Costly Mistakes I Made As A Christian Leader

as the founder and director of my as the founder and director of my company PR Church tools I manage and company PR Church tools I manage and company PR Church tools I manage and Lead dozens of employees and team Lead dozens of employees and team Lead dozens of employees and team members deploy millions in annual budget members deploy millions in annual budget members deploy millions in annual budget and spending and do my best to Steward and spending and do my best to Steward and spending and do my best to Steward the trust and attention of the tens of the trust and attention of the tens of the trust and attention of the tens of thousands of churches that tune in thousands of churches that tune in thousands of churches that tune in regularly to our content and guess what regularly to our content and guess what regularly to our content and guess what I mess things up all the time so let's I mess things up all the time so let's I mess things up all the time so let's talk about it these are my most costly talk about it these are my most costly talk about it these are my most costly mistakes that I've made as a Christian mistakes that I've made as a Christian mistakes that I've made as a Christian leader leader leader well hey there and welcome to the pro well hey there and welcome to the pro well hey there and welcome to the pro Church tools show we're here to help you Church tools show we're here to help you Church tools show we're here to help you and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm Brady sheirer your host I'm joined as Brady sheirer your host I'm joined as Brady sheirer your host I'm joined as always by my co-host he's the big buck always by my co-host he's the big buck always by my co-host he's the big buck hunting Bishop Alexander Mills hello hunting Bishop Alexander Mills hello hunting Bishop Alexander Mills hello hello welcome you too subscribe to the hello welcome you too subscribe to the hello welcome you too subscribe to the pro Church tool show wherever you get pro Church tool show wherever you get pro Church tool show wherever you get your podcast and watch fulllength your podcast and watch fulllength your podcast and watch fulllength episodes including this one on YouTube episodes including this one on YouTube episodes including this one on YouTube not just the big buck hunting Bishop but not just the big buck hunting Bishop but not just the big buck hunting Bishop but also my brother wearing brown today is also my brother wearing brown today is also my brother wearing brown today is the season I was talking with uh my nail the season I was talking with uh my nail the season I was talking with uh my nail tech yesterday like you do don't sorry tech yesterday like you do don't sorry tech yesterday like you do don't sorry sorry what you want me to say my sorry what you want me to say my sorry what you want me to say my manicurist yeah I don't know what I manicurist yeah I don't know what I manicurist yeah I don't know what I expect you to say my nail T and I I expect you to say my nail T and I I expect you to say my nail T and I I asked her I was like how do you feel asked her I was like how do you feel asked her I was like how do you feel about the color brown and she was like about the color brown and she was like about the color brown and she was like yeah like I've really started to embrace yeah like I've really started to embrace yeah like I've really started to embrace it cuz she said that she got some Doc it cuz she said that she got some Doc it cuz she said that she got some Doc Martins that were brown leather and I Martins that were brown leather and I Martins that were brown leather and I was like you know I think we all grew up was like you know I think we all grew up was like you know I think we all grew up afraid of the color brown because our afraid of the color brown because our afraid of the color brown because our parents were afraid of the parents were afraid of the parents were afraid of the 70s right like the 70s were so Brown 70s right like the 70s were so Brown 70s right like the 70s were so Brown that the '90s and 80s were this massive that the '90s and 80s were this massive that the '90s and 80s were this massive correction we like you know we're going correction we like you know we're going correction we like you know we're going to need 20 years where we don't even to need 20 years where we don't even to need 20 years where we don't even touch the color brown and now we're like touch the color brown and now we're like touch the color brown and now we're like wait a minute guys Brown is cool the 20s wait a minute guys Brown is cool the 20s wait a minute guys Brown is cool the 20s have been pretty brown yeah like there's

have been pretty brown yeah like there's have been pretty brown yeah like there's that phrase beige baby you know for like that phrase beige baby you know for like that phrase beige baby you know for like moms who dress their their toddlers and moms who dress their their toddlers and moms who dress their their toddlers and just like brown Earth Tones they're just like brown Earth Tones they're just like brown Earth Tones they're called beige babies okay um do you called beige babies okay um do you called beige babies okay um do you intend on having a beige baby I mean we intend on having a beige baby I mean we intend on having a beige baby I mean we started our firstborn was a beige baby started our firstborn was a beige baby started our firstborn was a beige baby for like three and a half weeks and then for like three and a half weeks and then for like three and a half weeks and then you just realize that he just wants to you just realize that he just wants to you just realize that he just wants to wear Star Wars shirts or like dinosaur wear Star Wars shirts or like dinosaur wear Star Wars shirts or like dinosaur shirts and so you try to resist that as shirts and so you try to resist that as shirts and so you try to resist that as much as you can but Dino dog actually much as you can but Dino dog actually much as you can but Dino dog actually this this morning I this is so funny this this morning I this is so funny this this morning I this is so funny this morning I put him in a beige this morning I put him in a beige this morning I put him in a beige sweatsuit like matching waffle sweatsuit sweatsuit like matching waffle sweatsuit sweatsuit like matching waffle sweatsuit he looked so cute so cozy and I found he looked so cute so cozy and I found he looked so cute so cozy and I found him in his room while I'm trying to get him in his room while I'm trying to get him in his room while I'm trying to get him out the door to daycare cuz I'm him out the door to daycare cuz I'm him out the door to daycare cuz I'm trying to get to work and he is he has trying to get to work and he is he has trying to get to work and he is he has taken his shirt off he's holding this taken his shirt off he's holding this taken his shirt off he's holding this blue Vans shirt he's like no I want to blue Vans shirt he's like no I want to blue Vans shirt he's like no I want to wear this one and so I tried to argue wear this one and so I tried to argue wear this one and so I tried to argue with him once and I'm like I this is not with him once and I'm like I this is not with him once and I'm like I this is not a fight I'm prepared I'm prepared to a fight I'm prepared I'm prepared to a fight I'm prepared I'm prepared to have right now so I said fine you can have right now so I said fine you can have right now so I said fine you can wear the van shirt and then starts wear the van shirt and then starts wear the van shirt and then starts taking his pants off I'm like buddy what taking his pants off I'm like buddy what taking his pants off I'm like buddy what are you doing and he's like well I can't are you doing and he's like well I can't are you doing and he's like well I can't wear these pants cuz it's a matching wear these pants cuz it's a matching wear these pants cuz it's a matching sweatsuit like it goes with the shirt I sweatsuit like it goes with the shirt I sweatsuit like it goes with the shirt I just took off and I I tried to tell him just took off and I I tried to tell him just took off and I I tried to tell him I'm like no it still matches he's like I'm like no it still matches he's like I'm like no it still matches he's like no so we had to put on some black jeans no so we had to put on some black jeans no so we had to put on some black jeans so I tried to go for the beige baby look so I tried to go for the beige baby look so I tried to go for the beige baby look for him for him for him today uh failed attempt but I mean I'm a today uh failed attempt but I mean I'm a today uh failed attempt but I mean I'm a beige baby yeah I've been wearing lots beige baby yeah I've been wearing lots beige baby yeah I've been wearing lots of brown lately yeah absolutely um yeah of brown lately yeah absolutely um yeah of brown lately yeah absolutely um yeah we love to see it and typically we Save we love to see it and typically we Save we love to see it and typically we Save Our sorial advice for later in the show Our sorial advice for later in the show Our sorial advice for later in the show we're getting out of the way costly we're getting out of the way costly we're getting out of the way costly mistakes I made as a Christian leader mistakes I made as a Christian leader mistakes I made as a Christian leader one of them will not bear enough Brown

one of them will not bear enough Brown one of them will not bear enough Brown that was the costly mistake of the that was the costly mistake of the that was the costly mistake of the generation that preceded us uh number generation that preceded us uh number generation that preceded us uh number one neglecting core competencies and I one neglecting core competencies and I one neglecting core competencies and I have three uh mistakes to share with you have three uh mistakes to share with you have three uh mistakes to share with you and these are like big mistakes these and these are like big mistakes these and these are like big mistakes these are I made these mistakes for many are I made these mistakes for many are I made these mistakes for many months many years in some cases not like months many years in some cases not like months many years in some cases not like oh I had this opportunity to X and I oh I had this opportunity to X and I oh I had this opportunity to X and I turned it down and it led to no no no turned it down and it led to no no no turned it down and it led to no no no we're talking about habitual mistakes we're talking about habitual mistakes we're talking about habitual mistakes that I made over and over again the that I made over and over again the that I made over and over again the first neglecting core competencies and first neglecting core competencies and first neglecting core competencies and we have this turn phrase in our we have this turn phrase in our we have this turn phrase in our organization called the Steph Curry organization called the Steph Curry organization called the Steph Curry effect and for the uninitiated in the effect and for the uninitiated in the effect and for the uninitiated in the game of basketball Steph Curry is widely game of basketball Steph Curry is widely game of basketball Steph Curry is widely considered the greatest shooter of the considered the greatest shooter of the considered the greatest shooter of the basketball in human history now Steph basketball in human history now Steph basketball in human history now Steph Curry's dad Dell Curry also played in Curry's dad Dell Curry also played in Curry's dad Dell Curry also played in the NBA EUR a beige baby Steph's a neppo the NBA EUR a beige baby Steph's a neppo the NBA EUR a beige baby Steph's a neppo baby baby baby and that doesn't really apply to and that doesn't really apply to and that doesn't really apply to basketball I suppose but so I remember basketball I suppose but so I remember basketball I suppose but so I remember Dell Curry his dad played for the Dell Curry his dad played for the Dell Curry his dad played for the Toronto Raptors and I would go to games Toronto Raptors and I would go to games Toronto Raptors and I would go to games as a kid and there would be little Steph as a kid and there would be little Steph as a kid and there would be little Steph Curry my age out on the court chucking Curry my age out on the court chucking Curry my age out on the court chucking the ball from three-point range grownup the ball from three-point range grownup the ball from three-point range grownup NBA range just sinking shots as like an NBA range just sinking shots as like an NBA range just sinking shots as like an 8-year-old so you know it runs in the 8-year-old so you know it runs in the 8-year-old so you know it runs in the blood he was gifted this by blood he was gifted this by blood he was gifted this by God Steph Curry though relative to God Steph Curry though relative to God Steph Curry though relative to basketball players is quite small he is basketball players is quite small he is basketball players is quite small he is usually the smallest guy out on the usually the smallest guy out on the usually the smallest guy out on the floor and of course like in all sports floor and of course like in all sports floor and of course like in all sports there are two sides of the ball there is there are two sides of the ball there is there are two sides of the ball there is offense and there is offense and there is offense and there is defense and if you are a really bad

