IoT Coffee Talk CES 2025 Special

hey everyone this is uh what are we hey everyone this is uh what are we doing oh yeah iot Coffee Talk Special doing oh yeah iot Coffee Talk Special doing oh yeah iot Coffee Talk Special Edition Edition Edition specialed from CES 2025 and we're here specialed from CES 2025 and we're here specialed from CES 2025 and we're here at the at the at the malio yes very fancy fancy schmancy malio yes very fancy fancy schmancy malio yes very fancy fancy schmancy place fancy schmancy and I'm place fancy schmancy and I'm place fancy schmancy and I'm here with Pete Bernard one of our iot here with Pete Bernard one of our iot here with Pete Bernard one of our iot coffee talkers and Pete is with Leonard coffee talkers and Pete is with Leonard coffee talkers and Pete is with Leonard Lee there you go one of the iot coffee Lee there you go one of the iot coffee Lee there you go one of the iot coffee talkers right hey it's good to to see talkers right hey it's good to to see talkers right hey it's good to to see you here in Vegas another long day of uh you here in Vegas another long day of uh you here in Vegas another long day of uh new inventions new capabil ities new new inventions new capabil ities new new inventions new capabil ities new technologies a lot of new vacuum vacuum technologies a lot of new vacuum vacuum technologies a lot of new vacuum vacuum cleaners right yes lots of vacuum cleaners right yes lots of vacuum cleaners right yes lots of vacuum cleaners it's kind of cleaners it's kind of cleaners it's kind of ridiculous so what do you think about ridiculous so what do you think about ridiculous so what do you think about the the the show oh wait wait wait wait wait wait show oh wait wait wait wait wait wait show oh wait wait wait wait wait wait before we get started remember we got to before we get started remember we got to before we get started remember we got to do our disclaimer right yeah um we'd do our disclaimer right yeah um we'd do our disclaimer right yeah um we'd like to tell everyone take it like to tell everyone take it like to tell everyone take it seriously at your own risk there you go seriously at your own risk there you go seriously at your own risk there you go and as we say if you do something stupid and as we say if you do something stupid and as we say if you do something stupid based on anything that we say um it's based on anything that we say um it's based on anything that we say um it's entirely your fault on your own you're entirely your fault on your own you're entirely your fault on your own you're on your own yes and you must point the on your own yes and you must point the on your own yes and you must point the finger at yourself there you go and deal finger at yourself there you go and deal finger at yourself there you go and deal with it okay so with that enjoy our with it okay so with that enjoy our with it okay so with that enjoy our little conversation here yeah I saw a little conversation here yeah I saw a little conversation here yeah I saw a lot of cool like sensor-based Solutions lot of cool like sensor-based Solutions lot of cool like sensor-based Solutions out there I saw a cool solution to out there I saw a cool solution to out there I saw a cool solution to detect whether the car pulling into the

detect whether the car pulling into the detect whether the car pulling into the EV charging spot was actually an EV it EV charging spot was actually an EV it EV charging spot was actually an EV it was like a sensor that detected magnetic was like a sensor that detected magnetic was like a sensor that detected magnetic uh patterns and so if you pulled your uh patterns and so if you pulled your uh patterns and so if you pulled your ice car into an EV slot it would send ice car into an EV slot it would send ice car into an EV slot it would send off warning lights and stuff uhhuh uh so off warning lights and stuff uhhuh uh so off warning lights and stuff uhhuh uh so it would keep like only the right cars it would keep like only the right cars it would keep like only the right cars in there I saw that I also saw somebody in there I saw that I also saw somebody in there I saw that I also saw somebody it was a company in France and they had it was a company in France and they had it was a company in France and they had instrumented instrumented instrumented oysters yeah they had put sensors on oysters yeah they had put sensors on oysters yeah they had put sensors on oysters to detect uh the quality of the oysters to detect uh the quality of the oysters to detect uh the quality of the water so basically on the oyster water so basically on the oyster water so basically on the oyster movements really you could detect how movements really you could detect how movements really you could detect how good how high quality the water was uh good how high quality the water was uh good how high quality the water was uh the only issue is you had to glue a the only issue is you had to glue a the only issue is you had to glue a bunch of sensors on oysters that was the bunch of sensors on oysters that was the bunch of sensors on oysters that was the only gotcha but um oh my God other than only gotcha but um oh my God other than only gotcha but um oh my God other than that seemed like a good idea yeah a lot that seemed like a good idea yeah a lot that seemed like a good idea yeah a lot of sensors out there of sensors out there of sensors out there yeah yeah yeah okay yeah but it's got a I mean the okay yeah but it's got a I mean the okay yeah but it's got a I mean the sensors might be cheap but it might cost sensors might be cheap but it might cost sensors might be cheap but it might cost like a pretty penny right imagine the like a pretty penny right imagine the like a pretty penny right imagine the cost of gluing oh yeah sensor on each cost of gluing oh yeah sensor on each cost of gluing oh yeah sensor on each oyster I oyster I oyster I know but no I mean I think part of it is know but no I mean I think part of it is know but no I mean I think part of it is is like sensors sensor networks you know is like sensors sensor networks you know is like sensors sensor networks you know AI on the edge I mean the stuff people AI on the edge I mean the stuff people AI on the edge I mean the stuff people are doing stuff yeah they're doing real are doing stuff yeah they're doing real are doing stuff yeah they're doing real stuff you know what here's a here's a stuff you know what here's a here's a stuff you know what here's a here's a thing I think iot is going to be a big thing I think iot is going to be a big thing I think iot is going to be a big thing not not in like the ridiculous thing not not in like the ridiculous thing not not in like the ridiculous silly way that you know every thought silly way that you know every thought silly way that you know every thought everyone thought it was going to be uh everyone thought it was going to be uh everyone thought it was going to be uh when you know we had that first hump of when you know we had that first hump of when you know we had that first hump of nonsense yeah uh I know I I think it's

