IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 214 - Brain-sucking Space Bugs

[Music] [Music] still still still leard yeah okay you're hanging out with your yeah okay you're hanging out with your Lenovo Lenovo Lenovo Bros yeah what's up how's everyone doing Bros yeah what's up how's everyone doing Bros yeah what's up how's everyone doing I just woke up I I I feeling no it's it's the summer up I I I feeling no it's it's the summer you wake up a little bit later then and you wake up a little bit later then and you wake up a little bit later then and late last night I'm flipping through the late last night I'm flipping through the late last night I'm flipping through the channels do we still call it that anyway channels do we still call it that anyway channels do we still call it that anyway and yeah Starship Troopers was on and so and yeah Starship Troopers was on and so and yeah Starship Troopers was on and so I just decided to watch Starship I just decided to watch Starship I just decided to watch Starship Troopers late last night oh what's going Troopers late last night oh what's going Troopers late last night oh what's going on Rob you need a little bit of a of on Rob you need a little bit of a of on Rob you need a little bit of a of mental support or mental support or mental support or yeah what can we do to help for what can yeah what can we do to help for what can yeah what can we do to help for what can we do I love that movie that movie is so we do I love that movie that movie is so we do I love that movie that movie is so funny and bizarre and sarcastic and funny and bizarre and sarcastic and funny and bizarre and sarcastic and strange well you know it does have strange well you know it does have strange well you know it does have Denise Richards in there so I I watched Denise Richards in there so I I watched Denise Richards in there so I I watched Chainsaw Massacre last night that was Chainsaw Massacre last night that was Chainsaw Massacre last night that was good for you good for you well you know good for you good for you well you know good for you good for you well you know my my therapy is killer clowns from out my my therapy is killer clowns from out my my therapy is killer clowns from out of space Oh Yeah yeah when I feel bad I of space Oh Yeah yeah when I feel bad I of space Oh Yeah yeah when I feel bad I just put it on or hackers yeah hey just put it on or hackers yeah hey just put it on or hackers yeah hey Godzilla minus um is it minus zero one Godzilla minus um is it minus zero one Godzilla minus um is it minus zero one minus one yeah yeah finally finally out minus one yeah yeah finally finally out minus one yeah yeah finally finally out I know is it awesome here I am watching

I know is it awesome here I am watching I know is it awesome here I am watching bridon and Game of Thrones and you guys bridon and Game of Thrones and you guys bridon and Game of Thrones and you guys are watching Bridgton Bridgerton yeah are watching Bridgton Bridgerton yeah are watching Bridgton Bridgerton yeah yeah too by the way happy juneth yeah too by the way happy juneth yeah too by the way happy juneth everyone that's right yeah holiday yeah everyone that's right yeah holiday yeah everyone that's right yeah holiday yeah goston a Texas holiday that made it goston a Texas holiday that made it goston a Texas holiday that made it nationwide recently that's right it's a nationwide recently that's right it's a nationwide recently that's right it's a Federal holiday right I don't know how I Federal holiday right I don't know how I Federal holiday right I don't know how I don't know who or how or what where don't know who or how or what where don't know who or how or what where someone outside of Texas discovered this someone outside of Texas discovered this someone outside of Texas discovered this holiday and said oh this is the thing holiday and said oh this is the thing holiday and said oh this is the thing and maybe we should take it because yeah and maybe we should take it because yeah and maybe we should take it because yeah it's always been a thing in Texas um you it's always been a thing in Texas um you it's always been a thing in Texas um you know and there's that customs house know and there's that customs house know and there's that customs house there in there in there in galvaston just to recap for all kids galvaston just to recap for all kids galvaston just to recap for all kids wondering what the strange name juneth wondering what the strange name juneth wondering what the strange name juneth means CU you know you know there's the means CU you know you know there's the means CU you know you know there's the uh you know President Lincoln did the uh you know President Lincoln did the uh you know President Lincoln did the Emancipation Proclamation and freed the Emancipation Proclamation and freed the Emancipation Proclamation and freed the slaves but we didn't have the internet slaves but we didn't have the internet slaves but we didn't have the internet back then or cell phones or even back then or cell phones or even back then or cell phones or even sometimes the Pony Express with Kevin sometimes the Pony Express with Kevin sometimes the Pony Express with Kevin Cosner R going across America as the Cosner R going across America as the Cosner R going across America as the postman and so it took longer and then postman and so it took longer and then postman and so it took longer and then of course there may have been some of course there may have been some of course there may have been some people who were trying to prevent word people who were trying to prevent word people who were trying to prevent word spreading too fast you know and so what spreading too fast you know and so what spreading too fast you know and so what this celebrates and it's an odd thing to this celebrates and it's an odd thing to this celebrates and it's an odd thing to say celebrate because it's kind of say celebrate because it's kind of say celebrate because it's kind of delayed is this is how long it took it delayed is this is how long it took it delayed is this is how long it took it was like what a couple years Stephanie was like what a couple years Stephanie was like what a couple years Stephanie or something after the Emancipation or something after the Emancipation or something after the Emancipation Proclamation it was where word got to Proclamation it was where word got to Proclamation it was where word got to the farthest reach Western reaches of the farthest reach Western reaches of the farthest reach Western reaches of the United States and they buy ship to

the United States and they buy ship to the United States and they buy ship to galvaston Texas and they came to the galvaston Texas and they came to the galvaston Texas and they came to the customs house and let the people in customs house and let the people in customs house and let the people in Texas know that the slaves have been Texas know that the slaves have been Texas know that the slaves have been freed and so yeah they they didn't have freed and so yeah they they didn't have freed and so yeah they they didn't have that great bridge going across to get that great bridge going across to get that great bridge going across to get to well you know it it gives new meaning to well you know it it gives new meaning to well you know it it gives new meaning to you didn't get the memo yeah it was a to you didn't get the memo yeah it was a to you didn't get the memo yeah it was a delayed memo delayed memo delayed memo yeah what happened to the pigeons you yeah what happened to the pigeons you yeah what happened to the pigeons you know yeah or the or the know yeah or the or the know yeah or the or the Ravens Ravens yeah Ravens yeah you mean Ravens Ravens yeah Ravens yeah you mean Ravens Ravens yeah Ravens yeah you mean there were people trying to do there were people trying to do there were people trying to do censorship at that time too so yeah censorship at that time too so yeah censorship at that time too so yeah could be changed yeah yeah but it's it's could be changed yeah yeah but it's it's could be changed yeah yeah but it's it's it's history you don't want to repeat it's history you don't want to repeat it's history you don't want to repeat history and so that's why we learn about history and so that's why we learn about history and so that's why we learn about it and know about it and talk about it it and know about it and talk about it it and know about it and talk about it the bad parts of History right all the the bad parts of History right all the the bad parts of History right all the good stuff we want to repeat and make it good stuff we want to repeat and make it good stuff we want to repeat and make it a thing so is that like reinforcement a thing so is that like reinforcement a thing so is that like reinforcement learning exactly okay okay well I'm learning exactly okay okay well I'm learning exactly okay okay well I'm pretty I mean I know the banks and it's pretty I mean I know the banks and it's pretty I mean I know the banks and it's a Federal holiday but a lot of colleges a Federal holiday but a lot of colleges a Federal holiday but a lot of colleges are closed and are closed and are closed and so you know it's funny some businesses so you know it's funny some businesses so you know it's funny some businesses are still um open today for some of us are still um open today for some of us are still um open today for some of us who are way out here in the far reaches who are way out here in the far reaches who are way out here in the far reaches of the realm of the realm of the realm Stephanie um where where since you're in Stephanie um where where since you're in Stephanie um where where since you're in the Game of Thrones mood and um where the Game of Thrones mood and um where the Game of Thrones mood and um where we're the kids are still in school until we're the kids are still in school until we're the kids are still in school until the end of this week so but there's a the end of this week so but there's a the end of this week so but there's a holiday today even though Friday is the

holiday today even though Friday is the holiday today even though Friday is the last day of school way out here I cannot last day of school way out here I cannot last day of school way out here I cannot believe that that school is still going believe that that school is still going believe that that school is still going on it's I know I know it's weird the on it's I know I know it's weird the on it's I know I know it's weird the rest of the country is been out of rest of the country is been out of rest of the country is been out of school since May or whatever sometime uh school since May or whatever sometime uh school since May or whatever sometime uh so yeah that's that's kind of a thing so so yeah that's that's kind of a thing so so yeah that's that's kind of a thing so Leonard you're hanging out at a Lenova Leonard you're hanging out at a Lenova Leonard you're hanging out at a Lenova event is that event is that event is that right yeah everyone's heard about aipc right yeah everyone's heard about aipc right yeah everyone's heard about aipc and all those pilot plus stuff pilot and all those pilot plus stuff pilot and all those pilot plus stuff pilot plus PC so I flew myself out here plus PC so I flew myself out here plus PC so I flew myself out here staying in a really cool hotel here in staying in a really cool hotel here in staying in a really cool hotel here in Tribeca cool always love Tribeca cool always love Tribeca cool always love Tribeca you have a you get a direct Tribeca you have a you get a direct Tribeca you have a you get a direct flight from flight from flight from do you have a direct FL from California do you have a direct FL from California do you have a direct FL from California straight San Diego yeah into New York on straight San Diego yeah into New York on straight San Diego yeah into New York on United freaking awesome love it so um United freaking awesome love it so um United freaking awesome love it so um and then you know I went I I you know I and then you know I went I I you know I and then you know I went I I you know I took the train in I I didn't Pi a limo took the train in I I didn't Pi a limo took the train in I I didn't Pi a limo or any that spec I I did it you know I or any that spec I I did it you know I or any that spec I I did it you know I lived like a New Yorker andway it's so convenient I love I love andway it's so convenient I love I love the trains highly underrated it's the trains highly underrated it's the trains highly underrated it's actually more convenient than find a actually more convenient than find a actually more convenient than find a Hala oh yeah taking an Uber cab um yeah Hala oh yeah taking an Uber cab um yeah Hala oh yeah taking an Uber cab um yeah from the airport yeah makes no sense and from the airport yeah makes no sense and from the airport yeah makes no sense and cost like 120 bucks or some ridiculous cost like 120 bucks or some ridiculous cost like 120 bucks or some ridiculous amount and you're stuck in traffic right amount and you're stuck in traffic right amount and you're stuck in traffic right did you fly into the new and improved did you fly into the new and improved did you fly into the new and improved lagoria lagoria lagoria airport no

airport no airport no newr good old EWR yeah but um yeah I newr good old EWR yeah but um yeah I newr good old EWR yeah but um yeah I came out here because I wanted to get a came out here because I wanted to get a came out here because I wanted to get a sense of what the launch would look like sense of what the launch would look like sense of what the launch would look like obviously Paul's a very close partner obviously Paul's a very close partner obviously Paul's a very close partner with lovo and renovo has been um with lovo and renovo has been um with lovo and renovo has been um pioneering a lot of stuff on top of pioneering a lot of stuff on top of pioneering a lot of stuff on top of pom's PC silicon for quite some time pom's PC silicon for quite some time pom's PC silicon for quite some time yeah and um yeah it was a big moment for yeah and um yeah it was a big moment for yeah and um yeah it was a big moment for both of those companies and you know both of those companies and you know both of those companies and you know obviously Microsoft obviously Microsoft obviously Microsoft is in there and um I went and I visited is in there and um I went and I visited is in there and um I went and I visited the um the flat iron Best Buy so the big the um the flat iron Best Buy so the big the um the flat iron Best Buy so the big go to market need splashes that Best go to market need splashes that Best go to market need splashes that Best Buy Buy Buy putting Snapdragon putting Snapdragon putting Snapdragon at front and center W pilot stuff which at front and center W pilot stuff which at front and center W pilot stuff which um yeah I mean you um yeah I mean you um yeah I mean you know I never really tried the profile know I never really tried the profile know I never really tried the profile plus stuff and let's put it this way I'm plus stuff and let's put it this way I'm plus stuff and let's put it this way I'm not exactly not exactly not exactly impressed um the recall thing they impressed um the recall thing they impressed um the recall thing they they're delaying it Total Recall yeah they're delaying it Total Recall yeah they're delaying it Total Recall yeah Total Recall they're delaying it because Total Recall they're delaying it because Total Recall they're delaying it because of coffee of coffee of coffee talk there you go kind of creepy right talk there you go kind of creepy right talk there you go kind of creepy right we kind of called it but we said look we kind of called it but we said look we kind of called it but we said look these guys are this doesn't this looks these guys are this doesn't this looks these guys are this doesn't this looks kind of freaking creepy and right wow kind of freaking creepy and right wow kind of freaking creepy and right wow are they really secing this thing it are they really secing this thing it are they really secing this thing it turns out they didn't so hey it's on you turns out they didn't so hey it's on you turns out they didn't so hey it's on you guys don't hate on

