Robert Manda from Malawi on Valuing Your Relationship with God Above Everything Else

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on the first printed copies of my book on the first printed copies of my book that comes out on November first that I that comes out on November first that I that comes out on November first that I wrote for you and the leaders at your wrote for you and the leaders at your wrote for you and the leaders at your church the reason why I wrote it was church the reason why I wrote it was church the reason why I wrote it was because I really want to celebrate the because I really want to celebrate the because I really want to celebrate the 10 churches that I talked about in here 10 churches that I talked about in here 10 churches that I talked about in here the subtitle tells it all 10 churches the subtitle tells it all 10 churches the subtitle tells it all 10 churches who zagged when other zigged and saw who zagged when other zigged and saw who zagged when other zigged and saw more impact because of it and I got to more impact because of it and I got to more impact because of it and I got to be honest the thing as I you know kind be honest the thing as I you know kind be honest the thing as I you know kind of held some physical copies in my hand of held some physical copies in my hand of held some physical copies in my hand the thing that kind of got me was all the thing that kind of got me was all the thing that kind of got me was all the people who have written endorsements the people who have written endorsements the people who have written endorsements of this book so I sent it out to a of this book so I sent it out to a of this book so I sent it out to a series of friends and acquaintances in series of friends and acquaintances in series of friends and acquaintances in the ministry world and I'm really blown the ministry world and I'm really blown the ministry world and I'm really blown away it ended up being pages and pages away it ended up being pages and pages away it ended up being pages and pages of endorsements you know folks like Dan of endorsements you know folks like Dan of endorsements you know folks like Dan Ryland from 12 stone or Heather Larson Ryland from 12 stone or Heather Larson Ryland from 12 stone or Heather Larson she's the executive pastor at Willow she's the executive pastor at Willow she's the executive pastor at Willow Creek or Frank Bieler he's a part Creek or Frank Bieler he's a part Creek or Frank Bieler he's a part the lead team at elevation or carry new the lead team at elevation or carry new the lead team at elevation or carry new hof who wrote a great endorsement and hof who wrote a great endorsement and hof who wrote a great endorsement and also wrote a really a compelling forward also wrote a really a compelling forward also wrote a really a compelling forward to it I was so thankful for that or Tim to it I was so thankful for that or Tim to it I was so thankful for that or Tim Stevens you might know him he's an Stevens you might know him he's an Stevens you might know him he's an author blogger currently works at Vander author blogger currently works at Vander author blogger currently works at Vander blue mint search group or ordering gray blue mint search group or ordering gray blue mint search group or ordering gray he's the lead pastor at transformation he's the lead pastor at transformation he's the lead pastor at transformation Church Denny Jenny Catrin she's an Church Denny Jenny Catrin she's an Church Denny Jenny Catrin she's an author and the CEO of foresight group author and the CEO of foresight group author and the CEO of foresight group dan Rizzo from arc and church of the dan Rizzo from arc and church of the dan Rizzo from arc and church of the highlands so many and I was so honored highlands so many and I was so honored highlands so many and I was so honored that these folks you know set out and that these folks you know set out and that these folks you know set out and let me know you know kind of their words let me know you know kind of their words let me know you know kind of their words their thoughts about the book so i would their thoughts about the book so i would their thoughts about the book so i would love to for you and your team to pick love to for you and your team to pick love to for you and your team to pick them up they come out november first but them up they come out november first but them up they come out november first but if you want to read a chapter kind of if you want to read a chapter kind of if you want to read a chapter kind of get a sneak peek you can do that by get a sneak peek you can do that by get a sneak peek you can do that by going to unreasonable churches calm you going to unreasonable churches calm you going to unreasonable churches calm you can pick up a copy thereof a chapter can pick up a copy thereof a chapter can pick up a copy thereof a chapter just sign up and and that will also put

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the present I see church that is still the present I see church that is still growing we are much focused into the growing we are much focused into the growing we are much focused into the world and we are reaching both too young world and we are reaching both too young world and we are reaching both too young people adults and children because we people adults and children because we people adults and children because we believe that the church it has to be the believe that the church it has to be the believe that the church it has to be the whole family we are located in the whole family we are located in the whole family we are located in the capital city of Malawi which is in the capital city of Malawi which is in the capital city of Malawi which is in the southern part of Africa so yeah that's southern part of Africa so yeah that's southern part of Africa so yeah that's that's who we are very cool why don't that's who we