nonsense yeah uh I know I I think it's nonsense yeah uh I know I I think it's actually going to be pretty practical actually going to be pretty practical actually going to be pretty practical and it the necessity is going to be and it the necessity is going to be and it the necessity is going to be really driven really driven really driven by uh this need to make uh you know by uh this need to make uh you know by uh this need to make uh you know provide context to these AI xyz's right provide context to these AI xyz's right provide context to these AI xyz's right applications and so we'll probably see a applications and so we'll probably see a applications and so we'll probably see a bump I think you know there may be a bump I think you know there may be a bump I think you know there may be a little bit of a a bubish type Dynamic little bit of a a bubish type Dynamic little bit of a a bubish type Dynamic that plays out but you know I think that plays out but you know I think that plays out but you know I think there's going to be a a Revival but the there's going to be a a Revival but the there's going to be a a Revival but the nice thing is here's a cool thing I I nice thing is here's a cool thing I I nice thing is here's a cool thing I I noticed that the the you know like the C noticed that the the you know like the C noticed that the the you know like the C uh uh uh the the AI that works that we always the the AI that works that we always the the AI that works that we always talk about is actually getting some talk about is actually getting some talk about is actually getting some traction I think the Halo effective traction I think the Halo effective traction I think the Halo effective generative AI hype is has generative AI hype is has generative AI hype is has benefited that whole you know sort of benefited that whole you know sort of benefited that whole you know sort of foundational AI layer right and I think foundational AI layer right and I think foundational AI layer right and I think that can drive a healthy I think that's that can drive a healthy I think that's that can drive a healthy I think that's important healthy demand for iot type important healthy demand for iot type important healthy demand for iot type Solutions because you know everyone Solutions because you know everyone Solutions because you know everyone talks about talks about talks about data but it's not data that's as data but it's not data that's as data but it's not data that's as important as you know being able to important as you know being able to important as you know being able to establish context and yes obviously data establish context and yes obviously data establish context and yes obviously data is going to be an input into it right is going to be an input into it right is going to be an input into it right but you need to be able to translate all but you need to be able to translate all but you need to be able to translate all that into a contextual set of that into a contextual set of that into a contextual set of information right yeah that's where I information right yeah that's where I information right yeah that's where I think a lot of folks are realizing if we

think a lot of folks are realizing if we think a lot of folks are realizing if we want to get good AI applications we need want to get good AI applications we need want to get good AI applications we need to ass to ass to ass that that contextual Corpus that's real that that contextual Corpus that's real that that contextual Corpus that's real time and is able to support the fality time and is able to support the fality time and is able to support the fality all that crap you're to focused on the all that crap you're to focused on the all that crap you're to focused on the solution so yeah seeing a lot of uh you solution so yeah seeing a lot of uh you solution so yeah seeing a lot of uh you know working the tech back from the know working the tech back from the know working the tech back from the problem the problem the solution to the problem the problem the solution to the problem the problem the solution to the tech it was actually in the Venetian tech it was actually in the Venetian tech it was actually in the Venetian there was like a really cool Pavilion there was like a really cool Pavilion there was like a really cool Pavilion from Japan a lot of uh folks from Japan from Japan a lot of uh folks from Japan from Japan a lot of uh folks from Japan doing innovative solutions and it was doing innovative solutions and it was doing innovative solutions and it was like uh Aging in place like uh Aging in place like uh Aging in place Solutions and all kinds of really cool Solutions and all kinds of really cool Solutions and all kinds of really cool stuff where you're using AI you know for stuff where you're using AI you know for stuff where you're using AI you know for like very good like real world Solutions like very good like real world Solutions like very good like real world Solutions and like working back from that yeah um and like working back from that yeah um and like working back from that yeah um I some somewhat of a Counterpoint to the I some somewhat of a Counterpoint to the I some somewhat of a Counterpoint to the to the vacuums with the robot arm that to the vacuums with the robot arm that to the vacuums with the robot arm that comes out and picks up the sock socks comes out and picks up the sock socks comes out and picks up the sock socks just kind of like poster child for like just kind of like poster child for like just kind of like poster child for like what the hell come on you know we have what the hell come on you know we have what the hell come on you know we have let's let's be honest picking up socks let's let's be honest picking up socks let's let's be honest picking up socks is not a trivial thing it's actually is not a trivial thing it's actually is not a trivial thing it's actually pretty hard to do it's just that you pretty hard to do it's just that you pretty hard to do it's just that you know it only has one arm and only picks know it only has one arm and only picks know it only has one arm and only picks up one sock and everyone knows there's up one sock and everyone knows there's up one sock and everyone knows there's always two socks so now you got to get always two socks so now you got to get always two socks so now you got to get two vacuums one picking up each sock two vacuums one picking up each sock two vacuums one picking up each sock right right but uh no I saw a lot of right right but uh no I saw a lot of right right but uh no I saw a lot of cool like uh you know practical cool like uh you know practical cool like uh you know practical implementations I would say which is implementations I would say which is implementations I would say which is really good to see you not too much really good to see you not too much really good to see you not too much behind in the sky I saw Tre introduced a behind in the sky I saw Tre introduced a behind in the sky I saw Tre introduced a mountain bike that had Ai and the