guys don't hate on guys don't hate on us we were seeing in the intro that rovo us we were seeing in the intro that rovo us we were seeing in the intro that rovo has you know reputation of being the has you know reputation of being the has you know reputation of being the Workhorse for for Workforce in Workhorse for for Workforce in Workhorse for for Workforce in Enterprises this is the feature you want Enterprises this is the feature you want Enterprises this is the feature you want to be careful in Enterprises defin to be careful in Enterprises defin to be careful in Enterprises defin yeah there' have to be all sorts of yeah there' have to be all sorts of yeah there' have to be all sorts of corporate controls on it you know yeah corporate controls on it you know yeah corporate controls on it you know yeah yeah yeah but we also brought up that it yeah yeah but we also brought up that it yeah yeah but we also brought up that it could be it could be used for knowledge could be it could be used for knowledge could be it could be used for knowledge harvesting right I mean it is a creepy harvesting right I mean it is a creepy harvesting right I mean it is a creepy way of doing it but there could probably way of doing it but there could probably way of doing it but there could probably be certain roles or certain enter be certain roles or certain enter be certain roles or certain enter organizations that actually Apple wise organizations that actually Apple wise organizations that actually Apple wise on it right yeah um because you know I I on it right yeah um because you know I I on it right yeah um because you know I I used to do a lot of Knowledge Management used to do a lot of Knowledge Management used to do a lot of Knowledge Management type Consulting work and man it is hard type Consulting work and man it is hard type Consulting work and man it is hard to harvest to harvest to harvest knowledge and um you lose it and when knowledge and um you lose it and when knowledge and um you lose it and when the people brought up several times how the people brought up several times how the people brought up several times how you have yeah this uh this experience you have yeah this uh this experience you have yeah this uh this experience and knowledge drain in in the oil and and knowledge drain in in the oil and and knowledge drain in in the oil and gas industry gas industry gas industry right about a decade ago it was right about a decade ago it was right about a decade ago it was big concern amongst oil and gas big concern amongst oil and gas big concern amongst oil and gas companies and I don't know this creepy companies and I don't know this creepy companies and I don't know this creepy technology kind of be a way but I I I technology kind of be a way but I I I technology kind of be a way but I I I would imagine they would only apply in would imagine they would only apply in would imagine they would only apply in certain roles you wouldn't every big certain roles you wouldn't every big certain roles you wouldn't every big company has the every big company has to company has the every big company has to company has the every big company has to deal with stuff that the term is called deal with stuff that the term is called deal with stuff that the term is called company memory um and as you lay off company memory um and as you lay off company memory um and as you lay off lots of people who've been around who lots of people who've been around who lots of people who've been around who helped build the company and all you helped build the company and all you helped build the company and all you have is the newbies left you sometimes

have is the newbies left you sometimes have is the newbies left you sometimes might lose the soul of the company that might lose the soul of the company that might lose the soul of the company that being said the term knowledge harvesting being said the term knowledge harvesting being said the term knowledge harvesting if I take us all the way back to late if I take us all the way back to late if I take us all the way back to late last night watching Starship Troopers last night watching Starship Troopers last night watching Starship Troopers you might remember the brain bug that you might remember the brain bug that you might remember the brain bug that came out towards the end and it like came out towards the end and it like came out towards the end and it like Jabs right into the guy's head it grabs Jabs right into the guy's head it grabs Jabs right into the guy's head it grabs sucks out their brain that's knowledge sucks out their brain that's knowledge sucks out their brain that's knowledge harvesting and so when everybody thinks harvesting and so when everybody thinks harvesting and so when everybody thinks of knowledge harvesting that in the next of knowledge harvesting that in the next of knowledge harvesting that in the next commercial for co-pilot PC Plus is the commercial for co-pilot PC Plus is the commercial for co-pilot PC Plus is the brain buug think of the brain bug brain buug think of the brain bug brain buug think of the brain bug sucking out a person's brain you should sucking out a person's brain you should sucking out a person's brain you should you should send a check to Microsoft you should send a check to Microsoft you should send a check to Microsoft it's it's there you go I I don't think it's it's there you go I I don't think it's it's there you go I I don't think they need to hire an agency now it's they need to hire an agency now it's they need to hire an agency now it's just uh yeah it's the story tells itself just uh yeah it's the story tells itself just uh yeah it's the story tells itself just tell that to to some AI to generate just tell that to to some AI to generate just tell that to to some AI to generate the video automatically you get your add the video automatically you get your add the video automatically you get your add yes I was going to say soul harvesting yes I was going to say soul harvesting yes I was going to say soul harvesting Soul harvesting sounds worse but you Soul harvesting sounds worse but you Soul harvesting sounds worse but you know bad enough also something yesterday know bad enough also something yesterday know bad enough also something yesterday happened in media that gave some love to happened in media that gave some love to happened in media that gave some love to Lenovo actually in fact I'm surprised he Lenovo actually in fact I'm surprised he Lenovo actually in fact I'm surprised he didn't get paid so there I was doing my didn't get paid so there I was doing my didn't get paid so there I was doing my walk and I'm listening to Joe Rogan's walk and I'm listening to Joe Rogan's walk and I'm listening to Joe Rogan's latest podcast where he's talking to ex latest podcast where he's talking to ex latest podcast where he's talking to ex Navy SEAL and author Jack Carr uh I Navy SEAL and author Jack Carr uh I Navy SEAL and author Jack Carr uh I don't know if you've read any of his don't know if you've read any of his don't know if you've read any of his books but some of his books have been books but some of his books have been books but some of his books have been turned into TV series on Amazon uh the turned into TV series on Amazon uh the turned into TV series on Amazon uh the terminal list um you know anyway they're terminal list um you know anyway they're terminal list um you know anyway they're talking and he's talking about right and talking and he's talking about right and talking and he's talking about right and and Joe Rogan's like so are you still do

and Joe Rogan's like so are you still do and Joe Rogan's like so are you still do you still use a laptop to do all your you still use a laptop to do all your you still use a laptop to do all your wrting you know cuz the guy spend all wrting you know cuz the guy spend all wrting you know cuz the guy spend all he's writing a book a year you know and he's writing a book a year you know and he's writing a book a year you know and he goes yeah he goes yeah I got a he goes yeah he goes yeah I got a he goes yeah he goes yeah I got a MacBook Pro or whatever and Rogan goes MacBook Pro or whatever and Rogan goes MacBook Pro or whatever and Rogan goes you need to get off of that thing right you need to get off of that thing right you need to get off of that thing right away he goes he goes it's all about the away he goes he goes it's all about the away he goes he goes it's all about the keyboard he goes those apple keyboards keyboard he goes those apple keyboards keyboard he goes those apple keyboards are crap and Carr's like what are you are crap and Carr's like what are you are crap and Carr's like what are you talking about I'm a I'm a Mac guy he talking about I'm a I'm a Mac guy he talking about I'm a I'm a Mac guy he goes well you'll just have to adjust he goes well you'll just have to adjust he goes well you'll just have to adjust he goes the best keyboards in the world goes the best keyboards in the world goes the best keyboards in the world come from the come from the come from the ThinkPad and he goes there's the guys at ThinkPad and he goes there's the guys at ThinkPad and he goes there's the guys at Lenovo you might remember at IBM and Lenovo you might remember at IBM and Lenovo you might remember at IBM and then he proceeds to talk about how the then he proceeds to talk about how the then he proceeds to talk about how the ThinkPad tries to mimic the old you know ThinkPad tries to mimic the old you know ThinkPad tries to mimic the old you know the classic IBM keyboards that go all the classic IBM keyboards that go all the classic IBM keyboards that go all the way back to the electric typewriters the way back to the electric typewriters the way back to the electric typewriters and he's talking about travel and how and he's talking about travel and how and he's talking about travel and how many more millimeters of travel you have many more millimeters of travel you have many more millimeters of travel you have on a ThinkPad uh when you're pressing on a ThinkPad uh when you're pressing on a ThinkPad uh when you're pressing the keys versus a Macbook it was the keys versus a Macbook it was the keys versus a Macbook it was hilarious I was like sounds like hilarious I was like sounds like hilarious I was like sounds like somebody in Lenovo needs to get a somebody in Lenovo needs to get a somebody in Lenovo needs to get a promotion whoever's in their Market yeah promotion whoever's in their Market yeah promotion whoever's in their Market yeah I was like did is this a paid I was like did is this a paid I was like did is this a paid advertisement is this product placement advertisement is this product placement advertisement is this product placement where he's should he was basically where he's should he was basically where he's should he was basically pitching insert personal experience here pitching insert personal experience here pitching insert personal experience here you know yeah and so he's telling a you know yeah and so he's telling a you know yeah and so he's telling a major author to switch to a ThinkPad major author to switch to a ThinkPad major author to switch to a ThinkPad because it's got a better keyboard so because it's got a better keyboard so because it's got a better keyboard so well I mean you know they make a big well I mean you know they make a big well I mean you know they make a big deal out of it keyboard it is a good deal out of it keyboard it is a good deal out of it keyboard it is a good keyboard by the way Lenovo I I actually keyboard by the way Lenovo I I actually keyboard by the way Lenovo I I actually I've always been a fan they they were I've always been a fan they they were I've always been a fan they they were actually one of the first to build as actually one of the first to build as actually one of the first to build as Leonard knows the windows on Snapdragon Leonard knows the windows on Snapdragon Leonard knows the windows on Snapdragon laptop back in 2018 I think they were laptop back in 2018 I think they were laptop back in 2018 I think they were the first one of the first out of the the first one of the first out of the the first one of the first out of the shoot they've always been Innovative and shoot they've always been Innovative and shoot they've always been Innovative and they've combined that with the old link

they've combined that with the old link they've combined that with the old link pad red red eraser button stuff you know pad red red eraser button stuff you know pad red red eraser button stuff you know so it's kind of a good mix of like so it's kind of a good mix of like so it's kind of a good mix of like Cutting Edge and kind of tried and true Cutting Edge and kind of tried and true Cutting Edge and kind of tried and true classic stuff so classic stuff so classic stuff so yeah for those of us old enough there yeah for those of us old enough there yeah for those of us old enough there was actually one exception in this kind was actually one exception in this kind was actually one exception in this kind of magical great keyboards from ThinkPad of magical great keyboards from ThinkPad of magical great keyboards from ThinkPad was the butterfly butterfly oh it was was the butterfly butterfly oh it was was the butterfly butterfly oh it was opening it was actually pretty crap opening it was actually pretty crap opening it was actually pretty crap because since it was cutting two pieces because since it was cutting two pieces because since it was cutting two pieces in the middle it would actually Bend in the middle it would actually Bend in the middle it would actually Bend when you typed on it Flex on it FX on it when you typed on it Flex on it FX on it when you typed on it Flex on it FX on it it was that phone we saw Rob on our it was that phone we saw Rob on our it was that phone we saw Rob on our latest episode of Windows Phone WTF it latest episode of Windows Phone WTF it latest episode of Windows Phone WTF it was like a it phone that had a keyboard was like a it phone that had a keyboard was like a it phone that had a keyboard that open this way it was Sierra that open this way it was Sierra that open this way it was Sierra Wireless made iter Wireless and it was Wireless made iter Wireless and it was Wireless made iter Wireless and it was like a little extra piece that folded like a little extra piece that folded like a little extra piece that folded out and you would type on it but it made out and you would type on it but it made out and you would type on it but it made no sense like balance was way of so as I no sense like balance was way of so as I no sense like balance was way of so as I probably shared before and I could bring probably shared before and I could bring probably shared before and I could bring it live in the studio here I do have IBM it live in the studio here I do have IBM it live in the studio here I do have IBM Thinkpad butterfly um yeah and it's and Thinkpad butterfly um yeah and it's and Thinkpad butterfly um yeah and it's and it still boots up up it still boots up up it still boots up up os2 and the keyboard works like a champ os2 and the keyboard works like a champ os2 and the keyboard works like a champ I remember them talking about how they I remember them talking about how they I remember them talking about how they test had machines testing the keyboard test had machines testing the keyboard test had machines testing the keyboard opening and closing it like a million opening and closing it like a million opening and closing it like a million times or something um but that was a times or something um but that was a times or something um but that was a thing they people were still thinking a thing they people were still thinking a thing they people were still thinking a a laptop needed to be a certain size we a laptop needed to be a certain size we a laptop needed to be a certain size we hadn't got to this point where we just hadn't got to this point where we just hadn't got to this point where we just said who cares and have wide laptops said who cares and have wide laptops said who cares and have wide laptops right wide screens there was this notion right wide screens there was this notion right wide screens there was this notion it could needs to be this big and the it could needs to be this big and the it could needs to be this big and the keyboard would be bigger it was almost keyboard would be bigger it was almost keyboard would be bigger it was almost like the closing play record player for

like the closing play record player for like the closing play record player for you kids out there you know open it you kids out there you know open it you kids out there you know open it anyway a lot of trivia I have an anyway a lot of trivia I have an anyway a lot of trivia I have an anecdote on that because I was based in anecdote on that because I was based in anecdote on that because I was based in the UK at that time and I think when it the UK at that time and I think when it the UK at that time and I think when it was launch I was doing a trip to the US was launch I was doing a trip to the US was launch I was doing a trip to the US so my boss sent me to Comp USA to buy so my boss sent me to Comp USA to buy so my boss sent me to Comp USA to buy two of these and brings them back to the two of these and brings them back to the two of these and brings them back to the UK because they were just out yeah so I UK because they were just out yeah so I UK because they were just out yeah so I carried a couple across the Atlantic oh carried a couple across the Atlantic oh carried a couple across the Atlantic oh wow that's impressive the the type of wow that's impressive the the type of wow that's impressive the the type of engineering this kind of human factors engineering this kind of human factors engineering this kind of human factors engineer if you ever work with folks engineer if you ever work with folks engineer if you ever work with folks that design these kind of keyboards and that design these kind of keyboards and that design these kind of keyboards and other things that interact with humans other things that interact with humans other things that interact with humans it's a really interesting specialty for it's a really interesting specialty for it's a really interesting specialty for design and Engineering so turns out we design and Engineering so turns out we design and Engineering so turns out we humans are kind of like pretty humans are kind of like pretty humans are kind of like pretty consistently human in in our shape and consistently human in in our shape and consistently human in in our shape and form and so kind of contorting form and so kind of contorting form and so kind of contorting technology to work with humans and eyes technology to work with humans and eyes technology to work with humans and eyes and hands and ears and stuff is kind of and hands and ears and stuff is kind of and hands and ears and stuff is kind of a big deal so and it'll always be a big a big deal so and it'll always be a big a big deal so and it'll always be a big deal so yeah people that are in that deal so yeah people that are in that deal so yeah people that are in that space it's very specialized talking space it's very specialized talking space it's very specialized talking about design look at what came in the ma about design look at what came in the ma about design look at what came in the ma today or yesterday got the the rabbit today or yesterday got the the rabbit today or yesterday got the the rabbit the rabbit thing wow does it the rabbit thing wow does it the rabbit thing wow does it work bger than a smartphone does it work work bger than a smartphone does it work work bger than a smartphone does it work that is a good question my first that is a good question my first that is a good question my first impression is not very good uh I didn't impression is not very good uh I didn't impression is not very good uh I didn't have a lot of time but I tried yesterday have a lot of time but I tried yesterday have a lot of time but I tried yesterday and uh when I when it came in and uh and and uh when I when it came in and uh and and uh when I when it came in and uh and the problem is that you because you only the problem is that you because you only the problem is that you because you only interact with voice the thing doesn't interact with voice the thing doesn't interact with voice the thing doesn't necessarily acknowledge when he's got necessarily acknowledge when he's got necessarily acknowledge when he's got something or not and it's super slow oh something or not and it's super slow oh something or not and it's super slow oh no really really bad now I try that like no really really bad now I try that like no really really bad now I try that like when Rob was watching his movie last

