Important Dates, News & Notes For Church Communications | Katie Allred

[Music] [Music] the church Innovation summit we're the church Innovation summit we're the church Innovation summit we're hoping will become an annual event where hoping will become an annual event where hoping will become an annual event where we'll find out but you know this one's we'll find out but you know this one's we'll find out but you know this one's focused directly on artificial focused directly on artificial focused directly on artificial intelligence and something I just I intelligence and something I just I intelligence and something I just I don't know there's so many neat things don't know there's so many neat things don't know there's so many neat things that have come out if you haven't that have come out if you haven't that have come out if you haven't already experienced chat GPT I highly already experienced chat GPT I highly already experienced chat GPT I highly recommend getting in there it's free and recommend getting in there it's free and recommend getting in there it's free and just uh playing around with it but I just uh playing around with it but I just uh playing around with it but I think that there's so many new think that there's so many new think that there's so many new technologies now that can make your job technologies now that can make your job technologies now that can make your job at the church especially as a church at the church especially as a church at the church especially as a church Communicator so much easier there's logo Communicator so much easier there's logo Communicator so much easier there's logo creators that are AI based there's creators that are AI based there's creators that are AI based there's headshot generators and so how many headshot generators and so how many headshot generators and so how many times have you needed a good headshot of times have you needed a good headshot of times have you needed a good headshot of your pastor and couldn't get one right your pastor and couldn't get one right your pastor and couldn't get one right and now you can pay 17 and upload a and now you can pay 17 and upload a and now you can pay 17 and upload a bunch of random photos of him with his bunch of random photos of him with his bunch of random photos of him with his grandkids and just cut out his head and grandkids and just cut out his head and grandkids and just cut out his head and then you can end up with some then you can end up with some then you can end up with some professional headshots of them so professional headshots of them so professional headshots of them so welcome to season three episode 34 of welcome to season three episode 34 of welcome to season three episode 34 of the missional marketing podcast my name the missional marketing podcast my name the missional marketing podcast my name is Bart Blair it's my privilege to is Bart Blair it's my privilege to is Bart Blair it's my privilege to welcome you to another episode of our welcome you to another episode of our welcome you to another episode of our show if you're new to the podcast we show if you're new to the podcast we show if you're new to the podcast we want to let you know that our purpose in want to let you know that our purpose in want to let you know that our purpose in producing this podcast is to help your producing this podcast is to help your producing this podcast is to help your church grow by leveraging digital church grow by leveraging digital church grow by leveraging digital marketing and effective Communications marketing and effective Communications marketing and effective Communications my podcasting partner my co-host is my podcasting partner my co-host is my podcasting partner my co-host is Jason Hamrock he is the CEO of missional Jason Hamrock he is the CEO of missional Jason Hamrock he is the CEO of missional marketing I'm one of the digital coaches marketing I'm one of the digital coaches marketing I'm one of the digital coaches doing digital Outreach strategies with doing digital Outreach strategies with doing digital Outreach strategies with churches and Jason and I are really churches and Jason and I are really churches and Jason and I are really passionate about helping churches really passionate about helping churches really passionate about helping churches really reach more people using digital tools reach more people using digital tools reach more people using digital tools Google Facebook Instagram email You Name Google Facebook Instagram email You Name Google Facebook Instagram email You Name It We want to help you reach more people It We want to help you reach more people It We want to help you reach more people for Jesus and we have a really capable for Jesus and we have a really capable for Jesus and we have a really capable team that we work alongside every single

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founder of the church Communications founder of the church Communications Group and is also an employee of meta Group and is also an employee of meta Group and is also an employee of meta and we have a very exciting podcast to and we have a very exciting podcast to and we have a very exciting podcast to share with you today because we have a share with you today because we have a share with you today because we have a lot of stuff going on in Partnership lot of stuff going on in Partnership lot of stuff going on in Partnership between missional marketing and the between missional marketing and the between missional marketing and the church Communications Group some events church Communications Group some events church Communications Group some events and some activities and some things that and some activities and some things that and some activities and some things that I think will be really important for you I think will be really important for you I think will be really important for you to know as well just a general update to know as well just a general update to know as well just a general update from Katie about things at the church from Katie about things at the church from Katie about things at the church Communications Group and so you're Communications Group and so you're Communications Group and so you're really going to want to just lean in and really going to want to just lean in and really going to want to just lean in and listen make sure that you've got your listen make sure that you've got your listen make sure that you've got your calendar handy so that you can mark down calendar handy so that you can mark down calendar handy so that you can mark down some important dates and things that you some important dates and things that you some important dates and things that you need to know about stuff that's coming need to know about stuff that's coming need to know about stuff that's coming up around the corner it's going to be a up around the corner it's going to be a up around the corner it's going to be a great conversation I think you're really great conversation I think you're really great conversation I think you're really going to appreciate it so without any going to appreciate it so without any going to appreciate it so without any further delay here's Jason Hamrock the further delay here's Jason Hamrock the further delay here's Jason Hamrock the CEO of missional marketing and our CEO of missional marketing and our CEO of missional marketing and our conversation with Katie Allred conversation with Katie Allred conversation with Katie Allred hey Katie welcome to the show how are hey Katie welcome to the show how are hey Katie welcome to the show how are you yeah thank you for having me I you yeah thank you for having me I you yeah thank you for having me I appreciate it man you you're like this appreciate it man you you're like this appreciate it man you you're like this is is this episode number is is this episode number is is this episode number four that you've been with us now of four that you've been with us now of four that you've been with us now of course four times five times I think so course four times five times I think so course four times five times I think so I think it's a fourth yeah I think it's a fourth yeah I think it's a fourth yeah yeah yeah yeah we're coming up to the end of season we're coming up to the end of season we're coming up to the end of season three she was on the very well very three she was on the very well very three she was on the very well very first episode which is still one of the first episode which is still one of the first episode which is still one of the most watched and listened you should go most watched and listened you should go most watched and listened you should go watch that episode it was Stellar you it watch that episode it was Stellar you it watch that episode it was Stellar you it was you two alone I was not there but it was you two alone I was not there but it was you two alone I was not there but it apparently rocked because people people apparently rocked because people people apparently rocked because people people are still listening to it girls are nice are still listening to it girls are nice are still listening to it girls are nice thank you well I'm excited to have you here well I'm excited to have you here um um um and our listeners Know Who You Are and our listeners Know Who You Are and our listeners Know Who You Are but just in case we got some new but just in case we got some new but just in case we got some new listeners why don't you take a second

listeners why don't you take a second listeners why don't you take a second and introduce yourself and introduce yourself and introduce yourself sure yeah so I am the founder of sure yeah so I am the founder of sure yeah so I am the founder of churchcommunications.com I started it churchcommunications.com I started it churchcommunications.com I started it back in 2015 as a Facebook group and it back in 2015 as a Facebook group and it back in 2015 as a Facebook group and it really grew on its own and just kind of really grew on its own and just kind of really grew on its own and just kind of took on a life of its own and I think as took on a life of its own and I think as took on a life of its own and I think as many pastors maybe you started a church many pastors maybe you started a church many pastors maybe you started a church plant and you saw that church plant grow plant and you saw that church plant grow plant and you saw that church plant grow to a church of you know five thousand I to a church of you know five thousand I to a church of you know five thousand I feel like I have pastored many churches feel like I have pastored many churches feel like I have pastored many churches during that time even though it was the during that time even though it was the during that time even though it was the same church same church same church um so I think that people might be um so I think that people might be um so I think that people might be familiar with that feeling outside of familiar with that feeling outside of familiar with that feeling outside of that I am an author I work in technology that I am an author I work in technology that I am an author I work in technology I love Jesus and the church and I have I love Jesus and the church and I have I love Jesus and the church and I have always just been passionate about always just been passionate about always just been passionate about helping churches helping churches helping churches grow and to share the word as clearly as grow and to share the word as clearly as grow and to share the word as clearly as they possibly can where they can and as they possibly can where they can and as they possibly can where they can and as often as they can yeah and so yeah often as they can yeah and so yeah often as they can yeah and so yeah that's kind of where I am today that's kind of where I am today that's kind of where I am today kid he's got a huge heart for the local kid he's got a huge heart for the local kid he's got a huge heart for the local church and um and church Communications church and um and church Communications church and um and church Communications like just Community how do you like just Community how do you like just Community how do you communicate effectively in a church and communicate effectively in a church and communicate effectively in a church and so so so she's an expert and has a lot to say she's an expert and has a lot to say she's an expert and has a lot to say it's it's fun to listen to her talk it's it's fun to listen to her talk it's it's fun to listen to her talk about it if I'm not mistaken the last about it if I'm not mistaken the last about it if I'm not mistaken the last time Katie was on the show was right at time Katie was on the show was right at time Katie was on the show was right at the release of the book in fact you the release of the book in fact you the release of the book in fact you opened your box and showed copies of the opened your box and showed copies of the opened your box and showed copies of the book with us on that episode how long book with us on that episode how long book with us on that episode how long ago would that have been ago would that have been ago would that have been so that was so that was so that was August of 2022. okay so August yeah so August of 2022. okay so August yeah so August of 2022. okay so August yeah so eight nine months eight nine months ago

