IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 324 - "Prediction Markets" (The Idiocracy Crazy Train)

[music] [music] >> Professor. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Is this where we say we're not worthy, >> Is this where we say we're not worthy, >> Is this where we say we're not worthy, we're not worthy? we're not worthy? we're not worthy? >> You're totally not worthy. >> You're totally not worthy. >> You're totally not worthy. You know, You know, You know, Devon, I don't know why he wastes his Devon, I don't know why he wastes his Devon, I don't know why he wastes his time with us. That guy should be on the time with us. That guy should be on the time with us. That guy should be on the road. road. road. >> I don't know who I >> I don't know who I >> I don't know who I I don't know why anyone wastes their I don't know why anyone wastes their I don't know why anyone wastes their time with us. time with us. time with us. >> Well, who's that? >> Well, who's that? >> Well, who's that? >> Heavy metal forever.

>> Heavy metal forever. >> Heavy metal forever. >> Yeah, Leonard, you need to be on the >> Yeah, Leonard, you need to be on the >> Yeah, Leonard, you need to be on the road. You should be touring. I don't road. You should be touring. I don't road. You should be touring. I don't know. know. know. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> One of these >> One of these >> One of these >> We should do coffee talk excellent. >> We should do coffee talk excellent. >> We should do coffee talk excellent. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, that's how we That's Well, you know, that's how we That's Well, you know, that's how we That's That's how we started. That's how we started. That's how we started. >> gosh. You know, Devon, you just nailed >> gosh. You know, Devon, you just nailed >> gosh. You know, Devon, you just nailed it. That could be a it. That could be a it. That could be a like an intro or a new like like an intro or a new like like an intro or a new like advertisement or something for Coffee advertisement or something for Coffee advertisement or something for Coffee Talk is doing it from Wayne's World. Talk is doing it from Wayne's World. Talk is doing it from Wayne's World. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Brilliant. Coffee Talk. Excellent. >> Brilliant. Coffee Talk. Excellent. >> Brilliant. Coffee Talk. Excellent. >> So so you volunteered to be Garth. >> So so you volunteered to be Garth. >> So so you volunteered to be Garth. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's you. That's you. That's you. Yeah, but you know, just did that Yeah, but you know, just did that Yeah, but you know, just did that because we are literally on a crazy because we are literally on a crazy because we are literally on a crazy train, right? train, right? train, right? I mean, talk about a crazy week. Just I mean, talk about a crazy week. Just I mean, talk about a crazy week. Just this week was so insane. this week was so insane. this week was so insane. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I I think every week is starting to get >> I I think every week is starting to get >> I I think every week is starting to get more insane and more insane and more insane and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> as we go by. We're in some simulation >> as we go by. We're in some simulation >> as we go by. We're in some simulation and someone cranked up and someone cranked up and someone cranked up >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> the level nine of insanity since the >> the level nine of insanity since the >> the level nine of insanity since the pandemic.

pandemic. pandemic. >> I I'm telling you, man. You know what's >> I I'm telling you, man. You know what's >> I I'm telling you, man. You know what's really crazy is now you're hearing all really crazy is now you're hearing all really crazy is now you're hearing all these people talk about prediction these people talk about prediction these people talk about prediction markets. markets. markets. And that is really troublesome. I mean, And that is really troublesome. I mean, And that is really troublesome. I mean, >> Like Kalshi and Polymarket and all that? >> Like Kalshi and Polymarket and all that? >> Like Kalshi and Polymarket and all that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then people talking about how those >> And then people talking about how those >> And then people talking about how those things are now some sort of things are now some sort of things are now some sort of barometer for where things are going to barometer for where things are going to barometer for where things are going to go. And so everything is turning into go. And so everything is turning into go. And so everything is turning into like like like like gambling. like gambling. like gambling. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> You know. >> You know. >> But now we have AI. You know, China said >> But now we have AI. You know, China said >> But now we have AI. You know, China said they have AI that can predict the they have AI that can predict the they have AI that can predict the market. Now I can't remember which market. Now I can't remember which market. Now I can't remember which police agency said that we can start police agency said that we can start police agency said that we can start predicting. You know, we're now in predicting. You know, we're now in predicting. You know, we're now in Minority Report territory. Minority Report territory. Minority Report territory. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> where we can get patterns and predict >> where we can get patterns and predict >> where we can get patterns and predict when crime is going to happen. when crime is going to happen. when crime is going to happen. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's really really creepy. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's really really creepy. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's really really creepy. >> Oh my gosh, that's wild. Yeah, you're >> Oh my gosh, that's wild. Yeah, you're >> Oh my gosh, that's wild. Yeah, you're right, you know. Yeah, what a week. right, you know. Yeah, what a week. right, you know. Yeah, what a week. There's so much to talk about. There's so much to talk about. There's so much to talk about. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, but uh before we we we do what we Yeah, but uh before we we we do what we Yeah, but uh before we we we do what we have to do our thing. So hey, welcome have to do our thing. So hey, welcome have to do our thing. So hey, welcome everyone.

everyone. everyone. All aboard on the crazy train of IoT All aboard on the crazy train of IoT All aboard on the crazy train of IoT Coffee Talk. Coffee Talk. Coffee Talk. >> [laughter] >> Um we're here to have fun. Take us >> Um we're here to have fun. Take us seriously seriously seriously at your own risk. You take all at your own risk. You take all at your own risk. You take all responsibility. So this is like the responsibility. So this is like the responsibility. So this is like the disclaimer section, you know, the part disclaimer section, you know, the part disclaimer section, you know, the part that you don't read. that you don't read. that you don't read. >> This is for entertainment purposes only. >> This is for entertainment purposes only. >> This is for entertainment purposes only. >> uh I read it and then you >> uh I read it and then you >> uh I read it and then you uh yeah, you um approve anyway. uh yeah, you um approve anyway. uh yeah, you um approve anyway. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> So yeah, we've simplified the fine >> So yeah, we've simplified the fine >> So yeah, we've simplified the fine print. We're having fun. Take us print. We're having fun. Take us print. We're having fun. Take us seriously at your own risk. Take out seriously at your own risk. Take out seriously at your own risk. Take out insurance if you do. And insurance if you do. And insurance if you do. And yeah, just enjoy yourself. And remember yeah, just enjoy yourself. And remember yeah, just enjoy yourself. And remember communities are going to matter. If If communities are going to matter. If If communities are going to matter. If If you don't believe it now, you will. you don't believe it now, you will. you don't believe it now, you will. >> they're all on fire right now, I guess. >> they're all on fire right now, I guess. >> they're all on fire right now, I guess. >> Yes. And >> Yes. And >> Yes. And um yeah, um yeah, um yeah, what do you What do they call it? Um what do you What do they call it? Um what do you What do they call it? Um uh prayers. uh prayers. uh prayers. Uh thoughts and prayers to our friends Uh thoughts and prayers to our friends Uh thoughts and prayers to our friends in Spain and our friends who are now in Spain and our friends who are now in Spain and our friends who are now running away from massive fires due to running away from massive fires due to running away from massive fires due to these weird things called heat domes.

these weird things called heat domes. these weird things called heat domes. I don't think we ever Did we ever Did we I don't think we ever Did we ever Did we I don't think we ever Did we ever Did we grow up as kids grow up as kids grow up as kids with this idea with this idea with this idea of the definition of a heat dome? of the definition of a heat dome? of the definition of a heat dome? >> We were just outside all day >> We were just outside all day >> We were just outside all day and you know, I remember and we were and you know, I remember and we were and you know, I remember and we were drinking from the hose. drinking from the hose. drinking from the hose. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Did you see Speaking of that, did you >> Did you see Speaking of that, did you >> Did you see Speaking of that, did you see that commercial that stunt that Who see that commercial that stunt that Who see that commercial that stunt that Who Who did it? Jimmy Kimmel where they Who did it? Jimmy Kimmel where they Who did it? Jimmy Kimmel where they filled Erewhon cups with water hose and filled Erewhon cups with water hose and filled Erewhon cups with water hose and they interviewed people in Los Angeles. they interviewed people in Los Angeles. they interviewed people in Los Angeles. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So it's all perception and because it So it's all perception and because it So it's all perception and because it had an Erewhon glass, they were yeah, had an Erewhon glass, they were yeah, had an Erewhon glass, they were yeah, this is a really nutty taste. Oh, I can this is a really nutty taste. Oh, I can this is a really nutty taste. Oh, I can taste taste taste >> the quality in this. And when they told >> the quality in this. And when they told >> the quality in this. And when they told them, no, this is just water from a them, no, this is just water from a them, no, this is just water from a hose, no no one believed it. But go go hose, no no one believed it. But go go hose, no no one believed it. But go go look at that. look at that. look at that. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> back to, you know, how you package >> back to, you know, how you package >> back to, you know, how you package things and you put an AI label on things and you put an AI label on things and you put an AI label on everything, this is the greatest thing everything, this is the greatest thing everything, this is the greatest thing since sliced bread. since sliced bread. since sliced bread. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Our mind >> Our mind >> Our mind >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> mind sees what it looks for. >> mind sees what it looks for. >> mind sees what it looks for. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> that we're easily manipulated? >> that we're easily manipulated? >> that we're easily manipulated? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> We we >> We we >> We we >> YOU MAYBE.

>> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> THIS IS THE BEST WATER I'VE EVER HAD. >> THIS IS THE BEST WATER I'VE EVER HAD. >> THIS IS THE BEST WATER I'VE EVER HAD. AND IT WAS ONLY $50 for this bottle of AND IT WAS ONLY $50 for this bottle of AND IT WAS ONLY $50 for this bottle of water from Erewhon. water from Erewhon. water from Erewhon. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Well, that's that's the problem with >> Well, that's that's the problem with >> Well, that's that's the problem with wine, right? People who are wine, right? People who are wine, right? People who are wine drinkers, especially if you're wine drinkers, especially if you're wine drinkers, especially if you're amateur wine wine amateur wine wine amateur wine wine drinker who doesn't you know, drinker who doesn't you know, drinker who doesn't you know, you might not have the palate or quite you might not have the palate or quite you might not have the palate or quite yet and you spend a lot of money on yet and you spend a lot of money on yet and you spend a lot of money on expensive bottle and I you know, a lot expensive bottle and I you know, a lot expensive bottle and I you know, a lot of folks they pay a lot of money for a of folks they pay a lot of money for a of folks they pay a lot of money for a bad bottle and they can't identify a bad bad bottle and they can't identify a bad bad bottle and they can't identify a bad bottle, right? And and so yeah, that bottle, right? And and so yeah, that bottle, right? And and so yeah, that that's that's that's >> a good bottle for you. >> a good bottle for you. >> a good bottle for you. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You will not be able to find this >> You will not be able to find this >> You will not be able to find this anywhere. anywhere. anywhere. >> Uh-huh. >> Uh-huh. >> Uh-huh. >> The other night, we were at a >> The other night, we were at a >> The other night, we were at a restaurant, Shafer that's a area inside restaurant, Shafer that's a area inside restaurant, Shafer that's a area inside the Willamette Valley south of Portland, the Willamette Valley south of Portland, the Willamette Valley south of Portland, Oregon where all the Pinot Noirs are. Oregon where all the Pinot Noirs are. Oregon where all the Pinot Noirs are. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Shafer is actually one of the towns. All >> Shafer is actually one of the towns. All >> Shafer is actually one of the towns. All these places used to be just farms. these places used to be just farms. these places used to be just farms. And now they're all doing Pinot Noirs. And now they're all doing Pinot Noirs. And now they're all doing Pinot Noirs. What's significant about this Pinot What's significant about this Pinot What's significant about this Pinot is the date.

is the date. is the date. 1993. 1993. 1993. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> We were able we bought this bottle at a >> We were able we bought this bottle at a >> We were able we bought this bottle at a restaurant in '93. I think it was like restaurant in '93. I think it was like restaurant in '93. I think it was like it was like 105 bucks. it was like 105 bucks. it was like 105 bucks. It was to die for. It was so good. It was to die for. It was so good. It was to die for. It was so good. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> And I was just like, I wonder if this >> And I was just like, I wonder if this >> And I was just like, I wonder if this thing exists anywhere and we reached out thing exists anywhere and we reached out thing exists anywhere and we reached out to the winery. We didn't even know if to the winery. We didn't even know if to the winery. We didn't even know if they're still in business and they're they're still in business and they're they're still in business and they're like, yeah, we haven't had these in like, yeah, we haven't had these in like, yeah, we haven't had these in forever. And so my buddy and I were forever. And so my buddy and I were forever. And so my buddy and I were like, man, we need to just go back up like, man, we need to just go back up like, man, we need to just go back up the truck to that restaurant and just the truck to that restaurant and just the truck to that restaurant and just buy all the bottles. buy all the bottles. buy all the bottles. It was I definitely it was definitely I It was I definitely it was definitely I It was I definitely it was definitely I gave it 94 points. It was really good. gave it 94 points. It was really good. gave it 94 points. It was really good. And it could even you know, when you And it could even you know, when you And it could even you know, when you have a Pinot Noir that has a little more have a Pinot Noir that has a little more have a Pinot Noir that has a little more body to it that you don't usually see, body to it that you don't usually see, body to it that you don't usually see, it can stand up to a steak, which is not it can stand up to a steak, which is not it can stand up to a steak, which is not normal for a Pinot. normal for a Pinot. normal for a Pinot. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, >> Anyway, >> Anyway, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I love to the obscure finding and having >> I love to the obscure finding and having >> I love to the obscure finding and having something from '93. something from '93. something from '93. >> So, can you repeat that? That's a 96 on >> So, can you repeat that? That's a 96 on >> So, can you repeat that? That's a 96 on the Tiffany rating system? the Tiffany rating system? the Tiffany rating system? >> it I gave it 94. >> it I gave it 94. >> it I gave it 94. >> 94. >> 94. >> 94. >> points on the Tiffany rating, which is >> points on the Tiffany rating, which is >> points on the Tiffany rating, which is the highest rating. It's higher than the highest rating. It's higher than the highest rating. It's higher than Robert Parker or any of the other ones.

