Trends We Were Wrong About, Declining Engagement, & Giving Up

today on the show we're answering your today on the show we're answering your questions questions like how much time questions questions like how much time questions questions like how much time should a pastor spend on social each should a pastor spend on social each should a pastor spend on social each week or what do you do when you've been week or what do you do when you've been week or what do you do when you've been giv your all to social at your church giv your all to social at your church giv your all to social at your church and it's still not working and how do we and it's still not working and how do we and it's still not working and how do we make sure that we're always serving God make sure that we're always serving God make sure that we're always serving God in a field that's so gratifying itself in a field that's so gratifying itself in a field that's so gratifying itself let's dive let's dive let's dive in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years I'm BR communication shift in 500 years I'm BR communication shift in 500 years I'm BR sheer your host I'm Jo as always by my sheer your host I'm Jo as always by my sheer your host I'm Jo as always by my co-host we call him Archbishop asparagus co-host we call him Archbishop asparagus co-host we call him Archbishop asparagus it's Alexander hello hello and today it's Alexander hello hello and today it's Alexander hello hello and today we're answering questions from the we're answering questions from the we're answering questions from the mailbag opening up the inbox to answer mailbag opening up the inbox to answer mailbag opening up the inbox to answer your questions uh for context every time your questions uh for context every time your questions uh for context every time we go out for lunch on Wednesdays which we go out for lunch on Wednesdays which we go out for lunch on Wednesdays which is typically the same day that we film is typically the same day that we film is typically the same day that we film and record a podcast Alex always has to and record a podcast Alex always has to and record a podcast Alex always has to order for the table asparagus it's just order for the table asparagus it's just order for the table asparagus it's just one of those things like asparagus is one of those things like asparagus is one of those things like asparagus is one of the first seasonal vegetables if one of the first seasonal vegetables if one of the first seasonal vegetables if not the first like asparagus and not the first like asparagus and not the first like asparagus and radishes around here to eat oh and the radishes around here to eat oh and the radishes around here to eat oh and the restaurant downstairs when asparagus is restaurant downstairs when asparagus is restaurant downstairs when asparagus is ripe and ready they're like the first to ripe and ready they're like the first to ripe and ready they're like the first to just serve up a plate of it's just just serve up a plate of it's just just serve up a plate of it's just asparagus like it's got some edible asparagus like it's got some edible asparagus like it's got some edible flowers it's got the parmesan but it's flowers it's got the parmesan but it's flowers it's got the parmesan but it's like this is asparagus on a plate and like this is asparagus on a plate and like this is asparagus on a plate and it's like it's just a sign of a season it's like it's just a sign of a season it's like it's just a sign of a season of harvest and Bounty ahead uh and it's of harvest and Bounty ahead uh and it's of harvest and Bounty ahead uh and it's just great as paragus imagine ordering just great as paragus imagine ordering just great as paragus imagine ordering an appetizer side for the table that an appetizer side for the table that an appetizer side for the table that didn't come with edible flowers and didn't come with edible flowers and didn't come with edible flowers and downstairs here uh you cannot every dish downstairs here uh you cannot every dish downstairs here uh you cannot every dish they're going to pickled onions and they're going to pickled onions and they're going to pickled onions and edible flowers on pretty much anything edible flowers on pretty much anything edible flowers on pretty much anything that you order we got 16 questions today that you order we got 16 questions today that you order we got 16 questions today and and and this is just more fun for you and I

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organization which is really close-knit organization which is really close-knit and you wouldn't think you know and you wouldn't think you know and you wouldn't think you know sometimes you think about this with your sometimes you think about this with your sometimes you think about this with your spouse we're so close like we don't need spouse we're so close like we don't need spouse we're so close like we don't need values or shared language like we just values or shared language like we just values or shared language like we just know each other I had a conversation know each other I had a conversation know each other I had a conversation with my wife this week and we were with my wife this week and we were with my wife this week and we were working through like this little bit of working through like this little bit of working through like this little bit of tension and I was like you know what we tension and I was like you know what we tension and I was like you know what we just need here is I don't think we've just need here is I don't think we've just need here is I don't think we've ever actually articulated exactly what ever actually articulated exactly what ever actually articulated exactly what we want we both kind of like know what we want we both kind of like know what we want we both kind of like know what the other does but like what do we want the other does but like what do we want the other does but like what do we want from this we need to create values and from this we need to create values and from this we need to create values and then ideally some py Shar language that then ideally some py Shar language that then ideally some py Shar language that we can easily return to and let that we can easily return to and let that we can easily return to and let that drive these conversations that is almost drive these conversations that is almost drive these conversations that is almost always the solution now Church politics always the solution now Church politics always the solution now Church politics that can get that can get that can get into people using less than a virtuous into people using less than a virtuous into people using less than a virtuous means to control and to get their way means to control and to get their way means to control and to get their way and to pull their personal preference um and to pull their personal preference um and to pull their personal preference um into the spotlight which we don't want into the spotlight which we don't want into the spotlight which we don't want so long as you have this anchor of so long as you have this anchor of so long as you have this anchor of shared vision and values you can get shared vision and values you can get shared vision and values you can get back to that well remember here's what back to that well remember here's what back to that well remember here's what we're trying to accomplish so this is we're trying to accomplish so this is we're trying to accomplish so this is what your advocate for how does what what your advocate for how does what what your advocate for how does what you're suggesting help us achieve and you're suggesting help us achieve and you're suggesting help us achieve and accomplish that but you are the bishop accomplish that but you are the bishop accomplish that but you are the bishop Bishop bougie Archbishop asparagus Bishop bougie Archbishop asparagus Bishop bougie Archbishop asparagus Reverend randomizer so in your church Reverend randomizer so in your church Reverend randomizer so in your church and your experience as a pastor your and your experience as a pastor your and your experience as a pastor your answers well politics often because we answers well politics often because we answers well politics often because we live in such like a pluralized society live in such like a pluralized society live in such like a pluralized society and age here in the west like politics and age here in the west like politics and age here in the west like politics often is a dirty word um and has such often is a dirty word um and has such often is a dirty word um and has such negative connotation to it and you'll negative connotation to it and you'll negative connotation to it and you'll often hear in the church like this often hear in the church like this often hear in the church like this refrain of like let's keep politics out refrain of like let's keep politics out refrain of like let's keep politics out of church which just like by definition of church which just like by definition of church which just like by definition is not possible because politics just

is not possible because politics just is not possible because politics just like broadly defined is just how a like broadly defined is just how a like broadly defined is just how a country usually but how an organization country usually but how an organization country usually but how an organization how something how a group of people is how something how a group of people is how something how a group of people is governed and in church communities like governed and in church communities like governed and in church communities like we have governance and so we look at the we have governance and so we look at the we have governance and so we look at the scriptures and we see like in some of scriptures and we see like in some of scriptures and we see like in some of the earliest Church communities we see the earliest Church communities we see the earliest Church communities we see um like the Apostle Paul for example um like the Apostle Paul for example um like the Apostle Paul for example like installing Church governments like installing Church governments like installing Church governments talking about different offices of talking about different offices of talking about different offices of church leadership and even for churches church leadership and even for churches church leadership and even for churches that like try to be like you know what that like try to be like you know what that like try to be like you know what we're going to do things different we're we're going to do things different we're we're going to do things different we're not going to have a senior pastor we're not going to have a senior pastor we're not going to have a senior pastor we're going to we're going to lead by going to we're going to lead by going to we're going to lead by committee and stuff like there is some committee and stuff like there is some committee and stuff like there is some governance in that sense as well and so governance in that sense as well and so governance in that sense as well and so to the question like is church politics to the question like is church politics to the question like is church politics inevitable well of course it is because inevitable well of course it is because inevitable well of course it is because Church by definition is a gathered group Church by definition is a gathered group Church by definition is a gathered group of people and that group of people can't of people and that group of people can't of people and that group of people can't just be a bunch of sheep aimlessly just be a bunch of sheep aimlessly just be a bunch of sheep aimlessly wandering like they have to have wandering like they have to have wandering like they have to have leadership and by definition governance leadership and by definition governance leadership and by definition governance now what I'm hearing you saying is you now what I'm hearing you saying is you now what I'm hearing you saying is you can't spell politics without can't spell politics without can't spell politics without Paul that's EXA that's pretty much what Paul that's EXA that's pretty much what Paul that's EXA that's pretty much what I'm saying and so you know without I'm saying and so you know without I'm saying and so you know without descending into too much like uh descending into too much like uh descending into too much like uh political banter here like we do get to political banter here like we do get to political banter here like we do get to look at the scriptures to see good look at the scriptures to see good look at the scriptures to see good examples and good Frameworks for examples and good Frameworks for examples and good Frameworks for governance leadership in church um so governance leadership in church um so governance leadership in church um so yeah govern uh politics in church are yeah govern uh politics in church are yeah govern uh politics in church are inevitable descending into negativity in inevitable descending into negativity in inevitable descending into negativity in church governance is not inevitable in church governance is not inevitable in church governance is not inevitable in fact that's most of the exhortation from fact that's most of the exhortation from fact that's most of the exhortation from the Apostle Paul is like hey you guys the Apostle Paul is like hey you guys the Apostle Paul is like hey you guys aren't really leading these communities aren't really leading these communities aren't really leading these communities well you're making this era this era we well you're making this era this era we well you're making this era this era we need to bring ourselves back to like the need to bring ourselves back to like the need to bring ourselves back to like the mission of model of Jesus and he writes mission of model of Jesus and he writes mission of model of Jesus and he writes it down in his letters which now we read

it down in his letters which now we read it down in his letters which now we read in our churches and so it would it would in our churches and so it would it would in our churches and so it would it would suit us to and benefit us to take heed suit us to and benefit us to take heed suit us to and benefit us to take heed to those letters and and maybe reclaim to those letters and and maybe reclaim to those letters and and maybe reclaim some of what the Apostle Paul is saying some of what the Apostle Paul is saying some of what the Apostle Paul is saying so that when we use the word politics in so that when we use the word politics in so that when we use the word politics in church um it doesn't have a negative church um it doesn't have a negative church um it doesn't have a negative connotation but it just is what it is connotation but it just is what it is connotation but it just is what it is it's how we govern this body of people it's how we govern this body of people it's how we govern this body of people when we installed our vision and values when we installed our vision and values when we installed our vision and values it was not long before it was not long before it was not long before people that work here started people that work here started people that work here started referencing them as we were working referencing them as we were working referencing them as we were working through challenges so one of the values through challenges so one of the values through challenges so one of the values so I'm not just speaking about this so I'm not just speaking about this so I'm not just speaking about this abstractly is say the quiet part out abstractly is say the quiet part out abstractly is say the quiet part out loud right and so it wasn't long weeks loud right and so it wasn't long weeks loud right and so it wasn't long weeks months after we first installed that months after we first installed that months after we first installed that officially that someone said after they officially that someone said after they officially that someone said after they were quite honest I'm just trying to say were quite honest I'm just trying to say were quite honest I'm just trying to say the quiet part out loud you've said that the quiet part out loud you've said that the quiet part out loud you've said that to me y I think everyone out there at to me y I think everyone out there at to me y I think everyone out there at one point and it's been less than a year one point and it's been less than a year one point and it's been less than a year has said that to me and what that did has said that to me and what that did has said that to me and what that did was it gave shared language to the was it gave shared language to the was it gave shared language to the expectation that I charged everyone to expectation that I charged everyone to expectation that I charged everyone to uphold and it's a really easy way to uphold and it's a really easy way to uphold and it's a really easy way to remember it as well and so Alex is remember it as well and so Alex is remember it as well and so Alex is giving one shade of an answer and my giving one shade of an answer and my giving one shade of an answer and my practical side because you know what practical side because you know what practical side because you know what it's just who we are I have to be me and it's just who we are I have to be me and it's just who we are I have to be me and stay on brand the Practical side would stay on brand the Practical side would stay on brand the Practical side would be the more shared language that you be the more shared language that you be the more shared language that you have that's rooted in your mission and have that's rooted in your mission and have that's rooted in your mission and values the easier it becomes to navigate values the easier it becomes to navigate values the easier it becomes to navigate these political games I remember when I these political games I remember when I these political games I remember when I first met my now first met my now first met my now mother-in-law mother-in-law mother-in-law and I was in 12th grade and it was the and I was in 12th grade and it was the and I was in 12th grade and it was the first time I had like gone over to my

first time I had like gone over to my first time I had like gone over to my girlfriend's house and spent time with girlfriend's house and spent time with girlfriend's house and spent time with their family and I remember leaving out their family and I remember leaving out their family and I remember leaving out the front door and I'm shaking hands the front door and I'm shaking hands the front door and I'm shaking hands with Dad and I'm you know giving Mom a with Dad and I'm you know giving Mom a with Dad and I'm you know giving Mom a hug and she's like you could be a lawyer hug and she's like you could be a lawyer hug and she's like you could be a lawyer you know she's like not with me you know she's like not with me you know she's like not with me though nice to meet you Lisa yeah oh she though nice to meet you Lisa yeah oh she though nice to meet you Lisa yeah oh she yeah Pastor Lisa yeah and so Pastor Lisa yeah Pastor Lisa yeah and so Pastor Lisa yeah Pastor Lisa yeah and so Pastor Lisa wanted me to know hey I can tell that wanted me to know hey I can tell that wanted me to know hey I can tell that you know how to talk but just so you you know how to talk but just so you you know how to talk but just so you know I can see through that and that's know I can see through that and that's know I can see through that and that's what politics often becomes right it's what politics often becomes right it's what politics often becomes right it's the people that are the most convincing the people that are the most convincing the people that are the most convincing uh the most well articulated perhaps at uh the most well articulated perhaps at uh the most well articulated perhaps at the worst the most manipulative that can the worst the most manipulative that can the worst the most manipulative that can control things and when you allow the control things and when you allow the control things and when you allow the power of language for someone to wield power of language for someone to wield power of language for someone to wield that power the Bible speaks about that that power the Bible speaks about that that power the Bible speaks about that right the the power of life and death is right the the power of life and death is right the the power of life and death is in the tongue that also means that the in the tongue that also means that the in the tongue that also means that the person that's most well spoken that can person that's most well spoken that can person that's most well spoken that can manipulate things the best way they're manipulate things the best way they're manipulate things the best way they're the ones that can control things well the ones that can control things well the ones that can control things well when you have shared language vision and when you have shared language vision and when you have shared language vision and values that then becomes the anchor and values that then becomes the anchor and values that then becomes the anchor and the record of Truth and now it becomes the record of Truth and now it becomes the record of Truth and now it becomes more difficult not impossible because more difficult not impossible because more difficult not impossible because they can actually piggyback on top of they can actually piggyback on top of they can actually piggyback on top of that shared language but it becomes more that shared language but it becomes more that shared language but it becomes more difficult for someone to use the difficult for someone to use the difficult for someone to use the language that everyone's already agreed language that everyone's already agreed language that everyone's already agreed upon as the record of Truth when that upon as the record of Truth when that upon as the record of Truth when that doesn't exist they can create the record doesn't exist they can create the record doesn't exist they can create the record of truth and that's how they wield and of truth and that's how they wield and of truth and that's how they wield and control with their words and the control with their words and the control with their words and the politics that's right so good I know politics that's right so good I know politics that's right so good I know this because I could have been a lawyer this because I could have been a lawyer this because I could have been a lawyer pastor and the pragmatist wow uh the pastor and the pragmatist wow uh the pastor and the pragmatist wow uh the name of our new show our third show oh name of our new show our third show oh name of our new show our third show oh interesting um the randomizer says we're interesting um the randomizer says we're interesting um the randomizer says we're going to a question about um social this

going to a question about um social this going to a question about um social this is question two what do I do question is question two what do I do question is question two what do I do question two and actually question two oh yeah two and actually question two oh yeah two and actually question two oh yeah what do I do if for the past month or what do I do if for the past month or what do I do if for the past month or two our Church's Facebook reach and two our Church's Facebook reach and two our Church's Facebook reach and engagement has dropped however our engagement has dropped however our engagement has dropped however our Instagram has been rapidly climbing is Instagram has been rapidly climbing is Instagram has been rapidly climbing is it worth diversifying our content it worth diversifying our content it worth diversifying our content between the platforms and if so where do between the platforms and if so where do between the platforms and if so where do I even begin or is there something I even begin or is there something I even begin or is there something bigger here at bigger here at bigger here at play I don't evaluate social media play I don't evaluate social media play I don't evaluate social media performance in one or two month performance in one or two month performance in one or two month increments at the smallest I would look increments at the smallest I would look increments at the smallest I would look at 90 days so the first answer to this at 90 days so the first answer to this at 90 days so the first answer to this question the beginning of that answer is question the beginning of that answer is question the beginning of that answer is consider evaluating over a bigger sample consider evaluating over a bigger sample consider evaluating over a bigger sample size when we work with clients at size when we work with clients at size when we work with clients at socials sermons.com socials sermons.com socials sermons.com we on demand will prepare reports for we on demand will prepare reports for we on demand will prepare reports for them I don't prepare a report with a new them I don't prepare a report with a new them I don't prepare a report with a new church until we've been working with church until we've been working with church until we've been working with them for at least 90 days there's them for at least 90 days there's them for at least 90 days there's nothing really for us to evaluate after nothing really for us to evaluate after nothing really for us to evaluate after 30 or 60 days because the sample size is 30 or 60 days because the sample size is 30 or 60 days because the sample size is too small what is the danger when you too small what is the danger when you too small what is the danger when you evaluate from a small sample size you evaluate from a small sample size you evaluate from a small sample size you can read something into the data that is can read something into the data that is can read something into the data that is a blip right of Reverend randomiz and a blip right of Reverend randomiz and a blip right of Reverend randomiz and not something that's actually not something that's actually not something that's actually substantive and then you can make substantive and then you can make substantive and then you can make decisions changes beliefs oh you know decisions changes beliefs oh you know decisions changes beliefs oh you know what when we do this it works or perhaps what when we do this it works or perhaps what when we do this it works or perhaps less good when we do this it doesn't less good when we do this it doesn't less good when we do this it doesn't work then you start making decisions work then you start making decisions work then you start making decisions based on that when actually it was just based on that when actually it was just based on that when actually it was just Randomness and there's nothing there to Randomness and there's nothing there to Randomness and there's nothing there to glean so that would be the the first glean so that would be the the first glean so that would be the the first thing what's interesting about this thing what's interesting about this thing what's interesting about this person is that they're excelling on one person is that they're excelling on one person is that they're excelling on one platform and not excelling on another platform and not excelling on another platform and not excelling on another well the stratification of social media well the stratification of social media well the stratification of social media would tell us that different would tell us that different would tell us that different demographics have dwelt on different

demographics have dwelt on different demographics have dwelt on different platforms and so what that might be a platforms and so what that might be a platforms and so what that might be a reflection of might be is you excelling reflection of might be is you excelling reflection of might be is you excelling with a certain generation more than with a certain generation more than with a certain generation more than another of course the question would be another of course the question would be another of course the question would be if you were at one point excelling on if you were at one point excelling on if you were at one point excelling on Facebook and now you're no longer that Facebook and now you're no longer that Facebook and now you're no longer that might be something worth investigating might be something worth investigating might be something worth investigating and interrogating a little bit more and interrogating a little bit more and interrogating a little bit more um but if the same content is performing um but if the same content is performing um but if the same content is performing on one and not another that's really on one and not another that's really on one and not another that's really interesting what we would typically see interesting what we would typically see interesting what we would typically see is hey I can't gain traction anywhere is hey I can't gain traction anywhere is hey I can't gain traction anywhere and if that's the case I would start and if that's the case I would start and if that's the case I would start with okay perhaps the content that with okay perhaps the content that with okay perhaps the content that you're making is not compelling we're you're making is not compelling we're you're making is not compelling we're seeing something similar it doesn't seeing something similar it doesn't seeing something similar it doesn't matter what I do on Instagram it's like matter what I do on Instagram it's like matter what I do on Instagram it's like the midest touch it turns to Gold I will the midest touch it turns to Gold I will the midest touch it turns to Gold I will take double the effort triple the effort take double the effort triple the effort take double the effort triple the effort and put it towards something like and put it towards something like and put it towards something like YouTube and YouTube will be like you YouTube and YouTube will be like you YouTube and YouTube will be like you know what guess what nobody likes you know what guess what nobody likes you know what guess what nobody likes you and nobody ever liked you and that's an and nobody ever liked you and that's an and nobody ever liked you and that's an interesting thing to navigate because interesting thing to navigate because interesting thing to navigate because you're like the exact same content is you're like the exact same content is you're like the exact same content is performing here but it's not performing performing here but it's not performing performing here but it's not performing here what I'm doing is we're evaluating here what I'm doing is we're evaluating here what I'm doing is we're evaluating what we're doing on YouTube right now what we're doing on YouTube right now what we're doing on YouTube right now and considering okay what could we do and considering okay what could we do and considering okay what could we do differently dramatically differently differently dramatically differently differently dramatically differently that could serve this audience better that could serve this audience better that could serve this audience better and perhaps then help us serve new and perhaps then help us serve new and perhaps then help us serve new audiences even better as well and what audiences even better as well and what audiences even better as well and what we also see is the evolution of these we also see is the evolution of these we also see is the evolution of these social platforms you know I used to uh social platforms you know I used to uh social platforms you know I used to uh blog every single week and and now I I blog every single week and and now I I blog every single week and and now I I blog every single week but like on blog every single week but like on blog every single week but like on Instagram in the form of carousels and Instagram in the form of carousels and Instagram in the form of carousels and my my blogs perform just as well I mean my my blogs perform just as well I mean my my blogs perform just as well I mean actually way better but that exact same actually way better but that exact same actually way better but that exact same content on Google is not performing as

