Church Growth Interviews Podcast | Jason & Bart Christmas Special
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well hey there i'm bart blair and i am well hey there i'm bart blair and i am joined on joined on joined on zoom with my friend jason hamrock we are zoom with my friend jason hamrock we are zoom with my friend jason hamrock we are a digital outreach strategist for a digital outreach strategist for a digital outreach strategist for missional marketing and missional marketing and missional marketing and we just love working with churches we just love working with churches we just love working with churches helping churches reach more helping churches reach more helping churches reach more people online jason always a pleasure people online jason always a pleasure people online jason always a pleasure hanging out with you hanging out with you hanging out with you and merry christmas the date of this and merry christmas the date of this and merry christmas the date of this podcast yeah podcast yeah podcast yeah this podcast episode is actually coming this podcast episode is actually coming this podcast episode is actually coming out on christmas day so if you happen to out on christmas day so if you happen to out on christmas day so if you happen to be the one be the one be the one weird person who's listening to a weird person who's listening to a weird person who's listening to a podcast on christmas day podcast on christmas day podcast on christmas day merry christmas wow we need to talk if merry christmas wow we need to talk if merry christmas wow we need to talk if that's you yeah that's you yeah that's you yeah yeah but look look did you do you notice yeah but look look did you do you notice yeah but look look did you do you notice in my my video in my my video in my my video i've i've got a poinsettia over here i've i've got a poinsettia over here i've i've got a poinsettia over here little little drummer boy i was gonna little little drummer boy i was gonna little little drummer boy i was gonna hang some christmas lights on my guitars hang some christmas lights on my guitars hang some christmas lights on my guitars to make it even more festive but i ran to make it even more festive but i ran to make it even more festive but i ran out of time so i i didn't get there out of time so i i didn't get there out of time so i i didn't get there i was gonna put my santa hat on but i was gonna put my santa hat on but i was gonna put my santa hat on but somebody took it so i don't somebody took it so i don't somebody took it so i don't it's okay i have an i have an elf hat it's okay i have an i have an elf hat it's okay i have an i have an elf hat that i was thinking about putting on but that i was thinking about putting on but that i was thinking about putting on but anyway you know what uh i i i asked you anyway you know what uh i i i asked you anyway you know what uh i i i asked you to just do one last episode at first we to just do one last episode at first we to just do one last episode at first we were going to kind of skip the christmas were going to kind of skip the christmas were going to kind of skip the christmas day release and i said no come on let's day release and i said no come on let's day release and i said no come on let's let's let's let's let's record something special for let's record something special for let's record something special for christmas day and let's christmas day and let's christmas day and let's take a few minutes to sort of reflect on take a few minutes to sort of reflect on take a few minutes to sort of reflect on uh 2020.
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uh 2020. uh 2020. um you know a lot of people are trying um you know a lot of people are trying um you know a lot of people are trying to get past it as quickly as possible to get past it as quickly as possible to get past it as quickly as possible want to get to 2021. um you know for the want to get to 2021. um you know for the want to get to 2021. um you know for the most part most part most part i would say as frustrating as cobit has i would say as frustrating as cobit has i would say as frustrating as cobit has been and all of the been and all of the been and all of the things that we've seen happen in the things that we've seen happen in the things that we've seen happen in the local church and all the frustrations local church and all the frustrations local church and all the frustrations i have learned a ton this year and i i have learned a ton this year and i i have learned a ton this year and i have had such a pleasure have had such a pleasure have had such a pleasure working with so many different churches working with so many different churches working with so many different churches over the course of the last you know over the course of the last you know over the course of the last you know nine months or so since covid um that uh nine months or so since covid um that uh nine months or so since covid um that uh it's just it's been really exciting and it's just it's been really exciting and it's just it's been really exciting and i'm really looking forward to 2021 i'm really looking forward to 2021 i'm really looking forward to 2021 so i wanted to spend some time with you so i wanted to spend some time with you so i wanted to spend some time with you today talking about some of the things today talking about some of the things today talking about some of the things that you've learned from that you've learned from that you've learned from 2020 and some of the things that you're 2020 and some of the things that you're 2020 and some of the things that you're looking forward to in 2021 looking forward to in 2021 looking forward to in 2021 um i don't i don't know what the episode um i don't i don't know what the episode um i don't i don't know what the episode number is of this particular podcast but number is of this particular podcast but number is of this particular podcast but i will say this i will say this i will say this we released like one thing we did new in we released like one thing we did new in we released like one thing we did new in 2020 2020 2020 was we launched this podcast right and was we launched this podcast right and was we launched this podcast right and uh your first uh your first uh your first your the first released episode was your the first released episode was your the first released episode was april april april 25th 2020 so we were like a month month 25th 2020 so we were like a month month 25th 2020 so we were like a month month and a half after covet hit and a half after covet hit and a half after covet hit and you had an interview with katie and you had an interview with katie and you had an interview with katie allred from the church communications allred from the church communications allred from the church communications team do you team do you team do you do you remember that did you remember do you remember that did you remember do you remember that did you remember that far back you remember that because that far back you remember that because that far back you remember that because katie's amazing and katie's amazing and katie's amazing and she does so many cool things to help the she does so many cool things to help the she does so many cool things to help the church grow and church grow and church grow and she's got this you know church she's got this you know church she's got this you know church communications facebook group of 25 communications facebook group of 25 communications facebook group of 25 000. it's one of the largest groups in 000. it's one of the largest groups in 000. it's one of the largest groups in facebook there facebook there facebook there and she she's doing amazing stuff and she she's doing amazing stuff and she she's doing amazing stuff kenny's doing amazing stuff but kenny's doing amazing stuff but kenny's doing amazing stuff but that was a that was a fun podcast i mean that was a that was a fun podcast i mean that was a that was a fun podcast i mean you recorded that you recorded that you recorded that i think like right around the time that i think like right around the time that i think like right around the time that covet
