The Problem With Shrinking an AI Workstation

I want to build my smallest AI I want to build my smallest AI workstation yet. And the only case I workstation yet. And the only case I workstation yet. And the only case I found near Mac Studio size is the Velka found near Mac Studio size is the Velka found near Mac Studio size is the Velka 3, but mine isn't here yet. So, Dan at 3, but mine isn't here yet. So, Dan at 3, but mine isn't here yet. So, Dan at Micro Center and I are starting with a Micro Center and I are starting with a Micro Center and I are starting with a bigger case and then squeezing bigger case and then squeezing bigger case and then squeezing everything into the Velka and racing it everything into the Velka and racing it everything into the Velka and racing it against the M3 Ultra. Dan doesn't know against the M3 Ultra. Dan doesn't know against the M3 Ultra. Dan doesn't know about the Velka yet. All right, so this about the Velka yet. All right, so this about the Velka yet. All right, so this is Dan. You already probably know who he is Dan. You already probably know who he is Dan. You already probably know who he is. He's been on many videos before. is. He's been on many videos before. is. He's been on many videos before. What's up? What's up? What's up? >> Hey, yeah. Always good [music] to see >> Hey, yeah. Always good [music] to see >> Hey, yeah. Always good [music] to see you. you. you. >> Good to see you, too. I've already told >> Good to see you, too. I've already told >> Good to see you, too. I've already told him a Don't Don't forget to say hello to him a Don't Don't forget to say hello to him a Don't Don't forget to say hello to him in the comments down below and him in the comments down below and him in the comments down below and mention that he has good hair. Yeah, mention that he has good hair. Yeah, mention that he has good hair. Yeah, it's like It's like three times a week it's like It's like three times a week it's like It's like three times a week now. We can make it more than that, I'd now. We can make it more than that, I'd now. We can make it more than that, I'd be really happy. I already told Dan what be really happy. I already told Dan what be really happy. I already told Dan what we're up to. We're doing a really, we're up to. We're doing a really, we're up to. We're doing a really, really small build. What kind of small really small build. What kind of small really small build. What kind of small parts can we put? I want to have an AI parts can we put? I want to have an AI parts can we put? I want to have an AI workstation that's going to be really workstation that's going to be really workstation that's going to be really powerful and I want to be able to put it powerful and I want to be able to put it powerful and I want to be able to put it in my backpack. in my backpack. in my backpack. >> I thought you were trying to build a >> I thought you were trying to build a >> I thought you were trying to build a computer to watch television. I told you computer to watch television. I told you computer to watch television. I told you that this looks like a Blu-ray reader. that this looks like a Blu-ray reader. that this looks like a Blu-ray reader. But, if you want to build inside of this But, if you want to build inside of this But, if you want to build inside of this thing, we definitely have to go for a thing, we definitely have to go for a thing, we definitely have to go for a much smaller make even have like a much smaller make even have like a much smaller make even have like a regular SFF card. What's this? This is a regular SFF card. What's this? This is a regular SFF card. What's this? This is a Silverstone ML09, right?

Silverstone ML09, right? Silverstone ML09, right? >> Yeah, and it doesn't have that much >> Yeah, and it doesn't have that much >> Yeah, and it doesn't have that much space in it. It's 13 [music] by 8 by 4 space in it. It's 13 [music] by 8 by 4 space in it. It's 13 [music] by 8 by 4 as inches for all you European folks as inches for all you European folks as inches for all you European folks watching. But, what kind of GPU can we watching. But, what kind of GPU can we watching. But, what kind of GPU can we put in this? Cuz that's going to be the put in this? Cuz that's going to be the put in this? Cuz that's going to be the driving factor here. We want a GPU driving factor here. We want a GPU driving factor here. We want a GPU [music] that's going to have as much [music] that's going to have as much [music] that's going to have as much VRAM as possible for doing AI workloads. VRAM as possible for doing AI workloads. VRAM as possible for doing AI workloads. >> But, I think we have to get even smaller >> But, I think we have to get even smaller >> But, I think we have to get even smaller for this one, right? So, maybe something for this one, right? So, maybe something for this one, right? So, maybe something like the Pro 4000? [music] like the Pro 4000? [music] like the Pro 4000? [music] >> Do you think a 4000 would fit in there? >> Do you think a 4000 would fit in there? >> Do you think a 4000 would fit in there? >> The SFF one would. >> The SFF one would. >> The SFF one would. >> Hey, look at that. Magic. >> Hey, look at that. Magic. >> Hey, look at that. Magic. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Movie magic. >> Movie magic. >> Movie magic. >> I already told Dan we're coming, so he >> I already told Dan we're coming, so he >> I already told Dan we're coming, so he knows what we're up to. He doesn't know knows what we're up to. He doesn't know knows what we're up to. He doesn't know everything yet. That's That comes later everything yet. That's That comes later everything yet. That's That comes later on. on. on. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Well, now I'm a little worried. >> Well, now I'm a little worried. >> Well, now I'm a little worried. >> Is this it right here? >> Is this it right here? >> Is this it right here? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. Wow. It's a baby. That is >> Oh my gosh. Wow. It's a baby. That is >> Oh my gosh. Wow. It's a baby. That is quite a seal. quite a seal. quite a seal. Look at that. Now, because it's so Look at that. Now, because it's so Look at that. Now, because it's so small, they have the mini DisplayPort small, they have the mini DisplayPort small, they have the mini DisplayPort connections here. But, we're not going connections here. But, we're not going connections here. But, we're not going to be using those. to be using those. to be using those. >> It looks like a laptop battery. >> It looks like a laptop battery. >> It looks like a laptop battery. >> What's special about the SFF? >> What's special about the SFF? >> What's special about the SFF? >> If I'm not mistaken, this one gives you >> If I'm not mistaken, this one gives you >> If I'm not mistaken, this one gives you a lower profile bracket, but I know that a lower profile bracket, but I know that a lower profile bracket, but I know that length of the card itself is really length of the card itself is really length of the card itself is really small. small. small. >> One more thing about the SFF, this card >> One more thing about the SFF, this card >> One more thing about the SFF, this card is powered by the bus. So, it's going to is powered by the bus. So, it's going to is powered by the bus. So, it's going to be 70 watts. This is not like the full be 70 watts. This is not like the full be 70 watts. This is not like the full RTX Pro 4000, which Micro Center also RTX Pro 4000, which Micro Center also RTX Pro 4000, which Micro Center also carries and I bought it here before. I carries and I bought it here before. I carries and I bought it here before. I have a video on that. It has the same have a video on that. It has the same have a video on that. It has the same amount of CUDA cores, the same amount of amount of CUDA cores, the same amount of amount of CUDA cores, the same amount of VRAM, 24 gigs, which is actually the VRAM, 24 gigs, which is actually the VRAM, 24 gigs, which is actually the smallest GPU you can get with 24 gigs.

