Becca Reynolds inside the Why, How & What of Raising Up Leaders

I've been directly involved in the I've been directly involved in the launch of over a dozen multi-site launch of over a dozen multi-site launch of over a dozen multi-site campuses through the churches I've led campuses through the churches I've led campuses through the churches I've led and half of them have been in movie and half of them have been in movie and half of them have been in movie theaters I'm convinced that every church theaters I'm convinced that every church theaters I'm convinced that every church leader should consider using a theater leader should consider using a theater leader should consider using a theater for your next campus or church plant for your next campus or church plant for your next campus or church plant they're flexible culturally relevant they're flexible culturally relevant they're flexible culturally relevant locations typically in the center of the locations typically in the center of the locations typically in the center of the community that you're trying to reach community that you're trying to reach community that you're trying to reach regal is the only theater company with a regal is the only theater company with a regal is the only theater company with a dedicated team of full-time consultants dedicated team of full-time consultants dedicated team of full-time consultants ready to help your church launched and ready to help your church launched and ready to help your church launched and succeed in a movie theater check out succeed in a movie theater check out succeed in a movie theater check out regal theater church com for more regal theater church com for more regal theater church com for more information on locations your church information on locations your church information on locations your church could use welcome to the seminary could use welcome to the seminary could use welcome to the seminary podcast are you looking for practical podcast are you looking for practical podcast are you looking for practical ministry help to drive your ministry ministry help to drive your ministry ministry help to drive your ministry further faster have a sinking feeling further faster have a sinking feeling further faster have a sinking feeling that your ministry training didn't that your ministry training didn't that your ministry training didn't prepare you for the real world hey prepare you for the real world hey prepare you for the real world hey you're not alone join thousands of you're not alone join thousands of you're not alone join thousands of others in pursuit of stuff that we wish others in pursuit of stuff that we wish others in pursuit of stuff that we wish they had taught in seminary buckle up they had taught in seminary buckle up they had taught in seminary buckle up and let's get started with this week on and let's get started with this week on and let's get started with this week on seminary podcast seminary podcast so seminary podcast seminary podcast so seminary podcast seminary podcast so glad that you decided to tune in you glad that you decided to tune in you glad that you decided to tune in you know every week we have church leaders know every week we have church leaders know every week we have church leaders on every Thursday that are from a lot of on every Thursday that are from a lot of on every Thursday that are from a lot of different churches from around the different churches from around the different churches from around the country and I've been looking for in country and I've been looking for in country and I've been looking for in today's conversation today with Pastor today's conversation today with Pastor today's conversation today with Pastor Rebecca Reynolds she's the next step Rebecca Reynolds she's the next step Rebecca Reynolds she's the next step pastor at a fantastic church valley pastor at a fantastic church valley pastor at a fantastic church valley creek church all the way from Texas creek church all the way from Texas creek church all the way from Texas always glad to talk to somebody in Texas always glad to talk to somebody in Texas always glad to talk to somebody in Texas you know that's like that's a good thing you know that's like that's a good thing you know that's like that's a good thing so a non-denominational church started so a non-denominational church started so a non-denominational church started in 1992 led by current senior pastor in 1992 led by current senior pastor in 1992 led by current senior pastor john stickel a great guy they have two john stickel a great guy they have two john stickel a great guy they have two campuses and another one in though in campuses and another one in though in campuses and another one in though in the works in buffalo new york which adds

the works in buffalo new york which adds the works in buffalo new york which adds an interesting fascinating conversation an interesting fascinating conversation an interesting fascinating conversation just in it in and of itself is one of just in it in and of itself is one of just in it in and of itself is one of the fastest growing churches in the the fastest growing churches in the the fastest growing churches in the country Becca thank you so much for country Becca thank you so much for country Becca thank you so much for being on the podcast today thanks rich being on the podcast today thanks rich being on the podcast today thanks rich for having me it's a pleasure and for having me it's a pleasure and for having me it's a pleasure and delight to be here oh this is wonderful delight to be here oh this is wonderful delight to be here oh this is wonderful so what I'd love for you to do is to so what I'd love for you to do is to so what I'd love for you to do is to start with you know kind of give us a start with you know kind of give us a start with you know kind of give us a sense of valley krieg if people were to sense of valley krieg if people were to sense of valley krieg if people were to show up this weekend what would they show up this weekend what would they show up this weekend what would they experience and then tell us about your experience and then tell us about your experience and then tell us about your role I think you're the first next steps role I think you're the first next steps role I think you're the first next steps pastor I've bumped into there's a lot of pastor I've bumped into there's a lot of pastor I've bumped into there's a lot of people that have that in their portfolio people that have that in their portfolio people that have that in their portfolio love that that's your you know your love that that's your you know your love that that's your you know your primary focus so tell us about that okay primary focus so tell us about that okay primary focus so tell us about that okay great well let me tell you about valley great well let me tell you about valley great well let me tell you about valley creek so it is we are right here in the creek so it is we are right here in the creek so it is we are right here in the heartbeat of the dallas-fort worth area heartbeat of the dallas-fort worth area heartbeat of the dallas-fort worth area so i hope that your viewers will bear so i hope that your viewers will bear so i hope that your viewers will bear with my accent with my accent with my accent I am a native Texas so we are just I am a native Texas so we are just I am a native Texas so we are just having a blast here in the area I would having a blast here in the area I would having a blast here in the area I would describe valley creek as on the weekend describe valley creek as on the weekend describe valley creek as on the weekend we're real presents based church so we we're real presents based church so we we're real presents based church so we don't do a lot of programs we picked a don't do a lot of programs we picked a don't do a lot of programs we