John Todd Tape 6 Personal Testimony

Very good experience to find yourself Very good experience to find yourself being told that you're not quite there being told that you're not quite there being told that you're not quite there yet on 680, so you keep on going and you yet on 680, so you keep on going and you yet on 680, so you keep on going and you end up in San Jose. end up in San Jose. end up in San Jose. And then you turn around and try to rush And then you turn around and try to rush And then you turn around and try to rush back. But uh somehow the Lord got us back. But uh somehow the Lord got us back. But uh somehow the Lord got us here. Uh everything that could have been here. Uh everything that could have been here. Uh everything that could have been thrown against us on the road was car thrown against us on the road was car thrown against us on the road was car trouble and everything else, so we're trouble and everything else, so we're trouble and everything else, so we're very grateful to be here. I kept saying very grateful to be here. I kept saying very grateful to be here. I kept saying over and over as I prayed going down the over and over as I prayed going down the over and over as I prayed going down the road road road uh that this had to be something uh that this had to be something uh that this had to be something tonight, some type of fantastic meeting tonight, some type of fantastic meeting tonight, some type of fantastic meeting because usually when we're this well because usually when we're this well because usually when we're this well fought getting to a place, something's fought getting to a place, something's fought getting to a place, something's going to take place. So I came in going to take place. So I came in going to take place. So I came in expecting something. I'm sure you were expecting something. I'm sure you were expecting something. I'm sure you were expecting to leave as late as it is. expecting to leave as late as it is. expecting to leave as late as it is. But uh if you must be all as they said, But uh if you must be all as they said, But uh if you must be all as they said, go ahead. go ahead. go ahead. Uh otherwise uh you know, bear with me. Uh otherwise uh you know, bear with me. Uh otherwise uh you know, bear with me. I'll I'll I'll try not to keep you too long. The only try not to keep you too long. The only try not to keep you too long. The only complaint that my pastor has against me complaint that my pastor has against me complaint that my pastor has against me is that I'm long-winded and the only is that I'm long-winded and the only is that I'm long-winded and the only complaint that another pastor had last complaint that another pastor had last complaint that another pastor had last Sunday night was that I wasn't Sunday night was that I wasn't Sunday night was that I wasn't long-winded enough. He wanted to go to long-winded enough. He wanted to go to long-winded enough. He wanted to go to 11. 11. 11. I promise not to keep you that late.

I promise not to keep you that late. I promise not to keep you that late. But anyway, But anyway, But anyway, uh I don't fool around, so I'll just uh uh I don't fool around, so I'll just uh uh I don't fool around, so I'll just uh start right out. I can only make you one start right out. I can only make you one start right out. I can only make you one promise that what I've got to say is the promise that what I've got to say is the promise that what I've got to say is the truth. It won't seem that way to some of truth. It won't seem that way to some of truth. It won't seem that way to some of you. You'll only just seem that I'm you. You'll only just seem that I'm you. You'll only just seem that I'm either crazy or I'm the biggest liar and either crazy or I'm the biggest liar and either crazy or I'm the biggest liar and and storyteller in the world. That's and storyteller in the world. That's and storyteller in the world. That's what our televisions have done to us. what our televisions have done to us. what our televisions have done to us. They've gotten us to a frame of mind They've gotten us to a frame of mind They've gotten us to a frame of mind that we do not realize the real world that we do not realize the real world that we do not realize the real world around us. around us. around us. When I talk in many youth rallies, many When I talk in many youth rallies, many When I talk in many youth rallies, many of the Christian schools, I start right of the Christian schools, I start right of the Christian schools, I start right out by tearing their television and rock out by tearing their television and rock out by tearing their television and rock idols down by personal experiences that idols down by personal experiences that idols down by personal experiences that I've had with them in the occult world. I've had with them in the occult world. I've had with them in the occult world. And then from there we try to build them And then from there we try to build them And then from there we try to build them up with real heroes, the number one up with real heroes, the number one up with real heroes, the number one being Jesus Christ. But uh I come from a being Jesus Christ. But uh I come from a being Jesus Christ. But uh I come from a family that where I grew up having my family that where I grew up having my family that where I grew up having my own heroes. own heroes. own heroes. My number one hero was my great great My number one hero was my great great My number one hero was my great great great somewhere way back there great somewhere way back there great somewhere way back there grandfather named Francis Collins. grandfather named Francis Collins. grandfather named Francis Collins. Francis Collins owned the first ship Francis Collins owned the first ship Francis Collins owned the first ship that Puritans landed in here. It just so that Puritans landed in here. It just so that Puritans landed in here. It just so happened that 50% of other people on happened that 50% of other people on happened that 50% of other people on board were also witchcraft people board were also witchcraft people board were also witchcraft people fleeing from Scotland. They were called fleeing from Scotland. They were called fleeing from Scotland. They were called the Collinses.

the Collinses. the Collinses. They were all his family and that's how They were all his family and that's how They were all his family and that's how all witchcraft came to the United all witchcraft came to the United all witchcraft came to the United States. So when I grew up, I was being States. So when I grew up, I was being States. So when I grew up, I was being trained how great my family was, that it trained how great my family was, that it trained how great my family was, that it was the second most important family in was the second most important family in was the second most important family in the Illuminati in the occult world, and the Illuminati in the occult world, and the Illuminati in the occult world, and that someday I'd be very important and that someday I'd be very important and that someday I'd be very important and so on. So I had my own heroes and so on. So I had my own heroes and so on. So I had my own heroes and television didn't help much. The reason television didn't help much. The reason television didn't help much. The reason I'm so down on television is I grew up I'm so down on television is I grew up I'm so down on television is I grew up around the television world on the around the television world on the around the television world on the insides of it. insides of it. insides of it. When I was just a teenager, Hollywood When I was just a teenager, Hollywood When I was just a teenager, Hollywood paid for my way out to California so paid for my way out to California so paid for my way out to California so that I could bring a couple of diaries that I could bring a couple of diaries that I could bring a couple of diaries that uh that uh that uh belonged to my family that I had belonged to my family that I had belonged to my family that I had inherited by will as the last male heir inherited by will as the last male heir inherited by will as the last male heir of the Collins family. If you wondered of the Collins family. If you wondered of the Collins family. If you wondered why that sits with Todds, the Collins why that sits with Todds, the Collins why that sits with Todds, the Collins family changed their name about 100 family changed their name about 100 family changed their name about 100 years ago to Todd to cover up some of years ago to Todd to cover up some of years ago to Todd to cover up some of the things that they had done. the things that they had done. the things that they had done. But I'm sure some of you will remember But I'm sure some of you will remember But I'm sure some of you will remember the show Dark Shadows. That was the show the show Dark Shadows. That was the show the show Dark Shadows. That was the show that paid for me to come to Hollywood to that paid for me to come to Hollywood to that paid for me to come to Hollywood to bring the diaries. Many of the scripts bring the diaries. Many of the scripts bring the diaries. Many of the scripts were taken from actual incidences in the were taken from actual incidences in the were taken from actual incidences in the diaries. And for instance, Barnabas diaries. And for instance, Barnabas diaries. And for instance, Barnabas Collins was based upon a man named Collins was based upon a man named Collins was based upon a man named Prince Williams Collins, a Revolutionary Prince Williams Collins, a Revolutionary Prince Williams Collins, a Revolutionary War hero. When I was growing up in the War hero. When I was growing up in the War hero. When I was growing up in the occult world, we were always taught that occult world, we were always taught that occult world, we were always taught that we had been somebody else before. Wasn't we had been somebody else before. Wasn't we had been somebody else before. Wasn't good enough that we were the person we good enough that we were the person we good enough that we were the person we were now. We always had to be a dozen were now. We always had to be a dozen were now. We always had to be a dozen people that we were before. We had to people that we were before. We had to people that we were before. We had to deal with this life and all the ones we deal with this life and all the ones we deal with this life and all the ones we were supposed to have had before and all were supposed to have had before and all were supposed to have had before and all the ones we were going to have in the the ones we were going to have in the the ones we were going to have in the future.

future. future. And I was supposed to be Prince Williams And I was supposed to be Prince Williams And I was supposed to be Prince Williams Collins. I said that's who they based Collins. I said that's who they based Collins. I said that's who they based Barnabas on, so I wasn't exactly the Barnabas on, so I wasn't exactly the Barnabas on, so I wasn't exactly the nicest guy in the world. nicest guy in the world. nicest guy in the world. I grew up this way when I was 13 I grew up this way when I was 13 I grew up this way when I was 13 I was taken into what is called the I was taken into what is called the I was taken into what is called the outer court to be trained as a priest in outer court to be trained as a priest in outer court to be trained as a priest in witchcraft. That would have been like witchcraft. That would have been like witchcraft. That would have been like your pastor who just stepped off or your pastor who just stepped off or your pastor who just stepped off or better yet more like the youth director better yet more like the youth director better yet more like the youth director or something. or something. or something. When I was 18, I was initiated a high When I was 18, I was initiated a high When I was 18, I was initiated a high priest. That would have made me the priest. That would have made me the priest. That would have made me the pastor. pastor. pastor. The same time I became draft exempt. I The same time I became draft exempt. I The same time I became draft exempt. I did not have to go into service. But a did not have to go into service. But a did not have to go into service. But a bunch of us small alley young, I have to bunch of us small alley young, I have to bunch of us small alley young, I have to correct the pastor, not warlocks but correct the pastor, not warlocks but correct the pastor, not warlocks but wizards and witches, went into the army wizards and witches, went into the army wizards and witches, went into the army because we felt the army really needed because we felt the army really needed because we felt the army really needed witchcraft. It just couldn't get along witchcraft. It just couldn't get along witchcraft. It just couldn't get along without us. without us. without us. And since the army didn't think that And since the army didn't think that And since the army didn't think that they needed any chaplains that were they needed any chaplains that were they needed any chaplains that were witches, we just kind of went in on our witches, we just kind of went in on our witches, we just kind of went in on our own. So I went on in along with a lot of own. So I went on in along with a lot of own. So I went on in along with a lot of others and others and others and I never did anything I guess halfway. I I never did anything I guess halfway. I I never did anything I guess halfway. I got in Vietnam, found out I liked got in Vietnam, found out I liked got in Vietnam, found out I liked Vietnam so well I was willing to Vietnam so well I was willing to Vietnam so well I was willing to re-enlist. In fact, I'd already signed re-enlist. In fact, I'd already signed re-enlist. In fact, I'd already signed the papers to stay for another tour in the papers to stay for another tour in the papers to stay for another tour in Vietnam, but I became wounded in the Vietnam, but I became wounded in the Vietnam, but I became wounded in the last month of the first tour and I was last month of the first tour and I was last month of the first tour and I was shipped back to the United States.

shipped back to the United States. shipped back to the United States. My time was almost up, so I was My time was almost up, so I was My time was almost up, so I was discharged. The same day I re-enlisted, discharged. The same day I re-enlisted, discharged. The same day I re-enlisted, I asked for Vietnam and they said I asked for Vietnam and they said I asked for Vietnam and they said because of my wounds that hadn't totally because of my wounds that hadn't totally because of my wounds that hadn't totally healed yet, I couldn't go to Vietnam healed yet, I couldn't go to Vietnam healed yet, I couldn't go to Vietnam yet. So I got Germany. Now I had yet. So I got Germany. Now I had yet. So I got Germany. Now I had re-enlisted for 6 years. re-enlisted for 6 years. re-enlisted for 6 years. And until the time of my re-enlistment And until the time of my re-enlistment And until the time of my re-enlistment I always thought that witchcraft was I always thought that witchcraft was I always thought that witchcraft was just witchcraft. There was nothing more just witchcraft. There was nothing more just witchcraft. There was nothing more to witchcraft than just casting spells to witchcraft than just casting spells to witchcraft than just casting spells and that we were smarter than the and that we were smarter than the and that we were smarter than the Christians and other religions because Christians and other religions because Christians and other religions because we really knew who the gods were and we we really knew who the gods were and we we really knew who the gods were and we were born with special powers because were born with special powers because were born with special powers because our ancestors had passed them down to us our ancestors had passed them down to us our ancestors had passed them down to us and all the little stories they like to and all the little stories they like to and all the little stories they like to tell us. Witchcraft was a little tell us. Witchcraft was a little tell us. Witchcraft was a little different at that time. When I first got different at that time. When I first got different at that time. When I first got into it as a teen I was a young person, into it as a teen I was a young person, into it as a teen I was a young person, you had to be from a family that had you had to be from a family that had you had to be from a family that had generations after generations of generations after generations of generations after generations of witchcraft. In order to be a coven witchcraft. In order to be a coven witchcraft. In order to be a coven member at the time, you had to have member at the time, you had to have member at the time, you had to have three generations at least. What three generations at least. What three generations at least. What the minimum that I had that we could the minimum that I had that we could the minimum that I had that we could find was seven. find was seven. find was seven. So there wasn't any problem and we know So there wasn't any problem and we know So there wasn't any problem and we know it went past that where there weren't it went past that where there weren't it went past that where there weren't records kept anymore. records kept anymore. records kept anymore. But uh that was all witchcraft was as I But uh that was all witchcraft was as I But uh that was all witchcraft was as I tell many people when you know, many of tell many people when you know, many of tell many people when you know, many of you were raised as Christians and I you were raised as Christians and I you were raised as Christians and I guess that's why I can't understand why guess that's why I can't understand why guess that's why I can't understand why some of the Christian teenagers are the some of the Christian teenagers are the some of the Christian teenagers are the way they are today. If they were raised way they are today. If they were raised way they are today. If they were raised in this glorious gospel, why they're so in this glorious gospel, why they're so in this glorious gospel, why they're so rebellious. I would have given anything rebellious. I would have given anything rebellious. I would have given anything to have been raised this way.

to have been raised this way. to have been raised this way. But uh when you were learning the 23rd But uh when you were learning the 23rd But uh when you were learning the 23rd Psalm, I was learning the witches' Psalm, I was learning the witches' Psalm, I was learning the witches' chant. When you were were reading about chant. When you were were reading about chant. When you were were reading about Moses opening the Red Sea, I was reading Moses opening the Red Sea, I was reading Moses opening the Red Sea, I was reading J.R.R. Tolkien. J.R.R. Tolkien. J.R.R. Tolkien. When you guys were read When you guys were read When you guys were read learning learning learning different memory verses and so on and different memory verses and so on and different memory verses and so on and four spiritual laws and the Ten four spiritual laws and the Ten four spiritual laws and the Ten Commandments, I was happening to read Commandments, I was happening to read Commandments, I was happening to read C.S. Lewis. Of course, I've been greatly C.S. Lewis. Of course, I've been greatly C.S. Lewis. Of course, I've been greatly surprised that Christians read that, surprised that Christians read that, surprised that Christians read that, too. too. too. But But But this is the way I grew up and this is this is the way I grew up and this is this is the way I grew up and this is all I believed in was just that there all I believed in was just that there all I believed in was just that there were mighty gods and we were special were mighty gods and we were special were mighty gods and we were special people. We were their priests and people. We were their priests and people. We were their priests and priestesses until I re-enlisted. priestesses until I re-enlisted. priestesses until I re-enlisted. Went to Germany, spent a month home, Went to Germany, spent a month home, Went to Germany, spent a month home, went to Germany, spent another month. went to Germany, spent another month. went to Germany, spent another month. Two months out of a 6-year enlistment. Two months out of a 6-year enlistment. Two months out of a 6-year enlistment. One night while taking drugs and One night while taking drugs and One night while taking drugs and drinking drinking drinking I shot killed an officer in downtown I shot killed an officer in downtown I shot killed an officer in downtown Stuttgart. Now there's one thing that Stuttgart. Now there's one thing that Stuttgart. Now there's one thing that the army does not like. It does not like the army does not like. It does not like the army does not like. It does not like its sergeants killing its officers. They its sergeants killing its officers. They its sergeants killing its officers. They have a quick cure for that. They threw have a quick cure for that. They threw have a quick cure for that. They threw me in solitary confinement. me in solitary confinement. me in solitary confinement. And as the court-martial proceeded on And as the court-martial proceeded on And as the court-martial proceeded on and things began to look like I was and things began to look like I was and things began to look like I was going to spend the rest of my life in going to spend the rest of my life in going to spend the rest of my life in Leavenworth if I was lucky Leavenworth if I was lucky Leavenworth if I was lucky all of a sudden a riot took place in the all of a sudden a riot took place in the all of a sudden a riot took place in the stockade and although I was in solitary stockade and although I was in solitary stockade and although I was in solitary confinement, other people were placed in confinement, other people were placed in confinement, other people were placed in the cell with me.

the cell with me. the cell with me. One of the men that was placed in the One of the men that was placed in the One of the men that was placed in the cell with me had been scheduled to get cell with me had been scheduled to get cell with me had been scheduled to get out that particular day and was held out that particular day and was held out that particular day and was held because of the riot. So I kind of talked because of the riot. So I kind of talked because of the riot. So I kind of talked him in by bribing him a little that him in by bribing him a little that him in by bribing him a little that if he made a long-distance phone call if he made a long-distance phone call if he made a long-distance phone call for me and told certain relatives of for me and told certain relatives of for me and told certain relatives of mine that I was in trouble, he'd receive mine that I was in trouble, he'd receive mine that I was in trouble, he'd receive some money for it and I'd be a lot some money for it and I'd be a lot some money for it and I'd be a lot happier. happier. happier. So he called collect to Los Angeles and So he called collect to Los Angeles and So he called collect to Los Angeles and talked to my foster mother, explained talked to my foster mother, explained talked to my foster mother, explained what the situation was. And I was what the situation was. And I was what the situation was. And I was sitting back waiting for all her to get sitting back waiting for all her to get sitting back waiting for all her to get all these big witches together to cast all these big witches together to cast all these big witches together to cast on the judges and make all the officers on the judges and make all the officers on the judges and make all the officers that were trying me think I was a real that were trying me think I was a real that were trying me think I was a real guy nice guy and that was self-defense guy nice guy and that was self-defense guy nice guy and that was self-defense and everything was going to be fine. and everything was going to be fine. and everything was going to be fine. They'd just let me off. Now that's all They'd just let me off. Now that's all They'd just let me off. Now that's all that I had ever been taught that witches that I had ever been taught that witches that I had ever been taught that witches could do. could do. could do. But 3 days later my cell door opened But 3 days later my cell door opened But 3 days later my cell door opened there in solitary. I I stepped out in there in solitary. I I stepped out in there in solitary. I I stepped out in the light for the first time in 32 days. the light for the first time in 32 days. the light for the first time in 32 days. I heard I heard I heard some very strange words. You are some very strange words. You are some very strange words. You are honorably discharged from the United honorably discharged from the United honorably discharged from the United States Army. And the man that was saying States Army. And the man that was saying States Army. And the man that was saying them was a senator by the name of them was a senator by the name of them was a senator by the name of William Saxbe. He had a congressman with William Saxbe. He had a congressman with William Saxbe. He had a congressman with him named Wiley and about three or four him named Wiley and about three or four him named Wiley and about three or four generals and they were handing me an generals and they were handing me an generals and they were handing me an honorable discharge. Now on the honorable discharge. Now on the honorable discharge. Now on the discharge papers it didn't say I was discharge papers it didn't say I was discharge papers it didn't say I was bad. Didn't say that I had been in jail.

bad. Didn't say that I had been in jail. bad. Didn't say that I had been in jail. Didn't say anything. It gave me all my Didn't say anything. It gave me all my Didn't say anything. It gave me all my time and rank, security clearances that time and rank, security clearances that time and rank, security clearances that I had in my possession I had in my possession I had in my possession and didn't explain why I still had over and didn't explain why I still had over and didn't explain why I still had over 5 years to go in the United States Army. 5 years to go in the United States Army. 5 years to go in the United States Army. It just discharged me honorably. It just discharged me honorably. It just discharged me honorably. So as I took it, didn't want to argue So as I took it, didn't want to argue So as I took it, didn't want to argue with them and left and went back to the with them and left and went back to the with them and left and went back to the States and arrived at my home in States and arrived at my home in States and arrived at my home in Columbus, Ohio, I asked my real mother. Columbus, Ohio, I asked my real mother. Columbus, Ohio, I asked my real mother. I have two mothers, foster mother and a I have two mothers, foster mother and a I have two mothers, foster mother and a real mother. real mother. real mother. I said, "What type of spell is so good I said, "What type of spell is so good I said, "What type of spell is so good that it makes senators and generals do that it makes senators and generals do that it makes senators and generals do what you want? And it's a really good what you want? And it's a really good what you want? And it's a really good spell. I'd like to learn it." spell. I'd like to learn it." spell. I'd like to learn it." She just looked at me and said, "You She just looked at me and said, "You She just looked at me and said, "You just don't understand, do you?" She just don't understand, do you?" She just don't understand, do you?" She said, "There That what We didn't cast said, "There That what We didn't cast said, "There That what We didn't cast the spell on them. They're with us." I the spell on them. They're with us." I the spell on them. They're with us." I said, "Oh, far out. Senators that are said, "Oh, far out. Senators that are said, "Oh, far out. Senators that are witches." She says, "No, they just witches." She says, "No, they just witches." She says, "No, they just belong to us." belong to us." belong to us." And I didn't understand what she was And I didn't understand what she was And I didn't understand what she was saying and I said, "Well, what am I saying and I said, "Well, what am I saying and I said, "Well, what am I supposed to do now? You know, I'd like supposed to do now? You know, I'd like supposed to do now? You know, I'd like to take my old coven back over and so to take my old coven back over and so to take my old coven back over and so on." on." on." So she handed me an envelope. It had So she handed me an envelope. It had So she handed me an envelope. It had been waiting there. been waiting there. been waiting there. She'd explained that there was one there She'd explained that there was one there She'd explained that there was one there and one in Los Angeles. They didn't and one in Los Angeles. They didn't and one in Los Angeles. They didn't quite know where I was going to show up. quite know where I was going to show up. quite know where I was going to show up. I opened the envelope. Very intriguing I opened the envelope. Very intriguing I opened the envelope. Very intriguing thing.

