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Expats Everywhere August 15, 2026 16m

She Said She Wanted to Go Home... to Portugal

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  1. Last night of our trip, we're up on the Last night of our trip, we're up on the hotel roof in Miami, just finished hotel roof in Miami, just finished hotel roof in Miami, just finished swimming. About to fly back to Portugal swimming. About to fly back to Portugal swimming. About to fly back to Portugal the next day, and I asked my daughter, the next day, and I asked my daughter, the next day, and I asked my daughter, kind of out of curiosity, kind of out of curiosity, kind of out of curiosity, "What do you think about Miami? "What do you think about Miami? "What do you think about Miami? Do you like it?" And she just said, "I Do you like it?" And she just said, "I Do you like it?" And she just said, "I want to go home. want to go home. want to go home. This isn't home." This isn't home." This isn't home." And Kaylee and I looked at each other, And Kaylee and I looked at each other, And Kaylee and I looked at each other, and we agreed, "No, and we agreed, "No, and we agreed, "No, this isn't home." >> For quick context, we have just spent 6 >> For quick context, we have just spent 6 weeks in the US, visiting different weeks in the US, visiting different weeks in the US, visiting different cities, family members, and friends. We cities, family members, and friends. We cities, family members, and friends. We literally had the ultimate summer, going literally had the ultimate summer, going literally had the ultimate summer, going to a World Cup match in Philadelphia, C to a World Cup match in Philadelphia, C to a World Cup match in Philadelphia, C Cia's first baseball game in Baltimore, Cia's first baseball game in Baltimore, Cia's first baseball game in Baltimore, visiting her first theme park in visiting her first theme park in visiting her first theme park in Dollywood, which by the way, Dolly Dollywood, which by the way, Dolly Dollywood, which by the way, Dolly Parton is one of Cia's heroes. Then she Parton is one of Cia's heroes. Then she Parton is one of Cia's heroes. Then she got to experience her first 4th of July got to experience her first 4th of July got to experience her first 4th of July in America, with a parade, fireworks, in America, with a parade, fireworks, in America, with a parade, fireworks, and all the fun things there. To top and all the fun things there. To top and all the fun things there. To top that, my mom fulfilled her goal of that, my mom fulfilled her goal of that, my mom fulfilled her goal of taking Cia to Disney World. Yes, the taking Cia to Disney World. Yes, the taking Cia to Disney World. Yes, the real Disney World in Orlando. And then real Disney World in Orlando. And then real Disney World in Orlando. And then we get to celebrate an anniversary with we get to celebrate an anniversary with we get to celebrate an anniversary with Josh's family on a Caribbean cruise.

  2. Josh's family on a Caribbean cruise. Josh's family on a Caribbean cruise. So, we get off the ship. So, we get off the ship. So, we get off the ship. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> It's our last night in Miami, a city >> It's our last night in Miami, a city >> It's our last night in Miami, a city that Josh and I love because it has a that Josh and I love because it has a that Josh and I love because it has a different energy and feels very different energy and feels very different energy and feels very multicultural for America. multicultural for America. multicultural for America. Josh was just curious if she liked it, Josh was just curious if she liked it, Josh was just curious if she liked it, and we were both really surprised at her and we were both really surprised at her and we were both really surprised at her honest take. So, it got us thinking, what does she So, it got us thinking, what does she actually miss about Porto? Was it actually miss about Porto? Was it actually miss about Porto? Was it something like a feeling or a routine or something like a feeling or a routine or something like a feeling or a routine or a person back in Porto? a person back in Porto? a person back in Porto? And honestly, I think that it has to do And honestly, I think that it has to do And honestly, I think that it has to do a lot with the routine. I think that she a lot with the routine. I think that she a lot with the routine. I think that she knows what knows what knows what >> going to say the same thing. >> going to say the same thing. >> going to say the same thing. >> Yeah, she knows what's expected here. >> Yeah, she knows what's expected here. >> Yeah, she knows what's expected here. She's got her own room, she's got her She's got her own room, she's got her She's got her own room, she's got her school, she's got her friends. And so, I school, she's got her friends. And so, I school, she's got her friends. And so, I think that when you travel, obviously, think that when you travel, obviously, think that when you travel, obviously, you lack that type of routine. And it's you lack that type of routine. And it's you lack that type of routine. And it's fun, and it's good for a bit, but I fun, and it's good for a bit, but I fun, and it's good for a bit, but I think especially with kids, and even think especially with kids, and even think especially with kids, and even adults, it's nice to get back into like adults, it's nice to get back into like adults, it's nice to get back into like what real life is like. what real life is like. what real life is like. >> But I also think that she misses her >> But I also think that she misses her >> But I also think that she misses her friends. She's got a good little core friends. She's got a good little core friends. She's got a good little core group of friends, and then her group of friends, and then her group of friends, and then her classmates, which all of that's going to classmates, which all of that's going to classmates, which all of that's going to change in the coming school year because change in the coming school year because change in the coming school year because she's going to a different school.

