Darryl Taliaferro on Transmitting Vision to Your Team
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worshiping God we lead in the spirit of worshiping God we lead in the spirit of Liberty we believe I was true the Spirit Liberty we believe I was true the Spirit Liberty we believe I was true the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty you look of the Lord is there is Liberty you look of the Lord is there is Liberty you look you'll experience worship dancing a you'll experience worship dancing a you'll experience worship dancing a great word just a good family atmosphere great word just a good family atmosphere great word just a good family atmosphere very cool what's your role there you're very cool what's your role there you're very cool what's your role there you're the executive pastor right what does the executive pastor right what does the executive pastor right what does that what does that encompass at your that what does that encompass at your that what does that encompass at your church well the executive passes like church well the executive passes like church well the executive passes like the second second chair leader the the second second chair leader the the second second chair leader the person was responsible for the person was responsible for the person was responsible for the administration person responsible for administration person responsible for administration person responsible for ministry oversight ensuring that the ministry oversight ensuring that the ministry oversight ensuring that the vision of the senior pastor is realized vision of the senior pastor is realized vision of the senior pastor is realized and trickled down through various and trickled down through various and trickled down through various components of the ministry very cool now components of the ministry very cool now components of the ministry very cool now that obviously you know in any church is that obviously you know in any church is that obviously you know in any church is is can be difficult obviously a part of is can be difficult obviously a part of is can be difficult obviously a part of what we're trying to do is to implement what we're trying to do is to implement what we're trying to do is to implement the vision that we believe God's given the vision that we believe God's given the vision that we believe God's given the senior pastor the senior leader at the senior pastor the senior leader at the senior pastor the senior leader at our church our church our church but in a growing ministry like but in a growing ministry like but in a growing ministry like yourselves I'm sure that that you know yourselves I'm sure that that you know yourselves I'm sure that that you know has its you know some unique challenges has its you know some unique challenges has its you know some unique challenges to it why don't we explore that a little to it why don't we explore that a little to it why don't we explore that a little bit how do you go about kind of ensuring bit how do you go about kind of ensuring bit how do you go about kind of ensuring that you're that you're aligned with that you're that you're aligned with that you're that you're aligned with your senior pastor at your church well your senior pastor at your church well your senior pastor at your church well that's a great question rich first of that's a great question rich first of that's a great question rich first of all what we do is my pastor and I we sit all what we do is my pastor and I we sit all what we do is my pastor and I we sit and have regular meetings you know a lot and have regular meetings you know a lot and have regular meetings you know a lot of times you'd be surprised about the of times you'd be surprised about the of times you'd be surprised about the leaders who don't either meet with their leaders who don't either meet with their leaders who don't either meet with their leader right give give orders and that's leader right give give orders and that's leader right give give orders and that's it but we we sit and we meet together so it but we we sit and we meet together so it but we we sit and we meet together so that I can understand his heart he can that I can understand his heart he can that I can understand his heart he can understand my heart and in doing so he's understand my heart and in doing so he's understand my heart and in doing so he's able to articulate his vision in such a able to articulate his vision in such a able to articulate his vision in such a way that I clearly understand it I don't way that I clearly understand it I don't way that I clearly understand it I don't understand it there's no way that I can understand it there's no way that I can understand it there's no way that I can help others understand the vision so help others understand the vision so help others understand the vision so once I understand it then I take that once I understand it then I take that once I understand it then I take that vision and I try to make it relevant and vision and I try to make it relevant and vision and I try to make it relevant and palatable to those to which I i leave i
