Speak Confidently on Stage at Church

battling nerves when you're speaking on battling nerves when you're speaking on stage at church is something that we all stage at church is something that we all stage at church is something that we all experience and it doesn't just have to experience and it doesn't just have to experience and it doesn't just have to be a sermon it could be an announcement be a sermon it could be an announcement be a sermon it could be an announcement or prayer today we're sharing our very or prayer today we're sharing our very or prayer today we're sharing our very best tips principles and techniques for best tips principles and techniques for best tips principles and techniques for how to speak confidently on stage at how to speak confidently on stage at how to speak confidently on stage at church so let's dive church so let's dive church so let's dive in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro in well hey there and welcome to the pro Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you Church tool show we're here to help you and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest and your church navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm communication shift in 500 years I'm Brady Sherer your host joined as always Brady Sherer your host joined as always Brady Sherer your host joined as always by my co-host it's Bishop Buck Alexander by my co-host it's Bishop Buck Alexander by my co-host it's Bishop Buck Alexander Mills hello hello and today we're Mills hello hello and today we're Mills hello hello and today we're talking about speaking confidently on talking about speaking confidently on talking about speaking confidently on stage at church got a variety of stage at church got a variety of stage at church got a variety of different principles techniques and tips different principles techniques and tips different principles techniques and tips all of which have alliteration because all of which have alliteration because all of which have alliteration because the number one tip of communicating the number one tip of communicating the number one tip of communicating confid confid confid literation but seriously the first one literation but seriously the first one literation but seriously the first one is called the proximity principle and is called the proximity principle and is called the proximity principle and the proximity principle is a principle the proximity principle is a principle the proximity principle is a principle that that that defines basically like the defines basically like the defines basically like the distance perceived distance and feeling distance perceived distance and feeling distance perceived distance and feeling between you and your audience and so the between you and your audience and so the between you and your audience and so the best way to think about this is when best way to think about this is when best way to think about this is when you're talking with a person one-on-one you're talking with a person one-on-one you're talking with a person one-on-one the proximity principle there you're the proximity principle there you're the proximity principle there you're very close you can see it if you're very close you can see it if you're very close you can see it if you're watching on YouTube maybe Alex and I are watching on YouTube maybe Alex and I are watching on YouTube maybe Alex and I are 2 feet away and so it would be very 2 feet away and so it would be very 2 feet away and so it would be very strange if I was like extremely strange if I was like extremely strange if I was like extremely exaggerative with my gestures and my exaggerative with my gestures and my exaggerative with my gestures and my body language because he would say like body language because he would say like body language because he would say like hey like I'm right here relax this is hey like I'm right here relax this is hey like I'm right here relax this is unnecessary I can hear you we've all met unnecessary I can hear you we've all met unnecessary I can hear you we've all met that person that's a bit of a close that person that's a bit of a close that person that's a bit of a close talker that's the proximity principle talker that's the proximity principle talker that's the proximity principle being being being ignored sometimes we see pastors and ignored sometimes we see pastors and ignored sometimes we see pastors and church leaders have difficulty church leaders have difficulty church leaders have difficulty on camera because they're so used to

on camera because they're so used to on camera because they're so used to speaking from stage and when you're speaking from stage and when you're speaking from stage and when you're speaking from stage You Are by Nature speaking from stage You Are by Nature speaking from stage You Are by Nature whether you are in a large church or a whether you are in a large church or a whether you are in a large church or a smaller Church a lot farther away from smaller Church a lot farther away from smaller Church a lot farther away from people than you would be in a one-on-one people than you would be in a one-on-one people than you would be in a one-on-one conversation and we we we we tend to conversation and we we we we tend to conversation and we we we we tend to pick this up naturally but when you're pick this up naturally but when you're pick this up naturally but when you're on stage and you're speaking to dozens on stage and you're speaking to dozens on stage and you're speaking to dozens or hundreds of people you have to be a or hundreds of people you have to be a or hundreds of people you have to be a little bit bigger with your body body little bit bigger with your body body little bit bigger with your body body language because by the time that body language because by the time that body language because by the time that body language it's like sound when you when language it's like sound when you when language it's like sound when you when you hear it and then it gets to you like you hear it and then it gets to you like you hear it and then it gets to you like by the time that body language reaches by the time that body language reaches by the time that body language reaches the back corner of the room if you the back corner of the room if you the back corner of the room if you aren't a little bit bigger with it that aren't a little bit bigger with it that aren't a little bit bigger with it that proximity will feel that much farther proximity will feel that much farther proximity will feel that much farther away the idea with the proximity away the idea with the proximity away the idea with the proximity principle is to use the right measure of principle is to use the right measure of principle is to use the right measure of body language to reach the person body language to reach the person body language to reach the person depending on their distance the depending on their distance the depending on their distance the challenge that I was mentioning challenge that I was mentioning challenge that I was mentioning previously is when pastors get on camera previously is when pastors get on camera previously is when pastors get on camera and they act on camera like they would and they act on camera like they would and they act on camera like they would on stage right here's the thing about on stage right here's the thing about on stage right here's the thing about talking on camera it's like you're talking on camera it's like you're talking on camera it's like you're talking with someone face to face it is talking with someone face to face it is talking with someone face to face it is a very intimate medium and the more a very intimate medium and the more a very intimate medium and the more intimate in terms of closeness you are intimate in terms of closeness you are intimate in terms of closeness you are with somebody the less big you want to with somebody the less big you want to with somebody the less big you want to be otherwise it's kind of strange yeah be otherwise it's kind of strange yeah be otherwise it's kind of strange yeah this proximity principle and it's it's this proximity principle and it's it's this proximity principle and it's it's funny you know the show this episode is funny you know the show this episode is funny you know the show this episode is about speaking confidently and so you'd about speaking confidently and so you'd about speaking confidently and so you'd think we would start with like maybe the think we would start with like maybe the think we would start with like maybe the linguistic tools to how to speak linguistic tools to how to speak linguistic tools to how to speak confidently uh on stage but we're confidently uh on stage but we're confidently uh on stage but we're talking about body language and that has talking about body language and that has talking about body language and that has a lot to do you know that there are a lot to do you know that there are a lot to do you know that there are folks who talk about communication and folks who talk about communication and folks who talk about communication and and talk about how like you know what we and talk about how like you know what we and talk about how like you know what we say with our body says just as much if say with our body says just as much if say with our body says just as much if not more than what we say with with our not more than what we say with with our not more than what we say with with our voice and with our words and so that's voice and with our words and so that's voice and with our words and so that's so true when it comes to communicating so true when it comes to communicating so true when it comes to communicating in church not just um in a sermon but um

