Jonathan Gray On Coast to Coast Alternate History Pt 1

and tonight our very special guest and tonight our very special guest Jonathan Gray and we're going to be Jonathan Gray and we're going to be Jonathan Gray and we're going to be talking about ancient archaeology you talking about ancient archaeology you talking about ancient archaeology you just what did they do what did they know just what did they do what did they know just what did they do what did they know that somehow got lost over the ages that somehow got lost over the ages that somehow got lost over the ages Jonathan Gray knows we'll be back with Jonathan Gray knows we'll be back with Jonathan Gray knows we'll be back with him in a moment on coast to coast am him in a moment on coast to coast am him in a moment on coast to coast am Jonathan gray international Explorer Jonathan gray international Explorer Jonathan gray international Explorer archaeologist author he has travelled archaeologist author he has travelled archaeologist author he has travelled the world to gather data on ancient the world to gather data on ancient the world to gather data on ancient mysteries and over the past 37 years he mysteries and over the past 37 years he mysteries and over the past 37 years he has penetrated some largely unexplored has penetrated some largely unexplored has penetrated some largely unexplored areas in the course of his explorations areas in the course of his explorations areas in the course of his explorations Jonathan began to uncover evidence of Jonathan began to uncover evidence of Jonathan began to uncover evidence of very surprising out-of-place artifacts very surprising out-of-place artifacts very surprising out-of-place artifacts according to what he was taught at according to what he was taught at according to what he was taught at school this was impossible there simply school this was impossible there simply school this was impossible there simply could not have any they couldn't exist could not have any they couldn't exist could not have any they couldn't exist these were not just isolated anomalies these were not just isolated anomalies these were not just isolated anomalies there was also a global pattern to them there was also a global pattern to them there was also a global pattern to them suggesting an ancient worldwide suggesting an ancient worldwide suggesting an ancient worldwide civilization of astonishing proportions civilization of astonishing proportions civilization of astonishing proportions here he is back on coast to coast here he is back on coast to coast here he is back on coast to coast Jonathan gray Jonathan how are you very Jonathan gray Jonathan how are you very Jonathan gray Jonathan how are you very well thank you George and it's always well thank you George and it's always well thank you George and it's always good to hear you the very vibrant voice good to hear you the very vibrant voice good to hear you the very vibrant voice well I'm looking forward to time well I'm looking forward to time well I'm looking forward to time fighting a cold but it's still holding fighting a cold but it's still holding fighting a cold but it's still holding on that's the important thing on that's the important thing on that's the important thing I'm sure you'll win have you traveled I'm sure you'll win have you traveled I'm sure you'll win have you traveled since we last talked in June of last since we last talked in June of last since we last talked in June of last year well I have traveled but not so year well I have traveled but not so year well I have traveled but not so much in doing archaeological work as much in doing archaeological work as much in doing archaeological work as lecturing George did quite a deal of lecturing George did quite a deal of lecturing George did quite a deal of that well good for you you know the your that well good for you you know the your that well good for you you know the your one work dead man secrets that came out one work dead man secrets that came out one work dead man secrets that came out when around 2004 yes that's you know when around 2004 yes that's you know when around 2004 yes that's you know about the other one weapon of the about the other one weapon of the about the other one weapon of the globalist sphere that's a new one okay

globalist sphere that's a new one okay globalist sphere that's a new one okay that's just hitting the shelves now and that's just hitting the shelves now and that's just hitting the shelves now and that one I want to talk with you about a that one I want to talk with you about a that one I want to talk with you about a lot tonight Jonathan because you've lot tonight Jonathan because you've lot tonight Jonathan because you've uncovered a lot now let's let's talk a uncovered a lot now let's let's talk a uncovered a lot now let's let's talk a little bit about you first of all beyond little bit about you first of all beyond little bit about you first of all beyond the bio tell us who Jonathan gray is the bio tell us who Jonathan gray is the bio tell us who Jonathan gray is well Jonathan Gray is an archaeologist well Jonathan Gray is an archaeologist well Jonathan Gray is an archaeologist they had been involved in in front-line they had been involved in in front-line they had been involved in in front-line archaeology either lead or accompany archaeology either lead or accompany archaeology either lead or accompany it's about 25 important expeditions in it's about 25 important expeditions in it's about 25 important expeditions in South America the Middle East and Asia South America the Middle East and Asia South America the Middle East and Asia I've also published just over 50 book I've also published just over 50 book I've also published just over 50 book and I have an Internet and usually which and I have an Internet and usually which and I have an Internet and usually which goes out once a week around the world goes out once a week around the world goes out once a week around the world what got you interested in engine what got you interested in engine what got you interested in engine archeology George and I picked up a archeology George and I picked up a archeology George and I picked up a magazine in Australia which spoke of the magazine in Australia which spoke of the magazine in Australia which spoke of the British explorer who his name was Percy British explorer who his name was Percy British explorer who his name was Percy Fawcett he was actually a surveyor for Fawcett he was actually a surveyor for Fawcett he was actually a surveyor for the British government and he was the British government and he was the British government and he was surveying the borders of many of the surveying the borders of many of the surveying the borders of many of the South American countries which led him South American countries which led him South American countries which led him into the Amazon jungle and there he said into the Amazon jungle and there he said into the Amazon jungle and there he said he came across a dead City vine choked he came across a dead City vine choked he came across a dead City vine choked huge a walled city and it was just huge a walled city and it was just huge a walled city and it was just guarded by little fellows with blow guarded by little fellows with blow guarded by little fellows with blow pipes and poison darts and he went back pipes and poison darts and he went back pipes and poison darts and he went back to Britain and he he tried to get some to Britain and he he tried to get some to Britain and he he tried to get some help but they they wouldn't believe him help but they they wouldn't believe him help but they they wouldn't believe him so he went back with his son and he so he went back with his son and he so he went back with his son and he disappeared in the jungle and I thought disappeared in the jungle and I thought disappeared in the jungle and I thought my what an adventure that's going to be my what an adventure that's going to be my what an adventure that's going to be my first and it turned out to be I did my first and it turned out to be I did my first and it turned out to be I did go to the Amazon first yeah I mean this go to the Amazon first yeah I mean this go to the Amazon first yeah I mean this is all fascinating your work is just

is all fascinating your work is just is all fascinating your work is just absolutely stunning and you know I absolutely stunning and you know I absolutely stunning and you know I really think there's a lot of credence really think there's a lot of credence really think there's a lot of credence to it you know you mainstream science to it you know you mainstream science to it you know you mainstream science are they starting to look at the same are they starting to look at the same are they starting to look at the same you know what he could be wait yes under you know what he could be wait yes under you know what he could be wait yes under under the under the board under the under the under the board under the under the under the board under the table many of them are admitting that table many of them are admitting that table many of them are admitting that this was a lot of same service what kind this was a lot of same service what kind this was a lot of same service what kind of evidence did you have to uncover in of evidence did you have to uncover in of evidence did you have to uncover in order to convince yourself that things order to convince yourself that things order to convince yourself that things happened on this planet a long long time happened on this planet a long long time happened on this planet a long long time ago well I guess one of the first things ago well I guess one of the first things ago well I guess one of the first things I saw in the Amazon was Egyptian I saw in the Amazon was Egyptian I saw in the Amazon was Egyptian hieroglyphics on metal plates in the hieroglyphics on metal plates in the hieroglyphics on metal plates in the hands of natives that couldn't read all hands of natives that couldn't read all hands of natives that couldn't read all right and they said that their ancestors right and they said that their ancestors right and they said that their ancestors used to trade down the river to great used to trade down the river to great used to trade down the river to great ships that came in across the eastern ships that came in across the eastern ships that came in across the eastern sea that perked my interest but not sea that perked my interest but not sea that perked my interest but not enough yet I was writing a history book enough yet I was writing a history book enough yet I was writing a history book and it just kind of follow the and it just kind of follow the and it just kind of follow the traditional route of course and that in traditional route of course and that in traditional route of course and that in the course of this over 30 countries I the course of this over 30 countries I the course of this over 30 countries I began to dig up information that just began to dig up information that just began to dig up information that just didn't fit and there wasn't just one or didn't fit and there wasn't just one or didn't fit and there wasn't just one or two you mentioned this but they just two you mentioned this but they just two you mentioned this but they just wasn't one or two it started becoming an wasn't one or two it started becoming an wasn't one or two it started becoming an avalanche and then I saw a pattern avalanche and then I saw a pattern avalanche and then I saw a pattern globally and the pattern is what globally and the pattern is what globally and the pattern is what fascinated me there had to be a fascinated me there had to be a fascinated me there had to be a worldwide worldwide worldwide use of all these unusual things that we use of all these unusual things that we use of all these unusual things that we thought we are the first to invent thought we are the first to invent thought we are the first to invent you've done some work about what some you've done some work about what some you've done some work about what some people have said about the past in a new people have said about the past in a new people have said about the past in a new quote an atheist tell me about that yes quote an atheist tell me about that yes quote an atheist tell me about that yes perhaps the world's best-known atheist

perhaps the world's best-known atheist perhaps the world's best-known atheist is a gentleman in England mr. Dawkins is a gentleman in England mr. Dawkins is a gentleman in England mr. Dawkins Richard Dawkins Richard Dawkins years Richard Dawkins Richard Dawkins years Richard Dawkins Richard Dawkins years and he made a statement recently he and he made a statement recently he and he made a statement recently he actually came to Australia and he came actually came to Australia and he came actually came to Australia and he came for four times he made this statement he for four times he made this statement he for four times he made this statement he said I challenge anyone to submit said I challenge anyone to submit said I challenge anyone to submit out-of-sequence fossil finds that out-of-sequence fossil finds that out-of-sequence fossil finds that disprove evolution and then as soon as disprove evolution and then as soon as disprove evolution and then as soon as he left in New Zealand investigate he left in New Zealand investigate he left in New Zealand investigate magazine his disciple Warrick Dunn went magazine his disciple Warrick Dunn went magazine his disciple Warrick Dunn went a little further and he said evolution a little further and he said evolution a little further and he said evolution would be falsified if even one out of would be falsified if even one out of would be falsified if even one out of sequence fossil were ever found in the sequence fossil were ever found in the sequence fossil were ever found in the fossil record for example a possible fossil record for example a possible fossil record for example a possible human in the Carboniferous no such human in the Carboniferous no such human in the Carboniferous no such anachronistic fossils have ever been anachronistic fossils have ever been anachronistic fossils have ever been found and that was the agreement of both found and that was the agreement of both found and that was the agreement of both the gentleman sir well let me tell you the gentleman sir well let me tell you the gentleman sir well let me tell you if anything like that could have ever if anything like that could have ever if anything like that could have ever been found then what do you do all my been found then what do you do all my been found then what do you do all my well out of your own mouth you you say well out of your own mouth you you say well out of your own mouth you you say it's falsified yeah you'd have to think it's falsified yeah you'd have to think it's falsified yeah you'd have to think that yeah these ancients how far back that yeah these ancients how far back that yeah these ancients how far back are we talking about well we are talking are we talking about well we are talking are we talking about well we are talking about the earliest and then I'm going to about the earliest and then I'm going to about the earliest and then I'm going to say here that I'm not endorsing that we say here that I'm not endorsing that we say here that I'm not endorsing that we can get into this later on I'm not can get into this later on I'm not can get into this later on I'm not endorsing the the Year count of the endorsing the the Year count of the endorsing the the Year count of the evolutionary geological column but I am evolutionary geological column but I am evolutionary geological column but I am saying this that what they say is the saying this that what they say is the saying this that what they say is the earliest that's the Precambrian does earliest that's the Precambrian does earliest that's the Precambrian does contain human fossils as well and what contain human fossils as well and what contain human fossils as well and what would they what would that give us is a would they what would that give us is a would they what would that give us is a year Oh

year Oh year Oh 600 to 700 million years jeez in this on 600 to 700 million years jeez in this on 600 to 700 million years jeez in this on the evolutionary counting dating it the evolutionary counting dating it the evolutionary counting dating it could we tell if there was any could we tell if there was any could we tell if there was any intelligence at that time well the intelligence at that time well the intelligence at that time well the appearance of the the remains is well appearance of the the remains is well appearance of the the remains is well let me tell you this does what does a a let me tell you this does what does a a let me tell you this does what does a a silver bars manufacture its silver would silver bars manufacture its silver would silver bars manufacture its silver would be have to be manufactured by an be have to be manufactured by an be have to be manufactured by an exactly exactly and if they manufactured exactly exactly and if they manufactured exactly exactly and if they manufactured it they must have had tools to do it it they must have had tools to do it it they must have had tools to do it with absolutely and they were able to with absolutely and they were able to with absolutely and they were able to inlay silver into the grooves that they inlay silver into the grooves that they inlay silver into the grooves that they created so this was really sophisticated created so this was really sophisticated created so this was really sophisticated when I was a young boy Jonathan I used when I was a young boy Jonathan I used when I was a young boy Jonathan I used to think that this planet might have had to think that this planet might have had to think that this planet might have had civilizations hundreds of millions of civilizations hundreds of millions of civilizations hundreds of millions of years ago that just got covered up over years ago that just got covered up over years ago that just got covered up over the eons and you know maybe they're the eons and you know maybe they're the eons and you know maybe they're maybe they're buried one or two miles maybe they're buried one or two miles maybe they're buried one or two miles deep I don't know but I used to think deep I don't know but I used to think deep I don't know but I used to think that as a kid was a way offer oh no you that as a kid was a way offer oh no you that as a kid was a way offer oh no you were thinking right George and however were thinking right George and however were thinking right George and however you you sense that your intuition is now you you sense that your intuition is now you you sense that your intuition is now being exonerated yes in fact let me put being exonerated yes in fact let me put being exonerated yes in fact let me put it this way over in Pennsylvania coal it this way over in Pennsylvania coal it this way over in Pennsylvania coal miners digging down at very low levels miners digging down at very low levels miners digging down at very low levels about all say two miles below the about all say two miles below the about all say two miles below the surface of the ground doing a horizontal surface of the ground doing a horizontal surface of the ground doing a horizontal drive in mines like they call it the drive in mines like they call it the drive in mines like they call it the drives are the horizontal cutting this

drives are the horizontal cutting this drives are the horizontal cutting this underground they came flat bang against underground they came flat bang against underground they came flat bang against a dressed stone wall man-made wall two a dressed stone wall man-made wall two a dressed stone wall man-made wall two kilometres 33 kilometres two miles under kilometres 33 kilometres two miles under kilometres 33 kilometres two miles under the ground now when they reported that the ground now when they reported that the ground now when they reported that that drive was closed by the mining that drive was closed by the mining that drive was closed by the mining company under pressure from someone else company under pressure from someone else company under pressure from someone else and there's no way shifting plates could and there's no way shifting plates could and there's no way shifting plates could bring a city like that down there or bring a city like that down there or bring a city like that down there or structure would have been smashed to structure would have been smashed to structure would have been smashed to pieces would calamities cover it yes and pieces would calamities cover it yes and pieces would calamities cover it yes and I do believe that we looking at calamity I do believe that we looking at calamity I do believe that we looking at calamity here not a slow evolutionary buildup of here not a slow evolutionary buildup of here not a slow evolutionary buildup of ground around it and and and just slowly ground around it and and and just slowly ground around it and and and just slowly building up or three miles and depth two building up or three miles and depth two building up or three miles and depth two miles and depth what we're looking at miles and depth what we're looking at miles and depth what we're looking at here is catastrophe because we find much here is catastrophe because we find much here is catastrophe because we find much evidence right through all the layers of evidence right through all the layers of evidence right through all the layers of our planet through to all those our planet through to all those our planet through to all those so-called geological columns everywhere so-called geological columns everywhere so-called geological columns everywhere you go there's evidence of catastrophe you go there's evidence of catastrophe you go there's evidence of catastrophe catastrophic catastrophic catastrophic burial where things that could otherwise burial where things that could otherwise burial where things that could otherwise decay will be eaten by predators I found decay will be eaten by predators I found decay will be eaten by predators I found preserved with a color on them the food preserved with a color on them the food preserved with a color on them the food and sometimes in their stomachs or and sometimes in their stomachs or and sometimes in their stomachs or intestines and these had to be buried intestines and these had to be buried intestines and these had to be buried quickly before decay sitting could these quickly before decay sitting could these quickly before decay sitting could these ancient civilizations have possessed the ancient civilizations have possessed the ancient civilizations have possessed the kind of technology we have now could kind of technology we have now could kind of technology we have now could they have had cities with skyscrapers in they have had cities with skyscrapers in they have had cities with skyscrapers in buildings like we have no we have

buildings like we have no we have buildings like we have no we have reports from ancient records that they reports from ancient records that they reports from ancient records that they did and we we certainly have did and we we certainly have did and we we certainly have sophistication enough being dug up to sophistication enough being dug up to sophistication enough being dug up to show that that was possible then in my show that that was possible then in my show that that was possible then in my mind something happened and then there mind something happened and then there mind something happened and then there was a period of time could have been was a period of time could have been was a period of time could have been millions and millions of years where millions and millions of years where millions and millions of years where civilization was probably extinct and civilization was probably extinct and civilization was probably extinct and then it came back again is that possible then it came back again is that possible then it came back again is that possible it sounds very plausible George but I it sounds very plausible George but I it sounds very plausible George but I think I can produce evidence tonight if think I can produce evidence tonight if think I can produce evidence tonight if we have a time to do so that shows there we have a time to do so that shows there we have a time to do so that shows there was one enormous catastrophe on a world was one enormous catastrophe on a world was one enormous catastrophe on a world scale and I can prove that it was on a scale and I can prove that it was on a scale and I can prove that it was on a world scale and not jostle whole series world scale and not jostle whole series world scale and not jostle whole series of isolated small catastrophes added up of isolated small catastrophes added up of isolated small catastrophes added up together but one amazingly big together but one amazingly big together but one amazingly big catastrophe globally and that in all the catastrophe globally and that in all the catastrophe globally and that in all the layers laid down these layers are layers laid down these layers are layers laid down these layers are intermingle to the extent that you know intermingle to the extent that you know intermingle to the extent that you know that it was the one event if you know that it was the one event if you know that it was the one event if you know what I mean okay and when might that what I mean okay and when might that what I mean okay and when might that have happened well I'm going to I'm have happened well I'm going to I'm have happened well I'm going to I'm going to produce well I'm going to going to produce well I'm going to going to produce well I'm going to suggest now something quite suggest now something quite suggest now something quite revolutionary and I know this is going revolutionary and I know this is going revolutionary and I know this is going to make people's you know I'm going to to make people's you know I'm going to to make people's you know I'm going to suggest that we know the date it can be suggest that we know the date it can be suggest that we know the date it can be proved scientifically and that all proved scientifically and that all proved scientifically and that all ancient civilizations and you the date ancient civilizations and you the date ancient civilizations and you the date and let the record of it all right we and let the record of it all right we and let the record of it all right we will squeeze that data out of you by the will squeeze that data out of you by the will squeeze that data out of you by the end of this show we were I mean I I find end of this show we were I mean I I find end of this show we were I mean I I find this fascinating I mean because it tells this fascinating I mean because it tells this fascinating I mean because it tells me who we are what we might be where me who we are what we might be where me who we are what we might be where we're going where we may be going again

we're going where we may be going again we're going where we may be going again do you think they possessed the ability do you think they possessed the ability do you think they possessed the ability of you look at some of the the writings of you look at some of the the writings of you look at some of the the writings from India there were flying machines from India there were flying machines from India there were flying machines Vermonters do you think they went to the Vermonters do you think they went to the Vermonters do you think they went to the moon moon moon they went to Mars did they they went to Mars did they they went to Mars did they Vincent that they did let's give you one Vincent that they did let's give you one Vincent that they did let's give you one example the Chinese of course I'm not example the Chinese of course I'm not example the Chinese of course I'm not known for the affection an emperor way known for the affection an emperor way known for the affection an emperor way back early in history has said I have back early in history has said I have back early in history has said I have hit the scale on this he said anyone who hit the scale on this he said anyone who hit the scale on this he said anyone who writes fiction we're putting into law writes fiction we're putting into law writes fiction we're putting into law the fact that they will lose their head the fact that they will lose their head the fact that they will lose their head we only want fact to be passed down to we only want fact to be passed down to we only want fact to be passed down to our children now as we go into the our children now as we go into the our children now as we go into the Chinese writings of about the 3rd Chinese writings of about the 3rd Chinese writings of about the 3rd century BC we have a lot of writings at century BC we have a lot of writings at century BC we have a lot of writings at preserved for us which are now preserved for us which are now preserved for us which are now translated into English stating that translated into English stating that translated into English stating that travel to the moon was a common travel to the moon was a common travel to the moon was a common occurrence at least to the Chinese isn't occurrence at least to the Chinese isn't occurrence at least to the Chinese isn't that amazing that amazing that amazing I've always wondered whether our I've always wondered whether our I've always wondered whether our astronauts actually saw artifacts on the astronauts actually saw artifacts on the astronauts actually saw artifacts on the moon well each got that question because moon well each got that question because moon well each got that question because I talked to us I was walking up a high I talked to us I was walking up a high I talked to us I was walking up a high street Perth Western Australia the day street Perth Western Australia the day street Perth Western Australia the day when Armstrong walked on the moon and when Armstrong walked on the moon and when Armstrong walked on the moon and I'm not sure who was it was a buzz buzz I'm not sure who was it was a buzz buzz I'm not sure who was it was a buzz buzz aldrin was his number two guy aldrin was his number two guy aldrin was his number two guy Aldrin right he was orbiting wasn't a no Aldrin right he was orbiting wasn't a no Aldrin right he was orbiting wasn't a no no that was Michael Collins buzz was on no that was Michael Collins buzz was on no that was Michael Collins buzz was on the moon with him okay you're right the moon with him okay you're right the moon with him okay you're right and if you tell him he wasn't he'll and if you tell him he wasn't he'll and if you tell him he wasn't he'll punch you I agree with you now what

punch you I agree with you now what punch you I agree with you now what happened here was and I heard a happened here was and I heard a happened here was and I heard a broadcast which millions of people all broadcast which millions of people all broadcast which millions of people all over the world did hear it was live from over the world did hear it was live from over the world did hear it was live from the orbiting spacecraft where Collins the orbiting spacecraft where Collins the orbiting spacecraft where Collins was reporting what he was observing from was reporting what he was observing from was reporting what he was observing from above okay now before I speak of that oh above okay now before I speak of that oh above okay now before I speak of that oh no no no he said I look down there he no no no he said I look down there he no no no he said I look down there he said looks like there's a human a man my said looks like there's a human a man my said looks like there's a human a man my building look this is artificial and he building look this is artificial and he building look this is artificial and he went on for about 11 minutes went on for about 11 minutes went on for about 11 minutes bribing this artificial construction bribing this artificial construction bribing this artificial construction that he was certain was not natural now that he was certain was not natural now that he was certain was not natural now on subsequent broadcast that 11 minutes on subsequent broadcast that 11 minutes on subsequent broadcast that 11 minutes only those you live a minutes were only those you live a minutes were only those you live a minutes were deleted of course they don't want us to deleted of course they don't want us to deleted of course they don't want us to hear that hear that hear that oh no let's get back now to the Chinese oh no let's get back now to the Chinese oh no let's get back now to the Chinese records where they state that when they records where they state that when they records where they state that when they went to the moon it was cold went to the moon it was cold went to the moon it was cold there were there was no air algerie there were there was no air algerie there were there was no air algerie little air the sky looked black little air the sky looked black little air the sky looked black it was you were bouncy on the moon the it was you were bouncy on the moon the it was you were bouncy on the moon the the surface of the Moon looked a little the surface of the Moon looked a little the surface of the Moon looked a little glossy in the light now this is exactly glossy in the light now this is exactly glossy in the light now this is exactly what all our astronauts have told I know what all our astronauts have told I know what all our astronauts have told I know that I know that and this was how far that I know that and this was how far that I know that and this was how far back thousands of years here's two back thousands of years here's two back thousands of years here's two thousand three hundred years ago Who am thousand three hundred years ago Who am thousand three hundred years ago Who am I and something else they said that they I and something else they said that they I and something else they said that they constructed a building which they called constructed a building which they called constructed a building which they called the palace of cold CALD because of the the palace of cold CALD because of the the palace of cold CALD because of the temperature it's probably still there temperature it's probably still there temperature it's probably still there probably still there and could on my probably still there and could on my probably still there and could on my imagination runs riot sometimes George

imagination runs riot sometimes George imagination runs riot sometimes George and maybe this is not exactly what and maybe this is not exactly what and maybe this is not exactly what Collins saw but could he have actually Collins saw but could he have actually Collins saw but could he have actually seen that structure or are there other seen that structure or are there other seen that structure or are there other structures as well there have been structures as well there have been structures as well there have been reports that there are glass structures reports that there are glass structures reports that there are glass structures on the moon I mean we've had a number of on the moon I mean we've had a number of on the moon I mean we've had a number of guests on who've talked about this as guests on who've talked about this as guests on who've talked about this as far-fetched as it seems if if far-fetched as it seems if if far-fetched as it seems if if civilizations were indeed that old and civilizations were indeed that old and civilizations were indeed that old and you know you Michael Cremo would agree you know you Michael Cremo would agree you know you Michael Cremo would agree with you that mankind is hundreds of with you that mankind is hundreds of with you that mankind is hundreds of millions of years old it's very possible millions of years old it's very possible millions of years old it's very possible they possess that kind of technology I they possess that kind of technology I they possess that kind of technology I think knowledge works have a certain think knowledge works have a certain think knowledge works have a certain rate and eventually if you have a rate and eventually if you have a rate and eventually if you have a civilization that's hundreds of millions civilization that's hundreds of millions civilization that's hundreds of millions of years old they're gonna get of years old they're gonna get of years old they're gonna get technology it's gonna happen well man I technology it's gonna happen well man I technology it's gonna happen well man I mean we're intelligent and you know I mean we're intelligent and you know I mean we're intelligent and you know I hope we all are I believe that we're hope we all are I believe that we're hope we all are I believe that we're talking to an intelligent audience we talking to an intelligent audience we talking to an intelligent audience we were trying ow you are anyway they're were trying ow you are anyway they're were trying ow you are anyway they're smarter than me John and and I'm doing smarter than me John and and I'm doing smarter than me John and and I'm doing my best you know we come from ancestors my best you know we come from ancestors my best you know we come from ancestors who have given us the the DNA that they who have given us the the DNA that they who have given us the the DNA that they possessed right and possessed right and possessed right and according to the laws of genetics DNA according to the laws of genetics DNA according to the laws of genetics DNA does not information does not get added does not information does not get added does not information does not get added information actually gets lost so we're information actually gets lost so we're information actually gets lost so we're no more intelligent than our ancestors no more intelligent than our ancestors no more intelligent than our ancestors if anything were a little less but we're if anything were a little less but we're if anything were a little less but we're still pretty good still pretty good still pretty good as an archaeologist how do you start a as an archaeologist how do you start a as an archaeologist how do you start a project are you looking at maps do you project are you looking at maps do you project are you looking at maps do you go out and buy tools I mean I always go out and buy tools I mean I always go out and buy tools I mean I always remember one of my favorite old movies remember one of my favorite old movies remember one of my favorite old movies Journey to the Center of the Earth

