Everyone Gets A Software Company — Benjamin Guo, Zo Computer

>> Hello everybody. I'm Ben from Zoho >> Hello everybody. I'm Ben from Zoho Computer. I just posted on X from my Computer. I just posted on X from my Computer. I just posted on X from my Zoho. Zoho. Zoho. You know, I'll be giving away $100 in AI You know, I'll be giving away $100 in AI You know, I'll be giving away $100 in AI credits and I do all sorts of stuff with credits and I do all sorts of stuff with credits and I do all sorts of stuff with my Zoho. my Zoho. my Zoho. This is my computer. My Zoho is my This is my computer. My Zoho is my This is my computer. My Zoho is my computer. And before I get started, I computer. And before I get started, I computer. And before I get started, I made the site just now while I was made the site just now while I was made the site just now while I was waiting to get started presenting. This waiting to get started presenting. This waiting to get started presenting. This is a kind of overview of all the is a kind of overview of all the is a kind of overview of all the speakers in today's claw session. You speakers in today's claw session. You speakers in today's claw session. You can scan this QR code and check it out. can scan this QR code and check it out. can scan this QR code and check it out. I've got some useful links in here, but I've got some useful links in here, but I've got some useful links in here, but also I've got like some deep research on also I've got like some deep research on also I've got like some deep research on everybody presenting including their everybody presenting including their everybody presenting including their recent thoughts, links to their profiles recent thoughts, links to their profiles recent thoughts, links to their profiles and and and websites, blogs, etc. So, scan this. websites, blogs, etc. So, scan this. websites, blogs, etc. So, scan this. It's super useful. I just made it just It's super useful. I just made it just It's super useful. I just made it just now. This is my computer that you see now. This is my computer that you see now. This is my computer that you see right here, my Zoho computer. I'll be right here, my Zoho computer. I'll be right here, my Zoho computer. I'll be talking about it and this talk is about talking about it and this talk is about talking about it and this talk is about kind of Zoho and a lot of things. It's kind of Zoho and a lot of things. It's kind of Zoho and a lot of things. It's also about kind of personal agents, also about kind of personal agents, also about kind of personal agents, personal cloud agents in particular, personal cloud agents in particular, personal cloud agents in particular, which Zoho is one instance of and kind which Zoho is one instance of and kind which Zoho is one instance of and kind of the future and where I see all of of the future and where I see all of of the future and where I see all of this going. this going. this going. So, So, So, a little bit about me. a little bit about me. a little bit about me. I'm the co-founder of Zoho. My name is I'm the co-founder of Zoho. My name is I'm the co-founder of Zoho. My name is Ben. I started my career on the early Ben. I started my career on the early Ben. I started my career on the early Venmo team back in 2013 and um Venmo team back in 2013 and um Venmo team back in 2013 and um I met my co-founder Rob at Venmo and I I met my co-founder Rob at Venmo and I I met my co-founder Rob at Venmo and I left Venmo to work at Stripe quite left Venmo to work at Stripe quite left Venmo to work at Stripe quite early. I was one of the first I was the early. I was one of the first I was the early. I was one of the first I was the 80th engineer and my co-founder Rob, he 80th engineer and my co-founder Rob, he 80th engineer and my co-founder Rob, he went on to build Substack. He was the went on to build Substack. He was the went on to build Substack. He was the first engineer there. And a final fact first engineer there. And a final fact first engineer there. And a final fact about me as you can see is that I really about me as you can see is that I really about me as you can see is that I really love computers. I'm dressed up as a love computers. I'm dressed up as a love computers. I'm dressed up as a computer.

