Gene Jennings on Passing on the Church to the Next Generation

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doesn't want to do if I said it's so why doesn't want to do if I said it's so why don't you tell us about the church gene don't you tell us about the church gene don't you tell us about the church gene I'm so glad you're on the show today I'm so glad you're on the show today I'm so glad you're on the show today that's so funny you said that because that's so funny you said that because that's so funny you said that because that's when people ask me what I do as I that's when people ask me what I do as I that's when people ask me what I do as I do everything Steve doesn't want to do do everything Steve doesn't want to do do everything Steve doesn't want to do yeah that's exactly on this yeah what yeah that's exactly on this yeah what yeah that's exactly on this yeah what same thing for sure kind of the I guess same thing for sure kind of the I guess same thing for sure kind of the I guess some would call it executive pastor but some would call it executive pastor but some would call it executive pastor but I like associate better I never liked I like associate better I never liked I like associate better I never liked the executive is entity business see for the executive is entity business see for the executive is entity business see for me right I like pastoral role and I me right I like pastoral role and I me right I like pastoral role and I don't I used to be over the financial we don't I used to be over the financial we don't I used to be over the financial we now have an administrative pastor that now have an administrative pastor that now have an administrative pastor that help swim with that HUD teles well I help swim with that HUD teles well I help swim with that HUD teles well I forgot what you asked me now yeah why forgot what you asked me now yeah why forgot what you asked me now yeah why don't you kind of tell us about the don't you kind of tell us about the don't you kind of tell us about the church if people were to come this church if people were to come this church if people were to come this weekend what would they experience and weekend what would they experience and weekend what would they experience and then you know get us a bit of a flavor then you know get us a bit of a flavor then you know get us a bit of a flavor of the church yeah it's a great church of the church yeah it's a great church of the church yeah it's a great church all the way from the parking lot all the all the way from the parking lot all the all the way from the parking lot all the way inside we've done a great job with way inside we've done a great job with way inside we've done a great job with our first impressions teams and people our first impressions teams and people our first impressions teams and people always marvel and rave about just a always marvel and rave about just a always marvel and rave about just a welcoming atmosphere that we have welcoming atmosphere that we have welcoming atmosphere that we have obviously casual dressed very casual obviously casual dressed very casual obviously casual dressed very casual atmosphere rocking band a great atmosphere rocking band a great atmosphere rocking band a great production it's just a great show kids production it's just a great show kids production it's just a great show kids building kids ministries as well as as building kids ministries as well as as building kids ministries as well as as in our auditorium oh I'm living the in our auditorium oh I'm living the in our auditorium oh I'm living the dream rich I trained about this church dream rich I trained about this church dream rich I trained about this church starting in 1987 when I was in seminary starting in 1987 when I was in seminary starting in 1987 when I was in seminary and I finally saw the dream come true 19 and I finally saw the dream come true 19 and I finally saw the dream come true 19 years later when I joined the staff here years later when I joined the staff here years later when I joined the staff here in 2006 just a couple of years into big in 2006 just a couple of years into big in 2006 just a couple of years into big just in the Ministry of the church here just in the Ministry of the church here just in the Ministry of the church here now so you've obviously been there are now so you've obviously been there are now so you've obviously been there are you know quite a long time and you know you know quite a long time and you know you know quite a long time and you know a big part of of leading is translating

a big part of of leading is translating a big part of of leading is translating that dream into other getting other that dream into other getting other that dream into other getting other people to kind of join in to you know people to kind of join in to you know people to kind of join in to you know say hey we want to be a part of that and say hey we want to be a part of that and say hey we want to be a part of that and I'm assuming in your role that's a lot I'm assuming in your role that's a lot I'm assuming in your role that's a lot of times in that kind of associate of times in that kind of associate of times in that kind of associate pastor or executive pastor roll a big pastor or executive pastor roll a big pastor or executive pastor roll a big part of what that is it's kind of where part of what that is it's kind of where part of what that is it's kind of where does the dream hit reality how are we does the dream hit reality how are we does the dream hit reality how are we actually making this happen is that been actually making this happen is that been actually making this happen is that been a bit of your journey you know Steve a bit of your journey you know Steve a bit of your journey you know Steve Davis our lead pastor he's the visionary Davis our lead pastor he's the visionary Davis our lead pastor he's the visionary and he's the one that cast a vision and he's the one that cast a vision and he's the one that cast a vision injury he dreams in the dreams can I injury he dreams in the dreams can I injury he dreams in the dreams can I guess my job is more helping out with a guess my job is more helping out with a guess my job is more helping out with a day-to-day operations and staff day-to-day operations and staff day-to-day operations and staff oversight we've got a ministry resident oversight we've got a ministry resident oversight we've got a ministry resident program we're just starting I'll be program we're just starting I'll be program we're just starting I'll be supervising those guys when I told you I supervising those guys when I told you I supervising those guys when I told you I was living the dream I'm from North was living the dream I'm from North was living the dream I'm from North Augusta this in my hometown but I left Augusta this in my hometown but I left Augusta this in my hometown but I left here I was a coach in the public school here I was a coach in the public school here