Top Church Podcasting Gear for 2026

It used to be pastors just uploading It used to be pastors just uploading their sermon audio to iTunes. Nowadays, their sermon audio to iTunes. Nowadays, their sermon audio to iTunes. Nowadays, there are interview shows, testimony there are interview shows, testimony there are interview shows, testimony shows, Q&As's, leadership content, you shows, Q&As's, leadership content, you shows, Q&As's, leadership content, you name it. So, maybe that's something name it. So, maybe that's something name it. So, maybe that's something you're exploring for your church. Today, you're exploring for your church. Today, you're exploring for your church. Today, we're sharing our recommended gear for we're sharing our recommended gear for we're sharing our recommended gear for church podcasts in 2026 from two church podcasts in 2026 from two church podcasts in 2026 from two podcasters that launched a show that podcasters that launched a show that podcasters that launched a show that dates all the way back to 2014. [music] dates all the way back to 2014. [music] dates all the way back to 2014. [music] We'll cover microphones, interfaces, We'll cover microphones, interfaces, We'll cover microphones, interfaces, accessories, and we'll give you options accessories, and we'll give you options accessories, and we'll give you options at every budget level. [music] Let's at every budget level. [music] Let's at every budget level. [music] Let's dive in. dive in. dive in. >> Well, hey there and welcome to the >> Well, hey there and welcome to the >> Well, hey there and welcome to the ProChurch Tool Show. We're here to help ProChurch Tool Show. We're here to help ProChurch Tool Show. We're here to help you and your church navigate the biggest you and your church navigate the biggest you and your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years. I'm communication shift in 500 years. I'm communication shift in 500 years. I'm Brandon Sheerer, your host, joined as Brandon Sheerer, your host, joined as Brandon Sheerer, your host, joined as always by my co-host. We call him pastor always by my co-host. We call him pastor always by my co-host. We call him pastor podcast. It's Alexander Mills. podcast. It's Alexander Mills. podcast. It's Alexander Mills. >> Hello. Hello. >> Hello. Hello. >> Hello. Hello. >> Now, what we're not going to talk about >> Now, what we're not going to talk about >> Now, what we're not going to talk about on this episode are podcast studios. on this episode are podcast studios. on this episode are podcast studios. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> we're talking about gear. If you want to >> we're talking about gear. If you want to >> we're talking about gear. If you want to see a studio explored on the Brady Sher see a studio explored on the Brady Sher see a studio explored on the Brady Sher YouTube channel, last year we did a tour YouTube channel, last year we did a tour YouTube channel, last year we did a tour of our church's podcast studio of our church's podcast studio of our church's podcast studio >> and how we created that in a very small >> and how we created that in a very small >> and how we created that in a very small room. We'll have it linked in the room. We'll have it linked in the room. We'll have it linked in the description. You can go check that out. description. You can go check that out. description. You can go check that out. >> That's a great video. >> That's a great video. >> That's a great video. >> I think so. >> I think so. >> I think so. >> Yeah. Today, let's make an equally great >> Yeah. Today, let's make an equally great >> Yeah. Today, let's make an equally great video talking about all the gear video talking about all the gear video talking about all the gear options. All right, we're going to break options. All right, we're going to break options. All right, we're going to break this down into categories. We're talking this down into categories. We're talking this down into categories. We're talking about microphones. Then we'll touch on about microphones. Then we'll touch on about microphones. Then we'll touch on interfaces and recorders. Then we'll hit interfaces and recorders. Then we'll hit interfaces and recorders. Then we'll hit on headphones. We're then going to talk on headphones. We're then going to talk on headphones. We're then going to talk about accessories, finally software, and about accessories, finally software, and about accessories, finally software, and then we'll do a bunch of full setups, then we'll do a bunch of full setups, then we'll do a bunch of full setups, okay, okay, okay, >> at different price points where we're >> at different price points where we're >> at different price points where we're like, "Okay, you need all these things.

like, "Okay, you need all these things. like, "Okay, you need all these things. Get this, this, and this. If you want to Get this, this, and this. If you want to Get this, this, and this. If you want to spend this, this, this, and this if you spend this, this, this, and this if you spend this, this, this, and this if you want to spend this." want to spend this." want to spend this." >> Questions? No, we've talked about church >> Questions? No, we've talked about church >> Questions? No, we've talked about church podcasts a few times over the years podcasts a few times over the years podcasts a few times over the years about why to do a church podcast, if you about why to do a church podcast, if you about why to do a church podcast, if you should do a church podcast. We're should do a church podcast. We're should do a church podcast. We're talking content now, how you should do a talking content now, how you should do a talking content now, how you should do a church podcast. There's all sorts of church podcast. There's all sorts of church podcast. There's all sorts of like really creative ideas about what like really creative ideas about what like really creative ideas about what your church should be podcasting about your church should be podcasting about your church should be podcasting about beyond just reposting the Sunday sermon. beyond just reposting the Sunday sermon. beyond just reposting the Sunday sermon. Um, but you're going to need like Um, but you're going to need like Um, but you're going to need like podcasts. I mean, there's video podcasts podcasts. I mean, there's video podcasts podcasts. I mean, there's video podcasts now, but like by nature, it's it's an now, but like by nature, it's it's an now, but like by nature, it's it's an audio experience and it's got to sound audio experience and it's got to sound audio experience and it's got to sound great for people to stick around from if great for people to stick around from if great for people to stick around from if you get their attention and get them to you get their attention and get them to you get their attention and get them to click on your show. It's got to sound click on your show. It's got to sound click on your show. It's got to sound you have to present it well for them to you have to present it well for them to you have to present it well for them to be able to stick around and then be able to stick around and then be able to stick around and then hopefully show up again next week. So, hopefully show up again next week. So, hopefully show up again next week. So, the gear is going to do a lot of heavy the gear is going to do a lot of heavy the gear is going to do a lot of heavy lifting there. lifting there. lifting there. >> Podcasts are on Netflix now. Did you >> Podcasts are on Netflix now. Did you >> Podcasts are on Netflix now. Did you know that? know that? know that? >> I noticed that. >> I noticed that. >> I noticed that. >> Yeah. So, podcast >> Yeah. So, podcast >> Yeah. So, podcast >> I'll never watch a a podcast on Netflix, >> I'll never watch a a podcast on Netflix, >> I'll never watch a a podcast on Netflix, but they're there. but they're there. but they're there. >> Famous last words. [laughter] >> Famous last words. [laughter] >> Famous last words. [laughter] Famous last words. Yeah, it's true. Famous last words. Yeah, it's true. Famous last words. Yeah, it's true. We're We're listening people. Yeah. We're We're listening people. Yeah. We're We're listening people. Yeah. >> I I don't really watch that many things. >> I I don't really watch that many things. >> I I don't really watch that many things. >> I did watch that guy climb that big >> I did watch that guy climb that big >> I did watch that guy climb that big building on Netflix last.

building on Netflix last. building on Netflix last. >> Yeah. That was crazy. >> Yeah. That was crazy. >> Yeah. That was crazy. >> Seems like that was like the end of >> Seems like that was like the end of >> Seems like that was like the end of Human Civilization. Like we've reached a Human Civilization. Like we've reached a Human Civilization. Like we've reached a point where point where point where >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We're just This is dark. >> We're just This is dark. >> We're just This is dark. >> You know, I know you love Black Mirror. >> You know, I know you love Black Mirror. >> You know, I know you love Black Mirror. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And then you you always say, "Oh, this >> And then you you always say, "Oh, this >> And then you you always say, "Oh, this is just like a Black Mirror, but here is just like a Black Mirror, but here is just like a Black Mirror, but here you are participating." you are participating." you are participating." >> Yeah. He could have fallen off. What are >> Yeah. He could have fallen off. What are >> Yeah. He could have fallen off. What are the ch like what what was the the ch like what what was the the ch like what what was the likelihood? Apparently, thanks to my likelihood? Apparently, thanks to my likelihood? Apparently, thanks to my Twitter feeds, climbers are like, "Yes, Twitter feeds, climbers are like, "Yes, Twitter feeds, climbers are like, "Yes, this was impressive, but risk for him this was impressive, but risk for him this was impressive, but risk for him was so so so low." Like, it was a was so so so low." Like, it was a was so so so low." Like, it was a physical feat, but as far as like physical feat, but as far as like physical feat, but as far as like climbing difficulty, pretty low. His his climbing difficulty, pretty low. His his climbing difficulty, pretty low. His his free solo on LCAP, there's a documentary free solo on LCAP, there's a documentary free solo on LCAP, there's a documentary about that famously called Free Solo. about that famously called Free Solo. about that famously called Free Solo. They're like, "You don't understand how They're like, "You don't understand how They're like, "You don't understand how much more impressive that was than much more impressive that was than much more impressive that was than this." this." this." >> Well, as we have been to LCAP, >> Well, as we have been to LCAP, >> Well, as we have been to LCAP, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I'm going to say that is more [laughter] >> I'm going to say that is more [laughter] >> I'm going to say that is more [laughter] impressive. All right, enough microphone impressive. All right, enough microphone impressive. All right, enough microphone recommendations. Let's start with number recommendations. Let's start with number recommendations. Let's start with number one, the industry standard, one, the industry standard, one, the industry standard, >> the Sure SM7B. The microphones that we >> the Sure SM7B. The microphones that we >> the Sure SM7B. The microphones that we are using right now. These are going to are using right now. These are going to are using right now. These are going to be roughly $400 each. This is, you know, be roughly $400 each. This is, you know, be roughly $400 each. This is, you know, probably the most famous podcast probably the most famous podcast probably the most famous podcast microphone and has been for a long while microphone and has been for a long while microphone and has been for a long while >> in the world. You know, uh, this is the >> in the world. You know, uh, this is the >> in the world. You know, uh, this is the mic that Joe Rogan uses. Like, these are mic that Joe Rogan uses. Like, these are mic that Joe Rogan uses. Like, these are the ones that you see all the time. The the ones that you see all the time. The the ones that you see all the time. The nice thing about this mic is that it's nice thing about this mic is that it's nice thing about this mic is that it's dynamic and rejects room noise. So, it dynamic and rejects room noise. So, it dynamic and rejects room noise. So, it can be perfect for like a lot of church can be perfect for like a lot of church can be perfect for like a lot of church podcasts where okay, the room isn't podcasts where okay, the room isn't podcasts where okay, the room isn't treated right. Like this room that we're treated right. Like this room that we're treated right. Like this room that we're in right now, it is small. It has a in right now, it is small. It has a in right now, it is small. It has a pretty low ceiling. We have a carpet on pretty low ceiling. We have a carpet on pretty low ceiling. We have a carpet on the floor. [clears throat] the floor. [clears throat] the floor. [clears throat] >> That's like all we've done for acoustic >> That's like all we've done for acoustic >> That's like all we've done for acoustic treatment. And this mic helps us with treatment. And this mic helps us with treatment. And this mic helps us with that because this is not like a room that because this is not like a room that because this is not like a room without reverberation.