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covet covet started and at that time i don't think started and at that time i don't think started and at that time i don't think it was impossible it was impossible for it was impossible it was impossible for it was impossible it was impossible for us to know us to know us to know what the whole year was going to end up what the whole year was going to end up what the whole year was going to end up looking like so looking like so looking like so you've done some great episodes you've you've done some great episodes you've you've done some great episodes you've had some fantastic interviews over the had some fantastic interviews over the had some fantastic interviews over the course of the last course of the last course of the last uh nine months or eight months or so uh nine months or eight months or so uh nine months or eight months or so some of them have been with some of them have been with some of them have been with pastors and church leaders of churches pastors and church leaders of churches pastors and church leaders of churches that we get the opportunity to work with that we get the opportunity to work with that we get the opportunity to work with some have been from other agencies and some have been from other agencies and some have been from other agencies and other organizations that are doing great other organizations that are doing great other organizations that are doing great things in the local church things in the local church things in the local church i wanted to highlight for this episode i wanted to highlight for this episode i wanted to highlight for this episode just a few things that we have coming up just a few things that we have coming up just a few things that we have coming up early on the podcast in 2021 early on the podcast in 2021 early on the podcast in 2021 we've got an interview with um chris we've got an interview with um chris we've got an interview with um chris sarat sarat sarat from lifeway who is a discipleship from lifeway who is a discipleship from lifeway who is a discipleship expert you're gonna be uh talking with expert you're gonna be uh talking with expert you're gonna be uh talking with him about him about him about online discipleship and leveraging online discipleship and leveraging online discipleship and leveraging virtual virtual virtual technology uh like zoom and what have technology uh like zoom and what have technology uh like zoom and what have you for you for you for uh for for discipleship purposes um uh for for discipleship purposes um uh for for discipleship purposes um we've got uh mark mcdonald who is a we've got uh mark mcdonald who is a we've got uh mark mcdonald who is a church branding church branding church branding expert um be known for something is the expert um be known for something is the expert um be known for something is the name of his agency it's also the name of name of his agency it's also the name of name of his agency it's also the name of a book that he wrote and mark a book that he wrote and mark a book that he wrote and mark we're going to talk about how churches we're going to talk about how churches we're going to talk about how churches can really leverage their brand what can really leverage their brand what can really leverage their brand what they're known for they're known for they're known for online and in their community you online and in their community you online and in their community you mentioned kenny from the church mentioned kenny from the church mentioned kenny from the church communications team kenny jong communications team kenny jong communications team kenny jong is going to be a guest here in just a is going to be a guest here in just a is going to be a guest here in just a few weeks uh few weeks uh few weeks uh tim goodyear from home point ministries tim goodyear from home point ministries tim goodyear from home point ministries uh we've got a whole bunch of uh we've got a whole bunch of uh we've got a whole bunch of people like on the docket for the new people like on the docket for the new people like on the docket for the new year year year it's gonna be very exciting and uh i'm it's gonna be very exciting and uh i'm it's gonna be very exciting and uh i'm looking forward to hearing more and more looking forward to hearing more and more looking forward to hearing more and more of your interviews you're getting good of your interviews you're getting good of your interviews you're getting good at this right you feel like you're at this right you feel like you're at this right you feel like you're getting good at it you know what
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getting good at it you know what getting good at it you know what you need to if you haven't done so you need to if you haven't done so you need to if you haven't done so subscribe subscribe to it subscribe subscribe to it subscribe subscribe to it because we do have a stellar lineup and because we do have a stellar lineup and because we do have a stellar lineup and it's going to keep growing and and it's going to keep growing and and it's going to keep growing and and i'm really excited about the well of i'm really excited about the well of i'm really excited about the well of course the future of the church course the future of the church course the future of the church because it's this is not our church it's because it's this is not our church it's because it's this is not our church it's god's church we just get to be a part of god's church we just get to be a part of god's church we just get to be a part of it and i'm really excited about where it and i'm really excited about where it and i'm really excited about where all the digital all the digital all the digital thing you know digital storefronts thing you know digital storefronts thing you know digital storefronts coming up it's we're headed down a path coming up it's we're headed down a path coming up it's we're headed down a path where the church is is now leaning more where the church is is now leaning more where the church is is now leaning more into digital into digital into digital when i say the church i'm talking about when i say the church i'm talking about when i say the church i'm talking about this big c church and all the this big c church and all the this big c church and all the the brains and the power that's fueled the brains and the power that's fueled the brains and the power that's fueled by the holy spirit is now speaking into by the holy spirit is now speaking into by the holy spirit is now speaking into how can we do how can we do how can we do church in the you know in 2021 digitally church in the you know in 2021 digitally church in the you know in 2021 digitally speaking and it's speaking and it's speaking and it's fun to be a part of this conversation so fun to be a part of this conversation so fun to be a part of this conversation so we're going to be rolling that out as we're going to be rolling that out as we're going to be rolling that out as the year goes along and so the year goes along and so the year goes along and so subscribe to it and make sure you invite subscribe to it and make sure you invite subscribe to it and make sure you invite some friends to if they haven't some friends to if they haven't some friends to if they haven't tuned into the missional marketing tuned into the missional marketing tuned into the missional marketing podcast invite your friends to subscribe podcast invite your friends to subscribe podcast invite your friends to subscribe as well as well as well yeah and leave us a rating leave us a yeah and leave us a rating leave us a yeah and leave us a rating leave us a review wherever review wherever review wherever you listen to or watch your podcast to you listen to or watch your podcast to you listen to or watch your podcast to help more help more help more more people find it we'd really more people find it we'd really more people find it we'd really appreciate that um if you also appreciate that um if you also appreciate that um if you also if you're listening to this or you're if you're listening to this or you're if you're listening to this or you're watching this and you actually have watching this and you actually have watching this and you actually have suggestions or ideas about people who suggestions or ideas about people who suggestions or ideas about people who would be great guests for us would be great guests for us would be great guests for us send us an email my email is b blair send us an email my email is b blair send us an email my email is b blair admissionalmarketing.com admissionalmarketing.com admissionalmarketing.com um and fire me an email and let me know um and fire me an email and let me know um and fire me an email and let me know who you think would be who you think would be who you think would be make a great guest and i'll be happy to make a great guest and i'll be happy to make a great guest and i'll be happy to reach out to that person and see if we reach out to that person and see if we reach out to that person and see if we can can can see if we can get something set up if if see if we can get something set up if if see if we can get something set up if if it's a good fit for us so it's a good fit for us so it's a good fit for us so um so jason we're not going to take a um so jason we're not going to take a um so jason we're not going to take a ton of time on this podcast but we have ton of time on this podcast but we have ton of time on this podcast but we have a few things that we just wanted to kind
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a few things that we just wanted to kind a few things that we just wanted to kind of highlight and and i want to ask you of highlight and and i want to ask you of highlight and and i want to ask you first off you know sort of first off you know sort of first off you know sort of big takeaway from 2020 big hope for the big takeaway from 2020 big hope for the big takeaway from 2020 big hope for the local church in 2021 local church in 2021 local church in 2021 as it relates uh to reaching people as it relates uh to reaching people as it relates uh to reaching people online online online leveraging digital presence what's the leveraging digital presence what's the leveraging digital presence what's the first thing that you really first thing that you really first thing that you really think about in terms of sort of big think about in terms of sort of big think about in terms of sort of big takeaways or big hopes for the church takeaways or big hopes for the church takeaways or big hopes for the church this this this next year well a big takeaway this past next year well a big takeaway this past next year well a big takeaway this past year and we all experienced it 100 year and we all experienced it 100 year and we all experienced it 100 of churches experienced it and that is of churches experienced it and that is of churches experienced it and that is an external an external an external force can cause you to have to pivot force