I was a coach in the public school system okay that was my first career and system okay that was my first career and system okay that was my first career and I felt called to go to the ministry and I felt called to go to the ministry and I felt called to go to the ministry and went to Fort Worth Texas Southwestern went to Fort Worth Texas Southwestern went to Fort Worth Texas Southwestern seminary back in 1986 and you know when seminary back in 1986 and you know when seminary back in 1986 and you know when I left here my wife and I both from here I left here my wife and I both from here I left here my wife and I both from here when we left here we thought you know I when we left here we thought you know I when we left here we thought you know I guess when ever live here again you know guess when ever live here again you know guess when ever live here again you know you never go back to your hometown right you never go back to your hometown right you never go back to your hometown right the church I mean who does that right in the church I mean who does that right in the church I mean who does that right in fact having said that I remember years fact having said that I remember years fact having said that I remember years ago reading an article that Tony Campolo ago reading an article that Tony Campolo ago reading an article that Tony Campolo wrote that it's kind of a precursor to wrote that it's kind of a precursor to wrote that it's kind of a precursor to your podcast he had an article called a your podcast he had an article called a your podcast he had an article called a thing they didn't teach you in simony thing they didn't teach you in simony thing they didn't teach you in simony ice yeah yeah great and one of the ice yeah yeah great and one of the ice yeah yeah great and one of the things he talked about was for some things he talked about was for some things he talked about was for some reason we had this impression that when reason we had this impression that when reason we had this impression that when you leave to go to you leave to go to you leave to go to the ministry go to seminary Bible the ministry go to seminary Bible the ministry go to seminary Bible College whatever you have to go to College whatever you have to go to College whatever you have to go to somewhere some of the location in order somewhere some of the location in order somewhere some of the location in order to do ministry and composer said why

to do ministry and composer said why to do ministry and composer said why don't you go right back to where you don't you go right back to where you don't you go right back to where you grew up you already have a network of grew up you already have a network of grew up you already have a network of friends you've got family days you've friends you've got family days you've friends you've got family days you've got relationships there because you know got relationships there because you know got relationships there because you know as well as I do when you go to a new as well as I do when you go to a new as well as I do when you go to a new town it takes you years to develop town it takes you years to develop town it takes you years to develop relationships why not go back to your relationships why not go back to your relationships why not go back to your hometown where you already know hometown where you already know hometown where you already know everybody yes it sure how that's kind of everybody yes it sure how that's kind of everybody yes it sure how that's kind of my story I did that it took a lot to do my story I did that it took a lot to do my story I did that it took a lot to do that but for us to come full circle back that but for us to come full circle back that but for us to come full circle back to where we grew up and and I dreamed of to where we grew up and and I dreamed of to where we grew up and and I dreamed of seeing a church a contemporary-style seeing a church a contemporary-style seeing a church a contemporary-style church like true north like I said even church like true north like I said even church like true north like I said even from my seminary days now with Steve from my seminary days now with Steve from my seminary days now with Steve gave us a few from that area as well was gave us a few from that area as well was gave us a few from that area as well was he from divas actually from Illinois ok he from divas actually from Illinois ok he from divas actually from Illinois ok interesting God use the Illinois boy interesting God use the Illinois boy interesting God use the Illinois boy brought him to South Carolina he was on brought him to South Carolina he was on brought him to South Carolina he was on staff at a local church here he saw need staff at a local church here he saw need staff at a local church here he saw need for this style of ministry and he for this style of ministry and he for this style of ministry and he stepped out in faith and started it he stepped out in faith and started it he stepped out in faith and started it he and I had a mutual friend and I the and I had a mutual friend and I the and I had a mutual friend and I the mutual friend suggested that we get mutual friend suggested that we get mutual friend suggested that we get together because our mutual friend knew together because our mutual friend knew together because our mutual friend knew me he need my heart and my dream for a me he need my heart and my dream for a me he need my heart and my dream for a church like this in north augusta and up church like this in north augusta and up church like this in north augusta and up so Steven I kind of got together and we so Steven I kind of got together and we so Steven I kind of got together and we talked about it and about a year and a talked about it and about a year and a talked about it and about a year and a half into it true north is growing went half into it true north is growing went half into it true north is growing went crazy and Steve caught up and so now you crazy and Steve caught up and so now you crazy and Steve caught up and so now you want to come help and just kind of want to come help and just kind of want to come help and just kind of no-brainer for me very cool very good no-brainer for me very cool very good no-brainer for me very cool very good right for that one yeah that's cool you right for that one yeah that's cool you right for that one yeah that's cool you know a lot of times you run into church know a lot of times you run into church know a lot of times you run into church leaders who in you know thriving leaders who in you know thriving leaders who in you know thriving churches that are growing like yours churches that are growing like yours churches that are growing like yours where there is a strong you know leader where there is a strong you know leader where there is a strong you know leader within it who is from that community and within it who is from that community and within it who is from that community and I think that is a you know that's a good I think that is a you know that's a good I think that is a you know that's a good thing to kind of ready to keep in mind thing to kind of ready to keep in mind thing to kind of ready to keep in mind particularly for tricks planners or