are very cool why don't that's who we are very cool why don't you tell us about Malawi why don't you you tell us about Malawi why don't you you tell us about Malawi why don't you kind of give us a sense of the spiritual kind of give us a sense of the spiritual kind of give us a sense of the spiritual climate of your country give us a sense climate of your country give us a sense climate of your country give us a sense of what you know what's happening in of what you know what's happening in of what you know what's happening in your country you know as relationship to your country you know as relationship to your country you know as relationship to the gospel and the message of Jesus the gospel and the message of Jesus the gospel and the message of Jesus great malawi maybe before I come to that great malawi maybe before I come to that great malawi maybe before I come to that question maybe people who are watching question maybe people who are watching question maybe people who are watching us maybe one thing what they're easy us maybe one thing what they're easy us maybe one thing what they're easy ways Malawi and what is Malawi like you ways Malawi and what is Malawi like you ways Malawi and what is Malawi like you know Malawi is popularly yeah Malawi's know Malawi is popularly yeah Malawi's know Malawi is popularly yeah Malawi's popularly known as the warm heart of popularly known as the warm heart of popularly known as the warm heart of africa it was colonized by the British africa it was colonized by the British africa it was colonized by the British government and we got our independence government and we got our independence government and we got our independence in 1964 and the missionaries who phrase in 1964 and the missionaries who phrase in 1964 and the missionaries who phrase came to Malawi were from Britain and came to Malawi were from Britain and came to Malawi were from Britain and when they came they planted the gospel when they came they planted the gospel when they came they planted the gospel in many parts of Malawi but then after in many parts of Malawi but then after in many parts of Malawi but then after they had gone there's been bad gap and they had gone there's been bad gap and they had gone there's been bad gap and now coming back to operation what is the now coming back to operation what is the now coming back to operation what is the climate of spiritual crime into you know climate of spiritual crime into you know climate of spiritual crime into you know Malawi at the moment I would say Malawi Malawi at the moment I would say Malawi Malawi at the moment I would say Malawi is like a pregnant woman who is ready to

is like a pregnant woman who is ready to is like a pregnant woman who is ready to give it breath what I'm trying to say is give it breath what I'm trying to say is give it breath what I'm trying to say is that people are so face a two-hit God's that people are so face a two-hit God's that people are so face a two-hit God's right I've been to many parts of the right I've been to many parts of the right I've been to many parts of the world I've never seen a place where world I've never seen a place where world I've never seen a place where people are so faced for God's Way it's people are so faced for God's Way it's people are so faced for God's Way it's like Malawi I mean someone would say like Malawi I mean someone would say like Malawi I mean someone would say that's a cool but it also makes the that's a cool but it also makes the that's a cool but it also makes the church and the people to be vulnerable church and the people to be vulnerable church and the people to be vulnerable because some of the people who are because some of the people who are because some of the people who are preaching this so-called gospel it's not preaching this so-called gospel it's not preaching this so-called gospel it's not even the gospel but because they know even the gospel but because they know even the gospel but because they know that people are facing for God's where that people are facing for God's where that people are facing for God's where I'll give you an example if you have a I'll give you an example if you have a I'll give you an example if you have a now you today we go downtown we just now you today we go downtown we just now you today we go downtown we just start preaching along the road people start preaching along the road people start preaching along the road people are going to stop they're going to are going to stop they're going to are going to stop they're going to listen from us whether we preach the listen from us whether we preach the listen from us whether we preach the Bible or we preach something else that Bible or we preach something else that Bible or we preach something else that we stop listening to us mm-hmm so we are we stop listening to us mm-hmm so we are we stop listening to us mm-hmm so we are at that crossroads like I say that at that crossroads like I say that at that crossroads like I say that people are facing for God's Word and I people are facing for God's Word and I people are facing for God's Word and I cry because there is a movement right cry because there is a movement right cry because there is a movement right now in Malawi where people are so taken now in Malawi where people are so taken now in Malawi where people are so taken up into prophetic ministry okay and up into prophetic ministry okay and up into prophetic ministry okay and these are false prophets they are just these are false prophets they are just these are false prophets they are just misleading innocent souls and that misleading innocent souls and that misleading innocent souls and that that's how I look at my country but of that's how I look at my country but of that's how I look at my country but of course on the other hand that those course on the other hand that those course on the other hand that those people who are passionate to preach people who are passionate to preach people who are passionate to preach Christ and Christ along to the people Christ and Christ along to the people Christ and Christ along to the people but by and large we invited their Emma but by and large we invited their Emma but by and large we invited their Emma brother oh that's amazing so that it's brother oh that's amazing so that it's brother oh that's amazing so that it's interesting that you know obviously the interesting that you know obviously the interesting that you know obviously the the Spirit is doing something to make the Spirit is doing something to make the Spirit is doing something to make people available for the gospel but then