Journey to the Center of the Earth Journey to the Center of the Earth and James Mason they go out and they get and James Mason they go out and they get and James Mason they go out and they get their little tools and their hammers and their little tools and their hammers and their little tools and their hammers and things how do you plan an archeological things how do you plan an archeological things how do you plan an archeological trip trip trip well I guess first of all you you you're well I guess first of all you you you're well I guess first of all you you you're interested in a subject you you you interested in a subject you you you interested in a subject you you you would wish you could find the remains of would wish you could find the remains of would wish you could find the remains of an old event or something like that or an old event or something like that or an old event or something like that or something you've read about are you something you've read about are you something you've read about are you looking for the event or you stumble looking for the event or you stumble looking for the event or you stumble into it sometimes you stumble into into it sometimes you stumble into into it sometimes you stumble into something you don't expect okay but no something you don't expect okay but no something you don't expect okay but no more often than not you have a general more often than not you have a general more often than not you have a general idea of what you're looking for you're idea of what you're looking for you're idea of what you're looking for you're saying okay there's a Greek city I want saying okay there's a Greek city I want saying okay there's a Greek city I want to I'd love to find it I'm going to go to I'd love to find it I'm going to go to I'd love to find it I'm going to go look at all the clues of it I'm going to look at all the clues of it I'm going to look at all the clues of it I'm going to go to old maps for example all place go to old maps for example all place go to old maps for example all place names on the maps that have remained names on the maps that have remained names on the maps that have remained unchanged for thousands of years because unchanged for thousands of years because unchanged for thousands of years because a place name often tells a story and in a place name often tells a story and in a place name often tells a story and in the United States there must be the United States there must be the United States there must be thousands of place names that tell a thousands of place names that tell a thousands of place names that tell a story from the old pioneer days for story from the old pioneer days for story from the old pioneer days for example and a story that's occurred at a example and a story that's occurred at a example and a story that's occurred at a certain place will often leave its mark certain place will often leave its mark certain place will often leave its mark in a place name and you compare those in a place name and you compare those in a place name and you compare those with modern maps and if the names are with modern maps and if the names are with modern maps and if the names are the same you say okay there's a fair the same you say okay there's a fair the same you say okay there's a fair chance if I go to this area I'll start chance if I go to this area I'll start chance if I go to this area I'll start finding evidence of that event just one finding evidence of that event just one finding evidence of that event just one one way I can always just work how come one way I can always just work how come one way I can always just work how come we can't find it like this or have we we can't find it like this or have we we can't find it like this or have we and they're just not telling us I and they're just not telling us I and they're just not telling us I believe we we have even enough evidence believe we we have even enough evidence believe we we have even enough evidence to help us it was there George no one to help us it was there George no one to help us it was there George no one can be certain but they're a good clues can be certain but they're a good clues can be certain but they're a good clues that we could sort of pick up and and I

that we could sort of pick up and and I that we could sort of pick up and and I do think that where those clues can be do think that where those clues can be do think that where those clues can be followed we can get a pretty fair idea followed we can get a pretty fair idea followed we can get a pretty fair idea of where Atlantis was is the demise of of where Atlantis was is the demise of of where Atlantis was is the demise of Atlantis part of this calamity that Atlantis part of this calamity that Atlantis part of this calamity that we're going to talk about tonight we're going to talk about tonight we're going to talk about tonight there's two theories about that one that there's two theories about that one that there's two theories about that one that the the the whole globe I distract the the the the whole globe I distract the the the the whole globe I distract the global destruction actually was the global destruction actually was the global destruction actually was the destruction of what today we might call destruction of what today we might call destruction of what today we might call Atlantis because there are many Atlantis because there are many Atlantis because there are many similarities to that world and the similarities to that world and the similarities to that world and the Atlantis legend great the other one is Atlantis legend great the other one is Atlantis legend great the other one is that it was a smaller place in the that it was a smaller place in the that it was a smaller place in the military not in the Mediterranean yes military not in the Mediterranean yes military not in the Mediterranean yes not in the Atlantic rather but in the not in the Atlantic rather but in the not in the Atlantic rather but in the Mediterranean and that all of the the Mediterranean and that all of the the Mediterranean and that all of the the dates say 9,000 years earlier Solon was dates say 9,000 years earlier Solon was dates say 9,000 years earlier Solon was the Solon actually was the man who gave the Solon actually was the man who gave the Solon actually was the man who gave the story and the story comes to us for the story and the story comes to us for the story and the story comes to us for before it was written down so it's before it was written down so it's before it was written down so it's impossibly to be certain as to the impossibly to be certain as to the impossibly to be certain as to the authenticity of the legend or the authenticity of the legend or the authenticity of the legend or the precise time of the destruction but precise time of the destruction but precise time of the destruction but there are reasonable grounds to place there are reasonable grounds to place there are reasonable grounds to place the event assuming it occurred not nine the event assuming it occurred not nine the event assuming it occurred not nine thousand years earlier but nine hundred thousand years earlier but nine hundred thousand years earlier but nine hundred years before it was told there are two years before it was told there are two years before it was told there are two words in the Egyptian language which are words in the Egyptian language which are words in the Egyptian language which are very similar one for thousand and one very similar one for thousand and one very similar one for thousand and one for a hundred and that could have for a hundred and that could have for a hundred and that could have occurred right and if this is so then occurred right and if this is so then occurred right and if this is so then where we have a figure of say a hundred where we have a figure of say a hundred where we have a figure of say a hundred thousand that would be ten thousand and thousand that would be ten thousand and thousand that would be ten thousand and so on all the way through the story what

so on all the way through the story what so on all the way through the story what would have caused a landmass or a would have caused a landmass or a would have caused a landmass or a continent to sink probably quickly continent to sink probably quickly continent to sink probably quickly earthquake or readjustment going on for earthquake or readjustment going on for earthquake or readjustment going on for hundreds of years after a global hundreds of years after a global hundreds of years after a global disaster I really just meant author disaster I really just meant author disaster I really just meant author Christ and then bang ya know it goes Christ and then bang ya know it goes Christ and then bang ya know it goes what about an asteroid asteroid could what about an asteroid asteroid could what about an asteroid asteroid could cause havoc but it wouldn't cause the cause havoc but it wouldn't cause the cause havoc but it wouldn't cause the land to single rise okay that's land to single rise okay that's land to single rise okay that's interesting all right Jonathan I want to interesting all right Jonathan I want to interesting all right Jonathan I want to talk more with you we're talking with talk more with you we're talking with talk more with you we're talking with Jonathan gray author of the weapon the Jonathan gray author of the weapon the Jonathan gray author of the weapon the globalist sphere and also dead man's globalist sphere and also dead man's globalist sphere and also dead man's secrets his website before us dot-com secrets his website before us dot-com secrets his website before us dot-com this is absolutely riveting how about a this is absolutely riveting how about a this is absolutely riveting how about a 400 foot tall pyramid on the bottom of 400 foot tall pyramid on the bottom of 400 foot tall pyramid on the bottom of the ocean how did that get there we're the ocean how did that get there we're the ocean how did that get there we're gonna talk about that and some other gonna talk about that and some other gonna talk about that and some other issues that he is investigated as an issues that he is investigated as an issues that he is investigated as an ancient archeologist right here on coast ancient archeologist right here on coast ancient archeologist right here on coast to coast am Jonathan gray our special to coast am Jonathan gray our special to coast am Jonathan gray our special guest and please go see his web site you guest and please go see his web site you guest and please go see his web site you get a very good idea of some of the get a very good idea of some of the get a very good idea of some of the topics at hand tonight on coast to coast topics at hand tonight on coast to coast topics at hand tonight on coast to coast am we'll be right back with him don't am we'll be right back with him don't am we'll be right back with him don't touch your dial and welcome back we're touch your dial and welcome back we're touch your dial and welcome back we're with Jonathan gray Jonathan the title of with Jonathan gray Jonathan the title of with Jonathan gray Jonathan the title of your book the weapon the globalist your book the weapon the globalist your book the weapon the globalist sphere what does that mean the effect is sphere what does that mean the effect is sphere what does that mean the effect is that there there is evidence which the that there there is evidence which the that there there is evidence which the people who are planning the New World people who are planning the New World people who are planning the New World Order don't want us to know about and Order don't want us to know about and Order don't want us to know about and the book reveals that interesting all the book reveals that interesting all the book reveals that interesting all right we'll get into a little bit of right we'll get into a little bit of right we'll get into a little bit of that too now you make a radical that too now you make a radical that too now you make a radical suggestion that around 2300 BC all

suggestion that around 2300 BC all suggestion that around 2300 BC all natural process natural process natural process says worldwide come to an abrupt halt says worldwide come to an abrupt halt says worldwide come to an abrupt halt then they restart again what happened then they restart again what happened then they restart again what happened yes this is the time of the great yes this is the time of the great yes this is the time of the great disaster we're talking about and I can disaster we're talking about and I can disaster we're talking about and I can pinpoint it to the year two three four pinpoint it to the year two three four pinpoint it to the year two three four five BC not myself only but scientists five BC not myself only but scientists five BC not myself only but scientists who have investigated this carefully who have investigated this carefully who have investigated this carefully have all come not just to the fact that have all come not just to the fact that have all come not just to the fact that it occurred so recently but that it it occurred so recently but that it it occurred so recently but that it occurred that very year and quite from occurred that very year and quite from occurred that very year and quite from independent evidence that each one digs independent evidence that each one digs independent evidence that each one digs up so here is something that we haven't up so here is something that we haven't up so here is something that we haven't talked about yet the world as a whole talked about yet the world as a whole talked about yet the world as a whole doesn't know about this yet but it's doesn't know about this yet but it's doesn't know about this yet but it's going to overthrow everything we've been going to overthrow everything we've been going to overthrow everything we've been taught about our ancient history destiny taught about our ancient history destiny taught about our ancient history destiny no came kind of paint us a picture what no came kind of paint us a picture what no came kind of paint us a picture what does the planet look like and around does the planet look like and around does the planet look like and around this time period before the event occurs this time period before the event occurs this time period before the event occurs before the event they will be talking before the event they will be talking before the event they will be talking about continental drift now that's about continental drift now that's about continental drift now that's that's and that's a myth it is a that's and that's a myth it is a that's and that's a myth it is a continental split the great disasters continental split the great disasters continental split the great disasters split correct the continental mass which split correct the continental mass which split correct the continental mass which was a one world continent which was was a one world continent which was was a one world continent which was climate pretty well much like a climate pretty well much like a climate pretty well much like a spring-like loveliness from pole to pole spring-like loveliness from pole to pole spring-like loveliness from pole to pole all geologists will agree that the earth all geologists will agree that the earth all geologists will agree that the earth at some stage had that climate well I'm at some stage had that climate well I'm at some stage had that climate well I'm not suggesting that before this great not suggesting that before this great not suggesting that before this great disaster that's what the climate was and disaster that's what the climate was and disaster that's what the climate was and not only from science but from records not only from science but from records not only from science but from records and ancient races as well from the and ancient races as well from the and ancient races as well from the Mexicans right across to the Chinese and Mexicans right across to the Chinese and Mexicans right across to the Chinese and the Egyptians now at this time the earth the Egyptians now at this time the earth the Egyptians now at this time the earth was tilted on its axis violently very was tilted on its axis violently very was tilted on its axis violently very suddenly and the stresses that this

suddenly and the stresses that this suddenly and the stresses that this generated in the surface of the earth generated in the surface of the earth generated in the surface of the earth caused a quick break up a crack would caused a quick break up a crack would caused a quick break up a crack would have appeared which would have traveled have appeared which would have traveled have appeared which would have traveled around the world at about eight miles a around the world at about eight miles a around the world at about eight miles a second and in just a few hours there second and in just a few hours there second and in just a few hours there would have been tremendous volcanism would have been tremendous volcanism would have been tremendous volcanism bursting out of the out of the the bursting out of the out of the the bursting out of the out of the the subterranean basins we estimate about subterranean basins we estimate about subterranean basins we estimate about thirty thousand volcanoes how deep do thirty thousand volcanoes how deep do thirty thousand volcanoes how deep do you think all this was well we have you think all this was well we have you think all this was well we have water right sediment as we drill through water right sediment as we drill through water right sediment as we drill through now it goes down at least ten miles deep now it goes down at least ten miles deep now it goes down at least ten miles deep in many places 60,000 feet deep so this in many places 60,000 feet deep so this in many places 60,000 feet deep so this was an upheaval that turned up continent was an upheaval that turned up continent was an upheaval that turned up continent and seas together on an enormous scale and seas together on an enormous scale and seas together on an enormous scale the seas would just filter into it like the seas would just filter into it like the seas would just filter into it like it but like they were going down a dream it but like they were going down a dream it but like they were going down a dream when they yes but with the volcanoes when they yes but with the volcanoes when they yes but with the volcanoes George also something like 80% of the George also something like 80% of the George also something like 80% of the gaseous material coming out of volcanoes gaseous material coming out of volcanoes gaseous material coming out of volcanoes is water well is water well is water well enormous amount of water would be enormous amount of water would be enormous amount of water would be expelled from under the under the expelled from under the under the expelled from under the under the surface plus the the amazingly large surface plus the the amazingly large surface plus the the amazingly large underground water basins and there was underground water basins and there was underground water basins and there was according to the climate we have according to the climate we have according to the climate we have something like a terrarium I could get something like a terrarium I could get something like a terrarium I could get into terrarium today that climate pole into terrarium today that climate pole into terrarium today that climate pole to pole would have been protected by to pole would have been protected by to pole would have been protected by vapor canopy above the atmosphere and vapor canopy above the atmosphere and vapor canopy above the atmosphere and there's good scientific evidence that there's good scientific evidence that there's good scientific evidence that such a canopy exists around some of the such a canopy exists around some of the such a canopy exists around some of the planets no this is this isn't what the planets no this is this isn't what the planets no this is this isn't what the Bible has talked about the great flood Bible has talked about the great flood Bible has talked about the great flood of nor is it and you can I'm at the

of nor is it and you can I'm at the of nor is it and you can I'm at the great part of Noah or you can simply great part of Noah or you can simply great part of Noah or you can simply call it the great deluge whatever you call it the great deluge whatever you call it the great deluge whatever you want it's the same event it is the same want it's the same event it is the same want it's the same event it is the same event okay event okay event okay assign the vent yeah so we might have assign the vent yeah so we might have assign the vent yeah so we might have had a survivor or two yes there was a had a survivor or two yes there was a had a survivor or two yes there was a handful of survivors and interestingly handful of survivors and interestingly handful of survivors and interestingly enough a number of races around the enough a number of races around the enough a number of races around the world trace themselves back to this very world trace themselves back to this very world trace themselves back to this very same period to the same survivors same period to the same survivors same period to the same survivors there's a tribe in China Chinese there there's a tribe in China Chinese there there's a tribe in China Chinese there are African tribes there are the royal are African tribes there are the royal are African tribes there are the royal families obscure of Ireland of of the families obscure of Ireland of of the families obscure of Ireland of of the Norway of Denmark and Iceland who have Norway of Denmark and Iceland who have Norway of Denmark and Iceland who have kept unbroken genealogical records going kept unbroken genealogical records going kept unbroken genealogical records going back to the same event and they all have back to the same event and they all have back to the same event and they all have the same names for the flood surviving the same names for the flood surviving the same names for the flood surviving investors this sound of this cracking investors this sound of this cracking investors this sound of this cracking planet must have been immense can you planet must have been immense can you planet must have been immense can you imagine that yes it's hard to imagine imagine that yes it's hard to imagine imagine that yes it's hard to imagine you imagine 30 thousand funders bursting you imagine 30 thousand funders bursting you imagine 30 thousand funders bursting out of the ground with fire and water out of the ground with fire and water out of the ground with fire and water now what in terms of the inhabitants now what in terms of the inhabitants now what in terms of the inhabitants prior to this this episode what do they prior to this this episode what do they prior to this this episode what do they look like I mean more their modern look like I mean more their modern look like I mean more their modern cities did they have you know the cities did they have you know the cities did they have you know the amenities of life or were they just kind amenities of life or were they just kind amenities of life or were they just kind of Stone Age type people of life we're of Stone Age type people of life we're of Stone Age type people of life we're digging down we're finding the remains digging down we're finding the remains digging down we're finding the remains of the most sophisticated of the most sophisticated of the most sophisticated machine are not actually machinery well machine are not actually machinery well machine are not actually machinery well it could be parts of machinery George it could be parts of machinery George it could be parts of machinery George we're not sure either machinery or

we're not sure either machinery or we're not sure either machinery or machine made objects give us some machine made objects give us some machine made objects give us some examples well a machine made to cube was examples well a machine made to cube was examples well a machine made to cube was found in a coal mine over in Austria found in a coal mine over in Austria found in a coal mine over in Austria sometime ago it was written up in in a sometime ago it was written up in in a sometime ago it was written up in in a British scientific journal and a French British scientific journal and a French British scientific journal and a French scientific journal and it ended up in a scientific journal and it ended up in a scientific journal and it ended up in a museum in Germany and I believe it's museum in Germany and I believe it's museum in Germany and I believe it's still there still there still there we have we have gold chains we have we we have we have gold chains we have we we have we have gold chains we have we have iron pots we we have all sorts of have iron pots we we have all sorts of have iron pots we we have all sorts of everyday objects being found symbols and everyday objects being found symbols and everyday objects being found symbols and we've got designs on them we have parts we've got designs on them we have parts we've got designs on them we have parts of buildings under the ground in in coal of buildings under the ground in in coal of buildings under the ground in in coal mines we have the remains of people that mines we have the remains of people that mines we have the remains of people that have been found in which appear to be have been found in which appear to be have been found in which appear to be very much like ourselves in appearance very much like ourselves in appearance very much like ourselves in appearance and we have the we have drawings of and we have the we have drawings of and we have the we have drawings of clothing which is like our own modern clothing which is like our own modern clothing which is like our own modern clothing hmm inspections do change and clothing hmm inspections do change and clothing hmm inspections do change and go in cycles as you can appreciate you go in cycles as you can appreciate you go in cycles as you can appreciate you they sure do white tie skinny ties are they sure do white tie skinny ties are they sure do white tie skinny ties are all coming back what kind of Cataclysm all coming back what kind of Cataclysm all coming back what kind of Cataclysm could have done all this well would have could have done all this well would have could have done all this well would have let me give you a scientific discovery let me give you a scientific discovery let me give you a scientific discovery that has been made in relation to this I that has been made in relation to this I that has been made in relation to this I think perhaps that we could could look think perhaps that we could could look think perhaps that we could could look at the the work of Dodd will who was a at the the work of Dodd will who was a at the the work of Dodd will who was a scientist in Australia here in fact was

scientist in Australia here in fact was scientist in Australia here in fact was one of the most eminent Australian one of the most eminent Australian one of the most eminent Australian scientists known in the history of that scientists known in the history of that scientists known in the history of that country and his he was actually country and his he was actually country and his he was actually astronomer royal for the Royal Adelaide astronomer royal for the Royal Adelaide astronomer royal for the Royal Adelaide observatory and he studied the observatory and he studied the observatory and he studied the observations are made over hundreds of observations are made over hundreds of observations are made over hundreds of years through history all over the world years through history all over the world years through history all over the world relating to the relationship of our relating to the relationship of our relating to the relationship of our planet to the rising and setting of the planet to the rising and setting of the planet to the rising and setting of the Sun and thousands and thousands of Sun and thousands and thousands of Sun and thousands and thousands of notations had been made through history notations had been made through history notations had been made through history and he compared them and drew a graph and he compared them and drew a graph and he compared them and drew a graph and the graph showed that our earth and the graph showed that our earth and the graph showed that our earth had been tipped on its axis to about 26 had been tipped on its axis to about 26 had been tipped on its axis to about 26 and a half degrees from an upright axis and a half degrees from an upright axis and a half degrees from an upright axis originally and that it had slowly been originally and that it had slowly been originally and that it had slowly been wobbling back like a top to the present wobbling back like a top to the present wobbling back like a top to the present 23 and a half degrees and Dodd will then 23 and a half degrees and Dodd will then 23 and a half degrees and Dodd will then calculated from his is his graphing calculated from his is his graphing calculated from his is his graphing curve just how long ago this would have curve just how long ago this would have curve just how long ago this would have taken place and he actually didn't make taken place and he actually didn't make taken place and he actually didn't make a vague guess he actually made a very a vague guess he actually made a very a vague guess he actually made a very firm calculation which was checked and firm calculation which was checked and firm calculation which was checked and rechecked by other scientists who have rechecked by other scientists who have rechecked by other scientists who have written about it by the way and written about it by the way and written about it by the way and confirmed that his calculations were confirmed that his calculations were confirmed that his calculations were correct and he came to the conclusion correct and he came to the conclusion correct and he came to the conclusion and published it that the earth was and published it that the earth was and published it that the earth was violently tipped on its axis in the year violently tipped on its axis in the year violently tipped on its axis in the year two three four five B C and a sudden two three four five B C and a sudden two three four five B C and a sudden displacement of the Earth's axis would