in church not just um in a sermon but um in church not just um in a sermon but um when you're doing announcements when when you're doing announcements when when you're doing announcements when you're the worship leader doing the you're the worship leader doing the you're the worship leader doing the transition when maybe you're praying transition when maybe you're praying transition when maybe you're praying maybe you're praying in a smaller group maybe you're praying in a smaller group maybe you're praying in a smaller group what you're doing with your body says a what you're doing with your body says a what you're doing with your body says a lot about what you're saying with your lot about what you're saying with your lot about what you're saying with your words and so this proximity principle words and so this proximity principle words and so this proximity principle has a lot to do with like being has a lot to do with like being has a lot to do with like being appropriate and filling the space so for appropriate and filling the space so for appropriate and filling the space so for you and I you said it you know we're you and I you said it you know we're you and I you said it you know we're close we don't have to be large and close we don't have to be large and close we don't have to be large and gregarious with with our hands and I I gregarious with with our hands and I I gregarious with with our hands and I I speak to a room that can seat about 100 speak to a room that can seat about 100 speak to a room that can seat about 100 people and so my my animations are a people and so my my animations are a people and so my my animations are a little bit bigger but not too big then little bit bigger but not too big then little bit bigger but not too big then you get into a room where you can sit you get into a room where you can sit you get into a room where you can sit 500 or a th000 people and you're in a 500 or a th000 people and you're in a 500 or a th000 people and you're in a bit of a different situation because in bit of a different situation because in bit of a different situation because in a room that size your body can't get big a room that size your body can't get big a room that size your body can't get big enough to effectively reach the people enough to effectively reach the people enough to effectively reach the people at the back of a thousand seat at the back of a thousand seat at the back of a thousand seat Auditorium and so what we do in rooms of Auditorium and so what we do in rooms of Auditorium and so what we do in rooms of that space is we actually do introduce that space is we actually do introduce that space is we actually do introduce video but it's not pre-recorded it's video but it's not pre-recorded it's video but it's not pre-recorded it's live it's like imag and so what do we do live it's like imag and so what do we do live it's like imag and so what do we do in that circumstance right the principle in that circumstance right the principle in that circumstance right the principle is pretty easy to follow the fewer is pretty easy to follow the fewer is pretty easy to follow the fewer people you're talking to the less Grand people you're talking to the less Grand people you're talking to the less Grand yeah your body language needs to be the yeah your body language needs to be the yeah your body language needs to be the more people you're talking to the more more people you're talking to the more more people you're talking to the more Grand your body language needs to be Grand your body language needs to be Grand your body language needs to be except when you start getting to rooms except when you start getting to rooms except when you start getting to rooms of like thousands and that's when we of like thousands and that's when we of like thousands and that's when we introduce imag and now we're kind of introduce imag and now we're kind of introduce imag and now we're kind of back to what it's like to talk on camera back to what it's like to talk on camera back to what it's like to talk on camera with someone and so once you introduce with someone and so once you introduce with someone and so once you introduce imag you then kind of need to dial back imag you then kind of need to dial back imag you then kind of need to dial back your body language because typically your body language because typically your body language because typically imag is going to put you kind of like imag is going to put you kind of like imag is going to put you kind of like you know about belly button up waist up you know about belly button up waist up you know about belly button up waist up you might cut to a wide shot here and you might cut to a wide shot here and you might cut to a wide shot here and there every so often there every so often there every so often to intimate depending on the of the room to intimate depending on the of the room to intimate depending on the of the room and that's the proximity principle is

and that's the proximity principle is and that's the proximity principle is like the reason IM exists right right like the reason IM exists right right like the reason IM exists right right the idea is that like if we don't have the idea is that like if we don't have the idea is that like if we don't have this people are going to feel no this people are going to feel no this people are going to feel no relationship they're going to feel no relationship they're going to feel no relationship they're going to feel no closeness and the greater the distance closeness and the greater the distance closeness and the greater the distance perceived between you and the person the perceived between you and the person the perceived between you and the person the greater the distance between you and the greater the distance between you and the greater the distance between you and the thing they're trying to communicate thing they're trying to communicate thing they're trying to communicate exctly exactly and that's what the exctly exactly and that's what the exctly exactly and that's what the proximity principle is really all about proximity principle is really all about proximity principle is really all about if you don't feel intimacy with a person if you don't feel intimacy with a person if you don't feel intimacy with a person in terms of closeness it doesn't matter in terms of closeness it doesn't matter in terms of closeness it doesn't matter what they have to say because it's going what they have to say because it's going what they have to say because it's going to feel like they're really really far to feel like they're really really far to feel like they're really really far away and the same thing applies to when away and the same thing applies to when away and the same thing applies to when you're editing sermon clips for your you're editing sermon clips for your you're editing sermon clips for your phone I I don't like putting on a 7 inch phone I I don't like putting on a 7 inch phone I I don't like putting on a 7 inch tall screen a full height shot of tall screen a full height shot of tall screen a full height shot of somebody where you can see like head to somebody where you can see like head to somebody where you can see like head to toe because now they're like a little toe because now they're like a little toe because now they're like a little they're like a little threein person and they're like a little threein person and they're like a little threein person and you don't really feel close to them you don't really feel close to them you don't really feel close to them that's why a lot of the times what you that's why a lot of the times what you that's why a lot of the times what you see with podcasting and clips like that see with podcasting and clips like that see with podcasting and clips like that is it's a expanded person in the frame is it's a expanded person in the frame is it's a expanded person in the frame because the device is so small they're because the device is so small they're because the device is so small they're expanding the person in the frame expanding the person in the frame expanding the person in the frame otherwise they're a small person on a otherwise they're a small person on a otherwise they're a small person on a small device and now you're not feeling small device and now you're not feeling small device and now you're not feeling close to them and when you're not close close to them and when you're not close close to them and when you're not close to someone you don't feel like they're to someone you don't feel like they're to someone you don't feel like they're talking it's like when you don't someone talking it's like when you don't someone talking it's like when you don't someone doesn't look you in the eye it's kind of doesn't look you in the eye it's kind of doesn't look you in the eye it's kind of hard to like it's the same thing this hard to like it's the same thing this hard to like it's the same thing this body language is in many ways the body language is in many ways the body language is in many ways the precursor to what we're about to get to precursor to what we're about to get to precursor to what we're about to get to without the body language being right it without the body language being right it without the body language being right it doesn't matter anything else that we doesn't matter anything else that we doesn't matter anything else that we talk about because it's going to feel so talk about because it's going to feel so talk about because it's going to feel so strange imagine someone that follows all strange imagine someone that follows all strange imagine someone that follows all the best communication tactics but every the best communication tactics but every the best communication tactics but every time they're looking at you they're time they're looking at you they're time they're looking at you they're looking right past you yeah that's all looking right past you yeah that's all looking right past you yeah that's all all you're seeing so so proximity all you're seeing so so proximity all you're seeing so so proximity principle first thing next up we've got principle first thing next up we've got principle first thing next up we've got Pitch pace and pause unlike the Pitch pace and pause unlike the Pitch pace and pause unlike the proximity principle which needs to be proximity principle which needs to be proximity principle which needs to be unpacked a little bit pitch pace and

unpacked a little bit pitch pace and unpacked a little bit pitch pace and pause self-explanatory exactly so why pause self-explanatory exactly so why pause self-explanatory exactly so why don't you embody it for us though for a don't you embody it for us though for a don't you embody it for us though for a second yeah okay I'm going to try my second yeah okay I'm going to try my second yeah okay I'm going to try my very best and try my very best so pitch very best and try my very best so pitch very best and try my very best so pitch of course is the intonation in your of course is the intonation in your of course is the intonation in your voice the to the tone uh so we've all voice the to the tone uh so we've all voice the to the tone uh so we've all sat through a monotone speaker and a sat through a monotone speaker and a sat through a monotone speaker and a monotone speaker why are they difficult monotone speaker why are they difficult monotone speaker why are they difficult to listen to because the tone of voice to listen to because the tone of voice to listen to because the tone of voice helps us understand what's important and helps us understand what's important and helps us understand what's important and the different kind of subconscious cues the different kind of subconscious cues the different kind of subconscious cues of communication if someone's monotone of communication if someone's monotone of communication if someone's monotone we're like I don't know what part is we're like I don't know what part is we're like I don't know what part is important what part's not important is important what part's not important is important what part's not important is there a part that's supposed to be funny there a part that's supposed to be funny there a part that's supposed to be funny is there a part that's light is there a is there a part that's light is there a is there a part that's light is there a part that's heavy is there a part that's part that's heavy is there a part that's part that's heavy is there a part that's a precursor to a part that I'm supposed a precursor to a part that I'm supposed a precursor to a part that I'm supposed to listen to a lot I cannot tell that's to listen to a lot I cannot tell that's to listen to a lot I cannot tell that's what makes pitch so important and the what makes pitch so important and the what makes pitch so important and the brother of pitch is Pace there's this brother of pitch is Pace there's this brother of pitch is Pace there's this nice like staccato effect that you can nice like staccato effect that you can nice like staccato effect that you can get into sometimes preachers can get get into sometimes preachers can get get into sometimes preachers can get really into this when they're trying to really into this when they're trying to really into this when they're trying to make a point and then on the other side make a point and then on the other side make a point and then on the other side of the spectrum you slow things right of the spectrum you slow things right of the spectrum you slow things right down so that you can really get down so that you can really get down so that you can really get attention and emphasize your points and attention and emphasize your points and attention and emphasize your points and then there's the pause there it was the then there's the pause there it was the then there's the pause there it was the pause is the one that's maybe most pause is the one that's maybe most pause is the one that's maybe most uncomfortable not when I'm talking to uncomfortable not when I'm talking to uncomfortable not when I'm talking to Alex because I can pause and I can see Alex because I can pause and I can see Alex because I can pause and I can see him directly and really it's just about him directly and really it's just about him directly and really it's just about me and him and if I pause too long he'll me and him and if I pause too long he'll me and him and if I pause too long he'll just kind of pick right up on this back just kind of pick right up on this back just kind of pick right up on this back and forth podcast when it's just you on and forth podcast when it's just you on and forth podcast when it's just you on a stage every pause and every extra beat a stage every pause and every extra beat a stage every pause and every extra beat in that pause can feel in that pause can feel in that pause can feel uncomfortable rule of thumb you probably uncomfortable rule of thumb you probably uncomfortable rule of thumb you probably want to wait an extra beat or two than want to wait an extra beat or two than want to wait an extra beat or two than feels comfortable uh because our bodies