  3. she's going to a different school. she's going to a different school. But I definitely got the sense that it But I definitely got the sense that it But I definitely got the sense that it was both routine and then friends versus was both routine and then friends versus was both routine and then friends versus family, which is interesting. Something that we've not really wrestled Something that we've not really wrestled with is the idea of being a dual citizen with is the idea of being a dual citizen with is the idea of being a dual citizen or a dual national or having multi or a dual national or having multi or a dual national or having multi cultures kind of represent who you are. cultures kind of represent who you are. cultures kind of represent who you are. So, does Sia think of herself as So, does Sia think of herself as So, does Sia think of herself as American or Portuguese? Well, the American or Portuguese? Well, the American or Portuguese? Well, the answer's actually both. And she answer's actually both. And she answer's actually both. And she certainly has gotten different cultural certainly has gotten different cultural certainly has gotten different cultural things from us being Americans growing things from us being Americans growing things from us being Americans growing up in the in the US. And she didn't grow up in the in the US. And she didn't grow up in the in the US. And she didn't grow up in the US, but like we've imparted up in the US, but like we've imparted up in the US, but like we've imparted some of those things on her some of those things on her some of those things on her as we live our lives here in Portugal as we live our lives here in Portugal as we live our lives here in Portugal with her. with her. with her. And you can't really take away those And you can't really take away those And you can't really take away those aspects when you're in an American home aspects when you're in an American home aspects when you're in an American home while living abroad, but every time she while living abroad, but every time she while living abroad, but every time she leaves our front door leaves our front door leaves our front door like she's in Portugal and she she's like she's in Portugal and she she's like she's in Portugal and she she's Portuguese. She's definitely Portuguese Portuguese. She's definitely Portuguese Portuguese. She's definitely Portuguese about it at school. She's surrounded by about it at school. She's surrounded by about it at school. She's surrounded by Portuguese people. Her teachers are, Portuguese people. Her teachers are, Portuguese people. Her teachers are, although there is some Brazilian although there is some Brazilian although there is some Brazilian influence as well, but it's mainly influence as well, but it's mainly influence as well, but it's mainly Portuguese. So, she is definitely a bit Portuguese. So, she is definitely a bit Portuguese. So, she is definitely a bit of both, much more than we are, of both, much more than we are, of both, much more than we are, even though we've all spent the same even though we've all spent the same even though we've all spent the same amount of time here in Portugal amount of time here in Portugal amount of time here in Portugal together. She's spent the majority of together. She's spent the majority of together. She's spent the majority of her life in Portugal versus us. I mean, her life in Portugal versus us. I mean, her life in Portugal versus us. I mean, it's only been like a 1/7 it's only been like a 1/7 it's only been like a 1/7 if I'm doing the math right of of my if I'm doing the math right of of my if I'm doing the math right of of my life at least, a little less for you.

  4. life at least, a little less for you. life at least, a little less for you. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> But, you know, she's she's a dual >> But, you know, she's she's a dual >> But, you know, she's she's a dual national. >> I think what actually shocked me is that >> I think what actually shocked me is that this is the first time that she has said this is the first time that she has said this is the first time that she has said she wants to go home. And we travel a she wants to go home. And we travel a she wants to go home. And we travel a lot. And we actually talked to her lot. And we actually talked to her lot. And we actually talked to her about, "What do you think of this city? about, "What do you think of this city? about, "What do you think of this city? Do you like this city?" And so, it comes Do you like this city?" And so, it comes Do you like this city?" And so, it comes up a lot in conversation. So, it's not a up a lot in conversation. So, it's not a up a lot in conversation. So, it's not a weird question for Josh to ask. So, we weird question for Josh to ask. So, we weird question for Josh to ask. So, we were surprised at her answer on this one were surprised at her answer on this one were surprised at her answer on this one because we were in the US, and she's because we were in the US, and she's because we were in the US, and she's American. American. American. >> Yeah, it absolutely shocked me that she >> Yeah, it absolutely shocked me that she >> Yeah, it absolutely shocked me that she so quickly came out and said it like so quickly came out and said it like so quickly came out and said it like this because, like you said, I do ask this because, like you said, I do ask this because, like you said, I do ask this question a lot. I mean, it's not this question a lot. I mean, it's not this question a lot. I mean, it's not just for the videos that I ask this just for the videos that I ask this just for the videos that I ask this question. So, when I ask you, like, question. So, when I ask you, like, question. So, when I ask you, like, "Would you expat that?" Like, those are "Would you expat that?" Like, those are "Would you expat that?" Like, those are real conversations that we have outside real conversations that we have outside real conversations that we have outside of videos that we do. I mean, we we talk of videos that we do. I mean, we we talk of videos that we do. I mean, we we talk about whether or not we could live in a about whether or not we could live in a about whether or not we could live in a place. And granted, this question that I place. And granted, this question that I place. And granted, this question that I asked her wasn't so driven in that way, asked her wasn't so driven in that way, asked her wasn't so driven in that way, like, "Would you want to live in Miami?" like, "Would you want to live in Miami?" like, "Would you want to live in Miami?" It was more just out of curiosity. It was more just out of curiosity. It was more just out of curiosity. >> Right. And I think it's because we both >> Right. And I think it's because we both >> Right. And I think it's because we both like Miami. I mean, Miami is one of like Miami. I mean, Miami is one of like Miami. I mean, Miami is one of Josh's favorite cities in the US. So, Josh's favorite cities in the US. So, Josh's favorite cities in the US. So, [music] [music] [music] okay, his favorite. So, I think he was okay, his favorite. So, I think he was okay, his favorite. So, I think he was maybe hoping, like, "Hey, I like Miami.

