Raising Up Leaders from Every Tribe and Tongue

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been talking with church leaders from been talking with church leaders from what's a non-traditional context and what's a non-traditional context and what's a non-traditional context and today's one of those and i'm just today's one of those and i'm just today's one of those and i'm just excited to have you guys on the show excited to have you guys on the show excited to have you guys on the show thanks so much for being here today it's thanks so much for being here today it's thanks so much for being here today it's great to be with you not to be here Dave great to be with you not to be here Dave great to be with you not to be here Dave why don't we start with kind of giving why don't we start with kind of giving why don't we start with kind of giving me your story kind of tell me a little me your story kind of tell me a little me your story kind of tell me a little bit about how did you find yourself in bit about how did you find yourself in bit about how did you find yourself in Dubai and and planting the church that Dubai and and planting the church that Dubai and and planting the church that you're planting my wife Gloria and I as you're planting my wife Gloria and I as you're planting my wife Gloria and I as the married couple were just praying the married couple were just praying the married couple were just praying about where to go to serve among these about where to go to serve among these about where to go to serve among these trees peoples we didn't know where to go trees peoples we didn't know where to go trees peoples we didn't know where to go we stopped over at a layover and Dubai we stopped over at a layover and Dubai we stopped over at a layover and Dubai between ministry in China and Kenya was between ministry in China and Kenya was between ministry in China and Kenya was amazing we looked outside of our window amazing we looked outside of our window amazing we looked outside of our window we saw thousands of men in blue uniforms we saw thousands of men in blue uniforms we saw thousands of men in blue uniforms building what is today about 300 new building what is today about 300 new building what is today about 300 new skyscrapers the city was a fastest skyscrapers the city was a fastest skyscrapers the city was a fastest growing city in the world we come home growing city in the world we come home growing city in the world we come home and we start making phone calls to and we start making phone calls to and we start making phone calls to people asking you know what they're people asking you know what they're people asking you know what they're doing in North Africa Middle East doing in North Africa Middle East doing in North Africa Middle East Arabian Peninsula and of this part of Arabian Peninsula and of this part of Arabian Peninsula and of this part of the 10/40 window and one particular the 10/40 window and one particular the 10/40 window and one particular phone call really was the icing on the phone call really was the icing on the phone call really was the icing on the cake we are on the phone with a pastor cake we are on the phone with a pastor cake we are on the phone with a pastor in a nearby city and I'm having Gloria in a nearby city and I'm having Gloria in a nearby city and I'm having Gloria listen in on the phone call with me and listen in on the phone call with me and listen in on the phone call with me and the pastor saying that there's no the pastor saying that there's no the pastor saying that there's no healthy Church that he knows of in healthy Church that he knows of in healthy Church that he knows of in downtown Dubai and the fastest growing downtown Dubai and the fastest growing downtown Dubai and the fastest growing city in the world and he said if my city in the world and he said if my city in the world and he said if my planted one there in the urban core and planted one there in the urban core and planted one there in the urban core and preached the gospel faithfully it would preached the gospel faithfully it would preached the gospel faithfully it would grow and Gloria my wife gets so excited grow and Gloria my wife gets so excited grow and Gloria my wife gets so excited she runs in the middle of phone call I'm she runs in the middle of phone call I'm she runs in the middle of phone call I'm still talking in the room she gets to still talking in the room she gets to still talking in the room she gets to the other room to our bedroom grabs her the other room to our bedroom grabs her the other room to our bedroom grabs her suitcase grabs her favorite books suitcase grabs her favorite books suitcase grabs her favorite books and clothes and actually zipped up the and clothes and actually zipped up the and clothes and actually zipped up the suitcase and runs to the front door of suitcase and runs to the front door of suitcase and runs to the front door of our apartment and yells out let's go

centenary pay off debts raises war but centenary pay off debts raises war but it's her way of saying I'm in let's go it's her way of saying I'm in let's go it's her way of saying I'm in let's go if there's not a healthy vibrant Church if there's not a healthy vibrant Church if there's not a healthy vibrant Church preaching the gospel in the center of preaching the gospel in the center of preaching the gospel in the center of the world's fastest growing city that the world's fastest growing city that the world's fastest growing city that verse place the place with gospel need verse place the place with gospel need verse place the place with gospel need and then let's go and that led us into and then let's go and that led us into and then let's go and that led us into really about two and a half three years really about two and a half three years really about two and a half three years of preparation raising funds finishing of preparation raising funds finishing of preparation raising funds finishing seminary dude cross-cultural church seminary dude cross-cultural church seminary dude cross-cultural church planting training and we arrived on planting training and we arrived on planting training and we arrived on August 23rd 2008 to plant a church in August 23rd 2008 to plant a church in August 23rd 2008 to plant a church in the center of Dubai whose amazing is the center of Dubai whose amazing is the center of Dubai whose amazing is along the way we actually took out a map along the way we actually took out a map along the way we actually took out a map and you a square on the center of Dubai and you a square on the center of Dubai and you a square on the center of Dubai and pray that the Lord would allow us and pray that the Lord would allow us and pray that the Lord would allow us the privilege of planting a church there the privilege of planting a church there the privilege of planting a church there and about 18 months after we moved here and about 18 months after we moved here and about 18 months after we moved here we launched the church in the center of we launched the church in the center of we launched the church in the center of that square Wow let's go that square Wow let's go that square Wow let's go why don't you kind of give us a sense of why don't you kind of give us a sense of why don't you kind of give us a sense of what is that you know church look like what is that you know church look like what is that you know church look like how does that you know what is the how does that you know what is the how does that you know what is the experience if someone was to show up experience if someone was to show up experience if someone was to show up this weekend you know you know in Dubai this weekend you know you know in Dubai this weekend you know you know in Dubai what would that look like and kind of what would that look like and kind of what would that look like and kind of give me a sense of the ministry sure give me a sense of the ministry sure give me a sense of the ministry sure that the Lord's been very