Red Ice Live - Migrant Invaders Given €10k in Holland

we have a feature from holland now too we have a feature from holland now too we have an interview we have an interview we have an interview tell us a bit about the interview you tell us a bit about the interview you tell us a bit about the interview you did there here yeah yeah she is did there here yeah yeah she is did there here yeah yeah she is she lives in holland and she's seen she lives in holland and she's seen she lives in holland and she's seen seeing firsthand seeing firsthand seeing firsthand keeping uh keeping informed of what's keeping uh keeping informed of what's keeping uh keeping informed of what's going on there with a migrant situation going on there with a migrant situation going on there with a migrant situation and recently there was a report again and recently there was a report again and recently there was a report again the new observer online thank you for the new observer online thank you for the new observer online thank you for covering that covering that covering that holland is giving families basically holland is giving families basically holland is giving families basically twelve thousand dollars or ten thousand twelve thousand dollars or ten thousand twelve thousand dollars or ten thousand euros each euros each euros each to each invader family to buy stuff and to each invader family to buy stuff and to each invader family to buy stuff and uh the situation there is just insane is uh the situation there is just insane is uh the situation there is just insane is getting so getting so getting so overcrowded you know migrants are taking overcrowded you know migrants are taking overcrowded you know migrants are taking over certain places and every little over certain places and every little over certain places and every little small town basically small town basically small town basically there's a law now even the little rural there's a law now even the little rural there's a law now even the little rural villages have to take in migrants so villages have to take in migrants so villages have to take in migrants so it's it's it's massive crime is coming in fast and massive crime is coming in fast and massive crime is coming in fast and these cute little you know these cute little you know these cute little you know dutch towns and the retirement age is dutch towns and the retirement age is dutch towns and the retirement age is getting older like sweden getting older like sweden getting older like sweden it's hard to find housing for people it's hard to find housing for people it's hard to find housing for people that want to have more children it's that want to have more children it's that want to have more children it's just awful so yeah just awful so yeah just awful so yeah yeah all right we'll play that interview yeah all right we'll play that interview yeah all right we'll play that interview then huh i sent you then huh i sent you then huh i sent you an article actually from the new an article actually from the new an article actually from the new observer and it was called invaders observer and it was called invaders observer and it was called invaders given given given 10 000 euros in cash in holland so what 10 000 euros in cash in holland so what 10 000 euros in cash in holland so what did you think when you saw that article did you think when you saw that article did you think when you saw that article um when i saw that uh i thought oh wow um when i saw that uh i thought oh wow um when i saw that uh i thought oh wow that's even a new level of uh yeah of that's even a new level of uh yeah of that's even a new level of uh yeah of bad bad bad 10 000 euros i mean that's 12 000 u.s 10 000 euros i mean that's 12 000 u.s 10 000 euros i mean that's 12 000 u.s dollars in cash so do dutch families get dollars in cash so do dutch families get dollars in cash so do dutch families get any aid like this any aid like this any aid like this yeah it depends uh what what their yeah it depends uh what what their yeah it depends uh what what their problems are but problems are but problems are but uh well i was talking to my neighbor he uh well i was talking to my neighbor he uh well i was talking to my neighbor he used to be homeless and when he was used to be homeless and when he was used to be homeless and when he was finally given a home finally given a home finally given a home after years of waiting for it he had to

after years of waiting for it he had to after years of waiting for it he had to borrow some money to borrow some money to borrow some money to be able to get some stuff and so he was be able to get some stuff and so he was be able to get some stuff and so he was uh pretty angry about the news uh pretty angry about the news uh pretty angry about the news yeah okay so holland it's it's small yeah okay so holland it's it's small yeah okay so holland it's it's small it's very overcrowded so it's very overcrowded so it's very overcrowded so tell us what the situation is there with tell us what the situation is there with tell us what the situation is there with the migrants coming in the migrants coming in the migrants coming in in the overcrowdedness well um in the overcrowdedness well um in the overcrowdedness well um i remember when i was in school in 1992 i remember when i was in school in 1992 i remember when i was in school in 1992 i learned that holland had 14 million i learned that holland had 14 million i learned that holland had 14 million inhabitants that's 17 million now with inhabitants that's 17 million now with inhabitants that's 17 million now with the original population shrinking the original population shrinking the original population shrinking shrinking so uh that's three million shrinking so uh that's three million shrinking so uh that's three million migrants have been coming in since 1992. migrants have been coming in since 1992. migrants have been coming in since 1992. um and well it is very overcrowded we um and well it is very overcrowded we