IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 276 - Essential Water (For Life and AI)

Are you, by the way, do you Oh, Are you, by the way, do you Oh, >> go ahead. What? >> go ahead. What? >> go ahead. What? >> Say I was going to say, so do you plan >> Say I was going to say, so do you plan >> Say I was going to say, so do you plan on being at CES cuz I'm going to do this on being at CES cuz I'm going to do this on being at CES cuz I'm going to do this dinner thing. So, dinner thing. So, dinner thing. So, >> yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Cool. I think >> yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Cool. I think >> yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Cool. I think that'll be fun. That's good stuff, man. that'll be fun. That's good stuff, man. that'll be fun. That's good stuff, man. >> I'll send you the invite list and you >> I'll send you the invite list and you >> I'll send you the invite list and you can tell me who's who I who I can tell me who's who I who I can tell me who's who I who I inadvertently left off. inadvertently left off. inadvertently left off. >> Right. Right. Oh my gosh. >> Right. Right. Oh my gosh. >> Right. Right. Oh my gosh. >> It'll be fun. >> It'll be fun. >> It'll be fun. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Yeah, we're back. >> Yeah, we're back. >> Yeah, we're back. Welcome everybody to IoT Coffee Talk. Welcome everybody to IoT Coffee Talk. Welcome everybody to IoT Coffee Talk. Yes, exactly. I'm your cowboy DJ. Yes, exactly. I'm your cowboy DJ. Yes, exactly. I'm your cowboy DJ. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> That's kind of >> That's kind of >> That's kind of >> Yeah, exactly. I have to represent for >> Yeah, exactly. I have to represent for >> Yeah, exactly. I have to represent for all the DJs in the world, right? Yeah. all the DJs in the world, right? Yeah. all the DJs in the world, right? Yeah. Um, so it's another hot week in tech, Um, so it's another hot week in tech, Um, so it's another hot week in tech, you know, and hopefully we'll have you know, and hopefully we'll have you know, and hopefully we'll have something valuable to talk about today. something valuable to talk about today. something valuable to talk about today. Um, Um, Um, >> so where are you at, Pete? >> so where are you at, Pete? >> so where are you at, Pete? >> I'm in Massachusetts right now. I've >> I'm in Massachusetts right now. I've >> I'm in Massachusetts right now. I've been there for a couple of weeks for my been there for a couple of weeks for my been there for a couple of weeks for my annual kind of refresh. Uh, and it's annual kind of refresh. Uh, and it's annual kind of refresh. Uh, and it's been great. It's been great being out been great. It's been great being out been great. It's been great being out here and you know, uh, weather's been here and you know, uh, weather's been here and you know, uh, weather's been actually really nice. Awesome family and actually really nice. Awesome family and actually really nice. Awesome family and >> but you know, tech happens every day.

>> but you know, tech happens every day. >> but you know, tech happens every day. So, So, So, >> it does. It does. Absolutely. >> it does. It does. Absolutely. >> it does. It does. Absolutely. >> Never stops. Never stops regardless of >> Never stops. Never stops regardless of >> Never stops. Never stops regardless of where you are. where you are. where you are. >> No doubt. >> No doubt. >> No doubt. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> no doubt. >> no doubt. >> no doubt. >> I got a few interesting messages this >> I got a few interesting messages this >> I got a few interesting messages this week. I had I had two colleagues this week. I had I had two colleagues this week. I had I had two colleagues this week who emailed me and left and told me week who emailed me and left and told me week who emailed me and left and told me they were retiring from their positions. they were retiring from their positions. they were retiring from their positions. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> At two different pretty big tech >> At two different pretty big tech >> At two different pretty big tech companies. And I was like, companies. And I was like, companies. And I was like, >> interesting. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you know, the transition continues, >> So, you know, the transition continues, >> So, you know, the transition continues, I guess. I guess. I guess. >> Were they retiring on their own? >> Were they retiring on their own? >> Were they retiring on their own? I mean, they use the word retired, so I I mean, they use the word retired, so I I mean, they use the word retired, so I respect that. respect that. respect that. >> I mean, with with nothing next to do, >> I mean, with with nothing next to do, >> I mean, with with nothing next to do, which is cool, too. But I just thought which is cool, too. But I just thought which is cool, too. But I just thought that was interesting. It was like two that was interesting. It was like two that was interesting. It was like two two in a row. Two days in a row two in a row. Two days in a row two in a row. Two days in a row >> of these two folks that I've known for a >> of these two folks that I've known for a >> of these two folks that I've known for a while, and I was like, "Oh, okay. Cool." while, and I was like, "Oh, okay. Cool." while, and I was like, "Oh, okay. Cool." I guess. So, I guess. So, I guess. So, >> wow. >> wow. >> wow. >> You know, everything's in transition. >> You know, everything's in transition. >> You know, everything's in transition. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> And uh >> And uh >> And uh >> it's a small world out there. You get >> it's a small world out there. You get >> it's a small world out there. You get folks that you've worked with for a long folks that you've worked with for a long folks that you've worked with for a long time that you work with again. And right time that you work with again. And right time that you work with again. And right >> you and I worked together for a while >> you and I worked together for a while >> you and I worked together for a while there and um there and um there and um >> yeah so you know you never know what >> yeah so you know you never know what >> yeah so you know you never know what tomorrow brings I guess tomorrow brings I guess tomorrow brings I guess >> you don't Yes and but it's good to try >> you don't Yes and but it's good to try >> you don't Yes and but it's good to try to find purpose you know whatever that to find purpose you know whatever that to find purpose you know whatever that next chapter is you know when something next chapter is you know when something next chapter is you know when something like that voluntarily retire or or get like that voluntarily retire or or get like that voluntarily retire or or get retired um retired um retired um >> get retired >> get retired >> get retired >> yes >> yes >> yes >> well there's that famous scene in Borat >> well there's that famous scene in Borat >> well there's that famous scene in Borat uh that uh I don't know if you remember uh that uh I don't know if you remember uh that uh I don't know if you remember that when he asked him what do you do that when he asked him what do you do that when he asked him what do you do and he said I'm retired. With a southern and he said I'm retired. With a southern and he said I'm retired. With a southern accent, he said, "I'm retired." And then accent, he said, "I'm retired." And then accent, he said, "I'm retired." And then he said, "Oh, are you is that physical

he said, "Oh, are you is that physical he said, "Oh, are you is that physical or mental?" And or mental?" And or mental?" And >> it's nice that they let you sit at the >> it's nice that they let you sit at the >> it's nice that they let you sit at the table, table, table, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Even though you're retired. >> Even though you're retired. >> Even though you're retired. >> Oh god. >> Oh god. >> Oh god. >> And he says, "No, I'm retired." >> And he says, "No, I'm retired." >> And he says, "No, I'm retired." >> You got to believe it. >> You got to believe it. >> You got to believe it. >> Okay. So, last night I got to do >> Okay. So, last night I got to do >> Okay. So, last night I got to do something really cool. Um, it's probably something really cool. Um, it's probably something really cool. Um, it's probably not related too much to tech. Well, I not related too much to tech. Well, I not related too much to tech. Well, I guess if you consider uh high-end audio guess if you consider uh high-end audio guess if you consider uh high-end audio equipment to be tech, um equipment to be tech, um equipment to be tech, um >> always fun. >> always fun. >> always fun. >> And I All right. So, there's a there's a >> And I All right. So, there's a there's a >> And I All right. So, there's a there's a place in Ballard in Seattle called place in Ballard in Seattle called place in Ballard in Seattle called Shabuya Hi-Fi and um Shabuya Hi-Fi and um Shabuya Hi-Fi and um >> it's basically them trying to recreate >> it's basically them trying to recreate >> it's basically them trying to recreate if any of you have ever been to Tokyo if any of you have ever been to Tokyo if any of you have ever been to Tokyo and you you probably want to go do that and you you probably want to go do that and you you probably want to go do that Shabuya walkway by the metro station Shabuya walkway by the metro station Shabuya walkway by the metro station >> Akihabara or something >> Akihabara or something >> Akihabara or something >> and then you kind of walk along and then >> and then you kind of walk along and then >> and then you kind of walk along and then there's some back alleys where there's there's some back alleys where there's there's some back alleys where there's these little DJ bars and they're tiny these little DJ bars and they're tiny these little DJ bars and they're tiny and there's a disc jockey in there with and there's a disc jockey in there with and there's a disc jockey in there with turntables and then there's a bartender turntables and then there's a bartender turntables and then there's a bartender and maybe just a few seats, you know, and maybe just a few seats, you know, and maybe just a few seats, you know, and it's a cool thing and it's a very and it's a cool thing and it's a very and it's a cool thing and it's a very Japan thing cuz there's a bunch of them Japan thing cuz there's a bunch of them Japan thing cuz there's a bunch of them scattered throughout these back alleys.

scattered throughout these back alleys. scattered throughout these back alleys. And so I some I I've looked around the And so I some I I've looked around the And so I some I I've looked around the US, there's a few cities that have tried US, there's a few cities that have tried US, there's a few cities that have tried to recreate that. And so in Seattle, to recreate that. And so in Seattle, to recreate that. And so in Seattle, they've done their best to try to they've done their best to try to they've done their best to try to recreate that in in the little recreate that in in the little recreate that in in the little neighborhood of Ballard. And so it's neighborhood of Ballard. And so it's neighborhood of Ballard. And so it's called Shabuya Highfi. And um yeah, and called Shabuya Highfi. And um yeah, and called Shabuya Highfi. And um yeah, and so what they do, so what they do, so what they do, >> is it a place to enjoy the music or is >> is it a place to enjoy the music or is >> is it a place to enjoy the music or is it like ear? it like ear? it like ear? >> It's specifically to enjoy the music. >> It's specifically to enjoy the music. >> It's specifically to enjoy the music. And so you can you go on their website And so you can you go on their website And so you can you go on their website and they'll show you basically they it's and they'll show you basically they it's and they'll show you basically they it's they show you what's coming in the next they show you what's coming in the next they show you what's coming in the next month. And it's basically each night I month. And it's basically each night I month. And it's basically each night I think that it's almost like movie two think that it's almost like movie two think that it's almost like movie two showings, but it's like um there's a showings, but it's like um there's a showings, but it's like um there's a listening room where you go in there and listening room where you go in there and listening room where you go in there and it's all kind of mid-century modern it's all kind of mid-century modern it's all kind of mid-century modern retro furniture and um and it's and so retro furniture and um and it's and so retro furniture and um and it's and so they'll have, you know, it's like, oh, they'll have, you know, it's like, oh, they'll have, you know, it's like, oh, Tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. we're going Tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. we're going Tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. we're going to be playing, you know, Miles Davis, to be playing, you know, Miles Davis, to be playing, you know, Miles Davis, you know, kind of blue or something like you know, kind of blue or something like you know, kind of blue or something like that. Um and it's on vinyl. And so last that. Um and it's on vinyl. And so last that. Um and it's on vinyl. And so last night I finally got to go and it was we night I finally got to go and it was we night I finally got to go and it was we did uh random access memories album from did uh random access memories album from did uh random access memories album from Da Punk was what we Da Punk was what we Da Punk was what we >> Wow.

>> Wow. >> Wow. >> And you go and it was like >> And you go and it was like >> And you go and it was like >> very hipster scene. Sounds like very >> very hipster scene. Sounds like very >> very hipster scene. Sounds like very hipster scene. hipster scene. hipster scene. >> It was it was but they do all kinds of >> It was it was but they do all kinds of >> It was it was but they do all kinds of music you know you know I think tomorrow music you know you know I think tomorrow music you know you know I think tomorrow night's Marvin Gay you know and u stuff night's Marvin Gay you know and u stuff night's Marvin Gay you know and u stuff like that. And so when you first go into like that. And so when you first go into like that. And so when you first go into the place, it's like a a large bar and the place, it's like a a large bar and the place, it's like a a large bar and there's a DJ. I think they were playing there's a DJ. I think they were playing there's a DJ. I think they were playing a Jiraqua album that was really cool and a Jiraqua album that was really cool and a Jiraqua album that was really cool and and then they had a a beautiful looking and then they had a a beautiful looking and then they had a a beautiful looking bar. Just really I'm a fan of cool bar. Just really I'm a fan of cool bar. Just really I'm a fan of cool looking bars, you know, the lighting. looking bars, you know, the lighting. looking bars, you know, the lighting. >> So get your drinks, you're hanging out. >> So get your drinks, you're hanging out. >> So get your drinks, you're hanging out. Basically, it's like your our Basically, it's like your our Basically, it's like your our appointment for listening to Da Punk was appointment for listening to Da Punk was appointment for listening to Da Punk was at 9:00 p.m. You get there and they go, at 9:00 p.m. You get there and they go, at 9:00 p.m. You get there and they go, "Okay, well, we're gonna we'll take you "Okay, well, we're gonna we'll take you "Okay, well, we're gonna we'll take you into the room in about 25 minutes." So, into the room in about 25 minutes." So, into the room in about 25 minutes." So, obviously they want you to get a drink obviously they want you to get a drink obviously they want you to get a drink and sit down, you know. Um, so anyway, and sit down, you know. Um, so anyway, and sit down, you know. Um, so anyway, you're doing that, there's a Bane DJ and you're doing that, there's a Bane DJ and you're doing that, there's a Bane DJ and there's all these people in the room and there's all these people in the room and there's all these people in the room and then and then when they say, "Okay, now then and then when they say, "Okay, now then and then when they say, "Okay, now it's time for your deal." You kind of go it's time for your deal." You kind of go it's time for your deal." You kind of go down this hallway and line up and then down this hallway and line up and then down this hallway and line up and then they take you into one of the I think they take you into one of the I think they take you into one of the I think they have a couple of listening rooms they have a couple of listening rooms they have a couple of listening rooms and um you have to take off your shoes.

and um you have to take off your shoes. and um you have to take off your shoes. >> How many people in each listening room? >> How many people in each listening room? >> How many people in each listening room? >> I thought there was too many. It looked >> I thought there was too many. It looked >> I thought there was too many. It looked like there may have been 15 or 20 people like there may have been 15 or 20 people like there may have been 15 or 20 people in the listening room. I I didn't expect in the listening room. I I didn't expect in the listening room. I I didn't expect it to be that many people. I thought it it to be that many people. I thought it it to be that many people. I thought it would have been more intimate. Um you would have been more intimate. Um you would have been more intimate. Um you know, obviously all the acoustics, you know, obviously all the acoustics, you know, obviously all the acoustics, you know, everything's deadened and know, everything's deadened and know, everything's deadened and everything for sound. And then so they everything for sound. And then so they everything for sound. And then so they take you in there and you you you have take you in there and you you you have take you in there and you you you have to take off your shoes. So very to take off your shoes. So very to take off your shoes. So very Japanese. Um they uh you couldn't bring Japanese. Um they uh you couldn't bring Japanese. Um they uh you couldn't bring your drink in with you, which was kind your drink in with you, which was kind your drink in with you, which was kind of a bummer. Uh yeah, I know. I know. Um of a bummer. Uh yeah, I know. I know. Um of a bummer. Uh yeah, I know. I know. Um and so yeah, you know, you find your and so yeah, you know, you find your and so yeah, you know, you find your place and sit down and then a guy comes place and sit down and then a guy comes place and sit down and then a guy comes up and he's demonstrates the audio up and he's demonstrates the audio up and he's demonstrates the audio equipment. And so it was a, you know, equipment. And so it was a, you know, equipment. And so it was a, you know, techniques, you know, SL, you know, 1200 techniques, you know, SL, you know, 1200 techniques, you know, SL, you know, 1200 MK2 turntable wiki wiki. Um, and then uh MK2 turntable wiki wiki. Um, and then uh MK2 turntable wiki wiki. Um, and then uh I think a Luxman amplifier I think a Luxman amplifier I think a Luxman amplifier >> so you talked about >> so you talked about >> so you talked about >> I used to have a Luxman CD player way >> I used to have a Luxman CD player way >> I used to have a Luxman CD player way back in the day. back in the day. back in the day. >> They made great >> They made great >> They made great amazing equipment. Uh and then uh and amazing equipment. Uh and then uh and amazing equipment. Uh and then uh and then the speakers, you know, he goes, then the speakers, you know, he goes, then the speakers, you know, he goes, "Okay, here we have some monitor "Okay, here we have some monitor "Okay, here we have some monitor speakers that were made in the UK." And speakers that were made in the UK." And speakers that were made in the UK." And I forgot the brand. He's like, you know, I forgot the brand. He's like, you know, I forgot the brand. He's like, you know, you would find these like at Abbey Road you would find these like at Abbey Road you would find these like at Abbey Road Studios and stuff like that. And then he Studios and stuff like that. And then he Studios and stuff like that. And then he had some bigger ones that are clips had some bigger ones that are clips had some bigger ones that are clips horns. Oh, I was going to say clips horns. Oh, I was going to say clips horns. Oh, I was going to say clips horn. Okay.

