The Definitive Church Photography Shot List

every week we coordinate and send out every week we coordinate and send out photographers to churches all around the photographers to churches all around the photographers to churches all around the world these photographers are given a world these photographers are given a world these photographers are given a shot list rules for etiquette plus a shot list rules for etiquette plus a shot list rules for etiquette plus a rundown of all the gear to bring today rundown of all the gear to bring today rundown of all the gear to bring today we're sharing all of that with you plus we're sharing all of that with you plus we're sharing all of that with you plus example galleries from actual successful example galleries from actual successful example galleries from actual successful Church photo shoots can demonstrate what Church photo shoots can demonstrate what Church photo shoots can demonstrate what this is all meant to look like this is this is all meant to look like this is this is all meant to look like this is the definitive Church photography shot the definitive Church photography shot the definitive Church photography shot list let's dive list let's dive list let's dive in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you in your church navigate the biggest in your church navigate the biggest in your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm Brady Sherer your host I'm join us Brady Sherer your host I'm join us Brady Sherer your host I'm join us always by my co-host we call him father always by my co-host we call him father always by my co-host we call him father photo shoot it's Alexander Mills hello photo shoot it's Alexander Mills hello photo shoot it's Alexander Mills hello hello and today's episode is broken up hello and today's episode is broken up hello and today's episode is broken up into four sections let's talk about into four sections let's talk about into four sections let's talk about those sections number one the definition those sections number one the definition those sections number one the definition of a successful Church photo shoot of a successful Church photo shoot of a successful Church photo shoot number two what to bring three the shot number two what to bring three the shot number two what to bring three the shot list and number four rules and etiquette list and number four rules and etiquette list and number four rules and etiquette for church photographers so let's begin for church photographers so let's begin for church photographers so let's begin with number one our definition for a with number one our definition for a with number one our definition for a successful Church photo shoot and it successful Church photo shoot and it successful Church photo shoot and it reads like this quote a successful reads like this quote a successful reads like this quote a successful Church photo shoot is all about Church photo shoot is all about Church photo shoot is all about capturing the organic nature of church capturing the organic nature of church capturing the organic nature of church life with an emphasis on the people and life with an emphasis on the people and life with an emphasis on the people and there are two operative words in this there are two operative words in this there are two operative words in this definition organic and people there's definition organic and people there's definition organic and people there's two reasons why this is so important two reasons why this is so important two reasons why this is so important number one obviously the theological number one obviously the theological number one obviously the theological reason right the church is the people reason right the church is the people reason right the church is the people it's not the building it's not the it's not the building it's not the it's not the building it's not the programming you know sometimes when I programming you know sometimes when I programming you know sometimes when I think about uh visiting restaurants I think about uh visiting restaurants I think about uh visiting restaurants I like to compare it to visiting churches like to compare it to visiting churches like to compare it to visiting churches for the first time and if you went to a for the first time and if you went to a for the first time and if you went to a restaurant's uh Google business profile restaurant's uh Google business profile restaurant's uh Google business profile if you went to their website ideally you if you went to their website ideally you if you went to their website ideally you would see something related to their men would see something related to their men would see something related to their men menu you would see what it looks like I menu you would see what it looks like I menu you would see what it looks like I don't know about you when I go to a trip

don't know about you when I go to a trip don't know about you when I go to a trip advisor or a Google business profile for advisor or a Google business profile for advisor or a Google business profile for a restaurant I'm going to for the first a restaurant I'm going to for the first a restaurant I'm going to for the first time I will look at their photos like time I will look at their photos like time I will look at their photos like what does your burger actually look like what does your burger actually look like what does your burger actually look like and and churches we don't have product and and churches we don't have product and and churches we don't have product right we don't have like something to right we don't have like something to right we don't have like something to sell what we have are Faith communities sell what we have are Faith communities sell what we have are Faith communities and what are the substances of that and what are the substances of that and what are the substances of that Community it is the people yeah and Community it is the people yeah and Community it is the people yeah and that's why a successful Church photo that's why a successful Church photo that's why a successful Church photo shoot doesn't look like an architectural shoot doesn't look like an architectural shoot doesn't look like an architectural shoot where you're capturing a bunch of shoot where you're capturing a bunch of shoot where you're capturing a bunch of great photos of a really nice building great photos of a really nice building great photos of a really nice building or a really big building or a nice LED or a really big building or a nice LED or a really big building or a nice LED wall but it's photos that tell the story wall but it's photos that tell the story wall but it's photos that tell the story of the community um in still frames of the community um in still frames of the community um in still frames which can be a little bit more which can be a little bit more which can be a little bit more challenging in some instances than like challenging in some instances than like challenging in some instances than like shooting um live uh video clips and so shooting um live uh video clips and so shooting um live uh video clips and so you've got one chance with one still you've got one chance with one still you've got one chance with one still photo to tell the story of a church and photo to tell the story of a church and photo to tell the story of a church and the story of the church is not about the the story of the church is not about the the story of the church is not about the building it's not about the architecture building it's not about the architecture building it's not about the architecture it is about the people the bodies that it is about the people the bodies that it is about the people the bodies that make up the collective Capital C church make up the collective Capital C church make up the collective Capital C church so I I think it's just so appropriate so I I think it's just so appropriate so I I think it's just so appropriate that we start there that the the that we start there that the the that we start there that the the definition of a successful Church photo definition of a successful Church photo definition of a successful Church photo shoot first and foremost is rooted in shoot first and foremost is rooted in shoot first and foremost is rooted in like theological convictions yeah and like theological convictions yeah and like theological convictions yeah and the idea is people but what's the other the idea is people but what's the other the idea is people but what's the other operative term in that definition operative term in that definition operative term in that definition organic and this is the part that I organic and this is the part that I organic and this is the part that I think is really just as important think is really just as important think is really just as important because yeah you can have staff stand because yeah you can have staff stand because yeah you can have staff stand against a wall and take their head shots against a wall and take their head shots against a wall and take their head shots for the staff page which is important for the staff page which is important for the staff page which is important but the idea is you want to see things but the idea is you want to see things but the idea is you want to see things that are happening organically coming that are happening organically coming that are happening organically coming out of the Olympics like what are the out of the Olympics like what are the out of the Olympics like what are the most uh like the Imes that are echoing most uh like the Imes that are echoing most uh like the Imes that are echoing in our mind from the Olympics are those in our mind from the Olympics are those in our mind from the Olympics are those photos of people like in the moment