thing. thing. $2,000 in $100 bills. $2,000 in $100 bills. $2,000 in $100 bills. A lot of money. A lot of money. A lot of money. Also was a one-way plane ticket to New Also was a one-way plane ticket to New Also was a one-way plane ticket to New York City. York City. York City. I said, "Well, what's this for?" She I said, "Well, what's this for?" She I said, "Well, what's this for?" She said, "Well, you make a reservation, you said, "Well, you make a reservation, you said, "Well, you make a reservation, you get on the next plane, you get out of get on the next plane, you get out of get on the next plane, you get out of here and you get to New York City and here and you get to New York City and here and you get to New York City and they'll meet you there for it." I said, they'll meet you there for it." I said, they'll meet you there for it." I said, "Well, who are they? And where did this "Well, who are they? And where did this "Well, who are they? And where did this money come from?" She says, "You get money come from?" She says, "You get money come from?" She says, "You get there and they'll tell you and you'll there and they'll tell you and you'll there and they'll tell you and you'll know who's supposed to meet you when you know who's supposed to meet you when you know who's supposed to meet you when you get there." get there." get there." Now witches are very curious people. Now witches are very curious people. Now witches are very curious people. That's why when we do some of the most That's why when we do some of the most That's why when we do some of the most demonic rites imaginable and our hair demonic rites imaginable and our hair demonic rites imaginable and our hair would stand on end and almost turn snow would stand on end and almost turn snow would stand on end and almost turn snow white overnight from all the spooky white overnight from all the spooky white overnight from all the spooky things, we couldn't wait to get back in things, we couldn't wait to get back in things, we couldn't wait to get back in there. We were always curious what was there. We were always curious what was there. We were always curious what was going to happen the next. I guess why going to happen the next. I guess why going to happen the next. I guess why some of the people get on roller some of the people get on roller some of the people get on roller coasters and like to be scared to death. coasters and like to be scared to death. coasters and like to be scared to death. It's just the way with the witches. They It's just the way with the witches. They It's just the way with the witches. They really spooky things going on and they really spooky things going on and they really spooky things going on and they can't wait to get back and this was can't wait to get back and this was can't wait to get back and this was extremely intriguing. extremely intriguing. extremely intriguing. So, I got on the plane and I flew to New So, I got on the plane and I flew to New So, I got on the plane and I flew to New York York York and I got off the plane. Sure enough, no and I got off the plane. Sure enough, no and I got off the plane. Sure enough, no problem with recognizing who met me. I'd problem with recognizing who met me. I'd problem with recognizing who met me. I'd read his books for years. In fact, he's read his books for years. In fact, he's read his books for years. In fact, he's the man who first created Christian the man who first created Christian the man who first created Christian witchcraft. The man was Dr. Raymond witchcraft. The man was Dr. Raymond witchcraft. The man was Dr. Raymond Buckland, Buckland, Buckland, head of the anthropology department, head of the anthropology department, head of the anthropology department, Columbia University at that time. He is Columbia University at that time. He is Columbia University at that time. He is it now.

it now. it now. Graduate of Oxford University, Rhodes Graduate of Oxford University, Rhodes Graduate of Oxford University, Rhodes Scholar, Scholar, Scholar, hand-picked by the Rothschilds to lead hand-picked by the Rothschilds to lead hand-picked by the Rothschilds to lead the Illuminati forum. So, I arrived and the Illuminati forum. So, I arrived and the Illuminati forum. So, I arrived and he took me to his house and next few he took me to his house and next few he took me to his house and next few months he carefully rearranged all my months he carefully rearranged all my months he carefully rearranged all my ideas for me. He told me that all the ideas for me. He told me that all the ideas for me. He told me that all the things that I had learned about things that I had learned about things that I had learned about witchcraft were just stories that we witchcraft were just stories that we witchcraft were just stories that we told the lower people and where I told the lower people and where I told the lower people and where I thought there was only three levels and thought there was only three levels and thought there was only three levels and I was as high and as powerful as a witch I was as high and as powerful as a witch I was as high and as powerful as a witch could go, he assured me there were three could go, he assured me there were three could go, he assured me there were three more. more. more. I guess I should have backed off then I guess I should have backed off then I guess I should have backed off then and figured if I was lied to the first and figured if I was lied to the first and figured if I was lied to the first time, maybe I'd be lied to the second time, maybe I'd be lied to the second time, maybe I'd be lied to the second time. But, as I said, witches have an time. But, as I said, witches have an time. But, as I said, witches have an incurable curiosity. They've got to find incurable curiosity. They've got to find incurable curiosity. They've got to find out everything. So, I let him train me out everything. So, I let him train me out everything. So, I let him train me and he explained to me that since I was and he explained to me that since I was and he explained to me that since I was a male Collins, I was in the Collins a male Collins, I was in the Collins a male Collins, I was in the Collins family, that I had a position to take. family, that I had a position to take. family, that I had a position to take. And that there was a board of directors And that there was a board of directors And that there was a board of directors called the Grand Druid Council which called the Grand Druid Council which called the Grand Druid Council which contained 13 of the most powerful contained 13 of the most powerful contained 13 of the most powerful witches in the world and that my place witches in the world and that my place witches in the world and that my place was on that council. And I said, "Oh, was on that council. And I said, "Oh, was on that council. And I said, "Oh, you know, great. When do I take it?" And you know, great. When do I take it?" And you know, great. When do I take it?" And he said, "Well, somebody just died." I he said, "Well, somebody just died." I he said, "Well, somebody just died." I kind of always wondered if he died or kind of always wondered if he died or kind of always wondered if he died or they shot him or something.

they shot him or something. they shot him or something. You never can tell in the Illuminati. You never can tell in the Illuminati. You never can tell in the Illuminati. But, uh But, uh But, uh he sent me to Los Angeles. I studied for he sent me to Los Angeles. I studied for he sent me to Los Angeles. I studied for six more months with my foster mother six more months with my foster mother six more months with my foster mother holding kind of a temporary rank on this holding kind of a temporary rank on this holding kind of a temporary rank on this council and then taking up to Colorado council and then taking up to Colorado council and then taking up to Colorado Springs and initiated. And I do believe Springs and initiated. And I do believe Springs and initiated. And I do believe that when I testified here at the last that when I testified here at the last that when I testified here at the last time, time, time, I explained who the person was that I explained who the person was that I explained who the person was that handed me the ceremonial knife for that handed me the ceremonial knife for that handed me the ceremonial knife for that ceremony. Another senator named George ceremony. Another senator named George ceremony. Another senator named George McGovern. You might be familiar with McGovern. You might be familiar with McGovern. You might be familiar with that. that. that. gets over, start to realize that gets over, start to realize that gets over, start to realize that Washington Washington Washington isn't bad as you thought it was. It's isn't bad as you thought it was. It's isn't bad as you thought it was. It's worse. worse. worse. But, uh But, uh But, uh the ceremony, by the way, was human the ceremony, by the way, was human the ceremony, by the way, was human sacrifice. sacrifice. sacrifice. And the leader of that ceremony that And the leader of that ceremony that And the leader of that ceremony that night was George McGovern. night was George McGovern. night was George McGovern. That's why when we did the broken cross, That's why when we did the broken cross, That's why when we did the broken cross, we drew his picture into the broken we drew his picture into the broken we drew his picture into the broken cross as a person practicing human cross as a person practicing human cross as a person practicing human sacrifice. sacrifice. sacrifice. But, But, But, after the ceremony, I went down to San after the ceremony, I went down to San after the ceremony, I went down to San Antonio and decided that would be the Antonio and decided that would be the Antonio and decided that would be the perfect place. perfect place. perfect place. And I moved into San Antonio to watch And I moved into San Antonio to watch And I moved into San Antonio to watch all the drug traffic in the area and I all the drug traffic in the area and I all the drug traffic in the area and I was given a 13-state area. That totaled was given a 13-state area. That totaled was given a 13-state area. That totaled out to about 65,000 out to about 65,000 out to about 65,000 initiated witches and wizards, priests initiated witches and wizards, priests initiated witches and wizards, priests and priestesses. Now, that's just the and priestesses. Now, that's just the and priestesses. Now, that's just the staff of the church. That's not the staff of the church. That's not the staff of the church. That's not the congregation. So, if there's that many congregation. So, if there's that many congregation. So, if there's that many ministers in that area, you can imagine ministers in that area, you can imagine ministers in that area, you can imagine what the population is. And California, what the population is. And California, what the population is. And California, whereas most of the Grand Druids have whereas most of the Grand Druids have whereas most of the Grand Druids have many states like I did, I had 13, many states like I did, I had 13, many states like I did, I had 13, California has a Grand Druid all to California has a Grand Druid all to California has a Grand Druid all to itself because there's that many witches

itself because there's that many witches itself because there's that many witches in California. In fact, it's the most in California. In fact, it's the most in California. In fact, it's the most populated populated populated area in the world for witchcraft. area in the world for witchcraft. area in the world for witchcraft. And, uh the Bay Area just happens to And, uh the Bay Area just happens to And, uh the Bay Area just happens to have the most. have the most. have the most. But, anyway, But, anyway, But, anyway, this is where I lived. I only left it this is where I lived. I only left it this is where I lived. I only left it eight times a year eight times a year eight times a year to attend what we called council to attend what we called council to attend what we called council meetings. Now, to give you an idea, meetings. Now, to give you an idea, meetings. Now, to give you an idea, Monday was one of those council Monday was one of those council Monday was one of those council meetings. They hold them at eight times meetings. They hold them at eight times meetings. They hold them at eight times a year. May 1st, they held a council a year. May 1st, they held a council a year. May 1st, they held a council meeting and from our information, they meeting and from our information, they meeting and from our information, they held it in San Francisco. So, you were held it in San Francisco. So, you were held it in San Francisco. So, you were kind of close to it this time. Things kind of close to it this time. Things kind of close to it this time. Things went along fine. I enjoyed the money, went along fine. I enjoyed the money, went along fine. I enjoyed the money, power. I always thought they were kind power. I always thought they were kind power. I always thought they were kind of weird because they kept talking about of weird because they kept talking about of weird because they kept talking about controlling the world. And I thought, controlling the world. And I thought, controlling the world. And I thought, "Let's stay back with witchcraft, you "Let's stay back with witchcraft, you "Let's stay back with witchcraft, you know, this this world government thing, know, this this world government thing, know, this this world government thing, you know, they're a little weird. you know, they're a little weird. you know, they're a little weird. Witches are never going to control the Witches are never going to control the Witches are never going to control the world." And finally, on August the 1st, world." And finally, on August the 1st, world." And finally, on August the 1st, 1972, 1972, 1972, things changed. things changed. things changed. Courier from the London Embassy, a Courier from the London Embassy, a Courier from the London Embassy, a member of our United States State member of our United States State member of our United States State Department, arrived with a courier Department, arrived with a courier Department, arrived with a courier document pouch sealed with the crest of document pouch sealed with the crest of document pouch sealed with the crest of the State Department, brought it through the State Department, brought it through the State Department, brought it through customs unopened, nobody could touch it, customs unopened, nobody could touch it, customs unopened, nobody could touch it, brought it in San Antonio and I was brought it in San Antonio and I was brought it in San Antonio and I was hosting the meeting this time. It was on hosting the meeting this time. It was on hosting the meeting this time. It was on Lammas, August the 1st. The man came in, Lammas, August the 1st. The man came in, Lammas, August the 1st. The man came in, laid the pouch down in the temple room laid the pouch down in the temple room laid the pouch down in the temple room up in the casino building, walked out up in the casino building, walked out up in the casino building, walked out and left it. He wasn't to know what was and left it. He wasn't to know what was and left it. He wasn't to know what was in it. The door was locked, security in it. The door was locked, security in it. The door was locked, security guards were placed on the outside and guards were placed on the outside and guards were placed on the outside and Dr. Buckland took up what's called the

Dr. Buckland took up what's called the Dr. Buckland took up what's called the athame, the witches' ceremonial knife. athame, the witches' ceremonial knife. athame, the witches' ceremonial knife. He slit open the seal, He slit open the seal, He slit open the seal, unlocked everything and took out six unlocked everything and took out six unlocked everything and took out six letters. We'd seen letters like this letters. We'd seen letters like this letters. We'd seen letters like this before, no big deal. They had the crest before, no big deal. They had the crest before, no big deal. They had the crest of the Illuminati, which is on the back of the Illuminati, which is on the back of the Illuminati, which is on the back of your $1 bill, of your $1 bill, of your $1 bill, so you can look at it later, so you can look at it later, so you can look at it later, on them, sealed in wax, red wax. on them, sealed in wax, red wax. on them, sealed in wax, red wax. The only problem was that the first four The only problem was that the first four The only problem was that the first four were standard business. They only thing were standard business. They only thing were standard business. They only thing was exchange checks, you know, I you was exchange checks, you know, I you was exchange checks, you know, I you know, know, know, bribe checks and so on. Usually, bribe bribe checks and so on. Usually, bribe bribe checks and so on. Usually, bribe checks started about $500,000 to give checks started about $500,000 to give checks started about $500,000 to give you kind of an idea, you kind of an idea, you kind of an idea, and work up into the millions. But, then and work up into the millions. But, then and work up into the millions. But, then they've got almost all the money in the they've got almost all the money in the they've got almost all the money in the world. Why should they worry? You spend world. Why should they worry? You spend world. Why should they worry? You spend a $5 bill and you panic. a $5 bill and you panic. a $5 bill and you panic. For what a $5 bill feels like to you, a For what a $5 bill feels like to you, a For what a $5 bill feels like to you, a million dollars feels like to them. So, million dollars feels like to them. So, million dollars feels like to them. So, believe me, they've got the financial believe me, they've got the financial believe me, they've got the financial strength to do it. strength to do it. strength to do it. The fifth one was totally different. The fifth one was totally different. The fifth one was totally different. It's very thick, about 30 pages, and it It's very thick, about 30 pages, and it It's very thick, about 30 pages, and it was handwritten. Now, according to the was handwritten. Now, according to the was handwritten. Now, according to the laws of witchcraft, if anything is laws of witchcraft, if anything is laws of witchcraft, if anything is religious, it must be written in a religious, it must be written in a religious, it must be written in a special ink with a dip pen and the special ink with a dip pen and the special ink with a dip pen and the person who's writing it own handwriting.

person who's writing it own handwriting. person who's writing it own handwriting. Nobody, you know, you don't dictate it, Nobody, you know, you don't dictate it, Nobody, you know, you don't dictate it, it doesn't get typed up, nobody writes it doesn't get typed up, nobody writes it doesn't get typed up, nobody writes it for you. it for you. it for you. Now, in the Illuminati, the Rothschilds Now, in the Illuminati, the Rothschilds Now, in the Illuminati, the Rothschilds are not humans. They're not the just the are not humans. They're not the just the are not humans. They're not the just the richest family in the world. They are richest family in the world. They are richest family in the world. They are gods in human bodies, more more or less gods in human bodies, more more or less gods in human bodies, more more or less the counterfeit of what Jesus Christ was the counterfeit of what Jesus Christ was the counterfeit of what Jesus Christ was when he was on the earth. They're the when he was on the earth. They're the when he was on the earth. They're the son and daughters of Lucifer in human son and daughters of Lucifer in human son and daughters of Lucifer in human body and his wife and so on. body and his wife and so on. body and his wife and so on. So, that this council that I was on is So, that this council that I was on is So, that this council that I was on is the private priesthood of those gods. the private priesthood of those gods. the private priesthood of those gods. And when those gods talk, the priests And when those gods talk, the priests And when those gods talk, the priests listen and the priestesses listen, then listen and the priestesses listen, then listen and the priestesses listen, then they tell political people. That's why a they tell political people. That's why a they tell political people. That's why a handful of witches have so much power handful of witches have so much power handful of witches have so much power over so many political people because over so many political people because over so many political people because they're simply just like a tape recorder they're simply just like a tape recorder they're simply just like a tape recorder for some very powerful people that for some very powerful people that for some very powerful people that everybody else considers to be holy and everybody else considers to be holy and everybody else considers to be holy and to be gods. to be gods. to be gods. So, we opened this one in Philip So, we opened this one in Philip So, we opened this one in Philip Rothschild's handwriting and it would Rothschild's handwriting and it would Rothschild's handwriting and it would have been the same have been the same have been the same to where it was like, you know, the gods to where it was like, you know, the gods to where it was like, you know, the gods sent their own private message. So, we sent their own private message. So, we sent their own private message. So, we opened it up.

opened it up. opened it up. Dr. Buckland started reading it. Dr. Buckland started reading it. Dr. Buckland started reading it. It's a chart. It's a chart. It's a chart. Friend of mine, Dr. Tom Berry, has Friend of mine, Dr. Tom Berry, has Friend of mine, Dr. Tom Berry, has placed that chart in a 30-page book and placed that chart in a 30-page book and placed that chart in a 30-page book and we're proofing it now and Dr. Stewart we're proofing it now and Dr. Stewart we're proofing it now and Dr. Stewart Crane is going to publish it and we hope Crane is going to publish it and we hope Crane is going to publish it and we hope to have it in Christian hands in about 3 to have it in Christian hands in about 3 to have it in Christian hands in about 3 months. months. months. It's a step-by-step plan beginning in It's a step-by-step plan beginning in It's a step-by-step plan beginning in 1973, first of the year, to the end of 1973, first of the year, to the end of 1973, first of the year, to the end of 1980 1980 1980 to take over the world by taking over to take over the world by taking over to take over the world by taking over the United States. And before you think the United States. And before you think the United States. And before you think that that's impossible, I've watched the that that's impossible, I've watched the that that's impossible, I've watched the news over the past 5 and 1/2 years and news over the past 5 and 1/2 years and news over the past 5 and 1/2 years and they're not only on schedule, they're a they're not only on schedule, they're a they're not only on schedule, they're a year ahead of schedule. year ahead of schedule. year ahead of schedule. And when I start told people this 5 And when I start told people this 5 And when I start told people this 5 years ago, they thought I was crazy like years ago, they thought I was crazy like years ago, they thought I was crazy like a lot of people think now. a lot of people think now. a lot of people think now. When I told them that we were When I told them that we were When I told them that we were supposedly not going to have any fuel, supposedly not going to have any fuel, supposedly not going to have any fuel, although we were going to have it, although we were going to have it, although we were going to have it, and that the gasoline prices were going and that the gasoline prices were going and that the gasoline prices were going to go sky high. I even told them a crazy to go sky high. I even told them a crazy to go sky high. I even told them a crazy story that the farmers were going to go story that the farmers were going to go story that the farmers were going to go on strike and the coal mines were going on strike and the coal mines were going on strike and the coal mines were going to close down. to close down. to close down. Now, I wonder where I could have gotten Now, I wonder where I could have gotten Now, I wonder where I could have gotten a crazy idea like that. And I was saying a crazy idea like that. And I was saying a crazy idea like that. And I was saying it 5 years ago. Only when I went on the it 5 years ago. Only when I went on the it 5 years ago. Only when I went on the East Coast this time, nobody was East Coast this time, nobody was East Coast this time, nobody was laughing because they were getting cut laughing because they were getting cut laughing because they were getting cut back on electricity and people were only back on electricity and people were only back on electricity and people were only working 20 hours a week because there working 20 hours a week because there working 20 hours a week because there wasn't any coal.