feels comfortable uh because our bodies feels comfortable uh because our bodies are like stop pausing no one is saying are like stop pausing no one is saying are like stop pausing no one is saying anything say something the reason to anything say something the reason to anything say something the reason to pause is great is because it allows the pause is great is because it allows the pause is great is because it allows the last thing that you said to be more last thing that you said to be more last thing that you said to be more likely retained as information in the likely retained as information in the likely retained as information in the minds of your listeners sometimes a minds of your listeners sometimes a minds of your listeners sometimes a preacher will say something and then preacher will say something and then preacher will say something and then they'll say it again you know you know they'll say it again you know you know they'll say it again you know you know God's love is loud I don't think you God's love is loud I don't think you God's love is loud I don't think you heard me God's love is loud I which you heard me God's love is loud I which you heard me God's love is loud I which you know I think I've done surely uh another know I think I've done surely uh another know I think I've done surely uh another way of doing it maybe a preferred way of way of doing it maybe a preferred way of way of doing it maybe a preferred way of doing it is to make your point and then doing it is to make your point and then doing it is to make your point and then just pause and let it linger what we just pause and let it linger what we just pause and let it linger what we know about the science of the brain and know about the science of the brain and know about the science of the brain and listening to people is that we're always listening to people is that we're always listening to people is that we're always kind of trying to we're always trying to kind of trying to we're always trying to kind of trying to we're always trying to catch up to what people are saying I'm catch up to what people are saying I'm catch up to what people are saying I'm saying something and there are micros saying something and there are micros saying something and there are micros seconds before your brain is like seconds before your brain is like seconds before your brain is like processing what I'm saying so when I processing what I'm saying so when I processing what I'm saying so when I make a really important point and then I make a really important point and then I make a really important point and then I pause your brain kind of catches up and pause your brain kind of catches up and pause your brain kind of catches up and then it holds on that beat and nothing then it holds on that beat and nothing then it holds on that beat and nothing else is being feeded into like your else is being feeded into like your else is being feeded into like your brain Center that has to process things brain Center that has to process things brain Center that has to process things so it's like oh this last thing is the so it's like oh this last thing is the so it's like oh this last thing is the last thing I have and the more that I last thing I have and the more that I last thing I have and the more that I sit with it the less soon it's being sit with it the less soon it's being sit with it the less soon it's being replaced by the next thing that's coming replaced by the next thing that's coming replaced by the next thing that's coming totally so you hold it longer just want totally so you hold it longer just want totally so you hold it longer just want to make sure you pause at the right to make sure you pause at the right to make sure you pause at the right moment you don't want to you know be moment you don't want to you know be moment you don't want to you know be pausing at the wrong moment people pausing at the wrong moment people pausing at the wrong moment people thinking did he forget where he was thinking did he forget where he was thinking did he forget where he was going does she need to check her notes going does she need to check her notes going does she need to check her notes well you know I was watching WWE the well you know I was watching WWE the well you know I was watching WWE the other day like I do yes and uh a new other day like I do yes and uh a new other day like I do yes and uh a new Champion was crowned and this was a Champion was crowned and this was a Champion was crowned and this was a really big deal for this individual really big deal for this individual really big deal for this individual because they had been in the industry because they had been in the industry because they had been in the industry for a long time they had never won a for a long time they had never won a for a long time they had never won a singles Championship but they did win a singles Championship but they did win a singles Championship but they did win a singles championship and there they are singles championship and there they are singles championship and there they are to kick off the show with their new belt to kick off the show with their new belt to kick off the show with their new belt over their shoulder and he's got a mic over their shoulder and he's got a mic over their shoulder and he's got a mic in his hand and he's addressing this

in his hand and he's addressing this in his hand and he's addressing this crowd of like you know 20,000 and he's crowd of like you know 20,000 and he's crowd of like you know 20,000 and he's like let me tell you I'm it was a really like let me tell you I'm it was a really like let me tell you I'm it was a really great win and you could tell he lost his great win and you could tell he lost his great win and you could tell he lost his place in his script and he was pausing place in his script and he was pausing place in his script and he was pausing because he was doing the thing that you because he was doing the thing that you because he was doing the thing that you do like you know I'm pausing for do like you know I'm pausing for do like you know I'm pausing for emphasis but just not at the right point emphasis but just not at the right point emphasis but just not at the right point you can tell like he's pausing not at a you can tell like he's pausing not at a you can tell like he's pausing not at a at not at the end of a point he's at not at the end of a point he's at not at the end of a point he's pausing in the middle of the point pausing in the middle of the point pausing in the middle of the point trying to trying to trying to the end of the point is so yes of theuse the end of the point is so yes of theuse the end of the point is so yes of theuse and the part of theuse does matter I and the part of theuse does matter I and the part of theuse does matter I would recommend you can get real would recommend you can get real would recommend you can get real practical with this you can literally practical with this you can literally practical with this you can literally write in your script if you're newer to write in your script if you're newer to write in your script if you're newer to this like okay here's where I want to this like okay here's where I want to this like okay here's where I want to pause or just in the bullet points you pause or just in the bullet points you pause or just in the bullet points you might have a specific line you know not might have a specific line you know not might have a specific line you know not every sermon not every announcement not every sermon not every announcement not every sermon not every announcement not every thing said publicly from stage is every thing said publicly from stage is every thing said publicly from stage is scripted word for word but sometimes you scripted word for word but sometimes you scripted word for word but sometimes you do have a specific phrasee and you're do have a specific phrasee and you're do have a specific phrasee and you're like okay this is the one I want to get like okay this is the one I want to get like okay this is the one I want to get exactly right and so you can write that exactly right and so you can write that exactly right and so you can write that down and you can even write pause at the down and you can even write pause at the down and you can even write pause at the end it's like she music rest you know so end it's like she music rest you know so end it's like she music rest you know so that you remember when you deliver this that you remember when you deliver this that you remember when you deliver this to pause once you've done it a bunch to pause once you've done it a bunch to pause once you've done it a bunch it'll come more naturally totally and it'll come more naturally totally and it'll come more naturally totally and I've been I've actually been doing this I've been I've actually been doing this I've been I've actually been doing this I've been taking this this pausing for I've been taking this this pausing for I've been taking this this pausing for it's not dramatic effect but pausing for it's not dramatic effect but pausing for it's not dramatic effect but pausing for emphasis I've been taking it a little emphasis I've been taking it a little emphasis I've been taking it a little bit further u in the last handful of bit further u in the last handful of bit further u in the last handful of years of just pausing for about like years of just pausing for about like years of just pausing for about like eight minutes yeah uh no but in teaching eight minutes yeah uh no but in teaching eight minutes yeah uh no but in teaching and preaching and and incorporating um and preaching and and incorporating um and preaching and and incorporating um like intentional moments of reflection like intentional moments of reflection like intentional moments of reflection in the middle of the sermon um sometimes in the middle of the sermon um sometimes in the middle of the sermon um sometimes there's like I'll actually give it an there's like I'll actually give it an there's like I'll actually give it an opportunity for response so it's more of opportunity for response so it's more of opportunity for response so it's more of like a dialogue and less of a monologue like a dialogue and less of a monologue like a dialogue and less of a monologue um but I'm taking the pause and I'm I'm um but I'm taking the pause and I'm I'm um but I'm taking the pause and I'm I'm pushing it a little bit further into the pushing it a little bit further into the pushing it a little bit further into the territory of spiritual formation it's territory of spiritual formation it's territory of spiritual formation it's kind of like you know when you read the kind of like you know when you read the kind of like you know when you read the Psalms and you get like the sea moment