can cause you to have to pivot force can cause you to have to pivot something you may not be able to manage something you may not be able to manage something you may not be able to manage your control your control your control and that was coveted kovid caused every and that was coveted kovid caused every and that was coveted kovid caused every church to have to church to have to church to have to switch and think different about how to switch and think different about how to switch and think different about how to do ministry do ministry do ministry right the ministry of god's never gonna right the ministry of god's never gonna right the ministry of god's never gonna stop he stop he stop he that's never gonna never gonna ever stop that's never gonna never gonna ever stop that's never gonna never gonna ever stop but the way you do it but the way you do it but the way you do it is going to have to change and covet is going to have to change and covet is going to have to change and covet caused that to happen caused that to happen caused that to happen and so a lot of churches were not and so a lot of churches were not and so a lot of churches were not prepared for that prepared for that prepared for that so i think a really cool thing that so i think a really cool thing that so i think a really cool thing that happened from this is we all survived it happened from this is we all survived it happened from this is we all survived it right and churches you know churches right and churches you know churches right and churches you know churches leaned into this and they pivoted leaned into this and they pivoted leaned into this and they pivoted successfully pivoted uh but i think successfully pivoted uh but i think successfully pivoted uh but i think thinking about where thinking about where thinking about where it's going in the future who knows if it's going in the future who knows if it's going in the future who knows if this is gonna happen again but i think this is gonna happen again but i think this is gonna happen again but i think what's caused every church to realize is what's caused every church to realize is what's caused every church to realize is we got to have a game plan we got to have a game plan we got to have a game plan got to have a game plan you got to be got to have a game plan you got to be got to have a game plan you got to be thinking about how we do church and the thinking about how we do church and the thinking about how we do church and the and really the the honest answer is we and really the the honest answer is we and really the the honest answer is we just went digital just went digital just went digital every church went digital and so where every church went digital and so where every church went digital and so where churches maybe were talking churches maybe were talking churches maybe were talking about digital i don't know like two
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about digital i don't know like two about digital i don't know like two percent of the time now they're talking percent of the time now they're talking percent of the time now they're talking about like 20 to 30 or 40 about like 20 to 30 or 40 about like 20 to 30 or 40 of the time right they're learning how of the time right they're learning how of the time right they're learning how to do to do to do discipleship better they're learning how discipleship better they're learning how discipleship better they're learning how to reach people to reach people to reach people better all online and so that's better all online and so that's better all online and so that's to me that was probably the biggest to me that was probably the biggest to me that was probably the biggest takeaway of 2020 was takeaway of 2020 was takeaway of 2020 was we were shut down we couldn't meet in we were shut down we couldn't meet in we were shut down we couldn't meet in person but that doesn't mean the church person but that doesn't mean the church person but that doesn't mean the church stops it just means we got to be stops it just means we got to be stops it just means we got to be creative in how we do it creative in how we do it creative in how we do it yeah i i would say that on that note yeah i i would say that on that note yeah i i would say that on that note one of the most exciting things for me one of the most exciting things for me one of the most exciting things for me was really having a front row seat was really having a front row seat was really having a front row seat to seeing what churches are doing you to seeing what churches are doing you to seeing what churches are doing you know you and i have the opportunity to know you and i have the opportunity to know you and i have the opportunity to have conversations with pastors and have conversations with pastors and have conversations with pastors and church leaders you know church leaders you know church leaders you know 15 20 different churches a week between 15 20 different churches a week between 15 20 different churches a week between the two of us sometimes the two of us sometimes the two of us sometimes and you know one of my first questions and you know one of my first questions and you know one of my first questions with churches this whole past year was with churches this whole past year was with churches this whole past year was you know what are you learning what are you know what are you learning what are you know what are you learning what are you trying you trying you trying what are you doing that's new and in what are you doing that's new and in what are you doing that's new and in fact fact fact another episode that you have coming up another episode that you have coming up another episode that you have coming up here actually it's going to be the new here actually it's going to be the new here actually it's going to be the new year's day release is year's day release is year's day release is with colby angstrom from preston trail with colby angstrom from preston trail with colby angstrom from preston trail community church which is my home church community church which is my home church community church which is my home church in frisco texas colby transitioned from in frisco texas colby transitioned from in frisco texas colby transitioned from being being being a student ministry family ministry a student ministry family ministry a student ministry family ministry pastor to being pastor to being pastor to being a church a pastor for church online and a church a pastor for church online and a church a pastor for church online and um you know he and i were meeting um you know he and i were meeting um you know he and i were meeting through the early stages through the early stages through the early stages he's only been doing it for about three he's only been doing it for about three he's only been doing it for about three months right 100 days into this role months right 100 days into this role months right 100 days into this role and just the the volume that he's and just the the volume that he's and just the the volume that he's learned and the different voices that learned and the different voices that learned and the different voices that he's listening to don't miss that he's listening to don't miss that he's listening to don't miss that episode because it's episode because it's episode because it's it's a really good one um you know you it's a really good one um you know you it's a really good one um you know you guys talked about some really insightful
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guys talked about some really insightful guys talked about some really insightful stuff with regards to just stuff with regards to just stuff with regards to just how to leverage what you're doing to how to leverage what you're doing to how to leverage what you're doing to reach people and disciple them online reach people and disciple them online reach people and disciple them online yeah you know where before kovid yeah you know where before kovid yeah you know where before kovid when i would talk to churches about a when i would talk to churches about a when i would talk to churches about a digital digital digital tool or get into the digital space it tool or get into the digital space it tool or get into the digital space it was you know communication director was was you know communication director was was you know communication director was saying saying saying yeah i'm trying to get my leadership yeah i'm trying to get my leadership yeah i'm trying to get my leadership team to recognize what we want to do team to recognize what we want to do team to recognize what we want to do that was always kind of the conversation that was always kind of the conversation that was always kind of the conversation the leadership teams meeting the leadership teams meeting the leadership teams meeting they've got lots of stuff to talk about they've got lots of stuff to talk about they've got lots of stuff to talk about and yeah digital is one little and yeah digital is one little and yeah digital is one little splinter now now it's always splinter now now it's always splinter now now it's always revolving around yeah our leadership revolving around yeah our leadership revolving around yeah our leadership they are coming back from a retreat they are coming back from a retreat they are coming back from a retreat talking about how we're getting the talking about how we're getting the talking about how we're getting the digital space and we're allocating digital space and we're allocating digital space and we're allocating resources resources resources we're allocating money staff you know