eight nine months eight nine months ago eight nine months eight nine months ago yeah it's still baby it's still innocent yeah it's still baby it's still innocent yeah it's still baby it's still innocent yeah so how how uh how have things gone yeah so how how uh how have things gone yeah so how how uh how have things gone since the release of the book yeah you since the release of the book yeah you since the release of the book yeah you know it sold out actually no yeah actually no yeah um which is kind of funny I was not um which is kind of funny I was not um which is kind of funny I was not expecting that at all so yeah that was expecting that at all so yeah that was expecting that at all so yeah that was neat uh and then the books neat uh and then the books neat uh and then the books not just done really well I think like not just done really well I think like not just done really well I think like what's really great is that I've heard what's really great is that I've heard what's really great is that I've heard from a lot of churches and I've heard from a lot of churches and I've heard from a lot of churches and I've heard from a lot of people individually what's from a lot of people individually what's from a lot of people individually what's fun now is that people are joining the fun now is that people are joining the fun now is that people are joining the group because of the book so I've seen group because of the book so I've seen group because of the book so I've seen multiple people say hey I picked up this multiple people say hey I picked up this multiple people say hey I picked up this book and she mentioned the group in the book and she mentioned the group in the book and she mentioned the group in the book book book and I was like oh fantastic that's so and I was like oh fantastic that's so and I was like oh fantastic that's so much fun um because I really created the much fun um because I really created the much fun um because I really created the book for the group not you know the book for the group not you know the book for the group not you know the group for the book so I I think that's group for the book so I I think that's group for the book so I I think that's really fun to see people coming to join really fun to see people coming to join really fun to see people coming to join the community after that but at the end the community after that but at the end the community after that but at the end of the day I'm just really passionate of the day I'm just really passionate of the day I'm just really passionate about the community and how I can help about the community and how I can help about the community and how I can help them grow yeah yeah I'm excited let's them grow yeah yeah I'm excited let's them grow yeah yeah I'm excited let's we're gonna dive into we're gonna dive into we're gonna dive into um what you did with the book uh but um what you did with the book uh but um what you did with the book uh but before we do that before we do that before we do that I guess we should talk about a new I guess we should talk about a new I guess we should talk about a new partnership partnership partnership we should probably discuss our new we should probably discuss our new we should probably discuss our new partnership partnership partnership if you would like to do that if you would like to do that if you would like to do that well okay well okay well okay I'm sorry that's because my desktop but I'm sorry that's because my desktop but I'm sorry that's because my desktop but for the people who aren't watching this for the people who aren't watching this for the people who aren't watching this via video I'm just like changing colors

via video I'm just like changing colors via video I'm just like changing colors everything it actually looks like you everything it actually looks like you everything it actually looks like you have a fire in your office have a fire in your office have a fire in your office an orange glow in your face this is an orange glow in your face this is an orange glow in your face this is better yeah okay there you go I'm so excited to uh be announcing that I'm so excited to uh be announcing that missional marketing is a partner with missional marketing is a partner with missional marketing is a partner with Katie and church Communications that Katie and church Communications that Katie and church Communications that came in effect on January 1st and so came in effect on January 1st and so came in effect on January 1st and so we're we're we're co-owners co-owners co-owners um and we're so excited missional um and we're so excited missional um and we're so excited missional marketing is we're thrilled all of our marketing is we're thrilled all of our marketing is we're thrilled all of our team is thrilled about this partnership team is thrilled about this partnership team is thrilled about this partnership because just like what Katie was saying because just like what Katie was saying because just like what Katie was saying a minute ago we've we've loved Jesus a minute ago we've we've loved Jesus a minute ago we've we've loved Jesus we love him passionately and deeply and we love him passionately and deeply and we love him passionately and deeply and we want more and more people to know him we want more and more people to know him we want more and more people to know him and we think that's best done through and we think that's best done through and we think that's best done through local churches and we care deeply about local churches and we care deeply about local churches and we care deeply about church Communications and so we want to church Communications and so we want to church Communications and so we want to help churches just get better at how help churches just get better at how help churches just get better at how they communicate so that they can share they communicate so that they can share they communicate so that they can share the gospel with more and more people so the gospel with more and more people so the gospel with more and more people so what better partnership to have than what better partnership to have than what better partnership to have than with Katie Allred and church with Katie Allred and church with Katie Allred and church communication so the opportunity came up communication so the opportunity came up communication so the opportunity came up and we said yes it wasn't even before and we said yes it wasn't even before and we said yes it wasn't even before she came and finished yes the answer is she came and finished yes the answer is she came and finished yes the answer is yes we'd love to partner with with Katie yes we'd love to partner with with Katie yes we'd love to partner with with Katie and her team and it's been it's been a and her team and it's been it's been a and her team and it's been it's been a blast the last uh what three or four blast the last uh what three or four blast the last uh what three or four months now that we've been uh kind of months now that we've been uh kind of months now that we've been uh kind of talking and we've of course we have a talking and we've of course we have a talking and we've of course we have a relationship goes back years so this relationship goes back years so this relationship goes back years so this wasn't like you know we thought of this wasn't like you know we thought of this wasn't like you know we thought of this one day it was it was a kind of a thing one day it was it was a kind of a thing one day it was it was a kind of a thing in the making and we were just super in the making and we were just super in the making and we were just super excited excited excited yeah well I've been really excited and I yeah well I've been really excited and I yeah well I've been really excited and I know our team has been really excited

know our team has been really excited know our team has been really excited too to have some fresh energy and we've too to have some fresh energy and we've too to have some fresh energy and we've been enjoying discussing all the new been enjoying discussing all the new been enjoying discussing all the new stuff that we have uh coming up and stuff that we have uh coming up and stuff that we have uh coming up and coming out and yeah I've just really coming out and yeah I've just really coming out and yeah I've just really appreciated the again the saying just appreciated the again the saying just appreciated the again the saying just having that same mentality of like we having that same mentality of like we having that same mentality of like we want to help the local church do the want to help the local church do the want to help the local church do the best job that they can reaching to best job that they can reaching to best job that they can reaching to people in their communities the best way people in their communities the best way people in their communities the best way they know how and to help them grow yeah they know how and to help them grow yeah they know how and to help them grow yeah I think it's I think it's important to I think it's I think it's important to I think it's I think it's important to note that church Communications and note that church Communications and note that church Communications and missional marketing are two separate missional marketing are two separate missional marketing are two separate entities right it's not becoming one entities right it's not becoming one entities right it's not becoming one organization but we get the the benefit organization but we get the the benefit organization but we get the the benefit of the Synergy of two different teams of the Synergy of two different teams of the Synergy of two different teams who both have kind of different creative who both have kind of different creative who both have kind of different creative spaces and different areas of expertise spaces and different areas of expertise spaces and different areas of expertise and we're actually pulling together uh and we're actually pulling together uh and we're actually pulling together uh to really benefit both both to really benefit both both to really benefit both both organizations right so I think that you organizations right so I think that you organizations right so I think that you know missional marketing will become know missional marketing will become know missional marketing will become stronger because of our connection with stronger because of our connection with stronger because of our connection with Katie and the people that are on her Katie and the people that are on her Katie and the people that are on her team and then hopefully Katie and her team and then hopefully Katie and her team and then hopefully Katie and her team feel like there's a benefit with team feel like there's a benefit with team feel like there's a benefit with connecting with some of our people and connecting with some of our people and connecting with some of our people and some of our expertise and so it's really some of our expertise and so it's really some of our expertise and so it's really I mean we really I don't know that we I mean we really I don't know that we I mean we really I don't know that we can fully predict just how far this can fully predict just how far this can fully predict just how far this partnership will allow our two families partnership will allow our two families partnership will allow our two families to grow and to go to grow and to go to grow and to go um but above everything else we want to um but above everything else we want to um but above everything else we want to honor Jesus with what we're doing and uh honor Jesus with what we're doing and uh honor Jesus with what we're doing and uh I think you know everything from just I think you know everything from just I think you know everything from just the initial conversations about how this the initial conversations about how this the initial conversations about how this is all going to come together and even is all going to come together and even is all going to come together and even now what it looks like going forward now what it looks like going forward now what it looks like going forward um it's all about ultimately pointing um it's all about ultimately pointing um it's all about ultimately pointing people to the king of the universe and people to the king of the universe and people to the king of the universe and um you know making decisions that are um you know making decisions that are um you know making decisions that are going to be ultimately not beneficial