So, after reading this, I thought, "Hmm, So, after reading this, I thought, "Hmm, these people are really crazy, you know, these people are really crazy, you know, these people are really crazy, you know, crazier and crazier." crazier and crazier." crazier and crazier." But, I stopped laughing when I read the But, I stopped laughing when I read the But, I stopped laughing when I read the sixth letter. It was in Philip sixth letter. It was in Philip sixth letter. It was in Philip Rothschild's handwriting, too. Rothschild's handwriting, too. Rothschild's handwriting, too. Now, before I tell you what's in it, I Now, before I tell you what's in it, I Now, before I tell you what's in it, I want to say something. The Mormon want to say something. The Mormon want to say something. The Mormon doctrine and the witchcraft doctrine are doctrine and the witchcraft doctrine are doctrine and the witchcraft doctrine are almost identical in how the world began. almost identical in how the world began. almost identical in how the world began. According to the witches, According to the witches, According to the witches, Lucifer chose his son and his daughter, Lucifer chose his son and his daughter, Lucifer chose his son and his daughter, which were married, to come to the world which were married, to come to the world which were married, to come to the world and lead the rest of his little kids and lead the rest of his little kids and lead the rest of his little kids down here. Believe it or not, he was down here. Believe it or not, he was down here. Believe it or not, he was supposed to land in a flying saucer. supposed to land in a flying saucer. supposed to land in a flying saucer. And they landed here and man was just And they landed here and man was just And they landed here and man was just more or less assuming their shape from more or less assuming their shape from more or less assuming their shape from apes apes apes and they intermarried with man and and they intermarried with man and and they intermarried with man and that's how that's how that's how well, the original people were the well, the original people were the well, the original people were the witches that arrived and their children witches that arrived and their children witches that arrived and their children became the witches and the ones that became the witches and the ones that became the witches and the ones that they didn't marry with are the mortals. they didn't marry with are the mortals. they didn't marry with are the mortals. If you remember Bewitched, you remember If you remember Bewitched, you remember If you remember Bewitched, you remember the doctrine of of witches and mortals. the doctrine of of witches and mortals. the doctrine of of witches and mortals. Now, I may seem a little crazy to you, Now, I may seem a little crazy to you, Now, I may seem a little crazy to you, but they firmly believe it. And that but they firmly believe it. And that but they firmly believe it. And that Adam, who had the ability to turn back Adam, who had the ability to turn back Adam, who had the ability to turn back into other lives again like everybody into other lives again like everybody into other lives again like everybody else did, did not else did, did not else did, did not because when the evilness of man settled because when the evilness of man settled because when the evilness of man settled into the garden and that's why the into the garden and that's why the into the garden and that's why the garden was bad. There's no original sin garden was bad. There's no original sin garden was bad. There's no original sin according to witches.

according to witches. according to witches. And Lucifer had planned to come and live And Lucifer had planned to come and live And Lucifer had planned to come and live on this world along with his children, on this world along with his children, on this world along with his children, but he couldn't because of all the but he couldn't because of all the but he couldn't because of all the evilness of man. evilness of man. evilness of man. And when they say that, I almost feel And when they say that, I almost feel And when they say that, I almost feel like they want to write Christian like they want to write Christian like they want to write Christian sometimes so the way the doctrine goes. sometimes so the way the doctrine goes. sometimes so the way the doctrine goes. But, But, But, Adam would come back Adam would come back Adam would come back to bring peace to the world and to to bring peace to the world and to to bring peace to the world and to unpollute it so his father could come unpollute it so his father could come unpollute it so his father could come back. Now, that's their doctrine. back. Now, that's their doctrine. back. Now, that's their doctrine. And when the sixth letter said, "We have And when the sixth letter said, "We have And when the sixth letter said, "We have found Adam to be in the world and he is found Adam to be in the world and he is found Adam to be in the world and he is ready to make peace so that his father ready to make peace so that his father ready to make peace so that his father can return." can return." can return." I knew enough about Revelations in the I knew enough about Revelations in the I knew enough about Revelations in the Christian Bible to say, "Hey, I'm in the Christian Bible to say, "Hey, I'm in the Christian Bible to say, "Hey, I'm in the wrong camp." wrong camp." wrong camp." And I And I And I asked a very stupid question at that asked a very stupid question at that asked a very stupid question at that moment. I I "Isn't this in the Christian moment. I I "Isn't this in the Christian moment. I I "Isn't this in the Christian Bible?" Now, witches teach that the Bible?" Now, witches teach that the Bible?" Now, witches teach that the Christian Bible is an absolute lie Christian Bible is an absolute lie Christian Bible is an absolute lie created by the god of evil named Jesus, created by the god of evil named Jesus, created by the god of evil named Jesus, okay? okay? okay? So, when I asked that, I almost got So, when I asked that, I almost got So, when I asked that, I almost got lynched. Sometimes, more or less like lynched. Sometimes, more or less like lynched. Sometimes, more or less like the Christians like to do when I'm 2 the Christians like to do when I'm 2 the Christians like to do when I'm 2 hours late.

hours late. hours late. I got to get you last somehow. So, I said, "Well, you know, I'm just So, I said, "Well, you know, I'm just kidding. Don't worry about it. I was kidding. Don't worry about it. I was kidding. Don't worry about it. I was just joking trying to lighten things just joking trying to lighten things just joking trying to lighten things up." They calmed down. I left, did some up." They calmed down. I left, did some up." They calmed down. I left, did some more drugs. Now, I was doing about $150 more drugs. Now, I was doing about $150 more drugs. Now, I was doing about $150 a day worth of crystal speed at the a day worth of crystal speed at the a day worth of crystal speed at the time. time. time. I weighed about 149 lbs, and I after I weighed about 149 lbs, and I after I weighed about 149 lbs, and I after looking at some of my rock friends like looking at some of my rock friends like looking at some of my rock friends like David Crosby that's doing $200 a day David Crosby that's doing $200 a day David Crosby that's doing $200 a day with the drugs now, with the drugs now, with the drugs now, I firmly believe that if the Lord hadn't I firmly believe that if the Lord hadn't I firmly believe that if the Lord hadn't saved me, I probably wouldn't have made saved me, I probably wouldn't have made saved me, I probably wouldn't have made it another year. it another year. it another year. At that time, from August the 1st on for At that time, from August the 1st on for At that time, from August the 1st on for the next 30 days, I thought of nothing the next 30 days, I thought of nothing the next 30 days, I thought of nothing but how to get out. but how to get out. but how to get out. But, even though I realized that the But, even though I realized that the But, even though I realized that the Christian Bible was telling the truth, Christian Bible was telling the truth, Christian Bible was telling the truth, it just never dawned on me because of it just never dawned on me because of it just never dawned on me because of the spirits inside me that if it was the spirits inside me that if it was the spirits inside me that if it was telling the truth in that, then telling the truth in that, then telling the truth in that, then salvation and Calvary were real also. salvation and Calvary were real also. salvation and Calvary were real also. So, I went on trying to think of a dozen So, I went on trying to think of a dozen So, I went on trying to think of a dozen places I could go hide in this world and places I could go hide in this world and places I could go hide in this world and marking everyone off that they'd find me marking everyone off that they'd find me marking everyone off that they'd find me any place I'd go. any place I'd go. any place I'd go. And deciding that since, you know, And deciding that since, you know, And deciding that since, you know, if I died, I'd just come back in another if I died, I'd just come back in another if I died, I'd just come back in another life, and that wouldn't be too good if life, and that wouldn't be too good if life, and that wouldn't be too good if they were running the world. So, what they were running the world. So, what they were running the world. So, what was I going to do?

was I going to do? was I going to do? Finally, Finally, Finally, God, the Lord Jesus Christ, I want to God, the Lord Jesus Christ, I want to God, the Lord Jesus Christ, I want to say that cuz I come from a world where say that cuz I come from a world where say that cuz I come from a world where the Lucifer is something God, too. the Lucifer is something God, too. the Lucifer is something God, too. Finally, the Lord Jesus Christ started Finally, the Lord Jesus Christ started Finally, the Lord Jesus Christ started moving for this, the best way I know how moving for this, the best way I know how moving for this, the best way I know how to put it. to put it. to put it. I don't believe in accidents. I don't I don't believe in accidents. I don't I don't believe in accidents. I don't believe that my salvation or anybody believe that my salvation or anybody believe that my salvation or anybody else's salvation was an accident. I else's salvation was an accident. I else's salvation was an accident. I believe in god incidents. I believe that believe in god incidents. I believe that believe in god incidents. I believe that God sets in motion the things to bring God sets in motion the things to bring God sets in motion the things to bring you about. You still have the choice, you about. You still have the choice, you about. You still have the choice, but many of you who don't know him but many of you who don't know him but many of you who don't know him tonight, the Lord brought you here tonight, the Lord brought you here tonight, the Lord brought you here whether you know it or not. Much of you whether you know it or not. Much of you whether you know it or not. Much of you were probably brought here by praying were probably brought here by praying were probably brought here by praying friends and relatives. friends and relatives. friends and relatives. A man found his daughter, a pastor by A man found his daughter, a pastor by A man found his daughter, a pastor by the name of Smith, found his daughter an the name of Smith, found his daughter an the name of Smith, found his daughter an initiated witch shortly thereafter. Who initiated witch shortly thereafter. Who initiated witch shortly thereafter. Who had He told me later, he said, "I I had He told me later, he said, "I I had He told me later, he said, "I I couldn't believe it. Here I was, I went couldn't believe it. Here I was, I went couldn't believe it. Here I was, I went to Baylor University. I was a minister to Baylor University. I was a minister to Baylor University. I was a minister in the Southern Baptist Church, and in the Southern Baptist Church, and in the Southern Baptist Church, and Baylor did everything but hit me over Baylor did everything but hit me over Baylor did everything but hit me over the head that there was no devil and no the head that there was no devil and no the head that there was no devil and no witches and no demons in this day and witches and no demons in this day and witches and no demons in this day and age." age." age." Much like many fundamental Bible Much like many fundamental Bible Much like many fundamental Bible colleges I know today.

colleges I know today. colleges I know today. He said, "So, I had to re- He said, "So, I had to re- He said, "So, I had to re- learn all over again. Instead of taking learn all over again. Instead of taking learn all over again. Instead of taking man's idea, I took the word of God. I man's idea, I took the word of God. I man's idea, I took the word of God. I found that Deuteronomy 18:18, 19, and 20 found that Deuteronomy 18:18, 19, and 20 found that Deuteronomy 18:18, 19, and 20 gave a list of witchcraft in the occult gave a list of witchcraft in the occult gave a list of witchcraft in the occult world. world. world. And that Acts 16:16, 17, 18, and 19 gave And that Acts 16:16, 17, 18, and 19 gave And that Acts 16:16, 17, 18, and 19 gave the power over witchcraft, what its the power over witchcraft, what its the power over witchcraft, what its power was, and how to handle its power power was, and how to handle its power power was, and how to handle its power and the power over it, which is and the power over it, which is and the power over it, which is the taking authority over the devil and the taking authority over the devil and the taking authority over the devil and the demons that are in witches. That's the demons that are in witches. That's the demons that are in witches. That's how they get their power. how they get their power. how they get their power. The stronger the witch, the more demons The stronger the witch, the more demons The stronger the witch, the more demons that they have allowed in. that they have allowed in. that they have allowed in. When they take a young person and they When they take a young person and they When they take a young person and they train them for witchcraft, they give train them for witchcraft, they give train them for witchcraft, they give them what lovingly, I guess, call it homework. lovingly, I guess, call it homework. They give them assignments that they're They give them assignments that they're They give them assignments that they're to do, and the assignments tear down to do, and the assignments tear down to do, and the assignments tear down every moral fiber and training that the every moral fiber and training that the every moral fiber and training that the person has. And just literally, they person has. And just literally, they person has. And just literally, they become a human chalice. They fill up become a human chalice. They fill up become a human chalice. They fill up with demons. with demons. with demons. As they do these things, they break down As they do these things, they break down As they do these things, they break down all the barriers holding the devil back.

all the barriers holding the devil back. all the barriers holding the devil back. And when they're done, they have a very And when they're done, they have a very And when they're done, they have a very programmed, very brainwashed, and very programmed, very brainwashed, and very programmed, very brainwashed, and very powerful supernatural witch or wizard. So, he prayed and he fasted. So, he prayed and he fasted. I heard Jack Hyles the other day. I I heard Jack Hyles the other day. I I heard Jack Hyles the other day. I guess I never realized until I heard him guess I never realized until I heard him guess I never realized until I heard him how little Christians pray and fast. how little Christians pray and fast. how little Christians pray and fast. He's been around a long time and says He's been around a long time and says He's been around a long time and says he's only met a handful of praying and he's only met a handful of praying and he's only met a handful of praying and fasting Christians, and I can believe it fasting Christians, and I can believe it fasting Christians, and I can believe it anymore. anymore. anymore. But, this minister prayed and he fasted. But, this minister prayed and he fasted. But, this minister prayed and he fasted. He said, "God, let me cross Lance He said, "God, let me cross Lance He said, "God, let me cross Lance Collins' path." Collins' path." Collins' path." That was my occult name. That was my occult name. That was my occult name. He prayed and he prayed, and finally he He prayed and he prayed, and finally he He prayed and he prayed, and finally he felt this is the time, and he got up one felt this is the time, and he got up one felt this is the time, and he got up one morning, Saturday morning, 2 days before morning, Saturday morning, 2 days before morning, Saturday morning, 2 days before Labor Day in 1972, and he went downtown, Labor Day in 1972, and he went downtown, Labor Day in 1972, and he went downtown, and he started going through the occult and he started going through the occult and he started going through the occult stores. stores. stores. Now, I never in the occult was never in Now, I never in the occult was never in Now, I never in the occult was never in the occult stores there much. And the the occult stores there much. And the the occult stores there much. And the one building that I lived in, there were one building that I lived in, there were one building that I lived in, there were two occult stores in that building two occult stores in that building two occult stores in that building downtown San Antonio. downtown San Antonio. downtown San Antonio. One day, one of the managers that One day, one of the managers that One day, one of the managers that Saturday morning had an overdose of Saturday morning had an overdose of Saturday morning had an overdose of drugs, was critical, and couldn't make drugs, was critical, and couldn't make drugs, was critical, and couldn't make it in. And I had to go unlock the place it in. And I had to go unlock the place it in. And I had to go unlock the place for the salesgirl to come in.

for the salesgirl to come in. for the salesgirl to come in. And I just unlocked, got all the cash And I just unlocked, got all the cash And I just unlocked, got all the cash fixed up, and everything was getting fixed up, and everything was getting fixed up, and everything was getting ready to leave. Hadn't been there more ready to leave. Hadn't been there more ready to leave. Hadn't been there more than about 5 minutes, and this pastor than about 5 minutes, and this pastor than about 5 minutes, and this pastor came in. came in. came in. I knew he was a Baptist the moment he I knew he was a Baptist the moment he I knew he was a Baptist the moment he walked through the door. walked through the door. walked through the door. He carried a big black Bible. He carried a big black Bible. He carried a big black Bible. You have to be in Southern Texas to You have to be in Southern Texas to You have to be in Southern Texas to understand. They don't go any place understand. They don't go any place understand. They don't go any place without a big black Thompson or without a big black Thompson or without a big black Thompson or something like that. You carry Scofields something like that. You carry Scofields something like that. You carry Scofields up here, they carry Thompsons down up here, they carry Thompsons down up here, they carry Thompsons down there. there. there. As one pastor says, "I like a rapid-fire As one pastor says, "I like a rapid-fire As one pastor says, "I like a rapid-fire Bible." Bible." Bible." But, But, But, he came in, and I remember telling he came in, and I remember telling he came in, and I remember telling Linda, the girl that was with me, "Oh, Linda, the girl that was with me, "Oh, Linda, the girl that was with me, "Oh, boy, here comes trouble." boy, here comes trouble." boy, here comes trouble." He walked up, and he said, He walked up, and he said, He walked up, and he said, "I'm looking for Lance Collins." And "I'm looking for Lance Collins." And "I'm looking for Lance Collins." And kind of braced myself, and I said, "I'm kind of braced myself, and I said, "I'm kind of braced myself, and I said, "I'm Lance Collins. Can I help you?" Lance Collins. Can I help you?" Lance Collins. Can I help you?" He said, "Well, I want to tell you about He said, "Well, I want to tell you about He said, "Well, I want to tell you about the love of Jesus." I said, "I don't the love of Jesus." I said, "I don't the love of Jesus." I said, "I don't want to hear it. want to hear it. want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. You take your I don't want to hear it. You take your I don't want to hear it. You take your Christian garbage, and you go somewhere Christian garbage, and you go somewhere Christian garbage, and you go somewhere else." I mean, the words very distinct. else." I mean, the words very distinct. else." I mean, the words very distinct. So, he started preaching anyway. He So, he started preaching anyway. He So, he started preaching anyway. He figured he was there. He just dug his figured he was there. He just dug his figured he was there. He just dug his heels in and opened up. heels in and opened up. heels in and opened up. Well, I got to hear him about two Well, I got to hear him about two Well, I got to hear him about two sentences, and the spirits in me took sentences, and the spirits in me took sentences, and the spirits in me took over, and they started cussing. He just over, and they started cussing. He just over, and they started cussing. He just kept on preaching.

kept on preaching. kept on preaching. So, I started reciting chants, demonic So, I started reciting chants, demonic So, I started reciting chants, demonic chants, out the block what he was doing. chants, out the block what he was doing. chants, out the block what he was doing. Usually, it got Christians scared, and Usually, it got Christians scared, and Usually, it got Christians scared, and they ran off. He didn't budge. He they ran off. He didn't budge. He they ran off. He didn't budge. He stopped. He said, "Well, well, I see. stopped. He said, "Well, well, I see. stopped. He said, "Well, well, I see. Ephesians 6:12. I'm not warring against Ephesians 6:12. I'm not warring against Ephesians 6:12. I'm not warring against Lance Collins. I'm warring against the Lance Collins. I'm warring against the Lance Collins. I'm warring against the demons inside him. So, since they want demons inside him. So, since they want demons inside him. So, since they want to talk to me, to talk to me, to talk to me, I order them to be silent in the name of I order them to be silent in the name of I order them to be silent in the name of Jesus." And he just started in a very Jesus." And he just started in a very Jesus." And he just started in a very powerful prayer pleading the blood of powerful prayer pleading the blood of powerful prayer pleading the blood of Jesus Christ and finally ending with Jesus Christ and finally ending with Jesus Christ and finally ending with this. this. this. He says, "I order in the name of Jesus He says, "I order in the name of Jesus He says, "I order in the name of Jesus the devil to stop giving you any power the devil to stop giving you any power the devil to stop giving you any power of witchcraft, of witchcraft, of witchcraft, and to stop giving you any of those and to stop giving you any of those and to stop giving you any of those benefits." He took one look at me and benefits." He took one look at me and benefits." He took one look at me and saw that I was on drugs and said, "And saw that I was on drugs and said, "And saw that I was on drugs and said, "And stop giving you drugs." Now, parents, stop giving you drugs." Now, parents, stop giving you drugs." Now, parents, listen to me. listen to me. listen to me. If your kids are on drugs and you've got If your kids are on drugs and you've got If your kids are on drugs and you've got a problem, stop preaching to them. Just a problem, stop preaching to them. Just a problem, stop preaching to them. Just order the demon inside them and the order the demon inside them and the order the demon inside them and the devil to stop supplying them the drugs. devil to stop supplying them the drugs. devil to stop supplying them the drugs. You'd be surprised, we've done it, how You'd be surprised, we've done it, how You'd be surprised, we've done it, how fast the pushers and dealers they're fast the pushers and dealers they're fast the pushers and dealers they're getting their drugs from get busted all getting their drugs from get busted all getting their drugs from get busted all of a sudden.