  5. maybe hoping, like, "Hey, I like Miami. maybe hoping, like, "Hey, I like Miami. You should like Miami, too." So, maybe You should like Miami, too." So, maybe You should like Miami, too." So, maybe that's also a little bit of the factor. >> In that very moment, >> In that very moment, I had to resist pushing back I had to resist pushing back I had to resist pushing back because, like you said, like, I I love because, like you said, like, I I love because, like you said, like, I I love Miami, actually. I I have some small Miami, actually. I I have some small Miami, actually. I I have some small connections to Miami, but I love Miami. connections to Miami, but I love Miami. connections to Miami, but I love Miami. It's such a cool city. And I really It's such a cool city. And I really It's such a cool city. And I really wanted to like push back at Valencia and wanted to like push back at Valencia and wanted to like push back at Valencia and be like, "But why don't you like it? be like, "But why don't you like it? be like, "But why don't you like it? It's an amazing city. It's got this, It's an amazing city. It's got this, It's an amazing city. It's got this, this, and this." this, and this." this, and this." And I had to just take a step back and And I had to just take a step back and And I had to just take a step back and start asking follow-up questions that start asking follow-up questions that start asking follow-up questions that wouldn't try to like guide her down a wouldn't try to like guide her down a wouldn't try to like guide her down a certain answer. So, we ended up doing certain answer. So, we ended up doing certain answer. So, we ended up doing that. Like, you know, we started talking that. Like, you know, we started talking that. Like, you know, we started talking to her about what it means to to to be to her about what it means to to to be to her about what it means to to to be at home or what feels like home and why at home or what feels like home and why at home or what feels like home and why Porto feels home. Porto feels home. Porto feels home. >> Mhm. And I mean, she still is just six, >> Mhm. And I mean, she still is just six, >> Mhm. And I mean, she still is just six, so she's forming her own opinions, and so she's forming her own opinions, and so she's forming her own opinions, and this is the first time she remembers this is the first time she remembers this is the first time she remembers being in Miami. She's been there before being in Miami. She's been there before being in Miami. She's been there before as a baby, but her first time as a baby, but her first time as a baby, but her first time remembering it, and she's only in a remembering it, and she's only in a remembering it, and she's only in a small section of it, right? So, this is small section of it, right? So, this is small section of it, right? So, this is what she's thinking and feeling in the what she's thinking and feeling in the what she's thinking and feeling in the moment as well. Of course, also after moment as well. Of course, also after moment as well. Of course, also after being in the US for 6 weeks. So, I think being in the US for 6 weeks. So, I think being in the US for 6 weeks. So, I think that it was good because yeah, you don't that it was good because yeah, you don't that it was good because yeah, you don't want to impose on her like you should want to impose on her like you should want to impose on her like you should like this. Like we want to know you like this. Like we want to know you like this. Like we want to know you don't like this. Why don't you like don't like this. Why don't you like don't like this. Why don't you like this? Or is there something else that's this? Or is there something else that's this? Or is there something else that's actually underlying, which I think there actually underlying, which I think there actually underlying, which I think there was more underlying than just Miami.

