015 Capricorn TV - Klaus Dona - Austria Interview & Crystal Skull Giants Bones Artifacts

Hi Claus, you're very welcome to Hi Claus, you're very welcome to Capricorn TV. Here we are in lovely Capricorn TV. Here we are in lovely Capricorn TV. Here we are in lovely Vienna. Very welcome to the show. Vienna. Very welcome to the show. Vienna. Very welcome to the show. Welcome to you James. Nice to have you Welcome to you James. Nice to have you Welcome to you James. Nice to have you here in Vim. Wow. V as they say locally. here in Vim. Wow. V as they say locally. here in Vim. Wow. V as they say locally. You know Claus, it's a pleasure to be You know Claus, it's a pleasure to be You know Claus, it's a pleasure to be here. Uh you've been on Capricorn radio here. Uh you've been on Capricorn radio here. Uh you've been on Capricorn radio a few times. Uh we're doing a Capricorn a few times. Uh we're doing a Capricorn a few times. Uh we're doing a Capricorn TV interview today. We're going to talk TV interview today. We're going to talk TV interview today. We're going to talk about some of the artifacts on the about some of the artifacts on the about some of the artifacts on the table. We're going to get into some of table. We're going to get into some of table. We're going to get into some of your background um and and what you do your background um and and what you do your background um and and what you do basically. And uh I've been intrigued to basically. And uh I've been intrigued to basically. And uh I've been intrigued to come here to meet you, Claus. Um I never come here to meet you, Claus. Um I never come here to meet you, Claus. Um I never thought Austria would be so beautiful. thought Austria would be so beautiful. thought Austria would be so beautiful. Um this place is full of history, Claus. Um this place is full of history, Claus. Um this place is full of history, Claus. It's so you know from the Romans It's so you know from the Romans It's so you know from the Romans onwards. Like I mean everybody has come onwards. Like I mean everybody has come onwards. Like I mean everybody has come through the Danube Pier to Austria and through the Danube Pier to Austria and through the Danube Pier to Austria and Vienna. And um I guess you've been a Vienna. And um I guess you've been a Vienna. And um I guess you've been a passionate guy for history for a long passionate guy for history for a long passionate guy for history for a long time. Claus, let us know who you are, time. Claus, let us know who you are, time. Claus, let us know who you are, where you come from in terms of history where you come from in terms of history where you come from in terms of history and and your your cultural exhibitions and and your your cultural exhibitions and and your your cultural exhibitions that you've been putting on around the that you've been putting on around the that you've been putting on around the world. Build a picture for the audience. world. Build a picture for the audience. world. Build a picture for the audience. Uh my name is K Dona. Uh I did uh many Uh my name is K Dona. Uh I did uh many Uh my name is K Dona. Uh I did uh many many uh big cultural exhibitions from many uh big cultural exhibitions from many uh big cultural exhibitions from Austria to Japan, also one to Korea and Austria to Japan, also one to Korea and Austria to Japan, also one to Korea and uh several Japanese exhibitions in uh several Japanese exhibitions in uh several Japanese exhibitions in Vienna. And uh on my long trips, I had a Vienna. And uh on my long trips, I had a Vienna. And uh on my long trips, I had a lot of time to read on the airplanes, lot of time to read on the airplanes, lot of time to read on the airplanes, airports, and even in the hotel rooms.

airports, and even in the hotel rooms. airports, and even in the hotel rooms. Sure. And I read a lot of books about uh Sure. And I read a lot of books about uh Sure. And I read a lot of books about uh unexplainable things and uh out of place unexplainable things and uh out of place unexplainable things and uh out of place artifacts. And one day I had the idea, I artifacts. And one day I had the idea, I artifacts. And one day I had the idea, I was a big skeptic and still I'm a was a big skeptic and still I'm a was a big skeptic and still I'm a skeptica and you must be skeptical. Uh I skeptica and you must be skeptical. Uh I skeptica and you must be skeptical. Uh I did uh I had the idea why not trying to did uh I had the idea why not trying to did uh I had the idea why not trying to get some of these unexplainable get some of these unexplainable get some of these unexplainable artifacts to Vienna and display them on artifacts to Vienna and display them on artifacts to Vienna and display them on a on an exhibition. Then I started with a on an exhibition. Then I started with a on an exhibition. Then I started with my friend Reinhardt Habbeek my friend Reinhardt Habbeek my friend Reinhardt Habbeek 1997. We did research and uh we could 1997. We did research and uh we could 1997. We did research and uh we could find u around 350 artifacts which are find u around 350 artifacts which are find u around 350 artifacts which are displayed or in museums because we just displayed or in museums because we just displayed or in museums because we just wanted to have uh things artifacts from wanted to have uh things artifacts from wanted to have uh things artifacts from museums. And uh a friend of mine, a museums. And uh a friend of mine, a museums. And uh a friend of mine, a museum director, he wrote lending museum director, he wrote lending museum director, he wrote lending requests to all these museums worldwide. requests to all these museums worldwide. requests to all these museums worldwide. And out of uh And out of uh And out of uh 356 requests, we got only one agreement 356 requests, we got only one agreement 356 requests, we got only one agreement to be able to to to get this artifact to be able to to to get this artifact to be able to to to get this artifact for the exhibition. So we had only left for the exhibition. So we had only left for the exhibition. So we had only left one and a half years until the scheduled one and a half years until the scheduled one and a half years until the scheduled opening of the exhibition. Then we opening of the exhibition. Then we opening of the exhibition. Then we started to do our research by ourself.

started to do our research by ourself. started to do our research by ourself. We traveled to South America, to Mexico, We traveled to South America, to Mexico, We traveled to South America, to Mexico, to North America, in Europe and finally to North America, in Europe and finally to North America, in Europe and finally in one and a half year we could find in one and a half year we could find in one and a half year we could find 470 very very strange artifacts we which 470 very very strange artifacts we which 470 very very strange artifacts we which we showed to the public in 2001 in the we showed to the public in 2001 in the we showed to the public in 2001 in the exhibition Unsolved Mysteries in Vienna. exhibition Unsolved Mysteries in Vienna. exhibition Unsolved Mysteries in Vienna. Wow. And since that while uh researching Wow. And since that while uh researching Wow. And since that while uh researching I had so many very very st sometimes I had so many very very st sometimes I had so many very very st sometimes strange sometimes mysterious um strange sometimes mysterious um strange sometimes mysterious um experiences that I got more and more experiences that I got more and more experiences that I got more and more into these fields and since that since into these fields and since that since into these fields and since that since 2001 I found many many more interesting 2001 I found many many more interesting 2001 I found many many more interesting places interesting artifacts worldwide places interesting artifacts worldwide places interesting artifacts worldwide and the search still is going on and uh and the search still is going on and uh and the search still is going on and uh the more we find the more answers uh the the more we find the more answers uh the the more we find the more answers uh the more questions uh are rising up about more questions uh are rising up about more questions uh are rising up about our history. Do you find more research our history. Do you find more research our history. Do you find more research that you do as more time goes on the that you do as more time goes on the that you do as more time goes on the more people come forward and they they more people come forward and they they more people come forward and they they bring attention to you different bring attention to you different bring attention to you different artifacts and different information that artifacts and different information that artifacts and different information that you wouldn't be aware of the plot you wouldn't be aware of the plot you wouldn't be aware of the plot thickens as they say. Yes.

thickens as they say. Yes. thickens as they say. Yes. Um okay so you've gone from Japan, Um okay so you've gone from Japan, Um okay so you've gone from Japan, Ecuador, um uh Bolivia, you've Ecuador, um uh Bolivia, you've Ecuador, um uh Bolivia, you've concentrated in these areas. Um we're concentrated in these areas. Um we're concentrated in these areas. Um we're going to get into some of that going to get into some of that going to get into some of that information because this is important. information because this is important. information because this is important. There's uh many mysteries there that um There's uh many mysteries there that um There's uh many mysteries there that um I wanted to talk about you have also a I wanted to talk about you have also a I wanted to talk about you have also a new technology that you use. This is new technology that you use. This is new technology that you use. This is very interesting. We we've pro spoke a very interesting. We we've pro spoke a very interesting. We we've pro spoke a few times about this but uh for the few times about this but uh for the few times about this but uh for the listeners I know there's some of listeners I know there's some of listeners I know there's some of information you're not going to be able information you're not going to be able information you're not going to be able to give away but uh industrial secrets to give away but uh industrial secrets to give away but uh industrial secrets as they say but uh but tell us a little as they say but uh but tell us a little as they say but uh but tell us a little bit what the technology can do the bit what the technology can do the bit what the technology can do the benefits of archaeology really that's benefits of archaeology really that's benefits of archaeology really that's what I'm trying to enlighten to the what I'm trying to enlighten to the what I'm trying to enlighten to the public. Uh a friend of mine invented uh public. Uh a friend of mine invented uh public. Uh a friend of mine invented uh several years ago a new technology which several years ago a new technology which several years ago a new technology which makes him able to scan uh any place makes him able to scan uh any place makes him able to scan uh any place worldwide for archaeological sites or worldwide for archaeological sites or worldwide for archaeological sites or archaeological places and we found archaeological places and we found archaeological places and we found already uh many of them and I hope that already uh many of them and I hope that already uh many of them and I hope that we can be accepted by the official we can be accepted by the official we can be accepted by the official science because I'm quite sure we could science because I'm quite sure we could science because I'm quite sure we could help the international help the international help the international archaeologists a lot to find really archaeologists a lot to find really archaeologists a lot to find really unknown cities, unknown places and unknown cities, unknown places and unknown cities, unknown places and unknown archaeological sites.

unknown archaeological sites. unknown archaeological sites. Of course, places like Iraq and Egypt Of course, places like Iraq and Egypt Of course, places like Iraq and Egypt are covered in desert sands and they are covered in desert sands and they are covered in desert sands and they weren't at one point. They they were weren't at one point. They they were weren't at one point. They they were vibrant cities uh all across the Tigers, vibrant cities uh all across the Tigers, vibrant cities uh all across the Tigers, Euphrates and the Nile. Um of course Euphrates and the Nile. Um of course Euphrates and the Nile. Um of course places are buried in the sand. The places are buried in the sand. The places are buried in the sand. The benefit of this technology will be benefit of this technology will be benefit of this technology will be perfect really for we have already perfect really for we have already perfect really for we have already several very interesting looking sites several very interesting looking sites several very interesting looking sites in Egypt also in Libya but also in in Egypt also in Libya but also in in Egypt also in Libya but also in several other countries. I think uh several other countries. I think uh several other countries. I think uh Gilgamesh body of Gilgamesh in Egypt or Gilgamesh body of Gilgamesh in Egypt or Gilgamesh body of Gilgamesh in Egypt or in Iraq they were searching with a new in Iraq they were searching with a new in Iraq they were searching with a new technology there because there's some technology there because there's some technology there because there's some sort of iron compound um that they use sort of iron compound um that they use sort of iron compound um that they use as well. So there's new technologies are as well. So there's new technologies are as well. So there's new technologies are abound. abound. abound. Um, okay. So, Steven and Evan Strong, you've also So, Steven and Evan Strong, you've also helped use this. I have to mention these helped use this. I have to mention these helped use this. I have to mention these guys because we this is how we got in guys because we this is how we got in guys because we this is how we got in contact. These guys have been using this contact. These guys have been using this contact. These guys have been using this technology too and you've brought some technology too and you've brought some technology too and you've brought some interesting sites and there is some hard interesting sites and there is some hard interesting sites and there is some hard stuff there like glyphs and rock art, stuff there like glyphs and rock art, stuff there like glyphs and rock art, but there is also stuff that you've used but there is also stuff that you've used but there is also stuff that you've used with the technology and uh the guys with the technology and uh the guys with the technology and uh the guys would have been clueless, never heard would have been clueless, never heard would have been clueless, never heard about this at all um until this about this at all um until this about this at all um until this technology has been used for that. Yes.

technology has been used for that. Yes. technology has been used for that. Yes. They contacted me because they saw an They contacted me because they saw an They contacted me because they saw an interview uh which I did uh in Visok at interview uh which I did uh in Visok at interview uh which I did uh in Visok at the site of the Bosnian pyramids and we the site of the Bosnian pyramids and we the site of the Bosnian pyramids and we did a scan over the so-called sun did a scan over the so-called sun did a scan over the so-called sun pyramid in Visok and we could show pyramid in Visok and we could show pyramid in Visok and we could show professor Samos manag uh that there are professor Samos manag uh that there are professor Samos manag uh that there are many tunnel inside this for the official many tunnel inside this for the official many tunnel inside this for the official science still it's just a mountain for science still it's just a mountain for science still it's just a mountain for us at least there are tunnel systems us at least there are tunnel systems us at least there are tunnel systems inside There is also in the center of inside There is also in the center of inside There is also in the center of this pyramid there is also one room we this pyramid there is also one room we this pyramid there is also one room we could show uh to professor Samos Monage could show uh to professor Samos Monage could show uh to professor Samos Monage and we also could detect that there are and we also could detect that there are and we also could detect that there are bones and precious metals inside. So I bones and precious metals inside. So I bones and precious metals inside. So I think in this case it should be a grave think in this case it should be a grave think in this case it should be a grave uh or a tomb inside this sun pyramid. in uh or a tomb inside this sun pyramid. in uh or a tomb inside this sun pyramid. in the future. I asked my friend already to the future. I asked my friend already to the future. I asked my friend already to do scan over the other pyramids in do scan over the other pyramids in do scan over the other pyramids in Bisokco and I think that there are even Bisokco and I think that there are even Bisokco and I think that there are even uh connections between those uh pyramids uh connections between those uh pyramids uh connections between those uh pyramids and if we can help professor Samos manag and if we can help professor Samos manag and if we can help professor Samos manag we will do so. So when Steven and Evan we will do so. So when Steven and Evan we will do so. So when Steven and Evan Strong saw my interview and that we were Strong saw my interview and that we were Strong saw my interview and that we were using a new technology, they contacted using a new technology, they contacted using a new technology, they contacted me and they asked me if we could do them me and they asked me if we could do them me and they asked me if we could do them a favor and check the area around the a favor and check the area around the a favor and check the area around the hieroglyphs in uh hieroglyphs in uh hieroglyphs in uh Australia, which we did. And we we sent Australia, which we did. And we we sent Australia, which we did. And we we sent them a scan showing them that far behind

them a scan showing them that far behind them a scan showing them that far behind the hieroglyphs there is a tunnel going the hieroglyphs there is a tunnel going the hieroglyphs there is a tunnel going into the direction of the hieroglyphs into the direction of the hieroglyphs into the direction of the hieroglyphs and close before the hieroglyphs there and close before the hieroglyphs there and close before the hieroglyphs there is a room and also in this room we is a room and also in this room we is a room and also in this room we detected bones and brcious matter. So detected bones and brcious matter. So detected bones and brcious matter. So that when when I sent them the scan, that when when I sent them the scan, that when when I sent them the scan, they went there the following weekend they went there the following weekend they went there the following weekend and they found a man-made uh wall and and they found a man-made uh wall and and they found a man-made uh wall and also an entrance into a tunnel. And also an entrance into a tunnel. And also an entrance into a tunnel. And definitely on the photos they sent me, definitely on the photos they sent me, definitely on the photos they sent me, you can see that this is a man-made you can see that this is a man-made you can see that this is a man-made tunnel. But after a few meters, it's tunnel. But after a few meters, it's tunnel. But after a few meters, it's blocked by man-made uh stone blocks. And blocked by man-made uh stone blocks. And blocked by man-made uh stone blocks. And I think that might be uh a former uh I think that might be uh a former uh I think that might be uh a former uh grave robber robbery trap which was grave robber robbery trap which was grave robber robbery trap which was activated because in activated because in activated because in 1976 in this especially in this area 1976 in this especially in this area 1976 in this especially in this area there was a very heavy earthquake. And I there was a very heavy earthquake. And I there was a very heavy earthquake. And I think uh this was the reason why the think uh this was the reason why the think uh this was the reason why the blocks are now blocking the entrance to blocks are now blocking the entrance to blocks are now blocking the entrance to the grave. But uh hopefully they will the grave. But uh hopefully they will the grave. But uh hopefully they will get the official author authorization to get the official author authorization to get the official author authorization to open it and then they could prove that open it and then they could prove that open it and then they could prove that the Egyptian hieroglyphs are definitely the Egyptian hieroglyphs are definitely the Egyptian hieroglyphs are definitely original and not a hoax uh from end of original and not a hoax uh from end of original and not a hoax uh from end of 19th century. Sure. You're describing a 19th century. Sure. You're describing a 19th century. Sure. You're describing a very powerful technique when you can very powerful technique when you can very powerful technique when you can scan with a high technology and then scan with a high technology and then scan with a high technology and then send somebody to look and then they come send somebody to look and then they come send somebody to look and then they come come up with some answers or the come up with some answers or the come up with some answers or the evidence of what you're showing them.

evidence of what you're showing them. evidence of what you're showing them. This is a powerful tool. That's a very This is a powerful tool. That's a very This is a powerful tool. That's a very powerful tool. And we showed Steven and powerful tool. And we showed Steven and powerful tool. And we showed Steven and Evan also an underground destroyed city Evan also an underground destroyed city Evan also an underground destroyed city which is uh approximately 5 to 6 m under which is uh approximately 5 to 6 m under which is uh approximately 5 to 6 m under the ground under the survey. the ground under the survey. the ground under the survey. So wow a big city. Interesting times So wow a big city. Interesting times So wow a big city. Interesting times too. It's very interesting and I hope too. It's very interesting and I hope too. It's very interesting and I hope that they will be successful in that they will be successful in that they will be successful in excavating some of these places. excavating some of these places. excavating some of these places. So, Claus, while we're talking on So, Claus, while we're talking on So, Claus, while we're talking on technology, and I'll get to the technology, and I'll get to the technology, and I'll get to the artifacts, while we're talking on artifacts, while we're talking on artifacts, while we're talking on technology, let's talk some dating technology, let's talk some dating technology, let's talk some dating techniques because I got no problem with techniques because I got no problem with techniques because I got no problem with carbon dating. However, you usually find carbon dating. However, you usually find carbon dating. However, you usually find the carbon dating is being abused or the carbon dating is being abused or the carbon dating is being abused or what what I'm saying is they'll what what I'm saying is they'll what what I'm saying is they'll sometimes dig up a vessel and they'll sometimes dig up a vessel and they'll sometimes dig up a vessel and they'll look for carbon dating of material, but look for carbon dating of material, but look for carbon dating of material, but that doesn't mean that the artifact that doesn't mean that the artifact that doesn't mean that the artifact where the carbon dating was found was where the carbon dating was found was where the carbon dating was found was carved at the time it was dated to have carved at the time it was dated to have carved at the time it was dated to have been buried. It could have been in been buried. It could have been in been buried. It could have been in existence for especially with stone existence for especially with stone existence for especially with stone stuff. So the carbon dating is kind of stuff. So the carbon dating is kind of stuff. So the carbon dating is kind of used for dating techniques. Would you used for dating techniques. Would you used for dating techniques. Would you agree with that? Uh yeah, this is a big agree with that? Uh yeah, this is a big agree with that? Uh yeah, this is a big problem in age dating. For example, one problem in age dating. For example, one problem in age dating. For example, one one very good example for me are the one very good example for me are the one very good example for me are the Nuriagas, the stone towers in Sardinia.