smallest GPU you can get with 24 gigs. smallest GPU you can get with 24 gigs. But, it does have less power, so it's But, it does have less power, so it's But, it does have less power, so it's not going to be as fast as the full-size not going to be as fast as the full-size not going to be as fast as the full-size Pro 4000. So, you're going to have your Pro 4000. So, you're going to have your Pro 4000. So, you're going to have your SFF here, you're going to have your SFF here, you're going to have your SFF here, you're going to have your motherboard here, and the power supply. motherboard here, and the power supply. motherboard here, and the power supply. So, we need all those pieces. We need a So, we need all those pieces. We need a So, we need all those pieces. We need a tiny motherboard, so let's go pick that tiny motherboard, so let's go pick that tiny motherboard, so let's go pick that out. out. out. >> we want to get an ITX motherboard. So, >> we want to get an ITX motherboard. So, >> we want to get an ITX motherboard. So, [music] I have these two boards that [music] I have these two boards that [music] I have these two boards that come to mind for you. The MSI come to mind for you. The MSI come to mind for you. The MSI >> MSI >> MSI >> MSI >> and also ASUS. They're both B850s for >> and also ASUS. They're both B850s for >> and also ASUS. They're both B850s for Ryzen AM5 socket. Ryzen AM5 socket. Ryzen AM5 socket. >> Look at this, the price is very >> Look at this, the price is very >> Look at this, the price is very different. 289 versus 359. Let's do the different. 289 versus 359. Let's do the different. 289 versus 359. Let's do the cheaper one. cheaper one. cheaper one. >> Yeah, let's save some money. Why not? >> Yeah, let's save some money. Why not? >> Yeah, let's save some money. Why not? I'm an MSI guy. I'm an MSI guy. I'm an MSI guy. >> Let's do it. Cuz we're going to need >> Let's do it. Cuz we're going to need >> Let's do it. Cuz we're going to need some of that money for the next things some of that money for the next things some of that money for the next things we're going to get, which is CPU, RAM. we're going to get, which is CPU, RAM. we're going to get, which is CPU, RAM. >> Especially the RAM. So, I guess we can >> Especially the RAM. So, I guess we can >> Especially the RAM. So, I guess we can go ahead and address the power supply go ahead and address the power supply go ahead and address the power supply question. question. question. >> You know what, then? We're not going to >> You know what, then? We're not going to >> You know what, then? We're not going to need [music] a power supply, actually. I need [music] a power supply, actually. I need [music] a power supply, actually. I have a few power supplies from our have a few power supplies from our have a few power supplies from our previous shopping trips, so we'll go previous shopping trips, so we'll go previous shopping trips, so we'll go into that a little bit later. into that a little bit later. into that a little bit later. >> All right, then we're good. >> All right, then we're good. >> All right, then we're good. >> We're good [laughter] here. >> We're good [laughter] here. >> We're good [laughter] here. >> Yeah. But, this is a nice power supply >> Yeah. But, this is a nice power supply >> Yeah. But, this is a nice power supply wall. We even have um bigger 3000 watt wall. We even have um bigger 3000 watt wall. We even have um bigger 3000 watt Corsair [music] units now in the back.

Corsair [music] units now in the back. Corsair [music] units now in the back. So, if you want to power four Pro 6000s, So, if you want to power four Pro 6000s, So, if you want to power four Pro 6000s, we have what you need. As for the we have what you need. As for the we have what you need. As for the memory, 32 gigs should be enough for you memory, 32 gigs should be enough for you memory, 32 gigs should be enough for you on this. on this. on this. >> I mean, the more the merrier, but what >> I mean, the more the merrier, but what >> I mean, the more the merrier, but what can we fit into the budget here? Do you can we fit into the budget here? Do you can we fit into the budget here? Do you have any bundles or deals right now? have any bundles or deals right now? have any bundles or deals right now? >> You know, it's funny you mention that. I >> You know, it's funny you mention that. I >> You know, it's funny you mention that. I told you this too in the last video, we told you this too in the last video, we told you this too in the last video, we had a bundle with the 64 gigs of memory. had a bundle with the 64 gigs of memory. had a bundle with the 64 gigs of memory. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That lasted only that weekend before it >> That lasted only that weekend before it >> That lasted only that weekend before it sold out completely. So, right now the sold out completely. So, right now the sold out completely. So, right now the only bundles I have are with 32 only bundles I have are with 32 only bundles I have are with 32 gigabytes and they're only [music] ATX. gigabytes and they're only [music] ATX. gigabytes and they're only [music] ATX. >> Okay, that's not going to work for us. >> Okay, that's not going to work for us. >> Okay, that's not going to work for us. We need a smaller board. We need a smaller board. We need a smaller board. >> But they do have bundles, and if this >> But they do have bundles, and if this >> But they do have bundles, and if this was maybe a Saturday, maybe they would was maybe a Saturday, maybe they would was maybe a Saturday, maybe they would have one. I don't know. They have it on have one. I don't know. They have it on have one. I don't know. They have it on random days. So, what can we do today random days. So, what can we do today random days. So, what can we do today for memory? for memory? for memory? >> So, Crucial 1 at 6400 CL32. >> So, Crucial 1 at 6400 CL32. >> So, Crucial 1 at 6400 CL32. >> So, how much is this kit? >> So, how much is this kit? >> So, how much is this kit? >> $369.99. >> $369.99. >> $369.99. >> What if we do 64? >> What if we do 64? >> What if we do 64? >> You'd have to get the two sticks of 32, >> You'd have to get the two sticks of 32, >> You'd have to get the two sticks of 32, which is doable. which is doable. which is doable. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> $879. >> $879. >> $879. >> Oh, no. Stick with 32. >> Oh, no. Stick with 32. >> Oh, no. Stick with 32. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because what happens is you load your >> Because what happens is you load your >> Because what happens is you load your models models models via system RAM, and then they go into via system RAM, and then they go into via system RAM, and then they go into the VRAM of the GPU, [music] the VRAM of the GPU, [music] the VRAM of the GPU, [music] and you usually want them to be about and you usually want them to be about and you usually want them to be about the same or a little bit more for the the same or a little bit more for the the same or a little bit more for the system RAM just to have your operating system RAM just to have your operating system RAM just to have your operating system running.