gracious that the Lord's been very gracious that the Lord's been very gracious Redeemer over the last six years almost Redeemer over the last six years almost Redeemer over the last six years almost seven since I was planted and you know seven since I was planted and you know seven since I was planted and you know what we say and what most people say what we say and what most people say what we say and what most people say when they come in and visit Redeemer is when they come in and visit Redeemer is when they come in and visit Redeemer is that here's wow this is like a taste of that here's wow this is like a taste of that here's wow this is like a taste of heaven and what they mean is that heaven and what they mean is that heaven and what they mean is that there's people from it feels like every there's people from it feels like every there's people from it feels like every tribe in tongue it's the the most tribe in tongue it's the the most tribe in tongue it's the the most diverse church I've ever been a part of diverse church I've ever been a part of diverse church I've ever been a part of I think last time we counted we had over I think last time we counted we had over I think last time we counted we had over 50 different nations they were part of 50 different nations they were part of 50 different nations they were part of worship on a Friday morning so the Lord worship on a Friday morning so the Lord worship on a Friday morning so the Lord has grown and I think we're around a has grown and I think we're around a has grown and I think we're around a thousand people on a Friday as we gather thousand people on a Friday as we gather thousand people on a Friday as we gather but more than that more than the but more than that more than the but more than that more than the diversity more than the numbers it's diversity more than the numbers it's diversity more than the numbers it's just we've seen gospel growth taking just we've seen gospel growth taking just we've seen gospel growth taking place people from least reach people

place people from least reach people place people from least reach people groups people from all over Asia in the groups people from all over Asia in the groups people from all over Asia in the Middle East that have come to faith as a Middle East that have come to faith as a Middle East that have come to faith as a result of a public worship gathering result of a public worship gathering result of a public worship gathering here in the middle of Dubai in the here in the middle of Dubai in the here in the middle of Dubai in the middle of the Middle East and the almost middle of the Middle East and the almost middle of the Middle East and the almost a geographic center or middle of the a geographic center or middle of the a geographic center or middle of the 1040 window and so the Lord has been 1040 window and so the Lord has been 1040 window and so the Lord has been gracious we've seen as we hold out God's gracious we've seen as we hold out God's gracious we've seen as we hold out God's Word people come to faith from many Word people come to faith from many Word people come to faith from many different nations so that's that's just different nations so that's that's just different nations so that's that's just a quick snapshot and what makes this a quick snapshot and what makes this a quick snapshot and what makes this excited to be here yeah why don't you excited to be here yeah why don't you excited to be here yeah why don't you give me a sense of you know Scott how give me a sense of you know Scott how give me a sense of you know Scott how did you and Dave connect what was that did you and Dave connect what was that did you and Dave connect what was that story how did you story how did you story how did you you know we've you been there right from you know we've you been there right from you know we've you been there right from the beginning did you jump in that the beginning did you jump in that the beginning did you jump in that suitcase that his wife packed up or what suitcase that his wife packed up or what suitcase that his wife packed up or what did that look like well everything good did that look like well everything good did that look like well everything good in Dubai happens on a layover and so in Dubai happens on a layover and so in Dubai happens on a layover and so Dave's first experience was on a layover Dave's first experience was on a layover Dave's first experience was on a layover mine was on a layover I was actually on mine was on a layover I was actually on mine was on a layover I was actually on my way from India to Uganda okay and so my way from India to Uganda okay and so my way from India to Uganda okay and so my wife and I were in India I'm planning my wife and I were in India I'm planning my wife and I were in India I'm planning a church and helping start a Seminary in a church and helping start a Seminary in a church and helping start a Seminary in Delhi and we also my way to preach at a Delhi and we also my way to preach at a Delhi and we also my way to preach at a pastors conference in Uganda and I came pastors conference in Uganda and I came pastors conference in Uganda and I came by here on a layover and kind of leading by here on a layover and kind of leading by here on a layover and kind of leading up to that the last year more in India I up to that the last year more in India I up to that the last year more in India I had struggled severely with asthma and had struggled severely with asthma and had struggled severely with asthma and Delhi's one of the most polluted cities Delhi's one of the most polluted cities Delhi's one of the most polluted cities in the entire world in the entire world in the entire world yes the most yeah you know I just want yes the most yeah you know I just want yes the most yeah you know I just want to be nice to my former home and to say to be nice to my former home and to say to be nice to my former home and to say it's one of you that's true it is one of it's one of you that's true it is one of it's one of you that's true it is one of them yes it is and so we were just them yes it is and so we were just them yes it is and so we were just struggling with where the Lord wanted us struggling with where the Lord wanted us struggling with where the Lord wanted us in ministry I had spent several summers in ministry I had spent several summers in ministry I had spent several summers in Africa when I was in college and in Africa when I was in college and in Africa when I was in college and we're thinking maybe we had that we're thinking maybe we had that we're thinking maybe we had that direction we didn't know what was going direction we didn't know what was going direction we didn't know what was going on we just knew we wanted to be in a on we just knew we wanted to be in a on we just knew we wanted to be in a city I'm helping to see churches planted