we're allocating money staff you know we're allocating money staff you know all kinds of time we're talking about all kinds of time we're talking about all kinds of time we're talking about what how that what how that what how that slices into what we're going gonna slices into what we're going gonna slices into what we're going gonna preach on it is preach on it is preach on it is just changed it's revolutionized just changed it's revolutionized just changed it's revolutionized every single church your church is no every single church your church is no every single church your church is no different right colby different right colby different right colby great guy just got to have this awesome great guy just got to have this awesome great guy just got to have this awesome talk with him it's gonna be released talk with him it's gonna be released talk with him it's gonna be released here pretty soon here pretty soon here pretty soon this guy is on it colby has he's been in this guy is on it colby has he's been in this guy is on it colby has he's been in the church role forever he's been at the church role forever he's been at the church role forever he's been at preston for preston for preston for quite a long time but he's in this space quite a long time but he's in this space quite a long time but he's in this space for three months and he is just drinking for three months and he is just drinking for three months and he is just drinking from a fire hose trying to learn how to from a fire hose trying to learn how to from a fire hose trying to learn how to okay what's a digital pastor look like okay what's a digital pastor look like okay what's a digital pastor look like online pastor online pastor online pastor moving into 2021 so i'm excited moving into 2021 so i'm excited moving into 2021 so i'm excited for where those guys are going and all for where those guys are going and all for where those guys are going and all these other churches that are now these other churches that are now these other churches that are now in this space it's it's pretty exciting in this space it's it's pretty exciting in this space it's it's pretty exciting in my opinion it's really exciting in my opinion it's really exciting in my opinion it's really exciting because that's kind of because that's kind of because that's kind of church is our jam and digital is our church is our jam and digital is our church is our jam and digital is our space for right that's what we do
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space for right that's what we do space for right that's what we do exactly church is our jam yeah i like exactly church is our jam yeah i like exactly church is our jam yeah i like that that's pretty good that that's pretty good that that's pretty good it's good i have a question for you okay it's good i have a question for you okay it's good i have a question for you okay so so so uh in this space you know one of the uh in this space you know one of the uh in this space you know one of the things that you've become things that you've become things that you've become incredibly efficient you've learned a incredibly efficient you've learned a incredibly efficient you've learned a ton about is youtube ton about is youtube ton about is youtube and and yes every church is using and and yes every church is using and and yes every church is using facebook every church is using youtube facebook every church is using youtube facebook every church is using youtube to kind of to kind of to kind of show their their weekend services some show their their weekend services some show their their weekend services some are using chop the online you know are using chop the online you know are using chop the online you know church online platform church online platform church online platform but talk a little bit about what you've but talk a little bit about what you've but talk a little bit about what you've learned with with youtube and how learned with with youtube and how learned with with youtube and how churches can leverage youtube churches can leverage youtube churches can leverage youtube yeah jason i think that that's a really yeah jason i think that that's a really yeah jason i think that that's a really interesting point interesting point interesting point um i've learned a ton about youtube in um i've learned a ton about youtube in um i've learned a ton about youtube in the last you know six the last you know six the last you know six to nine months or so most of us to nine months or so most of us to nine months or so most of us have used youtube because we watched have used youtube because we watched have used youtube because we watched videos on youtube videos on youtube videos on youtube right um it had never occurred to me right um it had never occurred to me right um it had never occurred to me to try to figure out how and why to try to figure out how and why to try to figure out how and why uh youtube recommends certain videos to uh youtube recommends certain videos to uh youtube recommends certain videos to me after i watch me after i watch me after i watch certain videos it had never occurred to certain videos it had never occurred to certain videos it had never occurred to me to really try to understand why me to really try to understand why me to really try to understand why when i'm searching for a certain type of when i'm searching for a certain type of when i'm searching for a certain type of video in youtube or even in the google video in youtube or even in the google video in youtube or even in the google platform and i'm looking through videos platform and i'm looking through videos platform and i'm looking through videos why youtube and or google would return why youtube and or google would return why youtube and or google would return the types of videos that it returns for the types of videos that it returns for the types of videos that it returns for me me me and so you know i've done a deep dive and so you know i've done a deep dive and so you know i've done a deep dive over the course of this past over the course of this past over the course of this past year just really trying to learn how to year just really trying to learn how to year just really trying to learn how to optimize videos on a youtube channel optimize videos on a youtube channel optimize videos on a youtube channel so that people who are looking for the so that people who are looking for the so that people who are looking for the kinds of content that kinds of content that kinds of content that i or a church are producing actually can i or a church are producing actually can i or a church are producing actually can find that content
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find that content find that content and one of the most valuable things that and one of the most valuable things that and one of the most valuable things that i've learned is i've learned is i've learned is how to best position your videos to how to best position your videos to how to best position your videos to actually be actually be actually be recommended videos to someone when recommended videos to someone when recommended videos to someone when they're interested in the type of they're interested in the type of they're interested in the type of content that you're creating content that you're creating content that you're creating and the reason this is so important for and the reason this is so important for and the reason this is so important for the local church the local church the local church and this is this is important for the and this is this is important for the and this is this is important for the local church on two different levels local church on two different levels local church on two different levels one is we have the greatest message one is we have the greatest message one is we have the greatest message that's ever been told the opportunity to that's ever been told the opportunity to that's ever been told the opportunity to distribute that distribute that distribute that for free globally on youtube for free globally on youtube for free globally on youtube we have the message of jesus christ the we have the message of jesus christ the we have the message of jesus christ the message of hope message of hope message of hope and a relationship with god a restored and a relationship with god a restored and a relationship with god a restored relationship with god like it's relationship with god like it's relationship with god like it's incredible that we can use this platform incredible that we can use this platform incredible that we can use this platform but the other thing that churches that but the other thing that churches that but the other thing that churches that already have a high level of sensitivity already have a high level of sensitivity already have a high level of sensitivity to the the demographics or the to the the demographics or the to the the demographics or the psychographics of the people that psychographics of the people that psychographics of the people that they're trying to reach they're trying to reach they're trying to reach meaning they understand the people in meaning they understand the people in meaning they understand the people in their community and what their hurts are their community and what their hurts are their community and what their hurts are and what their hang-ups are and what and what their hang-ups are and what and what their hang-ups are and what their needs are their needs are their needs are and they create content for their and they create content for their and they create content for their youtube channel whether that's through youtube channel whether that's through youtube channel whether that's through their sermons their sermons their sermons you know their preaching sermon series you know their preaching sermon series you know their preaching sermon series on on parenting or on on on parenting or on on on parenting or on marriage or on personal finances or on marriage or on personal finances or on marriage or on personal finances or on overcoming discouragement or grief or or overcoming discouragement or grief or or overcoming discouragement or grief or or suffering suffering suffering like these are real life real world like these are real life real world like these are real life real world issues issues issues and when churches are creating this type and when churches are creating this type and when churches are creating this type of content whether that's of content whether that's of content whether that's through their sermons or through other through their sermons or through other through their sermons or through other you know means of creating that video you know means of creating that video you know means of creating that video content content content and they're putting it on youtube there and they're putting it on youtube there and they're putting it on youtube there are things that we can do to are things that we can do to are things that we can do to actually enhance and increase the
