Ep. 13: Expanding Sermon Impact: Harnessing Short-Form Video Power with Corey Alderin

welcome to episode 12 of the AI for welcome to episode 12 of the AI for churches podcast in today's episode churches podcast in today's episode churches podcast in today's episode we'll discuss new research that shows we'll discuss new research that shows we'll discuss new research that shows Christians aren't big fans of AI and I Christians aren't big fans of AI and I Christians aren't big fans of AI and I recently sat down with Corey Udin recently sat down with Corey Udin recently sat down with Corey Udin co-founder of sermon shot to discuss the co-founder of sermon shot to discuss the co-founder of sermon shot to discuss the value of creating sermon Clips with AI value of creating sermon Clips with AI value of creating sermon Clips with AI let's get started welcome to the AI for let's get started welcome to the AI for let's get started welcome to the AI for Church's podcast our goal is to equip Church's podcast our goal is to equip Church's podcast our goal is to equip pastors and church leaders with pastors and church leaders with pastors and church leaders with resources related to artificial resources related to artificial resources related to artificial intelligence helpful for sermon prep intelligence helpful for sermon prep intelligence helpful for sermon prep creative Ministries Outreach and more we creative Ministries Outreach and more we creative Ministries Outreach and more we do this by providing exclusive insights do this by providing exclusive insights do this by providing exclusive insights from AI experts church leaders and from AI experts church leaders and from AI experts church leaders and innovators actively leveraging AI to innovators actively leveraging AI to innovators actively leveraging AI to amplify the gospel and reach more people amplify the gospel and reach more people amplify the gospel and reach more people for Jesus Christ here are your hosts for Jesus Christ here are your hosts for Jesus Christ here are your hosts Bart Blair and Dr David Bart Blair and Dr David Bart Blair and Dr David Thorne well hey there welcome to episode Thorne well hey there welcome to episode Thorne well hey there welcome to episode 12 of the AI for churches podcast Bart 12 of the AI for churches podcast Bart 12 of the AI for churches podcast Bart Blair here with Dr David Thorne good day Blair here with Dr David Thorne good day Blair here with Dr David Thorne good day to you David and good day to you as well to you David and good day to you as well to you David and good day to you as well fine sir it is a good day to talk about fine sir it is a good day to talk about fine sir it is a good day to talk about Ai and that's what we're going to do if Ai and that's what we're going to do if Ai and that's what we're going to do if you happen to be new to the podcast and you happen to be new to the podcast and you happen to be new to the podcast and you haven't uh checked out previous you haven't uh checked out previous you haven't uh checked out previous episodes make sure that you do that if episodes make sure that you do that if episodes make sure that you do that if you haven't subscribed wherever you you haven't subscribed wherever you you haven't subscribed wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts make listen to your favorite podcasts make listen to your favorite podcasts make sure that you do so there if you happen sure that you do so there if you happen sure that you do so there if you happen to be watching on our YouTube channel to be watching on our YouTube channel to be watching on our YouTube channel make sure that you subscribe and ring make sure that you subscribe and ring make sure that you subscribe and ring the bell so that you get notified when the bell so that you get notified when the bell so that you get notified when there are new episodes uh released on there are new episodes uh released on there are new episodes uh released on our YouTube channel uh and we have a our YouTube channel uh and we have a our YouTube channel uh and we have a whole website dedicated to AI for whole website dedicated to AI for whole website dedicated to AI for churches it is ai. missional churches it is ai. missional churches it is ai. missional marketing.com check it out articles

marketing.com check it out articles marketing.com check it out articles tools resources other things that might tools resources other things that might tools resources other things that might help you as a church leader navigate help you as a church leader navigate help you as a church leader navigate this crazy and fast-paced world of this crazy and fast-paced world of this crazy and fast-paced world of artificial intelligence so purpose of artificial intelligence so purpose of artificial intelligence so purpose of our conversation is to get together and our conversation is to get together and our conversation is to get together and kind of talk about things that uh are kind of talk about things that uh are kind of talk about things that uh are related to artificial intelligence how related to artificial intelligence how related to artificial intelligence how those things impact the local church uh those things impact the local church uh those things impact the local church uh David why don't you kind of set the David why don't you kind of set the David why don't you kind of set the table for some of our conversation table for some of our conversation table for some of our conversation today yeah so uh we're going to jump today yeah so uh we're going to jump today yeah so uh we're going to jump into um an article that we read that into um an article that we read that into um an article that we read that just kind of talked about how Christians just kind of talked about how Christians just kind of talked about how Christians are afraid and have some concerns about are afraid and have some concerns about are afraid and have some concerns about AI but I actually first before we do AI but I actually first before we do AI but I actually first before we do that wanted to jump into talking about that wanted to jump into talking about that wanted to jump into talking about um some recent tools and just kind of um some recent tools and just kind of um some recent tools and just kind of seeing um have you used any AI tools seeing um have you used any AI tools seeing um have you used any AI tools this past week that you've found this past week that you've found this past week that you've found interesting well I didn't use it this interesting well I didn't use it this interesting well I didn't use it this past week but I got the results of it past week but I got the results of it past week but I got the results of it this past week I know that's kind of this past week I know that's kind of this past week I know that's kind of kind of weird uh I've been writing a kind of weird uh I've been writing a kind of weird uh I've been writing a one-on-one discipleship curriculum for one-on-one discipleship curriculum for one-on-one discipleship curriculum for my church which I have published uh on my church which I have published uh on my church which I have published uh on Amazon so that I could get copies Amazon so that I could get copies Amazon so that I could get copies printed at a relatively inexpensive printed at a relatively inexpensive printed at a relatively inexpensive price it's like 150 Pages here and I price it's like 150 Pages here and I price it's like 150 Pages here and I actually I I bought some Vector files to actually I I bought some Vector files to actually I I bought some Vector files to use for the cover if you're watching on use for the cover if you're watching on use for the cover if you're watching on our YouTube channel I'm holding it up our YouTube channel I'm holding it up our YouTube channel I'm holding it up right now uh and I bought some Vector right now uh and I bought some Vector right now uh and I bought some Vector files to to kind of create the cover art files to to kind of create the cover art files to to kind of create the cover art for the different versions of it we have for the different versions of it we have for the different versions of it we have a men's version and a women's version a men's version and a women's version a men's version and a women's version and so I used the vector file as it kind and so I used the vector file as it kind and so I used the vector file as it kind of came out of the box for sort of the of came out of the box for sort of the of came out of the box for sort of the the front cover of it but I needed the front cover of it but I needed the front cover of it but I needed content or or graphics for the back content or or graphics for the back content or or graphics for the back cover and the vector file I'm not an cover and the vector file I'm not an cover and the vector file I'm not an expert in like vector manipulation and

expert in like vector manipulation and expert in like vector manipulation and creating stuff so I actually used creating stuff so I actually used creating stuff so I actually used photoshop's generative fill feature tool photoshop's generative fill feature tool photoshop's generative fill feature tool to create sort of the back cover so if to create sort of the back cover so if to create sort of the back cover so if you're if you're looking at this I'm I'm you're if you're looking at this I'm I'm you're if you're looking at this I'm I'm kind of holding it up I've got the front kind of holding it up I've got the front kind of holding it up I've got the front cover and the back cover and I just sort cover and the back cover and I just sort cover and the back cover and I just sort of I use the generative fill tool to of I use the generative fill tool to of I use the generative fill tool to kind of create the backside of the the kind of create the backside of the the kind of create the backside of the the book cover so that it looked like the book cover so that it looked like the book cover so that it looked like the front cover it took me a few little goor front cover it took me a few little goor front cover it took me a few little goor rounds of it but this was my first real rounds of it but this was my first real rounds of it but this was my first real effort in playing around with Photoshop effort in playing around with Photoshop effort in playing around with Photoshop generative fill so I thought that was generative fill so I thought that was generative fill so I thought that was pretty cool and by the way uh here's one pretty cool and by the way uh here's one pretty cool and by the way uh here's one thing to note I I uploaded this into um thing to note I I uploaded this into um thing to note I I uploaded this into um into uh Amazon Kindle Direct printer or into uh Amazon Kindle Direct printer or into uh Amazon Kindle Direct printer or KDP whatever I think that's what it's KDP whatever I think that's what it's KDP whatever I think that's what it's called Kindle direct printing so that I called Kindle direct printing so that I called Kindle direct printing so that I could print copies of this and they could print copies of this and they could print copies of this and they actually require you to disclose in a actually require you to disclose in a actually require you to disclose in a KDP upload now if you've used artificial KDP upload now if you've used artificial KDP upload now if you've used artificial intelligence tools to create the content intelligence tools to create the content intelligence tools to create the content and they specify whether it's the and they specify whether it's the and they specify whether it's the content in the book or artwork or content in the book or artwork or content in the book or artwork or Graphics or things like that that you've Graphics or things like that that you've Graphics or things like that that you've used AI or translations that's another used AI or translations that's another used AI or translations that's another one that they ask you to to do so anyway one that they ask you to to do so anyway one that they ask you to to do so anyway I thought that was kind of interesting I thought that was kind of interesting I thought that was kind of interesting it was cool it sort of saved me the it was cool it sort of saved me the it was cool it sort of saved me the hassle of having a hire a graphic hassle of having a hire a graphic hassle of having a hire a graphic designer to create the content for me uh designer to create the content for me uh designer to create the content for me uh I'm not a graphic designer I have you I'm not a graphic designer I have you I'm not a graphic designer I have you know I dabble in it a little bit but know I dabble in it a little bit but know I dabble in it a little bit but that's the AI tool that I've used that's the AI tool that I've used that's the AI tool that I've used recently so I it was actually a few recently so I it was actually a few recently so I it was actually a few weeks ago that I created it but I weeks ago that I created it but I weeks ago that I created it but I literally just got a copy of the book literally just got a copy of the book literally just got a copy of the book this week in hand so it's the first time this week in hand so it's the first time this week in hand so it's the first time I've kind of seen it in print I've kind of seen it in print I've kind of seen it in print fancy and that's one of the things that fancy and that's one of the things that fancy and that's one of the things that we have mentioned on the podcast before we have mentioned on the podcast before we have mentioned on the podcast before the concept that AI is going to be built the concept that AI is going to be built the concept that AI is going to be built into how we use things more and more and