computer. computer. And I like to start with this like fun And I like to start with this like fun And I like to start with this like fun fact about this finder icon. So, this fact about this finder icon. So, this fact about this finder icon. So, this icon was designed by Susan Kare, an icon was designed by Susan Kare, an icon was designed by Susan Kare, an early graphic designer at Apple Computer early graphic designer at Apple Computer early graphic designer at Apple Computer and many people don't know the story and many people don't know the story and many people don't know the story behind this icon, but it actually behind this icon, but it actually behind this icon, but it actually represents the human, this white face, represents the human, this white face, represents the human, this white face, and the machine, this blue face, and and the machine, this blue face, and and the machine, this blue face, and they're kind of like in happy harmony. they're kind of like in happy harmony. they're kind of like in happy harmony. And I think that is what we should And I think that is what we should And I think that is what we should aspire to as we build AI tools for aspire to as we build AI tools for aspire to as we build AI tools for people. Like humans love tools, humans people. Like humans love tools, humans people. Like humans love tools, humans have always loved machines, and like have always loved machines, and like have always loved machines, and like when we feel at one with our machine, we when we feel at one with our machine, we when we feel at one with our machine, we feel like this. We feel happy. feel like this. We feel happy. feel like this. We feel happy. So, who like me misses the way that So, who like me misses the way that So, who like me misses the way that computers used to feel? Raise your hand, computers used to feel? Raise your hand, computers used to feel? Raise your hand, right? Like the early internet, like right? Like the early internet, like right? Like the early internet, like your first website, your first PC. your first website, your first PC. your first website, your first PC. Right? It used to feel different, right? Right? It used to feel different, right? Right? It used to feel different, right? Today, Today, Today, the internet and our computers feels the internet and our computers feels the internet and our computers feels more like this. We are swimming in the more like this. We are swimming in the more like this. We are swimming in the sea of applications and sites and sea of applications and sites and sea of applications and sites and services and services and services and it's not great. it's not great. it's not great. And on top of all of that, And on top of all of that, And on top of all of that, they're jacking up the prices on these they're jacking up the prices on these they're jacking up the prices on these things that we use, often because of AI things that we use, often because of AI things that we use, often because of AI features that we didn't ask for.

features that we didn't ask for. features that we didn't ask for. And And And I think quite reasonably, consumers or I think quite reasonably, consumers or I think quite reasonably, consumers or I'll just call them regular people are I'll just call them regular people are I'll just call them regular people are upset or confused or scared of AI. upset or confused or scared of AI. upset or confused or scared of AI. So, Computer is based in Brooklyn, we're So, Computer is based in Brooklyn, we're So, Computer is based in Brooklyn, we're in Bushwick actually, kind of like the in Bushwick actually, kind of like the in Bushwick actually, kind of like the heart of hipsters in New York, and you heart of hipsters in New York, and you heart of hipsters in New York, and you know, know, know, there's a lot of this out there. I see a there's a lot of this out there. I see a there's a lot of this out there. I see a lot of this kind of vandalism over AI lot of this kind of vandalism over AI lot of this kind of vandalism over AI ads in the city. ads in the city. ads in the city. On top of all of that, this is what our On top of all of that, this is what our On top of all of that, this is what our industry looks like. But the deeper root of why But the deeper root of why this is bad is is a structural thing. this is bad is is a structural thing. this is bad is is a structural thing. It's what we call techno-feudalism. It's what we call techno-feudalism. It's what we call techno-feudalism. So, basically, feudalism was this like So, basically, feudalism was this like So, basically, feudalism was this like kind of shitty system back in the day, kind of shitty system back in the day, kind of shitty system back in the day, and though it no longer exists, it still and though it no longer exists, it still and though it no longer exists, it still is alive and well in our digital lives. is alive and well in our digital lives. is alive and well in our digital lives. So, we are still the peasants, we pay So, we are still the peasants, we pay So, we are still the peasants, we pay rent to the SaaS providers who pay rent rent to the SaaS providers who pay rent rent to the SaaS providers who pay rent to the cloud providers who pay rent to to the cloud providers who pay rent to to the cloud providers who pay rent to the kings who are, you know, like the kings who are, you know, like the kings who are, you know, like probably Nvidia these days. probably Nvidia these days. probably Nvidia these days. And because we are peasants, our lives And because we are peasants, our lives And because we are peasants, our lives are shitty. We are fragmented between are shitty. We are fragmented between are shitty. We are fragmented between all these different tools. There are all these different tools. There are all these different tools. There are various services that we use that lock various services that we use that lock various services that we use that lock us in and and shitify over time. Like us in and and shitify over time. Like us in and and shitify over time. Like that PM at that product that you use is that PM at that product that you use is that PM at that product that you use is not incentivized to make your life not incentivized to make your life not incentivized to make your life better. They're incentivized to improve better. They're incentivized to improve better. They're incentivized to improve their bottom line, to monetize your their bottom line, to monetize your their bottom line, to monetize your attention, to take your data, lock it attention, to take your data, lock it attention, to take your data, lock it in, and sell it back to you. And because in, and sell it back to you. And because in, and sell it back to you. And because you don't own anything, you are a you don't own anything, you are a you don't own anything, you are a peasant.

