How To Change A Stubborn Church

how do you get senior leadership in your how do you get senior leadership in your church to take your ideas seriously church to take your ideas seriously church to take your ideas seriously especially when you're younger or not a especially when you're younger or not a especially when you're younger or not a seasoned in Ministry you do whatever it seasoned in Ministry you do whatever it seasoned in Ministry you do whatever it takes guilt shame takes guilt shame takes guilt shame threats alternatively we have some less threats alternatively we have some less threats alternatively we have some less abrasive ideas to share with you as well abrasive ideas to share with you as well abrasive ideas to share with you as well if you say so this is how to change a if you say so this is how to change a if you say so this is how to change a stubborn Church stubborn Church stubborn Church well hey there and welcome to the pro well hey there and welcome to the pro well hey there and welcome to the 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episode how do I get leadership to take social media I get leadership to take social media I get leadership to take social media seriously and use it as an Outreach tool seriously and use it as an Outreach tool seriously and use it as an Outreach tool rather than just using it as a last rather than just using it as a last rather than just using it as a last minute announcements Channel I've minute announcements Channel I've minute announcements Channel I've already given up on using announcements already given up on using announcements already given up on using announcements in a sensible way no nobody else from in a sensible way no nobody else from in a sensible way no nobody else from church listens to this that would church listens to this that would church listens to this that would involve a willingness to learn dot dot involve a willingness to learn dot dot involve a willingness to learn dot dot dot yikes yikes so uh this question does dot yikes yikes so uh this question does dot 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end on a bit of a bitter note but this end on a bit of a bitter note but this form of question is one that we receive form of question is one that we receive form of question is one that we receive perhaps more than any other how do we perhaps more than any other how do we perhaps more than any other how do we navigate senior leadership being navigate senior leadership being navigate senior leadership being stubborn unwillingness to change they stubborn unwillingness to change they stubborn unwillingness to change they don't listen to what I have to say so don't listen to what I have to say so don't listen to what I have to say so this is when kind of you know your this is when kind of you know your this is when kind of you know your church has done something a certain way church has done something a certain way church has done something a certain way you know it's time to try something new you know it's time to try something new you know it's time to try something new time for a change how can you possibly time for a change how can you possibly time for a change how can you possibly make that happen so let's break down the make that happen so let's break down the make that happen so let's break down the process Step One is aligning over the process Step One is aligning over the process Step One is aligning over the mission because right now and in these mission because right now and in these mission because right now and in these situations what you have are two parties situations what you have are two parties situations what you have are two parties each with in their mind different goals each with in their mind different goals each with in their mind different goals thinking that the other party has no thinking that the other party has no thinking that the other party has no idea what is actually needed so before idea what is actually needed so before idea what is actually needed so before you can begin even plotting out a course you can begin even plotting out a course you can begin even plotting out a course of action you need to reconcile those of action you need to reconcile those of action you need to reconcile those differences the analogy that we always differences the analogy that we always differences the analogy that we always use is if you're getting in the car with use is if you're getting in the car with use is if you're getting in the car with someone and you're trying to get to a someone and you're trying to get to a someone and you're trying to get to a destination you both need to agree on destination you both need to agree on destination you both need to agree on the destination otherwise when you get the destination otherwise when you get the destination otherwise when you get there one of you is going to be like hey there one of you is going to be like hey there one of you is going to be like hey why why are we here this is not where we why why are we here this is not where we why why are we here this is not where we were supposed to be going that's what were supposed to be going that's what were supposed to be going that's what we're typically dealing with in these we're typically dealing with in these we're typically dealing with in these situations because you got the pastor situations because you got the pastor situations because you got the pastor the senior leader and then the other the senior leader and then the other the senior leader and then the other Pastor or the not senior leader and they Pastor or the not senior leader and they Pastor or the not senior leader and they both think they're going to different both think they're going to different both think they're going to different places because neither of them is places because neither of them is places because neither of them is elevating the mission the way to elevating the mission the way to elevating the mission the way to reconcile the differences is to say hey reconcile the differences is to say hey reconcile the differences is to say hey at the end of the day this is the at the end of the day this is the at the end of the day this is the mission of the church this is what we mission of the church this is what we mission of the church this is what we want to fulfill so are we in agreement want to fulfill so are we in agreement want to fulfill so are we in agreement over that always the first over that always the first over that always the first step no other way around are we in step no other way around are we in step no other way around are we in agreement that this is the mission so agreement that this is the mission so agreement that this is the mission so this is the destination we're trying to this is the destination we're trying to this is the destination we're trying to get to once we get into this vehicle get to once we get into this vehicle get to once we get into this vehicle together yes okay then let's move to together yes okay then let's move to together yes okay then let's move to step two now it's on you person asking

step two now it's on you person asking step two now it's on you person asking the question to demonstrate the value of the question to demonstrate the value of the question to demonstrate the value of what you're proposing by first linking what you're proposing by first linking what you're proposing by first linking it to the mission and then showing its it to the mission and then showing its it to the mission and then showing its merit with what we call the trip s merit with what we call the trip s merit with what we call the trip s framework that's stories stats and steps framework that's stories stats and steps framework that's stories stats and steps so in this case let's say you're trying so in this case let's say you're trying so in this case let's say you're trying to establish that social media as a to establish that social media as a to establish that social media as a Ministry is Superior in relation to Ministry is Superior in relation to Ministry is Superior in relation to fulfilling the mission of the church fulfilling the mission of the church fulfilling the mission of the church relative to social media as a last relative to social media as a last relative to social media as a last minute announc Outlet so it's your job minute announc Outlet so it's your job minute announc Outlet so it's your job to prove that theory with stories stats to prove that theory with stories stats to prove that theory with stories stats and steps stories you might use a and steps stories you might use a and steps stories you might use a personal anecdote of when your church personal anecdote of when your church personal anecdote of when your church did use social as a Ministry tool and did use social as a Ministry tool and did use social as a Ministry tool and what it led to or if you don't have that what it led to or if you don't have that what it led to or if you don't have that because you're like Brady if I had that because you're like Brady if I had that because you're like Brady if I had that I wouldn't be asking you the question I wouldn't be asking you the question I wouldn't be asking you the question you could go to social sermons.com you could go to social sermons.com you could go to social sermons.com casestudies or any number of the times casestudies or any number of the times casestudies or any number of the times that we post screenshots of when people that we post screenshots of when people that we post screenshots of when people are putting these uh tools and tactics are putting these uh tools and tactics are putting these uh tools and tactics into action and into action and into action and and say hey this is our church but look and say hey this is our church but look and say hey this is our church but look at this other church and how they used at this other church and how they used at this other church and how they used Ministry and did social that way look Ministry and did social that way look Ministry and did social that way look it's great that's stories stats because it's great that's stories stats because it's great that's stories stats because stories are just anecdotal and you never stories are just anecdotal and you never stories are just anecdotal and you never know maybe your pastor will see right know maybe your pastor will see right know maybe your pastor will see right through that and be like yeah I can also through that and be like yeah I can also through that and be like yeah I can also tell you a story of when my you know ex tell you a story of when my you know ex tell you a story of when my you know ex cousin used social and they died right R cousin used social and they died right R cousin used social and they died right R okay so then that's where Stats come in okay so then that's where Stats come in okay so then that's where Stats come in stats are empirical evidence broadly stats are empirical evidence broadly stats are empirical evidence broadly over all people in stories that say Hey over all people in stories that say Hey over all people in stories that say Hey this isn't just doal thing yes that's this isn't just doal thing yes that's this isn't just doal thing yes that's emotional and it grips you and it's emotional and it grips you and it's emotional and it grips you and it's storytelling but here is demonstrable storytelling but here is demonstrable storytelling but here is demonstrable proof that is empirical that suggests

proof that is empirical that suggests proof that is empirical that suggests that what I'm I'm saying is a good thing that what I'm I'm saying is a good thing that what I'm I'm saying is a good thing to do yeah and then steps okay I'm to do yeah and then steps okay I'm to do yeah and then steps okay I'm convinced what are the actionable items convinced what are the actionable items convinced what are the actionable items that we need to pursue to see this come that we need to pursue to see this come that we need to pursue to see this come to fruition and then once you've done to fruition and then once you've done to fruition and then once you've done that the third step is to ask for that the third step is to ask for that the third step is to ask for resources from senior leadership this is resources from senior leadership this is resources from senior leadership this is the final step problem is a lot of the final step problem is a lot of the final step problem is a lot of people rush to make this the first step people rush to make this the first step people rush to make this the first step they go to the senior leader and they they go to the senior leader and they they go to the senior leader and they say hey I want want this thing to happen say hey I want want this thing to happen say hey I want want this thing to happen can you do this well the senior leader can you do this well the senior leader can you do this well the senior leader Alex you know this as a senior leader in Alex you know this as a senior leader in Alex you know this as a senior leader in your church is yeah every time you do your church is yeah every time you do your church is yeah every time you do Church someone comes up to you and says Church someone comes up to you and says Church someone comes up to you and says hey we should do this ever thought about hey we should do this ever thought about hey we should do this ever thought about that and you're like you're right I've that and you're like you're right I've that and you're like you're right I've never thought about that or two you're never thought about that or two you're never thought about that or two you're right you know what now I know where to right you know what now I know where to right you know what now I know where to put all my money and time right yeah I put all my money and time right yeah I put all my money and time right yeah I actually didn't know where we should put actually didn't know where we should put actually didn't know where we should put it have storehouses just full of money it have storehouses just full of money it have storehouses just full of money and time finally finally some we can and time finally finally some we can and time finally finally some we can throw this at so you want this to be throw this at so you want this to be throw this at so you want this to be last after you've agreed on the broad last after you've agreed on the broad last after you've agreed on the broad trajectory you're heading on as a church trajectory you're heading on as a church trajectory you're heading on as a church toward the Fulfillment of that mission toward the Fulfillment of that mission toward the Fulfillment of that mission you've de demonstr that your idea is you've de demonstr that your idea is you've de demonstr that your idea is sound story stats and steps this is sound story stats and steps this is sound story stats and steps this is going to work you know you can even going to work you know you can even going to work you know you can even sneak in something else do a little bit sneak in something else do a little bit sneak in something else do a little bit of a pilot project but hey I'm not of a pilot project but hey I'm not of a pilot project but hey I'm not asking to commit to something permanent asking to commit to something permanent asking to commit to something permanent but can we test this for a week a month but can we test this for a week a month but can we test this for a week a month three months and just see I'm not asking three months and just see I'm not asking three months and just see I'm not asking hey keep doing what you're doing but I'm hey keep doing what you're doing but I'm hey keep doing what you're doing but I'm going to try my own thing and let's just going to try my own thing and let's just going to try my own thing and let's just see how it goes that way you're not see how it goes that way you're not see how it goes that way you're not asking for anything you're proving you asking for anything you're proving you asking for anything you're proving you got skin the again hey I'm willing to got skin the again hey I'm willing to got skin the again hey I'm willing to take my time I'm willing to show that take my time I'm willing to show that take my time I'm willing to show that this makes a difference and then uh one this makes a difference and then uh one this makes a difference and then uh one alternative option and I call this alternative option and I call this alternative option and I call this practice change St stacking okay your practice change St stacking okay your practice change St stacking okay your alternative option is not just go to a alternative option is not just go to a alternative option is not just go to a new church okay noted oh I'll get to new church okay noted oh I'll get to new church okay noted oh I'll get to that so change stacking this basically

that so change stacking this basically that so change stacking this basically is it dub tailes off of everything that is it dub tailes off of everything that is it dub tailes off of everything that we just said but if you're like that's we just said but if you're like that's we just said but if you're like that's still not going to work this is kind of still not going to work this is kind of still not going to work this is kind of like a less abrasive or like a less abrasive or like a less abrasive or less less ambitious way of doing it so less less ambitious way of doing it so less less ambitious way of doing it so this is inspired by the work of this is inspired by the work of this is inspired by the work of Katherine Milkman PhD and her Fresh Katherine Milkman PhD and her Fresh Katherine Milkman PhD and her Fresh Start study and here's how it was Start study and here's how it was Start study and here's how it was articulated on a podcast that I was articulated on a podcast that I was articulated on a podcast that I was listening to by Dr Maya Shankar quote listening to by Dr Maya Shankar quote listening to by Dr Maya Shankar quote Life Changes like moving to another town Life Changes like moving to another town Life Changes like moving to another town buying a home for the first time or buying a home for the first time or buying a home for the first time or having children can serve as breaks from having children can serve as breaks from having children can serve as breaks from the past and the habits that we used to the past and the habits that we used to the past and the habits that we used to have a fresh start provides the have a fresh start provides the have a fresh start provides the motivation and impetus to reset and take motivation and impetus to reset and take motivation and impetus to reset and take on a new identity so here's how a new on a new identity so here's how a new on a new identity so here's how a new church I get it yeah senior leader church I get it yeah senior leader church I get it yeah senior leader please that's not it so here's how please that's not it so here's how please that's not it so here's how change stacking can work in your church change stacking can work in your church change stacking can work in your church let's take that philosophy that study let's take that philosophy that study let's take that philosophy that study apply it in Ministry stack Behavior apply it in Ministry stack Behavior apply it in Ministry stack Behavior change on the back of environment change change on the back of environment change change on the back of environment change so examples of this in the sense of so examples of this in the sense of so examples of this in the sense of environmental change new service times environmental change new service times environmental change new service times new building new staff who replaced you new building new staff who replaced you new building new staff who replaced you right after you right after you right after you left so what this might mean and this is left so what this might mean and this is left so what this might mean and this is why I suggested this as an alternative why I suggested this as an alternative why I suggested this as an alternative because it does require patience it because it does require patience it because it does require patience it might mean waiting to make that change might mean waiting to make that change might mean waiting to make that change that you've wanted to until there's a that you've wanted to until there's a that you've wanted to until there's a bigger environmental change in your bigger environmental change in your bigger environmental change in your church it'll be worth it in the long church it'll be worth it in the long church it'll be worth it in the long term though because the church during term though because the church during term though because the church during this reset period will be that much more this reset period will be that much more this reset period will be that much more to embrace this change because they're to embrace this change because they're to embrace this change because they're like hey we're taking on a new like hey we're taking on a new like hey we're taking on a new identity uh final note still not identity uh final note still not identity uh final note still not happening for you let it go or move on happening for you let it go or move on happening for you let it go or move on Let It Go meaning you did everything you

Let It Go meaning you did everything you Let It Go meaning you did everything you could right but you've hit a brick wall could right but you've hit a brick wall could right but you've hit a brick wall and at the end of the day you do not and at the end of the day you do not and at the end of the day you do not have the authority to make the final have the authority to make the final have the authority to make the final call you've done everything possible so call you've done everything possible so call you've done everything possible so you should let it go or if it's that big you should let it go or if it's that big you should let it go or if it's that big of a issue move on this change stacking of a issue move on this change stacking of a issue move on this change stacking though we have seen this in our church though we have seen this in our church though we have seen this in our church in huge degre so in the last couple of in huge degre so in the last couple of in huge degre so in the last couple of years we moved into this new building years we moved into this new building years we moved into this new building and it was a big building project anyone and it was a big building project anyone and it was a big building project anyone that's been been through that I mean is that's been been through that I mean is that's been been through that I mean is there ever a small building project there ever a small building project there ever a small building project probably not doesn't exist they're all probably not doesn't exist they're all probably not doesn't exist they're all like these massive undertakings and the like these massive undertakings and the like these massive undertakings and the way that our pastor has described it to way that our pastor has described it to way that our pastor has described it to me now it's like it's like everything we me now it's like it's like everything we me now it's like it's like everything we do it just turns to Gold it's the mest do it just turns to Gold it's the mest do it just turns to Gold it's the mest touch like we used to push so hard touch like we used to push so hard touch like we used to push so hard against like resistance from people we against like resistance from people we against like resistance from people we try this well what about this and he's try this well what about this and he's try this well what about this and he's now we're in this like new building and now we're in this like new building and now we're in this like new building and everyone's like we love it let's do it everyone's like we love it let's do it everyone's like we love it let's do it that is change TCH this is the Fresh that is change TCH this is the Fresh that is change TCH this is the Fresh Start study in action where we're in Start study in action where we're in Start study in action where we're in this new place and suddenly all the this new place and suddenly all the this new place and suddenly all the baggage all of the expectations all of baggage all of the expectations all of baggage all of the expectations all of this is how we always used to do it in this is how we always used to do it in this is how we always used to do it in the old place is gone and you might not the old place is gone and you might not the old place is gone and you might not get a new building right but it could get a new building right but it could get a new building right but it could just be a new staff member it could just just be a new staff member it could just just be a new staff member it could just be different service times there it be different service times there it be different service times there it could be new carpet we put a new carpet could be new carpet we put a new carpet could be new carpet we put a new carpet suddenly people are seeing the car the suddenly people are seeing the car the suddenly people are seeing the car the auditorium different the sanctuary looks auditorium different the sanctuary looks auditorium different the sanctuary looks different because the carpet changed different because the carpet changed different because the carpet changed everything oh now that's when this is everything oh now that's when this is everything oh now that's when this is the church equivalent of stacking a a the church equivalent of stacking a a the church equivalent of stacking a a good bill on top of a bunch of bad ones good bill on top of a bunch of bad ones good bill on top of a bunch of bad ones in Vol hey we're going to we're going to in Vol hey we're going to we're going to in Vol hey we're going to we're going to do this terrible thing it's like well do this terrible thing it's like well do this terrible thing it's like well can we also give more money to Veterans can we also give more money to Veterans can we also give more money to Veterans they're like fine yay they're like fine yay they're like fine yay you know I think I think a lot of you know I think I think a lot of you know I think I think a lot of churches experienced uh just such a a churches experienced uh just such a a churches experienced uh just such a a unique god-given opportunity to unique god-given opportunity to unique god-given opportunity to capitalize on this change stacking

capitalize on this change stacking capitalize on this change stacking Theory uh coming coming back and Theory uh coming coming back and Theory uh coming coming back and regathering after the the co 19 pandemic regathering after the the co 19 pandemic regathering after the the co 19 pandemic um like I know in our church um like I know in our church um like I know in our church specifically there were there were specifically there were there were specifically there were there were thoughts and dreams and hopes and thoughts and dreams and hopes and thoughts and dreams and hopes and changes that we had thrown around for a changes that we had thrown around for a changes that we had thrown around for a long time but um always met kind of the long time but um always met kind of the long time but um always met kind of the similar resistance that a lot of us feel similar resistance that a lot of us feel similar resistance that a lot of us feel churches which is that refrain of like churches which is that refrain of like churches which is that refrain of like well we've always done it this way or or well we've always done it this way or or well we've always done it this way or or that's too much too fast or this that that's too much too fast or this that that's too much too fast or this that the other whatever it is um but you know the other whatever it is um but you know the other whatever it is um but you know for us we had a we had a two-year break for us we had a we had a two-year break for us we had a we had a two-year break from inperson Services a lot of churches from inperson Services a lot of churches from inperson Services a lot of churches was shorter than that but any break kind was shorter than that but any break kind was shorter than that but any break kind of gave us all a moment to reflect and of gave us all a moment to reflect and of gave us all a moment to reflect and say like okay uh when we reather how are say like okay uh when we reather how are say like okay uh when we reather how are we going to do it why are we going to do we going to do it why are we going to do we going to do it why are we going to do it and what ways what changes are we it and what ways what changes are we it and what ways what changes are we going to make and it afforded us just going to make and it afforded us just going to make and it afforded us just this real like it felt almost like not this real like it felt almost like not this real like it felt almost like not entirely like a blank slate but we entirely like a blank slate but we entirely like a blank slate but we certainly had more freedom than we had certainly had more freedom than we had certainly had more freedom than we had ever had to enact some Chang that we had ever had to enact some Chang that we had ever had to enact some Chang that we had wanted to do for a long time but just um wanted to do for a long time but just um wanted to do for a long time but just um never had the opportunity to do and so never had the opportunity to do and so never had the opportunity to do and so at least anecdotally like we we really at least anecdotally like we we really at least anecdotally like we we really experienced that over the last handful experienced that over the last handful experienced that over the last handful of years and and it has just it's it's of years and and it has just it's it's of years and and it has just it's it's been such a good feeling to to put those been such a good feeling to to put those been such a good feeling to to put those things into practice and have have things into practice and have have things into practice and have have people on board to um to want to go people on board to um to want to go people on board to um to want to go after them and and for some reason it after them and and for some reason it after them and and for some reason it was that it was that time away that gave was that it was that time away that gave was that it was that time away that gave us that opportunity uh but like you said us that opportunity uh but like you said us that opportunity uh but like you said there are natural things that occur in there are natural things that occur in there are natural things that occur in the life of a church that present those the life of a church that present those the life of a church that present those opportunities as well we're thinking opportunities as well we're thinking opportunities as well we're thinking about uh changing the carpet in our about uh changing the carpet in our about uh changing the carpet in our church so maybe we'll get another shot church so maybe we'll get another shot church so maybe we'll get another shot in a couple months environmental change in a couple months environmental change in a couple months environmental change who does Alex and his church want to who does Alex and his church want to who does Alex and his church want to become I can hear people kind of become I can hear people kind of become I can hear people kind of dismissing this being like look the dismissing this being like look the dismissing this being like look the pandemic's in the past and and we're not pandemic's in the past and and we're not pandemic's in the past and and we're not getting a new building anytime soon and

getting a new building anytime soon and getting a new building anytime soon and we're not going to bring any new staff we're not going to bring any new staff we're not going to bring any new staff like it those are just examples if you like it those are just examples if you like it those are just examples if you begin looking for opportunities for begin looking for opportunities for begin looking for opportunities for environmental change you will find them environmental change you will find them environmental change you will find them every church has them they might not every church has them they might not every church has them they might not happen every year but every Church goes happen every year but every Church goes happen every year but every Church goes through environmental change stack through environmental change stack through environmental change stack behavioral change on top of it don't behavioral change on top of it don't behavioral change on top of it don't dismiss this idea it can be incredibly dismiss this idea it can be incredibly dismiss this idea it can be incredibly powerful you might never be able to powerful you might never be able to powerful you might never be able to convince senior leadership or perhaps convince senior leadership or perhaps convince senior leadership or perhaps more importantly convince the more importantly convince the more importantly convince the congregation as a whole of a type of congregation as a whole of a type of congregation as a whole of a type of change unless there's environmental change unless there's environmental change unless there's environmental change to basically be the springboard change to basically be the springboard change to basically be the springboard for it because if we're using this for it because if we're using this for it because if we're using this canvas idea it's a blank canvas do canvas idea it's a blank canvas do canvas idea it's a blank canvas do whatever you want on it the before the whatever you want on it the before the whatever you want on it the before the environmental change you have like this environmental change you have like this environmental change you have like this in many people's minds this beautiful in many people's minds this beautiful in many people's minds this beautiful picture yeah it's complete like wait picture yeah it's complete like wait picture yeah it's complete like wait wait you want to take the Mona Lisa and wait you want to take the Mona Lisa and wait you want to take the Mona Lisa and like soup on it how dare you it's a BL like soup on it how dare you it's a BL like soup on it how dare you it's a BL canvas throw soup he there's nothing canvas throw soup he there's nothing canvas throw soup he there's nothing there anyway yeah go for it this just there anyway yeah go for it this just there anyway yeah go for it this just brings something else to mind um you brings something else to mind um you brings something else to mind um you could take cues from seasonal changes as could take cues from seasonal changes as could take cues from seasonal changes as well um absolutely so like whether it's well um absolutely so like whether it's well um absolutely so like whether it's whether it's Christmas time like maybe whether it's Christmas time like maybe whether it's Christmas time like maybe if your church like our celebrates um if your church like our celebrates um if your church like our celebrates um kind of any elongated period of Advent kind of any elongated period of Advent kind of any elongated period of Advent you can the Advent Services take on a you can the Advent Services take on a you can the Advent Services take on a bit of a different nature than a regular bit of a different nature than a regular bit of a different nature than a regular service so you could take that service so you could take that service so you could take that opportunity that seasonal change of opportunity that seasonal change of opportunity that seasonal change of Rhythm to start a new practice in your Rhythm to start a new practice in your Rhythm to start a new practice in your Sunday service if that's what you're Sunday service if that's what you're Sunday service if that's what you're trying to do for us it actually happened trying to do for us it actually happened trying to do for us it actually happened earlier this year coming out of Easter earlier this year coming out of Easter earlier this year coming out of Easter and out of Pentecost in the lurgical and out of Pentecost in the lurgical and out of Pentecost in the lurgical Church calendar you enter into a Church calendar you enter into a Church calendar you enter into a six-month period of ordinary time and so six-month period of ordinary time and so six-month period of ordinary time and so right at the beginning of ordinary time right at the beginning of ordinary time right at the beginning of ordinary time we did a teaching on prayer and that was we did a teaching on prayer and that was we did a teaching on prayer and that was centered in the Book of Psalms just centered in the Book of Psalms just centered in the Book of Psalms just talking with our church about how the talking with our church about how the talking with our church about how the book of Psalms has historically been the

book of Psalms has historically been the book of Psalms has historically been the prayer book of of the Christian prayer book of of the Christian prayer book of of the Christian tradition and we're learning how to pray tradition and we're learning how to pray tradition and we're learning how to pray through the Psalms and so coming out of through the Psalms and so coming out of through the Psalms and so coming out of a season of of Pentecost and Easter and a season of of Pentecost and Easter and a season of of Pentecost and Easter and coming into a season of Summer that we coming into a season of Summer that we coming into a season of Summer that we call ordinary time we decided hey for a call ordinary time we decided hey for a call ordinary time we decided hey for a season we're going to open our worship season we're going to open our worship season we're going to open our worship service by praying a Psalm together so service by praying a Psalm together so service by praying a Psalm together so before we sing we stand on the screen we before we sing we stand on the screen we before we sing we stand on the screen we read a Psalm together and when we read a Psalm together and when we read a Psalm together and when we started doing it I was Leading the started doing it I was Leading the started doing it I was Leading the People saying I don't know how long People saying I don't know how long People saying I don't know how long we're going to do this but I assume we're going to do this but I assume we're going to do this but I assume it'll be for about the next six months it'll be for about the next six months it'll be for about the next six months during this ordinary time now we're during this ordinary time now we're during this ordinary time now we're almost 6 months into it and it's become almost 6 months into it and it's become almost 6 months into it and it's become an identity of our church we will not go an identity of our church we will not go an identity of our church we will not go back and so that that brief almost back and so that that brief almost back and so that that brief almost invisible seasonal change if you're not invisible seasonal change if you're not invisible seasonal change if you're not if you weren't looking for it gave us an if you weren't looking for it gave us an if you weren't looking for it gave us an opportunity to to actually shift the opportunity to to actually shift the opportunity to to actually shift the rhythm of our of our services one of the rhythm of our of our services one of the rhythm of our of our services one of the the Cornerstone pieces of of what we do the Cornerstone pieces of of what we do the Cornerstone pieces of of what we do as a church so um those environmental as a church so um those environmental as a church so um those environmental changes can be as big as you know uh a changes can be as big as you know uh a changes can be as big as you know uh a multi-million dollar building like at multi-million dollar building like at multi-million dollar building like at Central Church or as small as the Central Church or as small as the Central Church or as small as the Turning of the season from Spring to Turning of the season from Spring to Turning of the season from Spring to Summer and per case in point we just Summer and per case in point we just Summer and per case in point we just talked about looking for that talked about looking for that talked about looking for that environmental change and it immediately environmental change and it immediately environmental change and it immediately sprung an idea in your in your mind yeah sprung an idea in your in your mind yeah sprung an idea in your in your mind yeah so there you go next question hey Brady so there you go next question hey Brady so there you go next question hey Brady I have a few questions for you in regard I have a few questions for you in regard I have a few questions for you in regard to texting versus emails for churches to texting versus emails for churches to texting versus emails for churches I'd love your perspective on them if I'd love your perspective on them if I'd love your perspective on them if you've got some time well listener and you've got some time well listener and you've got some time well listener and questioner we have some time it's Church questioner we have some time it's Church questioner we have some time it's Church tool yeah would you ever consider mass tool yeah would you ever consider mass tool yeah would you ever consider mass texting communication as the primary texting communication as the primary texting communication as the primary vehicle for updates how many text vehicle for updates how many text vehicle for updates how many text updates are too many how would you updates are too many how would you updates are too many how would you decide what gets texted versus email to decide what gets texted versus email to decide what gets texted versus email to the whole church our emails have never the whole church our emails have never the whole church our emails have never performed well we've used text sparingly performed well we've used text sparingly performed well we've used text sparingly and the open and click rates have been and the open and click rates have been and the open and click rates have been great now our team wants to move all of