  6. was more underlying than just Miami. was more underlying than just Miami. >> It felt that way. It felt heavy. But surprisingly, there were some things But surprisingly, there were some things that she did miss or really enjoy about that she did miss or really enjoy about that she did miss or really enjoy about being in the US that I think being back being in the US that I think being back being in the US that I think being back in Portugal, yeah, she's she is going to in Portugal, yeah, she's she is going to in Portugal, yeah, she's she is going to miss. And it it They're little things miss. And it it They're little things miss. And it it They're little things that make her feel very American. And I that make her feel very American. And I that make her feel very American. And I think that we saw that looking at some think that we saw that looking at some think that we saw that looking at some of like the World Cup reaction videos of like the World Cup reaction videos of like the World Cup reaction videos from foreigners traveling to the US that from foreigners traveling to the US that from foreigners traveling to the US that commented on what it was like being in commented on what it was like being in commented on what it was like being in America for the first time or things America for the first time or things America for the first time or things that they were experiencing. For that they were experiencing. For that they were experiencing. For example, her mind was blown that you example, her mind was blown that you example, her mind was blown that you could get refills at restaurants on soft could get refills at restaurants on soft could get refills at restaurants on soft drinks or or lemonades or whatever. drinks or or lemonades or whatever. drinks or or lemonades or whatever. >> She loved it. So, when we were at places >> She loved it. So, when we were at places >> She loved it. So, when we were at places where it was like you can't get a refill where it was like you can't get a refill where it was like you can't get a refill here, we had to say, "This you can't get here, we had to say, "This you can't get here, we had to say, "This you can't get a refill on." because she was just going a refill on." because she was just going a refill on." because she was just going through it at restaurants on the refill. through it at restaurants on the refill. through it at restaurants on the refill. She did love that. She did love that. She did love that. >> just suck a drink down to get the >> just suck a drink down to get the >> just suck a drink down to get the >> Just to get the refill. It was really >> Just to get the refill. It was really >> Just to get the refill. It was really funny. But I mean, even little things funny. But I mean, even little things funny. But I mean, even little things like we have friends who they live in a like we have friends who they live in a like we have friends who they live in a community where they take golf cart community where they take golf cart community where they take golf cart places and they've got like a community places and they've got like a community places and they've got like a community pool and stuff. And she thought that was pool and stuff. And she thought that was pool and stuff. And she thought that was the coolest thing ever. And I mean, the coolest thing ever. And I mean, the coolest thing ever. And I mean, that's not necessarily the way that we that's not necessarily the way that we that's not necessarily the way that we grew up. We didn't have that, but it is grew up. We didn't have that, but it is grew up. We didn't have that, but it is a part of certain cultures in different a part of certain cultures in different a part of certain cultures in different states and different cities in in the states and different cities in in the states and different cities in in the US.

  7. US. US. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And so, she thought that was the >> And so, she thought that was the >> And so, she thought that was the greatest thing. greatest thing. greatest thing. >> There are also certain foods that I >> There are also certain foods that I >> There are also certain foods that I think that she's going to miss. Um think that she's going to miss. Um think that she's going to miss. Um probably probably probably the ultra-processed foods. the ultra-processed foods. the ultra-processed foods. The ones that are like really tasty and The ones that are like really tasty and The ones that are like really tasty and bad for you. She bad for you. She bad for you. She >> crushing the mac and cheese. I mean, we >> crushing the mac and cheese. I mean, we >> crushing the mac and cheese. I mean, we can get that here. It's just not as can get that here. It's just not as can get that here. It's just not as common. And I think for a kid in the US, common. And I think for a kid in the US, common. And I think for a kid in the US, mac and cheese is a really is like a mac and cheese is a really is like a mac and cheese is a really is like a staple. It's on all the staple. It's on all the staple. It's on all the >> all the all the kids menus. >> all the all the kids menus. >> all the all the kids menus. >> Um and that's the other thing too that's >> Um and that's the other thing too that's >> Um and that's the other thing too that's really nice in the US is there's a lots really nice in the US is there's a lots really nice in the US is there's a lots of kids menus. Like when you go places, of kids menus. Like when you go places, of kids menus. Like when you go places, you have something like that is specific you have something like that is specific you have something like that is specific for the kids, and the mac and cheese is for the kids, and the mac and cheese is for the kids, and the mac and cheese is always on there. Uh whereas, it's not always on there. Uh whereas, it's not always on there. Uh whereas, it's not really like that here. So, she ate a lot really like that here. So, she ate a lot really like that here. So, she ate a lot of mac and cheese. of mac and cheese. of mac and cheese. >> For sure. So, she loved pool time with friends in So, she loved pool time with friends in Atlanta over July 4th, but it was all Atlanta over July 4th, but it was all Atlanta over July 4th, but it was all fun, and we need to really think about fun, and we need to really think about fun, and we need to really think about like, what's the difference between fun like, what's the difference between fun like, what's the difference between fun and home? and home? and home? >> I think that she was in the US, and so >> I think that she was in the US, and so >> I think that she was in the US, and so in her mind, it was like, "Okay, I'm in her mind, it was like, "Okay, I'm in her mind, it was like, "Okay, I'm from here, but I'm also traveling." And from here, but I'm also traveling." And from here, but I'm also traveling." And so, it's very temporary, and we did move so, it's very temporary, and we did move so, it's very temporary, and we did move around to lots of different cities and around to lots of different cities and around to lots of different cities and see a lot of different people. So, see a lot of different people. So, see a lot of different people. So, because we travel a lot, like I said, because we travel a lot, like I said, because we travel a lot, like I said, here we are just doing the same thing, here we are just doing the same thing, here we are just doing the same thing, but it's a bit of a almost a clash but it's a bit of a almost a clash but it's a bit of a almost a clash because it's travel, but also in my home because it's travel, but also in my home because it's travel, but also in my home country. So, what is the difference?

