Lightroom Presets From Former Life.Church Photographer

today on the show we're joined by a today on the show we're joined by a former Life Church photographer and former Life Church photographer and former Life Church photographer and Together live on the show he's going to Together live on the show he's going to Together live on the show he's going to show us how he edits his photos from show us how he edits his photos from show us how he edits his photos from scratch we're going to cover everything scratch we're going to cover everything scratch we're going to cover everything from exposure to white balance Dynamic from exposure to white balance Dynamic from exposure to white balance Dynamic light preserving skin tones he was even light preserving skin tones he was even light preserving skin tones he was even kind enough to share the presets that he kind enough to share the presets that he kind enough to share the presets that he made and we'll have that free download made and we'll have that free download made and we'll have that free download for you later in the show let's dive for you later in the show let's dive for you later in the show let's dive in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you in your church navigate the biggest in your church navigate the biggest in your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years I am communication shift in 500 years I am communication shift in 500 years I am Brady sheerer your host I'm joined us Brady sheerer your host I'm joined us Brady sheerer your host I'm joined us always by Michael co-host it's Alexander always by Michael co-host it's Alexander always by Michael co-host it's Alexander Mills hello hello and today we're also Mills hello hello and today we're also Mills hello hello and today we're also joined by Benjamin suder once again joined by Benjamin suder once again joined by Benjamin suder once again Benjamin welcome back it's good to be Benjamin welcome back it's good to be Benjamin welcome back it's good to be back two weeks ago Benjamin was on the back two weeks ago Benjamin was on the back two weeks ago Benjamin was on the show Benjamin is a former Life Church show Benjamin is a former Life Church show Benjamin is a former Life Church photographer and now uh still brilliant photographer and now uh still brilliant photographer and now uh still brilliant photographer working with churches uh photographer working with churches uh photographer working with churches uh working with nonprofits and we talked on working with nonprofits and we talked on working with nonprofits and we talked on the recent episode about photographer the recent episode about photographer the recent episode about photographer etiquette we talked about photograph etiquette we talked about photograph etiquette we talked about photograph strategy and today we wanted to bring strategy and today we wanted to bring strategy and today we wanted to bring him back to actually get into Lightroom him back to actually get into Lightroom him back to actually get into Lightroom and so this is going to be one of those and so this is going to be one of those and so this is going to be one of those episodes and when I say one of those episodes and when I say one of those episodes and when I say one of those episodes truly the first ever episode episodes truly the first ever episode episodes truly the first ever episode where I would recommend if you do not where I would recommend if you do not where I would recommend if you do not always watch if you're more of a always watch if you're more of a always watch if you're more of a listener and I respect it I'm a podcast listener and I respect it I'm a podcast listener and I respect it I'm a podcast listener myself frankly I'd be offended listener myself frankly I'd be offended listener myself frankly I'd be offended if a host said that I had to watch this if a host said that I had to watch this if a host said that I had to watch this episode so if you if you take it that episode so if you if you take it that episode so if you if you take it that way that's fine just so you know way that's fine just so you know way that's fine just so you know Alexander across from me cannot see the Alexander across from me cannot see the Alexander across from me cannot see the monitor right there's only one monitor monitor right there's only one monitor monitor right there's only one monitor in the podcast listen Benjamin's going in the podcast listen Benjamin's going in the podcast listen Benjamin's going to be sharing his monitor his screen so to be sharing his monitor his screen so to be sharing his monitor his screen so we can see him working in Lightroom as we can see him working in Lightroom as we can see him working in Lightroom as we go straight at the camera to finished we go straight at the camera to finished we go straight at the camera to finished product on five different photographs

product on five different photographs product on five different photographs that is the goal and so if you go to the that is the goal and so if you go to the that is the goal and so if you go to the YouTube channel the pro Church tool show YouTube channel the pro Church tool show YouTube channel the pro Church tool show you can watch this you're going to get you can watch this you're going to get you can watch this you're going to get to see everything happening in Lightroom to see everything happening in Lightroom to see everything happening in Lightroom if you're like no I am extremely if you're like no I am extremely if you're like no I am extremely stubborn I I I get it sometimes I listen stubborn I I I get it sometimes I listen stubborn I I I get it sometimes I listen to film reviews of films I haven't seen to film reviews of films I haven't seen to film reviews of films I haven't seen cuz I'm like I'm more dedicated to this cuz I'm like I'm more dedicated to this cuz I'm like I'm more dedicated to this podcast than the movie so I get it Alex podcast than the movie so I get it Alex podcast than the movie so I get it Alex is right there with you you're not alone is right there with you you're not alone is right there with you you're not alone and right now we're going to go we're and right now we're going to go we're and right now we're going to go we're going to show you on the screen the going to show you on the screen the going to show you on the screen the before and after of the five photos that before and after of the five photos that before and after of the five photos that we're going to be going through so you we're going to be going through so you we're going to be going through so you can kind of get a preview of what we're can kind of get a preview of what we're can kind of get a preview of what we're going to do uh frankly I've only seen going to do uh frankly I've only seen going to do uh frankly I've only seen the afters but then I just saw the the afters but then I just saw the the afters but then I just saw the before in Lightroom here don't know how before in Lightroom here don't know how before in Lightroom here don't know how we're going to get to this after don't we're going to get to this after don't we're going to get to this after don't know how we're going to do it well I've know how we're going to do it well I've know how we're going to do it well I've been really looking forward to this been really looking forward to this been really looking forward to this episode uh one because I really enjoyed episode uh one because I really enjoyed episode uh one because I really enjoyed our conversation we had with Benjamin a our conversation we had with Benjamin a our conversation we had with Benjamin a couple weeks ago but two this is the couple weeks ago but two this is the couple weeks ago but two this is the type of content that I enjoy and I know type of content that I enjoy and I know type of content that I enjoy and I know you enjoy too watching people's creative you enjoy too watching people's creative you enjoy too watching people's creative process online watching these screen process online watching these screen process online watching these screen shares seeing how you get get from point shares seeing how you get get from point shares seeing how you get get from point A to point B because a lot of us A to point B because a lot of us A to point B because a lot of us especially creatives and today we're especially creatives and today we're especially creatives and today we're talking about church photography see talking about church photography see talking about church photography see that finished project from a Life church that finished project from a Life church that finished project from a Life church or from our favorite um photographer on or from our favorite um photographer on or from our favorite um photographer on Instagram and we just wonder like ah I Instagram and we just wonder like ah I Instagram and we just wonder like ah I wish I could get those tones I wish I wish I could get those tones I wish I wish I could get those tones I wish I could edit like that I wish I could wish could edit like that I wish I could wish could edit like that I wish I could wish I could achieve this and there's that I could achieve this and there's that I could achieve this and there's that that bridge that's missing between that bridge that's missing between that bridge that's missing between taking the photo and and shipping it in taking the photo and and shipping it in taking the photo and and shipping it in this edited form so I'm just really this edited form so I'm just really this edited form so I'm just really excited to see Benjamin's process excited to see Benjamin's process excited to see Benjamin's process because I'm a really big fan of of how because I'm a really big fan of of how because I'm a really big fan of of how he takes photos and how he treats them he takes photos and how he treats them he takes photos and how he treats them so to see the process from point A to so to see the process from point A to so to see the process from point A to point B I am really looking forward to point B I am really looking forward to point B I am really looking forward to it well great you shouldn't be cuz again it well great you shouldn't be cuz again it well great you shouldn't be cuz again you're not going to see anything I'm you're not going to see anything I'm you're not going to see anything I'm going to go back and later okay to that

going to go back and later okay to that going to go back and later okay to that end we also have a pair of presets that end we also have a pair of presets that end we also have a pair of presets that Benjamin has developed that he uses on Benjamin has developed that he uses on Benjamin has developed that he uses on these photos that we are going to make these photos that we are going to make these photos that we are going to make available free to download we'll share available free to download we'll share available free to download we'll share those uh later on there's a black and those uh later on there's a black and those uh later on there's a black and white one cuz we got a couple black and white one cuz we got a couple black and white one cuz we got a couple black and white oo stylized images and then we've white oo stylized images and then we've white oo stylized images and then we've got kind of the main crispy one to share got kind of the main crispy one to share got kind of the main crispy one to share with you as well Benjamin we'll kick it with you as well Benjamin we'll kick it with you as well Benjamin we'll kick it over to you feel free to begin sharing over to you feel free to begin sharing over to you feel free to begin sharing your screen at this time and we'll start your screen at this time and we'll start your screen at this time and we'll start before we get into like the specific before we get into like the specific before we get into like the specific edit can you tell us about your kind of edit can you tell us about your kind of edit can you tell us about your kind of Bird's eyee view plan for editing uh do Bird's eyee view plan for editing uh do Bird's eyee view plan for editing uh do you start with exposure do you start you start with exposure do you start you start with exposure do you start start with white balance where do you start with white balance where do you start with white balance where do you begin and then walk us through the steps begin and then walk us through the steps begin and then walk us through the steps and then we can get real granular you and then we can get real granular you and then we can get real granular you can do it on the first photo yeah so can do it on the first photo yeah so can do it on the first photo yeah so overall like well first thank you for overall like well first thank you for overall like well first thank you for having me back the chance to talk having me back the chance to talk having me back the chance to talk through editing uh I love this process I through editing uh I love this process I through editing uh I love this process I usually have a good song or a TV show usually have a good song or a TV show usually have a good song or a TV show going in the background so this is going going in the background so this is going going in the background so this is going to require more brainpower for me to be to require more brainpower for me to be to require more brainpower for me to be able to put into words what exactly what able to put into words what exactly what able to put into words what exactly what I'm doing versus just whatever I'm I'm doing versus just whatever I'm I'm doing versus just whatever I'm listening to listening to listening to um so this is going to be a good um so this is going to be a good um so this is going to be a good exercise for me too um what I really exercise for me too um what I really exercise for me too um what I really like to start with is just getting the like to start with is just getting the like to start with is just getting the overall uh white balance and initial overall uh white balance and initial overall uh white balance and initial tones correct so like the exposure the tones correct so like the exposure the tones correct so like the exposure the highlights Shadows uh that's some of my highlights Shadows uh that's some of my highlights Shadows uh that's some of my first process um and then I like getting first process um and then I like getting first process um and then I like getting into um just some of the basic color into um just some of the basic color into um just some of the basic color adjustments so the Hue adjustments so the Hue adjustments so the Hue saturations um and some of the saturations um and some of the saturations um and some of the calibration in that way and then tone calibration in that way and then tone calibration in that way and then tone curve uh but overall a lot of the curve uh but overall a lot of the curve uh but overall a lot of the strategy for me is sometimes you you get strategy for me is sometimes you you get strategy for me is sometimes you you get the general look that you're going for

the general look that you're going for the general look that you're going for and then you're kind of pushing sliders and then you're kind of pushing sliders and then you're kind of pushing sliders Left Right trying to dial it in uh just Left Right trying to dial it in uh just Left Right trying to dial it in uh just a little bit more so you're going to see a little bit more so you're going to see a little bit more so you're going to see probably an initial uh look of here probably an initial uh look of here probably an initial uh look of here starting with this box then next then starting with this box then next then starting with this box then next then next and then it's going to be kind of next and then it's going to be kind of next and then it's going to be kind of flipping back and forth and dialing it flipping back and forth and dialing it flipping back and forth and dialing it in a little further um My overall and if in a little further um My overall and if in a little further um My overall and if I can I can I can interject Benjamin already mentioned interject Benjamin already mentioned interject Benjamin already mentioned this typically he's listening to a song this typically he's listening to a song this typically he's listening to a song or watching a show there's a reason why or watching a show there's a reason why or watching a show there's a reason why you don't often get this type of insight you don't often get this type of insight you don't often get this type of insight into a creative process because it is into a creative process because it is into a creative process because it is not natural as someone that has done not natural as someone that has done not natural as someone that has done this before many times to commentate on this before many times to commentate on this before many times to commentate on your own work as you do it so we're very your own work as you do it so we're very your own work as you do it so we're very appreciative for Benjamin letting us do appreciative for Benjamin letting us do appreciative for Benjamin letting us do this uh back to you my man sorry about this uh back to you my man sorry about this uh back to you my man sorry about that oh you're good yeah this is this is that oh you're good yeah this is this is that oh you're good yeah this is this is new for me and I'm excited to have you new for me and I'm excited to have you new for me and I'm excited to have you along the journey with it um I wanted a along the journey with it um I wanted a along the journey with it um I wanted a little bit briefly talk about my overall little bit briefly talk about my overall little bit briefly talk about my overall philosophy around editing this has philosophy around editing this has philosophy around editing this has helped me helped me helped me immensely um immensely um immensely um when I started doing this is you when I when I started doing this is you when I when I started doing this is you when I edit a photo I don't try to edit to edit a photo I don't try to edit to edit a photo I don't try to edit to exactly what it looked like I try to exactly what it looked like I try to exactly what it looked like I try to edit to what it felt like um and I feel edit to what it felt like um and I feel edit to what it felt like um and I feel by doing this doing it this way you're by doing this doing it this way you're by doing this doing it this way you're better able to represent what you see in better able to represent what you see in better able to represent what you see in front of you versus if you were trying front of you versus if you were trying front of you versus if you were trying to edit exactly what it looked like to edit exactly what it looked like to edit exactly what it looked like because if you think about memory and if because if you think about memory and if because if you think about memory and if you think about things in your past um you think about things in your past um you think about things in your past um it's you're usually tied to the emotions it's you're usually tied to the emotions it's you're usually tied to the emotions of the moment and what you felt that's of the moment and what you felt that's of the moment and what you felt that's the strongest thing you remember when it the strongest thing you remember when it the strongest thing you remember when it comes to some of these things and when comes to some of these things and when comes to some of these things and when you're remembering back and trying to you're remembering back and trying to you're remembering back and trying to reflect and it's the easiest way then to

reflect and it's the easiest way then to reflect and it's the easiest way then to get people to engage with your photos get people to engage with your photos get people to engage with your photos and engage with some of the visual and engage with some of the visual and engage with some of the visual content you're putting out because content you're putting out because content you're putting out because emotions and memories people people emotions and memories people people emotions and memories people people connect to that uh so that's a bit of a connect to that uh so that's a bit of a connect to that uh so that's a bit of a little Insider my brain of how I try to little Insider my brain of how I try to little Insider my brain of how I try to edit it it usually doesn't exactly edit it it usually doesn't exactly edit it it usually doesn't exactly represent what probably it looked like represent what probably it looked like represent what probably it looked like in the moment but I try to represent the in the moment but I try to represent the in the moment but I try to represent the emotion of the moment all right and emotion of the moment all right and emotion of the moment all right and that's so funny because I have used that that's so funny because I have used that that's so funny because I have used that exact line with our team when we color exact line with our team when we color exact line with our team when we color grade I have said exactly we're not grade I have said exactly we're not grade I have said exactly we're not trying to replicate what it looks like trying to replicate what it looks like trying to replicate what it looks like we're trying to replicate what it felt we're trying to replicate what it felt we're trying to replicate what it felt like and I actually think that's a more like and I actually think that's a more like and I actually think that's a more authentic way of working with color and authentic way of working with color and authentic way of working with color and working with life and shaping uh light working with life and shaping uh light working with life and shaping uh light and shaping it because everyone sees and shaping it because everyone sees and shaping it because everyone sees differently I don't know if you've ever differently I don't know if you've ever differently I don't know if you've ever done this thought exercise but sometimes done this thought exercise but sometimes done this thought exercise but sometimes I wonder like what would it be like if I wonder like what would it be like if I wonder like what would it be like if Alex and I switched bodies Freaky Friday Alex and I switched bodies Freaky Friday Alex and I switched bodies Freaky Friday style and I was like wa that's how he style and I was like wa that's how he style and I was like wa that's how he sees because you know we all know that sees because you know we all know that sees because you know we all know that like for instance some people um see like for instance some people um see like for instance some people um see color completely differently whether color completely differently whether color completely differently whether you're you're color blind or whether you're you're color blind or whether you're you're color blind or whether just The receptors are different like is just The receptors are different like is just The receptors are different like is the green I see the same green that the green I see the same green that the green I see the same green that alexes maybe maybe not but the feeling alexes maybe maybe not but the feeling alexes maybe maybe not but the feeling of a place is something that's of a place is something that's of a place is something that's universally shared or more easily universally shared or more easily universally shared or more easily universally shared and so I I I've run universally shared and so I I I've run universally shared and so I I I've run into some folks they like no no I want into some folks they like no no I want into some folks they like no no I want to I want to replicate it exactly how I to I want to replicate it exactly how I to I want to replicate it exactly how I saw it one your memory is corrupt you saw it one your memory is corrupt you saw it one your memory is corrupt you don't remember how you saw it and two don't remember how you saw it and two don't remember how you saw it and two how you saw it might be slightly how you saw it might be slightly how you saw it might be slightly different from how somebody else saw it different from how somebody else saw it different from how somebody else saw it and so leading with how it felt I think and so leading with how it felt I think and so leading with how it felt I think is a better North Star than trying to is a better North Star than trying to is a better North Star than trying to make something crystal clear to what it make something crystal clear to what it make something crystal clear to what it looked like to that end can you tell us

