The May 2024 Mailbag [Bro Church Tools]

today on the show we're answering your today on the show we're answering your questions questions like what are the questions questions like what are the questions questions like what are the first steps that you take when you have first steps that you take when you have first steps that you take when you have a brand new problem at church questions a brand new problem at church questions a brand new problem at church questions like does being in a small town change like does being in a small town change like does being in a small town change how my church should be doing social how my church should be doing social how my church should be doing social media this is the May 2024 mailbag let's media this is the May 2024 mailbag let's media this is the May 2024 mailbag let's dive dive dive in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro Church tools show we're here to help you Church tools show we're here to help you Church tools show we're here to help you and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm Brady sh your host I'm join as always Brady sh your host I'm join as always Brady sh your host I'm join as always with my co-host we call him Reverend with my co-host we call him Reverend with my co-host we call him Reverend Rock Bottom Rock Bottom it's Alexander Rock Bottom Rock Bottom it's Alexander Rock Bottom Rock Bottom it's Alexander hello hello and today it's everyone's hello hello and today it's everyone's hello hello and today it's everyone's favorite monthly episode we're opening favorite monthly episode we're opening favorite monthly episode we're opening up the mailbag answering your questions up the mailbag answering your questions up the mailbag answering your questions it's not pro Church tools it's bro it's not pro Church tools it's bro it's not pro Church tools it's bro Church tools if you want your question Church tools if you want your question Church tools if you want your question answered on a future episode uh throw it answered on a future episode uh throw it answered on a future episode uh throw it in the comment section below this in the comment section below this in the comment section below this YouTube video you can also send us an YouTube video you can also send us an YouTube video you can also send us an email hello prochurchtools dcom Reverend email hello prochurchtools dcom Reverend email hello prochurchtools dcom Reverend rockbottom take us away with the first rockbottom take us away with the first rockbottom take us away with the first question lots of good questions today question lots of good questions today question lots of good questions today some great questions even starting off some great questions even starting off some great questions even starting off with the first one what's your opinion with the first one what's your opinion with the first one what's your opinion on sora's impact on Church content that on sora's impact on Church content that on sora's impact on Church content that is Sora s o r a looking at its is Sora s o r a looking at its is Sora s o r a looking at its capabilities I could see a pastor doing capabilities I could see a pastor doing capabilities I could see a pastor doing a series on Noah and for the content a series on Noah and for the content a series on Noah and for the content posted online you could process it posted online you could process it posted online you could process it through Sora and make it look like he's through Sora and make it look like he's through Sora and make it look like he's preaching from the ark with stuff like preaching from the ark with stuff like preaching from the ark with stuff like that in mind again what would your that in mind again what would your that in mind again what would your thoughts be so Sora is a a new tool thoughts be so Sora is a a new tool thoughts be so Sora is a a new tool newish tool from open AI it allows you newish tool from open AI it allows you newish tool from open AI it allows you to convert text into video so to this to convert text into video so to this to convert text into video so to this questioner hypothetical you could type questioner hypothetical you could type questioner hypothetical you could type in you know Ark with rain coming down in you know Ark with rain coming down in you know Ark with rain coming down and two of every animal and two of every animal and two of every animal go you can tell I've used Sora a bunch

go you can tell I've used Sora a bunch go you can tell I've used Sora a bunch um and you could create a video so now um and you could create a video so now um and you could create a video so now we've seen this with text to photo we've seen this with text to photo we've seen this with text to photo before Sora is the next step text to before Sora is the next step text to before Sora is the next step text to video and there are some examples online video and there are some examples online video and there are some examples online that are quite impressive um pretty that are quite impressive um pretty that are quite impressive um pretty pretty cool now Sora does still have pretty cool now Sora does still have pretty cool now Sora does still have currently emphasis on currently currently emphasis on currently currently emphasis on currently limitations one of them is you can't limitations one of them is you can't limitations one of them is you can't reuse a scene so if you typed in Noah's reuse a scene so if you typed in Noah's reuse a scene so if you typed in Noah's Arc two of every animal with rain coming Arc two of every animal with rain coming Arc two of every animal with rain coming down and you're like oh this is great down and you're like oh this is great down and you're like oh this is great okay I want to use this again but I just okay I want to use this again but I just okay I want to use this again but I just want a different angle of it for the want a different angle of it for the want a different angle of it for the sermon series artwork which is going to sermon series artwork which is going to sermon series artwork which is going to be different than what he's actually be different than what he's actually be different than what he's actually preaching from because the angle you preaching from because the angle you preaching from because the angle you can't there's no way that you can like can't there's no way that you can like can't there's no way that you can like adjust it like for a philosophical adjust it like for a philosophical adjust it like for a philosophical reason or it's just like no we just reason or it's just like no we just reason or it's just like no we just can't do this it that feature can't do this it that feature can't do this it that feature functionality doesn't exist yet or at functionality doesn't exist yet or at functionality doesn't exist yet or at least as of like four weeks ago when I least as of like four weeks ago when I least as of like four weeks ago when I was first exploring it and so that like was first exploring it and so that like was first exploring it and so that like presents a real limitation right like presents a real limitation right like presents a real limitation right like this came out and people were like well this came out and people were like well this came out and people were like well so much for VFX artists like you know we so much for VFX artists like you know we so much for VFX artists like you know we can just create anything we'll put it on can just create anything we'll put it on can just create anything we'll put it on the volume and we'll never need to film the volume and we'll never need to film the volume and we'll never need to film any where everywhere again except until any where everywhere again except until any where everywhere again except until you need to change the angle of the you need to change the angle of the you need to change the angle of the camera and suddenly the composition camera and suddenly the composition camera and suddenly the composition you've made has been rendered useless so you've made has been rendered useless so you've made has been rendered useless so that's one thing to consider right you that's one thing to consider right you that's one thing to consider right you could create a single thing but it's got could create a single thing but it's got could create a single thing but it's got to be just that single thing of course to be just that single thing of course to be just that single thing of course this is a current problem it is a this is a current problem it is a this is a current problem it is a temporary problem that's not going to be temporary problem that's not going to be temporary problem that's not going to be a problem um years down the road more a problem um years down the road more a problem um years down the road more broadly uh our AI policy that we broadly uh our AI policy that we broadly uh our AI policy that we recommend churches adopt or at least recommend churches adopt or at least recommend churches adopt or at least consult when you're thinking about how consult when you're thinking about how consult when you're thinking about how are we going to use this new tool are we going to use this new tool are we going to use this new tool because as I just alluded to every month because as I just alluded to every month because as I just alluded to every month every year a new tool is going to come every year a new tool is going to come every year a new tool is going to come out a new feature within an existing out a new feature within an existing out a new feature within an existing tool is going to come out and we have to

tool is going to come out and we have to tool is going to come out and we have to evaluate is this okay does this cross evaluate is this okay does this cross evaluate is this okay does this cross the line there's going to be a lot of the line there's going to be a lot of the line there's going to be a lot of evaluation in Tech right we talk about evaluation in Tech right we talk about evaluation in Tech right we talk about biggest communication shift in 500 years biggest communication shift in 500 years biggest communication shift in 500 years it's just getting ramped up with AI and it's just getting ramped up with AI and it's just getting ramped up with AI and we are going to continually have to be we are going to continually have to be we are going to continually have to be forced to reevaluate how do you do that forced to reevaluate how do you do that forced to reevaluate how do you do that policy is always useful go back to that policy is always useful go back to that policy is always useful go back to that that remains the thing that doesn't that remains the thing that doesn't that remains the thing that doesn't change while everything around you does change while everything around you does change while everything around you does so we have two parameters it's very so we have two parameters it's very so we have two parameters it's very simple parameter number one why are we simple parameter number one why are we simple parameter number one why are we using AI the answer is AI can be a using AI the answer is AI can be a using AI the answer is AI can be a useful shortcut parameter number two useful shortcut parameter number two useful shortcut parameter number two what are our boundaries for AI and our what are our boundaries for AI and our what are our boundaries for AI and our answer is we will not use AI as our answer is we will not use AI as our answer is we will not use AI as our exclusive exclusive exclusive source so how does this policy get source so how does this policy get source so how does this policy get applied to this hypothetical it's a applied to this hypothetical it's a applied to this hypothetical it's a little bit of a gray area because the little bit of a gray area because the little bit of a gray area because the source is the text that you source is the text that you source is the text that you wrote and wrote and wrote and unlike writing uh where AI can come up unlike writing uh where AI can come up unlike writing uh where AI can come up with words and claims that are with words and claims that are with words and claims that are demonstrably untrue this is Art so you demonstrably untrue this is Art so you demonstrably untrue this is Art so you could look at Noah's Arc and say I'm could look at Noah's Arc and say I'm could look at Noah's Arc and say I'm happy with this and so you kind of happy with this and so you kind of happy with this and so you kind of become the Arbiter of like if it goes become the Arbiter of like if it goes become the Arbiter of like if it goes forward so I'm still comfortable using forward so I'm still comfortable using forward so I'm still comfortable using it within this uh policy also because it within this uh policy also because it within this uh policy also because like you could make this yourself right like you could make this yourself right like you could make this yourself right you could design it you could have it you could design it you could have it you could design it you could have it designed you could film it something designed you could film it something designed you could film it something similar right we've seen that done your similar right we've seen that done your similar right we've seen that done your thoughts well this is a great question thoughts well this is a great question thoughts well this is a great question in the context of a broader conversation in the context of a broader conversation in the context of a broader conversation about the use of these um you know about the use of these um you know about the use of these um you know artificial intelligent Tools in in artificial intelligent Tools in in artificial intelligent Tools in in church you know there's one part of this church you know there's one part of this church you know there's one part of this conversation which is where does this conversation which is where does this conversation which is where does this fit in where do these tools fit in in fit in where do these tools fit in in fit in where do these tools fit in in our daily lives or in our work or in our

our daily lives or in our work or in our our daily lives or in our work or in our world but it's an altogether like world but it's an altogether like world but it's an altogether like different conversation to talk about different conversation to talk about different conversation to talk about well where does this fit in in like the well where does this fit in in like the well where does this fit in in like the ministry of of Jesus where me and trist ministry of of Jesus where me and trist ministry of of Jesus where me and trist were just talking about this this were just talking about this this were just talking about this this morning the role of AI in our lives and morning the role of AI in our lives and morning the role of AI in our lives and our work I have a friend of mine who our work I have a friend of mine who our work I have a friend of mine who works in ad marketing so Google ads works in ad marketing so Google ads works in ad marketing so Google ads Facebook ads he leads a team and Facebook ads he leads a team and Facebook ads he leads a team and actually last night he was talking on actually last night he was talking on actually last night he was talking on Instagram like about how often he uses Instagram like about how often he uses Instagram like about how often he uses chat GPT for example in his work he says chat GPT for example in his work he says chat GPT for example in his work he says he's using it like more than a handful he's using it like more than a handful he's using it like more than a handful of times a day and one of the examples of times a day and one of the examples of times a day and one of the examples he gave was he was having a uh a he was he gave was he was having a uh a he was he gave was he was having a uh a he was actually a fly on a wall of a actually a fly on a wall of a actually a fly on a wall of a conversation going on in slack between conversation going on in slack between conversation going on in slack between two of his teammates who are like trying two of his teammates who are like trying two of his teammates who are like trying to work out a to work out a to work out a problem and so he copy and pasted their problem and so he copy and pasted their problem and so he copy and pasted their conversation put it in chat gbt and said conversation put it in chat gbt and said conversation put it in chat gbt and said hey can you propose a solution to this hey can you propose a solution to this hey can you propose a solution to this problem and so he posted chat gbt's problem and so he posted chat gbt's problem and so he posted chat gbt's answer to this to this problem and it answer to this to this problem and it answer to this to this problem and it was pretty impressive it was like a was pretty impressive it was like a was pretty impressive it was like a six-part framework for like how to six-part framework for like how to six-part framework for like how to tackle this problem love youd love that tackle this problem love youd love that tackle this problem love youd love that and my friend was like well this is and my friend was like well this is and my friend was like well this is great for me as a team leader because I great for me as a team leader because I great for me as a team leader because I don't have to come to this problem uh don't have to come to this problem uh don't have to come to this problem uh from from Ground Zero from scratch I from from Ground Zero from scratch I from from Ground Zero from scratch I have something to work from because the have something to work from because the have something to work from because the this computer thing spit out uh a pretty this computer thing spit out uh a pretty this computer thing spit out uh a pretty good framework in about you know 0.2 good framework in about you know 0.2 good framework in about you know 0.2 seconds for me sorry HR you are no seconds for me sorry HR you are no seconds for me sorry HR you are no longer needed right and longer needed right and longer needed right and so for efficiency sake that's great chat so for efficiency sake that's great chat so for efficiency sake that's great chat GPT did a lot of the the leg work to get GPT did a lot of the the leg work to get GPT did a lot of the the leg work to get you started on finding a solution to you started on finding a solution to you started on finding a solution to this problem which is is is very likely this problem which is is is very likely this problem which is is is very likely um related to to revenue and in the kind um related to to revenue and in the kind um related to to revenue and in the kind of work he does like efficiency is of work he does like efficiency is of work he does like efficiency is important this is all important this is all important this is all good but the other side of that coin is

good but the other side of that coin is good but the other side of that coin is like when it comes to problem solving like when it comes to problem solving like when it comes to problem solving starting a ground zero for a problem and starting a ground zero for a problem and starting a ground zero for a problem and working through the weeds or the mud working through the weeds or the mud working through the weeds or the mud from Ground Zero actually forms you as a from Ground Zero actually forms you as a from Ground Zero actually forms you as a person to become a better Problem Solver person to become a better Problem Solver person to become a better Problem Solver so that you know when my three-year-old so that you know when my three-year-old so that you know when my three-year-old comes to me and he's got a problem my comes to me and he's got a problem my comes to me and he's got a problem my first instinct is not to consult J GPT first instinct is not to consult J GPT first instinct is not to consult J GPT but it's the history that I've built in but it's the history that I've built in but it's the history that I've built in being formed by solving problems myself being formed by solving problems myself being formed by solving problems myself and not being aided uh by the internet and not being aided uh by the internet and not being aided uh by the internet well actually I'm not going to be a well actually I'm not going to be a well actually I'm not going to be a problem solver anymore I'll just be a problem solver anymore I'll just be a problem solver anymore I'll just be a prompt solver and so long as I have the prompt solver and so long as I have the prompt solver and so long as I have the right promp see you're going to be right promp see you're going to be right promp see you're going to be living in like you're in beta world living in like you're in beta world living in like you're in beta world right like I'm in the actual Full right like I'm in the actual Full right like I'm in the actual Full Experience where I actually don't need Experience where I actually don't need Experience where I actually don't need to solve problems I can export them so to solve problems I can export them so to solve problems I can export them so long as I know how to export them that's long as I know how to export them that's long as I know how to export them that's what I'm working on right but all of what I'm working on right but all of what I'm working on right but all of that to say when it comes to the that to say when it comes to the that to say when it comes to the ministry we're doing as churches as ministry we're doing as churches as ministry we're doing as churches as pastors as community ators um online of pastors as community ators um online of pastors as community ators um online of the story of Jesus a big part of the the story of Jesus a big part of the the story of Jesus a big part of the story of Jesus and and the lifelong story of Jesus and and the lifelong story of Jesus and and the lifelong journey of following Christ is the journey of following Christ is the journey of following Christ is the formation bit it is the the slow patient formation bit it is the the slow patient formation bit it is the the slow patient ferment a Eugene Peterson would called a ferment a Eugene Peterson would called a ferment a Eugene Peterson would called a long obedience in the same direction and long obedience in the same direction and long obedience in the same direction and AI although it's useful at for doing all AI although it's useful at for doing all AI although it's useful at for doing all sorts of menial tasks that we do sorts of menial tasks that we do sorts of menial tasks that we do throughout the day is also really good throughout the day is also really good throughout the day is also really good at avoiding the formative bit of at avoiding the formative bit of at avoiding the formative bit of actually doing the work yourself so when actually doing the work yourself so when actually doing the work yourself so when it comes to our work in churches and it comes to our work in churches and it comes to our work in churches and specifically in the ministry we do specifically in the ministry we do specifically in the ministry we do that's a part of the conversation that that's a part of the conversation that that's a part of the conversation that we have have to have with AI that you we have have to have with AI that you we have have to have with AI that you don't really have to have if you're just don't really have to have if you're just don't really have to have if you're just asking chat GPT to write you an outline asking chat GPT to write you an outline asking chat GPT to write you an outline for something you're working on at work for something you're working on at work for something you're working on at work we got a question this week also we we got a question this week also we we got a question this week also we didn't include in the podcast here but I

didn't include in the podcast here but I didn't include in the podcast here but I answered it on Instagram at Brady shuer answered it on Instagram at Brady shuer answered it on Instagram at Brady shuer and the person said how do you feel and the person said how do you feel and the person said how do you feel about a pastor like writing a sermon about a pastor like writing a sermon about a pastor like writing a sermon outline using chat gbt and I said outline using chat gbt and I said outline using chat gbt and I said well I don't really know what you mean well I don't really know what you mean well I don't really know what you mean by writing a sermon outline I said do by writing a sermon outline I said do by writing a sermon outline I said do you have all the content and then you're you have all the content and then you're you have all the content and then you're asking chat GPT to organize it for you asking chat GPT to organize it for you asking chat GPT to organize it for you right because I I could see that use or right because I I could see that use or right because I I could see that use or are you saying like write me an outline are you saying like write me an outline are you saying like write me an outline on verse and then input the verse here on verse and then input the verse here on verse and then input the verse here that is now it's creating Source that is now it's creating Source that is now it's creating Source material that would be not how I would material that would be not how I would material that would be not how I would apply the policy like don't do that apply the policy like don't do that apply the policy like don't do that whereas if you have the content you're whereas if you have the content you're whereas if you have the content you're like hey could you like organize this like hey could you like organize this like hey could you like organize this for me in ways great maybe you're just for me in ways great maybe you're just for me in ways great maybe you're just great at like stream of Consciousness great at like stream of Consciousness great at like stream of Consciousness and you like just spoke for like eight and you like just spoke for like eight and you like just spoke for like eight minutes and then use that voice minutes and then use that voice minutes and then use that voice recording transcribed it sent it to chat recording transcribed it sent it to chat recording transcribed it sent it to chat gbt and as the prompt solver that you gbt and as the prompt solver that you gbt and as the prompt solver that you are asked it to organize that cont okay are asked it to organize that cont okay are asked it to organize that cont okay that's interesting you know at least it that's interesting you know at least it that's interesting you know at least it would abide within this policy and to would abide within this policy and to would abide within this policy and to emphasize with all policies just because emphasize with all policies just because emphasize with all policies just because something abides within the policy something abides within the policy something abides within the policy doesn't mean you must do it right if it doesn't mean you must do it right if it doesn't mean you must do it right if it doesn't it means you must not do it 99% doesn't it means you must not do it 99% doesn't it means you must not do it 99% of the time but just because it works in of the time but just because it works in of the time but just because it works in the policy so okay value wise this works the policy so okay value wise this works the policy so okay value wise this works and then now finally where is our and then now finally where is our and then now finally where is our conviction level at where is kind of the conviction level at where is kind of the conviction level at where is kind of the gut check at where do we feel like the gut check at where do we feel like the gut check at where do we feel like the holy spirit is speaking to us and then holy spirit is speaking to us and then holy spirit is speaking to us and then you can apply that kind of finally and you can apply that kind of finally and you can apply that kind of finally and there are some really innovative ways to there are some really innovative ways to there are some really innovative ways to to use and integrate AI into your to use and integrate AI into your to use and integrate AI into your workflow at church like for example workflow at church like for example workflow at church like for example taking a Sunday sermon that your pastor taking a Sunday sermon that your pastor taking a Sunday sermon that your pastor has preached maybe taking his his or her has preached maybe taking his his or her has preached maybe taking his his or her manuscript putting it into chat GPT and manuscript putting it into chat GPT and manuscript putting it into chat GPT and asking chat GPT to make a children's asking chat GPT to make a children's asking chat GPT to make a children's lesson based off this content that is so

lesson based off this content that is so lesson based off this content that is so great for your children's ministry great for your children's ministry great for your children's ministry because now your children's ministry has because now your children's ministry has because now your children's ministry has the opportunity to be in sync with the opportunity to be in sync with the opportunity to be in sync with what's going on in Big Church you're what's going on in Big Church you're what's going on in Big Church you're tackling the same maybe you're going tackling the same maybe you're going tackling the same maybe you're going through the 23rd PSAL or something so through the 23rd PSAL or something so through the 23rd PSAL or something so you get to go through it at the same you get to go through it at the same you get to go through it at the same time and based off the same content that time and based off the same content that time and based off the same content that chat GPT does a lot of that again that chat GPT does a lot of that again that chat GPT does a lot of that again that that busy work that leg work of of that busy work that leg work of of that busy work that leg work of of taking this big piece of content a 30 40 taking this big piece of content a 30 40 taking this big piece of content a 30 40 minut manuscript and Distilling it into minut manuscript and Distilling it into minut manuscript and Distilling it into you know an 8-week kids program in you know an 8-week kids program in you know an 8-week kids program in church that's a really great way to use church that's a really great way to use church that's a really great way to use these tools to to you know make our work these tools to to you know make our work these tools to to you know make our work during the week be more efficient during the week be more efficient during the week be more efficient without it being the actual source of without it being the actual source of without it being the actual source of the the ministry that we're trying to to the the ministry that we're trying to to the the ministry that we're trying to to serve our church with a conversation serve our church with a conversation serve our church with a conversation we're going to be having uh a lot for a we're going to be having uh a lot for a we're going to be having uh a lot for a long time I think how how do these tools long time I think how how do these tools long time I think how how do these tools fit into into our world into our daily fit into into our world into our daily fit into into our world into our daily rhythms and certainly into our spiritual rhythms and certainly into our spiritual rhythms and certainly into our spiritual formation rhythms luckily we have a formation rhythms luckily we have a formation rhythms luckily we have a policy yes next question what do you do policy yes next question what do you do policy yes next question what do you do when you face a new problem what is your when you face a new problem what is your when you face a new problem what is your thought process let me tell you about a thought process let me tell you about a thought process let me tell you about a policy the first thing I have written policy the first thing I have written policy the first thing I have written down here is do the work ahead of time down here is do the work ahead of time down here is do the work ahead of time what are your values so basically the what are your values so basically the what are your values so basically the exact same answer to start off as the exact same answer to start off as the exact same answer to start off as the previous one which is like hey there's previous one which is like hey there's previous one which is like hey there's this new tool how do we use it well what this new tool how do we use it well what this new tool how do we use it well what are our values okay there's this new are our values okay there's this new are our values okay there's this new problem how do I approach it how do I problem how do I approach it how do I problem how do I approach it how do I confront it well what are our values you confront it well what are our values you confront it well what are our values you have to think about what kind of person have to think about what kind of person have to think about what kind of person do I want to be and and how do I want to do I want to be and and how do I want to do I want to be and and how do I want to handle problems and you have to think handle problems and you have to think handle problems and you have to think about that now you have to decide okay about that now you have to decide okay about that now you have to decide okay if a problem comes if a problem comes if a problem comes forward when I look back on it with 2020

forward when I look back on it with 2020 forward when I look back on it with 2020 how do I want to see oh you know what I how do I want to see oh you know what I how do I want to see oh you know what I did this this and this not just did this this and this not just did this this and this not just practically but emotionally spiritually practically but emotionally spiritually practically but emotionally spiritually so that's where we've talked previously so that's where we've talked previously so that's where we've talked previously earlier episode this year on our earlier episode this year on our earlier episode this year on our non-negotiable values you can you can go non-negotiable values you can you can go non-negotiable values you can you can go back through YouTube for the archive and back through YouTube for the archive and back through YouTube for the archive and find it if you want to get like in deep find it if you want to get like in deep find it if you want to get like in deep to how we do the value side of things so to how we do the value side of things so to how we do the value side of things so that's kind of like the blueprint in the that's kind of like the blueprint in the that's kind of like the blueprint in the moment I I first kind of check on my moment I I first kind of check on my moment I I first kind of check on my physical response so this happened to me physical response so this happened to me physical response so this happened to me last Monday I get a message it's Monday last Monday I get a message it's Monday last Monday I get a message it's Monday morning and the message was from Sunday morning and the message was from Sunday morning and the message was from Sunday night but I got it Monday morning and it night but I got it Monday morning and it night but I got it Monday morning and it was one of those messages that you read was one of those messages that you read was one of those messages that you read and you're and you're and you're like rard and so I'm like okay what am I like rard and so I'm like okay what am I like rard and so I'm like okay what am I feeling in my body because and this is feeling in my body because and this is feeling in my body because and this is why this matters and I don't want this why this matters and I don't want this why this matters and I don't want this to sound like too like woo woo like oh to sound like too like woo woo like oh to sound like too like woo woo like oh check on your body the reason this check on your body the reason this check on your body the reason this matters if like if I can detect like matters if like if I can detect like matters if like if I can detect like okay my heart my heart rate is up um okay my heart my heart rate is up um okay my heart my heart rate is up um clearly my amydala is activated the part clearly my amydala is activated the part clearly my amydala is activated the part of my brain that's like fear anxiety of my brain that's like fear anxiety of my brain that's like fear anxiety anger it is like going then what I know anger it is like going then what I know anger it is like going then what I know is true about all of humans is that I am is true about all of humans is that I am is true about all of humans is that I am compromised in this moment my compromised in this moment my compromised in this moment my decision-making ability the rational decision-making ability the rational decision-making ability the rational part of my brain is being eaten up by part of my brain is being eaten up by part of my brain is being eaten up by like the fear anxiety anger center of my like the fear anxiety anger center of my like the fear anxiety anger center of my brain okay so that's like saying I have brain okay so that's like saying I have brain okay so that's like saying I have a sprained ankle am I going to go for a a sprained ankle am I going to go for a a sprained ankle am I going to go for a run right now well no I have a sprained run right now well no I have a sprained run right now well no I have a sprained ankle I'm going to check my body first ankle I'm going to check my body first ankle I'm going to check my body first the exact same thing why can't I go for the exact same thing why can't I go for the exact same thing why can't I go for a run right now I want to right but you a run right now I want to right but you a run right now I want to right but you are compromised you have a sprained are compromised you have a sprained are compromised you have a sprained ankle you cannot do that maybe a walk or

ankle you cannot do that maybe a walk or ankle you cannot do that maybe a walk or consider crutches you can still get consider crutches you can still get consider crutches you can still get through it so I didn't have a spray through it so I didn't have a spray through it so I didn't have a spray ankle in this case but I went for an ankle in this case but I went for an ankle in this case but I went for an actual walk so what I did was I was actual walk so what I did was I was actual walk so what I did was I was having this physical response so I having this physical response so I having this physical response so I removed myself from the situation and removed myself from the situation and removed myself from the situation and physically changed what was happening I physically changed what was happening I physically changed what was happening I gave it an hour on this walk and then I gave it an hour on this walk and then I gave it an hour on this walk and then I sat down again to write through what I sat down again to write through what I sat down again to write through what I was going to say in response so this was going to say in response so this was going to say in response so this specific problem was like okay here's specific problem was like okay here's specific problem was like okay here's this message that comes in I need to this message that comes in I need to this message that comes in I need to provide a response at that point I was provide a response at that point I was provide a response at that point I was no longer worked up I was no longer no longer worked up I was no longer no longer worked up I was no longer compromised I was in a clean and clear compromised I was in a clean and clear compromised I was in a clean and clear head space and what did I do first I head space and what did I do first I head space and what did I do first I wrote an angry response and then deleted wrote an angry response and then deleted wrote an angry response and then deleted it I find this incredibly cathartic it I find this incredibly cathartic it I find this incredibly cathartic everything that I want to say everything everything that I want to say everything everything that I want to say everything that I'm feeling that's like not aligned that I'm feeling that's like not aligned that I'm feeling that's like not aligned with my values this is not who I want to with my values this is not who I want to with my values this is not who I want to be I write it and I delete it I don't be I write it and I delete it I don't be I write it and I delete it I don't always do but in this case I did and I always do but in this case I did and I always do but in this case I did and I wrote a message that was like well wrote a message that was like well wrote a message that was like well here's why you did and you and this is here's why you did and you and this is here's why you did and you and this is your and I wrote it back and I was like your and I wrote it back and I was like your and I wrote it back and I was like we need to come to a conclusion know and we need to come to a conclusion know and we need to come to a conclusion know and I finessed it and I was like okay that's I finessed it and I was like okay that's I finessed it and I was like okay that's that's more aligned with my values so that's more aligned with my values so that's more aligned with my values so now I'm physically in the right space now I'm physically in the right space now I'm physically in the right space and then finally what I do and the walk and then finally what I do and the walk and then finally what I do and the walk really helped with this in this specific really helped with this in this specific really helped with this in this specific occasion but even just going to a occasion but even just going to a occasion but even just going to a different room breathing taking a f different room breathing taking a f different room breathing taking a f minute break can be just as impactful is minute break can be just as impactful is minute break can be just as impactful is I reassess from altitude okay now I'm I reassess from altitude okay now I'm I reassess from altitude okay now I'm not like in the mud with my feelings on not like in the mud with my feelings on not like in the mud with my feelings on this this this I can remove the emotion from the I can remove the emotion from the I can remove the emotion from the equation okay values Wise reassessing equation okay values Wise reassessing equation okay values Wise reassessing from altitude how do I want to handle from altitude how do I want to handle from altitude how do I want to handle this the key is basically just hijacking this the key is basically just hijacking this the key is basically just hijacking the part of your brain that's hijacking the part of your brain that's hijacking the part of your brain that's hijacking you in the moment and not letting it you in the moment and not letting it you in the moment and not letting it dictate how you uh respond um because

