Ep. 12: AI Unveiled | Breakthroughs, 2024 Predictions, and Practical Wisdom for Churches

welcome to the AI for Church's podcast welcome to the AI for Church's podcast our goal is to equip pastors and church our goal is to equip pastors and church our goal is to equip pastors and church leaders with resources related to leaders with resources related to leaders with resources related to artificial intelligence helpful for artificial intelligence helpful for artificial intelligence helpful for sermon prep creative Ministries Outreach sermon prep creative Ministries Outreach sermon prep creative Ministries Outreach and more we do this by providing and more we do this by providing and more we do this by providing exclusive insights from AI experts exclusive insights from AI experts exclusive insights from AI experts church leaders and innovators actively church leaders and innovators actively church leaders and innovators actively leveraging AI to amplify the gospel and leveraging AI to amplify the gospel and leveraging AI to amplify the gospel and reach more people for Jesus Christ here reach more people for Jesus Christ here reach more people for Jesus Christ here are your hosts Bart Blair and Dr David are your hosts Bart Blair and Dr David are your hosts Bart Blair and Dr David Thorn welcome to episode 12 of the AI Thorn welcome to episode 12 of the AI Thorn welcome to episode 12 of the AI for churches podcast my name is Bart for churches podcast my name is Bart for churches podcast my name is Bart Blair I am the co-host with David Thorne Blair I am the co-host with David Thorne Blair I am the co-host with David Thorne welcome to another episode of the show welcome to another episode of the show welcome to another episode of the show David are you doing well today yeah I'm David are you doing well today yeah I'm David are you doing well today yeah I'm doing very well I'm glad you answered doing very well I'm glad you answered doing very well I'm glad you answered that affirmatively because that would that affirmatively because that would that affirmatively because that would have really been ridiculous if IID asked have really been ridiculous if IID asked have really been ridiculous if IID asked you if you were doing well and you said you if you were doing well and you said you if you were doing well and you said no I'm actually not doing well but you no I'm actually not doing well but you no I'm actually not doing well but you are doing well I knew the answer to the are doing well I knew the answer to the are doing well I knew the answer to the question because we had a chance to get question because we had a chance to get question because we had a chance to get caught up before we started recording caught up before we started recording caught up before we started recording today uh those of you who are just today uh those of you who are just today uh those of you who are just tuning in for maybe the first time to tuning in for maybe the first time to tuning in for maybe the first time to the AI for churches podcast we want to the AI for churches podcast we want to the AI for churches podcast we want to welcome you to the show uh this is a welcome you to the show uh this is a welcome you to the show uh this is a relatively new podcast we've been doing relatively new podcast we've been doing relatively new podcast we've been doing this for roughly I don't know about this for roughly I don't know about this for roughly I don't know about seven eight months or so now we produce seven eight months or so now we produce seven eight months or so now we produce two podcast episodes uh a month or every two podcast episodes uh a month or every two podcast episodes uh a month or every other week and uh this is the 12th other week and uh this is the 12th other week and uh this is the 12th episode of the show uh David and I took episode of the show uh David and I took episode of the show uh David and I took over the podcast just a few episodes ago over the podcast just a few episodes ago over the podcast just a few episodes ago so it's still relatively new for us uh so it's still relatively new for us uh so it's still relatively new for us uh we're really excited about the we're really excited about the we're really excited about the opportunity to be able to share the opportunity to be able to share the opportunity to be able to share the things that we're learning about AI I'll things that we're learning about AI I'll things that we're learning about AI I'll say we most specifically David David is say we most specifically David David is say we most specifically David David is the uh a I research guy on the missional the uh a I research guy on the missional the uh a I research guy on the missional marketing team and U he's the man who's

marketing team and U he's the man who's marketing team and U he's the man who's got lots of answers and I'm going to ask got lots of answers and I'm going to ask got lots of answers and I'm going to ask him a lot of questions today and he's him a lot of questions today and he's him a lot of questions today and he's going to give us a lot of answers so going to give us a lot of answers so going to give us a lot of answers so David before we get into kind of a recap David before we get into kind of a recap David before we get into kind of a recap of 2023 and a look ahead to 2024 is of 2023 and a look ahead to 2024 is of 2023 and a look ahead to 2024 is there anything that you wanted to add or there anything that you wanted to add or there anything that you wanted to add or anything you wanted to share with the anything you wanted to share with the anything you wanted to share with the audience before we start digging into audience before we start digging into audience before we start digging into some of the details of artificial some of the details of artificial some of the details of artificial intelligence for intelligence for intelligence for churches well um I'll say this the year churches well um I'll say this the year churches well um I'll say this the year 2023 as we well know was uh the person 2023 as we well know was uh the person 2023 as we well know was uh the person of the year was Taylor Swift okay and of the year was Taylor Swift okay and of the year was Taylor Swift okay and the uh thing of the year the the the uh thing of the year the the the uh thing of the year the the probably the catchphrase of the year probably the catchphrase of the year probably the catchphrase of the year would probably be Ai and artificial would probably be Ai and artificial would probably be Ai and artificial intelligence so that's I I would say intelligence so that's I I would say intelligence so that's I I would say that this is a very very important topic that this is a very very important topic that this is a very very important topic for churches and for just for churches and for just for churches and for just people right yeah I I I would just add people right yeah I I I would just add people right yeah I I I would just add one other thing there if you're new to one other thing there if you're new to one other thing there if you're new to the show we're really what our goal our the show we're really what our goal our the show we're really what our goal our objective is is that if you're a church objective is is that if you're a church objective is is that if you're a church leader or you serve in some capacity in leader or you serve in some capacity in leader or you serve in some capacity in a church our goal is a lot of ways is to a church our goal is a lot of ways is to a church our goal is a lot of ways is to demystify artificial intelligence for demystify artificial intelligence for demystify artificial intelligence for you um we're firm Believers that you um we're firm Believers that you um we're firm Believers that artificial intelligence uh can actually artificial intelligence uh can actually artificial intelligence uh can actually be a really good thing it's something be a really good thing it's something be a really good thing it's something that can be beneficial to us in the that can be beneficial to us in the that can be beneficial to us in the church we know that a lot of people are church we know that a lot of people are church we know that a lot of people are very leery about the way that AI is is very leery about the way that AI is is very leery about the way that AI is is uh is being postured as a tool uh is being postured as a tool uh is being postured as a tool especially in the church but we really especially in the church but we really especially in the church but we really believe that there are a lot of good believe that there are a lot of good believe that there are a lot of good things that can actually help the church things that can actually help the church things that can actually help the church accomplish its mission in reaching more accomplish its mission in reaching more accomplish its mission in reaching more people for Jesus um we do think that it people for Jesus um we do think that it people for Jesus um we do think that it takes you know some some wisdom and some takes you know some some wisdom and some takes you know some some wisdom and some discernment in terms of what you use and discernment in terms of what you use and discernment in terms of what you use and how you use it it but uh but we're fans how you use it it but uh but we're fans how you use it it but uh but we're fans and we're learning how to use it and and we're learning how to use it and and we're learning how to use it and even in our own Ministries and our own