Robert Parker or any of the other ones. Robert Parker or any of the other ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> As you know. >> As you know. >> As you know. >> Well, I had a 99 uh 99 rated cab >> Well, I had a 99 uh 99 rated cab >> Well, I had a 99 uh 99 rated cab um last week. um last week. um last week. And uh it's funny. It tasted like uh And uh it's funny. It tasted like uh And uh it's funny. It tasted like uh more like a Bordeaux, you know, much more like a Bordeaux, you know, much more like a Bordeaux, you know, much lighter. lighter. lighter. So, that was interesting. So, that was interesting. So, that was interesting. >> Well, where does >> Well, where does >> Well, where does >> Yeah, I guess >> Yeah, I guess >> Yeah, I guess >> Where does it come from, Mr. Lee? >> Where does it come from, Mr. Lee? >> Where does it come from, Mr. Lee? >> I mean, it comes from France. >> I mean, it comes from France. >> I mean, it comes from France. >> From Bordeaux. >> From Bordeaux. >> From Bordeaux. >> Yeah, [laughter] Bordeaux. >> Yeah, [laughter] Bordeaux. >> Yeah, [laughter] Bordeaux. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. But um yeah, man. Um yeah, elevate >> Yeah. But um yeah, man. Um yeah, elevate >> Yeah. But um yeah, man. Um yeah, elevate our uh communities. Remember, that's our our uh communities. Remember, that's our our uh communities. Remember, that's our charity. We're going to kick that off charity. We're going to kick that off charity. We're going to kick that off now that we're getting through some, you now that we're getting through some, you now that we're getting through some, you know, um re know, um re know, um re uh uh uh I don't know. Just like stuff. I don't know. Just like stuff. I don't know. Just like stuff. >> Illegal stuff that we've been doing the >> Illegal stuff that we've been doing the >> Illegal stuff that we've been doing the last couple of years has been really last couple of years has been really last couple of years has been really slow. slow. slow. >> Yeah, tax legal stuff. But uh >> Yeah, tax legal stuff. But uh >> Yeah, tax legal stuff. But uh >> It's all good. >> It's all good. >> It's all good. >> And you know, hopefully you can put a >> And you know, hopefully you can put a >> And you know, hopefully you can put a nice wrapper around this wonderful work nice wrapper around this wonderful work nice wrapper around this wonderful work that that that uh Rob has done with his 101 Ways of uh Rob has done with his 101 Ways of uh Rob has done with his 101 Ways of Saving the Planet book that he he's Saving the Planet book that he he's Saving the Planet book that he he's published, which ironically is massive.

published, which ironically is massive. published, which ironically is massive. And And And uh is hardback. uh is hardback. uh is hardback. And a lot of paper. And a lot of paper. And a lot of paper. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And you know, I've been getting I've >> And you know, I've been getting I've >> And you know, I've been getting I've been getting exciting messages from been getting exciting messages from been getting exciting messages from people. people. people. >> You We need a digital version, dude. >> You We need a digital version, dude. >> You We need a digital version, dude. Save the planet. Save the planet. Save the planet. >> What do you think of our I will. I will. >> What do you think of our I will. I will. >> What do you think of our I will. I will. But you don't do it right away. Um But you don't do it right away. Um But you don't do it right away. Um but yeah, our but yeah, our but yeah, our IoT friends in Europe, do you you know, IoT friends in Europe, do you you know, IoT friends in Europe, do you you know, Kai Hackbarth? You know, he was Kai Hackbarth? You know, he was Kai Hackbarth? You know, he was >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. and he said his is arriving on Sunday and he said his is arriving on Sunday and he said his is arriving on Sunday he's excited and then of course he also he's excited and then of course he also he's excited and then of course he also sent me sent me sent me pictures of new fires cuz he lives in pictures of new fires cuz he lives in pictures of new fires cuz he lives in Greece and so they're getting some fires Greece and so they're getting some fires Greece and so they're getting some fires you know it was where I was I was you know it was where I was I was you know it was where I was I was chatting with him and he was I was just chatting with him and he was I was just chatting with him and he was I was just like you know it's weird how every like you know it's weird how every like you know it's weird how every summer we seem to have this fire season summer we seem to have this fire season summer we seem to have this fire season now um now um now um and he was like he goes yeah we've had and he was like he goes yeah we've had and he was like he goes yeah we've had that in Greece for a long time but it's that in Greece for a long time but it's that in Greece for a long time but it's definitely new for the rest of Europe definitely new for the rest of Europe definitely new for the rest of Europe it's being that hot and having those it's being that hot and having those it's being that hot and having those fires is a new thing cuz you're right fires is a new thing cuz you're right fires is a new thing cuz you're right I've been watching on TV in Spain and I've been watching on TV in Spain and I've been watching on TV in Spain and France and it's France and it's France and it's it's crazy um and we sit there talking it's crazy um and we sit there talking it's crazy um and we sit there talking about Bordeaux wine about Bordeaux wine about Bordeaux wine it's like knocking off it's like knocking off it's like knocking off the Bordeaux the Bordeaux the Bordeaux >> on fire so I mean it's like it's just so >> on fire so I mean it's like it's just so >> on fire so I mean it's like it's just so weird that you know the scientists have weird that you know the scientists have weird that you know the scientists have been talking about been talking about been talking about this happening this happening this happening for so long for so long for so long and we're oddly in a position where and we're oddly in a position where and we're oddly in a position where we're we really don't want to do we're we really don't want to do we're we really don't want to do anything about it anything about it anything about it which is so which is so which is so strange

strange strange >> right I mean we're still still in denial >> right I mean we're still still in denial >> right I mean we're still still in denial it just it just it just it's funky how the weather has changed it's funky how the weather has changed it's funky how the weather has changed lately lately lately and not only fires so Chicago had one of and not only fires so Chicago had one of and not only fires so Chicago had one of the worst air quality indexes ever in the worst air quality indexes ever in the worst air quality indexes ever in the world the world the world few weeks ago but few weeks ago but few weeks ago but let's talk about tornadoes so you know let's talk about tornadoes so you know let's talk about tornadoes so you know close you know in the Chicago Burbs close you know in the Chicago Burbs close you know in the Chicago Burbs close to Chicago anytime a tornado siren close to Chicago anytime a tornado siren close to Chicago anytime a tornado siren came on came on came on we'd ignore it because that only happens we'd ignore it because that only happens we'd ignore it because that only happens way way west where there's only way way west where there's only way way west where there's only farmlands never close farmlands never close farmlands never close you know about a month ago a tornado you know about a month ago a tornado you know about a month ago a tornado touched down 4 miles from my house and touched down 4 miles from my house and touched down 4 miles from my house and then last week or 2 days or this week I then last week or 2 days or this week I then last week or 2 days or this week I think think think four to six tornadoes touched down in four to six tornadoes touched down in four to six tornadoes touched down in the suburbs and one the suburbs and one the suburbs and one went in a circle and and came back and went in a circle and and came back and went in a circle and and came back and hit the same house twice. hit the same house twice. hit the same house twice. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> I think they said 100 and they're EF0 0 >> I think they said 100 and they're EF0 0 >> I think they said 100 and they're EF0 0 F1s, but it's still enough to tear a F1s, but it's still enough to tear a F1s, but it's still enough to tear a roof off. roof off. roof off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But this has >> But this has >> But this has from all my recollection in this area, from all my recollection in this area, from all my recollection in this area, >> This is new.

>> This is new. >> This is new. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> really happened. >> really happened. >> really happened. >> I saw that on the news. I was watching >> I saw that on the news. I was watching >> I saw that on the news. I was watching the whatever nightly news and and I the whatever nightly news and and I the whatever nightly news and and I couldn't believe the wind speed I was couldn't believe the wind speed I was couldn't believe the wind speed I was seeing in Chicago area. Um and then they seeing in Chicago area. Um and then they seeing in Chicago area. Um and then they showed the tornado up in Wisconsin. Like showed the tornado up in Wisconsin. Like showed the tornado up in Wisconsin. Like just south of Green Bay, Wisconsin, just south of Green Bay, Wisconsin, just south of Green Bay, Wisconsin, those people never imagined in a million those people never imagined in a million those people never imagined in a million years they'd see a tornado. And they're years they'd see a tornado. And they're years they'd see a tornado. And they're getting like a EF3 tornado just south of getting like a EF3 tornado just south of getting like a EF3 tornado just south of Green Bay, you know, it's like, what? Green Bay, you know, it's like, what? Green Bay, you know, it's like, what? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's weird. >> It's weird. >> It's weird. Weather's happening in strange places it Weather's happening in strange places it Weather's happening in strange places it never happened before, extreme weather. never happened before, extreme weather. never happened before, extreme weather. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, it's scary. >> Yeah, and >> Yeah, and >> Yeah, and >> all these sensors and all these radars >> all these sensors and all these radars >> all these sensors and all these radars to and it's, you know, we still get to and it's, you know, we still get to and it's, you know, we still get surprised. The tornado warnings come up, surprised. The tornado warnings come up, surprised. The tornado warnings come up, but we still haven't gotten enough, you but we still haven't gotten enough, you but we still haven't gotten enough, you know, we talk about prediction market know, we talk about prediction market know, we talk about prediction market and predictions. and predictions. and predictions. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, how how can we use AI to >> You know, how how can we use AI to >> You know, how how can we use AI to identify what's causing this? You know, identify what's causing this? You know, identify what's causing this? You know, I've heard a long time ago was it it was I've heard a long time ago was it it was I've heard a long time ago was it it was hairspray that was causing hairspray that was causing hairspray that was causing um you know, weather changes over the um you know, weather changes over the um you know, weather changes over the weekend cuz through the through the week weekend cuz through the through the week weekend cuz through the through the week or you know, I guess back when everyone or you know, I guess back when everyone or you know, I guess back when everyone used a lot of it, you know, all this the used a lot of it, you know, all this the used a lot of it, you know, all this the carbon fluoride would go go up in the carbon fluoride would go go up in the carbon fluoride would go go up in the atmosphere and then you would seed atmosphere and then you would seed atmosphere and then you would seed everything by weekend so you'd have everything by weekend so you'd have everything by weekend so you'd have storms on the weekends. So, what's the storms on the weekends. So, what's the storms on the weekends. So, what's the correlation here? And how do we take all correlation here? And how do we take all correlation here? And how do we take all the data that we have because it's all the data that we have because it's all the data that we have because it's all in silos and we're regulating the use of in silos and we're regulating the use of in silos and we're regulating the use of data to where maybe if we were able to data to where maybe if we were able to data to where maybe if we were able to connect all these data, we could solve connect all these data, we could solve connect all these data, we could solve all sorts of diseases, we could predict all sorts of diseases, we could predict all sorts of diseases, we could predict the weather and everything. So, again, the weather and everything. So, again, the weather and everything. So, again, really this back to IoT.

really this back to IoT. really this back to IoT. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, we have all this data, but yet >> You know, we have all this data, but yet >> You know, we have all this data, but yet we're still we're still we're still helpless that we get surprised by all helpless that we get surprised by all helpless that we get surprised by all these events. these events. these events. >> Well, you >> Well, you >> Well, you you know why they made such a big deal you know why they made such a big deal you know why they made such a big deal out of hairspray though, right, Devin? out of hairspray though, right, Devin? out of hairspray though, right, Devin? It's because it was an anti-heavy metal, It's because it was an anti-heavy metal, It's because it was an anti-heavy metal, you know, rock music thing. you know, rock music thing. you know, rock music thing. Because all these heavy metal guys and Because all these heavy metal guys and Because all these heavy metal guys and gals were running around with gigantic gals were running around with gigantic gals were running around with gigantic hair. hair. hair. Right? And they were using What was that Right? And they were using What was that Right? And they were using What was that What was that hairspray that everyone What was that hairspray that everyone What was that hairspray that everyone >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net. >> It's Aqua Net. >> It's Aqua Net. >> It's Aqua Net. >> Aqua Net changed the weather. >> Aqua Net changed the weather. >> Aqua Net changed the weather. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Pete's like, "What what what is the >> I mean, >> I mean, speaking about speaking you know, speaking about speaking you know, speaking about speaking you know, speaking about you know, like uh Ozzy speaking about you know, like uh Ozzy speaking about you know, like uh Ozzy Osbourne heavy metal concerts, if you Osbourne heavy metal concerts, if you Osbourne heavy metal concerts, if you ever went, I mean, you saw some of the ever went, I mean, you saw some of the ever went, I mean, you saw some of the biggest hair biggest hair biggest hair >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> ever, right? I mean, forget about Dr. J >> ever, right? I mean, forget about Dr. J >> ever, right? I mean, forget about Dr. J and his gigantic afro. and his gigantic afro. and his gigantic afro. You know, some of those concert You know, some of those concert You know, some of those concert attendees I mean, they were using a lot attendees I mean, they were using a lot attendees I mean, they were using a lot of Aqua Net. So, of Aqua Net. So, of Aqua Net. So, >> A lot of Aqua Net.

>> A lot of Aqua Net. >> A lot of Aqua Net. >> happening there. >> happening there. >> happening there. >> Just like just like Pete was using this >> Just like just like Pete was using this >> Just like just like Pete was using this morning to get ready to come on the morning to get ready to come on the morning to get ready to come on the show. show. show. >> A lot of Aqua Net. >> A lot of Aqua Net. >> A lot of Aqua Net. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Now, Pete, we're you know, we're talking >> Now, Pete, we're you know, we're talking >> Now, Pete, we're you know, we're talking about climate changes, fires, about climate changes, fires, about climate changes, fires, [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] um we have sensors, we have, you know, um we have sensors, we have, you know, um we have sensors, we have, you know, predictive models, we have AI, but yet predictive models, we have AI, but yet predictive models, we have AI, but yet we get caught you know, we still can't we get caught you know, we still can't we get caught you know, we still can't predict what you know, when a fire is predict what you know, when a fire is predict what you know, when a fire is going to happen. We can't predict when a going to happen. We can't predict when a going to happen. We can't predict when a tornado is going to touch down. tornado is going to touch down. tornado is going to touch down. Will we ever get there? Will we ever get there? Will we ever get there? Um and then we you know, we're kind of Um and then we you know, we're kind of Um and then we you know, we're kind of talking somehow it got to hairspray. talking somehow it got to hairspray. talking somehow it got to hairspray. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> That's your fault. >> But but you but you took on >> But but you but you took on >> The guy who brought it up is wondering >> The guy who brought it up is wondering >> The guy who brought it up is wondering how it came up. Oh, jeez. how it came up. Oh, jeez. how it came up. Oh, jeez. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> You're funny. >> You're funny. >> You're funny. >> You're so right, though. You're You're >> You're so right, though. You're You're >> You're so right, though. You're You're right. And yeah, so Pete and we were right. And yeah, so Pete and we were right. And yeah, so Pete and we were just like the fact that Devin's had just like the fact that Devin's had just like the fact that Devin's had tornadoes like nearby his house, like a tornadoes like nearby his house, like a tornadoes like nearby his house, like a bunch of them in the Chicago land area. bunch of them in the Chicago land area. bunch of them in the Chicago land area. We never saw a tornado happen in Chicago We never saw a tornado happen in Chicago We never saw a tornado happen in Chicago [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] or Green Bay, Wisconsin.

or Green Bay, Wisconsin. or Green Bay, Wisconsin. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And if you think about it, the And if you think about it, the And if you think about it, the government really governments at all government really governments at all government really governments at all levels have a levels have a levels have a and you have and you have and you have I mean they do have and they should have I mean they do have and they should have I mean they do have and they should have a big role to play cuz resources are a big role to play cuz resources are a big role to play cuz resources are scarce, right? Some like in California, scarce, right? Some like in California, scarce, right? Some like in California, some of these fires are so massive and some of these fires are so massive and some of these fires are so massive and resourced constrained. We don't have and resourced constrained. We don't have and resourced constrained. We don't have and then there's also the safety factor cuz then there's also the safety factor cuz then there's also the safety factor cuz we have these strange conditions, we have these strange conditions, we have these strange conditions, especially high winds, that make these especially high winds, that make these especially high winds, that make these fires just spread like well fires just spread like well fires just spread like well >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> wildfire. >> wildfire. >> wildfire. >> Like well >> Like well >> Like well >> They pose a danger to the firefighters. >> They pose a danger to the firefighters. >> They pose a danger to the firefighters. I mean, I think we're I mean, I think we're I mean, I think we're in Colorado or somewhere. There's four in Colorado or somewhere. There's four in Colorado or somewhere. There's four firefighters who died. firefighters who died. firefighters who died. >> Yeah. No, definitely. >> Yeah. No, definitely. >> Yeah. No, definitely. >> Without providing that kind of >> Without providing that kind of >> Without providing that kind of situational awareness to situational awareness to situational awareness to you know, these emergency workers you know, these emergency workers you know, these emergency workers it puts their lives at risk and they're it puts their lives at risk and they're it puts their lives at risk and they're important resources and obviously important resources and obviously important resources and obviously they're people. We don't we don't want they're people. We don't we don't want they're people. We don't we don't want to have we don't want to lose these to have we don't want to lose these to have we don't want to lose these types of we don't want to lose anybody, types of we don't want to lose anybody, types of we don't want to lose anybody, but but but yeah, I mean, they're out there on the yeah, I mean, they're out there on the yeah, I mean, they're out there on the front lines fighting this stuff.