defense and if you are a really bad defense and if you are a really bad Defender it doesn't really matter how Defender it doesn't really matter how Defender it doesn't really matter how great you are on the offensive end we great you are on the offensive end we great you are on the offensive end we see this all the time in basketball you see this all the time in basketball you see this all the time in basketball you just won't get played because you're too just won't get played because you're too just won't get played because you're too much of a vulnerability for the team you much of a vulnerability for the team you much of a vulnerability for the team you get picked on all the time the Raptors get picked on all the time the Raptors get picked on all the time the Raptors have this new player and he's 5 foot have this new player and he's 5 foot have this new player and he's 5 foot eight so he's our height wow and there eight so he's our height wow and there eight so he's our height wow and there was hope for you after all wow doxing was hope for you after all wow doxing was hope for you after all wow doxing our height here on the uh on the show our height here on the uh on the show our height here on the uh on the show not us though we're way taller than that not us though we're way taller than that not us though we're way taller than that yeah I'm 5'8 and a half according to my yeah I'm 5'8 and a half according to my yeah I'm 5'8 and a half according to my doctor doctor doctor so he is extremely talented but he's so so he is extremely talented but he's so so he is extremely talented but he's so small that like as soon as he gets on small that like as soon as he gets on small that like as soon as he gets on the floor they just pick on him now the floor they just pick on him now the floor they just pick on him now Steph is not that short he's six foot Steph is not that short he's six foot Steph is not that short he's six foot something less than five six fo three something less than five six fo three something less than five six fo three something like that but he's very very something like that but he's very very something like that but he's very very scrawny and so what Steph has done is he scrawny and so what Steph has done is he scrawny and so what Steph has done is he has worked on achieving what we call has worked on achieving what we call has worked on achieving what we call Core competency on defense where he's Core competency on defense where he's Core competency on defense where he's never going to be that great at defense never going to be that great at defense never going to be that great at defense he's going to be average at best but so he's going to be average at best but so he's going to be average at best but so long as that weakness or non- strength long as that weakness or non- strength long as that weakness or non- strength of his doesn't take away from what makes of his doesn't take away from what makes of his doesn't take away from what makes him great him great him great that's okay and this was a mistake that that's okay and this was a mistake that that's okay and this was a mistake that I made for the longest time because I I made for the longest time because I I made for the longest time because I was a big proponent of like double down was a big proponent of like double down was a big proponent of like double down on your strengths like this is what on your strengths like this is what on your strengths like this is what we're good at as a company this is what we're good at as a company this is what we're good at as a company this is what I'm good at individually this is what I I'm good at individually this is what I I'm good at individually this is what I excel at professionally we're just going excel at professionally we're just going excel at professionally we're just going to keep going at that and going at that to keep going at that and going at that to keep going at that and going at that and going at that and it took me the and going at that and it took me the and going at that and it took me the longest time to realize that I was longest time to realize that I was longest time to realize that I was neglecting some core competencies in neglecting some core competencies in neglecting some core competencies in areas that I was weak at and I didn't areas that I was weak at and I didn't areas that I was weak at and I didn't have to ever be good at those things but have to ever be good at those things but have to ever be good at those things but so long as I could achieve competency so long as I could achieve competency so long as I could achieve competency there it would actually complement and there it would actually complement and there it would actually complement and enhance my strengths not take away from enhance my strengths not take away from enhance my strengths not take away from it because that's what I was always it because that's what I was always it because that's what I was always worried about like if I'm spending too

worried about like if I'm spending too worried about like if I'm spending too much time on my weaknesses I I should be much time on my weaknesses I I should be much time on my weaknesses I I should be doubling down in my strengths one doubling down in my strengths one doubling down in my strengths one example of this was uh small talk and example of this was uh small talk and example of this was uh small talk and pleasantries I uh I I have this distaste pleasantries I uh I I have this distaste pleasantries I uh I I have this distaste for H niceties okay and so I can come for H niceties okay and so I can come for H niceties okay and so I can come off like a bit cold when we first meet off like a bit cold when we first meet off like a bit cold when we first meet because I'm like yeah like you know because I'm like yeah like you know because I'm like yeah like you know we're just kind of like putting on this we're just kind of like putting on this we're just kind of like putting on this doesn't feel real and I realized that doesn't feel real and I realized that doesn't feel real and I realized that hey you know hey you know hey you know like being a jerk it's just not aligned like being a jerk it's just not aligned like being a jerk it's just not aligned with what you want to achieve in life with what you want to achieve in life with what you want to achieve in life and I didn't think of it that way I was and I didn't think of it that way I was and I didn't think of it that way I was like no I'm just being my most authentic like no I'm just being my most authentic like no I'm just being my most authentic self like I don't want to be fake and I self like I don't want to be fake and I self like I don't want to be fake and I realized no that's a weakness that like realized no that's a weakness that like realized no that's a weakness that like is actually hindering you because you're is actually hindering you because you're is actually hindering you because you're not making a good first impression and not making a good first impression and not making a good first impression and if you could just find a way to be if you could just find a way to be if you could just find a way to be pleasant with people and still be pleasant with people and still be pleasant with people and still be authentic don't do it in a way that is authentic don't do it in a way that is authentic don't do it in a way that is in congruent with your personality and in congruent with your personality and in congruent with your personality and who you who you really are achieve core who you who you really are achieve core who you who you really are achieve core compet didn't see there and then you compet didn't see there and then you compet didn't see there and then you know be good at other things one more know be good at other things one more know be good at other things one more example of this is uh endurance so I example of this is uh endurance so I example of this is uh endurance so I used to have like what I called this used to have like what I called this used to have like what I called this creative window in the morning and it creative window in the morning and it creative window in the morning and it was like 5: to 8 a.m. and then I was was like 5: to 8 a.m. and then I was was like 5: to 8 a.m. and then I was basically creatively useless for the basically creatively useless for the basically creatively useless for the rest of the day and what I realized was rest of the day and what I realized was rest of the day and what I realized was like I was like this Sprinter that just like I was like this Sprinter that just like I was like this Sprinter that just had no endurance in like creativity and had no endurance in like creativity and had no endurance in like creativity and the reason was I was you know eating too the reason was I was you know eating too the reason was I was you know eating too much junk food not getting enough sleep much junk food not getting enough sleep much junk food not getting enough sleep not walking enough uh and not recovering not walking enough uh and not recovering not walking enough uh and not recovering from my workouts but I was like no I'm from my workouts but I was like no I'm from my workouts but I was like no I'm getting lots of protein I'm working out getting lots of protein I'm working out getting lots of protein I'm working out like I'm doing great but I was actually

like I'm doing great but I was actually like I'm doing great but I was actually not in good recovery whatsoever and so not in good recovery whatsoever and so not in good recovery whatsoever and so then I wasn't able to do what I do best then I wasn't able to do what I do best then I wasn't able to do what I do best for long periods of time and so suddenly for long periods of time and so suddenly for long periods of time and so suddenly my output was stunted artificially my output was stunted artificially my output was stunted artificially because I had this core competence it's because I had this core competence it's because I had this core competence it's like hey you need to recover from all like hey you need to recover from all like hey you need to recover from all these other things the Paradox is these other things the Paradox is these other things the Paradox is because I wasn't recovering I thought I because I wasn't recovering I thought I because I wasn't recovering I thought I was giving it my all like I'm I'm I'm was giving it my all like I'm I'm I'm was giving it my all like I'm I'm I'm leaving the tank empty I have nothing leaving the tank empty I have nothing leaving the tank empty I have nothing left to give and then you have like left to give and then you have like left to give and then you have like prolonged several months in a row and prolonged several months in a row and prolonged several months in a row and this is the problem with like anything this is the problem with like anything this is the problem with like anything health or Fitness related like you can't health or Fitness related like you can't health or Fitness related like you can't do a short test you can't do a 21 day 21 do a short test you can't do a 21 day 21 do a short test you can't do a 21 day 21 test it has to be 3 months or more you test it has to be 3 months or more you test it has to be 3 months or more you eat well you recover well you prioritize eat well you recover well you prioritize eat well you recover well you prioritize sleep you go on boring walks every day sleep you go on boring walks every day sleep you go on boring walks every day and suddenly you're like oh my tank is and suddenly you're like oh my tank is and suddenly you're like oh my tank is not depleting at the normal time it's not depleting at the normal time it's not depleting at the normal time it's extending longer and longer longer I'm extending longer and longer longer I'm extending longer and longer longer I'm not coming home and crashing now I'm not coming home and crashing now I'm not coming home and crashing now I'm able to be with my family and be a good able to be with my family and be a good able to be with my family and be a good dad core competency where did this first dad core competency where did this first dad core competency where did this first come up for you like where did you where come up for you like where did you where come up for you like where did you where did you first recognize in your own life did you first recognize in your own life did you first recognize in your own life like oh I've been investing too much like oh I've been investing too much like oh I've been investing too much concentrated energy into my area of concentrated energy into my area of concentrated energy into my area of strength and not um you know cultivating strength and not um you know cultivating strength and not um you know cultivating core competency in areas where I'm not core competency in areas where I'm not core competency in areas where I'm not as strong it was uh my business partners as strong it was uh my business partners as strong it was uh my business partners we were having one of our annual Summits we were having one of our annual Summits we were having one of our annual Summits and they were like hey why don't we try and they were like hey why don't we try and they were like hey why don't we try this new thing and I was like well we this new thing and I was like well we this new thing and I was like well we don't do that and they're like well at don't do that and they're like well at don't do that and they're like well at our old company we did and I was like our old company we did and I was like our old company we did and I was like well this is your new well this is your new well this is your new company and they're like well it worked

company and they're like well it worked company and they're like well it worked for us and I was like but you're here for us and I was like but you're here for us and I was like but you're here now and what they helped me realize was now and what they helped me realize was now and what they helped me realize was that okay just because we try something that okay just because we try something that okay just because we try something doesn't mean it has to detract because doesn't mean it has to detract because doesn't mean it has to detract because I've always pictured it as like okay we I've always pictured it as like okay we I've always pictured it as like okay we have limited resources and churches will have limited resources and churches will have limited resources and churches will resonate with this and there's something resonate with this and there's something resonate with this and there's something true here which is what makes it such a true here which is what makes it such a true here which is what makes it such a challenging thing and why these mistakes challenging thing and why these mistakes challenging thing and why these mistakes are made is because they're not like are made is because they're not like are made is because they're not like completely like obvious errors they're completely like obvious errors they're completely like obvious errors they're little nuanced differences that you little nuanced differences that you little nuanced differences that you could explain away in a rational manner could explain away in a rational manner could explain away in a rational manner that would be completely understandable that would be completely understandable that would be completely understandable to you and your business partners and to you and your business partners and to you and your business partners and anyone they're like we can try these anyone they're like we can try these anyone they're like we can try these things and it won't detract from what things and it won't detract from what things and it won't detract from what makes us who we are already and once I makes us who we are already and once I makes us who we are already and once I understood that I was able to come up understood that I was able to come up understood that I was able to come up with the Steph Curry analogy you know with the Steph Curry analogy you know with the Steph Curry analogy you know all I needed was a little Sports analogy all I needed was a little Sports analogy all I needed was a little Sports analogy because you know I'm actually not that because you know I'm actually not that because you know I'm actually not that smart and that was what helped uh click smart and that was what helped uh click smart and that was what helped uh click for me hey we can do these things keep for me hey we can do these things keep for me hey we can do these things keep doing doing these things and that will doing doing these things and that will doing doing these things and that will actually again enhance what we do best actually again enhance what we do best actually again enhance what we do best because right now it's taking away from because right now it's taking away from because right now it's taking away from it and and and that really is the Crux it and and and that really is the Crux it and and and that really is the Crux of it core competency just means you hit of it core competency just means you hit of it core competency just means you hit the point where your weakness is no the point where your weakness is no the point where your weakness is no longer a detraction from your strength I longer a detraction from your strength I longer a detraction from your strength I don't think it's a coincidence that this don't think it's a coincidence that this don't think it's a coincidence that this first came up for you in the context of first came up for you in the context of first came up for you in the context of like Teamwork because like when you like Teamwork because like when you like Teamwork because like when you think about Steph Curry if he is not think about Steph Curry if he is not think about Steph Curry if he is not competent in his defense as when he's competent in his defense as when he's competent in his defense as when he's got the ball in his hand and he's uh in got the ball in his hand and he's uh in got the ball in his hand and he's uh in the offensive court that that would not the offensive court that that would not the offensive court that that would not come up he's not a liability there but come up he's not a liability there but come up he's not a liability there but it's when the the ball is in the hands it's when the the ball is in the hands it's when the the ball is in the hands of the other team and he is now working

