Ep. 26 | Discussing Google Genie 3 | David and Katie

Hi everyone. You're here with Katy Alred Hi everyone. You're here with Katy Alred and myself, David Thorne. And uh and myself, David Thorne. And uh and myself, David Thorne. And uh something just came out and we just something just came out and we just something just came out and we just wanted to jump on and do a podcast and wanted to jump on and do a podcast and wanted to jump on and do a podcast and share some news that Google just share some news that Google just share some news that Google just dropped. dropped. dropped. >> Welcome to the AI for Churches podcast. >> Welcome to the AI for Churches podcast. >> Welcome to the AI for Churches podcast. Our goal is to equip pastors and church Our goal is to equip pastors and church Our goal is to equip pastors and church leaders with resources related to leaders with resources related to leaders with resources related to artificial intelligence, helpful for artificial intelligence, helpful for artificial intelligence, helpful for sermon prep, creative ministries, sermon prep, creative ministries, sermon prep, creative ministries, outreach, and more. We do this by outreach, and more. We do this by outreach, and more. We do this by providing exclusive insights from AI providing exclusive insights from AI providing exclusive insights from AI experts, church leaders, and innovators experts, church leaders, and innovators experts, church leaders, and innovators actively leveraging AI to amplify the actively leveraging AI to amplify the actively leveraging AI to amplify the gospel and reach more people for Jesus gospel and reach more people for Jesus gospel and reach more people for Jesus Christ. Christ. Christ. >> Katie, why don't you tell us what is it >> Katie, why don't you tell us what is it >> Katie, why don't you tell us what is it that Google just dropped that we want to that Google just dropped that we want to that Google just dropped that we want to share today? share today? share today? Yeah. So, Google Genie free just dropped Yeah. So, Google Genie free just dropped Yeah. So, Google Genie free just dropped and and and Genie is an experential and and and Genie is an experential and and and Genie is an experential experience experience experience of it's kind of like VR but with AI. It of it's kind of like VR but with AI. It of it's kind of like VR but with AI. It creates environments that you can uh creates environments that you can uh creates environments that you can uh experience and you know it has memory.

experience and you know it has memory. experience and you know it has memory. So, like if you paint a wall, you can So, like if you paint a wall, you can So, like if you paint a wall, you can walk away from that wall and it's still walk away from that wall and it's still walk away from that wall and it's still painted but it creates new rooms as you painted but it creates new rooms as you painted but it creates new rooms as you walk. Uh it's kind of insane, you know. walk. Uh it's kind of insane, you know. walk. Uh it's kind of insane, you know. >> Yeah. It's one of those things where the >> Yeah. It's one of those things where the >> Yeah. It's one of those things where the reason why we wanted to pause and just reason why we wanted to pause and just reason why we wanted to pause and just share this with church leaders is this share this with church leaders is this share this with church leaders is this is one of those things where this will is one of those things where this will is one of those things where this will impact the church as for when and how. impact the church as for when and how. impact the church as for when and how. It may be a while and we're we're not It may be a while and we're we're not It may be a while and we're we're not even all the way, but this is a big even all the way, but this is a big even all the way, but this is a big deal. And so, um, I feel like the best deal. And so, um, I feel like the best deal. And so, um, I feel like the best thing we could do is just share with you thing we could do is just share with you thing we could do is just share with you Google's actual video that they shared Google's actual video that they shared Google's actual video that they shared about the Genie Genie 3, and then Katie about the Genie Genie 3, and then Katie about the Genie Genie 3, and then Katie and I will will debrief with you and and I will will debrief with you and and I will will debrief with you and talk about what this means and what it talk about what this means and what it talk about what this means and what it could look like for churches. could look like for churches. could look like for churches. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> All right. Let's learn together about >> All right. Let's learn together about >> All right. Let's learn together about what is Google's Genie 3.

what is Google's Genie 3. what is Google's Genie 3. What you're seeing are not games or What you're seeing are not games or What you're seeing are not games or videos. They're worlds. videos. They're worlds. videos. They're worlds. Each one of these is an interactive Each one of these is an interactive Each one of these is an interactive environment generated by Genie3, a new environment generated by Genie3, a new environment generated by Genie3, a new frontier for world models. frontier for world models. frontier for world models. With Genie3, you can use natural With Genie3, you can use natural With Genie3, you can use natural language to generate a variety of worlds language to generate a variety of worlds language to generate a variety of worlds and explore them interactively, all with and explore them interactively, all with and explore them interactively, all with a single text prompt. [Music] [Music] Let's see what it's like to spend some Let's see what it's like to spend some Let's see what it's like to spend some time in a world. time in a world. time in a world. Genie 3 has real-time interactivity, Genie 3 has real-time interactivity, Genie 3 has real-time interactivity, meaning that the environment reacts to meaning that the environment reacts to meaning that the environment reacts to your movements and actions. You're not your movements and actions. You're not your movements and actions. You're not walking through a pre-built simulation. walking through a pre-built simulation. walking through a pre-built simulation. Everything you see here is being Everything you see here is being Everything you see here is being generated live as you explore it. And generated live as you explore it. And generated live as you explore it. And Genie 3 has world memory. That's why Genie 3 has world memory. That's why Genie 3 has world memory. That's why environments like this one stay environments like this one stay environments like this one stay consistent. consistent. consistent. World memory even carries over into your World memory even carries over into your World memory even carries over into your actions. actions. actions. For example, when I'm painting on this For example, when I'm painting on this For example, when I'm painting on this wall, my actions persist. wall, my actions persist. wall, my actions persist. [Music] [Music] [Music] I can look away and generate other parts I can look away and generate other parts I can look away and generate other parts of the world, but when I look back, the of the world, but when I look back, the of the world, but when I look back, the actions I took are still there.

actions I took are still there. actions I took are still there. And Genie 3 enables promptable events, And Genie 3 enables promptable events, And Genie 3 enables promptable events, so you can add new events into your so you can add new events into your so you can add new events into your world on the fly. Something like another world on the fly. Something like another world on the fly. Something like another person person person or transportation. or even something totally unexpected. or even something totally unexpected. You can use Genie to explore real world You can use Genie to explore real world You can use Genie to explore real world physics and movement and all kinds of physics and movement and all kinds of physics and movement and all kinds of unique environments. unique environments. unique environments. You can generate worlds with distinct You can generate worlds with distinct You can generate worlds with distinct geographies, historical settings, geographies, historical settings, geographies, historical settings, fictional environments, and even other fictional environments, and even other fictional environments, and even other characters. We're excited to see how characters. We're excited to see how characters. We're excited to see how Genie 3 can be used for next generation Genie 3 can be used for next generation Genie 3 can be used for next generation gaming and entertainment. And that's gaming and entertainment. And that's gaming and entertainment. And that's just the beginning. just the beginning. just the beginning. Worlds could help with embodied Worlds could help with embodied Worlds could help with embodied research, training robotic agents before research, training robotic agents before research, training robotic agents before working in the real world, or simulating working in the real world, or simulating working in the real world, or simulating dangerous scenarios for disaster dangerous scenarios for disaster dangerous scenarios for disaster preparedness and emergency training. preparedness and emergency training. preparedness and emergency training. World models can open new pathways for World models can open new pathways for World models can open new pathways for learning, agriculture, learning, agriculture, learning, agriculture, manufacturing, manufacturing, manufacturing, and more. and more. and more. We're excited to see how Gen3's world We're excited to see how Gen3's world We're excited to see how Gen3's world simulation can benefit research around simulation can benefit research around simulation can benefit research around the world.