Nuriagas, the stone towers in Sardinia. Nuriagas, the stone towers in Sardinia. There are over 6,000 huge stone towers. There are over 6,000 huge stone towers. There are over 6,000 huge stone towers. And uh the age dating by the official And uh the age dating by the official And uh the age dating by the official archaeologists is approximately archaeologists is approximately archaeologists is approximately 2,2,400 years. But uh they even found 2,2,400 years. But uh they even found 2,2,400 years. But uh they even found one so-called giant tomb a few meters one so-called giant tomb a few meters one so-called giant tomb a few meters under the sea level. That means for me under the sea level. That means for me under the sea level. That means for me the age dating of the Sardinian Nuriagas the age dating of the Sardinian Nuriagas the age dating of the Sardinian Nuriagas are completely wrong. Maybe they found are completely wrong. Maybe they found are completely wrong. Maybe they found one day some broken ceramics inside of one day some broken ceramics inside of one day some broken ceramics inside of one of these towers. They did an age one of these towers. They did an age one of these towers. They did an age dating. They found out that this uh dating. They found out that this uh dating. They found out that this uh material goes back about material goes back about material goes back about 2,2,400 years. And then for them, the 2,2,400 years. And then for them, the 2,2,400 years. And then for them, the new riarches were built approximately new riarches were built approximately new riarches were built approximately the same time. I don't agree with this the same time. I don't agree with this the same time. I don't agree with this because they say that they label them as because they say that they label them as because they say that they label them as fortresses uh if I'm not mistaken and fortresses uh if I'm not mistaken and fortresses uh if I'm not mistaken and and they've got one door in and out and they've got one door in and out and they've got one door in and out close. They get only one door and no close. They get only one door and no close. They get only one door and no windows. And uh for me it would be very windows. And uh for me it would be very windows. And uh for me it would be very difficult to be a protection tower. If difficult to be a protection tower. If difficult to be a protection tower. If you have only one door and no windows, you have only one door and no windows, you have only one door and no windows, you cannot really self-defense yourself you cannot really self-defense yourself you cannot really self-defense yourself if you are inside. Mhm. Yeah, it doesn't if you are inside. Mhm. Yeah, it doesn't if you are inside. Mhm. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And there's astronomy. You make sense. And there's astronomy. You make sense. And there's astronomy. You know, I love archive astronomy, but know, I love archive astronomy, but know, I love archive astronomy, but there's a lot. There is a private there's a lot. There is a private there's a lot. There is a private researcher team in Sardinia and they researcher team in Sardinia and they researcher team in Sardinia and they found out that this goes uh back at found out that this goes uh back at found out that this goes uh back at least 10,000 years. M of course uh I'm least 10,000 years. M of course uh I'm least 10,000 years. M of course uh I'm going to talk about a little bit about going to talk about a little bit about going to talk about a little bit about giants but I think Sardinia has a giants but I think Sardinia has a giants but I think Sardinia has a history of maybe giants being living

history of maybe giants being living history of maybe giants being living there. I think there was some extremely there. I think there was some extremely there. I think there was some extremely nice teeth found. And nice teeth found. And nice teeth found. And that's what why I was very much that's what why I was very much that's what why I was very much interested in Sardinia most of all interested in Sardinia most of all interested in Sardinia most of all because there are uh many many so-called because there are uh many many so-called because there are uh many many so-called giant domes also made with huge stone giant domes also made with huge stone giant domes also made with huge stone blocks which is quite uh difficult even blocks which is quite uh difficult even blocks which is quite uh difficult even in our days to do something like this in our days to do something like this in our days to do something like this and as I mentioned before they found and as I mentioned before they found and as I mentioned before they found even one giant dump uh under the sea even one giant dump uh under the sea even one giant dump uh under the sea level that means uh must be very very level that means uh must be very very level that means uh must be very very old and uh I I had a meeting with some old and uh I I had a meeting with some old and uh I I had a meeting with some very old gentlemen in a small village uh very old gentlemen in a small village uh very old gentlemen in a small village uh and they told me that uh before the and they told me that uh before the and they told me that uh before the second world war uh the military opened second world war uh the military opened second world war uh the military opened some of these giant dumps and they took some of these giant dumps and they took some of these giant dumps and they took away uh human uh skeletons with a size away uh human uh skeletons with a size away uh human uh skeletons with a size of approximately 3 m. I think a lot of of approximately 3 m. I think a lot of of approximately 3 m. I think a lot of academic scientists in Sardinia have academic scientists in Sardinia have academic scientists in Sardinia have spoken out saying that bones have been spoken out saying that bones have been spoken out saying that bones have been disappearing and they they the giant disappearing and they they the giant disappearing and they they the giant teeth as they're called. The one guy had teeth as they're called. The one guy had teeth as they're called. The one guy had gone to a dentist and the dentist had gone to a dentist and the dentist had gone to a dentist and the dentist had said this is three times the size of said this is three times the size of said this is three times the size of normal teeth. Yeah. And it went into the normal teeth. Yeah. And it went into the normal teeth. Yeah. And it went into the museum and disappeared after that. And museum and disappeared after that. And museum and disappeared after that. And you know it's crazy isn't it? That's you know it's crazy isn't it? That's you know it's crazy isn't it? That's line. There are a lot of stories like line. There are a lot of stories like line. There are a lot of stories like this, especially also in the United this, especially also in the United this, especially also in the United States where you have hundreds of States where you have hundreds of States where you have hundreds of newspaper reports from 1870 already newspaper reports from 1870 already newspaper reports from 1870 already beginning up to 1920, beginning up to 1920, beginning up to 1920, 1925. And all those reports are writing 1925. And all those reports are writing 1925. And all those reports are writing exactly who was the archaeologist who

exactly who was the archaeologist who exactly who was the archaeologist who who was doing the excavation. Uh what who was doing the excavation. Uh what who was doing the excavation. Uh what where was the place? What did they find? where was the place? What did they find? where was the place? What did they find? And uh all of these newspapers were And uh all of these newspapers were And uh all of these newspapers were writing that they took out some writing that they took out some writing that they took out some oversized human skeletons from 2.6 m oversized human skeletons from 2.6 m oversized human skeletons from 2.6 m even more than 3 m. Wow. And even there even more than 3 m. Wow. And even there even more than 3 m. Wow. And even there were some reports that some of these were some reports that some of these were some reports that some of these skulls had double row teeth. Double row. skulls had double row teeth. Double row. skulls had double row teeth. Double row. So and most of these reports are ending So and most of these reports are ending So and most of these reports are ending uh the skeletons were brought to the uh the skeletons were brought to the uh the skeletons were brought to the Smithsonian Institution. Wow. But they Smithsonian Institution. Wow. But they Smithsonian Institution. Wow. But they never uh they they their information is never uh they they their information is never uh they they their information is that they never got some skeletons like that they never got some skeletons like that they never got some skeletons like this. I somehow think of the Indiana this. I somehow think of the Indiana this. I somehow think of the Indiana Jones movie with the big warehouse and Jones movie with the big warehouse and Jones movie with the big warehouse and the rows of rows of artifacts and boxes. the rows of rows of artifacts and boxes. the rows of rows of artifacts and boxes. Could be a reality. Could be. Could be Could be a reality. Could be. Could be Could be a reality. Could be. Could be reality. Yes. Of course, you you're reality. Yes. Of course, you you're reality. Yes. Of course, you you're you're quite admittedly, you know, when you're quite admittedly, you know, when you're quite admittedly, you know, when you find artifacts uh that you either you find artifacts uh that you either you find artifacts uh that you either think are fake or they're not think are fake or they're not think are fake or they're not consistent, you don't mind speaking out. consistent, you don't mind speaking out. consistent, you don't mind speaking out. You're not necessarily looking for the You're not necessarily looking for the You're not necessarily looking for the strange and the wonderful. you're you're strange and the wonderful. you're you're strange and the wonderful. you're you're quite spoken about when you find quite spoken about when you find quite spoken about when you find something that doesn't add up. And something that doesn't add up. And something that doesn't add up. And that's what I like about you, Claus. You that's what I like about you, Claus. You that's what I like about you, Claus. You you find artifacts that are interesting you find artifacts that are interesting you find artifacts that are interesting and then you also find artifacts that and then you also find artifacts that and then you also find artifacts that are also, you are also, you are also, you know, problematic. Um well, there are know, problematic. Um well, there are know, problematic. Um well, there are several of them. Uh for example, in several of them. Uh for example, in several of them. Uh for example, in United States, uh there is one United States, uh there is one United States, uh there is one collection. Uh I I got the book from a collection. Uh I I got the book from a collection. Uh I I got the book from a friend of mine several years ago. And friend of mine several years ago. And friend of mine several years ago. And when I saw who was writing this book, he when I saw who was writing this book, he when I saw who was writing this book, he was a very famous uh

was a very famous uh was a very famous uh anthropologist uh high decorated. He was anthropologist uh high decorated. He was anthropologist uh high decorated. He was working for the National Geographic and working for the National Geographic and working for the National Geographic and Smithsonian Institution and he was Smithsonian Institution and he was Smithsonian Institution and he was showing some pictures of very very showing some pictures of very very showing some pictures of very very incredible interesting uh artifacts and incredible interesting uh artifacts and incredible interesting uh artifacts and human or humanlike skeletons. So when I human or humanlike skeletons. So when I human or humanlike skeletons. So when I saw this book, I tried to find out saw this book, I tried to find out saw this book, I tried to find out uh to to get in contact with him and uh to to get in contact with him and uh to to get in contact with him and finally it was not easy but finally I finally it was not easy but finally I finally it was not easy but finally I could uh get in contact with his wife could uh get in contact with his wife could uh get in contact with his wife because he passed away already and uh we because he passed away already and uh we because he passed away already and uh we were invited to her house and she showed were invited to her house and she showed were invited to her house and she showed me some of the originals and she told me me some of the originals and she told me me some of the originals and she told me that her husband found them etc. These that her husband found them etc. These that her husband found them etc. These are all originals. And uh later on I are all originals. And uh later on I are all originals. And uh later on I took out my special took out my special took out my special um loop, my special optical uh glasses um loop, my special optical uh glasses um loop, my special optical uh glasses which I'm I was using uh on the which I'm I was using uh on the which I'm I was using uh on the checkings on the paintings after a long checkings on the paintings after a long checkings on the paintings after a long transport by airplane if there is a new transport by airplane if there is a new transport by airplane if there is a new scratch or something like this. And I scratch or something like this. And I scratch or something like this. And I saw on two of these artifacts a kind of saw on two of these artifacts a kind of saw on two of these artifacts a kind of textile structure, but you only could textile structure, but you only could textile structure, but you only could see it with a very special glasses. And see it with a very special glasses. And see it with a very special glasses. And uh after that I asked the lady again uh uh after that I asked the lady again uh uh after that I asked the lady again uh these are all originals. And she said these are all originals. And she said these are all originals. And she said yes. And then I asked her to put on my yes. And then I asked her to put on my yes. And then I asked her to put on my glasses and check the textile structure.

glasses and check the textile structure. glasses and check the textile structure. And I told her nature is not doing like And I told her nature is not doing like And I told her nature is not doing like this. And finally she she said yes. Uh this. And finally she she said yes. Uh this. And finally she she said yes. Uh uh they are original because my husband uh they are original because my husband uh they are original because my husband made them. And if I wouldn't have used made them. And if I wouldn't have used made them. And if I wouldn't have used my special glasses, yeah, I would my special glasses, yeah, I would my special glasses, yeah, I would have I would have 100% believe that have I would have 100% believe that have I would have 100% believe that these are original artifacts. So you these are original artifacts. So you these are original artifacts. So you have to be very very careful in search have to be very very careful in search have to be very very careful in search of these artifacts because uh they are of these artifacts because uh they are of these artifacts because uh they are very very good fakes on the market or in very very good fakes on the market or in very very good fakes on the market or in private collections. And my problem is private collections. And my problem is private collections. And my problem is that the most important pieces are in that the most important pieces are in that the most important pieces are in private collections because they are not private collections because they are not private collections because they are not uh accepted by the official science. So uh accepted by the official science. So uh accepted by the official science. So that means they are in private uh uh that means they are in private uh uh that means they are in private uh uh collections and they were found by collections and they were found by collections and they were found by private researchers. So that's that's private researchers. So that's that's private researchers. So that's that's the big problem that the official the big problem that the official the big problem that the official science does not want to check really science does not want to check really science does not want to check really those pieces and prove that these are those pieces and prove that these are those pieces and prove that these are not fakes. M I've been looking into the not fakes. M I've been looking into the not fakes. M I've been looking into the crystal lenses before and I know you're crystal lenses before and I know you're crystal lenses before and I know you're familiar with the Viking lenses and I familiar with the Viking lenses and I familiar with the Viking lenses and I think I don't necessarily that they're think I don't necessarily that they're think I don't necessarily that they're fake but people they might have been fake but people they might have been fake but people they might have been robbed from another civilization or robbed from another civilization or robbed from another civilization or there's a lot of problems with the there's a lot of problems with the there's a lot of problems with the Viking crystal lenses. Yes. Yes. It's a Viking crystal lenses. Yes. Yes. It's a Viking crystal lenses. Yes. Yes. It's a good example as well I think. So um just good example as well I think. So um just good example as well I think. So um just on structures I know you're good friends on structures I know you're good friends on structures I know you're good friends with Michael Tenders. You've been down with Michael Tenders. You've been down with Michael Tenders. You've been down in South Africa. Tell us about the in South Africa. Tell us about the in South Africa. Tell us about the structures down there. I find these structures down there. I find these structures down there. I find these incredibly interesting. You can look at incredibly interesting. You can look at incredibly interesting. You can look at a lot of them on Google Earth as well.

a lot of them on Google Earth as well. a lot of them on Google Earth as well. Um I know yourself and Michael have been Um I know yourself and Michael have been Um I know yourself and Michael have been down investigating. There's some down investigating. There's some down investigating. There's some incredibly strange anomalies with these incredibly strange anomalies with these incredibly strange anomalies with these places down there. I was three times in places down there. I was three times in places down there. I was three times in South Africa and I visited together with South Africa and I visited together with South Africa and I visited together with Michael Telinger many of those places. Michael Telinger many of those places. Michael Telinger many of those places. Uh there are hundred thousands of huge Uh there are hundred thousands of huge Uh there are hundred thousands of huge stone circles. Uh for the official stone circles. Uh for the official stone circles. Uh for the official archaeologists these are archaeologists these are archaeologists these are cowtogages but many of those uh circles cowtogages but many of those uh circles cowtogages but many of those uh circles or or stone uh circles are closed. So I or or stone uh circles are closed. So I or or stone uh circles are closed. So I would just wonder how can cows go into a would just wonder how can cows go into a would just wonder how can cows go into a stone circle uh storage if there's no stone circle uh storage if there's no stone circle uh storage if there's no door. Uh and one other thing is that door. Uh and one other thing is that door. Uh and one other thing is that most of these stone circles you only can most of these stone circles you only can most of these stone circles you only can see a little bit over the surface. That see a little bit over the surface. That see a little bit over the surface. That means for me they must go down at least means for me they must go down at least means for me they must go down at least one one and a half or even 2 m under the one one and a half or even 2 m under the one one and a half or even 2 m under the soil under the ground. and why the soil under the ground. and why the soil under the ground. and why the official archaeologists of South Africa official archaeologists of South Africa official archaeologists of South Africa are not doing some excavations. Maybe are not doing some excavations. Maybe are not doing some excavations. Maybe they could find very interesting they could find very interesting they could find very interesting artifacts or even uh the big question is artifacts or even uh the big question is artifacts or even uh the big question is if those all those 100 thousands of if those all those 100 thousands of if those all those 100 thousands of stone circles were cow stoages where are stone circles were cow stoages where are stone circles were cow stoages where are the buildings or the rest of the the buildings or the rest of the the buildings or the rest of the buildings of the people who owned the buildings of the people who owned the buildings of the people who owned the cows? I mean uh and uh Michael Tallinger cows? I mean uh and uh Michael Tallinger cows? I mean uh and uh Michael Tallinger is a very very serious researcher and he is a very very serious researcher and he is a very very serious researcher and he did with official scientists a lot of did with official scientists a lot of did with official scientists a lot of researchers on the spot and they found researchers on the spot and they found researchers on the spot and they found out that these stone circles are out that these stone circles are out that these stone circles are creating sound and energy and heat even

creating sound and energy and heat even creating sound and energy and heat even and of course in nighttime the and of course in nighttime the and of course in nighttime the the temperature inside the stone circles the temperature inside the stone circles the temperature inside the stone circles is higher than outside. So that means is higher than outside. So that means is higher than outside. So that means that's a reason why animals they can that's a reason why animals they can that's a reason why animals they can sense much more than we human can do. sense much more than we human can do. sense much more than we human can do. They are going for sleeping inside the They are going for sleeping inside the They are going for sleeping inside the stone circles because it's warmer to lay stone circles because it's warmer to lay stone circles because it's warmer to lay down there. It's natural. So but that's down there. It's natural. So but that's down there. It's natural. So but that's not for me the the the explanation that not for me the the the explanation that not for me the the the explanation that these are cow stoages. these are cow stoages. these are cow stoages. Yeah. I usually find that you you get Yeah. I usually find that you you get Yeah. I usually find that you you get like an extraordinary explanation to like an extraordinary explanation to like an extraordinary explanation to explain away these structures. Um I know explain away these structures. Um I know explain away these structures. Um I know you've looked at the Mongolian pyramidal you've looked at the Mongolian pyramidal you've looked at the Mongolian pyramidal structures um and there's artifacts structures um and there's artifacts structures um and there's artifacts associated with them. What's the verdict associated with them. What's the verdict associated with them. What's the verdict on them? Do we know exactly much more on them? Do we know exactly much more on them? Do we know exactly much more about them or Yes. Uh also a few years about them or Yes. Uh also a few years about them or Yes. Uh also a few years ago I received uh a few photographs from ago I received uh a few photographs from ago I received uh a few photographs from a Chinese archaeologist from southern a Chinese archaeologist from southern a Chinese archaeologist from southern Mongolia uh round pyramids structures. Mongolia uh round pyramids structures. Mongolia uh round pyramids structures. And this is the area where the Chinese And this is the area where the Chinese And this is the area where the Chinese uh archaeologists found many pieces made uh archaeologists found many pieces made uh archaeologists found many pieces made out of chade. Very strange uh artifacts.

out of chade. Very strange uh artifacts. out of chade. Very strange uh artifacts. And they say that those artifacts And they say that those artifacts And they say that those artifacts belongs to the Hong Chan culture which belongs to the Hong Chan culture which belongs to the Hong Chan culture which goes back approximately 4,000 years. goes back approximately 4,000 years. goes back approximately 4,000 years. Even 4,000 years old man-made wonderful Even 4,000 years old man-made wonderful Even 4,000 years old man-made wonderful uh jade pieces for me are raising the uh jade pieces for me are raising the uh jade pieces for me are raising the question, how did they do the carving? question, how did they do the carving? question, how did they do the carving? because jail as you know is very very because jail as you know is very very because jail as you know is very very hard. And a few months ago, I got a hard. And a few months ago, I got a hard. And a few months ago, I got a contact from a Korean artist from contact from a Korean artist from contact from a Korean artist from Munich, and she informed me uh about a Munich, and she informed me uh about a Munich, and she informed me uh about a researcher in Korea who has uh hundreds researcher in Korea who has uh hundreds researcher in Korea who has uh hundreds of photos of other uh jade uh figurines, of photos of other uh jade uh figurines, of photos of other uh jade uh figurines, statues, which are from small up to 30, statues, which are from small up to 30, statues, which are from small up to 30, 40 40 40 cm, and all made out of jade. Beautiful. cm, and all made out of jade. Beautiful. cm, and all made out of jade. Beautiful. but sometimes very strange artifacts and but sometimes very strange artifacts and but sometimes very strange artifacts and uh they are dated by this researcher and uh they are dated by this researcher and uh they are dated by this researcher and some of his colleagues at least older some of his colleagues at least older some of his colleagues at least older than 8,000 years older than 8,000 years.

than 8,000 years older than 8,000 years. than 8,000 years older than 8,000 years. And many of them were found uh in tombs And many of them were found uh in tombs And many of them were found uh in tombs in graves underground. And the strange in graves underground. And the strange in graves underground. And the strange thing is that those uh artifacts are thing is that those uh artifacts are thing is that those uh artifacts are painted with a black color. and they painted with a black color. and they painted with a black color. and they could not yet found out what kind of could not yet found out what kind of could not yet found out what kind of color they used to paint it black. And color they used to paint it black. And color they used to paint it black. And this researcher wrote a very very this researcher wrote a very very this researcher wrote a very very interesting book with many uh interesting book with many uh interesting book with many uh photographs and he sent it to me. It's photographs and he sent it to me. It's photographs and he sent it to me. It's in English and he calls this culture in English and he calls this culture in English and he calls this culture Marco culture and it goes concerning him Marco culture and it goes concerning him Marco culture and it goes concerning him definitely back in time 8,000 at least definitely back in time 8,000 at least definitely back in time 8,000 at least 8,000 years. So we are talking about a 8,000 years. So we are talking about a 8,000 years. So we are talking about a civilization which is older than the civilization which is older than the civilization which is older than the oldest known high civilization 6,000 oldest known high civilization 6,000 oldest known high civilization 6,000 years. So it's older at least two or years. So it's older at least two or years. So it's older at least two or three or even more thousands of years. three or even more thousands of years. three or even more thousands of years. And then again the question what kind of And then again the question what kind of And then again the question what kind of culture was it? And my question was why culture was it? And my question was why culture was it? And my question was why did they paint those artifacts with a did they paint those artifacts with a did they paint those artifacts with a black color? And then I remembered the black color? And then I remembered the black color? And then I remembered the wise in Easter Island. They are also wise in Easter Island. They are also wise in Easter Island. They are also black black material. And this Korean black black material. And this Korean black black material. And this Korean researcher uh thinks that those researcher uh thinks that those researcher uh thinks that those artifacts are connected with the sunken artifacts are connected with the sunken artifacts are connected with the sunken continent Leuria or Moo. Wow. And if so continent Leuria or Moo. Wow. And if so continent Leuria or Moo. Wow. And if so then it's very interesting. Easter then it's very interesting. Easter then it's very interesting. Easter Island you have black uh statues and you Island you have black uh statues and you Island you have black uh statues and you have also in parts of uh Korea, China

have also in parts of uh Korea, China have also in parts of uh Korea, China and especially uh Mongolia you find also and especially uh Mongolia you find also and especially uh Mongolia you find also black painted uh statues which are very black painted uh statues which are very black painted uh statues which are very strange and for me interesting is that strange and for me interesting is that strange and for me interesting is that some of the moai they are now doing some of the moai they are now doing some of the moai they are now doing excavations because they found out that excavations because they found out that excavations because they found out that some of the statues are going even uh some of the statues are going even uh some of the statues are going even uh deeper down into the Earth for several deeper down into the Earth for several deeper down into the Earth for several meters and they did already some meters and they did already some meters and they did already some excavations excavations excavations and on some of the pec of those mois and on some of the pec of those mois and on some of the pec of those mois they found unknown writings or symbols they found unknown writings or symbols they found unknown writings or symbols and some of those uh Marco culture uh and some of those uh Marco culture uh and some of those uh Marco culture uh chade figurines they have similar chade figurines they have similar chade figurines they have similar writings unknown writings or symbols on writings unknown writings or symbols on writings unknown writings or symbols on them. So there is a connection I think them. So there is a connection I think them. So there is a connection I think so too between Easter Island and those so too between Easter Island and those so too between Easter Island and those pieces found in uh Asia. Wow. And uh as pieces found in uh Asia. Wow. And uh as pieces found in uh Asia. Wow. And uh as I was very interested in that uh point, I was very interested in that uh point, I was very interested in that uh point, I asked my friend to do a scan over the I asked my friend to do a scan over the I asked my friend to do a scan over the Easter Island and what we found is Easter Island and what we found is Easter Island and what we found is several graves to very deep underground several graves to very deep underground several graves to very deep underground and always not too far away from a moai.