particularly for tricks planners or particularly for tricks planners or people that are you know thinking about people that are you know thinking about people that are you know thinking about you know starting out you know for sure you know starting out you know for sure you know starting out you know for sure that's you know that's really cool now I that's you know that's really cool now I that's you know that's really cool now I would imagine that you're you know phase would imagine that you're you know phase would imagine that you're you know phase of growth as a church you know thinking of growth as a church you know thinking of growth as a church you know thinking about the next generation is you know about the next generation is you know about the next generation is you know really is a big deal you know trying to really is a big deal you know trying to really is a big deal you know trying to wrestle through how do you engage the wrestle through how do you engage the wrestle through how do you engage the next generation to really take the next generation to really take the next generation to really take the ministry on and run with it what's that ministry on and run with it what's that ministry on and run with it what's that look like for true north how are you look like for true north how are you look like for true north how are you kind of doing that at you know at the kind of doing that at you know at the kind of doing that at you know at the church well this is a good timing church well this is a good timing church well this is a good timing because we're going we're quite now because we're going we're quite now because we're going we're quite now we're at two services we're packing out we're at two services we're packing out we're at two services we're packing out to services actually to services actually to services actually sunday will be starting a five o'clock sunday will be starting a five o'clock sunday will be starting a five o'clock service on Sunday afternoon what kinda service on Sunday afternoon what kinda service on Sunday afternoon what kinda it's going to be identical to the it's going to be identical to the it's going to be identical to the morning services but we're going to morning services but we're going to morning services but we're going to treat a different environment so be treat a different environment so be treat a different environment so be basically the same on the inside but on basically the same on the inside but on basically the same on the inside but on the outside of the auditorium outside the outside of the auditorium outside the outside of the auditorium outside them the building we're going to have them the building we're going to have them the building we're going to have coffee bars and food trucks just fire coffee bars and food trucks just fire coffee bars and food trucks just fire pits and some cool things that we hope pits and some cool things that we hope pits and some cool things that we hope will attract that age group so we're will attract that age group so we're will attract that age group so we're intentionally doing that right now as intentionally doing that right now as intentionally doing that right now as well as I mentioned earlier this well as I mentioned earlier this well as I mentioned earlier this ministry resident program we've got two ministry resident program we've got two ministry resident program we've got two young men just like kind of paid young men just like kind of paid young men just like kind of paid internships if you will that we're internships if you will that we're internships if you will that we're working with those guys and we're just working with those guys and we're just working with those guys and we're just we're being more deliberate now than we're being more deliberate now than we're being more deliberate now than ever we're trying to groom and train the ever we're trying to groom and train the ever we're trying to groom and train the next generation because I'm 55 years old next generation because I'm 55 years old next generation because I'm 55 years old Steve's a few years behind me you know Steve's a few years behind me you know Steve's a few years behind me you know hopefully we got a time left but we also hopefully we got a time left but we also hopefully we got a time left but we also know we've got to pass the torch yeah I know we've got to pass the torch yeah I know we've got to pass the torch yeah I was trying to get ourselves in position was trying to get ourselves in position was trying to get ourselves in position right now to pass the torch to the next right now to pass the torch to the next right now to pass the torch to the next generation now give me a sense of that

generation now give me a sense of that generation now give me a sense of that ministry ministry residency program what ministry ministry residency program what ministry ministry residency program what are those kind of those guys engaged in are those kind of those guys engaged in are those kind of those guys engaged in or what will they be engaged in how does or what will they be engaged in how does or what will they be engaged in how does that house that sister yeah they're kind that house that sister yeah they're kind that house that sister yeah they're kind of I guess I'm kind of like part-time of I guess I'm kind of like part-time of I guess I'm kind of like part-time staff but we've created a monthly staff but we've created a monthly staff but we've created a monthly syllabus for these guys I'm giving them syllabus for these guys I'm giving them syllabus for these guys I'm giving them your reading assignments every month your reading assignments every month your reading assignments every month video assignments videos for them to video assignments videos for them to video assignments videos for them to watch and teaching and it's from watch and teaching and it's from watch and teaching and it's from practical assignments where they will be practical assignments where they will be practical assignments where they will be a part of a certain ministry or event a part of a certain ministry or event a part of a certain ministry or event each month they'll attend leadership each month they'll attend leadership each month they'll attend leadership team meetings we want them to get the team meetings we want them to get the team meetings we want them to get the full spectrum everything that we do here full spectrum everything that we do here full spectrum everything that we do here from preschool to celebrate recovery from preschool to celebrate recovery from preschool to celebrate recovery everything we do we won't then be have everything we do we won't then be have everything we do we won't then be have kind of their seniors or