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uh let's Dive Right In questions so uh let's Dive Right In let's get right into it dear Brady thank let's get right into it dear Brady thank let's get right into it dear Brady thank you so much for the work that you are you so much for the work that you are you so much for the work that you are doing I learned so much from your doing I learned so much from your doing I learned so much from your podcast I have a question that perhaps podcast I have a question that perhaps podcast I have a question that perhaps you might consider for a future episode you might consider for a future episode you might consider for a future episode well we're considering it on this well we're considering it on this well we're considering it on this episode it has to do with expectations episode it has to do with expectations episode it has to do with expectations about how much social media can achieve about how much social media can achieve about how much social media can achieve so it occurs to me that people don't go so it occurs to me that people don't go so it occurs to me that people don't go to social media looking for the Deep

to social media looking for the Deep to social media looking for the Deep answers to questions of Faith but they answers to questions of Faith but they answers to questions of Faith but they use social media for light entertainment use social media for light entertainment use social media for light entertainment like cat videos to fill a bit of time like cat videos to fill a bit of time like cat videos to fill a bit of time sometimes YouTube for instructions on sometimes YouTube for instructions on sometimes YouTube for instructions on how to do something are we as churches how to do something are we as churches how to do something are we as churches and Ministries trying to use social and Ministries trying to use social and Ministries trying to use social media in a way that is contrary to how media in a way that is contrary to how media in a way that is contrary to how our customers are wanting to consume our customers are wanting to consume our customers are wanting to consume content also if your goal is to have new content also if your goal is to have new content also if your goal is to have new members join your church or in our case members join your church or in our case members join your church or in our case join a membership where they get access join a membership where they get access join a membership where they get access to online courses and personal mentoring to online courses and personal mentoring to online courses and personal mentoring is a social media campaign really going is a social media campaign really going is a social media campaign really going to achieve those goals or is simply to achieve those goals or is simply to achieve those goals or is simply aware aess that you and your church aware aess that you and your church aware aess that you and your church exist the most we can hope for or exist the most we can hope for or exist the most we can hope for or something like signing up for the email something like signing up for the email something like signing up for the email list am I expecting too much from social list am I expecting too much from social list am I expecting too much from social media so I wanted to push back on the media so I wanted to push back on the media so I wanted to push back on the premise of this question to begin with premise of this question to begin with premise of this question to begin with the question says quote it occurs to me the question says quote it occurs to me the question says quote it occurs to me that people don't go to social media that people don't go to social media that people don't go to social media looking for deep answers to questions of looking for deep answers to questions of looking for deep answers to questions of Faith they use social media for light Faith they use social media for light Faith they use social media for light entertainment like cat videos that's a entertainment like cat videos that's a entertainment like cat videos that's a very like 2015 perspective view of very like 2015 perspective view of very like 2015 perspective view of social media um you know let's consider social media um you know let's consider social media um you know let's consider social's history and and understand how social's history and and understand how social's history and and understand how we got to where we are now it starts as we got to where we are now it starts as we got to where we are now it starts as a way to share photos and life updates a way to share photos and life updates a way to share photos and life updates with your friends and family and back with your friends and family and back with your friends and family and back when I first started doing social media when I first started doing social media when I first started doing social media for churches there was very much like for churches there was very much like for churches there was very much like this cat video retort this is all this this cat video retort this is all this this cat video retort this is all this is good for and it's so funny to think is good for and it's so funny to think is good for and it's so funny to think of a platform like YouTube that started of a platform like YouTube that started of a platform like YouTube that started in 2005 because it really was like just in 2005 because it really was like just in 2005 because it really was like just this place where you'd go to watch funny this place where you'd go to watch funny this place where you'd go to watch funny videos fa videos share that with your videos fa videos share that with your videos fa videos share that with your friends and now we're in a place where friends and now we're in a place where friends and now we're in a place where platforms like YouTube and streaming platforms like YouTube and streaming platforms like YouTube and streaming services like it are bidding for the services like it are bidding for the services like it are bidding for the rights of major Sports companies the the rights of major Sports companies the the rights of major Sports companies the the the biggest sports leagues in the world

the biggest sports leagues in the world the biggest sports leagues in the world are bringing in these streamers because are bringing in these streamers because are bringing in these streamers because they're like traditional what we call they're like traditional what we call they're like traditional what we call linear TV can't pay the bills anymore so linear TV can't pay the bills anymore so linear TV can't pay the bills anymore so what started in 2005 is kind of like what started in 2005 is kind of like what started in 2005 is kind of like this joke to share jokes with your this joke to share jokes with your this joke to share jokes with your friends is now overtaking broadcast friends is now overtaking broadcast friends is now overtaking broadcast media media media so a data point I have here from the so a data point I have here from the so a data point I have here from the global web index it says quote the global web index it says quote the global web index it says quote the percentage of gen Z's online time being percentage of gen Z's online time being percentage of gen Z's online time being spent on social media is at an all-time spent on social media is at an all-time spent on social media is at an all-time high of 41% so what does this mean high of 41% so what does this mean high of 41% so what does this mean of the time j z spends on the internet of the time j z spends on the internet of the time j z spends on the internet more and more of that time is being more and more of that time is being more and more of that time is being spent on social so if you have this like spent on social so if you have this like spent on social so if you have this like pie and there's eight slices as we go pie and there's eight slices as we go pie and there's eight slices as we go forward more of those slices are being forward more of those slices are being forward more of those slices are being consumed by social media why because the consumed by social media why because the consumed by social media why because the scope the breadth of what social media scope the breadth of what social media scope the breadth of what social media is defined as is continuing to expand is defined as is continuing to expand is defined as is continuing to expand yeah it's not just sharing photos of yeah it's not just sharing photos of yeah it's not just sharing photos of your friends um and Life to keep your friends um and Life to keep your friends um and Life to keep everyone in your social sphere up to everyone in your social sphere up to everyone in your social sphere up to date which we still use it for I follow date which we still use it for I follow date which we still use it for I follow Alex on all social platforms cuz I want Alex on all social platforms cuz I want Alex on all social platforms cuz I want to see what up with his family even when to see what up with his family even when to see what up with his family even when we're not broch Church pools that's we're not broch Church pools that's we're not broch Church pools that's right but now social has also stepped in right but now social has also stepped in right but now social has also stepped in and just said look we're kind of just a and just said look we're kind of just a and just said look we're kind of just a synonym for synonym for synonym for entertainment yeah and I I think about entertainment yeah and I I think about entertainment yeah and I I think about like in reading this this question and like in reading this this question and like in reading this this question and and thinking about the statistics that and thinking about the statistics that and thinking about the statistics that we're talking about now don't me I'm we're talking about now don't me I'm we're talking about now don't me I'm just going to take a sip of this virgin just going to take a sip of this virgin just going to take a sip of this virgin mojito and thinking about how you know mojito and thinking about how you know mojito and thinking about how you know when you and I first started using when you and I first started using when you and I first started using YouTube as as teenagers you know YouTube as as teenagers you know YouTube as as teenagers you know predominantly most of our time there was predominantly most of our time there was predominantly most of our time there was spent watching fail videos and and spent watching fail videos and and spent watching fail videos and and useless things but now an adult I'm we useless things but now an adult I'm we useless things but now an adult I'm we you've I don't know if you've coined you've I don't know if you've coined you've I don't know if you've coined this term but YouTube is a sort of

this term but YouTube is a sort of this term but YouTube is a sort of university for sorts like like people university for sorts like like people university for sorts like like people are going to un to YouTube to actually are going to un to YouTube to actually are going to un to YouTube to actually ask like some really deep meaningful ask like some really deep meaningful ask like some really deep meaningful important questions and expect high important questions and expect high important questions and expect high quality answers I bought my son a fish quality answers I bought my son a fish quality answers I bought my son a fish tank a year ago and I grew up with fish tank a year ago and I grew up with fish tank a year ago and I grew up with fish tanks I bought him a fish tank and I tanks I bought him a fish tank and I tanks I bought him a fish tank and I realized oh a lot of the stuff that you realized oh a lot of the stuff that you realized oh a lot of the stuff that you need to do with a fish tank cycling the need to do with a fish tank cycling the need to do with a fish tank cycling the water this that and the other like my water this that and the other like my water this that and the other like my dad was doing a lot of that for me when dad was doing a lot of that for me when dad was doing a lot of that for me when I was a kid so now I'm the dad and I had I was a kid so now I'm the dad and I had I was a kid so now I'm the dad and I had to figure out how to do do this first to figure out how to do do this first to figure out how to do do this first place I went was YouTube University and place I went was YouTube University and place I went was YouTube University and so I'm on the floor in Asher's bedroom so I'm on the floor in Asher's bedroom so I'm on the floor in Asher's bedroom trying to cycle this aquarium and I said trying to cycle this aquarium and I said trying to cycle this aquarium and I said to myself out loud how did my dad do to myself out loud how did my dad do to myself out loud how did my dad do this I had this thought all the time he this I had this thought all the time he this I had this thought all the time he did not have this information and we had did not have this information and we had did not have this information and we had successful fish tanks so I actually successful fish tanks so I actually successful fish tanks so I actually called him I'm like Dad I just set a called him I'm like Dad I just set a called him I'm like Dad I just set a fish tank for my son and I'm really fish tank for my son and I'm really fish tank for my son and I'm really impressed by you cuz you didn't have the impressed by you cuz you didn't have the impressed by you cuz you didn't have the information that I have anyways all of information that I have anyways all of information that I have anyways all of that to say I spent a lot of time on that to say I spent a lot of time on that to say I spent a lot of time on social I'm not part of gen Z I'm an social I'm not part of gen Z I'm an social I'm not part of gen Z I'm an elder Millennial but I do spend a lot of elder Millennial but I do spend a lot of elder Millennial but I do spend a lot of time on social and a lot of it is time on social and a lot of it is time on social and a lot of it is actually interacting with like some of actually interacting with like some of actually interacting with like some of my deepest questions and longings about my deepest questions and longings about my deepest questions and longings about life and meaning and I'm glad you life and meaning and I'm glad you life and meaning and I'm glad you brought up YouTube because YouTube is a brought up YouTube because YouTube is a brought up YouTube because YouTube is a rarity in the social media sphere it's rarity in the social media sphere it's rarity in the social media sphere it's really the only social media platform really the only social media platform really the only social media platform that is like a favorite amongst every that is like a favorite amongst every that is like a favorite amongst every generation whether you are Boomer Gen X generation whether you are Boomer Gen X generation whether you are Boomer Gen X Millennial gen Z and gen Alpha we're all Millennial gen Z and gen Alpha we're all Millennial gen Z and gen Alpha we're all on YouTube and people go to YouTube on YouTube and people go to YouTube on YouTube and people go to YouTube looking for answers to their deepest looking for answers to their deepest looking for answers to their deepest questions questions questions entire uh political perspectives are entire uh political perspectives are entire uh political perspectives are being shaped by YouTube creators that

being shaped by YouTube creators that being shaped by YouTube creators that people watch every day ways that people people watch every day ways that people people watch every day ways that people see the world in respect to Theology and see the world in respect to Theology and see the world in respect to Theology and religion are being shaped by creators on religion are being shaped by creators on religion are being shaped by creators on social media YouTube is social media but social media YouTube is social media but social media YouTube is social media but it's much more broad than that and so we it's much more broad than that and so we it's much more broad than that and so we need to continue to broaden our own need to continue to broaden our own need to continue to broaden our own understanding of what social media is understanding of what social media is understanding of what social media is some more data here according to some more data here according to some more data here according to research by Google by research by Google by research by Google by Google nearly half of young people look Google nearly half of young people look Google nearly half of young people look to Tik Tok or Instagram instead of to Tik Tok or Instagram instead of to Tik Tok or Instagram instead of Google Maps or Google search for answers Google Maps or Google search for answers Google Maps or Google search for answers so social media is entertainment social so social media is entertainment social so social media is entertainment social media is friends and family social graph media is friends and family social graph media is friends and family social graph social media is search this is from social media is search this is from social media is search this is from Google yeah the creators of modern Google yeah the creators of modern Google yeah the creators of modern search social is also becoming a big way search social is also becoming a big way search social is also becoming a big way to shop with Jen zz's top brand to shop with Jen zz's top brand to shop with Jen zz's top brand Discovery tool being ads seen on social Discovery tool being ads seen on social Discovery tool being ads seen on social media that's again from the global media media that's again from the global media media that's again from the global media index so social media is Commerce and index so social media is Commerce and index so social media is Commerce and now to the next part of the question now to the next part of the question now to the next part of the question this person wants to know how to use this person wants to know how to use this person wants to know how to use social to get people connected to online social to get people connected to online social to get people connected to online courses and personal mentoring and if courses and personal mentoring and if courses and personal mentoring and if social can really play a role in that so social can really play a role in that so social can really play a role in that so this hit on a social media rule that this hit on a social media rule that this hit on a social media rule that very few churches understand uh but we very few churches understand uh but we very few churches understand uh but we would all do well to deploy and pay more would all do well to deploy and pay more would all do well to deploy and pay more attention to I call it the first date attention to I call it the first date attention to I call it the first date dilemma the first date dilemma all dilemma the first date dilemma all dilemma the first date dilemma all relationships have stages and you relationships have stages and you relationships have stages and you probably unless you watch a show called probably unless you watch a show called probably unless you watch a show called love is blond we're not proposing to love is blond we're not proposing to love is blond we're not proposing to your Paramore your partner today side un your Paramore your partner today side un your Paramore your partner today side un scene or on the first dat even 11 blind scene or on the first dat even 11 blind scene or on the first dat even 11 blind they're taking a couple of weeks why they're taking a couple of weeks why they're taking a couple of weeks why well not because you didn't essentially well not because you didn't essentially well not because you didn't essentially want eventually want to get there with want eventually want to get there with want eventually want to get there with the right person but because well this the right person but because well this the right person but because well this is just the first day and churches come is just the first day and churches come is just the first day and churches come into social media like these really

into social media like these really into social media like these really thirsty boys that are proposing on the thirsty boys that are proposing on the thirsty boys that are proposing on the first date which again isn't even an first date which again isn't even an first date which again isn't even an analog in real life so it's not even a analog in real life so it's not even a analog in real life so it's not even a great metaphor in this sense but great metaphor in this sense but great metaphor in this sense but churches coming guns of blaz and they're churches coming guns of blaz and they're churches coming guns of blaz and they're like why are they not signing up for the like why are they not signing up for the like why are they not signing up for the most important thing that I have for most important thing that I have for most important thing that I have for them we run a company we sell products them we run a company we sell products them we run a company we sell products go through my Instagram feed my grid and go through my Instagram feed my grid and go through my Instagram feed my grid and look at the carousels and look at the look at the carousels and look at the look at the carousels and look at the reals how often am I saying buy our reals how often am I saying buy our reals how often am I saying buy our website service website service website service by our social media agency for churches by our social media agency for churches by our social media agency for churches social sermons never what you will find social sermons never what you will find social sermons never what you will find is me giving value over and over again is me giving value over and over again is me giving value over and over again and then there will be calls to action and then there will be calls to action and then there will be calls to action to take our relationship to the next to take our relationship to the next to take our relationship to the next level not the end level it's just asking level not the end level it's just asking level not the end level it's just asking for a second date essentially and if for a second date essentially and if for a second date essentially and if you're into that you'll take the next you're into that you'll take the next you're into that you'll take the next step so I'll say hey reply in the step so I'll say hey reply in the step so I'll say hey reply in the comments below with the word example and comments below with the word example and comments below with the word example and I'll send you a link where you can I'll send you a link where you can I'll send you a link where you can download this free resource that I have download this free resource that I have download this free resource that I have and then the way that you download that and then the way that you download that and then the way that you download that free resource is by entering your email free resource is by entering your email free resource is by entering your email address address okay now you're giving address address okay now you're giving address address okay now you're giving me a second date now you're joining the me a second date now you're joining the me a second date now you're joining the email list and then I'm going to keep email list and then I'm going to keep email list and then I'm going to keep sending you newsletters and eventually 6 sending you newsletters and eventually 6 sending you newsletters and eventually 6 months a year however it might be I months a year however it might be I months a year however it might be I might say hey we have this extra good might say hey we have this extra good might say hey we have this extra good promotion for something and now we're promotion for something and now we're promotion for something and now we're taking our relationship to the next taking our relationship to the next taking our relationship to the next level so you have to consider the stages level so you have to consider the stages level so you have to consider the stages of these things but imagine if you were of these things but imagine if you were of these things but imagine if you were the type of person that went up to a the type of person that went up to a the type of person that went up to a girl which doesn't happen in real life girl which doesn't happen in real life girl which doesn't happen in real life anymore but let's remember a time when anymore but let's remember a time when anymore but let's remember a time when you did and you were like hey would you you did and you were like hey would you you did and you were like hey would you like to be my long-term girlfriend and like to be my long-term girlfriend and like to be my long-term girlfriend and they're like uh what's your name yeah they're like uh what's your name yeah they're like uh what's your name yeah and and then you kep doing that and you and and then you kep doing that and you and and then you kep doing that and you kept getting rejected like I don't know kept getting rejected like I don't know kept getting rejected like I don't know I don't think I don't think women is the I don't think I don't think women is the I don't think I don't think women is the right thing for me I don't think I'm

right thing for me I don't think I'm right thing for me I don't think I'm ever going to get married so well maybe ever going to get married so well maybe ever going to get married so well maybe your approach uh just needs some work your approach uh just needs some work your approach uh just needs some work you're describing a social you're describing a social you're describing a social strategy that requires first asking a an strategy that requires first asking a an strategy that requires first asking a an introspective question which is what do introspective question which is what do introspective question which is what do I want these folks to commit to what do I want these folks to commit to what do I want these folks to commit to what do I want them to do online and it seems I want them to do online and it seems I want them to do online and it seems that this questioner already has the that this questioner already has the that this questioner already has the idea like we want them to sign up for idea like we want them to sign up for idea like we want them to sign up for these mentorship things but the social these mentorship things but the social these mentorship things but the social strategy that you're describing is such strategy that you're describing is such strategy that you're describing is such a long uh play but not not not not in a long uh play but not not not not in a long uh play but not not not not in the in the sense of the word play as in the in the sense of the word play as in the in the sense of the word play as in like a long con but like a long play as like a long con but like a long play as like a long con but like a long play as like investing in a relationship and so like investing in a relationship and so like investing in a relationship and so many of us don't think about social that many of us don't think about social that many of us don't think about social that way well and and let me pause it's not way well and and let me pause it's not way well and and let me pause it's not even a strategy all we're saying is that even a strategy all we're saying is that even a strategy all we're saying is that online should mirror Human Relationships online should mirror Human Relationships online should mirror Human Relationships right like I always ask for congruency right like I always ask for congruency right like I always ask for congruency with online and offline so we're not with online and offline so we're not with online and offline so we're not saying like you should do anything saying like you should do anything saying like you should do anything differently on social that you wouldn't differently on social that you wouldn't differently on social that you wouldn't do in real life this is Human do in real life this is Human do in real life this is Human Relationships you're probably not Relationships you're probably not Relationships you're probably not terrible at them in real life so now terrible at them in real life so now terrible at them in real life so now Port them over to online so fascinating Port them over to online so fascinating Port them over to online so fascinating we we you know on the show we talk about we we you know on the show we talk about we we you know on the show we talk about the the invent of the internet and the the the invent of the internet and the the the invent of the internet and the world we're living in being the the world we're living in being the the world we're living in being the the largest communication shift in the last largest communication shift in the last largest communication shift in the last 500 years and for some of us it feels 500 years and for some of us it feels 500 years and for some of us it feels like The Internet's been around forever like The Internet's been around forever like The Internet's been around forever and but it's we're just in the infancy and but it's we're just in the infancy and but it's we're just in the infancy stage of it true absolutely and it seems stage of it true absolutely and it seems stage of it true absolutely and it seems like we're really still fumbling our way like we're really still fumbling our way like we're really still fumbling our way through learning how to behave online through learning how to behave online through learning how to behave online right the fact that we don't even know right the fact that we don't even know right the fact that we don't even know how to mirror regular human how to mirror regular human how to mirror regular human relationships online like this is just relationships online like this is just relationships online like this is just what we're describing here and we what we're describing here and we what we're describing here and we haven't figured that out yet um that's haven't figured that out yet um that's haven't figured that out yet um that's just that that's just more evidence that just that that's just more evidence that just that that's just more evidence that yeah we're still kind of we're still

yeah we're still kind of we're still yeah we're still kind of we're still kind of figuring this out um but that's kind of figuring this out um but that's kind of figuring this out um but that's the best expression of of any social the best expression of of any social the best expression of of any social strategy whether it be your church or strategy whether it be your church or strategy whether it be your church or pro-church tools or you know the local pro-church tools or you know the local pro-church tools or you know the local pizza joint it's that that one that pizza joint it's that that one that pizza joint it's that that one that feels personal the one that acknowledges feels personal the one that acknowledges feels personal the one that acknowledges that like we can build relational Equity that like we can build relational Equity that like we can build relational Equity here through these social channels that here through these social channels that here through these social channels that that's the best expression of any social that's the best expression of any social that's the best expression of any social media strategy or or expression that media strategy or or expression that media strategy or or expression that that there is I think and if anything we that there is I think and if anything we that there is I think and if anything we don't do a good enough job promoting our don't do a good enough job promoting our don't do a good enough job promoting our content I was on a call with this content I was on a call with this content I was on a call with this Australian Church the other day and they Australian Church the other day and they Australian Church the other day and they were like at the end of the call where were like at the end of the call where were like at the end of the call where we were discussing hey is social sermons we were discussing hey is social sermons we were discussing hey is social sermons our social media agency for churches our social media agency for churches our social media agency for churches social sermons.com a good fit for you social sermons.com a good fit for you social sermons.com a good fit for you and we don't sell the platform openly on and we don't sell the platform openly on and we don't sell the platform openly on the site you have to book a discovery the site you have to book a discovery the site you have to book a discovery call with me if you're interested and we call with me if you're interested and we call with me if you're interested and we vet that because I want to meet the vet that because I want to meet the vet that because I want to meet the church face to face we're working with church face to face we're working with church face to face we're working with like 182 churches right now and I I've like 182 churches right now and I I've like 182 churches right now and I I've met with every single one because I want met with every single one because I want met with every single one because I want to sure if we're going to work together to sure if we're going to work together to sure if we're going to work together you're a good fit so we're talking we you're a good fit so we're talking we you're a good fit so we're talking we get to the end of the call he's like hey get to the end of the call he's like hey get to the end of the call he's like hey I have another question for you actually I have another question for you actually I have another question for you actually so we we need some help with like our so we we need some help with like our so we we need some help with like our Church's website what do you think about Church's website what do you think about Church's website what do you think about like the team over at nucleus and I was like the team over at nucleus and I was like the team over at nucleus and I was like my team you mean me he's like what like my team you mean me he's like what like my team you mean me he's like what do you mean you I was like I founded do you mean you I was like I founded do you mean you I was like I founded nucleus he's like you're the creator of nucleus he's like you're the creator of nucleus he's like you're the creator of nucleus so crazy I like yes he's like nucleus so crazy I like yes he's like nucleus so crazy I like yes he's like you know you really should promote that you know you really should promote that you know you really should promote that for I've heard that before so if you for I've heard that before so if you for I've heard that before so if you need help with your Church's website need help with your Church's website need help with your Church's website more than 3,000 churches find their more than 3,000 churches find their more than 3,000 churches find their websites powered by nucleus you can find websites powered by nucleus you can find websites powered by nucleus you can find us we'd love to chat with you nucleus.