city I'm helping to see churches planted city I'm helping to see churches planted so that the unreached could be reached so that the unreached could be reached so that the unreached could be reached as they heard the gospel by those as they heard the gospel by those as they heard the gospel by those corporate witnesses to the gospel and so corporate witnesses to the gospel and so corporate witnesses to the gospel and so we were in Delhi doing that and came we were in Delhi doing that and came we were in Delhi doing that and came through here and met with Dave this was through here and met with Dave this was through here and met with Dave this was about three years ago and we just about three years ago and we just about three years ago and we just immediately shared a common vision and immediately shared a common vision and immediately shared a common vision and bond and the what we saw is helpful for bond and the what we saw is helpful for bond and the what we saw is helpful for this part of the world and not just this part of the world and not just this part of the world and not just holding the gospel out but seeing it holding the gospel out but seeing it holding the gospel out but seeing it implants it in a community so gathering implants it in a community so gathering implants it in a community so gathering a group of people as a church and then a group of people as a church and then a group of people as a church and then using that as a context to train leaders using that as a context to train leaders using that as a context to train leaders for healthy churches throughout the for healthy churches throughout the for healthy churches throughout the region and so we just showed that and so region and so we just showed that and so region and so we just showed that and so pretty I think even in that first pretty I think even in that first pretty I think even in that first conversation Dave basically just said conversation Dave basically just said conversation Dave basically just said you know one aim just come over here and you know one aim just come over here and you know one aim just come over here and do what you're doing in Delhi in Dubai do what you're doing in Delhi in Dubai do what you're doing in Delhi in Dubai so that was that and that was that and so that was that and that was that and so that was that and that was that and that was that was this so this is that was that was this so this is that was that was this so this is amazing the thing I find just so amazing the thing I find just so amazing the thing I find just so fascinating about the story of you know fascinating about the story of you know fascinating about the story of you know what's happening at Redeemer Dubai is what's happening at Redeemer Dubai is what's happening at Redeemer Dubai is not only are you reaching folks you know not only are you reaching folks you know not only are you reaching folks you know that's that's happening but then there's that's that's happening but then there's that's that's happening but then there's this this passion to then replicate and this this passion to then replicate and this this passion to then replicate and you know disciple and grow other you you know disciple and grow other you you know disciple and grow other you know other leaders you know that's know other leaders you know that's know other leaders you know that's pretty amazing what would you say are pretty amazing what would you say are pretty amazing what would you say are and maybe Dave you could answer this and maybe Dave you could answer this and maybe Dave you could answer this what would you say are some of the you what would you say are some of the you what would you say are some of the you aspects of the culture that you're in aspects of the culture that you're in aspects of the culture that you're in and how has your ministry adjusted to and how has your ministry adjusted to and how has your ministry adjusted to that what is that you know was it look that what is that you know was it look that what is that you know was it look like it's interesting because Dubai is like it's interesting because Dubai is like it's interesting because Dubai is really the Gateway to Africa Europe and really the Gateway to Africa Europe and really the Gateway to Africa Europe and Asia and so there are dozens I don't Asia and so there are dozens I don't Asia and so there are dozens I don't know a couple hundred and maybe almost know a couple hundred and maybe almost know a couple hundred and maybe almost all the world's people groups are all the world's people groups are all the world's people groups are gathered the major people groups and

gathered the major people groups and gathered the major people groups and major ethnic errs earth you know major ethnic errs earth you know major ethnic errs earth you know assembled here in Dubai it's a real assembled here in Dubai it's a real assembled here in Dubai it's a real melting pot 90% of the population of melting pot 90% of the population of melting pot 90% of the population of Dubai are expatriates meaning they don't Dubai are expatriates meaning they don't Dubai are expatriates meaning they don't have a local passport so the world was have a local passport so the world was have a local passport so the world was converging here which makes it a real converging here which makes it a real converging here which makes it a real strategic place to reach the world about strategic place to reach the world about strategic place to reach the world about Forbes you know secular magazine called Forbes you know secular magazine called Forbes you know secular magazine called Dubai the seventh most important city in Dubai the seventh most important city in Dubai the seventh most important city in the world I would say you could say the world I would say you could say the world I would say you could say similar things about it in a spiritual similar things about it in a spiritual similar things about it in a spiritual sense if you're trying to reach the sense if you're trying to reach the sense if you're trying to reach the nations and get a one place and reach nations and get a one place and reach nations and get a one place and reach the nation's and so our city is the nation's and so our city is the nation's and so our city is incredibly diverse which is a culture of incredibly diverse which is a culture of incredibly diverse which is a culture of its own you don't really you know have its own you don't really you know have its own you don't really you know have what maybe you had in northern India in what maybe you had in northern India in what maybe you had in northern India in Delhi were you know you had specific Delhi were you know you had specific Delhi were you know you had specific Indian cultures that maybe had a little Indian cultures that maybe had a little Indian cultures that maybe had a little more like one another than you would more like one another than you would more like one another than you would have if you by work some culture just have if you by work some culture just have if you by work some culture just drastically different and there's not drastically different and there's not drastically different and there's not really a way to minister to one culture really a way to minister to one culture really a way to minister to one culture so I feel like I'm taking baby steps so I feel like I'm taking baby steps so I feel like I'm taking baby steps eight years in and learning Filipino eight years in and learning Filipino eight years in and learning Filipino culture a Nigerian culture and Iranian culture a Nigerian culture and Iranian culture a Nigerian culture and Iranian culture and Egyptian culture learning culture and Egyptian culture learning culture and Egyptian culture learning little bits of it and then we as a little bits of it and then we as a little bits of it and then we as a church our culture of our own of you church our culture of our own of you church our culture of our own of you know 60 70 different nationalities all know 60 70 different nationalities all know 60 70 different nationalities all coming together I think we have 35 ish coming together I think we have 35 ish coming together I think we have 35 ish and membership itself and with no one and membership itself and with no one and membership itself and with no one people group totally dominant and so people group totally dominant and so people group totally dominant and so that's it's interesting that's it's interesting that's it's interesting you learn you learn about giving up your you learn you learn about giving up your you learn you learn about giving up your preferences you learn about you know preferences you learn about you know preferences you learn about you know things that other cultures do amazingly things that other cultures do amazingly things that other cultures do amazingly well and you glean from them and you well and you glean from them and you well and you glean from them and you learn kind of spiritually speaking about learn kind of spiritually speaking about learn kind of spiritually speaking about people's relationships of the Lord and people's relationships of the Lord and people's relationships of the Lord and kind of what they can teach you from kind of what they can teach you from kind of what they can teach you from their background that's amazing know their background that's amazing know their background that's amazing know what so you know when you started what