even in our own Ministries and our own even in our own Ministries and our own work we're learning how to leverage the work we're learning how to leverage the work we're learning how to leverage the tools that are available to us and tools that are available to us and tools that are available to us and they're just more and more coming out on they're just more and more coming out on they're just more and more coming out on a regular basis and I think a regular basis and I think a regular basis and I think 2023 was kind of a banner year of us 2023 was kind of a banner year of us 2023 was kind of a banner year of us really seeing just the the I mean the really seeing just the the I mean the really seeing just the the I mean the very very very tip of the iceberg as far very very very tip of the iceberg as far very very very tip of the iceberg as far as artificial intelligence and and what as artificial intelligence and and what as artificial intelligence and and what it can be and what it can mean for us it can be and what it can mean for us it can be and what it can mean for us why don't you start David by just kind why don't you start David by just kind why don't you start David by just kind of giving us a look over the last really of giving us a look over the last really of giving us a look over the last really maybe the last two years 2022 2023 what maybe the last two years 2022 2023 what maybe the last two years 2022 2023 what has the AI Journey really looked like uh has the AI Journey really looked like uh has the AI Journey really looked like uh for the last couple of years yeah so and for the last couple of years yeah so and for the last couple of years yeah so and I think this is really important for us I think this is really important for us I think this is really important for us to pause and think about how far we've to pause and think about how far we've to pause and think about how far we've come in the past 12 months okay and so come in the past 12 months okay and so come in the past 12 months okay and so we have to go back a little bit further we have to go back a little bit further we have to go back a little bit further to that and I I want to start with like to that and I I want to start with like to that and I I want to start with like two major categories is there are image two major categories is there are image two major categories is there are image generators like artificial image generators like artificial image generators like artificial image generators where you put in a text generators where you put in a text generators where you put in a text and it creates an image then there are and it creates an image then there are and it creates an image then there are just word generators where you put in a just word generators where you put in a just word generators where you put in a word or a question or ask it to do a word or a question or ask it to do a word or a question or ask it to do a thing and the the word thing and the the word thing and the the word generator generates something and those generator generates something and those generator generates something and those are the two big buckets in are the two big buckets in are the two big buckets in 2023 um there is a third category that's 2023 um there is a third category that's 2023 um there is a third category that's been added which is more of this uh you been added which is more of this uh you been added which is more of this uh you know image to video or even uh what's know image to video or even uh what's know image to video or even uh what's called multimodal anyways let me pause called multimodal anyways let me pause called multimodal anyways let me pause right there so let me pause and just right there so let me pause and just right there so let me pause and just saying going back and at the in March of

saying going back and at the in March of saying going back and at the in March of 2022 and then August of 2022 two image 2022 and then August of 2022 two image 2022 and then August of 2022 two image generators launched publicly mid journey generators launched publicly mid journey generators launched publicly mid journey and stable diffusion so those were big and stable diffusion so those were big and stable diffusion so those were big guys that came out on came out publicly guys that came out on came out publicly guys that came out on came out publicly and then in November right towards the and then in November right towards the and then in November right towards the end of the year chat end of the year chat end of the year chat GPT came out public that was 2022 wow GPT came out public that was 2022 wow GPT came out public that was 2022 wow it's yeah it's hard to believe it's been it's yeah it's hard to believe it's been it's yeah it's hard to believe it's been over well over a year since chat GPT over well over a year since chat GPT over well over a year since chat GPT came out within five days over a million came out within five days over a million came out within five days over a million people uh logged in and tried to get in people uh logged in and tried to get in people uh logged in and tried to get in a part of a Chad GPT so it just saying a part of a Chad GPT so it just saying a part of a Chad GPT so it just saying that was right at the end of that was right at the end of that was right at the end of 2022 now it was kind of like there's a 2022 now it was kind of like there's a 2022 now it was kind of like there's a little bit of a dot dot dot like during little bit of a dot dot dot like during little bit of a dot dot dot like during that time those platforms uh kept that time those platforms uh kept that time those platforms uh kept developing and we're dot dot dotting developing and we're dot dot dotting developing and we're dot dot dotting until March 14th so basically until March 14th so basically until March 14th so basically a year later since a mid Journey came a year later since a mid Journey came a year later since a mid Journey came out chat GPT moved from chat GPT three out chat GPT moved from chat GPT three out chat GPT moved from chat GPT three uh and 3.5 to chat gbt 4 and chat gbt 4 uh and 3.5 to chat gbt 4 and chat gbt 4 uh and 3.5 to chat gbt 4 and chat gbt 4 um is a part of their paid service um um is a part of their paid service um um is a part of their paid service um it's cost 20 bucks a month and they it it's cost 20 bucks a month and they it it's cost 20 bucks a month and they it includes both image and word artificial includes both image and word artificial includes both image and word artificial you know you know you know generation and it it it is absolutely generation and it it it is absolutely generation and it it it is absolutely the like the cream of the crop it sets the like the cream of the crop it sets the like the cream of the crop it sets the tone for what these kind of um any the tone for what these kind of um any the tone for what these kind of um any type of gener AI generation can do um

type of gener AI generation can do um type of gener AI generation can do um that was in March that really wasn't that was in March that really wasn't that was in March that really wasn't that long ago no it feels like it's been that long ago no it feels like it's been that long ago no it feels like it's been it's been around for eons but it it it's been around for eons but it it it's been around for eons but it it hasn't Chad gp4 came out on March 14th hasn't Chad gp4 came out on March 14th hasn't Chad gp4 came out on March 14th isn't that crazy yeah at the time that isn't that crazy yeah at the time that isn't that crazy yeah at the time that we're recording this it's roughly nine we're recording this it's roughly nine we're recording this it's roughly nine nine months ago essentially nine months ago essentially nine months ago essentially yeah yeah then a few other ones uh also yeah yeah then a few other ones uh also yeah yeah then a few other ones uh also in March Google's Bard came out then in in March Google's Bard came out then in in March Google's Bard came out then in July Claude 2 came out and then this July Claude 2 came out and then this July Claude 2 came out and then this past December Google's Bard added in past December Google's Bard added in past December Google's Bard added in kind of like a a heftier AI engine under kind of like a a heftier AI engine under kind of like a a heftier AI engine under the hood called Gemini um that's a lot the hood called Gemini um that's a lot the hood called Gemini um that's a lot of dates but I think the B the big kind of dates but I think the B the big kind of dates but I think the B the big kind of exciting and kind of crazy thing to of exciting and kind of crazy thing to of exciting and kind of crazy thing to think is that that all think is that that all think is that that all happened basically in the last like nine happened basically in the last like nine happened basically in the last like nine months chat gbt 4 Google's barred claw months chat gbt 4 Google's barred claw months chat gbt 4 Google's barred claw 2 um like it it's not it hasn't been 2 um like it it's not it hasn't been 2 um like it it's not it hasn't been around all that long so for those of you around all that long so for those of you around all that long so for those of you know church people who are out there are know church people who are out there are know church people who are out there are church leaders and you feel like man I I church leaders and you feel like man I I church leaders and you feel like man I I think I'm just totally missing the boat think I'm just totally missing the boat think I'm just totally missing the boat you actually haven't we're talking about you actually haven't we're talking about you actually haven't we're talking about things that are hardly even a year old things that are hardly even a year old things that are hardly even a year old so there's no boat to miss the boat is so there's no boat to miss the boat is so there's no boat to miss the boat is hasn't even left the port yet hop on the hasn't even left the port yet hop on the hasn't even left the port yet hop on the boat there's plenty of time plenty of boat there's plenty of time plenty of boat there's plenty of time plenty of space uh you haven't missed that much space uh you haven't missed that much space uh you haven't missed that much and if you're starting at Ground Zero and if you're starting at Ground Zero and if you're starting at Ground Zero right now it's a great time to jump on right now it's a great time to jump on right now it's a great time to jump on the boat and get learning yeah I mean it