into how we use things more and more and into how we use things more and more and more and that's a great example where um more and that's a great example where um more and that's a great example where um if you haven't noticed already almost if you haven't noticed already almost if you haven't noticed already almost every platform that you use is going to every platform that you use is going to every platform that you use is going to start having um little like stars for start having um little like stars for start having um little like stars for like use this to generate something or like use this to generate something or like use this to generate something or um magic tools I like that phrase yeah um magic tools I like that phrase yeah um magic tools I like that phrase yeah um um and that's probably like a little um um and that's probably like a little um um and that's probably like a little one of those magic tools which you know one of those magic tools which you know one of those magic tools which you know magic is a fancy word for AI tool yeah magic is a fancy word for AI tool yeah magic is a fancy word for AI tool yeah yeah that's fun uh you know I mean I've yeah that's fun uh you know I mean I've yeah that's fun uh you know I mean I've played around since then with the the played around since then with the the played around since then with the the Photoshop generative Tool uh whatever Photoshop generative Tool uh whatever Photoshop generative Tool uh whatever that's called generative fill played that's called generative fill played that's called generative fill played around with it a little bit it it's kind around with it a little bit it it's kind around with it a little bit it it's kind of fun uh and if you're a Photoshop user of fun uh and if you're a Photoshop user of fun uh and if you're a Photoshop user and you haven't used that make sure that and you haven't used that make sure that and you haven't used that make sure that you update to the newest version of you update to the newest version of you update to the newest version of Photoshop so that you can play around it Photoshop so that you can play around it Photoshop so that you can play around it and it's pretty neat what about you yeah and it's pretty neat what about you yeah and it's pretty neat what about you yeah what have you been I know I know you what have you been I know I know you what have you been I know I know you have it's like this is your life you're have it's like this is your life you're have it's like this is your life you're playing around with AI tools all the playing around with AI tools all the playing around with AI tools all the time what's fun that you can share with time what's fun that you can share with time what's fun that you can share with us today yes so on the AI playground uh us today yes so on the AI playground uh us today yes so on the AI playground uh um I was out on the AI playground quote um I was out on the AI playground quote um I was out on the AI playground quote unquote and uh I was playing around with unquote and uh I was playing around with unquote and uh I was playing around with meta's new uh image generator uh it's meta's new uh image generator uh it's meta's new uh image generator uh it's which if you want to try playing with it which if you want to try playing with it which if you want to try playing with it uh the website is uh the website is uh the website is imagine.

imagine. imagine. mea.com it is very beta and you just put mea.com it is very beta and you just put mea.com it is very beta and you just put in some words and and it creates some in some words and and it creates some in some words and and it creates some stuff so um it's one of those things stuff so um it's one of those things stuff so um it's one of those things where it is definitely uh not as robust where it is definitely uh not as robust where it is definitely uh not as robust uh as any of the other image generation uh as any of the other image generation uh as any of the other image generation platforms that are out there right now platforms that are out there right now platforms that are out there right now but it's new it's Facebook the one thing but it's new it's Facebook the one thing but it's new it's Facebook the one thing they have is money and so it's gonna get they have is money and so it's gonna get they have is money and so it's gonna get better yes okay that's cool I I went on better yes okay that's cool I I went on better yes okay that's cool I I went on there right before we started recording there right before we started recording there right before we started recording and I I didn't really play around with and I I didn't really play around with and I I didn't really play around with it much but it looks like the the it much but it looks like the the it much but it looks like the the results that it it shows kind look like results that it it shows kind look like results that it it shows kind look like a lot of the other uh image generation a lot of the other uh image generation a lot of the other uh image generation tools right there's a number of those tools right there's a number of those tools right there's a number of those that are out there what what's a what's that are out there what what's a what's that are out there what what's a what's an image generation tool that you've an image generation tool that you've an image generation tool that you've used that you actually think is pretty used that you actually think is pretty used that you actually think is pretty solid I know you've you've you've posted solid I know you've you've you've posted solid I know you've you've you've posted some stuff in our in our uh Facebook some stuff in our in our uh Facebook some stuff in our in our uh Facebook group which by the way if you're group which by the way if you're group which by the way if you're listening or watching the podcast and listening or watching the podcast and listening or watching the podcast and you're not a part of our Facebook group you're not a part of our Facebook group you're not a part of our Facebook group you should join the AI for Church's you should join the AI for Church's you should join the AI for Church's Facebook group but what are some of the Facebook group but what are some of the Facebook group but what are some of the ones that you've used that you've ones that you've used that you've ones that you've used that you've actually found to be uh pretty pretty actually found to be uh pretty pretty actually found to be uh pretty pretty good so one thing I just want to say is good so one thing I just want to say is good so one thing I just want to say is that as a general value I always want to that as a general value I always want to that as a general value I always want to figure out how can we help churches do figure out how can we help churches do figure out how can we help churches do the most free as possible and so yes the most free as possible and so yes the most free as possible and so yes there's a lot of like you can pay to do there's a lot of like you can pay to do there's a lot of like you can pay to do this kind of stuff but I if we start this kind of stuff but I if we start this kind of stuff but I if we start with the the the Level Playing Field of with the the the Level Playing Field of with the the the Level Playing Field of what can we offer and suggest the what can we offer and suggest the what can we offer and suggest the churches do for free for free um I have churches do for free for free um I have churches do for free for free um I have found consistency the best consistently

found consistency the best consistently found consistency the best consistently the best results from Bings image the best results from Bings image the best results from Bings image Creator bing.com create and um and then Creator bing.com create and um and then Creator bing.com create and um and then the other one I use is idiogram but ID the other one I use is idiogram but ID the other one I use is idiogram but ID idiogram doai but I would say idiogram doai but I would say idiogram doai but I would say bing.com create gives you the most bing.com create gives you the most bing.com create gives you the most consistent free images that you can you consistent free images that you can you consistent free images that you can you can find um I do have a subscription to can find um I do have a subscription to can find um I do have a subscription to the chat the chat the chat gp4 and and that that gives you good gp4 and and that that gives you good gp4 and and that that gives you good stuff but um for you pay 20 bucks a stuff but um for you pay 20 bucks a stuff but um for you pay 20 bucks a month um so it's one of those things if month um so it's one of those things if month um so it's one of those things if you're going to spend 20 bucks a month you're going to spend 20 bucks a month you're going to spend 20 bucks a month chat G pt4 is probably your your best chat G pt4 is probably your your best chat G pt4 is probably your your best bet to spend some money on one of the bet to spend some money on one of the bet to spend some money on one of the things I've noticed and by the way if things I've noticed and by the way if things I've noticed and by the way if you happen to be watching this on our you happen to be watching this on our you happen to be watching this on our YouTube channel my video is flickering YouTube channel my video is flickering YouTube channel my video is flickering and it's been doing that for the last and it's been doing that for the last and it's been doing that for the last couple of days I have no idea why so um couple of days I have no idea why so um couple of days I have no idea why so um sorry hope you don't have a seizure from sorry hope you don't have a seizure from sorry hope you don't have a seizure from the flickering in my my video maybe time the flickering in my my video maybe time the flickering in my my video maybe time for a new camera I'm not exactly sure for a new camera I'm not exactly sure for a new camera I'm not exactly sure anyway um one of the things I've noticed anyway um one of the things I've noticed anyway um one of the things I've noticed and I see people post this kind of stuff and I see people post this kind of stuff and I see people post this kind of stuff in both the church Communications Group in both the church Communications Group in both the church Communications Group as well as AI for churches group is that as well as AI for churches group is that as well as AI for churches group is that often times when people are trying to often times when people are trying to often times when people are trying to use these uh image generation features use these uh image generation features use these uh image generation features and they're using text in their prompts and they're using text in their prompts and they're using text in their prompts text is a really for whatever reason text is a really for whatever reason text is a really for whatever reason these AI generation tools for image these AI generation tools for image these AI generation tools for image generation they really struggle with generation they really struggle with generation they really struggle with getting text right so you get misspelled getting text right so you get misspelled getting text right so you get misspelled words and things like that all the time words and things like that all the time words and things like that all the time uh I'm confident that that's something uh I'm confident that that's something uh I'm confident that that's something that you know we're still in the baby that you know we're still in the baby that you know we're still in the baby stages of AI it'll it'll it'll get stages of AI it'll it'll it'll get stages of AI it'll it'll it'll get worked out sooner than later and it's

worked out sooner than later and it's worked out sooner than later and it's getting better and that's one of those getting better and that's one of those getting better and that's one of those things where you know five months ago I things where you know five months ago I things where you know five months ago I would like do not even put a word at all would like do not even put a word at all would like do not even put a word at all now um and there's little tricks like a now um and there's little tricks like a now um and there's little tricks like a trick I I I I read recently was put the trick I I I I read recently was put the trick I I I I read recently was put the the the text you want to use use as the the text you want to use use as the the text you want to use use as short of text as possible put it in the short of text as possible put it in the short of text as possible put it in the beginning of the of of your prompt and beginning of the of of your prompt and beginning of the of of your prompt and at the end put it in quotes and put it at the end put it in quotes and put it at the end put it in quotes and put it in all caps so those are a few things in all caps so those are a few things in all caps so those are a few things they said if you do those things that they said if you do those things that they said if you do those things that actually increases the the uh you know actually increases the the uh you know actually increases the the uh you know how good the results are it's still not how good the results are it's still not how good the results are it's still not great I was trying to get an image that great I was trying to get an image that great I was trying to get an image that said the word Communications I was said the word Communications I was said the word Communications I was trying to say happy Merry trying to say happy Merry trying to say happy Merry Christmas church Communications or Christmas church Communications or Christmas church Communications or something like that and for the life it something like that and for the life it something like that and for the life it like it could not spell the word like it could not spell the word like it could not spell the word Communications like I don't even know Communications like I don't even know Communications like I don't even know what what it was doing so that's where what what it was doing so that's where what what it was doing so that's where the probably your your best bet is to to the probably your your best bet is to to the probably your your best bet is to to just get the image bring it out use just get the image bring it out use just get the image bring it out use something like canva to put the words in something like canva to put the words in something like canva to put the words in that's that's going to be your best best that's that's going to be your best best that's that's going to be your best best thing to do yeah at this point that's a thing to do yeah at this point that's a thing to do yeah at this point that's a good call um you know what I mean even good call um you know what I mean even good call um you know what I mean even that little tip that you gave there with that little tip that you gave there with that little tip that you gave there with with the things that you're learning with the things that you're learning with the things that you're learning you're reading hopefully that's worth you're reading hopefully that's worth you're reading hopefully that's worth the price of admission for those that the price of admission for those that the price of admission for those that are are watching or listening and and are are watching or listening and and are are watching or listening and and trying to use these tools Le let's pivot trying to use these tools Le let's pivot trying to use these tools Le let's pivot our conversation to this article that uh our conversation to this article that uh our conversation to this article that uh I I I don't know if you had seen it I I I I don't know if you had seen it I I I I don't know if you had seen it I ran across it uh I don't know several ran across it uh I don't know several ran across it uh I don't know several days ago and I pained this to you and days ago and I pained this to you and days ago and I pained this to you and I'm like well this is worth a I'm like well this is worth a I'm like well this is worth a conversation uh it's a an article that