looked like to that end can you tell us looked like to that end can you tell us just briefly about this church cuz I just briefly about this church cuz I just briefly about this church cuz I think this was you visiting this church think this was you visiting this church think this was you visiting this church for the very first time um paint paint for the very first time um paint paint for the very first time um paint paint the scene of like what where this church the scene of like what where this church the scene of like what where this church was kind of meeting um what their stage was kind of meeting um what their stage was kind of meeting um what their stage and Lobby and kind of setup was like and Lobby and kind of setup was like and Lobby and kind of setup was like yeah so this church in particular um yeah so this church in particular um yeah so this church in particular um when you walked into the auditorium it's when you walked into the auditorium it's when you walked into the auditorium it's pretty dark it's it's a gymnasium that pretty dark it's it's a gymnasium that pretty dark it's it's a gymnasium that has been uh fitted into doubling as a has been uh fitted into doubling as a has been uh fitted into doubling as a Auditorium I think what do they call Auditorium I think what do they call Auditorium I think what do they call they a aium I think there's an actual they a aium I think there's an actual they a aium I think there's an actual word that gymatorium I think that's what word that gymatorium I think that's what word that gymatorium I think that's what it is so there's a word it seems like it is so there's a word it seems like it is so there's a word it seems like that's what it was uh converted into that's what it was uh converted into that's what it was uh converted into into um for this congregation to meet in into um for this congregation to meet in into um for this congregation to meet in and so they had a little stage up front and so they had a little stage up front and so they had a little stage up front and the lighting um was very it was and the lighting um was very it was and the lighting um was very it was constant through the entire worship set constant through the entire worship set constant through the entire worship set they didn't have any sort of um they didn't have any sort of um they didn't have any sort of um additional lighting Beyond uh some floor additional lighting Beyond uh some floor additional lighting Beyond uh some floor lights pointing at the backdrop um they lights pointing at the backdrop um they lights pointing at the backdrop um they were just some blue colored lights that were just some blue colored lights that were just some blue colored lights that stayed blue the entire time and then stayed blue the entire time and then stayed blue the entire time and then they had they had they had some I think the proper can lights I some I think the proper can lights I some I think the proper can lights I think above the stage that's where you think above the stage that's where you think above the stage that's where you get some of these warm really yellowish get some of these warm really yellowish get some of these warm really yellowish tones that kind of get introduced and tones that kind of get introduced and tones that kind of get introduced and can distort some of the skin tones um can distort some of the skin tones um can distort some of the skin tones um so that's what I'm working with within so that's what I'm working with within so that's what I'm working with within the auditorium and I'm going to flip the auditorium and I'm going to flip the auditorium and I'm going to flip over real quick so you can see this is over real quick so you can see this is over real quick so you can see this is the lobby um and the lobby was pretty uh the lobby um and the lobby was pretty uh the lobby um and the lobby was pretty uh small it was actually pretty contained small it was actually pretty contained small it was actually pretty contained uh I'd love to throw out a measurement uh I'd love to throw out a measurement uh I'd love to throw out a measurement but I'm not good at this I don't know but I'm not good at this I don't know but I'm not good at this I don't know maybe 50 feet by 80 feet um it's not too

maybe 50 feet by 80 feet um it's not too maybe 50 feet by 80 feet um it's not too large but it was packed people were large but it was packed people were large but it was packed people were really enjoying spending time hanging really enjoying spending time hanging really enjoying spending time hanging out um getting to connect uh in the out um getting to connect uh in the out um getting to connect uh in the lobby um but you'll see there's a lot of lobby um but you'll see there's a lot of lobby um but you'll see there's a lot of yellow in this as well there were yellow yellow in this as well there were yellow yellow in this as well there were yellow walls all of the natural light was walls all of the natural light was walls all of the natural light was coming from One Direction the front coming from One Direction the front coming from One Direction the front doors um which is coming from behind me doors um which is coming from behind me doors um which is coming from behind me if you see in this image which is a if you see in this image which is a if you see in this image which is a strategy to use when you're shooting in strategy to use when you're shooting in strategy to use when you're shooting in these situations look for where the these situations look for where the these situations look for where the natural light is coming for coming from natural light is coming for coming from natural light is coming for coming from and if you can figure out how to and if you can figure out how to and if you can figure out how to position yourself between that natural position yourself between that natural position yourself between that natural light and your subject you're going to light and your subject you're going to light and your subject you're going to get uh it's going to be easier to edit get uh it's going to be easier to edit get uh it's going to be easier to edit and post it's going to be easier to get and post it's going to be easier to get and post it's going to be easier to get a pleasing image if you're able to a pleasing image if you're able to a pleasing image if you're able to position yourself in that way um so yeah position yourself in that way um so yeah position yourself in that way um so yeah tight shooting space uh yellow walls and tight shooting space uh yellow walls and tight shooting space uh yellow walls and the classrooms they had where maybe some the classrooms they had where maybe some the classrooms they had where maybe some students were at very similar situation students were at very similar situation students were at very similar situation kind of smaller um not a lot of like uh kind of smaller um not a lot of like uh kind of smaller um not a lot of like uh what you would consider high quality what you would consider high quality what you would consider high quality lighting for photography or video uh in lighting for photography or video uh in lighting for photography or video uh in those situations this is perfect yes those situations this is perfect yes those situations this is perfect yes this is probably what a lot of people this is probably what a lot of people this is probably what a lot of people are dealing with yes meeting in a school are dealing with yes meeting in a school are dealing with yes meeting in a school right like I think previously we we've right like I think previously we we've right like I think previously we we've had you on and we were looking at this had you on and we were looking at this had you on and we were looking at this really good setup and I think it's easy really good setup and I think it's easy really good setup and I think it's easy to look at that and think to yourself ah to look at that and think to yourself ah to look at that and think to yourself ah like anyone can make a photo look great like anyone can make a photo look great like anyone can make a photo look great there and the skills that we're about to there and the skills that we're about to there and the skills that we're about to talk through and you're about to learn talk through and you're about to learn talk through and you're about to learn and see being deployed is how you can and see being deployed is how you can and see being deployed is how you can take really any church setup and make it take really any church setup and make it take really any church setup and make it look awesome and and put the people on

look awesome and and put the people on look awesome and and put the people on display to shine because that is what we display to shine because that is what we display to shine because that is what we are trying to do with these photos we're are trying to do with these photos we're are trying to do with these photos we're trying to take the heartbeat of your trying to take the heartbeat of your trying to take the heartbeat of your church the DNA which is the people the church the DNA which is the people the church the DNA which is the people the church is the people and and display church is the people and and display church is the people and and display them in a way that you can just see the them in a way that you can just see the them in a way that you can just see the image of God in them great so let's image of God in them great so let's image of God in them great so let's start with the first image um this first start with the first image um this first start with the first image um this first image is taken during worship I try I image is taken during worship I try I image is taken during worship I try I think I mentioned in the last episode think I mentioned in the last episode think I mentioned in the last episode and if missed out on that one I like to and if missed out on that one I like to and if missed out on that one I like to try to get to worship or soundcheck so try to get to worship or soundcheck so try to get to worship or soundcheck so then I can get up in stage I can get up then I can get up in stage I can get up then I can get up in stage I can get up close and be able to get some really fun close and be able to get some really fun close and be able to get some really fun interesting photos without being a interesting photos without being a interesting photos without being a distraction to the congregants um and so distraction to the congregants um and so distraction to the congregants um and so that's what I did for this this was that's what I did for this this was that's what I did for this this was taken during sound check uh it's I'm taken during sound check uh it's I'm taken during sound check uh it's I'm very close I'm shooting 24 millimeter as very close I'm shooting 24 millimeter as very close I'm shooting 24 millimeter as you can see is some of my my data up you can see is some of my my data up you can see is some of my my data up here uh and again I'm working with here uh and again I'm working with here uh and again I'm working with lighting that isn't necessarily super lighting that isn't necessarily super lighting that isn't necessarily super interesting uh so I shot with a filter interesting uh so I shot with a filter interesting uh so I shot with a filter which is a streak you can see up here which is a streak you can see up here which is a streak you can see up here was all done in camera uh and this was all done in camera uh and this was all done in camera uh and this hopefully added some Intrigue to where hopefully added some Intrigue to where hopefully added some Intrigue to where there might not be any uh and so what I there might not be any uh and so what I there might not be any uh and so what I really want to do is just add excitement really want to do is just add excitement really want to do is just add excitement add some emotion to what's going on and add some emotion to what's going on and add some emotion to what's going on and so just start this out like I said so just start this out like I said so just start this out like I said earlier I kind of start in this tone uh earlier I kind of start in this tone uh earlier I kind of start in this tone uh in this white balance area usually uh in this white balance area usually uh in this white balance area usually uh outside of worship I will take this outside of worship I will take this outside of worship I will take this little eye dropper and try to find a little eye dropper and try to find a little eye dropper and try to find a spot that's like new neutral to the spot that's like new neutral to the spot that's like new neutral to the color of right now that's not working color of right now that's not working color of right now that's not working because of that uh I need to find like a because of that uh I need to find like a because of that uh I need to find like a it's not it can't be Pure White it's got it's not it can't be Pure White it's got it's not it can't be Pure White it's got to be just a little offwhite to be able to be just a little offwhite to be able to be just a little offwhite to be able to get that eye dropper what that's to get that eye dropper what that's to get that eye dropper what that's going to do is it's going to WIP balance

going to do is it's going to WIP balance going to do is it's going to WIP balance your image to make sure you're getting a your image to make sure you're getting a your image to make sure you're getting a little bit more accurate with your color little bit more accurate with your color little bit more accurate with your color temperatures and the tenting is you see temperatures and the tenting is you see temperatures and the tenting is you see it auto adjusted here um so I usually it auto adjusted here um so I usually it auto adjusted here um so I usually start with that a lot but since it's start with that a lot but since it's start with that a lot but since it's worship photos there's a lot of crazy worship photos there's a lot of crazy worship photos there's a lot of crazy lights going on sometimes and I like to lights going on sometimes and I like to lights going on sometimes and I like to get a little more fun with it as you'll get a little more fun with it as you'll get a little more fun with it as you'll see um so going into the tone a lot of see um so going into the tone a lot of see um so going into the tone a lot of what I'll do is I I drop the highlights what I'll do is I I drop the highlights what I'll do is I I drop the highlights until I get detail back in to where until I get detail back in to where until I get detail back in to where maybe it was blown out so if you see maybe it was blown out so if you see maybe it was blown out so if you see that before you're not really getting a that before you're not really getting a that before you're not really getting a lot of detail here in his arm you're lot of detail here in his arm you're lot of detail here in his arm you're losing it here on his forehead here and losing it here on his forehead here and losing it here on his forehead here and so I just bring those highlights down to so I just bring those highlights down to so I just bring those highlights down to bring it a little back in bring some bring it a little back in bring some bring it a little back in bring some color back in uh to the details and I'll color back in uh to the details and I'll color back in uh to the details and I'll boost the Shadows just a little bit um boost the Shadows just a little bit um boost the Shadows just a little bit um next I'll move on to the whites and this next I'll move on to the whites and this next I'll move on to the whites and this is uh dealing with the upper end of the is uh dealing with the upper end of the is uh dealing with the upper end of the spectrum you see in this histogram in spectrum you see in this histogram in spectrum you see in this histogram in the top right corner whites are dealing the top right corner whites are dealing the top right corner whites are dealing with the very top end of your your uh with the very top end of your your uh with the very top end of your your uh your spectrum and you'll see blacks here your spectrum and you'll see blacks here your spectrum and you'll see blacks here are dealing with the very bottom end so are dealing with the very bottom end so are dealing with the very bottom end so this is how you can either round out this is how you can either round out this is how you can either round out some of those highest the higher details some of those highest the higher details some of those highest the higher details of the histogram you can lower it and it of the histogram you can lower it and it of the histogram you can lower it and it flattens it a little bit which I T I flattens it a little bit which I T I flattens it a little bit which I T I like lowering the whites a little bit like lowering the whites a little bit like lowering the whites a little bit because it it helps flatten the upper because it it helps flatten the upper because it it helps flatten the upper range uh that's just my style that's my range uh that's just my style that's my range uh that's just my style that's my preference I I like doing it in in that preference I I like doing it in in that preference I I like doing it in in that manner um and you'll see if I do it the manner um and you'll see if I do it the manner um and you'll see if I do it the blacks it's really blacks it's really blacks it's really darkening the lower regions the darker darkening the lower regions the darker darkening the lower regions the darker the Shadows of the image versus this the Shadows of the image versus this the Shadows of the image versus this will bring it up and kind of um you'll

will bring it up and kind of um you'll will bring it up and kind of um you'll get more detail in the blacks so I kind get more detail in the blacks so I kind get more detail in the blacks so I kind of leave this these stay pretty middle of leave this these stay pretty middle of leave this these stay pretty middle uh range for me I don't get too dramatic uh range for me I don't get too dramatic uh range for me I don't get too dramatic with the whites or the black slider and with the whites or the black slider and with the whites or the black slider and a fun little trick you can hold the a fun little trick you can hold the a fun little trick you can hold the option key if you're on Mac and uh I'm option key if you're on Mac and uh I'm option key if you're on Mac and uh I'm not windows so I'm going to be a little not windows so I'm going to be a little not windows so I'm going to be a little lost on giving you what the windows uh lost on giving you what the windows uh lost on giving you what the windows uh hotkey is but if I it might be alt is hotkey is but if I it might be alt is hotkey is but if I it might be alt is it um alt and option are usually the two it um alt and option are usually the two it um alt and option are usually the two interchangeable yeah great so yeah I interchangeable yeah great so yeah I interchangeable yeah great so yeah I hold that button and this will allow you hold that button and this will allow you hold that button and this will allow you to kind of see where you're losing to kind of see where you're losing to kind of see where you're losing detail so if I bring the whites all the detail so if I bring the whites all the detail so if I bring the whites all the way up where you're seeing those details way up where you're seeing those details way up where you're seeing those details you're starting to lose that information you're starting to lose that information you're starting to lose that information you see how blown out that is like that you see how blown out that is like that you see how blown out that is like that is we don't want it there that looks bad is we don't want it there that looks bad is we don't want it there that looks bad we want to bring it down and A good rule we want to bring it down and A good rule we want to bring it down and A good rule of thumb I've heard is like usually you of thumb I've heard is like usually you of thumb I've heard is like usually you can like if you leave the slider where can like if you leave the slider where can like if you leave the slider where it just kind of falls off like you see it just kind of falls off like you see it just kind of falls off like you see there it's falling off in the bottom there it's falling off in the bottom there it's falling off in the bottom left corner that's usually a good spot left corner that's usually a good spot left corner that's usually a good spot to put it same with the black so you can to put it same with the black so you can to put it same with the black so you can do it you can see right here where here do it you can see right here where here do it you can see right here where here we're losing information it's so dark we're losing information it's so dark we're losing information it's so dark you can't really see any of the details you can't really see any of the details you can't really see any of the details you're losing that information I can you're losing that information I can you're losing that information I can hold alt use the slider and then I'm I hold alt use the slider and then I'm I hold alt use the slider and then I'm I can balance that out so you're starting can balance that out so you're starting can balance that out so you're starting to see uh more of that detail to see uh more of that detail to see uh more of that detail um any questions so far um any questions so far um any questions so far okay I want to go back to White balce so okay I want to go back to White balce so okay I want to go back to White balce so there are a number of different ways to there are a number of different ways to there are a number of different ways to do this I feel like it's crucial to get do this I feel like it's crucial to get do this I feel like it's crucial to get this right especially with Stage photos this right especially with Stage photos this right especially with Stage photos so obviously you shot in camera Auto so obviously you shot in camera Auto so obviously you shot in camera Auto white balance right yes I did