Hey Katie, I want to pause. Let's talk I Hey Katie, I want to pause. Let's talk I want to explain two things that we just want to explain two things that we just want to explain two things that we just that we just talked about. that we just talked about. that we just talked about. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> One was a talk about using text to >> One was a talk about using text to >> One was a talk about using text to generate environments. generate environments. generate environments. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So it's one of those things that you >> So it's one of those things that you >> So it's one of those things that you know people may have just heard that and know people may have just heard that and know people may have just heard that and they're say I don't even know what that they're say I don't even know what that they're say I don't even know what that what does that mean? what does that mean? what does that mean? So do you want to explain that? So do you want to explain that? So do you want to explain that? >> I can. Yeah. So, you know, with any AI, >> I can. Yeah. So, you know, with any AI, >> I can. Yeah. So, you know, with any AI, you have to prompt it. Uh, and so you're you have to prompt it. Uh, and so you're you have to prompt it. Uh, and so you're basically describing what you would like basically describing what you would like basically describing what you would like to create. And so, in this, you're just to create. And so, in this, you're just to create. And so, in this, you're just using words to describe some type of, using words to describe some type of, using words to describe some type of, uh, environment. So, uh, you can see uh, environment. So, uh, you can see uh, environment. So, uh, you can see that they they've typed out a helicopter that they they've typed out a helicopter that they they've typed out a helicopter pilot carefully maneuvering over a pilot carefully maneuvering over a pilot carefully maneuvering over a coastal cliff with a small waterfall. coastal cliff with a small waterfall. coastal cliff with a small waterfall. And now on the right, it has generated And now on the right, it has generated And now on the right, it has generated this interactive world that they can this interactive world that they can this interactive world that they can control the helicopter. They're inside control the helicopter. They're inside control the helicopter. They're inside the helicopter, it looks like, and they the helicopter, it looks like, and they the helicopter, it looks like, and they can now fly can now fly can now fly using the um using their keypad. Well, using the um using their keypad. Well, using the um using their keypad. Well, and and so it it's insane, right? Like and and so it it's insane, right? Like and and so it it's insane, right? Like all this stuff is being autogenerated as all this stuff is being autogenerated as all this stuff is being autogenerated as it's happening, as you turn, as you it's happening, as you turn, as you it's happening, as you turn, as you interact in the world. So yeah, it's a interact in the world. So yeah, it's a interact in the world. So yeah, it's a it's a whole new thing. And it it feels it's a whole new thing. And it it feels it's a whole new thing. And it it feels very video game like what is this uh very video game like what is this uh very video game like what is this uh what does it mean for anybody can do what does it mean for anybody can do what does it mean for anybody can do this now it's not just a video game this now it's not just a video game this now it's not just a video game creator.

creator. creator. >> Yeah. The other thing was your real time >> Yeah. The other thing was your real time >> Yeah. The other thing was your real time interactivity and it mentioned that it interactivity and it mentioned that it interactivity and it mentioned that it is generating the world as you move and is generating the world as you move and is generating the world as you move and I think that's that's helpful to I think that's that's helpful to I think that's that's helpful to understand that's saying as a person is understand that's saying as a person is understand that's saying as a person is moving through whatever world it is moving through whatever world it is moving through whatever world it is creating it is generating creating it is generating creating it is generating that world as a as that person is moving that world as a as that person is moving that world as a as that person is moving in the same way that we're writing words in the same way that we're writing words in the same way that we're writing words into chatt and chatt generates a into chatt and chatt generates a into chatt and chatt generates a response response. It's doing the same response response. It's doing the same response response. It's doing the same thing except instead of generating words thing except instead of generating words thing except instead of generating words or pictures or even video, it's or pictures or even video, it's or pictures or even video, it's generating the full world that the generating the full world that the generating the full world that the person is interacting with person is interacting with person is interacting with >> and it has memory so you can like go >> and it has memory so you can like go >> and it has memory so you can like go back um and interact with it. So it's back um and interact with it. So it's back um and interact with it. So it's it's very interesting. It it means like it's very interesting. It it means like it's very interesting. It it means like in real time as it's like there in real time as it's like there in real time as it's like there they are prompting other events to they are prompting other events to they are prompting other events to happen inside of this world that they happen inside of this world that they happen inside of this world that they have created. Uh like example they have have created. Uh like example they have have created. Uh like example they have this jet ski on the right that came this jet ski on the right that came this jet ski on the right that came through the water. Um through the water. Um through the water. Um David do you have anything else you want David do you have anything else you want David do you have anything else you want to to to >> Yep. The only thing was that yeah the >> Yep. The only thing was that yeah the >> Yep. The only thing was that yeah the memory and that you mentioned that memory and that you mentioned that memory and that you mentioned that already but that what a that picture of already but that what a that picture of already but that what a that picture of somebody painting is just so amazing.