um and well it is very overcrowded we learned that we are learned that we are learned that we are the second most crowded or third most the second most crowded or third most the second most crowded or third most crowded country in the world right after crowded country in the world right after crowded country in the world right after something like bangladesh or something something like bangladesh or something something like bangladesh or something geez geez geez we've always been fighting water we had we've always been fighting water we had we've always been fighting water we had major floods in the 50s major floods in the 50s major floods in the 50s we still don't even know if there's we still don't even know if there's we still don't even know if there's enough land for us in the future enough land for us in the future enough land for us in the future if if there's really a problem with if if there's really a problem with if if there's really a problem with water or anything water or anything water or anything there's major housing shortage and there's major housing shortage and there's major housing shortage and people wait 10 years for a rental people wait 10 years for a rental people wait 10 years for a rental apartment there's a tremendous traffic apartment there's a tremendous traffic apartment there's a tremendous traffic jam it's really bad and the trains are jam it's really bad and the trains are jam it's really bad and the trains are also full so the infrastructure can also full so the infrastructure can also full so the infrastructure can really can't take anymore um yeah and really can't take anymore um yeah and really can't take anymore um yeah and it's just very busy people who've been it's just very busy people who've been it's just very busy people who've been on holiday and land back on holiday and land back on holiday and land back in holland they immediately feel a in holland they immediately feel a in holland they immediately feel a stressy atmosphere because it's just stressy atmosphere because it's just stressy atmosphere because it's just very very crowded and the migrants very very crowded and the migrants very very crowded and the migrants coming in

coming in coming in the some of our liberal politicians have the some of our liberal politicians have the some of our liberal politicians have been saying been saying been saying we can take 200 000 a year and that's we can take 200 000 a year and that's we can take 200 000 a year and that's without without without family members coming over uh right family members coming over uh right family members coming over uh right after they have been let in so that that after they have been let in so that that after they have been let in so that that is a million a year is a million a year is a million a year that's what uh people in government have that's what uh people in government have that's what uh people in government have been talking been talking been talking um that's ridiculous i heard that um that's ridiculous i heard that um that's ridiculous i heard that they're even putting they're even putting they're even putting migrants in these empty jails i mean migrants in these empty jails i mean migrants in these empty jails i mean basically any empty buildings they're basically any empty buildings they're basically any empty buildings they're putting them in there i mean this is putting them in there i mean this is putting them in there i mean this is ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous yeah military bases that we might need yeah military bases that we might need yeah military bases that we might need to defend ourselves to defend ourselves to defend ourselves yeah and also uh asylum yeah and also uh asylum yeah and also uh asylum centers right next to schools day care centers right next to schools day care centers right next to schools day care centers elderly homes in the middle of centers elderly homes in the middle of centers elderly homes in the middle of neighborhoods neighborhoods neighborhoods deliberately in the middle of uh of deliberately in the middle of uh of deliberately in the middle of uh of neighborhoods neighborhoods neighborhoods where people live so that they can where people live so that they can where people live so that they can integrate quickly that's the theory integrate quickly that's the theory integrate quickly that's the theory they're using they're using they're using yeah now i think you said in an email to yeah now i think you said in an email to yeah now i think you said in an email to me that 75 me that 75 me that 75 of these so-called refugees they're of these so-called refugees they're of these so-called refugees they're they're on welfare long-term right they're on welfare long-term right they're on welfare long-term right yeah that was um i knew it already but yeah that was um i knew it already but yeah that was um i knew it already but it took some it took some it took some digging into the government website to digging into the government website to digging into the government website to get those numbers but now they have been get those numbers but now they have been get those numbers but now they have been published published published by the media that the syrians even those by the media that the syrians even those by the media that the syrians even those who have been here for two or three who have been here for two or three who have been here for two or three years are years are years are 75 percent on welfare the same with the 75 percent on welfare the same with the 75 percent on welfare the same with the somalians who came before them and the somalians who came before them and the somalians who came before them and the iraqis and iraqis and iraqis and the afghans and the syrians have been the afghans and the syrians have been the afghans and the syrians have been basically sold to us not that we basically sold to us not that we basically sold to us not that we believed it believed it believed it as a very educated people and they tried as a very educated people and they tried as a very educated people and they tried to to to sell us a story that they we're gonna