us we'd love to chat with you nucleus. us we'd love to chat with you nucleus. Church yeah hey before moving on to the Church yeah hey before moving on to the Church yeah hey before moving on to the next question when we record at home next question when we record at home next question when we record at home we're in a pretty like insulated we're in a pretty like insulated we're in a pretty like insulated environment and the the thought the idea environment and the the thought the idea environment and the the thought the idea of recording here there's a lot that of recording here there's a lot that of recording here there's a lot that could be going wrong we both have two could be going wrong we both have two could be going wrong we both have two kids both of mine are asleep I think one kids both of mine are asleep I think one kids both of mine are asleep I think one of yours is asleep we just don't know of yours is asleep we just don't know of yours is asleep we just don't know who's going to come running through here who's going to come running through here who's going to come running through here I didn't expect it to be the birds I I didn't expect it to be the birds I I didn't expect it to be the birds I don't know I don't know if the mics don't know I don't know if the mics don't know I don't know if the mics caught that soundscape behind my back caught that soundscape behind my back caught that soundscape behind my back here but those birds were making a call here but those birds were making a call here but those birds were making a call that was borderline distressing I was that was borderline distressing I was that was borderline distressing I was watching in the in the reflection here watching in the in the reflection here watching in the in the reflection here wondering is there a bird in crisis that wondering is there a bird in crisis that wondering is there a bird in crisis that needs some attention so I'll be needs some attention so I'll be needs some attention so I'll be interested to see if that came through interested to see if that came through interested to see if that came through on the audio next question what's your on the audio next question what's your on the audio next question what's your workout this question is for me what's workout this question is for me what's workout this question is for me what's your workout routine tips for starting your workout routine tips for starting your workout routine tips for starting out it's not for me you're the one out it's not for me you're the one out it's not for me you're the one that's been in the gym big guy you said that's been in the gym big guy you said that's been in the gym big guy you said to me yesterday you said I've been to me yesterday you said I've been to me yesterday you said I've been eating well for eight weeks now I wanted eating well for eight weeks now I wanted eating well for eight weeks now I wanted to ask you this on the show and I saved to ask you this on the show and I saved to ask you this on the show and I saved it because if there's a human I know who it because if there's a human I know who it because if there's a human I know who eats well it's it's you so your eats well it's it's you so your eats well it's it's you so your definition of well I've really been definition of well I've really been definition of well I've really been eating well it concerns me of what that eating well it concerns me of what that eating well it concerns me of what that might mean so please tell me more so I might mean so please tell me more so I might mean so please tell me more so I took 3 months parental Eve after Aiden took 3 months parental Eve after Aiden took 3 months parental Eve after Aiden was born and being at home every day is was born and being at home every day is was born and being at home every day is really hard in the snacking Department really hard in the snacking Department really hard in the snacking Department because your body lies to you and tells because your body lies to you and tells because your body lies to you and tells you that you're hungry when you're just you that you're hungry when you're just you that you're hungry when you're just bored and so I was just doing more bored and so I was just doing more bored and so I was just doing more snacking than usual so I've cut back on snacking than usual so I've cut back on snacking than usual so I've cut back on the snacking and I am reeval the snacking and I am reeval the snacking and I am reeval re-evaluating my relationship with re-evaluating my relationship with re-evaluating my relationship with dessert because this is what happens dessert because this is what happens dessert because this is what happens when you eat clean you feel good about

when you eat clean you feel good about when you eat clean you feel good about that and then you give you inevitably that and then you give you inevitably that and then you give you inevitably give yourself permission it's so funny give yourself permission it's so funny give yourself permission it's so funny to have dessert because oh because I to have dessert because oh because I to have dessert because oh because I have been eating clean and then all of a have been eating clean and then all of a have been eating clean and then all of a sudden you're eating dessert every night sudden you're eating dessert every night sudden you're eating dessert every night eat to much dessert and then you're like eat to much dessert and then you're like eat to much dessert and then you're like I don't feel so good anymore I got to I don't feel so good anymore I got to I don't feel so good anymore I got to cut out the dessert right so I've just cut out the dessert right so I've just cut out the dessert right so I've just been trying to prioritize protein cut been trying to prioritize protein cut been trying to prioritize protein cut back on like some empty carbs yeah and back on like some empty carbs yeah and back on like some empty carbs yeah and cut out the dessert and then we get here cut out the dessert and then we get here cut out the dessert and then we get here yesterday well it's 45 minutes until yesterday well it's 45 minutes until yesterday well it's 45 minutes until dinner time there's a whole slop of dinner time there's a whole slop of dinner time there's a whole slop of snacks long day travel yesterday with snacks long day travel yesterday with snacks long day travel yesterday with the kids and then so the dinner comes so the kids and then so the dinner comes so the kids and then so the dinner comes so snacking dinner comes out churros and snacking dinner comes out churros and snacking dinner comes out churros and ice cream for dessert and this is this ice cream for dessert and this is this ice cream for dessert and this is this is where it came up uh but my workout is where it came up uh but my workout is where it came up uh but my workout routine is really simple I work out one routine is really simple I work out one routine is really simple I work out one day a week and I try and do like an all day a week and I try and do like an all day a week and I try and do like an all body thing I've got my my exercises body thing I've got my my exercises body thing I've got my my exercises separated as like push exercises and separated as like push exercises and separated as like push exercises and pull exercises that kind of thing uh but pull exercises that kind of thing uh but pull exercises that kind of thing uh but because I only work out once or twice a because I only work out once or twice a because I only work out once or twice a week I try and do like a full body thing week I try and do like a full body thing week I try and do like a full body thing um as opposed to like targeting you know um as opposed to like targeting you know um as opposed to like targeting you know just a handful of muscle groups every just a handful of muscle groups every just a handful of muscle groups every time workout mhm and I've been feeling time workout mhm and I've been feeling time workout mhm and I've been feeling great love that but this question is great love that but this question is great love that but this question is really for you love that for you so got really for you love that for you so got really for you love that for you so got a nice little gym here we do and I did a a nice little gym here we do and I did a a nice little gym here we do and I did a workout uh basically my my workout workout uh basically my my workout workout uh basically my my workout routine looks like this daily 1hour routine looks like this daily 1hour routine looks like this daily 1hour walks I uh these have dramatically walks I uh these have dramatically walks I uh these have dramatically changed my life we've talked about them changed my life we've talked about them changed my life we've talked about them before on the show I was really happy before on the show I was really happy before on the show I was really happy this morning I got to do it with uh my this morning I got to do it with uh my this morning I got to do it with uh my daughter she is you know 1819 months old daughter she is you know 1819 months old daughter she is you know 1819 months old in that range and it's winter right now in that range and it's winter right now in that range and it's winter right now in Canada and so we have not been able in Canada and so we have not been able in Canada and so we have not been able to do our daily walks we get here first to do our daily walks we get here first to do our daily walks we get here first thing we do this morning after breakfast thing we do this morning after breakfast thing we do this morning after breakfast put her in the stroller let's go explore

put her in the stroller let's go explore put her in the stroller let's go explore the area and we were out for like 90 the area and we were out for like 90 the area and we were out for like 90 minutes we went gone for a long time bit minutes we went gone for a long time bit minutes we went gone for a long time bit longer than normal well you know you you longer than normal well you know you you longer than normal well you know you you get a little far you're not on your get a little far you're not on your get a little far you're not on your normal route and you're oh oh boy yeah normal route and you're oh oh boy yeah normal route and you're oh oh boy yeah so I got her out she walked around a bit so I got her out she walked around a bit so I got her out she walked around a bit got back in the stroller lovely so got back in the stroller lovely so got back in the stroller lovely so that's every day uh then my workout that's every day uh then my workout that's every day uh then my workout split is Push Pull legs so three split is Push Pull legs so three split is Push Pull legs so three workouts per week Push Pull legs is workouts per week Push Pull legs is workouts per week Push Pull legs is basically uh a way of categorizing basically uh a way of categorizing basically uh a way of categorizing different types of exercises into uh different types of exercises into uh different types of exercises into uh grouping that would not exhaust um the grouping that would not exhaust um the grouping that would not exhaust um the other areas so push would typically be other areas so push would typically be other areas so push would typically be chest exercises shoulder exercises and chest exercises shoulder exercises and chest exercises shoulder exercises and uh tricep exercises pull would be back uh tricep exercises pull would be back uh tricep exercises pull would be back exercises uh bicep exercises uh bicep exercises uh bicep exercises and uh well the back is a big exercises and uh well the back is a big exercises and uh well the back is a big spot so you know multiple backs you you spot so you know multiple backs you you spot so you know multiple backs you you might do upper back like rear delt you might do upper back like rear delt you might do upper back like rear delt you might do lower back might do lower back might do lower back lats and then legs is self-explanatory lats and then legs is self-explanatory lats and then legs is self-explanatory quads hammies cavis quads hammies cavis quads hammies cavis so breaking it up into three lifting so breaking it up into three lifting so breaking it up into three lifting sessions and then that's 3 days per week sessions and then that's 3 days per week sessions and then that's 3 days per week and then the remaining four days per and then the remaining four days per and then the remaining four days per week I do an hour of Zone 2 cardio so week I do an hour of Zone 2 cardio so week I do an hour of Zone 2 cardio so for me my zone 2 heart rate is between for me my zone 2 heart rate is between for me my zone 2 heart rate is between 128 beats per minute and 140 beats per 128 beats per minute and 140 beats per 128 beats per minute and 140 beats per minute I went to a doctor to figure that minute I went to a doctor to figure that minute I went to a doctor to figure that out did the VO2 max test where you run out did the VO2 max test where you run out did the VO2 max test where you run on the treadmill with the mask on like on the treadmill with the mask on like on the treadmill with the mask on like you see in the movies um you don't have you see in the movies um you don't have you see in the movies um you don't have to do all that one of the easiest ways to do all that one of the easiest ways to do all that one of the easiest ways to figure out your own Zone too is like to figure out your own Zone too is like to figure out your own Zone too is like could you have a conversation while could you have a conversation while could you have a conversation while working out and like not enjoy it so working out and like not enjoy it so working out and like not enjoy it so yeah you could talk but like You' be yeah you could talk but like You' be yeah you could talk but like You' be like okay like let's let's this is not like okay like let's let's this is not like okay like let's let's this is not super leisurely like so but the idea of super leisurely like so but the idea of super leisurely like so but the idea of Zone 2 is like you're challenging

Zone 2 is like you're challenging Zone 2 is like you're challenging yourself a tiny tiny bit but you could yourself a tiny tiny bit but you could yourself a tiny tiny bit but you could basically do the workout indefinitely so basically do the workout indefinitely so basically do the workout indefinitely so I'll do it on a stationary bike in my I'll do it on a stationary bike in my I'll do it on a stationary bike in my basement for an hour that's where I basement for an hour that's where I basement for an hour that's where I watch movies that's where I catch up watch movies that's where I catch up watch movies that's where I catch up with all my movies um so that's four with all my movies um so that's four with all my movies um so that's four days per week have you seen I was days per week have you seen I was days per week have you seen I was thinking about this last night actually thinking about this last night actually thinking about this last night actually have you seen sha Shank Redemption I have you seen sha Shank Redemption I have you seen sha Shank Redemption I mean who hasn't okay I was just mean who hasn't okay I was just mean who hasn't okay I was just wondering yeah I was going to say you wondering yeah I was going to say you wondering yeah I was going to say you should add that to your list what was should add that to your list what was should add that to your list what was the movie we were talking about with the movie we were talking about with the movie we were talking about with Tristan last night true No Country for Tristan last night true No Country for Tristan last night true No Country for Old Men old men yeah yeah I hadn't seen Old Men old men yeah yeah I hadn't seen Old Men old men yeah yeah I hadn't seen that until a few years ago we watched that until a few years ago we watched that until a few years ago we watched that together on a trip so final thing I that together on a trip so final thing I that together on a trip so final thing I want to add this year which I'm not want to add this year which I'm not want to add this year which I'm not doing currently is you know about once doing currently is you know about once doing currently is you know about once per week of some high-intensity training per week of some high-intensity training per week of some high-intensity training so you know some sprinting some so you know some sprinting some so you know some sprinting some intervals that's the one thing that I'm intervals that's the one thing that I'm intervals that's the one thing that I'm missing you think you'll be able to pull missing you think you'll be able to pull missing you think you'll be able to pull that off by yourself that seems like the that off by yourself that seems like the that off by yourself that seems like the type of workout that you need like type of workout that you need like type of workout that you need like someone yelling at you to do oh you know someone yelling at you to do oh you know someone yelling at you to do oh you know I I I'm quite motivated um if nothing I I I'm quite motivated um if nothing I I I'm quite motivated um if nothing else than buy my spreadsheet yeah though else than buy my spreadsheet yeah though else than buy my spreadsheet yeah though I will say my my blue red and green I will say my my blue red and green I will say my my blue red and green ribbons have been struggling more than I ribbons have been struggling more than I ribbons have been struggling more than I would have hoped coming into this would have hoped coming into this would have hoped coming into this beginning of the beginning of the beginning of the year that's all right yeah you know what year that's all right yeah you know what year that's all right yeah you know what I was like you know what it's okay to I was like you know what it's okay to I was like you know what it's okay to recalibrate yeah and uh it's not an All recalibrate yeah and uh it's not an All recalibrate yeah and uh it's not an All or Nothing thing but what I didn't want or Nothing thing but what I didn't want or Nothing thing but what I didn't want to do is when I realized oh no I'm not to do is when I realized oh no I'm not to do is when I realized oh no I'm not going to reach my target then ditch it going to reach my target then ditch it going to reach my target then ditch it all together right that's what you don't all together right that's what you don't all together right that's what you don't want and and that even speaks to kind of want and and that even speaks to kind of want and and that even speaks to kind of the dessert and dinner thing right we the dessert and dinner thing right we the dessert and dinner thing right we can tend to get all or nothing we get can tend to get all or nothing we get can tend to get all or nothing we get into this binary especially maybe people into this binary especially maybe people into this binary especially maybe people like us with our personality types where like us with our personality types where like us with our personality types where it's like well I said no dessert might it's like well I said no dessert might it's like well I said no dessert might as well eat every dessert yeah yeah as well eat every dessert yeah yeah as well eat every dessert yeah yeah that's exactly how I feel less of that that's exactly how I feel less of that that's exactly how I feel less of that is probably better is probably better is probably better yeah um next question I know that you

yeah um next question I know that you yeah um next question I know that you say a viral for me post is about 10 say a viral for me post is about 10 say a viral for me post is about 10 times normal views but what about a post times normal views but what about a post times normal views but what about a post that fails I've seen some posts do 10 that fails I've seen some posts do 10 that fails I've seen some posts do 10 times worse than our normal views have times worse than our normal views have times worse than our normal views have you seen any reason why this may happen you seen any reason why this may happen you seen any reason why this may happen recently a YouTube short of my church recently a YouTube short of my church recently a YouTube short of my church had had nine views so I deleted it I had had nine views so I deleted it I had had nine views so I deleted it I tried posting it again the next morning tried posting it again the next morning tried posting it again the next morning then it got over 2,000 views what is then it got over 2,000 views what is then it got over 2,000 views what is that about I mean YouTube specifically that about I mean YouTube specifically that about I mean YouTube specifically is the biggest culprit with this you is the biggest culprit with this you is the biggest culprit with this you won't normally see this level of won't normally see this level of won't normally see this level of disparity on platforms like Instagram disparity on platforms like Instagram disparity on platforms like Instagram Facebook and Tik Tok uh but YouTube will Facebook and Tik Tok uh but YouTube will Facebook and Tik Tok uh but YouTube will do this the way that you need to I mean do this the way that you need to I mean do this the way that you need to I mean it's not everyone understands how it's not everyone understands how it's not everyone understands how algorithms work in a sense it's pretty algorithms work in a sense it's pretty algorithms work in a sense it's pretty simple how they're gauging whether or simple how they're gauging whether or simple how they're gauging whether or not a post is going to resonate with a not a post is going to resonate with a not a post is going to resonate with a larger audience so what they'll do is larger audience so what they'll do is larger audience so what they'll do is they'll take your post and they'll they'll take your post and they'll they'll take your post and they'll basically show it to like a small basically show it to like a small basically show it to like a small handful of people whether that's you handful of people whether that's you handful of people whether that's you know nine uh 20 something like that it's know nine uh 20 something like that it's know nine uh 20 something like that it's a small handful and based on how they a small handful and based on how they a small handful and based on how they respond that will then determine your respond that will then determine your respond that will then determine your level of of reach okay we're going to level of of reach okay we're going to level of of reach okay we're going to send this to the next group and they're send this to the next group and they're send this to the next group and they're going to be this size my guess would be going to be this size my guess would be going to be this size my guess would be that YouTube is quite strict with how that YouTube is quite strict with how that YouTube is quite strict with how they distribute so if those first nine they distribute so if those first nine they distribute so if those first nine people are not evaluating your content people are not evaluating your content people are not evaluating your content in the way that YouTube hopes they would in the way that YouTube hopes they would in the way that YouTube hopes they would then okay they're just stopping it then okay they're just stopping it then okay they're just stopping it whereas a platform like Instagram Tik whereas a platform like Instagram Tik whereas a platform like Instagram Tik Tok Facebook they're like okay we're not Tok Facebook they're like okay we're not Tok Facebook they're like okay we're not going to like push this to you know 40% going to like push this to you know 40% going to like push this to you know 40% of this Creator's audience we're going of this Creator's audience we're going of this Creator's audience we're going to push it to like 10% more and then and to push it to like 10% more and then and to push it to like 10% more and then and we'll give it a second chance see how it we'll give it a second chance see how it we'll give it a second chance see how it goes this is why if you post The goes this is why if you post The goes this is why if you post The Identical content a second time you can Identical content a second time you can Identical content a second time you can sometimes see drastically different

sometimes see drastically different sometimes see drastically different performance and this is also why you performance and this is also why you performance and this is also why you should evaluate what you're doing on should evaluate what you're doing on should evaluate what you're doing on social not over like a single post or social not over like a single post or social not over like a single post or even multiple posts but multiple weeks even multiple posts but multiple weeks even multiple posts but multiple weeks and months because you can see these and months because you can see these and months because you can see these outlier posts for the positive or the outlier posts for the positive or the outlier posts for the positive or the negative that can make you feel really negative that can make you feel really negative that can make you feel really good or really bad and that might not be good or really bad and that might not be good or really bad and that might not be a really accurate picture of your social a really accurate picture of your social a really accurate picture of your social media attraction it's also a reflection media attraction it's also a reflection media attraction it's also a reflection of how these Discovery algorithms work of how these Discovery algorithms work of how these Discovery algorithms work we now have this tremendous upside to we now have this tremendous upside to we now have this tremendous upside to reach new people not boosting posts not reach new people not boosting posts not reach new people not boosting posts not paying the downside is your posts can paying the downside is your posts can paying the downside is your posts can also flop um not usually to the same also flop um not usually to the same also flop um not usually to the same extent that the upside is possible like extent that the upside is possible like extent that the upside is possible like the upside is so much greater than the the upside is so much greater than the the upside is so much greater than the downside but YouTube does seem to be um downside but YouTube does seem to be um downside but YouTube does seem to be um a bit of a hater relative to the other a bit of a hater relative to the other a bit of a hater relative to the other side what do you think about that side what do you think about that side what do you think about that strategy then if you if you have a a strategy then if you if you have a a strategy then if you if you have a a post that like and sometimes the post post that like and sometimes the post post that like and sometimes the post that we create like we go to we go to that we create like we go to we go to that we create like we go to we go to lengths to create these posts like we're lengths to create these posts like we're lengths to create these posts like we're proud of them they are objectively good proud of them they are objectively good proud of them they are objectively good content if you have one that does flop content if you have one that does flop content if you have one that does flop nine views on Tik Tok 212 views what do nine views on Tik Tok 212 views what do nine views on Tik Tok 212 views what do you think about that strategy of like of you think about that strategy of like of you think about that strategy of like of deleting it or archiving it and maybe deleting it or archiving it and maybe deleting it or archiving it and maybe reposting it at a different time reposting it at a different time reposting it at a different time or yeah I love it especially if you know or yeah I love it especially if you know or yeah I love it especially if you know you believe in the post right cuz you believe in the post right cuz you believe in the post right cuz sometimes you put together a post and sometimes you put together a post and sometimes you put together a post and you're like this is good M sometimes you you're like this is good M sometimes you you're like this is good M sometimes you put together a post and like it took you put together a post and like it took you put together a post and like it took you a long time you really had to put effort a long time you really had to put effort a long time you really had to put effort into it in those cases if it s and into it in those cases if it s and into it in those cases if it s and you're like I'm not happy with this it's you're like I'm not happy with this it's you're like I'm not happy with this it's perfectly okay to Archive the post and perfectly okay to Archive the post and perfectly okay to Archive the post and then give it another shot and and just then give it another shot and and just then give it another shot and and just see like the way these algorithms work

see like the way these algorithms work see like the way these algorithms work it's not going to like penalize you it's not going to like penalize you it's not going to like penalize you right there's no downside and so you right there's no downside and so you right there's no downside and so you know might might be a bit embarrassing know might might be a bit embarrassing know might might be a bit embarrassing you might feel strange like I think it's you might feel strange like I think it's you might feel strange like I think it's worth acknowledging that people don't do worth acknowledging that people don't do worth acknowledging that people don't do this because they're like this is going this because they're like this is going this because they're like this is going to be really embarrassing people saw my to be really embarrassing people saw my to be really embarrassing people saw my post didn't like it now I'm going to post didn't like it now I'm going to post didn't like it now I'm going to like show up again it's like returning like show up again it's like returning like show up again it's like returning to auditions where they already said you to auditions where they already said you to auditions where they already said you are not good enough to be on this show are not good enough to be on this show are not good enough to be on this show but that's not how you should view it it but that's not how you should view it it but that's not how you should view it it can feel that way but push through it can feel that way but push through it can feel that way but push through it and if it flops again you're like okay and if it flops again you're like okay and if it flops again you're like okay I'm not I listened to Brady it didn't I'm not I listened to Brady it didn't I'm not I listened to Brady it didn't help anything I'm not doing this again help anything I'm not doing this again help anything I'm not doing this again fine but just give it one shot fine but just give it one shot fine but just give it one shot especially if you believe in the post especially if you believe in the post especially if you believe in the post you spend time on it and if it does flop you spend time on it and if it does flop you spend time on it and if it does flop again if it's a video if it's a short again if it's a video if it's a short again if it's a video if it's a short form video this type of social content form video this type of social content form video this type of social content we talk about so much on this show if it we talk about so much on this show if it we talk about so much on this show if it flops again recreate it with a different flops again recreate it with a different flops again recreate it with a different hook if if you really believe in the hook if if you really believe in the hook if if you really believe in the post if you think like this is you're post if you think like this is you're post if you think like this is you're really stubborn you're really stubborn really stubborn you're really stubborn really stubborn you're really stubborn like try it again with a different hook like try it again with a different hook like try it again with a different hook because that is usually what's defining because that is usually what's defining because that is usually what's defining performance more than anything else next performance more than anything else next performance more than anything else next question what are three non-church question what are three non-church question what are three non-church podcasts that you both enjoy most I had podcasts that you both enjoy most I had podcasts that you both enjoy most I had a hard time with this one because I had a hard time with this one because I had a hard time with this one because I had a hard time because because of the uh a hard time because because of the uh a hard time because because of the uh the the disclaimer of non-church podcast the the disclaimer of non-church podcast the the disclaimer of non-church podcast because admittedly I'm I'm subscribed to because admittedly I'm I'm subscribed to because admittedly I'm I'm subscribed to a lot of podcasts I should have counted a lot of podcasts I should have counted a lot of podcasts I should have counted how many and I would venture to guess how many and I would venture to guess how many and I would venture to guess like 90% of them are church churchy like 90% of them are church churchy like 90% of them are church churchy church I had a hard time he's religious church I had a hard time he's religious church I had a hard time he's religious everyone he wants you to know it but everyone he wants you to know it but everyone he wants you to know it but I'll go first uh wow I'll go first uh wow I'll go first uh wow coming out of the gate Swinging with coming out of the gate Swinging with coming out of the gate Swinging with this one uh it's called the meat eater this one uh it's called the meat eater this one uh it's called the meat eater podcast which I know can come off a podcast which I know can come off a podcast which I know can come off a little depending on your relationship little depending on your relationship little depending on your relationship with food and I'm going to need you to