going to be ultimately not beneficial going to be ultimately not beneficial for for church comms not ultimately for for church comms not ultimately for for church comms not ultimately beneficial for missional marketing but beneficial for missional marketing but beneficial for missional marketing but beneficial for the the hundreds if not beneficial for the the hundreds if not beneficial for the the hundreds if not thousands and thousands of churches that thousands and thousands of churches that thousands and thousands of churches that we get to interface with on a regular we get to interface with on a regular we get to interface with on a regular basis so very excited basis so very excited basis so very excited um I'm I'm pumped and I know our team is um I'm I'm pumped and I know our team is um I'm I'm pumped and I know our team is pumped so yeah I'll just reiterate what pumped so yeah I'll just reiterate what pumped so yeah I'll just reiterate what Jason said Jason said Jason said yep so let's let's dive in I've got yep so let's let's dive in I've got yep so let's let's dive in I've got three things I'd love to talk three things I'd love to talk three things I'd love to talk to you about Katie and just kind of get to you about Katie and just kind of get to you about Katie and just kind of get your get your input and pick your brain your get your input and pick your brain your get your input and pick your brain a little bit this will help a lot of a little bit this will help a lot of a little bit this will help a lot of people as Katie was mentioning she uh people as Katie was mentioning she uh people as Katie was mentioning she uh she wrote a book we launched back in she wrote a book we launched back in she wrote a book we launched back in August you you got to get the book If August you you got to get the book If August you you got to get the book If you haven't uh just go to Amazon look you haven't uh just go to Amazon look you haven't uh just go to Amazon look for church Communications by Katie for church Communications by Katie for church Communications by Katie Allred buy the book buy it for your Allred buy the book buy it for your Allred buy the book buy it for your whole team and it's not a uh it's a whole team and it's not a uh it's a whole team and it's not a uh it's a workbook okay so it's a book that you workbook okay so it's a book that you workbook okay so it's a book that you want to read and there's different want to read and there's different want to read and there's different chapters in that thing but Katie talk chapters in that thing but Katie talk chapters in that thing but Katie talk about what you did with this book in the about what you did with this book in the about what you did with this book in the in the you know the courses that are in the you know the courses that are in the you know the courses that are going to be coming out pretty soon going to be coming out pretty soon going to be coming out pretty soon yeah so the book itself is definitely a yeah so the book itself is definitely a yeah so the book itself is definitely a textbook I wrote it with my 18 year old textbook I wrote it with my 18 year old textbook I wrote it with my 18 year old students of mine when I was a professor students of mine when I was a professor students of mine when I was a professor at college College I said what would at college College I said what would at college College I said what would they know and what would they not know they know and what would they not know they know and what would they not know about church communication if somebody about church communication if somebody about church communication if somebody was just to pick this up off the shelf was just to pick this up off the shelf was just to pick this up off the shelf and they just got assigned to do social and they just got assigned to do social and they just got assigned to do social media at their Church like where would media at their Church like where would media at their Church like where would they begin you know or they just gotta they begin you know or they just gotta they begin you know or they just gotta became the communications director the became the communications director the became the communications director the first ever communications director at first ever communications director at first ever communications director at the church there so many people who the church there so many people who the church there so many people who probably listened to this that was like probably listened to this that was like probably listened to this that was like yep that was me yep that was me yep that was me that is me right now and so I designed

that is me right now and so I designed that is me right now and so I designed it and I wrote it basically as a road it and I wrote it basically as a road it and I wrote it basically as a road map for people who just haven't done map for people who just haven't done map for people who just haven't done this work before and basically as a this work before and basically as a this work before and basically as a marketing primer it's not like in a marketing primer it's not like in a marketing primer it's not like in a Communications primer it's not Communications primer it's not Communications primer it's not I wouldn't say there's like a lot of I wouldn't say there's like a lot of I wouldn't say there's like a lot of advanced theory in there I mean I think advanced theory in there I mean I think advanced theory in there I mean I think maybe after I threw a couple of crazy maybe after I threw a couple of crazy maybe after I threw a couple of crazy ideas in there if you want them but I ideas in there if you want them but I ideas in there if you want them but I think mostly more than anything it think mostly more than anything it think mostly more than anything it really is a primer on what is branding really is a primer on what is branding really is a primer on what is branding and and what is social media and how can and and what is social media and how can and and what is social media and how can we use it best and we're about we need we use it best and we're about we need we use it best and we're about we need to build a website or we're rebuilding to build a website or we're rebuilding to build a website or we're rebuilding our website what should we do what our website what should we do what our website what should we do what platform should we use how should we platform should we use how should we platform should we use how should we build it should we use a designer should build it should we use a designer should build it should we use a designer should we not use a designer what happens in we not use a designer what happens in we not use a designer what happens in you know a moral crisis what is our you know a moral crisis what is our you know a moral crisis what is our crisis communication plan like there's crisis communication plan like there's crisis communication plan like there's some very like just basic things that I some very like just basic things that I some very like just basic things that I go over in that and so I think that has go over in that and so I think that has go over in that and so I think that has been really helpful for the church been really helpful for the church been really helpful for the church very much so because that you can just very much so because that you can just very much so because that you can just pull it off the shelf when you enter pull it off the shelf when you enter pull it off the shelf when you enter into one of those situations whatever into one of those situations whatever into one of those situations whatever that might be and there's an answer that might be and there's an answer that might be and there's an answer at the in that book and so you have at the in that book and so you have at the in that book and so you have taken the book now and you've put it taken the book now and you've put it taken the book now and you've put it into uh like a an online curriculum like into uh like a an online curriculum like into uh like a an online curriculum like a a a something you can actually go through something you can actually go through something you can actually go through and talk a little bit about what that's and talk a little bit about what that's and talk a little bit about what that's looking like and when that might release looking like and when that might release looking like and when that might release for our viewers and we can't give away for our viewers and we can't give away for our viewers and we can't give away too much Jason but yeah too much Jason but yeah too much Jason but yeah um we'll give away some you know I think um we'll give away some you know I think um we'll give away some you know I think um I think that we're still working on