people available for the gospel but then people available for the gospel but then you you know that there are obviously you you know that there are obviously you you know that there are obviously some negative false teachers that are some negative false teachers that are some negative false teachers that are stepping in to you know trying to take stepping in to you know trying to take stepping in to you know trying to take advantage of that so it's got that advantage of that so it's got that advantage of that so it's got that situation if you're let's say you know situation if you're let's say you know situation if you're let's say you know at your church you know people are at your church you know people are at your church you know people are willing to come they're willing to come willing to come they're willing to come willing to come they're willing to come here you to listen to the word are two here you to listen to the word are two here you to listen to the word are two people invite like our York do the people invite like our York do the people invite like our York do the people that go to your church or do they people that go to your church or do they people that go to your church or do they invite their friends to come their invite their friends to come their invite their friends to come their family what does that look like how do family what does that look like how do family what does that look like how do people hear about your church well it's people hear about your church well it's people hear about your church well it's more like um when we started we started more like um when we started we started more like um when we started we started a small we started it's like into a a small we started it's like into a a small we started it's like into a small group of people right we started small group of people right we started small group of people right we started about maybe 10 people but now by God's about maybe 10 people but now by God's about maybe 10 people but now by God's grace we have about 500 plus members Wow grace we have about 500 plus members Wow grace we have about 500 plus members Wow so basically the we do have a strategy so basically the we do have a strategy so basically the we do have a strategy whereby we teach people the truth you whereby we teach people the truth you whereby we teach people the truth you know I scripture says they shall know know I scripture says they shall know know I scripture says they shall know the truth the truth the truth the truth is going to set them free so the truth is going to set them free so the truth is going to set them free so we preach Christ and they take that we preach Christ and they take that we preach Christ and they take that message to their families and once they message to their families and once they message to their families and once they share what they have learned from the share what they have learned from the share what they have learned from the church their families they also come church their families they also come church their families they also come because they're looking and searching because they're looking and searching because they're looking and searching for the truth interest rate so bill for the truth interest rate so bill for the truth interest rate so bill scurry if you talk about my church how scurry if you talk about my church how scurry if you talk about my church how do we reach out to people we use like do we reach out to people we use like do we reach out to people we use like families you know and the finalists families you know and the finalists families you know and the finalists there is two other families right there is two other families right there is two other families right because as a pastor I can't reach because as a pastor I can't reach because as a pastor I can't reach everybody all the time but when people everybody all the time but when people everybody all the time but when people come we preach them the gospel and then

come we preach them the gospel and then come we preach them the gospel and then they get the gospel and they get it to they get the gospel and they get it to they get the gospel and they get it to their families and it automatically to their families and it automatically to their families and it automatically to the community and then they happen to the community and then they happen to the community and then they happen to know what God is doing around the know what God is doing around the know what God is doing around the community now most of the people who community now most of the people who community now most of the people who come to your church are they in the city come to your church are they in the city come to your church are they in the city center there they from come from the center there they from come from the center there they from come from the long way are they in the you know in long way are they in the you know in long way are they in the you know in that community are they like in more that community are they like in more that community are they like in more urban you know folks that's interesting urban you know folks that's interesting urban you know folks that's interesting question ah my mind my set our setup is question ah my mind my set our setup is