with food and I'm going to need you to with food and I'm going to need you to tell me more about it the meat eater tell me more about it the meat eater tell me more about it the meat eater network is like a really it's like the network is like a really it's like the network is like a really it's like the biggest hunting podcast and hunting biggest hunting podcast and hunting biggest hunting podcast and hunting network uh around got it and so they network uh around got it and so they network uh around got it and so they have like really really great content um have like really really great content um have like really really great content um and they put out a lot of content like and they put out a lot of content like and they put out a lot of content like two or three podcasts a week on their two or three podcasts a week on their two or three podcasts a week on their main feed and then they have other main feed and then they have other main feed and then they have other podcasts like in their Network I listen podcasts like in their Network I listen podcasts like in their Network I listen to a lot of the meat eater um Network to a lot of the meat eater um Network to a lot of the meat eater um Network podcasts so it's hunting it's not like podcasts so it's hunting it's not like podcasts so it's hunting it's not like carnivore diet right it's hunting yeah carnivore diet right it's hunting yeah carnivore diet right it's hunting yeah it's not just like just talking about uh it's not just like just talking about uh it's not just like just talking about uh carnivore diet you don't need vegetables carnivore diet you don't need vegetables carnivore diet you don't need vegetables or Fiber I know that's really popular or Fiber I know that's really popular or Fiber I know that's really popular right now I know some of you listening right now I know some of you listening right now I know some of you listening are like Brady I've been on the are like Brady I've been on the are like Brady I've been on the carnivore D it's been I just I just good carnivore D it's been I just I just good carnivore D it's been I just I just good for you but the thing I love about the for you but the thing I love about the for you but the thing I love about the mediator podcast for the last couple mediator podcast for the last couple mediator podcast for the last couple years is they've started uh a trivia years is they've started uh a trivia years is they've started uh a trivia show and the trivia show on the podcast show and the trivia show on the podcast show and the trivia show on the podcast was received so well that they actually was received so well that they actually was received so well that they actually turned it into a board game so now you turned it into a board game so now you turned it into a board game so now you can buy it it's mediator trivia you got can buy it it's mediator trivia you got can buy it it's mediator trivia you got a a code us no I don't but every week a a code us no I don't but every week a a code us no I don't but every week they release a trivia show so it's like they release a trivia show so it's like they release a trivia show so it's like they have people in the room there's they have people in the room there's they have people in the room there's like eight or 10 people in the room like eight or 10 people in the room like eight or 10 people in the room whether people who work in the medior whether people who work in the medior whether people who work in the medior offices or if they have a special guest offices or if they have a special guest offices or if they have a special guest on the podcast the main podcast that on the podcast the main podcast that on the podcast the main podcast that that week they'll bring them into the that week they'll bring them into the that week they'll bring them into the show and it's just 10 questions about show and it's just 10 questions about show and it's just 10 questions about like Wildlife Conservation cooking and like Wildlife Conservation cooking and like Wildlife Conservation cooking and there's a fourth category that I can't there's a fourth category that I can't there's a fourth category that I can't remember um but it's just so remember um but it's just so remember um but it's just so entertaining I'm learning I learned so entertaining I'm learning I learned so entertaining I'm learning I learned so much from that show so I was a listener much from that show so I was a listener much from that show so I was a listener to the media podcast before the trivia to the media podcast before the trivia to the media podcast before the trivia show but now I'm really enjoying the show but now I'm really enjoying the show but now I'm really enjoying the trivia show and if you use code Pastor trivia show and if you use code Pastor trivia show and if you use code Pastor pork it check out 15% off and free pork it check out 15% off and free pork it check out 15% off and 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shipping uh okay the next one is called shipping uh okay the next one is called the walk a little slower podcast it's by the walk a little slower podcast it's by the walk a little slower podcast it's by this guy named Tanner Olsen and he's a this guy named Tanner Olsen and he's a this guy named Tanner Olsen and he's a he's a poet he's an author and his poem he's a poet he's an author and his poem he's a poet he's an author and his poem entitled walk a little slower came entitled walk a little slower came entitled walk a little slower came across my social feeds sometime in the across my social feeds sometime in the across my social feeds sometime in the last handful of years it like stopped me last handful of years it like stopped me last handful of years it like stopped me in my tracks one of the best poems I've in my tracks one of the best poems I've in my tracks one of the best poems I've read in a long time to the point where read in a long time to the point where read in a long time to the point where like I stopped what I was doing I looked like I stopped what I was doing I looked like I stopped what I was doing I looked him up he's got a book of poetry called him up he's got a book of poetry called him up he's got a book of poetry called you guess it walk a little slower I you guess it walk a little slower I you guess it walk a little slower I actually don't have a copy anymore I actually don't have a copy anymore I actually don't have a copy anymore I have had multiple copies and I keep have had multiple copies and I keep have had multiple copies and I keep giving them away that's like how much I giving them away that's like how much I giving them away that's like how much I enjoy this book and this podcast is enjoy this book and this podcast is enjoy this book and this podcast is really simple he adds an episode like really simple he adds an episode like really simple he adds an episode like once a week or something and he simply once a week or something and he simply once a week or something and he simply just reads one of his poems whether it's just reads one of his poems whether it's just reads one of his poems whether it's one from one of his books or like new one from one of his books or like new one from one of his books or like new material he's working on he's just like material he's working on he's just like material he's working on he's just like a very calming non-anxious presence and a very calming non-anxious presence and a very calming non-anxious presence and it's just a space to listen to some nice it's just a space to listen to some nice it's just a space to listen to some nice man read a lovely poem for eight minutes man read a lovely poem for eight minutes man read a lovely poem for eight minutes or so and then move on with your day so or so and then move on with your day so or so and then move on with your day so sometimes my days can feel like busy sometimes my days can feel like busy sometimes my days can feel like busy loud stimulating whether it's work or or loud stimulating whether it's work or or loud stimulating whether it's work or or home or play wherever and those I if I home or play wherever and those I if I home or play wherever and those I if I ever need like something like you know ever need like something like you know ever need like something like you know the the call app or whatever like a a the the call app or whatever like a a the the call app or whatever like a a time to like meditate I'll usually go to time to like meditate I'll usually go to time to like meditate I'll usually go to this podcast and just listen to one of this podcast and just listen to one of this podcast and just listen to one of his poems yeah it's really good stuff his poems yeah it's really good stuff his poems yeah it's really good stuff and the last one is kind of and the last one is kind of and the last one is kind of churchy man couldn't he did not churchy man couldn't he did not churchy man couldn't he did not understand the assignment it's called understand the assignment it's called understand the assignment it's called for parents with Kayla Craig she's an for parents with Kayla Craig she's an for parents with Kayla Craig she's an author she's she's written a couple author she's she's written a couple author she's she's written a couple books that like are part of the the books that like are part of the the books that like are part of the the rudder for our lives right now U they're

rudder for our lives right now U they're rudder for our lives right now U they're prayer books so and one of them is prayer books so and one of them is prayer books so and one of them is specifically for parents so prayers for specifically for parents so prayers for specifically for parents so prayers for being a parent uh being a parents really being a parent uh being a parents really being a parent uh being a parents really hard and talk about like trying to be a hard and talk about like trying to be a hard and talk about like trying to be a non-anxious presence it's really hard to non-anxious presence it's really hard to non-anxious presence it's really hard to be a non-anxious parent and these be a non-anxious parent and these be a non-anxious parent and these liturgies these prayers they like I said liturgies these prayers they like I said liturgies these prayers they like I said they're like the rudder of our ship they're like the rudder of our ship they're like the rudder of our ship right now and so she has this podcast right now and so she has this podcast right now and so she has this podcast liturgies for parents where it's similar liturgies for parents where it's similar liturgies for parents where it's similar IL to the Tanner Olson podcast where she IL to the Tanner Olson podcast where she IL to the Tanner Olson podcast where she gets on she'll read like a a scripture gets on she'll read like a a scripture gets on she'll read like a a scripture and then one of her liturgies that she and then one of her liturgies that she and then one of her liturgies that she has either published or is currently has either published or is currently has either published or is currently writing she'll just read like over you writing she'll just read like over you writing she'll just read like over you or with you and invite you she says like or with you and invite you she says like or with you and invite you she says like make what wherever you are a Sacred make what wherever you are a Sacred make what wherever you are a Sacred Space and specifically in the context of Space and specifically in the context of Space and specifically in the context of parenting this one's been really helpful parenting this one's been really helpful parenting this one's been really helpful for me I will listen to this in the car for me I will listen to this in the car for me I will listen to this in the car usually after dropping off a kid at usually after dropping off a kid at usually after dropping off a kid at daycare or something you know like you daycare or something you know like you daycare or something you know like you just need a few minutes to reset um just need a few minutes to reset um just need a few minutes to reset um depending on what's going on during the depending on what's going on during the depending on what's going on during the day so that's liturgies for parents with day so that's liturgies for parents with day so that's liturgies for parents with Kayla Craig a little bit churchy okay Kayla Craig a little bit churchy okay Kayla Craig a little bit churchy okay yeah well and Pastor poetry the man that yeah well and Pastor poetry the man that yeah well and Pastor poetry the man that puts lit in liturgy was ready at dinner puts lit in liturgy was ready at dinner puts lit in liturgy was ready at dinner last night as we kicked off our annual last night as we kicked off our annual last night as we kicked off our annual Retreat he had a prayer for Gatherings Retreat he had a prayer for Gatherings Retreat he had a prayer for Gatherings is very uh is you know made that moment is very uh is you know made that moment is very uh is you know made that moment sacred for all of us okay so three sacred for all of us okay so three sacred for all of us okay so three podcasts that I've got uh these are all podcasts that I've got uh these are all podcasts that I've got uh these are all going to make me look like a fanboy for going to make me look like a fanboy for going to make me look like a fanboy for uh the ringer podcast Network let me uh the ringer podcast Network let me uh the ringer podcast Network let me just tell you I had a personal Vendetta just tell you I had a personal Vendetta just tell you I had a personal Vendetta against Bill Simmons the founder of the against Bill Simmons the founder of the against Bill Simmons the founder of the ringer uh why because uh Boston Sports ringer uh why because uh Boston Sports ringer uh why because uh Boston Sports media is a virus that infects all Sports media is a virus that infects all Sports media is a virus that infects all Sports media and it must be stopped and Bill media and it must be stopped and Bill media and it must be stopped and Bill Simmons is of course the the head of the Simmons is of course the the head of the Simmons is of course the the head of the snake but I would listen and I would snake but I would listen and I would snake but I would listen and I would hate listen at the beginning yeah and hate listen at the beginning yeah and hate listen at the beginning yeah and this really speaks to the content uh the this really speaks to the content uh the this really speaks to the content uh the quality of the people that he's hiring

quality of the people that he's hiring quality of the people that he's hiring at the ringer uh because I would listen at the ringer uh because I would listen at the ringer uh because I would listen to his show and then I'd start with to his show and then I'd start with to his show and then I'd start with another show and I was like well this is another show and I was like well this is another show and I was like well this is a good show and then it was like uhoh I a good show and then it was like uhoh I a good show and then it was like uhoh I start to believe that the next show is start to believe that the next show is start to believe that the next show is going to be a good show so these are going to be a good show so these are going to be a good show so these are three from the ringer that are my three from the ringer that are my three from the ringer that are my favorite the first is called plain favorite the first is called plain favorite the first is called plain English with Derrick Thompson just a few English with Derrick Thompson just a few English with Derrick Thompson just a few of the episode titles the dark side of of the episode titles the dark side of of the episode titles the dark side of the internet's obsession with anxiety so the internet's obsession with anxiety so the internet's obsession with anxiety so the name is pretty self-descriptive the name is pretty self-descriptive the name is pretty self-descriptive playing English with Derrick Thompson playing English with Derrick Thompson playing English with Derrick Thompson hits on a ton of different uh Concepts hits on a ton of different uh Concepts hits on a ton of different uh Concepts and topics that are probably beyond our and topics that are probably beyond our and topics that are probably beyond our understanding so he'll bring on Experts understanding so he'll bring on Experts understanding so he'll bring on Experts and he's like okay this seems important and he's like okay this seems important and he's like okay this seems important tell me what this actually means so that tell me what this actually means so that tell me what this actually means so that episode about anxiety brings on this episode about anxiety brings on this episode about anxiety brings on this expert and they're like yeah like with expert and they're like yeah like with expert and they're like yeah like with how much we talk about anxiety now it's how much we talk about anxiety now it's how much we talk about anxiety now it's starting to become so aware in the starting to become so aware in the starting to become so aware in the cultural Zeitgeist that people are cultural Zeitgeist that people are cultural Zeitgeist that people are seeing things that might not actually be seeing things that might not actually be seeing things that might not actually be there and so we've swung so far on the there and so we've swung so far on the there and so we've swung so far on the spectrum that creating problems that spectrum that creating problems that spectrum that creating problems that don't exist it was healthy to be aware don't exist it was healthy to be aware don't exist it was healthy to be aware of them we've gone too far of them we've gone too far of them we've gone too far classic I subscrib to we do it yeah I classic I subscrib to we do it yeah I classic I subscrib to we do it yeah I subscribed to a Reddit thread called subscribed to a Reddit thread called subscribed to a Reddit thread called explain it to me like I'm five there you explain it to me like I'm five there you explain it to me like I'm five there you go sounds like the same thing it's like go sounds like the same thing it's like go sounds like the same thing it's like there's stuff out there that people know there's stuff out there that people know there's stuff out there that people know about that I need to know about but I'm about that I need to know about but I'm about that I need to know about but I'm not smart enough to know about so it's not smart enough to know about so it's not smart enough to know about so it's like can we just speak in plain English like can we just speak in plain English like can we just speak in plain English yeah that's number one number two the yeah that's number one number two the yeah that's number one number two the big picture with Shan fennessy and big picture with Shan fennessy and big picture with Shan fennessy and Amanda Dobbins this is their uh film Amanda Dobbins this is their uh film Amanda Dobbins this is their uh film review show kind of a weird thing that's review show kind of a weird thing that's review show kind of a weird thing that's happening in the world right now where happening in the world right now where happening in the world right now where like it's kind of almost a phenomenon like it's kind of almost a phenomenon like it's kind of almost a phenomenon where we want to watch people play video where we want to watch people play video where we want to watch people play video games which I don't watch streamers so I games which I don't watch streamers so I games which I don't watch streamers so I don't understand the draw to that uh but don't understand the draw to that uh but don't understand the draw to that uh but I started listening to like reaction I started listening to like reaction I started listening to like reaction podcasts to like Raptors games podcasts to like Raptors games podcasts to like Raptors games basketball team and then I stopped

basketball team and then I stopped basketball team and then I stopped watching the Raptors games and just watching the Raptors games and just watching the Raptors games and just listened to the reaction podcast because listened to the reaction podcast because listened to the reaction podcast because I just don't have time at night to sit I just don't have time at night to sit I just don't have time at night to sit down for two and a half hours with two down for two and a half hours with two down for two and a half hours with two kids in the life that I live but I want kids in the life that I live but I want kids in the life that I live but I want to keep on top of the team and now I to keep on top of the team and now I to keep on top of the team and now I don't actually watch the NBA I just don't actually watch the NBA I just don't actually watch the NBA I just listen to content about the NBA what is listen to content about the NBA what is listen to content about the NBA what is that seems strange not sure if it's that seems strange not sure if it's that seems strange not sure if it's healthy but that's what I do want to healthy but that's what I do want to healthy but that's what I do want to explore that so now I've begun uh explore that so now I've begun uh explore that so now I've begun uh listening to reaction podcasts on films listening to reaction podcasts on films listening to reaction podcasts on films and it's so great because it makes you and it's so great because it makes you and it's so great because it makes you feel like a part of a community even if feel like a part of a community even if feel like a part of a community even if maybe the people around you like don't maybe the people around you like don't maybe the people around you like don't care about certain things that you care care about certain things that you care care about certain things that you care about yeah like hunting yeah uh and then about yeah like hunting yeah uh and then about yeah like hunting yeah uh and then the final one is the town with Matt the final one is the town with Matt the final one is the town with Matt bellony uh this show is all about kind bellony uh this show is all about kind bellony uh this show is all about kind of the entertainment industry and what's of the entertainment industry and what's of the entertainment industry and what's happening so some episodes that I've happening so some episodes that I've happening so some episodes that I've enjoyed recently five major music enjoyed recently five major music enjoyed recently five major music business questions after the Grammys business questions after the Grammys business questions after the Grammys will the new all-in sports app finally will the new all-in sports app finally will the new all-in sports app finally kill cable Warner Brothers and Paramount kill cable Warner Brothers and Paramount kill cable Warner Brothers and Paramount are talking should they merge so really are talking should they merge so really are talking should they merge so really just talking about like entertainment just talking about like entertainment just talking about like entertainment industry Sports the town is of course industry Sports the town is of course industry Sports the town is of course related to Hollywood the moniker being related to Hollywood the moniker being related to Hollywood the moniker being the town look at us not including any the town look at us not including any the town look at us not including any sports podcast on this list oh wow I did sports podcast on this list oh wow I did sports podcast on this list oh wow I did that intentionally because the first the that intentionally because the first the that intentionally because the first the first podcast that came to mind was like first podcast that came to mind was like first podcast that came to mind was like oh like I've got all my teams are trash oh like I've got all my teams are trash oh like I've got all my teams are trash or we always lose in the Super Bowl so I or we always lose in the Super Bowl so I or we always lose in the Super Bowl so I can't really listen to sports podcasts can't really listen to sports podcasts can't really listen to sports podcasts anymore okay next question it's about anymore okay next question it's about anymore okay next question it's about YouTube Bro our YouTube is popping off YouTube Bro our YouTube is popping off YouTube Bro our YouTube is popping off right now our main page and student page right now our main page and student page right now our main page and student page have had their best weeks of Engagement have had their best weeks of Engagement have had their best weeks of Engagement ever in the past two weeks they both ever in the past two weeks they both ever in the past two weeks they both have had viral for us posts in the have had viral for us posts in the have had viral for us posts in the shorts feed so here's a question I'd shorts feed so 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interactions are just boo boo boosting interactions are just boo boo boosting Us in the algorithm I believe you've Us in the algorithm I believe you've Us in the algorithm I believe you've talked before about how to respond to talked before about how to respond to talked before about how to respond to negativity we have a good set of negativity we have a good set of negativity we have a good set of principles for that you know like if principles for that you know like if principles for that you know like if it's genuine will engageed and if they it's genuine will engageed and if they it's genuine will engageed and if they are uh lost for example God's not real are uh lost for example God's not real are uh lost for example God's not real we generally respond in a friendly way we generally respond in a friendly way we generally respond in a friendly way that apps the person to Jesus the that apps the person to Jesus the that apps the person to Jesus the challenge for us challenge for us challenge for us is when the mean comments come from is when the mean comments come from is when the mean comments come from Christians I had someone say that my Christians I had someone say that my Christians I had someone say that my voice was dumb someone called our pastor voice was dumb someone called our pastor voice was dumb someone called our pastor fat Etc so someone who's a public figure fat Etc so someone who's a public figure fat Etc so someone who's a public figure who has had to learn to deal with this who has had to learn to deal with this who has had to learn to deal with this what advice do you have for people who what advice do you have for people who what advice do you have for people who might be experiencing this for the first might be experiencing this for the first might be experiencing this for the first time yeah so there's an element to this time yeah so there's an element to this time yeah so there's an element to this that is really just exposure therapy that is really just exposure therapy that is really just exposure therapy kind of where the first time it happens kind of where the first time it happens kind of where the first time it happens it's really upsetting it's really kind it's really upsetting it's really kind it's really upsetting it's really kind of just knocks you of just knocks you of just knocks you back um and then the more that it back um and then the more that it back um and then the more that it happens happens happens the more people say the same things and the more people say the same things and the more people say the same things and you start to like not care as much um you start to like not care as much um you start to like not care as much um you know the the best story I always you know the the best story I always you know the the best story I always tell is the eyebrows one where people tell is the eyebrows one where people tell is the eyebrows one where people were like why can't we see your eyebrows were like why can't we see your eyebrows were like why can't we see your eyebrows and there's so there's an element to and there's so there's an element to and there's so there's an element to this where it actually can be valuable this where it actually can be valuable this where it actually can be valuable it can help you understand how you're it can help you understand how you're it can help you understand how you're perceived by others in a way that people perceived by others in a way that people perceived by others in a way that people close to you would probably never say close to you would probably never say close to you would probably never say sure because one they're so close to it sure because one they're so close to it sure because one they're so close to it that they don't think about it and two that they don't think about it and two that they don't think about it and two uh they might be like no I would never uh they might be like no I would never uh they might be like no I would never actually say that actually say that actually say that even if it's that's not any way whereas even if it's that's not any way whereas even if it's that's not any way whereas someone on the internet with the uh someone on the internet with the uh someone on the internet with the uh Power of being a keyboard Warrior might Power of being a keyboard Warrior might Power of being a keyboard Warrior might um what did what did Ron call them thumb um what did what did Ron call them thumb um what did what did Ron call them thumb thugs yes yes a side note like if you

thugs yes yes a side note like if you thugs yes yes a side note like if you watched our last two episodes our watched our last two episodes our watched our last two episodes our interview with Ron at Transformation interview with Ron at Transformation interview with Ron at Transformation Church and our interview with Nikki at Church and our interview with Nikki at Church and our interview with Nikki at Elevation Church and then you're like oh Elevation Church and then you're like oh Elevation Church and then you're like oh I subscribed I'm going to come in so I subscribed I'm going to come in so I subscribed I'm going to come in so once a month we open the mailbag we once a month we open the mailbag we once a month we open the mailbag we answer questions rarely not rarely answer questions rarely not rarely answer questions rarely not rarely unprecedent we have never been on the unprecedent we have never been on the unprecedent we have never been on the corporate retreat when we did it so corporate retreat when we did it so corporate retreat when we did it so we're still doing the same thing though we're still doing the same thing though we're still doing the same thing though some of the formal Cadence to these some of the formal Cadence to these some of the formal Cadence to these answers does feel strange when I have a answers does feel strange when I have a answers does feel strange when I have a Mojito and I'm like reclining so far so Mojito and I'm like reclining so far so Mojito and I'm like reclining so far so uh people were like hey why are your uh people were like hey why are your uh people were like hey why are your eyebrows invisible and what I realized eyebrows invisible and what I realized eyebrows invisible and what I realized was that like I have blonde hair and was that like I have blonde hair and was that like I have blonde hair and like my eyebrows were invisible and so I like my eyebrows were invisible and so I like my eyebrows were invisible and so I started getting my eyebrows tinted and I started getting my eyebrows tinted and I started getting my eyebrows tinted and I was like oh I'm so glad somebody said was like oh I'm so glad somebody said was like oh I'm so glad somebody said this now my eyebrows match my hair and this now my eyebrows match my hair and this now my eyebrows match my hair and this is better for for everyone and for this is better for for everyone and for this is better for for everyone and for me people in the YouTube comments saying me people in the YouTube comments saying me people in the YouTube comments saying why do you have hair like a woman and why do you have hair like a woman and why do you have hair like a woman and still remain uh with the uh I almost still remain uh with the uh I almost still remain uh with the uh I almost just said one of the most disparaging uh just said one of the most disparaging uh just said one of the most disparaging uh phrases out loud that someone referred phrases out loud that someone referred phrases out loud that someone referred to my hair with and I can't say that on to my hair with and I can't say that on to my hair with and I can't say that on the show no we we are relaxed but it's the show no we we are relaxed but it's the show no we we are relaxed but it's still we still have to be safe for work still we still have to be safe for work still we still have to be safe for work yeah and I still have my long hair so I yeah and I still have my long hair so I yeah and I still have my long hair so I haven't made any alterations or changes haven't made any alterations or changes haven't made any alterations or changes based off the feedback right and there based off the feedback right and there based off the feedback right and there there there's two paths you can take one there there's two paths you can take one there there's two paths you can take one you can just do whatever people say yeah you can just do whatever people say yeah you can just do whatever people say yeah you know Brady secondly you can be like you know Brady secondly you can be like you know Brady secondly you can be like no I'm my own person and I'm going to no I'm my own person and I'm going to no I'm my own person and I'm going to stick to my uh stick to my guns as they stick to my uh stick to my guns as they stick to my uh stick to my guns as they as they were but it is tough you never as they were but it is tough you never as they were but it is tough you never get I I I don't believe you ever get get I I I don't believe you ever get get I I I don't believe you ever get immune to it uh because we are we still immune to it uh because we are we still immune to it uh because we are we still remain human um but yeah remain human um but yeah remain human um but yeah sometimes my wife has still get so sometimes my wife has still get so sometimes my wife has still get so worked up about that one comment that I