the boat and get learning yeah I mean it the boat and get learning yeah I mean it would be silly it it' be like a person would be silly it it' be like a person would be silly it it' be like a person saying well I didn't get the first saying well I didn't get the first saying well I didn't get the first generation of an iPhone so I'm just generation of an iPhone so I'm just generation of an iPhone so I'm just never going to own a smartphone right never going to own a smartphone right never going to own a smartphone right like I'm just gonna use I'm just gonna like I'm just gonna use I'm just gonna like I'm just gonna use I'm just gonna use a rotary dial for the rest of my use a rotary dial for the rest of my use a rotary dial for the rest of my life because I didn't get the first life because I didn't get the first life because I didn't get the first iPhone you know the the technology is iPhone you know the the technology is iPhone you know the the technology is advancing so quickly and I want to ask advancing so quickly and I want to ask advancing so quickly and I want to ask you a question about that are there any you a question about that are there any you a question about that are there any things that you shared there you know things that you shared there you know things that you shared there you know between the the launch of mid journey between the the launch of mid journey between the the launch of mid journey and stable diffusion and chat GPT and and stable diffusion and chat GPT and and stable diffusion and chat GPT and Bard and all these other things are Bard and all these other things are Bard and all these other things are there any particular advancements in the there any particular advancements in the there any particular advancements in the AI technology that really just sort of AI technology that really just sort of AI technology that really just sort of stand out in your mind as being those stand out in your mind as being those stand out in your mind as being those Monumental things that we go that was Monumental things that we go that was Monumental things that we go that was huge for AI in huge for AI in huge for AI in 2023 yeah well I would 2023 yeah well I would 2023 yeah well I would say you you can't ignore chat GPT 4 um say you you can't ignore chat GPT 4 um say you you can't ignore chat GPT 4 um well and and and added to that is uh I well and and and added to that is uh I well and and and added to that is uh I didn't add I didn't look up this date didn't add I didn't look up this date didn't add I didn't look up this date but they added uh the customizable but they added uh the customizable but they added uh the customizable gpts within chat GPT for right where a gpts within chat GPT for right where a gpts within chat GPT for right where a person can ask chat GPT to help them person can ask chat GPT to help them person can ask chat GPT to help them solve a specific problem to their use solve a specific problem to their use solve a specific problem to their use case and you can give it case and you can give it case and you can give it information um and kind of customize it information um and kind of customize it information um and kind of customize it to what you want it to do that's still to what you want it to do that's still to what you want it to do that's still it's kind of I think it's basically it's kind of I think it's basically it's kind of I think it's basically still experimental at the this point of still experimental at the this point of still experimental at the this point of um we we talked about that a bit in um we we talked about that a bit in um we we talked about that a bit in episode 11 yeah we we kind of got into episode 11 yeah we we kind of got into episode 11 yeah we we kind of got into that in our last our last episode but that in our last our last episode but that in our last our last episode but those are the two things Chachi pt4 is those are the two things Chachi pt4 is those are the two things Chachi pt4 is probably the biggest thing um and I I do

probably the biggest thing um and I I do probably the biggest thing um and I I do feel like every few months all of the feel like every few months all of the feel like every few months all of the image image image generators uh almost double their generators uh almost double their generators uh almost double their abilities like they they're they get abilities like they they're they get abilities like they they're they get even better um and all of them do like even better um and all of them do like even better um and all of them do like we're talking like every six months when we're talking like every six months when we're talking like every six months when we when we record this a year in review we when we record this a year in review we when we record this a year in review a year from now we'll probably look back a year from now we'll probably look back a year from now we'll probably look back on some of the ones like you know these on some of the ones like you know these on some of the ones like you know these other uh AI systems platforms and say other uh AI systems platforms and say other uh AI systems platforms and say wow that wasn't that great but it it's wow that wasn't that great but it it's wow that wasn't that great but it it's great now but it probably won't be super great now but it probably won't be super great now but it probably won't be super great in a year from now yeah like I great in a year from now yeah like I great in a year from now yeah like I said again you know if if you are the said again you know if if you are the said again you know if if you are the owner of a new what what's I don't even owner of a new what what's I don't even owner of a new what what's I don't even know what the latest iPhone is because know what the latest iPhone is because know what the latest iPhone is because I'm a Google pixel user I'm a Google pixel user I'm a Google pixel user 15 if if if if you have an iPhone 15 15 if if if if you have an iPhone 15 15 if if if if you have an iPhone 15 today and I handed you like an iPhone 4 today and I handed you like an iPhone 4 today and I handed you like an iPhone 4 it would probably feel like archaic it would probably feel like archaic it would probably feel like archaic technology right and really that's only technology right and really that's only technology right and really that's only been you know a handful of years um now been you know a handful of years um now been you know a handful of years um now you you talked a little bit about kind you you talked a little bit about kind you you talked a little bit about kind of what you're expecting to happen in of what you're expecting to happen in of what you're expecting to happen in 2024 this current and upcoming year um 2024 this current and upcoming year um 2024 this current and upcoming year um do you have any predictions like do you do you have any predictions like do you do you have any predictions like do you have a crystal ball do you know of have a crystal ball do you know of have a crystal ball do you know of things that are happening what can you things that are happening what can you things that are happening what can you share with us David that'll get us share with us David that'll get us share with us David that'll get us excited about what we might see in AI excited about what we might see in AI excited about what we might see in AI this next year yes I I'll put on my this next year yes I I'll put on my this next year yes I I'll put on my little like uh like I don't know looking little like uh like I don't know looking little like uh like I don't know looking at the future cap and bring out my at the future cap and bring out my at the future cap and bring out my crystal ball and uh you can call you crystal ball and uh you can call you crystal ball and uh you can call you know uh call me no Nostra David David know uh call me no Nostra David David know uh call me no Nostra David David okay of the of the future of AI here for

okay of the of the future of AI here for okay of the of the future of AI here for the next year um of course there's the the next year um of course there's the the next year um of course there's the caveat of no one knows but but but if caveat of no one knows but but but if caveat of no one knows but but but if anyone knows Nostra David might know anyone knows Nostra David might know anyone knows Nostra David might know Nostra David has a few a few predictions Nostra David has a few a few predictions Nostra David has a few a few predictions uh in the if you're doing like your the uh in the if you're doing like your the uh in the if you're doing like your the fantasy football of AI then uh you fantasy football of AI then uh you fantasy football of AI then uh you listen up uh so here's a few things is listen up uh so here's a few things is listen up uh so here's a few things is uh I we will continue to see AI um uh I we will continue to see AI um uh I we will continue to see AI um imperfectly added into almost everything imperfectly added into almost everything imperfectly added into almost everything we use and I'll give you an example that we use and I'll give you an example that we use and I'll give you an example that of I I I just saw this today um in my of I I I just saw this today um in my of I I I just saw this today um in my Google Docs there's this little like Google Docs there's this little like Google Docs there's this little like Star thing where I'm like writing Star thing where I'm like writing Star thing where I'm like writing something and at any point I can click something and at any point I can click something and at any point I can click that and it says what do you want me to that and it says what do you want me to that and it says what do you want me to do and I can ask it to do something and do and I can ask it to do something and do and I can ask it to do something and it will do it now is it going to do that it will do it now is it going to do that it will do it now is it going to do that thing well I'm going to guess it it's thing well I'm going to guess it it's thing well I'm going to guess it it's going to get whatever I wanted to do going to get whatever I wanted to do going to get whatever I wanted to do right about right about right about 20% to 25% of the time but that's the 20% to 25% of the time but that's the 20% to 25% of the time but that's the kind of stuff that we're going to see kind of stuff that we're going to see kind of stuff that we're going to see and you're going to see across all the and you're going to see across all the and you're going to see across all the products you use your Microsoft products products you use your Microsoft products products you use your Microsoft products zapier already has this um canva already zapier already has this um canva already zapier already has this um canva already has this um you're going to see that has this um you're going to see that has this um you're going to see that starting to be built in even more of the starting to be built in even more of the starting to be built in even more of the coming year so that's one thing Let Let coming year so that's one thing Let Let coming year so that's one thing Let Let me let me bounce on that just a little me let me bounce on that just a little me let me bounce on that just a little bit because if you're listening to this bit because if you're listening to this bit because if you're listening to this podcast there's a really good chance podcast there's a really good chance podcast there's a really good chance that you're a church leader and you that you're a church leader and you that you're a church leader and you actually use Church tools to manage your actually use Church tools to manage your actually use Church tools to manage your church so you might be using things such