and always not too far away from a moai. and always not too far away from a moai. they found. So we are trying now to get they found. So we are trying now to get they found. So we are trying now to get in contact with the archaeologists who in contact with the archaeologists who in contact with the archaeologists who are doing the excavations at the MUI and are doing the excavations at the MUI and are doing the excavations at the MUI and if they believe us and this is the if they believe us and this is the if they believe us and this is the biggest problem uh then we could give biggest problem uh then we could give biggest problem uh then we could give them at least one position and they them at least one position and they them at least one position and they could do uh scientific research and could do uh scientific research and could do uh scientific research and doing an excavation there. and uh to doing an excavation there. and uh to doing an excavation there. and uh to Hayatar when he was uh first time on the Hayatar when he was uh first time on the Hayatar when he was uh first time on the first his first expedition on the Easter first his first expedition on the Easter first his first expedition on the Easter Island Island Island 1956 he wrote in his book that the old 1956 he wrote in his book that the old 1956 he wrote in his book that the old people there the indigenous people told people there the indigenous people told people there the indigenous people told him that long long time ago uh they they him that long long time ago uh they they him that long long time ago uh they they buried the kings on their island and buried the kings on their island and buried the kings on their island and that means for me that means for me that means for me kings. First of all, it would be kings. First of all, it would be kings. First of all, it would be interesting what kind of skeletons could interesting what kind of skeletons could interesting what kind of skeletons could we find in the tombs. But uh what my we find in the tombs. But uh what my we find in the tombs. But uh what my friend also detected is precious stones, friend also detected is precious stones, friend also detected is precious stones, bones and precious material. And you bones and precious material. And you bones and precious material. And you know, James, that there is no mining of know, James, that there is no mining of know, James, that there is no mining of gold mining or uh precious stone mining gold mining or uh precious stone mining gold mining or uh precious stone mining on the Easter Island. So the question on the Easter Island. So the question on the Easter Island. So the question would be where those material came from.

would be where those material came from. would be where those material came from. And if the old people already said to And if the old people already said to And if the old people already said to Dhayata 1956 Dhayata 1956 Dhayata 1956 that they buried the kings long time ago that they buried the kings long time ago that they buried the kings long time ago for me that would be a good point to for me that would be a good point to for me that would be a good point to have precious material and precious have precious material and precious have precious material and precious stone in the same toms. And that could stone in the same toms. And that could stone in the same toms. And that could be one of the final approval that Easter be one of the final approval that Easter be one of the final approval that Easter Island is a rest of the su continent Island is a rest of the su continent Island is a rest of the su continent Leuria or Amu in the Pacific Ocean. I Leuria or Amu in the Pacific Ocean. I Leuria or Amu in the Pacific Ocean. I have a first edition of the Kandiki have a first edition of the Kandiki have a first edition of the Kandiki expedition. I've looked at the routes in expedition. I've looked at the routes in expedition. I've looked at the routes in in and out of Easter Island. A lot of in and out of Easter Island. A lot of in and out of Easter Island. A lot of people think maybe from South America to people think maybe from South America to people think maybe from South America to Easter Island is the most obvious one, Easter Island is the most obvious one, Easter Island is the most obvious one, but I definitely favor the Asia route um but I definitely favor the Asia route um but I definitely favor the Asia route um into Easter Island and and then maybe to into Easter Island and and then maybe to into Easter Island and and then maybe to uh South America. But the whatever is uh South America. But the whatever is uh South America. But the whatever is going on in Easter Island, it's going on in Easter Island, it's going on in Easter Island, it's definitely incredibly interesting. It's definitely incredibly interesting. It's definitely incredibly interesting. It's hinting at these guys coming from hinting at these guys coming from hinting at these guys coming from totally somewhere else with a preculture totally somewhere else with a preculture totally somewhere else with a preculture from somewhere else. Uh dynasty of kings from somewhere else. Uh dynasty of kings from somewhere else. Uh dynasty of kings or whatever or artifacts or knowledge or or whatever or artifacts or knowledge or or whatever or artifacts or knowledge or whatever you want to look at it. These whatever you want to look at it. These whatever you want to look at it. These guys came from somewhere else with an guys came from somewhere else with an guys came from somewhere else with an existing culture and got stranded on the existing culture and got stranded on the existing culture and got stranded on the island. I think maybe it could be the island. I think maybe it could be the island. I think maybe it could be the former graveyard of the kings of Mu.

former graveyard of the kings of Mu. former graveyard of the kings of Mu. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, while we're in Asia and talking Um, while we're in Asia and talking Um, while we're in Asia and talking artifacts, I got to talk about the Joe artifacts, I got to talk about the Joe artifacts, I got to talk about the Joe Man. Uh, I I was in the British Museum Man. Uh, I I was in the British Museum Man. Uh, I I was in the British Museum before I came to Austria here and uh I before I came to Austria here and uh I before I came to Austria here and uh I seen a little Joe Man figurine. Uh, the seen a little Joe Man figurine. Uh, the seen a little Joe Man figurine. Uh, the ceramics. Um, these guys are incredibly ceramics. Um, these guys are incredibly ceramics. Um, these guys are incredibly interesting. I mean, these things go interesting. I mean, these things go interesting. I mean, these things go back a long time. This is this is back a long time. This is this is back a long time. This is this is academically proven to 10 10,000 BC. academically proven to 10 10,000 BC. academically proven to 10 10,000 BC. 10,000 the 10,000 the 10,000 the Chan culture is dated back uh 6,000 Chan culture is dated back uh 6,000 Chan culture is dated back uh 6,000 years. 6,000 years. And the strange years. 6,000 years. And the strange years. 6,000 years. And the strange thing is that uh the oldest thing is that uh the oldest thing is that uh the oldest pre-Colombian culture which did ceramics pre-Colombian culture which did ceramics pre-Colombian culture which did ceramics is the Vivia culture which also goes is the Vivia culture which also goes is the Vivia culture which also goes back 6,000 years. And I saw u vases uh back 6,000 years. And I saw u vases uh back 6,000 years. And I saw u vases uh or pots uh from German culture and also or pots uh from German culture and also or pots uh from German culture and also from Bivia culture and if you put those from Bivia culture and if you put those from Bivia culture and if you put those uh pots or vases together you cannot uh pots or vases together you cannot uh pots or vases together you cannot find the difference. Wow. And the next find the difference. Wow. And the next find the difference. Wow. And the next uh point which might have been a uh point which might have been a uh point which might have been a connection between Japan and South connection between Japan and South connection between Japan and South America are the stone monuments because America are the stone monuments because America are the stone monuments because you know uh you know uh you know uh Sakaano all these places with a very Sakaano all these places with a very Sakaano all these places with a very huge stone blocks uh buildings and the huge stone blocks uh buildings and the huge stone blocks uh buildings and the uh Yonaguni. Wow. Yaguni the very huge uh Yonaguni. Wow. Yaguni the very huge uh Yonaguni. Wow. Yaguni the very huge man-made stone structure under the sea man-made stone structure under the sea man-made stone structure under the sea level uh in Iseki Island which is the level uh in Iseki Island which is the level uh in Iseki Island which is the southeast Japanese island very close to

southeast Japanese island very close to southeast Japanese island very close to Taiwan and Professor Mazaki Kimura he's Taiwan and Professor Mazaki Kimura he's Taiwan and Professor Mazaki Kimura he's doing the under sea uh research there doing the under sea uh research there doing the under sea uh research there already since many years still Yanaguni already since many years still Yanaguni already since many years still Yanaguni is not accepted full by the official is not accepted full by the official is not accepted full by the official archaeologists because some of them are archaeologists because some of them are archaeologists because some of them are still saying that this is a natural still saying that this is a natural still saying that this is a natural formation which is completely formation which is completely formation which is completely ununderstandable for me. If you see all ununderstandable for me. If you see all ununderstandable for me. If you see all those photos, uh, Professor Mazaki those photos, uh, Professor Mazaki those photos, uh, Professor Mazaki Kimura did and he told me that he found Kimura did and he told me that he found Kimura did and he told me that he found even other stone structures which are even other stone structures which are even other stone structures which are definitely man-made and he wrote a book definitely man-made and he wrote a book definitely man-made and he wrote a book the s continent moo and on in this book the s continent moo and on in this book the s continent moo and on in this book he wrote that uh he thinks because of he wrote that uh he thinks because of he wrote that uh he thinks because of his research from the northeast uh his research from the northeast uh his research from the northeast uh Japanese uh former Japanese island the Japanese uh former Japanese island the Japanese uh former Japanese island the Sakaline islands which are now belonging Sakaline islands which are now belonging Sakaline islands which are now belonging to Russia. to Russia. to Russia. until far down after Taiwan that there until far down after Taiwan that there until far down after Taiwan that there was once a long continent which he was once a long continent which he was once a long continent which he thinks that could have been moved.

thinks that could have been moved. thinks that could have been moved. That's why he wrote the book. And when I That's why he wrote the book. And when I That's why he wrote the book. And when I presented 2001 presented 2001 presented 2001 uh several artifacts from Lana in uh several artifacts from Lana in uh several artifacts from Lana in Ecuador there is one stone it's Ecuador there is one stone it's Ecuador there is one stone it's 350 kilo granite stone quartz granite. 350 kilo granite stone quartz granite. 350 kilo granite stone quartz granite. Wow. And you have an anarving on this Wow. And you have an anarving on this Wow. And you have an anarving on this stone of the world map and you can see stone of the world map and you can see stone of the world map and you can see uh countries like Italy, Greek, the uh countries like Italy, Greek, the uh countries like Italy, Greek, the Mediterranean, there is uh one natural Mediterranean, there is uh one natural Mediterranean, there is uh one natural quartz line a vein. Yeah. The vein runs quartz line a vein. Yeah. The vein runs quartz line a vein. Yeah. The vein runs through a vein through and in the Middle through a vein through and in the Middle through a vein through and in the Middle East you have an eye inlay and then the East you have an eye inlay and then the East you have an eye inlay and then the natural quartz line passes the natural quartz line passes the natural quartz line passes the Mediterranean passes the Atlantic Ocean Mediterranean passes the Atlantic Ocean Mediterranean passes the Atlantic Ocean and there you have one continent on this and there you have one continent on this and there you have one continent on this stone map which does not exist in our stone map which does not exist in our stone map which does not exist in our days which could be the so-called days which could be the so-called days which could be the so-called mystical continent Atlantis. mystical continent Atlantis. mystical continent Atlantis. And then it passes South America. Mhm. And then it passes South America. Mhm. And then it passes South America. Mhm. Venezuela going down to Ecuador and at Venezuela going down to Ecuador and at Venezuela going down to Ecuador and at the bay of Guakil there's another inlay the bay of Guakil there's another inlay the bay of Guakil there's another inlay going up to north and there's a round going up to north and there's a round going up to north and there's a round inlay and this is the place where all inlay and this is the place where all inlay and this is the place where all this material was found but then the this material was found but then the this material was found but then the quartz line is passing the uh Pacific quartz line is passing the uh Pacific quartz line is passing the uh Pacific Ocean and is passing where today is Ocean and is passing where today is Ocean and is passing where today is Japan and on this stone map you have Japan and on this stone map you have Japan and on this stone map you have from the northeast Japanese island until from the northeast Japanese island until from the northeast Japanese island until far down after Taiwan you have already

far down after Taiwan you have already far down after Taiwan you have already one continent in carved it would fit one continent in carved it would fit one continent in carved it would fit exactly the research of professor Mazaki exactly the research of professor Mazaki exactly the research of professor Mazaki Kimura so that means those this stone Kimura so that means those this stone Kimura so that means those this stone world map must be at least older than world map must be at least older than world map must be at least older than 10,000 years but then the big question 10,000 years but then the big question 10,000 years but then the big question is raising up who could have been able is raising up who could have been able is raising up who could have been able to do a quite precise stone world map on to do a quite precise stone world map on to do a quite precise stone world map on a granite stone a granite stone a granite stone showing two continents which do not showing two continents which do not showing two continents which do not exist or not in this style in our days. exist or not in this style in our days. exist or not in this style in our days. Wow. Wow. Totally fascinating. Um I got Wow. Wow. Totally fascinating. Um I got Wow. Wow. Totally fascinating. Um I got to talk about Jack Church's uh and James to talk about Jack Church's uh and James to talk about Jack Church's uh and James Church as well. Um and the NAL tablets Church as well. Um and the NAL tablets Church as well. Um and the NAL tablets of India. Um this is incredibly of India. Um this is incredibly of India. Um this is incredibly fascinating. I've had uh Jack on the fascinating. I've had uh Jack on the fascinating. I've had uh Jack on the show um talking about his grandfather's show um talking about his grandfather's show um talking about his grandfather's work and work and work and um fascinating these NL tablets. Let's um fascinating these NL tablets. Let's um fascinating these NL tablets. Let's talk a little bit this cuz this ties in talk a little bit this cuz this ties in talk a little bit this cuz this ties in with me as well. Uh yes. Uh James Church with me as well. Uh yes. Uh James Church with me as well. Uh yes. Uh James Church for me did a wonderful and great for me did a wonderful and great for me did a wonderful and great research which also his greatgrandson research which also his greatgrandson research which also his greatgrandson check is doing. I'm in contact with him check is doing. I'm in contact with him check is doing. I'm in contact with him too and that's why I try to get also an too and that's why I try to get also an too and that's why I try to get also an approver of the existence of uh the approver of the existence of uh the approver of the existence of uh the continent move that once it definitely continent move that once it definitely continent move that once it definitely existed. I am now in contact with an existed. I am now in contact with an existed. I am now in contact with an American lady.

American lady. American lady. She was uh I think over 20 years in Nan She was uh I think over 20 years in Nan She was uh I think over 20 years in Nan Madul. Wow. Uh she did a lot of research Madul. Wow. Uh she did a lot of research Madul. Wow. Uh she did a lot of research and she is now writing a book. I'm and she is now writing a book. I'm and she is now writing a book. I'm waiting to get this book, but she sent waiting to get this book, but she sent waiting to get this book, but she sent me already some articles of her book and me already some articles of her book and me already some articles of her book and she also sent me some photographs of uh she also sent me some photographs of uh she also sent me some photographs of uh stone in carvings with uh symbols and stone in carvings with uh symbols and stone in carvings with uh symbols and many of those symbols I saw already in many of those symbols I saw already in many of those symbols I saw already in the book of James Churchwell. So that's the book of James Churchwell. So that's the book of James Churchwell. So that's one point the so-called nakal plates as one point the so-called nakal plates as one point the so-called nakal plates as he explained and I'm still researching he explained and I'm still researching he explained and I'm still researching on the uh ceramic or terra cotta plates on the uh ceramic or terra cotta plates on the uh ceramic or terra cotta plates which were found at the end of uh 20th which were found at the end of uh 20th which were found at the end of uh 20th century by William Neban. William Neban century by William Neban. William Neban century by William Neban. William Neban was a British minologist living in was a British minologist living in was a British minologist living in United States and he was searching for United States and he was searching for United States and he was searching for new minerals in Mexico and new minerals in Mexico and new minerals in Mexico and 1897 he found in the high wall of 1897 he found in the high wall of 1897 he found in the high wall of Mexico. he found uh under three uh Mexico. he found uh under three uh Mexico. he found uh under three uh soils, three different soils, three different soils, three different civilizations and the most advanced was civilizations and the most advanced was civilizations and the most advanced was the deepest one and many of those jade the deepest one and many of those jade the deepest one and many of those jade figurines for example they had uh like figurines for example they had uh like figurines for example they had uh like Asian uh faces. Wow. And uh over this uh Asian uh faces. Wow. And uh over this uh Asian uh faces. Wow. And uh over this uh third uh underground uh finding area

third uh underground uh finding area third uh underground uh finding area there was a volcano ash and the last big there was a volcano ash and the last big there was a volcano ash and the last big volcano ex um explosion was about at volcano ex um explosion was about at volcano ex um explosion was about at least 10 12,000 years ago. So we are least 10 12,000 years ago. So we are least 10 12,000 years ago. So we are talking here also again about a very old talking here also again about a very old talking here also again about a very old high advanced civilization and William high advanced civilization and William high advanced civilization and William Neban found over 3,000 plates with Neban found over 3,000 plates with Neban found over 3,000 plates with symbols which were exactly the same like symbols which were exactly the same like symbols which were exactly the same like James Church saw on the naral plates in James Church saw on the naral plates in James Church saw on the naral plates in India. So again another um point that we India. So again another um point that we India. So again another um point that we are talking about some continents. Mhm. are talking about some continents. Mhm. are talking about some continents. Mhm. It's fascinating cuz I know alternative It's fascinating cuz I know alternative It's fascinating cuz I know alternative researchers like yourself, Claus, are researchers like yourself, Claus, are researchers like yourself, Claus, are out there tying things together, getting out there tying things together, getting out there tying things together, getting connections and and you know, do you connections and and you know, do you connections and and you know, do you find it hard to open dialogue with find it hard to open dialogue with find it hard to open dialogue with institutions or maybe you open dialogue institutions or maybe you open dialogue institutions or maybe you open dialogue but the dialogue ends pretty quick but the dialogue ends pretty quick but the dialogue ends pretty quick maybe? Um this is a problem because uh maybe? Um this is a problem because uh maybe? Um this is a problem because uh you cannot talk with a specialist of you cannot talk with a specialist of you cannot talk with a specialist of pre-colian culture about Egyptian pre-colian culture about Egyptian pre-colian culture about Egyptian culture and vice versa. But I think culture and vice versa. But I think culture and vice versa. But I think there are so many similarities there are so many similarities there are so many similarities and for me every artifact is is a kind and for me every artifact is is a kind and for me every artifact is is a kind of puzzle and the more puzzles we get of puzzle and the more puzzles we get of puzzle and the more puzzles we get together maybe one day we can definitely together maybe one day we can definitely together maybe one day we can definitely make a final picture. We have a cobra make a final picture. We have a cobra make a final picture. We have a cobra artifact if I remember correctly last artifact if I remember correctly last artifact if I remember correctly last time we spoke there's a cobra artifact time we spoke there's a cobra artifact time we spoke there's a cobra artifact in South America somewhere. This is from in South America somewhere. This is from in South America somewhere. This is from the same place I uh the the world stone the same place I uh the the world stone the same place I uh the the world stone map was found. It was 1984.

map was found. It was 1984. map was found. It was 1984. Mhm. Um engineer Sto Mayua, he was Mhm. Um engineer Sto Mayua, he was Mhm. Um engineer Sto Mayua, he was working for a British mining company in working for a British mining company in working for a British mining company in a small village called Lana in Ecuador a small village called Lana in Ecuador a small village called Lana in Ecuador and they did and they did and they did uh drillings and excavation for gold. uh drillings and excavation for gold. uh drillings and excavation for gold. They were searching for gold and They were searching for gold and They were searching for gold and suddenly they he found one underground suddenly they he found one underground suddenly they he found one underground tunnel and in this tunnel he found over tunnel and in this tunnel he found over tunnel and in this tunnel he found over 300 artifacts and most of them do not 300 artifacts and most of them do not 300 artifacts and most of them do not connect any known pre-Colombian culture connect any known pre-Colombian culture connect any known pre-Colombian culture and there was also for example a jade uh and there was also for example a jade uh and there was also for example a jade uh cobra head with seven points on the left cobra head with seven points on the left cobra head with seven points on the left side right side and that means could be side right side and that means could be side right side and that means could be a connection to the Asian uh chakras a connection to the Asian uh chakras a connection to the Asian uh chakras chakra points to the chakra points chakra points to the chakra points chakra points to the chakra points and there were also 33 lines on on and there were also 33 lines on on and there were also 33 lines on on on bottom of the head of the cobra head. on bottom of the head of the cobra head. on bottom of the head of the cobra head. Wow. So cobras never existed in South Wow. So cobras never existed in South Wow. So cobras never existed in South America. So that's one of the conclusion America. So that's one of the conclusion America. So that's one of the conclusion that those species are throat but for me that those species are throat but for me that those species are throat but for me they are original. Yes. There's 33 they are original. Yes. There's 33 they are original. Yes. There's 33 vertebraes in the neck or the back. Is vertebraes in the neck or the back. Is vertebraes in the neck or the back. Is that right? No also on on on the on the that right? No also on on on the on the that right? No also on on on the on the chest. Is it on the chest? Chest. Yeah.

chest. Is it on the chest? Chest. Yeah. chest. Is it on the chest? Chest. Yeah. Wow. Wow. And you know 7 and 33 are very Wow. Wow. And you know 7 and 33 are very Wow. Wow. And you know 7 and 33 are very uh important numbers. Important numbers. uh important numbers. Important numbers. uh important numbers. Important numbers. Yes. Two symbologists. Yes. Um tell me Yes. Two symbologists. Yes. Um tell me Yes. Two symbologists. Yes. Um tell me about Franco Kresby and the plates cuz about Franco Kresby and the plates cuz about Franco Kresby and the plates cuz this is a fascinating story. This has this is a fascinating story. This has this is a fascinating story. This has got mystery all over it. Claus. Father got mystery all over it. Claus. Father got mystery all over it. Claus. Father Kresby. Yes. Um, Father Kresby was a Kresby. Yes. Um, Father Kresby was a Kresby. Yes. Um, Father Kresby was a Italian-b born priest working many many Italian-b born priest working many many Italian-b born priest working many many years in uh, Ecuador as a missionary uh, years in uh, Ecuador as a missionary uh, years in uh, Ecuador as a missionary uh, with the indigenous tribes in the jungle with the indigenous tribes in the jungle with the indigenous tribes in the jungle area, Amazon area and uh, there are also area, Amazon area and uh, there are also area, Amazon area and uh, there are also the famous the famous the famous quasios. It's a huge underground tunnel quasios. It's a huge underground tunnel quasios. It's a huge underground tunnel system. And Juan Moritz, he was uh system. And Juan Moritz, he was uh system. And Juan Moritz, he was uh Hungarian but uh grow grown up in Hungarian but uh grow grown up in Hungarian but uh grow grown up in Argentine and he did a lot of research Argentine and he did a lot of research Argentine and he did a lot of research in Ecuador and he made uh several in Ecuador and he made uh several in Ecuador and he made uh several reports that he found in the quast loss reports that he found in the quast loss reports that he found in the quast loss uh a library a metal library with uh a library a metal library with uh a library a metal library with unknown writings and unknown symbols.