of a sudden. of a sudden. Try it. It works. And when he was done, he said, "Now, I'm And when he was done, he said, "Now, I'm going to pray and fast for you, Lance, going to pray and fast for you, Lance, going to pray and fast for you, Lance, until you get saved." And I I don't know until you get saved." And I I don't know until you get saved." And I I don't know why I said it. I I just said, "You're why I said it. I I just said, "You're why I said it. I I just said, "You're crazy, guy. Don't do that. Don't Don't crazy, guy. Don't do that. Don't Don't crazy, guy. Don't do that. Don't Don't do that." I remember I told dozens of do that." I remember I told dozens of do that." I remember I told dozens of witches, "I'm going to pray and fast witches, "I'm going to pray and fast witches, "I'm going to pray and fast till you get saved." Don't do that. One till you get saved." Don't do that. One till you get saved." Don't do that. One thing a demon does not like is praying thing a demon does not like is praying thing a demon does not like is praying and fasting. He turned around. He walked and fasting. He turned around. He walked and fasting. He turned around. He walked off. One thing that had intrigued I I off. One thing that had intrigued I I off. One thing that had intrigued I I kept trying to convince myself that I kept trying to convince myself that I kept trying to convince myself that I had shut up to listen to him cuz he was had shut up to listen to him cuz he was had shut up to listen to him cuz he was so weird. so weird. so weird. But, what it was was simply he had taken But, what it was was simply he had taken But, what it was was simply he had taken authority over the demons, and I had authority over the demons, and I had authority over the demons, and I had shut up, and I had heard the whole shut up, and I had heard the whole shut up, and I had heard the whole thing. thing. thing. I went on upstairs very shaken and not I went on upstairs very shaken and not I went on upstairs very shaken and not knowing why, very sick and not knowing knowing why, very sick and not knowing knowing why, very sick and not knowing why. I'd never felt like this in my why. I'd never felt like this in my why. I'd never felt like this in my life. I'd never come up against a life. I'd never come up against a life. I'd never come up against a Christian like this. Usually, I said, Christian like this. Usually, I said, Christian like this. Usually, I said, "I'm a witch," and they couldn't wait to "I'm a witch," and they couldn't wait to "I'm a witch," and they couldn't wait to find the nearest bomb shelter or crawl find the nearest bomb shelter or crawl find the nearest bomb shelter or crawl under the bed. under the bed. under the bed. Or get the straightjacket out. Or get the straightjacket out. Or get the straightjacket out. But, something about my eyes back then, But, something about my eyes back then, But, something about my eyes back then, they never questioned when I said I was they never questioned when I said I was they never questioned when I said I was a witch, they just took off running. So, a witch, they just took off running. So, a witch, they just took off running. So, I went upstairs, took out my drugs, my I went upstairs, took out my drugs, my I went upstairs, took out my drugs, my needle, did a fix, no problem. I had needle, did a fix, no problem. I had needle, did a fix, no problem. I had sent all the rest of my drugs out that sent all the rest of my drugs out that sent all the rest of my drugs out that night, big shipments that we had stored night, big shipments that we had stored night, big shipments that we had stored around the area, to other states because around the area, to other states because around the area, to other states because we had a huge shipment coming in that we had a huge shipment coming in that we had a huge shipment coming in that night.

night. night. I said, "Boy, this'll teach that dumb I said, "Boy, this'll teach that dumb I said, "Boy, this'll teach that dumb preacher. I'm going to go over and drop preacher. I'm going to go over and drop preacher. I'm going to go over and drop off a a kilo of it on his door just to off a a kilo of it on his door just to off a a kilo of it on his door just to teach him that the devil doesn't exist, teach him that the devil doesn't exist, teach him that the devil doesn't exist, and I don't get my drugs from the devil, and I don't get my drugs from the devil, and I don't get my drugs from the devil, and he can't stop me from getting drugs. and he can't stop me from getting drugs. and he can't stop me from getting drugs. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Besides, there's nothing wrong with Besides, there's nothing wrong with drugs. I'm just literally dying, eaten drugs. I'm just literally dying, eaten drugs. I'm just literally dying, eaten away from them, and there's nothing away from them, and there's nothing away from them, and there's nothing wrong with drugs." wrong with drugs." wrong with drugs." This is how the young people are today. This is how the young people are today. This is how the young people are today. Their friends are overdosing. Their friends are overdosing. Their friends are overdosing. I I talked with people 14 and 15. I I I talked with people 14 and 15. I I I talked with people 14 and 15. I said, "How many friends have you Do you said, "How many friends have you Do you said, "How many friends have you Do you lose every year?" "Oh, 10, 20. They all lose every year?" "Oh, 10, 20. They all lose every year?" "Oh, 10, 20. They all overdose on on angel dust or something, overdose on on angel dust or something, overdose on on angel dust or something, killer weed, different things. But, killer weed, different things. But, killer weed, different things. But, there's nothing wrong with drugs." I had there's nothing wrong with drugs." I had there's nothing wrong with drugs." I had asked one girl why she was so bummed asked one girl why she was so bummed asked one girl why she was so bummed out. She says, "Well, this is the fifth out. She says, "Well, this is the fifth out. She says, "Well, this is the fifth girlfriend that's ended up in the mental girlfriend that's ended up in the mental girlfriend that's ended up in the mental hospital not knowing who she is from hospital not knowing who she is from hospital not knowing who she is from taking acid and having a bad trip." I taking acid and having a bad trip." I taking acid and having a bad trip." I said, "Do you take it?" She says, "Sure, said, "Do you take it?" She says, "Sure, said, "Do you take it?" She says, "Sure, but I don't have any bad trips. There's but I don't have any bad trips. There's but I don't have any bad trips. There's nothing wrong with acid." nothing wrong with acid." nothing wrong with acid." When I got saved, When I got saved, When I got saved, I didn't have a friend that either I didn't have a friend that either I didn't have a friend that either wasn't in jail wasn't in jail wasn't in jail or wasn't dead. It'll do you something or wasn't dead. It'll do you something or wasn't dead. It'll do you something to you to walk into your friend's to you to walk into your friend's to you to walk into your friend's apartment and see them laying on the apartment and see them laying on the apartment and see them laying on the floor needle still in their veins and floor needle still in their veins and floor needle still in their veins and dead from an overdose or from strychnine dead from an overdose or from strychnine dead from an overdose or from strychnine being added to the drug because they being added to the drug because they being added to the drug because they wanted them out of the way.

I went upstairs. I said, "I said I I went upstairs. I said, "I said I didn't do the drug." Not to worry, more didn't do the drug." Not to worry, more didn't do the drug." Not to worry, more drugs coming in. Except midnight, my drugs coming in. Except midnight, my drugs coming in. Except midnight, my phone rang, and I was still speeding. I phone rang, and I was still speeding. I phone rang, and I was still speeding. I wasn't I hardly ever slept, hardly ever wasn't I hardly ever slept, hardly ever wasn't I hardly ever slept, hardly ever ate. ate. ate. Answered the phone. I said, "Yeah. Yeah, Answered the phone. I said, "Yeah. Yeah, Answered the phone. I said, "Yeah. Yeah, what's going on?" Private number, I knew what's going on?" Private number, I knew what's going on?" Private number, I knew it had to be somebody that knew it. it had to be somebody that knew it. it had to be somebody that knew it. And they told me a story that I didn't And they told me a story that I didn't And they told me a story that I didn't like too well. like too well. like too well. We'd paid off the border patrol. We'd paid off the border patrol. We'd paid off the border patrol. Everything was taken care of, standard Everything was taken care of, standard Everything was taken care of, standard run of drugs. Except that night, run of drugs. Except that night, run of drugs. Except that night, the ATF had heard that some illegal the ATF had heard that some illegal the ATF had heard that some illegal aliens were coming across the border. aliens were coming across the border. aliens were coming across the border. They called all the border patrol over, They called all the border patrol over, They called all the border patrol over, you know, from the regular stations, and you know, from the regular stations, and you know, from the regular stations, and they put on reserve units. they put on reserve units. they put on reserve units. And the guy that was so spaced out, he And the guy that was so spaced out, he And the guy that was so spaced out, he had sent for the little of pure speed. had sent for the little of pure speed. had sent for the little of pure speed. It was three huge cartons about this It was three huge cartons about this It was three huge cartons about this big, close to a million dollars worth of big, close to a million dollars worth of big, close to a million dollars worth of speed in the back of the car just speed in the back of the car just speed in the back of the car just sitting on the back seat with the lid sitting on the back seat with the lid sitting on the back seat with the lid off where everybody could see it. He off where everybody could see it. He off where everybody could see it. He wasn't worried. Drove up to the thing, wasn't worried. Drove up to the thing, wasn't worried. Drove up to the thing, and the guy wheels out a gun, says, and the guy wheels out a gun, says, and the guy wheels out a gun, says, "You're under arrest." It's all over in "You're under arrest." It's all over in "You're under arrest." It's all over in a matter of moments. a matter of moments. a matter of moments. Sure, he never even realized what Sure, he never even realized what Sure, he never even realized what happened. It was all because the happened. It was all because the happened. It was all because the preacher took authority over the devil.

preacher took authority over the devil. preacher took authority over the devil. When I got that call, come flooding When I got that call, come flooding When I got that call, come flooding back. You know, this guy's weird. You back. You know, this guy's weird. You back. You know, this guy's weird. You know, here he is stopping my drugs and know, here he is stopping my drugs and know, here he is stopping my drugs and that's No, no, that's just an accident. that's No, no, that's just an accident. that's No, no, that's just an accident. But it never had happened before. But it never had happened before. But it never had happened before. So, I realized after, you know, calming So, I realized after, you know, calming So, I realized after, you know, calming down about the situation that I was down about the situation that I was down about the situation that I was going to be going through withdrawal going to be going through withdrawal going to be going through withdrawal pretty soon. So, I made some local pretty soon. So, I made some local pretty soon. So, I made some local calls, nobody had anything. Most people calls, nobody had anything. Most people calls, nobody had anything. Most people around there were on heroin and not around there were on heroin and not around there were on heroin and not speed. speed. speed. So, I made some out-of-state calls and So, I made some out-of-state calls and So, I made some out-of-state calls and finally found in the state of Ohio some finally found in the state of Ohio some finally found in the state of Ohio some of the drugs that we had sent off had of the drugs that we had sent off had of the drugs that we had sent off had arrived and they would get them down arrived and they would get them down arrived and they would get them down there, but it'd be like Tuesday morning there, but it'd be like Tuesday morning there, but it'd be like Tuesday morning because of legal police action they were because of legal police action they were because of legal police action they were having up there. having up there. having up there. But that's too long for somebody on But that's too long for somebody on But that's too long for somebody on drugs as bad as I was. Sure enough, by drugs as bad as I was. Sure enough, by drugs as bad as I was. Sure enough, by Monday night, I almost didn't know who I Monday night, I almost didn't know who I Monday night, I almost didn't know who I was anymore. was anymore. was anymore. Bound and determined that I was going to Bound and determined that I was going to Bound and determined that I was going to get drugs no matter what had to be. I get drugs no matter what had to be. I get drugs no matter what had to be. I got a handgun, went to my car, got a handgun, went to my car, got a handgun, went to my car, started the car, started to drive out. I started the car, started to drive out. I started the car, started to drive out. I was going to go to every area around was going to go to every area around was going to go to every area around that I knew. If I had to kill the that I knew. If I had to kill the that I knew. If I had to kill the person, I was going to get drugs. And person, I was going to get drugs. And person, I was going to get drugs. And wrecked the car trying to get it out of wrecked the car trying to get it out of wrecked the car trying to get it out of the parking lot. the parking lot. the parking lot. Just got out of the car, left the gun Just got out of the car, left the gun Just got out of the car, left the gun and everything just sitting there.

and everything just sitting there. and everything just sitting there. Started walking down the street kind of Started walking down the street kind of Started walking down the street kind of in a daze. in a daze. in a daze. Trying to get myself together and came Trying to get myself together and came Trying to get myself together and came upon a movie theater. Big bright lights upon a movie theater. Big bright lights upon a movie theater. Big bright lights attracted me. Just paid my money. Wasn't attracted me. Just paid my money. Wasn't attracted me. Just paid my money. Wasn't paying attention to the movie, nothing paying attention to the movie, nothing paying attention to the movie, nothing went on in. Got about three rows back went on in. Got about three rows back went on in. Got about three rows back right from the screen. Here was some right from the screen. Here was some right from the screen. Here was some idiot up there idiot up there idiot up there waving a Bible all over the place and waving a Bible all over the place and waving a Bible all over the place and flash bulbs going off and it was a movie flash bulbs going off and it was a movie flash bulbs going off and it was a movie called The Cross and the Switchblade. called The Cross and the Switchblade. called The Cross and the Switchblade. As I got mad about this, what am I into As I got mad about this, what am I into As I got mad about this, what am I into now? Stop. I started getting intrigued now? Stop. I started getting intrigued now? Stop. I started getting intrigued with a character named Nicky Cruz. And I with a character named Nicky Cruz. And I with a character named Nicky Cruz. And I guess I probably got everybody in that guess I probably got everybody in that guess I probably got everybody in that theater mad at me because I kept yelling theater mad at me because I kept yelling theater mad at me because I kept yelling at David Wilkerson, "Leave me alone, at David Wilkerson, "Leave me alone, at David Wilkerson, "Leave me alone, preacher. Don't Christian leave me preacher. Don't Christian leave me preacher. Don't Christian leave me alone. He's just fine the way he is." alone. He's just fine the way he is." alone. He's just fine the way he is." All the way through the movie cussing All the way through the movie cussing All the way through the movie cussing this guy out and telling them to leave this guy out and telling them to leave this guy out and telling them to leave Nicky Cruz alone. Nicky Cruz alone. Nicky Cruz alone. Finally, something very weird happened. Finally, something very weird happened. Finally, something very weird happened. Now, we knew that Christians talked Now, we knew that Christians talked Now, we knew that Christians talked about being born again. But then, born about being born again. But then, born about being born again. But then, born again was a phrase used by the Masons again was a phrase used by the Masons again was a phrase used by the Masons and a phrase used by the witches. Didn't and a phrase used by the witches. Didn't and a phrase used by the witches. Didn't mean anything. But we'd been taught by mean anything. But we'd been taught by mean anything. But we'd been taught by the doctrine of astrology, which by the the doctrine of astrology, which by the the doctrine of astrology, which by the way, it takes three things to practice way, it takes three things to practice way, it takes three things to practice witchcraft, astrology, herbs, and witchcraft, astrology, herbs, and witchcraft, astrology, herbs, and jewelry or talismans.

jewelry or talismans. jewelry or talismans. So, witchcraft or astrology I'd learned So, witchcraft or astrology I'd learned So, witchcraft or astrology I'd learned from a very early child. One thing I'd from a very early child. One thing I'd from a very early child. One thing I'd been taught was I was born a certain been taught was I was born a certain been taught was I was born a certain personality. The stars had decided what personality. The stars had decided what personality. The stars had decided what my personality was going to be like. And my personality was going to be like. And my personality was going to be like. And there was no way, no right in there was no way, no right in there was no way, no right in witchcraft, no nothing that would ever witchcraft, no nothing that would ever witchcraft, no nothing that would ever change my personality. If I was bad, I change my personality. If I was bad, I change my personality. If I was bad, I was Sorry, I didn't consider myself too was Sorry, I didn't consider myself too was Sorry, I didn't consider myself too bad. I mean, I could have always been a bad. I mean, I could have always been a bad. I mean, I could have always been a Christian, that would have been Christian, that would have been Christian, that would have been terrible. So, I sat there and I watched terrible. So, I sat there and I watched terrible. So, I sat there and I watched him him him and he changed. He wasn't just as and he changed. He wasn't just as and he changed. He wasn't just as saying, "I'm born again." He changed. saying, "I'm born again." He changed. saying, "I'm born again." He changed. Now, listen to me tonight. If you walked Now, listen to me tonight. If you walked Now, listen to me tonight. If you walked the aisle and you've given your heart to the aisle and you've given your heart to the aisle and you've given your heart to God and there wasn't a complete God and there wasn't a complete God and there wasn't a complete turnaround, a complete change, and you turnaround, a complete change, and you turnaround, a complete change, and you went back to the way that you were 5 went back to the way that you were 5 went back to the way that you were 5 minutes before you walked that aisle, minutes before you walked that aisle, minutes before you walked that aisle, something is wrong. I'm not a Billy something is wrong. I'm not a Billy something is wrong. I'm not a Billy Graham that will have you say three Graham that will have you say three Graham that will have you say three words and say you're saved. It's in the words and say you're saved. It's in the words and say you're saved. It's in the fruit. And if there has not been a fruit. And if there has not been a fruit. And if there has not been a change in your life, something's wrong. change in your life, something's wrong. change in your life, something's wrong. And I got up and I walked out of that And I got up and I walked out of that And I got up and I walked out of that theater theater theater in utter confusion. Here was another in utter confusion. Here was another in utter confusion. Here was another thing that was in the word of God that thing that was in the word of God that thing that was in the word of God that was happening. I walked on out, man was happening. I walked on out, man was happening. I walked on out, man walked up. About a dozen of us, I guess, walked up. About a dozen of us, I guess, walked up. About a dozen of us, I guess, were walking out of the theater at the were walking out of the theater at the were walking out of the theater at the one time. He walked up and passed one one time. He walked up and passed one one time. He walked up and passed one tract out. He gave it to me. He turned tract out. He gave it to me. He turned tract out. He gave it to me. He turned around, didn't say much. He just said, around, didn't say much. He just said, around, didn't say much. He just said, "This is for you." Turned around and "This is for you." Turned around and "This is for you." Turned around and walked off. The tract was called walked off. The tract was called walked off. The tract was called Bewitched. So, I sat there and I read. I Bewitched. So, I sat there and I read. I Bewitched. So, I sat there and I read. I said, "Hmm, this guy's pretty smart." He said, "Hmm, this guy's pretty smart." He said, "Hmm, this guy's pretty smart." He says that Bewitched is put on by the says that Bewitched is put on by the says that Bewitched is put on by the witches. Well, I knew that. My foster

witches. Well, I knew that. My foster witches. Well, I knew that. My foster mother was one of the producers. I mother was one of the producers. I mother was one of the producers. I practically grew up on the sets. I sat practically grew up on the sets. I sat practically grew up on the sets. I sat there and I watched the rest of the there and I watched the rest of the there and I watched the rest of the tract, Ouija board being run by demons. tract, Ouija board being run by demons. tract, Ouija board being run by demons. Well, we knew that. That's why witches Well, we knew that. That's why witches Well, we knew that. That's why witches didn't use Ouija boards. We let the didn't use Ouija boards. We let the didn't use Ouija boards. We let the Christians use it. So, I read on. But Christians use it. So, I read on. But Christians use it. So, I read on. But the one thing I could not get over was the one thing I could not get over was the one thing I could not get over was this hell thing with the flames and the this hell thing with the flames and the this hell thing with the flames and the devil because witches don't believe in devil because witches don't believe in devil because witches don't believe in the devil. Satanists do not witches. So, the devil. Satanists do not witches. So, the devil. Satanists do not witches. So, I said, "Ah, this guy's so right, but I said, "Ah, this guy's so right, but I said, "Ah, this guy's so right, but he's probably just a dumb Christian." he's probably just a dumb Christian." he's probably just a dumb Christian." Threw it in the water, walked on. Threw it in the water, walked on. Threw it in the water, walked on. Started going to go back to my Started going to go back to my Started going to go back to my apartment, got in the casino building, apartment, got in the casino building, apartment, got in the casino building, heard the music coming from one of our heard the music coming from one of our heard the music coming from one of our nightclubs there called the Club nightclubs there called the Club nightclubs there called the Club Aquarius. Decided to go on over. Nobody Aquarius. Decided to go on over. Nobody Aquarius. Decided to go on over. Nobody there that I knew except the staff. So, there that I knew except the staff. So, there that I knew except the staff. So, I went on back and locked the door to I went on back and locked the door to I went on back and locked the door to the manager's office and I sat down. the manager's office and I sat down. the manager's office and I sat down. I said, "I got to think this thing out. I said, "I got to think this thing out. I said, "I got to think this thing out. I'd like to talk to a Christian." I was I'd like to talk to a Christian." I was I'd like to talk to a Christian." I was talking to a man on the phone today, talking to a man on the phone today, talking to a man on the phone today, Jack Chick. He was going over all the Jack Chick. He was going over all the Jack Chick. He was going over all the people that he had found in his people that he had found in his people that he had found in his investigations that were on the investigations that were on the investigations that were on the Illuminati payroll that were ministers, Illuminati payroll that were ministers, Illuminati payroll that were ministers, supposed to be fundamental ministers.

supposed to be fundamental ministers. supposed to be fundamental ministers. And I said, "Yeah, I know, Jack." As I And I said, "Yeah, I know, Jack." As I And I said, "Yeah, I know, Jack." As I sat in that manager's office that night, sat in that manager's office that night, sat in that manager's office that night, he knew my testimony. I said, "My he knew my testimony. I said, "My he knew my testimony. I said, "My biggest problem was I spent 2 hours biggest problem was I spent 2 hours biggest problem was I spent 2 hours trying to think of a pastor in the town trying to think of a pastor in the town trying to think of a pastor in the town that we did not have on our payroll." that we did not have on our payroll." that we did not have on our payroll." Well, there were pastors, that's why I Well, there were pastors, that's why I Well, there were pastors, that's why I didn't know them because they weren't on didn't know them because they weren't on didn't know them because they weren't on our payroll. our payroll. our payroll. And finally, I remembered that just the And finally, I remembered that just the And finally, I remembered that just the night before one of our witches, which night before one of our witches, which night before one of our witches, which was a prostitute in the area in downtown was a prostitute in the area in downtown was a prostitute in the area in downtown San Antonio, had come in screaming in San Antonio, had come in screaming in San Antonio, had come in screaming in the Club Aquarius and I wasn't in the the Club Aquarius and I wasn't in the the Club Aquarius and I wasn't in the mood to hear any screaming, particularly mood to hear any screaming, particularly mood to hear any screaming, particularly from her at the moment, going through from her at the moment, going through from her at the moment, going through withdrawal. But she was complaining that withdrawal. But she was complaining that withdrawal. But she was complaining that she was going bankrupt. And what the she was going bankrupt. And what the she was going bankrupt. And what the problem was was her area was over by the problem was was her area was over by the problem was was her area was over by the Greyhound bus station, she'd be over Greyhound bus station, she'd be over Greyhound bus station, she'd be over there prostituting, and some idiots from there prostituting, and some idiots from there prostituting, and some idiots from a Christian coffee house would come over a Christian coffee house would come over a Christian coffee house would come over and preach to the guys that she was and preach to the guys that she was and preach to the guys that she was propositioning. That can really put you propositioning. That can really put you propositioning. That can really put you out of business. I mean, no Nobody's out of business. I mean, no Nobody's out of business. I mean, no Nobody's going to walk off with a prostitute with going to walk off with a prostitute with going to walk off with a prostitute with somebody telling them about hell at the somebody telling them about hell at the somebody telling them about hell at the same moment. same moment. same moment. So, she decided we had to do something So, she decided we had to do something So, she decided we had to do something about the place and I told her to get about the place and I told her to get about the place and I told her to get lost, but I remembered it. And I said, lost, but I remembered it. And I said, lost, but I remembered it. And I said, "Well, that's only eight blocks away.