content on Google is not performing as content on Google is not performing as well why cuz Google can't do anything well why cuz Google can't do anything well why cuz Google can't do anything apparently right now as we've seen from apparently right now as we've seen from apparently right now as we've seen from their Google AI results how can I expect their Google AI results how can I expect their Google AI results how can I expect them to serve a blog post up honestly so them to serve a blog post up honestly so them to serve a blog post up honestly so a lot of moving pieces it's really a lot of moving pieces it's really a lot of moving pieces it's really difficult to pin down the exact thing difficult to pin down the exact thing difficult to pin down the exact thing because we don't get full transparency because we don't get full transparency because we don't get full transparency what's happening behind the scenes I what's happening behind the scenes I what's happening behind the scenes I would expand the size to at least 90 would expand the size to at least 90 would expand the size to at least 90 days if content is performing well on days if content is performing well on days if content is performing well on one platform and not another I would one platform and not another I would one platform and not another I would take that as encouraging we are reaching take that as encouraging we are reaching take that as encouraging we are reaching one generation well we are reaching one one generation well we are reaching one one generation well we are reaching one platform well and then if that continues platform well and then if that continues platform well and then if that continues through six months I would then through six months I would then through six months I would then re-evaluate as we are with YouTube okay re-evaluate as we are with YouTube okay re-evaluate as we are with YouTube okay clearly what we're doing here is not clearly what we're doing here is not clearly what we're doing here is not performing as it once did how then performing as it once did how then performing as it once did how then should we approach this platform should we approach this platform should we approach this platform differently that was the first thing differently that was the first thing differently that was the first thing that piqu my interest about the that piqu my interest about the that piqu my interest about the specifics of this question that specifics of this question that specifics of this question that Instagram was doing well and Facebook Instagram was doing well and Facebook Instagram was doing well and Facebook was not which is the stratification of was not which is the stratification of was not which is the stratification of social these social platforms and we social these social platforms and we social these social platforms and we know that there's a younger generation know that there's a younger generation know that there's a younger generation who has settled on Instagram than there who has settled on Instagram than there who has settled on Instagram than there is on Facebook we're talking about is on Facebook we're talking about is on Facebook we're talking about Millennials versus Boomers for example Millennials versus Boomers for example Millennials versus Boomers for example and so it seems like it's possible um and so it seems like it's possible um and so it seems like it's possible um that this content is resonating more that this content is resonating more that this content is resonating more with a younger generation than with an with a younger generation than with an with a younger generation than with an older Generation Now call back to the older Generation Now call back to the older Generation Now call back to the episode we did with Dr Cara Powell from episode we did with Dr Cara Powell from episode we did with Dr Cara Powell from the Fuller Institute she said that the Fuller Institute she said that the Fuller Institute she said that churches are growing are churches are growing are churches are growing are disproportionately prioritizing young disproportionately prioritizing young disproportionately prioritizing young people and so for for this church this people and so for for this church this people and so for for this church this could be a good sign of like okay the could be a good sign of like okay the could be a good sign of like okay the content that you're investing in content that you're investing in content that you're investing in creating is resonating with younger creating is resonating with younger creating is resonating with younger people that doesn't mean to forsake the people that doesn't mean to forsake the people that doesn't mean to forsake the older people of course but that's a good older people of course but that's a good older people of course but that's a good sign that like younger people are sign that like younger people are sign that like younger people are resonating with your content um the resonating with your content um the resonating with your content um the question did ask like okay if I do need question did ask like okay if I do need question did ask like okay if I do need to diversify our content if so where do

to diversify our content if so where do to diversify our content if so where do I begin if that's the case if let's say I begin if that's the case if let's say I begin if that's the case if let's say they take 90 days or six months and they they take 90 days or six months and they they take 90 days or six months and they realize okay the Instagram content realize okay the Instagram content realize okay the Instagram content resonating with younger people that's resonating with younger people that's resonating with younger people that's good we want to do that because Dr Cara good we want to do that because Dr Cara good we want to do that because Dr Cara says that's a good thing to do Facebook says that's a good thing to do Facebook says that's a good thing to do Facebook we don't want to forsake we do want to we don't want to forsake we do want to we don't want to forsake we do want to reach the Boomers like how much energy reach the Boomers like how much energy reach the Boomers like how much energy should a church be investing should a church be investing should a church be investing in diversifying like content strategies in diversifying like content strategies in diversifying like content strategies for different generations of people on for different generations of people on for different generations of people on different platforms broadly speaking different platforms broadly speaking different platforms broadly speaking probably not that much for most churches probably not that much for most churches probably not that much for most churches it's hard enough for churches to achieve it's hard enough for churches to achieve it's hard enough for churches to achieve that no weeks off Rhythm that is that no weeks off Rhythm that is that no weeks off Rhythm that is foundational to Effectiveness online for foundational to Effectiveness online for foundational to Effectiveness online for them to then do that in multiple them to then do that in multiple them to then do that in multiple verticals almost acting independently of verticals almost acting independently of verticals almost acting independently of each other that's just a really tall ask each other that's just a really tall ask each other that's just a really tall ask for Ministry leaders that wear so many for Ministry leaders that wear so many for Ministry leaders that wear so many different hats I have long been an different hats I have long been an different hats I have long been an advocate for one advocate for one advocate for one platform fully get that going and then platform fully get that going and then platform fully get that going and then go to another so if the argument is well go to another so if the argument is well go to another so if the argument is well we've got that within Instagram now we've got that within Instagram now we've got that within Instagram now we're ready to move to Facebook the we're ready to move to Facebook the we're ready to move to Facebook the first evaluation I would want to make is first evaluation I would want to make is first evaluation I would want to make is as we dedicate more resources especially as we dedicate more resources especially as we dedicate more resources especially at the beginning you know we got to at the beginning you know we got to at the beginning you know we got to really figure this out there's going to really figure this out there's going to really figure this out there's going to be a lot more kind of ramp up time like be a lot more kind of ramp up time like be a lot more kind of ramp up time like production time development time as we production time development time as we production time development time as we kind of figure out what might work on kind of figure out what might work on kind of figure out what might work on Facebook might that take away from the Facebook might that take away from the Facebook might that take away from the one thing that's working that's the last one thing that's working that's the last one thing that's working that's the last thing that you want you start taking thing that you want you start taking thing that you want you start taking energy and resources from Instagram to energy and resources from Instagram to energy and resources from Instagram to put WS Facebook Instagram's like man I I put WS Facebook Instagram's like man I I put WS Facebook Instagram's like man I I I loved you stop chasing the platform I loved you stop chasing the platform I loved you stop chasing the platform that doesn't love you I love you now that doesn't love you I love you now that doesn't love you I love you now yeah yeah all right next question um yeah yeah all right next question um yeah yeah all right next question um randomizer says we're moving on to how randomizer says we're moving on to how randomizer says we're moving on to how much time should a pastor dedicate to much time should a pastor dedicate to much time should a pastor dedicate to making content for social media if

making content for social media if making content for social media if any you're already spending a ton of any you're already spending a ton of any you're already spending a ton of time as a pastor creating content every time as a pastor creating content every time as a pastor creating content every single week how much of what do you single week how much of what do you single week how much of what do you think average amount of time in a week a think average amount of time in a week a think average amount of time in a week a pastor spends on that obviously it's pastor spends on that obviously it's pastor spends on that obviously it's going to differ but yeah like not I've going to differ but yeah like not I've going to differ but yeah like not I've I've I've read uh and been a part of I've I've read uh and been a part of I've I've read uh and been a part of like polls asking this very question like polls asking this very question like polls asking this very question like to pastors like how many hours a like to pastors like how many hours a like to pastors like how many hours a week are you dedicated to writing your week are you dedicated to writing your week are you dedicated to writing your sermon and like not very many sermon and like not very many sermon and like not very many respondents would respond less than 8 respondents would respond less than 8 respondents would respond less than 8 hours okay um and for seasoned pastors hours okay um and for seasoned pastors hours okay um and for seasoned pastors and seasoned preachers you see that time and seasoned preachers you see that time and seasoned preachers you see that time creeping down I remember when I first creeping down I remember when I first creeping down I remember when I first started preaching sermons it was like started preaching sermons it was like started preaching sermons it was like take like 20 hours to write like a good take like 20 hours to write like a good take like 20 hours to write like a good sermon and now it's like for me it's sermon and now it's like for me it's sermon and now it's like for me it's like it is less than 8 um uh but like it is less than 8 um uh but like it is less than 8 um uh but certainly like I mean that's a full work certainly like I mean that's a full work certainly like I mean that's a full work day even if it is 8 and that's on the day even if it is 8 and that's on the day even if it is 8 and that's on the low end of the spectrum so it's quite a low end of the spectrum so it's quite a low end of the spectrum so it's quite a it's quite a bit of time dedicated to it's quite a bit of time dedicated to it's quite a bit of time dedicated to making if you're preaching most weeks of making if you're preaching most weeks of making if you're preaching most weeks of the year making this large form piece of the year making this large form piece of the year making this large form piece of really high quality content every single really high quality content every single really high quality content every single week writing has different Expressions week writing has different Expressions week writing has different Expressions so writing for social is not the same as so writing for social is not the same as so writing for social is not the same as writing a sermon which is not the same writing a sermon which is not the same writing a sermon which is not the same as writing a book which is not the same as writing a book which is not the same as writing a book which is not the same as writing a script for a video I want as writing a script for a video I want as writing a script for a video I want that to be clear that being said I that to be clear that being said I that to be clear that being said I probably spend about as much time as the probably spend about as much time as the probably spend about as much time as the average Pastor you know let's say 8 to average Pastor you know let's say 8 to average Pastor you know let's say 8 to 12 hours a week creating content for 12 hours a week creating content for 12 hours a week creating content for social as a pastor does creating content social as a pastor does creating content social as a pastor does creating content and guess what I'm doing this weekend and guess what I'm doing this weekend and guess what I'm doing this weekend I'm speaking at a conference guess what I'm speaking at a conference guess what I'm speaking at a conference guess what I'm doing the conference is content I've I'm doing the conference is content I've I'm doing the conference is content I've already written that I'm repurposing for already written that I'm repurposing for already written that I'm repurposing for a live talk and this is the great church a live talk and this is the great church a live talk and this is the great church advantage senior leaders putting in advantage senior leaders putting in advantage senior leaders putting in spiritual and creative effort every spiritual and creative effort every spiritual and creative effort every single week creating the content so it's single week creating the content so it's single week creating the content so it's already there so the question itself is

already there so the question itself is already there so the question itself is partially flawed I was emailing a church partially flawed I was emailing a church partially flawed I was emailing a church right before we got on here and they right before we got on here and they right before we got on here and they were talking about okay we want to work were talking about okay we want to work were talking about okay we want to work with you at Social sermons instead of with you at Social sermons instead of with you at Social sermons instead of like this part of the complete plan we like this part of the complete plan we like this part of the complete plan we want this part of the complete plan and want this part of the complete plan and want this part of the complete plan and they said we just like we we just want they said we just like we we just want they said we just like we we just want to send you multiple sermons instead and to send you multiple sermons instead and to send you multiple sermons instead and I was like here's the thing we're glad I was like here's the thing we're glad I was like here's the thing we're glad to do that for you but within the scope to do that for you but within the scope to do that for you but within the scope of this of this of this plan most of the work we do is reviewing plan most of the work we do is reviewing plan most of the work we do is reviewing the sermon the work is not like opening the sermon the work is not like opening the sermon the work is not like opening up Photoshop right the work is how do we up Photoshop right the work is how do we up Photoshop right the work is how do we pull the best quote from this 40-minute pull the best quote from this 40-minute pull the best quote from this 40-minute video how do we translate this 30 to 90 video how do we translate this 30 to 90 video how do we translate this 30 to 90 second portion of the video into a second portion of the video into a second portion of the video into a carousel post so the work is the review carousel post so the work is the review carousel post so the work is the review and the internalization of the content and the internalization of the content and the internalization of the content which then creates the output the output which then creates the output the output which then creates the output the output is actually the easy part and so if we is actually the easy part and so if we is actually the easy part and so if we take that same idea and bring it to this take that same idea and bring it to this take that same idea and bring it to this question the hard work is done yes question the hard work is done yes question the hard work is done yes writing for these platforms is different writing for these platforms is different writing for these platforms is different I'm going to be speaking to a live room I'm going to be speaking to a live room I'm going to be speaking to a live room I am not going to approach that in the I am not going to approach that in the I am not going to approach that in the identical way I would a carousel post or identical way I would a carousel post or identical way I would a carousel post or something similar but the the meat is something similar but the the meat is something similar but the the meat is still there and then I'm just serving it still there and then I'm just serving it still there and then I'm just serving it up in a bit of a different way yeah I up in a bit of a different way yeah I up in a bit of a different way yeah I mean I think the answer to this question mean I think the answer to this question mean I think the answer to this question is entirely dependent on the context of is entirely dependent on the context of is entirely dependent on the context of the church we're talking about oh it the church we're talking about oh it the church we're talking about oh it depends right so like like for a mega depends right so like like for a mega depends right so like like for a mega pastor of a mega church like you would pastor of a mega church like you would pastor of a mega church like you would be devoting little to no effort on the be devoting little to no effort on the be devoting little to no effort on the church's social media maybe on your own church's social media maybe on your own church's social media maybe on your own and that's your own prerogative uh for a and that's your own prerogative uh for a and that's your own prerogative uh for a medium-sized church maybe your personal medium-sized church maybe your personal medium-sized church maybe your personal Instagram is like the Pastoral voice of

Instagram is like the Pastoral voice of Instagram is like the Pastoral voice of of your church and so maybe there's some of your church and so maybe there's some of your church and so maybe there's some effort there and then for a church like effort there and then for a church like effort there and then for a church like mine of 75 people where we don't have mine of 75 people where we don't have mine of 75 people where we don't have someone doing social media it's just me someone doing social media it's just me someone doing social media it's just me um it's I'm I'm putting in more effort um it's I'm I'm putting in more effort um it's I'm I'm putting in more effort than the mega church pastor but to to than the mega church pastor but to to than the mega church pastor but to to affirm what you're saying a lot of the affirm what you're saying a lot of the affirm what you're saying a lot of the content I'm creating for social for our content I'm creating for social for our content I'm creating for social for our church is is just Snippets from the church is is just Snippets from the church is is just Snippets from the content that we already wrestled with on content that we already wrestled with on content that we already wrestled with on Sunday so whether it's from from the Sunday so whether it's from from the Sunday so whether it's from from the opening prayer or the worship or opening prayer or the worship or opening prayer or the worship or certainly the sermon I'm just I'm just certainly the sermon I'm just I'm just certainly the sermon I'm just I'm just like picking out things like on on like picking out things like on on like picking out things like on on Sunday my dad was preaching I wrote down Sunday my dad was preaching I wrote down Sunday my dad was preaching I wrote down a couple notes during his sermon with a couple notes during his sermon with a couple notes during his sermon with social in mind um if I'm preaching I've social in mind um if I'm preaching I've social in mind um if I'm preaching I've internalized that content pretty well internalized that content pretty well internalized that content pretty well throughout the week so like the next throughout the week so like the next throughout the week so like the next week I'm just kind of regurgitating that week I'm just kind of regurgitating that week I'm just kind of regurgitating that in different forms on social um to kind in different forms on social um to kind in different forms on social um to kind of just reinforce what we did as a of just reinforce what we did as a of just reinforce what we did as a community on Sunday what we talked about community on Sunday what we talked about community on Sunday what we talked about on Sunday um so it it's it's really hard on Sunday um so it it's it's really hard on Sunday um so it it's it's really hard to give a definitive answer to this but to give a definitive answer to this but to give a definitive answer to this but definitely I think um the the scale of definitely I think um the the scale of definitely I think um the the scale of how much time a pastor actually ends up how much time a pastor actually ends up how much time a pastor actually ends up dedicating to social is proportionate dedicating to social is proportionate dedicating to social is proportionate with or inversely proportionate with the with or inversely proportionate with the with or inversely proportionate with the size of the church the smaller the size of the church the smaller the size of the church the smaller the church probably the more time the bigger church probably the more time the bigger church probably the more time the bigger the church probably the less time I like the church probably the less time I like the church probably the less time I like that may I provide a metaphor please do that may I provide a metaphor please do that may I provide a metaphor please do so I've gotten a lot into the big baking so I've gotten a lot into the big baking so I've gotten a lot into the big baking of bread yes okay I think of it this way of bread yes okay I think of it this way of bread yes okay I think of it this way there's a lot of work that goes into there's a lot of work that goes into there's a lot of work that goes into baking a loaf perhaps you have a baking a loaf perhaps you have a baking a loaf perhaps you have a sourdough starter that's its own thing sourdough starter that's its own thing sourdough starter that's its own thing perhaps the night before you mix up a perhaps the night before you mix up a perhaps the night before you mix up a Bea or a poish perhaps you do it all in Bea or a poish perhaps you do it all in Bea or a poish perhaps you do it all in one day but usually while there's not a one day but usually while there's not a one day but usually while there's not a ton of active time baking bread takes

ton of active time baking bread takes ton of active time baking bread takes like 8 to 24 hours to if you have the like 8 to 24 hours to if you have the like 8 to 24 hours to if you have the sour to starter you know many many many sour to starter you know many many many sour to starter you know many many many days now imagine you bake the whole loaf days now imagine you bake the whole loaf days now imagine you bake the whole loaf of bread and you're like this is awesome of bread and you're like this is awesome of bread and you're like this is awesome I could eat this bread I could also make I could eat this bread I could also make I could eat this bread I could also make a sandwich sure making the sandwich a sandwich sure making the sandwich a sandwich sure making the sandwich would require a little bit more work but would require a little bit more work but would require a little bit more work but like you did the hard part you have the like you did the hard part you have the like you did the hard part you have the bread and this is kind of how I feel it bread and this is kind of how I feel it bread and this is kind of how I feel it is with this social content like if is with this social content like if is with this social content like if we're talking about it takes 100% of we're talking about it takes 100% of we're talking about it takes 100% of effort to make social content like the effort to make social content like the effort to make social content like the sermon is 80% of that effort yes there's sermon is 80% of that effort yes there's sermon is 80% of that effort yes there's a little bit more to translate the a little bit more to translate the a little bit more to translate the sermon content into social content but sermon content into social content but sermon content into social content but like if you don't make that bread into a like if you don't make that bread into a like if you don't make that bread into a sandwich and you want a sandwich next sandwich and you want a sandwich next sandwich and you want a sandwich next week and you don't have bread now you're week and you don't have bread now you're week and you don't have bread now you're really in trouble but pastors are baking really in trouble but pastors are baking really in trouble but pastors are baking bread every single bread every single bread every single and so just a little bit more effort and so just a little bit more effort and so just a little bit more effort whip up a sauce just cut up some meal whip up a sauce just cut up some meal whip up a sauce just cut up some meal fry up some chicken you're good to go fry up some chicken you're good to go fry up some chicken you're good to go bacon bread randomiz or where we're bacon bread randomiz or where we're bacon bread randomiz or where we're going next question 12 should we going next question 12 should we going next question 12 should we honestly care what others in church honestly care what others in church honestly care what others in church think about us oo okay the answer might think about us oo okay the answer might think about us oo okay the answer might surpris the answer is for your own surpris the answer is for your own surpris the answer is for your own self-esteem and self-worth no but I self-esteem and self-worth no but I self-esteem and self-worth no but I believe for the effectiveness of the the believe for the effectiveness of the the believe for the effectiveness of the the church yes and here's what I mean by church yes and here's what I mean by church yes and here's what I mean by that we all know the person that's like that we all know the person that's like that we all know the person that's like man I don't care what people think of me man I don't care what people think of me man I don't care what people think of me and all it means is that they're and all it means is that they're and all it means is that they're incredibly abrasive and it actually incredibly abrasive and it actually incredibly abrasive and it actually makes people want to spend less time makes people want to spend less time makes people want to spend less time with them it actually makes people trust with them it actually makes people trust with them it actually makes people trust them less it actually hurts their them less it actually hurts their them less it actually hurts their reputation well if all of those things reputation well if all of those things reputation well if all of those things are