picked a few things that we really want to focus few things that we really want to focus few things that we really want to focus in on to do as well as we can and so our in on to do as well as we can and so our in on to do as well as we can and so our weekend experiences we're trying to weekend experiences we're trying to weekend experiences we're trying to maximize that time we know that time is maximize that time we know that time is maximize that time we know that time is a precious commodity for people so we do a precious commodity for people so we do a precious commodity for people so we do the best we can to just create an the best we can to just create an the best we can to just create an environment where people can really environment where people can really environment where people can really encounter the presence of God so worship encounter the presence of God so worship encounter the presence of God so worship is a big deal with us are elements that is a big deal with us are elements that is a big deal with us are elements that we try to do our media elements we try we try to do our media elements we try we try to do our media elements we try to engage people as best as we can and to engage people as best as we can and to engage people as best as we can and just help them to really encounter God just help them to really encounter God just help them to really encounter God whenever they are here so that's kind of whenever they are here so that's kind of whenever they are here so that's kind of what it would look and feel like we're a what it would look and feel like we're a what it would look and feel like we're a very diverse church we have lots of very diverse church we have lots of very diverse church we have lots of different socio-economic courage lots of different socio-economic courage lots of different socio-economic courage lots of different ethnicities and so that's kind different ethnicities and so that's kind different ethnicities and so that's kind of what it would look like on a weekend of what it would look like on a weekend of what it would look like on a weekend if you were to come to valley creek if you were to come to valley creek if you were to come to valley creek church and have a lot of fun there as church and have a lot of fun there as church and have a lot of fun there as well yes fantastic it's great it really

well yes fantastic it's great it really well yes fantastic it's great it really is a great church if you haven't checked is a great church if you haven't checked is a great church if you haven't checked it out there do a lot of really really it out there do a lot of really really it out there do a lot of really really cool things so what are you tell us cool things so what are you tell us cool things so what are you tell us about your role give us a sense of what about your role give us a sense of what about your role give us a sense of what what do what are the next steps pastor what do what are the next steps pastor what do what are the next steps pastor do sure so the next steps pastor much my do sure so the next steps pastor much my do sure so the next steps pastor much my title itself is really a combination of title itself is really a combination of title itself is really a combination of other churches of an executive pastor an other churches of an executive pastor an other churches of an executive pastor an associate pastor so it's just that those associate pastor so it's just that those associate pastor so it's just that those really aren't part of our vocabulary and really aren't part of our vocabulary and really aren't part of our vocabulary and so culture is really important to us so culture is really important to us so culture is really important to us vocabulary is really important to us so vocabulary is really important to us so vocabulary is really important to us so as the next steps pastor I'm really just as the next steps pastor I'm really just as the next steps pastor I'm really just being that advocate for all of our being that advocate for all of our being that advocate for all of our ministries to accomplish our goal our ministries to accomplish our goal our ministries to accomplish our goal our business to help people take the next business to help people take the next business to help people take the next step on their journey with Jesus and so step on their journey with Jesus and so step on their journey with Jesus and so really that's what I do I'm kind of the really that's what I do I'm kind of the really that's what I do I'm kind of the quarterback of the team just to help quarterback of the team just to help quarterback of the team just to help make sure everybody kids ministries are make sure everybody kids ministries are make sure everybody kids ministries are students adults operations everything students adults operations everything students adults operations everything behind the scenes in front of the scenes behind the scenes in front of the scenes behind the scenes in front of the scenes just helping make sure that they're all just helping make sure that they're all just helping make sure that they're all moving the ball down the field if you moving the ball down the field if you moving the ball down the field if you will and really taking next steps in will and really taking next steps in will and really taking next steps in helping people well there's the joke helping people well there's the joke helping people well there's the joke here obviously the fact that your job here obviously the fact that your job here obviously the fact that your job title is in the vision statement of the title is in the vision statement of the title is in the vision statement of the church I call that job security you know church I call that job security you know church I call that job security you know can't cut that job there's nothing like can't cut that job there's nothing like can't cut that job there's nothing like that very cool that's very cool so Becca that very cool that's very cool so Becca that very cool that's very cool so Becca why don't we talk about leadership why don't we talk about leadership why don't we talk about leadership development I know in a fast-growing development I know in a fast-growing development I know in a fast-growing church churches are constantly trying to church churches are constantly trying to church churches are constantly trying to think about particularly that next step think about particularly that next step think about particularly that next step as people are thinking about how do I as people are thinking about how do I as people are thinking about how do I get plugged into leading what is it that get plugged into leading what is it that get plugged into leading what is it that you're doing give us a sense of you know you're doing give us a sense of you know you're doing give us a sense of you know what does that look like for valley what does that look like for valley what does that look like for valley creek you bet to me leadership creek you bet to me leadership creek you bet to me leadership development is a great topic to have a development is a great topic to have a development is a great topic to have a discussion around because I have never discussion around because I have never discussion around because I have never met yet never yet met a ministry leader met yet never yet met a ministry leader met yet never yet met a ministry leader who says I've got all these leaders who says I've got all these leaders who says I've got all these leaders gotta know what riot close your talents gotta know what riot close your talents gotta know what riot close your talents I think that we're all trying to journey I think that we're all trying to journey I think that we're all trying to journey with so for us at valley creek it really