sell us a story that they we're gonna sell us a story that they we're gonna improve our economy and they improve our economy and they improve our economy and they gonna help us with them you know that we gonna help us with them you know that we gonna help us with them you know that we don't have enough children and they were don't have enough children and they were don't have enough children and they were gonna save us from that but gonna save us from that but gonna save us from that but they're on welfare even if they don't they're on welfare even if they don't they're on welfare even if they don't wanna be there's no jobs for them wanna be there's no jobs for them wanna be there's no jobs for them i mean are the dutch angry you guys are i mean are the dutch angry you guys are i mean are the dutch angry you guys are giving 10 000 giving 10 000 giving 10 000 euros per one one invader family coming euros per one one invader family coming euros per one one invader family coming in that's a lot of money 12 000 us in that's a lot of money 12 000 us in that's a lot of money 12 000 us dollars that's coming from dollars that's coming from dollars that's coming from your tax money right are people mad your tax money right are people mad your tax money right are people mad yeah well yeah um this is um the first yeah well yeah um this is um the first yeah well yeah um this is um the first thing i heard about thing i heard about thing i heard about that everybody was mad about um that everybody was mad about um that everybody was mad about um most people in holland they get a lot of most people in holland they get a lot of most people in holland they get a lot of second-hand stuff for their houses second-hand stuff for their houses second-hand stuff for their houses buying everything new that's only for buying everything new that's only for buying everything new that's only for the rich the rich the rich nobody gets that much money even if you nobody gets that much money even if you nobody gets that much money even if you get forced to move get forced to move get forced to move uh you get maybe 5 000 and that includes uh you get maybe 5 000 and that includes uh you get maybe 5 000 and that includes having to move your stuff from one place having to move your stuff from one place having to move your stuff from one place to another you know to another you know to another you know renting a truck something these refugees renting a truck something these refugees renting a truck something these refugees don't need don't need don't need and this was only one little village and this was only one little village and this was only one little village that got that got that got this much the average is lower um this much the average is lower um this much the average is lower um i thought it was a three and a half i thought it was a three and a half i thought it was a three and a half thousand but still there are many uh thousand but still there are many uh thousand but still there are many uh richer cities that choose to do it like richer cities that choose to do it like richer cities that choose to do it like this this this happy people are are angry and many happy people are are angry and many happy people are are angry and many people here people here people here live at a minimum you know they they live at a minimum you know they they live at a minimum you know they they have um have um have um hardly enough to get by so hardly enough to get by so hardly enough to get by so nobody has 10 000 euros easily it takes nobody has 10 000 euros easily it takes nobody has 10 000 euros easily it takes you years of saving you years of saving you years of saving now tell us about the politicians who now tell us about the politicians who now tell us about the politicians who are being attacked that are speaking out are being attacked that are speaking out are being attacked that are speaking out against this uh against this uh against this uh this kind of mass immigration yeah uh

this kind of mass immigration yeah uh this kind of mass immigration yeah uh the history of holland i think holland the history of holland i think holland the history of holland i think holland um um um was like denmark was one of the earliest was like denmark was one of the earliest was like denmark was one of the earliest european countries european countries european countries where the people woke up because um yeah where the people woke up because um yeah where the people woke up because um yeah i woke up about the migrant situation i woke up about the migrant situation i woke up about the migrant situation um in the 90s we had a politician who um in the 90s we had a politician who um in the 90s we had a politician who was very early speaking out he was too was very early speaking out he was too was very early speaking out he was too early early early his name was hans yanmat and he said his name was hans yanmat and he said his name was hans yanmat and he said very moderate things things that very moderate things things that very moderate things things that everybody understands today everybody understands today everybody understands today but the left wing was so um angry at him but the left wing was so um angry at him but the left wing was so um angry at him that that that uh i believe it was a car bomb that they uh i believe it was a car bomb that they uh i believe it was a car bomb that they put put put in his car and his wife lost a leg in his car and his wife lost a leg in his car and his wife lost a leg and after that when uh his wife would and after that when uh his wife would and after that when uh his wife would come into uh come into uh come into uh congress uh with her one leg people congress uh with her one leg people congress uh with her one leg people would even laugh would even laugh would even laugh oh that's awful that's awful yeah last oh that's