horn. Okay. horn. Okay. >> Yeah. Clips horn. Giant ginormous >> Yeah. Clips horn. Giant ginormous >> Yeah. Clips horn. Giant ginormous big wide big wide thing. Those big big wide big wide thing. Those big big wide big wide thing. Those big cabinets. cabinets. cabinets. >> Yeah. And so he's going giving everyone >> Yeah. And so he's going giving everyone >> Yeah. And so he's going giving everyone a deep dive on this, you know, 70s audio a deep dive on this, you know, 70s audio a deep dive on this, you know, 70s audio file equipment, which I totally believe file equipment, which I totally believe file equipment, which I totally believe in. That was the golden era of audio in. That was the golden era of audio in. That was the golden era of audio equipment back then. equipment back then. equipment back then. >> Um, and then he goes, "Tonight we'll be >> Um, and then he goes, "Tonight we'll be >> Um, and then he goes, "Tonight we'll be listening to Random Access Memories." listening to Random Access Memories." listening to Random Access Memories." And so he gives you the backstory, you And so he gives you the backstory, you And so he gives you the backstory, you know, of the album, the making of the know, of the album, the making of the know, of the album, the making of the album. you know, it won like I think it album. you know, it won like I think it album. you know, it won like I think it swept the Grammys. It won at least five, swept the Grammys. It won at least five, swept the Grammys. It won at least five, you know, album of the year. Um, and all you know, album of the year. Um, and all you know, album of the year. Um, and all the people involved and everything like the people involved and everything like the people involved and everything like that. And how the two how our two that. And how the two how our two that. And how the two how our two favorite French DJs uh paid for all the favorite French DJs uh paid for all the favorite French DJs uh paid for all the production and doing the whole thing production and doing the whole thing production and doing the whole thing themselves, which paid off for them themselves, which paid off for them themselves, which paid off for them greatly since it was the number one greatly since it was the number one greatly since it was the number one album. And so I think they got to make album. And so I think they got to make album. And so I think they got to make $70 million each off of that deal. Um, $70 million each off of that deal. Um, $70 million each off of that deal. Um, which paid off. Um, but yeah, it was uh which paid off. Um, but yeah, it was uh which paid off. Um, but yeah, it was uh and I guess you know they I guess that and I guess you know they I guess that and I guess you know they I guess that you know they were so digital on that you know they were so digital on that you know they were so digital on that album they were trying to get back to album they were trying to get back to album they were trying to get back to real sounds again and you know there's a real sounds again and you know there's a real sounds again and you know there's a lot of 70s vibe to that album. Um and lot of 70s vibe to that album. Um and lot of 70s vibe to that album. Um and then yeah and then he you know and then then yeah and then he you know and then then yeah and then he you know and then you know I don't know if a lot of people you know I don't know if a lot of people you know I don't know if a lot of people know this know this know this >> you expect it to be one album and he's >> you expect it to be one album and he's >> you expect it to be one album and he's going to he plays one side and flips it going to he plays one side and flips it going to he plays one side and flips it over. Well in this case there were two over. Well in this case there were two over. Well in this case there were two albums albums albums um because there's this notion of higher um because there's this notion of higher um because there's this notion of higher quality. You know, you you've heard of quality. You know, you you've heard of quality. You know, you you've heard of things like 180 gram uh vinyl.

things like 180 gram uh vinyl. things like 180 gram uh vinyl. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. But there's also another layer, >> Okay. But there's also another layer, >> Okay. But there's also another layer, another level to go to because the audio another level to go to because the audio another level to go to because the audio quality quality quality >> the audio quality as the needle starts >> the audio quality as the needle starts >> the audio quality as the needle starts going in towards the center of the going in towards the center of the going in towards the center of the album, it degrades. It's not as good. album, it degrades. It's not as good. album, it degrades. It's not as good. So, you pay more money So, you pay more money So, you pay more money >> and so it uses more records and the >> and so it uses more records and the >> and so it uses more records and the songs are only on the outer side of it. songs are only on the outer side of it. songs are only on the outer side of it. And so, he would play fewer songs and And so, he would play fewer songs and And so, he would play fewer songs and then he'd walk over there and flip it then he'd walk over there and flip it then he'd walk over there and flip it over. So he had two records to play the over. So he had two records to play the over. So he had two records to play the whole thing and had to flip multiple whole thing and had to flip multiple whole thing and had to flip multiple times to get through it. times to get through it. times to get through it. >> Well, I thought you were going to say he >> Well, I thought you were going to say he >> Well, I thought you were going to say he was playing two albums at the same time. was playing two albums at the same time. was playing two albums at the same time. So extra. So extra. So extra. >> It's like, wow, that's like really >> It's like, wow, that's like really >> It's like, wow, that's like really complicated. complicated. complicated. >> Yeah. And so and so and then you're >> Yeah. And so and so and then you're >> Yeah. And so and so and then you're there to enjoy the music and and so there to enjoy the music and and so there to enjoy the music and and so you're kind of listening and it's a cool you're kind of listening and it's a cool you're kind of listening and it's a cool it was a cool experience. And so yes, it was a cool experience. And so yes, it was a cool experience. And so yes, >> that's cool. >> that's cool. >> that's cool. >> I think I'm looking it up. I'll have to >> I think I'm looking it up. I'll have to >> I think I'm looking it up. I'll have to put it on my list. put it on my list. put it on my list. >> Yeah, you got to check it out. It's it's >> Yeah, you got to check it out. It's it's >> Yeah, you got to check it out. It's it's unique, you know. Um unique, you know. Um unique, you know. Um >> very unique. >> very unique. >> very unique. There's a place in Seattle, too. If There's a place in Seattle, too. If There's a place in Seattle, too. If you're into uh vintage hi-fi, you you're into uh vintage hi-fi, you you're into uh vintage hi-fi, you probably know this place already.

probably know this place already. probably know this place already. Hawthorne Stereo built. Hawthorne Stereo built. Hawthorne Stereo built. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Hawthorne's like it's everything's in >> Hawthorne's like it's everything's in >> Hawthorne's like it's everything's in there. there. there. >> I think I'm going to go there tomorrow. >> I think I'm going to go there tomorrow. >> I think I'm going to go there tomorrow. I'm glad you brought that up. I'm glad you brought that up. I'm glad you brought that up. >> Like they have that that room with all >> Like they have that that room with all >> Like they have that that room with all the old the old the old >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's like my favorite >> that's like my favorite >> that's like my favorite >> stuff and the Nautilus speakers and the >> stuff and the Nautilus speakers and the >> stuff and the Nautilus speakers and the Yes. Yeah. You can spend a lot of money Yes. Yeah. You can spend a lot of money Yes. Yeah. You can spend a lot of money there. Nakamichi tape decks and uh there. Nakamichi tape decks and uh there. Nakamichi tape decks and uh >> you know >> you know >> you know >> good stuff. >> good stuff. >> good stuff. >> I was I was reading there was a battle >> I was I was reading there was a battle >> I was I was reading there was a battle going back and forth like in a Nakamichi going back and forth like in a Nakamichi going back and forth like in a Nakamichi Dragon posting last night I saw online Dragon posting last night I saw online Dragon posting last night I saw online >> and so you know there's a lot of people >> and so you know there's a lot of people >> and so you know there's a lot of people are like you know the dragon is the are like you know the dragon is the are like you know the dragon is the greatest tape deck ever made but then greatest tape deck ever made but then greatest tape deck ever made but then you'd had some other people go well you'd had some other people go well you'd had some other people go well about that I think it's the Tendberg about that I think it's the Tendberg about that I think it's the Tendberg blah blah blah tape deck. Yeah, of blah blah blah tape deck. Yeah, of blah blah blah tape deck. Yeah, of course. Of course. course. Of course. course. Of course. >> Well, the I think the dragon one of the >> Well, the I think the dragon one of the >> Well, the I think the dragon one of the outstanding features of the Nakamichi outstanding features of the Nakamichi outstanding features of the Nakamichi was it would flip the side. was it would flip the side. was it would flip the side. >> So, it would go out, it would flip the >> So, it would go out, it would flip the >> So, it would go out, it would flip the tape over and go back in. And so, this tape over and go back in. And so, this tape over and go back in. And so, this was like revolutionary idea. It's like, was like revolutionary idea. It's like, was like revolutionary idea. It's like, oh, I don't have to take the tape out of oh, I don't have to take the tape out of oh, I don't have to take the tape out of the tape deck and flip it and put it the tape deck and flip it and put it the tape deck and flip it and put it does it automatically. So, this was like does it automatically. So, this was like does it automatically. So, this was like state-of-the-art in like 1980 or 7078 or state-of-the-art in like 1980 or 7078 or state-of-the-art in like 1980 or 7078 or whatever it was.

whatever it was. whatever it was. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, but back then people were pushing >> Um, but back then people were pushing >> Um, but back then people were pushing the envelope with analog. the envelope with analog. the envelope with analog. >> Yeah. and uh just how good could you get >> Yeah. and uh just how good could you get >> Yeah. and uh just how good could you get analog? I mean, it's kind of ironic. analog? I mean, it's kind of ironic. analog? I mean, it's kind of ironic. Tape decks, you know, cassette tapes Tape decks, you know, cassette tapes Tape decks, you know, cassette tapes were always like, you know, but even were always like, you know, but even were always like, you know, but even they pushed the envelope think, well, they pushed the envelope think, well, they pushed the envelope think, well, how good can we get it? You know, how good can we get it? You know, how good can we get it? You know, >> how Yeah, cuz you're right. When you go >> how Yeah, cuz you're right. When you go >> how Yeah, cuz you're right. When you go from real to real, which is maybe the from real to real, which is maybe the from real to real, which is maybe the best sound, you know, and ultimately best sound, you know, and ultimately best sound, you know, and ultimately >> thick tape. >> thick tape. >> thick tape. >> Yeah. Thick tape, different speeds, you >> Yeah. Thick tape, different speeds, you >> Yeah. Thick tape, different speeds, you know, and so it's great. It's probably know, and so it's great. It's probably know, and so it's great. It's probably the best sound, I guess. I mean, that's the best sound, I guess. I mean, that's the best sound, I guess. I mean, that's how master things are made off of the how master things are made off of the how master things are made off of the most real most real most real >> probably the most unwieldy. I mean, if >> probably the most unwieldy. I mean, if >> probably the most unwieldy. I mean, if you were if you had a real toreal in you were if you had a real toreal in you were if you had a real toreal in your house, then you were a real real your house, then you were a real real your house, then you were a real real nut job. nut job. nut job. >> That's why I need to get one. Yes. >> That's why I need to get one. Yes. >> That's why I need to get one. Yes. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Go to Hawthorne, everyone. And >> Go to Hawthorne, everyone. And >> Go to Hawthorne, everyone. And >> Exactly. Because you're right. >> Exactly. Because you're right. >> Exactly. Because you're right. Hawthorne, you go there, they got the Hawthorne, you go there, they got the Hawthorne, you go there, they got the old turntables. Uh you might find old turntables. Uh you might find old turntables. Uh you might find yourself with a phase linear amplifier. yourself with a phase linear amplifier. yourself with a phase linear amplifier. Um or or Carver, Um or or Carver, Um or or Carver, >> Bob Carver from Carver, Massachusetts >> Bob Carver from Carver, Massachusetts >> Bob Carver from Carver, Massachusetts guy, MIT grad. And you know, genius, guy, MIT grad. And you know, genius, guy, MIT grad. And you know, genius, genius, you know, electrical engineer. I genius, you know, electrical engineer. I genius, you know, electrical engineer. I remember going to a high-end audio store remember going to a high-end audio store remember going to a high-end audio store back in the 80s back in the 80s back in the 80s >> and he had created something. It was >> and he had created something. It was >> and he had created something. It was >> the cube.

>> the cube. >> the cube. >> The cube, the holographic cube, >> The cube, the holographic cube, >> The cube, the holographic cube, >> and it was just this big. It was 200 >> and it was just this big. It was 200 >> and it was just this big. It was 200 watts per channel. The guy was a genius. watts per channel. The guy was a genius. watts per channel. The guy was a genius. And I remember reading the backstory on And I remember reading the backstory on And I remember reading the backstory on that. He actually created that in a that. He actually created that in a that. He actually created that in a coffee can. For you kids out there, you coffee can. For you kids out there, you coffee can. For you kids out there, you probably don't know what a coffee can probably don't know what a coffee can probably don't know what a coffee can is, but coffee can grounds used to come is, but coffee can grounds used to come is, but coffee can grounds used to come like in a folder, a like in a folder, a like in a folder, a >> giant coffee pod, but there's coffee in >> giant coffee pod, but there's coffee in >> giant coffee pod, but there's coffee in there, there, there, >> right? And so the fact that this genius >> right? And so the fact that this genius >> right? And so the fact that this genius built a 200 watt amplifier in a coffee built a 200 watt amplifier in a coffee built a 200 watt amplifier in a coffee can and then had to do some industrial can and then had to do some industrial can and then had to do some industrial design to create the holographic cubes, design to create the holographic cubes, design to create the holographic cubes, like it's amazing. like it's amazing. like it's amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So anyway, there's your trivia for audio >> So anyway, there's your trivia for audio >> So anyway, there's your trivia for audio from the golden age of audio in from the golden age of audio in from the golden age of audio in >> hence the pioneer shirt. >> hence the pioneer shirt. >> hence the pioneer shirt. >> Yes. I was representing. Now, a lot of >> Yes. I was representing. Now, a lot of >> Yes. I was representing. Now, a lot of people might say, "Well, Pioneer is not people might say, "Well, Pioneer is not people might say, "Well, Pioneer is not really, you know, audio quality." You really, you know, audio quality." You really, you know, audio quality." You know, it was know, it was know, it was >> click down. >> click down. >> click down. >> It was a click down. Obviously, they >> It was a click down. Obviously, they >> It was a click down. Obviously, they sold way more equipment than all the sold way more equipment than all the sold way more equipment than all the other players because they were more for other players because they were more for other players because they were more for the masses. You know, you you would see the masses. You know, you you would see the masses. You know, you you would see >> they had like the uh techniques too was >> they had like the uh techniques too was >> they had like the uh techniques too was kind of in that category. kind of in that category. kind of in that category. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, and and then they had some >> You know, and and then they had some >> You know, and and then they had some good stuff, too. Techniques and, you good stuff, too. Techniques and, you good stuff, too. Techniques and, you know, maybe Morance. Morance was kind of know, maybe Morance. Morance was kind of know, maybe Morance. Morance was kind of >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Ano Anio was in >> Yeah. Ano Anio was in >> Yeah. Ano Anio was in >> Anio was in there. Yeah. I know. It's so >> Anio was in there. Yeah. I know. It's so >> Anio was in there. Yeah. I know. It's so It's so interesting. Um because you're It's so interesting. Um because you're It's so interesting. Um because you're right. You have all these fanboys of right. You have all these fanboys of right. You have all these fanboys of different different different >> I know. No, I'm sure there's a >> I know. No, I'm sure there's a >> I know. No, I'm sure there's a subreddit. There's a subreddit for every subreddit. There's a subreddit for every subreddit. There's a subreddit for every brand and every model. brand and every model. brand and every model. >> Oh, you know it. You know it. Oh my >> Oh, you know it. You know it. Oh my >> Oh, you know it. You know it. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's it's kind gosh. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's it's kind gosh. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's it's kind of funny that way. You know, people have of funny that way. You know, people have of funny that way. You know, people have to do something to spend their time, to do something to spend their time, to do something to spend their time, right? right? right? >> Um Yes. >> Um Yes. >> Um Yes. >> They do. Especially once they get >> They do. Especially once they get >> They do. Especially once they get retired, you know. retired, you know. retired, you know. >> Yes. When they're retired, that's when >> Yes. When they're retired, that's when >> Yes. When they're retired, that's when this stuff comes out. That's when this stuff comes out. That's when this stuff comes out. That's when everyone you go to the garage and break everyone you go to the garage and break everyone you go to the garage and break out your old hi-fi gear and I'll take a out your old hi-fi gear and I'll take a out your old hi-fi gear and I'll take a trip to Hawthorne and trip to Hawthorne and trip to Hawthorne and >> Exactly. There. And there's And then >> Exactly. There. And there's And then >> Exactly. There. And there's And then there's a handful of people around the there's a handful of people around the there's a handful of people around the country and probably around the world country and probably around the world country and probably around the world who they're they're engineers. They're who they're they're engineers. They're who they're they're engineers. They're electrical engineers and they refurbish electrical engineers and they refurbish electrical engineers and they refurbish old equipment to get it back to it old equipment to get it back to it old equipment to get it back to it original state original state original state transistors, capacitors, all kinds of transistors, capacitors, all kinds of transistors, capacitors, all kinds of stuff. stuff. stuff. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> related to that, there's a subgenre now >> related to that, there's a subgenre now >> related to that, there's a subgenre now called chi-fi. If you heard of Chi-Fii, called chi-fi. If you heard of Chi-Fii, called chi-fi. If you heard of Chi-Fii, which is Chinese hi-fi, which is if you which is Chinese hi-fi, which is if you which is Chinese hi-fi, which is if you go on there, they t tend to be lower go on there, they t tend to be lower go on there, they t tend to be lower priced, but they have vacuum tubes priced, but they have vacuum tubes priced, but they have vacuum tubes integrated integrated integrated >> with digital circuits and uh and you can >> with digital circuits and uh and you can >> with digital circuits and uh and you can get preamps and amps and all kinds of get preamps and amps and all kinds of get preamps and amps and all kinds of cool stuff. Chi-fi is called is a whole cool stuff. Chi-fi is called is a whole cool stuff. Chi-fi is called is a whole wow whole subgenre of of hi-fi equipment wow whole subgenre of of hi-fi equipment wow whole subgenre of of hi-fi equipment that you get uh China that's pretty cool that you get uh China that's pretty cool that you get uh China that's pretty cool looking stuff and uh looking stuff and uh looking stuff and uh >> good quality. I mean it's not you know >> good quality. I mean it's not you know >> good quality. I mean it's not you know it's not a Macintosh level obviously it's not a Macintosh level obviously it's not a Macintosh level obviously that kind of thing but pretty good and that kind of thing but pretty good and that kind of thing but pretty good and it's a really interesting and visually it's a really interesting and visually it's a really interesting and visually it's very interesting too they visual