photos of people like in the moment photos of people like in the moment doing these amazing things and and it's doing these amazing things and and it's doing these amazing things and and it's organic it was happening it was real it organic it was happening it was real it organic it was happening it was real it felt uh it felt honest the image that felt uh it felt honest the image that felt uh it felt honest the image that seared to my mind from the Olympics is seared to my mind from the Olympics is seared to my mind from the Olympics is an Australian break dancer by the name an Australian break dancer by the name an Australian break dancer by the name of ray gun yeah yeah we're probably a of ray gun yeah yeah we're probably a of ray gun yeah yeah we're probably a bit late to this conversation at this bit late to this conversation at this bit late to this conversation at this point by the time man that was that was point by the time man that was that was point by the time man that was that was crazy but the memes they're still going crazy but the memes they're still going crazy but the memes they're still going yeah praise God for that so the first uh yeah praise God for that so the first uh yeah praise God for that so the first uh reason theological second is practical reason theological second is practical reason theological second is practical and and I love when we get this and and I love when we get this and and I love when we get this intersection right like we talk often intersection right like we talk often intersection right like we talk often about the intersections of faith and about the intersections of faith and about the intersections of faith and culture for subject matter for social culture for subject matter for social culture for subject matter for social media content for sermon content media content for sermon content media content for sermon content whatever you might be doing what I also whatever you might be doing what I also whatever you might be doing what I also love is when something makes sense love is when something makes sense love is when something makes sense missionally for a church and it's the missionally for a church and it's the missionally for a church and it's the best option for Effectiveness because best option for Effectiveness because best option for Effectiveness because you can't choose Effectiveness if it you can't choose Effectiveness if it you can't choose Effectiveness if it goes against your Church's Mission which goes against your Church's Mission which goes against your Church's Mission which means sometimes we are choosing things means sometimes we are choosing things means sometimes we are choosing things that are not the most effective because that are not the most effective because that are not the most effective because we're like hey my convictions and our we're like hey my convictions and our we're like hey my convictions and our Church's mission is this yes this would Church's mission is this yes this would Church's mission is this yes this would work sure but would we be okay with work sure but would we be okay with work sure but would we be okay with ourselves if we did it when those two ourselves if we did it when those two ourselves if we did it when those two things are the same thing that's great things are the same thing that's great things are the same thing that's great because a photo can communicate in an because a photo can communicate in an because a photo can communicate in an instant what would take paragraphs worth instant what would take paragraphs worth instant what would take paragraphs worth of text and so as we go through the of text and so as we go through the of text and so as we go through the specifics in the upcoming sections of specifics in the upcoming sections of specifics in the upcoming sections of this episode of gear and Framing and the this episode of gear and Framing and the this episode of gear and Framing and the list of the shots that we me uh that we list of the shots that we me uh that we list of the shots that we me uh that we need I just want everyone to continue to need I just want everyone to continue to need I just want everyone to continue to remind yourself um of the philosophy remind yourself um of the philosophy remind yourself um of the philosophy that underpins all of this which is that underpins all of this which is that underpins all of this which is organic and people organic and people organic and people organic and people organic and people organic and people now at the top of the show we said that now at the top of the show we said that now at the top of the show we said that every week we send out photographers to every week we send out photographers to every week we send out photographers to churches all around the world I would churches all around the world I would churches all around the world I would not be surprised if some of you heard not be surprised if some of you heard not be surprised if some of you heard that and were curious what do you mean

that and were curious what do you mean that and were curious what do you mean what does that actually mean be what I what does that actually mean be what I what does that actually mean be what I used to say I'm getting shipped out used to say I'm getting shipped out used to say I'm getting shipped out every week it's crazy this man hasn't every week it's crazy this man hasn't every week it's crazy this man hasn't seen his children in in years his family seen his children in in years his family seen his children in in years his family just he's told his sons oh yeah he's just he's told his sons oh yeah he's just he's told his sons oh yeah he's deployed that's what we've gone with at deployed that's what we've gone with at deployed that's what we've gone with at this point um it's like when I used to this point um it's like when I used to this point um it's like when I used to say he's a he's a sharpshooter oh 100% say he's a he's a sharpshooter oh 100% say he's a he's a sharpshooter oh 100% Oh Sister Sharpshooter that's ray Oh Sister Sharpshooter that's ray Oh Sister Sharpshooter that's ray gun you like that they I'm making it gun you like that they I'm making it gun you like that they I'm making it relevant again yeah so uh you know I relevant again yeah so uh you know I relevant again yeah so uh you know I used to say and is true I oh you know i' used to say and is true I oh you know i' used to say and is true I oh you know i' I've I've delivered 15,000 church I've I've delivered 15,000 church I've I've delivered 15,000 church announcements and people like okay announcements and people like okay announcements and people like okay before we go any further can we like before we go any further can we like before we go any further can we like unpack that uh of course I used to do unpack that uh of course I used to do unpack that uh of course I used to do video announcements for churches it was video announcements for churches it was video announcements for churches it was like all I did and so that's how that like all I did and so that's how that like all I did and so that's how that added up how are we sending out added up how are we sending out added up how are we sending out photographers to churches all around the photographers to churches all around the photographers to churches all around the world every single week it's part of our world every single week it's part of our world every single week it's part of our commitment that we announced earlier commitment that we announced earlier commitment that we announced earlier this year this ambitious campaign the this year this ambitious campaign the this year this ambitious campaign the most ambitious project we've ever done most ambitious project we've ever done most ambitious project we've ever done giving 1,000 churches free website giving 1,000 churches free website giving 1,000 churches free website makeovers by the end of 2025 now we makeovers by the end of 2025 now we makeovers by the end of 2025 now we haven't given podcast listeners an haven't given podcast listeners an haven't given podcast listeners an update on that in a little while so as update on that in a little while so as update on that in a little while so as of this recording more than 1500 of this recording more than 1500 of this recording more than 1500 churches are on the waiting list for churches are on the waiting list for churches are on the waiting list for free website makeovers and right now free website makeovers and right now free website makeovers and right now there are there are there are 173 Church website makeovers in progress 173 Church website makeovers in progress 173 Church website makeovers in progress wow we are working at a rapid Pace uh wow we are working at a rapid Pace uh wow we are working at a rapid Pace uh but we want it to work even faster I but we want it to work even faster I but we want it to work even faster I posted on Instagram stories hey if you posted on Instagram stories hey if you posted on Instagram stories hey if you want to help us build Church websites want to help us build Church websites want to help us build Church websites apply in under 24 hours we had I think apply in under 24 hours we had I think apply in under 24 hours we had I think 275 applications so we've been working 275 applications so we've been working 275 applications so we've been working through those if you want to join the through those if you want to join the through those if you want to join the waiting list at nucleus. church you can waiting list at nucleus. church you can waiting list at nucleus. church you can do so just click the big free makeovers do so just click the big free makeovers do so just click the big free makeovers button now you might think well if there button now you might think well if there button now you might think well if there are 1500 churches on the waiting list are 1500 churches on the waiting list are 1500 churches on the waiting list and you're only doing a thousand why and you're only doing a thousand why and you're only doing a thousand why would I join the waiting list what kind would I join the waiting list what kind would I join the waiting list what kind of fool do you make me out to be well of fool do you make me out to be well of fool do you make me out to be well right now we're seeing about a 50%

right now we're seeing about a 50% right now we're seeing about a 50% response rate from the waiting list response rate from the waiting list response rate from the waiting list people will join the waiting list and people will join the waiting list and people will join the waiting list and we'll say hey it's your time and they're we'll say hey it's your time and they're we'll say hey it's your time and they're like oh you know now is not a good time like oh you know now is not a good time like oh you know now is not a good time or they don't get back to our email or or they don't get back to our email or or they don't get back to our email or whatever so that plays out continually whatever so that plays out continually whatever so that plays out continually that would mean we need more than 2,000 that would mean we need more than 2,000 that would mean we need more than 2,000 church that's right so join the waiting church that's right so join the waiting church that's right so join the waiting list nucleus. church so you said 173 list nucleus. church so you said 173 list nucleus. church so you said 173 makeovers currently in process and part makeovers currently in process and part makeovers currently in process and part of rebuilding these churches websites of rebuilding these churches websites of rebuilding these churches websites making them over on the nucleus platform making them over on the nucleus platform making them over on the nucleus platform is sending a photographer to each one of is sending a photographer to each one of is sending a photographer to each one of those churches to take photos that we those churches to take photos that we those churches to take photos that we can use for these Church website can use for these Church website can use for these Church website makeovers so by those numbers we have we makeovers so by those numbers we have we makeovers so by those numbers we have we have coordinated or likely around 100 have coordinated or likely around 100 have coordinated or likely around 100 over 170 that's right photo shoots over 170 that's right photo shoots over 170 that's right photo shoots correct all over the globe and it's been correct all over the globe and it's been correct all over the globe and it's been like eight weeks so that's a lot it's like eight weeks so that's a lot it's like eight weeks so that's a lot it's been a lot of work and so for each of been a lot of work and so for each of been a lot of work and so for each of these photographers we're giving them these photographers we're giving them these photographers we're giving them guidelines hey you're going to this guidelines hey you're going to this guidelines hey you're going to this church this is what we need from these church this is what we need from these church this is what we need from these photos this is what we expect from you photos this is what we expect from you photos this is what we expect from you and we have some suggestions and so next and we have some suggestions and so next and we have some suggestions and so next what about what should they bring yeah what about what should they bring yeah what about what should they bring yeah and the reason that this is important is and the reason that this is important is and the reason that this is important is because in the pilot project for the because in the pilot project for the because in the pilot project for the makeover campaign before we announced it makeover campaign before we announced it makeover campaign before we announced it to the world before we opened up the to the world before we opened up the to the world before we opened up the waiting list you know we had tested it waiting list you know we had tested it waiting list you know we had tested it with some Churches and before we had with some Churches and before we had with some Churches and before we had built our church photography network of built our church photography network of built our church photography network of trusted and very capable Church trusted and very capable Church trusted and very capable Church photographers we had you know explored a photographers we had you know explored a photographers we had you know explored a couple of different Avenues and one of couple of different Avenues and one of couple of different Avenues and one of those Avenues was using a secular those Avenues was using a secular those Avenues was using a secular service the you know Uber for service the you know Uber for service the you know Uber for photography I'm not going to name this photography I'm not going to name this photography I'm not going to name this service I'm not going to shame this service I'm not going to shame this service I'm not going to shame this service though I should because we had service though I should because we had service though I should because we had sent out a photographer and and we had sent out a photographer and and we had sent out a photographer and and we had given them this guide and they rolled up given them this guide and they rolled up given them this guide and they rolled up to church on a Sunday morning and they to church on a Sunday morning and they to church on a Sunday morning and they had like studio lights and they had like

