IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 295 - Robotic Chihuahuas (The CES 2026 Episode)

Hello. Hello everybody. And some kind of Hello. Hello everybody. And some kind of agent here joining us. That is creepy. agent here joining us. That is creepy. agent here joining us. That is creepy. Let's all get us. Let's all get us. Let's all get us. >> Yes. Well, you see you you saw my >> Yes. Well, you see you you saw my >> Yes. Well, you see you you saw my prediction on LinkedIn this year. prediction on LinkedIn this year. prediction on LinkedIn this year. >> That guy for this year just harm AI. >> That guy for this year just harm AI. >> That guy for this year just harm AI. Harm more AI is my objective this year. Harm more AI is my objective this year. Harm more AI is my objective this year. Harming AI. Harming AI. Harming AI. >> Harming AI is your objective. >> Harming AI is your objective. >> Harming AI is your objective. >> Okay. All right. So, that sounds really >> Okay. All right. So, that sounds really >> Okay. All right. So, that sounds really violent. The AI, you might break its leg violent. The AI, you might break its leg violent. The AI, you might break its leg or something like that or hurt its or something like that or hurt its or something like that or hurt its feelings, you know. feelings, you know. feelings, you know. >> Does it have legs? >> Does it have legs? >> Does it have legs? >> I don't know. Sometimes, >> I don't know. Sometimes, >> I don't know. Sometimes, >> sometimes maybe give it legs. >> sometimes maybe give it legs. >> sometimes maybe give it legs. >> We can give it legs. I remember AI >> We can give it legs. I remember AI >> We can give it legs. I remember AI struggling with legs in the past along struggling with legs in the past along struggling with legs in the past along with fingers. with fingers. with fingers. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> it still does. >> it still does. >> it still does. >> Okay. All right. Yes. So, welcome to >> Okay. All right. Yes. So, welcome to >> Okay. All right. Yes. So, welcome to Coffee Talk, everyone. Yes, Coffee Talk, everyone. Yes, Coffee Talk, everyone. Yes, >> it's yet another CES edition. Just in >> it's yet another CES edition. Just in >> it's yet another CES edition. Just in case you haven't seen, clearly Pete is case you haven't seen, clearly Pete is case you haven't seen, clearly Pete is in a hotel in Las Vegas. It looks in a hotel in Las Vegas. It looks in a hotel in Las Vegas. It looks >> That's not a fake background. I didn't >> That's not a fake background. I didn't >> That's not a fake background. I didn't use my hotel in Las Vegas background.

use my hotel in Las Vegas background. use my hotel in Las Vegas background. Yes. Unlike Bill with his fake Yes. Unlike Bill with his fake Yes. Unlike Bill with his fake background in his skyscraper somewhere. background in his skyscraper somewhere. background in his skyscraper somewhere. >> Hey, hey, hey, hey. That that is >> Hey, hey, hey, hey. That that is >> Hey, hey, hey, hey. That that is real. real. real. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> That's how I'm living. >> That's how I'm living. >> That's how I'm living. >> That's how you're living. >> That's how you're living. >> That's how you're living. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. That's the look that you normally >> Yes. That's the look that you normally >> Yes. That's the look that you normally have in Dripping Springs, Texas. have in Dripping Springs, Texas. have in Dripping Springs, Texas. >> Well, I mean, you know, if you get a >> Well, I mean, you know, if you get a >> Well, I mean, you know, if you get a place that looks like that, you really place that looks like that, you really place that looks like that, you really can't afford to put furniture in it. can't afford to put furniture in it. can't afford to put furniture in it. >> Good point. Good point. Yeah. Well, in >> Good point. Good point. Yeah. Well, in >> Good point. Good point. Yeah. Well, in fact, it's a giant screen that is off fact, it's a giant screen that is off fact, it's a giant screen that is off right now. And when you turn it on, you right now. And when you turn it on, you right now. And when you turn it on, you see all these bubbles with all those IoT see all these bubbles with all those IoT see all these bubbles with all those IoT information on top of the buildings. information on top of the buildings. information on top of the buildings. >> That's that is his command control. >> That's that is his command control. >> That's that is his command control. Actually, command control center. I got Actually, command control center. I got Actually, command control center. I got you, Bill. I got you. you, Bill. I got you. you, Bill. I got you. >> Yeah, I'm exposed now. >> Yeah, I'm exposed now. >> Yeah, I'm exposed now. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Yeah, you are big time. Wow. Yeah. So, >> Yeah, you are big time. Wow. Yeah. So, >> Yeah, you are big time. Wow. Yeah. So, anyway, it's been a great week this anyway, it's been a great week this anyway, it's been a great week this week. Uh, all so many of our IoT Coffee week. Uh, all so many of our IoT Coffee week. Uh, all so many of our IoT Coffee Talk mates have been in Las Vegas for Talk mates have been in Las Vegas for Talk mates have been in Las Vegas for CES for lots of events, especially CES for lots of events, especially CES for lots of events, especially Pete's super awesome Edge AI dinner.

Pete's super awesome Edge AI dinner. Pete's super awesome Edge AI dinner. Wow. Wow. That was amazing. That was Wow. Wow. That was amazing. That was Wow. Wow. That was amazing. That was awful. awful. awful. >> That was a lot of fun. Yeah, we did. We >> That was a lot of fun. Yeah, we did. We >> That was a lot of fun. Yeah, we did. We had uh about 10 folks from kind of the had uh about 10 folks from kind of the had uh about 10 folks from kind of the analyst community and about 10 folks analyst community and about 10 folks analyst community and about 10 folks from the edgei kind of technology from the edgei kind of technology from the edgei kind of technology leadership community and we had a nice leadership community and we had a nice leadership community and we had a nice dinner and talked about what's working, dinner and talked about what's working, dinner and talked about what's working, what's not working, what should be what's not working, what should be what's not working, what should be working. working. working. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And how to work together mostly. So >> And how to work together mostly. So >> And how to work together mostly. So >> that's good. I like the idea of having >> that's good. I like the idea of having >> that's good. I like the idea of having prompts that you did. prompts that you did. prompts that you did. >> Yes. We had those we prompts throughout >> Yes. We had those we prompts throughout >> Yes. We had those we prompts throughout the evening. I think that I think it's the evening. I think that I think it's the evening. I think that I think it's helpful, you know. helpful, you know. helpful, you know. >> Yeah. No, it's good. It kind of keeps >> Yeah. No, it's good. It kind of keeps >> Yeah. No, it's good. It kind of keeps the conversation going and gives you the conversation going and gives you the conversation going and gives you >> So, this is the science the machines are >> So, this is the science the machines are >> So, this is the science the machines are taking over. taking over. taking over. >> If we are adjusting the way we interact >> If we are adjusting the way we interact >> If we are adjusting the way we interact socially to the way we interact with AI socially to the way we interact with AI socially to the way we interact with AI >> prompts. Yeah, that's right. Well, I >> prompts. Yeah, that's right. Well, I >> prompts. Yeah, that's right. Well, I didn't mean AI prompts. These were just didn't mean AI prompts. These were just didn't mean AI prompts. These were just like a question for the group, you know. like a question for the group, you know. like a question for the group, you know. >> Yeah. The reason I'm mentioning that >> Yeah. The reason I'm mentioning that >> Yeah. The reason I'm mentioning that because when people are going to listen because when people are going to listen because when people are going to listen to that and hear prompts, they're going to that and hear prompts, they're going to that and hear prompts, they're going to think AI. to think AI. to think AI. >> That's true. Yeah. No, I'm glad I >> That's true. Yeah. No, I'm glad I >> That's true. Yeah. No, I'm glad I clarified.