being hands kind of their seniors or being hands kind of their seniors or being hands involved in a little bit of everything involved in a little bit of everything involved in a little bit of everything we do throughout the year very cool we do throughout the year very cool we do throughout the year very cool that's cool and there how did you find that's cool and there how did you find that's cool and there how did you find these these are the internal folks for these these are the internal folks for these these are the internal folks for the internal it surround sound that's the internal it surround sound that's the internal it surround sound that's cool yeah internal guys and so there are cool yeah internal guys and so there are cool yeah internal guys and so there are is the intention I guess it's early days is the intention I guess it's early days is the intention I guess it's early days but is the thought that you know this but is the thought that you know this but is the thought that you know this may be a way to kind of find new staff may be a way to kind of find new staff may be a way to kind of find new staff training staff or is it thought because training staff or is it thought because training staff or is it thought because I know some people do these residency I know some people do these residency I know some people do these residency programs explicitly to say hey we're programs explicitly to say hey we're programs explicitly to say hey we're going to kind of send these folks out we going to kind of send these folks out we going to kind of send these folks out we intend they're going to go plant intend they're going to go plant intend they're going to go plant somewhere else or something like that somewhere else or something like that somewhere else or something like that right yeah this point is either either right yeah this point is either either right yeah this point is either either or they may join us full time in the or they may join us full time in the or they may join us full time in the future or we may send them out of the future or we may send them out of the future or we may send them out of the mega joined another Church staffs mega joined another Church staffs mega joined another Church staffs where else very cool very cool well I where else very cool very cool well I where else very cool very cool well I know being a fast-growing church know being a fast-growing church know being a fast-growing church leadership development is a big part of leadership development is a big part of leadership development is a big part of the equation you know continuing to you the equation you know continuing to you the equation you know continuing to you know raise up and you know leaders what know raise up and you know leaders what know raise up and you know leaders what does that look like for you at true does that look like for you at true does that look like for you at true north you know I think I'd be lying if I

north you know I think I'd be lying if I north you know I think I'd be lying if I told you we had a strategic plan for told you we had a strategic plan for told you we had a strategic plan for leadership development right right yeah leadership development right right yeah leadership development right right yeah and it seems like it's getting harder and it seems like it's getting harder and it seems like it's getting harder now just because our staff is growing so now just because our staff is growing so now just because our staff is growing so fast I even we had we have a meeting fast I even we had we have a meeting fast I even we had we have a meeting every tuesday and i remarked to our every tuesday and i remarked to our every tuesday and i remarked to our staff even tuesday when i was starting staff even tuesday when i was starting staff even tuesday when i was starting the meeting off I remember just a few the meeting off I remember just a few the meeting off I remember just a few years ago we can all fit around the years ago we can all fit around the years ago we can all fit around the conference room table right and now it's conference room table right and now it's conference room table right and now it's like 25 of us in a room right and that's like 25 of us in a room right and that's like 25 of us in a room right and that's huge to us and so we're still trying to huge to us and so we're still trying to huge to us and so we're still trying to get to know each other's names yeah get to know each other's names yeah get to know each other's names yeah what--right I know we do know each what--right I know we do know each what--right I know we do know each other's names but as far as they I guess other's names but as far as they I guess other's names but as far as they I guess the strategic disciplined approach to the strategic disciplined approach to the strategic disciplined approach to leadership development development we leadership development development we leadership development development we don't have anything like that other than don't have anything like that other than don't have anything like that other than just you i will say we have an just you i will say we have an just you i will say we have an incredible team we're like a family and incredible team we're like a family and incredible team we're like a family and the staff we just love each other most the staff we just love each other most the staff we just love each other most of us are internal hires and so we of us are internal hires and so we of us are internal hires and so we already kind of knew each other even already kind of knew each other even already kind of knew each other even years before they became staff members years before they became staff members years before they became staff members it's just a great team and we we weren't it's just a great team and we we weren't it's just a great team and we we weren't like a family together very cool why like a family together very cool why like a family together very cool why that's so important it's so critical so that's so important it's so critical so that's so important it's so critical so we're pretty low key and made Steve's we're pretty low key and made Steve's we're pretty low key and made Steve's Steve and I both the pretty laid-back we Steve and I both the pretty laid-back we Steve and I both the pretty laid-back we don't know we like structural you don't don't know we like structural you don't don't know we like structural you don't don't overdo it on structure we just I don't overdo it on structure we just I don't overdo it on structure we just I don't know we just kind of we have that don't know we just kind of we have that don't know we just kind of we have that trust factor we trust each other trust factor we trust each other trust factor we trust each other remember years ago we read that book remember years ago we read that book remember years ago we read that book called the speed of trust oh yeah heavy called the speed of trust oh yeah heavy called the speed of trust oh yeah heavy wrote that and we really read that wrote that and we really read that wrote that and we really read that together as a staff and talked about together as a staff and talked about together as a staff and talked about that I really feel like the speed of that I really feel like the speed of that I really feel like the speed of trust works for us and we do each other trust works for us and we do each other trust works for us and we do each other accountable of course and all that the