without reverberation. without reverberation. >> And we're like we're on these mics, but >> And we're like we're on these mics, but >> And we're like we're on these mics, but I'm always impressed when I see other I'm always impressed when I see other I'm always impressed when I see other podcasts where they're like feet away podcasts where they're like feet away podcasts where they're like feet away and just doing all sorts of silly stuff and just doing all sorts of silly stuff and just doing all sorts of silly stuff and the mic's just like, "Yeah, I got and the mic's just like, "Yeah, I got and the mic's just like, "Yeah, I got it. I can hear you." it. I can hear you." it. I can hear you." >> Yeah. Every audio person is like, "No, >> Yeah. Every audio person is like, "No, >> Yeah. Every audio person is like, "No, like Sunday morning's already awful. I like Sunday morning's already awful. I like Sunday morning's already awful. I can't get my pastor to hold the mic can't get my pastor to hold the mic can't get my pastor to hold the mic anywhere close. Like again, Judas Smith anywhere close. Like again, Judas Smith anywhere close. Like again, Judas Smith and his witchcraft. Like, we don't know and his witchcraft. Like, we don't know and his witchcraft. Like, we don't know what he's doing, what his sound guy is what he's doing, what his sound guy is what he's doing, what his sound guy is doing. Um, okay. Here's the problem with doing. Um, okay. Here's the problem with doing. Um, okay. Here's the problem with these mics. You can't just use this mic. these mics. You can't just use this mic. these mics. You can't just use this mic. >> You have to plug it into uh this thing. >> You have to plug it into uh this thing. >> You have to plug it into uh this thing. Where's the thing? Where's the thing? Where's the thing? >> Oh, it's behind it's the lifter is >> Oh, it's behind it's the lifter is >> Oh, it's behind it's the lifter is behind the interface. behind the interface. behind the interface. >> Like, this mic doesn't have enough gain >> Like, this mic doesn't have enough gain >> Like, this mic doesn't have enough gain in it. And so, you have to use like I in it. And so, you have to use like I in it. And so, you have to use like I don't even know how to like describe don't even know how to like describe don't even know how to like describe this. this. this. >> Yeah, it's just like a little gain >> Yeah, it's just like a little gain >> Yeah, it's just like a little gain booster. I think it's called a lifter, booster. I think it's called a lifter, booster. I think it's called a lifter, >> right? So, like, hey, I also don't know >> right? So, like, hey, I also don't know >> right? So, like, hey, I also don't know anything. I bought this $400 mic. Can I anything. I bought this $400 mic. Can I anything. I bought this $400 mic. Can I use it? No. use it? No. use it? No. >> No. You need another thing. >> No. You need another thing. >> No. You need another thing. >> You need another thing to actually make >> You need another thing to actually make >> You need another thing to actually make it work. It's like really. It's like it work. It's like really. It's like it work. It's like really. It's like when you buy those things and you're when you buy those things and you're when you buy those things and you're like, "Wait, what battery does this like, "Wait, what battery does this like, "Wait, what battery does this need? [laughter] I don't have this need? [laughter] I don't have this need? [laughter] I don't have this battery." battery." battery." >> Yeah, that's this mic. And so, like, I >> Yeah, that's this mic. And so, like, I >> Yeah, that's this mic. And so, like, I don't know. I don't think this would be don't know. I don't think this would be don't know. I don't think this would be my first mic to re recommend to my first mic to re recommend to my first mic to re recommend to churches. Um, so let's move on to other churches. Um, so let's move on to other churches. Um, so let's move on to other ones. Let's talk about the best value ones. Let's talk about the best value ones. Let's talk about the best value mic coming in at $100. This is the Road mic coming in at $100. This is the Road mic coming in at $100. This is the Road Pod Mic. The cool thing about Road, and Pod Mic. The cool thing about Road, and Pod Mic. The cool thing about Road, and we're going to get into this with a ton we're going to get into this with a ton we're going to get into this with a ton of their gear, is that of their gear, is that of their gear, is that >> on the heels of podcasting becoming very >> on the heels of podcasting becoming very >> on the heels of podcasting becoming very popular, they were like, "Hey, what if popular, they were like, "Hey, what if popular, they were like, "Hey, what if we like developed things specifically we like developed things specifically we like developed things specifically for podcasting?" The reason like the for podcasting?" The reason like the for podcasting?" The reason like the Sure SM7B is like the industry standard Sure SM7B is like the industry standard Sure SM7B is like the industry standard is that like it was the best mic for is that like it was the best mic for is that like it was the best mic for podcasting that like predated podcasts podcasting that like predated podcasts podcasting that like predated podcasts in a lot of ways, and now podcasting has in a lot of ways, and now podcasting has in a lot of ways, and now podcasting has been around for been around for been around for >> like the everyman podcast.

>> like the everyman podcast. >> like the everyman podcast. >> Yeah. And now it's like, okay, like >> Yeah. And now it's like, okay, like >> Yeah. And now it's like, okay, like you're going to look up for a podcast you're going to look up for a podcast you're going to look up for a podcast mic. We're going to create something mic. We're going to create something mic. We're going to create something just for you. And that's not a bad just for you. And that's not a bad just for you. And that's not a bad thing. Like this is a $100 mic designed thing. Like this is a $100 mic designed thing. Like this is a $100 mic designed specifically for podcasting. Um it's got specifically for podcasting. Um it's got specifically for podcasting. Um it's got a built-in shock mount, built-in pop a built-in shock mount, built-in pop a built-in shock mount, built-in pop filter. You know what? This doesn't have filter. You know what? This doesn't have filter. You know what? This doesn't have like a built-in shock mount. Like we had like a built-in shock mount. Like we had like a built-in shock mount. Like we had to buy these mounts as well. Like to buy these mounts as well. Like to buy these mounts as well. Like another thing, another thing, another thing, >> XLR connection on the Road Pod Mic, just >> XLR connection on the Road Pod Mic, just >> XLR connection on the Road Pod Mic, just like the Sure SM7B that we're using now. like the Sure SM7B that we're using now. like the Sure SM7B that we're using now. And for 100 bucks, like about as good And for 100 bucks, like about as good And for 100 bucks, like about as good quality as you can expect and a lot more quality as you can expect and a lot more quality as you can expect and a lot more beginner friendly than something like beginner friendly than something like beginner friendly than something like this. This is what I want to stress. this. This is what I want to stress. this. This is what I want to stress. >> You see this mic everywhere. Don't get >> You see this mic everywhere. Don't get >> You see this mic everywhere. Don't get it. [laughter] it. [laughter] it. [laughter] Okay. This is not the mic. Okay. This is not the mic. Okay. This is not the mic. >> This piece of gear we highlighted, but >> This piece of gear we highlighted, but >> This piece of gear we highlighted, but please do not purchase it. please do not purchase it. please do not purchase it. >> First two mics we recommended were both >> First two mics we recommended were both >> First two mics we recommended were both XLR XLR XLR >> full size. >> full size. >> full size. >> Yeah. Yeah. And you don't have to use >> Yeah. Yeah. And you don't have to use >> Yeah. Yeah. And you don't have to use XLR because when you use XLR, you cannot XLR because when you use XLR, you cannot XLR because when you use XLR, you cannot plug that into your computer. So now plug that into your computer. So now plug that into your computer. So now you're introducing interfaces and we'll you're introducing interfaces and we'll you're introducing interfaces and we'll get into that category. But if you want get into that category. But if you want get into that category. But if you want to make things simpler, you could go to make things simpler, you could go to make things simpler, you could go with one that has USB connection. And with one that has USB connection. And with one that has USB connection. And the first one that we want to offer up the first one that we want to offer up the first one that we want to offer up there is a hybrid one that is XLR and there is a hybrid one that is XLR and there is a hybrid one that is XLR and USB. The Shure MV7 Plus. This is around USB. The Shure MV7 Plus. This is around USB. The Shure MV7 Plus. This is around $300 USD. Again, can work with with both $300 USD. Again, can work with with both $300 USD. Again, can work with with both XLR or USBC. And again, a good mic for XLR or USBC. And again, a good mic for XLR or USBC. And again, a good mic for an imperfect room.