clarified. clarified. >> This >> This >> This >> I meant old school prompt. >> I meant old school prompt. >> I meant old school prompt. >> Old school, >> Old school, >> Old school, >> not prompt engineering prompt, not >> not prompt engineering prompt, not >> not prompt engineering prompt, not prompt engineering. prompt engineering. prompt engineering. >> It's called conver con conversion >> It's called conver con conversion >> It's called conver con conversion conversion uh conversation starters. conversion uh conversation starters. conversion uh conversation starters. >> Conversation starters. >> Conversation starters. >> Conversation starters. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's >> Yeah. Yeah, that's >> Yeah. Yeah, that's >> that's better. That's better. And then >> that's better. That's better. And then >> that's better. That's better. And then Rob Rob and uh and Rajes were our Rob Rob and uh and Rajes were our Rob Rob and uh and Rajes were our somales and uh provided some good uh somales and uh provided some good uh somales and uh provided some good uh beverages. Yeah, that was nice going beverages. Yeah, that was nice going beverages. Yeah, that was nice going back there to their their wine seller back there to their their wine seller back there to their their wine seller and and and >> pretty comprehensive, huh? >> pretty comprehensive, huh? >> pretty comprehensive, huh? >> It was very comprehensive. It could have >> It was very comprehensive. It could have >> It was very comprehensive. It could have gotten really expensive depending on gotten really expensive depending on gotten really expensive depending on >> Yeah. No, they got some they got some >> Yeah. No, they got some they got some >> Yeah. No, they got some they got some monsters back there. monsters back there. monsters back there. >> They do have some monsters back there. >> They do have some monsters back there. >> They do have some monsters back there. I'm like, whoa, whoa. Why don't we steer I'm like, whoa, whoa. Why don't we steer I'm like, whoa, whoa. Why don't we steer away from this and kind of away from this and kind of away from this and kind of >> Yeah. Like, >> Yeah. Like, >> Yeah. Like, >> as I told Rob, I said, you know, we are >> as I told Rob, I said, you know, we are >> as I told Rob, I said, you know, we are a nonprofit, educational nonprofit, so a nonprofit, educational nonprofit, so a nonprofit, educational nonprofit, so let's not uh let's not uh let's not uh >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> break the bank. But no, it was good. >> break the bank. But no, it was good. >> break the bank. But no, it was good. It's good to get everyone together and I It's good to get everyone together and I It's good to get everyone together and I think there was a lot of those think there was a lot of those think there was a lot of those conversations this week, you know, where conversations this week, you know, where conversations this week, you know, where people kind of took stock of what looked people kind of took stock of what looked people kind of took stock of what looked different from last year and what the different from last year and what the different from last year and what the tra trajectory looks like, right? I tra trajectory looks like, right? I tra trajectory looks like, right? I think that was think that was think that was >> that's what I think this show is good >> that's what I think this show is good >> that's what I think this show is good for. It's a good barometer. Maybe that's for. It's a good barometer. Maybe that's for. It's a good barometer. Maybe that's the right term. Technology barometer.

the right term. Technology barometer. the right term. Technology barometer. What's working, what's not working, What's working, what's not working, What's working, what's not working, >> you know, who's blowing smoke, who's >> you know, who's blowing smoke, who's >> you know, who's blowing smoke, who's shipping real stuff. Um, shipping real stuff. Um, shipping real stuff. Um, >> yeah. Yeah. So, so what are those three >> yeah. Yeah. So, so what are those three >> yeah. Yeah. So, so what are those three top different from last year? top different from last year? top different from last year? from last year. Well, so I'll start, but from last year. Well, so I'll start, but from last year. Well, so I'll start, but I think what I heard pretty consistently I think what I heard pretty consistently I think what I heard pretty consistently was was was I think that everyone was saying they I think that everyone was saying they I think that everyone was saying they had much better business conversations had much better business conversations had much better business conversations this year with projects. Um, and I think this year with projects. Um, and I think this year with projects. Um, and I think that was because of two things. One, the that was because of two things. One, the that was because of two things. One, the technology is more mature, so it's more technology is more mature, so it's more technology is more mature, so it's more capable. Um, it's a little less science capable. Um, it's a little less science capable. Um, it's a little less science fair. And then also, uh, the customers fair. And then also, uh, the customers fair. And then also, uh, the customers are just more educated. So, you know, are just more educated. So, you know, are just more educated. So, you know, they spent a year kind of figuring out they spent a year kind of figuring out they spent a year kind of figuring out what is this stuff and how can it help what is this stuff and how can it help what is this stuff and how can it help me? And so, I think that has accelerated me? And so, I think that has accelerated me? And so, I think that has accelerated a lot of the business conversations. Um, a lot of the business conversations. Um, a lot of the business conversations. Um, but at the same time, I think the other but at the same time, I think the other but at the same time, I think the other big thing, and I think we mentioned this big thing, and I think we mentioned this big thing, and I think we mentioned this the night of the dinner, too, is like the night of the dinner, too, is like the night of the dinner, too, is like complexity is on the rise. complexity is on the rise. complexity is on the rise. So, you know, it's like now it's like So, you know, it's like now it's like So, you know, it's like now it's like data sets and models and training and data sets and models and training and data sets and models and training and what about agentic and how does this what about agentic and how does this what about agentic and how does this work with that and orchestration and work with that and orchestration and work with that and orchestration and blah blah blah blah. So as we add all blah blah blah blah. So as we add all blah blah blah blah. So as we add all these new capabilities um and these new capabilities um and these new capabilities um and possibilities, things can get pretty possibilities, things can get pretty possibilities, things can get pretty complicated complicated complicated >> and that could slow things down. So um >> and that could slow things down. So um >> and that could slow things down. So um >> so there sort of both two sides of the >> so there sort of both two sides of the >> so there sort of both two sides of the coin. People are getting more educated, coin. People are getting more educated, coin. People are getting more educated, technolog is more mature, but things are technolog is more mature, but things are technolog is more mature, but things are getting a little more complicated and so getting a little more complicated and so getting a little more complicated and so we have to be careful we don't uh we have to be careful we don't uh we have to be careful we don't uh >> confuse ourselves to death.

>> confuse ourselves to death. >> confuse ourselves to death. >> But all that complexity >> But all that complexity >> But all that complexity >> feel and sound more a lot a lot like you >> feel and sound more a lot a lot like you >> feel and sound more a lot a lot like you know the more things change the more know the more things change the more know the more things change the more they stay the same. I mean if if you they stay the same. I mean if if you they stay the same. I mean if if you know the foundation is somewhat laid now know the foundation is somewhat laid now know the foundation is somewhat laid now so everyone kind of understands that so everyone kind of understands that so everyone kind of understands that piece of it but then there's now well piece of it but then there's now well piece of it but then there's now well let's bring this in and let's bring that let's bring this in and let's bring that let's bring this in and let's bring that in. Sounds to me like a interoperability in. Sounds to me like a interoperability in. Sounds to me like a interoperability question will come into play. question will come into play. question will come into play. >> Yeah I don't think it's I don't think >> Yeah I don't think it's I don't think >> Yeah I don't think it's I don't think it's a new pattern. I think it's a it's a new pattern. I think it's a it's a new pattern. I think it's a pattern we always see with tech right pattern we always see with tech right pattern we always see with tech right you kind of you kind of you kind of >> establish the baseline and then there's >> establish the baseline and then there's >> establish the baseline and then there's all these new ideas that sort of are I all these new ideas that sort of are I all these new ideas that sort of are I wouldn't say halfbaked but are fresh wouldn't say halfbaked but are fresh wouldn't say halfbaked but are fresh freshly baked. freshly baked. freshly baked. >> Freshly baked. >> Freshly baked. >> Freshly baked. >> Yeah. and uh people start grasping at >> Yeah. and uh people start grasping at >> Yeah. and uh people start grasping at them and trying to do them and then them and trying to do them and then them and trying to do them and then things get weird and then that'll settle things get weird and then that'll settle things get weird and then that'll settle down too. So yeah, that'll become part down too. So yeah, that'll become part down too. So yeah, that'll become part of the foundation at some point when it of the foundation at some point when it of the foundation at some point when it settles. So I think I think we're in settles. So I think I think we're in settles. So I think I think we're in that mode and I I think especially like that mode and I I think especially like that mode and I I think especially like the term hybrid AI came up a lot, the term hybrid AI came up a lot, the term hybrid AI came up a lot, >> you know, about using edge and cloud >> you know, about using edge and cloud >> you know, about using edge and cloud together and and uh so it's cool. I mean together and and uh so it's cool. I mean together and and uh so it's cool. I mean it's, you know, there's obviously a lot it's, you know, there's obviously a lot it's, you know, there's obviously a lot more to do, a lot more work to do, but more to do, a lot more work to do, but more to do, a lot more work to do, but um but there were some really, you know, um but there were some really, you know, um but there were some really, you know, solid products out there. um that we saw solid products out there. um that we saw solid products out there. um that we saw at least and I saw a lot of a lot of at least and I saw a lot of a lot of at least and I saw a lot of a lot of autonomous uh vehicle stuff. I saw I autonomous uh vehicle stuff. I saw I autonomous uh vehicle stuff. I saw I think that's definitely think that's definitely think that's definitely >> I think Whimo had a great booth. A >> I think Whimo had a great booth. A >> I think Whimo had a great booth. A couple cool new vehicles that totally couple cool new vehicles that totally couple cool new vehicles that totally science fair which was nice.