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palatable to those to which I i leave i palatable to those to which I i leave i could say okay men's ministry this is could say okay men's ministry this is could say okay men's ministry this is what the vision means for you women's what the vision means for you women's what the vision means for you women's straight this is what the vision means straight this is what the vision means straight this is what the vision means for you and then helping them to plug in for you and then helping them to plug in for you and then helping them to plug in something ultimately as we have a something ultimately as we have a something ultimately as we have a quarterly quarter system first quarter quarterly quarter system first quarter quarterly quarter system first quarter second quarter third quarter fourth second quarter third quarter fourth second quarter third quarter fourth quarter each quarter we can check in to quarter each quarter we can check in to quarter each quarter we can check in to make sure that the vision is being make sure that the vision is being make sure that the vision is being realized very cool yeah now how often do realized very cool yeah now how often do realized very cool yeah now how often do you and your senior your pastor meet you and your senior your pastor meet you and your senior your pastor meet what does that look like what's the what does that look like what's the what does that look like what's the rhythm look like they're we meet every rhythm look like they're we meet every rhythm look like they're we meet every week okay actually every other week okay week okay actually every other week okay week okay actually every other week okay great and is that what it's like for an great and is that what it's like for an great and is that what it's like for an hour two hours what does that typically hour two hours what does that typically hour two hours what does that typically look like and is that how much does that look like and is that how much does that look like and is that how much does that gets spread spread between say current gets spread spread between say current gets spread spread between say current tactics like what's coming up this tactics like what's coming up this tactics like what's coming up this weekend or close and then long-range weekend or close and then long-range weekend or close and then long-range kind of where are we headed it's it's kind of where are we headed it's it's kind of where are we headed it's it's about 30 minutes to an hour and it's a about 30 minutes to an hour and it's a about 30 minutes to an hour and it's a healthy balance between current issues healthy balance between current issues healthy balance between current issues hot-button issues and where we headed hot-button issues and where we headed hot-button issues and where we headed there are times in which will set aside there are times in which will set aside there are times in which will set aside a special meeting just for where we a special meeting just for where we a special meeting just for where we headed hey this is what I'm thinking headed hey this is what I'm thinking headed hey this is what I'm thinking this is what the Lord is saying this is this is what the Lord is saying this is this is what the Lord is saying this is what we this is what I want you to join what we this is what I want you to join what we this is what I want you to join me in prayer about so that we can come me in prayer about so that we can come me in prayer about so that we can come together see what it is that got a sec together see what it is that got a sec together see what it is that got a sec for our ministry nice then then on the for our ministry nice then then on the for our ministry nice then then on the other side as you trickle down how often other side as you trickle down how often other side as you trickle down how often do you meet with your team how do you do you meet with your team how do you do you meet with your team how do you ensure that they you know are on board ensure that they you know are on board ensure that they you know are on board with that what does that look like we with that what does that look like we with that what does that look like we also meet on the other weeks okay great also meet on the other weeks okay great also meet on the other weeks okay great yeah so it's a I meet with my leader in yeah so it's a I meet with my leader in yeah so it's a I meet with my leader in my pastor on let's say the first and my pastor on let's say the first and my pastor on let's say the first and third week then I'm third week then I'm third week then I'm with my team on the second and fourth with my team on the second and fourth with my team on the second and fourth week the general overseers we're in I'm week the general overseers we're in I'm week the general overseers we're in I'm able to articulate the vision that I've able to articulate the vision that I've able to articulate the vision that I've been given talk about it we mull over it
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been given talk about it we mull over it been given talk about it we mull over it and then you know we kick it around and and then you know we kick it around and and then you know we kick it around and then go from there very cool can you then go from there very cool can you then go from there very cool can you think of a time where there may be was think of a time where there may be was think of a time where there may be was you know particularly you know maybe a you know particularly you know maybe a you know particularly you know maybe a challenging time to roll out you know a challenging time to roll out you know a challenging time to roll out you know a piece of the vision and what you had to piece of the vision and what you had to piece of the vision and what you had to do to ensure that that it you know was do to ensure that that it you know was do to ensure that that it you know was being understood and then ultimately being understood and then ultimately being understood and then ultimately implemented in the team you give us a implemented in the team you give us a implemented in the team you give us a sense of what time like that yeah sense of what time like that yeah sense of what time like that yeah absolutely you know there's an absolutely you know there's an absolutely you know