mountain bike that had Ai and the mountain bike that had Ai and the sensors so you could I think they even sensors so you could I think they even sensors so you could I think they even said there like an llm on it I don't said there like an llm on it I don't said there like an llm on it I don't know what that means you like talk to it know what that means you like talk to it know what that means you like talk to it for the gears or something but you're for the gears or something but you're for the gears or something but you're seeing like mountain bikes taking all seeing like mountain bikes taking all seeing like mountain bikes taking all this sensor data and doing like gearing this sensor data and doing like gearing this sensor data and doing like gearing and other things on the Fly you know to and other things on the Fly you know to and other things on the Fly you know to kind of smooth the write out stuff so kind of smooth the write out stuff so kind of smooth the write out stuff so that's a really cool now the tech is that's a really cool now the tech is that's a really cool now the tech is like here people are starting to use it like here people are starting to use it like here people are starting to use it in some practical applications so yeah in some practical applications so yeah in some practical applications so yeah you know I mean you know the weird thing you know I mean you know the weird thing you know I mean you know the weird thing is I I thought there was going to be a is I I thought there was going to be a is I I thought there was going to be a lot more of like sort of this uh a lot more of like sort of this uh a lot more of like sort of this uh a gentic stuff you know at least people gentic stuff you know at least people gentic stuff you know at least people like tinkering with it putting it like tinkering with it putting it like tinkering with it putting it out and uh trying to create a buzz out and uh trying to create a buzz out and uh trying to create a buzz around it right and there wasn't as much around it right and there wasn't as much around it right and there wasn't as much as I thought there would be even though as I thought there would be even though as I thought there would be even though you know it looks like you know Samsung you know it looks like you know Samsung you know it looks like you know Samsung is going is going is going to uh is going to bring Bali to Market I to uh is going to bring Bali to Market I to uh is going to bring Bali to Market I don't know if you know about that it's don't know if you know about that it's don't know if you know about that it's that little ball thing that looks like a that little ball thing that looks like a that little ball thing that looks like a yeah I think I saw that it's like a yeah I think I saw that it's like a yeah I think I saw that it's like a little Droid right yeah yeah and then little Droid right yeah yeah and then little Droid right yeah yeah and then TCL has has one it's called My me or my TCL has has one it's called My me or my TCL has has one it's called My me or my or hey this or that hey AI or hey this or that hey AI or hey this or that hey AI something and uh and so there I think something and uh and so there I think something and uh and so there I think there's a lot of Chinese companies that there's a lot of Chinese companies that there's a lot of Chinese companies that are kind of fast following that that are kind of fast following that that are kind of fast following that that concept and you know um I mean we'll see concept and you know um I mean we'll see concept and you know um I mean we'll see what happens I think they're kind of what happens I think they're kind of what happens I think they're kind of cool um whether or not they're going to cool um whether or not they're going to cool um whether or not they're going to get traction we'll see but yeah um I I I get traction we'll see but yeah um I I I get traction we'll see but yeah um I I I mean I do I do find I do see that they

mean I do I do find I do see that they mean I do I do find I do see that they could have a benefit because you know could have a benefit because you know could have a benefit because you know think about you know security home think about you know security home think about you know security home security right having one of those security right having one of those security right having one of those little dads like running around and uh little dads like running around and uh little dads like running around and uh having at least enough uh intelligence having at least enough uh intelligence having at least enough uh intelligence and uh uh you know capability to respond and uh uh you know capability to respond and uh uh you know capability to respond to any kind of let's say audio some kind to any kind of let's say audio some kind to any kind of let's say audio some kind of physical or yeah well I remember the of physical or yeah well I remember the of physical or yeah well I remember the Astro remember the Astro robot from Astro remember the Astro robot from Astro remember the Astro robot from Amazon that was kind of ahead of its Amazon that was kind of ahead of its Amazon that was kind of ahead of its time right yeah yeah yeah we kind of time right yeah yeah yeah we kind of time right yeah yeah yeah we kind of patrol around and like send up its patrol around and like send up its patrol around and like send up its little camera and yeah but you know one little camera and yeah but you know one little camera and yeah but you know one of the things that I I also started to of the things that I I also started to of the things that I I also started to see and I heard about quite a bit is is see and I heard about quite a bit is is see and I heard about quite a bit is is well you know there is actually home you well you know there is actually home you well you know there is actually home you know the smart home thing was like know the smart home thing was like know the smart home thing was like really big this year that's like one of really big this year that's like one of really big this year that's like one of the things that really stood out if you the things that really stood out if you the things that really stood out if you listen to the uh whether it was the LG listen to the uh whether it was the LG listen to the uh whether it was the LG or the Samsung or uh you know like or the Samsung or uh you know like or the Samsung or uh you know like Amazon uh um you know either press Amazon uh um you know either press Amazon uh um you know either press events Keynotes or even just the stuff events Keynotes or even just the stuff events Keynotes or even just the stuff that they're showing in their brots even that they're showing in their brots even that they're showing in their brots even Panasonic and a lot of the Japanese Panasonic and a lot of the Japanese Panasonic and a lot of the Japanese brands right and the Chinese brand I brands right and the Chinese brand I brands right and the Chinese brand I mean there's a huge focus on uh smart mean there's a huge focus on uh smart mean there's a huge focus on uh smart home yeah you know and then creating home yeah you know and then creating home yeah you know and then creating these um intelligent these um intelligent these um intelligent hubs uh ai ai hubs right hubs uh ai ai hubs right hubs uh ai ai hubs right but some of these guys guys are actually but some of these guys guys are actually but some of these guys guys are actually looking at figuring out how do we create