worked up about that one comment that I worked up about that one comment that I just alluded to um and that's just just alluded to um and that's just just alluded to um and that's just because she hasn't heard any of the because she hasn't heard any of the because she hasn't heard any of the other ones what's funny is that she used other ones what's funny is that she used other ones what's funny is that she used a very similarly alliterated phrase a very similarly alliterated phrase a very similarly alliterated phrase about me when I started using airpods about me when I started using airpods about me when I started using airpods yeah that's true uh and you're still yeah that's true uh and you're still yeah that's true uh and you're still using airpods like the rest of us next using airpods like the rest of us next using airpods like the rest of us next question I'm not completely question I'm not completely question I'm not completely what are the top three countries you what are the top three countries you what are the top three countries you visited and which one would you choose visited and which one would you choose visited and which one would you choose to live in okay so I counted up all the to live in okay so I counted up all the to live in okay so I counted up all the countries that I've been to yeah I've countries that I've been to yeah I've countries that I've been to yeah I've only been to 16 that's not only that's only been to 16 that's not only that's only been to 16 that's not only that's quite a bit there's like 350 countries quite a bit there's like 350 countries quite a bit there's like 350 countries there's a lot you've been to a lot of there's a lot you've been to a lot of there's a lot you've been to a lot of States this is the problem I spent all States this is the problem I spent all States this is the problem I spent all of my 20s in America I've been to I of my 20s in America I've been to I of my 20s in America I've been to I think it's like 37 of 50 states I've think it's like 37 of 50 states I've think it's like 37 of 50 states I've been to virtually every major American been to virtually every major American been to virtually every major American city because I've been to every MLB city because I've been to every MLB city because I've been to every MLB Ballpark any interest to see the states Ballpark any interest to see the states Ballpark any interest to see the states that you haven't seen yeah like some that you haven't seen yeah like some that you haven't seen yeah like some yeah like I've never been to New Orleans yeah like I've never been to New Orleans yeah like I've never been to New Orleans like Louisiana I'd love to go there like Louisiana I'd love to go there like Louisiana I'd love to go there Alaska would love to go there Alaska would love to go there Alaska would love to go there um it's about that um it's about that um it's about that well I mean Wyoming seems to have some well I mean Wyoming seems to have some well I mean Wyoming seems to have some things yeah you know so certainly there things yeah you know so certainly there things yeah you know so certainly there are some yeah um so uh these are the 16 are some yeah um so uh these are the 16 are some yeah um so uh these are the 16 countries that I've been to just so that countries that I've been to just so that countries that I've been to just so that we can consider the the list Austria we can consider the the list Austria we can consider the the list Austria Costa Rica Dominican Republic where we Costa Rica Dominican Republic where we Costa Rica Dominican Republic where we are right now Pharaoh Islands France are right now Pharaoh Islands France are right now Pharaoh Islands France Germany Greece Iceland Italy Maldives Germany Greece Iceland Italy Maldives Germany Greece Iceland Italy Maldives Mexico Portugal Spain United Arab Mexico Portugal Spain United Arab Mexico Portugal Spain United Arab Emirates United Kingdom United States Emirates United Kingdom United States Emirates United Kingdom United States and there are four more countries that I and there are four more countries that I and there are four more countries that I plant to check off later this year plant to check off later this year plant to check off later this year Netherlands Sweden Denmark and Norway Netherlands Sweden Denmark and Norway Netherlands Sweden Denmark and Norway the top three the top three the top three in no particular order number one is

in no particular order number one is in no particular order number one is Iceland really there's just nowhere like Iceland really there's just nowhere like Iceland really there's just nowhere like it and you have this on your top three it and you have this on your top three it and you have this on your top three so to so to so to you I I don't know how to describe it in you I I don't know how to describe it in you I I don't know how to describe it in any other way other than like it's any other way other than like it's any other way other than like it's it's just it's so other and which is why it's just it's so other and which is why it's just it's so other and which is why we loved the state of Utah the south of we loved the state of Utah the south of we loved the state of Utah the south of that it's like where are we there were that it's like where are we there were that it's like where are we there were so many times where you we were in like so many times where you we were in like so many times where you we were in like presumably like uninhabited land like presumably like uninhabited land like presumably like uninhabited land like virgin land which was is just such a virgin land which was is just such a virgin land which was is just such a foreign feeling uh for you know folks foreign feeling uh for you know folks foreign feeling uh for you know folks like us who who were born and raised in like us who who were born and raised in like us who who were born and raised in the west like it it was just it was it's the west like it it was just it was it's the west like it it was just it was it's so the place is so the place is so the place is Mystical um so I definitely had it in in Mystical um so I definitely had it in in Mystical um so I definitely had it in in my list um my list um my list um also another country that's both shared also another country that's both shared also another country that's both shared in our lists Italy oh and and and I have in our lists Italy oh and and and I have in our lists Italy oh and and and I have been to a part that you have not right been to a part that you have not right been to a part that you have not right and you have been to parts that I have and you have been to parts that I have and you have been to parts that I have not and really this is why Italy is so not and really this is why Italy is so not and really this is why Italy is so high on my list because I've only been high on my list because I've only been high on my list because I've only been to one area I flew out of Venice but I to one area I flew out of Venice but I to one area I flew out of Venice but I didn't even go to Venice I've just been didn't even go to Venice I've just been didn't even go to Venice I've just been to the dolomites so the northern you to the dolomites so the northern you to the dolomites so the northern you know tyian region and that means that know tyian region and that means that know tyian region and that means that there's like uh it's like America in a there's like uh it's like America in a there's like uh it's like America in a lot of ways like it just has so much to lot of ways like it just has so much to lot of ways like it just has so much to explore explore explore yeah and so I've been to we FW to Naples yeah and so I've been to we FW to Naples yeah and so I've been to we FW to Naples and spent a week in the Amalfi Coast so and spent a week in the Amalfi Coast so and spent a week in the Amalfi Coast so it didn't even make it up to like Rome it didn't even make it up to like Rome it didn't even make it up to like Rome or anything more north than that which or anything more north than that which or anything more north than that which again it's just like a whole another again it's just like a whole another again it's just like a whole another cultural experience my mom's family is cultural experience my mom's family is cultural experience my mom's family is Italian and so when Rebecca and I landed Italian and so when Rebecca and I landed Italian and so when Rebecca and I landed there I felt there I felt there I felt um yeah just like um I don't know if

um yeah just like um I don't know if um yeah just like um I don't know if it's I don't know what the word is like it's I don't know what the word is like it's I don't know what the word is like Nostalgia even though I'd never been Nostalgia even though I'd never been Nostalgia even though I'd never been there before I just felt like I there before I just felt like I there before I just felt like I understood the culture and I really understood the culture and I really understood the culture and I really enjoyed that feeling I Italian cuisine enjoyed that feeling I Italian cuisine enjoyed that feeling I Italian cuisine is my favorite like is my favorite food is my favorite like is my favorite food is my favorite like is my favorite food and again to the the the diversity of and again to the the the diversity of and again to the the the diversity of that country like you can enjoy the same that country like you can enjoy the same that country like you can enjoy the same dish whether it's pasta or pizza or wine dish whether it's pasta or pizza or wine dish whether it's pasta or pizza or wine or whatever in different areas of that or whatever in different areas of that or whatever in different areas of that country and have a totally different country and have a totally different country and have a totally different like cultural experience which I I love like cultural experience which I I love like cultural experience which I I love too but man the Amalfi Coast I I'll just too but man the Amalfi Coast I I'll just too but man the Amalfi Coast I I'll just skip right to it the Amalfi Coast is the skip right to it the Amalfi Coast is the skip right to it the Amalfi Coast is the place where I could I could pack up my place where I could I could pack up my place where I could I could pack up my bags that's the one yeah and settle and bags that's the one yeah and settle and bags that's the one yeah and settle and move to and okay give a quick hit on the move to and okay give a quick hit on the move to and okay give a quick hit on the Third Country you had um oh uh Uganda of Third Country you had um oh uh Uganda of Third Country you had um oh uh Uganda of course Uganda is where Rebecca and I met course Uganda is where Rebecca and I met course Uganda is where Rebecca and I met um it's been we have been home since um it's been we have been home since um it's been we have been home since 2012 so it's been a long time and I 2012 so it's been a long time and I 2012 so it's been a long time and I don't know when or if we would ever go don't know when or if we would ever go don't know when or if we would ever go back um but that country just really we back um but that country just really we back um but that country just really we both spent a long time there Rebeca both spent a long time there Rebeca both spent a long time there Rebeca lived there for a year I live there for lived there for a year I live there for lived there for a year I live there for the better part of a year just has like the better part of a year just has like the better part of a year just has like a really big part and piece of our a really big part and piece of our a really big part and piece of our hearts uh I'd love to take my family hearts uh I'd love to take my family hearts uh I'd love to take my family back there like our kids um it's a it's back there like our kids um it's a it's back there like our kids um it's a it's a journey you know to get there but yeah a journey you know to get there but yeah a journey you know to get there but yeah it's just really special place to us so it's just really special place to us so it's just really special place to us so I can't live in I can't live in I can't live in Iceland no I need four seasons and I am Iceland no I need four seasons and I am Iceland no I need four seasons and I am a Canadian but I live in the south of a Canadian but I live in the south of a Canadian but I live in the south of Canada I'm a softer Canadian I lived in Canada I'm a softer Canadian I lived in Canada I'm a softer Canadian I lived in the north of Canada had to leave yeah the north of Canada had to leave yeah the north of Canada had to leave yeah wasn't ready for it wasn't I'm not built

wasn't ready for it wasn't I'm not built wasn't ready for it wasn't I'm not built different I'm built the same as most different I'm built the same as most different I'm built the same as most Canadians which is why we all live in Canadians which is why we all live in Canadians which is why we all live in the same place um it's a little too the same place um it's a little too the same place um it's a little too other and it's too remote M Italy in the other and it's too remote M Italy in the other and it's too remote M Italy in the same reason that you would want to live same reason that you would want to live same reason that you would want to live there I am not Italian I don't speak the there I am not Italian I don't speak the there I am not Italian I don't speak the language I don't have that rich family language I don't have that rich family language I don't have that rich family history and so I would always feel like history and so I would always feel like history and so I would always feel like I don't belong here which is why the I don't belong here which is why the I don't belong here which is why the number one country for me that I love to number one country for me that I love to number one country for me that I love to visit and would absolutely be okay to visit and would absolutely be okay to visit and would absolutely be okay to live live live him and I'm almost embarrassed to choose him and I'm almost embarrassed to choose him and I'm almost embarrassed to choose this country is the United this country is the United this country is the United Kingdom here are the reasons why number Kingdom here are the reasons why number Kingdom here are the reasons why number one it's familiar sure it's BAS one it's familiar sure it's BAS one it's familiar sure it's BAS basically like what if we moved and basically like what if we moved and basically like what if we moved and lived in Canada but all the buildings lived in Canada but all the buildings lived in Canada but all the buildings are old instead of new which is another are old instead of new which is another are old instead of new which is another reason like I was reason like I was reason like I was just Enchanted by the architecture in just Enchanted by the architecture in just Enchanted by the architecture in London and being there felt like oh man London and being there felt like oh man London and being there felt like oh man there's so much history here and yet there's so much history here and yet there's so much history here and yet it's also so familiar which is something it's also so familiar which is something it's also so familiar which is something that's pretty rare um because when I go that's pretty rare um because when I go that's pretty rare um because when I go to the states it feels familiar but to the states it feels familiar but to the states it feels familiar but there's no like old history there the there's no like old history there the there's no like old history there the big cities London outstanding big cities London outstanding big cities London outstanding Edinburgh stunning yeah the Edinburgh stunning yeah the Edinburgh stunning yeah the countryside oh I I I liked living in the countryside oh I I I liked living in the countryside oh I I I liked living in the city for a year oh we lived in the city city for a year oh we lived in the city city for a year oh we lived in the city for a decade now we want to go and we for a decade now we want to go and we for a decade now we want to go and we want to live in the you know English want to live in the you know English want to live in the you know English Countryside easy what if we didn't live Countryside easy what if we didn't live Countryside easy what if we didn't live in the English Countryside and that's in the English Countryside and that's in the English Countryside and that's why this is such a great choice three why this is such a great choice three why this is such a great choice three countries in one haters Wales Scotland countries in one haters Wales Scotland countries in one haters Wales Scotland and England oh we're just going to live and England oh we're just going to live and England oh we're just going to live on sky for another decade fine I'm into

on sky for another decade fine I'm into on sky for another decade fine I'm into it and then uh the accessibility like it and then uh the accessibility like it and then uh the accessibility like the reality is I need Amazon Prime m and the reality is I need Amazon Prime m and the reality is I need Amazon Prime m and as much as I loved Iceland like if as much as I loved Iceland like if as much as I loved Iceland like if something is needed and I don't I can't something is needed and I don't I can't something is needed and I don't I can't have it like that's not me I can't live have it like that's not me I can't live have it like that's not me I can't live you know at the top of a mountain where you know at the top of a mountain where you know at the top of a mountain where like what if my fish tank needs cleaning like what if my fish tank needs cleaning like what if my fish tank needs cleaning and I YouTube it question I can't Amazon and I YouTube it question I can't Amazon and I YouTube it question I can't Amazon Prime the fish cleaning detergent right Prime the fish cleaning detergent right Prime the fish cleaning detergent right I'm in trouble and then there's the lava I'm in trouble and then there's the lava I'm in trouble and then there's the lava well that's true you know every so often well that's true you know every so often well that's true you know every so often you might have to abandon your home y you might have to abandon your home y you might have to abandon your home y that you already abandoned to live in that you already abandoned to live in that you already abandoned to live in Iceland but now you can't even live in Iceland but now you can't even live in Iceland but now you can't even live in Iceland where you settled because Iceland where you settled because Iceland where you settled because explosions I'd put Scotland as an explosions I'd put Scotland as an explosions I'd put Scotland as an honorable mention for my list my top honorable mention for my list my top honorable mention for my list my top three uh we had such a great trip there three uh we had such a great trip there three uh we had such a great trip there oh we really did the I really detest oh we really did the I really detest oh we really did the I really detest this word but like The Vibes really this word but like The Vibes really this word but like The Vibes really Immaculate the food Immaculate the food Immaculate the food spectacular guys mutton is good like hot spectacular guys mutton is good like hot spectacular guys mutton is good like hot take mutton is haggus not bad into it take mutton is haggus not bad into it take mutton is haggus not bad into it yeah hey you mentioned boring Trends yeah hey you mentioned boring Trends yeah hey you mentioned boring Trends from other sectors for church social can from other sectors for church social can from other sectors for church social can you expand on that yeah and to be clear you expand on that yeah and to be clear you expand on that yeah and to be clear he said borrowing not boring Trends yeah he said borrowing not boring Trends yeah he said borrowing not boring Trends yeah so you know creativity is all about so you know creativity is all about so you know creativity is all about combination um when you get siloed in a combination um when you get siloed in a combination um when you get siloed in a subculture like church church creativity subculture like church church creativity subculture like church church creativity you're going to end up seeing the same you're going to end up seeing the same you're going to end up seeing the same creative combinations recycled over and creative combinations recycled over and creative combinations recycled over and over again that's just what happens it's over again that's just what happens it's over again that's just what happens it's why they say you become the combination why they say you become the combination why they say you become the combination of the five people closest to you of the five people closest to you of the five people closest to you whatever is close to you you end up whatever is close to you you end up whatever is close to you you end up using them and so for creativity I like

using them and so for creativity I like using them and so for creativity I like to purposely go to other industries that to purposely go to other industries that to purposely go to other industries that I I I have a lot my my passions are very I I I have a lot my my passions are very I I I have a lot my my passions are very eclectic and so I can go to something eclectic and so I can go to something eclectic and so I can go to something that I I care about um but I also look that I I care about um but I also look that I I care about um but I also look at industries that I don't have a at industries that I don't have a at industries that I don't have a personal interest in to try to find okay personal interest in to try to find okay personal interest in to try to find okay what in their Silo are they doing and what in their Silo are they doing and what in their Silo are they doing and I'll look for Creative combinations that I'll look for Creative combinations that I'll look for Creative combinations that don't exist in my own subculture and don't exist in my own subculture and don't exist in my own subculture and then I'll take those combinations and then I'll take those combinations and then I'll take those combinations and bring them into our sub uh subculture so bring them into our sub uh subculture so bring them into our sub uh subculture so here's an example of this if you go to here's an example of this if you go to here's an example of this if you go to my Instagram and you look through my my Instagram and you look through my my Instagram and you look through my recent Instagram reels you will see a recent Instagram reels you will see a recent Instagram reels you will see a certain format of post that has certain format of post that has certain format of post that has dramatically more views than the others dramatically more views than the others dramatically more views than the others and it has happened now I think four or and it has happened now I think four or and it has happened now I think four or five times where I've done this format five times where I've done this format five times where I've done this format of post and it has gotten you know of post and it has gotten you know of post and it has gotten you know 200,000 views compared to like 40,000 200,000 views compared to like 40,000 200,000 views compared to like 40,000 views that the other ones get and it was views that the other ones get and it was views that the other ones get and it was a very specific type of post that I saw a very specific type of post that I saw a very specific type of post that I saw on like you know business build your on like you know business build your on like you know business build your business bro social media and I was like business bro social media and I was like business bro social media and I was like oh it's basically where you have a oh it's basically where you have a oh it's basically where you have a really short reel it's like 8 seconds really short reel it's like 8 seconds really short reel it's like 8 seconds and it's basically a list Post in a reel and it's basically a list Post in a reel and it's basically a list Post in a reel so it's like you know five fonts that so it's like you know five fonts that so it's like you know five fonts that I'm using for churches this year and I'm using for churches this year and I'm using for churches this year and it's just like boom boom boom boom in it's just like boom boom boom boom in it's just like boom boom boom boom in Rapid succession I was like oh we do a Rapid succession I was like oh we do a Rapid succession I was like oh we do a lot of list post type content bullet lot of list post type content bullet lot of list post type content bullet post type content I can bring that over post type content I can bring that over post type content I can bring that over and it has worked exceptionally well and it has worked exceptionally well and it has worked exceptionally well because no one was really doing because no one was really doing because no one was really doing it it's also funny when you do something it it's also funny when you do something it it's also funny when you do something and then you see others starting to copy and then you see others starting to copy and then you see others starting to copy it in your subculture you know one of it in your subculture you know one of it in your subculture you know one of the things that I've done with my the things that I've done with my the things that I've done with my carousels is this big blocky text where carousels is this big blocky text where carousels is this big blocky text where we'll take you know here's the secret we we'll take you know here's the secret we we'll take you know here's the secret we take newos grotesque our brand font and

take newos grotesque our brand font and take newos grotesque our brand font and then in Photoshop I'll add a stroke of then in Photoshop I'll add a stroke of then in Photoshop I'll add a stroke of the exact same color of like 5 to 10 the exact same color of like 5 to 10 the exact same color of like 5 to 10 pixels depending on how big the the type pixels depending on how big the the type pixels depending on how big the the type is on the canvas and so it takes this is on the canvas and so it takes this is on the canvas and so it takes this font and it gives it like this like font and it gives it like this like font and it gives it like this like extra bold look like it's already the extra bold look like it's already the extra bold look like it's already the Bold weight and now it's like crazy bold Bold weight and now it's like crazy bold Bold weight and now it's like crazy bold and so people are always like what font and so people are always like what font and so people are always like what font are you using and I'm like well it's are you using and I'm like well it's are you using and I'm like well it's just this font but you have to add the just this font but you have to add the just this font but you have to add the stroke in Photoshop that's the secret stroke in Photoshop that's the secret stroke in Photoshop that's the secret and it's that high contrast big text on and it's that high contrast big text on and it's that high contrast big text on a colored background and nothing else as a colored background and nothing else as a colored background and nothing else as the cover of the carousel I'm starting the cover of the carousel I'm starting the cover of the carousel I'm starting to see it in so many other places in the to see it in so many other places in the to see it in so many other places in the church subculture why because people are church subculture why because people are church subculture why because people are seeing what we're doing like oh that got seeing what we're doing like oh that got seeing what we're doing like oh that got my attention I should replicate that and my attention I should replicate that and my attention I should replicate that and that's what happens right that's not a that's what happens right that's not a that's what happens right that's not a bad thing it's like if you like this bad thing it's like if you like this bad thing it's like if you like this shirt this crochet shirt Dandy delmare shirt this crochet shirt Dandy delmare shirt this crochet shirt Dandy delmare Los Angeles company like go buy it it's Los Angeles company like go buy it it's Los Angeles company like go buy it it's legit um like affordable not legit um like affordable not legit um like affordable not tremendously tremendously tremendously unaffordable so looking at other unaffordable so looking at other unaffordable so looking at other Industries is great for breaking out of Industries is great for breaking out of Industries is great for breaking out of that Silo getting new inspiration and that Silo getting new inspiration and that Silo getting new inspiration and finding those different creative finding those different creative finding those different creative combinations it's not like they're doing combinations it's not like they're doing combinations it's not like they're doing something that's never been done that's something that's never been done that's something that's never been done that's all creativity is just like we're going all creativity is just like we're going all creativity is just like we're going to take this thing and we're going to to take this thing and we're going to to take this thing and we're going to mix it with this thing yeah and so it's mix it with this thing yeah and so it's mix it with this thing yeah and so it's great to look elsewhere and if you're great to look elsewhere and if you're great to look elsewhere and if you're creative well if you're anyone you have creative well if you're anyone you have creative well if you're anyone you have your hobby like interests that are your hobby like interests that are your hobby like interests that are outside of your discipline for work like outside of your discipline for work like outside of your discipline for work like outside like your Instagram explore page outside like your Instagram explore page outside like your Instagram explore page is surely a little bit more than just is surely a little bit more than just is surely a little bit more than just shirtless menur cont like maybe you bake shirtless menur cont like maybe you bake shirtless menur cont like maybe you bake sourdough or maybe you're into specialty sourdough or maybe you're into specialty sourdough or maybe you're into specialty coffee or fashion or fragrances or coffee or fashion or fragrances or coffee or fashion or fragrances or whatever so you don't have to look too whatever so you don't have to look too whatever so you don't have to look too far you don't have to put a a whole lot far you don't have to put a a whole lot far you don't have to put a a whole lot of effort into like well what industry of effort into like well what industry of effort into like well what industry am I going to pick how am I going to