great now our team wants to move all of great now our team wants to move all of our most Central Communications from our most Central Communications from our most Central Communications from email to text I feel like that's a bit email to text I feel like that's a bit email to text I feel like that's a bit extreme would love to hear your extreme would love to hear your extreme would love to hear your perspective so let's set a baseline here perspective so let's set a baseline here perspective so let's set a baseline here for what good communication looks like for what good communication looks like for what good communication looks like in a church that's the 50% rule if it in a church that's the 50% rule if it in a church that's the 50% rule if it doesn't apply to more than 50% of the doesn't apply to more than 50% of the doesn't apply to more than 50% of the congregation it doesn't Merit churchwide congregation it doesn't Merit churchwide congregation it doesn't Merit churchwide Communications now traditionally we've Communications now traditionally we've Communications now traditionally we've discussed that in the context of discussed that in the context of discussed that in the context of announcements and email so if we're announcements and email so if we're announcements and email so if we're going all in with texting now we have to going all in with texting now we have to going all in with texting now we have to apply that same rule to churchwide apply that same rule to churchwide apply that same rule to churchwide texting and this was mentioned in the texting and this was mentioned in the texting and this was mentioned in the question but I do find this I find this question but I do find this I find this question but I do find this I find this interesting the idea of ministry interesting the idea of ministry interesting the idea of ministry specific texting because in our church specific texting because in our church specific texting because in our church Communications plan that you can find by Communications plan that you can find by Communications plan that you can find by searching Church Communications policy searching Church Communications policy searching Church Communications policy on Google or YouTube we talk about these on Google or YouTube we talk about these on Google or YouTube we talk about these rules and standards for communication rules and standards for communication rules and standards for communication that by nature of how they're set up that by nature of how they're set up that by nature of how they're set up kind of leave people going well then if kind of leave people going well then if kind of leave people going well then if we want to communicate with this group we want to communicate with this group we want to communicate with this group how do we do it and sometimes that can how do we do it and sometimes that can how do we do it and sometimes that can be challenging for people and there are be challenging for people and there are be challenging for people and there are so many different ways of doing it that so many different ways of doing it that so many different ways of doing it that are kind of unique to your church which are kind of unique to your church which are kind of unique to your church which is why we don't make like broad is why we don't make like broad is why we don't make like broad recommendations but Ministry specific recommendations but Ministry specific recommendations but Ministry specific texting that's interesting right like texting that's interesting right like texting that's interesting right like let's say you had a a small group let's say you had a a small group let's say you had a a small group Ministry and in that Ministry like Ministry and in that Ministry like Ministry and in that Ministry like you're not going to have announcements you're not going to have announcements you're not going to have announcements for that and you're not going to do like for that and you're not going to do like for that and you're not going to do like you know churchwide emails for that but you know churchwide emails for that but you know churchwide emails for that but within that specific small group you within that specific small group you within that specific small group you could have texts going on yeah could have texts going on yeah could have texts going on yeah interesting I do like uh I do like that interesting I do like uh I do like that interesting I do like uh I do like that idea I don't like texting for everything idea I don't like texting for everything idea I don't like texting for everything I would not want to send like the church I would not want to send like the church I would not want to send like the church newsletter via text when I think about newsletter via text when I think about newsletter via text when I think about the texts that I receive they are they the texts that I receive they are they the texts that I receive they are they are transactional in nature meaning hey

are transactional in nature meaning hey are transactional in nature meaning hey your uh you know door Dash is out for your uh you know door Dash is out for your uh you know door Dash is out for delivery or your uh mail thing just got delivery or your uh mail thing just got delivery or your uh mail thing just got cleared from Customs uh do you get any cleared from Customs uh do you get any cleared from Customs uh do you get any transactional text I get uh Tellus texts transactional text I get uh Tellus texts transactional text I get uh Tellus texts me and says your phone bill's ready me and says your phone bill's ready me and says your phone bill's ready that's another right which is not that's another right which is not that's another right which is not necessary but I get it anyways right necessary but I get it anyways right necessary but I get it anyways right that that that's another so those are that that that's another so those are that that that's another so those are all transactional in email we separate all transactional in email we separate all transactional in email we separate Communications by transactional email Communications by transactional email Communications by transactional email and marketing email so transactional and marketing email so transactional and marketing email so transactional email is anytime you the user have taken email is anytime you the user have taken email is anytime you the user have taken an action and then you need like an action and then you need like an action and then you need like basically confirmation of it so you basically confirmation of it so you basically confirmation of it so you submit a form you get a form receipt submit a form you get a form receipt submit a form you get a form receipt here's the form that you filled out you here's the form that you filled out you here's the form that you filled out you make a purchase here's a receipt for make a purchase here's a receipt for make a purchase here's a receipt for your purchase you ask for information your purchase you ask for information your purchase you ask for information from a company we've heard from you from a company we've heard from you from a company we've heard from you we'll get back to you soon that's we'll get back to you soon that's we'll get back to you soon that's transactional email marketing email is transactional email marketing email is transactional email marketing email is when a company by their own prerogative when a company by their own prerogative when a company by their own prerogative reaches out first and so that's like hey reaches out first and so that's like hey reaches out first and so that's like hey we got a discount code for this thing or we got a discount code for this thing or we got a discount code for this thing or we publish a new YouTube video hey we publish a new YouTube video hey we publish a new YouTube video hey here's the new YouTube video go check it here's the new YouTube video go check it here's the new YouTube video go check it out those are like both email but out those are like both email but out those are like both email but they're treated incredibly differently they're treated incredibly differently they're treated incredibly differently to the point where you want like to the point where you want like to the point where you want like different companies to do them for you different companies to do them for you different companies to do them for you so like if you get an email from nucleus so like if you get an email from nucleus so like if you get an email from nucleus after you fill out a form we do not use after you fill out a form we do not use after you fill out a form we do not use our marketing email company for that our marketing email company for that our marketing email company for that like our marketing email company we use like our marketing email company we use like our marketing email company we use like convert Kip and then our like convert Kip and then our like convert Kip and then our transaction I think we use like send transaction I think we use like send transaction I think we use like send Grid or AWS like they're completely Grid or AWS like they're completely Grid or AWS like they're completely different and and it's going to be different and and it's going to be different and and it's going to be interesting to see how text goes in the interesting to see how text goes in the interesting to see how text goes in the next little while because we remember next little while because we remember next little while because we remember when the spam folder became a thing in when the spam folder became a thing in when the spam folder became a thing in email and then from there what happened email and then from there what happened email and then from there what happened we got the promotions tab right Gmail

we got the promotions tab right Gmail we got the promotions tab right Gmail was like enough we got we got to break was like enough we got we got to break was like enough we got we got to break this up that's coming to text and this this up that's coming to text and this this up that's coming to text and this is the important thing that I think is is the important thing that I think is is the important thing that I think is worth mentioning these amazing open and worth mentioning these amazing open and worth mentioning these amazing open and click rates are not because text is like click rates are not because text is like click rates are not because text is like this pure communication method that will this pure communication method that will this pure communication method that will never be sullied by the marketers of the never be sullied by the marketers of the never be sullied by the marketers of the world no no it's just like it's the world no no it's just like it's the world no no it's just like it's the Virgin communication method that is Virgin communication method that is Virgin communication method that is going to be like Solly just like all the going to be like Solly just like all the going to be like Solly just like all the other well as far as Tellis is concerned other well as far as Tellis is concerned other well as far as Tellis is concerned my open rate is 100% on their bill texts my open rate is 100% on their bill texts my open rate is 100% on their bill texts and I never I never read them I'm just and I never I never read them I'm just and I never I never read them I'm just clearing out the notification I don't clearing out the notification I don't clearing out the notification I don't even know why I'm getting those texts in even know why I'm getting those texts in even know why I'm getting those texts in the first place I don't bother to go to the first place I don't bother to go to the first place I don't bother to go to tell us.com and change my preferences I tell us.com and change my preferences I tell us.com and change my preferences I just I just you know open it so it's just I just you know open it so it's just I just you know open it so it's read and I move on with my life it won't read and I move on with my life it won't read and I move on with my life it won't be long before you have like I iOS be long before you have like I iOS be long before you have like I iOS already does this with like spam texts already does this with like spam texts already does this with like spam texts that they try to identify but it won't that they try to identify but it won't that they try to identify but it won't be too long before like there are be too long before like there are be too long before like there are multiple tabs or some version of that multiple tabs or some version of that multiple tabs or some version of that because in the same way we had to do because in the same way we had to do because in the same way we had to do that with email we we we're going to that with email we we we're going to that with email we we we're going to have to do that with text now just have to do that with text now just have to do that with text now just because that's coming doesn't mean like because that's coming doesn't mean like because that's coming doesn't mean like we should not take advantage of the we should not take advantage of the we should not take advantage of the amazing opportunities that exist right amazing opportunities that exist right amazing opportunities that exist right now um I think Church text like all now um I think Church text like all now um I think Church text like all Church texts are great for like weather Church texts are great for like weather Church texts are great for like weather updates or urgent needs I think those uh updates or urgent needs I think those uh updates or urgent needs I think those uh are are are great and yeah I as to like some of the great and yeah I as to like some of the great and yeah I as to like some of the other smaller questions here how many other smaller questions here how many other smaller questions here how many text updates are too many like no more text updates are too many like no more text updates are too many like no more than two a week I would think oh yeah than two a week I would think oh yeah than two a week I would think oh yeah unless you're in like a number of unless you're in like a number of unless you're in like a number of different ones like I I it's really it's different ones like I I it's really it's different ones like I I it's really it's going to be Church dependent um but I'm going to be Church dependent um but I'm going to be Church dependent um but I'm with the questioner in the sense that with the questioner in the sense that with the questioner in the sense that going all in on text to abandon email is

going all in on text to abandon email is going all in on text to abandon email is uh I wouldn't do that because you know uh I wouldn't do that because you know uh I wouldn't do that because you know email has gone through some changes I email has gone through some changes I email has gone through some changes I think we'll get to that in the next think we'll get to that in the next think we'll get to that in the next question uh but it is still viable and question uh but it is still viable and question uh but it is still viable and what you wouldn't want to do is like what you wouldn't want to do is like what you wouldn't want to do is like completely abandon that um we're going completely abandon that um we're going completely abandon that um we're going to talk about like hey if your email to talk about like hey if your email to talk about like hey if your email open rates and click rates are suffering open rates and click rates are suffering open rates and click rates are suffering if they've never been that good some of if they've never been that good some of if they've never been that good some of the things that we can do to to get that the things that we can do to to get that the things that we can do to to get that back up um but I think using them in back up um but I think using them in back up um but I think using them in tandem would be the the ideal approach tandem would be the the ideal approach tandem would be the the ideal approach okay well then let's talk about it next okay well then let's talk about it next okay well then let's talk about it next question I've been scheduling our church question I've been scheduling our church question I've been scheduling our church emails for the past couple years emails for the past couple years emails for the past couple years following your tips and they've been following your tips and they've been following your tips and they've been great so far however as of late the open great so far however as of late the open great so far however as of late the open rates of the emails have gone rates of the emails have gone rates of the emails have gone significantly lower as well as click significantly lower as well as click significantly lower as well as click ratees since no one is opening them of ratees since no one is opening them of ratees since no one is opening them of course I'm not sure what has happened course I'm not sure what has happened course I'm not sure what has happened and if they're going to spam how can we and if they're going to spam how can we and if they're going to spam how can we get our congregants to change that thank get our congregants to change that thank get our congregants to change that thank you so Apple released mail privacy you so Apple released mail privacy you so Apple released mail privacy protection I believe in 2001 part of iOS protection I believe in 2001 part of iOS protection I believe in 2001 part of iOS 15 and what this feature did was 21 very 15 and what this feature did was 21 very 15 and what this feature did was 21 very nice it would prevent email marketers nice it would prevent email marketers nice it would prevent email marketers like Alex and me from using invisible like Alex and me from using invisible like Alex and me from using invisible pixels to collect information from pixels to collect information from pixels to collect information from recipients the byproduct of this was recipients the byproduct of this was recipients the byproduct of this was that open rates became unreliable that open rates became unreliable that open rates became unreliable because because because I think as of then and presumably as of I think as of then and presumably as of I think as of then and presumably as of now Apple Mail one of the most popular now Apple Mail one of the most popular now Apple Mail one of the most popular email clients according to litmus was email clients according to litmus was email clients according to litmus was used by 52% of all like email opens in used by 52% of all like email opens in used by 52% of all like email opens in 2021 wow so what that means is half of 2021 wow so what that means is half of 2021 wow so what that means is half of the emails that you would be sending no the emails that you would be sending no the emails that you would be sending no longer could give you accurate data as longer could give you accurate data as longer could give you accurate data as to whether or not the email was opened to whether or not the email was opened to whether or not the email was opened or not so what this person is observing

or not so what this person is observing or not so what this person is observing is like a a a pretty big change in is like a a a pretty big change in is like a a a pretty big change in overall Behavior with email because the overall Behavior with email because the overall Behavior with email because the big email clients were starting to say big email clients were starting to say big email clients were starting to say hey we need to advocate for our users a hey we need to advocate for our users a hey we need to advocate for our users a bit more because it hasn't happened with bit more because it hasn't happened with bit more because it hasn't happened with text yet but it has happened with email text yet but it has happened with email text yet but it has happened with email people are just like abusing email people are just like abusing email people are just like abusing email clients and thus the people that are clients and thus the people that are clients and thus the people that are getting punished from that suffering the getting punished from that suffering the getting punished from that suffering the The Fallout are our users so let's The Fallout are our users so let's The Fallout are our users so let's Implement new ways to protect them so a Implement new ways to protect them so a Implement new ways to protect them so a couple things that you can do here uh couple things that you can do here uh couple things that you can do here uh you might want to consider pruning your you might want to consider pruning your you might want to consider pruning your list uh pruning your list is an email list uh pruning your list is an email list uh pruning your list is an email practice where you basically kind of go practice where you basically kind of go practice where you basically kind of go through and most email clients can do through and most email clients can do through and most email clients can do this say hey if you haven't opened the this say hey if you haven't opened the this say hey if you haven't opened the email in the last 90 days 6 months email in the last 90 days 6 months email in the last 90 days 6 months whatever it might be removing people whatever it might be removing people whatever it might be removing people from the list altogether if someone is from the list altogether if someone is from the list altogether if someone is on the list but they are not doing on the list but they are not doing on the list but they are not doing anything they're hurting your list so anything they're hurting your list so anything they're hurting your list so yes one more number makes your list look yes one more number makes your list look yes one more number makes your list look that much nicer but you don't want them that much nicer but you don't want them that much nicer but you don't want them there like our email list right now is there like our email list right now is there like our email list right now is like 46,000 at Pro Church tools it's like 46,000 at Pro Church tools it's like 46,000 at Pro Church tools it's been as high as 70,000 yeah um and been as high as 70,000 yeah um and been as high as 70,000 yeah um and Beyond but we consistently prune and for Beyond but we consistently prune and for Beyond but we consistently prune and for a while we never prune so we just had a while we never prune so we just had a while we never prune so we just had this number going up up and up and then this number going up up and up and then this number going up up and up and then I was like wait a minute minute there's I was like wait a minute minute there's I was like wait a minute minute there's probably some junk here and then we probably some junk here and then we probably some junk here and then we continually prune once or twice a year continually prune once or twice a year continually prune once or twice a year and you know now we're kind of hovering and you know now we're kind of hovering and you know now we're kind of hovering around 40 50,000 but that list is highly around 40 50,000 but that list is highly around 40 50,000 but that list is highly engaged and that's what we want I would engaged and that's what we want I would engaged and that's what we want I would much prefer 500 highly engaged email much prefer 500 highly engaged email much prefer 500 highly engaged email subscribers then 2,000 and only 500 are subscribers then 2,000 and only 500 are subscribers then 2,000 and only 500 are highly engaged so those other 1500 what highly engaged so those other 1500 what highly engaged so those other 1500 what they're doing is they are punishing the they're doing is they are punishing the they're doing is they are punishing the 500 that actually care so it is your 500 that actually care so it is your 500 that actually care so it is your duty to remove those 1500 if they don't

duty to remove those 1500 if they don't duty to remove those 1500 if they don't want to be there and that's the key what want to be there and that's the key what want to be there and that's the key what you can do and we always do this is we you can do and we always do this is we you can do and we always do this is we send a series of emails before we remove send a series of emails before we remove send a series of emails before we remove them and I love when I get emails from them and I love when I get emails from them and I love when I get emails from companies that are doing the same thing companies that are doing the same thing companies that are doing the same thing they're like hey you're not following they're like hey you're not following they're like hey you're not following our emails no that that's fine like no our emails no that that's fine like no our emails no that that's fine like no uh no problem there um we're going to uh no problem there um we're going to uh no problem there um we're going to remove you if you don't want to be remove you if you don't want to be remove you if you don't want to be removed just click the link in this removed just click the link in this removed just click the link in this email and they're basically giving me email and they're basically giving me email and they're basically giving me the opportunity every time I do that the opportunity every time I do that the opportunity every time I do that probably 10% of people click and stay on probably 10% of people click and stay on probably 10% of people click and stay on the email list and the other 90% are the email list and the other 90% are the email list and the other 90% are probably like I didn't see this email so probably like I didn't see this email so probably like I didn't see this email so I don't care I don't care or hey this is I don't care I don't care or hey this is I don't care I don't care or hey this is actually great like they're respecting actually great like they're respecting actually great like they're respecting my time they're respecting like their my time they're respecting like their my time they're respecting like their time and that also if you're paying per time and that also if you're paying per time and that also if you're paying per user on your email client is a a great user on your email client is a a great user on your email client is a a great way to not pay for people that shouldn't way to not pay for people that shouldn't way to not pay for people that shouldn't be there in the first be there in the first be there in the first place another thing that I begun doing place another thing that I begun doing place another thing that I begun doing in my emails is asking for replies so in in my emails is asking for replies so in in my emails is asking for replies so in the first email that we send out to the first email that we send out to the first email that we send out to every new subscriber there's a PS that every new subscriber there's a PS that every new subscriber there's a PS that says hey you know email sucks today says hey you know email sucks today says hey you know email sucks today could you reply to this email and just could you reply to this email and just could you reply to this email and just say hey Brady takes you 8 seconds and say hey Brady takes you 8 seconds and say hey Brady takes you 8 seconds and really makes a difference every day I really makes a difference every day I really makes a difference every day I receive probably 10 of those emails and receive probably 10 of those emails and receive probably 10 of those emails and I reply to every single one because I reply to every single one because I reply to every single one because kicking off a new relationship that way kicking off a new relationship that way kicking off a new relationship that way is a very positive signal for the email is a very positive signal for the email is a very positive signal for the email client because now I'm justs emailsemail client because now I'm justs emailsemail client because now I'm justs emailsemail Andes and I've seen marketers and Andes and I've seen marketers and Andes and I've seen marketers and newsletters do this and and I plan on newsletters do this and and I plan on newsletters do this and and I plan on implementing more of this they're asking implementing more of this they're asking implementing more of this they're asking for replies in every single email not for replies in every single email not for replies in every single email not just that first one and you as the just that first one and you as the just that first one and you as the church can do the same that's one way to church can do the same that's one way to church can do the same that's one way to boost kind of your deliverability boost kind of your deliverability boost kind of your deliverability profile because you're not just sending profile because you're not just sending profile because you're not just sending out emails you're getting replies so out emails you're getting replies so out emails you're getting replies so people like what you have to say final people like what you have to say final people like what you have to say final thing you want to abide by the 50% rule thing you want to abide by the 50% rule thing you want to abide by the 50% rule again so if you're sending a bunch of

again so if you're sending a bunch of again so if you're sending a bunch of emails that are not not relevant to most emails that are not not relevant to most emails that are not not relevant to most people on the list that would over time people on the list that would over time people on the list that would over time create the environment where people are create the environment where people are create the environment where people are no longer even paying attention no longer even paying attention no longer even paying attention whatsoever this is why the 50% rule is whatsoever this is why the 50% rule is whatsoever this is why the 50% rule is so crucial because if you continually so crucial because if you continually so crucial because if you continually neglect it you're conditioning your neglect it you're conditioning your neglect it you're conditioning your church to neglect your Communications church to neglect your Communications church to neglect your Communications because they're not of value they're not because they're not of value they're not because they're not of value they're not even related to their needs and their even related to their needs and their even related to their needs and their wants at the end of the day all of this wants at the end of the day all of this wants at the end of the day all of this communication comes down to trust we can communication comes down to trust we can communication comes down to trust we can like hack things on the margins we can like hack things on the margins we can like hack things on the margins we can follow best practices but what are you follow best practices but what are you follow best practices but what are you doing to build trust doing to build trust doing to build trust with people and this can be challenging with people and this can be challenging with people and this can be challenging in Tech in the world of digital but in Tech in the world of digital but in Tech in the world of digital but every person on the other side of a text every person on the other side of a text every person on the other side of a text on the other side of an email is a real on the other side of an email is a real on the other side of an email is a real person and in our conversations that are person and in our conversations that are person and in our conversations that are day-to-day we do not treat them in the day-to-day we do not treat them in the day-to-day we do not treat them in the same way we treat digital where we're same way we treat digital where we're same way we treat digital where we're trying to like hack everything like oh trying to like hack everything like oh trying to like hack everything like oh email like automatic huge open rates I'm email like automatic huge open rates I'm email like automatic huge open rates I'm just going to like send whatever because just going to like send whatever because just going to like send whatever because it always works look at the numbers it always works look at the numbers it always works look at the numbers right over time though that will erode right over time though that will erode right over time though that will erode trust and look at what people are trust and look at what people are trust and look at what people are dealing with on the Fallout of email dealing with on the Fallout of email dealing with on the Fallout of email that's in part perhaps because of that's in part perhaps because of that's in part perhaps because of churches and how they've treated email churches and how they've treated email churches and how they've treated email eroding trust but also in part to our eroding trust but also in part to our eroding trust but also in part to our culture as a whole and marketers as a culture as a whole and marketers as a culture as a whole and marketers as a whole that have eroded trust in email as whole that have eroded trust in email as whole that have eroded trust in email as a medium altogether by abusing it that's a medium altogether by abusing it that's a medium altogether by abusing it that's going to happen to text as well you can going to happen to text as well you can going to happen to text as well you can try to be the email list that goes try to be the email list that goes try to be the email list that goes against the norm you can try to be the against the norm you can try to be the against the norm you can try to be the text list that goes against the norm and text list that goes against the norm and text list that goes against the norm and that's what we as churches should be that's what we as churches should be that's what we as churches should be striving for that's what we at pro-

striving for that's what we at pro- striving for that's what we at pro- church tools strive for but it all church tools strive for but it all church tools strive for but it all starts with trust and there's nothing starts with trust and there's nothing starts with trust and there's nothing you can do on the margins that would you can do on the margins that would you can do on the margins that would undo that very very sound principle I undo that very very sound principle I undo that very very sound principle I recently referred to us for the first recently referred to us for the first recently referred to us for the first time as the pastor and the pragmatist time as the pastor and the pragmatist time as the pastor and the pragmatist which uh by the way proposing a name which uh by the way proposing a name which uh by the way proposing a name change to the podcast the pastor and the change to the podcast the pastor and the change to the podcast the pastor and the pragmatist uh I think that's on like a pragmatist uh I think that's on like a pragmatist uh I think that's on like a future episode so you are now the future episode so you are now the future episode so you are now the prophetic Pastor in the pragmatist how prophetic Pastor in the pragmatist how prophetic Pastor in the pragmatist how about that um but the thing that I love about that um but the thing that I love about that um but the thing that I love most about email and those are very good most about email and those are very good most about email and those are very good pragmatic pragmatic um you know tips and pragmatic pragmatic um you know tips and pragmatic pragmatic um you know tips and tactics to use in ensuring good tactics to use in ensuring good tactics to use in ensuring good deliverability but specifically for like deliverability but specifically for like deliverability but specifically for like asking for replies as a pastor when I asking for replies as a pastor when I asking for replies as a pastor when I send out an email I send out a bi-weekly send out an email I send out a bi-weekly send out an email I send out a bi-weekly newsletter when I ask for replies that newsletter when I ask for replies that newsletter when I ask for replies that not only serves pragmatically to um not only serves pragmatically to um not only serves pragmatically to um increase deliverability and build trust increase deliverability and build trust increase deliverability and build trust with email clients and and you know the with email clients and and you know the with email clients and and you know the internets but it opens the door wide internets but it opens the door wide internets but it opens the door wide open to a brand new conversation with open to a brand new conversation with open to a brand new conversation with the folks that I really care about who the folks that I really care about who the folks that I really care about who I'm sending these emails to um just I'm sending these emails to um just I'm sending these emails to um just recently I I sent out an an email and recently I I sent out an an email and recently I I sent out an an email and put a PS uh something in my newsletter put a PS uh something in my newsletter put a PS uh something in my newsletter was about music and so my PS was like was about music and so my PS was like was about music and so my PS was like hey um let me know what song you're hey um let me know what song you're hey um let me know what song you're listening to today or this week listening to today or this week listening to today or this week something like that and I just got something like that and I just got something like that and I just got flooded with replies and that opened the flooded with replies and that opened the flooded with replies and that opened the the door so it it serves to build trust the door so it it serves to build trust the door so it it serves to build trust with the email provider which is great with the email provider which is great with the email provider which is great but it also contributed to building but it also contributed to building but it also contributed to building relationship and trust with the real relationship and trust with the real relationship and trust with the real folks that I was talking to all of a folks that I was talking to all of a folks that I was talking to all of a sudden I'm having conversations with

sudden I'm having conversations with sudden I'm having conversations with folks in our Church of all ages that I folks in our Church of all ages that I folks in our Church of all ages that I wouldn't have normally had on that wouldn't have normally had on that wouldn't have normally had on that Tuesday afternoon and it's because I I Tuesday afternoon and it's because I I Tuesday afternoon and it's because I I snuck in I sent my newsletter as always snuck in I sent my newsletter as always snuck in I sent my newsletter as always do but I snuck in hey go ahead and reply do but I snuck in hey go ahead and reply do but I snuck in hey go ahead and reply to this email and let me know what song to this email and let me know what song to this email and let me know what song you're listening to and so not only did you're listening to and so not only did you're listening to and so not only did I build trust in those relationships I build trust in those relationships I build trust in those relationships with those people now uh one of our one with those people now uh one of our one with those people now uh one of our one of our church members sent me a song of our church members sent me a song of our church members sent me a song that I never heard of which is shocking that I never heard of which is shocking that I never heard of which is shocking because I listen to more music than because I listen to more music than because I listen to more music than anyone in this office and uh it has that anyone in this office and uh it has that anyone in this office and uh it has that song has had a measurable impact on me song has had a measurable impact on me song has had a measurable impact on me in the last few weeks so like it it's in the last few weeks so like it it's in the last few weeks so like it it's it's both pragmatic and pastoral to to it's both pragmatic and pastoral to to it's both pragmatic and pastoral to to use email and I'm sure you could find a use email and I'm sure you could find a use email and I'm sure you could find a way to use text this way but to use way to use text this way but to use way to use text this way but to use email this way not just as a means for email this way not just as a means for email this way not just as a means for communication but as a means for communication but as a means for communication but as a means for relationship as well while also doing relationship as well while also doing relationship as well while also doing best practices to build trust with the best practices to build trust with the best practices to build trust with the email providers at the same email providers at the same email providers at the same time moving on question four for the time moving on question four for the time moving on question four for the cheap skate guy with no fashion sense cheap skate guy with no fashion sense cheap skate guy with no fashion sense what advice do you have so self- what advice do you have so self- what advice do you have so self- declared no fashion sense from this declared no fashion sense from this declared no fashion sense from this gentleman the only thing that matters in gentleman the only thing that matters in gentleman the only thing that matters in style is understanding how clothes fit style is understanding how clothes fit style is understanding how clothes fit your your your body I think people typically believe body I think people typically believe body I think people typically believe that clothes don't look good on them the that clothes don't look good on them the that clothes don't look good on them the reality is clothes off the rack look reality is clothes off the rack look reality is clothes off the rack look good on a very very small number of good on a very very small number of good on a very very small number of people every this has been the biggest people every this has been the biggest people every this has been the biggest Revelation to me in respect to to style Revelation to me in respect to to style Revelation to me in respect to to style and fashion when you understand what and fashion when you understand what and fashion when you understand what Silhouettes flatter your body type and