conversation uh it's a an article that conversation uh it's a an article that Barna published and Bar's like the Barna published and Bar's like the Barna published and Bar's like the they're like the smart people in the they're like the smart people in the they're like the smart people in the church world that do all of the research church world that do all of the research church world that do all of the research that tell us you know what people think that tell us you know what people think that tell us you know what people think um and uh they posted this article that um and uh they posted this article that um and uh they posted this article that basically said that most Christians basically said that most Christians basically said that most Christians don't want churches using AI I know what don't want churches using AI I know what don't want churches using AI I know what my initial reaction was to that when I my initial reaction was to that when I my initial reaction was to that when I first saw the article tell me what your first saw the article tell me what your first saw the article tell me what your reaction was when you first saw that reaction was when you first saw that reaction was when you first saw that David here's an important thing for David here's an important thing for David here's an important thing for everyone everyone everyone listening th This research will have listening th This research will have listening th This research will have Echoes as in like like throwing a pebble Echoes as in like like throwing a pebble Echoes as in like like throwing a pebble upon it's there there's ripples that upon it's there there's ripples that upon it's there there's ripples that will that will go from it um this will will that will go from it um this will will that will go from it um this will be talked about for quite a while so be talked about for quite a while so be talked about for quite a while so it's if if you are listening it's it's if if you are listening it's it's if if you are listening it's important to know that this research important to know that this research important to know that this research exists that basically says that uh exists that basically says that uh exists that basically says that uh church people are not so excited about church people are not so excited about church people are not so excited about AI or their pastor's use of AI um I have AI or their pastor's use of AI um I have AI or their pastor's use of AI um I have many thoughts uh but to sum it up in one many thoughts uh but to sum it up in one many thoughts uh but to sum it up in one big bubble is saying that I think that big bubble is saying that I think that big bubble is saying that I think that we as pastors have a we as pastors have a we as pastors have a responsibility to have our own view of responsibility to have our own view of responsibility to have our own view of AI and be able to disciple and Shepherd AI and be able to disciple and Shepherd AI and be able to disciple and Shepherd our flock um to inform them on this our flock um to inform them on this our flock um to inform them on this topic and other topics like it so that topic and other topics like it so that topic and other topics like it so that our as Shepherds of our flock our sheep our as Shepherds of our flock our sheep our as Shepherds of our flock our sheep don't jump off into the Ravine head don't jump off into the Ravine head don't jump off into the Ravine head first time and time again on a topic first time and time again on a topic first time and time again on a topic like this yeah I I agree with you I

like this yeah I I agree with you I like this yeah I I agree with you I think there is a responsibility that think there is a responsibility that think there is a responsibility that pastors who have influence over the pastors who have influence over the pastors who have influence over the people in their churches um there's a people in their churches um there's a people in their churches um there's a responsibility that they have to really responsibility that they have to really responsibility that they have to really care for people through these initial care for people through these initial care for people through these initial stages of the AI World becoming reality stages of the AI World becoming reality stages of the AI World becoming reality for us right uh for for for most of us I for us right uh for for for most of us I for us right uh for for for most of us I mean I'm I'm a I'm a gen xer and for mean I'm I'm a I'm a gen xer and for mean I'm I'm a I'm a gen xer and for most of my life artificial intelligence most of my life artificial intelligence most of my life artificial intelligence was science fiction it wasn't reality was science fiction it wasn't reality was science fiction it wasn't reality and therefore for a lot of people the and therefore for a lot of people the and therefore for a lot of people the idea that these things that have been idea that these things that have been idea that these things that have been science fiction our whole lives are now science fiction our whole lives are now science fiction our whole lives are now coming to to to to re coming into coming to to to to re coming into coming to to to to re coming into reality it almost feels like okay end reality it almost feels like okay end reality it almost feels like okay end times mark of the beast uh all this times mark of the beast uh all this times mark of the beast uh all this stuff it's creepy and it's crazy and I stuff it's creepy and it's crazy and I stuff it's creepy and it's crazy and I know you even as we at missional know you even as we at missional know you even as we at missional marketing have developed our own AI for marketing have developed our own AI for marketing have developed our own AI for Church's platform and our our our sort Church's platform and our our our sort Church's platform and our our our sort of our image and our brand in this space of our image and our brand in this space of our image and our brand in this space you have been very very careful to make you have been very very careful to make you have been very very careful to make sure that we're not promoting AI as sort sure that we're not promoting AI as sort sure that we're not promoting AI as sort of like this creepy robots take over the of like this creepy robots take over the of like this creepy robots take over the world idea that AI while it is world idea that AI while it is world idea that AI while it is technology uh it is not all creepy Rob technology uh it is not all creepy Rob technology uh it is not all creepy Rob robots taking over the world that there robots taking over the world that there robots taking over the world that there are actually some really good and are actually some really good and are actually some really good and helpful things that come from Ai and one helpful things that come from Ai and one helpful things that come from Ai and one of the things we've talked about on this of the things we've talked about on this of the things we've talked about on this podcast is efficiencies but I I'll just podcast is efficiencies but I I'll just podcast is efficiencies but I I'll just I'll just say this I I think that most I'll just say this I I think that most I'll just say this I I think that most Christians who responded to this survey Christians who responded to this survey Christians who responded to this survey saying that they're uncomfortable with saying that they're uncomfortable with saying that they're uncomfortable with their pastors Andor their churches using their pastors Andor their churches using their pastors Andor their churches using AI they have sort of this one lane view

AI they have sort of this one lane view AI they have sort of this one lane view of what AI is and what it does and of what AI is and what it does and of what AI is and what it does and basically what they're saying is we basically what they're saying is we basically what they're saying is we don't want our pastor preaching a sermon don't want our pastor preaching a sermon don't want our pastor preaching a sermon that AI wrote for him that that's or her that AI wrote for him that that's or her that AI wrote for him that that's or her that's that's essentially what they're that's that's essentially what they're that's that's essentially what they're saying but I tell you what as a people saying but I tell you what as a people saying but I tell you what as a people in my my church that I'm leading uh do in my my church that I'm leading uh do in my my church that I'm leading uh do this discipleship curriculum that I this discipleship curriculum that I this discipleship curriculum that I shared a few minutes ago uh I bet 0% of shared a few minutes ago uh I bet 0% of shared a few minutes ago uh I bet 0% of the people could care less that the back the people could care less that the back the people could care less that the back cover artwork was created by artificial cover artwork was created by artificial cover artwork was created by artificial intelligence like it has zero bearing on intelligence like it has zero bearing on intelligence like it has zero bearing on their spiritual formation in their their spiritual formation in their their spiritual formation in their Journey with Jesus uh am I off base here Journey with Jesus uh am I off base here Journey with Jesus uh am I off base here what do you think yeah or or the use of what do you think yeah or or the use of what do you think yeah or or the use of a magic tool you know of that kind of a magic tool you know of that kind of a magic tool you know of that kind of idea and here's one thing is um in the idea and here's one thing is um in the idea and here's one thing is um in the past six months there have been multiple past six months there have been multiple past six months there have been multiple examples where there a pastor has done examples where there a pastor has done examples where there a pastor has done an entire service written by AI so the an entire service written by AI so the an entire service written by AI so the prayers were written the sermon was prayers were written the sermon was prayers were written the sermon was written various pieces were written and written various pieces were written and written various pieces were written and then so Christians are responding to then so Christians are responding to then so Christians are responding to those kind of Articles because they're those kind of Articles because they're those kind of Articles because they're plastered everywhere church service plastered everywhere church service plastered everywhere church service written by AI done by Ai and I think we written by AI done by Ai and I think we written by AI done by Ai and I think we can all agree that's not a good use of can all agree that's not a good use of can all agree that's not a good use of AI so we're all on the same page about AI so we're all on the same page about AI so we're all on the same page about that right but and here's here's what I that right but and here's here's what I that right but and here's here's what I was I I was thinking is sometimes I was I I was thinking is sometimes I was I I was thinking is sometimes I think pastors might jump to this thing think pastors might jump to this thing think pastors might jump to this thing of oh we need to be transparent and tell of oh we need to be transparent and tell of oh we need to be transparent and tell our churches every time we use Ai and our churches every time we use Ai and our churches every time we use Ai and this is where where my mind goes do we this is where where my mind goes do we this is where where my mind goes do we want our pastors to stand up on a Sunday

want our pastors to stand up on a Sunday want our pastors to stand up on a Sunday morning and say hey guys I just want to morning and say hey guys I just want to morning and say hey guys I just want to be honest be honest be honest [Music] [Music] [Music] um this past week I like to share that I um this past week I like to share that I um this past week I like to share that I uh I used an AI to help me um correct uh I used an AI to help me um correct uh I used an AI to help me um correct the spelling mistakes in my sermon this the spelling mistakes in my sermon this the spelling mistakes in my sermon this week so um I just want to apologized for week so um I just want to apologized for week so um I just want to apologized for that while I'm at it i' also like to that while I'm at it i' also like to that while I'm at it i' also like to just let you know that I used an AI to just let you know that I used an AI to just let you know that I used an AI to summarize a meeting I had this past week summarize a meeting I had this past week summarize a meeting I had this past week and it it just summarized and gave me and it it just summarized and gave me and it it just summarized and gave me notes about what happened in that notes about what happened in that notes about what happened in that meeting I just want to be transparent meeting I just want to be transparent meeting I just want to be transparent about that and about that and about that and uh finally this is tough for me to say uh finally this is tough for me to say uh finally this is tough for me to say but um I was thinking about my my sermon but um I was thinking about my my sermon but um I was thinking about my my sermon title this past week and as I was title this past week and as I was title this past week and as I was brainstorming I used an AI and it gave brainstorming I used an AI and it gave brainstorming I used an AI and it gave me ideas I didn't use any of those ideas me ideas I didn't use any of those ideas me ideas I didn't use any of those ideas but those ideas did help Inspire what we but those ideas did help Inspire what we but those ideas did help Inspire what we actually are actually are actually are using if you want me to put in my using if you want me to put in my using if you want me to put in my resignation I resignation I resignation I can you know like that that that's what can you know like that that that's what can you know like that that that's what we have to understand is AI there's it's we have to understand is AI there's it's we have to understand is AI there's it's tools It's Magic Tools in our toolbox tools It's Magic Tools in our toolbox tools It's Magic Tools in our toolbox and our and and the and the toolbox is and our and and the and the toolbox is and our and and the and the toolbox is getting bigger and bigger and bigger to getting bigger and bigger and bigger to getting bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where any individual in our the point where any individual in our the point where any individual in our church or Pastor attempting to not use church or Pastor attempting to not use church or Pastor attempting to not use AI may not be able to use anything AI may not be able to use anything AI may not be able to use anything that's on the internet period because it that's on the internet period because it that's on the internet period because it is all infused with AI I mean here here is all infused with AI I mean here here is all infused with AI I mean here here here's the reality like it's coming um here's the reality like it's coming um here's the reality like it's coming um Microsoft will Implement some AI Tools