church so you might be using things such church so you might be using things such as Planning Center or CCB or uh as Planning Center or CCB or uh as Planning Center or CCB or uh subsplash or something of that nature subsplash or something of that nature subsplash or something of that nature you'd be unwise to think that all of you'd be unwise to think that all of you'd be unwise to think that all of those companies are not trying to figure those companies are not trying to figure those companies are not trying to figure out the best and most effective way ways out the best and most effective way ways out the best and most effective way ways to implement AI strategies into their to implement AI strategies into their to implement AI strategies into their platforms to make managing your church platforms to make managing your church platforms to make managing your church and leading your church better and and leading your church better and and leading your church better and easier for you so you know you've named easier for you so you know you've named easier for you so you know you've named things like Google Docs and canva and things like Google Docs and canva and things like Google Docs and canva and zappier and and those you know I don't zappier and and those you know I don't zappier and and those you know I don't know how many churches are actually know how many churches are actually know how many churches are actually using zappier like that's a world you using zappier like that's a world you using zappier like that's a world you live in but everybody uses Google Docs live in but everybody uses Google Docs live in but everybody uses Google Docs and a lot of people are using canva but and a lot of people are using canva but and a lot of people are using canva but I mean if if Planning Center doesn't I mean if if Planning Center doesn't I mean if if Planning Center doesn't have an R&D team working on AI I will be have an R&D team working on AI I will be have an R&D team working on AI I will be absolutely shocked I'm sure that they're absolutely shocked I'm sure that they're absolutely shocked I'm sure that they're going you're going to start to see stuff going you're going to start to see stuff going you're going to start to see stuff with with Planning Center I mean you with with Planning Center I mean you with with Planning Center I mean you know I was an early adopter to Planning know I was an early adopter to Planning know I was an early adopter to Planning Center its first you know first product Center its first you know first product Center its first you know first product was planning weekend worship Services uh was planning weekend worship Services uh was planning weekend worship Services uh I why wouldn't Planning Center be able I why wouldn't Planning Center be able I why wouldn't Planning Center be able to build an AI tool I'm maybe giving to build an AI tool I'm maybe giving to build an AI tool I'm maybe giving them an idea if they's somebody from them an idea if they's somebody from them an idea if they's somebody from Planning Center listening to this where Planning Center listening to this where Planning Center listening to this where I say okay the sermon is going to be I say okay the sermon is going to be I say okay the sermon is going to be this and I want to create a worship set this and I want to create a worship set this and I want to create a worship set list that uses you know this theme or list that uses you know this theme or list that uses you know this theme or these scriptures and it pulls songs from these scriptures and it pulls songs from these scriptures and it pulls songs from your database that you already have in your database that you already have in your database that you already have in your Planning Center weekend worship your Planning Center weekend worship your Planning Center weekend worship service database and it organizes a service database and it organizes a service database and it organizes a worship set list for you based on that worship set list for you based on that worship set list for you based on that scripture using AI like those are the scripture using AI like those are the scripture using AI like those are the types of things that we're gonna see I types of things that we're gonna see I types of things that we're gonna see I I'll tell you that this is exactly how

I'll tell you that this is exactly how I'll tell you that this is exactly how AI would be would work perfectly within AI would be would work perfectly within AI would be would work perfectly within Planning Center again a Planning Center Planning Center again a Planning Center Planning Center again a Planning Center if you're listening um hopefully this if you're listening um hopefully this if you're listening um hopefully this isn't a trade secret I bet you you isn't a trade secret I bet you you isn't a trade secret I bet you you you're probably already thinking about you're probably already thinking about you're probably already thinking about doing this but AI could easily take the doing this but AI could easily take the doing this but AI could easily take the history of of of your you know Sunday history of of of your you know Sunday history of of of your you know Sunday services and extrapolate out the next services and extrapolate out the next services and extrapolate out the next six months of potential Services six months of potential Services six months of potential Services volunteering songs like if you enter in volunteering songs like if you enter in volunteering songs like if you enter in it could even it could probably suggest it could even it could probably suggest it could even it could probably suggest um you know titles or themes based off um you know titles or themes based off um you know titles or themes based off the previous three years of Planning the previous three years of Planning the previous three years of Planning Center Services um there's all kinds of Center Services um there's all kinds of Center Services um there's all kinds of stuff you could you could ask a summary stuff you could you could ask a summary stuff you could you could ask a summary of you know give me a summary of uh how of you know give me a summary of uh how of you know give me a summary of uh how many song what songs we played in the many song what songs we played in the many song what songs we played in the last six months and what songs are last six months and what songs are last six months and what songs are played the most there's all kinds of played the most there's all kinds of played the most there's all kinds of analytics you could probably do based analytics you could probably do based analytics you could probably do based off your previous history of knowledge off your previous history of knowledge off your previous history of knowledge and then of course with stuff like uh and then of course with stuff like uh and then of course with stuff like uh any kind of church management system any kind of church management system any kind of church management system like like like CCB um oh man like the kind of analytics CCB um oh man like the kind of analytics CCB um oh man like the kind of analytics and data that you could use AI to help and data that you could use AI to help and data that you could use AI to help you with which just it's just you with which just it's just you with which just it's just extraordinary it's going to be extraordinary it's going to be extraordinary it's going to be predictive giving predictive giving like predictive giving predictive giving like predictive giving predictive giving like that's one thing that every Church is that's one thing that every Church is that's one thing that every Church is always trying to figure out you know always trying to figure out you know always trying to figure out you know setting budgets and and and and setting budgets and and and and setting budgets and and and and determining you know what you believe determining you know what you believe determining you know what you believe that your tithes and offerings and and that your tithes and offerings and and that your tithes and offerings and and giving is going to be from year to year giving is going to be from year to year giving is going to be from year to year and AI in those platforms is I mean 100% and AI in those platforms is I mean 100% and AI in those platforms is I mean 100% it's going to be integrated in there so