system running. system running. >> We've done some shopping here before, >> We've done some shopping here before, >> We've done some shopping here before, and I got my trusty little backpack with and I got my trusty little backpack with and I got my trusty little backpack with some stuff. some stuff. some stuff. >> There's the SSD. The other one is this >> There's the SSD. The other one is this >> There's the SSD. The other one is this processor. processor. processor. >> Uh I don't know if the camera [music] >> Uh I don't know if the camera [music] >> Uh I don't know if the camera [music] will capture the name on that and see will capture the name on that and see will capture the name on that and see the packaging. Our very observant the packaging. Our very observant the packaging. Our very observant viewers will note that this [music] is a viewers will note that this [music] is a viewers will note that this [music] is a Ryzen 7 box with a Ryzen 9 inside of it. Ryzen 7 box with a Ryzen 9 inside of it. Ryzen 7 box with a Ryzen 9 inside of it. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> Oops. So, this is the 9900X. You know, >> Oops. So, this is the 9900X. You know, >> Oops. So, this is the 9900X. You know, it's a pretty substantial processor. it's a pretty substantial processor. it's a pretty substantial processor. It's beefy. It's beefy. It's beefy. >> But if we want to keep this thing from >> But if we want to keep this thing from >> But if we want to keep this thing from throttling as much as possible, and throttling as much as possible, and throttling as much as possible, and because I don't think you'll really because I don't think you'll really because I don't think you'll really benefit as much from the extra cores, we benefit as much from the extra cores, we benefit as much from the extra cores, we could do a Ryzen 5. Like a 9600X or could do a Ryzen 5. Like a 9600X or could do a Ryzen 5. Like a 9600X or 7600X. 7600X. 7600X. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> 9600X being the more power efficient >> 9600X being the more power efficient >> 9600X being the more power efficient one, so even easier to to cool. one, so even easier to to cool. one, so even easier to to cool. >> And we've used a couple 9600Xs before, >> And we've used a couple 9600Xs before, >> And we've used a couple 9600Xs before, especially for my bench machines. So, especially for my bench machines. So, especially for my bench machines. So, let's do that. 9600 works pretty well, let's do that. 9600 works pretty well, let's do that. 9600 works pretty well, and it's going to be a lower price than and it's going to be a lower price than and it's going to be a lower price than this, right? this, right? this, right? >> Yes, yes. Oh, for sure. >> Yes, yes. Oh, for sure. >> Yes, yes. Oh, for sure. >> Well, not really, because this is mine >> Well, not really, because this is mine >> Well, not really, because this is mine already. already. already. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> What about the cooler? I bought this one >> What about the cooler? I bought this one >> What about the cooler? I bought this one after I showed it to you, you didn't after I showed it to you, you didn't after I showed it to you, you didn't like it. like it. like it. >> So, here's the thing. Noctua does a >> So, here's the thing. Noctua does a >> So, here's the thing. Noctua does a really good job with making a cooler. I really good job with making a cooler. I really good job with making a cooler. I am not going to take that away from am not going to take that away from am not going to take that away from them. However, in terms of where it them. However, in terms of where it them. However, in terms of where it performs [music] performs [music] performs [music] and for what you're paying, there are and for what you're paying, there are and for what you're paying, there are some other interesting options out there some other interesting options out there some other interesting options out there like Thermalright.

like Thermalright. like Thermalright. >> Interesting. All right, let's see what >> Interesting. All right, let's see what >> Interesting. All right, let's see what you got. you got. you got. >> You're going to want to check this one >> You're going to want to check this one >> You're going to want to check this one out. out. out. >> Oh, 36. >> Oh, 36. >> Oh, 36. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> This is even smaller. What about a case >> This is even smaller. What about a case >> This is even smaller. What about a case fan? fan? fan? >> Oh, actually, you know what? Then the >> Oh, actually, you know what? Then the >> Oh, actually, you know what? Then the Noctua fan does come in handy. Noctua fan does come in handy. Noctua fan does come in handy. >> You do need a 120 mm and an 80 mm. >> You do need a 120 mm and an 80 mm. >> You do need a 120 mm and an 80 mm. >> So, the Noctua fan became useful again. >> So, the Noctua fan became useful again. >> So, the Noctua fan became useful again. Here's our processor. Look, and that Here's our processor. Look, and that Here's our processor. Look, and that one's actually the correct processor in one's actually the correct processor in one's actually the correct processor in there, too. there, too. there, too. >> Yes. Now, >> Yes. Now, >> Yes. Now, our 80 mm fan from Kingwin. our 80 mm fan from Kingwin. our 80 mm fan from Kingwin. >> Five bucks. Well, six bucks. That's >> Five bucks. Well, six bucks. That's >> Five bucks. Well, six bucks. That's pretty good. pretty good. pretty good. >> Guys, I'm doing everything to not have >> Guys, I'm doing everything to not have >> Guys, I'm doing everything to not have to do push-ups today. to do push-ups today. to do push-ups today. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Today's back day, not chest. >> Today's back day, not chest. >> Today's back day, not chest. >> Relax, Dan. There's no push-ups today, >> Relax, Dan. There's no push-ups today, >> Relax, Dan. There's no push-ups today, okay? We're we're good on that. Unless okay? We're we're good on that. Unless okay? We're we're good on that. Unless you really want to. you really want to. you really want to. >> I never >> I never >> I never >> know with you. But, um >> know with you. But, um >> know with you. But, um I got to say, what do I have to say? what do I have to say? At which point do you stop taking At which point do you stop taking At which point do you stop taking responsibility for the size of the case responsibility for the size of the case responsibility for the size of the case and what's going to fit into it? and what's going to fit into it? and what's going to fit into it? >> What What do you mean by this question? >> What What do you mean by this question? >> What What do you mean by this question? >> There might be some push-ups involved >> There might be some push-ups involved >> There might be some push-ups involved later on, um later on, um later on, um if this doesn't fit into the case that if this doesn't fit into the case that if this doesn't fit into the case that we're going to put this into.

