Clayton Walker on Reaching Unchurched Millennials

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correct locations if I'm correct clay why don't you tell us a little bit clay why don't you tell us a little bit clay why don't you tell us a little bit about your role there at experienced about your role there at experienced about your role there at experienced life sure I'm the executive pastor and life sure I'm the executive pastor and life sure I'm the executive pastor and so I oversee our campuses and ministries so I oversee our campuses and ministries so I oversee our campuses and ministries and then one of those campuses is a and then one of those campuses is a and then one of those campuses is a campus we started on the college Texas campus we started on the college Texas campus we started on the college Texas Tech University on the college campus Tech University on the college campus Tech University on the college campus that we call Raider Church and so I that we call Raider Church and so I that we call Raider Church and so I actually speak at that each week and so actually speak at that each week and so actually speak at that each week and so I'm one of our teaching pastors too it's I'm one of our teaching pastors too it's I'm one of our teaching pastors too it's very good my daughter's high school are very good my daughter's high school are very good my daughter's high school are the Raiders and so appreciate that she the Raiders and so appreciate that she the Raiders and so appreciate that she probably loved to go to Raider yeah you probably loved to go to Raider yeah you probably loved to go to Raider yeah you know Raider church for sure so that's know Raider church for sure so that's know Raider church for sure so that's that's great well you know even just that's great well you know even just that's great well you know even just that that's a great kind of entree into that that's a great kind of entree into that that's a great kind of entree into you know as a casual observer first of you know as a casual observer first of you know as a casual observer first of all if you're listening in and you're all if you're listening in and you're all if you're listening in and you're not following experience life you need not following experience life you need not following experience life you need to this is a great church innovative

to this is a great church innovative to this is a great church innovative church doing all kinds of very church doing all kinds of very church doing all kinds of very interesting things and I'm hoping we'll interesting things and I'm hoping we'll interesting things and I'm hoping we'll get to dig into some of it today but as get to dig into some of it today but as get to dig into some of it today but as a casual observer you know one of the a casual observer you know one of the a casual observer you know one of the things I'd noticed is you do seem to things I'd noticed is you do seem to things I'd noticed is you do seem to have not only a focus but then also an have not only a focus but then also an have not only a focus but then also an ability to actually reach the next ability to actually reach the next ability to actually reach the next generation and I'd love to talk about generation and I'd love to talk about generation and I'd love to talk about that a little bit today what are you that a little bit today what are you that a little bit today what are you learning on that front as you kind of learning on that front as you kind of learning on that front as you kind of think about reaching out into this next think about reaching out into this next think about reaching out into this next generation sure well one of the things generation sure well one of the things generation sure well one of the things that's been really unique and it's also that's been really unique and it's also that's been really unique and it's also brings its own set of challenges is that brings its own set of challenges is that brings its own set of challenges is that the average age at our church is 30 the average age at our church is 30 the average age at our church is 30 years old and that's not accounting most years old and that's not accounting most years old and that's not accounting most of our kids ministry right and so that of our kids ministry right and so that of our kids ministry right and so that brings a unique set of circumstances brings a unique set of circumstances brings a unique set of circumstances it's fun it does allow us to be you know it's fun it does allow us to be you know it's fun it does allow us to be you know innovative and things like innovative and things like innovative and things like but I'm sure as you can imagine you know but I'm sure as you can imagine you know but I'm sure as you can imagine you know when you're reaching that young of a when you're reaching that young of a when you're reaching that young of a crowd it brings its own set of crowd it brings its own set of crowd it brings its own set of circumstances and challenges so it's not circumstances and challenges so it's not circumstances and challenges so it's not all you know roses just we're reaching all you know roses just we're reaching all you know roses just we're reaching that kind of crowd we're also reaching a that kind of crowd we're also reaching a that kind of crowd we're also reaching a group where over sixty percent of them group where over sixty percent of them group where over sixty percent of them have said that they weren't involved in have said that they weren't involved in have said that they weren't involved in a church before coming to experience a church before coming to experience a church before coming to experience life and so it's a very unchurched group life and so it's a very unchurched group life and so it's a very unchurched group it's a very young group and which again it's a very young group and which again it's a very young group and which again brings with it its own set of Jeff I brings with it its own set of Jeff I brings with it its own set of Jeff I think I would imagine a lot of church think I would imagine a lot of church think I would imagine a lot of church leaders are listening in today saying leaders are listening in today saying leaders are listening in today saying WOW like that would be great but that's WOW like that would be great but that's WOW like that would be great but that's got some gold-plated problems attached got some gold-plated problems attached got some gold-plated problems attached to it I'd imagine it's no doubt it's to it I'd imagine it's no doubt it's to it I'd imagine it's no doubt it's very exciting it's fun to be around that very exciting it's fun to be around that very exciting it's fun to be around that kind of life change yeah but yeah when kind of life change yeah but yeah when kind of life change yeah but yeah when it comes to raising up new leaders it comes to raising up new leaders it comes to raising up new leaders having leaders that are ready you know having leaders that are ready you know having leaders that are ready you know things like giving small group leaders