there's an assumption that because Malzahn is such assumption that because Malzahn is such assumption that because Malzahn is such a large church that I mean we have just a large church that I mean we have just a large church that I mean we have just a tree in the backyard that you can just a tree in the backyard that you can just a tree in the backyard that you can just pull money from anyone knows who does pull money from anyone knows who does pull money from anyone knows who does ministry at any level that it takes ministry at any level that it takes ministry at any level that it takes money to do ministry and I remember money to do ministry and I remember money to do ministry and I remember specifically a time where in the world specifically a time where in the world specifically a time where in the world look the country experienced somewhat of look the country experienced somewhat of look the country experienced somewhat of a recession we're in jobs were in fact a recession we're in jobs were in fact a recession we're in jobs were in fact jobs were affected and people literally jobs were affected and people literally jobs were affected and people literally were you know wondering okay how am I were you know wondering okay how am I were you know wondering okay how am I going to rob Peter to pay Paul so that going to rob Peter to pay Paul so that going to rob Peter to pay Paul so that affected the church as well so we went affected the church as well so we went affected the church as well so we went through a period where a lot of our through a period where a lot of our through a period where a lot of our ministries wanted to do various things ministries wanted to do various things ministries wanted to do various things to implement the vision to go on to make to implement the vision to go on to make to implement the vision to go on to make sure that the same passions vision was sure that the same passions vision was sure that the same passions vision was realized but I had to talk to them and realized but I had to talk to them and realized but I had to talk to them and say okay we're gonna we're gonna do the say okay we're gonna we're gonna do the say okay we're gonna we're gonna do the vision but we have to pull back just a vision but we have to pull back just a vision but we have to pull back just a little bit mmm this needs to make sure little bit mmm this needs to make sure little bit mmm this needs to make sure that all of our resources all of our that all of our resources all of our that all of our resources all of our Pistons are hitting yes this one's a Pistons are hitting yes this one's a Pistons are hitting yes this one's a firing and currently because of where we firing and currently because of where we firing and currently because of where we are according to this recession at the are according to this recession at the are according to this recession at the world saying Pistons are not yet fine world saying Pistons are not yet fine world saying Pistons are not yet fine hmm so the challenge was getting hmm so the challenge was getting hmm so the challenge was getting everybody to realize yes we are going to
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everybody to realize yes we are going to everybody to realize yes we are going to do it but we have to step back and do it do it but we have to step back and do it do it but we have to step back and do it methodically and strategic mmm now so methodically and strategic mmm now so methodically and strategic mmm now so the thing that obviously can be a the thing that obviously can be a the thing that obviously can be a difficulty with an executor role is your difficulty with an executor role is your difficulty with an executor role is your sometimes caught between division and sometimes caught between division and sometimes caught between division and then actually get making it happen which then actually get making it happen which then actually get making it happen which obviously a part of what you described obviously a part of what you described obviously a part of what you described there in a scenario when you know you're there in a scenario when you know you're there in a scenario when you know you're you're having to make some decisions you're having to make some decisions you're having to make some decisions some calls between departments that are some calls between departments that are some calls between departments that are either that what they are wanting to do either that what they are wanting to do either that what they are wanting to do is getting funded other departments is getting funded other departments is getting funded other departments there are things you know maybe aren't there are things you know maybe aren't there are things you know maybe aren't getting funded how do you balance those getting funded how do you balance those getting funded how do you balance those out how do you make those decisions out how do you make those decisions out how do you make those decisions first of all like how do you prioritize first of all like how do you prioritize first of all like how do you prioritize but then also how do you kind of work but then also how do you kind of work but then also how do you kind of work that out and ensure that people are all that out and ensure that people are all that out and ensure that people are all along with you as you march towards you along with you as you march towards you along with you as you march towards you know what do you believe what you know what do you believe what you know what do you believe what you believe God's calling your church to one believe God's calling your church to one believe God's calling your church to one of the things that I believe that has of the things that I