dictate how you uh respond um because dictate how you uh respond um because you want to respond you don't want to you want to respond you don't want to you want to respond you don't want to react we employ this a lot in our react we employ this a lot in our react we employ this a lot in our parenting as well we're parenting a parenting as well we're parenting a parenting as well we're parenting a three-year-old uh for anyone who has not three-year-old uh for anyone who has not three-year-old uh for anyone who has not just parented a three-year-old but spent just parented a three-year-old but spent just parented a three-year-old but spent time around a three-year-old for any any time around a three-year-old for any any time around a three-year-old for any any length of time length of time length of time um you just know that they're like not um you just know that they're like not um you just know that they're like not the most rational creatures and that Mak the most rational creatures and that Mak the most rational creatures and that Mak sense because these parts of their sense because these parts of their sense because these parts of their physiological selves their bodies their physiological selves their bodies their physiological selves their bodies their brains are not fully formed yet and so brains are not fully formed yet and so brains are not fully formed yet and so they just get set off and overreact and they just get set off and overreact and they just get set off and overreact and underreact in some cases to like just underreact in some cases to like just underreact in some cases to like just the most outlandish things so we have the most outlandish things so we have the most outlandish things so we have this policy in our house is that we will this policy in our house is that we will this policy in our house is that we will not discipline If the child is not discipline If the child is not discipline If the child is disregulated or if I'm disregulated disregulated or if I'm disregulated disregulated or if I'm disregulated because that's that's that's coming if because that's that's that's coming if because that's that's that's coming if if I'm just if I'm trying to discipline if I'm just if I'm trying to discipline if I'm just if I'm trying to discipline bring a rational conse or something to a bring a rational conse or something to a bring a rational conse or something to a child who is disregulated that's falling child who is disregulated that's falling child who is disregulated that's falling on proverbial deaf ears because they're on proverbial deaf ears because they're on proverbial deaf ears because they're activated the in the amydala sense they activated the in the amydala sense they activated the in the amydala sense they they are not online right their their they are not online right their their they are not online right their their rational brain is not online so it's not rational brain is not online so it's not rational brain is not online so it's not profitable to try and and discipline in profitable to try and and discipline in profitable to try and and discipline in that moment it will be later but we have that moment it will be later but we have that moment it will be later but we have to come down from that first but it also to come down from that first but it also to come down from that first but it also works in the inverse if I'm disregulated works in the inverse if I'm disregulated works in the inverse if I'm disregulated if I'm feeling frustrated or angry or if I'm feeling frustrated or angry or if I'm feeling frustrated or angry or sad or anxious I don't I I can't be sad or anxious I don't I I can't be sad or anxious I don't I I can't be responsible for um you know dishing out responsible for um you know dishing out responsible for um you know dishing out appropriate rational discipline um in appropriate rational discipline um in appropriate rational discipline um in that type of moment either so I have a that type of moment either so I have a that type of moment either so I have a responsibility to myself and so I just responsibility to myself and so I just responsibility to myself and so I just say that to affirm what you're saying say that to affirm what you're saying say that to affirm what you're saying about because when I read this question about because when I read this question about because when I read this question that was my my first instinct as well that was my my first instinct as well that was my my first instinct as well it's like oh when a problem occurs it's like oh when a problem occurs it's like oh when a problem occurs whether it's at work or home or whatever whether it's at work or home or whatever whether it's at work or home or whatever like it's imperative that we check in like it's imperative that we check in like it's imperative that we check in with what we're we know that feeling of

with what we're we know that feeling of with what we're we know that feeling of not just the increased heart rate but not just the increased heart rate but not just the increased heart rate but like your body starts to feel a little like your body starts to feel a little like your body starts to feel a little warm you know like you start to feel a warm you know like you start to feel a warm you know like you start to feel a little bit hot yeah and it's like that's little bit hot yeah and it's like that's little bit hot yeah and it's like that's not bad like the feeling is fine it's not bad like the feeling is fine it's not bad like the feeling is fine it's valid but you just have to end to it valid but you just have to end to it valid but you just have to end to it first so that you can respond to what's first so that you can respond to what's first so that you can respond to what's happening as opposed to reacting to it happening as opposed to reacting to it happening as opposed to reacting to it um so it just takes a little bit of um so it just takes a little bit of um so it just takes a little bit of mindfulness it takes a lot of practice mindfulness it takes a lot of practice mindfulness it takes a lot of practice um but you end up on the other side of um but you end up on the other side of um but you end up on the other side of of practicing that to the point where of practicing that to the point where of practicing that to the point where you've become formed by it it's just you've become formed by it it's just you've become formed by it it's just it's now your instinct when you do get it's now your instinct when you do get it's now your instinct when you do get activated to like take a pause and not activated to like take a pause and not activated to like take a pause and not react you just turn into a better react you just turn into a better react you just turn into a better Problem Solver you turn into a better Problem Solver you turn into a better Problem Solver you turn into a better boss a better parent a better friend a boss a better parent a better friend a boss a better parent a better friend a better better Pastor better employee better better Pastor better employee better better Pastor better employee better employer uh because you're just better employer uh because you're just better employer uh because you're just bringing you're a better version of bringing you're a better version of bringing you're a better version of yourself to the table when it's time to yourself to the table when it's time to yourself to the table when it's time to come to the table and actually solve a come to the table and actually solve a come to the table and actually solve a problem and this really speaks to the problem and this really speaks to the problem and this really speaks to the importance of policy because Alex has a importance of policy because Alex has a importance of policy because Alex has a three-year-old and a not one-year-old I three-year-old and a not one-year-old I three-year-old and a not one-year-old I have a 9-year-old and a have a 9-year-old and a have a 9-year-old and a 2-year-old and the 2-year-old is 2-year-old and the 2-year-old is 2-year-old and the 2-year-old is starting to do three-year-old things starting to do three-year-old things starting to do three-year-old things like they're just getting into that age like they're just getting into that age like they're just getting into that age and my my my precious baby girl who has and my my my precious baby girl who has and my my my precious baby girl who has been like the perfect child at this been like the perfect child at this been like the perfect child at this point is just she's starting to whine point is just she's starting to whine point is just she's starting to whine about things when she doesn't get her about things when she doesn't get her about things when she doesn't get her way and I'm like oh no and what's crazy way and I'm like oh no and what's crazy way and I'm like oh no and what's crazy is remembering what happened with our is remembering what happened with our is remembering what happened with our first the problem is so it's the age gap first the problem is so it's the age gap first the problem is so it's the age gap between these two has been delightful in between these two has been delightful in between these two has been delightful in every way one of the downsides is I'm every way one of the downsides is I'm every way one of the downsides is I'm kind of sometimes disciplining the kind of sometimes disciplining the kind of sometimes disciplining the 9-year-old like the 2-year-old and the 9-year-old like the 2-year-old and the 9-year-old like the 2-year-old and the 2-year-old like the 9-year-old like all 2-year-old like the 9-year-old like all 2-year-old like the 9-year-old like all right they're like very very different right they're like very very different right they're like very very different in their ability to process information

in their ability to process information in their ability to process information and manage their own emotions I was and manage their own emotions I was and manage their own emotions I was talking with my wife yesterday and was talking with my wife yesterday and was talking with my wife yesterday and was like hey you know what we just keep like hey you know what we just keep like hey you know what we just keep trying your best you really did a good trying your best you really did a good trying your best you really did a good job in this moment she brought herself job in this moment she brought herself job in this moment she brought herself out of like a disregulated State and out of like a disregulated State and out of like a disregulated State and then spoke calmly to the child who was then spoke calmly to the child who was then spoke calmly to the child who was aggravating us to the aggravating us to the aggravating us to the 9-year-old and uh I affirmed her in that 9-year-old and uh I affirmed her in that 9-year-old and uh I affirmed her in that but we don't have a policy for this and but we don't have a policy for this and but we don't have a policy for this and so like as soon as Alex said that I was so like as soon as Alex said that I was so like as soon as Alex said that I was like Ah intuitively that's what I'm like Ah intuitively that's what I'm like Ah intuitively that's what I'm grasping at but we don't have shared grasping at but we don't have shared grasping at but we don't have shared language and so I'm going to steal that language and so I'm going to steal that language and so I'm going to steal that policy from him and I am going to policy from him and I am going to policy from him and I am going to implement it and for every policy around implement it and for every policy around implement it and for every policy around here is free again absolutely policy here is free again absolutely policy here is free again absolutely policy value rule for Life principle philosophy value rule for Life principle philosophy value rule for Life principle philosophy standard whatever you want to call it standard whatever you want to call it standard whatever you want to call it and now that's actually going to allow and now that's actually going to allow and now that's actually going to allow us to live that out better because we'll us to live that out better because we'll us to live that out better because we'll have shared language over it there's have shared language over it there's have shared language over it there's Clarity there is boundaries to what we Clarity there is boundaries to what we Clarity there is boundaries to what we will do and what we won't do and that will do and what we won't do and that will do and what we won't do and that will give us the chance to practice the will give us the chance to practice the will give us the chance to practice the formation to become better I play formation to become better I play formation to become better I play basketball as a kid one of my coaches basketball as a kid one of my coaches basketball as a kid one of my coaches always remember what she said she said always remember what she said she said always remember what she said she said practice doesn't make perfect perfect practice doesn't make perfect perfect practice doesn't make perfect perfect practice makes perfect she means it's practice makes perfect she means it's practice makes perfect she means it's like if you practice a bad jump shot you like if you practice a bad jump shot you like if you practice a bad jump shot you don't get better you'll just get worse don't get better you'll just get worse don't get better you'll just get worse at being bad which would be better at being bad which would be better at being bad which would be better you'll get better at being bad which you'll get better at being bad which you'll get better at being bad which would be worse yes the point is if my would be worse yes the point is if my would be worse yes the point is if my wife and I keep practicing this without wife and I keep practicing this without wife and I keep practicing this without shared language we're not going to shared language we're not going to shared language we're not going to actually be practicing it in its actually be practicing it in its actually be practicing it in its fullness as well as we could Alex talked fullness as well as we could Alex talked fullness as well as we could Alex talked about formation so we're not actually about formation so we're not actually about formation so we're not actually like getting down that formation path as like getting down that formation path as like getting down that formation path as quickly as we would if we just had quickly as we would if we just had quickly as we would if we just had shared language and then could affirm shared language and then could affirm shared language and then could affirm the other person could challenge the

the other person could challenge the the other person could challenge the other person and we're just like we're other person and we're just like we're other person and we're just like we're on the sh same page thank you you're on the sh same page thank you you're on the sh same page thank you you're welcome yeah all policies are free welcome yeah all policies are free welcome yeah all policies are free around here that's our new that's a new around here that's our new that's a new around here that's our new that's a new tagline for show that's the policy for tagline for show that's the policy for tagline for show that's the policy for the policy all policies are free exactly the policy all policies are free exactly the policy all policies are free exactly next question question hey I'm a new next question question hey I'm a new next question question hey I'm a new social media manager at a midsize church social media manager at a midsize church social media manager at a midsize church since starting I've increased our since starting I've increased our since starting I've increased our posting frequency on all platforms by posting frequency on all platforms by posting frequency on all platforms by quite a bit so that we're now posting quite a bit so that we're now posting quite a bit so that we're now posting Just a Touch less than the major Just a Touch less than the major Just a Touch less than the major churches in our area my question is what churches in our area my question is what churches in our area my question is what sort of recommendations do you have sort of recommendations do you have sort of recommendations do you have regarding backup posts or posts that are regarding backup posts or posts that are regarding backup posts or posts that are prepared and ready to go in case of an prepared and ready to go in case of an prepared and ready to go in case of an emergency and I'm unable to create emergency and I'm unable to create emergency and I'm unable to create additional content for some time additional content for some time additional content for some time obviously there's some difference in our obviously there's some difference in our obviously there's some difference in our Church's case because I'm the only Church's case because I'm the only Church's case because I'm the only person making content where Church like person making content where Church like person making content where Church like elevation has a team of people in case elevation has a team of people in case elevation has a team of people in case one person has an emergency so I first one person has an emergency so I first one person has an emergency so I first heard this term from buddy of mine Nick heard this term from buddy of mine Nick heard this term from buddy of mine Nick Goodner creative Church the idea of a of Goodner creative Church the idea of a of Goodner creative Church the idea of a of a rainy day fund for Content or an a rainy day fund for Content or an a rainy day fund for Content or an emergency fund for content and I emergency fund for content and I emergency fund for content and I remember hearing that being struck by it remember hearing that being struck by it remember hearing that being struck by it being like ah that is a genius idea being like ah that is a genius idea being like ah that is a genius idea because what happens is we know that for because what happens is we know that for because what happens is we know that for Success on social to be achieved we have Success on social to be achieved we have Success on social to be achieved we have to commit to the rhythm of No weeks off to commit to the rhythm of No weeks off to commit to the rhythm of No weeks off well what happens when you're not able well what happens when you're not able well what happens when you're not able to create content in a given week it's to create content in a given week it's to create content in a given week it's imperative that you do no weeks off so imperative that you do no weeks off so imperative that you do no weeks off so you have to have a rainy day fund or an you have to have a rainy day fund or an you have to have a rainy day fund or an emergency fund or some type of backup emergency fund or some type of backup emergency fund or some type of backup plan for when the unexpected happens the plan for when the unexpected happens the plan for when the unexpected happens the same with the budget well the mortgage same with the budget well the mortgage same with the budget well the mortgage gets taken out on the first so payroll gets taken out on the first so payroll gets taken out on the first so payroll in the business gets taken out on the

in the business gets taken out on the in the business gets taken out on the first um you also have a no weeks off first um you also have a no weeks off first um you also have a no weeks off policy with your bank right said it's no policy with your bank right said it's no policy with your bank right said it's no months off and so if you don't have a months off and so if you don't have a months off and so if you don't have a fix for that like we made some fix for that like we made some fix for that like we made some accounting changes um in our business accounting changes um in our business accounting changes um in our business this past month um some accountants this past month um some accountants this past month um some accountants where hey we want to um basically just where hey we want to um basically just where hey we want to um basically just like close the books at a different time like close the books at a different time like close the books at a different time per month to get there you basically per month to get there you basically per month to get there you basically need to not take any money for a full need to not take any money for a full need to not take any money for a full 30-day period and then you can resume as 30-day period and then you can resume as 30-day period and then you can resume as normal um and then we can even like normal um and then we can even like normal um and then we can even like backload it but you just need just float backload it but you just need just float backload it but you just need just float for 30 days I was like okay well we have for 30 days I was like okay well we have for 30 days I was like okay well we have a rainy day fund we just borrow from a rainy day fund we just borrow from a rainy day fund we just borrow from that and then we pay it right back once that and then we pay it right back once that and then we pay it right back once like the accounting is closed at the like the accounting is closed at the like the accounting is closed at the different time of the month so the same different time of the month so the same different time of the month so the same can be true for your content schedule can be true for your content schedule can be true for your content schedule now I'll be honest I have yet to do this now I'll be honest I have yet to do this now I'll be honest I have yet to do this because like I'm putting all my effort because like I'm putting all my effort because like I'm putting all my effort into content creation the thought of into content creation the thought of into content creation the thought of like making content and then just like making content and then just like making content and then just banking it it's like well that's a lot banking it it's like well that's a lot banking it it's like well that's a lot of creative effort and yet when I set my of creative effort and yet when I set my of creative effort and yet when I set my goals at the beginning of the year it goals at the beginning of the year it goals at the beginning of the year it was like okay this much post every was like okay this much post every was like okay this much post every single week on YouTube and uh except for single week on YouTube and uh except for single week on YouTube and uh except for two weeks because you know Christmas two weeks because you know Christmas two weeks because you know Christmas well I'm already like a week or two well I'm already like a week or two well I'm already like a week or two behind on YouTube so I made a commitment behind on YouTube so I made a commitment behind on YouTube so I made a commitment and I've been very good with it but and I've been very good with it but and I've been very good with it but there were a couple things that came up there were a couple things that came up there were a couple things that came up that I couldn't have foreseen and we had that I couldn't have foreseen and we had that I couldn't have foreseen and we had one backup piece of content on YouTu one backup piece of content on YouTu one backup piece of content on YouTu YouTube so we used it apparently I YouTube so we used it apparently I YouTube so we used it apparently I needed three instead of one and so this needed three instead of one and so this needed three instead of one and so this is something that we can all um work to is something that we can all um work to is something that we can all um work to to do the key is the content cannot be to do the key is the content cannot be to do the key is the content cannot be timely in any way not not as big of a timely in any way not not as big of a timely in any way not not as big of a problem for churches because like we problem for churches because like we problem for churches because like we talk we're talking from the Bible which talk we're talking from the Bible which talk we're talking from the Bible which you know is timeless right so you're you know is timeless right so you're you know is timeless right so you're good there if I'm doing spring 2024

good there if I'm doing spring 2024 good there if I'm doing spring 2024 Trends and then that you can't put that Trends and then that you can't put that Trends and then that you can't put that one in the that's not in the bank so you one in the that's not in the bank so you one in the that's not in the bank so you have to find stuff in the bank um that have to find stuff in the bank um that have to find stuff in the bank um that is timeless and then one more word of is timeless and then one more word of is timeless and then one more word of encouragement here practic encouragement here practic encouragement here practic is if you've been doing this for a while is if you've been doing this for a while is if you've been doing this for a while you can reuse content so I published a you can reuse content so I published a you can reuse content so I published a post today and it post today and it post today and it was a carousel best times for churches was a carousel best times for churches was a carousel best times for churches to post on social media it's going to to post on social media it's going to to post on social media it's going to get thousands of likes why because the get thousands of likes why because the get thousands of likes why because the last time I posted it it got thousands last time I posted it it got thousands last time I posted it it got thousands of likes right all I did was update the of likes right all I did was update the of likes right all I did was update the times right based on some new research times right based on some new research times right based on some new research but I published a post last week another but I published a post last week another but I published a post last week another Carousel why churches fail to develop Carousel why churches fail to develop Carousel why churches fail to develop volunteers 6,000 likes I knew it was volunteers 6,000 likes I knew it was volunteers 6,000 likes I knew it was going to get a ton of likes because the going to get a ton of likes because the going to get a ton of likes because the last time I posted the identical post last time I posted the identical post last time I posted the identical post called why churches failed to develop called why churches failed to develop called why churches failed to develop volunteers it got 5,000 less identical volunteers it got 5,000 less identical volunteers it got 5,000 less identical um creative as well or just copy not um creative as well or just copy not um creative as well or just copy not identical creative because in the last identical creative because in the last identical creative because in the last time we hadn't done the new brand okay time we hadn't done the new brand okay time we hadn't done the new brand okay but like identical bold Carousel styling but like identical bold Carousel styling but like identical bold Carousel styling it just had like a different color it just had like a different color it just had like a different color background so like virtually identical background so like virtually identical background so like virtually identical um so you know yeah it was green yeah it um so you know yeah it was green yeah it um so you know yeah it was green yeah it was green last time yeah but then this was green last time yeah but then this was green last time yeah but then this time it was red well and this is like time it was red well and this is like time it was red well and this is like this is related to the the social era this is related to the the social era this is related to the the social era we're living in right now we talk about we're living in right now we talk about we're living in right now we talk about this almost every time we turn these this almost every time we turn these this almost every time we turn these mics on is we're we're living online in mics on is we're we're living online in mics on is we're we're living online in in a discovery era where whatever you in a discovery era where whatever you in a discovery era where whatever you post today has an opportunity to reach a post today has an opportunity to reach a post today has an opportunity to reach a brand new audience every time you post brand new audience every time you post brand new audience every time you post it which was not true of a social graph it which was not true of a social graph it which was not true of a social graph area where it was predominantly being area where it was predominantly being area where it was predominantly being delivered to your followers and so in a

delivered to your followers and so in a delivered to your followers and so in a soci social graph era reposting content soci social graph era reposting content soci social graph era reposting content was a not just a little bit of a faux was a not just a little bit of a faux was a not just a little bit of a faux paw but was um like redundant to the paw but was um like redundant to the paw but was um like redundant to the point of being a little bit useless point of being a little bit useless point of being a little bit useless because you're posting same content to because you're posting same content to because you're posting same content to the same people but for any of us who the same people but for any of us who the same people but for any of us who take any time looking through our our take any time looking through our our take any time looking through our our Instagram insights for example when we Instagram insights for example when we Instagram insights for example when we post content we're predominantly post content we're predominantly post content we're predominantly reaching new new people every time we reaching new new people every time we reaching new new people every time we post and a very small uh portion of that post and a very small uh portion of that post and a very small uh portion of that little py graph is actually folks who little py graph is actually folks who little py graph is actually folks who follow us so there's actually no harm in follow us so there's actually no harm in follow us so there's actually no harm in you posting identical content you know I you posting identical content you know I you posting identical content you know I don't know how many that was a few don't know how many that was a few don't know how many that was a few months ago that post so like not not six months ago that post so like not not six months ago that post so like not not six months is about what I do so not from months is about what I do so not from months is about what I do so not from what you posted last week but I've been what you posted last week but I've been what you posted last week but I've been doing that as well like I on my little doing that as well like I on my little doing that as well like I on my little coffee blog online there are some some coffee blog online there are some some coffee blog online there are some some posts that I'm really proud of like the posts that I'm really proud of like the posts that I'm really proud of like the copy cuz I write like long captions like copy cuz I write like long captions like copy cuz I write like long captions like mini blogs sort of are you really proud mini blogs sort of are you really proud mini blogs sort of are you really proud of the one that went viral no I don't of the one that went viral no I don't of the one that went viral no I don't want to talk about that um but and so want to talk about that um but and so want to talk about that um but and so I've been doing that I've just been like I've been doing that I've just been like I've been doing that I've just been like reaching back like way into my archive reaching back like way into my archive reaching back like way into my archive finding posts that I work hard on that I finding posts that I work hard on that I finding posts that I work hard on that I worked hard on that I'm proud of and worked hard on that I'm proud of and worked hard on that I'm proud of and just posting that copy again with new just posting that copy again with new just posting that copy again with new creative there's no harm in that now in creative there's no harm in that now in creative there's no harm in that now in this discovery era um so that that's a this discovery era um so that that's a this discovery era um so that that's a great way to to you're not cheating a a great way to to you're not cheating a a great way to to you're not cheating a a rainy day fund but like to build it up rainy day fund but like to build it up rainy day fund but like to build it up um without doing a whole lot of of new um without doing a whole lot of of new um without doing a whole lot of of new work there I love that okay next work there I love that okay next work there I love that okay next question uh besides solving problems question uh besides solving problems question uh besides solving problems because it sounds like you've got that because it sounds like you've got that because it sounds like you've got that under control what's the hardest thing under control what's the hardest thing under control what's the hardest thing about entrepreneurship so on the same about entrepreneurship so on the same about entrepreneurship so on the same day this question came in I saw a post day this question came in I saw a post day this question came in I saw a post come across my Twitter feed that said come across my Twitter feed that said come across my Twitter feed that said the hardest thing about entrepreneurship the hardest thing about entrepreneurship the hardest thing about entrepreneurship is not having anyone to

is not having anyone to is not having anyone to call and I could not disagree more I for call and I could not disagree more I for call and I could not disagree more I for me have never thought that once and I me have never thought that once and I me have never thought that once and I think there's a few reason for this one think there's a few reason for this one think there's a few reason for this one I have a very strong support group of I have a very strong support group of I have a very strong support group of friends and family and they're quite friends and family and they're quite friends and family and they're quite good at allowing me to basically share good at allowing me to basically share good at allowing me to basically share all my feelings and then get to work all my feelings and then get to work all my feelings and then get to work solving it which is kind of a unique solving it which is kind of a unique solving it which is kind of a unique Dynamic um like my the best example of Dynamic um like my the best example of Dynamic um like my the best example of this is my wife so she'll be like what's this is my wife so she'll be like what's this is my wife so she'll be like what's wrong I be like well you know I got this wrong I be like well you know I got this wrong I be like well you know I got this message on Monday morning like duh and message on Monday morning like duh and message on Monday morning like duh and she's like oh yeah yeah and like she'll she's like oh yeah yeah and like she'll she's like oh yeah yeah and like she'll just let me like get the feelings out just let me like get the feelings out just let me like get the feelings out catharsis and then she'll be like well catharsis and then she'll be like well catharsis and then she'll be like well now you can solve it like she's like I now you can solve it like she's like I now you can solve it like she's like I can't Sol it what do you think I can do can't Sol it what do you think I can do can't Sol it what do you think I can do like you go do that yeah sa around the like you go do that yeah sa around the like you go do that yeah sa around the office sometimes you'll have like a office sometimes you'll have like a office sometimes you'll have like a Brady therapy hour where I'm like all Brady therapy hour where I'm like all Brady therapy hour where I'm like all right Monday meeting on a Wednesday and right Monday meeting on a Wednesday and right Monday meeting on a Wednesday and we'll get through our things and I'm we'll get through our things and I'm we'll get through our things and I'm like and then this happened and then can like and then this happened and then can like and then this happened and then can you believe it and everyone's like yeah you believe it and everyone's like yeah you believe it and everyone's like yeah that does sound hard anyway we'll solve that does sound hard anyway we'll solve that does sound hard anyway we'll solve it now so that's a fun Dynamic um but it now so that's a fun Dynamic um but it now so that's a fun Dynamic um but you know less glibly um one of the you know less glibly um one of the you know less glibly um one of the things that I said to my mom right things that I said to my mom right things that I said to my mom right before she passed which was you know I'm before she passed which was you know I'm before she passed which was you know I'm mid 20s mid to late 20s I was like Mom mid 20s mid to late 20s I was like Mom mid 20s mid to late 20s I was like Mom this is awful this is awful this is awful I'm going to miss you wish this wasn't I'm going to miss you wish this wasn't I'm going to miss you wish this wasn't happening but I feel like you have happening but I feel like you have happening but I feel like you have prepared me for what I need to do like prepared me for what I need to do like prepared me for what I need to do like I'm ready to take the mantle and the I'm ready to take the mantle and the I'm ready to take the mantle and the mantle that she had was like she was mantle that she had was like she was mantle that she had was like she was always the uh emotional heartbeat of the always the uh emotional heartbeat of the always the uh emotional heartbeat of the family and like the spiritual heartbeat family and like the spiritual heartbeat family and like the spiritual heartbeat of the family so I was like I'm ready to of the family so I was like I'm ready to of the family so I was like I'm ready to carry that mantle for my own family and

carry that mantle for my own family and carry that mantle for my own family and so she prepared me and I I feel like so she prepared me and I I feel like so she prepared me and I I feel like when any I'm like in a problem where I when any I'm like in a problem where I when any I'm like in a problem where I don't know how to fix it like I can lean don't know how to fix it like I can lean don't know how to fix it like I can lean on all the wisdom that she like imparted on all the wisdom that she like imparted on all the wisdom that she like imparted to me but then there's also just the to me but then there's also just the to me but then there's also just the faith aspect right like a huge part of faith aspect right like a huge part of faith aspect right like a huge part of what she imparted to me was my faith and what she imparted to me was my faith and what she imparted to me was my faith and so I have Jesus to talk to I have God to so I have Jesus to talk to I have God to so I have Jesus to talk to I have God to talk to like I I don't have nobody to talk to like I I don't have nobody to talk to like I I don't have nobody to call so I've never felt call so I've never felt call so I've never felt that the hardest part for me is the that the hardest part for me is the that the hardest part for me is the weight of people counting on you and weight of people counting on you and weight of people counting on you and like just knowing the stakes as the like just knowing the stakes as the like just knowing the stakes as the company gets bigger and we reach more company gets bigger and we reach more company gets bigger and we reach more people or even just like the weight of people or even just like the weight of people or even just like the weight of knowing how many people you're knowing how many people you're knowing how many people you're influencing like this isn't like the per influencing like this isn't like the per influencing like this isn't like the per perfect metric for it but it is one of perfect metric for it but it is one of perfect metric for it but it is one of the ways that comes through clearly like the ways that comes through clearly like the ways that comes through clearly like I'll publish something and then a pastor I'll publish something and then a pastor I'll publish something and then a pastor who has like a really big church who's who has like a really big church who's who has like a really big church who's older than me that I've like looked up older than me that I've like looked up older than me that I've like looked up to since my teens will like like the to since my teens will like like the to since my teens will like like the post and comment and I'll be like every post and comment and I'll be like every post and comment and I'll be like every time it happens it's a bit strange cuz time it happens it's a bit strange cuz time it happens it's a bit strange cuz she like you saw that like oh right like she like you saw that like oh right like she like you saw that like oh right like there's 15,000 people on this account there's 15,000 people on this account there's 15,000 people on this account there's 145,000 subscribers on this there's 145,000 subscribers on this there's 145,000 subscribers on this account like there there's a lot of account like there there's a lot of account like there there's a lot of people people those numbers don't really people people those numbers don't really people people those numbers don't really mean anything because you just see 105k mean anything because you just see 105k mean anything because you just see 105k last week it was 104k sweet that's last week it was 104k sweet that's last week it was 104k sweet that's upward great it's hard to contextualize upward great it's hard to contextualize upward great it's hard to contextualize what it actually means and so like that what it actually means and so like that what it actually means and so like that weight can be challenging sometimes um weight can be challenging sometimes um weight can be challenging sometimes um the other part is resisting savior the other part is resisting savior the other part is resisting savior complex specifically in the sense of I complex specifically in the sense of I complex specifically in the sense of I have the ability a lot of the times to have the ability a lot of the times to have the ability a lot of the times to like solve people's problems you can