Silhouettes flatter your body type and Silhouettes flatter your body type and the fact that oh my legs are a bit the fact that oh my legs are a bit the fact that oh my legs are a bit longer than my torso or my torso is a longer than my torso or my torso is a longer than my torso or my torso is a bit longer than my legs oh I'm a shorter bit longer than my legs oh I'm a shorter bit longer than my legs oh I'm a shorter guy I'm a taller guy I'm a thicker build guy I'm a taller guy I'm a thicker build guy I'm a taller guy I'm a thicker build I'm a skinny build I'm a athletic build I'm a skinny build I'm a athletic build I'm a skinny build I'm a athletic build like there's a million different like there's a million different like there's a million different permutations of all these different permutations of all these different permutations of all these different combinations yeah those mannequins don't combinations yeah those mannequins don't combinations yeah those mannequins don't look anything like us and and once you look anything like us and and once you look anything like us and and once you and once you know like how things are and once you know like how things are and once you know like how things are meant to fit on you suddenly like it's meant to fit on you suddenly like it's meant to fit on you suddenly like it's like the scales fall off your eyes and like the scales fall off your eyes and like the scales fall off your eyes and you're like oh so for instance this you're like oh so for instance this you're like oh so for instance this flannel this is a cheaper flannel and I flannel this is a cheaper flannel and I flannel this is a cheaper flannel and I wanted I wanted a flannel for for fall wanted I wanted a flannel for for fall wanted I wanted a flannel for for fall right of course right and and I didn't right of course right and and I didn't right of course right and and I didn't want to spend money on one so I actually want to spend money on one so I actually want to spend money on one so I actually had this like in uh like my old closet had this like in uh like my old closet had this like in uh like my old closet just sitting there I was going to donate just sitting there I was going to donate just sitting there I was going to donate it and I went in and I was like you know it and I went in and I was like you know it and I went in and I was like you know what I'm going to take this to the what I'm going to take this to the what I'm going to take this to the tailor because it was too long on the tailor because it was too long on the tailor because it was too long on the sleeves and it was much too long like it sleeves and it was much too long like it sleeves and it was much too long like it was down to like my mid thigh and I was was down to like my mid thigh and I was was down to like my mid thigh and I was like who who is this tall like even no like who who is this tall like even no like who who is this tall like even no one is actually this tall this is for one is actually this tall this is for one is actually this tall this is for Giannis so I go I get it way shorter and Giannis so I go I get it way shorter and Giannis so I go I get it way shorter and I get the sleeve shorter and suddenly I get the sleeve shorter and suddenly I get the sleeve shorter and suddenly fits great brand new shirt it fit fits great brand new shirt it fit fits great brand new shirt it fit terribly when I first got it and so that terribly when I first got it and so that terribly when I first got it and so that that's a good example now you might say that's a good example now you might say that's a good example now you might say okay but how do I know what fits me well okay but how do I know what fits me well okay but how do I know what fits me well and I think there are really two and I think there are really two and I think there are really two approaches to this one you can find approaches to this one you can find approaches to this one you can find someone and this is what makes Tik Tok someone and this is what makes Tik Tok someone and this is what makes Tik Tok and YouTube so great find someone with a and YouTube so great find someone with a and YouTube so great find someone with a similar build as you similar size as you similar build as you similar size as you similar build as you similar size as you and see what they're doing this is this and see what they're doing this is this and see what they're doing this is this was tremendously helpful for me found was tremendously helpful for me found was tremendously helpful for me found some like 58 dudes and they were like oh some like 58 dudes and they were like oh some like 58 dudes and they were like oh this is how I wear things I was like

this is how I wear things I was like this is how I wear things I was like okay and you just start to understand okay and you just start to understand okay and you just start to understand like oh like I Britney asked me the like oh like I Britney asked me the like oh like I Britney asked me the other day my wife asked me she's like other day my wife asked me she's like other day my wife asked me she's like like why why is it taking us like until like why why is it taking us like until like why why is it taking us like until our 30s to kind of like figure out our our 30s to kind of like figure out our our 30s to kind of like figure out our style and I was like uh because we grew style and I was like uh because we grew style and I was like uh because we grew up in a farm town and no one in our up in a farm town and no one in our up in a farm town and no one in our family is stylish like I I have I have a family is stylish like I I have I have a family is stylish like I I have I have a stylish Aunt oh shouts to my aunt she stylish Aunt oh shouts to my aunt she stylish Aunt oh shouts to my aunt she started listening to the podcast T Lisa started listening to the podcast T Lisa started listening to the podcast T Lisa I'm not telling tant Lisa is stylish I'm not telling tant Lisa is stylish I'm not telling tant Lisa is stylish just because no I have a stylish ant um just because no I have a stylish ant um just because no I have a stylish ant um like my parents no there there's no one like my parents no there there's no one like my parents no there there's no one stylish in my family and then I grew up stylish in my family and then I grew up stylish in my family and then I grew up in like a potato farming small town and in like a potato farming small town and in like a potato farming small town and so like there wasn't any like semblance so like there wasn't any like semblance so like there wasn't any like semblance of fashion there it was just like cowboy of fashion there it was just like cowboy of fashion there it was just like cowboy hats and like whatever so what happens hats and like whatever so what happens hats and like whatever so what happens in in in in what happens in high school in in in in what happens in high school in in in in what happens in high school is you start emulating like what you is you start emulating like what you is you start emulating like what you care about I was dressing like all the care about I was dressing like all the care about I was dressing like all the bands that I liked I was dressing like bands that I liked I was dressing like bands that I liked I was dressing like the worship leaders that I liked and the worship leaders that I liked and the worship leaders that I liked and that was a big step forward not because that was a big step forward not because that was a big step forward not because those clothes fit me well but because at those clothes fit me well but because at those clothes fit me well but because at least I was like hey there's someone I least I was like hey there's someone I least I was like hey there's someone I like and I'm going to model them the the like and I'm going to model them the the like and I'm going to model them the the eventual step is when you realize like eventual step is when you realize like eventual step is when you realize like how things are meant to fit you another how things are meant to fit you another how things are meant to fit you another way of doing this and I like this one is way of doing this and I like this one is way of doing this and I like this one is if you find a store that will have free if you find a store that will have free if you find a store that will have free shipping and returns just like max out shipping and returns just like max out shipping and returns just like max out your credit card and buy everything and your credit card and buy everything and your credit card and buy everything and then try on everything and what you'll then try on everything and what you'll then try on everything and what you'll what will happen is you'll stumble upon what will happen is you'll stumble upon what will happen is you'll stumble upon something that fits well like oh off the something that fits well like oh off the something that fits well like oh off the rack this is pretty good you can feel it rack this is pretty good you can feel it rack this is pretty good you can feel it like it's hard to articulate like like it's hard to articulate like like it's hard to articulate like obviously you can see it but when you obviously you can see it but when you obviously you can see it but when you put it on and it's like like the put it on and it's like like the put it on and it's like like the shoulders are like you know you put on a shoulders are like you know you put on a shoulders are like you know you put on a t-shirt it's a little heavier and the t-shirt it's a little heavier and the t-shirt it's a little heavier and the shoulders are a little dropped it's like

shoulders are a little dropped it's like shoulders are a little dropped it's like oh like this is I feel I feel oh like this is I feel I feel oh like this is I feel I feel comfortable I feel good about myself comfortable I feel good about myself comfortable I feel good about myself before I even look in the mirror you before I even look in the mirror you before I even look in the mirror you know it's going to look good because of know it's going to look good because of know it's going to look good because of how it feels absolutely yeah and I I how it feels absolutely yeah and I I how it feels absolutely yeah and I I know that I like a drop shoulder and if know that I like a drop shoulder and if know that I like a drop shoulder and if you're watching this Alex is wearing a you're watching this Alex is wearing a you're watching this Alex is wearing a crew neck with a drop shoulder it's not crew neck with a drop shoulder it's not crew neck with a drop shoulder it's not a big drop shoulder but it's a drop a big drop shoulder but it's a drop a big drop shoulder but it's a drop shoulder because the tip of his shoulder shoulder because the tip of his shoulder shoulder because the tip of his shoulder is not on the seam I am wearing a is not on the seam I am wearing a is not on the seam I am wearing a flannel where the tip of my shoulder is flannel where the tip of my shoulder is flannel where the tip of my shoulder is on the scene and I said this earlier on the scene and I said this earlier on the scene and I said this earlier outside uh in the office there's one outside uh in the office there's one outside uh in the office there's one thing I don't love about this shirt is thing I don't love about this shirt is thing I don't love about this shirt is that it's not a drop shoulder flannel I that it's not a drop shoulder flannel I that it's not a drop shoulder flannel I have I do have another drop shoulder have I do have another drop shoulder have I do have another drop shoulder flannel it's way heavier way too heavy flannel it's way heavier way too heavy flannel it's way heavier way too heavy for right now you know right now for right now you know right now for right now you know right now transition season it's all about layers transition season it's all about layers transition season it's all about layers I need to be able to take this off and I need to be able to take this off and I need to be able to take this off and go t-shirt only if it gets too warm but go t-shirt only if it gets too warm but go t-shirt only if it gets too warm but in the morning when I'm walking out I in the morning when I'm walking out I in the morning when I'm walking out I need this so that's the one thing I need this so that's the one thing I need this so that's the one thing I don't love about this how did I discover don't love about this how did I discover don't love about this how did I discover that well one day I put on a drop that well one day I put on a drop that well one day I put on a drop shoulder for the first time I was like shoulder for the first time I was like shoulder for the first time I was like oh this is flattering I like this for me oh this is flattering I like this for me oh this is flattering I like this for me interesting cuz I'm I like I I have more interesting cuz I'm I like I I have more interesting cuz I'm I like I I have more narrow shoulders I'm not like a big guy narrow shoulders I'm not like a big guy narrow shoulders I'm not like a big guy a drop shoulder it just makes your a drop shoulder it just makes your a drop shoulder it just makes your shoulders a bit broader so like oh water shoulders a bit broader so like oh water shoulders a bit broader so like oh water shoulders make you look a little bit shoulders make you look a little bit shoulders make you look a little bit stronger make you look a little bit more stronger make you look a little bit more stronger make you look a little bit more masculine I didn't know that when I put masculine I didn't know that when I put masculine I didn't know that when I put on the drop shoulder I was like huh on the drop shoulder I was like huh on the drop shoulder I was like huh there something about this and I like there something about this and I like there something about this and I like don't know what it is you can kind of don't know what it is you can kind of don't know what it is you can kind of start to understand now when I wear a start to understand now when I wear a start to understand now when I wear a flannel like this it doesn't have the flannel like this it doesn't have the flannel like this it doesn't have the drop shoulder I'm wearing more of a slim drop shoulder I'm wearing more of a slim drop shoulder I'm wearing more of a slim silhouette today I couldn't wear like a silhouette today I couldn't wear like a silhouette today I couldn't wear like a non-rop shoulder flannel with like baggy non-rop shoulder flannel with like baggy non-rop shoulder flannel with like baggy jeans what am I an jeans what am I an jeans what am I an idiot why because they would just be in idiot why because they would just be in idiot why because they would just be in congruent and so understanding how they congruent and so understanding how they congruent and so understanding how they all fit together so yeah Max everything all fit together so yeah Max everything all fit together so yeah Max everything up and then you put on something you up and then you put on something you up and then you put on something you don't know what fits or you don't know don't know what fits or you don't know don't know what fits or you don't know why why does this feel so good and then

why why does this feel so good and then why why does this feel so good and then it's really kind of your just your job it's really kind of your just your job it's really kind of your just your job to be detective and figure out what is to be detective and figure out what is to be detective and figure out what is it about this is it the length is it it about this is it the length is it it about this is it the length is it where the shoulders drop is it the color where the shoulders drop is it the color where the shoulders drop is it the color is it the texture is it the fabric is it is it the texture is it the fabric is it is it the texture is it the fabric is it you know some type of combination of any you know some type of combination of any you know some type of combination of any one of those things what is it and uh one of those things what is it and uh one of those things what is it and uh figuring it out from there now women figuring it out from there now women figuring it out from there now women know this they call this a hul call a I know this they call this a hul call a I know this they call this a hul call a I got my Sheen haul they film themselves got my Sheen haul they film themselves got my Sheen haul they film themselves and put it on the internet so man like and put it on the internet so man like and put it on the internet so man like just you know don't film it if you don't just you know don't film it if you don't just you know don't film it if you don't want to probably not but like buy all want to probably not but like buy all want to probably not but like buy all this stuff with the intention of sending this stuff with the intention of sending this stuff with the intention of sending every single thing back and spending Z every single thing back and spending Z every single thing back and spending Z but learning a ton of valuable insights but learning a ton of valuable insights but learning a ton of valuable insights you might find one of those things fits you might find one of those things fits you might find one of those things fits well two great things you'll get gain an well two great things you'll get gain an well two great things you'll get gain an insight about what about this fabric insight about what about this fabric insight about what about this fabric what about this piece works for me and what about this piece works for me and what about this piece works for me and two are there more pieces from this two are there more pieces from this two are there more pieces from this company and do I now know oh in a medium company and do I now know oh in a medium company and do I now know oh in a medium at this company they they tend to like at this company they they tend to like at this company they they tend to like fit better with me you might also get fit better with me you might also get fit better with me you might also get something that's really close yeah I something that's really close yeah I something that's really close yeah I have some jeans that fit really well way have some jeans that fit really well way have some jeans that fit really well way uh but they're almost always too long uh but they're almost always too long uh but they're almost always too long because I'm I'm a shorty at 58 and they because I'm I'm a shorty at 58 and they because I'm I'm a shorty at 58 and they and jeans are made for six foot dudes so and jeans are made for six foot dudes so and jeans are made for six foot dudes so I'll buy the jeans they fit great in the I'll buy the jeans they fit great in the I'll buy the jeans they fit great in the thigh in the seat in the waist and I'm thigh in the seat in the waist and I'm thigh in the seat in the waist and I'm always getting them tailored at the always getting them tailored at the always getting them tailored at the bottom like no don't expect clothes to bottom like no don't expect clothes to bottom like no don't expect clothes to fit you that's the biggest thing take fit you that's the biggest thing take fit you that's the biggest thing take anything away from this question don't anything away from this question don't anything away from this question don't expect clothes to fit you because what expect clothes to fit you because what expect clothes to fit you because what happens is if you expect them to fit you happens is if you expect them to fit you happens is if you expect them to fit you you start to think you're the problem you start to think you're the problem you start to think you're the problem something's wrong with me and sure like something's wrong with me and sure like something's wrong with me and sure like you know we could all probably oh lose a you know we could all probably oh lose a you know we could all probably oh lose a bit of weight like gain a bit more bit of weight like gain a bit more bit of weight like gain a bit more muscle like you know walk a little bit muscle like you know walk a little bit muscle like you know walk a little bit more get a little more movement get a more get a little more movement get a more get a little more movement get a little bit taller right but or just find little bit taller right but or just find little bit taller right but or just find clothes that fit you after doing some clothes that fit you after doing some clothes that fit you after doing some alterations that's the biggest thing alterations that's the biggest thing alterations that's the biggest thing find yourself a tailor okay I'm going to find yourself a tailor okay I'm going to find yourself a tailor okay I'm going to put you on a spot I'm a I'm a cheap put you on a spot I'm a I'm a cheap put you on a spot I'm a I'm a cheap skate guy with no fashion sense okay so

skate guy with no fashion sense okay so skate guy with no fashion sense okay so recommend me an online store that is recommend me an online store that is recommend me an online store that is Affordable in a sense that it's not on Affordable in a sense that it's not on Affordable in a sense that it's not on the on the on the bougie end of the the on the on the bougie end of the the on the on the bougie end of the spectrum but it's also not like Fast spectrum but it's also not like Fast spectrum but it's also not like Fast fashion it's not Sheen yeah where I fashion it's not Sheen yeah where I fashion it's not Sheen yeah where I should go online and I should max out should go online and I should max out should go online and I should max out credit card well the trendy option is credit card well the trendy option is credit card well the trendy option is definitely a cromie yeah they they're definitely a cromie yeah they they're definitely a cromie yeah they they're coming back they are for our age group coming back they are for our age group coming back they are for our age group really kind of locked in on the style really kind of locked in on the style really kind of locked in on the style and they now in Canada their returns and they now in Canada their returns and they now in Canada their returns they can take a while to hit and I don't they can take a while to hit and I don't they can take a while to hit and I don't buy from them very much anymore because buy from them very much anymore because buy from them very much anymore because of this because I'll get something I'll of this because I'll get something I'll of this because I'll get something I'll send it back and it'll be like four send it back and it'll be like four send it back and it'll be like four weeks before I get a return now in the weeks before I get a return now in the weeks before I get a return now in the states it's very different so if you're states it's very different so if you're states it's very different so if you're a Canadian listening to this maybe a Canadian listening to this maybe a Canadian listening to this maybe consider a Franken Oak that's where this consider a Franken Oak that's where this consider a Franken Oak that's where this flannel is from you know they're they're flannel is from you know they're they're flannel is from you know they're they're not too fashion forward they're kind of not too fashion forward they're kind of not too fashion forward they're kind of like hey okay I'm taking a step forward like hey okay I'm taking a step forward like hey okay I'm taking a step forward but like maybe I'm not ready for a drop but like maybe I'm not ready for a drop but like maybe I'm not ready for a drop shoulder okay that that's fine shoulder okay that that's fine shoulder okay that that's fine um but then abomi you know what's cheap um but then abomi you know what's cheap um but then abomi you know what's cheap you know all even the fast fashioned you know all even the fast fashioned you know all even the fast fashioned places like you know Zara is like crazy places like you know Zara is like crazy places like you know Zara is like crazy expensive somehow we talk about how expensive somehow we talk about how expensive somehow we talk about how Zara's website is the most Zara's website is the most Zara's website is the most insufferable website I think I've ever insufferable website I think I've ever insufferable website I think I've ever been on so Zara does have free shipping been on so Zara does have free shipping been on so Zara does have free shipping and returns and their app is outstanding and returns and their app is outstanding and returns and their app is outstanding and they ship like same day it's like and they ship like same day it's like and they ship like same day it's like Amazon seen anything like your house so Amazon seen anything like your house so Amazon seen anything like your house so fast but their website I it's so funny fast but their website I it's so funny fast but their website I it's so funny we're having this conversation cuz I was we're having this conversation cuz I was we're having this conversation cuz I was on their website last week cuz I'm like on their website last week cuz I'm like on their website last week cuz I'm like oh you know it's fall I want some new oh you know it's fall I want some new oh you know it's fall I want some new fall pieces that was my first that was fall pieces that was my first that was fall pieces that was my first that was my first move let's go to Zara braid I my first move let's go to Zara braid I my first move let's go to Zara braid I was on the website for somewhere between was on the website for somewhere between was on the website for somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes trying my best to get

5 and 10 minutes trying my best to get 5 and 10 minutes trying my best to get to what I wanted to see where I wanted to what I wanted to see where I wanted to what I wanted to see where I wanted to go I quit I'm like this this is that to go I quit I'm like this this is that to go I quit I'm like this this is that bad and I should say you know sometimes bad and I should say you know sometimes bad and I should say you know sometimes you try on something and it's so bad you try on something and it's so bad you try on something and it's so bad that there's no hope and that's Zara for that there's no hope and that's Zara for that there's no hope and that's Zara for me I have almost no pieces from Zara me I have almost no pieces from Zara me I have almost no pieces from Zara they don't even remotely fit my body you they don't even remotely fit my body you they don't even remotely fit my body you know normally you try something okay know normally you try something okay know normally you try something okay this is pretty good here and here it this is pretty good here and here it this is pretty good here and here it just needs to be fixed here when you're just needs to be fixed here when you're just needs to be fixed here when you're newer you'll try on something and like newer you'll try on something and like newer you'll try on something and like this is made for a different spe that's okay you're not the problem uh that's okay you're not the problem uh Zara Rebecca loves Zara and we love Zara Zara Rebecca loves Zara and we love Zara Zara Rebecca loves Zara and we love Zara for Asher because tradition like in our for Asher because tradition like in our for Asher because tradition like in our experience cute boys clothes are a lot experience cute boys clothes are a lot experience cute boys clothes are a lot harder to find than cute girls clothes harder to find than cute girls clothes harder to find than cute girls clothes Zar has been great for us oh just want Zar has been great for us oh just want Zar has been great for us oh just want to say anyone um that's having a kid to say anyone um that's having a kid to say anyone um that's having a kid name your daughter Stacy okay I have no name your daughter Stacy okay I have no name your daughter Stacy okay I have no plans on having a third child we have no plans on having a third child we have no plans on having a third child we have no shortage of girls names Stacy needs to shortage of girls names Stacy needs to shortage of girls names Stacy needs to come back it's a great name okay okay come back it's a great name okay okay come back it's a great name okay okay it's a great name I'm even open to Tracy it's a great name I'm even open to Tracy it's a great name I'm even open to Tracy wow I'm I'm open to it Diana I'm open to wow I'm I'm open to it Diana I'm open to wow I'm I'm open to it Diana I'm open to it it it okay not related not related to the okay not related not related to the okay not related not related to the former question or the next I'm 36 now former question or the next I'm 36 now former question or the next I'm 36 now and really starting to understand what and really starting to understand what and really starting to understand what it's like to be left in the dust it's like to be left in the dust it's like to be left in the dust socially as new trends come faster and socially as new trends come faster and socially as new trends come faster and fast speaking about clothes you can fast speaking about clothes you can fast speaking about clothes you can really feel left in the dust with with really feel left in the dust with with really feel left in the dust with with fashion sometimes but uh take heart fashion sometimes but uh take heart fashion sometimes but uh take heart fashion always comes back around does it fashion always comes back around does it fashion always comes back around does it not do us Elder Millennials keep up stay not do us Elder Millennials keep up stay not do us Elder Millennials keep up stay relevant and fresh without becoming relevant and fresh without becoming relevant and fresh without becoming cringey or overdoing things I used to be cringey or overdoing things I used to be cringey or overdoing things I used to be uh I used to be the one who was up on uh I used to be the one who was up on uh I used to be the one who was up on all the latest and greatest but now I'm all the latest and greatest but now I'm all the latest and greatest but now I'm still trying to figure out things that still trying to figure out things that still trying to figure out things that are considered outdated sorry I don't are considered outdated sorry I don't are considered outdated sorry I don't ever like I don't ever ever like I don't ever ever like I don't ever grammaticized these questions sometimes

grammaticized these questions sometimes grammaticized these questions sometimes I do today I've never we've never gotten I do today I've never we've never gotten I do today I've never we've never gotten a question that's readable never gotten a question that's readable never gotten a question that's readable never gotten even one that was like close to even one that was like close to even one that was like close to readable so really practically like real readable so really practically like real readable so really practically like real exposure to younger Generations helps exposure to younger Generations helps exposure to younger Generations helps with this and I think before Tik Tok with this and I think before Tik Tok with this and I think before Tik Tok before YouTube it wasn't like before YouTube it wasn't like before YouTube it wasn't like Generations were very much insulated Generations were very much insulated Generations were very much insulated from other Generations right like your from other Generations right like your from other Generations right like your exposure to other Generations would be exposure to other Generations would be exposure to other Generations would be like when you go to like Christmas like when you go to like Christmas like when you go to like Christmas Thanksgiving meal timely and like your Thanksgiving meal timely and like your Thanksgiving meal timely and like your younger cousin is there and you're like younger cousin is there and you're like younger cousin is there and you're like oh what are you what what speaking of oh what are you what what speaking of oh what are you what what speaking of speaking of Tona Lisa every time we go speaking of Tona Lisa every time we go speaking of Tona Lisa every time we go to Thanksgiving her kids who are 10 to Thanksgiving her kids who are 10 to Thanksgiving her kids who are 10 years younger than like Sierra like what years younger than like Sierra like what years younger than like Sierra like what are the kids up to and she's just like are the kids up to and she's just like are the kids up to and she's just like how about you go away go back to the how about you go away go back to the how about you go away go back to the grownup table yeah seriously but but grownup table yeah seriously but but grownup table yeah seriously but but like you can follow people on Tik Tok like you can follow people on Tik Tok like you can follow people on Tik Tok and on YouTube or even not and just be and on YouTube or even not and just be and on YouTube or even not and just be exposed to culture and kind of like see exposed to culture and kind of like see exposed to culture and kind of like see like how things are happening you know like how things are happening you know like how things are happening you know and you can get like cross generational and you can get like cross generational and you can get like cross generational beefs like TI to Jen's pretty good at beefs like TI to Jen's pretty good at beefs like TI to Jen's pretty good at letting us Millennials know what's wrong letting us Millennials know what's wrong letting us Millennials know what's wrong with us and then you know we're not with us and then you know we're not with us and then you know we're not great at dishing it back because like I great at dishing it back because like I great at dishing it back because like I don't know why um but that that can be don't know why um but that that can be don't know why um but that that can be useful I also think like what what parts useful I also think like what what parts useful I also think like what what parts of being left in the desk are we like of being left in the desk are we like of being left in the desk are we like worried about because there is something worried about because there is something worried about because there is something to be said by to be said by to be said by like I I don't know when I came to like I I don't know when I came to like I I don't know when I came to realize this but I was like oh realize this but I was like oh realize this but I was like oh my parents dress the way they dress my my parents dress the way they dress my my parents dress the way they dress my parents are a bad example they can't parents are a bad example they can't parents are a bad example they can't dress oh you know what though H my dad's dress oh you know what though H my dad's dress oh you know what though H my dad's my dad's new wife Aaron okay she dresses

my dad's new wife Aaron okay she dresses my dad's new wife Aaron okay she dresses nicely good sense of style City girl nicely good sense of style City girl nicely good sense of style City girl that's true yeah uh also Asian yeah so that's true yeah uh also Asian yeah so that's true yeah uh also Asian yeah so just across the board better dressers just across the board better dressers just across the board better dressers than the whites and us so she dresses than the whites and us so she dresses than the whites and us so she dresses well but she doesn't dress my age right well but she doesn't dress my age right well but she doesn't dress my age right but she's not dressing for people my age but she's not dressing for people my age but she's not dressing for people my age she's dressing for her age group and she's dressing for her age group and she's dressing for her age group and this is where like there's a distinction this is where like there's a distinction this is where like there's a distinction between the person and we'll use fashion between the person and we'll use fashion between the person and we'll use fashion as the example here but it applies to as the example here but it applies to as the example here but it applies to vernacular it applies to virtually vernacular it applies to virtually vernacular it applies to virtually anything there's a difference between anything there's a difference between anything there's a difference between like your you were cool when you were 28 like your you were cool when you were 28 like your you were cool when you were 28 and you've just been dressing and living and you've just been dressing and living and you've just been dressing and living that way since and you're 45 and you're that way since and you're 45 and you're that way since and you're 45 and you're dressing like a 45-year-old who's dressing like a 45-year-old who's dressing like a 45-year-old who's stylish and those are two different stylish and those are two different stylish and those are two different things so I think it's okay one's a things so I think it's okay one's a things so I think it's okay one's a youth pastor and one's a senior pastor youth pastor and one's a senior pastor youth pastor and one's a senior pastor you're right right y oh y it's okay to you're right right y oh y it's okay to you're right right y oh y it's okay to be left in the dust with like vernacular be left in the dust with like vernacular be left in the dust with like vernacular you know you don't need to you don't you know you don't need to you don't you know you don't need to you don't need to do the hello how do how how does need to do the hello how do how how does need to do the hello how do how how does how do you do fellow kids and try to how do you do fellow kids and try to how do you do fellow kids and try to like fit in um you don't want to put on like fit in um you don't want to put on like fit in um you don't want to put on and be cringey you put on and be cringey and be cringey you put on and be cringey and be cringey you put on and be cringey which is what this questioner asked when which is what this questioner asked when which is what this questioner asked when you're when you're some when you're not you're when you're some when you're not you're when you're some when you're not that doesn't mean though that like oh that doesn't mean though that like oh that doesn't mean though that like oh everyone is moving away from skinny everyone is moving away from skinny everyone is moving away from skinny jeans like unless it's like your jeans like unless it's like your jeans like unless it's like your personality trait to be like this is me personality trait to be like this is me personality trait to be like this is me and then by all means like you know do and then by all means like you know do and then by all means like you know do you oh the trend is we're mov into a you oh the trend is we're mov into a you oh the trend is we're mov into a more relaxed fit okay so you don't need more relaxed fit okay so you don't need more relaxed fit okay so you don't need to wear like the baggy jeans that Jen Z to wear like the baggy jeans that Jen Z to wear like the baggy jeans that Jen Z is wearing but like relax the fit a bit is wearing but like relax the fit a bit is wearing but like relax the fit a bit and then suddenly like you're kind of and then suddenly like you're kind of and then suddenly like you're kind of like in so there's a difference between like in so there's a difference between like in so there's a difference between oh one more thing I like to pick and