  8. country. So, what is the difference? country. So, what is the difference? Like, there was a lot of similarities in Like, there was a lot of similarities in Like, there was a lot of similarities in the travel and and the fact that we're the travel and and the fact that we're the travel and and the fact that we're transient, moving around a lot. transient, moving around a lot. transient, moving around a lot. And then here, obviously, at home, And then here, obviously, at home, And then here, obviously, at home, again, one of the big things is routine, again, one of the big things is routine, again, one of the big things is routine, and seeing the same people over and over and seeing the same people over and over and seeing the same people over and over as well. So, you've got your set of as well. So, you've got your set of as well. So, you've got your set of friends, whether that's at school or friends, whether that's at school or friends, whether that's at school or church or just who you live around. So, church or just who you live around. So, church or just who you live around. So, that set. So, I think that the that set. So, I think that the that set. So, I think that the difference is is one is more difference is is one is more difference is is one is more predictable, and the other, travel in predictable, and the other, travel in predictable, and the other, travel in the US, was not as predictable. So, she the US, was not as predictable. So, she the US, was not as predictable. So, she didn't know, so it was fun cuz it was didn't know, so it was fun cuz it was didn't know, so it was fun cuz it was new and different, and she didn't know new and different, and she didn't know new and different, and she didn't know what was coming, but there's only so what was coming, but there's only so what was coming, but there's only so much of that that she could take until much of that that she could take until much of that that she could take until she wanted back to routine. she wanted back to routine. she wanted back to routine. >> For sure. >> A lot of times you think of home as >> A lot of times you think of home as family, and so it's kind of crazy is family, and so it's kind of crazy is family, and so it's kind of crazy is we've done a lot of cruises, and we've we've done a lot of cruises, and we've we've done a lot of cruises, and we've done cruises with the family, but this done cruises with the family, but this done cruises with the family, but this one with Josh's family, it was the one with Josh's family, it was the one with Josh's family, it was the extended family. So, it was a lot of us. extended family. So, it was a lot of us. extended family. So, it was a lot of us. So, here we are on a ship for 7 days, So, here we are on a ship for 7 days, So, here we are on a ship for 7 days, lots of contact time with family, but lots of contact time with family, but lots of contact time with family, but yet still after that cruise, she says yet still after that cruise, she says yet still after that cruise, she says she wants to go home to Porto, where we she wants to go home to Porto, where we she wants to go home to Porto, where we don't actually have any family.

  9. don't actually have any family. don't actually have any family. >> Yeah, no family, and >> Yeah, no family, and >> Yeah, no family, and we started out in Miami, staying at the we started out in Miami, staying at the we started out in Miami, staying at the same hotel that we had this same hotel that we had this same hotel that we had this conversation, you know, on the rooftop. conversation, you know, on the rooftop. conversation, you know, on the rooftop. And that was with family. So, like there And that was with family. So, like there And that was with family. So, like there should be this memory of family at this should be this memory of family at this should be this memory of family at this same pool that we hung out with our same pool that we hung out with our same pool that we hung out with our family, the you know, Cia's extended family, the you know, Cia's extended family, the you know, Cia's extended family, her cousins family, her cousins family, her cousins a week before. And then we spent a whole a week before. And then we spent a whole a week before. And then we spent a whole week with family. week with family. week with family. But then the very next day, she's she's But then the very next day, she's she's But then the very next day, she's she's ready to go home. ready to go home. ready to go home. >> Mhm. So, maybe to her home is not >> Mhm. So, maybe to her home is not >> Mhm. So, maybe to her home is not necessarily family, or at least it's not necessarily family, or at least it's not necessarily family, or at least it's not extended family. It might just be extended family. It might just be extended family. It might just be because it's been the three of us for as because it's been the three of us for as because it's been the three of us for as long as she can remember that we are long as she can remember that we are long as she can remember that we are family and this is home. family and this is home. family and this is home. >> And I think that's legit. I think that >> And I think that's legit. I think that >> And I think that's legit. I think that we both feel that way. we both feel that way. we both feel that way. We left the US in 2009 We left the US in 2009 We left the US in 2009 and it was just us. In fact, we we and it was just us. In fact, we we and it was just us. In fact, we we weren't we weren't married at the time. weren't we weren't married at the time. weren't we weren't married at the time. Kaylee lived with a host family just Kaylee lived with a host family just Kaylee lived with a host family just outside of Madrid and I was living in outside of Madrid and I was living in outside of Madrid and I was living in the city. Then we moved in together the city. Then we moved in together the city. Then we moved in together after getting married after getting married after getting married um the the next year, but um the the next year, but um the the next year, but like we were each other's family and like we were each other's family and like we were each other's family and that was it. So, now that we have our that was it. So, now that we have our that was it. So, now that we have our daughter, there's not this idea of daughter, there's not this idea of daughter, there's not this idea of extended family extended family extended family being being being a part of home, which is very strange, a part of home, which is very strange, a part of home, which is very strange, but we get it.