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actually enhance and increase the actually enhance and increase the possibility the likelihood possibility the likelihood possibility the likelihood of people finding that content when of people finding that content when of people finding that content when they're looking for it online and so they're looking for it online and so they're looking for it online and so i'm really excited about turning the i'm really excited about turning the i'm really excited about turning the corner into 2021 corner into 2021 corner into 2021 and leveraging the things that i've and leveraging the things that i've and leveraging the things that i've learned to help more churches learned to help more churches learned to help more churches maximize the youtube platform it's not maximize the youtube platform it's not maximize the youtube platform it's not just a place to just a place to just a place to store your sermons as a library it's not store your sermons as a library it's not store your sermons as a library it's not just a place to do your live stream just a place to do your live stream just a place to do your live stream those are valuable tools and or at least those are valuable tools and or at least those are valuable tools and or at least they're valuable they're valuable they're valuable parts of the youtube platform but parts of the youtube platform but parts of the youtube platform but youtube is a search engine youtube is a search engine youtube is a search engine just like google's a search engine it's just like google's a search engine it's just like google's a search engine it's the second largest search engine right the second largest search engine right the second largest search engine right yeah yeah yeah it's the second largest search engine in it's the second largest search engine in it's the second largest search engine in the world and learning how to utilize the world and learning how to utilize the world and learning how to utilize the search the search the search engine aspect of uh of youtube engine aspect of uh of youtube engine aspect of uh of youtube is really going to increase and enhance is really going to increase and enhance is really going to increase and enhance a church's ability a church's ability a church's ability to reach people who are looking for the to reach people who are looking for the to reach people who are looking for the types of content that they're creating types of content that they're creating types of content that they're creating so so so i'm i'm really excited again i said i'm i'm really excited again i said i'm i'm really excited again i said right out of the gate that i've learned right out of the gate that i've learned right out of the gate that i've learned a ton this year and my focus on a ton this year and my focus on a ton this year and my focus on on youtube this year has been one of on youtube this year has been one of on youtube this year has been one of those things that's uh that's been those things that's uh that's been those things that's uh that's been encouraging and exciting for me go ahead i gotta tell you if you're go ahead i gotta tell you if you're listening to this and you listening to this and you listening to this and you have if that's just kind of going whoa i have if that's just kind of going whoa i have if that's just kind of going whoa i had no idea that had no idea that had no idea that youtube could go a little bit deeper i youtube could go a little bit deeper i youtube could go a little bit deeper i just didn't know you need to talk to just didn't know you need to talk to just didn't know you need to talk to bart bart bart you got to talk to bart because he could you got to talk to bart because he could you got to talk to bart because he could help educate you on help educate you on help educate you on what you should be doing so again what you should be doing so again what you should be doing so again uploading your uploading your uploading your video you know your weekend sermon is video you know your weekend sermon is video you know your weekend sermon is fine fine fine but while you're doing that take the but while you're doing that take the but while you're doing that take the extra few steps extra few steps extra few steps right and learn about what you should do
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right and learn about what you should do right and learn about what you should do because that makes all the difference of because that makes all the difference of because that makes all the difference of it being found or not just not only for it being found or not just not only for it being found or not just not only for your people your ring one people your people your ring one people your people your ring one people but this is you really do it for ring but this is you really do it for ring but this is you really do it for ring two and three really reading three two and three really reading three two and three really reading three because of all the felt needs because of all the felt needs because of all the felt needs yeah exactly i think that's that's a yeah exactly i think that's that's a yeah exactly i think that's that's a really good good point jason now i do i really good good point jason now i do i really good good point jason now i do i do want to say you know do want to say you know do want to say you know youtube is is important facebook is youtube is is important facebook is youtube is is important facebook is important the church online platform is important the church online platform is important the church online platform is important so important so important so um to me to be perfectly honest you know um to me to be perfectly honest you know um to me to be perfectly honest you know churches ask me often churches ask me often churches ask me often where where should we do our live stream where where should we do our live stream where where should we do our live stream i say yes i say yes i say yes that's the answer to that question why that's the answer to that question why that's the answer to that question why would you limit yourself to any one would you limit yourself to any one would you limit yourself to any one platform platform platform when literally at the push of a button when literally at the push of a button when literally at the push of a button you can actually distribute to all of you can actually distribute to all of you can actually distribute to all of those different platforms because those different platforms because those different platforms because different people are going to experience different people are going to experience different people are going to experience the church online the church online the church online in a different way like some people the in a different way like some people the in a different way like some people the easiest way to do it is facebook for easiest way to do it is facebook for easiest way to do it is facebook for some people the easiest way to do it is some people the easiest way to do it is some people the easiest way to do it is through youtube through youtube through youtube for some people the easiest way to do it for some people the easiest way to do it for some people the easiest way to do it is through the church online platform is through the church online platform is through the church online platform yes it's a little more to get set up and yes it's a little more to get set up and yes it's a little more to get set up and it is a little bit more to maintain but it is a little bit more to maintain but it is a little bit more to maintain but in the long run we want to make sure in the long run we want to make sure in the long run we want to make sure that we're not doing anything to prevent that we're not doing anything to prevent that we're not doing anything to prevent our message from getting out to the our message from getting out to the our message from getting out to the people that we're trying to connect with people that we're trying to connect with people that we're trying to connect with so so so the answer to that question is yes use the answer to that question is yes use the answer to that question is yes use all of them but once those videos are all of them but once those videos are all of them but once those videos are online on youtube online on youtube online on youtube there's a lot that you can do to there's a lot that you can do to there's a lot that you can do to optimize them to make sure that more optimize them to make sure that more optimize them to make sure that more people can find them people can find them people can find them let me follow up that question from you let me follow up that question from you let me follow up that question from you jason with another question because jason with another question because jason with another question because one of the things that i was sort of one of the things that i was sort of one of the things that i was sort of hitting on was this idea of hitting on was this idea of hitting on was this idea of creating these real life the creating these real life the creating these real life the real life content felt need uh