with so for us at valley creek it really with so for us at valley creek it really became important we knew it was going to became important we knew it was going to became important we knew it was going to be an important call on our house if you be an important call on our house if you be an important call on our house if you will for us we believe that we're all will for us we believe that we're all will for us we believe that we're all called to make disciples and by virtue called to make disciples and by virtue called to make disciples and by virtue of that being a disciple it means that of that being a disciple it means that of that being a disciple it means that were created in the image of God we have were created in the image of God we have were created in the image of God we have the mind of Christ you have the holy the mind of Christ you have the holy the mind of Christ you have the holy spirit within us so by virtue of that we spirit within us so by virtue of that we spirit within us so by virtue of that we are leaders and that's what we're called are leaders and that's what we're called are leaders and that's what we're called to do we are called to be here to be to do we are called to be here to be to do we are called to be here to be leading and releasing the kingdom so leading and releasing the kingdom so leading and releasing the kingdom so it's a pretty big why for us why that it's a pretty big why for us why that it's a pretty big why for us why that was important is because it's really was important is because it's really was important is because it's really have a heartbeat of who we believe that have a heartbeat of who we believe that have a heartbeat of who we believe that God has created all of us to be a leader God has created all of us to be a leader God has created all of us to be a leader and so it's not just about getting and so it's not just about getting and so it's not just about getting people into the church letting the meet people into the church letting the meet people into the church letting the meet Christ being saved and serving for us Christ being saved and serving for us Christ being saved and serving for us that's where it really starts we want to that's where it really starts we want to that's where it really starts we want to see them to develop into becoming see them to develop into becoming see them to develop into becoming everything that God desires for them to everything that God desires for them to everything that God desires for them to be and leading in whatever atmosphere be and leading in whatever atmosphere be and leading in whatever atmosphere there in in their homes and the there in in their homes and the there in in their homes and the workplaces in their schools in the workplaces in their schools in the workplaces in their schools in the communities it's a really big why for us communities it's a really big why for us communities it's a really big why for us because it's what we believe that that's because it's what we believe that that's because it's what we believe that that's what God's desire is for all of us what God's desire is for all of us what God's desire is for all of us become a leader I think that's great I become a leader I think that's great I become a leader I think that's great I love that you're raising your entire love that you're raising your entire love that you're raising your entire churches you know you're asking any churches you know you're asking any churches you know you're asking any question you're asking a bigger question question you're asking a bigger question question you're asking a bigger question which is take leadership isn't just for which is take leadership isn't just for which is take leadership isn't just for a certain amount of roles of the church a certain amount of roles of the church a certain amount of roles of the church not just for like you know if you happen not just for like you know if you happen not just for like you know if you happen to have the right title at the end of to have the right title at the end of to have the right title at the end of your you know your job description that your you know your job description that your you know your job description that sort of thing it's for everyone we're sort of thing it's for everyone we're sort of thing it's for everyone we're asking everyone to lead in their area of asking everyone to lead in their area of asking everyone to lead in their area of influence at the end of the day you know influence at the end of the day you know influence at the end of the day you know leadership is is influence yeah that's leadership is is influence yeah that's leadership is is influence yeah that's not really cool now how what are some of not really cool now how what are some of not really cool now how what are some of the ways that you articulate that vision the ways that you articulate that vision the ways that you articulate that vision to people how do you actually kind of to people how do you actually kind of to people how do you actually kind of cast that vision to you know people at cast that vision to you know people at cast that vision to you know people at the church well the first how that we

the church well the first how that we the church well the first how that we really looked at is how do people hear really looked at is how do people hear really looked at is how do people hear the word leader and here's what we the word leader and here's what we the word leader and here's what we discovered is that people are scared to discovered is that people are scared to discovered is that people are scared to death about work that's true ok I just death about work that's true ok I just death about work that's true ok I just could be a leader all of a sudden just could be a leader all of a sudden just could be a leader all of a sudden just depending on what their experiences are depending on what their experiences are depending on what their experiences are that what they have defined lead or add that what they have defined lead or add that what they have defined lead or add I think they begin to disqualify I think they begin to disqualify I think they begin to disqualify themselves immediately and so one of the themselves immediately and so one of the themselves immediately and so one of the things that we realized would be things that we realized would be things that we realized would be important is to help them find their important is to help them find their important is to help them find their identity first to find their identity in identity first to find their identity in identity first to find their identity in Christ and realize that man we receive Christ and realize that man we receive Christ and realize that man we receive the grace of Jesus that gives us access the grace of Jesus that gives us access the grace of Jesus that gives us access to to God's heart and do to to God's heart and do to to God's heart and do we release our kingdom through that we release our kingdom through that we release our kingdom through that identity and once they have that identity and once they have that identity and once they have that security and their identity and who they security and their identity and who they security and their identity and who they are in him then we begin to foster it's are in him then we begin to foster it's are in him then we begin to foster it's almost a hunger to desire that they have almost a hunger to desire that they have almost a hunger to desire that they have been want to lead because so excited been want to lead because so excited been want to lead because so excited about what's happened in their journey about what's happened in their journey about what's happened in their journey but they want to tell other people well but they want to tell other people well but they want to tell other people well the minute that they start telling other the minute that they start telling other the minute that