  10. >> What's crazy is we had this amazing >> What's crazy is we had this amazing American summer. We did Disney and American summer. We did Disney and American summer. We did Disney and Dollywood. The World Cup was there. The Dollywood. The World Cup was there. The Dollywood. The World Cup was there. The 4th of July and it was the 250th, so it 4th of July and it was the 250th, so it 4th of July and it was the 250th, so it was really big, a really great summer. was really big, a really great summer. was really big, a really great summer. But it was interesting then that she had But it was interesting then that she had But it was interesting then that she had so much fun there, but yet she still so much fun there, but yet she still so much fun there, but yet she still wanted to go back to Porto where she wanted to go back to Porto where she wanted to go back to Porto where she called home. called home. called home. >> Yeah, I mean, the way kind of I >> Yeah, I mean, the way kind of I >> Yeah, I mean, the way kind of I rationalize all of that is there were rationalize all of that is there were rationalize all of that is there were all these amazing highlights and these all these amazing highlights and these all these amazing highlights and these fun things, but that's not what builds fun things, but that's not what builds fun things, but that's not what builds home and that home and that home and that isn't what necessarily connects her to isn't what necessarily connects her to isn't what necessarily connects her to America, to the United States. America, to the United States. America, to the United States. >> Yeah, I think even though we did all >> Yeah, I think even though we did all >> Yeah, I think even though we did all those fun things, I what really connects those fun things, I what really connects those fun things, I what really connects her is her family there. But, again, her is her family there. But, again, her is her family there. But, again, coming back to Porto where we have no coming back to Porto where we have no coming back to Porto where we have no family, it still feels more familiar and family, it still feels more familiar and family, it still feels more familiar and more home to her. more home to her. more home to her. >> Yeah, I think there's something about >> Yeah, I think there's something about >> Yeah, I think there's something about like the texture of the city, like the texture of the city, like the texture of the city, the the the the language that she hears, because I the language that she hears, because I the language that she hears, because I think she's very used to hearing both think she's very used to hearing both think she's very used to hearing both Portuguese and English on a daily basis, Portuguese and English on a daily basis, Portuguese and English on a daily basis, whereas whereas whereas in most of the time most of the time, in most of the time most of the time, in most of the time most of the time, not everywhere, we were hearing English.

  11. not everywhere, we were hearing English. not everywhere, we were hearing English. Okay, in Miami it was about 50/50, Okay, in Miami it was about 50/50, Okay, in Miami it was about 50/50, [laughter] but it was with Spanish. So, [laughter] but it was with Spanish. So, [laughter] but it was with Spanish. So, I think that also played its part, uh I think that also played its part, uh I think that also played its part, uh which is cool. It's interesting and it's which is cool. It's interesting and it's which is cool. It's interesting and it's cool. >> So, on a larger scale, we can think >> So, on a larger scale, we can think about what actually is home. What's home about what actually is home. What's home about what actually is home. What's home to adults? And what's home to kids and a to adults? And what's home to kids and a to adults? And what's home to kids and a 6-year-old? 6-year-old? 6-year-old? >> Well, certainly for me, routine is home. >> Well, certainly for me, routine is home. >> Well, certainly for me, routine is home. Um I was feeling very out of place uh Um I was feeling very out of place uh Um I was feeling very out of place uh spending the last 6 weeks traveling, not spending the last 6 weeks traveling, not spending the last 6 weeks traveling, not really being able to do the work that I really being able to do the work that I really being able to do the work that I love to do, and you having a place to love to do, and you having a place to love to do, and you having a place to sit, open up the laptop, or be on a sit, open up the laptop, or be on a sit, open up the laptop, or be on a computer, and and doing kind of that computer, and and doing kind of that computer, and and doing kind of that work and that routine had me internally work and that routine had me internally work and that routine had me internally feeling unsettled and unwell. Now, feeling unsettled and unwell. Now, feeling unsettled and unwell. Now, obviously, like she doesn't have that obviously, like she doesn't have that obviously, like she doesn't have that experience working like that, but there experience working like that, but there experience working like that, but there is something to that routine, whether it is something to that routine, whether it is something to that routine, whether it be, you know, her Monday to Friday going be, you know, her Monday to Friday going be, you know, her Monday to Friday going to school, waking up at a certain time, to school, waking up at a certain time, to school, waking up at a certain time, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> getting ready the same way, and going to >> getting ready the same way, and going to >> getting ready the same way, and going to school, and doing those routines, and school, and doing those routines, and school, and doing those routines, and then coming back, and then having the then coming back, and then having the then coming back, and then having the bedtime routine and all that. Uh I think bedtime routine and all that. Uh I think bedtime routine and all that. Uh I think it gives like comfort, that structure it gives like comfort, that structure it gives like comfort, that structure that not just kids need, but adults that not just kids need, but adults that not just kids need, but adults need.