what so you know when you started what what so you know when you started what did it look like because obviously you did it look like because obviously you did it look like because obviously you you know we all come from a particular you know we all come from a particular you know we all come from a particular cultural group obviously or reaching cultural group obviously or reaching cultural group obviously or reaching people from around you know the world people from around you know the world people from around you know the world what did those early days look like as what did those early days look like as what did those early days look like as you even just started to gather people I you even just started to gather people I you even just started to gather people I mean you know assuming you know you were mean you know assuming you know you were mean you know assuming you know you were gathering people relationally what did gathering people relationally what did gathering people relationally what did that look like in those in those early that look like in those in those early that look like in those in those early days well we didn't really know what we days well we didn't really know what we days well we didn't really know what we were doing at all so were doing at all so were doing at all so that's my wife our one-year-old daughter that's my wife our one-year-old daughter that's my wife our one-year-old daughter just parachuted in we had met a couple just parachuted in we had met a couple just parachuted in we had met a couple people beforehand that's it and so the people beforehand that's it and so the people beforehand that's it and so the first thing was just let's get to know first thing was just let's get to know first thing was just let's get to know people let's get to know the city we people let's get to know the city we people let's get to know the city we prayed that the Lord would give us a prayed that the Lord would give us a prayed that the Lord would give us a heart for Dubai that we fall in love heart for Dubai that we fall in love heart for Dubai that we fall in love with the city that we would pray and with the city that we would pray and with the city that we would pray and care for the rulers and the citizens and care for the rulers and the citizens and care for the rulers and the citizens and we wanted to do good for Dubai and be a we wanted to do good for Dubai and be a we wanted to do good for Dubai and be a blessing to Dubai so we just began to blessing to Dubai so we just began to blessing to Dubai so we just began to pray that the Lord would number one put pray that the Lord would number one put pray that the Lord would number one put a love for do banner hearts and so we a love for do banner hearts and so we a love for do banner hearts and so we started walking around the city and started walking around the city and started walking around the city and meeting people and meeting shopkeepers meeting people and meeting shopkeepers meeting people and meeting shopkeepers and falling in love with what some and falling in love with what some and falling in love with what some people might not think is is beauty but people might not think is is beauty but people might not think is is beauty but we love it we think Dubai is one of the we love it we think Dubai is one of the we love it we think Dubai is one of the most beautiful places on the earth both most beautiful places on the earth both most beautiful places on the earth both the city and the people make it that way the city and the people make it that way the city and the people make it that way I was number one number two finding I was number one number two finding I was number one number two finding people who would join us we ended up people who would join us we ended up people who would join us we ended up partnering with a church on the partnering with a church on the partnering with a church on the outskirts of the city and they were outskirts of the city and they were outskirts of the city and they were wonderful they sent us several dozen wonderful they sent us several dozen wonderful they sent us several dozen people sent us money gave us some people sent us money gave us some people sent us money gave us some visibility and credibility so that was visibility and credibility so that was visibility and credibility so that was the second key thing the third thing was the second key thing the third thing was the second key thing the third thing was just finding people in the city who had just finding people in the city who had just finding people in the city who had an interest in the church and so I kind an interest in the church and so I kind an interest in the church and so I kind of built out lists of people that we had of built out lists of people that we had of built out lists of people that we had heard of or a friend of a friend our heard of or a friend of a friend our heard of or a friend of a friend our friend told us and we just started friend told us and we just started friend told us and we just started following up and doing lunches and following up and doing lunches and following up and doing lunches and coffees and Tim Keller once said when he coffees and Tim Keller once said when he coffees and Tim Keller once said when he planted Redeemer Church in New York that

planted Redeemer Church in New York that planted Redeemer Church in New York that he would just meet new people and ask he would just meet new people and ask he would just meet new people and ask him two questions one you know what kind him two questions one you know what kind him two questions one you know what kind of church would best serve the city and of church would best serve the city and of church would best serve the city and number two you know anybody else in the number two you know anybody else in the number two you know anybody else in the city that I could talk to you about the city that I could talk to you about the city that I could talk to you about the church and he would just build a list of church and he would just build a list of church and he would just build a list of of names and stuff falling in love with of names and stuff falling in love with of names and stuff falling in love with the city building a partnership with a the city building a partnership with a the city building a partnership with a great church and then number three just great church and then number three just great church and then number three just building contacts and that ended up with building contacts and that ended up with building contacts and that ended up with about 70 on a launch team and we met about 70 on a launch team and we met about 70 on a launch team and we met several weeks and prayed and plans the several weeks and prayed and plans the several weeks and prayed and plans the launch and then in February 12 2010 we launch and then in February 12 2010 we launch and then in February 12 2010 we launched him several times that many and launched him several times that many and launched him several times that many and I think it's because people were getting I think it's because people were getting I think it's because people were getting the word out and they were taking it the word out and they were taking it the word out and they were taking it seriously about a new work they were seriously about a new work they were seriously about a new work they were taking it seriously about sharing the taking it seriously about sharing the taking it seriously about sharing the gospel of people and there was a real gospel of people and there was a real gospel of people and there was a real need and proved that there was a vacuum need and proved that there was a vacuum need and proved that there was a vacuum