Microsoft will Implement some AI Tools Microsoft will Implement some AI Tools in PowerPoint presentations it's not in PowerPoint presentations it's not in PowerPoint presentations it's not there yet but you know it's got to be there yet but you know it's got to be there yet but you know it's got to be coming and so your pastor who uses a coming and so your pastor who uses a coming and so your pastor who uses a PowerPoint on Sunday morning is PowerPoint on Sunday morning is PowerPoint on Sunday morning is eventually going to be using those magic eventually going to be using those magic eventually going to be using those magic Tools in PowerPoint that help create his Tools in PowerPoint that help create his Tools in PowerPoint that help create his slides for him on Sunday morning um I I slides for him on Sunday morning um I I slides for him on Sunday morning um I I you know had a conversation with a you know had a conversation with a you know had a conversation with a church this last week about their church this last week about their church this last week about their Christmas ad campaign something that we Christmas ad campaign something that we Christmas ad campaign something that we do for churches we help them run ad do for churches we help them run ad do for churches we help them run ad campaigns missional marketing uh to to campaigns missional marketing uh to to campaigns missional marketing uh to to promote things such as Christmas Eve promote things such as Christmas Eve promote things such as Christmas Eve services and I was looking over the services and I was looking over the services and I was looking over the Christmas landing page that this church Christmas landing page that this church Christmas landing page that this church had built that their ads were going to had built that their ads were going to had built that their ads were going to and the comm's director was completely and the comm's director was completely and the comm's director was completely transparent with me and said I used chat transparent with me and said I used chat transparent with me and said I used chat GPT to write all of the copy on our GPT to write all of the copy on our GPT to write all of the copy on our Christmas Eve landing page and you know Christmas Eve landing page and you know Christmas Eve landing page and you know and I was like good for you you saved and I was like good for you you saved and I was like good for you you saved yourself a ton of time and grief in yourself a ton of time and grief in yourself a ton of time and grief in having to sit down and write all this ad having to sit down and write all this ad having to sit down and write all this ad copy or all this copy for the the copy or all this copy for the the copy or all this copy for the the landing page by the way you did not put landing page by the way you did not put landing page by the way you did not put a little disclaimer there that says this a little disclaimer there that says this a little disclaimer there that says this copy was all written by chat GPT and the copy was all written by chat GPT and the copy was all written by chat GPT and the honest truth is I don't think anybody honest truth is I don't think anybody honest truth is I don't think anybody will really care you know it's like come will really care you know it's like come will really care you know it's like come and celebrate Christmas Eve with so and and celebrate Christmas Eve with so and and celebrate Christmas Eve with so and so Community Church where we're gonna so Community Church where we're gonna so Community Church where we're gonna sing Christmas Eve carols and light sing Christmas Eve carols and light sing Christmas Eve carols and light candles and you know I mean that you candles and you know I mean that you candles and you know I mean that you know that's generally what it said it know that's generally what it said it know that's generally what it said it wasn't again it's not creepy robot stuff wasn't again it's not creepy robot stuff wasn't again it's not creepy robot stuff it's a helpful tool that saved this it's a helpful tool that saved this it's a helpful tool that saved this communications director time in having communications director time in having communications director time in having to write the copy or at least the first to write the copy or at least the first to write the copy or at least the first draft of the copy herself she was able draft of the copy herself she was able draft of the copy herself she was able to use chat GPT to give her a draft she to use chat GPT to give her a draft she to use chat GPT to give her a draft she massaged it to put it into a A vibe or a massaged it to put it into a A vibe or a massaged it to put it into a A vibe or a feel that was uh authentic to their

feel that was uh authentic to their feel that was uh authentic to their church and then copied that and pasted church and then copied that and pasted church and then copied that and pasted that right into the WordPress so that it that right into the WordPress so that it that right into the WordPress so that it was on that Landy page yeah saving time was on that Landy page yeah saving time was on that Landy page yeah saving time is such a big thing and and that's one is such a big thing and and that's one is such a big thing and and that's one of those things like you know you're GNA of those things like you know you're GNA of those things like you know you're GNA hear on this podcast again and again you hear on this podcast again and again you hear on this podcast again and again you know my heart is how can we help know my heart is how can we help know my heart is how can we help overburden pastors who don't have enough overburden pastors who don't have enough overburden pastors who don't have enough time and and and and are carrying so time and and and and are carrying so time and and and and are carrying so much responsibility in their week um how much responsibility in their week um how much responsibility in their week um how do we help them to save time on menial do we help them to save time on menial do we help them to save time on menial tasks tasks tasks that that they can that they don't need that that they can that they don't need that that they can that they don't need to spend hours and hours doing each week to spend hours and hours doing each week to spend hours and hours doing each week if something if if a magic tool can do if something if if a magic tool can do if something if if a magic tool can do it in a quarter of the time and end up it in a quarter of the time and end up it in a quarter of the time and end up doing better than what they even did doing better than what they even did doing better than what they even did again we're not talking about writing again we're not talking about writing again we're not talking about writing sermons we're talking about saving time sermons we're talking about saving time sermons we're talking about saving time on medial tasks like editing a document on medial tasks like editing a document on medial tasks like editing a document for errors for errors for errors um I I want every Pastor to use those um I I want every Pastor to use those um I I want every Pastor to use those tools um yeah so there there's a tons of tools um yeah so there there's a tons of tools um yeah so there there's a tons of things that that that a pastor does each things that that that a pastor does each things that that that a pastor does each week that just take a lot of time yeah week that just take a lot of time yeah week that just take a lot of time yeah now I think this is a a good way for us now I think this is a a good way for us now I think this is a a good way for us to kind of transition into the interview to kind of transition into the interview to kind of transition into the interview uh that we're going to share today uh uh that we're going to share today uh uh that we're going to share today uh because speaking of saving time I had because speaking of saving time I had because speaking of saving time I had another call with another church this another call with another church this another call with another church this week that told me that they had recently week that told me that they had recently week that told me that they had recently subscribed to an AI tool to help them subscribed to an AI tool to help them subscribed to an AI tool to help them pull sermon Snippets from their weekly pull sermon Snippets from their weekly pull sermon Snippets from their weekly sermons to post on social media and the

sermons to post on social media and the sermons to post on social media and the end result is that it was saving them a end result is that it was saving them a end result is that it was saving them a ton of time so rather than somebody ton of time so rather than somebody ton of time so rather than somebody having to go through the video manually having to go through the video manually having to go through the video manually and manually edit out sermon uh clips and manually edit out sermon uh clips and manually edit out sermon uh clips and this person was not a video editor and this person was not a video editor and this person was not a video editor uh they're you know a communication SL uh they're you know a communication SL uh they're you know a communication SL marketing person but now has the marketing person but now has the marketing person but now has the responsibility because it falls under responsibility because it falls under responsibility because it falls under social media to create two or three you social media to create two or three you social media to create two or three you know 60-second clips from their sermon know 60-second clips from their sermon know 60-second clips from their sermon to post on on Instagram or or Tik Tok or to post on on Instagram or or Tik Tok or to post on on Instagram or or Tik Tok or whatever it is that they're they're whatever it is that they're they're whatever it is that they're they're they're using them for and she told me they're using them for and she told me they're using them for and she told me she said man I I I just subscribed to she said man I I I just subscribed to she said man I I I just subscribed to this a couple of weeks ago uh and it's this a couple of weeks ago uh and it's this a couple of weeks ago uh and it's already saving me a ton of time and I'm already saving me a ton of time and I'm already saving me a ton of time and I'm like boom that is the purpose and So like boom that is the purpose and So like boom that is the purpose and So speaking of tools that are designed to speaking of tools that are designed to speaking of tools that are designed to save church leaders or church staff or save church leaders or church staff or save church leaders or church staff or church volunteers time why don't you church volunteers time why don't you church volunteers time why don't you ceue up the interview uh that we have to ceue up the interview uh that we have to ceue up the interview uh that we have to share today yeah so I had a great share today yeah so I had a great share today yeah so I had a great conversation with Corey Udin who is the conversation with Corey Udin who is the conversation with Corey Udin who is the co-founder of sermon shots sermon shot co-founder of sermon shots sermon shot co-founder of sermon shots sermon shot is one of the common uh AI generated is one of the common uh AI generated is one of the common uh AI generated video clip sermon clip makers that are video clip sermon clip makers that are video clip sermon clip makers that are out there it's not the only one there's out there it's not the only one there's out there it's not the only one there's other ones but I had a great other ones but I had a great other ones but I had a great conversation with Corey just talking conversation with Corey just talking conversation with Corey just talking about um the idea of creating uh sermon about um the idea of creating uh sermon about um the idea of creating uh sermon Clips using Ai and how it can save Clips using Ai and how it can save Clips using Ai and how it can save pastors time and honestly help their pastors time and honestly help their pastors time and honestly help their sermon content go further that's one sermon content go further that's one sermon content go further that's one thing we talk about emotional marketing thing we talk about emotional marketing thing we talk about emotional marketing is pastors and churches invest so much is pastors and churches invest so much is pastors and churches invest so much time in their sermons and the sermon

time in their sermons and the sermon time in their sermons and the sermon itself becomes a primary discipleship itself becomes a primary discipleship itself becomes a primary discipleship tool for the church so then the pastor tool for the church so then the pastor tool for the church so then the pastor preaches it on preaches it on preaches it on Sunday and they put it back on the shelf Sunday and they put it back on the shelf Sunday and they put it back on the shelf and it collects dust for eternity yeah and it collects dust for eternity yeah and it collects dust for eternity yeah and we say that's not great we want to and we say that's not great we want to and we say that's not great we want to figure out how can we help churches take figure out how can we help churches take figure out how can we help churches take that great content that they're creating that great content that they're creating that great content that they're creating and help it to reach more people for and help it to reach more people for and help it to reach more people for weeks and weeks and weeks on end and weeks and weeks and weeks on end and weeks and weeks and weeks on end and yeah this this a conversation with with yeah this this a conversation with with yeah this this a conversation with with Corey is a great way to get that topic Corey is a great way to get that topic Corey is a great way to get that topic going all right well hey thanks again going all right well hey thanks again going all right well hey thanks again for tuning in uh to this episode of the for tuning in uh to this episode of the for tuning in uh to this episode of the AI for churches podcast hopefully this AI for churches podcast hopefully this AI for churches podcast hopefully this has been helpful for you if there are has been helpful for you if there are has been helpful for you if there are things that you would like for uh David things that you would like for uh David things that you would like for uh David uh and me to dig into in this and I'll uh and me to dig into in this and I'll uh and me to dig into in this and I'll say David really because I mean he's say David really because I mean he's say David really because I mean he's he's the brains behind our AI team uh he's the brains behind our AI team uh he's the brains behind our AI team uh you can email him at D Thorn t h o r NE you can email him at D Thorn t h o r NE you can email him at D Thorn t h o r NE at missional marketing.com or you can at missional marketing.com or you can at missional marketing.com or you can leave a comment on our YouTube channel leave a comment on our YouTube channel leave a comment on our YouTube channel if you happen to be watching this on if you happen to be watching this on if you happen to be watching this on YouTube uh and we'll be glad to interact YouTube uh and we'll be glad to interact YouTube uh and we'll be glad to interact with you there love to know how we can with you there love to know how we can with you there love to know how we can help you get a better grip on things help you get a better grip on things help you get a better grip on things that are going on in the world of AI and that are going on in the world of AI and that are going on in the world of AI and how you can uh utilize these tools these how you can uh utilize these tools these how you can uh utilize these tools these resources in the context of your church resources in the context of your church resources in the context of your church and you know what maybe it's just a and you know what maybe it's just a and you know what maybe it's just a matter of how we can coach you on how matter of how we can coach you on how matter of how we can coach you on how you can coach your own church and you can coach your own church and you can coach your own church and congregation about how AI can be a congregation about how AI can be a congregation about how AI can be a benefit to your church it's not a creepy benefit to your church it's not a creepy benefit to your church it's not a creepy scary robots taking over the world thing scary robots taking over the world thing scary robots taking over the world thing uh there are a lot of great benefits and uh there are a lot of great benefits and uh there are a lot of great benefits and um I think the church will be better for um I think the church will be better for um I think the church will be better for it again ethics are a big part of it and