accountable of course and all that the accountable of course and all that the leadership development is just kind of leadership development is just kind of leadership development is just kind of we doing it together as a group as a we doing it together as a group as a we doing it together as a group as a team you know as a family mmm very cool team you know as a family mmm very cool team you know as a family mmm very cool well what would you say it is that the well what would you say it is that the well what would you say it is that the Lord's using to grow true north what is Lord's using to grow true north what is Lord's using to grow true north what is the thing that he seems to be or you the thing that he seems to be or you the thing that he seems to be or you know the collection of things I know it know the collection of things I know it know the collection of things I know it can be hard to kind of nail down can be hard to kind of nail down can be hard to kind of nail down sometimes so what would you be think sometimes so what would you be think sometimes so what would you be think those things would might be yeah and it those things would might be yeah and it those things would might be yeah and it obviously is the Lord this place was obviously is the Lord this place was obviously is the Lord this place was ready this area was ready for that ready this area was ready for that ready this area was ready for that in the Augusta Georgia area we're right in the Augusta Georgia area we're right in the Augusta Georgia area we're right on the state line in fact I can see the on the state line in fact I can see the on the state line in fact I can see the trees of Georgia from the front porch of trees of Georgia from the front porch of trees of Georgia from the front porch of my house we're right here on the state my house we're right here on the state my house we're right here on the state line yeah and Augusta Georgia is known line yeah and Augusta Georgia is known line yeah and Augusta Georgia is known for three things the masters golf for three things the masters golf for three things the masters golf tournament and the birthplace of James tournament and the birthplace of James tournament and the birthplace of James Brown and the birthplace of the Southern Brown and the birthplace of the Southern Brown and the birthplace of the Southern Baptist Convention great but most people Baptist Convention great but most people Baptist Convention great but most people don't know the third thing they don't don't know the third thing they don't don't know the third thing they don't care about so famished convention what care about so famished convention what care about so famished convention what there's a lot of Baptist churches around there's a lot of Baptist churches around there's a lot of Baptist churches around here at my point so tons of churches here at my point so tons of churches here at my point so tons of churches obviously we're in the middle of the obviously we're in the middle of the obviously we're in the middle of the Bible Belt but North Augusta was ready Bible Belt but North Augusta was ready Bible Belt but North Augusta was ready for a church with contemporary flavor to for a church with contemporary flavor to for a church with contemporary flavor to it with the style of music we play in it with the style of music we play in it with the style of music we play in the dress code but I'll also say that the dress code but I'll also say that the dress code but I'll also say that Steve our pastor Steve Davis he's the Steve our pastor Steve Davis he's the Steve our pastor Steve Davis he's the most genuine humble man that I'm known most genuine humble man that I'm known most genuine humble man that I'm known and certainly one of those genuine and certainly one of those genuine and certainly one of those genuine pastors nothing and he's just real from pastors nothing and he's just real from pastors nothing and he's just real from the stage people know that people love the stage people know that people love the stage people know that people love his teaching they love his style he's his teaching they love his style he's his teaching they love his style he's not always polished he's great he's a not always polished he's great he's a not always polished he's great he's a vision caster he's a cheerleader he's a vision caster he's a cheerleader he's a vision caster he's a cheerleader he's a Bible teacher and people are just Bible teacher and people are just Bible teacher and people are just attracted to him and he's not AB is not attracted to him and he's not AB is not attracted to him and he's not AB is not about him in fact the Pew Research true

about him in fact the Pew Research true about him in fact the Pew Research true north church I think you'll see his north church I think you'll see his north church I think you'll see his picture on the website with some of the picture on the website with some of the picture on the website with some of the other staff members but he doesn't like other staff members but he doesn't like other staff members but he doesn't like his name out there you know as far as his name out there you know as far as his name out there you know as far as about him and he doesn't a lot of about him and he doesn't a lot of about him and he doesn't a lot of conferences yet written any books and conferences yet written any books and conferences yet written any books and genuine humble authentic God wants to genuine humble authentic God wants to genuine humble authentic God wants to see people know Jesus mmm I really see people know Jesus mmm I really see people know Jesus mmm I really butchered that it has a lot to do with butchered that it has a lot to do with butchered that it has a lot to do with our added to the staff members could we our added to the staff members could we our added to the staff members could we just loving the death and it would be just loving the death and it would be just loving the death and it would be thanked for I think our membership knows thanked for I think our membership knows thanked for I think our membership knows that as well oh it's very true you know that as well oh it's very true you know that as well oh it's very true you know I think a lot of times those internal I think a lot of times those internal I think a lot of times those internal disciplines just our kind of internal disciplines just our kind of internal disciplines just our kind of internal positioning I think I think the Lord positioning I