"Well, that's only eight blocks away. "Well, that's only eight blocks away. It's only 2:00 in the morning. Nobody'd It's only 2:00 in the morning. Nobody'd It's only 2:00 in the morning. Nobody'd be in bed at 2:00 in the morning." be in bed at 2:00 in the morning." be in bed at 2:00 in the morning." Witches are night people, you know. Witches are night people, you know. Witches are night people, you know. Took off walking on over there. And the Took off walking on over there. And the Took off walking on over there. And the place had a reputation of its own. Just place had a reputation of its own. Just place had a reputation of its own. Just 3 months earlier, it had been a 3 months earlier, it had been a 3 months earlier, it had been a burlesque place, show bar with strippers burlesque place, show bar with strippers burlesque place, show bar with strippers in it. in it. in it. Baptist preacher said, "Enough is Baptist preacher said, "Enough is Baptist preacher said, "Enough is enough. We don't need this down here." enough. We don't need this down here." enough. We don't need this down here." He goes in, jumps up on the bar stool up He goes in, jumps up on the bar stool up He goes in, jumps up on the bar stool up on the bar, shoves two strippers in the on the bar, shoves two strippers in the on the bar, shoves two strippers in the middle of their act off the bar, and middle of their act off the bar, and middle of their act off the bar, and starts preaching. 15 minutes later, starts preaching. 15 minutes later, starts preaching. 15 minutes later, the two strippers have pulled the the two strippers have pulled the the two strippers have pulled the curtains down off the wall, wrapped them curtains down off the wall, wrapped them curtains down off the wall, wrapped them around them, kneeling down to the bar, around them, kneeling down to the bar, around them, kneeling down to the bar, giving their heart to the Lord. They're giving their heart to the Lord. They're giving their heart to the Lord. They're still Christians this day, by the way. I still Christians this day, by the way. I still Christians this day, by the way. I know them. The man and woman that owns know them. The man and woman that owns know them. The man and woman that owns the place is praying, giving their heart the place is praying, giving their heart the place is praying, giving their heart to the Lord. Three members of the to the Lord. Three members of the to the Lord. Three members of the four-piece band are. Two of the three four-piece band are. Two of the three four-piece band are. Two of the three bartenders and about 15 of the bartenders and about 15 of the bartenders and about 15 of the customers. That's a quick revival. I'd customers. That's a quick revival. I'd customers. That's a quick revival. I'd like to have that quick. like to have that quick. like to have that quick. So, I went on over there. Now, they had So, I went on over there. Now, they had So, I went on over there. Now, they had turned the the deeds to this place when turned the the deeds to this place when turned the the deeds to this place when they got saved. This is what I mean they got saved. This is what I mean they got saved. This is what I mean about a change in your life. They could about a change in your life. They could about a change in your life. They could have rented the building out. They took have rented the building out. They took have rented the building out. They took the deed and they gave it to one of the the deed and they gave it to one of the the deed and they gave it to one of the Baptist churches in the area and said, Baptist churches in the area and said, Baptist churches in the area and said, "Do what you want with it." Just turned "Do what you want with it." Just turned "Do what you want with it." Just turned it into a Christian coffee house. What it into a Christian coffee house. What it into a Christian coffee house. What better way? So, I went over, opened the better way? So, I went over, opened the better way? So, I went over, opened the door, and it was supposed to close at door, and it was supposed to close at door, and it was supposed to close at midnight according to the sign, but the midnight according to the sign, but the midnight according to the sign, but the door was unlocked. So, I went on in and door was unlocked. So, I went on in and door was unlocked. So, I went on in and one guy was there bent over the Coke one guy was there bent over the Coke one guy was there bent over the Coke fountain. You know, they fountain. You know, they fountain. You know, they changed the booze over for Coke. That's changed the booze over for Coke. That's changed the booze over for Coke. That's what some Christians haven't done. And what some Christians haven't done. And what some Christians haven't done. And he was sitting there working on the Coke he was sitting there working on the Coke he was sitting there working on the Coke fountain and I went in and we started fountain and I went in and we started fountain and I went in and we started talking.

talking. talking. He started witnessing to me. Now, I have He started witnessing to me. Now, I have He started witnessing to me. Now, I have nothing against the four spiritual laws nothing against the four spiritual laws nothing against the four spiritual laws or any set plan like the Roman trail or or any set plan like the Roman trail or or any set plan like the Roman trail or anything like this. They're they're anything like this. They're they're anything like this. They're they're fine. They've won thousands of souls. fine. They've won thousands of souls. fine. They've won thousands of souls. But that particular plan didn't mean But that particular plan didn't mean But that particular plan didn't mean anything to me. I wasn't even interested anything to me. I wasn't even interested anything to me. I wasn't even interested in it because primarily, I didn't in it because primarily, I didn't in it because primarily, I didn't believe totally in the word of God. believe totally in the word of God. believe totally in the word of God. And I wanted something that would deal And I wanted something that would deal And I wanted something that would deal with my immediate problems and I wasn't with my immediate problems and I wasn't with my immediate problems and I wasn't hearing anything. Finally, hearing anything. Finally, hearing anything. Finally, he realized that he needed some help. he realized that he needed some help. he realized that he needed some help. So, he called up his pastor. Now, as So, he called up his pastor. Now, as So, he called up his pastor. Now, as everybody knows, nobody calls their everybody knows, nobody calls their everybody knows, nobody calls their pastor at 3:00 in the morning. Do they? pastor at 3:00 in the morning. Do they? pastor at 3:00 in the morning. Do they? No. Just all the time. No. Just all the time. No. Just all the time. So, he called him up. The pastor says, So, he called him up. The pastor says, So, he called him up. The pastor says, "Well, we've been praying and fasting "Well, we've been praying and fasting "Well, we've been praying and fasting for this guy along with some other for this guy along with some other for this guy along with some other churches. We'll get right on it." I churches. We'll get right on it." I churches. We'll get right on it." I imagine he probably called up a bunch of imagine he probably called up a bunch of imagine he probably called up a bunch of people. And he come back and said, "Now, people. And he come back and said, "Now, people. And he come back and said, "Now, Lauren, this is out of my hands." The Lauren, this is out of my hands." The Lauren, this is out of my hands." The man's name was Claude Elmore. He said, man's name was Claude Elmore. He said, man's name was Claude Elmore. He said, "This is out of my hands. I don't know "This is out of my hands. I don't know "This is out of my hands. I don't know the first thing about witchcraft. I the first thing about witchcraft. I the first thing about witchcraft. I don't know the first thing about the don't know the first thing about the don't know the first thing about the devil's kingdom. But you do." And he devil's kingdom. But you do." And he devil's kingdom. But you do." And he quoted Luke quoted Luke quoted Luke chapter 10 where the Lord had saw the chapter 10 where the Lord had saw the chapter 10 where the Lord had saw the devil fall from heaven and we had power devil fall from heaven and we had power devil fall from heaven and we had power over the devils. He said, "Now, you were over the devils. He said, "Now, you were over the devils. He said, "Now, you were there when it happened. You educate me there when it happened. You educate me there when it happened. You educate me right now. What scriptures do I give right now. What scriptures do I give right now. What scriptures do I give this man?" And he said, "I'd like to this man?" And he said, "I'd like to this man?" And he said, "I'd like to read you something." He opened his Bible read you something." He opened his Bible read you something." He opened his Bible to 2nd Timothy 1:7. It is the best to 2nd Timothy 1:7. It is the best to 2nd Timothy 1:7. It is the best scripture in the world to witness to scripture in the world to witness to scripture in the world to witness to anybody in the occult.

anybody in the occult. anybody in the occult. Because when you're in the occult, Because when you're in the occult, Because when you're in the occult, there's one thing that you do not have. there's one thing that you do not have. there's one thing that you do not have. You do not have a mind without fear 24 You do not have a mind without fear 24 You do not have a mind without fear 24 hours a day. You live in a nightmare hours a day. You live in a nightmare hours a day. You live in a nightmare world and you try to convince yourself world and you try to convince yourself world and you try to convince yourself by brainwashing yourself that you're not by brainwashing yourself that you're not by brainwashing yourself that you're not unhappy. And he sat there and he said, unhappy. And he sat there and he said, unhappy. And he sat there and he said, "God can remake your mind and take away "God can remake your mind and take away "God can remake your mind and take away the fear." And when he said, "Take away the fear." And when he said, "Take away the fear." And when he said, "Take away the fear," I said, "Let's get with this the fear," I said, "Let's get with this the fear," I said, "Let's get with this thing right now." And he started praying thing right now." And he started praying thing right now." And he started praying with me and he led me in a prayer of with me and he led me in a prayer of with me and he led me in a prayer of salvation. And I remember when I closed, salvation. And I remember when I closed, salvation. And I remember when I closed, I said, "Lord, I want your forgiveness. I said, "Lord, I want your forgiveness. I said, "Lord, I want your forgiveness. I want to miss hell. I believe in it I want to miss hell. I believe in it I want to miss hell. I believe in it now. But I want you to take this fear now. But I want you to take this fear now. But I want you to take this fear out of my life." And I was just shaking, out of my life." And I was just shaking, out of my life." And I was just shaking, scared to death somebody's going to walk scared to death somebody's going to walk scared to death somebody's going to walk through the door anytime and see me in through the door anytime and see me in through the door anytime and see me in this place and report me. I said, "Lord, this place and report me. I said, "Lord, this place and report me. I said, "Lord, take the fear away." And when I got up take the fear away." And when I got up take the fear away." And when I got up out of there, I didn't have any fear. In out of there, I didn't have any fear. In out of there, I didn't have any fear. In fact, I walked back, went right on in my fact, I walked back, went right on in my fact, I walked back, went right on in my apartment, sat down, took a Bible with apartment, sat down, took a Bible with apartment, sat down, took a Bible with me. And when I went down the next day, I me. And when I went down the next day, I me. And when I went down the next day, I was reading the Bible walking into the was reading the Bible walking into the was reading the Bible walking into the occult store. The fear was so far gone, occult store. The fear was so far gone, occult store. The fear was so far gone, I almost got myself killed. When God does it, he does it right.

When God does it, he does it right. I've been trying to minister to people I've been trying to minister to people I've been trying to minister to people in the occult for a long time. We've in the occult for a long time. We've in the occult for a long time. We've really been spinning our wheels for 5 really been spinning our wheels for 5 really been spinning our wheels for 5 and 1/2 years. We've gotten about 500 and 1/2 years. We've gotten about 500 and 1/2 years. We've gotten about 500 people saved. About 50 of them have been people saved. About 50 of them have been people saved. About 50 of them have been killed. killed. killed. When I was here last, we'd been in When I was here last, we'd been in When I was here last, we'd been in prayer for 2 weeks about a new idea that prayer for 2 weeks about a new idea that prayer for 2 weeks about a new idea that we felt would work. And that was the we felt would work. And that was the we felt would work. And that was the retreat for the occult to go to. This retreat for the occult to go to. This retreat for the occult to go to. This Monday on their New Year's Day. Couldn't Monday on their New Year's Day. Couldn't Monday on their New Year's Day. Couldn't have been arranged better. We didn't do have been arranged better. We didn't do have been arranged better. We didn't do it on purpose, but it was perfect. While it on purpose, but it was perfect. While it on purpose, but it was perfect. While their grand jury was remanding, our their grand jury was remanding, our their grand jury was remanding, our rehab center opened. rehab center opened. rehab center opened. First candidate is already in it. First candidate is already in it. First candidate is already in it. Right now, Right now, Right now, coming from Maryland is a girl that's coming from Maryland is a girl that's coming from Maryland is a girl that's the second most powerful person that had the second most powerful person that had the second most powerful person that had ever left the Illuminati, Philip ever left the Illuminati, Philip ever left the Illuminati, Philip Rothschild's own girlfriend, teenage Rothschild's own girlfriend, teenage Rothschild's own girlfriend, teenage girlfriend, leaving, left the cult from girlfriend, leaving, left the cult from girlfriend, leaving, left the cult from the 11th richest family found out about the house going to be found out about the house going to be open before our plans to release the open before our plans to release the open before our plans to release the news through Chick Publications Tracts news through Chick Publications Tracts news through Chick Publications Tracts and the phone numbers to go with it ever and the phone numbers to go with it ever and the phone numbers to go with it ever came out. They're not even off the press came out. They're not even off the press came out. They're not even off the press yet and the occult world already knows yet and the occult world already knows yet and the occult world already knows and is calling hotline numbers that and is calling hotline numbers that and is calling hotline numbers that aren't even published yet. They somehow aren't even published yet. They somehow aren't even published yet. They somehow found the numbers.

found the numbers. found the numbers. Another girl was saved 2 days ago. I Another girl was saved 2 days ago. I Another girl was saved 2 days ago. I don't even know who she is. I'm holding don't even know who she is. I'm holding don't even know who she is. I'm holding my breath because she knows me. my breath because she knows me. my breath because she knows me. Jack Chick got a call today that a girl Jack Chick got a call today that a girl Jack Chick got a call today that a girl walked into a Christian bookstore and walked into a Christian bookstore and walked into a Christian bookstore and said, "I hear John Todd's still alive." said, "I hear John Todd's still alive." said, "I hear John Todd's still alive." And Jack said, "Yes, And Jack said, "Yes, And Jack said, "Yes, he's been alive for 5 and 1/2 years." he's been alive for 5 and 1/2 years." he's been alive for 5 and 1/2 years." And he said, "Yes, well, if he can be And he said, "Yes, well, if he can be And he said, "Yes, well, if he can be alive for 5 and 1/2 years, I can be alive for 5 and 1/2 years, I can be alive for 5 and 1/2 years, I can be alive for 5 and 1/2 years. I want to alive for 5 and 1/2 years. I want to alive for 5 and 1/2 years. I want to become a Christian and get out." Now, become a Christian and get out." Now, become a Christian and get out." Now, that that that is sweeping. That type of news is is sweeping. That type of news is is sweeping. That type of news is sweeping. You may not understand what sweeping. You may not understand what sweeping. You may not understand what that means, that means, that means, but if you were in East Berlin trying to but if you were in East Berlin trying to but if you were in East Berlin trying to get to West Berlin and there was a wall get to West Berlin and there was a wall get to West Berlin and there was a wall of death between you, of death between you, of death between you, you'd know what it means. If they tore you'd know what it means. If they tore you'd know what it means. If they tore that Berlin Wall down, you could imagine that Berlin Wall down, you could imagine that Berlin Wall down, you could imagine the East Berliners, how many would be the East Berliners, how many would be the East Berliners, how many would be flooding to West Berlin. Well, that wall flooding to West Berlin. Well, that wall flooding to West Berlin. Well, that wall of fear and death that the Illuminati of fear and death that the Illuminati of fear and death that the Illuminati has so strongly built up has just been has so strongly built up has just been has so strongly built up has just been shattered. We have done in the last shattered. We have done in the last shattered. We have done in the last month things on purpose that they have month things on purpose that they have month things on purpose that they have promised the occult world would never promised the occult world would never promised the occult world would never happen. Isaac Bonewits, the Rothschild's happen. Isaac Bonewits, the Rothschild's happen. Isaac Bonewits, the Rothschild's own enforcer and one of those 13 top own enforcer and one of those 13 top own enforcer and one of those 13 top witches, lives in Frisco. He promised witches, lives in Frisco. He promised witches, lives in Frisco. He promised that the number one witch craft city in that the number one witch craft city in that the number one witch craft city in the United States I would never preach the United States I would never preach the United States I would never preach in, San Francisco. We preached there 2 in, San Francisco. We preached there 2 in, San Francisco. We preached there 2 Sundays ago. He's got a lot of Sundays ago. He's got a lot of Sundays ago. He's got a lot of explaining to do. And the word is explaining to do. And the word is explaining to do. And the word is getting around. We need your prayers.

getting around. We need your prayers. getting around. We need your prayers. There's a revival breaking open in the There's a revival breaking open in the There's a revival breaking open in the occult world now. They've gotten the occult world now. They've gotten the occult world now. They've gotten the word there's a way out. I'm just going word there's a way out. I'm just going word there's a way out. I'm just going to have to start praying for three or to have to start praying for three or to have to start praying for three or four more buildings cuz if this car load four more buildings cuz if this car load four more buildings cuz if this car load gets here, we're not going to have much gets here, we're not going to have much gets here, we're not going to have much more room. We got a four-bedroom house more room. We got a four-bedroom house more room. We got a four-bedroom house that can fill up pretty quick with a that can fill up pretty quick with a that can fill up pretty quick with a bunch of witches in it. So, by the way, bunch of witches in it. So, by the way, bunch of witches in it. So, by the way, we need your prayers just for that. we need your prayers just for that. we need your prayers just for that. You've never been in a in a situation You've never been in a in a situation You've never been in a in a situation till you have about 15 witches till you have about 15 witches till you have about 15 witches all around you at one time all with all around you at one time all with all around you at one time all with different problems. My poor wife, she different problems. My poor wife, she different problems. My poor wife, she couldn't come with me tonight cuz she's couldn't come with me tonight cuz she's couldn't come with me tonight cuz she's sitting up trying to get this one girl sitting up trying to get this one girl sitting up trying to get this one girl through it right now. So, we do need through it right now. So, we do need through it right now. So, we do need your prayers. your prayers. your prayers. I want to thank the people who did take I want to thank the people who did take I want to thank the people who did take envelopes and send them. I think envelopes and send them. I think envelopes and send them. I think something like 500 envelopes were taken something like 500 envelopes were taken something like 500 envelopes were taken that night and we received them. But, that night and we received them. But, that night and we received them. But, those 10 helped get that house open and those 10 helped get that house open and those 10 helped get that house open and I want to thank the people who sent I want to thank the people who sent I want to thank the people who sent them. But, I'm asking your prayers. We them. But, I'm asking your prayers. We them. But, I'm asking your prayers. We need need need your prayers. Now, if the pastor comes your prayers. Now, if the pastor comes your prayers. Now, if the pastor comes up, I want to say a couple words. You up, I want to say a couple words. You up, I want to say a couple words. You may not be in witchcraft. You may not may not be in witchcraft. You may not may not be in witchcraft. You may not think that this message has anything to think that this message has anything to think that this message has anything to do with you, but you're missing the do with you, but you're missing the do with you, but you're missing the whole point. I was in a world where it whole point. I was in a world where it whole point. I was in a world where it was impossible to become a Christian and was impossible to become a Christian and was impossible to become a Christian and Jesus made me one. I was by one of the Jesus made me one. I was by one of the Jesus made me one. I was by one of the girls that I used to live with when I girls that I used to live with when I girls that I used to live with when I was in the occult world was in the occult world was in the occult world recently.