unknown writings and unknown symbols. unknown writings and unknown symbols. Father Kresby, he got many times from Father Kresby, he got many times from Father Kresby, he got many times from the indigenous people some gifts because the indigenous people some gifts because the indigenous people some gifts because of his uh help. He helped uh the people of his uh help. He helped uh the people of his uh help. He helped uh the people a lot and uh they loved him and many a lot and uh they loved him and many a lot and uh they loved him and many times they brought him uh pieces they times they brought him uh pieces they times they brought him uh pieces they found on their territory. Wow. So in his found on their territory. Wow. So in his found on their territory. Wow. So in his collection there were hundreds of metal collection there were hundreds of metal collection there were hundreds of metal plates uh most of them a kind of copper plates uh most of them a kind of copper plates uh most of them a kind of copper with unknown writings, unknown symbols with unknown writings, unknown symbols with unknown writings, unknown symbols and some of them even in stone. And uh and some of them even in stone. And uh and some of them even in stone. And uh some of these unknown writings we found some of these unknown writings we found some of these unknown writings we found in his collection in some of the pieces in his collection in some of the pieces in his collection in some of the pieces of his former collection. We found the of his former collection. We found the of his former collection. We found the same unknown writing in Colombia on same unknown writing in Colombia on same unknown writing in Colombia on stone artifacts. We found the same uh stone artifacts. We found the same uh stone artifacts. We found the same uh unknown writings uh symbols on pieces unknown writings uh symbols on pieces unknown writings uh symbols on pieces which I show you later here from the which I show you later here from the which I show you later here from the so-called Burus cave in United States. so-called Burus cave in United States. so-called Burus cave in United States. Uh we found the same writing in France Uh we found the same writing in France Uh we found the same writing in France in Gloel in Gloel in Gloel 1924. A farmer found on his ground over 1924. A farmer found on his ground over 1924. A farmer found on his ground over 300 artifacts and many of them with this 300 artifacts and many of them with this 300 artifacts and many of them with this unknown writing. But still the unknown writing. But still the unknown writing. But still the collection of um Gloel is not accepted collection of um Gloel is not accepted collection of um Gloel is not accepted as official original artifacts. Age as official original artifacts. Age as official original artifacts. Age dating went back even uh 12,000 years.

dating went back even uh 12,000 years. dating went back even uh 12,000 years. Wow. on bones age dating. So we found Wow. on bones age dating. So we found Wow. on bones age dating. So we found the same writing in Calabria in Italy, the same writing in Calabria in Italy, the same writing in Calabria in Italy, in Malta, in Tmanistan and even in in Malta, in Tmanistan and even in in Malta, in Tmanistan and even in Australia. There was once at least a Australia. There was once at least a Australia. There was once at least a global civilization or a global global civilization or a global global civilization or a global connection uh a civilization which had a connection uh a civilization which had a connection uh a civilization which had a global connection. And all of these global connection. And all of these global connection. And all of these artifacts are not accepted as originals artifacts are not accepted as originals artifacts are not accepted as originals by the official science because for them by the official science because for them by the official science because for them it is un ununderst understandable it is un ununderst understandable it is un ununderst understandable uh that a long long time ago there lived uh that a long long time ago there lived uh that a long long time ago there lived already a global civilization on earth. already a global civilization on earth. already a global civilization on earth. Just for the listeners, there's also the Just for the listeners, there's also the Just for the listeners, there's also the the cocaine and tobacco mummies and uh the cocaine and tobacco mummies and uh the cocaine and tobacco mummies and uh they found this in the DNA of the hair they found this in the DNA of the hair they found this in the DNA of the hair of mummies and it was a German lady I of mummies and it was a German lady I of mummies and it was a German lady I believe in the '90s came up with this believe in the '90s came up with this believe in the '90s came up with this evidence and Yes. And uh what happened? evidence and Yes. And uh what happened? evidence and Yes. And uh what happened? Uh she made a report and immediately uh Uh she made a report and immediately uh Uh she made a report and immediately uh they checked her former life and they they checked her former life and they they checked her former life and they found out that she was living with other found out that she was living with other found out that she was living with other students together and she was smoking uh students together and she was smoking uh students together and she was smoking uh some stuff in the past and immediately some stuff in the past and immediately some stuff in the past and immediately her carrier was destroyed. But years her carrier was destroyed. But years her carrier was destroyed. But years later, Russian scientists uh confirmed later, Russian scientists uh confirmed later, Russian scientists uh confirmed uh that um mame textiles y uh they found uh that um mame textiles y uh they found uh that um mame textiles y uh they found in in Egypt mame textiles uh cocoa and in in Egypt mame textiles uh cocoa and in in Egypt mame textiles uh cocoa and tobacco uh indigenous to South America tobacco uh indigenous to South America tobacco uh indigenous to South America only. Yes. So we have right there like

only. Yes. So we have right there like only. Yes. So we have right there like scientific data and analysis to explain scientific data and analysis to explain scientific data and analysis to explain it. And I I I still find it crazy today it. And I I I still find it crazy today it. And I I I still find it crazy today that this is largely ignored. I think uh that this is largely ignored. I think uh that this is largely ignored. I think uh it was like he asked basically no never it was like he asked basically no never it was like he asked basically no never any apology given. I think they just any apology given. I think they just any apology given. I think they just basically said rudimentary contact basic basically said rudimentary contact basic basically said rudimentary contact basic contact is and that was that was it contact is and that was that was it contact is and that was that was it brushed away as basic contact and you brushed away as basic contact and you brushed away as basic contact and you know it's it there should be like a know it's it there should be like a know it's it there should be like a whole song and dance about this but uh whole song and dance about this but uh whole song and dance about this but uh um we also have Samrian writing in um we also have Samrian writing in um we also have Samrian writing in Bolivia. Tell us a little bit about this Bolivia. Tell us a little bit about this Bolivia. Tell us a little bit about this epic Samrian writing in Bolivia. Oh epic Samrian writing in Bolivia. Oh epic Samrian writing in Bolivia. Oh yeah, they found uh already several yeah, they found uh already several yeah, they found uh already several years ago they found some ceramics with years ago they found some ceramics with years ago they found some ceramics with Sumerian writing. But for me the Sumerian writing. But for me the Sumerian writing. But for me the question is uh who used them first? ah question is uh who used them first? ah question is uh who used them first? ah Sumerianss or interesting the people in Sumerianss or interesting the people in Sumerianss or interesting the people in Bolivia and concerning age uh for me the Bolivia and concerning age uh for me the Bolivia and concerning age uh for me the Bolivian uh age or the age of Bolivian Bolivian uh age or the age of Bolivian Bolivian uh age or the age of Bolivian culture for me personally that's my culture for me personally that's my culture for me personally that's my personal thinking and also of many other personal thinking and also of many other personal thinking and also of many other people that Bolivian history is going people that Bolivian history is going people that Bolivian history is going far behind this time. So the question is far behind this time. So the question is far behind this time. So the question is still who used them first because um the still who used them first because um the still who used them first because um the unknown writing which we found on many unknown writing which we found on many unknown writing which we found on many stones worldwide. There was one man stones worldwide. There was one man stones worldwide. There was one man living in Germany, Professor Kilman.

living in Germany, Professor Kilman. living in Germany, Professor Kilman. He was the president of the German He was the president of the German He was the president of the German Linguistic Society. He could he said he Linguistic Society. He could he said he Linguistic Society. He could he said he did not translate this writing. He said did not translate this writing. He said did not translate this writing. He said he could decipher this writing. And uh he could decipher this writing. And uh he could decipher this writing. And uh he called this writing pre-Sanskrit he called this writing pre-Sanskrit he called this writing pre-Sanskrit because he said for him this writing is because he said for him this writing is because he said for him this writing is older than the oldest known writing the older than the oldest known writing the older than the oldest known writing the pre-anskrit the Sanskrit and um he also pre-anskrit the Sanskrit and um he also pre-anskrit the Sanskrit and um he also found out that this writing has a found out that this writing has a found out that this writing has a connection with the Easter Island connection with the Easter Island connection with the Easter Island writing and with the writing of the writing and with the writing of the writing and with the writing of the Indosi from Mohenjodaro and uh this Indosi from Mohenjodaro and uh this Indosi from Mohenjodaro and uh this area. area. area. So you know that uh we have one story So you know that uh we have one story So you know that uh we have one story for example in the Bible it says until for example in the Bible it says until for example in the Bible it says until they built the tower of Babel they all they built the tower of Babel they all they built the tower of Babel they all spoke one language. So maybe this was spoke one language. So maybe this was spoke one language. So maybe this was the first writing at the beginning and the first writing at the beginning and the first writing at the beginning and some of them used some rune style uh some of them used some rune style uh some of them used some rune style uh letters some other used some Greek letters some other used some Greek letters some other used some Greek alphabetic uh style letters. So maybe it alphabetic uh style letters. So maybe it alphabetic uh style letters. So maybe it was the real first writing and then it was the real first writing and then it was the real first writing and then it spread it was spreading in other spread it was spreading in other spread it was spreading in other writings could be but uh I think there writings could be but uh I think there writings could be but uh I think there is a lot still uh to do for the experts is a lot still uh to do for the experts is a lot still uh to do for the experts on ancient writings for me Bolivia on ancient writings for me Bolivia on ancient writings for me Bolivia definitely um probably 12,000 to 15,000 definitely um probably 12,000 to 15,000 definitely um probably 12,000 to 15,000 years Arthur Pausnanski the Polish

years Arthur Pausnanski the Polish years Arthur Pausnanski the Polish engineer he spent a lot of time at the engineer he spent a lot of time at the engineer he spent a lot of time at the Kalisasi temple and he was not a Polish Kalisasi temple and he was not a Polish Kalisasi temple and he was not a Polish He was German. German. Sorry, my He was German. German. Sorry, my He was German. German. Sorry, my mistake. He's often referred to as being mistake. He's often referred to as being mistake. He's often referred to as being Polish though. Yeah. Wow. Maybe his Polish though. Yeah. Wow. Maybe his Polish though. Yeah. Wow. Maybe his ancestor was maybe a Polish name living ancestor was maybe a Polish name living ancestor was maybe a Polish name living in Germany perhaps. Could be. Wow. But in Germany perhaps. Could be. Wow. But in Germany perhaps. Could be. Wow. But he he spent nearly his whole he was he he he spent nearly his whole he was he he he spent nearly his whole he was he was a good businessman. and he spent a was a good businessman. and he spent a was a good businessman. and he spent a lot of his time on conversation uh lot of his time on conversation uh lot of his time on conversation uh conservation of uh many places in conservation of uh many places in conservation of uh many places in Bolivia because you know that they took Bolivia because you know that they took Bolivia because you know that they took uh many of the of the stones for street uh many of the of the stones for street uh many of the of the stones for street construction or for building construction or for building construction or for building construction but he did a lot to construction but he did a lot to construction but he did a lot to preserve preserve this area. I think he preserve preserve this area. I think he preserve preserve this area. I think he had uh the Kalisassi temple dated about had uh the Kalisassi temple dated about had uh the Kalisassi temple dated about 17,000 years old making it 15,000 BC but 17,000 years old making it 15,000 BC but 17,000 years old making it 15,000 BC but only because of the accuracy of his only because of the accuracy of his only because of the accuracy of his measurements it might be refined to measurements it might be refined to measurements it might be refined to maybe 15 13 but I mean but that would be maybe 15 13 but I mean but that would be maybe 15 13 but I mean but that would be also very old still even at the earliest also very old still even at the earliest also very old still even at the earliest date it's looking at about 12 13,000 date it's looking at about 12 13,000 date it's looking at about 12 13,000 years and even in in Bolivia we have years and even in in Bolivia we have years and even in in Bolivia we have places for example close to the Sal um places for example close to the Sal um places for example close to the Sal um Salar Salar deuni that's the biggest Salar Salar deuni that's the biggest Salar Salar deuni that's the biggest salt lake worldwide. Mhm. And for me salt lake worldwide. Mhm. And for me salt lake worldwide. Mhm. And for me that's also a very interesting place why that's also a very interesting place why that's also a very interesting place why there is in 4,000 m there is the biggest there is in 4,000 m there is the biggest there is in 4,000 m there is the biggest salt lake on earth but the surrounding salt lake on earth but the surrounding salt lake on earth but the surrounding areas the surrounding mountains do not areas the surrounding mountains do not areas the surrounding mountains do not have really big salt areas. Wow. So have really big salt areas. Wow. So have really big salt areas. Wow. So where the salt comes from and the next

where the salt comes from and the next where the salt comes from and the next one is the Salar Popo and also the lake one is the Salar Popo and also the lake one is the Salar Popo and also the lake titaka and lake ditikaka still has for titaka and lake ditikaka still has for titaka and lake ditikaka still has for example seahorse example seahorse example seahorse Yeah, the animals which are living in Yeah, the animals which are living in Yeah, the animals which are living in the sea and uh some scientists are the sea and uh some scientists are the sea and uh some scientists are thinking that the whole uners were thinking that the whole uners were thinking that the whole uners were raising up a lot quicker than maybe raising up a lot quicker than maybe raising up a lot quicker than maybe we're told. But uh for me another we're told. But uh for me another we're told. But uh for me another possibility could be that there once in possibility could be that there once in possibility could be that there once in the past was a pole shift. Mhm. And the past was a pole shift. Mhm. And the past was a pole shift. Mhm. And through this pole shift, there could through this pole shift, there could through this pole shift, there could have been a tsunami worldwide which was have been a tsunami worldwide which was have been a tsunami worldwide which was higher up to even 3,000 mters. And if higher up to even 3,000 mters. And if higher up to even 3,000 mters. And if so, then it would be an explanation how so, then it would be an explanation how so, then it would be an explanation how comes salt water to 4,000 m height. Mhm. comes salt water to 4,000 m height. Mhm. comes salt water to 4,000 m height. Mhm. But then the next question is in 4,000 m But then the next question is in 4,000 m But then the next question is in 4,000 m the days are not that hot and the nights the days are not that hot and the nights the days are not that hot and the nights are quite cold. Mhm. So how long would are quite cold. Mhm. So how long would are quite cold. Mhm. So how long would it take to dry the sun? dry the salt in it take to dry the sun? dry the salt in it take to dry the sun? dry the salt in 4,000 m. So then we would would talk 4,000 m. So then we would would talk 4,000 m. So then we would would talk about thousands and thousands of years.

about thousands and thousands of years. about thousands and thousands of years. Wow. Yeah. I favor a pole shift more Wow. Yeah. I favor a pole shift more Wow. Yeah. I favor a pole shift more than anything. I think there's a lot of than anything. I think there's a lot of than anything. I think there's a lot of empood do a lot of research on that empood do a lot of research on that empood do a lot of research on that backed by Einstein as well. So you backed by Einstein as well. So you backed by Einstein as well. So you there's a lot of serious minds have there's a lot of serious minds have there's a lot of serious minds have given the pole shift theory a good look given the pole shift theory a good look given the pole shift theory a good look at, haven't they, CL? So yeah. at, haven't they, CL? So yeah. at, haven't they, CL? So yeah. Um talk about Sierra Leon because you've Um talk about Sierra Leon because you've Um talk about Sierra Leon because you've talked about these statues in Sierra talked about these statues in Sierra talked about these statues in Sierra Leone. There's quite a number of statues Leone. There's quite a number of statues Leone. There's quite a number of statues found there in Sierra Leone. Yes. Um found there in Sierra Leone. Yes. Um found there in Sierra Leone. Yes. Um first information I received through first information I received through first information I received through Adriano for Jon. He is the publisher of Adriano for Jon. He is the publisher of Adriano for Jon. He is the publisher of an archaeological magazine uh Phoenix in an archaeological magazine uh Phoenix in an archaeological magazine uh Phoenix in Italy. He informed me about Professor Italy. He informed me about Professor Italy. He informed me about Professor Ptoni. uh professor pony was a great Ptoni. uh professor pony was a great Ptoni. uh professor pony was a great uh uh uh geologist and he was working worldwide geologist and he was working worldwide geologist and he was working worldwide in the past and also he was working in in the past and also he was working in in the past and also he was working in Sierra Leone for an Italian company for Sierra Leone for an Italian company for Sierra Leone for an Italian company for diamond uh diamond uh diamond uh excavations and uh he was interested excavations and uh he was interested excavations and uh he was interested always in legends and the mythology of always in legends and the mythology of always in legends and the mythology of each country where he was working and he each country where he was working and he each country where he was working and he heard uh the story there that Allah they heard uh the story there that Allah they heard uh the story there that Allah they are Muslim there that Allah got angry on are Muslim there that Allah got angry on are Muslim there that Allah got angry on some of his angels and he petrified them some of his angels and he petrified them some of his angels and he petrified them and he threw them to earth. He took the and he threw them to earth. He took the and he threw them to earth. He took the sky, petrified it, threw it to the earth sky, petrified it, threw it to the earth sky, petrified it, threw it to the earth and he also took the stars and throw it and he also took the stars and throw it and he also took the stars and throw it threw them to the earth. And while the threw them to the earth. And while the threw them to the earth. And while the diamond excavation there uh he found

diamond excavation there uh he found diamond excavation there uh he found always in certain deepness uh in always in certain deepness uh in always in certain deepness uh in different deepness uh he always they different deepness uh he always they different deepness uh he always they found they excavated some stone found they excavated some stone found they excavated some stone figurines. Some of them made out by figurines. Some of them made out by figurines. Some of them made out by sandstone and some of them made out by sandstone and some of them made out by sandstone and some of them made out by granite. granite. granite. Very wonderful statues but very strange Very wonderful statues but very strange Very wonderful statues but very strange ones. And as he he was he passed away ones. And as he he was he passed away ones. And as he he was he passed away unfortunately as he was a geologist, he unfortunately as he was a geologist, he unfortunately as he was a geologist, he always took some organical material always took some organical material always took some organical material close to the finding of each of the close to the finding of each of the close to the finding of each of the stone statues. And he found out that uh stone statues. And he found out that uh stone statues. And he found out that uh the the new the newest made ones uh were the the new the newest made ones uh were the the new the newest made ones uh were dating up to about 2,500 3,000 m. Mhm. dating up to about 2,500 3,000 m. Mhm. dating up to about 2,500 3,000 m. Mhm. And the oldest one and also for me the And the oldest one and also for me the And the oldest one and also for me the most interesting one was made out by a most interesting one was made out by a most interesting one was made out by a sandstone. It looks for me it's it's sandstone. It looks for me it's it's sandstone. It looks for me it's it's about this size and it looks like a about this size and it looks like a about this size and it looks like a T-Rex. Wow. From from T-Rex. Wow. From from T-Rex. Wow. From from Jurassic. Yeah. Wow. And um the strange Jurassic. Yeah. Wow. And um the strange Jurassic. Yeah. Wow. And um the strange thing was the age dating is thing was the age dating is thing was the age dating is approximately on organic material which approximately on organic material which approximately on organic material which was found together with this statue was found together with this statue was found together with this statue 17,000 years. And when Professor Pony 17,000 years. And when Professor Pony 17,000 years. And when Professor Pony found this figurine, it made a strange found this figurine, it made a strange found this figurine, it made a strange noise. So there must have been something noise. So there must have been something noise. So there must have been something inside. So he did X-ray from all side inside. So he did X-ray from all side inside. So he did X-ray from all side sides of this statue and he saw a hollow

sides of this statue and he saw a hollow sides of this statue and he saw a hollow room inside. Mhm. with a round ball. But room inside. Mhm. with a round ball. But room inside. Mhm. with a round ball. But he didn't know what this ball is. And he he didn't know what this ball is. And he he didn't know what this ball is. And he also could see on the X-ray that once also could see on the X-ray that once also could see on the X-ray that once there was an entrance here and it was there was an entrance here and it was there was an entrance here and it was closed. No, on the front uh where the closed. No, on the front uh where the closed. No, on the front uh where the stomach is and it was closed so stomach is and it was closed so stomach is and it was closed so perfectly that from the surface you perfectly that from the surface you perfectly that from the surface you couldn't see that there once was an couldn't see that there once was an couldn't see that there once was an entrance, but through the X-ray you entrance, but through the X-ray you entrance, but through the X-ray you could see. Exactly. And he asked uh a could see. Exactly. And he asked uh a could see. Exactly. And he asked uh a specialist to open him exactly here. specialist to open him exactly here. specialist to open him exactly here. Mhm. And he took out this uh former Mhm. And he took out this uh former Mhm. And he took out this uh former closing block uh piece. And inside was a closing block uh piece. And inside was a closing block uh piece. And inside was a metal piece. Mhm. And when we got these metal piece. Mhm. And when we got these metal piece. Mhm. And when we got these uh artifacts from him for our exhibition uh artifacts from him for our exhibition uh artifacts from him for our exhibition 2001, 2001, 2001, uh I brought the piece to the natural uh I brought the piece to the natural uh I brought the piece to the natural historical museum in Vienna to do a historical museum in Vienna to do a historical museum in Vienna to do a material check on the stone sandstone material check on the stone sandstone material check on the stone sandstone and on the meta. And the professor and on the meta. And the professor and on the meta. And the professor called me next day and he said, "Uh, Mr.