of the other team and he is now working of the other team and he is now working as a defensive unit with a team where as a defensive unit with a team where as a defensive unit with a team where that liability comes up um you know when that liability comes up um you know when that liability comes up um you know when I was thinking about core competency for I was thinking about core competency for I was thinking about core competency for me and where that has come up in my life me and where that has come up in my life me and where that has come up in my life I thought about my my career as a speed I thought about my my career as a speed I thought about my my career as a speed swimmer so I used to be a speed swimmer swimmer so I used to be a speed swimmer swimmer so I used to be a speed swimmer and I coach speed swimming in in another and I coach speed swimming in in another and I coach speed swimming in in another life and there's this one so a lot of life and there's this one so a lot of life and there's this one so a lot of speed swimming races are individual but speed swimming races are individual but speed swimming races are individual but there are a couple um that are called there are a couple um that are called there are a couple um that are called relays where you you swim with the team relays where you you swim with the team relays where you you swim with the team with three other swimmers and there's with three other swimmers and there's with three other swimmers and there's one relay where you swim all four one relay where you swim all four one relay where you swim all four strokes back breast fly and free and for strokes back breast fly and free and for strokes back breast fly and free and for me like Freestyle or frun crawly that's me like Freestyle or frun crawly that's me like Freestyle or frun crawly that's my that is my stroke it is my preferred my that is my stroke it is my preferred my that is my stroke it is my preferred stroke and it's my strongest stroke I stroke and it's my strongest stroke I stroke and it's my strongest stroke I have I have I have a really efficient have I have I have a really efficient have I have I have a really efficient really quick um freestyle and the really quick um freestyle and the really quick um freestyle and the backstroke is my my least efficient backstroke is my my least efficient backstroke is my my least efficient stroke but when you come so when I'm stroke but when you come so when I'm stroke but when you come so when I'm racing individually I can you can select racing individually I can you can select racing individually I can you can select what races you want to race I never race what races you want to race I never race what races you want to race I never race individual backstroke but when you come individual backstroke but when you come individual backstroke but when you come into a relay situation you bring all the into a relay situation you bring all the into a relay situation you bring all the strengths of three other swimmers so strengths of three other swimmers so strengths of three other swimmers so four swimmers into the room some are four swimmers into the room some are four swimmers into the room some are older some are younger some have older some are younger some have older some are younger some have different body types and in some cases different body types and in some cases different body types and in some cases although freestyle is my strongest although freestyle is my strongest although freestyle is my strongest stroke when you bring in three other stroke when you bring in three other stroke when you bring in three other swimmers maybe it's not the strongest swimmers maybe it's not the strongest swimmers maybe it's not the strongest out of the four and so if it's not the out of the four and so if it's not the out of the four and so if it's not the strongest out of the four well then strongest out of the four well then strongest out of the four well then someone else is going to swim freestyle someone else is going to swim freestyle someone else is going to swim freestyle I have to swim another stroke and if I'm I have to swim another stroke and if I'm I have to swim another stroke and if I'm just cultivating my freestyle and not just cultivating my freestyle and not just cultivating my freestyle and not working on my backstroke or my butterfly working on my backstroke or my butterfly working on my backstroke or my butterfly like butterfly why is that even a like butterfly why is that even a like butterfly why is that even a swimming why does anyone do that motion swimming why does anyone do that motion swimming why does anyone do that motion with their body doesn't even the naming with their body doesn't even the naming with their body doesn't even the naming front back free but butterfly oh okay oh front back free but butterfly oh okay oh front back free but butterfly oh okay oh yeah front back free elephant stroke H

yeah front back free elephant stroke H yeah front back free elephant stroke H it's got to be the least efficient way it's got to be the least efficient way it's got to be the least efficient way to move your body through the water and to move your body through the water and to move your body through the water and somehow we decided it's one of the four somehow we decided it's one of the four somehow we decided it's one of the four ways we will race um it's like like was ways we will race um it's like like was ways we will race um it's like like was a sick joke at some point um but if I a sick joke at some point um but if I a sick joke at some point um but if I don't cultivate one of my weaker Strokes don't cultivate one of my weaker Strokes don't cultivate one of my weaker Strokes when I come into a team setting now all when I come into a team setting now all when I come into a team setting now all of a sudden I become a liability if I am of a sudden I become a liability if I am of a sudden I become a liability if I am just racing my individual Strokes while just racing my individual Strokes while just racing my individual Strokes while I don't check off backstroke I'm not I don't check off backstroke I'm not I don't check off backstroke I'm not raising backstroke I'm a liability to no raising backstroke I'm a liability to no raising backstroke I'm a liability to no one I can compete in my my Lane my my one I can compete in my my Lane my my one I can compete in my my Lane my my area of strength which is front crawl um area of strength which is front crawl um area of strength which is front crawl um but all of a sudden I'm in a I'm in a but all of a sudden I'm in a I'm in a but all of a sudden I'm in a I'm in a team setting and now if I have neglected team setting and now if I have neglected team setting and now if I have neglected areas where I am not innately strong areas where I am not innately strong areas where I am not innately strong well now I'm a liability to my team and well now I'm a liability to my team and well now I'm a liability to my team and so I think this comes up a lot in the so I think this comes up a lot in the so I think this comes up a lot in the context of teamwork or uh collaboration context of teamwork or uh collaboration context of teamwork or uh collaboration work whether it's with uh uh Team of work whether it's with uh uh Team of work whether it's with uh uh Team of leaders or staff at church or even in leaders or staff at church or even in leaders or staff at church or even in your own family you know you're your own family you know you're your own family you know you're functionally at home you're you're a functionally at home you're you're a functionally at home you're you're a team you're working towards uh goals team you're working towards uh goals team you're working towards uh goals together and so this comes up at home together and so this comes up at home together and so this comes up at home between a marital relationship or even between a marital relationship or even between a marital relationship or even as a unit with kids and such um so yeah as a unit with kids and such um so yeah as a unit with kids and such um so yeah in my reflection of this it seems that in my reflection of this it seems that in my reflection of this it seems that that these liabilities uh really do come that these liabilities uh really do come that these liabilities uh really do come up in the context of teamwork in a way up in the context of teamwork in a way up in the context of teamwork in a way that that they don't if you're just kind that that they don't if you're just kind that that they don't if you're just kind of on your own doing your own thing yeah of on your own doing your own thing yeah of on your own doing your own thing yeah that team context is uh is really that team context is uh is really that team context is uh is really profound I don't I don't think I ever profound I don't I don't think I ever profound I don't I don't think I ever really even considered that there you really even considered that there you really even considered that there you go uh costy mistake number two go uh costy mistake number two go uh costy mistake number two self-awareness gone too far self-awareness gone too far self-awareness gone too far you're saying you can be too self-aware you're saying you can be too self-aware you're saying you can be too self-aware I I am I apparently because I I didn't I I am I apparently because I I didn't I I am I apparently because I I didn't know there was a limit to this and know there was a limit to this and know there was a limit to this and evidently there is at least for me uh evidently there is at least for me uh evidently there is at least for me uh one of my most popular Instagram posts

one of my most popular Instagram posts one of my most popular Instagram posts is titled why I never became a pastor is titled why I never became a pastor is titled why I never became a pastor where I talk about how I went to Bible where I talk about how I went to Bible where I talk about how I went to Bible College uh to be a student pastor and I College uh to be a student pastor and I College uh to be a student pastor and I got my degree in Theology and youth got my degree in Theology and youth got my degree in Theology and youth ministry um and you know yet I am not a ministry um and you know yet I am not a ministry um and you know yet I am not a pastor why and the big reason that I pastor why and the big reason that I pastor why and the big reason that I cite in that post is that as a young cite in that post is that as a young cite in that post is that as a young young 20s something I didn't have the young 20s something I didn't have the young 20s something I didn't have the relational bandwidth to really serve relational bandwidth to really serve relational bandwidth to really serve those kids well I was interning with a those kids well I was interning with a those kids well I was interning with a youth pastor and I just saw like how youth pastor and I just saw like how youth pastor and I just saw like how much he would need to be like available much he would need to be like available much he would need to be like available to them and how many of his week nights to them and how many of his week nights to them and how many of his week nights were consumed like not with youth group were consumed like not with youth group were consumed like not with youth group but with like oh I need to go see one of but with like oh I need to go see one of but with like oh I need to go see one of them play hockey one of them just like them play hockey one of them just like them play hockey one of them just like broke up with their boyfriend and needs broke up with their boyfriend and needs broke up with their boyfriend and needs like you know some help whatever it like you know some help whatever it like you know some help whatever it might be and I was newly married at the might be and I was newly married at the might be and I was newly married at the time and I was like in school and I was time and I was like in school and I was time and I was like in school and I was like I just I I don't I don't know how I like I just I I don't I don't know how I like I just I I don't I don't know how I I I don't I won't be able to be like a I I don't I won't be able to be like a I I don't I won't be able to be like a husband and do this like I I someone's husband and do this like I I someone's husband and do this like I I someone's going to suffer and it won't be work going to suffer and it won't be work going to suffer and it won't be work it'll probably be like my new marriage it'll probably be like my new marriage it'll probably be like my new marriage okay I I have to consider something else okay I I have to consider something else okay I I have to consider something else that's a healthy level of self-awareness that's a healthy level of self-awareness that's a healthy level of self-awareness I wasn't that person in that I wasn't that person in that I wasn't that person in that moment self-awareness gone too far is moment self-awareness gone too far is moment self-awareness gone too far is when I say this is who I will always when I say this is who I will always when I say this is who I will always be and the way I articulated is be and the way I articulated is be and the way I articulated is self-awareness is meant to be a self-awareness is meant to be a self-awareness is meant to be a recognition of who you are not a recognition of who you are not a recognition of who you are not a definition of who you are and cuz the definition of who you are and cuz the definition of who you are and cuz the jokes on me I now manage dozens of jokes on me I now manage dozens of jokes on me I now manage dozens of employees and at any point they might employees and at any point they might employees and at any point they might slack me and be like we need to talk and