front lines fighting this stuff. front lines fighting this stuff. >> Yeah. I suspect a lot of these >> Yeah. I suspect a lot of these >> Yeah. I suspect a lot of these prediction models though and I'm sure prediction models though and I'm sure prediction models though and I'm sure they're working on it they're working on it they're working on it is they're just generating probably a is they're just generating probably a is they're just generating probably a lot of false positives, you know. Like lot of false positives, you know. Like lot of false positives, you know. Like well, this could happen and this could well, this could happen and this could well, this could happen and this could happen and this could happen. It's like happen and this could happen. It's like happen and this could happen. It's like when do you when do you when do you create predictions that are actionable, create predictions that are actionable, create predictions that are actionable, you know, and where you actually want you know, and where you actually want you know, and where you actually want people to get in their car and leave or people to get in their car and leave or people to get in their car and leave or whatever. And that that's that's a tough whatever. And that that's that's a tough whatever. And that that's that's a tough one. I think that's probably what people one. I think that's probably what people one. I think that's probably what people are struggling with are struggling with are struggling with developing these models is where where developing these models is where where developing these models is where where do you really have confidence that you do you really have confidence that you do you really have confidence that you actually want people to take action cuz actually want people to take action cuz actually want people to take action cuz that's a big deal, right? Evacuation and that's a big deal, right? Evacuation and that's a big deal, right? Evacuation and all these other things. Um all these other things. Um all these other things. Um So, yeah. I mean, it's for all the um So, yeah. I mean, it's for all the um So, yeah. I mean, it's for all the um all the amazing, dangerous open AI and all the amazing, dangerous open AI and all the amazing, dangerous open AI and Anthropic models that are escaping Anthropic models that are escaping Anthropic models that are escaping sandboxes and creating havoc sandboxes and creating havoc sandboxes and creating havoc which is like the the most [ __ ] which is like the the most [ __ ] which is like the the most [ __ ] marketing I've ever heard of in the marketing I've ever heard of in the marketing I've ever heard of in the world. Like both open AI and Anthropic world. Like both open AI and Anthropic world. Like both open AI and Anthropic are now marketing their models as so are now marketing their models as so are now marketing their models as so dangerous that they can escape the dangerous that they can escape the dangerous that they can escape the sandbox and infiltrate other systems. sandbox and infiltrate other systems. sandbox and infiltrate other systems. And so and by the way you should buy it. And so and by the way you should buy it. And so and by the way you should buy it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But even though we have all that, we >> But even though we have all that, we >> But even though we have all that, we can't predict tornadoes.

can't predict tornadoes. can't predict tornadoes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The real problems in the world not these >> The real problems in the world not these >> The real problems in the world not these other problems. Anyway, that just kind other problems. Anyway, that just kind other problems. Anyway, that just kind of bothered me this morning. I heard on of bothered me this morning. I heard on of bothered me this morning. I heard on NPR is like now Anthropic is saying that NPR is like now Anthropic is saying that NPR is like now Anthropic is saying that their models have escaped the sandbox their models have escaped the sandbox their models have escaped the sandbox too. That's like too. That's like too. That's like like oh like oh like oh >> Now we have the kill switch act in >> Now we have the kill switch act in >> Now we have the kill switch act in Congress, the bill going through. Congress, the bill going through. Congress, the bill going through. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what the fine is if you >> I don't know what the fine is if you >> I don't know what the fine is if you know you're not able to shut this down know you're not able to shut this down know you're not able to shut this down within what within what within what what's the parameters. I think you have what's the parameters. I think you have what's the parameters. I think you have to be able to shut it down within 10 to be able to shut it down within 10 to be able to shut it down within 10 minutes or something or get fined it's minutes or something or get fined it's minutes or something or get fined it's insane amount of money. insane amount of money. insane amount of money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Crazy stuff. >> Crazy stuff. >> Crazy stuff. >> $1 a day $1 a day. >> $1 a day $1 a day. >> $1 a day $1 a day. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Kevin you were just talking about we >> Kevin you were just talking about we >> Kevin you were just talking about we all these data silos which has also all these data silos which has also all these data silos which has also always been a problem. Sometimes you always been a problem. Sometimes you always been a problem. Sometimes you don't want to but uh but certainly you don't want to but uh but certainly you don't want to but uh but certainly you know, government data, weather data, all know, government data, weather data, all know, government data, weather data, all kinds of stuff everywhere all together. kinds of stuff everywhere all together. kinds of stuff everywhere all together. He's right. There's a lot of He's right. There's a lot of He's right. There's a lot of silos that we could blend together silos that we could blend together silos that we could blend together maybe. maybe. maybe. >> But also Pete brings up a thing you >> But also Pete brings up a thing you >> But also Pete brings up a thing you know, you have all these models know, you have all these models know, you have all these models but it's garbage in garbage out. So but it's garbage in garbage out. So but it's garbage in garbage out. So unless you have the sensors and the and unless you have the sensors and the and unless you have the sensors and the and the things feeding the real-time data the things feeding the real-time data the things feeding the real-time data into these models. So for example, I'm into these models. So for example, I'm into these models. So for example, I'm not sure if you saw that article of not sure if you saw that article of not sure if you saw that article of where these cheap drones sitting in the where these cheap drones sitting in the where these cheap drones sitting in the Pacific are monitoring with cameras and Pacific are monitoring with cameras and Pacific are monitoring with cameras and you know, they they've seen you know, you know, they they've seen you know, you know, they they've seen you know, these Chinese vessels transversing but these Chinese vessels transversing but these Chinese vessels transversing but you know, if you have low-cost sensors you know, if you have low-cost sensors you know, if you have low-cost sensors and drones out there now you can put a and drones out there now you can put a and drones out there now you can put a lot more feeding the data. Um talking lot more feeding the data. Um talking lot more feeding the data. Um talking about fires and things you know, a good about fires and things you know, a good about fires and things you know, a good friend of mine friend of mine friend of mine um um um has a company called Clarity and it's has a company called Clarity and it's has a company called Clarity and it's run by a bunch of Berkeley students.

run by a bunch of Berkeley students. run by a bunch of Berkeley students. They have about 80 They have about 80 They have about 80 cities censored up for um air quality cities censored up for um air quality cities censored up for um air quality detection um smoke and they can tell you detection um smoke and they can tell you detection um smoke and they can tell you you know, fireworks how quickly you know, fireworks how quickly you know, fireworks how quickly the thing has been changing and they're the thing has been changing and they're the thing has been changing and they're also helping to you know, detect fires. also helping to you know, detect fires. also helping to you know, detect fires. But you know, that's just one company. But you know, that's just one company. But you know, that's just one company. How do you create networks of these How do you create networks of these How do you create networks of these companies companies companies and the whole sensor fusion of and the whole sensor fusion of and the whole sensor fusion of everything from the Doppler radars to everything from the Doppler radars to everything from the Doppler radars to the, you know, the know wind patterns to the, you know, the know wind patterns to the, you know, the know wind patterns to companies like that providing real-time companies like that providing real-time companies like that providing real-time environmental sensing to everything else environmental sensing to everything else environmental sensing to everything else and aggregate them, but you know, and aggregate them, but you know, and aggregate them, but you know, there's data privacy. How do you get, there's data privacy. How do you get, there's data privacy. How do you get, you know, data monetization? you know, data monetization? you know, data monetization? Um Um Um you know, some friends of mine were you know, some friends of mine were you know, some friends of mine were trying to start a data exchange, you trying to start a data exchange, you trying to start a data exchange, you know, with a crypto coin all know, with a crypto coin all know, with a crypto coin all with a blockchain to de- democratize with a blockchain to de- democratize with a blockchain to de- democratize your data, you know, many years ago. your data, you know, many years ago. your data, you know, many years ago. And you would watermark your data. So, And you would watermark your data. So, And you would watermark your data. So, you know, for example, you know, for example, you know, for example, you know, how many steps I take and all you know, how many steps I take and all you know, how many steps I take and all that, that would be mine and I could that, that would be mine and I could that, that would be mine and I could sell it and get for example a sell it and get for example a sell it and get for example a you know, a discount for my carrier. And you know, a discount for my carrier. And you know, a discount for my carrier. And if they sold it to someone that I didn't if they sold it to someone that I didn't if they sold it to someone that I didn't authorize it to, the watermark would authorize it to, the watermark would authorize it to, the watermark would say, "Okay, on the blockchain, you you say, "Okay, on the blockchain, you you say, "Okay, on the blockchain, you you did something." So, that was my data.

did something." So, that was my data. did something." So, that was my data. And this is what would be the start of And this is what would be the start of And this is what would be the start of how we would democratize data and free how we would democratize data and free how we would democratize data and free all these silos and let people get all these silos and let people get all these silos and let people get monetized for it. monetized for it. monetized for it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> a farmer would say, you know, it's going >> a farmer would say, you know, it's going >> a farmer would say, you know, it's going to cost me this much to put a bunch of to cost me this much to put a bunch of to cost me this much to put a bunch of soil moisture sensors in my thing, but soil moisture sensors in my thing, but soil moisture sensors in my thing, but if I could sell that data to, you know, if I could sell that data to, you know, if I could sell that data to, you know, weather state weather services and weather state weather services and weather state weather services and whoever else wanted to use it, whoever else wanted to use it, whoever else wanted to use it, you know, that this could be a lucrative you know, that this could be a lucrative you know, that this could be a lucrative business. So, how do we unlock data? business. So, how do we unlock data? business. So, how do we unlock data? Everyone talks about unlocking data, Everyone talks about unlocking data, Everyone talks about unlocking data, but it's all about money. So, you know, but it's all about money. So, you know, but it's all about money. So, you know, data's worth something. And then how do data's worth something. And then how do data's worth something. And then how do we make sure that it's not abused? These we make sure that it's not abused? These we make sure that it's not abused? These are you know, some of the challenges you are you know, some of the challenges you are you know, some of the challenges you know, people are trying to figure out. know, people are trying to figure out. know, people are trying to figure out. >> And yeah, and maybe maybe some of these >> And yeah, and maybe maybe some of these >> And yeah, and maybe maybe some of these networks like Helium had a networks like Helium had a networks like Helium had a similar problem. All the stuff looked similar problem. All the stuff looked similar problem. All the stuff looked great on paper. great on paper. great on paper. I mean so many. There's a company called I mean so many. There's a company called I mean so many. There's a company called Energize or Energy Energize or Energy Energize or Energy of the UK that was looking to do that of the UK that was looking to do that of the UK that was looking to do that with with with you know, grid and solar, right? Um but you know, grid and solar, right? Um but you know, grid and solar, right? Um but maybe these things have to just maybe these things have to just maybe these things have to just form organically somehow and then you form organically somehow and then you form organically somehow and then you in more of a network first in more of a network first in more of a network first technology technology technology later kind of approach, but if you put later kind of approach, but if you put later kind of approach, but if you put the technology first, especially crypto the technology first, especially crypto the technology first, especially crypto related stuff related stuff related stuff it it it just becomes a just becomes a just becomes a you know you know you know becomes a a joke.

becomes a a joke. becomes a a joke. And you know what guys the track record And you know what guys the track record And you know what guys the track record is horrible. is horrible. is horrible. There I think about There I think about There I think about a single crypto venture that's actually a single crypto venture that's actually a single crypto venture that's actually done good for the done good for the done good for the for anything other than provide for anything other than provide for anything other than provide uh you know uh you know uh you know uh uh uh you know enrichment for a very small you know enrichment for a very small you know enrichment for a very small number of people really. That I mean So number of people really. That I mean So number of people really. That I mean So then talking about the weather and then talking about the weather and then talking about the weather and bringing that together bringing that together bringing that together >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> and you're right sound like And then >> and you're right sound like And then >> and you're right sound like And then Leonard taking the hairspray and taking Leonard taking the hairspray and taking Leonard taking the hairspray and taking it to a different level. Let me just say it to a different level. Let me just say it to a different level. Let me just say something that everyone can relate to. I something that everyone can relate to. I something that everyone can relate to. I don't know if it was on an episode of don't know if it was on an episode of don't know if it was on an episode of Star Trek next generation or if it was Star Trek next generation or if it was Star Trek next generation or if it was one of the Star Trek movies, but one of the Star Trek movies, but one of the Star Trek movies, but Jean-Luc Picard there was some situation Jean-Luc Picard there was some situation Jean-Luc Picard there was some situation where He has no hair, no need for where He has no hair, no need for where He has no hair, no need for Aquanet, but yes. some there was some Aquanet, but yes. some there was some Aquanet, but yes. some there was some deal where someone said they were they deal where someone said they were they deal where someone said they were they were killed cuz a tornado hit their were killed cuz a tornado hit their were killed cuz a tornado hit their house and then of course this is the house and then of course this is the house and then of course this is the 24th century or whatever and Picard I 24th century or whatever and Picard I 24th century or whatever and Picard I remember him saying, "Well, that's remember him saying, "Well, that's remember him saying, "Well, that's impossible. The weather control systems impossible. The weather control systems impossible. The weather control systems would never allow that to happen." would never allow that to happen." would never allow that to happen." Um and it it just hit me Um and it it just hit me Um and it it just hit me how do we get to that?

how do we get to that? how do we get to that? How do we and it it probably is insane How do we and it it probably is insane How do we and it it probably is insane amount of sensors and connectivity and amount of sensors and connectivity and amount of sensors and connectivity and pooling all the data around everywhere pooling all the data around everywhere pooling all the data around everywhere together dynamically. together dynamically. together dynamically. Uh you may not be able to stop the Uh you may not be able to stop the Uh you may not be able to stop the weather. Well, we might figure that out. weather. Well, we might figure that out. weather. Well, we might figure that out. I mean I've heard of some I think there I mean I've heard of some I think there I mean I've heard of some I think there was a president that proposed nuking was a president that proposed nuking was a president that proposed nuking hurricanes or something like that which hurricanes or something like that which hurricanes or something like that which I don't know that might work. I don't I don't know that might work. I don't I don't know that might work. I don't know it might work. Um Nuking know it might work. Um Nuking know it might work. Um Nuking Yeah, I remember that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean theoretically if you explode, you I mean theoretically if you explode, you I mean theoretically if you explode, you know, a megaton bomb inside a hurricane, know, a megaton bomb inside a hurricane, know, a megaton bomb inside a hurricane, it probably will dissipate. Yeah. I it probably will dissipate. Yeah. I it probably will dissipate. Yeah. I don't think there's any other side don't think there's any other side don't think there's any other side effects from that. effects from that. effects from that. >> But like well >> But like well >> But like well it could actually make it worse. it could actually make it worse. it could actually make it worse. >> But what But what has IoT always been >> But what But what has IoT always been >> But what But what has IoT always been about? You know, it's this early warning about? You know, it's this early warning about? You know, it's this early warning and sometimes it's predictive and and we and sometimes it's predictive and and we and sometimes it's predictive and and we do it on machines and things like that, do it on machines and things like that, do it on machines and things like that, but it we it's so hard to do it on but it we it's so hard to do it on but it we it's so hard to do it on Mother Nature, isn't it? Um Mother Nature, isn't it? Um Mother Nature, isn't it? Um >> Yeah, but >> Yeah, but >> Yeah, but you're making an interest you're I mean, you're making an interest you're I mean, you're making an interest you're I mean, it's interesting. Um it's interesting. Um it's interesting. Um IoT helps you IoT helps you IoT helps you maybe get visibility to a problem that maybe get visibility to a problem that maybe get visibility to a problem that might happen.