had like studio lights and they had like had like studio lights and they had like giant flags and they're like where can I giant flags and they're like where can I giant flags and they're like where can I set up the tripod and the person at this set up the tripod and the person at this set up the tripod and the person at this church who I know oh jeez because they church who I know oh jeez because they church who I know oh jeez because they were part of the pilot project they were were part of the pilot project they were were part of the pilot project they were like dude who did you just send us and I like dude who did you just send us and I like dude who did you just send us and I was like I don't know what happened he's was like I don't know what happened he's was like I don't know what happened he's like man I I was trying to drum and like like man I I was trying to drum and like like man I I was trying to drum and like it all got it all went bad so we had to it all got it all went bad so we had to it all got it all went bad so we had to take things into our own hands here's take things into our own hands here's take things into our own hands here's what not to bring studio lights okay what not to bring studio lights okay what not to bring studio lights okay I'll start there you always want to work I'll start there you always want to work I'll start there you always want to work with the natural lighting condition of with the natural lighting condition of with the natural lighting condition of the church building now this would not the church building now this would not the church building now this would not be true if you're doing staff head shots be true if you're doing staff head shots be true if you're doing staff head shots also don't do those on a Sunday morning also don't do those on a Sunday morning also don't do those on a Sunday morning uh and then the second thing tripods uh and then the second thing tripods uh and then the second thing tripods unless you're doing a really like unless you're doing a really like unless you're doing a really like stylistic type of shot like long stylistic type of shot like long stylistic type of shot like long exposure yeah a long exposure outside of exposure yeah a long exposure outside of exposure yeah a long exposure outside of the church building like but but but the church building like but but but the church building like but but but then you're just bringing extra gear um then you're just bringing extra gear um then you're just bringing extra gear um the only other reason would be maybe the only other reason would be maybe the only other reason would be maybe yeah like cuz you need to like let in a yeah like cuz you need to like let in a yeah like cuz you need to like let in a ton of light but at that point you're ton of light but at that point you're ton of light but at that point you're just going to get such crazy shutters just going to get such crazy shutters just going to get such crazy shutters just leave the tripod at running gun is just leave the tripod at running gun is just leave the tripod at running gun is the way to go for a shoot like this so the way to go for a shoot like this so the way to go for a shoot like this so what do you want to bring there are the what do you want to bring there are the what do you want to bring there are the obvious the obvious things you know make obvious the obvious things you know make obvious the obvious things you know make sure you have an SD card spare battery sure you have an SD card spare battery sure you have an SD card spare battery but like specific long lenses are always but like specific long lenses are always but like specific long lenses are always always going to be your best friend always going to be your best friend always going to be your best friend during a church photo shoot so you can during a church photo shoot so you can during a church photo shoot so you can capture interactions and sacred moments capture interactions and sacred moments capture interactions and sacred moments from afar what's great about a long lens from afar what's great about a long lens from afar what's great about a long lens is that you can stand 20 30 50 ft away is that you can stand 20 30 50 ft away is that you can stand 20 30 50 ft away from what's Happening and the final from what's Happening and the final from what's Happening and the final photo and frame and composition can feel photo and frame and composition can feel photo and frame and composition can feel like it's up close and it's intimate and like it's up close and it's intimate and like it's up close and it's intimate and you get that organic moment right that's you get that organic moment right that's you get that organic moment right that's that operative term but in person you're that operative term but in person you're that operative term but in person you're not right up in somebody's Grill next not right up in somebody's Grill next not right up in somebody's Grill next fast lenses and this is to deal with the fast lenses and this is to deal with the fast lenses and this is to deal with the low lighting of some church sanctuaries low lighting of some church sanctuaries low lighting of some church sanctuaries frankly almost all Church sanctuaries frankly almost all Church sanctuaries

frankly almost all Church sanctuaries and buildings are going to struggle with and buildings are going to struggle with and buildings are going to struggle with Lighting in some respect you know you Lighting in some respect you know you Lighting in some respect you know you might just be filing filming kids kids might just be filing filming kids kids might just be filing filming kids kids ministry taking some shots of kids ministry taking some shots of kids ministry taking some shots of kids ministry and they've got like the ministry and they've got like the ministry and they've got like the overhead fluoresent lighting and it's overhead fluoresent lighting and it's overhead fluoresent lighting and it's just like real rough and you're like I just like real rough and you're like I just like real rough and you're like I man I I'm barely getting enough light man I I'm barely getting enough light man I I'm barely getting enough light here fast lenses so when we say fast here fast lenses so when we say fast here fast lenses so when we say fast lenses you know an aperture of 2.8 or lenses you know an aperture of 2.8 or lenses you know an aperture of 2.8 or lower greater however you want to you lower greater however you want to you lower greater however you want to you know quantify that you know if you're know quantify that you know if you're know quantify that you know if you're shooting with a full frame camera shooting with a full frame camera shooting with a full frame camera obviously you know 2.8 is going to be obviously you know 2.8 is going to be obviously you know 2.8 is going to be great if you're on you know an apsc um great if you're on you know an apsc um great if you're on you know an apsc um maybe 2.0 1.8 yeah right like that might maybe 2.0 1.8 yeah right like that might maybe 2.0 1.8 yeah right like that might be uh something that you want to look be uh something that you want to look be uh something that you want to look into what's great though about these new into what's great though about these new into what's great though about these new cameras also is that they are cameras also is that they are cameras also is that they are tremendously skilled in low light tremendously skilled in low light tremendously skilled in low light conditions especially if you're shooting conditions especially if you're shooting conditions especially if you're shooting with a Sony which right now is our with a Sony which right now is our with a Sony which right now is our preferred camera manufacturer and has preferred camera manufacturer and has preferred camera manufacturer and has been for many years you know you can been for many years you know you can been for many years you know you can just dial up that ISO to something crazy just dial up that ISO to something crazy just dial up that ISO to something crazy like you know 6,400 or you know 12,800 like you know 6,400 or you know 12,800 like you know 6,400 or you know 12,800 before it switches over to like um the before it switches over to like um the before it switches over to like um the second ISO and now you can like second ISO and now you can like second ISO and now you can like basically see in the dark so there are basically see in the dark so there are basically see in the dark so there are more ways to get around this you also more ways to get around this you also more ways to get around this you also have intelligent D noise powered by AI have intelligent D noise powered by AI have intelligent D noise powered by AI in platforms like Lightroom you know you in platforms like Lightroom you know you in platforms like Lightroom you know you you've done a bunch of church photo you've done a bunch of church photo you've done a bunch of church photo shoots not quite 173 over eight weeks shoots not quite 173 over eight weeks shoots not quite 173 over eight weeks all around the world you have been all around the world you have been all around the world you have been deployed uh anything else that you'd say deployed uh anything else that you'd say deployed uh anything else that you'd say do or do not bring I mean in my kit I do or do not bring I mean in my kit I do or do not bring I mean in my kit I shoot a lot with prime lenses and so if shoot a lot with prime lenses and so if shoot a lot with prime lenses and so if that's you if that's like your style of that's you if that's like your style of that's you if that's like your style of Photography you're going to want to Photography you're going to want to Photography you're going to want to bring a variety of lenses too so that bring a variety of lenses too so that bring a variety of lenses too so that you have some some variety in the shots you have some some variety in the shots you have some some variety in the shots that you you that you you that you you end and all these things we're talking end and all these things we're talking end and all these things we're talking what to bring we're going to talk about what to bring we're going to talk about what to bring we're going to talk about etiquette a little bit later but I'm etiquette a little bit later but I'm etiquette a little bit later but I'm noticing as we're talking about this the