am I going to pick how am I going to am I going to pick how am I going to find what's going on in that industry find what's going on in that industry find what's going on in that industry well start with your Instagram explore well start with your Instagram explore well start with your Instagram explore page and see your other interests page and see your other interests page and see your other interests whether it's sourdough or coffee or whether it's sourdough or coffee or whether it's sourdough or coffee or fashion or fragrance and those posts fashion or fragrance and those posts fashion or fragrance and those posts that are showing up on your explore page that are showing up on your explore page that are showing up on your explore page are the posts that are getting pushed by are the posts that are getting pushed by are the posts that are getting pushed by the algorithm and so you'll be able to the algorithm and so you'll be able to the algorithm and so you'll be able to to see pretty quickly what and you'll to see pretty quickly what and you'll to see pretty quickly what and you'll see the diversity of it like in my see the diversity of it like in my see the diversity of it like in my explore page if I if you were to hold it explore page if I if you were to hold it explore page if I if you were to hold it a little bit far away from me where I a little bit far away from me where I a little bit far away from me where I couldn't exactly see the content but I couldn't exactly see the content but I couldn't exactly see the content but I could see the design of the post I could could see the design of the post I could could see the design of the post I could probably tell you what industry it's probably tell you what industry it's probably tell you what industry it's from just based off of how they look cuz from just based off of how they look cuz from just based off of how they look cuz each industry has its own complexion for each industry has its own complexion for each industry has its own complexion for each season and so this this you know each season and so this this you know each season and so this this you know heavy weighted font that I I I I agree heavy weighted font that I I I I agree heavy weighted font that I I I I agree with you in the church space I didn't with you in the church space I didn't with you in the church space I didn't see too many people doing before you see too many people doing before you see too many people doing before you were doing it and now you've been doing were doing it and now you've been doing were doing it and now you've been doing it for a while and it's been working now it for a while and it's been working now it for a while and it's been working now I've seeing a lot of people doing it I've seeing a lot of people doing it I've seeing a lot of people doing it like it's it's cyclical people will do like it's it's cyclical people will do like it's it's cyclical people will do it for a while the church space will it for a while the church space will it for a while the church space will look like that for a while and then look like that for a while and then look like that for a while and then it'll be on to the next thing so to that it'll be on to the next thing so to that it'll be on to the next thing so to that end um I went to my explor page trying end um I went to my explor page trying end um I went to my explor page trying to get inspiration but it was all just to get inspiration but it was all just to get inspiration but it was all just Shir men and I was like I don't know if Shir men and I was like I don't know if Shir men and I was like I don't know if I can bring this over right um yeah I I can bring this over right um yeah I I can bring this over right um yeah I think I I I am clearly too deep into the think I I I am clearly too deep into the think I I I am clearly too deep into the fitness uh it's was like why is everyone fitness uh it's was like why is everyone fitness uh it's was like why is everyone naked on say but there's no women so naked on say but there's no women so naked on say but there's no women so it's fine it's actually fine you need it's fine it's actually fine you need it's fine it's actually fine you need like a burner account like I need to like a burner account like I need to like a burner account like I need to reset on the explore page yeah imagine reset on the explore page yeah imagine reset on the explore page yeah imagine you could reset your algorithm there's you could reset your algorithm there's you could reset your algorithm there's just a master button just a reset start just a master button just a reset start just a master button just a reset start from scratch I don't know about that from scratch I don't know about that from scratch I don't know about that then the first time I started Tik Tok it then the first time I started Tik Tok it then the first time I started Tik Tok it was all hockey videos and like 4x4s cuz was all hockey videos and like 4x4s cuz was all hockey videos and like 4x4s cuz they're like you're a Canadian male and they're like you're a Canadian male and they're like you're a Canadian male and I was like this is awful um so my

I was like this is awful um so my I was like this is awful um so my explore page used to be just photos of explore page used to be just photos of explore page used to be just photos of beautiful places but that wasn't good beautiful places but that wasn't good beautiful places but that wasn't good for my wander lust right so then they for my wander lust right so then they for my wander lust right so then they replaced it with shirtless men which is replaced it with shirtless men which is replaced it with shirtless men which is not good for another type of lust of me not good for another type of lust of me not good for another type of lust of me lusting after I wish I had a body like lusting after I wish I had a body like lusting after I wish I had a body like that I'm not lusting after the men per that I'm not lusting after the men per that I'm not lusting after the men per se I'm lusting after if only I could se I'm lusting after if only I could se I'm lusting after if only I could have those levels of muscles but here's have those levels of muscles but here's have those levels of muscles but here's another good example of how I've done another good example of how I've done another good example of how I've done this in the church websites that we've this in the church websites that we've this in the church websites that we've been designing recently I've taken a ton been designing recently I've taken a ton been designing recently I've taken a ton of inspiration from fashion websites of inspiration from fashion websites of inspiration from fashion websites you're on those websites anyways right you're on those websites anyways right you're on those websites anyways right and what I started to notice with and what I started to notice with and what I started to notice with fashion websites is that it doesn't fashion websites is that it doesn't fashion websites is that it doesn't really matter like what brand none of really matter like what brand none of really matter like what brand none of them really have a brand like what most them really have a brand like what most them really have a brand like what most of them have countless examples and of them have countless examples and of them have countless examples and surely there are outliers usually with surely there are outliers usually with surely there are outliers usually with the big Brands like Target and GAP where the big Brands like Target and GAP where the big Brands like Target and GAP where their actual name super seeds the their actual name super seeds the their actual name super seeds the clothing but on like smaller designers clothing but on like smaller designers clothing but on like smaller designers and even on like designers of like you and even on like designers of like you and even on like designers of like you know the balenciagas or the Louis know the balenciagas or the Louis know the balenciagas or the Louis Vuitton what usually happens is it's Vuitton what usually happens is it's Vuitton what usually happens is it's like white background black sarap font like white background black sarap font like white background black sarap font and then Giant image containers that and then Giant image containers that and then Giant image containers that show people wearing the clothes because show people wearing the clothes because show people wearing the clothes because the point of the website is for you to the point of the website is for you to the point of the website is for you to say I could be that person wearing the say I could be that person wearing the say I could be that person wearing the clothes right so they don't want to clothes right so they don't want to clothes right so they don't want to elevate like the logo or their brand elevate like the logo or their brand elevate like the logo or their brand colors because like that's not what colors because like that's not what colors because like that's not what they're trying to as like inspire you they're trying to as like inspire you they're trying to as like inspire you with and motivate you with and so I was with and motivate you with and so I was with and motivate you with and so I was like that makes perfect sense for church like that makes perfect sense for church like that makes perfect sense for church websites like what is the church it's websites like what is the church it's websites like what is the church it's the people the heartbeat of your church the people the heartbeat of your church the people the heartbeat of your church the lifeblood is like the community and the lifeblood is like the community and the lifeblood is like the community and so we should just have really simp Le so we should just have really simp Le so we should just have really simp Le Church websites white backgrounds black

Church websites white backgrounds black Church websites white backgrounds black backgrounds with like a white or black backgrounds with like a white or black backgrounds with like a white or black font to pair simple siif and then just font to pair simple siif and then just font to pair simple siif and then just Big Image containers that we fill with Big Image containers that we fill with Big Image containers that we fill with photography this is also amazing because photography this is also amazing because photography this is also amazing because now your Church website will never look now your Church website will never look now your Church website will never look like somebody else's Church's website like somebody else's Church's website like somebody else's Church's website looks like you it's like you can have a looks like you it's like you can have a looks like you it's like you can have a black logo that says Balenciaga or black logo that says Balenciaga or black logo that says Balenciaga or Daniel Simmons or Cole buckon or acne Daniel Simmons or Cole buckon or acne Daniel Simmons or Cole buckon or acne Studios or our Legacy whatever it might Studios or our Legacy whatever it might Studios or our Legacy whatever it might be and it's just black serif text on a be and it's just black serif text on a be and it's just black serif text on a white background but the cloth for each white background but the cloth for each white background but the cloth for each of these Brands is going to be different of these Brands is going to be different of these Brands is going to be different and so like yes the template is almost and so like yes the template is almost and so like yes the template is almost identical but that doesn't matter identical but that doesn't matter identical but that doesn't matter because that's not what you're looking because that's not what you're looking because that's not what you're looking at and so that was something that I at and so that was something that I at and so that was something that I wasn't seeing in the church industry wasn't seeing in the church industry wasn't seeing in the church industry like the Church website space was just like the Church website space was just like the Church website space was just recycling the same creative combinations recycling the same creative combinations recycling the same creative combinations on I was like this isn't actually I on I was like this isn't actually I on I was like this isn't actually I think one what's what we can do like think one what's what we can do like think one what's what we can do like there's more creativity something new to there's more creativity something new to there's more creativity something new to be discovered but something that also be discovered but something that also be discovered but something that also aligns better with our Church's Mission aligns better with our Church's Mission aligns better with our Church's Mission and DNA and yeah okay I love this now and DNA and yeah okay I love this now and DNA and yeah okay I love this now we're talking about church websites we're talking about church websites we're talking about church websites which is great we stayed from the which is great we stayed from the which is great we stayed from the question we already answered that question we already answered that question we already answered that question we're on to something new now question we're on to something new now question we're on to something new now um what I love about that methodology um what I love about that methodology um what I love about that methodology from the fashion industry is their from the fashion industry is their from the fashion industry is their mission their vision is to get people to mission their vision is to get people to mission their vision is to get people to buy the clothes and so by deprioritizing buy the clothes and so by deprioritizing buy the clothes and so by deprioritizing the brand the logo and by prioritizing the brand the logo and by prioritizing the brand the logo and by prioritizing imagery of the clothes on people they imagery of the clothes on people they imagery of the clothes on people they are actively removing boundaries for you are actively removing boundaries for you are actively removing boundaries for you the consumer to take the next step which the consumer to take the next step which the consumer to take the next step which is buy the clothes they're prioritizing is buy the clothes they're prioritizing is buy the clothes they're prioritizing okay the pain point for a user when they okay the pain point for a user when they okay the pain point for a user when they are thinking about investing in this are thinking about investing in this are thinking about investing in this piece piece of clothing is and buying it piece piece of clothing is and buying it piece piece of clothing is and buying it online is is this going to fit me or is

online is is this going to fit me or is online is is this going to fit me or is this going to look good on me so they're this going to look good on me so they're this going to look good on me so they're prioritizing showing you I've noticed prioritizing showing you I've noticed prioritizing showing you I've noticed that a lot on fashion websites that I've that a lot on fashion websites that I've that a lot on fashion websites that I've been on lately like not just showing the been on lately like not just showing the been on lately like not just showing the clothes not just showing them on one clothes not just showing them on one clothes not just showing them on one model showing them on different models model showing them on different models model showing them on different models of different shapes different sizes of different shapes different sizes of different shapes different sizes different the photos are taken in different the photos are taken in different the photos are taken in different settings um to show the different settings um to show the different settings um to show the diversity of the cloth to give you diversity of the cloth to give you diversity of the cloth to give you confidence when you make that decision confidence when you make that decision confidence when you make that decision I'm going to like this or I I I'm going I'm going to like this or I I I'm going I'm going to like this or I I I'm going to bet that I'm going to like this the to bet that I'm going to like this the to bet that I'm going to like this the same thing is true in the church world same thing is true in the church world same thing is true in the church world when folks are engaging with your Church when folks are engaging with your Church when folks are engaging with your Church website especially folks who are first website especially folks who are first website especially folks who are first time visitors who have yet to visit you time visitors who have yet to visit you time visitors who have yet to visit you in person but they're visiting you in person but they're visiting you in person but they're visiting you online first they are looking to your online first they are looking to your online first they are looking to your website to see what your church looks website to see what your church looks website to see what your church looks like to evaluate can I or should I take like to evaluate can I or should I take like to evaluate can I or should I take this next step I see this little thing this next step I see this little thing this next step I see this little thing popping out saying join us plan your popping out saying join us plan your popping out saying join us plan your visit and I see them asking me to and I visit and I see them asking me to and I visit and I see them asking me to and I want to go to church that's why I'm here want to go to church that's why I'm here want to go to church that's why I'm here that's why I'm on the website but how am that's why I'm on the website but how am that's why I'm on the website but how am I going to know that when I walk in I'm I going to know that when I walk in I'm I going to know that when I walk in I'm going to fit in and so by prioritizing going to fit in and so by prioritizing going to fit in and so by prioritizing images of real people in your real space images of real people in your real space images of real people in your real space that gives firsttime visitors the that gives firsttime visitors the that gives firsttime visitors the confidence to take that next step from confidence to take that next step from confidence to take that next step from just visiting your website to maybe then just visiting your website to maybe then just visiting your website to maybe then filling out the plan of visit thing than filling out the plan of visit thing than filling out the plan of visit thing than to actually stepping through your doors to actually stepping through your doors to actually stepping through your doors and and coming to visit you you by and and coming to visit you you by and and coming to visit you you by prioritizing real pictures of your space prioritizing real pictures of your space prioritizing real pictures of your space and your people you have removed and your people you have removed and your people you have removed barriers removed boundaries for them to barriers removed boundaries for them to barriers removed boundaries for them to come and worship with you and there's a come and worship with you and there's a come and worship with you and there's a big practical element of this too which big practical element of this too which big practical element of this too which is you can communicate in an instant is you can communicate in an instant is you can communicate in an instant with a photo what would take paragraphs with a photo what would take paragraphs with a photo what would take paragraphs worth of text a picture is worth a th worth of text a picture is worth a th worth of text a picture is worth a th words you've got an instant to make a words you've got an instant to make a words you've got an instant to make a good first impression that first good first impression that first good first impression that first impression can be made with a beautiful

impression can be made with a beautiful impression can be made with a beautiful photo and it doesn't matter what space photo and it doesn't matter what space photo and it doesn't matter what space your church meets in it doesn't matter your church meets in it doesn't matter your church meets in it doesn't matter what your lighting is like a beautiful what your lighting is like a beautiful what your lighting is like a beautiful photo can be taken of your Church's photo can be taken of your Church's photo can be taken of your Church's community in your existing space this community in your existing space this community in your existing space this gets back to congruency you don't need gets back to congruency you don't need gets back to congruency you don't need to put on you don't need to posture and to put on you don't need to posture and to put on you don't need to posture and pretend your church is something pretend your church is something pretend your church is something different you can take photos of that different you can take photos of that different you can take photos of that happening and it feels real yeah and happening and it feels real yeah and happening and it feels real yeah and then for the people that are in your then for the people that are in your then for the people that are in your church when they go to your website what church when they go to your website what church when they go to your website what do they see they see them yeah when they do they see they see them yeah when they do they see they see them yeah when they think about what our church is they think about what our church is they think about what our church is they don't think about the logo they don't don't think about the logo they don't don't think about the logo they don't think about the colors they don't think think about the colors they don't think think about the colors they don't think about the font that isn't even on their about the font that isn't even on their about the font that isn't even on their radar they might think about the radar they might think about the radar they might think about the building which is why that photo might building which is why that photo might building which is why that photo might make sense on the homepage but more than make sense on the homepage but more than make sense on the homepage but more than that they think about the church oh the that they think about the church oh the that they think about the church oh the people I sit next to the people that I people I sit next to the people that I people I sit next to the people that I go to church with the pastor the worship go to church with the pastor the worship go to church with the pastor the worship team the leadership it's all the people team the leadership it's all the people team the leadership it's all the people for every audience anyway we got on a for every audience anyway we got on a for every audience anyway we got on a bit of a website tangent that's so good bit of a website tangent that's so good bit of a website tangent that's so good let's get on to the the poolside tangent let's get on to the the poolside tangent let's get on to the the poolside tangent what's your favorite poolside drink so what's your favorite poolside drink so what's your favorite poolside drink so we do do consume alcohol Alexander and I we do do consume alcohol Alexander and I we do do consume alcohol Alexander and I not everyone at Pro Church tools does I not everyone at Pro Church tools does I not everyone at Pro Church tools does I didn't until I started working at pro- didn't until I started working at pro- didn't until I started working at pro- church tools that's not is not your church tools that's not is not your church tools that's not is not your fault I was just I was just becoming my fault I was just I was just becoming my fault I was just I was just becoming my own man becoming an adult this what own man becoming an adult this what own man becoming an adult this what happens when you hire 23 year olds right happens when you hire 23 year olds right happens when you hire 23 year olds right like you know things change um I would like you know things change um I would like you know things change um I would describe us as very light drinkers very describe us as very light drinkers very describe us as very light drinkers very casual to that end last year we were in casual to that end last year we were in casual to that end last year we were in the Dominican Republic on our annual the Dominican Republic on our annual the Dominican Republic on our annual Retreat and the hospitality company that Retreat and the hospitality company that Retreat and the hospitality company that we are with this year we were with last we are with this year we were with last we are with this year we were with last year they were outstanding volto v o l a year they were outstanding volto v o l a year they were outstanding volto v o l a l t l t l t o and at the end of the year they showed

o and at the end of the year they showed o and at the end of the year they showed me the bill for the food and the drink me the bill for the food and the drink me the bill for the food and the drink and they're like yeah you like didn't and they're like yeah you like didn't and they're like yeah you like didn't drink at all and I was like really like drink at all and I was like really like drink at all and I was like really like I thought we put in work in work like I thought we put in work in work like I thought we put in work in work like relative to normal like when I'm at home relative to normal like when I'm at home relative to normal like when I'm at home I just never I just never drink he have I just never I just never drink he have I just never I just never drink he have a glass when you go for dinner or a glass when you go for dinner or a glass when you go for dinner or whatever with friends like oh yeah one whatever with friends like oh yeah one whatever with friends like oh yeah one thing one drink um that's about it so thing one drink um that's about it so thing one drink um that's about it so what do I like poolside crispy beer mhm what do I like poolside crispy beer mhm what do I like poolside crispy beer mhm pilsner pale ale a kch yeah ice cold big pilsner pale ale a kch yeah ice cold big pilsner pale ale a kch yeah ice cold big F the uh Dominican beer they got here is F the uh Dominican beer they got here is F the uh Dominican beer they got here is called Presidente well and this is it called Presidente well and this is it called Presidente well and this is it like for anyone who's listened to this like for anyone who's listened to this like for anyone who's listened to this show for any any amount of time you'll show for any any amount of time you'll show for any any amount of time you'll know about me that I'm a very seasonal know about me that I'm a very seasonal know about me that I'm a very seasonal you and I both very seasonal eaters and you and I both very seasonal eaters and you and I both very seasonal eaters and Drinkers and livers I no pun intendo Drinkers and livers I no pun intendo Drinkers and livers I no pun intendo yeah I um I drink seasonally in the way yeah I um I drink seasonally in the way yeah I um I drink seasonally in the way that I will have a drink poolside that I that I will have a drink poolside that I that I will have a drink poolside that I would not have in just about any other would not have in just about any other would not have in just about any other circumstance so I remember like circumstance so I remember like circumstance so I remember like yesterday last year when those local yesterday last year when those local yesterday last year when those local Dominican beers came out those Dominican beers came out those Dominican beers came out those presidentes or whatever I was like I was presidentes or whatever I was like I was presidentes or whatever I was like I was eager to have one and I enjoyed every eager to have one and I enjoyed every eager to have one and I enjoyed every sip of it and I think it was only sip of it and I think it was only sip of it and I think it was only because I was by the pool in the because I was by the pool in the because I was by the pool in the Dominican so yeah poolside anything cold Dominican so yeah poolside anything cold Dominican so yeah poolside anything cold anything fruity anything with bubbles anything fruity anything with bubbles anything fruity anything with bubbles like I'm just as long as it's cold and like I'm just as long as it's cold and like I'm just as long as it's cold and makes me feel like makes me feel like makes me feel like summer I'm here for it for cocktails I'm summer I'm here for it for cocktails I'm summer I'm here for it for cocktails I'm a big mojito fan uh there's no alcohol a big mojito fan uh there's no alcohol a big mojito fan uh there's no alcohol in this one because I do not like to in this one because I do not like to in this one because I do not like to have a drink well while have a drink well while have a drink well while podcasting uh I'm a bit of a lightweight podcasting uh I'm a bit of a lightweight podcasting uh I'm a bit of a lightweight where I just feel alcohol uh so I got to

where I just feel alcohol uh so I got to where I just feel alcohol uh so I got to Sharp because we don't drink it right Sharp because we don't drink it right Sharp because we don't drink it right there's no practice uh mules pina there's no practice uh mules pina there's no practice uh mules pina coladas I'm a tequila and gin fan myself coladas I'm a tequila and gin fan myself coladas I'm a tequila and gin fan myself when it comes to like the Liquors so when it comes to like the Liquors so when it comes to like the Liquors so like I love um like Mexican cocktails like I love um like Mexican cocktails like I love um like Mexican cocktails you put a Mezcal in something you put a you put a Mezcal in something you put a you put a Mezcal in something you put a tequila in it you make it a bit spicy tequila in it you make it a bit spicy tequila in it you make it a bit spicy you throw in some Citrus I'm going to you throw in some Citrus I'm going to you throw in some Citrus I'm going to drink it I'm going to be a happy man drink it I'm going to be a happy man drink it I'm going to be a happy man lots of uh r Cokes going on this week lots of uh r Cokes going on this week lots of uh r Cokes going on this week and that is not my drink choice no no no and that is not my drink choice no no no and that is not my drink choice no no no which is you know we're talking about which is you know we're talking about which is you know we're talking about all things that we do like that's good all things that we do like that's good all things that we do like that's good like I would just never go for that yeah like I would just never go for that yeah like I would just never go for that yeah not for me um and then you know you not for me um and then you know you not for me um and then you know you can't go wrong with a flavored soda can't go wrong with a flavored soda can't go wrong with a flavored soda water for those that are not uh going to water for those that are not uh going to water for those that are not uh going to be drinking alcohol either for health be drinking alcohol either for health be drinking alcohol either for health reasons theological reasons whatever reasons theological reasons whatever reasons theological reasons whatever reason you might be we support it uh reason you might be we support it uh reason you might be we support it uh lacroy has a new mojito flavor no way lacroy has a new mojito flavor no way lacroy has a new mojito flavor no way have you had it of course not no we're have you had it of course not no we're have you had it of course not no we're in Canada yeah uh they have a new Beach in Canada yeah uh they have a new Beach in Canada yeah uh they have a new Beach Plum flavor as well little play on words Plum flavor as well little play on words Plum flavor as well little play on words and then I've always loved their passion and then I've always loved their passion and then I've always loved their passion fruit and tangerine flavors Alex fruit and tangerine flavors Alex fruit and tangerine flavors Alex famously inexplicably big fan of the key famously inexplicably big fan of the key famously inexplicably big fan of the key lime flavor which I find lime flavor which I find lime flavor which I find atrocious you know I've had some time to atrocious you know I've had some time to atrocious you know I've had some time to reflect on that thank you and it's I reflect on that thank you and it's I reflect on that thank you and it's I think it's one of those things where I'm think it's one of those things where I'm think it's one of those things where I'm ready to admit that it's ready to admit that it's ready to admit that it's not it's not actually good in a not it's not actually good in a not it's not actually good in a dignified way okay but it's good in kind dignified way okay but it's good in kind dignified way okay but it's good in kind of like uh silly goofy mood kind of way of like uh silly goofy mood kind of way of like uh silly goofy mood kind of way I don't want a Savory flavor in a soda I don't want a Savory flavor in a soda I don't want a Savory flavor in a soda water essence of pie essence of pie water essence of pie essence of pie water essence of pie essence of pie speaking of drinking I so rarely drink speaking of drinking I so rarely drink speaking of drinking I so rarely drink beer um but last week we went out for