might happen. might happen. Um Um Um that that's the role of IoT, but that that's the role of IoT, but that that's the role of IoT, but you know, you know, you know, what you really need to do is uh make what you really need to do is uh make what you really need to do is uh make sure that the sure that the sure that the I mean, to to address the problem, I mean, to to address the problem, I mean, to to address the problem, right? IoT doesn't address the problem. right? IoT doesn't address the problem. right? IoT doesn't address the problem. It just gives you visibility to it. It just gives you visibility to it. It just gives you visibility to it. Allows you to manage it when there's an Allows you to manage it when there's an Allows you to manage it when there's an incident related to the problem. In this incident related to the problem. In this incident related to the problem. In this case, case, case, you know, all the stuff that we're you know, all the stuff that we're you know, all the stuff that we're doing, you know, uh to the planet and I doing, you know, uh to the planet and I doing, you know, uh to the planet and I mean, all you have to do is take a mean, all you have to do is take a mean, all you have to do is take a flight to see the human footprint. flight to see the human footprint. flight to see the human footprint. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> You know, like we have golf courses in >> You know, like we have golf courses in >> You know, like we have golf courses in the middle of the desert. I mean, come the middle of the desert. I mean, come the middle of the desert. I mean, come on. on. on. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> But it But it But it's even Have you >> But it But it But it's even Have you >> But it But it But it's even Have you seen the movie Pressure? I I saw it like seen the movie Pressure? I I saw it like seen the movie Pressure? I I saw it like this week. this week. this week. >> Yeah. That was interesting. >> Yeah. That was interesting. >> Yeah. That was interesting. >> And he debates over and over who to >> And he debates over and over who to >> And he debates over and over who to trust because they're taking historical trust because they're taking historical trust because they're taking historical data and looking at the patterns. AI data and looking at the patterns. AI data and looking at the patterns. AI could do that in seconds these days. could do that in seconds these days. could do that in seconds these days. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, uh you know, without even IoT >> So, uh you know, without even IoT >> So, uh you know, without even IoT sensors, you know, there sensors, you know, there sensors, you know, there some things remain the same. some things remain the same. some things remain the same. Can AI comb enough not only weather, Can AI comb enough not only weather, Can AI comb enough not only weather, diseases, and stuff like that. So, I I diseases, and stuff like that. So, I I diseases, and stuff like that. So, I I started thinking of the movie Pressure. started thinking of the movie Pressure. started thinking of the movie Pressure. >> That was That That really good. I I >> That was That That really good. I I >> That was That That really good. I I didn't know what to expect. It was all didn't know what to expect. It was all didn't know what to expect. It was all about weather. about weather. about weather. >> And D-Day. >> And D-Day. >> And D-Day. Leonard and Pete, have did you Have you Leonard and Pete, have did you Have you Leonard and Pete, have did you Have you seen it? seen it? seen it? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Not yet. >> Not yet. >> Not yet. >> Now Brendan Fraser plays Dwight >> Now Brendan Fraser plays Dwight >> Now Brendan Fraser plays Dwight Eisenhower. And he Eisenhower. And he Eisenhower. And he rather I don't want to ruin the movie rather I don't want to ruin the movie rather I don't want to ruin the movie for you. It's a great movie. But the for you. It's a great movie. But the for you. It's a great movie. But the weather plays a big part of predicting weather plays a big part of predicting weather plays a big part of predicting when they they pick D-Day. And he has when they they pick D-Day. And he has when they they pick D-Day. And he has you know two people and and you know you know two people and and you know you know two people and and you know >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> debating in using historical data to say >> debating in using historical data to say >> debating in using historical data to say this is the you know this is when it's this is the you know this is when it's this is the you know this is when it's going to be because of going to be because of going to be because of the weather has to be perfect conditions the weather has to be perfect conditions the weather has to be perfect conditions have to be perfect for moon and have to be perfect for moon and have to be perfect for moon and everything. everything. everything. >> Well, you know who figured all that >> Well, you know who figured all that >> Well, you know who figured all that stuff out long time ago is Sun Tzu. stuff out long time ago is Sun Tzu. stuff out long time ago is Sun Tzu. You know, that's just the art of the art You know, that's just the art of the art You know, that's just the art of the art of war. They had all that stuff out. I of war. They had all that stuff out. I of war. They had all that stuff out. I mean mean mean >> But that was the whole thing cuz you >> But that was the whole thing cuz you >> But that was the whole thing cuz you know you're right there's the notion of know you're right there's the notion of know you're right there's the notion of you have the other you have the other you have the other Yeah, the one guy who's basically saying Yeah, the one guy who's basically saying Yeah, the one guy who's basically saying it's going to be fine based on it's going to be fine based on it's going to be fine based on historical data going back 50 years or historical data going back 50 years or historical data going back 50 years or whatever. It never does this.

whatever. It never does this. whatever. It never does this. Uh and then you have the other guy who's Uh and then you have the other guy who's Uh and then you have the other guy who's kind of the stirring the plot with more kind of the stirring the plot with more kind of the stirring the plot with more tech and whatever and he's just like tech and whatever and he's just like tech and whatever and he's just like dude, the reason you were right all the dude, the reason you were right all the dude, the reason you were right all the time is you were predicting weather in time is you were predicting weather in time is you were predicting weather in North Africa and you had it easy. It was North Africa and you had it easy. It was North Africa and you had it easy. It was sunny and hot every day. sunny and hot every day. sunny and hot every day. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You know >> You know >> You know >> being a weatherman in San Diego. >> being a weatherman in San Diego. >> being a weatherman in San Diego. >> Exactly. Or if you remember that uh >> Exactly. Or if you remember that uh >> Exactly. Or if you remember that uh movie with Steve Martin a long time ago movie with Steve Martin a long time ago movie with Steve Martin a long time ago where he was a weatherman in LA and he'd where he was a weatherman in LA and he'd where he was a weatherman in LA and he'd be [clears throat] on the news. I think be [clears throat] on the news. I think be [clears throat] on the news. I think it was LA Story or something funny like it was LA Story or something funny like it was LA Story or something funny like >> Yeah, LA Story. >> Yeah, LA Story. >> Yeah, LA Story. >> Remember he's doing the weather and he >> Remember he's doing the weather and he >> Remember he's doing the weather and he just like throwing these little magnetic just like throwing these little magnetic just like throwing these little magnetic SUNSHINES ON IT. 75 75 75 75. HE DIDN'T SUNSHINES ON IT. 75 75 75 75. HE DIDN'T SUNSHINES ON IT. 75 75 75 75. HE DIDN'T even have to know even have to know even have to know what the weather [laughter] was. It was what the weather [laughter] was. It was what the weather [laughter] was. It was the same in LA. the same in LA. the same in LA. >> Yeah, and I I'm sure that the the the >> Yeah, and I I'm sure that the the the >> Yeah, and I I'm sure that the the the Nazi generals were pretty pissed off Nazi generals were pretty pissed off Nazi generals were pretty pissed off when they they were told to march their when they they were told to march their when they they were told to march their soldiers in you know into Russia to soldiers in you know into Russia to soldiers in you know into Russia to invade. invade. invade. >> That idea. >> That idea. >> That idea. >> And >> And >> And >> General Winter took took them all out, >> General Winter took took them all out, >> General Winter took took them all out, you know?

you know? you know? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He forgot about Napoleon. >> He forgot about Napoleon. >> He forgot about Napoleon. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This is a Wait a minute. [laughter] >> This is a Wait a minute. [laughter] >> This is a Wait a minute. [laughter] I think this might be a bad idea. I think this might be a bad idea. I think this might be a bad idea. >> Hey, by the way, >> Hey, by the way, >> Hey, by the way, >> the oracle told me that we should >> the oracle told me that we should >> the oracle told me that we should wait until about Christmas time. wait until about Christmas time. wait until about Christmas time. >> We'll get a We'll get a >> We'll get a We'll get a >> We'll get a We'll get a >> Watch uh >> Watch uh >> Watch uh By the way, if if you got Apple TV, By the way, if if you got Apple TV, By the way, if if you got Apple TV, watch Tom Hanks' World War II watch Tom Hanks' World War II watch Tom Hanks' World War II documentary. I've been watching it. documentary. I've been watching it. documentary. I've been watching it. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. It's like it's a multi-part >> Yeah. It's like it's a multi-part >> Yeah. It's like it's a multi-part series. It's really good. series. It's really good. series. It's really good. >> We need a reminder. >> We need a reminder. >> We need a reminder. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> By the way, uh speaking of instrumenting >> By the way, uh speaking of instrumenting >> By the way, uh speaking of instrumenting the Earth, there's this effort called the Earth, there's this effort called the Earth, there's this effort called One Amazon, One Amazon, One Amazon, o n e Amazon, if you look it up, and o n e Amazon, if you look it up, and o n e Amazon, if you look it up, and it's about it's about it's about They call it the Internet of Forests. They call it the Internet of Forests. They call it the Internet of Forests. It's like They're It's like They're It's like They're basically instrumenting the Amazon basically instrumenting the Amazon basically instrumenting the Amazon rainforest to predict rainforest to predict rainforest to predict uh well, to monitor for, you know, uh well, to monitor for, you know, uh well, to monitor for, you know, deforestation and then abuse, but also deforestation and then abuse, but also deforestation and then abuse, but also So, it's an interesting exercise in sort So, it's an interesting exercise in sort So, it's an interesting exercise in sort of of of >> see what page that one's on here. >> see what page that one's on here. >> see what page that one's on here. >> Yeah, what page? It should be a whole >> Yeah, what page? It should be a whole >> Yeah, what page? It should be a whole chapter in your book, Rob.

chapter in your book, Rob. chapter in your book, Rob. >> It actually is. >> It actually is. >> It actually is. >> Very cool, but it's it's, you know, how >> Very cool, but it's it's, you know, how >> Very cool, but it's it's, you know, how do you instrument, you know, Mother do you instrument, you know, Mother do you instrument, you know, Mother Nature, right? How do you get these Nature, right? How do you get these Nature, right? How do you get these signals out there? signals out there? signals out there? >> Yeah, I think it's it's >> Yeah, I think it's it's >> Yeah, I think it's it's officially more than just a book, it's a officially more than just a book, it's a officially more than just a book, it's a tome. tome. tome. I mean, that thing is like, you know, I mean, that thing is like, you know, I mean, that thing is like, you know, something you would like grab out of a something you would like grab out of a something you would like grab out of a medieval library bookshelf. medieval library bookshelf. medieval library bookshelf. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Like blow the dust off of it. >> Like blow the dust off of it. >> Like blow the dust off of it. >> Look at the size of that thing. >> Look at the size of that thing. >> Look at the size of that thing. >> You hand it off from generation to >> You hand it off from generation to >> You hand it off from generation to generation. generation. generation. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> That's right. Gram- Grampappy's copy. >> That's right. Gram- Grampappy's copy. >> That's right. Gram- Grampappy's copy. >> Gram- Exactly. But yes, there's there's >> Gram- Exactly. But yes, there's there's >> Gram- Exactly. But yes, there's there's a use case, there's stuff on a use case, there's stuff on a use case, there's stuff on deforestation, deforestation, deforestation, listening for chainsaws. listening for chainsaws. listening for chainsaws. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's already some pre-trained ML >> There's already some pre-trained ML >> There's already some pre-trained ML models that works with Edge AI, perhaps models that works with Edge AI, perhaps models that works with Edge AI, perhaps you've heard of it. Um and it can detect you've heard of it. Um and it can detect you've heard of it. Um and it can detect the acoustic signature of a chainsaw in the acoustic signature of a chainsaw in the acoustic signature of a chainsaw in a location like the Amazon forest. a location like the Amazon forest. a location like the Amazon forest. Um, yeah. Um, yeah. Um, yeah. It's all in there, folks. It's all in It's all in there, folks. It's all in It's all in there, folks. It's all in there.

there. there. It's all good in there. It's all good in there. It's all good in there. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Best book ever. >> Best book ever. >> Best book ever. >> Best book ever. It's terrific. >> Best book ever. It's terrific. >> Best book ever. It's terrific. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, um, yeah, but speaking of going >> Yeah, um, yeah, but speaking of going [clears throat] back to that that whole [clears throat] back to that that whole [clears throat] back to that that whole Anthropic Open AI thingy. Yeah, it's Anthropic Open AI thingy. Yeah, it's Anthropic Open AI thingy. Yeah, it's funny, man. funny, man. funny, man. >> So, Anthropic did this, too? >> So, Anthropic did this, too? >> So, Anthropic did this, too? >> They They wrote this >> They They wrote this >> They They wrote this They They claim that their models also They They claim that their models also They They claim that their models also jumped the sandbox and are highly jumped the sandbox and are highly jumped the sandbox and are highly dangerous and they're hard to contain. dangerous and they're hard to contain. dangerous and they're hard to contain. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> What kind of sandbox are they using? I >> What kind of sandbox are they using? I >> What kind of sandbox are they using? I mean, the whole idea mean, the whole idea mean, the whole idea >> actual sandbox for kids. >> actual sandbox for kids. >> actual sandbox for kids. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. Shovels and stuff. Shovels and stuff. Shovels and stuff. >> Oh, jeez. >> Oh, jeez. >> Oh, jeez. >> I mean, I think they need to fire the >> I mean, I think they need to fire the >> I mean, I think they need to fire the sandbox designer. I mean, sandbox designer. I mean, sandbox designer. I mean, >> Yes. Yes, that's the problem. >> Yes. Yes, that's the problem. >> Yes. Yes, that's the problem. >> Yeah. So, I mean, Devin, if you haven't >> Yeah. So, I mean, Devin, if you haven't >> Yeah. So, I mean, Devin, if you haven't already heard this IIT coffee talk already heard this IIT coffee talk already heard this IIT coffee talk concept yet, but there is this idea of concept yet, but there is this idea of concept yet, but there is this idea of Battlestar Galactica and air gapping. Battlestar Galactica and air gapping. Battlestar Galactica and air gapping. Uh, they should they should use like air Uh, they should they should use like air Uh, they should they should use like air gapped environment, right? But these gapped environment, right? But these gapped environment, right? But these guys are guys are guys are probably lazy just, you know, probably lazy just, you know, probably lazy just, you know, sticking some cloud somewhere, one of sticking some cloud somewhere, one of sticking some cloud somewhere, one of the hyperscaler clouds, and then the hyperscaler clouds, and then the hyperscaler clouds, and then thinking that, you know, a network thinking that, you know, a network thinking that, you know, a network sandbox is network sandbox or or a sandbox is network sandbox or or a sandbox is network sandbox or or a sandbox container is good enough. I sandbox container is good enough. I sandbox container is good enough. I mean, right? You have to have You mean, right? You have to have You mean, right? You have to have You probably have to have the entire probably have to have the entire probably have to have the entire physical location isolated from any physical location isolated from any physical location isolated from any network. Yeah.