called me next day and he said, "Uh, Mr. called me next day and he said, "Uh, Mr. Dona, I think somebody did a bad ch bad Dona, I think somebody did a bad ch bad Dona, I think somebody did a bad ch bad choke on you." I said, "Why?" She said choke on you." I said, "Why?" She said choke on you." I said, "Why?" She said because the precise metal ball is because the precise metal ball is because the precise metal ball is chromatically steel. Wow. And chromatic chromatically steel. Wow. And chromatic chromatically steel. Wow. And chromatic steel was found first by an Austrian steel was found first by an Austrian steel was found first by an Austrian 1900 194 or 196 turn of the century. 1900 194 or 196 turn of the century. 1900 194 or 196 turn of the century. Yeah. Yes. So she said somebody did a Yeah. Yes. So she said somebody did a Yeah. Yes. So she said somebody did a bad joke on you. So I called Professor bad joke on you. So I called Professor bad joke on you. So I called Professor Pton and he laughed and he said look I Pton and he laughed and he said look I Pton and he laughed and he said look I don't open a very old statue just don't open a very old statue just don't open a very old statue just because it makes a strange noise. We did because it makes a strange noise. We did because it makes a strange noise. We did the X-rays and he sent me all the X-rays the X-rays and he sent me all the X-rays the X-rays and he sent me all the X-rays from all the sides and you could see from all the sides and you could see from all the sides and you could see that this bulb was already inside before that this bulb was already inside before that this bulb was already inside before the opening of it. So 17,000 years the opening of it. So 17,000 years the opening of it. So 17,000 years chromatically steel. That's another big chromatically steel. That's another big chromatically steel. That's another big question to the science. Who could have question to the science. Who could have question to the science. Who could have been able to do some material which we been able to do some material which we been able to do some material which we found out first time in the last found out first time in the last found out first time in the last century? Wow. Wow. Yeah. I've had the century? Wow. Wow. Yeah. I've had the century? Wow. Wow. Yeah. I've had the pleasure of being to the natural history pleasure of being to the natural history pleasure of being to the natural history museum in Vienna. What an awesome museum in Vienna. What an awesome museum in Vienna. What an awesome collection of materials, metals and you collection of materials, metals and you collection of materials, metals and you know these guys would be the experts. So know these guys would be the experts. So know these guys would be the experts. So uh I mean but chromatical steel I mean I uh I mean but chromatical steel I mean I uh I mean but chromatical steel I mean I think we've had examples of aluminium in think we've had examples of aluminium in think we've had examples of aluminium in China which has been you know not China which has been you know not China which has been you know not existing in any known period. I mean existing in any known period. I mean existing in any known period. I mean aluminium 18th century 1824 or aluminium 18th century 1824 or aluminium 18th century 1824 or something. But but but again coming back something. But but but again coming back something. But but but again coming back to the pieces the nomis of these nomis to the pieces the nomis of these nomis to the pieces the nomis of these nomis they are even this size. Mhm. and very they are even this size. Mhm. and very they are even this size. Mhm. and very strange precise mate. For example, you

strange precise mate. For example, you strange precise mate. For example, you see one black African sitting on an see one black African sitting on an see one black African sitting on an elephant. If you would compare the size elephant. If you would compare the size elephant. If you would compare the size of the elephant and the size of the of the elephant and the size of the of the elephant and the size of the person sitting on it, we raise again up person sitting on it, we raise again up person sitting on it, we raise again up to approximately 6 7 m. Maybe it's to approximately 6 7 m. Maybe it's to approximately 6 7 m. Maybe it's connected with former giants. Could be. connected with former giants. Could be. connected with former giants. Could be. You have in Ireland. In Ireland, wow. You have in Ireland. In Ireland, wow. You have in Ireland. In Ireland, wow. You have the story about a legend about You have the story about a legend about You have the story about a legend about a black giant was coming to Ireland. I a black giant was coming to Ireland. I a black giant was coming to Ireland. I don't know if you know this. No, I do. I don't know if you know this. No, I do. I don't know if you know this. No, I do. I do. I I tried to to find it for you in do. I I tried to to find it for you in do. I I tried to to find it for you in in my uh files. Yeah. And uh some of in my uh files. Yeah. And uh some of in my uh files. Yeah. And uh some of those statues they have the face of a those statues they have the face of a those statues they have the face of a reptile and the body of human. It's reptile and the body of human. It's reptile and the body of human. It's again a very interesting uh thing. And again a very interesting uh thing. And again a very interesting uh thing. And the next thing is connected with the the next thing is connected with the the next thing is connected with the legend of uh the petrified uh sky. He legend of uh the petrified uh sky. He legend of uh the petrified uh sky. He also found always in different layers he also found always in different layers he also found always in different layers he found a blue sky blue rocks from small found a blue sky blue rocks from small found a blue sky blue rocks from small pieces until big pieces. And he gave us pieces until big pieces. And he gave us pieces until big pieces. And he gave us also some of these rocks for our also some of these rocks for our also some of these rocks for our exhibition. It's really a wonderful sky exhibition. It's really a wonderful sky exhibition. It's really a wonderful sky blue color. And we did also material blue color. And we did also material blue color. And we did also material check at the natural historical museum check at the natural historical museum check at the natural historical museum and the result is that it is not a and the result is that it is not a and the result is that it is not a normal stone. It is man-made ceramics.

normal stone. It is man-made ceramics. normal stone. It is man-made ceramics. No, no, it's not ceramic. It's it's it's No, no, it's not ceramic. It's it's it's No, no, it's not ceramic. It's it's it's it looks like a stone like a k stone. it looks like a stone like a k stone. it looks like a stone like a k stone. Wow. Uh but a wonderful blue color. Wow. Wow. Uh but a wonderful blue color. Wow. Wow. Uh but a wonderful blue color. Wow. And it's it it was not able yet to to And it's it it was not able yet to to And it's it it was not able yet to to find out what kind of color they used to find out what kind of color they used to find out what kind of color they used to make this uh blue this blue stones. make this uh blue this blue stones. make this uh blue this blue stones. Crazy. So the legend of the petrified uh Crazy. So the legend of the petrified uh Crazy. So the legend of the petrified uh u sky u sky u sky man-made uh blue stones. Wow. Uh the the man-made uh blue stones. Wow. Uh the the man-made uh blue stones. Wow. Uh the the man-made uh stone statues and the skies man-made uh stone statues and the skies man-made uh stone statues and the skies says the diamonds are the petrified says the diamonds are the petrified says the diamonds are the petrified skies. So a very interesting legend. But skies. So a very interesting legend. But skies. So a very interesting legend. But what kind of uh civilization did all what kind of uh civilization did all what kind of uh civilization did all those pieces is a big question. Well, those pieces is a big question. Well, those pieces is a big question. Well, katical steel is as you say is like katical steel is as you say is like katical steel is as you say is like employing high science, high technology, employing high science, high technology, employing high science, high technology, metal energy. Um yes. So wow, incredibly metal energy. Um yes. So wow, incredibly metal energy. Um yes. So wow, incredibly interesting class. I'm going to talk interesting class. I'm going to talk interesting class. I'm going to talk about one more artifact and we're going about one more artifact and we're going about one more artifact and we're going to take a break and we're going to look to take a break and we're going to look to take a break and we're going to look at these artifacts after the break. And at these artifacts after the break. And at these artifacts after the break. And uh I just want to talk about this well a uh I just want to talk about this well a uh I just want to talk about this well a couple of artifacts. uh the pyramid with couple of artifacts. uh the pyramid with couple of artifacts. uh the pyramid with this allseeing eye and the layers. You this allseeing eye and the layers. You this allseeing eye and the layers. You you've shown this on black light before.

you've shown this on black light before. you've shown this on black light before. That's that's again one of the pieces That's that's again one of the pieces That's that's again one of the pieces from Lana from Ecuador. Incredibly from Lana from Ecuador. Incredibly from Lana from Ecuador. Incredibly interesting this class. Tell us about interesting this class. Tell us about interesting this class. Tell us about this. Yes. Uh it's 20 27 cm uh high the this. Yes. Uh it's 20 27 cm uh high the this. Yes. Uh it's 20 27 cm uh high the pyramid. Uh it has 13 steps and then I pyramid. Uh it has 13 steps and then I pyramid. Uh it has 13 steps and then I inlay the the color of the stone eye inlay the the color of the stone eye inlay the the color of the stone eye inlay is gray. But when you put uh inlay is gray. But when you put uh inlay is gray. But when you put uh ultraviolet light on it, uh the eye ultraviolet light on it, uh the eye ultraviolet light on it, uh the eye looks very very uh brightly looks very very uh brightly looks very very uh brightly uh and it looks like uh the the uh and it looks like uh the the uh and it looks like uh the the astronomers did some photos of the astronomers did some photos of the astronomers did some photos of the so-called the eye of God. Mhm. In in a so-called the eye of God. Mhm. In in a so-called the eye of God. Mhm. In in a star constellation, another um star constellation, another um star constellation, another um constellation. Yeah. And uh it looks uh constellation. Yeah. And uh it looks uh constellation. Yeah. And uh it looks uh a little bit like this. So very strange. a little bit like this. So very strange. a little bit like this. So very strange. And on the bottom of uh this small And on the bottom of uh this small And on the bottom of uh this small pyramid, you have exactly the same pyramid, you have exactly the same pyramid, you have exactly the same writings like uh we found worldwide on writings like uh we found worldwide on writings like uh we found worldwide on stones. And the translation by professor stones. And the translation by professor stones. And the translation by professor Shieldman was um the son of the creator Shieldman was um the son of the creator Shieldman was um the son of the creator comes and you have also in little gold comes and you have also in little gold comes and you have also in little gold plates inlay the Orion constellation on plates inlay the Orion constellation on plates inlay the Orion constellation on the bottom of this pyramid. Wow. Always the bottom of this pyramid. Wow. Always the bottom of this pyramid. Wow. Always the Orion constellation slipping in. or the Orion constellation slipping in. or the Orion constellation slipping in. or is the Orion constellation or the play is the Orion constellation or the play is the Orion constellation or the play Orion and Sirius. Um you talk about Orion and Sirius. Um you talk about Orion and Sirius. Um you talk about these 12 cups, there's like a cup with these 12 cups, there's like a cup with these 12 cups, there's like a cup with 12 little baby ones and that's also one

12 little baby ones and that's also one 12 little baby ones and that's also one that's uh the same artifact. These were that's uh the same artifact. These were that's uh the same artifact. These were also found in the same underground uh also found in the same underground uh also found in the same underground uh cave uh in Ecuador in Lana. So there is cave uh in Ecuador in Lana. So there is cave uh in Ecuador in Lana. So there is one uh big uh jade cup. Mhm. uh which one uh big uh jade cup. Mhm. uh which one uh big uh jade cup. Mhm. uh which has a perfect star constellation inlay has a perfect star constellation inlay has a perfect star constellation inlay uh or in different colors. And uh also uh or in different colors. And uh also uh or in different colors. And uh also these stars if you put ultraviolet light these stars if you put ultraviolet light these stars if you put ultraviolet light on it they are shining very brightly and on it they are shining very brightly and on it they are shining very brightly and uh the strange thing on the big cup is uh the strange thing on the big cup is uh the strange thing on the big cup is that uh inside the cup is very that uh inside the cup is very that uh inside the cup is very magnetical outside nearly nothing. Wow. magnetical outside nearly nothing. Wow. magnetical outside nearly nothing. Wow. only there are three stars building a only there are three stars building a only there are three stars building a triangle. Mhm. Inside in the center of triangle. Mhm. Inside in the center of triangle. Mhm. Inside in the center of this triangle, it's also very this triangle, it's also very this triangle, it's also very magnetical. And I talked with many uh magnetical. And I talked with many uh magnetical. And I talked with many uh geologists and they said it's impossible geologists and they said it's impossible geologists and they said it's impossible if uh if a jade cup includes some u if uh if a jade cup includes some u if uh if a jade cup includes some u iron material, it must be same iron material, it must be same iron material, it must be same magnetically from both side. But this magnetically from both side. But this magnetically from both side. But this big cup is only inside very magnetically big cup is only inside very magnetically big cup is only inside very magnetically and outside nearly nothing. Only in the and outside nearly nothing. Only in the and outside nearly nothing. Only in the center of these three cups. And there center of these three cups. And there center of these three cups. And there are also 12 little cups. And you can see are also 12 little cups. And you can see are also 12 little cups. And you can see that they are handmade. And on each cup that they are handmade. And on each cup that they are handmade. And on each cup is a kind of number which looks like the is a kind of number which looks like the is a kind of number which looks like the Mayan numbers, but it's a little bit Mayan numbers, but it's a little bit Mayan numbers, but it's a little bit different. And you can see that each of

different. And you can see that each of different. And you can see that each of the little cup has a little different the little cup has a little different the little cup has a little different size, but we fill them up completely size, but we fill them up completely size, but we fill them up completely with water. And then carefully we put with water. And then carefully we put with water. And then carefully we put the the little cup water inside the big the the little cup water inside the big the the little cup water inside the big cup. And finally, when you finish with cup. And finally, when you finish with cup. And finally, when you finish with the 12th one, the big cup is again the 12th one, the big cup is again the 12th one, the big cup is again completely precise filled with water. So completely precise filled with water. So completely precise filled with water. So how did they do that? Wow. Very very how did they do that? Wow. Very very how did they do that? Wow. Very very very work. Wow. very work. Wow. very work. Wow. employing good knowledge of weights, employing good knowledge of weights, employing good knowledge of weights, measures and volume and yeah and uh measures and volume and yeah and uh measures and volume and yeah and uh another very interesting piece from the another very interesting piece from the another very interesting piece from the same finding is a hard form stone. The same finding is a hard form stone. The same finding is a hard form stone. The color of the stone is brown and suddenly color of the stone is brown and suddenly color of the stone is brown and suddenly in the center of the heart form uh the in the center of the heart form uh the in the center of the heart form uh the color of the stone changes to black and color of the stone changes to black and color of the stone changes to black and it's it's a little bit damaged but you it's it's a little bit damaged but you it's it's a little bit damaged but you can see a human face with long hair with can see a human face with long hair with can see a human face with long hair with closed eyes and with a long bird and closed eyes and with a long bird and closed eyes and with a long bird and many people to whom I showed uh big many people to whom I showed uh big many people to whom I showed uh big pictures of this piece they immediately pictures of this piece they immediately pictures of this piece they immediately said it looks like the shroud of Tin, said it looks like the shroud of Tin, said it looks like the shroud of Tin, the face of Jesus Christ.

the face of Jesus Christ. the face of Jesus Christ. So I would say now we have one big cup So I would say now we have one big cup So I would say now we have one big cup and we have 12 little cups. Wow. We have and we have 12 little cups. Wow. We have and we have 12 little cups. Wow. We have one heart for stone with a face which one heart for stone with a face which one heart for stone with a face which looks like uh the face of Jesus Christ looks like uh the face of Jesus Christ looks like uh the face of Jesus Christ on the shroud of Dimin. Mhm. Then you on the shroud of Dimin. Mhm. Then you on the shroud of Dimin. Mhm. Then you have one big stone block with a world have one big stone block with a world have one big stone block with a world map. Mhm. Showing two uh continents map. Mhm. Showing two uh continents map. Mhm. Showing two uh continents which do not exist or not existing in which do not exist or not existing in which do not exist or not existing in this form in our days. And on this world this form in our days. And on this world this form in our days. And on this world stone map you have an eye inlay in the stone map you have an eye inlay in the stone map you have an eye inlay in the Middle East approximately where there is Syria in this area. So if I would is Syria in this area. So if I would like to make a sensational story but not like to make a sensational story but not like to make a sensational story but not correct, I would say maybe this is the correct, I would say maybe this is the correct, I would say maybe this is the cry uh from Jesus, the holy grail and cry uh from Jesus, the holy grail and cry uh from Jesus, the holy grail and because you have 12 little cups, you because you have 12 little cups, you because you have 12 little cups, you have one big cup, you have a heart form have one big cup, you have a heart form have one big cup, you have a heart form stone with a face which looks like the stone with a face which looks like the stone with a face which looks like the shroud of toin but for me those shroud of toin but for me those shroud of toin but for me those artifacts are older than at least 10 artifacts are older than at least 10 artifacts are older than at least 10 12,000 years. Sure. So what kind of 12,000 years. Sure. So what kind of 12,000 years. Sure. So what kind of connection could be, could not be? I connection could be, could not be? I connection could be, could not be? I don't know.

don't know. don't know. Claus, just show the audience a copy of Claus, just show the audience a copy of Claus, just show the audience a copy of your DVD if people want to get a copy. your DVD if people want to get a copy. your DVD if people want to get a copy. Uh many people always ask me if I don't Uh many people always ask me if I don't Uh many people always ask me if I don't have a book. Mhm. But uh unfortunately I have a book. Mhm. But uh unfortunately I have a book. Mhm. But uh unfortunately I cannot spend five, six months sitting cannot spend five, six months sitting cannot spend five, six months sitting writing on the computer and writing the writing on the computer and writing the writing on the computer and writing the book. I have tons of material. One day book. I have tons of material. One day book. I have tons of material. One day when when I'm getting a little bit more when when I'm getting a little bit more when when I'm getting a little bit more quiet, I would write a book. But a quiet, I would write a book. But a quiet, I would write a book. But a friend of mine did uh a DVD with many of friend of mine did uh a DVD with many of friend of mine did uh a DVD with many of these strange artifacts these strange artifacts these strange artifacts uh and uh also some explanations uh and uh also some explanations uh and uh also some explanations and uh it's called uh Clona Chronicles and uh it's called uh Clona Chronicles and uh it's called uh Clona Chronicles and soon I think we try to do a second and soon I think we try to do a second and soon I think we try to do a second one. Uh but we have to go to some of the one. Uh but we have to go to some of the one. Uh but we have to go to some of the places because the most interesting places because the most interesting places because the most interesting pieces uh are in South America and even pieces uh are in South America and even pieces uh are in South America and even in Europe in some places. So there's a in Europe in some places. So there's a in Europe in some places. So there's a lot to do still. Okay. And where can we lot to do still. Okay. And where can we lot to do still. Okay. And where can we get a copy on your website? Uh you can get a copy on your website? Uh you can get a copy on your website? Uh you can get a copy on on Amazon. Mhm. And your get a copy on on Amazon. Mhm. And your get a copy on on Amazon. Mhm. And your what is your website? Unsolved. Uh my what is your website? Unsolved. Uh my what is your website? Unsolved. Uh my website is uh www.unsolved website is uh www.unsolved website is uh www.unsolved unsolved uh mystery unsolved unsolved uh mystery unsolved unsolved uh mystery unsolved mysteries.info info. Okay, beautiful.

mysteries.info info. Okay, beautiful. mysteries.info info. Okay, beautiful. But I have to say also the website is But I have to say also the website is But I have to say also the website is already old. I think 8 years and uh some already old. I think 8 years and uh some already old. I think 8 years and uh some friends offered me to help me to do me a friends offered me to help me to do me a friends offered me to help me to do me a new one with many many of the new new one with many many of the new new one with many many of the new informations. Wow. We're going to take a informations. Wow. We're going to take a informations. Wow. We're going to take a break and then we're going to come back break and then we're going to come back break and then we're going to come back and look at these wonderful interesting and look at these wonderful interesting and look at these wonderful interesting artifacts. We're going to talk giants artifacts. We're going to talk giants artifacts. We're going to talk giants and crystal skulls and lite tools uh and and crystal skulls and lite tools uh and and crystal skulls and lite tools uh and the sakara bird of course and the the sakara bird of course and the the sakara bird of course and the genetic disc which I've been saving. So genetic disc which I've been saving. So genetic disc which I've been saving. So uh we'll come back in just a moment and uh we'll come back in just a moment and uh we'll come back in just a moment and we'll have a little break. Yeah. Hi Claus. You're very welcome back to Hi Claus. You're very welcome back to Capricorn TV. Here we are again and Capricorn TV. Here we are again and Capricorn TV. Here we are again and we're going to talk about the artifacts we're going to talk about the artifacts we're going to talk about the artifacts we've been looking at on the table. Um I we've been looking at on the table. Um I we've been looking at on the table. Um I think as a anthropomorphic discussion think as a anthropomorphic discussion think as a anthropomorphic discussion that the skull and the bones is probably that the skull and the bones is probably that the skull and the bones is probably something the most interesting to jump something the most interesting to jump something the most interesting to jump into. Um we were talking about joints into. Um we were talking about joints into. Um we were talking about joints earlier. Yeah. We have two incredible earlier. Yeah. We have two incredible earlier. Yeah. We have two incredible bones sitting on the table which I've bones sitting on the table which I've bones sitting on the table which I've had the previous uh examination of had the previous uh examination of had the previous uh examination of before the show and before the show and before the show and uh start with the heelbone. I think this uh start with the heelbone. I think this uh start with the heelbone. I think this is incredible.