awful that's awful yeah last oh that's awful that's awful yeah last year a book was published about that year a book was published about that year a book was published about that history that's how our first politician history that's how our first politician history that's how our first politician um who spoke out um who spoke out um who spoke out got treated but then uh another got treated but then uh another got treated but then uh another politician a pimp for town have you politician a pimp for town have you politician a pimp for town have you heard about him heard about him heard about him no pimperton was a very big in holland no pimperton was a very big in holland no pimperton was a very big in holland he was um he was um he was um going to win he was probably going to going to win he was probably going to going to win he was probably going to become prime minister become prime minister become prime minister couldn't be sure but he was going to win couldn't be sure but he was going to win couldn't be sure but he was going to win and i think and i think and i think something like nine days before something like nine days before something like nine days before elections elections elections he got shot by a left-wing extremist he got shot by a left-wing extremist he got shot by a left-wing extremist with him that opportunity to have an with him that opportunity to have an with him that opportunity to have an anti-immigration prime minister anti-immigration prime minister anti-immigration prime minister died and his party members still got died and his party members still got died and his party members still got voted in so many people voted for him voted in so many people voted for him voted in so many people voted for him even though he was dead even though he was dead even though he was dead and then uh here the wilders came up and

and then uh here the wilders came up and and then uh here the wilders came up and everybody knows wilder's right everybody knows wilder's right everybody knows wilder's right internationally yeah but he needs a 24 internationally yeah but he needs a 24 internationally yeah but he needs a 24 7 protection uh paid by the dutch 7 protection uh paid by the dutch 7 protection uh paid by the dutch citizens citizens citizens he he sleeps with guards and in front of he he sleeps with guards and in front of he he sleeps with guards and in front of his bedroom his bedroom his bedroom he's never alone yeah and then we had uh he's never alone yeah and then we had uh he's never alone yeah and then we had uh theo van gho theo van gho theo van gho he was uh vincent fengo's a great he was uh vincent fengo's a great he was uh vincent fengo's a great grandson i believe grandson i believe grandson i believe uh he was a filmmaker he made a film uh he was a filmmaker he made a film uh he was a filmmaker he made a film with uh uh ayan here she ali with uh uh ayan here she ali with uh uh ayan here she ali about islam called submission and about islam called submission and about islam called submission and that cost him his life he was that cost him his life he was that cost him his life he was slaughtered in broad daylight slaughtered in broad daylight slaughtered in broad daylight they left an islamic note on his body they left an islamic note on his body they left an islamic note on his body with a with a with a stuck to his body with a knife i don't stuck to his body with a knife i don't stuck to his body with a knife i don't know how people get away know how people get away know how people get away with uh being extremely left-wing we with uh being extremely left-wing we with uh being extremely left-wing we have we have have we have have we have ridiculous politicians like the one who ridiculous politicians like the one who ridiculous politicians like the one who said we can have 200 000 next year said we can have 200 000 next year said we can have 200 000 next year yeah i think in holland um i think yeah i think in holland um i think yeah i think in holland um i think one-third of the country is wide awake one-third of the country is wide awake one-third of the country is wide awake and and and demands this to stop and two-thirds demands this to stop and two-thirds demands this to stop and two-thirds watch television every day and are told watch television every day and are told watch television every day and are told every day that uh every day that uh every day that uh islam is a religion of peace that we islam is a religion of peace that we islam is a religion of peace that we need to help these people that we're so need to help these people that we're so need to help these people that we're so rich that we shouldn't be um rich that we shouldn't be um rich that we shouldn't be um you know i shouldn't keep it all to you know i shouldn't keep it all to you know i shouldn't keep it all to ourselves so yeah a lot of people still ourselves so yeah a lot of people still ourselves so yeah a lot of people still need to wake up need to wake up need to wake up so what is the future what do you have so what is the future what do you have so what is the future what do you have for anti-immigration parties are you for anti-immigration parties are you for anti-immigration parties are you hopeful of anything because pinfortain hopeful of anything because pinfortain hopeful of anything because pinfortain who was a great candidate got murdered who was a great candidate got murdered who was a great candidate got murdered we're now we're now we're now basically stuck with the freedom party basically stuck with the freedom party basically stuck with the freedom party which is better than nothing but very which is better than nothing but very which is better than nothing but very zionist and uh well zionist and uh well zionist and uh well yeah not the kind of people i would yeah not the kind of people i would yeah not the kind of people i would trust but i think many people are