puffy churches in downtown yeah the puffy churches in downtown yeah the puffy churches in downtown yeah the thing I want to pull apart there you thing I want to pull apart there you thing I want to pull apart there you know it was so if I if I'm doing my math know it was so if I if I'm doing my math know it was so if I if I'm doing my math right it was just under two years of right it was just under two years of right it was just under two years of kind of laying the groundwork before you kind of laying the groundwork before you kind of laying the groundwork before you started you know public services is that started you know public services is that started you know public services is that right if I'm doing that mattress 18 right if I'm doing that mattress 18 right if I'm doing that mattress 18 months or so you're right yeah and and I months or so you're right yeah and and I months or so you're right yeah and and I thing I love is the focus on and thing I love is the focus on and thing I love is the focus on and I've seen this in other context I've I've seen this in other context I've I've seen this in other context I've seen in my own context as we've launched seen in my own context as we've launched seen in my own context as we've launched campuses that the real focus on finding campuses that the real focus on finding campuses that the real focus on finding a core who will multiply the mission or a core who will multiply the mission or a core who will multiply the mission or multiply you know what it is that you're multiply you know what it is that you're multiply you know what it is that you're attempting to do you know that's so attempting to do you know that's so attempting to do you know that's so critical that's such a you know an critical that's such a you know an critical that's such a you know an important piece of the you know the important piece of the you know the important piece of the you know the puzzle Scott why don't you tell us a puzzle Scott why don't you tell us a puzzle Scott why don't you tell us a little bit about the training that little bit about the training that little bit about the training that you're doing at redeeming you know you're doing at redeeming you know you're doing at redeeming you know Redeemer Dubai how is this a platform Redeemer Dubai how is this a platform Redeemer Dubai how is this a platform for you know training other leaders sure for you know training other leaders sure for you know training other leaders sure the part of the initial vision of the the part of the initial vision of the the part of the initial vision of the church was not just to be a fellowship

church was not just to be a fellowship church was not just to be a fellowship of the foreigners in town it was that of the foreigners in town it was that of the foreigners in town it was that this church could be one that was this church could be one that was this church could be one that was reaching the nations that were in Dubai reaching the nations that were in Dubai reaching the nations that were in Dubai and so one of the ways that we see and so one of the ways that we see and so one of the ways that we see that's important in doing that is that that's important in doing that is that that's important in doing that is that there's leaders for that mission so there's leaders for that mission so there's leaders for that mission so obviously we need everyone in the whole obviously we need everyone in the whole obviously we need everyone in the whole church to be engaged in the mission so church to be engaged in the mission so church to be engaged in the mission so we throughout the church we're trying to we throughout the church we're trying to we throughout the church we're trying to train up every member to be involved in train up every member to be involved in train up every member to be involved in evangelism to be involved in evangelism to be involved in evangelism to be involved in discipleship to know what it means to discipleship to know what it means to discipleship to know what it means to sit down with someone I go over sit down with someone I go over sit down with someone I go over scripture with them and encourage them scripture with them and encourage them scripture with them and encourage them whether they're a non-believer or a new whether they're a non-believer or a new whether they're a non-believer or a new believer or even a mature believer we believer or even a mature believer we believer or even a mature believer we want all of our members to be equipped want all of our members to be equipped want all of our members to be equipped to be on mission but then particularly I to be on mission but then particularly I to be on mission but then particularly I want it to be a context where leaders want it to be a context where leaders want it to be a context where leaders could be raised up and so in the early could be raised up and so in the early could be raised up and so in the early days of the church that was kind of days of the church that was kind of days of the church that was kind of happening and in fits and starts doing happening and in fits and starts doing happening and in fits and starts doing the internship here or you know just a the internship here or you know just a the internship here or you know just a friend could come along for a little friend could come along for a little friend could come along for a little while there but really as I came along while there but really as I came along while there but really as I came along the the goal was how can we give shape the the goal was how can we give shape the the goal was how can we give shape to this and formalize it in a way and so to this and formalize it in a way and so to this and formalize it in a way and so what we've tried to do is is do what we've tried to do is is do what we've tried to do is is do something that we're calling church something that we're calling church something that we're calling church dependent theological education ok now dependent theological education ok now dependent theological education ok now we're not we're not trying to replicate we're not we're not trying to replicate we're not we're not trying to replicate a seminary over here we can't do that a seminary over here we can't do that a seminary over here we can't do that for a number different reasons but we for a number different reasons but we for a number different reasons but we don't really want to we want to see guys don't really want to we want to see guys don't really want to we want to see guys that are raised up through the church that are raised up through the church that are raised up through the church for the church and we think that any for the church and we think that any for the church and we think that any local church and can be a context in local church and can be a context in local church and can be a context in which people can be raised up for the which people can be raised up for the which people can be raised up for the ministry and so what we're doing is ministry and so what we're doing is ministry and so what we're doing is combining some intentional theological combining some intentional theological combining some intentional theological education at a pretty high level we education at a pretty high level we education at a pretty high level we started with some actually right now I started with some actually right now I started with some actually right now I just came from a current two-day just came from a current two-day just came from a current two-day intensive on the Holy Spirit it's in intensive on the Holy Spirit it's in intensive on the Holy Spirit it's in English teaching at the seminary level