like solve people's problems you can like solve people's problems you can throw uh money at something you can be throw uh money at something you can be throw uh money at something you can be really gracious with someone you can really gracious with someone you can really gracious with someone you can afford them you know extra time to do afford them you know extra time to do afford them you know extra time to do this or that um and then same personally this or that um and then same personally this or that um and then same personally right like oh money will make this right like oh money will make this right like oh money will make this problem go away or I have a lot of free problem go away or I have a lot of free problem go away or I have a lot of free time free time will make this go away time free time will make this go away time free time will make this go away and what happens is the more this has and what happens is the more this has and what happens is the more this has been happening since I was like 21 so been happening since I was like 21 so been happening since I was like 21 so the more that you're able to do this the the more that you're able to do this the the more that you're able to do this the more you're just you become the source more you're just you become the source more you're just you become the source of the problem of of like the solution of the problem of of like the solution of the problem of of like the solution not God right like I am at the center of not God right like I am at the center of not God right like I am at the center of this and so the challenge is reminding this and so the challenge is reminding this and so the challenge is reminding yourself like okay I am the steward he yourself like okay I am the steward he yourself like okay I am the steward he Lord of the Rings I am the steward of Lord of the Rings I am the steward of Lord of the Rings I am the steward of Gondor and I don't want to become a bad Gondor and I don't want to become a bad Gondor and I don't want to become a bad Steward that sends his son faramir off Steward that sends his son faramir off Steward that sends his son faramir off to be killed and then gets lit on fire to be killed and then gets lit on fire to be killed and then gets lit on fire and jumps off the top of the building and jumps off the top of the building and jumps off the top of the building you remember that part I do I am not you remember that part I do I am not you remember that part I do I am not Aragorn I am not the king who will one Aragorn I am not the king who will one Aragorn I am not the king who will one day return that's not me I am Steward day return that's not me I am Steward day return that's not me I am Steward keeping this place hopefully keeping this place hopefully keeping this place hopefully running because I'm not the ultimate running because I'm not the ultimate running because I'm not the ultimate Authority but in the daytoday you become Authority but in the daytoday you become Authority but in the daytoday you become the person that solves the problems you the person that solves the problems you the person that solves the problems you have the ability to like decide yes or have the ability to like decide yes or have the ability to like decide yes or no and and someone's X Y or Z then is no and and someone's X Y or Z then is no and and someone's X Y or Z then is affected by that and what happens is affected by that and what happens is affected by that and what happens is anytime someone feels like anytime I've anytime someone feels like anytime I've anytime someone feels like anytime I've seen someone in discomfort anytime I'm seen someone in discomfort anytime I'm seen someone in discomfort anytime I'm like I can fix that and you just start like I can fix that and you just start like I can fix that and you just start to wanting to like do that all the time to wanting to like do that all the time to wanting to like do that all the time because you're like well I could fix it because you're like well I could fix it because you're like well I could fix it maybe someone else can't but I could do maybe someone else can't but I could do maybe someone else can't but I could do I not have the responsibility to do it I not have the responsibility to do it I not have the responsibility to do it so it's like this Noble motivation that so it's like this Noble motivation that so it's like this Noble motivation that then can be twisted if you put yourself then can be twisted if you put yourself then can be twisted if you put yourself in the place where Jesus

in the place where Jesus in the place where Jesus belongs so so how do you how do you belongs so so how do you how do you belongs so so how do you how do you navigate that those those pressures uh navigate that those those pressures uh navigate that those those pressures uh specifically the resisting the Savior specifically the resisting the Savior specifically the resisting the Savior complex like what is your how are you complex like what is your how are you complex like what is your how are you stewarding that what is your effort to stewarding that what is your effort to stewarding that what is your effort to Steward that will allow me to introduce Steward that will allow me to introduce Steward that will allow me to introduce you to a you to a you to a policy but seriously the values that we policy but seriously the values that we policy but seriously the values that we talked about on that other episode those talked about on that other episode those talked about on that other episode those values exist as like an anchor for my values exist as like an anchor for my values exist as like an anchor for my soul and an anchor for my behavior soul and an anchor for my behavior soul and an anchor for my behavior because otherwise you'll just end up because otherwise you'll just end up because otherwise you'll just end up justifying whatever you're doing and justifying whatever you're doing and justifying whatever you're doing and saying well look here's why that's saying well look here's why that's saying well look here's why that's actually okay and every time a different actually okay and every time a different actually okay and every time a different problem comes up you could justify it problem comes up you could justify it problem comes up you could justify it for a different reason like believe me I for a different reason like believe me I for a different reason like believe me I can convince myself just as much as I can convince myself just as much as I can convince myself just as much as I can convince you that a social strategy can convince you that a social strategy can convince you that a social strategy is going to be effective and so I can is going to be effective and so I can is going to be effective and so I can make justifications to myself to my wife make justifications to myself to my wife make justifications to myself to my wife to my to my kids to my employees to my to my to my kids to my employees to my to my to my kids to my employees to my God and say like hey well then actually God and say like hey well then actually God and say like hey well then actually you see what I did there that's why it's you see what I did there that's why it's you see what I did there that's why it's a good thing all the while there's this a good thing all the while there's this a good thing all the while there's this moving Target and so the values again moving Target and so the values again moving Target and so the values again provide this immovable object to which provide this immovable object to which provide this immovable object to which you have you have you have to evaluate your behavior choices and to evaluate your behavior choices and to evaluate your behavior choices and attitude by and if you're not living up attitude by and if you're not living up attitude by and if you're not living up to that then the sober response is to to that then the sober response is to to that then the sober response is to say okay I need to say okay I need to say okay I need to change sometimes the values need to change sometimes the values need to change sometimes the values need to change they're not perfect either right change they're not perfect either right change they're not perfect either right like they're not scripture and so that's like they're not scripture and so that's like they're not scripture and so that's why we also have you know the ancient why we also have you know the ancient why we also have you know the ancient wisdom of the Bible that is unchanging wisdom of the Bible that is unchanging wisdom of the Bible that is unchanging and Timeless and we can go to and that's and Timeless and we can go to and that's and Timeless and we can go to and that's why every single value is rooted in why every single value is rooted in why every single value is rooted in scripture um but you know I could scripture um but you know I could scripture um but you know I could probably fudge that too if I wanted to probably fudge that too if I wanted to probably fudge that too if I wanted to right famously interpretations of right famously interpretations of right famously interpretations of scriptures vary yes I can imagine it's scriptures vary yes I can imagine it's scriptures vary yes I can imagine it's tough like as an tough like as an tough like as an entrepreneur um in the role of CEO owner

entrepreneur um in the role of CEO owner entrepreneur um in the role of CEO owner operator is that problem solvings having operator is that problem solvings having operator is that problem solvings having being being the the final voice uh the being being the the final voice uh the being being the the final voice uh the the arbitrator of yes and no that's the arbitrator of yes and no that's the arbitrator of yes and no that's actually kind of baked into the role a actually kind of baked into the role a actually kind of baked into the role a little bit like the Buck has to stop little bit like the Buck has to stop little bit like the Buck has to stop with someone um and so you've actually with someone um and so you've actually with someone um and so you've actually done a good job just recently we made a done a good job just recently we made a done a good job just recently we made a revision to our our values and and you revision to our our values and and you revision to our our values and and you made like a charge to to us as a team to made like a charge to to us as a team to made like a charge to to us as a team to like to grow in our problem solving like to grow in our problem solving like to grow in our problem solving skills and I think that alleviates some skills and I think that alleviates some skills and I think that alleviates some of the burden from you it it encourages of the burden from you it it encourages of the burden from you it it encourages us it char es us to bring a solution to us it char es us to bring a solution to us it char es us to bring a solution to the table when there is a problem first the table when there is a problem first the table when there is a problem first as opposed to just looking to the boss as opposed to just looking to the boss as opposed to just looking to the boss man or the savior in this in the in the man or the savior in this in the in the man or the savior in this in the in the context of what we're talking about here context of what we're talking about here context of what we're talking about here to solve the problem because it's his to solve the problem because it's his to solve the problem because it's his job um so so like you said values are job um so so like you said values are job um so so like you said values are it's a living document and so making it's a living document and so making it's a living document and so making some changes there uh I think has been some changes there uh I think has been some changes there uh I think has been good good for you and good for us too so good good for you and good for us too so good good for you and good for us too so yeah the nice thing about the Savior yeah the nice thing about the Savior yeah the nice thing about the Savior complex side of things is like we have complex side of things is like we have complex side of things is like we have like really great friends and support like really great friends and support like really great friends and support group around us nobody that is like we group around us nobody that is like we group around us nobody that is like we we didn't we don't live in a metro area we didn't we don't live in a metro area we didn't we don't live in a metro area and we didn't like fall in with like the and we didn't like fall in with like the and we didn't like fall in with like the rich crowd right and then suddenly now rich crowd right and then suddenly now rich crowd right and then suddenly now it's like you're around people who all it's like you're around people who all it's like you're around people who all they care about is is appearance and all they care about is is appearance and all they care about is is appearance and all they care about is um success and like they care about is um success and like they care about is um success and like flaunting that and letting everyone know flaunting that and letting everyone know flaunting that and letting everyone know like how like like we we've just been like how like like we we've just been like how like like we we've just been friends with the same people for like 15 friends with the same people for like 15 friends with the same people for like 15 years and like a bunch of them moved years and like a bunch of them moved years and like a bunch of them moved here when I was broke and said yeah we here when I was broke and said yeah we here when I was broke and said yeah we trust you to do this my wife chose me

trust you to do this my wife chose me trust you to do this my wife chose me when I was uh pimpley when I was uh pimpley when I was uh pimpley 18-year-old and like she had to work two 18-year-old and like she had to work two 18-year-old and like she had to work two jobs cuz I couldn't even give her like a jobs cuz I couldn't even give her like a jobs cuz I couldn't even give her like a dollar in the budget she was the budget dollar in the budget she was the budget dollar in the budget she was the budget so when you come from like those humble so when you come from like those humble so when you come from like those humble beginnings like everyone still remembers beginnings like everyone still remembers beginnings like everyone still remembers who that's still just that's still just who that's still just that's still just who that's still just that's still just Cole before I was the old Facebook Cole before I was the old Facebook Cole before I was the old Facebook pictures they pop up in slack every once pictures they pop up in slack every once pictures they pop up in slack every once in a while just to keep everyone in a while just to keep everyone in a while just to keep everyone everyone's sober minded and yeah and everyone's sober minded and yeah and everyone's sober minded and yeah and humble so that that helps like you're humble so that that helps like you're humble so that that helps like you're just with the people just with the people just with the people who you are and theyve seen at your wor who you are and theyve seen at your wor who you are and theyve seen at your wor and they seen at your they challenge you and they seen at your they challenge you and they seen at your they challenge you to be your and they that but they also to be your and they that but they also to be your and they that but they also like are aware of like your humanity and like are aware of like your humanity and like are aware of like your humanity and that's why we all kind of lean on on God that's why we all kind of lean on on God that's why we all kind of lean on on God yeah that's good okay moving on next I yeah that's good okay moving on next I yeah that's good okay moving on next I have a volunteer leading a social team have a volunteer leading a social team have a volunteer leading a social team for our youth account and it's in for our youth account and it's in for our youth account and it's in capital letters here blowing up do we capital letters here blowing up do we capital letters here blowing up do we just sit in gratitude for this reach or just sit in gratitude for this reach or just sit in gratitude for this reach or how do we transition uh to discipline how do we transition uh to discipline how do we transition uh to discipline gen Z through Instagram oh that's gen Z through Instagram oh that's gen Z through Instagram oh that's disciple gen Z is what they meant to say disciple gen Z is what they meant to say disciple gen Z is what they meant to say ah yes how transition wondering what do ah yes how transition wondering what do ah yes how transition wondering what do you want to do to Jen Z how do we you want to do to Jen Z how do we you want to do to Jen Z how do we transition to disciple jenz through transition to disciple jenz through transition to disciple jenz through Instagram do we collab the youth reals Instagram do we collab the youth reals Instagram do we collab the youth reals with our main church we are leaning that with our main church we are leaning that with our main church we are leaning that way we're sitting about 9,000 followers way we're sitting about 9,000 followers way we're sitting about 9,000 followers on the main Church account and our on the main Church account and our on the main Church account and our average inperson attendance is about 750 average inperson attendance is about 750 average inperson attendance is about 750 so I checked the youth account it's got so I checked the youth account it's got so I checked the youth account it's got 38,000 followers so yeah it's capital 38,000 followers so yeah it's capital 38,000 followers so yeah it's capital letters blowing up and it was and is a letters blowing up and it was and is a letters blowing up and it was and is a perfect example of student Le social perfect example of student Le social perfect example of student Le social media you can find it we are amplify media you can find it we are amplify media you can find it we are amplify youth it really remind me of there are a

youth it really remind me of there are a youth it really remind me of there are a bunch of Youth accounts that are doing bunch of Youth accounts that are doing bunch of Youth accounts that are doing great work similar to this where it's great work similar to this where it's great work similar to this where it's you can tell student-led social media you can tell student-led social media you can tell student-led social media which is why it's doing well yeah um it which is why it's doing well yeah um it which is why it's doing well yeah um it reminded me of when I was in Youth reminded me of when I was in Youth reminded me of when I was in Youth making videos you know this is making videos you know this is making videos you know this is pre-social Media but like we had a pre-social Media but like we had a pre-social Media but like we had a camcorder and we would do video camcorder and we would do video camcorder and we would do video announcements for Youth and it'd be like announcements for Youth and it'd be like announcements for Youth and it'd be like you know come to youth this Friday we're you know come to youth this Friday we're you know come to youth this Friday we're going to have laser tag and now I'm going to have laser tag and now I'm going to have laser tag and now I'm going to jump over this bush and like going to jump over this bush and like going to jump over this bush and like you know you get you get caught you know you know you get you get caught you know you know you get you get caught you know no you not going to jump over that but no you not going to jump over that but no you not going to jump over that but you tried it was too tall and now you're you tried it was too tall and now you're you tried it was too tall and now you're like ah yeah then they zoom in like like like ah yeah then they zoom in like like like ah yeah then they zoom in like like just having fun and and people love just having fun and and people love just having fun and and people love those because it's like youth doing those because it's like youth doing those because it's like youth doing things and so your peers are doing things and so your peers are doing things and so your peers are doing things and you're like ah this is all things and you're like ah this is all things and you're like ah this is all this is all fun so uh collabs are tricky this is all fun so uh collabs are tricky this is all fun so uh collabs are tricky but I do think they're worth but I do think they're worth but I do think they're worth experimentation sometimes we see experimentation sometimes we see experimentation sometimes we see churches dabble in them and reach churches dabble in them and reach churches dabble in them and reach declines other times we see it's you declines other times we see it's you declines other times we see it's you know uh raising tide sort of thing lifts know uh raising tide sort of thing lifts know uh raising tide sort of thing lifts both uh accounts so worth experimenting both uh accounts so worth experimenting both uh accounts so worth experimenting with I'd probably put a 90day with I'd probably put a 90day with I'd probably put a 90day bracket on the experimentation um bracket on the experimentation um bracket on the experimentation um because what we do know like in a because what we do know like in a because what we do know like in a Ministry sense is that vibrant youth Ministry sense is that vibrant youth Ministry sense is that vibrant youth groups are one of like the catalysts for groups are one of like the catalysts for groups are one of like the catalysts for a growing Church um if you want to know a growing Church um if you want to know a growing Church um if you want to know more about this checking out the the more about this checking out the the more about this checking out the the growing young book and the podcast that growing young book and the podcast that growing young book and the podcast that we did with Cara Powell at the end of we did with Cara Powell at the end of we did with Cara Powell at the end of last year oh was so good and she said it last year oh was so good and she said it last year oh was so good and she said it she said by all their metrics growing she said by all their metrics growing she said by all their metrics growing churches are the ones that churches are the ones that churches are the ones that disproportionately prioritize young disproportionately prioritize young disproportionately prioritize young people in their church and what we know people in their church and what we know people in their church and what we know is when you have that like vibrant young is when you have that like vibrant young is when you have that like vibrant young energy in the church older Generations

energy in the church older Generations energy in the church older Generations like they really Thrive off that because like they really Thrive off that because like they really Thrive off that because it's not just this country club for this it's not just this country club for this it's not just this country club for this like aging congregation but there's this like aging congregation but there's this like aging congregation but there's this multi-generational element to Ministry multi-generational element to Ministry multi-generational element to Ministry which is what it's meant to be at its which is what it's meant to be at its which is what it's meant to be at its best and you can see it when you look best and you can see it when you look best and you can see it when you look around in the sanctuary so might that we around in the sanctuary so might that we around in the sanctuary so might that we talk about congruency between iners talk about congruency between iners talk about congruency between iners online and online might that phenomenon online and online might that phenomenon online and online might that phenomenon also translate to online I I think also translate to online I I think also translate to online I I think that's definitely a hypothesis that's that's definitely a hypothesis that's that's definitely a hypothesis that's worth exploring so I would put a 90-day worth exploring so I would put a 90-day worth exploring so I would put a 90-day bracket kind of on the experiment do the bracket kind of on the experiment do the bracket kind of on the experiment do the collaborations and see what happens when collaborations and see what happens when collaborations and see what happens when this youth content crosses over to the this youth content crosses over to the this youth content crosses over to the church content um you know my church church content um you know my church church content um you know my church growing up we were about 300 so this growing up we were about 300 so this growing up we were about 300 so this church of 750 is a bit bigger but we had church of 750 is a bit bigger but we had church of 750 is a bit bigger but we had this really vibrant youth group of like this really vibrant youth group of like this really vibrant youth group of like 50 to 60 people which was like 50 to 60 people which was like 50 to 60 people which was like disproportionately larger than what disproportionately larger than what disproportionately larger than what you'd expect for a church of our size you'd expect for a church of our size you'd expect for a church of our size and I remember like how much Vitality and I remember like how much Vitality and I remember like how much Vitality that brought to the church I didn't that brought to the church I didn't that brought to the church I didn't really think of it at that time because really think of it at that time because really think of it at that time because I was just in youth group but like in I was just in youth group but like in I was just in youth group but like in retrospect you're like oh wow that was retrospect you're like oh wow that was retrospect you're like oh wow that was something that was really special so can something that was really special so can something that was really special so can we replicate that online I think it's a we replicate that online I think it's a we replicate that online I think it's a worthwhile hypothesis I'd explore it if worthwhile hypothesis I'd explore it if worthwhile hypothesis I'd explore it if after 90 days you're like yeah you know after 90 days you're like yeah you know after 90 days you're like yeah you know we tried it we gave it a ton of we tried it we gave it a ton of we tried it we gave it a ton of opportunities and and didn't really see opportunities and and didn't really see opportunities and and didn't really see much um then you know you quit it if much um then you know you quit it if much um then you know you quit it if after the 90 days you're like look at after the 90 days you're like look at after the 90 days you're like look at what we've learned take those lessons what we've learned take those lessons what we've learned take those lessons and apply them going forward yeah and if and apply them going forward yeah and if and apply them going forward yeah and if it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't work to the question uh for disciplining work to the question uh for disciplining work to the question uh for disciplining gen Z playing gen Z you have this gen Z playing gen Z you have this gen Z playing gen Z you have this account with 38,000 followers presumably account with 38,000 followers presumably account with 38,000 followers presumably more by then at the end of 90 days so more by then at the end of 90 days so more by then at the end of 90 days so you have an established account with a

you have an established account with a you have an established account with a large audience now you have an large audience now you have an large audience now you have an opportunity to to create a social opportunity to to create a social opportunity to to create a social strategy to disciple gen Z online strategy to disciple gen Z online strategy to disciple gen Z online through this page so it's a win-win and through this page so it's a win-win and through this page so it's a win-win and if you want to discipline them you know if you want to discipline them you know if you want to discipline them you know go for it just keep us out of it it's go for it just keep us out of it it's go for it just keep us out of it it's true every time you try to type disciple true every time you try to type disciple true every time you try to type disciple Siri's like never heard of it next Siri's like never heard of it next Siri's like never heard of it next question what would you say to question what would you say to question what would you say to Christians who lack critical thinking Christians who lack critical thinking Christians who lack critical thinking and cloak it in spiritual language yeah and cloak it in spiritual language yeah and cloak it in spiritual language yeah I think this question was asked with a I think this question was asked with a I think this question was asked with a bit of snark behind bit of snark behind bit of snark behind it so uh you know weaponizing scripture it so uh you know weaponizing scripture it so uh you know weaponizing scripture to control and manipulate others is to control and manipulate others is to control and manipulate others is probably one of my least favorite things probably one of my least favorite things probably one of my least favorite things um on Earth um because it uses something um on Earth um because it uses something um on Earth um because it uses something that's so pure and beautiful in a really that's so pure and beautiful in a really that's so pure and beautiful in a really ugly way which is probably like the ugly way which is probably like the ugly way which is probably like the worst part of it right um this stuff worst part of it right um this stuff worst part of it right um this stuff gets really tricky so I'm just going to gets really tricky so I'm just going to gets really tricky so I'm just going to tell you how I tried to do it I'm not tell you how I tried to do it I'm not tell you how I tried to do it I'm not telling you you need to do it like me telling you you need to do it like me telling you you need to do it like me this is how I've done it this is how I've done it this is how I've done it ver some background I grew up in a ver some background I grew up in a ver some background I grew up in a Baptist Church really small Canadian Baptist Church really small Canadian Baptist Church really small Canadian Baptist Church eight people no Baptist Church eight people no Baptist Church eight people no microphones we did worship with an microphones we did worship with an microphones we did worship with an acoustic guitar Pastor spoke from the acoustic guitar Pastor spoke from the acoustic guitar Pastor spoke from the pulpit just his voice in high school I pulpit just his voice in high school I pulpit just his voice in high school I started going to a Pentecostal youth started going to a Pentecostal youth started going to a Pentecostal youth group and that's like the first time group and that's like the first time group and that's like the first time like I fall in love with church I find like I fall in love with church I find like I fall in love with church I find people that accept me for who I am I people that accept me for who I am I people that accept me for who I am I commit my life to Jesus in a real way I commit my life to Jesus in a real way I commit my life to Jesus in a real way I was a Christian before that but like I was a Christian before that but like I was a Christian before that but like I didn't really know too much about what didn't really know too much about what didn't really know too much about what that meant for my like adulthood oh okay that meant for my like adulthood oh okay that meant for my like adulthood oh okay it was clear that ched the trajectory of it was clear that ched the trajectory of it was clear that ched the trajectory of my life at the same time I go from a my life at the same time I go from a my life at the same time I go from a denomination that says women cannot be denomination that says women cannot be denomination that says women cannot be pastors to a church that like had pastors to a church that like had pastors to a church that like had Pastors in the denomination I don't

Pastors in the denomination I don't Pastors in the denomination I don't really think of it much as a kid but really think of it much as a kid but really think of it much as a kid but like two churches that held very like two churches that held very like two churches that held very differently MH then I get to Bible differently MH then I get to Bible differently MH then I get to Bible College in my denomination and one of College in my denomination and one of College in my denomination and one of the distinctives that all denominations the distinctives that all denominations the distinctives that all denominations have in ours was if you don't speak in have in ours was if you don't speak in have in ours was if you don't speak in tongues you cannot be ordained and I was tongues you cannot be ordained and I was tongues you cannot be ordained and I was like that's strange anyone else find like that's strange anyone else find like that's strange anyone else find this strange anyone else people like this strange anyone else people like this strange anyone else people like it's kind of strange like okay okay and it's kind of strange like okay okay and it's kind of strange like okay okay and the more that I spent time in the church the more that I spent time in the church the more that I spent time in the church world first pursuing the world first pursuing the world first pursuing the pastor I can speak in tongues by the way pastor I can speak in tongues by the way pastor I can speak in tongues by the way so that was not the so that was not the so that was not the reason reason is you wouldn't stop reason reason is you wouldn't stop reason reason is you wouldn't stop drinking right right right and you also drinking right right right and you also drinking right right right and you also can't have any wait wait what anyone can't have any wait wait what anyone can't have any wait wait what anyone else find this weird Okay I I I will else find this weird Okay I I I will else find this weird Okay I I I will never name the name of this professor never name the name of this professor never name the name of this professor they are safe with me but I will never they are safe with me but I will never they are safe with me but I will never forget the one time and I went to many forget the one time and I went to many forget the one time and I went to many professor's houses one time I went to professor's houses one time I went to professor's houses one time I went to Professor's house and he opens the cab Professor's house and he opens the cab Professor's house and he opens the cab like he's like what a glass of wine I like he's like what a glass of wine I like he's like what a glass of wine I was like what he's like listen man I was was like what he's like listen man I was was like what he's like listen man I was like I knew it and so it and so [Music] um these distinctives get elevated to um these distinctives get elevated to the place of like major status right the place of like major status right the place of like major status right there's a saying we don't want to Major there's a saying we don't want to Major there's a saying we don't want to Major on the minors but what some people will on the minors but what some people will on the minors but what some people will say is I'm not majoring on the minors say is I'm not majoring on the minors say is I'm not majoring on the minors because my interpretation of scripture because my interpretation of scripture because my interpretation of scripture leads me to believe this and if you're leads me to believe this and if you're leads me to believe this and if you're saying that the proper interpretation saying that the proper interpretation saying that the proper interpretation and application of scripture is a minor and application of scripture is a minor and application of scripture is a minor then you and I will never agree like

then you and I will never agree like then you and I will never agree like okay I understand like the the the the okay I understand like the the the the okay I understand like the the the the sentiment behind that but if we look at sentiment behind that but if we look at sentiment behind that but if we look at all of Christian history we can see all of Christian history we can see all of Christian history we can see people much smarter than you and I that people much smarter than you and I that people much smarter than you and I that have done all the work have still come have done all the work have still come have done all the work have still come on the opposite sides of the camps and on the opposite sides of the camps and on the opposite sides of the camps and this happened recently on a post of ours this happened recently on a post of ours this happened recently on a post of ours that I expected to be a bit innocuous oh that I expected to be a bit innocuous oh that I expected to be a bit innocuous oh jeez I was like hey here's a church jeez I was like hey here's a church jeez I was like hey here's a church that's reaching gen that's reaching gen that's reaching gen Z and they meet in this non-traditional Z and they meet in this non-traditional Z and they meet in this non-traditional space and they have a female lead pastor space and they have a female lead pastor space and they have a female lead pastor and they have an emphasis on community and they have an emphasis on community and they have an emphasis on community and working with Partnerships in the and working with Partnerships in the and working with Partnerships in the organization and they don't have like a organization and they don't have like a organization and they don't have like a ton of heavy programming so they're ton of heavy programming so they're ton of heavy programming so they're doing a bunch of different things and doing a bunch of different things and doing a bunch of different things and they're like you know majority gen Z and they're like you know majority gen Z and they're like you know majority gen Z and people were like this is not a church people were like this is not a church people were like this is not a church and I was like in good faith why because and I was like in good faith why because and I was like in good faith why because I was like I feel like there are a I was like I feel like there are a I was like I feel like there are a couple of reasons here you could say one couple of reasons here you could say one couple of reasons here you could say one well their programming doesn't look like well their programming doesn't look like well their programming doesn't look like every other church so like maybe they're every other church so like maybe they're every other church so like maybe they're going to say you're not doing communion going to say you're not doing communion going to say you're not doing communion which this church is but like you know which this church is but like you know which this church is but like you know make a claim that the programming make a claim that the programming make a claim that the programming doesn't align with actual Church they doesn't align with actual Church they doesn't align with actual Church they could say you know you can't have a could say you know you can't have a could say you know you can't have a church that's this many like young church that's this many like young church that's this many like young people like if a church is just that people like if a church is just that people like if a church is just that single generation it's not really a single generation it's not really a single generation it's not really a church and a couple people said that a church and a couple people said that a church and a couple people said that a bunch and I was like okay but like can bunch and I was like okay but like can bunch and I was like okay but like can we keep that same energy for the 100 or we keep that same energy for the 100 or we keep that same energy for the 100 or a thousand times more congregations that a thousand times more congregations that a thousand times more congregations that are just like only seniors because are just like only seniors because are just like only seniors because that's the problem the problem is not oh that's the problem the problem is not oh that's the problem the problem is not oh my goodness there's too many churches my goodness there's too many churches my goodness there's too many churches with only young people it's not a with only young people it's not a with only young people it's not a problem uh Third Woman lead Pastor problem uh Third Woman lead Pastor problem uh Third Woman lead Pastor fourth fourth fourth um there's another thing I can't um there's another thing I can't um there's another thing I can't remember anyway I've never seen the remember anyway I've never seen the remember anyway I've never seen the response to this but people were losing response to this but people were losing response to this but people were losing their minds over a woman Pastor it was