looking at figuring out how do we create looking at figuring out how do we create how do we keep the data resident within how do we keep the data resident within how do we keep the data resident within the residence right and I think that's a the residence right and I think that's a the residence right and I think that's a big deal and you know what's really cool big deal and you know what's really cool big deal and you know what's really cool and encouraging is that there is a sense and encouraging is that there is a sense and encouraging is that there is a sense of uh you know priority around security of uh you know priority around security of uh you know priority around security and most importantly privacy yeah and and most importantly privacy yeah and and most importantly privacy yeah and that is like I think a huge yeah huge that is like I think a huge yeah huge that is like I think a huge yeah huge mindset shift that's happened that I mindset shift that's happened that I mindset shift that's happened that I think is really really a good thing you think is really really a good thing you think is really really a good thing you know and now these guys are moving mov know and now these guys are moving mov know and now these guys are moving mov toward you know like these privacy first toward you know like these privacy first toward you know like these privacy first architectures that hey Debbie Debbie architectures that hey Debbie Debbie architectures that hey Debbie Debbie Reynolds you and I have been talking Reynolds you and I have been talking Reynolds you and I have been talking about this for years right that's about this for years right that's about this for years right that's actually now starting to set in and actually now starting to set in and actually now starting to set in and we're starting to see um a lot of these we're starting to see um a lot of these we're starting to see um a lot of these big brands that are uh trying to come to big brands that are uh trying to come to big brands that are uh trying to come to the market with this next generation of the market with this next generation of the market with this next generation of smart right Home Solutions putting that smart right Home Solutions putting that smart right Home Solutions putting that at the Forefront but then also being at the Forefront but then also being at the Forefront but then also being thoughtful and how do we architect this thoughtful and how do we architect this thoughtful and how do we architect this thing I mean you we still have to get thing I mean you we still have to get thing I mean you we still have to get under the weeds and down down to like under the weeds and down down to like under the weeds and down down to like the second and third level underneath the second and third level underneath the second and third level underneath all the you know press releases and all the you know press releases and all the you know press releases and stuff but at least they're talking about stuff but at least they're talking about stuff but at least they're talking about it I think a lot of like the like you it I think a lot of like the like you it I think a lot of like the like you said like the home stuff maybe some of said like the home stuff maybe some of said like the home stuff maybe some of it was introduced a few years ago and it was introduced a few years ago and it was introduced a few years ago and didn't work very well and now the the didn't work very well and now the the didn't work very well and now the the Silicon has gotten more performant the Silicon has gotten more performant the Silicon has gotten more performant the cameras are better the sensors are cameras are better the sensors are cameras are better the sensors are better the now you have generative AI to better the now you have generative AI to better the now you have generative AI to do more you know analysis and so the do more you know analysis and so the do more you know analysis and so the whole it's the same idea but now it's whole it's the same idea but now it's whole it's the same idea but now it's just it's the implementation's better just it's the implementation's better just it's the implementation's better yeah so I think that's going to be so yeah so I think that's going to be so yeah so I think that's going to be so then I think an users get more value out

then I think an users get more value out then I think an users get more value out of it and hopefully buy more of it but of it and hopefully buy more of it but of it and hopefully buy more of it but uh sometimes it it's like sometimes uh sometimes it it's like sometimes uh sometimes it it's like sometimes ideas are a little ahead of the tech ideas are a little ahead of the tech ideas are a little ahead of the tech right where it's like oh let's have a right where it's like oh let's have a right where it's like oh let's have a fridge that counts how much milk you fridge that counts how much milk you fridge that counts how much milk you have and it's like well it actually have and it's like well it actually have and it's like well it actually doesn't work very well yeah but now it's doesn't work very well yeah but now it's doesn't work very well yeah but now it's like actually works better you're like actually works better you're like actually works better you're talking too smart have a drink okay talking too smart have a drink okay talking too smart have a drink okay please that's your please that's your please that's your problem no it's really good you know you problem no it's really good you know you problem no it's really good you know you know what's really sad is we had we know what's really sad is we had we know what's really sad is we had we we're going to have other iot Coffee we're going to have other iot Coffee we're going to have other iot Coffee Talk Talk Talk hosts here I mean Rob obviously it would hosts here I mean Rob obviously it would hosts here I mean Rob obviously it would have been nice if you could make it out have been nice if you could make it out have been nice if you could make it out here because you know you're usually out here because you know you're usually out here because you know you're usually out here Stephanie we missed out on you here Stephanie we missed out on you here Stephanie we missed out on you Steve you didn't show up dud action Steve you didn't show up dud action Steve you didn't show up dud action missing an action it's your fault blame missing an action it's your fault blame missing an action it's your fault blame yourself man Pete already gave you like yourself man Pete already gave you like yourself man Pete already gave you like the where we are and all that stuff so the where we are and all that stuff so the where we are and all that stuff so but we love you yes we all we we miss but we love you yes we all we we miss but we love you yes we all we we miss all of them but um yeah you know um it's all of them but um yeah you know um it's all of them but um yeah you know um it's just Pete and I holding down the fort just Pete and I holding down the fort just Pete and I holding down the fort here but uh down the fort yeah um coule here but uh down the fort yeah um coule here but uh down the fort yeah um coule days that that it I days that that it I days that that it I mean that that I mean that whole smart mean that that I mean that whole smart mean that that I mean that whole smart home thing it is weird that there is home thing it is weird that there is home thing it is weird that there is this kind of research and last week I this kind of research and last week I this kind of research and last week I don't know were you on last week no I don't know were you on last week no I don't know were you on last week no I missed it yeah you missed it yeah you missed it yeah you missed it yeah you missed it yeah you missed it yeah you know um I yeah this happened after I know um I yeah this happened after I know um I yeah this happened after I dropped off but they you know what is it dropped off but they you know what is it dropped off but they you know what is it Rob started talking about Apple town all Rob started talking about Apple town all Rob started talking about Apple town all oh that I remember that actually I think