it again ethics are a big part of it and it again ethics are a big part of it and we talk about that a lot uh but uh we talk about that a lot uh but uh we talk about that a lot uh but uh there's there's just a lot of a lot of there's there's just a lot of a lot of there's there's just a lot of a lot of room to grow in this area so all that room to grow in this area so all that room to grow in this area so all that being said um thanks again for joining being said um thanks again for joining being said um thanks again for joining us uh here's David's interview with us uh here's David's interview with us uh here's David's interview with Corey hi everyone I'm here with Corey Corey hi everyone I'm here with Corey Corey hi everyone I'm here with Corey Udin uh co-founder of sermon shots hey Udin uh co-founder of sermon shots hey Udin uh co-founder of sermon shots hey Corey hi thanks for being with us Corey hi thanks for being with us Corey hi thanks for being with us absolutely and uh yeah just just wanted absolutely and uh yeah just just wanted absolutely and uh yeah just just wanted to invite him on and we can explain a to invite him on and we can explain a to invite him on and we can explain a little bit about what sermon shots is little bit about what sermon shots is little bit about what sermon shots is and just talk a little bit about what and just talk a little bit about what and just talk a little bit about what he's learned about AI but uh before we he's learned about AI but uh before we he's learned about AI but uh before we do that Corey I would just like to jump do that Corey I would just like to jump do that Corey I would just like to jump in with a few hard-hitting questions uh in with a few hard-hitting questions uh in with a few hard-hitting questions uh before we jump into the topic at hand is before we jump into the topic at hand is before we jump into the topic at hand is that cool sounds good all right so pre that cool sounds good all right so pre that cool sounds good all right so pre be prepared here we go question number be prepared here we go question number be prepared here we go question number one Corey pizza or Chinese uh pizza for sure Chinese uh pizza for sure Pizza uh what's that you have a favorite Pizza uh what's that you have a favorite Pizza uh what's that you have a favorite spot uh yeah well I'm fortunate that we spot uh yeah well I'm fortunate that we spot uh yeah well I'm fortunate that we have like 10 spots within about three have like 10 spots within about three have like 10 spots within about three miles of us it's Pizza is very popular miles of us it's Pizza is very popular miles of us it's Pizza is very popular around here I guess uh but we do uh my around here I guess uh but we do uh my around here I guess uh but we do uh my family and I have a favorite one that we family and I have a favorite one that we family and I have a favorite one that we can just walk to across the street can just walk to across the street can just walk to across the street actually so nice very cool uh how about actually so nice very cool uh how about actually so nice very cool uh how about uh favorite sports uh favorite sports uh favorite sports team uh the team uh the team uh the Cowboys oh that's a poor choice that's a Cowboys oh that's a poor choice that's a Cowboys oh that's a poor choice that's a that uh that's a polarizing one so I that uh that's a polarizing one so I that uh that's a polarizing one so I I've lost some fans and gained some I've lost some fans and gained some I've lost some fans and gained some right there I think yeah it is you right there I think yeah it is you right there I think yeah it is you definitely have lost some and gain some

definitely have lost some and gain some definitely have lost some and gain some some people you just became their best some people you just became their best some people you just became their best friend others worst enemy yeah all right friend others worst enemy yeah all right friend others worst enemy yeah all right question number three um a favorite AI tool um my favorite one that I use and tool um my favorite one that I use and this isn't a fancy fancy one probably this isn't a fancy fancy one probably this isn't a fancy fancy one probably but um and it's been around for a while but um and it's been around for a while but um and it's been around for a while so some maybe not even realize it is so some maybe not even realize it is so some maybe not even realize it is technically AI but I use grammarly all technically AI but I use grammarly all technically AI but I use grammarly all the time I am the time I am the time I am a I'm horrible at spelling always have a I'm horrible at spelling always have a I'm horrible at spelling always have been my whole life and that thing has been my whole life and that thing has been my whole life and that thing has saved me um some embarrassments in the saved me um some embarrassments in the saved me um some embarrassments in the past um but uh on that I guess if I were past um but uh on that I guess if I were past um but uh on that I guess if I were to uh more specifically some more um to uh more specifically some more um to uh more specifically some more um recent AI tools I guess I use Chachi P recent AI tools I guess I use Chachi P recent AI tools I guess I use Chachi P all the time again for writing a lot of all the time again for writing a lot of all the time again for writing a lot of writing that I do just is really helpful writing that I do just is really helpful writing that I do just is really helpful again saves me if I didn't have it I again saves me if I didn't have it I again saves me if I didn't have it I probably would be embarrassed by some probably would be embarrassed by some probably would be embarrassed by some some things that I wrote yes that's some things that I wrote yes that's some things that I wrote yes that's great I I also grammarly is awesome and great I I also grammarly is awesome and great I I also grammarly is awesome and for those of you who don't know what for those of you who don't know what for those of you who don't know what grammarly is uh it's something you can grammarly is uh it's something you can grammarly is uh it's something you can add uh to anything you write that just add uh to anything you write that just add uh to anything you write that just automatically live tells you what you automatically live tells you what you automatically live tells you what you wrote incorrectly and suggest fixes and wrote incorrectly and suggest fixes and wrote incorrectly and suggest fixes and it is awesome everyone should definely it is awesome everyone should definely it is awesome everyone should definely be using grammarly yeah and more than be using grammarly yeah and more than be using grammarly yeah and more than just spelling spelling is the big one just spelling spelling is the big one just spelling spelling is the big one but it it helps me with like oh you but it it helps me with like oh you but it it helps me with like oh you didn't say that right yeah yeah yeah

didn't say that right yeah yeah yeah didn't say that right yeah yeah yeah that's awesome all right last question that's awesome all right last question that's awesome all right last question is can you name a task personal or in is can you name a task personal or in is can you name a task personal or in work that you wish AI could do for you so like a thing that I just hate you so like a thing that I just hate doing probably right like um uh this is probably just because it's uh this is probably just because it's fresh in my memory but if it could help fresh in my memory but if it could help fresh in my memory but if it could help me get rid of the leaves in my yard I me get rid of the leaves in my yard I me get rid of the leaves in my yard I would absolutely love it I have trees would absolutely love it I have trees would absolutely love it I have trees all over the place around me and I am all over the place around me and I am all over the place around me and I am constantly doing leaves right now this constantly doing leaves right now this constantly doing leaves right now this time of the year so or just yard work in time of the year so or just yard work in time of the year so or just yard work in general yeah yeah that's like they need general yeah yeah that's like they need general yeah yeah that's like they need like a you know they've made roomzz for like a you know they've made roomzz for like a you know they've made roomzz for a yard yep knowing you're right yep but a yard yep knowing you're right yep but a yard yep knowing you're right yep but they need the next Roomba that that they need the next Roomba that that they need the next Roomba that that focuses specifically on like raking focuses specifically on like raking focuses specifically on like raking leaves so whatever that yard cutting leaves so whatever that yard cutting leaves so whatever that yard cutting Roomba thing is you need like a a rake Roomba thing is you need like a a rake Roomba thing is you need like a a rake attachment on the front and then you attachment on the front and then you attachment on the front and then you need the AI to determine where is the need the AI to determine where is the need the AI to determine where is the pile you want to create exactly I mean pile you want to create exactly I mean pile you want to create exactly I mean it seems a very reasonable thing for us it seems a very reasonable thing for us it seems a very reasonable thing for us to expect that people should create yeah to expect that people should create yeah to expect that people should create yeah it'll be coming hopefully yeah yeah it'll be coming hopefully yeah yeah it'll be coming hopefully yeah yeah that's I that's awesome awesome and some that's I that's awesome awesome and some that's I that's awesome awesome and some people I don't know if anyone who's people I don't know if anyone who's people I don't know if anyone who's listening but they have like the like listening but they have like the like listening but they have like the like the the acorn problem where like their the the acorn problem where like their the the acorn problem where like their trees drop a million acorns do you have trees drop a million acorns do you have trees drop a million acorns do you have that problem walnuts I have a couple that problem walnuts I have a couple that problem walnuts I have a couple walnut trees those are bad too and so

walnut trees those are bad too and so walnut trees those are bad too and so that's like a whole different thing you that's like a whole different thing you that's like a whole different thing you almost need like a shovel that that just almost need like a shovel that that just almost need like a shovel that that just goes through your yard so like leaves is goes through your yard so like leaves is goes through your yard so like leaves is one thing but like one thing but like one thing but like shoveling acorns or walnuts or whatever shoveling acorns or walnuts or whatever shoveling acorns or walnuts or whatever other things it's like a whole different other things it's like a whole different other things it's like a whole different thing I have I make a I make a game out thing I have I make a I make a game out thing I have I make a I make a game out of it and it helps a little bit for my of it and it helps a little bit for my of it and it helps a little bit for my kids where you I just say take it and kids where you I just say take it and kids where you I just say take it and see how far you can throw it Chuck it see how far you can throw it Chuck it see how far you can throw it Chuck it over there so yeah it works for a while over there so yeah it works for a while over there so yeah it works for a while not yeah that's it's good for good five not yeah that's it's good for good five not yeah that's it's good for good five minutes but cool all right so I would minutes but cool all right so I would minutes but cool all right so I would love just to chat about sermon shots and love just to chat about sermon shots and love just to chat about sermon shots and then the AI behind it so could you just then the AI behind it so could you just then the AI behind it so could you just start by telling us what sermon shots is start by telling us what sermon shots is start by telling us what sermon shots is and explaining how where AI fits into and explaining how where AI fits into and explaining how where AI fits into what sermon shots what sermon shots what sermon shots does yeah so I guess at the basic level does yeah so I guess at the basic level does yeah so I guess at the basic level of what sermon shots does uh it helps of what sermon shots does uh it helps of what sermon shots does uh it helps you take your sermon and turn it into you take your sermon and turn it into you take your sermon and turn it into content for your social media uh and content for your social media uh and content for your social media uh and more more more specifically um short form video so specifically um short form video so specifically um short form video so reals Facebook reals face uh Instagram reals Facebook reals face uh Instagram reals Facebook reals face uh Instagram reals Tik Tok YouTube shorts sort of reals Tik Tok YouTube shorts sort of reals Tik Tok YouTube shorts sort of thing so helping you take your thing so helping you take your thing so helping you take your good like quotable moments and turn them good like quotable moments and turn them good like quotable moments and turn them into videos so that that is into videos so that that is into videos so that that is really the basics of of what it does and really the basics of of what it does and really the basics of of what it does and the AI built into it is really all about