peasant. peasant. So Zo, our mission has always been to So Zo, our mission has always been to So Zo, our mission has always been to solve this by giving people a real home solve this by giving people a real home solve this by giving people a real home on the internet. on the internet. on the internet. And we believe that most people in the And we believe that most people in the And we believe that most people in the world are kind of living in the Matrix, world are kind of living in the Matrix, world are kind of living in the Matrix, and we're trying to show people and we're trying to show people and we're trying to show people a better way. So Zo is alive and well. We've been out So Zo is alive and well. We've been out for about a year, and real people are for about a year, and real people are for about a year, and real people are using it. Real regular people like using it. Real regular people like using it. Real regular people like Charlotte, this LA-based private chef Charlotte, this LA-based private chef Charlotte, this LA-based private chef and life coach. She hosts her websites, and life coach. She hosts her websites, and life coach. She hosts her websites, she has multiple websites now, on Zo. Zo she has multiple websites now, on Zo. Zo she has multiple websites now, on Zo. Zo manages her invoices and her accounts manages her invoices and her accounts manages her invoices and her accounts and bookkeeping and her scheduling and and bookkeeping and her scheduling and and bookkeeping and her scheduling and her notes. And it's just like amazing her notes. And it's just like amazing her notes. And it's just like amazing system. It makes her feel like clear and system. It makes her feel like clear and system. It makes her feel like clear and calm and on top of the world, and it's calm and on top of the world, and it's calm and on top of the world, and it's fun. As you can see this text fun. As you can see this text fun. As you can see this text that she sent me. So what is Zo? Zo is a personal cloud. So what is Zo? Zo is a personal cloud. We've never really had a personal cloud We've never really had a personal cloud We've never really had a personal cloud before, but it's quite simple. You have before, but it's quite simple. You have before, but it's quite simple. You have your own home in the cloud. You're not your own home in the cloud. You're not your own home in the cloud. You're not using other cloud services. You have using other cloud services. You have using other cloud services. You have your own thing. You put your stuff in your own thing. You put your stuff in your own thing. You put your stuff in it. You put your AI in it. And because it. You put your AI in it. And because it. You put your AI in it. And because it is it is it is a place in the cloud, you can host stuff a place in the cloud, you can host stuff a place in the cloud, you can host stuff in it. You can host services like in it. You can host services like in it. You can host services like websites or APIs, and they're all yours.