white balance right yes I did white balance right yes I did great that's option number one option great that's option number one option great that's option number one option number two is using Lightroom and using number two is using Lightroom and using number two is using Lightroom and using their Auto white balance option the their Auto white balance option the their Auto white balance option the third option you took the eye dropper third option you took the eye dropper third option you took the eye dropper tool and you found a part of the image tool and you found a part of the image tool and you found a part of the image that wasn't pure white but was very that wasn't pure white but was very that wasn't pure white but was very close to White and then put the dropper close to White and then put the dropper close to White and then put the dropper directly on that part of the image which directly on that part of the image which directly on that part of the image which of those is going to be superior why and of those is going to be superior why and of those is going to be superior why and is that specific to a stage photo where is that specific to a stage photo where is that specific to a stage photo where there's lots of weird lighting things there's lots of weird lighting things there's lots of weird lighting things going on or why oh this is where you're going on or why oh this is where you're going on or why oh this is where you're probably going to get me here I uh I I I probably going to get me here I uh I I I probably going to get me here I uh I I I think for me it's like what works best think for me it's like what works best think for me it's like what works best for your workflow because I know one of for your workflow because I know one of for your workflow because I know one of the photographers I worked with at Life the photographers I worked with at Life the photographers I worked with at Life Church she would purposefully like she Church she would purposefully like she Church she would purposefully like she would set white balance in camera so would set white balance in camera so would set white balance in camera so it's constant the entire time it's constant the entire time it's constant the entire time um and she would switch it based on her um and she would switch it based on her um and she would switch it based on her sociopathic Behavior Behavior real but sociopathic Behavior Behavior real but sociopathic Behavior Behavior real but she was good at it she would like okay she was good at it she would like okay she was good at it she would like okay this looks like I don't know 5600 Kelvin this looks like I don't know 5600 Kelvin this looks like I don't know 5600 Kelvin or 3200 Kev and she would switch who say or 3200 Kev and she would switch who say or 3200 Kev and she would switch who say Kelvin it was mind-blowing to me she's Kelvin it was mind-blowing to me she's Kelvin it was mind-blowing to me she's different uh she's a her background is different uh she's a her background is different uh she's a her background is wedding photography incredible wedding wedding photography incredible wedding wedding photography incredible wedding photographers so she's just yeah she photographers so she's just yeah she photographers so she's just yeah she built different with being able to do built different with being able to do built different with being able to do that 5600 everything I'm outside oh yeah that 5600 everything I'm outside oh yeah that 5600 everything I'm outside oh yeah 5600 yeah yeah but if you have 5600 yeah yeah but if you have 5600 yeah yeah but if you have consistent stage lighting like during consistent stage lighting like during consistent stage lighting like during speakers it's actually not a bad idea to speakers it's actually not a bad idea to speakers it's actually not a bad idea to if you have a maybe a lighting if you have a maybe a lighting if you have a maybe a lighting technician to go up to them and ask them technician to go up to them and ask them technician to go up to them and ask them like what do you have things set to like what do you have things set to like what do you have things set to because I would do that at Life church because I would do that at Life church because I would do that at Life church so if there were a lighting technician

so if there were a lighting technician so if there were a lighting technician that I could talk to and be like what that I could talk to and be like what that I could talk to and be like what what are your stage lights kind of set what are your stage lights kind of set what are your stage lights kind of set to and I would actually I would set it to and I would actually I would set it to and I would actually I would set it in camera um so when I would shoot in camera um so when I would shoot in camera um so when I would shoot Pastor Craig on uh when he was recording Pastor Craig on uh when he was recording Pastor Craig on uh when he was recording or when he was on stage uh we typically or when he was on stage uh we typically or when he was on stage uh we typically shot around 5400 Kelvin so I would I had shot around 5400 Kelvin so I would I had shot around 5400 Kelvin so I would I had it pre-programmed in my camera at least it pre-programmed in my camera at least it pre-programmed in my camera at least that's what it looked good on my camera that's what it looked good on my camera that's what it looked good on my camera I think technically they had it set like I think technically they had it set like I think technically they had it set like 5,500 but I shot for 54 but um it's so I 5,500 but I shot for 54 but um it's so I 5,500 but I shot for 54 but um it's so I would set it so it is consistent uh would set it so it is consistent uh would set it so it is consistent uh because sometimes you have moving because sometimes you have moving because sometimes you have moving backgrounds and it shifts and you want backgrounds and it shifts and you want backgrounds and it shifts and you want to make sure you preserve skin tone uh to make sure you preserve skin tone uh to make sure you preserve skin tone uh so if you have that opportunity I think so if you have that opportunity I think so if you have that opportunity I think it is the best but like you said it's it is the best but like you said it's it is the best but like you said it's it's uh pretty hard it's very it's uh pretty hard it's very it's uh pretty hard it's very unapproachable it it takes a lot of unapproachable it it takes a lot of unapproachable it it takes a lot of experience I would say to get to the experience I would say to get to the experience I would say to get to the point where if you don't have somebody point where if you don't have somebody point where if you don't have somebody to ask what's the lighting temperatures to ask what's the lighting temperatures to ask what's the lighting temperatures uh you need a auto white balance is what uh you need a auto white balance is what uh you need a auto white balance is what works great for me um cameras are ever works great for me um cameras are ever works great for me um cameras are ever getting better the way you're doing it getting better the way you're doing it getting better the way you're doing it the way you're doing it is is exactly the way you're doing it is is exactly the way you're doing it is is exactly how I prefer to do it um in a before I how I prefer to do it um in a before I how I prefer to do it um in a before I started using the ey dropper tool I started using the ey dropper tool I started using the ey dropper tool I would try to handle these three sliders would try to handle these three sliders would try to handle these three sliders you know white balance tint and you know white balance tint and you know white balance tint and temperature by hand and by eye and for temperature by hand and by eye and for temperature by hand and by eye and for anyone who's ever manipulated a photo anyone who's ever manipulated a photo anyone who's ever manipulated a photo using these three sliders you know that using these three sliders you know that using these three sliders you know that it's really easy to just get a really it's really easy to just get a really it's really easy to just get a really bad looking a really bad colored photo bad looking a really bad colored photo bad looking a really bad colored photo by trying to manually manipulate these by trying to manually manipulate these by trying to manually manipulate these sliders but I did that for a long time sliders but I did that for a long time sliders but I did that for a long time this is this is a decade ago um but you this is this is a decade ago um but you this is this is a decade ago um but you just said it like we're trying to nail just said it like we're trying to nail just said it like we're trying to nail skin tone we are trying to be true to

skin tone we are trying to be true to skin tone we are trying to be true to what was going on in the room or what what was going on in the room or what what was going on in the room or what was going on in the space and we're was going on in the space and we're was going on in the space and we're definitely trying to be true to how it definitely trying to be true to how it definitely trying to be true to how it felt and so using this ey dropper tool felt and so using this ey dropper tool felt and so using this ey dropper tool in my experience as well is both the in my experience as well is both the in my experience as well is both the quickest and most accurate way to quickest and most accurate way to quickest and most accurate way to achieve the right tones in that image achieve the right tones in that image achieve the right tones in that image because you're letting the because you're letting the because you're letting the software uh do its work based off a tone software uh do its work based off a tone software uh do its work based off a tone from that image so it's not from your from that image so it's not from your from that image so it's not from your memory it's not from your best judgment memory it's not from your best judgment memory it's not from your best judgment it's you're pulling a gray tone out of it's you're pulling a gray tone out of it's you're pulling a gray tone out of that image and letting the software do that image and letting the software do that image and letting the software do its work um and so I I'm with you out of its work um and so I I'm with you out of its work um and so I I'm with you out of those three options that's how I prefer those three options that's how I prefer those three options that's how I prefer to do white balance as well I do want to to do white balance as well I do want to to do white balance as well I do want to address one thing which is this um address one thing which is this um address one thing which is this um assumption that we've been operating assumption that we've been operating assumption that we've been operating under but I just want to say it out loud under but I just want to say it out loud under but I just want to say it out loud which is this is this is for the folks which is this is this is for the folks which is this is this is for the folks who are listening and watching this is who are listening and watching this is who are listening and watching this is this is why you have to be shooting and this is why you have to be shooting and this is why you have to be shooting and editing Raw photos compared to jpegs I editing Raw photos compared to jpegs I editing Raw photos compared to jpegs I just don't want that to just to go just don't want that to just to go just don't want that to just to go unsaid or or or under acknowledged like unsaid or or or under acknowledged like unsaid or or or under acknowledged like you can't do and we're just starting you can't do and we're just starting you can't do and we're just starting here with white balance right you can't here with white balance right you can't here with white balance right you can't manipulate jpegs this way they will fall manipulate jpegs this way they will fall manipulate jpegs this way they will fall apart and so if if your camera has the apart and so if if your camera has the apart and so if if your camera has the capability which most do our iPhones capability which most do our iPhones capability which most do our iPhones have this capability now it's imperative have this capability now it's imperative have this capability now it's imperative that if you're shooting photos in your that if you're shooting photos in your that if you're shooting photos in your church especially in tricky lighting church especially in tricky lighting church especially in tricky lighting situations if you want to take control situations if you want to take control situations if you want to take control of them and post you have to be shooting of them and post you have to be shooting of them and post you have to be shooting and raw to give yourself the amount of and raw to give yourself the amount of and raw to give yourself the amount of data that you need the amount of data that you need the amount of data that you need the amount of information you need to be able to information you need to be able to information you need to be able to manipulate the colors and get them to a manipulate the colors and get them to a manipulate the colors and get them to a place where it's true honest authentic place where it's true honest authentic place where it's true honest authentic okay I want to do a before and after can okay I want to do a before and after can okay I want to do a before and after can you show me what the white balance was

you show me what the white balance was you show me what the white balance was out of camera like what what what what out of camera like what what what what out of camera like what what what what did the camera think it was supposed to did the camera think it was supposed to did the camera think it was supposed to be be be at so that's what it looked like before at so that's what it looked like before at so that's what it looked like before what the number was it was 3100 so it's what the number was it was 3100 so it's what the number was it was 3100 so it's not too far off uh so what was it with not too far off uh so what was it with not too far off uh so what was it with the eye dropper with the eye dropper it the eye dropper with the eye dropper it the eye dropper with the eye dropper it was was was 2950 okay close pretty close the idea 2950 okay close pretty close the idea 2950 okay close pretty close the idea with the eye dropper just to be certain with the eye dropper just to be certain with the eye dropper just to be certain so you take it and you put it on a part so you take it and you put it on a part so you take it and you put it on a part of the image that you know is supposed of the image that you know is supposed of the image that you know is supposed to be white but the idea is that it's to be white but the idea is that it's to be white but the idea is that it's not exactly white and then the the AI not exactly white and then the the AI not exactly white and then the the AI will be like that's that that that's will be like that's that that that's will be like that's that that that's that's kind of the theory here yeah yes that's kind of the theory here yeah yes that's kind of the theory here yeah yes yes what happens when um you don't have yes what happens when um you don't have yes what happens when um you don't have a white part in the image uh well that's a white part in the image uh well that's a white part in the image uh well that's where I probably I do it by hand a where I probably I do it by hand a where I probably I do it by hand a little bit um it is a little bit more of little bit um it is a little bit more of little bit um it is a little bit more of I I watch the skin tones I do try to I I watch the skin tones I do try to I I watch the skin tones I do try to make sure I preserve that as best as I make sure I preserve that as best as I make sure I preserve that as best as I can so like if I if I had a start from can so like if I if I had a start from can so like if I if I had a start from um I accidentally adjusted that but like um I accidentally adjusted that but like um I accidentally adjusted that but like if I had a start where temperature was if I had a start where temperature was if I had a start where temperature was you know where it's at which again like you know where it's at which again like you know where it's at which again like this I would say this is almost this I would say this is almost this I would say this is almost acceptable like I could work with this acceptable like I could work with this acceptable like I could work with this and adjust I'm going to adjust colors and adjust I'm going to adjust colors and adjust I'm going to adjust colors anyway way and work with things so this anyway way and work with things so this anyway way and work with things so this to me it works okay um but I would to me it works okay um but I would to me it works okay um but I would probably like I would just slowly like probably like I would just slowly like probably like I would just slowly like move it back until I feel like okay the move it back until I feel like okay the move it back until I feel like okay the skin tones I'm not getting it's not skin tones I'm not getting it's not skin tones I'm not getting it's not looking too cool like there's not he looking too cool like there's not he looking too cool like there's not he like here it's like it's way too cool

like here it's like it's way too cool like here it's like it's way too cool looks like he's in a refrigerator at looks like he's in a refrigerator at looks like he's in a refrigerator at some restaurant um and he's been stuck some restaurant um and he's been stuck some restaurant um and he's been stuck in there for a few hours whereas like if in there for a few hours whereas like if in there for a few hours whereas like if you go a little further to the right you go a little further to the right you go a little further to the right it's like it's a Florida Beach Tan here it's like it's a Florida Beach Tan here it's like it's a Florida Beach Tan here going on so I just try to like keep it going on so I just try to like keep it going on so I just try to like keep it like where does it feel like it can like where does it feel like it can like where does it feel like it can sit and feel natural uh if I was just sit and feel natural uh if I was just sit and feel natural uh if I was just like standing across from him um and like standing across from him um and like standing across from him um and sometimes it gets hard when you're sometimes it gets hard when you're sometimes it gets hard when you're dealing with uh stage lighting not in dealing with uh stage lighting not in dealing with uh stage lighting not in this case they they kind of had um you this case they they kind of had um you this case they they kind of had um you know more natural lighting to it you'd know more natural lighting to it you'd know more natural lighting to it you'd maybe see reflected but like if they maybe see reflected but like if they maybe see reflected but like if they have like green lights and if they have have like green lights and if they have have like green lights and if they have purple magentas flying in magentas are purple magentas flying in magentas are purple magentas flying in magentas are always really hard for me to work with always really hard for me to work with always really hard for me to work with truthfully um but if you have all these truthfully um but if you have all these truthfully um but if you have all these colors like coming in uh it can get hard colors like coming in uh it can get hard colors like coming in uh it can get hard to preserve the skin tones so sometimes to preserve the skin tones so sometimes to preserve the skin tones so sometimes I actually just lean into it I lean into I actually just lean into it I lean into I actually just lean into it I lean into the fun colors I lean into the vibrancy the fun colors I lean into the vibrancy the fun colors I lean into the vibrancy of all these lights going on and that's of all these lights going on and that's of all these lights going on and that's what we go back to edit to what it felt what we go back to edit to what it felt what we go back to edit to what it felt like not necessarily what it should look like not necessarily what it should look like not necessarily what it should look like yeah earlier when you were talking like yeah earlier when you were talking like yeah earlier when you were talking about editing to how these photos feel I about editing to how these photos feel I about editing to how these photos feel I was going to I was going to tell the was going to I was going to tell the was going to I was going to tell the story then but I I I need to tell it now story then but I I I need to tell it now story then but I I I need to tell it now based off what you just said I used to based off what you just said I used to based off what you just said I used to shoot a lot of band photos at this shoot a lot of band photos at this shoot a lot of band photos at this nightclub called L3 and it was like the nightclub called L3 and it was like the nightclub called L3 and it was like the most popular like spot for local music most popular like spot for local music most popular like spot for local music in the city but in the city but in the city but notoriously just like went hard with the notoriously just like went hard with the notoriously just like went hard with the magentas and the red lights and I shot magentas and the red lights and I shot magentas and the red lights and I shot photos there and I shot videos there and photos there and I shot videos there and photos there and I shot videos there and the first couple times I really the first couple times I really the first couple times I really struggled because I was trying to fight struggled because I was trying to fight struggled because I was trying to fight against the lighting trying to like