network. Yeah. network. Yeah. >> But I just think it's funny how like >> But I just think it's funny how like >> But I just think it's funny how like this is the new marketing angle. Like this is the new marketing angle. Like this is the new marketing angle. Like Like, you know, if Open AI says Like, you know, if Open AI says Like, you know, if Open AI says >> What is the angle because I don't think >> What is the angle because I don't think >> What is the angle because I don't think it's apparent to everyone. What is the it's apparent to everyone. What is the it's apparent to everyone. What is the >> Well, the Yeah, the angle is So, So, >> Well, the Yeah, the angle is So, So, >> Well, the Yeah, the angle is So, So, Open AI says our models are so powerful Open AI says our models are so powerful Open AI says our models are so powerful and so dangerous that they're a threat and so dangerous that they're a threat and so dangerous that they're a threat to humanity. Oh, and by the way, you can to humanity. Oh, and by the way, you can to humanity. Oh, and by the way, you can rent it for 20 bucks a month rent it for 20 bucks a month rent it for 20 bucks a month Um, to power your own business. And then Um, to power your own business. And then Um, to power your own business. And then Anthropic is like, "Oh, you think your Anthropic is like, "Oh, you think your Anthropic is like, "Oh, you think your models are dangerous to society? Well, models are dangerous to society? Well, models are dangerous to society? Well, ours jumped the sandbox and did this. ours jumped the sandbox and did this. ours jumped the sandbox and did this. So, ours is super dangerous and the So, ours is super dangerous and the So, ours is super dangerous and the whole thing needs to be shut down. By whole thing needs to be shut down. By whole thing needs to be shut down. By the way, you can buy it for like 15 the way, you can buy it for like 15 the way, you can buy it for like 15 bucks a month." bucks a month." bucks a month." Um Um Um this is like the this is the new model this is like the this is the new model this is like the this is the new model for like these desperate model like for like these desperate model like for like these desperate model like closed weight model makers closed weight model makers closed weight model makers who want to do a winner-take-all tech who want to do a winner-take-all tech who want to do a winner-take-all tech billionaire like future who say like you billionaire like future who say like you billionaire like future who say like you you know our models are really the you know our models are really the you know our models are really the center of the universe and they're super center of the universe and they're super center of the universe and they're super dangerous and so Right. But this is the dangerous and so Right. But this is the dangerous and so Right. But this is the this is the angle for these guys cuz this is the angle for these guys cuz this is the angle for these guys cuz they're losing they're getting their they're losing they're getting their they're losing they're getting their asses kicked asses kicked asses kicked >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> by Kimi and all these open weight models >> by Kimi and all these open weight models >> by Kimi and all these open weight models and everything else out there.

and everything else out there. and everything else out there. >> Who came to the rescue? Who came to the >> Who came to the rescue? Who came to the >> Who came to the rescue? Who came to the rescue to save the day? rescue to save the day? rescue to save the day? It was one of the GLP-5.2 It was one of the GLP-5.2 It was one of the GLP-5.2 Chinese model was what hugging face. It Chinese model was what hugging face. It Chinese model was what hugging face. It was the only model they could do that was the only model they could do that was the only model they could do that could actually could actually could actually return fire, figure out what was going return fire, figure out what was going return fire, figure out what was going on. on. on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh cuz try to use Open AI and Anthropic >> Uh cuz try to use Open AI and Anthropic >> Uh cuz try to use Open AI and Anthropic models it's like, "Oh, we won't let you models it's like, "Oh, we won't let you models it's like, "Oh, we won't let you do this or you can't do this." And so do this or you can't do this." And so do this or you can't do this." And so they're like, "All right, grab GLP they're like, "All right, grab GLP they're like, "All right, grab GLP GLP." GLP." GLP." >> No, I'm >> No, I'm >> No, I'm telling you these these guys are so telling you these these guys are so telling you these these guys are so lost. And then, you know, the funny lost. And then, you know, the funny lost. And then, you know, the funny thing is now you have thing is now you have thing is now you have Nvidia Jensen taking advantage of the Nvidia Jensen taking advantage of the Nvidia Jensen taking advantage of the situation cuz they have Nemotron, situation cuz they have Nemotron, situation cuz they have Nemotron, right, which is a open right, which is a open right, which is a open a weight model. And he now he's trying a weight model. And he now he's trying a weight model. And he now he's trying to muscle his way in there to muscle his way in there to muscle his way in there >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, the open what is it? The open weight >> No, the open what is it? The open weight >> No, the open what is it? The open weight is it the open weight model alliance? is it the open weight model alliance? is it the open weight model alliance? Have you seen that? That was Have you seen that? That was Have you seen that? That was launched last week. And you notice launched last week. And you notice launched last week. And you notice there's no there's no model providers in there's no there's no model providers in there's no there's no model providers in the open weight model alliance. Like the open weight model alliance. Like the open weight model alliance. Like Anthropic is not in there. Open AI is Anthropic is not in there. Open AI is Anthropic is not in there. Open AI is not in there. It's just hardware folks not in there. It's just hardware folks not in there. It's just hardware folks again.

again. again. >> Google's not in there. People don't talk >> Google's not in there. People don't talk >> Google's not in there. People don't talk about Google. Google's in none of that. about Google. Google's in none of that. about Google. Google's in none of that. >> Right. But it's like an it's an alliance >> Right. But it's like an it's an alliance >> Right. But it's like an it's an alliance for good for the safety of humanity. for good for the safety of humanity. for good for the safety of humanity. Like give me a [ __ ] break. Like give me a [ __ ] break. Like give me a [ __ ] break. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> we create our own open weight model >> we create our own open weight model >> we create our own open weight model here? here? here? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And copy on that. Can we do that? >> And copy on that. Can we do that? >> And copy on that. Can we do that? >> Yeah. Yes. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Yeah. Yes. >> I mean, if we if we string together >> I mean, if we if we string together >> I mean, if we if we string together enough 486s, enough 486s, enough 486s, I think we could train our own model. I think we could train our own model. I think we could train our own model. >> we could. Well, should we Let's make >> we could. Well, should we Let's make >> we could. Well, should we Let's make sure we keep it in a sandbox though, sure we keep it in a sandbox though, sure we keep it in a sandbox though, Rob. Rob. Rob. >> No, no, I mean, we we got to leave the >> No, no, I mean, we we got to leave the >> No, no, I mean, we we got to leave the sandbox because it it it'd be a slacker sandbox because it it it'd be a slacker sandbox because it it it'd be a slacker if you if you're not smart enough to if you if you're not smart enough to if you if you're not smart enough to leave the sandbox. leave the sandbox. leave the sandbox. >> Yeah, well, if it's a 4086, it's just by >> Yeah, well, if it's a 4086, it's just by >> Yeah, well, if it's a 4086, it's just by default sandbox. default sandbox. default sandbox. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Well, yeah, we'll just make a >> Well, yeah, we'll just make a >> Well, yeah, we'll just make a a weaker sandbox. a weaker sandbox. a weaker sandbox. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Oh my gosh. No, >> Oh my gosh. No, >> Oh my gosh. No, >> More of a terrarium. More of a terrarium >> More of a terrarium. More of a terrarium >> More of a terrarium. More of a terrarium than a sandbox. than a sandbox. than a sandbox. >> Let's get like a million 486 66 DX4s >> Let's get like a million 486 66 DX4s >> Let's get like a million 486 66 DX4s 100s, whatever, and we'll just put it 100s, whatever, and we'll just put it 100s, whatever, and we'll just put it all together into a I don't want to call all together into a I don't want to call all together into a I don't want to call it a supercomputer, it a supercomputer, it a supercomputer, but a a good computer.

but a a good computer. but a a good computer. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You We're going to try to make it be as >> You We're going to try to make it be as >> You We're going to try to make it be as dumb as us, maybe. dumb as us, maybe. dumb as us, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Oh my it's crazy. Crazy. Yeah, it's just >> Oh my it's crazy. Crazy. Yeah, it's just >> Oh my it's crazy. Crazy. Yeah, it's just crazy. crazy. crazy. >> It is AI age. I know we've seen too many >> It is AI age. I know we've seen too many >> It is AI age. I know we've seen too many memes with Sarah Connor. You know, I memes with Sarah Connor. You know, I memes with Sarah Connor. You know, I know I've seen lots of them. And here's know I've seen lots of them. And here's know I've seen lots of them. And here's one. I guess I hadn't seen it. Maybe one. I guess I hadn't seen it. Maybe one. I guess I hadn't seen it. Maybe you've already seen it though. You know, you've already seen it though. You know, you've already seen it though. You know, like when they put Sarah Connor in an like when they put Sarah Connor in an like when they put Sarah Connor in an insane asylum cuz she's attacking data insane asylum cuz she's attacking data insane asylum cuz she's attacking data centers from Skynet. centers from Skynet. centers from Skynet. It's all happening. It's all happening. It's all happening. >> Yeah, I'm saying. >> Yeah, I'm saying. >> Yeah, I'm saying. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Just saying. Exactly. >> Just saying. Exactly. >> Just saying. Exactly. >> Yeah, and you know, the the thing that >> Yeah, and you know, the the thing that >> Yeah, and you know, the the thing that Okay, so the reason why Okay, so the reason why Okay, so the reason why you know, some people call me cynical. you know, some people call me cynical. you know, some people call me cynical. I'm not cynical. I I'm very optimistic I'm not cynical. I I'm very optimistic I'm not cynical. I I'm very optimistic about technology where it is, right? Uh about technology where it is, right? Uh about technology where it is, right? Uh I I try to be practical about because I I try to be practical about because I I try to be practical about because that's the only thing that anyone can that's the only thing that anyone can that's the only thing that anyone can really sell in a sustainable way that's really sell in a sustainable way that's really sell in a sustainable way that's valuable for their customers. And so valuable for their customers. And so valuable for their customers. And so when we have to deal with all this like when we have to deal with all this like when we have to deal with all this like craziness, craziness, craziness, that's the sad thing because there's so that's the sad thing because there's so that's the sad thing because there's so there are these people who actually want there are these people who actually want there are these people who actually want to take care of their customers. They to take care of their customers. They to take care of their customers. They actually put their customers first.

actually put their customers first. actually put their customers first. That What a concept. Yeah, can you That What a concept. Yeah, can you That What a concept. Yeah, can you I mean, isn't that like pathetic that I mean, isn't that like pathetic that I mean, isn't that like pathetic that we're in a situation where people who we're in a situation where people who we're in a situation where people who are actually want to look after their are actually want to look after their are actually want to look after their customers have customers who are customers have customers who are customers have customers who are distracted by a shiny object. distracted by a shiny object. distracted by a shiny object. So, they waste money So, they waste money So, they waste money and and and these these folks who have great these these folks who have great these these folks who have great technology and products can't help their technology and products can't help their technology and products can't help their customers with core foundational things, customers with core foundational things, customers with core foundational things, which now are circling back to you which now are circling back to you which now are circling back to you because now everyone is discovering, because now everyone is discovering, because now everyone is discovering, "Oh, hey, wait a minute. In order to "Oh, hey, wait a minute. In order to "Oh, hey, wait a minute. In order to have AI, we need to have our data and have AI, we need to have our data and have AI, we need to have our data and knowledge stuff in place. Oh, we need to knowledge stuff in place. Oh, we need to knowledge stuff in place. Oh, we need to have, you know, have, you know, have, you know, um, our, you know, security modernized um, our, you know, security modernized um, our, you know, security modernized so that we can safely adopt the this AI so that we can safely adopt the this AI so that we can safely adopt the this AI stuff." And I mean, seriously, it's a stuff." And I mean, seriously, it's a stuff." And I mean, seriously, it's a crazy train out there, but you know, you crazy train out there, but you know, you crazy train out there, but you know, you know what I'm saying is know what I'm saying is know what I'm saying is that's what we try to to, um, hold down that's what we try to to, um, hold down that's what we try to to, um, hold down here on IoT Coffee Talk is that here on IoT Coffee Talk is that here on IoT Coffee Talk is that that, um, you know, the nonsense so that that, um, you know, the nonsense so that that, um, you know, the nonsense so that everyone can, you know, have visibility everyone can, you know, have visibility everyone can, you know, have visibility to what what's practical, you know?

to what what's practical, you know? to what what's practical, you know? Anyway, I don't know. Anyway, I don't know. Anyway, I don't know. I'm just like freaking really fatigued I'm just like freaking really fatigued I'm just like freaking really fatigued from all this stuff, man. Constant have, from all this stuff, man. Constant have, from all this stuff, man. Constant have, you know, you know, you know, it cuz it it really is like idiocracy, it cuz it it really is like idiocracy, it cuz it it really is like idiocracy, you know? I mean, if you step back and you know? I mean, if you step back and you know? I mean, if you step back and you look at what's going on, it's like you look at what's going on, it's like you look at what's going on, it's like you got to be effing kidding me. you got to be effing kidding me. you got to be effing kidding me. And you have a lot of smart people who And you have a lot of smart people who And you have a lot of smart people who are drinking the Kool-Aid. It's just are drinking the Kool-Aid. It's just are drinking the Kool-Aid. It's just Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, astonishing. astonishing. astonishing. >> air one water that's actually, you know, >> air one water that's actually, you know, >> air one water that's actually, you know, hose water. You know, water is hose water. You know, water is hose water. You know, water is you know, I'm going to bring this back you know, I'm going to bring this back you know, I'm going to bring this back to, you know, the to, you know, the to, you know, the water. The whole [laughter] circle and water. The whole [laughter] circle and water. The whole [laughter] circle and you may have missed and you've seen that you may have missed and you've seen that you may have missed and you've seen that it was Jimmy Kimmel or someone? They it was Jimmy Kimmel or someone? They it was Jimmy Kimmel or someone? They were filling Erewhon glass, you know, a were filling Erewhon glass, you know, a were filling Erewhon glass, you know, a cup that said Erewhon on it with cup that said Erewhon on it with cup that said Erewhon on it with hose water and and putting out on the hose water and and putting out on the hose water and and putting out on the streets of LA and people were drinking streets of LA and people were drinking streets of LA and people were drinking going, going, going, "Ooh, this vintage This is amazing. "Ooh, this vintage This is amazing. "Ooh, this vintage This is amazing. It's, you know, but I think we we get It's, you know, but I think we we get It's, you know, but I think we we get through the hype of it's AI branded, but through the hype of it's AI branded, but through the hype of it's AI branded, but you know, water is foundational life. you know, water is foundational life. you know, water is foundational life. You know, AI, ML, whatever you want to You know, AI, ML, whatever you want to You know, AI, ML, whatever you want to call is foundation. But we get caught in call is foundation. But we get caught in call is foundation. But we get caught in the brand and the hype and we think, you the brand and the hype and we think, you the brand and the hype and we think, you know, we're escalating this. But to your know, we're escalating this. But to your know, we're escalating this. But to your point, point, point, the ones that are giving life-saving the ones that are giving life-saving the ones that are giving life-saving water that's clean and everything like water that's clean and everything like water that's clean and everything like that are overlooked by the ones that are that are overlooked by the ones that are that are overlooked by the ones that are packaging it in this nice shiny thing packaging it in this nice shiny thing packaging it in this nice shiny thing that maybe is overselling that maybe is overselling that maybe is overselling what the water does. It's $12 and what the water does. It's $12 and what the water does. It's $12 and it's $12.