And I think for people in this room, if And I think for people in this room, if you're like interested in clouds and you're like interested in clouds and you're like interested in clouds and personal agents, like your personal personal agents, like your personal personal agents, like your personal cloud might look something more like cloud might look something more like cloud might look something more like this. You might have like a suite of this. You might have like a suite of this. You might have like a suite of local devices. Um and for me, I have local devices. Um and for me, I have local devices. Um and for me, I have like this like Zo computer, this like like this like Zo computer, this like like this like Zo computer, this like cloud computer as well, which has my Zo cloud computer as well, which has my Zo cloud computer as well, which has my Zo agent on it. It also has a Hermes on it, agent on it. It also has a Hermes on it, agent on it. It also has a Hermes on it, and it has my services. I have many and it has my services. I have many and it has my services. I have many websites and APIs and things that I've websites and APIs and things that I've websites and APIs and things that I've built, all hosted in the same place, and built, all hosted in the same place, and built, all hosted in the same place, and it can also talk to my laptop or my Mac it can also talk to my laptop or my Mac it can also talk to my laptop or my Mac mini, or I can use it on my phone. mini, or I can use it on my phone. mini, or I can use it on my phone. And that, collectively, is my personal And that, collectively, is my personal And that, collectively, is my personal cloud. So, Zoe is a personal server with AI So, Zoe is a personal server with AI built in. It's It's quite simple. built in. It's It's quite simple. built in. It's It's quite simple. And it hearkens back to a simpler time. And it hearkens back to a simpler time. And it hearkens back to a simpler time. So, back in the day, this is actually So, back in the day, this is actually So, back in the day, this is actually how we built and hosted websites. We how we built and hosted websites. We how we built and hosted websites. We just FTP'd our files onto a server, and just FTP'd our files onto a server, and just FTP'd our files onto a server, and that updated our website. You were just that updated our website. You were just that updated our website. You were just shipping to prod. You're like always shipping to prod. You're like always shipping to prod. You're like always doing it live. And that's actually, I doing it live. And that's actually, I doing it live. And that's actually, I think, how most people should build. I think, how most people should build. I think, how most people should build. I don't think it's necessary for a regular don't think it's necessary for a regular don't think it's necessary for a regular person like Charlotte to think about person like Charlotte to think about person like Charlotte to think about deployment.

Unfortunately, for many of us in this Unfortunately, for many of us in this room, this is probably what your life room, this is probably what your life room, this is probably what your life looks like, actually. You're kind of looks like, actually. You're kind of looks like, actually. You're kind of just navigating between these different just navigating between these different just navigating between these different AIs and devices and SaaS services, and AIs and devices and SaaS services, and AIs and devices and SaaS services, and it's very confusing. it's very confusing. it's very confusing. Zoe is meant to be a simpler way. It's Zoe is meant to be a simpler way. It's Zoe is meant to be a simpler way. It's one place for all of your stuff and your one place for all of your stuff and your one place for all of your stuff and your AI and the stuff you host, all of your AI and the stuff you host, all of your AI and the stuff you host, all of your personal stuff in the cloud. Here's another case study that I'd like Here's another case study that I'd like to talk about. This is Anthia. She was to talk about. This is Anthia. She was to talk about. This is Anthia. She was one of our early users. She's totally one of our early users. She's totally one of our early users. She's totally non-technical. She's a free-diving non-technical. She's a free-diving non-technical. She's a free-diving instructor, and she's already on track instructor, and she's already on track instructor, and she's already on track to make $100,000 on Zoe. She used to use to make $100,000 on Zoe. She used to use to make $100,000 on Zoe. She used to use all of these different SaaS services to all of these different SaaS services to all of these different SaaS services to run her business and her life, like run her business and her life, like run her business and her life, like Squarespace, like Calendly, etc. And now Squarespace, like Calendly, etc. And now Squarespace, like Calendly, etc. And now she's replaced all of that with Zoe. she's replaced all of that with Zoe. she's replaced all of that with Zoe. She's canceled all of those SaaS She's canceled all of those SaaS She's canceled all of those SaaS subscriptions. She is no longer a subscriptions. She is no longer a subscriptions. She is no longer a peasant. peasant. peasant. Anthia went from this, Anthia went from this, Anthia went from this, kind of being very confused and having kind of being very confused and having kind of being very confused and having her data in all of these different SaaS her data in all of these different SaaS her data in all of these different SaaS silos, and not really being able to silos, and not really being able to silos, and not really being able to connect them very easily, connect them very easily, connect them very easily, to this. So, Anthea not only hosts her to this. So, Anthea not only hosts her to this. So, Anthea not only hosts her retreat website on Zo on a custom retreat website on Zo on a custom retreat website on Zo on a custom domain. She has many different websites domain. She has many different websites domain. She has many different websites now. She has her personal workspace that now. She has her personal workspace that now. She has her personal workspace that looks like this. She's really into looks like this. She's really into looks like this. She's really into fairies and like drawing and mushrooms fairies and like drawing and mushrooms fairies and like drawing and mushrooms and she's like expressing her whole self and she's like expressing her whole self and she's like expressing her whole self and her creativity online in this new and her creativity online in this new and her creativity online in this new way that we kind of really haven't had way that we kind of really haven't had way that we kind of really haven't had as regular people for a long time since as regular people for a long time since as regular people for a long time since like the '90s.