against the lighting trying to like against the lighting trying to like achieve a natural skin tone when in all achieve a natural skin tone when in all achieve a natural skin tone when in all reality there is no natural skin tone in reality there is no natural skin tone in reality there is no natural skin tone in there like the artist skin is completely there like the artist skin is completely there like the artist skin is completely magenta and so I had to tell the truth magenta and so I had to tell the truth magenta and so I had to tell the truth about how that nightclub Feels by about how that nightclub Feels by about how that nightclub Feels by leaning into the magentas and not trying leaning into the magentas and not trying leaning into the magentas and not trying to uh recover some natural skin tone to uh recover some natural skin tone to uh recover some natural skin tone that was never there in the first place that was never there in the first place that was never there in the first place their their skin looks purple in the in their their skin looks purple in the in their their skin looks purple in the in real life and so I had to break some real life and so I had to break some real life and so I had to break some some rules and lean into that and that some rules and lean into that and that some rules and lean into that and that ended up you know being translated into ended up you know being translated into ended up you know being translated into a more true image of what the space a more true image of what the space a more true image of what the space looks like and feels like so sometimes looks like and feels like so sometimes looks like and feels like so sometimes depending on the lighting situation depending on the lighting situation depending on the lighting situation you're right you just kind of have to you're right you just kind of have to you're right you just kind of have to just kind of have to deal with it I just kind of have to deal with it I just kind of have to deal with it I think that's really useful think that's really useful think that's really useful and I want to just do one quick final and I want to just do one quick final and I want to just do one quick final white balance experiment Benjamin can white balance experiment Benjamin can white balance experiment Benjamin can you tell me what Lightroom would set you tell me what Lightroom would set you tell me what Lightroom would set that if you said to Lightroom what would that if you said to Lightroom what would that if you said to Lightroom what would you do in white balance here okay yeah you do in white balance here okay yeah you do in white balance here okay yeah let's see this Auto button up top we'll let's see this Auto button up top we'll let's see this Auto button up top we'll see what happens see what happens see what happens here uh oh and that was actually my tone here uh oh and that was actually my tone here uh oh and that was actually my tone sorry let me do auto here it's this drop sorry let me do auto here it's this drop sorry let me do auto here it's this drop down menu here let's see what it says down menu here let's see what it says down menu here let's see what it says here Auto it's 2950 so with the ey drop here Auto it's 2950 so with the ey drop here Auto it's 2950 so with the ey drop tool let me un do two things that I did tool let me un do two things that I did tool let me un do two things that I did there get back to our natural starting there get back to our natural starting there get back to our natural starting spot but yeah it'll it's when you Auto spot but yeah it'll it's when you Auto spot but yeah it'll it's when you Auto it within Lightroom that little drop it within Lightroom that little drop it within Lightroom that little drop down menu it's set in the two uh 2950 down menu it's set in the two uh 2950 down menu it's set in the two uh 2950 which is what we got with the ey drop which is what we got with the ey drop which is what we got with the ey drop tool okay okay interesting sometimes tool okay okay interesting sometimes tool okay okay interesting sometimes they can be even different between the they can be even different between the they can be even different between the ey drop tool and the auto but it seems

ey drop tool and the auto but it seems ey drop tool and the auto but it seems like it's doing the exact same thing in like it's doing the exact same thing in like it's doing the exact same thing in Auto that we're doing manually with the Auto that we're doing manually with the Auto that we're doing manually with the ey drop tool okay we've done white balce ey drop tool okay we've done white balce ey drop tool okay we've done white balce we did initial adjustments where are we we did initial adjustments where are we we did initial adjustments where are we going next so I do briefly want to talk going next so I do briefly want to talk going next so I do briefly want to talk about presence uh so this is where about presence uh so this is where about presence uh so this is where you're getting your Clarity sliders your you're getting your Clarity sliders your you're getting your Clarity sliders your dehays vibrant saturation I feel like dehays vibrant saturation I feel like dehays vibrant saturation I feel like this is the most dangerous set of this is the most dangerous set of this is the most dangerous set of Sliders for beginning Sliders for beginning Sliders for beginning photographers um I was definitely one of photographers um I was definitely one of photographers um I was definitely one of them I loved pulling cerity up I know them I loved pulling cerity up I know them I loved pulling cerity up I know you get that HDR crunchiness you can you get that HDR crunchiness you can you get that HDR crunchiness you can feel on your feel on your feel on your skin and I uh you know it's funny is I skin and I uh you know it's funny is I skin and I uh you know it's funny is I used to crank Clarity over to the right used to crank Clarity over to the right used to crank Clarity over to the right uh now I actually love putting it down uh now I actually love putting it down uh now I actually love putting it down like I I I like making it really soft it like I I I like making it really soft it like I I I like making it really soft it has this Bloom effect uh I think we has this Bloom effect uh I think we has this Bloom effect uh I think we talked earlier about um Pro uh black Pro talked earlier about um Pro uh black Pro talked earlier about um Pro uh black Pro Mist filters and how it can create this Mist filters and how it can create this Mist filters and how it can create this Bloom and this softness so if you're not Bloom and this softness so if you're not Bloom and this softness so if you're not working with one of those sometimes if working with one of those sometimes if working with one of those sometimes if you just drop the clarity a little bit you just drop the clarity a little bit you just drop the clarity a little bit it can kind of make it feel like you it can kind of make it feel like you it can kind of make it feel like you have one um you're not going to get the have one um you're not going to get the have one um you're not going to get the halation that you sometimes get around halation that you sometimes get around halation that you sometimes get around highlights but it can make it feel you highlights but it can make it feel you highlights but it can make it feel you know softer more dreamier uh which I know softer more dreamier uh which I know softer more dreamier uh which I kind of go for um but a good good rule kind of go for um but a good good rule kind of go for um but a good good rule of thumb with the clarity slider be just of thumb with the clarity slider be just of thumb with the clarity slider be just with all of these really just be very be with all of these really just be very be with all of these really just be very be very um gentle with them you don't need very um gentle with them you don't need very um gentle with them you don't need to crank them one way or the other to crank them one way or the other to crank them one way or the other they're meant to just kind of add a they're meant to just kind of add a they're meant to just kind of add a little touch here or there in how um little touch here or there in how um little touch here or there in how um you're manipulating your photo uh so you're manipulating your photo uh so you're manipulating your photo uh so yeah I drop the clarity usually texture

yeah I drop the clarity usually texture yeah I drop the clarity usually texture I I tend to not uh touch this uh as as I I tend to not uh touch this uh as as I I tend to not uh touch this uh as as part of the overall image sometimes I'll part of the overall image sometimes I'll part of the overall image sometimes I'll go in with a brush over here and maybe go in with a brush over here and maybe go in with a brush over here and maybe I'll brush in texture and that's when I I'll brush in texture and that's when I I'll brush in texture and that's when I want to maybe like um I I don't really want to maybe like um I I don't really want to maybe like um I I don't really see it in well maybe the guitar strings see it in well maybe the guitar strings see it in well maybe the guitar strings like if I want the guitar strings to like if I want the guitar strings to like if I want the guitar strings to feel like there's a little bit more that feel like there's a little bit more that feel like there's a little bit more that you can feel there like in through the you can feel there like in through the you can feel there like in through the image and it can be conveyed like I want image and it can be conveyed like I want image and it can be conveyed like I want attention to be brought maybe to the attention to be brought maybe to the attention to be brought maybe to the guitar strings maybe I would I would guitar strings maybe I would I would guitar strings maybe I would I would create a brush and you know that's when create a brush and you know that's when create a brush and you know that's when I would add some texture and painted in I would add some texture and painted in I would add some texture and painted in and you see you can see like the details and you see you can see like the details and you see you can see like the details are kind of popping a little bit more are kind of popping a little bit more are kind of popping a little bit more you're seeing some more contrast between you're seeing some more contrast between you're seeing some more contrast between the dark and the light spaces of uh this the dark and the light spaces of uh this the dark and the light spaces of uh this area that I just painted um but I'm not area that I just painted um but I'm not area that I just painted um but I'm not going to do that with this image I just going to do that with this image I just going to do that with this image I just was demoing I don't tend I with texture was demoing I don't tend I with texture was demoing I don't tend I with texture I don't I don't really do that to the I don't I don't really do that to the I don't I don't really do that to the overall image dehes uh depending on the overall image dehes uh depending on the overall image dehes uh depending on the situation like if there's a lot of let's situation like if there's a lot of let's situation like if there's a lot of let's say uh you know the stage manager got a say uh you know the stage manager got a say uh you know the stage manager got a little crazy and a little excited with little crazy and a little excited with little crazy and a little excited with the haze machine and you need to bring the haze machine and you need to bring the haze machine and you need to bring some contrast and detailed back in I some contrast and detailed back in I some contrast and detailed back in I might bump the deave back up uh to like might bump the deave back up uh to like might bump the deave back up uh to like kind of you see it's creating a little kind of you see it's creating a little kind of you see it's creating a little bit of that contrast there like up here bit of that contrast there like up here bit of that contrast there like up here you can see it's a little hazy from my you can see it's a little hazy from my you can see it's a little hazy from my filter if I bring this up it reduces filter if I bring this up it reduces filter if I bring this up it reduces that it brings some of those details that it brings some of those details that it brings some of those details back some of that uh some of that color back some of that uh some of that color back some of that uh some of that color space back um so with this I'm actually space back um so with this I'm actually space back um so with this I'm actually I am going to I am going to put it up a I am going to I am going to put it up a I am going to I am going to put it up a little bit to reduce some of that haze little bit to reduce some of that haze little bit to reduce some of that haze there um Vibrance and saturation this is

there um Vibrance and saturation this is there um Vibrance and saturation this is again a dangerous spot uh we've all again a dangerous spot uh we've all again a dangerous spot uh we've all probably seen the probably seen the probably seen the Super C Satur saturated photos um again Super C Satur saturated photos um again Super C Satur saturated photos um again just little touches here or there I just little touches here or there I just little touches here or there I might bump it I just to like get a might bump it I just to like get a might bump it I just to like get a little bit more color back here in the little bit more color back here in the little bit more color back here in the background bring out a little bit of the background bring out a little bit of the background bring out a little bit of the color in my filter that I have up here color in my filter that I have up here color in my filter that I have up here and again this is stage like this is and again this is stage like this is and again this is stage like this is stage time there's it's meant to be stage time there's it's meant to be stage time there's it's meant to be energetic it's meant to be Lively so I energetic it's meant to be Lively so I energetic it's meant to be Lively so I feel okay like I'm just going to bump my feel okay like I'm just going to bump my feel okay like I'm just going to bump my Vibrance and my saturation up a little Vibrance and my saturation up a little Vibrance and my saturation up a little bit for bit for bit for this all right next is where you can this all right next is where you can this all right next is where you can really start dialing in um really start dialing in um really start dialing in um your style a little bit and what you're your style a little bit and what you're your style a little bit and what you're trying to go with um for the overall trying to go with um for the overall trying to go with um for the overall look and that's with the hsl or hue look and that's with the hsl or hue look and that's with the hsl or hue saturation illuminance sliders um I like saturation illuminance sliders um I like saturation illuminance sliders um I like being able to see all of mine uh being able to see all of mine uh being able to see all of mine uh displayed like this but a lot of the displayed like this but a lot of the displayed like this but a lot of the times I think it's I think it's standard times I think it's I think it's standard times I think it's I think it's standard that it just kind of you start with like that it just kind of you start with like that it just kind of you start with like Q Satur you click through the menus I Q Satur you click through the menus I Q Satur you click through the menus I don't know how it starts right out of don't know how it starts right out of don't know how it starts right out of the box but I like having it I like the box but I like having it I like the box but I like having it I like being able to see all of it um and being able to see all of it um and being able to see all of it um and there's two methodologies of being able there's two methodologies of being able there's two methodologies of being able to do this uh I to go slider by slider to do this uh I to go slider by slider to do this uh I to go slider by slider and adjust but another way it's like hey and adjust but another way it's like hey and adjust but another way it's like hey I want to change the Hue of this guitar I want to change the Hue of this guitar I want to change the Hue of this guitar this is kind of like that ey drop tool this is kind of like that ey drop tool this is kind of like that ey drop tool above earlier you click on this click on above earlier you click on this click on above earlier you click on this click on a part of your image and then you can a part of your image and then you can a part of your image and then you can drag it up or down and you see it's drag it up or down and you see it's drag it up or down and you see it's adjusting those uh Hue sliders those are adjusting those uh Hue sliders those are adjusting those uh Hue sliders those are the color space that this guitar is the color space that this guitar is the color space that this guitar is occupying and by pulling it up or down occupying and by pulling it up or down occupying and by pulling it up or down it's adjusting it um I don't know is the

it's adjusting it um I don't know is the it's adjusting it um I don't know is the right word exponentially by how much is right word exponentially by how much is right word exponentially by how much is there the percentage like you see it's there the percentage like you see it's there the percentage like you see it's both of them at once versus having to do both of them at once versus having to do both of them at once versus having to do one at a time so this is a good way of one at a time so this is a good way of one at a time so this is a good way of being able to adjust uh some of your being able to adjust uh some of your being able to adjust uh some of your tones in that way um so we're going to tones in that way um so we're going to tones in that way um so we're going to go through I'm going to start kind of go through I'm going to start kind of go through I'm going to start kind of Shifting things where I think is kind of Shifting things where I think is kind of Shifting things where I think is kind of fun for worship photos uh you might have fun for worship photos uh you might have fun for worship photos uh you might have a different style that's okay but I just a different style that's okay but I just a different style that's okay but I just suggest just having just play with it suggest just having just play with it suggest just having just play with it but try if if you have the opportunity but try if if you have the opportunity but try if if you have the opportunity to try to maintain some of the skin to try to maintain some of the skin to try to maintain some of the skin tones um that's usually pretty important tones um that's usually pretty important tones um that's usually pretty important but as we said earlier it's not always but as we said earlier it's not always but as we said earlier it's not always the case but it's good to practice the case but it's good to practice the case but it's good to practice knowing the rules and trying to do your knowing the rules and trying to do your knowing the rules and trying to do your best with that um so first off I kind of best with that um so first off I kind of best with that um so first off I kind of want to shift the tones a little bit want to shift the tones a little bit want to shift the tones a little bit more red so actually what I was doing more red so actually what I was doing more red so actually what I was doing there I kind of liked that so I kind of there I kind of liked that so I kind of there I kind of liked that so I kind of liked it kind of coming this way a liked it kind of coming this way a liked it kind of coming this way a little bit with my Hues um I sometimes little bit with my Hues um I sometimes little bit with my Hues um I sometimes shift you'll see the the the teal and shift you'll see the the the teal and shift you'll see the the the teal and orange cinematic look that was all the orange cinematic look that was all the orange cinematic look that was all the craze a few years ago I still kind of craze a few years ago I still kind of craze a few years ago I still kind of lean into it a little bit with uh My lean into it a little bit with uh My lean into it a little bit with uh My Worship photos so I'll actually push Worship photos so I'll actually push Worship photos so I'll actually push some of my sliders with the aqua and some of my sliders with the aqua and some of my sliders with the aqua and blue I'll push it like a little bit so blue I'll push it like a little bit so blue I'll push it like a little bit so that you see that background it's going that you see that background it's going that you see that background it's going a little bit of that teal uh Direction a little bit of that teal uh Direction a little bit of that teal uh Direction um to balance out kind of uh what we're um to balance out kind of uh what we're um to balance out kind of uh what we're seeing here with which is a lot of warm seeing here with which is a lot of warm seeing here with which is a lot of warm tones I kind of going a little cooler uh tones I kind of going a little cooler uh tones I kind of going a little cooler uh with the background um so we're just with the background um so we're just with the background um so we're just trying of see again a lot of it is just trying of see again a lot of it is just trying of see again a lot of it is just dialing it in what feels good for you I dialing it in what feels good for you I dialing it in what feels good for you I push and pull a lot this is why I put on