Psalms and you get like the sea moment Psalms and you get like the sea moment um there are some like translations or um there are some like translations or um there are some like translations or or interpretations of the Bible that or interpretations of the Bible that or interpretations of the Bible that will translate salot pause in his will translate salot pause in his will translate salot pause in his presence which is like yeah we just said presence which is like yeah we just said presence which is like yeah we just said something or I just said something or we something or I just said something or we something or I just said something or we just read like a gospel text a few weeks just read like a gospel text a few weeks just read like a gospel text a few weeks ago we were reading uh the Jesus what he ago we were reading uh the Jesus what he ago we were reading uh the Jesus what he had to say about divorce and like it's had to say about divorce and like it's had to say about divorce and like it's pretty sharp it's pretty heavy and so I pretty sharp it's pretty heavy and so I pretty sharp it's pretty heavy and so I that right into what like my intention that right into what like my intention that right into what like my intention was okay let's just sit with that for a was okay let's just sit with that for a was okay let's just sit with that for a moment let's let's employ the spiritual moment let's let's employ the spiritual moment let's let's employ the spiritual practice of like silence and practice of like silence and practice of like silence and contemplation and let's be intentional contemplation and let's be intentional contemplation and let's be intentional about this um I I don't do that every about this um I I don't do that every about this um I I don't do that every time I preach because it would lose the time I preach because it would lose the time I preach because it would lose the weight it would lose the and so potency weight it would lose the and so potency weight it would lose the and so potency if you're looking for a ke word and so if you're looking for a ke word and so if you're looking for a ke word and so like it takes some discernment I I like it takes some discernment I I like it takes some discernment I I employ it um not even regularly but I've employ it um not even regularly but I've employ it um not even regularly but I've started and those moments have I can started and those moments have I can started and those moments have I can tell are are formative at least have the tell are are formative at least have the tell are are formative at least have the potential to be formative um by by potential to be formative um by by potential to be formative um by by pushing the boundary of of the pause a pushing the boundary of of the pause a pushing the boundary of of the pause a little bit um but certainly in in in little bit um but certainly in in in little bit um but certainly in in in every sermon there's there's there's a every sermon there's there's there's a every sermon there's there's there's a moment to to vary your your pitch your moment to to vary your your pitch your moment to to vary your your pitch your pace and uh and a little bit of pause pace and uh and a little bit of pause pace and uh and a little bit of pause for emphasis as opposed to you know like for emphasis as opposed to you know like for emphasis as opposed to you know like you said repeating the sentence I didn't you said repeating the sentence I didn't you said repeating the sentence I didn't hear you again again again an amen you hear you again again again an amen you hear you again again again an amen you don't have to repeat it you could pause don't have to repeat it you could pause don't have to repeat it you could pause and in a way of spiritual practice um and in a way of spiritual practice um and in a way of spiritual practice um get the same emphasis effect okay get the same emphasis effect okay get the same emphasis effect okay everybody say pause everybody say pause everybody say pause now we've talked about the pause but now we've talked about the pause but now we've talked about the pause but we've actually only been talking about we've actually only been talking about we've actually only been talking about one type of pause it's the post pause one type of pause it's the post pause one type of pause it's the post pause can I interest you in a pre- pause pre can I interest you in a pre- pause pre can I interest you in a pre- pause pre which is short for pregnant yes you may

which is short for pregnant yes you may which is short for pregnant yes you may have heard about the pregnant pause so have heard about the pregnant pause so have heard about the pregnant pause so the post pause is for the purpose of the post pause is for the purpose of the post pause is for the purpose of retention I've made a point I'm letting retention I've made a point I'm letting retention I've made a point I'm letting it linger so that you can really grasp it linger so that you can really grasp it linger so that you can really grasp onto it the prea aka the pregnant pause onto it the prea aka the pregnant pause onto it the prea aka the pregnant pause is when you are about to deliver the is when you are about to deliver the is when you are about to deliver the line itself and you're using it to build line itself and you're using it to build line itself and you're using it to build tension so that you gain aention to then tension so that you gain aention to then tension so that you gain aention to then deliver the point yeah now if you are a deliver the point yeah now if you are a deliver the point yeah now if you are a master at this could you combine the master at this could you combine the master at this could you combine the preuse with the post pause I don't know preuse with the post pause I don't know preuse with the post pause I don't know no one's ever tried it it's considered no one's ever tried it it's considered no one's ever tried it it's considered too powerful yeah so the preuse we we've too powerful yeah so the preuse we we've too powerful yeah so the preuse we we've been talking completely about like you been talking completely about like you been talking completely about like you make a point and you stop the pre-a is make a point and you stop the pre-a is make a point and you stop the pre-a is like you're about to say something and like you're about to say something and like you're about to say something and then you just hold it you hold it and then you just hold it you hold it and then you just hold it you hold it and what that does is it allows again what that does is it allows again what that does is it allows again everyone to kind of catch up with you everyone to kind of catch up with you everyone to kind of catch up with you all the processing has been done in the all the processing has been done in the all the processing has been done in the brains of your listeners and now you can brains of your listeners and now you can brains of your listeners and now you can deliver the ual punctuation wow that deliver the ual punctuation wow that deliver the ual punctuation wow that you've built up so good let's get to the you've built up so good let's get to the you've built up so good let's get to the next tip principle technique it's called next tip principle technique it's called next tip principle technique it's called The Power of Storytelling there's The Power of Storytelling there's The Power of Storytelling there's actually three s's though in what I call actually three s's though in what I call actually three s's though in what I call the trip s framework so we are departing the trip s framework so we are departing the trip s framework so we are departing from P into the trip s framework which from P into the trip s framework which from P into the trip s framework which is stories stats and steps depending on is stories stats and steps depending on is stories stats and steps depending on the context you might want to replace the context you might want to replace the context you might want to replace substitute you could say stop it stats substitute you could say stop it stats substitute you could say stop it stats stop with scripture stories scripture stop with scripture stories scripture stop with scripture stories scripture and steps and steps and steps yes storytelling is the most uh powerful yes storytelling is the most uh powerful yes storytelling is the most uh powerful form of human communication uh probably form of human communication uh probably form of human communication uh probably one of the times that you were listening one of the times that you were listening one of the times that you were listening most in this episode was when I was most in this episode was when I was most in this episode was when I was telling you the story of that WWE telling you the story of that WWE telling you the story of that WWE wrestler or when Alex was telling the wrestler or when Alex was telling the wrestler or when Alex was telling the story of when he uh uses the salop and