question ah my mind my set our setup is a bit different because we are between a bit different because we are between a bit different because we are between the city and the village so we are in the city and the village so we are in the city and the village so we are in between okay so in a state now that's between okay so in a state now that's between okay so in a state now that's the suburbs that's you know the kinds of the suburbs that's you know the kinds of the suburbs that's you know the kinds of different data because you're Sabha is different data because you're Sabha is different data because you're Sabha is filled with different people but yes sir filled with different people but yes sir filled with different people but yes sir bobby's like the average kind of people bobby's like the average kind of people bobby's like the average kind of people okay interesting you get what I'm saying okay interesting you get what I'm saying okay interesting you get what I'm saying sure yeah no that's that's really sure yeah no that's that's really sure yeah no that's that's really interesting or kind of your churches interesting or kind of your churches interesting or kind of your churches between the urban center and out in the between the urban center and out in the between the urban center and out in the villages you're in kind of a you know villages you're in kind of a you know villages you're in kind of a you know transition zone so do you draw from both transition zone so do you draw from both transition zone so do you draw from both the urban and from rule or is it just the urban and from rule or is it just the urban and from rule or is it just from that kind of zone in between from that kind of zone in between from that kind of zone in between majority out from the rural area okay majority out from the rural area okay majority out from the rural area okay and then a few people from the urban and then a few people from the urban and then a few people from the urban site okay interesting interesting well site okay interesting interesting well site okay interesting interesting well it is what is God using to make an it is what is God using to make an it is what is God using to make an impact in your in your culture you know impact in your in your culture you know impact in your in your culture you know obviously within your church or even in obviously within your church or even in obviously within your church or even in other you know movements that you're other you know movements that you're other you know movements that you're seeing in Malawi what is he what is he seeing in Malawi what is he what is he seeing in Malawi what is he what is he using their a brother reach to be honest using their a brother reach to be honest using their a brother reach to be honest with you are the experience that I have with you are the experience that I have with you are the experience that I have had over the time is it's by God's grace

had over the time is it's by God's grace had over the time is it's by God's grace to how an intimate to how an intimate to how an intimate Jesus Christ what I meant by that Jesus Christ what I meant by that Jesus Christ what I meant by that as a passer as a god-fearin that God has as a passer as a god-fearin that God has as a passer as a god-fearin that God has called me I can't give the people what I called me I can't give the people what I called me I can't give the people what I don't have hmm and I can't have if I'm don't have hmm and I can't have if I'm don't have hmm and I can't have if I'm not connected to the master you know in not connected to the master you know in not connected to the master you know in John chapter 15 where Jesus was saying John chapter 15 where Jesus was saying John chapter 15 where Jesus was saying yeah the branch and the branch has to be yeah the branch and the branch has to be yeah the branch and the branch has to be connected to the same and it goes on to connected to the same and it goes on to connected to the same and it goes on to say there is no way the branch can say there is no way the branch can say there is no way the branch can produce a fruit if it is not connected produce a fruit if it is not connected produce a fruit if it is not connected so the first thing that I've discovered so the first thing that I've discovered so the first thing that I've discovered by God's grace is to maintain my by God's grace is to maintain my by God's grace is to maintain my relationship with my god through private relationship with my god through private relationship with my god through private time of devotional time reading time of devotional time reading time of devotional time reading Scripture the US one where that has Scripture the US one where that has Scripture the US one where that has maintained what we have done so far and maintained what we have done so far and maintained what we have done so far and secondly it's not only about my intimate secondly it's not only about my intimate secondly it's not only about my intimate relationship with Jesus Christ but also relationship with Jesus Christ but also relationship with Jesus Christ but also its see it this is God's work is never its see it this is God's work is never its see it this is God's work is never makes it be one man show so it's we work makes it be one man show so it's we work makes it be one man show so it's we work as a team I do have people men and women as a team I do have people men and women as a team I do have people men and women but God has brought us together so we but God has brought us together so we but God has brought us together so we wake as a team so even though I'm the wake as a team so even though I'm the wake as a team so even though I'm the lead pasta but I do have some passes lead pasta but I do have some passes lead pasta but I do have some passes surrounding me I do have some leaders surrounding me I do have some leaders surrounding me I do have some leaders you know deacons and other and other you know deacons and other and other you know deacons and other and other elders that we work together as a team elders that we work together as a team elders that we work together as a team it's my job to make sure that these