push and pull a lot this is why I put on push and pull a lot this is why I put on a TV show or listen to some music cuz a TV show or listen to some music cuz a TV show or listen to some music cuz sometimes it can it can be a bit of a sometimes it can it can be a bit of a sometimes it can it can be a bit of a process to figure out uh what direction process to figure out uh what direction process to figure out uh what direction you want to go with your colors um you want to go with your colors um you want to go with your colors um because it can change the whole feel and because it can change the whole feel and because it can change the whole feel and you can make it feel very different by you can make it feel very different by you can make it feel very different by what colors you use um saturations this what colors you use um saturations this what colors you use um saturations this is kind of where you can get into um is kind of where you can get into um is kind of where you can get into um starting to work with uh skin tones too starting to work with uh skin tones too starting to work with uh skin tones too so like if he's looking especially so like if he's looking especially so like if he's looking especially orange you can kind of drop uh skin orange you can kind of drop uh skin orange you can kind of drop uh skin tones tend to live in this orange space tones tend to live in this orange space tones tend to live in this orange space as you can see as I'm heavily going as you can see as I'm heavily going as you can see as I'm heavily going between maximums um so I usually drop my between maximums um so I usually drop my between maximums um so I usually drop my oranges a little bit I drop yellows a oranges a little bit I drop yellows a oranges a little bit I drop yellows a little bit um and we're going to just little bit um and we're going to just little bit um and we're going to just bring up red a little yeah I'm trying to bring up red a little yeah I'm trying to bring up red a little yeah I'm trying to I'm trying to narrate what I'm doing but I'm trying to narrate what I'm doing but I'm trying to narrate what I'm doing but so much is is just going back between so much is is just going back between so much is is just going back between the sliders and what I see with my eye the sliders and what I see with my eye the sliders and what I see with my eye and kind of what I like um luminance is and kind of what I like um luminance is and kind of what I like um luminance is also another great tool for skin tones also another great tool for skin tones also another great tool for skin tones especially with uh when you're working especially with uh when you're working especially with uh when you're working with a wide range of complexions um with a wide range of complexions um with a wide range of complexions um sometimes uh when you're working with sometimes uh when you're working with sometimes uh when you're working with your saturations you're working with um your saturations you're working with um your saturations you're working with um you know especially you see this with you know especially you see this with you know especially you see this with presets presets you know sometimes you presets presets you know sometimes you presets presets you know sometimes you apply it and it can make people look apply it and it can make people look apply it and it can make people look orange um and people who have richer orange um and people who have richer orange um and people who have richer darker complexions it can really like darker complexions it can really like darker complexions it can really like make them look orange so a lot of what make them look orange so a lot of what make them look orange so a lot of what I'll do for darker complexions and this I'll do for darker complexions and this I'll do for darker complexions and this is really important I think to know so is really important I think to know so is really important I think to know so that you can make sure that you're

that you can make sure that you're that you can make sure that you're honoring people well is I will drop like honoring people well is I will drop like honoring people well is I will drop like my orange saturation a little bit to get my orange saturation a little bit to get my orange saturation a little bit to get rid of that and then I will lower my rid of that and then I will lower my rid of that and then I will lower my luminance slider um uh in the orange luminance slider um uh in the orange luminance slider um uh in the orange space because it helps bring back some space because it helps bring back some space because it helps bring back some of that richness some of that fullness of that richness some of that fullness of that richness some of that fullness that are in Darker complexions um so I that are in Darker complexions um so I that are in Darker complexions um so I think it's really I would make sure think it's really I would make sure think it's really I would make sure you're able to practice editing on a you're able to practice editing on a you're able to practice editing on a wide range of skin tones um so that you wide range of skin tones um so that you wide range of skin tones um so that you can best honor people well and represent can best honor people well and represent can best honor people well and represent them well uh so this is kind of okay them well uh so this is kind of okay them well uh so this is kind of okay yeah let's let's pause here Benjamin you yeah let's let's pause here Benjamin you yeah let's let's pause here Benjamin you uh feel free to kind of make like the uh feel free to kind of make like the uh feel free to kind of make like the final tweaks and changes that you want final tweaks and changes that you want final tweaks and changes that you want there we won't make you suffer to there we won't make you suffer to there we won't make you suffer to narrate as I can't imagine if I was narrate as I can't imagine if I was narrate as I can't imagine if I was going through the hsl to narrate through going through the hsl to narrate through going through the hsl to narrate through hsl that was we had a moment like that hsl that was we had a moment like that hsl that was we had a moment like that yesterday you were trying to do yesterday you were trying to do yesterday you were trying to do something on a website while also something on a website while also something on a website while also participating in the conversation in the participating in the conversation in the participating in the conversation in the office and you had to yell at yourself office and you had to yell at yourself office and you had to yell at yourself oh yeah to stay focused on the task at oh yeah to stay focused on the task at oh yeah to stay focused on the task at hand yeah yeah well that's just because hand yeah yeah well that's just because hand yeah yeah well that's just because I just want to be involved in every I just want to be involved in every I just want to be involved in every conversation people were having a conversation people were having a conversation people were having a conversation about like oh what conversation about like oh what conversation about like oh what restaurant and I was like oh let me restaurant and I was like oh let me restaurant and I was like oh let me provide my input here no no you are in provide my input here no no you are in provide my input here no no you are in the middle of a time sensitive task you the middle of a time sensitive task you the middle of a time sensitive task you lunatic yeah I'm just so impressed by lunatic yeah I'm just so impressed by lunatic yeah I'm just so impressed by your approach to editing these photos your approach to editing these photos your approach to editing these photos not just in the way that you know how to not just in the way that you know how to not just in the way that you know how to like manipulate uh colors but in your like manipulate uh colors but in your like manipulate uh colors but in your sensitivity to the subject we talked sensitivity to the subject we talked sensitivity to the subject we talked about this two weeks ago when you were about this two weeks ago when you were about this two weeks ago when you were on the show we were talking about how on the show we were talking about how on the show we were talking about how what makes these photographs that we're

what makes these photographs that we're what makes these photographs that we're talking on this show so moving is that talking on this show so moving is that talking on this show so moving is that you're capturing um the subject is a you're capturing um the subject is a you're capturing um the subject is a person and we believe this is our person and we believe this is our person and we believe this is our confession that that the church is not a confession that that the church is not a confession that that the church is not a building it's it's a bunch of bodies building it's it's a bunch of bodies building it's it's a bunch of bodies that make up a body and so your that make up a body and so your that make up a body and so your sensitivity to your subject is so sensitivity to your subject is so sensitivity to your subject is so impressive talking about how you want to impressive talking about how you want to impressive talking about how you want to honor the people in your photos by honor the people in your photos by honor the people in your photos by treating their unique skin tones and treating their unique skin tones and treating their unique skin tones and complexions honestly and gently and complexions honestly and gently and complexions honestly and gently and truthfully that is so that's so profound truthfully that is so that's so profound truthfully that is so that's so profound that should not be um underrated or go that should not be um underrated or go that should not be um underrated or go unnoticed in this conversation unnoticed in this conversation unnoticed in this conversation because I'm sure it will come up again because I'm sure it will come up again because I'm sure it will come up again the folks in these photos are the the folks in these photos are the the folks in these photos are the subject of these photos and so even in subject of these photos and so even in subject of these photos and so even in the way that you edit the images you are the way that you edit the images you are the way that you edit the images you are honoring them in a sense or in the honoring them in a sense or in the honoring them in a sense or in the inverse you have the opportunity or or inverse you have the opportunity or or inverse you have the opportunity or or the possibility to dishonor them if you the possibility to dishonor them if you the possibility to dishonor them if you don't treat their complexions um well don't treat their complexions um well don't treat their complexions um well and so I just want to acknowledge that and so I just want to acknowledge that and so I just want to acknowledge that that's like that's really um really that's like that's really um really that's like that's really um really profound and really thoughtful of you profound and really thoughtful of you profound and really thoughtful of you well I I mean we've run into this before well I I mean we've run into this before well I I mean we've run into this before um we were working with one church and um we were working with one church and um we were working with one church and we got the photos back for them and the we got the photos back for them and the we got the photos back for them and the the pastor was like yeah could like the pastor was like yeah could like the pastor was like yeah could like could maybe we can send a different could maybe we can send a different could maybe we can send a different photographer next time because I don't photographer next time because I don't photographer next time because I don't feel like they got the skin tones right feel like they got the skin tones right feel like they got the skin tones right and I actually was surprised cuz I and I actually was surprised cuz I and I actually was surprised cuz I looked at the photos again and I was looked at the photos again and I was looked at the photos again and I was like these photos look really really like these photos look really really like these photos look really really good and I think as I evaluated more of good and I think as I evaluated more of good and I think as I evaluated more of what he was saying I'm imagining me very what he was saying I'm imagining me very what he was saying I'm imagining me very pasty white man on stage and let's say pasty white man on stage and let's say pasty white man on stage and let's say I've got a bunch of stage lights on me I

I've got a bunch of stage lights on me I I've got a bunch of stage lights on me I because I am a white man a white person because I am a white man a white person because I am a white man a white person I know what my white skin is supposed to I know what my white skin is supposed to I know what my white skin is supposed to look like and I can tell the differences look like and I can tell the differences look like and I can tell the differences between like oh I look uh like a dead between like oh I look uh like a dead between like oh I look uh like a dead piece of fish there or I look like a piece of fish there or I look like a piece of fish there or I look like a person with a nice pink glow I look like person with a nice pink glow I look like person with a nice pink glow I look like myself but the uncomfortable reality is myself but the uncomfortable reality is myself but the uncomfortable reality is that I don't have that same perspective that I don't have that same perspective that I don't have that same perspective on dark complexion skin and you know the on dark complexion skin and you know the on dark complexion skin and you know the most crass way of saying it is like oh most crass way of saying it is like oh most crass way of saying it is like oh well black skin is black skin right no well black skin is black skin right no well black skin is black skin right no that's that's not true whatsoever and that's that's not true whatsoever and that's that's not true whatsoever and those subtle differences I'm not picking those subtle differences I'm not picking those subtle differences I'm not picking up I register them because I don't have up I register them because I don't have up I register them because I don't have that color skin but that Pastor was that color skin but that Pastor was that color skin but that Pastor was saying to me yeah like no the analogy saying to me yeah like no the analogy saying to me yeah like no the analogy would be like you're making me look like would be like you're making me look like would be like you're making me look like you know like got dead fish like that you know like got dead fish like that you know like got dead fish like that that that you know I was working with that that you know I was working with that that you know I was working with fish the other day making food that's fish the other day making food that's fish the other day making food that's what I my mind like the that white what I my mind like the that white what I my mind like the that white almost blue color of skin you know like almost blue color of skin you know like almost blue color of skin you know like a cadaver coming out it's like that's a cadaver coming out it's like that's a cadaver coming out it's like that's white skin but like it's got that nasty white skin but like it's got that nasty white skin but like it's got that nasty blue tinge to it I can see that the same blue tinge to it I can see that the same blue tinge to it I can see that the same version of that with darker complexion version of that with darker complexion version of that with darker complexion skin it's not registering yeah I'm not skin it's not registering yeah I'm not skin it's not registering yeah I'm not picking it up um we spent quite a bit of picking it up um we spent quite a bit of picking it up um we spent quite a bit of time on this image which is totally good time on this image which is totally good time on this image which is totally good that's true we are definitely running that's true we are definitely running that's true we are definitely running out of time but for for folks who aren't out of time but for for folks who aren't out of time but for for folks who aren't as familiar with Lightroom or like a as familiar with Lightroom or like a as familiar with Lightroom or like a process like this the advantage is um process like this the advantage is um process like this the advantage is um shooting in church is similar to my shooting in church is similar to my shooting in church is similar to my world that I came out of which is um world that I came out of which is um world that I came out of which is um shooting weddings which is these shoots shooting weddings which is these shoots shooting weddings which is these shoots happen in sequence and so you shoot all happen in sequence and so you shoot all happen in sequence and so you shoot all of your worship images at one time your of your worship images at one time your of your worship images at one time your next pack of images is people in the the next pack of images is people in the the next pack of images is people in the the pastor preaching maybe your next pack is pastor preaching maybe your next pack is pastor preaching maybe your next pack is folks in the lobby afterwards so when folks in the lobby afterwards so when folks in the lobby afterwards so when you import your hundreds of images into

you import your hundreds of images into you import your hundreds of images into Lightroom you have almost like these Lightroom you have almost like these Lightroom you have almost like these these sets these groups of images that these sets these groups of images that these sets these groups of images that are lit similarly the subjects are are lit similarly the subjects are are lit similarly the subjects are similar and so we've done all this work similar and so we've done all this work similar and so we've done all this work on this photo it's probably almost all on this photo it's probably almost all on this photo it's probably almost all the way there the good news is you don't the way there the good news is you don't the way there the good news is you don't have to start from scratch on all of the have to start from scratch on all of the have to start from scratch on all of the photos that come next in this set of photos that come next in this set of photos that come next in this set of worship images you can once you're happy worship images you can once you're happy worship images you can once you're happy with this image you're happy with the with this image you're happy with the with this image you're happy with the colors the way you've treated them you colors the way you've treated them you colors the way you've treated them you can copy those settings paste all of can copy those settings paste all of can copy those settings paste all of those settings onto all the photos from those settings onto all the photos from those settings onto all the photos from this set and then go through each photo this set and then go through each photo this set and then go through each photo and make individual tws tweaks but you and make individual tws tweaks but you and make individual tws tweaks but you don't have to start from scratch on each don't have to start from scratch on each don't have to start from scratch on each image all right Benjamin back to you I image all right Benjamin back to you I image all right Benjamin back to you I hope we gave you enough time to finish hope we gave you enough time to finish hope we gave you enough time to finish the hsl adjustments and uh where do we the hsl adjustments and uh where do we the hsl adjustments and uh where do we go from here yes so we're we're already go from here yes so we're we're already go from here yes so we're we're already getting to a point where it's like oh getting to a point where it's like oh getting to a point where it's like oh you know what I feel like you know from you know what I feel like you know from you know what I feel like you know from where we started to where we are we're where we started to where we are we're where we started to where we are we're getting some style we're getting some getting some style we're getting some getting some style we're getting some fun in it um I think now we can see like fun in it um I think now we can see like fun in it um I think now we can see like it looks a little dark on it the the it looks a little dark on it the the it looks a little dark on it the the side of his face I might brighten it a side of his face I might brighten it a side of his face I might brighten it a little bit just a touch um but you know little bit just a touch um but you know little bit just a touch um but you know like what we've been working on this like what we've been working on this like what we've been working on this image a while so I'm going to kind of go image a while so I'm going to kind of go image a while so I'm going to kind of go through some of my my secret sauces here through some of my my secret sauces here through some of my my secret sauces here to be able to make this a little bit to be able to make this a little bit to be able to make this a little bit more um elevated and one big thing to more um elevated and one big thing to more um elevated and one big thing to learn it changed the game for me is learn it changed the game for me is learn it changed the game for me is learning how to use the tone curve um learning how to use the tone curve um learning how to use the tone curve um and when you're first getting started and when you're first getting started and when you're first getting started the easiest thing to really work with the easiest thing to really work with the easiest thing to really work with when it comes to the tone curve is put when it comes to the tone curve is put when it comes to the tone curve is put some dots uh where I am as such each of some dots uh where I am as such each of some dots uh where I am as such each of these G grid points and I usually add these G grid points and I usually add these G grid points and I usually add another one right here you'll see in a another one right here you'll see in a another one right here you'll see in a moment but I make like this just a basic