think I think the Lord positioning I think I think the Lord sees a heart like guys like hey I want I sees a heart like guys like hey I want I sees a heart like guys like hey I want I want a blessin ministry like that want a blessin ministry like that want a blessin ministry like that because it's not that it's not going to because it's not that it's not going to because it's not that it's not going to his head I think there is a you know is his head I think there is a you know is his head I think there is a you know is a connection between those two for sure a connection between those two for sure a connection between those two for sure what does anything else you want to what does anything else you want to what does anything else you want to share before we jump on with the rest of share before we jump on with the rest of share before we jump on with the rest of the episode you know I mentioned living the episode you know I mentioned living the episode you know I mentioned living the dream and I think we talked about it the dream and I think we talked about it the dream and I think we talked about it briefly my job right now or my challenge briefly my job right now or my challenge briefly my job right now or my challenge right now personally is I've lived my right now personally is I've lived my right now personally is I've lived my dream I'm living my dream and now I want dream I'm living my dream and now I want dream I'm living my dream and now I want to learn how to translate that dream to to learn how to translate that dream to to learn how to translate that dream to the inner generation I want them to the inner generation I want them to the inner generation I want them to develop their dream church and so hope develop their dream church and so hope develop their dream church and so hope we will be able to do that here in my we will be able to do that here in my we will be able to do that here in my the next 10 to 20 years whatever time the next 10 to 20 years whatever time the next 10 to 20 years whatever time I've got lifted ministry I've been doing I've got lifted ministry I've been doing I've got lifted ministry I've been doing this 30 years so yes just not letting to this 30 years so yes just not letting to this 30 years so yes just not letting to stop with my dream and let that dream stop with my dream and let that dream stop with my dream and let that dream continue with the next generation what continue with the next generation what continue with the next generation what does that look like how are you doing does that look like how are you doing does that look like how are you doing that what are you doing what kind of that what are you doing what kind of that what are you doing what kind of steps are you taking to try to help that steps are you taking to try to help that steps are you taking to try to help that next generation articulate their dream next generation articulate their dream next generation articulate their dream and live it you know think we're still

and live it you know think we're still and live it you know think we're still trying to figure that out with the five trying to figure that out with the five trying to figure that out with the five I mentioned the service we're doing I mentioned the service we're doing I mentioned the service we're doing probably just focusing and we steve has probably just focusing and we steve has probably just focusing and we steve has been unapologetic telling our membership been unapologetic telling our membership been unapologetic telling our membership that we create our services for that that we create our services for that that we create our services for that generation we have a lot of senior generation we have a lot of senior generation we have a lot of senior adults to come they love Steve they live adults to come they love Steve they live adults to come they love Steve they live our music we pretty much try to target our music we pretty much try to target our music we pretty much try to target that aunt that audience on Sunday that aunt that audience on Sunday that aunt that audience on Sunday mornings with our production with our mornings with our production with our mornings with our production with our music style their videos it's all the music style their videos it's all the music style their videos it's all the things that we do we're just trying to things that we do we're just trying to things that we do we're just trying to be intentional about meeting that be intentional about meeting that be intentional about meeting that generation that culture this is the generation that culture this is the generation that culture this is the unset Maneri podcast stuff you wish they unset Maneri podcast stuff you wish they unset Maneri podcast stuff you wish they taught in seminary we're going to jump taught in seminary we're going to jump taught in seminary we're going to jump into the lightning round that part of into the lightning round that part of into the lightning round that part of the episode where we ask similar the episode where we ask similar the episode where we ask similar questions everybody that's on the show questions everybody that's on the show questions everybody that's on the show super excited to have Jean Jennings with super excited to have Jean Jennings with super excited to have Jean Jennings with us today from True North search a great us today from True North search a great us today from True North search a great great church gene what's an online great church gene what's an online great church gene what's an online resource you're using these days that's resource you're using these days that's resource you're using these days that's helping you out well you know it's not helping you out well you know it's not helping you out well you know it's not skype so we use slack a lot oh yeah skype so we use slack a lot oh yeah skype so we use slack a lot oh yeah that's like slack as a staff that's like slack as a staff that's like slack as a staff communication to I use Evernote communication to I use Evernote communication to I use Evernote personally and I'm on Twitter a lot I personally and I'm on Twitter a lot I personally and I'm on Twitter a lot I don't facebook a lot but i'm on twitter don't facebook a lot but i'm on twitter don't facebook a lot but i'm on twitter a good bit nice very gets like the great a good bit nice very gets like the great a good bit nice very gets like the great communication tool yeah i haven't communication tool yeah i haven't communication tool yeah i haven't checked it out you really really should checked it out you really really should checked it out you really really should for sure definitely yeah what's a book for sure definitely yeah what's a book for sure definitely yeah what's a book you've read in the last I don't know you've read in the last I don't know you've read in the last I don't know maybe six months to a year that's maybe six months to a year that's maybe six months to a year that's shaping your thinking and ministry you shaping your thinking and ministry you shaping your thinking and ministry you know I'm always in several books I had a know I'm always in several books I had a know I'm always in several books I had a professional seminary said you should be professional seminary said you should be professional seminary said you should be reading least six books at the same time reading least six books at the same time reading least six books at the same time and I kind of I tend to do that but as and I kind of I tend to do that but as and I kind of I tend to do that but as far as leadership I'm actually reading a far as leadership I'm actually reading a far as leadership I'm actually reading a book that I heard you talk about