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real life content felt need uh real life content felt need uh content through sermons or other content through sermons or other content through sermons or other mechanisms mechanisms mechanisms um one of the things that we talk about um one of the things that we talk about um one of the things that we talk about a lot you've said this on this podcast a lot you've said this on this podcast a lot you've said this on this podcast about about about 43 times this in in season one year one 43 times this in in season one year one 43 times this in in season one year one whatever we're calling this whatever we're calling this whatever we're calling this the content is king and we really want the content is king and we really want the content is king and we really want to see to see to see and help churches leverage the content and help churches leverage the content and help churches leverage the content on their website on their website on their website to reach more people online why don't to reach more people online why don't to reach more people online why don't you share a little bit about just sort you share a little bit about just sort you share a little bit about just sort of what you're seeing of what you're seeing of what you're seeing what you hope to see what some some of what you hope to see what some some of what you hope to see what some some of the highlights are the highlights are the highlights are for leveraging the content that's on our for leveraging the content that's on our for leveraging the content that's on our website for website for website for for reaching people in our community for reaching people in our community for reaching people in our community yeah well well if youtube is the second yeah well well if youtube is the second yeah well well if youtube is the second largest search engine guess what the largest search engine guess what the largest search engine guess what the number one number one number one large search engine is google large search engine is google large search engine is google google and why is that okay so we i google and why is that okay so we i google and why is that okay so we i always talk about google because google always talk about google because google always talk about google because google owns 92 percent of the market share what owns 92 percent of the market share what owns 92 percent of the market share what that means is out of 10 people who's that means is out of 10 people who's that means is out of 10 people who's you know go online to do something some you know go online to do something some you know go online to do something some kind of a search using a search engine kind of a search using a search engine kind of a search using a search engine nine out of 10 people use google okay so nine out of 10 people use google okay so nine out of 10 people use google okay so that's why we talk about google all the that's why we talk about google all the that's why we talk about google all the time time time you really want to optimize your website you really want to optimize your website you really want to optimize your website that if you think about it that if you think about it that if you think about it and i just had a conversation with a and i just had a conversation with a and i just had a conversation with a church in florida this morning church in florida this morning church in florida this morning explaining this to them explaining this to them explaining this to them to i was talking leadership in the elder to i was talking leadership in the elder to i was talking leadership in the elder board that board that board that your uh you know your number one your uh you know your number one your uh you know your number one number one way to grow your church hands number one way to grow your church hands number one way to grow your church hands down your own people down your own people down your own people right we're not gonna ever ever try and right we're not gonna ever ever try and right we're not gonna ever ever try and say otherwise your own people are the say otherwise your own people are the say otherwise your own people are the best way to grow your church best way to grow your church best way to grow your church the second best way though these days is the second best way though these days is the second best way though these days is your website
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your website your website it is the front door to your church it it is the front door to your church it it is the front door to your church it really is people will check you out really is people will check you out really is people will check you out online before ever checking out in online before ever checking out in online before ever checking out in person person person usually almost always right there's rare usually almost always right there's rare usually almost always right there's rare occasions for that occasions for that occasions for that so making sure you're optimizing and so making sure you're optimizing and so making sure you're optimizing and building your website building your website building your website is so important not only for ring two of is so important not only for ring two of is so important not only for ring two of people looking for a church people looking for a church people looking for a church but ring three people we just talked but ring three people we just talked but ring three people we just talked about these are people searching for about these are people searching for about these are people searching for help with a felt need help with a felt need help with a felt need so they're looking for like ways to so they're looking for like ways to so they're looking for like ways to enhance or fix their marriage or enhance or fix their marriage or enhance or fix their marriage or overcome a divorce or overcome a divorce or overcome a divorce or deal with an addiction or be a better deal with an addiction or be a better deal with an addiction or be a better parent or deal with their finances or parent or deal with their finances or parent or deal with their finances or overcome grief overcome grief overcome grief they're looking for how to be forgiven i they're looking for how to be forgiven i they're looking for how to be forgiven i could go on and on and on and on could go on and on and on and on could go on and on and on and on that's felt need topics and felt need that's felt need topics and felt need that's felt need topics and felt need content content content and what's really fun for me these days and what's really fun for me these days and what's really fun for me these days is is is talking to churches especially during talking to churches especially during talking to churches especially during 2020 here and moving into 21 2020 here and moving into 21 2020 here and moving into 21 is leadership is understanding this that is leadership is understanding this that is leadership is understanding this that content is king it's not content is king it's not content is king it's not the king we know who he is but it is the king we know who he is but it is the king we know who he is but it is king when it comes online and we're not king when it comes online and we're not king when it comes online and we're not talking talking talking adding more images we're not talking adding more images we're not talking adding more images we're not talking about pdfs we're not talking about about pdfs we're not talking about about pdfs we're not talking about videos videos videos we're talking about content text on your we're talking about content text on your we're talking about content text on your website website website and optimizing that content to be found and optimizing that content to be found and optimizing that content to be found organically organically organically not only around you know just around you not only around you know just around you not only around you know just around you but if you have that content online you but if you have that content online you but if you have that content online you can use things like the google ad grant can use things like the google ad grant can use things like the google ad grant will do well that will deliver ads for will do well that will deliver ads for will do well that will deliver ads for you because google's looking at the url you because google's looking at the url you because google's looking at the url you're wanting to send that traffic to you're wanting to send that traffic to you're wanting to send that traffic to and saying oh and saying oh and saying oh you must be an authority on what it you must be an authority on what it you must be an authority on what it means to be forgiven because you have a