is incredible. is incredible. Yeah. Um several years ago I saw on uh a Yeah. Um several years ago I saw on uh a Yeah. Um several years ago I saw on uh a Brazilian website Mhm. an information Brazilian website Mhm. an information Brazilian website Mhm. an information about uh father Carlos Baka a priest about uh father Carlos Baka a priest about uh father Carlos Baka a priest from Ecuador that he found 1964 the from Ecuador that he found 1964 the from Ecuador that he found 1964 the bones broken bones of a human giant with bones broken bones of a human giant with bones broken bones of a human giant with the size of 7.6 m. So I thought I had the size of 7.6 m. So I thought I had the size of 7.6 m. So I thought I had the feeling there is something reality the feeling there is something reality the feeling there is something reality behind this information because you know behind this information because you know behind this information because you know there's a lot of wrong information also there's a lot of wrong information also there's a lot of wrong information also on internet. So I tried to get a contact on internet. So I tried to get a contact on internet. So I tried to get a contact with father Carlos Waka. It took me with father Carlos Waka. It took me with father Carlos Waka. It took me several years and on one of my trips to several years and on one of my trips to several years and on one of my trips to Ecuador Ecuador Ecuador uh we visited the province Loha because uh we visited the province Loha because uh we visited the province Loha because in the report there was only written in the report there was only written in the report there was only written that uh father Carlos Vaka from Loha and that uh father Carlos Vaka from Loha and that uh father Carlos Vaka from Loha and I didn't know at that time that Loka is I didn't know at that time that Loka is I didn't know at that time that Loka is a province and also the capital city. So a province and also the capital city. So a province and also the capital city. So we went to Loca and we arrived uh late we went to Loca and we arrived uh late we went to Loca and we arrived uh late in the evening. I didn't find the hotel in the evening. I didn't find the hotel in the evening. I didn't find the hotel which I was supposed to stay. So we just which I was supposed to stay. So we just which I was supposed to stay. So we just stopped at the place and uh after taking stopped at the place and uh after taking stopped at the place and uh after taking a shower I went to the lobby and I asked a shower I went to the lobby and I asked a shower I went to the lobby and I asked the the lady there if she knows a father the the lady there if she knows a father the the lady there if she knows a father Carlos Vaka and she said no she doesn't Carlos Vaka and she said no she doesn't Carlos Vaka and she said no she doesn't know but um there is an office from the know but um there is an office from the know but um there is an office from the Franciscan church uh church next to the Franciscan church uh church next to the Franciscan church uh church next to the to the church and they have all the to the church and they have all the to the church and they have all the datas uh from all the priests in datas uh from all the priests in datas uh from all the priests in Ecuador. So I went next morning 9:00 Ecuador. So I went next morning 9:00 Ecuador. So I went next morning 9:00 there and we asked if they can tell us

there and we asked if they can tell us there and we asked if they can tell us uh where I can find father Kosaka. Uh uh where I can find father Kosaka. Uh uh where I can find father Kosaka. Uh the lady there she didn't know the name. the lady there she didn't know the name. the lady there she didn't know the name. So I thought maybe it was a hoax on the So I thought maybe it was a hoax on the So I thought maybe it was a hoax on the internet but she said she will search internet but she said she will search internet but she said she will search for it and after a while she came back for it and after a while she came back for it and after a while she came back and she said yes she found him. Mhm. But and she said yes she found him. Mhm. But and she said yes she found him. Mhm. But she has has to inform us that he passed she has has to inform us that he passed she has has to inform us that he passed away exactly 1 month before. Oh my god. away exactly 1 month before. Oh my god. away exactly 1 month before. Oh my god. So I asked her if she knows where he was So I asked her if she knows where he was So I asked her if she knows where he was working and she said, "Yeah, he worked working and she said, "Yeah, he worked working and she said, "Yeah, he worked uh the last years in the hospital in uh the last years in the hospital in uh the last years in the hospital in Lan." So we went there and I asked uh if Lan." So we went there and I asked uh if Lan." So we went there and I asked uh if they can give me some information about they can give me some information about they can give me some information about Father Carlos Vaka and no coincidence, Father Carlos Vaka and no coincidence, Father Carlos Vaka and no coincidence, the man there said, "Oh, there were the man there said, "Oh, there were the man there said, "Oh, there were about 50 taxis outside." But he looked about 50 taxis outside." But he looked about 50 taxis outside." But he looked and he said the taxi driver from the and he said the taxi driver from the and he said the taxi driver from the first car he every day he brought father first car he every day he brought father first car he every day he brought father Carlos back uh to his home. So I just Carlos back uh to his home. So I just Carlos back uh to his home. So I just entered to the taxi and I said please entered to the taxi and I said please entered to the taxi and I said please bring me to the house of father Carlos bring me to the house of father Carlos bring me to the house of father Carlos Vaka and he brought us there and his Vaka and he brought us there and his Vaka and he brought us there and his niece his brother's uh uh daughter she niece his brother's uh uh daughter she niece his brother's uh uh daughter she was living there with uh her family and was living there with uh her family and was living there with uh her family and this was also the home stay for father this was also the home stay for father this was also the home stay for father Carlos Waka and she said yes uh she Carlos Waka and she said yes uh she Carlos Waka and she said yes uh she invited us for a coffee and she told us invited us for a coffee and she told us invited us for a coffee and she told us that her uncle passed away a month ago that her uncle passed away a month ago that her uncle passed away a month ago and then she showed us uh a lot of bones and then she showed us uh a lot of bones and then she showed us uh a lot of bones which he found 1964 which he found 1964 which he found 1964 uh on a place uh which is called in in

uh on a place uh which is called in in uh on a place uh which is called in in the indigenous in the Imara language the indigenous in the Imara language the indigenous in the Imara language since EBA the cemetery of the giants. since EBA the cemetery of the giants. since EBA the cemetery of the giants. It's a very very tiny wall uh in the It's a very very tiny wall uh in the It's a very very tiny wall uh in the south of the province Loa and uh one south of the province Loa and uh one south of the province Loa and uh one night there was a heavy heavy night there was a heavy heavy night there was a heavy heavy thunderstorm and the part of this thunderstorm and the part of this thunderstorm and the part of this so-called uh cemetery of the giants was so-called uh cemetery of the giants was so-called uh cemetery of the giants was broken down and next morning they saw a broken down and next morning they saw a broken down and next morning they saw a lot of broken bones but very big ones lot of broken bones but very big ones lot of broken bones but very big ones and they called immediately father and they called immediately father and they called immediately father Carlos Waka that he should look at the Carlos Waka that he should look at the Carlos Waka that he should look at the bones and he came and he inspected them bones and he came and he inspected them bones and he came and he inspected them and he definitely identif ified them as and he definitely identif ified them as and he definitely identif ified them as human bones and this human must have human bones and this human must have human bones and this human must have been the size must have had the size of been the size must have had the size of been the size must have had the size of 7.6 m. So I asked them if I can bring 7.6 m. So I asked them if I can bring 7.6 m. So I asked them if I can bring some of the bones for research to some of the bones for research to some of the bones for research to Vienna. Vienna. Vienna. One of them could be identified this one One of them could be identified this one One of them could be identified this one as a human heelbone. But they even some as a human heelbone. But they even some as a human heelbone. But they even some experts did a comparison with normal experts did a comparison with normal experts did a comparison with normal human heelbone and this one they said it human heelbone and this one they said it human heelbone and this one they said it looks exactly the same. Mhm. But it's looks exactly the same. Mhm. But it's looks exactly the same. Mhm. But it's impossible because this is five times impossible because this is five times impossible because this is five times bigger. Five times bigger. And also this bigger. Five times bigger. And also this bigger. Five times bigger. And also this bone was identified. It looks like a bone was identified. It looks like a bone was identified. It looks like a human human human occipital which we have two under our occipital which we have two under our occipital which we have two under our skull that we are able to move. So we skull that we are able to move. So we skull that we are able to move. So we rotate the school balanced on these two rotate the school balanced on these two rotate the school balanced on these two goals also five times bigger. But uh we goals also five times bigger. But uh we goals also five times bigger. But uh we also found uh a documentation from Ka

also found uh a documentation from Ka also found uh a documentation from Ka DeLeon. He was a historian for the DeLeon. He was a historian for the DeLeon. He was a historian for the concistadors and he wrote uh concistadors and he wrote uh concistadors and he wrote uh 1573 I think it was. He wrote in one of 1573 I think it was. He wrote in one of 1573 I think it was. He wrote in one of his documentation, "Today we found at his documentation, "Today we found at his documentation, "Today we found at the coast of Esmeraldas, which is the the coast of Esmeraldas, which is the the coast of Esmeraldas, which is the Pacific Ocean, Ecuadorian coast, we Pacific Ocean, Ecuadorian coast, we Pacific Ocean, Ecuadorian coast, we found today five uh several human found today five uh several human found today five uh several human skeletons, they were five times bigger skeletons, they were five times bigger skeletons, they were five times bigger than we were." Wow. So if you calculate than we were." Wow. So if you calculate than we were." Wow. So if you calculate that the Spanish guy at this time was that the Spanish guy at this time was that the Spanish guy at this time was about 150 160 cm, multiply five, you about 150 160 cm, multiply five, you about 150 160 cm, multiply five, you reach over 7.5 m. and an interesting reach over 7.5 m. and an interesting reach over 7.5 m. and an interesting photo I received from photo I received from photo I received from u uh Manuel, he's a Ecuadorian u uh Manuel, he's a Ecuadorian u uh Manuel, he's a Ecuadorian researcher and he went several times researcher and he went several times researcher and he went several times into the quasa stios which I mentioned into the quasa stios which I mentioned into the quasa stios which I mentioned before the huge underground tunnel before the huge underground tunnel before the huge underground tunnel system in Ecuador and um he sent me a system in Ecuador and um he sent me a system in Ecuador and um he sent me a picture of a big hole and a huge picture of a big hole and a huge picture of a big hole and a huge entrance entrance entrance uh from the qua de los. And when I saw uh from the qua de los. And when I saw uh from the qua de los. And when I saw the picture, I saw on the right side of the picture, I saw on the right side of the picture, I saw on the right side of the entrance a huge man or or human. So the entrance a huge man or or human. So the entrance a huge man or or human. So I called him on Skype and said, "Manuel, I called him on Skype and said, "Manuel, I called him on Skype and said, "Manuel, is the right uh person next to the door, is the right uh person next to the door, is the right uh person next to the door, is this uh a man from the expedition?"

is this uh a man from the expedition?" is this uh a man from the expedition?" And he was laughing. He said, "No, this And he was laughing. He said, "No, this And he was laughing. He said, "No, this is a wall painting." And the little is a wall painting." And the little is a wall painting." And the little black thing next to it, that's my friend black thing next to it, that's my friend black thing next to it, that's my friend just saying next to the wall painting. just saying next to the wall painting. just saying next to the wall painting. Wow. And he said this wall painting a Wow. And he said this wall painting a Wow. And he said this wall painting a human is 7.5 m tall. So if you see this human is 7.5 m tall. So if you see this human is 7.5 m tall. So if you see this picture and you can imagine uh normal picture and you can imagine uh normal picture and you can imagine uh normal people would never ever had been able to people would never ever had been able to people would never ever had been able to do such a huge hole with huge entrance do such a huge hole with huge entrance do such a huge hole with huge entrance in the quello. So that means it's in the quello. So that means it's in the quello. So that means it's connected with the real giants. Wow. connected with the real giants. Wow. connected with the real giants. Wow. Incredibly interesting. Claus, I've had Incredibly interesting. Claus, I've had Incredibly interesting. Claus, I've had the pleasure of holding this skull. Uh the pleasure of holding this skull. Uh the pleasure of holding this skull. Uh if you show that to the audience, Claus, if you show that to the audience, Claus, if you show that to the audience, Claus, it's it's my hands are quite big, but it it's it's my hands are quite big, but it it's it's my hands are quite big, but it does fit in the palm of the hand of of does fit in the palm of the hand of of does fit in the palm of the hand of of myself. Anyway, and uh it's quite heavy myself. Anyway, and uh it's quite heavy myself. Anyway, and uh it's quite heavy too. It's made of quartz. Uh maybe just too. It's made of quartz. Uh maybe just too. It's made of quartz. Uh maybe just describe it and and the story of where describe it and and the story of where describe it and and the story of where you how you came to possess it as well. you how you came to possess it as well. you how you came to possess it as well. Uh 3 years ago, I had a conference in Uh 3 years ago, I had a conference in Uh 3 years ago, I had a conference in Germany with together with Nasim Haram, Germany with together with Nasim Haram, Germany with together with Nasim Haram, the famous physicist from Hawaii. And I the famous physicist from Hawaii. And I the famous physicist from Hawaii. And I know him already since 2010. We are good know him already since 2010. We are good know him already since 2010. We are good friends. And he brought me this sky and friends. And he brought me this sky and friends. And he brought me this sky and said I can keep this sky here and if I said I can keep this sky here and if I said I can keep this sky here and if I do one day again an exhibition I can do one day again an exhibition I can do one day again an exhibition I can display this sky. And he told me this display this sky. And he told me this display this sky. And he told me this story. A young man gave him this sky. Uh story. A young man gave him this sky. Uh story. A young man gave him this sky. Uh and uh the story says that all the and uh the story says that all the and uh the story says that all the former owners who bought this sky got former owners who bought this sky got former owners who bought this sky got very bad luck and the young guy bought very bad luck and the young guy bought very bad luck and the young guy bought this guy and uh after one month his

this guy and uh after one month his this guy and uh after one month his fiance passed away. So he gave this guy fiance passed away. So he gave this guy fiance passed away. So he gave this guy to Nasim and he said he doesn't want to to Nasim and he said he doesn't want to to Nasim and he said he doesn't want to have this guy anymore. But of course have this guy anymore. But of course have this guy anymore. But of course James you can imagine when he told me James you can imagine when he told me James you can imagine when he told me the story immediately I I told Nasim the story immediately I I told Nasim the story immediately I I told Nasim look Nasim I don't want to to to keep look Nasim I don't want to to to keep look Nasim I don't want to to to keep this uh I I don't want to own this this uh I I don't want to own this this uh I I don't want to own this skull. I just keep it here custody and skull. I just keep it here custody and skull. I just keep it here custody and we promise that whenever we find out uh we promise that whenever we find out uh we promise that whenever we find out uh where this skull belongs, we will bring where this skull belongs, we will bring where this skull belongs, we will bring him back because I think it's part of a him back because I think it's part of a him back because I think it's part of a grave robbery. That's why the the real grave robbery. That's why the the real grave robbery. That's why the the real owners they bought it had a bad luck. owners they bought it had a bad luck. owners they bought it had a bad luck. And uh the skull itself has uh an end And uh the skull itself has uh an end And uh the skull itself has uh an end carving on top which shows Kelquat the carving on top which shows Kelquat the carving on top which shows Kelquat the feathered god. And also it has a feathered god. And also it has a feathered god. And also it has a cor crystization crystization here which cor crystization crystization here which cor crystization crystization here which I asked several archeologists and they I asked several archeologists and they I asked several archeologists and they told me this sky must have been long told me this sky must have been long told me this sky must have been long long time under the earth and I brought long time under the earth and I brought long time under the earth and I brought this sky to Paris to a conference where this sky to Paris to a conference where this sky to Paris to a conference where also uh Humbut's man the famous elders also uh Humbut's man the famous elders also uh Humbut's man the famous elders of the Mayan was there and in the of the Mayan was there and in the of the Mayan was there and in the evening when I showed him this sky he evening when I showed him this sky he evening when I showed him this sky he was very much impressed and he meditated was very much impressed and he meditated was very much impressed and he meditated about 15 minutes and then he told about 15 minutes and then he told about 15 minutes and then he told me this is one of the most import,000 years which uh means the

import,000 years which uh means the geologists uh are right if they say he geologists uh are right if they say he geologists uh are right if they say he must have been many many thousands years must have been many many thousands years must have been many many thousands years under the ground and this guy has a under the ground and this guy has a under the ground and this guy has a wonderful energy that's what people tell wonderful energy that's what people tell wonderful energy that's what people tell me uh one day I had a friend of mine me uh one day I had a friend of mine me uh one day I had a friend of mine coming here he is one of the three coming here he is one of the three coming here he is one of the three European Zen masters and he's very European Zen masters and he's very European Zen masters and he's very sensitive feeling man and he was sitting sensitive feeling man and he was sitting sensitive feeling man and he was sitting here in this room and suddenly he here in this room and suddenly he here in this room and suddenly he started nipping with his feet and I started nipping with his feet and I started nipping with his feet and I thought he's a little bit nervous and thought he's a little bit nervous and thought he's a little bit nervous and suddenly he asked me Claus what do you suddenly he asked me Claus what do you suddenly he asked me Claus what do you have in your house and I said what shall have in your house and I said what shall have in your house and I said what shall I have in my house he said you have I have in my house he said you have I have in my house he said you have something with a very very strong energy something with a very very strong energy something with a very very strong energy I can feel it I said I don't have I can feel it I said I don't have I can feel it I said I don't have anything and suddenly I remembered maybe anything and suddenly I remembered maybe anything and suddenly I remembered maybe the skull. So I went up to my sleeping the skull. So I went up to my sleeping the skull. So I went up to my sleeping room because he is uh in my sleeping room because he is uh in my sleeping room because he is uh in my sleeping room just looking to my bed. So I room just looking to my bed. So I room just looking to my bed. So I brought him out of the room and he brought him out of the room and he brought him out of the room and he couldn't see it yet but he said yeah couldn't see it yet but he said yeah couldn't see it yet but he said yeah that's it. I feel the energy is getting that's it. I feel the energy is getting that's it. I feel the energy is getting stronger. So when I brought this guy stronger. So when I brought this guy stronger. So when I brought this guy down here he just said it's incredible down here he just said it's incredible down here he just said it's incredible wonderful but very strong energy. He wonderful but very strong energy. He wonderful but very strong energy. He asked me do you keep this guy at home? I asked me do you keep this guy at home? I asked me do you keep this guy at home? I said yeah why it's in my sleeping room.

said yeah why it's in my sleeping room. said yeah why it's in my sleeping room. He said, "No, you are kidding. I He said, "No, you are kidding. I He said, "No, you are kidding. I couldn't sleep even one second with this couldn't sleep even one second with this couldn't sleep even one second with this guy in my room. I don't feel guy in my room. I don't feel guy in my room. I don't feel energy." But uh people who are energy." But uh people who are energy." But uh people who are sensitive, they can feel that this guy sensitive, they can feel that this guy sensitive, they can feel that this guy is really something special. Wow. And I is really something special. Wow. And I is really something special. Wow. And I like him and he didn't bring me bad like him and he didn't bring me bad like him and he didn't bring me bad luck. No, friend of mine. And the luck. No, friend of mine. And the luck. No, friend of mine. And the promise stays whenever someone can promise stays whenever someone can promise stays whenever someone can really help me to find out where he really help me to find out where he really help me to find out where he belongs, then he will go back. There's belongs, then he will go back. There's belongs, then he will go back. There's beautiful quartz veins in it and and the beautiful quartz veins in it and and the beautiful quartz veins in it and and the eyes are made of jade. Is that correct? eyes are made of jade. Is that correct? eyes are made of jade. Is that correct? Yes. Uh man also told me that this is Yes. Uh man also told me that this is Yes. Uh man also told me that this is the same jade they found in the dome of the same jade they found in the dome of the same jade they found in the dome of Pakist. Pakist. Pakist. Yes. Wow. Wow. Cuz you've looked at many Yes. Wow. Wow. Cuz you've looked at many Yes. Wow. Wow. Cuz you've looked at many skulls, haven't you, in class? You've skulls, haven't you, in class? You've skulls, haven't you, in class? You've been Oh, yeah. I saw many many of them. been Oh, yeah. I saw many many of them. been Oh, yeah. I saw many many of them. Um and uh I had experiences with skulls Um and uh I had experiences with skulls Um and uh I had experiences with skulls because I was always skeptical when some because I was always skeptical when some because I was always skeptical when some people told me the skulls they have some people told me the skulls they have some people told me the skulls they have some informations and everything. I thought informations and everything. I thought informations and everything. I thought could be, could not be. And one day in could be, could not be. And one day in could be, could not be. And one day in Switzerland when we had the exhibition Switzerland when we had the exhibition Switzerland when we had the exhibition 2004, 2004, 2004, uh a Russian shaman, a great lady called uh a Russian shaman, a great lady called uh a Russian shaman, a great lady called Nenina, she went there and she asked if Nenina, she went there and she asked if Nenina, she went there and she asked if she can go with me after closing through she can go with me after closing through she can go with me after closing through the exhibition and she can give me some the exhibition and she can give me some the exhibition and she can give me some more informations on some of the more informations on some of the more informations on some of the artifacts which she did. Mhm. And uh you artifacts which she did. Mhm. And uh you artifacts which she did. Mhm. And uh you know in an exhibition you cannot write a know in an exhibition you cannot write a know in an exhibition you cannot write a long story to each artifact. You just long story to each artifact. You just long story to each artifact. You just compress it. But she could tell me a lot

compress it. But she could tell me a lot compress it. But she could tell me a lot of things which I knew already but which of things which I knew already but which of things which I knew already but which were not on display. So I knew that this were not on display. So I knew that this were not on display. So I knew that this lady is really something special. And lady is really something special. And lady is really something special. And then we ended up in front of the crystal then we ended up in front of the crystal then we ended up in front of the crystal skies. We presented uh six very old skies. We presented uh six very old skies. We presented uh six very old original crystal skies in the original crystal skies in the original crystal skies in the exhibition. And uh there was one uh jade exhibition. And uh there was one uh jade exhibition. And uh there was one uh jade sky from Mongolia this size. And in sky from Mongolia this size. And in sky from Mongolia this size. And in front of this sky she went into uh front of this sky she went into uh front of this sky she went into uh meditation. Then she spoke in a language meditation. Then she spoke in a language meditation. Then she spoke in a language which I never heard before. And then she which I never heard before. And then she which I never heard before. And then she uh spoke in Russian to the translator uh spoke in Russian to the translator uh spoke in Russian to the translator and the translator told me uh she got and the translator told me uh she got and the translator told me uh she got two informations. two informations. two informations. The first information is for me. She The first information is for me. She The first information is for me. She said in the near future you will said in the near future you will said in the near future you will excavate many things worldwide but you excavate many things worldwide but you excavate many things worldwide but you have to leave the earth after excavation have to leave the earth after excavation have to leave the earth after excavation in a good condition. At this time James in a good condition. At this time James in a good condition. At this time James I'm not an archaeologist. I had no idea I'm not an archaeologist. I had no idea I'm not an archaeologist. I had no idea of doing any time anywhere any of doing any time anywhere any of doing any time anywhere any excavation but you know with the new excavation but you know with the new excavation but you know with the new technology now we are ready to start uh technology now we are ready to start uh technology now we are ready to start uh excavations. And the second most excavations. And the second most excavations. And the second most important uh information was in a few important uh information was in a few important uh information was in a few days a big wave will kill 100 thousands days a big wave will kill 100 thousands days a big wave will kill 100 thousands of people. And you remember this was in of people. And you remember this was in of people. And you remember this was in November 2004 and on 26th of December November 2004 and on 26th of December November 2004 and on 26th of December was the big tsunami in Southeast Asia.