their minds over a woman Pastor it was their minds over a woman Pastor it was not a good comment section to be in and not a good comment section to be in and not a good comment section to be in and and they weren't just saying like oh I and they weren't just saying like oh I and they weren't just saying like oh I disagree with that they're like that is disagree with that they're like that is disagree with that they're like that is not a church stop calling it a church not a church stop calling it a church not a church stop calling it a church it's unbiblical you can call whatever it's unbiblical you can call whatever it's unbiblical you can call whatever you want oh I play basketball with my you want oh I play basketball with my you want oh I play basketball with my friends it's a church if the female is a friends it's a church if the female is a friends it's a church if the female is a pastor and they are the lead it is not a pastor and they are the lead it is not a pastor and they are the lead it is not a church I was like I should probably church I was like I should probably church I was like I should probably learn my lesson but like I did not learn my lesson but like I did not learn my lesson but like I did not expect that I did not anticipate that I expect that I did not anticipate that I expect that I did not anticipate that I didn't see it coming and so this is how didn't see it coming and so this is how didn't see it coming and so this is how I do things okay like I like the I do things okay like I like the I do things okay like I like the Apostles Creed I memorized it when I was Apostles Creed I memorized it when I was Apostles Creed I memorized it when I was a kid you want to substitute the Nan a kid you want to substitute the Nan a kid you want to substitute the Nan Creed I think Alex would probably better Creed I think Alex would probably better Creed I think Alex would probably better I memorized the apostles when I was a I memorized the apostles when I was a I memorized the apostles when I was a kid and I memorized it in the Baptist kid and I memorized it in the Baptist kid and I memorized it in the Baptist Church and I spoke in tongues in the Church and I spoke in tongues in the Church and I spoke in tongues in the Pentecostal Church amazing and I chose Pentecostal Church amazing and I chose Pentecostal Church amazing and I chose not to pursue the pastorate not because not to pursue the pastorate not because not to pursue the pastorate not because of speaking in tongues but because I did of speaking in tongues but because I did of speaking in tongues but because I did not have the relational bandwidth and I not have the relational bandwidth and I not have the relational bandwidth and I still wanted to work with churches and still wanted to work with churches and still wanted to work with churches and here we are today I actually prefer the here we are today I actually prefer the here we are today I actually prefer the Apostles Creed really yeah I I the line Apostles Creed really yeah I I the line Apostles Creed really yeah I I the line that gets me is is the confession that that gets me is is the confession that that gets me is is the confession that that uh Jesus descended into hell yes um that uh Jesus descended into hell yes um that uh Jesus descended into hell yes um that gets omitted in a lot of like that gets omitted in a lot of like that gets omitted in a lot of like either omitted in other Christian either omitted in other Christian either omitted in other Christian confessions and Creeds or just like confessions and Creeds or just like confessions and Creeds or just like blown over in the Apostles Creed and blown over in the Apostles Creed and blown over in the Apostles Creed and like on Easter Sunday we recited the APO like on Easter Sunday we recited the APO like on Easter Sunday we recited the APO we recited the Apostles Creed at church we recited the Apostles Creed at church we recited the Apostles Creed at church and I I just wanted to like did you guys and I I just wanted to like did you guys and I I just wanted to like did you guys do you guys see what you just read that do you guys see what you just read that do you guys see what you just read that we believe he he descended into hell we believe he he descended into hell we believe he he descended into hell like that what he was up to on Saturday like that what he was up to on Saturday like that what he was up to on Saturday really means something anyway so I really means something anyway so I really means something anyway so I prefer the Apostles Creed I also profess prefer the Apostles Creed I also profess prefer the Apostles Creed I also profess the universal Catholic the universal Catholic the universal Catholic Church the first time we recited the Church the first time we recited the Church the first time we recited the apostles creative Church uh we got a apostles creative Church uh we got a apostles creative Church uh we got a real Stern talking to from an older real Stern talking to from an older real Stern talking to from an older woman in our church who said I just I I woman in our church who said I just I I woman in our church who said I just I I have some concerns um we said something have some concerns um we said something have some concerns um we said something about the Catholic church on Sunday and

about the Catholic church on Sunday and about the Catholic church on Sunday and I'd like to I'd like to know more about I'd like to I'd like to know more about I'd like to I'd like to know more about what you believe about the Catholic what you believe about the Catholic what you believe about the Catholic church that's I was happy to have that church that's I was happy to have that church that's I was happy to have that great posture to have this was great posture to have this was great posture to have this was interesting can you tell me more so my interesting can you tell me more so my interesting can you tell me more so my Approach is always like look I believe Approach is always like look I believe Approach is always like look I believe in the Apostles Creed I think that makes in the Apostles Creed I think that makes in the Apostles Creed I think that makes me a Christian historically right um do me a Christian historically right um do me a Christian historically right um do you cool no I don't care but if I'm you cool no I don't care but if I'm you cool no I don't care but if I'm going to a church on if I can believe if going to a church on if I can believe if going to a church on if I can believe if I'm going to highlight a church and I I'm going to highlight a church and I I'm going to highlight a church and I believe that then like I'm going to believe that then like I'm going to believe that then like I'm going to highlight them because guess what every highlight them because guess what every highlight them because guess what every single church that we highlight has a single church that we highlight has a single church that we highlight has a problem with their theology what is it problem with their theology what is it problem with their theology what is it that's the thing we probably don't know that's the thing we probably don't know that's the thing we probably don't know to the comment section to decide because to the comment section to decide because to the comment section to decide because every church is someone else's heretic every church is someone else's heretic every church is someone else's heretic and every believer is someone else's and every believer is someone else's and every believer is someone else's heretic and and I get that like that heretic and and I get that like that heretic and and I get that like that statement on its own is not perfect it's statement on its own is not perfect it's statement on its own is not perfect it's problematic because you could say right problematic because you could say right problematic because you could say right so we're just not going to try like no so we're just not going to try like no so we're just not going to try like no no no like I go after your convictions no no like I go after your convictions no no like I go after your convictions believe in them but like if we get to believe in them but like if we get to believe in them but like if we get to the to the point where we're just like the to the point where we're just like the to the point where we're just like yeah yeah but like my interpretation is yeah yeah but like my interpretation is yeah yeah but like my interpretation is right and I'm 100% confident in it on right and I'm 100% confident in it on right and I'm 100% confident in it on these minor issues personally this what these minor issues personally this what these minor issues personally this what I'm just saying this is what I do I I'm just saying this is what I do I I'm just saying this is what I do I don't know how you can square that don't know how you can square that don't know how you can square that because it has a a pretty big level of because it has a a pretty big level of because it has a a pretty big level of naivity and arrogance to say like look I naivity and arrogance to say like look I naivity and arrogance to say like look I understand that for thousands of years understand that for thousands of years understand that for thousands of years people have killed each other over how people have killed each other over how people have killed each other over how we're going to interpret this document we're going to interpret this document we're going to interpret this document but in 2024 yeah I'm in my third year but in 2024 yeah I'm in my third year but in 2024 yeah I'm in my third year now Bible College don't know if you knew now Bible College don't know if you knew now Bible College don't know if you knew that and uh I that and uh I that and uh I figed I got it I could share it with you figed I got it I could share it with you figed I got it I could share it with you yeah listen for me I yeah listen for me I yeah listen for me I I and I don't know what my perspective I and I don't know what my perspective I and I don't know what my perspective on this would be if I wasn't a pastor on this would be if I wasn't a pastor on this would be if I wasn't a pastor but because I'm pastoring people and

but because I'm pastoring people and but because I'm pastoring people and that just brings on a different that just brings on a different that just brings on a different complexion um on how I perceive people complexion um on how I perceive people complexion um on how I perceive people and how I relate to them um and how I relate to them um and how I relate to them um this inspires a bit of compassion for me this inspires a bit of compassion for me this inspires a bit of compassion for me folks who um lack critical thinking or folks who um lack critical thinking or folks who um lack critical thinking or um um um who will actually encourage people not who will actually encourage people not who will actually encourage people not to be critical thinkers and use to be critical thinkers and use to be critical thinkers and use spiritual language to kind of to kind of spiritual language to kind of to kind of spiritual language to kind of to kind of skirt around that or or fluff it up my skirt around that or or fluff it up my skirt around that or or fluff it up my first to the first question or the first to the first question or the first to the first question or the second question talking about being like second question talking about being like second question talking about being like triggered or like activated amygdalas triggered or like activated amygdalas triggered or like activated amygdalas I'm a very like uh critical thinking I'm a very like uh critical thinking I'm a very like uh critical thinking type person so when folks come to type person so when folks come to type person so when folks come to theological questions or or or Arenas theological questions or or or Arenas theological questions or or or Arenas with a lack of critical thinking I I get with a lack of critical thinking I I get with a lack of critical thinking I I get triggered right triggered right triggered right away but I'm learning learning and I'm away but I'm learning learning and I'm away but I'm learning learning and I'm growing I'm being formed my compassion growing I'm being formed my compassion growing I'm being formed my compassion kind of follows it closely from from kind of follows it closely from from kind of follows it closely from from behind because in the church we actually behind because in the church we actually behind because in the church we actually have this long history of uh have this long history of uh have this long history of uh discouraging folks from being critical discouraging folks from being critical discouraging folks from being critical thinkers and cloaking that in spiritual thinkers and cloaking that in spiritual thinkers and cloaking that in spiritual language when I was mulling over this language when I was mulling over this language when I was mulling over this question getting ready for the podcast I question getting ready for the podcast I question getting ready for the podcast I was thinking about just like how the was thinking about just like how the was thinking about just like how the scriptures have been distributed over scriptures have been distributed over scriptures have been distributed over the course of Christian history like in the course of Christian history like in the course of Christian history like in the intro of the show we talk about the intro of the show we talk about the intro of the show we talk about we're navigating the biggest we're navigating the biggest we're navigating the biggest communication shift in the last 500 communication shift in the last 500 communication shift in the last 500 years that communication shift was the years that communication shift was the years that communication shift was the invent of the printing press and that invent of the printing press and that invent of the printing press and that caused some real problems for uh some caused some real problems for uh some caused some real problems for uh some pretty large churches who didn't want pretty large churches who didn't want pretty large churches who didn't want lay people to have the scriptures in lay people to have the scriptures in lay people to have the scriptures in their own the universal Catholic Church

their own the universal Catholic Church their own the universal Catholic Church yes no that was just the Catholic Church yes no that was just the Catholic Church yes no that was just the Catholic Church capital c yeah not lowercase c um but capital c yeah not lowercase c um but capital c yeah not lowercase c um but like there were hundreds of years where like there were hundreds of years where like there were hundreds of years where people were to what you said fighting people were to what you said fighting people were to what you said fighting and killing each other over not and killing each other over not and killing each other over not translating the scriptures into translating the scriptures into translating the scriptures into vernacular languages because they were vernacular languages because they were vernacular languages because they were afraid that if people could read the afraid that if people could read the afraid that if people could read the scriptures for themselves they would scriptures for themselves they would scriptures for themselves they would have more heresies to deal with and have more heresies to deal with and have more heresies to deal with and that's a valid concern but the way the that's a valid concern but the way the that's a valid concern but the way the way that they tackled it was like no no way that they tackled it was like no no way that they tackled it was like no no we actually don't want you to think we actually don't want you to think we actually don't want you to think about this for yourself we want you to about this for yourself we want you to about this for yourself we want you to just come to mass come to church receive just come to mass come to church receive just come to mass come to church receive from the priest and then just go home from the priest and then just go home from the priest and then just go home and we so we have this long history of and we so we have this long history of and we so we have this long history of actually discouraging critical thinking actually discouraging critical thinking actually discouraging critical thinking amongst Christian communities because it amongst Christian communities because it amongst Christian communities because it gets a little bit messy to what you're gets a little bit messy to what you're gets a little bit messy to what you're saying when we hold all of the things saying when we hold all of the things saying when we hold all of the things that aren't the majors but we hold all that aren't the majors but we hold all that aren't the majors but we hold all the minors with Open Hands you know even the minors with Open Hands you know even the minors with Open Hands you know even the way we structure our Sunday services the way we structure our Sunday services the way we structure our Sunday services and my church is not immune from this and my church is not immune from this and my church is not immune from this but having a but having a but having a monologue as most of the Sunday service monologue as most of the Sunday service monologue as most of the Sunday service from one or two or maybe three people on from one or two or maybe three people on from one or two or maybe three people on a rotation for the entire year that a rotation for the entire year that a rotation for the entire year that doesn't inspire a whole lot of critical doesn't inspire a whole lot of critical doesn't inspire a whole lot of critical thinking that is like receive what the thinking that is like receive what the thinking that is like receive what the pastor the priest has to say and take it pastor the priest has to say and take it pastor the priest has to say and take it as truth and so in our christian as truth and so in our christian as truth and so in our christian community so now now I I will make an community so now now I I will make an community so now now I I will make an example of how we're making an effort to example of how we're making an effort to example of how we're making an effort to this we're trying to create a place this we're trying to create a place this we're trying to create a place where we can not discourage critical where we can not discourage critical where we can not discourage critical thinking but encourage it in a fruitful thinking but encourage it in a fruitful thinking but encourage it in a fruitful way so that does not look like passing way so that does not look like passing way so that does not look like passing the microphone uh to everyone in the the microphone uh to everyone in the the microphone uh to everyone in the room every week to hear what everyone room every week to hear what everyone room every week to hear what everyone has to say but it does look like

has to say but it does look like has to say but it does look like devoting some of our Sunday Gathering devoting some of our Sunday Gathering devoting some of our Sunday Gathering time to opening it up to group time to opening it up to group time to opening it up to group conversation and asking questions conversation and asking questions conversation and asking questions together answering questions together it together answering questions together it together answering questions together it looks like on our beliefs page having looks like on our beliefs page having looks like on our beliefs page having the Apostles Creed and the Ning Creed the Apostles Creed and the Ning Creed the Apostles Creed and the Ning Creed and not having any of the minors LED and not having any of the minors LED and not having any of the minors LED there because we're holding them with there because we're holding them with there because we're holding them with open hands and so so for me I feel a open hands and so so for me I feel a open hands and so so for me I feel a little bit of compassion because in little bit of compassion because in little bit of compassion because in throughout church history we have this throughout church history we have this throughout church history we have this quite actually long lineage of quite actually long lineage of quite actually long lineage of discouraging critical thinking because discouraging critical thinking because discouraging critical thinking because it gets a little bit messy and so I it gets a little bit messy and so I it gets a little bit messy and so I think in response my role as a pastor think in response my role as a pastor think in response my role as a pastor just simply as a person of faith is to just simply as a person of faith is to just simply as a person of faith is to create safe spaces whether it's in create safe spaces whether it's in create safe spaces whether it's in church or in my home or in my church or in my home or in my church or in my home or in my friendships to inspire and encourage friendships to inspire and encourage friendships to inspire and encourage critical thinking and say like you know critical thinking and say like you know critical thinking and say like you know what we actually can talk about this what we actually can talk about this what we actually can talk about this plainly we can dare to be wrong about plainly we can dare to be wrong about plainly we can dare to be wrong about something as opposed to like just using something as opposed to like just using something as opposed to like just using spiritual language to make it sound safe spiritual language to make it sound safe spiritual language to make it sound safe make it sound good and um and just make it sound good and um and just make it sound good and um and just moving along from there final word I'll moving along from there final word I'll moving along from there final word I'll say on this is that I spent a say on this is that I spent a say on this is that I spent a considerable part of my 15 to 25y Old considerable part of my 15 to 25y Old considerable part of my 15 to 25y Old decade reading theology books diving so decade reading theology books diving so decade reading theology books diving so deep into the nuances of every part of deep into the nuances of every part of deep into the nuances of every part of scripture and the Christian faith scripture and the Christian faith scripture and the Christian faith famously in my own friend group in the famously in my own friend group in the famously in my own friend group in the 11th grade I had Wayne theology like 11th grade I had Wayne theology like 11th grade I had Wayne theology like before Bible I was buying these things before Bible I was buying these things before Bible I was buying these things recreationally that's how much of a recreationally that's how much of a recreationally that's how much of a sicko that I was because I knew I wanted sicko that I was because I knew I wanted sicko that I was because I knew I wanted to be a pastor to be a pastor to be a pastor early and but then I couldn't speak in early and but then I couldn't speak in early and but then I couldn't speak in tongues I don't tongues I don't tongues I don't know uh and I got to like the end of

know uh and I got to like the end of know uh and I got to like the end of that decade and I was like what fruit that decade and I was like what fruit that decade and I was like what fruit has come from this cuz I do feel like has come from this cuz I do feel like has come from this cuz I do feel like that's how I should be evaluating this that's how I should be evaluating this that's how I should be evaluating this like am I growing in my love of neighbor like am I growing in my love of neighbor like am I growing in my love of neighbor am I growing in my love of God am I am I growing in my love of God am I am I growing in my love of God am I growing in my understanding of God I I growing in my understanding of God I I growing in my understanding of God I I honestly didn't think I was and so at honestly didn't think I was and so at honestly didn't think I was and so at this point and I'm not suggesting this this point and I'm not suggesting this this point and I'm not suggesting this should be how it is for everyone in fact should be how it is for everyone in fact should be how it is for everyone in fact there are many people that it shouldn't there are many people that it shouldn't there are many people that it shouldn't be this way for like I hold fast to the be this way for like I hold fast to the be this way for like I hold fast to the the doctrines in like the Apostles Creed the doctrines in like the Apostles Creed the doctrines in like the Apostles Creed like the basics everything else I don't like the basics everything else I don't like the basics everything else I don't really have much interest in because for really have much interest in because for really have much interest in because for me it wasn't leading me to become more me it wasn't leading me to become more me it wasn't leading me to become more like Jesus and that could change in like Jesus and that could change in like Jesus and that could change in another decade it's only been about one another decade it's only been about one another decade it's only been about one decade since that previous decade and decade since that previous decade and decade since that previous decade and it's been so much more freeing because it's been so much more freeing because it's been so much more freeing because I've been able to actually like be I've been able to actually like be I've been able to actually like be formed more like Jesus because I haven't formed more like Jesus because I haven't formed more like Jesus because I haven't been like so deep in the minutia of like been like so deep in the minutia of like been like so deep in the minutia of like different translations and different translations and different translations and interpretations of things again like interpretations of things again like interpretations of things again like didn't help me do the thing that I didn't help me do the thing that I didn't help me do the thing that I claimed to believe in the most and so claimed to believe in the most and so claimed to believe in the most and so maybe that's a reflection on me an maybe that's a reflection on me an maybe that's a reflection on me an inability to keep the miners minor I inability to keep the miners minor I inability to keep the miners minor I like kept elevating them because if I like kept elevating them because if I like kept elevating them because if I couldn't get an answer I just would couldn't get an answer I just would couldn't get an answer I just would focus more on it and the more that I focus more on it and the more that I focus more on it and the more that I focused on it the more that I elevated focused on it the more that I elevated focused on it the more that I elevated it the more that it actually took the it the more that it actually took the it the more that it actually took the place that the major should have been in place that the major should have been in place that the major should have been in in the first place so for me I had to in the first place so for me I had to in the first place so for me I had to let that go which is why you'll see us let that go which is why you'll see us let that go which is why you'll see us platform a Progressive Church you'll see platform a Progressive Church you'll see platform a Progressive Church you'll see us platform a conservative Church you'll us platform a conservative Church you'll us platform a conservative Church you'll see us platform a non-american church see us platform a non-american church see us platform a non-american church that does things dramatically different that does things dramatically different that does things dramatically different than the North American Church does than the North American Church does than the North American Church does you'll see us um platform a mega church you'll see us um platform a mega church you'll see us um platform a mega church you'll see us platform a small Church you'll see us platform a small Church you'll see us platform a small Church Old Church young Church different Old Church young Church different Old Church young Church different ethnicities of church because I'm like

ethnicities of church because I'm like ethnicities of church because I'm like as far as I can tell they all ascribe to as far as I can tell they all ascribe to as far as I can tell they all ascribe to the Apostles Creed look they're doing the Apostles Creed look they're doing the Apostles Creed look they're doing this that I think is cool that's not me this that I think is cool that's not me this that I think is cool that's not me unilaterally saying everything this unilaterally saying everything this unilaterally saying everything this church does must be copied right and church does must be copied right and church does must be copied right and that's where come on we got to be able that's where come on we got to be able that's where come on we got to be able to parse things a little bit uh better to parse things a little bit uh better to parse things a little bit uh better than that but I think Alex is making a than that but I think Alex is making a than that but I think Alex is making a great Point again thank you yeah about I great Point again thank you yeah about I great Point again thank you yeah about I need to develop more in my compassion need to develop more in my compassion need to develop more in my compassion because I get into my analytical bag and because I get into my analytical bag and because I get into my analytical bag and I go all I go all I go all right you want to play you want to tango right you want to play you want to tango right you want to play you want to tango and that's not the right spirit and I and that's not the right spirit and I and that's not the right spirit and I would say that happens about 10% at the would say that happens about 10% at the would say that happens about 10% at the time right now but like I should be time right now but like I should be time right now but like I should be working to get that closer to 1% but working to get that closer to 1% but working to get that closer to 1% but you're so right if we don't believe the you're so right if we don't believe the you're so right if we don't believe the same things we believed 10 years ago why same things we believed 10 years ago why same things we believed 10 years ago why on Earth do I believe that 10 years from on Earth do I believe that 10 years from on Earth do I believe that 10 years from now I'm going to believe exactly how I now I'm going to believe exactly how I now I'm going to believe exactly how I believe today that's the thing right believe today that's the thing right believe today that's the thing right like which is so funny because what I like which is so funny because what I like which is so funny because what I believe today I feel like so secure in believe today I feel like so secure in believe today I feel like so secure in um and surely like it's not as volatile um and surely like it's not as volatile um and surely like it's not as volatile yes like as we age we you you know you yes like as we age we you you know you yes like as we age we you you know you you reach some form of like spiritual you reach some form of like spiritual you reach some form of like spiritual maturity where you're not like a you maturity where you're not like a you maturity where you're not like a you know you're not just like blowing in the know you're not just like blowing in the know you're not just like blowing in the wind but like yeah I just can't be naive wind but like yeah I just can't be naive wind but like yeah I just can't be naive to believe that like 10 years from now to believe that like 10 years from now to believe that like 10 years from now I'm not going to have some sort of I'm I'm not going to have some sort of I'm I'm not going to have some sort of I'm not going to grow in a way spiritually not going to grow in a way spiritually not going to grow in a way spiritually that I'm not going to have different that I'm not going to have different that I'm not going to have different opinions on some of these things that's opinions on some of these things that's opinions on some of these things that's what I tried to say to some of the what I tried to say to some of the what I tried to say to some of the people in the comments I was like have people in the comments I was like have people in the comments I was like have you ever have you ever believed you ever have you ever believed you ever have you ever believed differently than now like of course I differently than now like of course I differently than now like of course I was like so might you believe was like so might you believe was like so might you believe differently in the future no no no now I differently in the future no no no now I differently in the future no no no now I have it right I was like you might but have it right I was like you might but have it right I was like you might but like can we at least hold that a little like can we at least hold that a little like can we at least hold that a little bit more I'm 22 I have it figured out bit more I'm 22 I have it figured out bit more I'm 22 I have it figured out okay 33 I have it all figured out third okay 33 I have it all figured out third okay 33 I have it all figured out third year Bible College got a question about year Bible College got a question about year Bible College got a question about sharing sermon Clips well good CU we

sharing sermon Clips well good CU we sharing sermon Clips well good CU we talk a lot about that I've been talk a lot about that I've been talk a lot about that I've been following your advice for pulling following your advice for pulling following your advice for pulling interesting Snippets from already interesting Snippets from already interesting Snippets from already recorded sermons and they turn out recorded sermons and they turn out recorded sermons and they turn out decently well but I've noticed from some decently well but I've noticed from some decently well but I've noticed from some of the great examples that you share of the great examples that you share of the great examples that you share there are usually multiple camera angles there are usually multiple camera angles there are usually multiple camera angles and interesting footage because someone and interesting footage because someone and interesting footage because someone is clearly directing behind the scenes is clearly directing behind the scenes is clearly directing behind the scenes am I church it's just me vmx and a am I church it's just me vmx and a am I church it's just me vmx and a camera I don't have an easy way to get camera I don't have an easy way to get camera I don't have an easy way to get multiple interesting shots so do you multiple interesting shots so do you multiple interesting shots so do you think that matters and if so any think that matters and if so any think that matters and if so any suggestions for how I can use better suggestions for how I can use better suggestions for how I can use better what I have I'm working on building a what I have I'm working on building a what I have I'm working on building a media team so I may have more options in media team so I may have more options in media team so I may have more options in the future was that BMX was that DMX was the future was that BMX was that DMX was the future was that BMX was that DMX was it vmx I think it's vmix it vmx I think it's vmix it vmx I think it's vmix vmix just just me v-mix and a camera vmix just just me v-mix and a camera vmix just just me v-mix and a camera just wanted to just to be clear do I just wanted to just to be clear do I just wanted to just to be clear do I think it matters uh no I don't think it think it matters uh no I don't think it think it matters uh no I don't think it matters if you look at my my reels uh matters if you look at my my reels uh matters if you look at my my reels uh it's just a static camera shot and I do it's just a static camera shot and I do it's just a static camera shot and I do a lot of editing on top of that but when a lot of editing on top of that but when a lot of editing on top of that but when it's filmed it's just me sitting at a it's filmed it's just me sitting at a it's filmed it's just me sitting at a table with a camera that's flat here's table with a camera that's flat here's table with a camera that's flat here's the thing if you are cropping from a the thing if you are cropping from a the thing if you are cropping from a horizontal canvas to a vertical canvas horizontal canvas to a vertical canvas horizontal canvas to a vertical canvas so long as your pastor isn't literally so long as your pastor isn't literally so long as your pastor isn't literally standing at the pulpit never moving standing at the pulpit never moving standing at the pulpit never moving there's already going to be a lot of there's already going to be a lot of there's already going to be a lot of movement to the shot as the AI tracks movement to the shot as the AI tracks movement to the shot as the AI tracks your pastor as he or she moves through your pastor as he or she moves through your pastor as he or she moves through the frame because you can't keep them the frame because you can't keep them the frame because you can't keep them contained in the frame if you crop it contained in the frame if you crop it contained in the frame if you crop it from horizontal to Vertical cuz you're from horizontal to Vertical cuz you're from horizontal to Vertical cuz you're losing so much of the horizontal canvas losing so much of the horizontal canvas losing so much of the horizontal canvas so now that single camera shot that you so now that single camera shot that you so now that single camera shot that you might think is pretty static and maybe might think is pretty static and maybe might think is pretty static and maybe on its own it is now it's a little bit on its own it is now it's a little bit on its own it is now it's a little bit more Dynamic cuz it's moving the other more Dynamic cuz it's moving the other more Dynamic cuz it's moving the other thing is it's a 30 to 90 second clip so thing is it's a 30 to 90 second clip so thing is it's a 30 to 90 second clip so you're not going to need so much Variety you're not going to need so much Variety you're not going to need so much Variety in those 30 to 90

in those 30 to 90 in those 30 to 90 seconds it's not like we're watching a seconds it's not like we're watching a seconds it's not like we're watching a 40-minute thing and it's like ah this 40-minute thing and it's like ah this 40-minute thing and it's like ah this can get a little bit stale that time is can get a little bit stale that time is can get a little bit stale that time is short enough um there are things that short enough um there are things that short enough um there are things that you can do on top of this though like you can do on top of this though like you can do on top of this though like you do not need to add two more camera you do not need to add two more camera you do not need to add two more camera angles and have like a switcher and angles and have like a switcher and angles and have like a switcher and bring on more people um on the volunteer bring on more people um on the volunteer bring on more people um on the volunteer team you can punch in and punch out from team you can punch in and punch out from team you can punch in and punch out from the clip that you already have we gain a the clip that you already have we gain a the clip that you already have we gain a lot more flexibility when we take a lot more flexibility when we take a lot more flexibility when we take a recorded recorded recorded sermon that might not have the perfect sermon that might not have the perfect sermon that might not have the perfect resolution and then publish it on a resolution and then publish it on a resolution and then publish it on a phone because the phone's real estate is phone because the phone's real estate is phone because the phone's real estate is that much smaller than the computer and that much smaller than the computer and that much smaller than the computer and so what might look is like oh I'm losing so what might look is like oh I'm losing so what might look is like oh I'm losing quality here when it Get shrunk down to quality here when it Get shrunk down to quality here when it Get shrunk down to the mobile device you've got a lot more the mobile device you've got a lot more the mobile device you've got a lot more room and flexibility so you can punch in room and flexibility so you can punch in room and flexibility so you can punch in you can punch out if you feel like you you can punch out if you feel like you you can punch out if you feel like you want to cut the sermon up if you want to want to cut the sermon up if you want to want to cut the sermon up if you want to remove some of the silences that's a remove some of the silences that's a remove some of the silences that's a part that often gets overlooked that I part that often gets overlooked that I part that often gets overlooked that I think matters more the Cadence and think matters more the Cadence and think matters more the Cadence and pacing of the preacher speaking because pacing of the preacher speaking because pacing of the preacher speaking because the Cadence and pacing of preaching live the Cadence and pacing of preaching live the Cadence and pacing of preaching live to a room is very different from social to a room is very different from social to a room is very different from social media it's kind of the equivalent of media it's kind of the equivalent of media it's kind of the equivalent of like if you're listening to a podcast on like if you're listening to a podcast on like if you're listening to a podcast on 1.5 speed and then you drop it down to 1.5 speed and then you drop it down to 1.5 speed and then you drop it down to one speed like that's normal but it one speed like that's normal but it one speed like that's normal but it sounds slow relative to what we're used sounds slow relative to what we're used sounds slow relative to what we're used to and so what can make a difference not to and so what can make a difference not to and so what can make a difference not the camera angle what can make a the camera angle what can make a the camera angle what can make a difference is if like your preaching difference is if like your preaching difference is if like your preaching Cadence is so much slower than Cadence is so much slower than Cadence is so much slower than everything else that a person has just everything else that a person has just everything else that a person has just scrolled through on social and will scrolled through on social and will scrolled through on social and will scroll to after your post and so now scroll to after your post and so now scroll to after your post and so now they're swiping past cuz they're like they're swiping past cuz they're like they're swiping past cuz they're like man this is just the slowest thing ever man this is just the slowest thing ever man this is just the slowest thing ever and so we remove silences when we edit and so we remove silences when we edit and so we remove silences when we edit we will cut things up to make them more we will cut things up to make them more we will cut things up to make them more Snappy because that is the Cadence that Snappy because that is the Cadence that Snappy because that is the Cadence that translates best to social media yeah and translates best to social media yeah and translates best to social media yeah and isn't that how it always goes with video isn't that how it always goes with video isn't that how it always goes with video we focus so much on the video side and