English teaching at the seminary level English teaching at the seminary level we had over 60 students show up to learn we had over 60 students show up to learn we had over 60 students show up to learn learn about it and so we have a group of learn about it and so we have a group of learn about it and so we have a group of 16 students that's our year-long cohort 16 students that's our year-long cohort 16 students that's our year-long cohort they're taking ten classes this year they're taking ten classes this year they're taking ten classes this year that's a three year that's a three year that's a three year program we're hoping a few of those out program we're hoping a few of those out program we're hoping a few of those out of that group will become some church of that group will become some church of that group will become some church planners that are raised up purely from planners that are raised up purely from planners that are raised up purely from from here so so we really excited about from here so so we really excited about from here so so we really excited about it we we want to be a place again that it we we want to be a place again that it we we want to be a place again that guys are sent out particularly to plant guys are sent out particularly to plant guys are sent out particularly to plant more churches and we think that that more churches and we think that that more churches and we think that that happens best within the context of a happens best within the context of a happens best within the context of a church so when they they go out they not church so when they they go out they not church so when they they go out they not only have the knowledge in their head only have the knowledge in their head only have the knowledge in their head but they've been able to work out in the but they've been able to work out in the but they've been able to work out in the context of ministry as well so this is context of ministry as well so this is context of ministry as well so this is amazing I hope you guys as you're amazing I hope you guys as you're amazing I hope you guys as you're listening and are encouraged by this listening and are encouraged by this listening and are encouraged by this story I you know it's humbling I think story I you know it's humbling I think story I you know it's humbling I think there's a lot of us are in context where there's a lot of us are in context where there's a lot of us are in context where you know we would have you know we would you know we would have you know we would you know we would have you know we would be able to do the kind of things you're be able to do the kind of things you're be able to do the kind of things you're doing and not even think about it and doing and not even think about it and doing and not even think about it and the thing that I love that you're doing the thing that I love that you're doing the thing that I love that you're doing is pushing forward you're being is pushing forward you're being is pushing forward you're being innovative not only reaching people innovative not only reaching people innovative not only reaching people disciple in them your vision you know a disciple in them your vision you know a disciple in them your vision you know a bigger so many people would be happy bigger so many people would be happy bigger so many people would be happy with like oh my goodness we've got a with like oh my goodness we've got a with like oh my goodness we've got a church of a thousand people they put church of a thousand people they put church of a thousand people they put their feet back and be like okay this is their feet back and be like okay this is their feet back and be like okay this is great and I just love that you're great and I just love that you're great and I just love that you're pushing forward and saying hey what's pushing forward and saying hey what's pushing forward and saying hey what's next how are we spreading this how are next how are we spreading this how are next how are we spreading this how are we coming I love you know what you said we coming I love you know what you said we coming I love you know what you said Dave at the beginning a church that Dave at the beginning a church that Dave at the beginning a church that plant churches that plant churches that plant churches that plant churches that plant churches that plant churches that plant churches that's just you know plant churches that's just you know plant churches that's just you know fantastic why don't we talk you know fantastic why don't we talk you know fantastic why don't we talk you know turn the corner a little bit maybe we'll turn the corner a little bit maybe we'll turn the corner a little bit maybe we'll start with Dave and then Scott thinking start with Dave and then Scott thinking start with Dave and then Scott thinking back to leaders who are in the states back to leaders who are in the states back to leaders who are in the states knowing what you know now as you've led knowing what you know now as you've led knowing what you know now as you've led in the context that you're in what would in the context that you're in what would in the context that you're in what would be some advice you know I'm sure there's

be some advice you know I'm sure there's be some advice you know I'm sure there's people listening and saying man I want people listening and saying man I want people listening and saying man I want to learn from these these folks what to learn from these these folks what to learn from these these folks what would you what would be some advice you would you what would be some advice you would you what would be some advice you would give to church leaders you know would give to church leaders you know would give to church leaders you know back in the States yeah I mean there's a back in the States yeah I mean there's a back in the States yeah I mean there's a lot there's a lot of things I'm sure lot there's a lot of things I'm sure lot there's a lot of things I'm sure will get even more creative in a minute will get even more creative in a minute will get even more creative in a minute but actually perhaps the most creative but actually perhaps the most creative but actually perhaps the most creative thing we've done is actually to be thing we've done is actually to be thing we've done is actually to be intentionally boring and not really intentionally boring and not really intentionally boring and not really agreement but what we've done is we agreement but what we've done is we agreement but what we've done is we we've made the primacy of everything we we've made the primacy of everything we we've made the primacy of everything we do God's Word yes and the gospel which do God's Word yes and the gospel which do God's Word yes and the gospel which is not more but some people think it is is not more but some people think it is is not more but some people think it is and there's obviously creative things and there's obviously creative things and there's obviously creative things you can do you mentioned the word you can do you mentioned the word you can do you mentioned the word innovative I'm all for that but what we innovative I'm all for that but what we innovative I'm all for that but what we found is perhaps the most innovative found is perhaps the most innovative found is perhaps the most innovative thing we can do is actually to teach thing we can do is actually to teach thing we can do is actually to teach God's Word because the whole world is God's Word because the whole world is God's Word because the whole world is you know where we want to be entertained you know where we want to be entertained you know where we want to be entertained and there's lots of ways we can do that and there's lots of ways we can do that and there's lots of ways we can do that but what we've actually found best is but what we've actually found best is but what we've actually found best is just to open up God's Word and to teach just to open up God's Word and to teach just to open up God's Word and to teach it and and people's lives are being it and and people's lives are being it and and people's lives are being changed and right now we're going changed and right now we're going changed and right now we're going through 9 through 9 through 9 in the Book of Leviticus I mean none of in the Book of Leviticus I mean none of in the Book of Leviticus