slack me and be like we need to talk and slack me and be like we need to talk and they do and I they do and I they do and I go go go oh and the Lord goes yeah yeah and the oh and the Lord goes yeah yeah and the oh and the Lord goes yeah yeah and the nice thing and I've always said this nice thing and I've always said this nice thing and I've always said this about the company that I run which you about the company that I run which you about the company that I run which you know uh more than 20 people I have to know uh more than 20 people I have to know uh more than 20 people I have to like like like manage is that that the slope of the manage is that that the slope of the manage is that that the slope of the company's growth has been gradual I company's growth has been gradual I company's growth has been gradual I didn't just jump into you know being a didn't just jump into you know being a didn't just jump into you know being a youth pastor oh there's 32 kids and you youth pastor oh there's 32 kids and you youth pastor oh there's 32 kids and you know they're all extremely um in need of know they're all extremely um in need of know they're all extremely um in need of your guidance and spiritual care it was your guidance and spiritual care it was your guidance and spiritual care it was me just me and then there was just me me just me and then there was just me me just me and then there was just me and Mitch and there was just me Mitch and Mitch and there was just me Mitch and Mitch and there was just me Mitch and Jonas and then roxan and then and Jonas and then roxan and then and Jonas and then roxan and then Tristan and then and then BR and then Tristan and then and then BR and then Tristan and then and then BR and then Tristan and then Alex and then Kyle and Tristan and then Alex and then Kyle and Tristan and then Alex and then Kyle and then Ryland and then all the others and then Ryland and then all the others and then Ryland and then all the others and so every time I added someone new so every time I added someone new so every time I added someone new I would stretch just a little bit more I would stretch just a little bit more I would stretch just a little bit more and it's kind of like you know an and it's kind of like you know an and it's kind of like you know an elastic elastic elastic band the elastic band can be stretched band the elastic band can be stretched band the elastic band can be stretched if you stretch it too far too fast it'll if you stretch it too far too fast it'll if you stretch it too far too fast it'll snap if you keep gradually expanding it snap if you keep gradually expanding it snap if you keep gradually expanding it it will grow in its capacity where you it will grow in its capacity where you it will grow in its capacity where you can expand it more and more and more so can expand it more and more and more so can expand it more and more and more so that belief that or even not a belie that belief that or even not a belie that belief that or even not a belie that recognition that I don't have the that recognition that I don't have the that recognition that I don't have the relational bandwidth for this was true relational bandwidth for this was true relational bandwidth for this was true but that wasn't true if I worked at it I but that wasn't true if I worked at it I but that wasn't true if I worked at it I could grow in that way and the could grow in that way and the could grow in that way and the self-awareness I was like I'm so self-awareness I was like I'm so self-awareness I was like I'm so self-aware I'm just so like you know self-aware I'm just so like you know self-aware I'm just so like you know some people they're just they don't some people they're just they don't some people they're just they don't really know right they have these blind really know right they have these blind really know right they have these blind spots it's just it's it's ignorant spots it's just it's it's ignorant spots it's just it's it's ignorant really it's it's childish it's you know really it's it's childish it's you know really it's it's childish it's you know infancy actually I am an evolved being

infancy actually I am an evolved being infancy actually I am an evolved being yeah and it was that same self-awareness yeah and it was that same self-awareness yeah and it was that same self-awareness that was putting a limit on myself so that was putting a limit on myself so that was putting a limit on myself so the solution here is to recognize who the solution here is to recognize who the solution here is to recognize who you are now but to acknowledge that who you are now but to acknowledge that who you are now but to acknowledge that who you are now is not who you will always you are now is not who you will always you are now is not who you will always be you will change and it's up to you if be you will change and it's up to you if be you will change and it's up to you if that change is self self-directed or that change is self self-directed or that change is self self-directed or directed by your everchanging directed by your everchanging directed by your everchanging circumstances and that is really the key circumstances and that is really the key circumstances and that is really the key let's say you acknowledge something in let's say you acknowledge something in let's say you acknowledge something in your life right now hey this is not who your life right now hey this is not who your life right now hey this is not who I am and really all I'm asking here for I am and really all I'm asking here for I am and really all I'm asking here for everyone listening and watching is to be everyone listening and watching is to be everyone listening and watching is to be open to the fact that one day you might open to the fact that one day you might open to the fact that one day you might think differently you might live think differently you might live think differently you might live differently you might be a different differently you might be a different differently you might be a different person here's a great example of this person here's a great example of this person here's a great example of this the holy Hunter big buck hunting the holy Hunter big buck hunting the holy Hunter big buck hunting Bishop 3 years ago was like Bishop 3 years ago was like Bishop 3 years ago was like I'm going to shoot deer with an arrow I'm going to shoot deer with an arrow I'm going to shoot deer with an arrow and I was like what this is even more and I was like what this is even more and I was like what this is even more surprising than when you told me you surprising than when you told me you surprising than when you told me you were a competitive speed swimmer in were a competitive speed swimmer in were a competitive speed swimmer in another life and I was like dude like another life and I was like dude like another life and I was like dude like why would you hunt like why would you hunt like why would you hunt like gross and I was like I don't understand gross and I was like I don't understand gross and I was like I don't understand this hunting thing man like you're this hunting thing man like you're this hunting thing man like you're killing animals like yeah I know I eat killing animals like yeah I know I eat killing animals like yeah I know I eat meat but like I don't want to see that meat but like I don't want to see that meat but like I don't want to see that that's uh that's gross whatever man do that's uh that's gross whatever man do that's uh that's gross whatever man do you and then earlier this year I'm you and then earlier this year I'm you and then earlier this year I'm reading this book and oh jokes on me reading this book and oh jokes on me reading this book and oh jokes on me again again again it's by a hunter and at the end of the it's by a hunter and at the end of the it's by a hunter and at the end of the book I'm like wow hunting is cool and I book I'm like wow hunting is cool and I book I'm like wow hunting is cool and I was saying this I was saying this to was saying this I was saying this to was saying this I was saying this to Alex the other day I was like oh I was Alex the other day I was like oh I was Alex the other day I was like oh I was having this like talk with my business having this like talk with my business having this like talk with my business partner and one day he was like hey man partner and one day he was like hey man partner and one day he was like hey man what about this great idea and I was what about this great idea and I was what about this great idea and I was like I had that idea and he's like well like I had that idea and he's like well like I had that idea and he's like well I read a book and it was in there and I read a book and it was in there and I read a book and it was in there and now I believe it I was like why didn't

now I believe it I was like why didn't now I believe it I was like why didn't you just believe me and he's like I you just believe me and he's like I you just believe me and he's like I don't know man I needed to hear it in don't know man I needed to hear it in don't know man I needed to hear it in the book and I was like it's true of all the book and I was like it's true of all the book and I was like it's true of all of us like I'm listening to this book of us like I'm listening to this book of us like I'm listening to this book about hunting I was like Wow hunting is about hunting I was like Wow hunting is about hunting I was like Wow hunting is great I could totally see myself doing great I could totally see myself doing great I could totally see myself doing this and my best friend's like yeah but this and my best friend's like yeah but this and my best friend's like yeah but I was already doing this and I was like I was already doing this and I was like I was already doing this and I was like yeah but that was different and I was yeah but that was different and I was yeah but that was different and I was listening to a finance book that was listening to a finance book that was listening to a finance book that was like this and it said what you want and like this and it said what you want and like this and it said what you want and need financially in 10 years is need financially in 10 years is need financially in 10 years is unknowable right now he's like let's say unknowable right now he's like let's say unknowable right now he's like let's say you're a 25-year-old and right now you're a 25-year-old and right now you're a 25-year-old and right now you're like oh yeah I just want fast you're like oh yeah I just want fast you're like oh yeah I just want fast cars it's like when you're 35 you might cars it's like when you're 35 you might cars it's like when you're 35 you might be like I really just want a good home be like I really just want a good home be like I really just want a good home when you're 45 you might be like I when you're 45 you might be like I when you're 45 you might be like I really should be planning for retirement really should be planning for retirement really should be planning for retirement and when you're 55 you might be like I and when you're 55 you might be like I and when you're 55 you might be like I really want to travel and it will change really want to travel and it will change really want to travel and it will change for different people and it might follow for different people and it might follow for different people and it might follow follow like that like cliche trajectory follow like that like cliche trajectory follow like that like cliche trajectory or it might be completely different but or it might be completely different but or it might be completely different but the point is what you want right now is the point is what you want right now is the point is what you want right now is almost certainly different or not the almost certainly different or not the almost certainly different or not the full picture of what you'll want and full picture of what you'll want and full picture of what you'll want and need in 10 years so you need to behave need in 10 years so you need to behave need in 10 years so you need to behave now as if you don't know what's upcoming now as if you don't know what's upcoming now as if you don't know what's upcoming and this requires this really different and this requires this really different and this requires this really different view of self-awareness in this context view of self-awareness in this context view of self-awareness in this context because you need to identify the things because you need to identify the things because you need to identify the things in you that are true you need be able to in you that are true you need be able to in you that are true you need be able to examine yourself and acknowledge this is examine yourself and acknowledge this is examine yourself and acknowledge this is who I am this is what I'm good at this who I am this is what I'm good at this who I am this is what I'm good at this is what I'm weak at and then also is what I'm weak at and then also is what I'm weak at and then also acknowledge that it is fluid Ever acknowledge that it is fluid Ever acknowledge that it is fluid Ever Changing if you can do that you are now Changing if you can do that you are now Changing if you can do that you are now in control you're directing everything in control you're directing everything in control you're directing everything all these moving pieces cuz all these all these moving pieces cuz all these all these moving pieces cuz all these moving pieces are there I think the moving pieces are there I think the moving pieces are there I think the problem was I was like there are no

problem was I was like there are no problem was I was like there are no movie pieces I am a movie pieces I am a movie pieces I am a constant no there are all these movie constant no there are all these movie constant no there are all these movie pieces and if you're not aware of that pieces and if you're not aware of that pieces and if you're not aware of that you don't get to direct those pieces you don't get to direct those pieces you don't get to direct those pieces they're going to direct themselves and they're going to direct themselves and they're going to direct themselves and then one day you'll wake up and you'll then one day you'll wake up and you'll then one day you'll wake up and you'll be like oh my goodness what happened be like oh my goodness what happened be like oh my goodness what happened well isn't that like like isn't that well isn't that like like isn't that well isn't that like like isn't that kind of meta in the way that we're kind of meta in the way that we're kind of meta in the way that we're talking about three leadership mistakes talking about three leadership mistakes talking about three leadership mistakes that you can only see in hindsight but that you can only see in hindsight but that you can only see in hindsight but you have since acknowledged and now you have since acknowledged and now you have since acknowledged and now learned from and so now we can talk learned from and so now we can talk learned from and so now we can talk about them and say like I was making about them and say like I was making about them and say like I was making this mistake and now I'm not I was 25 this mistake and now I'm not I was 25 this mistake and now I'm not I was 25 once doing this thing and now I'm I'm 32 once doing this thing and now I'm I'm 32 once doing this thing and now I'm I'm 32 and I'm not and have the self awar and I'm not and have the self awar and I'm not and have the self awar awareness enough to say like I'm also awareness enough to say like I'm also awareness enough to say like I'm also making mistakes right now that that I'm making mistakes right now that that I'm making mistakes right now that that I'm not aware of that in seven years when we not aware of that in seven years when we not aware of that in seven years when we record this podcast like man when we record this podcast like man when we record this podcast like man when we were when we were 30 self awareness were when we were 30 self awareness were when we were 30 self awareness cannot go too far it's impossible yeah I cannot go too far it's impossible yeah I cannot go too far it's impossible yeah I mean mean mean like as a pastor it's I can recognize like as a pastor it's I can recognize like as a pastor it's I can recognize how it can be challenging to to hold how it can be challenging to to hold how it can be challenging to to hold this intention because when folks look this intention because when folks look this intention because when folks look to you to you to you as a voice of Spiritual Authority it can as a voice of Spiritual Authority it can as a voice of Spiritual Authority it can be a hard thing to stand up there at the be a hard thing to stand up there at the be a hard thing to stand up there at the pulpit and acknowledge that like I don't pulpit and acknowledge that like I don't pulpit and acknowledge that like I don't know what I don't know or like today I know what I don't know or like today I know what I don't know or like today I believe this but it's POS possible that believe this but it's POS possible that believe this but it's POS possible that tomorrow I may not and that's an uneasy tomorrow I may not and that's an uneasy tomorrow I may not and that's an uneasy thing to say if if you don't take a thing to say if if you don't take a thing to say if if you don't take a moment to to like I don't know analyze moment to to like I don't know analyze moment to to like I don't know analyze it but I can't get up there and pretend it but I can't get up there and pretend it but I can't get up there and pretend that so I'm 30 I've been preaching for that so I'm 30 I've been preaching for that so I'm 30 I've been preaching for for 10 years I can't get up there and for 10 years I can't get up there and for 10 years I can't get up there and pretend that like I believe everything