displacement of the Earth's axis would displacement of the Earth's axis would cause the destruction of the entire cause the destruction of the entire cause the destruction of the entire surface of the planet he was convinced surface of the planet he was convinced surface of the planet he was convinced that it occurred and this sudden change that it occurred and this sudden change that it occurred and this sudden change in position would leave the earth in position would leave the earth in position would leave the earth wobbling like a disturbed top and lead wobbling like a disturbed top and lead wobbling like a disturbed top and lead you it is wobbling on its axis today you it is wobbling on its axis today you it is wobbling on its axis today that's true that's true that's true now George Dodd will a by the way he now George Dodd will a by the way he now George Dodd will a by the way he served in the South Australian served in the South Australian served in the South Australian Observatory for 53 years and his work Observatory for 53 years and his work Observatory for 53 years and his work gained worldwide recognition in fact he gained worldwide recognition in fact he gained worldwide recognition in fact he is commemorated by a plaque on the site is commemorated by a plaque on the site is commemorated by a plaque on the site of the old observatory in the West of the old observatory in the West of the old observatory in the West Terrace and Adelaide that that's how Terrace and Adelaide that that's how Terrace and Adelaide that that's how respected this man is now what he called respected this man is now what he called respected this man is now what he called it was the secular variation of the it was the secular variation of the it was the secular variation of the obliquity of the ecliptic now put simply obliquity of the ecliptic now put simply obliquity of the ecliptic now put simply that's the measurement of the Sun shadow that's the measurement of the Sun shadow that's the measurement of the Sun shadow length by ancient astronomers from all length by ancient astronomers from all length by ancient astronomers from all the different continents now Dodd rules the different continents now Dodd rules the different continents now Dodd rules research was confirmed by dr. Rhodes W research was confirmed by dr. Rhodes W research was confirmed by dr. Rhodes W Fairbridge of Columbia University and Fairbridge of Columbia University and Fairbridge of Columbia University and published in science magazine which is published in science magazine which is published in science magazine which is one of the highest regarded magazines on one of the highest regarded magazines on one of the highest regarded magazines on earth among scientists so the evidence earth among scientists so the evidence earth among scientists so the evidence shows the tipping of the axis in two shows the tipping of the axis in two shows the tipping of the axis in two three four five BC followed by a three four five BC followed by a three four five BC followed by a measurable corrective wobble and there's measurable corrective wobble and there's measurable corrective wobble and there's a clear pattern of recovery since that a clear pattern of recovery since that a clear pattern of recovery since that date that has not been disrupted to this date that has not been disrupted to this date that has not been disrupted to this day are these day are these day are these kinds of events Jonathan cyclical do kinds of events Jonathan cyclical do kinds of events Jonathan cyclical do they happen time and time again that they happen time and time again that they happen time and time again that would have to be a theory but there's no would have to be a theory but there's no would have to be a theory but there's no evidence for anything like that George evidence for anything like that George evidence for anything like that George well that's good that's good

well that's good that's good well that's good that's good let me ask you a little bit about the let me ask you a little bit about the let me ask you a little bit about the Mayan culture right we've got a calendar Mayan culture right we've got a calendar Mayan culture right we've got a calendar that apparently ends around 2012 their that apparently ends around 2012 their that apparently ends around 2012 their culture we know was around 3100 BC so culture we know was around 3100 BC so culture we know was around 3100 BC so where's the gap here for them well where's the gap here for them well where's the gap here for them well actually it's a very interesting actually it's a very interesting actually it's a very interesting question because if their calendar goes question because if their calendar goes question because if their calendar goes back to 3 3 1 1 4 BC we would say ok back to 3 3 1 1 4 BC we would say ok back to 3 3 1 1 4 BC we would say ok they've been uninterrupted therefore they've been uninterrupted therefore they've been uninterrupted therefore there could not have been a cataclysm in there could not have been a cataclysm in there could not have been a cataclysm in 2 3 4 5 BC you might be yeah that'll be 2 3 4 5 BC you might be yeah that'll be 2 3 4 5 BC you might be yeah that'll be a conclusion unless they somehow a conclusion unless they somehow a conclusion unless they somehow survived it now the reason for that date survived it now the reason for that date survived it now the reason for that date is simply that they started at the end is simply that they started at the end is simply that they started at the end of the cycle and then excavated back to of the cycle and then excavated back to of the cycle and then excavated back to a beginning of that cycle and now the a beginning of that cycle and now the a beginning of that cycle and now the the male were very very good astronomers the male were very very good astronomers the male were very very good astronomers as you know in fact there are there are as you know in fact there are there are as you know in fact there are there are measurements of the length of the year measurements of the length of the year measurements of the length of the year and the day are more accurate than ours and the day are more accurate than ours and the day are more accurate than ours were until we discovered it now what were until we discovered it now what were until we discovered it now what they did was this from studying the they did was this from studying the they did was this from studying the movements of the heavenly bodies vinaya movements of the heavenly bodies vinaya movements of the heavenly bodies vinaya calculated that there would be a calculated that there would be a calculated that there would be a conjunction of the Sun the ecliptic and conjunction of the Sun the ecliptic and conjunction of the Sun the ecliptic and the Milky Way in the year 2012 right the Milky Way in the year 2012 right the Milky Way in the year 2012 right without without instruments or maybe without without instruments or maybe without without instruments or maybe they had them they had instruments here they had them they had instruments here they had them they had instruments here now a milestone like that would now a milestone like that would now a milestone like that would appropriately end a natural astronomical appropriately end a natural astronomical appropriately end a natural astronomical cycle of our solar system around the cycle of our solar system around the cycle of our solar system around the Milky Way and from this because they Milky Way and from this because they Milky Way and from this because they could calculate the speed at which we could calculate the speed at which we could calculate the speed at which we were moving as a solar system a very

were moving as a solar system a very were moving as a solar system a very sophisticated from this calculated sophisticated from this calculated sophisticated from this calculated future event of 2012 they then future event of 2012 they then future event of 2012 they then extrapolated back to the to the same extrapolated back to the to the same extrapolated back to the to the same event where a blast occurred and that event where a blast occurred and that event where a blast occurred and that would have been 25 thousand years ago would have been 25 thousand years ago would have been 25 thousand years ago but if they broke that up into cycles but if they broke that up into cycles but if they broke that up into cycles and and the most recent cycle would have and and the most recent cycle would have and and the most recent cycle would have begun in 3 1 1 4 BC if we take if we begun in 3 1 1 4 BC if we take if we begun in 3 1 1 4 BC if we take if we take the long term of our solar system's take the long term of our solar system's take the long term of our solar system's mean what the Sun moves around our mean what the Sun moves around our mean what the Sun moves around our our Milky Way with its planets in a our Milky Way with its planets in a our Milky Way with its planets in a certain cycle just might as we move certain cycle just might as we move certain cycle just might as we move around the Sun and the earth is circled around the Sun and the earth is circled around the Sun and the earth is circled by the moon so our solar system would do by the moon so our solar system would do by the moon so our solar system would do a cycle in about 25,000 years but that a cycle in about 25,000 years but that a cycle in about 25,000 years but that will be broken up into about five will be broken up into about five will be broken up into about five milestones and the most recent one would milestones and the most recent one would milestones and the most recent one would take them back to 3 1 1 4 BC so it was a take them back to 3 1 1 4 BC so it was a take them back to 3 1 1 4 BC so it was a start of their calendar cycle not start of their calendar cycle not start of their calendar cycle not because they were they were existing because they were they were existing because they were they were existing then but because that's the solar system then but because that's the solar system then but because that's the solar system recycle civilizations animals everything recycle civilizations animals everything recycle civilizations animals everything that's on the planet back then wiped out that's on the planet back then wiped out that's on the planet back then wiped out what in 2 3 4 5 here and it's taken now what in 2 3 4 5 here and it's taken now what in 2 3 4 5 here and it's taken now about 40 I don't know how many years about 40 I don't know how many years about 40 I don't know how many years 4000 plus years to get to where we are 4000 plus years to get to where we are 4000 plus years to get to where we are now then right yes and interestingly now then right yes and interestingly now then right yes and interestingly George is not just the Maya all the George is not just the Maya all the George is not just the Maya all the civilizations go back to that date and civilizations go back to that date and civilizations go back to that date and and I've got very very copious evidence and I've got very very copious evidence and I've got very very copious evidence that they are all in agreement with each

that they are all in agreement with each that they are all in agreement with each other despite what there is you know the other despite what there is you know the other despite what there is you know the speculate we were evidence for this speculate we were evidence for this speculate we were evidence for this where did the pyramids fit in Jonathan where did the pyramids fit in Jonathan where did the pyramids fit in Jonathan because I think they were built more because I think they were built more because I think they were built more than 5000 years ago maybe 10,000 years than 5000 years ago maybe 10,000 years than 5000 years ago maybe 10,000 years ago maybe way before that well and ago maybe way before that well and ago maybe way before that well and they're still here that's a good they're still here that's a good they're still here that's a good question question question most certainly they were very very old most certainly they were very very old most certainly they were very very old no question about that no question about that no question about that so shall we spend a little time on that so shall we spend a little time on that so shall we spend a little time on that yeah we've got some time but the Sphinx yeah we've got some time but the Sphinx yeah we've got some time but the Sphinx and the pyramids have always interested and the pyramids have always interested and the pyramids have always interested me in fact every time I go to Egypt I me in fact every time I go to Egypt I me in fact every time I go to Egypt I just have to go there and they're one of just have to go there and they're one of just have to go there and they're one of the most wonderful buildings in the the most wonderful buildings in the the most wonderful buildings in the world really oh I haven't seen it my world really oh I haven't seen it my world really oh I haven't seen it my father was born in Cairo I've loved to father was born in Cairo I've loved to father was born in Cairo I've loved to get out there oh he was born in Cairo he get out there oh he was born in Cairo he get out there oh he was born in Cairo he was there that's where he came out well was there that's where he came out well was there that's where he came out well what a fortunate man he would have had a what a fortunate man he would have had a what a fortunate man he would have had a lot of a lot of the romantic history lot of a lot of the romantic history lot of a lot of the romantic history drilled into him yeah he left them when drilled into him yeah he left them when drilled into him yeah he left them when he was about six so far smaller really he was about six so far smaller really he was about six so far smaller really remembering yeah fine okay now these remembering yeah fine okay now these remembering yeah fine okay now these they're good as evidence that the they're good as evidence that the they're good as evidence that the tubular entrance passage in the Great tubular entrance passage in the Great tubular entrance passage in the Great Pyramid pointed to the North Pole Pyramid pointed to the North Pole Pyramid pointed to the North Pole in the year two one four four BC that's in the year two one four four BC that's in the year two one four four BC that's 200 years after I speak of the great 200 years after I speak of the great 200 years after I speak of the great disaster right really and he pointed to disaster right really and he pointed to disaster right really and he pointed to the north polar star into one for the north polar star into one for the north polar star into one for obviously at the same time that the obviously at the same time that the obviously at the same time that the pyramid apex pointed to Elk pyramid apex pointed to Elk pyramid apex pointed to Elk seoane the pivot of the solar system as

seoane the pivot of the solar system as seoane the pivot of the solar system as it was anciently called the foundation it was anciently called the foundation it was anciently called the foundation star now in this descending passage star now in this descending passage star now in this descending passage there are two scored lines which point there are two scored lines which point there are two scored lines which point upwards at right angles from the the upwards at right angles from the the upwards at right angles from the the from the pointing of the passage itself from the pointing of the passage itself from the pointing of the passage itself which goes to the North Old North Polar which goes to the North Old North Polar which goes to the North Old North Polar Star Star Star now these scored lines point upwards now these scored lines point upwards now these scored lines point upwards through the pyramid to the same star elk through the pyramid to the same star elk through the pyramid to the same star elk I own in the constellation known as the I own in the constellation known as the I own in the constellation known as the Pleiades so what we've got here is a Pleiades so what we've got here is a Pleiades so what we've got here is a double check on something where two double check on something where two double check on something where two things were being pointed to at the same things were being pointed to at the same things were being pointed to at the same time one through the the tubular time one through the the tubular time one through the the tubular entrance and one through the the apex of entrance and one through the the apex of entrance and one through the the apex of the pyramid to a definite date tu-144 BC the pyramid to a definite date tu-144 BC the pyramid to a definite date tu-144 BC now the tradition from the Euphrates now the tradition from the Euphrates now the tradition from the Euphrates region seems to identify this foundation region seems to identify this foundation region seems to identify this foundation star in the Pleiades with the ceremony star in the Pleiades with the ceremony star in the Pleiades with the ceremony of laying the foundation for a building of laying the foundation for a building of laying the foundation for a building and this was a practice in ancient times and this was a practice in ancient times and this was a practice in ancient times that bring a building had its foundation that bring a building had its foundation that bring a building had its foundation laid it was always real who always laid it was always real who always laid it was always real who always orientated to Al's Leone so I'm asking orientated to Al's Leone so I'm asking orientated to Al's Leone so I'm asking this question was the pointer to Elsi this question was the pointer to Elsi this question was the pointer to Elsi own as the foundation staff fixed in own as the foundation staff fixed in own as the foundation staff fixed in stone to record the date of the stone to record the date of the stone to record the date of the foundation of the Great Pyramid strong foundation of the Great Pyramid strong foundation of the Great Pyramid strong possibility may be however we have we possibility may be however we have we possibility may be however we have we have other things to consider on this have other things to consider on this have other things to consider on this the Great Pyramid actually is so the Great Pyramid actually is so the Great Pyramid actually is so accurate in its measurements that it can

accurate in its measurements that it can accurate in its measurements that it can measure out the fraction of the the measure out the fraction of the the measure out the fraction of the the yearly cycle a tower 365 and a quarter yearly cycle a tower 365 and a quarter yearly cycle a tower 365 and a quarter days cycle and there's still the days cycle and there's still the days cycle and there's still the argument who made them yeah that's right argument who made them yeah that's right argument who made them yeah that's right Egyptians by the ways that say that Egyptians by the ways that say that Egyptians by the ways that say that others came into Egypt and ended it in others came into Egypt and ended it in others came into Egypt and ended it in the reign of kion's technology what do the reign of kion's technology what do the reign of kion's technology what do they have they had they had the ability they have they had they had the ability they have they had they had the ability to write to write to write heavy weights with sound waves we know heavy weights with sound waves we know heavy weights with sound waves we know this simply because we've got the this simply because we've got the this simply because we've got the agreement of of ancient records in South agreement of of ancient records in South agreement of of ancient records in South America in Asia and in Egypt all America in Asia and in Egypt all America in Asia and in Egypt all converging with the same answer so they converging with the same answer so they converging with the same answer so they didn't they didn't make up think up a didn't they didn't make up think up a didn't they didn't make up think up a lovely story separately there was there lovely story separately there was there lovely story separately there was there had to be some kind of truth to to what had to be some kind of truth to to what had to be some kind of truth to to what they were writing they said they said they were writing they said they said they were writing they said they said actually they had control over sound actually they had control over sound actually they had control over sound waves that they could they could affect waves that they could they could affect waves that they could they could affect the atomic structure of an object so the atomic structure of an object so the atomic structure of an object so that it would not be held back by that it would not be held back by that it would not be held back by gravity so they had some kind of device gravity so they had some kind of device gravity so they had some kind of device that would resonate and it vibrated to that would resonate and it vibrated to that would resonate and it vibrated to the point where the blocks just you know the point where the blocks just you know the point where the blocks just you know had no weight basically yeah that's had no weight basically yeah that's had no weight basically yeah that's right which would like what we find to right which would like what we find to right which would like what we find to die quite easy mean we'll look what over die quite easy mean we'll look what over die quite easy mean we'll look what over for example in Baalbek great stones for example in Baalbek great stones for example in Baalbek great stones looked at 20 feet above the ground and looked at 20 feet above the ground and looked at 20 feet above the ground and these stones weigh 2,000 tons not 200 these stones weigh 2,000 tons not 200 these stones weigh 2,000 tons not 200 not 20 not 2 but 2,000 and we don't have not 20 not 2 but 2,000 and we don't have not 20 not 2 but 2,000 and we don't have any listening devices today that can do

any listening devices today that can do any listening devices today that can do that what about the talk of Adam and Eve that what about the talk of Adam and Eve that what about the talk of Adam and Eve is this is this after this calamity or is this is this after this calamity or is this is this after this calamity or what were they before before okay so what were they before before okay so what were they before before okay so sorry I just like to mention George if I sorry I just like to mention George if I sorry I just like to mention George if I may that the the 365 degree measurement may that the the 365 degree measurement may that the the 365 degree measurement of the of the yearly cycle in the Great of the of the yearly cycle in the Great of the of the yearly cycle in the Great Pyramid which is encapsulated within the Pyramid which is encapsulated within the Pyramid which is encapsulated within the pyramid defines a year length which did pyramid defines a year length which did pyramid defines a year length which did not exist before the great disaster it not exist before the great disaster it not exist before the great disaster it was the 360 a year before the great was the 360 a year before the great was the 360 a year before the great disaster and we have quite a lot of disaster and we have quite a lot of disaster and we have quite a lot of testimony of the ancients relating to testimony of the ancients relating to testimony of the ancients relating to that so if the Great Pyramid was built that so if the Great Pyramid was built that so if the Great Pyramid was built to encapsulate a 365 degree year that to encapsulate a 365 degree year that to encapsulate a 365 degree year that would suggest it was built after the would suggest it was built after the would suggest it was built after the disaster after the disaster that's disaster after the disaster that's disaster after the disaster that's fascinating but with sophistication but fascinating but with sophistication but fascinating but with sophistication but with sophistication years a with sophistication years a with sophistication years a sophistication that was inherited by the sophistication that was inherited by the sophistication that was inherited by the survivors of the flood disaster and survivors of the flood disaster and survivors of the flood disaster and passed on to their descendants Jonathan passed on to their descendants Jonathan passed on to their descendants Jonathan when we come back I want to get your when we come back I want to get your when we come back I want to get your take on the Samaria take on the Samaria take on the Samaria that culture as well what's going on in that culture as well what's going on in that culture as well what's going on in the South America I want to get your the South America I want to get your the South America I want to get your take on the pyramid that's on the ocean take on the pyramid that's on the ocean take on the pyramid that's on the ocean floor how in the heck did that get there floor how in the heck did that get there floor how in the heck did that get there and you know just so many more we'll be and you know just so many more we'll be and you know just so many more we'll be back in a moment with Jonathan grant back in a moment with Jonathan grant back in a moment with Jonathan grant coast-to-coast al and our special guest tonight Jonathan and our special guest tonight Jonathan Gray his latest work the weapon the Gray his latest work the weapon the Gray his latest work the weapon the globalists fear we'll find out a little

globalists fear we'll find out a little globalists fear we'll find out a little bit later on what that weapon just might bit later on what that weapon just might bit later on what that weapon just might be Jonathan what can you tell us about be Jonathan what can you tell us about be Jonathan what can you tell us about the Sumerian culture the Sumerian culture the Sumerian culture I was the marryin culture is that is I was the marryin culture is that is I was the marryin culture is that is reputedly the earliest of all the reputedly the earliest of all the reputedly the earliest of all the cultures but the evidence now shows that cultures but the evidence now shows that cultures but the evidence now shows that the Sumerians the Chinese the Mexicans the Sumerians the Chinese the Mexicans the Sumerians the Chinese the Mexicans the Egyptians all started roughly around the Egyptians all started roughly around the Egyptians all started roughly around the same time from a common beginning the same time from a common beginning the same time from a common beginning when Alexander the Great defeat of the when Alexander the Great defeat of the when Alexander the Great defeat of the Persians in 331 BC he journeyed to Persians in 331 BC he journeyed to Persians in 331 BC he journeyed to Babylon which was a center of the Babylon which was a center of the Babylon which was a center of the Cimmerian the the location of the Cimmerian the the location of the Cimmerian the the location of the Sumerian culture and he and his scholars Sumerian culture and he and his scholars Sumerian culture and he and his scholars there studied very very carefully the there studied very very carefully the there studied very very carefully the astronomical observations of these astronomical observations of these astronomical observations of these people and they placed the founding of people and they placed the founding of people and they placed the founding of Sumeria at 2 2 3 4 BC rather interesting Sumeria at 2 2 3 4 BC rather interesting Sumeria at 2 2 3 4 BC rather interesting it is ominous deed isn't it yes it is ominous deed isn't it yes it is ominous deed isn't it yes uncannily close to what we've been uncannily close to what we've been uncannily close to what we've been speaking on what did you think of the speaking on what did you think of the speaking on what did you think of the work of the late zecharia sitchin where work of the late zecharia sitchin where work of the late zecharia sitchin where he claims visitors from another planet he claims visitors from another planet he claims visitors from another planet came here you know to mine gold came here you know to mine gold came here you know to mine gold genetically altered mankind and that it genetically altered mankind and that it genetically altered mankind and that it was based on his interpretation of the was based on his interpretation of the was based on his interpretation of the Sumerian text that they're they're very Sumerian text that they're they're very Sumerian text that they're they're very interesting question yes very important interesting question yes very important interesting question yes very important one actually I approached the zecharia one actually I approached the zecharia one actually I approached the zecharia sitchin honest because I quoted him in sitchin honest because I quoted him in sitchin honest because I quoted him in some of my books for a while in fact some of my books for a while in fact some of my books for a while in fact indeed means ink but something like indeed means ink but something like indeed means ink but something like quote him two or three times and my

quote him two or three times and my quote him two or three times and my sympathies were with him simply because sympathies were with him simply because sympathies were with him simply because he like myself had come across the canoe he like myself had come across the canoe he like myself had come across the canoe conclusion that our ancestors were not conclusion that our ancestors were not conclusion that our ancestors were not done they they started off pretty pretty done they they started off pretty pretty done they they started off pretty pretty well in the Sumerian times they started well in the Sumerian times they started well in the Sumerian times they started off pretty sophisticated right on that off pretty sophisticated right on that off pretty sophisticated right on that school I thought well here's a man after school I thought well here's a man after school I thought well here's a man after my own heart my own heart my own heart but as people began to contact me but as people began to contact me but as people began to contact me further they said what about this what further they said what about this what further they said what about this what about this and it began to disturb me so about this and it began to disturb me so about this and it began to disturb me so I contacted Zechariah in March this last I contacted Zechariah in March this last I contacted Zechariah in March this last year while he was still alive and I year while he was still alive and I year while he was still alive and I specifically asked him can please tell specifically asked him can please tell specifically asked him can please tell me where where I can find me where where I can find me where where I can find Sumerian documents that you speak of and Sumerian documents that you speak of and Sumerian documents that you speak of and I spelled out the Anunnaki I spelled out I spelled out the Anunnaki I spelled out I spelled out the Anunnaki I spelled out Nibiru like the whole story of this Nibiru like the whole story of this Nibiru like the whole story of this mining on earth and so on I said where mining on earth and so on I said where mining on earth and so on I said where are the Sumerian documents that tell us are the Sumerian documents that tell us are the Sumerian documents that tell us this because I'm going to have to answer this because I'm going to have to answer this because I'm going to have to answer people that that put their trust in what people that that put their trust in what people that that put their trust in what I've written about you he he wrote back I've written about you he he wrote back I've written about you he he wrote back and was not able to tell me he says it's and was not able to tell me he says it's and was not able to tell me he says it's in my books well of course I'd read all in my books well of course I'd read all in my books well of course I'd read all these books and I knew there was no these books and I knew there was no these books and I knew there was no evidence in his books it was just the evidence in his books it was just the evidence in his books it was just the story so I went on a search and story so I went on a search and story so I went on a search and discovered that we now have translated discovered that we now have translated discovered that we now have translated into English all of the Sumerian into English all of the Sumerian into English all of the Sumerian documents that have ever been unearthed documents that have ever been unearthed documents that have ever been unearthed and there are two universities in and there are two universities in and there are two universities in America that now I have those made those America that now I have those made those America that now I have those made those available and are specifically zeroed in available and are specifically zeroed in available and are specifically zeroed in on those particular subjects and found

on those particular subjects and found on those particular subjects and found that they're not even in the Sumerian that they're not even in the Sumerian that they're not even in the Sumerian documents and the mirror was mentioned documents and the mirror was mentioned documents and the mirror was mentioned but as a human being that was deified but as a human being that was deified but as a human being that was deified and his hero life and that was all it and his hero life and that was all it and his hero life and that was all it was the Anunnaki were human beings who was the Anunnaki were human beings who was the Anunnaki were human beings who were very elite in their community but were very elite in their community but were very elite in their community but they were not out of space gods but it's they were not out of space gods but it's they were not out of space gods but it's been advanced not a 0 was a name given been advanced not a 0 was a name given been advanced not a 0 was a name given to two heroes when they died sometimes to two heroes when they died sometimes to two heroes when they died sometimes like they would in a beer and other like they would in a beer and other like they would in a beer and other names were given but Nibiru became the names were given but Nibiru became the names were given but Nibiru became the name given to the planet Jupiter which name given to the planet Jupiter which name given to the planet Jupiter which is always visible because of this is always visible because of this is always visible because of this particular hero in the Sumerian history particular hero in the Sumerian history particular hero in the Sumerian history did acts which made him honor him and did acts which made him honor him and did acts which made him honor him and they said all right when we look up at they said all right when we look up at they said all right when we look up at Jupiter in the sky we'll always remember Jupiter in the sky we'll always remember Jupiter in the sky we'll always remember him that's the closest Nibiru ever get him that's the closest Nibiru ever get him that's the closest Nibiru ever get got to being a planet was identified got to being a planet was identified got to being a planet was identified human identified with a planet after his human identified with a planet after his human identified with a planet after his death why does there seem to be death why does there seem to be death why does there seem to be resistance by mainstream science to some resistance by mainstream science to some resistance by mainstream science to some of these theories I mean big deal if we of these theories I mean big deal if we of these theories I mean big deal if we are hundreds of millions of years old are hundreds of millions of years old are hundreds of millions of years old that would be exciting why do they fight that would be exciting why do they fight that would be exciting why do they fight this the geological column George this the geological column George this the geological column George destroys the theory of evolution that's destroys the theory of evolution that's destroys the theory of evolution that's as simple as that really let this look as simple as that really let this look as simple as that really let this look why we started out with at they're why we started out with at they're why we started out with at they're challenged by our friend mr. Dawkins and challenged by our friend mr. Dawkins and challenged by our friend mr. Dawkins and and his protege mr. Don now I happen to