it's very interesting too they visual it's very interesting too they visual you can visualize the tubes and the you can visualize the tubes and the you can visualize the tubes and the >> right >> right >> right >> that aspect of it so it's partially tube >> that aspect of it so it's partially tube >> that aspect of it so it's partially tube driven driven driven >> that's so cool cuz I and I always heard >> that's so cool cuz I and I always heard >> that's so cool cuz I and I always heard that if you found yourself with a tube that if you found yourself with a tube that if you found yourself with a tube amplifier the only way you could replace amplifier the only way you could replace amplifier the only way you could replace the tubes you had to get them from the tubes you had to get them from the tubes you had to get them from Russia like Russia is like about the Russia like Russia is like about the Russia like Russia is like about the only place where they still have tubes only place where they still have tubes only place where they still have tubes people people people >> still actively using tubes >> still actively using tubes >> still actively using tubes tubes. Yes, exactly. tubes. Yes, exactly. tubes. Yes, exactly. >> You know, something's got to power their >> You know, something's got to power their >> You know, something's got to power their ICBM fleet, you know. ICBM fleet, you know. ICBM fleet, you know. >> Sure. You know, >> Sure. You know, >> Sure. You know, >> hydraulic hard drives and >> hydraulic hard drives and >> hydraulic hard drives and >> someone bought two tube patrol. >> someone bought two tube patrol. >> someone bought two tube patrol. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh disc pack patrol. >> And uh disc pack patrol. >> And uh disc pack patrol. >> Yeah. There you go. Oh my god. >> Yeah. There you go. Oh my god. >> Yeah. There you go. Oh my god. >> Those platters around. >> Those platters around. >> Those platters around. >> That's hilarious. >> That's hilarious. >> That's hilarious. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Did anything happen in tech this week >> Did anything happen in tech this week >> Did anything happen in tech this week that that that caught your attention? caught your attention? caught your attention? >> You know, let's see. Well, I mean, >> You know, let's see. Well, I mean, >> You know, let's see. Well, I mean, people are still I mean, Europe is kind people are still I mean, Europe is kind people are still I mean, Europe is kind of away, so not a lot going on there. of away, so not a lot going on there. of away, so not a lot going on there. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> everyone's sort of prepping for stuff >> everyone's sort of prepping for stuff >> everyone's sort of prepping for stuff going on. There's, you know, the things going on. There's, you know, the things going on. There's, you know, the things conference in September in Amsterdam's conference in September in Amsterdam's conference in September in Amsterdam's going to be a big going to be a big going to be a big >> blowout. So, I'm kind of looking forward >> blowout. So, I'm kind of looking forward >> blowout. So, I'm kind of looking forward to being there and uh we're going to to being there and uh we're going to to being there and uh we're going to have a bunch of our community there from have a bunch of our community there from have a bunch of our community there from Edgi Foundation. But I think there's uh Edgi Foundation. But I think there's uh Edgi Foundation. But I think there's uh I'm seeing more articles and maybe I'm I'm seeing more articles and maybe I'm I'm seeing more articles and maybe I'm biased and maybe it's the algorithm biased and maybe it's the algorithm biased and maybe it's the algorithm biasing it for me around uh of course biasing it for me around uh of course biasing it for me around uh of course the you know there's this sustainability the you know there's this sustainability the you know there's this sustainability discussion that keeps happening. What discussion that keeps happening. What discussion that keeps happening. What was it in the New York Times recently?

was it in the New York Times recently? was it in the New York Times recently? There was a whole discussion around There was a whole discussion around There was a whole discussion around power and electricity in data centers power and electricity in data centers power and electricity in data centers >> and how there's just this skyrocketing >> and how there's just this skyrocketing >> and how there's just this skyrocketing percentage of municipal power being used percentage of municipal power being used percentage of municipal power being used the public grid for data centers. the public grid for data centers. the public grid for data centers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And how you know and then you forecast a >> And how you know and then you forecast a >> And how you know and then you forecast a few years ahead of time and it's like few years ahead of time and it's like few years ahead of time and it's like this is not sustainable. Right. this is not sustainable. Right. this is not sustainable. Right. >> And uh the lack of electricity is really >> And uh the lack of electricity is really >> And uh the lack of electricity is really the gating factor in building more data the gating factor in building more data the gating factor in building more data centers anywhere in the world frankly centers anywhere in the world frankly centers anywhere in the world frankly >> and generating that power and and you >> and generating that power and and you >> and generating that power and and you know it's you're competing with know it's you're competing with know it's you're competing with municipal power people's own needs. municipal power people's own needs. municipal power people's own needs. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> So I saw some really good articles from >> So I saw some really good articles from >> So I saw some really good articles from the New York Time one from the New York the New York Time one from the New York the New York Time one from the New York Times a few others today just kind of Times a few others today just kind of Times a few others today just kind of starting to hammer on this issue a starting to hammer on this issue a starting to hammer on this issue a little more. little more. little more. >> Yeah. the sustainability of >> Yeah. the sustainability of >> Yeah. the sustainability of >> because I think when Microsoft and AWS >> because I think when Microsoft and AWS >> because I think when Microsoft and AWS they come out with their earnings the they come out with their earnings the they come out with their earnings the gating factor even Andy Jasse I think gating factor even Andy Jasse I think gating factor even Andy Jasse I think said I mean you know the gating factor said I mean you know the gating factor said I mean you know the gating factor for us is we just need to build more for us is we just need to build more for us is we just need to build more data centers data centers data centers okay well easier said than done okay well easier said than done okay well easier said than done >> right >> right >> right >> because of course it costs a ton and we >> because of course it costs a ton and we >> because of course it costs a ton and we get back to the usage around power and get back to the usage around power and get back to the usage around power and water right water right water right >> and other things so I've seen more >> and other things so I've seen more >> and other things so I've seen more chatter now and again you know the chatter now and again you know the chatter now and again you know the ability even the we were talking to the ability even the we were talking to the ability even the we were talking to the LG folks about X1, their language model LG folks about X1, their language model LG folks about X1, their language model in Korea that they've rolled out. It's in Korea that they've rolled out. It's in Korea that they've rolled out. It's pretty cool.

pretty cool. pretty cool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> With uh what was the name of that chip >> With uh what was the name of that chip >> With uh what was the name of that chip company? I'll have to look it up. Uh company? I'll have to look it up. Uh company? I'll have to look it up. Uh very cool name. But they're you know very cool name. But they're you know very cool name. But they're you know people are doing heavier and heavier people are doing heavier and heavier people are doing heavier and heavier transformer-based architecture models on transformer-based architecture models on transformer-based architecture models on the edge or I would say outside the the edge or I would say outside the the edge or I would say outside the multi-tenant data center. multi-tenant data center. multi-tenant data center. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Closer either onrem, near you know or at >> Closer either onrem, near you know or at >> Closer either onrem, near you know or at the point of impact. And so that just the point of impact. And so that just the point of impact. And so that just keeps rolling along like every week keeps rolling along like every week keeps rolling along like every week there's just more stuff and more reasons there's just more stuff and more reasons there's just more stuff and more reasons to run more workloads there. Um so um to run more workloads there. Um so um to run more workloads there. Um so um yeah I just think it's it's kind of in yeah I just think it's it's kind of in yeah I just think it's it's kind of in the news but again the news but again the news but again >> when I say in the news that's my news >> when I say in the news that's my news >> when I say in the news that's my news that's algorithmically uh curated and that's algorithmically uh curated and that's algorithmically uh curated and biased for my eyeballs. biased for my eyeballs. biased for my eyeballs. >> We are here to make you feel like you're >> We are here to make you feel like you're >> We are here to make you feel like you're the most important person on the planet. the most important person on the planet. the most important person on the planet. >> Isn't it everyone seeing the same >> Isn't it everyone seeing the same >> Isn't it everyone seeing the same articles I am? I mean come on. articles I am? I mean come on. articles I am? I mean come on. >> All the things you care about or serve >> All the things you care about or serve >> All the things you care about or serve to you just boom. Wow. to you just boom. Wow. to you just boom. Wow. >> I know. It's amazing. >> I know. It's amazing. >> I know. It's amazing. >> Everything I care about seems to be in >> Everything I care about seems to be in >> Everything I care about seems to be in the news. the news. the news. >> You know, is it is it a battle? Is it AI >> You know, is it is it a battle? Is it AI >> You know, is it is it a battle? Is it AI versus sustainability?

versus sustainability? versus sustainability? Do you think? Do you think? Do you think? >> You know, it's funny. It's I think it's >> You know, it's funny. It's I think it's >> You know, it's funny. It's I think it's getting there. It's getting there. And getting there. It's getting there. And getting there. It's getting there. And I've always been an advocate for more I've always been an advocate for more I've always been an advocate for more transparency on the amount of transparency on the amount of transparency on the amount of environmental resources used per cloud environmental resources used per cloud environmental resources used per cloud AI query. Right. So, just like you would AI query. Right. So, just like you would AI query. Right. So, just like you would show like on your fridge, you know, the show like on your fridge, you know, the show like on your fridge, you know, the what's it called? Energy Star sticker. what's it called? Energy Star sticker. what's it called? Energy Star sticker. >> Oh, yeah. right? You know, this uses 20 >> Oh, yeah. right? You know, this uses 20 >> Oh, yeah. right? You know, this uses 20 bucks a month, whatever. It's like bucks a month, whatever. It's like bucks a month, whatever. It's like >> if you started if Claude or or Chat GPT >> if you started if Claude or or Chat GPT >> if you started if Claude or or Chat GPT said this query is going to cost you, said this query is going to cost you, said this query is going to cost you, you know, four bottles of water and, you you know, four bottles of water and, you you know, four bottles of water and, you know, 200 kilowatts or whatever, know, 200 kilowatts or whatever, know, 200 kilowatts or whatever, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> You know, yes or no, you know, and I'm >> You know, yes or no, you know, and I'm >> You know, yes or no, you know, and I'm sure you'd see a really interesting user sure you'd see a really interesting user sure you'd see a really interesting user behavior there saying, well, maybe I behavior there saying, well, maybe I behavior there saying, well, maybe I don't need to don't need to don't need to >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> power and energy to answer this 2 plus >> power and energy to answer this 2 plus >> power and energy to answer this 2 plus two question. two question. two question. >> Yeah. Um, but you know, it's it costs >> Yeah. Um, but you know, it's it costs >> Yeah. Um, but you know, it's it costs money and it costs resources and and money and it costs resources and and money and it costs resources and and resources are finite. You know, it's not resources are finite. You know, it's not resources are finite. You know, it's not an infinite thing. So, an infinite thing. So, an infinite thing. So, >> I saw a I saw a video. It was like a >> I saw a I saw a video. It was like a >> I saw a I saw a video. It was like a news report out of wherever in Tennessee news report out of wherever in Tennessee news report out of wherever in Tennessee where Elon's got his XAI cluster that he where Elon's got his XAI cluster that he where Elon's got his XAI cluster that he built, Colossus. built, Colossus. built, Colossus. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which is insane. And it shows I don't >> Which is insane. And it shows I don't >> Which is insane. And it shows I don't know if it's all natural gas powered know if it's all natural gas powered know if it's all natural gas powered anyway, but this reporter is walking out anyway, but this reporter is walking out anyway, but this reporter is walking out there and it's just like there and it's just like there and it's just like it's the loudest thing you've ever heard it's the loudest thing you've ever heard it's the loudest thing you've ever heard in your life or much like when you go to in your life or much like when you go to in your life or much like when you go to a data center, you hear the servers are a data center, you hear the servers are a data center, you hear the servers are like real loud and it was just like real loud and it was just like real loud and it was just deafeningly loud outside uh in this area deafeningly loud outside uh in this area deafeningly loud outside uh in this area where they built Colossus and they were where they built Colossus and they were where they built Colossus and they were just talking about the insane amount of just talking about the insane amount of just talking about the insane amount of electricity it uses. Uh it was it was electricity it uses. Uh it was it was electricity it uses. Uh it was it was just off the charts and the noise was just off the charts and the noise was just off the charts and the noise was deafening. It was deafening. It was deafening. It was >> you know >> you know >> you know >> noiseion. >> noiseion. >> noiseion. >> Yeah, it is. And and you know when >> Yeah, it is. And and you know when >> Yeah, it is. And and you know when people this notion of you know there's people this notion of you know there's people this notion of you know there's been different entities hunting for been different entities hunting for been different entities hunting for municipalities that will say sure you municipalities that will say sure you municipalities that will say sure you can build like that whole the whole can build like that whole the whole can build like that whole the whole Stargate thing. They just got lucky that Stargate thing. They just got lucky that Stargate thing. They just got lucky that Abene said yes because apparently Abene said yes because apparently Abene said yes because apparently they've talked to lots of other they've talked to lots of other they've talked to lots of other communities. I mean, as soon as the communities. I mean, as soon as the communities. I mean, as soon as the community finds out the how much energy community finds out the how much energy community finds out the how much energy it's going to suck and water, most of it's going to suck and water, most of it's going to suck and water, most of them say, "Nope. No way. You're not them say, "Nope. No way. You're not them say, "Nope. No way. You're not coming here."