are are true that would be problematic in a true that would be problematic in a true that would be problematic in a church context if a pastor was like I church context if a pastor was like I church context if a pastor was like I don't care what people think of me and don't care what people think of me and don't care what people think of me and that then led to abrasiveness and that then led to abrasiveness and that then led to abrasiveness and tarnishing on his or her reputation tarnishing on his or her reputation tarnishing on his or her reputation and an inability for to be trusted well and an inability for to be trusted well and an inability for to be trusted well yes that's tremendously bad if however yes that's tremendously bad if however yes that's tremendously bad if however that Pastor said I do not care what that Pastor said I do not care what that Pastor said I do not care what people think of me in the sense of I am people think of me in the sense of I am people think of me in the sense of I am committed to the mission of the gospel committed to the mission of the gospel committed to the mission of the gospel and modeling my life after Jesus Christ and modeling my life after Jesus Christ and modeling my life after Jesus Christ and I understand that I cannot please and I understand that I cannot please and I understand that I cannot please everyone and I will do my very best to everyone and I will do my very best to everyone and I will do my very best to live by my convictions and the leading live by my convictions and the leading live by my convictions and the leading of the Holy Spirit and I understand that of the Holy Spirit and I understand that of the Holy Spirit and I understand that I can't please everyone in all context I can't please everyone in all context I can't please everyone in all context that that's perfectly all right but it's that that's perfectly all right but it's that that's perfectly all right but it's really interesting how frequently those really interesting how frequently those really interesting how frequently those two intersect and we use this idea of I two intersect and we use this idea of I two intersect and we use this idea of I don't care what people think as an don't care what people think as an don't care what people think as an excuse for bad behavior which is excuse for bad behavior which is excuse for bad behavior which is actually just idolatry and the peak of actually just idolatry and the peak of actually just idolatry and the peak of selfishness yeah I'm going to quote the selfishness yeah I'm going to quote the selfishness yeah I'm going to quote the Apostle Paul again um when he says like Apostle Paul again um when he says like Apostle Paul again um when he says like I'm committed to nothing else I just I'm committed to nothing else I just I'm committed to nothing else I just want to preach Christ and Christ want to preach Christ and Christ want to preach Christ and Christ crucified and he says it so many other crucified and he says it so many other crucified and he says it so many other times in his letters he talks about times in his letters he talks about times in his letters he talks about putting on Christ and the famous um putting on Christ and the famous um putting on Christ and the famous um metaphor of of the old me is dead and metaphor of of the old me is dead and metaphor of of the old me is dead and now I'm alive in Christ and so he talks now I'm alive in Christ and so he talks now I'm alive in Christ and so he talks about that a lot about like me Paul like about that a lot about like me Paul like about that a lot about like me Paul like I'm nothing Christ is everything and so I'm nothing Christ is everything and so I'm nothing Christ is everything and so in that sense he's saying like like yeah in that sense he's saying like like yeah in that sense he's saying like like yeah like like this is not about me but what like like this is not about me but what like like this is not about me but what he is saying is this is about Jesus so he is saying is this is about Jesus so he is saying is this is about Jesus so when people think about me I don't care when people think about me I don't care when people think about me I don't care what people think about me as in like

what people think about me as in like what people think about me as in like the self as in Alexander but I do care the self as in Alexander but I do care the self as in Alexander but I do care what people think about Jesus and my what people think about Jesus and my what people think about Jesus and my life should be a reflection of Jesus so life should be a reflection of Jesus so life should be a reflection of Jesus so it's it's that it's that very same thing it's it's that it's that very same thing it's it's that it's that very same thing it's like right I I I don't I shouldn't it's like right I I I don't I shouldn't it's like right I I I don't I shouldn't I shouldn't serve my ego in caring what I shouldn't serve my ego in caring what I shouldn't serve my ego in caring what people think about me but when people people think about me but when people people think about me but when people think about me they ought to think about think about me they ought to think about think about me they ought to think about Jesus and they ought to think about Jesus and they ought to think about Jesus and they ought to think about Jesus rightly which means again to Echo Jesus rightly which means again to Echo Jesus rightly which means again to Echo Paul when he like lays out the what a a Paul when he like lays out the what a a Paul when he like lays out the what a a leader in church should should look like leader in church should should look like leader in church should should look like and what they shouldn't look like he's and what they shouldn't look like he's and what they shouldn't look like he's like very clear about like what type of like very clear about like what type of like very clear about like what type of person should be leading a church and person should be leading a church and person should be leading a church and what their lives should look like and so what their lives should look like and so what their lives should look like and so that's it when people think about me and that's it when people think about me and that's it when people think about me and they they what I'm embodying Jesus to be they they what I'm embodying Jesus to be they they what I'm embodying Jesus to be that should really matter to me but my that should really matter to me but my that should really matter to me but my ego can't be present in that equation ego can't be present in that equation ego can't be present in that equation whatsoever which is certainly a whatsoever which is certainly a whatsoever which is certainly a Temptation in like celebrity Church Temptation in like celebrity Church Temptation in like celebrity Church culture it just it is and and and we culture it just it is and and and we culture it just it is and and and we ought to speak frankly about that so ought to speak frankly about that so ought to speak frankly about that so that we are aware of it and and resist that we are aware of it and and resist that we are aware of it and and resist that devil at every and any opportunity that devil at every and any opportunity that devil at every and any opportunity I would go as far to say the more a I would go as far to say the more a I would go as far to say the more a leader is adamant and vocal about how leader is adamant and vocal about how leader is adamant and vocal about how much they don't care about other people much they don't care about other people much they don't care about other people the more of a red flag that is to me the the more of a red flag that is to me the the more of a red flag that is to me the reason being is because I care what reason being is because I care what reason being is because I care what people think of me because people think of me because people think of me because I'm worried at all times that I'm I'm worried at all times that I'm I'm worried at all times that I'm elevating myself over like the mission elevating myself over like the mission elevating myself over like the mission that God has called me to like at all so that God has called me to like at all so that God has called me to like at all so so I'm worried what people might think so I'm worried what people might think so I'm worried what people might think of me because if they think poorly of me of me because if they think poorly of me of me because if they think poorly of me it's probably my fear would be because it's probably my fear would be because it's probably my fear would be because it was my greed or my jealousy or my it was my greed or my jealousy or my it was my greed or my jealousy or my selfishness or my pride that got in the selfishness or my pride that got in the selfishness or my pride that got in the way of the person that God's actually

way of the person that God's actually way of the person that God's actually calling me to be I'm never actually calling me to be I'm never actually calling me to be I'm never actually worried about a a bad look because I did worried about a a bad look because I did worried about a a bad look because I did what God wanted me to do I'm worried if what God wanted me to do I'm worried if what God wanted me to do I'm worried if I got off the trail and my suspicion I got off the trail and my suspicion I got off the trail and my suspicion would be that if I looked poorly in would be that if I looked poorly in would be that if I looked poorly in front of someone it's cuz I got off the front of someone it's cuz I got off the front of someone it's cuz I got off the trail so for someone to say oh I don't trail so for someone to say oh I don't trail so for someone to say oh I don't care what anyone thinks at all be like care what anyone thinks at all be like care what anyone thinks at all be like well that probably means you think very well that probably means you think very well that probably means you think very very highly of yourself which perhaps is very highly of yourself which perhaps is very highly of yourself which perhaps is good maybe you're actually that awesome good maybe you're actually that awesome good maybe you're actually that awesome I just know for I just know for I just know for me for me I don't know man okay uh again me for me I don't know man okay uh again me for me I don't know man okay uh again just test Testament to the randomizer we just test Testament to the randomizer we just test Testament to the randomizer we surely shouldn't be answering this surely shouldn't be answering this surely shouldn't be answering this question next but the randomizer says question next but the randomizer says question next but the randomizer says we're going here so what are the boys we're going here so what are the boys we're going here so what are the boys wearing for summer this year hey wearing for summer this year hey wearing for summer this year hey let's go so let's go so let's go so um the boys are wearing longer um the boys are wearing longer um the boys are wearing longer shorts a little bit longer not too long shorts a little bit longer not too long shorts a little bit longer not too long I I I've seen some some some wide shorts I I I've seen some some some wide shorts I I I've seen some some some wide shorts yeah yeah my shorts this year are about yeah yeah my shorts this year are about yeah yeah my shorts this year are about it are about 2 inches longer oh it are about 2 inches longer oh it are about 2 inches longer oh interesting and a little bit looser I interesting and a little bit looser I interesting and a little bit looser I mean which is it shouldn't be surprised mean which is it shouldn't be surprised mean which is it shouldn't be surprised to anyone we're we've we've we've moved to anyone we're we've we've we've moved to anyone we're we've we've we've moved away from the the skin tight uh shorty away from the the skin tight uh shorty away from the the skin tight uh shorty shorts uh but yeah a little bit looser a shorts uh but yeah a little bit looser a shorts uh but yeah a little bit looser a little bit longer like not Rocky a 5in little bit longer like not Rocky a 5in little bit longer like not Rocky a 5in in seam this year so I've seen like a in seam this year so I've seen like a in seam this year so I've seen like a lot what's really trending right now is lot what's really trending right now is lot what's really trending right now is like some longer wider shorts um very like some longer wider shorts um very like some longer wider shorts um very early early early 2000ish and I'm interested in that I 2000ish and I'm interested in that I 2000ish and I'm interested in that I most of my shorts are above the knee and most of my shorts are above the knee and most of my shorts are above the knee and so to go loose fit below the knee is

so to go loose fit below the knee is so to go loose fit below the knee is like a big step also like you know like a big step also like you know like a big step also like you know neither of us are the tallest gentleman neither of us are the tallest gentleman neither of us are the tallest gentleman and so that's not you got tattoos to and so that's not you got tattoos to and so that's not you got tattoos to show up well that's also interesting show up well that's also interesting show up well that's also interesting right Sky out thighs out that has to right Sky out thighs out that has to right Sky out thighs out that has to true at all times uh big trend from last true at all times uh big trend from last true at all times uh big trend from last year that is carrying over I'm seeing is year that is carrying over I'm seeing is year that is carrying over I'm seeing is just the crochet tops any type of Polo just the crochet tops any type of Polo just the crochet tops any type of Polo or top that has texture that is not just or top that has texture that is not just or top that has texture that is not just um a polo that is like oh just like a um a polo that is like oh just like a um a polo that is like oh just like a plain color with Sheen like you know plain color with Sheen like you know plain color with Sheen like you know your your top you can see the texture in your your top you can see the texture in your your top you can see the texture in it from here that's really nice a drop it from here that's really nice a drop it from here that's really nice a drop shoulder a Cuban collar love love love shoulder a Cuban collar love love love shoulder a Cuban collar love love love um any type of embroidery I've got a um any type of embroidery I've got a um any type of embroidery I've got a couple like uh button-downs short sleev couple like uh button-downs short sleev couple like uh button-downs short sleev button UPS short sleeve are you button UPS short sleeve are you button UPS short sleeve are you buttoning it up or you button it down it buttoning it up or you button it down it buttoning it up or you button it down it depends on what type what time of day it depends on what type what time of day it depends on what type what time of day it is okay so yeah little embroidery I've is okay so yeah little embroidery I've is okay so yeah little embroidery I've got some that have like you know some got some that have like you know some got some that have like you know some some floral some that have uh I feel some floral some that have uh I feel some floral some that have uh I feel like there's a bird on one you know uh like there's a bird on one you know uh like there's a bird on one you know uh so that embroidery is pretty good you so that embroidery is pretty good you so that embroidery is pretty good you know white shoes at all time I'm I'm know white shoes at all time I'm I'm know white shoes at all time I'm I'm trying to move forward with the Footwear trying to move forward with the Footwear trying to move forward with the Footwear you know like I'm entering my mid-30s 33 you know like I'm entering my mid-30s 33 you know like I'm entering my mid-30s 33 right now I'll be 34 next year you know right now I'll be 34 next year you know right now I'll be 34 next year you know so I'm entering that mid-30s like can a so I'm entering that mid-30s like can a so I'm entering that mid-30s like can a man wear white sneakers indefinitely I man wear white sneakers indefinitely I man wear white sneakers indefinitely I think so his wife would say yes yeah him think so his wife would say yes yeah him think so his wife would say yes yeah him he would say well should I not be he would say well should I not be he would say well should I not be entertaining the idea of a loafer or a entertaining the idea of a loafer or a entertaining the idea of a loafer or a boat shoe and she's like or Air Force boat shoe and she's like or Air Force boat shoe and she's like or Air Force Ones until you die right 550s like a Ones until you die right 550s like a Ones until you die right 550s like a middle yeah some I mean 550s uh yeah and middle yeah some I mean 550s uh yeah and middle yeah some I mean 550s uh yeah and and you know thin shoes are in right now and you know thin shoes are in right now and you know thin shoes are in right now SAS again that's not really my thing as

SAS again that's not really my thing as SAS again that's not really my thing as we've discussed on previous episodes so we've discussed on previous episodes so we've discussed on previous episodes so I'd say that's kind of what we're I'd say that's kind of what we're I'd say that's kind of what we're wearing you know we're keeping it light wearing you know we're keeping it light wearing you know we're keeping it light we're keeping it Breezy consider just we're keeping it Breezy consider just we're keeping it Breezy consider just consider your Fabrics out there you know consider your Fabrics out there you know consider your Fabrics out there you know it's going to get spicy if it's not it's going to get spicy if it's not it's going to get spicy if it's not already depending on where you live and already depending on where you live and already depending on where you live and it's very often possible to wear the it's very often possible to wear the it's very often possible to wear the identical silhouette of a clothing item identical silhouette of a clothing item identical silhouette of a clothing item but if you swap out the fabric you know but if you swap out the fabric you know but if you swap out the fabric you know a cotton for a linen for example a cotton for a linen for example a cotton for a linen for example suddenly you're like oh I'm incredibly suddenly you're like oh I'm incredibly suddenly you're like oh I'm incredibly more breathable yeah I haven't messed more breathable yeah I haven't messed more breathable yeah I haven't messed around with the crochet top yet I just I around with the crochet top yet I just I around with the crochet top yet I just I don't know what to do underneath cuz don't know what to do underneath cuz don't know what to do underneath cuz some of the the crochet is so loose it's some of the the crochet is so loose it's some of the the crochet is so loose it's like is it am I nude underneath you like is it am I nude underneath you like is it am I nude underneath you don't want you don't want one where like don't want you don't want one where like don't want you don't want one where like you can see nips like sometimes you do you can see nips like sometimes you do you can see nips like sometimes you do but like for an everyday office crochet but like for an everyday office crochet but like for an everyday office crochet like most of them are tight they have a like most of them are tight they have a like most of them are tight they have a tight enough weave that you're not tight enough weave that you're not tight enough weave that you're not breaking through yeah all right I'll breaking through yeah all right I'll breaking through yeah all right I'll consider it all right next question what consider it all right next question what consider it all right next question what is the hiring process for pro Church is the hiring process for pro Church is the hiring process for pro Church tools I mean honestly usually what tools I mean honestly usually what tools I mean honestly usually what happens is I just post a job listing on happens is I just post a job listing on happens is I just post a job listing on Instagram stories um that seems to have Instagram stories um that seems to have Instagram stories um that seems to have served you well for quite yeah like we served you well for quite yeah like we served you well for quite yeah like we usually have such usually have such usually have such demand that we get enough applications demand that we get enough applications demand that we get enough applications that we don't have to do anything more that we don't have to do anything more that we don't have to do anything more than that the Instagram has grown big than that the Instagram has grown big than that the Instagram has grown big enough I I I'm sure that there are enough I I I'm sure that there are enough I I I'm sure that there are better ways the nice thing about better ways the nice thing about better ways the nice thing about leveraging the Instagram platform is leveraging the Instagram platform is leveraging the Instagram platform is like there's 110,000 followers there like there's 110,000 followers there like there's 110,000 followers there right now and so what that means is like right now and so what that means is like right now and so what that means is like we have probably the largest database of we have probably the largest database of we have probably the largest database of like church creatives that we can access like church creatives that we can access like church creatives that we can access on demand now they're not on the email on demand now they're not on the email on demand now they're not on the email list and I don't want to send job stuff list and I don't want to send job stuff list and I don't want to send job stuff frequently over the email list what's so frequently over the email list what's so frequently over the email list what's so nice about Instagram stories is like it

nice about Instagram stories is like it nice about Instagram stories is like it hits people that really care and want to hits people that really care and want to hits people that really care and want to see it and it does seem that job see it and it does seem that job see it and it does seem that job listings perform really well on listings perform really well on listings perform really well on Instagram stories like we've talked Instagram stories like we've talked Instagram stories like we've talked about what performs well on stories you about what performs well on stories you about what performs well on stories you know just candid shots polls and if know just candid shots polls and if know just candid shots polls and if you're hiring seems to like work really you're hiring seems to like work really you're hiring seems to like work really well and so I can publish this and well and so I can publish this and well and so I can publish this and thousands of people see it we get enough thousands of people see it we get enough thousands of people see it we get enough applications we find the candidate that applications we find the candidate that applications we find the candidate that we want and what's really useful is they we want and what's really useful is they we want and what's really useful is they know us and so they're not coming in know us and so they're not coming in know us and so they're not coming in cold right um you know we even were cold right um you know we even were cold right um you know we even were interviewing someone the other day and interviewing someone the other day and interviewing someone the other day and they were Canadian and they were they were Canadian and they were they were Canadian and they were referred to us by somebody else referred to us by somebody else referred to us by somebody else and he was like yeah no I don't know who and he was like yeah no I don't know who and he was like yeah no I don't know who you are and then he was you are and then he was you are and then he was like oh you're that gu so even he wasn't like oh you're that gu so even he wasn't like oh you're that gu so even he wasn't like a follower cuz he wasn't in this like a follower cuz he wasn't in this like a follower cuz he wasn't in this industry um you know he was doing kind industry um you know he was doing kind industry um you know he was doing kind of like film outside of the church space of like film outside of the church space of like film outside of the church space But even he was like oh yeah no I've But even he was like oh yeah no I've But even he was like oh yeah no I've seen your I've seen your stuff and so seen your I've seen your stuff and so seen your I've seen your stuff and so that's pretty useful because you already that's pretty useful because you already that's pretty useful because you already have like trust and you have just shared have like trust and you have just shared have like trust and you have just shared understanding of what you're trying to understanding of what you're trying to understanding of what you're trying to accomplish which makes the candidates accomplish which makes the candidates accomplish which makes the candidates that you get like already qualified that you get like already qualified that you get like already qualified which which is awesome so follow the which which is awesome so follow the which which is awesome so follow the Instagram stories Instagram stories Instagram stories and you've been I mean there have been and you've been I mean there have been and you've been I mean there have been some like more opportunities recently some like more opportunities recently some like more opportunities recently than there ever have been sure seems to than there ever have been sure seems to than there ever have been sure seems to join the team in some capacity and work join the team in some capacity and work join the team in some capacity and work with us so keep your eyes peeled maybe with us so keep your eyes peeled maybe with us so keep your eyes peeled maybe even turn on notifications I'm just even turn on notifications I'm just even turn on notifications I'm just saying people do that anymore for saying people do that anymore for saying people do that anymore for stories yeah that's a thing I don't know stories yeah that's a thing I don't know stories yeah that's a thing I don't know can't you can't you just like turn on can't you can't you just like turn on can't you can't you just like turn on notifications for a profile for anything notifications for a profile for anything notifications for a profile for anything they do what about notes if I get a they do what about notes if I get a they do what about notes if I get a notification for a note so help me I

notification for a note so help me I notification for a note so help me I still I haven't had notes on my still I haven't had notes on my still I haven't had notes on my Instagram account in like a really long Instagram account in like a really long Instagram account in like a really long time my wife still has it on hers like time my wife still has it on hers like time my wife still has it on hers like yours the feature was removed yeah like yours the feature was removed yeah like yours the feature was removed yeah like I don't see notes I can't make one gone I don't see notes I can't make one gone I don't see notes I can't make one gone oh yeah you still have it on yours like oh yeah you still have it on yours like oh yeah you still have it on yours like people oh yeah I see notes all the time people oh yeah I see notes all the time people oh yeah I see notes all the time but you have to follow the person and but you have to follow the person and but you have to follow the person and they have to follow you so like I don't they have to follow you so like I don't they have to follow you so like I don't use them because I don't really follow use them because I don't really follow use them because I don't really follow too many people cuz I just follow too many people cuz I just follow too many people cuz I just follow accounts from fashion brands that make accounts from fashion brands that make accounts from fashion brands that make crochet tops right big drop tomorrow crochet tops right big drop tomorrow crochet tops right big drop tomorrow from about blank at this point it'll be from about blank at this point it'll be from about blank at this point it'll be in the past by the time you hear uh do in the past by the time you hear uh do in the past by the time you hear uh do you know when they're doing a drop do you know when they're doing a drop do you know when they're doing a drop do you know what to expect or it's just you know what to expect or it's just you know what to expect or it's just like no no I know there are some crochet like no no I know there are some crochet like no no I know there are some crochet tops like I know my size I know the tops like I know my size I know the tops like I know my size I know the colors that I want and I will be ready colors that I want and I will be ready colors that I want and I will be ready to go nice um I hope you're ready to go to go nice um I hope you're ready to go to go nice um I hope you're ready to go for this question this is the question for this question this is the question for this question this is the question you and I have both been waiting for you and I have both been waiting for you and I have both been waiting for okay you need to settle a debate between okay you need to settle a debate between okay you need to settle a debate between my wife and I oh Lord drinks in the my wife and I oh Lord drinks in the my wife and I oh Lord drinks in the shower yes or no maybe so we're going to shower yes or no maybe so we're going to shower yes or no maybe so we're going to get personal here okay so if you want to get personal here okay so if you want to get personal here okay so if you want to Breeze through the personal you're like Breeze through the personal you're like Breeze through the personal you're like I don't want to know Brady that much I I don't want to know Brady that much I I don't want to know Brady that much I understand depending on your imagination understand depending on your imagination understand depending on your imagination like I don't have a mind's I I've talked like I don't have a mind's I I've talked like I don't have a mind's I I've talked about this on the show before so like about this on the show before so like about this on the show before so like when we're talking about you and I and when we're talking about you and I and when we're talking about you and I and we're about to talk about us our shower we're about to talk about us our shower we're about to talk about us our shower habits if I was listening I wouldn't habits if I was listening I wouldn't habits if I was listening I wouldn't have like a mental picture but for the have like a mental picture but for the have like a mental picture but for the folks listening right for the folks folks listening right for the folks folks listening right for the folks listening it's like they might be they listening it's like they might be they listening it's like they might be they they might this might conjure up a they might this might conjure up a they might this might conjure up a mental picture they're they're not ready mental picture they're they're not ready mental picture they're they're not ready for well and if it didn't it did now you for well and if it didn't it did now you for well and if it didn't it did now you know just because your mind is blind know just because your mind is blind know just because your mind is blind doesn't mean everyone else everyone doesn't mean everyone else everyone doesn't mean everyone else everyone else's minds are activated so my wife else's minds are activated so my wife else's minds are activated so my wife and I frequently go in the shower not and I frequently go in the shower not and I frequently go in the shower not for the purpose of intimacy right for the purpose of intimacy right for the purpose of intimacy right recreationally we have a big shower recreationally we have a big shower recreationally we have a big shower there's plenty of room for both of us so