um I think that we're still working on um I think that we're still working on the curriculum right now which is really the curriculum right now which is really the curriculum right now which is really great and recording all the videos and great and recording all the videos and great and recording all the videos and stuff to go along with it uh me teaching stuff to go along with it uh me teaching stuff to go along with it uh me teaching and and hopefully we're going to throw and and hopefully we're going to throw and and hopefully we're going to throw in some other people teaching just to in some other people teaching just to in some other people teaching just to just encourage everyone and and also just encourage everyone and and also just encourage everyone and and also because I think other people have better because I think other people have better because I think other people have better perspectives than I do necessarily on perspectives than I do necessarily on perspectives than I do necessarily on specific topics you know I I never uh specific topics you know I I never uh specific topics you know I I never uh well you know I take it back I have well you know I take it back I have well you know I take it back I have Brandon the church I'm supposed to say Brandon the church I'm supposed to say Brandon the church I'm supposed to say I've never branded a trip I have I don't I've never branded a trip I have I don't I've never branded a trip I have I don't know but like you know I don't know like know but like you know I don't know like know but like you know I don't know like I I may not have ever uh done some of I I may not have ever uh done some of I I may not have ever uh done some of these things and I think some people these things and I think some people these things and I think some people have walked through them more hand in have walked through them more hand in have walked through them more hand in hand than I have up and so getting their hand than I have up and so getting their hand than I have up and so getting their perspective is always good so we're perspective is always good so we're perspective is always good so we're coming up with this curriculum uh it'll coming up with this curriculum uh it'll coming up with this curriculum uh it'll be you know probably around 12 modules be you know probably around 12 modules be you know probably around 12 modules that you will walk through with that you will walk through with that you will walk through with hopefully some some homework and some hopefully some some homework and some hopefully some some homework and some quizzes and some guides on how to get quizzes and some guides on how to get quizzes and some guides on how to get started doing Church Communication in started doing Church Communication in started doing Church Communication in your church and I am excited about it your church and I am excited about it your church and I am excited about it because it's going to be very helpful because it's going to be very helpful because it's going to be very helpful for a lot of people and for a lot of people and for a lot of people and I think that we plan on at least doing I think that we plan on at least doing I think that we plan on at least doing some beta testing this summer and some beta testing this summer and some beta testing this summer and hopefully launching this fall we're hopefully launching this fall we're hopefully launching this fall we're gonna we're okay you're still crossed gonna we're okay you're still crossed gonna we're okay you're still crossed you know don't come back at me and be you know don't come back at me and be you know don't come back at me and be like I thought this was out um but at like I thought this was out um but at like I thought this was out um but at least that's my hope so yeah yeah we're least that's my hope so yeah yeah we're least that's my hope so yeah yeah we're excited about it uh because it is going excited about it uh because it is going excited about it uh because it is going to be a helpful guide and I'll tell you to be a helpful guide and I'll tell you to be a helpful guide and I'll tell you we talked with lots of churches we talked with lots of churches we talked with lots of churches sometimes you know the listeners you sometimes you know the listeners you sometimes you know the listeners you guys we we talk with you and you have a guys we we talk with you and you have a guys we we talk with you and you have a lot of questions sometimes you just run lot of questions sometimes you just run lot of questions sometimes you just run into things it happens all the time I

into things it happens all the time I into things it happens all the time I talk to a church not too long ago and talk to a church not too long ago and talk to a church not too long ago and they they had this crisis right the lead they they had this crisis right the lead they they had this crisis right the lead pastor abruptly resigned pastor abruptly resigned pastor abruptly resigned what do you do you know and so uh they what do you do you know and so uh they what do you do you know and so uh they we were able to speak into that but we were able to speak into that but we were able to speak into that but that's the kind of stuff I think it's that's the kind of stuff I think it's that's the kind of stuff I think it's gonna be really helpful for for our our gonna be really helpful for for our our gonna be really helpful for for our our listeners that are if you're in the listeners that are if you're in the listeners that are if you're in the church communication space at all you church communication space at all you church communication space at all you know your project manager or director a know your project manager or director a know your project manager or director a designer whatever you whatever role this designer whatever you whatever role this designer whatever you whatever role this curriculum is going to be really helpful curriculum is going to be really helpful curriculum is going to be really helpful for you so I'm super excited about to for you so I'm super excited about to for you so I'm super excited about to come out sometime here in 2023 we'll see come out sometime here in 2023 we'll see come out sometime here in 2023 we'll see um but it's going to be going to be good um but it's going to be going to be good um but it's going to be going to be good you know because I consider myself you know because I consider myself you know because I consider myself um pretty a pretty competent teacher and um pretty a pretty competent teacher and um pretty a pretty competent teacher and one of the things that I've learned over one of the things that I've learned over one of the things that I've learned over the years as a teacher is that not the years as a teacher is that not the years as a teacher is that not everyone can simply read a book and everyone can simply read a book and everyone can simply read a book and learn they need some more tactile learn they need some more tactile learn they need some more tactile experience and also need some of the experience and also need some of the experience and also need some of the visual aspect of it and so that's one of visual aspect of it and so that's one of visual aspect of it and so that's one of the things that excites me about taking the things that excites me about taking the things that excites me about taking the book where I'm sure that thousands the book where I'm sure that thousands the book where I'm sure that thousands upon thousands of people have benefited upon thousands of people have benefited upon thousands of people have benefited from reading the book there are some from reading the book there are some from reading the book there are some people that are just simply not going to people that are just simply not going to people that are just simply not going to get the most out of it simply by reading get the most out of it simply by reading get the most out of it simply by reading it and so being able to put it in a it and so being able to put it in a it and so being able to put it in a format that allows people to to walk format that allows people to to walk format that allows people to to walk through it at a pace that works for them through it at a pace that works for them through it at a pace that works for them with some exercises and things that they with some exercises and things that they with some exercises and things that they can actually put into practice and then can actually put into practice and then can actually put into practice and then hearing from some people who can teach hearing from some people who can teach hearing from some people who can teach and coach them through you know each of and coach them through you know each of and coach them through you know each of the the the units I I think it's very the the the units I I think it's very the the the units I I think it's very cool cool cool um there's there's no grade so this is um there's there's no grade so this is um there's there's no grade so this is not flashing back to your your college not flashing back to your your college not flashing back to your your college professor days where you have to grade professor days where you have to grade professor days where you have to grade papers you're creating a curriculum for papers you're creating a curriculum for papers you're creating a curriculum for which there are no grades right yeah of which there are no grades right yeah of which there are no grades right yeah of course well I mean I can grade you if

course well I mean I can grade you if course well I mean I can grade you if you would like me to I do have the you would like me to I do have the you would like me to I do have the rubrics so that is this is more for you know people who are this is more for you know people who are continuing their education but I do continuing their education but I do continuing their education but I do think you know it's going to be very think you know it's going to be very think you know it's going to be very helpful for so many people and I am helpful for so many people and I am helpful for so many people and I am excited to see what churches learn excited to see what churches learn excited to see what churches learn because I think that they're going to because I think that they're going to because I think that they're going to help me you know teach other churches as help me you know teach other churches as help me you know teach other churches as well along the way that's something I well along the way that's something I well along the way that's something I really enjoy is this energy that comes really enjoy is this energy that comes really enjoy is this energy that comes from people learning together and from people learning together and from people learning together and discussing discussing this and like you discussing discussing this and like you discussing discussing this and like you said Bart you know people you can read said Bart you know people you can read said Bart you know people you can read it it it um but I always like to think of when I um but I always like to think of when I um but I always like to think of when I was this actually goes back to my Camp was this actually goes back to my Camp was this actually goes back to my Camp days okay so when I taught Camp to you days okay so when I taught Camp to you days okay so when I taught Camp to you know I was a third through sixth grade know I was a third through sixth grade know I was a third through sixth grade Camp counseling and I remember them Camp counseling and I remember them Camp counseling and I remember them telling us in order for people to really telling us in order for people to really telling us in order for people to really understand or for children to learn understand or for children to learn understand or for children to learn really well they need to read it they really well they need to read it they really well they need to read it they need to hear it and then they need to do need to hear it and then they need to do need to hear it and then they need to do it it it and so you know we we've got the book and so you know we we've got the book and so you know we we've got the book you can read it you can read it you can read it um now you need to hear about it so you um now you need to hear about it so you um now you need to hear about it so you need to like listen to the curriculum need to like listen to the curriculum need to like listen to the curriculum and then and do it and I think doing it and then and do it and I think doing it and then and do it and I think doing it together with people is always really together with people is always really together with people is always really helpful helpful helpful that's really well said yeah that's that's really well said yeah that's that's really well said yeah that's gonna be fun all right well we'll we'll gonna be fun all right well we'll we'll gonna be fun all right well we'll we'll uh wait until that comes out uh wait until that comes out uh wait until that comes out next thing I want to talk about though next thing I want to talk about though next thing I want to talk about though Katie is there's a conference coming up Katie is there's a conference coming up Katie is there's a conference coming up real soon real soon real soon um in June end of June and it's the um in June end of June and it's the um in June end of June and it's the church Innovation Summits the AI Church church Innovation Summits the AI Church church Innovation Summits the AI Church AI Innovation Summit I want will you AI Innovation Summit I want will you AI Innovation Summit I want will you talk a little bit about what is that and

