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about it I respect the you know about it I respect the you know underground marketing that you've done underground marketing that you've done underground marketing that you've done here the controversial Christian here the controversial Christian here the controversial Christian generating controversy on the very first generating controversy on the very first generating controversy on the very first episode especially you know obviously I episode especially you know obviously I episode especially you know obviously I might do that yeah but you the dedicated might do that yeah but you the dedicated might do that yeah but you the dedicated humble moral Pastor that you are to go humble moral Pastor that you are to go humble moral Pastor that you are to go to these lengths just to generate some to these lengths just to generate some to these lengths just to generate some new Buzz for the show you thought the new Buzz for the show you thought the new Buzz for the show you thought the giveaway was going to do it no it's the giveaway was going to do it no it's the giveaway was going to do it no it's the it's it's it's rapping propaganda into it's it's it's rapping propaganda into it's it's it's rapping propaganda into the the drama of the show that of all the the drama of the show that of all the the drama of the show that of all the times that I have attempted to get the times that I have attempted to get the times that I have attempted to get you to compromise your morals and you to compromise your morals and you to compromise your morals and ethical standards to failure I have not ethical standards to failure I have not ethical standards to failure I have not succeeded for it to happen here of your succeeded for it to happen here of your succeeded for it to happen here of your own volition yeah I respect it what a own volition yeah I respect it what a own volition yeah I respect it what a committed company man yes but it is Us committed company man yes but it is Us committed company man yes but it is Us in fact it's you on the other end of our in fact it's you on the other end of our in fact it's you on the other end of our text line so we look forward to your text line so we look forward to your text line so we look forward to your texts your questions and your entries texts your questions and your entries texts your questions and your entries into this this uh giveaway of the summer into this this uh giveaway of the summer into this this uh giveaway of the summer shall we get into the questions indeed shall we get into the questions indeed shall we get into the questions indeed first question what are your thoughts on first question what are your thoughts on first question what are your thoughts on threads is meta doing too much and how threads is meta doing too much and how threads is meta doing too much and how can churches utilize this new social can churches utilize this new social can churches utilize this new social platform all right lots of questions of platform all right lots of questions of platform all right lots of questions of this uh variety and this ilk meta this uh variety and this ilk meta this uh variety and this ilk meta announced threads a couple weeks ago a announced threads a couple weeks ago a announced threads a couple weeks ago a new rival to Twitter and this came on new rival to Twitter and this came on new rival to Twitter and this came on the heels of Twitter's rate limit the heels of Twitter's rate limit the heels of Twitter's rate limit exceeded Fiasco so I'm curious if Meadow exceeded Fiasco so I'm curious if Meadow exceeded Fiasco so I'm curious if Meadow was typically you wouldn't hold back a was typically you wouldn't hold back a was typically you wouldn't hold back a release release release you would put it out as soon as it's you would put it out as soon as it's you would put it out as soon as it's ready in the tech world you know waiting ready in the tech world you know waiting ready in the tech world you know waiting is not something that is uh typically uh is not something that is uh typically uh is not something that is uh typically uh practiced practiced practiced it did seem like very convenient timing it did seem like very convenient timing it did seem like very convenient timing for Twitter to have this huge Fiasco for Twitter to have this huge Fiasco for Twitter to have this huge Fiasco where literally tweets weren't loading where literally tweets weren't loading where literally tweets weren't loading probably the worst

probably the worst probably the worst misstep let's call it a vlan's young misstep let's call it a vlan's young misstep let's call it a vlan's young tenure as the head of Twitter and then tenure as the head of Twitter and then tenure as the head of Twitter and then for Zuck to slip in and be like yeah for Zuck to slip in and be like yeah for Zuck to slip in and be like yeah I've been in the gym but I've also been I've been in the gym but I've also been I've been in the gym but I've also been in the lab he came off the top rope and in the lab he came off the top rope and in the lab he came off the top rope and I use the wrestling analogy because I I use the wrestling analogy because I I use the wrestling analogy because I don't know if these guys are gonna fight don't know if these guys are gonna fight don't know if these guys are gonna fight but it seems like they're actually going but it seems like they're actually going but it seems like they're actually going to physically fight did you see the to physically fight did you see the to physically fight did you see the picture of Zuckerberg on Twitter picture of Zuckerberg on Twitter picture of Zuckerberg on Twitter yesterday he's yoked he is just chiseled yesterday he's yoked he is just chiseled yesterday he's yoked he is just chiseled I mean work on the chest here my guy I mean work on the chest here my guy I mean work on the chest here my guy well yeah but he came off the top rope well yeah but he came off the top rope well yeah but he came off the top rope with this app at the perfect time with this app at the perfect time with this app at the perfect time because Twitter was literally and we've because Twitter was literally and we've because Twitter was literally and we've we've Twitter has had many meltdowns we've Twitter has had many meltdowns we've Twitter has had many meltdowns especially since uh you know the new especially since uh you know the new especially since uh you know the new captain is at the helm there but it was captain is at the helm there but it was captain is at the helm there but it was having an a meltdown of epic proportions having an a meltdown of epic proportions having an a meltdown of epic proportions and Instagram meta just comes over the and Instagram meta just comes over the and Instagram meta just comes over the top and says you know what click this top and says you know what click this top and says you know what click this button and you'll have a new social button and you'll have a new social button and you'll have a new social profile set up and here's your new profile set up and here's your new profile set up and here's your new Twitter Twitter Twitter and within the first hour of the release and within the first hour of the release and within the first hour of the release I had merged the accounts created the I had merged the accounts created the I had merged the accounts created the account the head of Instagram is already account the head of Instagram is already account the head of Instagram is already slandering yeah Twitter slandering yeah Twitter slandering yeah Twitter I I I it's so funny because you see them in it's so funny because you see them in it's so funny because you see them in their uh you know these are publicly their uh you know these are publicly their uh you know these are publicly traded companies so there's a lot of traded companies so there's a lot of traded companies so there's a lot of reporting there is a lot of press reporting there is a lot of press reporting there is a lot of press appearances where they are you know appearances where they are you know appearances where they are you know buttoned up and they are following the buttoned up and they are following the buttoned up and they are following the pr scripts that they have prepared and pr scripts that they have prepared and pr scripts that they have prepared and then they launch their new app and and then they launch their new app and and then they launch their new app and and they really joke yeah we're they're all they really joke yeah we're they're all they really joke yeah we're they're all just like kids and they're computers the just like kids and they're computers the just like kids and they're computers the way we are at our like everyone is the way we are at our like everyone is the way we are at our like everyone is the same at the end of the day here's the same at the end of the day here's the same at the end of the day here's the thing when new platforms debut they

thing when new platforms debut they thing when new platforms debut they always generate a ton of Buzz we have always generate a ton of Buzz we have always generate a ton of Buzz we have gone through this enough times and we gone through this enough times and we gone through this enough times and we have seen this happen where is this have seen this happen where is this have seen this happen where is this going to change everything and I get a going to change everything and I get a going to change everything and I get a million DMS and 100 emails and people be million DMS and 100 emails and people be million DMS and 100 emails and people be like what should we do like is this like what should we do like is this like what should we do like is this going to change everything and my my going to change everything and my my going to change everything and my my response always and with this platform response always and with this platform response always and with this platform is the same is the same is the same hit pause nothing has changed this hit pause nothing has changed this hit pause nothing has changed this platform is going to generate a ton of platform is going to generate a ton of platform is going to generate a ton of Buzz they are going to you know to the Buzz they are going to you know to the Buzz they are going to you know to the to the horn oh 100 million new to the horn oh 100 million new to the horn oh 100 million new subscribers the fastest growing platform subscribers the fastest growing platform subscribers the fastest growing platform of all time these don't mean anything of all time these don't mean anything of all time these don't mean anything none of these numbers mean anything okay none of these numbers mean anything okay none of these numbers mean anything okay because what does matter is once the because what does matter is once the because what does matter is once the buzz has settled once the brouhaha has buzz has settled once the brouhaha has buzz has settled once the brouhaha has simmered will the platform have carved simmered will the platform have carved simmered will the platform have carved out a unique base and a unique Niche out a unique base and a unique Niche out a unique base and a unique Niche within the social uh escape to to stick within the social uh escape to to stick within the social uh escape to to stick around and I'll tell you this I don't around and I'll tell you this I don't around and I'll tell you this I don't make social media predictions you've make social media predictions you've make social media predictions you've dm'd me great what's next I do not make dm'd me great what's next I do not make dm'd me great what's next I do not make social media predictions why because social media predictions why because social media predictions why because there's so much opportunity that exists there's so much opportunity that exists there's so much opportunity that exists right now that I would much rather look right now that I would much rather look right now that I would much rather look at the state of this very young industry at the state of this very young industry at the state of this very young industry and take advantage of what's here right and take advantage of what's here right and take advantage of what's here right now sure rather than try to guess at now sure rather than try to guess at now sure rather than try to guess at what's next this is not real estate what's next this is not real estate what's next this is not real estate where you need to let guess where the where you need to let guess where the where you need to let guess where the next Gold Rush is going to be to get in next Gold Rush is going to be to get in next Gold Rush is going to be to get in on the ground that's not really where on the ground that's not really where on the ground that's not really where social's at because it's still so young social's at because it's still so young social's at because it's still so young of an industry of an industry of an industry with all that being said with all that being said with all that being said I would be surprised and glad to be I would be surprised and glad to be I would be surprised and glad to be proven wrong I would be surprised if proven wrong I would be surprised if proven wrong I would be surprised if threads becomes a big thing threads becomes a big thing threads becomes a big thing yeah I mean like Twitter is commonly

yeah I mean like Twitter is commonly yeah I mean like Twitter is commonly referred to as this the the social the referred to as this the the social the referred to as this the the social the Public Square on the internet and that's Public Square on the internet and that's Public Square on the internet and that's how it functions for me I think threads how it functions for me I think threads how it functions for me I think threads is really cool and I think first of all is really cool and I think first of all is really cool and I think first of all the the transition from from Instagram the the transition from from Instagram the the transition from from Instagram to setting up your threads account was to setting up your threads account was to setting up your threads account was so effortless so seamless it's obviously so effortless so seamless it's obviously so effortless so seamless it's obviously why they have it was like seven or ten why they have it was like seven or ten why they have it was like seven or ten million users in the first I don't know million users in the first I don't know million users in the first I don't know how many minutes and then uh in the how many minutes and then uh in the how many minutes and then uh in the first week 100 million users like a ton first week 100 million users like a ton first week 100 million users like a ton of users they did that work for us and of users they did that work for us and of users they did that work for us and made it easy to transition the the app made it easy to transition the the app made it easy to transition the the app is pretty awesome it feels a lot like is pretty awesome it feels a lot like is pretty awesome it feels a lot like Twitter it's it's nice looking it Twitter it's it's nice looking it Twitter it's it's nice looking it functions well functions well functions well um the feed has some problems with the um the feed has some problems with the um the feed has some problems with the algorithm that I don't prefer and I algorithm that I don't prefer and I algorithm that I don't prefer and I think that there's a potential and an think that there's a potential and an think that there's a potential and an opportunity for uh for use especially opportunity for uh for use especially opportunity for uh for use especially with Brands and such that have with Brands and such that have with Brands and such that have established Instagram followings which established Instagram followings which established Instagram followings which we're going to get into but I just don't we're going to get into but I just don't we're going to get into but I just don't see a future and again happy to be see a future and again happy to be see a future and again happy to be proven wrong here for myself but I don't proven wrong here for myself but I don't proven wrong here for myself but I don't see a future of it becoming the new see a future of it becoming the new see a future of it becoming the new Public Square on the internet Public Square on the internet Public Square on the internet Twitter has just been so established and Twitter has just been so established and Twitter has just been so established and and I find myself my own personal use and I find myself my own personal use and I find myself my own personal use like my Twitter feed is so curated like my Twitter feed is so curated like my Twitter feed is so curated because I've been on there for years because I've been on there for years because I've been on there for years like like like I could use threads in the same way I I could use threads in the same way I I could use threads in the same way I could start posting what I post on could start posting what I post on could start posting what I post on Twitter to threads but the Public Square Twitter to threads but the Public Square Twitter to threads but the Public Square that I've curated on Twitter like I'm that I've curated on Twitter like I'm that I've curated on Twitter like I'm not going to go out of my way to not going to go out of my way to not going to go out of my way to recreate that on thread so I think recreate that on thread so I think recreate that on thread so I think there's a new opportunity but I'm not there's a new opportunity but I'm not there's a new opportunity but I'm not confident it's going to replace what confident it's going to replace what confident it's going to replace what Twitter how Twitter functions for most Twitter how Twitter functions for most Twitter how Twitter functions for most people yeah and we talked about this people yeah and we talked about this people yeah and we talked about this recently we're starting to see the