like the '90s. like the '90s. And under the hood, like all of those And under the hood, like all of those And under the hood, like all of those sites are just the tip of the iceberg. sites are just the tip of the iceberg. sites are just the tip of the iceberg. So, when Anthea gets somebody who's So, when Anthea gets somebody who's So, when Anthea gets somebody who's interested in a retreat, Zo texts her interested in a retreat, Zo texts her interested in a retreat, Zo texts her with their number. with their number. with their number. Anthea now immediately calls them at Anthea now immediately calls them at Anthea now immediately calls them at that moment of intent to buy. She texts that moment of intent to buy. She texts that moment of intent to buy. She texts her Zo, "Give me a payment link." And her Zo, "Give me a payment link." And her Zo, "Give me a payment link." And she closes the deal right then and she closes the deal right then and she closes the deal right then and there. And that is how she is actually there. And that is how she is actually there. And that is how she is actually booking much more revenue than before booking much more revenue than before booking much more revenue than before with these retreats. Like her retreats with these retreats. Like her retreats with these retreats. Like her retreats are now like actually kind of hard to are now like actually kind of hard to are now like actually kind of hard to book because there's too much demand. book because there's too much demand. book because there's too much demand. And that's amazing. And under the hood, And that's amazing. And under the hood, And that's amazing. And under the hood, she has a database for all of her she has a database for all of her she has a database for all of her retreats. She doesn't really know what a retreats. She doesn't really know what a retreats. She doesn't really know what a database is, but she has one. She has database is, but she has one. She has database is, but she has one. She has all of her notes, all of her accounting, all of her notes, all of her accounting, all of her notes, all of her accounting, and it's all in one place. If she has and it's all in one place. If she has and it's all in one place. If she has like some images from a retreat and she like some images from a retreat and she like some images from a retreat and she wants to put those on her website, she wants to put those on her website, she wants to put those on her website, she just tells her Zo to do it and it's like just tells her Zo to do it and it's like just tells her Zo to do it and it's like right there. She can like host files right there. She can like host files right there. She can like host files directly from her personal server. And directly from her personal server. And directly from her personal server. And she is self-hosting everything. she is self-hosting everything. she is self-hosting everything. So, Zo is made to be simple enough for So, Zo is made to be simple enough for So, Zo is made to be simple enough for anyone, for people like Anthea, for my anyone, for people like Anthea, for my anyone, for people like Anthea, for my parents, for other people's parents. parents, for other people's parents. parents, for other people's parents. People are always telling me on like People are always telling me on like People are always telling me on like LinkedIn or X that like they sign up LinkedIn or X that like they sign up LinkedIn or X that like they sign up their parent for their parents to Zo and their parent for their parents to Zo and their parent for their parents to Zo and their parents are like five coding up a their parents are like five coding up a their parents are like five coding up a storm. It was awesome to see. I just got storm. It was awesome to see. I just got storm. It was awesome to see. I just got this message on LinkedIn the other day.