somebody painting is just so amazing. somebody painting is just so amazing. It's just like thinking about the It's just like thinking about the It's just like thinking about the possibilities of what that could mean. possibilities of what that could mean. possibilities of what that could mean. That means as that person walks out of That means as that person walks out of That means as that person walks out of that quote unquote walks out of that that quote unquote walks out of that that quote unquote walks out of that room and would walk back in that room room and would walk back in that room room and would walk back in that room what they painted what how they what they painted what how they what they painted what how they interacted with that environment would interacted with that environment would interacted with that environment would still be there. still be there. still be there. >> And that's a really cool thing in the >> And that's a really cool thing in the >> And that's a really cool thing in the world of video games. If any of you are world of video games. If any of you are world of video games. If any of you are are, you know, old school video game are, you know, old school video game are, you know, old school video game people, there was a time where you could people, there was a time where you could people, there was a time where you could like destroy environments and uh and like destroy environments and uh and like destroy environments and uh and remembering that that that was just such remembering that that that was just such remembering that that that was just such this big amazing thing that at first the this big amazing thing that at first the this big amazing thing that at first the environment you were in was just it environment you were in was just it environment you were in was just it existed. It was like bricks and mortar existed. It was like bricks and mortar existed. It was like bricks and mortar and you couldn't move it. and you couldn't move it. and you couldn't move it. >> And then when they introduced the idea >> And then when they introduced the idea >> And then when they introduced the idea of being able to break the environment, of being able to break the environment, of being able to break the environment, it was such mind-blowing thing. This is it was such mind-blowing thing. This is it was such mind-blowing thing. This is a thousand times beyond that of just a thousand times beyond that of just a thousand times beyond that of just it's literally like a more real version it's literally like a more real version it's literally like a more real version of that that you could do interact with of that that you could do interact with of that that you could do interact with the environment the environment the environment >> and your interactions will stay >> and your interactions will stay >> and your interactions will stay >> as as what you did which is >> as as what you did which is >> as as what you did which is >> pretty crazy isn't it? >> pretty crazy isn't it? >> pretty crazy isn't it? >> It's insane to me. Uh and you know I >> It's insane to me. Uh and you know I >> It's insane to me. Uh and you know I think think think >> like at first I'm like well how will >> like at first I'm like well how will >> like at first I'm like well how will this affect the church? you know, cuz this affect the church? you know, cuz this affect the church? you know, cuz I'm like, will it actually and but I but I'm like, will it actually and but I but I'm like, will it actually and but I but I can see that there's going to be some I can see that there's going to be some I can see that there's going to be some use cases and also like it it's going to use cases and also like it it's going to use cases and also like it it's going to become more common place for this to be become more common place for this to be become more common place for this to be something that people talk about. It something that people talk about. It something that people talk about. It won't just be something that the kids won't just be something that the kids won't just be something that the kids are doing.

are doing. are doing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh it's it's not that yet, but I think >> Uh it's it's not that yet, but I think >> Uh it's it's not that yet, but I think in the next 10 years, we're going to see in the next 10 years, we're going to see in the next 10 years, we're going to see more of it. uh just like Meta, you know, more of it. uh just like Meta, you know, more of it. uh just like Meta, you know, launched um Meta in general, right? Uh launched um Meta in general, right? Uh launched um Meta in general, right? Uh because they believe that this type of because they believe that this type of because they believe that this type of world uh was going to be created. And world uh was going to be created. And world uh was going to be created. And so, yeah, I'm I'm interested to see how so, yeah, I'm I'm interested to see how so, yeah, I'm I'm interested to see how it's going to affect the church. it's going to affect the church. it's going to affect the church. >> Yeah. Well, on that note, let's >> Yeah. Well, on that note, let's >> Yeah. Well, on that note, let's brainstorm and let's start with if they brainstorm and let's start with if they brainstorm and let's start with if they mention some ideas. So, let's talk about mention some ideas. So, let's talk about mention some ideas. So, let's talk about not the church, but just not the church, but just not the church, but just ways that something like this could be ways that something like this could be ways that something like this could be used for fun or just for general work used for fun or just for general work used for fun or just for general work things. So, let's brainstorm there things. So, let's brainstorm there things. So, let's brainstorm there first. What are first. What are first. What are >> what do you think you're going to use it >> what do you think you're going to use it >> what do you think you're going to use it for? for? for? >> What's that? >> What's that? >> What's that? >> What do you think you're going to you >> What do you think you're going to you >> What do you think you're going to you would like to create? would like to create? would like to create? >> Well, okay. I would say just for like >> Well, okay. I would say just for like >> Well, okay. I would say just for like they mentioned this. I feel like the they mentioned this. I feel like the they mentioned this. I feel like the video game people will probably figure video game people will probably figure video game people will probably figure out a way to use this first.

out a way to use this first. out a way to use this first. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> because that's like a a pretty >> because that's like a a pretty >> because that's like a a pretty lowhanging fruit of lowhanging fruit of lowhanging fruit of uh being able to insert playable uh being able to insert playable uh being able to insert playable characters into a generated world. characters into a generated world. characters into a generated world. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that seems like Okay, let's get that >> So, that seems like Okay, let's get that >> So, that seems like Okay, let's get that one out of the way. one out of the way. one out of the way. Uh then as for how my human people use Uh then as for how my human people use Uh then as for how my human people use it, it, it, uh I I I think the the idea of that uh I I I think the the idea of that uh I I I think the the idea of that first comes to mind would be things like first comes to mind would be things like first comes to mind would be things like um HR related stuff. um HR related stuff. um HR related stuff. So, how do you how do you uh like, "Hey, So, how do you how do you uh like, "Hey, So, how do you how do you uh like, "Hey, hey, John. Um, we noticed when you when hey, John. Um, we noticed when you when hey, John. Um, we noticed when you when you told off your boss that kind of hurt you told off your boss that kind of hurt you told off your boss that kind of hurt their feelings and you told them that their feelings and you told them that their feelings and you told them that they were, you know, weird looking and they were, you know, weird looking and they were, you know, weird looking and you didn't like that they were you didn't like that they were you didn't like that they were bald-headed or whatever, you know, bald-headed or whatever, you know, bald-headed or whatever, you know, hypothetically and hypothetically and hypothetically and >> Right. And so, hey, um, >> Right. And so, hey, um, >> Right. And so, hey, um, >> uh, why don't we go into have you just >> uh, why don't we go into have you just >> uh, why don't we go into have you just have a little genie session have a little genie session have a little genie session >> and and and let's have you like talk >> and and and let's have you like talk >> and and and let's have you like talk through that and explore other ways you through that and explore other ways you through that and explore other ways you could have handled that could have handled that could have handled that >> besides calling them, you know, weird >> besides calling them, you know, weird >> besides calling them, you know, weird booking or whatever.