it's my job to make sure that these it's my job to make sure that these leaders the team that I'm heading they leaders the team that I'm heading they leaders the team that I'm heading they should also be in resaw I do should also be in resaw I do should also be in resaw I do deliberately do what I call discipleship deliberately do what I call discipleship deliberately do what I call discipleship time with the people that I way how time with the people that I way how time with the people that I way how often do you do the discipleship time often do you do the discipleship time often do you do the discipleship time this training experience with your this training experience with your this training experience with your leaders what does that look like is that leaders what does that look like is that leaders what does that look like is that like weekly monthly how do you train like weekly monthly how do you train like weekly monthly how do you train your leaders because I think one of the your leaders because I think one of the your leaders because I think one of the things leaders all over the world church things leaders all over the world church things leaders all over the world church leaders all over the world they struggle leaders all over the world they struggle leaders all over the world they struggle with that like I want to i want the with that like I want to i want the with that like I want to i want the ministry to go beyond me but i want to ministry to go beyond me but i want to ministry to go beyond me but i want to train these people how do you how are train these people how do you how are train these people how do you how are you doing that the method that could you doing that the method that could you doing that the method that could have used is that we make every month have used is that we make every month have used is that we make every month end ok so if end ok so if end ok so if if God gives us a time every month and if God gives us a time every month and if God gives us a time every month and we come together all departments from we come together all departments from we come together all departments from the children's ministry from women the children's ministry from women the children's ministry from women ministry from the adult ministry I'm ministry from the adult ministry I'm ministry from the adult ministry I'm talking about the key leaders we come talking about the key leaders we come talking about the key leaders we come together we pray together and we get together we pray together and we get together we pray together and we get reports what's what is God doing in reports what's what is God doing in reports what's what is God doing in their ministries how can we pray for their ministries how can we pray for their ministries how can we pray for them so through that kind of interaction them so through that kind of interaction them so through that kind of interaction between the lead pastor and the people between the lead pastor and the people between the lead pastor and the people who are surrounded the whole ministry we who are surrounded the whole ministry we who are surrounded the whole ministry we have seen that God is leaving us you have seen that God is leaving us you have seen that God is leaving us you know one step at a time mm-hmm very cool know one step at a time mm-hmm very cool know one step at a time mm-hmm very cool is your it is your church are you is your it is your church are you is your it is your church are you involved in meeting practical needs in involved in meeting practical needs in involved in meeting practical needs in your community are you kind of using your community are you kind of using your community are you kind of using that as a way to build a relation or that as a way to build a relation or that as a way to build a relation or relational bridge out to you know your

relational bridge out to you know your relational bridge out to you know your community any like social services any community any like social services any community any like social services any that kind of thing yes we do talk about that kind of thing yes we do talk about that kind of thing yes we do talk about that yeah because you know one of the that yeah because you know one of the that yeah because you know one of the things rich is that when you talk of the things rich is that when you talk of the things rich is that when you talk of the church is not only about coming together church is not only about coming together church is not only about coming together on sunday right the church in any on sunday right the church in any on sunday right the church in any biblical in biblical words is supposed biblical in biblical words is supposed biblical in biblical words is supposed to be the light and the sort of the to be the light and the sort of the to be the light and the sort of the world so as a church we have world so as a church we have world so as a church we have deliberately make ourselves to be deliberately make ourselves to be deliberately make ourselves to be holistic kind of approach we are holistic kind of approach we are holistic kind of approach we are involved in a in a healthy sector we involved in a in a healthy sector we involved in a in a healthy sector we have got hospital we have got education have got hospital we have got education have got hospital we have got education of God university that is training like of God university that is training like of God university that is training like young people in IT why do we also we are young people in IT why do we also we are young people in IT why do we also we are also training nesses for for that matter also training nesses