recently we're starting to see the recently we're starting to see the stratification of social media platforms stratification of social media platforms stratification of social media platforms and so when I say I don't see threads and so when I say I don't see threads and so when I say I don't see threads becoming a big thing what I mean is I becoming a big thing what I mean is I becoming a big thing what I mean is I don't see it elevating itself to the don't see it elevating itself to the don't see it elevating itself to the status of what we typically think of status of what we typically think of status of what we typically think of when we think of a major social platform when we think of a major social platform when we think of a major social platform we think of Twitter Facebook YouTube we think of Twitter Facebook YouTube we think of Twitter Facebook YouTube Instagram I don't anticipate threads Instagram I don't anticipate threads Instagram I don't anticipate threads reaching that status that doesn't mean reaching that status that doesn't mean reaching that status that doesn't mean that it won't be able to carve out its that it won't be able to carve out its that it won't be able to carve out its own little space but traditionally thus own little space but traditionally thus own little space but traditionally thus far in the first 15 10 years of social far in the first 15 10 years of social far in the first 15 10 years of social we haven't seen that become a thing we haven't seen that become a thing we haven't seen that become a thing anytime a platform has carved out a anytime a platform has carved out a anytime a platform has carved out a unique space it has either been acquired unique space it has either been acquired unique space it has either been acquired by one of the big platforms or the by one of the big platforms or the by one of the big platforms or the features have been copied by one of the features have been copied by one of the features have been copied by one of the big platforms and it has not been able big platforms and it has not been able big platforms and it has not been able to maintain a its rise and it's kind of to maintain a its rise and it's kind of to maintain a its rise and it's kind of just descended into mediocrity or just just descended into mediocrity or just just descended into mediocrity or just hey it fizzled out hey it fizzled out hey it fizzled out so is there a middle ground I think that so is there a middle ground I think that so is there a middle ground I think that going forward we are gonna there's the going forward we are gonna there's the going forward we are gonna there's the potential that we'll begin to see that potential that we'll begin to see that potential that we'll begin to see that middle ground we're a platform it's it's middle ground we're a platform it's it's middle ground we're a platform it's it's not one of the big five but it's also not one of the big five but it's also not one of the big five but it's also not just descending Into Obscurity not just descending Into Obscurity not just descending Into Obscurity because it's been dwarfed by one of the because it's been dwarfed by one of the because it's been dwarfed by one of the big five is there a place for a middle big five is there a place for a middle big five is there a place for a middle class as it were social platform perhaps class as it were social platform perhaps class as it were social platform perhaps we haven't seen it so far but as we see we haven't seen it so far but as we see we haven't seen it so far but as we see more of the stratification of social more of the stratification of social more of the stratification of social platforms where not every person is on platforms where not every person is on platforms where not every person is on every platform but people choose the every platform but people choose the every platform but people choose the platforms they want it's kind of like platforms they want it's kind of like platforms they want it's kind of like this is a terrible analogy but it's the this is a terrible analogy but it's the this is a terrible analogy but it's the only one I can think of all right only one I can think of all right only one I can think of all right imagine if one day imagine if one day imagine if one day and it never existed before a restaurant and it never existed before a restaurant and it never existed before a restaurant opened where you could go out and eat opened where you could go out and eat opened where you could go out and eat dinner previously all we did was make dinner previously all we did was make dinner previously all we did was make meals at home but now there was this meals at home but now there was this meals at home but now there was this place where you could make a meal

place where you could make a meal place where you could make a meal someone made for you someone made for you someone made for you and it was like the only place in town and it was like the only place in town and it was like the only place in town and then like a couple years later and then like a couple years later and then like a couple years later another place opened and a couple years another place opened and a couple years another place opened and a couple years later another place opened and these later another place opened and these later another place opened and these like three places were the only places like three places were the only places like three places were the only places you can eat and in every city there are you can eat and in every city there are you can eat and in every city there are these three places these three places these three places and then every time a new place oh no we and then every time a new place oh no we and then every time a new place oh no we do Mexican food one of the big three was do Mexican food one of the big three was do Mexican food one of the big three was like cool we'll do that too like cool we'll do that too like cool we'll do that too and they were just so big it didn't and they were just so big it didn't and they were just so big it didn't really matter if the Mexican food was really matter if the Mexican food was really matter if the Mexican food was quite as good but hey you know it's just quite as good but hey you know it's just quite as good but hey you know it's just all in one place I'm already going there all in one place I'm already going there all in one place I'm already going there we already all know it we'll just keeps we already all know it we'll just keeps we already all know it we'll just keeps going there going there going there eventually though a place comes that's eventually though a place comes that's eventually though a place comes that's so good and it can't be copied that yeah so good and it can't be copied that yeah so good and it can't be copied that yeah it never it never it never elevates to be as big as one of those elevates to be as big as one of those elevates to be as big as one of those big three but it like it has its own big three but it like it has its own big three but it like it has its own spot it has carved out its own area spot it has carved out its own area spot it has carved out its own area Industries do evolve in that way we Industries do evolve in that way we Industries do evolve in that way we haven't seen that yet with social seems haven't seen that yet with social seems haven't seen that yet with social seems possible though yeah I this is so possible though yeah I this is so possible though yeah I this is so interesting from from Instagram interesting from from Instagram interesting from from Instagram specifically because they've tried this specifically because they've tried this specifically because they've tried this before with igtv I remember when igtv before with igtv I remember when igtv before with igtv I remember when igtv was its own Standalone app great is igtv was its own Standalone app great is igtv was its own Standalone app great is igtv the future honestly and it's like they the future honestly and it's like they the future honestly and it's like they wanted to do longer form video and so wanted to do longer form video and so wanted to do longer form video and so they moved it to another app is YouTube they moved it to another app is YouTube they moved it to another app is YouTube done yes some of us started using it and done yes some of us started using it and done yes some of us started using it and then just kind of like quietly got got then just kind of like quietly got got then just kind of like quietly got got absorbed back into the app igtv was part absorbed back into the app igtv was part absorbed back into the app igtv was part of the Instagram app for a while and now of the Instagram app for a while and now of the Instagram app for a while and now it just you can't post long form videos it just you can't post long form videos it just you can't post long form videos there anymore at all there anymore at all there anymore at all um now this Instagram has tried like um now this Instagram has tried like um now this Instagram has tried like text-based sharing Instagram has tried text-based sharing Instagram has tried text-based sharing Instagram has tried in a few ways in the Instagram app with in a few ways in the Instagram app with in a few ways in the Instagram app with like um the community notes feature like um the community notes feature like um the community notes feature where you can share a text-based note of where you can share a text-based note of where you can share a text-based note of I don't know how many characters it was

I don't know how many characters it was I don't know how many characters it was like 40 characters for 24 hours kind of like 40 characters for 24 hours kind of like 40 characters for 24 hours kind of like a story and then they also have I like a story and then they also have I like a story and then they also have I forget the name of it off the top of my forget the name of it off the top of my forget the name of it off the top of my head yeah but the thing where you can oh head yeah but the thing where you can oh head yeah but the thing where you can oh a broadcast channel the broadcast a broadcast channel the broadcast a broadcast channel the broadcast channel but then there was also like channel but then there was also like channel but then there was also like collections or posts or guy guides collections or posts or guy guides collections or posts or guy guides guides yes and it's like so they've guides yes and it's like so they've guides yes and it's like so they've tried some things that aren't tried some things that aren't tried some things that aren't um visual based and more Tech space that um visual based and more Tech space that um visual based and more Tech space that haven't gone off on their own now haven't gone off on their own now haven't gone off on their own now they've brought that outside the app they've brought that outside the app they've brought that outside the app into a new app that definitely has much into a new app that definitely has much into a new app that definitely has much more traction than igtv ever did because more traction than igtv ever did because more traction than igtv ever did because it functions like Twitter which is an it functions like Twitter which is an it functions like Twitter which is an app that a lot of us are using like I'm app that a lot of us are using like I'm app that a lot of us are using like I'm on Twitter more than any other social on Twitter more than any other social on Twitter more than any other social platform same and so it is they have platform same and so it is they have platform same and so it is they have tried this like what does it say about tried this like what does it say about tried this like what does it say about us yeah they're real sickos yeah us yeah they're real sickos yeah us yeah they're real sickos yeah portioning features off to other apps portioning features off to other apps portioning features off to other apps before with igtv I feel this one to be before with igtv I feel this one to be before with igtv I feel this one to be different and we'll see if it carves out different and we'll see if it carves out different and we'll see if it carves out a little niche where Brands figure out a a little niche where Brands figure out a a little niche where Brands figure out a way to use because Brands especially way to use because Brands especially way to use because Brands especially small Brands don't do well on Twitter small Brands don't do well on Twitter small Brands don't do well on Twitter because they don't have an existing because they don't have an existing because they don't have an existing audience there it's really hard to build audience there it's really hard to build audience there it's really hard to build an existing audience Twitter is the an existing audience Twitter is the an existing audience Twitter is the hardest place for me to build an hardest place for me to build an hardest place for me to build an audience like I've been on Twitter for a audience like I've been on Twitter for a audience like I've been on Twitter for a long time I have more followers on long time I have more followers on long time I have more followers on threads than I have on Twitter already threads than I have on Twitter already threads than I have on Twitter already isn't that it's been five days yeah like isn't that it's been five days yeah like isn't that it's been five days yeah like I have over 2 000 followers on threads I have over 2 000 followers on threads I have over 2 000 followers on threads I've been tweeting a lot and some pretty I've been tweeting a lot and some pretty I've been tweeting a lot and some pretty good content I think all right for a good content I think all right for a good content I think all right for a long time like 396 followers on Twitter long time like 396 followers on Twitter long time like 396 followers on Twitter or something it's really hard to grow an or something it's really hard to grow an or something it's really hard to grow an audience there so for small local audience there so for small local audience there so for small local businesses you get to bring your businesses you get to bring your businesses you get to bring your existing Instagram audience over to a existing Instagram audience over to a existing Instagram audience over to a text-based app kind of like Twitter and text-based app kind of like Twitter and text-based app kind of like Twitter and you get to start sharing different type you get to start sharing different type you get to start sharing different type of content there I think there's an of content there I think there's an of content there I think there's an opportunity there and I hope it sticks opportunity there and I hope it sticks opportunity there and I hope it sticks around for that reason so great point

around for that reason so great point around for that reason so great point because churches ask me should we be on because churches ask me should we be on because churches ask me should we be on Twitter and I say like unless you're a Twitter and I say like unless you're a Twitter and I say like unless you're a pastor is Derwin gray right pastor is Derwin gray right pastor is Derwin gray right has the following loves Twitter clearly has the following loves Twitter clearly has the following loves Twitter clearly no and even Derwin he tweeted a bunch no and even Derwin he tweeted a bunch no and even Derwin he tweeted a bunch recently he's like you know what I've recently he's like you know what I've recently he's like you know what I've had enough of Twitter and then someone had enough of Twitter and then someone had enough of Twitter and then someone sent him our show and he was like you sent him our show and he was like you sent him our show and he was like you know what seems like people are know what seems like people are know what seems like people are positively impacted I'll stay on so even positively impacted I'll stay on so even positively impacted I'll stay on so even the ones that have a following are like the ones that have a following are like the ones that have a following are like is this worth it is this worth it is this worth it so what we'll also say is how might we so what we'll also say is how might we so what we'll also say is how might we be wrong well what did threads do that be wrong well what did threads do that be wrong well what did threads do that was really cool and no other platform was really cool and no other platform was really cool and no other platform has done before they allowed you to has done before they allowed you to has done before they allowed you to bring your existing audience to this new bring your existing audience to this new bring your existing audience to this new platform yeah that has never been done platform yeah that has never been done platform yeah that has never been done in the history of social every time a in the history of social every time a in the history of social every time a new platform has come out we have had to new platform has come out we have had to new platform has come out we have had to start from scratch Snapchat comes out start from scratch Snapchat comes out start from scratch Snapchat comes out start from scratch Tick Tock comes out start from scratch Tick Tock comes out start from scratch Tick Tock comes out start from scratch Instagram comes out start from scratch Instagram comes out start from scratch Instagram comes out Twitter comes out we start from scratch Twitter comes out we start from scratch Twitter comes out we start from scratch YouTube comes out we start from scratch YouTube comes out we start from scratch YouTube comes out we start from scratch that was 2005 so of course we started that was 2005 so of course we started that was 2005 so of course we started from scratch from scratch from scratch Instagram threads releases and they Instagram threads releases and they Instagram threads releases and they allow you to connect your existing allow you to connect your existing allow you to connect your existing account choose yes I want to bring over account choose yes I want to bring over account choose yes I want to bring over my followers and following and now you my followers and following and now you my followers and following and now you have a ton of momentum and inertia from have a ton of momentum and inertia from have a ton of momentum and inertia from day one yeah that had never been done day one yeah that had never been done day one yeah that had never been done before and so I think what that does is before and so I think what that does is before and so I think what that does is it encourages people to post it it encourages people to post it it encourages people to post it encourages people to engage it encourages people to engage it encourages people to engage it encourages people to open the app encourages people to open the app encourages people to open the app because they know because they know because they know all the people that have chosen to all the people that have chosen to all the people that have chosen to follow me that I've worked hard to follow me that I've worked hard to follow me that I've worked hard to curate over the years they're already curate over the years they're already curate over the years they're already here and that could be the reason that here and that could be the reason that here and that could be the reason that it beats the odds in respect to I guess it beats the odds in respect to I guess it beats the odds in respect to I guess our skepticism that it becomes a our skepticism that it becomes a our skepticism that it becomes a platform and you're getting engagement platform and you're getting engagement platform and you're getting engagement right away because your audience is