we focus so much on the video side and we focus so much on the video side and we forget about uh the audio side we forget about uh the audio side we forget about uh the audio side another thing that you can do a little another thing that you can do a little another thing that you can do a little Ken burn Zoom this is the very slow Zoom Ken burn Zoom this is the very slow Zoom Ken burn Zoom this is the very slow Zoom that you ramp very slowly very slowly that you ramp very slowly very slowly that you ramp very slowly very slowly you're still zooming oh are we zooming you're still zooming oh are we zooming you're still zooming oh are we zooming right now oh a little bit of movement right now oh a little bit of movement right now oh a little bit of movement that I didn't detect until just now uh that I didn't detect until just now uh that I didn't detect until just now uh b-roll can also be added in post so so b-roll can also be added in post so so b-roll can also be added in post so so many options for you pick and choose many options for you pick and choose many options for you pick and choose some of these combine them options for some of these combine them options for some of these combine them options for you that are Beyond oh I'm going to you that are Beyond oh I'm going to you that are Beyond oh I'm going to radically change my live stream setup or radically change my live stream setup or radically change my live stream setup or I'm just going to abandon this approach I'm just going to abandon this approach I'm just going to abandon this approach to social Clips altogether because we to social Clips altogether because we to social Clips altogether because we don't have the setup that you need to don't have the setup that you need to don't have the setup that you need to perform well MH and all in all like it's perform well MH and all in all like it's perform well MH and all in all like it's the content of the post the content of the content of the post the content of the content of the post the content of the sermon clip that you're posting is the sermon clip that you're posting is the sermon clip that you're posting is what matters right so that that 3 second what matters right so that that 3 second what matters right so that that 3 second hook at the beginning the that that one hook at the beginning the that that one hook at the beginning the that that one line or that two lines that's going to line or that two lines that's going to line or that two lines that's going to pop pop up later in the video to grab pop pop up later in the video to grab pop pop up later in the video to grab your user the the yeah your followers your user the the yeah your followers your user the the yeah your followers attention the folks who are finding you attention the folks who are finding you attention the folks who are finding you on Instagram or Facebook reels or uh on Instagram or Facebook reels or uh on Instagram or Facebook reels or uh YouTube shorts wherever they're finding YouTube shorts wherever they're finding YouTube shorts wherever they're finding you it's those first few words those you it's those first few words those you it's those first few words those first few sentences that hook you in first few sentences that hook you in first few sentences that hook you in that capture the the viewers attention that capture the the viewers attention that capture the the viewers attention and all those other video editing uh and all those other video editing uh and all those other video editing uh tips and tactics are great to maintain tips and tactics are great to maintain tips and tactics are great to maintain the attention but if you can't get the attention but if you can't get the attention but if you can't get someone's attention in the first place someone's attention in the first place someone's attention in the first place you know camera angles isn't going to you know camera angles isn't going to you know camera angles isn't going to help that either 100% Hook is what's help that either 100% Hook is what's help that either 100% Hook is what's going to drive 80% of the performance going to drive 80% of the performance going to drive 80% of the performance okay bra it's that time of year quickly okay bra it's that time of year quickly okay bra it's that time of year quickly approaching approaching approaching summertime and the question is what's summertime and the question is what's summertime and the question is what's going to be your summer fragrance this going to be your summer fragrance this going to be your summer fragrance this year the Year of ourl 2024 okay so let's year the Year of ourl 2024 okay so let's year the Year of ourl 2024 okay so let's talk about the summer uh rotation you

talk about the summer uh rotation you talk about the summer uh rotation you know what is my fragrance policy what know what is my fragrance policy what know what is my fragrance policy what are my values I am looking for three are my values I am looking for three are my values I am looking for three things I'm looking for masculine I'm things I'm looking for masculine I'm things I'm looking for masculine I'm looking for longevity and I'm looking looking for longevity and I'm looking looking for longevity and I'm looking for modern the masculine one is pretty for modern the masculine one is pretty for modern the masculine one is pretty straightforward though I will dip into a straightforward though I will dip into a straightforward though I will dip into a neutral fragrance most of mine are going neutral fragrance most of mine are going neutral fragrance most of mine are going to skew more to the masculine side to skew more to the masculine side to skew more to the masculine side longevity this is especially important longevity this is especially important longevity this is especially important in Summertime Summertime we often call in Summertime Summertime we often call in Summertime Summertime we often call those types of fragrances Freshies a those types of fragrances Freshies a those types of fragrances Freshies a freshy uses different ingredients and freshy uses different ingredients and freshy uses different ingredients and substances relative to a cold weather substances relative to a cold weather substances relative to a cold weather fragrance and those substances just fragrance and those substances just fragrance and those substances just don't have the same staying power so don't have the same staying power so don't have the same staying power so famously there are so many great great famously there are so many great great famously there are so many great great smelling warm weather fragrances that smelling warm weather fragrances that smelling warm weather fragrances that just don't stick around you spray it just don't stick around you spray it just don't stick around you spray it it's there for a seconds and it's gone it's there for a seconds and it's gone it's there for a seconds and it's gone whereas you'll have these like winter whereas you'll have these like winter whereas you'll have these like winter cold weather fragrances that are like cold weather fragrances that are like cold weather fragrances that are like cinnamon and caramel and oud and these cinnamon and caramel and oud and these cinnamon and caramel and oud and these like really long lasting smell like like really long lasting smell like like really long lasting smell like Don't Spray those the same way you spray Don't Spray those the same way you spray Don't Spray those the same way you spray a summer one or else you're going to a summer one or else you're going to a summer one or else you're going to like you know take some people out and like you know take some people out and like you know take some people out and then then then modern I don't want to be smelling like modern I don't want to be smelling like modern I don't want to be smelling like my grandfather or like someone that's my grandfather or like someone that's my grandfather or like someone that's that many generations before it's just that many generations before it's just that many generations before it's just like there was just different styles like there was just different styles like there was just different styles then and those Styles don't relate to me then and those Styles don't relate to me then and those Styles don't relate to me as well so let's talk about what's in as well so let's talk about what's in as well so let's talk about what's in the summer rotation first Roa alysium the summer rotation first Roa alysium the summer rotation first Roa alysium you've secured all these they're in the you've secured all these they're in the you've secured all these they're in the bag yeah and the bottom two are kind of bag yeah and the bottom two are kind of bag yeah and the bottom two are kind of my two favorites these are kind of the my two favorites these are kind of the my two favorites these are kind of the new uh the new guys on the block all new uh the new guys on the block all new uh the new guys on the block all right so Roa alysium this is kind of my right so Roa alysium this is kind of my right so Roa alysium this is kind of my everyday it doesn't have outstanding everyday it doesn't have outstanding everyday it doesn't have outstanding staying power but it's pretty good it's

staying power but it's pretty good it's staying power but it's pretty good it's charismatic it's very fizzy sparkling uh charismatic it's very fizzy sparkling uh charismatic it's very fizzy sparkling uh some people say it's kind of like some people say it's kind of like some people say it's kind of like spraying root beer or like Coca-Cola on spraying root beer or like Coca-Cola on spraying root beer or like Coca-Cola on you like okay that same effervescence it you like okay that same effervescence it you like okay that same effervescence it does not smell like root beer right but does not smell like root beer right but does not smell like root beer right but that same effervescence uh second one is that same effervescence uh second one is that same effervescence uh second one is Creed Silver Mountain Water this is it's Creed Silver Mountain Water this is it's Creed Silver Mountain Water this is it's it's it's a bit Inky I like in it to a it's it's a bit Inky I like in it to a it's it's a bit Inky I like in it to a freshly ironed white freshly ironed white freshly ironed white T-shirt very nice uh zeraf Torino 21 T-shirt very nice uh zeraf Torino 21 T-shirt very nice uh zeraf Torino 21 this is European summer okay this is I'm this is European summer okay this is I'm this is European summer okay this is I'm in Italy maybe I'm on the Amalfi Coast in Italy maybe I'm on the Amalfi Coast in Italy maybe I'm on the Amalfi Coast are you going to Europe this summer uh are you going to Europe this summer uh are you going to Europe this summer uh this fall okay technically summer cuz this fall okay technically summer cuz this fall okay technically summer cuz it's L summer yeah yeah um Scandinavia it's L summer yeah yeah um Scandinavia it's L summer yeah yeah um Scandinavia little little little Copenhagen little little little little Copenhagen little little little little Copenhagen little Stockholm little Oslo little Stockholm little Oslo little Stockholm little Oslo little Amsterdam four new countries Amsterdam four new countries Amsterdam four new countries excited um yeah the Zer Torino 21 this excited um yeah the Zer Torino 21 this excited um yeah the Zer Torino 21 this is named after the tennis tournament in is named after the tennis tournament in is named after the tennis tournament in Torino okay and this is the one from 21 Torino okay and this is the one from 21 Torino okay and this is the one from 21 I believe there's one from 22 23 cool I believe there's one from 22 23 cool I believe there's one from 22 23 cool 21's my favorite mint lemon basil uh 21's my favorite mint lemon basil uh 21's my favorite mint lemon basil uh Dolce and gabana light blue forever this Dolce and gabana light blue forever this Dolce and gabana light blue forever this is going to be the most affordable we've is going to be the most affordable we've is going to be the most affordable we've talked about this one before on the list talked about this one before on the list talked about this one before on the list so light blue is a very famous uh dolang so light blue is a very famous uh dolang so light blue is a very famous uh dolang gabana fragrance forever is one of the gabana fragrance forever is one of the gabana fragrance forever is one of the flankers to remind everyone a flanker is flankers to remind everyone a flanker is flankers to remind everyone a flanker is like a remix on an existing fragrance so like a remix on an existing fragrance so like a remix on an existing fragrance so you have like the Baseline you have Coke you have like the Baseline you have Coke you have like the Baseline you have Coke oh this Cherry Coke o interesting so oh this Cherry Coke o interesting so oh this Cherry Coke o interesting so light blue forever sometimes it's a light blue forever sometimes it's a light blue forever sometimes it's a unique take or a slightly different take unique take or a slightly different take unique take or a slightly different take on the original fragrance other times if

on the original fragrance other times if on the original fragrance other times if it's a really popular fragrance line it it's a really popular fragrance line it it's a really popular fragrance line it could be a completely different smelling could be a completely different smelling could be a completely different smelling fragrance that the manufacturer the fragrance that the manufacturer the fragrance that the manufacturer the perfume brand was like well let's perfume brand was like well let's perfume brand was like well let's leverage this name everybody already leverage this name everybody already leverage this name everybody already knows because we'll make more money if knows because we'll make more money if knows because we'll make more money if we call this Dior saage forever rather we call this Dior saage forever rather we call this Dior saage forever rather than calling it like Dior Forever on its than calling it like Dior Forever on its than calling it like Dior Forever on its own everyone knows saage so let's like own everyone knows saage so let's like own everyone knows saage so let's like build off of that reputation forever um build off of that reputation forever um build off of that reputation forever um light blue forever is similar to light light blue forever is similar to light light blue forever is similar to light blue um it has a very authentic genuine blue um it has a very authentic genuine blue um it has a very authentic genuine grapefruit note and then it's a bit grapefruit note and then it's a bit grapefruit note and then it's a bit musky so pretty delightful and about as musky so pretty delightful and about as musky so pretty delightful and about as good as you're going to get get for good as you're going to get get for good as you're going to get get for longevity and quality for something longevity and quality for something longevity and quality for something that's that affordable okay get it at that's that affordable okay get it at that's that affordable okay get it at any Macy's you know 85 bucks something any Macy's you know 85 bucks something any Macy's you know 85 bucks something like that uh next up Creed Royal water like that uh next up Creed Royal water like that uh next up Creed Royal water now this one is this one is a little bit now this one is this one is a little bit now this one is this one is a little bit older it's a little like oh oh I want a older it's a little like oh oh I want a older it's a little like oh oh I want a super yacht o something like that uh super yacht o something like that uh super yacht o something like that uh it's classy it's fresh and it literally it's classy it's fresh and it literally it's classy it's fresh and it literally just looks like water it's you know in a just looks like water it's you know in a just looks like water it's you know in a perfectly clear bottle and it's like oh perfectly clear bottle and it's like oh perfectly clear bottle and it's like oh this is the water that the billionaires this is the water that the billionaires this is the water that the billionaires drink right but but don't drink it right drink right but but don't drink it right drink right but but don't drink it right yeah the analogy breaks breaks down yeah the analogy breaks breaks down yeah the analogy breaks breaks down there a bit more okay let's talk about there a bit more okay let's talk about there a bit more okay let's talk about the two big ones for this summer they the two big ones for this summer they the two big ones for this summer they are both Lou Vuitton fragrances the are both Lou Vuitton fragrances the are both Lou Vuitton fragrances the first is Imagination now this was a big first is Imagination now this was a big first is Imagination now this was a big player last summer okay I picked it up player last summer okay I picked it up player last summer okay I picked it up in Lisbon in Portugal and this is what I in Lisbon in Portugal and this is what I in Lisbon in Portugal and this is what I like to do and I encourage everyone to like to do and I encourage everyone to like to do and I encourage everyone to do this when you are on vacation this do this when you are on vacation this do this when you are on vacation this could be vacation around the world this could be vacation around the world this could be vacation around the world this could be vacation out of town it doesn't could be vacation out of town it doesn't could be vacation out of town it doesn't matter anywhere that is not your home

matter anywhere that is not your home matter anywhere that is not your home get a fragrance or bring a fragrance and get a fragrance or bring a fragrance and get a fragrance or bring a fragrance and then wear it exclusively on that trip then wear it exclusively on that trip then wear it exclusively on that trip and what you will do is you will unlock and what you will do is you will unlock and what you will do is you will unlock some secret part of the human chemistry some secret part of the human chemistry some secret part of the human chemistry so good where you tie that fragrance to so good where you tie that fragrance to so good where you tie that fragrance to a specific moment in time and because a specific moment in time and because a specific moment in time and because you're on vacation it's almost certainly you're on vacation it's almost certainly you're on vacation it's almost certainly going to be a positive memory and so going to be a positive memory and so going to be a positive memory and so every time I spray that I remember every time I spray that I remember every time I spray that I remember climbing through the streets of Lisbon climbing through the streets of Lisbon climbing through the streets of Lisbon and I wear it beyond that but it's and I wear it beyond that but it's and I wear it beyond that but it's uniquely anchored to that memory and it uniquely anchored to that memory and it uniquely anchored to that memory and it in a in a in a way like inflates that memory it like way like inflates that memory it like way like inflates that memory it like charges up that memory it adds Dimension charges up that memory it adds Dimension charges up that memory it adds Dimension to the memory is what it does it's like to the memory is what it does it's like to the memory is what it does it's like this threedimensional memory that I can this threedimensional memory that I can this threedimensional memory that I can I can I can see but I can also smell I I can I can see but I can also smell I I can I can see but I can also smell I guess two guess two guess two dimensional and uh here's what someone dimensional and uh here's what someone dimensional and uh here's what someone wrote online about Louis Vuitton wrote online about Louis Vuitton wrote online about Louis Vuitton imagination imagine you just got out of imagination imagine you just got out of imagination imagine you just got out of the ocean head back up to your five-star the ocean head back up to your five-star the ocean head back up to your five-star luxurious hotel and take a shower with luxurious hotel and take a shower with luxurious hotel and take a shower with their soap provided you then put some their soap provided you then put some their soap provided you then put some cozy clothes on linen probably and sit cozy clothes on linen probably and sit cozy clothes on linen probably and sit outside on your balcony you can still outside on your balcony you can still outside on your balcony you can still smell the ocean on your skin along with smell the ocean on your skin along with smell the ocean on your skin along with the god tears soap you just lathered the god tears soap you just lathered the god tears soap you just lathered with life is perfect that Louis Vuitton with life is perfect that Louis Vuitton with life is perfect that Louis Vuitton imagination sold and then the second one imagination sold and then the second one imagination sold and then the second one is Louis Vuitton Pacific chill now I is Louis Vuitton Pacific chill now I is Louis Vuitton Pacific chill now I picked this up in February in Dubai and picked this up in February in Dubai and picked this up in February in Dubai and then wore it in the mald so I picked it then wore it in the mald so I picked it then wore it in the mald so I picked it up in winter but I wore it in a summer up in winter but I wore it in a summer up in winter but I wore it in a summer climate haven't worn it since this is climate haven't worn it since this is climate haven't worn it since this is the one that probably on the spectrum of the one that probably on the spectrum of the one that probably on the spectrum of masculine to feminine sits right in the masculine to feminine sits right in the masculine to feminine sits right in the middle so if you're a woman you could middle so if you're a woman you could middle so if you're a woman you could totally pull this off interestingly my totally pull this off interestingly my totally pull this off interestingly my wife has said before that it is my wife has said before that it is my wife has said before that it is my favorite one okay what's also

favorite one okay what's also favorite one okay what's also interesting is the spring fragrance that interesting is the spring fragrance that interesting is the spring fragrance that you famously said smelled like deer you famously said smelled like deer you famously said smelled like deer urine she in the past week has said this urine she in the past week has said this urine she in the past week has said this is my favorite and then also what are is my favorite and then also what are is my favorite and then also what are you wearing to the same thing the same you wearing to the same thing the same you wearing to the same thing the same one God bless her so there is something one God bless her so there is something one God bless her so there is something and I wore it the other day I wore it to and I wore it the other day I wore it to and I wore it the other day I wore it to um I can't remember where I wore it but um I can't remember where I wore it but um I can't remember where I wore it but people were like what do you went to the people were like what do you went to the people were like what do you went to the dentist my dental hygienist and like the dentist my dental hygienist and like the dentist my dental hygienist and like the dentist came in another what is he dentist came in another what is he dentist came in another what is he wearing that sounds great I was like oh wearing that sounds great I was like oh wearing that sounds great I was like oh yeah this is Lilo another 13 and I was yeah this is Lilo another 13 and I was yeah this is Lilo another 13 and I was so I don't know what it is about that so I don't know what it is about that so I don't know what it is about that fragrance fragrance fragrance uh Louis Vuitton Pacific chill is minty uh Louis Vuitton Pacific chill is minty uh Louis Vuitton Pacific chill is minty it's basil it's fresh Light and Airy it's basil it's fresh Light and Airy it's basil it's fresh Light and Airy it's got a little bit of a little it's got a little bit of a little it's got a little bit of a little Tangerine in there it's nice and fruity Tangerine in there it's nice and fruity Tangerine in there it's nice and fruity can't go wrong so that's what we're can't go wrong so that's what we're can't go wrong so that's what we're rocking for uh for summer what what rocking for uh for summer what what rocking for uh for summer what what about you about you about you though well I was hul okay before we get though well I was hul okay before we get though well I was hul okay before we get to me it's Friday afternoon okay we're to me it's Friday afternoon okay we're to me it's Friday afternoon okay we're at your house yeah it's a pool day oh at your house yeah it's a pool day oh at your house yeah it's a pool day oh what fragrance are you wearing poolside what fragrance are you wearing poolside what fragrance are you wearing poolside this summer so now we're going deep okay this summer so now we're going deep okay this summer so now we're going deep okay mhm uh somebody asked me on Instagram mhm uh somebody asked me on Instagram mhm uh somebody asked me on Instagram this week how many colognes I have how this week how many colognes I have how this week how many colognes I have how many bottles of fragrance I don't know many bottles of fragrance I don't know many bottles of fragrance I don't know it's probably 100 okay only about 20 are it's probably 100 okay only about 20 are it's probably 100 okay only about 20 are in rotation it might be 200 only about in rotation it might be 200 only about in rotation it might be 200 only about 20 are in rotation about five per season 20 are in rotation about five per season 20 are in rotation about five per season that's what I like so I can stick with that's what I like so I can stick with that's what I like so I can stick with the same ones but it's not so monotonous the same ones but it's not so monotonous the same ones but it's not so monotonous that it's over and over again so what I that it's over and over again so what I that it's over and over again so what I like to do when I go to bed sometimes or like to do when I go to bed sometimes or like to do when I go to bed sometimes or on days where I'm by the pool is break on days where I'm by the pool is break on days where I'm by the pool is break out of freshy that I'm not going to keep out of freshy that I'm not going to keep out of freshy that I'm not going to keep in the reg rotation because it doesn't

in the reg rotation because it doesn't in the reg rotation because it doesn't have the have the have the longevity and I'm just going to like put longevity and I'm just going to like put longevity and I'm just going to like put 12 sprays on me and it's going to be 12 sprays on me and it's going to be 12 sprays on me and it's going to be beautiful for about 20 minutes and then beautiful for about 20 minutes and then beautiful for about 20 minutes and then it'll be gone right because you just it'll be gone right because you just it'll be gone right because you just feel some way after the pool that moment feel some way after the pool that moment feel some way after the pool that moment and feeling is also fleeting and so I and feeling is also fleeting and so I and feeling is also fleeting and so I want to align that temporary moment of want to align that temporary moment of want to align that temporary moment of time with the fragrance my skin time with the fragrance my skin time with the fragrance my skin chemistry is also unique like I was chemistry is also unique like I was chemistry is also unique like I was putting on Nishan woong Chaw this putting on Nishan woong Chaw this putting on Nishan woong Chaw this morning which was one of my favorite morning which was one of my favorite morning which was one of my favorite what are you talking what are you talking what are you talking about I said that bit and he's like that about I said that bit and he's like that about I said that bit and he's like that sounds kind of racist sounds like sounds kind of racist sounds like sounds kind of racist sounds like someone's trying to say oong t but someone's trying to say oong t but someone's trying to say oong t but trying to make it sound like fancy okay trying to make it sound like fancy okay trying to make it sound like fancy okay no you nailed it because it has a no you nailed it because it has a no you nailed it because it has a distinctive T note so this is a take on distinctive T note so this is a take on distinctive T note so this is a take on that Nishan is according to them and that Nishan is according to them and that Nishan is according to them and Nishan is spelled n i s h a n e Nishan Nishan is spelled n i s h a n e Nishan Nishan is spelled n i s h a n e Nishan is according to them the first and only is according to them the first and only is according to them the first and only Niche perfume brand out of Istanbul so Niche perfume brand out of Istanbul so Niche perfume brand out of Istanbul so this is a Turkish perfumer which is kind this is a Turkish perfumer which is kind this is a Turkish perfumer which is kind of rare um which the first and only and of rare um which the first and only and of rare um which the first and only and then the name of this perfume which is then the name of this perfume which is then the name of this perfume which is also very neutral might even lean also very neutral might even lean also very neutral might even lean feminine is woong Chaw to feminine is woong Chaw to feminine is woong Chaw to me this perfume which has outstanding me this perfume which has outstanding me this perfume which has outstanding staying power I don't know if you can staying power I don't know if you can staying power I don't know if you can smell it right now is um it's smell it right now is um it's smell it right now is um it's like freshly rained outside in the like freshly rained outside in the like freshly rained outside in the spring that's what it is fresh name for spring that's what it is fresh name for spring that's what it is fresh name for that Petra that Petra that Petra cor that's worse than woong cha no but cor that's worse than woong cha no but cor that's worse than woong cha no but that that's the actual name for it it's that that's the actual name for it it's that that's the actual name for it it's like the smell of fresh rain or the like the smell of fresh rain or the like the smell of fresh rain or the smell when it's about to rain it's smell when it's about to rain it's smell when it's about to rain it's called petor p e t r i c h o r pet h o r

called petor p e t r i c h o r pet h o r called petor p e t r i c h o r pet h o r okay let's go with that what am I okay let's go with that what am I okay let's go with that what am I wearing I don't want to answer this wearing I don't want to answer this wearing I don't want to answer this question live on the show because I question live on the show because I question live on the show because I don't want to make you feel bad but last don't want to make you feel bad but last don't want to make you feel bad but last time we talk about fragrances I made a time we talk about fragrances I made a time we talk about fragrances I made a charge to you I know what charge you charge to you I know what charge you charge to you I know what charge you made and I said can you find me an made and I said can you find me an made and I said can you find me an allnatural fragrance I know do you think allnatural fragrance I know do you think allnatural fragrance I know do you think I forgot this I don't know you're a busy I forgot this I don't know you're a busy I forgot this I don't know you're a busy man how dare you I would never forget man how dare you I would never forget man how dare you I would never forget you so I gave this a lot of thought yes you so I gave this a lot of thought yes you so I gave this a lot of thought yes which I assumed you would and what I which I assumed you would and what I which I assumed you would and what I came to was came to was came to was I one I don't know how he would I one I don't know how he would I one I don't know how he would delineate like natural versus delineate like natural versus delineate like natural versus non-natural it triggers me a little bit non-natural it triggers me a little bit non-natural it triggers me a little bit to even use those phrases but again I to even use those phrases but again I to even use those phrases but again I have to have more compassion but also have to have more compassion but also have to have more compassion but also like if you're triggered check in with like if you're triggered check in with like if you're triggered check in with yourself and come back to me later like yourself and come back to me later like yourself and come back to me later like yeah like heartbeat is up blood pressure yeah like heartbeat is up blood pressure yeah like heartbeat is up blood pressure is up feeling hot we're talking about fragrance fragrance uh am I the best you know Arbiter of uh am I the best you know Arbiter of uh am I the best you know Arbiter of that like I've never had any allnatural that like I've never had any allnatural that like I've never had any allnatural fragrances and so like you were leaning fragrances and so like you were leaning fragrances and so like you were leaning on my expertise but I don't have any on my expertise but I don't have any on my expertise but I don't have any expertise there so that being expertise there so that being expertise there so that being said just want you to know that I have said just want you to know that I have said just want you to know that I have not left you high and dry okay and not left you high and dry okay and not left you high and dry okay and that God does have a plan oh God's plan that God does have a plan oh God's plan that God does have a plan oh God's plan and and and you you not believing in me no it's not you you not believing in me no it's not you you not believing in me no it's not no you you you you see here's the thing no you you you you see here's the thing no you you you you see here's the thing every time I'm like we're going to do every time I'm like we're going to do every time I'm like we're going to do this thing you're like you can't and I'm this thing you're like you can't and I'm this thing you're like you can't and I'm a hater that's you that's you and if you a hater that's you that's you and if you a hater that's you that's you and if you had just held out what I'm saying is had just held out what I'm saying is had just held out what I'm saying is God's plan I wouldn't you asked me the God's plan I wouldn't you asked me the God's plan I wouldn't you asked me the question I would said I was trusting you

question I would said I was trusting you question I would said I was trusting you I'm looking at the notes braid abandoned I'm looking at the notes braid abandoned I'm looking at the notes braid abandoned me wouldn't make me wouldn't get me the me wouldn't make me wouldn't get me the me wouldn't make me wouldn't get me the fragrance now I smell like nothing I was fragrance now I smell like nothing I was fragrance now I smell like nothing I was not using luxurious hotel festar resort not using luxurious hotel festar resort not using luxurious hotel festar resort soap you know what's funny about that soap you know what's funny about that soap you know what's funny about that comment is that this has got to be a comment is that this has got to be a comment is that this has got to be a universal experience there is something universal experience there is something universal experience there is something about going to a hotel whether it's the about going to a hotel whether it's the about going to a hotel whether it's the most luxurious or the worst hotel you've most luxurious or the worst hotel you've most luxurious or the worst hotel you've ever been in and using the soap that's ever been in and using the soap that's ever been in and using the soap that's in the shower like at our home speaking in the shower like at our home speaking in the shower like at our home speaking of all natural at our home you wouldn't of all natural at our home you wouldn't of all natural at our home you wouldn't believe what our soap is made out of believe what our soap is made out of believe what our soap is made out of it's like I don't want to know yeah it's it's like I don't want to know yeah it's it's like I don't want to know yeah it's like Olive Oil and Beeswax and Charco like Olive Oil and Beeswax and Charco like Olive Oil and Beeswax and Charco activated charcoal but when I go to a activated charcoal but when I go to a activated charcoal but when I go to a hotel you think I care what's in that hotel you think I care what's in that hotel you think I care what's in that soap I'm using that soap yeah because soap I'm using that soap yeah because soap I'm using that soap yeah because your Baseline is oh we used mud from your Baseline is oh we used mud from your Baseline is oh we used mud from abouts and just recently we were on our abouts and just recently we were on our abouts and just recently we were on our way home from South Carolina we're in way home from South Carolina we're in way home from South Carolina we're in some hotel and I had that experience some hotel and I had that experience some hotel and I had that experience where I used the hotel soap and I was where I used the hotel soap and I was where I used the hotel soap and I was like I feel amazing and it's the lowest like I feel amazing and it's the lowest like I feel amazing and it's the lowest quality soap of all time so there's quality soap of all time so there's quality soap of all time so there's something to that it's my time to be something to that it's my time to be something to that it's my time to be honest with you yeah that is not the honest with you yeah that is not the honest with you yeah that is not the world I world I world I experience because I always use soap experience because I always use soap experience because I always use soap right right so it's just like yeah this right right so it's just like yeah this right right so it's just like yeah this is just soap yeah we were in Disney and is just soap yeah we were in Disney and is just soap yeah we were in Disney and I had to like open a one of those like I had to like open a one of those like I had to like open a one of those like oh plastic little hand soaps and I was oh plastic little hand soaps and I was oh plastic little hand soaps and I was like this is this is challenging now if like this is this is challenging now if like this is this is challenging now if you never used soap and you're oh you never used soap and you're oh you never used soap and you're oh bathing in uh yeah whatever's left clay bathing in uh yeah whatever's left clay bathing in uh yeah whatever's left clay what's in the cast iron pan you know what's in the cast iron pan you know what's in the cast iron pan you know just put that in here no that's clean no just put that in here no that's clean no just put that in here no that's clean no it's it's self seasoned as am I it's it's self seasoned as am I it's it's self seasoned as am I exactly nasty the worst part about the