moment but I make like this just a basic moment but I make like this just a basic S curve you'll see why it's called an S S curve you'll see why it's called an S S curve you'll see why it's called an S curve it's because I'm doing I'm pulling curve it's because I'm doing I'm pulling curve it's because I'm doing I'm pulling this side down I'm pulling that up and this side down I'm pulling that up and this side down I'm pulling that up and it looks almost like if you really it looks almost like if you really it looks almost like if you really stretch it out it looks like an S um and stretch it out it looks like an S um and stretch it out it looks like an S um and I do this because as you can see if I do this because as you can see if I do this because as you can see if you're pulling down this is adjusting you're pulling down this is adjusting you're pulling down this is adjusting the dark sides of the images so the the dark sides of the images so the the dark sides of the images so the Shadows the the blacks of the image it's Shadows the the blacks of the image it's Shadows the the blacks of the image it's adjusting that a little bit and adjusting that a little bit and adjusting that a little bit and darkening it as I pull it down if I darkening it as I pull it down if I darkening it as I pull it down if I pulled it up you can see it's it's pulled it up you can see it's it's pulled it up you can see it's it's lightening it too um but I pull it down lightening it too um but I pull it down lightening it too um but I pull it down just a little bit like this and I do just a little bit like this and I do just a little bit like this and I do like raising the lower end a little bit like raising the lower end a little bit like raising the lower end a little bit what this does is it kind of uh it fades what this does is it kind of uh it fades what this does is it kind of uh it fades out the blacks a little bit um you can out the blacks a little bit um you can out the blacks a little bit um you can you've probably seen people who' like you've probably seen people who' like you've probably seen people who' like really faded their images it was really faded their images it was really faded their images it was definitely on Trend a few years ago definitely on Trend a few years ago definitely on Trend a few years ago maybe it still is uh but I do an in maybe it still is uh but I do an in maybe it still is uh but I do an in between like a little secret sauce yes between like a little secret sauce yes between like a little secret sauce yes it's a little healthy in between I feel it's a little healthy in between I feel it's a little healthy in between I feel like it adds a little bit of um it's like it adds a little bit of um it's like it adds a little bit of um it's almost as if it's adding the haze that almost as if it's adding the haze that almost as if it's adding the haze that wasn't there wasn't there wasn't there and so I tend to add a little bit to my and so I tend to add a little bit to my and so I tend to add a little bit to my especially worship photos um and especially worship photos um and especially worship photos um and sometimes depending if there's a lot of sometimes depending if there's a lot of sometimes depending if there's a lot of highlights going on I will actually pull highlights going on I will actually pull highlights going on I will actually pull down the top of the curve too um but for down the top of the curve too um but for down the top of the curve too um but for this uh I'll probably just leave it this uh I'll probably just leave it this uh I'll probably just leave it generally where it's at generally where it's at generally where it's at um this uh color grading tool this is um this uh color grading tool this is um this uh color grading tool this is really great for um being able to add really great for um being able to add really great for um being able to add color to different portions you see it color to different portions you see it color to different portions you see it has highlights midtones and shadows so has highlights midtones and shadows so has highlights midtones and shadows so this is going to add a selected color to this is going to add a selected color to this is going to add a selected color to my Shadows this will add whatever color my Shadows this will add whatever color my Shadows this will add whatever color I select to the midtones and whichever I select to the midtones and whichever I select to the midtones and whichever to the highlights so what I like doing I

to the highlights so what I like doing I to the highlights so what I like doing I usually add a little bit just a touch of usually add a little bit just a touch of usually add a little bit just a touch of warmth into my uh Shadows here just a warmth into my uh Shadows here just a warmth into my uh Shadows here just a little bit um not too much I'm seriously little bit um not too much I'm seriously little bit um not too much I'm seriously like my saturation that's what the S like my saturation that's what the S like my saturation that's what the S stands for there it's under 10 like I stands for there it's under 10 like I stands for there it's under 10 like I keep it in the single digits uh it's keep it in the single digits uh it's keep it in the single digits uh it's just a little bit of just a little bit of just a little bit of um like a little bit of a seasoning on um like a little bit of a seasoning on um like a little bit of a seasoning on top and so for highlights I usually add top and so for highlights I usually add top and so for highlights I usually add a little bit of this cool blue in and a little bit of this cool blue in and a little bit of this cool blue in and again single digit in my saturation that again single digit in my saturation that again single digit in my saturation that s right there um and you can see kind of s right there um and you can see kind of s right there um and you can see kind of it's very subtle but if off on you can it's very subtle but if off on you can it's very subtle but if off on you can see like there's it's adding some warmth see like there's it's adding some warmth see like there's it's adding some warmth back into our subject here uh and some back into our subject here uh and some back into our subject here uh and some of the highlights are getting that uh of the highlights are getting that uh of the highlights are getting that uh that little bit of blue uh that's that little bit of blue uh that's that little bit of blue uh that's matching kind of the lights that are matching kind of the lights that are matching kind of the lights that are going on I sometimes I'll match a lot of going on I sometimes I'll match a lot of going on I sometimes I'll match a lot of the highlights and midtones to the the highlights and midtones to the the highlights and midtones to the lighting situation that's going on on lighting situation that's going on on lighting situation that's going on on stage uh just to add that a little bit stage uh just to add that a little bit stage uh just to add that a little bit of effect and uh we're we'll briefly of effect and uh we're we'll briefly of effect and uh we're we'll briefly touch on I these uh calibration tools at touch on I these uh calibration tools at touch on I these uh calibration tools at the bottom I think this can be where you the bottom I think this can be where you the bottom I think this can be where you can really have fun dialing in maybe can really have fun dialing in maybe can really have fun dialing in maybe your color uh profiles and how you're your color uh profiles and how you're your color uh profiles and how you're stylizing your image um this is where stylizing your image um this is where stylizing your image um this is where you can really get that uh that teal and you can really get that uh that teal and you can really get that uh that teal and orange look is by adjusting the Hues you orange look is by adjusting the Hues you orange look is by adjusting the Hues you see it's not just like like above these see it's not just like like above these see it's not just like like above these Hue uh saturation luminance channels Hue uh saturation luminance channels Hue uh saturation luminance channels these were these were just adjusting one

these were these were just adjusting one these were these were just adjusting one channel these at the bottom are channel these at the bottom are channel these at the bottom are adjusting multiple channels like you see adjusting multiple channels like you see adjusting multiple channels like you see it's adjusting blue it's adjusting the it's adjusting blue it's adjusting the it's adjusting blue it's adjusting the oranges it's the overall look of the oranges it's the overall look of the oranges it's the overall look of the image that it's changing uh so I usually image that it's changing uh so I usually image that it's changing uh so I usually again less is more with these so I'll again less is more with these so I'll again less is more with these so I'll just do a few maybe stay even in the just do a few maybe stay even in the just do a few maybe stay even in the single digits with the Hue with the with single digits with the Hue with the with single digits with the Hue with the with the saturation and I just play around the saturation and I just play around the saturation and I just play around with it until I find maybe maybe a look with it until I find maybe maybe a look with it until I find maybe maybe a look I like with it I like with it I like with it um and I I usually will just leave it um and I I usually will just leave it um and I I usually will just leave it there um so you can already see like there um so you can already see like there um so you can already see like we're kind of it looks pretty different we're kind of it looks pretty different we're kind of it looks pretty different with uh where we started but I really with uh where we started but I really with uh where we started but I really want to give you the the biggest part of want to give you the the biggest part of want to give you the the biggest part of my secret which if you look at this my secret which if you look at this my secret which if you look at this image here well it's looking very image here well it's looking very image here well it's looking very different in fact I'm actually starting different in fact I'm actually starting different in fact I'm actually starting to like my my new edit a little bit more to like my my new edit a little bit more to like my my new edit a little bit more um but this where did this what happens I actually I want to go back and happens I actually I want to go back and change everything um but where did this change everything um but where did this change everything um but where did this light bar come in where did all this light bar come in where did all this light bar come in where did all this color come from and what I like doing is color come from and what I like doing is color come from and what I like doing is so going to our masking tools going to so going to our masking tools going to so going to our masking tools going to the linear gradient you can also do with the linear gradient you can also do with the linear gradient you can also do with this radial gradient either or but I'll this radial gradient either or but I'll this radial gradient either or but I'll take the linear gradient and I'll pull take the linear gradient and I'll pull take the linear gradient and I'll pull it in from one of the sides I usually it in from one of the sides I usually it in from one of the sides I usually try to match what the lighting situation try to match what the lighting situation try to match what the lighting situation looked like in the room so you can see looked like in the room so you can see looked like in the room so you can see we have this light coming on from back we have this light coming on from back we have this light coming on from back behind him uh just a little bit it's behind him uh just a little bit it's behind him uh just a little bit it's this blue and the secret here is this this blue and the secret here is this this blue and the secret here is this little guy here that a lot of people little guy here that a lot of people little guy here that a lot of people don't notice but this little color uh don't notice but this little color uh don't notice but this little color uh selector I can add in whatever color I

selector I can add in whatever color I selector I can add in whatever color I want and so this is how I can kind of want and so this is how I can kind of want and so this is how I can kind of fake stage lighting and add in some fake stage lighting and add in some fake stage lighting and add in some Intrigue and interest so like I in that Intrigue and interest so like I in that Intrigue and interest so like I in that one you saw I added some orange uh into one you saw I added some orange uh into one you saw I added some orange uh into the background um let me pull it in so the background um let me pull it in so the background um let me pull it in so it's a little more obvious there uh and it's a little more obvious there uh and it's a little more obvious there uh and you know I might have brighten that up I you know I might have brighten that up I you know I might have brighten that up I usually I'll boost the whites a little usually I'll boost the whites a little usually I'll boost the whites a little bit so it looks like it's lights I'll bit so it looks like it's lights I'll bit so it looks like it's lights I'll boost a little bit the exposure uh and boost a little bit the exposure uh and boost a little bit the exposure uh and this is again just playing around with this is again just playing around with this is again just playing around with it seeing what you like uh I'll also it seeing what you like uh I'll also it seeing what you like uh I'll also another thing I lower the clarity so it another thing I lower the clarity so it another thing I lower the clarity so it feels like oh it's interacting with the feels like oh it's interacting with the feels like oh it's interacting with the haze a little bit add a little dehaze haze a little bit add a little dehaze haze a little bit add a little dehaze again to like kind of make it feel like again to like kind of make it feel like again to like kind of make it feel like there's some Haze like it looks a little there's some Haze like it looks a little there's some Haze like it looks a little bit like it's hitting the lens just bit like it's hitting the lens just bit like it's hitting the lens just right it's causing a little bit of a right it's causing a little bit of a right it's causing a little bit of a flare maybe so by by this little bit it flare maybe so by by this little bit it flare maybe so by by this little bit it can add some Intrigue but the the other can add some Intrigue but the the other can add some Intrigue but the the other important part of this especially when I important part of this especially when I important part of this especially when I I want to preserve those skin tones I want to preserve those skin tones I want to preserve those skin tones Lightroom added this a little while ago Lightroom added this a little while ago Lightroom added this a little while ago and it's wonderful uh you can select and it's wonderful uh you can select and it's wonderful uh you can select your uh you can select your mask here I your uh you can select your mask here I your uh you can select your mask here I you see these plus and minus this is to you see these plus and minus this is to you see these plus and minus this is to add another layer mask to like add add another layer mask to like add add another layer mask to like add another layer to this mask or I could another layer to this mask or I could another layer to this mask or I could subtract from The Mask I created so hit subtract from The Mask I created so hit subtract from The Mask I created so hit the subtract and you know I know AI is a the subtract and you know I know AI is a the subtract and you know I know AI is a little bit of a buzzword but Adobe you little bit of a buzzword but Adobe you little bit of a buzzword but Adobe you know they added AI uh masking with uh know they added AI uh masking with uh know they added AI uh masking with uh their Lightroom now and so I do select their Lightroom now and so I do select their Lightroom now and so I do select subject subject subject and it's it's removing the color from and it's it's removing the color from and it's it's removing the color from him so now it truly looks like it's him so now it truly looks like it's him so now it truly looks like it's coming from behind him I can adjust this coming from behind him I can adjust this coming from behind him I can adjust this wherever you so let's make it really wherever you so let's make it really wherever you so let's make it really extreme and it cuts them out it's it

extreme and it cuts them out it's it extreme and it cuts them out it's it masked them out and so this is a way I masked them out and so this is a way I masked them out and so this is a way I can just add a little bit of intrigue to can just add a little bit of intrigue to can just add a little bit of intrigue to what's going on lighting wise um and what's going on lighting wise um and what's going on lighting wise um and then I I'll usually add another like uh then I I'll usually add another like uh then I I'll usually add another like uh linear mask and try to darken parts of linear mask and try to darken parts of linear mask and try to darken parts of the images that I feel like aren't going the images that I feel like aren't going the images that I feel like aren't going like it's just distracting like there's like it's just distracting like there's like it's just distracting like there's a lot of wires there's a lot of stuff a lot of wires there's a lot of stuff a lot of wires there's a lot of stuff going down there's stuff here you can going down there's stuff here you can going down there's stuff here you can crop it in and then you can also just crop it in and then you can also just crop it in and then you can also just kind of this is called dodging and kind of this is called dodging and kind of this is called dodging and burning you're burning you're making burning you're burning you're making burning you're burning you're making parts of the image darker where you parts of the image darker where you parts of the image darker where you don't want people to really see and don't want people to really see and don't want people to really see and burning is making the image lighter so burning is making the image lighter so burning is making the image lighter so I'm taking a brush tool adding a little I'm taking a brush tool adding a little I'm taking a brush tool adding a little of exposure and I like his face is of exposure and I like his face is of exposure and I like his face is looking a little dark I want to add a looking a little dark I want to add a looking a little dark I want to add a little more detail in there and I'm just little more detail in there and I'm just little more detail in there and I'm just kind of brushing in where I want people kind of brushing in where I want people kind of brushing in where I want people to be paying a little bit more attention to be paying a little bit more attention to be paying a little bit more attention to and you know we're trying to go quick to and you know we're trying to go quick to and you know we're trying to go quick we're trying to get through these but we're trying to get through these but we're trying to get through these but yeah like this is kind of yeah like this is kind of yeah like this is kind of a really rudimentary level of how I try a really rudimentary level of how I try a really rudimentary level of how I try to elevate where we were to where we are to elevate where we were to where we are to elevate where we were to where we are getting a little bit I proba I I getting a little bit I proba I I getting a little bit I proba I I probably would crop it in a little more probably would crop it in a little more probably would crop it in a little more too just uh yeah I want to cut out the too just uh yeah I want to cut out the too just uh yeah I want to cut out the bottom there there's a lot going on bottom there there's a lot going on bottom there there's a lot going on there that I just don't want to see but there that I just don't want to see but there that I just don't want to see but yeah like this is this feels so much yeah like this is this feels so much yeah like this is this feels so much further along and adds a little more further along and adds a little more further along and adds a little more Intrigue a little more emotion to the Intrigue a little more emotion to the Intrigue a little more emotion to the moment uh and I definitely like my new moment uh and I definitely like my new moment uh and I definitely like my new edit more than my edit more than my edit more than my old so there you have this first old so there you have this first old so there you have this first image well and I like the old edit image well and I like the old edit image well and I like the old edit better than the new one still so and better than the new one still so and better than the new one still so and this is that's what that's why you can this is that's what that's why you can this is that's what that's why you can end up doing these things forever you end up doing these things forever you end up doing these things forever you can just be in Lightroom and it's so fun