beer um but last week we went out for beer um but last week we went out for for lunch to the brewery that's actually for lunch to the brewery that's actually for lunch to the brewery that's actually below our office and they had two beers below our office and they had two beers below our office and they had two beers that were like they were just like that were like they were just like that were like they were just like yelling at me these beers like the yelling at me these beers like the yelling at me these beers like the flavor profiles I I just like I needed flavor profiles I I just like I needed flavor profiles I I just like I needed to try them and they were both hazy ipas to try them and they were both hazy ipas to try them and they were both hazy ipas but one of them was but one of them was but one of them was guava orange maybe but and key liim and guava orange maybe but and key liim and guava orange maybe but and key liim and I never had a beer with Keim in it and I never had a beer with Keim in it and I never had a beer with Keim in it and it came and these were aren't tasting it came and these were aren't tasting it came and these were aren't tasting notes these are like um like fruit notes these are like um like fruit notes these are like um like fruit additives oh yeah and the key liim came additives oh yeah and the key liim came additives oh yeah and the key liim came through like crazy and it was a real through like crazy and it was a real through like crazy and it was a real trip but it was very good yeah I I I'm trip but it was very good yeah I I I'm trip but it was very good yeah I I I'm supportive of that yeah I'd be supportive of that yeah I'd be supportive of that yeah I'd be interested in that moving on from the interested in that moving on from the interested in that moving on from the drinks back to some church material long drinks back to some church material long drinks back to some church material long time listener first time texter I have a time listener first time texter I have a time listener first time texter I have a quick question about cameras I know you quick question about cameras I know you quick question about cameras I know you just put out that awesome awesome list just put out that awesome awesome list just put out that awesome awesome list of best camera for churches for 2024 of best camera for churches for 2024 of best camera for churches for 2024 find that on YouTube but I'm not sure find that on YouTube but I'm not sure find that on YouTube but I'm not sure which one is the best for us we're which one is the best for us we're which one is the best for us we're multicampus church with the same multicampus church with the same multicampus church with the same messaging material for all campuses we messaging material for all campuses we messaging material for all campuses we pre-record each week we currently use a pre-record each week we currently use a pre-record each week we currently use a Sony camcorder into uh AOS ninja ad Sony camcorder into uh AOS ninja ad Sony camcorder into uh AOS ninja ad adamos to an ndi bird dog which is in adamos to an ndi bird dog which is in adamos to an ndi bird dog which is in fed into a vmix where we record two fed into a vmix where we record two fed into a vmix where we record two versions one with lower thirds one versions one with lower thirds one versions one with lower thirds one without we want to up update the camera without we want to up update the camera without we want to up update the camera we use do we go broadcast or Cinema we use do we go broadcast or Cinema we use do we go broadcast or Cinema category we don't need live streaming category we don't need live streaming category we don't need live streaming features because we don't stream on features because we don't stream on features because we don't stream on Sundays but we also don't need crazy Sundays but we also don't need crazy Sundays but we also don't need crazy resolution what are your thoughts resolution what are your thoughts resolution what are your thoughts sidebar you know I have been been pretty sidebar you know I have been been pretty sidebar you know I have been been pretty silent on Church's not live streaming silent on Church's not live streaming silent on Church's not live streaming for a couple of years because after and for a couple of years because after and for a couple of years because after and during the pandemic it was so obvious during the pandemic it was so obvious during the pandemic it was so obvious that we had to find ways to support that we had to find ways to support that we had to find ways to support churches getting into live streaming I

churches getting into live streaming I churches getting into live streaming I felt like you know what I have my belief felt like you know what I have my belief felt like you know what I have my belief here it seems like 90% of churches are here it seems like 90% of churches are here it seems like 90% of churches are going to go another way so I'm not just going to go another way so I'm not just going to go another way so I'm not just going to keep like pushing my belief going to keep like pushing my belief going to keep like pushing my belief sure guys I'm back on the live streaming sure guys I'm back on the live streaming sure guys I'm back on the live streaming is not a thing and I'm starting to see is not a thing and I'm starting to see is not a thing and I'm starting to see it pick up people are starting to be it pick up people are starting to be it pick up people are starting to be like why are we doing this is this like why are we doing this is this like why are we doing this is this really like the best way to serve our really like the best way to serve our really like the best way to serve our people and the people we're trying to people and the people we're trying to people and the people we're trying to reach ah I'm starting to feel like the reach ah I'm starting to feel like the reach ah I'm starting to feel like the fire's coming back ready to record fire's coming back ready to record fire's coming back ready to record another video why your church shouldn't another video why your church shouldn't another video why your church shouldn't be shouldn't be live stream why your be shouldn't be live stream why your be shouldn't be live stream why your church still still we already have why church still still we already have why church still still we already have why church still shouldn't be live streaming church still shouldn't be live streaming church still shouldn't be live streaming so an easy way to differentiate between so an easy way to differentiate between so an easy way to differentiate between these two categories of cameras that these two categories of cameras that these two categories of cameras that this person mentioned in their question this person mentioned in their question this person mentioned in their question Cinema category and then the broadcast Cinema category and then the broadcast Cinema category and then the broadcast category is that Cinema cameras are category is that Cinema cameras are category is that Cinema cameras are going to prioritize image quality while going to prioritize image quality while going to prioritize image quality while the broadcast category is going to the broadcast category is going to the broadcast category is going to prioritize live broadcasting features so prioritize live broadcasting features so prioritize live broadcasting features so it's important important here to not it's important important here to not it's important important here to not equate Cinema cameras with resolution equate Cinema cameras with resolution equate Cinema cameras with resolution the reason this person was hesitant to the reason this person was hesitant to the reason this person was hesitant to go with a cinema camera is like I don't go with a cinema camera is like I don't go with a cinema camera is like I don't we we don't need 4K we don't need we we don't need 4K we don't need we we don't need 4K we don't need 8K resolution is not really a selling 8K resolution is not really a selling 8K resolution is not really a selling feature when it comes to overall image feature when it comes to overall image feature when it comes to overall image quality as much as people think like in quality as much as people think like in quality as much as people think like in terms of what actually contributes to a terms of what actually contributes to a terms of what actually contributes to a greatl looking image we always think of greatl looking image we always think of greatl looking image we always think of like oh I mean the more resolution the like oh I mean the more resolution the like oh I mean the more resolution the better right that's not true dynamic better right that's not true dynamic better right that's not true dynamic range is going to matter more and then range is going to matter more and then range is going to matter more and then color accuracy and just like the colors color accuracy and just like the colors color accuracy and just like the colors themselves is going to matter a lot more themselves is going to matter a lot more themselves is going to matter a lot more and then when it comes to what and then when it comes to what and then when it comes to what translates to a live stream resolution translates to a live stream resolution translates to a live stream resolution is going to be something one of the is going to be something one of the is going to be something one of the first things that gets degraded in first things that gets degraded in first things that gets degraded in compression that level of sharpness I

compression that level of sharpness I compression that level of sharpness I mean well we got to get this stream um mean well we got to get this stream um mean well we got to get this stream um to uh camera card we're going to keep to uh camera card we're going to keep to uh camera card we're going to keep every pixel but now we're going to edit every pixel but now we're going to edit every pixel but now we're going to edit this and we're going to have to export this and we're going to have to export this and we're going to have to export it well we got to make this file size it well we got to make this file size it well we got to make this file size smaller that resolution starting to not smaller that resolution starting to not smaller that resolution starting to not be quite is sharp we got to upload this be quite is sharp we got to upload this be quite is sharp we got to upload this to YouTube YouTube's going to add that to YouTube YouTube's going to add that to YouTube YouTube's going to add that extra layer of compression the dynamic extra layer of compression the dynamic extra layer of compression the dynamic range doesn't get affected right the range doesn't get affected right the range doesn't get affected right the colors might get affected if you're colors might get affected if you're colors might get affected if you're using the right export settings they using the right export settings they using the right export settings they also will not be affected and so really also will not be affected and so really also will not be affected and so really it comes down to what do you care about it comes down to what do you care about it comes down to what do you care about you want to upgrade your camera why you want to upgrade your camera why you want to upgrade your camera why presumably image quality because you presumably image quality because you presumably image quality because you mentioned it not being live broadcasting mentioned it not being live broadcasting mentioned it not being live broadcasting features so to me then cinema camera is features so to me then cinema camera is features so to me then cinema camera is the way to go uh we have a full 24 page the way to go uh we have a full 24 page the way to go uh we have a full 24 page PDF uh go to prch tools.com under the PDF uh go to prch tools.com under the PDF uh go to prch tools.com under the resources section you can find that and resources section you can find that and resources section you can find that and download it uh for this church the Sony download it uh for this church the Sony download it uh for this church the Sony fx3 the Sony fx30 are both outstanding fx3 the Sony fx30 are both outstanding fx3 the Sony fx30 are both outstanding options we are recording with two fx3s options we are recording with two fx3s options we are recording with two fx3s right now the side angle that I'm right now the side angle that I'm right now the side angle that I'm pointing at now and then the side angle pointing at now and then the side angle pointing at now and then the side angle Alex is pointing at now so those are Alex is pointing at now so those are Alex is pointing at now so those are great options they're around 1,800 bucks great options they're around 1,800 bucks great options they're around 1,800 bucks outstanding for long form video outstanding for long form video outstanding for long form video recording uh the fx3 is kind of the Big recording uh the fx3 is kind of the Big recording uh the fx3 is kind of the Big Brother of the Brother of the Brother of the fx30 uh it's just fullframe m so it's fx30 uh it's just fullframe m so it's fx30 uh it's just fullframe m so it's going to have better low light going to have better low light going to have better low light performance and will provide more performance and will provide more performance and will provide more lensing options um just because of its lensing options um just because of its lensing options um just because of its wider uh but but for most churches wider uh but but for most churches wider uh but but for most churches that's just not going to be that that that's just not going to be that that that's just not going to be that that really small camera bodies like really really small camera bodies like really really small camera bodies like really comfortable form factors if you're

comfortable form factors if you're comfortable form factors if you're shooting handheld or whatever like shooting handheld or whatever like shooting handheld or whatever like really comfy cameras yeah but on the really comfy cameras yeah but on the really comfy cameras yeah but on the other hand if you're just going to set other hand if you're just going to set other hand if you're just going to set up the camera on a tripod and just let up the camera on a tripod and just let up the camera on a tripod and just let it be you know the Blackmagic cameras it be you know the Blackmagic cameras it be you know the Blackmagic cameras are still going to be awesome for this are still going to be awesome for this are still going to be awesome for this even though they're called Studio even though they're called Studio even though they're called Studio cameras and they have broadcasting cameras and they have broadcasting cameras and they have broadcasting features the image quality on these is features the image quality on these is features the image quality on these is going to be great the Blackmagic pocket going to be great the Blackmagic pocket going to be great the Blackmagic pocket 6K awesome for a more hybrid option the 6K awesome for a more hybrid option the 6K awesome for a more hybrid option the Blackmagic Studio 4K or Studio 6K Blackmagic Studio 4K or Studio 6K Blackmagic Studio 4K or Studio 6K cameras they're going to give you some cameras they're going to give you some cameras they're going to give you some of those features for like broadcasting of those features for like broadcasting of those features for like broadcasting which might be useful even if you're not which might be useful even if you're not which might be useful even if you're not going live it can still be useful like going live it can still be useful like going live it can still be useful like to see tally light to know yeah we are to see tally light to know yeah we are to see tally light to know yeah we are recording that red light that's going on recording that red light that's going on recording that red light that's going on um it might have some of the ex um the um it might have some of the ex um the um it might have some of the ex um the cabling options that you need to go into cabling options that you need to go into cabling options that you need to go into the existing interfaces that you're the existing interfaces that you're the existing interfaces that you're already using but the image quality is already using but the image quality is already using but the image quality is still going to be great manufacturers still going to be great manufacturers still going to be great manufacturers know that we care about resolution U know that we care about resolution U know that we care about resolution U that's why they're putting it in the that's why they're putting it in the that's why they're putting it in the names of these cameras they don't go the names of these cameras they don't go the names of these cameras they don't go the black magic 13 stop Studio camera they black magic 13 stop Studio camera they black magic 13 stop Studio camera they say the black magic Studio 6K cuz o 6K say the black magic Studio 6K cuz o 6K say the black magic Studio 6K cuz o 6K instead of 4K so I understand why we instead of 4K so I understand why we instead of 4K so I understand why we kind of fall for the resolution trap but kind of fall for the resolution trap but kind of fall for the resolution trap but uh in the end of the day it's probably uh in the end of the day it's probably uh in the end of the day it's probably not worth thinking about too much all not worth thinking about too much all not worth thinking about too much all right back from church uh from church right back from church uh from church right back from church uh from church back to Fashion again we were talking back to Fashion again we were talking back to Fashion again we were talking about fashion earlier fashion websites about fashion earlier fashion websites about fashion earlier fashion websites now Fashion on the lower half of your now Fashion on the lower half of your now Fashion on the lower half of your body what are your go-to jeans Brands so body what are your go-to jeans Brands so body what are your go-to jeans Brands so I have three here these are the three I have three here these are the three I have three here these are the three pairs of jeans that I wear the first is pairs of jeans that I wear the first is pairs of jeans that I wear the first is going to be the I mean Levis are great going to be the I mean Levis are great going to be the I mean Levis are great oh are they I mean so many great options oh are they I mean so many great options oh are they I mean so many great options the problem with Levis is like they've the problem with Levis is like they've the problem with Levis is like they've kind of kind of kind of changed everyone wants vintage Levis the changed everyone wants vintage Levis the changed everyone wants vintage Levis the new ones they don't you know hit quite new ones they don't you know hit quite new ones they don't you know hit quite the same just like everything nowadays

the same just like everything nowadays the same just like everything nowadays they don't make them like they used to they don't make them like they used to they don't make them like they used to right so I I go to new brands because right so I I go to new brands because right so I I go to new brands because they can't make it like they used to they can't make it like they used to they can't make it like they used to because right they're making it for the because right they're making it for the because right they're making it for the first time they making it like they they first time they making it like they they first time they making it like they they they start to so uh our Legacy which is they start to so uh our Legacy which is they start to so uh our Legacy which is a Swedish brand they have a cut of jeans a Swedish brand they have a cut of jeans a Swedish brand they have a cut of jeans called the third cut which is a straight called the third cut which is a straight called the third cut which is a straight cut these are all kind of actually cut these are all kind of actually cut these are all kind of actually they're they're not all straight cut but they're they're not all straight cut but they're they're not all straight cut but that one is love that um acne Studios is that one is love that um acne Studios is that one is love that um acne Studios is probably my favorite um clothing company probably my favorite um clothing company probably my favorite um clothing company so they label their jeans and the cut of so they label their jeans and the cut of so they label their jeans and the cut of the jeans based on year so the 1991's the jeans based on year so the 1991's the jeans based on year so the 1991's are relaxed fit I have a bunch of those are relaxed fit I have a bunch of those are relaxed fit I have a bunch of those the 2003s are a straight fit love those the 2003s are a straight fit love those the 2003s are a straight fit love those and the 1996 are kind of a straight slim and the 1996 are kind of a straight slim and the 1996 are kind of a straight slim and I have a few of those as well uh and and I have a few of those as well uh and and I have a few of those as well uh and then this new pair of jeans that I got then this new pair of jeans that I got then this new pair of jeans that I got this is going to be the cheapest pair on this is going to be the cheapest pair on this is going to be the cheapest pair on the list still not cheap relative to the list still not cheap relative to the list still not cheap relative to maybe a Lis um but for something like maybe a Lis um but for something like maybe a Lis um but for something like jeans what's so nice about jeans is like jeans what's so nice about jeans is like jeans what's so nice about jeans is like you only need a few pairs if there's any you only need a few pairs if there's any you only need a few pairs if there's any item of clothing that you're going to item of clothing that you're going to item of clothing that you're going to invest cash into like if you find that invest cash into like if you find that invest cash into like if you find that pair of denim that like fits you well pair of denim that like fits you well pair of denim that like fits you well that's an easy one that's worth saving that's an easy one that's worth saving that's an easy one that's worth saving up for uh I believe this is an English up for uh I believe this is an English up for uh I believe this is an English brand and they are called about blank brand and they are called about blank brand and they are called about blank about blank and they have a straight leg about blank and they have a straight leg about blank and they have a straight leg um beautiful blue wash that they uh um beautiful blue wash that they uh um beautiful blue wash that they uh recently dropped had to cop problem with recently dropped had to cop problem with recently dropped had to cop problem with jeans is like the waste just means jeans is like the waste just means jeans is like the waste just means nothing like the number so like acne nothing like the number so like acne nothing like the number so like acne 1996 I wear like a 1996 I wear like a 1996 I wear like a 32 acne 2003 I wear a 32 acne 2003 I wear a 32 acne 2003 I wear a 29 acne 1991 I wear a 26 no way

29 acne 1991 I wear a 26 no way 29 acne 1991 I wear a 26 no way they're's making stuff up at that point they're's making stuff up at that point they're's making stuff up at that point it's so silly too because like for men's it's so silly too because like for men's it's so silly too because like for men's clothing the number represents like clothing the number represents like clothing the number represents like literally inches so what are we doing literally inches so what are we doing literally inches so what are we doing apparently not how is how how are you apparently not how is how how are you apparently not how is how how are you how is there a 6in disparity between how is there a 6in disparity between how is there a 6in disparity between jeans for you from the same company jeans for you from the same company jeans for you from the same company about blank they just have small medium about blank they just have small medium about blank they just have small medium large okay okay so luckily I got them large okay okay so luckily I got them large okay okay so luckily I got them great right out of the box but that was great right out of the box but that was great right out of the box but that was luck and then our Legacy they have the luck and then our Legacy they have the luck and then our Legacy they have the uh the European sizing so it's like are uh the European sizing so it's like are uh the European sizing so it's like are you a 41 a 42 a 43 a 44 I'm like why are you a 41 a 42 a 43 a 44 I'm like why are you a 41 a 42 a 43 a 44 I'm like why are we starting at 41 yeah so I actually we starting at 41 yeah so I actually we starting at 41 yeah so I actually don't remember what size I am from our don't remember what size I am from our don't remember what size I am from our Legacy off the cuff but for reference I Legacy off the cuff but for reference I Legacy off the cuff but for reference I am 58 160 right now good thing we have a am 58 160 right now good thing we have a am 58 160 right now good thing we have a good tailor that's right our guy we how good tailor that's right our guy we how good tailor that's right our guy we how yes you went to him for the first time yes you went to him for the first time yes you went to him for the first time how went I needed some some pants hemmed how went I needed some some pants hemmed how went I needed some some pants hemmed for our Oscars party let's go and uh for our Oscars party let's go and uh for our Oscars party let's go and uh told him that told him that I was told him that told him that I was told him that told him that I was referred to by Brady he says Ah that's a referred to by Brady he says Ah that's a referred to by Brady he says Ah that's a good recommendation so uh met Ahmed nice good recommendation so uh met Ahmed nice good recommendation so uh met Ahmed nice guy so we'll see what our relationship guy so we'll see what our relationship guy so we'll see what our relationship looks like me and Ahmed see see how many looks like me and Ahmed see see how many looks like me and Ahmed see see how many uh clothes he's going to be tailoring of uh clothes he's going to be tailoring of uh clothes he's going to be tailoring of mine so far we're just starting you know mine so far we're just starting you know mine so far we're just starting you know easy I mean you want to ease into it you easy I mean you want to ease into it you easy I mean you want to ease into it you want to ease into it so we'll see maybe want to ease into it so we'll see maybe want to ease into it so we'll see maybe he'll be uh maybe he'll be Heming my our he'll be uh maybe he'll be Heming my our he'll be uh maybe he'll be Heming my our Legacy third Cuts oh oh hello well the Legacy third Cuts oh oh hello well the Legacy third Cuts oh oh hello well the acne 1991's that's your birth year right acne 1991's that's your birth year right acne 1991's that's your birth year right yeah do they have 93s yeah do they have 93s yeah do they have 93s no 96 I mean a shame Baby G he's like no 96 I mean a shame Baby G he's like no 96 I mean a shame Baby G he's like what he's he's like 19 what he's he's like 19 what he's he's like 19 yeah 2003 next question I'm starting to yeah 2003 next question I'm starting to yeah 2003 next question I'm starting to grab clips from our live stream to post

grab clips from our live stream to post grab clips from our live stream to post to our reals format wanting to get a to our reals format wanting to get a to our reals format wanting to get a couple weeks ahead of schedule so I can couple weeks ahead of schedule so I can couple weeks ahead of schedule so I can have plenty to post one thing that I have plenty to post one thing that I have plenty to post one thing that I have run into is the quality of the live have run into is the quality of the live have run into is the quality of the live stream to videos it's not horrible but I stream to videos it's not horrible but I stream to videos it's not horrible but I wish it was better are there any tips to wish it was better are there any tips to wish it was better are there any tips to making the video look better in post or making the video look better in post or making the video look better in post or should I not let that stop me so if you should I not let that stop me so if you should I not let that stop me so if you can you'd want to record a copy of the can you'd want to record a copy of the can you'd want to record a copy of the service direct to a card on a drive and service direct to a card on a drive and service direct to a card on a drive and then use that instead of ripping the then use that instead of ripping the then use that instead of ripping the live stream instead of the live stream live stream instead of the live stream live stream instead of the live stream which is going to go from the camera and which is going to go from the camera and which is going to go from the camera and then it's going to degrade the amount of then it's going to degrade the amount of then it's going to degrade the amount of data in the file to get it online to data in the file to get it online to data in the file to get it online to encode it to get it online you're then encode it to get it online you're then encode it to get it online you're then going to store that and you're going to going to store that and you're going to going to store that and you're going to download that encoded compressed version download that encoded compressed version download that encoded compressed version to then re-export another time so to then re-export another time so to then re-export another time so there's just a lot of compression that's there's just a lot of compression that's there's just a lot of compression that's happening at that point so that being happening at that point so that being happening at that point so that being said like I always say this to churches said like I always say this to churches said like I always say this to churches when we get on calls and they're like when we get on calls and they're like when we get on calls and they're like you know we really want to start you you know we really want to start you you know we really want to start you know doing some more stuff on social but know doing some more stuff on social but know doing some more stuff on social but like our live stream video is not that like our live stream video is not that like our live stream video is not that great and I was like you know it's great and I was like you know it's great and I was like you know it's always useful to remember you're looking always useful to remember you're looking always useful to remember you're looking at your live stream probably on a at your live stream probably on a at your live stream probably on a computer yeah but the delivery medium is computer yeah but the delivery medium is computer yeah but the delivery medium is going to be on a phone and the nice going to be on a phone and the nice going to be on a phone and the nice thing is is that the phone is a lot thing is is that the phone is a lot thing is is that the phone is a lot smaller than the computer and so you're smaller than the computer and so you're smaller than the computer and so you're actually going to like it's a lot more actually going to like it's a lot more actually going to like it's a lot more generous in that way whatever you've got generous in that way whatever you've got generous in that way whatever you've got in terms of resolution like it's going in terms of resolution like it's going in terms of resolution like it's going to look a lot to look a lot to look a lot crispier um than it would be once it's crispier um than it would be once it's crispier um than it would be once it's compressed and so in a lot of ways that compressed and so in a lot of ways that compressed and so in a lot of ways that compression almost gets undone when you compression almost gets undone when you compression almost gets undone when you shrink it down so that's positive so shrink it down so that's positive so shrink it down so that's positive so long as the audio is crisp as well you long as the audio is crisp as well you long as the audio is crisp as well you can get away with video that's not super