and his protege mr. Don now I happen to and his protege mr. Don now I happen to come across a dear man over there in the come across a dear man over there in the come across a dear man over there in the United States a real true blooded United States a real true blooded United States a real true blooded American his name was ed Conrad and Edie American his name was ed Conrad and Edie American his name was ed Conrad and Edie actually over there in his near his actually over there in his near his actually over there in his near his hometown began digging around and there hometown began digging around and there hometown began digging around and there in the open coal fields between coal in the open coal fields between coal in the open coal fields between coal strata he came across a human skull a strata he came across a human skull a strata he came across a human skull a human finger and I think was about two human finger and I think was about two human finger and I think was about two or three dozen various human remains now or three dozen various human remains now or three dozen various human remains now he went to the Smithsonian with this and he went to the Smithsonian with this and he went to the Smithsonian with this and he had a real battle in fact it's been he had a real battle in fact it's been he had a real battle in fact it's been going on for about twenty years going on for about twenty years going on for about twenty years his first petrified skull was found his first petrified skull was found his first petrified skull was found between these coal veins and two teeth between these coal veins and two teeth between these coal veins and two teeth were found inside it now the Smithsonian were found inside it now the Smithsonian were found inside it now the Smithsonian promised to analyze it for him and they promised to analyze it for him and they promised to analyze it for him and they said that they would do a proper said that they would do a proper said that they would do a proper scientific examination and he before he scientific examination and he before he scientific examination and he before he did this actually Edie had learned that did this actually Edie had learned that did this actually Edie had learned that bone contains very small haversian bone contains very small haversian bone contains very small haversian canals and their presence is conclusive canals and their presence is conclusive canals and their presence is conclusive evidence of bone even if the bone is evidence of bone even if the bone is evidence of bone even if the bone is petrified the canals are petrified as petrified the canals are petrified as petrified the canals are petrified as well because they're just the holes in well because they're just the holes in well because they're just the holes in going through it they're integrable part going through it they're integrable part going through it they're integrable part of the shell structure of bone and of the shell structure of bone and of the shell structure of bone and they're the passageways for the process they're the passageways for the process they're the passageways for the process now the Smithsonian contrary to their now the Smithsonian contrary to their now the Smithsonian contrary to their promise did not examine the cell promise did not examine the cell promise did not examine the cell structure or if they did they

structure or if they did they structure or if they did they accidentally clamped up on what they had accidentally clamped up on what they had accidentally clamped up on what they had found right now it continued to pressure found right now it continued to pressure found right now it continued to pressure them and they promised to examine them and they promised to examine them and they promised to examine further well he kept coming back and further well he kept coming back and further well he kept coming back and they just ignored him and he pressed they just ignored him and he pressed they just ignored him and he pressed ma'amed he pressed them and all he got ma'amed he pressed them and all he got ma'amed he pressed them and all he got was weak excuses or so he began to worry was weak excuses or so he began to worry was weak excuses or so he began to worry and say hey what's going on here so had and say hey what's going on here so had and say hey what's going on here so had they discovered something that might they discovered something that might they discovered something that might blow their evolution theory sky-high blow their evolution theory sky-high blow their evolution theory sky-high well well well continued to find more and more objects continued to find more and more objects continued to find more and more objects and he took one of them a photo of one and he took one of them a photo of one and he took one of them a photo of one of them actually was forwarded to Wilton of them actually was forwarded to Wilton of them actually was forwarded to Wilton Codman and internationally-acclaimed Codman and internationally-acclaimed Codman and internationally-acclaimed bone expert and he's actually one of the bone expert and he's actually one of the bone expert and he's actually one of the world's foremost human comparative world's foremost human comparative world's foremost human comparative anatomist anatomist anatomist it was he excited about this oh he was it was he excited about this oh he was it was he excited about this oh he was he said this is a premolar tooth and he he said this is a premolar tooth and he he said this is a premolar tooth and he said man you've got something that's said man you've got something that's said man you've got something that's going to go down in the book on human going to go down in the book on human going to go down in the book on human tele ontology an unbeatable combination tele ontology an unbeatable combination tele ontology an unbeatable combination home annoyed teeth and a million bones home annoyed teeth and a million bones home annoyed teeth and a million bones did it ever ever go down in history did it ever ever go down in history did it ever ever go down in history well Codman recommended that an infrared well Codman recommended that an infrared well Codman recommended that an infrared scan be done and it was sent to the scan be done and it was sent to the scan be done and it was sent to the american medical laboratories in fairfax american medical laboratories in fairfax american medical laboratories in fairfax virginia and they confirmed what he virginia and they confirmed what he virginia and they confirmed what he suspected now it sent a copy of the skin suspected now it sent a copy of the skin suspected now it sent a copy of the skin to a man called rye at the smithsonian to a man called rye at the smithsonian to a man called rye at the smithsonian and that was ignored he made other

and that was ignored he made other and that was ignored he made other requests for several major universities requests for several major universities requests for several major universities and and they were ignored and then he and and they were ignored and then he and and they were ignored and then he learned from a newspaper article whether learned from a newspaper article whether learned from a newspaper article whether medical surgeon in Pennsylvania was able medical surgeon in Pennsylvania was able medical surgeon in Pennsylvania was able to interpret the scans and this men to interpret the scans and this men to interpret the scans and this men agreed to do so and in his response he agreed to do so and in his response he agreed to do so and in his response he said the scanner identifies your said the scanner identifies your said the scanner identifies your material as compatible with either tooth material as compatible with either tooth material as compatible with either tooth or bone in origin or bone in origin or bone in origin so it was being confirmed by the one so it was being confirmed by the one so it was being confirmed by the one expert now another expert but anyway you expert now another expert but anyway you expert now another expert but anyway you continued to battle the super scientist continued to battle the super scientist continued to battle the super scientist to get his discovery examined and for to get his discovery examined and for to get his discovery examined and for over 20 years they kept giving him the over 20 years they kept giving him the over 20 years they kept giving him the Royal runaround just rocks they said he Royal runaround just rocks they said he Royal runaround just rocks they said he kept their minds could never be found in kept their minds could never be found in kept their minds could never be found in coal shut up-a it case closed but he coal shut up-a it case closed but he coal shut up-a it case closed but he wouldn't stop now he wouldn't stop and wouldn't stop now he wouldn't stop and wouldn't stop now he wouldn't stop and in fact I spoke to read just this week in fact I spoke to read just this week in fact I spoke to read just this week just two or three days ago and I told just two or three days ago and I told just two or three days ago and I told him I was going to come on like your him I was going to come on like your him I was going to come on like your program and hopefully we might just program and hopefully we might just program and hopefully we might just mention this sure George Edie said I'm mention this sure George Edie said I'm mention this sure George Edie said I'm willing to go on TV with the Smithsonian willing to go on TV with the Smithsonian willing to go on TV with the Smithsonian experts and he challenges anybody on the experts and he challenges anybody on the experts and he challenges anybody on the face of this planet to sit down with him face of this planet to sit down with him face of this planet to sit down with him and an independent board of review and and an independent board of review and and an independent board of review and watch the videos of the testing well watch the videos of the testing well watch the videos of the testing well what he's found below what he's found below what he's found below the evolution theory skyhigh and it the evolution theory skyhigh and it the evolution theory skyhigh and it destroys the succession of geological destroys the succession of geological destroys the succession of geological ages that we've been appearing in the ages that we've been appearing in the ages that we've been appearing in the schools and universities remarkable it schools and universities remarkable it schools and universities remarkable it really is let's move over to the really is let's move over to the really is let's move over to the Americas for a moment tell me about this Americas for a moment tell me about this Americas for a moment tell me about this case of a captain Don Henry who found a

case of a captain Don Henry who found a case of a captain Don Henry who found a 400 foot pyramid on the seabed off of 400 foot pyramid on the seabed off of 400 foot pyramid on the seabed off of Florida tell me about that well that was Florida tell me about that well that was Florida tell me about that well that was the back in 1976 and the Captain Henry the back in 1976 and the Captain Henry the back in 1976 and the Captain Henry was 40 miles off the southern coast of was 40 miles off the southern coast of was 40 miles off the southern coast of Florida and he was directing sonar Florida and he was directing sonar Florida and he was directing sonar soundings soundings soundings of the fall of the ocean when suddenly of the fall of the ocean when suddenly of the fall of the ocean when suddenly up came there's immense pyramid shaped up came there's immense pyramid shaped up came there's immense pyramid shaped object now this was about 300 feet below object now this was about 300 feet below object now this was about 300 feet below the surface of the sea and later the surface of the sea and later the surface of the sea and later underwater closed-circuit TV was brought underwater closed-circuit TV was brought underwater closed-circuit TV was brought in and it showed the pyramid to be about in and it showed the pyramid to be about in and it showed the pyramid to be about 420 feet high now that's a pretty tall 420 feet high now that's a pretty tall 420 feet high now that's a pretty tall building that's a tall building and you building that's a tall building and you building that's a tall building and you were mentioning skyscrapers earlier were mentioning skyscrapers earlier were mentioning skyscrapers earlier George well there's one for sure yeah George well there's one for sure yeah George well there's one for sure yeah nearly the size of the Great Pyramid of nearly the size of the Great Pyramid of nearly the size of the Great Pyramid of Egypt how far off of Florida was about Egypt how far off of Florida was about Egypt how far off of Florida was about 40 miles so anyone who wants to just go 40 miles so anyone who wants to just go 40 miles so anyone who wants to just go out to see if they've got the equipment out to see if they've got the equipment out to see if they've got the equipment they could go and look for it so it must they could go and look for it so it must they could go and look for it so it must have been on in Island have been on in Island have been on in Island I don't think unless Florida was that I don't think unless Florida was that I don't think unless Florida was that that long that wide and then something that long that wide and then something that long that wide and then something happened to that portion of it well it happened to that portion of it well it happened to that portion of it well it does appear that over the last 4,000 does appear that over the last 4,000 does appear that over the last 4,000 years the seabed has risen about 3 to years the seabed has risen about 3 to years the seabed has risen about 3 to 500 feet I'm sorry the sea has risen 500 feet I'm sorry the sea has risen 500 feet I'm sorry the sea has risen over the seabed the land has either sunk over the seabed the land has either sunk over the seabed the land has either sunk or the sea has risen and this would have or the sea has risen and this would have or the sea has risen and this would have been part of the North American been part of the North American been part of the North American continent at that time I guess that's continent at that time I guess that's continent at that time I guess that's something you talked about how the something you talked about how the something you talked about how the Mayans had surgical instruments that

Mayans had surgical instruments that Mayans had surgical instruments that were thousands of times sharper than our were thousands of times sharper than our were thousands of times sharper than our own modern platinum tell me about this own modern platinum tell me about this own modern platinum tell me about this is by we're actually that they're Knight is by we're actually that they're Knight is by we're actually that they're Knight of obsidian obsidian glass which is of obsidian obsidian glass which is of obsidian obsidian glass which is volcanic glass actually and some modern volcanic glass actually and some modern volcanic glass actually and some modern surgeons have even used them because surgeons have even used them because surgeons have even used them because they have great white that they mean they have great white that they mean they have great white that they mean that they see the trepanning and if it that they see the trepanning and if it that they see the trepanning and if it was done by the the ancient American was done by the the ancient American was done by the the ancient American prior prior prior and they see the brain as the apparent and they see the brain as the apparent and they see the brain as the apparent brain surgery and and heart surgery that brain surgery and and heart surgery that brain surgery and and heart surgery that was conducted using these instruments was conducted using these instruments was conducted using these instruments and there was a case actually of a girl and there was a case actually of a girl and there was a case actually of a girl who was very seriously injured in a who was very seriously injured in a who was very seriously injured in a motor car accident back there in the motor car accident back there in the motor car accident back there in the 1960s 1960s 1960s and one surgeon chose about modern and one surgeon chose about modern and one surgeon chose about modern instruments to use some of the old ones instruments to use some of the old ones instruments to use some of the old ones and because that they were sharp they and because that they were sharp they and because that they were sharp they didn't cut the cells open so badly and didn't cut the cells open so badly and didn't cut the cells open so badly and she survived beautifully as well as she survived beautifully as well as she survived beautifully as well as anyone in a modern hospital that's anyone in a modern hospital that's anyone in a modern hospital that's amazing amazing amazing yeah well that's the case of the year yeah well that's the case of the year yeah well that's the case of the year peruvian surgeon listen yeah he was a peruvian surgeon listen yeah he was a peruvian surgeon listen yeah he was a Peruvian surgeon years and the lion the Peruvian surgeon years and the lion the Peruvian surgeon years and the lion the Mayans the Peruvians the Aztecs they all Mayans the Peruvians the Aztecs they all Mayans the Peruvians the Aztecs they all had a fair knowledge of this and I'm not had a fair knowledge of this and I'm not had a fair knowledge of this and I'm not something quite a bit of sharing going something quite a bit of sharing going something quite a bit of sharing going on I think tell me about this vast on I think tell me about this vast on I think tell me about this vast artificial tunnel in Ecuador you you've artificial tunnel in Ecuador you you've artificial tunnel in Ecuador you you've got me going on that one when I first got me going on that one when I first got me going on that one when I first wrote dead men's secrets and I I had wrote dead men's secrets and I I had wrote dead men's secrets and I I had heard about this man I've been in the heard about this man I've been in the heard about this man I've been in the Amazon and to me that's one of the most Amazon and to me that's one of the most Amazon and to me that's one of the most lovely places on earth apart from the lovely places on earth apart from the lovely places on earth apart from the bugs and all that but and and wild

bugs and all that but and and wild bugs and all that but and and wild people but beautiful unspoiled is people but beautiful unspoiled is people but beautiful unspoiled is forgotten and there as in many forgotten and there as in many forgotten and there as in many continents in fact all continents there continents in fact all continents there continents in fact all continents there are vast underground tunnel systems that are vast underground tunnel systems that are vast underground tunnel systems that just don't go for immorality but they go just don't go for immorality but they go just don't go for immorality but they go for hundreds maybe even thousands of for hundreds maybe even thousands of for hundreds maybe even thousands of miles now when I first wrote about this miles now when I first wrote about this miles now when I first wrote about this particular one in in eastern Ecuador in particular one in in eastern Ecuador in particular one in in eastern Ecuador in the Ecuador Eastern Peru Brazilian the Ecuador Eastern Peru Brazilian the Ecuador Eastern Peru Brazilian region and the eastern side of the Andes region and the eastern side of the Andes region and the eastern side of the Andes Mountains I was incensed when I had Mountains I was incensed when I had Mountains I was incensed when I had discovered that Westerners were coming discovered that Westerners were coming discovered that Westerners were coming into the Amazon and they were coming in into the Amazon and they were coming in into the Amazon and they were coming in by helicopter with over little pockets by helicopter with over little pockets by helicopter with over little pockets of clearing in the jungle where they of clearing in the jungle where they of clearing in the jungle where they could see a couple of houses where there could see a couple of houses where there could see a couple of houses where there was an Indian tribe because they I am was an Indian tribe because they I am was an Indian tribe because they I am given little little clusters like that given little little clusters like that given little little clusters like that and they were dropping lollies and and they were dropping lollies and and they were dropping lollies and sweets laced with arsenic and typhus and sweets laced with arsenic and typhus and sweets laced with arsenic and typhus and naturally something coming out of the naturally something coming out of the naturally something coming out of the sky like that these these simple people sky like that these these simple people sky like that these these simple people would would pick it up I think there was would would pick it up I think there was would would pick it up I think there was yeah they want to taste it yeah they want to taste it yeah they want to taste it and they were to die and then these and they were to die and then these and they were to die and then these these lovely people who gave them the these lovely people who gave them the these lovely people who gave them the gift would come in and seize their land gift would come in and seize their land gift would come in and seize their land and start opening it up for cattle or and start opening it up for cattle or and start opening it up for cattle or for prospecting for gold or whatever for prospecting for gold or whatever for prospecting for gold or whatever else and this has been going on it as else and this has been going on it as else and this has been going on it as you very well known and some of us

you very well known and some of us you very well known and some of us pretty upset about it and this pretty upset about it and this pretty upset about it and this particular tribe got in contact in fact particular tribe got in contact in fact particular tribe got in contact in fact their chief went to civilization he their chief went to civilization he their chief went to civilization he eventually got down to a city of malaya eventually got down to a city of malaya eventually got down to a city of malaya sin on the Amazon River and he spoke to sin on the Amazon River and he spoke to sin on the Amazon River and he spoke to Carl bruger who was a German a native Carl bruger who was a German a native Carl bruger who was a German a native expert Endon and freelance writer and expert Endon and freelance writer and expert Endon and freelance writer and investigator and he played for the West investigator and he played for the West investigator and he played for the West to stop the genocide that was taking to stop the genocide that was taking to stop the genocide that was taking place and Bruges came up with a rather place and Bruges came up with a rather place and Bruges came up with a rather good book at that time and I was good book at that time and I was good book at that time and I was familiar with his discoveries and so I familiar with his discoveries and so I familiar with his discoveries and so I decided I just put a little bit about decided I just put a little bit about decided I just put a little bit about that in my book gave me in secrets and that in my book gave me in secrets and that in my book gave me in secrets and it's all over the planet isn't it it's all over the planet isn't it it's all over the planet isn't it highest high technologies strange highest high technologies strange highest high technologies strange stories I mean it's everywhere it's stories I mean it's everywhere it's stories I mean it's everywhere it's everywhere everywhere everywhere and and what happened George was listed and and what happened George was listed and and what happened George was listed at this tribe 30,000 of them actually a at this tribe 30,000 of them actually a at this tribe 30,000 of them actually a whole family group of tribes went whole family group of tribes went whole family group of tribes went underground they decided this was the underground they decided this was the underground they decided this was the only safe course they could take and only safe course they could take and only safe course they could take and that they went into loof at some of the that they went into loof at some of the that they went into loof at some of the underground cities that were already underground cities that were already underground cities that were already existing from ancient times now soon existing from ancient times now soon existing from ancient times now soon after that after that after that soon after my book came out we'll pretty soon after my book came out we'll pretty soon after my book came out we'll pretty soon after a Canadian scientist soon after a Canadian scientist soon after a Canadian scientist contacted me he'd become a good friend contacted me he'd become a good friend contacted me he'd become a good friend down Jerry and he said look we were we down Jerry and he said look we were we down Jerry and he said look we were we were prospecting and and and exploring were prospecting and and and exploring were prospecting and and and exploring in the Amazon and my tribe my group was

in the Amazon and my tribe my group was in the Amazon and my tribe my group was ambushed by a tribe and I was taken they ambushed by a tribe and I was taken they ambushed by a tribe and I was taken they got away but I became a prisoner and I got away but I became a prisoner and I got away but I became a prisoner and I was led through the tunnel system to was led through the tunnel system to was led through the tunnel system to their City and as you approach a city their City and as you approach a city their City and as you approach a city under the underground under the underground under the underground yet was yet was yet was certain level and suddenly lights that certain level and suddenly lights that certain level and suddenly lights that coming on automatically when you go past coming on automatically when you go past coming on automatically when you go past that area the lights go off behind you that area the lights go off behind you that area the lights go off behind you weird weird weird ancient very ancient and you know that ancient very ancient and you know that ancient very ancient and you know that this civilization didn't build this it this civilization didn't build this it this civilization didn't build this it was done way before them this present was done way before them this present was done way before them this present civilization is only occupying that's civilization is only occupying that's civilization is only occupying that's right yeah yes and we can go to europe right yeah yes and we can go to europe right yeah yes and we can go to europe and africa in fact in South America when and africa in fact in South America when and africa in fact in South America when one of your presidents Theodore one of your presidents Theodore one of your presidents Theodore Roosevelt was showing the entrances to Roosevelt was showing the entrances to Roosevelt was showing the entrances to more tunnels in Chile his the British more tunnels in Chile his the British more tunnels in Chile his the British missionary population name Livingstone missionary population name Livingstone missionary population name Livingstone David Livingstone was taken into tunnels David Livingstone was taken into tunnels David Livingstone was taken into tunnels in Africa I would Stanley that's right in Africa I would Stanley that's right in Africa I would Stanley that's right yes and and the astronaut the first man yes and and the astronaut the first man yes and and the astronaut the first man to walk on the moon went went with to walk on the moon went went with to walk on the moon went went with another Stanley at Stanley Hall into a another Stanley at Stanley Hall into a another Stanley at Stanley Hall into a tunnel system in Ecuador when they tunnel system in Ecuador when they tunnel system in Ecuador when they explored underground for two months like explored underground for two months like explored underground for two months like I mean I've got responded with mr. Hall I mean I've got responded with mr. Hall I mean I've got responded with mr. Hall and it's a very level-headed fellow and and it's a very level-headed fellow and and it's a very level-headed fellow and and so was wasn't it and so was wasn't it and so was wasn't it Neil Armstrong and and I actually had Neil Armstrong and and I actually had Neil Armstrong and and I actually had the support and they were accompanied by the support and they were accompanied by the support and they were accompanied by members from the University of Edinburgh members from the University of Edinburgh members from the University of Edinburgh in the University of Quito so these are in the University of Quito so these are in the University of Quito so these are real these do exist I've had friends go

real these do exist I've had friends go real these do exist I've had friends go to an underground tunnel system in Spain to an underground tunnel system in Spain to an underground tunnel system in Spain and they've sent me photographs of what and they've sent me photographs of what and they've sent me photographs of what they what they photographed while they what they photographed while they what they photographed while they're underground well you know they're underground well you know they're underground well you know Columbus may have discovered the new Columbus may have discovered the new Columbus may have discovered the new world in 1492 but there were others way world in 1492 but there were others way world in 1492 but there were others way before him Oh most certainly before him Oh most certainly before him Oh most certainly the Columbus being the discoverer he was the Columbus being the discoverer he was the Columbus being the discoverer he was only the rediscovery yeah he was the only the rediscovery yeah he was the only the rediscovery yeah he was the modern one you've talked about maps modern one you've talked about maps modern one you've talked about maps ancient maps of the world that have what ancient maps of the world that have what ancient maps of the world that have what disappeared vanished yes there are disappeared vanished yes there are disappeared vanished yes there are several of these actually which are several of these actually which are several of these actually which are based upon a spherical earth so they based upon a spherical earth so they based upon a spherical earth so they knew the earth was round and I knew knew the earth was round and I knew knew the earth was round and I knew longitude and latitude which was later longitude and latitude which was later longitude and latitude which was later forgotten and only rediscovered in the forgotten and only rediscovered in the forgotten and only rediscovered in the last couple of hundred years they drew last couple of hundred years they drew last couple of hundred years they drew their Maps on that basis the curvature their Maps on that basis the curvature their Maps on that basis the curvature of the earth is sure is very obvious on of the earth is sure is very obvious on of the earth is sure is very obvious on the maps they draw or vent arctic air in the maps they draw or vent arctic air in the maps they draw or vent arctic air in North America North America North America in South America for example and Asia as in South America for example and Asia as in South America for example and Asia as well where the curves are it's not like well where the curves are it's not like well where the curves are it's not like you see on a flat map it's like you see you see on a flat map it's like you see you see on a flat map it's like you see on a on a circular globe you have talked on a on a circular globe you have talked on a on a circular globe you have talked about the 2000 stunned ton stone about the 2000 stunned ton stone about the 2000 stunned ton stone building blocks in Lebanon in Bala vac building blocks in Lebanon in Bala vac building blocks in Lebanon in Bala vac is to me they were landing ports I don't is to me they were landing ports I don't is to me they were landing ports I don't know they were certainly sophisticated know they were certainly sophisticated know they were certainly sophisticated that they were done with them with that they were done with them with that they were done with them with machinery I have no doubt about that machinery I have no doubt about that machinery I have no doubt about that they were cut to cut around and they they were cut to cut around and they they were cut to cut around and they were put in place where they were put in were put in place where they were put in were put in place where they were put in place yes place yes place yes and today they form a foundation upon