it's $12. it's $12. >> been, you know, there's been there's >> been, you know, there's been there's >> been, you know, there's been there's been snake oil salesmen ever since been snake oil salesmen ever since been snake oil salesmen ever since there's been currency, you know, so there's been currency, you know, so there's been currency, you know, so it's the way it is, right? So, you just it's the way it is, right? So, you just it's the way it is, right? So, you just have to be careful out there and kind of have to be careful out there and kind of have to be careful out there and kind of Yeah, I've gone a little bit, but Yeah, I've gone a little bit, but Yeah, I've gone a little bit, but >> So, >> So, >> So, >> One of my favorite things of this week, >> One of my favorite things of this week, >> One of my favorite things of this week, if you I don't know if it's real, I if you I don't know if it's real, I if you I don't know if it's real, I haven't checked yet. They said LinkedIn haven't checked yet. They said LinkedIn haven't checked yet. They said LinkedIn has a sounds like AI slot button. has a sounds like AI slot button. has a sounds like AI slot button. And you can press And you can press And you can press >> Oh, really? You know, I haven't found >> Oh, really? You know, I haven't found >> Oh, really? You know, I haven't found it. it. it. >> Okay, I don't know if it's >> Okay, I don't know if it's >> Okay, I don't know if it's >> found that yet. That sounds like a AI >> found that yet. That sounds like a AI >> found that yet. That sounds like a AI slot thing. slot thing. slot thing. It's created. It's created. It's created. >> I know it's I know we say this too >> I know it's I know we say this too >> I know it's I know we say this too often, but there are certain people I often, but there are certain people I often, but there are certain people I know, whenever I post something on know, whenever I post something on know, whenever I post something on LinkedIn, LinkedIn, LinkedIn, they always have some nice comment that they always have some nice comment that they always have some nice comment that is just so obviously AI. is just so obviously AI. is just so obviously AI. >> Like mine. >> Like mine. >> Like mine. >> Like mine. >> Like mine. >> Like mine. >> Yeah, like yours. Yeah, like yours. >> Yeah, like yours. Yeah, like yours. >> Yeah, like yours. Yeah, like yours. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I mean, it's >> I mean, it's >> I mean, it's like it's written by a three-year-old. like it's written by a three-year-old. like it's written by a three-year-old. >> No, no, you're it's like you know, it's >> No, no, you're it's like you know, it's >> No, no, you're it's like you know, it's like, okay, the algorithm says I need to like, okay, the algorithm says I need to like, okay, the algorithm says I need to comment on people's stuff and that's comment on people's stuff and that's comment on people's stuff and that's going to help boost me. And so, I'm just going to help boost me. And so, I'm just going to help boost me. And so, I'm just going to copy and paste what they posted going to copy and paste what they posted going to copy and paste what they posted and I'll say, "Hey, ChatGPT, give me a and I'll say, "Hey, ChatGPT, give me a and I'll say, "Hey, ChatGPT, give me a good comment. Wow, this is really good comment. Wow, this is really good comment. Wow, this is really amazing how you put this together and I amazing how you put this together and I amazing how you put this together and I think the world would be think the world would be think the world would be It They all sound just like that. Yeah, It They all sound just like that. Yeah, It They all sound just like that. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean but yeah. No, I mean but yeah. No, I mean but >> think it's really obvious to me, but I >> think it's really obvious to me, but I >> think it's really obvious to me, but I don't know if the people doing it know don't know if the people doing it know don't know if the people doing it know that I know, that we know, that it's that I know, that we know, that it's that I know, that we know, that it's obvious slop and they don't actually obvious slop and they don't actually obvious slop and they don't actually have a brain.

have a brain. have a brain. >> But then you respond with another >> But then you respond with another >> But then you respond with another AI-generated comment to their AI-generated comment to their AI-generated comment to their AI-generated comment. AI-generated comment. AI-generated comment. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Saying, "Hey, that's a great comment." >> Saying, "Hey, that's a great comment." >> Saying, "Hey, that's a great comment." >> That's how it works. That's called the >> That's how it works. That's called the >> That's how it works. That's called the circular slop dynamic. circular slop dynamic. circular slop dynamic. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Circular slop dynamic? Did you just make >> Circular slop dynamic? Did you just make >> Circular slop dynamic? Did you just make that up? that up? that up? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> THE CIRCULAR SLOP DYNAMIC? OH MY GOD. >> THE CIRCULAR SLOP DYNAMIC? OH MY GOD. >> THE CIRCULAR SLOP DYNAMIC? OH MY GOD. HURRY POST HURRY POST HURRY POST >> IT'S THE CIRCLE of slop. >> IT'S THE CIRCLE of slop. >> IT'S THE CIRCLE of slop. >> The circle [laughter] of slop, I love >> The circle [laughter] of slop, I love >> The circle [laughter] of slop, I love it. it. it. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah, we we we can come up >> Yeah, we we we can come up >> Yeah, we we we can come up >> But how far How long until, you know, >> But how far How long until, you know, >> But how far How long until, you know, it's actually true that Rob has an it's actually true that Rob has an it's actually true that Rob has an implant that is channeling AI and implant that is channeling AI and implant that is channeling AI and everything he's coming is generated by everything he's coming is generated by everything he's coming is generated by AI, everything he's putting down? AI, everything he's putting down? AI, everything he's putting down? >> know How do we know that's not already >> know How do we know that's not already >> know How do we know that's not already happened? happened? happened? >> I >> I >> I >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> I mean, but you know what? >> I mean, but you know what? >> I mean, but you know what? >> I already have Neuralink implants. >> I already have Neuralink implants. >> I already have Neuralink implants. >> But you know, here's the interesting >> But you know, here's the interesting >> But you know, here's the interesting thing um thing um thing um about all this like about all this like about all this like um um um like like like let's call it just the metaverse-y kind let's call it just the metaverse-y kind let's call it just the metaverse-y kind of stuff because there is kind of a of stuff because there is kind of a of stuff because there is kind of a metaverse metaverse metaverse um forming. Uh um forming. Uh um forming. Uh and the alternative, let's say, uh and the alternative, let's say, uh and the alternative, let's say, uh digital or AI universe with all the digital or AI universe with all the digital or AI universe with all the prediction models and or whatever prediction models and or whatever prediction models and or whatever prediction markets and all this other prediction markets and all this other prediction markets and all this other [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Um Um Um they can drift dramatically from they can drift dramatically from they can drift dramatically from reality. You know, you have fake news, reality. You know, you have fake news, reality. You know, you have fake news, you have all this fraud, and all these you have all this fraud, and all these you have all this fraud, and all these bad actors um that are now being bad actors um that are now being bad actors um that are now being enabled. Yeah. Um there can be a enabled. Yeah. Um there can be a enabled. Yeah. Um there can be a tremendous drift from actual reality, tremendous drift from actual reality, tremendous drift from actual reality, whether it's a so- a societal whether it's a so- a societal whether it's a so- a societal reality or physical reality, you know, reality or physical reality, you know, reality or physical reality, you know, climate for instance.

climate for instance. climate for instance. Uh I mean, all these things uh Uh I mean, all these things uh Uh I mean, all these things uh the the digital digital view of all this the the digital digital view of all this the the digital digital view of all this stuff stuff stuff can be completely detached from reality can be completely detached from reality can be completely detached from reality at some point. And and um I guess the at some point. And and um I guess the at some point. And and um I guess the big you know, what's the correction big you know, what's the correction big you know, what's the correction mechanism, right? mechanism, right? mechanism, right? And I think that correction mechanism is And I think that correction mechanism is And I think that correction mechanism is some some some is like calamity of some sort. Not is like calamity of some sort. Not is like calamity of some sort. Not natural calamity, human calamity. And natural calamity, human calamity. And natural calamity, human calamity. And that that I think is one of the dangers that that I think is one of the dangers that that I think is one of the dangers of what's happening right now and what's of what's happening right now and what's of what's happening right now and what's getting accelerated, especially with getting accelerated, especially with getting accelerated, especially with this idea of prediction markets where this idea of prediction markets where this idea of prediction markets where people now start to gamble on the people now start to gamble on the people now start to gamble on the future, right? That that's literally future, right? That that's literally future, right? That that's literally what's happening. And then, you know, what's happening. And then, you know, what's happening. And then, you know, people taking stakes on certain kind of people taking stakes on certain kind of people taking stakes on certain kind of outcomes outcomes outcomes and then creating gravity for that and then creating gravity for that and then creating gravity for that outcome to happen. outcome to happen. outcome to happen. I I think I I think I I think I mean, think about it and you know, I mean, think about it and you know, I mean, think about it and you know, over time things will drift, right? Cuz over time things will drift, right? Cuz over time things will drift, right? Cuz those predictions those predictions those predictions and the fabricated outcomes, okay, and the fabricated outcomes, okay, and the fabricated outcomes, okay, affected outcomes can be completely affected outcomes can be completely affected outcomes can be completely detached from some core realities. And detached from some core realities. And detached from some core realities. And then when there's such a detachment, then when there's such a detachment, then when there's such a detachment, nasty stuff will will inevitably happen, nasty stuff will will inevitably happen, nasty stuff will will inevitably happen, you know? And I think this that's one of you know? And I think this that's one of you know? And I think this that's one of the the the problems with what we're problems with what we're problems with what we're we're looking at right now is everybody we're looking at right now is everybody we're looking at right now is everybody loves to jump into these technologies.

loves to jump into these technologies. loves to jump into these technologies. They don't look at the full life cycle They don't look at the full life cycle They don't look at the full life cycle maintenance of these things, right? Kind maintenance of these things, right? Kind maintenance of these things, right? Kind of like we don't give a crap about of like we don't give a crap about of like we don't give a crap about climate, right? We know that it's a climate, right? We know that it's a climate, right? We know that it's a problem that, you know, problem that, you know, problem that, you know, our behaviors are detached from what we our behaviors are detached from what we our behaviors are detached from what we should do to address the problem should do to address the problem should do to address the problem and now we suffer what we suffer now, and now we suffer what we suffer now, and now we suffer what we suffer now, which is which is which is >> we weren't talking about climate change >> we weren't talking about climate change >> we weren't talking about climate change anymore. I thought that was that was anymore. I thought that was that was anymore. I thought that was that was misspoken. misspoken. misspoken. >> Oh, yeah, we're still not talking about >> Oh, yeah, we're still not talking about >> Oh, yeah, we're still not talking about it. We Yeah, yeah, it's all fake news. it. We Yeah, yeah, it's all fake news. it. We Yeah, yeah, it's all fake news. >> Fake news. It's not [laughter] hot >> Fake news. It's not [laughter] hot >> Fake news. It's not [laughter] hot outside. There's not tornadoes in Green outside. There's not tornadoes in Green outside. There's not tornadoes in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It's not happening. Bay, Wisconsin. It's not happening. Bay, Wisconsin. It's not happening. >> of course this part of the transcript >> of course this part of the transcript >> of course this part of the transcript yeah, is going to um yeah, is going to um yeah, is going to um is going to be probably something we is going to be probably something we is going to be probably something we regret in the future because chat GPT is regret in the future because chat GPT is regret in the future because chat GPT is going to surface it up as going to surface it up as going to surface it up as us being climate change deniers. us being climate change deniers. us being climate change deniers. >> To your point, Pete, that's a big >> To your point, Pete, that's a big >> To your point, Pete, that's a big problem. Like when I'm thinking about problem. Like when I'm thinking about problem. Like when I'm thinking about this book that I have and I'm thinking this book that I have and I'm thinking this book that I have and I'm thinking who are the you know your your ICP cuz who are the you know your your ICP cuz who are the you know your your ICP cuz your ideal customer profile, who are the your ideal customer profile, who are the your ideal customer profile, who are the customers of this book? And when you customers of this book? And when you customers of this book? And when you think in at least in the corporate think in at least in the corporate think in at least in the corporate world, there used to be departments and world, there used to be departments and world, there used to be departments and people who are focused on sustainability people who are focused on sustainability people who are focused on sustainability and climate and they all had net zero and climate and they all had net zero and climate and they all had net zero commitments and everything.

commitments and everything. commitments and everything. And a lot of those people have gotten And a lot of those people have gotten And a lot of those people have gotten laid off now and that laid off now and that laid off now and that when I go to I'm not going to name the when I go to I'm not going to name the when I go to I'm not going to name the one giant computer company, when they one giant computer company, when they one giant computer company, when they had their sustainability person come out had their sustainability person come out had their sustainability person come out on stage and they go, on stage and they go, on stage and they go, "And we're going to hit our net zero "And we're going to hit our net zero "And we're going to hit our net zero targets of 2050." targets of 2050." targets of 2050." And I'm just like, "You should just get And I'm just like, "You should just get And I'm just like, "You should just get off the stage now." off the stage now." off the stage now." >> 2050. >> 2050. >> 2050. >> You're the the target was 2030. >> You're the the target was 2030. >> You're the the target was 2030. 2050 means basically we're going to put 2050 means basically we're going to put 2050 means basically we're going to put it so far out there, I'm going to be it so far out there, I'm going to be it so far out there, I'm going to be retired. I'm going to be kidding. retired. I'm going to be kidding. retired. I'm going to be kidding. >> The other the other dirty secret is they >> The other the other dirty secret is they >> The other the other dirty secret is they hit net zero targets by just buying hit net zero targets by just buying hit net zero targets by just buying credits. So they spend money to get credits. So they spend money to get credits. So they spend money to get their net zero targets. They're not their net zero targets. They're not their net zero targets. They're not actually doing net zero, they're just actually doing net zero, they're just actually doing net zero, they're just paying for net zero. paying for net zero. paying for net zero. Buying someone else's That's a whole Buying someone else's That's a whole Buying someone else's That's a whole other whole other discussion. Hey guys, other whole other discussion. Hey guys, other whole other discussion. Hey guys, I apologize I'm late but I also need to I apologize I'm late but I also need to I apologize I'm late but I also need to leave early. I'm actually speaking at leave early. I'm actually speaking at leave early. I'm actually speaking at AMD this morning for that ML systems AMD this morning for that ML systems AMD this morning for that ML systems stars program. So I need to scoot over stars program. So I need to scoot over stars program. So I need to scoot over there. I'm actually nearby at there. I'm actually nearby at there. I'm actually nearby at Huckleberry's restaurant by the way. Huckleberry's restaurant by the way. Huckleberry's restaurant by the way. I'll give them two thumbs up. I'll give them two thumbs up. I'll give them two thumbs up. >> Well, we'll want to hear about the FPGA >> Well, we'll want to hear about the FPGA >> Well, we'll want to hear about the FPGA differentiation or their so-called new differentiation or their so-called new differentiation or their so-called new [clears throat] stuff at the edge.