science fair which was nice. science fair which was nice. >> Was it was it causing traffic problem >> Was it was it causing traffic problem >> Was it was it causing traffic problem during during during >> Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was just bumping >> Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was just bumping >> Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was just bumping into each other around the booth, you into each other around the booth, you into each other around the booth, you know, randomly. know, randomly. know, randomly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Kind of in one corner. They were all >> Kind of in one corner. They were all >> Kind of in one corner. They were all just bumping into each other. just bumping into each other. just bumping into each other. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. But no, it was good to see >> Right. But no, it was good to see >> Right. But no, it was good to see different vehicles being used by Whimo different vehicles being used by Whimo different vehicles being used by Whimo than the little side bar that they than the little side bar that they than the little side bar that they always use. always use. always use. >> Not like more normal looking, I guess. >> Not like more normal looking, I guess. >> Not like more normal looking, I guess. Also, they have the zuks around here. Also, they have the zuks around here. Also, they have the zuks around here. So, the uh So, the uh So, the uh >> these little, you know, pod rectangular >> these little, you know, pod rectangular >> these little, you know, pod rectangular pod things, although I wasn't able to pod things, although I wasn't able to pod things, although I wasn't able to take a zuks. I kept trying to find one take a zuks. I kept trying to find one take a zuks. I kept trying to find one and you have to go to a special pickup and you have to go to a special pickup and you have to go to a special pickup spot and the pickup spots tended to be spot and the pickup spots tended to be spot and the pickup spots tended to be kind of out there a little bit. So, I kind of out there a little bit. So, I kind of out there a little bit. So, I was like, you feel like hoofing it out was like, you feel like hoofing it out was like, you feel like hoofing it out there to there to there to >> take zuks to go somewhere else. So, so >> take zuks to go somewhere else. So, so >> take zuks to go somewhere else. So, so that was I was a little disappointed that was I was a little disappointed that was I was a little disappointed that they couldn't there weren't more that they couldn't there weren't more that they couldn't there weren't more places to to catch them, but I did see places to to catch them, but I did see places to to catch them, but I did see quite a few floating around. Um, so I quite a few floating around. Um, so I quite a few floating around. Um, so I guess that was good good autonomous guess that was good good autonomous guess that was good good autonomous thing. I I met a guy who was making um thing. I I met a guy who was making um thing. I I met a guy who was making um was in the golf cart business that was was in the golf cart business that was was in the golf cart business that was building out some autonomous golf carts, building out some autonomous golf carts, building out some autonomous golf carts, >> which I thought was a great use case. >> which I thought was a great use case. >> which I thought was a great use case. You know, you kind of you don't want to You know, you kind of you don't want to You know, you kind of you don't want to be driving those things around when be driving those things around when be driving those things around when you're not not able to. You know what I you're not not able to. You know what I you're not not able to. You know what I mean? So, uh, mean? So, uh, mean? So, uh, >> are you talking about drunk golfers?

>> are you talking about drunk golfers? >> are you talking about drunk golfers? >> I'm just saying. Seems like >> I'm just saying. Seems like >> I'm just saying. Seems like >> sounds like a perfect storm of like >> sounds like a perfect storm of like >> sounds like a perfect storm of like demand and supply, you know? demand and supply, you know? demand and supply, you know? >> Yeah. Let's Let's go deep on that. Let's >> Yeah. Let's Let's go deep on that. Let's >> Yeah. Let's Let's go deep on that. Let's double click on the autonomous golf double click on the autonomous golf double click on the autonomous golf cart. What is the Is it following your cart. What is the Is it following your cart. What is the Is it following your golf ball? Would you have a sensor or golf ball? Would you have a sensor or golf ball? Would you have a sensor or something in the golf ball? And so, it's something in the golf ball? And so, it's something in the golf ball? And so, it's kind of going which you for your next kind of going which you for your next kind of going which you for your next shot. shot. shot. >> Yeah. No, it's a good question. I mean, >> Yeah. No, it's a good question. I mean, >> Yeah. No, it's a good question. I mean, I think it's sort of like maybe I think it's sort of like maybe I think it's sort of like maybe programmed to just follow the path to programmed to just follow the path to programmed to just follow the path to the next ball. the next ball. the next ball. >> Yeah. where you don't have to accelerate >> Yeah. where you don't have to accelerate >> Yeah. where you don't have to accelerate or steer. But um or steer. But um or steer. But um >> I mean obviously Top Golf has taught us >> I mean obviously Top Golf has taught us >> I mean obviously Top Golf has taught us that we can have high-tech golf balls that we can have high-tech golf balls that we can have high-tech golf balls that we can track and watch their that we can track and watch their that we can track and watch their trajectory and where they land. So trajectory and where they land. So trajectory and where they land. So obviously obviously obviously >> but I don't think you want the golf cart >> but I don't think you want the golf cart >> but I don't think you want the golf cart to just follow the ball cuz then it's to just follow the ball cuz then it's to just follow the ball cuz then it's going to go drive into the woods and you going to go drive into the woods and you going to go drive into the woods and you know. know. know. >> Yeah. Right. But that would be kind of >> Yeah. Right. But that would be kind of >> Yeah. Right. But that would be kind of the MVP of the MVP of the MVP of >> right into right into the lake. You'll >> right into right into the lake. You'll >> right into right into the lake. You'll follow it right into follow it right into follow it right into >> Actually they have that at Corales Golf >> Actually they have that at Corales Golf >> Actually they have that at Corales Golf Course. They have it at Corales Golf Course. They have it at Corales Golf Course. They have it at Corales Golf Course in the Dominican Republic in Course in the Dominican Republic in Course in the Dominican Republic in Puntaana. Puntaana. Puntaana. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. So the it's literally it literally >> Yeah. So the it's literally it literally >> Yeah. So the it's literally it literally tracks the path, you know, like on the tracks the path, you know, like on the tracks the path, you know, like on the side. So you're not driving on the side. So you're not driving on the side. So you're not driving on the grass. You're literally driving, you grass. You're literally driving, you grass. You're literally driving, you know, you you follow it follows the it's know, you you follow it follows the it's know, you you follow it follows the it's mapped pretty well. Kind of like a big mapped pretty well. Kind of like a big mapped pretty well. Kind of like a big giant Roomba, giant Roomba, giant Roomba, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Yeah. I think if you put the like the >> Yeah. I think if you put the like the >> Yeah. I think if you put the like the sensors in there and kind of the guide sensors in there and kind of the guide sensors in there and kind of the guide wires and all that stuff, right, that's wires and all that stuff, right, that's wires and all that stuff, right, that's probably how it works. probably how it works. probably how it works. >> And does anytime anyone says Roomba, do >> And does anytime anyone says Roomba, do >> And does anytime anyone says Roomba, do we have to like do a moment of silence we have to like do a moment of silence we have to like do a moment of silence or kind of like rest in peace Roomba? or kind of like rest in peace Roomba? or kind of like rest in peace Roomba? You know, You know, You know, >> that's right. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> They didn't work. >> They didn't work. >> They didn't work. >> Tons of But ironically, tons of vacuum >> Tons of But ironically, tons of vacuum >> Tons of But ironically, tons of vacuum cleaners. cleaners. cleaners. >> The big thing for vacuum cleaners at the >> The big thing for vacuum cleaners at the >> The big thing for vacuum cleaners at the show was climbing the stairs. show was climbing the stairs. show was climbing the stairs. >> That's the new thing. Lots of vacuums >> That's the new thing. Lots of vacuums >> That's the new thing. Lots of vacuums climbing stairs, vacuuming stairs as climbing stairs, vacuuming stairs as climbing stairs, vacuuming stairs as they're climbing the stairs. they're climbing the stairs. they're climbing the stairs. Um, of course you could just buy two Um, of course you could just buy two Um, of course you could just buy two vacuums. I mean, vacuums. I mean, vacuums. I mean, >> oh, >> oh, >> oh, >> cuz it takes like, you know, 15 minutes >> cuz it takes like, you know, 15 minutes >> cuz it takes like, you know, 15 minutes to climb up like one stair. So, I was to climb up like one stair. So, I was to climb up like one stair. So, I was like, like, like, >> you need >> you need >> you need >> And it runs out of battery like halfway >> And it runs out of battery like halfway >> And it runs out of battery like halfway up. You know, up. You know, up. You know, >> you need you need three. One for each >> you need you need three. One for each >> you need you need three. One for each floor and one for the stair. floor and one for the stair. floor and one for the stair. >> One for the stair. Yeah, maybe. >> One for the stair. Yeah, maybe. >> One for the stair. Yeah, maybe. >> Is anybody on this show old enough to >> Is anybody on this show old enough to >> Is anybody on this show old enough to remember the slinky ads where the slinky remember the slinky ads where the slinky remember the slinky ads where the slinky is going down the stairs and everything? is going down the stairs and everything? is going down the stairs and everything? Maybe they should try that. Maybe they should try that. Maybe they should try that. >> Maybe they should try that. >> Maybe they should try that. >> Maybe they should try that. >> So So it looks like we're at the peak of >> So So it looks like we're at the peak of >> So So it looks like we're at the peak of society because we're talking about society because we're talking about society because we're talking about autonomous golf carts and self vacuuming autonomous golf carts and self vacuuming autonomous golf carts and self vacuuming homes. So homes. So homes. So >> isn't that ironic?