it's going to be integrated in there so it's going to be integrated in there so goes back to our previous uh episode we goes back to our previous uh episode we goes back to our previous uh episode we we said churches many people according we said churches many people according we said churches many people according to a Bara study bar was it bar and glue to a Bara study bar was it bar and glue to a Bara study bar was it bar and glue whoever did that study said that most whoever did that study said that most whoever did that study said that most people in churches are uncomfortable people in churches are uncomfortable people in churches are uncomfortable with their churches using AI guess what with their churches using AI guess what with their churches using AI guess what there ain't going to be any way around there ain't going to be any way around there ain't going to be any way around it because all the tools that we use to it because all the tools that we use to it because all the tools that we use to manage churches are going to have some manage churches are going to have some manage churches are going to have some kind of AI component in them okay I kind of AI component in them okay I kind of AI component in them okay I Sidetrack this a little bit there and Sidetrack this a little bit there and Sidetrack this a little bit there and one one other note just say to that is one one other note just say to that is one one other note just say to that is you know we talk about how you know yeah you know we talk about how you know yeah you know we talk about how you know yeah of pastors saying like yeah two your of pastors saying like yeah two your of pastors saying like yeah two your same point of oh I don't know if I same point of oh I don't know if I same point of oh I don't know if I should I need to tell the congregation should I need to tell the congregation should I need to tell the congregation I'm using it or I don't know if I should I'm using it or I don't know if I should I'm using it or I don't know if I should ethically should I be using it the ethically should I be using it the ethically should I be using it the things we just mentioned are purely just things we just mentioned are purely just things we just mentioned are purely just an an an analytical task oriented helping give analytical task oriented helping give analytical task oriented helping give you more information to help you as a you more information to help you as a you more information to help you as a pastor do your job better I you know it pastor do your job better I you know it pastor do your job better I you know it it'd be in trying to like tell your your it'd be in trying to like tell your your it'd be in trying to like tell your your church that you used it that'd be like church that you used it that'd be like church that you used it that'd be like you know like like telling them like you know like like telling them like you know like like telling them like like you said like I just bought a new like you said like I just bought a new like you said like I just bought a new iPhone hey hey church I want to let you iPhone hey hey church I want to let you iPhone hey hey church I want to let you guys know I just bought a new iPhone um guys know I just bought a new iPhone um guys know I just bought a new iPhone um it has new technology in it um everyone it has new technology in it um everyone it has new technology in it um everyone would be like um we don't care that's would be like um we don't care that's would be like um we don't care that's good for good for good for you but yeah sorry okay okay okay all you but yeah sorry okay okay okay all you but yeah sorry okay okay okay all right yeah noer David um yes what else right yeah noer David um yes what else right yeah noer David um yes what else so imperfectly so imperfectly so imperfectly implementation of AI tools into regular implementation of AI tools into regular implementation of AI tools into regular products and services that we're using products and services that we're using products and services that we're using on a regular basis what other things do on a regular basis what other things do on a regular basis what other things do you uh Envision that we might see with

you uh Envision that we might see with you uh Envision that we might see with the AI World in the AI World in the AI World in 2024 right now ai image image generators 2024 right now ai image image generators 2024 right now ai image image generators are terrible at writing words if anyone are terrible at writing words if anyone are terrible at writing words if anyone out there has ever tried to use an AI out there has ever tried to use an AI out there has ever tried to use an AI image generator and asked it to write image generator and asked it to write image generator and asked it to write words it is bad at it yeah um you might words it is bad at it yeah um you might words it is bad at it yeah um you might have to ask it like seven different have to ask it like seven different have to ask it like seven different times to do the same thing before you times to do the same thing before you times to do the same thing before you get one usable image of words it's get one usable image of words it's get one usable image of words it's better right now just to write your better right now just to write your better right now just to write your words in a different program in this words in a different program in this words in a different program in this coming year I think this will be the coming year I think this will be the coming year I think this will be the year that AI image generators will start year that AI image generators will start year that AI image generators will start getting words right about 80% of the getting words right about 80% of the getting words right about 80% of the time so that's that's another prediction time so that's that's another prediction time so that's that's another prediction okay whereas right now it's maybe 20% of okay whereas right now it's maybe 20% of okay whereas right now it's maybe 20% of the time right the time right the time right say 20% I think it's not crazy to think say 20% I think it's not crazy to think say 20% I think it's not crazy to think it can move up to 80% okay um all right it can move up to 80% okay um all right it can move up to 80% okay um all right what else what else do you think that we what else what else do you think that we what else what else do you think that we might see in might see in might see in 2024 right now um if you put a text and 2024 right now um if you put a text and 2024 right now um if you put a text and you want to create a video of it it is you want to create a video of it it is you want to create a video of it it is not great so text to video give us an not great so text to video give us an not great so text to video give us an example what what do you what yeah sorry example what what do you what yeah sorry example what what do you what yeah sorry give us an example what that means well give us an example what that means well give us an example what that means well think of like when churches have buffer think of like when churches have buffer think of like when churches have buffer little buffer videos just a a three to little buffer videos just a a three to little buffer videos just a a three to five second video of like a family five second video of like a family five second video of like a family smiling around a Christmas tree or uh smiling around a Christmas tree or uh smiling around a Christmas tree or uh you know a New Year's like the the ball you know a New Year's like the the ball you know a New Year's like the the ball dropping and people smiling any kind of dropping and people smiling any kind of dropping and people smiling any kind of you know b-roll buffer video um we've you know b-roll buffer video um we've you know b-roll buffer video um we've begun the ability to write a text like I

begun the ability to write a text like I begun the ability to write a text like I want happy people with a ball dropping want happy people with a ball dropping want happy people with a ball dropping at New Year's and the the image gener at New Year's and the the image gener at New Year's and the the image gener generators will create a short video generators will create a short video generators will create a short video right now those videos are not great right now those videos are not great right now those videos are not great consistently or great at all uh in this consistently or great at all uh in this consistently or great at all uh in this coming year I believe they'll move from coming year I believe they'll move from coming year I believe they'll move from not great to more usable so not saying not great to more usable so not saying not great to more usable so not saying they will become great but they will they will become great but they will they will become great but they will become move from not great to usable become move from not great to usable become move from not great to usable okay all right that's a good one um I okay all right that's a good one um I okay all right that's a good one um I think you know one of the things that think you know one of the things that think you know one of the things that that uh we've talked a lot about just AI that uh we've talked a lot about just AI that uh we've talked a lot about just AI as a buzz word altogether and and I as a buzz word altogether and and I as a buzz word altogether and and I think one of the things that we we've think one of the things that we we've think one of the things that we we've talked about over previous episodes and talked about over previous episodes and talked about over previous episodes and I I think we talk about this offline as I I think we talk about this offline as I I think we talk about this offline as well is that you know everything with an well is that you know everything with an well is that you know everything with an AI label gets labeled AI uh but I think AI label gets labeled AI uh but I think AI label gets labeled AI uh but I think and I think that you're gonna you're and I think that you're gonna you're and I think that you're gonna you're going to go in this and maybe our next going to go in this and maybe our next going to go in this and maybe our next point is that we're probably going to point is that we're probably going to point is that we're probably going to get to a point where we don't even use get to a point where we don't even use get to a point where we don't even use the word AI or the term AI when we're the word AI or the term AI when we're the word AI or the term AI when we're describing the things that are actually describing the things that are actually describing the things that are actually happening in the real world we you want happening in the real world we you want happening in the real world we you want to dive into that a little bit Yeah I to dive into that a little bit Yeah I to dive into that a little bit Yeah I I've thought about that this a lot say I've thought about that this a lot say I've thought about that this a lot say Bart is that pretty soon we're just Bart is that pretty soon we're just Bart is that pretty soon we're just going to be talking about tools and going to be talking about tools and going to be talking about tools and helpful tools because they will all be helpful tools because they will all be helpful tools because they will all be AI so instead of saying this is an AI AI so instead of saying this is an AI AI so instead of saying this is an AI tool it's just saying this is just a tool it's just saying this is just a tool it's just saying this is just a tool and on that note I I to think about