pretend that like I believe everything pretend that like I believe everything that I believed when I was 20 and so if that I believed when I was 20 and so if that I believed when I was 20 and so if it's okay for me to have changed over it's okay for me to have changed over it's okay for me to have changed over the last 10 years then it's surely okay the last 10 years then it's surely okay the last 10 years then it's surely okay for me to stand up there today and for me to stand up there today and for me to stand up there today and acknowledge that like I believe this acknowledge that like I believe this acknowledge that like I believe this today but I'm open to to evolving over today but I'm open to to evolving over today but I'm open to to evolving over the next five or 10 years and that's I the next five or 10 years and that's I the next five or 10 years and that's I mean thank God for the guiding story of mean thank God for the guiding story of mean thank God for the guiding story of Jesus and like the message of Grace Jesus and like the message of Grace Jesus and like the message of Grace which is like we're we're in constant which is like we're we're in constant which is like we're we're in constant progression of moving from glory to progression of moving from glory to progression of moving from glory to glory and and it's all Grace and glory and and it's all Grace and glory and and it's all Grace and so in all the ways that that we have so in all the ways that that we have so in all the ways that that we have made mistakes or even in the ways that made mistakes or even in the ways that made mistakes or even in the ways that you and I are in air right now that we you and I are in air right now that we you and I are in air right now that we can't see the ways we're living in sin can't see the ways we're living in sin can't see the ways we're living in sin unknowingly yeah it's like we it's all unknowingly yeah it's like we it's all unknowingly yeah it's like we it's all Grace and and we grow one day at a time Grace and and we grow one day at a time Grace and and we grow one day at a time and and it takes a real measure of and and it takes a real measure of and and it takes a real measure of mindfulness and humility of course to be mindfulness and humility of course to be mindfulness and humility of course to be self-aware to try self-aware to try self-aware to try and look at your own life from an and look at your own life from an and look at your own life from an objective perspective that requires objective perspective that requires objective perspective that requires having like asking things of people having like asking things of people having like asking things of people asking questions and having asking questions and having asking questions and having conversations with people and saying conversations with people and saying conversations with people and saying like hey do you see something in me like hey do you see something in me like hey do you see something in me right now that like I can't see and right now that like I can't see and right now that like I can't see and Having the courage to like listen to Having the courage to like listen to Having the courage to like listen to them and believe them if they say like them and believe them if they say like them and believe them if they say like hey you know I'm seeing a b or c and and hey you know I'm seeing a b or c and and hey you know I'm seeing a b or c and and and that needs to be reformed or and that needs to be reformed or and that needs to be reformed or whatever whatever whatever um but yeah who knows maybe maybe in 10 um but yeah who knows maybe maybe in 10 um but yeah who knows maybe maybe in 10 years we we'll re revisit this and say years we we'll re revisit this and say years we we'll re revisit this and say that there is no limit to self-awareness that there is no limit to self-awareness that there is no limit to self-awareness it's it's it's uh it's I I heard it said that we fight uh it's I I heard it said that we fight uh it's I I heard it said that we fight the biggest fights over the smallest

the biggest fights over the smallest the biggest fights over the smallest differences and I think that's true in differences and I think that's true in differences and I think that's true in the church world and I think what the the church world and I think what the the church world and I think what the error is when we do that in light of error is when we do that in light of error is when we do that in light of what we discussed uh in light of what we what we discussed uh in light of what we what we discussed uh in light of what we we just discussed because like the we just discussed because like the we just discussed because like the smallest details are the things that smallest details are the things that smallest details are the things that like you could end up flipping like you could end up flipping like you could end up flipping on and yet those are the things that on and yet those are the things that on and yet those are the things that like we want to hold on to the tightest like we want to hold on to the tightest like we want to hold on to the tightest and we want to like stand on our Soap and we want to like stand on our Soap and we want to like stand on our Soap Box the most and fight the most over and Box the most and fight the most over and Box the most and fight the most over and we see this like in denominational we see this like in denominational we see this like in denominational differen like do you believe Jesus is differen like do you believe Jesus is differen like do you believe Jesus is Christ resurrected yes okay do you Christ resurrected yes okay do you Christ resurrected yes okay do you believe tongues are the initial evidence believe tongues are the initial evidence believe tongues are the initial evidence no well then you can't be a pastor oh no well then you can't be a pastor oh no well then you can't be a pastor oh wow okay that that seems like a small wow okay that that seems like a small wow okay that that seems like a small distinction to really put all of our distinction to really put all of our distinction to really put all of our weight behind but hey okay uh you have weight behind but hey okay uh you have weight behind but hey okay uh you have to hold those things more Loosely but we to hold those things more Loosely but we to hold those things more Loosely but we can still like major on the majors and can still like major on the majors and can still like major on the majors and that and what really this has led me to that and what really this has led me to that and what really this has led me to is okay like what are the things that is okay like what are the things that is okay like what are the things that I'm super confident in and at the end of I'm super confident in and at the end of I'm super confident in and at the end of the day like sometimes all it is is like the day like sometimes all it is is like the day like sometimes all it is is like ah Jesus that's all some some days like ah Jesus that's all some some days like ah Jesus that's all some some days like at the very end of the day like after a at the very end of the day like after a at the very end of the day like after a hard work day and a hard family day and hard work day and a hard family day and hard work day and a hard family day and a hard like personal day for whatever a hard like personal day for whatever a hard like personal day for whatever reason and then like you know I lose in reason and then like you know I lose in reason and then like you know I lose in fantasy football like oh right I they'll fantasy football like oh right I they'll fantasy football like oh right I they'll just send you right over the other just send you right over the other just send you right over the other things I can figure it out but you get a things I can figure it out but you get a things I can figure it out but you get a message from me in slack that says we message from me in slack that says we message from me in slack that says we need to talk yeah it's like wow oh no need to talk yeah it's like wow oh no need to talk yeah it's like wow oh no gosh see the trauma there and then on gosh see the trauma there and then on gosh see the trauma there and then on those days you're like you know what all those days you're like you know what all those days you're like you know what all it is is Jesus that's all there is and it is is Jesus that's all there is and it is is Jesus that's all there is and and that's enough for today costly and that's enough for today costly and that's enough for today costly mistake number three this is the Bader mistake number three this is the Bader mistake number three this is the Bader mhof phenomenon would you pronounce b a

mhof phenomenon would you pronounce b a mhof phenomenon would you pronounce b a a d e r Bader or batter I mean I would a d e r Bader or batter I mean I would a d e r Bader or batter I mean I would pronounce a Bader I'm not confident to pronounce a Bader I'm not confident to pronounce a Bader I'm not confident to say that that's right thankfully there's say that that's right thankfully there's say that that's right thankfully there's another term it's called frequency another term it's called frequency another term it's called frequency illusion okay and this is a cognitive illusion okay and this is a cognitive illusion okay and this is a cognitive bias that affects how we think and bias that affects how we think and bias that affects how we think and process information it's a phenomenon process information it's a phenomenon process information it's a phenomenon where something you recently learned where something you recently learned where something you recently learned seems to appear everywhere making it seems to appear everywhere making it seems to appear everywhere making it feel like it's more common than it feel like it's more common than it feel like it's more common than it actually is classic you want to buy actually is classic you want to buy actually is classic you want to buy that's you want to buy a new Jeep the that's you want to buy a new Jeep the that's you want to buy a new Jeep the car is the one so pumped up about that car is the one so pumped up about that car is the one so pumped up about that black Jeep and then every day from now black Jeep and then every day from now black Jeep and then every day from now until I don't know you get the Jeep or until I don't know you get the Jeep or until I don't know you get the Jeep or now until Infinity you will just notice now until Infinity you will just notice now until Infinity you will just notice the Myriad of black Jeeps that are on the Myriad of black Jeeps that are on the Myriad of black Jeeps that are on the road everyone wants this black Jeep the road everyone wants this black Jeep the road everyone wants this black Jeep because they all have them I'm seeing because they all have them I'm seeing because they all have them I'm seeing them everywhere and everyone has one but them everywhere and everyone has one but them everywhere and everyone has one but me yes no more black Jeeps have me yes no more black Jeeps have me yes no more black Jeeps have manifested on the roads than there were manifested on the roads than there were manifested on the roads than there were before but it's just it has your before but it's just it has your before but it's just it has your attention now right and what that means attention now right and what that means attention now right and what that means is you and I do not have an accurate is you and I do not have an accurate is you and I do not have an accurate picture our perspective is not inherent picture our perspective is not inherent picture our perspective is not inherent yes it actually like a camera lens is yes it actually like a camera lens is yes it actually like a camera lens is deciding what to focus on and is putting deciding what to focus on and is putting deciding what to focus on and is putting that in focus and because we see that that in focus and because we see that that in focus and because we see that thing clearly we're like that is the thing clearly we're like that is the thing clearly we're like that is the truth even though what is behind it is truth even though what is behind it is truth even though what is behind it is just as real and if you just change the just as real and if you just change the just as real and if you just change the focus it would put that other thing in focus it would put that other thing in focus it would put that other thing in Clear View and not what you're looking Clear View and not what you're looking Clear View and not what you're looking at right now which would then warp again at right now which would then warp again at right now which would then warp again your perception of reality right here is your perception of reality right here is your perception of reality right here is how this messed me up in the context of how this messed me up in the context of how this messed me up in the context of Discovery algorithms okay there was a Discovery algorithms okay there was a Discovery algorithms okay there was a season of Life maybe two years ago now

season of Life maybe two years ago now season of Life maybe two years ago now or two yeah two years ago where I like or two yeah two years ago where I like or two yeah two years ago where I like was seeing more and more like was seeing more and more like was seeing more and more like anti- work type tweets I I don't even anti- work type tweets I I don't even anti- work type tweets I I don't even know how to phrase this it was basically know how to phrase this it was basically know how to phrase this it was basically like you know what work is bad and all like you know what work is bad and all like you know what work is bad and all companies are bad it was the pandemic companies are bad it was the pandemic companies are bad it was the pandemic all right we were all very sad like what all right we were all very sad like what all right we were all very sad like what if we just didn't work and I was like if we just didn't work and I was like if we just didn't work and I was like interesting what a novel idea and I interesting what a novel idea and I interesting what a novel idea and I don't even know how to really properly don't even know how to really properly don't even know how to really properly articulate this but over the months what articulate this but over the months what articulate this but over the months what I noticed was it was kind of like I noticed was it was kind of like I noticed was it was kind of like infecting my work ethic infecting my work ethic infecting my work ethic where I was just becom more lazy so I'm where I was just becom more lazy so I'm where I was just becom more lazy so I'm not even trying to say that not even trying to say that not even trying to say that like that like that like that specific vein of politics is something I specific vein of politics is something I specific vein of politics is something I disagree with or agree with I I don't disagree with or agree with I I don't disagree with or agree with I I don't even think that's what's important what even think that's what's important what even think that's what's important what matters is how it was impacting me and I matters is how it was impacting me and I matters is how it was impacting me and I was like oh okay I need to go in and was like oh okay I need to go in and was like oh okay I need to go in and make some changes and I I did and I make some changes and I I did and I make some changes and I I did and I stopped like you know seeing those stopped like you know seeing those stopped like you know seeing those tweets and I was like work is good tweets and I was like work is good tweets and I was like work is good and this is like what I came to realize and this is like what I came to realize and this is like what I came to realize with discovery algor GMS you will see with discovery algor GMS you will see with discovery algor GMS you will see something again and again because you something again and again because you something again and again because you watch it which will then make you think watch it which will then make you think watch it which will then make you think that it's more common in real life than that it's more common in real life than that it's more common in real life than it actually is here's a better example it actually is here's a better example it actually is here's a better example this past summer there was like this this past summer there was like this this past summer there was like this person that jumped in a still pool of person that jumped in a still pool of person that jumped in a still pool of water example and then got like a brain water example and then got like a brain water example and then got like a brain amoeba and died and everyone on Tik Tok amoeba and died and everyone on Tik Tok amoeba and died and everyone on Tik Tok saw this video because it was scary and