right away because your audience is right away because your audience is there sometimes for me on Twitter I'll there sometimes for me on Twitter I'll there sometimes for me on Twitter I'll post something and it feels like posting post something and it feels like posting post something and it feels like posting into the void and it's like some people into the void and it's like some people into the void and it's like some people may see this and I just have to pray may see this and I just have to pray may see this and I just have to pray that the algorithm shows it to more that the algorithm shows it to more that the algorithm shows it to more people than are normally going to see it people than are normally going to see it people than are normally going to see it but on threads especially because it's but on threads especially because it's but on threads especially because it's new and people are like actively new and people are like actively new and people are like actively checking it out you come over with your checking it out you come over with your checking it out you come over with your existing audience your first thread existing audience your first thread existing audience your first thread already has an existing audience people already has an existing audience people already has an existing audience people are listening and because people are are listening and because people are are listening and because people are trying this new shiny thing they're trying this new shiny thing they're trying this new shiny thing they're responding and so there's an engagement responding and so there's an engagement responding and so there's an engagement like Loop the feedback loop happening like Loop the feedback loop happening like Loop the feedback loop happening already already already um and it's it's been really cool to see um and it's it's been really cool to see um and it's it's been really cool to see that engagement at least but like I said that engagement at least but like I said that engagement at least but like I said the feed right now you don't have a the feed right now you don't have a the feed right now you don't have a following feed which is a mess like if following feed which is a mess like if following feed which is a mess like if I'm going to spend time on threads I I'm going to spend time on threads I I'm going to spend time on threads I want to see the people I'm following want to see the people I'm following want to see the people I'm following because the algorithmic kind of for you because the algorithmic kind of for you because the algorithmic kind of for you feed right now is just no fun at all for feed right now is just no fun at all for feed right now is just no fun at all for me at least it's just because I don't me at least it's just because I don't me at least it's just because I don't follow many people on threads yet it's follow many people on threads yet it's follow many people on threads yet it's just kind of a hot mess of popular just kind of a hot mess of popular just kind of a hot mess of popular culture things that I don't care about culture things that I don't care about culture things that I don't care about so that's why I find myself just swiping so that's why I find myself just swiping so that's why I find myself just swiping back to the Bird app so let's look at back to the Bird app so let's look at back to the Bird app so let's look at the engagement okay so I have 12 000 the engagement okay so I have 12 000 the engagement okay so I have 12 000 north of 12 000 followers on threads north of 12 000 followers on threads north of 12 000 followers on threads I've published half a dozen times here A I've published half a dozen times here A I've published half a dozen times here A bunch of a variety of different content bunch of a variety of different content bunch of a variety of different content the highest engaged post I have is kind the highest engaged post I have is kind the highest engaged post I have is kind of in that first 48 Hours where everyone of in that first 48 Hours where everyone of in that first 48 Hours where everyone was opening their app 350 likes 36 was opening their app 350 likes 36 was opening their app 350 likes 36 replies and it's me talking about replies and it's me talking about replies and it's me talking about threads right so it's meta it's highly threads right so it's meta it's highly threads right so it's meta it's highly topical during those first 48 hours topical during those first 48 hours topical during those first 48 hours other posts 61 likes that was my first other posts 61 likes that was my first other posts 61 likes that was my first one 29 likes one 29 likes one 29 likes 95 likes eight likes 17 likes which are

95 likes eight likes 17 likes which are 95 likes eight likes 17 likes which are the last two okay and so what I'm kind the last two okay and so what I'm kind the last two okay and so what I'm kind of seeing already is hey the buzz and of seeing already is hey the buzz and of seeing already is hey the buzz and the momentum is dropping off and is it the momentum is dropping off and is it the momentum is dropping off and is it able to able to able to create the behavior where when we open create the behavior where when we open create the behavior where when we open our app we want to open threads we have our app we want to open threads we have our app we want to open threads we have the behavior I'm gonna open my phone oh the behavior I'm gonna open my phone oh the behavior I'm gonna open my phone oh and check out this app this app this app and check out this app this app this app and check out this app this app this app this app threads isn't one of those apps this app threads isn't one of those apps this app threads isn't one of those apps right so how does it become one of those right so how does it become one of those right so how does it become one of those apps that's the uphill battle that all apps that's the uphill battle that all apps that's the uphill battle that all of these platforms face now threads of these platforms face now threads of these platforms face now threads uniquely has some things going forward uniquely has some things going forward uniquely has some things going forward as we've discussed so what should you as as we've discussed so what should you as as we've discussed so what should you as a church do a church do a church do what I always recommend for every what I always recommend for every what I always recommend for every platform threads is no different create platform threads is no different create platform threads is no different create your account secure your username poke your account secure your username poke your account secure your username poke around publish a couple of times so it around publish a couple of times so it around publish a couple of times so it doesn't just look like a kind of a you doesn't just look like a kind of a you doesn't just look like a kind of a you know a ghost town on your account and know a ghost town on your account and know a ghost town on your account and kind of just observe because you don't kind of just observe because you don't kind of just observe because you don't want to stop what you're doing already want to stop what you're doing already want to stop what you're doing already do not abandon your established do not abandon your established do not abandon your established platforms for the new one unless you platforms for the new one unless you platforms for the new one unless you want to play that kind of game that want to play that kind of game that want to play that kind of game that sometimes is worth it where you're like sometimes is worth it where you're like sometimes is worth it where you're like you know what the only way for my church you know what the only way for my church you know what the only way for my church and me to get a big following is to go and me to get a big following is to go and me to get a big following is to go hard on one of these new platforms and hard on one of these new platforms and hard on one of these new platforms and I'm going to choose to go hard on I'm going to choose to go hard on I'm going to choose to go hard on threads and that's definitely something threads and that's definitely something threads and that's definitely something that I would support most churches are that I would support most churches are that I would support most churches are like no I'm just kind of fine doing what like no I'm just kind of fine doing what like no I'm just kind of fine doing what we're doing great but if you're really we're doing great but if you're really we're doing great but if you're really eager you can try that just know that eager you can try that just know that eager you can try that just know that you're likely playing a losing game you're likely playing a losing game you're likely playing a losing game where you're gonna you know you'll make where you're gonna you know you'll make where you're gonna you know you'll make that Gamble and it'll likely fizzle out that Gamble and it'll likely fizzle out that Gamble and it'll likely fizzle out but that might be the most but that might be the most but that might be the most realistic chance that you do develop a realistic chance that you do develop a realistic chance that you do develop a big following that you can then Port big following that you can then Port big following that you can then Port over to other platforms threads is weird over to other platforms threads is weird over to other platforms threads is weird for me because on Instagram I'm a coffee for me because on Instagram I'm a coffee for me because on Instagram I'm a coffee blogger and that's like that's it that's blogger and that's like that's it that's blogger and that's like that's it that's who that's how I present to the world who that's how I present to the world who that's how I present to the world and Twitter you're a pacifistic

and Twitter you're a pacifistic and Twitter you're a pacifistic theologian on Twitter is like the rest theologian on Twitter is like the rest theologian on Twitter is like the rest of me and so when I got on on threads of me and so when I got on on threads of me and so when I got on on threads I'm like well I have my audience who I'm like well I have my audience who I'm like well I have my audience who knows me for coffee but the content is knows me for coffee but the content is knows me for coffee but the content is like Twitter like Twitter like Twitter who am I going to be so so far I'm I'm who am I going to be so so far I'm I'm who am I going to be so so far I'm I'm trying to marry the two we'll see how trying to marry the two we'll see how trying to marry the two we'll see how that goes but you can follow us on that goes but you can follow us on that goes but you can follow us on threads we're there threads we're there threads we're there next question uh love the new podcast next question uh love the new podcast next question uh love the new podcast Studio thank you can you talk about the Studio thank you can you talk about the Studio thank you can you talk about the setup yeah so I am a huge fan of like setup yeah so I am a huge fan of like setup yeah so I am a huge fan of like the clean white look when the pandemic the clean white look when the pandemic the clean white look when the pandemic was happening and the studio was set up was happening and the studio was set up was happening and the studio was set up in my guest bedroom kind of created that in my guest bedroom kind of created that in my guest bedroom kind of created that Queen a clean white look and we wanted Queen a clean white look and we wanted Queen a clean white look and we wanted to do something similar with the podcast to do something similar with the podcast to do something similar with the podcast a lot of kind of traditional YouTube a lot of kind of traditional YouTube a lot of kind of traditional YouTube setups are uh single light dark highly setups are uh single light dark highly setups are uh single light dark highly contrasty lots of Shadow and like an LED contrasty lots of Shadow and like an LED contrasty lots of Shadow and like an LED light behind you which is funny because light behind you which is funny because light behind you which is funny because if you walk out that door into the rest if you walk out that door into the rest if you walk out that door into the rest of our open Office Space that is of our open Office Space that is of our open Office Space that is definitely the vibe like dark Navy walls definitely the vibe like dark Navy walls definitely the vibe like dark Navy walls exposed metal beams there's some exposed exposed metal beams there's some exposed exposed metal beams there's some exposed brick it's got that like modern brick it's got that like modern brick it's got that like modern industrial look which is nice but it's industrial look which is nice but it's industrial look which is nice but it's not this precisely so where did this not this precisely so where did this not this precisely so where did this inspiration come from this is kind of inspiration come from this is kind of inspiration come from this is kind of like concrete and beige a little bit of like concrete and beige a little bit of like concrete and beige a little bit of Tulum maybe some Mediterranean you know Tulum maybe some Mediterranean you know Tulum maybe some Mediterranean you know Decor inspiration I'm told the Decor inspiration I'm told the Decor inspiration I'm told the Kardashians homes are a very beigey okay Kardashians homes are a very beigey okay Kardashians homes are a very beigey okay like concrete okay interesting my like concrete okay interesting my like concrete okay interesting my friends are like watch the Kardashians friends are like watch the Kardashians friends are like watch the Kardashians the new version on Disney plus it's the new version on Disney plus it's the new version on Disney plus it's better they're in control they're the better they're in control they're the better they're in control they're the producers so we haven't watched it yet producers so we haven't watched it yet producers so we haven't watched it yet Silo yeah yes Silo's over now yes hey Silo yeah yes Silo's over now yes hey Silo yeah yes Silo's over now yes hey season two yeah uh so we spec this all

season two yeah uh so we spec this all season two yeah uh so we spec this all out out out and the thing that we knew we were going and the thing that we knew we were going and the thing that we knew we were going to have to to have is a lot of lights so to have to to have is a lot of lights so to have to to have is a lot of lights so there are a total of seven lights in there are a total of seven lights in there are a total of seven lights in this studio uh right now there's a key this studio uh right now there's a key this studio uh right now there's a key light on each of us uh uh aputure 120d light on each of us uh uh aputure 120d light on each of us uh uh aputure 120d we also have lighting the backdrops here we also have lighting the backdrops here we also have lighting the backdrops here uh a pair of also apertures these are uh a pair of also apertures these are uh a pair of also apertures these are the f21x so there's one uh behind Alex a the f21x so there's one uh behind Alex a the f21x so there's one uh behind Alex a bit one behind me a bit kind of facing bit one behind me a bit kind of facing bit one behind me a bit kind of facing the wall to increase that ambient the wall to increase that ambient the wall to increase that ambient lighting and then there are a pair of lighting and then there are a pair of lighting and then there are a pair of hair lights for each of us the aputure hair lights for each of us the aputure hair lights for each of us the aputure p60 X and then finally there's one more p60 X and then finally there's one more p60 X and then finally there's one more we are we gonna talk about it uh maybe we are we gonna talk about it uh maybe we are we gonna talk about it uh maybe you should I'll tell them it's an you should I'll tell them it's an you should I'll tell them it's an aputure 600D that we bought during the aputure 600D that we bought during the aputure 600D that we bought during the pandemic because I was like we're gonna pandemic because I was like we're gonna pandemic because I was like we're gonna become experts in lighting and then we become experts in lighting and then we become experts in lighting and then we literally never used it it's one of the literally never used it it's one of the literally never used it it's one of the most powerful like LED lights that most powerful like LED lights that most powerful like LED lights that exists typically you would need a exists typically you would need a exists typically you would need a different type of light to get this type different type of light to get this type different type of light to get this type of power but aperture kind of the of power but aperture kind of the of power but aperture kind of the leaders in this so it's a 600D we have a leaders in this so it's a 600D we have a leaders in this so it's a 600D we have a spotlight Mount attached to it and then spotlight Mount attached to it and then spotlight Mount attached to it and then a gobo to create this light effect it's a gobo to create this light effect it's a gobo to create this light effect it's kind of like this churchy window Gobo kind of like this churchy window Gobo kind of like this churchy window Gobo that we have attached and uh Alexander that we have attached and uh Alexander that we have attached and uh Alexander was the one that kind of set this all up was the one that kind of set this all up was the one that kind of set this all up so listen I didn't know know if we were so listen I didn't know know if we were so listen I didn't know know if we were going to pull back the proverbial going to pull back the proverbial going to pull back the proverbial curtain I'll uh I'll actually take some curtain I'll uh I'll actually take some curtain I'll uh I'll actually take some clips with my iPhone and put them up on clips with my iPhone and put them up on clips with my iPhone and put them up on the screen here so you can you can see the screen here so you can you can see the screen here so you can you can see what we're working with but this is in what we're working with but this is in what we're working with but this is in fact not a window it looks like a window fact not a window it looks like a window fact not a window it looks like a window but it is not this is a room with four but it is not this is a room with four but it is not this is a room with four walls It's actually an awfully little walls It's actually an awfully little walls It's actually an awfully little room the studio that we've made here room the studio that we've made here room the studio that we've made here makes this room appear a lot bigger than