things like giving small group leaders things like giving small group leaders just all those kinds of things become a just all those kinds of things become a just all those kinds of things become a challenge you know when you've reached challenge you know when you've reached challenge you know when you've reached that large of a percentage of unchurched that large of a percentage of unchurched that large of a percentage of unchurched people and that are also that young you people and that are also that young you people and that are also that young you know we've had I think it was like 33 know we've had I think it was like 33 know we've had I think it was like 33 percent of our people have committed percent of our people have committed percent of our people have committed their life to Jesus at experienced life their life to Jesus at experienced life their life to Jesus at experienced life once so again that's a lot of fun and once so again that's a lot of fun and once so again that's a lot of fun and it's you know it's exciting to be around it's you know it's exciting to be around it's you know it's exciting to be around and it's been you know a constant and it's been you know a constant and it's been you know a constant evaluation of okay what are we doing evaluation of okay what are we doing evaluation of okay what are we doing what's our mission and what do we need what's our mission and what do we need what's our mission and what do we need to do in order to reach those who are to do in order to reach those who are to do in order to reach those who are far from God reach those who don't have far from God reach those who don't have far from God reach those who don't have a relationship with Jesus and so a relationship with Jesus and so a relationship with Jesus and so whenever we're faced with something you whenever we're faced with something you whenever we're faced with something you know that we need to do or we feel like know that we need to do or we feel like know that we need to do or we feel like we need to change you know in order to we need to change you know in order to we need to change you know in order to reach that crowd we begin to do that and reach that crowd we begin to do that and reach that crowd we begin to do that and I really think that starts with prayer I really think that starts with prayer I really think that starts with prayer we have a big commitment to prayer that we have a big commitment to prayer that we have a big commitment to prayer that experience like we have a prayer experience like we have a prayer experience like we have a prayer gathering you're in the middle of the gathering you're in the middle of the gathering you're in the middle of the week we have a staff prayer time during week we have a staff prayer time during week we have a staff prayer time during every single week where our staff comes every single week where our staff comes every single week where our staff comes together to pray so in a given week together to pray so in a given week together to pray so in a given week we'll have hundreds of people coming we'll have hundreds of people coming we'll have hundreds of people coming together to pray because each campus has together to pray because each campus has together to pray because each campus has a prayer gathering where they come and a prayer gathering where they come and a prayer gathering where they come and so we pray and we really feel like so we pray and we really feel like so we pray and we really feel like that's important because we want to hear that's important because we want to hear that's important because we want to hear from God from God from God about the people that he's calling us to about the people that he's calling us to about the people that he's calling us to reach and what we need to do in order to reach and what we need to do in order to reach and what we need to do in order to go reach go reach go reach those people and so is ready that sounds those people and so is ready that sounds those people and so is ready that sounds amazing so um pretty incredible I think amazing so um pretty incredible I think amazing so um pretty incredible I think some people might be listening and some people might be listening and some people might be listening and saying you know the of course he's gonna saying you know the of course he's gonna saying you know the of course he's gonna say that you got to pray why don't you

say that you got to pray why don't you say that you got to pray why don't you give us a sense of what happens at those give us a sense of what happens at those give us a sense of what happens at those prayer meetings kind of dive in a little prayer meetings kind of dive in a little prayer meetings kind of dive in a little bit and then you know how is it that you bit and then you know how is it that you bit and then you know how is it that you know yeah what is it that is happening know yeah what is it that is happening know yeah what is it that is happening at those events sure uh you know when we at those events sure uh you know when we at those events sure uh you know when we come together to pray I think a lot of come together to pray I think a lot of come together to pray I think a lot of people have an idea of a prayer people have an idea of a prayer people have an idea of a prayer gathering you know especially if they're gathering you know especially if they're gathering you know especially if they're younger growing up and it's boring and younger growing up and it's boring and younger growing up and it's boring and you know it's something they don't you know it's something they don't you know it's something they don't really want to go to but you know when really want to go to but you know when really want to go to but you know when we come together to pray it's fun it's we come together to pray it's fun it's we come together to pray it's fun it's exciting we have worship we have our exciting we have worship we have our exciting we have worship we have our campus pastors lead that time and we're campus pastors lead that time and we're campus pastors lead that time and we're praying about things that we're doing as praying about things that we're doing as praying about things that we're doing as a church we pray about the messages in a church we pray about the messages in a church we pray about the messages in the series that we're in and being the series that we're in and being the series that we're in and being obedient to the things that we're obedient to the things that we're obedient to the things that we're hearing we pray for people who are hearing we pray for people who are hearing we pray for people who are struggling we have teams of people that struggling we have teams of people that struggling we have teams of people that are available during those services to are available during those services to are available during those services to pray with people who are struggling with pray with people who are struggling with pray with people who are struggling with any kind of life circumstance and then any kind of life circumstance and then any kind of life circumstance and then you know because of the the group that you know because of the the group that you know because of the the group that we've been able to reach we'll have we've been able to reach we'll have we've been able to reach we'll have people you know say hey you know are you people you know say hey you know are you people you know say hey you know are you struggling with this do you have this struggling with this do you have this struggling with this do you have this going on in your life you know stand up going on in your life you know stand up going on in your life you know stand up and let people come and and pray for and let people come and and pray for and let people come and and pray for them and it could seem from the outside them and it could seem from the outside them and it could seem from the outside like to be a very awkward you know thing like to be a very awkward you know thing like to be a very awkward you know thing but I think you probably just have to but I think you probably just have to but I think you probably just have to trust for a church that's reaching this trust for a church that's reaching this trust for a church that's reaching this kind of percentage of unchurched people kind of percentage of unchurched people kind of percentage of unchurched people it's not weird it's not awkward it is it's not weird it's not awkward it is it's not weird it's not awkward it is exciting and we've really seen God just exciting and we've really seen God just exciting and we've really seen God just set the hearts of our people on fire for set the hearts of our people on fire for set the hearts of our people on fire for what he's calling us to do through what he's calling us to do through what he's calling us to do through prayer that's where the passion and prayer that's where the passion and prayer that's where the passion and commitment and you know you know vision commitment and you know you know vision commitment and you know you know vision comes from to reach the unchurched to