story of when he uh uses the salop and story of when he uh uses the salop and the pause in his uh sermon delivery the pause in his uh sermon delivery the pause in his uh sermon delivery storytelling is amazing at forcing storytelling is amazing at forcing storytelling is amazing at forcing people to pay attention and it all people to pay attention and it all people to pay attention and it all happens on a subconscious level I'll happens on a subconscious level I'll happens on a subconscious level I'll never forget going back to the church never forget going back to the church never forget going back to the church that I grew up in you know you go back that I grew up in you know you go back that I grew up in you know you go back to the church it's like going back to to the church it's like going back to to the church it's like going back to like your old school and you're like oh like your old school and you're like oh like your old school and you're like oh yeah what's up oh hey how's it going yeah what's up oh hey how's it going yeah what's up oh hey how's it going Miss Thompson good to see you again yeah Miss Thompson good to see you again yeah Miss Thompson good to see you again yeah yeah yeah oh I'll get that Kevin paper yeah yeah oh I'll get that Kevin paper yeah yeah oh I'll get that Kevin paper back you know you're just feeling back you know you're just feeling back you know you're just feeling yourself so I go back with uh with my yourself so I go back with uh with my yourself so I go back with uh with my wife and my brother-in-law my new wife wife and my brother-in-law my new wife wife and my brother-in-law my new wife and my new brother-in-law we're sitting and my new brother-in-law we're sitting and my new brother-in-law we're sitting in the back row you know we're like just in the back row you know we're like just in the back row you know we're like just living it up pastor's delivering a living it up pastor's delivering a living it up pastor's delivering a message like we've heard this one before message like we've heard this one before message like we've heard this one before anyway my brother-in-law he's on his anyway my brother-in-law he's on his anyway my brother-in-law he's on his phone he's not paying attention and then phone he's not paying attention and then phone he's not paying attention and then the pastor transitions into telling a the pastor transitions into telling a the pastor transitions into telling a story and the story starts with story and the story starts with story and the story starts with something like you know I got to tell something like you know I got to tell something like you know I got to tell about this one time and I was paying about this one time and I was paying about this one time and I was paying attention not to the sermon but to my attention not to the sermon but to my attention not to the sermon but to my brother-in-law and he puts down his brother-in-law and he puts down his brother-in-law and he puts down his phone and immediately tilts his head up phone and immediately tilts his head up phone and immediately tilts his head up and starts paying attention and that's and starts paying attention and that's and starts paying attention and that's happening subconsciously he chose a happening subconsciously he chose a happening subconsciously he chose a person telling a story over his phone a person telling a story over his phone a person telling a story over his phone a phone that has had billions of dollars phone that has had billions of dollars phone that has had billions of dollars of architecture done yes in the device of architecture done yes in the device of architecture done yes in the device itself in the hardware in the apps the itself in the hardware in the apps the itself in the hardware in the apps the software to literally extract every Iota software to literally extract every Iota software to literally extract every Iota and ounce of attention it can from a and ounce of attention it can from a and ounce of attention it can from a human being the story was more powerful human being the story was more powerful human being the story was more powerful from the real human being probably from the real human being probably from the real human being probably wasn't even a good one who knows but wasn't even a good one who knows but wasn't even a good one who knows but matter Capt the attention and me telling matter Capt the attention and me telling matter Capt the attention and me telling that story to you listener probably was that story to you listener probably was that story to you listener probably was more we just did it to you we incepted more we just did it to you we incepted more we just did it to you we incepted you story within a story so that's the you story within a story so that's the you story within a story so that's the first thing then we get into stats and first thing then we get into stats and first thing then we get into stats and the reason I include three s's in this the reason I include three s's in this the reason I include three s's in this Tri s framework is because every person

Tri s framework is because every person Tri s framework is because every person receives information differently it is receives information differently it is receives information differently it is universal that humans will listen to universal that humans will listen to universal that humans will listen to stories but that doesn't mean everyone stories but that doesn't mean everyone stories but that doesn't mean everyone will be persuaded by a story let me tell will be persuaded by a story let me tell will be persuaded by a story let me tell you let's imagine an example here go um you let's imagine an example here go um you let's imagine an example here go um Alex did you know that hurricanes aren't Alex did you know that hurricanes aren't Alex did you know that hurricanes aren't real and they're actually um controlled real and they're actually um controlled real and they're actually um controlled by the by the by the government I have a friend Emily and she government I have a friend Emily and she government I have a friend Emily and she has a friend at the doj and like she has a friend at the doj and like she has a friend at the doj and like she said that that's how it goes that's an said that that's how it goes that's an said that that's how it goes that's an interesting story you have my attention interesting story you have my attention interesting story you have my attention at least and I have an anecdotal I have at least and I have an anecdotal I have at least and I have an anecdotal I have anecdotal evidence and that is going to anecdotal evidence and that is going to anecdotal evidence and that is going to prove it to you um that's not compelling prove it to you um that's not compelling prove it to you um that's not compelling for every single person it will get for every single person it will get for every single person it will get people's attention but they might not people's attention but they might not people's attention but they might not hear your point a more serious vers hear your point a more serious vers hear your point a more serious vers might be like if you're on stage and might be like if you're on stage and might be like if you're on stage and you're like guys you know if you're just you're like guys you know if you're just you're like guys you know if you're just faithful with God he'll be faithful to faithful with God he'll be faithful to faithful with God he'll be faithful to you one time I tithed and then like I you one time I tithed and then like I you one time I tithed and then like I was given this gift of $10,000 like was given this gift of $10,000 like was given this gift of $10,000 like someone might hear that and be like okay someone might hear that and be like okay someone might hear that and be like okay that I don't know if that does that that I don't know if that does that that I don't know if that does that doesn't really sound like compelling to doesn't really sound like compelling to doesn't really sound like compelling to me so then you would transition into me so then you would transition into me so then you would transition into scripture or stats I usually go with scripture or stats I usually go with scripture or stats I usually go with stats because I'm not usually saying the stats because I'm not usually saying the stats because I'm not usually saying the Bible says this on how to use Instagram Bible says this on how to use Instagram Bible says this on how to use Instagram right um maybe broadly speaking for right um maybe broadly speaking for right um maybe broadly speaking for philosophy but when it comes to like philosophy but when it comes to like philosophy but when it comes to like specific I'll use stats and I'll tell specific I'll use stats and I'll tell specific I'll use stats and I'll tell you a story of like one time I published you a story of like one time I published you a story of like one time I published a Carousel and this Carousel did a Carousel and this Carousel did a Carousel and this Carousel did extremely well because it had a great extremely well because it had a great extremely well because it had a great hook and then what I also did was I hook and then what I also did was I hook and then what I also did was I tracked every Carousel over the course tracked every Carousel over the course tracked every Carousel over the course of a year on an average a carousel did X of a year on an average a carousel did X of a year on an average a carousel did X Y and Z so then you have your anecdotal Y and Z so then you have your anecdotal Y and Z so then you have your anecdotal piece of evidence that grabs attention piece of evidence that grabs attention piece of evidence that grabs attention and it anchors to a real life story but and it anchors to a real life story but and it anchors to a real life story but then you have like here's how you know then you have like here's how you know then you have like here's how you know it's more broadly true and then steps