makes this room appear a lot bigger than makes this room appear a lot bigger than it actually is this is when you want to it actually is this is when you want to it actually is this is when you want to watch the video version of the show so watch the video version of the show so watch the video version of the show so you can see all the behind the scenes you can see all the behind the scenes you can see all the behind the scenes yes and this yes and this yes and this aperture aperture aperture 600D is ginormous the original plan was 600D is ginormous the original plan was 600D is ginormous the original plan was to mount it from the ceiling and you to mount it from the ceiling and you to mount it from the ceiling and you were away when I was setting up this were away when I was setting up this were away when I was setting up this studio you were in Portugal I believe studio you were in Portugal I believe studio you were in Portugal I believe and I kind of had to make an executive and I kind of had to make an executive and I kind of had to make an executive decision I thought to myself am I going decision I thought to myself am I going decision I thought to myself am I going to try and hang this thing from the to try and hang this thing from the to try and hang this thing from the ceiling or am I just gonna go the safe ceiling or am I just gonna go the safe ceiling or am I just gonna go the safe route and put it on a c-stand so I put route and put it on a c-stand so I put route and put it on a c-stand so I put it on a c-stand it fits this is the it on a c-stand it fits this is the it on a c-stand it fits this is the biggest light I've ever held and biggest light I've ever held and biggest light I've ever held and especially with this kind of uh especially with this kind of uh especially with this kind of uh gargantuan gargantuan gargantuan um Studio like um a spotlight extension um Studio like um a spotlight extension um Studio like um a spotlight extension to create this effect so there are some to create this effect so there are some to create this effect so there are some gobos like you mentioned that we we gobos like you mentioned that we we gobos like you mentioned that we we slide into the spotlight how would you slide into the spotlight how would you slide into the spotlight how would you describe a gobo for someone yeah it's describe a gobo for someone yeah it's describe a gobo for someone yeah it's this metal disc this little miniature this metal disc this little miniature this metal disc this little miniature cut out and it looks like a mini window cut out and it looks like a mini window cut out and it looks like a mini window and there are different designs we have and there are different designs we have and there are different designs we have um trees and we have different types of um trees and we have different types of um trees and we have different types of Shades and we went with an original Shades and we went with an original Shades and we went with an original shade that we just weren't loving the shade that we just weren't loving the shade that we just weren't loving the look of but then we had this kind of look of but then we had this kind of look of but then we had this kind of arched churchy type similar to the arch arched churchy type similar to the arch arched churchy type similar to the arch that's behind you that we added to the that's behind you that we added to the that's behind you that we added to the wall yes and to be honest when I was wall yes and to be honest when I was wall yes and to be honest when I was holding the Gobo I did not think it was holding the Gobo I did not think it was holding the Gobo I did not think it was going to look good and we put it in and going to look good and we put it in and going to look good and we put it in and we both fell in love with it it's like we both fell in love with it it's like we both fell in love with it it's like yes this is the vibe so this is a yes this is the vibe so this is a yes this is the vibe so this is a spotlight that has is so large I can spotlight that has is so large I can spotlight that has is so large I can hear the fan running from here you can't hear the fan running from here you can't hear the fan running from here you can't hear it on the mic but I can hear the hear it on the mic but I can hear the hear it on the mic but I can hear the fan running from here because it runs fan running from here because it runs fan running from here because it runs hot it's big it's uh counter balanced hot it's big it's uh counter balanced hot it's big it's uh counter balanced with sandbags on the ground because uh with sandbags on the ground because uh with sandbags on the ground because uh we we can't risk it falling over I did

we we can't risk it falling over I did we we can't risk it falling over I did Mount some of the lights to the ceiling Mount some of the lights to the ceiling Mount some of the lights to the ceiling but that one I could not because it was but that one I could not because it was but that one I could not because it was so large but we fit them all in here so large but we fit them all in here so large but we fit them all in here there's no airflow in this room no we there's no airflow in this room no we there's no airflow in this room no we haven't overheated yet we're In The Heat haven't overheated yet we're In The Heat haven't overheated yet we're In The Heat Of Summer right now we haven't Of Summer right now we haven't Of Summer right now we haven't overheated yet if we can survive now yes overheated yet if we can survive now yes overheated yet if we can survive now yes yeah but uh I'm really really happy with yeah but uh I'm really really happy with yeah but uh I'm really really happy with the way the studio build the way the studio build the way the studio build um Turned out we did all the work um Turned out we did all the work um Turned out we did all the work in-house Kyle uh my desk mate helped in-house Kyle uh my desk mate helped in-house Kyle uh my desk mate helped with some drywall and him and I put up with some drywall and him and I put up with some drywall and him and I put up this wallpaper together that we can talk this wallpaper together that we can talk this wallpaper together that we can talk about in a moment about in a moment about in a moment um I set up all this decor and we spent um I set up all this decor and we spent um I set up all this decor and we spent a couple weeks doing some test footage a couple weeks doing some test footage a couple weeks doing some test footage and moving some stuff around an inch and moving some stuff around an inch and moving some stuff around an inch here an inch there and I think we're here an inch there and I think we're here an inch there and I think we're really happy with with the way it turned really happy with with the way it turned really happy with with the way it turned out and I'm glad people love it too yeah out and I'm glad people love it too yeah out and I'm glad people love it too yeah we we completed the construction we we completed the construction we we completed the construction ourselves which felt like a big win for ourselves which felt like a big win for ourselves which felt like a big win for us and we completed Alex like did he us and we completed Alex like did he us and we completed Alex like did he like configured all of the the gear and like configured all of the the gear and like configured all of the the gear and so we have this lime wash wallpaper uh so we have this lime wash wallpaper uh so we have this lime wash wallpaper uh we we had to paint over and then fix we we had to paint over and then fix we we had to paint over and then fix some of the drywall like that was all some of the drywall like that was all some of the drywall like that was all Kyle and then this is lime wash Kyle and then this is lime wash Kyle and then this is lime wash wallpaper from Etsy you know we've got wallpaper from Etsy you know we've got wallpaper from Etsy you know we've got some fake plants a lot of just you know some fake plants a lot of just you know some fake plants a lot of just you know again stuff from from Etsy or uh from again stuff from from Etsy or uh from again stuff from from Etsy or uh from Wayfair and Wayfair and Wayfair and uh we'll talk about the cameras too so uh we'll talk about the cameras too so uh we'll talk about the cameras too so three cameras uh three Sony's we've got three cameras uh three Sony's we've got three cameras uh three Sony's we've got an A1 which is the wide camera uh it's an A1 which is the wide camera uh it's an A1 which is the wide camera uh it's been giving us some trouble with its been giving us some trouble with its been giving us some trouble with its overheating issues which we think we overheating issues which we think we overheating issues which we think we fixed fixed fixed we'll see have we we're shooting at 8K we'll see have we we're shooting at 8K we'll see have we we're shooting at 8K on that one because that camera has a on that one because that camera has a on that one because that camera has a crop on phone okay yeah so because we crop on phone okay yeah so because we crop on phone okay yeah so because we didn't want to buy any new cameras but didn't want to buy any new cameras but didn't want to buy any new cameras but we only had three Sony so we got the fx3 we only had three Sony so we got the fx3 we only had three Sony so we got the fx3 and then the a7s3 that are on the

and then the a7s3 that are on the and then the a7s3 that are on the individual speaker which essentially individual speaker which essentially individual speaker which essentially internally are the same camera different internally are the same camera different internally are the same camera different body but sensor wise internals are body but sensor wise internals are body but sensor wise internals are identical the A1 is a bit different and identical the A1 is a bit different and identical the A1 is a bit different and you know we got this new table and we you know we got this new table and we you know we got this new table and we got these new chairs the stable is huge got these new chairs the stable is huge got these new chairs the stable is huge it weighs 250 pounds yeah yeah yeah and it weighs 250 pounds yeah yeah yeah and it weighs 250 pounds yeah yeah yeah and then we have the new carpet and you know then we have the new carpet and you know then we have the new carpet and you know the soundproofing is an excellent uh we the soundproofing is an excellent uh we the soundproofing is an excellent uh we used to have all these hanging packing used to have all these hanging packing used to have all these hanging packing blankets that were black in our darker blankets that were black in our darker blankets that were black in our darker setup but we can't we need the ambient setup but we can't we need the ambient setup but we can't we need the ambient light all the light needs to bounce light all the light needs to bounce light all the light needs to bounce anywhere that it can yeah and so you anywhere that it can yeah and so you anywhere that it can yeah and so you know that that's a bit of the setup sure know that that's a bit of the setup sure know that that's a bit of the setup sure SM 7B mics that we've always used sound SM 7B mics that we've always used sound SM 7B mics that we've always used sound devices uh audio device that we've devices uh audio device that we've devices uh audio device that we've always used same old same old yeah always used same old same old yeah always used same old same old yeah love it yeah I'm glad to be here for love it yeah I'm glad to be here for love it yeah I'm glad to be here for sure yeah happy it turned out I mean I'm sure yeah happy it turned out I mean I'm sure yeah happy it turned out I mean I'm I'm never really happy right so it was I'm never really happy right so it was I'm never really happy right so it was the first thing you said when you got the first thing you said when you got the first thing you said when you got back from your trip you're like yeah if back from your trip you're like yeah if back from your trip you're like yeah if I could do it all over again I was like I could do it all over again I was like I could do it all over again I was like oh my God I was with Brett yesterday and oh my God I was with Brett yesterday and oh my God I was with Brett yesterday and we're hanging out one of our pastor we're hanging out one of our pastor we're hanging out one of our pastor friends the man that introduced us friends the man that introduced us friends the man that introduced us actually and he's and he was like he was actually and he's and he was like he was actually and he's and he was like he was in town he's like oh so what do you in town he's like oh so what do you in town he's like oh so what do you think of these Studios he's like I love think of these Studios he's like I love think of these Studios he's like I love it and I was like yeah it and I was like yeah it and I was like yeah and then he was like well what's wrong and then he was like well what's wrong and then he was like well what's wrong with it and I was like with it and I was like with it and I was like nothing this is what's the problem he's nothing this is what's the problem he's nothing this is what's the problem he's like you know the problem me I'm the like you know the problem me I'm the like you know the problem me I'm the problem I'm the drama it's me I yeah so problem I'm the drama it's me I yeah so problem I'm the drama it's me I yeah so I've I've come to the place where I have I've I've come to the place where I have I've I've come to the place where I have to keep reminding myself you know like to keep reminding myself you know like to keep reminding myself you know like nobody cares but you and at the end of nobody cares but you and at the end of nobody cares but you and at the end of the day you are not an artist like your the day you are not an artist like your the day you are not an artist like your ultimate role in this company and in ultimate role in this company and in ultimate role in this company and in life is not artists so you can tweak