talk a little bit about what is that and talk a little bit about what is that and why are we putting together a summit on why are we putting together a summit on why are we putting together a summit on AI AI AI yeah so it's Church Innovations yeah so it's Church Innovations yeah so it's Church Innovations summit.com for anybody who's interested summit.com for anybody who's interested summit.com for anybody who's interested in registering totally free we do have in registering totally free we do have in registering totally free we do have an all access replay pass if you want to an all access replay pass if you want to an all access replay pass if you want to get the bonus stuff or you want to watch get the bonus stuff or you want to watch get the bonus stuff or you want to watch it six months or so afterwards but what it six months or so afterwards but what it six months or so afterwards but what I love about this and and the church I love about this and and the church I love about this and and the church Innovation summit we're hoping will Innovation summit we're hoping will Innovation summit we're hoping will become an annual Network where we'll become an annual Network where we'll become an annual Network where we'll find out but you know this one's focused find out but you know this one's focused find out but you know this one's focused directly on artificial intelligence and directly on artificial intelligence and directly on artificial intelligence and something I just I don't know there's so something I just I don't know there's so something I just I don't know there's so many neat things that have come out if many neat things that have come out if many neat things that have come out if you haven't already experienced chat GPT you haven't already experienced chat GPT you haven't already experienced chat GPT I highly recommend getting in there it's I highly recommend getting in there it's I highly recommend getting in there it's free and just uh playing around with it free and just uh playing around with it free and just uh playing around with it but I think that there's so many new but I think that there's so many new but I think that there's so many new technologies now that can make your job technologies now that can make your job technologies now that can make your job at the church especially as a church at the church especially as a church at the church especially as a church Communicator so much easier there's logo Communicator so much easier there's logo Communicator so much easier there's logo creators that are AI based there's creators that are AI based there's creators that are AI based there's headshot generators and so how many headshot generators and so how many headshot generators and so how many times have you needed a good headshot of times have you needed a good headshot of times have you needed a good headshot of your pastor and couldn't get one right your pastor and couldn't get one right your pastor and couldn't get one right and now you can pay 17 and upload a and now you can pay 17 and upload a and now you can pay 17 and upload a bunch of random photos I'm with his bunch of random photos I'm with his bunch of random photos I'm with his grandkids he just got out his head and grandkids he just got out his head and grandkids he just got out his head and then you can end up with some then you can end up with some then you can end up with some professional headshots of them so I professional headshots of them so I professional headshots of them so I think like there's so many good things think like there's so many good things think like there's so many good things yeah they're coming because of AI yeah they're coming because of AI yeah they're coming because of AI I didn't know you could do that but I've I didn't know you could do that but I've I didn't know you could do that but I've got a few pictures of Jason Hamrock I'm got a few pictures of Jason Hamrock I'm got a few pictures of Jason Hamrock I'm gonna see what kind of headshot oh come gonna see what kind of headshot oh come gonna see what kind of headshot oh come on now yeah all right that's fine I'll on now yeah all right that's fine I'll on now yeah all right that's fine I'll send you the website after this but send you the website after this but send you the website after this but obviously you can just look up headshot obviously you can just look up headshot obviously you can just look up headshot generator AI or whatever but yeah even

generator AI or whatever but yeah even generator AI or whatever but yeah even Canada now has AI tools where you can Canada now has AI tools where you can Canada now has AI tools where you can just like select a person a part of a just like select a person a part of a just like select a person a part of a person's shirt and say change this shirt person's shirt and say change this shirt person's shirt and say change this shirt to a professional shirt to a professional shirt to a professional shirt and it will change the shirt or change and it will change the shirt or change and it will change the shirt or change the background like you can even do all the background like you can even do all the background like you can even do all that in canva now so there's so much that in canva now so there's so much that in canva now so there's so much coming that I want to help people coming that I want to help people coming that I want to help people understand it and navigate it because I understand it and navigate it because I understand it and navigate it because I think it's going to make their jobs think it's going to make their jobs think it's going to make their jobs easier but also because I don't want easier but also because I don't want easier but also because I don't want them to be behind them to be behind them to be behind yeah yeah yeah yeah I I agree with you and I think that yeah I I agree with you and I think that yeah I I agree with you and I think that like you just said it kind of it's going like you just said it kind of it's going like you just said it kind of it's going to affect Church communication staff but to affect Church communication staff but to affect Church communication staff but it's also going to affect how people it's also going to affect how people it's also going to affect how people write pastors preachers how you write a write pastors preachers how you write a write pastors preachers how you write a sermon yeah yeah and it is advancing sermon yeah yeah and it is advancing sermon yeah yeah and it is advancing fast fast fast um so it you know we're gonna do our um so it you know we're gonna do our um so it you know we're gonna do our best in this conference to kind of we're best in this conference to kind of we're best in this conference to kind of we're gonna we've invited a bunch of people gonna we've invited a bunch of people gonna we've invited a bunch of people who are who are who are as as expert as you can be in this field as as expert as you can be in this field as as expert as you can be in this field that's just evolving daily uh they're that's just evolving daily uh they're that's just evolving daily uh they're for them to talk about how this is going for them to talk about how this is going for them to talk about how this is going to impact to impact to impact you and your job your church and what you and your job your church and what you and your job your church and what that all means and that's going to be a that all means and that's going to be a that all means and that's going to be a a fun I think it's gonna be a really fun a fun I think it's gonna be a really fun a fun I think it's gonna be a really fun free free free conference yeah we'll make sure to link conference yeah we'll make sure to link conference yeah we'll make sure to link to church Innovation summit.com in the to church Innovation summit.com in the to church Innovation summit.com in the show notes so if you happen to be show notes so if you happen to be show notes so if you happen to be driving right now and you can't remember driving right now and you can't remember driving right now and you can't remember just go to the show notes go to our just go to the show notes go to our just go to the show notes go to our website missionalmarketing.com go to the website missionalmarketing.com go to the website missionalmarketing.com go to the podcast page and we'll make sure that we podcast page and we'll make sure that we podcast page and we'll make sure that we link to that if you can't remember it so link to that if you can't remember it so link to that if you can't remember it so very excited about that we've got a very excited about that we've got a very excited about that we've got a couple of the missional marketing team couple of the missional marketing team couple of the missional marketing team members who are probably like the two

members who are probably like the two members who are probably like the two smartest people that we have on our team smartest people that we have on our team smartest people that we have on our team who are going to be part of the who are going to be part of the who are going to be part of the conference as well some other guests conference as well some other guests conference as well some other guests that's not Jason and Bart no definitely that's not Jason and Bart no definitely that's not Jason and Bart no definitely not well one of them is Jason one of not well one of them is Jason one of not well one of them is Jason one of them is Jason it's just a different them is Jason it's just a different them is Jason it's just a different Jason you'll actually if you if you tune Jason you'll actually if you if you tune Jason you'll actually if you if you tune into the conference you will hear the into the conference you will hear the into the conference you will hear the smartest Jason we have on our team we smartest Jason we have on our team we smartest Jason we have on our team we actually have several jasons and you actually have several jasons and you actually have several jasons and you might rank like number three or four might rank like number three or four might rank like number three or four months I'm at the bottom okay no offense months I'm at the bottom okay no offense months I'm at the bottom okay no offense it's just that these guys are like they it's just that these guys are like they it's just that these guys are like they are technical Wizards like Jason Jason are technical Wizards like Jason Jason are technical Wizards like Jason Jason is very good at a lot of things but when is very good at a lot of things but when is very good at a lot of things but when it comes to the technical stuff these it comes to the technical stuff these it comes to the technical stuff these guys like they know the ones in the guys like they know the ones in the guys like they know the ones in the zeros in ways that we can never even zeros in ways that we can never even zeros in ways that we can never even imagine understanding the ones in zero imagine understanding the ones in zero imagine understanding the ones in zero so very cool sometimes I miss that like so very cool sometimes I miss that like so very cool sometimes I miss that like I used to be a ones and zero girl and I used to be a ones and zero girl and I used to be a ones and zero girl and now I'm just like not in that world now I'm just like not in that world now I'm just like not in that world anymore sometimes I'm like I miss it anymore sometimes I'm like I miss it anymore sometimes I'm like I miss it let's get back to that I'm just taking let's get back to that I'm just taking let's get back to that I'm just taking apart in networks and oh yeah yeah not apart in networks and oh yeah yeah not apart in networks and oh yeah yeah not my thing and put them back together and and build and put them back together and and build CAT5 and all sorts of crazy stuff I know CAT5 and all sorts of crazy stuff I know CAT5 and all sorts of crazy stuff I know yeah yep there you go I don't know yeah yep there you go I don't know yeah yep there you go I don't know we're not going to talk about CAT5 in we're not going to talk about CAT5 in we're not going to talk about CAT5 in the church Innovation Summit I no the church Innovation Summit I no the church Innovation Summit I no guarantee you that if you need to know guarantee you that if you need to know guarantee you that if you need to know how to make it you can send me a DM on how to make it you can send me a DM on how to make it you can send me a DM on Facebook and I will tell you how to do Facebook and I will tell you how to do Facebook and I will tell you how to do it okay it okay it okay just in case just in case you can't find just in case just in case you can't find just in case just in case you can't find the YouTube video that helps just DMK no the YouTube video that helps just DMK no the YouTube video that helps just DMK no just DMP like