they start telling other people about what Jesus has done in your people about what Jesus has done in your people about what Jesus has done in your life guess what's happening they're life guess what's happening they're life guess what's happening they're really that's do it so just helping them really that's do it so just helping them really that's do it so just helping them to really kind of change their thinking to really kind of change their thinking to really kind of change their thinking and start to realize that when we say and start to realize that when we say and start to realize that when we say hey we think you'd be a great leader it hey we think you'd be a great leader it hey we think you'd be a great leader it doesn't mean that you're going to be doesn't mean that you're going to be doesn't mean that you're going to be trying to give platform communication trying to give platform communication trying to give platform communication pieces or that you're going to have 130 pieces or that you're going to have 130 pieces or that you're going to have 130 esters that you have to email everybody esters that you have to email everybody esters that you have to email everybody shows off that it really is about just shows off that it really is about just shows off that it really is about just seeing yourself differently and once seeing yourself differently and once seeing yourself differently and once you're able to see the identity of a you're able to see the identity of a you're able to see the identity of a leader and man everything to start suppl leader and man everything to start suppl leader and man everything to start suppl over there now how are you casting that over there now how are you casting that over there now how are you casting that vision what does that look like you know vision what does that look like you know vision what does that look like you know what's the mechanism by which you're what's the mechanism by which you're what's the mechanism by which you're doing that that's three sunday through doing that that's three sunday through doing that that's three sunday through you know kind of get like an onboarding you know kind of get like an onboarding you know kind of get like an onboarding process what does that look like where process what does that look like where process what does that look like where you're you know you're you're getting a you're you know you're you're getting a you're you know you're you're getting a chance to communicate that Teresa people chance to communicate that Teresa people chance to communicate that Teresa people we do and it's one of those things where

we do and it's one of those things where we do and it's one of those things where for us leadership development doesn't for us leadership development doesn't for us leadership development doesn't come through anyone mean right i mean come through anyone mean right i mean come through anyone mean right i mean say that leadership isn't everything or say that leadership isn't everything or say that leadership isn't everything or to nothing so if you literally have a to nothing so if you literally have a to nothing so if you literally have a strategic process if you will that strategic process if you will that strategic process if you will that starts even with our kids ministry you starts even with our kids ministry you starts even with our kids ministry you have things in our kindergarten in our have things in our kindergarten in our have things in our kindergarten in our first grade room different those kids first grade room different those kids first grade room different those kids that man's there there there there that man's there there there there that man's there there there there following their tracking with us we have following their tracking with us we have following their tracking with us we have different little leadership different little leadership different little leadership opportunities for them that they step opportunities for them that they step opportunities for them that they step into we have a very structured program into we have a very structured program into we have a very structured program if you will this for our HUD students if you will this for our HUD students if you will this for our HUD students that our students street and we just that our students street and we just that our students street and we just have different opportunities but we have different opportunities but we have different opportunities but we talked about it in every aspect we have talked about it in every aspect we have talked about it in every aspect we have a way that we invite people into valley a way that we invite people into valley a way that we invite people into valley creek would take up to something we call creek would take up to something we call creek would take up to something we call the pathway for steps of the class if the pathway for steps of the class if the pathway for steps of the class if you will and we begin talking about it you will and we begin talking about it you will and we begin talking about it in the very first moment that they come in the very first moment that they come in the very first moment that they come in playing dependent we think that's in playing dependent we think that's in playing dependent we think that's that God has called you to carry his that God has called you to carry his that God has called you to carry his kingdom he's caused you to be a person kingdom he's caused you to be a person kingdom he's caused you to be a person of influence for us that's what it looks of influence for us that's what it looks of influence for us that's what it looks like to be a leader so we're just give like to be a leader so we're just give like to be a leader so we're just give you opportunities to develop at to grow you opportunities to develop at to grow you opportunities to develop at to grow into that potential with everything that into that potential with everything that into that potential with everything that you have so it'll slowly start from the you have so it'll slowly start from the you have so it'll slowly start from the first time that they come into the house first time that they come into the house first time that they come into the house we're regardless of what aids are in for we're regardless of what aids are in for we're regardless of what aids are in for what that's very cool yeah the thing I what that's very cool yeah the thing I what that's very cool yeah the thing I love about that is and I want you to love about that is and I want you to love about that is and I want you to lean in leaders who are listening in on lean in leaders who are listening in on lean in leaders who are listening in on this today churches that are growing and this today churches that are growing and this today churches that are growing and are making an impact in are making an impact in are making an impact in their communities this is a core to what their communities this is a core to what their communities this is a core to what they do which is constantly raising they do which is constantly raising they do which is constantly raising people up to make it influence to make people up to make it influence to make people up to make it influence to make an impact in their in their communities an impact in their in their communities an impact in their in their communities and now would you say you know Becca and now would you say you know Becca and now would you say you know Becca what's the connection between or how is what's the connection between or how is what's the connection between or how is God using this aspect of your ministry God using this aspect of your ministry God using this aspect of your ministry to continue to reach more people in your to continue to reach more people in your to continue to reach more people in your community I'm assuming it's connected