booking or whatever. booking or whatever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that's that's one lowhanging fruit I >> So, that's that's one lowhanging fruit I >> So, that's that's one lowhanging fruit I could see. could see. could see. >> Yeah. Uh, no, I can see that for sure. >> Yeah. Uh, no, I can see that for sure. >> Yeah. Uh, no, I can see that for sure. especially like in HR training and and especially like in HR training and and especially like in HR training and and other types of training because right other types of training because right other types of training because right now all you do is watch a bunch of now all you do is watch a bunch of now all you do is watch a bunch of videos and you select like what you videos and you select like what you videos and you select like what you think you would say and it would be much think you would say and it would be much think you would say and it would be much more useful if you could actually more useful if you could actually more useful if you could actually practice what you're saying. Um, and you practice what you're saying. Um, and you practice what you're saying. Um, and you know if the world's environment could know if the world's environment could know if the world's environment could react to how you're saying it. Uh, I react to how you're saying it. Uh, I react to how you're saying it. Uh, I think that would be really helpful. It think that would be really helpful. It think that would be really helpful. It would be helpful too just to like learn would be helpful too just to like learn would be helpful too just to like learn how to communicate better in general. uh how to communicate better in general. uh how to communicate better in general. uh you know do public speaking like so you you know do public speaking like so you you know do public speaking like so you could like you know generate an audience could like you know generate an audience could like you know generate an audience and try to like not be afraid of the and try to like not be afraid of the and try to like not be afraid of the audience um because you know it's it's a audience um because you know it's it's a audience um because you know it's it's a fake audience that's helpful but it's fake audience that's helpful but it's fake audience that's helpful but it's still an audience and that's scary you still an audience and that's scary you still an audience and that's scary you know. know. know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh and so I think that could be a really >> Uh and so I think that could be a really >> Uh and so I think that could be a really great use. So there's there's definitely great use. So there's there's definitely great use. So there's there's definitely a lot of that and then just like a lot of that and then just like a lot of that and then just like experiencing different cultures and experiencing different cultures and experiencing different cultures and places, places, places, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Yeah, that would definitely be a very >> Yeah, that would definitely be a very >> Yeah, that would definitely be a very very cool thing. very cool thing. very cool thing. of of of >> going to space. >> going to space. >> going to space. >> Yes. Yeah. That's the thing I I I was >> Yes. Yeah. That's the thing I I I was >> Yes. Yeah. That's the thing I I I was going to ask you is going to ask you is going to ask you is where would you want to go? You know, if where would you want to go? You know, if where would you want to go? You know, if if you could generate if you could generate if you could generate something, where would you go first? something, where would you go first? something, where would you go first? >> Where would I go first? If I could >> Where would I go first? If I could >> Where would I go first? If I could generate something, generate something, generate something, >> I think Hogwarts. >> I think Hogwarts. >> I think Hogwarts. >> Yeah. I respect, >> Yeah. I respect, >> Yeah. I respect, >> you know, like how can I generate the >> you know, like how can I generate the >> you know, like how can I generate the magical world of Harry Potter? I don't magical world of Harry Potter? I don't magical world of Harry Potter? I don't know, but it sounds like fun and I think know, but it sounds like fun and I think know, but it sounds like fun and I think we could do that, we could do that, we could do that, >> you know, and I have the video game and >> you know, and I have the video game and >> you know, and I have the video game and stuff, but like you have to do stuff in stuff, but like you have to do stuff in stuff, but like you have to do stuff in the video. Like I would rather just be the video. Like I would rather just be the video. Like I would rather just be able to like explore it and I think able to like explore it and I think able to like explore it and I think being able to explore it, you know, as being able to explore it, you know, as being able to explore it, you know, as myself would be really interesting. jump myself would be really interesting. jump myself would be really interesting. jump on your Nimbus 2000 or whatever and go on your Nimbus 2000 or whatever and go on your Nimbus 2000 or whatever and go after after after >> the Quackle or whatever it's called the >> the Quackle or whatever it's called the >> the Quackle or whatever it's called the that and you play your broomstick game.

that and you play your broomstick game. that and you play your broomstick game. Uh yeah, that's a good one. Uh yeah, that's a good one. Uh yeah, that's a good one. >> Yeah. What about you? >> Yeah. What about you? >> Yeah. What about you? >> I >> I >> I I I I Well, I I like Hogwarts, but I also do Well, I I like Hogwarts, but I also do Well, I I like Hogwarts, but I also do like like video games. So, there's like like video games. So, there's like like video games. So, there's probably various video games. It would probably various video games. It would probably various video games. It would be great to have a more immersive be great to have a more immersive be great to have a more immersive experience as and I it could be any of experience as and I it could be any of experience as and I it could be any of them. Uh them. Uh them. Uh >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> that could be Batman playing in the >> that could be Batman playing in the >> that could be Batman playing in the video game Halo. I mean, name your video game Halo. I mean, name your video game Halo. I mean, name your classic classic classic >> hitting people. Yeah. Um now some people >> hitting people. Yeah. Um now some people >> hitting people. Yeah. Um now some people might might say that and say, "Yeah, but might might say that and say, "Yeah, but might might say that and say, "Yeah, but is it is that real? Would it feel real?" is it is that real? Would it feel real?" is it is that real? Would it feel real?" And I'll say uh you know a lot of people And I'll say uh you know a lot of people And I'll say uh you know a lot of people have bought Meta's Quest Quest two which have bought Meta's Quest Quest two which have bought Meta's Quest Quest two which is the goggles and it has like little is the goggles and it has like little is the goggles and it has like little hand joysticks that you hold and if you hand joysticks that you hold and if you hand joysticks that you hold and if you are on the internet at all if you are on are on the internet at all if you are on are on the internet at all if you are on Instagram, Tik Tok or whatever at some Instagram, Tik Tok or whatever at some Instagram, Tik Tok or whatever at some point or maybe it's just me and this is point or maybe it's just me and this is point or maybe it's just me and this is ex you know uh you know giving ex you know uh you know giving ex you know uh you know giving information about my algorithms but at information about my algorithms but at information about my algorithms but at some point you'll see videos of people some point you'll see videos of people some point you'll see videos of people who are wearing those and like are who are wearing those and like are who are wearing those and like are running into TVs, running into walls, or running into TVs, running into walls, or running into TVs, running into walls, or terrified to fall off of a building. Um, terrified to fall off of a building. Um, terrified to fall off of a building. Um, and I love those videos. They make me and I love those videos. They make me and I love those videos. They make me laugh all the time. There's no nothing laugh all the time. There's no nothing laugh all the time. There's no nothing funnier to me than I don't know, people funnier to me than I don't know, people funnier to me than I don't know, people running into things or or falling down.