oh one more thing I like to pick and oh one more thing I like to pick and choose the trends like there are a choose the trends like there are a choose the trends like there are a hundred Trends you could figure out hundred Trends you could figure out hundred Trends you could figure out across Tech across fashion across across Tech across fashion across across Tech across fashion across language across TV like you just kind of language across TV like you just kind of language across TV like you just kind of like want to pick a few that make sense like want to pick a few that make sense like want to pick a few that make sense for you like you know one thing I've for you like you know one thing I've for you like you know one thing I've always liked when people take the always liked when people take the always liked when people take the handkerchief and they like tie a knot handkerchief and they like tie a knot handkerchief and they like tie a knot and they wear it around their neck I and they wear it around their neck I and they wear it around their neck I don't think it looks good good on me cuz don't think it looks good good on me cuz don't think it looks good good on me cuz I have a really small head M so I don't I have a really small head M so I don't I have a really small head M so I don't do that M but I like it but that's not a do that M but I like it but that's not a do that M but I like it but that's not a trend I can do right so that's another trend I can do right so that's another trend I can do right so that's another aspect to it picking and choosing and aspect to it picking and choosing and aspect to it picking and choosing and staying on top of things and then if staying on top of things and then if staying on top of things and then if it's just like skills like you know it's just like skills like you know it's just like skills like you know YouTube yeah right like if a social YouTube yeah right like if a social YouTube yeah right like if a social platform comes along like yeah you just platform comes along like yeah you just platform comes along like yeah you just got to do the work but I mean we got to do the work but I mean we got to do the work but I mean we experienced that on Tik Tok right like experienced that on Tik Tok right like experienced that on Tik Tok right like we as a company as as Brady Shear on in we as a company as as Brady Shear on in we as a company as as Brady Shear on in on Tik Tok we've been on Tik Tok for on Tik Tok we've been on Tik Tok for on Tik Tok we've been on Tik Tok for like for years now like for quite a like for years now like for quite a like for years now like for quite a while and at the beginning we tried to while and at the beginning we tried to while and at the beginning we tried to do what the kids were doing and it came do what the kids were doing and it came do what the kids were doing and it came off a little bit like felt a little forc off a little bit like felt a little forc off a little bit like felt a little forc felt a little cringy but we stayed on felt a little cringy but we stayed on felt a little cringy but we stayed on the platform and have really found our the platform and have really found our the platform and have really found our place on the platform so we're like place on the platform so we're like place on the platform so we're like we're there we're not doing what the we're there we're not doing what the we're there we're not doing what the 16-year-olds are doing on Tik Tok 16-year-olds are doing on Tik Tok 16-year-olds are doing on Tik Tok because that would just feel you know to because that would just feel you know to because that would just feel you know to the questioner a little cringey a little the questioner a little cringey a little the questioner a little cringey a little bit a little bit forced but we're still bit a little bit forced but we're still bit a little bit forced but we're still there we're in the vicinity we're being there we're in the vicinity we're being there we're in the vicinity we're being informed by like what what the youngans informed by like what what the youngans informed by like what what the youngans are up to but also being age appropriate are up to but also being age appropriate are up to but also being age appropriate for like for 30-year-old men on Tik Tok for like for 30-year-old men on Tik Tok for like for 30-year-old men on Tik Tok that's a great point we were doing that's a great point we were doing that's a great point we were doing things that weren't us at that point things that weren't us at that point things that weren't us at that point because Tik Tok was really only that at because Tik Tok was really only that at because Tik Tok was really only that at that point yeah but if we were doing that point yeah but if we were doing that point yeah but if we were doing exactly what we're doing now on Tik Tok exactly what we're doing now on Tik Tok exactly what we're doing now on Tik 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which feels natural it still wouldn't which feels natural it still wouldn't have felt natural then right right have felt natural then right right have felt natural then right right anytime you do something new it'll feel anytime you do something new it'll feel anytime you do something new it'll feel weird back to Fashion anytime you put on weird back to Fashion anytime you put on weird back to Fashion anytime you put on a new piece of clothing and walk out of a new piece of clothing and walk out of a new piece of clothing and walk out of the house you ask yourself like am I an the house you ask yourself like am I an the house you ask yourself like am I an idiot yeah you ask yourself like this idiot yeah you ask yourself like this idiot yeah you ask yourself like this isn't me mhm maybe it wasn't until now isn't me mhm maybe it wasn't until now isn't me mhm maybe it wasn't until now but like what I can tell you is like the but like what I can tell you is like the but like what I can tell you is like the more you dress one way people around you more you dress one way people around you more you dress one way people around you adapt like the first time you your wife adapt like the first time you your wife adapt like the first time you your wife goes goes goes like okay and and then a week or two like okay and and then a week or two like okay and and then a week or two later you're wearing it confidently like later you're wearing it confidently like later you're wearing it confidently like that really does look good on you I like that really does look good on you I like that really does look good on you I like that people have expectations of you you that people have expectations of you you that people have expectations of you you have expectations of yourself but those have expectations of yourself but those have expectations of yourself but those things are fluid the worst thing you can things are fluid the worst thing you can things are fluid the worst thing you can do is like assume this is who I am do is like assume this is who I am do is like assume this is who I am because this is who I've always been because this is who I've always been because this is who I've always been every generation every age group every every generation every age group every every generation every age group every time you hit a new decade you are time you hit a new decade you are time you hit a new decade you are Reinventing yourself you can either Reinventing yourself you can either Reinventing yourself you can either reinvent yourself proactively or be reinvent yourself proactively or be reinvent yourself proactively or be forced to reinvent Yourself by the forced to reinvent Yourself by the forced to reinvent Yourself by the nature of changes that are happening nature of changes that are happening nature of changes that are happening around you I think being proactive is around you I think being proactive is around you I think being proactive is ideal all right moving on from Fashion ideal all right moving on from Fashion ideal all right moving on from Fashion next question we've been posting sermon next question we've been posting sermon next question we've been posting sermon shorts for a few months to Instagram shorts for a few months to Instagram shorts for a few months to Instagram YouTube and Facebook we don't have a Tik YouTube and Facebook we don't have a Tik YouTube and Facebook we don't have a Tik Tok account as of yet since we have a Tok account as of yet since we have a Tok account as of yet since we have a backlog of content we could post would backlog of content we could post would backlog of content we could post would it make sense to join Tik Tok and start it make sense to join Tik Tok and start it make sense to join Tik Tok and start posting or is it too late I've gotten posting or is it too late I've gotten posting or is it too late I've gotten this question three times this week this question three times this week this question three times this week already and the really easy answer is already and the really easy answer is already and the really easy answer is yeah just just join Tik Tok and post yeah just just join Tik Tok and post yeah just just join Tik Tok and post right you're creating content already right you're creating content already right you're creating content already for these other platforms just post it's for these other platforms just post it's for these other platforms just post it's interesting we work with you know more interesting we work with you know more interesting we work with you know more than 100 churches at Social sermons I than 100 churches at Social sermons I than 100 churches at Social sermons I can never predict nor can the church can never predict nor can the church can never predict nor can the church which platform is going to be the best which platform is going to be the best which platform is going to be the best for them right sometimes it's Facebook

for them right sometimes it's Facebook for them right sometimes it's Facebook sometimes it's Instagram sometimes it's sometimes it's Instagram sometimes it's sometimes it's Instagram sometimes it's Tik Tok sometimes it's YouTube so Tik Tok sometimes it's YouTube so Tik Tok sometimes it's YouTube so published all four and just see yeah and published all four and just see yeah and published all four and just see yeah and it's what's the risk you like you took it's what's the risk you like you took it's what's the risk you like you took three extra seconds to hit publish on a three extra seconds to hit publish on a three extra seconds to hit publish on a different platform yeah yeah do it different platform yeah yeah do it different platform yeah yeah do it I love this question I love all the I love this question I love all the I love this question I love all the questions but I love this one what's the questions but I love this one what's the questions but I love this one what's the most interesting fact about your family most interesting fact about your family most interesting fact about your family histories how about you go first sure histories how about you go first sure histories how about you go first sure I'm talking a lot yeah um so I was born I'm talking a lot yeah um so I was born I'm talking a lot yeah um so I was born and raised here in nagron the lake this and raised here in nagron the lake this and raised here in nagron the lake this a small little historical town right at a small little historical town right at a small little historical town right at the mouth of the nager river you can see the mouth of the nager river you can see the mouth of the nager river you can see uh Youngstown New York right across the uh Youngstown New York right across the uh Youngstown New York right across the river you can see the big Fort uh where river you can see the big Fort uh where river you can see the big Fort uh where you know there a lot of um battles were you know there a lot of um battles were you know there a lot of um battles were fought in the War of 18 lots of History fought in the War of 18 lots of History fought in the War of 18 lots of History here who won that war it's Up For here who won that war it's Up For here who won that war it's Up For Debate is it uh hey my wife just passed Debate is it uh hey my wife just passed Debate is it uh hey my wife just passed a Canadian citizenship test she she is a Canadian citizenship test she she is a Canadian citizenship test she she is an American was an American when they an American was an American when they an American was an American when they asked her who won that war what did she asked her who won that war what did she asked her who won that war what did she say on the uh she she she very say on the uh she she she very say on the uh she she she very confidently said it was the the British confidently said it was the the British confidently said it was the the British the Canadians that's right that's right the Canadians that's right that's right the Canadians that's right that's right um and so I was born and raised here and um and so I was born and raised here and um and so I was born and raised here and so were my grandparents on both sides so were my grandparents on both sides so were my grandparents on both sides they actually grew up around the corner they actually grew up around the corner they actually grew up around the corner from each other and those are the only from each other and those are the only from each other and those are the only two houses I ever knew of theirs they two houses I ever knew of theirs they two houses I ever knew of theirs they they lived and and died in those homes they lived and and died in those homes they lived and and died in those homes all the way up until the end uh so we we all the way up until the end uh so we we all the way up until the end uh so we we just been here and on my mom's side my just been here and on my mom's side my just been here and on my mom's side my her grandparents my great-grandparents her grandparents my great-grandparents her grandparents my great-grandparents were Italian immigrants and the way the were Italian immigrants and the way the were Italian immigrants and the way the story goes is that I don't know how big story goes is that I don't know how big story goes is that I don't know how big the town of nager on the lake was back

the town of nager on the lake was back the town of nager on the lake was back then you know early 1900s um but it's then you know early 1900s um but it's then you know early 1900s um but it's small now so I'm sure it was Tiny then small now so I'm sure it was Tiny then small now so I'm sure it was Tiny then like tiny then to the point where when like tiny then to the point where when like tiny then to the point where when my dad was a teenager he was riding his my dad was a teenager he was riding his my dad was a teenager he was riding his horse downtown and buckling it up at at horse downtown and buckling it up at at horse downtown and buckling it up at at the Marino which is my mom's family the the Marino which is my mom's family the the Marino which is my mom's family the Marino grocery store like on the street Marino grocery store like on the street Marino grocery store like on the street like it's a western this is my dad this like it's a western this is my dad this like it's a western this is my dad this is my dad's lifetime This is 40 years is my dad's lifetime This is 40 years is my dad's lifetime This is 40 years ago so I don't know what was going on ago so I don't know what was going on ago so I don't know what was going on when my great-grandparents got here and when my great-grandparents got here and when my great-grandparents got here and there weren't too many people and I say there weren't too many people and I say there weren't too many people and I say all that to say that they were actually all that to say that they were actually all that to say that they were actually one of the first like immigrant families one of the first like immigrant families one of the first like immigrant families to settle in n on the lake um English to settle in n on the lake um English to settle in n on the lake um English was not their first language I'm not was not their first language I'm not was not their first language I'm not even confident that they spoke English even confident that they spoke English even confident that they spoke English um at that time and so just you know um at that time and so just you know um at that time and so just you know this Italian humble Italian family this Italian humble Italian family this Italian humble Italian family trying to find their way in Canada I trying to find their way in Canada I trying to find their way in Canada I don't know what brought them here my don't know what brought them here my don't know what brought them here my Aunt Mary Ellen would probably know I Aunt Mary Ellen would probably know I Aunt Mary Ellen would probably know I should ask her she doesn't listen to the should ask her she doesn't listen to the should ask her she doesn't listen to the podcast that's tough um so they open a podcast that's tough um so they open a podcast that's tough um so they open a grocery store and uh my grocery store and uh my grocery store and uh my great-grandfather's name was Peter which great-grandfather's name was Peter which great-grandfather's name was Peter which is where I get my middle name from and is where I get my middle name from and is where I get my middle name from and so like we have this my mom has this so like we have this my mom has this so like we have this my mom has this painting of the grocery store in the painting of the grocery store in the painting of the grocery store in the main street or you see his the Peter's main street or you see his the Peter's main street or you see his the Peter's you know grocery up on the on the wall you know grocery up on the on the wall you know grocery up on the on the wall my grandfather's a child he's sitting on my grandfather's a child he's sitting on my grandfather's a child he's sitting on the stoop it's it's cool um but yeah my the stoop it's it's cool um but yeah my the stoop it's it's cool um but yeah my grand my great-grandparents are one of grand my great-grandparents are one of grand my great-grandparents are one of the first um immigrant families to the first um immigrant families to the first um immigrant families to settle here in this town of n on the settle here in this town of n on the settle here in this town of n on the lake where I grew up which I just I find lake where I grew up which I just I find lake where I grew up which I just I find it's really meaningful to me it's it's it's really meaningful to me it's it's it's really meaningful to me it's it's you know immigration is is pretty far you know immigration is is pretty far you know immigration is is pretty far removed from from my actual context with removed from from my actual context with removed from from my actual context with the exception of my wife who immigrated the exception of my wife who immigrated the exception of my wife who immigrated here from from the states but like you here from from the states but like you here from from the states but like you know what I mean immigration like that know what I mean immigration like that know what I mean immigration like that where you you leave your country of where you you leave your country of where you you leave your country of origin to start a new life a new family origin to start a new life a new family origin to start a new life a new family new beginning and I take a lot of pride

new beginning and I take a lot of pride new beginning and I take a lot of pride in that being my my family history um in that being my my family history um in that being my my family history um but my mom's actually adopted she was but my mom's actually adopted she was but my mom's actually adopted she was adopted into that family and my mom is adopted into that family and my mom is adopted into that family and my mom is also Italian by heritage also Italian by heritage also Italian by heritage and so she's so Italian that she fits and so she's so Italian that she fits and so she's so Italian that she fits into her adopted family my my my into her adopted family my my my into her adopted family my my my grandparents family so well she fits grandparents family so well she fits grandparents family so well she fits like a glove she looks just like them like a glove she looks just like them like a glove she looks just like them and so looking at her and looking at the and so looking at her and looking at the and so looking at her and looking at the family and how they related to each family and how they related to each family and how they related to each other you would never know that she's other you would never know that she's other you would never know that she's adopted to the point where um my first adopted to the point where um my first adopted to the point where um my first cousin so my mom's brother's son we're cousin so my mom's brother's son we're cousin so my mom's brother's son we're about the same age we're three months about the same age we're three months about the same age we're three months apart growing up we always got told oh apart growing up we always got told oh apart growing up we always got told oh we can tell you guys are cousins you we can tell you guys are cousins you we can tell you guys are cousins you look so much alike which is which is look so much alike which is which is look so much alike which is which is amazing cuz we don't share any blood uh amazing cuz we don't share any blood uh amazing cuz we don't share any blood uh cuz my mom the only adopted one into cuz my mom the only adopted one into cuz my mom the only adopted one into that family um so that's my mom's family that family um so that's my mom's family that family um so that's my mom's family history in this town and and as Italian history in this town and and as Italian history in this town and and as Italian immigrants and and I guess just you know immigrants and and I guess just you know immigrants and and I guess just you know one of those humble stories of of folks one of those humble stories of of folks one of those humble stories of of folks who who left their country of origin for who who left their country of origin for who who left their country of origin for one reason or another and and took a one reason or another and and took a one reason or another and and took a chance to start a new life in a language chance to start a new life in a language chance to start a new life in a language where or in a in a country where they where or in a in a country where they where or in a in a country where they didn't speak the language and built a didn't speak the language and built a didn't speak the language and built a life in a in a place where now I life in a in a place where now I life in a in a place where now I continue to to live and work and and all continue to to live and work and and all continue to to live and work and and all that family's gone now my I never knew that family's gone now my I never knew that family's gone now my I never knew my great-grandparents and my my my great-grandparents and my my my great-grandparents and my my grandparents are all gone but uh those grandparents are all gone but uh those grandparents are all gone but uh those houses are still there we don't own them houses are still there we don't own them houses are still there we don't own them but they're still there and and we still but they're still there and and we still but they're still there and and we still regularly go down and and walk downtown regularly go down and and walk downtown regularly go down and and walk downtown I'll my mom or my my dad will just tell I'll my mom or my my dad will just tell I'll my mom or my my dad will just tell stories all the time about the history stories all the time about the history stories all the time about the history of growing up there and and seeing my of growing up there and and seeing my of growing up there and and seeing my great-grandfather on the stoop of the of great-grandfather on the stoop of the of great-grandfather on the stoop of the of the grocery store smoking a cigar and the grocery store smoking a cigar and the grocery store smoking a cigar and driving his Cadillac around and that's a driving his Cadillac around and that's a driving his Cadillac around and that's a little bit of a story of my family's

little bit of a story of my family's little bit of a story of my family's Italian Heritage in this little you know Italian Heritage in this little you know Italian Heritage in this little you know quiet corner of Canada I've been quiet corner of Canada I've been quiet corner of Canada I've been watching a lot of um Boston mafia movies watching a lot of um Boston mafia movies watching a lot of um Boston mafia movies lately um The Departed the town The lately um The Departed the town The lately um The Departed the town The Equalizer ever get into any uh you know Equalizer ever get into any uh you know Equalizer ever get into any uh you know some like less than uh above board some like less than uh above board some like less than uh above board activity not personally but I have heard activity not personally but I have heard activity not personally but I have heard rumors I love this that there was there rumors I love this that there was there rumors I love this that there was there was some some Mafia activity that's cool was some some Mafia activity that's cool was some some Mafia activity that's cool in my family of Origins so cannot in my family of Origins so cannot in my family of Origins so cannot confirm or deny that uh but i' I've confirm or deny that uh but i' I've confirm or deny that uh but i' I've heard the rumors well Alex comes from a heard the rumors well Alex comes from a heard the rumors well Alex comes from a violent background not myself not myself violent background not myself not myself violent background not myself not myself you come from from the the peacemakers you come from from the the peacemakers you come from from the the peacemakers yes so my family's men andite and uh you yes so my family's men andite and uh you yes so my family's men andite and uh you know our history is you know nobody know our history is you know nobody know our history is you know nobody wants us the Dutch were like get out so wants us the Dutch were like get out so wants us the Dutch were like get out so we went to Germany and they're like not we went to Germany and they're like not we went to Germany and they're like not so much and then we were in you know I so much and then we were in you know I so much and then we were in you know I don't know if it's Russia Prussia Soviet don't know if it's Russia Prussia Soviet don't know if it's Russia Prussia Soviet Union that area and um they're like no Union that area and um they're like no Union that area and um they're like no no get out of here and every time like no get out of here and every time like no get out of here and every time like things would go bad because we're like things would go bad because we're like things would go bad because we're like oh we're just these peaceful little oh we're just these peaceful little oh we're just these peaceful little nonviolent we love the Lord and they're nonviolent we love the Lord and they're nonviolent we love the Lord and they're like get out of here so we were trying like get out of here so we were trying like get out of here so we were trying the amonites were trying to come to the amonites were trying to come to the amonites were trying to come to Canada and they're like no we don't want Canada and they're like no we don't want Canada and they're like no we don't want you either and then a new prime minister you either and then a new prime minister you either and then a new prime minister came into Power I think it was in the came into Power I think it was in the came into Power I think it was in the 20s and then he was finally okay fine 20s and then he was finally okay fine 20s and then he was finally okay fine the menites can come here we're going to the menites can come here we're going to the menites can come here we're going to give them Manitoba just cold and good give them Manitoba just cold and good give them Manitoba just cold and good luck hey good luck to you so we end up luck hey good luck to you so we end up luck hey good luck to you so we end up in Manitoba which is you know above the in Manitoba which is you know above the in Manitoba which is you know above the dtas and it's you know terrible and dtas and it's you know terrible and dtas and it's you know terrible and everyone speaks German because that was everyone speaks German because that was everyone speaks German because that was the language that we kept and you know

the language that we kept and you know the language that we kept and you know we all kind of hang out in Manitoba and we all kind of hang out in Manitoba and we all kind of hang out in Manitoba and that was where you know my grandparents that was where you know my grandparents that was where you know my grandparents were born and uh they you know created were born and uh they you know created were born and uh they you know created their own life there we're still in their own life there we're still in their own life there we're still in Canada and that's kind of like my family Canada and that's kind of like my family Canada and that's kind of like my family background and um also my cousin wrote background and um also my cousin wrote background and um also my cousin wrote Franklin so if you know the Franklin Franklin so if you know the Franklin Franklin so if you know the Franklin books the Franklin children's books what books the Franklin children's books what books the Franklin children's books what yeah that was my cousin what are you yeah that was my cousin what are you yeah that was my cousin what are you talking about you know Franklin the the talking about you know Franklin the the talking about you know Franklin the the turtle we all know Franklin yeah yeah if turtle we all know Franklin yeah yeah if turtle we all know Franklin yeah yeah if you uh in uh when Franklin gets a baby you uh in uh when Franklin gets a baby you uh in uh when Franklin gets a baby sister Harriet I think it's it's a pink sister Harriet I think it's it's a pink sister Harriet I think it's it's a pink book Franklin's new baby sister it's uh book Franklin's new baby sister it's uh book Franklin's new baby sister it's uh yeah open it up dedicated to me and my yeah open it up dedicated to me and my yeah open it up dedicated to me and my sister no way poet bis wow yeah went to sister no way poet bis wow yeah went to sister no way poet bis wow yeah went to her house think her daughter might have her house think her daughter might have her house think her daughter might have dated dated dated Drake I mean to be fair everyone knows Drake I mean to be fair everyone knows Drake I mean to be fair everyone knows Drake's like through one connection or Drake's like through one connection or Drake's like through one connection or another that's true um dated might be another that's true um dated might be another that's true um dated might be strong sorry Paul that was um that was strong sorry Paul that was um that was strong sorry Paul that was um that was something uh and I joke about Rebecca something uh and I joke about Rebecca something uh and I joke about Rebecca being an immigrant I guess by status she being an immigrant I guess by status she being an immigrant I guess by status she she is but that was something that that she is but that was something that that she is but that was something that that was was was um was unfamiliar to her when she moved um was unfamiliar to her when she moved um was unfamiliar to her when she moved here um especially in in my little here um especially in in my little here um especially in in my little corner of Naro on the lake was the corner of Naro on the lake was the corner of Naro on the lake was the presence of like as they self-identify presence of like as they self-identify presence of like as they self-identify Old Colony menites um so uh you know Old Colony menites um so uh you know Old Colony menites um so uh you know women who would wear like the the women who would wear like the the women who would wear like the the fulllength dresses and the head fulllength dresses and the head fulllength dresses and the head coverings there I I grew up amongst Old coverings there I I grew up amongst Old coverings there I I grew up amongst Old Colony melanites in in is that Amish no Colony melanites in in is that Amish no Colony melanites in in is that Amish no that that's menite yeah and they they a that that's menite yeah and they they a that that's menite yeah and they they a lot of them come I don't a bunch of lot of them come I don't a bunch of lot of them come I don't a bunch of progressive menites for my family I know

progressive menites for my family I know progressive menites for my family I know but like the menite community is going but like the menite community is going but like the menite community is going to have to forgive me um but I I don't to have to forgive me um but I I don't to have to forgive me um but I I don't know the history well but a lot of them know the history well but a lot of them know the history well but a lot of them a lot of them came came from South a lot of them came came from South a lot of them came came from South America from Paraguay and um maintained America from Paraguay and um maintained America from Paraguay and um maintained the German language like our neighbors the German language like our neighbors the German language like our neighbors um they bought the house next to my um they bought the house next to my um they bought the house next to my parents uh the same year my parents did parents uh the same year my parents did parents uh the same year my parents did so this is the year I was born we've so this is the year I was born we've so this is the year I was born we've been neighbors for 30 years and uh been neighbors for 30 years and uh been neighbors for 30 years and uh they're from Paraguay um uh you know they're from Paraguay um uh you know they're from Paraguay um uh you know speak German and have lived next to my speak German and have lived next to my speak German and have lived next to my parents in Virgil uh for their entire parents in Virgil uh for their entire parents in Virgil uh for their entire lives and and um yeah that was just that lives and and um yeah that was just that lives and and um yeah that was just that was something that was common to me just was something that was common to me just was something that was common to me just growing up here uh but for Rebecca she growing up here uh but for Rebecca she growing up here uh but for Rebecca she was like what like what's what's was like what like what's what's was like what like what's what's happening here what's going on um um happening here what's going on um um happening here what's going on um um yeah kind of a a unique little little yeah kind of a a unique little little yeah kind of a a unique little little complexion of our of our population down complexion of our of our population down complexion of our of our population down here in in nager on the lake nager falls here in in nager on the lake nager falls here in in nager on the lake nager falls that's that's a different scene but that's that's a different scene but that's that's a different scene but nager on the lake well and little is the nager on the lake well and little is the nager on the lake well and little is the key because you know there's nothing my key because you know there's nothing my key because you know there's nothing my grandparents and seniors love more than grandparents and seniors love more than grandparents and seniors love more than when they find out you have a friend and when they find out you have a friend and when they find out you have a friend and they're like what's his last name what's they're like what's his last name what's they're like what's his last name what's her last name so like my my best friend her last name so like my my best friend her last name so like my my best friend Justin his last name is dger and they're Justin his last name is dger and they're Justin his last name is dger and they're like a dger a many night boy like I do like a dger a many night boy like I do like a dger a many night boy like I do many ders many ders many ders go back and forth oh also I've decided go back and forth oh also I've decided go back and forth oh also I've decided Patriarchs are Henry oh interesting I Patriarchs are Henry oh interesting I Patriarchs are Henry oh interesting I like that I've decided I'm I'm no longer like that I've decided I'm I'm no longer like that I've decided I'm I'm no longer identifying one person as a best friend identifying one person as a best friend identifying one person as a best friend it doesn't help anyone I think I have I it doesn't help anyone I think I have I it doesn't help anyone I think I have I have three and a half best friends that have three and a half best friends that have three and a half best friends that fourth he I don't see him enough to fourth he I don't see him enough to fourth he I don't see him enough to really qualify him outside of like work really qualify him outside of like work really qualify him outside of like work context okay but he's there it just you

context okay but he's there it just you context okay but he's there it just you know he adopted a kid and now I never know he adopted a kid and now I never know he adopted a kid and now I never see him anymore so he's three and a half see him anymore so he's three and a half see him anymore so he's three and a half so three and a half best friends they're so three and a half best friends they're so three and a half best friends they're all different yeah can't how how are you all different yeah can't how how are you all different yeah can't how how are you supposed to rank them yeah can't won't supposed to rank them yeah can't won't supposed to rank them yeah can't won't so I I will call Alex my best friend I so I I will call Alex my best friend I so I I will call Alex my best friend I will call Justin my best friend I'll will call Justin my best friend I'll will call Justin my best friend I'll call Mitch my best friend and Tristan I call Mitch my best friend and Tristan I call Mitch my best friend and Tristan I want him to be my best friend but he I want him to be my best friend but he I want him to be my best friend but he I need him to want me need him to want me need him to want me back you guys can work that out later back you guys can work that out later back you guys can work that out later okay next question I just went through okay next question I just went through okay next question I just went through your church comms policy and our church your church comms policy and our church your church comms policy and our church is falling under too much Pro under the is falling under too much Pro under the is falling under too much Pro under the too much promotion category we have too much promotion category we have too much promotion category we have about 12 separate Ministries each with about 12 separate Ministries each with about 12 separate Ministries each with 12 to 20 12 to 40 people how do we still 12 to 20 12 to 40 people how do we still 12 to 20 12 to 40 people how do we still honor and invite others into their honor and invite others into their honor and invite others into their Ministry without breaking the 50% rule Ministry without breaking the 50% rule Ministry without breaking the 50% rule if it's supposed to be that specific if it's supposed to be that specific if it's supposed to be that specific ministry's responsibility what do we do ministry's responsibility what do we do ministry's responsibility what do we do with the old ladies who don't know how with the old ladies who don't know how with the old ladies who don't know how to copy and paste let alone touch social to copy and paste let alone touch social to copy and paste let alone touch social media also those involved in any media also those involved in any media also those involved in any Ministry are most likely involved in Ministry are most likely involved in Ministry are most likely involved in three to four separate Ministries do we three to four separate Ministries do we three to four separate Ministries do we have a bigger problem than have a bigger problem than have a bigger problem than Communications here I don't think so it Communications here I don't think so it Communications here I don't think so it sounds like that's uh you know pretty sounds like that's uh you know pretty sounds like that's uh you know pretty regular church that's a problem I think regular church that's a problem I think regular church that's a problem I think that a lot of churches would want to that a lot of churches would want to that a lot of churches would want to have is is thriving Ministries like that have is is thriving Ministries like that have is is thriving Ministries like that and and Ministry uh particip like that and and Ministry uh particip like that and and Ministry uh particip like that that's true and you know this goes back that's true and you know this goes back that's true and you know this goes back to that text question where at least in to that text question where at least in to that text question where at least in the internal coms with these groups like the internal coms with these groups like the internal coms with these groups like you know you could have an email thread you know you could have an email thread you know you could have an email thread you can have a text thread you can have you can have a text thread you can have you can have a text thread you can have a phone call thread whatever it might be a phone call thread whatever it might be a phone call thread whatever it might be you know WhatsApp is is is useful for you know WhatsApp is is is useful for you know WhatsApp is is is useful for these often um couple important points these often um couple important points these often um couple important points the 50% rule applies to potential not the 50% rule applies to potential not the 50% rule applies to potential not reality so if you had a church where you reality so if you had a church where you reality so if you had a church where you know 50% of the church was parents then

know 50% of the church was parents then know 50% of the church was parents then like a kid Ministry announcement would like a kid Ministry announcement would like a kid Ministry announcement would qualify for churchwide comps right even qualify for churchwide comps right even qualify for churchwide comps right even if for whatever reason only you know 25% if for whatever reason only you know 25% if for whatever reason only you know 25% of them actually had kids in kids of them actually had kids in kids of them actually had kids in kids ministry the other 25% stayed at home ministry the other 25% stayed at home ministry the other 25% stayed at home it's a bad example but the point is it's it's a bad example but the point is it's it's a bad example but the point is it's potential not reality the caveat is you potential not reality the caveat is you potential not reality the caveat is you also have to be realistic so like if you also have to be realistic so like if you also have to be realistic so like if you know yeah you know look 100% of people know yeah you know look 100% of people know yeah you know look 100% of people could come to this event right right could come to this event right right could come to this event right right right but like you've announced it for right but like you've announced it for right but like you've announced it for four years straight and and nobody ever four years straight and and nobody ever four years straight and and nobody ever shows up then technically there's the shows up then technically there's the shows up then technically there's the potential but realistically there isn't potential but realistically there isn't potential but realistically there isn't but sometimes I do see churches kind of but sometimes I do see churches kind of but sometimes I do see churches kind of tripping over that rule because they're tripping over that rule because they're tripping over that rule because they're like well only you know this percent of like well only you know this percent of like well only you know this percent of people come like yeah but like the people come like yeah but like the people come like yeah but like the announcement applies to like 70% of the announcement applies to like 70% of the announcement applies to like 70% of the church right like yeah yeah okay well church right like yeah yeah okay well church right like yeah yeah okay well then that that counts so then what we then that that counts so then what we then that that counts so then what we also have are these things called Sprint also have are these things called Sprint also have are these things called Sprint and sprinkle and sprinkle and sprinkle promotions Sprint and sprinkle promotions Sprint and sprinkle promotions Sprint and sprinkle promotions you can find this all in the promotions you can find this all in the promotions you can find this all in the church Communications Policy YouTube or church Communications Policy YouTube or church Communications Policy YouTube or Google Sprint and sprinkle promotions Google Sprint and sprinkle promotions Google Sprint and sprinkle promotions are basically for when you need to kind are basically for when you need to kind are basically for when you need to kind of operate outside of the rules so a of operate outside of the rules so a of operate outside of the rules so a Sprinkle promotion is when you create uh Sprinkle promotion is when you create uh Sprinkle promotion is when you create uh a piece of communications that is a piece of communications that is a piece of communications that is valuable on its own with a little valuable on its own with a little valuable on its own with a little promotion at the end so for example the promotion at the end so for example the promotion at the end so for example the way we do this on our platforms is I'll way we do this on our platforms is I'll way we do this on our platforms is I'll have a carousel post talking about have a carousel post talking about have a carousel post talking about social media and maybe the final slide social media and maybe the final slide social media and maybe the final slide he's like hey and if you want to work he's like hey and if you want to work he's like hey and if you want to work with us one-onone go to social with us one-onone go to social with us one-onone go to social sermons.com or hey if you need to build sermons.com or hey if you need to build sermons.com or hey if you need to build your website go to nucleus. church as an your website go to nucleus. church as an your website go to nucleus. church as an example there's nine slides of value example there's nine slides of value example there's nine slides of value that final one isn't going to like that final one isn't going to like that final one isn't going to like detract from the value that's fine so detract from the value that's fine so detract from the value that's fine so you could do that as much as you want

