and that's the thing that's yeah and that's the thing that's exciting because it because we realize exciting because it because we realize exciting because it because we realize this is kind of the next this is kind of the next this is kind of the next i think the next thing i think i think i think the next thing i think i think i think the next thing i think i think for us to continue to reach and for us to continue to reach and for us to continue to reach and encourage and help people encourage and help people encourage and help people grow i think this is it and our grow i think this is it and our grow i think this is it and our leadership fully gets it leadership fully gets it leadership fully gets it um process it's actually part of our um process it's actually part of our um process it's actually part of our next next next um giving campaign is to grow and go um giving campaign is to grow and go um giving campaign is to grow and go um and so so we're actually the process um and so so we're actually the process um and so so we're actually the process of figuring out how to put together a of figuring out how to put together a of figuring out how to put together a studio studio studio that we can actually film different that we can actually film different that we can actually film different different different kinds of content different different kinds of content different different kinds of content that's both outward facing into the that's both outward facing into the that's both outward facing into the community for the stuff needs we talked community for the stuff needs we talked community for the stuff needs we talked about earlier about earlier about earlier as well as do except for our church as well as do except for our church as well as do except for our church family to care for them really really family to care for them really really family to care for them really really well well well and say in our in our church leadership and say in our in our church leadership and say in our in our church leadership team is involved in helping create

team is involved in helping create team is involved in helping create content research for content content research for content content research for content and have just been highly empowering and and have just been highly empowering and and have just been highly empowering and kind with resources time and energy kind with resources time and energy kind with resources time and energy about this about this about this it's been great yeah you know it's been great yeah you know it's been great yeah you know uh when i think about which i'm curious uh when i think about which i'm curious uh when i think about which i'm curious to learn about to learn about to learn about your your team that you assembled and your your team that you assembled and your your team that you assembled and and where and how many more people you and where and how many more people you and where and how many more people you want to add on so i asked that question want to add on so i asked that question want to add on so i asked that question that question a second that question a second that question a second but before that it's really great to but before that it's really great to but before that it's really great to know that you know that you know that you you know you have content generators you know you have content generators you know you have content generators right i mean your week in worship right i mean your week in worship right i mean your week in worship that sermon alone is a phenomenal that sermon alone is a phenomenal that sermon alone is a phenomenal content generator you got content generator you got content generator you got three or four thousand words that was three or four thousand words that was three or four thousand words that was preached but are you preached but are you preached but are you getting other staff involved in content getting other staff involved in content getting other staff involved in content creation creation creation and then what does your immediate team and then what does your immediate team and then what does your immediate team look like that's not great that's the uh look like that's not great that's the uh look like that's not great that's the uh great questions um as far as as far as great questions um as far as as far as great questions um as far as as far as my team that's the one thing that's that my team that's the one thing that's that my team that's the one thing that's that because i'm so fresh to this because i'm so fresh to this because i'm so fresh to this um i don't even have a i don't have an um i don't even have a i don't have an um i don't even have a i don't have an official job description yet official job description yet official job description yet from a job description is from one of from a job description is from one of from a job description is from one of our lead pastors you say colby we want our lead pastors you say colby we want our lead pastors you say colby we want you to you to you to connect with people care for people connect with people care for people connect with people care for people build relationships with people online build relationships with people online build relationships with people online i'm like i'm like i'm like i can do that okay i can do that okay i can do that okay [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] but as far as my team goes my team is but as far as my team goes my team is but as far as my team goes my team is primarily volunteers right now and so primarily volunteers right now and so primarily volunteers right now and so i'm in the process of building i'm in the process of building i'm in the process of building building my team of volunteers that's building my team of volunteers that's building my team of volunteers that's helping me you know create helping me you know create helping me you know create lists of questions that we can answer lists of questions that we can answer lists of questions that we can answer for the community uh for the community uh for the community uh volunteers that are helping be part of volunteers that are helping be part of volunteers that are helping be part of the host team to expand what that looks the host team to expand what that looks the host team to expand what that looks like like like follow-up team people that we're on our follow-up team people that we're on our follow-up team people that we're on our facebook and we're on our church online facebook and we're on our church online facebook and we're on our church online platform that's