we're going to put this into. we're going to put this into. >> I mean, that it it definitely fits in >> I mean, that it it definitely fits in >> I mean, that it it definitely fits in the case the case the case on the counter. on the counter. on the counter. >> Um >> Um >> Um okay. Okay, we'll go with that for now. okay. Okay, we'll go with that for now. okay. Okay, we'll go with that for now. All right. All right. All right. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Is he going to make me do push-ups >> Is he going to make me do push-ups >> Is he going to make me do push-ups anyway? anyway? anyway? >> I don't know. We'll we'll we'll see. >> I don't know. We'll we'll we'll see. >> I don't know. We'll we'll we'll see. Now, Now, Now, this is going to be more than a home this is going to be more than a home this is going to be more than a home media machine. It could do media, but media machine. It could do media, but media machine. It could do media, but let's see if this fits into a backpack. let's see if this fits into a backpack. let's see if this fits into a backpack. >> Oh, yes. >> Oh, yes. >> Oh, yes. >> Uh well, let's go into this backpack >> Uh well, let's go into this backpack >> Uh well, let's go into this backpack section. You know what? This thing will section. You know what? This thing will section. You know what? This thing will fit pretty much into any of these fit pretty much into any of these fit pretty much into any of these backpacks. And uh I've been eyeballing a backpacks. And uh I've been eyeballing a backpacks. And uh I've been eyeballing a new backpack. You know how old my new backpack. You know how old my new backpack. You know how old my backpack is? It's like 14 years old. backpack is? It's like 14 years old. backpack is? It's like 14 years old. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> Yeah. Like everybody's got a shiny new >> Yeah. Like everybody's got a shiny new >> Yeah. Like everybody's got a shiny new backpack. I feel like I need one. But, backpack. I feel like I need one. But, backpack. I feel like I need one. But, look at this fit. look at this fit. look at this fit. >> That's fun. >> That's fun. >> That's fun. >> It's nice, right? >> It's nice, right? >> It's nice, right? >> That will easily be a personal item on a >> That will easily be a personal item on a >> That will easily be a personal item on a plane. plane. plane. >> An AI workstation inside here. >> An AI workstation inside here. >> An AI workstation inside here. >> And don't forget, technically, he could >> And don't forget, technically, he could >> And don't forget, technically, he could put that Ryzen 9 in there if he wants. put that Ryzen 9 in there if he wants. put that Ryzen 9 in there if he wants. >> You might even be able to fit it in like >> You might even be able to fit it in like >> You might even be able to fit it in like a laptop case. Maybe like a little bit a laptop case. Maybe like a little bit a laptop case. Maybe like a little bit thicker, but still [laughter] thicker, but still [laughter] thicker, but still [laughter] >> Yes. Wow. >> Yes. Wow. >> Yes. Wow. We can do that. Now, I just need the We can do that. Now, I just need the We can do that. Now, I just need the keyboard, the monitor, the mouse. Oh, keyboard, the monitor, the mouse. Oh, keyboard, the monitor, the mouse. Oh, okay. Maybe not.

okay. Maybe not. okay. Maybe not. Yeah, all those things. I just want to Yeah, all those things. I just want to Yeah, all those things. I just want to stop by the DGX Spark Station. stop by the DGX Spark Station. stop by the DGX Spark Station. Now, this is not as small as another Now, this is not as small as another Now, this is not as small as another portable AI little supercomputer, but I portable AI little supercomputer, but I portable AI little supercomputer, but I wonder how it'll do in performance wonder how it'll do in performance wonder how it'll do in performance comparisons against the Spark. Make one comparisons against the Spark. Make one comparisons against the Spark. Make one more stop. [music] Now, if you look at it from the side, Now, if you look at it from the side, it's kind of the same size as the Mac it's kind of the same size as the Mac it's kind of the same size as the Mac Studio, right? But, yeah, it's about Studio, right? But, yeah, it's about Studio, right? But, yeah, it's about twice the size if you go up. Yeah, we're twice the size if you go up. Yeah, we're twice the size if you go up. Yeah, we're getting close. We're getting close. getting close. We're getting close. getting close. We're getting close. >> Now, Micro Center is about to carry this >> Now, Micro Center is about to carry this >> Now, Micro Center is about to carry this AMD Ryzen AI Halo developer platform. AMD Ryzen AI Halo developer platform. AMD Ryzen AI Halo developer platform. Hold that. Hold that. Hold that. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> It's quite the mouthful. >> It's quite the mouthful. >> It's quite the mouthful. >> It's this AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395. >> It's this AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395. >> It's this AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395. Hey, I said it. There we go. Hey, I said it. There we go. Hey, I said it. There we go. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> It's got 128 gigs of memory on board. >> It's got 128 gigs of memory on board. >> It's got 128 gigs of memory on board. I've done a few reviews of this one, but I've done a few reviews of this one, but I've done a few reviews of this one, but um maybe I'll get this one also. They um maybe I'll get this one also. They um maybe I'll get this one also. They come in a Windows version, and they come come in a Windows version, and they come come in a Windows version, and they come in a Linux version already in a Linux version already in a Linux version already pre-installed. So, these are coming very pre-installed. So, these are coming very pre-installed. So, these are coming very soon to Micro Center. So, I think we're soon to Micro Center. So, I think we're soon to Micro Center. So, I think we're all good, right? all good, right? all good, right? >> Yeah, I think that's mission >> Yeah, I think that's mission >> Yeah, I think that's mission accomplished.