community I'm assuming it's connected community I'm assuming it's connected you and you would see that this fact you and you would see that this fact you and you would see that this fact that you're raising up leaders and that you're raising up leaders and that you're raising up leaders and raising up everyone really to lead an raising up everyone really to lead an raising up everyone really to lead an influence that then ultimately is a part influence that then ultimately is a part influence that then ultimately is a part of what is God is using to reach out in of what is God is using to reach out in of what is God is using to reach out in your community it is and I'll give you your community it is and I'll give you your community it is and I'll give you kind of a two-part answer to that kind of a two-part answer to that kind of a two-part answer to that written the first thing is this we when written the first thing is this we when written the first thing is this we when we realize that we were asking the wrong we realize that we were asking the wrong we realize that we were asking the wrong questions we were asking this question questions we were asking this question questions we were asking this question is how do we connect people exactly what is how do we connect people exactly what is how do we connect people exactly what you're talking about all these people you're talking about all these people you're talking about all these people that are coming in especially about two that are coming in especially about two that are coming in especially about two years ago man we were in a big growth years ago man we were in a big growth years ago man we were in a big growth spurt and we're saying we've got these spurt and we're saying we've got these spurt and we're saying we've got these people how do we connect them and we people how do we connect them and we people how do we connect them and we realize we're asking the wrong questions realize we're asking the wrong questions realize we're asking the wrong questions right the question for us is how do we right the question for us is how do we right the question for us is how do we create environments to develop Jesus create environments to develop Jesus create environments to develop Jesus inspired leaders because it's people inspired leaders because it's people inspired leaders because it's people that are there not man-made or Jesus that are there not man-made or Jesus that are there not man-made or Jesus inspired then they're going to start inspired then they're going to start inspired then they're going to start leading they're going to start inviting leading they're going to start inviting leading they're going to start inviting they're going to start engaging in all they're going to start engaging in all they're going to start engaging in all the places that they are our outreach the places that they are our outreach the places that they are our outreach strategy is one word I guess two words strategy is one word I guess two words strategy is one word I guess two words our people we need to tell them before our people we need to tell them before our people we need to tell them before biggie just before Easter before biggie just before Easter before biggie just before Easter before Christmas we tell them you are our Christmas we tell them you are our Christmas we tell them you are our outreach strategy so with their rising outreach strategy so with their rising outreach strategy so with their rising up and they're leaning in to that up and they're leaning in to that up and they're leaning in to that leadership calling on their life then leadership calling on their life then leadership calling on their life then that's how they're bringing people in so that's how they're bringing people in so that's how they're bringing people in so that's the first kind of part of that that's the first kind of part of that that's the first kind of part of that the other is this we've really taken a the other is this we've really taken a the other is this we've really taken a look at the way that we conduct our look at the way that we conduct our look at the way that we conduct our gathering I said we're not a big a lot gathering I said we're not a big a lot gathering I said we're not a big a lot of trips that's big on programs and of trips that's big on programs and of trips that's big on programs and maybe even within the last probably 12 maybe even within the last probably 12 maybe even within the last probably 12 to 18 months we'd wings away from these to 18 months we'd wings away from these to 18 months we'd wings away from these really big mega gathering so i'ma tell really big mega gathering so i'ma tell really big mega gathering so i'ma tell you thank you we were seeing a great you thank you we were seeing a great you thank you we were seeing a great response I mean you know a thousand response I mean you know a thousand response I mean you know a thousand people come to a gathering but it was

people come to a gathering but it was people come to a gathering but it was becoming a challenge for us to identify becoming a challenge for us to identify becoming a challenge for us to identify in those thousand people okay who s if in those thousand people okay who s if in those thousand people okay who s if it really wants to lean in because if it it really wants to lean in because if it it really wants to lean in because if it wants to lean in on their walk and so wants to lean in on their walk and so wants to lean in on their walk and so we're doing a little bit of a shifting we're doing a little bit of a shifting we're doing a little bit of a shifting and now instead of a clean is Mecca and now instead of a clean is Mecca and now instead of a clean is Mecca gatherings we're having smaller gatherings we're having smaller gatherings we're having smaller gatherings busy two hundred people and gatherings busy two hundred people and gatherings busy two hundred people and we're spreading it out over the course we're spreading it out over the course we're spreading it out over the course of haters some opportunity you're of haters some opportunity you're of haters some opportunity you're hey ladies if you're what you're looking hey ladies if you're what you're looking hey ladies if you're what you're looking for this or hey guys we're having a guys for this or hey guys we're having a guys for this or hey guys we're having a guys gather get free to space in a row gather get free to space in a row gather get free to space in a row smaller setting so what that allows us smaller setting so what that allows us smaller setting so what that allows us to do is get to know them better to do is get to know them better to do is get to know them better interesting things I know where they are interesting things I know where they are interesting things I know where they are on their journey in in those on their journey in in those on their journey in in those environments that's when we can say you environments that's when we can say you environments that's when we can say you know what I really see elitist potential know what I really see elitist potential know what I really see elitist potential in you and then after they kind of dog in you and then after they kind of dog in you and then after they kind of dog eyes call back down because I think I'm eyes call back down because I think I'm eyes call back down because I think I'm not a leader then we can kind of start not a leader then we can kind of start not a leader then we can kind of start that that dialogue with it but invite that that dialogue with it but invite that that dialogue with it but invite that's fascinating okay let's put a that's fascinating okay let's put a that's fascinating okay let's put a little bit more meat on that what are little bit more meat on that what are little bit more meat on that what are giving an example