can just be in Lightroom and it's so fun can just be in Lightroom and it's so fun seeing you use the linear filters the seeing you use the linear filters the seeing you use the linear filters the radio filters to shape light Benjamin radio filters to shape light Benjamin radio filters to shape light Benjamin because I have so much experience with because I have so much experience with because I have so much experience with that with Landscapes but I don't have as that with Landscapes but I don't have as that with Landscapes but I don't have as much experience with it in church much experience with it in church much experience with it in church photography and so seeing you take those photography and so seeing you take those photography and so seeing you take those identical tools that if you're watching identical tools that if you're watching identical tools that if you're watching this you can see how dramatically this you can see how dramatically this you can see how dramatically different that image went in that final different that image went in that final different that image went in that final step once we got to the brushes once we step once we got to the brushes once we step once we got to the brushes once we got into the shaping of light using got into the shaping of light using got into the shaping of light using those uh the linear filter um and you those uh the linear filter um and you those uh the linear filter um and you can save those filters as presets like I can save those filters as presets like I can save those filters as presets like I have I have some sunshine ones like that have I have some sunshine ones like that have I have some sunshine ones like that I use for outdoor family photography if I use for outdoor family photography if I use for outdoor family photography if the Sun is just like not if it's if it's the Sun is just like not if it's if it's the Sun is just like not if it's if it's a golden hour shoot and the golden hour a golden hour shoot and the golden hour a golden hour shoot and the golden hour wasn't just golden enough I've got some wasn't just golden enough I've got some wasn't just golden enough I've got some sunshine ones right and left that I save sunshine ones right and left that I save sunshine ones right and left that I save as preset set so I don't have to go and as preset set so I don't have to go and as preset set so I don't have to go and rebuild it every time if I find rebuild it every time if I find rebuild it every time if I find something that I really like yeah 100% something that I really like yeah 100% something that I really like yeah 100% okay um quickly Benjamin let's go to okay um quickly Benjamin let's go to okay um quickly Benjamin let's go to maybe that Lobby photo if it makes sense maybe that Lobby photo if it makes sense maybe that Lobby photo if it makes sense and do you want to walk us through and do you want to walk us through and do you want to walk us through applying the preset and then once the applying the preset and then once the applying the preset and then once the preset has been applied making the preset has been applied making the preset has been applied making the necessary changes or preparing the photo necessary changes or preparing the photo necessary changes or preparing the photo for the preset then applying the preset for the preset then applying the preset for the preset then applying the preset whatever workflow order of operations whatever workflow order of operations whatever workflow order of operations makes sense so we can show how these makes sense so we can show how these makes sense so we can show how these presets get used and then we can share presets get used and then we can share presets get used and then we can share them with everyone yeah so yes uh uh for them with everyone yeah so yes uh uh for them with everyone yeah so yes uh uh for all these images that I added for this all these images that I added for this all these images that I added for this church I actually use this Pro Church church I actually use this Pro Church church I actually use this Pro Church tools preset um there's a few of them tools preset um there's a few of them tools preset um there's a few of them here the one I used for this image was here the one I used for this image was here the one I used for this image was likely I believe portraits 2 here um so likely I believe portraits 2 here um so likely I believe portraits 2 here um so I just go ahead and apply it and uh

I just go ahead and apply it and uh I just go ahead and apply it and uh right out of the box you're you're right out of the box you're you're right out of the box you're you're usually going to have to make a few usually going to have to make a few usually going to have to make a few adjustments and that comes along the adjustments and that comes along the adjustments and that comes along the lines of your white balance you know the lines of your white balance you know the lines of your white balance you know the things we went at went over at the very things we went at went over at the very things we went at went over at the very beginning um so this one I'm going to beginning um so this one I'm going to beginning um so this one I'm going to want to boost the exposure up a little want to boost the exposure up a little want to boost the exposure up a little bit I'm going to take that eyedropper bit I'm going to take that eyedropper bit I'm going to take that eyedropper tool I'm going to find something that's tool I'm going to find something that's tool I'm going to find something that's close to White and look how much close to White and look how much close to White and look how much immediately like it this feels like a immediately like it this feels like a immediately like it this feels like a usable image I'm going to go personally usable image I'm going to go personally usable image I'm going to go personally deeper like this feels like yeah like I deeper like this feels like yeah like I deeper like this feels like yeah like I could use this and it looks great um and could use this and it looks great um and could use this and it looks great um and that's the goal of some of these pres that's the goal of some of these pres that's the goal of some of these pres before for a sec here's the before before for a sec here's the before before for a sec here's the before here's the after and there is such a here's the after and there is such a here's the after and there is such a time and place for using presets quick time and place for using presets quick time and place for using presets quick and dirty you can even do it on your and dirty you can even do it on your and dirty you can even do it on your phone now right if you're running phone now right if you're running phone now right if you're running Lightroom on your phone if you are doing Lightroom on your phone if you are doing Lightroom on your phone if you are doing social for your church and you just need social for your church and you just need social for your church and you just need to like you took a photo and you need to to like you took a photo and you need to to like you took a photo and you need to get it up for a social post it's not a get it up for a social post it's not a get it up for a social post it's not a photo you're using for your Church photo you're using for your Church photo you're using for your Church website or something uh you just need to website or something uh you just need to website or something uh you just need to get it up for a social post using a get it up for a social post using a get it up for a social post using a preset is going to get you 80% of the preset is going to get you 80% of the preset is going to get you 80% of the way there likely right from the way there likely right from the way there likely right from the beginning it's quick it's easy there's beginning it's quick it's easy there's beginning it's quick it's easy there's nothing wrong with it it's not a nothing wrong with it it's not a nothing wrong with it it's not a betrayal of photo editing but then there betrayal of photo editing but then there betrayal of photo editing but then there also is a time and place especially if also is a time and place especially if also is a time and place especially if you're going to have a big hero image on you're going to have a big hero image on you're going to have a big hero image on your website to spend 20 30 minutes your website to spend 20 30 minutes your website to spend 20 30 minutes maybe on that one image but for for maybe on that one image but for for maybe on that one image but for for quick stuff for social like using these quick stuff for social like using these quick stuff for social like using these presets is going to get you most of the presets is going to get you most of the presets is going to get you most of the way there for sure and we just saw the way there for sure and we just saw the way there for sure and we just saw the spectrum of both of that we spend 45 spectrum of both of that we spend 45 spectrum of both of that we spend 45 minutes editing one image and then we minutes editing one image and then we minutes editing one image and then we did the second one in two steps MH did the second one in two steps MH did the second one in two steps MH preset applied white balance fixed ready preset applied white balance fixed ready preset applied white balance fixed ready to go and I remember when I first to go and I remember when I first to go and I remember when I first started editing photos I treated every started editing photos I treated every started editing photos I treated every single one like the beautiful darling single one like the beautiful darling single one like the beautiful darling that it was and I spent three hours on that it was and I spent three hours on that it was and I spent three hours on each your magnum opus photo I printed

each your magnum opus photo I printed each your magnum opus photo I printed them in books and I was like and then I them in books and I was like and then I them in books and I was like and then I went on my third or fourth like went on my third or fourth like went on my third or fourth like international trip and then I was like international trip and then I was like international trip and then I was like okay but I now I know kind of what I okay but I now I know kind of what I okay but I now I know kind of what I like and I was like preset and then D TW like and I was like preset and then D TW like and I was like preset and then D TW you always end up shaping light because you always end up shaping light because you always end up shaping light because the shaping light can create the preset the shaping light can create the preset the shaping light can create the preset of like this level of clarity this level of like this level of clarity this level of like this level of clarity this level of Dimension but where it's coming from of Dimension but where it's coming from of Dimension but where it's coming from the color and the intensity is always the color and the intensity is always the color and the intensity is always being dialed in individually but you can being dialed in individually but you can being dialed in individually but you can create great images really quickly or uh create great images really quickly or uh create great images really quickly or uh take as long as you want like Benjamin take as long as you want like Benjamin take as long as you want like Benjamin went through 45 minutes of editing cuz went through 45 minutes of editing cuz went through 45 minutes of editing cuz he had to talk to us through it then he had to talk to us through it then he had to talk to us through it then looked at the one that he did days ago looked at the one that he did days ago looked at the one that he did days ago on the identical photo and there were on the identical photo and there were on the identical photo and there were two different outcomes and he was like two different outcomes and he was like two different outcomes and he was like well now I got to reconcile which one I well now I got to reconcile which one I well now I got to reconcile which one I like even more you can go you can add it like even more you can go you can add it like even more you can go you can add it forever I would spend days on these I forever I would spend days on these I forever I would spend days on these I got no work done thankfully it was the got no work done thankfully it was the got no work done thankfully it was the pandemic there wasn't as much work to do pandemic there wasn't as much work to do pandemic there wasn't as much work to do um but point being this preset can show um but point being this preset can show um but point being this preset can show you just how quickly but don't just you just how quickly but don't just you just how quickly but don't just apply it don't just apply the preset if apply it don't just apply the preset if apply it don't just apply the preset if nothing else apply it and then make sure nothing else apply it and then make sure nothing else apply it and then make sure the white balance is set make sure the the white balance is set make sure the the white balance is set make sure the exposure is set and then bonus tip exposure is set and then bonus tip exposure is set and then bonus tip because you saw how much of a difference because you saw how much of a difference because you saw how much of a difference it made you can start working with it made you can start working with it made you can start working with Dynamic Dynamic Dynamic light yes and I want to bring up a point light yes and I want to bring up a point light yes and I want to bring up a point earlier you saw me go through so much earlier you saw me go through so much earlier you saw me go through so much detail with our beginning image here detail with our beginning image here detail with our beginning image here with uh and we have a few here that with uh and we have a few here that with uh and we have a few here that we've selected that you know I went we've selected that you know I went we've selected that you know I went through and the point that was made through and the point that was made through and the point that was made earlier you can just copy so much and earlier you can just copy so much and earlier you can just copy so much and you can copy those masks too so you can you can copy those masks too so you can you can copy those masks too so you can copy this all over I have all these copy this all over I have all these copy this all over I have all these settings that I've adjusted selected and settings that I've adjusted selected and settings that I've adjusted selected and then command V paste it over it's not then command V paste it over it's not then command V paste it over it's not going to be 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going to be exactly right but again you going to be exactly right but again you just go in you make your adjustments so just go in you make your adjustments so just go in you make your adjustments so then it feels a little bit closer like then it feels a little bit closer like then it feels a little bit closer like it's a little bit fun with what you're it's a little bit fun with what you're it's a little bit fun with what you're the look you're going for but it saves the look you're going for but it saves the look you're going for but it saves you so much time if you just yeah dial you so much time if you just yeah dial you so much time if you just yeah dial in with a few photos what you really in with a few photos what you really in with a few photos what you really like and then go in and make the like and then go in and make the like and then go in and make the adjustments after I mean I the whole adjustments after I mean I the whole adjustments after I mean I the whole Gallery I delivered was like 250 photos Gallery I delivered was like 250 photos Gallery I delivered was like 250 photos and the first few photos I probably and the first few photos I probably and the first few photos I probably spent I don't know 10 minutes on 15 spent I don't know 10 minutes on 15 spent I don't know 10 minutes on 15 minutes on and then the rest because I minutes on and then the rest because I minutes on and then the rest because I dialed it in I was able to get the whole dialed it in I was able to get the whole dialed it in I was able to get the whole thing done 250 photos in like 40 minutes thing done 250 photos in like 40 minutes thing done 250 photos in like 40 minutes it's like you can really once you got it's like you can really once you got it's like you can really once you got the pattern put on a good show put on the pattern put on a good show put on the pattern put on a good show put on some good music an audio book uh this some good music an audio book uh this some good music an audio book uh this podcast podcast podcast a little plug there for you and you can a little plug there for you and you can a little plug there for you and you can just uh edit through and it shouldn't just uh edit through and it shouldn't just uh edit through and it shouldn't take too long as you get the Reps in you take too long as you get the Reps in you take too long as you get the Reps in you get the like you understand how things get the like you understand how things get the like you understand how things work and how it kind of comes together work and how it kind of comes together work and how it kind of comes together um so yeah again I applied the preset um so yeah again I applied the preset um so yeah again I applied the preset just as changed a few things um boosted just as changed a few things um boosted just as changed a few things um boosted the exposure adjusting my tone a little the exposure adjusting my tone a little the exposure adjusting my tone a little bit and then the thing I would probably bit and then the thing I would probably bit and then the thing I would probably do with this one again like she's do with this one again like she's do with this one again like she's looking a little redish a little orange looking a little redish a little orange looking a little redish a little orange so I probably um would adjust that a so I probably um would adjust that a so I probably um would adjust that a little bit here in the Hues bring back a little bit here in the Hues bring back a little bit here in the Hues bring back a little bit of that orangish a little little bit of that orangish a little little bit of that orangish a little that red kind of flatten that a little that red kind of flatten that a little that red kind of flatten that a little bit so it looks natural and then lower bit so it looks natural and then lower bit so it looks natural and then lower that saturation a little bit there so that saturation a little bit there so that saturation a little bit there so you see I'm I'm just lowering that you see I'm I'm just lowering that you see I'm I'm just lowering that saturation and bringing it so it looks a saturation and bringing it so it looks a saturation and bringing it so it looks a little bit more like a natural skin tone little bit more like a natural skin tone little bit more like a natural skin tone um and again I think I said mentioned at um and again I think I said mentioned at um and again I think I said mentioned at the very beginning the walls are very the very beginning the walls are very the very beginning the walls are very yellow you can kind of see it here I I

yellow you can kind of see it here I I yellow you can kind of see it here I I kind of bring that down a little um kind of bring that down a little um kind of bring that down a little um something to uh be very aware of and something to uh be very aware of and something to uh be very aware of and maybe your church cares about this maybe maybe your church cares about this maybe maybe your church cares about this maybe it doesn't while I was at Life Church um it doesn't while I was at Life Church um it doesn't while I was at Life Church um sections of the church especially when sections of the church especially when sections of the church especially when it came to kids ministry when it came to it came to kids ministry when it came to it came to kids ministry when it came to switch which was the students Ministry switch which was the students Ministry switch which was the students Ministry um they wanted to preserve the colors of um they wanted to preserve the colors of um they wanted to preserve the colors of the branding for each of those the branding for each of those the branding for each of those Ministries and so that people would Ministries and so that people would Ministries and so that people would recognize it when they walking through recognize it when they walking through recognize it when they walking through the lobby they know like oh yeah that's the lobby they know like oh yeah that's the lobby they know like oh yeah that's right I it's not shifted all the way the right I it's not shifted all the way the right I it's not shifted all the way the blue isn't teal or purple they want to blue isn't teal or purple they want to blue isn't teal or purple they want to be able to recognize so there is a bit be able to recognize so there is a bit be able to recognize so there is a bit of preservation you want to do colors if of preservation you want to do colors if of preservation you want to do colors if your church cares about like making sure your church cares about like making sure your church cares about like making sure that that's still accurate recognizable that that's still accurate recognizable that that's still accurate recognizable and that's what some of these presets do and that's what some of these presets do and that's what some of these presets do especially this first one this first one especially this first one this first one especially this first one this first one is meant to be pretty flat and not is meant to be pretty flat and not is meant to be pretty flat and not adjust colors too much so that you can adjust colors too much so that you can adjust colors too much so that you can apply it and you can make some of your apply it and you can make some of your apply it and you can make some of your adjustments and you can maintain brand adjustments and you can maintain brand adjustments and you can maintain brand Integrity of colors or whatever is going Integrity of colors or whatever is going Integrity of colors or whatever is going on in the on in the on in the lobby I love the greens and Browns in lobby I love the greens and Browns in lobby I love the greens and Browns in that image it's like it's just a really that image it's like it's just a really that image it's like it's just a really homey feeling image um can we do uh an homey feeling image um can we do uh an homey feeling image um can we do uh an image with another preset that is just image with another preset that is just image with another preset that is just blacks and just whites we'll close out blacks and just whites we'll close out blacks and just whites we'll close out on that one black and white black and on that one black and white black and on that one black and white black and white uh all right we're going to go you white uh all right we're going to go you white uh all right we're going to go you saw this one a little bit earlier I saw this one a little bit earlier I saw this one a little bit earlier I applied it um there's a lot going on applied it um there's a lot going on applied it um there's a lot going on this is shutter drag I set my camera to this is shutter drag I set my camera to this is shutter drag I set my camera to um I think this was oh you can see it up um I think this was oh you can see it up um I think this was oh you can see it up at the top one over six so one sixth of at the top one over six so one sixth of at the top one over six so one sixth of a second it's kind of a second it's kind of a second it's kind of open so I I hold it there for a little