coming here." coming here." >> Right. Yeah. No, it's a tough cell. And >> Right. Yeah. No, it's a tough cell. And >> Right. Yeah. No, it's a tough cell. And and Furiosa, by the way, Furiosa AI is and Furiosa, by the way, Furiosa AI is and Furiosa, by the way, Furiosa AI is the semiconductor company working with the semiconductor company working with the semiconductor company working with LG on X1. LG on X1. LG on X1. >> Okay. Right. >> Okay. Right. >> Okay. Right. >> Which is a cool name, by the way. AI. >> Which is a cool name, by the way. AI. >> Which is a cool name, by the way. AI. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> Yeah, that's cool. But it's like, you know, maybe this But it's like, you know, maybe this But it's like, you know, maybe this translates into higher, you know, cap translates into higher, you know, cap translates into higher, you know, cap capex or opex costs for AI for capex or opex costs for AI for capex or opex costs for AI for corporate, you know, and corporate, you know, and corporate, you know, and >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> your co-pilot prices, everything is >> your co-pilot prices, everything is >> your co-pilot prices, everything is going to have to eventually go up, going to have to eventually go up, going to have to eventually go up, >> you know, to cover the cost of >> you know, to cover the cost of >> you know, to cover the cost of >> diminishing resources to power these >> diminishing resources to power these >> diminishing resources to power these things, right? And unless you can keep things, right? And unless you can keep things, right? And unless you can keep building those data centers, um, building those data centers, um, building those data centers, um, >> and the cost of energy and water and >> and the cost of energy and water and >> and the cost of energy and water and stuff like, you know, I don't know. It's stuff like, you know, I don't know. It's stuff like, you know, I don't know. It's going to be it's going to be going to be it's going to be going to be it's going to be challenging. So hopefully that doesn't challenging. So hopefully that doesn't challenging. So hopefully that doesn't mess up the economics of mess up the economics of mess up the economics of >> some of the cloud-based AI stuff, but >> some of the cloud-based AI stuff, but >> some of the cloud-based AI stuff, but >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> see, >> see, >> see, >> and then there's this whole water thing. >> and then there's this whole water thing. >> and then there's this whole water thing. And so this notion of yeah, they're And so this notion of yeah, they're And so this notion of yeah, they're using extreme amounts of water. And then using extreme amounts of water. And then using extreme amounts of water. And then one of our analyst friends who I won't one of our analyst friends who I won't one of our analyst friends who I won't name is like that's just total BS. You name is like that's just total BS. You name is like that's just total BS. You just don't know how this stuff works. just don't know how this stuff works. just don't know how this stuff works. That's mainstream media trying to scare That's mainstream media trying to scare That's mainstream media trying to scare you into it's taking away all the water you into it's taking away all the water you into it's taking away all the water from the people and stuff like that.

from the people and stuff like that. from the people and stuff like that. It's all recirculated and everything. It's all recirculated and everything. It's all recirculated and everything. And um and you're like, well, who's And um and you're like, well, who's And um and you're like, well, who's right on this subject, you know, or Fab right on this subject, you know, or Fab right on this subject, you know, or Fab Plants doing the same thing. And so, you Plants doing the same thing. And so, you Plants doing the same thing. And so, you know, I started poking around trying to know, I started poking around trying to know, I started poking around trying to do more research and do more research and do more research and I the stuff I've seen says, you know, I the stuff I've seen says, you know, I the stuff I've seen says, you know, it's still an estimate, but then an AI it's still an estimate, but then an AI it's still an estimate, but then an AI data center because the the the unit of data center because the the the unit of data center because the the the unit of work on it for especially training, uh, work on it for especially training, uh, work on it for especially training, uh, you know, with things like black wells, you know, with things like black wells, you know, with things like black wells, you know, they said it's going to use you know, they said it's going to use you know, they said it's going to use anywhere between 10 and 50 times more anywhere between 10 and 50 times more anywhere between 10 and 50 times more water than a normal data center or water than a normal data center or water than a normal data center or normal cloud data center doing normal normal cloud data center doing normal normal cloud data center doing normal workloads. And you know, I know those workloads. And you know, I know those workloads. And you know, I know those are estimates and and so, you know, I I are estimates and and so, you know, I I are estimates and and so, you know, I I read all kinds of stuff about how much read all kinds of stuff about how much read all kinds of stuff about how much more water it's using. Um, but I know more water it's using. Um, but I know more water it's using. Um, but I know we've got other analysts are saying, we've got other analysts are saying, we've got other analysts are saying, "No, this is all FUD. It's all "No, this is all FUD. It's all "No, this is all FUD. It's all recirculated and it's not using that recirculated and it's not using that recirculated and it's not using that much water and stuff like that." Um, much water and stuff like that." Um, much water and stuff like that." Um, >> it's recirculated, but it's still a lot >> it's recirculated, but it's still a lot >> it's recirculated, but it's still a lot of water. of water. of water. >> It is. And they're still using lots of >> It is. And they're still using lots of >> It is. And they're still using lots of new water. All the new water. All the new water. All the >> lot new water.

>> lot new water. >> lot new water. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But it's an >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But it's an >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But it's an interesting thing because you're right. interesting thing because you're right. interesting thing because you're right. It's it's like the onetwo punch of It's it's like the onetwo punch of It's it's like the onetwo punch of hitting pe people something people need hitting pe people something people need hitting pe people something people need electricity and water you know um to electricity and water you know um to electricity and water you know um to keep on trucking to stay alive that kind keep on trucking to stay alive that kind keep on trucking to stay alive that kind of of of >> yeah we already were struggling with >> yeah we already were struggling with >> yeah we already were struggling with there's I think there's a project right there's I think there's a project right there's I think there's a project right now just to let you know how crazy the now just to let you know how crazy the now just to let you know how crazy the water system situation is I think in water system situation is I think in water system situation is I think in Mexico they're planning out they're Mexico they're planning out they're Mexico they're planning out they're building out an salinity plant to turn building out an salinity plant to turn building out an salinity plant to turn the seawater into fresh water and then the seawater into fresh water and then the seawater into fresh water and then pump that water into Arizona pump that water into Arizona pump that water into Arizona so that people in Phoenix and stuff can so that people in Phoenix and stuff can so that people in Phoenix and stuff can use water from Mexico use water from Mexico use water from Mexico desalinated water from Mexico desalinated water from Mexico desalinated water from Mexico >> like the what is that called? Is that >> like the what is that called? Is that >> like the what is that called? Is that the the Sea of Cortez or the Gulf, you the the Sea of Cortez or the Gulf, you the the Sea of Cortez or the Gulf, you know? know? know? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> So like there's so little water left for >> So like there's so little water left for >> So like there's so little water left for municipalities that they're now municipalities that they're now municipalities that they're now importing the water from Mexico importing the water from Mexico importing the water from Mexico desalinated. So it's crazy. And so now desalinated. So it's crazy. And so now desalinated. So it's crazy. And so now you're like, "Oh, let's let's build a you're like, "Oh, let's let's build a you're like, "Oh, let's let's build a data center too in Arizona while we're data center too in Arizona while we're data center too in Arizona while we're out, you know, out, you know, out, you know, >> because Arizona that Phoenix area is >> because Arizona that Phoenix area is >> because Arizona that Phoenix area is like ground zero for a lot of stuff."

like ground zero for a lot of stuff." like ground zero for a lot of stuff." >> Um I know. And I it always I'm always >> Um I know. And I it always I'm always >> Um I know. And I it always I'm always perplexitied perplexitied perplexitied by there's a pun um by by the fact that by there's a pun um by by the fact that by there's a pun um by by the fact that that cuz you know that cuz you know that cuz you know >> cuz the Mexicans have been complaining >> cuz the Mexicans have been complaining >> cuz the Mexicans have been complaining that by the time you get through Yuma that by the time you get through Yuma that by the time you get through Yuma Arizona you know you know the Arizona you know you know the Arizona you know you know the >> obviously the Colorado River is pretty >> obviously the Colorado River is pretty >> obviously the Colorado River is pretty run dry and so the Mexicans aren't run dry and so the Mexicans aren't run dry and so the Mexicans aren't getting the water they used to get and getting the water they used to get and getting the water they used to get and so the idea that there'd be a so the idea that there'd be a so the idea that there'd be a desalinidation plant down there to send desalinidation plant down there to send desalinidation plant down there to send water back to Arizona there's the irony water back to Arizona there's the irony water back to Arizona there's the irony is incredible. I'm sure American is incredible. I'm sure American is incredible. I'm sure American companies or whoever are paying for that companies or whoever are paying for that companies or whoever are paying for that plant in Mexico and the plant in Mexico and the plant in Mexico and the >> sure >> sure >> sure >> backhole pipelines and stuff like that. >> backhole pipelines and stuff like that. >> backhole pipelines and stuff like that. Oh, good. Bill's joining, too. Um, Oh, good. Bill's joining, too. Um, Oh, good. Bill's joining, too. Um, >> yeah. So, >> yeah. So, >> yeah. So, >> you're talking about water. You're >> you're talking about water. You're >> you're talking about water. You're supposed to be talking about IoT. supposed to be talking about IoT. supposed to be talking about IoT. >> We did. >> We did. >> We did. >> Well, it's AI and data centers and then >> Well, it's AI and data centers and then >> Well, it's AI and data centers and then water and power and blah blah all that water and power and blah blah all that water and power and blah blah all that stuff. stuff. stuff. >> Yeah. We started off by talking about >> Yeah. We started off by talking about >> Yeah. We started off by talking about audio file equipment and Shabuya DJ bars audio file equipment and Shabuya DJ bars audio file equipment and Shabuya DJ bars and then and then and then >> water water everywhere but not a drop to >> water water everywhere but not a drop to >> water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.

drink. drink. >> Exactly. And then and then yes the >> Exactly. And then and then yes the >> Exactly. And then and then yes the electricity used for these data centers. electricity used for these data centers. electricity used for these data centers. >> Um yeah I I I clip yeah this one woman >> Um yeah I I I clip yeah this one woman >> Um yeah I I I clip yeah this one woman reporter in Tennessee going going over reporter in Tennessee going going over reporter in Tennessee going going over to Colossus Center Elon's. to Colossus Center Elon's. to Colossus Center Elon's. It was deafening the sound of It was deafening the sound of It was deafening the sound of >> phones. Yeah. outside, you know, like >> phones. Yeah. outside, you know, like >> phones. Yeah. outside, you know, like you couldn't live in you'd have to be you couldn't live in you'd have to be you couldn't live in you'd have to be several miles away from this place to several miles away from this place to several miles away from this place to get a good night's sleep, you know, it get a good night's sleep, you know, it get a good night's sleep, you know, it was just using insane amounts of energy. was just using insane amounts of energy. was just using insane amounts of energy. >> Oh, people used to have apartments next >> Oh, people used to have apartments next >> Oh, people used to have apartments next to the railroad tracks and what's the to the railroad tracks and what's the to the railroad tracks and what's the problem there? Yeah, problem there? Yeah, problem there? Yeah, >> you know, that makes that, you know, >> you know, that makes that, you know, >> you know, that makes that, you know, there always has to be a tie-in with there always has to be a tie-in with there always has to be a tie-in with some movie or something and and so I some movie or something and and so I some movie or something and and so I always think of the Blues Brothers when always think of the Blues Brothers when always think of the Blues Brothers when he go Elwood when he gets out of, you he go Elwood when he gets out of, you he go Elwood when he gets out of, you know, Jake gets out of jail and goes to know, Jake gets out of jail and goes to know, Jake gets out of jail and goes to his his apartment in Chicago and it's his his apartment in Chicago and it's his his apartment in Chicago and it's right next to the L. right next to the L. right next to the L. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Like the train's going by the whole He's >> Like the train's going by the whole He's >> Like the train's going by the whole He's like, "How often does that train go by?" like, "How often does that train go by?" like, "How often does that train go by?" He's like, "Oh, it's so often you won't He's like, "Oh, it's so often you won't He's like, "Oh, it's so often you won't even notice.

That's awesome. You know that there's a That's awesome. You know that there's a bit of truth to that, you know. bit of truth to that, you know. bit of truth to that, you know. >> No, it's true. >> No, it's true. >> No, it's true. >> Just becomes background. >> Just becomes background. >> Just becomes background. >> I used to have I used to have an >> I used to have I used to have an >> I used to have I used to have an apartment in San Francisco like near apartment in San Francisco like near apartment in San Francisco like near Washington and Hyde and it was right off Washington and Hyde and it was right off Washington and Hyde and it was right off of the cable car would go around the of the cable car would go around the of the cable car would go around the corner there corner there corner there >> and uh you know the ding ding ding ding >> and uh you know the ding ding ding ding >> and uh you know the ding ding ding ding ding ding ding >> and >> and >> and >> and we were on the first floor and and I >> and we were on the first floor and and I >> and we were on the first floor and and I did have friends come over. They're did have friends come over. They're did have friends come over. They're like, "What? What does that bother you?" like, "What? What does that bother you?" like, "What? What does that bother you?" I'm like, "What are you talking about? I'm like, "What are you talking about? I'm like, "What are you talking about? What do you what mean What do you what mean What do you what mean >> like constant dinging of the cable car? >> like constant dinging of the cable car? >> like constant dinging of the cable car? Yeah. It goes Yeah. It goes Yeah. It goes >> That's the environment that you're used >> That's the environment that you're used >> That's the environment that you're used to. to. to. >> Yes. Well, I think people tuned into >> Yes. Well, I think people tuned into >> Yes. Well, I think people tuned into that. Think about all the different that. Think about all the different that. Think about all the different hotels you've stayed at when we go to hotels you've stayed at when we go to hotels you've stayed at when we go to events, you know, and the kind that has events, you know, and the kind that has events, you know, and the kind that has kind of that window unit low thing and kind of that window unit low thing and kind of that window unit low thing and everything. You can control it there or everything. You can control it there or everything. You can control it there or control it on the wall. And I've noticed control it on the wall. And I've noticed control it on the wall. And I've noticed that there's a setting on all of them, that there's a setting on all of them, that there's a setting on all of them, almost all of them now, that just says almost all of them now, that just says almost all of them now, that just says keep the fan going the whole time. Uh, keep the fan going the whole time. Uh, keep the fan going the whole time. Uh, and the reason is because the AC, it and the reason is because the AC, it and the reason is because the AC, it would come on, would come on, would come on, it's loud, you know, and then when it it's loud, you know, and then when it it's loud, you know, and then when it was at the right temperature, it would was at the right temperature, it would was at the right temperature, it would go dead quiet. And so I think there was go dead quiet. And so I think there was go dead quiet. And so I think there was enough complaints from people that when enough complaints from people that when enough complaints from people that when it fired back up again at, you know, one it fired back up again at, you know, one it fired back up again at, you know, one in the morning, they're people like, in the morning, they're people like, in the morning, they're people like, >> you know, and so uh they had was like, >> you know, and so uh they had was like, >> you know, and so uh they had was like, "Okay, I need the constant sound "Okay, I need the constant sound "Okay, I need the constant sound >> whether or not I'm sending freon through >> whether or not I'm sending freon through >> whether or not I'm sending freon through this thing or not to cool you off." I this thing or not to cool you off." I this thing or not to cool you off." I don't know.

don't know. don't know. >> Well, I know I know where where I grew >> Well, I know I know where where I grew >> Well, I know I know where where I grew up uh in in LA. Um, when I first left up uh in in LA. Um, when I first left up uh in in LA. Um, when I first left and and wound up going to the Navy, I and and wound up going to the Navy, I and and wound up going to the Navy, I had trouble sleeping because in LA I was had trouble sleeping because in LA I was had trouble sleeping because in LA I was used to hearing the helicopters used to hearing the helicopters used to hearing the helicopters >> and everything. >> and everything. >> and everything. >> Oh, right. >> Oh, right. >> Oh, right. >> What helicopters? >> What helicopters? >> What helicopters? >> I lived in a high crime area, but >> I lived in a high crime area, but >> I lived in a high crime area, but >> what? >> what? >> what? >> Yeah. Yes. Quiet as it's kept. >> Yeah. Yes. Quiet as it's kept. >> Yeah. Yes. Quiet as it's kept. >> Yeah. High crime. Come on. There was >> Yeah. High crime. Come on. There was >> Yeah. High crime. Come on. There was never high crime in any of those never high crime in any of those never high crime in any of those neighborhoods in LA. I don't know what neighborhoods in LA. I don't know what neighborhoods in LA. I don't know what you're talking about. you know, you're talking about. you know, you're talking about. you know, helicopters all the time. helicopters all the time. helicopters all the time. >> There is a perception. There is >> There is a perception. There is >> There is a perception. There is >> there's a perception. Yes. You know, >> there's a perception. Yes. You know, >> there's a perception. Yes. You know, stay down. Stay down. Yeah. stay down. Stay down. Yeah. stay down. Stay down. Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. You saw a lot, didn't >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. You saw a lot, didn't >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. You saw a lot, didn't you? you? you? >> I did. >> I did. >> I did. >> Yeah, you did. Yeah. >> Yeah, you did. Yeah. >> Yeah, you did. Yeah. >> Yeah. We're Yeah. >> Yeah. We're Yeah. >> Yeah. We're Yeah. >> You were straight out of Compton. >> You were straight out of Compton. >> You were straight out of Compton. >> Straight. >> Straight. >> Straight. >> Are you serious? Is Is that where you >> Are you serious? Is Is that where you >> Are you serious? Is Is that where you >> central? South Central LA, sir.