of like maybe an event giving an example of like maybe an event giving an example of like maybe an event that you've moved away from and then that you've moved away from and then that you've moved away from and then pull apart what is that kind of pull apart what is that kind of pull apart what is that kind of mid-level 50 person you know 75 person mid-level 50 person you know 75 person mid-level 50 person you know 75 person what would be an example of an event what would be an example of an event what would be an example of an event like that that you know that you've gone like that that you know that you've gone like that that you know that you've gone towards sure so one of the things we towards sure so one of the things we towards sure so one of the things we moved away from this is past season this moved away from this is past season this moved away from this is past season this past ministry semester we normally do past ministry semester we normally do past ministry semester we normally do just that with you ain't men's or just that with you ain't men's or just that with you ain't men's or women's gathering okay and so we said women's gathering okay and so we said women's gathering okay and so we said let's just move away from that and let's just move away from that and let's just move away from that and instead we're starting some things that instead we're starting some things that instead we're starting some things that we're calling grow classes again it's we're calling grow classes again it's we're calling grow classes again it's all about growing and all about results all about growing and all about results all about growing and all about results and one of them was how to hear the and one of them was how to hear the and one of them was how to hear the voice of God and we sons that we had voice of God and we sons that we had voice of God and we sons that we had over over 80 people that came to that over over 80 people that came to that over over 80 people that came to that one class if you will but it was held one class if you will but it was held one class if you will but it was held for four consecutive weeks we did not

for four consecutive weeks we did not for four consecutive weeks we did not see attrition at all Ruth honest people see attrition at all Ruth honest people see attrition at all Ruth honest people sick they were excited they wanted to be sick they were excited they wanted to be sick they were excited they wanted to be there we have smaller environment so there we have smaller environment so there we have smaller environment so they could get to know each other it was they could get to know each other it was they could get to know each other it was very engaging and then it also gave our very engaging and then it also gave our very engaging and then it also gave our team an opportunity at the end of that team an opportunity at the end of that team an opportunity at the end of that to say hey I really saw the way you were to say hey I really saw the way you were to say hey I really saw the way you were engaging with that particular table can engaging with that particular table can engaging with that particular table can we have a look at lunch let's have we have a look at lunch let's have we have a look at lunch let's have coffee cannot talk to you about leader coffee cannot talk to you about leader coffee cannot talk to you about leader set which is also another process that set which is also another process that set which is also another process that we really help people to discover what we really help people to discover what we really help people to discover what being a kingdom leader looks like an being a kingdom leader looks like an being a kingdom leader looks like an example for very cool that's great you example for very cool that's great you example for very cool that's great you know I know I've said to people over the know I know I've said to people over the know I know I've said to people over the years the best so the best way to years the best so the best way to years the best so the best way to develop a leader is to sit across the develop a leader is to sit across the develop a leader is to sit across the table from them one-on-one you know just table from them one-on-one you know just table from them one-on-one you know just in too good to dive deep with them now in too good to dive deep with them now in too good to dive deep with them now the reality of it is if once your church the reality of it is if once your church the reality of it is if once your church gets over 200 people you can't do that gets over 200 people you can't do that gets over 200 people you can't do that anymore there's not fact there's just anymore there's not fact there's just anymore there's not fact there's just you you have to find whales to scale up you you have to find whales to scale up you you have to find whales to scale up but I think sometimes what we do is we but I think sometimes what we do is we but I think sometimes what we do is we look way too big we look so like well look way too big we look so like well look way too big we look so like well how do I just get 100 people in a room how do I just get 100 people in a room how do I just get 100 people in a room and just are 200 people or 500 people in and just are 200 people or 500 people in and just are 200 people or 500 people in the room and just shoot at them well the room and just shoot at them well the room and just shoot at them well that's either you can't do that you yes that's either you can't do that you yes that's either you can't do that you yes I wrote what is the smallest size group I wrote what is the smallest size group I wrote what is the smallest size group of people that's still an intelligent of people that's still an intelligent of people that's still an intelligent group size from a scale point of view group size from a scale point of view group size from a scale point of view but it's it's small enough that people but it's it's small enough that people but it's it's small enough that people can kind of get close and ask questions can kind of get close and ask questions can kind of get close and ask questions and dig in and I love that I think and dig in and I love that I think and dig in and I love that I think that's just fantastic that's that's that's just fantastic that's that's that's just fantastic that's that's great is there anything else you want to great is there anything else you want to great is there anything else you want to share on this this has been amazing you share on this this has been amazing you share on this this has been amazing you know that was anything else you want to know that was anything else you want to know that was anything else you want to share in this before we move on with the share in this before we move on with the share in this before we move on with the rest of today's episodes now like I said rest of today's episodes now like I said rest of today's episodes now like I said I think it's a great topic to discuss by I think it's a great topic to discuss by I think it's a great topic to discuss by no means do we have it figured out so i no means do we have it figured out so i no means do we have it figured out so i would i would appreciate any would i would appreciate any would i would appreciate any conversation with any of your neighbors conversation with any of your neighbors conversation with any of your neighbors and i want a dialogue about it more