the AI built into it is really all about the AI built into it is really all about how can we help the users save time how can we help the users save time how can we help the users save time doing that that thing and so um there doing that that thing and so um there doing that that thing and so um there there's a few different AIS built into there's a few different AIS built into there's a few different AIS built into it the the main one that I think people it the the main one that I think people it the the main one that I think people probably recognize and realize um is probably recognize and realize um is probably recognize and realize um is what we call AI suggested clips and it's what we call AI suggested clips and it's what we call AI suggested clips and it's just it is picking those moments for you just it is picking those moments for you just it is picking those moments for you so suggesting hey here's here's a 30- so suggesting hey here's here's a 30- so suggesting hey here's here's a 30- second moment here's a 405 second moment second moment here's a 405 second moment second moment here's a 405 second moment that we think would be a good uh moment that we think would be a good uh moment that we think would be a good uh moment for you to share on social media for you to share on social media for you to share on social media yeah so that's such a cool thing and I I yeah so that's such a cool thing and I I yeah so that's such a cool thing and I I it it it it it it I kind of like just wonder like how does I kind of like just wonder like how does I kind of like just wonder like how does that work like how does the that work like how does the that work like how does the AI determine here are the five Clips we AI determine here are the five Clips we AI determine here are the five Clips we s it's you know I the AI suggests these s it's you know I the AI suggests these s it's you know I the AI suggests these five Clips how does how does it identify five Clips how does how does it identify five Clips how does how does it identify those yeah so we are well first I'll say those yeah so we are well first I'll say those yeah so we are well first I'll say there a little bit of our secret sauce there a little bit of our secret sauce there a little bit of our secret sauce so I probably won't give away everything so I probably won't give away everything so I probably won't give away everything but I can I can speak generally about it but I can I can speak generally about it but I can I can speak generally about it okay yeah um we we utilize as many tools okay yeah um we we utilize as many tools okay yeah um we we utilize as many tools as possible as possible as possible we're we are constantly evaluating and we're we are constantly evaluating and we're we are constantly evaluating and trying to improve so it it changes kind trying to improve so it it changes kind trying to improve so it it changes kind of like how many things we're using uh of like how many things we're using uh of like how many things we're using uh you know month to month but generally you know month to month but generally you know month to month but generally we're probably using three

we're probably using three we're probably using three different sources to kind of help with different sources to kind of help with different sources to kind of help with that so it's like um an API here to do that so it's like um an API here to do that so it's like um an API here to do one step another API to to you know um one step another API to to you know um one step another API to to you know um do this step so things like chachy PT do this step so things like chachy PT do this step so things like chachy PT and you know those all are really and you know those all are really and you know those all are really helpful but then it also comes combined helpful but then it also comes combined helpful but then it also comes combined into sermon shots with some of our stuff into sermon shots with some of our stuff into sermon shots with some of our stuff that we're doing specifically for that we're doing specifically for that we're doing specifically for churches so it's um what what are we churches so it's um what what are we churches so it's um what what are we learning that is working for churches learning that is working for churches learning that is working for churches and building that and building that and building that into the the selection process as well into the the selection process as well into the the selection process as well yeah um does that well yeah so it yeah um does that well yeah so it yeah um does that well yeah so it basically it's it's acknowledging that basically it's it's acknowledging that basically it's it's acknowledging that there is some Secret so said this is a there is some Secret so said this is a there is some Secret so said this is a moving Target and you guys as a company moving Target and you guys as a company moving Target and you guys as a company have to keep figuring out how to get have to keep figuring out how to get have to keep figuring out how to get better and better at it and it there's better and better at it and it there's better and better at it and it there's multiple steps and processes that you multiple steps and processes that you multiple steps and processes that you are are are continuing to figure out as you go along continuing to figure out as you go along continuing to figure out as you go along to to make it better and better but um to to make it better and better but um to to make it better and better but um yes there are things like a chaty PT yes there are things like a chaty PT yes there are things like a chaty PT that you're you use to try to identify that you're you use to try to identify that you're you use to try to identify that the ideal Clips yep yep correct so that the ideal Clips yep yep correct so that the ideal Clips yep yep correct so chat GPT is the one that probably chat GPT is the one that probably chat GPT is the one that probably everybody everybody knows and that one everybody everybody knows and that one everybody everybody knows and that one act that one helps a lot throughout the act that one helps a lot throughout the act that one helps a lot throughout the process of doing some things but uh you process of doing some things but uh you process of doing some things but uh you know in chat GPT can't do everything yet know in chat GPT can't do everything yet know in chat GPT can't do everything yet and so we're utilizing other kind of and so we're utilizing other kind of and so we're utilizing other kind of sources other things as well um to kind sources other things as well um to kind sources other things as well um to kind of make sure that we're giving you the of make sure that we're giving you the of make sure that we're giving you the best

best best selections yeah the how about like just selections yeah the how about like just selections yeah the how about like just even backing up a bit of tell people who even backing up a bit of tell people who even backing up a bit of tell people who are listening like how did you get into are listening like how did you get into are listening like how did you get into doing doing doing sermon Clips using AI so how did that sermon Clips using AI so how did that sermon Clips using AI so how did that happen yeah happen yeah happen yeah so I so I so I guess we didn't really intend originally guess we didn't really intend originally guess we didn't really intend originally and uh this we didn't intend originally and uh this we didn't intend originally and uh this we didn't intend originally to be using AI that was never the that to be using AI that was never the that to be using AI that was never the that was never the end goal the end goal was was never the end goal the end goal was was never the end goal the end goal was always how can we make this process of always how can we make this process of always how can we make this process of making Clips easier what early on uh making Clips easier what early on uh making Clips easier what early on uh through some other things that I I've through some other things that I I've through some other things that I I've done in the past um we want we were done in the past um we want we were done in the past um we want we were talking with churches a lot about things talking with churches a lot about things talking with churches a lot about things that that that were that they needed help with and this were that they needed help with and this were that they needed help with and this Clips uh you know two years ago uh year Clips uh you know two years ago uh year Clips uh you know two years ago uh year and a half ago just kept coming up over and a half ago just kept coming up over and a half ago just kept coming up over and over and over like this is the thing and over and over like this is the thing and over and over like this is the thing we're doing and it's taking us two hours we're doing and it's taking us two hours we're doing and it's taking us two hours to do on a clip and uh so basically we to do on a clip and uh so basically we to do on a clip and uh so basically we just it it seemed like this was the just it it seemed like this was the just it it seemed like this was the thing that churches needed help with um thing that churches needed help with um thing that churches needed help with um and so we just started putting something and so we just started putting something and so we just started putting something together uh my my history I guess my together uh my my history I guess my together uh my my history I guess my background is is a developer in design background is is a developer in design background is is a developer in design space and so we I already knew kind of space and so we I already knew kind of space and so we I already knew kind of this space that was also partly why we this space that was also partly why we this space that was also partly why we got into this was I already had some got into this was I already had some got into this was I already had some knowledge in this area um so we started knowledge in this area um so we started knowledge in this area um so we started putting something together and yeah putting something together and yeah putting something together and yeah again it wasn't AI specific like that

again it wasn't AI specific like that again it wasn't AI specific like that wasn't that wasn't the end goal the end wasn't that wasn't the end goal the end wasn't that wasn't the end goal the end goal was just how can we make clips for goal was just how can we make clips for goal was just how can we make clips for churches really easy um and then churches really easy um and then churches really easy um and then throughout that process even more throughout that process even more throughout that process even more recently recently recently 12 months ago AI has just exploded right 12 months ago AI has just exploded right 12 months ago AI has just exploded right like access to AI has exploded and um so like access to AI has exploded and um so like access to AI has exploded and um so now we build that in to make that happen now we build that in to make that happen now we build that in to make that happen so that yeah yeah that's great yeah yeah so that yeah yeah that's great yeah yeah so that yeah yeah that's great yeah yeah and I'm also thinking that there's and I'm also thinking that there's and I'm also thinking that there's people who are listening who are not people who are listening who are not people who are listening who are not doing Clips at all for their churches so doing Clips at all for their churches so doing Clips at all for their churches so maybe could you just explain a little maybe could you just explain a little maybe could you just explain a little bit why would a church consider doing bit why would a church consider doing bit why would a church consider doing sermon Clips at all what what's the sermon Clips at all what what's the sermon Clips at all what what's the benefit of doing that and and maybe just benefit of doing that and and maybe just benefit of doing that and and maybe just for those of you in case you're someone for those of you in case you're someone for those of you in case you're someone who's like I don't even know what that who's like I don't even know what that who's like I don't even know what that even even even means maybe also just kind of give it a means maybe also just kind of give it a means maybe also just kind of give it a brief explanation of what is a you know brief explanation of what is a you know brief explanation of what is a you know what is vertical form content you know what is vertical form content you know what is vertical form content you know where do you see that that kind of stuff where do you see that that kind of stuff where do you see that that kind of stuff yeah yeah and apologies I probably yeah yeah and apologies I probably yeah yeah and apologies I probably should have mentioned that at the should have mentioned that at the should have mentioned that at the beginning in my in my uh original answer beginning in my in my uh original answer beginning in my in my uh original answer but yeah short form video reals is right but yeah short form video reals is right but yeah short form video reals is right now is is really where most of the reach now is is really where most of the reach now is is really where most of the reach on social media is happening not just on social media is happening not just on social media is happening not just churches but all social media and it's churches but all social media and it's churches but all social media and it's the vertical format think Tik Tok I the vertical format think Tik Tok I the vertical format think Tik Tok I think most people know Tik Tok now I'm think most people know Tik Tok now I'm think most people know Tik Tok now I'm not saying that Tik Tok is where you not saying that Tik Tok is where you not saying that Tik Tok is where you need to be but just think Tik Tok it's need to be but just think Tik Tok it's need to be but just think Tik Tok it's the vertical format taking up your whole