>> central? South Central LA, sir. >> central? South Central LA, sir. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, not but you're >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, not but you're >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, not but you're right. Not all of it is bad. Everyone right. Not all of it is bad. Everyone right. Not all of it is bad. Everyone thinks that it's all bad. You know, thinks that it's all bad. You know, thinks that it's all bad. You know, there's pockets that are not that bad, there's pockets that are not that bad, there's pockets that are not that bad, but definitely. Yeah. but definitely. Yeah. but definitely. Yeah. >> Yeah. He was going to the roller rink to >> Yeah. He was going to the roller rink to >> Yeah. He was going to the roller rink to listen to, you know, Dr. Dre. listen to, you know, Dr. Dre. listen to, you know, Dr. Dre. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. Rink. Rink. Rink. >> Dang, man. The roller rink. That was >> Dang, man. The roller rink. That was >> Dang, man. The roller rink. That was >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Exactly. I think I think ice cubes at >> Exactly. I think I think ice cubes at >> Exactly. I think I think ice cubes at the roller rink tonight. Roller Rink, man. Back then, that was Roller Rink, man. Back then, that was like uh what do you call it? Uh cool in like uh what do you call it? Uh cool in like uh what do you call it? Uh cool in the gang, right? Uh Hollywood Hollywood the gang, right? Uh Hollywood Hollywood the gang, right? Uh Hollywood Hollywood swinging. That was swinging. That was swinging. That was >> Yeah, man. All of that. I mean, anything >> Yeah, man. All of that. I mean, anything >> Yeah, man. All of that. I mean, anything anything that was in like ' 80s music anything that was in like ' 80s music anything that was in like ' 80s music >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> was happening at the Roller Rink. I mean >> was happening at the Roller Rink. I mean >> was happening at the Roller Rink. I mean >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> That's awesome. Was the thing. >> That's awesome. Was the thing. >> That's awesome. Was the thing. >> Do you have a memory of roller rinks >> Do you have a memory of roller rinks >> Do you have a memory of roller rinks having shag carpet on the walls of the having shag carpet on the walls of the having shag carpet on the walls of the roller rink? cuz I just more than one roller rink? cuz I just more than one roller rink? cuz I just more than one roller rink. I remember just taking our roller rink. I remember just taking our roller rink. I remember just taking our even our kids. There was one even our kids. There was one even our kids. There was one >> in uh in Belleview or Redmond, I don't >> in uh in Belleview or Redmond, I don't >> in uh in Belleview or Redmond, I don't know. It's know. It's know. It's >> Oh, was that Skate King? Was that >> Oh, was that Skate King? Was that >> Oh, was that Skate King? Was that >> Skate King? Skate King. It's now like a >> Skate King? Skate King. It's now like a >> Skate King? Skate King. It's now like a Harley-Davidson dealership.

Harley-Davidson dealership. Harley-Davidson dealership. >> That place was uh that was a Petri Dish >> That place was uh that was a Petri Dish >> That place was uh that was a Petri Dish that place. that place. that place. >> It was a petri dish. >> It was a petri dish. >> It was a petri dish. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. There. There. There. >> Don't touch anything. Don't touch >> Don't touch anything. Don't touch >> Don't touch anything. Don't touch anything. anything. anything. >> Well, you have to put a flea collar on >> Well, you have to put a flea collar on >> Well, you have to put a flea collar on your kids. your kids. your kids. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> you cut in one of those colors carpet, >> you cut in one of those colors carpet, man. man. man. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Too funny, man. >> Too funny, man. >> Too funny, man. >> Wanted to create your own really >> Wanted to create your own really >> Wanted to create your own really high-end audio file listening room, you high-end audio file listening room, you high-end audio file listening room, you might put shag carpet on the walls, might put shag carpet on the walls, might put shag carpet on the walls, maybe. maybe. maybe. >> True. >> True. >> True. >> You could do that. You could do that. >> You could do that. You could do that. >> You could do that. You could do that. >> Could they actually have some pretty >> Could they actually have some pretty >> Could they actually have some pretty cool uh tiles on Amazon? You can get cool uh tiles on Amazon? You can get cool uh tiles on Amazon? You can get foam tiles that foam tiles that foam tiles that >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> stick on your wall. But back to the >> stick on your wall. But back to the >> stick on your wall. But back to the audio, right? is the call back now to audio, right? is the call back now to audio, right? is the call back now to the original audio conversation. the original audio conversation. the original audio conversation. >> Exactly. Yeah. I went to Shabuya Highfi >> Exactly. Yeah. I went to Shabuya Highfi >> Exactly. Yeah. I went to Shabuya Highfi last night in Ballard in Seattle and did last night in Ballard in Seattle and did last night in Ballard in Seattle and did a listening of uh Daff Punk's random a listening of uh Daff Punk's random a listening of uh Daff Punk's random access memories on vinyl and audio file access memories on vinyl and audio file access memories on vinyl and audio file equipment the bunch of people and it equipment the bunch of people and it equipment the bunch of people and it it's they're trying to recreate that it's they're trying to recreate that it's they're trying to recreate that whole experience in Japan of the the DJ whole experience in Japan of the the DJ whole experience in Japan of the the DJ bars in bars in bars in >> so that >> so that >> so that >> Ballard Ballard actually used to be the >> Ballard Ballard actually used to be the >> Ballard Ballard actually used to be the old fishing village or I would say old fishing village or I would say old fishing village or I would say maritime hub of Seattle like maritime hub of Seattle like maritime hub of Seattle like >> absolutely still is to a certain extent >> absolutely still is to a certain extent >> absolutely still is to a certain extent but but but It's been uh hipsterfied It's been uh hipsterfied It's been uh hipsterfied years.

years. years. >> So Kathy and I lived there back in the >> So Kathy and I lived there back in the >> So Kathy and I lived there back in the 90s in Ballard and it was the it was the 90s in Ballard and it was the it was the 90s in Ballard and it was the it was the sleepy fishing village, a high heavy sleepy fishing village, a high heavy sleepy fishing village, a high heavy Scandinavian population in Ballard. Scandinavian population in Ballard. Scandinavian population in Ballard. >> Um in fact they do have like a scan a >> Um in fact they do have like a scan a >> Um in fact they do have like a scan a Nordic museum there now in Ballard. Nordic museum there now in Ballard. Nordic museum there now in Ballard. >> My Volvo mechanic is in Ballard, so that >> My Volvo mechanic is in Ballard, so that >> My Volvo mechanic is in Ballard, so that makes sense. makes sense. makes sense. >> In fact, you know what? When you go to >> In fact, you know what? When you go to >> In fact, you know what? When you go to Shabuya Highfi, there's nothing more Shabuya Highfi, there's nothing more Shabuya Highfi, there's nothing more perfect than driving up in your Volvo. perfect than driving up in your Volvo. perfect than driving up in your Volvo. >> I will drive up in my Volvo. >> I will drive up in my Volvo. >> I will drive up in my Volvo. >> In your classic Volvo to go in this cool >> In your classic Volvo to go in this cool >> In your classic Volvo to go in this cool hip thing and it's all classic audio hip thing and it's all classic audio hip thing and it's all classic audio file from the7s and you're like I I was file from the7s and you're like I I was file from the7s and you're like I I was born to be here. Yeah. born to be here. Yeah. born to be here. Yeah. >> But you're right. All the cuz all the >> But you're right. All the cuz all the >> But you're right. All the cuz all the the if anybody remember that show the if anybody remember that show the if anybody remember that show Deadliest Catch, Deadliest Catch, Deadliest Catch, >> all those fishermen coming out of >> all those fishermen coming out of >> all those fishermen coming out of Fisherman's Terminal by Ballard and goes Fisherman's Terminal by Ballard and goes Fisherman's Terminal by Ballard and goes up in the Bearing Sea in Alaska. Oh, up in the Bearing Sea in Alaska. Oh, up in the Bearing Sea in Alaska. Oh, >> they all live there. >> they all live there. >> they all live there. >> Yeah, that's crazy. And unrelated to IoT >> Yeah, that's crazy. And unrelated to IoT >> Yeah, that's crazy. And unrelated to IoT or anything in tech, but those guys were or anything in tech, but those guys were or anything in tech, but those guys were risking their lives like you wouldn't risking their lives like you wouldn't risking their lives like you wouldn't believe on the high seas believe on the high seas believe on the high seas >> um to make money fishing.

>> um to make money fishing. >> um to make money fishing. >> Yeah, that stuff is super dangerous. >> Yeah, that stuff is super dangerous. >> Yeah, that stuff is super dangerous. >> Yeah, it is. >> Yeah, it is. >> Yeah, it is. >> Tie that into IoT. I would say there's >> Tie that into IoT. I would say there's >> Tie that into IoT. I would say there's an organization called maritimeblue.org an organization called maritimeblue.org an organization called maritimeblue.org if people want to look it up. And it's if people want to look it up. And it's if people want to look it up. And it's sort it's a Pacific Northwest thing. I sort it's a Pacific Northwest thing. I sort it's a Pacific Northwest thing. I think Rob, you know these guys. and uh think Rob, you know these guys. and uh think Rob, you know these guys. and uh Joshua Burgerer I think runs it and it's Joshua Burgerer I think runs it and it's Joshua Burgerer I think runs it and it's like it's a it's sort of a coalition of like it's a it's sort of a coalition of like it's a it's sort of a coalition of companies working on tech in the companies working on tech in the companies working on tech in the maritime and port shipping space and uh maritime and port shipping space and uh maritime and port shipping space and uh tons of tech, tons of edge tech and tons of tech, tons of edge tech and tons of tech, tons of edge tech and connectivity tech as you can imagine in connectivity tech as you can imagine in connectivity tech as you can imagine in the in the current maritime world. So uh the in the current maritime world. So uh the in the current maritime world. So uh >> you know pretty cool. I'm glad they have >> you know pretty cool. I'm glad they have >> you know pretty cool. I'm glad they have that organization because you're right, that organization because you're right, that organization because you're right, a lot of people it's it's forgotten a a lot of people it's it's forgotten a a lot of people it's it's forgotten a lot of times or people coming up with lot of times or people coming up with lot of times or people coming up with tech use cases and startups and they tech use cases and startups and they tech use cases and startups and they just don't think about the maritime just don't think about the maritime just don't think about the maritime world, you know. world, you know. world, you know. >> Well, and it is culturally uh I know >> Well, and it is culturally uh I know >> Well, and it is culturally uh I know Joshua was telling me like that Joshua was telling me like that Joshua was telling me like that culturally it's challenging because culturally it's challenging because culturally it's challenging because you've got a lot of, you know, what's you've got a lot of, you know, what's you've got a lot of, you know, what's that guy? Who's that guy Quint from that guy? Who's that guy Quint from that guy? Who's that guy Quint from Jaws? you know, people like that who are Jaws? you know, people like that who are Jaws? you know, people like that who are like not really techsavvy and they're, like not really techsavvy and they're, like not really techsavvy and they're, >> you know, but they they obviously they >> you know, but they they obviously they >> you know, but they they obviously they want to use the right stuff at the right want to use the right stuff at the right want to use the right stuff at the right time and it has to be built in a certain time and it has to be built in a certain time and it has to be built in a certain way. I mean, talk about industrial way. I mean, talk about industrial way. I mean, talk about industrial enclosures and yeah, you know, enclosures and yeah, you know, enclosures and yeah, you know, >> and you can imagine stuff.

>> and you can imagine stuff. >> and you can imagine stuff. >> You can imagine these young 20somes >> You can imagine these young 20somes >> You can imagine these young 20somes doing their startup and they're out on a doing their startup and they're out on a doing their startup and they're out on a ship, a boat out at sea, and they're ship, a boat out at sea, and they're ship, a boat out at sea, and they're getting seasick, but they're building getting seasick, but they're building getting seasick, but they're building this tech and then all of a sudden Roy this tech and then all of a sudden Roy this tech and then all of a sudden Roy Roy Shider pops up and says, "We're Roy Shider pops up and says, "We're Roy Shider pops up and says, "We're going to need a bigger boat." going to need a bigger boat." going to need a bigger boat." That's when you get terrified. Oh my That's when you get terrified. Oh my That's when you get terrified. Oh my gosh. Wow. That's good. gosh. Wow. That's good. gosh. Wow. That's good. >> I don't think Leonard or Bill understand >> I don't think Leonard or Bill understand >> I don't think Leonard or Bill understand what we're talking about. what we're talking about. what we're talking about. >> No, I do. They're too young. They're too >> No, I do. They're too young. They're too >> No, I do. They're too young. They're too young to know what I'm talking about. young to know what I'm talking about. young to know what I'm talking about. >> Absolutely. Oh my gosh. Wow. >> Absolutely. Oh my gosh. Wow. >> Absolutely. Oh my gosh. Wow. >> How old are you? >> How old are you? >> How old are you? >> Out to sea. >> Out to sea. >> Out to sea. >> Out to sea. The sea monsters. Yes. >> Out to sea. The sea monsters. Yes. >> Out to sea. The sea monsters. Yes. >> See, by the way, the 50th anniversary of >> See, by the way, the 50th anniversary of >> See, by the way, the 50th anniversary of Jaws, the movie. So, here in Jaws, the movie. So, here in Jaws, the movie. So, here in Massachusetts, very big thing. Massachusetts, very big thing. Massachusetts, very big thing. >> Jaws here is like a big deal on Cape >> Jaws here is like a big deal on Cape >> Jaws here is like a big deal on Cape Cod. So, everyone, Cod. So, everyone, Cod. So, everyone, >> what's that? >> what's that? >> what's that? >> 1975. Yeah. 75, right? Years. Yeah. But um Yeah. 75, right? Years. Yeah. But um yeah, everyone's into the Jaws thing out yeah, everyone's into the Jaws thing out yeah, everyone's into the Jaws thing out here. And we have sharks right here in here. And we have sharks right here in here. And we have sharks right here in NASA Beach, a couple blocks away. Was NASA Beach, a couple blocks away. Was NASA Beach, a couple blocks away. Was that before Star Wars? that before Star Wars? that before Star Wars? >> It was before Star Wars before Star >> It was before Star Wars before Star >> It was before Star Wars before Star Wars.