  12. need. need. >> And not having your own space, too. I >> And not having your own space, too. I >> And not having your own space, too. I mean, even if you're staying in like mean, even if you're staying in like mean, even if you're staying in like your own hotel room, it's it's a your own hotel room, it's it's a your own hotel room, it's it's a temporary space, or an Airbnb, it's temporary space, or an Airbnb, it's temporary space, or an Airbnb, it's temporary space, or if you're staying temporary space, or if you're staying temporary space, or if you're staying with a family member, it's not your with a family member, it's not your with a family member, it's not your space. So, there's always that like space. So, there's always that like space. So, there's always that like uncomfortable feeling, and even though uncomfortable feeling, and even though uncomfortable feeling, and even though if you you know, you're clothes, it's if you you know, you're clothes, it's if you you know, you're clothes, it's fine, but it's just it's not your space. fine, but it's just it's not your space. fine, but it's just it's not your space. And so, again, that's another thing that And so, again, that's another thing that And so, again, that's another thing that makes it feel very like temporary and makes it feel very like temporary and makes it feel very like temporary and unpredictable. unpredictable. unpredictable. >> Well, one thing to reflect on that, just >> Well, one thing to reflect on that, just >> Well, one thing to reflect on that, just with you specifically, is how when we go with you specifically, is how when we go with you specifically, is how when we go to a hotel, if we're staying more than to a hotel, if we're staying more than to a hotel, if we're staying more than like overnight, Kaylee will definitely like overnight, Kaylee will definitely like overnight, Kaylee will definitely want to unpack and get everything out want to unpack and get everything out want to unpack and get everything out and have everything like in its place. and have everything like in its place. and have everything like in its place. And I used to not be that way, but I see And I used to not be that way, but I see And I used to not be that way, but I see the value in it now. the value in it now. the value in it now. >> not be that way either. >> not be that way either. >> not be that way either. >> But but there's like yeah, [laughter] >> But but there's like yeah, [laughter] >> But but there's like yeah, [laughter] but there's like something about having but there's like something about having but there's like something about having like feeling moderately settled like feeling moderately settled like feeling moderately settled somewhere. somewhere. somewhere. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh whereas when you just like have all >> Uh whereas when you just like have all >> Uh whereas when you just like have all your stuff stuffed in a bag and you your stuff stuffed in a bag and you your stuff stuffed in a bag and you don't actually take it out and you're don't actually take it out and you're don't actually take it out and you're just like literally like just pulling just like literally like just pulling just like literally like just pulling out items from, you know, a suitcase or out items from, you know, a suitcase or out items from, you know, a suitcase or a backpack in in our case.