saw this video because it was scary and saw this video because it was scary and so Tik Tok was like people hate scary so Tik Tok was like people hate scary so Tik Tok was like people hate scary things but they'll watch them we're things but they'll watch them we're things but they'll watch them we're going to show it to them and then we going to show it to them and then we going to show it to them and then we were all like oh my goodness you can't were all like oh my goodness you can't were all like oh my goodness you can't jump in water there's brain amoeba and jump in water there's brain amoeba and jump in water there's brain amoeba and you will die and it took a couple you will die and it took a couple you will die and it took a couple doctors getting on there be like no doctors getting on there be like no doctors getting on there be like no there was actually like 15 different there was actually like 15 different there was actually like 15 different variables that would have had to variables that would have had to variables that would have had to contribute to this in terms of like contribute to this in terms of like contribute to this in terms of like bodies of water it would be like a one bodies of water it would be like a one bodies of water it would be like a one in a million chance otherwise you in a million chance otherwise you in a million chance otherwise you wouldn't have heard this for the first wouldn't have heard this for the first wouldn't have heard this for the first time someone dying of a brain amoeba time someone dying of a brain amoeba time someone dying of a brain amoeba jumping into water but because we saw it jumping into water but because we saw it jumping into water but because we saw it so frequently and because we saw Bad so frequently and because we saw Bad so frequently and because we saw Bad actors that were like actually yeah actors that were like actually yeah actors that were like actually yeah finally we're talking about this I hate finally we're talking about this I hate finally we're talking about this I hate when someone on Tik Tok like finally when someone on Tik Tok like finally when someone on Tik Tok like finally we're talking about this like no you we're talking about this like no you we're talking about this like no you know stop jumping on the uh the bad know stop jumping on the uh the bad know stop jumping on the uh the bad train and so frequency illusion you see train and so frequency illusion you see train and so frequency illusion you see something more often than it is it something more often than it is it something more often than it is it impacts and warps your reality into impacts and warps your reality into impacts and warps your reality into believing something is actually more believing something is actually more believing something is actually more common that shapes how you see the world common that shapes how you see the world common that shapes how you see the world how you see the world shapes your how you see the world shapes your how you see the world shapes your actions and behaviors how your actions and behaviors how your actions and behaviors how your behaviors uh what behaviors you have behaviors uh what behaviors you have behaviors uh what behaviors you have that shapes your reality and like the that shapes your reality and like the that shapes your reality and like the outcomes in your life and so something outcomes in your life and so something outcomes in your life and so something as simple as oh wow I see here's another as simple as oh wow I see here's another as simple as oh wow I see here's another example I'm just going to give you a example I'm just going to give you a example I'm just going to give you a million examples I'm not going to let million examples I'm not going to let million examples I'm not going to let Alex talk Alex talk Alex talk yeah people can't make music yeah people can't make music yeah people can't make music anymore why anymore why anymore why because every person that makes music because every person that makes music because every person that makes music uses uses uses autotune why because someone used autotune why because someone used autotune why because someone used autotune once and when I say autotune I autotune once and when I say autotune I autotune once and when I say autotune I don't mean T Pain autotune mean pitch don't mean T Pain autotune mean pitch don't mean T Pain autotune mean pitch correction and Perfection when you now correction and Perfection when you now correction and Perfection when you now hear a regular human singing one of the hear a regular human singing one of the hear a regular human singing one of the best they actually sound bad because best they actually sound bad because best they actually sound bad because we've only heard Perfect Pitch for 20

we've only heard Perfect Pitch for 20 we've only heard Perfect Pitch for 20 years and it wasn't always like that but years and it wasn't always like that but years and it wasn't always like that but once one person used perfect pitch once one person used perfect pitch once one person used perfect pitch everyone kind of had to use Perfect everyone kind of had to use Perfect everyone kind of had to use Perfect Pitch because it wasn't really fair and Pitch because it wasn't really fair and Pitch because it wasn't really fair and you would just not succeed in that you would just not succeed in that you would just not succeed in that landscape landscape landscape Boys in movies are now roughly 300% more Boys in movies are now roughly 300% more Boys in movies are now roughly 300% more jacked than they were 25 years ago if jacked than they were 25 years ago if jacked than they were 25 years ago if you look at like the hunks even like on you look at like the hunks even like on you look at like the hunks even like on bayat like the boys on bayat it's like bayat like the boys on bayat it's like bayat like the boys on bayat it's like oh okay so he has a dad bought it's like oh okay so he has a dad bought it's like oh okay so he has a dad bought it's like no that was not the reality this long no that was not the reality this long no that was not the reality this long ago but now we only see Juiced up Marvel ago but now we only see Juiced up Marvel ago but now we only see Juiced up Marvel Superstars and we think like okay that Superstars and we think like okay that Superstars and we think like okay that is what you're supposed to look like and is what you're supposed to look like and is what you're supposed to look like and all the women listening are like yes all the women listening are like yes all the women listening are like yes it's been like that way forever for us it's been like that way forever for us it's been like that way forever for us you dummy and I apologize you know again you dummy and I apologize you know again you dummy and I apologize you know again my warped reality I can only see like my warped reality I can only see like my warped reality I can only see like barie one specific thing frequency barie one specific thing frequency barie one specific thing frequency illusion man it's messing everything up illusion man it's messing everything up illusion man it's messing everything up well so then what are you what are you well so then what are you what are you well so then what are you what are you supposed to do like especially in the supposed to do like especially in the supposed to do like especially in the context of Discovery algorithms because context of Discovery algorithms because context of Discovery algorithms because so much like if we all were to take so much like if we all were to take so much like if we all were to take stock of how much media we consume on a stock of how much media we consume on a stock of how much media we consume on a daily basis comparatively to like any daily basis comparatively to like any daily basis comparatively to like any other input I think we'd all be both other input I think we'd all be both other input I think we'd all be both shocked and appalled um like it's just shocked and appalled um like it's just shocked and appalled um like it's just it it really it it really it it really is like a shocking volume of short form is like a shocking volume of short form is like a shocking volume of short form videos and ads on YouTube and like just videos and ads on YouTube and like just videos and ads on YouTube and like just stuff we're inputting and so I guess stuff we're inputting and so I guess stuff we're inputting and so I guess that's the question is like in in a that's the question is like in in a that's the question is like in in a world where most of the media we consume world where most of the media we consume world where most of the media we consume on social media at least is being served on social media at least is being served on social media at least is being served To Us by an algorithm that is designed To Us by an algorithm that is designed To Us by an algorithm that is designed to leverage this very thing like oh you

to leverage this very thing like oh you to leverage this very thing like oh you watched a video about a brain amoeba watched a video about a brain amoeba watched a video about a brain amoeba well you're the next one's going to be well you're the next one's going to be well you're the next one's going to be about that and then the third one's about that and then the third one's about that and then the third one's going to be about that and the Seven going to be about that and the Seven going to be about that and the Seven one's going to be about that in a world one's going to be about that in a world one's going to be about that in a world where we're being served media in like where we're being served media in like where we're being served media in like this this this unnatural way how do we combat like this unnatural way how do we combat like this unnatural way how do we combat like this this phenomenon of like this frequency this phenomenon of like this frequency this phenomenon of like this frequency illusion that convinces us that illusion that convinces us that illusion that convinces us that things whether they are things to be things whether they are things to be things whether they are things to be afraid of or things to be concerned of afraid of or things to be concerned of afraid of or things to be concerned of or whatever are are more common than or whatever are are more common than or whatever are are more common than they actually are like how do we push they actually are like how do we push they actually are like how do we push back against that yeah so what I have back against that yeah so what I have back against that yeah so what I have done is I have just implemented a done is I have just implemented a done is I have just implemented a heightened level of skepticism anytime I heightened level of skepticism anytime I heightened level of skepticism anytime I see something see something see something new there's just like a an extra sniff new there's just like a an extra sniff new there's just like a an extra sniff test that I'm just like I'm not going to test that I'm just like I'm not going to test that I'm just like I'm not going to accept this just because it seems on the accept this just because it seems on the accept this just because it seems on the surface accurate yes it's polished yes surface accurate yes it's polished yes surface accurate yes it's polished yes it seems to be well cited yes it seems it seems to be well cited yes it seems it seems to be well cited yes it seems to be true but I'm just going to hold to be true but I'm just going to hold to be true but I'm just going to hold that Bel this new information that I've that Bel this new information that I've that Bel this new information that I've received a little bit less tightly received a little bit less tightly received a little bit less tightly because I've had it enough times where I because I've had it enough times where I because I've had it enough times where I have been like duped by something and in have been like duped by something and in have been like duped by something and in the world of deep fakes and Ai and the world of deep fakes and Ai and the world of deep fakes and Ai and everything that we're about to kind of everything that we're about to kind of everything that we're about to kind of go through the next five years this is go through the next five years this is go through the next five years this is going to become that much more important going to become that much more important going to become that much more important so just kind of that healthy level of so just kind of that healthy level of so just kind of that healthy level of like Baseline like Baseline like Baseline skepticism which isn't how I would skepticism which isn't how I would skepticism which isn't how I would prefer to live but I think is a prefer to live but I think is a prefer to live but I think is a necessary adaptation in the media necessary adaptation in the media necessary adaptation in the media climate that we exist in the second climate that we exist in the second climate that we exist in the second thing is to have trusted sources of thing is to have trusted sources of thing is to have trusted sources of information that you basically fact

information that you basically fact information that you basically fact check against the new sources of check against the new sources of check against the new sources of information that you've heard which is information that you've heard which is information that you've heard which is you know really ironic because before you know really ironic because before you know really ironic because before the internet existed and The Gatekeepers the internet existed and The Gatekeepers the internet existed and The Gatekeepers were removed and silly boys like you and were removed and silly boys like you and were removed and silly boys like you and I could jump on a podcast and just chat I could jump on a podcast and just chat I could jump on a podcast and just chat and people would listen be like wow they and people would listen be like wow they and people would listen be like wow they have good lighting they must know what have good lighting they must know what have good lighting they must know what they're talking about you would have they're talking about you would have they're talking about you would have trusted sources of information that had trusted sources of information that had trusted sources of information that had rules of Journalism that had to be rules of Journalism that had to be rules of Journalism that had to be abided by like oh if the you know news abided by like oh if the you know news abided by like oh if the you know news Outlet in the local area publishes this Outlet in the local area publishes this Outlet in the local area publishes this that it was by a credible journalist and that it was by a credible journalist and that it was by a credible journalist and they had to go through certain things they had to go through certain things they had to go through certain things you know in the most simplest version of you know in the most simplest version of you know in the most simplest version of this I'll use another Sports analogy in this I'll use another Sports analogy in this I'll use another Sports analogy in sports you have these people that break sports you have these people that break sports you have these people that break the news on transactions so they're like the news on transactions so they're like the news on transactions so they're like Kevin Durant is changing teams once Kevin Durant is changing teams once Kevin Durant is changing teams once again what they also have is because again what they also have is because again what they also have is because there are no Gatekeepers a bunch of there are no Gatekeepers a bunch of there are no Gatekeepers a bunch of copycats who are like sources tell me copycats who are like sources tell me copycats who are like sources tell me Kevin Kevin Durant's changing teams Kevin Kevin Durant's changing teams Kevin Kevin Durant's changing teams again and they'll always have that again and they'll always have that again and they'll always have that information first why because they don't information first why because they don't information first why because they don't follow the same protocol that the big follow the same protocol that the big follow the same protocol that the big ones that work for ESPN have to so for ones that work for ESPN have to so for ones that work for ESPN have to so for instance it's it's common within ESPN or instance it's it's common within ESPN or instance it's it's common within ESPN or these types of outlets to be like you these types of outlets to be like you these types of outlets to be like you can't run a story unless you've had two can't run a story unless you've had two can't run a story unless you've had two or three different independent sources or three different independent sources or three different independent sources claim the same thing so you would need claim the same thing so you would need claim the same thing so you would need to have the player himself someone close to have the player himself someone close to have the player himself someone close to him a trusted Source say something to him a trusted Source say something to him a trusted Source say something and the team also say the same thing and the team also say the same thing and the team also say the same thing before you can go to the news with it before you can go to the news with it before you can go to the news with it right but some guy on Twitter doesn't right but some guy on Twitter doesn't right but some guy on Twitter doesn't need any of those checks and balances oh need any of those checks and balances oh need any of those checks and balances oh I heard from Dam's camp that the heat I heard from Dam's camp that the heat I heard from Dam's camp that the heat deal is done he's definitely going there deal is done he's definitely going there deal is done he's definitely going there whereas you know W or Shams wouldn't go