platform that's platform that's disconnected with that and so that's disconnected with that and so that's disconnected with that and so that's that's kind of my area and then that's kind of my area and then that's kind of my area and then different ministries in our church have different ministries in our church have different ministries in our church have been given the green light been given the green light been given the green light to create things that are both church to create things that are both church to create things that are both church family facing and outward facing content family facing and outward facing content family facing and outward facing content and so probably probably to kind of lead and so probably probably to kind of lead and so probably probably to kind of lead into now that second part of your into now that second part of your into now that second part of your question question question probably the most successful stuff we probably the most successful stuff we probably the most successful stuff we have right now because of our community have right now because of our community have right now because of our community is a lot of young families who take the is a lot of young families who take the is a lot of young families who take the success of their kids success of their kids success of their kids highly highly so highly highly seriously highly highly so highly highly seriously highly highly so highly highly seriously and so so like um we have uh marriage and so so like um we have uh marriage and so so like um we have uh marriage mondays where uh mondays where uh mondays where uh the lady lady who oversees our marriage the lady lady who oversees our marriage the lady lady who oversees our marriage ministry and her husband that's our ministry and her husband that's our ministry and her husband that's our worship pastor worship pastor worship pastor two of them sit down and talk serious two of them sit down and talk serious two of them sit down and talk serious marriage stuff marriage stuff marriage stuff um every evening and probably it is um every evening and probably it is um every evening and probably it is probably our probably our probably our most engaged uh item that we offer most engaged uh item that we offer most engaged uh item that we offer people right now it's got a ton of people right now it's got a ton of people right now it's got a ton of engagement engagement engagement the other thing that we do is is our the other thing that we do is is our the other thing that we do is is our next gen ministry is trying to do things next gen ministry is trying to do things next gen ministry is trying to do things that are directly engaging families that are directly engaging families that are directly engaging families to answer questions and help with things to answer questions and help with things to answer questions and help with things that that they that they need help with that that they that they need help with that that they that they need help with so so so we actually just did a birds of the bees we actually just did a birds of the bees we actually just did a birds of the bees one about talking with the different age one about talking with the different age one about talking with the different age groups groups groups about about the birds of the bees and so about about the birds of the bees and so about about the birds of the bees and so you know our one of our senior pastors you know our one of our senior pastors you know our one of our senior pastors did kind of the overlying one and then did kind of the overlying one and then did kind of the overlying one and then it was able to break out into spokes it it was able to break out into spokes it it was able to break out into spokes it was age specific was age specific was age specific and so our kids pastor did one for how and so our kids pastor did one for how and so our kids pastor did one for how to talk with younger kids because to talk with younger kids because to talk with younger kids because because i've been worked with student because i've been worked with student because i've been worked with student mystery for so long they pulled me back mystery for so long they pulled me back mystery for so long they pulled me back to do the one for middle school to do the one for middle school to do the one for middle school and then we offered like five different and then we offered like five different and then we offered like five different ones for it and that that got a ton of ones for it and that that got a ton of ones for it and that that got a ton of engagement engagement engagement from people in and out of our church and from people in and out of our church and from people in and out of our church and then we're trying to figure out what then we're trying to figure out what then we're trying to figure out what what our next steps are what are some

what our next steps are what are some what our next steps are what are some basic questions people have i basic questions people have i basic questions people have i i met with one of our young adults in i met with one of our young adults in i met with one of our young adults in church literally this weekend he's like church literally this weekend he's like church literally this weekend he's like you know people have theological you know people have theological you know people have theological questions that we need to help them with questions that we need to help them with questions that we need to help them with and and we need to make it bite-sized and and we need to make it bite-sized and and we need to make it bite-sized and easy but smart and like i couldn't and easy but smart and like i couldn't and easy but smart and like i couldn't agree more and agree more and agree more and one of our others one of our senior one of our others one of our senior one of our others one of our senior pastors has been working diligently on pastors has been working diligently on pastors has been working diligently on that that that and getting those down to about 10 and getting those down to about 10 and getting those down to about 10 minute pieces that we can start to put minute pieces that we can start to put minute pieces that we can start to put out there out there out there that can that can help answer those that can that can help answer those that can that can help answer those questions and so but there questions and so but there questions and so but there and and that's just phase one i mean and and that's just phase one i mean and and that's just phase one i mean we're gonna continue to go out there i we're gonna continue to go out there i we're gonna continue to go out there i mean our vision mean our vision mean our vision for is to come to a place where it's for is to come to a place where it's for is to come to a place where it's almost like when we were kids almost like when we were kids almost like when we were kids and uh we got to watch cartoons on and uh we got to watch cartoons on and uh we got to watch cartoons on saturday morning and they would come out saturday morning and they would come out saturday morning and they would come out that the tv channel would release what that the tv channel would release what that the tv channel would release what the lineup was that they were so excited the lineup was that they were so excited the lineup was that they were so excited about about