when Rob was watching his movie last when Rob was watching his movie last night and it was much better so I don't night and it was much better so I don't night and it was much better so I don't know how much they pay open AI but maybe know how much they pay open AI but maybe know how much they pay open AI but maybe the API throughput during the day is not the API throughput during the day is not the API throughput during the day is not so good so get rate on the yeah I have so good so get rate on the yeah I have so good so get rate on the yeah I have to work the thing is that it has this to work the thing is that it has this to work the thing is that it has this kind of rolling wheel thing interface kind of rolling wheel thing interface kind of rolling wheel thing interface which it's actually in theory a good which it's actually in theory a good which it's actually in theory a good idea that's why I was thinking what you idea that's why I was thinking what you idea that's why I was thinking what you were saying pit the problem is that were saying pit the problem is that were saying pit the problem is that because when it's flat they don't want because when it's flat they don't want because when it's flat they don't want it to roll they actually made it pretty it to roll they actually made it pretty it to roll they actually made it pretty it's pretty diff to rotate so the it's pretty diff to rotate so the it's pretty diff to rotate so the feeling is really very so it's a little feeling is really very so it's a little feeling is really very so it's a little sticky yeah it sticky yeah it sticky yeah it is so the jury is out I'm going to try is so the jury is out I'm going to try is so the jury is out I'm going to try to play with it in the coming days may to play with it in the coming days may to play with it in the coming days may we talk it's a really interesting form we talk it's a really interesting form we talk it's a really interesting form factor though I mean well are you factor though I mean well are you factor though I mean well are you supposed to talk to it it's supp push to supposed to talk to it it's supp push to supposed to talk to it it's supp push to top supposed yeah but it's almost like top supposed yeah but it's almost like top supposed yeah but it's almost like pretty wide to be pocketable even like pretty wide to be pocketable even like pretty wide to be pocketable even like yeah it's demri Demetri's pocket has been it's demri Demetri's pocket has been expanded over the years from the pocket expanded over the years from the pocket expanded over the years from the pocket protector that he hats in there and so protector that he hats in there and so protector that he hats in there and so it should it custom custom shirts I I it should it custom custom shirts I I it should it custom custom shirts I I used to wear those kind of blouse but I used to wear those kind of blouse but I used to wear those kind of blouse but I didn't hand the the pen protector but didn't hand the the pen protector but didn't hand the the pen protector but you you need to a blouse boy that yeah you you need to a blouse boy that yeah you you need to a blouse boy that yeah you need to look like you work for NASA you need to look like you work for NASA you need to look like you work for NASA in the 60s you know well I did that when in the 60s you know well I did that when in the 60s you know well I did that when I was a student because it was very I was a student because it was very I was a student because it was very convenient to put stuff in your pocket convenient to put stuff in your pocket convenient to put stuff in your pocket and I have a funny stupid story but the and I have a funny stupid story but the and I have a funny stupid story but the but the the camp well not the campus the but the the camp well not the campus the but the the camp well not the campus the school I I Was preparing for engineer school I I Was preparing for engineer school I I Was preparing for engineer School the you have I was a board it's

School the you have I was a board it's School the you have I was a board it's boarding school and the mirrors were all boarding school and the mirrors were all boarding school and the mirrors were all full like we're getting spinach when full like we're getting spinach when full like we're getting spinach when they were cutting the grass and and we they were cutting the grass and and we they were cutting the grass and and we all we were all convinced that we were all we were all convinced that we were all we were all convinced that we were eating the grass but the on the table eating the grass but the on the table eating the grass but the on the table you had salt and pepper but that pepper you had salt and pepper but that pepper you had salt and pepper but that pepper was so bad I was always carrying your was so bad I was always carrying your was so bad I was always carrying your owner pepper yeah for lunch own spices owner pepper yeah for lunch own spices owner pepper yeah for lunch own spices yeah so I had my spices in my pocket in yeah so I had my spices in my pocket in yeah so I had my spices in my pocket in my in my left pocket and my my pens in my in my left pocket and my my pens in my in my left pocket and my my pens in my front buckets oh my gosh so it's like my front buckets oh my gosh so it's like my front buckets oh my gosh so it's like basically Demitri before before going to basically Demitri before before going to basically Demitri before before going to school every day he drops by galleries school every day he drops by galleries school every day he drops by galleries Lafayette and Par and goes to that third Lafayette and Par and goes to that third Lafayette and Par and goes to that third floor and all the spices are there you floor and all the spices are there you floor and all the spices are there you know and he we we all do that in know and he we we all do that in know and he we we all do that in FRS everyone every French person does FRS everyone every French person does FRS everyone every French person does that and they fill their pockets with that and they fill their pockets with that and they fill their pockets with spices and then go to school to have spices and then go to school to have spices and then go to school to have their GRL that they have to eat um and their GRL that they have to eat um and their GRL that they have to eat um and and spice it up so and spice it up so and spice it up so in the states we carry our tahen around in the states we carry our tahen around in the states we carry our tahen around yeah little Tabasco yeah I'm expecting yeah little Tabasco yeah I'm expecting yeah little Tabasco yeah I'm expecting yeah I'm looking forward to Dimitri's yeah I'm looking forward to Dimitri's yeah I'm looking forward to Dimitri's full product review of the rabbit full product review of the rabbit full product review of the rabbit yeah so I reminds me of is it strictly yeah so I reminds me of is it strictly yeah so I reminds me of is it strictly um enhanced push to talk over the top or um enhanced push to talk over the top or um enhanced push to talk over the top or what's it running the way it works what's it running the way it works what's it running the way it works apparently you you push the button and apparently you you push the button and apparently you you push the button and you start you press long press you start you start you press long press you start you start you press long press you start talking to it and you ask questions or talking to it and you ask questions or talking to it and you ask questions or you can also turn on the camera so if you can also turn on the camera so if you can also turn on the camera so if you double click it opens the camera and you double click it opens the camera and you double click it opens the camera and you can now see me through the camera you can now see me through the camera you can now see me through the camera the little camera and then it's a weird

the little camera and then it's a weird the little camera and then it's a weird thing because you have to push and hold thing because you have to push and hold thing because you have to push and hold ask your question and then release and ask your question and then release and ask your question and then release and then it takes a picture and then it's then it takes a picture and then it's then it takes a picture and then it's try to answer the question about the try to answer the question about the try to answer the question about the picture so it's weirdo type of interface picture so it's weirdo type of interface picture so it's weirdo type of interface I'm I'm I'm still interesting yeah I mean I was also still interesting yeah I mean I was also still interesting yeah I mean I was also thinking the other day about the Humane thinking the other day about the Humane thinking the other day about the Humane AI pin and how that's doing as yeah lot AI pin and how that's doing as yeah lot AI pin and how that's doing as yeah lot of people compare those two so oh yeah of people compare those two so oh yeah of people compare those two so oh yeah yeah haven't heard much about that I got yeah haven't heard much about that I got yeah haven't heard much about that I got to see that when I was at that Qualcomm to see that when I was at that Qualcomm to see that when I was at that Qualcomm event um when they were hosting all of event um when they were hosting all of event um when they were hosting all of their Partners yeah wow and we got Bill their Partners yeah wow and we got Bill their Partners yeah wow and we got Bill there he is oh my god really bill is in there he is oh my god really bill is in there he is oh my god really bill is in the house what's up man it's been a the house what's up man it's been a the house what's up man it's been a while wow we haven't seen you or while wow we haven't seen you or while wow we haven't seen you or Stephanie in a long time it's good to Stephanie in a long time it's good to Stephanie in a long time it's good to have you guys back and you know Rick have you guys back and you know Rick have you guys back and you know Rick balat is supposed to be on yeah what balat is supposed to be on yeah what balat is supposed to be on yeah what happened like how he know he was going happened like how he know he was going happened like how he know he was going to be on was it like a sneak peek did he to be on was it like a sneak peek did he to be on was it like a sneak peek did he say he said he was going to be on he was say he said he was going to be on he was say he said he was going to be on he was back channeling me getting all pissed back channeling me getting all pissed back channeling me getting all pissed off at Apple for off at Apple for off at Apple for releasing app or doing stuff with open releasing app or doing stuff with open releasing app or doing stuff with open AI so he pulled the Elon Musk AI so he pulled the Elon Musk AI so he pulled the Elon Musk yeah a when he gets passionate or yeah a when he gets passionate or yeah a when he gets passionate or hotheaded about an issue that's when he hotheaded about an issue that's when he hotheaded about an issue that's when he acts like he's gonna come on and then he acts like he's gonna come on and then he acts like he's gonna come on and then he doesn't come on well I thought I thought doesn't come on well I thought I thought doesn't come on well I thought I thought yeah this was going to be his smack yeah this was going to be his smack yeah this was going to be his smack talking episode I know we left out a talking episode I know we left out a talking episode I know we left out a play cookies for him and so I was hoping play cookies for him and so I was hoping play cookies for him and so I was hoping he was going to show up you know come on he was going to show up you know come on he was going to show up you know come on yeah and the mar so anxious he he was in

yeah and the mar so anxious he he was in yeah and the mar so anxious he he was in distress that he had to miss this distress that he had to miss this distress that he had to miss this episode because Rick B was GNA be on and episode because Rick B was GNA be on and episode because Rick B was GNA be on and then sure enough Rick doesn't show then sure enough Rick doesn't show then sure enough Rick doesn't show up so but anyways really quickly our up so but anyways really quickly our up so but anyways really quickly our disclaimer hey everybody thanks for disclaimer hey everybody thanks for disclaimer hey everybody thanks for joining us I know we're in the midpoint joining us I know we're in the midpoint joining us I know we're in the midpoint of our rants here but please take a of our rants here but please take a of our rants here but please take a seriously at your own risk we're like an seriously at your own risk we're like an seriously at your own risk we're like an mpu we are offloading the risk onto you mpu we are offloading the risk onto you mpu we are offloading the risk onto you okay so it's all you but uh enjoy the okay so it's all you but uh enjoy the okay so it's all you but uh enjoy the show and show and show and remember all the risk has been offloaded remember all the risk has been offloaded remember all the risk has been offloaded on you we're just having fun all right on you we're just having fun all right on you we're just having fun all right not to be confused with risk resum not to be confused with risk resum not to be confused with risk resum exactly not risk five this is not an exactly not risk five this is not an exactly not risk five this is not an adoral this is not an adoral I bought it adoral this is not an adoral I bought it adoral this is not an adoral I bought it with my own money so yeah not rabbit so with my own money so yeah not rabbit so with my own money so yeah not rabbit so I want to go back to Leonard you know I want to go back to Leonard you know I want to go back to Leonard you know because luckily his his immense you know because luckily his his immense you know because luckily his his immense you know um analyst firm next curve flew him out um analyst firm next curve flew him out um analyst firm next curve flew him out there uh to go spend time with lovo next there uh to go spend time with lovo next there uh to go spend time with lovo next curve jet on the next curve jet yeah curve jet on the next curve jet yeah curve jet on the next curve jet yeah give his boss a raise yeah yeah yes I give his boss a raise yeah yeah yes I give his boss a raise yeah yeah yes I give I give myself a raise but you said give I give myself a raise but you said give I give myself a raise but you said something interesting you said something something interesting you said something something interesting you said something that I was I want to I want to dive into that I was I want to I want to dive into that I was I want to I want to dive into a little bit you said went to Best Buy a little bit you said went to Best Buy a little bit you said went to Best Buy in New York and they had a whole big S in New York and they had a whole big S in New York and they had a whole big S big thing setup an incap or whatever for big thing setup an incap or whatever for big thing setup an incap or whatever for yeah this new all right does that was it