tool and on that note I I to think about tool and on that note I I to think about where we are big picture we are where we are big picture we are where we are big picture we are definitely still on the ramping up phase definitely still on the ramping up phase definitely still on the ramping up phase where if you thought there were a lot of where if you thought there were a lot of where if you thought there were a lot of platforms out there doing a lot of stuff platforms out there doing a lot of stuff platforms out there doing a lot of stuff I think we will see double the amount of I think we will see double the amount of I think we will see double the amount of platforms coming out which is an platforms coming out which is an platforms coming out which is an overwhelming thing and also a good thing overwhelming thing and also a good thing overwhelming thing and also a good thing it's a good thing it's a good thing it's a good thing because uh we're going to see platforms because uh we're going to see platforms because uh we're going to see platforms be able to do more and offer more value be able to do more and offer more value be able to do more and offer more value um we're right now we could say I do um we're right now we could say I do um we're right now we could say I do thing a and you pay me money to do it thing a and you pay me money to do it thing a and you pay me money to do it and you know course you know Company B and you know course you know Company B and you know course you know Company B says I do I do thing B well I think this says I do I do thing B well I think this says I do I do thing B well I think this coming year with the competition out coming year with the competition out coming year with the competition out there we're going to see companies need there we're going to see companies need there we're going to see companies need to offer more at a lower price which is to offer more at a lower price which is to offer more at a lower price which is ultimately going to help us yeah yeah ultimately going to help us yeah yeah ultimately going to help us yeah yeah yeah I think I there's going to be kind yeah I think I there's going to be kind yeah I think I there's going to be kind of this standardization of artificial of this standardization of artificial of this standardization of artificial intelligence as just being another intelligence as just being another intelligence as just being another technology right we've sort of over over technology right we've sort of over over technology right we've sort of over over the course of the last 20 25 years we the course of the last 20 25 years we the course of the last 20 25 years we just sort of accepted different aspects just sort of accepted different aspects just sort of accepted different aspects of Technology sort of like you know 3G of Technology sort of like you know 3G of Technology sort of like you know 3G 4G 5G now do we really even talk about 4G 5G now do we really even talk about 4G 5G now do we really even talk about the G's it's just like we just want fast the G's it's just like we just want fast the G's it's just like we just want fast internet you know uh and and I think internet you know uh and and I think internet you know uh and and I think this the same thing is going going to be this the same thing is going going to be this the same thing is going going to be true when it comes to AI in embedded true when it comes to AI in embedded true when it comes to AI in embedded into technology it's just going to be an into technology it's just going to be an into technology it's just going to be an aspect of what all technology is and so aspect of what all technology is and so aspect of what all technology is and so it becomes much more normative um let's it becomes much more normative um let's it becomes much more normative um let's kind of close things out here and I I kind of close things out here and I I kind of close things out here and I I want you to talk about uh you mentioned want you to talk about uh you mentioned want you to talk about uh you mentioned just a minute ago or as we got started just a minute ago or as we got started just a minute ago or as we got started that you know the the ship is still that you know the the ship is still that you know the the ship is still being built and it hasn't even left the being built and it hasn't even left the being built and it hasn't even left the port yet I'm a pastor I'm a church

port yet I'm a pastor I'm a church port yet I'm a pastor I'm a church leader I'm an executive Pastor I serve leader I'm an executive Pastor I serve leader I'm an executive Pastor I serve on staff in a church somewhere and I'm on staff in a church somewhere and I'm on staff in a church somewhere and I'm like you know I just haven't got en my like you know I just haven't got en my like you know I just haven't got en my feet wet with AI yet what are some feet wet with AI yet what are some feet wet with AI yet what are some things that you think I should invest my things that you think I should invest my things that you think I should invest my time in or maybe even some Financial time in or maybe even some Financial time in or maybe even some Financial Resources in maybe first quarter or the Resources in maybe first quarter or the Resources in maybe first quarter or the first half of 2024 so that I can first half of 2024 so that I can first half of 2024 so that I can actually start learning how to use some actually start learning how to use some actually start learning how to use some AI tools or some technology that has AI AI tools or some technology that has AI AI tools or some technology that has AI incorporated into it what what advice or incorporated into it what what advice or incorporated into it what what advice or what coaching would you give to a pastor what coaching would you give to a pastor what coaching would you give to a pastor or church leader yeah I would say start or church leader yeah I would say start or church leader yeah I would say start free and that's that's a good place to free and that's that's a good place to free and that's that's a good place to start and there's two places I would start and there's two places I would start and there's two places I would suggest you start free the first is chat suggest you start free the first is chat suggest you start free the first is chat GPT GPT GPT 3.5 so that is a free platform that you 3.5 so that is a free platform that you 3.5 so that is a free platform that you can sign up to use and the second is can sign up to use and the second is can sign up to use and the second is bing.com create which is a Microsoft bing.com create which is a Microsoft bing.com create which is a Microsoft image generator that you can use for image generator that you can use for image generator that you can use for free those are two uh free platforms free those are two uh free platforms free those are two uh free platforms sign up sign up for those sign up sign up for those sign up sign up for those and then this is what you do with them I and then this is what you do with them I and then this is what you do with them I would say is uh a tool like anything would say is uh a tool like anything would say is uh a tool like anything that you would have it's only as useful that you would have it's only as useful that you would have it's only as useful as your ability to remember to use it so as your ability to remember to use it so as your ability to remember to use it so kind of like if uh uh if this past kind of like if uh uh if this past kind of like if uh uh if this past Christmas if you got that new kitchen Christmas if you got that new kitchen Christmas if you got that new kitchen tool like that fancy blender that you tool like that fancy blender that you tool like that fancy blender that you were looking for or um an insta pot