I mean none of nobody at first ever studied Leviticus nobody at first ever studied Leviticus nobody at first ever studied Leviticus probably haven't even read it I've never probably haven't even read it I've never probably haven't even read it I've never studied it in depth and the book is studied it in depth and the book is studied it in depth and the book is coming alive we finished the fifth week coming alive we finished the fifth week coming alive we finished the fifth week today and just holding up that word today and just holding up that word today and just holding up that word we've seen that people are hungry for we've seen that people are hungry for we've seen that people are hungry for it's actually the most one of the most it's actually the most one of the most it's actually the most one of the most innovative things we've done is not be innovative things we've done is not be innovative things we've done is not be so innovative on a certain amendment so innovative on a certain amendment so innovative on a certain amendment right that's word and go to the gospel right that's word and go to the gospel right that's word and go to the gospel Romans 1 says you know not be ashamed of Romans 1 says you know not be ashamed of Romans 1 says you know not be ashamed of the gospel because it is the power of the gospel because it is the power of the gospel because it is the power of God it changes lives we can't make a God it changes lives we can't make a God it changes lives we can't make a better message we can't add to it we better message we can't add to it we better message we can't add to it we can't be more innovative than God can't be more innovative than God can't be more innovative than God already has and so clearly we want to do already has and so clearly we want to do already has and so clearly we want to do that in creative ways but I think at the that in creative ways but I think at the

that in creative ways but I think at the fundamental level we want to hold out fundamental level we want to hold out fundamental level we want to hold out the old and true gospel for our people the old and true gospel for our people the old and true gospel for our people and so there are people around us that and so there are people around us that and so there are people around us that are you know wanting to preacher are you know wanting to preacher are you know wanting to preacher prosperity gospel or promise special prosperity gospel or promise special prosperity gospel or promise special things other people that want to things other people that want to things other people that want to entertain people to death and amuse them entertain people to death and amuse them entertain people to death and amuse them to death we've wanted to focus on God's to death we've wanted to focus on God's to death we've wanted to focus on God's Word and so I think that's fundamentally Word and so I think that's fundamentally Word and so I think that's fundamentally what undergirds it and then there's what undergirds it and then there's what undergirds it and then there's obviously lots of other I don't know obviously lots of other I don't know obviously lots of other I don't know Scott you have some things to add Scott you have some things to add Scott you have some things to add there's there's certainly other things there's there's certainly other things there's there's certainly other things we've done yeah in terms of you know we've done yeah in terms of you know we've done yeah in terms of you know what guys in the US could be thinking what guys in the US could be thinking what guys in the US could be thinking about as they think about a place like about as they think about a place like about as they think about a place like Dubai I think what Dave said is really Dubai I think what Dave said is really Dubai I think what Dave said is really wise because you know in many ways and wise because you know in many ways and wise because you know in many ways and we're not doing anything different that we're not doing anything different that we're not doing anything different that gathers these 50 different nations it's gathers these 50 different nations it's gathers these 50 different nations it's a product of the city that we live in a product of the city that we live in a product of the city that we live in you know but by holding out God's Word you know but by holding out God's Word you know but by holding out God's Word that's gathered people from every nation that's gathered people from every nation that's gathered people from every nation in some ways because we've celebrated in some ways because we've celebrated in some ways because we've celebrated that so I think that is something for that so I think that is something for that so I think that is something for guys to think about is if you're looking guys to think about is if you're looking guys to think about is if you're looking around your city or even your around your city or even your around your city or even your neighborhood and realizing that your neighborhood and realizing that your neighborhood and realizing that your church doesn't reflect it um you know church doesn't reflect it um you know church doesn't reflect it um you know obviously a common problem and with obviously a common problem and with obviously a common problem and with ethnic tension and things like that when ethnic tension and things like that when ethnic tension and things like that when suburbs in different places in the in suburbs in different places in the in suburbs in different places in the in the cities where your church has come to the cities where your church has come to the cities where your church has come to a place where it's not reflecting the a place where it's not reflecting the a place where it's not reflecting the neighborhood well are you celebrating neighborhood well are you celebrating neighborhood well are you celebrating that as a church are you celebrating that as a church are you celebrating that as a church are you celebrating what unity looks like are you what unity looks like are you what unity looks like are you celebrating revelation 5 and 7 and every celebrating revelation 5 and 7 and every celebrating revelation 5 and 7 and every tribe and Sun becoming you know around tribe and Sun becoming you know around tribe and Sun becoming you know around that thrown together and not only that thrown together and not only that thrown together and not only celebrating in are you working towards celebrating in are you working towards celebrating in are you working towards it are you appointing elders I'm from it are you appointing elders I'm from it are you appointing elders I'm from those communities and we we worked those communities and we we worked those communities and we we worked really hard and to where you know and

really hard and to where you know and really hard and to where you know and again it's we've worked hard and God's again it's we've worked hard and God's again it's we've worked hard and God's provided the fruit so we don't want it provided the fruit so we don't want it provided the fruit so we don't want it and anyway take it and anyway take it and anyway take it but um over the summer three elder but um over the summer three elder but um over the summer three elder candidates have been one from the candidates have been one from the candidates have been one from the Philippines one from Meg Kenya and one Philippines one from Meg Kenya and one Philippines one from Meg Kenya and one from South Africa and that's because of from South Africa and that's because of from South Africa and that's because of intentional discipleship intentional discipleship intentional discipleship into those communities and calling David into those communities and calling David into those communities and calling David actually sat in front of it or not sat actually sat in front of it or not sat actually sat in front of it or not sat stood in front of the whole congregation stood in front of the whole congregation stood in front