about with these shows that were coming out with these shows that were coming out with these shows that were coming out every week where we want to have every week where we want to have every week where we want to have something similar to that where we're something similar to that where we're something similar to that where we're able to have things able to have things able to have things that face out into the community that that face out into the community that that face out into the community that are being felt needs are being felt needs are being felt needs some stuff that just literally is matter some stuff that just literally is matter some stuff that just literally is matter of fact about how do you cook a great of fact about how do you cook a great of fact about how do you cook a great meal meal meal in under two hours for a busy family you in under two hours for a busy family you in under two hours for a busy family you know and how do you coach your kid to know and how do you coach your kid to know and how do you coach your kid to keep their head in the game when they're keep their head in the game when they're keep their head in the game when they're losing their mind losing their mind losing their mind you know you know different things like you know you know different things like you know you know different things like that what can we do to help with some of that what can we do to help with some of that what can we do to help with some of those things right those things right those things right that that's gonna be that's gonna be that that's gonna be that's gonna be that that's gonna be that's gonna be step two is figuring out those kinds of step two is figuring out those kinds of step two is figuring out those kinds of things that we can do in our community things that we can do in our community things that we can do in our community wow wow it sounds i mean thanks for that wow wow it sounds i mean thanks for that wow wow it sounds i mean thanks for that input and yeah input and yeah input and yeah went deeper there because it seems like went deeper there because it seems like went deeper there because it seems like you you you i guess i have in the my mind you the i guess i have in the my mind you the i guess i have in the my mind you the picture is you're a conduit picture is you're a conduit picture is you're a conduit so sometimes you are the end of the so sometimes you are the end of the so sometimes you are the end of the conduit but your conduit you know the conduit but your conduit you know the conduit but your conduit you know the people people people as they have these like this gentleman as they have these like this gentleman as they have these like this gentleman you talked about you talked about you talked about what a great way to say go check out what a great way to say go check out what a great way to say go check out this ministry over here because they are

this ministry over here because they are this ministry over here because they are totally helping guys like you and you're totally helping guys like you and you're totally helping guys like you and you're just walking along with them just walking along with them just walking along with them that's right but you don't have to have that's right but you don't have to have that's right but you don't have to have the burden of oh my goodness you've got the burden of oh my goodness you've got the burden of oh my goodness you've got 100 people you got to minister to and 100 people you got to minister to and 100 people you got to minister to and disciple that disciple that disciple that that's overwhelming but if you can just that's overwhelming but if you can just that's overwhelming but if you can just be a person to receive them listen be a person to receive them listen be a person to receive them listen develop a friendship and then develop a friendship and then develop a friendship and then within the right direction seems like within the right direction seems like within the right direction seems like that's a huge win yeah i'm part that's a huge win yeah i'm part that's a huge win yeah i'm part a part pastor park concierge part a part pastor park concierge part a part pastor park concierge part dreamer dreamer dreamer our facilitator i mean there's a i'm our facilitator i mean there's a i'm our facilitator i mean there's a i'm wearing a lot of different hats with wearing a lot of different hats with wearing a lot of different hats with this right now as we continue to figure this right now as we continue to figure this right now as we continue to figure it out it out it out well i love your answer about volunteers well i love your answer about volunteers well i love your answer about volunteers because that tells me you know you don't because that tells me you know you don't because that tells me you know you don't need to have a million bucks allocated need to have a million bucks allocated need to have a million bucks allocated towards this thing sure would be nice towards this thing sure would be nice towards this thing sure would be nice but sometimes you just got to start off but sometimes you just got to start off but sometimes you just got to start off with just the bare minimums and just with just the bare minimums and just with just the bare minimums and just start start start building from there so that should be building from there so that should be building from there so that should be encouraging for a lot of churches that encouraging for a lot of churches that encouraging for a lot of churches that you you you don't have to have it all figured out don't have to have it all figured out don't have to have it all figured out that's right yeah that's right yeah that's right yeah yeah i mean i mean that's that's like i yeah i mean i mean that's that's like i yeah i mean i mean that's that's like i mean that goes all the way back to the mean that goes all the way back to the mean that goes all the way back to the first century church right first century church right first century church right jesus pulled a group of people who had jesus pulled a group of people who had jesus pulled a group of people who had technically been technically been technically been turned down and turned out by other turned down and turned out by other turned down and turned out by other rabbis to say i see something in you rabbis to say i see something in you rabbis to say i see something in you i'm gonna give you something to do now i'm gonna give you something to do now i'm gonna give you something to do now you can go do it you're available and you can go do it you're available and you can go do it you're available and you're willing you're willing you're willing your heart's in the right place i can your heart's in the right place i can your heart's in the right place i can work with the rest and i work with the rest and i work with the rest and i and i think we have that mentality we and i think we have that mentality we and i think we have that mentality we can include a lot of people it's a can include a lot of people it's a can include a lot of people it's a pretty exciting ministry pretty exciting ministry pretty exciting ministry yeah wow well cool well colby thanks man yeah wow well cool well colby thanks man yeah wow well cool well colby thanks man this has been incredibly insightful very this has been incredibly insightful very this has been incredibly insightful very helpful for helpful for helpful for uh encouraging for people that are uh encouraging for people that are uh encouraging for people that are getting into space and getting into space and getting into space and you know our prayer is that we just go you know our prayer is that we just go you know our prayer is that we just go deeper in this and figure things out and deeper in this and figure things out and deeper in this and figure things out and get these early success wins like you've