this message on LinkedIn the other day. this message on LinkedIn the other day. Our caterer uses Zo um to kind of manage Our caterer uses Zo um to kind of manage Our caterer uses Zo um to kind of manage his staff at his restaurant. Our his staff at his restaurant. Our his staff at his restaurant. Our recruiter uses Zo as well. He's really recruiter uses Zo as well. He's really recruiter uses Zo as well. He's really into it and he's like kind of building a into it and he's like kind of building a into it and he's like kind of building a whole He's like rebuilding his his stack whole He's like rebuilding his his stack whole He's like rebuilding his his stack for his recruiting agency on Zo. Our for his recruiting agency on Zo. Our for his recruiting agency on Zo. Our marketing agency has become Zo-pilled. marketing agency has become Zo-pilled. marketing agency has become Zo-pilled. So, it's made for everybody. So, it's made for everybody. So, it's made for everybody. But it's also powerful enough for the But it's also powerful enough for the But it's also powerful enough for the audience in this room. audience in this room. audience in this room. It can be the home for your Open Claw or It can be the home for your Open Claw or It can be the home for your Open Claw or your Hermes. You can have a really your Hermes. You can have a really your Hermes. You can have a really nicely set up server to host your nicely set up server to host your nicely set up server to host your personal agent in if you use one of personal agent in if you use one of personal agent in if you use one of those tools. those tools. those tools. You can bring your codex or Gemini or You can bring your codex or Gemini or You can bring your codex or Gemini or etc. subscriptions and you can build and etc. subscriptions and you can build and etc. subscriptions and you can build and host anything. You have like root access host anything. You have like root access host anything. You have like root access to your own server to this very nicely to your own server to this very nicely to your own server to this very nicely set up Linux VM where like the set up Linux VM where like the set up Linux VM where like the networking is also like very well set up networking is also like very well set up networking is also like very well set up and you don't really have to worry about and you don't really have to worry about and you don't really have to worry about any of it. You can SSH in and you can any of it. You can SSH in and you can any of it. You can SSH in and you can control your Zo via API or MCP. So, very control your Zo via API or MCP. So, very control your Zo via API or MCP. So, very flexible. flexible. flexible. So, scan this QR code if you haven't yet So, scan this QR code if you haven't yet So, scan this QR code if you haven't yet uh to get $100 in AI credits. Um uh to get $100 in AI credits. Um uh to get $100 in AI credits. Um just try Zo. I I think you'll like it. just try Zo. I I think you'll like it. just try Zo. I I think you'll like it. And I'm going to do a little demo and And I'm going to do a little demo and And I'm going to do a little demo and then I'll have a little bit more to talk then I'll have a little bit more to talk then I'll have a little bit more to talk about after that. Um about after that. Um about after that. Um >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> So, really quick demo of Zo. You already >> So, really quick demo of Zo. You already >> So, really quick demo of Zo. You already saw it in the beginning, but Zo is this saw it in the beginning, but Zo is this saw it in the beginning, but Zo is this like nice kind of cloud workspace. I like nice kind of cloud workspace. I like nice kind of cloud workspace. I made this website just now. I make all made this website just now. I make all made this website just now. I make all sorts of websites on the fly.

sorts of websites on the fly. sorts of websites on the fly. Um Um Um you can chat with really any model as I you can chat with really any model as I you can chat with really any model as I mentioned. You can bring your own API mentioned. You can bring your own API mentioned. You can bring your own API key. You can even talk to Claude code in key. You can even talk to Claude code in key. You can even talk to Claude code in here. here. here. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> You've got this nice file system, >> You've got this nice file system, >> You've got this nice file system, built-in cloud storage because it's your built-in cloud storage because it's your built-in cloud storage because it's your server. You can just like use it as a server. You can just like use it as a server. You can just like use it as a Dropbox. Dropbox. Dropbox. Um and you know, you can obviously like Um and you know, you can obviously like Um and you know, you can obviously like work agentically in the chat with any of work agentically in the chat with any of work agentically in the chat with any of your files. your files. your files. You've got automations. So, you can kind You've got automations. So, you can kind You've got automations. So, you can kind of run tasks on a schedule with AI. of run tasks on a schedule with AI. of run tasks on a schedule with AI. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> You've got tons of built-in >> You've got tons of built-in >> You've got tons of built-in integrations. You don't have to set any integrations. You don't have to set any integrations. You don't have to set any of this up. of this up. of this up. We have [snorts] lots of skills, a large We have [snorts] lots of skills, a large We have [snorts] lots of skills, a large skill library. There's a built-in skill library. There's a built-in skill library. There's a built-in browser, so you can log in to sites and browser, so you can log in to sites and browser, so you can log in to sites and let your Zo like buy things for you or let your Zo like buy things for you or let your Zo like buy things for you or do whatever. Actually, I always text my do whatever. Actually, I always text my do whatever. Actually, I always text my Zo these days to buy stuff on Amazon. Zo these days to buy stuff on Amazon. Zo these days to buy stuff on Amazon. It's like really dangerous for impulse It's like really dangerous for impulse It's like really dangerous for impulse purchasing. I like see something I'm purchasing. I like see something I'm purchasing. I like see something I'm like, let's buy it. like, let's buy it. like, let's buy it. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> Um and as I mentioned, you can host >> Um and as I mentioned, you can host >> Um and as I mentioned, you can host stuff. So, you can really host anything, stuff. So, you can really host anything, stuff. So, you can really host anything, any arbitrary service, HTTP or TCP. And any arbitrary service, HTTP or TCP. And any arbitrary service, HTTP or TCP. And we also give you a really nice built-in we also give you a really nice built-in we also give you a really nice built-in personal website. This is my Zo space personal website. This is my Zo space personal website. This is my Zo space and this is all set up nicely and it's and this is all set up nicely and it's and this is all set up nicely and it's got like, you know, nice kind of like got like, you know, nice kind of like got like, you know, nice kind of like live coding features. Um and you just live coding features. Um and you just live coding features. Um and you just chat with it to edit it. And I've built chat with it to edit it. And I've built chat with it to edit it. And I've built all sorts of cool things inside of here.

all sorts of cool things inside of here. all sorts of cool things inside of here. Um this for example is like my Calendly Um this for example is like my Calendly Um this for example is like my Calendly replacement. People can book time with replacement. People can book time with replacement. People can book time with me and it has just like this custom me and it has just like this custom me and it has just like this custom setup that I like. Um and my Zo can like setup that I like. Um and my Zo can like setup that I like. Um and my Zo can like review the people that are interested. I review the people that are interested. I review the people that are interested. I don't want anybody like booking time don't want anybody like booking time don't want anybody like booking time with me directly. with me directly. with me directly. Um Um Um and so that's kind of like what Zo is and so that's kind of like what Zo is and so that's kind of like what Zo is and I want to conclude by just talking a and I want to conclude by just talking a and I want to conclude by just talking a little bit about the future. So little bit about the future. So little bit about the future. So the reason we're building Zo is to build the reason we're building Zo is to build the reason we're building Zo is to build a future and better internet, one that a future and better internet, one that a future and better internet, one that looks more like this where looks more like this where looks more like this where everybody, [snorts] everybody, [snorts] everybody, [snorts] every individual has a real home, a every individual has a real home, a every individual has a real home, a presence on the internet. And [snorts] presence on the internet. And [snorts] presence on the internet. And [snorts] companies already have this, but like we companies already have this, but like we companies already have this, but like we should interact directly with other should interact directly with other should interact directly with other people on the internet without people on the internet without people on the internet without middlemen. And we should also interact middlemen. And we should also interact middlemen. And we should also interact with like the various companies and with like the various companies and with like the various companies and their AIs. Um and it should be like more their AIs. Um and it should be like more their AIs. Um and it should be like more direct. Another way to look at this is that like Another way to look at this is that like in the future we will probably just be in the future we will probably just be in the future we will probably just be interacting mostly with agents and the interacting mostly with agents and the interacting mostly with agents and the agents will kind of interact with the agents will kind of interact with the agents will kind of interact with the cloud, like these like software 1.0 cloud, like these like software 1.0 cloud, like these like software 1.0 things like websites and APIs.