there's plenty of room for both of us so there's plenty of room for both of us so we just kind of hang out in there away we just kind of hang out in there away we just kind of hang out in there away from our kids no no not to be clean oh from our kids no no not to be clean oh from our kids no no not to be clean oh just like like almost like a sauna yeah just like like almost like a sauna yeah just like like almost like a sauna yeah cuz we just close it it steams up we cuz we just close it it steams up we cuz we just close it it steams up we don't have a sauna maybe we get one don't have a sauna maybe we get one don't have a sauna maybe we get one that'd be nice yeah but she has an issue that'd be nice yeah but she has an issue that'd be nice yeah but she has an issue she's not really Canadian yes she was she's not really Canadian yes she was she's not really Canadian yes she was born here I'm convinced that she doesn't born here I'm convinced that she doesn't born here I'm convinced that she doesn't belong here she has she doesn't look belong here she has she doesn't look belong here she has she doesn't look like she she does not have the skin like she she does not have the skin like she she does not have the skin color of a Canadian the complexion and color of a Canadian the complexion and color of a Canadian the complexion and she hates the cold even when it's May she hates the cold even when it's May she hates the cold even when it's May she's like it's not 85° out Fahrenheit she's like it's not 85° out Fahrenheit she's like it's not 85° out Fahrenheit she wouldn't say that I'm trying to she wouldn't say that I'm trying to she wouldn't say that I'm trying to contextualize um it's not 25 out like contextualize um it's not 25 out like contextualize um it's not 25 out like it's cold yeah so she'll have what she it's cold yeah so she'll have what she it's cold yeah so she'll have what she calls soaks soaks anyway she's in the calls soaks soaks anyway she's in the calls soaks soaks anyway she's in the last year she's like invited me to join last year she's like invited me to join last year she's like invited me to join the soaks again not for the purposes of the soaks again not for the purposes of the soaks again not for the purposes of intimacy just to chill chilling we're intimacy just to chill chilling we're intimacy just to chill chilling we're hanging out so one day we were on the hanging out so one day we were on the hanging out so one day we were on the company Retreat I know a lot about you I company Retreat I know a lot about you I company Retreat I know a lot about you I didn't know this about you well it's new didn't know this about you well it's new didn't know this about you well it's new okay on the company Retreat this year I okay on the company Retreat this year I okay on the company Retreat this year I was invited for a soak it's like great was invited for a soak it's like great was invited for a soak it's like great fun times and because we're on the fun times and because we're on the fun times and because we're on the company Retreat and all the fridges are company Retreat and all the fridges are company Retreat and all the fridges are stocked I grabbed a local Dominican Brew stocked I grabbed a local Dominican Brew stocked I grabbed a local Dominican Brew mhm so I'm in the shower and I crack mhm so I'm in the shower and I crack mhm so I'm in the shower and I crack open a cold one and the water is hot but open a cold one and the water is hot but open a cold one and the water is hot but the beer is cold and I like enter into the beer is cold and I like enter into the beer is cold and I like enter into this New Sensation that I had never this New Sensation that I had never this New Sensation that I had never experienced before have you experienced experienced before have you experienced experienced before have you experienced such sensation so you're going to be such sensation so you're going to be such sensation so you're going to be surprised to hear this that yes I have surprised to hear this that yes I have surprised to hear this that yes I have and I tried it because somebody here in and I tried it because somebody here in and I tried it because somebody here in this office it might have been Brandon this office it might have been Brandon this office it might have been Brandon canning brought up shower beers yes and canning brought up shower beers yes and canning brought up shower beers yes and I I know culturally that shower beers I I know culturally that shower beers I I know culturally that shower beers are a thing this was last summer it was

are a thing this was last summer it was are a thing this was last summer it was the perfect opportunity for a shower the perfect opportunity for a shower the perfect opportunity for a shower beer was like Saturday or something I'd beer was like Saturday or something I'd beer was like Saturday or something I'd been working outside oh yeah so I'm been working outside oh yeah so I'm been working outside oh yeah so I'm going inside you know I've got the grass going inside you know I've got the grass going inside you know I've got the grass on my legs cuz I've been I've been weed on my legs cuz I've been I've been weed on my legs cuz I've been I've been weed whacking out there what a man I got to whacking out there what a man I got to whacking out there what a man I got to get clean I was hot so same thing I'm get clean I was hot so same thing I'm get clean I was hot so same thing I'm like you know what this is the perfect like you know what this is the perfect like you know what this is the perfect opportunity for a shower beer Bishop opportunity for a shower beer Bishop opportunity for a shower beer Bishop Brew I tried it and I hated it oh and I Brew I tried it and I hated it oh and I Brew I tried it and I hated it oh and I don't I felt so disappointed in myself don't I felt so disappointed in myself don't I felt so disappointed in myself because I wanted to like it and because I wanted to like it and because I wanted to like it and conceptually it's smart it makes sense conceptually it's smart it makes sense conceptually it's smart it makes sense but I just like I it didn't was it the but I just like I it didn't was it the but I just like I it didn't was it the right beard it didn't connect for me I right beard it didn't connect for me I right beard it didn't connect for me I don't maybe like it was too heavy it was don't maybe like it was too heavy it was don't maybe like it was too heavy it was like maybe I needed like presid you from like maybe I needed like presid you from like maybe I needed like presid you from the or like a CO from downstairs or the or like a CO from downstairs or the or like a CO from downstairs or something but I just wasn't right but something but I just wasn't right but something but I just wasn't right but okay what I have tried is a shower okay what I have tried is a shower okay what I have tried is a shower coffee oh my God and I'm not just coffee oh my God and I'm not just coffee oh my God and I'm not just pedaling my coffee propaganda this is pedaling my coffee propaganda this is pedaling my coffee propaganda this is true you're such a sicko I really enjoy true you're such a sicko I really enjoy true you're such a sicko I really enjoy cuz I like a morning shower before work cuz I like a morning shower before work cuz I like a morning shower before work I really enjoy the shower I really enjoy the shower I really enjoy the shower coffee no coffee no coffee no that's you can't mix hot with hot it that's you can't mix hot with hot it that's you can't mix hot with hot it shouldn't work but it does for me shouldn't work but it does for me shouldn't work but it does for me you love a shower beer though yeah I you love a shower beer though yeah I you love a shower beer though yeah I think I've only had it now like two or think I've only had it now like two or think I've only had it now like two or three times you can't abuse it cuz then three times you can't abuse it cuz then three times you can't abuse it cuz then you just it turns out Bishi okay so and you just it turns out Bishi okay so and you just it turns out Bishi okay so and the thing is I have an origin story with the thing is I have an origin story with the thing is I have an origin story with this because when I was in my teenage this because when I was in my teenage this because when I was in my teenage years I would bring in a club soda to years I would bring in a club soda to years I would bring in a club soda to the shower and I was like a change same the shower and I was like a change same the shower and I was like a change same yeah cold bubbly drink hot shower and I yeah cold bubbly drink hot shower and I yeah cold bubbly drink hot shower and I always felt that like you know if you always felt that like you know if you always felt that like you know if you listening watching at home and you're listening watching at home and you're listening watching at home and you're like I don't know about food or drink in like I don't know about food or drink in like I don't know about food or drink in the shower like we've seen this Kramer

the shower like we've seen this Kramer the shower like we've seen this Kramer tried it it doesn't work I always tried it it doesn't work I always tried it it doesn't work I always thought it was fine with club soda thought it was fine with club soda thought it was fine with club soda because like that's water right water on because like that's water right water on because like that's water right water on water that's water with cold and so if water that's water with cold and so if water that's water with cold and so if hot water gets in the cold water it's hot water gets in the cold water it's hot water gets in the cold water it's still cold and it's just water and water still cold and it's just water and water still cold and it's just water and water you know with the beer that's 98% water you know with the beer that's 98% water you know with the beer that's 98% water okay fine my wife likes to do it with okay fine my wife likes to do it with okay fine my wife likes to do it with Starbucks Refreshers she doesn't drink Starbucks Refreshers she doesn't drink Starbucks Refreshers she doesn't drink coffee her only source of caffeine coffee her only source of caffeine coffee her only source of caffeine intake is pink drink so she's got pink intake is pink drink so she's got pink intake is pink drink so she's got pink drink in the shower that's cool water is drink in the shower that's cool water is drink in the shower that's cool water is hot because she's a woman scalding hot hot because she's a woman scalding hot hot because she's a woman scalding hot she has to stand and I have to sit it's she has to stand and I have to sit it's she has to stand and I have to sit it's too hot I have to wait till it gets cold too hot I have to wait till it gets cold too hot I have to wait till it gets cold at the bottom true story so then she at the bottom true story so then she at the bottom true story so then she crossed the crossed the crossed the line we're getting in the shower and line we're getting in the shower and line we're getting in the shower and she's like sup and I was like Su she's she's like sup and I was like Su she's she's like sup and I was like Su she's like no not that kind of St and I was like no not that kind of St and I was like no not that kind of St and I was like like like okay she's like instead of a drink today okay she's like instead of a drink today okay she's like instead of a drink today I thought we could get something else no I thought we could get something else no I thought we could get something else no she's like I ordered dominoes she's like I ordered dominoes she's like I ordered dominoes wellow luckily unlike some freaks she wellow luckily unlike some freaks she wellow luckily unlike some freaks she had not yet crossed over from the cold had not yet crossed over from the cold had not yet crossed over from the cold into the hot she's like let's get into the hot she's like let's get into the hot she's like let's get blizzards and I think to myself I don't know man and I think to myself I don't know man like but I was like okay the blizzard is like but I was like okay the blizzard is like but I was like okay the blizzard is cold think about it critically and the cold think about it critically and the cold think about it critically and the shower is hot at this point that's all I shower is hot at this point that's all I shower is hot at this point that's all I think about cold and hot oh they're put think about cold and hot oh they're put think about cold and hot oh they're put together that's why I'm so offended by together that's why I'm so offended by together that's why I'm so offended by your practice so the blizzards arrive your practice so the blizzards arrive your practice so the blizzards arrive and I'm sitting there and she's got her and I'm sitting there and she's got her and I'm sitting there and she's got her back to the water and she's just eating back to the water and she's just eating back to the water and she's just eating she's like this is great huh and I'm she's like this is great huh and I'm she's like this is great huh and I'm like get your get your water out of my like get your get your water out of my like get your get your water out of my the water keep kind like flicking and the water keep kind like flicking and the water keep kind like flicking and I'm like wait a minute the DQ Blizzard

I'm like wait a minute the DQ Blizzard I'm like wait a minute the DQ Blizzard is already on a time crunch it's already is already on a time crunch it's already is already on a time crunch it's already a ticking Time Bomb of like it's a steam a ticking Time Bomb of like it's a steam a ticking Time Bomb of like it's a steam room in here it's a soft ter to froth room in here it's a soft ter to froth room in here it's a soft ter to froth real like so I'm racing and I'm like real like so I'm racing and I'm like real like so I'm racing and I'm like shoveling like trying to finish it I shoveling like trying to finish it I shoveling like trying to finish it I can't put it down you know what I hate can't put it down you know what I hate can't put it down you know what I hate about pasas and burritos I never feel about pasas and burritos I never feel about pasas and burritos I never feel like I can put them down like I want to like I can put them down like I want to like I can put them down like I want to be able to take a break from my dinner be able to take a break from my dinner be able to take a break from my dinner this is not a marathon I want to pause I this is not a marathon I want to pause I this is not a marathon I want to pause I can't pause I'm just shoveling soft can't pause I'm just shoveling soft can't pause I'm just shoveling soft serve and Reese's Pieces chunks and serve and Reese's Pieces chunks and serve and Reese's Pieces chunks and she's just like I'm so glad I could she's just like I'm so glad I could she's just like I'm so glad I could share this with you I'm like this is share this with you I'm like this is share this with you I'm like this is offensive it's not and you crossed the offensive it's not and you crossed the offensive it's not and you crossed the line into debauchery so has she repeated line into debauchery so has she repeated line into debauchery so has she repeated the blizzard Behavior Uh like in her own the blizzard Behavior Uh like in her own the blizzard Behavior Uh like in her own personal time or is that like a one time personal time or is that like a one time personal time or is that like a one time no that was just last week and I was no that was just last week and I was no that was just last week and I was like so repulsed by it I hope it never like so repulsed by it I hope it never like so repulsed by it I hope it never happens again happens again happens again right is not where I expected that to go right is not where I expected that to go right is not where I expected that to go we've been talking a lot about blizzards we've been talking a lot about blizzards we've been talking a lot about blizzards here in the office I'm surprised it here in the office I'm surprised it here in the office I'm surprised it hasn't come up yet well it's summer and hasn't come up yet well it's summer and hasn't come up yet well it's summer and I just want ice cream all the time and I I just want ice cream all the time and I I just want ice cream all the time and I really can't have ice cream all the time really can't have ice cream all the time really can't have ice cream all the time yeah give it a try though what time of yeah give it a try though what time of yeah give it a try though what time of day was that time of day where you day was that time of day where you day was that time of day where you always night it's it's Escape your kids always night it's it's Escape your kids always night it's it's Escape your kids right like kids go to bed and it's like right like kids go to bed and it's like right like kids go to bed and it's like do not come near us yeah close the do not come near us yeah close the do not come near us yeah close the bedroom door close the bathroom door bedroom door close the bathroom door bedroom door close the bathroom door close the shower door we're three doors close the shower door we're three doors close the shower door we're three doors away yes away yes away yes yeah okay next question uh in order uh yeah okay next question uh in order uh yeah okay next question uh in order uh from the randomizer what are your view from the randomizer what are your view from the randomizer what are your view on having tattoos especially as a leader on having tattoos especially as a leader on having tattoos especially as a leader in the church yeah okay in the church yeah okay in the church yeah okay so this question comes in in

so this question comes in in so this question comes in in pretty often Brady famously thoroughly pretty often Brady famously thoroughly pretty often Brady famously thoroughly tattooed me I mean maybe not famously tattooed me I mean maybe not famously tattooed me I mean maybe not famously because you can't see my entire body but because you can't see my entire body but because you can't see my entire body but not tattooed at all but in the same way not tattooed at all but in the same way not tattooed at all but in the same way that he was not a drinker before joining that he was not a drinker before joining that he was not a drinker before joining this company okay a drinker this company okay a drinker this company okay a drinker easy but you're right I didn't I didn't easy but you're right I didn't I didn't easy but you're right I didn't I didn't drink alcohol before joining this drink alcohol before joining this drink alcohol before joining this company and now it's company and now it's company and now it's just I'm drink you not a a drinker just I'm drink you not a a drinker just I'm drink you not a a drinker before and now you drink which makes you before and now you drink which makes you before and now you drink which makes you a drinker yes and I have I I didn't call a drinker yes and I have I I didn't call a drinker yes and I have I I didn't call you a drunk I really do have have like a you a drunk I really do have have like a you a drunk I really do have have like a deep interest in tattoos but but I fear deep interest in tattoos but but I fear deep interest in tattoos but but I fear that if I were to start tattooing my that if I were to start tattooing my that if I were to start tattooing my body I wouldn't stop and I'm not body I wouldn't stop and I'm not body I wouldn't stop and I'm not prepared for that um so not tattooed yet prepared for that um so not tattooed yet prepared for that um so not tattooed yet and I guarantee everyone and I guarantee everyone and I guarantee everyone listening that that is temporary if I I listening that that is temporary if I I listening that that is temporary if I I there's a a tattoo shop in the in the there's a a tattoo shop in the in the there's a a tattoo shop in the in the Holy Land in Jerusalem that if if I do a Holy Land in Jerusalem that if if I do a Holy Land in Jerusalem that if if I do a holy land trip which I've never done holy land trip which I've never done holy land trip which I've never done uh and I'm in the vicinity I I will go uh and I'm in the vicinity I I will go uh and I'm in the vicinity I I will go to that tattoo shop and I will be to that tattoo shop and I will be to that tattoo shop and I will be tattooed right so at the very least all tattooed right so at the very least all tattooed right so at the very least all I have to do right now excluded is book I have to do right now excluded is book I have to do right now excluded is book of FL so this is what I mean we're like of FL so this is what I mean we're like of FL so this is what I mean we're like it depends on how desperate I'm going to it depends on how desperate I'm going to it depends on how desperate I'm going to get like if we're approaching 40 and it get like if we're approaching 40 and it get like if we're approaching 40 and it hasn't happened yet then it's like happy hasn't happened yet then it's like happy hasn't happened yet then it's like happy 40th we're going right but I'm pretty 40th we're going right but I'm pretty 40th we're going right but I'm pretty confident it feels this is this is a confident it feels this is this is a confident it feels this is this is a tipping okay so in tipping okay so in tipping okay so in Leviticus we have one verse yeah it's Leviticus we have one verse yeah it's Leviticus we have one verse yeah it's 1928 and it's just don't get to tattoo 1928 and it's just don't get to tattoo 1928 and it's just don't get to tattoo on your body mhm and that is the

on your body mhm and that is the on your body mhm and that is the reference that's used you could really reference that's used you could really reference that's used you could really stretch it and be like ah your body is a stretch it and be like ah your body is a stretch it and be like ah your body is a temple okay well what does that have to temple okay well what does that have to temple okay well what does that have to I mean that's that's why I care about I mean that's that's why I care about I mean that's that's why I care about fiber intake and saturated fat right not fiber intake and saturated fat right not fiber intake and saturated fat right not like oh I put the dove for the Holy like oh I put the dove for the Holy like oh I put the dove for the Holy Spirit on Spirit on Spirit on me the verse directly me the verse directly me the verse directly before that is don't shave your face before that is don't shave your face before that is don't shave your face interestingly no one has ever accused me interestingly no one has ever accused me interestingly no one has ever accused me of not letting the sideburns grow right of not letting the sideburns grow right of not letting the sideburns grow right so at the very least we have to consider so at the very least we have to consider so at the very least we have to consider is this a cultural thing or is this a is this a cultural thing or is this a is this a cultural thing or is this a textual thing and and my belief is that textual thing and and my belief is that textual thing and and my belief is that this is a cultural thing yeah now In this is a cultural thing yeah now In this is a cultural thing yeah now In fairness to people that would use fairness to people that would use fairness to people that would use Leviticus be like what are you just Leviticus be like what are you just Leviticus be like what are you just saying everything in there is like saying everything in there is like saying everything in there is like useless no because the verse right after useless no because the verse right after useless no because the verse right after says don't make your daughter a Pros to says don't make your daughter a Pros to says don't make your daughter a Pros to which I believe in so yes I am picking which I believe in so yes I am picking which I believe in so yes I am picking and choosing right your thoughts I mean and choosing right your thoughts I mean and choosing right your thoughts I mean so this is so this is so this is um man it's just something about this um man it's just something about this um man it's just something about this episode has just got me like like episode has just got me like like episode has just got me like like thinking like it's just ruminating on thinking like it's just ruminating on thinking like it's just ruminating on the Apostle Paul because I just I hear the Apostle Paul because I just I hear the Apostle Paul because I just I hear him talking about how like all things him talking about how like all things him talking about how like all things are are permissible but not everything are are permissible but not everything are are permissible but not everything is profitable and the reason I'm is profitable and the reason I'm is profitable and the reason I'm bringing that up is because there's an bringing that up is because there's an bringing that up is because there's an amendment to this question was amendment to this question was amendment to this question was especially as a Christian leader and I especially as a Christian leader and I especially as a Christian leader and I think that's a that's a question worth think that's a that's a question worth think that's a that's a question worth asking in the context of this asking in the context of this asking in the context of this conversation in the context of drinking conversation in the context of drinking conversation in the context of drinking in the context of like a lot of things