comes from to reach the unchurched to comes from to reach the unchurched to reach those who are far from God to be reach those who are far from God to be reach those who are far from God to be obedient to the mission that Jesus has obedient to the mission that Jesus has obedient to the mission that Jesus has given us it comes from that prayer time given us it comes from that prayer time given us it comes from that prayer time very cool now I imagine you know earlier very cool now I imagine you know earlier very cool now I imagine you know earlier you talked about being willing to change you talked about being willing to change you talked about being willing to change and try some new things yeah well you and try some new things yeah well you and try some new things yeah well you know what else if you had to do you know know what else if you had to do you know know what else if you had to do you know or something again that's one of those or something again that's one of those or something again that's one of those things church leaders will say all the things church leaders will say all the things church leaders will say all the time well we got to be willing to try time well we got to be willing to try time well we got to be willing to try stuff right I reach people who you know stuff right I reach people who you know stuff right I reach people who you know no one else is reaching that I'll be no one else is reaching that I'll be no one else is reaching that I'll be willing to do that what no one else is willing to do that what no one else is willing to do that what no one else is doing what are some of those things that doing what are some of those things that doing what are some of those things that experience life has had to do to change experience life has had to do to change experience life has had to do to change to reach people in your concern well to reach people in your concern well to reach people in your concern well when we first started our pastor Pastor when we first started our pastor Pastor when we first started our pastor Pastor Chris Chris Chris ghal honest you know really believed in ghal honest you know really believed in ghal honest you know really believed in a cell church and so we started out as a a cell church and so we started out as a a cell church and so we started out as a church of small group cell groups that church of small group cell groups that church of small group cell groups that we're meeting and we're only going to we're meeting and we're only going to we're meeting and we're only going to worship like once together like once a worship like once together like once a worship like once together like once a month or so and we were really and those month or so and we were really and those month or so and we were really and those are still things that we do we still do are still things that we do we still do are still things that we do we still do groups that you know that follow more of groups that you know that follow more of groups that you know that follow more of a cell church model but when we began to a cell church model but when we began to a cell church model but when we began to meet together it exploded and so we were meet together it exploded and so we were meet together it exploded and so we were kind of faced with this decision okay we kind of faced with this decision okay we kind of faced with this decision okay we had this model you know we had this form had this model you know we had this form had this model you know we had this form that we thought we were really committed that we thought we were really committed that we thought we were really committed to and that we thought God was going to to and that we thought God was going to to and that we thought God was going to use to reach the lost in West Texas it use to reach the lost in West Texas it use to reach the lost in West Texas it didn't work that way right and we had a didn't work that way right and we had a didn't work that way right and we had a choice we could either keep doing what choice we could either keep doing what choice we could either keep doing what we were doing and you know go probably we were doing and you know go probably we were doing and you know go probably much slower and not reach the lost much slower and not reach the lost much slower and not reach the lost because in West Texas people are still because in West Texas people are still because in West Texas people are still willing to come to an event they're willing to come to an event they're willing to come to an event they're still willing to come to a gathering and

still willing to come to a gathering and still willing to come to a gathering and so when we met together it just exploded so when we met together it just exploded so when we met together it just exploded hundreds you know we're coming hundreds you know we're coming hundreds you know we're coming you know with the launch week of our you know with the launch week of our you know with the launch week of our church we had three hundred and church we had three hundred and church we had three hundred and something people come the very first you something people come the very first you something people come the very first you know week and within a year we're over a know week and within a year we're over a know week and within a year we're over a thousand so you know we had this do we thousand so you know we had this do we thousand so you know we had this do we keep meeting each week or do we keep do keep meeting each week or do we keep do keep meeting each week or do we keep do we stay committed to this form this we stay committed to this form this we stay committed to this form this model that we thought God was you know model that we thought God was you know model that we thought God was you know leading us to do well we have something leading us to do well we have something leading us to do well we have something you know we've always gone back to you know we've always gone back to you know we've always gone back to experiencing God Henry Blackaby says you experiencing God Henry Blackaby says you experiencing God Henry Blackaby says you know you look for where God's moving know you look for where God's moving know you look for where God's moving look to where he's working in you join look to where he's working in you join look to where he's working in you join him there him there him there so we see God moving and working in this so we see God moving and working in this so we see God moving and working in this weekend gathering that we really didn't weekend gathering that we really didn't weekend gathering that we really didn't think would work you really believe that think would work you really believe that think would work you really believe that and but it worked me we were seeing the and but it worked me we were seeing the and but it worked me we were seeing the lost come and get saved we're seeing lost come and get saved we're seeing lost come and get saved we're seeing people who didn't go to church anywhere people who didn't go to church anywhere people who didn't go to church anywhere and who hadn't been involved in Church and who hadn't been involved in Church and who hadn't been involved in Church come and so we decided that Jesus didn't come and so we decided that Jesus didn't come and so we decided that Jesus didn't call us to a model he didn't call us to call us to a model he didn't call us to call us to a model he didn't call us to a form in olives to a way of doing a form in olives to a way of doing a form in olives to a way of doing things he called us to make disciples to things he called us to make disciples to things he called us to make disciples to reach the loss to seek and to save the reach the loss to seek and to save the reach the loss to seek and to save the lost just like his passion was and lost just like his passion was and lost just like his passion was and however that happens we're good with it however that happens we're good with it however that happens we're good with it right what whatever way that works right what whatever way that works right what whatever way that works that's the right way that's the right way that's the right way right now was it our preconceived idea right now was it our preconceived idea right now was it our preconceived idea of what we thought was going to work of what we thought was going to work of what we thought was going to work it's whatever way was working to it's whatever way was working to it's whatever way was working to accomplish the mission and so that's accomplish the mission and so that's accomplish the mission and so that's where we really say you know when it where we really say you know when it where we really say you know when it comes to anything we've got to be more comes to anything we've got to be more comes to anything we've got to be more committed to the mission that Jesus gave committed to the mission that Jesus gave committed to the mission that Jesus gave us into a model absolutely so you've