noticing as we're talking about this the noticing as we're talking about this the things that we're recommending bringing things that we're recommending bringing things that we're recommending bringing and the things we're recommending and the things we're recommending and the things we're recommending leaving at home like there are two leaving at home like there are two leaving at home like there are two elements to there's it's a double edged elements to there's it's a double edged elements to there's it's a double edged sword or a two-sided coin to being a sword or a two-sided coin to being a sword or a two-sided coin to being a successful Church photo shoot one of successful Church photo shoot one of successful Church photo shoot one of course is the deliverable these are course is the deliverable these are course is the deliverable these are great photos but in church the other great photos but in church the other great photos but in church the other side of it being successful is that you side of it being successful is that you side of it being successful is that you don't interrupt the Sacred Space and so don't interrupt the Sacred Space and so don't interrupt the Sacred Space and so a lot of these things here contribute to a lot of these things here contribute to a lot of these things here contribute to that so it's like right leaving the that so it's like right leaving the that so it's like right leaving the studio lights at home we don't need studio lights at home we don't need studio lights at home we don't need those in the in the worship space uh the those in the in the worship space uh the those in the in the worship space uh the tripod leave it at home so that you can tripod leave it at home so that you can tripod leave it at home so that you can be less intrusive same with the long be less intrusive same with the long be less intrusive same with the long lens that lets you get closer to uh a lens that lets you get closer to uh a lens that lets you get closer to uh a sacred private moment without sacred private moment without sacred private moment without interfering with it and so like I said interfering with it and so like I said interfering with it and so like I said we'll talk about the specifics of we'll talk about the specifics of we'll talk about the specifics of etiquette later on but even with the etiquette later on but even with the etiquette later on but even with the gear this is being mindful the choices gear this is being mindful the choices gear this is being mindful the choices we're making here recommending folks to we're making here recommending folks to we're making here recommending folks to make are being mindful of how to shoot make are being mindful of how to shoot make are being mindful of how to shoot specifically in a church and so the the specifically in a church and so the the specifically in a church and so the the the the fast lenses of course because a the the fast lenses of course because a the the fast lenses of course because a lot of church worship spaces sanctuaries lot of church worship spaces sanctuaries lot of church worship spaces sanctuaries now especially in the west are like low now especially in the west are like low now especially in the west are like low light environments so you're going to light environments so you're going to light environments so you're going to need uh as much light as possible but need uh as much light as possible but need uh as much light as possible but these other things really do contribute these other things really do contribute these other things really do contribute to kind of pulling off that fly to kind of pulling off that fly to kind of pulling off that fly on-the-wall um posture when you're on-the-wall um posture when you're on-the-wall um posture when you're shooting in a church space which you shooting in a church space which you shooting in a church space which you don't always have to be as mindful of in don't always have to be as mindful of in don't always have to be as mindful of in other spaces yeah we also understand other spaces yeah we also understand other spaces yeah we also understand that different churches have different that different churches have different that different churches have different preferences for like what they capture preferences for like what they capture preferences for like what they capture and do not capture like if you're and do not capture like if you're and do not capture like if you're listening you're like ah I would never listening you're like ah I would never listening you're like ah I would never capture a sacred moment of someone capture a sacred moment of someone capture a sacred moment of someone raising their hands or Like a Prayer raising their hands or Like a Prayer raising their hands or Like a Prayer moment like we we just don't do that moment like we we just don't do that moment like we we just don't do that type of thing like hey more power type of thing like hey more power type of thing like hey more power the lens is as use foring people are the lens is as use foring people are the lens is as use foring people are being greeted at the FR door the church being greeted at the FR door the church being greeted at the FR door the church walk like you know greeter shaking walk like you know greeter shaking walk like you know greeter shaking withone coming in their family you're

withone coming in their family you're withone coming in their family you're right up there with a 16 you know Mill right up there with a 16 you know Mill right up there with a 16 you know Mill lens kind of strange but you've got like lens kind of strange but you've got like lens kind of strange but you've got like you know an 85 or like a 200 and you're you know an 85 or like a 200 and you're you know an 85 or like a 200 and you're like dialed into 150 Ms from far away like dialed into 150 Ms from far away like dialed into 150 Ms from far away like great perfect yeah and that helps like great perfect yeah and that helps like great perfect yeah and that helps you capture those we've talked about it you capture those we've talked about it you capture those we've talked about it those organic sometimes candid moments those organic sometimes candid moments those organic sometimes candid moments that you can get from a distance very ni that you can get from a distance very ni that you can get from a distance very ni yeah that you can't get from up close yeah that you can't get from up close yeah that you can't get from up close when you know you're interrupting a a when you know you're interrupting a a when you know you're interrupting a a real life event all right next section real life event all right next section real life event all right next section the specific shot list yeah so like to the specific shot list yeah so like to the specific shot list yeah so like to break this down into the key moments to break this down into the key moments to break this down into the key moments to capture before during and after service capture before during and after service capture before during and after service if you're planning your Church's photo if you're planning your Church's photo if you're planning your Church's photo shoot think of it in those three chunks shoot think of it in those three chunks shoot think of it in those three chunks there's before service there's during there's before service there's during there's before service there's during service and there's after service and service and there's after service and service and there's after service and we'll get into like specific we'll get into like specific we'll get into like specific compositions and framing here in a compositions and framing here in a compositions and framing here in a moment but when you're planning your moment but when you're planning your moment but when you're planning your morning you're planning your service morning you're planning your service morning you're planning your service it's great to think about it in those it's great to think about it in those it's great to think about it in those three chunks so before service this is three chunks so before service this is three chunks so before service this is taking photos of the parking lot as taking photos of the parking lot as taking photos of the parking lot as people arrive greeters at the front door people arrive greeters at the front door people arrive greeters at the front door welcoming people uh people in the foyer welcoming people uh people in the foyer welcoming people uh people in the foyer or the lobby and then people grabbing a or the lobby and then people grabbing a or the lobby and then people grabbing a coffee so there's a lot of really great coffee so there's a lot of really great coffee so there's a lot of really great kinetic energy as people are mingling kinetic energy as people are mingling kinetic energy as people are mingling and interacting and a lot of that can be and interacting and a lot of that can be and interacting and a lot of that can be accomplished before service I like to do accomplished before service I like to do accomplished before service I like to do that because then I can really focus on that because then I can really focus on that because then I can really focus on what's Happening uh during service and I what's Happening uh during service and I what's Happening uh during service and I don't feel like oh I missed a bunch so don't feel like oh I missed a bunch so don't feel like oh I missed a bunch so what you're saying is I can't arrive at what you're saying is I can't arrive at what you're saying is I can't arrive at 10:29 for a service that starts at 11:30 10:29 for a service that starts at 11:30 10:29 for a service that starts at 11:30 I think that's perfectly appropriate I think that's perfectly appropriate I think that's perfectly appropriate perfectly appropriate all right then you perfectly appropriate all right then you perfectly appropriate all right then you have your worship service so capturing have your worship service so capturing have your worship service so capturing close-ups of the music and worship team close-ups of the music and worship team close-ups of the music and worship team Team U music and worship team from the Team U music and worship team from the Team U music and worship team from the back of the room congregation worshiping back of the room congregation worshiping back of the room congregation worshiping up close congregation worshiping in a up close congregation worshiping in a up close congregation worshiping in a wide shot uh the MC spot or wide shot uh the MC spot or wide shot uh the MC spot or announcements preacher walking on stage