running into things or or falling down. running into things or or falling down. Um, do do you see those videos, Katie, Um, do do you see those videos, Katie, Um, do do you see those videos, Katie, or is it just me? or is it just me? or is it just me? >> I think it's just you, but I have seen >> I think it's just you, but I have seen >> I think it's just you, but I have seen them before, but they don't pop up on my them before, but they don't pop up on my them before, but they don't pop up on my feed as often, I don't think. feed as often, I don't think. feed as often, I don't think. >> I haven't seen them recently. It might >> I haven't seen them recently. It might >> I haven't seen them recently. It might just be that the Quest two maybe isn't just be that the Quest two maybe isn't just be that the Quest two maybe isn't quite as popular at this moment, quite as popular at this moment, quite as popular at this moment, >> right? Yeah. Quest 3 has come now and >> right? Yeah. Quest 3 has come now and >> right? Yeah. Quest 3 has come now and and it doesn't uh it has the viewfinder and it doesn't uh it has the viewfinder and it doesn't uh it has the viewfinder kind of on the front so it doesn't want kind of on the front so it doesn't want kind of on the front so it doesn't want people to run into walls as much people to run into walls as much people to run into walls as much >> unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. I um we have >> unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. I um we have >> unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. I um we have it and so yeah, my kids put a little it and so yeah, my kids put a little it and so yeah, my kids put a little protective like barrier around them and protective like barrier around them and protective like barrier around them and I try to video them if I think they may I try to video them if I think they may I try to video them if I think they may be running into a wall. I mean, also be running into a wall. I mean, also be running into a wall. I mean, also maybe hypothetically try to tell them to maybe hypothetically try to tell them to maybe hypothetically try to tell them to not do it, but uh not do it, but uh not do it, but uh >> but >> but >> but to watch to watch to watch >> they at least want to record it. >> they at least want to record it. >> they at least want to record it. >> Um so, but I my point of of bringing up >> Um so, but I my point of of bringing up >> Um so, but I my point of of bringing up the Quest three is that little headset the Quest three is that little headset the Quest three is that little headset and the little hand things, it's real and the little hand things, it's real and the little hand things, it's real enough that um that people are terrified enough that um that people are terrified enough that um that people are terrified to fall off of a building. Like they're to fall off of a building. Like they're to fall off of a building. Like they're like like like and that's real. And so imagine that but and that's real. And so imagine that but and that's real. And so imagine that but it's generating it's generating it's generating a live experience.

a live experience. a live experience. Uh and then yeah like say for work you Uh and then yeah like say for work you Uh and then yeah like say for work you could be uh walking down the street and could be uh walking down the street and could be uh walking down the street and somebody could be outside. You could somebody could be outside. You could somebody could be outside. You could have you could do therapy and you know have you could do therapy and you know have you could do therapy and you know for you know have a discussion with with for you know have a discussion with with for you know have a discussion with with a coworker and then somebody on the a coworker and then somebody on the a coworker and then somebody on the screen the therapist is prompting the screen the therapist is prompting the screen the therapist is prompting the person you're talking to or adding other person you're talking to or adding other person you're talking to or adding other stimuli into the situation. stimuli into the situation. stimuli into the situation. Uh it really would be a very Uh it really would be a very Uh it really would be a very very therapeutic very therapeutic very therapeutic tool to use. tool to use. tool to use. >> Yeah. Yeah. But when it comes to the >> Yeah. Yeah. But when it comes to the >> Yeah. Yeah. But when it comes to the church, how might they use it? David. church, how might they use it? David. church, how might they use it? David. >> Yes. So now for all of you pastors out >> Yes. So now for all of you pastors out >> Yes. So now for all of you pastors out there, what about the church? Um, one there, what about the church? Um, one there, what about the church? Um, one thing K and I were were were briefly uh thing K and I were were were briefly uh thing K and I were were were briefly uh like like when it brought up this topic, like like when it brought up this topic, like like when it brought up this topic, one of the things that you mentioned one of the things that you mentioned one of the things that you mentioned just briefly, I think it's a really just briefly, I think it's a really just briefly, I think it's a really interesting thing is why not enter a interesting thing is why not enter a interesting thing is why not enter a Bible story? So, uh, it like what would Bible story? So, uh, it like what would Bible story? So, uh, it like what would it actually be like to be in Daniel in it actually be like to be in Daniel in it actually be like to be in Daniel in the Lion's Den?

the Lion's Den? the Lion's Den? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Or walking, you know, behind Jesus. >> Or walking, you know, behind Jesus. >> Or walking, you know, behind Jesus. >> Yeah. Or walking through the Red Sea. >> Yeah. Or walking through the Red Sea. >> Yeah. Or walking through the Red Sea. >> Yeah. Or when he that got Nicodem is >> Yeah. Or when he that got Nicodem is >> Yeah. Or when he that got Nicodem is Nicodemus that was lowered down from the Nicodemus that was lowered down from the Nicodemus that was lowered down from the ceiling. ceiling. ceiling. >> No, it was just a man and his friends. >> No, it was just a man and his friends. >> No, it was just a man and his friends. >> Okay, cool. Well, that guy I gave him a >> Okay, cool. Well, that guy I gave him a >> Okay, cool. Well, that guy I gave him a name. um you know what it would be like name. um you know what it would be like name. um you know what it would be like to be in that room or to be that guy to be in that room or to be that guy to be in that room or to be that guy that's getting lowered down from the that's getting lowered down from the that's getting lowered down from the ceiling. ceiling. ceiling. >> Yeah, I actually Yeah, I I've often >> Yeah, I actually Yeah, I I've often >> Yeah, I actually Yeah, I I've often thought about that. I feel like that'd thought about that. I feel like that'd thought about that. I feel like that'd be very embarrassing and you know like be very embarrassing and you know like be very embarrassing and you know like so maybe if you want to live out the so maybe if you want to live out the so maybe if you want to live out the moment of ultimate embarrassment is you moment of ultimate embarrassment is you moment of ultimate embarrassment is you there's the guy with the weird disease there's the guy with the weird disease there's the guy with the weird disease and he's loping somehow broke up the the and he's loping somehow broke up the the and he's loping somehow broke up the the great talk we were listening to and he's great talk we were listening to and he's great talk we were listening to and he's he just broke our roof dot dot dot so he just broke our roof dot dot dot so he just broke our roof dot dot dot so yeah if you want to live out your most yeah if you want to live out your most yeah if you want to live out your most embarrassing experience embarrassing experience embarrassing experience >> yeah but also like you could do you know >> yeah but also like you could do you know >> yeah but also like you could do you know uh just explore the biblical sites, you uh just explore the biblical sites, you uh just explore the biblical sites, you know, the Jordan River or uh the temple know, the Jordan River or uh the temple know, the Jordan River or uh the temple or maybe locations that Paul went to on or maybe locations that Paul went to on or maybe locations that Paul went to on his missionary journeys, the church of his missionary journeys, the church of his missionary journeys, the church of Corinth, things like that. Uh that Corinth, things like that. Uh that Corinth, things like that. Uh that you've heard a lot about but haven't you've heard a lot about but haven't you've heard a lot about but haven't ever seen. Uh I think that could be an ever seen. Uh I think that could be an ever seen. Uh I think that could be an interesting way to use it. That would be interesting way to use it. That would be interesting way to use it. That would be because to be kind of like boots on the because to be kind of like boots on the because to be kind of like boots on the ground for ground for ground for uh Paul speaking to people and then