an imperfect room. an imperfect room. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, you know, we're we're >> Okay. So, you know, we're we're >> Okay. So, you know, we're we're repurposing a room. This is not repurposing a room. This is not repurposing a room. This is not acoustically treated. We are going to acoustically treated. We are going to acoustically treated. We are going to have maybe multiple people talking and have maybe multiple people talking and have maybe multiple people talking and we want to do the best that we can and we want to do the best that we can and we want to do the best that we can and let the mic make up for maybe the let the mic make up for maybe the let the mic make up for maybe the deficiencies in this room. deficiencies in this room. deficiencies in this room. >> It's got onboard controls, this one, >> It's got onboard controls, this one, >> It's got onboard controls, this one, >> which is always useful, right? Like >> which is always useful, right? Like >> which is always useful, right? Like >> no controls on this guy. again. What >> no controls on this guy. again. What >> no controls on this guy. again. What [laughter] a piece of trash. [laughter] a piece of trash. [laughter] a piece of trash. >> Why are we using this? >> Why are we using this? >> Why are we using this? >> I'm kind of beefing with this mic right >> I'm kind of beefing with this mic right >> I'm kind of beefing with this mic right now, aren't I? Okay, final one is Oh, now, aren't I? Okay, final one is Oh, now, aren't I? Okay, final one is Oh, no. We got two more. Final real one, I no. We got two more. Final real one, I no. We got two more. Final real one, I guess, is the uh the best budget option. guess, is the uh the best budget option. guess, is the uh the best budget option. This is the Audio Technica AT2040. This is the Audio Technica AT2040. This is the Audio Technica AT2040. Again, 100 bucks. [sighs] Uh just a Again, 100 bucks. [sighs] Uh just a Again, 100 bucks. [sighs] Uh just a great mic, and we wanted to highlight great mic, and we wanted to highlight great mic, and we wanted to highlight something that wasn't sure, you know, we something that wasn't sure, you know, we something that wasn't sure, you know, we want to give them love, but not all the want to give them love, but not all the want to give them love, but not all the love. love. love. >> And it's pretty plain jane mic, but it >> And it's pretty plain jane mic, but it >> And it's pretty plain jane mic, but it does the trick. Now, what if you wanted does the trick. Now, what if you wanted does the trick. Now, what if you wanted to do like mobile podcast, mobile to do like mobile podcast, mobile to do like mobile podcast, mobile interviews like this? interviews like this? interviews like this? >> Team tiny mic. >> Team tiny mic. >> Team tiny mic. >> Ah, team tiny mic. Now, you could look >> Ah, team tiny mic. Now, you could look >> Ah, team tiny mic. Now, you could look at the roads again here, but we want to at the roads again here, but we want to at the roads again here, but we want to talk about the ones that we use. Okay, talk about the ones that we use. Okay, talk about the ones that we use. Okay, the DJI mic 2. And this comes with a the DJI mic 2. And this comes with a the DJI mic 2. And this comes with a receiver and two tiny mics, 350 receiver and two tiny mics, 350 receiver and two tiny mics, 350 bucksish. And what's great about this is bucksish. And what's great about this is bucksish. And what's great about this is that it can be a mic that you use for a that it can be a mic that you use for a that it can be a mic that you use for a number of things. So, I saw it in a number of things. So, I saw it in a number of things. So, I saw it in a recent podcast where someone was on the recent podcast where someone was on the recent podcast where someone was on the phone in their podcast.

phone in their podcast. phone in their podcast. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, so there's two people, you and >> Okay. So, so there's two people, you and >> Okay. So, so there's two people, you and I, we're chopping it up I, we're chopping it up I, we're chopping it up >> and then they're like, "What if we got >> and then they're like, "What if we got >> and then they're like, "What if we got the opinion from Tim? the opinion from Tim? the opinion from Tim? >> I'm going to call Tim up." So, they >> I'm going to call Tim up." So, they >> I'm going to call Tim up." So, they called Tim called Tim called Tim >> and they put their tiny mic right up to >> and they put their tiny mic right up to >> and they put their tiny mic right up to the iPhone speaker the iPhone speaker the iPhone speaker >> and it worked. >> and it worked. >> and it worked. >> And then you could hear Tim on the >> And then you could hear Tim on the >> And then you could hear Tim on the phone. And phone. And phone. And >> because Tim didn't like record his sound >> because Tim didn't like record his sound >> because Tim didn't like record his sound on his end, it actually like sounded a on his end, it actually like sounded a on his end, it actually like sounded a lot more like engaging and authentic lot more like engaging and authentic lot more like engaging and authentic because like it sounded like what you because like it sounded like what you because like it sounded like what you expect people to sound like on the expect people to sound like on the expect people to sound like on the phone. We recorded a recent video and I phone. We recorded a recent video and I phone. We recorded a recent video and I just attached the tiny mic on my lapel just attached the tiny mic on my lapel just attached the tiny mic on my lapel classic and it was the mic that way. And classic and it was the mic that way. And classic and it was the mic that way. And so these can be used for podcast. They so these can be used for podcast. They so these can be used for podcast. They can be used for any number of things. Um can be used for any number of things. Um can be used for any number of things. Um you can connect actual mics to them and you can connect actual mics to them and you can connect actual mics to them and they can just be receivers or they can they can just be receivers or they can they can just be receivers or they can be little mics themselves. Very be little mics themselves. Very be little mics themselves. Very versatile. We love them. Not just for versatile. We love them. Not just for versatile. We love them. Not just for podcasting. podcasting. podcasting. >> Just use them in all different types of >> Just use them in all different types of >> Just use them in all different types of uh scenarios. I see a lot of pastors uh scenarios. I see a lot of pastors uh scenarios. I see a lot of pastors wearing them as they preach. Uh which I wearing them as they preach. Uh which I wearing them as they preach. Uh which I assume they're recording the audio to assume they're recording the audio to assume they're recording the audio to their phone for some other use or their phone for some other use or their phone for some other use or something. Um something. Um something. Um >> Right. So they're holding a mic and >> Right. So they're holding a mic and >> Right. So they're holding a mic and they're also wearing a mic. they're also wearing a mic. they're also wearing a mic. >> Yeah. If someone wants to tell us what >> Yeah. If someone wants to tell us what >> Yeah. If someone wants to tell us what that what that that what that that what that >> Yeah, I've just seen it. I don't know >> Yeah, I've just seen it. I don't know >> Yeah, I've just seen it. I don't know what it's about. I'm just assuming. Uh what it's about. I'm just assuming. Uh what it's about. I'm just assuming. Uh but uh but uh but uh >> is it Judah Smith again?

>> is it Judah Smith again? >> is it Judah Smith again? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> You know, I have my con conspiracy >> You know, I have my con conspiracy >> You know, I have my con conspiracy theory about Judah Smith. theory about Judah Smith. theory about Judah Smith. >> One more um note on this mic, the DJI >> One more um note on this mic, the DJI >> One more um note on this mic, the DJI Mic 2. For a while, I hated the DJI Mic Mic 2. For a while, I hated the DJI Mic Mic 2. For a while, I hated the DJI Mic 2 because it made all these promises and 2 because it made all these promises and 2 because it made all these promises and it sounded like crap. And then what I it sounded like crap. And then what I it sounded like crap. And then what I realized was I had configured the auto realized was I had configured the auto realized was I had configured the auto noise cancelling. Do not use this noise cancelling. Do not use this noise cancelling. Do not use this feature. Okay? I I promise you, you do feature. Okay? I I promise you, you do feature. Okay? I I promise you, you do not want to use this feature. Disable not want to use this feature. Disable not want to use this feature. Disable it. Do your auto noise cancellation. Not it. Do your auto noise cancellation. Not it. Do your auto noise cancellation. Not auto. Do it manually in post. And we'll auto. Do it manually in post. And we'll auto. Do it manually in post. And we'll talk about how to do that. Next talk about how to do that. Next talk about how to do that. Next category, category, category, >> interfaces and recorders. So this first >> interfaces and recorders. So this first >> interfaces and recorders. So this first one that I wanted to mention this is one that I wanted to mention this is one that I wanted to mention this is like an an aspirational recorder for me. like an an aspirational recorder for me. like an an aspirational recorder for me. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Like we have never used it and >> Okay. Like we have never used it and >> Okay. Like we have never used it and again it's road again it's road again it's road >> that created podcast gear specifically. >> that created podcast gear specifically. >> that created podcast gear specifically. Why don't we use this? Because we have Why don't we use this? Because we have Why don't we use this? Because we have been podcasting since 2014. And back been podcasting since 2014. And back been podcasting since 2014. And back then we were not looking at podcast then we were not looking at podcast then we were not looking at podcast gear. You looked at microphone and audio gear. You looked at microphone and audio gear. You looked at microphone and audio gear that existed that would make the gear that existed that would make the gear that existed that would make the most sense for podcasting. most sense for podcasting. most sense for podcasting. >> We've been using this piece for so long. >> We've been using this piece for so long. >> We've been using this piece for so long. It's got a little digital screen on it It's got a little digital screen on it It's got a little digital screen on it like you know 1 and 12 in by 1 in. It's like you know 1 and 12 in by 1 in. It's like you know 1 and 12 in by 1 in. It's the the screen is burnt in. Like you the the screen is burnt in. Like you the the screen is burnt in. Like you can't even see what's on the screen can't even see what's on the screen can't even see what's on the screen anymore because we've been using it for anymore because we've been using it for anymore because we've been using it for so long. So so long. So so long. So >> what?