recently. recently. She was at very important witchcraft She was at very important witchcraft She was at very important witchcraft meeting that we happened to find out meeting that we happened to find out meeting that we happened to find out about and I pulled into the parking lot about and I pulled into the parking lot about and I pulled into the parking lot for a few minutes to see who was there for a few minutes to see who was there for a few minutes to see who was there and she walked by the car and had a and she walked by the car and had a and she walked by the car and had a couple Christian brothers with me. She couple Christian brothers with me. She couple Christian brothers with me. She looked in the car and just smiled and looked in the car and just smiled and looked in the car and just smiled and kept on walking, never recognized me. kept on walking, never recognized me. kept on walking, never recognized me. That's the difference between the way I That's the difference between the way I That's the difference between the way I am now and the way I was then. When the am now and the way I was then. When the am now and the way I was then. When the Lord changes you, he totally changes Lord changes you, he totally changes Lord changes you, he totally changes you. you. you. Now, we give our testimony for several Now, we give our testimony for several Now, we give our testimony for several reasons to show that no matter what, reasons to show that no matter what, reasons to show that no matter what, whether you were raised a Christian and whether you were raised a Christian and whether you were raised a Christian and you, you know, all your life or you were you, you know, all your life or you were you, you know, all your life or you were raised in the worst frame of life, it's raised in the worst frame of life, it's raised in the worst frame of life, it's still the same miracle. God still saves still the same miracle. God still saves still the same miracle. God still saves you just the same. Sometimes I think you just the same. Sometimes I think you just the same. Sometimes I think it's harder to get the PKs and the it's harder to get the PKs and the it's harder to get the PKs and the Christian kids saved than it is the Christian kids saved than it is the Christian kids saved than it is the witches. But, at the same time, we try witches. But, at the same time, we try witches. But, at the same time, we try to flag you down from going the same to flag you down from going the same to flag you down from going the same direction we went with drugs. You'll direction we went with drugs. You'll direction we went with drugs. You'll never know the feeling to lose so many never know the feeling to lose so many never know the feeling to lose so many friends that should be with you today friends that should be with you today friends that should be with you today and so many loved ones because of drugs and so many loved ones because of drugs and so many loved ones because of drugs that we kept convincing ourselves was that we kept convincing ourselves was that we kept convincing ourselves was all right. This isn't some preacher all right. This isn't some preacher all right. This isn't some preacher getting up here and telling you this getting up here and telling you this getting up here and telling you this never been in it. I wished I had a half never been in it. I wished I had a half never been in it. I wished I had a half hour to talk about the worst thing that hour to talk about the worst thing that hour to talk about the worst thing that the occult world ever planned out and the occult world ever planned out and the occult world ever planned out and carried out. It's called rock music.

carried out. It's called rock music. carried out. It's called rock music. But, I'm going to say two quick things. But, I'm going to say two quick things. But, I'm going to say two quick things. Parents, the rock music does not belong Parents, the rock music does not belong Parents, the rock music does not belong to you, your kids. If your kids are in to you, your kids. If your kids are in to you, your kids. If your kids are in your home, it belongs to you and you're your home, it belongs to you and you're your home, it belongs to you and you're answerable for it. And if you want to answerable for it. And if you want to answerable for it. And if you want to believe their garbage that it's all believe their garbage that it's all believe their garbage that it's all right and you want to forget things like right and you want to forget things like right and you want to forget things like KISS saying that their real name is KISS saying that their real name is KISS saying that their real name is Kings and Satanic service and that rock Kings and Satanic service and that rock Kings and Satanic service and that rock music is actually Satanic spells being music is actually Satanic spells being music is actually Satanic spells being cast and being planned by the Satanist cast and being planned by the Satanist cast and being planned by the Satanist Church, and that's a direct quote, then Church, and that's a direct quote, then Church, and that's a direct quote, then you go right on ahead. Right now, the you go right on ahead. Right now, the you go right on ahead. Right now, the Manson, one of the Manson family girls Manson, one of the Manson family girls Manson, one of the Manson family girls is in trial and she said the number one is in trial and she said the number one is in trial and she said the number one thing that the occult world used to thing that the occult world used to thing that the occult world used to brainwash them was Beatle music brainwash them was Beatle music brainwash them was Beatle music and rock music. If you want to leave it and rock music. If you want to leave it and rock music. If you want to leave it in your home, I won't go into details in your home, I won't go into details in your home, I won't go into details why you can't, but if you want to leave why you can't, but if you want to leave why you can't, but if you want to leave it in your home and all the demons that it in your home and all the demons that it in your home and all the demons that it attracts, it attracts, it attracts, fine. If you want your kids to buffalo fine. If you want your kids to buffalo fine. If you want your kids to buffalo you that it's all right, but I recommend you that it's all right, but I recommend you that it's all right, but I recommend you go home today, get a cardboard box you go home today, get a cardboard box you go home today, get a cardboard box and break the records and burn those and break the records and burn those and break the records and burn those covers and get it out of your home and covers and get it out of your home and covers and get it out of your home and you'll be surprised at how fast your you'll be surprised at how fast your you'll be surprised at how fast your kids come around after they finish kids come around after they finish kids come around after they finish throwing their 2-year-old tantrum. But, throwing their 2-year-old tantrum. But, throwing their 2-year-old tantrum. But, I wish that I had the time more on rock I wish that I had the time more on rock I wish that I had the time more on rock music, but believe me, it is the worst music, but believe me, it is the worst music, but believe me, it is the worst carefully planned out in the occult carefully planned out in the occult carefully planned out in the occult world. We spent 8 million dollars to world. We spent 8 million dollars to world. We spent 8 million dollars to produce Jesus rock music and paid the produce Jesus rock music and paid the produce Jesus rock music and paid the man who started it named Chuck Smith man who started it named Chuck Smith man who started it named Chuck Smith just because Christians were destroying just because Christians were destroying just because Christians were destroying rock music and we were afraid that it rock music and we were afraid that it rock music and we were afraid that it would be banned from the Christian would be banned from the Christian would be banned from the Christian church. So, we carefully put it in the church. So, we carefully put it in the church. So, we carefully put it in the form of Christian rock music. So, if form of Christian rock music. So, if form of Christian rock music. So, if they would spend 8 million dollars to they would spend 8 million dollars to they would spend 8 million dollars to keep rock music in your hands, then the keep rock music in your hands, then the keep rock music in your hands, then the hardcore rock must be even worse. And it

hardcore rock must be even worse. And it hardcore rock must be even worse. And it is. I'm going to is. I'm going to is. I'm going to Okay, pastor. Okay, pastor. Okay, pastor. I don't mind. I drove all day so I could I don't mind. I drove all day so I could I don't mind. I drove all day so I could say these things. I don't I don't I was the manager Zodiac Productions. I was the manager Zodiac Productions. I was the manager Zodiac Productions. Which Zodiac Productions' name has been Which Zodiac Productions' name has been Which Zodiac Productions' name has been changed since then. I'm not even sure changed since then. I'm not even sure changed since then. I'm not even sure what they call it now, but it's the what they call it now, but it's the what they call it now, but it's the largest music conglomerate in the world. largest music conglomerate in the world. largest music conglomerate in the world. It owns RCA Records, Columbia Records, It owns RCA Records, Columbia Records, It owns RCA Records, Columbia Records, Motown Records. It owns almost all the Motown Records. It owns almost all the Motown Records. It owns almost all the concert booking agencies in the United concert booking agencies in the United concert booking agencies in the United States. And that's not even the the name States. And that's not even the the name States. And that's not even the the name of the company it owns. It's the name of of the company it owns. It's the name of of the company it owns. It's the name of the company it owns that is Brenner the company it owns that is Brenner the company it owns that is Brenner Enterprises and Brenner Enterprises is Enterprises and Brenner Enterprises is Enterprises and Brenner Enterprises is owned by Chase Manhattan. Chase owned by Chase Manhattan. Chase owned by Chase Manhattan. Chase Manhattan's owned by Standard Oil and Manhattan's owned by Standard Oil and Manhattan's owned by Standard Oil and Standard Oil's owned by the Lord of this Standard Oil's owned by the Lord of this Standard Oil's owned by the Lord of this world. You can track it all the way world. You can track it all the way world. You can track it all the way back. You kind of get the idea after a back. You kind of get the idea after a back. You kind of get the idea after a while. But, I was the managing president while. But, I was the managing president while. But, I was the managing president of Zodiac Productions. It's one of my of Zodiac Productions. It's one of my of Zodiac Productions. It's one of my jobs as being one of these 13 people. jobs as being one of these 13 people. jobs as being one of these 13 people. Thus, I got to know many of the people Thus, I got to know many of the people Thus, I got to know many of the people who produce music and sing the music and who produce music and sing the music and who produce music and sing the music and play the music that you play. Recently, play the music that you play. Recently, play the music that you play. Recently, one of the top people in rock music from one of the top people in rock music from one of the top people in rock music from the group um the group um the group um um um um can't think of the name of the group can't think of the name of the group can't think of the name of the group now. It's one of the top rock groups now. It's one of the top rock groups now. It's one of the top rock groups still in existence that's been around a still in existence that's been around a still in existence that's been around a long time was just saved.

long time was just saved. long time was just saved. And he told how when they'd play in And he told how when they'd play in And he told how when they'd play in their concerts, their concerts, their concerts, they would control through witchcraft they would control through witchcraft they would control through witchcraft spells in their mind the people to do spells in their mind the people to do spells in their mind the people to do different things in the audience. And if different things in the audience. And if different things in the audience. And if they'd work the audience up not with the they'd work the audience up not with the they'd work the audience up not with the music, but with their mind and their music, but with their mind and their music, but with their mind and their music combination. Now, one of the music combination. Now, one of the music combination. Now, one of the closest friends that I got during that closest friends that I got during that closest friends that I got during that time that I came was a man named David time that I came was a man named David time that I came was a man named David Crosby, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. I Crosby, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. I Crosby, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. I saw David the day before Christmas last saw David the day before Christmas last saw David the day before Christmas last year, talked with him. I got him away year, talked with him. I got him away year, talked with him. I got him away from this witch that he had with him. He from this witch that he had with him. He from this witch that he had with him. He told her to go shopping. We were in West told her to go shopping. We were in West told her to go shopping. We were in West Hollywood and I was witnessing around to Hollywood and I was witnessing around to Hollywood and I was witnessing around to people I knew. We went off in the store people I knew. We went off in the store people I knew. We went off in the store and we started talking. I said, "David, and we started talking. I said, "David, and we started talking. I said, "David, I'd like to ask you a couple questions." I'd like to ask you a couple questions." I'd like to ask you a couple questions." I said, "I already know the answers, but I said, "I already know the answers, but I said, "I already know the answers, but I've been a gone for 5 years. I'd like I've been a gone for 5 years. I'd like I've been a gone for 5 years. I'd like to know if certain things are still the to know if certain things are still the to know if certain things are still the way they were when I left." I said, "Do way they were when I left." I said, "Do way they were when I left." I said, "Do they Now, I'll have to explain some of they Now, I'll have to explain some of they Now, I'll have to explain some of this when I'm done cuz you're not going this when I'm done cuz you're not going this when I'm done cuz you're not going to understand it all unless you know to understand it all unless you know to understand it all unless you know something about music. I said, "Do they something about music. I said, "Do they something about music. I said, "Do they still take the master to the temple still take the master to the temple still take the master to the temple room?" Dave said, "Yeah." I said, "Do room?" Dave said, "Yeah." I said, "Do room?" Dave said, "Yeah." I said, "Do they still have the coven conjure demons they still have the coven conjure demons they still have the coven conjure demons into the master?" He said, "Of course." into the master?" He said, "Of course." into the master?" He said, "Of course." I said, "Now, I got to know something. I said, "Now, I got to know something. I said, "Now, I got to know something. What's the main reason for rock music?"

What's the main reason for rock music?" What's the main reason for rock music?" He said, "Come on, Lance. You know what He said, "Come on, Lance. You know what He said, "Come on, Lance. You know what the reason is." I said, "Please, David. the reason is." I said, "Please, David. the reason is." I said, "Please, David. I don't want to guess. Tell me what the I don't want to guess. Tell me what the I don't want to guess. Tell me what the main reason is." He said, "The same as main reason is." He said, "The same as main reason is." He said, "The same as when you were in, so that we can place when you were in, so that we can place when you were in, so that we can place spells on people that we couldn't cast spells on people that we couldn't cast spells on people that we couldn't cast spells upon." I'll explain what that spells upon." I'll explain what that spells upon." I'll explain what that means in a minute. I said, "Okay, one means in a minute. I said, "Okay, one means in a minute. I said, "Okay, one last thing. I've been hearing that you last thing. I've been hearing that you last thing. I've been hearing that you must be an initiated witch now to get a must be an initiated witch now to get a must be an initiated witch now to get a record contract." He said, "That's record contract." He said, "That's record contract." He said, "That's right." He said, "Many of us that right." He said, "Many of us that right." He said, "Many of us that weren't total witches have to be witches weren't total witches have to be witches weren't total witches have to be witches now in order to produce music." Thank now in order to produce music." Thank now in order to produce music." Thank you. The master is a tape about as big you. The master is a tape about as big you. The master is a tape about as big as the top of this podium that looks as the top of this podium that looks as the top of this podium that looks like an overgrown 8-track like an overgrown 8-track like an overgrown 8-track that the album is cut on and is placed that the album is cut on and is placed that the album is cut on and is placed in a machine that produces and presses in a machine that produces and presses in a machine that produces and presses the records and the 8-tracks and the records and the 8-tracks and the records and the 8-tracks and cassettes that you buy. After it's been cassettes that you buy. After it's been cassettes that you buy. After it's been recorded, it's taken in. This is why a recorded, it's taken in. This is why a recorded, it's taken in. This is why a master is cut months in advance before master is cut months in advance before master is cut months in advance before it's released. On the full moon, it's it's released. On the full moon, it's it's released. On the full moon, it's taken in to a temple room about the size taken in to a temple room about the size taken in to a temple room about the size of this auditorium that is in every one of this auditorium that is in every one of this auditorium that is in every one of the major music companies behind of the major music companies behind of the major music companies behind locked doors of the company executive locked doors of the company executive locked doors of the company executive offices. And it's placed on an altar offices. And it's placed on an altar offices. And it's placed on an altar setting in the north of the room and a setting in the north of the room and a setting in the north of the room and a pentagram engraved in the floor. And 13 pentagram engraved in the floor. And 13 pentagram engraved in the floor. And 13 hand-chosen witches and witch wizards in hand-chosen witches and witch wizards in hand-chosen witches and witch wizards in a coven come in and conjure a a coven come in and conjure a a coven come in and conjure a principality or a power up, usually principality or a power up, usually principality or a power up, usually region or something like that, and order region or something like that, and order region or something like that, and order him to tell the demons under him to him to tell the demons under him to him to tell the demons under him to follow every record and every tape follow every record and every tape follow every record and every tape coming off of that master. That's how coming off of that master. That's how coming off of that master. That's how many Christian parents, you can go home many Christian parents, you can go home many Christian parents, you can go home and count your kids' records, probably and count your kids' records, probably and count your kids' records, probably yours, too, and count how many demons at

yours, too, and count how many demons at yours, too, and count how many demons at least are there. If that's too hard for least are there. If that's too hard for least are there. If that's too hard for you to believe, I'm sorry. That's why you to believe, I'm sorry. That's why you to believe, I'm sorry. That's why they do it. Now, listen to me. This is they do it. Now, listen to me. This is they do it. Now, listen to me. This is why rock music's addicting. Have you why rock music's addicting. Have you why rock music's addicting. Have you ever seen kids that got rid of their ever seen kids that got rid of their ever seen kids that got rid of their music, they go around like this? They music, they go around like this? They music, they go around like this? They can't wait to find a rock station can't wait to find a rock station can't wait to find a rock station somewhere and they sneak off just like somewhere and they sneak off just like somewhere and they sneak off just like getting a cigarette or a fix because getting a cigarette or a fix because getting a cigarette or a fix because it's addicting. That's why they can't it's addicting. That's why they can't it's addicting. That's why they can't give it up. The rest of the conversation give it up. The rest of the conversation give it up. The rest of the conversation was this, "You can't cast a spell on a was this, "You can't cast a spell on a was this, "You can't cast a spell on a Christian, but you can get a Christian Christian, but you can get a Christian Christian, but you can get a Christian to cast a spell on himself. If you give to cast a spell on himself. If you give to cast a spell on himself. If you give the permission for the spell to work, the permission for the spell to work, the permission for the spell to work, being a Christian won't block it. And being a Christian won't block it. And being a Christian won't block it. And rock music is not just a song. It is rock music is not just a song. It is rock music is not just a song. It is supernatural music that which is supernatural music that which is supernatural music that which is carefully designed by their spirit carefully designed by their spirit carefully designed by their spirit guides or familiar spirits in the form guides or familiar spirits in the form guides or familiar spirits in the form of spells. Now, although the devil's of spells. Now, although the devil's of spells. Now, although the devil's music's power is the music and God's music's power is the music and God's music's power is the music and God's music is the words, much of the songs music is the words, much of the songs music is the words, much of the songs are written in what we call witch are written in what we call witch are written in what we call witch language. To give you kind of an idea, language. To give you kind of an idea, language. To give you kind of an idea, you talk on many of you talk CB. Unless you talk on many of you talk CB. Unless you talk on many of you talk CB. Unless you know what you what a smokey is and you know what you what a smokey is and you know what you what a smokey is and 10-4 and 10-4 and 10-4 and a front door and back door and rocking a front door and back door and rocking a front door and back door and rocking chair and any type of things, you don't chair and any type of things, you don't chair and any type of things, you don't know what you're talking about. Same know what you're talking about. Same know what you're talking about. Same with witches. When you're in the first with witches. When you're in the first with witches. When you're in the first and second level, you have to learn over and second level, you have to learn over and second level, you have to learn over 2,000 words that said by anybody else 2,000 words that said by anybody else 2,000 words that said by anybody else means something totally different than means something totally different than means something totally different than when you say them. Elton John has said when you say them. Elton John has said when you say them. Elton John has said he's never written a song or sung a song he's never written a song or sung a song he's never written a song or sung a song that wasn't in witch language. Now, I that wasn't in witch language. Now, I that wasn't in witch language. Now, I want to show you something. Tell me kids want to show you something. Tell me kids want to show you something. Tell me kids in here will be honest and adults. How in here will be honest and adults. How in here will be honest and adults. How many remember and heard at least several many remember and heard at least several many remember and heard at least several times a song called Hotel California.

times a song called Hotel California. times a song called Hotel California. Somebody tell me what it meant. Somebody tell me what it meant. Somebody tell me what it meant. Quickly, tell me tell me what it meant. Quickly, tell me tell me what it meant. Quickly, tell me tell me what it meant. Huh? That's pretty close. But from the Huh? That's pretty close. But from the Huh? That's pretty close. But from the words, what did it mean? words, what did it mean? words, what did it mean? That's more of a guess. See, most people That's more of a guess. See, most people That's more of a guess. See, most people can't tell you. That's why when people can't tell you. That's why when people can't tell you. That's why when people do drugs and they listen to songs in do drugs and they listen to songs in do drugs and they listen to songs in witch language, they get some of the witch language, they get some of the witch language, they get some of the meaning, meaning, meaning, but most of the time they can't tell but most of the time they can't tell but most of the time they can't tell you. Stop and think how many songs there you. Stop and think how many songs there you. Stop and think how many songs there out there that you really like and you out there that you really like and you out there that you really like and you don't have any idea what the person was don't have any idea what the person was don't have any idea what the person was talking about. "Beyond the Yellow Brick talking about. "Beyond the Yellow Brick talking about. "Beyond the Yellow Brick Road." How about "The Destroyer" by Road." How about "The Destroyer" by Road." How about "The Destroyer" by Kiss? Can anybody tell me what it's Kiss? Can anybody tell me what it's Kiss? Can anybody tell me what it's about? Kiss said in it, "Kids, show your about? Kiss said in it, "Kids, show your about? Kiss said in it, "Kids, show your parents." They're talking about Helter parents." They're talking about Helter parents." They're talking about Helter Skelter. Beatles sung Helter Skelter in Skelter. Beatles sung Helter Skelter in Skelter. Beatles sung Helter Skelter in witch language. Nobody knew what it witch language. Nobody knew what it witch language. Nobody knew what it meant. Manson did because he belonged to meant. Manson did because he belonged to meant. Manson did because he belonged to the process. Helter Skelter's a seven the process. Helter Skelter's a seven the process. Helter Skelter's a seven several thousand year old word. And they several thousand year old word. And they several thousand year old word. And they believe that it's going to happen in a believe that it's going to happen in a believe that it's going to happen in a year from now, from this very date. year from now, from this very date. year from now, from this very date. Most of the music is either about Helter Most of the music is either about Helter Most of the music is either about Helter Skelter or a place called "The Night Skelter or a place called "The Night Skelter or a place called "The Night Winds" which is what Hotel California's Winds" which is what Hotel California's Winds" which is what Hotel California's about and different doctrines of about and different doctrines of about and different doctrines of witchcraft. You listen to them, your witchcraft. You listen to them, your witchcraft. You listen to them, your parents let you listen to them, and they parents let you listen to them, and they parents let you listen to them, and they have no idea. Kiss openly bragged how have no idea. Kiss openly bragged how have no idea. Kiss openly bragged how they were gaining control of people they were gaining control of people they were gaining control of people through their music because the people through their music because the people through their music because the people played their music. They told how they played their music. They told how they played their music. They told how they didn't form their own group, their didn't form their own group, their didn't form their own group, their church, because they were ordained church, because they were ordained church, because they were ordained ministers of the Satanist church placed ministers of the Satanist church placed ministers of the Satanist church placed them together. And that's how most of them together. And that's how most of them together. And that's how most of the music is done. David Crosby, when the music is done. David Crosby, when the music is done. David Crosby, when him and Crosby, Stills, and Nash and him and Crosby, Stills, and Nash and him and Crosby, Stills, and Nash and Young produced the record "Two Way Young produced the record "Two Way Young produced the record "Two Way Street", they ordered the principality Street", they ordered the principality Street", they ordered the principality of Medea to order demons of rebellion to

of Medea to order demons of rebellion to of Medea to order demons of rebellion to go into the record and everybody that go into the record and everybody that go into the record and everybody that heard it would be rebellious against law heard it would be rebellious against law heard it would be rebellious against law and order and government. And it and order and government. And it and order and government. And it was one of the reasons for the great was one of the reasons for the great was one of the reasons for the great upheaval in the '60s was that one album. upheaval in the '60s was that one album. upheaval in the '60s was that one album. And they take open credit for it. I And they take open credit for it. I And they take open credit for it. I could go on all night, but that's mainly could go on all night, but that's mainly could go on all night, but that's mainly it. Parents, get this stuff in and it. Parents, get this stuff in and it. Parents, get this stuff in and destroy it now. I guarantee your kids destroy it now. I guarantee your kids destroy it now. I guarantee your kids will straighten up. They may pout for a will straighten up. They may pout for a will straighten up. They may pout for a while, but they'll straighten up. while, but they'll straighten up. while, but they'll straighten up. All right. All right. All right. We've had live action here with much of We've had live action here with much of We've had live action here with much of the night owls now. To say nothing. To say nothing. Um Um Um How many of you believe he knows what How many of you believe he knows what How many of you believe he knows what he's talking about when he talks about he's talking about when he talks about he's talking about when he talks about rock music? Huh? Not enough of the kids, rock music? Huh? Not enough of the kids, rock music? Huh? Not enough of the kids, I'm sorry to say. Yeah. Well, I I'm sorry to say. Yeah. Well, I I'm sorry to say. Yeah. Well, I sincerely believe he knows exactly what sincerely believe he knows exactly what sincerely believe he knows exactly what he's talking about there. Um he's talking about there. Um he's talking about there. Um and I hope you'll listen to him. I hope and I hope you'll listen to him. I hope and I hope you'll listen to him. I hope you'll hear where he's coming from. And you'll hear where he's coming from. And you'll hear where he's coming from. And if you continue to listen to that junk, if you continue to listen to that junk, if you continue to listen to that junk, well, you're going. We just cannot well, you're going. We just cannot well, you're going. We just cannot tolerate it as Christian people in our tolerate it as Christian people in our tolerate it as Christian people in our homes. You can't stop it from being homes. You can't stop it from being homes. You can't stop it from being played and sold and loved and we can't played and sold and loved and we can't played and sold and loved and we can't tolerate it.