uh Paul speaking to people and then uh Paul speaking to people and then where might he have literally walked? where might he have literally walked? where might he have literally walked? What might it have looked for him to What might it have looked for him to What might it have looked for him to walk walk walk >> from A to B? Um you know how close were >> from A to B? Um you know how close were >> from A to B? Um you know how close were these cities and what might the trip these cities and what might the trip these cities and what might the trip have looked like or felt like? have looked like or felt like? have looked like or felt like? >> Um th those things would just be >> Um th those things would just be >> Um th those things would just be fascinating. fascinating. fascinating. >> Yeah. Yeah. Or like the woman at the >> Yeah. Yeah. Or like the woman at the >> Yeah. Yeah. Or like the woman at the well, well, well, >> like these kind of stories. Um >> like these kind of stories. Um >> like these kind of stories. Um >> the the woman caught in adultery >> the the woman caught in adultery >> the the woman caught in adultery >> if you were there. Uh >> if you were there. Uh >> if you were there. Uh >> following Mary Mary and Marth uh >> following Mary Mary and Marth uh >> following Mary Mary and Marth uh following Mary and Joseph as they go uh following Mary and Joseph as they go uh following Mary and Joseph as they go uh to Bethlehem to Bethlehem to Bethlehem Red Street. I think that would be Red Street. I think that would be Red Street. I think that would be interesting too. interesting too. interesting too. >> Being at the wedding when Jesus turned >> Being at the wedding when Jesus turned >> Being at the wedding when Jesus turned water into wine. Um and water into wine. Um and water into wine. Um and >> but it was a party. >> but it was a party. >> but it was a party. >> Yeah. I mean I got to join join. Hey, >> Yeah. I mean I got to join join. Hey, >> Yeah. I mean I got to join join. Hey, this is uh like, hey, did you guys uh this is uh like, hey, did you guys uh this is uh like, hey, did you guys uh did you guys check out the the Jesus at did you guys check out the the Jesus at did you guys check out the the Jesus at the party uh you know, world? It's it's the party uh you know, world? It's it's the party uh you know, world? It's it's kind of it's crazy. It's it's it's so kind of it's crazy. It's it's it's so kind of it's crazy. It's it's it's so much fun. I danced. They brought out, much fun. I danced. They brought out, much fun. I danced. They brought out, you know, the everyone was doing the you know, the everyone was doing the you know, the everyone was doing the YMCA. Um I did the YMCA with Jesus. He's YMCA. Um I did the YMCA with Jesus. He's YMCA. Um I did the YMCA with Jesus. He's a He's a really good dancer.

a He's a really good dancer. a He's a really good dancer. >> Have you seen the Tik Tok that somebody >> Have you seen the Tik Tok that somebody >> Have you seen the Tik Tok that somebody has generated with AI of Jesus turning has generated with AI of Jesus turning has generated with AI of Jesus turning the water into wine and his mom like the water into wine and his mom like the water into wine and his mom like kind of bugging him? Okay. I'll have to kind of bugging him? Okay. I'll have to kind of bugging him? Okay. I'll have to see if I can find it and send it to you see if I can find it and send it to you see if I can find it and send it to you cuz somebody like generated it's like um cuz somebody like generated it's like um cuz somebody like generated it's like um have you seen those videos where people have you seen those videos where people have you seen those videos where people generate like the selfie type videos generate like the selfie type videos generate like the selfie type videos where like they're talking well I've where like they're talking well I've where like they're talking well I've been on a bunch of biblical ones lately been on a bunch of biblical ones lately been on a bunch of biblical ones lately for some reason and uh it's all like for some reason and uh it's all like for some reason and uh it's all like from their perspective and so it's like from their perspective and so it's like from their perspective and so it's like Jesus talking to the camera being like Jesus talking to the camera being like Jesus talking to the camera being like okay my mom's making me do this like okay my mom's making me do this like okay my mom's making me do this like let's see if I can do it or whatever let's see if I can do it or whatever let's see if I can do it or whatever then he's like all right we've done it then he's like all right we've done it then he's like all right we've done it like like like >> maybe I have seen that one but yeah >> maybe I have seen that one but yeah >> maybe I have seen that one but yeah those uh the but imagine those uh the but imagine those uh the but imagine >> being a part of it >> being a part of it >> being a part of it >> going into that world and that person is >> going into that world and that person is >> going into that world and that person is talking to you. talking to you. talking to you. >> Uh yeah. So I guess we're everything >> Uh yeah. So I guess we're everything >> Uh yeah. So I guess we're everything we've said is one general kind of use we've said is one general kind of use we've said is one general kind of use case. Um, case. Um, case. Um, there's probably there's probably there's probably a world, which we don't know if this a world, which we don't know if this a world, which we don't know if this will happen, where will happen, where will happen, where other people could meet each other in a other people could meet each other in a other people could meet each other in a generated world, which is what Meta was generated world, which is what Meta was generated world, which is what Meta was trying to create with Meta.

trying to create with Meta. trying to create with Meta. >> Yeah. And Horizons. >> Yeah. And Horizons. >> Yeah. And Horizons. >> What's that? >> What's that? >> What's that? >> Horizons was their like platform for >> Horizons was their like platform for >> Horizons was their like platform for that. that. that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And at that point it felt more like we And at that point it felt more like we And at that point it felt more like we people or something or just it wasn't it people or something or just it wasn't it people or something or just it wasn't it didn't feel didn't feel didn't feel >> Yeah. It does still feel very the video >> Yeah. It does still feel very the video >> Yeah. It does still feel very the video gameish. gameish. gameish. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So I feel it it feels like this is the >> So I feel it it feels like this is the >> So I feel it it feels like this is the first foray into first foray into first foray into what what helping that vision to become what what helping that vision to become what what helping that vision to become a reality. And the reason I mention that a reality. And the reason I mention that a reality. And the reason I mention that is uh there could be a world in which is uh there could be a world in which is uh there could be a world in which again I'm not saying this is healthy or again I'm not saying this is healthy or again I'm not saying this is healthy or good but two friends could meet there in good but two friends could meet there in good but two friends could meet there in in in the the Google world. Um a person in in the the Google world. Um a person in in the the Google world. Um a person could launch a church could launch a church could launch a church in there and preach to people in that in there and preach to people in that in there and preach to people in that environment. Again not saying healthy, environment. Again not saying healthy, environment. Again not saying healthy, not saying good, just brainstorming not saying good, just brainstorming not saying good, just brainstorming possibilities. Yeah, we don't really possibilities. Yeah, we don't really possibilities. Yeah, we don't really know the social aspect of it quite yet, know the social aspect of it quite yet, know the social aspect of it quite yet, you know, uh they haven't really you know, uh they haven't really you know, uh they haven't really launched like, oh, meet your friends launched like, oh, meet your friends launched like, oh, meet your friends here, those kind of things quite yet.