life is not artists so you can tweak life is not artists so you can tweak everything until you die which is what everything until you die which is what everything until you die which is what an artist understandably does if you're an artist understandably does if you're an artist understandably does if you're not a filmmaker okay you have certain not a filmmaker okay you have certain not a filmmaker okay you have certain goals and priorities in this company and goals and priorities in this company and goals and priorities in this company and you are holding those goals back because you are holding those goals back because you are holding those goals back because you are an idiot you are an idiot you are an idiot so I had to come to terms with that and so I had to come to terms with that and so I had to come to terms with that and that is something I've been coming to that is something I've been coming to that is something I've been coming to terms with over the last five years I terms with over the last five years I terms with over the last five years I think every creative person at some think every creative person at some think every creative person at some at some level struggles with that and at some level struggles with that and at some level struggles with that and you have to just be like hey this is you have to just be like hey this is you have to just be like hey this is good enough yeah and and good enough good enough yeah and and good enough good enough yeah and and good enough doesn't mean you've compromised sure doesn't mean you've compromised sure doesn't mean you've compromised sure everyone else thinks it's great good everyone else thinks it's great good everyone else thinks it's great good enough means you acknowledge that you enough means you acknowledge that you enough means you acknowledge that you have serious issues and you need to move have serious issues and you need to move have serious issues and you need to move on on on um this studio is like being a worship um this studio is like being a worship um this studio is like being a worship leader like you know you fall in love leader like you know you fall in love leader like you know you fall in love with a song as a worship leader you with a song as a worship leader you with a song as a worship leader you rehearse it with your team you get ready rehearse it with your team you get ready rehearse it with your team you get ready to introduce it to your church and by to introduce it to your church and by to introduce it to your church and by the time your church is really like the time your church is really like the time your church is really like coming to enjoy it get get a hold of it coming to enjoy it get get a hold of it coming to enjoy it get get a hold of it is the time that you are just absolutely is the time that you are just absolutely is the time that you are just absolutely sick of it ah so that's what this studio sick of it ah so that's what this studio sick of it ah so that's what this studio is and we're not sick of it but like is and we're not sick of it but like is and we're not sick of it but like it's we've been working on it for a long it's we've been working on it for a long it's we've been working on it for a long time but this is just the second time time but this is just the second time time but this is just the second time that it's been on YouTube so yeah that it's been on YouTube so yeah that it's been on YouTube so yeah everyone else still loves it and we're everyone else still loves it and we're everyone else still loves it and we're thinking about what we'll do next what's thinking about what we'll do next what's thinking about what we'll do next what's the next song the next song the next song please send out how about the next please send out how about the next please send out how about the next question uh third question on today's question uh third question on today's question uh third question on today's show on the social media Church podcast show on the social media Church podcast show on the social media Church podcast this week they talked about developing this week they talked about developing this week they talked about developing an AI policy similar to how you should an AI policy similar to how you should an AI policy similar to how you should have a social media policy is that have a social media policy is that have a social media policy is that something that you've processed at all something that you've processed at all something that you've processed at all yet if so what would you include in a yet if so what would you include in a yet if so what would you include in a policy like that policy like that policy like that yeah so developing an AI policy for your yeah so developing an AI policy for your yeah so developing an AI policy for your church really two things come to mind church really two things come to mind church really two things come to mind for me the first is why are we using AI

for me the first is why are we using AI for me the first is why are we using AI you need to articulate this for yourself you need to articulate this for yourself you need to articulate this for yourself and for your team my definition that you and for your team my definition that you and for your team my definition that you can use for sure is AI can be a useful can use for sure is AI can be a useful can use for sure is AI can be a useful shortcut yeah that is the way that I shortcut yeah that is the way that I shortcut yeah that is the way that I would Define my reason for using it and would Define my reason for using it and would Define my reason for using it and then second what are the boundaries for then second what are the boundaries for then second what are the boundaries for AI uh we will not use AI as our AI uh we will not use AI as our AI uh we will not use AI as our exclusive Source it's kind of my exclusive Source it's kind of my exclusive Source it's kind of my definition for that so the two reasons definition for that so the two reasons definition for that so the two reasons we're using or the two to two stanzas in we're using or the two to two stanzas in we're using or the two to two stanzas in the policy why are we using Ai and what the policy why are we using Ai and what the policy why are we using Ai and what are the boundaries for it let's walk are the boundaries for it let's walk are the boundaries for it let's walk through some examples of this so example through some examples of this so example through some examples of this so example number one this was from last week's number one this was from last week's number one this was from last week's episode our headshots have a black bar episode our headshots have a black bar episode our headshots have a black bar around them AI can eliminate that and around them AI can eliminate that and around them AI can eliminate that and fill out that negative space using fill out that negative space using fill out that negative space using generative fill so does that abide by generative fill so does that abide by generative fill so does that abide by our two stanzas in the policy a useful our two stanzas in the policy a useful our two stanzas in the policy a useful shortcut yes what else could we do well shortcut yes what else could we do well shortcut yes what else could we do well we could go out we could go out we could go out and we could shoot new images where like and we could shoot new images where like and we could shoot new images where like the center is identical but that way we the center is identical but that way we the center is identical but that way we shoot it wide enough where the exterior shoot it wide enough where the exterior shoot it wide enough where the exterior is filled in what are the boundaries we is filled in what are the boundaries we is filled in what are the boundaries we will not use AI as our exclusive Source will not use AI as our exclusive Source will not use AI as our exclusive Source well like the person in the center of well like the person in the center of well like the person in the center of the photo is not changing at all we're the photo is not changing at all we're the photo is not changing at all we're just filling in the Blurred out just filling in the Blurred out just filling in the Blurred out background around it so that abides by background around it so that abides by background around it so that abides by those two things okay good to go example those two things okay good to go example those two things okay good to go example number two we want to write a number two we want to write a number two we want to write a description for the about us page on the description for the about us page on the description for the about us page on the Church website so you input into the AI Church website so you input into the AI Church website so you input into the AI generator you know Legacy church is a generator you know Legacy church is a generator you know Legacy church is a church in Minneapolis Minnesota we are church in Minneapolis Minnesota we are church in Minneapolis Minnesota we are dedicated to seeing young families dedicated to seeing young families dedicated to seeing young families flourish and connect to Jesus in their flourish and connect to Jesus in their flourish and connect to Jesus in their community and then AI is going to write community and then AI is going to write community and then AI is going to write a description for your about us page a description for your about us page a description for your about us page that uses that as the source and expound that uses that as the source and expound that uses that as the source and expound upon it so it's a helpful shortcut could

upon it so it's a helpful shortcut could upon it so it's a helpful shortcut could you write it yourself sure and then the you write it yourself sure and then the you write it yourself sure and then the second thing is second thing is second thing is it's not the exclusive Source I gave it it's not the exclusive Source I gave it it's not the exclusive Source I gave it the instruction and like the foundation the instruction and like the foundation the instruction and like the foundation and it's just kind of like doing some and it's just kind of like doing some and it's just kind of like doing some alliteration and some expounding upon alliteration and some expounding upon alliteration and some expounding upon that okay that okay that okay example number three example number three example number three I'm writing a sermon and so I go to Ai I'm writing a sermon and so I go to Ai I'm writing a sermon and so I go to Ai and I go okay AI like what does the Book and I go okay AI like what does the Book and I go okay AI like what does the Book of James say about mercy and can you of James say about mercy and can you of James say about mercy and can you have citations for that have citations for that have citations for that does that pass this test it doesn't is does that pass this test it doesn't is does that pass this test it doesn't is it a useful shortcut yes I could do that it a useful shortcut yes I could do that it a useful shortcut yes I could do that myself but alone I'm now relying on it myself but alone I'm now relying on it myself but alone I'm now relying on it to be the exclusive Source yes it's to be the exclusive Source yes it's to be the exclusive Source yes it's citing presumably from the book of James citing presumably from the book of James citing presumably from the book of James but unless I cross-reference what it's but unless I cross-reference what it's but unless I cross-reference what it's claiming to do with something else I claiming to do with something else I claiming to do with something else I can't be certain and Alex why can I not can't be certain and Alex why can I not can't be certain and Alex why can I not be certain be certain be certain because Chad gbt is a liar and I didn't because Chad gbt is a liar and I didn't because Chad gbt is a liar and I didn't know this until recently so I've used know this until recently so I've used know this until recently so I've used chatgpt in the exact same way actually chatgpt in the exact same way actually chatgpt in the exact same way actually to generate some social content uh tell to generate some social content uh tell to generate some social content uh tell me three things Jesus said about being me three things Jesus said about being me three things Jesus said about being rich or whatever and it'll spit out some rich or whatever and it'll spit out some rich or whatever and it'll spit out some scripture references and because Chachi scripture references and because Chachi scripture references and because Chachi PT as far as I understood it and I've PT as far as I understood it and I've PT as far as I understood it and I've learned that I don't understand chat GPT learned that I don't understand chat GPT learned that I don't understand chat GPT at all As I understood it it's just like at all As I understood it it's just like at all As I understood it it's just like scouring Google or like publicly scouring Google or like publicly scouring Google or like publicly available information like it would be available information like it would be available information like it would be hard to to screw up a reference like hard to to screw up a reference like hard to to screw up a reference like that so I put my Blind Faith there's a that so I put my Blind Faith there's a that so I put my Blind Faith there's a sermon illustration in here somewhere my sermon illustration in here somewhere my sermon illustration in here somewhere my blind faith my blind trust into Chachi blind faith my blind trust into Chachi blind faith my blind trust into Chachi ft sure this is what Jesus says about ft sure this is what Jesus says about ft sure this is what Jesus says about being rich but I've recently learned being rich but I've recently learned being rich but I've recently learned that chat gbt has the tendency to make that chat gbt has the tendency to make that chat gbt has the tendency to make things up and you can prove this by

things up and you can prove this by things up and you can prove this by going to Chachi BT and say hey can you going to Chachi BT and say hey can you going to Chachi BT and say hey can you tell me give me a quote by Tolkien about tell me give me a quote by Tolkien about tell me give me a quote by Tolkien about blank and it'll spit out a quote by blank and it'll spit out a quote by blank and it'll spit out a quote by Tolkien about whatever you input and Tolkien about whatever you input and Tolkien about whatever you input and sometimes if you do the bother to sometimes if you do the bother to sometimes if you do the bother to cross-reference that with Google or your cross-reference that with Google or your cross-reference that with Google or your search engine of Choice by you know search engine of Choice by you know search engine of Choice by you know copying and pasting the quote and copying and pasting the quote and copying and pasting the quote and putting it in you might find that putting it in you might find that putting it in you might find that chatgpt has either paraphrite paraphrase chatgpt has either paraphrite paraphrase chatgpt has either paraphrite paraphrase something Tolkien has said at best or at something Tolkien has said at best or at something Tolkien has said at best or at worst completely fabricated a quote by worst completely fabricated a quote by worst completely fabricated a quote by Tolkien it is not doing this once or Tolkien it is not doing this once or Tolkien it is not doing this once or twice it is repeatingly repeatedly doing twice it is repeatingly repeatedly doing twice it is repeatingly repeatedly doing this to the point where and you can find this to the point where and you can find this to the point where and you can find this story on Google some where a lawyer this story on Google some where a lawyer this story on Google some where a lawyer has recently gotten into some hot water has recently gotten into some hot water has recently gotten into some hot water because he used chat gbt in his because he used chat gbt in his because he used chat gbt in his Discovery portion to cite some cases in Discovery portion to cite some cases in Discovery portion to cite some cases in a case that he was working on and he got a case that he was working on and he got a case that he was working on and he got found out because all of the citations found out because all of the citations found out because all of the citations that Chachi BT he gave him that he then that Chachi BT he gave him that he then that Chachi BT he gave him that he then included in his case proved to be included in his case proved to be included in his case proved to be unfactual and to the point where they unfactual and to the point where they unfactual and to the point where they didn't even exist this was on BBC didn't even exist this was on BBC didn't even exist this was on BBC Gizmodo and The Verge just looking it up Gizmodo and The Verge just looking it up Gizmodo and The Verge just looking it up so you can if you type in chat gbt lying so you can if you type in chat gbt lying so you can if you type in chat gbt lying lawyer you'll find it so I thought I was lawyer you'll find it so I thought I was lawyer you'll find it so I thought I was at the assumption that Chad gbt deserved at the assumption that Chad gbt deserved at the assumption that Chad gbt deserved my allegiance my entire faith my entire my allegiance my entire faith my entire my allegiance my entire faith my entire trust and that just proves to be not trust and that just proves to be not trust and that just proves to be not true so to the point in your policy it's true so to the point in your policy it's true so to the point in your policy it's imperative to have imperative to have imperative to have AI cannot be your exclusive Source AI cannot be your exclusive Source AI cannot be your exclusive Source because even in even in the case of because even in even in the case of because even in even in the case of asking chat GPT to do some research for asking chat GPT to do some research for asking chat GPT to do some research for you to to give you some sources it's you to to give you some sources it's you to to give you some sources it's imperative that you cross-reference