trust but i think many people are trust but i think many people are still going to vote for him and even if still going to vote for him and even if still going to vote for him and even if he wins he wins he wins um they've already said there's going to um they've already said there's going to um they've already said there's going to be a what they call a cordon sanitary be a what they call a cordon sanitary be a what they call a cordon sanitary that's what's happening in belgium that that's what's happening in belgium that that's what's happening in belgium that all parties declare that they will never all parties declare that they will never all parties declare that they will never go into office with the freedom party so go into office with the freedom party so go into office with the freedom party so um yeah so even if they win they're um yeah so even if they win they're um yeah so even if they win they're going to be the biggest party they're going to be the biggest party they're going to be the biggest party they're still gonna be still gonna be still gonna be opposition yeah the dutch for some opposition yeah the dutch for some opposition yeah the dutch for some reason they are reason they are reason they are always so calm they're so calm if you always so calm they're so calm if you always so calm they're so calm if you see france and belgium and spain and see france and belgium and spain and see france and belgium and spain and italy everybody's in the streets italy everybody's in the streets italy everybody's in the streets protesting protesting protesting and here we're sitting on the couch and here we're sitting on the couch and here we're sitting on the couch watching television i don't know watching television i don't know watching television i don't know it's still not happening there were it's still not happening there were it's still not happening there were protests against protests against protests against asylum centers all over the place and uh asylum centers all over the place and uh asylum centers all over the place and uh uh i helped with that um uh i helped with that um uh i helped with that um there was for example this town a small there was for example this town a small there was for example this town a small town hayes town hayes town hayes in the same province where uh osterwig in the same province where uh osterwig in the same province where uh osterwig now is giving the people now is giving the people now is giving the people so much money to move um and there so much money to move um and there so much money to move um and there yeah there was so much protest that uh yeah there was so much protest that uh yeah there was so much protest that uh city council could not city council could not city council could not have that asylum center there but that have that asylum center there but that have that asylum center there but that took took took hanging pigs from trees um they they put hanging pigs from trees um they they put hanging pigs from trees um they they put lots of sand in the mayor's garden they lots of sand in the mayor's garden they lots of sand in the mayor's garden they they threw fireworks try to break the they threw fireworks try to break the they threw fireworks try to break the windows of them windows of them windows of them the city council building and later did the city council building and later did the city council building and later did so it was lots of violence so it was lots of violence so it was lots of violence yeah that's how they did it so there is yeah that's how they did it so there is yeah that's how they did it so there is protest but it's local protest but it's local protest but it's local and it's usually in the country the big and it's usually in the country the big and it's usually in the country the big cities are numb cities are numb cities are numb they're totally numb and very muslim they're totally numb and very muslim they're totally numb and very muslim already

already already oh geez what is the muslim population in oh geez what is the muslim population in oh geez what is the muslim population in holland now holland now holland now um it's a one uh uh slightly over one um it's a one uh uh slightly over one um it's a one uh uh slightly over one million at the moment million at the moment million at the moment and we have another one million and we have another one million and we have another one million non-western immigrants many of which non-western immigrants many of which non-western immigrants many of which are basically on on the side of freedom are basically on on the side of freedom are basically on on the side of freedom but um not all but um not all but um not all some and we have islamic parties now some and we have islamic parties now some and we have islamic parties now in cities and also um we have a in cities and also um we have a in cities and also um we have a basically a turkish party basically a turkish party basically a turkish party i like all attention that holland can i like all attention that holland can i like all attention that holland can get for their problems because we cannot get for their problems because we cannot get for their problems because we cannot solve it by ourselves solve it by ourselves solve it by ourselves we we need to work together all right we we need to work together all right we we need to work together all right thanks thanks thanks you're welcome wow how about that huh you're welcome wow how about that huh you're welcome wow how about that huh incorrect just outrageous makes me so incorrect just outrageous makes me so incorrect just outrageous makes me so mad we were there in holland and mad we were there in holland and mad we were there in holland and you were driving around in the you were driving around in the you were driving around in the countryside i was like what countryside countryside i was like what countryside countryside i was like what countryside it's like it's like it's like oh it's all it's all farms it's all oh it's all it's all farms it's all oh it's all it's all farms it's all being built up being