us into a model absolutely so you've us into a model absolutely so you've really obviously had to adapt to change really obviously had to adapt to change really obviously had to adapt to change over the time you know big time what over the time you know big time what over the time you know big time what else have you once have you've been else have you once have you've been else have you once have you've been doing you know and what are some of doing you know and what are some of doing you know and what are some of those other changes that you've kind of those other changes that you've kind of those other changes that you've kind of ended up having to foist on the ministry ended up having to foist on the ministry ended up having to foist on the ministry right to see you continue to reach right to see you continue to reach right to see you continue to reach people well you know one of the things people well you know one of the things people well you know one of the things as a church in Lubbock Texas we've got as a church in Lubbock Texas we've got as a church in Lubbock Texas we've got you know we've got Texas Tech University you know we've got Texas Tech University you know we've got Texas Tech University right here in our backyard it's a right here in our backyard it's a right here in our backyard it's a college town you know at Tech I think college town you know at Tech I think college town you know at Tech I think there's something like 35,000 students there's something like 35,000 students there's something like 35,000 students enrolled and so you know we as a church enrolled and so you know we as a church enrolled and so you know we as a church we had a lot of younger people obviously we had a lot of younger people obviously we had a lot of younger people obviously we had a lot of college students but it we had a lot of college students but it we had a lot of college students but it was just like we've got almost an was just like we've got almost an was just like we've got almost an unreached people group in our backyard unreached people group in our backyard unreached people group in our backyard in Texas Tech when we begin to realize in Texas Tech when we begin to realize in Texas Tech when we begin to realize how many students go to tech and how how many students go to tech and how how many students go to tech and how many students were involved in a church many students were involved in a church many students were involved in a church somewhere right and so even what we were somewhere right and so even what we were somewhere right and so even what we were doing which was working you know well on doing which was working you know well on doing which was working you know well on for the most part we we were still for the most part we we were still for the most part we we were still realizing we're not reaching the number realizing we're not reaching the number realizing we're not reaching the number of college students that we were of college students that we were of college students that we were comfortable reaching and so we decided comfortable reaching and so we decided comfortable reaching and so we decided that we were going to start something that we were going to start something that we were going to start something new we begin to evaluate is there do we new we begin to evaluate is there do we new we begin to evaluate is there do we have environments we have places where have environments we have places where have environments we have places where these students could come and get these students could come and get these students could come and get plugged in and get involved and we plugged in and get involved and we plugged in and get involved and we really began to realize you know know if really began to realize you know know if really began to realize you know know if we want to reach this group we've got to we want to reach this group we've got to we want to reach this group we've got to go to them we don't want it we don't we go to them we don't want it we don't we go to them we don't want it we don't we can't expect them to come to us we've can't expect them to come to us we've can't expect them to come to us we've got to go to them and so we decided a got to go to them and so we decided a got to go to them and so we decided a plant basically a church on Texas Tech's plant basically a church on Texas Tech's plant basically a church on Texas Tech's campus it's in a big auditorium right campus it's in a big auditorium right campus it's in a big auditorium right there on campus where students from all there on campus where students from all there on campus where students from all over that area could literally walk to over that area could literally walk to over that area could literally walk to church if they wanted to and so we church if they wanted to and so we church if they wanted to and so we started that we actually started it at

started that we actually started it at started that we actually started it at one of our campuses that's close to one of our campuses that's close to one of our campuses that's close to Texas Tech just to launch it and see how Texas Tech just to launch it and see how Texas Tech just to launch it and see how it would work see what would happen we it would work see what would happen we it would work see what would happen we have 500 students come the first night have 500 students come the first night have 500 students come the first night oh my goodness Wow and so it out greed oh my goodness Wow and so it out greed oh my goodness Wow and so it out greed that building that worship center seats that building that worship center seats that building that worship center seats like 400 we had people in our lobby and like 400 we had people in our lobby and like 400 we had people in our lobby and people sitting all over the Texas people sitting all over the Texas people sitting all over the Texas anything or lonely it was crazy anything or lonely it was crazy anything or lonely it was crazy and so we immediately decided to move it and so we immediately decided to move it and so we immediately decided to move it to another campus well that campus was to another campus well that campus was to another campus well that campus was really really far away well we moved it really really far away well we moved it really really far away well we moved it and that it was far away from Texas Tech and that it was far away from Texas Tech and that it was far away from Texas Tech that is and so we moved it and we had that is and so we moved it and we had that is and so we moved it and we had like 700 students the next week oh my like 700 students the next week oh my like 700 students the next week oh my goodness so then we did that another goodness so then we did that another goodness so then we did that another week and then we moved it to Kent the week and then we moved it to Kent the week and then we moved it to Kent the campus and we moved it to this campus and we moved it to this campus and we moved it to this auditorium and this past you know fall auditorium and this past you know fall auditorium and this past you know fall we had our fall launch we had nearly a we had our fall launch we had nearly a we had our fall launch we had nearly a thousand students join us and so you thousand students join us and so you thousand students join us and so you know it was one of those things where we know it was one of those things where we know it was one of those things where we begin to realize hey if we're gonna if begin to realize hey if we're gonna if begin to realize hey if we're gonna if we're gonna reach this group that we we're gonna reach this group that we we're gonna reach this group that we feel like God's calling us to reach feel like God's calling us to reach feel like God's calling us to reach we've got to go to them and we got to do we've got to go to them and we got to do we've got to go to them and we got to do things differently we've got to put a things differently we've got to put a things differently we've got to put a different maybe leader and leadership in different maybe leader and leadership in different maybe leader and leadership in place that will be more relevant to that place that will be more relevant to that place that will be more relevant to that group in order to reach that group so group in order to reach that group so group in order to reach that group so how does that differ from your other how does that differ from your other how does that differ from your other campuses can you kind of walk through campuses can you kind of walk through campuses can you kind of walk through that how does that because I you know I that how does that because I you know I that how does that because I you know I think there's a you're doing a bit think there's a you're doing a bit think there's a you're doing a bit different you know programming there different you know programming there different you know programming there give me that give us a sense of what's give me that give us a sense of what's give me that give us a sense of what's out there our other campuses are all by out there our other campuses are all by out there our other campuses are all by video whether that's through satellite video whether that's through satellite video whether that's through satellite or if it's our backup file depending or if it's our backup file depending or if it's our backup file depending upon how satellite is going that weekend upon how satellite is going that weekend upon how satellite is going that weekend all of our campuses our other campuses all of our campuses our other campuses all of our campuses our other campuses are on the same message same series are on the same message same series are on the same message same series things like that Raider church meets it things like that Raider church meets it things like that Raider church meets it Tuesday nights at 9:00 and so it's its Tuesday nights at 9:00 and so it's its Tuesday nights at 9:00 and so it's its own it has its own speaker I speak their