imperative that you cross-reference imperative that you cross-reference those with the internet to prove that those with the internet to prove that those with the internet to prove that they are in fact real citations and in they are in fact real citations and in they are in fact real citations and in the example of it writing website copy the example of it writing website copy the example of it writing website copy for you if it expounds upon the for you if it expounds upon the for you if it expounds upon the description of your church that you've description of your church that you've description of your church that you've provided and it says some things that provided and it says some things that provided and it says some things that aren't truly oh and we have a ton of aren't truly oh and we have a ton of aren't truly oh and we have a ton of Sunday services and we also do like Sunday services and we also do like Sunday services and we also do like courses throughout the week we don't do courses throughout the week we don't do courses throughout the week we don't do courses throughout the week you would courses throughout the week you would courses throughout the week you would just not include that when you're doing just not include that when you're doing just not include that when you're doing it with the research that can be a it with the research that can be a it with the research that can be a little bit more precarious because you little bit more precarious because you little bit more precarious because you are not the ultimate Authority on all are not the ultimate Authority on all are not the ultimate Authority on all things yeah so wow although I thought I things yeah so wow although I thought I things yeah so wow although I thought I was when I first met GPT I thought you was when I first met GPT I thought you was when I first met GPT I thought you are the authority on on all things in are the authority on on all things in are the authority on on all things in fact I have the chat GPT app on my phone fact I have the chat GPT app on my phone fact I have the chat GPT app on my phone I have GPT yes and I've been using it I have GPT yes and I've been using it I have GPT yes and I've been using it just to do some shortcutting for me I just to do some shortcutting for me I just to do some shortcutting for me I was looking for flights hey can you find was looking for flights hey can you find was looking for flights hey can you find the cheapest route from A to B on these the cheapest route from A to B on these the cheapest route from A to B on these dates blah blah blah and it's served to dates blah blah blah and it's served to dates blah blah blah and it's served to be pretty helpful but we've had a be pretty helpful but we've had a be pretty helpful but we've had a fracture in our relationship and yeah fracture in our relationship and yeah fracture in our relationship and yeah well especially after it served you well especially after it served you well especially after it served you those flights that were like eighty five those flights that were like eighty five those flights that were like eighty five dollars on flight gbt and you were like dollars on flight gbt and you were like dollars on flight gbt and you were like that's not a real airlock actually for that's not a real airlock actually for that's not a real airlock actually for that it gave me the result I was looking that it gave me the result I was looking that it gave me the result I was looking for okay for okay for okay um but yeah we've had as far as true and um but yeah we've had as far as true and um but yeah we've had as far as true and we're taking some space right now yeah we're taking some space right now yeah we're taking some space right now yeah me and Chachi PT yeah I think that's the me and Chachi PT yeah I think that's the me and Chachi PT yeah I think that's the right thing to do yeah just consider right thing to do yeah just consider right thing to do yeah just consider those two things there's so much more those two things there's so much more those two things there's so much more you could add on the policy front sure you could add on the policy front sure you could add on the policy front sure but why are we using it what are the but why are we using it what are the but why are we using it what are the boundaries yeah and I think you should boundaries yeah and I think you should boundaries yeah and I think you should use it and you should have those use it and you should have those use it and you should have those boundaries fourth and final question on boundaries fourth and final question on boundaries fourth and final question on today's show Brady you have mentioned today's show Brady you have mentioned today's show Brady you have mentioned that you're breaking into the World of that you're breaking into the World of that you're breaking into the World of Watches uh this questionnaire says happy Watches uh this questionnaire says happy Watches uh this questionnaire says happy dance so it seems like there are there dance so it seems like there are there dance so it seems like there are there are watch where as well I was skeptical are watch where as well I was skeptical are watch where as well I was skeptical of you until you mentioned the wolf 1834

of you until you mentioned the wolf 1834 of you until you mentioned the wolf 1834 watch case heart eyes emoji what are you watch case heart eyes emoji what are you watch case heart eyes emoji what are you looking at watch wise and have you made looking at watch wise and have you made looking at watch wise and have you made any purchases yeah so it seems like me any purchases yeah so it seems like me any purchases yeah so it seems like me referencing the watch case that I bought referencing the watch case that I bought referencing the watch case that I bought has somehow you got street cred provided has somehow you got street cred provided has somehow you got street cred provided credibility to the voices that I'm credibility to the voices that I'm credibility to the voices that I'm listening to as I begin my journey into listening to as I begin my journey into listening to as I begin my journey into timepieces yes so if you want to see the timepieces yes so if you want to see the timepieces yes so if you want to see the watch 1834 case we'll put it on the watch 1834 case we'll put it on the watch 1834 case we'll put it on the screen this is in the British racing screen this is in the British racing screen this is in the British racing color green and there are 10 spots for color green and there are 10 spots for color green and there are 10 spots for watches and then there's a little drawer watches and then there's a little drawer watches and then there's a little drawer so I keep my measuring tape in there I so I keep my measuring tape in there I so I keep my measuring tape in there I have a ring that I wear that goes in have a ring that I wear that goes in have a ring that I wear that goes in there my you know polishing there my you know polishing there my you know polishing um little little cloth and some my spare um little little cloth and some my spare um little little cloth and some my spare links from the watches that I have they links from the watches that I have they links from the watches that I have they all kind of go in there so uh why all kind of go in there so uh why all kind of go in there so uh why watches watches watches similar to all the time that's right you similar to all the time that's right you similar to all the time that's right you know what I had a great that was my know what I had a great that was my know what I had a great that was my issue yeah it just didn't I routinely issue yeah it just didn't I routinely issue yeah it just didn't I routinely didn't know what time it was so I I kind didn't know what time it was so I I kind didn't know what time it was so I I kind of think of watches like similar to of think of watches like similar to of think of watches like similar to tattoos so it's like they Mark something tattoos so it's like they Mark something tattoos so it's like they Mark something special and they're always with you yeah special and they're always with you yeah special and they're always with you yeah and you know as someone that really does and you know as someone that really does and you know as someone that really does enjoy like fashion and style uh there enjoy like fashion and style uh there enjoy like fashion and style uh there are certain items that you like but you are certain items that you like but you are certain items that you like but you just you can only wear so often it's just you can only wear so often it's just you can only wear so often it's like I'm wearing a pair of trousers like I'm wearing a pair of trousers like I'm wearing a pair of trousers today that I've wanted to wear for a today that I've wanted to wear for a today that I've wanted to wear for a while I just don't wear trousers that while I just don't wear trousers that while I just don't wear trousers that often and it's been warm and so like I often and it's been warm and so like I often and it's been warm and so like I tried them on and I like them what's tried them on and I like them what's tried them on and I like them what's really cool about watches is like you really cool about watches is like you really cool about watches is like you always wear them they're with you all always wear them they're with you all always wear them they're with you all the time and so they kind of become like the time and so they kind of become like the time and so they kind of become like this part of you and when I was getting this part of you and when I was getting this part of you and when I was getting into watches one of the first things into watches one of the first things into watches one of the first things that I did before I started purchasing that I did before I started purchasing that I did before I started purchasing before I started saying I'm committed to before I started saying I'm committed to before I started saying I'm committed to this is I bought this book called a man this is I bought this book called a man this is I bought this book called a man and his watch and it's this collection and his watch and it's this collection and his watch and it's this collection beautifully photograph photographed of beautifully photograph photographed of beautifully photograph photographed of stories of men throughout history the

stories of men throughout history the stories of men throughout history the watches that they owned and why those watches that they owned and why those watches that they owned and why those watches were special to them and how watches were special to them and how watches were special to them and how they came across it because I was like they came across it because I was like they came across it because I was like okay I'm not just doing this for like oh okay I'm not just doing this for like oh okay I'm not just doing this for like oh cool watches you know like status this cool watches you know like status this cool watches you know like status this it's like no I want to understand like it's like no I want to understand like it's like no I want to understand like why is this so important and and because why is this so important and and because why is this so important and and because I wasn't raised with the father that I wasn't raised with the father that I wasn't raised with the father that cared about this sort of thing there's cared about this sort of thing there's cared about this sort of thing there's no history in my family aside from maybe no history in my family aside from maybe no history in my family aside from maybe my grandfather who I've now spoken to my grandfather who I've now spoken to my grandfather who I've now spoken to about his watches and why they're about his watches and why they're about his watches and why they're important to him important to him important to him um so I kind of wanted to like um so I kind of wanted to like um so I kind of wanted to like understand that uh and I had gotten into understand that uh and I had gotten into understand that uh and I had gotten into watches a bit a few years ago you watches a bit a few years ago you watches a bit a few years ago you remember this perhaps remember this perhaps remember this perhaps and what I didn't realize was and what I didn't realize was and what I didn't realize was I would buy these watches that I thought I would buy these watches that I thought I would buy these watches that I thought were beautiful because they were and I'd were beautiful because they were and I'd were beautiful because they were and I'd get them in and I'd put them on my wrist get them in and I'd put them on my wrist get them in and I'd put them on my wrist and I'd be like it's just not right and I'd be like it's just not right and I'd be like it's just not right there's something wrong about this and there's something wrong about this and there's something wrong about this and what I realized was I was buying watches what I realized was I was buying watches what I realized was I was buying watches that were the very popular size for most that were the very popular size for most that were the very popular size for most men but at least in my eyes and based on men but at least in my eyes and based on men but at least in my eyes and based on my wrist size were too large so all of my wrist size were too large so all of my wrist size were too large so all of them were 40 millimeters or greater and them were 40 millimeters or greater and them were 40 millimeters or greater and I have smaller wrists uh 17 centimeters I have smaller wrists uh 17 centimeters I have smaller wrists uh 17 centimeters six and three quarters inches and so six and three quarters inches and so six and three quarters inches and so like the 40 41 42 millimeter watches like the 40 41 42 millimeter watches like the 40 41 42 millimeter watches which are the most popular were just which are the most popular were just which are the most popular were just like gaudy on me right I like the like gaudy on me right I like the like gaudy on me right I like the smaller slender things so what happened smaller slender things so what happened smaller slender things so what happened was you mentioned I was in Portugal not was you mentioned I was in Portugal not was you mentioned I was in Portugal not too long ago and so we were in Lisbon too long ago and so we were in Lisbon too long ago and so we were in Lisbon for one day before we flew home for one day before we flew home for one day before we flew home and we were walking down kind of the and we were walking down kind of the and we were walking down kind of the main shopping stretch in Lisbon and main shopping stretch in Lisbon and main shopping stretch in Lisbon and there was a Cartier on one side of the there was a Cartier on one side of the there was a Cartier on one side of the street and a Rolex on the other and the street and a Rolex on the other and the street and a Rolex on the other and the thing about watches is you can't thing about watches is you can't thing about watches is you can't actually buy them right they're like actually buy them right they're like actually buy them right they're like Hermes bags which thankfully my wife has Hermes bags which thankfully my wife has Hermes bags which thankfully my wife has no interest in where like you can go in

no interest in where like you can go in no interest in where like you can go in like can I buy this and I'm like they like can I buy this and I'm like they like can I buy this and I'm like they like laugh at you and so I didn't even like laugh at you and so I didn't even like laugh at you and so I didn't even want to go in these stores but I'm with want to go in these stores but I'm with want to go in these stores but I'm with my friend Justin and he's I'm the type my friend Justin and he's I'm the type my friend Justin and he's I'm the type that's like no we have to follow the that's like no we have to follow the that's like no we have to follow the rules this is the protocol and he was rules this is the protocol and he was rules this is the protocol and he was like just go in so I I try to open the like just go in so I I try to open the like just go in so I I try to open the Rolex door you gotta be careful though Rolex door you gotta be careful though Rolex door you gotta be careful though because you can't go into a Ferrari because you can't go into a Ferrari because you can't go into a Ferrari store wearing shorts you had to wearing store wearing shorts you had to wearing store wearing shorts you had to wearing pants see I didn't know that right or pants see I didn't know that right or pants see I didn't know that right or exactly so that would be a thing in a exactly so that would be a thing in a exactly so that would be a thing in a watch store it's like and I didn't bring watch store it's like and I didn't bring watch store it's like and I didn't bring nice clothes we were on a filming trip nice clothes we were on a filming trip nice clothes we were on a filming trip yes so like I so I go up to the Rolex yes so like I so I go up to the Rolex yes so like I so I go up to the Rolex store and I open the door no it's locked store and I open the door no it's locked store and I open the door no it's locked and I feel like such a bozo and my and I feel like such a bozo and my and I feel like such a bozo and my appointment only Alex is like maybe Alex appointment only Alex is like maybe Alex appointment only Alex is like maybe Alex Justin is like maybe it's closed yeah Justin is like maybe it's closed yeah Justin is like maybe it's closed yeah somebody we look up the hours are open somebody we look up the hours are open somebody we look up the hours are open and we're like oh no they just don't and we're like oh no they just don't and we're like oh no they just don't want they want me they just don't want want they want me they just don't want want they want me they just don't want you so so someone comes in you so so someone comes in you so so someone comes in and they let me in I'm like okay I'm and they let me in I'm like okay I'm and they let me in I'm like okay I'm good so I'm walking around I'm like good so I'm walking around I'm like good so I'm walking around I'm like What's the protocol I don't know what to What's the protocol I don't know what to What's the protocol I don't know what to do and so I'm just waiting for someone do and so I'm just waiting for someone do and so I'm just waiting for someone to catch my eye and this lady thank to catch my eye and this lady thank to catch my eye and this lady thank goodness she was very nice she's like goodness she was very nice she's like goodness she was very nice she's like hey how can I help you I was like well I hey how can I help you I was like well I hey how can I help you I was like well I I just want to try on a watch it doesn't I just want to try on a watch it doesn't I just want to try on a watch it doesn't matter what brand uh it doesn't matter matter what brand uh it doesn't matter matter what brand uh it doesn't matter what model it's like a 36 millimeter what model it's like a 36 millimeter what model it's like a 36 millimeter watch and she's like sure so she breaks watch and she's like sure so she breaks watch and she's like sure so she breaks out a 36 millimeter and I tried on my out a 36 millimeter and I tried on my out a 36 millimeter and I tried on my wrist and I'm like oh my gosh wrist and I'm like oh my gosh wrist and I'm like oh my gosh I don't dislike watches right I just had I don't dislike watches right I just had I don't dislike watches right I just had ones that were the wrong size right and ones that were the wrong size right and ones that were the wrong size right and it was like the perfect fit so then we it was like the perfect fit so then we it was like the perfect fit so then we go across the street to Cartier and go across the street to Cartier and go across the street to Cartier and there's a security guard at the door there's a security guard at the door there's a security guard at the door just like with Rolex and he goes it's by just like with Rolex and he goes it's by just like with Rolex and he goes it's by appointment only but I can get you and appointment only but I can get you and appointment only but I can get you and you just need to wait for a bit so we you just need to wait for a bit so we you just need to wait for a bit so we waited outside for about 10 minutes he waited outside for about 10 minutes he waited outside for about 10 minutes he welcomes me in I sit down with someone welcomes me in I sit down with someone welcomes me in I sit down with someone and I try on another smaller Watch the and I try on another smaller Watch the and I try on another smaller Watch the watch that I'm wearing right now watch that I'm wearing right now watch that I'm wearing right now actually actually actually and I go okay so I just need smaller and I go okay so I just need smaller and I go okay so I just need smaller watches so I don't make any purchases we