exactly nasty the worst part about the exactly nasty the worst part about the worst part about that um is that that's worst part about that um is that that's worst part about that um is that that's probably closer to the truth in our in probably closer to the truth in our in probably closer to the truth in our in our household uh than the other end of our household uh than the other end of our household uh than the other end of the the the spectrum I'm happy to do a cast iron spectrum I'm happy to do a cast iron spectrum I'm happy to do a cast iron corner on this show at any time I'm corner on this show at any time I'm corner on this show at any time I'm ready to talk about cast iron pant um ready to talk about cast iron pant um ready to talk about cast iron pant um but can we move on from the fragrances but can we move on from the fragrances but can we move on from the fragrances no no we can't because cast iron panss no no we can't because cast iron panss no no we can't because cast iron panss you know I want I bought a new one a you know I want I bought a new one a you know I want I bought a new one a couple of weeks ago tough and I and I couple of weeks ago tough and I and I couple of weeks ago tough and I and I went through the process I did the went through the process I did the went through the process I did the seasoning I used it seasoning I used it seasoning I used it once and then two weeks later I just once and then two weeks later I just once and then two weeks later I just bought a new nonstick yeah yeah I think bought a new nonstick yeah yeah I think bought a new nonstick yeah yeah I think I got it from made in cookware yeah and I got it from made in cookware yeah and I got it from made in cookware yeah and you know they're like look keep this you know they're like look keep this you know they're like look keep this under 600° it's made with all these under 600° it's made with all these under 600° it's made with all these things like you're good MH I just can't things like you're good MH I just can't things like you're good MH I just can't get away from the non-stick yeah it's get away from the non-stick yeah it's get away from the non-stick yeah it's just so much more convenient you you I'm just so much more convenient you you I'm just so much more convenient you you I'm not sure you'd find a cast iron not sure you'd find a cast iron not sure you'd find a cast iron enthusiast who is honest with you there enthusiast who is honest with you there enthusiast who is honest with you there are some folks who are just like DED yes are some folks who are just like DED yes are some folks who are just like DED yes but who's honest enough to say that like but who's honest enough to say that like but who's honest enough to say that like cast iron as a cooking surface is better cast iron as a cooking surface is better cast iron as a cooking surface is better than than than nonstick um it takes a lot of I have a nonstick um it takes a lot of I have a nonstick um it takes a lot of I have a relationship I have relational Equity relationship I have relational Equity relationship I have relational Equity with my cast IR there's intimacy there with my cast IR there's intimacy there with my cast IR there's intimacy there yeah there really is to the point where yeah there really is to the point where yeah there really is to the point where um a couple weeks ago I left one on the um a couple weeks ago I left one on the um a couple weeks ago I left one on the burner uh when I was drying it out burner uh when I was drying it out burner uh when I was drying it out because you have to dry them out cuz because you have to dry them out cuz because you have to dry them out cuz they're dumb yeah and I left one on the they're dumb yeah and I left one on the they're dumb yeah and I left one on the burner because Asher needed my help I burner because Asher needed my help I burner because Asher needed my help I got distracted and I burnt all the got distracted and I burnt all the got distracted and I burnt all the seasoning off seasoning off seasoning off and I was that was the that was the end and I was that was the that was the end and I was that was the that was the end of my night I was having like an of my night I was having like an of my night I was having like an emotional visceral response to it's like emotional visceral response to it's like emotional visceral response to it's like not picking your kid up at like daycare

not picking your kid up at like daycare not picking your kid up at like daycare so I forgot to make daycare yeah all of so I forgot to make daycare yeah all of so I forgot to make daycare yeah all of my hard work all that seasoning all the my hard work all that seasoning all the my hard work all that seasoning all the history gone just there's a there's a history gone just there's a there's a history gone just there's a there's a lot of cooking growth happening in my lot of cooking growth happening in my lot of cooking growth happening in my life right now and like I still need the life right now and like I still need the life right now and like I still need the aid of the nonstick yeah and like any aid of the nonstick yeah and like any aid of the nonstick yeah and like any highquality restaurant or Chef would say highquality restaurant or Chef would say highquality restaurant or Chef would say the same thing which is like at home the same thing which is like at home the same thing which is like at home probably using a family heirloom cast probably using a family heirloom cast probably using a family heirloom cast iron pan cool love that there's a story iron pan cool love that there's a story iron pan cool love that there's a story there but in the restaurant it's like there but in the restaurant it's like there but in the restaurant it's like yeah we just need this like chicken skin yeah we just need this like chicken skin yeah we just need this like chicken skin not to stick or this egg not to stick not to stick or this egg not to stick not to stick or this egg not to stick yeah okay let's get this back on the yeah okay let's get this back on the yeah okay let's get this back on the rails uh next question I noticed the rails uh next question I noticed the rails uh next question I noticed the recent Church you highlighted that's recent Church you highlighted that's recent Church you highlighted that's doing well on YouTube uh called doing well on YouTube uh called doing well on YouTube uh called Cornerstone created a second channel to Cornerstone created a second channel to Cornerstone created a second channel to upload shorts to instead of doing it on upload shorts to instead of doing it on upload shorts to instead of doing it on the main Channel I helped my church with the main Channel I helped my church with the main Channel I helped my church with socials and we just started uploading socials and we just started uploading socials and we just started uploading shorts so I'm curious why they took this shorts so I'm curious why they took this shorts so I'm curious why they took this route all right we're going to get route all right we're going to get route all right we're going to get really deep in the weeds here there is a really deep in the weeds here there is a really deep in the weeds here there is a conspiracy theory amongst conspiracy theory amongst conspiracy theory amongst uh creators on YouTube and when I say uh creators on YouTube and when I say uh creators on YouTube and when I say conspiracy theory I'm not using it as a conspiracy theory I'm not using it as a conspiracy theory I'm not using it as a negative term I'm saying it as a bunch negative term I'm saying it as a bunch negative term I'm saying it as a bunch of creators believe it to be true of creators believe it to be true of creators believe it to be true YouTube has said it's not true but YouTube has said it's not true but YouTube has said it's not true but nobody believes that you can trust what nobody believes that you can trust what nobody believes that you can trust what YouTube has to say so the jury is out YouTube has to say so the jury is out YouTube has to say so the jury is out the belief is that and in practice it's the belief is that and in practice it's the belief is that and in practice it's hard to prove 100% right there are hard to prove 100% right there are hard to prove 100% right there are anecdotal evidence to say uh look this anecdotal evidence to say uh look this anecdotal evidence to say uh look this happened on my channel and so it see happened on my channel and so it see happened on my channel and so it see YouTube you're telling the truth and YouTube you're telling the truth and YouTube you're telling the truth and YouTube would say our internal data says YouTube would say our internal data says YouTube would say our internal data says otherwise you're like dang well they otherwise you're like dang well they otherwise you're like dang well they probably have more data than I do but probably have more data than I do but probably have more data than I do but also their self-interests are different also their self-interests are different also their self-interests are different than mine than mine than mine exactly established accounts have not exactly established accounts have not exactly established accounts have not seen what you would expect on social

seen what you would expect on social seen what you would expect on social media when a platform releases a new media when a platform releases a new media when a platform releases a new feature you invest in it you do it feature you invest in it you do it feature you invest in it you do it because they're like please please use because they're like please please use because they're like please please use this new feature if you do you're going this new feature if you do you're going this new feature if you do you're going to see good things come from him and to see good things come from him and to see good things come from him and we'll give you that because we want you we'll give you that because we want you we'll give you that because we want you to use it we haven't seen that with to use it we haven't seen that with to use it we haven't seen that with YouTube shorts these established YouTube shorts these established YouTube shorts these established channels like and ours is included channels like and ours is included channels like and ours is included dabble in it it's like your whole dabble in it it's like your whole dabble in it it's like your whole Channel like gets penalized it seems Y Channel like gets penalized it seems Y Channel like gets penalized it seems Y and so what established channels have and so what established channels have and so what established channels have begun doing is starting secondary begun doing is starting secondary begun doing is starting secondary channels where their shorts happen and channels where their shorts happen and channels where their shorts happen and it's a way of like insulating their main it's a way of like insulating their main it's a way of like insulating their main channel from their shorts channel from their shorts channel from their shorts experimentation so if you have an experimentation so if you have an experimentation so if you have an account like Cornerstone with 200,000 account like Cornerstone with 200,000 account like Cornerstone with 200,000 subscribers and you wanted to get deep subscribers and you wanted to get deep subscribers and you wanted to get deep into shorts then starting that secondary into shorts then starting that secondary into shorts then starting that secondary Channel That's dedicated exclusively to Channel That's dedicated exclusively to Channel That's dedicated exclusively to shorts might make sense if your channel shorts might make sense if your channel shorts might make sense if your channel is 3,000 subscribers or or fewer you is 3,000 subscribers or or fewer you is 3,000 subscribers or or fewer you don't need to worry about this publish don't need to worry about this publish don't need to worry about this publish it to the same Channel you're good and it to the same Channel you're good and it to the same Channel you're good and if you're an established Channel you if you're an established Channel you if you're an established Channel you have proven that your content that have proven that your content that have proven that your content that you're posting to YouTube resonates with you're posting to YouTube resonates with you're posting to YouTube resonates with folks so you probably won't have a hard folks so you probably won't have a hard folks so you probably won't have a hard time growing that secondary Channel if time growing that secondary Channel if time growing that secondary Channel if it's the same or similar content just it's the same or similar content just it's the same or similar content just posted in a short vertical um manner posted in a short vertical um manner posted in a short vertical um manner maybe but the conspiracy is that or the maybe but the conspiracy is that or the maybe but the conspiracy is that or the conspiracy one of the perhaps conspiracy one of the perhaps conspiracy one of the perhaps explanations of this phenomenon is that explanations of this phenomenon is that explanations of this phenomenon is that YouTube shorts are just not watched by YouTube shorts are just not watched by YouTube shorts are just not watched by the audience that watches YouTube Longs the audience that watches YouTube Longs the audience that watches YouTube Longs yeah and so if you start publishing the yeah and so if you start publishing the yeah and so if you start publishing the shorts to that platform that's just not shorts to that platform that's just not shorts to that platform that's just not going to reach that audience and so going to reach that audience and so going to reach that audience and so YouTube would just say look it's not for YouTube would just say look it's not for YouTube would just say look it's not for that audience there might be another that audience there might be another that audience there might be another audience that would enjoy your content

audience that would enjoy your content audience that would enjoy your content in a different format but that's in a different format but that's in a different format but that's actually a different audience which is actually a different audience which is actually a different audience which is interesting because this is only really interesting because this is only really interesting because this is only really true on YouTube when Facebook when true on YouTube when Facebook when true on YouTube when Facebook when Instagram when Tik Tok introduce new Instagram when Tik Tok introduce new Instagram when Tik Tok introduce new features they kind of like shove it in features they kind of like shove it in features they kind of like shove it in your face and you can't really escape your face and you can't really escape your face and you can't really escape the main feed so you just kind of get the main feed so you just kind of get the main feed so you just kind of get used to it whereas on Instagram like used to it whereas on Instagram like used to it whereas on Instagram like fine just going to stay in my fine just going to stay in my fine just going to stay in my subscriptions tab I'm not going to watch subscriptions tab I'm not going to watch subscriptions tab I'm not going to watch these shorts and YouTube hasn't done a these shorts and YouTube hasn't done a these shorts and YouTube hasn't done a good job of forcing people to watch good job of forcing people to watch good job of forcing people to watch shorts because they don't want to shorts because they don't want to shorts because they don't want to disrupt their existing users the other disrupt their existing users the other disrupt their existing users the other social platforms are like you're going social platforms are like you're going social platforms are like you're going to like vertical videos or you're going to like vertical videos or you're going to like vertical videos or you're going to leave this platform and everyone's to leave this platform and everyone's to leave this platform and everyone's like fine give me two years and I'll like fine give me two years and I'll like fine give me two years and I'll start to like it yeah and that's great start to like it yeah and that's great start to like it yeah and that's great for creators not great for users YouTube for creators not great for users YouTube for creators not great for users YouTube has prioritized the users more here has prioritized the users more here has prioritized the users more here which is great but that's why creators which is great but that's why creators which is great but that's why creators have found some challenges that's have found some challenges that's have found some challenges that's interesting okay let's get right back to interesting okay let's get right back to interesting okay let's get right back to the kitchen uh I saw on Instagram that the kitchen uh I saw on Instagram that the kitchen uh I saw on Instagram that you have a ninja you have a ninja you have a ninja creamy that's the real name the ninja creamy that's the real name the ninja creamy that's the real name the ninja creamy what recipes have worked for you creamy what recipes have worked for you creamy what recipes have worked for you you know the ninja creamy oh I know it you know the ninja creamy oh I know it you know the ninja creamy oh I know it ninja creamy you have been proz it here ninja creamy you have been proz it here ninja creamy you have been proz it here in the office and then just recently you in the office and then just recently you in the office and then just recently you posted to Instagram and so now you're posted to Instagram and so now you're posted to Instagram and so now you're taking your your promotions online uh taking your your promotions online uh taking your your promotions online uh it's an ice cream maker yeah food corner it's an ice cream maker yeah food corner it's an ice cream maker yeah food corner so uh Ninja is the manufacturer and like so uh Ninja is the manufacturer and like so uh Ninja is the manufacturer and like the blender company yeah that's them the blender company yeah that's them the blender company yeah that's them yeah now they're a creamy company right yeah now they're a creamy company right yeah now they're a creamy company right so you can really turn anything that you so you can really turn anything that you so you can really turn anything that you want into ice cream so we got this want into ice cream so we got this want into ice cream so we got this because my wife and I have a bit of a because my wife and I have a bit of a because my wife and I have a bit of a habit um addiction compulsion okay uh habit um addiction compulsion okay uh habit um addiction compulsion okay uh ordering Dairy Queen late at night and ordering Dairy Queen late at night and ordering Dairy Queen late at night and thanks to Door Dash you know I can have thanks to Door Dash you know I can have thanks to Door Dash you know I can have a desire press a button and 15 minutes a desire press a button and 15 minutes a desire press a button and 15 minutes later have a blizzard in my hand wow

later have a blizzard in my hand wow later have a blizzard in my hand wow blizz wow blizz is blizz I have it has blizz wow blizz is blizz I have it has blizz wow blizz is blizz I have it has never once occurred to me that Dairy never once occurred to me that Dairy never once occurred to me that Dairy Queen could be Queen could be Queen could be available uh to be delivered yeah I mean available uh to be delivered yeah I mean available uh to be delivered yeah I mean you live like 30 seconds from the Dairy you live like 30 seconds from the Dairy you live like 30 seconds from the Dairy Queen that delivers to my house and if I Queen that delivers to my house and if I Queen that delivers to my house and if I was going to Dairy Queen I would be a was going to Dairy Queen I would be a was going to Dairy Queen I would be a dipped cone kind of guy so it's probably dipped cone kind of guy so it's probably dipped cone kind of guy so it's probably not like a delivery type no they do that not like a delivery type no they do that not like a delivery type no they do that but like a blizzard that's seen that but like a blizzard that's seen that but like a blizzard that's seen that they have a confetti dipped cone this they have a confetti dipped cone this they have a confetti dipped cone this year like a birthday cake dip oh I'm year like a birthday cake dip oh I'm year like a birthday cake dip oh I'm going to I'm going to double dip you going to I'm going to double dip you going to I'm going to double dip you ever double dipped you can ask for a ever double dipped you can ask for a ever double dipped you can ask for a double dip I didn't know was an option double dip I didn't know was an option double dip I didn't know was an option oh yeah Justin for like an up charge oh yeah Justin for like an up charge oh yeah Justin for like an up charge probably probably probably yeah wow so I got it because I was like yeah wow so I got it because I was like yeah wow so I got it because I was like okay if we can take this ice okay if we can take this ice okay if we can take this ice cream compulsion and bring it into a I'm cream compulsion and bring it into a I'm cream compulsion and bring it into a I'm not going to say healthier but better not going to say healthier but better not going to say healthier but better macros world macros world macros world and health yeah I was like great so I and health yeah I was like great so I and health yeah I was like great so I found all these recipes and they were found all these recipes and they were found all these recipes and they were outstanding so it's like you know 225 Ms outstanding so it's like you know 225 Ms outstanding so it's like you know 225 Ms of fair life milk which is this Ultra of fair life milk which is this Ultra of fair life milk which is this Ultra filtered type of milk where basically filtered type of milk where basically filtered type of milk where basically they disassemble the entire milk they disassemble the entire milk they disassemble the entire milk molecule and they're like okay now we molecule and they're like okay now we molecule and they're like okay now we have fat and we have like Dairy goo and have fat and we have like Dairy goo and have fat and we have like Dairy goo and we have uh protein and we have okay we have uh protein and we have okay we have uh protein and we have okay we're just going to get rid of the goo we're just going to get rid of the goo we're just going to get rid of the goo and the fat and then do that with a and the fat and then do that with a and the fat and then do that with a million molecules and now you have high million molecules and now you have high million molecules and now you have high protein milk but there's no lactose okay protein milk but there's no lactose okay protein milk but there's no lactose okay great amazing and then like 225 mil of great amazing and then like 225 mil of great amazing and then like 225 mil of like uh almond milk so that's no like uh almond milk so that's no like uh almond milk so that's no calories then a scoop of protein a calories then a scoop of protein a calories then a scoop of protein a little bit of stevia some salt mix it up little bit of stevia some salt mix it up little bit of stevia some salt mix it up now you got like this beautiful vanilla now you got like this beautiful vanilla now you got like this beautiful vanilla base and you whip it up and then you put

base and you whip it up and then you put base and you whip it up and then you put in some mixin so what what do you want in some mixin so what what do you want in some mixin so what what do you want what do you want to take that vanilla what do you want to take that vanilla what do you want to take that vanilla base and make it into was it mango last base and make it into was it mango last base and make it into was it mango last night well I'll get to there don't get night well I'll get to there don't get night well I'll get to there don't get ahead of the story sorry so Brit wants ahead of the story sorry so Brit wants ahead of the story sorry so Brit wants the Reese's Pieces in there we mix it up the Reese's Pieces in there we mix it up the Reese's Pieces in there we mix it up it has a mix in function so you finish it has a mix in function so you finish it has a mix in function so you finish whipping the ice cream and then you put whipping the ice cream and then you put whipping the ice cream and then you put the stuff in and you mix it pulverizing the stuff in and you mix it pulverizing the stuff in and you mix it pulverizing pieces uh Biscoff was a great flavor put pieces uh Biscoff was a great flavor put pieces uh Biscoff was a great flavor put in two Biscoff cookies 15 G of that in two Biscoff cookies 15 G of that in two Biscoff cookies 15 G of that Biscoff butter love it I made a birthday Biscoff butter love it I made a birthday Biscoff butter love it I made a birthday cake version where I got this like cake version where I got this like cake version where I got this like birthday cake like eye dropper it was birthday cake like eye dropper it was birthday cake like eye dropper it was just like concentrated birthday cake just like concentrated birthday cake just like concentrated birthday cake flavor put like three of those in there flavor put like three of those in there flavor put like three of those in there that was very good we're straying we're that was very good we're straying we're that was very good we're straying we're straying from the the healthy uh place straying from the the healthy uh place straying from the the healthy uh place that we once began what are you talking that we once began what are you talking that we once began what are you talking about that's zero calorie artificial about that's zero calorie artificial about that's zero calorie artificial flavoring that's just like yellow batter flavoring that's just like yellow batter flavoring that's just like yellow batter dye number seven that's good for you dye number seven that's good for you dye number seven that's good for you what about have you mixed in any coffee what about have you mixed in any coffee what about have you mixed in any coffee no because I can't I'm caffeine no because I can't I'm caffeine no because I can't I'm caffeine sensitive unlike yourself who's just sensitive unlike yourself who's just sensitive unlike yourself who's just obliterated his caffeine sensitivity and obliterated his caffeine sensitivity and obliterated his caffeine sensitivity and now doesn't get any Rush Oh it's not a now doesn't get any Rush Oh it's not a now doesn't get any Rush Oh it's not a late night snack for you right I could late night snack for you right I could late night snack for you right I could not you do coffee ice cream in the not you do coffee ice cream in the not you do coffee ice cream in the morning if I have a diet soda it's the morning if I have a diet soda it's the morning if I have a diet soda it's the caffeine-free one because I can't even caffeine-free one because I can't even caffeine-free one because I can't even handle that uh once a week I go see handle that uh once a week I go see handle that uh once a week I go see Justin at Starbucks and I have a coffee Justin at Starbucks and I have a coffee Justin at Starbucks and I have a coffee at 4 and I feel super humid that day at 4 and I feel super humid that day at 4 and I feel super humid that day yeah but that only that day yeah and yeah but that only that day yeah and yeah but that only that day yeah and then I tried an Oreo one and then I tried an Oreo one and then I tried an Oreo one and then tumbly started feeling a little then tumbly started feeling a little then tumbly started feeling a little bumbly yeah and this has always been my bumbly yeah and this has always been my bumbly yeah and this has always been my problem is that I cannot do protein problem is that I cannot do protein problem is that I cannot do protein powder so I I didn't know that about you powder so I I didn't know that about you powder so I I didn't know that about you no because it's all way and it's just no because it's all way and it's just no because it's all way and it's just all like milk stuff and you have you you all like milk stuff and you have you you all like milk stuff and you have you you have any interest in doing like pea

have any interest in doing like pea have any interest in doing like pea protein or like something like that I protein or like something like that I protein or like something like that I have tried every single type of protein have tried every single type of protein have tried every single type of protein except for one I have tried pee I have except for one I have tried pee I have except for one I have tried pee I have tried vegan I have tried cassine I have tried vegan I have tried cassine I have tried vegan I have tried cassine I have tried whey I have tried um potato I have tried whey I have tried um potato I have tried whey I have tried um potato I have tried like anything that you can tried like anything that you can tried like anything that you can pulverize into a protein I've tried it pulverize into a protein I've tried it pulverize into a protein I've tried it except for one and I was waiting for it except for one and I was waiting for it except for one and I was waiting for it in the M so I used we to basically work in the M so I used we to basically work in the M so I used we to basically work out these recipes and they were awesome out these recipes and they were awesome out these recipes and they were awesome like these macros are crazy you're doing like these macros are crazy you're doing like these macros are crazy you're doing 300 calories and 40 protein and it's 300 calories and 40 protein and it's 300 calories and 40 protein and it's like ice cream it's just ice cream it's like ice cream it's just ice cream it's like ice cream it's just ice cream it's wild the protein is from this company wild the protein is from this company wild the protein is from this company called equip Foods I'm trying I'm trying called equip Foods I'm trying I'm trying called equip Foods I'm trying I'm trying to Rack my brain for what it could be to Rack my brain for what it could be to Rack my brain for what it could be it's grass-fed it's grass-fed it's grass-fed beef yeah that tracks there is an beef yeah that tracks there is an beef yeah that tracks there is an unflavored option how is that possible unflavored option how is that possible unflavored option how is that possible it is one ingredient it's just grass-fed it is one ingredient it's just grass-fed it is one ingredient it's just grass-fed beef wow there are vanilla and chocolate beef wow there are vanilla and chocolate beef wow there are vanilla and chocolate options but the but the the neutral options but the but the the neutral options but the but the the neutral option it's got no detectable option it's got no detectable option it's got no detectable flavor they claim right and it had more flavor they claim right and it had more flavor they claim right and it had more than 3,000 F star reviews wow and than 3,000 F star reviews wow and than 3,000 F star reviews wow and everyone was like finally my tummy isn't everyone was like finally my tummy isn't everyone was like finally my tummy isn't obliterated and I was like this is the obliterated and I was like this is the obliterated and I was like this is the Messiah of proteins yes so I get it I Messiah of proteins yes so I get it I Messiah of proteins yes so I get it I whip up an ice cream and I'm like oh whip up an ice cream and I'm like oh whip up an ice cream and I'm like oh okay tastes like okay tastes like okay tastes like beef a little beefy yeah not not really beef a little beefy yeah not not really beef a little beefy yeah not not really working like you know their flavors are working like you know their flavors are working like you know their flavors are kind of fighting each other you know I kind of fighting each other you know I kind of fighting each other you know I Stevia and Stevia and Stevia and beef beia I don't know so then I get the beef beia I don't know so then I get the beef beia I don't know so then I get the vanilla flavor and I put it in and it vanilla flavor and I put it in and it vanilla flavor and I put it in and it was like okay this pretty good and then

was like okay this pretty good and then was like okay this pretty good and then this is what happens every time I don't this is what happens every time I don't this is what happens every time I don't know how to explain this it's like my know how to explain this it's like my know how to explain this it's like my body lost the appetite for eating this body lost the appetite for eating this body lost the appetite for eating this ice cream I could taste it and I was ice cream I could taste it and I was ice cream I could taste it and I was like this tastes like ice cream my body like this tastes like ice cream my body like this tastes like ice cream my body is like yeah you're trying to play God is like yeah you're trying to play God is like yeah you're trying to play God you've tried it before this is not real you've tried it before this is not real you've tried it before this is not real we know it's not real so guess what what we know it's not real so guess what what we know it's not real so guess what what we're going to turn off your appetite we're going to turn off your appetite we're going to turn off your appetite for it and I was like but it's biscu for it and I was like but it's biscu for it and I was like but it's biscu they're like you don't like that anymore they're like you don't like that anymore they're like you don't like that anymore and I was like dang it so my body just and I was like dang it so my body just and I was like dang it so my body just says no thankfully there is a backup says no thankfully there is a backup says no thankfully there is a backup option and that protein is just making option and that protein is just making option and that protein is just making some not high protein like just a little some not high protein like just a little some not high protein like just a little treat but sugar and calories are treat but sugar and calories are treat but sugar and calories are objectively lower than that's right and objectively lower than that's right and objectively lower than that's right and fat lower than what would you'd get at fat lower than what would you'd get at fat lower than what would you'd get at the store precisely so that's what I the store precisely so that's what I the store precisely so that's what I made last night took a can of mangoes in made last night took a can of mangoes in made last night took a can of mangoes in a light syrup poured it into the creamy a light syrup poured it into the creamy a light syrup poured it into the creamy froze it for 24 hours I I did I did put froze it for 24 hours I I did I did put froze it for 24 hours I I did I did put in five a teaspoon of stevia as well in five a teaspoon of stevia as well in five a teaspoon of stevia as well because what's sweet in liquid is less because what's sweet in liquid is less because what's sweet in liquid is less sweet when it's frozen okay so you have sweet when it's frozen okay so you have sweet when it's frozen okay so you have to like extra sweeten it up whipped it to like extra sweeten it up whipped it to like extra sweeten it up whipped it up had like a pound of mango sorbet it up had like a pound of mango sorbet it up had like a pound of mango sorbet it was just delightful love it so I got a was just delightful love it so I got a was just delightful love it so I got a pineapple in there I've got pineapple in there I've got pineapple in there I've got uh peach in there and I've got uh uh peach in there and I've got uh uh peach in there and I've got uh Tangerine in there so I'm going to try Tangerine in there so I'm going to try Tangerine in there so I'm going to try those ones as well and hopefully that those ones as well and hopefully that those ones as well and hopefully that will be an option otherwise this ninja will be an option otherwise this ninja will be an option otherwise this ninja creamy which also obliterated my wife's creamy which also obliterated my wife's creamy which also obliterated my wife's t as well yeah uh it's going to be going t as well yeah uh it's going to be going t as well yeah uh it's going to be going to be a bust so that's how that's how to be a bust so that's how that's how to be a bust so that's how that's how we're doing wow wow it was too good to we're doing wow wow it was too good to we're doing wow wow it was too good to be be be true but but not for most people it true but but not for most people it true but but not for most people it seems like if you can handle way you can seems like if you can handle way you can seems like if you can handle way you can just like you can play God and make

just like you can play God and make just like you can play God and make whatever you want and by play God I whatever you want and by play God I whatever you want and by play God I don't mean like oh you got played I mean don't mean like oh you got played I mean don't mean like oh you got played I mean like I am God and I am going to make like I am God and I am going to make like I am God and I am going to make food out of ingredients and molecules food out of ingredients and molecules food out of ingredients and molecules that should not exist like I am going to that should not exist like I am going to that should not exist like I am going to make low calorie high protein ice cream make low calorie high protein ice cream make low calorie high protein ice cream no no it should be no that doesn't work no no it should be no that doesn't work no no it should be no that doesn't work hey hey hey hey hey hey we have we we have the molecules we have we we have the molecules we have we we have the molecules wow I'm looking forward I've heard a lot wow I'm looking forward I've heard a lot wow I'm looking forward I've heard a lot about the creamy and haven't tasted it about the creamy and haven't tasted it about the creamy and haven't tasted it yet looking forward to it I'll try the yet looking forward to it I'll try the yet looking forward to it I'll try the beef beef beef one now what am I going to do with all one now what am I going to do with all one now what am I going to do with all this Savory ice cream uh okay stepping this Savory ice cream uh okay stepping this Savory ice cream uh okay stepping out of the kitchen hey Bra I love your out of the kitchen hey Bra I love your out of the kitchen hey Bra I love your content and the wisdom you share around content and the wisdom you share around content and the wisdom you share around social media it's always so spoton I'm social media it's always so spoton I'm social media it's always so spoton I'm writing you to get some advice I create writing you to get some advice I create writing you to get some advice I create content for a Christian School who sees content for a Christian School who sees content for a Christian School who sees social media as a platform for religious social media as a platform for religious social media as a platform for religious advocacy i' I have been asked by the advocacy i' I have been asked by the advocacy i' I have been asked by the company who owns a school to put company who owns a school to put company who owns a school to put together a language policy and I feel together a language policy and I feel together a language policy and I feel that just because they are a Christian that just because they are a Christian that just because they are a Christian School that doesn't mean they should be School that doesn't mean they should be School that doesn't mean they should be pushing the Christian agenda before pushing the Christian agenda before pushing the Christian agenda before their educational purpose I would love their educational purpose I would love their educational purpose I would love some input if at all possible and would some input if at all possible and would some input if at all possible and would like to encourage them to share their like to encourage them to share their like to encourage them to share their values rather than their beliefs and to values rather than their beliefs and to values rather than their beliefs and to avoid triggering language and word usage avoid triggering language and word usage avoid triggering language and word usage usage such as Sin and repentance that usage such as Sin and repentance that usage such as Sin and repentance that could alienate members of our diverse could alienate members of our diverse could alienate members of our diverse Christian audience or even trigger Christian audience or even trigger Christian audience or even trigger debate thank you in advance yeah so I've debate thank you in advance yeah so I've debate thank you in advance yeah so I've given this question a lot of thought and given this question a lot of thought and given this question a lot of thought and I'm trying to understand where this I'm trying to understand where this I'm trying to understand where this person is coming from because at the end person is coming from because at the end person is coming from because at the end they say I don't want to use words like they say I don't want to use words like they say I don't want to use words like sin and repentance that could alienate sin and repentance that could alienate sin and repentance that could alienate members of our diverse Christian members of our diverse Christian members of our diverse Christian audience so I'm just not sure the audience so I'm just not sure the audience so I'm just not sure the context of using that type of stuff that