accomplished. accomplished. >> Mission accomplished. >> Mission accomplished. >> Mission accomplished. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now, I might have a little surprise for >> Now, I might have a little surprise for >> Now, I might have a little surprise for you. Are you going to come help me build you. Are you going to come help me build you. Are you going to come help me build this thing or what? this thing or what? this thing or what? >> Yeah, I'll help you build it. I'm a >> Yeah, I'll help you build it. I'm a >> Yeah, I'll help you build it. I'm a little nervous when you say surprises, little nervous when you say surprises, little nervous when you say surprises, cuz last time you gave me a surprise, cuz last time you gave me a surprise, cuz last time you gave me a surprise, you handed me something and took it you handed me something and took it you handed me something and took it back. back. back. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Well, I apologize for that. That was uh >> Well, I apologize for that. That was uh >> Well, I apologize for that. That was uh you know. you know. you know. >> It was a really good gift. Thank you. >> It was a really good gift. Thank you. >> It was a really good gift. Thank you. >> All right. Next, we're going to take >> All right. Next, we're going to take >> All right. Next, we're going to take this uh build it, [music] and this uh build it, [music] and this uh build it, [music] and we'll be back with some testing. Cool. we'll be back with some testing. Cool. we'll be back with some testing. Cool. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Let's do it. Let's do it. >> Let's do it. Let's do it. >> Let's do it. Let's do it. >> You have a riser cable, right? >> You have a riser cable, right? >> You have a riser cable, right? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Hey, and you know what? One better. Open >> Hey, and you know what? One better. Open >> Hey, and you know what? One better. Open box. 60 bucks, and we still get the box. 60 bucks, and we still get the box. 60 bucks, and we still get the riser cable. Oh, [laughter] it's still riser cable. Oh, [laughter] it's still riser cable. Oh, [laughter] it's still going to be a going to be a going to be a >> sure the riser cable is in there, >> sure the riser cable is in there, >> sure the riser cable is in there, though? though? though? >> We will find out right now after the >> We will find out right now after the >> We will find out right now after the break. Don't worry. break. Don't worry. break. Don't worry. Uh yeah, there we go. White riser cable. Uh yeah, there we go. White riser cable. Uh yeah, there we go. White riser cable. >> Oh, nice. Okay, perfect. >> Oh, nice. Okay, perfect. >> Oh, nice. Okay, perfect. >> Oh my god, I remember how much I hate >> Oh my god, I remember how much I hate >> Oh my god, I remember how much I hate these boxes. these boxes. these boxes. There we go. There we go. There we go. >> What else do we forget to do? >> What else do we forget to do? >> What else do we forget to do? >> Well, look, as far as the ML09, we >> Well, look, as far as the ML09, we >> Well, look, as far as the ML09, we forgot nothing. forgot nothing. forgot nothing. >> The whole thing fits in a little >> The whole thing fits in a little >> The whole thing fits in a little shopping basket this time around, not a shopping basket this time around, not a shopping basket this time around, not a giant cart. giant cart. giant cart. I asked Dan to come over here and help I asked Dan to come over here and help I asked Dan to come over here and help build this thing. This is the new space build this thing. This is the new space build this thing. This is the new space by the way. Where's that case? That's by the way. Where's that case? That's by the way. Where's that case? That's the case that Dan thinks we're putting the case that Dan thinks we're putting the case that Dan thinks we're putting this into, but I have a different case.

this into, but I have a different case. this into, but I have a different case. All right, so this is actually the case All right, so this is actually the case All right, so this is actually the case that we're going to be using today. that we're going to be using today. that we're going to be using today. >> Alex, what are you doing to me? >> Alex, what are you doing to me? >> Alex, what are you doing to me? [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> This is a Velkase Velka 3. >> This is a Velkase Velka 3. >> This is a Velkase Velka 3. >> Oh my god, that almost looks like a >> Oh my god, that almost looks like a >> Oh my god, that almost looks like a power supply. power supply. power supply. >> Remember that thing I said about the >> Remember that thing I said about the >> Remember that thing I said about the power supply? This is why I got this power supply? This is why I got this power supply? This is why I got this Flex Guru 650 W FSP. Flex Guru 650 W FSP. Flex Guru 650 W FSP. >> You have the manual for this guy, right? >> You have the manual for this guy, right? >> You have the manual for this guy, right? >> Maybe, it's in the box. >> Maybe, it's in the box. >> Maybe, it's in the box. >> Oh, there we go. >> Oh, there we go. >> Oh, there we go. >> Screws in the box. Here we go, but no >> Screws in the box. Here we go, but no >> Screws in the box. Here we go, but no manual. Sorry, you're going to have to manual. Sorry, you're going to have to manual. Sorry, you're going to have to figure it out. figure it out. figure it out. >> that [laughter] is totally fine. >> that [laughter] is totally fine. >> that [laughter] is totally fine. >> All right, Dan, get to work. >> All right, Dan, get to work. >> All right, Dan, get to work. >> All right, the best thing and the >> All right, the best thing and the >> All right, the best thing and the smartest thing you can do when it comes smartest thing you can do when it comes smartest thing you can do when it comes to a new case is look it up. I use the to a new case is look it up. I use the to a new case is look it up. I use the LTT screwdriver, and you have one too, LTT screwdriver, and you have one too, LTT screwdriver, and you have one too, right Alex? right Alex? right Alex? >> This is mine. Oh my god. So, yeah. So, yeah. >> They make them that small? >> They make them that small? >> They make them that small? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> That's what uh somebody said. >> That's what uh somebody said. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Don't leave that comment. >> So. >> So. >> We're trying to angle in the wrong spot. >> We're trying to angle in the wrong spot. >> We're trying to angle in the wrong spot. >> No, no, no, trust me, it's it's fine, >> No, no, no, trust me, it's it's fine, >> No, no, no, trust me, it's it's fine, it's fine. There we go. it's fine. There we go. it's fine. There we go. >> No satisfying pop. Nice job. >> No satisfying pop. Nice job. >> No satisfying pop. Nice job. >> I expected to bend some pins today.