were looking for or um an insta pot were looking for or um an insta pot which I own and have owned for years but which I own and have owned for years but which I own and have owned for years but I don't use it because I'm kind of I don't use it because I'm kind of I don't use it because I'm kind of scared of it um those kinds of things scared of it um those kinds of things scared of it um those kinds of things are only useful when you think about are only useful when you think about are only useful when you think about using it so what I would say is here's using it so what I would say is here's using it so what I would say is here's how you can use chat GPT how you can use chat GPT how you can use chat GPT 3.5 use it for 3.5 use it for 3.5 use it for brainstorming um a part of every Church brainstorming um a part of every Church brainstorming um a part of every Church Leader's job there's a point where Leader's job there's a point where Leader's job there's a point where you're saying um it could be happening you're saying um it could be happening you're saying um it could be happening right now as as we're finishing up right now as as we're finishing up right now as as we're finishing up January you may start thinking about January you may start thinking about January you may start thinking about what are you doing the rest of this year what are you doing the rest of this year what are you doing the rest of this year well bring out your Chad GPT 3.5 and use well bring out your Chad GPT 3.5 and use well bring out your Chad GPT 3.5 and use it as like you're throwing ideas off the it as like you're throwing ideas off the it as like you're throwing ideas off the wall about your ministry and about your wall about your ministry and about your wall about your ministry and about your plans and about what you know just ideas plans and about what you know just ideas plans and about what you know just ideas coming up with names for things use it coming up with names for things use it coming up with names for things use it as a as a as a brainstormer um the second thing is you brainstormer um the second thing is you brainstormer um the second thing is you could use it to help you as just a could use it to help you as just a could use it to help you as just a framework for making plans so if you're framework for making plans so if you're framework for making plans so if you're trying to come up help me make a plan trying to come up help me make a plan trying to come up help me make a plan for dot dot dot give it information and for dot dot dot give it information and for dot dot dot give it information and chat gbt could be really helpful for chat gbt could be really helpful for chat gbt could be really helpful for those two kinds of tasks yeah I I know a those two kinds of tasks yeah I I know a those two kinds of tasks yeah I I know a lot of churches using it for things like lot of churches using it for things like lot of churches using it for things like I mean just get into chat GPT and say I mean just get into chat GPT and say I mean just get into chat GPT and say give me 10 creative ideas for uh give me 10 creative ideas for uh give me 10 creative ideas for uh Outreach in my community as a church Outreach in my community as a church Outreach in my community as a church this year um or I know churches you know this year um or I know churches you know this year um or I know churches you know using it to you know write their using it to you know write their using it to you know write their announcements uh write content for announcements uh write content for announcements uh write content for social media posts um you know one of social media posts um you know one of social media posts um you know one of the things that we we didn't talk about

the things that we we didn't talk about the things that we we didn't talk about earlier you we talked a lot about about earlier you we talked a lot about about earlier you we talked a lot about about content creation content Generation Um content creation content Generation Um content creation content Generation Um we know that even website development is we know that even website development is we know that even website development is going to start to have more AI going to start to have more AI going to start to have more AI incorporated into it where you can incorporated into it where you can incorporated into it where you can actually design web pages and write actually design web pages and write actually design web pages and write content for web pages using Ai and content for web pages using Ai and content for web pages using Ai and there's you know there's there's nothing there's you know there's there's nothing there's you know there's there's nothing wrong with that even if it's just a wrong with that even if it's just a wrong with that even if it's just a starting point or a brainstorm idea so I starting point or a brainstorm idea so I starting point or a brainstorm idea so I think I think that's that's pretty think I think that's that's pretty think I think that's that's pretty creative you just posted a thing over creative you just posted a thing over creative you just posted a thing over the holidays um uh you posted a thing the holidays um uh you posted a thing the holidays um uh you posted a thing over the holidays where you cooked a over the holidays where you cooked a over the holidays where you cooked a recipe uh using a chat was a chat GPT recipe uh using a chat was a chat GPT recipe uh using a chat was a chat GPT recipe was it snicker doodles some kind recipe was it snicker doodles some kind recipe was it snicker doodles some kind of cookies or something Snicker it I was of cookies or something Snicker it I was of cookies or something Snicker it I was just using free cha PT and sometimes just using free cha PT and sometimes just using free cha PT and sometimes like I like cooking and being and coming like I like cooking and being and coming like I like cooking and being and coming up with creative things and I'll look in up with creative things and I'll look in up with creative things and I'll look in my pantry and I'll say I have that and my pantry and I'll say I have that and my pantry and I'll say I have that and that H I wonder if I can make a recipe that H I wonder if I can make a recipe that H I wonder if I can make a recipe with that so I I put in chaty PT I say with that so I I put in chaty PT I say with that so I I put in chaty PT I say make me a a dinner recipe using these make me a a dinner recipe using these make me a a dinner recipe using these ingredients so over Christmas I wanted a ingredients so over Christmas I wanted a ingredients so over Christmas I wanted a Snicker doodle but I wanted it to have Snicker doodle but I wanted it to have Snicker doodle but I wanted it to have icing and I wanted it to have like a icing and I wanted it to have like a icing and I wanted it to have like a strudel type of a topping so I said hey strudel type of a topping so I said hey strudel type of a topping so I said hey Chad jpt make me a Snicker doodle recipe Chad jpt make me a Snicker doodle recipe Chad jpt make me a Snicker doodle recipe that has strudel and and icing and it that has strudel and and icing and it that has strudel and and icing and it did and I I I made it and it was great did and I I I made it and it was great did and I I I made it and it was great okay all right very good of course that okay all right very good of course that okay all right very good of course that has nothing to do with church except for has nothing to do with church except for has nothing to do with church except for the fact that if your church need mean the fact that if your church need mean the fact that if your church need mean maybe you do some potluck recipes or maybe you do some potluck recipes or maybe you do some potluck recipes or something for your church I don't know something for your church I don't know something for your church I don't know all kinds of things that you can do um all kinds of things that you can do um all kinds of things that you can do um any any other content creation ideas

any any other content creation ideas any any other content creation ideas that you want to share with pastors and that you want to share with pastors and that you want to share with pastors and you you said said start free is there a you you said said start free is there a you you said said start free is there a point that we should consider paying for point that we should consider paying for point that we should consider paying for using AI tools because more and more of using AI tools because more and more of using AI tools because more and more of them you know my my wife my wife uses them you know my my wife my wife uses them you know my my wife my wife uses Claude all the time and she came running Claude all the time and she came running Claude all the time and she came running into my office the other day and she's into my office the other day and she's into my office the other day and she's like I'm gonna have to get a paid Claude like I'm gonna have to get a paid Claude like I'm gonna have to get a paid Claude account because I'm running into limits account because I'm running into limits account because I'm running into limits on how much I can use it I'm like okay I on how much I can use it I'm like okay I on how much I can use it I'm like okay I guess we have to bite the bullet to do guess we have to bite the bullet to do guess we have to bite the bullet to do that what what's your kind of advice on that what what's your kind of advice on that what what's your kind of advice on when and where we should start spending when and where we should start spending when and where we should start spending money on some of these AI money on some of these AI money on some of these AI resources it's one in a year from now I resources it's one in a year from now I resources it's one in a year from now I might have a different answer but right might have a different answer but right might have a different answer but right this second um chachy bt4 is probably this second um chachy bt4 is probably this second um chachy bt4 is probably your best initial spend um one of the your best initial spend um one of the your best initial spend um one of the benefits of chat GPT 4 is you have benefits of chat GPT 4 is you have benefits of chat GPT 4 is you have access to their image generator you have access to their image generator you have access to their image generator you have access to um you know their best chat access to um you know their best chat access to um you know their best chat GPT chat GPT 4 and you have access to GPT chat GPT 4 and you have access to GPT chat GPT 4 and you have access to like the custom gpts um other people out like the custom gpts um other people out like the custom gpts um other people out there are making custom gpts that do there are making custom gpts that do there are making custom gpts that do things and you could have access to things and you could have access to things and you could have access to those those so it's kind of the best those those so it's kind of the best those those so it's kind of the best value to give you it's to give you the value to give you it's to give you the value to give you it's to give you the ferari or BMW of this present moment is ferari or BMW of this present moment is ferari or BMW of this present moment is for 20 bucks a month um and I would say for 20 bucks a month um and I would say for 20 bucks a month um and I would say as for when I would say start using CH as for when I would say start using CH as for when I would say start using CH chat jpt 3.5 and and using bing.com chat jpt 3.5 and and using bing.com chat jpt 3.5 and and using bing.com create and at some point you're going to create and at some point you're going to create and at some point you're going to say I'm using this a good amount at some say I'm using this a good amount at some say I'm using this a good amount at some point it could be worth dropping the 20