yeah this new all right does that was it yeah this new all right does that was it reminiscent the last time there's been reminiscent the last time there's been reminiscent the last time there's been computer stores with any kind of mania computer stores with any kind of mania computer stores with any kind of mania happening was the night that the happening was the night that the happening was the night that the midnight lineup for Windows 95 you know midnight lineup for Windows 95 you know midnight lineup for Windows 95 you know yeah yeah was it you know was it like yeah yeah was it you know was it like yeah yeah was it you know was it like that was it like that no no but it's that was it like that no no but it's that was it like that no no but it's something all those computer stores went something all those computer stores went something all those computer stores went out of business actually I mean how many out of business actually I mean how many out of business actually I mean how many of us on this show went to a retail of us on this show went to a retail of us on this show went to a retail store to buy our laptops we just don't we just don't do laptops we just don't we just don't do we don't do that people people go to the we don't do that people people go to the we don't do that people people go to the Apple store and buy people do go to the Apple store and buy people do go to the Apple store and buy people do go to the Apple Store you're right right Apple Store you're right right Apple Store you're right right line I still bought everything on Amazon line I still bought everything on Amazon line I still bought everything on Amazon for the Mac Mac and everything yeah but for the Mac Mac and everything yeah but for the Mac Mac and everything yeah but like for you know it's interesting if I like for you know it's interesting if I like for you know it's interesting if I go to Best Buy which is like go to Best Buy which is like go to Best Buy which is like what is it the only one left you know we what is it the only one left you know we what is it the only one left you know we lost still open barely yeah well you lost still open barely yeah well you lost still open barely yeah well you know here's the thing um know here's the thing um know here's the thing um they the Microsoft you know surface the they the Microsoft you know surface the they the Microsoft you know surface the surface line uses um a Snapdragon X Ser surface line uses um a Snapdragon X Ser surface line uses um a Snapdragon X Ser is right uh you um they only sell that is right uh you um they only sell that is right uh you um they only sell that model or let me see if I can phrase this model or let me see if I can phrase this model or let me see if I can phrase this correctly uh at their flagship store correctly uh at their flagship store correctly uh at their flagship store right and it was weird because the the right and it was weird because the the right and it was weird because the the the um the store that I was at which was the um the store that I was at which was the um the store that I was at which was near the flat iron building that one near the flat iron building that one near the flat iron building that one didn't have the Microsoft surfaces in

didn't have the Microsoft surfaces in didn't have the Microsoft surfaces in stock and so yeah it would have been stock and so yeah it would have been stock and so yeah it would have been interesting to see what if there was a interesting to see what if there was a interesting to see what if there was a line at the Microsoft store but at the line at the Microsoft store but at the line at the Microsoft store but at the Best Buy I didn't I didn't see the Best Buy I didn't I didn't see the Best Buy I didn't I didn't see the Microsoft store I think they most of Microsoft store I think they most of Microsoft store I think they most of Microsoft stores too right they've got Microsoft stores too right they've got Microsoft stores too right they've got Microsoft stores are kind of closed down Microsoft stores are kind of closed down Microsoft stores are kind of closed down to just a few flagships I mean I never to just a few flagships I mean I never to just a few flagships I mean I never got those yeah Well's doing it Microsoft got those yeah Well's doing it Microsoft got those yeah Well's doing it Microsoft has to do has to do has to do it no but they've Clos most of them it no but they've Clos most of them it no but they've Clos most of them down they weren't successful yeah they down they weren't successful yeah they down they weren't successful yeah they weren't successful because they well I weren't successful because they well I weren't successful because they well I also had everyone else's product in also had everyone else's product in also had everyone else's product in there as well as some of their own stuff there as well as some of their own stuff there as well as some of their own stuff so remember in in San Antonio at the so remember in in San Antonio at the so remember in in San Antonio at the shops at lock Anda which is like an shops at lock Anda which is like an shops at lock Anda which is like an outdoor indoor mall they had uh the outdoor indoor mall they had uh the outdoor indoor mall they had uh the Apple store right across from the Apple store right across from the Apple store right across from the Microsoft store you know ohs and apple Microsoft store you know ohs and apple Microsoft store you know ohs and apple would be like completely packed lying would be like completely packed lying would be like completely packed lying out the door and there'd be no one in out the door and there'd be no one in out the door and there'd be no one in Microsoft so was embarrassing we saying Microsoft so was embarrassing we saying Microsoft so was embarrassing we saying that people want to be seen going to that people want to be seen going to that people want to be seen going to Apple but don't want to be seen by Apple but don't want to be seen by Apple but don't want to be seen by Microsoft you know so I may mention Microsoft you know so I may mention Microsoft you know so I may mention Sigma I mentioned this before so back Sigma I mentioned this before so back Sigma I mentioned this before so back when there were Microsoft stores which when there were Microsoft stores which when there were Microsoft stores which were just kind of a big marketing thing were just kind of a big marketing thing were just kind of a big marketing thing maybe um trying to find their way my maybe um trying to find their way my maybe um trying to find their way my wife and I used to play this game where wife and I used to play this game where wife and I used to play this game where you're right you compare the Apple Store you're right you compare the Apple Store you're right you compare the Apple Store to the Microsoft store and it was like a to the Microsoft store and it was like a to the Microsoft store and it was like a you know it's like betting you know how you know it's like betting you know how you know it's like betting you know how you do the over under like on a football you do the over under like on a football you do the over under like on a football game or something we would play the over game or something we would play the over game or something we would play the over under game on will there be more guests under game on will there be more guests under game on will there be more guests uh Shoppers in the Microsoft store than

uh Shoppers in the Microsoft store than uh Shoppers in the Microsoft store than Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft employees um and employees um and employees um and typically typically there were a store typically typically there were a store typically typically there were a store full of Microsoft employees you know and full of Microsoft employees you know and full of Microsoft employees you know and they were all wearing the red shirt that they were all wearing the red shirt that they were all wearing the red shirt that when they beam down to the planet you when they beam down to the planet you when they beam down to the planet you know they're the ones who got killed know they're the ones who got killed know they're the ones who got killed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's kind of what happened in real life as it kind of what happened in real life as it kind of what happened in real life as it turns out you know and so but the Apple turns out you know and so but the Apple turns out you know and so but the Apple Store everybody's like you know taking Store everybody's like you know taking Store everybody's like you know taking selfies look I'm at the Apple Store I'm selfies look I'm at the Apple Store I'm selfies look I'm at the Apple Store I'm somebody yeah somebody yeah somebody yeah yeah yeah so I mean we'll see what the yeah yeah so I mean we'll see what the yeah yeah so I mean we'll see what the numbers look like in a couple of months numbers look like in a couple of months numbers look like in a couple of months so have you got to you got to play with so have you got to you got to play with so have you got to you got to play with it yeah I got to play with it Snapdragon it yeah I got to play with it Snapdragon it yeah I got to play with it Snapdragon okay I was super I was not impressed okay I was super I was not impressed okay I was super I was not impressed with co-pilot plus so anyone who's with co-pilot plus so anyone who's with co-pilot plus so anyone who's writing that it's such a great writing that it's such a great writing that it's such a great thing really come on are you referring thing really come on are you referring thing really come on are you referring to what are you referring to not to what are you referring to not to what are you referring to not impressed was the the performance of impressed was the the performance of impressed was the the performance of Windows on that or are you talking about Windows on that or are you talking about Windows on that or are you talking about AI stuff the AI stuff the tools it's AI stuff the AI stuff the tools it's AI stuff the AI stuff the tools it's like yeah okay guys I mean it's like a like yeah okay guys I mean it's like a like yeah okay guys I mean it's like a toy at best I mean you know I I I played toy at best I mean you know I I I played toy at best I mean you know I I I played with this stuff for quite some time and with this stuff for quite some time and with this stuff for quite some time and even the people who are demoing even the people who are demoing even the people who are demoing feature still novel yeah yeah yeah yeah feature still novel yeah yeah yeah yeah feature still novel yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah not going to transform anything so yeah not going to transform anything so yeah not going to transform anything so let's get that out of the way but the let's get that out of the way but the let's get that out of the way but the you know definitely the big thing for me you know definitely the big thing for me you know definitely the big thing for me is is just the Orion processors finally is is just the Orion processors finally is is just the Orion processors finally are out uh windows on Snapdragon is is

are out uh windows on Snapdragon is is are out uh windows on Snapdragon is is going to be something you know it's going to be something you know it's going to be something you know it's going to make an impression um they're going to make an impression um they're going to make an impression um they're they're working with I mean one of the they're working with I mean one of the they're working with I mean one of the things that Qualcomm is going to benefit things that Qualcomm is going to benefit things that Qualcomm is going to benefit from is this sort of um um support that from is this sort of um um support that from is this sort of um um support that they br for Microsoft on to go to market they br for Microsoft on to go to market they br for Microsoft on to go to market right so if you look at thatly so I met right so if you look at thatly so I met right so if you look at thatly so I met with s Sasha Sean who's you know had of with s Sasha Sean who's you know had of with s Sasha Sean who's you know had of communications at uh at Qualcomm communications at uh at Qualcomm communications at uh at Qualcomm um and we um he was sh me what the the um and we um he was sh me what the the um and we um he was sh me what the the the the the Qualcomm theplay used to look like at Qualcomm theplay used to look like at Qualcomm theplay used to look like at Best Buy and then now you know because Best Buy and then now you know because Best Buy and then now you know because they're kind of front and center uh how they're kind of front and center uh how they're kind of front and center uh how much more visibility they're getting uh much more visibility they're getting uh much more visibility they're getting uh through this whole pilot plus thing but through this whole pilot plus thing but through this whole pilot plus thing but um you know it's going to start to get um you know it's going to start to get um you know it's going to start to get crowded soon right because we have Intel crowded soon right because we have Intel crowded soon right because we have Intel as well as AMD uh AMD is going to come as well as AMD uh AMD is going to come as well as AMD uh AMD is going to come out with uh the ryzen Mi or no not Mi out with uh the ryzen Mi or no not Mi out with uh the ryzen Mi or no not Mi ryzen AI 300 next you know next month ryzen AI 300 next you know next month ryzen AI 300 next you know next month actually okay and so you're going to actually okay and so you're going to actually okay and so you're going to start to see AMD machines in the cop start to see AMD machines in the cop start to see AMD machines in the cop plus section and then when lunar inate plus section and then when lunar inate plus section and then when lunar inate comes out it's going to going to have a comes out it's going to going to have a comes out it's going to going to have a place there too so yeah quom has its place there too so yeah quom has its place there too so yeah quom has its window small window impression yeah but window small window impression yeah but window small window impression yeah but man I I really don't think C plus itself man I I really don't think C plus itself man I I really don't think C plus itself is going to do a lot to to impress is going to do a lot to to impress is going to do a lot to to impress consumers unless they they like to you consumers unless they they like to you consumers unless they they like to you know well I mean the yeah the bet is

know well I mean the yeah the bet is know well I mean the yeah the bet is that uh because with all with the that uh because with all with the that uh because with all with the Qualcomm what they're gonna end up Qualcomm what they're gonna end up Qualcomm what they're gonna end up getting mostly is share shift right so getting mostly is share shift right so getting mostly is share shift right so of the 250 million PCS that are sold of the 250 million PCS that are sold of the 250 million PCS that are sold every year a higher percentage will move every year a higher percentage will move every year a higher percentage will move to Qualcomm and percentage will be at to Qualcomm and percentage will be at to Qualcomm and percentage will be at Intel and so at the end of the day it's Intel and so at the end of the day it's Intel and so at the end of the day it's possible that there's no no net increase possible that there's no no net increase possible that there's no no net increase in Windows sales it's just shifting in Windows sales it's just shifting in Windows sales it's just shifting it is with co-pilot will sell more it is with co-pilot will sell more it is with co-pilot will sell more entice people to buy more but the issue entice people to buy more but the issue entice people to buy more but the issue is the vast majority of PC volume goes is the vast majority of PC volume goes is the vast majority of PC volume goes through the corporate Channel doesn't go through the corporate Channel doesn't go through the corporate Channel doesn't go through the retail channel right so through the retail channel right so through the retail channel right so really it's like unless you get Fortune really it's like unless you get Fortune really it's like unless you get Fortune to 500 saying I will buy these Qualcomm to 500 saying I will buy these Qualcomm to 500 saying I will buy these Qualcomm based laptops right or buy a refresh based laptops right or buy a refresh based laptops right or buy a refresh based on co-pilot based on co-pilot based on co-pilot then you know it's unclear how much real then you know it's unclear how much real then you know it's unclear how much real business impact there's going to be and business impact there's going to be and business impact there's going to be and the refresh cycles for corporate liable the refresh cycles for corporate liable the refresh cycles for corporate liable buying buying buying is it's it keeps we're we're hanging on is it's it keeps we're we're hanging on is it's it keeps we're we're hanging on to our computers a lot to our computers a lot to our computers a lot longer they're lasting longer and yeah longer they're lasting longer and yeah longer they're lasting longer and yeah so especially I mean postco it was like so especially I mean postco it was like so especially I mean postco it was like everybody just put everything on hold in everybody just put everything on hold in everybody just put everything on hold in terms of purchasing and refresh so we terms of purchasing and refresh so we terms of purchasing and refresh so we had a little bit of an uptick a few had a little bit of an uptick a few had a little bit of an uptick a few years after covid I mean post after Co years after covid I mean post after Co years after covid I mean post after Co started but after that it's we're back started but after that it's we're back started but after that it's we're back to leveling off and it's just there's no to leveling off and it's just there's no to leveling off and it's just there's no excitement there with when it comes to excitement there with when it comes to excitement there with when it comes to corporate liable purchases of computing corporate liable purchases of computing corporate liable purchases of computing devices it's so someone's trying to devices it's so someone's trying to devices it's so someone's trying to generate generate generate excitement well I mean but that was the excitement well I mean but that was the excitement well I mean but that was the whole thing but but but Pete I swear whole thing but but but Pete I swear whole thing but but but Pete I swear when you said you said them that they'll