[clears throat] stuff at the edge. [clears throat] stuff at the edge. >> I hope your AMD event is epic. >> I hope your AMD event is epic. >> I hope your AMD event is epic. >> [laughter] >> MI455X, >> MI455X, y'all. y'all. y'all. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> All right, I'll see you guys. >> All right, I'll see you guys. >> All right, I'll see you guys. >> Later, man. >> Later, man. >> Later, man. >> Oh my gosh. Oh, you know some other bad >> Oh my gosh. Oh, you know some other bad >> Oh my gosh. Oh, you know some other bad news that happened this week? I heard it news that happened this week? I heard it news that happened this week? I heard it yesterday. Yesterday. It was not tech yesterday. Yesterday. It was not tech yesterday. Yesterday. It was not tech related but gosh. related but gosh. related but gosh. Did you hear about the FIFA news Did you hear about the FIFA news Did you hear about the FIFA news yesterday that leaked out? yesterday that leaked out? yesterday that leaked out? Like Like Like secretly, you know, what's whatever the secretly, you know, what's whatever the secretly, you know, what's whatever the guy's name is, the head of FIFA who guy's name is, the head of FIFA who guy's name is, the head of FIFA who >> Yeah. Infantino. >> Yeah. Infantino. >> Yeah. Infantino. >> the head of FIFA criminal. Yeah. >> the head of FIFA criminal. Yeah. >> the head of FIFA criminal. Yeah. >> Infantino. >> Infantino. >> Infantino. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Whatever his name is. Yeah, but I I've >> Whatever his name is. Yeah, but I I've >> Whatever his name is. Yeah, but I I've never heard anything good about him. But never heard anything good about him. But never heard anything good about him. But uh you know, even though YY loves to uh you know, even though YY loves to uh you know, even though YY loves to have him on stage with him at Lenovo have him on stage with him at Lenovo have him on stage with him at Lenovo events or whatever. Um events or whatever. Um events or whatever. Um but yeah, he basically that he was but yeah, he basically that he was but yeah, he basically that he was trying to bring uh trying to bring uh trying to bring uh they had a proposal almost to the finish they had a proposal almost to the finish they had a proposal almost to the finish line secretly behind the scenes line secretly behind the scenes line secretly behind the scenes of having selling chunks of FIFA to of having selling chunks of FIFA to of having selling chunks of FIFA to private investors.

private investors. private investors. Um and but in order to do it, he needed Um and but in order to do it, he needed Um and but in order to do it, he needed all uh whatever either all the countries all uh whatever either all the countries all uh whatever either all the countries to say yes or some proportion of them to say yes or some proportion of them to say yes or some proportion of them say yes. And he was going to give $20 say yes. And he was going to give $20 say yes. And he was going to give $20 million to each country to vote yes to million to each country to vote yes to million to each country to vote yes to allow private investors to become allow private investors to become allow private investors to become involved in FIFA. involved in FIFA. involved in FIFA. And so you hear that, but what I heard And so you hear that, but what I heard And so you hear that, but what I heard first was all of Europe first was all of Europe first was all of Europe all the countries in Europe said, "Hell all the countries in Europe said, "Hell all the countries in Europe said, "Hell no. We're no. We're no. We're They go we'll never We're not going to They go we'll never We're not going to They go we'll never We're not going to be involved in another FIFA event ever be involved in another FIFA event ever be involved in another FIFA event ever in the you know, we're we're all of in the you know, we're we're all of in the you know, we're we're all of Europe's going to pull out." Um which Europe's going to pull out." Um which Europe's going to pull out." Um which was kind of you know, was kind of you know, was kind of you know, FIFA would kind of die if it wasn't for FIFA would kind of die if it wasn't for FIFA would kind of die if it wasn't for all the European soccer teams all the European soccer teams all the European soccer teams for the most part. Um but it was it was for the most part. Um but it was it was for the most part. Um but it was it was horrible. And so yeah, and then I guess horrible. And so yeah, and then I guess horrible. And so yeah, and then I guess but there's another consortium that's but there's another consortium that's but there's another consortium that's over here in the Americas. I forgot the over here in the Americas. I forgot the over here in the Americas. I forgot the name. Um but anyway, they said, "Yeah, name. Um but anyway, they said, "Yeah, name. Um but anyway, they said, "Yeah, we're not going to play ball. We'll we're not going to play ball. We'll we're not going to play ball. We'll we'll we'll leave FIFA as well if you do we'll we'll leave FIFA as well if you do we'll we'll leave FIFA as well if you do this." this." this." You know, I've never heard anything good You know, I've never heard anything good You know, I've never heard anything good about that guy. about that guy. about that guy. Um you know, Um you know, Um you know, >> He's really terrible.

>> He's really terrible. >> He's really terrible. >> He's kind of slimy. I you know, I don't >> He's kind of slimy. I you know, I don't >> He's kind of slimy. I you know, I don't know. know. know. Anyway, that was some that was some Anyway, that was some that was some Anyway, that was some that was some negative negative negative You know, just to think that we just had You know, just to think that we just had You know, just to think that we just had this amazing summer here this amazing summer here this amazing summer here >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> in the you know, >> in the you know, >> in the you know, with FIFA and soccer it was so cool. And with FIFA and soccer it was so cool. And with FIFA and soccer it was so cool. And then to think that that could be the then to think that that could be the then to think that that could be the last one that ever happens last one that ever happens last one that ever happens because of this guy just trying to get because of this guy just trying to get because of this guy just trying to get more money. more money. more money. >> Okay, so now let's try to tie this back >> Okay, so now let's try to tie this back >> Okay, so now let's try to tie this back to IoT. to IoT. to IoT. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Or hairspray, or right. >> Or hairspray, or right. >> Or hairspray, or right. >> Yeah, or hairspray. >> Yeah, or hairspray. >> Yeah, or hairspray. >> I'd rather fly closer to hairspray. >> I'd rather fly closer to hairspray. >> I'd rather fly closer to hairspray. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, that that really really sucks. And >> Yeah, that that really really sucks. And >> Yeah, that that really really sucks. And yeah, this is this is a really tough one yeah, this is this is a really tough one yeah, this is this is a really tough one to tie back to IoT. I'm sure they had a to tie back to IoT. I'm sure they had a to tie back to IoT. I'm sure they had a watch in the in the stadiums to watch in the in the stadiums to watch in the in the stadiums to whether or not whether or not whether or not >> Absolutely, you know. >> Absolutely, you know. >> Absolutely, you know. >> You can tie it back to water. >> You can tie it back to water. >> You can tie it back to water. >> Right, but you know >> Right, but you know >> Right, but you know venues, all these things, you know, venues, all these things, you know, venues, all these things, you know, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, um trainers, training for the athletes. um trainers, training for the athletes. um trainers, training for the athletes. It's a big hit to the economy and and It's a big hit to the economy and and It's a big hit to the economy and and build-outs. For example, the Middle build-outs. For example, the Middle build-outs. For example, the Middle East, you know, in preparing for the East, you know, in preparing for the East, you know, in preparing for the next FIFA event, you know, there I can't next FIFA event, you know, there I can't next FIFA event, you know, there I can't remember how many stadiums they're going remember how many stadiums they're going remember how many stadiums they're going to be building. You know, obviously, you to be building. You know, obviously, you to be building. You know, obviously, you know, as you build new state-of-the-art know, as you build new state-of-the-art know, as you build new state-of-the-art buildings, they're all sensored up.

buildings, they're all sensored up. buildings, they're all sensored up. And everyone's trying to use so far as And everyone's trying to use so far as And everyone's trying to use so far as kind of the kind of the kind of the benchmark for you benchmark for you benchmark for you other stadiums these days. You know, other stadiums these days. You know, other stadiums these days. You know, Have you been to new you know, some of Have you been to new you know, some of Have you been to new you know, some of these new stadiums like the new these new stadiums like the new these new stadiums like the new crypto.com crypto.com crypto.com arena where there's almost there's arena where there's almost there's arena where there's almost there's things in every seat. It's things in every seat. It's things in every seat. It's It's a different It's a different, you It's a different It's a different, you It's a different It's a different, you know, I don't know if you're a purist of know, I don't know if you're a purist of know, I don't know if you're a purist of sitting out in the bleachers and not sitting out in the bleachers and not sitting out in the bleachers and not having any technology, or if you want having any technology, or if you want having any technology, or if you want all all all >> been to the sphere. >> been to the sphere. >> been to the sphere. >> Yeah, but you you you also have to, >> Yeah, but you you you also have to, >> Yeah, but you you you also have to, you know, and that's the other thing to you know, and that's the other thing to you know, and that's the other thing to consider is that a lot of some of these consider is that a lot of some of these consider is that a lot of some of these venues are multi-purpose, right? It's venues are multi-purpose, right? It's venues are multi-purpose, right? It's not just for the sport venue, but not just for the sport venue, but not just for the sport venue, but there's a lot of concerts and there's a lot of concerts and there's a lot of concerts and entertainment and other types of events entertainment and other types of events entertainment and other types of events that go through. that go through. that go through. And so when you look at like live And so when you look at like live And so when you look at like live performance, I mean, those types of performance, I mean, those types of performance, I mean, those types of features are really features are really features are really you know, probably things that you know, probably things that you know, probably things that you know, the tour would pay for, right? you know, the tour would pay for, right? you know, the tour would pay for, right? Especially if there's a level of Especially if there's a level of Especially if there's a level of consistency, so that they can provide a consistency, so that they can provide a consistency, so that they can provide a you know, an enhanced you know, an enhanced you know, an enhanced you you you you you you a spectator experience or a fan a spectator experience or a fan a spectator experience or a fan experience. So, you yeah.

experience. So, you yeah. experience. So, you yeah. >> been to a basketball game at crypto.com >> been to a basketball game at crypto.com >> been to a basketball game at crypto.com arena in LA? arena in LA? arena in LA? Formerly known as Staples Center? Formerly known as Staples Center? Formerly known as Staples Center? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. How did that happen? How did that happen? How did that happen? >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> Okay, anyway. But >> Okay, anyway. But >> Okay, anyway. But >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> yeah, um >> yeah, um >> yeah, um yeah, so yeah, I'm I wouldn't be yeah, so yeah, I'm I wouldn't be yeah, so yeah, I'm I wouldn't be surprised in certain venues. Maybe not surprised in certain venues. Maybe not surprised in certain venues. Maybe not baseball stadiums. I mean, baseball gets baseball stadiums. I mean, baseball gets baseball stadiums. I mean, baseball gets baseball stadiums usually get very baseball stadiums usually get very baseball stadiums usually get very heavily used by heavily used by heavily used by um um um well, they have so many games, right? well, they have so many games, right? well, they have so many games, right? They have like how many games? Like 80 They have like how many games? Like 80 They have like how many games? Like 80 XYZ XYZ XYZ >> 180? >> 180? >> 180? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> 180 >> 180 >> 180 >> Yeah, yeah. Some ridiculous number of uh >> Yeah, yeah. Some ridiculous number of uh >> Yeah, yeah. Some ridiculous number of uh games. So, they get well utilized and games. So, they get well utilized and games. So, they get well utilized and rarely do you see I mean, the only time rarely do you see I mean, the only time rarely do you see I mean, the only time I ever saw I ever saw I ever saw a um a um a um a concert in a baseball stadium was a concert in a baseball stadium was a concert in a baseball stadium was actually the Rolling Stones. actually the Rolling Stones. actually the Rolling Stones. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I saw the Foo Fighters at the >> I saw the Foo Fighters at the >> I saw the Foo Fighters at the I saw Foo Fighters at the baseball I saw Foo Fighters at the baseball I saw Foo Fighters at the baseball stadium in Seattle a couple of summers stadium in Seattle a couple of summers stadium in Seattle a couple of summers ago. ago. ago. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> I guess it's called T-Mobile Park these >> I guess it's called T-Mobile Park these >> I guess it's called T-Mobile Park these days.

days. days. Um Um Um Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But with you know, with video games, >> But with you know, with video games, >> But with you know, with video games, with all the data, you know, associated with all the data, you know, associated with all the data, you know, associated with us, we're with us, we're with us, we're you know, the expectations when you go you know, the expectations when you go you know, the expectations when you go to one of these events is that you have to one of these events is that you have to one of these events is that you have data on everything. You know, for FIFA, data on everything. You know, for FIFA, data on everything. You know, for FIFA, it was a connected ball. There was a it was a connected ball. There was a it was a connected ball. There was a sensor inside the ball and it would you sensor inside the ball and it would you sensor inside the ball and it would you know, they they could tell where the know, they they could tell where the know, they they could tell where the ball actually was and it helped with ball actually was and it helped with ball actually was and it helped with offsides. You go to a baseball game offsides. You go to a baseball game offsides. You go to a baseball game nowadays and they show the strike zone. nowadays and they show the strike zone. nowadays and they show the strike zone. And And And >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you you can do that replay. Before, >> And you you can do that replay. Before, >> And you you can do that replay. Before, you you would just kind of guess it. You you you would just kind of guess it. You you you would just kind of guess it. You know, who can watch a football game know, who can watch a football game know, who can watch a football game without you know, the those little lines without you know, the those little lines without you know, the those little lines that are drawn over the field? that are drawn over the field? that are drawn over the field? >> Yeah, and you know what? I you you're >> Yeah, and you know what? I you you're >> Yeah, and you know what? I you you're bringing up some really interesting bringing up some really interesting bringing up some really interesting stuff because this is like some shadow stuff because this is like some shadow stuff because this is like some shadow things that are happening and I cover things that are happening and I cover things that are happening and I cover media in my research that people have media in my research that people have media in my research that people have given less um attention to, but it's given less um attention to, but it's given less um attention to, but it's it's sort of the reinvention of live it's sort of the reinvention of live it's sort of the reinvention of live experiences, right? Uh and like for an experiences, right? Uh and like for an experiences, right? Uh and like for an and um and um and um like for instance, F1. Oh, jeez.

like for instance, F1. Oh, jeez. like for instance, F1. Oh, jeez. You know, it's incredible. How the media You know, it's incredible. How the media You know, it's incredible. How the media how the media formats and just how the media formats and just how the media formats and just level of innovation that's happening level of innovation that's happening level of innovation that's happening there is just like through the roof, you there is just like through the roof, you there is just like through the roof, you know? know? know? >> We're the title sponsor of the Indy >> We're the title sponsor of the Indy >> We're the title sponsor of the Indy series and you know, similar to it's not series and you know, similar to it's not series and you know, similar to it's not F1, but it's I mean, it's all F1, but it's I mean, it's all F1, but it's I mean, it's all everything's on par. But, you know, everything's on par. But, you know, everything's on par. But, you know, every car is censored up. So, as soon as every car is censored up. So, as soon as every car is censored up. So, as soon as for example, you press on the for example, you press on the for example, you press on the accelerator pedal, accelerator pedal, accelerator pedal, a signal goes to broadcast booth that a signal goes to broadcast booth that a signal goes to broadcast booth that this car is about to make a move. Put this car is about to make a move. Put this car is about to make a move. Put the camera on that. the camera on that. the camera on that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, >> I mean, >> I mean, and we helped some of the racers train, and we helped some of the racers train, and we helped some of the racers train, you know, with sensors and they you know, with sensors and they you know, with sensors and they said, "Wow, you know, some of the said, "Wow, you know, some of the said, "Wow, you know, some of the exercises I was doing, you know, I found exercises I was doing, you know, I found exercises I was doing, you know, I found I was useless for what I need to do, you I was useless for what I need to do, you I was useless for what I need to do, you know, because the G forces that you know, because the G forces that you know, because the G forces that you have." So, have." So, have." So, this technology is for good. I mean, it this technology is for good. I mean, it this technology is for good. I mean, it helps make the fan experience much helps make the fan experience much helps make the fan experience much better. better. better. And then one, you know, what's the limit And then one, you know, what's the limit And then one, you know, what's the limit though? You know, before next AI will be though? You know, before next AI will be though? You know, before next AI will be driving these cars and will that be fun driving these cars and will that be fun driving these cars and will that be fun to watch AI hit and hit athletes and to watch AI hit and hit athletes and to watch AI hit and hit athletes and others compete?