here, those kind of things quite yet. here, those kind of things quite yet. Right now, it's just generating the Right now, it's just generating the Right now, it's just generating the environment, but uh is that on the environment, but uh is that on the environment, but uh is that on the horizon? Yes, of course. Uh it's horizon? Yes, of course. Uh it's horizon? Yes, of course. Uh it's something that they're thinking of. Uh, something that they're thinking of. Uh, something that they're thinking of. Uh, for sure. And and it's something that is for sure. And and it's something that is for sure. And and it's something that is going on right now, David. Like the VR going on right now, David. Like the VR going on right now, David. Like the VR church that David Sodto has or DJ Sodto, church that David Sodto has or DJ Sodto, church that David Sodto has or DJ Sodto, he uh creates virtual worlds every week he uh creates virtual worlds every week he uh creates virtual worlds every week where they experience the Bible and walk where they experience the Bible and walk where they experience the Bible and walk through those things. But again, it's through those things. But again, it's through those things. But again, it's not it's still video gameish. not it's still video gameish. not it's still video gameish. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Still, you're still like an avatar. >> Still, you're still like an avatar. >> Still, you're still like an avatar. You're not like a person. You're not like a person. You're not like a person. >> Um, it's still very much like >> Um, it's still very much like >> Um, it's still very much like experiencing a video game. It's cool. experiencing a video game. It's cool. experiencing a video game. It's cool. And you do create memories from it, And you do create memories from it, And you do create memories from it, which is very interesting that you which is very interesting that you which is very interesting that you create memories in a in a video game create memories in a in a video game create memories in a in a video game type environment because for the most type environment because for the most type environment because for the most part I don't really remember my like part I don't really remember my like part I don't really remember my like video, you know what I'm saying? Like I video, you know what I'm saying? Like I video, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't really remember but there's like don't really remember but there's like don't really remember but there's like these big um I don't know experiences these big um I don't know experiences these big um I don't know experiences that you can have. uh we traveled the that you can have. uh we traveled the that you can have. uh we traveled the solar system together as a team when I solar system together as a team when I solar system together as a team when I was at Meta and uh learned together and was at Meta and uh learned together and was at Meta and uh learned together and I can remember like you know somebody at I can remember like you know somebody at I can remember like you know somebody at work my co-orker being on my left side work my co-orker being on my left side work my co-orker being on my left side and like we were like talking about it and like we were like talking about it and like we were like talking about it or whatever. It's just it's very or whatever. It's just it's very or whatever. It's just it's very interesting the uh the future of what interesting the uh the future of what interesting the uh the future of what all of this holds. I think we're we're all of this holds. I think we're we're all of this holds. I think we're we're going to see it all come together soon.

going to see it all come together soon. going to see it all come together soon. >> Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking Matt here's >> Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking Matt here's >> Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking Matt here's the pathway we've gone, you know, we've the pathway we've gone, you know, we've the pathway we've gone, you know, we've gone from word generation to image gone from word generation to image gone from word generation to image generation generation generation to video generation to now world to video generation to now world to video generation to now world generation. generation. generation. Um I don't think anything's bigger than Um I don't think anything's bigger than Um I don't think anything's bigger than world. So we might be uh you know world. So we might be uh you know world. So we might be uh you know >> universe. >> universe. >> universe. >> Sure. Yeah. We'll we'll just create >> Sure. Yeah. We'll we'll just create >> Sure. Yeah. We'll we'll just create universes. Uh and each universes. Uh and each universes. Uh and each >> David you have your own universe. So you >> David you have your own universe. So you >> David you have your own universe. So you have all your little planets and people have all your little planets and people have all your little planets and people can visit them. can visit them. can visit them. >> Yes. I >> Yes. I >> Yes. I I Yeah. I wherever wherever that I Yeah. I wherever wherever that I Yeah. I wherever wherever that discussion goes. I that seems discussion goes. I that seems discussion goes. I that seems theologically complicated, but theologically complicated, but theologically complicated, but >> it is. Yeah. I just the point is and >> it is. Yeah. I just the point is and >> it is. Yeah. I just the point is and we're just having fun, you know, kind of we're just having fun, you know, kind of we're just having fun, you know, kind of >> it it's worth noting that this is a >> it it's worth noting that this is a >> it it's worth noting that this is a notable notable notable thing that has that has been created thing that has that has been created thing that has that has been created >> and is going to impact us. >> and is going to impact us. >> and is going to impact us. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> At some point here. And one other use, >> At some point here. And one other use, >> At some point here. And one other use, you know, that I found, you know, I you know, that I found, you know, I you know, that I found, you know, I asked Google Gemini before we started, asked Google Gemini before we started, asked Google Gemini before we started, what what were some possible uses for what what were some possible uses for what what were some possible uses for church and and one that David and I church and and one that David and I church and and one that David and I found really interesting was using it found really interesting was using it found really interesting was using it for missions training, like if you're for missions training, like if you're for missions training, like if you're going on a mission trip to a a different going on a mission trip to a a different going on a mission trip to a a different country uh that has different cultural country uh that has different cultural country uh that has different cultural and social environments to help your and social environments to help your and social environments to help your missionaries and volunteers prepare by missionaries and volunteers prepare by missionaries and volunteers prepare by like practicing safe interactions, like practicing safe interactions, like practicing safe interactions, whatever that might look like. uh you whatever that might look like. uh you whatever that might look like. uh you know or construction if they're doing it know or construction if they're doing it know or construction if they're doing it and they've never done it before to go and they've never done it before to go and they've never done it before to go over some safety things so that they can over some safety things so that they can over some safety things so that they can experience it but not experience it experience it but not experience it experience it but not experience it >> right >> right >> right >> uh you know and then like you said like >> uh you know and then like you said like >> uh you know and then like you said like practicing those difficult conversations practicing those difficult conversations practicing those difficult conversations doing conflict resolution all that I doing conflict resolution all that I doing conflict resolution all that I think would be really useful for a think would be really useful for a think would be really useful for a church church church >> 100% yeah practicing language you're >> 100% yeah practicing language you're >> 100% yeah practicing language you're speaking of mission trips I mean speaking of mission trips I mean speaking of mission trips I mean >> yeah that would be awesome if you could >> yeah that would be awesome if you could >> yeah that would be awesome if you could practice a language with someone every practice a language with someone every practice a language with someone every day like and sit down and like literally day like and sit down and like literally day like and sit down and like literally practice the language like practice the language like practice the language like >> babble on steroids or whatever whatever >> babble on steroids or whatever whatever >> babble on steroids or whatever whatever language. Oh, duallingingo. That's language. Oh, duallingingo. That's language. Oh, duallingingo. That's another one.