oh that I remember that actually I think oh that I remember that actually I think it was on for that town Apple Town yeah it was on for that town Apple Town yeah it was on for that town Apple Town yeah well I think the idea was Apple was well I think the idea was Apple was well I think the idea was Apple was going to start to get into more of the going to start to get into more of the going to start to get into more of the home the home like the ring doorbell home the home like the ring doorbell home the home like the ring doorbell type stuff and and stuff but see that's type stuff and and stuff but see that's type stuff and and stuff but see that's why you have to watch iot coffee talk why you have to watch iot coffee talk why you have to watch iot coffee talk cuz we didn't know that they were going cuz we didn't know that they were going cuz we didn't know that they were going to be talking about this stuff this week to be talking about this stuff this week to be talking about this stuff this week ends up being like so you know props to ends up being like so you know props to ends up being like so you know props to Debbie Debbie Reynolds because you're Debbie Debbie Reynolds because you're Debbie Debbie Reynolds because you're the one that actually brought it up the one that actually brought it up the one that actually brought it up asked hey cof we talk guys what do you asked hey cof we talk guys what do you asked hey cof we talk guys what do you what do you think about this thing you what do you think about this thing you what do you think about this thing you know and then you know privacy was also know and then you know privacy was also know and then you know privacy was also at the center of a lot of that yeah no at the center of a lot of that yeah no at the center of a lot of that yeah no it was very prient although we didn't it was very prient although we didn't it was very prient although we didn't predict the the vacuum with the arm no I predict the the vacuum with the arm no I predict the the vacuum with the arm no I don't think anyone we nailed it don't think anyone we nailed it don't think anyone we nailed it otherwise but and actually now vacuums otherwise but and actually now vacuums otherwise but and actually now vacuums are like climbing on the windows or like are like climbing on the windows or like are like climbing on the windows or like washing windows yeah they like refilling washing windows yeah they like refilling washing windows yeah they like refilling the mop automatically yeah and like that the mop automatically yeah and like that the mop automatically yeah and like that my my my number one takeaway from the my my my number one takeaway from the my my my number one takeaway from the show is that my vacuum is old oh you're show is that my vacuum is old oh you're show is that my vacuum is old oh you're making you're making me jealous man it's making you're making me jealous man it's making you're making me jealous man it's like pretty cool stuff yeah but no I like pretty cool stuff yeah but no I like pretty cool stuff yeah but no I think like um you're seeing like I think think like um you're seeing like I think think like um you're seeing like I think a lot of this Tech that's like not just a lot of this Tech that's like not just a lot of this Tech that's like not just prototypes now but they're like actual prototypes now but they're like actual prototypes now but they're like actual production things so like work pretty production things so like work pretty production things so like work pretty well so we'll see if people buy it but well so we'll see if people buy it but well so we'll see if people buy it but it's pretty close yeah and I'm going to it's pretty close yeah and I'm going to it's pretty close yeah and I'm going to help uh I'm going to give it a shout out help uh I'm going to give it a shout out help uh I'm going to give it a shout out to to to Rob now I'm going I'm going to try to Rob now I'm going I'm going to try to Rob now I'm going I'm going to try to represent on your behalf so obviously represent on your behalf so obviously represent on your behalf so obviously everybody heard about like the everybody heard about like the everybody heard about like the you know Jensen's you know Jensen's you know Jensen's Nvidia uh digit yeah yeah that thingy

Nvidia uh digit yeah yeah that thingy Nvidia uh digit yeah yeah that thingy well no the whole thing and uh for the well no the whole thing and uh for the well no the whole thing and uh for the record all you have to do is go to record all you have to do is go to record all you have to do is go to LinkedIn and check his LinkedIn and check his LinkedIn and check his post Rob thought it was killer so just post Rob thought it was killer so just post Rob thought it was killer so just want everyone to know that so Rob if you want everyone to know that so Rob if you want everyone to know that so Rob if you were here I'm sure you would have said were here I'm sure you would have said were here I'm sure you would have said that so we're going to we're going to that so we're going to we're going to that so we're going to we're going to make that note on your behalf yes now I make that note on your behalf yes now I make that note on your behalf yes now I was saying like one of the cool things I was saying like one of the cool things I was saying like one of the cool things I got a lot of uh interest in this digits got a lot of uh interest in this digits got a lot of uh interest in this digits announcement yeah about this announcement yeah about this announcement yeah about this supercomputer on your desk and my take supercomputer on your desk and my take supercomputer on your desk and my take was that it's actually a great way for was that it's actually a great way for was that it's actually a great way for NVIDIA to kind of uh work around all the NVIDIA to kind of uh work around all the NVIDIA to kind of uh work around all the hyperscalers so basically instead of hyperscalers so basically instead of hyperscalers so basically instead of like buy doing development on Azure or like buy doing development on Azure or like buy doing development on Azure or gcp or AWS you do development on this gcp or AWS you do development on this gcp or AWS you do development on this Nvidia box and you deploy to any Nvidia Nvidia box and you deploy to any Nvidia Nvidia box and you deploy to any Nvidia friendly Cloud you want and so you don't friendly Cloud you want and so you don't friendly Cloud you want and so you don't actually need to be an Azure developer actually need to be an Azure developer actually need to be an Azure developer now to do AI or or an AWS developer so now to do AI or or an AWS developer so now to do AI or or an AWS developer so it's like an end run around the it's like an end run around the it's like an end run around the hyperscalers to make it an Nvidia metal hyperscalers to make it an Nvidia metal hyperscalers to make it an Nvidia metal to Cloud experience that's what I think to Cloud experience that's what I think to Cloud experience that's what I think digit is all about pretty cool okay yeah digit is all about pretty cool okay yeah digit is all about pretty cool okay yeah interesting I mean yeah I interesting I mean yeah I interesting I mean yeah I mean I okay here's my take I think mean I okay here's my take I think mean I okay here's my take I think people people people uh he said super Computing but it's not uh he said super Computing but it's not uh he said super Computing but it's not super Computing I mean just because you super Computing I mean just because you super Computing I mean just because you have have have Blackwell in there doesn't mean that you Blackwell in there doesn't mean that you Blackwell in there doesn't mean that you have a super computer right sure and um have a super computer right sure and um have a super computer right sure and um you know when when you look at like the