  13. a backpack in in our case. a backpack in in our case. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's how we travel. But there's >> That's how we travel. But there's >> That's how we travel. But there's something about that, which I find something about that, which I find something about that, which I find really interesting, that we we kind of really interesting, that we we kind of really interesting, that we we kind of need our sense of space and the lack of need our sense of space and the lack of need our sense of space and the lack of that sense of space is so hard. I think that sense of space is so hard. I think that sense of space is so hard. I think it had me really demotivated to do it had me really demotivated to do it had me really demotivated to do anything that was part of what our anything that was part of what our anything that was part of what our normal routine here in Portugal is. normal routine here in Portugal is. normal routine here in Portugal is. >> Yeah, that's true. And I mean, if you're >> Yeah, that's true. And I mean, if you're >> Yeah, that's true. And I mean, if you're traveling for like 1 week or 2 weeks, traveling for like 1 week or 2 weeks, traveling for like 1 week or 2 weeks, then like generally goes by fast, so you then like generally goes by fast, so you then like generally goes by fast, so you don't really process it like this, but don't really process it like this, but don't really process it like this, but the fact that we were there for 6 weeks, the fact that we were there for 6 weeks, the fact that we were there for 6 weeks, I think is why we've processed it and I think is why we've processed it and I think is why we've processed it and probably why she has processed it even probably why she has processed it even probably why she has processed it even as a 6-year-old. >> When she immediately said her answer, >> When she immediately said her answer, we just agreed. Like on the spot, we we just agreed. Like on the spot, we we just agreed. Like on the spot, we were like, "You're right. This isn't were like, "You're right. This isn't were like, "You're right. This isn't home." And that surprised me. home." And that surprised me. home." And that surprised me. >> It surprised me, too. And I would like >> It surprised me, too. And I would like >> It surprised me, too. And I would like to see like if we did this again next to see like if we did this again next to see like if we did this again next year, when she's a year older, will she year, when she's a year older, will she year, when she's a year older, will she feel the same? Or as she gets older, feel the same? Or as she gets older, feel the same? Or as she gets older, what that is actually going to look what that is actually going to look what that is actually going to look like? Because she loves to travel the like? Because she loves to travel the like? Because she loves to travel the same way that we do. And again, like we same way that we do. And again, like we same way that we do. And again, like we said before, we always ask her what she said before, we always ask her what she said before, we always ask her what she thinks. And so, this is the first time thinks. And so, this is the first time thinks. And so, this is the first time that she's just like, "I want to go that she's just like, "I want to go that she's just like, "I want to go home." And part of it could have been home." And part of it could have been home." And part of it could have been because it had been 6 weeks and just because it had been 6 weeks and just because it had been 6 weeks and just being out of routine for a bit. But I being out of routine for a bit. But I being out of routine for a bit. But I think a lot of it, too, is she just think a lot of it, too, is she just think a lot of it, too, is she just loves Porto and she loves being here and loves Porto and she loves being here and loves Porto and she loves being here and and knowing what's here and having the and knowing what's here and having the and knowing what's here and having the familiarity of it.

  14. familiarity of it. familiarity of it. >> This was about as good a version of an >> This was about as good a version of an >> This was about as good a version of an American summer as we could give her. American summer as we could give her. American summer as we could give her. The World Cup, Dollywood, Disney, a The World Cup, Dollywood, Disney, a The World Cup, Dollywood, Disney, a cruise with her extended family, cruise with her extended family, cruise with her extended family, weeks with friends and cousins. And at weeks with friends and cousins. And at weeks with friends and cousins. And at the end of it all, on the last night, the end of it all, on the last night, the end of it all, on the last night, unprompted, she told us she wanted to go unprompted, she told us she wanted to go unprompted, she told us she wanted to go home. home. home. Not America, Not America, Not America, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Porto. >> Porto. >> Porto. >> And we don't know if that stays true. >> And we don't know if that stays true. >> And we don't know if that stays true. Home for a 6-year-old isn't fixed. It Home for a 6-year-old isn't fixed. It Home for a 6-year-old isn't fixed. It might look a little different in 5 years might look a little different in 5 years might look a little different in 5 years or 10 years or even after she's lived or 10 years or even after she's lived or 10 years or even after she's lived somewhere else entirely. somewhere else entirely. somewhere else entirely. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> But right now, this is where home is for >> But right now, this is where home is for >> But right now, this is where home is for her. And honestly, it's where home is her. And honestly, it's where home is her. And honestly, it's where home is for us, too. for us, too. for us, too. >> If you're raising a family abroad or you >> If you're raising a family abroad or you >> If you're raising a family abroad or you grew up as a kid abroad yourself, we're grew up as a kid abroad yourself, we're grew up as a kid abroad yourself, we're curious. Does home mean the same thing curious. Does home mean the same thing curious. Does home mean the same thing to your kids as it does to you? to your kids as it does to you? to your kids as it does to you? Tell us in the comments. We genuinely Tell us in the comments. We genuinely Tell us in the comments. We genuinely like to know. like to know. like to know. >> And if this is the kind of thing you're >> And if this is the kind of thing you're >> And if this is the kind of thing you're interested in, what it's like actually interested in, what it's like actually interested in, what it's like actually living abroad, we're doing this every living abroad, we're doing this every living abroad, we're doing this every week. So, subscribe if that's useful to week. So, subscribe if that's useful to week. So, subscribe if that's useful to you. Now, let's get moving.

  15. you. Now, let's get moving. you. Now, let's get moving. >> Bye.

Summary

The main theme is a child's perspective on "home" after an extensive family trip across the US. The conversation touches on her experiences at various American landmarks and activities, but ultimately, her strong desire to return to Portugal highlights the importance of routine and familiar social connections. The takeaway is that while travel is enriching, a sense of belonging and established routines are crucial, especially for children, in defining what "home" truly means.

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