in the context of like a lot of things in the context of like a lot of things where it's like okay lizard's in the where it's like okay lizard's in the where it's like okay lizard's in the shower well maybe I have this public shower well maybe I have this public shower well maybe I have this public life and I am committed in my case as a life and I am committed in my case as a life and I am committed in my case as a pastor you're a Christian leader but as pastor you're a Christian leader but as pastor you're a Christian leader but as a pastor I'm committed to taking care of a pastor I'm committed to taking care of a pastor I'm committed to taking care of like a real group of people in a real like a real group of people in a real like a real group of people in a real place at a real time and so maybe all place at a real time and so maybe all place at a real time and so maybe all things are permissible maybe I can get things are permissible maybe I can get things are permissible maybe I can get tattoos which I believe in like like I tattoos which I believe in like like I tattoos which I believe in like like I think it's permissible to get tattoos as think it's permissible to get tattoos as think it's permissible to get tattoos as a Christian and as a Christian leader a Christian and as a Christian leader a Christian and as a Christian leader but like is it profitable in my context but like is it profitable in my context but like is it profitable in my context or drinking okay I I think Alexander I or drinking okay I I think Alexander I or drinking okay I I think Alexander I think that drinking is permissible as a think that drinking is permissible as a think that drinking is permissible as a Christian but is it is it um fruitful in Christian but is it is it um fruitful in Christian but is it is it um fruitful in the context of the community that I I'm the context of the community that I I'm the context of the community that I I'm committed to and that's a question that committed to and that's a question that committed to and that's a question that everyone must ask of themselves and can everyone must ask of themselves and can everyone must ask of themselves and can only answer for themselves in the only answer for themselves in the only answer for themselves in the context of like where you live and where context of like where you live and where context of like where you live and where you work and what you do so that would you work and what you do so that would you work and what you do so that would be my answer which is like yeah I'm be my answer which is like yeah I'm be my answer which is like yeah I'm pretty sure that tattooing your body in pretty sure that tattooing your body in pretty sure that tattooing your body in the same way that like piercing your the same way that like piercing your the same way that like piercing your body or like if you're a woman or a man body or like if you're a woman or a man body or like if you're a woman or a man if if you want to like tattoo some if if you want to like tattoo some if if you want to like tattoo some Permanent eyeliner or like um eyebrows Permanent eyeliner or like um eyebrows Permanent eyeliner or like um eyebrows that's popular now like no yeah you know that's popular now like no yeah you know that's popular now like no yeah you know like I and not too many people are are like I and not too many people are are like I and not too many people are are arguing about that but I I believe all arguing about that but I I believe all arguing about that but I I believe all that to be permissible um in in the that to be permissible um in in the that to be permissible um in in the sight of God in the eyes of God and I I sight of God in the eyes of God and I I sight of God in the eyes of God and I I I don't believe it's inherently an I don't believe it's inherently an I don't believe it's inherently an Unholy thing to do with your body but is Unholy thing to do with your body but is Unholy thing to do with your body but is it fruitful in the community that you're it fruitful in the community that you're it fruitful in the community that you're committed to well that's only a question committed to well that's only a question committed to well that's only a question that that you can answer and for that that that you can answer and for that that that you can answer and for that reason I don't think there's a right or reason I don't think there's a right or reason I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this question I think wrong answer to this question I think wrong answer to this question I think it's much like a lot of these questions it's much like a lot of these questions it's much like a lot of these questions is dependent on the context that that is dependent on the context that that is dependent on the context that that you live in and that you serve in when you live in and that you serve in when you live in and that you serve in when will you and what your mom says sure

will you and what your mom says sure will you and what your mom says sure sure um oh okay that's when will you get sure um oh okay that's when will you get sure um oh okay that's when will you get BOTOX yeah and Botox is not on my list BOTOX yeah and Botox is not on my list BOTOX yeah and Botox is not on my list of things to to do the reason I bring it of things to to do the reason I bring it of things to to do the reason I bring it up is because more than one person has up is because more than one person has up is because more than one person has said where did you get your Botox to me said where did you get your Botox to me said where did you get your Botox to me you where do they think you have it I you where do they think you have it I you where do they think you have it I don't know your forehead probably why I don't know your forehead probably why I don't know your forehead probably why I don't know it's just like I get it I don't know it's just like I get it I don't know it's just like I get it I have a big forhead it's a nice one you have a big forhead it's a nice one you have a big forhead it's a nice one you know what no it's a nice one so I have know what no it's a nice one so I have know what no it's a nice one so I have had cosmetic procedures done on my face had cosmetic procedures done on my face had cosmetic procedures done on my face okay because I had really bad cystic okay because I had really bad cystic okay because I had really bad cystic acne right so I got Accutane and then I acne right so I got Accutane and then I acne right so I got Accutane and then I had procedures to minimize the scaring had procedures to minimize the scaring had procedures to minimize the scaring right and they did not eliminate the we right and they did not eliminate the we right and they did not eliminate the we talk about this on the show yeah they talk about this on the show yeah they talk about this on the show yeah they are very are very are very painful very very painful and remove painful very very painful and remove painful very very painful and remove that I don't know why I'm bringing this that I don't know why I'm bringing this that I don't know why I'm bringing this up it's just funny because the answer to up it's just funny because the answer to up it's just funny because the answer to your question is like will my culture your question is like will my culture your question is like will my culture abide by this not even like is the Bible abide by this not even like is the Bible abide by this not even like is the Bible okay with this which I think is really okay with this which I think is really okay with this which I think is really important to bring that to light because important to bring that to light because important to bring that to light because we so so often take what culture will we so so often take what culture will we so so often take what culture will not abide and we use that and like we not abide and we use that and like we not abide and we use that and like we masquerade that as here's what the Bible masquerade that as here's what the Bible masquerade that as here's what the Bible says the Bible doesn't say that we're says the Bible doesn't say that we're says the Bible doesn't say that we're just saying our cultural culture won't just saying our cultural culture won't just saying our cultural culture won't abide by it which my initial instinct is abide by it which my initial instinct is abide by it which my initial instinct is then well if it's just cultural then I then well if it's just cultural then I then well if it's just cultural then I can do what I want what you're saying can do what I want what you're saying can do what I want what you're saying which is so fascinating is like no which is so fascinating is like no which is so fascinating is like no there's value there's actually a reason there's value there's actually a reason there's value there's actually a reason to do something or not do something to do something or not do something to do something or not do something because the culture won't abide by it because the culture won't abide by it because the culture won't abide by it even if the Bible is fine with it right even if the Bible is fine with it right even if the Bible is fine with it right which is just crazy and this is why I which is just crazy and this is why I which is just crazy and this is why I think this tattoo question is sometimes think this tattoo question is sometimes think this tattoo question is sometimes easily dismiss missed because like about easily dismiss missed because like about easily dismiss missed because like about half of Millennials have half of Millennials have half of Millennials have tattoos so it's not an issue for us

tattoos so it's not an issue for us tattoos so it's not an issue for us culturally but previous generations it culturally but previous generations it culturally but previous generations it was so rare and in really previous was so rare and in really previous was so rare and in really previous generations like it meant something to generations like it meant something to generations like it meant something to have a tattoo like it was like oh so have a tattoo like it was like oh so have a tattoo like it was like oh so you're saying you are like in this group you're saying you are like in this group you're saying you are like in this group right you have this history and so right you have this history and so right you have this history and so that's really just fascinating to think that's really just fascinating to think that's really just fascinating to think because culturally I I always I'm like because culturally I I always I'm like because culturally I I always I'm like well look look at this line I've drawn well look look at this line I've drawn well look look at this line I've drawn oh you'll give your child braces but you oh you'll give your child braces but you oh you'll give your child braces but you won't get BOTOX well found an won't get BOTOX well found an won't get BOTOX well found an inconsistency aren I smart the inconsistency aren I smart the inconsistency aren I smart the pragmatist did it again and I guess I'm pragmatist did it again and I guess I'm pragmatist did it again and I guess I'm I'm just considering the cultural side I'm just considering the cultural side I'm just considering the cultural side of it because like botox to me is of it because like botox to me is of it because like botox to me is actually like this scary thing that I'm actually like this scary thing that I'm actually like this scary thing that I'm like I I don't no I would not get that like I I don't no I would not get that like I I don't no I would not get that type of like procedure even though it's type of like procedure even though it's type of like procedure even though it's becoming so much more common place I becoming so much more common place I becoming so much more common place I always find it strange when I go to like always find it strange when I go to like always find it strange when I go to like a place where let's say I go to the a place where let's say I go to the a place where let's say I go to the dentist or when I was going to the dentist or when I was going to the dentist or when I was going to the dermatologist to do my face like and dermatologist to do my face like and dermatologist to do my face like and he's like and and and it came up he's he's like and and and it came up he's he's like and and and it came up he's like yeah like literally every single like yeah like literally every single like yeah like literally every single person that works here has lip filler person that works here has lip filler person that works here has lip filler and bowo and I was like I wouldn't have and bowo and I was like I wouldn't have and bowo and I was like I wouldn't have even known right maybe because I'm blind even known right maybe because I'm blind even known right maybe because I'm blind to these types of things because I don't to these types of things because I don't to these types of things because I don't really know they exist like oh would you really know they exist like oh would you really know they exist like oh would you stop start shopping for the car you see stop start shopping for the car you see stop start shopping for the car you see it everywhere but just rambling at this it everywhere but just rambling at this it everywhere but just rambling at this point but when are you going to get the point but when are you going to get the point but when are you going to get the botox uh no no no Botox uh on the botox uh no no no Botox uh on the botox uh no no no Botox uh on the horizon for me but I actually just this horizon for me but I actually just this horizon for me but I actually just this past weekend I said to my dad I said past weekend I said to my dad I said past weekend I said to my dad I said like I said I need I need you to help like I said I need I need you to help like I said I need I need you to help keep me accountable to this I have this keep me accountable to this I have this keep me accountable to this I have this dream of going to the Holy Land like dream of going to the Holy Land like dream of going to the Holy Land like with a PCI specific person to do like a with a PCI specific person to do like a with a PCI specific person to do like a a like a pilgrimage with a specific a like a pilgrimage with a specific a like a pilgrimage with a specific person and I I re call it like a bucket person and I I re call it like a bucket person and I I re call it like a bucket list item if you will but it's like

list item if you will but it's like list item if you will but it's like something I really want to do like with something I really want to do like with something I really want to do like with my life certainly before I die but it's my life certainly before I die but it's my life certainly before I die but it's one of those things that like it's big one of those things that like it's big one of those things that like it's big time it's big expense like it's time it's big expense like it's time it's big expense like it's something that you could dream about but something that you could dream about but something that you could dream about but really easily just like not end up doing really easily just like not end up doing really easily just like not end up doing and I asked my dad I'm like can you keep and I asked my dad I'm like can you keep and I asked my dad I'm like can you keep me accountable to this like to doing it me accountable to this like to doing it me accountable to this like to doing it yes um and so it just seems like an inev yes um and so it just seems like an inev yes um and so it just seems like an inev inevitability that I not Botox but that inevitability that I not Botox but that inevitability that I not Botox but that I will get tattooed cuz if like I said I will get tattooed cuz if like I said I will get tattooed cuz if like I said you're going to be there if I go there you're going to be there if I go there you're going to be there if I go there and am in the proximity of that tattoo and am in the proximity of that tattoo and am in the proximity of that tattoo shop I will mark my body well this does shop I will mark my body well this does shop I will mark my body well this does put a little bit of a wrench in my plan put a little bit of a wrench in my plan put a little bit of a wrench in my plan because now I wouldn't feel great about because now I wouldn't feel great about because now I wouldn't feel great about being the one that books this ticket to being the one that books this ticket to being the one that books this ticket to this pilgrimage when you're like well I this pilgrimage when you're like well I this pilgrimage when you're like well I was supposed to do this pilgrimage with was supposed to do this pilgrimage with was supposed to do this pilgrimage with this other person and I was going to get this other person and I was going to get this other person and I was going to get that tattoo then and I was like well you that tattoo then and I was like well you that tattoo then and I was like well you told me to hold you accountable so sorry told me to hold you accountable so sorry told me to hold you accountable so sorry to that person but we're to that person but we're to that person but we're going all right next question was there going all right next question was there going all right next question was there a social or communication Trend that you a social or communication Trend that you a social or communication Trend that you didn't see coming but that really blew didn't see coming but that really blew didn't see coming but that really blew up I'm usually pretty good with these up I'm usually pretty good with these up I'm usually pretty good with these didn't see coming but really what about didn't see coming but really what about didn't see coming but really what about like the Inception of meme culture I like the Inception of meme culture I like the Inception of meme culture I mean I I know like I I I've been on the mean I I know like I I I've been on the mean I I know like I I I've been on the memes I mean if you think about some of memes I mean if you think about some of memes I mean if you think about some of the earliest versions of the social the earliest versions of the social the earliest versions of the social program that we did for churches like program that we did for churches like program that we did for churches like seven years ago we would try to include seven years ago we would try to include seven years ago we would try to include as many memes and like comedic elements as many memes and like comedic elements as many memes and like comedic elements as possible and churches were often very as possible and churches were often very as possible and churches were often very resistant of it because they were like resistant of it because they were like resistant of it because they were like like this is too light-hearted and I was like this is too light-hearted and I was like this is too light-hearted and I was like man I heard your sermons you were like man I heard your sermons you were like man I heard your sermons you were joking like let's have some fun online joking like let's have some fun online joking like let's have some fun online too surprised because but even back then too surprised because but even back then too surprised because but even back then like memes were something that you and I like memes were something that you and I like memes were something that you and I like like digital natives who it was

like like digital natives who it was like like digital natives who it was like part of our online lexicon like like part of our online lexicon like like part of our online lexicon like when you had to speak in memes I'm when you had to speak in memes I'm when you had to speak in memes I'm surprised that it has transcended like surprised that it has transcended like surprised that it has transcended like the stratification of social like there the stratification of social like there the stratification of social like there are there's meme culture across all are there's meme culture across all are there's meme culture across all social platforms and all generations social platforms and all generations social platforms and all generations like my dad is sending me memes all the like my dad is sending me memes all the like my dad is sending me memes all the time and I'm like I could have never time and I'm like I could have never time and I'm like I could have never dreamt that we would be sharing these dreamt that we would be sharing these dreamt that we would be sharing these things back and forth like that you things back and forth like that you things back and forth like that you would speak this language I couldn't would speak this language I couldn't would speak this language I couldn't have imagined that I did make that have imagined that I did make that have imagined that I did make that Instagram real about the stock photo Instagram real about the stock photo Instagram real about the stock photo site that was saying unsplash and it's site that was saying unsplash and it's site that was saying unsplash and it's cinematic photos with shot up the field cinematic photos with shot up the field cinematic photos with shot up the field and texture is code for like old person and texture is code for like old person and texture is code for like old person right and so we create and curate stock right and so we create and curate stock right and so we create and curate stock photos that actually look like ugc it photos that actually look like ugc it photos that actually look like ugc it actually looks like it was shot on your actually looks like it was shot on your actually looks like it was shot on your phone and I was like what but why I phone and I was like what but why I phone and I was like what but why I don't know why that shocked me don't know why that shocked me don't know why that shocked me because it's not lost on me that because it's not lost on me that because it's not lost on me that shooting social videos on your phone is shooting social videos on your phone is shooting social videos on your phone is code for this is organic this is code for this is organic this is code for this is organic this is authentic this is not staged or scripted authentic this is not staged or scripted authentic this is not staged or scripted you should trust me so I don't know why you should trust me so I don't know why you should trust me so I don't know why just I didn't assume with stock photos just I didn't assume with stock photos just I didn't assume with stock photos that that would translate in the same that that would translate in the same that that would translate in the same way MH I used that site this morning by way MH I used that site this morning by way MH I used that site this morning by the way really yeah how'd it go I I mean the way really yeah how'd it go I I mean the way really yeah how'd it go I I mean I I've used it a handful of times but I I I've used it a handful of times but I I I've used it a handful of times but I used it for a social post uh for our used it for a social post uh for our used it for a social post uh for our church because I was looking for a church because I was looking for a church because I was looking for a specific type of uh background I went to specific type of uh background I went to specific type of uh background I went to unsplash could not unsplash could not unsplash could not find and it's funny because when I was find and it's funny because when I was find and it's funny because when I was looking I wasn't putting this language looking I wasn't putting this language looking I wasn't putting this language to it but I'm realizing now as I'm to it but I'm realizing now as I'm to it but I'm realizing now as I'm regurgitating it that like I was looking

regurgitating it that like I was looking regurgitating it that like I was looking for something that looked like I shot it for something that looked like I shot it for something that looked like I shot it on my phone and I I wasn't having that on my phone and I I wasn't having that on my phone and I I wasn't having that thought when I was searching on unsplash thought when I was searching on unsplash thought when I was searching on unsplash cuz I use unsplash all the time and I cuz I use unsplash all the time and I cuz I use unsplash all the time and I went there and I was like The Vibes are went there and I was like The Vibes are went there and I was like The Vibes are just not what I'm looking for so I went just not what I'm looking for so I went just not what I'm looking for so I went to dup photos.com or whatever it is and to dup photos.com or whatever it is and to dup photos.com or whatever it is and found exactly what I was looking for J found exactly what I was looking for J found exactly what I was looking for J DD picture of like some it's like a I DD picture of like some it's like a I DD picture of like some it's like a I don't know it just looks like an don't know it just looks like an don't know it just looks like an abstract photo that someone took on abstract photo that someone took on abstract photo that someone took on their phone because I wanted to make a their phone because I wanted to make a their phone because I wanted to make a post for social that had like a post for social that had like a post for social that had like a scripture verse on it but I just didn't scripture verse on it but I just didn't scripture verse on it but I just didn't want it to look the way unsplash is want it to look the way unsplash is want it to look the way unsplash is serve me up images you're saying it was serve me up images you're saying it was serve me up images you're saying it was not Choy yeah yeah that's what I'm not Choy yeah yeah that's what I'm not Choy yeah yeah that's what I'm saying you know what one Trend that I saying you know what one Trend that I saying you know what one Trend that I didn't see coming was Instagram stories didn't see coming was Instagram stories didn't see coming was Instagram stories biting off Snapchat stories yikes that biting off Snapchat stories yikes that biting off Snapchat stories yikes that one CAU me by surprise yeah I was like one CAU me by surprise yeah I was like one CAU me by surprise yeah I was like oh Snapchat stories like this is the oh Snapchat stories like this is the oh Snapchat stories like this is the next in a legacy of social platforms next in a legacy of social platforms next in a legacy of social platforms that introduce a new feature and the that introduce a new feature and the that introduce a new feature and the other platforms will not be able to copy other platforms will not be able to copy other platforms will not be able to copy them like Facebook didn't try to copy them like Facebook didn't try to copy them like Facebook didn't try to copy Instagram they just bought Instagram so Instagram they just bought Instagram so Instagram they just bought Instagram so at that time this is 2016 we're all at that time this is 2016 we're all at that time this is 2016 we're all talking about is Facebook or Instagram talking about is Facebook or Instagram talking about is Facebook or Instagram going to buy Snapchat and we now know going to buy Snapchat and we now know going to buy Snapchat and we now know that they tried Facebook famously bought that they tried Facebook famously bought that they tried Facebook famously bought Instagram for a billion and everyone Instagram for a billion and everyone Instagram for a billion and everyone thought that it was a ridiculous number thought that it was a ridiculous number thought that it was a ridiculous number to ever consider now looks like one of to ever consider now looks like one of to ever consider now looks like one of the best Acquisitions in you know Tech the best Acquisitions in you know Tech the best Acquisitions in you know Tech History Facebook asked Evan and snap History Facebook asked Evan and snap History Facebook asked Evan and snap they said we we'll give you three they said we we'll give you three they said we we'll give you three and Snapchat said no wow and then Mark's and Snapchat said no wow and then Mark's and Snapchat said no wow and then Mark's like bet yeah watch this and now like like bet yeah watch this and now like like bet yeah watch this and now like Snapchat's still around like they they Snapchat's still around like they they Snapchat's still around like they they didn't

didn't didn't disappear I don't know too much about disappear I don't know too much about disappear I don't know too much about their economics but like I wonder if their economics but like I wonder if their economics but like I wonder if that three billion like was like was that three billion like was like was that three billion like was like was that was that their best chance or or or that was that their best chance or or or that was that their best chance or or or or would they have preferred to stay or would they have preferred to stay or would they have preferred to stay independent and it doesn't mean as much independent and it doesn't mean as much independent and it doesn't mean as much money but they get to do their own thing money but they get to do their own thing money but they get to do their own thing and not be you know part of the Empire I and not be you know part of the Empire I and not be you know part of the Empire I don't know yeah all right moving on have don't know yeah all right moving on have don't know yeah all right moving on have you ever considered sharing more you ever considered sharing more you ever considered sharing more lifestyle content like clothing Health lifestyle content like clothing Health lifestyle content like clothing Health travel Etc uh yes basically once a year travel Etc uh yes basically once a year travel Etc uh yes basically once a year yeah we try it about once a year once a yeah we try it about once a year once a yeah we try it about once a year once a year I film a pilot for the YouTube year I film a pilot for the YouTube year I film a pilot for the YouTube channel and I'm like this is the time channel and I'm like this is the time channel and I'm like this is the time guys we're going for it and then we get guys we're going for it and then we get guys we're going for it and then we get through production and you know I'm through production and you know I'm through production and you know I'm feeling great in pre-production and feeling great in pre-production and feeling great in pre-production and production itself is fine and then production itself is fine and then production itself is fine and then postproduction as hell and I'm like postproduction as hell and I'm like postproduction as hell and I'm like every week I I I can't do this now with every week I I I can't do this now with every week I I I can't do this now with that being said we talked earlier on that being said we talked earlier on that being said we talked earlier on this episode this episode this episode about evaluating YouTube and how we're about evaluating YouTube and how we're about evaluating YouTube and how we're not seeing the same traction there that not seeing the same traction there that not seeing the same traction there that we have in previous years and what that we have in previous years and what that we have in previous years and what that might mean for the future of the channel might mean for the future of the channel might mean for the future of the channel and so we are once again exploring what and so we are once again exploring what and so we are once again exploring what Youtube it'll be different this time Youtube it'll be different this time Youtube it'll be different this time yeah I want to say it but I at least yeah I want to say it but I at least yeah I want to say it but I at least we're trying something we're try we're trying something we're try we're trying something we're try something different we're trying not me something different we're trying not me something different we're trying not me I am not going to be the champion of the I am not going to be the champion of the I am not going to be the champion of the pre during and post- production process pre during and post- production process pre during and post- production process like yes I'm working on the chapters for like yes I'm working on the chapters for like yes I'm working on the chapters for the videos and and compiling the story the videos and and compiling the story the videos and and compiling the story but championing someone else to actually but championing someone else to actually but championing someone else to actually see it through and hopefully that will see it through and hopefully that will see it through and hopefully that will allow us to bring a new type of content allow us to bring a new type of content allow us to bring a new type of content to the YouTube channel that is both to the YouTube channel that is both to the YouTube channel that is both content focused but also Community