watches so I don't make any purchases we watches so I don't make any purchases we fly home and then I start researching fly home and then I start researching fly home and then I start researching and the first watch that I buy is a and the first watch that I buy is a and the first watch that I buy is a vintage Rolex datejust from 1975. it's a vintage Rolex datejust from 1975. it's a vintage Rolex datejust from 1975. it's a reference number one six zero three so reference number one six zero three so reference number one six zero three so it's a 36 millimeter watch I bought it it's a 36 millimeter watch I bought it it's a 36 millimeter watch I bought it on like the stockx marketplace for on like the stockx marketplace for on like the stockx marketplace for watches it's called Chrono 24 and it was watches it's called Chrono 24 and it was watches it's called Chrono 24 and it was from a Swiss dealer and so they send it from a Swiss dealer and so they send it from a Swiss dealer and so they send it out I got it like cheaper than it was out I got it like cheaper than it was out I got it like cheaper than it was cheaper than a lot of the other ones I cheaper than a lot of the other ones I cheaper than a lot of the other ones I was looking at same reference number oh was looking at same reference number oh was looking at same reference number oh great great condition pre-owned I wanted great great condition pre-owned I wanted great great condition pre-owned I wanted one from like 1975. I wanted my first one from like 1975. I wanted my first one from like 1975. I wanted my first watch to be like twice my age yeah so watch to be like twice my age yeah so watch to be like twice my age yeah so every time I put it on I was like hey every time I put it on I was like hey every time I put it on I was like hey you're young you're in business you have you're young you're in business you have you're young you're in business you have no idea what's ahead like things have no idea what's ahead like things have no idea what's ahead like things have come up during you know your come up during you know your come up during you know your professional and personal career they've professional and personal career they've professional and personal career they've been very difficult and just like this been very difficult and just like this been very difficult and just like this watch just keeps ticking you just keep watch just keeps ticking you just keep watch just keeps ticking you just keep going I was like wow like that's cool to going I was like wow like that's cool to going I was like wow like that's cool to wear something on myself a watch yeah wear something on myself a watch yeah wear something on myself a watch yeah yeah right so it's like wearing yeah right so it's like wearing yeah right so it's like wearing something on my wrist it's like that something on my wrist it's like that something on my wrist it's like that much older that's really cool so it much older that's really cool so it much older that's really cool so it arrives and the first thing that like arrives and the first thing that like arrives and the first thing that like tips me off is weird it's like they said tips me off is weird it's like they said tips me off is weird it's like they said it was going to come with the the box it was going to come with the the box it was going to come with the the box and when you're buying a watch it's like and when you're buying a watch it's like and when you're buying a watch it's like new pre-owned whatever and does it come new pre-owned whatever and does it come new pre-owned whatever and does it come with the box and the papers the older with the box and the papers the older with the box and the papers the older watch is the less likely it's going to watch is the less likely it's going to watch is the less likely it's going to come with that and it didn't really come with that and it didn't really come with that and it didn't really matter to me that it didn't come with matter to me that it didn't come with matter to me that it didn't come with the papers but I did want it to come the papers but I did want it to come the papers but I did want it to come with the box and that's what I thought with the box and that's what I thought with the box and that's what I thought was cool about this listing so I get it was cool about this listing so I get it was cool about this listing so I get it I open it up it's not the Rolex green I open it up it's not the Rolex green I open it up it's not the Rolex green box it was like the Swiss dealer's green box it was like the Swiss dealer's green box it was like the Swiss dealer's green box and I was like okay box and I was like okay box and I was like okay and then I so I reached out to them like and then I so I reached out to them like and then I so I reached out to them like hey it didn't come with the box and they hey it didn't come with the box and they hey it didn't come with the box and they were really apologetic and like oh I'm were really apologetic and like oh I'm were really apologetic and like oh I'm really sorry and and Chrono is different

really sorry and and Chrono is different really sorry and and Chrono is different from stockx so you buy a shoe on stockx from stockx so you buy a shoe on stockx from stockx so you buy a shoe on stockx they have to verify the shoe before they they have to verify the shoe before they they have to verify the shoe before they send it out they don't they can't really send it out they don't they can't really send it out they don't they can't really do that with watches because the only do that with watches because the only do that with watches because the only way to verify watch is really to open it way to verify watch is really to open it way to verify watch is really to open it up and so what they do is they only work up and so what they do is they only work up and so what they do is they only work with reputable dealers who like no weep with reputable dealers who like no weep with reputable dealers who like no weep it's like a real store and this is what it's like a real store and this is what it's like a real store and this is what we do and they check out the store they we do and they check out the store they we do and they check out the store they verify the store and then that dealer verify the store and then that dealer verify the store and then that dealer becomes verified sure if you're a becomes verified sure if you're a becomes verified sure if you're a private seller they're like hey good private seller they're like hey good private seller they're like hey good luck you can use it but if you get this luck you can use it but if you get this luck you can use it but if you get this watch and you got scammed that's tough watch and you got scammed that's tough watch and you got scammed that's tough but if it's through a dealer you're but if it's through a dealer you're but if it's through a dealer you're covered so I was like I wasn't too covered so I was like I wasn't too covered so I was like I wasn't too worried but I'm also this is my first worried but I'm also this is my first worried but I'm also this is my first it's my probably the biggest financial it's my probably the biggest financial it's my probably the biggest financial transaction I've ever spent that wasn't transaction I've ever spent that wasn't transaction I've ever spent that wasn't like on a house or a car yeah and it like on a house or a car yeah and it like on a house or a car yeah and it arrives and okay so I read them like hey arrives and okay so I read them like hey arrives and okay so I read them like hey message person sent out the wrong thing message person sent out the wrong thing message person sent out the wrong thing we'll send it a box tomorrow unboxing we'll send it a box tomorrow unboxing we'll send it a box tomorrow unboxing right okay so I put the watch on and right okay so I put the watch on and right okay so I put the watch on and it's too big it's fine uh as I expected it's too big it's fine uh as I expected it's too big it's fine uh as I expected so I take it to the local jeweler in so I take it to the local jeweler in so I take it to the local jeweler in Thorold Steadman's and they're very kind Thorold Steadman's and they're very kind Thorold Steadman's and they're very kind and they take out the the links and they and they take out the the links and they and they take out the the links and they put it on and at this point I've put it on and at this point I've put it on and at this point I've realized realized realized this watch does not keep time this watch does not keep time this watch does not keep time within a minute it is already like five within a minute it is already like five within a minute it is already like five seconds behind seconds behind seconds behind and so my analogy of like it just keeps and so my analogy of like it just keeps and so my analogy of like it just keeps ticking now oh my gosh yeah your life ticking now oh my gosh yeah your life ticking now oh my gosh yeah your life falls apart with it the thing is vintage falls apart with it the thing is vintage falls apart with it the thing is vintage watches they need to be serviced all watches they need to be serviced all watches they need to be serviced all watches need to be serviced every 10 watches need to be serviced every 10 watches need to be serviced every 10 years or so and so maybe this just years or so and so maybe this just years or so and so maybe this just hadn't been serviced it was in amazing hadn't been serviced it was in amazing hadn't been serviced it was in amazing condition like aesthetically it was just condition like aesthetically it was just condition like aesthetically it was just great so it didn't really bother me so I great so it didn't really bother me so I great so it didn't really bother me so I say to this watchmaker Steadman's like say to this watchmaker Steadman's like say to this watchmaker Steadman's like like can you work on this and like yeah like can you work on this and like yeah like can you work on this and like yeah absolutely so they take it back and absolutely so they take it back and absolutely so they take it back and they're like I just took it to the they're like I just took it to the they're like I just took it to the watchmaker and he says no Rolex really watchmaker and he says no Rolex really watchmaker and he says no Rolex really only lets Rolex deal with their watches only lets Rolex deal with their watches only lets Rolex deal with their watches so I was like okay so I was like okay so I was like okay so I make an appointment with Rolex so I make an appointment with Rolex so I make an appointment with Rolex there's like two into run

there's like two into run there's like two into run I drive there I drive there I drive there and I have an appointment this time they and I have an appointment this time they and I have an appointment this time they let me in they look at it and I get okay let me in they look at it and I get okay let me in they look at it and I get okay this is totally what a great watch good this is totally what a great watch good this is totally what a great watch good banter and they're like what's gonna banter and they're like what's gonna banter and they're like what's gonna happen is we're gonna take the watch him happen is we're gonna take the watch him happen is we're gonna take the watch him and within two weeks Rolex will send you and within two weeks Rolex will send you and within two weeks Rolex will send you back a quote and they told me what it back a quote and they told me what it back a quote and they told me what it was going to cost so like it's going to was going to cost so like it's going to was going to cost so like it's going to be a thousand dollars to fix this watch be a thousand dollars to fix this watch be a thousand dollars to fix this watch and I was like okay and I was like okay and I was like okay and they're like and then you'll just and they're like and then you'll just and they're like and then you'll just sign off on it and then within 12 weeks sign off on it and then within 12 weeks sign off on it and then within 12 weeks you'll get your watch and I was like you'll get your watch and I was like you'll get your watch and I was like dang like yeah I could have just I dang like yeah I could have just I dang like yeah I could have just I should have just paid like the thousand should have just paid like the thousand should have just paid like the thousand more for the other listings and then I more for the other listings and then I more for the other listings and then I just would have to watch right away and just would have to watch right away and just would have to watch right away and end up paying the same amount either way end up paying the same amount either way end up paying the same amount either way but I was worried I was like what if but I was worried I was like what if but I was worried I was like what if they open this up and they're like this they open this up and they're like this they open this up and they're like this isn't a Rolex right that was what I was isn't a Rolex right that was what I was isn't a Rolex right that was what I was worried about but what I was happy about worried about but what I was happy about worried about but what I was happy about was because I took it to Rolex they're was because I took it to Rolex they're was because I took it to Rolex they're allowed to open it up if some watchmaker allowed to open it up if some watchmaker allowed to open it up if some watchmaker had opened it up and found it was fake had opened it up and found it was fake had opened it up and found it was fake then that means the warranty and the then that means the warranty and the then that means the warranty and the covering that this Marketplace had they covering that this Marketplace had they covering that this Marketplace had they won't cover it anymore because you won't cover it anymore because you won't cover it anymore because you opened up this watch you shouldn't have opened up this watch you shouldn't have opened up this watch you shouldn't have opened it up so like we'll cover you if opened it up so like we'll cover you if opened it up so like we'll cover you if it's fake how do you figure it's fake it's fake how do you figure it's fake it's fake how do you figure it's fake you can you can you can okay okay okay so Rolex gets back to me in two weeks I so Rolex gets back to me in two weeks I so Rolex gets back to me in two weeks I guess it's gonna cost a thousand bucks guess it's gonna cost a thousand bucks guess it's gonna cost a thousand bucks it's a real watch nice 12 weeks nice but it's a real watch nice 12 weeks nice but it's a real watch nice 12 weeks nice but this was going to be the summer of this was going to be the summer of this was going to be the summer of watches yeah you still got one on I I watches yeah you still got one on I I watches yeah you still got one on I I got another one so the other watch that got another one so the other watch that got another one so the other watch that I wanted was this Cartier Santos medium I wanted was this Cartier Santos medium I wanted was this Cartier Santos medium sized and what's special about this sized and what's special about this sized and what's special about this watch and it's also that one that I watch and it's also that one that I watch and it's also that one that I tried on Lisbon is unlike Rolex that you tried on Lisbon is unlike Rolex that you tried on Lisbon is unlike Rolex that you can go in and get this watch okay so I can go in and get this watch okay so I can go in and get this watch okay so I booked with Cartier booked with Cartier booked with Cartier um in Toronto I go in I buy the watch we um in Toronto I go in I buy the watch we um in Toronto I go in I buy the watch we bring the family in so through those bring the family in so through those bring the family in so through those double doors like in uncut gems where double doors like in uncut gems where double doors like in uncut gems where they get stuck like you have to buzz in they get stuck like you have to buzz in they get stuck like you have to buzz in the first door closes they buzz you in the first door closes they buzz you in the first door closes they buzz you in the second one the kids come in the