and today they form a foundation upon and today they form a foundation upon which the two largest Roman temples in which the two largest Roman temples in which the two largest Roman temples in the whole Roman world were later built the whole Roman world were later built the whole Roman world were later built but they dwarf those temples it's truly but they dwarf those temples it's truly but they dwarf those temples it's truly amazing well when we come back Jonathan amazing well when we come back Jonathan amazing well when we come back Jonathan I want to talk about your latest work I want to talk about your latest work I want to talk about your latest work the weapon of the global the globalist the weapon of the global the globalist the weapon of the global the globalist sphere and find out exactly what that sphere and find out exactly what that sphere and find out exactly what that amazing secret is that you've discovered amazing secret is that you've discovered amazing secret is that you've discovered and we'll talk about that next hour and we'll talk about that next hour and we'll talk about that next hour we'll open up the phone lines and give we'll open up the phone lines and give we'll open up the phone lines and give you an opportunity to chat with Jonathan you an opportunity to chat with Jonathan you an opportunity to chat with Jonathan gray his works of course dead men's gray his works of course dead men's gray his works of course dead men's secrets in the weapon the globalist secrets in the weapon the globalist secrets in the weapon the globalist sphere and others just simply go to his sphere and others just simply go to his sphere and others just simply go to his website which is linked up at website which is linked up at website which is linked up at coast-to-coast am calm before us dot-com coast-to-coast am calm before us dot-com coast-to-coast am calm before us dot-com I'll be back in a moment with Jonathan I'll be back in a moment with Jonathan I'll be back in a moment with Jonathan Gray we'll talk about this amazing Gray we'll talk about this amazing Gray we'll talk about this amazing secret what could it be secret what could it be secret what could it be well next hour we will take your phone well next hour we will take your phone well next hour we will take your phone calls with the international explorer calls with the international explorer calls with the international explorer and archaeologists Jonathan gray but and archaeologists Jonathan gray but and archaeologists Jonathan gray but I'll be back with him in just a moment I'll be back with him in just a moment I'll be back with him in just a moment on coast to coast am Jonathan in your on coast to coast am Jonathan in your on coast to coast am Jonathan in your work the weapon the globalists fear you work the weapon the globalists fear you work the weapon the globalists fear you talked about an amazing secret in the talked about an amazing secret in the talked about an amazing secret in the foundation rocks of our planet now tell foundation rocks of our planet now tell foundation rocks of our planet now tell me about that what does that mean yes me about that what does that mean yes me about that what does that mean yes well perhaps we could look at the look well perhaps we could look at the look well perhaps we could look at the look at that first I think that's a good idea at that first I think that's a good idea at that first I think that's a good idea okay right now back in 1965 one spring okay right now back in 1965 one spring okay right now back in 1965 one spring day there was a young American scientist day there was a young American scientist day there was a young American scientist peering through his microscope at some peering through his microscope at some peering through his microscope at some very thin translucent sections of

very thin translucent sections of very thin translucent sections of granite type rocks and suddenly it granite type rocks and suddenly it granite type rocks and suddenly it struck him George struck him George struck him George it had this had the potential to turn an it had this had the potential to turn an it had this had the potential to turn an established theory global theory upside established theory global theory upside established theory global theory upside down what he was looking at could raise down what he was looking at could raise down what he was looking at could raise an uproar in the scientific world and as an uproar in the scientific world and as an uproar in the scientific world and as a result of mentioning that he lost his a result of mentioning that he lost his a result of mentioning that he lost his funding now what had he found he had funding now what had he found he had funding now what had he found he had found physical scientific evidence that found physical scientific evidence that found physical scientific evidence that can be tested under any laboratory that can be tested under any laboratory that can be tested under any laboratory that shows that the foundation rocks of our shows that the foundation rocks of our shows that the foundation rocks of our continents solidified not over millions continents solidified not over millions continents solidified not over millions of years slowly cooling from liquid to of years slowly cooling from liquid to of years slowly cooling from liquid to solid but within minutes the molten rock solid but within minutes the molten rock solid but within minutes the molten rock became suddenly solid with how did he became suddenly solid with how did he became suddenly solid with how did he know this yes in minutes not days or know this yes in minutes not days or know this yes in minutes not days or years or centuries years or centuries years or centuries now just suppose you dropped a now just suppose you dropped a now just suppose you dropped a alka-seltzer into the into a glass of alka-seltzer into the into a glass of alka-seltzer into the into a glass of water it has a very short life doesn't water it has a very short life doesn't water it has a very short life doesn't it the beginning of effervescence his it the beginning of effervescence his it the beginning of effervescence his vision it's gone it's gone vision it's gone it's gone vision it's gone it's gone yes now what he had found was tiny yes now what he had found was tiny yes now what he had found was tiny bubbles little bubble of polonium inside bubbles little bubble of polonium inside bubbles little bubble of polonium inside the granite rocks of our planet the granite rocks of our planet the granite rocks of our planet worldwide while they all solidified yes worldwide while they all solidified yes worldwide while they all solidified yes and polonium bubbles only have a and polonium bubbles only have a and polonium bubbles only have a half-life of three minutes otherwise

half-life of three minutes otherwise half-life of three minutes otherwise they would have dispersed before the they would have dispersed before the they would have dispersed before the rock solidified it interesting now he rock solidified it interesting now he rock solidified it interesting now he published this in a in magazines of peer published this in a in magazines of peer published this in a in magazines of peer review he battled the establishment for review he battled the establishment for review he battled the establishment for more than twenty years and what he was more than twenty years and what he was more than twenty years and what he was finding was this that the granite was in finding was this that the granite was in finding was this that the granite was in a liquid state then it was frozen into a liquid state then it was frozen into a liquid state then it was frozen into solidified granite within a matter of solidified granite within a matter of solidified granite within a matter of minutes and left behind the halo bubbles minutes and left behind the halo bubbles minutes and left behind the halo bubbles before they disappeared and this is all before they disappeared and this is all before they disappeared and this is all when the planet was for me when the when the planet was for me when the when the planet was for me when the planet was forming these were frozen planet was forming these were frozen planet was forming these were frozen into the solid granite that's a physical into the solid granite that's a physical into the solid granite that's a physical fact that anyone can see and test now fact that anyone can see and test now fact that anyone can see and test now is not generally promoted in the is not generally promoted in the is not generally promoted in the scientific world because it becomes a scientific world because it becomes a scientific world because it becomes a challenge yeah tell me tell me the challenge yeah tell me tell me the challenge yeah tell me tell me the significance of this discovery significance of this discovery significance of this discovery significance of the discovery is that significance of the discovery is that significance of the discovery is that our planet had to have been created and our planet had to have been created and our planet had to have been created and solidified in a very short time just solidified in a very short time just solidified in a very short time just like the book of Genesis in in in the like the book of Genesis in in in the like the book of Genesis in in in the Old Testament is telling us like in days Old Testament is telling us like in days Old Testament is telling us like in days apart in days apart in days apart in days in minutes that is remarkable it had to in minutes that is remarkable it had to in minutes that is remarkable it had to happen in less than three minutes then happen in less than three minutes then happen in less than three minutes then and that's globally on every continent and that's globally on every continent and that's globally on every continent of our planet all all the foundation of of our planet all all the foundation of of our planet all all the foundation of our rocks have these halos in them these our rocks have these halos in them these our rocks have these halos in them these bubbles preserved in frozen so in the bubbles preserved in frozen so in the bubbles preserved in frozen so in the state that the planet might have been in state that the planet might have been in state that the planet might have been in let's say it was in a gas state before

let's say it was in a gas state before let's say it was in a gas state before this all happened this all happened this all happened right yeah instantly I guess it would be right yeah instantly I guess it would be right yeah instantly I guess it would be instantly everything solidified instantly everything solidified instantly everything solidified instantly everything solidified now this instantly everything solidified now this instantly everything solidified now this was actually presented to the National was actually presented to the National was actually presented to the National Academy of Sciences dr. Robert Gentry Academy of Sciences dr. Robert Gentry Academy of Sciences dr. Robert Gentry who is the scientist named he published who is the scientist named he published who is the scientist named he published unrefuted evidence for an instant unrefuted evidence for an instant unrefuted evidence for an instant creation in nature magazine in science creation in nature magazine in science creation in nature magazine in science in Applied physical letters and others in Applied physical letters and others in Applied physical letters and others now the evolutionist controlled National now the evolutionist controlled National now the evolutionist controlled National Academy of Sciences strongly opposed Academy of Sciences strongly opposed Academy of Sciences strongly opposed this horrifying idea even claiming that this horrifying idea even claiming that this horrifying idea even claiming that the evidence of the creation had been the evidence of the creation had been the evidence of the creation had been scientifically invalidated so in Gentry scientifically invalidated so in Gentry scientifically invalidated so in Gentry went back and said wait a minute please went back and said wait a minute please went back and said wait a minute please publicly explain where the Palladian publicly explain where the Palladian publicly explain where the Palladian halo evidence has ever been halo evidence has ever been halo evidence has ever been scientifically invalidated and it was scientifically invalidated and it was scientifically invalidated and it was embarrassing they couldn't they couldn't embarrassing they couldn't they couldn't embarrassing they couldn't they couldn't disprove him are you saying that this is disprove him are you saying that this is disprove him are you saying that this is a backing of God he said what else could a backing of God he said what else could a backing of God he said what else could it be it be it be it was a sudden intervention in the it was a sudden intervention in the it was a sudden intervention in the liquid state and they throw it frozen liquid state and they throw it frozen liquid state and they throw it frozen three minutes three minutes three minutes hence the globalists don't want us to hence the globalists don't want us to hence the globalists don't want us to know this they don't want this nice to know this they don't want this nice to know this they don't want this nice to know this and why don't they want us to know this and why don't they want us to know this and why don't they want us to know George I do believe that what we've know George I do believe that what we've know George I do believe that what we've got here is a philosophy that's taken got here is a philosophy that's taken got here is a philosophy that's taken over our planet and it's a battle now over our planet and it's a battle now over our planet and it's a battle now between a document and the death squad I between a document and the death squad I between a document and the death squad I mean we all know that there's a plan put mean we all know that there's a plan put mean we all know that there's a plan put into operation now to eliminate most of into operation now to eliminate most of into operation now to eliminate most of the world's population

the world's population the world's population and the planners say this needs to be and the planners say this needs to be and the planners say this needs to be done so they can have the air you type done so they can have the air you type done so they can have the air you type of your world now we've got this coming of your world now we've got this coming of your world now we've got this coming along which is a bombshell set to along which is a bombshell set to along which is a bombshell set to explode in their face they would love explode in their face they would love explode in their face they would love another calamity as long as they weren't another calamity as long as they weren't another calamity as long as they weren't part of it oh yes they'll be the part of it oh yes they'll be the part of it oh yes they'll be the minority won't they be survived yep now minority won't they be survived yep now minority won't they be survived yep now we might be aghast at the dangers of a we might be aghast at the dangers of a we might be aghast at the dangers of a nuclear bomb at the hands of terrorists nuclear bomb at the hands of terrorists nuclear bomb at the hands of terrorists or renegade governments but even more or renegade governments but even more or renegade governments but even more deadly than all of this is this deadly than all of this is this deadly than all of this is this intellectual bond that's been let loose intellectual bond that's been let loose intellectual bond that's been let loose upon us upon us upon us it's the nihilistic mindset that's been it's the nihilistic mindset that's been it's the nihilistic mindset that's been dominating scientific thought for the dominating scientific thought for the dominating scientific thought for the last 150 years it's based upon the last 150 years it's based upon the last 150 years it's based upon the theory that we are here by accident we theory that we are here by accident we theory that we are here by accident we are all useless eaters and that the are all useless eaters and that the are all useless eaters and that the survival of the fittest means that the survival of the fittest means that the survival of the fittest means that the use of force and cruelty to crush the use of force and cruelty to crush the use of force and cruelty to crush the weak is justified that's the mindset weak is justified that's the mindset weak is justified that's the mindset that's taken over our planet that's taken over our planet that's taken over our planet well that's true no how did in the book well that's true no how did in the book well that's true no how did in the book of Genesis did they know this did they of Genesis did they know this did they of Genesis did they know this did they know the timetable of the formation of know the timetable of the formation of know the timetable of the formation of the solar system the planets how did the solar system the planets how did the solar system the planets how did they know this well the writers of the they know this well the writers of the they know this well the writers of the book of Genesis state that that the book of Genesis state that that the book of Genesis state that that the Creator actually tried to convey the Creator actually tried to convey the Creator actually tried to convey the information to them because why of information to them because why of information to them because why of course that were not witnesses but course that were not witnesses but course that were not witnesses but whoever was around at that time conveyed whoever was around at that time conveyed whoever was around at that time conveyed the information and said this is how I the information and said this is how I the information and said this is how I did it what do you think so this means did it what do you think so this means did it what do you think so this means that the book of Genesis is no longer that the book of Genesis is no longer that the book of Genesis is no longer relegated to to fantasy unless we've got relegated to to fantasy unless we've got relegated to to fantasy unless we've got here scientific corroboration of its

here scientific corroboration of its here scientific corroboration of its claim in minutes so in the beginning God claim in minutes so in the beginning God claim in minutes so in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth and created the heaven and the earth and created the heaven and the earth and this is the document by height and you this is the document by height and you this is the document by height and you can understand why now the the taking can understand why now the the taking can understand why now the the taking over of our educational establishment of over of our educational establishment of over of our educational establishment of our scientific establishment and our our scientific establishment and our our scientific establishment and our virtually every establishment that now virtually every establishment that now virtually every establishment that now controls our society has been done with controls our society has been done with controls our society has been done with a purpose in mind to control to a purpose in mind to control to a purpose in mind to control to illuminate and to discredit the book of illuminate and to discredit the book of illuminate and to discredit the book of Genesis and that's the one book of all Genesis and that's the one book of all Genesis and that's the one book of all books that the the establishment is books that the the establishment is books that the the establishment is against it's like they'll disagree against it's like they'll disagree against it's like they'll disagree they'll prove it they'll say it's miss they'll prove it they'll say it's miss they'll prove it they'll say it's miss they'll say it's it's nonsense or its they'll say it's it's nonsense or its they'll say it's it's nonsense or its religious garbage but they will not religious garbage but they will not religious garbage but they will not admit that it's scientific truth because admit that it's scientific truth because admit that it's scientific truth because that will awaken people to say hey we're that will awaken people to say hey we're that will awaken people to say hey we're not useless leaders we're not people who not useless leaders we're not people who not useless leaders we're not people who have no value we're valuable people we have no value we're valuable people we have no value we're valuable people we were created we were given dignity our were created we were given dignity our were created we were given dignity our families are to be free we are to be families are to be free we are to be families are to be free we are to be respected and and we are to respect one respected and and we are to respect one respected and and we are to respect one another that's the message of Genesis another that's the message of Genesis another that's the message of Genesis that's a great story that's a great story that's a great story I mean it's the opposite from the agenda I mean it's the opposite from the agenda I mean it's the opposite from the agenda that's now being put into action how that's now being put into action how that's now being put into action how come this isn't publicized other than in come this isn't publicized other than in come this isn't publicized other than in your work well I guess I stumbled across your work well I guess I stumbled across your work well I guess I stumbled across this and I'm out now George to get the this and I'm out now George to get the this and I'm out now George to get the world to know this and I hope I get a world to know this and I hope I get a world to know this and I hope I get a few helpers because this is going to few helpers because this is going to few helpers because this is going to empower people to be courageous and to

empower people to be courageous and to empower people to be courageous and to have some hope at last after all other have some hope at last after all other have some hope at last after all other than divine intervention scientifically than divine intervention scientifically than divine intervention scientifically what caused it to form so fast it could what caused it to form so fast it could what caused it to form so fast it could not form so fast given its own natural not form so fast given its own natural not form so fast given its own natural state it would have had to tighten state it would have had to tighten state it would have had to tighten slowly it there had to have been an slowly it there had to have been an slowly it there had to have been an intervention there was intervention so intervention there was intervention so intervention there was intervention so some some divine power yes check this some some divine power yes check this some some divine power yes check this thing in the high gear exactly that's thing in the high gear exactly that's thing in the high gear exactly that's the only scientific thing that makes the only scientific thing that makes the only scientific thing that makes sense about it because the you take the sense about it because the you take the sense about it because the you take the laws of nature they wouldn't let it laws of nature they wouldn't let it laws of nature they wouldn't let it happen would you assume the other happen would you assume the other happen would you assume the other planets were formed the same way well we planets were formed the same way well we planets were formed the same way well we can only extrapolate I suppose from our can only extrapolate I suppose from our can only extrapolate I suppose from our own planet but I suppose it would make own planet but I suppose it would make own planet but I suppose it would make sense that if they happen to this planet sense that if they happen to this planet sense that if they happen to this planet would happen to others pretty remarkable would happen to others pretty remarkable would happen to others pretty remarkable let's take just the few minutes that we let's take just the few minutes that we let's take just the few minutes that we have and then we'll take phone calls have and then we'll take phone calls have and then we'll take phone calls next hour with you Jonathan back about next hour with you Jonathan back about next hour with you Jonathan back about structures on other planets and on the structures on other planets and on the structures on other planets and on the moon yeah they could be there well yes moon yeah they could be there well yes moon yeah they could be there well yes they could very well be there and they they could very well be there and they they could very well be there and they have it and I believe they have a human have it and I believe they have a human have it and I believe they have a human explanation mean we've been to the moon explanation mean we've been to the moon explanation mean we've been to the moon before we've been to the moon now we before we've been to the moon now we before we've been to the moon now we don't we do not have to invent people don't we do not have to invent people don't we do not have to invent people from worlds in many galaxies away to from worlds in many galaxies away to from worlds in many galaxies away to have constructed these whether we're have constructed these whether we're have constructed these whether we're very close ourselves why couldn't we very close ourselves why couldn't we very close ourselves why couldn't we have done it I think I think it's have done it I think I think it's have done it I think I think it's happened I think people who think they happened I think people who think they happened I think people who think they see see see right my structures on the moon or on right my structures on the moon or on right my structures on the moon or on Mars I think they're right people like

Mars I think they're right people like Mars I think they're right people like that yes I believe you're right and it's that yes I believe you're right and it's that yes I believe you're right and it's interesting that the Russians sputnik's interesting that the Russians sputnik's interesting that the Russians sputnik's went there was a Russian probe to Mars went there was a Russian probe to Mars went there was a Russian probe to Mars some years ago and they looked down and some years ago and they looked down and some years ago and they looked down and they believed that they had seen a they believed that they had seen a they believed that they had seen a structure of a city a circular city was structure of a city a circular city was structure of a city a circular city was with streets coming up like spokes of a with streets coming up like spokes of a with streets coming up like spokes of a wheel and of course they were shouted wheel and of course they were shouted wheel and of course they were shouted down by the West and I think perhaps the down by the West and I think perhaps the down by the West and I think perhaps the Russian scientists had seen something Russian scientists had seen something Russian scientists had seen something there I believe that there were nuclear there I believe that there were nuclear there I believe that there were nuclear wars on this planet in the past don't wars on this planet in the past don't wars on this planet in the past don't you I mean there's a lot of evidence you you I mean there's a lot of evidence you you I mean there's a lot of evidence you know there's a green glass and the know there's a green glass and the know there's a green glass and the deserts there and what causes that deserts there and what causes that deserts there and what causes that atomic energy is able to cause that so atomic energy is able to cause that so atomic energy is able to cause that so what's new for you next where do you go what's new for you next where do you go what's new for you next where do you go after the well the weapon of the global after the well the weapon of the global after the well the weapon of the global sphere is that the book out yet I sphere is that the book out yet I sphere is that the book out yet I couldn't find it obviously no it's only couldn't find it obviously no it's only couldn't find it obviously no it's only available on my website at the moment available on my website at the moment available on my website at the moment George but I hope we can get it out to a George but I hope we can get it out to a George but I hope we can get it out to a wider audience soon ok that's who I was wider audience soon ok that's who I was wider audience soon ok that's who I was looking at it on the website but I went looking at it on the website but I went looking at it on the website but I went on Amazon a week ago to try to pick it on Amazon a week ago to try to pick it on Amazon a week ago to try to pick it up and it's not up there yet we got to up and it's not up there yet we got to up and it's not up there yet we got to get you on that thank you get you on that thank you get you on that thank you get you going with that not the speed of get you going with that not the speed of get you going with that not the speed of all of this you are convinced then all of this you are convinced then all of this you are convinced then mankind intelligent mankind is how old is correct we've got to take it more is correct we've got to take it more seriously than we have been and that seriously than we have been and that seriously than we have been and that there is no reason to believe that the

there is no reason to believe that the there is no reason to believe that the there's no scientific reason why the there's no scientific reason why the there's no scientific reason why the strata of the earth that we see today in strata of the earth that we see today in strata of the earth that we see today in the geological column could not have all the geological column could not have all the geological column could not have all been laid down by catastrophe mostly been laid down by catastrophe mostly been laid down by catastrophe mostly during that great disaster in the past during that great disaster in the past during that great disaster in the past and that what we look at is taking and that what we look at is taking and that what we look at is taking millions or hundreds of millions of millions or hundreds of millions of millions or hundreds of millions of years was not necessarily so because years was not necessarily so because years was not necessarily so because this strata tell shows us I mean what this strata tell shows us I mean what this strata tell shows us I mean what we've got for example and in my book we've got for example and in my book we've got for example and in my book I've got a picture of a man in New I've got a picture of a man in New I've got a picture of a man in New Castle coal fields in Australia standing Castle coal fields in Australia standing Castle coal fields in Australia standing beside a tree that penetrates 14 beside a tree that penetrates 14 beside a tree that penetrates 14 writer of coal and by the geological writer of coal and by the geological writer of coal and by the geological theory each one of those 14 would have theory each one of those 14 would have theory each one of those 14 would have taken millions of years to have been taken millions of years to have been taken millions of years to have been laid down laid down laid down but here's one tree undissolved not but here's one tree undissolved not but here's one tree undissolved not rotted away standing up penetrating 14 rotted away standing up penetrating 14 rotted away standing up penetrating 14 layers of coal layers of coal layers of coal now we call these objects polystrate and now we call these objects polystrate and now we call these objects polystrate and they're not really there all over the they're not really there all over the they're not really there all over the world they show that the the beds of world they show that the the beds of world they show that the the beds of rock will lay down rapidly before their rock will lay down rapidly before their rock will lay down rapidly before their their contents had time to decay so this their contents had time to decay so this their contents had time to decay so this gives us from the Precambrian up to the gives us from the Precambrian up to the gives us from the Precambrian up to the most recent a very short time span for most recent a very short time span for most recent a very short time span for laying down a table strata and if you go laying down a table strata and if you go laying down a table strata and if you go up to mountain Helens where the up to mountain Helens where the up to mountain Helens where the eruptions what what here was that oh eruptions what what here was that oh eruptions what what here was that oh geez that was some time ago geez that was some time ago geez that was some time ago yep the other 1980s or something yeah yep the other 1980s or something yeah yep the other 1980s or something yeah got a while the Estrada there that has got a while the Estrada there that has got a while the Estrada there that has hundreds of other layers just like our

hundreds of other layers just like our hundreds of other layers just like our strata in the rocks around the world strata in the rocks around the world strata in the rocks around the world today and always were formed in just two today and always were formed in just two today and always were formed in just two days a whole Canyon I think about 150 days a whole Canyon I think about 150 days a whole Canyon I think about 150 feet deep was formally informed in one feet deep was formally informed in one feet deep was formally informed in one day so catastrophe can cause these day so catastrophe can cause these day so catastrophe can cause these things to happen our listeners are quick things to happen our listeners are quick things to happen our listeners are quick may 18th 1980 that's when the eruption may 18th 1980 that's when the eruption may 18th 1980 that's when the eruption started okay well thank you that was started okay well thank you that was started okay well thank you that was wonderful here 1983 now coal doesn't wonderful here 1983 now coal doesn't wonderful here 1983 now coal doesn't take millions of years to form coal has take millions of years to form coal has take millions of years to form coal has been formed in the laboratory in just 28 been formed in the laboratory in just 28 been formed in the laboratory in just 28 days good black good grade coal can we days good black good grade coal can we days good black good grade coal can we do the same thing with diamonds I do the same thing with diamonds I do the same thing with diamonds I believe so yes all of these things can believe so yes all of these things can believe so yes all of these things can be done at artificially and I can be be done at artificially and I can be be done at artificially and I can be done in the short period of time so when done in the short period of time so when done in the short period of time so when we are saying that must take millions of we are saying that must take millions of we are saying that must take millions of years it doesn't must take millions of years it doesn't must take millions of years it doesn't must take millions of years it can happen very quickly given a years it can happen very quickly given a years it can happen very quickly given a catastrophic laying down of the strata catastrophic laying down of the strata catastrophic laying down of the strata you know if the work of Michael Cremo no you know if the work of Michael Cremo no you know if the work of Michael Cremo no doubt worried yes a wonderful work in doubt worried yes a wonderful work in doubt worried yes a wonderful work in very similar to mine in many ways he very similar to mine in many ways he very similar to mine in many ways he touches on an ancient technology and I touches on an ancient technology and I touches on an ancient technology and I love his work on that have you two ever love his work on that have you two ever love his work on that have you two ever work together I've never met Michael work together I've never met Michael work together I've never met Michael good day yes I believe so you'd like me good day yes I believe so you'd like me good day yes I believe so you'd like me you're in Australia right now you're in Australia right now you're in Australia right now right actually not too far away we're right actually not too far away we're right actually not too far away we're little Isles of New Zealand and you have little Isles of New Zealand and you have little Isles of New Zealand and you have escaped the floods down there escaped the floods down there escaped the floods down there yes thank you George we have in fact yes thank you George we have in fact yes thank you George we have in fact we're getting a we're getting our Island we're getting a we're getting our Island we're getting a we're getting our Island a violently hot summer down here it's a violently hot summer down here it's a violently hot summer down here it's beautiful really but El Nina is bringing beautiful really but El Nina is bringing beautiful really but El Nina is bringing New Zealand to the tropics and in New Zealand to the tropics and in New Zealand to the tropics and in climate