own it has its own speaker I speak their own it has its own speaker I speak their each week and so we do our own series each week and so we do our own series each week and so we do our own series and things like that there because again and things like that there because again and things like that there because again we're trying to be more relevant to that we're trying to be more relevant to that we're trying to be more relevant to that crowd that's another way in which we crowd that's another way in which we crowd that's another way in which we changed when we starting campuses we changed when we starting campuses we changed when we starting campuses we really thought hey it's gonna be by really thought hey it's gonna be by really thought hey it's gonna be by video we're gonna replicate you know a video we're gonna replicate you know a video we're gonna replicate you know a teaching team to all of our campuses so teaching team to all of our campuses so teaching team to all of our campuses so that we can have campus pastors that are that we can have campus pastors that are that we can have campus pastors that are freed up to pastor people but when we freed up to pastor people but when we freed up to pastor people but when we started this we really Raider church we started this we really Raider church we started this we really Raider church we begin to sense that's not what we need begin to sense that's not what we need begin to sense that's not what we need to do here so we again broke from the to do here so we again broke from the to do here so we again broke from the mold that we had been doing and again to mold that we had been doing and again to mold that we had been doing and again to reach this group and I think when it reach this group and I think when it reach this group and I think when it comes to anything we do and what we comes to anything we do and what we comes to anything we do and what we would challenge you know other people to would challenge you know other people to would challenge you know other people to do is even in America we've got to live do is even in America we've got to live do is even in America we've got to live and think like missionaries that's good and think like missionaries that's good and think like missionaries that's good we've got to do whatever it takes to we've got to do whatever it takes to we've got to do whatever it takes to reach the people that God's calling us reach the people that God's calling us reach the people that God's calling us to reach we can't be committed to a to reach we can't be committed to a to reach we can't be committed to a forum or to a model we've got to think forum or to a model we've got to think forum or to a model we've got to think like missionaries and doing whatever it like missionaries and doing whatever it like missionaries and doing whatever it takes change whatever it takes in order takes change whatever it takes in order takes change whatever it takes in order to reach that group outside of the to reach that group outside of the to reach that group outside of the teaching at Raider church is the rest of teaching at Raider church is the rest of teaching at Raider church is the rest of the programming slightly different is it the programming slightly different is it the programming slightly different is it you know kind of geared specifically to you know kind of geared specifically to you know kind of geared specifically to those students I'm assuming it is yes those students I'm assuming it is yes those students I'm assuming it is yes you know the services are a little bit you know the services are a little bit you know the services are a little bit different the worse that's a little bit different the worse that's a little bit different the worse that's a little bit different we a lot of the things stay different we a lot of the things stay different we a lot of the things stay that very much the same I mean you know that very much the same I mean you know that very much the same I mean you know when it comes to groups it's the same when it comes to groups it's the same when it comes to groups it's the same groups model we don't have a kids groups model we don't have a kids groups model we don't have a kids ministry there obviously so that's ministry there obviously so that's ministry there obviously so that's that's different but so in probably in that's different but so in probably in that's different but so in probably in every other sense it looks like one of every other sense it looks like one of every other sense it looks like one of our other campuses it's just yeah our other campuses it's just yeah our other campuses it's just yeah everything is geared every series the everything is geared every series the everything is geared every series the messages all the applications you know

messages all the applications you know messages all the applications you know it's all geared towards you know yeah it's all geared towards you know yeah it's all geared towards you know yeah yeah obviously you know you obviously yeah obviously you know you obviously yeah obviously you know you obviously hit the ebb and flow of a college hit the ebb and flow of a college hit the ebb and flow of a college calendar which is similar to a church calendar which is similar to a church calendar which is similar to a church calendar but different enough that even calendar but different enough that even calendar but different enough that even that you know you have to be more that you know you have to be more that you know you have to be more sensitive to those you know it's you sensitive to those you know it's you sensitive to those you know it's you know when frosh or I've that sort of know when frosh or I've that sort of know when frosh or I've that sort of stuff you know is a bigger deal for sure stuff you know is a bigger deal for sure stuff you know is a bigger deal for sure on campus yes yeah it does have a on campus yes yeah it does have a on campus yes yeah it does have a different schedule that's true yeah different schedule that's true yeah different schedule that's true yeah definitely give us a sense to you know definitely give us a sense to you know definitely give us a sense to you know from a leadership point of view how are from a leadership point of view how are from a leadership point of view how are you leading at experienced life my sense you leading at experienced life my sense you leading at experienced life my sense is that you know just even the way is that you know just even the way is that you know just even the way you're leading is you know it's a bit you're leading is you know it's a bit you're leading is you know it's a bit different is in that God's using that to different is in that God's using that to different is in that God's using that to help reach the next generation in your help reach the next generation in your help reach the next generation in your community sure yeah you know we're community sure yeah you know we're community sure yeah you know we're always looking for you know a new group always looking for you know a new group always looking for you know a new group a new batch of leaders to come in a new batch of leaders to come in a new batch of leaders to come in because as we start new things we we because as we start new things we we because as we start new things we we need a fresh group of leaders so we so need a fresh group of leaders so we so need a fresh group of leaders so we so we're always looking at you you know we're always looking at you you know we're always looking at you you know this this next group of leaders that this this next group of leaders that this this next group of leaders that we're gonna need in order to start the we're gonna need in order to start the we're gonna need in order to start the next camp that start the next ministry next camp that start the next ministry next camp that start the next ministry do you know do whatever it takes do you know do whatever it takes do you know do whatever it takes is there another person that's gonna be is there another person that's gonna be is there another person that's gonna be more effective at reaching a certain more effective at reaching a certain more effective at reaching a certain group then than we are and so we started group then than we are and so we started group then than we are and so we started to think probably a couple years ago to think probably a couple years ago to think probably a couple years ago called Protege and that developed into called Protege and that developed into called Protege and that developed into something where we were basically had a something where we were basically had a something where we were basically had a school of leadership to raise up new school of leadership to raise up new school of leadership to raise up new leaders and that's been one of the leaders and that's been one of the leaders and that's been one of the biggest ways we've had to change in our biggest ways we've had to change in our biggest ways we've had to change in our leadership development is just becoming leadership development is just becoming leadership development is just becoming intentional we couldn't let it happen to intentional we couldn't let it happen to intentional we couldn't let it happen to us we wanted to hire from within as much