>> I expected to bend some pins today. >> I expected to bend some pins today. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Does this thing have a manual? >> Does this thing have a manual? >> Does this thing have a manual? >> I would have gotten it out for you. >> I would have gotten it out for you. >> I would have gotten it out for you. >> Well, actually I'm going to go and put >> Well, actually I'm going to go and put >> Well, actually I'm going to go and put the SSD in. the SSD in. the SSD in. >> Do you need an instruction manual for >> Do you need an instruction manual for >> Do you need an instruction manual for this? this? this? >> Actually, I might. Surprise, surprise, >> Actually, I might. Surprise, surprise, >> Actually, I might. Surprise, surprise, Alex, we don't get a manual, but guess Alex, we don't get a manual, but guess Alex, we don't get a manual, but guess what we do get. what we do get. what we do get. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Stickers. >> Stickers. >> Stickers. >> I'll take responsibility for this one. >> I'll take responsibility for this one. >> I'll take responsibility for this one. >> There we go. Oh, look, that worked. >> There we go. Oh, look, that worked. >> There we go. Oh, look, that worked. There we go. How many people actually There we go. How many people actually There we go. How many people actually use electronic uh screwdrivers in your use electronic uh screwdrivers in your use electronic uh screwdrivers in your uh community for their builds? Like I uh community for their builds? Like I uh community for their builds? Like I honestly wonder. honestly wonder. honestly wonder. I'm going to look out for comments on I'm going to look out for comments on I'm going to look out for comments on that. that. that. Uh Uh Uh There's going to be a comment for that. There's going to be a comment for that. There's going to be a comment for that. >> Please. Please. >> Please. Please. >> Please. Please. >> Perfect. We have our SSD in, Alex. >> Perfect. We have our SSD in, Alex. >> Perfect. We have our SSD in, Alex. >> Installed, reinstalled, [music] nuts. >> Installed, reinstalled, [music] nuts. >> Installed, reinstalled, [music] nuts. >> And before someone says it, I know we >> And before someone says it, I know we >> And before someone says it, I know we need thermal paste. I just want to make need thermal paste. I just want to make need thermal paste. I just want to make sure this properly sits over the sure this properly sits over the sure this properly sits over the processor before we do that, and it does processor before we do that, and it does processor before we do that, and it does smiley face. Oh my god. Oh my god. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> That's the worst smiley face I've ever >> That's the worst smiley face I've ever >> That's the worst smiley face I've ever seen. seen. seen. >> If you look like this when you smile, >> If you look like this when you smile, >> If you look like this when you smile, you should probably get help. you should probably get help. you should probably get help. >> Go see a doctor. But also, I shouldn't >> Go see a doctor. But also, I shouldn't >> Go see a doctor. But also, I shouldn't talk because I kind of punted on to you. talk because I kind of punted on to you. talk because I kind of punted on to you. So, um you should all make the comments.

So, um you should all make the comments. So, um you should all make the comments. >> And believe it or not, the hard part is >> And believe it or not, the hard part is >> And believe it or not, the hard part is out of the way. Actually, the real hard out of the way. Actually, the real hard out of the way. Actually, the real hard part's going to be screwing this thing part's going to be screwing this thing part's going to be screwing this thing in. in. in. All right, I brought my drill cuz we're All right, I brought my drill cuz we're All right, I brought my drill cuz we're going to need it for the going to need it for the going to need it for the top, right? top, right? top, right? >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> Yeah, of course. >> Yeah, of course. >> Yeah, of course. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I guess I I tried to read the manual. I >> I guess I I tried to read the manual. I >> I guess I I tried to read the manual. I just couldn't. just couldn't. just couldn't. >> I'm not sure when to stop though. >> I'm not sure when to stop though. >> I'm not sure when to stop though. >> It feels like if you twist it one more >> It feels like if you twist it one more >> It feels like if you twist it one more time, it's not going to be a good time, it's not going to be a good time, it's not going to be a good result. No pressure though. result. No pressure though. result. No pressure though. >> Oh. Anybody that goes on dates, don't >> Oh. Anybody that goes on dates, don't >> Oh. Anybody that goes on dates, don't take that [snorts] advice. take that [snorts] advice. take that [snorts] advice. >> Oh my god. I'm going to drink my water. Let's actually get the the power supply Let's actually get the the power supply in because that's going to be like the in because that's going to be like the in because that's going to be like the more annoying thing later. more annoying thing later. more annoying thing later. >> Did I not say that was going to be a >> Did I not say that was going to be a >> Did I not say that was going to be a hard part? hard part? hard part? >> Yes. >> All right. Now the piece de resistance. >> All right. Now the piece de resistance. Aha, 4,000. Aha, 4,000. Aha, 4,000. >> We actually might do the GPU last. >> We actually might do the GPU last. >> We actually might do the GPU last. >> Please fit. Please fit. >> Please fit. Please fit. >> Please fit. Please fit. >> It has to. It literally has to. >> It has to. It literally has to. >> It has to. It literally has to. >> Yeah? Oh. Hey, you got it. >> Yeah? Oh. Hey, you got it. >> Yeah? Oh. Hey, you got it. >> Look at that. Snapped in. See, he >> Look at that. Snapped in. See, he >> Look at that. Snapped in. See, he doubted me. doubted me. doubted me. Do something up here. Do something up here. Do something up here. >> So, do we need to take the motherboard >> So, do we need to take the motherboard >> So, do we need to take the motherboard out now? out now? out now? >> Yeah. Sometimes you just take one step >> Yeah. Sometimes you just take one step >> Yeah. Sometimes you just take one step back to take three steps forward.