believe that has of the things that I believe that has been incredibly beneficial in doing that been incredibly beneficial in doing that been incredibly beneficial in doing that love is having these regular meetings love is having these regular meetings love is having these regular meetings with my team excuse me we're in all of with my team excuse me we're in all of with my team excuse me we're in all of the team members are around the table the team members are around the table the team members are around the table and we talk about various programs and and we talk about various programs and and we talk about various programs and events that's coming up so that events that's coming up so that events that's coming up so that everybody has benefit of hearing everybody has benefit of hearing everybody has benefit of hearing everything that's happening so if everything that's happening so if everything that's happening so if there's an event let's say that we have there's an event let's say that we have there's an event let's say that we have to pull back on or one ministry can't do to pull back on or one ministry can't do to pull back on or one ministry can't do it because another ministry is going to it because another ministry is going to it because another ministry is going to do it we explain why in that meeting I do it we explain why in that meeting I do it we explain why in that meeting I have my CFO there he explains okay this have my CFO there he explains okay this have my CFO there he explains okay this is where we are financially you know I'm is where we are financially you know I'm is where we are financially you know I'm there I explained this is where we are there I explained this is where we are there I explained this is where we are from a vision perspective that way from a vision perspective that way from a vision perspective that way everybody understands and I my role is everybody understands and I my role is everybody understands and I my role is to reaffirm yes you're gonna do it but I to reaffirm yes you're gonna do it but I to reaffirm yes you're gonna do it but I just have to push you back to maybe the just have to push you back to maybe the just have to push you back to maybe the third quarter fourth quarter in order to third quarter fourth quarter in order to third quarter fourth quarter in order to get it done very cool very cool well get it done very cool very cool well get it done very cool very cool well anything else you want to kind of share anything else you want to kind of share anything else you want to kind of share about you know implementing the senior
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about you know implementing the senior about you know implementing the senior pastors vision before we move on with pastors vision before we move on with pastors vision before we move on with the rest of the episode you know I think the rest of the episode you know I think the rest of the episode you know I think um rich i think is as an executive um rich i think is as an executive um rich i think is as an executive pastor you just have to do it pastor you just have to do it pastor you just have to do it intentionally okay do it let it be intentionally okay do it let it be intentionally okay do it let it be organic and terms up not force it but if organic and terms up not force it but if organic and terms up not force it but if you understand what the vision is and you understand what the vision is and you understand what the vision is and it's easy to follow it down and make it it's easy to follow it down and make it it's easy to follow it down and make it palatable for other people this is the palatable for other people this is the palatable for other people this is the unset maneri podcast stuff you wish they unset maneri podcast stuff you wish they unset maneri podcast stuff you wish they taught in seminary well we're gonna jump taught in seminary well we're gonna jump taught in seminary well we're gonna jump onto the lightning round that's the part onto the lightning round that's the part onto the lightning round that's the part of the episode where we ask the similar of the episode where we ask the similar of the episode where we ask the similar questions if everybody that's on the questions if everybody that's on the questions if everybody that's on the show today we're super privileged show today we're super privileged show today we're super privileged honored to have pastor Darrell from honored to have pastor Darrell from honored to have pastor Darrell from mount zion baptist church with us in mount zion baptist church with us in mount zion baptist church with us in Nashville Tennessee you know pastor is Nashville Tennessee you know pastor is Nashville Tennessee you know pastor is there any kind of online resources there any kind of online resources there any kind of online resources you're using these days that are you're using these days that are you're using these days that are particularly helpful in your ministry particularly helpful in your ministry particularly helpful in your ministry yes worship planning calm okay nice tell yes worship planning calm okay nice tell yes worship planning calm okay nice tell me about that worship planning calm is me about that worship planning calm is me about that worship planning calm is an amazing online service and I an amazing online service and I an amazing online service and I encourage every ministry if you're encourage every ministry if you're encourage every ministry if you're watching to check it out basically it watching to check it out basically it watching to check it out basically it helps us organize our services with what helps us organize our services with what helps us organize our services with what we call