>> what? >> what? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What does that mean? >> What does that mean? >> What does that mean? >> It still does its job in recording our >> It still does its job in recording our >> It still does its job in recording our audio. audio. audio. >> So like if you turn >> So like if you turn >> So like if you turn >> if you go to try and change that menu, >> if you go to try and change that menu, >> if you go to try and change that menu, that screen will be burnt in. Yeah. that screen will be burnt in. Yeah. that screen will be burnt in. Yeah. >> Okay. None of the gear in this studio >> Okay. None of the gear in this studio >> Okay. None of the gear in this studio you [laughter] want. Okay. This is the you [laughter] want. Okay. This is the you [laughter] want. Okay. This is the point that we're making. So the point that we're making. So the point that we're making. So the all-in-one beast. This is the Roadcaster all-in-one beast. This is the Roadcaster all-in-one beast. This is the Roadcaster Pro 2. $700. not cheap, but it is like a Pro 2. $700. not cheap, but it is like a Pro 2. $700. not cheap, but it is like a Swiss Army knife, a do-it-all podcast Swiss Army knife, a do-it-all podcast Swiss Army knife, a do-it-all podcast production studio. It is a mixer, it's production studio. It is a mixer, it's production studio. It is a mixer, it's an audio interface, it's a recorder, an audio interface, it's a recorder, an audio interface, it's a recorder, it's a sound effects pad, all in a it's a sound effects pad, all in a it's a sound effects pad, all in a single device. So, we wanted to spend a single device. So, we wanted to spend a single device. So, we wanted to spend a little bit more time on this than little bit more time on this than little bit more time on this than others. What makes this stand out? So, others. What makes this stand out? So, others. What makes this stand out? So, let's talk about the inputs and the let's talk about the inputs and the let's talk about the inputs and the routing. It's got four routing. It's got four routing. It's got four >> XLRT TRS combo inputs, so you can do a >> XLRT TRS combo inputs, so you can do a >> XLRT TRS combo inputs, so you can do a fourperson fourperson fourperson >> panel show. We only do two people, you >> panel show. We only do two people, you >> panel show. We only do two people, you could do four. Now, there is a cheaper could do four. Now, there is a cheaper could do four. Now, there is a cheaper version for this if you only plan on version for this if you only plan on version for this if you only plan on doing two. We'll get to that. doing two. We'll get to that. doing two. We'll get to that. >> There are nine individually configurable >> There are nine individually configurable >> There are nine individually configurable channels, USB, Bluetooth, sound pads. channels, USB, Bluetooth, sound pads. channels, USB, Bluetooth, sound pads. So, what this means is by sound pads So, what this means is by sound pads So, what this means is by sound pads like we, you know, like if you listen to like we, you know, like if you listen to like we, you know, like if you listen to like a radio show and they like have like a radio show and they like have like a radio show and they like have those drops.

those drops. those drops. >> I always wanted that for this podcast. >> I always wanted that for this podcast. >> I always wanted that for this podcast. Just like just like a little pad here Just like just like a little pad here Just like just like a little pad here and I could, you know, and I could, you know, and I could, you know, >> yeah, queue up some queue up some little >> yeah, queue up some queue up some little >> yeah, queue up some queue up some little bits. bits. bits. >> Well, this is why I say aspirationally >> Well, this is why I say aspirationally >> Well, this is why I say aspirationally because like maybe we go and and and do because like maybe we go and and and do because like maybe we go and and and do this like one of the things that we've this like one of the things that we've this like one of the things that we've seen become very popular with podcasts seen become very popular with podcasts seen become very popular with podcasts is doing them live. is doing them live. is doing them live. >> Mhm. You know, we've never done that on >> Mhm. You know, we've never done that on >> Mhm. You know, we've never done that on our show, but you know, in the last week our show, but you know, in the last week our show, but you know, in the last week or so, I've been thinking about like or so, I've been thinking about like or so, I've been thinking about like we're going to do it live. Well, is that we're going to do it live. Well, is that we're going to do it live. Well, is that something that we want to do? Because, something that we want to do? Because, something that we want to do? Because, you know, okay, therapy hour with Brady you know, okay, therapy hour with Brady you know, okay, therapy hour with Brady here. Okay. So, last week here. Okay. So, last week here. Okay. So, last week >> twice in one day, I got accused of >> twice in one day, I got accused of >> twice in one day, I got accused of writing my scripts with AI. writing my scripts with AI. writing my scripts with AI. >> Yeah, that happened. One person called >> Yeah, that happened. One person called >> Yeah, that happened. One person called me church GPT. Pretty good. It's pretty me church GPT. Pretty good. It's pretty me church GPT. Pretty good. It's pretty good. Come on. It's Yeah, it is good. good. Come on. It's Yeah, it is good. good. Come on. It's Yeah, it is good. The problem was is that both comments, The problem was is that both comments, The problem was is that both comments, one on a YouTube video and one on a a one on a YouTube video and one on a a one on a YouTube video and one on a a carousel, carousel, carousel, >> two different pieces of content, like >> two different pieces of content, like >> two different pieces of content, like not even the same piece not even the same piece not even the same piece >> in different medias, both were written >> in different medias, both were written >> in different medias, both were written 100% by [laughter] me. 100% by [laughter] me. 100% by [laughter] me. >> And I can prove it. >> And I can prove it. >> And I can prove it. >> Well, can you that's >> Well, can you that's >> Well, can you that's >> No, no, they have the the new tool. It's >> No, no, they have the the new tool. It's >> No, no, they have the the new tool. It's like Quill or whatever. Like people like like Quill or whatever. Like people like like Quill or whatever. Like people like swear by like this is actually really swear by like this is actually really swear by like this is actually really good. I put my stuff through there. 0% good. I put my stuff through there. 0% good. I put my stuff through there. 0% AI. Okay. I'm not just saying it. I can AI. Okay. I'm not just saying it. I can AI. Okay. I'm not just saying it. I can show you the proof.

show you the proof. show you the proof. >> If you don't believe me, okay? Either >> If you don't believe me, okay? Either >> If you don't believe me, okay? Either believe me or believe the proof. Believe believe me or believe the proof. Believe believe me or believe the proof. Believe something. And uh I was like what is something. And uh I was like what is something. And uh I was like what is happening here? And I think as I parsed happening here? And I think as I parsed happening here? And I think as I parsed it out I was like okay what's happening it out I was like okay what's happening it out I was like okay what's happening is that AI and LLM are being trained on is that AI and LLM are being trained on is that AI and LLM are being trained on direct response copy best practices direct response copy best practices direct response copy best practices >> which is like how you write for like the >> which is like how you write for like the >> which is like how you write for like the internet and for people to do things internet and for people to do things internet and for people to do things like just copywriting 101. Well, if all like just copywriting 101. Well, if all like just copywriting 101. Well, if all the LLMs get trained on like this 200 the LLMs get trained on like this 200 the LLMs get trained on like this 200 years of human history with years of human history with years of human history with copyrightiting, then they're all going copyrightiting, then they're all going copyrightiting, then they're all going to start like putting out their own to start like putting out their own to start like putting out their own version of that and then what people version of that and then what people version of that and then what people will do is interpret that as AI. will do is interpret that as AI. will do is interpret that as AI. >> But it wasn't. It was the humans that >> But it wasn't. It was the humans that >> But it wasn't. It was the humans that trained the AI, but now everyone's like, trained the AI, but now everyone's like, trained the AI, but now everyone's like, "Haha, AI." What do you do? You do "Haha, AI." What do you do? You do "Haha, AI." What do you do? You do things that people will immediately things that people will immediately things that people will immediately intuitit are real. This is why sermon intuitit are real. This is why sermon intuitit are real. This is why sermon clips are still going to be great clips are still going to be great clips are still going to be great because no one's like, "That's AI." You because no one's like, "That's AI." You because no one's like, "That's AI." You can tell, "Okay, that was to a can tell, "Okay, that was to a can tell, "Okay, that was to a congregation first." So lives become congregation first." So lives become congregation first." So lives become that much more totally that much more totally that much more totally >> useful because okay clearly this is not >> useful because okay clearly this is not >> useful because okay clearly this is not AI and then two like being in person AI and then two like being in person AI and then two like being in person right like when we go to a church and we right like when we go to a church and we right like when we go to a church and we take a video hey we're at a church I'm take a video hey we're at a church I'm take a video hey we're at a church I'm talking to a pastor like okay this is talking to a pastor like okay this is talking to a pastor like okay this is clearly not AI meanwhile clearly not AI meanwhile clearly not AI meanwhile >> monologue Brady >> monologue Brady >> monologue Brady >> people are like church GPT >> people are like church GPT >> people are like church GPT >> maybe then my dad will actually believe >> maybe then my dad will actually believe >> maybe then my dad will actually believe me when I tell him that we don't cut me when I tell him that we don't cut me when I tell him that we don't cut this podcast up we do this every couple this podcast up we do this every couple this podcast up we do this every couple months he's like so like you know like months he's like so like you know like months he's like so like you know like how many cuts do you make I'm like how many cuts do you make I'm like how many cuts do you make I'm like literally none like we don't chop this literally none like we don't chop this literally none like we don't chop this up. This is we just sit down and like up. This is we just sit down and like up. This is we just sit down and like this is one take. And he's like, "Are this is one take. And he's like, "Are this is one take. And he's like, "Are you sure?" I'm like, "Yep, I'm in the you sure?" I'm like, "Yep, I'm in the you sure?" I'm like, "Yep, I'm in the room." So there we go. I can finally I room." So there we go. I can finally I room." So there we go. I can finally I can finally prove to my dad we do it can finally prove to my dad we do it can finally prove to my dad we do it live. Although like what if we get the live. Although like what if we get the live. Although like what if we get the one time we we get the yips, we know