Wars. Wars. >> It was the first blockbuster. >> It was the first blockbuster. >> It was the first blockbuster. >> It was filmed. >> It was filmed. >> It was filmed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's been a big deal. That's been a big deal. That's been a big deal. >> That's been a big deal. You're right. >> That's been a big deal. You're right. >> That's been a big deal. You're right. The 15th anniversary. I watched some The 15th anniversary. I watched some The 15th anniversary. I watched some program and Stephen Spielberg was program and Stephen Spielberg was program and Stephen Spielberg was talking that might have been his first talking that might have been his first talking that might have been his first big movie and he big movie and he big movie and he >> Yeah. He talked about how hard it was to >> Yeah. He talked about how hard it was to >> Yeah. He talked about how hard it was to make, you know, he's a young director make, you know, he's a young director make, you know, he's a young director and then he talked about, you know, it's and then he talked about, you know, it's and then he talked about, you know, it's one thing to have all your cameras and one thing to have all your cameras and one thing to have all your cameras and do stuff when you do a normal movie on do stuff when you do a normal movie on do stuff when you do a normal movie on land and then we're out at sea land and then we're out at sea land and then we're out at sea >> and happening and he said it took like >> and happening and he said it took like >> and happening and he said it took like three or four times as long to get good three or four times as long to get good three or four times as long to get good shots just shots just shots just >> Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah, that's right. >> PreCGI. So the shark was a mechanical >> PreCGI. So the shark was a mechanical >> PreCGI. So the shark was a mechanical shark. shark. shark. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they built multiple mechanical >> And they built multiple mechanical >> And they built multiple mechanical sharks. That mechanical shark, I sharks. That mechanical shark, I sharks. That mechanical shark, I believe, is a Universal Studios now. I'm believe, is a Universal Studios now. I'm believe, is a Universal Studios now. I'm not sure. not sure. not sure. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> But um that was quite a the hydraulics >> But um that was quite a the hydraulics >> But um that was quite a the hydraulics involved and the salt of course and the involved and the salt of course and the involved and the salt of course and the >> Don't we kind of miss that? >> Don't we kind of miss that? >> Don't we kind of miss that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Practical effect and building something >> Practical effect and building something >> Practical effect and building something like I just heard I heard I know I heard like I just heard I heard I know I heard like I just heard I heard I know I heard the word King Kong.

the word King Kong. the word King Kong. >> You remember they built a robot King >> You remember they built a robot King >> You remember they built a robot King Pong. Pong. Pong. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For the movie when he climbed up the >> For the movie when he climbed up the >> For the movie when he climbed up the World Trade Center and all that stuff. World Trade Center and all that stuff. World Trade Center and all that stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then Jessica Lang when >> Yeah. Yeah. And then Jessica Lang when >> Yeah. Yeah. And then Jessica Lang when she was in the palm of uh she was in the palm of uh she was in the palm of uh >> hand. It was like a They built the hand, >> hand. It was like a They built the hand, >> hand. It was like a They built the hand, right? And it dipped into the water and right? And it dipped into the water and right? And it dipped into the water and all this other all this other all this other >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> stuff. >> stuff. >> stuff. >> Those were the good old days. >> Those were the good old days. >> Those were the good old days. >> Yeah. Yeah. But >> Yeah. Yeah. But >> Yeah. Yeah. But >> it looked real. >> it looked real. >> it looked real. >> Think think back to like I I recently >> Think think back to like I I recently >> Think think back to like I I recently watched The Empire Strikes Back with my watched The Empire Strikes Back with my watched The Empire Strikes Back with my son son son >> and man that that movie >> and man that that movie >> and man that that movie >> still, you know, holds up very well >> still, you know, holds up very well >> still, you know, holds up very well technically. You know, it looks as soon technically. You know, it looks as soon technically. You know, it looks as soon as they start sticking as soon as they as they start sticking as soon as they as they start sticking as soon as they came out with the came out with the came out with the >> CGI versions, man, they ruined >> CGI versions, man, they ruined >> CGI versions, man, they ruined everything. You know, there's there's everything. You know, there's there's everything. You know, there's there's something to be, you know, something to be, you know, something to be, you know, you know, when there's something's left you know, when there's something's left you know, when there's something's left to the imagination, right? And I think to the imagination, right? And I think to the imagination, right? And I think Star Wars, that franchise was the Star Wars, that franchise was the Star Wars, that franchise was the greatest when uh George Lucas just left greatest when uh George Lucas just left greatest when uh George Lucas just left it as those three movies. Then it as those three movies. Then it as those three movies. Then everyone's imagination everyone's imagination everyone's imagination >> went wild, right? and everyone had an >> went wild, right? and everyone had an >> went wild, right? and everyone had an individual sort of uh you know threat of individual sort of uh you know threat of individual sort of uh you know threat of fantasy that stemmed off of those fantasy that stemmed off of those fantasy that stemmed off of those movies. And then now that Disney's come movies. And then now that Disney's come movies. And then now that Disney's come up with these real you know some pretty up with these real you know some pretty up with these real you know some pretty terrible shows terrible shows terrible shows that ruined everything. And so now you that ruined everything. And so now you that ruined everything. And so now you have to somehow marry this really cool have to somehow marry this really cool have to somehow marry this really cool fantasy that you created around that fantasy that you created around that fantasy that you created around that franchise and reconcile it with a bunch

franchise and reconcile it with a bunch franchise and reconcile it with a bunch of crap, you know, CGI. of crap, you know, CGI. of crap, you know, CGI. >> Andor Andor is pretty good. Andor is >> Andor Andor is pretty good. Andor is >> Andor Andor is pretty good. Andor is pretty good. pretty good. pretty good. >> That's what I heard. I was on the plane >> That's what I heard. I was on the plane >> That's what I heard. I was on the plane on the way back. Yeah. I heard some dude on the way back. Yeah. I heard some dude on the way back. Yeah. I heard some dude >> Yeah. very loudly recommending to the >> Yeah. very loudly recommending to the >> Yeah. very loudly recommending to the entire plane watching. entire plane watching. entire plane watching. >> Yeah. There's a lot of There's a lot of >> Yeah. There's a lot of There's a lot of >> Yeah. There's a lot of There's a lot of nerdy people nerdy people nerdy people >> Oh, yeah. like us that spend a lot of >> Oh, yeah. like us that spend a lot of >> Oh, yeah. like us that spend a lot of time talking about, you know, how Star time talking about, you know, how Star time talking about, you know, how Star Wars changed their life and it was an Wars changed their life and it was an Wars changed their life and it was an awakening for them and they'll talk awakening for them and they'll talk awakening for them and they'll talk about what are the best Star Wars movie. about what are the best Star Wars movie. about what are the best Star Wars movie. Lots of people will say there have been Lots of people will say there have been Lots of people will say there have been no good Star Wars movies made in the no good Star Wars movies made in the no good Star Wars movies made in the 21st century, 21st century, 21st century, >> but I think there was one and lots of >> but I think there was one and lots of >> but I think there was one and lots of people say concur with this. Um, Rogue people say concur with this. Um, Rogue people say concur with this. Um, Rogue One I think is the only good One I think is the only good One I think is the only good >> movie that's that they put and now and >> movie that's that they put and now and >> movie that's that they put and now and that led to andor and all that stuff cuz that led to andor and all that stuff cuz that led to andor and all that stuff cuz Rogue One was so clever and so good. Um, Rogue One was so clever and so good. Um, Rogue One was so clever and so good. Um, >> yeah, the pre prequel. >> yeah, the pre prequel. >> yeah, the pre prequel. >> Yeah. Unlike all those stupid ones with, >> Yeah. Unlike all those stupid ones with, >> Yeah. Unlike all those stupid ones with, you know, Jar Jar Banks and you know, Jar Jar Banks and you know, Jar Jar Banks and Earth Earth Earth >> Jar Jar that was the nater.

Um, so a lot of people what what I think Um, so a lot of people what what I think the consensus and obviously this is what the consensus and obviously this is what the consensus and obviously this is what I hear, you know, a lot of people think I hear, you know, a lot of people think I hear, you know, a lot of people think as you just said, Leonard, a lot of as you just said, Leonard, a lot of as you just said, Leonard, a lot of people think Empire Strikes Back is people think Empire Strikes Back is people think Empire Strikes Back is number one, the best. number one, the best. number one, the best. >> Um, some people say A New Hope, the >> Um, some people say A New Hope, the >> Um, some people say A New Hope, the first one is number two or Rogue One is first one is number two or Rogue One is first one is number two or Rogue One is number two and New Hope is number three. number two and New Hope is number three. number two and New Hope is number three. Um, and then all the rest, you know, I Um, and then all the rest, you know, I Um, and then all the rest, you know, I don't know. don't know. don't know. >> I don't know. Revenge of the Sith was >> I don't know. Revenge of the Sith was >> I don't know. Revenge of the Sith was pretty damn good. I was going to say pretty damn good. I was going to say pretty damn good. I was going to say that's in the that's in the bitting that's in the that's in the bitting that's in the that's in the bitting distance there. distance there. distance there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's pretty good. >> It's pretty good. >> It's pretty good. >> Yeah. Some of the some they they had >> Yeah. Some of the some they they had >> Yeah. Some of the some they they had some lines in that movie that just some lines in that movie that just some lines in that movie that just really killed it for me. But um yeah, I really killed it for me. But um yeah, I really killed it for me. But um yeah, I I thought Solo was was pretty good. I I thought Solo was was pretty good. I I thought Solo was was pretty good. I don't know why don't know why don't know why >> Solo was by far the worst one ever made. >> Solo was by far the worst one ever made. >> Solo was by far the worst one ever made. And if you liked it, you obviously have And if you liked it, you obviously have And if you liked it, you obviously have no taste. So sorry. no taste. So sorry. no taste. So sorry. >> So sorry. You you you're now you're off >> So sorry. You you you're now you're off >> So sorry. You you you're now you're off the island. the island. the island. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> You're off Skywalker's ranch.

>> Get off of Skywalker's Ranch. >> Get off of Skywalker's Ranch. >> Get out of here. >> Get out of here. >> Get out of here. >> Um >> Um >> Um uh No, I actually liked it. I don't know uh No, I actually liked it. I don't know uh No, I actually liked it. I don't know why people hate it. What was so bad why people hate it. What was so bad why people hate it. What was so bad about it? I don't know. I don't remember about it? I don't know. I don't remember about it? I don't know. I don't remember it now. it now. it now. >> That That's what That's what's so bad >> That That's what That's what's so bad >> That That's what That's what's so bad about it. That's, you know, one of my, about it. That's, you know, one of my, about it. That's, you know, one of my, as a professional movie reviewer, one of as a professional movie reviewer, one of as a professional movie reviewer, one of my criteria is, would I want to go see my criteria is, would I want to go see my criteria is, would I want to go see this movie again? You know, and there's this movie again? You know, and there's this movie again? You know, and there's so many movies that they just like so many movies that they just like so many movies that they just like >> they're not worth watching. Got it. >> they're not worth watching. Got it. >> they're not worth watching. Got it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> My me my measure is does it sit on my >> My me my measure is does it sit on my >> My me my measure is does it sit on my NAV server? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is it worthy of taking up >> Is it worthy of taking up >> Is it worthy of taking up >> That's the criteria. Yeah. >> That's the criteria. Yeah. >> That's the criteria. Yeah. >> Yes. Is it worthy of taking up, you >> Yes. Is it worthy of taking up, you >> Yes. Is it worthy of taking up, you know, anywhere from 30 to 60 gig of my know, anywhere from 30 to 60 gig of my know, anywhere from 30 to 60 gig of my >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> space, >> space, >> space, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Uh, no. The thing that killed it for me >> Uh, no. The thing that killed it for me >> Uh, no. The thing that killed it for me for uh Rogue One was, you know, when for uh Rogue One was, you know, when for uh Rogue One was, you know, when they went to get the they went to get the they went to get the uh server room, data storage or gigantic uh server room, data storage or gigantic uh server room, data storage or gigantic uh uh detached uh uh detached uh uh detached storage room, you know. Um, storage room, you know. Um, storage room, you know. Um, >> and it was like a harm and getting out.

>> and it was like a harm and getting out. >> and it was like a harm and getting out. >> The thing is like the size of a freaking >> The thing is like the size of a freaking >> The thing is like the size of a freaking massive um, you know, massive hard massive um, you know, massive hard massive um, you know, massive hard drive, you know, old school. It's not drive, you know, old school. It's not drive, you know, old school. It's not even SSD. And then when they play it even SSD. And then when they play it even SSD. And then when they play it back, it's like completely low res, you back, it's like completely low res, you back, it's like completely low res, you know, schematic of the Death Star know, schematic of the Death Star know, schematic of the Death Star wireframe wireframe wireframe >> that that just I, you know, it should >> that that just I, you know, it should >> that that just I, you know, it should have been like like a mini or micro SD have been like like a mini or micro SD have been like like a mini or micro SD or something like that. or something like that. or something like that. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> They were not as advanced as we are >> They were not as advanced as we are >> They were not as advanced as we are today. We would have a little thumb today. We would have a little thumb today. We would have a little thumb drive with the entire plans for the drive with the entire plans for the drive with the entire plans for the Death Star. Death Star. Death Star. >> Yeah, but they figured out how to travel >> Yeah, but they figured out how to travel >> Yeah, but they figured out how to travel faster than light, you know? I mean, faster than light, you know? I mean, faster than light, you know? I mean, >> that but they could drive. >> that but they could drive. >> that but they could drive. >> They should have had the real to real >> They should have had the real to real >> They should have had the real to real the real to real tape deck. the real to real tape deck. the real to real tape deck. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> They didn't have TSMC >> They didn't have TSMC >> They didn't have TSMC or SKHX apparently in the Star Wars or SKHX apparently in the Star Wars or SKHX apparently in the Star Wars galaxy. But you know some of those galaxy. But you know some of those galaxy. But you know some of those prequels though um you know with some it prequels though um you know with some it prequels though um you know with some it was the height of horrible acting like was the height of horrible acting like was the height of horrible acting like Natalie Portman and whatever what and Natalie Portman and whatever what and Natalie Portman and whatever what and whatever the guy's name at play Anakin whatever the guy's name at play Anakin whatever the guy's name at play Anakin who who who >> yeah the two of them in the last prequel >> yeah the two of them in the last prequel >> yeah the two of them in the last prequel together you know when you ultimately together you know when you ultimately together you know when you ultimately transforms into Vader but that is some transforms into Vader but that is some transforms into Vader but that is some of the worst acting I've ever seen since of the worst acting I've ever seen since of the worst acting I've ever seen since Appalonia 6 in Purple Rain. That was Appalonia 6 in Purple Rain. That was Appalonia 6 in Purple Rain. That was some really that bad.

some really that bad. some really that bad. >> Oh, do you remember some of the lines in >> Oh, do you remember some of the lines in >> Oh, do you remember some of the lines in Purple Ray and like Apple? She's like, Purple Ray and like Apple? She's like, Purple Ray and like Apple? She's like, "And you, what did you dream of?" I'm "And you, what did you dream of?" I'm "And you, what did you dream of?" I'm like, "Oh, girl, >> should have never opened up her mouth >> should have never opened up her mouth and just sat there and looked." and just sat there and looked." and just sat there and looked." >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Purple. What a But that's a great movie >> Purple. What a But that's a great movie >> Purple. What a But that's a great movie though. Horrible acting on her part, but though. Horrible acting on her part, but though. Horrible acting on her part, but you know, love that was kind of you know, love that was kind of you know, love that was kind of autobiographical of Prince actually, you autobiographical of Prince actually, you autobiographical of Prince actually, you know. know. know. >> Yeah. But speaking of speaking of AI >> Yeah. But speaking of speaking of AI >> Yeah. But speaking of speaking of AI Apocalypse, do you guys see the the what Apocalypse, do you guys see the the what Apocalypse, do you guys see the the what is it? The Last Reckoning or the MI you is it? The Last Reckoning or the MI you is it? The Last Reckoning or the MI you Mission Impossible the Mission Impossible the Mission Impossible the >> Final Reckoning, right? >> Final Reckoning, right? >> Final Reckoning, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I haven't seen it yet. >> I haven't seen it yet. >> I haven't seen it yet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. I won't this isn't I won't >> Yeah. Okay. I won't this isn't I won't >> Yeah. Okay. I won't this isn't I won't spoil it for you, but I will spoil this spoil it for you, but I will spoil this spoil it for you, but I will spoil this aspect because you you got a sense of aspect because you you got a sense of aspect because you you got a sense of this in the the previous one previous uh this in the the previous one previous uh this in the the previous one previous uh installment. installment. installment. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It it's like a freaking Scooby-Doo. like >> It it's like a freaking Scooby-Doo. like >> It it's like a freaking Scooby-Doo. like the the the end of a Scooby-Doo where the the the end of a Scooby-Doo where the the the end of a Scooby-Doo where like the villain like the villain like the villain >> where they pull off the map. >> where they pull off the map. >> where they pull off the map. >> Yeah. that whole, you know, if it wasn't >> Yeah. that whole, you know, if it wasn't >> Yeah. that whole, you know, if it wasn't for you, um, for you, um, for you, um, >> the meddling kids, >> the meddling kids, >> the meddling kids, >> the meddling kids, except >> the meddling kids, except >> the meddling kids, except >> it's that whole thing throughout the >> it's that whole thing throughout the >> it's that whole thing throughout the movie, you know, they're like having to movie, you know, they're like having to movie, you know, they're like having to explain explain explain everything and it's just everything and it's just everything and it's just >> I don't know, you know, talking about >> I don't know, you know, talking about >> I don't know, you know, talking about bad acting. Tom Cruz is a decent actor bad acting. Tom Cruz is a decent actor bad acting. Tom Cruz is a decent actor if not in in certain instances pretty if not in in certain instances pretty if not in in certain instances pretty damn good, right? But yeah, sometimes damn good, right? But yeah, sometimes damn good, right? But yeah, sometimes it's a director, man.

it's a director, man. it's a director, man. >> Yeah. You know, there may have been some >> Yeah. You know, there may have been some >> Yeah. You know, there may have been some good shots. It's just the the director good shots. It's just the the director good shots. It's just the the director and whoever and whoever and whoever >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> edited the material just did a job, >> edited the material just did a job, >> edited the material just did a job, you know, and editing is not easy. you know, and editing is not easy. you know, and editing is not easy. There's this whole timing element, you There's this whole timing element, you There's this whole timing element, you know what I'm saying? know what I'm saying? know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. And then that creates sort of that >> Yeah. And then that creates sort of that >> Yeah. And then that creates sort of that feel and style of the movie. So feel and style of the movie. So feel and style of the movie. So >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> I think when people say, "Hey, you know, >> I think when people say, "Hey, you know, >> I think when people say, "Hey, you know, we're going to have Generative AI create we're going to have Generative AI create we're going to have Generative AI create like a whole freaking movie. Good luck." like a whole freaking movie. Good luck." like a whole freaking movie. Good luck." You know, I think it takes a tremendous You know, I think it takes a tremendous You know, I think it takes a tremendous amount of um of talent and and amount of um of talent and and amount of um of talent and and multid-disiplinary talent to actually multid-disiplinary talent to actually multid-disiplinary talent to actually make one shot in great make one shot in great make one shot in great >> although can't give it a prompt and say, >> although can't give it a prompt and say, >> although can't give it a prompt and say, you know, in the style of Quinton you know, in the style of Quinton you know, in the style of Quinton Tarantino with the editing skills of Tarantino with the editing skills of Tarantino with the editing skills of blah blah blah. blah blah blah. blah blah blah. >> Yeah. with the background music of Han >> Yeah. with the background music of Han >> Yeah. with the background music of Han Zimmer. Zimmer. Zimmer. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Sure. Sure. Although, you know, I'll >> Sure. Sure. Although, you know, I'll >> Sure. Sure. Although, you know, I'll tell you the F1 F1 movie Han Zimmer, tell you the F1 F1 movie Han Zimmer, tell you the F1 F1 movie Han Zimmer, man. His soundtrack is like I wa I man. His soundtrack is like I wa I man. His soundtrack is like I wa I watched it watched it watched it >> movie. Great.