it's more broadly true and then steps it's more broadly true and then steps are how you make something actionable so are how you make something actionable so are how you make something actionable so usually how I think about it in my mind usually how I think about it in my mind usually how I think about it in my mind is story stat steps make it interesting is story stat steps make it interesting is story stat steps make it interesting make it true make it yours yeah so I make it true make it yours yeah so I make it true make it yours yeah so I want the steps to be something that a want the steps to be something that a want the steps to be something that a person can grasp and they feel like okay person can grasp and they feel like okay person can grasp and they feel like okay this is now accessible to me yeah and this is now accessible to me yeah and this is now accessible to me yeah and for those of us who are listening to the for those of us who are listening to the for those of us who are listening to the show today who are public speakers who show today who are public speakers who show today who are public speakers who have had the responsibility to be in have had the responsibility to be in have had the responsibility to be in front of a room speaking to a group of front of a room speaking to a group of front of a room speaking to a group of people whether it's an entire church people whether it's an entire church people whether it's an entire church whether it's a small group a team you whether it's a small group a team you whether it's a small group a team you lead what have you we all probably are lead what have you we all probably are lead what have you we all probably are familiar with the feeling in the room or familiar with the feeling in the room or familiar with the feeling in the room or the look on folks faces when you have the look on folks faces when you have the look on folks faces when you have their attention versus when you don't their attention versus when you don't their attention versus when you don't and in my experience you know I'm and in my experience you know I'm and in my experience you know I'm preaching 30 to 40 sermons a year preaching 30 to 40 sermons a year preaching 30 to 40 sermons a year probably most of the time that I know oh probably most of the time that I know oh probably most of the time that I know oh I've got the room it's when I'm either I've got the room it's when I'm either I've got the room it's when I'm either in the middle or at the end of a story in the middle or at the end of a story in the middle or at the end of a story and we we just know this to be true that and we we just know this to be true that and we we just know this to be true that storytelling is the most effective form storytelling is the most effective form storytelling is the most effective form of human communication now to use it as of human communication now to use it as of human communication now to use it as as um a a framework is not coercive and as um a a framework is not coercive and as um a a framework is not coercive and we know this because this is the we know this because this is the we know this because this is the technique that Jesus employed himself technique that Jesus employed himself technique that Jesus employed himself you look at the record of the gospels you look at the record of the gospels you look at the record of the gospels what he had to say and how he had to say what he had to say and how he had to say what he had to say and how he had to say it he routinely was describing the most it he routinely was describing the most it he routinely was describing the most existential truths of the universe life existential truths of the universe life existential truths of the universe life death Heaven and Hell all of it by death Heaven and Hell all of it by death Heaven and Hell all of it by telling stories whether they're short telling stories whether they're short telling stories whether they're short little Parables or or or longer stories little Parables or or or longer stories little Parables or or or longer stories to get people's attention he's talking to get people's attention he's talking to get people's attention he's talking to folks who are fishermen he's talking to folks who are fishermen he's talking to folks who are fishermen he's talking to folks who Farm wheat for a living to folks who Farm wheat for a living to folks who Farm wheat for a living he's speaking into an agrarian culture he's speaking into an agrarian culture he's speaking into an agrarian culture and so he's using that language he's and so he's using that language he's and so he's using that language he's getting their attention and then he and getting their attention and then he and getting their attention and then he and then he anchors it it's like a setup

then he anchors it it's like a setup then he anchors it it's like a setup right again not in a coercive way but right again not in a coercive way but right again not in a coercive way but like in in a way that that plays off of like in in a way that that plays off of like in in a way that that plays off of how our our brains are wired we are how our our brains are wired we are how our our brains are wired we are storytelling beings and that's why we storytelling beings and that's why we storytelling beings and that's why we connect to stories is because we put connect to stories is because we put connect to stories is because we put ourselves in them as we're being told ourselves in them as we're being told ourselves in them as we're being told the story we see ourselves reflected the story we see ourselves reflected the story we see ourselves reflected where do I fit in here so Jesus tells a where do I fit in here so Jesus tells a where do I fit in here so Jesus tells a story about about uh a sewer or what story about about uh a sewer or what story about about uh a sewer or what have you and then he anchors it in in a have you and then he anchors it in in a have you and then he anchors it in in a truth he'll he'll um he'll anchor it in truth he'll he'll um he'll anchor it in truth he'll he'll um he'll anchor it in in a scripture in in some sort of in a scripture in in some sort of in a scripture in in some sort of universal truth that's agreed upon with universal truth that's agreed upon with universal truth that's agreed upon with with the folks that he's talking to and with the folks that he's talking to and with the folks that he's talking to and then he gets to the steps so what right then he gets to the steps so what right then he gets to the steps so what right so I've got your attention maybe I've so I've got your attention maybe I've so I've got your attention maybe I've convinced you with with the stat or in convinced you with with the stat or in convinced you with with the stat or in our case with the scripture and then our case with the scripture and then our case with the scripture and then you're left with okay so wet because we you're left with okay so wet because we you're left with okay so wet because we know that like sermonizing you know uh know that like sermonizing you know uh know that like sermonizing you know uh uh lecturing is really not the most uh lecturing is really not the most uh lecturing is really not the most effective means of spiritual formation effective means of spiritual formation effective means of spiritual formation it's just it just plainly it's not and it's just it just plainly it's not and it's just it just plainly it's not and so we have to do the work to use so we have to do the work to use so we have to do the work to use effective means of human communication effective means of human communication effective means of human communication storytelling and and and and providing storytelling and and and and providing storytelling and and and and providing value to folks convincing them that this value to folks convincing them that this value to folks convincing them that this is true using stats or in our case is true using stats or in our case is true using stats or in our case scripture and then give them an scripture and then give them an scripture and then give them an opportunity so what what are we going to opportunity so what what are we going to opportunity so what what are we going to do now and that's where the text that's do now and that's where the text that's do now and that's where the text that's where the story that's where it all where the story that's where it all where the story that's where it all aligns with the folks who are listening aligns with the folks who are listening aligns with the folks who are listening and say okay now what that's a spiritual and say okay now what that's a spiritual and say okay now what that's a spiritual formation bit and I can tell you that in formation bit and I can tell you that in formation bit and I can tell you that in my teaching and my preaching since I my teaching and my preaching since I my teaching and my preaching since I have like since you've helped me put have like since you've helped me put have like since you've helped me put language to this framework and since language to this framework and since language to this framework and since I've like employed it in an intentional I've like employed it in an intentional I've like employed it in an intentional way I have seen just such a greater way I have seen just such a greater way I have seen just such a greater response not in like oh Pastor Alexander response not in like oh Pastor Alexander response not in like oh Pastor Alexander that's the best sermon I've ever heard that's the best sermon I've ever heard that's the best sermon I've ever heard not that it's it's response in folks

not that it's it's response in folks not that it's it's response in folks actually like taking steps in their actually like taking steps in their actually like taking steps in their Journey with Jesus as a result of Journey with Jesus as a result of Journey with Jesus as a result of hearing a sermon on Sundays because I I hearing a sermon on Sundays because I I hearing a sermon on Sundays because I I got their attention or I regained their got their attention or I regained their got their attention or I regained their attention using a story we pointed to an attention using a story we pointed to an attention using a story we pointed to an external truth whether it's a stat or external truth whether it's a stat or external truth whether it's a stat or the scripture and then laid before us the scripture and then laid before us the scripture and then laid before us all okay so what are we going to do with all okay so what are we going to do with all okay so what are we going to do with that that leads to a step in a journey that that leads to a step in a journey that that leads to a step in a journey with Jesus and I mean Jesus is the with Jesus and I mean Jesus is the with Jesus and I mean Jesus is the teacher of all teachers the rabbi of all teacher of all teachers the rabbi of all teacher of all teachers the rabbi of all rabbis this is the technique he employed rabbis this is the technique he employed rabbis this is the technique he employed so it's like it's not just permissible so it's like it's not just permissible so it's like it's not just permissible it's like it's blessed for us to employ it's like it's blessed for us to employ it's like it's blessed for us to employ as well make it interesting make it true as well make it interesting make it true as well make it interesting make it true make it yours let's employ this make it yours let's employ this make it yours let's employ this practically here it is a couple of days practically here it is a couple of days practically here it is a couple of days until Halloween so your church probably until Halloween so your church probably until Halloween so your church probably has at the time of this recording and has at the time of this recording and has at the time of this recording and Publishing anyway your church probably Publishing anyway your church probably Publishing anyway your church probably has you know some type of event going on has you know some type of event going on has you know some type of event going on so my church is doing Trunk or tree so so my church is doing Trunk or tree so so my church is doing Trunk or tree so let's imagine I was doing an let's imagine I was doing an let's imagine I was doing an announcement for this so speaking announcement for this so speaking announcement for this so speaking publicly from stage can mean sermons it publicly from stage can mean sermons it publicly from stage can mean sermons it can mean announcements it can mean can mean announcements it can mean can mean announcements it can mean prayers and being confident means being prayers and being confident means being prayers and being confident means being confident in the source material that confident in the source material that confident in the source material that you're delivering that's what you have you're delivering that's what you have you're delivering that's what you have to be confident in first so here's how to be confident in first so here's how to be confident in first so here's how it happens in most churches you feel it happens in most churches you feel it happens in most churches you feel like you have to get through the like you have to get through the like you have to get through the information so you go up and you say information so you go up and you say information so you go up and you say probably in a not so confident way probably in a not so confident way probably in a not so confident way because you kind of intuitively know because you kind of intuitively know because you kind of intuitively know that this is not an exciting way of that this is not an exciting way of that this is not an exciting way of sharing something which is probably sharing something which is probably sharing something which is probably internally a bit dissonant because you internally a bit dissonant because you internally a bit dissonant because you really think the event matters but the really think the event matters but the really think the event matters but the way you're talking about it is so lame way you're talking about it is so lame way you're talking about it is so lame oh and this is this this is so plain to oh and this is this this is so plain to oh and this is this this is so plain to see too like it's so easy to perceive see too like it's so easy to perceive see too like it's so easy to perceive this when you're sitting down on the this when you're sitting down on the this when you're sitting down on the receiving end of this type of receiving end of this type of receiving end of this type of communication so you say Trunk or Treat communication so you say Trunk or Treat communication so you say Trunk or Treat is coming up October 31st it's happening is coming up October 31st it's happening is coming up October 31st it's happening from 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. we're going to