of the whole congregation today is that every men in this every today is that every men in this every today is that every men in this every man in this church should be aspiring to man in this church should be aspiring to man in this church should be aspiring to be an elder and we really want to do be an elder and we really want to do be an elder and we really want to do that we want to call not just the people that we want to call not just the people that we want to call not just the people who are like us not just the people we who are like us not just the people we who are like us not just the people we feel comfortable leading with but we feel comfortable leading with but we feel comfortable leading with but we want to what we want the church to look want to what we want the church to look want to what we want the church to look like we want to hold that out and say like we want to hold that out and say like we want to hold that out and say this is what we're hoping it to look this is what we're hoping it to look this is what we're hoping it to look like we want to see people from every like we want to see people from every like we want to see people from every tribe and Sun in the church will see tribe and Sun in the church will see tribe and Sun in the church will see every people from every tribe and Sun every people from every tribe and Sun every people from every tribe and Sun leading in this church and so I you know leading in this church and so I you know leading in this church and so I you know I think sometimes we we pray for things I think sometimes we we pray for things I think sometimes we we pray for things and we want things but we actually don't and we want things but we actually don't and we want things but we actually don't end up talking about it we don't end up end up talking about it we don't end up end up talking about it we don't end up teaching towards them we don't end up teaching towards them we don't end up teaching towards them we don't end up actually take any steps toward on and actually take any steps toward on and actually take any steps toward on and it's just not gonna happen by accident it's just not gonna happen by accident it's just not gonna happen by accident especially I'm in that area of ethnic especially I'm in that area of ethnic especially I'm in that area of ethnic unity and cross-cultural ministry that's unity and cross-cultural ministry that's unity and cross-cultural ministry that's not gonna happen in the church bags I not gonna happen in the church bags I not gonna happen in the church bags I should spend fascinating what a great should spend fascinating what a great should spend fascinating what a great conversation Dave is there anything else conversation Dave is there anything else conversation Dave is there anything else you want to share with us before we wrap you want to share with us before we wrap you want to share with us before we wrap up and then if not how can we if people up and then if not how can we if people up and then if not how can we if people want to learn more about your church how want to learn more about your church how want to learn more about your church how can they get in touch yeah well love for can they get in touch yeah well love for can they get in touch yeah well love for people to get in touch it is a unique people to get in touch it is a unique people to get in touch it is a unique place to do ministry I think one thing place to do ministry I think one thing place to do ministry I think one thing I'd add is just say we're praying for I'd add is just say we're praying for I'd add is just say we're praying for more laborers so if you're listening to more laborers so if you're listening to more laborers so if you're listening to this you're thinking about going this you're thinking about going this you're thinking about going overseas overseas overseas both our city but also the region we're both our city but also the region we're both our city but also the region we're hoping to have more impact in the region

hoping to have more impact in the region hoping to have more impact in the region see Dubai as a hub kind of a launching see Dubai as a hub kind of a launching see Dubai as a hub kind of a launching pad and we have a unique opportunity to pad and we have a unique opportunity to pad and we have a unique opportunity to see churches planted among least reach see churches planted among least reach see churches planted among least reach people group so we love the church I people group so we love the church I people group so we love the church I mean we love the church the church is mean we love the church the church is mean we love the church the church is God's means God's plan for spreading the God's means God's plan for spreading the God's means God's plan for spreading the gospel around the world and so we want gospel around the world and so we want gospel around the world and so we want to see more of these corporate displays to see more of these corporate displays to see more of these corporate displays of God's glory planted and so if you're of God's glory planted and so if you're of God's glory planted and so if you're listening and you're interested in listening and you're interested in listening and you're interested in serving overseas you know heart to be serving overseas you know heart to be serving overseas you know heart to be involved in pastoral ministry but also a involved in pastoral ministry but also a involved in pastoral ministry but also a heart for the loss that a heart for the heart for the loss that a heart for the heart for the loss that a heart for the least reach no heart for those in the least reach no heart for those in the least reach no heart for those in the 10/40 window then we would say please 10/40 window then we would say please 10/40 window then we would say please love for you to get in touch with us at love for you to get in touch with us at love for you to get in touch with us at Redeemer you by we'd love to hear your Redeemer you by we'd love to hear your Redeemer you by we'd love to hear your heart we'd love to talk about other heart we'd love to talk about other heart we'd love to talk about other cities we're hoping to reach and we'd cities we're hoping to reach and we'd cities we're hoping to reach and we'd love to be just be in touch and and we love to be just be in touch and and we love to be just be in touch and and we encourage you if that's not you than to encourage you if that's not you than to encourage you if that's not you than to pray for us to pray for more people to pray for us to pray for more people to pray for us to pray for more people to come to faith and pray for a steady flow come to faith and pray for a steady flow come to faith and pray for a steady flow of men of men of men women and children to repent of their women and children to repent of their women and children to repent of their sin and trust in Jesus Christ to save sin and trust in Jesus Christ to save sin and trust in Jesus Christ to save them because we know there were all them because we know there were all them because we know there were all hopeless without without God that we've hopeless without without God that we've hopeless without without God that we've all sinned against the holy God of the all sinned against the holy God of the all sinned against the holy God of the universe we deserve death and judgment universe we deserve death and judgment universe we deserve death and judgment but Jesus Christ is the good news that but Jesus Christ is the good news that but Jesus Christ is the good news that he died in the cross to save us from our he died in the cross to save us from our he died in the cross to save us from our sin and we want to spread that message sin and we want to spread that message sin and we want to spread that message to the nation so pray that that message to the nation so pray that that message to the nation so pray that that message goes out pray that people turn 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