you know when when you look at like the you know when when you look at like the generative AI training generative AI training generative AI training workloads it really depends on what workloads it really depends on what workloads it really depends on what you're trying to shoot for so if you're you're trying to shoot for so if you're you're trying to shoot for so if you're doing like fine tuning maybe like post doing like fine tuning maybe like post doing like fine tuning maybe like post training maybe I I think it entirely training maybe I I think it entirely training maybe I I think it entirely depends depends obviously yeah your depends depends obviously yeah your depends depends obviously yeah your scenario I think it's just a cool way of scenario I think it's just a cool way of scenario I think it's just a cool way of for developers like I don't think it's for developers like I don't think it's for developers like I don't think it's ever going to get commcial ever going to get commcial ever going to get commcial not going to get yeah I mean I I mean I not going to get yeah I mean I I mean I not going to get yeah I mean I I mean I think if you're you're doing certain think if you're you're doing certain think if you're you're doing certain types of f fine tuning activities maybe types of f fine tuning activities maybe types of f fine tuning activities maybe it will work for that yeah but um yeah I it will work for that yeah but um yeah I it will work for that yeah but um yeah I mean well and definitely infer stuff mean well and definitely infer stuff mean well and definitely infer stuff right yeah so yeah but maybe it'll it'll right yeah so yeah but maybe it'll it'll right yeah so yeah but maybe it'll it'll fit in like sort of that overall fit in like sort of that overall fit in like sort of that overall development chain for for you know um development chain for for you know um development chain for for you know um training a model you know and then you training a model you know and then you training a model you know and then you know kind of shrinking it down into a know kind of shrinking it down into a know kind of shrinking it down into a edge of AI edge of AI edge of AI footprint good yeah I mean you know footprint good yeah I mean you know footprint good yeah I mean you know people use Nvidia orins and stuff all people use Nvidia orins and stuff all people use Nvidia orins and stuff all the time now too that being said though the time now too that being said though the time now too that being said though with the digits like all you can do is with the digits like all you can do is with the digits like all you can do is like put your name on a waiting list like put your name on a waiting list like put your name on a waiting list like you can't actually buy itot yeah like you can't actually buy itot yeah like you can't actually buy itot yeah and you know just so that our audience and you know just so that our audience and you know just so that our audience is clear look Blackwell just because you is clear look Blackwell just because you is clear look Blackwell just because you say Blackwell doesn't mean that all of a say Blackwell doesn't mean that all of a say Blackwell doesn't mean that all of a sudden you have a mvl sudden you have a mvl sudden you have a mvl 72 you know L rack mounted rack you know 72 you know L rack mounted rack you know 72 you know L rack mounted rack you know thingy on a tiny little box that's not thingy on a tiny little box that's not thingy on a tiny little box that's not it at all I mean basically what you know it at all I mean basically what you know it at all I mean basically what you know what is Blackwell it's basically two what is Blackwell it's basically two what is Blackwell it's basically two Hopper chips stitched together using

Hopper chips stitched together using Hopper chips stitched together using Coos and yeah it's like 1 + 1 = 2.5 Coos and yeah it's like 1 + 1 = 2.5 Coos and yeah it's like 1 + 1 = 2.5 right so right so right so um look I um look I um look I mean and and then if you look at the the mean and and then if you look at the the mean and and then if you look at the the entire system yeah like uh you know entire system yeah like uh you know entire system yeah like uh you know gb200 uh and 72 and you know Nvidia you gb200 uh and 72 and you know Nvidia you gb200 uh and 72 and you know Nvidia you got to come up with like more concise got to come up with like more concise got to come up with like more concise names you know it's like doesn't roll names you know it's like doesn't roll names you know it's like doesn't roll off the tongue all that off the tongue all that off the tongue all that easily but yeah go ahead easily but yeah go ahead easily but yeah go ahead but yeah you know you have to you have but yeah you know you have to you have but yeah you know you have to you have to think about this stuff in the right to think about this stuff in the right to think about this stuff in the right frame of mind right and understanding frame of mind right and understanding frame of mind right and understanding the architecture of these systems and the architecture of these systems and the architecture of these systems and when they say GPU what does the GPU when they say GPU what does the GPU when they say GPU what does the GPU actually mean right and it it gets actually mean right and it it gets actually mean right and it it gets really confusing yeah but it's cool it's really confusing yeah but it's cool it's really confusing yeah but it's cool it's cool Dev box for sure yeah oh no I I cool Dev box for sure yeah oh no I I cool Dev box for sure yeah oh no I I think it's it's super think it's it's super think it's it's super interesting reference slash Invidia is interesting reference slash Invidia is interesting reference slash Invidia is going to go going to go going to go and do their own thing kind of box but and do their own thing kind of box but and do their own thing kind of box but it's not it's not a co-pilot PC though it's not it's not a co-pilot PC though it's not it's not a co-pilot PC though oh come on oh come on oh come on dude if if you know what here's the dude if if you know what here's the dude if if you know what here's the interesting thing about that it is like interesting thing about that it is like interesting thing about that it is like basically uh Jensen kind of giving the basically uh Jensen kind of giving the basically uh Jensen kind of giving the middle finger did I I didn't do that I