and i want a dialogue about it more and i want a dialogue about it more we've got great things coming at valley we've got great things coming at valley we've got great things coming at valley creek we have two more campuses they creek we have two more campuses they creek we have two more campuses they will be launching soon we've got one in will be launching soon we've got one in will be launching soon we've got one in louisville one in denton so we're louisville one in denton so we're louisville one in denton so we're growing and so we're just decided to see growing and so we're just decided to see growing and so we're just decided to see this journey as it continues to play out this journey as it continues to play out this journey as it continues to play out so not the great oh I'd love to hear a so not the great oh I'd love to hear a so not the great oh I'd love to hear a little bit more about that now so you've little bit more about that now so you've little bit more about that now so you've got campuses that are close by but then got campuses that are close by but then got campuses that are close by but then you do have this like remote I kind of you do have this like remote I kind of you do have this like remote I kind of joked about it in the earlier you've got joked about it in the earlier you've got joked about it in the earlier you've got this like Buffalo New York campus give this like Buffalo New York campus give this like Buffalo New York campus give me an you know the one minute on that me an you know the one minute on that me an you know the one minute on that what's God doing there tell me that what's God doing there tell me that what's God doing there tell me that story you know it's too long of a story story you know it's too long of a story story you know it's too long of a story to get into the connection of a lot well to get into the connection of a lot well to get into the connection of a lot well long story short we have a couple of long story short we have a couple of long story short we have a couple of folks there that they just were watching folks there that they just were watching folks there that they just were watching valley creek online and they just valley creek online and they just valley creek online and they just responding what they were hearing God responding what they were hearing God responding what they were hearing God was amazing God was moving in their was amazing God was moving in their was amazing God was moving in their heart and so we said you know what let's heart and so we said you know what let's heart and so we said you know what let's just let's see where god leads us with just let's see where god leads us with just let's see where god leads us with this so we've determined a right level this so we've determined a right level this so we've determined a right level of resourcing for them we're in great of resourcing for them we're in great of resourcing for them we're in great communication with them we're watching communication with them we're watching communication with them we're watching them grow and we're not exactly sure them grow and we're not exactly sure them grow and we're not exactly sure where it's going to end up but we're where it's going to end up but we're where it's going to end up but we're really excited about what God to do to really excited about what God to do to really excited about what God to do to get it right now this is the uncinate get it right now this is the uncinate get it right now this is the uncinate podcast stuff you wish they taught in podcast stuff you wish they taught in podcast stuff you wish they taught in seminary well we're going to jump into seminary well we're going to jump into seminary well we're going to jump into the lightning round that part of the the lightning round that part of the the lightning round that part of the episode that we asked similar questions episode that we asked similar questions episode that we asked similar questions to everybody that's on the episode super to everybody that's on the episode super to everybody that's on the episode super privileged honored to have Beca Reynolds privileged honored to have Beca Reynolds privileged honored to have Beca Reynolds with us today from valley creek church with us today from valley creek church with us today from valley creek church fantastic church you should get a chance fantastic church you should get a chance fantastic church you should get a chance to get to know you know Becca what's an to get to know you know Becca what's an to get to know you know Becca what's an online resource that you're using these online resource that you're using these online resource that you're using these days that's helping you out i would say days that's helping you out i would say days that's helping you out i would say probably two of them ever notes and probably two of them ever notes and probably two of them ever notes and Trello and if the servers ever crash I Trello and if the servers ever crash I Trello and if the servers ever crash I will be curled up in the fetal position will be curled up in the fetal position will be curled up in the fetal position sent else because I rely on both of sent else because I rely on both of sent else because I rely on both of those tools a lot yes Evernote we've those tools a lot yes Evernote we've those tools a lot yes Evernote we've heard a lot about Alberto tell us about heard a lot about Alberto tell us about heard a lot about Alberto tell us about Trello tell us about this project Trello tell us about this project Trello tell us about this project management system oh man Trello is

management system oh man Trello is management system oh man Trello is awesome we use it across multiple awesome we use it across multiple awesome we use it across multiple ministry so we actually rely on it ministry so we actually rely on it ministry so we actually rely on it weekend we use it for our weekend weekend we use it for our weekend weekend we use it for our weekend services it helps us to stay in lifetime services it helps us to stay in lifetime services it helps us to stay in lifetime communication with all of our campuses communication with all of our campuses communication with all of our campuses and it also helps us inter ministry to and it also helps us inter ministry to and it also helps us inter ministry to be able to communicate everything from be able to communicate everything from be able to communicate everything from your facilities team to your platform your facilities team to your platform your facilities team to your platform team does everything to know a lot of team does everything to know a lot of team does everything to know a lot of time what time what time what going on it helps me I use it in a going on it helps me I use it in a going on it helps me I use it in a different way just to keep track of different way just to keep track of different way just to keep track of everything that's going in multiple everything that's going in multiple everything that's going in multiple ministries multiple campus locations ministries multiple campus locations ministries multiple campus locations great tool very cool that's that's very great tool very cool that's that's very great tool very cool that's that's very cool what is a book you've read in the cool what is a book you've read in the cool what is a book you've read in the last minute or maybe six months to a last minute or maybe six months to a last minute or maybe six months to a year that's had an impact on your year that's had an impact on your year that's had an impact on your thinking or ministry okay every book has thinking or ministry okay every book has thinking or ministry okay every book has my hands out here ready right now your my hands out here ready right now your my hands out here ready right now your life I have it with me as deaf and life I have it with me as deaf and life I have it with me as deaf and Rafael saturate yes book it's an easy Rafael saturate yes book it's an easy Rafael saturate yes book it's an easy book to take with you if you want to book to take with you if you want to book to take with you if you want to start a conversation on just give start a conversation on just give start a conversation on just give discipleship with some