when you said you said them that they'll when you said you said them that they'll get shares shift I thought you I thought get shares shift I thought you I thought get shares shift I thought you I thought you said they'll get shared [ __ ] I was you said they'll get shared [ __ ] I was you said they'll get shared [ __ ] I was like like like oh I'm right sh shift right there with oh I'm right sh shift right there with oh I'm right sh shift right there with this is a family this is a family this is a family show share shift I I I don't know I mean show share shift I I I don't know I mean show share shift I I I don't know I mean look I I I said it at the very beginning look I I I said it at the very beginning look I I I said it at the very beginning I've played around with I've played around with I've played around with llm just to play around with llm just to play around with llm just to play around with them and it's almost like it's almost them and it's almost like it's almost them and it's almost like it's almost like when you get a new toy you'll play like when you get a new toy you'll play like when you get a new toy you'll play around with it for a little while and around with it for a little while and around with it for a little while and then you just put it on the shelf and it then you just put it on the shelf and it then you just put it on the shelf and it you know it just sits there yeah that's you know it just sits there yeah that's you know it just sits there yeah that's my feeling about l lims today and that's my feeling about l lims today and that's my feeling about l lims today and that's the honest truth I I see very little the honest truth I I see very little the honest truth I I see very little value in it I think it depends today as value in it I think it depends today as value in it I think it depends today as it progresses and as it gets more yeah it progresses and as it gets more yeah it progresses and as it gets more yeah more of the mainstream things that are more of the mainstream things that are more of the mainstream things that are needed to needed to needed to truly help you other than chat Bots truly help you other than chat Bots truly help you other than chat Bots other than yeah you know I mean there other than yeah you know I mean there other than yeah you know I mean there are little things that that that it can are little things that that that it can are little things that that that it can do like I saw recently uh someone made a do like I saw recently uh someone made a do like I saw recently uh someone made a playlist on Spotify playlist on Spotify playlist on Spotify uh I don't know if how how much of uh I don't know if how how much of uh I don't know if how how much of hip-hop fans you guys are but hip-hop fans you guys are but hip-hop fans you guys are but Kendrick just put a song out I mean put Kendrick just put a song out I mean put Kendrick just put a song out I mean put a put put a joint out that Hill Drake a put put a joint out that Hill Drake a put put a joint out that Hill Drake and there was a whole war going on and there was a whole war going on and there was a whole war going on between every single between every single between every single word and I know that that was chat GPT word and I know that that was chat GPT word and I know that that was chat GPT or some llm you know I mean everyone was

or some llm you know I mean everyone was or some llm you know I mean everyone was amazed at and I'm like well that's kind amazed at and I'm like well that's kind amazed at and I'm like well that's kind of what it does it scrapes the web for of what it does it scrapes the web for of what it does it scrapes the web for information and then kind of compiles it information and then kind of compiles it information and then kind of compiles it yeah ask it you know give me give me a yeah ask it you know give me give me a yeah ask it you know give me give me a playlist that contains every word from playlist that contains every word from playlist that contains every word from this this this song yeah it can do it yeah well you song yeah it can do it yeah well you song yeah it can do it yeah well you know I I I I think so this is the thing know I I I I think so this is the thing know I I I I think so this is the thing I think people are going to start to I think people are going to start to I think people are going to start to forget about that stuff because I mean forget about that stuff because I mean forget about that stuff because I mean yeah there's some utility but it's it it yeah there's some utility but it's it it yeah there's some utility but it's it it doesn't support this doesn't support this doesn't support this hypothesis especially for Enterprise hypothesis especially for Enterprise hypothesis especially for Enterprise that generative AI is going to have this that generative AI is going to have this that generative AI is going to have this exponential thing it boils down to like exponential thing it boils down to like exponential thing it boils down to like MP battery life for Portables right I MP battery life for Portables right I MP battery life for Portables right I mean that's what it's going boil down to mean that's what it's going boil down to mean that's what it's going boil down to yeah battery life and um the the cool yeah battery life and um the the cool yeah battery life and um the the cool applications and you know um use cases applications and you know um use cases applications and you know um use cases are things like that magic mask thing are things like that magic mask thing are things like that magic mask thing for eventually resolve so for creators for eventually resolve so for creators for eventually resolve so for creators right who are on the go or you know right who are on the go or you know right who are on the go or you know anyone who's trying to put together anyone who's trying to put together anyone who's trying to put together Semi-Pro type of content when you're Semi-Pro type of content when you're Semi-Pro type of content when you're using these tools that taxs the CPU and using these tools that taxs the CPU and using these tools that taxs the CPU and kill the battery life you're portable kill the battery life you're portable kill the battery life you're portable laptop or what have you um the these laptop or what have you um the these laptop or what have you um the these type of practical applications that are type of practical applications that are type of practical applications that are mostly ml related it's not generative mostly ml related it's not generative mostly ml related it's not generative that's really really helpful and that that's really really helpful and that that's really really helpful and that that's one of the reasons why I love the that's one of the reasons why I love the that's one of the reasons why I love the Mac MacBook um air 15 in right it has Mac MacBook um air 15 in right it has Mac MacBook um air 15 in right it has the M2 in it but man it it just lasts the M2 in it but man it it just lasts the M2 in it but man it it just lasts all day it really last all day and if

all day it really last all day and if all day it really last all day and if I'm not doing that kind of stuff it'll I'm not doing that kind of stuff it'll I'm not doing that kind of stuff it'll last I don't the CH one charge three last I don't the CH one charge three last I don't the CH one charge three days of use like insane right wow so um days of use like insane right wow so um days of use like insane right wow so um yeah and and so this is going to be like yeah and and so this is going to be like yeah and and so this is going to be like the wild factor for I think a lot of the wild factor for I think a lot of the wild factor for I think a lot of Enterprise users who I don't think Enterprise users who I don't think Enterprise users who I don't think really do they just want to be able to really do they just want to be able to really do they just want to be able to get through the day right they don't get through the day right they don't get through the day right they don't want their computer a battery uh in the want their computer a battery uh in the want their computer a battery uh in the middle middle middle ofy it's always those two things battery ofy it's always those two things battery ofy it's always those two things battery and weight since the beginning of time I and weight since the beginning of time I and weight since the beginning of time I mean as someone who worked in Windows mean as someone who worked in Windows mean as someone who worked in Windows myself and worked on laptops in like the myself and worked on laptops in like the myself and worked on laptops in like the 90s it's always how thin in light can 90s it's always how thin in light can 90s it's always how thin in light can you make it and how long can the battery you make it and how long can the battery you make it and how long can the battery last and everything else is commentary last and everything else is commentary last and everything else is commentary well I think that the the whole trend of well I think that the the whole trend of well I think that the the whole trend of AI PCS and AI smartphones is they're AI PCS and AI smartphones is they're AI PCS and AI smartphones is they're they're their goal is try to make this they're their goal is try to make this they're their goal is try to make this look very sexy and to somehow increase look very sexy and to somehow increase look very sexy and to somehow increase their you know the purchasing and their you know the purchasing and their you know the purchasing and increase some awareness but in the end increase some awareness but in the end increase some awareness but in the end it's just like Leonard said where it's just like Leonard said where it's just like Leonard said where actually seeing movement is very basic actually seeing movement is very basic actually seeing movement is very basic practical applications that are not sexy practical applications that are not sexy practical applications that are not sexy at all and they're all behind the scene at all and they're all behind the scene at all and they're all behind the scene type stuff they're not in user facing type stuff they're not in user facing type stuff they're not in user facing experience facing they're just it's just experience facing they're just it's just experience facing they're just it's just we're not there yet but they're trying we're not there yet but they're trying we're not there yet but they're trying to sell us that it is there apparently to sell us that it is there apparently to sell us that it is there apparently Soul harvesting is the new thing so I Soul harvesting is the new thing so I Soul harvesting is the new thing so I think that think that think that be laptop has a soul harvesting feature be laptop has a soul harvesting feature be laptop has a soul harvesting feature that will kind of suck your brain dry

that will kind of suck your brain dry that will kind of suck your brain dry over 18 make you redundant and over 18 make you redundant and over 18 make you redundant and disposable disposable disposable yeah I saw that on the sticker on this yeah I saw that on the sticker on this yeah I saw that on the sticker on this thing yeah so Leonard is there is there thing yeah so Leonard is there is there thing yeah so Leonard is there is there a story but is there a story about crazy a story but is there a story about crazy a story but is there a story about crazy battery life on these Snapdragon Elite X battery life on these Snapdragon Elite X battery life on these Snapdragon Elite X PCS for Windows you know the early early PCS for Windows you know the early early PCS for Windows you know the early early word um is that it's pretty impressive word um is that it's pretty impressive word um is that it's pretty impressive right um and that it is setting a right um and that it is setting a right um and that it is setting a benchmark uh within the PC industry benchmark uh within the PC industry benchmark uh within the PC industry there was a lot of skepticism coming in there was a lot of skepticism coming in there was a lot of skepticism coming in but then when you look at a lot of the but then when you look at a lot of the but then when you look at a lot of the testing what people have done so there testing what people have done so there testing what people have done so there are folks who have gotten machined you are folks who have gotten machined you are folks who have gotten machined you know from various oems uh in the past know from various oems uh in the past know from various oems uh in the past month or so right so they're they're month or so right so they're they're month or so right so they're they're testing things out and um I think testing things out and um I think testing things out and um I think they're theyve up the game significantly they're theyve up the game significantly they're theyve up the game significantly so Intel AMD I think AMD in particular so Intel AMD I think AMD in particular so Intel AMD I think AMD in particular really have to come in with something really have to come in with something really have to come in with something good with uh ai ai 300 I think Intel good with uh ai ai 300 I think Intel good with uh ai ai 300 I think Intel with NE relate with NE relate with NE relate could surprise quite honestly uh so I could surprise quite honestly uh so I could surprise quite honestly uh so I don't don't count Intel out um well don't don't count Intel out um well don't don't count Intel out um well thing about corporate buyers you know thing about corporate buyers you know thing about corporate buyers you know buying Intel based laptops that's always buying Intel based laptops that's always buying Intel based laptops that's always a safe a safe a safe bet that's what they're used bet that's what they're used bet that's what they're used to it everything has all day or M to it everything has all day or M to it everything has all day or M multi-day battery life yeah yeah but multi-day battery life yeah yeah but multi-day battery life yeah yeah but then comes in with a pretty heavy GPU then comes in with a pretty heavy GPU then comes in with a pretty heavy GPU and pretty nice basically so Leonard did

and pretty nice basically so Leonard did and pretty nice basically so Leonard did you Leonard so basically you you did you Leonard so basically you you did you Leonard so basically you you did your assessment of the AI there you your assessment of the AI there you your assessment of the AI there you weren't that impressed did you call up weren't that impressed did you call up weren't that impressed did you call up Jensen yesterday and say you can you can Jensen yesterday and say you can you can Jensen yesterday and say you can you can rest easy you can go ahead and sleep rest easy you can go ahead and sleep rest easy you can go ahead and sleep through the night I know you're worried through the night I know you're worried through the night I know you're worried about it as you surpassed apple and about it as you surpassed apple and about it as you surpassed apple and Microsoft as the most valuable company Microsoft as the most valuable company Microsoft as the most valuable company in the world yesterday that was the big in the world yesterday that was the big in the world yesterday that was the big news yesterday that was the big news ni news yesterday that was the big news ni news yesterday that was the big news ni absolutely and I am loving it yeah kind of like the the Drake it yeah kind of like the the Drake versus uh the versus uh the versus uh the Dr go k we love a little bit of Dr go k we love a little bit of Dr go k we love a little bit of disruption happening out in our disruption happening out in our disruption happening out in our Industries and the shake up so there's Industries and the shake up so there's Industries and the shake up so there's other there's other Snapdragon news that other there's other Snapdragon news that other there's other Snapdragon news that I read about back to snapdragons I read about back to snapdragons I read about back to snapdragons Homebase Android phones right and so Homebase Android phones right and so Homebase Android phones right and so there I read some blurbs that uh you there I read some blurbs that uh you there I read some blurbs that uh you know you know how they have know you know how they have know you know how they have the version four is the next one you the version four is the next one you the version four is the next one you know whatever the Snapdragon 8 you Gen 4 know whatever the Snapdragon 8 you Gen 4 know whatever the Snapdragon 8 you Gen 4 and um there was some I read some blurbs and um there was some I read some blurbs and um there was some I read some blurbs saying it it was going to be a lot more saying it it was going to be a lot more saying it it was going to be a lot more expensive potentially that Chip is going expensive potentially that Chip is going expensive potentially that Chip is going to be more to be more to be more expensive uh tsmc is going to make it at expensive uh tsmc is going to make it at expensive uh tsmc is going to make it at 3 nanometers you know I mean obviously 3 nanometers you know I mean obviously 3 nanometers you know I mean obviously they wanted to be competitive against they wanted to be competitive against they wanted to be competitive against the iPhone and their silicon and so and the iPhone and their silicon and so and the iPhone and their silicon and so and I think I think the last year or two I think I think the last year or two I think I think the last year or two Snapdragon getting a lot better but I Snapdragon getting a lot better but I Snapdragon getting a lot better but I read something that said it it could be