middle finger did I I didn't do that I middle finger did I I didn't do that I have to edit my finger out yeah yeah have to edit my finger out yeah yeah have to edit my finger out yeah yeah yeah basically giving them middle finger yeah basically giving them middle finger yeah basically giving them middle finger to the mpu so there you have to the mpu so there you have to the mpu so there you have it there you go right exciting I don't I it there you go right exciting I don't I it there you go right exciting I don't I don't think Jensen's a big fan of the don't think Jensen's a big fan of the don't think Jensen's a big fan of the mpu no no I mean he's got his own path mpu no no I mean he's got his own path mpu no no I mean he's got his own path and uh but I think it's just great to and uh but I think it's just great to and uh but I think it's just great to like provide more platforms people to like provide more platforms people to like provide more platforms people to develop on and especially if you can develop on and especially if you can develop on and especially if you can bring a little piece of the cloud onto bring a little piece of the cloud onto bring a little piece of the cloud onto your desktop do development on that and your desktop do development on that and your desktop do development on that and then because there's all these other then because there's all these other then because there's all these other other clouds you know there's like U other clouds you know there's like U other clouds you know there's like U vulture you know and these other vulture you know and these other vulture you know and these other companies that are doing like very companies that are doing like very companies that are doing like very Nvidia dedicated yeah you know I would Nvidia dedicated yeah you know I would Nvidia dedicated yeah you know I would say micr clouds but other you know not say micr clouds but other you know not say micr clouds but other you know not hyperscalers and that's becoming pretty hyperscalers and that's becoming pretty hyperscalers and that's becoming pretty prevalent so you need development for prevalent so you need development for prevalent so you need development for that too yeah I mean I I think what's that too yeah I mean I I think what's that too yeah I mean I I think what's really cool though it's like you know really cool though it's like you know really cool though it's like you know GGC you brought up Groot you know they GGC you brought up Groot you know they GGC you brought up Groot you know they announced the new announced the new announced the new Cosmos uh World models as jensa calls Cosmos uh World models as jensa calls Cosmos uh World models as jensa calls them you know those are all but it it's them you know those are all but it it's them you know those are all but it it's nice packaging of things that they've nice packaging of things that they've nice packaging of things that they've been working on for quite some time you been working on for quite some time you been working on for quite some time you know so uh and there's no doubt they put know so uh and there's no doubt they put know so uh and there's no doubt they put together some really cool tool chains together some really cool tool chains together some really cool tool chains we'll just see that what how that how we'll just see that what how that how we'll just see that what how that how that influences what we're going to see that influences what we're going to see that influences what we're going to see in 2020 in 2020 in 2020 is it is it is it 2026 oh my God way out there I'm still 2026 oh my God way out there I'm still 2026 oh my God way out there I'm still in 2024 man I'm telling you I haven't in 2024 man I'm telling you I haven't in 2024 man I'm telling you I haven't left hard to believe I know maybe it'll

left hard to believe I know maybe it'll left hard to believe I know maybe it'll take like a couple of months for me take like a couple of months for me take like a couple of months for me to write the check you know you oh yeah to write the check you know you oh yeah to write the check you know you oh yeah yeah no it's amazing it's uh uh it's yeah no it's amazing it's uh uh it's yeah no it's amazing it's uh uh it's always a good interesting glimpse of the always a good interesting glimpse of the always a good interesting glimpse of the future here and uh and a little bit of future here and uh and a little bit of future here and uh and a little bit of craziness a little craziness throwing in craziness a little craziness throwing in craziness a little craziness throwing in so and oh by the way C is no longer a so and oh by the way C is no longer a so and oh by the way C is no longer a car show yeah no I would say that that's car show yeah no I would say that that's car show yeah no I would say that that's true not a car show no it's a vacuum true not a car show no it's a vacuum true not a car show no it's a vacuum show yes all about vacuums and um show yes all about vacuums and um show yes all about vacuums and um adtech adtech okay yeah I also you know adtech adtech okay yeah I also you know adtech adtech okay yeah I also you know the other thing I saw too the lwh the other thing I saw too the lwh the other thing I saw too the lwh hanging fruit of autonomous basically a hanging fruit of autonomous basically a hanging fruit of autonomous basically a vehicle that can navigate in a big vehicle that can navigate in a big vehicle that can navigate in a big fields where the probability of hitting fields where the probability of hitting fields where the probability of hitting a kid is very low yeah yeah the other a kid is very low yeah yeah the other a kid is very low yeah yeah the other thing I saw that was kind of cool was thing I saw that was kind of cool was thing I saw that was kind of cool was like these big like these big like these big speakers big party speakers with the speakers big party speakers with the speakers big party speakers with the lights everyone had those and it's like lights everyone had those and it's like lights everyone had those and it's like and what's cool is you but you you could and what's cool is you but you you could and what's cool is you but you you could sink and it'll take the voice out of the sink and it'll take the voice out of the sink and it'll take the voice out of the track so it's like almost like a karaoke track so it's like almost like a karaoke track so it's like almost like a karaoke oh yeah yeah but there like the I saw oh yeah yeah but there like the I saw oh yeah yeah but there like the I saw from Clips like like high quality stuff from Clips like like high quality stuff from Clips like like high quality stuff yeah yeah and uh these big party yeah yeah and uh these big party yeah yeah and uh these big party speakers is like the thing now the speakers is like the thing now the speakers is like the thing now the lights and the things so that was a that lights and the things so that was a that lights and the things so that was a that was a trend that's not generative AI was a trend that's not generative AI was a trend that's not generative AI people old school old school actually people old school old school actually people old school old school actually the stuff works say audio ml though it's the stuff works say audio ml though it's the stuff works say audio ml though it's audio ml audio ml there audio ml which