was the big tsunami in Southeast Asia. was the big tsunami in Southeast Asia. So from that moment on, I'm quite sure So from that moment on, I'm quite sure So from that moment on, I'm quite sure that there are informations in Skypes that there are informations in Skypes that there are informations in Skypes and a friend of mine in Germany and a friend of mine in Germany and a friend of mine in Germany uh he found uh with friends he found uh uh he found uh with friends he found uh uh he found uh with friends he found uh one box one uh wood box covered with one box one uh wood box covered with one box one uh wood box covered with leather box. On the leather box was leather box. On the leather box was leather box. On the leather box was written uh Ottoan. Ottoan was uh a written uh Ottoan. Ottoan was uh a written uh Ottoan. Ottoan was uh a German archaeologist who worked for the German archaeologist who worked for the German archaeologist who worked for the German rife for the for the Himler for German rife for the for the Himler for German rife for the for the Himler for Himmler. He worked for the SS. He did Himmler. He worked for the SS. He did Himmler. He worked for the SS. He did researches a lot of researches in Renley researches a lot of researches in Renley researches a lot of researches in Renley Chateau and in Mo because they were they Chateau and in Mo because they were they Chateau and in Mo because they were they were searching for the Holy Grail and were searching for the Holy Grail and were searching for the Holy Grail and for the informations from the Night for the informations from the Night for the informations from the Night Tempress and the Qatara. Mhm. And uh Tempress and the Qatara. Mhm. And uh Tempress and the Qatara. Mhm. And uh also they found a transport list of the also they found a transport list of the also they found a transport list of the last train from Berlin to Prague. And on last train from Berlin to Prague. And on last train from Berlin to Prague. And on this transport list was this crystal this transport list was this crystal this transport list was this crystal sky. It's a clear uh clear crystal sky sky. It's a clear uh clear crystal sky sky. It's a clear uh clear crystal sky 9.2 kilo. Very heavy. Wow. And it was 9.2 kilo. Very heavy. Wow. And it was 9.2 kilo. Very heavy. Wow. And it was said owner Henry Himla. That means that said owner Henry Himla. That means that said owner Henry Himla. That means that this guy was uh the last owner of this this guy was uh the last owner of this this guy was uh the last owner of this guy was Himla from the SS. And uh I guy was Himla from the SS. And uh I guy was Himla from the SS. And uh I brought this guy to Vienna and the most brought this guy to Vienna and the most brought this guy to Vienna and the most famous expert on crystal work Dr. Rud famous expert on crystal work Dr. Rud famous expert on crystal work Dr. Rud Dberger he did a check on this sky. It

Dberger he did a check on this sky. It Dberger he did a check on this sky. It was just 1 months before he passed away. was just 1 months before he passed away. was just 1 months before he passed away. But as we were very good friends, he did But as we were very good friends, he did But as we were very good friends, he did me a check on this uh sky and he said me a check on this uh sky and he said me a check on this uh sky and he said that Christian is not from South that Christian is not from South that Christian is not from South America. It's European crystal and it's America. It's European crystal and it's America. It's European crystal and it's old handmade and uh he I think therefore old handmade and uh he I think therefore old handmade and uh he I think therefore that this guy was really in the that this guy was really in the that this guy was really in the ownership of the night ownership of the night ownership of the night templan because it was written his name templan because it was written his name templan because it was written his name on the letter box and my friend and two on the letter box and my friend and two on the letter box and my friend and two of his friends technicians they did some of his friends technicians they did some of his friends technicians they did some tests with this clear crystal sky and he tests with this clear crystal sky and he tests with this clear crystal sky and he informed me and he said if he would have informed me and he said if he would have informed me and he said if he would have seen it by only by himself himself. He seen it by only by himself himself. He seen it by only by himself himself. He would have thought that he has a would have thought that he has a would have thought that he has a illusion. But what they saw, they worked illusion. But what they saw, they worked illusion. But what they saw, they worked with laser beams and with sound. And he with laser beams and with sound. And he with laser beams and with sound. And he said suddenly they could see said suddenly they could see said suddenly they could see threedimension a a man riding on a threedimension a a man riding on a threedimension a a man riding on a camera coming to their direction. Then camera coming to their direction. Then camera coming to their direction. Then the man was looking at them. He turned the man was looking at them. He turned the man was looking at them. He turned around and disappeared. And the second around and disappeared. And the second around and disappeared. And the second they could see also threedimension like they could see also threedimension like they could see also threedimension like holography. a lady sleeping and the lady holography. a lady sleeping and the lady holography. a lady sleeping and the lady was opening the eyes looked shocked at was opening the eyes looked shocked at was opening the eyes looked shocked at them and then the picture disappeared them and then the picture disappeared them and then the picture disappeared also. That means that's another sign for also. That means that's another sign for also. That means that's another sign for me that in these or some of these me that in these or some of these me that in these or some of these crystal skies there are really a lot of crystal skies there are really a lot of crystal skies there are really a lot of informations uh stored but we don't know informations uh stored but we don't know informations uh stored but we don't know yet how to take these informations but

yet how to take these informations but yet how to take these informations but uh soon when I have time to see my uh soon when I have time to see my uh soon when I have time to see my friend they will do another test that I friend they will do another test that I friend they will do another test that I can be there and maybe the same thing can be there and maybe the same thing can be there and maybe the same thing happens something we can find out it's happens something we can find out it's happens something we can find out it's very very interesting exciting uh as an very very interesting exciting uh as an very very interesting exciting uh as an engineer I love this Next one, the engineer I love this Next one, the engineer I love this Next one, the Sakara board. Do you have a model of the Sakara board. Do you have a model of the Sakara board. Do you have a model of the Sakara board? Yes. Uh this I got from uh Sakara board? Yes. Uh this I got from uh Sakara board? Yes. Uh this I got from uh u Egypt for our exhibition. u Egypt for our exhibition. u Egypt for our exhibition. Uh Khalil, Mr. Khalil. uh his father uh Uh Khalil, Mr. Khalil. uh his father uh Uh Khalil, Mr. Khalil. uh his father uh found this piece in in the museum and he found this piece in in the museum and he found this piece in in the museum and he discovered that it looks exactly discovered that it looks exactly discovered that it looks exactly like a a plane like like how you call like a a plane like like how you call like a a plane like like how you call the planes without any sliders. Yeah, the planes without any sliders. Yeah, the planes without any sliders. Yeah, like a slider. Yeah. And if you look at like a slider. Yeah. And if you look at like a slider. Yeah. And if you look at this uh it's exactly the same size. It's this uh it's exactly the same size. It's this uh it's exactly the same size. It's a perfect replica even from the same a perfect replica even from the same a perfect replica even from the same piser wood. Mhm. And if you see a bird piser wood. Mhm. And if you see a bird piser wood. Mhm. And if you see a bird never would have his tail like this, he never would have his tail like this, he never would have his tail like this, he wouldn't be able to fly. And also the wouldn't be able to fly. And also the wouldn't be able to fly. And also the wings if you see it's really wings if you see it's really wings if you see it's really aerodynamic. So this is one of the aerodynamic. So this is one of the aerodynamic. So this is one of the pieces really in Egypt which for me pieces really in Egypt which for me pieces really in Egypt which for me looks like it's it's a good example of looks like it's it's a good example of looks like it's it's a good example of aeronautical knowledge. Aeronautical aeronautical knowledge. Aeronautical aeronautical knowledge. Aeronautical knowledge. There are many others in knowledge. There are many others in knowledge. There are many others in South America for example at the gold South America for example at the gold South America for example at the gold museum in Bogotaa. little pieces which museum in Bogotaa. little pieces which museum in Bogotaa. little pieces which are also looking like airplanes. And are also looking like airplanes. And are also looking like airplanes. And German inventors, they did precise uh German inventors, they did precise uh German inventors, they did precise uh big models from the small uh pieces and

big models from the small uh pieces and big models from the small uh pieces and uh with a with an ancient with a with a uh with a with an ancient with a with a uh with a with an ancient with a with a motor and they they even could make uh motor and they they even could make uh motor and they they even could make uh turns and everything like a perfect uh turns and everything like a perfect uh turns and everything like a perfect uh airplane. Yeah. So still there are a lot airplane. Yeah. So still there are a lot airplane. Yeah. So still there are a lot of things we have to discover I think. of things we have to discover I think. of things we have to discover I think. Um I want to talk about the genetic disc Um I want to talk about the genetic disc Um I want to talk about the genetic disc next. Uh it's wonderful piece again a next. Uh it's wonderful piece again a next. Uh it's wonderful piece again a replica. Um this is a perfect replica is replica. Um this is a perfect replica is replica. Um this is a perfect replica is back at uh the owner's place professor back at uh the owner's place professor back at uh the owner's place professor Gutierrez in Kata in Colombia. Gutierrez in Kata in Colombia. Gutierrez in Kata in Colombia. Originally it's made out of ludite. It's Originally it's made out of ludite. It's Originally it's made out of ludite. It's made out of leite and uh I had this made out of leite and uh I had this made out of leite and uh I had this piece and also the little ones y at the piece and also the little ones y at the piece and also the little ones y at the natural historical museum at the natural historical museum at the natural historical museum at the minological department for material minological department for material minological department for material check it's proved it's redite it's check it's proved it's redite it's check it's proved it's redite it's proved and Dr. Dislberger. He went with proved and Dr. Dislberger. He went with proved and Dr. Dislberger. He went with me there and he said after checking the me there and he said after checking the me there and he said after checking the material he said he is happy to be here material he said he is happy to be here material he said he is happy to be here to see that the test was done and it's to see that the test was done and it's to see that the test was done and it's definitely Ludite because when he definitely Ludite because when he definitely Ludite because when he checked these pieces very carefully checked these pieces very carefully checked these pieces very carefully especially the little ones which are especially the little ones which are especially the little ones which are designed in in a perfect most perfect designed in in a perfect most perfect designed in in a perfect most perfect way. He said uh he cannot tell me when way. He said uh he cannot tell me when way. He said uh he cannot tell me when these pieces were made. He cannot tell these pieces were made. He cannot tell these pieces were made. He cannot tell me who made it and especially he cannot me who made it and especially he cannot me who made it and especially he cannot tell me how they made it. But what he tell me how they made it. But what he tell me how they made it. But what he could tell me is I can tell you that we could tell me is I can tell you that we could tell me is I can tell you that we are not able to do from the same

are not able to do from the same are not able to do from the same material the same pieces even with our material the same pieces even with our material the same pieces even with our high technology. And the interesting high technology. And the interesting high technology. And the interesting thing is these pieces were found already thing is these pieces were found already thing is these pieces were found already at the end of 1960, beginning of 1970. at the end of 1960, beginning of 1970. at the end of 1960, beginning of 1970. Especially this one was found by street Especially this one was found by street Especially this one was found by street uh working outside Bogotaa underground. uh working outside Bogotaa underground. uh working outside Bogotaa underground. Mhm. And uh the interesting thing is Mhm. And uh the interesting thing is Mhm. And uh the interesting thing is that you have on this we call it that you have on this we call it that you have on this we call it genetical disc. You have here human egg genetical disc. You have here human egg genetical disc. You have here human egg without and human egg with spermia and without and human egg with spermia and without and human egg with spermia and you have here spermas. That means you you have here spermas. That means you you have here spermas. That means you can see here things which you cannot see can see here things which you cannot see can see here things which you cannot see with your own eyes. You need microscope. with your own eyes. You need microscope. with your own eyes. You need microscope. Microscope. Wow. So whoever did these Microscope. Wow. So whoever did these Microscope. Wow. So whoever did these things we don't know but all these things we don't know but all these things we don't know but all these pieces and especially also on the other pieces and especially also on the other pieces and especially also on the other side here you can see the the side here you can see the the side here you can see the the fetus looks like human fetus embryos fetus looks like human fetus embryos fetus looks like human fetus embryos embryos but the strange thing for me is embryos but the strange thing for me is embryos but the strange thing for me is you have here man male and female and you have here man male and female and you have here man male and female and also you have here male female and also you have here male female and also you have here male female and children. For me the question is if children. For me the question is if children. For me the question is if someone is able to do such a someone is able to do such a someone is able to do such a masterpiece why he is building the human masterpiece why he is building the human masterpiece why he is building the human with very wide heads with big eyes I with very wide heads with big eyes I with very wide heads with big eyes I don't know I mean open question this don't know I mean open question this don't know I mean open question this material the disc itself is precise and

material the disc itself is precise and material the disc itself is precise and uh I had this disc in originary at the uh I had this disc in originary at the uh I had this disc in originary at the exhibition in Switzerland and Nenina exhibition in Switzerland and Nenina exhibition in Switzerland and Nenina also the Russian shaman asked me if she also the Russian shaman asked me if she also the Russian shaman asked me if she would be able to hold this in her hand. would be able to hold this in her hand. would be able to hold this in her hand. So we opened the case and I gave it to So we opened the case and I gave it to So we opened the case and I gave it to her and then she was uh meditating about her and then she was uh meditating about her and then she was uh meditating about at least 20 minutes. She started at least 20 minutes. She started at least 20 minutes. She started sweating and when she came out of the sweating and when she came out of the sweating and when she came out of the meditation she told me this is the gene meditation she told me this is the gene meditation she told me this is the gene code of the earth and there are so many code of the earth and there are so many code of the earth and there are so many informations inside this disc that she informations inside this disc that she informations inside this disc that she alone is not able to get this alone is not able to get this alone is not able to get this information. She would need at least information. She would need at least information. She would need at least four or five like her and then they four or five like her and then they four or five like her and then they might be able to get informations out of might be able to get informations out of might be able to get informations out of this disc. This is one thing. And the this disc. This is one thing. And the this disc. This is one thing. And the other little pieces we have a look at other little pieces we have a look at other little pieces we have a look at here. For example, this one, the blueite here. For example, this one, the blueite here. For example, this one, the blueite is very hard. It's close to to the is very hard. It's close to to the is very hard. It's close to to the hardness of granite. That's nine out of hardness of granite. That's nine out of hardness of granite. That's nine out of 10 on the Moscow. It it is um like like 10 on the Moscow. It it is um like like 10 on the Moscow. It it is um like like the structure is partly like leaves. So the structure is partly like leaves. So the structure is partly like leaves. So it breaks very easily. So Dr. Dberger it breaks very easily. So Dr. Dberger it breaks very easily. So Dr. Dberger told me look at this told me look at this told me look at this this foam. You are quite it's impossible this foam. You are quite it's impossible this foam. You are quite it's impossible to do out of the same material. But the to do out of the same material. But the to do out of the same material. But the design is so precise if you hold it like design is so precise if you hold it like design is so precise if you hold it like this. You can get any little point this. You can get any little point this. You can get any little point directly because it is like your own directly because it is like your own directly because it is like your own fingers. And I think uh these pieces

fingers. And I think uh these pieces fingers. And I think uh these pieces were made for medical medical use work. were made for medical medical use work. were made for medical medical use work. Wow. Precise. Precise. The size Wow. Precise. Precise. The size Wow. Precise. Precise. The size perfectly interference and thumb. I can perfectly interference and thumb. I can perfectly interference and thumb. I can see it fits any hand, any size. If if a see it fits any hand, any size. If if a see it fits any hand, any size. If if a small hand, if a big hand, it always small hand, if a big hand, it always small hand, if a big hand, it always fits exactly your hand. I mean, these fits exactly your hand. I mean, these fits exactly your hand. I mean, these are great pieces. And I've seen pieces are great pieces. And I've seen pieces are great pieces. And I've seen pieces in Egypt that are incredibly interesting in Egypt that are incredibly interesting in Egypt that are incredibly interesting where they use this type of stone like where they use this type of stone like where they use this type of stone like sheet that fractures easily, but they sheet that fractures easily, but they sheet that fractures easily, but they they create the most wonderful shapes they create the most wonderful shapes they create the most wonderful shapes and forms. And you know, as in and forms. And you know, as in and forms. And you know, as in engineering and science, we don't know engineering and science, we don't know engineering and science, we don't know how to do that. You know, it's like it how to do that. You know, it's like it how to do that. You know, it's like it was either soft at one point and melted was either soft at one point and melted was either soft at one point and melted or it's like it's like if it was mala or or it's like it's like if it was mala or or it's like it's like if it was mala or metal or something, you can form the metal or something, you can form the metal or something, you can form the shape easy. But when it's done in stone, shape easy. But when it's done in stone, shape easy. But when it's done in stone, that's that's that's a big question. How that's that's that's a big question. How that's that's that's a big question. How did they do it? Because you can see that did they do it? Because you can see that did they do it? Because you can see that mostly it's exactly the same size. But mostly it's exactly the same size. But mostly it's exactly the same size. But on this end here, some of the material on this end here, some of the material on this end here, some of the material was breaking away, but the master could was breaking away, but the master could was breaking away, but the master could finalize the work. And you can see also finalize the work. And you can see also finalize the work. And you can see also here that very thin parts were breaking here that very thin parts were breaking here that very thin parts were breaking away. That's because of the structure of away. That's because of the structure of away. That's because of the structure of the material. The layers. Yeah. A very the material. The layers. Yeah. A very the material. The layers. Yeah. A very very interesting. One of the most very interesting. One of the most very interesting. One of the most interesting pieces I ever saw. Yeah. I interesting pieces I ever saw. Yeah. I interesting pieces I ever saw. Yeah. I know in Egypt they have sheath vases know in Egypt they have sheath vases know in Egypt they have sheath vases that have a very small neck and a and that have a very small neck and a and that have a very small neck and a and inside is hollow and they don't know how inside is hollow and they don't know how inside is hollow and they don't know how to carve them because you can't carve to carve them because you can't carve to carve them because you can't carve from the inside if you can't get into from the inside if you can't get into from the inside if you can't get into it. So in the same type of the the the it. So in the same type of the the the it. So in the same type of the the the shale or the sheath fractures really

shale or the sheath fractures really shale or the sheath fractures really easy, very hard but fractures easy. So easy, very hard but fractures easy. So easy, very hard but fractures easy. So you've got some uh writing tablets as you've got some uh writing tablets as you've got some uh writing tablets as well. Let's have a look. These are the well. Let's have a look. These are the well. Let's have a look. These are the so-called stones which I said before so-called stones which I said before so-called stones which I said before with this unknown writing which we found with this unknown writing which we found with this unknown writing which we found really all over the world. And these really all over the world. And these really all over the world. And these stones are from the so-called burrows stones are from the so-called burrows stones are from the so-called burrows cave in Illinois in United States. uh a cave in Illinois in United States. uh a cave in Illinois in United States. uh a man found an underground tunnel and he man found an underground tunnel and he man found an underground tunnel and he took out many of these stones uh Russell took out many of these stones uh Russell took out many of these stones uh Russell Burroughs that's why the cave is called Burroughs that's why the cave is called Burroughs that's why the cave is called Burus cave and he brought some of the Burus cave and he brought some of the Burus cave and he brought some of the stones some of the material to museums stones some of the material to museums stones some of the material to museums but they immediately told him this is a but they immediately told him this is a but they immediately told him this is a hoax so finally he took out thousands of hoax so finally he took out thousands of hoax so finally he took out thousands of these stones and he sold them uh to these stones and he sold them uh to these stones and he sold them uh to friends and other people uh the the for friends and other people uh the the for friends and other people uh the the for me interesting thing is of course the me interesting thing is of course the me interesting thing is of course the writing itself and the Second thing is writing itself and the Second thing is writing itself and the Second thing is that you have stones with black African that you have stones with black African that you have stones with black African for example. You have stones with for example. You have stones with for example. You have stones with Mongolians like this one. So you can see Mongolians like this one. So you can see Mongolians like this one. So you can see on the burst cave stones all people from on the burst cave stones all people from on the burst cave stones all people from all over the world from the past. So all over the world from the past. So all over the world from the past. So that means that means that means uh the persons who did these stones they uh the persons who did these stones they uh the persons who did these stones they must have had a global connection must have had a global connection must have had a global connection otherwise they would not be able to make otherwise they would not be able to make otherwise they would not be able to make portrays of persons from worldwide portrays of persons from worldwide portrays of persons from worldwide different uh people tribes or different uh people tribes or different uh people tribes or civilizations. Wow. This is this is also civilizations. Wow. This is this is also civilizations. Wow. This is this is also one of the most interesting places and