precision timing so everyone we call precision timing so everyone we call precision timing so everyone knows exactly what they're doing what knows exactly what they're doing what knows exactly what they're doing what time they're doing it we know what time time they're doing it we know what time time they're doing it we know what time church starts and we know what time church starts and we know what time church starts and we know what time church ends that way there's no it takes church ends that way there's no it takes church ends that way there's no it takes the guesswork out of what's next and the guesswork out of what's next and the guesswork out of what's next and host doing is so it just organizes our host doing is so it just organizes our host doing is so it just organizes our services now why it's been beneficial services now why it's been beneficial services now why it's been beneficial for us for us for us that we're able to organize our services that we're able to organize our services that we're able to organize our services way in advance so if we have a new way in advance so if we have a new way in advance so if we have a new year's eve service we're able to plan it year's eve service we're able to plan it year's eve service we're able to plan it today give everybody the information so today give everybody the information so today give everybody the information so that nobody's wondering what's gonna that nobody's wondering what's gonna that nobody's wondering what's gonna happen on that serves very cool so happen on that serves very cool so happen on that serves very cool so worship planning calm that's a great a worship planning calm that's a great a worship planning calm that's a great a great resource for sure any books you've
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great resource for sure any books you've great resource for sure any books you've read in the last I don't know say six read in the last I don't know say six read in the last I don't know say six months to a year that's having an impact months to a year that's having an impact months to a year that's having an impact on your thinking or ministry yeah on your thinking or ministry yeah on your thinking or ministry yeah leadership on the line Ronald heifetz leadership on the line Ronald heifetz leadership on the line Ronald heifetz and Marty Lindsey an amazing book what's and Marty Lindsey an amazing book what's and Marty Lindsey an amazing book what's been good about that what spoke to you been good about that what spoke to you been good about that what spoke to you in that well he talks about the danger in that well he talks about the danger in that well he talks about the danger of leadership and how any time you you of leadership and how any time you you of leadership and how any time you you present or deal with conflict it's present or deal with conflict it's present or deal with conflict it's dangerous you're perceived as a danger dangerous you're perceived as a danger dangerous you're perceived as a danger being received as in some respects a being received as in some respects a being received as in some respects a threat continues in the book by talking threat continues in the book by talking threat continues in the book by talking about how when you're in the midst of a about how when you're in the midst of a about how when you're in the midst of a conflicting situation that you're on the conflicting situation that you're on the conflicting situation that you're on the dance floor you're in the midst of the dance floor you're in the midst of the dance floor you're in the midst of the minutia you're in the midst of the issue minutia you're in the midst of the issue minutia you're in the midst of the issue the problem but he encourages you to get the problem but he encourages you to get the problem but he encourages you to get on the balcony you can move the balcony on the balcony you can move the balcony on the balcony you can move the balcony if you have you go to church if you're if you have you go to church if you're if you have you go to church if you're in the balcony you can see the sanctuary in the balcony you can see the sanctuary in the balcony you can see the sanctuary in a greater foot from a great in a greater foot from a great in a greater foot from a great perspective you can see the pit you can perspective you can see the pit you can perspective you can see the pit you can see the Oregon preacher all of that you see the Oregon preacher all of that you see the Oregon preacher all of that you get on the balcony it allows you to see get on the balcony it allows you to see get on the balcony it allows you to see your situation from a greater your situation from a greater your situation from a greater perspective with an objective lens marks perspective with an objective lens marks perspective with an objective lens marks is being tainted by what's going on is being tainted by what's going on is being tainted by what's going on around you very cool very cool what's around you very cool very cool what's around you very cool very cool what's another ministry you're looking at these another ministry you're looking at these another ministry you're looking at these days that's kind of inspiring you willow days that's kind of inspiring you willow days that's kind of inspiring you willow creek okay great yeah willow creek in creek okay great yeah willow creek in creek okay great yeah willow creek in Illinois and I'm amazing ministry very Illinois and I'm amazing ministry very Illinois and I'm amazing ministry very cool if you could get 15 minutes lit cool if you could get 15 minutes lit cool if you could get 15 minutes lit with any leader alive who would you want with any leader alive who would you want with any leader alive who would you want to get that with and and why I'm to get that with and and why I'm to get that with and and why I'm ironically is the pastor room okay right ironically is the pastor room okay right ironically is the pastor room okay right nice you have Bill Hybels right yeah nice you have Bill Hybels right yeah nice you have Bill Hybels right yeah bill Hans great he's a phenomenal leader bill Hans great he's a phenomenal leader bill Hans great he's a phenomenal leader he of course I found of the global he of course I found of the global he of course I found of the global leadership summit takes place every year