us we wanted to hire from within as much us we wanted to hire from within as much as possible but it wasn't just happening as possible but it wasn't just happening as possible but it wasn't just happening on its own by accident we really had to on its own by accident we really had to on its own by accident we really had to become more intentional about leadership become more intentional about leadership become more intentional about leadership development and so Protege runs about a development and so Protege runs about a development and so Protege runs about a year to a year and a half and we we even year to a year and a half and we we even year to a year and a half and we we even hired a guy but that's one of his main hired a guy but that's one of his main hired a guy but that's one of his main jobs is just to lead that and to be the jobs is just to lead that and to be the jobs is just to lead that and to be the Dean of Dean of Dean of J and help us raise up future leaders J and help us raise up future leaders J and help us raise up future leaders very cool but how many students are in very cool but how many students are in very cool but how many students are in Protege at a time Protege at a time Protege at a time it'll range from like 15 to 20 and it'll range from like 15 to 20 and it'll range from like 15 to 20 and there's a there's different phases to there's a there's different phases to there's a there's different phases to that we have a phase one that's kind of that we have a phase one that's kind of that we have a phase one that's kind of intro to experience live DNA we read a intro to experience live DNA we read a intro to experience live DNA we read a book called exponential that's been book called exponential that's been book called exponential that's been really impactful to us and just to kind really impactful to us and just to kind really impactful to us and just to kind of get a feel for who this group is and of get a feel for who this group is and of get a feel for who this group is and then we'll take some of those on to then we'll take some of those on to then we'll take some of those on to phase 2 so phase 1 could have 20 you phase 2 so phase 1 could have 20 you phase 2 so phase 1 could have 20 you know people in it phase 2 a protege know people in it phase 2 a protege know people in it phase 2 a protege which lasts about a year could have which lasts about a year could have which lasts about a year could have anywhere from 10 to 12 you know probably anywhere from 10 to 12 you know probably anywhere from 10 to 12 you know probably in it in it in it very cool good is there anything else very cool good is there anything else very cool good is there anything else you'd love to share with us before we you'd love to share with us before we you'd love to share with us before we jump on with the rest of our program man jump on with the rest of our program man jump on with the rest of our program man I think you know when it all comes back I think you know when it all comes back I think you know when it all comes back to us a lot of our passion and desire to us a lot of our passion and desire to us a lot of our passion and desire has come from prayer and I think we've has come from prayer and I think we've has come from prayer and I think we've seen the most impact in our church and seen the most impact in our church and seen the most impact in our church and in it all of our campuses even to things in it all of our campuses even to things in it all of our campuses even to things like attendance we'll see um you know like attendance we'll see um you know like attendance we'll see um you know increase our people getting say things increase our people getting say things increase our people getting say things like that as we pray more and so I think like that as we pray more and so I think like that as we pray more and so I think me and my challenge to you know any me and my challenge to you know any me and my challenge to you know any leader or church leader would be you leader or church leader would be you leader or church leader would be you know what are what are all the different know what are what are all the different know what are what are all the different ways we can gather people together to ways we can gather people together to ways we can gather people together to pray because we believe God will bless pray because we believe God will bless pray because we believe God will bless that rather than us kind going out on