announcements preacher walking on stage announcements preacher walking on stage preacher preaching altar call prayer preacher preaching altar call prayer preacher preaching altar call prayer obviously those are going to be covered obviously those are going to be covered obviously those are going to be covered and then finally after service capturing and then finally after service capturing and then finally after service capturing photos of people at the connection Booth photos of people at the connection Booth photos of people at the connection Booth people getting prayed for people waving people getting prayed for people waving people getting prayed for people waving goodbye depending on your Church's goodbye depending on your Church's goodbye depending on your Church's culture sometimes the lobby before culture sometimes the lobby before culture sometimes the lobby before service service service is listen listen listen that's that's is listen listen listen that's that's is listen listen listen that's that's that's that's how it goes sometimes and that's that's how it goes sometimes and that's that's how it goes sometimes and so the before stuff maybe you focus more so the before stuff maybe you focus more so the before stuff maybe you focus more on parking lot because you don't need on parking lot because you don't need on parking lot because you don't need like a really full parking lot to get like a really full parking lot to get like a really full parking lot to get that you focus on the greeters because that you focus on the greeters because that you focus on the greeters because you don't get greeters after service but you don't get greeters after service but you don't get greeters after service but all the lobby you really focus on after all the lobby you really focus on after all the lobby you really focus on after service for that um maybe that's the way service for that um maybe that's the way service for that um maybe that's the way to go M all right specific uh items and to go M all right specific uh items and to go M all right specific uh items and these are kind of just I seven checklist these are kind of just I seven checklist these are kind of just I seven checklist items so authentic moments of worship items so authentic moments of worship items so authentic moments of worship eyes closed hands raised prayer band on eyes closed hands raised prayer band on eyes closed hands raised prayer band on stage it's number one number two stage it's number one number two stage it's number one number two authentic moments of human interaction authentic moments of human interaction authentic moments of human interaction uh folks talking and smiling uh folks talking and smiling uh folks talking and smiling conversations Etc number three authentic conversations Etc number three authentic conversations Etc number three authentic moments of people moving around the moments of people moving around the moments of people moving around the church so this is entering the building church so this is entering the building church so this is entering the building entering the sanctuary mingling in the entering the sanctuary mingling in the entering the sanctuary mingling in the lobby the flow of people brushing lobby the flow of people brushing lobby the flow of people brushing shoulders with each other this all the shoulders with each other this all the shoulders with each other this all the candid moments all the organic moments candid moments all the organic moments candid moments all the organic moments are happening here number four the are happening here number four the are happening here number four the pastor preaching people listening number pastor preaching people listening number pastor preaching people listening number five exterior and establishing shots of five exterior and establishing shots of five exterior and establishing shots of the building and parking lot do need a the building and parking lot do need a the building and parking lot do need a few on a recent episode we talked about few on a recent episode we talked about few on a recent episode we talked about Google Business profiles and how Google Business profiles and how Google Business profiles and how specifically for the photos that you specifically for the photos that you specifically for the photos that you upload to your Google business profile upload to your Google business profile upload to your Google business profile you need those exterior shots so you you need those exterior shots so you you need those exterior shots so you want to make sure that you get those want to make sure that you get those want to make sure that you get those number six details so a church pew cup number six details so a church pew cup number six details so a church pew cup of coffee stack of bulletins I always of coffee stack of bulletins I always of coffee stack of bulletins I always find these tremendously useful for find these tremendously useful for find these tremendously useful for filler on Church website filler on filler on Church website filler on filler on Church website filler on social media the nice thing is like yeah social media the nice thing is like yeah social media the nice thing is like yeah I could download a stock photo of a Pew

I could download a stock photo of a Pew I could download a stock photo of a Pew or a bulletin or you know a communion or a bulletin or you know a communion or a bulletin or you know a communion cup or whatever might be light entering cup or whatever might be light entering cup or whatever might be light entering through a window anywhere but if you through a window anywhere but if you through a window anywhere but if you capture it in your own church it's going capture it in your own church it's going capture it in your own church it's going to match all the other photos to match all the other photos to match all the other photos aesthetically right and then also it aesthetically right and then also it aesthetically right and then also it will be of your church which is of will be of your church which is of will be of your church which is of course good and then this one I feel course good and then this one I feel course good and then this one I feel like sometimes people miss so sometimes like sometimes people miss so sometimes like sometimes people miss so sometimes they overlook totally a mix of portrait they overlook totally a mix of portrait they overlook totally a mix of portrait and landscape orientations what's your and landscape orientations what's your and landscape orientations what's your preference uh like like when you're preference uh like like when you're preference uh like like when you're shooting not mindlessly shooting you're shooting not mindlessly shooting you're shooting not mindlessly shooting you're just like capturing something what's just like capturing something what's just like capturing something what's your orientation oh with a camera yep your orientation oh with a camera yep your orientation oh with a camera yep yeah it's got to be it's got to be yeah it's got to be it's got to be yeah it's got to be it's got to be landscape because really because I'm landscape because really because I'm landscape because really because I'm from video right and so like this is from video right and so like this is from video right and so like this is what I mean like I I I my brain is what I mean like I I I my brain is what I mean like I I I my brain is broken because I'm like oh look at this broken because I'm like oh look at this broken because I'm like oh look at this perfectly composed frame because my I've perfectly composed frame because my I've perfectly composed frame because my I've been video pilled in my brain but been video pilled in my brain but been video pilled in my brain but obviously I've found not maybe not obviously I've found not maybe not obviously I've found not maybe not obviously what I should say is I have obviously what I should say is I have obviously what I should say is I have found the portraits to be more useful in found the portraits to be more useful in found the portraits to be more useful in building Church websites lately um that building Church websites lately um that building Church websites lately um that being said in the hero section I do being said in the hero section I do being said in the hero section I do always want that kind of you need a always want that kind of you need a always want that kind of you need a landscape so that's why you're saying landscape so that's why you're saying landscape so that's why you're saying you need a you need a good mix of both you need a you need a good mix of both you need a you need a good mix of both um and that's it's so important that um and that's it's so important that um and that's it's so important that we're mentioning that here because it's we're mentioning that here because it's we're mentioning that here because it's something to easily get overlooked and I something to easily get overlooked and I something to easily get overlooked and I think as photographers I think we all think as photographers I think we all think as photographers I think we all have kind of a subconscious default to have kind of a subconscious default to have kind of a subconscious default to like a way we prefer to shoot for me like a way we prefer to shoot for me like a way we prefer to shoot for me it's portrait I think for me that's a it's portrait I think for me that's a it's portrait I think for me that's a little bit informed that like I have on little bit informed that like I have on little bit informed that like I have on my 5D markv I have the battery grip my 5D markv I have the battery grip my 5D markv I have the battery grip extension that has another shutter extension that has another shutter extension that has another shutter release on it so when I switch to release on it so when I switch to release on it so when I switch to Portrait I'm not reaching over top of Portrait I'm not reaching over top of Portrait I'm not reaching over top of the camera it's in the same spot so it's the camera it's in the same spot so it's the camera it's in the same spot so it's super comfy for me to shoot that way uh super comfy for me to shoot that way uh super comfy for me to shoot that way uh but we do all have that that unconscious but we do all have that that unconscious but we do all have that that unconscious bias and it's important to remember that