context of using that type of stuff that context of using that type of stuff that it would like trigger a Christian it would like trigger a Christian it would like trigger a Christian audience um it could be talking it could audience um it could be talking it could audience um it could be talking it could be like touching on cultural be like touching on cultural be like touching on cultural Christianity a bit knowing that like Christianity a bit knowing that like Christianity a bit knowing that like maybe the folks who who follow their maybe the folks who who follow their maybe the folks who who follow their content online are cultural Christians content online are cultural Christians content online are cultural Christians which are are are is an altogether which are are are is an altogether which are are are is an altogether different thing from like a Christian different thing from like a Christian different thing from like a Christian who follows Jesus sure um just becoming who follows Jesus sure um just becoming who follows Jesus sure um just becoming incre increasingly more popular for a incre increasingly more popular for a incre increasingly more popular for a great example um uh Dawkins just came great example um uh Dawkins just came great example um uh Dawkins just came out recently and and confessed like oh out recently and and confessed like oh out recently and and confessed like oh yeah I'm a cultural Christian like I I yeah I'm a cultural Christian like I I yeah I'm a cultural Christian like I I love Christmas I love all these cultural love Christmas I love all these cultural love Christmas I love all these cultural things about Christianity that like add things about Christianity that like add things about Christianity that like add a lot of things to my life but like I a lot of things to my life but like I a lot of things to my life but like I don't believe that Jesus was the son of don't believe that Jesus was the son of don't believe that Jesus was the son of God or or you know resurrected from the God or or you know resurrected from the God or or you know resurrected from the dead um so it could be talking about dead um so it could be talking about dead um so it could be talking about that a little bit um this is like that a little bit um this is like that a little bit um this is like getting into Elevation Church territory getting into Elevation Church territory getting into Elevation Church territory you know not wanting to use uh certain you know not wanting to use uh certain you know not wanting to use uh certain languages uh certain language to avoid languages uh certain language to avoid languages uh certain language to avoid uh triggering certain audience um so uh triggering certain audience um so uh triggering certain audience um so quite the question to attempt to tackle quite the question to attempt to tackle quite the question to attempt to tackle here so the first thing that I wrote here so the first thing that I wrote here so the first thing that I wrote down is what is the mission of this down is what is the mission of this down is what is the mission of this school and how is it different from a school and how is it different from a school and how is it different from a secular school because my first thought secular school because my first thought secular school because my first thought was okay the Christian schools that I um was okay the Christian schools that I um was okay the Christian schools that I um grew up around my sister went to one grew up around my sister went to one grew up around my sister went to one very briefly I only went to public very briefly I only went to public very briefly I only went to public school but like they're like hey we do school but like they're like hey we do school but like they're like hey we do the same schooling but with an empis on the same schooling but with an empis on the same schooling but with an empis on the Christian faith right so then it the Christian faith right so then it the Christian faith right so then it would be strange if that was absent from would be strange if that was absent from would be strange if that was absent from the social media content because that is the social media content because that is the social media content because that is the the the distinctive for a comparison if there distinctive for a comparison if there distinctive for a comparison if there was a certain school as there are in the was a certain school as there are in the was a certain school as there are in the states that have like an emphasis on

states that have like an emphasis on states that have like an emphasis on certain Athletics oh you know if you certain Athletics oh you know if you certain Athletics oh you know if you have a son who's like really good at have a son who's like really good at have a son who's like really good at swimming or a daughter that's really swimming or a daughter that's really swimming or a daughter that's really good at swimming like and you can like good at swimming like and you can like good at swimming like and you can like this is the school you want to get them this is the school you want to get them this is the school you want to get them into right why because like they will into right why because like they will into right why because like they will give the opportunities that you want give the opportunities that you want give the opportunities that you want plus the school you have to do school plus the school you have to do school plus the school you have to do school school is like it's the common school is like it's the common school is like it's the common denominator yeah so then like what do denominator yeah so then like what do denominator yeah so then like what do you want to emphasize on top of that and you want to emphasize on top of that and you want to emphasize on top of that and it would be strange if like that school it would be strange if like that school it would be strange if like that school like hid the fact that they're like yeah like hid the fact that they're like yeah like hid the fact that they're like yeah like we're the swimming school right like we're the swimming school right like we're the swimming school right we're great at that that's that's the we're great at that that's that's the we're great at that that's that's the point that's that's not the bug it's the point that's that's not the bug it's the point that's that's not the bug it's the feature MH and of course people like feature MH and of course people like feature MH and of course people like well well well now you want to use well well well now you want to use well well well now you want to use language that's Christian on a public language that's Christian on a public language that's Christian on a public facing page but you didn't with facing page but you didn't with facing page but you didn't with elevation we've caught you you're caught elevation we've caught you you're caught elevation we've caught you you're caught in the act it's like okay no let's take in the act it's like okay no let's take in the act it's like okay no let's take take a step back and remember that all take a step back and remember that all take a step back and remember that all things are contextual the reason that things are contextual the reason that things are contextual the reason that elevation claimed they did not want to elevation claimed they did not want to elevation claimed they did not want to use words like Resurrection in their use words like Resurrection in their use words like Resurrection in their Easter invites is because that Easter Easter invites is because that Easter Easter invites is because that Easter invite to a person that's not of Faith invite to a person that's not of Faith invite to a person that's not of Faith would potentially in their view be would potentially in their view be would potentially in their view be distancing and would be foreign and distancing and would be foreign and distancing and would be foreign and would not make sense to them and so like would not make sense to them and so like would not make sense to them and so like they want to talk to them about those they want to talk to them about those they want to talk to them about those things but they need to do it in the things but they need to do it in the things but they need to do it in the right place time and place and let's say right place time and place and let's say right place time and place and let's say a person did come and they're like this a person did come and they're like this a person did come and they're like this is not for me okay it was an hour on a is not for me okay it was an hour on a is not for me okay it was an hour on a Sunday you went with the friend you Sunday you went with the friend you Sunday you went with the friend you didn't go back MH okay that is very didn't go back MH okay that is very didn't go back MH okay that is very distinct from a school that is trying to distinct from a school that is trying to distinct from a school that is trying to get money in large sums from presumably get money in large sums from presumably get money in large sums from presumably Christian families to send their kids to Christian families to send their kids to Christian families to send their kids to Christian schools for many many years Christian schools for many many years Christian schools for many many years there's like a big evaluation there and there's like a big evaluation there and there's like a big evaluation there and so it did seem like a bit of a so it did seem like a bit of a so it did seem like a bit of a disconnect it's like hey here's what we

disconnect it's like hey here's what we disconnect it's like hey here's what we do we don't want to talk about it um to do we don't want to talk about it um to do we don't want to talk about it um to the audience that would want us to talk the audience that would want us to talk the audience that would want us to talk about it which is distinct from like about it which is distinct from like about it which is distinct from like making an Easter invite to somebody that making an Easter invite to somebody that making an Easter invite to somebody that has no background in Christian faith has no background in Christian faith has no background in Christian faith whatsoever whatsoever whatsoever that being said you make a good point that being said you make a good point that being said you make a good point maybe this school is like well yeah maybe this school is like well yeah maybe this school is like well yeah we're a Christian school but what that we're a Christian school but what that we're a Christian school but what that means is it's kind of code for like we means is it's kind of code for like we means is it's kind of code for like we believe in prayer in schools and we believe in prayer in schools and we believe in prayer in schools and we believe in supporting um all believe in supporting um all believe in supporting um all anti-abortion laws and we believe like anti-abortion laws and we believe like anti-abortion laws and we believe like if you come here you're a conservative if you come here you're a conservative if you come here you're a conservative and you kind of know that you're a and you kind of know that you're a and you kind of know that you're a conservative when you come here like hey conservative when you come here like hey conservative when you come here like hey Republicans go to the school Republicans Republicans go to the school Republicans Republicans go to the school Republicans teach at this school it's just code for teach at this school it's just code for teach at this school it's just code for like a certain wing of culture in that like a certain wing of culture in that like a certain wing of culture in that case that completely went pass me cuz I case that completely went pass me cuz I case that completely went pass me cuz I was like oh Christian School must be was like oh Christian School must be was like oh Christian School must be Christian but I kind of forget how like Christian but I kind of forget how like Christian but I kind of forget how like the word Christian as we talked about the word Christian as we talked about the word Christian as we talked about with Ryan Burge in a previous episode in with Ryan Burge in a previous episode in with Ryan Burge in a previous episode in the states is often used not to mean the states is often used not to mean the states is often used not to mean follower of Jesus but to mean this follower of Jesus but to mean this follower of Jesus but to mean this specific sect of political ideology in specific sect of political ideology in specific sect of political ideology in that case then yeah probably talking that case then yeah probably talking that case then yeah probably talking about Sin and repentance would it about Sin and repentance would it about Sin and repentance would it because you're using the term because you're using the term because you're using the term differently but I mean if it was me i' differently but I mean if it was me i' differently but I mean if it was me i' be like yeah we should talk about things be like yeah we should talk about things be like yeah we should talk about things but then also it's how we talk about but then also it's how we talk about but then also it's how we talk about things like how are we saying things things like how are we saying things things like how are we saying things like when I think about a Christian like when I think about a Christian like when I think about a Christian School I think about okay this is a School I think about okay this is a School I think about okay this is a formative period for your kids we want formative period for your kids we want formative period for your kids we want them to know that they are loved and them to know that they are loved and them to know that they are loved and that they have a great future ahead of that they have a great future ahead of that they have a great future ahead of them and the reason is because they were them and the reason is because they were them and the reason is because they were designed by Jesus and they're made in designed by Jesus and they're made in designed by Jesus and they're made in the image of God which is very different the image of God which is very different the image of God which is very different from like we need them to know when from like we need them to know when from like we need them to know when they're being formed that they are like they're being formed that they are like they're being formed that they are like worthless and they need to say this

worthless and they need to say this worthless and they need to say this prayer and they need to dedicate their prayer and they need to dedicate their prayer and they need to dedicate their lives to God because we know once they lives to God because we know once they lives to God because we know once they leave this school they might go to uh leave this school they might go to uh leave this school they might go to uh liberal school and they might learn that liberal school and they might learn that liberal school and they might learn that there are other worldviews and they there are other worldviews and they there are other worldviews and they might like never come back to the the might like never come back to the the might like never come back to the the faith and so we need to like for like faith and so we need to like for like faith and so we need to like for like yes you want people to claim Jesus but yes you want people to claim Jesus but yes you want people to claim Jesus but like is are you doing it which like is are you doing it which like is are you doing it which motivation is is underlying there and so motivation is is underlying there and so motivation is is underlying there and so maybe this person who asked the question maybe this person who asked the question maybe this person who asked the question was seeing the motivation and it was was seeing the motivation and it was was seeing the motivation and it was kind of like a gross ugly dark like dark kind of like a gross ugly dark like dark kind of like a gross ugly dark like dark motivation not like a hopeful one that motivation not like a hopeful one that motivation not like a hopeful one that was like birth like yeah like hope in was like birth like yeah like hope in was like birth like yeah like hope in Jesus and love and Jesus yeah I mean Jesus and love and Jesus yeah I mean Jesus and love and Jesus yeah I mean there's even one more angle that that there's even one more angle that that there's even one more angle that that I'm seeing in this question they they I'm seeing in this question they they I'm seeing in this question they they mentioned that once but twice like the mentioned that once but twice like the mentioned that once but twice like the possibility of talking about these um possibility of talking about these um possibility of talking about these um this or or taking a position of this or or taking a position of this or or taking a position of religious advocacy through social religious advocacy through social religious advocacy through social through the school could Inspire um like through the school could Inspire um like through the school could Inspire um like some some debate or some some triggering some some debate or some some triggering some some debate or some some triggering in the comment section and so they in the comment section and so they in the comment section and so they mentioned that twice and another angle I mentioned that twice and another angle I mentioned that twice and another angle I guess that could be considered because guess that could be considered because guess that could be considered because we don't have the opportunity to like to we don't have the opportunity to like to we don't have the opportunity to like to chat with this person uh voice to voice chat with this person uh voice to voice chat with this person uh voice to voice and and hear them a little bit more and and hear them a little bit more and and hear them a little bit more beyond what they wrote To Us is like beyond what they wrote To Us is like beyond what they wrote To Us is like maybe they're just hesitant maybe they're just hesitant maybe they're just hesitant to engage in that type of conversation to engage in that type of conversation to engage in that type of conversation in the comment section because it's in the comment section because it's in the comment section because it's really hard and maybe they don't have really hard and maybe they don't have really hard and maybe they don't have like any experience doing that and so like any experience doing that and so like any experience doing that and so they're like scared of like I don't know they're like scared of like I don't know they're like scared of like I don't know how to handle the type of comment that how to handle the type of comment that how to handle the type of comment that this type of content could Inspire and this type of content could Inspire and this type of content could Inspire and so a solution to that would be like oh so a solution to that would be like oh so a solution to that would be like oh well just maybe some like media like

well just maybe some like media like well just maybe some like media like literacy training or like even some literacy training or like even some literacy training or like even some pastoral training to be able to if we pastoral training to be able to if we pastoral training to be able to if we are going to post this type of content are going to post this type of content are going to post this type of content to our social account knowing that it is to our social account knowing that it is to our social account knowing that it is going to trigger a certain measure of going to trigger a certain measure of going to trigger a certain measure of like debate or response in the comment like debate or response in the comment like debate or response in the comment section how do I feel equipped as a section how do I feel equipped as a section how do I feel equipped as a social media manager to navigate these social media manager to navigate these social media manager to navigate these these conversations in the comment these conversations in the comment these conversations in the comment section without just like deleting them section without just like deleting them section without just like deleting them or ignoring them because that's not a or ignoring them because that's not a or ignoring them because that's not a great posture to have um as a social great posture to have um as a social great posture to have um as a social account online but if we are going to account online but if we are going to account online but if we are going to open this up to conversation um how do I open this up to conversation um how do I open this up to conversation um how do I get equipped to be able to navigate that get equipped to be able to navigate that get equipped to be able to navigate that and navigate it well in a way that like and navigate it well in a way that like and navigate it well in a way that like when I come to work every day as a when I come to work every day as a when I come to work every day as a social media manager for school I don't social media manager for school I don't social media manager for school I don't feel like just anxious about looking at feel like just anxious about looking at feel like just anxious about looking at the comment section and you know that the comment section and you know that the comment section and you know that makes me think it might also just be a makes me think it might also just be a makes me think it might also just be a simple what we were talking about simple what we were talking about simple what we were talking about earlier I'm imagining a post where earlier I'm imagining a post where earlier I'm imagining a post where there's like you know two uh girl there's like you know two uh girl there's like you know two uh girl students you know like two eighth students you know like two eighth students you know like two eighth graders and they're smiling and it's graders and they're smiling and it's graders and they're smiling and it's like and the comment's like you know oh like and the comment's like you know oh like and the comment's like you know oh at Unity Christian School you know a at Unity Christian School you know a at Unity Christian School you know a future doctor future lawyer future future doctor future lawyer future future doctor future lawyer future Pastor the options are endless no Pastor the options are endless no Pastor the options are endless no they're not comment number one because they're not comment number one because they're not comment number one because women can't be pastors and then someone women can't be pastors and then someone women can't be pastors and then someone else is like what are you talking about else is like what are you talking about else is like what are you talking about I send my kid to this Christian School I send my kid to this Christian School I send my kid to this Christian School of course they can be a pastor well you of course they can be a pastor well you of course they can be a pastor well you must not be a Christian then now you got must not be a Christian then now you got must not be a Christian then now you got the family is fighting and maybe that's the family is fighting and maybe that's the family is fighting and maybe that's what she means by diverse like hey we what she means by diverse like hey we what she means by diverse like hey we need to like dial this back and keep it need to like dial this back and keep it need to like dial this back and keep it real vanilla what time and place this is real vanilla what time and place this is real vanilla what time and place this is not the time and place if anything this not the time and place if anything this not the time and place if anything this is going to sew pun intended disunity at is going to sew pun intended disunity at is going to sew pun intended disunity at Unity Christian School amongst the Unity Christian School amongst the Unity Christian School amongst the parents who are all very much aware of parents who are all very much aware of parents who are all very much aware of each other more than a public school each other more than a public school each other more than a public school because hey attendance is probably because hey attendance is probably because hey attendance is probably smaller here enrollment is smaller and

smaller here enrollment is smaller and smaller here enrollment is smaller and and for that reason that I understand so and for that reason that I understand so and for that reason that I understand so many potential things here hopefully many potential things here hopefully many potential things here hopefully something we said is insightful because something we said is insightful because something we said is insightful because she did say you know you're always she did say you know you're always she did say you know you're always giving great advice I are we and if we didn't feel free to write us and if we didn't feel free to write us again email us and we can we could talk again email us and we can we could talk again email us and we can we could talk through this uh via email too as well through this uh via email too as well through this uh via email too as well yes that's true um next question what yes that's true um next question what yes that's true um next question what are the fashion trends you're rocking are the fashion trends you're rocking are the fashion trends you're rocking for warm weather this year okay so uh for warm weather this year okay so uh for warm weather this year okay so uh where is the warm weather at by the way where is the warm weather at by the way where is the warm weather at by the way well not today yeah well listen this is well not today yeah well listen this is well not today yeah well listen this is what happens when you record the May what happens when you record the May what happens when you record the May mailbag at the end of April like idiots mailbag at the end of April like idiots mailbag at the end of April like idiots uh stack shirts is the first one so uh stack shirts is the first one so uh stack shirts is the first one so imagine a long sleeve Te You Came imagine a long sleeve Te You Came imagine a long sleeve Te You Came prepared this is a different one that's prepared this is a different one that's prepared this is a different one that's not what I mean but I will get to this not what I mean but I will get to this not what I mean but I will get to this one I thought I thought that's stacked one I thought I thought that's stacked one I thought I thought that's stacked to me you've got two shirts going no I'm to me you've got two shirts going no I'm to me you've got two shirts going no I'm talking about you're wearing a long talking about you're wearing a long talking about you're wearing a long sleeve tea right now yes now imagine a sleeve tea right now yes now imagine a sleeve tea right now yes now imagine a tea on top of that what is it tea on top of that what is it tea on top of that what is it 1999 we're doing this again we are doing 1999 we're doing this again we are doing 1999 we're doing this again we are doing this again okay okay okay okay I see this again okay okay okay okay I see this again okay okay okay okay I see your stack teas and I raise you no we're your stack teas and I raise you no we're your stack teas and I raise you no we're not doing that the single shirt that not doing that the single shirt that not doing that the single shirt that appears to be a snack te oh no no that appears to be a snack te oh no no that appears to be a snack te oh no no that is the one that the one I got yeah yeah is the one that the one I got yeah yeah is the one that the one I got yeah yeah that's the one I got I wasn't talking that's the one I got I wasn't talking that's the one I got I wasn't talking about stacked polos we're never that's about stacked polos we're never that's about stacked polos we're never that's what I thought poos again no no no what I thought poos again no no no what I thought poos again no no no that's what I it looks like two shirts that's what I it looks like two shirts that's what I it looks like two shirts but it's one well I tried it with a long but it's one well I tried it with a long but it's one well I tried it with a long sleeve tea and a real tea and then it sleeve tea and a real tea and then it sleeve tea and a real tea and then it gets all Bunchy it's too heavy so I got gets all Bunchy it's too heavy so I got gets all Bunchy it's too heavy so I got it oh what was the brand oh what's it it oh what was the brand oh what's it it oh what was the brand oh what's it called it's a it's a brand from ja Japan

called it's a it's a brand from ja Japan called it's a it's a brand from ja Japan it's a Japanese brand it's not it's not it's a Japanese brand it's not it's not it's a Japanese brand it's not it's not hollower it's not H and I got it and I hollower it's not H and I got it and I hollower it's not H and I got it and I wore I was like oh yeah this is awesome wore I was like oh yeah this is awesome wore I was like oh yeah this is awesome it's the shirt that I posted posted on it's the shirt that I posted posted on it's the shirt that I posted posted on Instagram I had two different colors Instagram I had two different colors Instagram I had two different colors there was like the brown one and the there was like the brown one and the there was like the brown one and the blue one that was one shirt but okay so blue one that was one shirt but okay so blue one that was one shirt but okay so you get the look but you don't get the you get the look but you don't get the you get the look but you don't get the discomfort the question is about warm discomfort the question is about warm discomfort the question is about warm weather you can't wear you can't be weather you can't wear you can't be weather you can't wear you can't be wearing two shirts that's perfect for wearing two shirts that's perfect for wearing two shirts that's perfect for right now like I'm not wearing a t-shirt right now like I'm not wearing a t-shirt right now like I'm not wearing a t-shirt just yet but I don't want to wear just yet but I don't want to wear just yet but I don't want to wear something heavy yeah wow love it I love something heavy yeah wow love it I love something heavy yeah wow love it I love it we have loved it we're loving it it we have loved it we're loving it it we have loved it we're loving it again again the '90s are back you will again again the '90s are back you will again again the '90s are back you will see this trend uh the next is rugby see this trend uh the next is rugby see this trend uh the next is rugby jerseys now this is very specific and if jerseys now this is very specific and if jerseys now this is very specific and if you like don't have a really strong base you like don't have a really strong base you like don't have a really strong base of outfits like don't get this it's of outfits like don't get this it's of outfits like don't get this it's going to be too specific it's like that going to be too specific it's like that going to be too specific it's like that one time my wife bought cowboy boots one time my wife bought cowboy boots one time my wife bought cowboy boots which you couldn't assemble a regular which you couldn't assemble a regular which you couldn't assemble a regular outfit it's like hey that's a bit much outfit it's like hey that's a bit much outfit it's like hey that's a bit much sure they could work if you had 20 sure they could work if you had 20 sure they could work if you had 20 regular outfits and this was like the regular outfits and this was like the regular outfits and this was like the one different one or horse what's that one different one or horse what's that one different one or horse what's that or if you had a horse if you had a horse or if you had a horse if you had a horse or if you had a horse if you had a horse sure sure that's true um so rugby Jersey sure sure that's true um so rugby Jersey sure sure that's true um so rugby Jersey I got this one from the same Japanese I got this one from the same Japanese I got this one from the same Japanese brand that I'm forgetting again I feel brand that I'm forgetting again I feel brand that I'm forgetting again I feel like they have a number in their name like they have a number in their name like they have a number in their name it's like Bru 78 or something I I'll it's like Bru 78 or something I I'll it's like Bru 78 or something I I'll find it when you're talking and uh it's find it when you're talking and uh it's find it when you're talking and uh it's green it's got these fun green stripes green it's got these fun green stripes green it's got these fun green stripes but it's knit really pretty I like that but it's knit really pretty I like that but it's knit really pretty I like that um pop of color this is a big one if you um pop of color this is a big one if you um pop of color this is a big one if you are the type of person like myself like are the type of person like myself like are the type of person like myself like Alex like my wife who wears a lot of Alex like my wife who wears a lot of Alex like my wife who wears a lot of neutrals one of the easiest ways to neutrals one of the easiest ways to neutrals one of the easiest ways to introduce some color which makes sense introduce some color which makes sense introduce some color which makes sense with the warmer weather is just a pop of with the warmer weather is just a pop of with the warmer weather is just a pop of color so my wife has a bunch of really color so my wife has a bunch of really color so my wife has a bunch of really colorful ball caps so she's got a pink colorful ball caps so she's got a pink colorful ball caps so she's got a pink one she's got a red one she's got a one she's got a red one she's got a one she's got a red one she's got a royal blue one and so she'll wear all of

royal blue one and so she'll wear all of royal blue one and so she'll wear all of her neutrals and then she'll put on like her neutrals and then she'll put on like her neutrals and then she'll put on like this bright colored ball cap now my head this bright colored ball cap now my head this bright colored ball cap now my head is too hat uh my head is too small for is too hat uh my head is too small for is too hat uh my head is too small for hats so I can't really wear hats and hats so I can't really wear hats and hats so I can't really wear hats and mine is too big right uh but if you can mine is too big right uh but if you can mine is too big right uh but if you can this is a great way where is your pop of this is a great way where is your pop of this is a great way where is your pop of color my pop of color right now no no color my pop of color right now no no color my pop of color right now no no just in general like where if it's not a just in general like where if it's not a just in general like where if it's not a hat for you what is it this my green hat for you what is it this my green hat for you what is it this my green rugby Jersey okay it's like neon green rugby Jersey okay it's like neon green rugby Jersey okay it's like neon green stripes which is fun what about shoes stripes which is fun what about shoes stripes which is fun what about shoes how do you feel about the shoes being how do you feel about the shoes being how do you feel about the shoes being the pop of color so again for my wife a the pop of color so again for my wife a the pop of color so again for my wife a great choice she got some pink gazel great choice she got some pink gazel great choice she got some pink gazel Adidas she got some like blue sambas Adidas she got some like blue sambas Adidas she got some like blue sambas great pop of color now I don't like great pop of color now I don't like great pop of color now I don't like being too matchy matchy like she came being too matchy matchy like she came being too matchy matchy like she came down she had a royal blue NY hat on and down she had a royal blue NY hat on and down she had a royal blue NY hat on and her blue gazel and I was like that's a her blue gazel and I was like that's a her blue gazel and I was like that's a little too much too matchy matchy it's little too much too matchy matchy it's little too much too matchy matchy it's obvious okay we don't want to match that obvious okay we don't want to match that obvious okay we don't want to match that perfectly um for me I also got a perfectly um for me I also got a perfectly um for me I also got a cardigan if you remember this cardigan a cardigan if you remember this cardigan a cardigan if you remember this cardigan a little fuzzy cardan it was green with little fuzzy cardan it was green with little fuzzy cardan it was green with some like purple on it that was a pop of some like purple on it that was a pop of some like purple on it that was a pop of color pushing the limits but again that color pushing the limits but again that color pushing the limits but again that was after I had all of my neutrals kind was after I had all of my neutrals kind was after I had all of my neutrals kind of locked down okay here's the good one of locked down okay here's the good one of locked down okay here's the good one I couldn't believe when I read this I I couldn't believe when I read this I I couldn't believe when I read this I couldn't believe it v-neck crew necks couldn't believe it v-neck crew necks couldn't believe it v-neck crew necks not v-neck t-shirts that is not what not v-neck t-shirts that is not what not v-neck t-shirts that is not what we're doing this season but v-neck crew we're doing this season but v-neck crew we're doing this season but v-neck crew necks and if you're watching this on necks and if you're watching this on necks and if you're watching this on YouTube I'm wearing one right now if YouTube I'm wearing one right now if YouTube I'm wearing one right now if you're listening it's very important I you're listening it's very important I you're listening it's very important I make this clear I have a white crispy make this clear I have a white crispy make this clear I have a white crispy tea that's right tea that's right tea that's right underneath the v-neck deep V exposing underneath the v-neck deep V exposing underneath the v-neck deep V exposing your chest hairs and your tattoos right your chest hairs and your tattoos right your chest hairs and your tattoos right no chest hair put a tattoo there instead no chest hair put a tattoo there instead no chest hair put a tattoo there instead couldn't grow the chest hair put the couldn't grow the chest hair put the couldn't grow the chest hair put the tattoo in its place M so you can't see tattoo in its place M so you can't see tattoo in its place M so you can't see any of that it's a pretty high colored any of that it's a pretty high colored any of that it's a pretty high colored white tea v-neck crew neck over top and

white tea v-neck crew neck over top and white tea v-neck crew neck over top and this v-neck it is a knit long sleeve this v-neck it is a knit long sleeve this v-neck it is a knit long sleeve Navy but it's light it's very breathable Navy but it's light it's very breathable Navy but it's light it's very breathable so it's not too heavy for this time of so it's not too heavy for this time of so it's not too heavy for this time of year that's what I was doing with v-neck year that's what I was doing with v-neck year that's what I was doing with v-neck in in 2006 or whatever just a a deep in in 2006 or whatever just a a deep in in 2006 or whatever just a a deep short sleeve v-neck and uh how deep like short sleeve v-neck and uh how deep like short sleeve v-neck and uh how deep like too deep would you call it too deep would you call it too deep would you call it plunging I wouldn't have then but plunging I wouldn't have then but plunging I wouldn't have then but certainly now I would refer to it as certainly now I would refer to it as certainly now I would refer to it as plunging yeah it's just it was not a plunging yeah it's just it was not a plunging yeah it's just it was not a good not a good choice okay um relaxed good not a good choice okay um relaxed good not a good choice okay um relaxed jeans that stack okay so we went from jeans that stack okay so we went from jeans that stack okay so we went from the skinny fit to the slim fit we went the skinny fit to the slim fit we went the skinny fit to the slim fit we went from the slim fit to the straight fit from the slim fit to the straight fit from the slim fit to the straight fit now we're going from the straight fit to now we're going from the straight fit to now we're going from the straight fit to the relaxed fit now we could go from the the relaxed fit now we could go from the the relaxed fit now we could go from the relaxed fit to the baggy fit I'm not relaxed fit to the baggy fit I'm not relaxed fit to the baggy fit I'm not going to go there I'm not going to go going to go there I'm not going to go going to go there I'm not going to go there that's the same as the skinny fit there that's the same as the skinny fit there that's the same as the skinny fit on the other side like we probably on the other side like we probably on the other side like we probably should have stopped at slim skinny should have stopped at slim skinny should have stopped at slim skinny wasn't necessary probably should stop it wasn't necessary probably should stop it wasn't necessary probably should stop it relaxed baggy isn't necessary but I'm relaxed baggy isn't necessary but I'm relaxed baggy isn't necessary but I'm wearing a relaxed pair of denim right wearing a relaxed pair of denim right wearing a relaxed pair of denim right now and the importance is the length so now and the importance is the length so now and the importance is the length so when we were wearing slim jeans now this when we were wearing slim jeans now this when we were wearing slim jeans now this is really important everyone listen to is really important everyone listen to is really important everyone listen to this don't miss this boys ask me oh how this don't miss this boys ask me oh how this don't miss this boys ask me oh how do I dress don't miss this part and I do I dress don't miss this part and I do I dress don't miss this part and I will tell you my embarrassing story of will tell you my embarrassing story of will tell you my embarrassing story of how I missed it when we wore skinny how I missed it when we wore skinny how I missed it when we wore skinny jeans and slim fit jeans the length was jeans and slim fit jeans the length was jeans and slim fit jeans the length was very important because it doesn't make very important because it doesn't make very important because it doesn't make sense to have this skin tight Jee that sense to have this skin tight Jee that sense to have this skin tight Jee that then bunches at the bottom looks sloppy then bunches at the bottom looks sloppy then bunches at the bottom looks sloppy so we all got used to wearing the right so we all got used to wearing the right so we all got used to wearing the right inseam and if you were a shorty like me inseam and if you were a shorty like me inseam and if you were a shorty like me you had to get like 28 in inseams 30 you had to get like 28 in inseams 30 you had to get like 28 in inseams 30 depending on where it got measured but depending on where it got measured but depending on where it got measured but usually 28 which are hard to find usually 28 which are hard to find usually 28 which are hard to find because otherwise you had to get them because otherwise you had to get them because otherwise you had to get them tailored your pants are like bunching at tailored your pants are like bunching at tailored your pants are like bunching at the bottom while they're slim that the bottom while they're slim that the bottom while they're slim that doesn't look