just DMP like just DMP like okay so it sounds like you actually have okay so it sounds like you actually have okay so it sounds like you actually have a need that be a need to be filled a need that be a need to be filled a need that be a need to be filled somewhere with that geeky stuff so all somewhere with that geeky stuff so all somewhere with that geeky stuff so all right I think I miss teachings got it right I think I miss teachings got it right I think I miss teachings got it all right all right hey we got one more all right all right hey we got one more all right all right hey we got one more thing that we need to talk about thing that we need to talk about thing that we need to talk about something that's coming in the fall something that's coming in the fall something that's coming in the fall Jason yeah well uh talk so so we're Jason yeah well uh talk so so we're Jason yeah well uh talk so so we're having a church a Communications having a church a Communications having a church a Communications conference it's come at the end of conference it's come at the end of conference it's come at the end of September a lot more details to come out September a lot more details to come out September a lot more details to come out on that we're really excited to uh be on that we're really excited to uh be on that we're really excited to uh be obviously be partnered together in in obviously be partnered together in in obviously be partnered together in in this with this conference but you you this with this conference but you you this with this conference but you you did one last year you did kind of like did one last year you did kind of like did one last year you did kind of like the the the the inaugural kickoff if you will the inaugural kickoff if you will the inaugural kickoff if you will because I think we did it in the past because I think we did it in the past because I think we did it in the past but Cove and all that kind of stuff so but Cove and all that kind of stuff so but Cove and all that kind of stuff so talk a little bit about what happened talk a little bit about what happened talk a little bit about what happened last year and then what we can last year and then what we can last year and then what we can anticipate this coming year anticipate this coming year anticipate this coming year yeah so last year what I really loved yeah so last year what I really loved yeah so last year what I really loved was that we kind of zero based it from was that we kind of zero based it from was that we kind of zero based it from any conference it that had ever like any conference it that had ever like any conference it that had ever like attended really I wanted to do something attended really I wanted to do something attended really I wanted to do something different and I don't know if you ever different and I don't know if you ever different and I don't know if you ever heard out the term unconference but I heard out the term unconference but I heard out the term unconference but I almost wanted to unconference it and so almost wanted to unconference it and so almost wanted to unconference it and so what we did was almost made it more what we did was almost made it more what we did was almost made it more academic honestly so we had only we only academic honestly so we had only we only academic honestly so we had only we only had a few speakers like a handful of had a few speakers like a handful of had a few speakers like a handful of speakers we had four speakers and after speakers we had four speakers and after speakers we had four speakers and after each talk we broke down and at our at each talk we broke down and at our at each talk we broke down and at our at our tables and discussed and had a our tables and discussed and had a our tables and discussed and had a workbook and kind of discuss what they workbook and kind of discuss what they workbook and kind of discuss what they what how what they spoke about and how what how what they spoke about and how what how what they spoke about and how it can apply to your church in your it can apply to your church in your it can apply to your church in your context specifically and to me like context specifically and to me like context specifically and to me like learning from others and networking with learning from others and networking with learning from others and networking with other Church communicators is where the

other Church communicators is where the other Church communicators is where the gold is I think that that for our gold is I think that that for our gold is I think that that for our community is where the gold is the fact community is where the gold is the fact community is where the gold is the fact that we have all these opinions and all that we have all these opinions and all that we have all these opinions and all these different ways that we have done these different ways that we have done these different ways that we have done things it's some thing that just cannot things it's some thing that just cannot things it's some thing that just cannot be recreated anywhere else you could be recreated anywhere else you could be recreated anywhere else you could have a million experts but you only have have a million experts but you only have have a million experts but you only have one group with a thousand people have one group with a thousand people have one group with a thousand people have actually done it right actually done it right actually done it right and so I think like I like to consider and so I think like I like to consider and so I think like I like to consider that all these people that all these people that all these people are the experts and how do we flip it are the experts and how do we flip it are the experts and how do we flip it the script right like how do we make it the script right like how do we make it the script right like how do we make it not so much about the speakers and who not so much about the speakers and who not so much about the speakers and who what they're presenting but about the what they're presenting but about the what they're presenting but about the people around the table and who they are people around the table and who they are people around the table and who they are and how they operate and how they can and how they operate and how they can and how they operate and how they can learn from one another learn from one another learn from one another is even the beginner Church Communicator is even the beginner Church Communicator is even the beginner Church Communicator can offer something new to a person can offer something new to a person can offer something new to a person who's been doing it for 50 years or you who's been doing it for 50 years or you who's been doing it for 50 years or you know in Reverse right uh I think that know in Reverse right uh I think that know in Reverse right uh I think that there's a lot that can be learned from there's a lot that can be learned from there's a lot that can be learned from someone who's been doing this for so someone who's been doing this for so someone who's been doing this for so long and so I think that that's what I long and so I think that that's what I long and so I think that that's what I really love about our conference and really love about our conference and really love about our conference and about our conferences and what's coming about our conferences and what's coming about our conferences and what's coming up is is the community aspect of it all up is is the community aspect of it all up is is the community aspect of it all of really focusing on the people and not of really focusing on the people and not of really focusing on the people and not so much the like I don't know breakout so much the like I don't know breakout so much the like I don't know breakout sessions kingdoms that's fine and you're sessions kingdoms that's fine and you're sessions kingdoms that's fine and you're gonna get that like you can go there's a gonna get that like you can go there's a gonna get that like you can go there's a million conferences you can get that million conferences you can get that million conferences you can get that anywhere that's fine um I'm not mad at anywhere that's fine um I'm not mad at anywhere that's fine um I'm not mad at those places those places those places um yeah yeah they're great yeah they're um yeah yeah they're great yeah they're um yeah yeah they're great yeah they're right uh for someone right uh for someone right uh for someone um but what I really want to do is um but what I really want to do is um but what I really want to do is celebrate our community really well and celebrate our community really well and celebrate our community really well and learn together

learn together learn together and get that energy that only comes from and get that energy that only comes from and get that energy that only comes from us being together and so we encourage us being together and so we encourage us being together and so we encourage our sponsors even to like be a part of our sponsors even to like be a part of our sponsors even to like be a part of the room like we don't want anybody like the room like we don't want anybody like the room like we don't want anybody like feeling left out like we want every feeling left out like we want every feeling left out like we want every Everybody working together to think Everybody working together to think Everybody working together to think collaboratively so Bart you were did you collaboratively so Bart you were did you collaboratively so Bart you were did you come last year no tell me a little bit come last year no tell me a little bit come last year no tell me a little bit more about your experience yeah yeah I more about your experience yeah yeah I more about your experience yeah yeah I was I was there and uh feeling's a was I was there and uh feeling's a was I was there and uh feeling's a little hurt that you don't remember that little hurt that you don't remember that little hurt that you don't remember that I was there but I was there I thought I was there but I was there I thought I was there but I was there I thought you were there but then my brain went you were there but then my brain went you were there but then my brain went you had a whole you had a whole lot of you had a whole you had a whole lot of you had a whole you had a whole lot of stuff going on though yeah it's been a stuff going on though yeah it's been a stuff going on though yeah it's been a day for me yeah it's okay it uh here's day for me yeah it's okay it uh here's day for me yeah it's okay it uh here's the experience and if I were trying to the experience and if I were trying to the experience and if I were trying to help someone make a decision about help someone make a decision about help someone make a decision about whether or not they should go these are whether or not they should go these are whether or not they should go these are the reasons that I think they ought to the reasons that I think they ought to the reasons that I think they ought to go number one the conference is go number one the conference is go number one the conference is authentic to who the church comms group authentic to who the church comms group authentic to who the church comms group is it's not like the church comes group is it's not like the church comes group is it's not like the church comes group is trying to put on some conference and is trying to put on some conference and is trying to put on some conference and be something we're not you talked about be something we're not you talked about be something we're not you talked about the authenticity the emphasis of the the authenticity the emphasis of the the authenticity the emphasis of the community and a hundred percent you get community and a hundred percent you get community and a hundred percent you get to know people a lot of them face to to know people a lot of them face to to know people a lot of them face to face that you maybe have even interacted face that you maybe have even interacted face that you maybe have even interacted with in the church Communications Group with in the church Communications Group with in the church Communications Group which is very cool I actually got to be which is very cool I actually got to be which is very cool I actually got to be a table facilitator and a table facilitator and a table facilitator and um sat around a table with you know um sat around a table with you know um sat around a table with you know seven eight other people who weren't seven eight other people who weren't seven eight other people who weren't just church Communications professionals just church Communications professionals just church Communications professionals there were people at the table who were there were people at the table who were there were people at the table who were the pastors Administrative Assistant who the pastors Administrative Assistant who the pastors Administrative Assistant who also happens to have the responsibility also happens to have the responsibility also happens to have the responsibility for the social media accounts and the for the social media accounts and the for the social media accounts and the Weekly Newsletter and things like that Weekly Newsletter and things like that Weekly Newsletter and things like that and sitting right next to her across the and sitting right next to her across the and sitting right next to her across the table from from that person was someone