one of the most interesting places and one of the most interesting places and Wayne May the publisher of ancient Wayne May the publisher of ancient Wayne May the publisher of ancient American magazine. Oh yeah. He is doing American magazine. Oh yeah. He is doing American magazine. Oh yeah. He is doing the researches of Burus cave. Mhm. They the researches of Burus cave. Mhm. They the researches of Burus cave. Mhm. They did uh already with allowance of the of did uh already with allowance of the of did uh already with allowance of the of the ground owner they did some drills the ground owner they did some drills the ground owner they did some drills and they could get the tunnel system but and they could get the tunnel system but and they could get the tunnel system but whenever they did a drill it was filled whenever they did a drill it was filled whenever they did a drill it was filled with water and uh and u uh earth. So with water and uh and u uh earth. So with water and uh and u uh earth. So that's impossible to do any excavation that's impossible to do any excavation that's impossible to do any excavation on these sites. So he gave up. But I on these sites. So he gave up. But I on these sites. So he gave up. But I informed him already that uh my friend informed him already that uh my friend informed him already that uh my friend did a scan over the Burough Cave area did a scan over the Burough Cave area did a scan over the Burough Cave area and he could even show me exactly where and he could even show me exactly where and he could even show me exactly where there is water inside and it's only a there is water inside and it's only a there is water inside and it's only a small part of the huge tunnel system is small part of the huge tunnel system is small part of the huge tunnel system is underwater. The rest is still dry and uh underwater. The rest is still dry and uh underwater. The rest is still dry and uh hopefully Wayne may will continue hopefully Wayne may will continue hopefully Wayne may will continue because what Russell Burroughs wrote in because what Russell Burroughs wrote in because what Russell Burroughs wrote in his book about Burus gave what he found his book about Burus gave what he found his book about Burus gave what he found is uh golden sarcophagus inside this and is uh golden sarcophagus inside this and is uh golden sarcophagus inside this and he also described overmansiz statues he also described overmansiz statues he also described overmansiz statues with the precious stones and on our scan with the precious stones and on our scan with the precious stones and on our scan we could see that there is gold inside we could see that there is gold inside we could see that there is gold inside and there are also precious stones and there are also precious stones and there are also precious stones inside. So that means he was right when inside. So that means he was right when inside. So that means he was right when he explained. But then the next question he explained. But then the next question he explained. But then the next question is who made this underground thunder is who made this underground thunder is who made this underground thunder system? Who brought golden sarcophagus system? Who brought golden sarcophagus system? Who brought golden sarcophagus inside? So that's the next question

inside? So that's the next question inside? So that's the next question which will appear. But for me most which will appear. But for me most which will appear. But for me most interesting is that he described that interesting is that he described that interesting is that he described that there are hundreds of paparos inside there are hundreds of paparos inside there are hundreds of paparos inside also and that would be very very also and that would be very very also and that would be very very interesting to do a documentation about interesting to do a documentation about interesting to do a documentation about all these pieces in there. I know all these pieces in there. I know all these pieces in there. I know Illinois is incredibly fascinating Illinois is incredibly fascinating Illinois is incredibly fascinating place. Um, you know, there's a lot of place. Um, you know, there's a lot of place. Um, you know, there's a lot of anomalies around there and we're going anomalies around there and we're going anomalies around there and we're going to talk about the next piece and Michael to talk about the next piece and Michael to talk about the next piece and Michael Ko's turned up a lot of stuff and Ko's turned up a lot of stuff and Ko's turned up a lot of stuff and artifacts from Illinois. One being a artifacts from Illinois. One being a artifacts from Illinois. One being a coin. I think it was coin was found deep coin. I think it was coin was found deep coin. I think it was coin was found deep down um a megalithic wall found inside down um a megalithic wall found inside down um a megalithic wall found inside of a coal chamber as well. And uh the of a coal chamber as well. And uh the of a coal chamber as well. And uh the next artifact we're going to talk about next artifact we're going to talk about next artifact we're going to talk about Claus uh is a good uh representation of Claus uh is a good uh representation of Claus uh is a good uh representation of this what we're talking where you find this what we're talking where you find this what we're talking where you find artifacts found in coal. Yes, this was artifacts found in coal. Yes, this was artifacts found in coal. Yes, this was found uh uh this was made by the found uh uh this was made by the found uh uh this was made by the creation evidence museum where the creation evidence museum where the creation evidence museum where the original iron cup is on display. I had original iron cup is on display. I had original iron cup is on display. I had it here in Austria for the exhibition it here in Austria for the exhibition it here in Austria for the exhibition 2001 the original and uh 2001 the original and uh 2001 the original and uh 1912 uh a coal miner found in a huge 1912 uh a coal miner found in a huge 1912 uh a coal miner found in a huge block of coal when he broke the the block of coal when he broke the the block of coal when he broke the the block he found an iron cup inside. And block he found an iron cup inside. And block he found an iron cup inside. And when we had the iron cup here in Vienna, when we had the iron cup here in Vienna, when we had the iron cup here in Vienna, we could see exactly that the we could see exactly that the we could see exactly that the compression of the petrification of the compression of the petrification of the compression of the petrification of the coal even uh was leaving some prints coal even uh was leaving some prints coal even uh was leaving some prints inside the iron cup. So that means an inside the iron cup. So that means an inside the iron cup. So that means an iron cup in a coal which uh millions of

iron cup in a coal which uh millions of iron cup in a coal which uh millions of years for coal to form millions of years years for coal to form millions of years years for coal to form millions of years uh approximately at least 65 million uh approximately at least 65 million uh approximately at least 65 million years this kind of coal in this area is years this kind of coal in this area is years this kind of coal in this area is age dated by the geologists. So that's age dated by the geologists. So that's age dated by the geologists. So that's very good. One of the very good uh very good. One of the very good uh very good. One of the very good uh things Michael Kmer was uh in Vienna for things Michael Kmer was uh in Vienna for things Michael Kmer was uh in Vienna for the opening 2001 and he he said I'm the opening 2001 and he he said I'm the opening 2001 and he he said I'm happy that I can see some of the happy that I can see some of the happy that I can see some of the originals which I described already in originals which I described already in originals which I described already in my books. One of them was the iron cup. my books. One of them was the iron cup. my books. One of them was the iron cup. So So So I mean 65 million years if the age I mean 65 million years if the age I mean 65 million years if the age dating from the geologist is correct 65 dating from the geologist is correct 65 dating from the geologist is correct 65 million years an iron cup. The big million years an iron cup. The big million years an iron cup. The big question is who lived on earth 65 question is who lived on earth 65 question is who lived on earth 65 million years because that's the time million years because that's the time million years because that's the time approximately when the dinosaurs approximately when the dinosaurs approximately when the dinosaurs disappeared. Do we know anything about disappeared. Do we know anything about disappeared. Do we know anything about the iron? It's iron content. Is it pure the iron? It's iron content. Is it pure the iron? It's iron content. Is it pure iron or percentage of iron or there's iron or percentage of iron or there's iron or percentage of iron or there's different grades of iron? Uh they did different grades of iron? Uh they did different grades of iron? Uh they did some checks uh of the iron. I don't have some checks uh of the iron. I don't have some checks uh of the iron. I don't have it here but but I will ask Dr. Bo. Of it here but but I will ask Dr. Bo. Of it here but but I will ask Dr. Bo. Of course, there's a lot of artifacts that course, there's a lot of artifacts that course, there's a lot of artifacts that Michael would talk about and that's Michael would talk about and that's Michael would talk about and that's probably why Michael was there. I mean probably why Michael was there. I mean probably why Michael was there. I mean he's found gold chains as well in he's found gold chains as well in he's found gold chains as well in Ireland as well. I think it's one of the Ireland as well. I think it's one of the Ireland as well. I think it's one of the most exciting which is extreme most exciting which is extreme most exciting which is extreme antiquity. We're talking extreme antiquity. We're talking extreme antiquity. We're talking extreme antiquity which smashes all records. You antiquity which smashes all records. You antiquity which smashes all records. You mean some people concentrate fair enough mean some people concentrate fair enough mean some people concentrate fair enough on the 10,000 BC date and say ice age on the 10,000 BC date and say ice age on the 10,000 BC date and say ice age and where were you around then being and where were you around then being and where were you around then being civilized but like you say there is civilized but like you say there is civilized but like you say there is artifact saying you know many many artifact saying you know many many artifact saying you know many many thousands again if we talk about really thousands again if we talk about really thousands again if we talk about really old human existence Colombia again there

old human existence Colombia again there old human existence Colombia again there is a place called via de labor in this is a place called via de labor in this is a place called via de labor in this area you find millions of fossils area you find millions of fossils area you find millions of fossils dinosaurs eggs and so on they found dinosaurs eggs and so on they found dinosaurs eggs and so on they found there what they found there is a stone there what they found there is a stone there what they found there is a stone stone uh a piece of stone and in this stone uh a piece of stone and in this stone uh a piece of stone and in this stone a petrified skeleton human hand stone a petrified skeleton human hand stone a petrified skeleton human hand and a petrified skeleton human food and and a petrified skeleton human food and and a petrified skeleton human food and in the same area they found petrified in the same area they found petrified in the same area they found petrified cultivated fruits and vegetable. Wow. cultivated fruits and vegetable. Wow. cultivated fruits and vegetable. Wow. And age dating of the rock formation of And age dating of the rock formation of And age dating of the rock formation of this rock formation where the skeleton this rock formation where the skeleton this rock formation where the skeleton uh pieces are petrified inside by uh pieces are petrified inside by uh pieces are petrified inside by geologists is approximately 120 to 140 geologists is approximately 120 to 140 geologists is approximately 120 to 140 million years. Wow. So we are talking million years. Wow. So we are talking million years. Wow. So we are talking really about uh human lived already long really about uh human lived already long really about uh human lived already long long time before. Of course, the long time before. Of course, the long time before. Of course, the cultivation employs somebody who's cultivation employs somebody who's cultivation employs somebody who's farming or who could you you have their farming or who could you you have their farming or who could you you have their petrified banana, petrified banana, petrified banana, cocoa, cocoa beans, you have avocado, cocoa, cocoa beans, you have avocado, cocoa, cocoa beans, you have avocado, you have pineapple. Wow. And that's all you have pineapple. Wow. And that's all you have pineapple. Wow. And that's all not wild. It's all cultivated, not wild. It's all cultivated, not wild. It's all cultivated, petrified. So and next question but if petrified. So and next question but if petrified. So and next question but if people ask me why do you think uh the people ask me why do you think uh the people ask me why do you think uh the the science cannot accept these things I the science cannot accept these things I the science cannot accept these things I said because it would be too difficult said because it would be too difficult said because it would be too difficult to explain a missing link of let's say to explain a missing link of let's say to explain a missing link of let's say 50 million or 100 million years what was 50 million or 100 million years what was 50 million or 100 million years what was in between we even don't know exactly in between we even don't know exactly in between we even don't know exactly what happened before 6,000 years so how what happened before 6,000 years so how what happened before 6,000 years so how can we talk about 65 million years or

can we talk about 65 million years or can we talk about 65 million years or something like this I mean that would be something like this I mean that would be something like this I mean that would be too difficult but for me it would too difficult but for me it would too difficult but for me it would One of the the explanation could be that One of the the explanation could be that One of the the explanation could be that we had already several times global we had already several times global we had already several times global catastrophes on earth and just a few catastrophes on earth and just a few catastrophes on earth and just a few people might have survived in very high people might have survived in very high people might have survived in very high area like the Andes like the highland of area like the Andes like the highland of area like the Andes like the highland of Mexico or Tibet um Himalaya this area Mexico or Tibet um Himalaya this area Mexico or Tibet um Himalaya this area starting over again. But if some people starting over again. But if some people starting over again. But if some people survive in a in a in a global survive in a in a in a global survive in a in a in a global catastrophe for generations and catastrophe for generations and catastrophe for generations and generations, they would they would have generations, they would they would have generations, they would they would have only one problem. Where do I find food only one problem. Where do I find food only one problem. Where do I find food for my family? So that means nothing for my family? So that means nothing for my family? So that means nothing would be like before and everything would be like before and everything would be like before and everything would start from the beginning. And what would start from the beginning. And what would start from the beginning. And what would what would uh be still uh in would what would uh be still uh in would what would uh be still uh in common? That's the so-called mythology common? That's the so-called mythology common? That's the so-called mythology or legends. And I personally think all or legends. And I personally think all or legends. And I personally think all of these legends have a very very of these legends have a very very of these legends have a very very big percentage of reality. We just have big percentage of reality. We just have big percentage of reality. We just have to go more behind it. And uh just just to go more behind it. And uh just just to go more behind it. And uh just just let's talk about the giants. There is no let's talk about the giants. There is no let's talk about the giants. There is no country, no tribe, no civilization on country, no tribe, no civilization on country, no tribe, no civilization on earth which does not have the the the earth which does not have the the the earth which does not have the the the legends about the giants and little legends about the giants and little legends about the giants and little people. Wow. For sure. Claus, I really people. Wow. For sure. Claus, I really people. Wow. For sure. Claus, I really thank you for your time today. Before we thank you for your time today. Before we thank you for your time today. Before we go, I want you to show a copy of your go, I want you to show a copy of your go, I want you to show a copy of your DVD one more time and you can give it DVD one more time and you can give it DVD one more time and you can give it your website. Uh this is uh the DVD

your website. Uh this is uh the DVD your website. Uh this is uh the DVD which you can get on Amazon. It's called which you can get on Amazon. It's called which you can get on Amazon. It's called Claus Chron. And uh my website is uh www.unsolvedenmsteries.com. And James, I www.unsolvedenmsteries.com. And James, I think if many more people are think if many more people are think if many more people are researching on the past, maybe we can researching on the past, maybe we can researching on the past, maybe we can find out a lot what we could learn from find out a lot what we could learn from find out a lot what we could learn from the past and what we should do better in the past and what we should do better in the past and what we should do better in the future. Because if we continue our the future. Because if we continue our the future. Because if we continue our lifestyle, we destroy ourself. lifestyle, we destroy ourself. lifestyle, we destroy ourself. That's a nice way to finish the the That's a nice way to finish the the That's a nice way to finish the the note. I think yeah, if everybody can get note. I think yeah, if everybody can get note. I think yeah, if everybody can get out and do some research and get out and do some research and get out and do some research and get involved and explore, you know, the involved and explore, you know, the involved and explore, you know, the world, it's it's it's there's plenty world, it's it's it's there's plenty world, it's it's it's there's plenty still there to discover. close and I still there to discover. close and I still there to discover. close and I love to give informations but that's the love to give informations but that's the love to give informations but that's the because that's the only way to get because that's the only way to get because that's the only way to get informations give and take give and informations give and take give and informations give and take give and take. So for any information I'm very take. So for any information I'm very take. So for any information I'm very thanks for it. Wow. Wow. Thank you for thanks for it. Wow. Wow. Thank you for thanks for it. Wow. Wow. Thank you for your time today class. It been a your time today class. It been a your time today class. It been a pleasure. Thank you very much James. It pleasure. Thank you very much James. It pleasure. Thank you very much James. It was great talking to you. You too will.

Hi Claus. Here we are outside the Hi Claus. Here we are outside the Imperial Palace, home of some of the Imperial Palace, home of some of the Imperial Palace, home of some of the most awesome treasures I've ever seen. most awesome treasures I've ever seen. most awesome treasures I've ever seen. Uh can you tell people what's inside a Uh can you tell people what's inside a Uh can you tell people what's inside a little bit about this place? Uh a little little bit about this place? Uh a little little bit about this place? Uh a little bit about the house of Hapsburg and why bit about the house of Hapsburg and why bit about the house of Hapsburg and why people should come to Vienna to see this people should come to Vienna to see this people should come to Vienna to see this place. Uh the whole H book uh keeps a place. Uh the whole H book uh keeps a place. Uh the whole H book uh keeps a many of the most famous museums and uh many of the most famous museums and uh many of the most famous museums and uh for me also one of the most interesting for me also one of the most interesting for me also one of the most interesting places is the treasure room of the house places is the treasure room of the house places is the treasure room of the house of Hubsburg where they keep all the uh of Hubsburg where they keep all the uh of Hubsburg where they keep all the uh treasures like the crowns and all the treasures like the crowns and all the treasures like the crowns and all the ingredients uh uh from the house of ingredients uh uh from the house of ingredients uh uh from the house of Habsburg and it's just amazing. You have Habsburg and it's just amazing. You have Habsburg and it's just amazing. You have to come and see it by yourself then you to come and see it by yourself then you to come and see it by yourself then you know what I say. Uh tell us a little bit know what I say. Uh tell us a little bit know what I say. Uh tell us a little bit about the House of Habsburgs. Are they about the House of Habsburgs. Are they about the House of Habsburgs. Are they still here around today? There's still still here around today? There's still still here around today? There's still remnants of them in Europe. Uh they got remnants of them in Europe. Uh they got remnants of them in Europe. Uh they got kind of disbanded in the World War I. kind of disbanded in the World War I. kind of disbanded in the World War I. Yeah, after World War uh after World War Yeah, after World War uh after World War Yeah, after World War uh after World War I uh the uh Habsburg Empire was uh I uh the uh Habsburg Empire was uh I uh the uh Habsburg Empire was uh broken. So all the different uh kingdoms broken. So all the different uh kingdoms broken. So all the different uh kingdoms uh of the house of Habsburg uh were uh of the house of Habsburg uh were uh of the house of Habsburg uh were separated into Czech Republic, Hungaria separated into Czech Republic, Hungaria separated into Czech Republic, Hungaria and all the others. and uh still members and all the others. and uh still members and all the others. and uh still members of the house of Huffsburg are living in of the house of Huffsburg are living in of the house of Huffsburg are living in Austria. Uh the uh historian of the Austria. Uh the uh historian of the Austria. Uh the uh historian of the family, the great grandson of the famous family, the great grandson of the famous family, the great grandson of the famous emperor France Joseph emperor France Joseph emperor France Joseph Iet so-called Cece uh Aru Michael, he Iet so-called Cece uh Aru Michael, he Iet so-called Cece uh Aru Michael, he went with me for the opening of the went with me for the opening of the went with me for the opening of the Hubsburg exhibition which I did 1992 in

Hubsburg exhibition which I did 1992 in Hubsburg exhibition which I did 1992 in Tokyo and it was a great great success Tokyo and it was a great great success Tokyo and it was a great great success and we are from that time on we are very and we are from that time on we are very and we are from that time on we are very good friends. Wow. And Claus uh tell us good friends. Wow. And Claus uh tell us good friends. Wow. And Claus uh tell us a little bit the some of the garments a little bit the some of the garments a little bit the some of the garments that they have inside have gold that they have inside have gold that they have inside have gold embroidery such exquisite. They still embroidery such exquisite. They still embroidery such exquisite. They still use these the Hapsburgs would still use use these the Hapsburgs would still use use these the Hapsburgs would still use these today. Uh no only the uh golden these today. Uh no only the uh golden these today. Uh no only the uh golden fleece uh which are also presented here. fleece uh which are also presented here. fleece uh which are also presented here. They were they are used uh every year at They were they are used uh every year at They were they are used uh every year at the special meeting of the order of the the special meeting of the order of the the special meeting of the order of the knights of the golden fle. Wow. Wow. And knights of the golden fle. Wow. Wow. And knights of the golden fle. Wow. Wow. And uh for you, what's your favorite piece uh for you, what's your favorite piece uh for you, what's your favorite piece in Cyclass? in Cyclass? in Cyclass? Uh the imperial crown. The imperial Uh the imperial crown. The imperial Uh the imperial crown. The imperial crown is the most impressive one. And crown is the most impressive one. And crown is the most impressive one. And also for me interesting is the spear of also for me interesting is the spear of also for me interesting is the spear of uh uh uh the holy lands, the spear of destiny as the holy lands, the spear of destiny as the holy lands, the spear of destiny as they call the spear of destiny. But it they call the spear of destiny. But it they call the spear of destiny. But it is not the original because the director is not the original because the director is not the original because the director of this place, the former director uh of this place, the former director uh of this place, the former director uh Dr. Rudolfph Dislberger was a very good Dr. Rudolfph Dislberger was a very good Dr. Rudolfph Dislberger was a very good friend of mine and he did uh excellent friend of mine and he did uh excellent friend of mine and he did uh excellent research on it and he said that this research on it and he said that this research on it and he said that this cannot be a Roman spear. So it cannot be cannot be a Roman spear. So it cannot be cannot be a Roman spear. So it cannot be the original of destiny. Wow. Cuz there the original of destiny. Wow. Cuz there the original of destiny. Wow. Cuz there were several uh copies in around 5th 6th were several uh copies in around 5th 6th were several uh copies in around 5th 6th century. So there was uh they're not century. So there was uh they're not century. So there was uh they're not necessarily fakes. They're they're old.

necessarily fakes. They're they're old. necessarily fakes. They're they're old. They're very very old. They are very They're very very old. They are very They're very very old. They are very old, but they're just not the original. old, but they're just not the original. old, but they're just not the original. Uh just tell us you touched on the Uh just tell us you touched on the Uh just tell us you touched on the Roman. Tell us a little bit about the Roman. Tell us a little bit about the Roman. Tell us a little bit about the Roman history of Austria. Something I Roman history of Austria. Something I Roman history of Austria. Something I wasn't aware till I came to Vienna. wasn't aware till I came to Vienna. wasn't aware till I came to Vienna. approximately a little bit more than approximately a little bit more than approximately a little bit more than 2,000 years ago, the Roman came here to 2,000 years ago, the Roman came here to 2,000 years ago, the Roman came here to Vienna. Uh the place here was called Vienna. Uh the place here was called Vienna. Uh the place here was called Bindona and it was a very big military Bindona and it was a very big military Bindona and it was a very big military area here of the Roman Empire and they area here of the Roman Empire and they area here of the Roman Empire and they also brought the wine to Austria and now also brought the wine to Austria and now also brought the wine to Austria and now Austria is very famous for its very good Austria is very famous for its very good Austria is very famous for its very good red and white wine. They really they red and white wine. They really they red and white wine. They really they ruled the the Roman Empire from this ruled the the Roman Empire from this ruled the the Roman Empire from this part of the Danube. Uh, no. It was uh part of the Danube. Uh, no. It was uh part of the Danube. Uh, no. It was uh the final destination to the east and to the final destination to the east and to the final destination to the east and to the north for a long time here. That's the north for a long time here. That's the north for a long time here. That's why they had a big military area here. why they had a big military area here. why they had a big military area here. Wow. Well, thank you for your time, Wow. Well, thank you for your time, Wow. Well, thank you for your time, class, and explaining how to come to class, and explaining how to come to class, and explaining how to come to Vienna and why to come to Vienna. Please Vienna and why to come to Vienna. Please Vienna and why to come to Vienna. Please come and see it by yourself. You will come and see it by yourself. You will come and see it by yourself. You will love it. Thank you, brother.