for for that matter also training nesses for for that matter so yeah we we are involved in social so yeah we we are involved in social so yeah we we are involved in social services we are involved in education services we are involved in education services we are involved in education sector but by and large all of those sector but by and large all of those sector but by and large all of those things are surrounding what the mission things are surrounding what the mission things are surrounding what the mission of the church is supposed to be so yes of the church is supposed to be so yes of the church is supposed to be so yes we are also involved in other activities we are also involved in other activities we are also involved in other activities apart from preaching like on Sunday apart from preaching like on Sunday apart from preaching like on Sunday basis right absolutely well you know one basis right absolutely well you know one basis right absolutely well you know one of the things we're doing as we're of the things we're doing as we're of the things we're doing as we're talking with leaders around the world is talking with leaders around the world is talking with leaders around the world is we're asking them to to speak as friends we're asking them to to speak as friends we're asking them to to speak as friends and brothers to the church in america and brothers to the church in america and brothers to the church in america and what would you say to leaders here and what would you say to leaders here and what would you say to leaders here you know how how what can we you know do you know how how what can we you know do you know how how what can we you know do to reach our culture and to think about to reach our culture and to think about to reach our culture and to think about you know how we disciple the people in

you know how we disciple the people in you know how we disciple the people in our communities what would you what our communities what would you what our communities what would you what advice would you give us well I think advice would you give us well I think advice would you give us well I think you to go back to what I had already you to go back to what I had already you to go back to what I had already side area one like leaders and churches side area one like leaders and churches side area one like leaders and churches where they didn't estates or in wherever where they didn't estates or in wherever where they didn't estates or in wherever in the world I think leaders must know in the world I think leaders must know in the world I think leaders must know that phrase of all we need to maintain that phrase of all we need to maintain that phrase of all we need to maintain that relationship with Jesus Christ is that relationship with Jesus Christ is that relationship with Jesus Christ is another thing to graduate from seminary another thing to graduate from seminary another thing to graduate from seminary and to get all the doctrine but we are and to get all the doctrine but we are and to get all the doctrine but we are all gone or through in the seminary but all gone or through in the seminary but all gone or through in the seminary but it's another thing to use that it's another thing to use that it's another thing to use that information by the grace of God and be information by the grace of God and be information by the grace of God and be connected to God so what I'm trying to connected to God so what I'm trying to connected to God so what I'm trying to say is that we are living in a world say is that we are living in a world say is that we are living in a world where by everybody is busy there's so where by everybody is busy there's so where by everybody is busy there's so many meets a lot of people seeking many meets a lot of people seeking many meets a lot of people seeking concerning but I think as church leaders concerning but I think as church leaders concerning but I think as church leaders we need deliberately you know slow down we need deliberately you know slow down we need deliberately you know slow down and how time with a low Jesus Christ I and how time with a low Jesus Christ I and how time with a low Jesus Christ I am always fascinated with how Jesus am always fascinated with how Jesus am always fascinated with how Jesus Christ did his ministry scripture says Christ did his ministry scripture says Christ did his ministry scripture says that every day he isolated himself hmm I that every day he isolated himself hmm I that every day he isolated himself hmm I mean this is Christ the master the mean this is Christ the master the mean this is Christ the master the Savior God himself mm-hmm what about us Savior God himself mm-hmm what about us Savior God himself mm-hmm what about us leaders so good so dear friends whoever leaders so good so dear friends whoever leaders so good so dear friends whoever is watching this episode I will be is watching this episode I will be is watching this episode I will be encouraged you if a leader take time to encouraged you if a leader take time to encouraged you if a leader take time to communicate and to fellowship with God