>> isn't that ironic? >> isn't that ironic? >> It's all It's all about the >> It's all It's all about the >> It's all It's all about the >> I mean the golf cart thing the golf cart >> I mean the golf cart thing the golf cart >> I mean the golf cart thing the golf cart at the beginning is I mean you just at the beginning is I mean you just at the beginning is I mean you just don't want to walk, you want to drive don't want to walk, you want to drive don't want to walk, you want to drive and drive thing to drive better for you. and drive thing to drive better for you. and drive thing to drive better for you. Come on. It's supposed to be exercise. Come on. It's supposed to be exercise. Come on. It's supposed to be exercise. >> Isn't that interesting? the peaks of >> Isn't that interesting? the peaks of >> Isn't that interesting? the peaks of society. society. society. >> Are we at the peak? >> Are we at the peak? >> Are we at the peak? >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I thought that the peak of human society >> I thought that the peak of human society >> I thought that the peak of human society was 1999. was 1999. was 1999. But maybe I'm wrong. But maybe I'm wrong. But maybe I'm wrong. >> You know, in the Matrix, they believe >> You know, in the Matrix, they believe >> You know, in the Matrix, they believe that in the Matrix and so in the Matrix, that in the Matrix and so in the Matrix, that in the Matrix and so in the Matrix, they recreated 1999. That was the peak they recreated 1999. That was the peak they recreated 1999. That was the peak of human achievement and everything. You of human achievement and everything. You of human achievement and everything. You know, know, know, >> that was a Dimitri usual sarcasm, but >> that was a Dimitri usual sarcasm, but >> that was a Dimitri usual sarcasm, but not implying we are the society. I know. not implying we are the society. I know. not implying we are the society. I know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We might be at the trough. We might be >> We might be at the trough. We might be >> We might be at the trough. We might be at the trough. at the trough. at the trough. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Yeah. You know how happy everybody was >> Yeah. You know how happy everybody was >> Yeah. You know how happy everybody was in 1999. Do was raging. We were doing in 1999. Do was raging. We were doing in 1999. Do was raging. We were doing cool startups. Money was flowing. You cool startups. Money was flowing. You cool startups. Money was flowing. You know, you tune in to this new channel know, you tune in to this new channel know, you tune in to this new channel called CNBC and they're like, "The stock called CNBC and they're like, "The stock called CNBC and they're like, "The stock market's just market's just market's just >> right.

>> right. >> right. >> It's incredible." you know, pets, you >> It's incredible." you know, pets, you >> It's incredible." you know, pets, you know, web van pets.com. know, web van pets.com. know, web van pets.com. >> Someone someone last night was telling >> Someone someone last night was telling >> Someone someone last night was telling me about there's a scene in the cable me about there's a scene in the cable me about there's a scene in the cable guy with Jim Carrey where he talks about guy with Jim Carrey where he talks about guy with Jim Carrey where he talks about the information superighway. the information superighway. the information superighway. >> I think that that movie came around out >> I think that that movie came around out >> I think that that movie came around out around then and you know this utopian he around then and you know this utopian he around then and you know this utopian he gives this little speech very Jim Carrey gives this little speech very Jim Carrey gives this little speech very Jim Carrey speech about the superighway as the speech about the superighway as the speech about the superighway as the cable guy very utopian thing. He's like, cable guy very utopian thing. He's like, cable guy very utopian thing. He's like, you know, and that that was like peak you know, and that that was like peak you know, and that that was like peak that was peak internet. that was peak internet. that was peak internet. >> And then that it was like a a highway of >> And then that it was like a a highway of >> And then that it was like a a highway of misinformation and AI and spam and misinformation and AI and spam and misinformation and AI and spam and >> like, you know, it all sort of like sort >> like, you know, it all sort of like sort >> like, you know, it all sort of like sort of got of got of got >> we all had such high hopes back then. >> we all had such high hopes back then. >> we all had such high hopes back then. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> In the future, we were all so wrong. >> In the future, we were all so wrong. >> In the future, we were all so wrong. >> Oh well, you know. >> Oh well, you know. >> Oh well, you know. >> Yeah. But you know, the the vacuum >> Yeah. But you know, the the vacuum >> Yeah. But you know, the the vacuum cleaners are getting there. So that's cleaners are getting there. So that's cleaners are getting there. So that's >> we got to be saved by the vacuum >> we got to be saved by the vacuum >> we got to be saved by the vacuum cleaners. Oh, the other cool feature I cleaners. Oh, the other cool feature I cleaners. Oh, the other cool feature I saw that kind of caught my attention, saw that kind of caught my attention, saw that kind of caught my attention, and I don't know why I thought this was and I don't know why I thought this was and I don't know why I thought this was cool, but you know, for a lot of the new cool, but you know, for a lot of the new cool, but you know, for a lot of the new ovens, you can there's a camera in there ovens, you can there's a camera in there ovens, you can there's a camera in there now. So, you know how you used to turn now. So, you know how you used to turn now. So, you know how you used to turn the oven light on and look in there and the oven light on and look in there and the oven light on and look in there and be like, "What's going on?"