whereas you know W or Shams wouldn't go whereas you know W or Shams wouldn't go with that until had more kind of the with that until had more kind of the with that until had more kind of the same thing here where we've now come to same thing here where we've now come to same thing here where we've now come to the point where The Gatekeepers were the point where The Gatekeepers were the point where The Gatekeepers were removed which is great anyone could removed which is great anyone could removed which is great anyone could publish maybe some of the downfall of publish maybe some of the downfall of publish maybe some of the downfall of that is that anyone can publish and so that is that anyone can publish and so that is that anyone can publish and so it can be done where you can be duped it can be done where you can be duped it can be done where you can be duped and you can have misinformation uh rise and you can have misinformation uh rise and you can have misinformation uh rise to the point where it's to the point where it's to the point where it's untrustworthy I also recognize that some untrustworthy I also recognize that some untrustworthy I also recognize that some people are like yeah but like what about people are like yeah but like what about people are like yeah but like what about when the New York Times did this what when the New York Times did this what when the New York Times did this what about when this news Outlet did this about when this news Outlet did this about when this news Outlet did this like they're not 100% trustworthy either like they're not 100% trustworthy either like they're not 100% trustworthy either and it's not about anyone being being and it's not about anyone being being and it's not about anyone being being inerrant it's about just higher inerrant it's about just higher inerrant it's about just higher standards being upheld in you know these standards being upheld in you know these standards being upheld in you know these bigger Outlets than in Independent Media bigger Outlets than in Independent Media bigger Outlets than in Independent Media and I think both can serve their place and I think both can serve their place and I think both can serve their place but I'm just going to have a little bit but I'm just going to have a little bit but I'm just going to have a little bit of healthy skepticism I'm then going to of healthy skepticism I'm then going to of healthy skepticism I'm then going to identify trusted sources of information identify trusted sources of information identify trusted sources of information and cross reference it and then the and cross reference it and then the and cross reference it and then the final piece of the puzzle is not final piece of the puzzle is not final piece of the puzzle is not centering myself in the narrative and centering myself in the narrative and centering myself in the narrative and this is because clearly I am I am this is because clearly I am I am this is because clearly I am I am fallible I am I am errant okay I am fallible I am I am errant okay I am fallible I am I am errant okay I am putting myself in the center of my putting myself in the center of my putting myself in the center of my worldview which is not something any worldview which is not something any worldview which is not something any human on earth is doing except me and human on earth is doing except me and human on earth is doing except me and you're doing the same thing for you and you're doing the same thing for you and you're doing the same thing for you and no one else is doing it but you at the no one else is doing it but you at the no one else is doing it but you at the center of Alex's worldview is Alex and center of Alex's worldview is Alex and center of Alex's worldview is Alex and him and I have to actively work to push him and I have to actively work to push him and I have to actively work to push ourselves out of the center and in ourselves out of the center and in ourselves out of the center and in individual instances put other people individual instances put other people individual instances put other people there in a global instance put Jesus there in a global instance put Jesus there in a global instance put Jesus there because our perception is flawed there because our perception is flawed there because our perception is flawed our perception is fallible and so we our perception is fallible and so we our perception is fallible and so we have to put in the best one that we have

have to put in the best one that we have have to put in the best one that we have of course our perception of Jesus is FLW of course our perception of Jesus is FLW of course our perception of Jesus is FLW and our perception of Jesus is fallible and our perception of Jesus is fallible and our perception of Jesus is fallible and our interpretation of scripture is and our interpretation of scripture is and our interpretation of scripture is imperfect and so there is no perfect imperfect and so there is no perfect imperfect and so there is no perfect solution but if we have this combination solution but if we have this combination solution but if we have this combination of new information with some healthy of new information with some healthy of new information with some healthy skepticism cross referenced with some skepticism cross referenced with some skepticism cross referenced with some trusted sources of information working trusted sources of information working trusted sources of information working to not Center myself and to put Jesus in to not Center myself and to put Jesus in to not Center myself and to put Jesus in the center at all times okay I'll the center at all times okay I'll the center at all times okay I'll probably now misstep less frequently MH probably now misstep less frequently MH probably now misstep less frequently MH yeah we talk a lot about digital hygiene yeah we talk a lot about digital hygiene yeah we talk a lot about digital hygiene uh on the show and at this company and uh on the show and at this company and uh on the show and at this company and just how to navigate the online World in just how to navigate the online World in just how to navigate the online World in a way that promotes Health in our own a way that promotes Health in our own a way that promotes Health in our own personal lives and the lives of those personal lives and the lives of those personal lives and the lives of those who are under our influence and and I who are under our influence and and I who are under our influence and and I think that's what this is all about think that's what this is all about think that's what this is all about because what you're describing um you because what you're describing um you because what you're describing um you know having that that initial know having that that initial know having that that initial like uh bit of healthy skepticism and like uh bit of healthy skepticism and like uh bit of healthy skepticism and then working to like like um citing and then working to like like um citing and then working to like like um citing and and ingesting trusted sources of and ingesting trusted sources of and ingesting trusted sources of information or they're new sources or information or they're new sources or information or they're new sources or you know uh NBA reporters or whatever you know uh NBA reporters or whatever you know uh NBA reporters or whatever like that takes real mindfulness and in like that takes real mindfulness and in like that takes real mindfulness and in some cases it takes a lot of work it's a some cases it takes a lot of work it's a some cases it takes a lot of work it's a lot easier just to get on on Twitter and lot easier just to get on on Twitter and lot easier just to get on on Twitter and like open the faucet and just like like open the faucet and just like like open the faucet and just like ingest everything that's coming down you ingest everything that's coming down you ingest everything that's coming down you know so it takes a lot of work to to not know so it takes a lot of work to to not know so it takes a lot of work to to not be emotionally reactive and instead be emotionally reactive and instead be emotionally reactive and instead employ some some skepticism and it also employ some some skepticism and it also employ some some skepticism and it also takes work to like mine out what a takes work to like mine out what a takes work to like mine out what a trusted news source looks like what a trusted news source looks like what a trusted news source looks like what a trusted source of information looks like trusted source of information looks like trusted source of information looks like that's what I love so much about Twitter that's what I love so much about Twitter that's what I love so much about Twitter and we've talked about this uh when when and we've talked about this uh when when and we've talked about this uh when when when Twitter was acquired and seemed to

when Twitter was acquired and seemed to when Twitter was acquired and seemed to be imploding and threads was on the be imploding and threads was on the be imploding and threads was on the scene like one thing about the thought scene like one thing about the thought scene like one thing about the thought of losing Twitter that was of losing Twitter that was of losing Twitter that was so uh Troublesome to me was like I have so uh Troublesome to me was like I have so uh Troublesome to me was like I have curated a curated a curated a really good list in my estimation of really good list in my estimation of really good list in my estimation of like sources of information on my like sources of information on my like sources of information on my Twitter feed and now they've introduced Twitter feed and now they've introduced Twitter feed and now they've introduced the for you feed and it's like a bit of the for you feed and it's like a bit of the for you feed and it's like a bit of my curation but mostly just like my curation but mostly just like my curation but mostly just like strangers who are posting about stuff strangers who are posting about stuff strangers who are posting about stuff that I'm interested in but people I that I'm interested in but people I that I'm interested in but people I don't know so I don't trust them so like don't know so I don't trust them so like don't know so I don't trust them so like the thing that's going on in Israel and the thing that's going on in Israel and the thing that's going on in Israel and Gaza and Palestine right now is a Gaza and Palestine right now is a Gaza and Palestine right now is a perfect example Rebecca i' I've perfect example Rebecca i' I've perfect example Rebecca i' I've mentioned is kind of unplugged from mentioned is kind of unplugged from mentioned is kind of unplugged from popular culture online and but she's popular culture online and but she's popular culture online and but she's aware of what's going on so she asked me aware of what's going on so she asked me aware of what's going on so she asked me the other day she's like can you help me the other day she's like can you help me the other day she's like can you help me out here and I'm like well I can out here and I'm like well I can out here and I'm like well I can try but on Twitter the information and try but on Twitter the information and try but on Twitter the information and the the volume of sources and um the the volume of sources and um the the volume of sources and um unreliability of those sources is so unreliability of those sources is so unreliability of those sources is so much that I have actually not been able much that I have actually not been able much that I have actually not been able to to form my own opinion about what I to to form my own opinion about what I to to form my own opinion about what I believe is what's happening because I believe is what's happening because I believe is what's happening because I just don't know who to believe and so just don't know who to believe and so just don't know who to believe and so I've said to Rebecca like I can tell you I've said to Rebecca like I can tell you I've said to Rebecca like I can tell you what I perceive to be happening but like what I perceive to be happening but like what I perceive to be happening but like I cannot speak to this with any I cannot speak to this with any I cannot speak to this with any Authority because I I can't discern what Authority because I I can't discern what Authority because I I can't discern what is true and what is not what is right is true and what is not what is right is true and what is not what is right and what is wrong and that takes a lot and what is wrong and that takes a lot and what is wrong and that takes a lot of and I'm not trying to give myself of and I'm not trying to give myself of and I'm not trying to give myself credit but I'm just saying that takes a credit but I'm just saying that takes a credit but I'm just saying that takes a lot of work and a measure of humility to lot of work and a measure of humility to lot of work and a measure of humility to be able to do that because the other be able to do that because the other be able to do that because the other option is is for me to react to what I'm