you could do that as much as you want you could do that as much as you want that gives you the freedom to promote that gives you the freedom to promote that gives you the freedom to promote anything you want ever so you know one anything you want ever so you know one anything you want ever so you know one example of this for uh this specific example of this for uh this specific example of this for uh this specific example would be like telling a story of example would be like telling a story of example would be like telling a story of life change in your church that like life change in your church that like life change in your church that like builds up the faith of everyone and then builds up the faith of everyone and then builds up the faith of everyone and then at the end you can be like yeah and this at the end you can be like yeah and this at the end you can be like yeah and this was actually part of a Ministry called was actually part of a Ministry called was actually part of a Ministry called this feel free to check it this feel free to check it this feel free to check it out 10 seconds it's not going to detract out 10 seconds it's not going to detract out 10 seconds it's not going to detract from anything the 50% rule exists from anything the 50% rule exists from anything the 50% rule exists because what did church just do they because what did church just do they because what did church just do they don't really follow the church don't really follow the church don't really follow the church announcements formula anyway one story announcements formula anyway one story announcements formula anyway one story plus one next step they just get up plus one next step they just get up plus one next step they just get up there and they talk time location needs there and they talk time location needs there and they talk time location needs price expectations and people just tune price expectations and people just tune price expectations and people just tune it out so if the 50% rule is enacted at it out so if the 50% rule is enacted at it out so if the 50% rule is enacted at the very least when they are doing the very least when they are doing the very least when they are doing boring announcements it'll at least boring announcements it'll at least boring announcements it'll at least apply to most people yeah but the apply to most people yeah but the apply to most people yeah but the reality for most churches is they're reality for most churches is they're reality for most churches is they're doing boring announcements and no one's doing boring announcements and no one's doing boring announcements and no one's listening because they're not even listening because they're not even listening because they're not even applicable to them in the first place so applicable to them in the first place so applicable to them in the first place so sprinkle promotions are an outstanding sprinkle promotions are an outstanding sprinkle promotions are an outstanding way to get around this Sprint promotions way to get around this Sprint promotions way to get around this Sprint promotions are when you go all right one or two are when you go all right one or two are when you go all right one or two weeks of the weeks of the weeks of the year no rules we're going hard after year no rules we're going hard after year no rules we're going hard after this one thing and this one thing and this one thing and you can only do that once or twice a you can only do that once or twice a you can only do that once or twice a year because if you do it too frequently year because if you do it too frequently year because if you do it too frequently again you get back to the problem of again you get back to the problem of again you get back to the problem of people not paying attention and Sprint people not paying attention and Sprint people not paying attention and Sprint promotions are basically what most promotions are basically what most promotions are basically what most churches do just indefinitely so we want churches do just indefinitely so we want churches do just indefinitely so we want to limit them to one or two weeks a year to limit them to one or two weeks a year to limit them to one or two weeks a year now it's unlikely that this type of now it's unlikely that this type of now it's unlikely that this type of ministry would fall under the purview of ministry would fall under the purview of ministry would fall under the purview of a Sprint promotion you'd probably want a Sprint promotion you'd probably want a Sprint promotion you'd probably want to save that for like Christmas or to save that for like Christmas or to save that for like Christmas or Easter or some big event but you could Easter or some big event but you could Easter or some big event but you could have something like a like a Ministry have something like a like a Ministry have something like a like a Ministry fair type of thing and every year you fair type of thing and every year you fair type of thing and every year you kind of give that opportunity the kind of give that opportunity the kind of give that opportunity the ministry fair you push hard everything ministry fair you push hard everything ministry fair you push hard everything gets feed for that one week it's a ton

gets feed for that one week it's a ton gets feed for that one week it's a ton of promotion but it's for the ministry of promotion but it's for the ministry of promotion but it's for the ministry fair then you settle back into normal fair then you settle back into normal fair then you settle back into normal after that another great option is to after that another great option is to after that another great option is to have things like bulletins for specific have things like bulletins for specific have things like bulletins for specific Ministries for people that don't like Ministries for people that don't like Ministries for people that don't like Tech so if you have the this group of Tech so if you have the this group of Tech so if you have the this group of senior senior room they're not going to senior senior room they're not going to senior senior room they're not going to touch social they're not that that's touch social they're not that that's touch social they're not that that's fine you could have bulletins fine you could have bulletins fine you could have bulletins specifically for them just like in a specifically for them just like in a specifically for them just like in a specific place you can reference those specific place you can reference those specific place you can reference those selfs serve and not dedicate like selfs serve and not dedicate like selfs serve and not dedicate like announcement time to them right at the announcement time to them right at the announcement time to them right at the end of announcements let's say you have end of announcements let's say you have end of announcements let's say you have two announcements and they're for big two announcements and they're for big two announcements and they're for big events in the church you got baptism you events in the church you got baptism you events in the church you got baptism you got kids ministry and then you're like got kids ministry and then you're like got kids ministry and then you're like oh and by the way if you're curious in oh and by the way if you're curious in oh and by the way if you're curious in the F if you're curious about the the F if you're curious about the the F if you're curious about the following Ministries this this this this following Ministries this this this this following Ministries this this this this there are bulletins in the lobby for you there are bulletins in the lobby for you there are bulletins in the lobby for you to check out so now it becomes a self- to check out so now it becomes a self- to check out so now it becomes a self- serve option for people to opt into if serve option for people to opt into if serve option for people to opt into if they prefer they feel valued they feel they prefer they feel valued they feel they prefer they feel valued they feel acknowledged but TimeWise they're acknowledged but TimeWise they're acknowledged but TimeWise they're getting 2% of what the other getting 2% of what the other getting 2% of what the other announcements are so you've kind of announcements are so you've kind of announcements are so you've kind of still avoided the downfalls of still avoided the downfalls of still avoided the downfalls of neglecting the 50% rule all right next neglecting the 50% rule all right next neglecting the 50% rule all right next one hey BR and Alex I need your opinion one hey BR and Alex I need your opinion one hey BR and Alex I need your opinion about how we should lead our church about how we should lead our church about how we should lead our church youth who serve in Tech or worship there youth who serve in Tech or worship there youth who serve in Tech or worship there are few youth who are either serving too are few youth who are either serving too are few youth who are either serving too many weeks straight with no break or who many weeks straight with no break or who many weeks straight with no break or who have a bored expression in what they do have a bored expression in what they do have a bored expression in what they do their parents and other leaders think their parents and other leaders think their parents and other leaders think it's fine and it will help them grow it's fine and it will help them grow it's fine and it will help them grow into mature leaders one day I don't into mature leaders one day I don't into mature leaders one day I don't think so I think that not only should think so I think that not only should think so I think that not only should they take a break I believe they should they take a break I believe they should they take a break I believe they should reevaluate what how and why they're reevaluate what how and why they're reevaluate what how and why they're serving even if it means means we lose serving even if it means means we lose serving even if it means means we lose volunteers P.S I know that this incident

volunteers P.S I know that this incident volunteers P.S I know that this incident was a long time ago but I think Alex was a long time ago but I think Alex was a long time ago but I think Alex deserves his own spin-off episode after deserves his own spin-off episode after deserves his own spin-off episode after Brady called him dark Roose daddy that Brady called him dark Roose daddy that Brady called him dark Roose daddy that intro was so sus so cringy I rushed to intro was so sus so cringy I rushed to intro was so sus so cringy I rushed to put on headphones come on Brady you owe put on headphones come on Brady you owe put on headphones come on Brady you owe him that man you owe him you owe him his him that man you owe him you owe him his him that man you owe him you owe him his wife his baby and his coffee Boys in wife his baby and his coffee Boys in wife his baby and his coffee Boys in Atlanta Georgia just give it to him Atlanta Georgia just give it to him Atlanta Georgia just give it to him Brady hashtag the pro coffee Brewers Brady hashtag the pro coffee Brewers Brady hashtag the pro coffee Brewers show the pro coffee brewer show is awful show the pro coffee brewer show is awful show the pro coffee brewer show is awful I did not write this question just just I did not write this question just just I did not write this question just just to be clear dark roast daddy now that is to be clear dark roast daddy now that is to be clear dark roast daddy now that is a segment I like kind of as an idea all a segment I like kind of as an idea all a segment I like kind of as an idea all right we're going to go to our segment right we're going to go to our segment right we're going to go to our segment this is you know copy talk with dark Rose know copy talk with dark Rose Daddy okay we'll Workshop that I'll take Daddy okay we'll Workshop that I'll take Daddy okay we'll Workshop that I'll take a segment instead of a show I don't a segment instead of a show I don't a segment instead of a show I don't really have enough uh time and energy really have enough uh time and energy really have enough uh time and energy for an entire show but I'll take a for an entire show but I'll take a for an entire show but I'll take a second dark Rose daddy wild so um what second dark Rose daddy wild so um what second dark Rose daddy wild so um what are we going to do with these youths are we going to do with these youths are we going to do with these youths these youth with these youths uh so I these youth with these youths uh so I these youth with these youths uh so I started thinking about this question and started thinking about this question and started thinking about this question and I thought okay what motivates people got I thought okay what motivates people got I thought okay what motivates people got three things alliteration for the Lord three things alliteration for the Lord three things alliteration for the Lord course money meaning membership nice course money meaning membership nice course money meaning membership nice you're probably not paying them so money you're probably not paying them so money you're probably not paying them so money is not going to motivate them when is not going to motivate them when is not going to motivate them when people say we need them to grow up to be people say we need them to grow up to be people say we need them to grow up to be good leaders they might be thinking good leaders they might be thinking good leaders they might be thinking about volunteer work but they're about volunteer work but they're about volunteer work but they're probably thinking about like good probably thinking about like good probably thinking about like good leaders in leaders in leaders in Ministry that's paid or good Ministry Ministry that's paid or good Ministry Ministry that's paid or good Ministry good leaders in their

good leaders in their good leaders in their jobs good leaders in their homes okay jobs good leaders in their homes okay jobs good leaders in their homes okay like none of that is like I'm giving my like none of that is like I'm giving my like none of that is like I'm giving my time for free okay like you might your time for free okay like you might your time for free okay like you might your home no no like you that's your wife home no no like you that's your wife home no no like you that's your wife that's your kids like you get so much that's your kids like you get so much that's your kids like you get so much back from them this is like I'm just back from them this is like I'm just back from them this is like I'm just giving of my time and energy for free giving of my time and energy for free giving of my time and energy for free and they're not being compensated so and they're not being compensated so and they're not being compensated so like they might not be motivated then like they might not be motivated then like they might not be motivated then money's a big one let's talk about money's a big one let's talk about money's a big one let's talk about meaning and membership if you can't pay meaning and membership if you can't pay meaning and membership if you can't pay people which you probably can't that's people which you probably can't that's people which you probably can't that's fine meaning and membership meaning is fine meaning and membership meaning is fine meaning and membership meaning is when someone wants to be a part of when someone wants to be a part of when someone wants to be a part of something like bigger than something like bigger than something like bigger than thems and they care about the mission thems and they care about the mission thems and they care about the mission behind what they're doing like you know behind what they're doing like you know behind what they're doing like you know what when I show up and do something what when I show up and do something what when I show up and do something people's lives are affected because of people's lives are affected because of people's lives are affected because of that and that inspires me that motivates that and that inspires me that motivates that and that inspires me that motivates me there's meaning there and then me there's meaning there and then me there's meaning there and then membership this is when everyone else is membership this is when everyone else is membership this is when everyone else is doing something and you want to be a doing something and you want to be a doing something and you want to be a part of it as well if everyone like like part of it as well if everyone like like part of it as well if everyone like like I remember when our youth group was like I remember when our youth group was like I remember when our youth group was like this in high school it's like like you this in high school it's like like you this in high school it's like like you didn't want to miss even a week because didn't want to miss even a week because didn't want to miss even a week because it was so fun and like we were always it was so fun and like we were always it was so fun and like we were always doing cool things and like everyone doing cool things and like everyone doing cool things and like everyone loved God and it was so awesome like you loved God and it was so awesome like you loved God and it was so awesome like you wanted to be a part of that because you wanted to be a part of that because you wanted to be a part of that because you wanted to be like with everyone doing wanted to be like with everyone doing wanted to be like with everyone doing the awesome thing and then there was the awesome thing and then there was the awesome thing and then there was also meaning because like we're like also meaning because like we're like also meaning because like we're like we're making a difference in people's we're making a difference in people's we're making a difference in people's lives and there was no money CU of lives and there was no money CU of lives and there was no money CU of course well come to youth group we'll course well come to youth group we'll course well come to youth group we'll pay you five bucks like you know that pay you five bucks like you know that pay you five bucks like you know that wasn't a thing so just like wasn't a thing so just like wasn't a thing so just like understanding what motivates people I understanding what motivates people I understanding what motivates people I think you know these questions are think you know these questions are think you know these questions are always bu you know what they should do always bu you know what they should do always bu you know what they should do that that that because they want to grow up and do the because they want to grow up and do the because they want to grow up and do the hard hard things they need to real like hard hard things they need to real like hard hard things they need to real like I understand that like we don't want to

I understand that like we don't want to I understand that like we don't want to raise soft people but everything is raise soft people but everything is raise soft people but everything is transactional and I think when we transactional and I think when we transactional and I think when we neglect the reality that things are neglect the reality that things are neglect the reality that things are transactional we just expect people to transactional we just expect people to transactional we just expect people to behave in ways that are just not human behave in ways that are just not human behave in ways that are just not human everyone does something for a reason it everyone does something for a reason it everyone does something for a reason it could be an altruistic reason but it's could be an altruistic reason but it's could be an altruistic reason but it's still going to be rooted in meaning then still going to be rooted in meaning then still going to be rooted in meaning then the meaning of I want to follow Jesus the meaning of I want to follow Jesus the meaning of I want to follow Jesus and I want to live like Jesus and it and I want to live like Jesus and it and I want to live like Jesus and it will cost me but it's worth it because will cost me but it's worth it because will cost me but it's worth it because I'm living according to these values and I'm living according to these values and I'm living according to these values and the values are there's this meaning the values are there's this meaning the values are there's this meaning attached to it you don't just do attached to it you don't just do attached to it you don't just do something because like someone tells you something because like someone tells you something because like someone tells you to because even then the motivation it's to because even then the motivation it's to because even then the motivation it's transactional it's sh shame fear transactional it's sh shame fear transactional it's sh shame fear punishment based if you want to go about punishment based if you want to go about punishment based if you want to go about that go ahead but I think this person is that go ahead but I think this person is that go ahead but I think this person is kind of acknowledging this feels like a kind of acknowledging this feels like a kind of acknowledging this feels like a very short-term approach yeah yeah I very short-term approach yeah yeah I very short-term approach yeah yeah I agree next question best fiction book agree next question best fiction book agree next question best fiction book that you have enjoyed over the summer or that you have enjoyed over the summer or that you have enjoyed over the summer or you're reading currently now yes we you're reading currently now yes we you're reading currently now yes we talked about like reading diets mhm I talked about like reading diets mhm I talked about like reading diets mhm I don't have really fiction in my reading don't have really fiction in my reading don't have really fiction in my reading diet me neither but I was diet me neither but I was diet me neither but I was watching Love is Blind season 5 are you watching Love is Blind season 5 are you watching Love is Blind season 5 are you caught upis are you on no uh we we're caught upis are you on no uh we we're caught upis are you on no uh we we're caught up first for done we episode caught up first for done we episode caught up first for done we episode two you need to text me when you're done two you need to text me when you're done two you need to text me when you're done episode three that's what I've heard episode three that's what I've heard episode three that's what I've heard then I have avoided spoilers except I then I have avoided spoilers except I then I have avoided spoilers except I saw on Tik Tok that said I was not saw on Tik Tok that said I was not saw on Tik Tok that said I was not prepared for for the plot twist at the prepared for for the plot twist at the prepared for for the plot twist at the end of episode 3 and then I had to hold end of episode 3 and then I had to hold end of episode 3 and then I had to hold on the video and click not interested on the video and click not interested on the video and click not interested because I didn't want to get on I was because I didn't want to get on I was because I didn't want to get on I was going to say how have you aoid going to say how have you aoid going to say how have you aoid okay then I need you to text me after

episode I'll put in some work tonight so episode I'll put in some work tonight so this is not a spoiler I don't know who this is not a spoiler I don't know who this is not a spoiler I don't know who this was but like Love is Blind dating this was but like Love is Blind dating this was but like Love is Blind dating reality show yeah I'm reading that I'm reality show yeah I'm reading that I'm reality show yeah I'm reading that I'm reading this the what am I reading I'm reading this the what am I reading I'm reading this the what am I reading I'm reading the the close captions on the reading the the close captions on the reading the the close captions on the movies that I watch all right I read the movies that I watch all right I read the movies that I watch all right I read the close captions on The Departed yeah and close captions on The Departed yeah and close captions on The Departed yeah and guess what guess what exp expletives guess what guess what exp expletives guess what guess what exp expletives were only every other word I think the were only every other word I think the were only every other word I think the Departed at one point was the most the Departed at one point was the most the Departed at one point was the most the movie with the most curse words hm I movie with the most curse words hm I movie with the most curse words hm I think it's been top since think it's been top since think it's been top since um so love is blind people dating um so love is blind people dating um so love is blind people dating through the pods so you can never see through the pods so you can never see through the pods so you can never see each other that's the prise of the each other that's the prise of the each other that's the prise of the reality show you of course don't have reality show you of course don't have reality show you of course don't have your phones so what do they give you your phones so what do they give you your phones so what do they give you alcohol or something in a bronze glass alcohol or something in a bronze glass alcohol or something in a bronze glass that you don't know a journal and then that you don't know a journal and then that you don't know a journal and then sometimes people have books one of the sometimes people have books one of the sometimes people have books one of the contestants what book are they holding contestants what book are they holding contestants what book are they holding last fiction book I read probably the last fiction book I read probably the last fiction book I read probably the last one you read are you are you last one you read are you are you last one you read are you are you talking about where the crow out talking about where the crow out talking about where the crow out thinging that's right and I was like I thinging that's right and I was like I thinging that's right and I was like I was like look there another book I am so was like look there another book I am so was like look there another book I am so glad you brought this up so I read this glad you brought this up so I read this glad you brought this up so I read this question prepping for the podcast and question prepping for the podcast and question prepping for the podcast and I'm thinking to myself I don't read I'm thinking to myself I don't read I'm thinking to myself I don't read fiction but I don't want to say that out fiction but I don't want to say that out fiction but I don't want to say that out loud because it sounds loud because it sounds loud because it sounds like it just sounds dismissive to people like it just sounds dismissive to people like it just sounds dismissive to people that do yes oh I read non-fiction I'm that do yes oh I read non-fiction I'm that do yes oh I read non-fiction I'm just that much more of a better person just that much more of a better person just that much more of a better person than you and it's not that we've talked than you and it's not that we've talked than you and it's not that we've talked about this on the show I can't see about this on the show I can't see about this on the show I can't see things or hear things when I read things or hear things when I read things or hear things when I read anyways so it's anyways so it's anyways so it's like why am I reading this anyways so like why am I reading this anyways so like why am I reading this anyways so I'm thinking about fiction I'm thinking I'm thinking about fiction I'm thinking I'm thinking about fiction I'm thinking about fiction books I'm trying to think about fiction books I'm trying to think about fiction books I'm trying to think what was the last fiction book I read what was the last fiction book I read what was the last fiction book I read the last one I read with my eyes I the last one I read with my eyes I the last one I read with my eyes I literally cannot tell you I cannot tell literally cannot tell you I cannot tell literally cannot tell you I cannot tell you it it might have been like 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Hobbit when I was 11 like I can not tell Hobbit when I was 11 like I can not tell you but what did come to my mind they're you but what did come to my mind they're you but what did come to my mind they're like oh the trolls are here you're like like oh the trolls are here you're like like oh the trolls are here you're like the what I the what I the what I don't what what did come to my mind don't what what did come to my mind don't what what did come to my mind immediately after that was immediately after that was immediately after that was this ethereal memory of 17 of the most this ethereal memory of 17 of the most this ethereal memory of 17 of the most fondest hours of our friendship you you fondest hours of our friendship you you fondest hours of our friendship you you me your other half best friend me your other half best friend me your other half best friend Tristan this is what I mean know in the Tristan this is what I mean know in the Tristan this is what I mean know in the Icelandic Highlands and these these Icelandic Highlands and these these Icelandic Highlands and these these three Lonely Boys what are we going to three Lonely Boys what are we going to three Lonely Boys what are we going to listen to in the Rover music no we're listen to in the Rover music no we're listen to in the Rover music no we're going to listen to an audiobook I think going to listen to an audiobook I think going to listen to an audiobook I think it was the first audio book I ever it was the first audio book I ever it was the first audio book I ever listened to or that I don't know which listened to or that I don't know which listened to or that I don't know which one we listen to first but that was the one we listen to first but that was the one we listen to first but that was the first time I ever listened to an audio first time I ever listened to an audio first time I ever listened to an audio book and we chose um this book that was book and we chose um this book that was book and we chose um this book that was that was really well reviewed had that was really well reviewed had that was really well reviewed had recently come out where the kowad sing recently come out where the kowad sing recently come out where the kowad sing and like I said I can't I can't see when and like I said I can't I can't see when and like I said I can't I can't see when I'm listening to the book but what I can I'm listening to the book but what I can I'm listening to the book but what I can tell you is that us three grown men for tell you is that us three grown men for tell you is that us three grown men for 17 and 1 half hours were gripped every 17 and 1 half hours were gripped every 17 and 1 half hours were gripped every moment by the lyricism of of the book moment by the lyricism of of the book moment by the lyricism of of the book the the the suspense in the plot there the the the suspense in the plot there the the the suspense in the plot there were moments where we were cheering in were moments where we were cheering in were moments where we were cheering in ecstasy we are we are we are crying in ecstasy we are we are we are crying in ecstasy we are we are we are crying in booing yeah sneering our teeth yes and booing yeah sneering our teeth yes and booing yeah sneering our teeth yes and it was like 17 hours was not a short it was like 17 hours was not a short it was like 17 hours was not a short amount of time we spent a lot of time in amount of time we spent a lot of time in amount of time we spent a lot of time in that car and I don't I don't know how I that car and I don't I don't know how I that car and I don't I don't know how I could ever forget that time it was uh could ever forget that time it was uh could ever forget that time it was uh that book that book was formative for that book that book was formative for that book that book was formative for for me for us dare I say for everyone for me for us dare I say for everyone for me for us dare I say for everyone yeah I love you Kyle and you know what

yeah I love you Kyle and you know what yeah I love you Kyle and you know what the movie was not half bad I never saw the movie was not half bad I never saw the movie was not half bad I never saw it I I've heard mixed reviews so people it I I've heard mixed reviews so people it I I've heard mixed reviews so people are disappointed it they didn't tackle are disappointed it they didn't tackle are disappointed it they didn't tackle like every plot point which again I like every plot point which again I like every plot point which again I don't read fiction so this is the first don't read fiction so this is the first don't read fiction so this is the first time that I've read a book before the time that I've read a book before the time that I've read a book before the movie usually I see the movies like you movie usually I see the movies like you movie usually I see the movies like you know um I guess with the exception of know um I guess with the exception of know um I guess with the exception of The Chronicles and Narnia The Chronicles and Narnia The Chronicles and Narnia but like so I usually just watch the but like so I usually just watch the but like so I usually just watch the movie like yeah that's a great movie and movie like yeah that's a great movie and movie like yeah that's a great movie and then and then the people who read the then and then the people who read the then and then the people who read the books like oh it wasn't they didn't books like oh it wasn't they didn't books like oh it wasn't they didn't stick to the cannon or whatever so some stick to the cannon or whatever so some stick to the cannon or whatever so some some people got a little bit upset about some people got a little bit upset about some people got a little bit upset about that movie I I really enjoyed it um but that movie I I really enjoyed it um but that movie I I really enjoyed it um but man name a better fictional book uh I'll man name a better fictional book uh I'll man name a better fictional book uh I'll wait um the best part about that is that wait um the best part about that is that wait um the best part about that is that the reason we we read it was because my the reason we we read it was because my the reason we we read it was because my wife read it and said you'll like it yes wife read it and said you'll like it yes wife read it and said you'll like it yes and then I come back I'm like we just and then I come back I'm like we just and then I come back I'm like we just had this most Transcendent experience had this most Transcendent experience had this most Transcendent experience she's like what I was like there was she's like what I was like there was she's like what I was like there was this book we read she's like yeah I know this book we read she's like yeah I know this book we read she's like yeah I know I told you to read it and I'm like hey I I told you to read it and I'm like hey I I told you to read it and I'm like hey I had a moment that you were not a part of had a moment that you were not a part of had a moment that you were not a part of she's like but it was my book first I she's like but it was my book first I she's like but it was my book first I gave it to like this is not you this is gave it to like this is not you this is gave it to like this is not you this is our book now um as we're talking about our book now um as we're talking about our book now um as we're talking about this I realized I lied that that wasn't this I realized I lied that that wasn't this I realized I lied that that wasn't the last fiction I I listened to um the last fiction I I listened to um the last fiction I I listened to um since that trip Rebecca and I have kind since that trip Rebecca and I have kind since that trip Rebecca and I have kind of adopted the practice of listening to of adopted the practice of listening to of adopted the practice of listening to um fictional books on our drives to um fictional books on our drives to um fictional books on our drives to South Carolina um and so we've listened South Carolina um and so we've listened South Carolina um and so we've listened to some Agatha Christie we've listened to some Agatha Christie we've listened to some Agatha Christie we've listened to some Lucy Foley who's like a modern a to some Lucy Foley who's like a modern a to some Lucy Foley who's like a modern a Agatha Christie uh mostly murder mystery Agatha Christie uh mostly murder mystery Agatha Christie uh mostly murder mystery stuff it's the same plot different stuff it's the same plot different stuff it's the same plot different setting um yeah shout out to audible setting um yeah shout out to audible setting um yeah shout out to audible again they hope you've enjoyed this again they hope you've enjoyed this again they hope you've enjoyed this message yeah I uh this programming I message yeah I uh this programming I message yeah I uh this programming I have a long drive to do next week headed

have a long drive to do next week headed have a long drive to do next week headed to Vermont driving by myself eight hours to Vermont driving by myself eight hours to Vermont driving by myself eight hours both ways first road trip in the Tesla both ways first road trip in the Tesla both ways first road trip in the Tesla the tessi yo so I was figuring out where the tessi yo so I was figuring out where the tessi yo so I was figuring out where to supercharge right and I am doing my to supercharge right and I am doing my to supercharge right and I am doing my final supercharge in Burlington Vermont final supercharge in Burlington Vermont final supercharge in Burlington Vermont and you know I'm like okay like what am and you know I'm like okay like what am and you know I'm like okay like what am I going to eat it's dinner time I'm plan I going to eat it's dinner time I'm plan I going to eat it's dinner time I'm plan on where I going to eat and like all all on where I going to eat and like all all on where I going to eat and like all all Brit hears in the office yesterday let's Brit hears in the office yesterday let's Brit hears in the office yesterday let's go and she's like what and I told her a go and she's like what and I told her a go and she's like what and I told her a screenshot I was like this is the screenshot I was like this is the screenshot I was like this is the supercharger 30 m across the street supercharger 30 m across the street supercharger 30 m across the street Chipotle it's right there I don't have Chipotle it's right there I don't have Chipotle it's right there I don't have to go anywhere praise God so I was like to go anywhere praise God so I was like to go anywhere praise God so I was like what book am I going to listen to and I what book am I going to listen to and I what book am I going to listen to and I and the one I rolled up you know good and the one I rolled up you know good and the one I rolled up you know good diet of books is an autobiography diet of books is an autobiography diet of books is an autobiography Abraham Lincoln's by John meum and there Abraham Lincoln's by John meum and there Abraham Lincoln's by John meum and there was light 9 hours um at 1.9x speed which was light 9 hours um at 1.9x speed which was light 9 hours um at 1.9x speed which is what I'm listening to right now cuz is what I'm listening to right now cuz is what I'm listening to right now cuz I'm a sicko teetering on the edge of I'm a sicko teetering on the edge of I'm a sicko teetering on the edge of disaster I've already listened to the disaster I've already listened to the disaster I've already listened to the first hour which was the prologue so first hour which was the prologue so first hour which was the prologue so I've got eight hours so I got Abraham I've got eight hours so I got Abraham I've got eight hours so I got Abraham Lincoln straight drive you know through Lincoln straight drive you know through Lincoln straight drive you know through the Northeast you know I just want yeah the Northeast you know I just want yeah the Northeast you know I just want yeah that's what I was thinking yeah so I'm that's what I was thinking yeah so I'm that's what I was thinking yeah so I'm excited about that um anything planned excited about that um anything planned excited about that um anything planned for the way home no no I have to figure for the way home no no I have to figure for the way home no no I have to figure the the way home still right yeah yeah I the the way home still right yeah yeah I the the way home still right yeah yeah I don't have that um that sorted just yet don't have that um that sorted just yet don't have that um that sorted just yet I love you I love you I love you ka yeah fiction well you and I we're ka yeah fiction well you and I we're ka yeah fiction well you and I we're having a bit of a crisis right now having a bit of a crisis right now having a bit of a crisis right now because since your son was born baby boy because since your son was born baby boy because since your son was born baby boy number one dark Rose daddy we haven't number one dark Rose daddy we haven't number one dark Rose daddy we haven't been on a trip yeah and your next son is been on a trip yeah and your next son is been on a trip yeah and your next son is born I don't know when this podcast is born I don't know when this podcast is born I don't know when this podcast is live now right now like he might exist live now right now like he might exist live now right now like he might exist and and and and we didn't travel for 2