people who maybe discipleship with some people who maybe discipleship with some people who maybe or early in their journey and or early in their journey and or early in their journey and discipleship so luvin addressed doing a discipleship so luvin addressed doing a discipleship so luvin addressed doing a great job with your writing I'm in it so great job with your writing I'm in it so great job with your writing I'm in it so far very cool what does administer you far very cool what does administer you far very cool what does administer you look to you that's kind of inspiring you look to you that's kind of inspiring you look to you that's kind of inspiring you right now we are partnering with dr. veo right now we are partnering with dr. veo right now we are partnering with dr. veo it Saturn system South Africa there on it Saturn system South Africa there on it Saturn system South Africa there on multiple places multiple cities and what multiple places multiple cities and what multiple places multiple cities and what we really love about them is we're like we really love about them is we're like we really love about them is we're like minded in a lot of ways but because minded in a lot of ways but because minded in a lot of ways but because their culture is just very different their culture is just very different their culture is just very different than the states they make challenges than the states they make challenges than the states they make challenges they keep a thinking differently they they keep a thinking differently they they keep a thinking differently they help us to innovate so yeah doc says a help us to innovate so yeah doc says a help us to innovate so yeah doc says a great is a great partner that we're great is a great partner that we're great is a great partner that we're learning from that's very cool that's learning from that's very cool that's learning from that's very cool that's great that's a good I love that you're great that's a good I love that you're great that's a good I love that you're pursuing people outside of your pursuing people outside of your pursuing people outside of your immediate kind of cultural context immediate kind of cultural context immediate kind of cultural context that's that's rattle you could get 15 that's that's rattle you could get 15 that's that's rattle you could get 15 minutes with any leader alive who would minutes with any leader alive who would minutes with any leader alive who would you want to get that with and why oh it you want to get that with and why oh it you want to get that with and why oh it would be two people it would be condi

would be two people it would be condi would be two people it would be condi rice first of all because I think she's rice first of all because I think she's rice first of all because I think she's phenomenal in less different ways would phenomenal in less different ways would phenomenal in less different ways would love to sit down and talk with her and love to sit down and talk with her and love to sit down and talk with her and Jimmy Cowan oh I love Jimmy Fallon laugh Jimmy Cowan oh I love Jimmy Fallon laugh Jimmy Cowan oh I love Jimmy Fallon laugh so yeah hang out was doing a dollar for so yeah hang out was doing a dollar for so yeah hang out was doing a dollar for 15 minutes absolutely I actually I got a 15 minutes absolutely I actually I got a 15 minutes absolutely I actually I got a chance to watch a shooting of the with chance to watch a shooting of the with chance to watch a shooting of the with jimmy fallon like to see him actually do jimmy fallon like to see him actually do jimmy fallon like to see him actually do his show one switchers it was about a his show one switchers it was about a his show one switchers it was about a year ago oh I get those two years ago year ago oh I get those two years ago year ago oh I get those two years ago now it was amazing it was a gap credible now it was amazing it was a gap credible now it was amazing it was a gap credible experience you don't know that was experience you don't know that was experience you don't know that was amazing about that was I just assumed amazing about that was I just assumed amazing about that was I just assumed that there would be like all this extra that there would be like all this extra that there would be like all this extra stuff that happened but actually what stuff that happened but actually what stuff that happened but actually what you're seeing on the show is basically you're seeing on the show is basically you're seeing on the show is basically like they just go from one thing to the like they just go from one thing to the like they just go from one thing to the next week take even though they would next week take even though they would next week take even though they would pre-tape it they don't you know they pre-tape it they don't you know they pre-tape it they don't you know they don't really have a lot of other stuff don't really have a lot of other stuff don't really have a lot of other stuff it was interesting that's fascinating it was interesting that's fascinating it was interesting that's fascinating well anyway that's cool in your personal well anyway that's cool in your personal well anyway that's cool in your personal life I know you know busy you know doing life I know you know busy you know doing life I know you know busy you know doing a role that you're doing is demanding a role that you're doing is demanding a role that you're doing is demanding but what do you do just to relax to kick but what do you do just to relax to kick but what do you do just to relax to kick back you don't have some fun I don't do back you don't have some fun I don't do back you don't have some fun I don't do this often as I like to but what my most this often as I like to but what my most this often as I like to but what my most fun thing in the world is all of the fun thing in the world is all of the fun thing in the world is all of the scuba dive so had a chance scuba dive so had a chance scuba dive so had a chance big diver not had a chance about a year big diver not had a chance about a year big diver not had a chance about a year and a half ago we were down visiting our and a half ago we were down visiting our and a half ago we were down visiting our friends and oxen at Cape Town and I got friends and oxen at Cape Town and I got friends and oxen at Cape Town and I got to go and do some cage diving with great to go and do some cage diving with great to go and do some cage diving with great white sharks oh they run out rich if you white sharks oh they run out rich if you white sharks oh they run out rich if you wonder if you know Jesus you just see wonder if you know Jesus you just see wonder if you know Jesus you just see one of those things wouldn't buy you one of those things wouldn't buy you one of those things wouldn't buy you make eye contact and you will be talking make eye contact and you will be talking make eye contact and you will be talking to the Lord will quit but love to see to the Lord will quit but love to see to the Lord will quit but love to see that love the scuba dives best thing that love the scuba dives best thing that love the scuba dives best thing that's crazy that's amazing that's so that's crazy that's amazing that's so that's crazy that's amazing that's so cool well I really appreciate be on the cool well I really appreciate be on the cool well I really appreciate be on the show today Becca if people want to get show today Becca if people want to get show today Becca if people want to get in touch with you or with the church in touch with you or with the church in touch with you or with the church what's the best way for them to do that what's the best way for them to do that what's the best way for them to do that valley creek torg everything goes right

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