content focused but also Community content focused but also Community focused so like it's lifestyle so you focused so like it's lifestyle so you focused so like it's lifestyle so you can track the Journey of the company but can track the Journey of the company but can track the Journey of the company but you're still going to get the typical you're still going to get the typical you're still going to get the typical value from it now those are not two easy value from it now those are not two easy value from it now those are not two easy things to intersect they're they're kind things to intersect they're they're kind things to intersect they're they're kind of at odds with each other and so we're of at odds with each other and so we're of at odds with each other and so we're exploring and this is part of the exploring and this is part of the exploring and this is part of the pre-production process like how do you pre-production process like how do you pre-production process like how do you weave them together in ways that feel weave them together in ways that feel weave them together in ways that feel organic and and I think I think we've organic and and I think I think we've organic and and I think I think we've cracked the code on like how to do it cracked the code on like how to do it cracked the code on like how to do it like like like broadly and now it's just going to get broadly and now it's just going to get broadly and now it's just going to get down to like specifics because a lot of down to like specifics because a lot of down to like specifics because a lot of this stuff you know the difference this stuff you know the difference this stuff you know the difference between an unsplash photo and a dup between an unsplash photo and a dup between an unsplash photo and a dup photos.com photo it's like well are photos.com photo it's like well are photos.com photo it's like well are these not just both photos of phones no these not just both photos of phones no these not just both photos of phones no no this one is authentic and this one is no this one is authentic and this one is no this one is authentic and this one is fraudulent how many years have you been fraudulent how many years have you been fraudulent how many years have you been posting to YouTube 10 yeah 10 and how posting to YouTube 10 yeah 10 and how posting to YouTube 10 yeah 10 and how many videos 600 do you think that it's many videos 600 do you think that it's many videos 600 do you think that it's been especially challenging for us been especially challenging for us been especially challenging for us because objectively the times we've because objectively the times we've because objectively the times we've tried this the content like the content tried this the content like the content tried this the content like the content if you just look at it it like siloed if you just look at it it like siloed if you just look at it it like siloed it's really good but do you think that it's really good but do you think that it's really good but do you think that it's been harder for us because of like it's been harder for us because of like it's been harder for us because of like the maturity of the channel and the type the maturity of the channel and the type the maturity of the channel and the type of content we've been posting for N9 of content we've been posting for N9 of content we've been posting for N9 years that like to try to try something years that like to try to try something years that like to try to try something new to try to tell a lifestyle type new to try to tell a lifestyle type new to try to tell a lifestyle type story has been a little bit more story has been a little bit more story has been a little bit more challenging because we weren't doing challenging because we weren't doing challenging because we weren't doing something like that from the beginning something like that from the beginning something like that from the beginning interesting a a lot of people on YouTube interesting a a lot of people on YouTube interesting a a lot of people on YouTube would say that like pivoting your would say that like pivoting your would say that like pivoting your channel is really challenging but at channel is really challenging but at channel is really challenging but at this point my sense is like well what is this point my sense is like well what is this point my sense is like well what is there to lose it's not like cuz here's there to lose it's not like cuz here's there to lose it's not like cuz here's the thing with YouTube YouTube is a

the thing with YouTube YouTube is a the thing with YouTube YouTube is a search engine right and so what we've search engine right and so what we've search engine right and so what we've always done on YouTube is you publish always done on YouTube is you publish always done on YouTube is you publish you know um 30 to 50 videos a year and you know um 30 to 50 videos a year and you know um 30 to 50 videos a year and your existing audience will watch them your existing audience will watch them your existing audience will watch them and you know a small percentage maybe 3 and you know a small percentage maybe 3 and you know a small percentage maybe 3 to 5% are going to go viral for you and to 5% are going to go viral for you and to 5% are going to go viral for you and those are the ones that help grow the those are the ones that help grow the those are the ones that help grow the channel and so every time I've evalu our channel and so every time I've evalu our channel and so every time I've evalu our YouTube approach and I thought to myself YouTube approach and I thought to myself YouTube approach and I thought to myself I want to make videos for me because I want to make videos for me because I want to make videos for me because that's the thing about these videos it's that's the thing about these videos it's that's the thing about these videos it's like I want to document like this our like I want to document like this our like I want to document like this our favorite videos to to watch back yeah favorite videos to to watch back yeah favorite videos to to watch back yeah like our our our our our company is like our our our our our company is like our our our our our company is going to be 10 years old in two days going to be 10 years old in two days going to be 10 years old in two days from the time of this recording like from the time of this recording like from the time of this recording like we've been at this for 10 years like I we've been at this for 10 years like I we've been at this for 10 years like I want to look back in 10 more years and want to look back in 10 more years and want to look back in 10 more years and be able to like track all the stuff that be able to like track all the stuff that be able to like track all the stuff that we've gone through um but it was never we've gone through um but it was never we've gone through um but it was never worth sacrificing that because like for worth sacrificing that because like for worth sacrificing that because like for the sake of the company we have to like the sake of the company we have to like the sake of the company we have to like put that first you know kill your put that first you know kill your put that first you know kill your darling sort of thing but at this point darling sort of thing but at this point darling sort of thing but at this point you know the videos and I said that and you know the videos and I said that and you know the videos and I said that and then I went back and I was like oh you then I went back and I was like oh you then I went back and I was like oh you know some of these videos did do pretty know some of these videos did do pretty know some of these videos did do pretty good but like at this point the videos good but like at this point the videos good but like at this point the videos don't seem to be hitting in the same way don't seem to be hitting in the same way don't seem to be hitting in the same way and so that almost like gives me like and so that almost like gives me like and so that almost like gives me like this small opening of like okay if this small opening of like okay if this small opening of like okay if that's the case could I at the very that's the case could I at the very that's the case could I at the very least keep the same level of traction we least keep the same level of traction we least keep the same level of traction we have now but provide a lot more depth have now but provide a lot more depth have now but provide a lot more depth because at this point if there's width because at this point if there's width because at this point if there's width and depth the two variables that you're and depth the two variables that you're and depth the two variables that you're evaluating the width that we're evaluating the width that we're evaluating the width that we're achieving with these talking head Style achieving with these talking head Style achieving with these talking head Style videos that are really teaching Centric videos that are really teaching Centric videos that are really teaching Centric and and I have put in so much energy to and and I have put in so much energy to and and I have put in so much energy to make them better lately and to make them make them better lately and to make them make them better lately and to make them more dense and to make them more more dense and to make them more more dense and to make them more valuable and to up the editing and then

valuable and to up the editing and then valuable and to up the editing and then give that enough time to prove itself we give that enough time to prove itself we give that enough time to prove itself we talked about you can't do that for two talked about you can't do that for two talked about you can't do that for two months and then be like well it's not months and then be like well it's not months and then be like well it's not give it almost a full year and then give it almost a full year and then give it almost a full year and then still be like okay it's still not still be like okay it's still not still be like okay it's still not hitting quite how I want to so if that's hitting quite how I want to so if that's hitting quite how I want to so if that's the case could we the case could we the case could we pivot deliver on the same promise of pivot deliver on the same promise of pivot deliver on the same promise of content but then have this depth element content but then have this depth element content but then have this depth element where if you are a follower like I want where if you are a follower like I want where if you are a follower like I want to watch every single week because I to watch every single week because I to watch every single week because I want to see what they're up to like this want to see what they're up to like this want to see what they're up to like this this ambitious project they're trying to this ambitious project they're trying to this ambitious project they're trying to achieve like what are the challenges achieve like what are the challenges achieve like what are the challenges that they're confronting how are they that they're confronting how are they that they're confronting how are they making small steps towards that and who making small steps towards that and who making small steps towards that and who are they becoming in the process and oh are they becoming in the process and oh are they becoming in the process and oh oh you're also going to talk about the oh you're also going to talk about the oh you're also going to talk about the best Church websites of like 2024 like best Church websites of like 2024 like best Church websites of like 2024 like oh I'm going to click for that and then oh I'm going to click for that and then oh I'm going to click for that and then I'm going to stay for the journey so is I'm going to stay for the journey so is I'm going to stay for the journey so is that something that we can marry can we that something that we can marry can we that something that we can marry can we can we bind those two things together can we bind those two things together can we bind those two things together well that's going to be the Big well that's going to be the Big well that's going to be the Big Challenge and and as we get closer to Challenge and and as we get closer to Challenge and and as we get closer to launching this project which I did not launching this project which I did not launching this project which I did not anticipate soft announcing here because anticipate soft announcing here because anticipate soft announcing here because again it's not again it's not again it's not definite I really hope that everyone you definite I really hope that everyone you definite I really hope that everyone you know comes along for the ride yeah we're know comes along for the ride yeah we're know comes along for the ride yeah we're we're about to tell we're going to try we're about to tell we're going to try we're about to tell we're going to try our best to tell a really good story in our best to tell a really good story in our best to tell a really good story in real time like it's that that story real time like it's that that story real time like it's that that story whether whether the videos do well on whether whether the videos do well on whether whether the videos do well on YouTube or not like the story that we're YouTube or not like the story that we're YouTube or not like the story that we're telling is the story that's happening in telling is the story that's happening in telling is the story that's happening in this office like when you and I walk out this office like when you and I walk out this office like when you and I walk out this door we're walking into that real this door we're walking into that real this door we're walking into that real life story and it's a good one it's life story and it's a good one it's life story and it's a good one it's ambitious for us it's we're all bought ambitious for us it's we're all bought ambitious for us it's we're all bought in it's something we're all working on in it's something we're all working on in it's something we're all working on together uh so I think it'll be worth together uh so I think it'll be worth together uh so I think it'll be worth the watch the title of the first video the watch the title of the first video the watch the title of the first video is right now is right now is 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we should we should we should stop the we should we should we should stop the podcast right here right now but instead podcast right here right now but instead podcast right here right now but instead R randomizer we have 30 more questions R randomizer we have 30 more questions R randomizer we have 30 more questions to get to if you were to frame your to get to if you were to frame your to get to if you were to frame your ministry uh using a bit of scripture ministry uh using a bit of scripture ministry uh using a bit of scripture what would it be so I would start with what would it be so I would start with what would it be so I would start with the Great Commission and this is how I the Great Commission and this is how I the Great Commission and this is how I talk to church leaders when they say to talk to church leaders when they say to talk to church leaders when they say to me how how do I prove that social has me how how do I prove that social has me how how do I prove that social has value how do I prove that the online value how do I prove that the online value how do I prove that the online World digital has value for a church World digital has value for a church World digital has value for a church well the Great Commission you know go well the Great Commission you know go well the Great Commission you know go and make disciples go into all the world and make disciples go into all the world and make disciples go into all the world and what social and digital provides us and what social and digital provides us and what social and digital provides us of course is access to said World in of course is access to said World in of course is access to said World in ways that were previously unimaginable ways that were previously unimaginable ways that were previously unimaginable in the same way that our favorite in the same way that our favorite in the same way that our favorite character from the Bible on this episode character from the Bible on this episode character from the Bible on this episode Paul would write Epistles to the Paul would write Epistles to the Paul would write Epistles to the churches from far away to basically you churches from far away to basically you churches from far away to basically you know guide them on how to run their know guide them on how to run their know guide them on how to run their local bodies uh we have the ability to local bodies uh we have the ability to local bodies uh we have the ability to reach groups of people in ways that reach groups of people in ways that reach groups of people in ways that those same Apostles and disciples would those same Apostles and disciples would those same Apostles and disciples would have been like well what do you mean have been like well what do you mean have been like well what do you mean 100,000 people saw your sermon clip on 100,000 people saw your sermon clip on 100,000 people saw your sermon clip on social media and so it's really as social media and so it's really as social media and so it's really as simple as why do we all meet in a a simple as why do we all meet in a a simple as why do we all meet in a a building to hear the word preached why building to hear the word preached why building to hear the word preached why did tent meetings exist where people did tent meetings exist where people did tent meetings exist where people would travel and we'd all gather outside would travel and we'd all gather outside would travel and we'd all gather outside in these like you know giant Fields in these like you know giant Fields in these like you know giant Fields because a building couldn't contain all because a building couldn't contain all because a building couldn't contain all the Christians to then hear the word the Christians to then hear the word the Christians to then hear the word preached because if everyone's in that preached because if everyone's in that preached because if everyone's in that one spot they all can hear the same one spot they all can hear the same one spot they all can hear the same message well what digital affords us is message well what digital affords us is message well what digital affords us is the ability to do that same thing and the ability to do that same thing and the ability to do that same thing and not erect a tent and so it's really as not erect a tent and so it's really as not erect a tent and so it's really as simple as that take the good news share simple as that take the good news share simple as that take the good news share it to all the world now in terms of

it to all the world now in terms of it to all the world now in terms of method the intersection of faith and method the intersection of faith and method the intersection of faith and culture what I usually lean into there culture what I usually lean into there culture what I usually lean into there is the method and message of Jesus's is the method and message of Jesus's is the method and message of Jesus's teachings which is Parable so more than teachings which is Parable so more than teachings which is Parable so more than a third of Jesus's teachings are a third of Jesus's teachings are a third of Jesus's teachings are Parables he's like the kingdom of God Parables he's like the kingdom of God Parables he's like the kingdom of God it's a big idea a lot of people aren't it's a big idea a lot of people aren't it's a big idea a lot of people aren't going to get it they're going to be going to get it they're going to be going to get it they're going to be resistant to it and so let's talk about resistant to it and so let's talk about resistant to it and so let's talk about coins and sheeps and wines and we'll use coins and sheeps and wines and we'll use coins and sheeps and wines and we'll use that as springboards to help talk about that as springboards to help talk about that as springboards to help talk about this bigger stranger more difficult to this bigger stranger more difficult to this bigger stranger more difficult to understand idea of the kingdom of God understand idea of the kingdom of God understand idea of the kingdom of God and so the reason that we with churches and so the reason that we with churches and so the reason that we with churches recommend okay take the wisdom of recommend okay take the wisdom of recommend okay take the wisdom of scripture but let's Elevate the parts of scripture but let's Elevate the parts of scripture but let's Elevate the parts of it that are accessible to all people the it that are accessible to all people the it that are accessible to all people the parts that are going to meet people parts that are going to meet people parts that are going to meet people where they are right now in their lived where they are right now in their lived where they are right now in their lived experience to then lead them to where experience to then lead them to where experience to then lead them to where they want to be the wisdom of scripture they want to be the wisdom of scripture they want to be the wisdom of scripture for all people for all time purpose for all people for all time purpose for all people for all time purpose finances hope parenting relationships finances hope parenting relationships finances hope parenting relationships it's all there and it's people they they it's all there and it's people they they it's all there and it's people they they want that wisdom so let's bring it to want that wisdom so let's bring it to want that wisdom so let's bring it to them so that's where methodologically I them so that's where methodologically I them so that's where methodologically I would root that in scripture that's would root that in scripture that's would root that in scripture that's great all right uh this question is great all right uh this question is great all right uh this question is related thanks to the randomizer related thanks to the randomizer related thanks to the randomizer randomizer randomizer randomizer knows what are the top four top five knows what are the top four top five knows what are the top four top five voices you lean into and Trust in life voices you lean into and Trust in life voices you lean into and Trust in life and in Ministry okay so number one's and in Ministry okay so number one's and in Ministry okay so number one's going to be my wife m going to be my wife m going to be my wife m I would say number when she says we're I would say number when she says we're I would say number when she says we're having a blizzard in the shower we're having a blizzard in the shower we're having a blizzard in the shower we're having a blizzard in the shower it's having a blizzard in the shower it's having a blizzard in the shower it's just like I gotta I gotta trust hook or just like I gotta I gotta trust hook or just like I gotta I gotta trust hook or by crook I'm listening uh number two is by crook I'm listening uh number two is by crook I'm listening uh number two is got to be my mom so she's she's passed got to be my mom so she's she's passed got to be my mom so she's she's passed she's with Jesus now but have enough

she's with Jesus now but have enough she's with Jesus now but have enough wisdom from her from you know the 25 wisdom from her from you know the 25 wisdom from her from you know the 25 years that we had together 26 um that years that we had together 26 um that years that we had together 26 um that that's like internalized and is deep and that's like internalized and is deep and that's like internalized and is deep and when I'm like in a difficult situation when I'm like in a difficult situation when I'm like in a difficult situation I'll often like you know go into the I'll often like you know go into the I'll often like you know go into the index of like what might mom say or what index of like what might mom say or what index of like what might mom say or what did she say about this and then lean did she say about this and then lean did she say about this and then lean into that into that into that um I remember I I pre-answer this um I remember I I pre-answer this um I remember I I pre-answer this question and I only had I only had question and I only had I only had question and I only had I only had four oh right cuz like I was going to four oh right cuz like I was going to four oh right cuz like I was going to just mention like the word but I don't just mention like the word but I don't just mention like the word but I don't think that counts here like yes the the think that counts here like yes the the think that counts here like yes the the holy scriptures um and I don't expect holy scriptures um and I don't expect holy scriptures um and I don't expect this in return but my final one was you this in return but my final one was you this in return but my final one was you oh that's kind and the reason is because oh that's kind and the reason is because oh that's kind and the reason is because for everyone listening and we're not for everyone listening and we're not for everyone listening and we're not going to try I'm not going to try to going to try I'm not going to try to going to try I'm not going to try to like you know just gas him up too much like you know just gas him up too much like you know just gas him up too much but the thing is about Alex is he's like but the thing is about Alex is he's like but the thing is about Alex is he's like the only the only the only person like one of the only people that person like one of the only people that person like one of the only people that I've ever met like this man will stand I've ever met like this man will stand I've ever met like this man will stand by his principles and his values no by his principles and his values no by his principles and his values no matter what no matter what to a fault I matter what no matter what to a fault I matter what no matter what to a fault I promise you to a fault and so when he promise you to a fault and so when he promise you to a fault and so when he says something he has conviction about says something he has conviction about says something he has conviction about it you listen to the guy if I'm the it you listen to the guy if I'm the it you listen to the guy if I'm the lawyer that can just sweet talk into lawyer that can just sweet talk into lawyer that can just sweet talk into anything he has zero sweet in his talk anything he has zero sweet in his talk anything he has zero sweet in his talk it's just talk and so when he says it's just talk and so when he says it's just talk and so when he says something and he's like listen I want to something and he's like listen I want to something and he's like listen I want to tell you what I feel about this tell you what I feel about this tell you what I feel about this well I don't know if I'll agree but like well I don't know if I'll agree but like well I don't know if I'll agree but like and we have vehemently disagreed on like and we have vehemently disagreed on like and we have vehemently disagreed on like some important things in the history of some important things in the history of some important things in the history of our relationship and it's like at the our relationship and it's like at the our relationship and it's like at the end of the day man I I respect it and so end of the day man I I respect it and so end of the day man I I respect it and so when he says things I listen and so you when he says things I listen and so you when he says things I listen and so you know you're also in that thanks man um

know you're also in that thanks man um know you're also in that thanks man um you want to get my top five to you yes you want to get my top five to you yes you want to get my top five to you yes but but I don't want you to include me but but I don't want you to include me but but I don't want you to include me okay okay okay um so you put Britney first and your mom um so you put Britney first and your mom um so you put Britney first and your mom second when I thought about this I put second when I thought about this I put second when I thought about this I put my dad first my dad first my dad first and my wife that's in no particular and my wife that's in no particular and my wife that's in no particular order it's just like they're both at the order it's just like they're both at the order it's just like they're both at the top my Dad we just have such history you top my Dad we just have such history you top my Dad we just have such history you know I was actually talking to Ry today know I was actually talking to Ry today know I was actually talking to Ry today your wife's brother and he says he sees your wife's brother and he says he sees your wife's brother and he says he sees his parents about six times a year his parents about six times a year his parents about six times a year because they just they live quite a bit because they just they live quite a bit because they just they live quite a bit ways and like sometimes I see my dad six ways and like sometimes I see my dad six ways and like sometimes I see my dad six times a week yeah and we didn't talk times a week yeah and we didn't talk times a week yeah and we didn't talk about that um it was he just said that about that um it was he just said that about that um it was he just said that common in passing but I reflected on it common in passing but I reflected on it common in passing but I reflected on it a bit and I was like oh I have a a bit and I was like oh I have a a bit and I was like oh I have a really special relationship with both my really special relationship with both my really special relationship with both my parents spe specifically my dad um we parents spe specifically my dad um we parents spe specifically my dad um we work together we Pastor together he is work together we Pastor together he is work together we Pastor together he is my pastor he's my mentor um and my pastor he's my mentor um and my pastor he's my mentor um and so I I listen to my dad but something my so I I listen to my dad but something my so I I listen to my dad but something my dad does better than just about anyone I dad does better than just about anyone I dad does better than just about anyone I know is that he teaches me so much of know is that he teaches me so much of know is that he teaches me so much of what I need to know about how to be a what I need to know about how to be a what I need to know about how to be a person a disciple uh a husband a father person a disciple uh a husband a father person a disciple uh a husband a father a friend a pastor but not by not by a friend a pastor but not by not by a friend a pastor but not by not by speaking by living and so the question speaking by living and so the question speaking by living and so the question says you know like what are the top five says you know like what are the top five says you know like what are the top five voices and like the voice of my father voices and like the voice of my father voices and like the voice of my father is so much less about what he says and is so much less about what he says and is so much less about what he says and mostly about what he does so um and the mostly about what he does so um and the mostly about what he does so um and the same was for my mom which is why they're same was for my mom which is why they're same was for my mom which is why they're both so impactful in our lives yeah um both so impactful in our lives yeah um both so impactful in our lives yeah um and so I put Rebecca there as well my and so I put Rebecca there as well my and so I put Rebecca there as well my wife just because she's the person that wife just because she's the person that wife just because she's the person that knows me better than anyone like better knows me better than anyone like better knows me better than anyone like better than my parents and so when she says than my parents and so when she says than my parents and so when she says something to me um I have to listen