another one. another one. >> Dual lingo on steroids of literally, >> Dual lingo on steroids of literally, >> Dual lingo on steroids of literally, >> hey, my son will say, "Hey, hey, Dad. >> hey, my son will say, "Hey, hey, Dad. >> hey, my son will say, "Hey, hey, Dad. I'm going to go hang out with um I'm going to go hang out with um I'm going to go hang out with um Ammonia, my friend, and we're going to Ammonia, my friend, and we're going to Ammonia, my friend, and we're going to talk a language." And that'd be very talk a language." And that'd be very talk a language." And that'd be very very cool. very cool. very cool. >> Mhm. Yeah. But of course, I mean, >> Mhm. Yeah. But of course, I mean, >> Mhm. Yeah. But of course, I mean, there's a lot of safety risk, a lot of there's a lot of safety risk, a lot of there's a lot of safety risk, a lot of issues that we're not sure of like, you issues that we're not sure of like, you issues that we're not sure of like, you know, what could those conversations get know, what could those conversations get know, what could those conversations get into and like uh what becomes like okay into and like uh what becomes like okay into and like uh what becomes like okay and not okay, you know? I think that's and not okay, you know? I think that's and not okay, you know? I think that's all still we're in the Wild Wild West. all still we're in the Wild Wild West. all still we're in the Wild Wild West. So, you know, if it feels icky, don't do So, you know, if it feels icky, don't do So, you know, if it feels icky, don't do it. That's my uh it. That's my uh it. That's my uh >> your life. Is that your life mantra? >> your life. Is that your life mantra? >> your life. Is that your life mantra? Yeah. If it feels icky, just don't. Yeah. If it feels icky, just don't. Yeah. If it feels icky, just don't. >> All right. I I would like that. Uh I put >> All right. I I would like that. Uh I put >> All right. I I would like that. Uh I put that on a t-shirt. that on a t-shirt. that on a t-shirt. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's my rule for life. If >> Yeah. Yeah. It's my rule for life. If >> Yeah. Yeah. It's my rule for life. If you if it if if it just doesn't feel you if it if if it just doesn't feel you if it if if it just doesn't feel right, just don't do it. I don't know right, just don't do it. I don't know right, just don't do it. I don't know why people find it to be so difficult, why people find it to be so difficult, why people find it to be so difficult, but uh you know, like if it doesn't feel but uh you know, like if it doesn't feel but uh you know, like if it doesn't feel right to you, it's probably not right.

right to you, it's probably not right. right to you, it's probably not right. So, don't do that. So, don't do that. So, don't do that. world where people eat peppers world where people eat peppers world where people eat peppers >> and jump off of cliffs. >> and jump off of cliffs. >> and jump off of cliffs. >> So, there's a lot of things that uh you >> So, there's a lot of things that uh you >> So, there's a lot of things that uh you know people in in general Yeah. It feels know people in in general Yeah. It feels know people in in general Yeah. It feels like kind of how I feel like in general like kind of how I feel like in general like kind of how I feel like in general about men like why are any of us about men like why are any of us about men like why are any of us married? Like women could do so much married? Like women could do so much married? Like women could do so much better. We we're we're not a very good better. We we're we're not a very good better. We we're we're not a very good species as as men. And um and I feel species as as men. And um and I feel species as as men. And um and I feel like that way about like in general like that way about like in general like that way about like in general people as a whole we're not the smartest people as a whole we're not the smartest people as a whole we're not the smartest things. things. things. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Somehow I don't know somehow we're at >> Somehow I don't know somehow we're at >> Somehow I don't know somehow we're at the top of the food chain but I don't the top of the food chain but I don't the top of the food chain but I don't know that we deserve it. know that we deserve it. know that we deserve it. >> Yeah. I don't I don't I don't know that >> Yeah. I don't I don't I don't know that >> Yeah. I don't I don't I don't know that that's true either. But uh maybe we'll that's true either. But uh maybe we'll that's true either. But uh maybe we'll get better once we start using this. get better once we start using this. get better once we start using this. >> I don't know. Uh >> I don't know. Uh >> I don't know. Uh >> we'll find out. >> we'll find out. >> we'll find out. >> Yeah. All right. Well, there we go, >> Yeah. All right. Well, there we go, >> Yeah. All right. Well, there we go, Katie. So, um, I it was this popped up, Katie. So, um, I it was this popped up, Katie. So, um, I it was this popped up, I really thought it would be helpful for I really thought it would be helpful for I really thought it would be helpful for us to just jump on and just have share us to just jump on and just have share us to just jump on and just have share this with pastors and churches. Um, just this with pastors and churches. Um, just this with pastors and churches. Um, just saying Katie and I here we we had a lot saying Katie and I here we we had a lot saying Katie and I here we we had a lot of fun talking about this. Please do not of fun talking about this. Please do not of fun talking about this. Please do not hold us to any complex theological hold us to any complex theological hold us to any complex theological viewpoints related. If anything, we said viewpoints related. If anything, we said viewpoints related. If anything, we said that, you know, the adventures into a that, you know, the adventures into a that, you know, the adventures into a theologically complex topic. I guess theologically complex topic. I guess theologically complex topic. I guess just trust that we do not mean to be just trust that we do not mean to be just trust that we do not mean to be theologically divergent in any way,

theologically divergent in any way, theologically divergent in any way, shape, or form. We're generally just shape, or form. We're generally just shape, or form. We're generally just having a fun conversation. having a fun conversation. having a fun conversation. >> I'm not a theologian. >> I'm not a theologian. >> I'm not a theologian. Well, I I have gone to to to seminary, Well, I I have gone to to to seminary, Well, I I have gone to to to seminary, so I so I so I >> I think I I probably could not say the >> I think I I probably could not say the >> I think I I probably could not say the same thing that same thing that same thing that unfortunately I probably am a theologian unfortunately I probably am a theologian unfortunately I probably am a theologian if if one is. Uh but I do not intend mal if if one is. Uh but I do not intend mal if if one is. Uh but I do not intend mal >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's that's fair. I think that's fair. that's fair. I think that's fair. that's fair. I think that's fair. >> Yeah. Well, thanks for hanging with us. >> Yeah. Well, thanks for hanging with us. >> Yeah. Well, thanks for hanging with us. Uh definitely like and subscribe and Uh definitely like and subscribe and Uh definitely like and subscribe and offer comments. If you have ideas of how offer comments. If you have ideas of how offer comments. If you have ideas of how something like Genie3 could be used for something like Genie3 could be used for something like Genie3 could be used for churches, we'd love to hear your ideas, churches, we'd love to hear your ideas, churches, we'd love to hear your ideas, too. And if you're a church looking to too. And if you're a church looking to too. And if you're a church looking to get started with AI, definitely check get started with AI, definitely check get started with AI, definitely check out AI for churches. Join our Facebook out AI for churches. Join our Facebook out AI for churches. Join our Facebook group, AI for Churches, and Katie and I group, AI for Churches, and Katie and I group, AI for Churches, and Katie and I would love to chat with you and help would love to chat with you and help would love to chat with you and help your church get started using AI. your church get started using AI. your church get started using AI. [Music]