be like, "What's going on?" be like, "What's going on?" >> So, now they have they have cameras in >> So, now they have they have cameras in >> So, now they have they have cameras in the oven, so you can on your phone, you the oven, so you can on your phone, you the oven, so you can on your phone, you can just see like how your food's doing. can just see like how your food's doing. can just see like how your food's doing. >> Now, we're talking about real value. >> Now, we're talking about real value. >> Now, we're talking about real value. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. >> There you go. That's all I needed. I >> There you go. That's all I needed. I >> There you go. That's all I needed. I could tell that I've entered a different could tell that I've entered a different could tell that I've entered a different generational phase of my life because I generational phase of my life because I generational phase of my life because I did go by the Bosch booth and I was just did go by the Bosch booth and I was just did go by the Bosch booth and I was just transfixed like so many people by they transfixed like so many people by they transfixed like so many people by they had a whole kitchen set up and they had had a whole kitchen set up and they had had a whole kitchen set up and they had chefs cooking and they were actually chefs cooking and they were actually chefs cooking and they were actually actively making dishes and people were actively making dishes and people were actively making dishes and people were like you know and in the past I would be like you know and in the past I would be like you know and in the past I would be like I don't that's not tech or whatever like I don't that's not tech or whatever like I don't that's not tech or whatever I don't care about your ovens or this I don't care about your ovens or this I don't care about your ovens or this refrigerator but now all of a sudden I refrigerator but now all of a sudden I refrigerator but now all of a sudden I was like it was a tractor beam of was like it was a tractor beam of was like it was a tractor beam of hotness. hotness. hotness. >> I was just totally pulled into this >> I was just totally pulled into this >> I was just totally pulled into this kitchen stuff. So, I don't know what kitchen stuff. So, I don't know what kitchen stuff. So, I don't know what happened. happened. happened. >> Do you guys Do you guys remember those >> Do you guys Do you guys remember those >> Do you guys Do you guys remember those ads from the 60s or 70s 60s in the ads from the 60s or 70s 60s in the ads from the 60s or 70s 60s in the beginning of television where some beginning of television where some beginning of television where some people had like an electric fork to eat people had like an electric fork to eat people had like an electric fork to eat their spaghetti? their spaghetti? their spaghetti? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> That was the vision of the future. So, >> That was the vision of the future. So, >> That was the vision of the future. So, you you guys are giving me exactly the you you guys are giving me exactly the you you guys are giving me exactly the same impression.

same impression. same impression. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what you don't realize >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what you don't realize >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what you don't realize is all those cameras and all those is all those cameras and all those is all those cameras and all those things in the kitchen and what those things in the kitchen and what those things in the kitchen and what those chef don't realize either is that the chef don't realize either is that the chef don't realize either is that the data is recorded so the machine can data is recorded so the machine can data is recorded so the machine can learn how to do their job and learn what learn how to do their job and learn what learn how to do their job and learn what to sell because when you're looking at to sell because when you're looking at to sell because when you're looking at your oven with your oven with your oven with >> next year it'll be the robot humanoid >> next year it'll be the robot humanoid >> next year it'll be the robot humanoid robot cooking all that stuff out of the robot cooking all that stuff out of the robot cooking all that stuff out of the job job job >> and the data is going to Amazon then the >> and the data is going to Amazon then the >> and the data is going to Amazon then the next day you launch Amazon you have next day you launch Amazon you have next day you launch Amazon you have another time for the super chicken another time for the super chicken another time for the super chicken because the chicken you were cooking was because the chicken you were cooking was because the chicken you were cooking was the bad chicken the bad chicken the bad chicken >> so it's You need a bigger spatula >> so it's You need a bigger spatula >> so it's You need a bigger spatula >> at all. >> at all. >> at all. >> Nobody knows. Yeah. But it was ironic >> Nobody knows. Yeah. But it was ironic >> Nobody knows. Yeah. But it was ironic because right near the Bosch thing, if I because right near the Bosch thing, if I because right near the Bosch thing, if I walk a little further, I guess that was walk a little further, I guess that was walk a little further, I guess that was in the central hall, you know, you have in the central hall, you know, you have in the central hall, you know, you have LG and you know, others. And while LG LG and you know, others. And while LG LG and you know, others. And while LG and like Samsung, they're showing and like Samsung, they're showing and like Samsung, they're showing zillions of TVs along with uh TCL and uh zillions of TVs along with uh TCL and uh zillions of TVs along with uh TCL and uh everybody else. Um LG also had a kitchen everybody else. Um LG also had a kitchen everybody else. Um LG also had a kitchen setup and they also had people cooking. setup and they also had people cooking. setup and they also had people cooking. And so I didn't know if this was like a And so I didn't know if this was like a And so I didn't know if this was like a battle of the cooking shows live at CES battle of the cooking shows live at CES battle of the cooking shows live at CES or what, you know? I was waiting for uh or what, you know? I was waiting for uh or what, you know? I was waiting for uh Gordon Ramsay to come out there and Gordon Ramsay to come out there and Gordon Ramsay to come out there and start cussing at people and stuff, you start cussing at people and stuff, you start cussing at people and stuff, you know.

know. know. >> Yeah. Someone should have had Gordon >> Yeah. Someone should have had Gordon >> Yeah. Someone should have had Gordon Ramsay there as their like celebrity Ramsay there as their like celebrity Ramsay there as their like celebrity cook. cook. cook. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Draw. Yeah. There's a lot of kitchen >> Draw. Yeah. There's a lot of kitchen >> Draw. Yeah. There's a lot of kitchen setups for sure. setups for sure. setups for sure. >> The future of Iron Chef America is Chef >> The future of Iron Chef America is Chef >> The future of Iron Chef America is Chef America AI Edition. America AI Edition. America AI Edition. >> AI edition. >> AI edition. >> AI edition. I know my poster for next week. I know my poster for next week. I know my poster for next week. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I mean, I've seen I've seen a lot of >> I mean, I've seen I've seen a lot of >> I mean, I've seen I've seen a lot of those. I mean, if you think about the those. I mean, if you think about the those. I mean, if you think about the progression I mean, just stand on that progression I mean, just stand on that progression I mean, just stand on that thread. The progression of technology in thread. The progression of technology in thread. The progression of technology in appliances. appliances. appliances. >> Uh, I mean, Samsung had it. You knock on >> Uh, I mean, Samsung had it. You knock on >> Uh, I mean, Samsung had it. You knock on the door and it it lights up and you can the door and it it lights up and you can the door and it it lights up and you can see what's on the inside and it'll tell see what's on the inside and it'll tell see what's on the inside and it'll tell you what you go need to go and buy. And you what you go need to go and buy. And you what you go need to go and buy. And and I'm just like, there's still an art and I'm just like, there's still an art and I'm just like, there's still an art to being able to cook. to being able to cook. to being able to cook. >> It it just it just really is. I mean, if >> It it just it just really is. I mean, if >> It it just it just really is. I mean, if if I I don't see and I can't I can't if I I don't see and I can't I can't if I I don't see and I can't I can't imagine imagine imagine >> how much it costs to have that camera >> how much it costs to have that camera >> how much it costs to have that camera replaced inside the oven.