bias and it's important to remember that bias and it's important to remember that we're delivering content for churches we're delivering content for churches we're delivering content for churches that needs to be multi-purpose and so that needs to be multi-purpose and so that needs to be multi-purpose and so yeah for social the portrait photos are yeah for social the portrait photos are yeah for social the portrait photos are really useful but for hero section on a really useful but for hero section on a really useful but for hero section on a website we need something that's website we need something that's website we need something that's landscape um and so just just keeping landscape um and so just just keeping landscape um and so just just keeping this in the back of your mind saying it this in the back of your mind saying it this in the back of your mind saying it to yourself Whispering it to yourself as to yourself Whispering it to yourself as to yourself Whispering it to yourself as you walk in is really going to be you walk in is really going to be you walk in is really going to be helpful to deliver um a wide enough helpful to deliver um a wide enough helpful to deliver um a wide enough array or variety of shots that are going array or variety of shots that are going array or variety of shots that are going to be useful across all the different to be useful across all the different to be useful across all the different uses that the church is expecting to use uses that the church is expecting to use uses that the church is expecting to use these photos for yeah and speaking of these photos for yeah and speaking of these photos for yeah and speaking of being a noninvasive presence you know being a noninvasive presence you know being a noninvasive presence you know maybe shooting with a camera that's not maybe shooting with a camera that's not maybe shooting with a camera that's not the size of a briefcase would be ideal the size of a briefcase would be ideal the size of a briefcase would be ideal listen I will hold on to my mirrored listen I will hold on to my mirrored listen I will hold on to my mirrored camera for as long as I can yeah okay so camera for as long as I can yeah okay so camera for as long as I can yeah okay so there's another thing worth mentioning there's another thing worth mentioning there's another thing worth mentioning here it's also part of the reason that I here it's also part of the reason that I here it's also part of the reason that I don't really shoot photos anymore is cuz don't really shoot photos anymore is cuz don't really shoot photos anymore is cuz my camera is so large I like I can't my camera is so large I like I can't my camera is so large I like I can't reasonably travel with it you check the reasonably travel with it you check the reasonably travel with it you check the bag EXA just you know oversized so um bag EXA just you know oversized so um bag EXA just you know oversized so um there's a there's a rule in video I've there's a there's a rule in video I've there's a there's a rule in video I've I've heard and I like uh the rule of I've heard and I like uh the rule of I've heard and I like uh the rule of three and the idea is when you're three and the idea is when you're three and the idea is when you're filming b-roll and you have a certain filming b-roll and you have a certain filming b-roll and you have a certain subject that you want to capture capture subject that you want to capture capture subject that you want to capture capture it three different ways so like even an it three different ways so like even an it three different ways so like even an exterior shot of the building okay I exterior shot of the building okay I exterior shot of the building okay I want to capture it landscape I want to want to capture it landscape I want to want to capture it landscape I want to capture it um portrait and then maybe capture it um portrait and then maybe capture it um portrait and then maybe I'm going to use a different lens and I'm going to use a different lens and I'm going to use a different lens and the best photographers that we've worked the best photographers that we've worked the best photographers that we've worked with do a very good job of providing with do a very good job of providing with do a very good job of providing similar compositions in a variety of similar compositions in a variety of similar compositions in a variety of different frames so like there'll be different frames so like there'll be different frames so like there'll be someone raising their hand someone raising their hand someone raising their hand um and from from behind is like where um and from from behind is like where um and from from behind is like where the photo taken and they'll have one the photo taken and they'll have one the photo taken and they'll have one that's like really tight portrait that's like really tight portrait that's like really tight portrait they'll have one that's like landscape they'll have one that's like landscape they'll have one that's like landscape and they'll have one where I can tell and they'll have one where I can tell and they'll have one where I can tell they changed the lens because the the they changed the lens because the the they changed the lens because the the depth of the shot is different and the depth of the shot is different and the depth of the shot is different and the compression has changed and so that's a

compression has changed and so that's a compression has changed and so that's a really great way of increasing the really great way of increasing the really great way of increasing the number of photos that you take away from number of photos that you take away from number of photos that you take away from a Sunday morning shoot that are useful a Sunday morning shoot that are useful a Sunday morning shoot that are useful what's also true is we've all been there what's also true is we've all been there what's also true is we've all been there where you're like ah I have this shot I where you're like ah I have this shot I where you're like ah I have this shot I I want to use it but like I need it in I want to use it but like I need it in I want to use it but like I need it in this orientation or I need it with a bit this orientation or I need it with a bit this orientation or I need it with a bit more head space or I need it in a more head space or I need it in a more head space or I need it in a different angle and that's why the rule different angle and that's why the rule different angle and that's why the rule three if you if you focus on that in the three if you if you focus on that in the three if you if you focus on that in the moment then you'll be set when I moment then you'll be set when I moment then you'll be set when I mentioned earlier that I I prefer to mentioned earlier that I I prefer to mentioned earlier that I I prefer to shoot with prime lenses but this shoot with prime lenses but this shoot with prime lenses but this probably accentuates the point why some probably accentuates the point why some probably accentuates the point why some zoom lenses are going to be really zoom lenses are going to be really zoom lenses are going to be really useful for you in a shoot like this now useful for you in a shoot like this now useful for you in a shoot like this now it can be trickier to get zoom lens fast it can be trickier to get zoom lens fast it can be trickier to get zoom lens fast zoom lenses compared to prime lenses zoom lenses compared to prime lenses zoom lenses compared to prime lenses fast zoom lenses that are affordable fast zoom lenses that are affordable fast zoom lenses that are affordable like I think for most going with like I think for most going with like I think for most going with multiple primes yes you lose the multiple primes yes you lose the multiple primes yes you lose the convenience but like it's probably more convenience but like it's probably more convenience but like it's probably more accessible yeah but if you have the zoom accessible yeah but if you have the zoom accessible yeah but if you have the zoom lens in the bag like that's why a 16 to lens in the bag like that's why a 16 to lens in the bag like that's why a 16 to 35 or 24 to 72.8 or the 70 to 200 2.8 24 35 or 24 to 72.8 or the 70 to 200 2.8 24 35 or 24 to 72.8 or the 70 to 200 2.8 24 to 105 oo I've never had that one yeah to 105 oo I've never had that one yeah to 105 oo I've never had that one yeah it's an F4 but like on a full frame with it's an F4 but like on a full frame with it's an F4 but like on a full frame with Sony you get away with it and that's Sony you get away with it and that's Sony you get away with it and that's like that's where you get if you're like that's where you get if you're like that's where you get if you're capturing a moment that's happening capturing a moment that's happening capturing a moment that's happening maybe a worship moment maybe like you maybe a worship moment maybe like you maybe a worship moment maybe like you said from from behind someone raising said from from behind someone raising said from from behind someone raising their hands and it's just happening for their hands and it's just happening for their hands and it's just happening for a moment you can get those three a moment you can get those three a moment you can get those three compositions with the zoom lens where it compositions with the zoom lens where it compositions with the zoom lens where it would be a little more tricky to get would be a little more tricky to get would be a little more tricky to get with uh prime lens absolutely all right with uh prime lens absolutely all right with uh prime lens absolutely all right final section rules and etiquette number final section rules and etiquette number final section rules and etiquette number number one wear dark colors you never number one wear dark colors you never number one wear dark colors you never want to be an obtrusive presence dark want to be an obtrusive presence dark want to be an obtrusive presence dark shirts and pants are especially useful shirts and pants are especially useful shirts and pants are especially useful if your church has a darker Sanctuary if your church has a darker Sanctuary if your church has a darker Sanctuary you know don't forget the shoes Maybe you know don't forget the shoes Maybe you know don't forget the shoes Maybe not maybe it's not the time to flex the not maybe it's not the time to flex the not maybe it's not the time to flex the new Jordans leave the white forces at new Jordans leave the white forces at new Jordans leave the white forces at home honestly especially because