audio ml audio ml there audio ml which audio ml audio ml there audio ml which is like a hot thing keep it straight we is like a hot thing keep it straight we is like a hot thing keep it straight we got we're trying to keep AI audio ml got we're trying to keep AI audio ml got we're trying to keep AI audio ml very good don't get too excited no it's very good don't get too excited no it's very good don't get too excited no it's cool though but hey props to all the the cool though but hey props to all the the cool though but hey props to all the the ml guys like the classical guys that ml guys like the classical guys that ml guys like the classical guys that busted their butts trying to make all busted their butts trying to make all busted their butts trying to make all this stuff work you know that's the this stuff work you know that's the this stuff work you know that's the stuff that actually stuff that actually stuff that actually works yeah and so um what works yeah and so um what works yeah and so um what else um I saw the zuk the zuk's cab on else um I saw the zuk the zuk's cab on else um I saw the zuk the zuk's cab on Amazon it's pretty cool like that little Amazon it's pretty cool like that little Amazon it's pretty cool like that little little boxy thing I think they're I little boxy thing I think they're I little boxy thing I think they're I think they're driving around Vegas think they're driving around Vegas think they're driving around Vegas actually yeah yeah so some autonomous actually yeah yeah so some autonomous actually yeah yeah so some autonomous vehicles but uh but yeah not as many vehicles but uh but yeah not as many vehicles but uh but yeah not as many like cool cars and like car audio okay like cool cars and like car audio okay like cool cars and like car audio okay so here's the weird thing about auto so here's the weird thing about auto so here's the weird thing about auto automotive okay I saw a guy I met a guy automotive okay I saw a guy I met a guy automotive okay I saw a guy I met a guy from Prestone here really yeah the from Prestone here really yeah the from Prestone here really yeah the antifreeze so look out for new Prestone antifreeze so look out for new Prestone antifreeze so look out for new Prestone antifreeze coming antifreeze coming antifreeze coming out coolant that's right were they are out coolant that's right were they are out coolant that's right were they are they playing like smart dust in it so they playing like smart dust in it so they playing like smart dust in it so they they they can okay we see he had a very busy can okay we see he had a very busy can okay we see he had a very busy schedule of uh competing so but uh no no schedule of uh competing so but uh no no schedule of uh competing so but uh no no one of the interesting things about one of the interesting things about one of the interesting things about Automotive I mean it hasn't disappeared Automotive I mean it hasn't disappeared Automotive I mean it hasn't disappeared it's there it's there it's there definitely um STV you know software definitely um STV you know software definitely um STV you know software Divine vehicle yes there are companies Divine vehicle yes there are companies Divine vehicle yes there are companies out there that are actually I think out there that are actually I think out there that are actually I think they're more like SI that are are trying

they're more like SI that are are trying they're more like SI that are are trying to position or they are positioning to position or they are positioning to position or they are positioning themselves to help OEM you know uh or themselves to help OEM you know uh or themselves to help OEM you know uh or car manufacturers to make that car manufacturers to make that car manufacturers to make that transition which has been a bit more transition which has been a bit more transition which has been a bit more difficult or slower than a lot of people difficult or slower than a lot of people difficult or slower than a lot of people thought project thought project thought project um um um but um lot of testing so cyber physical but um lot of testing so cyber physical but um lot of testing so cyber physical testing not just like the digital testing not just like the digital testing not just like the digital simulation stuff but you know like guys simulation stuff but you know like guys simulation stuff but you know like guys like kyite and then uh you know on the like kyite and then uh you know on the like kyite and then uh you know on the physical side because they do test and physical side because they do test and physical side because they do test and measurement so they have all these measurement so they have all these measurement so they have all these solutions that they're offering to help solutions that they're offering to help solutions that they're offering to help automakers and as well as component automakers and as well as component automakers and as well as component manufacturers to test their equipment manufacturers to test their equipment manufacturers to test their equipment that might go into that might go into that might go into let's say a um Advanced let's say a um Advanced let's say a um Advanced Adas you know Adas you know Adas you know enabled smarter vehicle right and then enabled smarter vehicle right and then enabled smarter vehicle right and then you have like guys like Anis here which you have like guys like Anis here which you have like guys like Anis here which I was I was kind of surprised to see I was I was kind of surprised to see I was I was kind of surprised to see them that provide a lot of that you know them that provide a lot of that you know them that provide a lot of that you know the the uh physics uh physics models and the the uh physics uh physics models and the the uh physics uh physics models and uh all that and simulations that Rick uh all that and simulations that Rick uh all that and simulations that Rick Bola always talks about and which he Bola always talks about and which he Bola always talks about and which he would talk about if he ever freaking would talk about if he ever freaking would talk about if he ever freaking showed up on the show you know and he's showed up on the show you know and he's showed up on the show you know and he's like one of the original guys like one of the original guys like one of the original guys so you know uh so you know uh so you know uh everybody uh you ping the dude basically everybody uh you ping the dude basically everybody uh you ping the dude basically spam his ass there you go and tell him

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