and and and and we didn't travel for 2 and and and and we didn't travel for 2 and a half years with one boy at home and a half years with one boy at home and a half years with one boy at home now to be fair this was when your wife now to be fair this was when your wife now to be fair this was when your wife was an illegal alien so maybe things are was an illegal alien so maybe things are was an illegal alien so maybe things are different now that she's like a different now that she's like a different now that she's like a legitimate citizen but like when are we legitimate citizen but like when are we legitimate citizen but like when are we going to travel again this man textt me going to travel again this man textt me going to travel again this man textt me yesterday he's like what what was this yesterday he's like what what was this yesterday he's like what what was this trip from just sending me pictures of trip from just sending me pictures of trip from just sending me pictures of like cans of chili It's been coming up a like cans of chili It's been coming up a like cans of chili It's been coming up a lot it's been that's what I'm saying I lot it's been that's what I'm saying I lot it's been that's what I'm saying I know but like what are we like we're so know but like what are we like we're so know but like what are we like we're so in there's nothing that can be done in there's nothing that can be done in there's nothing that can be done we're in it's it's a problem we'll find we're in it's it's a problem we'll find we're in it's it's a problem we'll find a way God Will Make A Way thank you Lord a way God Will Make A Way thank you Lord a way God Will Make A Way thank you Lord hey Brady long time listener first time hey Brady long time listener first time hey Brady long time listener first time questioner I've been noticing some of questioner I've been noticing some of questioner I've been noticing some of the pages I follow on Facebook have been the pages I follow on Facebook have been the pages I follow on Facebook have been posting the link to their YouTube or posting the link to their YouTube or posting the link to their YouTube or vimeo video in the comments rather than vimeo video in the comments rather than vimeo video in the comments rather than in the post itself it forces you to open in the post itself it forces you to open in the post itself it forces you to open the comments and actually engage with the comments and actually engage with the comments and actually engage with the post in order to watch the video the post in order to watch the video the post in order to watch the video that they linked what do you think about that they linked what do you think about that they linked what do you think about this does this actually increase this does this actually increase this does this actually increase engagement will the algorithm see more engagement will the algorithm see more engagement will the algorithm see more engagement with your post and so broaden engagement with your post and so broaden engagement with your post and so broaden your reach thanks for all insight and your reach thanks for all insight and your reach thanks for all insight and wisdom keep on preaching to us yeah so I wisdom keep on preaching to us yeah so I wisdom keep on preaching to us yeah so I think the the psychology at work here is think the the psychology at work here is think the the psychology at work here is curiosity like Link in the comments curiosity like Link in the comments curiosity like Link in the comments below or I'll give my answer in the below or I'll give my answer in the below or I'll give my answer in the comments like oh oh the other reason comments like oh oh the other reason comments like oh oh the other reason that this works is because it inverts that this works is because it inverts that this works is because it inverts what's expected on social media what what's expected on social media what what's expected on social media what normally is happening basically SS normally is happening basically SS normally is happening basically SS creators are like please like this post creators are like please like this post creators are like please like this post please share this post please read this please share this post please read this please share this post please read this post please watch this video like I'm post please watch this video like I'm post please watch this video like I'm going to make it as easy as possible for going to make it as easy as possible for going to make it as easy as possible for you so it's it's kind of interesting you so it's it's kind of interesting you so it's it's kind of interesting when you see someone actually make when you see someone actually make when you see someone actually make things more difficult to engage with things more difficult to engage with things more difficult to engage with they're like if you want to know what I they're like if you want to know what I they're like if you want to know what I have to say you have to do more it's have to say you have to do more it's have to say you have to do more it's asking more of your audience and the asking more of your audience and the asking more of your audience and the reason it's successful is because you're

reason it's successful is because you're reason it's successful is because you're basically doing the opposite of what's basically doing the opposite of what's basically doing the opposite of what's expected wait a minute people are always expected wait a minute people are always expected wait a minute people are always begging for my attention and I'm not begging for my attention and I'm not begging for my attention and I'm not easy to give it because I know they're easy to give it because I know they're easy to give it because I know they're begging for it's like this person like begging for it's like this person like begging for it's like this person like they want me to actually work for I'm they want me to actually work for I'm they want me to actually work for I'm actually that much more likely so that's actually that much more likely so that's actually that much more likely so that's kind of like why why it's happening you kind of like why why it's happening you kind of like why why it's happening you know they like all tactics and know they like all tactics and know they like all tactics and techniques like really useful and you techniques like really useful and you techniques like really useful and you just want to use it sparingly right like just want to use it sparingly right like just want to use it sparingly right like if you did it all the time it wouldn't if you did it all the time it wouldn't if you did it all the time it wouldn't work anymore yeah I designed a social work anymore yeah I designed a social work anymore yeah I designed a social post like this for uh nucleus media post like this for uh nucleus media post like this for uh nucleus media recently and it went something like uh recently and it went something like uh recently and it went something like uh three ways to ground yourself in this three ways to ground yourself in this three ways to ground yourself in this moment so it's like it's a carousel post moment so it's like it's a carousel post moment so it's like it's a carousel post like number one feel your feet on the like number one feel your feet on the like number one feel your feet on the ground number two take a deep uh ground number two take a deep uh ground number two take a deep uh controlled breath number three pray this controlled breath number three pray this controlled breath number three pray this prayer with us in the comments and or in prayer with us in the comments and or in prayer with us in the comments and or in the caption so you have to click the the caption so you have to click the the caption so you have to click the caption to open it to pray the prayer caption to open it to pray the prayer caption to open it to pray the prayer wow you got them I got them well we'll wow you got them I got them well we'll wow you got them I got them well we'll see but uh yeah I think it'll get them see but uh yeah I think it'll get them see but uh yeah I think it'll get them but like you said useful tactic uh it'll but like you said useful tactic uh it'll but like you said useful tactic uh it'll pretty much always get them but use it pretty much always get them but use it pretty much always get them but use it dis sparingly cuzz I I follow folks who dis sparingly cuzz I I follow folks who dis sparingly cuzz I I follow folks who are always burying the lead really in are always burying the lead really in are always burying the lead really in the comments and it's like I'm just the comments and it's like I'm just the comments and it's like I'm just sorry I'm just swiping past this have sorry I'm just swiping past this have sorry I'm just swiping past this have time I can't say I know anyone that time I can't say I know anyone that time I can't say I know anyone that always does that always does that always does that yeah next yeah next yeah next question am I really reading this out question am I really reading this out question am I really reading this out loud good moral loud good moral loud good moral can good moral Canadian MGK and man bun Jesus I'm okay with MGK I'll take it and Jesus I'm okay with MGK I'll take it and I'm okay with man bun Jesus because I I'm okay with man bun Jesus because I I'm okay with man bun Jesus because I have had some disparaging remarks about have had some disparaging remarks about have had some disparaging remarks about my man bun on the internet so I'll take my man bun on the internet so I'll take my man bun on the internet so I'll take that and sfw yeah uh yeah we deleted that and sfw yeah uh yeah we deleted that and sfw yeah uh yeah we deleted those comments for sure what events and those comments for sure what events and those comments for sure what events and gatherings in your experience are gatherings in your experience are gatherings in your experience are churches doing that current members like

churches doing that current members like churches doing that current members like to attend and are great for non-members to attend and are great for non-members to attend and are great for non-members to be invited to we just want to create to be invited to we just want to create to be invited to we just want to create a better sense of community within our a better sense of community within our a better sense of community within our church and invite new people to get to church and invite new people to get to church and invite new people to get to know them and introduce who we are yeah know them and introduce who we are yeah know them and introduce who we are yeah easy answer really anything that easy answer really anything that easy answer really anything that involves kids or families yeah and this involves kids or families yeah and this involves kids or families yeah and this really does make people feel closer as a really does make people feel closer as a really does make people feel closer as a community because you're not separating community because you're not separating community because you're not separating parents from kids usually it's a family parents from kids usually it's a family parents from kids usually it's a family event and you know For Better or For event and you know For Better or For event and you know For Better or For Worse we're not here to kind of like Worse we're not here to kind of like Worse we're not here to kind of like debate on this typically you got kids debate on this typically you got kids debate on this typically you got kids programming you got adult programming in programming you got adult programming in programming you got adult programming in church right you're separating the kids church right you're separating the kids church right you're separating the kids from the parents whereas when in these from the parents whereas when in these from the parents whereas when in these types of events like everyone's all types of events like everyone's all types of events like everyone's all together so you have church families all together so you have church families all together so you have church families all together non-church families all together non-church families all together non-church families all together just a marry old time um together just a marry old time um together just a marry old time um examples of this you know Fall Festival examples of this you know Fall Festival examples of this you know Fall Festival Harvest Festival things like that Trunk Harvest Festival things like that Trunk Harvest Festival things like that Trunk or Treat very topical right now or Treat very topical right now or Treat very topical right now absolutely Trunk or Treat uh Christmas absolutely Trunk or Treat uh Christmas absolutely Trunk or Treat uh Christmas or Easter related you know your church or Easter related you know your church or Easter related you know your church maybe you're the church like hey maybe you're the church like hey maybe you're the church like hey pictures with Santa Easter egg drop pictures with Santa Easter egg drop pictures with Santa Easter egg drop million eggs I love the egg million eggs I love the egg million eggs I love the egg announcements man every year 78,000 announcements man every year 78,000 announcements man every year 78,000 eggs we last year we had 50,000 eggs eggs we last year we had 50,000 eggs eggs we last year we had 50,000 eggs this year 800,000 eggs it is so outside this year 800,000 eggs it is so outside this year 800,000 eggs it is so outside of the realm of my context for well of the realm of my context for well of the realm of my context for well that's what I said you know your mileage that's what I said you know your mileage that's what I said you know your mileage may may may vary the best are this the announcements vary the best are this the announcements vary the best are this the announcements that lead up to that please come to the that lead up to that please come to the that lead up to that please come to the church we need to pack eggs yes we have church we need to pack eggs yes we have church we need to pack eggs yes we have to pack many eggs no no chocolate it to pack many eggs no no chocolate it to pack many eggs no no chocolate it can't melt the helicopter is booked we can't melt the helicopter is booked we can't melt the helicopter is booked we need we need to pack these eggs before need we need to pack these eggs before need we need to pack these eggs before the chopper gets here and then you get the chopper gets here and then you get the chopper gets here and then you get to it it's like 1.7 million to it it's like 1.7 million to it it's like 1.7 million eggs who's cleaning up the eggs

eggs who's cleaning up the eggs eggs who's cleaning up the eggs sprinkled from Heaven no they weren't sprinkled from Heaven no they weren't sprinkled from Heaven no they weren't sprinkled from heaven we packed them by sprinkled from heaven we packed them by sprinkled from heaven we packed them by hand my fingers are bleeding literally hand my fingers are bleeding literally hand my fingers are bleeding literally candy grenades like you got like the candy grenades like you got like the candy grenades like you got like the chopper it's like Drop the Bomb here chopper it's like Drop the Bomb here chopper it's like Drop the Bomb here come the come the come the eggs here's me at Easter I go to Bulk eggs here's me at Easter I go to Bulk eggs here's me at Easter I go to Bulk Barn by myself and I buy a couple bags Barn by myself and I buy a couple bags Barn by myself and I buy a couple bags of chocolate eggs and on Easter Sunday of chocolate eggs and on Easter Sunday of chocolate eggs and on Easter Sunday I'm marking out a little circle in our I'm marking out a little circle in our I'm marking out a little circle in our in our property with with uh caution in our property with with uh caution in our property with with uh caution tape and I'm out there sprinkling tape and I'm out there sprinkling tape and I'm out there sprinkling chocolate eggs into the grass before the chocolate eggs into the grass before the chocolate eggs into the grass before the kids come so that's that's how we do it kids come so that's that's how we do it kids come so that's that's how we do it at life abundant egg your your church is at life abundant egg your your church is at life abundant egg your your church is like right across the street from ours like right across the street from ours like right across the street from ours just imagining like our church doing just imagining like our church doing just imagining like our church doing this we got an egg this we got an egg this we got an egg bazooka Alex is there he's like there bazooka Alex is there he's like there bazooka Alex is there he's like there shrap falling on our property where' the shrap falling on our property where' the shrap falling on our property where' the eggs go they're on life abundant get eggs go they're on life abundant get eggs go they're on life abundant get that like it's an opposing Church coming that like it's an opposing Church coming that like it's an opposing Church coming over on Easter Sunday get their eggs oh over on Easter Sunday get their eggs oh over on Easter Sunday get their eggs oh my gosh the kids there life abundant oh my gosh the kids there life abundant oh my gosh the kids there life abundant oh what what happened to all of our eggs what what happened to all of our eggs what what happened to all of our eggs entral kids we got them oh my gosh it's so bad because it them oh my gosh it's so bad because it is plausible like your our churches are is plausible like your our churches are is plausible like your our churches are that close to each that close to each that close to each other boom I mean woo you know those um other boom I mean woo you know those um other boom I mean woo you know those um uh you know those confetti cannons yeah uh you know those confetti cannons yeah uh you know those confetti cannons yeah yeah yeah that's what we need we need yeah yeah that's what we need we need yeah yeah that's what we need we need like egg cannons like in the sanctuary like egg cannons like in the sanctuary like egg cannons like in the sanctuary end of a song eggs Bo your church is end of a song eggs Bo your church is end of a song eggs Bo your church is probably already planning for Easter probably already planning for Easter probably already planning for Easter well we're definitely like done well we're definitely like done well we're definitely like done Christmas I know I was talking to our Christmas I know I was talking to our Christmas I know I was talking to our worship Pastor she's like I finished worship Pastor she's like I finished worship Pastor she's like I finished Christmas months ago yeah you fool I Christmas months ago yeah you fool I Christmas months ago yeah you fool I remember we were doing some work with

remember we were doing some work with remember we were doing some work with your church uh this time last year a your church uh this time last year a your church uh this time last year a little bit earlier like late summer last little bit earlier like late summer last little bit earlier like late summer last year and I was with no I was with Mel year and I was with no I was with Mel year and I was with no I was with Mel and she was singing Christmas music and she was singing Christmas music and she was singing Christmas music she's worship B and she was singing she's worship B and she was singing she's worship B and she was singing Christmas music to herself and it was Christmas music to herself and it was Christmas music to herself and it was like it was like August I'm like now like it was like August I'm like now like it was like August I'm like now what like are you sing Joy to the World what like are you sing Joy to the World what like are you sing Joy to the World he's like yeah just just finishing up he's like yeah just just finishing up he's like yeah just just finishing up Christmas like finishing up Christmas Christmas like finishing up Christmas Christmas like finishing up Christmas stuff it's July but yeah you got to do stuff it's July but yeah you got to do stuff it's July but yeah you got to do what you got to do you got a helicopter what you got to do you got a helicopter what you got to do you got a helicopter is a is a is a book can is to be clear I don't think book can is to be clear I don't think book can is to be clear I don't think we've ever done no but some Churches we've ever done no but some Churches we've ever done no but some Churches have 4.5 million eggs uh this next have 4.5 million eggs uh this next have 4.5 million eggs uh this next question a twofer uh first of all is question a twofer uh first of all is question a twofer uh first of all is Nacho Libre a good movie and second of Nacho Libre a good movie and second of Nacho Libre a good movie and second of all what are your favorite 90s Sports all what are your favorite 90s Sports all what are your favorite 90s Sports movies okay did you categorize Nao movies okay did you categorize Nao movies okay did you categorize Nao libbre as a sports movie no they were libbre as a sports movie no they were libbre as a sports movie no they were separate questions I put them together separate questions I put them together separate questions I put them together okay cuz the first I was like okay the okay cuz the first I was like okay the okay cuz the first I was like okay the first one's an easy answer no yeah but first one's an easy answer no yeah but first one's an easy answer no yeah but people love Nacho Libre and there's people love Nacho Libre and there's people love Nacho Libre and there's something about Christian kids loving something about Christian kids loving something about Christian kids loving Nacho Libre my wife and my Nacho Libre my wife and my Nacho Libre my wife and my brother-in-law would Pummel me they they brother-in-law would Pummel me they they brother-in-law would Pummel me they they stay in that movie They Ride for it so stay in that movie They Ride for it so stay in that movie They Ride for it so hard it's clean right that's why that's hard it's clean right that's why that's hard it's clean right that's why that's so they're allowed to watch it they're so they're allowed to watch it they're so they're allowed to watch it they're not watching step brother or um what's not watching step brother or um what's not watching step brother or um what's the other one I'm think not Anchor Man the other one I'm think not Anchor Man the other one I'm think not Anchor Man well Anor man's one of them Napoleon well Anor man's one of them Napoleon well Anor man's one of them Napoleon Dynamite right right right right they Dynamite right right right right they Dynamite right right right right they needed like dumb humor that was clean needed like dumb humor that was clean needed like dumb humor that was clean because that was the only intersection because that was the only intersection because that was the only intersection of humor that a homeschooled Christian of humor that a homeschooled Christian of humor that a homeschooled Christian kid was allowed to have right like kid was allowed to have right like kid was allowed to have right like nothing runchy nothing explicit so then nothing runchy nothing explicit so then nothing runchy nothing explicit so then what's the only type of humor left dumb what's the only type of humor left dumb what's the only type of humor left dumb humor yeah and so then they're like oh humor yeah and so then they're like oh humor yeah and so then they're like oh Jack Black he's like a big actor doing Jack Black he's like a big actor doing Jack Black he's like a big actor doing dumb humor this is I watched it and I

dumb humor this is I watched it and I dumb humor this is I watched it and I was like what are we doing right what is was like what are we doing right what is was like what are we doing right what is this yeah the only part about that movie this yeah the only part about that movie this yeah the only part about that movie that's redeemable is when they say that's redeemable is when they say that's redeemable is when they say what's on the inside of a man you'll what's on the inside of a man you'll what's on the inside of a man you'll find his nucleus because we run a find his nucleus because we run a find his nucleus because we run a platform called nucleus no it's not a platform called nucleus no it's not a platform called nucleus no it's not a good movie it's bad you want a good Jack good movie it's bad you want a good Jack good movie it's bad you want a good Jack Black movie to show your kids School of Black movie to show your kids School of Black movie to show your kids School of Rock that's what I show my kid and now Rock that's what I show my kid and now Rock that's what I show my kid and now we and we sing that we sing the We Sing we and we sing that we sing the We Sing we and we sing that we sing the We Sing the School of Rock song okay so what the School of Rock song okay so what the School of Rock song okay so what about 90 Sports movies okay I got Space about 90 Sports movies okay I got Space about 90 Sports movies okay I got Space Jam classic nothing better Happy Gilmore Jam classic nothing better Happy Gilmore Jam classic nothing better Happy Gilmore yeah uh doesn't really hold up but like yeah uh doesn't really hold up but like yeah uh doesn't really hold up but like I watched Mighty Ducks so many times all I watched Mighty Ducks so many times all I watched Mighty Ducks so many times all of them yeah like mostly one and two but of them yeah like mostly one and two but of them yeah like mostly one and two but a little three mostly one yeah and then a little three mostly one yeah and then a little three mostly one yeah and then uh definitely not like these are like 90 uh definitely not like these are like 90 uh definitely not like these are like 90 Sports movies that I've visited as an Sports movies that I've visited as an Sports movies that I've visited as an older person older person older person not as a child white man can't jump and not as a child white man can't jump and not as a child white man can't jump and He Got Game yeah I haven't seen either He Got Game yeah I haven't seen either He Got Game yeah I haven't seen either of those But Mighty Ducks was like was of those But Mighty Ducks was like was of those But Mighty Ducks was like was on a heavy rotation uh both at home and on a heavy rotation uh both at home and on a heavy rotation uh both at home and at my grandparents when I went there at my grandparents when I went there at my grandparents when I went there when I was sick it was like I'm either when I was sick it was like I'm either when I was sick it was like I'm either watching Mighty Ducks or Titanic which watching Mighty Ducks or Titanic which watching Mighty Ducks or Titanic which Titanic I should not have been watching Titanic I should not have been watching Titanic I should not have been watching Titanic uh but that was that movie was Titanic uh but that was that movie was Titanic uh but that was that movie was so long I remember it was a two I was so long I remember it was a two I was so long I remember it was a two I was thinking about that the other day I was thinking about that the other day I was thinking about that the other day I was thinking about that exactly the two VHS thinking about that exactly the two VHS thinking about that exactly the two VHS VHS yeah Leo was in his bag we got just VHS yeah Leo was in his bag we got just VHS yeah Leo was in his bag we got just won't fit on one tape yes um well I was won't fit on one tape yes um well I was won't fit on one tape yes um well I was thinking off the top of my head like thinking off the top of my head like thinking off the top of my head like what are other 9s Sports movies I what are other 9s Sports movies I what are other 9s Sports movies I couldn't come up with anything I'm sure couldn't come up with anything I'm sure couldn't come up with anything I'm sure there are other 90s Sports movies yeah there are other 90s Sports movies yeah there are other 90s Sports movies yeah it couldn't come up with anything but it couldn't come up with anything but it couldn't come up with anything but the big green giant big green it was the big green giant big green it was the big green giant big green it was like the soccer team and uh I don't

like the soccer team and uh I don't like the soccer team and uh I don't remember that one uh oh Sandlot never remember that one uh oh Sandlot never remember that one uh oh Sandlot never saw that oh never saw Sandlot no that's saw that oh never saw Sandlot no that's saw that oh never saw Sandlot no that's crazy and there was a Space Jam 2 no crazy and there was a Space Jam 2 no crazy and there was a Space Jam 2 no well like recently with LeBron yeah did well like recently with LeBron yeah did well like recently with LeBron yeah did you watch that yeah how was it fine yeah you watch that yeah how was it fine yeah you watch that yeah how was it fine yeah me and liil watched it we liked it was me and liil watched it we liked it was me and liil watched it we liked it was it a remake of the first or was it like it a remake of the first or was it like it a remake of the first or was it like an altogether new plot uh very similar an altogether new plot uh very similar an altogether new plot uh very similar okay yeah but just like modernized yeah okay yeah but just like modernized yeah okay yeah but just like modernized yeah here they're modernizing the office here they're modernizing the office here they're modernizing the office they're rebooting it what is that I they're rebooting it what is that I they're rebooting it what is that I can't be real saw something about that can't be real saw something about that can't be real saw something about that and I didn't want it to be true so I and I didn't want it to be true so I and I didn't want it to be true so I kept scrolling That's The Darkest kept scrolling That's The Darkest kept scrolling That's The Darkest Timeline okay let's move on well if you Timeline okay let's move on well if you Timeline okay let's move on well if you were designing a Church website with were designing a Church website with were designing a Church website with only Essentials what info or how many only Essentials what info or how many only Essentials what info or how many pages would you include to be effective pages would you include to be effective pages would you include to be effective yet minimal yeah so here's my list for yet minimal yeah so here's my list for yet minimal yeah so here's my list for like the absolute minimal list of things like the absolute minimal list of things like the absolute minimal list of things you need for a Church website five pages you need for a Church website five pages you need for a Church website five pages only homepage about us staff calendar only homepage about us staff calendar only homepage about us staff calendar next steps easy you want to see that how next steps easy you want to see that how next steps easy you want to see that how we how I would arrange that life we how I would arrange that life we how I would arrange that life abundant. La that is a nucleus demo I abundant. La that is a nucleus demo I abundant. La that is a nucleus demo I built it shows you exactly those five built it shows you exactly those five built it shows you exactly those five pages hope church. XYZ I built that one pages hope church. XYZ I built that one pages hope church. XYZ I built that one too reality bible. church I built that too reality bible. church I built that too reality bible. church I built that one too go to those three five pages one too go to those three five pages one too go to those three five pages only and say okay but what about kids only and say okay but what about kids only and say okay but what about kids ministry it's all there that's how I ministry it's all there that's how I ministry it's all there that's how I would do it uh second thing you need would do it uh second thing you need would do it uh second thing you need photos of people in your church photos of people in your church photos of people in your church non-negotiable I need to see the people non-negotiable I need to see the people non-negotiable I need to see the people in your church see the sanctuary the in your church see the sanctuary the in your church see the sanctuary the lobby what is the church like if you're lobby what is the church like if you're lobby what is the church like if you're going minimal then those photos can going minimal then those photos can going minimal then those photos can communicate in an instant what would communicate in an instant what would communicate in an instant what would take paragraphs worth of text so that's take paragraphs worth of text so that's take paragraphs worth of text so that's a great way to be minimal yes it a great way to be minimal yes it a great way to be minimal yes it requires you to take some photos but I

requires you to take some photos but I requires you to take some photos but I mean we're shooting like we're shooting mean we're shooting like we're shooting mean we're shooting like we're shooting Pro res raw now on these phones Pro res raw now on these phones Pro res raw now on these phones apparently so you can take great photos apparently so you can take great photos apparently so you can take great photos even with your phones address and even with your phones address and even with your phones address and service times on both your homepage and service times on both your homepage and service times on both your homepage and in the footer having them in the footer in the footer having them in the footer in the footer having them in the footer means they're going to be accessible on means they're going to be accessible on means they're going to be accessible on every single page prominent on the every single page prominent on the every single page prominent on the homepage you can see again how I did on homepage you can see again how I did on homepage you can see again how I did on those demo websites and that will give those demo websites and that will give those demo websites and that will give you a good idea of that the launcher buy you a good idea of that the launcher buy you a good idea of that the launcher buy nucleus free plugin get that download it nucleus free plugin get that download it nucleus free plugin get that download it install it works on any Church website install it works on any Church website install it works on any Church website free forever truthfully that's the key free forever truthfully that's the key free forever truthfully that's the key to having a minimal Church website with to having a minimal Church website with to having a minimal Church website with like with five pages or around there is like with five pages or around there is like with five pages or around there is right is having a an area whether it's a right is having a an area whether it's a right is having a an area whether it's a next steps page or the launch where you next steps page or the launch where you next steps page or the launch where you can host all your next steps two collect can host all your next steps two collect can host all your next steps two collect all the data for all of your Ministries all the data for all of your Ministries all the data for all of your Ministries you could have a 100 Ministries you you could have a 100 Ministries you you could have a 100 Ministries you could have you know you could have 3,000 could have you know you could have 3,000 could have you know you could have 3,000 you could have 4.2 million small groups you could have 4.2 million small groups you could have 4.2 million small groups to match your 4.2 million eggs EGS and to match your 4.2 million eggs EGS and to match your 4.2 million eggs EGS and you could host them all in the launcher you could host them all in the launcher you could host them all in the launcher so it doesn't account for 4.2 million so it doesn't account for 4.2 million so it doesn't account for 4.2 million Pages all those next steps can be taken Pages all those next steps can be taken Pages all those next steps can be taken in that one place uh final thing plan in that one place uh final thing plan in that one place uh final thing plan and visit sequence this could be really and visit sequence this could be really and visit sequence this could be really robust it could be simple you don't need robust it could be simple you don't need robust it could be simple you don't need to do like you know really there's some to do like you know really there's some to do like you know really there's some planed visit sequences you're like a planed visit sequences you're like a planed visit sequences you're like a that kind of turns me off that's not my that kind of turns me off that's not my that kind of turns me off that's not my sort of thing like someone wants to come sort of thing like someone wants to come sort of thing like someone wants to come to your church there should be just to your church there should be just to your church there should be just something yeah whether it's just a something yeah whether it's just a something yeah whether it's just a simple page that shows them what to simple page that shows them what to simple page that shows them what to expect or like hey a form and a flow and expect or like hey a form and a flow and expect or like hey a form and a flow and you can go and see you know our example you can go and see you know our example you can go and see you know our example of this we have a full plan of visit of this we have a full plan of visit of this we have a full plan of visit sequence that you can you know copy and sequence that you can you know copy and sequence that you can you know copy and paste there's a slider Carousel post paste there's a slider Carousel post paste there's a slider Carousel post dedicated to that on my Instagram you dedicated to that on my Instagram you dedicated to that on my Instagram you can also go to those those demo sites can also go to those those demo sites can also go to those those demo sites and see how we do it if you want to be and see how we do it if you want to be and see how we do it if you want to be more elaborate but some type of plan of more elaborate but some type of plan of more elaborate but some type of plan of visit sequence you mentioned the new visit sequence you mentioned the new visit sequence you mentioned the new iPhones um not included in this episode