something to me um I have to listen something to me um I have to listen because she just knows me more because she just knows me more because she just knows me more intimately than anyone else um the next intimately than anyone else um the next intimately than anyone else um the next group of people I thought of were my group of people I thought of were my group of people I thought of were my closest friends and so sorry and so you closest friends and so sorry and so you closest friends and so sorry and so you happen to be in that group really yes happen to be in that group really yes happen to be in that group really yes and so like just my closest friends and so like just my closest friends and so like just my closest friends again that that next level of people who again that that next level of people who again that that next level of people who know me um relationally better than most know me um relationally better than most know me um relationally better than most people and so when they say something um people and so when they say something um people and so when they say something um I I actually have to owe it to them to I I actually have to owe it to them to I I actually have to owe it to them to listen to them because of how well they listen to them because of how well they listen to them because of how well they know me because I can trust that they know me because I can trust that they know me because I can trust that they can see something that I can't see um can see something that I can't see um can see something that I can't see um and and our we have relational Equity and and our we have relational Equity and and our we have relational Equity that gives that builds trust there um that gives that builds trust there um that gives that builds trust there um and then there are voices that I that and then there are voices that I that and then there are voices that I that are shaping my life and Ministry beyond are shaping my life and Ministry beyond are shaping my life and Ministry beyond that that are are like less relational that that are are like less relational that that are are like less relational but like Eugene Peterson would be one I but like Eugene Peterson would be one I but like Eugene Peterson would be one I mean it's it's a miracle he wasn't mean it's it's a miracle he wasn't mean it's it's a miracle he wasn't number one right like we all had money number one right like we all had money number one right like we all had money on Eugene as like you know a top two on Eugene as like you know a top two on Eugene as like you know a top two finisher and for him to come here in finisher and for him to come here in finisher and for him to come here in like the bottom four like that's I mean like the bottom four like that's I mean like the bottom four like that's I mean who would and so so like Eugene is there who would and so so like Eugene is there who would and so so like Eugene is there somebody like Brian Zan is probably somebody like Brian Zan is probably somebody like Brian Zan is probably there just like um folks is and and there just like um folks is and and there just like um folks is and and usually pastors who like who have run usually pastors who like who have run usually pastors who like who have run quite a bit of the race if not the full quite a bit of the race if not the full quite a bit of the race if not the full one so like Eugene has has has ran the one so like Eugene has has has ran the one so like Eugene has has has ran the entire race and his life his ministry entire race and his life his ministry entire race and his life his ministry his work just like speaks for itself and his work just like speaks for itself and his work just like speaks for itself and so it's voices like that that that folks so it's voices like that that that folks so it's voices like that that that folks who have gone a lot further than I have who have gone a lot further than I have who have gone a lot further than I have that I let shape my life and my my that I let shape my life and my my that I let shape my life and my my Ministry but I will say like I'm Ministry but I will say like I'm Ministry but I will say like I'm actually pretty cautious in what how actually pretty cautious in what how actually pretty cautious in what how many voices I let shape who I'm becoming

many voices I let shape who I'm becoming many voices I let shape who I'm becoming keep the circle close well that and it's keep the circle close well that and it's keep the circle close well that and it's like it's such a like it's such a like it's such a modern problem right a predicament it's modern problem right a predicament it's modern problem right a predicament it's not entirely a problem predicament we not entirely a problem predicament we not entirely a problem predicament we have which is like I could be listening have which is like I could be listening have which is like I could be listening to podcasts from really thoughtful to podcasts from really thoughtful to podcasts from really thoughtful people all day every day and I just people all day every day and I just people all day every day and I just don't think that's like a thoughtful way don't think that's like a thoughtful way don't think that's like a thoughtful way to be formed or discipled um and so I'm to be formed or discipled um and so I'm to be formed or discipled um and so I'm pretty Choice with like who I actually pretty Choice with like who I actually pretty Choice with like who I actually let have measurable influence in my life let have measurable influence in my life let have measurable influence in my life and certainly my Ministry um so yeah and certainly my Ministry um so yeah and certainly my Ministry um so yeah yeah I think we're we're the same in yeah I think we're we're the same in yeah I think we're we're the same in that way yeah and that's that's a that way yeah and that's that's a that way yeah and that's that's a challenge and and I'm not actually like challenge and and I'm not actually like challenge and and I'm not actually like really all that good at it um I find really all that good at it um I find really all that good at it um I find myself I'm so impressionable I guarantee myself I'm so impressionable I guarantee myself I'm so impressionable I guarantee you I'm more impressionable than you are you I'm more impressionable than you are you I'm more impressionable than you are but even just the volume of of but even just the volume of of but even just the volume of of stuff I listen to or like content I stuff I listen to or like content I stuff I listen to or like content I consume I'm constantly like checking consume I'm constantly like checking consume I'm constantly like checking myself like you've listened to too too myself like you've listened to too too myself like you've listened to too too many podcasts they were good right you many podcasts they were good right you many podcasts they were good right you actually can't have armor up against actually can't have armor up against actually can't have armor up against that many voices when the volume is that that many voices when the volume is that that many voices when the volume is that loud yeah so how many more questions we loud yeah so how many more questions we loud yeah so how many more questions we um I'm just I'm trying to go back and um I'm just I'm trying to go back and um I'm just I'm trying to go back and forth between so that was question eight forth between so that was question eight forth between so that was question eight uh Accord question eight in the order uh Accord question eight in the order uh Accord question eight in the order that we there are four more all right that we there are four more all right that we there are four more all right well we can do it keep it rolling number well we can do it keep it rolling number well we can do it keep it rolling number six uh I feel like I'm giving them six uh I feel like I'm giving them six uh I feel like I'm giving them giving him all for my churches social giving him all for my churches social giving him all for my churches social media and I'm seeing little growth media and I'm seeing little growth media and I'm seeing little growth what's your what's your what's your advice well consider the sample size M advice well consider the sample size M advice well consider the sample size M I've had this question a lot and more I've had this question a lot and more I've had this question a lot and more than half of the time when we evaluate than half of the time when we evaluate than half of the time when we evaluate their sample size I say their sample size I say their sample size I say hey your expectations hey your expectations hey your expectations are a bit too aggressive a bit too

are a bit too aggressive a bit too are a bit too aggressive a bit too ambitious you know we talk about the ambitious you know we talk about the ambitious you know we talk about the Social Ministry Mountain the way of Social Ministry Mountain the way of Social Ministry Mountain the way of contextualizing your efforts on social contextualizing your efforts on social contextualizing your efforts on social the Bas layer no weeks off okay that the Bas layer no weeks off okay that the Bas layer no weeks off okay that needs to be the sustainable Rhythm that needs to be the sustainable Rhythm that needs to be the sustainable Rhythm that is non-negotiable how many weeks of is non-negotiable how many weeks of is non-negotiable how many weeks of taking no weeks off is enough to be a taking no weeks off is enough to be a taking no weeks off is enough to be a reliable sample size well that's what reliable sample size well that's what reliable sample size well that's what I'll get to if the question is I'm I'll get to if the question is I'm I'll get to if the question is I'm working so hard and I'm not seeing working so hard and I'm not seeing working so hard and I'm not seeing measurable results you can hear it in measurable results you can hear it in measurable results you can hear it in the question like that no weeks off the question like that no weeks off the question like that no weeks off rhythm is being is in a vulnerable spot rhythm is being is in a vulnerable spot rhythm is being is in a vulnerable spot yeah whatever they're doing it doesn't yeah whatever they're doing it doesn't yeah whatever they're doing it doesn't feel like it's sustainable so that needs feel like it's sustainable so that needs feel like it's sustainable so that needs to be the first thing that you fix even to be the first thing that you fix even to be the first thing that you fix even if it means pulling back on the content if it means pulling back on the content if it means pulling back on the content like publishing twice per week a as a like publishing twice per week a as a like publishing twice per week a as a baseline like no less than that like baseline like no less than that like baseline like no less than that like that's all it needs for no week that's all it needs for no week that's all it needs for no week off once we have established that we're off once we have established that we're off once we have established that we're looking for viral for me looking for viral for me looking for viral for me posts that's any post that reaches 10x posts that's any post that reaches 10x posts that's any post that reaches 10x the audience of a typical post of yours the audience of a typical post of yours the audience of a typical post of yours the reality is 3 to five% of your posts the reality is 3 to five% of your posts the reality is 3 to five% of your posts are going to be viral for me so if you are going to be viral for me so if you are going to be viral for me so if you publish for 90 days twice per week publish for 90 days twice per week publish for 90 days twice per week that's 25 posts what's you know 5% of 25 that's 25 posts what's you know 5% of 25 that's 25 posts what's you know 5% of 25 idea yeah so like in 90 days you might idea yeah so like in 90 days you might idea yeah so like in 90 days you might have one viral for me post you might but have one viral for me post you might but have one viral for me post you might but that's a just small sample size 3 to 5% that's a just small sample size 3 to 5% that's a just small sample size 3 to 5% like you might do it for 6 months and like you might do it for 6 months and like you might do it for 6 months and then you have two in like the final then you have two in like the final then you have two in like the final month and like yeah it all in the month and like yeah it all in the month and like yeah it all in the aggregate it was 3 to 5% but it doesn't aggregate it was 3 to 5% but it doesn't aggregate it was 3 to 5% but it doesn't always work like cleanly every every 25 always work like cleanly every every 25 always work like cleanly every every 25 pulls you'll like you'll hit the lottery pulls you'll like you'll hit the lottery pulls you'll like you'll hit the lottery no like if it was that that was true no like if it was that that was true no like if it was that that was true then um once we're in that Rhythm we've

then um once we're in that Rhythm we've then um once we're in that Rhythm we've hit a viral from me post we want to hit a viral from me post we want to hit a viral from me post we want to stockpile more than one of those to stockpile more than one of those to stockpile more than one of those to achieve the 10x growth rate that's achieve the 10x growth rate that's achieve the 10x growth rate that's growth of 4% per month in New follow growth of 4% per month in New follow growth of 4% per month in New follow follow not a lot modest compounds pretty follow not a lot modest compounds pretty follow not a lot modest compounds pretty quickly that adds up to 10x growth over quickly that adds up to 10x growth over quickly that adds up to 10x growth over 5 years so if you got 200 followers 5 years so if you got 200 followers 5 years so if you got 200 followers today on Instagram that's 2,000 today on Instagram that's 2,000 today on Instagram that's 2,000 followers in 5 years that's a 12 to followers in 5 years that's a 12 to followers in 5 years that's a 12 to 24mon process so laying out these 24mon process so laying out these 24mon process so laying out these expectations of like what we aim to expectations of like what we aim to expectations of like what we aim to achieve with churches that we work with achieve with churches that we work with achieve with churches that we work with we're talking about 2 years before we're talking about 2 years before we're talking about 2 years before you're growing at 4% per month which is you're growing at 4% per month which is you're growing at 4% per month which is like that's the objective that's like we like that's the objective that's like we like that's the objective that's like we did it did it did it and that means like that no weeks off and that means like that no weeks off and that means like that no weeks off thing that's why it's such thing that's why it's such thing that's why it's such non-negotiable because once you abandon non-negotiable because once you abandon non-negotiable because once you abandon that no weeks off Rhythm suddenly you that no weeks off Rhythm suddenly you that no weeks off Rhythm suddenly you you you go back to the bottom of the you you go back to the bottom of the you you go back to the bottom of the Social Ministry mountain and your Social Ministry mountain and your Social Ministry mountain and your momentum stops like if you miss a week momentum stops like if you miss a week momentum stops like if you miss a week sure like you miss two like your sure like you miss two like your sure like you miss two like your momentum is going to start to like be momentum is going to start to like be momentum is going to start to like be hurt by that you miss a month like okay hurt by that you miss a month like okay hurt by that you miss a month like okay we're in we're in a serious spot here of we're in we're in a serious spot here of we're in we're in a serious spot here of like starting from scratch all over like starting from scratch all over like starting from scratch all over again so without knowing more specifics again so without knowing more specifics again so without knowing more specifics reframe expectations reframe time reframe expectations reframe time reframe expectations reframe time Horizon this is what I say to every Horizon this is what I say to every Horizon this is what I say to every Pastor when we get on a call like if Pastor when we get on a call like if Pastor when we get on a call like if we're going to work together like just we're going to work together like just we're going to work together like just you know this is like what to expect and you know this is like what to expect and you know this is like what to expect and the reality is if we blew through these the reality is if we blew through these the reality is if we blew through these expectations I'm not confident it would expectations I'm not confident it would expectations I'm not confident it would be preferable for your ministry because be preferable for your ministry because be preferable for your ministry because like if suddenly you gained 5,000 like if suddenly you gained 5,000 like if suddenly you gained 5,000 followers overnight and you had 500 to followers overnight and you had 500 to followers overnight and you had 500 to begin with like are you able to take begin with like are you able to take begin with like are you able to take advantage of that are you aware do you

advantage of that are you aware do you advantage of that are you aware do you have any type of capacity and system have any type of capacity and system have any type of capacity and system like probably not and so I always say like probably not and so I always say like probably not and so I always say that's what I'm so glad has been with that's what I'm so glad has been with that's what I'm so glad has been with Pro Church tools 10 years in slow and Pro Church tools 10 years in slow and Pro Church tools 10 years in slow and steady growth I talk about the three c's steady growth I talk about the three c's steady growth I talk about the three c's for me as a leader competency capacity for me as a leader competency capacity for me as a leader competency capacity and character those three need to scale and character those three need to scale and character those three need to scale proportionately with what I'm proportionately with what I'm proportionately with what I'm responsible for right and if any of responsible for right and if any of responsible for right and if any of those get out of step with the other we those get out of step with the other we those get out of step with the other we grow too fast I won't be able to hand it grow too fast I won't be able to hand it grow too fast I won't be able to hand it capacity I won't be able to handle it capacity I won't be able to handle it capacity I won't be able to handle it character I won't be able to handle it character I won't be able to handle it character I won't be able to handle it competency suddenly you were given too competency suddenly you were given too competency suddenly you were given too much too fast you squandered much too fast you squandered much too fast you squandered it you're not going to get a back it you're not going to get a back it you're not going to get a back right that was really rich oh thanks right that was really rich oh thanks right that was really rich oh thanks yeah speaking of really rich you posted yeah speaking of really rich you posted yeah speaking of really rich you posted on your Instagram stories lately you're on your Instagram stories lately you're on your Instagram stories lately you're Ruben sandwich what else have you been Ruben sandwich what else have you been Ruben sandwich what else have you been cooking up in the kitchen lately I'm cooking up in the kitchen lately I'm cooking up in the kitchen lately I'm glad we kept doing questions got a good glad we kept doing questions got a good glad we kept doing questions got a good good answer the previous one okay so good answer the previous one okay so good answer the previous one okay so yeah yeah so we did the Reuben so we got yeah yeah so we did the Reuben so we got yeah yeah so we did the Reuben so we got the brisket ordered that from The the brisket ordered that from The the brisket ordered that from The Butcher Shop which is a Canadian Toronto Butcher Shop which is a Canadian Toronto Butcher Shop which is a Canadian Toronto based place and they just oh dang the based place and they just oh dang the based place and they just oh dang the butcher shop they come through so I know butcher shop they come through so I know butcher shop they come through so I know of The Butcher Shop yeah I haven't um I of The Butcher Shop yeah I haven't um I of The Butcher Shop yeah I haven't um I haven't bought anything from the butcher haven't bought anything from the butcher haven't bought anything from the butcher shop but there's a guy follow on shop but there's a guy follow on shop but there's a guy follow on Instagram who's like he's in Toronto and Instagram who's like he's in Toronto and Instagram who's like he's in Toronto and he is often doing Partnerships with the he is often doing Partnerships with the he is often doing Partnerships with the butcher shop very legitimate situation butcher shop very legitimate situation butcher shop very legitimate situation there yeah they roll up in a giant truck there yeah they roll up in a giant truck there yeah they roll up in a giant truck and it's all fresh and they're like you and it's all fresh and they're like you and it's all fresh and they're like you better sign for this because like it's better sign for this because like it's better sign for this because like it's going to spoil if you don't take it for going to spoil if you don't take it for going to spoil if you don't take it for me so I ordered a couple briskets and

me so I ordered a couple briskets and me so I ordered a couple briskets and you know carved them up and you know you know carved them up and you know you know carved them up and you know this was after I was let down by our this was after I was let down by our this was after I was let down by our local friends at Nini a couple of times local friends at Nini a couple of times local friends at Nini a couple of times and I went in and got short ribs and and I went in and got short ribs and and I went in and got short ribs and they just gave me a giant rib and then I they just gave me a giant rib and then I they just gave me a giant rib and then I got home and I was like I don't own a b got home and I was like I don't own a b got home and I was like I don't own a b bone saw and so then I was like Hey bone saw and so then I was like Hey bone saw and so then I was like Hey learned my lesson went in hi I'd like learned my lesson went in hi I'd like learned my lesson went in hi I'd like some boneless short ribs they like we some boneless short ribs they like we some boneless short ribs they like we don't have any I was like all right don't have any I was like all right don't have any I was like all right enough I tried twice I tried to support enough I tried twice I tried to support enough I tried twice I tried to support local I'm going to support a little bit local I'm going to support a little bit local I'm going to support a little bit farther local uh so they roll up with farther local uh so they roll up with farther local uh so they roll up with the briskets I cure them in the brine the briskets I cure them in the brine the briskets I cure them in the brine for 10 days and then take it out and for 10 days and then take it out and for 10 days and then take it out and it's corn beef at this point I just like it's corn beef at this point I just like it's corn beef at this point I just like boiled it basically in an instant pot boiled it basically in an instant pot boiled it basically in an instant pot for like five hours then brought out the for like five hours then brought out the for like five hours then brought out the meat slicer which I purchased for this meat slicer which I purchased for this meat slicer which I purchased for this start slicing it up shave it up then I start slicing it up shave it up then I start slicing it up shave it up then I made a marble made a marble made a marble rye for the bread made a Russian rye for the bread made a Russian rye for the bread made a Russian dressing from scratch dressing from scratch dressing from scratch emulsified that oil with the immersion emulsified that oil with the immersion emulsified that oil with the immersion blender outstanding got uh a nice uh blender outstanding got uh a nice uh blender outstanding got uh a nice uh swits G yeah and uh some Sauer CRA to go swits G yeah and uh some Sauer CRA to go swits G yeah and uh some Sauer CRA to go it was great so that was awesome um I've it was great so that was awesome um I've it was great so that was awesome um I've got the sourdough starter going it's got the sourdough starter going it's got the sourdough starter going it's been like 2 been like 2 been like 2 weeks and it's looking good but weeks and it's looking good but weeks and it's looking good but today I have the delivery of it's like a today I have the delivery of it's like a today I have the delivery of it's like a Sourdough home it's like a little fridge Sourdough home it's like a little fridge Sourdough home it's like a little fridge for the sourdough starter yeah yeah for the sourdough starter yeah yeah for the sourdough starter yeah yeah because like we live in a climate that because like we live in a climate that because like we live in a climate that has very different seasons and so like has very different seasons and so like has very different seasons and so like even at home I run the AC a lot more at

even at home I run the AC a lot more at even at home I run the AC a lot more at night I don't bake sourdough at home in night I don't bake sourdough at home in night I don't bake sourdough at home in the winter because the ferment is like the winter because the ferment is like the winter because the ferment is like it's just I can't depend on it I only B it's just I can't depend on it I only B it's just I can't depend on it I only B souro in the summer because it's warm souro in the summer because it's warm souro in the summer because it's warm enough it's warm enough right so I've enough it's warm enough right so I've enough it's warm enough right so I've noticed that you got a little proofing noticed that you got a little proofing noticed that you got a little proofing box well I have a fermentation station box well I have a fermentation station box well I have a fermentation station right but this is like even smaller cool right but this is like even smaller cool right but this is like even smaller cool just for the starter so that it can be just for the starter so that it can be just for the starter so that it can be at the exact right temperature because at the exact right temperature because at the exact right temperature because it gets too cool when I at night cuz I I it gets too cool when I at night cuz I I it gets too cool when I at night cuz I I I run the AC because it's so hot where I run the AC because it's so hot where I run the AC because it's so hot where we sleep but then where the starter is we sleep but then where the starter is we sleep but then where the starter is he's he's chilly y so we got that going he's he's chilly y so we got that going he's he's chilly y so we got that going I made potato buns from scratch to make I made potato buns from scratch to make I made potato buns from scratch to make burgers and those buns were really burgers and those buns were really burgers and those buns were really really good and then I have a really good and then I have a really good and then I have a neighborhood dinner on Saturday and my neighborhood dinner on Saturday and my neighborhood dinner on Saturday and my neighbor saw that I had this hamburger neighbor saw that I had this hamburger neighbor saw that I had this hamburger and she's like can you make 24 for the and she's like can you make 24 for the and she's like can you make 24 for the party so I had to make 24 they're ready party so I had to make 24 they're ready party so I had to make 24 they're ready to go they're frozen but that's I'm to go they're frozen but that's I'm to go they're frozen but that's I'm speaking and then I have to drive home speaking and then I have to drive home speaking and then I have to drive home and then bring the buns over so that's and then bring the buns over so that's and then bring the buns over so that's great am can you send me the recipe for great am can you send me the recipe for great am can you send me the recipe for the potato buns oh yeah never made the potato buns oh yeah never made the potato buns oh yeah never made potato buns yeah they were they were potato buns yeah they were they were potato buns yeah they were they were tricky it it was the first one that like tricky it it was the first one that like tricky it it was the first one that like it took me a couple of times so the chef it took me a couple of times so the chef it took me a couple of times so the chef shouts to Brian lagerstrom on YouTube shouts to Brian lagerstrom on YouTube shouts to Brian lagerstrom on YouTube who's quite popular um he says that this who's quite popular um he says that this who's quite popular um he says that this was this recipe that he worked on for was this recipe that he worked on for was this recipe that he worked on for like 10 years and he was a professional like 10 years and he was a professional like 10 years and he was a professional Baker for a long time and he's like the Baker for a long time and he's like the Baker for a long time and he's like the secret was turning to the dark side he's secret was turning to the dark side he's secret was turning to the dark side he's like using dough conditioner and dough like using dough conditioner and dough like using dough conditioner and dough conditioner he's like it's like steroids conditioner he's like it's like steroids conditioner he's like it's like steroids for your dough never heard of it he's for your dough never heard of it he's for your dough never heard of it he's like I used to think you only used this like I used to think you only used this like I used to think you only used this like in big industrial kitchens where like in big industrial kitchens where like in big industrial kitchens where you like couldn't cut it he's like the you like couldn't cut it he's like the you like couldn't cut it he's like the thing is for these buns to have that