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means to be forgiven because you have a means to be forgiven because you have a page page page optimized around how to be forgiven optimized around how to be forgiven optimized around how to be forgiven right google sees that right now you right google sees that right now you right google sees that right now you most churches don't have that kind of most churches don't have that kind of most churches don't have that kind of content content content they preach about it every week almost they preach about it every week almost they preach about it every week almost but they don't optimize their website but they don't optimize their website but they don't optimize their website well i'm seeing i'm seeing a change i'm well i'm seeing i'm seeing a change i'm well i'm seeing i'm seeing a change i'm seeing we're turning the corner if you seeing we're turning the corner if you seeing we're turning the corner if you will will will that churches are actually talking about that churches are actually talking about that churches are actually talking about this and we actually have products this and we actually have products this and we actually have products around this right we can around this right we can around this right we can talk to you about real-life landing talk to you about real-life landing talk to you about real-life landing pages we got more than 70 pages built pages we got more than 70 pages built pages we got more than 70 pages built around around around felt need real life pages felt need real life pages felt need real life pages stuff that people are talking about and stuff that people are talking about and stuff that people are talking about and more importantly what people are more importantly what people are more importantly what people are googling googling googling people are googling this stuff they may people are googling this stuff they may people are googling this stuff they may or may not be involved in a church they or may not be involved in a church they or may not be involved in a church they may or may not be christ followers but may or may not be christ followers but may or may not be christ followers but they they they are looking for help and we can get this are looking for help and we can get this are looking for help and we can get this deployed for your church deployed for your church deployed for your church that's a big big tool that we deployed that's a big big tool that we deployed that's a big big tool that we deployed this year this year this year because i we have been preaching for because i we have been preaching for because i we have been preaching for years now and churches are starting to years now and churches are starting to years now and churches are starting to really really really get the under they understand this that get the under they understand this that get the under they understand this that content is so important for your website content is so important for your website content is so important for your website so that's something that we are uh super so that's something that we are uh super so that's something that we are uh super excited about because it absolutely excited about because it absolutely excited about because it absolutely matters matters matters 92 percent 92 of people are using google 92 percent 92 of people are using google 92 percent 92 of people are using google and they are searching for help they're and they are searching for help they're and they are searching for help they're looking for looking for looking for this and if you don't if you if you're this and if you don't if you if you're this and if you don't if you if you're not found online i would chur not found online i would chur not found online i would chur if you're doing this right now you're if you're doing this right now you're if you're doing this right now you're watching us on christmas day okay cool watching us on christmas day okay cool watching us on christmas day okay cool but listen if you want to go ahead and but listen if you want to go ahead and but listen if you want to go ahead and just google just google just google how to be forgiven and you tell me you how to be forgiven and you tell me you how to be forgiven and you tell me you can email me or email bart can email me or email bart can email me or email bart the first a church you find in that list the first a church you find in that list the first a church you find in that list i'm gonna guess it's probably three or
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i'm gonna guess it's probably three or i'm gonna guess it's probably three or four or five pages deep four or five pages deep four or five pages deep maybe before you find a church are you maybe before you find a church are you maybe before you find a church are you kidding me really kidding me really kidding me really and and then go look at your church and and then go look at your church and and then go look at your church website do you have a page that's been website do you have a page that's been website do you have a page that's been optimized around optimized around optimized around who is jesus or how to be forgiven or who is jesus or how to be forgiven or who is jesus or how to be forgiven or how to what is salvation how to what is salvation how to what is salvation any of that which is the most important any of that which is the most important any of that which is the most important thing we should be stressing is your thing we should be stressing is your thing we should be stressing is your personal relationship with jesus christ personal relationship with jesus christ personal relationship with jesus christ and if you haven't accepted him like and if you haven't accepted him like and if you haven't accepted him like that's what we should be talking about that's what we should be talking about that's what we should be talking about on our website on our website on our website the most important thing not the only the most important thing not the only the most important thing not the only thing but one of the most important thing but one of the most important thing but one of the most important things things things so you tell us if that's actually being so you tell us if that's actually being so you tell us if that's actually being found in your organic search results found in your organic search results found in your organic search results around you around your church campus around you around your church campus around you around your church campus right that's what we want to get into right that's what we want to get into right that's what we want to get into because there's people out there right because there's people out there right because there's people out there right now that are searching for that kind of now that are searching for that kind of now that are searching for that kind of hope hope hope and they're not finding you and that and they're not finding you and that and they're not finding you and that breaks my heart breaks my heart breaks my heart so that's why we exist as a company we so that's why we exist as a company we so that's why we exist as a company we really want to help you connect with really want to help you connect with really want to help you connect with somebody who's searching for god somebody who's searching for god somebody who's searching for god and that i think they should find your and that i think they should find your and that i think they should find your local church local church local church i could go on and on yes you could i could go on and on yes you could i could go on and on yes you could you know that's that's that's actually you know that's that's that's actually you know that's that's that's actually very very well said jason very very well said jason very very well said jason i think that uh you know we have a i think that uh you know we have a i think that uh you know we have a tendency in the local church and as tendency in the local church and as tendency in the local church and as a pastor i've been guilty of this myself a pastor i've been guilty of this myself a pastor i've been guilty of this myself is thinking about is thinking about is thinking about our website as being a brochure our website as being a brochure our website as being a brochure for what we do um but we don't have for what we do um but we don't have for what we do um but we don't have enough enough enough content on our website about content on our website about content on our website about who jesus is and why it matters who jesus is and why it matters who jesus is and why it matters and we do actually oftentimes because we and we do actually oftentimes because we and we do actually oftentimes because we have an embedded have an embedded have an embedded vimeo video from our servants