iPhones um not included in this episode iPhones um not included in this episode are are two uh most affectionate are are two uh most affectionate are are two uh most affectionate question is what's right L what's right question is what's right L what's right question is what's right L what's right lately and what's wrong lately what's lately and what's wrong lately what's lately and what's wrong lately what's right lately is I got my phone fixed so right lately is I got my phone fixed so right lately is I got my phone fixed so shout out to me for getting my phone fix shout out to me for getting my phone fix shout out to me for getting my phone fix look sharp what's wrong lately is that I look sharp what's wrong lately is that I look sharp what's wrong lately is that I ordered a new iPhone 15 Pro Max over the ordered a new iPhone 15 Pro Max over the ordered a new iPhone 15 Pro Max over the phone and it got delivered yesterday to phone and it got delivered yesterday to phone and it got delivered yesterday to my surprise it was not the 15 Pro Max it my surprise it was not the 15 Pro Max it my surprise it was not the 15 Pro Max it was the 15 Pro yes so yeah it looks like was the 15 Pro yes so yeah it looks like was the 15 Pro yes so yeah it looks like a miniature phone cuz I've had the max a miniature phone cuz I've had the max a miniature phone cuz I've had the max version for as long can't go back we're version for as long can't go back we're version for as long can't go back we're both Max boys I picked it up out of the both Max boys I picked it up out of the both Max boys I picked it up out of the out of the case and I knew immediately I out of the case and I knew immediately I out of the case and I knew immediately I was like uh this feels fake microphone was like uh this feels fake microphone was like uh this feels fake microphone yes so I last night I had to go through yes so I last night I had to go through yes so I last night I had to go through the whole process of cancelling the whole process of cancelling the whole process of cancelling everything that we had done Yik everything that we had done Yik everything that we had done Yik processing a return and then starting processing a return and then starting processing a return and then starting from the beginning on a new 15 PR Max from the beginning on a new 15 PR Max from the beginning on a new 15 PR Max which will ship um I don't know we're which will ship um I don't know we're which will ship um I don't know we're recording this episode you wouldn't even recording this episode you wouldn't even recording this episode you wouldn't even had it by now they take the prom Maxes had it by now they take the prom Maxes had it by now they take the prom Maxes are always the last ones they said are always the last ones they said are always the last ones they said they'll ship it uh mid November yeah they'll ship it uh mid November yeah they'll ship it uh mid November yeah that sounds about right yeah so that's that sounds about right yeah so that's that sounds about right yeah so that's where we're at you have been having a where we're at you have been having a where we're at you have been having a bad run yeah it's not great I you know bad run yeah it's not great I you know bad run yeah it's not great I you know what's funny I thought I thought it was what's funny I thought I thought it was what's funny I thought I thought it was turning around when the phone got turning around when the phone got turning around when the phone got delivered because it got delivered delivered because it got delivered delivered because it got delivered earlier than it was supposed to I was earlier than it was supposed to I was earlier than it was supposed to I was like wow how am I getting this quicker like wow how am I getting this quicker like wow how am I getting this quicker than I was meant to that was so full than I was meant to that was so full than I was meant to that was so full yeah um so what's right lately I didn't yeah um so what's right lately I didn't yeah um so what's right lately I didn't even add this you know what's right even add this you know what's right even add this you know what's right lately putting interesting food items in lately putting interesting food items in lately putting interesting food items in guac hm hear me out tell me guac hm hear me out tell me guac hm hear me out tell me so a beloved former Mexican joint near so a beloved former Mexican joint near so a beloved former Mexican joint near us yeah pine nuts in the guac yeah us yeah pine nuts in the guac yeah us yeah pine nuts in the guac yeah revelatory M I thought that was all that revelatory M I thought that was all that revelatory M I thought that was all that could be done them our neighbors hosting

could be done them our neighbors hosting could be done them our neighbors hosting a summer barbecue put shrimp in the a summer barbecue put shrimp in the a summer barbecue put shrimp in the guac it was so good yeah I mean I guess guac it was so good yeah I mean I guess guac it was so good yeah I mean I guess it why wouldn't it work like they were it why wouldn't it work like they were it why wouldn't it work like they were the little the little the little TRS then our other neighbors are like TRS then our other neighbors are like TRS then our other neighbors are like let's host it again someone should make let's host it again someone should make let's host it again someone should make guac so my wife is like I'm a guac so my wife is like I'm a guac so my wife is like I'm a meok right what she put in it so she meok right what she put in it so she meok right what she put in it so she can't do pine nuts because awon found can't do pine nuts because awon found can't do pine nuts because awon found did it can't do shrim been done been did it can't do shrim been done been did it can't do shrim been done been done so she not a cook what's not even done so she not a cook what's not even done so she not a cook what's not even not a cook my wife and my mom rest her not a cook my wife and my mom rest her not a cook my wife and my mom rest her soul are in a soul are in a soul are in a fight of who is the worst cook but you fight of who is the worst cook but you fight of who is the worst cook but you know your wife is appar apparently a know your wife is appar apparently a know your wife is appar apparently a brilliant Baker what is that about she brilliant Baker what is that about she brilliant Baker what is that about she can do some baking and she can make she can do some baking and she can make she can do some baking and she can make she can do the cakes yeah yeah so what she can do the cakes yeah yeah so what she can do the cakes yeah yeah so what she did with the guac was she didn't mash did with the guac was she didn't mash did with the guac was she didn't mash the avocado it was cut in like cubes the avocado it was cut in like cubes the avocado it was cut in like cubes okay and then the tomatoes were a okay and then the tomatoes were a okay and then the tomatoes were a similar size and the onions were similar similar size and the onions were similar similar size and the onions were similar size so it's kind of like a a guac salad size so it's kind of like a a guac salad size so it's kind of like a a guac salad which was interesting similar sized which was interesting similar sized which was interesting similar sized Edition mangoes yeah yeah the Edition mangoes yeah yeah the Edition mangoes yeah yeah the sweetness it it was the hit of the party sweetness it it was the hit of the party sweetness it it was the hit of the party everyone was like what yeah I've heard everyone was like what yeah I've heard everyone was like what yeah I've heard pom granits that bro so that was the pom granits that bro so that was the pom granits that bro so that was the next one I was going to say I have yet next one I was going to say I have yet next one I was going to say I have yet to try that but I want to we got to keep to try that but I want to we got to keep to try that but I want to we got to keep putting more things in guac little burst putting more things in guac little burst putting more things in guac little burst of of sweetness aity great color match of of sweetness aity great color match of of sweetness aity great color match those red onions I was thinking about it those red onions I was thinking about it those red onions I was thinking about it fries my favorite food in in the world fries my favorite food in in the world fries my favorite food in in the world what do you put on a fry I don't know what do you put on a fry I don't know what do you put on a fry I don't know what do you want to put on it yeah blank what do you want to put on it yeah blank what do you want to put on it yeah blank canvas chili cheese shout out to the canvas chili cheese shout out to the canvas chili cheese shout out to the goat fried suprema Taco Bell poutin

goat fried suprema Taco Bell poutin goat fried suprema Taco Bell poutin gravy cheese curds ketchup a little malt gravy cheese curds ketchup a little malt gravy cheese curds ketchup a little malt Vin love it like it doesn't matter it's Vin love it like it doesn't matter it's Vin love it like it doesn't matter it's a blank canvas we got to treat guac the a blank canvas we got to treat guac the a blank canvas we got to treat guac the same way here's my here's my same way here's my here's my same way here's my here's my apprehension okay not about any of this apprehension okay not about any of this apprehension okay not about any of this this all sounds tasty to me but you and this all sounds tasty to me but you and this all sounds tasty to me but you and I are pretty far removed from Latin I are pretty far removed from Latin I are pretty far removed from Latin culture and so I wonder if this sounds culture and so I wonder if this sounds culture and so I wonder if this sounds like slander to the origins of guac I like slander to the origins of guac I like slander to the origins of guac I just I'm wondering Al loud well we just I'm wondering Al loud well we just I'm wondering Al loud well we should probably consider should probably consider should probably consider that there's folks listening to this that there's folks listening to this that there's folks listening to this they're putting pomegranate in the they're putting pomegranate in the they're putting pomegranate in the guacamole what are you do white talking guacamole what are you do white talking guacamole what are you do white talking about the whes so so okay per it's a about the whes so so okay per it's a about the whes so so okay per it's a good idea that aide that aide good idea that aide that aide good idea that aide that aide just you know we've now tested it with a just you know we've now tested it with a just you know we've now tested it with a salty crunchy thing and it worked like a salty crunchy thing and it worked like a salty crunchy thing and it worked like a slimy seed in a pomegranate worked a slimy seed in a pomegranate worked a slimy seed in a pomegranate worked a tropical fruit worked a Under the Sea tropical fruit worked a Under the Sea tropical fruit worked a Under the Sea meat yeah worked like what is not going meat yeah worked like what is not going meat yeah worked like what is not going to work at this point I just keep to work at this point I just keep to work at this point I just keep throwing stuff in I sometimes when we throwing stuff in I sometimes when we throwing stuff in I sometimes when we make walk at home we go we sneak a make walk at home we go we sneak a make walk at home we go we sneak a little bit of chalula in there so it's a little bit of chalula in there so it's a little bit of chalula in there so it's a hot sauce but it's not but it's not hot hot sauce but it's not but it's not hot hot sauce but it's not but it's not hot it's more you get more flavor from it it's more you get more flavor from it it's more you get more flavor from it than heat you just sneak a little in than heat you just sneak a little in than heat you just sneak a little in there just a little bit of depth of there just a little bit of depth of there just a little bit of depth of flavor diversity of flavor if you will flavor diversity of flavor if you will flavor diversity of flavor if you will and I like to to to Britney's Innovation and I like to to to Britney's Innovation and I like to to to Britney's Innovation um I like a guac that is not like One um I like a guac that is not like One um I like a guac that is not like One Singular mashed texture I like like a Singular mashed texture I like like a Singular mashed texture I like like a like a light Mash there's like a couple like a light Mash there's like a couple like a light Mash there's like a couple bits of firm avocado you know yeah and I bits of firm avocado you know yeah and I bits of firm avocado you know yeah and I really don't like when it's like only

really don't like when it's like only really don't like when it's like only guac only avocado lime juice and salt guac only avocado lime juice and salt guac only avocado lime juice and salt and it just becomes like a slurry yeah and it just becomes like a slurry yeah and it just becomes like a slurry yeah what doing yeah yeah if the Latin what doing yeah yeah if the Latin what doing yeah yeah if the Latin American folk are listening to me like American folk are listening to me like American folk are listening to me like no that's real guac I'm sorry I we are no that's real guac I'm sorry I we are no that's real guac I'm sorry I we are we are at uh we are departing from one we are at uh we are departing from one we are at uh we are departing from one another because we are not going to another because we are not going to another because we are not going to agree and if you say it's appropriation agree and if you say it's appropriation agree and if you say it's appropriation I what can I do I I can't do it I can't I what can I do I I can't do it I can't I what can I do I I can't do it I can't do do do it okay well speaking of additives to it okay well speaking of additives to it okay well speaking of additives to foods and drinks the question comes in foods and drinks the question comes in foods and drinks the question comes in to a coffee talk with um darkos daddy to a coffee talk with um darkos daddy to a coffee talk with um darkos daddy why does cream and sugar make coffee 10 why does cream and sugar make coffee 10 why does cream and sugar make coffee 10 times better times better times better and it's a great question because it is and it's a great question because it is and it's a great question because it is like universally true and like I'm I'm like universally true and like I'm I'm like universally true and like I'm I'm willing to admit that that like in a lot willing to admit that that like in a lot willing to admit that that like in a lot of cases in a lot of cases adding milk of cases in a lot of cases adding milk of cases in a lot of cases adding milk and sugar to your coffee makes it a and sugar to your coffee makes it a and sugar to your coffee makes it a little bit better and that's because in little bit better and that's because in little bit better and that's because in most cases the coffee that milk and most cases the coffee that milk and most cases the coffee that milk and sugar is being added to is either like sugar is being added to is either like sugar is being added to is either like um I mean it could very well be ranted um I mean it could very well be ranted um I mean it could very well be ranted like it could just be old and ranted um like it could just be old and ranted um like it could just be old and ranted um it's just too dark all of that to say or it's just too dark all of that to say or it's just too dark all of that to say or brw him properly all of that to say it brw him properly all of that to say it brw him properly all of that to say it is it is accentuating the natural is it is accentuating the natural is it is accentuating the natural bitterness of coffee and really bitterness of coffee and really bitterness of coffee and really downplaying the the natural and pleasant downplaying the the natural and pleasant downplaying the the natural and pleasant sweetness and acidity that coffee can sweetness and acidity that coffee can sweetness and acidity that coffee can have and so it's adding cream and sugar have and so it's adding cream and sugar have and so it's adding cream and sugar to coffee and turning it into something to coffee and turning it into something to coffee and turning it into something really enjoyable is the same reason like really enjoyable is the same reason like really enjoyable is the same reason like um you know last night I made a raw

um you know last night I made a raw um you know last night I made a raw broccolini salad so it's literally just broccolini salad so it's literally just broccolini salad so it's literally just chopped broccolini like small broccoli chopped broccolini like small broccoli chopped broccolini like small broccoli olive oil and salt and if you were to olive oil and salt and if you were to olive oil and salt and if you were to make it with just olive oil and eat it make it with just olive oil and eat it make it with just olive oil and eat it it would just be like like unpleasantly it would just be like like unpleasantly it would just be like like unpleasantly bitter but adding the salt accounts for bitter but adding the salt accounts for bitter but adding the salt accounts for the bitterness it counterbalances it the bitterness it counterbalances it the bitterness it counterbalances it it's the same way we use acidity in the it's the same way we use acidity in the it's the same way we use acidity in the kitchen if you got something that's a kitchen if you got something that's a kitchen if you got something that's a little bit too salty you squeeze some little bit too salty you squeeze some little bit too salty you squeeze some lemon it'll balance out the saltiness if lemon it'll balance out the saltiness if lemon it'll balance out the saltiness if you have something that's a little too you have something that's a little too you have something that's a little too bitter you add some honey or some sugar bitter you add some honey or some sugar bitter you add some honey or some sugar to balance out the sweetness and so to balance out the sweetness and so to balance out the sweetness and so that's just the function that that cream that's just the function that that cream that's just the function that that cream and sugar is playing in that cup of and sugar is playing in that cup of and sugar is playing in that cup of coffee that by itself is just going to coffee that by itself is just going to coffee that by itself is just going to be too bitter too astringent too rancid be too bitter too astringent too rancid be too bitter too astringent too rancid it's accounting for that and and adding it's accounting for that and and adding it's accounting for that and and adding some like some you know lactic mouth some like some you know lactic mouth some like some you know lactic mouth feel some creamy from the dairy and feel some creamy from the dairy and feel some creamy from the dairy and lactic mouth feel yeah sorry this is lactic mouth feel yeah sorry this is lactic mouth feel yeah sorry this is this is the dark Roose Daddy and some this is the dark Roose Daddy and some this is the dark Roose Daddy and some sweetness to just to compensate for sweetness to just to compensate for sweetness to just to compensate for what's naturally there okay but but what's naturally there okay but but what's naturally there okay but but there's a whole other world thank God there's a whole other world thank God there's a whole other world thank God it's like you know if you're drinking it's like you know if you're drinking it's like you know if you're drinking box wine I understand why you're putting box wine I understand why you're putting box wine I understand why you're putting an ice cube in it yeah like we're an ice cube in it yeah like we're an ice cube in it yeah like we're talking Duncans and talking Duncans and talking Duncans and right but there's a whole which is the right but there's a whole which is the right but there's a whole which is the most the majority of like coffee that's most the majority of like coffee that's most the majority of like coffee that's consumed in the world but there's a consumed in the world but there's a consumed in the world but there's a whole other world of specialty coffee whole other world of specialty coffee whole other world of specialty coffee that I I welcome you into wholeheartedly that I I welcome you into wholeheartedly that I I welcome you into wholeheartedly come follow me on Instagram alexander.

come follow me on Instagram alexander. come follow me on Instagram alexander. Mills and don't look at dark roast daddy Mills and don't look at dark roast daddy Mills and don't look at dark roast daddy online yeah no that's not me and uh online yeah no that's not me and uh online yeah no that's not me and uh there's a whole other world where there there's a whole other world where there there's a whole other world where there is a way to roast coffee and brew coffee is a way to roast coffee and brew coffee is a way to roast coffee and brew coffee and present coffee that that accounts and present coffee that that accounts and present coffee that that accounts that that that brings out the natural that that that brings out the natural that that that brings out the natural acidity and sweetness um that actually acidity and sweetness um that actually acidity and sweetness um that actually in some cases when I used to own and in some cases when I used to own and in some cases when I used to own and operate a cafe we would Brew coffees operate a cafe we would Brew coffees operate a cafe we would Brew coffees that were so brilliantly acidic and like that were so brilliantly acidic and like that were so brilliantly acidic and like acidic in the way that like a raspberry acidic in the way that like a raspberry acidic in the way that like a raspberry is acidic like that good oh it gives you is acidic like that good oh it gives you is acidic like that good oh it gives you like the jingles on the so when I say like the jingles on the so when I say like the jingles on the so when I say acidity that's what I'm talking about so acidity that's what I'm talking about so acidity that's what I'm talking about so brilliantly acidic and so naturally brilliantly acidic and so naturally brilliantly acidic and so naturally sweet that if you added milk or sugar to sweet that if you added milk or sugar to sweet that if you added milk or sugar to those coffees it would like it it would those coffees it would like it it would those coffees it would like it it would not play off that flavor profile well not play off that flavor profile well not play off that flavor profile well and would actually turn into something and would actually turn into something and would actually turn into something that was not enjoyable to anyone and so that was not enjoyable to anyone and so that was not enjoyable to anyone and so those coffees we would actually those coffees we would actually those coffees we would actually recommend commend we only serve black if recommend commend we only serve black if recommend commend we only serve black if you want something to add milk and sugar you want something to add milk and sugar you want something to add milk and sugar we have a different coffee but this we have a different coffee but this we have a different coffee but this coffee is so brilliant that if you add coffee is so brilliant that if you add coffee is so brilliant that if you add milk and sugar not even just from like a milk and sugar not even just from like a milk and sugar not even just from like a a snobbery stpo standpoint but like a snobbery stpo standpoint but like a snobbery stpo standpoint but like practically it's not going to taste good practically it's not going to taste good practically it's not going to taste good so there's a whole world out there of so there's a whole world out there of so there's a whole world out there of black coffee that tastes better with black coffee that tastes better with black coffee that tastes better with milk and sugar so you know when you have milk and sugar so you know when you have milk and sugar so you know when you have like the feeling when you heat the like the feeling when you heat the like the feeling when you heat the raspberry is there a word for that cuz I raspberry is there a word for that cuz I raspberry is there a word for that cuz I would like to propose the term yeah I would like to propose the term yeah I would like to propose the term yeah I mean I mean the the player there is mean I mean the the player there is mean I mean the the player there is citric acid or malic acid oh that's citric acid or malic acid oh that's citric acid or malic acid oh that's great no I'm what we're to call it we're great no I'm what we're to call it we're great no I'm what we're to call it we're going to call that jingle jaw cuz it going to call that jingle jaw cuz it going to call that jingle jaw cuz it gives you it just it it's jingly it gives you it just it it's jingly it gives you it just it it's jingly it Jingles yeah so because every time it Jingles yeah so because every time it Jingles yeah so because every time it happens I'm like at home I'm like it's happens I'm like at home I'm like it's happens I'm like at home I'm like it's the thing is happening yeah jingle jaw

the thing is happening yeah jingle jaw the thing is happening yeah jingle jaw jingle jingle jingle jaw vote yeah or n absolutely yay I'm jaw vote yeah or n absolutely yay I'm jaw vote yeah or n absolutely yay I'm going to rush out of the studio and going to rush out of the studio and going to rush out of the studio and start making some social content with uh start making some social content with uh start making some social content with uh I'm going to tell my daughter tonight oh I'm going to tell my daughter tonight oh I'm going to tell my daughter tonight oh you got that jingle you got that jingle you got that jingle [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] jaw um I'm just gonna skip ahead to one jaw um I'm just gonna skip ahead to one jaw um I'm just gonna skip ahead to one more question while we're in the Coffee more question while we're in the Coffee more question while we're in the Coffee corner someone's asking for a new corner someone's asking for a new corner someone's asking for a new grinder uh they have a barata Encore grinder uh they have a barata Encore grinder uh they have a barata Encore what do I suggest the Baraza Encore dark what do I suggest the Baraza Encore dark what do I suggest the Baraza Encore dark roast Daddy tell us about Grinders I roast Daddy tell us about Grinders I roast Daddy tell us about Grinders I would say the um barata Encore is about1 would say the um barata Encore is about1 would say the um barata Encore is about1 $150 grinder depending on your currency $150 grinder depending on your currency $150 grinder depending on your currency and it's like it is the best entry into and it's like it is the best entry into and it's like it is the best entry into Burr Grinders which is a way to grind Burr Grinders which is a way to grind Burr Grinders which is a way to grind your coffee beans that's going to help your coffee beans that's going to help your coffee beans that's going to help you get to this place of brewing coffee you get to this place of brewing coffee you get to this place of brewing coffee that just is bright and acidic and sweet that just is bright and acidic and sweet that just is bright and acidic and sweet um it's it's it's the gateway drug for a um it's it's it's the gateway drug for a um it's it's it's the gateway drug for a lot of folks it's the entry point into a lot of folks it's the entry point into a lot of folks it's the entry point into a world of specialty coffee that brought world of specialty coffee that brought world of specialty coffee that brought to Encore I I had one for years um my to Encore I I had one for years um my to Encore I I had one for years um my dad has had one my brother's had one we dad has had one my brother's had one we dad has had one my brother's had one we have one here at the office everyone has have one here at the office everyone has have one here at the office everyone has one but at some point you you want to one but at some point you you want to one but at some point you you want to upgrade and so a marginal upgrade would upgrade and so a marginal upgrade would upgrade and so a marginal upgrade would be the fellow Opus but actually I would be the fellow Opus but actually I would be the fellow Opus but actually I would encourage you to take one more steps encourage you to take one more steps encourage you to take one more steps you're going to double the price um from you're going to double the price um from you're going to double the price um from The Encore to about 300 between 3 and The Encore to about 300 between 3 and The Encore to about 300 between 3 and $400 um and for those of you who are $400 um and for those of you who are $400 um and for those of you who are hearing me say $3 and $400 for a coffee hearing me say $3 and $400 for a coffee hearing me say $3 and $400 for a coffee grinder and and you're feeling feeling grinder and and you're feeling feeling grinder and and you're feeling feeling the the vomit rise from your chest just the the vomit rise from your chest just the the vomit rise from your chest just you can you can hit fast forward for 30 you can you can hit fast forward for 30 you can you can hit fast forward for 30 seconds here you'll be tell them how seconds here you'll be tell them how seconds here you'll be tell them how much you made me pay for a grinder here much you made me pay for a grinder here much you made me pay for a grinder here that made me vomit in my chest yeah that that made me vomit in my chest yeah that that made me vomit in my chest yeah that was like a $1,000 gr oh the way he was like a $1,000 gr oh the way he was like a $1,000 gr oh the way he proposed this like look this is the only

proposed this like look this is the only proposed this like look this is the only justifiable option you know what I did I justifiable option you know what I did I justifiable option you know what I did I actually used your framework I gave you actually used your framework I gave you actually used your framework I gave you three options no you didn't I did I gave three options no you didn't I did I gave three options no you didn't I did I gave you three options I gave you a cheaper you three options I gave you a cheaper you three options I gave you a cheaper one a more expensive one and I buried one a more expensive one and I buried one a more expensive one and I buried that one right in the middle middle anyways the anyways the anyways the uh you're a real sicko you know that the uh you're a real sicko you know that the uh you're a real sicko you know that the fellow Ed Brew grinder is what I would fellow Ed Brew grinder is what I would fellow Ed Brew grinder is what I would recommend it's the best filter coffee recommend it's the best filter coffee recommend it's the best filter coffee grinder uh that I've used for the home grinder uh that I've used for the home grinder uh that I've used for the home you buy it you won't want to upgrade you you buy it you won't want to upgrade you you buy it you won't want to upgrade you don't need to buy a$1 thousand Grinder don't need to buy a$1 thousand Grinder don't need to buy a$1 thousand Grinder like we oh yeah just wait uh that one is like we oh yeah just wait uh that one is like we oh yeah just wait uh that one is your way to go yikes oh my your way to go yikes oh my your way to go yikes oh my gosh you taught me well hey uh are the gosh you taught me well hey uh are the gosh you taught me well hey uh are the NCAA conference change UPS good for the NCAA conference change UPS good for the NCAA conference change UPS good for the kids we're kids we're kids we're Canadians we understand that this is Canadians we understand that this is Canadians we understand that this is your second biggest sport in your your second biggest sport in your your second biggest sport in your country college football we don't know country college football we don't know country college football we don't know anything about it yeah what I will say anything about it yeah what I will say anything about it yeah what I will say we're talking about football I thought we're talking about football I thought we're talking about football I thought we were talking about basketball uh all we were talking about basketball uh all we were talking about basketball uh all of NCAA but right now topical is of NCAA but right now topical is of NCAA but right now topical is football because it's college football football because it's college football football because it's college football season and you know the the buzz of the season and you know the the buzz of the season and you know the the buzz of the sports world is Colorado and head coach sports world is Colorado and head coach sports world is Colorado and head coach Deion Sanders his son who's the Deion Sanders his son who's the Deion Sanders his son who's the quarterback I heard reported in earnings quarterback I heard reported in earnings quarterback I heard reported in earnings cuz there's a specific there's another cuz there's a specific there's another cuz there's a specific there's another acronym it's like the it's NCI uu or acronym it's like the it's NCI uu or acronym it's like the it's NCI uu or something sorry I don't know it of money something sorry I don't know it of money something sorry I don't know it of money that they can earn nil and he's going to that they can earn nil and he's going to that they can earn nil and he's going to earn $6 million in endorsements and they earn $6 million in endorsements and they earn $6 million in endorsements and they said like that means he's earning what said like that means he's earning what said like that means he's earning what you make in the