table from from that person was someone table from from that person was someone who's been a church communications who's been a church communications who's been a church communications director for a decade or more and the director for a decade or more and the director for a decade or more and the conversation around the table after each conversation around the table after each conversation around the table after each presenter kind of presented their presenter kind of presented their presenter kind of presented their content was just really cool because it content was just really cool because it content was just really cool because it was really it was like a cohort or a was really it was like a cohort or a was really it was like a cohort or a mastermind of people sharing ideas mastermind of people sharing ideas mastermind of people sharing ideas sharing their experiences and really sharing their experiences and really sharing their experiences and really just blessing each other we had people just blessing each other we had people just blessing each other we had people at the table who were coming from at the table who were coming from at the table who were coming from churches of you know a thousand fifteen churches of you know a thousand fifteen churches of you know a thousand fifteen hundred two thousand people we had hundred two thousand people we had hundred two thousand people we had people sitting at the table in churches people sitting at the table in churches people sitting at the table in churches of 150 to you know 200 250 people so of 150 to you know 200 250 people so of 150 to you know 200 250 people so this conference isn't just for like the this conference isn't just for like the this conference isn't just for like the High Level Church comms people it's also High Level Church comms people it's also High Level Church comms people it's also not just for entry level I don't know not just for entry level I don't know not just for entry level I don't know anything about church Communications it anything about church Communications it anything about church Communications it is really an invitation to come be a is really an invitation to come be a is really an invitation to come be a part of the community in person just part of the community in person just part of the community in person just like you would like you would like you would um if you were in the group where um if you were in the group where um if you were in the group where anybody who has expertise and experience anybody who has expertise and experience anybody who has expertise and experience in something can be a blessing to in something can be a blessing to in something can be a blessing to somebody else and final note we were somebody else and final note we were somebody else and final note we were really well fed Katie I don't know who really well fed Katie I don't know who really well fed Katie I don't know who was responsible for putting together the was responsible for putting together the was responsible for putting together the lunches that was me that was you I love lunches that was me that was you I love lunches that was me that was you I love food so I would I would go I'm sure that food so I would I would go I'm sure that food so I would I would go I'm sure that you're I was a great southern baptist you're I was a great southern baptist you're I was a great southern baptist and and and um that means I have to eat at least um that means I have to eat at least um that means I have to eat at least every three hours or I will die yeah so every three hours or I will die yeah so every three hours or I will die yeah so yeah no I'm gonna make sure that there's yeah no I'm gonna make sure that there's yeah no I'm gonna make sure that there's food so yeah we had Donuts last time in food so yeah we had Donuts last time in food so yeah we had Donuts last time in the morning and we had snacks throughout the morning and we had snacks throughout the morning and we had snacks throughout the day and then we had hot chicken hot the day and then we had hot chicken hot the day and then we had hot chicken hot chicken won't forget the hot chicken and chicken won't forget the hot chicken and chicken won't forget the hot chicken and there was so much of it too so you know there was so much of it too so you know there was so much of it too so you know what if you come it's an opportunity to what if you come it's an opportunity to what if you come it's an opportunity to hang out with people that you can build

hang out with people that you can build hang out with people that you can build some real relationships with and some real relationships with and some real relationships with and and enjoy meals together if you don't and enjoy meals together if you don't and enjoy meals together if you don't get anything else out of it it's a great get anything else out of it it's a great get anything else out of it it's a great it's a great time to eat so there's my it's a great time to eat so there's my it's a great time to eat so there's my there's my plug uh dates are September there's my plug uh dates are September there's my plug uh dates are September 21st and 22nd 21st and 22nd 21st and 22nd um are we in Nashville again what's the um are we in Nashville again what's the um are we in Nashville again what's the location is that the plan or do we have location is that the plan or do we have location is that the plan or do we have a location nailed down yet we are a location nailed down yet we are a location nailed down yet we are working on that it's going to be the working on that it's going to be the working on that it's going to be the Nashville area again okay and uh we're Nashville area again okay and uh we're Nashville area again okay and uh we're kind of working on all those details I'm kind of working on all those details I'm kind of working on all those details I'm really excited about this year's really excited about this year's really excited about this year's theme theme theme um I and we came up with this one um I and we came up with this one um I and we came up with this one because it just seems like there's so because it just seems like there's so because it just seems like there's so much change going on uh around us much change going on uh around us much change going on uh around us outside the church right and even inside outside the church right and even inside outside the church right and even inside the church and just the way we do church the church and just the way we do church the church and just the way we do church and so our theme this year's um the next and so our theme this year's um the next and so our theme this year's um the next era and how we can really look towards era and how we can really look towards era and how we can really look towards the future and some of this is there's a the future and some of this is there's a the future and some of this is there's a reason why we're doing the AI conference reason why we're doing the AI conference reason why we're doing the AI conference coming up because that's that's going to coming up because that's that's going to coming up because that's that's going to be part of what what's happening with be part of what what's happening with be part of what what's happening with how we do Church Communications in this how we do Church Communications in this how we do Church Communications in this drastically changing air coming out of drastically changing air coming out of drastically changing air coming out of kind of covid and right and every a lot kind of covid and right and every a lot kind of covid and right and every a lot of churches are growing which is so of churches are growing which is so of churches are growing which is so thank you Jesus because I we're on a thank you Jesus because I we're on a thank you Jesus because I we're on a college with a lot of churches and college with a lot of churches and college with a lot of churches and they're just their record attendance at they're just their record attendance at they're just their record attendance at Easter which happened not too long ago Easter which happened not too long ago Easter which happened not too long ago and more and more people are coming back and more and more people are coming back and more and more people are coming back so how do you deal with all that how do so how do you deal with all that how do so how do you deal with all that how do you deal with all the things that you you deal with all the things that you you deal with all the things that you know Katie talked about anything from know Katie talked about anything from know Katie talked about anything from social media to staff changes to just social media to staff changes to just social media to staff changes to just things that happen inside the church in things that happen inside the church in things that happen inside the church in your department and how do you handle your department and how do you handle your department and how do you handle that we want to really kind of tackle that we want to really kind of tackle that we want to really kind of tackle that and and speak into it and that and and speak into it and that and and speak into it and collaborate this can be fun