replaced inside the oven. replaced inside the oven. >> Yeah. Probably 700 bucks or something, >> Yeah. Probably 700 bucks or something, >> Yeah. Probably 700 bucks or something, >> right? I mean, you're just that alone. >> right? I mean, you're just that alone. >> right? I mean, you're just that alone. And I'm like, do I really need to see And I'm like, do I really need to see And I'm like, do I really need to see what I'm roasting in the oven? I I was what I'm roasting in the oven? I I was what I'm roasting in the oven? I I was enamored. I'm still enamored with enamored. I'm still enamored with enamored. I'm still enamored with >> the thing is you can't like when you're >> the thing is you can't like when you're >> the thing is you can't like when you're cooking, you can't open the oven cuz cooking, you can't open the oven cuz cooking, you can't open the oven cuz then you let the heat out. So then you then you let the heat out. So then you then you let the heat out. So then you have to look through the window and it's have to look through the window and it's have to look through the window and it's usually like kind of greasy and like usually like kind of greasy and like usually like kind of greasy and like whatever. So whatever. So whatever. So >> see, but that's where for me it it's all >> see, but that's where for me it it's all >> see, but that's where for me it it's all it's always everything for me has always it's always everything for me has always it's always everything for me has always been internal temp. Internal temp, been internal temp. Internal temp, been internal temp. Internal temp, right? You know, because when I pull it right? You know, because when I pull it right? You know, because when I pull it out, there's still some carryover blah out, there's still some carryover blah out, there's still some carryover blah blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah blah. >> Okay. But if I'm looking at it, how do I >> Okay. But if I'm looking at it, how do I >> Okay. But if I'm looking at it, how do I know? What do I know? know? What do I know? know? What do I know? >> I don't >> I don't >> I don't >> We need the fully quantified chicken >> We need the fully quantified chicken >> We need the fully quantified chicken that's in the oven. that's in the oven. that's in the oven. >> This, you know, >> This, you know, >> This, you know, >> you just stick one of those wireless >> you just stick one of those wireless >> you just stick one of those wireless thermometers. thermometers. thermometers. >> Well, there's there so so you know you >> Well, there's there so so you know you >> Well, there's there so so you know you know this too. There's all these crazy know this too. There's all these crazy know this too. There's all these crazy wireless thermometer probe things out wireless thermometer probe things out wireless thermometer probe things out there now that you know and probably there now that you know and probably there now that you know and probably this oven comes with one of those things this oven comes with one of those things this oven comes with one of those things too. So you get some 3D model of your >> spinning it in real time like look from >> spinning it in real time like look from the inside like you know and it's like the inside like you know and it's like the inside like you know and it's like >> it'll totally understand all the food >> it'll totally understand all the food >> it'll totally understand all the food that's being cooked and that's being cooked and that's being cooked and >> model cuisine. Your your chicken tastes >> model cuisine. Your your chicken tastes >> model cuisine. Your your chicken tastes better with a digital twin.

better with a digital twin. better with a digital twin. >> Yeah. It creates a digital twin of your >> Yeah. It creates a digital twin of your >> Yeah. It creates a digital twin of your chicken. chicken. chicken. >> I love that. I'll never eat a chicken >> I love that. I'll never eat a chicken >> I love that. I'll never eat a chicken again without a digital twin of it. again without a digital twin of it. again without a digital twin of it. Forget it. I want the digital twin Forget it. I want the digital twin Forget it. I want the digital twin chicken first. chicken first. chicken first. >> I understand. >> I understand. >> I understand. >> I want to I want to know is it good? >> I want to I want to know is it good? >> I want to I want to know is it good? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Before you eat the real chicken. >> Before you eat the real chicken. >> Before you eat the real chicken. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Right. Which takes us back to the >> Right. Which takes us back to the >> Right. Which takes us back to the matrix. How do I know what chicken matrix. How do I know what chicken matrix. How do I know what chicken tastes like? tastes like? tastes like? >> Seriously, if we go this direction, then >> Seriously, if we go this direction, then >> Seriously, if we go this direction, then it's really great because you have it's really great because you have it's really great because you have traceability and auditability. How was traceability and auditability. How was traceability and auditability. How was the chicken raised? What food did he the chicken raised? What food did he the chicken raised? What food did he ate? True, how processed. So, yeah, it's ate? True, how processed. So, yeah, it's ate? True, how processed. So, yeah, it's a great idea, Bill. a great idea, Bill. a great idea, Bill. >> Right. Well, it comes with a little RFID >> Right. Well, it comes with a little RFID >> Right. Well, it comes with a little RFID tag on its tag on its tag on its >> foot or whatever that talks about the >> foot or whatever that talks about the >> foot or whatever that talks about the origins and it's origins and it's origins and it's >> Oh, so it comes with footage some >> Oh, so it comes with footage some >> Oh, so it comes with footage some footage of it as a baby and then like footage of it as a baby and then like footage of it as a baby and then like you know you know you know >> some some by the way some European >> some some by the way some European >> some some by the way some European countries have been doing that for meat countries have been doing that for meat countries have been doing that for meat for decades. You have a barcode that you for decades. You have a barcode that you for decades. You have a barcode that you can scan and it tells you where the meat can scan and it tells you where the meat can scan and it tells you where the meat come from. So you come from. So you come from. So you >> Wow. So we've gone full Portlandia here, >> Wow. So we've gone full Portlandia here, >> Wow. So we've gone full Portlandia here, haven't we? Well, then you can then you haven't we? Well, then you can then you haven't we? Well, then you can then you can then you can like talk to the can then you can like talk to the can then you can like talk to the chicken using like a small language chicken using like a small language chicken using like a small language model like you know model like you know model like you know >> about how you were raised and then it'll >> about how you were raised and then it'll >> about how you were raised and then it'll say well there's a farm in Oregon and say well there's a farm in Oregon and say well there's a farm in Oregon and blah blah blah and blah blah blah and blah blah blah and >> and the >> and the >> and the >> that's the first thing that we should do >> that's the first thing that we should do >> that's the first thing that we should do is coin that term. It's an fbomb.

is coin that term. It's an fbomb. is coin that term. It's an fbomb. A food bill of materials. A food bill of materials. A food bill of materials. >> Food bill of materials. Fbomb. I love >> Food bill of materials. Fbomb. I love >> Food bill of materials. Fbomb. I love it. it. it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> Happy New Year, dude. What's up? >> Happy New Year, dude. What's up? >> Happy New Year, dude. What's up? So, and just just to finish on the So, and just just to finish on the So, and just just to finish on the conversation, imagine that because the conversation, imagine that because the conversation, imagine that because the digital twin persist, so you can digital twin persist, so you can digital twin persist, so you can continue to talk to the chicken after continue to talk to the chicken after continue to talk to the chicken after you ate it you ate it you ate it >> kind of like Tupac can come back and you >> kind of like Tupac can come back and you >> kind of like Tupac can come back and you can have a hologram. can have a hologram. can have a hologram. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And on on that bombshell, guys, I have >> And on on that bombshell, guys, I have >> And on on that bombshell, guys, I have to go and have a conraint to this. So, I to go and have a conraint to this. So, I to go and have a conraint to this. So, I watch the the rest of the episode. Have watch the the rest of the episode. Have watch the the rest of the episode. Have fun. Bye. fun. Bye. fun. Bye. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Ciao. How's it going, guys? >> Ciao. How's it going, guys? >> Ciao. How's it going, guys? >> We We kind of got off on a tangent, >> We We kind of got off on a tangent, >> We We kind of got off on a tangent, Leonard, about digital kitchens and CES Leonard, about digital kitchens and CES Leonard, about digital kitchens and CES and and and >> watching your food cook and digital twin >> watching your food cook and digital twin >> watching your food cook and digital twin of your food. of your food. of your food. >> I think we embraced and extended what we >> I think we embraced and extended what we >> I think we embraced and extended what we saw there at CES with digital kitchens. saw there at CES with digital kitchens. saw there at CES with digital kitchens. >> Yeah, this is like uh 2036, you know, >> Yeah, this is like uh 2036, you know, >> Yeah, this is like uh 2036, you know, CES. CES. CES. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. It's going to be the year of inventing It's going to be the year of inventing It's going to be the year of inventing problems that were that um that uh never problems that were that um that uh never problems that were that um that uh never existed to create new markets, existed to create new markets, existed to create new markets, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Because right now people don't know that >> Because right now people don't know that >> Because right now people don't know that they need a digital twin of the food they need a digital twin of the food they need a digital twin of the food they're cooking in their new Bosch oven. they're cooking in their new Bosch oven. they're cooking in their new Bosch oven. >> You know, with that light with the the >> You know, with that light with the the >> You know, with that light with the the the camera that you talked about that the camera that you talked about that the camera that you talked about that they had there, they had there, they had there, >> that camera, we actually used the same >> that camera, we actually used the same >> that camera, we actually used the same camera. There's a probe that's like near camera. There's a probe that's like near camera. There's a probe that's like near the sun right now capturing the sun and the sun right now capturing the sun and the sun right now capturing the sun and it was obviously a very special camera it was obviously a very special camera it was obviously a very special camera to handle the heat. We decided to use to handle the heat. We decided to use to handle the heat. We decided to use that exact same camera for our new oven. that exact same camera for our new oven. that exact same camera for our new oven. >> Yeah, that's why the oven's so >> Yeah, that's why the oven's so >> Yeah, that's why the oven's so expensive. It, you know, it's a $250,000 expensive. It, you know, it's a $250,000 expensive. It, you know, it's a $250,000 oven. oven. oven. Most of that cost is the special camera Most of that cost is the special camera Most of that cost is the special camera that that that signature series. Yeah. signature series. Yeah. signature series. Yeah. >> So, this is what it's like tuning into >> So, this is what it's like tuning into >> So, this is what it's like tuning into IoT coffee talk. IoT coffee talk. IoT coffee talk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, I mean, it's also the opportunity >> Well, I mean, it's also the opportunity >> Well, I mean, it's also the opportunity to redefine things, right? When when to redefine things, right? When when to redefine things, right? When when someone says they're dropping the fbomb, someone says they're dropping the fbomb, someone says they're dropping the fbomb, now we know. now we know. now we know. >> Boom. >> Boom. >> Boom. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Bill of materials. I love it. >> Bill of materials. I love it. >> Bill of materials. I love it. >> That That'll be our secret code. >> That That'll be our secret code. >> That That'll be our secret code. That's going to be Bill's new safe word That's going to be Bill's new safe word That's going to be Bill's new safe word or something like that. FBOMB.