read something that said it it could be read something that said it it could be 20 or 30% more expensive for some reason 20 or 30% more expensive for some reason 20 or 30% more expensive for some reason I don't know if it was the manufacturing I don't know if it was the manufacturing I don't know if it was the manufacturing the Chip And so there there it could it the Chip And so there there it could it the Chip And so there there it could it could all be BS but there was a lot of could all be BS but there was a lot of could all be BS but there was a lot of talk about it being more expensive and talk about it being more expensive and talk about it being more expensive and will Samsung and others absorb that or will Samsung and others absorb that or will Samsung and others absorb that or will the phone get even more expensive will the phone get even more expensive will the phone get even more expensive you know we know the answer question you know we know the answer question you know we know the answer question yeah they should bring the Orion yeah they should bring the Orion yeah they should bring the Orion CS but you know given Media Tech what CS but you know given Media Tech what CS but you know given Media Tech what they're doing in premium I think it's they're doing in premium I think it's they're doing in premium I think it's going to be difficult for f or anyone going to be difficult for f or anyone going to be difficult for f or anyone else to else to else to charge more right well the average the charge more right well the average the charge more right well the average the average buyer you know the the midsize average buyer you know the the midsize average buyer you know the the midsize and smaller you know budgeted people and smaller you know budgeted people and smaller you know budgeted people they put their stuff on a payment plan they put their stuff on a payment plan they put their stuff on a payment plan they're not buying their phones outright they're not buying their phones outright they're not buying their phones outright it's too expensive right they're just it's too expensive right they're just it's too expensive right they're just looking at the so yeah so from their looking at the so yeah so from their looking at the so yeah so from their perspective as long as they're paying perspective as long as they're paying perspective as long as they're paying the same monthly fee in their mind it the same monthly fee in their mind it the same monthly fee in their mind it doesn't it's it's it's one of those it's doesn't it's it's it's one of those it's doesn't it's it's it's one of those it's just one of those buying things where just one of those buying things where just one of those buying things where they just months it's 72 months that's they just months it's 72 months that's they just months it's 72 months that's all right it doesn't impact them until all right it doesn't impact them until all right it doesn't impact them until they do their until it comes to town to they do their until it comes to town to they do their until it comes to town to paying you know oh we need a new device paying you know oh we need a new device paying you know oh we need a new device I need to upgrade oh by the way your I need to upgrade oh by the way your I need to upgrade oh by the way your balance is did the two of you used to balance is did the two of you used to balance is did the two of you used to work did both either of you work at a work did both either of you work at a work did both either of you work at a car dealership the payment buyers those dealership the payment buyers those floor mats are only extra 30 bucks a floor mats are only extra 30 bucks a floor mats are only extra 30 bucks a month for 72 72 months you know hey month for 72 72 months you know hey month for 72 72 months you know hey pretty soon we're going to have bu pretty soon we're going to have bu pretty soon we're going to have bu pretty soon we'll have buy here pay here pretty soon we'll have buy here pay here pretty soon we'll have buy here pay here for our smartphone devices they'll come for our smartphone devices they'll come for our smartphone devices they'll come get them if you haven't paid your bill

get them if you haven't paid your bill get them if you haven't paid your bill the Repo Man oh the repo yeah repo for the Repo Man oh the repo yeah repo for the Repo Man oh the repo yeah repo for phones I think that' be a new one it's phones I think that' be a new one it's phones I think that' be a new one it's like they do with the with the uh like they do with the with the uh like they do with the with the uh challenge budgeted people for cars I challenge budgeted people for cars I challenge budgeted people for cars I don't want the undercoding on my phone I don't want the undercoding on my phone I don't want the undercoding on my phone I just don't take it off I didn't ask for just don't take it off I didn't ask for just don't take it off I didn't ask for it no that's called a screen protector it no that's called a screen protector it no that's called a screen protector that's okay that's okay that's okay that's I mean I'm on the forever plan I that's I mean I'm on the forever plan I that's I mean I'm on the forever plan I I uh every year I get a new a new I uh every year I get a new a new I uh every year I get a new a new phone yeah well I think also the phone yeah well I think also the phone yeah well I think also the difference the difference in the model difference the difference in the model difference the difference in the model is that they don't necessarily make is that they don't necessarily make is that they don't necessarily make money out of the finance ing because money out of the finance ing because money out of the finance ing because most of the financing are like know 0% most of the financing are like know 0% most of the financing are like know 0% or whatever so a lot of a lot of hide or whatever so a lot of a lot of hide or whatever so a lot of a lot of hide the ball financing when it comes to the ball financing when it comes to the ball financing when it comes to phones it's a little bit different of phones it's a little bit different of phones it's a little bit different of the C your ship where you get screwed on the C your ship where you get screwed on the C your ship where you get screwed on the price of the vehicle it's unclear the price of the vehicle it's unclear the price of the vehicle it's unclear how much you're actually paying and how how much you're actually paying and how how much you're actually paying and how much it actually cost and like you said much it actually cost and like you said much it actually cost and like you said Stephanie as long as it's 30 bucks a Stephanie as long as it's 30 bucks a Stephanie as long as it's 30 bucks a month and that's what I was paying and I month and that's what I was paying and I month and that's what I was paying and I get a new phone then fine and they sneak get a new phone then fine and they sneak get a new phone then fine and they sneak it they'll sneak in that in price it they'll sneak in that in price it they'll sneak in that in price increase yeah I think it's I think it's increase yeah I think it's I think it's increase yeah I think it's I think it's more customer acquisition right I mean more customer acquisition right I mean more customer acquisition right I mean they're playing the game of can I can I they're playing the game of can I can I they're playing the game of can I can I steal Verizon customers if it's T-Mobile steal Verizon customers if it's T-Mobile steal Verizon customers if it's T-Mobile can I steal T-Mobile customers if it's can I steal T-Mobile customers if it's can I steal T-Mobile customers if it's Verizon Verizon Verizon AT&T uh yeah they can they kind of play AT&T uh yeah they can they kind of play AT&T uh yeah they can they kind of play the same well they gotta add lines they the same well they gotta add lines they the same well they gotta add lines they got to add lines and uh when everyone got to add lines and uh when everyone got to add lines and uh when everyone has a line the only way to get someone has a line the only way to get someone has a line the only way to get someone on your thing is to get them off someone on your thing is to get them off someone on your thing is to get them off someone else so this continuous Battle of people else so this continuous Battle of people else so this continuous Battle of people you know Telco is paying for people to you know Telco is paying for people to you know Telco is paying for people to switch onto their Network yeah are you switch onto their Network yeah are you switch onto their Network yeah are you saying it's still all about this

saying it's still all about this saying it's still all about this it's about AR it's software Rob nowadays it's about AR it's software Rob nowadays it's about AR it's software Rob nowadays wow a physical Sim that's a bit anac wow a physical Sim that's a bit anac wow a physical Sim that's a bit anac it's kind it's kind of old guys thing so it's kind it's kind of old guys thing so it's kind it's kind of old guys thing so it's all it's all eim now it's all it's all eim now it's all it's all eim now man eim and who do we have to than for man eim and who do we have to than for man eim and who do we have to than for that that has its own set of problems I that that has its own set of problems I that that has its own set of problems I mean tell mean tell mean tell us you like you're not down with eim us you like you're not down with eim us you like you're not down with eim well no I mean so eims have been around well no I mean so eims have been around well no I mean so eims have been around for a long time right but you're now for a long time right but you're now for a long time right but you're now approaching that era where you got users approaching that era where you got users approaching that era where you got users and I'm thinking I'm thinking Enterprise and I'm thinking I'm thinking Enterprise and I'm thinking I'm thinking Enterprise users right so um those that'll say they users right so um those that'll say they users right so um those that'll say they want two want two want two profiles and the eim is capable of of of profiles and the eim is capable of of of profiles and the eim is capable of of of uh housing multiple profiles but those uh housing multiple profiles but those uh housing multiple profiles but those standards still haven't been accepted standards still haven't been accepted standards still haven't been accepted and adopted as yet but right press and adopted as yet but right press and adopted as yet but right press forward and and act like it has I mean forward and and act like it has I mean forward and and act like it has I mean SGP 31 and GP 42 are the the main ones SGP 31 and GP 42 are the the main ones SGP 31 and GP 42 are the the main ones and that's bootstrapping and and that's bootstrapping and and that's bootstrapping and provisioning and and then profile provisioning and and then profile provisioning and and then profile management I mean I would love to have management I mean I would love to have management I mean I would love to have two profiles online and and and at any two profiles online and and and at any two profiles online and and and at any time go wait a minute I'm using this now time go wait a minute I'm using this now time go wait a minute I'm using this now but you're flip-flopping between car and but you're flip-flopping between car and but you're flip-flopping between car and hate that no yeah Telos never want they hate that no yeah Telos never want they hate that no yeah Telos never want they don't want they don't want to take any don't want they don't want to take any don't want they don't want to take any friction out of switching from their friction out of switching from their friction out of switching from their Network to anyone else that's why a lot Network to anyone else that's why a lot Network to anyone else that's why a lot of these standards have been held wasn't of these standards have been held wasn't of these standards have been held wasn't a few years ago T-Mobile um launched

a few years ago T-Mobile um launched a few years ago T-Mobile um launched their I don't know what they branded it their I don't know what they branded it their I don't know what they branded it at where you can set up your dual at where you can set up your dual at where you can set up your dual profiles with their you know using both profiles with their you know using both profiles with their you know using both T-Mobile though they were like stick T-Mobile though they were like stick T-Mobile though they were like stick with us're both profiles we can get you with us're both profiles we can get you with us're both profiles we can get you a corporate liable profile and then your a corporate liable profile and then your a corporate liable profile and then your personal profile all in one device right personal profile all in one device right personal profile all in one device right yeah but the the the benefit around the yeah but the the the benefit around the yeah but the the the benefit around the the the profiles is I've had instances the the profiles is I've had instances the the profiles is I've had instances where my my daughters are on AT&T and where my my daughters are on AT&T and where my my daughters are on AT&T and I'm on T-Mobile and I don't have I'm on T-Mobile and I don't have I'm on T-Mobile and I don't have coverage but they do and then vice versa coverage but they do and then vice versa coverage but they do and then vice versa so ideally you'd be able to say hey wait so ideally you'd be able to say hey wait so ideally you'd be able to say hey wait a minute this isn't working I'm a minute this isn't working I'm a minute this isn't working I'm switching over here right now they don't switching over here right now they don't switching over here right now they don't want us to do that yeah no they don't want us to do that yeah no they don't want us to do that yeah no they don't like that because you're messing with like that because you're messing with like that because you're messing with that that the Holy Grail of ARP you're that that the Holy Grail of ARP you're that that the Holy Grail of ARP you're arbitraging between yeah yes lease cost arbitraging between yeah yes lease cost arbitraging between yeah yes lease cost routing and all that other stuff you're routing and all that other stuff you're routing and all that other stuff you're free which is bad yes free which is bad yes free which is bad yes Freedom come on average it's always it Freedom come on average it's always it Freedom come on average it's always it was always been about average revenue was always been about average revenue was always been about average revenue per user you talked about acquisition per user you talked about acquisition per user you talked about acquisition will that all shifts if you if you're will that all shifts if you if you're will that all shifts if you if you're able to hop around so I've had an able to hop around so I've had an able to hop around so I've had an experience damn it and I want my freedom experience damn it and I want my freedom experience damn it and I want my freedom yeah well I've had the experience where yeah well I've had the experience where yeah well I've had the experience where just within T-Mobile like I'll flip back just within T-Mobile like I'll flip back just within T-Mobile like I'll flip back and forth between Android and iPhone and and forth between Android and iPhone and and forth between Android and iPhone and you're supposed to with they're both you're supposed to with they're both you're supposed to with they're both doing eim and they're supposed to be doing eim and they're supposed to be doing eim and they're supposed to be easy seamless maybe scan a QR code easy seamless maybe scan a QR code easy seamless maybe scan a QR code whatever and I I can't speak for other whatever and I I can't speak for other whatever and I I can't speak for other carriers but T-Mobile's like the carriers but T-Mobile's like the carriers but T-Mobile's like the security problem is well they won't let security problem is well they won't let security problem is well they won't let you do it they're making you call in and you do it they're making you call in and you do it they're making you call in and talk to someone and read and read them

talk to someone and read and read them talk to someone and read and read them the IMI to them over the phone uh and the IMI to them over the phone uh and the IMI to them over the phone uh and then magically the other phone turns on then magically the other phone turns on then magically the other phone turns on and the other one goes away and it so and the other one goes away and it so and the other one goes away and it so anyway that benefit of eim like that anyway that benefit of eim like that anyway that benefit of eim like that seamless hopping back and forth whatever seamless hopping back and forth whatever seamless hopping back and forth whatever way right out the window so to Bill's way right out the window so to Bill's way right out the window so to Bill's point I don't know if it was Bill's point I don't know if it was Bill's point I don't know if it was Bill's point or not but it was the actual SIM point or not but it was the actual SIM point or not but it was the actual SIM card turns out it was more convenient card turns out it was more convenient card turns out it was more convenient because I could just pop it out and put because I could just pop it out and put because I could just pop it out and put it in instead of having to call somebody it in instead of having to call somebody it in instead of having to call somebody and be on the phone for 30 minutes to and be on the phone for 30 minutes to and be on the phone for 30 minutes to just try to you forgot to mention just try to you forgot to mention just try to you forgot to mention convenient for who I don't think it was convenient for who I don't think it was convenient for who I don't think it was any way a convenience for the for the any way a convenience for the for the any way a convenience for the for the network operators to go from physical network operators to go from physical network operators to go from physical Sim to eim is just cheaper for them to Sim to eim is just cheaper for them to Sim to eim is just cheaper for them to to procure digital Sims at physical Sims to procure digital Sims at physical Sims to procure digital Sims at physical Sims I think that's the the only I think that's the the only I think that's the the only driver you have T-Mobile they'll give driver you have T-Mobile they'll give driver you have T-Mobile they'll give you the option to you know when you when you the option to you know when you when you the option to you know when you when you provision the device the first time you provision the device the first time you provision the device the first time they'll say you can either use an eim or they'll say you can either use an eim or they'll say you can either use an eim or you can use uh you know one of the you can use uh you know one of the you can use uh you know one of the plastic Sims yeah I know yeah it's only plastic Sims yeah I know yeah it's only plastic Sims yeah I know yeah it's only because they have demand for it because because they have demand for it because because they have demand for it because some customers are probably moving their some customers are probably moving their some customers are probably moving their s from one place to another but if there s from one place to another but if there s from one place to another but if there weren't they probably choose whatever is weren't they probably choose whatever is weren't they probably choose whatever is less expensive for them right well many less expensive for them right well many less expensive for them right well many time there's a lot of phones designed time there's a lot of phones designed time there's a lot of phones designed back in the day with multiple SIM slots back in the day with multiple SIM slots back in the day with multiple SIM slots too so this is one thing you fa to show too so this is one thing you fa to show too so this is one thing you fa to show in the Windows Phone episode a phone in the Windows Phone episode a phone in the Windows Phone episode a phone with multiple with multiple with multiple [Music] [Music] [Music] SIM well yeah Windows mobile phones were SIM well yeah Windows mobile phones were SIM well yeah Windows mobile phones were rare enough but to find one with two SIM rare enough but to find one with two SIM rare enough but to find one with two SIM slots was like that's like it is the slots was like that's like it is the slots was like that's like it is the challenge I'm sending to you guys all