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leadership summit takes place every year leadership summit takes place every year his tactics of leadership his ability to his tactics of leadership his ability to his tactics of leadership his ability to lead multiple churches at one time and lead multiple churches at one time and lead multiple churches at one time and staffs is just phenomenal to me mmm very staffs is just phenomenal to me mmm very staffs is just phenomenal to me mmm very cool that's great well I'm sure leading cool that's great well I'm sure leading cool that's great well I'm sure leading at Mount Sinai obviously takes a lot of at Mount Sinai obviously takes a lot of at Mount Sinai obviously takes a lot of time when you're looking just to kind of time when you're looking just to kind of time when you're looking just to kind of kick back and relax kind of enjoy enjoy kick back and relax kind of enjoy enjoy kick back and relax kind of enjoy enjoy life a little bit what do you do to have life a little bit what do you do to have life a little bit what do you do to have fun um well this is the fun um well this is the fun um well this is the crazy rich but honestly just didn't it crazy rich but honestly just didn't it crazy rich but honestly just didn't it sitting on the couch watching movie nice sitting on the couch watching movie nice sitting on the couch watching movie nice oh god that's good that's good that's oh god that's good that's good that's oh god that's good that's good that's great well there I really appreciate you great well there I really appreciate you great well there I really appreciate you being on the show today thank you so being on the show today thank you so being on the show today thank you so much for taking time out from your much for taking time out from your much for taking time out from your schedule to be with us if people want to schedule to be with us if people want to schedule to be with us if people want to get in touch with you or with the church get in touch with you or with the church get in touch with you or with the church what's the best way to do that the best what's the best way to do that the best what's the best way to do that the best way is I'm on every social media way is I'm on every social media way is I'm on every social media platform I would encourage you to follow platform I would encourage you to follow platform I would encourage you to follow me IM telef Errol I am tal I a fe Oro or me IM telef Errol I am tal I a fe Oro or me IM telef Errol I am tal I a fe Oro or email me at dtella Farrell at mount zion email me at dtella Farrell at mount zion email me at dtella Farrell at mount zion national org and I'd definitely be a national org and I'd definitely be a national org and I'd definitely be a blessing to you in any way that I can blessing to you in any way that I can blessing to you in any way that I can nice yeah I got a chance to watch some nice yeah I got a chance to watch some nice yeah I got a chance to watch some of your YouTube videos I really liked of your YouTube videos I really liked of your YouTube videos I really liked him I thought they were they were great him I thought they were they were great him I thought they were they were great really cool for sure I proceed thanks so really cool for sure I proceed thanks so really cool for sure I proceed thanks so much thanks for being on the show thank much thanks for being on the show thank much thanks for being on the show thank you so much thank you for tuning in to you so much thank you for tuning in to you so much thank you for tuning in to this week's unsung re podcast don't be this week's unsung re podcast don't be this week's unsung re podcast don't be shy we'd love to connect check out on shy we'd love to connect check out on shy we'd love to connect check out on seminary in box you can sign up at seminary in box you can sign up at seminary in box you can sign up at unsummon re calm and we'll send you unsummon re calm and we'll send you unsummon re calm and we'll send you helpful training resources every week helpful training resources every week helpful training resources every week plus you'll gain immediate access to our plus you'll gain immediate access to our plus you'll gain immediate access to our exclusive members area with tons of exclusive members area with tons of exclusive members area with tons of resources you can use connect with rich resources you can use connect with rich resources you can use connect with rich on twitter at rich birch or through on twitter at rich birch or through on twitter at rich birch or through email rich at unset maneri calm don't
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Summary
This podcast episode explores practical ministry challenges faced by church leaders, featuring Darrell Telefe Arrow, executive pastor of Mount Zion Baptist Church. The discussion highlights the importance of operational effectiveness and community engagement, referencing the growth of Mount Zion from 75 to 22,000 members. The takeaway emphasizes the need for skills beyond seminary training to effectively lead and grow a church.