collaborate this can be fun collaborate this can be fun yeah so it's going to be in late yeah so it's going to be in late yeah so it's going to be in late September we're still nailing down the September we're still nailing down the September we're still nailing down the exact specific date so it's gonna be exact specific date so it's gonna be exact specific date so it's gonna be that week so don't worry but uh just check but uh just check churchcommunications.com we're going to churchcommunications.com we're going to churchcommunications.com we're going to be posting more relevant information be posting more relevant information be posting more relevant information obviously join the group if you haven't obviously join the group if you haven't obviously join the group if you haven't we'll be posting relevant information in we'll be posting relevant information in we'll be posting relevant information in there and I am really looking forward to there and I am really looking forward to there and I am really looking forward to it we're still nailing down the venue it we're still nailing down the venue it we're still nailing down the venue but it's gonna be it's gonna be but it's gonna be it's gonna be but it's gonna be it's gonna be incredible and I'm really excited to incredible and I'm really excited to incredible and I'm really excited to just spend some time with our people just spend some time with our people just spend some time with our people again but in Nashville Tennessee again again but in Nashville Tennessee again again but in Nashville Tennessee again because that's my homeland I'm forcing because that's my homeland I'm forcing because that's my homeland I'm forcing everyone to come here because I think everyone to come here because I think everyone to come here because I think it's the best place in a better place to it's the best place in a better place to it's the best place in a better place to go go go it's a good place there's great music it's a good place there's great music it's a good place there's great music there's good food so and then you could there's good food so and then you could there's good food so and then you could just like take some time and enjoy enjoy just like take some time and enjoy enjoy just like take some time and enjoy enjoy it with your team if you want so I you it with your team if you want so I you it with your team if you want so I you know that's that's what I think at least know that's that's what I think at least know that's that's what I think at least I agree I agree Nashville at the end of I agree I agree Nashville at the end of I agree I agree Nashville at the end of September it's gonna be nice it's nice September it's gonna be nice it's nice September it's gonna be nice it's nice all right we need to rep this podcast all right we need to rep this podcast all right we need to rep this podcast episode up uh give each of you an episode up uh give each of you an episode up uh give each of you an opportunity to kind of give a Parting opportunity to kind of give a Parting opportunity to kind of give a Parting Shot Shot Shot um we'll start with you Jason we'll let um we'll start with you Jason we'll let um we'll start with you Jason we'll let Katie have the last one Jason anything Katie have the last one Jason anything Katie have the last one Jason anything that you want to just kind of share as that you want to just kind of share as that you want to just kind of share as you know a lot of churches as they you know a lot of churches as they you know a lot of churches as they listen to this are moving towards the listen to this are moving towards the listen to this are moving towards the summer months um any encouragement any summer months um any encouragement any summer months um any encouragement any special words anything that you wanna or for our guests yeah it seems like or for our guests yeah it seems like there's there has been this it's there's there has been this it's there's there has been this it's probably in your church too there's probably in your church too there's probably in your church too there's there's been a little bit of a wave of there's been a little bit of a wave of there's been a little bit of a wave of more and more people attending and I more and more people attending and I more and more people attending and I want to encourage you to not lose sight want to encourage you to not lose sight want to encourage you to not lose sight of those people that that uh come to

of those people that that uh come to of those people that that uh come to your church and give you some your church and give you some your church and give you some information especially if you're information especially if you're information especially if you're generating emails communicate with them generating emails communicate with them generating emails communicate with them don't just assume that they're going to don't just assume that they're going to don't just assume that they're going to come back and so come back and so come back and so um that's my Parting Shot is that um that's my Parting Shot is that um that's my Parting Shot is that throughout this summer into the fall you throughout this summer into the fall you throughout this summer into the fall you really want to be focused on how do you really want to be focused on how do you really want to be focused on how do you continue to cultivate new people that continue to cultivate new people that continue to cultivate new people that are showing up to your church and um are showing up to your church and um are showing up to your church and um don't just kind of hope they show back don't just kind of hope they show back don't just kind of hope they show back up again you have to be somewhat up again you have to be somewhat up again you have to be somewhat intentional to connect with them and intentional to connect with them and intentional to connect with them and that will pay off that will pay off that will pay off big time if you actually take the time big time if you actually take the time big time if you actually take the time to you know connect with them and to you know connect with them and to you know connect with them and sometimes that's your job as a comp sometimes that's your job as a comp sometimes that's your job as a comp director through you know emails director through you know emails director through you know emails sometimes that's ministry's job to pick sometimes that's ministry's job to pick sometimes that's ministry's job to pick up the phone you know the phone actually up the phone you know the phone actually up the phone you know the phone actually call like that's a foreign concept to call like that's a foreign concept to call like that's a foreign concept to some Churches call people yeah you do some Churches call people yeah you do some Churches call people yeah you do you want to connect with people that's you want to connect with people that's you want to connect with people that's that's one of the best things you can do that's one of the best things you can do that's one of the best things you can do so that's my parting shot and keep the so that's my parting shot and keep the so that's my parting shot and keep the momentum going momentum going momentum going yeah over to you parting shots yeah over to you parting shots yeah over to you parting shots okay so I think and I've said this a okay so I think and I've said this a okay so I think and I've said this a million times life change happens in the million times life change happens in the million times life change happens in the context of relationship and like Jason context of relationship and like Jason context of relationship and like Jason said you've gotta build those said you've gotta build those said you've gotta build those relationships I think like Jason said relationships I think like Jason said relationships I think like Jason said I've seen a lot of new people come to I've seen a lot of new people come to I've seen a lot of new people come to our church too uh and so just seeing it our church too uh and so just seeing it our church too uh and so just seeing it grow is always a really wonderful thing grow is always a really wonderful thing grow is always a really wonderful thing and people are coming to hear uh the and people are coming to hear uh the and people are coming to hear uh the gospel and also to find Community I gospel and also to find Community I gospel and also to find Community I think that that's the funny part right think that that's the funny part right think that that's the funny part right is that people come to our online is that people come to our online is that people come to our online community to find Community because they community to find Community because they community to find Community because they are lonely in their job but then people are lonely in their job but then people are lonely in their job but then people come to church to find Community locally come to church to find Community locally come to church to find Community locally because they're you know growing and because they're you know growing and because they're you know growing and learning and doing new things in their

learning and doing new things in their learning and doing new things in their community and so yeah I think like community and so yeah I think like community and so yeah I think like figuring out how to make more of those figuring out how to make more of those figuring out how to make more of those connections and actually keep up with connections and actually keep up with connections and actually keep up with them is you know our next like big them is you know our next like big them is you know our next like big parade and I know that obviously there's parade and I know that obviously there's parade and I know that obviously there's crms and CHMS systems and there's crms and CHMS systems and there's crms and CHMS systems and there's different ways but you're right I don't different ways but you're right I don't different ways but you're right I don't think there's anything you know better think there's anything you know better think there's anything you know better sometimes than just the old-fashioned sometimes than just the old-fashioned sometimes than just the old-fashioned connection of of picking up the phone or connection of of picking up the phone or connection of of picking up the phone or obviously texting or they're you know my obviously texting or they're you know my obviously texting or they're you know my church emailed me with like a whole church emailed me with like a whole church emailed me with like a whole bunch of questions because they're like bunch of questions because they're like bunch of questions because they're like what do you do exactly and so I remember what do you do exactly and so I remember what do you do exactly and so I remember getting that email and be excited to getting that email and be excited to getting that email and be excited to like meet with them and and those kind like meet with them and and those kind like meet with them and and those kind of things so that was a lot of fun so I of things so that was a lot of fun so I of things so that was a lot of fun so I I recommend you know actually just I recommend you know actually just I recommend you know actually just reaching out to people and and looking reaching out to people and and looking reaching out to people and and looking them up adding them on Facebook adding them up adding them on Facebook adding them up adding them on Facebook adding them on Instagram like I think that's them on Instagram like I think that's them on Instagram like I think that's also a new and fun way to like actually also a new and fun way to like actually also a new and fun way to like actually follow up with people follow up with people follow up with people yeah agreed boom hey thank you guys so yeah agreed boom hey thank you guys so yeah agreed boom hey thank you guys so much for hanging out with me it's been a much for hanging out with me it's been a much for hanging out with me it's been a privilege to hang out with both of you I privilege to hang out with both of you I privilege to hang out with both of you I respect both of you a ton in what you do respect both of you a ton in what you do respect both of you a ton in what you do and the company that you lead the and the company that you lead the and the company that you lead the organizations that you lead and for all organizations that you lead and for all organizations that you lead and for all of our listeners thanks again for tuning of our listeners thanks again for tuning of our listeners thanks again for tuning in in in um if you're not subscribed where you're um if you're not subscribed where you're um if you're not subscribed where you're listening to the podcast make sure that listening to the podcast make sure that listening to the podcast make sure that you subscribe give us a review we prefer you subscribe give us a review we prefer you subscribe give us a review we prefer a five star review we'll take a four a five star review we'll take a four a five star review we'll take a four star but we really prefer five stars star but we really prefer five stars star but we really prefer five stars that will feed the algorithm of the uh that will feed the algorithm of the uh that will feed the algorithm of the uh podcast world and if make sure that if podcast world and if make sure that if podcast world and if make sure that if you're watching on YouTube that you you're watching on YouTube that you you're watching on YouTube that you don't just subscribe but you ring the don't just subscribe but you ring the don't just subscribe but you ring the bell so that you get notified about bell so that you get notified about bell so that you get notified about future episodes thanks again Katie Jason

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