the vertical format taking up your whole the vertical format taking up your whole Space right so vertical format when I Space right so vertical format when I Space right so vertical format when I mean it's like this not how we typically mean it's like this not how we typically mean it's like this not how we typically watch watch you know uh watch watch you know uh watch watch you know uh horizontal uh and it's horizontal uh and it's horizontal uh and it's short people want short clips now and short people want short clips now and short people want short clips now and when I say short generally under 60 when I say short generally under 60 when I say short generally under 60 seconds 30 seconds is kind of uh seconds 30 seconds is kind of uh seconds 30 seconds is kind of uh probably around an average of some a lot probably around an average of some a lot probably around an average of some a lot of these um and so it's and then when of these um and so it's and then when of these um and so it's and then when you combine this with churches it's what you combine this with churches it's what you combine this with churches it's what I call a sermon clip so it's take your I call a sermon clip so it's take your I call a sermon clip so it's take your sermon and do that right because your sermon and do that right because your sermon and do that right because your sermon 30 minutes 45 minutes two hours sermon 30 minutes 45 minutes two hours sermon 30 minutes 45 minutes two hours what however long you you do your what however long you you do your what however long you you do your sermon can't fit on that platform that's sermon can't fit on that platform that's sermon can't fit on that platform that's not what that platform is for those not what that platform is for those not what that platform is for those platforms are specifically for short platforms are specifically for short platforms are specifically for short clips um and I feel like churches that clips um and I feel like churches that clips um and I feel like churches that aren't doing this then are missing out aren't doing this then are missing out aren't doing this then are missing out on a huge opportunity so if you just say on a huge opportunity so if you just say on a huge opportunity so if you just say no my sermon can't fit no my sermon can't fit no my sermon can't fit there you're missing out because this is there you're missing out because this is there you're missing out because this is where this is where a significant amount where this is where a significant amount where this is where a significant amount of people are getting all their of people are getting all their of people are getting all their entertainment um their news their like entertainment um their news their like entertainment um their news their like this is where people are I've seen stats this is where people are I've seen stats this is where people are I've seen stats that show that uh people are watching that show that uh people are watching that show that uh people are watching just as much videos on these platforms just as much videos on these platforms just as much videos on these platforms as they are watching Netflix and so this as they are watching Netflix and so this as they are watching Netflix and so this is where people are and if you're not if is where people are and if you're not if is where people are and if you're not if the if the church is not in those the if the church is not in those the if the church is not in those platforms I feel

platforms I feel platforms I feel like not only the The Big C church is like not only the The Big C church is like not only the The Big C church is missing out on that opportunity but just missing out on that opportunity but just missing out on that opportunity but just you individually your church you individually your church you individually your church individually meeting uh reaching people individually meeting uh reaching people individually meeting uh reaching people that want to hear what you have to say that want to hear what you have to say that want to hear what you have to say so so so uh yeah I I kind of that was a long uh yeah I I kind of that was a long uh yeah I I kind of that was a long probably answer to that but that that's probably answer to that but that that's probably answer to that but that that's what that's why I think churches should what that's why I think churches should what that's why I think churches should be there yeah and the two things that I be there yeah and the two things that I be there yeah and the two things that I I I I want to point out that I agree I I I want to point out that I agree I I I want to point out that I agree with and and I also noticed from with and and I also noticed from with and and I also noticed from speaking with churches is as a church speaking with churches is as a church speaking with churches is as a church our goal our mission is to go where our goal our mission is to go where our goal our mission is to go where people people people are and to your point people are are and to your point people are are and to your point people are watching vertical form video uh often watching vertical form video uh often watching vertical form video uh often mindlessly scrolling up from video to mindlessly scrolling up from video to mindlessly scrolling up from video to video uh you know watching people I video uh you know watching people I video uh you know watching people I don't know you don't know you don't know you know whatever you know whatever mindless know whatever you know whatever mindless know whatever you know whatever mindless videos that we we we scroll ourselves videos that we we we scroll ourselves videos that we we we scroll ourselves through quotes from scenes from TV shows through quotes from scenes from TV shows through quotes from scenes from TV shows and whatever whatever the algorithm and whatever whatever the algorithm and whatever whatever the algorithm wants to show us um but why not Church wants to show us um but why not Church wants to show us um but why not Church clips and sermon clips and if that is a clips and sermon clips and if that is a clips and sermon clips and if that is a thing that and in just a brief moment thing that and in just a brief moment thing that and in just a brief moment can grab somebody's heart attension to can grab somebody's heart attension to can grab somebody's heart attension to uh incite them to take a next step with uh incite them to take a next step with uh incite them to take a next step with God or a connection with a local church God or a connection with a local church God or a connection with a local church then that's that's where the church then that's that's where the church then that's that's where the church needs to be and so it's it's a it's I

needs to be and so it's it's a it's I needs to be and so it's it's a it's I feel like it's moving towards with feel like it's moving towards with feel like it's moving towards with churches that something like sermon churches that something like sermon churches that something like sermon shorts and sermon Snippets are almost shorts and sermon Snippets are almost shorts and sermon Snippets are almost like lwh hanging fruit when it comes to like lwh hanging fruit when it comes to like lwh hanging fruit when it comes to social media where for church to be on social media where for church to be on social media where for church to be on social media a very loow hanging fruit social media a very loow hanging fruit social media a very loow hanging fruit you should be doing is creating some you should be doing is creating some you should be doing is creating some Snippets using a platform like sermon Snippets using a platform like sermon Snippets using a platform like sermon shorts uh or uh sermon shots sorry we shorts uh or uh sermon shots sorry we shorts uh or uh sermon shots sorry we have sermon all the words in my head have sermon all the words in my head have sermon all the words in my head sermon shorts sermon shots yes well sermon shorts sermon shots yes well sermon shorts sermon shots yes well people call them sermon shorts as well people call them sermon shorts as well people call them sermon shorts as well so yes I know which which it works well so yes I know which which it works well so yes I know which which it works well because you're like if you want sermon because you're like if you want sermon because you're like if you want sermon shorts you go to sermon shots so but a shorts you go to sermon shots so but a shorts you go to sermon shots so but a platform like sermon shots or something platform like sermon shots or something platform like sermon shots or something else and it's it's kind of lwh hanging else and it's it's kind of lwh hanging else and it's it's kind of lwh hanging fruit because a platform like sermon fruit because a platform like sermon fruit because a platform like sermon shots makes it easy and so it's it's shots makes it easy and so it's it's shots makes it easy and so it's it's actually a pretty cool thing yeah and I actually a pretty cool thing yeah and I actually a pretty cool thing yeah and I I think to to build on top of what we're I think to to build on top of what we're I think to to build on top of what we're saying there about the importance is for saying there about the importance is for saying there about the importance is for the the local church as well what makes the the local church as well what makes the the local church as well what makes these vertical format like videos these vertical format like videos these vertical format like videos different is how these platforms are different is how these platforms are different is how these platforms are showing them to people so it's it's it's showing them to people so it's it's it's showing them to people so it's it's it's not like what social media used to be uh not like what social media used to be uh not like what social media used to be uh where you post something and it gets where you post something and it gets where you post something and it gets seen by 10% of your followers and then seen by 10% of your followers and then seen by 10% of your followers and then if one of your followers likes it maybe if one of your followers likes it maybe if one of your followers likes it maybe an occasional random person will then an occasional random person will then an occasional random person will then also see it because they're associated also see it because they're associated also see it because they're associated with that person right but now it's

with that person right but now it's with that person right but now it's actually mostly the other way it's actually mostly the other way it's actually mostly the other way it's they're sharing it to any body it they're sharing it to any body it they're sharing it to any body it actually who follows you doesn't even actually who follows you doesn't even actually who follows you doesn't even matter and so you're reach you have the matter and so you're reach you have the matter and so you're reach you have the potential to reach and expand way past potential to reach and expand way past potential to reach and expand way past your followers most churches are your followers most churches are your followers most churches are actually seeing that their Clips get actually seeing that their Clips get actually seeing that their Clips get seen by more people that aren't their seen by more people that aren't their seen by more people that aren't their followers than are followers than are followers than are and that that's huge for the church and and that that's huge for the church and and that that's huge for the church and then even taking that another step then even taking that another step then even taking that another step further combining that with the fact further combining that with the fact further combining that with the fact that the these algorithms are just so that the these algorithms are just so that the these algorithms are just so smart they're you know they're sending smart they're you know they're sending smart they're you know they're sending it to the people they think will like it it to the people they think will like it it to the people they think will like it one of the parts of the algorithm is one of the parts of the algorithm is one of the parts of the algorithm is location so if location is a significant location so if location is a significant location so if location is a significant part of your video which a church is in part of your video which a church is in part of your video which a church is in a lot of a lot of a lot of cases your clip will be cases your clip will be cases your clip will be shown more to people around you than shown more to people around you than shown more to people around you than than outside at least all else being than outside at least all else being than outside at least all else being equal that these algorithms are very equal that these algorithms are very equal that these algorithms are very complicated so it's not that simple but complicated so it's not that simple but complicated so it's not that simple but people are getting to see them that are people are getting to see them that are people are getting to see them that are closer to you which is huge for the closer to you which is huge for the closer to you which is huge for the church so church so church so yeah yeah yeah um it kind of makes me just kind of move um it kind of makes me just kind of move um it kind of makes me just kind of move towards thinking towards thinking towards thinking about where this is going and what's about where this is going and what's about where this is going and what's next so I I kind of be curious either next so I I kind of be curious either next so I I kind of be curious either just for sermon shots itself or just just for sermon shots itself or just just for sermon shots itself or just bigger picture if you think about sermon bigger picture if you think about sermon bigger picture if you think about sermon Clips using AI related to sermons for Clips using AI related to sermons for Clips using AI related to sermons for churches tell me what you think is next

churches tell me what you think is next churches tell me what you think is next and kind of like where Church's mind and kind of like where Church's mind and kind of like where Church's mind should start going next when it comes to should start going next when it comes to should start going next when it comes to sermons sermon clips that kind of sermons sermon clips that kind of sermons sermon clips that kind of stuff like what stuff like what stuff like what are well how about maybe even you guys are well how about maybe even you guys are well how about maybe even you guys how about you guys specifically with how about you guys specifically with how about you guys specifically with sermon shots where is your guys mind sermon shots where is your guys mind sermon shots where is your guys mind going next for for where you think yeah going next for for where you think yeah going next for for where you think yeah where where's this train going you know where where's this train going you know where where's this train going you know what kind are there features you're what kind are there features you're what kind are there features you're thinking about developing whatever you thinking about developing whatever you thinking about developing whatever you can share just or just brainstorm that can share just or just brainstorm that can share just or just brainstorm that kind of stuff sure sure I actually I can kind of stuff sure sure I actually I can kind of stuff sure sure I actually I can speak very specifically to a thing that speak very specifically to a thing that speak very specifically to a thing that we I can now publicly say that is coming we I can now publicly say that is coming we I can now publicly say that is coming in the next couple weeks uh is a new AI in the next couple weeks uh is a new AI in the next couple weeks uh is a new AI feature called uh AI camera crew which feature called uh AI camera crew which feature called uh AI camera crew which is basically for for churches who don't is basically for for churches who don't is basically for for churches who don't have a the vertical format right is a have a the vertical format right is a have a the vertical format right is a much smaller space left and right and um much smaller space left and right and um much smaller space left and right and um most churches have a pastor who doesn't most churches have a pastor who doesn't most churches have a pastor who doesn't just stay right in the middle and just stay right in the middle and just stay right in the middle and doesn't have a camera that follows them doesn't have a camera that follows them doesn't have a camera that follows them so they've got this wide area and so if so they've got this wide area and so if so they've got this wide area and so if the pastor goes off the vertical um our the pastor goes off the vertical um our the pastor goes off the vertical um our camera will follow them basically to camera will follow them basically to camera will follow them basically to keep them in the center so that they're keep them in the center so that they're keep them in the center so that they're always in the center of the vertical always in the center of the vertical always in the center of the vertical format and it looks looks just like you format and it looks looks just like you format and it looks looks just like you actually have a camera person there actually have a camera person there actually have a camera person there doing it so um yeah that that is useful doing it so um yeah that that is useful doing it so um yeah that that is useful in a lot of cases for this for