challenge I'm sending to you guys all challenge I'm sending to you guys all right we'll get we'll go out talk to mob right we'll get we'll go out talk to mob right we'll get we'll go out talk to mob folks and see if they folks and see if they folks and see if they have I don't think actually Rob correct have I don't think actually Rob correct have I don't think actually Rob correct if I'm wrong I think multi-sim support if I'm wrong I think multi-sim support if I'm wrong I think multi-sim support in the Windows mobile platform was in the Windows mobile platform was in the Windows mobile platform was probably a little bit basic I don't even probably a little bit basic I don't even probably a little bit basic I don't even know it was basic back to how operators know it was basic back to how operators know it was basic back to how operators and other players were in control and and other players were in control and and other players were in control and not Microsoft and so there were phones not Microsoft and so there were phones not Microsoft and so there were phones but it was the O had to write that code but it was the O had to write that code but it was the O had to write that code that's right remember the operating that's right remember the operating that's right remember the operating system was completely hackable just like system was completely hackable just like system was completely hackable just like Android right and so OEM could do Android right and so OEM could do Android right and so OEM could do whatever they want to it yeah they would whatever they want to it yeah they would whatever they want to it yeah they would have to write it and it wasn't standard have to write it and it wasn't standard have to write it and it wasn't standard Microsoft code right absolutely wow Microsoft code right absolutely wow Microsoft code right absolutely wow tour I wonder if Pete and I wonder if tour I wonder if Pete and I wonder if tour I wonder if Pete and I wonder if Pete and I should go to the Belleview Pete and I should go to the Belleview Pete and I should go to the Belleview Best Buy and do a live broadcast there Best Buy and do a live broadcast there Best Buy and do a live broadcast there from the AI plus live stream to you know from the AI plus live stream to you know from the AI plus live stream to you know show it off and see if people are show it off and see if people are show it off and see if people are waiting in line and running out Store waiting in line and running out Store waiting in line and running out Store look I got it you know I'd love to see look I got it you know I'd love to see look I got it you know I'd love to see that I'd love to see that I want to see that I'd love to see that I want to see that I'd love to see that I want to see how long it lasts yeah I like I said I didn't see lasts yeah I like I said I didn't see any any any lines I have lines I have lines I have video um yeah yeah it is what it is video um yeah yeah it is what it is video um yeah yeah it is what it is there were no lines according there were no lines according there were no lines according to according to Chad GPT the Microsoft to according to Chad GPT the Microsoft to according to Chad GPT the Microsoft Lumina 640 dual Lumina 640 dual Lumina 640 dual and two SIM counts so that was a Windows and two SIM counts so that was a Windows and two SIM counts so that was a Windows phone that was a oh yeah it's an 8.1 phone that was a oh yeah it's an 8.1 phone that was a oh yeah it's an 8.1 phone noia yeah so as usual chbt give a

phone noia yeah so as usual chbt give a phone noia yeah so as usual chbt give a crap answer so1 no it was 80% correct 80% correct so so1 no it was 80% correct 80% correct so that's that's that's typical accuracy off top pick because I typical accuracy off top pick because I typical accuracy off top pick because I ask about Windows phone and you reply ask about Windows phone and you reply ask about Windows phone and you reply about Windows 8.1 about Windows 8.1 about Windows 8.1 but I thought windows make sure we but I thought windows make sure we but I thought windows make sure we highlight that L you gotta put on here highlight that L you gotta put on here highlight that L you gotta put on here real time use of chat real time use of chat real time use of chat GPT 80% you just don't know which 80% I GPT 80% you just don't know which 80% I GPT 80% you just don't know which 80% I mean yeah 20% mean yeah 20% mean yeah 20% %% and you %% and you %% and you know this this thing just cannot be a know this this thing just cannot be a know this this thing just cannot be a reliable source of reliable source of reliable source of summarization you know um you just can't summarization you know um you just can't summarization you know um you just can't rely on it I I'm sorry you know it it rely on it I I'm sorry you know it it rely on it I I'm sorry you know it it proves itself over and over again that proves itself over and over again that proves itself over and over again that it it is not reliable you knowe for the it it is not reliable you knowe for the it it is not reliable you knowe for the Enterprise that's not be good enough Enterprise that's not be good enough Enterprise that's not be good enough right the the Cavit I would say to that right the the Cavit I would say to that right the the Cavit I would say to that is we because most of the the topics we is we because most of the the topics we is we because most of the the topics we discussed are around individ an discussed are around individ an discussed are around individ an individual use of it on its PC I do individual use of it on its PC I do individual use of it on its PC I do believe that because by the nature of believe that because by the nature of believe that because by the nature of being a language interface the effect it being a language interface the effect it being a language interface the effect it will have in terms of Engagement of will have in terms of Engagement of will have in terms of Engagement of people for advertising is not going to people for advertising is not going to people for advertising is not going to be visible be visible be visible but you're going to start to see this but you're going to start to see this but you're going to start to see this technology bombarding you with technology bombarding you with technology bombarding you with advertisement and kind of this is going advertisement and kind of this is going advertisement and kind of this is going to to to happen have you seen have you seen the happen have you seen have you seen the happen have you seen have you seen the uh like on Instagram if you put a post

uh like on Instagram if you put a post uh like on Instagram if you put a post out there's a little check mark button out there's a little check mark button out there's a little check mark button where you can put that it that you where you can put that it that you where you can put that it that you generated this it wants the user to say generated this it wants the user to say generated this it wants the user to say I've generated this on AI and I'm like I've generated this on AI and I'm like I've generated this on AI and I'm like this is really getting out this is crazy this is really getting out this is crazy this is really getting out this is crazy because there's a there's accountability because there's a there's accountability because there's a there's accountability and respons and respons and respons responsibility associ iated with whether responsibility associ iated with whether responsibility associ iated with whether or not that's original content or or not that's original content or or not that's original content or whether or not it was llm generated the whether or not it was llm generated the whether or not it was llm generated the the so this is their effort at the so this is their effort at the so this is their effort at transparency as it relates to uh transparency as it relates to uh transparency as it relates to uh generative a generative a generative a Content yeah like that's gonna work is Content yeah like that's gonna work is Content yeah like that's gonna work is the person responsible or is the AI the person responsible or is the AI the person responsible or is the AI responsible is the machine responsible responsible is the machine responsible responsible is the machine responsible kind of like last night responsible kind of like last night responsible kind of like last night responsible because you have to say it was generated because you have to say it was generated because you have to say it was generated with AI I don't trust anyone you know with AI I don't trust anyone you know with AI I don't trust anyone you know kind of like yesterday you know the kind of like yesterday you know the kind of like yesterday you know the night before last when Justin night before last when Justin night before last when Justin Timberlake's getting pulled over you Timberlake's getting pulled over you Timberlake's getting pulled over you know for know for know for DUI if I was him I would have said I'm DUI if I was him I would have said I'm DUI if I was him I would have said I'm not responsible this is a self-driving not responsible this is a self-driving not responsible this is a self-driving car it was the AI that ran that stop car it was the AI that ran that stop car it was the AI that ran that stop sign you know sign you know sign you know right I would have just said that number right I would have just said that number right I would have just said that number that you just got from the breathalyzer that you just got from the breathalyzer that you just got from the breathalyzer was AI generated yes yes I thought the was AI generated yes yes I thought the was AI generated yes yes I thought the funny thing about that story is the funny thing about that story is the funny thing about that story is the had no idea who he was he was some he had no idea who he was he was some he had no idea who he was he was some he was from a younger generation it's like was from a younger generation it's like was from a younger generation it's like I still don't understand why he was I still don't understand why he was I still don't understand why he was arrest I mean like he was arrested and arrest I mean like he was arrested and arrest I mean like he was arrested and booked so yeah like did he do something

booked so yeah like did he do something booked so yeah like did he do something else that like am I missing something he else that like am I missing something he else that like am I missing something he was booked was booked was booked and so ran a stop sign went out of Lane and so ran a stop sign went out of Lane and so ran a stop sign went out of Lane he he you're right he refused the he he you're right he refused the he he you're right he refused the breathalizer but they also did a breathalizer but they also did a breathalizer but they also did a sobriety test walking you I think if you sobriety test walking you I think if you sobriety test walking you I think if you refuse a breath you're automatically refuse a breath you're automatically refuse a breath you're automatically booked aren't you I'm sure his lawyer booked aren't you I'm sure his lawyer booked aren't you I'm sure his lawyer said just refuse no matter what never said just refuse no matter what never said just refuse no matter what never say yes my husband says to do that too say yes my husband says to do that too say yes my husband says to do that too because he's like the worst they do he's because he's like the worst they do he's because he's like the worst they do he's like even if you had nothing to drink he like even if you had nothing to drink he like even if you had nothing to drink he said because if if there's analysis said because if if there's analysis said because if if there's analysis that's wrong he said the worst you do is that's wrong he said the worst you do is that's wrong he said the worst you do is you lose your license for a year in you lose your license for a year in you lose your license for a year in Texas okay um and he like it's just and Texas okay um and he like it's just and Texas okay um and he like it's just and I'm he he's telling my 17-year-old boy I'm he he's telling my 17-year-old boy I'm he he's telling my 17-year-old boy don't ever like breathe in a breath and don't ever like breathe in a breath and don't ever like breathe in a breath and I'm like oh my God I don't even know I'm like oh my God I don't even know I'm like oh my God I don't even know what to think about this right now but what to think about this right now but what to think about this right now but he's giving him the ban rules take the he's giving him the ban rules take the he's giving him the ban rules take the train never ever ever do it when he's train never ever ever do it when he's train never ever ever do it when he's flying his helicopter and he gets pulled flying his helicopter and he gets pulled flying his helicopter and he gets pulled over want to give your advice a little over want to give your advice a little over want to give your advice a little or you're in the cycle yeah so did anyone did anyone sign cycle yeah so did anyone did anyone sign Rick um letter to Kim cook or write a Rick um letter to Kim cook or write a Rick um letter to Kim cook or write a letter did anyone copy and paste that I letter did anyone copy and paste that I letter did anyone copy and paste that I didn't see to did he request didn't see to did he request didn't see to did he request that that on a post I missed it we kind that that on a post I missed it we kind that that on a post I missed it we kind Dr that did oh I missed it

Dr that did oh I missed it Dr that did oh I missed it yeah no one did yeah no love there I yeah no one did yeah no love there I yeah no one did yeah no love there I think maybe he I think maybe he uh heed think maybe he I think maybe he uh heed think maybe he I think maybe he uh heed out a bit maybe that's why he's not on out a bit maybe that's why he's not on out a bit maybe that's why he's not on but uh I'm teasing him so that he'll get but uh I'm teasing him so that he'll get but uh I'm teasing him so that he'll get on got P him in here even though we ran on got P him in here even though we ran on got P him in here even though we ran out of things even though we ran out of out of things even though we ran out of out of things even though we ran out of things to talk about after 30 episodes things to talk about after 30 episodes things to talk about after 30 episodes and so I totally get why he's not here and so I totally get why he's not here and so I totally get why he's not here you I'm sure he was amped up within the you I'm sure he was amped up within the you I'm sure he was amped up within the you know few hours of that and then he you know few hours of that and then he you know few hours of that and then he calmed down after that he was good yeah calmed down after that he was good yeah calmed down after that he was good yeah he's probably just doing some mountain he's probably just doing some mountain he's probably just doing some mountain biking in Montana or something right now biking in Montana or something right now biking in Montana or something right now yeah yeah let those idiots go and jump yeah yeah let those idiots go and jump yeah yeah let those idiots go and jump on on on the on web three and so Leonard are the on web three and so Leonard are the on web three and so Leonard are there any are there any events happening there any are there any events happening there any are there any events happening today or are you flying back to San today or are you flying back to San today or are you flying back to San Diego uh no I'm flying back to San Diego Diego uh no I'm flying back to San Diego Diego uh no I'm flying back to San Diego uh I'm just going to try to get some uh I'm just going to try to get some uh I'm just going to try to get some work done and um yeah just headed back work done and um yeah just headed back work done and um yeah just headed back home well I'm excited for my agies home well I'm excited for my agies home well I'm excited for my agies they're in Omaha and their one went away they're in Omaha and their one went away they're in Omaha and their one went away from final two wow that's pretty big from final two wow that's pretty big from final two wow that's pretty big deal they played a night 6 pm and for deal they played a night 6 pm and for deal they played a night 6 pm and for all you people who don't know what all you people who don't know what all you people who don't know what baseball baseball baseball is that's why they're in Omaha please me is that's why they're in Omaha please me is that's why they're in Omaha please me all it World Series yeah ah yes how is all it World Series yeah ah yes how is all it World Series yeah ah yes how is that World Series that only happens in that World Series that only happens in that World Series that only happens in America right America right America right yeah wait what Demetri is there some yeah wait what Demetri is there some yeah wait what Demetri is there some other country outside of America