doesn't look doesn't look streamlined the opposite is true for streamlined the opposite is true for streamlined the opposite is true for relaxed jeans and even straight fit now relaxed jeans and even straight fit now relaxed jeans and even straight fit now in fashion and in just tailoring there's in fashion and in just tailoring there's in fashion and in just tailoring there's the a word called break and it refers to the a word called break and it refers to the a word called break and it refers to how your pants stack at the bottom so how your pants stack at the bottom so how your pants stack at the bottom so like no break means like they don't at like no break means like they don't at like no break means like they don't at all hit like the top of your foot and all hit like the top of your foot and all hit like the top of your foot and like bend a bit then there's a half like bend a bit then there's a half like bend a bit then there's a half break which means like they're doing it break which means like they're doing it break which means like they're doing it a bit then there's a full break and then a bit then there's a full break and then a bit then there's a full break and then so it that depends on the stack of the so it that depends on the stack of the so it that depends on the stack of the gene at the bottom am I making myself gene at the bottom am I making myself gene at the bottom am I making myself okay so if you have a relaxed pair of okay so if you have a relaxed pair of okay so if you have a relaxed pair of denim you need the jeans to stack denim you need the jeans to stack denim you need the jeans to stack because it doesn't look right at all to because it doesn't look right at all to because it doesn't look right at all to have these baggy jeans that then don't have these baggy jeans that then don't have these baggy jeans that then don't touch your shoes right right so the touch your shoes right right so the touch your shoes right right so the inverse is true but I didn't get that so inverse is true but I didn't get that so inverse is true but I didn't get that so I'm like wearing looser jeans and of all I'm like wearing looser jeans and of all I'm like wearing looser jeans and of all places in the world I'm at my favorite places in the world I'm at my favorite places in the world I'm at my favorite Boutique in the fashion capital of Boutique in the fashion capital of Boutique in the fashion capital of planet Earth I'm at acne planet Earth I'm at acne planet Earth I'm at acne studios in Paris France and I'm buying studios in Paris France and I'm buying studios in Paris France and I'm buying jeans and the very jeans and the very jeans and the very kind uh person that's working at acne kind uh person that's working at acne kind uh person that's working at acne we're talking and I'm like I'm from KY we're talking and I'm like I'm from KY we're talking and I'm like I'm from KY he's like oh Drake right we're talking he's like oh Drake right we're talking he's like oh Drake right we're talking about music and stuff and he's like so about music and stuff and he's like so about music and stuff and he's like so the the the jeans like I would get a longer one I jeans like I would get a longer one I jeans like I would get a longer one I was like no no see my inse is like 28 so was like no no see my inse is like 28 so was like no no see my inse is like 28 so I have to get 28 he's like yeah but like I have to get 28 he's like yeah but like I have to get 28 he's like yeah but like and he very delicately and kindly put me and he very delicately and kindly put me and he very delicately and kindly put me in my place and told me like no you need in my place and told me like no you need in my place and told me like no you need them to stack and I got home and my wife them to stack and I got home and my wife them to stack and I got home and my wife was like I told you cuz she'd been was like I told you cuz she'd been was like I told you cuz she'd been making fun of me for so long she making fun of me for so long she making fun of me for so long she couldn't articulate what it was but she couldn't articulate what it was but she couldn't articulate what it was but she could sense visually if your jeans could sense visually if your jeans could sense visually if your jeans become relaxed the inseam can't be as become relaxed the inseam can't be as become relaxed the inseam can't be as short as they once were inversely if we

short as they once were inversely if we short as they once were inversely if we ever get back to slim and tight you ever get back to slim and tight you ever get back to slim and tight you don't want them to bunch and stack at don't want them to bunch and stack at don't want them to bunch and stack at the bottom right so have I helped you the bottom right so have I helped you the bottom right so have I helped you has this been helpful immensely has this been helpful immensely has this been helpful immensely helpful okay uh SK similarly skinny helpful okay uh SK similarly skinny helpful okay uh SK similarly skinny shoes away from chunky we we talked shoes away from chunky we we talked shoes away from chunky we we talked about the the SAS on the show that's about the the SAS on the show that's about the the SAS on the show that's right so I don't have any SAS myself a right so I don't have any SAS myself a right so I don't have any SAS myself a bit on the nose you know they're very bit on the nose you know they're very bit on the nose you know they're very trendy they they are a girly shoe I not trendy they they are a girly shoe I not trendy they they are a girly shoe I not a girly shoe they're like hot with the a girly shoe they're like hot with the a girly shoe they're like hot with the girlies so my wife has a ton I really girlies so my wife has a ton I really girlies so my wife has a ton I really support her I we're entering into the support her I we're entering into the support her I we're entering into the gauntlet of gifts for my wife um we have gauntlet of gifts for my wife um we have gauntlet of gifts for my wife um we have sunshine gift May 1st of every year sunshine gift May 1st of every year sunshine gift May 1st of every year which is like hey you made it through which is like hey you made it through which is like hey you made it through the winter you don't belong in the the winter you don't belong in the the winter you don't belong in the winter I'm sorry that you live in this winter I'm sorry that you live in this winter I'm sorry that you live in this part of Canada but we can never leave part of Canada but we can never leave part of Canada but we can never leave truly until our children graduate and truly until our children graduate and truly until our children graduate and leave the house so Sunshine gift you leave the house so Sunshine gift you leave the house so Sunshine gift you made it May 1st um then there's Mother's made it May 1st um then there's Mother's made it May 1st um then there's Mother's Day wow less than two weeks after that Day wow less than two weeks after that Day wow less than two weeks after that then there's our anniversary May 19th y then there's our anniversary May 19th y then there's our anniversary May 19th y then her then her birthday June 11th so then her then her birthday June 11th so then her then her birthday June 11th so there's a lot of gifts in there so I've there's a lot of gifts in there so I've there's a lot of gifts in there so I've been stacking them all up I have the been stacking them all up I have the been stacking them all up I have the gauntlet ready and I have some you know gauntlet ready and I have some you know gauntlet ready and I have some you know new colors for her she doesn't listen to new colors for her she doesn't listen to new colors for her she doesn't listen to the show your wife doesn't listen to the the show your wife doesn't listen to the the show your wife doesn't listen to the show it seems impossible that they would show it seems impossible that they would show it seems impossible that they would come across this um so skinny shoes away come across this um so skinny shoes away come across this um so skinny shoes away from chunky I have a pair of Reebok Club from chunky I have a pair of Reebok Club from chunky I have a pair of Reebok Club 85s Club C's that I think everyone can 85s Club C's that I think everyone can 85s Club C's that I think everyone can get on board with they're you know I get on board with they're you know I get on board with they're you know I like a lot of Air Forces and I still like a lot of Air Forces and I still like a lot of Air Forces and I still have them and this is important you know have them and this is important you know have them and this is important you know Trends come and trends Trends come and trends Trends come and trends go just because a trend is out doesn't go just because a trend is out doesn't go just because a trend is out doesn't mean like it's bad to wear like skinny mean like it's bad to wear like skinny mean like it's bad to wear like skinny there are things that are really trendy there are things that are really trendy there are things that are really trendy like skinny jeans and when they get like like skinny jeans and when they get like like skinny jeans and when they get like they fall out of favor like yeah we it's

they fall out of favor like yeah we it's they fall out of favor like yeah we it's very obvious but like let's say Air very obvious but like let's say Air very obvious but like let's say Air Force ones are like not the hot SHO and Force ones are like not the hot SHO and Force ones are like not the hot SHO and it's a d toomas well you don't need to it's a d toomas well you don't need to it's a d toomas well you don't need to get like that exact shoe if you look get like that exact shoe if you look get like that exact shoe if you look really good in um Air Force 1es that really good in um Air Force 1es that really good in um Air Force 1es that being said if the trend is away from being said if the trend is away from being said if the trend is away from chunk your shoes towards more of a chunk your shoes towards more of a chunk your shoes towards more of a Slimmer silhouette what silhouette of Slimmer silhouette what silhouette of Slimmer silhouette what silhouette of shoe might you like and the rebot club shoe might you like and the rebot club shoe might you like and the rebot club C's are really inexpensive I think even C's are really inexpensive I think even C's are really inexpensive I think even relative to Air Force ones that might be relative to Air Force ones that might be relative to Air Force ones that might be like 110 nowadays uh famously $95 for so like 110 nowadays uh famously $95 for so like 110 nowadays uh famously $95 for so long and then Nike had up the price yeah long and then Nike had up the price yeah long and then Nike had up the price yeah Club se's are like 70 bucks so great Club se's are like 70 bucks so great Club se's are like 70 bucks so great love those and then just finally some love those and then just finally some love those and then just finally some brands that I've been loving lately brands that I've been loving lately brands that I've been loving lately about blank which is a British brand a about blank which is a British brand a about blank which is a British brand a kind of guys which is a German brand and kind of guys which is a German brand and kind of guys which is a German brand and that is the brand of the crew neck that is the brand of the crew neck that is the brand of the crew neck v-neck that I'm wearing right now the a v-neck that I'm wearing right now the a v-neck that I'm wearing right now the a a kind of guys gu u i s e right guys a a kind of guys gu u i s e right guys a a kind of guys gu u i s e right guys a space kind space of space guys it's space kind space of space guys it's space kind space of space guys it's worse than Pro Church TOs and then uh worse than Pro Church TOs and then uh worse than Pro Church TOs and then uh sunflower which is a Danish brand uh and sunflower which is a Danish brand uh and sunflower which is a Danish brand uh and then finally I got it it's rice 910 the then finally I got it it's rice 910 the then finally I got it it's rice 910 the Japanese okay okay if you say so rice 910 yes all okay okay if you say so rice 910 yes all right I feel equipped I feel like you right I feel equipped I feel like you right I feel equipped I feel like you made it through that made it through that made it through that segment I listen I'm just I'm shocked segment I listen I'm just I'm shocked segment I listen I'm just I'm shocked about the stack shirts I'm bewildered about the stack shirts I'm bewildered about the stack shirts I'm bewildered about the v-neck but we know this that about the v-neck but we know this that about the v-neck but we know this that these things these Trends these the these things these Trends these the these things these Trends these the fashion it's circular it's coming back fashion it's circular it's coming back fashion it's circular it's coming back around one might say it's coming back

around one might say it's coming back around one might say it's coming back around quicker than we expected it to around quicker than we expected it to around quicker than we expected it to but it's coming back back R nonetheless but it's coming back back R nonetheless but it's coming back back R nonetheless some might say it's back in a big way some might say it's back in a big way some might say it's back in a big way problem is what are we what are we going problem is what are we what are we going problem is what are we what are we going to do you and I when skinny jeans to do you and I when skinny jeans to do you and I when skinny jeans inevitably come back around and our legs inevitably come back around and our legs inevitably come back around and our legs our bodies are not what they were when our bodies are not what they were when our bodies are not what they were when we were 19 well we can make a slim fit we were 19 well we can make a slim fit we were 19 well we can make a slim fit work like I think even with our body work like I think even with our body work like I think even with our body types right now like so long as we don't types right now like so long as we don't types right now like so long as we don't put on an extra 30 lbs from where we're put on an extra 30 lbs from where we're put on an extra 30 lbs from where we're at now like we can make a slim fit work at now like we can make a slim fit work at now like we can make a slim fit work and that's all in the hands of the Ninja and that's all in the hands of the Ninja and that's all in the hands of the Ninja creamy that's right yeah it's it is on creamy that's right yeah it's it is on creamy that's right yeah it's it is on the back of the Ninja creamy wow the the back of the Ninja creamy wow the the back of the Ninja creamy wow the danger is going to be when the 2000s danger is going to be when the 2000s danger is going to be when the 2000s come back cuz like when I watch Seinfeld come back cuz like when I watch Seinfeld come back cuz like when I watch Seinfeld and early friends and they're like in and early friends and they're like in and early friends and they're like in their '90s fits I'm like this is great their '90s fits I'm like this is great their '90s fits I'm like this is great sweater vests thanks chanler let's bring sweater vests thanks chanler let's bring sweater vests thanks chanler let's bring it back when friends gets to the 2000s it back when friends gets to the 2000s it back when friends gets to the 2000s it's like what are we wearing yeah and it's like what are we wearing yeah and it's like what are we wearing yeah and so if that comes back now that being so if that comes back now that being so if that comes back now that being said every time fashion comes back it said every time fashion comes back it said every time fashion comes back it doesn't come back exactly as it like it doesn't come back exactly as it like it doesn't come back exactly as it like it Rhymes and so it comes back and you're Rhymes and so it comes back and you're Rhymes and so it comes back and you're like I remember something like this hold like I remember something like this hold like I remember something like this hold on it Rhymes is that an original or is on it Rhymes is that an original or is on it Rhymes is that an original or is that from someone else that's George that from someone else that's George that from someone else that's George Lucas he talks about Star Wars how it Lucas he talks about Star Wars how it Lucas he talks about Star Wars how it rhymes yeah it's great that just ended rhymes yeah it's great that just ended rhymes yeah it's great that just ended me yeah take that one well good so you me yeah take that one well good so you me yeah take that one well good so you made it to the whole fashion segment and made it to the whole fashion segment and made it to the whole fashion segment and you got that one you got that one you got that one wow we can we just 13th and final question for today's just 13th and final question for today's show because I need to go lay on the show because I need to go lay on the show because I need to go lay on the couch and just soak in the in that uh couch and just soak in the in that uh couch and just soak in the in that uh last question I was born and raised and last question I was born and raised and last question I was born and raised and lived in bigger cities my whole life I lived in bigger cities my whole life I lived in bigger cities my whole life I moved to work at a church in 2020 to do moved to work at a church in 2020 to do moved to work at a church in 2020 to do media for them full-time since moving media for them full-time since moving media for them full-time since moving here I have adopted your church Hub

here I have adopted your church Hub here I have adopted your church Hub model we use an app to be clear the app model we use an app to be clear the app model we use an app to be clear the app is not my model and put your church Hub is not my model and put your church Hub is not my model and put your church Hub model comma we use an app that's model comma we use an app that's model comma we use an app that's unrelated we did not abide by your unrelated we did not abide by your unrelated we did not abide by your advice comma I have a single okay back advice comma I have a single okay back advice comma I have a single okay back to our advice I have a single QR code to our advice I have a single QR code to our advice I have a single QR code that directs everyone to the church Hub that directs everyone to the church Hub that directs everyone to the church Hub back on well that's the thing it made it back on well that's the thing it made it back on well that's the thing it made it seem like that was all myice you take seem like that was all myice you take seem like that was all myice you take two things I say you sandwich together two things I say you sandwich together two things I say you sandwich together the biggest thing I say don't do it they the biggest thing I say don't do it they the biggest thing I say don't do it they did you dirty um and during this journey did you dirty um and during this journey did you dirty um and during this journey I've seen an increase increased traffic I've seen an increase increased traffic I've seen an increase increased traffic for involvement and engagement great for involvement and engagement great for involvement and engagement great however we don't receive much of our however we don't receive much of our however we don't receive much of our connection cards online since we connection cards online since we connection cards online since we switched my pastor who has grown up in switched my pastor who has grown up in switched my pastor who has grown up in the small town makes statements the small town makes statements the small town makes statements regularly when things don't work that regularly when things don't work that regularly when things don't work that quote this goes to prove my point that quote this goes to prove my point that quote this goes to prove my point that our church just isn't technologically our church just isn't technologically our church just isn't technologically savvy end quote and essentially blames savvy end quote and essentially blames savvy end quote and essentially blames it all on small town culture based on it all on small town culture based on it all on small town culture based on any of your data would something like any of your data would something like any of your data would something like smalltown culture really have that smalltown culture really have that smalltown culture really have that drastic of a disability with technology drastic of a disability with technology drastic of a disability with technology compared to churches located in Metro compared to churches located in Metro compared to churches located in Metro areas yeah I don't think so like it's areas yeah I don't think so like it's areas yeah I don't think so like it's not that people in small towns don't not that people in small towns don't not that people in small towns don't have phones right so what we do see is have phones right so what we do see is have phones right so what we do see is usually a church in a smaller town is usually a church in a smaller town is usually a church in a smaller town is going to be an older church and a big going to be an older church and a big going to be an older church and a big part of that is not as many young people part of that is not as many young people part of that is not as many young people attend church not as many people live in attend church not as many people live in attend church not as many people live in small towns so there not as many small towns so there not as many small towns so there not as many potential young people to go to a church potential young people to go to a church potential young people to go to a church sure or to uh like make up a church of sure or to uh like make up a church of sure or to uh like make up a church of their own more older people do go to their own more older people do go to their own more older people do go to church smaller towns would have just as church smaller towns would have just as church smaller towns would have just as many presumably older or younger people many presumably older or younger people many presumably older or younger people but if more older people go to church but if more older people go to church but if more older people go to church then they might be able to support one

then they might be able to support one then they might be able to support one or two churches in that to and so then or two churches in that to and so then or two churches in that to and so then you might take from that oh our church you might take from that oh our church you might take from that oh our church is small town we're not technologically is small town we're not technologically is small town we're not technologically savvy when in savvy when in savvy when in reality it's just that it's an older reality it's just that it's an older reality it's just that it's an older Church yeah so that would be my read on Church yeah so that would be my read on Church yeah so that would be my read on it I also think it would be strange in it I also think it would be strange in it I also think it would be strange in the question he says they say we've done the question he says they say we've done the question he says they say we've done these things positively and we've seen these things positively and we've seen these things positively and we've seen measurable measurable measurable improvements but then you cherry-pick improvements but then you cherry-pick improvements but then you cherry-pick the one that didn't improve and then say the one that didn't improve and then say the one that didn't improve and then say see we're not technologically savvy but see we're not technologically savvy but see we're not technologically savvy but what about the other ones right are you what about the other ones right are you what about the other ones right are you just picking the one that didn't work just picking the one that didn't work just picking the one that didn't work and saying that proves the rule or is and saying that proves the rule or is and saying that proves the rule or is that one that didn't work just the that one that didn't work just the that one that didn't work just the outlier and it means that people didn't outlier and it means that people didn't outlier and it means that people didn't take to the connect cards in that way so take to the connect cards in that way so take to the connect cards in that way so without without without knowing how their methodology for knowing how their methodology for knowing how their methodology for getting connect cards filled out how getting connect cards filled out how getting connect cards filled out how what would you suggest to make an what would you suggest to make an what would you suggest to make an improvement to see more connection cards improvement to see more connection cards improvement to see more connection cards filled out online for any filled out online for any filled out online for any church so we have the print cards um and church so we have the print cards um and church so we have the print cards um and you can find this on prch tools.com you can find this on prch tools.com you can find this on prch tools.com Church connect card Church connect card Church connect card template um it's also on YouTube and we template um it's also on YouTube and we template um it's also on YouTube and we have a print Ready download and it's a have a print Ready download and it's a have a print Ready download and it's a card with a QR code on the back and that card with a QR code on the back and that card with a QR code on the back and that takes you to the online spot if you also takes you to the online spot if you also takes you to the online spot if you also want to do like printed connect cards want to do like printed connect cards want to do like printed connect cards where people fill them out it's worth an where people fill them out it's worth an where people fill them out it's worth an experiment like if you've tried experiment like if you've tried experiment like if you've tried something and it's not working then something and it's not working then something and it's not working then you'd want to try for 90 days the you'd want to try for 90 days the you'd want to try for 90 days the opposite and see or six months and see opposite and see or six months and see opposite and see or six months and see if you can see any difference and and if you can see any difference and and if you can see any difference and and then if you have that data be like okay then if you have that data be like okay then if you have that data be like okay for us these online things worked and

for us these online things worked and for us these online things worked and this didn't to tie it back to the this didn't to tie it back to the this didn't to tie it back to the fashion question every year there are fashion question every year there are fashion question every year there are new trends that come along some of those new trends that come along some of those new trends that come along some of those Trends are going to look ridiculous on Trends are going to look ridiculous on Trends are going to look ridiculous on you other of those Trends will look you other of those Trends will look you other of those Trends will look great on you if you try the ridiculous great on you if you try the ridiculous great on you if you try the ridiculous ones you see I you know I can't wear ones you see I you know I can't wear ones you see I you know I can't wear this new clothing it's like well you this new clothing it's like well you this new clothing it's like well you just tried that on it didn't make sense just tried that on it didn't make sense just tried that on it didn't make sense you tried this other one it did make you tried this other one it did make you tried this other one it did make sense same thing kind of here like there sense same thing kind of here like there sense same thing kind of here like there are lots of best practices for social are lots of best practices for social are lots of best practices for social that I talk about that I don't employ that I talk about that I don't employ that I talk about that I don't employ personally because they don't make sense personally because they don't make sense personally because they don't make sense for our organization or my approach to for our organization or my approach to for our organization or my approach to digital media so if you try something digital media so if you try something digital media so if you try something that's not working experiment with that's not working experiment with that's not working experiment with something else and then you at least something else and then you at least something else and then you at least have data to compare but what you can't have data to compare but what you can't have data to compare but what you can't do is point at one thing that didn't do is point at one thing that didn't do is point at one thing that didn't work and then uh infer that the opposite work and then uh infer that the opposite work and then uh infer that the opposite would work what if both don't work now would work what if both don't work now would work what if both don't work now you have to confront that it had nothing you have to confront that it had nothing you have to confront that it had nothing to do with the strategy and more with to do with the strategy and more with to do with the strategy and more with something to do with the culture of the something to do with the culture of the something to do with the culture of the church or if the other offline method church or if the other offline method church or if the other offline method does work then you can say okay this does work then you can say okay this does work then you can say okay this offline uh expression isn't great for us offline uh expression isn't great for us offline uh expression isn't great for us so you need more data it's I would so you need more data it's I would so you need more data it's I would say I'm going to say bad leadership but say I'm going to say bad leadership but say I'm going to say bad leadership but like it's bad process like it's bad process like it's bad process at and infite if don't have dat that it at and infite if don't have dat that it at and infite if don't have dat that it maybe this church they have oh yeah yeah maybe this church they have oh yeah yeah maybe this church they have oh yeah yeah we did and if so then great hybrid we did and if so then great hybrid we did and if so then great hybrid approach that's also great also I think approach that's also great also I think approach that's also great also I think the printed connect card with the QR the printed connect card with the QR the printed connect card with the QR code that leads you to complete the code that leads you to complete the code that leads you to complete the connect card online is such a genius connect card online is such a genius connect card online is such a genius approach because some of what I perceive approach because some of what I perceive approach because some of what I perceive to be the missing piece for folks to be the missing piece for folks to be the missing piece for folks filling out connection connection cards filling out connection connection cards filling out connection connection cards online is that without that online is that without that online is that without that printed um printed um printed um card sometimes especially in smaller card sometimes especially in smaller card sometimes especially in smaller Church CH where often on a 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Church CH where often on a Sunday most Church CH where often on a Sunday most of the people in the room already belong of the people in the room already belong of the people in the room already belong to the church the connect card if it to the church the connect card if it to the church the connect card if it doesn't have printed visibility it doesn't have printed visibility it doesn't have printed visibility it remains invisible because when you get remains invisible because when you get remains invisible because when you get up every Sunday to do announcements or up every Sunday to do announcements or up every Sunday to do announcements or whatever and it's all the same people in whatever and it's all the same people in whatever and it's all the same people in the room you it gets tired to make the the room you it gets tired to make the the room you it gets tired to make the connect card invitation every week I see connect card invitation every week I see connect card invitation every week I see great point you know and so if you have great point you know and so if you have great point you know and so if you have something printed it's not to fill out something printed it's not to fill out something printed it's not to fill out in printed form it's it's got a QR code in printed form it's it's got a QR code in printed form it's it's got a QR code that leads you to fill it out online but that leads you to fill it out online but that leads you to fill it out online but if if you at least have it visibly if if you at least have it visibly if if you at least have it visibly whether it's at your little Welcome whether it's at your little Welcome whether it's at your little Welcome Center at the front door wherever you Center at the front door wherever you Center at the front door wherever you have something that says like hey fill have something that says like hey fill have something that says like hey fill this out this out this out um that really helps to make that next um that really helps to make that next um that really helps to make that next step visible in a small Church where step visible in a small Church where step visible in a small Church where sometimes it can become invisible right sometimes it can become invisible right sometimes it can become invisible right because you're not getting as many new because you're not getting as many new because you're not getting as many new visitors and so you're just not like visitors and so you're just not like visitors and so you're just not like talking about it as much if you're like talking about it as much if you're like talking about it as much if you're like we're in we our church is in literally we're in we our church is in literally we're in we our church is in literally the shadow of nagra's mega church and I the shadow of nagra's mega church and I the shadow of nagra's mega church and I don't know how many new visitors Central don't know how many new visitors Central don't know how many new visitors Central has on a Sunday but surely it's has on a Sunday but surely it's has on a Sunday but surely it's multiple and for us at the little church multiple and for us at the little church multiple and for us at the little church down the street that's just not true and down the street that's just not true and down the street that's just not true and so at Central when you get up and do so at Central when you get up and do so at Central when you get up and do announcements it is it is appropriate to announcements it is it is appropriate to announcements it is it is appropriate to make a call to action to fill out the make a call to action to fill out the make a call to action to fill out the connect card every Sunday because connect card every Sunday because connect card every Sunday because there's always someone new in the room there's always someone new in the room there's always someone new in the room and at the little Church of 65 down the and at the little Church of 65 down the and at the little Church of 65 down the street that's just not true and so I I street that's just not true and so I I street that's just not true and so I I can tell you from experience when can tell you from experience when can tell you from experience when there's not new people in the room I there's not new people in the room I there's not new people in the room I don't introduce myself when I get up to don't introduce myself when I get up to don't introduce myself when I get up to speak or I don't say if you're new here speak or I don't say if you're new here speak or I don't say if you're new here fill a con card cuz I can see you I know fill a con card cuz I can see you I know fill a con card cuz I can see you I know you're not new here but when there are you're not new here but when there are you're not new here but when there are new people in the room I do introduce

new people in the room I do introduce new people in the room I do introduce myself hey welcome to church my name is myself hey welcome to church my name is myself hey welcome to church my name is Alexander I'm one of the pastors here Alexander I'm one of the pastors here Alexander I'm one of the pastors here let's open up the scriptures if you're let's open up the scriptures if you're let's open up the scriptures if you're new here fill the connection card um so new here fill the connection card um so new here fill the connection card um so it's easier for it to slip through when it's easier for it to slip through when it's easier for it to slip through when uh it just from my perspective and my uh it just from my perspective and my uh it just from my perspective and my experience when it's a smaller church experience when it's a smaller church experience when it's a smaller church when like you said there's just often when like you said there's just often when like you said there's just often not as many new visitors in the room you not as many new visitors in the room you not as many new visitors in the room you can type in Pro Church tools connect can type in Pro Church tools connect can type in Pro Church tools connect card to Google or YouTube and you'll card to Google or YouTube and you'll card to Google or YouTube and you'll find our examples and templates that you find our examples and templates that you find our examples and templates that you can download free download fre can download free download fre can download free download fre everything's free everything's free yeah everything's free everything's free yeah everything's free everything's free yeah policies policies you know it's not free your attention we you know it's not free your attention we appreciate it thank you for your time appreciate it thank you for your time appreciate it thank you for your time attention and Trust we'll talk to you attention and Trust we'll talk to you attention and Trust we'll talk to you next Wednesday so you know coffee next Wednesday so you know coffee next Wednesday so you know coffee hunting feel free to lean into that the hunting feel free to lean into that the hunting feel free to lean into that the mine are all like fashion Fitness food mine are all like fashion Fitness food mine are all like fashion Fitness food fragrance so they all start with f so fragrance so they all start with f so fragrance so they all start with f so I'm thinking about a section called f I'm thinking about a section called f I'm thinking about a section called f corner what do you corner what do you corner what do you think I think it could use a little bit think I think it could use a little bit think I think it could use a little bit more workshopping okay yeah yeah I more workshopping okay yeah yeah I more workshopping okay yeah yeah I thought you'd say that he man