that rather than us kind going out on that rather than us kind going out on our own saying hey we got this yeah and our own saying hey we got this yeah and our own saying hey we got this yeah and they're doing that in our own strength they're doing that in our own strength they're doing that in our own strength and power this is the unset and power this is the unset and power this is the unset minar-e-pakistan in seminary all right minar-e-pakistan in seminary all right minar-e-pakistan in seminary all right well we're gonna jump into the lightning well we're gonna jump into the lightning well we're gonna jump into the lightning round that's the part of the show where round that's the part of the show where round that's the part of the show where we ask similar questions to people that we ask similar questions to people that we ask similar questions to people that are on the show all the time today we are on the show all the time today we are on the show all the time today we are super excited to have Clayton Walker are super excited to have Clayton Walker are super excited to have Clayton Walker with us today from experienced Life with us today from experienced Life with us today from experienced Life Church in West Texas if you haven't had Church in West Texas if you haven't had Church in West Texas if you haven't had a chance to follow them you really do a chance to follow them you really do a chance to follow them you really do need to to plug in so Clayton what is an need to to plug in so Clayton what is an need to to plug in so Clayton what is an online resource that you're using these online resource that you're using these online resource that you're using these days that's been particularly helpful to days that's been particularly helpful to days that's been particularly helpful to you and your leadership sure I'd say the you and your leadership sure I'd say the you and your leadership sure I'd say the newest thing that we're using right now newest thing that we're using right now newest thing that we're using right now is an application called slack the big is an application called slack the big is an application called slack the big time great and well tell us about it time great and well tell us about it time great and well tell us about it yeah we love it we've been using it now yeah we love it we've been using it now yeah we love it we've been using it now for probably a few months but you know for probably a few months but you know for probably a few months but you know we begin to see others I think was like we begin to see others I think was like we begin to see others I think was like Michael Hyatt and other people like that Michael Hyatt and other people like that Michael Hyatt and other people like that recommending it and so our leadership recommending it and so our leadership recommending it and so our leadership team began to try it and just kind of team began to try it and just kind of team began to try it and just kind of see what we thought and then we rolled see what we thought and then we rolled see what we thought and then we rolled it out to the rest of our staff and and it out to the rest of our staff and and it out to the rest of our staff and and really trained them and we're really now really trained them and we're really now really trained them and we're really now just getting in the flow you know it's just getting in the flow you know it's just getting in the flow you know it's like anything even though we've got a like anything even though we've got a like anything even though we've got a very very very young church raiding sack we still have young church raiding sack we still have young church raiding sack we still have you know it's hard to adopt anything new you know it's hard to adopt anything new you know it's hard to adopt anything new and so going away from email and texting and so going away from email and texting and so going away from email and texting and things like that has been it was was and things like that has been it was was and things like that has been it was was difficult but man slack is great because difficult but man slack is great because difficult but man slack is great because it combines all of that into one when it it combines all of that into one when it it combines all of that into one when it comes to file sharing and things like comes to file sharing and things like comes to file sharing and things like that it integrates with Dropbox and that it integrates with Dropbox and that it integrates with Dropbox and Google Docs and all kinds of other Google Docs and all kinds of other Google Docs and all kinds of other things but but it's been so great it's things but but it's been so great it's things but but it's been so great it's just a tool you have it on your iPad just a tool you have it on your iPad just a tool you have it on your iPad iPhone you know there's an application

iPhone you know there's an application iPhone you know there's an application for Mac that we use but yeah we love it for Mac that we use but yeah we love it for Mac that we use but yeah we love it it's just combined everything our email it's just combined everything our email it's just combined everything our email has cut down by like 90 percent right has cut down by like 90 percent right has cut down by like 90 percent right and it is incredible yeah if you haven't and it is incredible yeah if you haven't and it is incredible yeah if you haven't checked out slack you really should most checked out slack you really should most checked out slack you really should most people that use it tell this is very people that use it tell this is very people that use it tell this is very similar story or I should say people similar story or I should say people similar story or I should say people organizations that have committed to it organizations that have committed to it organizations that have committed to it tell a similar story that it's like hey tell a similar story that it's like hey tell a similar story that it's like hey if we can push everybody there and push if we can push everybody there and push if we can push everybody there and push through the learning curve right there's through the learning curve right there's through the learning curve right there's there are green fields on the other side there are green fields on the other side there are green fields on the other side there there there oh we called less email which is amazing oh we called less email which is amazing oh we called less email which is amazing so what's a book you've read in the last so what's a book you've read in the last so what's a book you've read in the last you know six months maybe two a year you know six months maybe two a year you know six months maybe two a year that's shaping your thinking and manage that's shaping your thinking and manage that's shaping your thinking and manage ministry sure well we every year we read ministry sure well we every year we read ministry sure well we every year we read a book called exponential and I a book called exponential and I a book called exponential and I mentioned that for our Protege class we mentioned that for our Protege class we mentioned that for our Protege class we read that probably once a year that's read that probably once a year that's read that probably once a year that's been very influential to us so that's been very influential to us so that's been very influential to us so that's one that we read every year but a couple one that we read every year but a couple one that we read every year but a couple other ones would be right now we're other ones would be right now we're other ones would be right now we're reading a book called spiritual reading a book called spiritual reading a book called spiritual multiplication in the real world it's multiplication in the real world it's multiplication in the real world it's about disciple making movements that are about disciple making movements that are about disciple making movements that are happening around the globe and that's happening around the globe and that's happening around the globe and that's one of the things that we're real one of the things that we're real one of the things that we're real passion about we want to learn from the passion about we want to learn from the passion about we want to learn from the people who are doing things well here in people who are doing things well here in people who are doing things well here in America but also around the world America but also around the world America but also around the world because we're actually seeing around the because we're actually seeing around the because we're actually seeing around the world we're seeing movement world we're seeing movement world we're seeing movement multiplication movements happen around multiplication movements happen around multiplication movements happen around the world and much greater numbers like the world and much greater numbers like the world and much greater numbers like book of Acts kinds of stuff in him and book of Acts kinds of stuff in him and book of Acts kinds of stuff in him and in the Islamic world and things like in the Islamic world and things like in the Islamic world and things like that and we're not seeing as many of that and we're not seeing as many of that and we're not seeing as many of those things here in America so so we those things here in America so so we those things here in America so so we want to we want to learn for people want to we want to learn for people want to we want to learn for people around the world so spiritual around the world so spiritual around the world so spiritual multiplication the real world has been multiplication the real world has been multiplication the real world has been huge another book that's impacted us in huge another book that's impacted us in huge another book that's impacted us in the last probably year has been a book the last probably year has been a book the last probably year has been a book called the new 1 minute manager just