can get away with video that's not super can get away with video that's not super great the most important thing is like great the most important thing is like great the most important thing is like if you're using your live if you're using your live if you're using your live stream file then you're downloading that stream file then you're downloading that stream file then you're downloading that to then cut it up is like are there to then cut it up is like are there to then cut it up is like are there overlays are there lower thirds on that overlays are there lower thirds on that overlays are there lower thirds on that you always want to be working with a you always want to be working with a you always want to be working with a clean feed because imagine if you're clean feed because imagine if you're clean feed because imagine if you're working on a horizontal 16x9 canvas and working on a horizontal 16x9 canvas and working on a horizontal 16x9 canvas and you're cropping to a vertical 9x6 and you're cropping to a vertical 9x6 and you're cropping to a vertical 9x6 and there's a lower third on the screen like there's a lower third on the screen like there's a lower third on the screen like there's no way to reconcile that that there's no way to reconcile that that there's no way to reconcile that that lower third is going to get chopped in lower third is going to get chopped in lower third is going to get chopped in half unless you zoom in well now you're half unless you zoom in well now you're half unless you zoom in well now you're degrading the quality even more because degrading the quality even more because degrading the quality even more because you're zooming in on the actual you're zooming in on the actual you're zooming in on the actual file this is what um churches end up file this is what um churches end up file this is what um churches end up doing and this is the most important doing and this is the most important doing and this is the most important thing in respect to this question thing in respect to this question thing in respect to this question they'll look at their sermon and they're they'll look at their sermon and they're they'll look at their sermon and they're like you know what the quality here like you know what the quality here like you know what the quality here could be better and it probably could be could be better and it probably could be could be better and it probably could be like I don't know if I'm happy with it I like I don't know if I'm happy with it I like I don't know if I'm happy with it I know what I'm going to do I'm going to know what I'm going to do I'm going to know what I'm going to do I'm going to dress this up so I'm going to take it dress this up so I'm going to take it dress this up so I'm going to take it I'm going to shrink it down and I'm I'm going to shrink it down and I'm I'm going to shrink it down and I'm going to put it on like a colored frame going to put it on like a colored frame going to put it on like a colored frame with like a texture and a fun background with like a texture and a fun background with like a texture and a fun background or I'm going to use like a lot of or I'm going to use like a lot of or I'm going to use like a lot of Graphics I'm going to add a cool filter Graphics I'm going to add a cool filter Graphics I'm going to add a cool filter I'm going to put some backing audio I'm going to put some backing audio I'm going to put some backing audio track behind it so okay like I've taken track behind it so okay like I've taken track behind it so okay like I've taken this and I've dressed it up that's the this and I've dressed it up that's the this and I've dressed it up that's the worst thing that you can possibly do worst thing that you can possibly do worst thing that you can possibly do when it comes to performance on social when it comes to performance on social when it comes to performance on social media why think about every video of media why think about every video of media why think about every video of mine that you watch not this one mine that you watch not this one mine that you watch not this one but like on YouTube on Instagram you can but like on YouTube on Instagram you can but like on YouTube on Instagram you can tell that I have prepared that content tell that I have prepared that content tell that I have prepared that content it's scripted I'm looking at the camera it's scripted I'm looking at the camera it's scripted I'm looking at the camera I'm talking directly to you churches I'm talking directly to you churches I'm talking directly to you churches have this amazing Advantage because the have this amazing Advantage because the have this amazing Advantage because the POV of our services when people see them POV of our services when people see them POV of our services when people see them online is oh this was a live event this

online is oh this was a live event this online is oh this was a live event this wasn't for me I am watching something wasn't for me I am watching something wasn't for me I am watching something that is not contrived that is not that is not contrived that is not that is not contrived that is not prepared this is a real thing that's a prepared this is a real thing that's a prepared this is a real thing that's a tremendously potent perspective because tremendously potent perspective because tremendously potent perspective because it feels unadultered it's like this is it feels unadultered it's like this is it feels unadultered it's like this is raw and real and I get to like be a fly raw and real and I get to like be a fly raw and real and I get to like be a fly on the wall for this if you start taking on the wall for this if you start taking on the wall for this if you start taking that shrinking it down cropping it that shrinking it down cropping it that shrinking it down cropping it putting it on this beautiful frame I putting it on this beautiful frame I putting it on this beautiful frame I found this awesome graphic it looks found this awesome graphic it looks found this awesome graphic it looks stunning I it looks great it looks stunning I it looks great it looks stunning I it looks great it looks really cool here's the problem it has really cool here's the problem it has really cool here's the problem it has now undone the one advantage you had you now undone the one advantage you had you now undone the one advantage you had you didn't have the most beautiful stream didn't have the most beautiful stream didn't have the most beautiful stream your resolution wasn't that crisp the your resolution wasn't that crisp the your resolution wasn't that crisp the lighting in your stage sucks that's all lighting in your stage sucks that's all lighting in your stage sucks that's all fine because you have this amazing POV fine because you have this amazing POV fine because you have this amazing POV that makes people want to look at things that makes people want to look at things that makes people want to look at things right like don't then undo that yeah right like don't then undo that yeah right like don't then undo that yeah because you've actually compromised the because you've actually compromised the because you've actually compromised the one thing he had going for you oh there one thing he had going for you oh there one thing he had going for you oh there you go we're sitting by the pool well you go we're sitting by the pool well you go we're sitting by the pool well the pool's over here but we're close the pool's over here but we're close the pool's over here but we're close enough you have any fashion advice for enough you have any fashion advice for enough you have any fashion advice for men's swimwear so I've had a lot of men's swimwear so I've had a lot of men's swimwear so I've had a lot of trouble with um with Trunks and the trouble with um with Trunks and the trouble with um with Trunks and the reason is because candidly I have a reason is because candidly I have a reason is because candidly I have a [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] wagon you know everyone stores fat in wagon you know everyone stores fat in wagon you know everyone stores fat in different spots and uh the uh the rear different spots and uh the uh the rear different spots and uh the uh the rear end is where I happen to store uh a lot end is where I happen to store uh a lot end is where I happen to store uh a lot of my fat and so I have to get down of my fat and so I have to get down of my fat and so I have to get down pretty lean before that part of me also pretty lean before that part of me also pretty lean before that part of me also starts to get starts to get starts to get lean and that means what I often found lean and that means what I often found lean and that means what I often found is I would put on Trunks and like my is I would put on Trunks and like my is I would put on Trunks and like my bigger thighs and my bigger butt are bigger thighs and my bigger butt are bigger thighs and my bigger butt are like making them real tight and you like making them real tight and you like making them real tight and you don't want that with trunks so the one

don't want that with trunks so the one don't want that with trunks so the one brand that I've had great success with brand that I've had great success with brand that I've had great success with is a brand called Chubbies no way yeah is a brand called Chubbies no way yeah is a brand called Chubbies no way yeah which you know is a little hurtful but which you know is a little hurtful but which you know is a little hurtful but there's something in the elastine of the there's something in the elastine of the there's something in the elastine of the the trunks that just always works and the trunks that just always works and the trunks that just always works and you know what if you look at the photos you know what if you look at the photos you know what if you look at the photos of the big boys on there they are all of the big boys on there they are all of the big boys on there they are all big boys it's like hey are you a big boys it's like hey are you a big boys it's like hey are you a Canadian boy that spent too much time on Canadian boy that spent too much time on Canadian boy that spent too much time on hockey skates and has a big butt in legs hockey skates and has a big butt in legs hockey skates and has a big butt in legs or played a lot of basketball which or played a lot of basketball which or played a lot of basketball which means you're not a Canadian boy um great means you're not a Canadian boy um great means you're not a Canadian boy um great this is for you did you inherit your this is for you did you inherit your this is for you did you inherit your dad's body and he was a wrestler like dad's body and he was a wrestler like dad's body and he was a wrestler like good for you have fun so that that's good for you have fun so that that's good for you have fun so that that's been really helpful you know you want been really helpful you know you want been really helpful you know you want them to be comfortable and they need to them to be comfortable and they need to them to be comfortable and they need to have some give then you got to consider have some give then you got to consider have some give then you got to consider length so we're both around 5'8 5'9 so length so we're both around 5'8 5'9 so length so we're both around 5'8 5'9 so we're not going to want to have those we're not going to want to have those we're not going to want to have those board shorts that are too long because board shorts that are too long because board shorts that are too long because they're going to make us look a lot they're going to make us look a lot they're going to make us look a lot shorter right so my regular shorts I shorter right so my regular shorts I shorter right so my regular shorts I find 5 in are great for a trunks I find 5 in are great for a trunks I find 5 in are great for a trunks I actually prefer 4 in because when you actually prefer 4 in because when you actually prefer 4 in because when you don't have a top on at all 5 in actually don't have a top on at all 5 in actually don't have a top on at all 5 in actually looks longer on the short than when you looks longer on the short than when you looks longer on the short than when you do have a top that maybe goes down a do have a top that maybe goes down a do have a top that maybe goes down a little bit past the waistband of your little bit past the waistband of your little bit past the waistband of your shorts like what I'm wearing right now shorts like what I'm wearing right now shorts like what I'm wearing right now these shorts are close to like 5 in um these shorts are close to like 5 in um these shorts are close to like 5 in um and when you sit down they ride up a bit and when you sit down they ride up a bit and when you sit down they ride up a bit that's okay but when I stand up this that's okay but when I stand up this that's okay but when I stand up this crochet top comes below it um if you're crochet top comes below it um if you're crochet top comes below it um if you're listening pardon me some of this might listening pardon me some of this might listening pardon me some of this might not be helpful but the inch requirement not be helpful but the inch requirement not be helpful but the inch requirement is good so if you are roughly our height is good so if you are roughly our height is good so if you are roughly our height or if you're a little bit taller a or if you're a little bit taller a or if you're a little bit taller a little bit shorter you can adjust what I little bit shorter you can adjust what I little bit shorter you can adjust what I would say is the recommended length of would say is the recommended length of would say is the recommended length of trunk accordingly and then style I I've

trunk accordingly and then style I I've trunk accordingly and then style I I've tried different colors you know maybe I tried different colors you know maybe I tried different colors you know maybe I need to do a color analysis the way that need to do a color analysis the way that need to do a color analysis the way that Tik Tok keeps telling me to but um I Tik Tok keeps telling me to but um I Tik Tok keeps telling me to but um I just love a pair of black trunks I have just love a pair of black trunks I have just love a pair of black trunks I have been EXP experimenting with more color been EXP experimenting with more color been EXP experimenting with more color right now I'm wearing this white and right now I'm wearing this white and right now I'm wearing this white and orange crochet shirt my pants my shorts orange crochet shirt my pants my shorts orange crochet shirt my pants my shorts are similar color to Alex which just are similar color to Alex which just are similar color to Alex which just some tan I've got some beige berky some tan I've got some beige berky some tan I've got some beige berky Boston on um I'm experimenting with more Boston on um I'm experimenting with more Boston on um I'm experimenting with more color or at least more tones uh but you color or at least more tones uh but you color or at least more tones uh but you just can't go wrong with a black suit no just can't go wrong with a black suit no just can't go wrong with a black suit no somehow ryland's pulling off what I somehow ryland's pulling off what I somehow ryland's pulling off what I think is a 3-in inseam today I don't think is a 3-in inseam today I don't think is a 3-in inseam today I don't I've never seen anything like that I've never seen anything like that I've never seen anything like that before yeah I can see him from here and before yeah I can see him from here and before yeah I can see him from here and he's just sunbathing like mostly in the he's just sunbathing like mostly in the he's just sunbathing like mostly in the nude and uh I mean praise God for him nude and uh I mean praise God for him nude and uh I mean praise God for him honestly okay guys I've been loving the honestly okay guys I've been loving the honestly okay guys I've been loving the pro Church tools Rebrand uh thanks for pro Church tools Rebrand uh thanks for pro Church tools Rebrand uh thanks for noticing and I had a question how do you noticing and I had a question how do you noticing and I had a question how do you guys go about email formatting to use guys go about email formatting to use guys go about email formatting to use something like MailChimp to design and something like MailChimp to design and something like MailChimp to design and format your emails the look has been so format your emails the look has been so format your emails the look has been so clean and clear and i' would love to clean and clear and i' would love to clean and clear and i' would love to implement something like that for our implement something like that for our implement something like that for our church as we try to use emails in a church as we try to use emails in a church as we try to use emails in a formational way for our congregants so formational way for our congregants so formational way for our congregants so right now we're sending two emails a right now we're sending two emails a right now we're sending two emails a week we send a plain text kind of more week we send a plain text kind of more week we send a plain text kind of more personal style email on Tuesdays and we personal style email on Tuesdays and we personal style email on Tuesdays and we use convert kit for this and have for use convert kit for this and have for use convert kit for this and have for many years and then on Thursdays we're many years and then on Thursdays we're many years and then on Thursdays we're now sending our new newsletter it's now sending our new newsletter it's now sending our new newsletter it's called the 167 why is it called that uh called the 167 why is it called that uh called the 167 why is it called that uh because the point of the newsletter is because the point of the newsletter is because the point of the newsletter is to help your church navigate the 167 to help your church navigate the 167 to help your church navigate the 167 hours beyond Sunday service every single hours beyond Sunday service every single hours beyond Sunday service every single week we tried this with convertkit and week we tried this with convertkit and week we tried this with convertkit and then we switched to a different platform then we switched to a different platform then we switched to a different platform called beehive now I love beehive but called beehive now I love beehive but called beehive now I love beehive but their spelling is horrendous it's beeh I

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ready yet read past issues and like not ready yet read past issues and you can click on that and then you can you can click on that and then you can you can click on that and then you can explore and that's a great way of like explore and that's a great way of like explore and that's a great way of like hey you're not ready for this layer in hey you're not ready for this layer in hey you're not ready for this layer in our relationship first date dilemma our relationship first date dilemma our relationship first date dilemma check this out learn a bit more about me check this out learn a bit more about me check this out learn a bit more about me before you commit to this and those before you commit to this and those before you commit to this and those emails do look awesome now that being emails do look awesome now that being emails do look awesome now that being said sometimes the formatting is going said sometimes the formatting is going said sometimes the formatting is going to be wonking uh wonky just because to be wonking uh wonky just because to be wonking uh wonky just because every email client is different like for

every email client is different like for every email client is different like for instance I use air mail okay and on instance I use air mail okay and on instance I use air mail okay and on desktop I have the background of the the desktop I have the background of the the desktop I have the background of the the newsletter set to this like cream color newsletter set to this like cream color newsletter set to this like cream color and on my desktop the mail shows that and on my desktop the mail shows that and on my desktop the mail shows that but then like on mobile it's just white but then like on mobile it's just white but then like on mobile it's just white huh it's the same email client right so huh it's the same email client right so huh it's the same email client right so I wrote beehive and they're like yeah I wrote beehive and they're like yeah I wrote beehive and they're like yeah you know like email clients just do you know like email clients just do you know like email clients just do things and uh you know that's really things and uh you know that's really things and uh you know that's really comforting to me because folks will comforting to me because folks will comforting to me because folks will write into nucleus and say like because write into nucleus and say like because write into nucleus and say like because we have we have uh nucleus people and we have we have uh nucleus people and we have we have uh nucleus people and messages you can send emails through messages you can send emails through messages you can send emails through nucleus to your church members people nucleus to your church members people nucleus to your church members people say like hey our our emails are looking say like hey our our emails are looking say like hey our our emails are looking this way and that's usually our response this way and that's usually our response this way and that's usually our response because it's true like some email hosts because it's true like some email hosts because it's true like some email hosts will display content differently and will display content differently and will display content differently and receive content differently and sorry receive content differently and sorry receive content differently and sorry that's out of our hands and this is why that's out of our hands and this is why that's out of our hands and this is why we have been saying just use plain text we have been saying just use plain text we have been saying just use plain text email and why we've only ever sent plain email and why we've only ever sent plain email and why we've only ever sent plain text email forever and we haven't text email forever and we haven't text email forever and we haven't abandoned that we're still doing it abandoned that we're still doing it abandoned that we're still doing it we've added another email because we're we've added another email because we're we've added another email because we're doing so much content that we really doing so much content that we really doing so much content that we really want to be able to make sure that it's want to be able to make sure that it's want to be able to make sure that it's being seen it's being shared it's being being seen it's being shared it's being being seen it's being shared it's being published in ways that are accessible to published in ways that are accessible to published in ways that are accessible to people and newsletters in kind of like people and newsletters in kind of like people and newsletters in kind of like the online zeit guys are having a big the online zeit guys are having a big the online zeit guys are having a big moment right now almost as a way to push moment right now almost as a way to push moment right now almost as a way to push back against the algorithmic volatility back against the algorithmic volatility back against the algorithmic volatility of social platforms and why a lot of of social platforms and why a lot of of social platforms and why a lot of people are like Hey we're going to people are like Hey we're going to people are like Hey we're going to publish on social and then we want to publish on social and then we want to publish on social and then we want to move people to the newsletter which is move people to the newsletter which is move people to the newsletter which is not new that's literally what we've been not new that's literally what we've been not new that's literally what we've been doing since 2011 when this company doing since 2011 when this company doing since 2011 when this company started but for whatever reason there's started but for whatever reason there's started but for whatever reason there's like this new thrust of kind of like this new thrust of kind of like this new thrust of kind of expressions of it and beehive is a big

expressions of it and beehive is a big expressions of it and beehive is a big part of that so A few of the features we part of that so A few of the features we part of that so A few of the features we really like about beehive number one is really like about beehive number one is really like about beehive number one is the ability to show something in an the ability to show something in an the ability to show something in an email but to hide it on the website so email but to hide it on the website so email but to hide it on the website so for example when I'm preparing the email for example when I'm preparing the email for example when I'm preparing the email I can create a section at the end of the I can create a section at the end of the I can create a section at the end of the newsletter where I invite folks to newsletter where I invite folks to newsletter where I invite folks to subscribe if they're new or forward the subscribe if they're new or forward the subscribe if they're new or forward the newsletter to a friend in Ministry who newsletter to a friend in Ministry who newsletter to a friend in Ministry who they might think would find it useful they might think would find it useful they might think would find it useful yeah I hide those elements on the web yeah I hide those elements on the web yeah I hide those elements on the web version so I publish it once it gets version so I publish it once it gets version so I publish it once it gets sent via email those sections show up in sent via email those sections show up in sent via email those sections show up in the email but if you go and read that the email but if you go and read that the email but if you go and read that same newsletter on online it's not going same newsletter on online it's not going same newsletter on online it's not going to show that because it wouldn't be to show that because it wouldn't be to show that because it wouldn't be relevant right that's nice second thing relevant right that's nice second thing relevant right that's nice second thing I like is the hosted site again you can I like is the hosted site again you can I like is the hosted site again you can see ours at 167 prochurchtools see ours at 167 prochurchtools see ours at 167 prochurchtools docomo I was a bit worried about the docomo I was a bit worried about the docomo I was a bit worried about the formatting and design options at the formatting and design options at the formatting and design options at the beginning uh but I'm really happy with beginning uh but I'm really happy with beginning uh but I'm really happy with how it turned out it was a there was a how it turned out it was a there was a how it turned out it was a there was a lot like I wouldn't say it was like an lot like I wouldn't say it was like an lot like I wouldn't say it was like an easy onboarding process with beehive easy onboarding process with beehive easy onboarding process with beehive like it took me several days of like like it took me several days of like like it took me several days of like working at it to set it up but I am working at it to set it up but I am working at it to set it up but I am happy with how it turned out and then happy with how it turned out and then happy with how it turned out and then the pricing it is $84 a month for up to the pricing it is $84 a month for up to the pricing it is $84 a month for up to a 100,000 subscribers that's not like a 100,000 subscribers that's not like a 100,000 subscribers that's not like cheap for a lot of churches let's say cheap for a lot of churches let's say cheap for a lot of churches let's say like it's not like oh why are you like it's not like oh why are you like it's not like oh why are you highlighting pricing like that's not highlighting pricing like that's not highlighting pricing like that's not inaccessible but you wouldn't consider inaccessible but you wouldn't consider inaccessible but you wouldn't consider that like that's a huge bargain email that like that's a huge bargain email that like that's a huge bargain email marketing platforms are famous for just marketing platforms are famous for just marketing platforms are famous for just outrageous pricing because what they do outrageous pricing because what they do outrageous pricing because what they do is they charge based on subscriber based is they charge based on subscriber based is they charge based on subscriber based on number of admins based on number of on number of admins based on number of on number of admins based on number of emails that you send based on number of emails that you send based on number of emails that you send based on number of sequences and this is why with nucleus sequences and this is why with nucleus sequences and this is why with nucleus messages that you mentioned we have

messages that you mentioned we have messages that you mentioned we have always just had like unlimited always just had like unlimited always just had like unlimited everything on our plan No Limit so as everything on our plan No Limit so as everything on our plan No Limit so as many follow-up sequences as you want as many follow-up sequences as you want as many follow-up sequences as you want as many broadcasts as you want as many many broadcasts as you want as many many broadcasts as you want as many subscribers as you want as many admins subscribers as you want as many admins subscribers as you want as many admins as you want because there's a huge value as you want because there's a huge value as you want because there's a huge value for that for churches I was on MailChimp for that for churches I was on MailChimp for that for churches I was on MailChimp site the other day and I was looking at site the other day and I was looking at site the other day and I was looking at like their plan where it had up to like their plan where it had up to like their plan where it had up to 100,000 contacts so it was like still 100,000 contacts so it was like still 100,000 contacts so it was like still not unlimited but like for virtually not unlimited but like for virtually not unlimited but like for virtually everyone like we for reference we have everyone like we for reference we have everyone like we for reference we have about 50,000 contacts that we pretty about 50,000 contacts that we pretty about 50,000 contacts that we pretty consistantly prune like if you're not consistantly prune like if you're not consistantly prune like if you're not clicking and following we don't want you clicking and following we don't want you clicking and following we don't want you to be on the list anymore um because for to be on the list anymore um because for to be on the list anymore um because for deliver ility that matters if we didn't deliver ility that matters if we didn't deliver ility that matters if we didn't do that we'd be well beyond 100,000 at do that we'd be well beyond 100,000 at do that we'd be well beyond 100,000 at this point it was $500 a month and it this point it was $500 a month and it this point it was $500 a month and it still was like you get three admins and still was like you get three admins and still was like you get three admins and you get this it was like we're still you get this it was like we're still you get this it was like we're still doing this in 2024 it's crazy uh and doing this in 2024 it's crazy uh and doing this in 2024 it's crazy uh and then number four I like that you can then number four I like that you can then number four I like that you can style images directly within the editor style images directly within the editor style images directly within the editor we do this on Nucleus web it's one of my we do this on Nucleus web it's one of my we do this on Nucleus web it's one of my favorite features where you can take a favorite features where you can take a favorite features where you can take a photo on Nucleus web and treat it with photo on Nucleus web and treat it with photo on Nucleus web and treat it with different blend modes treat it with different blend modes treat it with different blend modes treat it with different Fades and colored overlays so different Fades and colored overlays so different Fades and colored overlays so instead of bringing it into canva instead of bringing it into canva instead of bringing it into canva instead of bringing it into Photoshop instead of bringing it into Photoshop instead of bringing it into Photoshop you can do it directly in there beehive you can do it directly in there beehive you can do it directly in there beehive has some similar um options so you can has some similar um options so you can has some similar um options so you can add an outline they have a dashed add an outline they have a dashed add an outline they have a dashed outline option that I really like and outline option that I really like and outline option that I really like and use a lot uh you can take a photo that use a lot uh you can take a photo that use a lot uh you can take a photo that might have like Square edges and round might have like Square edges and round might have like Square edges and round off the edges nice and off the edges nice and off the edges nice and sophisticated and uh this might also be sophisticated and uh this might also be sophisticated and uh this might also be a good time to announce uh the pro a good time to announce uh the pro a good time to announce uh the pro Church tools scholarship which is brand Church tools scholarship which is brand Church tools scholarship which is brand new and I uh I think I announced it last new and I uh I think I announced it last new and I uh I think I announced it last week on Instagram but basically we are

week on Instagram but basically we are week on Instagram but basically we are going to begin awarding a $500 going to begin awarding a $500 going to begin awarding a $500 scholarship to a new church every single scholarship to a new church every single scholarship to a new church every single month all churches are month all churches are month all churches are eligible and you don't need to be a eligible and you don't need to be a eligible and you don't need to be a subscriber or a a customer of one of our subscriber or a a customer of one of our subscriber or a a customer of one of our products you don't need to uh like we're products you don't need to uh like we're products you don't need to uh like we're we're not going to tell you how to spend we're not going to tell you how to spend we're not going to tell you how to spend the money $500 oh yeah yeah it's a the money $500 oh yeah yeah it's a the money $500 oh yeah yeah it's a scholarship for nucleus it's like no no scholarship for nucleus it's like no no scholarship for nucleus it's like no no yeah maybe you want to buy put some yeah maybe you want to buy put some yeah maybe you want to buy put some money towards one of those cameras that money towards one of those cameras that money towards one of those cameras that we mentioned like go for it maybe you we mentioned like go for it maybe you we mentioned like go for it maybe you want to buy our Legacy third cut and want to buy our Legacy third cut and want to buy our Legacy third cut and just like you know not tell the church just like you know not tell the church just like you know not tell the church don't don't La her don't don't La her don't don't La her money uh and then you also uh any church money uh and then you also uh any church money uh and then you also uh any church in the world you don't need to be in the world you don't need to be in the world you don't need to be Canadian or North American so every Canadian or North American so every Canadian or North American so every Thursday at 9:00 a.m. the 167 newsletter Thursday at 9:00 a.m. the 167 newsletter Thursday at 9:00 a.m. the 167 newsletter goes out here is how to become eligible goes out here is how to become eligible goes out here is how to become eligible for the scholarship starting in March for the scholarship starting in March for the scholarship starting in March I'm going to begin including a new I'm going to begin including a new I'm going to begin including a new section in one newsletter each month section in one newsletter each month section in one newsletter each month with a special keyword so for instance with a special keyword so for instance with a special keyword so for instance the keyword might be mustache it's not the keyword might be mustache it's not the keyword might be mustache it's not going to be mustache but as an example going to be mustache but as an example going to be mustache but as an example it will be man bun this keyword will it will be man bun this keyword will it will be man bun this keyword will change every month and it's only going change every month and it's only going change every month and it's only going to be sent in one issue every month okay to be sent in one issue every month okay to be sent in one issue every month okay the keyword is your ticket to entry for the keyword is your ticket to entry for the keyword is your ticket to entry for the scholarship so once you see that the scholarship so once you see that the scholarship so once you see that keyword oh it's mustache DM me on keyword oh it's mustache DM me on keyword oh it's mustache DM me on Instagram with just the keyword so you Instagram with just the keyword so you Instagram with just the keyword so you would just DM me mustache that means would just DM me mustache that means would just DM me mustache that means you've secured your entry for that you've secured your entry for that you've secured your entry for that month's scholarship and we're going to month's scholarship and we're going to month's scholarship and we're going to redo it every single month so a new redo it every single month so a new redo it every single month so a new church gets a new $500 scholarship every church gets a new $500 scholarship every church gets a new $500 scholarship every single month uh you just need to be single month uh you just need to be single month uh you just need to be subscribed to the newsletter 67.