climate climate it is a run about we're talking about it is a run about we're talking about it is a run about we're talking about these calamities Australia's got a big these calamities Australia's got a big these calamities Australia's got a big one down there well I've got a colleague one down there well I've got a colleague one down there well I've got a colleague in Australia and he's surrounded he in Australia and he's surrounded he in Australia and he's surrounded he couldn't get out of his house for more couldn't get out of his house for more couldn't get out of his house for more than a week and when he did get out he than a week and when he did get out he than a week and when he did get out he couldn't get home for almost a fortnight couldn't get home for almost a fortnight couldn't get home for almost a fortnight this theory of the rock formation do you this theory of the rock formation do you this theory of the rock formation do you think that's the smoking gun yes I think think that's the smoking gun yes I think think that's the smoking gun yes I think you've put that very beautifully this is you've put that very beautifully this is you've put that very beautifully this is the smoking gun that can destroy the the smoking gun that can destroy the the smoking gun that can destroy the work of the of the globalist agenda and work of the of the globalist agenda and work of the of the globalist agenda and also it can destroy the evolution theory also it can destroy the evolution theory also it can destroy the evolution theory which has brought about this nihilistic which has brought about this nihilistic which has brought about this nihilistic attitude unfortunately at what point in attitude unfortunately at what point in attitude unfortunately at what point in your career did you think evolution was your career did you think evolution was your career did you think evolution was hogwash hogwash hogwash when I began to investigate who did men when I began to investigate who did men when I began to investigate who did men secrets and suddenly all these outer secrets and suddenly all these outer secrets and suddenly all these outer part were out of place artifacts started part were out of place artifacts started part were out of place artifacts started no longer to make sense within the no longer to make sense within the no longer to make sense within the framework that we've been taught and it framework that we've been taught and it framework that we've been taught and it became obvious that a caveman had became obvious that a caveman had became obvious that a caveman had sophisticated clothing for example but sophisticated clothing for example but sophisticated clothing for example but we've got cave drawings that go back we've got cave drawings that go back we've got cave drawings that go back several thousand years and these were several thousand years and these were several thousand years and these were contemporary with the most blood contemporary with the most blood contemporary with the most blood civilizations i think the good evidence civilizations i think the good evidence civilizations i think the good evidence for this now because of the the for this now because of the the for this now because of the the structure or the type of artwork that structure or the type of artwork that structure or the type of artwork that they had in the caves is very similar to they had in the caves is very similar to they had in the caves is very similar to that of the early that of the early that of the early Sumerians and Egyptians the cavemen Sumerians and Egyptians the cavemen Sumerians and Egyptians the cavemen cavemen artwork and it shows people in cavemen artwork and it shows people in cavemen artwork and it shows people in in in pencils and with purses and hats in in pencils and with purses and hats in in pencils and with purses and hats and all sorts of things this indicate

and all sorts of things this indicate and all sorts of things this indicate that cavemen was he hadn't he had a that cavemen was he hadn't he had a that cavemen was he hadn't he had a civilized beginning and just like today civilized beginning and just like today civilized beginning and just like today up here in New Zealand we've got a man up here in New Zealand we've got a man up here in New Zealand we've got a man who went bush and me he came living in a who went bush and me he came living in a who went bush and me he came living in a cave he was a schoolteacher before that cave he was a schoolteacher before that cave he was a schoolteacher before that but he got a little bit sick of the but he got a little bit sick of the but he got a little bit sick of the retros okay people had to take refuge retros okay people had to take refuge retros okay people had to take refuge when their cities were destroyed by when their cities were destroyed by when their cities were destroyed by nuclear holocaust by buying there are nuclear holocaust by buying there are nuclear holocaust by buying there are some natural means and they are not the some natural means and they are not the some natural means and they are not the remnants of evolution they're rather the remnants of evolution they're rather the remnants of evolution they're rather the survivors of destruction of civilization survivors of destruction of civilization survivors of destruction of civilization how how how Forgotten secrets are up there or hidden Forgotten secrets are up there or hidden Forgotten secrets are up there or hidden secrets in my book I've listed just over secrets in my book I've listed just over secrets in my book I've listed just over a thousand that that job the tip of it a thousand that that job the tip of it a thousand that that job the tip of it tens of thousands have I went through tens of thousands have I went through tens of thousands have I went through tens of thousands to get to whittle it tens of thousands to get to whittle it tens of thousands to get to whittle it down to that down to that down to that speaking of tips you said the Egyptians speaking of tips you said the Egyptians speaking of tips you said the Egyptians had power drills that worked five had power drills that worked five had power drills that worked five hundred times faster than what we have hundred times faster than what we have hundred times faster than what we have five hundred times faster and that's the five hundred times faster and that's the five hundred times faster and that's the as a verdict of experts who are involved as a verdict of experts who are involved as a verdict of experts who are involved in that industry by looking at the in that industry by looking at the in that industry by looking at the Maureen I guess that's right here and Maureen I guess that's right here and Maureen I guess that's right here and it's traumatic all by itself of it's traumatic all by itself of it's traumatic all by itself of everything you've investigated Jonathan everything you've investigated Jonathan everything you've investigated Jonathan everything what one secret just blows everything what one secret just blows everything what one secret just blows your mind well I I do think that I think your mind well I I do think that I think your mind well I I do think that I think probably that by the way you sound like probably that by the way you sound like probably that by the way you sound like the angel in the movie It's a Wonderful the angel in the movie It's a Wonderful the angel in the movie It's a Wonderful Life clearance but if but but if there's

Life clearance but if but but if there's Life clearance but if but but if there's one thing out there that you stumbled one thing out there that you stumbled one thing out there that you stumbled across that you just shake your head across that you just shake your head across that you just shake your head what is it I think it's the underground what is it I think it's the underground what is it I think it's the underground tunnels that go for hundreds of miles tunnels that go for hundreds of miles tunnels that go for hundreds of miles and and many of the long distance of and and many of the long distance of and and many of the long distance of them shows that they've been cut with them shows that they've been cut with them shows that they've been cut with something like a laser beam because something like a laser beam because something like a laser beam because there's no she's in no residue no rubble there's no she's in no residue no rubble there's no she's in no residue no rubble on the outside or anywhere just looks on the outside or anywhere just looks on the outside or anywhere just looks like it's been cut and the rocks been like it's been cut and the rocks been like it's been cut and the rocks been melted or maybe the old jules verne the melted or maybe the old jules verne the melted or maybe the old jules verne the story of Journey to the Center of the story of Journey to the Center of the story of Journey to the Center of the Earth is real well you know fiction is Earth is real well you know fiction is Earth is real well you know fiction is often very truth effect well absolutely often very truth effect well absolutely often very truth effect well absolutely you want to take some phone calls for you want to take some phone calls for you want to take some phone calls for the final hour yeah we'll do that okay the final hour yeah we'll do that okay the final hour yeah we'll do that okay this is what we're gonna do we're gonna this is what we're gonna do we're gonna this is what we're gonna do we're gonna open up the phone lines will give you an open up the phone lines will give you an open up the phone lines will give you an opportunity to talk with Jonathan gray opportunity to talk with Jonathan gray opportunity to talk with Jonathan gray about dead men's secrets and the weapons about dead men's secrets and the weapons about dead men's secrets and the weapons the globalists fear you've heard what the globalists fear you've heard what the globalists fear you've heard what we've been talking about so I'm sure we've been talking about so I'm sure we've been talking about so I'm sure you've been like gosh the phones are you've been like gosh the phones are you've been like gosh the phones are ringing already so we'll be back in just ringing already so we'll be back in just ringing already so we'll be back in just a moment if you need to email me that a moment if you need to email me that a moment if you need to email me that you George at coast to coast am dot-com you George at coast to coast am dot-com you George at coast to coast am dot-com and also go to our website those of you and also go to our website those of you and also go to our website those of you are interested in spending pennies a day are interested in spending pennies a day are interested in spending pennies a day to become a coast insider you can do all to become a coast insider you can do all to become a coast insider you can do all that by going to coast to coast am calm that by going to coast to coast am calm that by going to coast to coast am calm as well we'll be right back with your as well we'll be right back with your as well we'll be right back with your phone calls phone calls phone calls on coast-to-coast a on coast-to-coast a on coast-to-coast a while we've got the international while we've got the international while we've got the international Explorer Jonathan Gray with us and we're Explorer Jonathan Gray with us and we're Explorer Jonathan Gray with us and we're gonna take your calls with him when we gonna take your calls with him when we gonna take your calls with him when we come right back on coast to coast am and come right back on coast to coast am and come right back on coast to coast am and welcome back we're with Jonathan gray welcome back we're with Jonathan gray welcome back we're with Jonathan gray Jonathan have you ever gone on a Jonathan have you ever gone on a Jonathan have you ever gone on a dinosaur bone dig no but I know people

dinosaur bone dig no but I know people dinosaur bone dig no but I know people who have I have friends that have been who have I have friends that have been who have I have friends that have been that's a very interesting occupation that's a very interesting occupation that's a very interesting occupation sure is that that's got to be pretty sure is that that's got to be pretty sure is that that's got to be pretty fulfilling too huh oh yes very fulfilling too huh oh yes very fulfilling too huh oh yes very fulfilling and another interesting thing fulfilling and another interesting thing fulfilling and another interesting thing about dinosaur was this that dinosaur about dinosaur was this that dinosaur about dinosaur was this that dinosaur blood has been found still to exist in blood has been found still to exist in blood has been found still to exist in dinosaur bones if you can find dinosaur dinosaur bones if you can find dinosaur dinosaur bones if you can find dinosaur blood can't you clone it well I suppose blood can't you clone it well I suppose blood can't you clone it well I suppose that would be possible yes Jurassic Park that would be possible yes Jurassic Park that would be possible yes Jurassic Park here we go hmm that's fascinating is it here we go hmm that's fascinating is it here we go hmm that's fascinating is it is it a good career for somebody going is it a good career for somebody going is it a good career for somebody going to school right now to become an to school right now to become an to school right now to become an archeologist oh yes yes there's still archeologist oh yes yes there's still archeologist oh yes yes there's still plenty to be found in fact the the plenty to be found in fact the the plenty to be found in fact the the consensus is that the discoveries in consensus is that the discoveries in consensus is that the discoveries in Egypt probably would still outnumber by Egypt probably would still outnumber by Egypt probably would still outnumber by a hundred to one what we've already a hundred to one what we've already a hundred to one what we've already found under the desert cleanse and what found under the desert cleanse and what found under the desert cleanse and what about jobs where do they generally work about jobs where do they generally work about jobs where do they generally work at the university level he is yes at the university level he is yes at the university level he is yes normally okay let's go take some calls normally okay let's go take some calls normally okay let's go take some calls here we'll go to first-time caller here we'll go to first-time caller here we'll go to first-time caller Richard in Los Angeles shear up with us Richard in Los Angeles shear up with us Richard in Los Angeles shear up with us hey Richard go ahead yes hi George I hey Richard go ahead yes hi George I hey Richard go ahead yes hi George I have a question for you I was in regard have a question for you I was in regard have a question for you I was in regard to your mentioning Genesis and the to your mentioning Genesis and the to your mentioning Genesis and the debunking of evolution and these debunking of evolution and these debunking of evolution and these globalist not wanting that to be exposed globalist not wanting that to be exposed globalist not wanting that to be exposed and what I'm wondering is couldn't there and what I'm wondering is couldn't there and what I'm wondering is couldn't there be any divine intervention can God be any divine intervention can God be any divine intervention can God intervene in some way why do these intervene in some way why do these intervene in some way why do these people why are they allowed to carry out people why are they allowed to carry out people why are they allowed to carry out this monstrous plan what can we do well

this monstrous plan what can we do well this monstrous plan what can we do well I think individually it's a bit a big I think individually it's a bit a big I think individually it's a bit a big subject and would require probably a subject and would require probably a subject and would require probably a whole broadcaster what we can do is to whole broadcaster what we can do is to whole broadcaster what we can do is to share the news with others around us share the news with others around us share the news with others around us until it becomes such a worldwide until it becomes such a worldwide until it becomes such a worldwide knowledge that they'll have a hard job knowledge that they'll have a hard job knowledge that they'll have a hard job suppressing the people that they want to suppressing the people that they want to suppressing the people that they want to get rid of yes but how do you say people get rid of yes but how do you say people get rid of yes but how do you say people away individual people are waking up I'm away individual people are waking up I'm away individual people are waking up I'm glad to say glad to say glad to say we just want everyone to wake up because we just want everyone to wake up because we just want everyone to wake up because it's going to be much harder for them to it's going to be much harder for them to it's going to be much harder for them to fulfill their agenda if they realize fulfill their agenda if they realize fulfill their agenda if they realize it's not going to be as easy as they it's not going to be as easy as they it's not going to be as easy as they thought they had made it and I'll thank thought they had made it and I'll thank thought they had made it and I'll thank you for this program and thank both of you for this program and thank both of you for this program and thank both of you thank you very much sure thing you thank you very much sure thing you thank you very much sure thing tell me about cavemen and their tell me about cavemen and their tell me about cavemen and their paintings that go back thousands of paintings that go back thousands of paintings that go back thousands of years what have you uncovered there well years what have you uncovered there well years what have you uncovered there well kaity paintings are a very interesting kaity paintings are a very interesting kaity paintings are a very interesting subject down on the Kalahari Desert of subject down on the Kalahari Desert of subject down on the Kalahari Desert of Southwest Africa there are there are Southwest Africa there are there are Southwest Africa there are there are cave paintings of men in elaborate cave paintings of men in elaborate cave paintings of men in elaborate garments men with blonde beards garments men with blonde beards garments men with blonde beards well styled here and they wear boots well styled here and they wear boots well styled here and they wear boots multicolored shirts multicolored shirts multicolored shirts coats gloves boots there's a woman coats gloves boots there's a woman coats gloves boots there's a woman wearing a short sleeve pullover closely wearing a short sleeve pullover closely wearing a short sleeve pullover closely fitting breeches and gloves and garters fitting breeches and gloves and garters fitting breeches and gloves and garters and slippers how about that okay let's and slippers how about that okay let's and slippers how about that okay let's go to Phoenix Arizona go to Phoenix Arizona go to Phoenix Arizona Virgil west of the Rockies I'm Virgil great great I'm so glad to be able to great great I'm so glad to be able to talk with you guys about this um this is

talk with you guys about this um this is talk with you guys about this um this is awesome well concerning the ancient awesome well concerning the ancient awesome well concerning the ancient knowledge and history and stuff like knowledge and history and stuff like knowledge and history and stuff like that I have a story to tell you guys see that I have a story to tell you guys see that I have a story to tell you guys see I'm of Apache and Navajo descent my I'm of Apache and Navajo descent my I'm of Apache and Navajo descent my grandmother was a medicine woman out on grandmother was a medicine woman out on grandmother was a medicine woman out on the reservation and she told me a story the reservation and she told me a story the reservation and she told me a story one night when I was a little kid about one night when I was a little kid about one night when I was a little kid about um the Stars and that this story was um the Stars and that this story was um the Stars and that this story was passed down to her her great-grandfather passed down to her her great-grandfather passed down to her her great-grandfather - from his great-grandfather from his - from his great-grandfather from his - from his great-grandfather from his great-grandpa back generations but the great-grandpa back generations but the great-grandpa back generations but the story goes is that story goes is that story goes is that out there in space and that it's dark is out there in space and that it's dark is out there in space and that it's dark is cold there's no oxygen that you wouldn't cold there's no oxygen that you wouldn't cold there's no oxygen that you wouldn't be able to breathe out there and that if be able to breathe out there and that if be able to breathe out there and that if you were to take a rock and throw it it you were to take a rock and throw it it you were to take a rock and throw it it would keep on going until it actually would keep on going until it actually would keep on going until it actually hits them that's pretty magical yeah and hits them that's pretty magical yeah and hits them that's pretty magical yeah and well it just kind of what's the physics well it just kind of what's the physics well it just kind of what's the physics behind that well yeah I mean it kind of behind that well yeah I mean it kind of behind that well yeah I mean it kind of just got me thinking as a little kid just got me thinking as a little kid just got me thinking as a little kid because I'm a study event I'm a student because I'm a study event I'm a student because I'm a study event I'm a student of anthropology and it got me thinking of anthropology and it got me thinking of anthropology and it got me thinking about where this knowledge came from how about where this knowledge came from how about where this knowledge came from how they knew that there is no oxygen up they knew that there is no oxygen up they knew that there is no oxygen up there and that the the physics of them there and that the the physics of them there and that the the physics of them knowing that knowing that knowing that being no gravity that things could keep being no gravity that things could keep being no gravity that things could keep on going until it hits something okay I on going until it hits something okay I on going until it hits something okay I stumbled across by the way Jonathan an stumbled across by the way Jonathan an stumbled across by the way Jonathan an old movie of us of you know military old movie of us of you know military old movie of us of you know military troops they were in Afghanistan it was a troops they were in Afghanistan it was a troops they were in Afghanistan it was a movie now and they stumbled across movie now and they stumbled across movie now and they stumbled across Vermont as flying machines oh yeah Vermont as flying machines oh yeah Vermont as flying machines oh yeah that's a great little movie I mean I got that's a great little movie I mean I got that's a great little movie I mean I got a kick out of watching that fascinating

a kick out of watching that fascinating a kick out of watching that fascinating work I mean these but where are they work I mean these but where are they work I mean these but where are they where are the devices most of them what where are the devices most of them what where are the devices most of them what happened to well was a computer in the happened to well was a computer in the happened to well was a computer in the Athens museum there there are discovered Athens museum there there are discovered Athens museum there there are discovered a bullet hole in it a bullet hole in it a bullet hole in it a skull Hawaii of an Egyptian mummy in a skull Hawaii of an Egyptian mummy in a skull Hawaii of an Egyptian mummy in the British Museum the British Museum the British Museum they're also the skull of an animal shot they're also the skull of an animal shot they're also the skull of an animal shot with a some weapon that had the speed of with a some weapon that had the speed of with a some weapon that had the speed of a bullet in the Museum of Anthropology a bullet in the Museum of Anthropology a bullet in the Museum of Anthropology in Moscow there are there are objects in Moscow there are there are objects in Moscow there are there are objects found in coal and in Precambrian in found in coal and in Precambrian in found in coal and in Precambrian in museum private museums in the United museum private museums in the United museum private museums in the United States they're scattered around a bit States they're scattered around a bit States they're scattered around a bit okay next up we go to Wilmington okay next up we go to Wilmington okay next up we go to Wilmington Delaware robert east of the Rockies Delaware robert east of the Rockies Delaware robert east of the Rockies Roberts go ahead I've been fascinated Roberts go ahead I've been fascinated Roberts go ahead I've been fascinated with this case myself and see them on with this case myself and see them on with this case myself and see them on the internet I mean are they searching the internet I mean are they searching the internet I mean are they searching these caves to see if they can find these caves to see if they can find these caves to see if they can find maybe dinosaurs or you know where they maybe dinosaurs or you know where they maybe dinosaurs or you know where they go into these caves Jonathan what are go into these caves Jonathan what are go into these caves Jonathan what are they looking for all people do look for they looking for all people do look for they looking for all people do look for those sort of things but more what they those sort of things but more what they those sort of things but more what they find is not too much except the the find is not too much except the the find is not too much except the the empty tunnels and unless they come to empty tunnels and unless they come to empty tunnels and unless they come to the remains of where people used to live the remains of where people used to live the remains of where people used to live in in the cities in in the cities in in the cities what however my friend who was kidnapped what however my friend who was kidnapped what however my friend who was kidnapped by that tribe in the Amazon yes he spent by that tribe in the Amazon yes he spent by that tribe in the Amazon yes he spent four months I understand their before four months I understand their before four months I understand their before they let him out and while there they

they let him out and while there they they let him out and while there they showed him something that I'd actually showed him something that I'd actually showed him something that I'd actually written about indeed men secrets in my written about indeed men secrets in my written about indeed men secrets in my chapter on tunnels and that was an chapter on tunnels and that was an chapter on tunnels and that was an ancient flying machine that was still ancient flying machine that was still ancient flying machine that was still preserved their body the people left preserved their body the people left preserved their body the people left behind behind behind workable do you know he said in US and workable do you know he said in US and workable do you know he said in US and during at that time he took he made very during at that time he took he made very during at that time he took he made very careful measurements and he now has the careful measurements and he now has the careful measurements and he now has the specifications for this in his own specifications for this in his own specifications for this in his own position he's hoping to have somebody position he's hoping to have somebody position he's hoping to have somebody who can build a replica did it have an who can build a replica did it have an who can build a replica did it have an engine did he say engine did he say engine did he say no he hasn't gone that far he hasn't no he hasn't gone that far he hasn't no he hasn't gone that far he hasn't told me that much but it had some means told me that much but it had some means told me that much but it had some means of propulsion but going from my other of propulsion but going from my other of propulsion but going from my other research this seems to have been several research this seems to have been several research this seems to have been several ways in which ancient aircraft could ways in which ancient aircraft could ways in which ancient aircraft could lift off oh one was the use of mercury lift off oh one was the use of mercury lift off oh one was the use of mercury mercury in flight mercury in flight mercury in flight there's something about mercury that we there's something about mercury that we there's something about mercury that we don't use the French actually tried to don't use the French actually tried to don't use the French actually tried to use it in a possible space program a few use it in a possible space program a few use it in a possible space program a few years ago I'm not sure of the result of years ago I'm not sure of the result of years ago I'm not sure of the result of that but mercury is one electromagnetism that but mercury is one electromagnetism that but mercury is one electromagnetism is another these are methods we don't is another these are methods we don't is another these are methods we don't use what we use of course gas petrol use what we use of course gas petrol use what we use of course gas petrol petroleum and so on which is a petroleum and so on which is a petroleum and so on which is a sledgehammer a way to get off the ground sledgehammer a way to get off the ground sledgehammer a way to get off the ground and fly mean let's be trying to beat the and fly mean let's be trying to beat the and fly mean let's be trying to beat the laws of nature instead of work with them laws of nature instead of work with them laws of nature instead of work with them tell me about these lights that went on tell me about these lights that went on tell me about these lights that went on and off from this tribe down in the and off from this tribe down in the and off from this tribe down in the tunnels tunnels tunnels well these lights actually were part of well these lights actually were part of well these lights actually were part of a technology that appears to have been a technology that appears to have been a technology that appears to have been worldwide when the Spaniards came to worldwide when the Spaniards came to worldwide when the Spaniards came to South America South America South America I think the conquest the doors they I think the conquest the doors they I think the conquest the doors they reported they're a city at night could