open so I I hold it there for a little open so I I hold it there for a little bit and I swing my camera and that's how bit and I swing my camera and that's how bit and I swing my camera and that's how you can kind of get this shutter drag you can kind of get this shutter drag you can kind of get this shutter drag it's a little bit of motion it's what it's a little bit of motion it's what it's a little bit of motion it's what the cool kids are doing these days um the cool kids are doing these days um the cool kids are doing these days um and I I like doing this if there's not a and I I like doing this if there's not a and I I like doing this if there's not a lot going on it can just add some lot going on it can just add some lot going on it can just add some Intrigue adds adds a little bit this Intrigue adds adds a little bit this Intrigue adds adds a little bit this right here I got to tell you this this right here I got to tell you this this right here I got to tell you this this is another secret I did this in camera is another secret I did this in camera is another secret I did this in camera uh you can see here I held my phone up uh you can see here I held my phone up uh you can see here I held my phone up to my lens and I put on a bright color to my lens and I put on a bright color to my lens and I put on a bright color on my phone so you don't need like a ton on my phone so you don't need like a ton on my phone so you don't need like a ton of gadgets or gears to add interest this of gadgets or gears to add interest this of gadgets or gears to add interest this yellow bar is my phone and I just it's a magician I don't phone and I just it's a magician I don't want to know the secrets it's just want to know the secrets it's just want to know the secrets it's just so I would just I put on a I have some so I would just I put on a I have some so I would just I put on a I have some that are blue like I put on a bright that are blue like I put on a bright that are blue like I put on a bright blue screen a bright yellow screen and I blue screen a bright yellow screen and I blue screen a bright yellow screen and I hold it up and I'm able to like add some hold it up and I'm able to like add some hold it up and I'm able to like add some detail block out some like that's where detail block out some like that's where detail block out some like that's where all those wires were I didn't want all those wires were I didn't want all those wires were I didn't want anyone to see it so I just blocked it anyone to see it so I just blocked it anyone to see it so I just blocked it out with like some really cool trick and out with like some really cool trick and out with like some really cool trick and if you have your SK your your screen if you have your SK your your screen if you have your SK your your screen completely off it's just it's completely off it's just it's completely off it's just it's practically a a mirror you can just like practically a a mirror you can just like practically a a mirror you can just like reflect things off of it too if you hold reflect things off of it too if you hold reflect things off of it too if you hold it right up to your lens um so that's it right up to your lens um so that's it right up to your lens um so that's another trick for you um so we're going another trick for you um so we're going another trick for you um so we're going to do some black and white um you can to do some black and white um you can to do some black and white um you can switch your profile up here at top it's switch your profile up here at top it's switch your profile up here at top it's now black and white uh a lot of this now black and white uh a lot of this now black and white uh a lot of this it's kind of simpler to work with here it's kind of simpler to work with here it's kind of simpler to work with here uh I mean do you want me to go through uh I mean do you want me to go through uh I mean do you want me to go through the whole process here uh or you want me the whole process here uh or you want me the whole process here uh or you want me to show off the preset throw the preset to show off the preset throw the preset to show off the preset throw the preset on all right we're GNA we're gonna I on all right we're GNA we're gonna I on all right we're GNA we're gonna I maybe that's another episode someday but maybe that's another episode someday but maybe that's another episode someday but uh so the preset I have here I have it uh so the preset I have here I have it uh so the preset I have here I have it the same it's the same look one with the same it's the same look one with the same it's the same look one with grain one without grain uh depending on

grain one without grain uh depending on grain one without grain uh depending on your style guide and your choices that your style guide and your choices that your style guide and your choices that you want to make within your church so you want to make within your church so you want to make within your church so we're going to do with grain I like I we're going to do with grain I like I we're going to do with grain I like I wanted to ask you about was wanted to ask you about was wanted to ask you about was yeah that's what I was going to ask you yeah that's what I was going to ask you yeah that's what I was going to ask you about was how do you feel about about was how do you feel about about was how do you feel about introducing noise and post specifically introducing noise and post specifically introducing noise and post specifically in black and white photos CU I'm a in black and white photos CU I'm a in black and white photos CU I'm a sucker for that whenever I'm doing black sucker for that whenever I'm doing black sucker for that whenever I'm doing black white same thing I have two presets I white same thing I have two presets I white same thing I have two presets I have one with grain I have one without have one with grain I have one without have one with grain I have one without grain I don't know if I ever choose the grain I don't know if I ever choose the grain I don't know if I ever choose the one without grain it's just one without grain it's just one without grain it's just stylistically it has that film look I stylistically it has that film look I stylistically it has that film look I mean stylistically with with this actual mean stylistically with with this actual mean stylistically with with this actual image the way it came out of camera with image the way it came out of camera with image the way it came out of camera with the the motion the shutter drag it just the the motion the shutter drag it just the the motion the shutter drag it just feels right so are you adding are you feels right so are you adding are you feels right so are you adding are you introducing noise and post um usually introducing noise and post um usually introducing noise and post um usually when you're doing a black and white edit when you're doing a black and white edit when you're doing a black and white edit I do add a lot of noise and post with I do add a lot of noise and post with I do add a lot of noise and post with black and white some of the more black and white some of the more black and white some of the more stylistic ones uh especially you know we stylistic ones uh especially you know we stylistic ones uh especially you know we talked earlier about when lighting is so talked earlier about when lighting is so talked earlier about when lighting is so dramatic that it can be hard to work dramatic that it can be hard to work dramatic that it can be hard to work with um sometimes yeah I just lean into with um sometimes yeah I just lean into with um sometimes yeah I just lean into it I'm I purposefully make the colors it I'm I purposefully make the colors it I'm I purposefully make the colors wild and I add Grain on top and it feels wild and I add Grain on top and it feels wild and I add Grain on top and it feels like oh that's this that's the cherry on like oh that's this that's the cherry on like oh that's this that's the cherry on top that makes it really cool and so top that makes it really cool and so top that makes it really cool and so that's what I'll do like I think the that's what I'll do like I think the that's what I'll do like I think the grain can add some of that Intrigue add grain can add some of that Intrigue add grain can add some of that Intrigue add some texture sensors cameras these days some texture sensors cameras these days some texture sensors cameras these days they're so sharp that sometimes just they're so sharp that sometimes just they're so sharp that sometimes just adding a a little bit of grain makes it adding a a little bit of grain makes it adding a a little bit of grain makes it feel a little more homey and it makes it feel a little more homey and it makes it feel a little more homey and it makes it feel a little more um I'm going to use feel a little more um I'm going to use feel a little more um I'm going to use the word approachable I know it's kind the word approachable I know it's kind the word approachable I know it's kind of weird to apply that to photography of weird to apply that to photography of weird to apply that to photography but that's what I really love about but that's what I really love about but that's what I really love about grain is it's yeah it takes the edge off grain is it's yeah it takes the edge off grain is it's yeah it takes the edge off of the sharpness that cameras possess of the sharpness that cameras possess of the sharpness that cameras possess now and some people don't want to see now and some people don't want to see now and some people don't want to see that much detail of their face so adding that much detail of their face so adding that much detail of their face so adding a little bit of grain kind of takes the a little bit of grain kind of takes the a little bit of grain kind of takes the edge off a little bit it makes it feel a

edge off a little bit it makes it feel a edge off a little bit it makes it feel a little more uh you know what people are little more uh you know what people are little more uh you know what people are familiar with like we've had film for so familiar with like we've had film for so familiar with like we've had film for so long now I don't know 160 years I don't long now I don't know 160 years I don't long now I don't know 160 years I don't not a photography not a photography not a photography historian brain brain can cover a historian brain brain can cover a historian brain brain can cover a multitude of sins if you miss Focus just multitude of sins if you miss Focus just multitude of sins if you miss Focus just by a little bit if the if the image is a by a little bit if the if the image is a by a little bit if the if the image is a little sharp but you've captured a great little sharp but you've captured a great little sharp but you've captured a great moment a little bit of grain can go a moment a little bit of grain can go a moment a little bit of grain can go a long way in covering a multitude of sins long way in covering a multitude of sins long way in covering a multitude of sins in that image absolutely people are like in that image absolutely people are like in that image absolutely people are like oh it was an artistic Choice that's what I say that's all the Choice that's what I say that's all the time like I misfocus maybe it's a little time like I misfocus maybe it's a little time like I misfocus maybe it's a little blurry and I'll just slap some grain blurry and I'll just slap some grain blurry and I'll just slap some grain make it black and white it was an make it black and white it was an make it black and white it was an artistic artistic artistic Choice all the secrets are being told Choice all the secrets are being told Choice all the secrets are being told now oh I know uh people are going to be now oh I know uh people are going to be now oh I know uh people are going to be banging down my door of like it wasn't banging down my door of like it wasn't banging down my door of like it wasn't art all along you messed up but that's how jazz is made um so up but that's how jazz is made um so yeah we yeah we yeah we just I applied the with grain preset and just I applied the with grain preset and just I applied the with grain preset and I just this I want to bring back some of I just this I want to bring back some of I just this I want to bring back some of the detail here so honestly with this the detail here so honestly with this the detail here so honestly with this all I have to do is like kind of like all I have to do is like kind of like all I have to do is like kind of like bring down the exposure a little bit and bring down the exposure a little bit and bring down the exposure a little bit and maybe a little bit higher there and I maybe a little bit higher there and I maybe a little bit higher there and I already like it's kind of a oneclick already like it's kind of a oneclick already like it's kind of a oneclick preset for me um I use black and white a preset for me um I use black and white a preset for me um I use black and white a lot when I'm like oh the lighting is so lot when I'm like oh the lighting is so lot when I'm like oh the lighting is so difficult to work with I'm going to make difficult to work with I'm going to make difficult to work with I'm going to make it black and white um you know all it black and white um you know all it black and white um you know all secrets revealed uh It's just sometimes secrets revealed uh It's just sometimes secrets revealed uh It's just sometimes if you need to move quick that's what if you need to move quick that's what if you need to move quick that's what you you got to do and it looks you you got to do and it looks you you got to do and it looks good here's yeah you know we've had a good here's yeah you know we've had a good here's yeah you know we've had a bunch of photographers Deliver Us

bunch of photographers Deliver Us bunch of photographers Deliver Us galleries from churches and I galleries from churches and I galleries from churches and I have been bamboozled because there are a have been bamboozled because there are a have been bamboozled because there are a number of them that will deliver you number of them that will deliver you number of them that will deliver you know the 250 photos and you know 30 of know the 250 photos and you know 30 of know the 250 photos and you know 30 of them are black and white I'm like you them are black and white I'm like you them are black and white I'm like you know what this guy just went the extra know what this guy just went the extra know what this guy just went the extra mile this girl this this gal she went mile this girl this this gal she went mile this girl this this gal she went the extra mile to not only send us the extra mile to not only send us the extra mile to not only send us edited photos but to give us option to edited photos but to give us option to edited photos but to give us option to give us variety but what I'm come to give us variety but what I'm come to give us variety but what I'm come to learn is that all it was is a learn is that all it was is a learn is that all it was is a manufactured method to deliver the manufactured method to deliver the manufactured method to deliver the number of images we need 250 knowing number of images we need 250 knowing number of images we need 250 knowing that they actually didn't capture the that they actually didn't capture the that they actually didn't capture the images needed but they're like oh black images needed but they're like oh black images needed but they're like oh black and white wife doesn't matter what I and white wife doesn't matter what I and white wife doesn't matter what I said looks said looks said looks great well it's on recording great well it's on recording great well it's on recording now Benjamin you have been kind enough now Benjamin you have been kind enough now Benjamin you have been kind enough to send us uh provide with us uh four PR to send us uh provide with us uh four PR to send us uh provide with us uh four PR Church presets we've got two black and Church presets we've got two black and Church presets we've got two black and white and um two color portraits ones uh white and um two color portraits ones uh white and um two color portraits ones uh to everyone listening you can download to everyone listening you can download to everyone listening you can download those for free at prur tools.com those for free at prur tools.com those for free at prur tools.com presets if you want even more presets if presets if you want even more presets if presets if you want even more presets if you love uh Benjamin's work he has more you love uh Benjamin's work he has more you love uh Benjamin's work he has more that are available for purchase on his that are available for purchase on his that are available for purchase on his own site as well uh Benjamin is that own site as well uh Benjamin is that own site as well uh Benjamin is that benjamin.com benjamin.com benjamin.com presets Benjamin J there's a little presets Benjamin J there's a little presets Benjamin J there's a little that's my middle initial there so that's my middle initial there so that's my middle initial there so Benjamin jer.com Benjamin jer.com Benjamin jer.com presets and we'll have that Linked In presets and we'll have that Linked In presets and we'll have that Linked In the show notes uh as well so it's linked the show notes uh as well so it's linked the show notes uh as well so it's linked there if uh you can't remember it there if uh you can't remember it there if uh you can't remember it Benjamin we can't uh thank you enough Benjamin we can't uh thank you enough Benjamin we can't uh thank you enough for creating these presets for our for creating these presets for our for creating these presets for our entire audience but also for coming on entire audience but also for coming on entire audience but also for coming on the show and being willing to dictate as the show and being willing to dictate as the show and being willing to dictate as you edited uh these are the types of of

you edited uh these are the types of of you edited uh these are the types of of of videos that when I was first getting of videos that when I was first getting of videos that when I was first getting started I I I just would have craved started I I I just would have craved started I I I just would have craved something like this what I've had to do something like this what I've had to do something like this what I've had to do in the past is is buy like photography in the past is is buy like photography in the past is is buy like photography master classes from from folks that master classes from from folks that master classes from from folks that don't have anything to do with church don't have anything to do with church don't have anything to do with church they're doing um portrait work they're they're doing um portrait work they're they're doing um portrait work they're doing landscape work and then I try my doing landscape work and then I try my doing landscape work and then I try my best to then like bring it into the best to then like bring it into the best to then like bring it into the church world you have experience there church world you have experience there church world you have experience there even the insights from Life Church on on even the insights from Life Church on on even the insights from Life Church on on branding and not moving around the branding and not moving around the branding and not moving around the sliders to affect that specific Hue of sliders to affect that specific Hue of sliders to affect that specific Hue of red for that specific Ministry because red for that specific Ministry because red for that specific Ministry because you don't want that then to be you don't want that then to be you don't want that then to be compromised so that people don't compromised so that people don't compromised so that people don't recognize it those tiny little choices recognize it those tiny little choices recognize it those tiny little choices all of it adds up to really make a all of it adds up to really make a all of it adds up to really make a difference so we're so grateful for your difference so we're so grateful for your difference so we're so grateful for your time and thank you to everyone for your time and thank you to everyone for your time and thank you to everyone for your time attention and Trust we will talk to time attention and Trust we will talk to time attention and Trust we will talk to you we'll see you next you we'll see you next you we'll see you next Wednesday yeah not see you're going to Wednesday yeah not see you're going to Wednesday yeah not see you're going to be the avatar for the audience that's be the avatar for the audience that's be the avatar for the audience that's listening yeah I was showering and I was listening yeah I was showering and I was listening yeah I was showering and I was like and I remember that you wouldn't be like and I remember that you wouldn't be like and I remember that you wouldn't be able to