book that I heard you talk about book that I heard you talk about recently destined to lead or denote recently destined to lead or denote recently destined to lead or denote design delete design design delete so I design delete design design delete so I design delete design design delete so I hear my desk your design delete are just hear my desk your design delete are just hear my desk your design delete are just diving into that one I read a lot of diving into that one I read a lot of diving into that one I read a lot of stuff just on my relationship Christ and stuff just on my relationship Christ and stuff just on my relationship Christ and spiritual walk up I recently poured out spiritual walk up I recently poured out spiritual walk up I recently poured out book called the key to book called the key to book called the key to triumphant living which is old classic triumphant living which is old classic triumphant living which is old classic Jack Taylor I just really believe that Jack Taylor I just really believe that Jack Taylor I just really believe that if i can continue living in Christ and if i can continue living in Christ and if i can continue living in Christ and and bearing the fruit of the spirit that and bearing the fruit of the spirit that and bearing the fruit of the spirit that then I'm going to be a good leader I then I'm going to be a good leader I then I'm going to be a good leader I think if you got love joy peace patience think if you got love joy peace patience think if you got love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness kindness goodness faithfulness kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness self-control in you you can't gentleness self-control in you you can't gentleness self-control in you you can't lose mmm it's that I tend to focus a lot lose mmm it's that I tend to focus a lot lose mmm it's that I tend to focus a lot just on my spiritual walk I don't read just on my spiritual walk I don't read just on my spiritual walk I don't read leadership but now I get that obviously leadership but now I get that obviously leadership but now I get that obviously but i don't know i read a lot of stuff but i don't know i read a lot of stuff but i don't know i read a lot of stuff but those are probably too that it most but those are probably too that it most but those are probably too that it most recent yeah very cool Perry what's in a recent yeah very cool Perry what's in a recent yeah very cool Perry what's in a ministry you're looking to that kind of ministry you're looking to that kind of ministry you're looking to that kind of inspires you you know compassion inspires you you know compassion inspires you you know compassion international environment a sec here I international environment a sec here I international environment a sec here I love what they do we've been sponsoring love what they do we've been sponsoring love what they do we've been sponsoring kids and being a part of compassion for kids and being a part of compassion for kids and being a part of compassion for over 30 years I don't think my wife and over 30 years I don't think my wife and over 30 years I don't think my wife and I always sponsoring kids I've been on a I always sponsoring kids I've been on a I always sponsoring kids I've been on a couple of compassion trips I just love couple of compassion trips I just love couple of compassion trips I just love how they work with local churches and how they work with local churches and how they work with local churches and how they're they're reaching people in how they're they're reaching people in how they're they're reaching people in some impoverished places with the gospel some impoverished places with the gospel some impoverished places with the gospel of Jesus very cool very cool yeah of Jesus very cool very cool yeah of Jesus very cool very cool yeah Compassion's amazing day if you haven't Compassion's amazing day if you haven't Compassion's amazing day if you haven't you know I be surprised if there's a you know I be surprised if there's a you know I be surprised if there's a pastor that hasn't heard of compassion pastor that hasn't heard of compassion pastor that hasn't heard of compassion international but you haven't checked

international but you haven't checked international but you haven't checked them out look closely at them they're them out look closely at them they're them out look closely at them they're they're an amazing ministries some great they're an amazing ministries some great they're an amazing ministries some great work around the world if you could get work around the world if you could get work around the world if you could get 15 minutes with any leader alive who 15 minutes with any leader alive who 15 minutes with any leader alive who would you want to get that with and why would you want to get that with and why would you want to get that with and why you know I thought about that i think you know I thought about that i think you know I thought about that i think i've always thought it'd be interesting i've always thought it'd be interesting i've always thought it'd be interesting totally george w bush because you know totally george w bush because you know totally george w bush because you know he was less than nine months into his he was less than nine months into his he was less than nine months into his presidency and then 911 happened right presidency and then 911 happened right presidency and then 911 happened right he never was able to fulfill his agenda he never was able to fulfill his agenda he never was able to fulfill his agenda his entire perspective obviously changed his entire perspective obviously changed his entire perspective obviously changed and not sure if here we got enough and not sure if here we got enough and not sure if here we got enough credit for that but i'd like to talk to credit for that but i'd like to talk to credit for that but i'd like to talk to him about how he went through that him about how he went through that him about how he went through that transition from running for presidency transition from running for presidency transition from running for presidency to winning that you know having this big to winning that you know having this big to winning that you know having this big