one time we we get the yips, we know one time we we get the yips, we know we're live, [laughter] we're live, [laughter] we're live, [laughter] >> right? So it would be pretty easy to >> right? So it would be pretty easy to >> right? So it would be pretty easy to make this live. So we could have like, make this live. So we could have like, make this live. So we could have like, you know, our producer Tristan, let's you know, our producer Tristan, let's you know, our producer Tristan, let's say, right there, or producer Owen, and say, right there, or producer Owen, and say, right there, or producer Owen, and then they could be the ones that are then they could be the ones that are then they could be the ones that are working the sound pads on the road pad working the sound pads on the road pad working the sound pads on the road pad uh pod pad coer. The pad coer. It's uh pod pad coer. The pad coer. It's uh pod pad coer. The pad coer. It's definitely the pad podcast. the definitely the pad podcast. the definitely the pad podcast. the Roadcaster Pro 2 going Roadcaster Pro 2 going Roadcaster Pro 2 going or whatever the sound drops are that are or whatever the sound drops are that are or whatever the sound drops are that are cooled. Now, the other thing that's nice cooled. Now, the other thing that's nice cooled. Now, the other thing that's nice about this is that it has built-in about this is that it has built-in about this is that it has built-in processing. So, we have the Sure SM7Bs. processing. So, we have the Sure SM7Bs. processing. So, we have the Sure SM7Bs. They go into the Super Batteries that They go into the Super Batteries that They go into the Super Batteries that only ever needed for this mic that then only ever needed for this mic that then only ever needed for this mic that then go into the interface that we use that's go into the interface that we use that's go into the interface that we use that's 75 years old and is like burnt in. Then, 75 years old and is like burnt in. Then, 75 years old and is like burnt in. Then, [clears throat] we still do a ton of [clears throat] we still do a ton of [clears throat] we still do a ton of post-prouction after that. It's not the post-prouction after that. It's not the post-prouction after that. It's not the most efficient workflow, but you're most efficient workflow, but you're most efficient workflow, but you're listening. listening. listening. >> It's 15 years old, right? Like, it's 10 >> It's 15 years old, right? Like, it's 10 >> It's 15 years old, right? Like, it's 10 years old. The Roadcaster Pro 2 has years old. The Roadcaster Pro 2 has years old. The Roadcaster Pro 2 has built-in processing on every channel. So built-in processing on every channel. So built-in processing on every channel. So that's like the exciters, the that's like the exciters, the that's like the exciters, the compressors, noise gates, the DS or the compressors, noise gates, the DS or the compressors, noise gates, the DS or the highp pass, like that's already in highp pass, like that's already in highp pass, like that's already in there. And so what it promises is like, there. And so what it promises is like, there. And so what it promises is like, hey, you can dial in this like broadcast hey, you can dial in this like broadcast hey, you can dial in this like broadcast quality sound without any external quality sound without any external quality sound without any external plugins, which is super important if plugins, which is super important if plugins, which is super important if you're going live.

you're going live. you're going live. >> So again, >> So again, >> So again, >> interesting. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> Maybe we do this. The preamps have a ton >> Maybe we do this. The preamps have a ton >> Maybe we do this. The preamps have a ton of gain, which is enough to power these of gain, which is enough to power these of gain, which is enough to power these stupid mics. [laughter] stupid mics. [laughter] stupid mics. [laughter] So this is the other nice thing. the SHM So this is the other nice thing. the SHM So this is the other nice thing. the SHM like like 75 dBs of gain on the like like 75 dBs of gain on the like like 75 dBs of gain on the Roadcaster Pro 2. So, we could get rid Roadcaster Pro 2. So, we could get rid Roadcaster Pro 2. So, we could get rid of the cloud lifter, the crowd filters, of the cloud lifter, the crowd filters, of the cloud lifter, the crowd filters, whatever they're called. whatever they're called. whatever they're called. >> Uh it's got a nice touchcreen which can >> Uh it's got a nice touchcreen which can >> Uh it's got a nice touchcreen which can control everything. It's modern. It's control everything. It's modern. It's control everything. It's modern. It's intuitive. intuitive. intuitive. >> It is going to probably be overwhelming >> It is going to probably be overwhelming >> It is going to probably be overwhelming at first. at first. at first. >> Sure. Right. Like it is this monster. >> Sure. Right. Like it is this monster. >> Sure. Right. Like it is this monster. Anything that can do it all Anything that can do it all Anything that can do it all >> means >> means >> means >> deep learning curve. >> deep learning curve. >> deep learning curve. >> It can do a ton of things that you don't >> It can do a ton of things that you don't >> It can do a ton of things that you don't want it to do. want it to do. want it to do. >> Which means when you're learning and >> Which means when you're learning and >> Which means when you're learning and you're trying to figure out the one you're trying to figure out the one you're trying to figure out the one thing that you want it to do, invariably thing that you want it to do, invariably thing that you want it to do, invariably you will stumble into the other 10 that you will stumble into the other 10 that you will stumble into the other 10 that you don't care about that will confuse you don't care about that will confuse you don't care about that will confuse you. So something to think about. Now if you. So something to think about. Now if you. So something to think about. Now if you're like that's overkill, if you're you're like that's overkill, if you're you're like that's overkill, if you're like that steep learning curve is not like that steep learning curve is not like that steep learning curve is not what my church needs. If you're just two what my church needs. If you're just two what my church needs. If you're just two people, you don't need the four. The people, you don't need the four. The people, you don't need the four. The other option is the Roadcaster Duo. It's other option is the Roadcaster Duo. It's other option is the Roadcaster Duo. It's going to drop the price down to about going to drop the price down to about going to drop the price down to about $450. $450. $450. Same quality preamps. You can still use Same quality preamps. You can still use Same quality preamps. You can still use your loser mics and it's got those two your loser mics and it's got those two your loser mics and it's got those two inputs, right? So you just don't get the inputs, right? So you just don't get the inputs, right? So you just don't get the four.

four. four. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> About twothirds the price. So, you know, >> About twothirds the price. So, you know, >> About twothirds the price. So, you know, some savings there. some savings there. some savings there. >> Let's go to some cheaper options. Simple >> Let's go to some cheaper options. Simple >> Let's go to some cheaper options. Simple and reliable. The Focus right Scarlet and reliable. The Focus right Scarlet and reliable. The Focus right Scarlet 2i2. 2i2. 2i2. >> $200. Such a classic. It's actually >> $200. Such a classic. It's actually >> $200. Such a classic. It's actually crazy that we have never used this. crazy that we have never used this. crazy that we have never used this. >> I think I used it for >> I think I used it for >> I think I used it for >> I definitely used some Scarlet >> I definitely used some Scarlet >> I definitely used some Scarlet interfaces for when I was making music. interfaces for when I was making music. interfaces for when I was making music. >> I think we also used one when we did the >> I think we also used one when we did the >> I think we also used one when we did the 167 live. We've done it live before. 167 live. We've done it live before. 167 live. We've done it live before. >> We did that live. Yes. >> We did that live. Yes. >> We did that live. Yes. >> In this room. >> In this room. >> In this room. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Co live. >> Co live. >> Co live. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Absolutely. Great for beginners. >> Absolutely. Great for beginners. >> Absolutely. Great for beginners. >> I saw a gentleman on on Instagram 3D >> I saw a gentleman on on Instagram 3D >> I saw a gentleman on on Instagram 3D printing a little under desk mount for printing a little under desk mount for printing a little under desk mount for it. Looks pretty sleek, actually. Yeah. it. Looks pretty sleek, actually. Yeah. it. Looks pretty sleek, actually. Yeah. >> And it's also nice because it's USB >> And it's also nice because it's USB >> And it's also nice because it's USB powered, so you don't need a wall powered, so you don't need a wall powered, so you don't need a wall outlet, which, you know, in this room outlet, which, you know, in this room outlet, which, you know, in this room are apparently extremely scarce. are apparently extremely scarce. are apparently extremely scarce. >> They really are. And it's only 200 >> They really are. And it's only 200 >> They really are. And it's only 200 bucks. bucks. bucks. >> Yeah. Which is great. Another option >> Yeah. Which is great. Another option >> Yeah. Which is great. Another option that's roughly that much. Again, made that's roughly that much. Again, made that's roughly that much. Again, made for podcasters. The Focus Right Vocer 2. for podcasters. The Focus Right Vocer 2. for podcasters. The Focus Right Vocer 2. I have not used this one, but why have I I have not used this one, but why have I I have not used this one, but why have I not used it? Because it was made for not used it? Because it was made for not used it? Because it was made for podcasters, and we've covered that podcasters, and we've covered that podcasters, and we've covered that already. So, this has the nice like auto already. So, this has the nice like auto already. So, this has the nice like auto gain features, which is great for gain features, which is great for gain features, which is great for getting that if you want that live getting that if you want that live getting that if you want that live quality or if you just want like less quality or if you just want like less quality or if you just want like less postp production, which I know a lot of postp production, which I know a lot of postp production, which I know a lot of churches do, and it's more intuitive.