thing is for these buns to have that thing is for these buns to have that like springiness where you can like like springiness where you can like like springiness where you can like squeeze it and it goes like a sponge squeeze it and it goes like a sponge squeeze it and it goes like a sponge that pops he's like the dough that pops he's like the dough that pops he's like the dough conditioner is the secret so what I've conditioner is the secret so what I've conditioner is the secret so what I've noticed though is so I have to run it noticed though is so I have to run it noticed though is so I have to run it for 10 minutes in the Kitchen Aid mixer for 10 minutes in the Kitchen Aid mixer for 10 minutes in the Kitchen Aid mixer because it's a really fortified dough because it's a really fortified dough because it's a really fortified dough it's got mashed potato that I rice and it's got mashed potato that I rice and it's got mashed potato that I rice and then it's got um it's got butter of then it's got um it's got butter of then it's got um it's got butter of course like it's got a bunch of these course like it's got a bunch of these course like it's got a bunch of these things that for the gluten to develop things that for the gluten to develop things that for the gluten to develop you have to like mix it for a bunch so you have to like mix it for a bunch so you have to like mix it for a bunch so the dough is finishing a little too hot the dough is finishing a little too hot the dough is finishing a little too hot like it's finishing at like like it's finishing at like like it's finishing at like 82° and I want it to finish at like 75 82° and I want it to finish at like 75 82° and I want it to finish at like 75 to 78 so it doesn't overproof right so to 78 so it doesn't overproof right so to 78 so it doesn't overproof right so then I I made a second batch and I then I I made a second batch and I then I I made a second batch and I lowered the temperature of the water to lowered the temperature of the water to lowered the temperature of the water to start with a bunch and it still came out start with a bunch and it still came out start with a bunch and it still came out at 82 so I was like how low does this at 82 so I was like how low does this at 82 so I was like how low does this water temperature need to be if the water temperature need to be if the water temperature need to be if the kitchen mixer is just going to like but kitchen mixer is just going to like but kitchen mixer is just going to like but he was using the same kitchen mixer he was using the same kitchen mixer he was using the same kitchen mixer right baking man starting enough yeah um right baking man starting enough yeah um right baking man starting enough yeah um if you I didn't know you were you had if you I didn't know you were you had if you I didn't know you were you had stepped your foot into the sourdough stepped your foot into the sourdough stepped your foot into the sourdough world yeah um if depending on how your world yeah um if depending on how your world yeah um if depending on how your starter goes if you need a mature starter goes if you need a mature starter goes if you need a mature starter I can share with you it's one of starter I can share with you it's one of starter I can share with you it's one of the best parts of baking right you can the best parts of baking right you can the best parts of baking right you can just chop off a bit I'm going to mention just chop off a bit I'm going to mention just chop off a bit I'm going to mention a foster child that we had if her name a foster child that we had if her name a foster child that we had if her name comes to your mind don't say it out loud comes to your mind don't say it out loud comes to your mind don't say it out loud that's very important um do you remember that's very important um do you remember that's very important um do you remember the little girl we had in in the peak of the little girl we had in in the peak of the little girl we had in in the peak of Co like right when it started we had her Co like right when it started we had her Co like right when it started we had her for quite a long time I do she she was for quite a long time I do she she was for quite a long time I do she she was just I mean all of our children are just I mean all of our children are just I mean all of our children are really fond to us she was especially really fond to us she was especially really fond to us she was especially fond to us and I made a starter during fond to us and I made a starter during fond to us and I made a starter during that time and I named it after her and that time and I named it after her and that time and I named it after her and so I still have it and that's when you

so I still have it and that's when you so I still have it and that's when you still have oh my God so yeah it's a still have oh my God so yeah it's a still have oh my God so yeah it's a little special so if I would be happy to little special so if I would be happy to little special so if I would be happy to share that one with you um and I will share that one with you um and I will share that one with you um and I will also share my faka recipe with you souro also share my faka recipe with you souro also share my faka recipe with you souro fota recipe um I haven't been fota recipe um I haven't been fota recipe um I haven't been um cooking a lot lately because it's the um cooking a lot lately because it's the um cooking a lot lately because it's the first fruits of our garden right now first fruits of our garden right now first fruits of our garden right now like the first vegetables are ready and like the first vegetables are ready and like the first vegetables are ready and the first ones that are coming for us the first ones that are coming for us the first ones that are coming for us are French breakfast radishes and so are French breakfast radishes and so are French breakfast radishes and so I've been eating those raw every day for I've been eating those raw every day for I've been eating those raw every day for lunch so you slice them like on a bias lunch so you slice them like on a bias lunch so you slice them like on a bias once like diagonally then you take your once like diagonally then you take your once like diagonally then you take your knife and you smash them so they're like knife and you smash them so they're like knife and you smash them so they're like super like irregular and like um crooked super like irregular and like um crooked super like irregular and like um crooked and and cra red like like smashed and and cra red like like smashed and and cra red like like smashed potatoes no like so you got a whole raw potatoes no like so you got a whole raw potatoes no like so you got a whole raw radish yeah slice it once diagonally radish yeah slice it once diagonally radish yeah slice it once diagonally then you take your knife put it over top then you take your knife put it over top then you take your knife put it over top of the radish and then smash it so the of the radish and then smash it so the of the radish and then smash it so the radish like breaks once okay that way it radish like breaks once okay that way it radish like breaks once okay that way it can like catch what I'm about to hit it can like catch what I'm about to hit it can like catch what I'm about to hit it with which is olive oil salt like flaky with which is olive oil salt like flaky with which is olive oil salt like flaky salt and pepper on a plate fresh basil salt and pepper on a plate fresh basil salt and pepper on a plate fresh basil from the garden fresh edible flowers from the garden fresh edible flowers from the garden fresh edible flowers from the garden um and if you're feeling from the garden um and if you're feeling from the garden um and if you're feeling if the radishes are especially spicy if the radishes are especially spicy if the radishes are especially spicy because it's been hot um a little bit of because it's been hot um a little bit of because it's been hot um a little bit of honey and I'm just eating at Lun um honey and I'm just eating at Lun um honey and I'm just eating at Lun um yesterday had two poach EGS over top of yesterday had two poach EGS over top of yesterday had two poach EGS over top of it and like so that's what I've been it and like so that's what I've been it and like so that's what I've been eating every day cuz radishes are here eating every day cuz radishes are here eating every day cuz radishes are here and need to be they need to be used and need to be they need to be used and need to be they need to be used exactly two questions left you ready for exactly two questions left you ready for exactly two questions left you ready for this first question uh do you encourage this first question uh do you encourage this first question uh do you encourage or discourage the hide like count or discourage the hide like count or discourage the hide like count feature if you encourage it when's the feature if you encourage it when's the feature if you encourage it when's the best time to use best time to use best time to use it yeah I think it can be a useful it yeah I think it can be a useful it yeah I think it can be a useful feature I don't know if I've ever used feature I don't know if I've ever used feature I don't know if I've ever used it I have not I think it can be really

it I have not I think it can be really it I have not I think it can be really useful when useful when useful when you feel like listen our numbers are not you feel like listen our numbers are not you feel like listen our numbers are not going to impress going to impress going to impress anybody right cuz like a lot of folks anybody right cuz like a lot of folks anybody right cuz like a lot of folks are landing on your social accounts when are landing on your social accounts when are landing on your social accounts when they're looking for new churches they they're looking for new churches they they're looking for new churches they find your Church's website oh this looks find your Church's website oh this looks find your Church's website oh this looks like a cool Church you they click on like a cool Church you they click on like a cool Church you they click on your Instagram account and all of your your Instagram account and all of your your Instagram account and all of your posts have like two to four likes but posts have like two to four likes but posts have like two to four likes but the content is like objectively good the content is like objectively good the content is like objectively good right or if you even if you follow right or if you even if you follow right or if you even if you follow church and you're like looking through church and you're like looking through church and you're like looking through your feed and most of what you see is your feed and most of what you see is your feed and most of what you see is like you know X amental likes xal likes like you know X amental likes xal likes like you know X amental likes xal likes and then there's like your church with a and then there's like your church with a and then there's like your church with a fraction amount of likes like the fraction amount of likes like the fraction amount of likes like the reality is that people are going to be reality is that people are going to be reality is that people are going to be like ah this content might not be as like ah this content might not be as like ah this content might not be as good right so let people turn it off let good right so let people turn it off let good right so let people turn it off let people judge the content for what it is people judge the content for what it is people judge the content for what it is it's like judging a book by its cover it's like judging a book by its cover it's like judging a book by its cover right a lot of us look at the like count right a lot of us look at the like count right a lot of us look at the like count to judge a piece of content like on Tik to judge a piece of content like on Tik to judge a piece of content like on Tik Tok I look at the like count to see if Tok I look at the like count to see if Tok I look at the like count to see if I'm going to finish watching this video I'm going to finish watching this video I'm going to finish watching this video or not um so remove that opportunity or not um so remove that opportunity or not um so remove that opportunity from people and let them judge the from people and let them judge the from people and let them judge the content for what it is of course the IR content for what it is of course the IR content for what it is of course the IR is that now when I see that I go ah he is that now when I see that I go ah he is that now when I see that I go ah he must not get get many likes until I saw must not get get many likes until I saw must not get get many likes until I saw a creator that I know like like offline a creator that I know like like offline a creator that I know like like offline and I saw that he was doing it and I was and I saw that he was doing it and I was and I saw that he was doing it and I was like he got like he's getting like 5,000 like he got like he's getting like 5,000 like he got like he's getting like 5,000 likes on a post why is he doing this and likes on a post why is he doing this and likes on a post why is he doing this and I was my interpretation I didn't ask him I was my interpretation I didn't ask him I was my interpretation I didn't ask him was he was doing that because he's like was he was doing that because he's like was he was doing that because he's like it's not about I don't want you to look it's not about I don't want you to look it's not about I don't want you to look at my numbers and be like this must be at my numbers and be like this must be at my numbers and be like this must be great he like was doing it for the same great he like was doing it for the same great he like was doing it for the same reason but as a way of like stunting any reason but as a way of like stunting any reason but as a way of like stunting any Pride people would have put in him which Pride people would have put in him which Pride people would have put in him which I thought was quite I thought was quite I thought was quite virtuous the randomizer also virtuous in

virtuous the randomizer also virtuous in virtuous the randomizer also virtuous in leading us from that and answer into our leading us from that and answer into our leading us from that and answer into our final question all right what do you do final question all right what do you do final question all right what do you do to make sure you're always serving God to make sure you're always serving God to make sure you're always serving God in a field that is so gratifying itself in a field that is so gratifying itself in a field that is so gratifying itself let me tell you I don't hide my legs I let me tell you I don't hide my legs I let me tell you I don't hide my legs I want you to know I want you to want you to know I want you to want you to know I want you to know wow I mean you know anchoring to know wow I mean you know anchoring to know wow I mean you know anchoring to values we've talked about it like it's values we've talked about it like it's values we've talked about it like it's been kind of a thread throughout a few been kind of a thread throughout a few been kind of a thread throughout a few of these questions like um about of these questions like um about of these questions like um about integrity and like uh our ego and hiding integrity and like uh our ego and hiding integrity and like uh our ego and hiding likes this is a and working in Social by likes this is a and working in Social by likes this is a and working in Social by by nature is like can be this ego trip by nature is like can be this ego trip by nature is like can be this ego trip where it's like you know we've brought where it's like you know we've brought where it's like you know we've brought up this silly post that I've had a few up this silly post that I've had a few up this silly post that I've had a few times on the show now it's got a million times on the show now it's got a million times on the show now it's got a million views the insights are nuts and it's views the insights are nuts and it's views the insights are nuts and it's like there is this temptation in the like there is this temptation in the like there is this temptation in the social realm and we're trying to teach social realm and we're trying to teach social realm and we're trying to teach churches how to use social to like have churches how to use social to like have churches how to use social to like have it feed our egos a little bit and we it feed our egos a little bit and we it feed our egos a little bit and we have already through this episode in have already through this episode in have already through this episode in some ways talked about some safeguards some ways talked about some safeguards some ways talked about some safeguards to like keep you from that because it's to like keep you from that because it's to like keep you from that because it's imperative that we keep ourselves from imperative that we keep ourselves from imperative that we keep ourselves from that here's the reality I am a a a that here's the reality I am a a a that here's the reality I am a a a little boy from rural little boy from rural little boy from rural Canada Canada Canada and I have a all these followers now but and I have a all these followers now but and I have a all these followers now but I I still live far away from everything I I still live far away from everything I I still live far away from everything in Canada yeah and I just I I I go in my in Canada yeah and I just I I I go in my in Canada yeah and I just I I I go in my lab in the morning in my office and I lab in the morning in my office and I lab in the morning in my office and I write things in my processor and then it write things in my processor and then it write things in my processor and then it gets designed up and I publish it and gets designed up and I publish it and gets designed up and I publish it and then I I look and I'm like oh 14,000 then I I look and I'm like oh 14,000 then I I look and I'm like oh 14,000 likes I can honestly say I don't get likes I can honestly say I don't get likes I can honestly say I don't get like gassed up on that and this is

like gassed up on that and this is like gassed up on that and this is probably because my mind is so probably because my mind is so probably because my mind is so analytical the way that I approach like analytical the way that I approach like analytical the way that I approach like content Creation in a lot of ways is content Creation in a lot of ways is content Creation in a lot of ways is just like a video game and I'm like just like a video game and I'm like just like a video game and I'm like interesting when I did this this worked interesting when I did this this worked interesting when I did this this worked when I pulled this lever this worked when I pulled this lever this worked when I pulled this lever this worked there's no there's no there's no like I don't ever like feel like I did like I don't ever like feel like I did like I don't ever like feel like I did it like I'm so proud of this like you it like I'm so proud of this like you it like I'm so proud of this like you know look at me I'm so great it's more know look at me I'm so great it's more know look at me I'm so great it's more like oh interesting like this level was like oh interesting like this level was like oh interesting like this level was solved now I get mad when I can't solve solved now I get mad when I can't solve solved now I get mad when I can't solve the YouTube level right now and that the YouTube level right now and that the YouTube level right now and that just makes me like want to solve it more just makes me like want to solve it more just makes me like want to solve it more but it's just like it always just feels but it's just like it always just feels but it's just like it always just feels like an equation to be solved it doesn't like an equation to be solved it doesn't like an equation to be solved it doesn't feel like a notch in my belt right is feel like a notch in my belt right is feel like a notch in my belt right is probably the best way to to describe it probably the best way to to describe it probably the best way to to describe it and so like I can honestly say like I and so like I can honestly say like I and so like I can honestly say like I don't really have like these high highs don't really have like these high highs don't really have like these high highs where like I'm so like high on myself where like I'm so like high on myself where like I'm so like high on myself like I'm all that and it's I I used to like I'm all that and it's I I used to like I'm all that and it's I I used to think when people said like oh it's just think when people said like oh it's just think when people said like oh it's just so humbling to hear that I was always so humbling to hear that I was always so humbling to hear that I was always like what does that mean so stupid and I like what does that mean so stupid and I like what does that mean so stupid and I still wouldn't use that language but still wouldn't use that language but still wouldn't use that language but when when I get on calls with people now when when I get on calls with people now when when I get on calls with people now they're like and people like just say they're like and people like just say they're like and people like just say like oh I've been following me forever like oh I've been following me forever like oh I've been following me forever like you know you you changed all this like you know you you changed all this like you know you you changed all this like man like you're like the OG like like man like you're like the OG like like man like you're like the OG like like you're my goat like people say like you're my goat like people say like you're my goat like people say these things and I'm like okay like I'm these things and I'm like okay like I'm these things and I'm like okay like I'm just helping you was social like it's just helping you was social like it's just helping you was social like it's just it's it's very strange um and it just it's it's very strange um and it just it's it's very strange um and it doesn't feel material because the doesn't feel material because the doesn't feel material because the reality is I have like five friends and reality is I have like five friends and reality is I have like five friends and we all just see each other all the time we all just see each other all the time we all just see each other all the time and have two kids and I like to get in and have two kids and I like to get in and have two kids and I like to get in my lab and tinker and play with my my lab and tinker and play with my my lab and tinker and play with my spreadsheets I mean that's probably like spreadsheets I mean that's probably like spreadsheets I mean that's probably like that probably does a lot of the heavy that probably does a lot of the heavy that probably does a lot of the heavy lifting which is like being rooted

lifting which is like being rooted lifting which is like being rooted grounded in just like a very pedestrian grounded in just like a very pedestrian grounded in just like a very pedestrian normal life you know where like you have normal life you know where like you have normal life you know where like you have friends who know like your neighborhood friends who know like your neighborhood friends who know like your neighborhood dinners like friends who like know dinners like friends who like know dinners like friends who like know nothing about what we do for work don't nothing about what we do for work don't nothing about what we do for work don't care um like you go to a church we've care um like you go to a church we've care um like you go to a church we've got kids who don't care they really got kids who don't care they really got kids who don't care they really don't cuz you're just Dad and so like don't cuz you're just Dad and so like don't cuz you're just Dad and so like maintaining those this week this week Li maintaining those this week this week Li maintaining those this week this week Li was like Dad you're like a big YouTuber was like Dad you're like a big YouTuber was like Dad you're like a big YouTuber right I was like no and she's like this right I was like no and she's like this right I was like no and she's like this person had 18 million followers do you person had 18 million followers do you person had 18 million followers do you have more or less I was like less and have more or less I was like less and have more or less I was like less and she's like she's like she's like oh like she does the splits like she's oh like she does the splits like she's oh like she does the splits like she's like doing gymnastics like you think you like doing gymnastics like you think you like doing gymnastics like you think you could do that no yeah all right like could do that no yeah all right like could do that no yeah all right like they don't care yeah so those like real they don't care yeah so those like real they don't care yeah so those like real life real time relationships just like life real time relationships just like life real time relationships just like serve to keep you grounded it when you serve to keep you grounded it when you serve to keep you grounded it when you do have success or like these like these do have success or like these like these do have success or like these like these accolades that people give you for your accolades that people give you for your accolades that people give you for your online work it's not a Persona because online work it's not a Persona because online work it's not a Persona because it is it is you it is me but it's like it is it is you it is me but it's like it is it is you it is me but it's like it is just work and so yeah those real it is just work and so yeah those real it is just work and so yeah those real life realtime relationships really help life realtime relationships really help life realtime relationships really help to keep keep you grounded and you know to keep keep you grounded and you know to keep keep you grounded and you know you just got to touch grass every day you just got to touch grass every day you just got to touch grass every day yeah yeah you really do yeah that's it yeah yeah you really do yeah that's it yeah yeah you really do yeah that's it thanks everyone for your questions uh thanks everyone for your questions uh thanks everyone for your questions uh you can always send them in to hello you can always send them in to hello you can always send them in to hello prochurchtools outcom you can DM them to prochurchtools outcom you can DM them to prochurchtools outcom you can DM them to me directly on Instagram you can put me directly on Instagram you can put me directly on Instagram you can put them in the comments below any of these them in the comments below any of these them in the comments below any of these videos and we will add them for next videos and we will add them for next videos and we will add them for next month's mailbag put them right into the month's mailbag put them right into the month's mailbag put them right into the randomizer I really likes the randomizer randomizer I really likes the randomizer randomizer I really likes the randomizer on your toes and I didn't do too many on your toes and I didn't do too many on your toes and I didn't do too many notes for this I really just put in the notes for this I really just put in the notes for this I really just put in the questions the way we used to do back in questions the way we used to do back in questions the way we used to do back in the day as and I thought I thought a lot

the day as and I thought I thought a lot the day as and I thought I thought a lot lot better episode good stuff okay lot better episode good stuff okay lot better episode good stuff okay thanks as always for your time attention thanks as always for your time attention thanks as always for your time attention to trust we'll talk to you next to trust we'll talk to you next to trust we'll talk to you next Wednesday oh a water glass from last Wednesday oh a water glass from last Wednesday oh a water glass from last week hiding week hiding week hiding gross okay we're rolling