the second one the kids come in the the second one the kids come in the Jeweler this is a humbertown Jewelers Jeweler this is a humbertown Jewelers Jeweler this is a humbertown Jewelers shout out to them in Etobicoke they come shout out to them in Etobicoke they come shout out to them in Etobicoke they come out with um bears with their logo on it out with um bears with their logo on it out with um bears with their logo on it for each of the kids while I wait so you for each of the kids while I wait so you for each of the kids while I wait so you bear for each he's working on the links bear for each he's working on the links bear for each he's working on the links we get it sized perfectly we pay we're we get it sized perfectly we pay we're we get it sized perfectly we pay we're chatting it's all great so this watch chatting it's all great so this watch chatting it's all great so this watch um is like it kind of plays a pretty um is like it kind of plays a pretty um is like it kind of plays a pretty cool rule a cool role in the legacy of cool rule a cool role in the legacy of cool rule a cool role in the legacy of watches especially for men so this watch watches especially for men so this watch watches especially for men so this watch was developed for this guy named Santos was developed for this guy named Santos was developed for this guy named Santos who right around the time of the Wright who right around the time of the Wright who right around the time of the Wright brothers was also like pioneering flight brothers was also like pioneering flight brothers was also like pioneering flight for all of us his story is a little bit for all of us his story is a little bit for all of us his story is a little bit less told than the Wright brothers less told than the Wright brothers less told than the Wright brothers because you know the Wright brothers because you know the Wright brothers because you know the Wright brothers were American so were American so were American so um um um um um um the problem was Santos he had this the problem was Santos he had this the problem was Santos he had this pocket watch because men had pocket pocket watch because men had pocket pocket watch because men had pocket watches at the time it was kind of watches at the time it was kind of watches at the time it was kind of considered feminine to wear a wristwatch considered feminine to wear a wristwatch considered feminine to wear a wristwatch man had pocket watches he's like I can't man had pocket watches he's like I can't man had pocket watches he's like I can't freaking fly this plane and then look at freaking fly this plane and then look at freaking fly this plane and then look at this pocket watch I need to be on my this pocket watch I need to be on my this pocket watch I need to be on my wrist he goes to his friend Cartier and wrist he goes to his friend Cartier and wrist he goes to his friend Cartier and Karcher develops this Santos watch that Karcher develops this Santos watch that Karcher develops this Santos watch that we still have today that was so he could we still have today that was so he could we still have today that was so he could wear it on his wrist and figure out the wear it on his wrist and figure out the wear it on his wrist and figure out the flight and it's still iconic to this day flight and it's still iconic to this day flight and it's still iconic to this day for that reason it's like this Square for that reason it's like this Square for that reason it's like this Square which is kind of like unique I'll put it which is kind of like unique I'll put it which is kind of like unique I'll put it in front so the camera can see yeah uh in front so the camera can see yeah uh in front so the camera can see yeah uh which is kind of unique you know think which is kind of unique you know think which is kind of unique you know think about circular watches and so this one about circular watches and so this one about circular watches and so this one is brand new the other one is from 1975 is brand new the other one is from 1975 is brand new the other one is from 1975 keeps time this one does keep time and keeps time this one does keep time and keeps time this one does keep time and as I wait for the Rolex to get fixed I as I wait for the Rolex to get fixed I as I wait for the Rolex to get fixed I would say I love them both equally would say I love them both equally would say I love them both equally um they are you know I have this one for um they are you know I have this one for um they are you know I have this one for the summer and there are only 10 spot the summer and there are only 10 spot the summer and there are only 10 spot italics in this watch box italics in this watch box italics in this watch box so two are spoken for yes like there I'm so two are spoken for yes like there I'm so two are spoken for yes like there I'm not this is not shoes like right I'm not not this is not shoes like right I'm not not this is not shoes like right I'm not having like dozens like there will be 10 having like dozens like there will be 10 having like dozens like there will be 10 at Max ever and ten maybe when I'm like at Max ever and ten maybe when I'm like at Max ever and ten maybe when I'm like 50 or 60 like these these watches are

50 or 60 like these these watches are 50 or 60 like these these watches are not cheap like you have to really build not cheap like you have to really build not cheap like you have to really build up for them so like I have this wish up for them so like I have this wish up for them so like I have this wish list like I'd really like to get list like I'd really like to get list like I'd really like to get um an Audemars piguet Royal Oak that's um an Audemars piguet Royal Oak that's um an Audemars piguet Royal Oak that's like their kind of iconic like their kind of iconic like their kind of iconic um silhouette it's an octagonal shape um silhouette it's an octagonal shape um silhouette it's an octagonal shape but they're huge like these monsters but but they're huge like these monsters but but they're huge like these monsters but they have these like 34 36 37 millimeter they have these like 34 36 37 millimeter they have these like 34 36 37 millimeter versions and here's what's awesome I versions and here's what's awesome I versions and here's what's awesome I always got screwed in the shoe game always got screwed in the shoe game always got screwed in the shoe game because my feet are size eight eight and because my feet are size eight eight and because my feet are size eight eight and a half nine right who else is size eight a half nine right who else is size eight a half nine right who else is size eight eight and a half nine everyone kids yeah eight and a half nine everyone kids yeah eight and a half nine everyone kids yeah teenagers the people that want shoes if teenagers the people that want shoes if teenagers the people that want shoes if you're a size 12 13 14 and you care you're a size 12 13 14 and you care you're a size 12 13 14 and you care about the new Js they're a lot easier to about the new Js they're a lot easier to about the new Js they're a lot easier to get because you're not in competition get because you're not in competition get because you're not in competition with ninth graders but I always am and with ninth graders but I always am and with ninth graders but I always am and so I'm always I was always paying so so I'm always I was always paying so so I'm always I was always paying so much for these hyped shoes because like much for these hyped shoes because like much for these hyped shoes because like every 10th grader wants them as well every 10th grader wants them as well every 10th grader wants them as well but in watches with my little baby but in watches with my little baby but in watches with my little baby wrists nobody wants the small ones so I wrists nobody wants the small ones so I wrists nobody wants the small ones so I was talking with the Rolex dealer and was talking with the Rolex dealer and was talking with the Rolex dealer and he's like yeah you know what be hard to he's like yeah you know what be hard to he's like yeah you know what be hard to get a Rolex and I'm like okay like I I get a Rolex and I'm like okay like I I get a Rolex and I'm like okay like I I like these Yacht-Master yacht Masters like these Yacht-Master yacht Masters like these Yacht-Master yacht Masters like these 37 mil rhodium he's oh the 37 like these 37 mil rhodium he's oh the 37 like these 37 mil rhodium he's oh the 37 mil not the 40. I got it well that would mil not the 40. I got it well that would mil not the 40. I got it well that would be a lot easier to get and I was like be a lot easier to get and I was like be a lot easier to get and I was like yes my theory is proved correct amazing yes my theory is proved correct amazing yes my theory is proved correct amazing uh there's that kind of like the the uh there's that kind of like the the uh there's that kind of like the the goat watch brand is um Patek Philippe goat watch brand is um Patek Philippe goat watch brand is um Patek Philippe and these are all like Swiss you know and these are all like Swiss you know and these are all like Swiss you know Rolex AP attack Loop they're all Swiss Rolex AP attack Loop they're all Swiss Rolex AP attack Loop they're all Swiss and there's some really cool vintage and there's some really cool vintage and there's some really cool vintage pateks that I like the annual calendars pateks that I like the annual calendars pateks that I like the annual calendars you know 5036 reference number I'm you know 5036 reference number I'm you know 5036 reference number I'm saying this so you can kind of put them saying this so you can kind of put them saying this so you can kind of put them that's the one that I sent you the other that's the one that I sent you the other that's the one that I sent you the other day that's a working metronome Oh Yeah day that's a working metronome Oh Yeah day that's a working metronome Oh Yeah from Seiko how cool is that absolutely from Seiko how cool is that absolutely from Seiko how cool is that absolutely yeah very cool so yeah uh last thing we yeah very cool so yeah uh last thing we yeah very cool so yeah uh last thing we said about watches the thing about said about watches the thing about said about watches the thing about watches though is you know I'm the only watches though is you know I'm the only watches though is you know I'm the only one that's into it right now you've

one that's into it right now you've one that's into it right now you've shown some interest and so to that end shown some interest and so to that end shown some interest and so to that end no no no live on the second week no the Pro live on the second week no the Pro live on the second week no the Pro Church tool show Church tool show Church tool show okay so these are two watches from my okay so these are two watches from my okay so these are two watches from my previous collection wow in the world of previous collection wow in the world of previous collection wow in the world of watch enthusiasts they are well regarded watch enthusiasts they are well regarded watch enthusiasts they are well regarded but they're not the right fit for me yes but they're not the right fit for me yes but they're not the right fit for me yes so you get to choose one do I have to so you get to choose one do I have to so you get to choose one do I have to make my choice now or can I sit with it make my choice now or can I sit with it make my choice now or can I sit with it for a little while no no you have to for a little while no no you have to for a little while no no you have to make it right now for the pageantry so make it right now for the pageantry so make it right now for the pageantry so on the left your left this is the tiso on the left your left this is the tiso on the left your left this is the tiso uh gentleman yeah Powermatic yeah and uh gentleman yeah Powermatic yeah and uh gentleman yeah Powermatic yeah and then on the right this is the young Hans then on the right this is the young Hans then on the right this is the young Hans Max bill now they are very distinct from Max bill now they are very distinct from Max bill now they are very distinct from each other they're two really different each other they're two really different each other they're two really different watches and I I you know me and we've watches and I I you know me and we've watches and I I you know me and we've talked about this on the show before talked about this on the show before talked about this on the show before when it comes to Aesthetics I am I'm all when it comes to Aesthetics I am I'm all when it comes to Aesthetics I am I'm all black all the time mostly and so that black all the time mostly and so that black all the time mostly and so that one on the right really does speak to me one on the right really does speak to me one on the right really does speak to me more than the one on the left excellent more than the one on the left excellent more than the one on the left excellent yeah and look at it go I have not wound yeah and look at it go I have not wound yeah and look at it go I have not wound this thing it has just been in my belt this thing it has just been in my belt this thing it has just been in my belt bag yeah moving around and look at it it bag yeah moving around and look at it it bag yeah moving around and look at it it is ticking already just because just is ticking already just because just is ticking already just because just because that's what these automatic because that's what these automatic because that's what these automatic watches do right that's what's so cool watches do right that's what's so cool watches do right that's what's so cool about the engineering there's no there's about the engineering there's no there's about the engineering there's no there's no battery these aren't quartz yes they no battery these aren't quartz yes they no battery these aren't quartz yes they just are powered off of the movement of just are powered off of the movement of just are powered off of the movement of it being on your wrist it's amazing what it being on your wrist it's amazing what it being on your wrist it's amazing what a moment thank you yeah that that is a moment thank you yeah that that is a moment thank you yeah that that is actually my favorite one from the old actually my favorite one from the old actually my favorite one from the old collection wow and it just didn't work collection wow and it just didn't work collection wow and it just didn't work for you yeah it just it just didn't work for you yeah it just it just didn't work for you yeah it just it just didn't work for me and uh you know I hope that it's for me and uh you know I hope that it's for me and uh you know I hope that it's great I actually have a bunch of um great I actually have a bunch of um great I actually have a bunch of um bands too that one's it's easy to take bands too that one's it's easy to take bands too that one's it's easy to take off the band so you know I have a green off the band so you know I have a green off the band so you know I have a green one so if you wanted to matchy match to

one so if you wanted to matchy match to one so if you wanted to matchy match to your to your shirt amazing we announced your to your shirt amazing we announced your to your shirt amazing we announced a giveaway on the top of the show and I a giveaway on the top of the show and I a giveaway on the top of the show and I did not know that I was in for an own did not know that I was in for an own did not know that I was in for an own giveaway of of my own thank you very giveaway of of my own thank you very giveaway of of my own thank you very much yeah you're welcome if you want to much yeah you're welcome if you want to much yeah you're welcome if you want to win win win the Drone yeah the watch is for you this the Drone yeah the watch is for you this the Drone yeah the watch is for you this t-so I'm sorry I can't give it away just t-so I'm sorry I can't give it away just t-so I'm sorry I can't give it away just yet uh yeah the Drone it is uh available yet uh yeah the Drone it is uh available yet uh yeah the Drone it is uh available and the other three prizes or the other and the other three prizes or the other and the other three prizes or the other two prizes overall so enter in and we'll two prizes overall so enter in and we'll two prizes overall so enter in and we'll be back next week as we always are talk be back next week as we always are talk be back next week as we always are talk to you then if you want your question answered on a if you want your question answered on a future episode of the pro church school future episode of the pro church school future episode of the pro church school show send us a text to show send us a text to show send us a text to 1-800-485-3139 new episodes of the pro 1-800-485-3139 new episodes of the pro 1-800-485-3139 new episodes of the pro Church tool show drop every Wednesday so Church tool show drop every Wednesday so Church tool show drop every Wednesday so subscribe to the show on Apple podcast subscribe to the show on Apple podcast subscribe to the show on Apple podcast Spotify or wherever you get your Spotify or wherever you get your Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and thanks as always for your podcasts and thanks as always for your podcasts and thanks as always for your time attention and trust and talk soon time attention and trust and talk soon time attention and trust and talk soon foreign