subscribed to the newsletter 67. subscribed to the newsletter 67. prochurchtools decom to be eligible prochurchtools decom to be eligible prochurchtools decom to be eligible amazing I'm eager to hear how uh how amazing I'm eager to hear how uh how amazing I'm eager to hear how uh how churches allocate the $500 from their churches allocate the $500 from their churches allocate the $500 from their scholarship ship cuz there's all sorts scholarship ship cuz there's all sorts scholarship ship cuz there's all sorts of things worth investing in of things worth investing in of things worth investing in absolutely that's what makes it fun it's absolutely that's what makes it fun it's absolutely that's what makes it fun it's a scholarship you know depending on a scholarship you know depending on a scholarship you know depending on where your church is what your needs where your church is what your needs where your church is what your needs might be at that moment oh this is might be at that moment oh this is might be at that moment oh this is perfect time we've done this before like perfect time we've done this before like perfect time we've done this before like not consistently we've done it like oh not consistently we've done it like oh not consistently we've done it like oh we have $1,000 to give it to a church we have $1,000 to give it to a church we have $1,000 to give it to a church this is perfect for M this yeah okay this is perfect for M this yeah okay this is perfect for M this yeah okay next question swimming pool title pool next question swimming pool title pool next question swimming pool title pool or open beach do you have strong or open beach do you have strong or open beach do you have strong thoughts on this I don't have strong thoughts on this I don't have strong thoughts on this I don't have strong thoughts on this um I just like water thoughts on this um I just like water thoughts on this um I just like water being around water with kids it like being around water with kids it like being around water with kids it like presents its own unique set of presents its own unique set of presents its own unique set of circumstances and and anxieties and so I circumstances and and anxieties and so I circumstances and and anxieties and so I guess at this stage of life we might be guess at this stage of life we might be guess at this stage of life we might be answering this question in a certain way answering this question in a certain way answering this question in a certain way I grew up around water I was a swim I grew up around water I was a swim I grew up around water I was a swim instructor and a speed swimming uh coach instructor and a speed swimming uh coach instructor and a speed swimming uh coach my mom's a swim instructor my my mom's a swim instructor my my mom's a swim instructor my grandmother's a swim instructor so I grandmother's a swim instructor so I grandmother's a swim instructor so I just love it Rebecca with without just love it Rebecca with without just love it Rebecca with without question would answer open beach because question would answer open beach because question would answer open beach because the ocean and the beach is her favorite the ocean and the beach is her favorite the ocean and the beach is her favorite place on Earth Earth we were there this place on Earth Earth we were there this place on Earth Earth we were there this morning and I don't see her light up morning and I don't see her light up morning and I don't see her light up like that about anything else like when like that about anything else like when like that about anything else like when she gets to the beach and when she walks she gets to the beach and when she walks she gets to the beach and when she walks to the ocean and gets her feet in the to the ocean and gets her feet in the to the ocean and gets her feet in the water that is like it for her so I'm I'm water that is like it for her so I'm I'm water that is like it for her so I'm I'm agnostic here I I don't really mind but agnostic here I I don't really mind but agnostic here I I don't really mind but Rebecca would feel strongly about the Rebecca would feel strongly about the Rebecca would feel strongly about the beach tidle pool is a no sounds beach tidle pool is a no sounds beach tidle pool is a no sounds dangerous yeah you know like the wave dangerous yeah you know like the wave dangerous yeah you know like the wave pools yeah yeah no yeah I I'd probably pools yeah yeah no yeah I I'd probably pools yeah yeah no yeah I I'd probably lean Beach but I do love the ocean yeah lean Beach but I do love the ocean yeah lean Beach but I do love the ocean yeah but a nice I just said the same thing

but a nice I just said the same thing but a nice I just said the same thing twice this is a long podcast I'd twice this is a long podcast I'd twice this is a long podcast I'd probably lean pools but I still love the probably lean pools but I still love the probably lean pools but I still love the beach in the ocean yeah because like the beach in the ocean yeah because like the beach in the ocean yeah because like the beach was great this morning yeah but beach was great this morning yeah but beach was great this morning yeah but but sand is not always great it's quite but sand is not always great it's quite but sand is not always great it's quite messy and it's a lot more windy at the messy and it's a lot more windy at the messy and it's a lot more windy at the beach than it was here we're just you beach than it was here we're just you beach than it was here we're just you know a few hundred yards down Ro it's know a few hundred yards down Ro it's know a few hundred yards down Ro it's not as clean yes you don't have the all not as clean yes you don't have the all not as clean yes you don't have the all the amenities of a a close washroom uh the amenities of a a close washroom uh the amenities of a a close washroom uh uh virgin uh virgin uh virgin Mojitos this comfy couch right maybe I'm Mojitos this comfy couch right maybe I'm Mojitos this comfy couch right maybe I'm a pool guy maybe sounds a pool guy maybe sounds a pool guy maybe sounds like 15th and final question for this like 15th and final question for this like 15th and final question for this episode of the pro Church tool show this episode of the pro Church tool show this episode of the pro Church tool show this inaugural epe it really the BR Church inaugural epe it really the BR Church inaugural epe it really the BR Church pool pool pool show what are your best show what are your best show what are your best tips what are your best tips for tips what are your best tips for tips what are your best tips for starting a Church starting a Church starting a Church podcast um just let you know we already podcast um just let you know we already podcast um just let you know we already have good structure and good equipment have good structure and good equipment have good structure and good equipment Okay the reason I wanted to include this Okay the reason I wanted to include this Okay the reason I wanted to include this is because they say we already have the is because they say we already have the is because they say we already have the equipment usually the question comes in equipment usually the question comes in equipment usually the question comes in like what gear do we need but that's like what gear do we need but that's like what gear do we need but that's taken care of so and we've answered that taken care of so and we've answered that taken care of so and we've answered that question before we have most important question before we have most important question before we have most important thing is consistency do not miss a week thing is consistency do not miss a week thing is consistency do not miss a week when people ask me hey would you come on when people ask me hey would you come on when people ask me hey would you come on my podcast the first question I ask back my podcast the first question I ask back my podcast the first question I ask back is have you published 10 episodes is have you published 10 episodes is have you published 10 episodes already and half the time they say no already and half the time they say no already and half the time they say no and I say once you've done that write me and I say once you've done that write me and I say once you've done that write me back I'm glad to come on but most back I'm glad to come on but most back I'm glad to come on but most podcasts just never get past that first podcasts just never get past that first podcasts just never get past that first I don't know if people are expecting I don't know if people are expecting I don't know if people are expecting we're going to launch a podcast and we're going to launch a podcast and we're going to launch a podcast and suddenly I'm going to have like this suddenly I'm going to have like this suddenly I'm going to have like this International audience I'm not sure if International audience I'm not sure if International audience I'm not sure if the expectations are not good um but we

the expectations are not good um but we the expectations are not good um but we love to just encourage you to stay love to just encourage you to stay love to just encourage you to stay consistent because that is the most consistent because that is the most consistent because that is the most important thing the second is important thing the second is important thing the second is predictable format predictable format predictable format so for us once a month we do a question so for us once a month we do a question so for us once a month we do a question and answer show uh evidently once a year and answer show uh evidently once a year and answer show uh evidently once a year we do it internationally um and then we do it internationally um and then we do it internationally um and then once a month we do a interview show and once a month we do a interview show and once a month we do a interview show and then the other couple episodes are like then the other couple episodes are like then the other couple episodes are like specific subject matter and content and specific subject matter and content and specific subject matter and content and they predictable format with the same they predictable format with the same they predictable format with the same intro roughly the same length the same intro roughly the same length the same intro roughly the same length the same Two Hosts and we're covering similar Two Hosts and we're covering similar Two Hosts and we're covering similar subject subject subject matter and then for church specifically matter and then for church specifically matter and then for church specifically you got to ask the question like people you got to ask the question like people you got to ask the question like people in your church are already getting a in your church are already getting a in your church are already getting a long form talk in the form of a sermon long form talk in the form of a sermon long form talk in the form of a sermon each week so how is this different and each week so how is this different and each week so how is this different and what's the value to what's the value to what's the value to them people and companies organizations them people and companies organizations them people and companies organizations folks start podcasts because like I'm folks start podcasts because like I'm folks start podcasts because like I'm doing social media content that's all doing social media content that's all doing social media content that's all bite-sized I'm doing YouTube videos bite-sized I'm doing YouTube videos bite-sized I'm doing YouTube videos those are all really prepared a long those are all really prepared a long those are all really prepared a long form informal conversation style podcast form informal conversation style podcast form informal conversation style podcast there's nothing like that in the content there's nothing like that in the content there's nothing like that in the content universe of my world churches are universe of my world churches are universe of my world churches are already doing that every single week already doing that every single week already doing that every single week basically so how are you going to do it basically so how are you going to do it basically so how are you going to do it differently maybe it's question and differently maybe it's question and differently maybe it's question and answer I would definitely recommend it's answer I would definitely recommend it's answer I would definitely recommend it's not monologue based with your pastor not monologue based with your pastor not monologue based with your pastor like create a different format where like create a different format where like create a different format where there is a host maybe they're the one there is a host maybe they're the one there is a host maybe they're the one asking the questions or if you want to asking the questions or if you want to asking the questions or if you want to rely on their expertise that's great but rely on their expertise that's great but rely on their expertise that's great but have another host so that it's back and have another host so that it's back and have another host so that it's back and forth the way Alex and I are back and forth the way Alex and I are back and forth the way Alex and I are back and forth where for 90% of the time I talk

forth where for 90% of the time I talk forth where for 90% of the time I talk and he goes yes I like and he goes yes I like and he goes yes I like it and then finally consider fun it and then finally consider fun it and then finally consider fun segments with some kind of novelty um segments with some kind of novelty um segments with some kind of novelty um those are easy ways to frame episodes so those are easy ways to frame episodes so those are easy ways to frame episodes so it's going to help with consistency but it's going to help with consistency but it's going to help with consistency but then they become like running segments then they become like running segments then they become like running segments that if you if you know you know sort of that if you if you know you know sort of that if you if you know you know sort of thing like I mentioned bro Church tools thing like I mentioned bro Church tools thing like I mentioned bro Church tools and a bunch of people got it and then a and a bunch of people got it and then a and a bunch of people got it and then a bunch of people were like bunch of people were like bunch of people were like bro what's what isn't your company Pro bro what's what isn't your company Pro bro what's what isn't your company Pro Church tools and now they're in on the Church tools and now they're in on the Church tools and now they're in on the joke and now we're taking the joke one joke and now we're taking the joke one joke and now we're taking the joke one step further with broch church pools step further with broch church pools step further with broch church pools which is just so nonsensical that maybe which is just so nonsensical that maybe which is just so nonsensical that maybe we've taken it too far but uh back to we've taken it too far but uh back to we've taken it too far but uh back to the ringer they excel at at this like the ringer they excel at at this like the ringer they excel at at this like you know Bill Simmons has his million you know Bill Simmons has his million you know Bill Simmons has his million dooll picks which you know in sports dooll picks which you know in sports dooll picks which you know in sports gambling is such huge money right now in gambling is such huge money right now in gambling is such huge money right now in terms of sponsorships and he's done this terms of sponsorships and he's done this terms of sponsorships and he's done this it predates that but instead of just it predates that but instead of just it predates that but instead of just saying here are my picks he's like here saying here are my picks he's like here saying here are my picks he's like here are my million dooll picks so basically are my million dooll picks so basically are my million dooll picks so basically he takes this fictional million dollars he takes this fictional million dollars he takes this fictional million dollars and he bets them on football during and he bets them on football during and he bets them on football during football season and then he tracks it football season and then he tracks it football season and then he tracks it each week it's like so far this year each week it's like so far this year each week it's like so far this year we're on we're I I don't I don't Sports we're on we're I I don't I don't Sports we're on we're I I don't I don't Sports gamble I don't like it I've tried it I gamble I don't like it I've tried it I gamble I don't like it I've tried it I didn't enjoy it and I don't definitely didn't enjoy it and I don't definitely didn't enjoy it and I don't definitely bet millions of dollars on it but it's bet millions of dollars on it but it's bet millions of dollars on it but it's fascinating to listen to Just because fascinating to listen to Just because fascinating to listen to Just because like it becomes this story that's gr and like it becomes this story that's gr and like it becomes this story that's gr and it's the segment with a fun name and and it's the segment with a fun name and and it's the segment with a fun name and and truthfully gambling folks have done this truthfully gambling folks have done this truthfully gambling folks have done this forever like Simpsons gags from B way forever like Simpsons gags from B way forever like Simpsons gags from B way back in the days like my lock of the back in the days like my lock of the back in the days like my lock of the week and then you pick up this giant week and then you pick up this giant week and then you pick up this giant lock and like it's a fun segment um Bill lock and like it's a fun segment um Bill lock and like it's a fun segment um Bill Simmons also does parent corner so at Simmons also does parent corner so at Simmons also does parent corner so at the end of an episode he'll do parent the end of an episode he'll do parent the end of an episode he'll do parent corner with this other guy and they just corner with this other guy and they just corner with this other guy and they just tell a story about their kids so

tell a story about their kids so tell a story about their kids so creating segments uh we're going to creating segments uh we're going to creating segments uh we're going to start implementing this more um because start implementing this more um because start implementing this more um because I think it's one that we can grow in and I think it's one that we can grow in and I think it's one that we can grow in and I think folks would find Value in and I think folks would find Value in and I think folks would find Value in and we're going to actually begin doing that we're going to actually begin doing that we're going to actually begin doing that more so that's another any tips from you more so that's another any tips from you more so that's another any tips from you yeah I I think yeah I I think yeah I I think like I understand the desire from a like I understand the desire from a like I understand the desire from a church workers's perspective to want to church workers's perspective to want to church workers's perspective to want to use a podcast medium to share content use a podcast medium to share content use a podcast medium to share content because we think we are and we believe because we think we are and we believe because we think we are and we believe we're sharing The Greatest Story Ever we're sharing The Greatest Story Ever we're sharing The Greatest Story Ever Told so it's like why not talk about Told so it's like why not talk about Told so it's like why not talk about this more and so I I get that I I this more and so I I get that I I this more and so I I get that I I empathize with that um but to to your to empathize with that um but to to your to empathize with that um but to to your to one of your earlier points um about the one of your earlier points um about the one of your earlier points um about the fact that our church communities are fact that our church communities are fact that our church communities are already consuming a long form piece of already consuming a long form piece of already consuming a long form piece of content from our organization every week content from our organization every week content from our organization every week so I think it's like it's essential it's so I think it's like it's essential it's so I think it's like it's essential it's prudent for any church wanting to start prudent for any church wanting to start prudent for any church wanting to start a p podcast to ask the question like a p podcast to ask the question like a p podcast to ask the question like what is the purpose of this show and what is the purpose of this show and what is the purpose of this show and there there are many like it could be there there are many like it could be there there are many like it could be the purpose of this is for the spiritual the purpose of this is for the spiritual the purpose of this is for the spiritual formation of our congregation well then formation of our congregation well then formation of our congregation well then that's going to inform what your show that's going to inform what your show that's going to inform what your show looks like the purpose of this show is looks like the purpose of this show is looks like the purpose of this show is for um Community engagement in our for um Community engagement in our for um Community engagement in our church and around that's a diff that church and around that's a diff that church and around that's a diff that show will take on a different complexion show will take on a different complexion show will take on a different complexion the purpose of this show is to share the the purpose of this show is to share the the purpose of this show is to share the story of Jesus with the broadest story of Jesus with the broadest story of Jesus with the broadest audience possible okay that show is audience possible okay that show is audience possible okay that show is going to take on a different complexion going to take on a different complexion going to take on a different complexion so I think really going to have to be so I think really going to have to be so I think really going to have to be introspective enough to ask the question introspective enough to ask the question introspective enough to ask the question like what are we trying to do like what are we trying to do like what are we trying to do specifically with this show I love the specifically with this show I love the specifically with this show I love the idea of trying to uh we talk a lot here

idea of trying to uh we talk a lot here idea of trying to uh we talk a lot here at prch tools about season the 167 the at prch tools about season the 167 the at prch tools about season the 167 the 167 hours beyond your Sunday service 167 hours beyond your Sunday service 167 hours beyond your Sunday service and so using the podcast medium to help and so using the podcast medium to help and so using the podcast medium to help your congregation put one foot in front your congregation put one foot in front your congregation put one foot in front of the other on Tuesday afternoon and so of the other on Tuesday afternoon and so of the other on Tuesday afternoon and so that for me I love the idea of using a that for me I love the idea of using a that for me I love the idea of using a podcast for Spiritual formation that podcast for Spiritual formation that podcast for Spiritual formation that could look like so many different things could look like so many different things could look like so many different things the first thing that comes to mind is the first thing that comes to mind is the first thing that comes to mind is centering voices on the show that aren't centering voices on the show that aren't centering voices on the show that aren't just the predominant voices that you just the predominant voices that you just the predominant voices that you hear from stage on Sunday because that's hear from stage on Sunday because that's hear from stage on Sunday because that's likely not what your likely not what your likely not what your church wants or needs is just to hear church wants or needs is just to hear church wants or needs is just to hear another long form piece of content from another long form piece of content from another long form piece of content from the same voice throughout the middle of the same voice throughout the middle of the same voice throughout the middle of the week so Center more voices in your the week so Center more voices in your the week so Center more voices in your community whether it's other staff community whether it's other staff community whether it's other staff members or volunteers or just lay people members or volunteers or just lay people members or volunteers or just lay people in your church find a way within the in your church find a way within the in your church find a way within the structure of your show to invite them on structure of your show to invite them on structure of your show to invite them on the show to feel a part of it and then the show to feel a part of it and then the show to feel a part of it and then when other lay people from your church when other lay people from your church when other lay people from your church are listening to it they will feel seen are listening to it they will feel seen are listening to it they will feel seen and heard and known by hearing other and heard and known by hearing other and heard and known by hearing other late people on the show um so I I really late people on the show um so I I really late people on the show um so I I really like the idea this is just like very like the idea this is just like very like the idea this is just like very philosophical of a diversity of voices philosophical of a diversity of voices philosophical of a diversity of voices um in whatever kind of whatever kind of um in whatever kind of whatever kind of um in whatever kind of whatever kind of format you choose to do on the show but format you choose to do on the show but format you choose to do on the show but I think the there I mean you and I are I think the there I mean you and I are I think the there I mean you and I are both like Avid podcast listeners and we both like Avid podcast listeners and we both like Avid podcast listeners and we listen to each one of those shows listen to each one of those shows listen to each one of those shows because they provide real um and unique because they provide real um and unique because they provide real um and unique value that speaks to a certain area of value that speaks to a certain area of value that speaks to a certain area of Our Lives for me it's usually at the Our Lives for me it's usually at the Our Lives for me it's usually at the intersection of of faith and and culture intersection of of faith and and culture intersection of of faith and and culture or Sports um really have the or Sports um really have the or Sports um really have the intersection of faith and meat yes um intersection of faith and meat yes um intersection of faith and meat yes um but we all like and maybe it's a symptom but we all like and maybe it's a symptom but we all like and maybe it's a symptom of of of something else like maybe we

of of of something else like maybe we of of of something else like maybe we should all just be consuming less should all just be consuming less should all just be consuming less content but I think the desire is there content but I think the desire is there content but I think the desire is there for for your community your church to for for your community your church to for for your community your church to engage with your Church's content beyond engage with your Church's content beyond engage with your Church's content beyond the Sunday service you just have to ask the Sunday service you just have to ask the Sunday service you just have to ask yourself the question first like what do yourself the question first like what do yourself the question first like what do we want the goal what do we want to we want the goal what do we want to we want the goal what do we want to achieve with the show and I think achieve with the show and I think achieve with the show and I think that'll help give you the context for that'll help give you the context for that'll help give you the context for the structure of whatever you're going the structure of whatever you're going the structure of whatever you're going to do in order to make it successful for to do in order to make it successful for to do in order to make it successful for your community you know we wanted to your community you know we wanted to your community you know we wanted to achieve a podcast episode filmed on the achieve a podcast episode filmed on the achieve a podcast episode filmed on the corporate corporate corporate retreat we're glad that you came along retreat we're glad that you came along retreat we're glad that you came along for the ride we'll be back in the studio for the ride we'll be back in the studio for the ride we'll be back in the studio next week and thanks as always for your next week and thanks as always for your next week and thanks as always for your time attention and Trust we'll talk to time attention and Trust we'll talk to time attention and Trust we'll talk to you you you [Music]