home honestly especially because home honestly especially because sometimes depending on the lights like sometimes depending on the lights like sometimes depending on the lights like you can like maybe there's like a black you can like maybe there's like a black you can like maybe there's like a black light or something and they get you know light or something and they get you know light or something and they get you know like one of those types yeah uh rule like one of those types yeah uh rule like one of those types yeah uh rule number two shoot with a long lens we number two shoot with a long lens we number two shoot with a long lens we already captured this we talked about already captured this we talked about already captured this we talked about that number three Burst Mode okay so that number three Burst Mode okay so that number three Burst Mode okay so when people are talking in the lobby uh when people are talking in the lobby uh when people are talking in the lobby uh you might nail focus and framing but you might nail focus and framing but you might nail focus and framing but then there's that one person in the then there's that one person in the then there's that one person in the group that has that not so flattering group that has that not so flattering group that has that not so flattering expression on their face uh Burst Mode expression on their face uh Burst Mode expression on their face uh Burst Mode will give you more options fractions of will give you more options fractions of will give you more options fractions of seconds apart to hopefully find that seconds apart to hopefully find that seconds apart to hopefully find that shot where everyone looks their best one shot where everyone looks their best one shot where everyone looks their best one of the things that uh women want of the things that uh women want of the things that uh women want Instagram husbands to know about Instagram husbands to know about Instagram husbands to know about photography is like you need to take 800 photography is like you need to take 800 photography is like you need to take 800 shots to get the one shot and that's shots to get the one shot and that's shots to get the one shot and that's also true of church photography some of also true of church photography some of also true of church photography some of my some of the photographers that I my some of the photographers that I my some of the photographers that I think are the most talented in the think are the most talented in the think are the most talented in the church space I'll ask them like okay how church space I'll ask them like okay how church space I'll ask them like okay how many shots are you like taking and then many shots are you like taking and then many shots are you like taking and then how many are you actually find usable how many are you actually find usable how many are you actually find usable and they're like oh yeah like I'm and they're like oh yeah like I'm and they're like oh yeah like I'm throwing away most of what I shoot and I throwing away most of what I shoot and I throwing away most of what I shoot and I don't know if people understand that if don't know if people understand that if don't know if people understand that if you don't do this type of thing a lot you don't do this type of thing a lot you don't do this type of thing a lot like so much of what you shoot is going like so much of what you shoot is going like so much of what you shoot is going to be junk and so being able when there to be junk and so being able when there to be junk and so being able when there are people like when you're capturing are people like when you're capturing are people like when you're capturing the greeting when you're capturing the the greeting when you're capturing the the greeting when you're capturing the lobby moments the candid moments on lobby moments the candid moments on lobby moments the candid moments on stage just like letting that burst mode stage just like letting that burst mode stage just like letting that burst mode go and that way you come away with go and that way you come away with go and that way you come away with something that's great even if uh 90% of something that's great even if uh 90% of something that's great even if uh 90% of it was not yes kind of insert a bonus it was not yes kind of insert a bonus it was not yes kind of insert a bonus tip here in relation to that some folks tip here in relation to that some folks tip here in relation to that some folks are hesitant to shoot on Burst Mode are hesitant to shoot on Burst Mode are hesitant to shoot on Burst Mode because you come home from a shoot with because you come home from a shoot with because you come home from a shoot with a thousand photos and it's like you get a thousand photos and it's like you get a thousand photos and it's like you get a little bit of anxiety at the scope of a little bit of anxiety at the scope of a little bit of anxiety at the scope of culling those down it's like how do I culling those down it's like how do I culling those down it's like how do I get 200 great photos out of a thousand get 200 great photos out of a thousand get 200 great photos out of a thousand photos it just seems like a lot of work photos it just seems like a lot of work photos it just seems like a lot of work sure from my wedding photographer days I

sure from my wedding photographer days I sure from my wedding photographer days I have a two-step calling process that I have a two-step calling process that I have a two-step calling process that I learned from someone else that I think learned from someone else that I think learned from someone else that I think would be really helpful to hear which is would be really helpful to hear which is would be really helpful to hear which is I go through in Lightroom I I I hit L I go through in Lightroom I I I hit L I go through in Lightroom I I I hit L twice I think I get rid of all the um I twice I think I get rid of all the um I twice I think I get rid of all the um I forget what the mode is called but I get forget what the mode is called but I get forget what the mode is called but I get rid of all the the rid of all the the rid of all the the the dials and the the slider so it's the dials and the the slider so it's the dials and the the slider so it's just the photos and I go through with my just the photos and I go through with my just the photos and I go through with my cursor and I'm using the letter P to cursor and I'm using the letter P to cursor and I'm using the letter P to select um picks so these are photos that select um picks so these are photos that select um picks so these are photos that I just like are good enough for a first I just like are good enough for a first I just like are good enough for a first pass not P I see but like I pick you pass not P I see but like I pick you pass not P I see but like I pick you right I will filter those out so now I right I will filter those out so now I right I will filter those out so now I have just the pick so let's say if I have just the pick so let's say if I have just the pick so let's say if I shot a th000 let's say I'm down to like shot a th000 let's say I'm down to like shot a th000 let's say I'm down to like 600 or 500 then I do the same thing I go 600 or 500 then I do the same thing I go 600 or 500 then I do the same thing I go back again and I'm I'm looking for back again and I'm I'm looking for back again and I'm I'm looking for selects now so now I have a better pool selects now so now I have a better pool selects now so now I have a better pool of photos to call from and now if I have of photos to call from and now if I have of photos to call from and now if I have three burst photos from the same moment three burst photos from the same moment three burst photos from the same moment that that I picked out of maybe eight that that I picked out of maybe eight that that I picked out of maybe eight now I'm looking for the one or the two now I'm looking for the one or the two now I'm looking for the one or the two and I'm marking those with five stars and I'm marking those with five stars and I'm marking those with five stars and then again I will filter out the and then again I will filter out the and then again I will filter out the five stars out of those picks and now five stars out of those picks and now five stars out of those picks and now all of a sudden I have a group of 200 all of a sudden I have a group of 200 all of a sudden I have a group of 200 300 photos that I have called down and 300 photos that I have called down and 300 photos that I have called down and now I'll just edit those ones and so now I'll just edit those ones and so now I'll just edit those ones and so that's my two-step calling process leave that's my two-step calling process leave that's my two-step calling process leave the 99 people think about it that's the 99 people think about it that's the 99 people think about it that's right all right next up never ask for right all right next up never ask for right all right next up never ask for poses so a group of people are chatting poses so a group of people are chatting poses so a group of people are chatting in the lobby you approach them and they in the lobby you approach them and they in the lobby you approach them and they and you say like oh you know just taking and you say like oh you know just taking and you say like oh you know just taking a few photos act natural at that point a few photos act natural at that point a few photos act natural at that point of course nobody is going to act natural of course nobody is going to act natural of course nobody is going to act natural and this is something that you know and this is something that you know and this is something that you know again like until you've done it and again like until you've done it and again like until you've done it and realized that that wasn't effective it realized that that wasn't effective it realized that that wasn't effective it might make sense like you want people to might make sense like you want people to might make sense like you want people to be aware of you you know maybe if be aware of you you know maybe if be aware of you you know maybe if they're if they see me taking photos