>> movie. Great. >> movie. Great. >> I've seen it twice. It's awesome. >> I've seen it twice. It's awesome. >> I've seen it twice. It's awesome. >> That's a great movie. >> That's a great movie. >> That's a great movie. >> It meets your criteria twice. >> It meets your criteria twice. >> It meets your criteria twice. >> Are you just trying to rub it in? You >> Are you just trying to rub it in? You >> Are you just trying to rub it in? You know, um Dmitri is gonna watch this know, um Dmitri is gonna watch this know, um Dmitri is gonna watch this episode. He's gonna get so pissed off at episode. He's gonna get so pissed off at episode. He's gonna get so pissed off at you. You know what? You know what, you. You know what? You know what, you. You know what? You know what, Dimmitri, Mr. Positivity, um, you know, Dimmitri, Mr. Positivity, um, you know, Dimmitri, Mr. Positivity, um, you know, he never has anything nice to say on his he never has anything nice to say on his he never has anything nice to say on his show or on any calls he any I make on show or on any calls he any I make on show or on any calls he any I make on LinkedIn, he never says anything LinkedIn, he never says anything LinkedIn, he never says anything positive. He's always bashing. Anything positive. He's always bashing. Anything positive. He's always bashing. Anything I say, Demetri is like, "That sucks, I say, Demetri is like, "That sucks, I say, Demetri is like, "That sucks, sir." Or, "You're an idiot." You know? sir." Or, "You're an idiot." You know? sir." Or, "You're an idiot." You know? >> No. You know, he he he's weird in that >> No. You know, he he he's weird in that >> No. You know, he he he's weird in that nowadays he defends gender AI quite a nowadays he defends gender AI quite a nowadays he defends gender AI quite a bit, you know. So yeah, he's he he'll bit, you know. So yeah, he's he he'll bit, you know. So yeah, he's he he'll say a couple of nice things about just say a couple of nice things about just say a couple of nice things about just maybe to be controversial. maybe to be controversial. maybe to be controversial. >> Yeah. But um >> Yeah. But um >> Yeah. But um >> so GPT5 >> so GPT5 >> so GPT5 passed the uh not the MCAT the passed the uh not the MCAT the passed the uh not the MCAT the certification exam after you've gone certification exam after you've gone certification exam after you've gone through your residency and everything in through your residency and everything in through your residency and everything in ter you know as a doctor ter you know as a doctor ter you know as a doctor it passed that test um and GBT5 is now it passed that test um and GBT5 is now it passed that test um and GBT5 is now showing higher percentage success rates showing higher percentage success rates showing higher percentage success rates than actual doctors and it passed the than actual doctors and it passed the than actual doctors and it passed the test to become a doctor and so on some test to become a doctor and so on some test to become a doctor and so on some level you have to go I mean we can all level you have to go I mean we can all level you have to go I mean we can all put our head in the sand and say it's put our head in the sand and say it's put our head in the sand and say it's still hallucinating. It's bad, but at still hallucinating. It's bad, but at still hallucinating. It's bad, but at the same time, it's passing all these the same time, it's passing all these the same time, it's passing all these tests and blowing things away and it is tests and blowing things away and it is tests and blowing things away and it is actually smarter than any human and actually smarter than any human and actually smarter than any human and it's, you know, and so that's really it's, you know, and so that's really it's, you know, and so that's really happening. There's all these AI happening. There's all these AI happening. There's all these AI benchmark exams and things and there's I benchmark exams and things and there's I benchmark exams and things and there's I I love my favorite one is called

I love my favorite one is called I love my favorite one is called humanity's last exam humanity's last exam humanity's last exam >> and and AI does on that and it's kind of >> and and AI does on that and it's kind of >> and and AI does on that and it's kind of creepy and dystopian too, isn't it? You creepy and dystopian too, isn't it? You creepy and dystopian too, isn't it? You know? know? know? >> Yeah. But yeah, >> Yeah. But yeah, >> Yeah. But yeah, >> I mean why why would we even be >> I mean why why would we even be >> I mean why why would we even be surprised that a large language model surprised that a large language model surprised that a large language model can pass that? I mean, isn't isn't it can pass that? I mean, isn't isn't it can pass that? I mean, isn't isn't it all kind of built up of equations in the all kind of built up of equations in the all kind of built up of equations in the first place first place first place >> or just >> or just >> or just >> and there's there's reasoning built in >> and there's there's reasoning built in >> and there's there's reasoning built in and then there's I mean so there is 100% and then there's I mean so there is 100% and then there's I mean so there is 100% a workflow to solving a problem. a workflow to solving a problem. a workflow to solving a problem. >> So that kind of stuff doesn't impress >> So that kind of stuff doesn't impress >> So that kind of stuff doesn't impress me. me. me. >> It it >> It it >> It it >> Yeah. I mean, those those tests are >> Yeah. I mean, those those tests are >> Yeah. I mean, those those tests are geared toward testing people. Um, and geared toward testing people. Um, and geared toward testing people. Um, and then, um, you know, to say that then, um, you know, to say that then, um, you know, to say that an LLM is smart because it beats a human an LLM is smart because it beats a human an LLM is smart because it beats a human test, it's like saying, um, hey, you test, it's like saying, um, hey, you test, it's like saying, um, hey, you know, a calculator is smarter than a know, a calculator is smarter than a know, a calculator is smarter than a human because it can do very, very long human because it can do very, very long human because it can do very, very long division or, uh, multiplication or division or, uh, multiplication or division or, uh, multiplication or addition. So yeah, you know, freaking addition. So yeah, you know, freaking addition. So yeah, you know, freaking calculator is a hell of a lot smarter calculator is a hell of a lot smarter calculator is a hell of a lot smarter than us. And you know, some some people than us. And you know, some some people than us. And you know, some some people can't even u count change back to you.

can't even u count change back to you. can't even u count change back to you. >> Oh, you know. >> Oh, you know. >> Oh, you know. >> Oh, that absolutely not. >> Oh, that absolutely not. >> Oh, that absolutely not. >> My wife loses her over that, >> My wife loses her over that, >> My wife loses her over that, >> you know, like she'll go to the >> you know, like she'll go to the >> you know, like she'll go to the drive-thru of drive-thru of drive-thru of >> what's changed? What has changed? >> what's changed? What has changed? >> what's changed? What has changed? But but these these kids who are working But but these these kids who are working But but these these kids who are working at the drive-thru and you you know how at the drive-thru and you you know how at the drive-thru and you you know how you you know what the price is and you you you know what the price is and you you you know what the price is and you and she gives them the extra money and and she gives them the extra money and and she gives them the extra money and everything to make it even to give a everything to make it even to give a everything to make it even to give a dollar, dollar, dollar, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And the kids are like looking at it >> And the kids are like looking at it >> And the kids are like looking at it going, I don't know what to do. That's going, I don't know what to do. That's going, I don't know what to do. That's not comput, not comput, not comput, >> you know. All I know how to do is just >> you know. All I know how to do is just >> you know. All I know how to do is just punch these things on my computer to punch these things on my computer to punch these things on my computer to make it happen. I have no idea how to make it happen. I have no idea how to make it happen. I have no idea how to count or any basic stuff. So that's a count or any basic stuff. So that's a count or any basic stuff. So that's a good point, Leonard. you know, yeah, good point, Leonard. you know, yeah, good point, Leonard. you know, yeah, you're right. The calculators smarter you're right. The calculators smarter you're right. The calculators smarter than most people and the LLMs now are so than most people and the LLMs now are so than most people and the LLMs now are so big. You could you could say, well, big. You could you could say, well, big. You could you could say, well, we've scraped everything because all we've scraped everything because all we've scraped everything because all you're thinking about is a data set for you're thinking about is a data set for you're thinking about is a data set for all the knowledge in the world. And so, all the knowledge in the world. And so, all the knowledge in the world. And so, if your data set if your LLM is if your data set if your LLM is if your data set if your LLM is comprised of all the knowledge of comprised of all the knowledge of comprised of all the knowledge of medicine in every possible scenario, medicine in every possible scenario, medicine in every possible scenario, then you would expect it to be able to then you would expect it to be able to then you would expect it to be able to know the answers to all the questions to know the answers to all the questions to know the answers to all the questions to pass the exam to become a doctor, I pass the exam to become a doctor, I pass the exam to become a doctor, I guess, right? Um, that wasn't always the guess, right? Um, that wasn't always the guess, right? Um, that wasn't always the case, but you know, but I have heard, case, but you know, but I have heard, case, but you know, but I have heard, you know, I guess what people are really you know, I guess what people are really you know, I guess what people are really pushing for though is not just knowing pushing for though is not just knowing pushing for though is not just knowing what we know, but when are you going to what we know, but when are you going to what we know, but when are you going to start the self-reinforcing and getting start the self-reinforcing and getting start the self-reinforcing and getting smarter and being able because uh, you smarter and being able because uh, you smarter and being able because uh, you know, know, know, >> yeah, learning >> yeah, learning >> yeah, learning >> learning because, you know, like >> learning because, you know, like >> learning because, you know, like >> they're not learning.

>> they're not learning. >> they're not learning. >> You know, the podcast I listen to the >> You know, the podcast I listen to the >> You know, the podcast I listen to the most is Moonshots. um and some of the most is Moonshots. um and some of the most is Moonshots. um and some of the all-in guys and it's all the hardcore AI all-in guys and it's all the hardcore AI all-in guys and it's all the hardcore AI guys and they're just like now we wanted guys and they're just like now we wanted guys and they're just like now we wanted to they talk about it solving physics to they talk about it solving physics to they talk about it solving physics solving mathematics like literally um solving mathematics like literally um solving mathematics like literally um and so and apparently lately some new and so and apparently lately some new and so and apparently lately some new mathematical proofs that have never been mathematical proofs that have never been mathematical proofs that have never been solved by a human before have been solved by a human before have been solved by a human before have been solved by GPT5. solved by GPT5. solved by GPT5. Um, and so while we do a lot of AI Um, and so while we do a lot of AI Um, and so while we do a lot of AI bashing on here, I do I have to admit bashing on here, I do I have to admit bashing on here, I do I have to admit the stuff is getting pretty smart. the stuff is getting pretty smart. the stuff is getting pretty smart. >> Yeah, it's it's definitely uh getting >> Yeah, it's it's definitely uh getting >> Yeah, it's it's definitely uh getting capable. Um, but you know, when it comes capable. Um, but you know, when it comes capable. Um, but you know, when it comes to to to so the supercomputing aspect of it is so the supercomputing aspect of it is so the supercomputing aspect of it is tremendous. It democratizes a lot of tremendous. It democratizes a lot of tremendous. It democratizes a lot of that because I mean, think about it. I that because I mean, think about it. I that because I mean, think about it. I if you have this esoteric if you have this esoteric if you have this esoteric um formerly impossible or human um formerly impossible or human um formerly impossible or human impossible impossible impossible u math equation or proof um you know it u math equation or proof um you know it u math equation or proof um you know it it's it's it's oh my god my brain is so f fried oh my god my brain is so f fried oh my god my brain is so f fried hot chips has destroyed me hot chips has destroyed me hot chips has destroyed me >> oh my god yeah uh never mind um >> oh my god yeah uh never mind um >> oh my god yeah uh never mind um go ahead and talk I'm like just go ahead and talk I'm like just go ahead and talk I'm like just >> if you really want to get >> if you really want to get >> if you really want to get state-of-the-art on AI, you need to state-of-the-art on AI, you need to state-of-the-art on AI, you need to watch South Park and then you'll

>> Oh, the >> Oh, the >> Yeah, you know, I mean, oh yeah, no, my >> Yeah, you know, I mean, oh yeah, no, my >> Yeah, you know, I mean, oh yeah, no, my point my point was is it's point my point was is it's point my point was is it's supercomputing and it's very it's supercomputing and it's very it's supercomputing and it's very it's specific, but then one of the cool specific, but then one of the cool specific, but then one of the cool things about LLMs is it brought that things about LLMs is it brought that things about LLMs is it brought that power um down to uh you know um power um down to uh you know um power um down to uh you know um >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> smaller form factors. You don't need to >> smaller form factors. You don't need to >> smaller form factors. You don't need to have like uh the largest um you know uh have like uh the largest um you know uh have like uh the largest um you know uh supercomputer in the world to do these supercomputer in the world to do these supercomputer in the world to do these things anymore. Right. things anymore. Right. things anymore. Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Um but when it comes to productivity, I >> Um but when it comes to productivity, I >> Um but when it comes to productivity, I mean I've been getting off calls where mean I've been getting off calls where mean I've been getting off calls where it's funny. It's great that all these it's funny. It's great that all these it's funny. It's great that all these people imagine and I was at hot people imagine and I was at hot people imagine and I was at hot chips, right? From a hardware chips, right? From a hardware chips, right? From a hardware perspective, even a lot of the model perspective, even a lot of the model perspective, even a lot of the model stuff. Uh I I got a whole three-day you stuff. Uh I I got a whole three-day you stuff. Uh I I got a whole three-day you know Stanford know Stanford know Stanford you know data dump on what's happening you know data dump on what's happening you know data dump on what's happening and trust me man there are huge and trust me man there are huge and trust me man there are huge disconnects especially if you aspire to disconnects especially if you aspire to disconnects especially if you aspire to use these tools for business and use these tools for business and use these tools for business and industry you know where super these are industry you know where super these are industry you know where super these are not supercomputing functions you need not supercomputing functions you need not supercomputing functions you need right and so um you know we've been right and so um you know we've been right and so um you know we've been saying from the beginning this is AI saying from the beginning this is AI saying from the beginning this is AI supercomputing supercomputing supercomputing It's super computing. It's it solves It's super computing. It's it solves It's super computing. It's it solves different types of problems. And then different types of problems. And then different types of problems. And then when you start to look at quantum, which when you start to look at quantum, which when you start to look at quantum, which everyone is teeing up and and we're everyone is teeing up and and we're everyone is teeing up and and we're going to have to deal with quantum going to have to deal with quantum going to have to deal with quantum silliness after all this agentic stuff silliness after all this agentic stuff silliness after all this agentic stuff falls flat on its face, falls flat on its face, falls flat on its face, you know, that's being completely

you know, that's being completely you know, that's being completely misunderstood as well. And how do I misunderstood as well. And how do I misunderstood as well. And how do I know? I sat next to um one of the know? I sat next to um one of the know? I sat next to um one of the leading um you know researchers in leading um you know researchers in leading um you know researchers in quantum computing from Princeton quantum computing from Princeton quantum computing from Princeton University when I was up in Deer Valley University when I was up in Deer Valley University when I was up in Deer Valley and we had long conversations about this and we had long conversations about this and we had long conversations about this and and and >> um he he even said yeah a lot of what >> um he he even said yeah a lot of what >> um he he even said yeah a lot of what people are talking about quantum is very people are talking about quantum is very people are talking about quantum is very misguided. I said doesn't surprise me. misguided. I said doesn't surprise me. misguided. I said doesn't surprise me. Maybe, you know, AI that we're building Maybe, you know, AI that we're building Maybe, you know, AI that we're building now is going to help us make now is going to help us make now is going to help us make breakthroughs in quantum computing. breakthroughs in quantum computing. breakthroughs in quantum computing. >> Yeah, I think it will. >> Yeah, I think it will. >> Yeah, I think it will. >> I mean, that that was some more tech >> I mean, that that was some more tech >> I mean, that that was some more tech news this week. Uh IBM and AMD have news this week. Uh IBM and AMD have news this week. Uh IBM and AMD have partnered together partnered together partnered together >> to go after quantum together using AMD's >> to go after quantum together using AMD's >> to go after quantum together using AMD's accelerator, you know, to do just that, accelerator, you know, to do just that, accelerator, you know, to do just that, >> you know. Um, obviously they're not >> you know. Um, obviously they're not >> you know. Um, obviously they're not partnering with Jensen, but they're partnering with Jensen, but they're partnering with Jensen, but they're partnering with Lisa and to use AI to partnering with Lisa and to use AI to partnering with Lisa and to use AI to get smarter because maybe there are get smarter because maybe there are get smarter because maybe there are things that we've hit some I don't want things that we've hit some I don't want things that we've hit some I don't want to say the limits of the human mind, but to say the limits of the human mind, but to say the limits of the human mind, but the things that humans are thinking of the things that humans are thinking of the things that humans are thinking of to really make this breakthrough with to really make this breakthrough with to really make this breakthrough with cubits and quantum. Maybe AI will help cubits and quantum. Maybe AI will help cubits and quantum. Maybe AI will help us get over the hump.