>> Oh my god, man. >> Oh my god, man. >> Oh man. Lot of robots this year. >> Oh man. Lot of robots this year. >> Oh man. Lot of robots this year. >> Always robots. launch and and I watched >> Always robots. launch and and I watched >> Always robots. launch and and I watched the robot playing pingpong with a person the robot playing pingpong with a person the robot playing pingpong with a person >> and you because you're always going, "Is >> and you because you're always going, "Is >> and you because you're always going, "Is this totally fake? Is this been this totally fake? Is this been this totally fake? Is this been pre-programmed or whatever?" And clearly pre-programmed or whatever?" And clearly pre-programmed or whatever?" And clearly the pingpong guy that was real, you the pingpong guy that was real, you the pingpong guy that was real, you know, um I saw the other ones kung fu know, um I saw the other ones kung fu know, um I saw the other ones kung fu fighting, you know, on a screen. fighting, you know, on a screen. fighting, you know, on a screen. >> Yeah. The robot wasn't programmed. >> Yeah. The robot wasn't programmed. >> Yeah. The robot wasn't programmed. The person was. The person was. The person was. Did you notice that? Did you notice that? Did you notice that? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Did you notice that >> Did you notice that >> Did you notice that >> the person playing ping pong, he was >> the person playing ping pong, he was >> the person playing ping pong, he was programmed? programmed? programmed? >> He was programmed and instructed to hit >> He was programmed and instructed to hit >> He was programmed and instructed to hit the ping-pong ball straight at the the ping-pong ball straight at the the ping-pong ball straight at the robot. robot. robot. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> As close to the paddle as possible. So, >> As close to the paddle as possible. So, >> As close to the paddle as possible. So, this guy might have been a world this guy might have been a world this guy might have been a world champion pingpong player. champion pingpong player. champion pingpong player. >> Yeah. had pinpoint accuracy to basically >> Yeah. had pinpoint accuracy to basically >> Yeah. had pinpoint accuracy to basically hit the ball and with perfect timing to hit the ball and with perfect timing to hit the ball and with perfect timing to hit the robot's paddle the right angle hit the robot's paddle the right angle hit the robot's paddle the right angle so that that ball comes straight back at so that that ball comes straight back at so that that ball comes straight back at him. Cuz what I noticed is when he him. Cuz what I noticed is when he him. Cuz what I noticed is when he wasn't able to do that, the robot would wasn't able to do that, the robot would wasn't able to do that, the robot would miss the return.

miss the return. miss the return. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Did you notice that? >> Did you notice that? >> Did you notice that? >> These are these are very controlled >> These are these are very controlled >> These are these are very controlled >> very controlled demos. There's someone >> very controlled demos. There's someone >> very controlled demos. There's someone with an Oculus. I saw someone with a with an Oculus. I saw someone with a with an Oculus. I saw someone with a little Xbox controller behind the robot, little Xbox controller behind the robot, little Xbox controller behind the robot, you know, doing this. I'm like, that's you know, doing this. I'm like, that's you know, doing this. I'm like, that's not What is that? Like I did that in not What is that? Like I did that in not What is that? Like I did that in high school, you know? So, you have a high school, you know? So, you have a high school, you know? So, you have a robot with an Xbox controller. What the robot with an Xbox controller. What the robot with an Xbox controller. What the is that? is that? is that? >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> And then um Oh, here's the other thing I >> And then um Oh, here's the other thing I >> And then um Oh, here's the other thing I saw going into CES. saw going into CES. saw going into CES. There was this um you know, like uh There was this um you know, like uh There was this um you know, like uh advertising blurb, you know, that advertising blurb, you know, that advertising blurb, you know, that showcased the one of the tennis ball showcased the one of the tennis ball showcased the one of the tennis ball retrieving. retrieving. retrieving. >> Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. >> Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. >> Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. >> Yeah, that also like Yeah, that also >> Yeah, that also like Yeah, that also >> Yeah, that also like Yeah, that also shoots the balls out at you. shoots the balls out at you. shoots the balls out at you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they made it look like this thing >> And they made it look like this thing >> And they made it look like this thing can go around and you can play like can go around and you can play like can go around and you can play like Venus William or Venus Williams or Venus William or Venus Williams or Venus William or Venus Williams or Serena uh Williams and this could Serena uh Williams and this could Serena uh Williams and this could basically catch the ball. Anticipate basically catch the ball. Anticipate basically catch the ball. Anticipate where the ball is going to go and it's where the ball is going to go and it's where the ball is going to go and it's going to catch it. So, I'm sitting there going to catch it. So, I'm sitting there going to catch it. So, I'm sitting there watching this dude do the, you know, um, watching this dude do the, you know, um, watching this dude do the, you know, um, from the company do the demo, and you, from the company do the demo, and you, from the company do the demo, and you, of course, he's like just like hitting of course, he's like just like hitting of course, he's like just like hitting the ball as close as possible to where the ball as close as possible to where the ball as close as possible to where the robot is.

the robot is. the robot is. >> And, you know, a few of them are getting >> And, you know, a few of them are getting >> And, you know, a few of them are getting in there, and they get one of the um, in there, and they get one of the um, in there, and they get one of the um, guests to come in and give it a try and guests to come in and give it a try and guests to come in and give it a try and this thing is just like missing every this thing is just like missing every this thing is just like missing every single time. H. single time. H. single time. H. >> So, yeah, I it's kind of a >> So, yeah, I it's kind of a >> So, yeah, I it's kind of a >> joke. Um, >> joke. Um, >> joke. Um, >> but man, I thought >> but man, I thought >> but man, I thought >> that's how we start, bro. It's baby >> that's how we start, bro. It's baby >> that's how we start, bro. It's baby steps. Their plan is next year the guy's steps. Their plan is next year the guy's steps. Their plan is next year the guy's going to maybe do some more wild shots going to maybe do some more wild shots going to maybe do some more wild shots >> and hope the robot. >> and hope the robot. >> and hope the robot. >> They really need two. You need two >> They really need two. You need two >> They really need two. You need two tennis robots. You need the ball machine tennis robots. You need the ball machine tennis robots. You need the ball machine robot and then you need a Roomba type robot and then you need a Roomba type robot and then you need a Roomba type ball collector robot that kind of ball collector robot that kind of ball collector robot that kind of >> pops out and runs around and collects >> pops out and runs around and collects >> pops out and runs around and collects the balls while the machine shooting it the balls while the machine shooting it the balls while the machine shooting it at you. at you. at you. >> That would make more sense. Why would >> That would make more sense. Why would >> That would make more sense. Why would you have one do both? It doesn't make you have one do both? It doesn't make you have one do both? It doesn't make any sense. any sense. any sense. >> Yeah. And that's what I told this uh one >> Yeah. And that's what I told this uh one >> Yeah. And that's what I told this uh one of the companies at Unveil that was um of the companies at Unveil that was um of the companies at Unveil that was um doing the um they have a robot that and doing the um they have a robot that and doing the um they have a robot that and basic it's a practice robot, right?