in a lot of cases for this for in a lot of cases for this for specifically for churches um is is specifically for churches um is is specifically for churches um is is really helpful that's awesome that's really helpful that's awesome that's really helpful that's awesome that's very cool yeah so if very cool yeah so if very cool yeah so if uh if if if you follow sermon shots at uh if if if you follow sermon shots at uh if if if you follow sermon shots at all or you do after this you'll see all or you do after this you'll see all or you do after this you'll see you'll see some news come out here you'll see some news come out here you'll see some news come out here really soon about that cool that's really soon about that cool that's really soon about that cool that's awesome Corey that's very cool and then awesome Corey that's very cool and then awesome Corey that's very cool and then yeah and then generally I can't speak to yeah and then generally I can't speak to yeah and then generally I can't speak to a whole lot of specifics here but a whole lot of specifics here but a whole lot of specifics here but generally I think there's there's more generally I think there's there's more generally I think there's there's more you can do with your video than Just you can do with your video than Just you can do with your video than Just Clips there's um you know there's Clips there's um you know there's Clips there's um you know there's there's a little bit longer format stuff there's a little bit longer format stuff there's a little bit longer format stuff that you can do with your videos there's that you can do with your videos there's that you can do with your videos there's um you know some Churches do like five um you know some Churches do like five um you know some Churches do like five to eight minute sort of like Recaps on to eight minute sort of like Recaps on to eight minute sort of like Recaps on their stuff like those are things you their stuff like those are things you their stuff like those are things you know just as a general thought that know just as a general thought that know just as a general thought that there's more you can do video wise with there's more you can do video wise with there's more you can do video wise with your sermon so yeah yeah I I we are we your sermon so yeah yeah I I we are we your sermon so yeah yeah I I we are we are constantly thinking about uh all the are constantly thinking about uh all the are constantly thinking about uh all the different things and testing doing a different things and testing doing a different things and testing doing a little bit R&D in the background with little bit R&D in the background with little bit R&D in the background with all these different all these different all these different things cool that's very awesome yeah and things cool that's very awesome yeah and things cool that's very awesome yeah and it is exciting to think about you it is exciting to think about you it is exciting to think about you know like what's next and where we're know like what's next and where we're know like what's next and where we're going next and the crazy thing is that going next and the crazy thing is that going next and the crazy thing is that it changes so fast like I mean that's it changes so fast like I mean that's it changes so fast like I mean that's where like all of a sudden Dolly 3 comes where like all of a sudden Dolly 3 comes where like all of a sudden Dolly 3 comes out and pach bt4 ads out and pach bt4 ads out and pach bt4 ads in I will say all these things that in I will say all these things that in I will say all these things that happen in the AI space give us more

happen in the AI space give us more happen in the AI space give us more ideas as well I think how churches and ideas as well I think how churches and ideas as well I think how churches and what we're seeing churches do that works what we're seeing churches do that works what we're seeing churches do that works well like if you know they're uh well like if you know they're uh well like if you know they're uh churches find that doing this thing on churches find that doing this thing on churches find that doing this thing on their sermon clip is really helpful and their sermon clip is really helpful and their sermon clip is really helpful and we see that Trend happening like one we see that Trend happening like one we see that Trend happening like one great thing about us is we can jump on great thing about us is we can jump on great thing about us is we can jump on those things pretty quickly and say oh those things pretty quickly and say oh those things pretty quickly and say oh here this is what's working for other here this is what's working for other here this is what's working for other churches you can now do this in sermon churches you can now do this in sermon churches you can now do this in sermon shops so those are things that that shops so those are things that that shops so those are things that that we're constantly looking at too cool um we're constantly looking at too cool um we're constantly looking at too cool um so just uh as we think about you know so just uh as we think about you know so just uh as we think about you know where do we go next if a person is where do we go next if a person is where do we go next if a person is listening to this and they're saying I I listening to this and they're saying I I listening to this and they're saying I I don't know where to start how kind of don't know where to start how kind of don't know where to start how kind of how would you suggest a person get how would you suggest a person get how would you suggest a person get started with you know vertical form started with you know vertical form started with you know vertical form video even you know with sermon video even you know with sermon video even you know with sermon shots yeah on uh on sermon shots we've shots yeah on uh on sermon shots we've shots yeah on uh on sermon shots we've we've made this process pretty simple we've made this process pretty simple we've made this process pretty simple because we have heard this a lot a lot because we have heard this a lot a lot because we have heard this a lot a lot of churches say well I don't even know of churches say well I don't even know of churches say well I don't even know like what I have no idea what to do to like what I have no idea what to do to like what I have no idea what to do to get started uh so we have an option get started uh so we have an option get started uh so we have an option actually where you can sign up and we actually where you can sign up and we actually where you can sign up and we will make the two clips for you as like will make the two clips for you as like will make the two clips for you as like a we make them we send them to you you a we make them we send them to you you a we make them we send them to you you post them and just confirm what we're post them and just confirm what we're post them and just confirm what we're saying that if you post these things saying that if you post these things saying that if you post these things you'll get a lot of views this is this you'll get a lot of views this is this you'll get a lot of views this is this is what people want to see uh so we make is what people want to see uh so we make is what people want to see uh so we make we make the clips for them and then we we make the clips for them and then we we make the clips for them and then we have a we have a person on our team have a we have a person on our team have a we have a person on our team who's uh devoted to just here's the who's uh devoted to just here's the who's uh devoted to just here's the clips that we made for you let me just clips that we made for you let me just clips that we made for you let me just in 10 minutes show you how this works

in 10 minutes show you how this works in 10 minutes show you how this works I'll prove it to you that I can I made I'll prove it to you that I can I made I'll prove it to you that I can I made this clip in 10 minutes on sermon shots this clip in 10 minutes on sermon shots this clip in 10 minutes on sermon shots and it's really simple and most people and it's really simple and most people and it's really simple and most people are like well I've heard multiple times are like well I've heard multiple times are like well I've heard multiple times Oh I thought that was more like a Oh I thought that was more like a Oh I thought that was more like a marketing message oh make sermon Clips marketing message oh make sermon Clips marketing message oh make sermon Clips in five minutes make sermon Clips in 10 in five minutes make sermon Clips in 10 in five minutes make sermon Clips in 10 minutes I thought that was you know just minutes I thought that was you know just minutes I thought that was you know just a marketing message but they're like oh a marketing message but they're like oh a marketing message but they're like oh yeah you just showed me like you just yeah you just showed me like you just yeah you just showed me like you just did it I can do that so that's that's did it I can do that so that's that's did it I can do that so that's that's the process that we typically see that the process that we typically see that the process that we typically see that we tell people to take on sermon shots we tell people to take on sermon shots we tell people to take on sermon shots yeah that's great and we'll have a link yeah that's great and we'll have a link yeah that's great and we'll have a link in our uh podcast notes here um that in our uh podcast notes here um that in our uh podcast notes here um that people can click on to just kind of you people can click on to just kind of you people can click on to just kind of you know check out sermon shots you can go know check out sermon shots you can go know check out sermon shots you can go to the your website sermon shots.com as to the your website sermon shots.com as to the your website sermon shots.com as well um but yeah we whether it's sermon well um but yeah we whether it's sermon well um but yeah we whether it's sermon shots again um I want to invite you on shots again um I want to invite you on shots again um I want to invite you on to chat about sermon shots specifically to chat about sermon shots specifically to chat about sermon shots specifically but just saying there's other ones out but just saying there's other ones out but just saying there's other ones out there and and sermon shots is a great there and and sermon shots is a great there and and sermon shots is a great one and uh you know we as a company one and uh you know we as a company one and uh you know we as a company don't you know it's not like we're don't you know it's not like we're don't you know it's not like we're married to anyone one place but we do married to anyone one place but we do married to anyone one place but we do think sermon CH is a cool option and uh think sermon CH is a cool option and uh think sermon CH is a cool option and uh so but the big picture is we do think so but the big picture is we do think so but the big picture is we do think every church should be considering every church should be considering every church should be considering creating a vertical form video from creating a vertical form video from creating a vertical form video from their sermons to help their sermons go their sermons to help their sermons go their sermons to help their sermons go further we talk about all the time in further we talk about all the time in further we talk about all the time in missional marketing um how churches missional marketing um how churches missional marketing um how churches spend a large portion of the research or spend a large portion of the research or spend a large portion of the research or resources investing in sermons and their resources investing in sermons and their resources investing in sermons and their sermons are the primary uh discipleship sermons are the primary uh discipleship sermons are the primary uh discipleship method that they use uh for their method that they use uh for their method that they use uh for their congregations but the kind of the crazy

congregations but the kind of the crazy congregations but the kind of the crazy sad thing is is that most churches or a sad thing is is that most churches or a sad thing is is that most churches or a pastor will spend you know 20 up to 30 pastor will spend you know 20 up to 30 pastor will spend you know 20 up to 30 hours a week working on this thing hours a week working on this thing hours a week working on this thing present it close the book on it put it present it close the book on it put it present it close the book on it put it on the shelf and never think about it on the shelf and never think about it on the shelf and never think about it again right and it just seems like such again right and it just seems like such again right and it just seems like such a a a travesty and and to be honest like a a a travesty and and to be honest like a a a travesty and and to be honest like a a waste of resources and a waste of a a waste of resources and a waste of a a waste of resources and a waste of you know God's spirit filling a person you know God's spirit filling a person you know God's spirit filling a person to to share a thing a life-giving to to share a thing a life-giving to to share a thing a life-giving message that can go way further than message that can go way further than message that can go way further than just Sunday morning so that's where just Sunday morning so that's where just Sunday morning so that's where we're always just trying to encourage we're always just trying to encourage we're always just trying to encourage churches we want to help your sermons go churches we want to help your sermons go churches we want to help your sermons go further than just Sunday and so that's further than just Sunday and so that's further than just Sunday and so that's where something like sermon shots or where something like sermon shots or where something like sermon shots or creating vertical form video from your creating vertical form video from your creating vertical form video from your sermons is a very helpful step in sermons is a very helpful step in sermons is a very helpful step in helping that happen yeah absolutely helping that happen yeah absolutely helping that happen yeah absolutely well thanks so much Corey it was great well thanks so much Corey it was great well thanks so much Corey it was great to chat thanks so much for your Insight to chat thanks so much for your Insight to chat thanks so much for your Insight about vertical form video sermons and about vertical form video sermons and about vertical form video sermons and introducing us to sermon shots and uh introducing us to sermon shots and uh introducing us to sermon shots and uh thanks for the conversation yeah thank thanks for the conversation yeah thank thanks for the conversation yeah thank you for having me it was