you make in the you make in the pros like as a if he got drafted like pros like as a if he got drafted like pros like as a if he got drafted like he'd be making roughly that if he was a he'd be making roughly that if he was a he'd be making roughly that if he was a high draft pick if he was a low draft high draft pick if he was a low draft high draft pick if he was a low draft pick or if he wasn't like in a highly pick or if he wasn't like in a highly pick or if he wasn't like in a highly compensated position like running backs compensated position like running backs compensated position like running backs don't even make six million a year don't even make six million a year don't even make six million a year anymore so like as an amateur he's being anymore so like as an amateur he's being anymore so like as an amateur he's being compensated at the same level of the compensated at the same level of the compensated at the same level of the pros and that was interesting because pros and that was interesting because pros and that was interesting because what might the followup be from that what might the followup be from that what might the followup be from that that will have dramatic implications that will have dramatic implications that will have dramatic implications because what do people do get me out of because what do people do get me out of because what do people do get me out of college I got to get paid yeah now they college I got to get paid yeah now they college I got to get paid yeah now they don't have to okay what does that mean don't have to okay what does that mean don't have to okay what does that mean for the pros what does that also mean for the pros what does that also mean for the pros what does that also mean for the amateurs and also if Dion for the amateurs and also if Dion for the amateurs and also if Dion Sanders is bringing this much viewership Sanders is bringing this much viewership Sanders is bringing this much viewership this much attention and thus this much this much attention and thus this much this much attention and thus this much money and Prestige to that school are money and Prestige to that school are money and Prestige to that school are other not are when are other other not are when are other other not are when are other uh colleges going to start looking at uh colleges going to start looking at uh colleges going to start looking at like how do we get our own D on yeah and like how do we get our own D on yeah and like how do we get our own D on yeah and and and what might that mean for and and what might that mean for and and what might that mean for recruitment you know like even seeing recruitment you know like even seeing recruitment you know like even seeing like the old school way of recruiting like the old school way of recruiting like the old school way of recruiting players was like you're going to come players was like you're going to come players was like you're going to come here and I'm going to make you a man here and I'm going to make you a man here and I'm going to make you a man that's Nick Sabin or you know Coach K that's Nick Sabin or you know Coach K that's Nick Sabin or you know Coach K from years ago at Duke and now it's like from years ago at Duke and now it's like from years ago at Duke and now it's like no come here and like you will be one of no come here and like you will be one of no come here and like you will be one of the most famous athletes and that will the most famous athletes and that will the most famous athletes and that will directly lead to you getting paid now directly lead to you getting paid now directly lead to you getting paid now it's not about me preparing you for the it's not about me preparing you for the it's not about me preparing you for the man you're going to become so you can man you're going to become so you can man you're going to become so you can make money in the league it's come and make money in the league it's come and make money in the league it's come and get the bag now very interesting don't get the bag now very interesting don't get the bag now very interesting don't really have any firm thoughts I'm just really have any firm thoughts I'm just really have any firm thoughts I'm just kind of observing from afar fascinating kind of observing from afar fascinating kind of observing from afar fascinating stuff did you see the cleats that the stuff did you see the cleats that the stuff did you see the cleats that the Oregon Ducks wore this uh a few weeks Oregon Ducks wore this uh a few weeks Oregon Ducks wore this uh a few weeks ago what was it they change with the ago what was it they change with the ago what was it they change with the temperature of the player oh yeah that temperature of the player oh yeah that temperature of the player oh yeah that was so fun cuz their head coach when the was so fun cuz their head coach when the was so fun cuz their head coach when the viral clip was like Dion's 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viral clip was like Dion's all about viral clip was like Dion's all about clicks we're all about wins like you're clicks we're all about wins like you're clicks we're all about wins like you're wearing your 12th color combination wearing your 12th color combination wearing your 12th color combination Jersey of the year they literally CH Jersey of the year they literally CH Jersey of the year they literally CH it's a literal fashion show all right it's a literal fashion show all right it's a literal fashion show all right where do you want to go next uh what how where do you want to go next uh what how where do you want to go next uh what how much time we got here we got like yeah I much time we got here we got like yeah I much time we got here we got like yeah I think we can finish the remaining oh no God God okay uh yeah just keep going in order okay uh yeah just keep going in order okay uh yeah just keep going in order okay what's a good response to members okay what's a good response to members okay what's a good response to members not buying into the importance of social not buying into the importance of social not buying into the importance of social media in Ministry do you think we would media in Ministry do you think we would media in Ministry do you think we would see more engagement by getting them see more engagement by getting them see more engagement by getting them involved in the content creation process involved in the content creation process involved in the content creation process to encourage tapping into social media to encourage tapping into social media to encourage tapping into social media yeah so just went back to the money yeah so just went back to the money yeah so just went back to the money meaning and membership finding the meaning and membership finding the meaning and membership finding the motivation the three M of motivation motivation the three M of motivation motivation the three M of motivation they didn't realize I had motivation as they didn't realize I had motivation as they didn't realize I had motivation as of motivation was right there yeah money of motivation was right there yeah money of motivation was right there yeah money meaning membership tap into that I think meaning membership tap into that I think meaning membership tap into that I think what they're describing here is like the what they're describing here is like the what they're describing here is like the membership or the meaning side it's like membership or the meaning side it's like membership or the meaning side it's like okay if we were all doing this then okay if we were all doing this then okay if we were all doing this then you'd want to be part of it or if they you'd want to be part of it or if they you'd want to be part of it or if they understood the value of social then they understood the value of social then they understood the value of social then they would ascribe meaning to the ministry would ascribe meaning to the ministry would ascribe meaning to the ministry yeah can we get Ministry in there yeah can we get Ministry in there yeah can we get Ministry in there somewhere it might as well because money somewhere it might as well because money somewhere it might as well because money is not going to apply to to many like it is not going to apply to to many like it is not going to apply to to many like it applies to motivation as a principle but applies to motivation as a principle but applies to motivation as a principle but it's not going to apply very much to it's not going to apply very much to it's not going to apply very much to church I love how I said go they're church I love how I said go they're church I love how I said go they're really tapping into the other two here really tapping into the other two here really tapping into the other two here again there's the only two that can't again there's the only two that can't again there's the only two that can't tap into you idiot there's no money okay tap into you idiot there's no money okay tap into you idiot there's no money okay after implementing your strategies for after implementing your strategies for after implementing your strategies for our social sermons we've had some great our social sermons we've had some great our social sermons we've had some great results before our highest watch video results before our highest watch video results before our highest watch video on Instagram was around 3,000 views now on Instagram was around 3,000 views now on Instagram was around 3,000 views now we've had 10 or more videos that have we've had 10 or more videos that have we've had 10 or more videos that have hit 14,000 plus one went to

hit 14,000 plus one went to hit 14,000 plus one went to 23,000 views and 1,000 likes for 23,000 views and 1,000 likes for 23,000 views and 1,000 likes for whatever reason on Facebook we've had whatever reason on Facebook we've had whatever reason on Facebook we've had very mediocre results I think that out very mediocre results I think that out very mediocre results I think that out of those same videos we've only had one of those same videos we've only had one of those same videos we've only had one that went up to 3,000 the rest hover that went up to 3,000 the rest hover that went up to 3,000 the rest hover around 1,000 do you know know why that around 1,000 do you know know why that around 1,000 do you know know why that might be happening I know you talk about might be happening I know you talk about might be happening I know you talk about Facebook going off for churches but Facebook going off for churches but Facebook going off for churches but that's not been the case for us and I that's not been the case for us and I that's not been the case for us and I wonder if we're doing something wrong no wonder if we're doing something wrong no wonder if we're doing something wrong no you're not doing something wrong this you're not doing something wrong this you're not doing something wrong this gets to that earlier response like I I gets to that earlier response like I I gets to that earlier response like I I can never tell broadly speaking for a can never tell broadly speaking for a can never tell broadly speaking for a while there and this might still be true while there and this might still be true while there and this might still be true churches were seeing kind of churches were seeing kind of churches were seeing kind of disproportionate Returns on Facebook disproportionate Returns on Facebook disproportionate Returns on Facebook reals why cuz most are just skew older reals why cuz most are just skew older reals why cuz most are just skew older so they existing audiences on Facebook so they existing audiences on Facebook so they existing audiences on Facebook and like it's been the oldest platform and like it's been the oldest platform and like it's been the oldest platform so like they've had the longest to build so like they've had the longest to build so like they've had the longest to build said audience so like it kind of makes said audience so like it kind of makes said audience so like it kind of makes sense in that respect if you're a newer sense in that respect if you're a newer sense in that respect if you're a newer Church or who knows why like this is the Church or who knows why like this is the Church or who knows why like this is the one thing where I don't even really feel one thing where I don't even really feel one thing where I don't even really feel the need to know why you make a single the need to know why you make a single the need to know why you make a single post it can go to all four platforms add post it can go to all four platforms add post it can go to all four platforms add X make it a fifth platform just see what X make it a fifth platform just see what X make it a fifth platform just see what happens no extra work and there's no happens no extra work and there's no happens no extra work and there's no downside you're not using these downside you're not using these downside you're not using these Platforms in ways they're not meant to Platforms in ways they're not meant to Platforms in ways they're not meant to be used you're using them in the ways be used you're using them in the ways be used you're using them in the ways that the platform owners and Runners are that the platform owners and Runners are that the platform owners and Runners are desperately asking you to use them yeah desperately asking you to use them yeah desperately asking you to use them yeah so just hey it's fun to observe and then so just hey it's fun to observe and then so just hey it's fun to observe and then you'll get some data about your Church's you'll get some data about your Church's you'll get some data about your Church's audience and your content reach here and audience and your content reach here and audience and your content reach here and now and then you can make some decisions now and then you can make some decisions now and then you can make some decisions based on that but if one platform like based on that but if one platform like based on that but if one platform like forget one platform not performing as forget one platform not performing as forget one platform not performing as well as the others you can have a post well as the others you can have a post well as the others you can have a post that does great on one platform and that does great on one platform and that does great on one platform and modestly on another so you know it's a modestly on another so you know it's a modestly on another so you know it's a winning piece of content and it didn't winning piece of content and it didn't winning piece of content and it didn't perform equally who knows why yeah sure perform equally who knows why yeah sure perform equally who knows why yeah sure yeah and like you said the risk the risk yeah and like you said the risk the risk yeah and like you said the risk the risk is virtually nil like if you post it and is virtually nil like if you post it and is virtually nil like if you post it and it doesn't go off you don't get 24 plus

it doesn't go off you don't get 24 plus it doesn't go off you don't get 24 plus thousand views you get a thousand well thousand views you get a thousand well thousand views you get a thousand well you've served your existing audience and you've served your existing audience and you've served your existing audience and that's that's good enough well recently that's that's good enough well recently that's that's good enough well recently we rolled over into what is undeniably we rolled over into what is undeniably we rolled over into what is undeniably the best season praise God and uh so the the best season praise God and uh so the the best season praise God and uh so the popular question comes in um what got popular question comes in um what got popular question comes in um what got you into collecting fragrances at all you into collecting fragrances at all you into collecting fragrances at all and what's the move for Autumn and what's the move for Autumn and what's the move for Autumn fragrances so I think what really fragrances so I think what really fragrances so I think what really clicked to me was when I realized like clicked to me was when I realized like clicked to me was when I realized like the memories that get linked with smells the memories that get linked with smells the memories that get linked with smells and the more you do this the more and the more you do this the more and the more you do this the more intoxicating it becomes so I moved over intoxicating it becomes so I moved over intoxicating it becomes so I moved over into my Autumn fragrances Say Goodbye into my Autumn fragrances Say Goodbye into my Autumn fragrances Say Goodbye Summer and I I just been waiting and I Summer and I I just been waiting and I Summer and I I just been waiting and I wait until the the calendar actually wait until the the calendar actually wait until the the calendar actually turns over because I need not because turns over because I need not because turns over because I need not because like there aren't days where it's cooler like there aren't days where it's cooler like there aren't days where it's cooler before or days that are warmer after I before or days that are warmer after I before or days that are warmer after I can go back but I never go forward can go back but I never go forward can go back but I never go forward because like I just want to know I I because like I just want to know I I because like I just want to know I I waited for it I pop off the cap and you waited for it I pop off the cap and you waited for it I pop off the cap and you give a couple sprays and it's just give a couple sprays and it's just give a couple sprays and it's just like it's emotional it's intoxicating like it's emotional it's intoxicating like it's emotional it's intoxicating there's no other way of explaining it there's no other way of explaining it there's no other way of explaining it because it's memories of places you've because it's memories of places you've because it's memories of places you've been and experiences that you've had in been and experiences that you've had in been and experiences that you've had in this Essence that can be experienced this Essence that can be experienced this Essence that can be experienced through one of the senses of of the through one of the senses of of the through one of the senses of of the human body it's it's amazing so that's human body it's it's amazing so that's human body it's it's amazing so that's what I think really clicked for me what what I think really clicked for me what what I think really clicked for me what do we wearing this fall what's the move do we wearing this fall what's the move do we wearing this fall what's the move I got Creed Viking is kind of like this I got Creed Viking is kind of like this I got Creed Viking is kind of like this Old Spice mint pink pepper Pink Pepper Old Spice mint pink pepper Pink Pepper Old Spice mint pink pepper Pink Pepper one of my favorite uh spices in the one of my favorite uh spices in the one of my favorite uh spices in the kitchen cabinet by the way it's a great kitchen cabinet by the way it's a great kitchen cabinet by the way it's a great one yeah uh Creed Aven when wearing one yeah uh Creed Aven when wearing one yeah uh Creed Aven when wearing today uh some say the goat you know today uh some say the goat you know today uh some say the goat you know pineapple Smoky Birch walked by Rock pineapple Smoky Birch walked by Rock pineapple Smoky Birch walked by Rock sand was like I like that one and I was sand was like I like that one and I was sand was like I like that one and I was like it's cuz it's the goat uh Creed

like it's cuz it's the goat uh Creed like it's cuz it's the goat uh Creed original sand Hall this one I don't even original sand Hall this one I don't even original sand Hall this one I don't even know if I like this one but I keep know if I like this one but I keep know if I like this one but I keep wearing it because it reminds me of like wearing it because it reminds me of like wearing it because it reminds me of like times it's it's kind of like it's like times it's it's kind of like it's like times it's it's kind of like it's like creamy Sandalwood it's kind of like it s creamy Sandalwood it's kind of like it s creamy Sandalwood it's kind of like it s it smells like a little like older it smells like a little like older it smells like a little like older mature and every year I'm like I don't mature and every year I'm like I don't mature and every year I'm like I don't know if I'm going to keep it but it has know if I'm going to keep it but it has know if I'm going to keep it but it has the bottle design is amazing beautiful the bottle design is amazing beautiful the bottle design is amazing beautiful glass glass glass gradient uh Tom Ford ombre leather this gradient uh Tom Ford ombre leather this gradient uh Tom Ford ombre leather this is just sweet leather feels like you is just sweet leather feels like you is just sweet leather feels like you just feel like this is masculinity this just feel like this is masculinity this just feel like this is masculinity this is like I'm him I'm Different uh Armani is like I'm him I'm Different uh Armani is like I'm him I'm Different uh Armani stronger with you absolutely this is stronger with you absolutely this is stronger with you absolutely this is like a silky smooth vanilla with some like a silky smooth vanilla with some like a silky smooth vanilla with some rum this is for when it gets a little rum this is for when it gets a little rum this is for when it gets a little chillier this is deeper into autn I'm chillier this is deeper into autn I'm chillier this is deeper into autn I'm not pulling this out now right okay uh not pulling this out now right okay uh not pulling this out now right okay uh params dearle hobon this is this is the params dearle hobon this is this is the params dearle hobon this is this is the fragrance I'm going to be taking with me fragrance I'm going to be taking with me fragrance I'm going to be taking with me to Vermont this is a newer fragrance I to Vermont this is a newer fragrance I to Vermont this is a newer fragrance I got it at the boutique in Paris and it's got it at the boutique in Paris and it's got it at the boutique in Paris and it's kind of like small town Fall Fair kind of like small town Fall Fair kind of like small town Fall Fair packaged into a bottle okay it's it's packaged into a bottle okay it's it's packaged into a bottle okay it's it's caramel apples it's got woody notes but caramel apples it's got woody notes but caramel apples it's got woody notes but I haven't worn it on a trip yet so I I haven't worn it on a trip yet so I I haven't worn it on a trip yet so I need to link it to ver I got to link it need to link it to ver I got to link it need to link it to ver I got to link it to the Fall Foliage in Vermont this it's to the Fall Foliage in Vermont this it's to the Fall Foliage in Vermont this it's just like you're going to have such a just like you're going to have such a just like you're going to have such a great drive it's good I'm so excited for great drive it's good I'm so excited for great drive it's good I'm so excited for the Drive M it's going to be great and the Drive M it's going to be great and the Drive M it's going to be great and then uh Creed spice and wood as the then uh Creed spice and wood as the then uh Creed spice and wood as the final one just sophistication but still final one just sophistication but still final one just sophistication but still nice and uh you know what is it what is nice and uh you know what is it what is nice and uh you know what is it what is it about Creed I don't know it's kind of it about Creed I don't know it's kind of it about Creed I don't know it's kind of basic they're like kind of like the one basic they're like kind of like the one basic they're like kind of like the one that people are like they can't be that that people are like they can't be that that people are like they can't be that good they don't last that long and I I I good they don't last that long and I I I good they don't last that long and I I I you know what like I have tried the more you know what like I have tried the more you know what like I have tried the more prestigious houses the ones that cost

prestigious houses the ones that cost prestigious houses the ones that cost more the ones that like the Insiders the more the ones that like the Insiders the more the ones that like the Insiders the enthusiasts would be like this is the enthusiasts would be like this is the enthusiasts would be like this is the real good stuff and you know what my real good stuff and you know what my real good stuff and you know what my missional values for fragrances are masculine your missional Valu you spent masculine your missional Valu you spent 10 minutes on like coffee acidity you 10 minutes on like coffee acidity you 10 minutes on like coffee acidity you said lactic like you were like you were said lactic like you were like you were said lactic like you were like you were like milky lactic feel in your mouth you like milky lactic feel in your mouth you like milky lactic feel in your mouth you sicko how dare you align with the sicko how dare you align with the sicko how dare you align with the mission get on board with the mission get on board with the mission get on board with the mission I masculine yeah approachable mission I masculine yeah approachable mission I masculine yeah approachable and age appropriate for me so I don't and age appropriate for me so I don't and age appropriate for me so I don't like the stuff that smells older I don't like the stuff that smells older I don't like the stuff that smells older I don't want it to be too complex the problem is want it to be too complex the problem is want it to be too complex the problem is you get into fragrances and suddenly you get into fragrances and suddenly you get into fragrances and suddenly you're wearing like oud mixed with like you're wearing like oud mixed with like you're wearing like oud mixed with like you know like Funk and it's like well you know like Funk and it's like well you know like Funk and it's like well technically this is a superior technically this is a superior technically this is a superior accomplishment it's like yeah but like accomplishment it's like yeah but like accomplishment it's like yeah but like everyone hates it m so and then also everyone hates it m so and then also everyone hates it m so and then also masculine I do have some that are more masculine I do have some that are more masculine I do have some that are more feminine leaning um but yeah that so feminine leaning um but yeah that so feminine leaning um but yeah that so that Creed they just keep hitting all that Creed they just keep hitting all that Creed they just keep hitting all those notes and then I want it to also those notes and then I want it to also those notes and then I want it to also be longlasting and a lot of the Creed be longlasting and a lot of the Creed be longlasting and a lot of the Creed stuff isn't long lasting I have a bunch stuff isn't long lasting I have a bunch stuff isn't long lasting I have a bunch of the Creed that's not in the of the Creed that's not in the of the Creed that's not in the fragrances I love but they don't last fragrances I love but they don't last fragrances I love but they don't last yeah so I can't keep them around and now yeah so I can't keep them around and now yeah so I can't keep them around and now now youve buil history with these it's now youve buil history with these it's now youve buil history with these it's like that's the thing you know like if like that's the thing you know like if like that's the thing you know like if these fragrances remind you of fall like these fragrances remind you of fall like these fragrances remind you of fall like next year to do Beck and fall you have next year to do Beck and fall you have next year to do Beck and fall you have to you have to play the hits yeah you to you have to play the hits yeah you to you have to play the hits yeah you really do Brady will you ever let your really do Brady will you ever let your really do Brady will you ever let your hair grow long and Alex will you ever hair grow long and Alex will you ever hair grow long and Alex will you ever cut your hair short no uh no I have had cut your hair short no uh no I have had cut your hair short no uh no I have had I can count them only on F like on one

I can count them only on F like on one I can count them only on F like on one hand like like less than five but I have hand like like less than five but I have hand like like less than five but I have had had had nightmares about cutting my hair not nightmares about cutting my hair not nightmares about cutting my hair not because like I don't think I could pull because like I don't think I could pull because like I don't think I could pull off short hair again it's just I know off short hair again it's just I know off short hair again it's just I know that I would have regret and I would not that I would have regret and I would not that I would have regret and I would not ever grow my hair out again what no I ever grow my hair out again what no I ever grow my hair out again what no I grew it out when I was when I was 19 I grew it out when I was when I was 19 I grew it out when I was when I was 19 I was in Uganda I looked like you I have was in Uganda I looked like you I have was in Uganda I looked like you I have that awkward middle stage I was in that awkward middle stage I was in that awkward middle stage I was in Africa I looked like a fool and I could Africa I looked like a fool and I could Africa I looked like a fool and I could do it there yeah um I'm grown I'm on a do it there yeah um I'm grown I'm on a do it there yeah um I'm grown I'm on a podcast I couldn't do that here why podcast I couldn't do that here why podcast I couldn't do that here why could you look like a fool in Africa and could you look like a fool in Africa and could you look like a fool in Africa and not in North America cuz I wasn't not in North America cuz I wasn't not in North America cuz I wasn't I was backpacking I looked borderline I was backpacking I looked borderline I was backpacking I looked borderline homeless you know like yeah oh so it's homeless you know like yeah oh so it's homeless you know like yeah oh so it's because of you yeah kind of sounded because of you yeah kind of sounded because of you yeah kind of sounded racist yeah no no there no it's just racist yeah no no there no it's just racist yeah no no there no it's just like I had no shame I didn't know anyone like I had no shame I didn't know anyone like I had no shame I didn't know anyone um yeah that age and not knowing one um yeah that age and not knowing one um yeah that age and not knowing one anyone so when I moved across the anyone so when I moved across the anyone so when I moved across the country I changed my name right right country I changed my name right right country I changed my name right right like I was Cole sheerer and you would like I was Cole sheerer and you would like I was Cole sheerer and you would know this because it's engraved in the know this because it's engraved in the know this because it's engraved in the opening pages of the Franklin book wow opening pages of the Franklin book wow opening pages of the Franklin book wow Cole sheer and Rachel sheer me and my Cole sheer and Rachel sheer me and my Cole sheer and Rachel sheer me and my sister I was Cole She for 18 years sister I was Cole She for 18 years sister I was Cole She for 18 years move out of the house move across the move out of the house move across the move out of the house move across the country why am I going by my middle name country why am I going by my middle name country why am I going by my middle name this family tradition is a joke sorry this family tradition is a joke sorry this family tradition is a joke sorry Dad sorry Kevin your real name's Chris Dad sorry Kevin your real name's Chris Dad sorry Kevin your real name's Chris we don't we don't we don't know I'm going by my first name Brady know I'm going by my first name Brady know I'm going by my first name Brady now the banks will actually give me an now the banks will actually give me an now the banks will actually give me an account go to the two final questions account go to the two final questions account go to the two final questions okay if you are a social media team of okay if you are a social media team of okay if you are a social media team of one no the two final questions two final one no the two final questions two final one no the two final questions two final oh all the way down there okay we got we oh all the way down there okay we got we oh all the way down there okay we got we were running low I know do you do were running low I know do you do were running low I know do you do fantasy football do you I do do you yeah

fantasy football do you I do do you yeah fantasy football do you I do do you yeah so so so historically no this is new for us but historically no this is new for us but historically no this is new for us but we have a fantasy football league now in we have a fantasy football league now in we have a fantasy football league now in the office it's funny cuz we're both the office it's funny cuz we're both the office it's funny cuz we're both Avid sports fans crazy like like sports Avid sports fans crazy like like sports Avid sports fans crazy like like sports in general we have our preferred sport in general we have our preferred sport in general we have our preferred sport Sports of discipline like basketball for Sports of discipline like basketball for Sports of discipline like basketball for you and hockey for me but Avid sports you and hockey for me but Avid sports you and hockey for me but Avid sports fans and never been a part of fantasy fans and never been a part of fantasy fans and never been a part of fantasy before no this is my first year um I've before no this is my first year um I've before no this is my first year um I've got the app on my phone what what am I got the app on my phone what what am I got the app on my phone what what am I doing yeah yeah and you know there's doing yeah yeah and you know there's doing yeah yeah and you know there's only eight people in the league every only eight people in the league every only eight people in the league every one of my best friends including my half one of my best friends including my half one of my best friends including my half right yeah all three and a half of us right yeah all three and a half of us right yeah all three and a half of us are there and uh and then shouts to the are there and uh and then shouts to the are there and uh and then shouts to the other other other ones and uh it's been really fun and ones and uh it's been really fun and ones and uh it's been really fun and there are cash prizes we're trying to there are cash prizes we're trying to there are cash prizes we're trying to motivate everyone get some healthy motivate everyone get some healthy motivate everyone get some healthy competition money yeah money yes yeah competition money yeah money yes yeah competition money yeah money yes yeah that's all it is because uh there's no that's all it is because uh there's no that's all it is because uh there's no meaning in it for most people here and I meaning in it for most people here and I meaning in it for most people here and I guess you could say there could be an guess you could say there could be an guess you could say there could be an element of membership like wanting to be element of membership like wanting to be element of membership like wanting to be because theice if one person wasn't in because theice if one person wasn't in because theice if one person wasn't in it yeah yeah and but it's mostly the it yeah yeah and but it's mostly the it yeah yeah and but it's mostly the money and meaning is there for like a money and meaning is there for like a money and meaning is there for like a goes at like sports we're like oh I goes at like sports we're like oh I goes at like sports we're like oh I value this thing okay so we're doing the value this thing okay so we're doing the value this thing okay so we're doing the draft and one of our draft and one of our draft and one of our employees he has the first pick we still employees he has the first pick we still employees he has the first pick we still don't know what he did we're looking don't know what he did we're looking don't know what he did we're looking we're like where where is he his pick is we're like where where is he his pick is we're like where where is he his pick is coming up he takes his laptop and he coming up he takes his laptop and he coming up he takes his laptop and he goes into what we call the box of Shame goes into what we call the box of Shame goes into what we call the box of Shame the box of Silence box of Silence I was the box of Silence box of Silence I was the box of Silence box of Silence I was thinking the I was thinking the cone of thinking the I was thinking the cone of thinking the I was thinking the cone of shame now it's the box of Shame for what shame now it's the box of Shame for what shame now it's the box of Shame for what he did in there so the box of silence is he did in there so the box of silence is he did in there so the box of silence is where we take customer phone calls it's where we take customer phone calls it's where we take customer phone calls it's literally like a phone booth imagine a literally like a phone booth imagine a literally like a phone booth imagine a phone booth inside our office except phone booth inside our office except phone booth inside our office except like a minimalist modern phone booth and

like a minimalist modern phone booth and like a minimalist modern phone booth and you it's like soundproof soundproof yeah you it's like soundproof soundproof yeah you it's like soundproof soundproof yeah but we can tell he's on a phone call but we can tell he's on a phone call but we can tell he's on a phone call he's got his laptop up it's got It's a a he's got his laptop up it's got It's a a he's got his laptop up it's got It's a a window so we can see what's going on window so we can see what's going on window so we can see what's going on he's on his he's on his he's on his phone and the time is ticking down we're phone and the time is ticking down we're phone and the time is ticking down we're like where is he and he's in there like where is he and he's in there like where is he and he's in there Consulting with we still don't know who Consulting with we still don't know who Consulting with we still don't know who our theory is he paid for a fantasy our theory is he paid for a fantasy our theory is he paid for a fantasy football like expert consultant to help football like expert consultant to help football like expert consultant to help him with his draft like he probably paid him with his draft like he probably paid him with his draft like he probably paid $200 to be like I hired this expert let $200 to be like I hired this expert let $200 to be like I hired this expert let me tell you those picks W worth the me tell you those picks W worth the me tell you those picks W worth the price not working out too well for him price not working out too well for him price not working out too well for him so lots of fun so yeah we're doing so lots of fun so yeah we're doing so lots of fun so yeah we're doing fantasy football we're trying yeah yeah fantasy football we're trying yeah yeah fantasy football we're trying yeah yeah $500 to the winner Yahoo makes it pretty $500 to the winner Yahoo makes it pretty $500 to the winner Yahoo makes it pretty easy I'm not going to lie yeah like easy I'm not going to lie yeah like easy I'm not going to lie yeah like makes it easy for you if you want to get makes it easy for you if you want to get makes it easy for you if you want to get invested like if you want to learn but invested like if you want to learn but invested like if you want to learn but also for folks in our office who uh also for folks in our office who uh also for folks in our office who uh don't find any meaning in it and just don't find any meaning in it and just don't find any meaning in it and just just want to pick their players like just want to pick their players like just want to pick their players like rockan she picked the football players rockan she picked the football players rockan she picked the football players by um physical appearance and just wants by um physical appearance and just wants by um physical appearance and just wants to Taylor to let um let Yahoo uh start to Taylor to let um let Yahoo uh start to Taylor to let um let Yahoo uh start an active roster there you go although I an active roster there you go although I an active roster there you go although I also picked Kelsey did you yeah also picked Kelsey did you yeah also picked Kelsey did you yeah okay um okay final question on the show okay um okay final question on the show okay um okay final question on the show real quick I don't understand this real quick I don't understand this real quick I don't understand this question sock sock sho shoe or sock shoe question sock sock sho shoe or sock shoe question sock sock sho shoe or sock shoe sock shoe it's like what order are you sock shoe it's like what order are you sock shoe it's like what order are you putting them on no I understand the putting them on no I understand the putting them on no I understand the question I don't understand how anyone question I don't understand how anyone question I don't understand how anyone could do anything other than sock sock could do anything other than sock sock could do anything other than sock sock sho shoe that's sho shoe that's sho shoe that's correct also where are you putting on correct also where are you putting on correct also where are you putting on your socks I put up I put my socks up in your socks I put up I put my socks up in your socks I put up I put my socks up in my bedroom yeah they're on way before my bedroom yeah they're on way before my bedroom yeah they're on way before the shoes right Americans they're always the shoes right Americans they're always the shoes right Americans they're always wearing shoes inside that's true they wearing shoes inside that's true they wearing shoes inside that's true they probably keep their shoes in their room

probably keep their shoes in their room probably keep their shoes in their room imagine like they're like oh my goodness imagine like they're like oh my goodness imagine like they're like oh my goodness just socks just out there Raw on the just socks just out there Raw on the just socks just out there Raw on the floor no that's what socks are for your floor no that's what socks are for your floor no that's what socks are for your feet are feet are feet are raw and your shoes are dirty you're real raw and your shoes are dirty you're real raw and your shoes are dirty you're real sickos real sickos real sickos real sickos thanks for the questions please sickos thanks for the questions please sickos thanks for the questions please keep sending them in bro Church tools keep sending them in bro Church tools keep sending them in bro Church tools thanks as always for your time attention thanks as always for your time attention thanks as always for your time attention and Trust we'll talk to you next week and Trust we'll talk to you next week and Trust we'll talk to you next week why do we procreate why do we do any of why do we procreate why do we do any of why do we procreate why do we do any of this when the when the kids are sick I this when the when the kids are sick I this when the when the kids are sick I don't even know how you are I can't I don't even know how you are I can't I don't even know how you are I can't I can't do it I was not I was not prepared can't do it I was not I was not prepared can't do it I was not I was not prepared for that like there's there's so many for that like there's there's so many for that like there's there's so many facets of parenting but the way that a facets of parenting but the way that a facets of parenting but the way that a sick child sick child sick child disrupts your world I wasn't prepared disrupts your world I wasn't prepared disrupts your world I wasn't prepared for that yeah