churches do, and it's more intuitive. churches do, and it's more intuitive. It's going to be easier, less of a steep It's going to be easier, less of a steep It's going to be easier, less of a steep learning curve. learning curve. learning curve. >> We've alluded to it already. Which one >> We've alluded to it already. Which one >> We've alluded to it already. Which one are we using in this room? It are we using in this room? It are we using in this room? It >> doesn't matter. [laughter] >> doesn't matter. [laughter] >> doesn't matter. [laughter] We're using the Sound Devices Mix Pre. We're using the Sound Devices Mix Pre. We're using the Sound Devices Mix Pre. Now, I am not saying anything bad about Now, I am not saying anything bad about Now, I am not saying anything bad about Sound Devices, okay? They are an amazing Sound Devices, okay? They are an amazing Sound Devices, okay? They are an amazing brand in the world of audio. If you ever brand in the world of audio. If you ever brand in the world of audio. If you ever see the sound guy holding the boom mic see the sound guy holding the boom mic see the sound guy holding the boom mic on like a Netflix production, he's on like a Netflix production, he's on like a Netflix production, he's almost certainly got a sound devices almost certainly got a sound devices almost certainly got a sound devices like in his bag. like in his bag. like in his bag. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why do we have a sound devices in our >> Why do we have a sound devices in our >> Why do we have a sound devices in our bag? Because back then, [laughter] bag? Because back then, [laughter] bag? Because back then, [laughter] >> I'm not going to get into it again. This >> I'm not going to get into it again. This >> I'm not going to get into it again. This is like 650 bucks. I could just get an is like 650 bucks. I could just get an is like 650 bucks. I could just get an entire podcast production thing at that entire podcast production thing at that entire podcast production thing at that point for this much. So, point for this much. So, point for this much. So, >> if you want that, >> if you want that, >> if you want that, >> good for you. Okay. Headphones. We're >> good for you. Okay. Headphones. We're >> good for you. Okay. Headphones. We're going to go through this quickly. Why we going to go through this quickly. Why we going to go through this quickly. Why we do not use headphones, do not use headphones, do not use headphones, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> A lot of podcasters do. I understand >> A lot of podcasters do. I understand >> A lot of podcasters do. I understand why. I don't really understand why. why. I don't really understand why. why. I don't really understand why. Sometimes I think like if you have a Sometimes I think like if you have a Sometimes I think like if you have a producer that's relaying things to you, producer that's relaying things to you, producer that's relaying things to you, that's important. If you need to, if that's important. If you need to, if that's important. If you need to, if you're doing it live, you're doing it live, you're doing it live, >> if you're doing [laughter] it live, if >> if you're doing [laughter] it live, if >> if you're doing [laughter] it live, if you need to hear like, okay, we're going you need to hear like, okay, we're going you need to hear like, okay, we're going to listen to like a call from somebody to listen to like a call from somebody to listen to like a call from somebody or hey, we we found that clip online. or hey, we we found that clip online. or hey, we we found that clip online. Play it right now. You need to hear it. Play it right now. You need to hear it.

Play it right now. You need to hear it. Alex and I are just talking to one Alex and I are just talking to one Alex and I are just talking to one another for now. And so, we don't put another for now. And so, we don't put another for now. And so, we don't put headphones in. When do we put in headphones in. When do we put in headphones in. When do we put in headphones? We put in my set of AirPods. headphones? We put in my set of AirPods. headphones? We put in my set of AirPods. when we have a guest. Our rinky dinky when we have a guest. Our rinky dinky when we have a guest. Our rinky dinky setup is that I have my laptop here and setup is that I have my laptop here and setup is that I have my laptop here and we're using Riverside.fm to record it. we're using Riverside.fm to record it. we're using Riverside.fm to record it. That's another nice tool that you can That's another nice tool that you can That's another nice tool that you can use. I'm looking right at the guest and use. I'm looking right at the guest and use. I'm looking right at the guest and we're using the microphone on the we're using the microphone on the we're using the microphone on the laptop. So, when Alex asks a question, laptop. So, when Alex asks a question, laptop. So, when Alex asks a question, he has to kind of speak up. he has to kind of speak up. he has to kind of speak up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then we each have one of my AirPods >> And then we each have one of my AirPods >> And then we each have one of my AirPods in and we put it on the ear that's away in and we put it on the ear that's away in and we put it on the ear that's away from the cameras. So, you're like, "How from the cameras. So, you're like, "How from the cameras. So, you're like, "How is it working?" And so, you kind of see is it working?" And so, you kind of see is it working?" And so, you kind of see it a little bit. The problem with these it a little bit. The problem with these it a little bit. The problem with these AirPods is that um AirPods is that um AirPods is that um >> there's some problems. >> there's some problems. >> there's some problems. >> When you put them in, they like default >> When you put them in, they like default >> When you put them in, they like default to um noise cancellation. to um noise cancellation. to um noise cancellation. >> Yeah. One of the modes. >> Yeah. One of the modes. >> Yeah. One of the modes. >> And when you only have noise >> And when you only have noise >> And when you only have noise cancellation in one ear, it sounds like cancellation in one ear, it sounds like cancellation in one ear, it sounds like melt. Yeah. Like it sounds like you're melt. Yeah. Like it sounds like you're melt. Yeah. Like it sounds like you're dying. And I can never figure out how to dying. And I can never figure out how to dying. And I can never figure out how to turn off. Always takes like 10 minutes turn off. Always takes like 10 minutes turn off. Always takes like 10 minutes an hour cuz it's just like an hour cuz it's just like an hour cuz it's just like >> maybe we'll get some wired headphones. >> maybe we'll get some wired headphones. >> maybe we'll get some wired headphones. >> Yeah. So, and then that is the key. Like >> Yeah. So, and then that is the key. Like >> Yeah. So, and then that is the key. Like the number one rule of using headphones the number one rule of using headphones the number one rule of using headphones if you're podcasting is don't use if you're podcasting is don't use if you're podcasting is don't use wireless ones. wireless ones. wireless ones. >> Except as you've heard, [laughter] you >> Except as you've heard, [laughter] you >> Except as you've heard, [laughter] you know, we're just making it up as we go.

know, we're just making it up as we go. know, we're just making it up as we go. Oh, best overall is going to be the the Oh, best overall is going to be the the Oh, best overall is going to be the the the Bayer Dynamic DT770 Pro. These like the Bayer Dynamic DT770 Pro. These like the Bayer Dynamic DT770 Pro. These like 160 bucks. Top choice for podcasters. 160 bucks. Top choice for podcasters. 160 bucks. Top choice for podcasters. Uh, another option, the Sony MDR7506. Uh, another option, the Sony MDR7506. Uh, another option, the Sony MDR7506. 100 bucks. Um, this is like one that's 100 bucks. Um, this is like one that's 100 bucks. Um, this is like one that's just been used forever. The Audio just been used forever. The Audio just been used forever. The Audio Technica ATTH M50X. Another 170 bucks Technica ATTH M50X. Another 170 bucks Technica ATTH M50X. Another 170 bucks option. And then if you're looking for a option. And then if you're looking for a option. And then if you're looking for a budget one, 50 bucks. Again, Audio budget one, 50 bucks. Again, Audio budget one, 50 bucks. Again, Audio Technica ATTH M20X. That's all you need. Technica ATTH M20X. That's all you need. Technica ATTH M20X. That's all you need. You're podcasting. Yeah. Like just plug You're podcasting. Yeah. Like just plug You're podcasting. Yeah. Like just plug your headphones in and put them on. your headphones in and put them on. your headphones in and put them on. >> Like I I once bought like these like >> Like I I once bought like these like >> Like I I once bought like these like $700 like I don't really rise in my $700 like I don't really rise in my $700 like I don't really rise in my direction. [laughter] direction. [laughter] direction. [laughter] >> I like these ones. Like this is what >> I like these ones. Like this is what >> I like these ones. Like this is what Netflix uses to master audio. I'm like Netflix uses to master audio. I'm like Netflix uses to master audio. I'm like here you go Tristan. He's like what do I here you go Tristan. He's like what do I here you go Tristan. He's like what do I do with these? Like here I am using do with these? Like here I am using do with these? Like here I am using AirPods in the studio. AirPods in the studio. AirPods in the studio. >> Access accessories worth mentioning. >> Access accessories worth mentioning. >> Access accessories worth mentioning. >> Boom arms. So we have these little >> Boom arms. So we have these little >> Boom arms. So we have these little stands here. Uh before this we had like stands here. Uh before this we had like stands here. Uh before this we had like the boom arms so you can like move your the boom arms so you can like move your the boom arms so you can like move your mic around. Um the Rode PSA One Plus is mic around. Um the Rode PSA One Plus is mic around. Um the Rode PSA One Plus is a great one. 130 bucks. Easy. Um, pop a great one. 130 bucks. Easy. Um, pop a great one. 130 bucks. Easy. Um, pop filters. A lot of mics have them built filters. A lot of mics have them built filters. A lot of mics have them built in except ours. [laughter] in except ours. [laughter] in except ours. [laughter] Otherwise, you know, I mean, back in the Otherwise, you know, I mean, back in the Otherwise, you know, I mean, back in the day when I would use condenser mics for day when I would use condenser mics for day when I would use condenser mics for everything, I would have to get like the everything, I would have to get like the everything, I would have to get like the $15 to $20 uh pop filter that you would $15 to $20 uh pop filter that you would $15 to $20 uh pop filter that you would like put in front.