things like websites and APIs. things like websites and APIs. But [snorts] if you dig a little deeper But [snorts] if you dig a little deeper But [snorts] if you dig a little deeper into here, what's probably actually into here, what's probably actually into here, what's probably actually going to happen is that most of these going to happen is that most of these going to happen is that most of these agents that we interact with will also agents that we interact with will also agents that we interact with will also be in the cloud. Some of them will be be in the cloud. Some of them will be be in the cloud. Some of them will be local, but many of them will be in the local, but many of them will be in the local, but many of them will be in the cloud. And when those agents are in the cloud. And when those agents are in the cloud. And when those agents are in the cloud, the question again is like whose cloud, the question again is like whose cloud, the question again is like whose cloud is it? cloud is it? cloud is it? >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> So >> So >> So Claud tag Claud tag Claud tag is newly out and and Claud tag is is newly out and and Claud tag is is newly out and and Claud tag is actually, if you think about it, a cloud actually, if you think about it, a cloud actually, if you think about it, a cloud agent. It's this like cloud Claud. It's agent. It's this like cloud Claud. It's agent. It's this like cloud Claud. It's like a company level Claud that has like like a company level Claud that has like like a company level Claud that has like all the company's context and [snorts] all the company's context and [snorts] all the company's context and [snorts] anybody can interact with it. And you anybody can interact with it. And you anybody can interact with it. And you know, it's it's an interesting and very know, it's it's an interesting and very know, it's it's an interesting and very like ergonomic model. Town and Victor like ergonomic model. Town and Victor like ergonomic model. Town and Victor are also kind of similar instances of are also kind of similar instances of are also kind of similar instances of this. this. this. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> But >> But >> But the problem with Claud tag is this. the problem with Claud tag is this. the problem with Claud tag is this. Whose cloud is it? Whose Claud is it? Whose cloud is it? Whose Claud is it? Whose cloud is it? Whose Claud is it? It's not really your company's Claud. It's not really your company's Claud. It's not really your company's Claud. And as you kind of improve your Claud And as you kind of improve your Claud And as you kind of improve your Claud tag setup, like what really improves is tag setup, like what really improves is tag setup, like what really improves is Anthropic, right? Like the the arrow is Anthropic, right? Like the the arrow is Anthropic, right? Like the the arrow is pointing the wrong way. And [snorts] this is intelligence And [snorts] this is intelligence feudalism.

feudalism. feudalism. The intelligence now is bubbling up the The intelligence now is bubbling up the The intelligence now is bubbling up the wrong way. wrong way. wrong way. And you are still a peasant again, or And you are still a peasant again, or And you are still a peasant again, or your company is still kind of your company is still kind of your company is still kind of a peasant in a way. a peasant in a way. a peasant in a way. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> And at Zoe believe >> And at Zoe believe >> And at Zoe believe really strongly in changing the way that really strongly in changing the way that really strongly in changing the way that things work and giving people and things work and giving people and things work and giving people and companies more [snorts] ownership over companies more [snorts] ownership over companies more [snorts] ownership over their cloud and over their intelligence. their cloud and over their intelligence. their cloud and over their intelligence. So, we believe that the future should So, we believe that the future should So, we believe that the future should actually look more [snorts] like this. actually look more [snorts] like this. actually look more [snorts] like this. Anybody, a company or an individual Anybody, a company or an individual Anybody, a company or an individual should be able to publish agents and own should be able to publish agents and own should be able to publish agents and own them and have end users and like have them and have end users and like have them and have end users and like have the end usage of their agent improve, the end usage of their agent improve, the end usage of their agent improve, like self-improve their own kind of like self-improve their own kind of like self-improve their own kind of published agent. And that is the future published agent. And that is the future published agent. And that is the future that we're building. We have [snorts] a that we're building. We have [snorts] a that we're building. We have [snorts] a kind of beta version of this. So, kind of beta version of this. So, kind of beta version of this. So, um I'm going to go back to to this Zoe um I'm going to go back to to this Zoe um I'm going to go back to to this Zoe space uh and scan this QR code finally space uh and scan this QR code finally space uh and scan this QR code finally if you want to talk to me, get AI if you want to talk to me, get AI if you want to talk to me, get AI credits, sign up for the beta of this credits, sign up for the beta of this credits, sign up for the beta of this kind of new agent publishing platform.

kind of new agent publishing platform. kind of new agent publishing platform. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> And uh yeah, also you can check out all >> And uh yeah, also you can check out all >> And uh yeah, also you can check out all of the speakers that are presenting on of the speakers that are presenting on of the speakers that are presenting on this Zoe space page. Um I'm Ben from Zoe this Zoe space page. Um I'm Ben from Zoe this Zoe space page. Um I'm Ben from Zoe computer. Thank you. computer. Thank you. computer. Thank you. >> [applause]