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vimeo video from our servants vimeo video from our servants but that doesn't help google direct but that doesn't help google direct but that doesn't help google direct people to those pages people to those pages people to those pages so um yeah what what you said is is is so um yeah what what you said is is is so um yeah what what you said is is is very well said very well said very well said um if you have found value in um if you have found value in um if you have found value in our podcast uh we appreciate you tuning our podcast uh we appreciate you tuning our podcast uh we appreciate you tuning in in in uh if you i i bet i'm gonna i'm gonna go uh if you i i bet i'm gonna i'm gonna go uh if you i i bet i'm gonna i'm gonna go on a limb here on a limb here on a limb here okay i'm gonna bet earl ricker is okay i'm gonna bet earl ricker is okay i'm gonna bet earl ricker is listening to this on christmas day listening to this on christmas day listening to this on christmas day what do you think i think we'll listen what do you think i think we'll listen what do you think i think we'll listen to that christmas earl's one of our to that christmas earl's one of our to that christmas earl's one of our leaders at our company and i leaders at our company and i leaders at our company and i uh i think he probably will be because uh i think he probably will be because uh i think he probably will be because he might he might listen to it on he might he might listen to it on he might he might listen to it on christmas day so earl if you're christmas day so earl if you're christmas day so earl if you're listening to this on christmas day merry listening to this on christmas day merry listening to this on christmas day merry christmas earl christmas earl christmas earl jason i wish you a merry christmas um jason i wish you a merry christmas um jason i wish you a merry christmas um otherwise otherwise otherwise if you're a listener uh whether you just if you're a listener uh whether you just if you're a listener uh whether you just this is the first this is the first this is the first episode that you've just kind of episode that you've just kind of episode that you've just kind of stumbled upon we thank you for stumbled upon we thank you for stumbled upon we thank you for spending your time with us we want to spending your time with us we want to spending your time with us we want to wish you and your family wish you and your family wish you and your family um and your church community a very um and your church community a very um and your church community a very merry christmas merry christmas merry christmas and an amazing new year and uh jason and an amazing new year and uh jason and an amazing new year and uh jason and i uh would be happy to connect with and i uh would be happy to connect with and i uh would be happy to connect with you you you in the new year if there's anything that in the new year if there's anything that in the new year if there's anything that we can do uh to serve you to serve your we can do uh to serve you to serve your we can do uh to serve you to serve your church to help you reach church to help you reach church to help you reach more people and bring more people into a more people and bring more people into a more people and bring more people into a personal relationship with jesus that's personal relationship with jesus that's personal relationship with jesus that's really important to us really important to us really important to us we hope that that comes across we're we hope that that comes across we're we hope that that comes across we're really passionate about what we really passionate about what we really passionate about what we get to do and feel really privileged to get to do and feel really privileged to get to do and feel really privileged to have the opportunity to work with have the opportunity to work with have the opportunity to work with churches churches churches and really help them in this particular and really help them in this particular and really help them in this particular area i area i area i love speaking with churches and just love speaking with churches and just love speaking with churches and just educating and informing them educating and informing them educating and informing them it really that just really motivates me
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it really that just really motivates me it really that just really motivates me it fills my heart it's not about trying it fills my heart it's not about trying it fills my heart it's not about trying to to to help you you know hire us that's not help you you know hire us that's not help you you know hire us that's not what we want what we want what we want we really want to just educate and we really want to just educate and we really want to just educate and inform you and if and just let you know inform you and if and just let you know inform you and if and just let you know these are the tools this is what you these are the tools this is what you these are the tools this is what you should be doing to reach more people should be doing to reach more people should be doing to reach more people that are far from god that are far from god that are far from god we're not going to hide that we're going we're not going to hide that we're going we're not going to hide that we're going to tell you all the tools we use and how to tell you all the tools we use and how to tell you all the tools we use and how we do we do we do go about doing it and if it makes sense go about doing it and if it makes sense go about doing it and if it makes sense to hire us or hire somebody locally we to hire us or hire somebody locally we to hire us or hire somebody locally we don't really care as long as you're don't really care as long as you're don't really care as long as you're doing it because it's going to help you doing it because it's going to help you doing it because it's going to help you reach reach reach more people and that's that's the that's more people and that's that's the that's more people and that's that's the that's the goal the goal the goal at the end of the day we want to keep at the end of the day we want to keep at the end of the day we want to keep more people to god absolutely jason we're going to wrap absolutely jason we're going to wrap this up i'm going to give two other this up i'm going to give two other this up i'm going to give two other shout outs here number one i'm going to shout outs here number one i'm going to shout outs here number one i'm going to say say say i want to thank cindy who's a part of i want to thank cindy who's a part of i want to thank cindy who's a part of our team who cleans up these transcripts our team who cleans up these transcripts our team who cleans up these transcripts every time we record these videos and every time we record these videos and every time we record these videos and randall who randall who randall who puts all the nuggets and the pieces puts all the nuggets and the pieces puts all the nuggets and the pieces together with these videos together with these videos together with these videos so that we can push them out on time so so that we can push them out on time so so that we can push them out on time so that people can watch them or that people can watch them or that people can watch them or he also pushes them out into the the he also pushes them out into the the he also pushes them out into the the podcast world with itunes and google podcast world with itunes and google podcast world with itunes and google music and all that stuff so music and all that stuff so music and all that stuff so cindy and randall thanks for the work cindy and randall thanks for the work cindy and randall thanks for the work that you guys do to that you guys do to that you guys do to take this little thing that we do this take this little thing that we do this take this little thing that we do this zoom call and make it public zoom call and make it public zoom call and make it public um that's all i got jason i appreciate um that's all i got jason i appreciate um that's all i got jason i appreciate you want to wish you and your family a you want to wish you and your family a you want to wish you and your family a merry christmas likewise bart i merry christmas likewise bart i merry christmas likewise bart i appreciate you and i appreciate the fact appreciate you and i appreciate the fact appreciate you and i appreciate the fact that we get to do this i mean this is so that we get to do this i mean this is so that we get to do this i mean this is so much fun to be able to do this much fun to be able to do this much fun to be able to do this for you know i can't we get paid to do for you know i can't we get paid to do for you know i can't we get paid to do this right and it's so much fun just to this right and it's so much fun just to this right and it's so much fun just to be able to share be able to share be able to share and help churches get better and we got
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and help churches get better and we got and help churches get better and we got a great team at mission a great team at mission a great team at mission marketing uh super proud of them and marketing uh super proud of them and marketing uh super proud of them and here's to here's to here's to 2021 and uh god's up to some great 2021 and uh god's up to some great 2021 and uh god's up to some great things and things and things and we get to be we get to just have a front we get to be we get to just have a front we get to be we get to just have a front row seat of what he's doing that row seat of what he's doing that row seat of what he's doing that to me is a blessing so merry christmas to me is a blessing so merry christmas to me is a blessing so merry christmas and happy new year my friend and happy new year my friend and happy new year my friend back to you amen
Summary
This podcast episode reflects on the challenges and lessons learned in 2020, particularly for churches adapting to online outreach. Key subjects include digital outreach strategies, the impact of COVID-19 on ministry, and the launch of their podcast. The takeaway is that despite frustrations, significant learning has occurred, fostering anticipation for continued growth and engagement in 2021.