tolerate it. tolerate it. Um you mentioned a time or two the Um you mentioned a time or two the Um you mentioned a time or two the Illuminati. Could you in just a few Illuminati. Could you in just a few Illuminati. Could you in just a few words summarize what you understand the words summarize what you understand the words summarize what you understand the Illuminati is? Illuminati is? Illuminati is? Okay. Many people call it the great Okay. Many people call it the great Okay. Many people call it the great conspiracy, which is kind of true, but conspiracy, which is kind of true, but conspiracy, which is kind of true, but actually the Illuminati is about a actually the Illuminati is about a actually the Illuminati is about a thousand conspiracies all running at one thousand conspiracies all running at one thousand conspiracies all running at one time. Therefore, a lot of them backfire. time. Therefore, a lot of them backfire. time. Therefore, a lot of them backfire. But it was formed about a hundred years But it was formed about a hundred years But it was formed about a hundred years before its original birthday. The before its original birthday. The before its original birthday. The birthday is May 1st, 1776, which is why birthday is May 1st, 1776, which is why birthday is May 1st, 1776, which is why they always start everything on May 1st. they always start everything on May 1st. they always start everything on May 1st. That's why even the communist birthday That's why even the communist birthday That's why even the communist birthday is on May 1st. That's their New Year's is on May 1st. That's their New Year's is on May 1st. That's their New Year's Day. But it means the holders of the Day. But it means the holders of the Day. But it means the holders of the light or the light bearers. Now, witches light or the light bearers. Now, witches light or the light bearers. Now, witches have another name for it, too. Since it have another name for it, too. Since it have another name for it, too. Since it is a death penalty to use the name the is a death penalty to use the name the is a death penalty to use the name the Illuminati, you must say Mariah, which Illuminati, you must say Mariah, which Illuminati, you must say Mariah, which means the conquering destroying wind. means the conquering destroying wind. means the conquering destroying wind. But its point its belief is that Lucifer But its point its belief is that Lucifer But its point its belief is that Lucifer is God and that everything else is an is God and that everything else is an is God and that everything else is an impostor and that Lucifer can bring impostor and that Lucifer can bring impostor and that Lucifer can bring peace to the world by his lifters or peace to the world by his lifters or peace to the world by his lifters or upholders conspiracy. And they're going upholders conspiracy. And they're going upholders conspiracy. And they're going to conspire conspire and conspire till to conspire conspire and conspire till to conspire conspire and conspire till they have the world government.

they have the world government. they have the world government. Sometimes I wonder why they could be so Sometimes I wonder why they could be so Sometimes I wonder why they could be so dumb except they're doing exactly dumb except they're doing exactly dumb except they're doing exactly what is going to lead to their what is going to lead to their what is going to lead to their destruction. But then that's usually how destruction. But then that's usually how destruction. But then that's usually how the devil is. He keeps everything in the devil is. He keeps everything in the devil is. He keeps everything in darkness. But that's the Illuminati. darkness. But that's the Illuminati. darkness. But that's the Illuminati. It's a world conspiracy and I might add It's a world conspiracy and I might add It's a world conspiracy and I might add an extremely powerful one. The occult is an extremely powerful one. The occult is an extremely powerful one. The occult is is its religion. Now, many of you are is its religion. Now, many of you are is its religion. Now, many of you are doctors, lawyers, mechanics, doctors, lawyers, mechanics, doctors, lawyers, mechanics, construction workers, businessmen, construction workers, businessmen, construction workers, businessmen, whatever. Most of you are Christians and whatever. Most of you are Christians and whatever. Most of you are Christians and pastors, okay? But he's your minister, pastors, okay? But he's your minister, pastors, okay? But he's your minister, at least if you're from this church. And at least if you're from this church. And at least if you're from this church. And the Illuminati, they all have jobs, but the Illuminati, they all have jobs, but the Illuminati, they all have jobs, but the witches are their ministers. But the witches are their ministers. But the witches are their ministers. But they're all Luciferian. The witches are they're all Luciferian. The witches are they're all Luciferian. The witches are the ministers and they're the church the ministers and they're the church the ministers and they're the church members and the religion is members and the religion is members and the religion is Luciferianism. Now, the real Illuminati, Luciferianism. Now, the real Illuminati, Luciferianism. Now, the real Illuminati, the organization itself, is financially the organization itself, is financially the organization itself, is financially powerful and politically motivated. powerful and politically motivated. powerful and politically motivated. Through their finance, they have an old Through their finance, they have an old Through their finance, they have an old witches room, which is kind of a saying, witches room, which is kind of a saying, witches room, which is kind of a saying, a poem. They say let the kings be kings, a poem. They say let the kings be kings, a poem. They say let the kings be kings, but the bankers be bankers and let the but the bankers be bankers and let the but the bankers be bankers and let the priests be priests. Translated, it priests be priests. Translated, it priests be priests. Translated, it simply means that it doesn't matter who simply means that it doesn't matter who simply means that it doesn't matter who rules as long as the bankers have the rules as long as the bankers have the rules as long as the bankers have the money, they'll own the person who rules money, they'll own the person who rules money, they'll own the person who rules and the priest will run the bankers.

and the priest will run the bankers. and the priest will run the bankers. That's the Illuminati. That's the Illuminati. That's the Illuminati. You mentioned John some publication said You mentioned John some publication said You mentioned John some publication said might be out in about three months. What might be out in about three months. What might be out in about three months. What What is that again? What is that again? What is that again? It's called "Riot and Revolution". It's It's called "Riot and Revolution". It's It's called "Riot and Revolution". It's by Tom Berry, classmate of my pastor by Tom Berry, classmate of my pastor by Tom Berry, classmate of my pastor over at New Salem. Graduated from Bob over at New Salem. Graduated from Bob over at New Salem. Graduated from Bob Jones, a doctor of divinity. And it it Jones, a doctor of divinity. And it it Jones, a doctor of divinity. And it it takes the plan of the Illuminati for takes the plan of the Illuminati for takes the plan of the Illuminati for Helter Skelter and gaining control of Helter Skelter and gaining control of Helter Skelter and gaining control of the world. It takes some of my testimony the world. It takes some of my testimony the world. It takes some of my testimony to justify it. And then it gives an to justify it. And then it gives an to justify it. And then it gives an answer to Christians what to do during answer to Christians what to do during answer to Christians what to do during Helter Skelter. Now, where did the Helter Skelter. Now, where did the Helter Skelter. Now, where did the material come from and how did he get material come from and how did he get material come from and how did he get it? Some of it came from me and some of it? Some of it came from me and some of it? Some of it came from me and some of it came from another minister named Joe it came from another minister named Joe it came from another minister named Joe Boyd. Some of it came from Jack House. Boyd. Some of it came from Jack House. Boyd. Some of it came from Jack House. He gathered also he had about 20 pages He gathered also he had about 20 pages He gathered also he had about 20 pages of notes when I met him, what he said he of notes when I met him, what he said he of notes when I met him, what he said he gained by going through about 2,000 gained by going through about 2,000 gained by going through about 2,000 books and they were on the Illuminati books and they were on the Illuminati books and they were on the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers. and the Bilderbergers. and the Bilderbergers. Okay? Okay? Okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Satan worshipers believe in Satan. Satan worshipers believe in Satan. Satan worshipers believe in Satan. Uh witches, the lower three levels, Uh witches, the lower three levels, Uh witches, the lower three levels, believe in God or else God self and ESP believe in God or else God self and ESP believe in God or else God self and ESP and so on. They believe in plural gods and so on. They believe in plural gods and so on. They believe in plural gods like the mother goddess Isis and so on.

like the mother goddess Isis and so on. like the mother goddess Isis and so on. Or the higher levels are Luciferian, Or the higher levels are Luciferian, Or the higher levels are Luciferian, which believe in one God and the minor which believe in one God and the minor which believe in one God and the minor gods being in the Rothschilds. Okay? gods being in the Rothschilds. Okay? gods being in the Rothschilds. Okay? That's the difference. You mean an That's the difference. You mean an That's the difference. You mean an average witch is not taught that there average witch is not taught that there average witch is not taught that there is such a being as Lucifer or the devil? is such a being as Lucifer or the devil? is such a being as Lucifer or the devil? Well, for one, when you believe in Well, for one, when you believe in Well, for one, when you believe in Lucifer, you don't believe he's the Lucifer, you don't believe he's the Lucifer, you don't believe he's the devil. Okay? devil. Okay? devil. Okay? Uh no, they believe in the mother Uh no, they believe in the mother Uh no, they believe in the mother goddess, which is called by many names goddess, which is called by many names goddess, which is called by many names as the poem about her goes. Diana, Isis, as the poem about her goes. Diana, Isis, as the poem about her goes. Diana, Isis, Asherah, which was the female side of Asherah, which was the female side of Asherah, which was the female side of Baal. And they believe actually it's Baal. And they believe actually it's Baal. And they believe actually it's Baal worship. There was a male and Baal worship. There was a male and Baal worship. There was a male and female god. Asherah and female god. Asherah and female god. Asherah and uh and then the horned hunter of the uh and then the horned hunter of the uh and then the horned hunter of the night is the way he's portrayed in all night is the way he's portrayed in all night is the way he's portrayed in all countries, which is more or less kind of countries, which is more or less kind of countries, which is more or less kind of the underworld god, the devil, or the underworld god, the devil, or the underworld god, the devil, or whatever. All right. Anybody with a whatever. All right. Anybody with a whatever. All right. Anybody with a question or two before we We're going to question or two before we We're going to question or two before we We're going to take a love offering here. There's no take a love offering here. There's no take a love offering here. There's no difference. What was his question? The difference. What was his question? The difference. What was his question? The difference between rock music and soul difference between rock music and soul difference between rock music and soul music. There's no difference. Okay? All music. There's no difference. Okay? All music. There's no difference. Okay? All right, another question. In the back. right, another question. In the back. right, another question. In the back. They didn't come up with it. They didn't come up with it. They didn't come up with it. That was about a hurricane that somebody That was about a hurricane that somebody That was about a hurricane that somebody named Mariah. Okay? named Mariah. Okay? named Mariah. Okay? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the Satanist church, Christ and And the Satanist church, Christ and Jesus are the same person. Okay? No, Jesus are the same person. Okay? No, Jesus are the same person. Okay? No, that's the teaching. In the Satanist that's the teaching. In the Satanist that's the teaching. In the Satanist church, Christ Jesus Christ and Satan church, Christ Jesus Christ and Satan church, Christ Jesus Christ and Satan are the same person. That's the Satanist are the same person. That's the Satanist are the same person. That's the Satanist belief. And the belief. And the belief. And the Luciferian, they believe that Jesus Luciferian, they believe that Jesus Luciferian, they believe that Jesus Christ is the god of evil. Okay? Like we Christ is the god of evil. Okay? Like we Christ is the god of evil. Okay? Like we feel about the devil, they feel about feel about the devil, they feel about feel about the devil, they feel about Jesus. And Lucifer, they feel towards Jesus. And Lucifer, they feel towards Jesus. And Lucifer, they feel towards him like we feel about Jesus. That's him like we feel about Jesus. That's him like we feel about Jesus. That's what they teach. Okay? Okay? I don't know what he said, but it must I don't know what he said, but it must I don't know what he said, but it must have been good. Well, a pastor didn't lead me. A Well, a pastor didn't lead me. A Christian worker led me to the Lord. The Christian worker led me to the Lord. The Christian worker led me to the Lord. The person that helped rehabilitate me was person that helped rehabilitate me was person that helped rehabilitate me was Jack Taylor, but he wasn't around much Jack Taylor, but he wasn't around much Jack Taylor, but he wasn't around much cuz he he was a pastor. He had to run cuz he he was a pastor. He had to run cuz he he was a pastor. He had to run around the country speaking. It was around the country speaking. It was around the country speaking. It was actually his music director and the actually his music director and the actually his music director and the youth director. And Rollis was the youth youth director. And Rollis was the youth youth director. And Rollis was the youth director and the music director was director and the music director was director and the music director was Malcolm Granger. And I stayed with Malcolm Granger. And I stayed with Malcolm Granger. And I stayed with Malcolm and him and his wife worked with Malcolm and him and his wife worked with Malcolm and him and his wife worked with me and the music I mean the youth me and the music I mean the youth me and the music I mean the youth director worked with me quite a bit. But director worked with me quite a bit. But director worked with me quite a bit. But I don't envy him. I sit back now and I I don't envy him. I sit back now and I I don't envy him. I sit back now and I guess I kind of block my mind out how guess I kind of block my mind out how guess I kind of block my mind out how bad I was. But watching all these kids bad I was. But watching all these kids bad I was. But watching all these kids go through rehabilitation, man, that was go through rehabilitation, man, that was go through rehabilitation, man, that was no easy job, man. He had to be on their no easy job, man. He had to be on their no easy job, man. He had to be on their knees a lot, I'll tell you.

knees a lot, I'll tell you. knees a lot, I'll tell you. Black Sabbath. Some of music group or a Black Sabbath. Some of music group or a Black Sabbath. Some of music group or a black sabbath? Well, the music group got black sabbath? Well, the music group got black sabbath? Well, the music group got its name from it. A black sabbath is a its name from it. A black sabbath is a its name from it. A black sabbath is a witches sabbath, okay? It comes eight witches sabbath, okay? It comes eight witches sabbath, okay? It comes eight times a year. Beltane, like you get the times a year. Beltane, like you get the times a year. Beltane, like you get the first part, Baal. Beltane is their New first part, Baal. Beltane is their New first part, Baal. Beltane is their New Year's Day. That was May 1st. Okay? Year's Day. That was May 1st. Okay? Year's Day. That was May 1st. Okay? Halloween is Samhain. That was also one Halloween is Samhain. That was also one Halloween is Samhain. That was also one of theirs. There's eight of them, okay? of theirs. There's eight of them, okay? of theirs. There's eight of them, okay? And they come around the year and it's And they come around the year and it's And they come around the year and it's more or less their big party day, their more or less their big party day, their more or less their big party day, their super super day. Now, if they're into super super day. Now, if they're into super super day. Now, if they're into human sacrifice, they also do human human sacrifice, they also do human human sacrifice, they also do human sacrifice at the time. But it's a big sacrifice at the time. But it's a big sacrifice at the time. But it's a big time to have an orgy and a big drug time to have an orgy and a big drug time to have an orgy and a big drug party and this type of thing to get party and this type of thing to get party and this type of thing to get everybody wiped out. That's the witches everybody wiped out. That's the witches everybody wiped out. That's the witches sabbath. John? Well, not the Satanist sabbath. John? Well, not the Satanist sabbath. John? Well, not the Satanist church, but the witchcraft church is. church, but the witchcraft church is. church, but the witchcraft church is. Uh Uh Uh a very very powerful witch has a song a very very powerful witch has a song a very very powerful witch has a song out about witchcraft now called The out about witchcraft now called The out about witchcraft now called The Force. His name is Tom T. Hall. Force. His name is Tom T. Hall. Force. His name is Tom T. Hall. Uh I just heard very sick song recently. Uh I just heard very sick song recently. Uh I just heard very sick song recently. Somebody let me hear. It was by Tammy Somebody let me hear. It was by Tammy Somebody let me hear. It was by Tammy Wynette and it was talking about Jesus Wynette and it was talking about Jesus Wynette and it was talking about Jesus Christ appearing on um Christ appearing on um Christ appearing on um midnight midnight special or something midnight midnight special or something midnight midnight special or something like Saturday night something. Anyway, like Saturday night something. Anyway, like Saturday night something. Anyway, I'm afraid that if he appeared on that I'm afraid that if he appeared on that I'm afraid that if he appeared on that rock show, he'd probably bring the cat rock show, he'd probably bring the cat rock show, he'd probably bring the cat of nine tails along with him. But um of nine tails along with him. But um of nine tails along with him. But um there some of the music If it wasn't for there some of the music If it wasn't for there some of the music If it wasn't for witchcraft being behind rock music, I'd witchcraft being behind rock music, I'd witchcraft being behind rock music, I'd hate country the most. Because I don't hate country the most. Because I don't hate country the most. Because I don't see how Christians can listen to it when see how Christians can listen to it when see how Christians can listen to it when it's talking about adultery, it's talking about adultery, it's talking about adultery, fornication, getting drunk, cutting fornication, getting drunk, cutting fornication, getting drunk, cutting people up, running around with everybody people up, running around with everybody people up, running around with everybody else's wife, and things like this. And else's wife, and things like this. And else's wife, and things like this. And that's all I ever hear on it.