reported they're a city at night could reported they're a city at night could still be seen with its lights on as it still be seen with its lights on as it still be seen with its lights on as it was a limestone you think I'm not sure was a limestone you think I'm not sure was a limestone you think I'm not sure that they were on pillars about 20 feet that they were on pillars about 20 feet that they were on pillars about 20 feet tall and they were big globes on top of tall and they were big globes on top of tall and they were big globes on top of the pillars which shone with the pillars which shone with the pillars which shone with luminescence at night in the daytime of luminescence at night in the daytime of luminescence at night in the daytime of course and it wasn't right that wasn't course and it wasn't right that wasn't course and it wasn't right that wasn't obvious but as a darkness came on the obvious but as a darkness came on the obvious but as a darkness came on the light would get brighter and brighter light would get brighter and brighter light would get brighter and brighter and brighter and light up the old and brighter and light up the old and brighter and light up the old streets okay back to our wildcard line streets okay back to our wildcard line streets okay back to our wildcard line now we'll go to Leonard and Hinckley now we'll go to Leonard and Hinckley now we'll go to Leonard and Hinckley Minnesota Minnesota Minnesota there you go Leonard you're up hi George there you go Leonard you're up hi George there you go Leonard you're up hi George great show right yeah he's doing a great great show right yeah he's doing a great great show right yeah he's doing a great job for us yes Jonathan um I gotta say job for us yes Jonathan um I gotta say job for us yes Jonathan um I gotta say that everything you said tonight is just that everything you said tonight is just that everything you said tonight is just so so interesting and enlightening and so so interesting and enlightening and so so interesting and enlightening and my favorite thing you've told us is that my favorite thing you've told us is that my favorite thing you've told us is that you know the scientific proof for the you know the scientific proof for the you know the scientific proof for the earth being created in such a short earth being created in such a short earth being created in such a short period of time but my question period of time but my question period of time but my question is regarding the Sumerians and their is regarding the Sumerians and their is regarding the Sumerians and their snake their deer deity being a snake and snake their deer deity being a snake and snake their deer deity being a snake and I when I learned about that I was I when I learned about that I was I when I learned about that I was curious to know is there any connection curious to know is there any connection curious to know is there any connection between the Sumerian deity and possibly between the Sumerian deity and possibly between the Sumerian deity and possibly the Hebrews and how Adam and Eve and the Hebrews and how Adam and Eve and the Hebrews and how Adam and Eve and colored a snake maybe using it as an colored a snake maybe using it as an colored a snake maybe using it as an example of untrue knowledge in example of untrue knowledge in example of untrue knowledge in comparison he is there's quite a comparison he is there's quite a comparison he is there's quite a similarity as a matter of fact all similarity as a matter of fact all similarity as a matter of fact all nations had a legend of mankind being

nations had a legend of mankind being nations had a legend of mankind being seduced by a being who took the form of seduced by a being who took the form of seduced by a being who took the form of a snake and serpent worship became a a snake and serpent worship became a a snake and serpent worship became a worldwide phenomenon still is in many worldwide phenomenon still is in many worldwide phenomenon still is in many parts of the world and the earthly gonzo parts of the world and the earthly gonzo parts of the world and the earthly gonzo epithelia three counterpart of what epithelia three counterpart of what epithelia three counterpart of what later on became Sun worship as well the later on became Sun worship as well the later on became Sun worship as well the Sun being the enlighten us physically of Sun being the enlighten us physically of Sun being the enlighten us physically of the planet they stated that the the the planet they stated that the the the planet they stated that the the serpent became the the spiritual serpent became the the spiritual serpent became the the spiritual enlightenment of the planet and led him enlightenment of the planet and led him enlightenment of the planet and led him away man away from his creator so that away man away from his creator so that away man away from his creator so that he could do his own thing and that was he could do his own thing and that was he could do his own thing and that was the that was the perversion of an the that was the perversion of an the that was the perversion of an original core of truth very interesting original core of truth very interesting original core of truth very interesting how all the nations took it on in in how all the nations took it on in in how all the nations took it on in in Egypt many of the structures the statues Egypt many of the structures the statues Egypt many of the structures the statues have that bird look to it alligator head have that bird look to it alligator head have that bird look to it alligator head look to it what do you think they were look to it what do you think they were look to it what do you think they were the bird symbol actually was there was the bird symbol actually was there was the bird symbol actually was there was another part of the same legend that the another part of the same legend that the another part of the same legend that the the first woman saw with her eyes the first woman saw with her eyes the first woman saw with her eyes something that tempted her and that the something that tempted her and that the something that tempted her and that the serpent was involved in the temptation serpent was involved in the temptation serpent was involved in the temptation but the hawk then became a symbol of a but the hawk then became a symbol of a but the hawk then became a symbol of a woman because the Hawks eye and just woman because the Hawks eye and just woman because the Hawks eye and just brought the birds head into the the brought the birds head into the the brought the birds head into the the symbolism of the the gods and goddesses symbolism of the the gods and goddesses symbolism of the the gods and goddesses of the pagans okay we go next to Palace of the pagans okay we go next to Palace of the pagans okay we go next to Palace vert is in California west of the vert is in California west of the vert is in California west of the Rockies hey Bill go ahead oh hi George Rockies hey Bill go ahead oh hi George Rockies hey Bill go ahead oh hi George hi Jonathan hi Jonathan hi Jonathan hi fantastic incredibly relevant um I

hi fantastic incredibly relevant um I hi fantastic incredibly relevant um I was in Palos Verdes Estates it kind of was in Palos Verdes Estates it kind of was in Palos Verdes Estates it kind of combines all the elements they've been combines all the elements they've been combines all the elements they've been talking about tonight talking about tonight talking about tonight on the highest per-capita incomes in the on the highest per-capita incomes in the on the highest per-capita incomes in the US and it's kind of off the beaten track US and it's kind of off the beaten track US and it's kind of off the beaten track in a lot of the top minds in aerospace in a lot of the top minds in aerospace in a lot of the top minds in aerospace live there and anyway it's a it's a you live there and anyway it's a it's a you live there and anyway it's a it's a you know the chemtrail you know the know the chemtrail you know the know the chemtrail you know the crosshatch is to center it over that um crosshatch is to center it over that um crosshatch is to center it over that um communities a lot and the last five communities a lot and the last five communities a lot and the last five years there's been such incredible years there's been such incredible years there's been such incredible erosion I mean you can see it you know erosion I mean you can see it you know erosion I mean you can see it you know from the right angle you can see from the right angle you can see from the right angle you can see hieroglyphics you can see symbols hieroglyphics you can see symbols hieroglyphics you can see symbols lettering code you know in you know all lettering code you know in you know all lettering code you know in you know all over the cliffs and different angles you over the cliffs and different angles you over the cliffs and different angles you sees elaborate face carvings and I think sees elaborate face carvings and I think sees elaborate face carvings and I think there's you know there's ancient secrets there's you know there's ancient secrets there's you know there's ancient secrets because you know the archaeology there's because you know the archaeology there's because you know the archaeology there's been extensive and everyone's you know been extensive and everyone's you know been extensive and everyone's you know super tight lipped you know you can't super tight lipped you know you can't super tight lipped you know you can't find any information at all and that's find any information at all and that's find any information at all and that's really incredible the erosion last five really incredible the erosion last five really incredible the erosion last five years I think they're using the years I think they're using the years I think they're using the chemtrails to foliate and defoliate chemtrails to foliate and defoliate chemtrails to foliate and defoliate areas if either you know uncovered and areas if either you know uncovered and areas if either you know uncovered and want to cover back up and another thing want to cover back up and another thing want to cover back up and another thing the last two weeks the the ocean bottom the last two weeks the the ocean bottom the last two weeks the the ocean bottom there has just come loose it's an there has just come loose it's an there has just come loose it's an unbelievable to semi giant boulders I unbelievable to semi giant boulders I unbelievable to semi giant boulders I mean tonnage and giant reefs have just mean tonnage and giant reefs have just mean tonnage and giant reefs have just come loose and been washing in you know come loose and been washing in you know come loose and been washing in you know just formed a whole different situation just formed a whole different situation just formed a whole different situation and you have the you know constant and you have the you know constant and you have the you know constant military you know stuff and they that military you know stuff and they that military you know stuff and they that the civilians and military they have a the civilians and military they have a the civilians and military they have a elaborate system of communicating ship elaborate system of communicating ship elaborate system of communicating ship to a to a price you know spacecraft in to a to a price you know spacecraft in to a to a price you know spacecraft in the sky planes and probably satellites the sky planes and probably satellites the sky planes and probably satellites and whatever and uh and there's been a and whatever and uh and there's been a and whatever and uh and there's been a in 2008-2009 and now last couple months in 2008-2009 and now last couple months in 2008-2009 and now last couple months there's been this frenzied activity like

there's been this frenzied activity like there's been this frenzied activity like convoys of cars just you know punching convoys of cars just you know punching convoys of cars just you know punching around you know it's in a big around you know it's in a big around you know it's in a big something's hurry yeah yeah it's a lot something's hurry yeah yeah it's a lot something's hurry yeah yeah it's a lot of stuff going on I mean you can visibly of stuff going on I mean you can visibly of stuff going on I mean you can visibly see the hieroglyphics in the cliff and I see the hieroglyphics in the cliff and I see the hieroglyphics in the cliff and I think it's it has some you know think it's it has some you know think it's it has some you know navigational value and whatnot have you navigational value and whatnot have you navigational value and whatnot have you heard Jonathan about ancient Egyptian heard Jonathan about ancient Egyptian heard Jonathan about ancient Egyptian artifacts found in the Grand Canyon oh artifacts found in the Grand Canyon oh artifacts found in the Grand Canyon oh yes yes yes yes yes yes a Smithsonian Explorer is reported to a Smithsonian Explorer is reported to a Smithsonian Explorer is reported to have discovered this cave way up high have discovered this cave way up high have discovered this cave way up high above the present river level and what above the present river level and what above the present river level and what he actually found was also a dock for he actually found was also a dock for he actually found was also a dock for ships up there too so the level of the ships up there too so the level of the ships up there too so the level of the canyon must have dropped rather quickly canyon must have dropped rather quickly canyon must have dropped rather quickly in just a few thousand years but inside in just a few thousand years but inside in just a few thousand years but inside there were there were there were dummies and Egyptian hieroglyphics and dummies and Egyptian hieroglyphics and dummies and Egyptian hieroglyphics and apparently according to the original apparently according to the original apparently according to the original report artifacts were taken to the report artifacts were taken to the report artifacts were taken to the Smithsonian but they deny having them Smithsonian but they deny having them Smithsonian but they deny having them now she's amazing what do you think of now she's amazing what do you think of now she's amazing what do you think of Noah's Ark where is it is it there is it Noah's Ark where is it is it there is it Noah's Ark where is it is it there is it up there and mount our right up there and mount our right up there and mount our right I started quite a skeptic on that the I started quite a skeptic on that the I started quite a skeptic on that the gorge I heard claims being made and I gorge I heard claims being made and I gorge I heard claims being made and I took my own teams we've been back there took my own teams we've been back there took my own teams we've been back there quite a number of times and we have quite a number of times and we have quite a number of times and we have found the remains of a structure which found the remains of a structure which found the remains of a structure which is the same length as described in the is the same length as described in the is the same length as described in the book of Genesis how high up about book of Genesis how high up about book of Genesis how high up about between six and seven thousand but not between six and seven thousand but not between six and seven thousand but not on Mount Ararat itself it's to the south on Mount Ararat itself it's to the south on Mount Ararat itself it's to the south okay interestingly the book of Genesis

okay interestingly the book of Genesis okay interestingly the book of Genesis doesn't sign out there we read it says doesn't sign out there we read it says doesn't sign out there we read it says the mountains of the mountain zone the mountains of the mountain zone the mountains of the mountain zone that's true yeah that's true yeah that's true yeah and now to ever it itself is apparently and now to ever it itself is apparently and now to ever it itself is apparently a post flood of volcanic mountains only a post flood of volcanic mountains only a post flood of volcanic mountains only about three and a half thousand years about three and a half thousand years about three and a half thousand years old this came up it's come up in Turkish old this came up it's come up in Turkish old this came up it's come up in Turkish history well if this is tied in to that history well if this is tied in to that history well if this is tied in to that calamity from 2 3 4 5 BC and then the calamity from 2 3 4 5 BC and then the calamity from 2 3 4 5 BC and then the Noah got the got the inside scoop to Noah got the got the inside scoop to Noah got the got the inside scoop to start building the ark then there must start building the ark then there must start building the ark then there must have been divine intervention 20 years have been divine intervention 20 years have been divine intervention 20 years before and what here we how we had to go before and what here we how we had to go before and what here we how we had to go about it unless they had been about it unless they had been about it unless they had been intervention I believe you're right Bob intervention I believe you're right Bob intervention I believe you're right Bob and Miami Florida you're up with us go and Miami Florida you're up with us go and Miami Florida you're up with us go ahead Bob you guys were talking about ahead Bob you guys were talking about ahead Bob you guys were talking about about Genesis I thought I'd like to add about Genesis I thought I'd like to add about Genesis I thought I'd like to add on to it okay okay on to it okay okay on to it okay okay Jonathan you said that the earth cools Jonathan you said that the earth cools Jonathan you said that the earth cools really fast right here okay and then and really fast right here okay and then and really fast right here okay and then and then George made a statement said that then George made a statement said that then George made a statement said that the earth was a gas planet at that time the earth was a gas planet at that time the earth was a gas planet at that time right okay now what was it before it was right okay now what was it before it was right okay now what was it before it was a gas planet I'm I'm not done your a gas planet I'm I'm not done your a gas planet I'm I'm not done your choice but no no that's not well what we choice but no no that's not well what we choice but no no that's not well what we go back to is our first cause and there go back to is our first cause and there go back to is our first cause and there was no according to the laws of cause was no according to the laws of cause was no according to the laws of cause and effect which we know were confirmed and effect which we know were confirmed and effect which we know were confirmed the effect cannot be greater than the the effect cannot be greater than the the effect cannot be greater than the cause in other words

cause in other words cause in other words Mehta or guests could not form from non Mehta or guests could not form from non Mehta or guests could not form from non never by non gas is it so so we go back never by non gas is it so so we go back never by non gas is it so so we go back to a first cause again which is what who to a first cause again which is what who to a first cause again which is what who I guess we call that first cause god I guess we call that first cause god I guess we call that first cause god the same one who created the earth and the same one who created the earth and the same one who created the earth and solidified it fast solidified it fast solidified it fast okay okay no no I'm gonna read from from okay okay no no I'm gonna read from from okay okay no no I'm gonna read from from our Genesis from the older in the our Genesis from the older in the our Genesis from the older in the Testament in the beginning God created Testament in the beginning God created Testament in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and this is my the heavens and the earth and this is my the heavens and the earth and this is my point point point the first was without for she bowed that the first was without for she bowed that the first was without for she bowed that to me something gaseous would be without to me something gaseous would be without to me something gaseous would be without form a gas cloud exactly yeah okay now form a gas cloud exactly yeah okay now form a gas cloud exactly yeah okay now how he Moses wrote jealous right how he Moses wrote jealous right how he Moses wrote jealous right actually in my book the the weapon the actually in my book the the weapon the actually in my book the the weapon the globalists fear or giving archaeological globalists fear or giving archaeological globalists fear or giving archaeological evidence that Moses did compiled Genesis evidence that Moses did compiled Genesis evidence that Moses did compiled Genesis but that he had at his fingertips a but that he had at his fingertips a but that he had at his fingertips a series of tablets that were written by series of tablets that were written by series of tablets that were written by eyewitnesses at the successive time of eyewitnesses at the successive time of eyewitnesses at the successive time of the events that are recorded so that it the events that are recorded so that it the events that are recorded so that it was the record was made very close to was the record was made very close to was the record was made very close to the event and then handed down from the event and then handed down from the event and then handed down from father to son until Moses compiled them father to son until Moses compiled them father to son until Moses compiled them into one book okay well but my point is into one book okay well but my point is into one book okay well but my point is this how did Moses know that the earth this how did Moses know that the earth this how did Moses know that the earth was without form well Moses had the was without form well Moses had the was without form well Moses had the tablets in front of him and the first tablets in front of him and the first tablets in front of him and the first tablet was the first two tablets are tablet was the first two tablets are tablet was the first two tablets are written by Adam because that they written by Adam because that they written by Adam because that they actually have his signature on the

actually have his signature on the actually have his signature on the bottom of them well I don't know that he bottom of them well I don't know that he bottom of them well I don't know that he could only have been told by his creator could only have been told by his creator could only have been told by his creator and guy exactly that he does record that and guy exactly that he does record that and guy exactly that he does record that that his creator spoke to him alright that his creator spoke to him alright that his creator spoke to him alright that's my hope I know somebody had to that's my hope I know somebody had to that's my hope I know somebody had to tell somebody had to tell him that part tell somebody had to tell him that part tell somebody had to tell him that part because he wasn't alive when it happened because he wasn't alive when it happened because he wasn't alive when it happened exactly exactly exactly and my money is all God that's good and my money is all God that's good and my money is all God that's good money you might be around you're gonna money you might be around you're gonna money you might be around you're gonna collect on that exactly collect on that exactly collect on that exactly hey we're gonna come back in just a hey we're gonna come back in just a hey we're gonna come back in just a moment we're gonna take more phone calls moment we're gonna take more phone calls moment we're gonna take more phone calls with Jonathan gray our final segment with Jonathan gray our final segment with Jonathan gray our final segment here on coast to coast and we're talking here on coast to coast and we're talking here on coast to coast and we're talking about two of his works dead men's about two of his works dead men's about two of his works dead men's secrets secrets secrets and the weapon the globalists fear and and the weapon the globalists fear and and the weapon the globalists fear and of course that we reviewed has to do of course that we reviewed has to do of course that we reviewed has to do with the formation of the planet and how with the formation of the planet and how with the formation of the planet and how it was done it was done it was done jonathan is convinced it was done by jonathan is convinced it was done by jonathan is convinced it was done by divine intervention Jonathan do you have divine intervention Jonathan do you have divine intervention Jonathan do you have an email you want to give out at all you an email you want to give out at all you an email you want to give out at all you want people to write you oh they'll be want people to write you oh they'll be want people to write you oh they'll be nauseous info at archaeology answers.com nauseous info at archaeology answers.com nauseous info at archaeology answers.com but I always have to spell archaeology but I always have to spell archaeology but I always have to spell archaeology George because it's a difficult word George because it's a difficult word George because it's a difficult word they for America I asked for rabbits they for America I asked for rabbits they for America I asked for rabbits sleeper Charlie H for Hannibal a for sleeper Charlie H for Hannibal a for sleeper Charlie H for Hannibal a for America Eve were elephant o for orange America Eve were elephant o for orange America Eve were elephant o for orange now the rest of it comes easy archeology now the rest of it comes easy archeology now the rest of it comes easy archeology answers you got to get that AE in there answers you got to get that AE in there answers you got to get that AE in there that's the tough part we'll be back in a that's the tough part we'll be back in a that's the tough part we'll be back in a moment final calls next and on our next moment final calls next and on our next moment final calls next and on our next coast-to-coast program sir Charles coast-to-coast program sir Charles coast-to-coast program sir Charles Schultz joins us a fossil hunters guide Schultz joins us a fossil hunters guide Schultz joins us a fossil hunters guide to Mars so get ready for that one when

to Mars so get ready for that one when to Mars so get ready for that one when we come back tomorrow night on we come back tomorrow night on we come back tomorrow night on coast-to-coast am Jonathan tell me about coast-to-coast am Jonathan tell me about coast-to-coast am Jonathan tell me about the story in the india-pakistan area of the story in the india-pakistan area of the story in the india-pakistan area of a man turned the glass what happened a man turned the glass what happened a man turned the glass what happened there you remember that one oh well yes there you remember that one oh well yes there you remember that one oh well yes in the 1800's the gentleman was in the 1800's the gentleman was in the 1800's the gentleman was exploring in the in the Northeast and exploring in the in the Northeast and exploring in the in the Northeast and forests and his foot gave way into a forests and his foot gave way into a forests and his foot gave way into a hole below him and he he made a larger hole below him and he he made a larger hole below him and he he made a larger aperture and he we pushed his way down aperture and he we pushed his way down aperture and he we pushed his way down and he found himself in a room but all and he found himself in a room but all and he found himself in a room but all the all the whole room had turned to the all the whole room had turned to the all the whole room had turned to glass sitting there on a chair appeared glass sitting there on a chair appeared glass sitting there on a chair appeared to be a statue made of glass and the to be a statue made of glass and the to be a statue made of glass and the gentleman looked but inside that statue gentleman looked but inside that statue gentleman looked but inside that statue he could see in internal Oh organs he could see in internal Oh organs he could see in internal Oh organs everything yes everything yes everything yes obviously this husband this whole person obviously this husband this whole person obviously this husband this whole person was now glass and there's only one thing was now glass and there's only one thing was now glass and there's only one thing can do that that's atomic energy Wow can do that that's atomic energy Wow can do that that's atomic energy Wow something happened there here and it's something happened there here and it's something happened there here and it's interesting that this area of course is interesting that this area of course is interesting that this area of course is is part of a story in one of the old is part of a story in one of the old is part of a story in one of the old Indian documents it speaks of nations at Indian documents it speaks of nations at Indian documents it speaks of nations at war with each other that we're one war with each other that we're one war with each other that we're one missile strike a city and missile strike a city and missile strike a city and straight out then they find some straight out then they find some straight out then they find some radioactive skeletons and Pakistan yes radioactive skeletons and Pakistan yes radioactive skeletons and Pakistan yes that's right that's right that's right in the ruins of mohenjo-daro in in the

in the ruins of mohenjo-daro in in the in the ruins of mohenjo-daro in in the Indus Valley area there is a square that Indus Valley area there is a square that Indus Valley area there is a square that has been unearthed a city square other has been unearthed a city square other has been unearthed a city square other buildings around the square have buildings around the square have buildings around the square have evidence of having been melted from evidence of having been melted from evidence of having been melted from radiated heat from above and there are radiated heat from above and there are radiated heat from above and there are quite a number of skeletons there that quite a number of skeletons there that quite a number of skeletons there that have been found to be radioactive in one have been found to be radioactive in one have been found to be radioactive in one one particular human-interest case like one particular human-interest case like one particular human-interest case like a woman in the main holding hands with a a woman in the main holding hands with a a woman in the main holding hands with a child and they didn't get out in time child and they didn't get out in time child and they didn't get out in time all right let's go back to the phones all right let's go back to the phones all right let's go back to the phones Mason City Iowa Justin's with us on Mason City Iowa Justin's with us on Mason City Iowa Justin's with us on coast to coast I Justin go ahead hi I coast to coast I Justin go ahead hi I coast to coast I Justin go ahead hi I got really a comment and then a question got really a comment and then a question got really a comment and then a question sure my comment is I'm really glad to sure my comment is I'm really glad to sure my comment is I'm really glad to hear as a Christian that there's been a hear as a Christian that there's been a hear as a Christian that there's been a scientific proof that the earth was scientific proof that the earth was scientific proof that the earth was created and my question to you is George created and my question to you is George created and my question to you is George um a couple years ago I believe it was a um a couple years ago I believe it was a um a couple years ago I believe it was a Timothy Geithner can't be for sure but Timothy Geithner can't be for sure but Timothy Geithner can't be for sure but someone in Washington was talking about someone in Washington was talking about someone in Washington was talking about a one-world justice system and then I a one-world justice system and then I a one-world justice system and then I start thinking about the New World Order start thinking about the New World Order start thinking about the New World Order I just wondering I in your opinion um I just wondering I in your opinion um I just wondering I in your opinion um how long do you think we are away from how long do you think we are away from how long do you think we are away from the New World Order I think we're right the New World Order I think we're right the New World Order I think we're right in it and that was Zig Banu Brzezinski in it and that was Zig Banu Brzezinski in it and that was Zig Banu Brzezinski who was talking about that and one of who was talking about that and one of who was talking about that and one of the things he was mentioning was that the things he was mentioning was that the things he was mentioning was that how all of us were becoming aware of how all of us were becoming aware of how all of us were becoming aware of what they wanted to do but I would say what they wanted to do but I would say what they wanted to do but I would say within five years we'll see even more within five years we'll see even more within five years we'll see even more dramatic pushes to get this thing done dramatic pushes to get this thing done dramatic pushes to get this thing done they're moving pretty darn fast now I