from 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. we're going to from 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. we're going to have a bunch of Booth set up don't miss have a bunch of Booth set up don't miss have a bunch of Booth set up don't miss it make sure you say don't miss it St it make sure you say don't miss it St it make sure you say don't miss it St get them to come stats steps as an get them to come stats steps as an get them to come stats steps as an alternative you go up and you go uh alternative you go up and you go uh alternative you go up and you go uh Halloween's a couple days away I don't Halloween's a couple days away I don't Halloween's a couple days away I don't know if you guys have your costumes know if you guys have your costumes know if you guys have your costumes ready uh my youngest daughter is going ready uh my youngest daughter is going ready uh my youngest daughter is going as a pumpkin and she has a pumpkin hat as a pumpkin and she has a pumpkin hat as a pumpkin and she has a pumpkin hat to go with her pumpkin body and it is to go with her pumpkin body and it is to go with her pumpkin body and it is outrageously cute CU she's two years old outrageously cute CU she's two years old outrageously cute CU she's two years old throw a picture up on the screen oh throw a picture up on the screen oh throw a picture up on the screen oh absolutely you got a visual yeah oh absolutely you got a visual yeah oh absolutely you got a visual yeah oh pumpin pumpin pumpin baby and last year at our trunk Retreat baby and last year at our trunk Retreat baby and last year at our trunk Retreat event we had 300 people in the community event we had 300 people in the community event we had 300 people in the community come come come that don't normally come to our Church's that don't normally come to our Church's that don't normally come to our Church's property and one of them um her name was property and one of them um her name was property and one of them um her name was Stacy uh she came to church that Stacy uh she came to church that Stacy uh she came to church that following week and she's been coming she following week and she's been coming she following week and she's been coming she is right here Stacy everyone picture is right here Stacy everyone picture is right here Stacy everyone picture Stacy on the screen now give me a Stacy on the screen now give me a Stacy on the screen now give me a picture of Stacy in a pumpkin costume picture of Stacy in a pumpkin costume picture of Stacy in a pumpkin costume yes thank you so we'd love to have you yes thank you so we'd love to have you yes thank you so we'd love to have you uh to find all the details you can go to uh to find all the details you can go to uh to find all the details you can go to our website.com or for all the details our website.com or for all the details our website.com or for all the details just scan the QR code on the screen for just scan the QR code on the screen for just scan the QR code on the screen for all the details grab look at the all the details grab look at the all the details grab look at the pamphlet that's in the seat back in pamphlet that's in the seat back in pamphlet that's in the seat back in front of you stories stats and steps one front of you stories stats and steps one front of you stories stats and steps one of those things is memorable one of of those things is memorable one of of those things is memorable one of those things is inspiring one of those those things is inspiring one of those those things is inspiring one of those things has a story just a cute little things has a story just a cute little things has a story just a cute little element one of those things has a moment element one of those things has a moment element one of those things has a moment where you might come up to me after where you might come up to me after where you might come up to me after service and say like oh that was so cute service and say like oh that was so cute service and say like oh that was so cute seeing Sadie and that pumpkin uh my my seeing Sadie and that pumpkin uh my my seeing Sadie and that pumpkin uh my my daughter was a pumpkin 5 years ago just daughter was a pumpkin 5 years ago just daughter was a pumpkin 5 years ago just little things it's creating moments why little things it's creating moments why little things it's creating moments why because story does that it involves because story does that it involves because story does that it involves people it gets their attention and you

people it gets their attention and you people it gets their attention and you cannot have next steps save for first cannot have next steps save for first cannot have next steps save for first having someone's attention exactly having someone's attention exactly having someone's attention exactly exactly and you can't expect people to exactly and you can't expect people to exactly and you can't expect people to remember information you can't expect remember information you can't expect remember information you can't expect them to be compelled by that information them to be compelled by that information them to be compelled by that information you may have noticed story stats and you may have noticed story stats and you may have noticed story stats and steps I didn't say any information if steps I didn't say any information if steps I didn't say any information if you want the information go find it yes you want the information go find it yes you want the information go find it yes yeah like go go find it maybe put it on yeah like go go find it maybe put it on yeah like go go find it maybe put it on the screen behind me but I'm not going the screen behind me but I'm not going the screen behind me but I'm not going to waste Breath by saying like it's to waste Breath by saying like it's to waste Breath by saying like it's happening from 2 to 5 it's happening happening from 2 to 5 it's happening happening from 2 to 5 it's happening from 5 to 9 like do you remember that from 5 to 9 like do you remember that from 5 to 9 like do you remember that right no you don't remember that but if right no you don't remember that but if right no you don't remember that but if you want to go you'll be able to find you want to go you'll be able to find you want to go you'll be able to find the information and that's we're having the information and that's we're having the information and that's we're having the next step comes in and this doesn't the next step comes in and this doesn't the next step comes in and this doesn't take a lot of work right like presenting take a lot of work right like presenting take a lot of work right like presenting an announcement like that compared to an announcement like that compared to an announcement like that compared to the other way is not like it's more work the other way is not like it's more work the other way is not like it's more work it's like I forgot my daughter was a it's like I forgot my daughter was a it's like I forgot my daughter was a pumpkin right it just takes intention it pumpkin right it just takes intention it pumpkin right it just takes intention it just takes thought a little bit of just takes thought a little bit of just takes thought a little bit of premeditation and the result is you have premeditation and the result is you have premeditation and the result is you have such a greater possibility for folks for such a greater possibility for folks for such a greater possibility for folks for more folks to take more next steps and more folks to take more next steps and more folks to take more next steps and that's what this is all about that's that's what this is all about that's that's what this is all about that's what all this communication is about what all this communication is about what all this communication is about this is what the communication of Jesus this is what the communication of Jesus this is what the communication of Jesus Christ was about this is what Christ was about this is what Christ was about this is what sermonizing is about this is what sermonizing is about this is what sermonizing is about this is what announcements are about this is what any announcements are about this is what any announcements are about this is what any form of Public Communication in church form of Public Communication in church form of Public Communication in church whether it's to a large group or a small whether it's to a large group or a small whether it's to a large group or a small group is about it's like there's group is about it's like there's group is about it's like there's something important and I want to share something important and I want to share something important and I want to share it with you and in church it probably it with you and in church it probably it with you and in church it probably has to do with like taking a next step has to do with like taking a next step has to do with like taking a next step and so if that's what this is all about and so if that's what this is all about and so if that's what this is all about it's imperative that we're utilizing it's imperative that we're utilizing it's imperative that we're utilizing techniques that actually lead folks to techniques that actually lead folks to techniques that actually lead folks to next steps we all have that uh nightmare next steps we all have that uh nightmare next steps we all have that uh nightmare dream that's recurring of waking up and dream that's recurring of waking up and dream that's recurring of waking up and going to an exam for a test that you did going to an exam for a test that you did going to an exam for a test that you did not prepare for everyone cuz everyone not prepare for everyone cuz everyone not prepare for everyone cuz everyone has that dream right I haven't been in has that dream right I haven't been in has that dream right I haven't been in school in a decade and I still like oh school in a decade and I still like oh school in a decade and I still like oh my gosh it's that high school class that my gosh it's that high school class that my gosh it's that high school class that I yeah whatever that is the same feeling