option is is for me to react to what I'm option is is for me to react to what I'm seeing online and say well oh I I I saw seeing online and say well oh I I I saw seeing online and say well oh I I I saw someone say this about what Israel did someone say this about what Israel did someone say this about what Israel did or I saw someone this say this about or I saw someone this say this about or I saw someone this say this about what Hamas did can you believe this and what Hamas did can you believe this and what Hamas did can you believe this and just like regurgitate that and react in just like regurgitate that and react in just like regurgitate that and react in that way because it's striking a court that way because it's striking a court that way because it's striking a court emotionally but that's not that's not emotionally but that's not that's not emotionally but that's not that's not mindful that's not slow or patient or um mindful that's not slow or patient or um mindful that's not slow or patient or um thoughtful in any way so what we're what thoughtful in any way so what we're what thoughtful in any way so what we're what we're saying here and and and I think to we're saying here and and and I think to we're saying here and and and I think to answer that question like how do we do answer that question like how do we do answer that question like how do we do this unfortunately requires work this unfortunately requires work this unfortunately requires work requires like patience and requires like patience and requires like patience and thoughtfulness and mindfulness which thoughtfulness and mindfulness which thoughtfulness and mindfulness which those are scarce Commodities nowadays those are scarce Commodities nowadays those are scarce Commodities nowadays but I think that's what it requires but I think that's what it requires but I think that's what it requires to I guess to push back against these to I guess to push back against these to I guess to push back against these invisible algorithms that are banking on invisible algorithms that are banking on invisible algorithms that are banking on us reacting totally differently to the us reacting totally differently to the us reacting totally differently to the media that they're serving to us well media that they're serving to us well media that they're serving to us well and the more that these algorithms are and the more that these algorithms are and the more that these algorithms are around the more that we become familiar around the more that we become familiar around the more that we become familiar with them the more that we can use them with them the more that we can use them with them the more that we can use them for our advantage to go back to kind of for our advantage to go back to kind of for our advantage to go back to kind of that Sports analogy you usually have two that Sports analogy you usually have two that Sports analogy you usually have two parties you have the team and you have parties you have the team and you have parties you have the team and you have the player in these like negotiations the player in these like negotiations the player in these like negotiations and then you have these journalists that and then you have these journalists that and then you have these journalists that are basically like telling the world are basically like telling the world are basically like telling the world what's happening and typically the what's happening and typically the what's happening and typically the journalist will either have a good journalist will either have a good journalist will either have a good relationship with the player or the team relationship with the player or the team relationship with the player or the team right but not both and different right but not both and different right but not both and different journalists will have different uh journalists will have different uh journalists will have different uh relationships and so what the NBA sports relationships and so what the NBA sports relationships and so what the NBA sports world has come to terms with is they now world has come to terms with is they now world has come to terms with is they now are filtering what a journalist will say are filtering what a journalist will say are filtering what a journalist will say with the understanding that they have a with the understanding that they have a with the understanding that they have a relationship with the team and not the relationship with the team and not the relationship with the team and not the player and so they might have the player and so they might have the player and so they might have the incentive to shape this favorably incentive to shape this favorably incentive to shape this favorably towards the team which isn't it's not towards the team which isn't it's not towards the team which isn't it's not untrue per se but it's shaped in a

untrue per se but it's shaped in a untrue per se but it's shaped in a certain way so we've seen this you know certain way so we've seen this you know certain way so we've seen this you know weeks ago now with the Israel and weeks ago now with the Israel and weeks ago now with the Israel and Palestine conflict where it's like hey Palestine conflict where it's like hey Palestine conflict where it's like hey this bad thing happened who said well this bad thing happened who said well this bad thing happened who said well Israel Israel Israel said but the other side says this said but the other side says this said but the other side says this happened and can we trust the footage is happened and can we trust the footage is happened and can we trust the footage is it it it doctored like how do you actually know doctored like how do you actually know doctored like how do you actually know and then you'll be like okay you hear and then you'll be like okay you hear and then you'll be like okay you hear like oh the US has been in they've been like oh the US has been in they've been like oh the US has been in they've been talking with uh you know with their talking with uh you know with their talking with uh you know with their intelligence and they've been figuring intelligence and they've been figuring intelligence and they've been figuring out we've been analyzing the frames and out we've been analyzing the frames and out we've been analyzing the frames and trying to identify like it's not even trying to identify like it's not even trying to identify like it's not even just frequency illusion now it's just frequency illusion now it's just frequency illusion now it's actually like no no I'm seeing this actually like no no I'm seeing this actually like no no I'm seeing this thing and I can't even trust that what I thing and I can't even trust that what I thing and I can't even trust that what I see is actually real and we're still a see is actually real and we're still a see is actually real and we're still a few years away from like what the few years away from like what the few years away from like what the Fallout of that is going to be maybe Fallout of that is going to be maybe Fallout of that is going to be maybe more than a few more than a few more than a few years I am very curious to see how it years I am very curious to see how it years I am very curious to see how it goes um I have some ideas on like what goes um I have some ideas on like what goes um I have some ideas on like what might come from it like the idea that I might come from it like the idea that I might come from it like the idea that I keep coming back to is like an keep coming back to is like an keep coming back to is like an independent agency or even a government independent agency or even a government independent agency or even a government agency depending on the country that you agency depending on the country that you agency depending on the country that you live in that like Works to verify like live in that like Works to verify like live in that like Works to verify like oh this creator has been proven to never oh this creator has been proven to never oh this creator has been proven to never use any doctored imagery has to use use any doctored imagery has to use use any doctored imagery has to use never AI or uses AI according to like never AI or uses AI according to like never AI or uses AI according to like we're probably going to have like a we're probably going to have like a we're probably going to have like a worldwide Forum you know like the Paris worldwide Forum you know like the Paris worldwide Forum you know like the Paris Accords with climate change but for AI Accords with climate change but for AI Accords with climate change but for AI oh they they follow the principles in oh they they follow the principles in oh they they follow the principles in here and so anything that you see from here and so anything that you see from here and so anything that you see from this Outlet or from this Creator they this Outlet or from this Creator they this Outlet or from this Creator they have been independently verified and have been independently verified and have been independently verified and they have earned like the mark that they have earned like the mark that they have earned like the mark that allows you to trust them for X Y and Z allows you to trust them for X Y and Z allows you to trust them for X Y and Z like we might get to that point which is like we might get to that point which is like we might get to that point which is like the advanced version of what was like the advanced version of what was like the advanced version of what was once the verified tick on Twitter that

once the verified tick on Twitter that once the verified tick on Twitter that meant something M now I have one so it meant something M now I have one so it meant something M now I have one so it means nothing I mean we when when means nothing I mean we when when means nothing I mean we when when Photoshop generative Phil came out the Photoshop generative Phil came out the Photoshop generative Phil came out the the AI that just kind of lets you insert the AI that just kind of lets you insert the AI that just kind of lets you insert anything into an image in Photoshop that anything into an image in Photoshop that anything into an image in Photoshop that was awesome we were celebrating that we was awesome we were celebrating that we was awesome we were celebrating that we were using it we were playing with it we were using it we were playing with it we were using it we were playing with it we were actually using it for like were actually using it for like were actually using it for like publishing stuff it was great and then a publishing stuff it was great and then a publishing stuff it was great and then a couple weeks ago they announced oh yeah couple weeks ago they announced oh yeah couple weeks ago they announced oh yeah uh generator Phil coming to premere for uh generator Phil coming to premere for uh generator Phil coming to premere for video and in the office we were like no video and in the office we were like no video and in the office we were like no this cannot this is not because video is this cannot this is not because video is this cannot this is not because video is serves as as a real record of truth serves as as a real record of truth serves as as a real record of truth especially on the internet if you can especially on the internet if you can especially on the internet if you can see it in a video it's like well that's see it in a video it's like well that's see it in a video it's like well that's that's proof enough and I am I am so I that's proof enough and I am I am so I that's proof enough and I am I am so I I'm not nervous about much uh my hope is I'm not nervous about much uh my hope is I'm not nervous about much uh my hope is is not in in really anything that I can is not in in really anything that I can is not in in really anything that I can see here and now but I'm am really see here and now but I'm am really see here and now but I'm am really nervous about video no longer being a nervous about video no longer being a nervous about video no longer being a record of Truth in a digital age just record of Truth in a digital age just record of Truth in a digital age just like well then what what can we believe like well then what what can we believe like well then what what can we believe in so I think your your idea your in so I think your your idea your in so I think your your idea your hypothesis about some sort of agency hypothesis about some sort of agency hypothesis about some sort of agency like that is probably is like that is probably is like that is probably is probably will eventually become probably will eventually become probably will eventually become necessary which is a strange world to necessary which is a strange world to necessary which is a strange world to imagine yeah like we had to invent imagine yeah like we had to invent imagine yeah like we had to invent trademarks kind of for a similar reason trademarks kind of for a similar reason trademarks kind of for a similar reason ah this is my company name this is my ah this is my company name this is my ah this is my company name this is my company name okay someone needs to have company name okay someone needs to have company name okay someone needs to have like ownership over this to prove like like ownership over this to prove like like ownership over this to prove like this is the thing and it has been proven this is the thing and it has been proven this is the thing and it has been proven that this is the thing and so I don't that this is the thing and so I don't that this is the thing and so I don't think there's no historical precedent think there's no historical precedent think there's no historical precedent for it I think the challenge is like for it I think the challenge is like for it I think the challenge is like well how do you verify it and how do you well how do you verify it and how do you well how do you verify it and how do you know it's true and what happens when the know it's true and what happens when the know it's true and what happens when the first news Outlet oh no the Wall Street first news Outlet oh no the Wall Street first news Outlet oh no the Wall Street Journal accidentally published something Journal accidentally published something Journal accidentally published something and they didn't go through the proper

and they didn't go through the proper and they didn't go through the proper channels to verify it before going live channels to verify it before going live channels to verify it before going live and will this be uh damaging to the like and will this be uh damaging to the like and will this be uh damaging to the like first to print reality that we live in first to print reality that we live in first to print reality that we live in like no no everything's going to have to like no no everything's going to have to like no no everything's going to have to be a bit slower because we're going to be a bit slower because we're going to be a bit slower because we're going to have to go through X number of have to go through X number of have to go through X number of additional steps to verify it and then additional steps to verify it and then additional steps to verify it and then that's definitely not incentivized in that's definitely not incentivized in that's definitely not incentivized in the current climate that would come at the current climate that would come at the current climate that would come at Great cost so then might might you have Great cost so then might might you have Great cost so then might might you have like the news Breakers that can't be like the news Breakers that can't be like the news Breakers that can't be trusted but always get it first and the trusted but always get it first and the trusted but always get it first and the ones that can't be trusted that always ones that can't be trusted that always ones that can't be trusted that always get it last it's like on Election night get it last it's like on Election night get it last it's like on Election night where it's like you know like the the where it's like you know like the the where it's like you know like the the reputable ones are always last to call reputable ones are always last to call reputable ones are always last to call out but the first one is like hey the out but the first one is like hey the out but the first one is like hey the first one is the first one and if they first one is the first one and if they first one is the first one and if they get it wrong like hopefully not but get it wrong like hopefully not but get it wrong like hopefully not but anyway man we're all anyway man we're all anyway man we're all screwed hopefully these costum mistakes screwed hopefully these costum mistakes screwed hopefully these costum mistakes as a Christian leader hey that was for as a Christian leader hey that was for as a Christian leader hey that was for the last 10 years for the next 10 years the last 10 years for the next 10 years the last 10 years for the next 10 years we're going to have brand new mistakes we're going to have brand new mistakes we're going to have brand new mistakes we make we hurt people with and in 10 we make we hurt people with and in 10 we make we hurt people with and in 10 years they'll be like wow now now years they'll be like wow now now years they'll be like wow now now I'm ready to uh live my best life thanks I'm ready to uh live my best life thanks I'm ready to uh live my best life thanks as always for your time attention and as always for your time attention and as always for your time attention and trust everyone we'll talk to you next trust everyone we'll talk to you next trust everyone we'll talk to you next week you call me the big buck hunting Bishop I mean now I have to I was going Bishop I mean now I have to I was going to say my brother wearing brown but that to say my brother wearing brown but that to say my brother wearing brown but that works too