Oh. Oh. >> We need to take apart more of it, huh? >> We need to take apart more of it, huh? >> We need to take apart more of it, huh? >> We're taking two steps back to take uh >> We're taking two steps back to take uh >> We're taking two steps back to take uh three steps [music] forward. All right. three steps [music] forward. All right. three steps [music] forward. All right. Is this stressing you out yet, Alex? Is this stressing you out yet, Alex? Is this stressing you out yet, Alex? >> I am totally stressed out. Like this is >> I am totally stressed out. Like this is >> I am totally stressed out. Like this is the hardest part. the hardest part. the hardest part. >> I'm going to take out the power supply >> I'm going to take out the power supply >> I'm going to take out the power supply for now so that we have extra uh height for now so that we have extra uh height for now so that we have extra uh height there. >> This is like that screwing in a light >> This is like that screwing in a light bulb joke. bulb joke. bulb joke. >> My middle name's Alex. Takes two Alexes >> My middle name's Alex. Takes two Alexes >> My middle name's Alex. Takes two Alexes to build a to build a to build a an SFX rig. an SFX rig. an SFX rig. >> Hey, is it in? >> Hey, is it in? >> Hey, is it in? >> It is. Four steps back to take three >> It is. Four steps back to take three >> It is. Four steps back to take three steps forward. steps forward. steps forward. >> That's what I'm saying. It's not going >> That's what I'm saying. It's not going >> That's what I'm saying. It's not going to reach. to reach. to reach. >> If we do the low profile bracket, since >> If we do the low profile bracket, since >> If we do the low profile bracket, since it's going to sit higher. it's going to sit higher. it's going to sit higher. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> It's time to switch brackets, Alex. >> It's time to switch brackets, Alex. >> It's time to switch brackets, Alex. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> Hey, popped out. >> Hey, popped out. >> Hey, popped out. You deserve that satisfaction. You deserve that satisfaction. You deserve that satisfaction. >> Look at that. All right, we're going to get super All right, we're going to get super janky with it. So, I'm going to keep janky with it. So, I'm going to keep janky with it. So, I'm going to keep building the rest of it. building the rest of it. building the rest of it. >> You think the issue is going to go away? >> You think the issue is going to go away? >> You think the issue is going to go away? >> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> We always have this other case by >> We always have this other case by >> We always have this other case by Jonsbo. Jonsbo. Jonsbo. >> No, it's too late. It just sucks that >> No, it's too late. It just sucks that >> No, it's too late. It just sucks that they don't include a riser with this they don't include a riser with this they don't include a riser with this case. case. case. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Do they have a riser in there? >> Do they have a riser in there? >> Do they have a riser in there? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Yes. >> You're actually going to go back, do the >> You're actually going to go back, do the >> You're actually going to go back, do the three-step back thing again? three-step back thing again? three-step back thing again? >> No, no, no. >> No, no, no. >> No, no, no. There's a There's a There's a >> Oh. >> I think it's worth trying. Yes. Okay, >> I think it's worth trying. Yes. Okay, yes, I am doing that. yes, I am doing that. yes, I am doing that. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> Boom. >> Boom. >> Boom. >> Okay, okay. Still hope. And Velka, if >> Okay, okay. Still hope. And Velka, if >> Okay, okay. Still hope. And Velka, if you're watching this, Velka's you're watching this, Velka's you're watching this, Velka's put the riser cable in the box, please. put the riser cable in the box, please. put the riser cable in the box, please. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. Hey. Hey. Hey. Oh, Oh, Oh, >> Okay, I had a B50 and I ended up leaving >> Okay, I had a B50 and I ended up leaving >> Okay, I had a B50 and I ended up leaving the bracket off of that one, too. the bracket off of that one, too. the bracket off of that one, too. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> Definitely looks better. >> Definitely looks better. >> Definitely looks better. >> Is it going to run? >> Is it going to run? >> Is it going to run? >> Oh, wait. I don't know. >> Oh, wait. I don't know. >> Oh, wait. I don't know. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Front panel connector I have to do. And >> Front panel connector I have to do. And >> Front panel connector I have to do. And this is the part that's going to be this is the part that's going to be this is the part that's going to be annoying. annoying. annoying. >> What about all this? >> What about all this? >> What about all this? >> We don't need that. >> We don't need that. >> We don't need that. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Yeah, you don't need that. >> Yeah, you don't need that. >> Yeah, you don't need that. >> Nice. Look at that. >> Nice. Look at that. >> Nice. Look at that. >> Yeah, this thing is only a little bit >> Yeah, this thing is only a little bit >> Yeah, this thing is only a little bit taller than an iPhone. taller than an iPhone. taller than an iPhone. >> I mean, that's clean. >> I mean, that's clean. >> I mean, that's clean. >> Obviously, uh we won't talk about that >> Obviously, uh we won't talk about that >> Obviously, uh we won't talk about that there. there. there. >> There is a GPU. It's just like a little >> There is a GPU. It's just like a little >> There is a GPU. It's just like a little bit bit bit >> can see it from here. Look. >> can see it from here. Look. >> can see it from here. Look. >> It's it's down there, yeah. >> It's it's down there, yeah. >> It's it's down there, yeah. >> All right, let's turn this on. >> All right, let's turn this on. >> All right, let's turn this on. >> All right, Alex. Now, you just have to >> All right, Alex. Now, you just have to >> All right, Alex. Now, you just have to push this little button here.

push this little button here. push this little button here. >> Is it supposed to light up? >> Is it supposed to light up? >> Is it supposed to light up? >> Did it light up? Hey, you want to know a >> Did it light up? Hey, you want to know a >> Did it light up? Hey, you want to know a funny one? funny one? funny one? >> Uh-oh. >> Uh-oh. >> Uh-oh. >> I was plugging this into the uh the slot >> I was plugging this into the uh the slot >> I was plugging this into the uh the slot for the LED and not for the actual power for the LED and not for the actual power for the LED and not for the actual power button. button. button. >> Yes, it's spinning. >> Yes, it's spinning. >> Yes, it's spinning. >> It's alive. >> It's alive. >> It's alive. >> It's alive. >> It's alive. >> It's alive. >> Is the monitor on, Alex? >> Is the monitor on, Alex? >> Is the monitor on, Alex? >> It's not. >> It's not. >> It's not. >> You're kidding me. >> You're kidding me. >> You're kidding me. >> Oh, there it is. >> Oh, there it is. >> Oh, there it is. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Thank you, Dan. Appreciate you coming >> Thank you, Dan. Appreciate you coming >> Thank you, Dan. Appreciate you coming over here, building this thing. I'm over here, building this thing. I'm over here, building this thing. I'm going to throw some models on there. going to throw some models on there. going to throw some models on there. We'll see how it runs. What do you We'll see how it runs. What do you We'll see how it runs. What do you think? Mac Studio is going to win or is think? Mac Studio is going to win or is think? Mac Studio is going to win or is this thing going to win? this thing going to win? this thing going to win? >> Depends. What are >> Depends. What are >> Depends. What are >> I like that. That's a good answer cuz >> I like that. That's a good answer cuz >> I like that. That's a good answer cuz yeah, it does depend on what you're yeah, it does depend on what you're yeah, it does depend on what you're doing. doing. doing. >> See, somebody commented, "Dan's not >> See, somebody commented, "Dan's not >> See, somebody commented, "Dan's not really an AI guy." So, I had to step up really an AI guy." So, I had to step up really an AI guy." So, I had to step up my game. my game. my game. >> To be determined. >> To be determined. >> To be determined. >> A lot less clutter here. >> A lot less clutter here. >> A lot less clutter here. >> It's been a week or so and I've had to >> It's been a week or so and I've had to >> It's been a week or so and I've had to take it apart because I realized that take it apart because I realized that take it apart because I realized that this wasn't working. See, this is a PCIE this wasn't working. See, this is a PCIE this wasn't working. See, this is a PCIE 4 riser and for some reason it just 4 riser and for some reason it just 4 riser and for some reason it just would not work here. So, I ordered a new would not work here. So, I ordered a new would not work here. So, I ordered a new one and it's a PCIE 5 but it's a little one and it's a PCIE 5 but it's a little one and it's a PCIE 5 but it's a little long. So, I got to get it in there. long. So, I got to get it in there. long. So, I got to get it in there. [music] Five steps back, [music] Five steps back, [music] Five steps back, four steps forward.