called the new 1 minute manager just called the new 1 minute manager just leading simply and giving having your leading simply and giving having your leading simply and giving having your direct reports and things like that direct reports and things like that direct reports and things like that know what their goals are know what their goals are know what their goals are and know the timing that they need to and know the timing that they need to and know the timing that they need to have those things done by that's been have those things done by that's been have those things done by that's been huge for us so yeah those are a few of huge for us so yeah those are a few of huge for us so yeah those are a few of the books that we've been putting in the books that we've been putting in the books that we've been putting in tackle test similar what's another tackle test similar what's another tackle test similar what's another ministry that you're looking to that's ministry that you're looking to that's ministry that you're looking to that's inspiring you these days inspiring you these days inspiring you these days sure we're always looking to Life Church sure we're always looking to Life Church sure we're always looking to Life Church we you know we love what they're doing we you know we love what they're doing we you know we love what they're doing and it's a group you know now with where and it's a group you know now with where and it's a group you know now with where we're at that we're really looking to we're at that we're really looking to we're at that we're really looking to for okay how do how do we take our next for okay how do how do we take our next for okay how do how do we take our next step step step you know we're we've been at four you know we're we've been at four you know we're we've been at four campuses five campuses you know we're campuses five campuses you know we're campuses five campuses you know we're about to start another one in the next about to start another one in the next about to start another one in the next year so that's a group and plus there's year so that's a group and plus there's year so that's a group and plus there's six hours away from us we can get the six hours away from us we can get the six hours away from us we can get the car you know and drive there we can fly car you know and drive there we can fly car you know and drive there we can fly there cheap you know and so that's there cheap you know and so that's there cheap you know and so that's always a church that we're looking to always a church that we're looking to always a church that we're looking to you know that's been a real example for you know that's been a real example for you know that's been a real example for us cool good what's it who's a leader us cool good what's it who's a leader us cool good what's it who's a leader that you'd love to get fifteen minutes that you'd love to get fifteen minutes that you'd love to get fifteen minutes with they got to be alive today that with they got to be alive today that with they got to be alive today that you'd lost you 15 minutes with and why you'd lost you 15 minutes with and why you'd lost you 15 minutes with and why so for me it would be Gregg mine so for me it would be Gregg mine so for me it would be Gregg mine and if you're not familiar with you Greg and if you're not familiar with you Greg and if you're not familiar with you Greg modest Greg Mott started breakaway at modest Greg Mott started breakaway at modest Greg Mott started breakaway at Texas A&M where they have nearly 10,000 Texas A&M where they have nearly 10,000 Texas A&M where they have nearly 10,000 college students meet in the basketball college students meet in the basketball college students meet in the basketball arena at Texas A&M and so Greg arena at Texas A&M and so Greg arena at Texas A&M and so Greg transition from breakaway though to I transition from breakaway though to I transition from breakaway though to I believe first admist Houston and they believe first admist Houston and they believe first admist Houston and they just saw this you know this ministry just saw this you know this ministry just saw this you know this ministry which Raider church is patterned after a

which Raider church is patterned after a which Raider church is patterned after a lot after breakaway we were just asking lot after breakaway we were just asking lot after breakaway we were just asking God to do the same thing at Texas Tech God to do the same thing at Texas Tech God to do the same thing at Texas Tech that we saw that we're seeing happen at that we saw that we're seeing happen at that we saw that we're seeing happen at Texas A&M we figured that you can do it Texas A&M we figured that you can do it Texas A&M we figured that you can do it then Red Raiders got so so yeah it would then Red Raiders got so so yeah it would then Red Raiders got so so yeah it would be Greg bond you know what what he saw be Greg bond you know what what he saw be Greg bond you know what what he saw happen and launching breakaway and happen and launching breakaway and happen and launching breakaway and seeing you get to where it was before he seeing you get to where it was before he seeing you get to where it was before he left left left man I'd love to be able to sit down with man I'd love to be able to sit down with man I'd love to be able to sit down with him and learn from him very cool very him and learn from him very cool very him and learn from him very cool very cool cool cool good well when you're not you know good well when you're not you know good well when you're not you know you're a busy guy involved in a lot of you're a busy guy involved in a lot of you're a busy guy involved in a lot of different things when you're not doing different things when you're not doing different things when you're not doing that what do you do just to kind of kick that what do you do just to kind of kick that what do you do just to kind of kick back relax you know have some fun back relax you know have some fun back relax you know have some fun sure well my wife's a personal trainer sure well my wife's a personal trainer sure well my wife's a personal trainer so I kind of have to work out oh gosh so I kind of have to work out oh gosh so I kind of have to work out oh gosh yeah that's great that that's one of the yeah that's great that that's one of the yeah that's great that that's one of the things that we do that's fun and keeps things that we do that's fun and keeps things that we do that's fun and keeps us probably sane and stress-free but but us probably sane and stress-free but but us probably sane and stress-free but but I think besides the I think besides the I think besides the I've got three kids we love you know we I've got three kids we love you know we I've got three kids we love you know we have dance parties in our kitchen we have dance parties in our kitchen we have dance parties in our kitchen we like to only get ice cream like taking like to only get ice cream like taking like to only get ice cream like taking vacations like my boys play baseball so vacations like my boys play baseball so vacations like my boys play baseball so that kind of that stuff kind of rules that kind of that stuff kind of rules that kind of that stuff kind of rules our world too so very cool I really our world too so very cool I really our world too so very cool I really appreciate be on the show today Clayton appreciate be on the show today Clayton appreciate be on the show today Clayton if people want to get in touch with you if people want to get in touch with you if people want to get in touch with you or the church how can they do that or the church how can they do that or the church how can they do that sure well our websites experience like sure well our websites experience like sure well our websites experience like now.com for Rader church that's Rader now.com for Rader church that's Rader now.com for Rader church that's Rader church comm and we're on Twitter and church comm and we're on Twitter and church comm and we're on Twitter and Facebook Facebook Facebook Clayton Walker and Instagram things like Clayton Walker and Instagram things like Clayton Walker and Instagram things like that but yeah the best play would be our that but yeah the best play would be our that but yeah the best play would be our website experience like now calm our website experience like now calm our website experience like now calm our staffs on there and things like that staffs on there and things like that staffs on there and things like that very cool yeah preciate thank you thank very cool yeah preciate thank you thank very cool yeah preciate thank you thank you for tuning in to this week's unsung

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