they're moving pretty darn fast now I they're moving pretty darn fast now I spoke to a friend is around OB I think spoke to a friend is around OB I think spoke to a friend is around OB I think it was 1990 and mentioning the New World it was 1990 and mentioning the New World it was 1990 and mentioning the New World Order and he was increasing as he said Order and he was increasing as he said Order and he was increasing as he said are you making that up are you making that up are you making that up he hadn't heard of it but everybody he hadn't heard of it but everybody he hadn't heard of it but everybody thinks we're hearing about it now it's a thinks we're hearing about it now it's a thinks we're hearing about it now it's a reality absolutely let's go to Amber reality absolutely let's go to Amber reality absolutely let's go to Amber tri-cities in the state of Washington tri-cities in the state of Washington tri-cities in the state of Washington first-time caller hello amber go ahead first-time caller hello amber go ahead first-time caller hello amber go ahead hi I was wondering about the coalition hi I was wondering about the coalition hi I was wondering about the coalition of the pyramids the Aztec temples is of the pyramids the Aztec temples is of the pyramids the Aztec temples is down here and other temples compared to down here and other temples compared to down here and other temples compared to where they may have been before the where they may have been before the where they may have been before the Continental Divide and the alignment Continental Divide and the alignment Continental Divide and the alignment with the Bermuda Triangle when you guys with the Bermuda Triangle when you guys with the Bermuda Triangle when you guys all right Jonathan first of all the all right Jonathan first of all the all right Jonathan first of all the similarities of all these pyramids yeah similarities of all these pyramids yeah similarities of all these pyramids yeah that's very interesting at certain times that's very interesting at certain times that's very interesting at certain times in history we have certain building in history we have certain building in history we have certain building styles meant today we've got the 21st styles meant today we've got the 21st styles meant today we've got the 21st century 20th century 21st century century 20th century 21st century century 20th century 21st century building style the skyscrapers and so on building style the skyscrapers and so on building style the skyscrapers and so on and shop fronts and whatever and and shop fronts and whatever and and shop fronts and whatever and worldwide that's more or less taken on worldwide that's more or less taken on worldwide that's more or less taken on in the 1800 you wouldn't see that so it in the 1800 you wouldn't see that so it in the 1800 you wouldn't see that so it does change each period has its own does change each period has its own does change each period has its own characteristics and the pyramids of characteristics and the pyramids of characteristics and the pyramids of Egypt the pyramids of china the pyramids Egypt the pyramids of china the pyramids Egypt the pyramids of china the pyramids on Tahiti in Australia in in the on Tahiti in Australia in in the on Tahiti in Australia in in the Americas all have similarities which Americas all have similarities which Americas all have similarities which suggests they were all constructed in suggests they were all constructed in suggests they were all constructed in the same general period of time although the same general period of time although the same general period of time although they have been out of place periods they have been out of place periods they have been out of place periods which pyramid construction has been made which pyramid construction has been made which pyramid construction has been made I know they they built one in Las Vegas I know they they built one in Las Vegas I know they they built one in Las Vegas today it's got a Luxor yes the general

today it's got a Luxor yes the general today it's got a Luxor yes the general period was was consistent with probably period was was consistent with probably period was was consistent with probably the period roundabout 2153 2 to about the period roundabout 2153 2 to about the period roundabout 2153 2 to about 1800 BC more or less and that would 1800 BC more or less and that would 1800 BC more or less and that would include the original per image and include the original per image and include the original per image and Mexico some of which were predecessors Mexico some of which were predecessors Mexico some of which were predecessors of the one foot followed tell me about of the one foot followed tell me about of the one foot followed tell me about this mystery satellite orbiting the this mystery satellite orbiting the this mystery satellite orbiting the poles what do we know about this all the poles what do we know about this all the poles what do we know about this all the black night yeah he is that actually was black night yeah he is that actually was black night yeah he is that actually was it was tracked by quite a number of it was tracked by quite a number of it was tracked by quite a number of scientists and still is by some who put scientists and still is by some who put scientists and still is by some who put it up there well when America put up it up there well when America put up it up there well when America put up first first satellite and the Russians first first satellite and the Russians first first satellite and the Russians put up there's back then October 1957 put up there's back then October 1957 put up there's back then October 1957 I think Sputnik one went up and just a I think Sputnik one went up and just a I think Sputnik one went up and just a few months later America had hers in few months later America had hers in few months later America had hers in orbit and these were only a few hundred orbit and these were only a few hundred orbit and these were only a few hundred miles above the earth but then with miles above the earth but then with miles above the earth but then with excitement almost with unbelief excitement almost with unbelief excitement almost with unbelief millions of people who were scanning millions of people who were scanning millions of people who were scanning this heard a report that our French this heard a report that our French this heard a report that our French astronomers JAXA Valley of the parish astronomers JAXA Valley of the parish astronomers JAXA Valley of the parish observatory had seen another satellite observatory had seen another satellite observatory had seen another satellite three times and he got 11 data points in three times and he got 11 data points in three times and he got 11 data points in 45 seconds 45 seconds 45 seconds it was orbiting in Reverse actually at it was orbiting in Reverse actually at it was orbiting in Reverse actually at an altitude of about 22,000 miles above an altitude of about 22,000 miles above an altitude of about 22,000 miles above the earth very different from our few the earth very different from our few the earth very different from our few hundred miles and so the question was hundred miles and so the question was hundred miles and so the question was how did it get there how to get there how did it get there how to get there how did it get there how to get there and wordid come from yeah now if we go

and wordid come from yeah now if we go and wordid come from yeah now if we go back to the ancient writings we we back to the ancient writings we we back to the ancient writings we we noticed the Babylonians spoke off noticed the Babylonians spoke off noticed the Babylonians spoke off satellites orbiting the Earth satellites orbiting the Earth satellites orbiting the Earth I was spoke of spacecraft going to the I was spoke of spacecraft going to the I was spoke of spacecraft going to the moon and to the planets of the solar moon and to the planets of the solar moon and to the planets of the solar system so it appears there was a system so it appears there was a system so it appears there was a technology capable capable of doing it technology capable capable of doing it technology capable capable of doing it just a few thousand years ago George and just a few thousand years ago George and just a few thousand years ago George and maybe it is that's probably from that maybe it is that's probably from that maybe it is that's probably from that time but it hasn't come crashing down to time but it hasn't come crashing down to time but it hasn't come crashing down to earth like some of ours do strange yeah earth like some of ours do strange yeah earth like some of ours do strange yeah yeah and I assume we still know it's up yeah and I assume we still know it's up yeah and I assume we still know it's up there there there apparently yes the latest reports are apparently yes the latest reports are apparently yes the latest reports are that it's still there yeah what I had that it's still there yeah what I had that it's still there yeah what I had lightest was about a year ago name of lightest was about a year ago name of lightest was about a year ago name of our first satellite was the Explorer one our first satellite was the Explorer one our first satellite was the Explorer one a long time ago yeah let's go to a long time ago yeah let's go to a long time ago yeah let's go to Sebastopol California Marshall it's your Sebastopol California Marshall it's your Sebastopol California Marshall it's your turn on coast to coast I'm Marshall hi turn on coast to coast I'm Marshall hi turn on coast to coast I'm Marshall hi George how you doing good thank you for George how you doing good thank you for George how you doing good thank you for a little the show tonight it's really a little the show tonight it's really a little the show tonight it's really good I've been wanting to call in for good I've been wanting to call in for good I've been wanting to call in for the last couple weeks you've had a the last couple weeks you've had a the last couple weeks you've had a number of good shows tonight is number of good shows tonight is number of good shows tonight is exceptionally well and then one day talk exceptionally well and then one day talk exceptionally well and then one day talk about something you hit on earlier with about something you hit on earlier with about something you hit on earlier with a Yuet you asked the question of where's a Yuet you asked the question of where's a Yuet you asked the question of where's Noah's Ark and I run across some Noah's Ark and I run across some Noah's Ark and I run across some information in the last few years not not directly about Noah's Ark but not directly about Noah's Ark but actually looking for Noah's tomb and his actually looking for Noah's tomb and his actually looking for Noah's tomb and his sons tombs and things like that okay I sons tombs and things like that okay I sons tombs and things like that okay I ran across the work of dr. bill Shea and ran across the work of dr. bill Shea and ran across the work of dr. bill Shea and I was wondering if Jonathan had ever I was wondering if Jonathan had ever I was wondering if Jonathan had ever heard of him or heard of his work oh yes

heard of him or heard of his work oh yes heard of him or heard of his work oh yes on communicatively dr. bill Shea on a on communicatively dr. bill Shea on a on communicatively dr. bill Shea on a couple of occasions couple of occasions couple of occasions he's a very thorough investigator and he he's a very thorough investigator and he he's a very thorough investigator and he was of the opinion that it landed in the was of the opinion that it landed in the was of the opinion that it landed in the similar area to where we send our similar area to where we send our similar area to where we send our expeditions right there is the there's expeditions right there is the there's expeditions right there is the there's the site that was done researched by Ron the site that was done researched by Ron the site that was done researched by Ron Wyatt and there is Wyatt and there is Wyatt and there is the sites that is in actually Armenia the sites that is in actually Armenia the sites that is in actually Armenia which is the site that he proposes but which is the site that he proposes but which is the site that he proposes but what he found in his what the article what he found in his what the article what he found in his what the article that I ran across with him he was that I ran across with him he was that I ran across with him he was actually tracing back to the sites of actually tracing back to the sites of actually tracing back to the sites of the sons Jason Japheth ham Shem and ham the sons Jason Japheth ham Shem and ham the sons Jason Japheth ham Shem and ham Shem and Japheth and they they said they Shem and Japheth and they they said they Shem and Japheth and they they said they found theirs their tomb sites and I found theirs their tomb sites and I found theirs their tomb sites and I emailed him and I asked him for any emailed him and I asked him for any emailed him and I asked him for any other further research and he sent me he other further research and he sent me he other further research and he sent me he had done three expeditions and he sent had done three expeditions and he sent had done three expeditions and he sent me information about that and I've me information about that and I've me information about that and I've posted those online at on legendary posted those online at on legendary posted those online at on legendary times.com and their foreign forum times.com and their foreign forum times.com and their foreign forum section and so if anybody wants to read section and so if anybody wants to read section and so if anybody wants to read that they can go do that he also has a that they can go do that he also has a that they can go do that he also has a book that's available that that goes book that's available that that goes book that's available that that goes into more depth about that so I'm I was into more depth about that so I'm I was into more depth about that so I'm I was wondering if you'd read any of that no wondering if you'd read any of that no wondering if you'd read any of that no no I haven't but I'd be very interested no I haven't but I'd be very interested no I haven't but I'd be very interested in you emailing me if you go to my in you emailing me if you go to my in you emailing me if you go to my website and there's any some information website and there's any some information website and there's any some information that would be fascinating that would be fascinating that would be fascinating okay very good let's go to long okay very good let's go to long okay very good let's go to long Harlingen Texas Glen's with us east of

Harlingen Texas Glen's with us east of Harlingen Texas Glen's with us east of the Rockies hey Glen thanks for calling the Rockies hey Glen thanks for calling the Rockies hey Glen thanks for calling hey George Jonathan how you doing good I hey George Jonathan how you doing good I hey George Jonathan how you doing good I believe Oakland say I was wondering I believe Oakland say I was wondering I believe Oakland say I was wondering I have a question if you know where have a question if you know where have a question if you know where chickens come from all the old the old chickens come from all the old the old chickens come from all the old the old mystery of the chicken and the egg no no mystery of the chicken and the egg no no mystery of the chicken and the egg no no we're we're we all know pronghorn we're we're we all know pronghorn we're we're we all know pronghorn antelope come from the west of America antelope come from the west of America antelope come from the west of America I'm just wondering if you know where I'm just wondering if you know where I'm just wondering if you know where chickens come from all chickens or what chickens come from all chickens or what chickens come from all chickens or what part of the world Jemaine part of the world Jemaine part of the world Jemaine right yes I believe the first the first right yes I believe the first the first right yes I believe the first the first example of chickens is in eastern Turkey example of chickens is in eastern Turkey example of chickens is in eastern Turkey which is a lot of surprised because this which is a lot of surprised because this which is a lot of surprised because this is where they are blended the the is where they are blended the the is where they are blended the the surviving of animal life would of course surviving of animal life would of course surviving of animal life would of course behavior to the people that chickens behavior to the people that chickens behavior to the people that chickens come from the jungles of Southeast Asia come from the jungles of Southeast Asia come from the jungles of Southeast Asia where there still are they're still baby where there still are they're still baby where there still are they're still baby that's where they join where they are that's where they join where they are that's where they join where they are today and there are today and there are today and there are there are also fossils of them over there are also fossils of them over there are also fossils of them over there as well George I'd like to address there as well George I'd like to address there as well George I'd like to address you for a moment you for a moment you for a moment sure every time you've asked your guests sure every time you've asked your guests sure every time you've asked your guests how old man is how old the earth is he how old man is how old the earth is he how old man is how old the earth is he sidestepped and Alva skated and droned sidestepped and Alva skated and droned sidestepped and Alva skated and droned on about how the geological record is on about how the geological record is on about how the geological record is wrong so what he's saying is it's not wrong so what he's saying is it's not wrong so what he's saying is it's not old it's 6,000 years old no I don't

old it's 6,000 years old no I don't old it's 6,000 years old no I don't think you would say that but I don't think you would say that but I don't think you would say that but I don't want to put words in your mouth Jonathan want to put words in your mouth Jonathan want to put words in your mouth Jonathan [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah I mean are you a believer in the yeah I mean are you a believer in the yeah I mean are you a believer in the six no no you can't be millions of years six no no you can't be millions of years six no no you can't be millions of years theory is totally wrong because the theory is totally wrong because the theory is totally wrong because the evidence is the the stratum is right evidence is the the stratum is right evidence is the the stratum is right down rapidly not from a whole series of down rapidly not from a whole series of down rapidly not from a whole series of ages but from particularly key event ages but from particularly key event ages but from particularly key event catastrophic play so you do believe catastrophic play so you do believe catastrophic play so you do believe we're only six now I believe that the we're only six now I believe that the we're only six now I believe that the evidence does not show anything that we evidence does not show anything that we evidence does not show anything that we watch over so well I thought you said watch over so well I thought you said watch over so well I thought you said that mankind could be millions of years that mankind could be millions of years that mankind could be millions of years old that evolution is million hundreds old that evolution is million hundreds old that evolution is million hundreds of millions of years that's correct of millions of years that's correct of millions of years that's correct but man is an all that structure so he but man is an all that structure so he but man is an all that structure so he could not have a Rosa if the evidence could not have a Rosa if the evidence could not have a Rosa if the evidence goes for us goes for us goes for us he could not suddenly appear in the last he could not suddenly appear in the last he could not suddenly appear in the last formal strata what we're told by the formal strata what we're told by the formal strata what we're told by the evolution theory because he's found evolution theory because he's found evolution theory because he's found buried in all of these strata which I buried in all of these strata which I buried in all of these strata which I believe the evidence is an hour showing believe the evidence is an hour showing believe the evidence is an hour showing we'll all right down pretty much at the we'll all right down pretty much at the we'll all right down pretty much at the same time let's go to Victoria British same time let's go to Victoria British same time let's go to Victoria British Columbia on the international line hey Columbia on the international line hey Columbia on the international line hey David David David oh great thanks a lot sure I just wanted oh great thanks a lot sure I just wanted oh great thanks a lot sure I just wanted to ask the Jonathan if he had heard of to ask the Jonathan if he had heard of to ask the Jonathan if he had heard of this young woman there's a grad student this young woman there's a grad student this young woman there's a grad student at the University of Victoria it was all at the University of Victoria it was all at the University of Victoria it was all over the papers locally I don't know if over the papers locally I don't know if over the papers locally I don't know if it's got any play internationally your it's got any play internationally your it's got any play internationally your name's Genevieve on zinger anyway she name's Genevieve on zinger anyway she name's Genevieve on zinger anyway she has come up with 26 letters from cave

has come up with 26 letters from cave has come up with 26 letters from cave paintings that they are acquiescing that paintings that they are acquiescing that paintings that they are acquiescing that her research shows that there was a her research shows that there was a her research shows that there was a language that was in use for 20,000 language that was in use for 20,000 language that was in use for 20,000 years that she's pulled the language out years that she's pulled the language out years that she's pulled the language out of these of these of these cave paintings that people were all cave paintings that people were all cave paintings that people were all gasps Oh beautiful picture but they gasps Oh beautiful picture but they gasps Oh beautiful picture but they didn't notice all these little symbols didn't notice all these little symbols didn't notice all these little symbols around and she used computers to around and she used computers to around and she used computers to organize these symbols found throughout organize these symbols found throughout organize these symbols found throughout these cave paintings for 20,000 years these cave paintings for 20,000 years these cave paintings for 20,000 years and turns out it's a language well IIIi and turns out it's a language well IIIi and turns out it's a language well IIIi would go along with the fact that the would go along with the fact that the would go along with the fact that the the lettering is corresponds where there the lettering is corresponds where there the lettering is corresponds where there are other discoveries that Mady cave are other discoveries that Mady cave are other discoveries that Mady cave people have a sophisticated beginning people have a sophisticated beginning people have a sophisticated beginning and not a primitive one next up we'll and not a primitive one next up we'll and not a primitive one next up we'll take a couple more calls and then that take a couple more calls and then that take a couple more calls and then that is it DJ in Syracuse New York is it DJ in Syracuse New York is it DJ in Syracuse New York go ahead DJ yes a great honor to speak go ahead DJ yes a great honor to speak go ahead DJ yes a great honor to speak to you mr. gray I believe men like you to you mr. gray I believe men like you to you mr. gray I believe men like you and cream oh and Hancock are spot on and and cream oh and Hancock are spot on and and cream oh and Hancock are spot on and I encourage you I wish you'd address I encourage you I wish you'd address I encourage you I wish you'd address really the issue of the broader issue really the issue of the broader issue really the issue of the broader issue the battle between science and the the battle between science and the the battle between science and the sacred and that is essential and and sacred and that is essential and and sacred and that is essential and and Young was on to it and tolstoy great Young was on to it and tolstoy great Young was on to it and tolstoy great thinkers were on to it ever since the thinkers were on to it ever since the thinkers were on to it ever since the Enlightenment and that's what you Enlightenment and that's what you Enlightenment and that's what you represented sir and Heinrich Schliemann represented sir and Heinrich Schliemann represented sir and Heinrich Schliemann a great man a forgotten man in your a great man a forgotten man in your a great man a forgotten man in your field well there's no thank you for your

field well there's no thank you for your field well there's no thank you for your comment would I believe that science comment would I believe that science comment would I believe that science falsely so-called today indeed there's a falsely so-called today indeed there's a falsely so-called today indeed there's a science we're being taught because science we're being taught because science we're being taught because posing as true science but it's not posing as true science but it's not posing as true science but it's not science based upon evidence but upon science based upon evidence but upon science based upon evidence but upon philosophy next up we go to Bergenfield philosophy next up we go to Bergenfield philosophy next up we go to Bergenfield New Jersey Reagan is with us hey Reagan New Jersey Reagan is with us hey Reagan New Jersey Reagan is with us hey Reagan go ahead good morning gentlemen morning go ahead good morning gentlemen morning go ahead good morning gentlemen morning thank you for taking my call I have a thank you for taking my call I have a thank you for taking my call I have a quick question I was watching a jack van quick question I was watching a jack van quick question I was watching a jack van impe program it's a religious program on impe program it's a religious program on impe program it's a religious program on cable and he said that at the Bilderberg cable and he said that at the Bilderberg cable and he said that at the Bilderberg meeting in Virginia they said that they meeting in Virginia they said that they meeting in Virginia they said that they put a mandate out that they want put a mandate out that they want put a mandate out that they want everybody implanted with that microchip everybody implanted with that microchip everybody implanted with that microchip buys like 2014 or 2017 have you heard buys like 2014 or 2017 have you heard buys like 2014 or 2017 have you heard anything about that I have not no I anything about that I have not no I anything about that I have not no I haven't specifically okay well I want haven't specifically okay well I want haven't specifically okay well I want the jack van impe mentioned I don't know the jack van impe mentioned I don't know the jack van impe mentioned I don't know if you've heard of him jack van impe an if you've heard of him jack van impe an if you've heard of him jack van impe an MP yeah yeah yes that's MP yeah yeah yes that's MP yeah yeah yes that's that's my question thank you gentlemen that's my question thank you gentlemen that's my question thank you gentlemen okay sure thing okay sure thing okay sure thing next up we go to Atlanta Georgia next up we go to Atlanta Georgia next up we go to Atlanta Georgia Christian it's your turn go ahead George Christian it's your turn go ahead George Christian it's your turn go ahead George mr. gray morning I have a quick question mr. gray morning I have a quick question mr. gray morning I have a quick question about the biblical story about the about the biblical story about the about the biblical story about the confusion of the languages and I guess confusion of the languages and I guess confusion of the languages and I guess around Sumeria you were talking about a around Sumeria you were talking about a around Sumeria you were talking about a lot of different technology and stuff lot of different technology and stuff lot of different technology and stuff around the world outside you know seeing around the world outside you know seeing around the world outside you know seeing things in passing about you know like things in passing about you know like things in passing about you know like landing strips in South America and the landing strips in South America and the landing strips in South America and the transfer of you know Egyptian sciences

transfer of you know Egyptian sciences transfer of you know Egyptian sciences and architecture of mathematics and architecture of mathematics and architecture of mathematics throughout the world my question is on throughout the world my question is on throughout the world my question is on you know at that point in time do you you know at that point in time do you you know at that point in time do you think the language or something broader think the language or something broader think the language or something broader between people as far as like a lack of between people as far as like a lack of between people as far as like a lack of communication from you know one you know communication from you know one you know communication from you know one you know one part of the world to another may one part of the world to another may one part of the world to another may have the huge you know play or start and have the huge you know play or start and have the huge you know play or start and why a lot of this technology is it's why a lot of this technology is it's why a lot of this technology is it's kind of like gone from you know our our kind of like gone from you know our our kind of like gone from you know our our society or our civilization or it may society or our civilization or it may society or our civilization or it may have just been like a whole nother stage have just been like a whole nother stage have just been like a whole nother stage or age of civilization could you kind of or age of civilization could you kind of or age of civilization could you kind of explain it there's evidence of one explain it there's evidence of one explain it there's evidence of one language with one time spoken over the language with one time spoken over the language with one time spoken over the world and we have evidence of this from world and we have evidence of this from world and we have evidence of this from Australia from Yemen from Israel from Australia from Yemen from Israel from Australia from Yemen from Israel from the from the United States and from the from the United States and from the from the United States and from China and that there was an event which China and that there was an event which China and that there was an event which quickly dispersed the people who spoke quickly dispersed the people who spoke quickly dispersed the people who spoke this language apparently there were the this language apparently there were the this language apparently there were the the maps that were drawn in the early the maps that were drawn in the early the maps that were drawn in the early times were drawn by people who had a times were drawn by people who had a times were drawn by people who had a common language globally and mapped it common language globally and mapped it common language globally and mapped it achmet the whole world and then after achmet the whole world and then after achmet the whole world and then after that there was a confusion of languages that there was a confusion of languages that there was a confusion of languages you know what fascinates me Jonathan you know what fascinates me Jonathan you know what fascinates me Jonathan about the Bible for example in the book about the Bible for example in the book about the Bible for example in the book of Genesis the stories in there are all of Genesis the stories in there are all of Genesis the stories in there are all based on some kind of fact fashion is based on some kind of fact fashion is based on some kind of fact fashion is you know yes I can't disagree with you you know yes I can't disagree with you you know yes I can't disagree with you let's see if we can get one more in let's see if we can get one more in let's see if we can get one more in Scottie in Washington west of the Scottie in Washington west of the Scottie in Washington west of the Rockies just got about 30 seconds for Rockies just got about 30 seconds for Rockies just got about 30 seconds for Scottie go ahead just wondered if you

Scottie go ahead just wondered if you Scottie go ahead just wondered if you ever encountered any of those gold ever encountered any of those gold ever encountered any of those gold artifacts artifacts artifacts in South America that resemble jet in South America that resemble jet in South America that resemble jet aircraft not personally but I know they aircraft not personally but I know they aircraft not personally but I know they exist I have pictures of them and I've exist I have pictures of them and I've exist I have pictures of them and I've corresponded with somebody who has corresponded with somebody who has corresponded with somebody who has handled them and what else can they be handled them and what else can they be handled them and what else can they be Jonathan but replicas of aircraft have Jonathan but replicas of aircraft have Jonathan but replicas of aircraft have to be a via craft yes and some have been to be a via craft yes and some have been to be a via craft yes and some have been found in Egypt and other models as well found in Egypt and other models as well found in Egypt and other models as well the name of the books that been secrets the name of the books that been secrets the name of the books that been secrets the weapon of the globalists fear by the weapon of the globalists fear by the weapon of the globalists fear by Jonathan gray his website before us calm Jonathan gray his website before us calm Jonathan gray his website before us calm Jonathan thanks for being on the program Jonathan thanks for being on the program Jonathan thanks for being on the program appreciate it all right my friend you appreciate it all right my friend you appreciate it all right my friend you take care take care take care great archaeologists great researcher great archaeologists great researcher great archaeologists great researcher and just opens up our minds designee for and just opens up our minds designee for and just opens up our minds designee for Dan colotti Tom dan Houser Lisa Lyon Lex Dan colotti Tom dan Houser Lisa Lyon Lex Dan colotti Tom dan Houser Lisa Lyon Lex loan hood Sean Lada Soares Stephanie loan hood Sean Lada Soares Stephanie loan hood Sean Lada Soares Stephanie Smith Ross Mitchell George snappy and Smith Ross Mitchell George snappy and Smith Ross Mitchell George snappy and Punnett in art Bell I'm George Noory Punnett in art Bell I'm George Noory Punnett in art Bell I'm George Noory somewhere out there on coast to coast am somewhere out there on coast to coast am somewhere out there on coast to coast am we'll see you on our next edition until we'll see you on our next edition until we'll see you on our next edition until then be safe