get these early success wins like you've get these early success wins like you've been getting but been getting but been getting but along the way we're gonna we're gonna along the way we're gonna we're gonna along the way we're gonna we're gonna learn more and more and definitely uh learn more and more and definitely uh learn more and more and definitely uh lord willing we just he keeps blessing lord willing we just he keeps blessing lord willing we just he keeps blessing it yep it yep it yep that's it that's the goal keep growing that's it that's the goal keep growing that's it that's the goal keep growing keep getting better and keep helping keep getting better and keep helping keep getting better and keep helping people people people yeah well thanks man i appreciate you yeah well thanks man i appreciate you yeah well thanks man i appreciate you thanks a lot jason thanks for having me thanks a lot jason thanks for having me thanks a lot jason thanks for having me today i hope you have a great day today i hope you have a great day today i hope you have a great day yeah you too well colby uh amazing job yeah you too well colby uh amazing job yeah you too well colby uh amazing job thank you so much for sharing your thank you so much for sharing your thank you so much for sharing your insight insight insight your wisdom and uh what you've your wisdom and uh what you've your wisdom and uh what you've experienced so far experienced so far experienced so far it's really cool to see you already it's really cool to see you already it's really cool to see you already making an impact reaching more people making an impact reaching more people making an impact reaching more people and connecting with people and connecting with people and connecting with people yo so this should be some good news for yo so this should be some good news for yo so this should be some good news for us out there that us out there that us out there that maybe have a smaller church don't have maybe have a smaller church don't have maybe have a smaller church don't have much of a budget much of a budget much of a budget that it doesn't matter how big you are that it doesn't matter how big you are that it doesn't matter how big you are anybody and everybody anybody and everybody anybody and everybody should and can be doing this online should and can be doing this online should and can be doing this online ministry ministry ministry connecting with people digitally and connecting with people digitally and connecting with people digitally and no doubt colby and his team are going to no doubt colby and his team are going to no doubt colby and his team are going to be making some headway here we'll be be making some headway here we'll be be making some headway here we'll be tuning in to them and watching them tuning in to them and watching them tuning in to them and watching them along the way along the way along the way but i want to encourage you i want to but i want to encourage you i want to but i want to encourage you i want to encourage you that if you're not encourage you that if you're not encourage you that if you're not you know sure what to do or you're not you know sure what to do or you're not you know sure what to do or you're not exactly exactly exactly comfortable with getting this online comfortable with getting this online comfortable with getting this online space do what colby did space do what colby did space do what colby did do some research right check out some of do some research right check out some of do some research right check out some of the resources that he's checked out the resources that he's checked out the resources that he's checked out learn engage ask questions learn engage ask questions learn engage ask questions and you can as well create an online and you can as well create an online and you can as well create an online ministry to reach people not only ministry to reach people not only ministry to reach people not only your people but people in your community your people but people in your community your people but people in your community and even and even and even beyond now missional marketing that's beyond now missional marketing that's beyond now missional marketing that's our folk our folk our folk our focus is fully to help churches

our focus is fully to help churches our focus is fully to help churches reach people reach people reach people outside of their reach to connect those outside of their reach to connect those outside of their reach to connect those who might be searching who might be searching who might be searching for a church but maybe they're searching for a church but maybe they're searching for a church but maybe they're searching for felt need for felt need for felt need type of issues and connecting them with type of issues and connecting them with type of issues and connecting them with a local church we've got a lot of a local church we've got a lot of a local church we've got a lot of solutions solutions solutions to offer you so if you're interested to offer you so if you're interested to offer you so if you're interested check that out go to our website check that out go to our website check that out go to our website you can learn a lot about that uh but you can learn a lot about that uh but you can learn a lot about that uh but i'd also have you check out i'd also have you check out i'd also have you check out preston trail and and get connected with preston trail and and get connected with preston trail and and get connected with colby and uh he'd be more than happy colby and uh he'd be more than happy colby and uh he'd be more than happy to talk with you and share his insights to talk with you and share his insights to talk with you and share his insights and what he's learned and what he's learned and what he's learned as he moves down this path so thanks as he moves down this path so thanks as he moves down this path so thanks again for again for again for connecting god bless you we'll talk to connecting god bless you we'll talk to connecting god bless you we'll talk to you soon