others compete? others compete? >> Yeah, cuz you know, it's like one of >> Yeah, cuz you know, it's like one of >> Yeah, cuz you know, it's like one of those those those the battle robots or whatever. You know, the battle robots or whatever. You know, the battle robots or whatever. You know, now you have these now you have these now you have these >> love that show. >> love that show. >> love that show. >> who like what is it? The UFC for robots >> who like what is it? The UFC for robots >> who like what is it? The UFC for robots in China? I mean, in China? I mean, in China? I mean, it's funny, but I don't think you can it's funny, but I don't think you can it's funny, but I don't think you can watch that stuff watch that stuff watch that stuff all day, right? Maybe it can become at all day, right? Maybe it can become at all day, right? Maybe it can become at some point like uh some point like uh some point like uh uh you know, e-gaming or e-games, right? uh you know, e-gaming or e-games, right? uh you know, e-gaming or e-games, right? But, I I But, I I But, I I I'm I think there's something about um a I'm I think there's something about um a I'm I think there's something about um a human accomplishment and being able to human accomplishment and being able to human accomplishment and being able to to relate to that. Uh versus is to relate to that. Uh versus is to relate to that. Uh versus is engineered accomplishment, right? engineered accomplishment, right? engineered accomplishment, right? >> Yeah, they had that Didn't they have >> Yeah, they had that Didn't they have >> Yeah, they had that Didn't they have that What was the name of that sports that What was the name of that sports that What was the name of that sports where you could all the people were on where you could all the people were on where you could all the people were on um enhancement drugs? >> BASEBALL? [laughter] >> BASEBALL? [laughter] UH FOOTBALL? UH FOOTBALL? UH FOOTBALL? >> THEY HAD YEAH, they had >> THEY HAD YEAH, they had >> THEY HAD YEAH, they had >> Oh, I remember on Saturday Night Live, >> Oh, I remember on Saturday Night Live, >> Oh, I remember on Saturday Night Live, they did something like the All Drug they did something like the All Drug they did something like the All Drug Olympics. Olympics. Olympics. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, they This is an actual thing.

>> Yeah, they This is an actual thing. >> Yeah, they This is an actual thing. Everyone could take, you know, Everyone could take, you know, Everyone could take, you know, supplements and have supplements and have supplements and have steroids. What was the name of them? steroids. What was the name of them? steroids. What was the name of them? >> Bodybuilding? >> Bodybuilding? >> Bodybuilding? I remember some bodybuilding thing on I remember some bodybuilding thing on I remember some bodybuilding thing on Saturday Night Live. He's like, "I'm on Saturday Night Live. He's like, "I'm on Saturday Night Live. He's like, "I'm on steroids or whatever." steroids or whatever." steroids or whatever." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> His arm falls off? >> His arm falls off? >> His arm falls off? >> Yes, his arm falls off and they go and >> Yes, his arm falls off and they go and >> Yes, his arm falls off and they go and he's on some he's on some he's on some >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> and some kind of fish paralyzer. >> and some kind of fish paralyzer. >> and some kind of fish paralyzer. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You're funny. Oh my god. >> You're funny. Oh my god. >> You're funny. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. >> It is called It is called the Enhanced >> It is called It is called the Enhanced >> It is called It is called the Enhanced Games. Games. Games. >> The Enhanced Games? [laughter] >> The Enhanced Games? [laughter] >> The Enhanced Games? [laughter] >> Enhanced Games, May 24. >> Enhanced Games, May 24. >> Enhanced Games, May 24. Um 42 athletes from 24 countries Um 42 athletes from 24 countries Um 42 athletes from 24 countries competing track, swimming, strength competing track, swimming, strength competing track, swimming, strength events without any anti-doping events without any anti-doping events without any anti-doping restrictions. restrictions. restrictions. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> What So, what is the league CALLED >> What So, what is the league CALLED >> What So, what is the league CALLED GEARED? GEARED? GEARED? >> [laughter] >> THAT'S AWESOME. >> THAT'S AWESOME. >> OH, JEEZ. >> OH, JEEZ. >> OH, JEEZ. >> But you know, with with the influx of >> But you know, with with the influx of >> But you know, with with the influx of technology and you know, you talk about technology and you know, you talk about technology and you know, you talk about Neuralink and all the things that will Neuralink and all the things that will Neuralink and all the things that will be implanted, be implanted, be implanted, you know, those that won't have it will you know, those that won't have it will you know, those that won't have it will be at an unfair advantaged in the be at an unfair advantaged in the be at an unfair advantaged in the future. future. future. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Right.

Right. Right. >> You know, so what >> You know, so what >> You know, so what And even if we regulate it in the West, And even if we regulate it in the West, And even if we regulate it in the West, other countries may not regulate it. So, other countries may not regulate it. So, other countries may not regulate it. So, are we at an unfair disadvantaged? are we at an unfair disadvantaged? are we at an unfair disadvantaged? >> Could be. Yeah. Maybe they'll have like >> Could be. Yeah. Maybe they'll have like >> Could be. Yeah. Maybe they'll have like the the Connie uh the the Connie uh the the Connie uh Nunan Singh Nunan Singh Nunan Singh uh uh uh uh you know, league uh you know, league uh you know, league at some point where everyone is at some point where everyone is at some point where everyone is genetically engineered. genetically engineered. genetically engineered. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> They're using CRISPR to >> They're using CRISPR to >> They're using CRISPR to >> Yeah, but it's like now, you know, you >> Yeah, but it's like now, you know, you >> Yeah, but it's like now, you know, you can take some tests and bring a can take some tests and bring a can take some tests and bring a calculator in calculator in calculator in to do do the test. Before, you know, you to do do the test. Before, you know, you to do do the test. Before, you know, you had to memorize everything or now you had to memorize everything or now you had to memorize everything or now you can bring your laptop as you know or or can bring your laptop as you know or or can bring your laptop as you know or or you know you know you know I take on open book tests. I take on open book tests. I take on open book tests. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, really what is you know what is the >> So, really what is you know what is the >> So, really what is you know what is the unfair advantage because if now we're unfair advantage because if now we're unfair advantage because if now we're using AI in everything that we do, we're using AI in everything that we do, we're using AI in everything that we do, we're using analytics to help give it you know using analytics to help give it you know using analytics to help give it you know information is that the baseline? information is that the baseline? information is that the baseline? >> Well, see that's the thing that's >> Well, see that's the thing that's >> Well, see that's the thing that's interesting about like F1 and G what is interesting about like F1 and G what is interesting about like F1 and G what is it? GP Sail, you know, or the thing that it? GP Sail, you know, or the thing that it? GP Sail, you know, or the thing that Oracle or Larry Ellison Oracle or Larry Ellison Oracle or Larry Ellison uh created, you know, where everything uh created, you know, where everything uh created, you know, where everything is standard.

is standard. is standard. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you can you have to use standard >> And you can you have to use standard >> And you can you have to use standard designs or specs for all the boats designs or specs for all the boats designs or specs for all the boats uh in GP Sail and same with F1, you uh in GP Sail and same with F1, you uh in GP Sail and same with F1, you know? And so it it's all about taking know? And so it it's all about taking know? And so it it's all about taking that it's like 3GPP, you know, you can that it's like 3GPP, you know, you can that it's like 3GPP, you know, you can maybe tweak how you implement stuff maybe tweak how you implement stuff maybe tweak how you implement stuff slightly for energy engineering slightly for energy engineering slightly for energy engineering advantage, [laughter] but you have to advantage, [laughter] but you have to advantage, [laughter] but you have to stick with the tech spec, right? stick with the tech spec, right? stick with the tech spec, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> in our day-to-day lives, you know, >> in our day-to-day lives, you know, >> in our day-to-day lives, you know, try driving a car without a backup try driving a car without a backup try driving a car without a backup camera, without sonars, without GPS, camera, without sonars, without GPS, camera, without sonars, without GPS, without blind spot detection and without blind spot detection and without blind spot detection and you know, you know, you know, it's it's [snorts] going to continue to it's it's [snorts] going to continue to it's it's [snorts] going to continue to advance and advance to you know the advance and advance to you know the advance and advance to you know the level three self-autonomous driving. level three self-autonomous driving. level three self-autonomous driving. Um Um Um >> That's a good point. >> That's a good point. >> That's a good point. >> You know how like there's these >> You know how like there's these >> You know how like there's these non-negotiables when you're looking at a non-negotiables when you're looking at a non-negotiables when you're looking at a car? It's like it has to have this car? It's like it has to have this car? It's like it has to have this feature or I'm not even feature or I'm not even feature or I'm not even Like my wife when she was looking for a Like my wife when she was looking for a Like my wife when she was looking for a new car, it's like it has to have that new car, it's like it has to have that new car, it's like it has to have that 360 backup deal where I can see around 360 backup deal where I can see around 360 backup deal where I can see around my car or I'm not I'm not interested, my car or I'm not I'm not interested, my car or I'm not I'm not interested, you know?

you know? you know? >> Yeah. And and you know, the cars >> Yeah. And and you know, the cars >> Yeah. And and you know, the cars parallel park themselves now, so do you parallel park themselves now, so do you parallel park themselves now, so do you know, I think a lot drivers at they know, I think a lot drivers at they know, I think a lot drivers at they don't even bother teaching the kids. don't even bother teaching the kids. don't even bother teaching the kids. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That was always the hardest part of the >> That was always the hardest part of the >> That was always the hardest part of the driver's test was parallel parking. driver's test was parallel parking. driver's test was parallel parking. >> Yeah, but then again, >> Yeah, but then again, >> Yeah, but then again, if you didn't grow up in the city. if you didn't grow up in the city. if you didn't grow up in the city. >> Yeah, but then wait until you rent a >> Yeah, but then wait until you rent a >> Yeah, but then wait until you rent a stick shift car in Europe. stick shift car in Europe. stick shift car in Europe. You know, like a Fiat, the tiny little You know, like a Fiat, the tiny little You know, like a Fiat, the tiny little Fiat that's like totally old school and Fiat that's like totally old school and Fiat that's like totally old school and you have to drive through like the you have to drive through like the you have to drive through like the streets of Toledo. streets of Toledo. streets of Toledo. >> That's how you're going to That's how >> That's how you're going to That's how >> That's how you're going to That's how we're like [laughter] we're like [laughter] we're like [laughter] >> They're not even streets. >> They're not even streets. >> They're not even streets. >> That's how we're like That's how we're >> That's how we're like That's how we're >> That's how we're like That's how we're safe from young people today is they safe from young people today is they safe from young people today is they don't know how to drive a stick. don't know how to drive a stick. don't know how to drive a stick. >> So. >> So. >> So. >> They don't drive. Maybe that's why it's >> They don't drive. Maybe that's why it's >> They don't drive. Maybe that's why it's really safe. really safe. really safe. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> They don't I mean, you don't learn the >> They don't I mean, you don't learn the >> They don't I mean, you don't learn the basics, right? You You're You're basics, right? You You're You're basics, right? You You're You're tech savvy. tech savvy. tech savvy. >> I love dumb criminal stories like when >> I love dumb criminal stories like when >> I love dumb criminal stories like when someone tries to steal a car and it's a someone tries to steal a car and it's a someone tries to steal a car and it's a stick shift and they're like, "I don't stick shift and they're like, "I don't stick shift and they're like, "I don't know what to do WITH THIS THING." know what to do WITH THIS THING." know what to do WITH THIS THING." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I I LOVE STICK SHIFT, MAN. >> I I LOVE STICK SHIFT, MAN. I really love driving stick uh I really love driving stick uh I really love driving stick uh stick shift stick shift stick shift and um and um and um >> You feel like you're more part of the >> You feel like you're more part of the >> You feel like you're more part of the car, you know?

car, you know? car, you know? >> You drive I I mean, yeah. >> You drive I I mean, yeah. >> You drive I I mean, yeah. >> Unless you're in stop and go traffic. >> Unless you're in stop and go traffic. >> Unless you're in stop and go traffic. >> That sucks. You're right. >> That sucks. You're right. >> That sucks. You're right. That does suck. That does suck. That does suck. >> That does kind of suck. >> That does kind of suck. >> That does kind of suck. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. >> Otherwise, it's awesome. It's >> Otherwise, it's awesome. It's >> Otherwise, it's awesome. It's >> Or yeah, or a very steep hill like you >> Or yeah, or a very steep hill like you >> Or yeah, or a very steep hill like you would have in Seattle. would have in Seattle. would have in Seattle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah, especially if you have to parallel >> Yeah, especially if you have to parallel >> Yeah, especially if you have to parallel park. park. park. >> Yes. [laughter] >> Yes. [laughter] >> Yes. [laughter] >> In San Francisco like you're saying. >> In San Francisco like you're saying. >> In San Francisco like you're saying. What's that street that's like 40 What's that street that's like 40 What's that street that's like 40 >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> 40 grade or whatever. >> 40 grade or whatever. >> 40 grade or whatever. >> I have memories of >> I have memories of >> I have memories of having a stick shift in the '90s in having a stick shift in the '90s in having a stick shift in the '90s in Seattle and downtown. You're right. You Seattle and downtown. You're right. You Seattle and downtown. You're right. You got some of these got some of these got some of these and you're at a stop light behind people and you're at a stop light behind people and you're at a stop light behind people and you've got your foot on the brake and you've got your foot on the brake and you've got your foot on the brake and the clutch at the same time and then and the clutch at the same time and then and the clutch at the same time and then you're going I mean, you're going I mean, you're going I mean, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> cuz you're going to slide backwards, >> cuz you're going to slide backwards, >> cuz you're going to slide backwards, right? Into the car behind you and yeah, right? Into the car behind you and yeah, right? Into the car behind you and yeah, it was scary. it was scary. it was scary. Um This has been fun. I have to drop. Um This has been fun. I have to drop. Um This has been fun. I have to drop. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> Yeah. Okay. We're going to wrap up. So, >> Yeah. Okay. We're going to wrap up. So, >> Yeah. Okay. We're going to wrap up. So, hey everyone, thanks for joining. Um I hey everyone, thanks for joining. Um I hey everyone, thanks for joining. Um I hope you enjoyed the random conversation hope you enjoyed the random conversation hope you enjoyed the random conversation here. Um here. Um here. Um uh Devin is the bravest man in the uh Devin is the bravest man in the uh Devin is the bravest man in the world. Um I can't believe world. Um I can't believe world. Um I can't believe I'll be back for the beating. Uh but uh I'll be back for the beating. Uh but uh I'll be back for the beating. Uh but uh no, it's great having you on again. Um no, it's great having you on again. Um no, it's great having you on again. Um and um yeah, you you are regular now. I and um yeah, you you are regular now. I and um yeah, you you are regular now. I mean, if you make it past three, jeez, mean, if you make it past three, jeez, mean, if you make it past three, jeez, you're you're you're >> Yeah, it's true.

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