that's all I ever hear on it. that's all I ever hear on it. Glenn. Mhm. Well, that's what they were Glenn. Mhm. Well, that's what they were Glenn. Mhm. Well, that's what they were referring to. Yeah, they did. No, I'm referring to. Yeah, they did. No, I'm referring to. Yeah, they did. No, I'm not going to tell you. not going to tell you. not going to tell you. Okay. I believe Vic named Russ. Okay. I believe Vic named Russ. Okay. I believe Vic named Russ. Mhm. Human sacrifice? Uh I I presume Mhm. Human sacrifice? Uh I I presume Mhm. Human sacrifice? Uh I I presume occasions. Oh. Well, the occasion was on occasions. Oh. Well, the occasion was on occasions. Oh. Well, the occasion was on a Sabbath. Okay? That particular Sabbath a Sabbath. Okay? That particular Sabbath a Sabbath. Okay? That particular Sabbath happened to be uh February the 2nd, happened to be uh February the 2nd, happened to be uh February the 2nd, Candlemas. Okay? Candlemas. Okay? Candlemas. Okay? Uh Uh Uh what about What was the rest of it? what about What was the rest of it? what about What was the rest of it? Well, it's done That particular one was Well, it's done That particular one was Well, it's done That particular one was done because of an initiation ceremony done because of an initiation ceremony done because of an initiation ceremony that was being done. Mine. But most of that was being done. Mine. But most of that was being done. Mine. But most of the covens just practice eight times a the covens just practice eight times a the covens just practice eight times a year if they're in the blood sacrifice. year if they're in the blood sacrifice. year if they're in the blood sacrifice. Uh like uh See, the lower witches Uh like uh See, the lower witches Uh like uh See, the lower witches believe that the power for witchcraft believe that the power for witchcraft believe that the power for witchcraft comes from orgies and sex. The higher comes from orgies and sex. The higher comes from orgies and sex. The higher witches believe it's obtained by human witches believe it's obtained by human witches believe it's obtained by human blood. Okay? Russ, how many you had your blood. Okay? Russ, how many you had your blood. Okay? Russ, how many you had your hand hand hand The revolution that they have planned The revolution that they have planned The revolution that they have planned within the United States. Most people within the United States. Most people within the United States. Most people feel that something like that will never feel that something like that will never feel that something like that will never happen in the United States. They're happen in the United States. They're happen in the United States. They're lying to themselves. It will happen and lying to themselves. It will happen and lying to themselves. It will happen and it's not very far off. Well, by 1980, it's not very far off. Well, by 1980, it's not very far off. Well, by 1980, they'll be helter skelter's only an they'll be helter skelter's only an they'll be helter skelter's only an excuse. Okay? The excuse is to be able excuse. Okay? The excuse is to be able excuse. Okay? The excuse is to be able to declare martial law. That's the whole to declare martial law. That's the whole to declare martial law. That's the whole reason for it. They promised the one reason for it. They promised the one reason for it. They promised the one side that they will be able to gain side that they will be able to gain side that they will be able to gain control of the United States through control of the United States through control of the United States through revolution. When the whole time that revolution. When the whole time that revolution. When the whole time that they're just simply setting them up to they're just simply setting them up to they're just simply setting them up to be able to declare martial law, suspend be able to declare martial law, suspend be able to declare martial law, suspend a constitution. And by 1980, they plan a constitution. And by 1980, they plan a constitution. And by 1980, they plan on being under martial law. I'm not on being under martial law. I'm not on being under martial law. I'm not saying don't all of you start lunching saying don't all of you start lunching saying don't all of you start lunching at one time. I didn't say it was going at one time. I didn't say it was going at one time. I didn't say it was going to happen. I said this is their plan.

to happen. I said this is their plan. to happen. I said this is their plan. Okay? I'll leave it up to your own Okay? I'll leave it up to your own Okay? I'll leave it up to your own prayer life and watching the newspapers prayer life and watching the newspapers prayer life and watching the newspapers whether it's going to happen or not. whether it's going to happen or not. whether it's going to happen or not. Back there. Back there. Back there. Just like in most other cults, the See, Just like in most other cults, the See, Just like in most other cults, the See, Jesus Christ requires just one way. Only Jesus Christ requires just one way. Only Jesus Christ requires just one way. Only one way. The devil will use any way to one way. The devil will use any way to one way. The devil will use any way to keep your eyes off that one way. keep your eyes off that one way. keep your eyes off that one way. Okay? They use the same tactics wherever Okay? They use the same tactics wherever Okay? They use the same tactics wherever it branches to. I have no idea if the it branches to. I have no idea if the it branches to. I have no idea if the They He came out after I got out. I have They He came out after I got out. I have They He came out after I got out. I have no idea. They were backing groups like no idea. They were backing groups like no idea. They were backing groups like him before, the Krishnas and so on. I him before, the Krishnas and so on. I him before, the Krishnas and so on. I can't see much difference between them can't see much difference between them can't see much difference between them and those two groups. So, they probably and those two groups. So, they probably and those two groups. So, they probably back him, too. Okay, Mike and then Mom. back him, too. Okay, Mike and then Mom. back him, too. Okay, Mike and then Mom. Yeah, the Council on Foreign Relations. Yeah, the Council on Foreign Relations. Yeah, the Council on Foreign Relations. Yeah, and it's it's inner brainchild Yeah, and it's it's inner brainchild Yeah, and it's it's inner brainchild that runs it is called the Trilateral that runs it is called the Trilateral that runs it is called the Trilateral Commission. Okay? Sally, Bob, and then Commission. Okay? Sally, Bob, and then Commission. Okay? Sally, Bob, and then Barbara. Barbara. Barbara. Yeah, the seven principalities, about uh Yeah, the seven principalities, about uh Yeah, the seven principalities, about uh 200 powers, then it starts getting down 200 powers, then it starts getting down 200 powers, then it starts getting down into lower people we never pay attention into lower people we never pay attention into lower people we never pay attention to, the lower spirits. Barbara. Yeah, um to, the lower spirits. Barbara. Yeah, um to, the lower spirits. Barbara. Yeah, um I want to go to all just recently, about I want to go to all just recently, about I want to go to all just recently, about 3 weeks ago in April, the day before 3 weeks ago in April, the day before 3 weeks ago in April, the day before Jack House came to our church to speak Jack House came to our church to speak Jack House came to our church to speak and the day after he left, I came both and the day after he left, I came both and the day after he left, I came both times I came walking out of the church, times I came walking out of the church, times I came walking out of the church, at Faith Baptist. One time I got in my at Faith Baptist. One time I got in my at Faith Baptist. One time I got in my car started to drive off in the parking car started to drive off in the parking car started to drive off in the parking lot, about 30 people were standing lot, about 30 people were standing lot, about 30 people were standing around and a passing car opened up on us around and a passing car opened up on us around and a passing car opened up on us with a gun. And then that was Sunday with a gun. And then that was Sunday with a gun. And then that was Sunday night. Then Wednesday night of that night. Then Wednesday night of that night. Then Wednesday night of that week, well, I was walking out into the week, well, I was walking out into the week, well, I was walking out into the parking lot prior to the church letting parking lot prior to the church letting parking lot prior to the church letting out with a couple brothers and when we out with a couple brothers and when we out with a couple brothers and when we dug the bullets out of where they hit, dug the bullets out of where they hit, dug the bullets out of where they hit, they had fired twice at us and the

they had fired twice at us and the they had fired twice at us and the bullets were .44 caliber, .44 magnum. bullets were .44 caliber, .44 magnum. bullets were .44 caliber, .44 magnum. So, they don't play around and the range So, they don't play around and the range So, they don't play around and the range was so close, it was from the back of was so close, it was from the back of was so close, it was from the back of that wall to here. You know that the that wall to here. You know that the that wall to here. You know that the Lord is in it. It really makes you Lord is in it. It really makes you Lord is in it. It really makes you appreciate his divine protection, let me appreciate his divine protection, let me appreciate his divine protection, let me tell you. Bruce. That world takeover plan ended with That world takeover plan ended with World War III. But one of the teachings World War III. But one of the teachings World War III. But one of the teachings is that when Lucifer sets up his is that when Lucifer sets up his is that when Lucifer sets up his kingdom, okay, that through World War kingdom, okay, that through World War kingdom, okay, that through World War III, most of the civilized world as it III, most of the civilized world as it III, most of the civilized world as it exists now will be in rubble. The one exists now will be in rubble. The one exists now will be in rubble. The one protected capital that they have protected capital that they have protected capital that they have purposely kept all missiles away from, purposely kept all missiles away from, purposely kept all missiles away from, from both sides, is Jerusalem. And they from both sides, is Jerusalem. And they from both sides, is Jerusalem. And they plan on using Jerusalem to set up from plan on using Jerusalem to set up from plan on using Jerusalem to set up from there. Okay? They believe that Adam's there. Okay? They believe that Adam's there. Okay? They believe that Adam's original home, or the Garden of Eden, original home, or the Garden of Eden, original home, or the Garden of Eden, rests where Jerusalem is. So, they're rests where Jerusalem is. So, they're rests where Jerusalem is. So, they're going to rule from there. going to rule from there. going to rule from there. Um Mike and then Robin and then let's Um Mike and then Robin and then let's Um Mike and then Robin and then let's let's let's let's maybe maybe maybe Very quick. Uh The church that I attend, I'm a member The church that I attend, I'm a member of it, Faith Baptist in Canoga Park, Dr.

of it, Faith Baptist in Canoga Park, Dr. of it, Faith Baptist in Canoga Park, Dr. Russ Miser. Uh the work where he's at, Russ Miser. Uh the work where he's at, Russ Miser. Uh the work where he's at, the house, has got to remain a sound. the house, has got to remain a sound. the house, has got to remain a sound. Okay? Very well. All of our church walk Okay? Very well. All of our church walk Okay? Very well. All of our church walk around people trying to find out where around people trying to find out where around people trying to find out where it's at and everybody it's at and everybody it's at and everybody So, like the unspeakable secret. Okay? So, like the unspeakable secret. Okay? So, like the unspeakable secret. Okay? Everybody knows but nobody says. He was a member of the Process Church of He was a member of the Process Church of the Final Judgment, which in California the Final Judgment, which in California the Final Judgment, which in California is called Universal Trump is called Universal Trump is called Universal Trump Church Triumphant Summit International. Church Triumphant Summit International. Church Triumphant Summit International. They always like these names. Okay? They always like these names. Okay? They always like these names. Okay? Okay, and I see Randy. Okay, and I see Randy. Okay, and I see Randy. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. I try to keep out of communication as I try to keep out of communication as I try to keep out of communication as much as possible with them. much as possible with them. much as possible with them. Um Um Um my foster mother has a huge contract on my foster mother has a huge contract on my foster mother has a huge contract on my life and my brother's trying to my life and my brother's trying to my life and my brother's trying to collect it, so I try to stay away from collect it, so I try to stay away from collect it, so I try to stay away from him. him. him. By the way, Randy, you cannot By the way, Randy, you cannot By the way, Randy, you cannot communicate with them. You're communicate with them. You're communicate with them. You're communicating with demons. They imitate communicating with demons. They imitate communicating with demons. They imitate them. They cannot speak to you. Let's them. They cannot speak to you. Let's them. They cannot speak to you. Let's see uh Yes, brother. see uh Yes, brother. see uh Yes, brother. Oh, I could You mean in count all these Oh, I could You mean in count all these Oh, I could You mean in count all these Sabbaths they last year? From May May Sabbaths they last year? From May May Sabbaths they last year? From May May 1st to May 1st, probably 500 and that's 1st to May 1st, probably 500 and that's 1st to May 1st, probably 500 and that's only a guess. I'm probably way under. only a guess. I'm probably way under. only a guess. I'm probably way under. Dwayne has one of his books, Chick Dwayne has one of his books, Chick Dwayne has one of his books, Chick publication I believe it is and in the publication I believe it is and in the publication I believe it is and in the it's made up like a comic book. It tells it's made up like a comic book. It tells it's made up like a comic book. It tells you here it Broken Cross. That's the one you here it Broken Cross. That's the one you here it Broken Cross. That's the one I wrote. This is the one that tells you I wrote. This is the one that tells you I wrote. This is the one that tells you one of their main methods of how they one of their main methods of how they one of their main methods of how they get victims to offer up in blood get victims to offer up in blood get victims to offer up in blood sacrifice. All right, Robin, I think we sacrifice. All right, Robin, I think we sacrifice. All right, Robin, I think we better let this be it. Okay, give me better let this be it. Okay, give me better let this be it. Okay, give me about a minute on this here. Uh repeat about a minute on this here. Uh repeat about a minute on this here. Uh repeat that. Okay, you heard at a Christian that. Okay, you heard at a Christian that. Okay, you heard at a Christian school what's one? Oh, in high school school what's one? Oh, in high school school what's one? Oh, in high school camp. You heard that C.S. Lewis was a camp. You heard that C.S. Lewis was a camp. You heard that C.S. Lewis was a Christian, right? Okay. First of all, Christian, right? Okay. First of all, Christian, right? Okay. First of all, Christian Accelerated Schools has what

Christian Accelerated Schools has what Christian Accelerated Schools has what I'm about to tell you has investigated I'm about to tell you has investigated I'm about to tell you has investigated what I said. Christian Accelerated what I said. Christian Accelerated what I said. Christian Accelerated Education and because of it are now Education and because of it are now Education and because of it are now ordering all their schools to ban Lewis' ordering all their schools to ban Lewis' ordering all their schools to ban Lewis' work. They checked into it, right? work. They checked into it, right? work. They checked into it, right? Carefully. So, did my pastor because he Carefully. So, did my pastor because he Carefully. So, did my pastor because he was getting hit very hard with it. He was getting hit very hard with it. He was getting hit very hard with it. He found everything I said to be true. When found everything I said to be true. When found everything I said to be true. When a witch is ready to be initiated, she a witch is ready to be initiated, she a witch is ready to be initiated, she must not just read, but she must study must not just read, but she must study must not just read, but she must study the complete work of Lewis. Fictional the complete work of Lewis. Fictional the complete work of Lewis. Fictional work. work. work. Lewis has said that the way to God is Lewis has said that the way to God is Lewis has said that the way to God is like a hallway with many doors. They all like a hallway with many doors. They all like a hallway with many doors. They all lead to it. Okay? Now, the fictional lead to it. Okay? Now, the fictional lead to it. Okay? Now, the fictional works of Lewis are very real to witches. works of Lewis are very real to witches. works of Lewis are very real to witches. They're not fictional, they're history They're not fictional, they're history They're not fictional, they're history to witches. They really believe them. to witches. They really believe them. to witches. They really believe them. Okay? They believe they're guidelines. Okay? They believe they're guidelines. Okay? They believe they're guidelines. Now, Lewis was a member of the Golden Now, Lewis was a member of the Golden Now, Lewis was a member of the Golden Dawn. Now, that's been proven. Along Dawn. Now, that's been proven. Along Dawn. Now, that's been proven. Along with a fellow brother of the same coven with a fellow brother of the same coven with a fellow brother of the same coven named Tolkien, who wrote The Hobbit. named Tolkien, who wrote The Hobbit. named Tolkien, who wrote The Hobbit. They were in the same coven. The Golden They were in the same coven. The Golden They were in the same coven. The Golden Dawn is the private church that the Dawn is the private church that the Dawn is the private church that the Rothschilds must pick every member of Rothschilds must pick every member of Rothschilds must pick every member of that church personally. In London. The that church personally. In London. The that church personally. In London. The oldest coven in the world. Okay? That's oldest coven in the world. Okay? That's oldest coven in the world. Okay? That's Lewis. Whether he says he's a Christian Lewis. Whether he says he's a Christian Lewis. Whether he says he's a Christian or not, that doesn't mean anything.

or not, that doesn't mean anything. or not, that doesn't mean anything. That's where Christians are making a That's where Christians are making a That's where Christians are making a terrible mistake. Could it be that he terrible mistake. Could it be that he terrible mistake. Could it be that he was like that and like you said, he got was like that and like you said, he got was like that and like you said, he got converted and now he is no longer that? converted and now he is no longer that? converted and now he is no longer that? He would have had to tell it. But Lewis' He would have had to tell it. But Lewis' He would have had to tell it. But Lewis' name was on the Golden Dawn records name was on the Golden Dawn records name was on the Golden Dawn records right up to the time that I got out. I right up to the time that I got out. I right up to the time that I got out. I mean, there's no betrayal there. He mean, there's no betrayal there. He mean, there's no betrayal there. He never did leave them. Okay? I want to never did leave them. Okay? I want to never did leave them. Okay? I want to say something real quick that will say something real quick that will say something real quick that will answer this. Many people supposedly get answer this. Many people supposedly get answer this. Many people supposedly get saved in the Manson family and from saved in the Manson family and from saved in the Manson family and from other things. Let me tell you something other things. Let me tell you something other things. Let me tell you something real quick so you there will be no real quick so you there will be no real quick so you there will be no misunderstanding. You come out of the misunderstanding. You come out of the misunderstanding. You come out of the occult, you come out of the Masons, you occult, you come out of the Masons, you occult, you come out of the Masons, you come out anything of the Illuminati, come out anything of the Illuminati, come out anything of the Illuminati, there's one distinct thing. Anywhere there's one distinct thing. Anywhere there's one distinct thing. Anywhere there's a vow of secrecy, that vow of there's a vow of secrecy, that vow of there's a vow of secrecy, that vow of secrecy must be broken. Not in part, secrecy must be broken. Not in part, secrecy must be broken. Not in part, complete. When somebody breaks their complete. When somebody breaks their complete. When somebody breaks their complete vow of secrecy, they're out. complete vow of secrecy, they're out. complete vow of secrecy, they're out. But until they do, they're not Okay? But until they do, they're not Okay? But until they do, they're not Okay? Charlie. Charlie. Charlie. This is it. This is it. This is it. That's right. Then a double what? That's right. Then a double what? That's right. Then a double what? Witches' language. Witches' language. Witches' language. That's exactly right. Okay. Okay. Did you hear his question? Did you hear his question? Did you hear his question? How do Masons relate to all of this?

How do Masons relate to all of this? How do Masons relate to all of this? Okay. Listen closely, you Masons. Okay. Listen closely, you Masons. Okay. Listen closely, you Masons. Council of 13 is the high council of the Council of 13 is the high council of the Council of 13 is the high council of the Illuminati. The council right below it Illuminati. The council right below it Illuminati. The council right below it is the Council of 33. That's called the is the Council of 33. That's called the is the Council of 33. That's called the Grand Masters. They are the 33 highest Grand Masters. They are the 33 highest Grand Masters. They are the 33 highest Masons in the world. To be a member of Masons in the world. To be a member of Masons in the world. To be a member of the Council of 33, you must take a human the Council of 33, you must take a human the Council of 33, you must take a human life in a ceremony to prove your life in a ceremony to prove your life in a ceremony to prove your worthiness. We have in our hands copies worthiness. We have in our hands copies worthiness. We have in our hands copies that Chick Publications is releasing that Chick Publications is releasing that Chick Publications is releasing this in their new book, Angel of Light. this in their new book, Angel of Light. this in their new book, Angel of Light. Copies of a 32nd, 33rd level book which Copies of a 32nd, 33rd level book which Copies of a 32nd, 33rd level book which proclaims Jesus Christ the God of proclaims Jesus Christ the God of proclaims Jesus Christ the God of brutality and sin and evil and Lucifer brutality and sin and evil and Lucifer brutality and sin and evil and Lucifer the God of love, beauty, and peace and the God of love, beauty, and peace and the God of love, beauty, and peace and the true God. the true God. the true God. Yeah, little shocking, huh? Different Yeah, little shocking, huh? Different Yeah, little shocking, huh? Different from what I used to say. But don't be from what I used to say. But don't be from what I used to say. But don't be mad at the lower Masons. It also says in mad at the lower Masons. It also says in mad at the lower Masons. It also says in the same book that the lower Masons are the same book that the lower Masons are the same book that the lower Masons are sheep to be sheared. Now, many Masons sheep to be sheared. Now, many Masons sheep to be sheared. Now, many Masons are getting saved through our message, are getting saved through our message, are getting saved through our message, lower and higher, because they recognize lower and higher, because they recognize lower and higher, because they recognize when I and I did tonight, gave my when I and I did tonight, gave my when I and I did tonight, gave my initiation to become a witch and my vow initiation to become a witch and my vow initiation to become a witch and my vow of secrecy is the same as theirs. All of secrecy is the same as theirs. All of secrecy is the same as theirs. All the way through, the same. No different. the way through, the same. No different. the way through, the same. No different. Now, Now, Now, Masons were started by the Illuminati.

Masons were started by the Illuminati. Masons were started by the Illuminati. It's all through our history that It's all through our history that It's all through our history that they're tied with the Illuminati. Their they're tied with the Illuminati. Their they're tied with the Illuminati. Their rites are witchcraft rites when rites are witchcraft rites when rites are witchcraft rites when witchcraft had to go underground. We witchcraft had to go underground. We witchcraft had to go underground. We have had people come in and tear up have had people come in and tear up have had people come in and tear up their membership cards and get right their membership cards and get right their membership cards and get right with the Lord. Mainly because if you with the Lord. Mainly because if you with the Lord. Mainly because if you didn't know this, Charles Finney was a didn't know this, Charles Finney was a didn't know this, Charles Finney was a Mason and when he got saved, he said, "I Mason and when he got saved, he said, "I Mason and when he got saved, he said, "I can't be a Mason and be a Christian. It can't be a Mason and be a Christian. It can't be a Mason and be a Christian. It is impossible because the vows I must is impossible because the vows I must is impossible because the vows I must take are non-Christian vows." Okay? take are non-Christian vows." Okay? take are non-Christian vows." Okay? People are getting saved right and left People are getting saved right and left People are getting saved right and left and they all have one thing to say when and they all have one thing to say when and they all have one thing to say when they leave the Masons, the reason they they leave the Masons, the reason they they leave the Masons, the reason they didn't leave before is they were afraid didn't leave before is they were afraid didn't leave before is they were afraid of what the Masons would do to them. of what the Masons would do to them. of what the Masons would do to them. Now, if it is a good group, why are Now, if it is a good group, why are Now, if it is a good group, why are people afraid to leave it?