communicate and to fellowship with God communicate and to fellowship with God and secondly I would also to say that and secondly I would also to say that and secondly I would also to say that are as a church in the wayside I think are as a church in the wayside I think are as a church in the wayside I think we should not limit ourselves when comes we should not limit ourselves when comes we should not limit ourselves when comes to empowering others to help with the to empowering others to help with the to empowering others to help with the ministry first as we can't do everything ministry first as we can't do everything ministry first as we can't do everything by ourselves right so just some people by ourselves right so just some people by ourselves right so just some people in churches that some women there's a in churches that some women there's a in churches that some women there's a man that some young people in the man that some young people in the man that some young people in the churches that we need to empower and churches that we need to empower and churches that we need to empower and trust you me trust you me trust you me by God's grace God can use them for his by God's grace God can use them for his by God's grace God can use them for his own glory hmm that's very good I I own glory hmm that's very good I I own glory hmm that's very good I I appreciate that encouragement definitely appreciate that encouragement definitely appreciate that encouragement definitely I think as we as we lead we have to have I think as we as we lead we have to have I think as we as we lead we have to have a vibrant growing faith we have to stay a vibrant growing faith we have to stay a vibrant growing faith we have to stay connected to Christ for us you know connected to Christ for us you know connected to Christ for us you know ultimately to lead people there we can't ultimately to lead people there we can't ultimately to lead people there we can't do it out of an empty well you know for do it out of an empty well you know for do it out of an empty well you know for sure I appreciate that anything else you sure I appreciate that anything else you sure I appreciate that anything else you want to say before we wrap up today well want to say before we wrap up today well want to say before we wrap up today well um I mean for me is just to say thank um I mean for me is just to say thank um I mean for me is just to say thank you so much reach for having me I mean I you so much reach for having me I mean I you so much reach for having me I mean I don't take this for granted I every day don't take this for granted I every day don't take this for granted I every day for me say miracle everyday it's a gift for me say miracle everyday it's a gift for me say miracle everyday it's a gift and every day I'm excited when I woke up and every day I'm excited when I woke up and every day I'm excited when I woke up in the morning I begin the day by the in the morning I begin the day by the in the morning I begin the day by the way by having my time with my daddy way by having my time with my daddy way by having my time with my daddy which is God himself I mean I wish which is God himself I mean I wish which is God himself I mean I wish leaders I wish church leaders we could leaders I wish church leaders we could leaders I wish church leaders we could get to that place where we value that

get to that place where we value that get to that place where we value that relationship with Jesus Christ more than relationship with Jesus Christ more than relationship with Jesus Christ more than anything else mm-hmm you may have a mat anything else mm-hmm you may have a mat anything else mm-hmm you may have a mat purpose like you may have a big church purpose like you may have a big church purpose like you may have a big church but if you lose that connection with God but if you lose that connection with God but if you lose that connection with God hmm what benefit right what have you hmm what benefit right what have you hmm what benefit right what have you gained absolutely well thank you Robert gained absolutely well thank you Robert gained absolutely well thank you Robert for being on the show today does your for being on the show today does your for being on the show today does your church have a website or if people want church have a website or if people want church have a website or if people want to get in touch with you how could they to get in touch with you how could they to get in touch with you how could they do that well um our church is Aston it do that well um our church is Aston it do that well um our church is Aston it doesn't have a website but Lane the doesn't have a website but Lane the doesn't have a website but Lane the process we're going to have I website process we're going to have I website process we're going to have I website very soon but we do have a website for very soon but we do have a website for very soon but we do have a website for the discipleship program which we the discipleship program which we the discipleship program which we started so people can log in on ww PT IM started so people can log in on ww PT IM started so people can log in on ww PT IM malawi ok pto wtpt IM malawi and they malawi ok pto wtpt IM malawi and they malawi ok pto wtpt IM malawi and they will be able to see some of the will be able to see some of the will be able to see some of the discipleship program that we are having discipleship program that we are having discipleship program that we are having let me finish by saying this the world let me finish by saying this the world let me finish by saying this the world is dying and they are seeking you on the is dying and they are seeking you on the is dying and they are seeking you on the I have been caught by the grace of God I have been caught by the grace of God I have been caught by the grace of God they are looking for answers goddess they are looking for answers goddess they are looking for answers goddess orders to be the light and to be orders to be the light and to be orders to be the light and to be dissolved in Malawi for instance the dissolved in Malawi for instance the dissolved in Malawi for instance the harvest is printing but the workers are harvest is printing but the workers are harvest is printing but the workers are few whoever is watching this outrage you few whoever is watching this outrage you few whoever is watching this outrage you pray for me loud prather the gospel pray for me loud prather the gospel pray for me loud prather the gospel should scrub out I mean the whole should scrub out I mean the whole should scrub out I mean the whole country of Malawi but men and women may

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