point it could be worth dropping the 20 point it could be worth dropping the 20 bucks um I have access to Chad jpt 4 bucks um I have access to Chad jpt 4 bucks um I have access to Chad jpt 4 and sometime it does create better and sometime it does create better and sometime it does create better images than bing.com create and and any images than bing.com create and and any images than bing.com create and and any of the other image generators out there of the other image generators out there of the other image generators out there it does a better job um as for like when it does a better job um as for like when it does a better job um as for like when I ask it questions I find that typically I ask it questions I find that typically I ask it questions I find that typically when I ask when I ask when I ask questions the type of questions I'm questions the type of questions I'm questions the type of questions I'm asking and the type of questions a asking and the type of questions a asking and the type of questions a pastor is probably going to ask I don't pastor is probably going to ask I don't pastor is probably going to ask I don't know that you're going to get 10 times a know that you're going to get 10 times a know that you're going to get 10 times a better answer from Chad chp4 versus chat better answer from Chad chp4 versus chat better answer from Chad chp4 versus chat chpt 3.5 or paying the 20 bucks that chpt 3.5 or paying the 20 bucks that chpt 3.5 or paying the 20 bucks that might not be worth the 20 bucks now you might not be worth the 20 bucks now you might not be worth the 20 bucks now you mentioned like Claude Claude 2 I you mentioned like Claude Claude 2 I you mentioned like Claude Claude 2 I you know I don't want to go you know we know I don't want to go you know we know I don't want to go you know we don't have time to go into all the don't have time to go into all the don't have time to go into all the whatever all of them are good at but whatever all of them are good at but whatever all of them are good at but Claud 2 the only reason you would spend Claud 2 the only reason you would spend Claud 2 the only reason you would spend the money for Claud 2 is is if you're the money for Claud 2 is is if you're the money for Claud 2 is is if you're running out of like you're asking at so running out of like you're asking at so running out of like you're asking at so much stuff that you're running out of much stuff that you're running out of much stuff that you're running out of space yeah and then you're like oh man space yeah and then you're like oh man space yeah and then you're like oh man it's like yeah yeah I have to pay the 20 it's like yeah yeah I have to pay the 20 it's like yeah yeah I have to pay the 20 bucks uh for that reason yeah yeah uh bucks uh for that reason yeah yeah uh bucks uh for that reason yeah yeah uh any anything else that you wanted to add any anything else that you wanted to add any anything else that you wanted to add before we uh land the plane on this before we uh land the plane on this before we uh land the plane on this episode um I I just say that episode um I I just say that episode um I I just say that it's the funny thing about this episode it's the funny thing about this episode it's the funny thing about this episode is I feel like we could redo this is I feel like we could redo this is I feel like we could redo this episode in six months and it would be a episode in six months and it would be a episode in six months and it would be a totally new discussion it's I think it's totally new discussion it's I think it's totally new discussion it's I think it's just for for pastors out there to

just for for pastors out there to just for for pastors out there to realize that it's a fast-moving realize that it's a fast-moving realize that it's a fast-moving technology but basically to your initial technology but basically to your initial technology but basically to your initial analogy today is the day and this is the analogy today is the day and this is the analogy today is the day and this is the year to go to the store and buy your new year to go to the store and buy your new year to go to the store and buy your new iPhone you know like there's there's not iPhone you know like there's there's not iPhone you know like there's there's not a perfect time it today is the perfect a perfect time it today is the perfect a perfect time it today is the perfect time to get started uh in the new time to get started uh in the new time to get started uh in the new year uh challenge yourself to just if year uh challenge yourself to just if year uh challenge yourself to just if you do one thing sign up for chat GPT you do one thing sign up for chat GPT you do one thing sign up for chat GPT 3.5 it's free use it to ask ask it to 3.5 it's free use it to ask ask it to 3.5 it's free use it to ask ask it to write you a recipe and and it's a great write you a recipe and and it's a great write you a recipe and and it's a great way to to get started for the new year way to to get started for the new year way to to get started for the new year well thanks David uh we will we'll put well thanks David uh we will we'll put well thanks David uh we will we'll put on the calendar six months from now an on the calendar six months from now an on the calendar six months from now an opportunity to kind of do a halfway opportunity to kind of do a halfway opportunity to kind of do a halfway through the year checkin and see what through the year checkin and see what through the year checkin and see what Nostra David has gotten right so far and Nostra David has gotten right so far and Nostra David has gotten right so far and what we're waiting for things to come what we're waiting for things to come what we're waiting for things to come true from Nostra David's predictions um true from Nostra David's predictions um true from Nostra David's predictions um it'll be really interesting to see it'll be really interesting to see it'll be really interesting to see because six months in the world of AI because six months in the world of AI because six months in the world of AI and Technology investment it's probably and Technology investment it's probably and Technology investment it's probably going to be uh quite a bit uh speaking going to be uh quite a bit uh speaking going to be uh quite a bit uh speaking of technology and advancement we have a of technology and advancement we have a of technology and advancement we have a tool at missional marketing uh called tool at missional marketing uh called tool at missional marketing uh called sermon spark if you're a pastor or sermon spark if you're a pastor or sermon spark if you're a pastor or church leader someone who uh writes church leader someone who uh writes church leader someone who uh writes content for sermons or part of the team content for sermons or part of the team content for sermons or part of the team that's creating content for sermons we that's creating content for sermons we that's creating content for sermons we want to encourage you uh to check out want to encourage you uh to check out want to encourage you uh to check out sermons spark. aai an AI tool that we sermons spark. aai an AI tool that we sermons spark. aai an AI tool that we put together uh that can maybe help put together uh that can maybe help put together uh that can maybe help short some of the time of prep that you short some of the time of prep that you short some of the time of prep that you have as a pastor or church leader it's have as a pastor or church leader it's have as a pastor or church leader it's not going to write a sermon for you it's not going to write a sermon for you it's not going to write a sermon for you it's not designed to do that but it will give not designed to do that but it will give not designed to do that but it will give you some tools and access to some I you some tools and access to some I you some tools and access to some I technology that might actually expedite

technology that might actually expedite technology that might actually expedite your process and and really help you your process and and really help you your process and and really help you with your creativity as well and again with your creativity as well and again with your creativity as well and again if you're new to the podcast and you if you're new to the podcast and you if you're new to the podcast and you haven't ever subscribe wherever you're haven't ever subscribe wherever you're haven't ever subscribe wherever you're listening uh or if you're watching on listening uh or if you're watching on listening uh or if you're watching on our YouTube channel make sure that you our YouTube channel make sure that you our YouTube channel make sure that you do that so that you don't miss any do that so that you don't miss any do that so that you don't miss any future episodes uh we're trying to future episodes uh we're trying to future episodes uh we're trying to release an episode every other Friday release an episode every other Friday release an episode every other Friday and uh so we don't want you to miss out and uh so we don't want you to miss out and uh so we don't want you to miss out on the next uh the next great content on the next uh the next great content on the next uh the next great content that we have to share with you uh David that we have to share with you uh David that we have to share with you uh David thanks so much for joining me today and thanks so much for joining me today and thanks so much for joining me today and those of you who are listening in the those of you who are listening in the those of you who are listening in the internet World thanks for being our internet World thanks for being our internet World thanks for being our guests today on the AI for churches