four steps forward. four steps forward. Who uses electric screwdrivers? [music] >> And it's more beautiful than ever. It is >> And it's more beautiful than ever. It is solid. Now, it's not as small as a Mac solid. Now, it's not as small as a Mac solid. Now, it's not as small as a Mac Studio, but it's pretty close. Never Studio, but it's pretty close. Never Studio, but it's pretty close. Never mind that. mind that. mind that. All right, I got this set up and I All right, I got this set up and I All right, I got this set up and I already had this Mac mini plugged in already had this Mac mini plugged in already had this Mac mini plugged in here. Now, the Mac mini only has 16 gigs here. Now, the Mac mini only has 16 gigs here. Now, the Mac mini only has 16 gigs of memory. So, we are doing a smaller of memory. So, we are doing a smaller of memory. So, we are doing a smaller model. This is Qwen 3 4B. [music] I'm model. This is Qwen 3 4B. [music] I'm model. This is Qwen 3 4B. [music] I'm hearing the fan speeding up on this hearing the fan speeding up on this hearing the fan speeding up on this thing and it's done. 12 seconds total thing and it's done. 12 seconds total thing and it's done. 12 seconds total for all the iterations. [music] The Mac for all the iterations. [music] The Mac for all the iterations. [music] The Mac mini is still going. I'm getting about mini is still going. I'm getting about mini is still going. I'm getting about 30 tokens per second average on the Mac 30 tokens per second average on the Mac 30 tokens per second average on the Mac mini and 103 tokens per second on this mini and 103 tokens per second on this mini and 103 tokens per second on this thing. Let's see if it can do better thing. Let's see if it can do better thing. Let's see if it can do better than the Mac Studio. Now, the Mac Studio than the Mac Studio. Now, the Mac Studio than the Mac Studio. Now, the Mac Studio is capable of much larger models cuz it is capable of much larger models cuz it is capable of much larger models cuz it can go up to 512 gigabytes of RAM. This can go up to 512 gigabytes of RAM. This can go up to 512 gigabytes of RAM. This is the M3 Ultra with 819 gigabytes per is the M3 Ultra with 819 gigabytes per is the M3 Ultra with 819 gigabytes per second of memory bandwidth. That means second of memory bandwidth. That means second of memory bandwidth. That means it's going to go really fast. Well, at it's going to go really fast. Well, at it's going to go really fast. Well, at least the decode is going to go really least the decode is going to go really least the decode is going to go really fast. That's the second part of fast. That's the second part of fast. That's the second part of inference. Now, Nvidia GPUs with CUDA inference. Now, Nvidia GPUs with CUDA inference. Now, Nvidia GPUs with CUDA running [music] are really good at running [music] are really good at running [music] are really good at prefill. That's the prompt processing prefill. That's the prompt processing prefill. That's the prompt processing part and they're really good at token part and they're really good at token part and they're really good at token generation, too. But, the memory generation, too. But, the memory generation, too. But, the memory bandwidth here is 672 gigabytes [music] bandwidth here is 672 gigabytes [music] bandwidth here is 672 gigabytes [music] per second. Not quite the same. And per second. Not quite the same. And per second. Not quite the same. And because we have a lot more room to play because we have a lot more room to play because we have a lot more room to play with here, I'm going to be running Gemma with here, I'm going to be running Gemma with here, I'm going to be running Gemma 412 billion on both of these. All right, 412 billion on both of these. All right, 412 billion on both of these. All right, we are generating text on both of these we are generating text on both of these we are generating text on both of these and it's very close, but I'm already and it's very close, but I'm already and it's very close, but I'm already seeing some differences here. M3 Ultra seeing some differences here. M3 Ultra seeing some differences here. M3 Ultra is faster at generating tokens. The

is faster at generating tokens. The is faster at generating tokens. The decode part goes at 45.4 tokens per decode part goes at 45.4 tokens per decode part goes at 45.4 tokens per second, 39.6 tokens per second for this second, 39.6 tokens per second for this second, 39.6 tokens per second for this guy, so just a little behind, but take a guy, so just a little behind, but take a guy, so just a little behind, but take a look at prompt processing. The Mac did look at prompt processing. The Mac did look at prompt processing. The Mac did prompt processing at 650 tokens per prompt processing at 650 tokens per prompt processing at 650 tokens per second and our RTX 4000 1505 second and our RTX 4000 1505 second and our RTX 4000 1505 tokens per second, more than double. So tokens per second, more than double. So tokens per second, more than double. So there's pluses and minuses to these there's pluses and minuses to these there's pluses and minuses to these kinds of machines, but now I can say kinds of machines, but now I can say kinds of machines, but now I can say that they both fit in my backpack. that they both fit in my backpack. that they both fit in my backpack. Although this one might need to wait a Although this one might need to wait a Although this one might need to wait a few minutes before I put it into my few minutes before I put it into my few minutes before I put it into my backpack. [music] It's pretty toasty. backpack. [music] It's pretty toasty. backpack. [music] It's pretty toasty. Anyway, thanks for watching. Check this Anyway, thanks for watching. Check this Anyway, thanks for watching. Check this video out next and I'll see [music] you video out next and I'll see [music] you video out next and I'll see [music] you in the next one.