like put in front. like put in front. >> So, might want to look into that. Uh, >> So, might want to look into that. Uh, >> So, might want to look into that. Uh, acoust acoustic treatment. Again, not in acoust acoustic treatment. Again, not in acoust acoustic treatment. Again, not in this room, but in the previous uh this room, but in the previous uh this room, but in the previous uh podcast studio, we did install a bunch podcast studio, we did install a bunch podcast studio, we did install a bunch of acoustic treat. You did? of acoustic treat. You did? of acoustic treat. You did? >> Yeah. I mean, that room is a lot >> Yeah. I mean, that room is a lot >> Yeah. I mean, that room is a lot different. It's uh brick walls, uh different. It's uh brick walls, uh different. It's uh brick walls, uh taller ceilings, open uh like metal taller ceilings, open uh like metal taller ceilings, open uh like metal ceilings, and then one the longest wall ceilings, and then one the longest wall ceilings, and then one the longest wall in the room was all windows, floor to in the room was all windows, floor to in the room was all windows, floor to ceiling. So, it was a bit of a ceiling. So, it was a bit of a ceiling. So, it was a bit of a nightmare. So, we did treatment on the nightmare. So, we did treatment on the nightmare. So, we did treatment on the walls and the entire ceiling, which made walls and the entire ceiling, which made walls and the entire ceiling, which made that room podcastable. Um but again, that room podcastable. Um but again, that room podcastable. Um but again, that was, you know, that was almost 10 that was, you know, that was almost 10 that was, you know, that was almost 10 years ago. Um, I I would be interested years ago. Um, I I would be interested years ago. Um, I I would be interested to I mean, we're not going to do it, but to I mean, we're not going to do it, but to I mean, we're not going to do it, but it would be an interesting thought it would be an interesting thought it would be an interesting thought experiment to to go in there with modern experiment to to go in there with modern experiment to to go in there with modern tech with um, you know, the the AI tech with um, you know, the the AI tech with um, you know, the the AI technology that we have to tend to a lot technology that we have to tend to a lot technology that we have to tend to a lot of these problems that we have in of these problems that we have in of these problems that we have in recording uh, audio in rooms and c like recording uh, audio in rooms and c like recording uh, audio in rooms and c like tech technologically um, with software tech technologically um, with software tech technologically um, with software what you could accomplish in a room like what you could accomplish in a room like what you could accomplish in a room like that before treating it like that that before treating it like that that before treating it like that because it was expensive and it was a because it was expensive and it was a because it was expensive and it was a lot of work. lot of work. lot of work. >> Um, and it was permanent. >> Um, and it was permanent. >> Um, and it was permanent. >> Yes. Al Yeah. Famously permanent. Yeah. >> Yes. Al Yeah. Famously permanent. Yeah. >> Yes. Al Yeah. Famously permanent. Yeah. All right, let's get into software. So, All right, let's get into software. So, All right, let's get into software. So, for recording and editing, there's for recording and editing, there's for recording and editing, there's Audacity, famously free, always great.

Audacity, famously free, always great. Audacity, famously free, always great. Da Vinci Resolve if you're doing a video Da Vinci Resolve if you're doing a video Da Vinci Resolve if you're doing a video podcast, also free famously, and that's podcast, also free famously, and that's podcast, also free famously, and that's what we use to edit this podcast. Uh what we use to edit this podcast. Uh what we use to edit this podcast. Uh Adobe Audition and Adobe Premiere Pro, Adobe Audition and Adobe Premiere Pro, Adobe Audition and Adobe Premiere Pro, obviously part of the Creative Cloud, uh obviously part of the Creative Cloud, uh obviously part of the Creative Cloud, uh we have used those in the past. What is we have used those in the past. What is we have used those in the past. What is that um plugin that like automatically that um plugin that like automatically that um plugin that like automatically cuts between the different hosts? cuts between the different hosts? cuts between the different hosts? >> Autopod. >> Autopod. >> Autopod. >> Autopod. >> Autopod. >> Autopod. >> That's in Premiere. >> That's in Premiere. >> That's in Premiere. >> Okay. So that will automatically take >> Okay. So that will automatically take >> Okay. So that will automatically take your camera angles and using AI chop your camera angles and using AI chop your camera angles and using AI chop them up so that like if Alex is talking, them up so that like if Alex is talking, them up so that like if Alex is talking, it cuts to camera Alex. If Brady's it cuts to camera Alex. If Brady's it cuts to camera Alex. If Brady's talking, it cuts to camera Brady. And talking, it cuts to camera Brady. And talking, it cuts to camera Brady. And then you can kind of like finesse it, then you can kind of like finesse it, then you can kind of like finesse it, but it does a lot of the heavy lifting but it does a lot of the heavy lifting but it does a lot of the heavy lifting right away. right away. right away. >> And then for audio cleanup, just the >> And then for audio cleanup, just the >> And then for audio cleanup, just the goat tool that we always like to goat tool that we always like to goat tool that we always like to recommend, Aonic. Um, we have spent so recommend, Aonic. Um, we have spent so recommend, Aonic. Um, we have spent so many dollars on audio plugins from RX to many dollars on audio plugins from RX to many dollars on audio plugins from RX to Waves to all of like the professional Waves to all of like the professional Waves to all of like the professional ones. And there's just nothing that ones. And there's just nothing that ones. And there's just nothing that contends with Aonic, which is giving you contends with Aonic, which is giving you contends with Aonic, which is giving you two free hours per month. two free hours per month. two free hours per month. >> If we kept this show to under 30 minutes >> If we kept this show to under 30 minutes >> If we kept this show to under 30 minutes on average, which we do, we'd probably on average, which we do, we'd probably on average, which we do, we'd probably be able to get like the free plan if we be able to get like the free plan if we be able to get like the free plan if we didn't make other videos beyond that.

didn't make other videos beyond that. didn't make other videos beyond that. >> It removes noise, it removes reverb, it >> It removes noise, it removes reverb, it >> It removes noise, it removes reverb, it normalizes levels automatically. And as normalizes levels automatically. And as normalizes levels automatically. And as we have been clear about, we need that. we have been clear about, we need that. we have been clear about, we need that. >> Mhm. because our tools are old. >> Mhm. because our tools are old. >> Mhm. because our tools are old. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> It works on credits, right? Beyond the >> It works on credits, right? Beyond the >> It works on credits, right? Beyond the free plan. free plan. free plan. >> Yes. So, you don't have to sign up for >> Yes. So, you don't have to sign up for >> Yes. So, you don't have to sign up for like I'm going to pay $30 a month like like I'm going to pay $30 a month like like I'm going to pay $30 a month like it's alak cart which is nice. Let's talk it's alak cart which is nice. Let's talk it's alak cart which is nice. Let's talk about the full setups now to close out about the full setups now to close out about the full setups now to close out this show. We're going to talk about the this show. We're going to talk about the this show. We're going to talk about the solo pastor setup. We're going to talk solo pastor setup. We're going to talk solo pastor setup. We're going to talk about the twoerson interview setup and about the twoerson interview setup and about the twoerson interview setup and then we'll talk about like the ultra then we'll talk about like the ultra then we'll talk about like the ultra church pod pro which we just came up church pod pro which we just came up church pod pro which we just came up with. Solo pastor setup 150 bucks 250 with. Solo pastor setup 150 bucks 250 with. Solo pastor setup 150 bucks 250 bucks in that range. go with the Rode bucks in that range. go with the Rode bucks in that range. go with the Rode Pod Mic or the Shure MV7 Plus. Pod Mic or the Shure MV7 Plus. Pod Mic or the Shure MV7 Plus. >> If it's USB, just plug it right into the >> If it's USB, just plug it right into the >> If it's USB, just plug it right into the computer. computer. computer. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Easy. And then the free software, >> Easy. And then the free software, >> Easy. And then the free software, Audacity for editing, Aonic for cleaning Audacity for editing, Aonic for cleaning Audacity for editing, Aonic for cleaning it up. it up. it up. >> And then if you need headphones, the >> And then if you need headphones, the >> And then if you need headphones, the Audio Technica ATTHM20X, the $50 ones. Audio Technica ATTHM20X, the $50 ones. Audio Technica ATTHM20X, the $50 ones. Okay. The twoerson setup. You're like, I Okay. The twoerson setup. You're like, I Okay. The twoerson setup. You're like, I like listening to the back and forth like listening to the back and forth like listening to the back and forth between Alex and Brady, between Alex and Brady, between Alex and Brady, >> where >> where >> where >> Brady almost just dominates every >> Brady almost just dominates every >> Brady almost just dominates every conversation, but Alex is there, conversation, but Alex is there, conversation, but Alex is there, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> the pastor and the pragmatist, which >> the pastor and the pragmatist, which >> the pastor and the pragmatist, which was, you know, the other option for the was, you know, the other option for the was, you know, the other option for the name of the show.