what we what we ask another world ask another world ask another world series Stephanie is there anything other series Stephanie is there anything other series Stephanie is there anything other A&M related that you need to tell us A&M related that you need to tell us A&M related that you need to tell us about from the last few days let's see about from the last few days let's see about from the last few days let's see I'm going to a I'm going to College I'm going to a I'm going to College I'm going to a I'm going to College Station tomorrow no no no is there Station tomorrow no no no is there Station tomorrow no no no is there anything that happened a few days ago anything that happened a few days ago anything that happened a few days ago that was the biggest thing in history that was the biggest thing in history that was the biggest thing in history that& reled they broke a record 110,000 that& reled they broke a record 110,000 that& reled they broke a record 110,000 plus people at callfield to see George plus people at callfield to see George plus people at callfield to see George St sing concert wow it's 110,000 so it's St sing concert wow it's 110,000 so it's St sing concert wow it's 110,000 so it's the largest concert so they broke the the largest concert so they broke the the largest concert so they broke the record it's the largest concert in record it's the largest concert in record it's the largest concert in history he broke the record previous history he broke the record previous history he broke the record previous The Grateful Dead even though George The Grateful Dead even though George The Grateful Dead even though George trait has retired a million times and trait has retired a million times and trait has retired a million times and said he's no longer singing he has he said he's no longer singing he has he said he's no longer singing he has he keeps coming back keeps coming back keeps coming back yeah mum and George straight and there yeah mum and George straight and there yeah mum and George straight and there was another female artist I wasn't was another female artist I wasn't was another female artist I wasn't familiar with I don't wow but everybody familiar with I don't wow but everybody familiar with I don't wow but everybody was I saw that picture going around I was I saw that picture going around I was I saw that picture going around I didn't know Kyle Field held that many didn't know Kyle Field held that many didn't know Kyle Field held that many people that's pretty insane well you people that's pretty insane well you people that's pretty insane well you have to think about it though they have to think about it though they have to think about it though they opened the field yeah yeah but it it is opened the field yeah yeah but it it is opened the field yeah yeah but it it is one of the largest um football stadiums one of the largest um football stadiums one of the largest um football stadiums in the United States it's the largest in in the United States it's the largest in in the United States it's the largest in the SEC yeah I still kind of just the SEC yeah I still kind of just the SEC yeah I still kind of just thinking about A&M being an thinking about A&M being an thinking about A&M being an SEC and Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC and Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC and Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC it's all wrong it's just wrong we SEC it's all wrong it's just wrong we SEC it's all wrong it's just wrong we need to go back to the Southwest need to go back to the Southwest need to go back to the Southwest Conference like the good old days yeah Conference like the good old days yeah Conference like the good old days yeah that's that's that's classic did you know too that they held

classic did you know too that they held classic did you know too that they held a Mexico versus Brazil game the week a Mexico versus Brazil game the week a Mexico versus Brazil game the week prior to the George straight or prior prior to the George straight or prior prior to the George straight or prior and it was so A&M like field is starting and it was so A&M like field is starting and it was so A&M like field is starting to host some crazy things like it's that to host some crazy things like it's that to host some crazy things like it's that was huge for them to host Mexico versus was huge for them to host Mexico versus was huge for them to host Mexico versus Brazil yeah I understand I understand Brazil yeah I understand I understand Brazil yeah I understand I understand the word crazy associated with Texas A&M the word crazy associated with Texas A&M the word crazy associated with Texas A&M I get that completely I get that completely I get that completely stop stop stop stop stop stop it oh my gosh no that's that's exciting it oh my gosh no that's that's exciting it oh my gosh no that's that's exciting Good Times yeah I gotta go I gotta do Good Times yeah I gotta go I gotta do Good Times yeah I gotta go I gotta do orientation with the sun um on Thursday orientation with the sun um on Thursday orientation with the sun um on Thursday and Friday yeah that's exciting that's and Friday yeah that's exciting that's and Friday yeah that's exciting that's good stuff good stuff good stuff I'm loving that I'm G to dial in next I'm loving that I'm G to dial in next I'm loving that I'm G to dial in next week from Milan Italy so we have week from Milan Italy so we have week from Milan Italy so we have ourl Amia Innovation Forum in Milan if ourl Amia Innovation Forum in Milan if ourl Amia Innovation Forum in Milan if anyone's in the area awesome send me a anyone's in the area awesome send me a anyone's in the area awesome send me a message I'll get you get you in there message I'll get you get you in there message I'll get you get you in there and we're gonna have few hundred few and we're gonna have few hundred few and we're gonna have few hundred few hundred folks talking about tiny ml hundred folks talking about tiny ml hundred folks talking about tiny ml things so it' be exciting awesome and I things so it' be exciting awesome and I things so it' be exciting awesome and I saw that you guys have a collaboration saw that you guys have a collaboration saw that you guys have a collaboration with 5V media that sounds yes 5V is our with 5V media that sounds yes 5V is our with 5V media that sounds yes 5V is our new media partner we're we're rebooting new media partner we're we're rebooting new media partner we're we're rebooting uh tiny ml talks which is a weekly of uh tiny ml talks which is a weekly of uh tiny ml talks which is a weekly of chalk talk on um all kinds of tiny ml chalk talk on um all kinds of tiny ml chalk talk on um all kinds of tiny ml Tech topics so they're going to reboot Tech topics so they're going to reboot Tech topics so they're going to reboot that with me and got some great guests that with me and got some great guests that with me and got some great guests coming up on that too so yeah good coming up on that too so yeah good coming up on that too so yeah good that's exciting yeah does tiny ml that's exciting yeah does tiny ml that's exciting yeah does tiny ml qualify for AI at the qualify for AI at the qualify for AI at the edge sure and we're all about applications industrial iot applications

applications industrial iot applications sure definitely yes tons agriculture sure definitely yes tons agriculture sure definitely yes tons agriculture Water Water Water Management you know manufacturing Management you know manufacturing Management you know manufacturing pedestrian safety Mak it pedestrian safety Mak it pedestrian safety Mak it matter about all that stuff next week matter about all that stuff next week matter about all that stuff next week the small the small Expo I saw in in the small the small Expo I saw in in the small the small Expo I saw in in burning game was mostly about industrial burning game was mostly about industrial burning game was mostly about industrial youth cases if I remember well yeah a youth cases if I remember well yeah a youth cases if I remember well yeah a lot of industrial yeah lot of lot of industrial yeah lot of lot of industrial yeah lot of Agriculture too I noticed and energy Agriculture too I noticed and energy Agriculture too I noticed and energy agure and Industrial yeah lot of vision agure and Industrial yeah lot of vision agure and Industrial yeah lot of vision any anything anytime there's actually any anything anytime there's actually any anything anytime there's actually real valuable AI happening in the real real valuable AI happening in the real real valuable AI happening in the real world with real impact then it's world with real impact then it's world with real impact then it's probably tiny ml AG AI not probably tiny ml AG AI not probably tiny ml AG AI not not the chatbot Scarlet Johansson stuff not the chatbot Scarlet Johansson stuff not the chatbot Scarlet Johansson stuff that we've been that we've been that we've been talking talking talking and you should you should probably keep and you should you should probably keep and you should you should probably keep on calling it tiny ML and not tiny AI on calling it tiny ML and not tiny AI on calling it tiny ML and not tiny AI because your machine learning is a because your machine learning is a because your machine learning is a discipline that actually delers for you discipline that actually delers for you discipline that actually delers for you definitely not tiny chatbot tiny chatbot definitely not tiny chatbot tiny chatbot definitely not tiny chatbot tiny chatbot tiny co-pilot co-pilot tiny that's a tiny co-pilot co-pilot tiny that's a tiny co-pilot co-pilot tiny that's a good good good one all right let's let's go way way one all right let's let's go way way one all right let's let's go way way back in time um from early days of back in time um from early days of back in time um from early days of windows does anybody remember tiny windows does anybody remember tiny windows does anybody remember tiny Elvis both both from Saturday Night Live Elvis both both from Saturday Night Live Elvis both both from Saturday Night Live There was Saturday Night Live and then There was Saturday Night Live and then There was Saturday Night Live and then it was a little application that you it was a little application that you it was a little application that you could run on Windows like Windows 31 and could run on Windows like Windows 31 and could run on Windows like Windows 31 and of course it would it of course it would it of course it would it would Windows 95 was Backward Compatible would Windows 95 was Backward Compatible would Windows 95 was Backward Compatible of course um anyway there was some of course um anyway there was some of course um anyway there was some ridiculous skit on SNL a thousand years ridiculous skit on SNL a thousand years ridiculous skit on SNL a thousand years ago about tiny Elvis you can look it up

ago about tiny Elvis you can look it up ago about tiny Elvis you can look it up and then someone built an app it was it and then someone built an app it was it and then someone built an app it was it was an animated icon of Elvis and he was was an animated icon of Elvis and he was was an animated icon of Elvis and he was sitting there doing Elvis motions and sitting there doing Elvis motions and sitting there doing Elvis motions and stuff like that on your stuff like that on your stuff like that on your desktop and and he'd say stupid things desktop and and he'd say stupid things desktop and and he'd say stupid things like well that's a big desktop you got like well that's a big desktop you got like well that's a big desktop you got there there there anyway I might as well just be put to anyway I might as well just be put to anyway I might as well just be put to sleep at this point that is a good chunk sleep at this point that is a good chunk sleep at this point that is a good chunk of interesting information anyways there's a lot of information anyways there's a lot of silly apps out silly apps out silly apps out there yeah like silly walks more there yeah like silly walks more there yeah like silly walks more you know I'm out you're out maybe you know I'm out you're out maybe you know I'm out you're out maybe we maybe we should all be out yes we maybe we should all be out yes we maybe we should all be out yes Stephanie can you take us Stephanie can you take us Stephanie can you take us out oh my goodness what do we talk about out oh my goodness what do we talk about out oh my goodness what do we talk about today we well we talked a about a lot of today we well we talked a about a lot of today we well we talked a about a lot of BS with co-pilot and S geni Miss we BS with co-pilot and S geni Miss we BS with co-pilot and S geni Miss we talked about um industrial iot what talked about um industrial iot what talked about um industrial iot what where are we going right where are we where are we going right where are we where are we going right where are we going we talked about the maggies who going we talked about the maggies who going we talked about the maggies who now the big the big thing that we want now the big the big thing that we want now the big the big thing that we want we want to share with you guys is about we want to share with you guys is about we want to share with you guys is about Elevate our kids it's it's been a while Elevate our kids it's it's been a while Elevate our kids it's it's been a while since we really bumped some things up since we really bumped some things up since we really bumped some things up there we got to get some action going on there we got to get some action going on there we got to get some action going on with Elevate our kids we need to need to with Elevate our kids we need to need to with Elevate our kids we need to need to reconnect Leonard with Hawaii they have reconnect Leonard with Hawaii they have reconnect Leonard with Hawaii they have not followed up with me by the way not followed up with me by the way not followed up with me by the way really weird go we've got a good chunk really weird go we've got a good chunk really weird go we've got a good chunk of chain sitting in our elevat our kids of chain sitting in our elevat our kids of chain sitting in our elevat our kids account and we want to go out and buy account and we want to go out and buy account and we want to go out and buy some laptops for kids that are in need

some laptops for kids that are in need some laptops for kids that are in need so um hopefully we can get so um hopefully we can get so um hopefully we can get some if we can't do it with Hawaii we some if we can't do it with Hawaii we some if we can't do it with Hawaii we need to find another need to find another need to find another location really soon because we've got location really soon because we've got location really soon because we've got funds that we're that are ready to funds that we're that are ready to funds that we're that are ready to speaking of devices which we talked speaking of devices which we talked speaking of devices which we talked about today we need to go out about today we need to go out about today we need to go out and is made for these and is made for these and is made for these students so um we would love for you to students so um we would love for you to students so um we would love for you to support elevator kids.org go you can go support elevator kids.org go you can go support elevator kids.org go you can go there you can make a donation a oneoff there you can make a donation a oneoff there you can make a donation a oneoff you can make a big donation and be part you can make a big donation and be part you can make a big donation and be part of um iot coffee talk or you can go on of um iot coffee talk or you can go on of um iot coffee talk or you can go on there and there's some links where you there and there's some links where you there and there's some links where you can buy the t-shirts and some of our can buy the t-shirts and some of our can buy the t-shirts and some of our swag for iot coffee talk and support our swag for iot coffee talk and support our swag for iot coffee talk and support our cuse in our um podcast here today so and cuse in our um podcast here today so and cuse in our um podcast here today so and you can find iot coffe talk at iot cofy you can find iot coffe talk at iot cofy you can find iot coffe talk at iot cofy talk.com anywhere where you have talk.com anywhere where you have talk.com anywhere where you have streaming you'll find us and we X or r streaming you'll find us and we X or r streaming you'll find us and we X or r or whatever but you'll still find or whatever but you'll still find or whatever but you'll still find us y do you like it or not we'll find us y do you like it or not we'll find us y do you like it or not we'll find you you you and find you follow up with the and find you follow up with the and find you follow up with the rabbit on how that's working and then he rabbit on how that's working and then he rabbit on how that's working and then he back from Leonard on his final trip here back from Leonard on his final trip here back from Leonard on his final trip here in I I should get some machines so I'm in I I should get some machines so I'm in I I should get some machines so I'm gonna be testing these new um Snapdragon gonna be testing these new um Snapdragon gonna be testing these new um Snapdragon X Series machines from Lenovo so I'll X Series machines from Lenovo so I'll X Series machines from Lenovo so I'll give an update on that as well so give an update on that as well so give an update on that as well so awesome all right guys see later take awesome all right guys see later take awesome all right guys see later take care bye guys bye bye

care bye guys bye bye care bye guys bye bye oh oh oh [Music]