agenda set out that he was going to do agenda set out that he was going to do agenda set out that he was going to do for the country and all of a sudden the for the country and all of a sudden the for the country and all of a sudden the world literally changed that day that's world literally changed that day that's world literally changed that day that's amazing you know that's a good pretense amazing you know that's a good pretense amazing you know that's a good pretense a good perspective for sure you know a good perspective for sure you know a good perspective for sure you know things did change so quickly for him you things did change so quickly for him you things did change so quickly for him you know overnight for sure yeah well I know know overnight for sure yeah well I know know overnight for sure yeah well I know being an associate pastor at church like being an associate pastor at church like being an associate pastor at church like your North can take a lot and you know your North can take a lot and you know your North can take a lot and you know what do you do just for fun we just want what do you do just for fun we just want what do you do just for fun we just want to kind of kick back relax enjoy to kind of kick back relax enjoy to kind of kick back relax enjoy a little bit set well it's kind of nerdy a little bit set well it's kind of nerdy a little bit set well it's kind of nerdy but um I follow the financial markets a but um I follow the financial markets a but um I follow the financial markets a lot actually swing trade options really lot actually swing trade options really lot actually swing trade options really yeah I'm learning how to try to make yeah I'm learning how to try to make yeah I'm learning how to try to make money as an option trader on the side money as an option trader on the side money as an option trader on the side interesting I spend a lot of my time at interesting I spend a lot of my time at interesting I spend a lot of my time at night reading watching webinars and not night reading watching webinars and not night reading watching webinars and not just from own self I want to teach other just from own self I want to teach other just from own self I want to teach other people how to do it as well each so I'm people how to do it as well each so I'm people how to do it as well each so I'm fat I'm fascinated with the stock market fat I'm fascinated with the stock market fat I'm fascinated with the stock market is specifically a discipline called

is specifically a discipline called is specifically a discipline called technical analysis I spent a lot of time technical analysis I spent a lot of time technical analysis I spent a lot of time learning about how to read stock charts learning about how to read stock charts learning about how to read stock charts and stuff oh very cool what yeah you're and stuff oh very cool what yeah you're and stuff oh very cool what yeah you're the first person and we're probably 190 the first person and we're probably 190 the first person and we're probably 190 episodes that has said swing trade episodes that has said swing trade episodes that has said swing trade options that's all I thought all my options that's all I thought all my options that's all I thought all my walks a lot of bike riders the first walks a lot of bike riders the first walks a lot of bike riders the first swing trade option you know I do have a swing trade option you know I do have a swing trade option you know I do have a great wife and two grandkids on the side great wife and two grandkids on the side great wife and two grandkids on the side yes that's great no this has been great yes that's great no this has been great yes that's great no this has been great Jean I it's been fun getting a chance to Jean I it's been fun getting a chance to Jean I it's been fun getting a chance to connect today if people want to get in connect today if people want to get in connect today if people want to get in touch with the church or with you how touch with the church or with you how touch with the church or with you how can they do that we're at true north can they do that we're at true north can they do that we're at true north church calm and I think my email address church calm and I think my email address church calm and I think my email address is on there i'm on twitter at gene is on there i'm on twitter at gene is on there i'm on twitter at gene jennings that's where you're going to jennings that's where you're going to jennings that's where you're going to find me most of the time but yeah that's find me most of the time but yeah that's find me most of the time but yeah that's us Pro Tour a wonderful appreciate me on us Pro Tour a wonderful appreciate me on us Pro Tour a wonderful appreciate me on the show today gene have a great weekend the show today gene have a great weekend the show today gene have a great weekend alright thank you rich thank you for alright thank you rich thank you for alright thank you rich thank you for tuning in to this week's unsung re tuning in to this week's unsung re tuning in to this week's unsung re podcast don't be shy we'd love to podcast don't be shy we'd love to podcast don't be shy we'd love to connect check out on seminary in box you connect check out on seminary in box you connect check out on seminary in box you can sign up at unsummon re calm and can sign up at unsummon re calm and can sign up at unsummon re calm and we'll send you helpful training we'll send you helpful training we'll send you helpful training resources every week plus you'll gain resources every week plus you'll gain resources every week plus you'll gain immediate access to our exclusive immediate access to our exclusive immediate access to our exclusive members area with tons of resources you members area with tons of resources you members area with tons of resources you can use connect with rich on twitter at can use connect with rich on twitter at can use connect with rich on twitter at rich birch or through email rich a ton rich birch or through email rich a ton rich birch or through email rich a ton seminary calm don't forget to check out seminary calm don't forget to check out seminary calm don't forget to check out the show notes for this episode a ton the show notes for this episode a ton the show notes for this episode a ton seminary calm it includes links to what seminary calm it includes links to what seminary calm it includes links to what we talked about today and more leave a we talked about today and more leave a we talked about today and more leave a comment we'd love to hear from you did comment we'd love to hear from you did comment we'd love to hear from you did you enjoy JS up so drop by itunes and you enjoy JS up so drop by itunes and you enjoy JS up so drop by itunes and leave a review thanks again for tuning leave a review thanks again for tuning leave a review thanks again for tuning in to this week's unsung re podcast join

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