I yeah whatever that is the same feeling I yeah whatever that is the same feeling happens when you get on stage and you're happens when you get on stage and you're happens when you get on stage and you're either prepared or you're not confident either prepared or you're not confident either prepared or you're not confident in like the preparation you've done the in like the preparation you've done the in like the preparation you've done the reason we recorded this episode is to reason we recorded this episode is to reason we recorded this episode is to give you the road map give you the crib give you the road map give you the crib give you the road map give you the crib sheet the CO's notes whatever you want sheet the CO's notes whatever you want sheet the CO's notes whatever you want to call it so like just look at this to call it so like just look at this to call it so like just look at this follow these steps these principles follow these steps these principles follow these steps these principles these techniques and you're going to be these techniques and you're going to be these techniques and you're going to be comfortable that being said we should comfortable that being said we should comfortable that being said we should still address what we all feel at some still address what we all feel at some still address what we all feel at some point or another in our lives which is point or another in our lives which is point or another in our lives which is like it is not great to talk in front of like it is not great to talk in front of like it is not great to talk in front of people I feel nervous I feel that that people I feel nervous I feel that that people I feel nervous I feel that that that you can feel your heart like that you can feel your heart like that you can feel your heart like literally pounding out of your chest and literally pounding out of your chest and literally pounding out of your chest and you're like will you please just looking you're like will you please just looking you're like will you please just looking down would you please stop that will you down would you please stop that will you down would you please stop that will you stop pounding so hard everyone can hear stop pounding so hard everyone can hear stop pounding so hard everyone can hear that we all know what that feels right that we all know what that feels right that we all know what that feels right so that's interesting that's a physical so that's interesting that's a physical so that's interesting that's a physical sensation yes and I cannot take credit sensation yes and I cannot take credit sensation yes and I cannot take credit for this but a long time ago I heard for this but a long time ago I heard for this but a long time ago I heard from a communicator this simple phrase from a communicator this simple phrase from a communicator this simple phrase that reframed that feeling that physical that reframed that feeling that physical that reframed that feeling that physical sensation in a way that was very helpful sensation in a way that was very helpful sensation in a way that was very helpful for me said this you're not nervous for me said this you're not nervous for me said this you're not nervous you're excited M so when you feel that you're excited M so when you feel that you're excited M so when you feel that physical sensation and you interpret it physical sensation and you interpret it physical sensation and you interpret it as nerves what is it it's now a as nerves what is it it's now a as nerves what is it it's now a liability right you're trying to do liability right you're trying to do liability right you're trying to do right by whatever message you're trying right by whatever message you're trying right by whatever message you're trying to communicate you're trying to remember to communicate you're trying to remember to communicate you're trying to remember the 800 letter PS that I gave you on the 800 letter PS that I gave you on the 800 letter PS that I gave you on this episode and now you're trying trun this episode and now you're trying trun this episode and now you're trying trun Retreat is I just you're trying to Retreat is I just you're trying to Retreat is I just you're trying to stifle this liability and and do stifle this liability and and do stifle this liability and and do whatever you can so that it does not whatever you can so that it does not whatever you can so that it does not disrupt and ruin what you're trying to disrupt and ruin what you're trying to disrupt and ruin what you're trying to do I don't want people to see this yeah do I don't want people to see this yeah do I don't want people to see this yeah inversely if you label that not nerves inversely if you label that not nerves inversely if you label that not nerves but excitement now it's an asset and not

but excitement now it's an asset and not but excitement now it's an asset and not a liability now you're approaching this a liability now you're approaching this a liability now you're approaching this and you're like this excitement I am and you're like this excitement I am and you're like this excitement I am going to channel to do my very best this going to channel to do my very best this going to channel to do my very best this is not nerves this is like this is an is not nerves this is like this is an is not nerves this is like this is an exciting moment what I'm about to say is exciting moment what I'm about to say is exciting moment what I'm about to say is worth being excited about and I am worth being excited about and I am worth being excited about and I am prepared because I have all these tips prepared because I have all these tips prepared because I have all these tips and all these techniques it's it's it's and all these techniques it's it's it's and all these techniques it's it's it's funny it's like Alex said like these funny it's like Alex said like these funny it's like Alex said like these things aren't difficult but there is things aren't difficult but there is things aren't difficult but there is such great power in reframing something such great power in reframing something such great power in reframing something or just not leaning into the default or just not leaning into the default or just not leaning into the default script if I'm just going to read through script if I'm just going to read through script if I'm just going to read through all this information or I'm just going all this information or I'm just going all this information or I'm just going to like deliver this in a monotone voice to like deliver this in a monotone voice to like deliver this in a monotone voice or I'm not going to pre Andor post pause or I'm not going to pre Andor post pause or I'm not going to pre Andor post pause implementing all these things the more implementing all these things the more implementing all these things the more you do it the more becomes subconscious you do it the more becomes subconscious you do it the more becomes subconscious every time we do an episode like this every time we do an episode like this every time we do an episode like this Alex won't stop smirking at me and he Alex won't stop smirking at me and he Alex won't stop smirking at me and he looks over did you know that's how Alex looks over did you know that's how Alex looks over did you know that's how Alex talks did you know it's not how I talk talks did you know it's not how I talk talks did you know it's not how I talk but when you were articulating pitch but when you were articulating pitch but when you were articulating pitch pace and pause you were articulating pace and pause you were articulating pace and pause you were articulating pitch trying to articulate only pitch pitch trying to articulate only pitch pitch trying to articulate only pitch but you were in fact embodying all three but you were in fact embodying all three but you were in fact embodying all three because you've done this for so long and because you've done this for so long and because you've done this for so long and do it so well it's just it's comical in do it so well it's just it's comical in do it so well it's just it's comical in a lovely sense uhhuh well we hope that a lovely sense uhhuh well we hope that a lovely sense uhhuh well we hope that you enjoyed your comedic time with us you enjoyed your comedic time with us you enjoyed your comedic time with us today and see there it is I'll be back today and see there it is I'll be back today and see there it is I'll be back without I'll be here I'll be without I'll be here I'll be without I'll be here I'll be here comic clergyman over here it's so here comic clergyman over here it's so here comic clergyman over here it's so funny you're just good at this okay okay funny you're just good at this okay okay funny you're just good at this okay okay appreciate you appreciate all of you for appreciate you appreciate all of you for appreciate you appreciate all of you for listening for your time attention and listening for your time attention and listening for your time attention and Trust we'll talk to you next Trust we'll talk to you next Trust we'll talk to you next Wednesday so in terms of pitch sometimes Wednesday so in terms of pitch sometimes Wednesday so in terms of pitch sometimes your voice gets a little bit higher your voice gets a little bit higher your voice gets a little bit higher sometimes it gets a little bit sometimes it gets a little bit sometimes it gets a little bit lower how low are you going to go he

lower how low are you going to go he lower how low are you going to go he b b b hey hey hey b he