built up being built up there's no room people there's no room there's no room people there's no room there's no room people there's no room in europe in germany all these places it in europe in germany all these places it in europe in germany all these places it has to stop africa is people has to stop africa is people has to stop africa is people huge yeah africa middle east asia it's huge yeah africa middle east asia it's huge yeah africa middle east asia it's easy easy easy land you know huge lands uh continents land you know huge lands uh continents land you know huge lands uh continents if they're so equal to us if they're so equal to us if they're so equal to us they can build something there well they can build something there well they can build something there well that's what that's what disproving that's what that's what disproving that's what that's what disproving equality equality equality right off the bat right there you know right off the bat right there you know right off the bat right there you know if we're all equal why haven't they if we're all equal why haven't they if we're all equal why haven't they created european civilization created european civilization created european civilization civilization in their countries and of civilization in their countries and of civilization in their countries and of course we know all these people aren't course we know all these people aren't course we know all these people aren't refugees but even syria refugees but even syria refugees but even syria it's syria is a big country we're it's syria is a big country we're it's syria is a big country we're looking at the map the other day it's looking at the map the other day it's looking at the map the other day it's actually quite big and actually quite big and actually quite big and the whole country isn't in a state of the whole country isn't in a state of the whole country isn't in a state of war there's places they can go and build war there's places they can go and build war there's places they can go and build things if they made the iphone they can

things if they made the iphone they can things if they made the iphone they can build a new little town or something build a new little town or something build a new little town or something well they didn't make the iphone they well they didn't make the iphone they well they didn't make the iphone they copied or they they got the contract to copied or they they got the contract to copied or they they got the contract to build it build it build it yeah after white's where they're yeah after white's where they're yeah after white's where they're building up the factories yeah building up the factories yeah building up the factories yeah all right anyway about her tia i want to all right anyway about her tia i want to all right anyway about her tia i want to say that uh hopefully she doesn't get say that uh hopefully she doesn't get say that uh hopefully she doesn't get mad at me for saying this but she is mad at me for saying this but she is mad at me for saying this but she is single single single so oh yeah yeah there you go maybe uh so oh yeah yeah there you go maybe uh so oh yeah yeah there you go maybe uh someone who's over in holland wants to someone who's over in holland wants to someone who's over in holland wants to connect with her she's a connect with her she's a connect with her she's a beautiful young psychologist and on the beautiful young psychologist and on the beautiful young psychologist and on the same page same page same page so well well we gotta vet these guys so well well we gotta vet these guys so well well we gotta vet these guys down before we send them down before we send them down before we send them forward to uh some credentials forward to uh some credentials forward to uh some credentials no but that's good we gotta help people no but that's good we gotta help people no but that's good we gotta help people to uh to hook up here you know that's to uh to hook up here you know that's to uh to hook up here you know that's true true true right we talked about that though for right we talked about that though for right we talked about that though for like a social network we should have like a social network we should have like a social network we should have like like like we should have like a dating you know we should have like a dating you know we should have like a dating you know section in there or something you know section in there or something you know section in there or something you know but we just don't want it to be tons of but we just don't want it to be tons of but we just don't want it to be tons of guys and then new girls you know guys and then new girls you know guys and then new girls you know what happened but there are a lot of what happened but there are a lot of what happened but there are a lot of girls girls talk to other girls yeah so girls girls talk to other girls yeah so girls girls talk to other girls yeah so i hear i hear i hear i hear from all those girls all the time i hear from all those girls all the time i hear from all those girls all the time so i'm always thinking who can i set her so i'm always thinking who can i set her so i'm always thinking who can i set her up up up well we saw that at hammer and there was well we saw that at hammer and there was well we saw that at hammer and there was probably more women at a conference like probably more women at a conference like probably more women at a conference like that than i've ever seen before that than i've ever seen before that than i've ever seen before that is which is very very good they that is which is very very good they that is which is very very good they were single and then also many with were single and then also many with were single and then also many with their their their their men but there were single ones their men but there were single ones their men but there were single ones time to shut it down time to shut it down time to shut it down before babies get made here