they're if they see me taking photos they're if they see me taking photos I'll be self-conscious but if like I I I'll be self-conscious but if like I I I'll be self-conscious but if like I I acknowledge it then they won't be I can acknowledge it then they won't be I can acknowledge it then they won't be I can see the Merit behind the idea the see the Merit behind the idea the see the Merit behind the idea the thinking there but what we found is uh thinking there but what we found is uh thinking there but what we found is uh if you acknowledge it it just becomes if you acknowledge it it just becomes if you acknowledge it it just becomes uncomfortable so just don't ask for uncomfortable so just don't ask for uncomfortable so just don't ask for poses um unless of course you know had poses um unless of course you know had poses um unless of course you know had one person push back no no every time I one person push back no no every time I one person push back no no every time I ask for poses it works um hey I guess ask for poses it works um hey I guess ask for poses it works um hey I guess you know rules are meant to be broken you know rules are meant to be broken you know rules are meant to be broken sure and then finally capture worship sure and then finally capture worship sure and then finally capture worship during practice this is such a hack to during practice this is such a hack to during practice this is such a hack to Pro tip so maybe you're getting the Pro tip so maybe you're getting the Pro tip so maybe you're getting the greeting at the doors uh maybe you are greeting at the doors uh maybe you are greeting at the doors uh maybe you are getting the parking lot and then you're getting the parking lot and then you're getting the parking lot and then you're like ah I'd love to get some worship like ah I'd love to get some worship like ah I'd love to get some worship shots but I need to be a non-intrusive shots but I need to be a non-intrusive shots but I need to be a non-intrusive presence well you don't need to be a presence well you don't need to be a presence well you don't need to be a non-intrusive presence during worship non-intrusive presence during worship non-intrusive presence during worship practice you can get right up and get practice you can get right up and get practice you can get right up and get some really creative angles stuff that some really creative angles stuff that some really creative angles stuff that like if you shot that when people were like if you shot that when people were like if you shot that when people were in the room like this is strange like I in the room like this is strange like I in the room like this is strange like I can see the photographer right up in can see the photographer right up in can see the photographer right up in that person's business you don't need to that person's business you don't need to that person's business you don't need to use a long lens you know get to 16 go use a long lens you know get to 16 go use a long lens you know get to 16 go really wide and shoot like up really really wide and shoot like up really really wide and shoot like up really wide and shoot down and get some really wide and shoot down and get some really wide and shoot down and get some really creative angles during worship practice creative angles during worship practice creative angles during worship practice also make use of the three galleries also make use of the three galleries also make use of the three galleries that we have Linked In the YouTube that we have Linked In the YouTube that we have Linked In the YouTube description for this episode or in the description for this episode or in the description for this episode or in the podcast description for this episode podcast description for this episode podcast description for this episode three galleries from actual Church photo three galleries from actual Church photo three galleries from actual Church photo shoots that we've done it's a lot to shoots that we've done it's a lot to shoots that we've done it's a lot to talk about this and again remember that talk about this and again remember that talk about this and again remember that underpinning philosophy organic with an underpinning philosophy organic with an underpinning philosophy organic with an emphasis on the people if you want to emphasis on the people if you want to emphasis on the people if you want to see what an actual Church photo shoot see what an actual Church photo shoot see what an actual Church photo shoot looks like and get framing ideas get looks like and get framing ideas get looks like and get framing ideas get composition ideas this is another Pro composition ideas this is another Pro composition ideas this is another Pro tip I always have an album on my camera tip I always have an album on my camera tip I always have an album on my camera in my phone for how I want to compose so in my phone for how I want to compose so in my phone for how I want to compose so I'll just look through what people have I'll just look through what people have I'll just look through what people have done oh that's a interesting composition done oh that's a interesting composition done oh that's a interesting composition that's a fun Framing and then I have that's a fun Framing and then I have that's a fun Framing and then I have those as examples for reference images

those as examples for reference images those as examples for reference images and then in the moment I can pull okay and then in the moment I can pull okay and then in the moment I can pull okay uh what else did oh I haven't caught one uh what else did oh I haven't caught one uh what else did oh I haven't caught one of those yet and then I can capture that of those yet and then I can capture that of those yet and then I can capture that where the composition you know you're where the composition you know you're where the composition you know you're not copying the photo but like the not copying the photo but like the not copying the photo but like the composition was like oh this foreground composition was like oh this foreground composition was like oh this foreground this background this type of framing this background this type of framing this background this type of framing with this type of lens and this type of with this type of lens and this type of with this type of lens and this type of compression always a great tip so go compression always a great tip so go compression always a great tip so go through those galleries any final notes through those galleries any final notes through those galleries any final notes father photo shoots well listen I'll father photo shoots well listen I'll father photo shoots well listen I'll just tell you I looked through all these just tell you I looked through all these just tell you I looked through all these galleries again uh just prepping for galleries again uh just prepping for galleries again uh just prepping for this podcast i' had seen all these this podcast i' had seen all these this podcast i' had seen all these photos before but I just wanted to swipe photos before but I just wanted to swipe photos before but I just wanted to swipe through them again and I felt I'm sure through them again and I felt I'm sure through them again and I felt I'm sure you know this feeling like that little you know this feeling like that little you know this feeling like that little flame of creative inspiration in my flame of creative inspiration in my flame of creative inspiration in my chest like I haven't I haven't been chest like I haven't I haven't been chest like I haven't I haven't been creative with the camera in quite some creative with the camera in quite some creative with the camera in quite some time and I was looking at these photos time and I was looking at these photos time and I was looking at these photos they're so beautiful I was like oh I can they're so beautiful I was like oh I can they're so beautiful I was like oh I can I can do this and so that's what I felt I can do this and so that's what I felt I can do this and so that's what I felt looking at these photos and I'd seen looking at these photos and I'd seen looking at these photos and I'd seen them before so please check out those them before so please check out those them before so please check out those galleries they'll be linked and I hope galleries they'll be linked and I hope galleries they'll be linked and I hope you get that little flame of inspiration you get that little flame of inspiration you get that little flame of inspiration too you'll notice that the photographer too you'll notice that the photographer too you'll notice that the photographer for gallery 1 and two I think um for gallery 1 and two I think um for gallery 1 and two I think um definitely went to worship practice definitely went to worship practice definitely went to worship practice because he was definitely using like a because he was definitely using like a because he was definitely using like a 16 mil lens like all up in the the the 16 mil lens like all up in the the the 16 mil lens like all up in the the the worship leader Grill and you can't do worship leader Grill and you can't do worship leader Grill and you can't do that during worship service but the that during worship service but the that during worship service but the photos look so awesome uh so don't photos look so awesome uh so don't photos look so awesome uh so don't hesitate to check those out make use of hesitate to check those out make use of hesitate to check those out make use of those links and thanks as always for those links and thanks as always for those links and thanks as always for your time attention and Trust we will your time attention and Trust we will your time attention and Trust we will talk to you next talk to you next talk to you next Wednesday see like my brain literally Wednesday see like my brain literally Wednesday see like my brain literally cannot think of a single pun right now cannot think of a single pun right now cannot think of a single pun right now like I like like it's like you can't use like I like like it's like you can't use like I like like it's like you can't use Bishop beige been there done that you've Bishop beige been there done that you've Bishop beige been there done that you've been there done that and that was been there done that and that was been there done that and that was already like a last minute like already like a last minute like already like a last minute like oh I believe in oh I believe in oh I believe in me I am fearfully and wonderfully made me I am fearfully and wonderfully made me I am fearfully and wonderfully made don't say a word okay I'm going to come

don't say a word okay I'm going to come don't say a word okay I'm going to come up with it but you have to be silent up with it but you have to be silent up with it but you have to be silent thank