name of the show. name of the show. >> You would then go for two road pod mics. >> You would then go for two road pod mics. >> You would then go for two road pod mics. And this setup is in the $400 to $600 And this setup is in the $400 to $600 And this setup is in the $400 to $600 range USD. The Focus right Voccaster 2 range USD. The Focus right Voccaster 2 range USD. The Focus right Voccaster 2 or the Scarlet 2i2. So those are like or the Scarlet 2i2. So those are like or the Scarlet 2i2. So those are like the $200 interfaces. You'd want two the $200 interfaces. You'd want two the $200 interfaces. You'd want two Audio Technica ATTHM50Xs. Audio Technica ATTHM50Xs. Audio Technica ATTHM50Xs. So, now we're spending a little bit more So, now we're spending a little bit more So, now we're spending a little bit more on headphones. Like, or don't on headphones. Like, or don't on headphones. Like, or don't >> go with the M20X's. And then you'd >> go with the M20X's. And then you'd >> go with the M20X's. And then you'd probably need some some boom arms. probably need some some boom arms. probably need some some boom arms. >> Yeah. So, either like a tabletop one >> Yeah. So, either like a tabletop one >> Yeah. So, either like a tabletop one like this or one of the ones that like this or one of the ones that like this or one of the ones that extends like on um Pastor Justin's show, extends like on um Pastor Justin's show, extends like on um Pastor Justin's show, which is called From Your Church. which is called From Your Church. which is called From Your Church. >> Oh, my church. >> Oh, my church. >> Oh, my church. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Oh, this is bad. >> Oh, this is bad. >> Oh, this is bad. >> Uh, no, it's okay. >> Uh, no, it's okay. >> Uh, no, it's okay. >> No, he's going to kill me. >> No, he's going to kill me. >> No, he's going to kill me. >> He won't be listening this far. >> He won't be listening this far. >> He won't be listening this far. >> It's come and see. See me. It's it's >> It's come and see. See me. It's it's >> It's come and see. See me. It's it's it's it's we never do cuts, people. it's it's we never do cuts, people. it's it's we never do cuts, people. >> I did this to you. I'm sorry. >> I did this to you. I'm sorry. >> I did this to you. I'm sorry. >> Yeah, this was not in the notes. We >> Yeah, this was not in the notes. We >> Yeah, this was not in the notes. We stick to the notes. That's why we don't stick to the notes. That's why we don't stick to the notes. That's why we don't need to do cuts. need to do cuts. need to do cuts. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Okay, we're going to do a cut >> Okay, we're going to do a cut >> Okay, we're going to do a cut >> right now. And we're going to come back. >> right now. And we're going to come back. >> right now. And we're going to come back. And we're back. It's [laughter] And we're back. It's [laughter] And we're back. It's [laughter] help me see. help me see. help me see. >> I was so close. >> I was so close. >> I was so close. >> All right. The Do it right church >> All right. The Do it right church >> All right. The Do it right church podcast studio. Now we're talking about podcast studio. Now we're talking about podcast studio. Now we're talking about $1,000, 1,500, maybe up to 2,000.

$1,000, 1,500, maybe up to 2,000. $1,000, 1,500, maybe up to 2,000. >> Okay, we're getting it. We're getting >> Okay, we're getting it. We're getting >> Okay, we're getting it. We're getting the Roadcaster Duo or the Pro two. Okay, the Roadcaster Duo or the Pro two. Okay, the Roadcaster Duo or the Pro two. Okay, we're getting it. We're doing sound we're getting it. We're doing sound we're getting it. We're doing sound drops. Every time the pastor says that drops. Every time the pastor says that drops. Every time the pastor says that word that he always uses, every time word that he always uses, every time word that he always uses, every time Brady says irrespective, ultimately Brady says irrespective, ultimately Brady says irrespective, ultimately invariably, invariably, invariably, whatever it is, you're going with whatever it is, you're going with whatever it is, you're going with apparently two sure SM70s. Why not apparently two sure SM70s. Why not apparently two sure SM70s. Why not >> or the MV7 Plus? Okay. Again, if we were >> or the MV7 Plus? Okay. Again, if we were >> or the MV7 Plus? Okay. Again, if we were using the road and we didn't need the using the road and we didn't need the using the road and we didn't need the Cloud Lifters, maybe these would be I Cloud Lifters, maybe these would be I Cloud Lifters, maybe these would be I don't I have no problems with these don't I have no problems with these don't I have no problems with these mics. Like, it's just mics. Like, it's just mics. Like, it's just >> Okay. And then uh proper boom arms, >> Okay. And then uh proper boom arms, >> Okay. And then uh proper boom arms, maybe some basic acoustic treatment in maybe some basic acoustic treatment in maybe some basic acoustic treatment in the room, right? Like if you watch the the room, right? Like if you watch the the room, right? Like if you watch the video of the podcast studio for our video of the podcast studio for our video of the podcast studio for our church with Justin's podcast, it's church with Justin's podcast, it's church with Justin's podcast, it's called Help Me See. Okay. Um you would called Help Me See. Okay. Um you would called Help Me See. Okay. Um you would see we talk about the acoustic treatment see we talk about the acoustic treatment see we talk about the acoustic treatment that we did in that room because that that we did in that room because that that we did in that room because that room has crazy tall ceilings. Um room has crazy tall ceilings. Um room has crazy tall ceilings. Um >> and then headphones, your choice. If you >> and then headphones, your choice. If you >> and then headphones, your choice. If you want to go with like the bare dynamic want to go with like the bare dynamic want to go with like the bare dynamic like the the standard ones like the like the the standard ones like the like the the standard ones like the industry, great. Or if you want to go industry, great. Or if you want to go industry, great. Or if you want to go with the cheaper ones, again, you want with the cheaper ones, again, you want with the cheaper ones, again, you want to go with some AirPods, I won't tell to go with some AirPods, I won't tell to go with some AirPods, I won't tell anyone cuz [laughter] we do that. All anyone cuz [laughter] we do that. All anyone cuz [laughter] we do that. All this gear will be linked in the this gear will be linked in the this gear will be linked in the description so that way you can find it.

description so that way you can find it. description so that way you can find it. And hey, if you're starting a church And hey, if you're starting a church And hey, if you're starting a church podcast, really encourage you to stick podcast, really encourage you to stick podcast, really encourage you to stick with it. with it. with it. >> This is the [clears throat] key. What >> This is the [clears throat] key. What >> This is the [clears throat] key. What has been true and is still true about has been true and is still true about has been true and is still true about podcasts is that most people start, they podcasts is that most people start, they podcasts is that most people start, they never get past five episodes. They never never get past five episodes. They never never get past five episodes. They never get past 10 episodes. When people ask me get past 10 episodes. When people ask me get past 10 episodes. When people ask me to join the show, what's my rule, Alex? to join the show, what's my rule, Alex? to join the show, what's my rule, Alex? >> You they have to have at least published >> You they have to have at least published >> You they have to have at least published 10 episodes before you'll join the show, 10 episodes before you'll join the show, 10 episodes before you'll join the show, >> right? Because what I know is very few >> right? Because what I know is very few >> right? Because what I know is very few shows get past that. And so if you are, shows get past that. And so if you are, shows get past that. And so if you are, you have proven yourself to be you have proven yourself to be you have proven yourself to be committed. and this is sustainable for committed. and this is sustainable for committed. and this is sustainable for you, I'm happy to join the show for your you, I'm happy to join the show for your you, I'm happy to join the show for your church. Don't make a big thing about it. church. Don't make a big thing about it. church. Don't make a big thing about it. Launch it and then don't stick with it. Launch it and then don't stick with it. Launch it and then don't stick with it. You don't have to be every week. If You don't have to be every week. If You don't have to be every week. If that's not sustainable, go every other that's not sustainable, go every other that's not sustainable, go every other week. Go once a month. I think, you week. Go once a month. I think, you week. Go once a month. I think, you know, Craig Rochelle's leadership know, Craig Rochelle's leadership know, Craig Rochelle's leadership podcast for the longest time was like, podcast for the longest time was like, podcast for the longest time was like, you know, pretty infrequent episodes, you know, pretty infrequent episodes, you know, pretty infrequent episodes, but they were consistent. That's okay. but they were consistent. That's okay. but they were consistent. That's okay. It doesn't need to be every single week. It doesn't need to be every single week. It doesn't need to be every single week. You know, it is every single week. This You know, it is every single week. This You know, it is every single week. This show, show, show, >> will it be live? >> will it be live? >> will it be live? >> You have to come back next week to find >> You have to come back next week to find >> You have to come back next week to find out. out. out. >> It won't be live next week. [laughter] >> It won't be live next week. [laughter] >> It won't be live next week. [laughter] But is Alex gonna come in one day and But is Alex gonna come in one day and But is Alex gonna come in one day and see a giant box road with a sticky note see a giant box road with a sticky note see a giant box road with a sticky note on? Figure it out. [laughter] on? Figure it out. [laughter] on? Figure it out. [laughter] Who's to say thank you for your time, Who's to say thank you for your time, Who's to say thank you for your time, attention, and trust? We'll talk to you attention, and trust? We'll talk to you attention, and trust? We'll talk to you in a pre-recorded [music] format next in a pre-recorded [music] format next in a pre-recorded [music] format next week. I hope you like to hear about week. I hope you like to hear about week. I hope you like to hear about gear. A bunch of it. Oh, the mitro van.