us get over the hump. us get over the hump. >> Yeah. I mean, it's a it's a it's an >> Yeah. I mean, it's a it's a it's an >> Yeah. I mean, it's a it's a it's an accelerator, right, for the researchers. accelerator, right, for the researchers. accelerator, right, for the researchers. It gives them force multiplication and It gives them force multiplication and It gives them force multiplication and that's really great especially for that's really great especially for that's really great especially for discovery in certain stages of the discovery in certain stages of the discovery in certain stages of the process they go through and you know process they go through and you know process they go through and you know discovering a technology or you know um discovering a technology or you know um discovering a technology or you know um you know um you know um you know um >> it's just wild when I hear people talk >> it's just wild when I hear people talk >> it's just wild when I hear people talk about you know cuz like these things I about you know cuz like these things I about you know cuz like these things I listen to they're all MIT PhDs and listen to they're all MIT PhDs and listen to they're all MIT PhDs and they're like the smartest guys on the they're like the smartest guys on the they're like the smartest guys on the planet and they're just like we're going planet and they're just like we're going planet and they're just like we're going to solve physics solve mathematics solve to solve physics solve mathematics solve to solve physics solve mathematics solve and it's just like that's big statement and it's just like that's big statement and it's just like that's big statement all these unknowns or things that we all these unknowns or things that we all these unknowns or things that we haven't been able to do and yeah so I haven't been able to do and yeah so I haven't been able to do and yeah so I based on what I'm hearing based on what I'm hearing based on what I'm hearing >> I in the future I would expect 100% of >> I in the future I would expect 100% of >> I in the future I would expect 100% of all doctors to be using AI in their job all doctors to be using AI in their job all doctors to be using AI in their job because it's so smart in healthcare um because it's so smart in healthcare um because it's so smart in healthcare um you know yeah but then there's the over you know yeah but then there's the over you know yeah but then there's the over reliance problem um and and then if the reliance problem um and and then if the reliance problem um and and then if the doctors rely too heavily on the AI then doctors rely too heavily on the AI then doctors rely too heavily on the AI then they themselves just become they themselves just become they themselves just become >> sure it's sort of like doctors or it's >> sure it's sort of like doctors or it's >> sure it's sort of like doctors or it's like lawyers also referring to textbooks like lawyers also referring to textbooks like lawyers also referring to textbooks and things too. I mean it's and things too. I mean it's and things too. I mean it's >> you got to have the person in the middle >> you got to have the person in the middle >> you got to have the person in the middle to to to >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> you know ultimately use their judgment >> you know ultimately use their judgment >> you know ultimately use their judgment and that'll differentiate the great from and that'll differentiate the great from and that'll differentiate the great from the not so great. the not so great. the not so great. >> Yeah. And then you have to you have to >> Yeah. And then you have to you have to >> Yeah. And then you have to you have to you have to still validate the outputs you have to still validate the outputs you have to still validate the outputs and the recommendations, right? I mean, and the recommendations, right? I mean, and the recommendations, right? I mean, you know, the thing is is there is no you know, the thing is is there is no you know, the thing is is there is no way to eliminate the uh hallucinations way to eliminate the uh hallucinations way to eliminate the uh hallucinations and the only reason why the and the only reason why the and the only reason why the hallucinations are so important is hallucinations are so important is hallucinations are so important is because they are the things that can because they are the things that can because they are the things that can make over reliance consequential, right? make over reliance consequential, right? make over reliance consequential, right? Uh it makes us lazy. uh you know we it Uh it makes us lazy. uh you know we it Uh it makes us lazy. uh you know we it introduces errors and with reasoning introduces errors and with reasoning introduces errors and with reasoning models cascading errors and you're models cascading errors and you're models cascading errors and you're hearing more and more about this you hearing more and more about this you hearing more and more about this you know this whole chain of confusion thing know this whole chain of confusion thing know this whole chain of confusion thing that I wrote about I I heard it multiple that I wrote about I I heard it multiple that I wrote about I I heard it multiple times in the past month and these are times in the past month and these are times in the past month and these are just from leading edge practitioners who just from leading edge practitioners who just from leading edge practitioners who actually like I mentioned before who are actually like I mentioned before who are actually like I mentioned before who are trying to make this stuff uh enterprise trying to make this stuff uh enterprise trying to make this stuff uh enterprise and you know telco great blah blah blah and you know telco great blah blah blah and you know telco great blah blah blah um no one no No one's figured out how to um no one no No one's figured out how to um no one no No one's figured out how to make these things um enterprise class or make these things um enterprise class or make these things um enterprise class or industrial class, whatever class, safety industrial class, whatever class, safety industrial class, whatever class, safety class, class, class, >> enterprise grade enterprise.

>> enterprise grade enterprise. >> enterprise grade enterprise. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one has. And >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one has. And >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one has. And and people who say that they figured and people who say that they figured and people who say that they figured out, I mean, prove it, you know? out, I mean, prove it, you know? out, I mean, prove it, you know? >> I mean, how can anyone say they figured >> I mean, how can anyone say they figured >> I mean, how can anyone say they figured it out when they still haven't figured it out when they still haven't figured it out when they still haven't figured the base level out yet? I mean, you the base level out yet? I mean, you the base level out yet? I mean, you know, sure. Are they are these things know, sure. Are they are these things know, sure. Are they are these things improving? I mean, this is my ridiculous improving? I mean, this is my ridiculous improving? I mean, this is my ridiculous perspective, but sure, they're perspective, but sure, they're perspective, but sure, they're improving, but every time I hear we're improving, but every time I hear we're improving, but every time I hear we're going to use it in this and we're going going to use it in this and we're going going to use it in this and we're going to use that, I'm like, for what? to use that, I'm like, for what? to use that, I'm like, for what? >> Can we to the what? Cuz if you tell me >> Can we to the what? Cuz if you tell me >> Can we to the what? Cuz if you tell me you're going what you're going to use it you're going what you're going to use it you're going what you're going to use it for, then now I have a perspective in for, then now I have a perspective in for, then now I have a perspective in terms of how successful you'll be. And terms of how successful you'll be. And terms of how successful you'll be. And it's a trade of the first brain for the it's a trade of the first brain for the it's a trade of the first brain for the second brain. This second brain. This second brain. This >> I'm not giving this up and trading that >> I'm not giving this up and trading that >> I'm not giving this up and trading that to go. to go. to go. >> Sure you are. First, get the hell out of >> Sure you are. First, get the hell out of >> Sure you are. First, get the hell out of dodge. dodge. dodge. >> You must embrace abundance. >> You must embrace abundance. >> You must embrace abundance. >> Abundance of what? >> Abundance of what? >> Abundance of what? >> Whatever. >> Whatever. >> Whatever. >> That's exactly. I have no idea, but >> That's exactly. I have no idea, but >> That's exactly. I have no idea, but apparently abundance is everything. It's apparently abundance is everything. It's apparently abundance is everything. It's going to be the thing that saves going to be the thing that saves going to be the thing that saves humanity and we can do whatever the humanity and we can do whatever the humanity and we can do whatever the freaking hell we want.

freaking hell we want. freaking hell we want. >> I sat there group of people that were >> I sat there group of people that were >> I sat there group of people that were talking about the same thing, right? And talking about the same thing, right? And talking about the same thing, right? And everyone kept saying, you know, I just everyone kept saying, you know, I just everyone kept saying, you know, I just throw it into chat GPT. And I'm like, throw it into chat GPT. And I'm like, throw it into chat GPT. And I'm like, "So, is is Chad GPT the only thing that "So, is is Chad GPT the only thing that "So, is is Chad GPT the only thing that you use?" Well, yeah. Okay. So, you're you use?" Well, yeah. Okay. So, you're you use?" Well, yeah. Okay. So, you're not using multiple tools that are good not using multiple tools that are good not using multiple tools that are good at multiple things? at multiple things? at multiple things? >> Sure. No, but you know, I thought that >> Sure. No, but you know, I thought that >> Sure. No, but you know, I thought that was purity of essence, not abundance. was purity of essence, not abundance. was purity of essence, not abundance. But that's a But that's a But that's a >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> Hey, I got to I got to drop and we're >> Hey, I got to I got to drop and we're >> Hey, I got to I got to drop and we're like seven minutes into this thing. So, like seven minutes into this thing. So, like seven minutes into this thing. So, >> extended play. This is play. This is a >> extended play. This is play. This is a >> extended play. This is play. This is a 12in maxi single that we're playing 12in maxi single that we're playing 12in maxi single that we're playing here. You know the here. You know the here. You know the the the the >> tying it back to the original >> tying it back to the original >> tying it back to the original >> Jelly Be Bonita remix of the song that >> Jelly Be Bonita remix of the song that >> Jelly Be Bonita remix of the song that you liked, you know, from the 80s. you liked, you know, from the 80s. you liked, you know, from the 80s. That's what this is. We've got That's what this is. We've got That's what this is. We've got >> the songs were like 13 and 14 minutes. >> the songs were like 13 and 14 minutes. >> the songs were like 13 and 14 minutes. >> Yes, exactly. >> Yes, exactly. >> Yes, exactly. >> This is a re IoT coffee talk remix. >> This is a re IoT coffee talk remix. >> This is a re IoT coffee talk remix. >> Exactly. Wiki wiki wiki. Yeah. All that.

>> Exactly. Wiki wiki wiki. Yeah. All that. >> Exactly. Wiki wiki wiki. Yeah. All that. Um, wow. You know, next week I will be Um, wow. You know, next week I will be Um, wow. You know, next week I will be in the middle of my drive to Texas. in the middle of my drive to Texas. in the middle of my drive to Texas. >> You know, we're we're moving. The movers >> You know, we're we're moving. The movers >> You know, we're we're moving. The movers come on. Movers come to start packing up come on. Movers come to start packing up come on. Movers come to start packing up and everything next Tuesday. and everything next Tuesday. and everything next Tuesday. >> You sold the house? >> You sold the house? >> You sold the house? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Oh, we're moving. >> Oh, we're moving. >> Oh, we're moving. >> We're moving. Wait, we're Yeah, we're >> We're moving. Wait, we're Yeah, we're >> We're moving. Wait, we're Yeah, we're moving. moving. moving. >> Well, that's exciting. Congratulations. >> Well, that's exciting. Congratulations. >> Well, that's exciting. Congratulations. >> Yeah. Yeah. Scary. >> Yeah. Yeah. Scary. >> Yeah. Yeah. Scary. >> You're moving on up. You're moving on up >> You're moving on up. You're moving on up >> You're moving on up. You're moving on up to the east side. to the east side. to the east side. >> Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what >> Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what >> Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what we're doing. Yes. So, I'm going to be we're doing. Yes. So, I'm going to be we're doing. Yes. So, I'm going to be hanging hanging hanging >> hang out with the Jeffersons. >> hang out with the Jeffersons. >> hang out with the Jeffersons. >> I'm going to come hang out with the >> I'm going to come hang out with the >> I'm going to come hang out with the Jeffersons at Dripping Springs. You Jeffersons at Dripping Springs. You Jeffersons at Dripping Springs. You know, that's exactly what I'm going to know, that's exactly what I'm going to know, that's exactly what I'm going to do because that's where the action is. do because that's where the action is. do because that's where the action is. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> That's cool. New chapters. New chapters. >> That's cool. New chapters. New chapters. >> That's cool. New chapters. New chapters. >> A new chapter. A new chapter. Yes. So, >> A new chapter. A new chapter. Yes. So, >> A new chapter. A new chapter. Yes. So, thanks everyone for joining us on IoT thanks everyone for joining us on IoT thanks everyone for joining us on IoT Coffee Talk today. We talked about a lot Coffee Talk today. We talked about a lot Coffee Talk today. We talked about a lot of stuff that were unrelated to IoT, but of stuff that were unrelated to IoT, but of stuff that were unrelated to IoT, but some, you know, a lot of talk about some, you know, a lot of talk about some, you know, a lot of talk about audio file equipment, AI. You know, audio file equipment, AI. You know, audio file equipment, AI. You know, that's good. We're going to keep talking that's good. We're going to keep talking that's good. We're going to keep talking probably more and more about AI because probably more and more about AI because probably more and more about AI because it just seems to clog the headlines.

it just seems to clog the headlines. it just seems to clog the headlines. Really loud data centers like Colossus Really loud data centers like Colossus Really loud data centers like Colossus from Elon. Um, crazy stuff from Elon. Um, crazy stuff from Elon. Um, crazy stuff always. It's about the kids though, you always. It's about the kids though, you always. It's about the kids though, you know, that's what powers this whole know, that's what powers this whole know, that's what powers this whole deal. you know, we are just the front deal. you know, we are just the front deal. you know, we are just the front end of a of a large charity, you know, end of a of a large charity, you know, end of a of a large charity, you know, that's raising money to bridge the that's raising money to bridge the that's raising money to bridge the digital divide, you know, get get digital divide, you know, get get digital divide, you know, get get computers, connectivity to kids, to computers, connectivity to kids, to computers, connectivity to kids, to families, communities, people in need, families, communities, people in need, families, communities, people in need, you know, when things go wrong, right? you know, when things go wrong, right? you know, when things go wrong, right? And so, uh, we're we're all about that. And so, uh, we're we're all about that. And so, uh, we're we're all about that. Look at those hearts. You must have a Look at those hearts. You must have a Look at those hearts. You must have a Macintosh computer that lets you do Macintosh computer that lets you do Macintosh computer that lets you do that. You know, you can't do that on a that. You know, you can't do that on a that. You know, you can't do that on a Windows computer, even though it says Windows computer, even though it says Windows computer, even though it says you can. I guess I need to maybe I you can. I guess I need to maybe I you can. I guess I need to maybe I should go buy myself an M4 MacBook Pro should go buy myself an M4 MacBook Pro should go buy myself an M4 MacBook Pro or something. Maybe that would make me or something. Maybe that would make me or something. Maybe that would make me better. I don't better. I don't better. I don't >> This is a killer use of an MPU. >> This is a killer use of an MPU. >> This is a killer use of an MPU. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So anyway, you >> Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So anyway, you >> Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So anyway, you guys have a great weekend and good next guys have a great weekend and good next guys have a great weekend and good next week and we'll see you on the other week and we'll see you on the other week and we'll see you on the other side. side. side. [Music] [Music] [Music] >> We are later. >> We are later. >> We are later. [Music]