basic it's a practice robot, right? basic it's a practice robot, right? Shoots the balls out. And I asked him, Shoots the balls out. And I asked him, Shoots the balls out. And I asked him, "Well, how come you don't have a net "Well, how come you don't have a net "Well, how come you don't have a net like the these other dudes that you like the these other dudes that you like the these other dudes that you know, apparent," and this is before I know, apparent," and this is before I know, apparent," and this is before I saw the demo of the this other company saw the demo of the this other company saw the demo of the this other company with the combined with the combined with the combined >> ball shooting thing and you know, >> ball shooting thing and you know, >> ball shooting thing and you know, catcher, right? And he goes, "Well, you catcher, right? And he goes, "Well, you catcher, right? And he goes, "Well, you know, oh, um, well, we haven't gotten know, oh, um, well, we haven't gotten know, oh, um, well, we haven't gotten there yet." Well, why don't you get like there yet." Well, why don't you get like there yet." Well, why don't you get like a Roomba kind of thing, go and collect a Roomba kind of thing, go and collect a Roomba kind of thing, go and collect the balls and dump it into the the balls and dump it into the the balls and dump it into the >> Yeah. to the um the >> Yeah. to the um the >> Yeah. to the um the >> machine. Yeah. machine and they go, >> machine. Yeah. machine and they go, >> machine. Yeah. machine and they go, "Wow, that's a good idea." "Wow, that's a good idea." "Wow, that's a good idea." >> Like, have they ever played tennis >> Like, have they ever played tennis >> Like, have they ever played tennis before? Have you used the ball machine? before? Have you used the ball machine? before? Have you used the ball machine? Like, that is the thing. I mean, Like, that is the thing. I mean, Like, that is the thing. I mean, >> yeah. That thing that you push to get >> yeah. That thing that you push to get >> yeah. That thing that you push to get the balls. the balls. the balls. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. You're you're a genius. See, >> Yeah. You're you're a genius. See, >> Yeah. You're you're a genius. See, that's that's what old people do. They that's that's what old people do. They that's that's what old people do. They they um they can um add sensibility they um they can um add sensibility they um they can um add sensibility into, you know, stupid ideas. Yeah. into, you know, stupid ideas. Yeah. into, you know, stupid ideas. Yeah. >> Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, it was a >> Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, it was a >> Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, it was a bunch. Yeah, a lot of robots this year.

bunch. Yeah, a lot of robots this year. bunch. Yeah, a lot of robots this year. The kitchen stuff. We were talking about The kitchen stuff. We were talking about The kitchen stuff. We were talking about vacuum cleaners, Leonard, before you vacuum cleaners, Leonard, before you vacuum cleaners, Leonard, before you came on board. came on board. came on board. >> Lawn lawnmowers. >> Lawn lawnmowers. >> Lawn lawnmowers. >> Oh, yeah. A lot of lawn like lawn >> Oh, yeah. A lot of lawn like lawn >> Oh, yeah. A lot of lawn like lawn robots. I would call them lawn robots robots. I would call them lawn robots robots. I would call them lawn robots cuz they you can do snow blowing. You cuz they you can do snow blowing. You cuz they you can do snow blowing. You can do um lawn, you know, grass cutting. can do um lawn, you know, grass cutting. can do um lawn, you know, grass cutting. Um so like think of like a general Um so like think of like a general Um so like think of like a general purpose yard, I think it was a company purpose yard, I think it was a company purpose yard, I think it was a company called yard bot saw, which is a good called yard bot saw, which is a good called yard bot saw, which is a good name. name. name. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> and you could put a different >> and you could put a different >> and you could put a different attachment. I think they had like a leaf attachment. I think they had like a leaf attachment. I think they had like a leaf blower attachment to it. So yeah, you blower attachment to it. So yeah, you blower attachment to it. So yeah, you have this kind of thick threaded robot have this kind of thick threaded robot have this kind of thick threaded robot thing in your yard that does all this thing in your yard that does all this thing in your yard that does all this stuff and uh that kind of made sense. I stuff and uh that kind of made sense. I stuff and uh that kind of made sense. I mean, I don't know how well it actually mean, I don't know how well it actually mean, I don't know how well it actually works, but and it doesn't require any, works, but and it doesn't require any, works, but and it doesn't require any, you know, wires in the ground or you know, wires in the ground or you know, wires in the ground or anything like that. So there was a bunch anything like that. So there was a bunch anything like that. So there was a bunch of those um of those um of those um >> you know, a lot of them this year. So I >> you know, a lot of them this year. So I >> you know, a lot of them this year. So I don't know price-wise, maybe they'll get don't know price-wise, maybe they'll get don't know price-wise, maybe they'll get a little more affordable, but a little more affordable, but a little more affordable, but >> that seemed to be the the new Roomba. >> that seemed to be the the new Roomba. >> that seemed to be the the new Roomba. Uh, that's the new thing is the yard Uh, that's the new thing is the yard Uh, that's the new thing is the yard bot. bot. bot. >> The yard bot. I love that. >> The yard bot. I love that. >> The yard bot. I love that. >> I would have liked that to have that >> I would have liked that to have that >> I would have liked that to have that when I was a kid instead of me being out when I was a kid instead of me being out when I was a kid instead of me being out there all day taking care of there all day taking care of there all day taking care of >> That's right. So, you you collect the 20 >> That's right. So, you you collect the 20 >> That's right. So, you you collect the 20 bucks from your dad and then you just bucks from your dad and then you just bucks from your dad and then you just send the robot out to do the work.

send the robot out to do the work. send the robot out to do the work. >> But you would not be you would not be >> But you would not be you would not be >> But you would not be you would not be the guy that you are today if you didn't the guy that you are today if you didn't the guy that you are today if you didn't do that manual labor. do that manual labor. do that manual labor. >> That's true. I did a lot of that manual >> That's true. I did a lot of that manual >> That's true. I did a lot of that manual labor and that's probably one of my labor and that's probably one of my labor and that's probably one of my first jobs was mowing people's lawns and first jobs was mowing people's lawns and first jobs was mowing people's lawns and eating and pulling weeds and all that eating and pulling weeds and all that eating and pulling weeds and all that stuff. stuff. stuff. >> Well, now the job will be following >> Well, now the job will be following >> Well, now the job will be following around the the yard bot and like, you around the the yard bot and like, you around the the yard bot and like, you know, getting it unstuck from different know, getting it unstuck from different know, getting it unstuck from different areas. areas. areas. >> Yeah, I felt like we were killing it >> Yeah, I felt like we were killing it >> Yeah, I felt like we were killing it back then. I I was I think I was back then. I I was I think I was back then. I I was I think I was charging 20 bucks a yard back in the day charging 20 bucks a yard back in the day charging 20 bucks a yard back in the day and on a Saturday you're just like and on a Saturday you're just like and on a Saturday you're just like cranking through them and get how many cranking through them and get how many cranking through them and get how many yards can I do today? yards can I do today? yards can I do today? >> I'm rich. >> I'm rich. >> I'm rich. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All relative. >> All relative. >> All relative. >> Yeah. We used to go and paint houses and >> Yeah. We used to go and paint houses and >> Yeah. We used to go and paint houses and just just just >> do a lot of the >> do a lot of the >> do a lot of the >> the house maintenance kind of work >> the house maintenance kind of work >> the house maintenance kind of work >> and it was fun, >> and it was fun, >> and it was fun, >> you know, to build build those kind I >> you know, to build build those kind I >> you know, to build build those kind I mean because you thought you were mean because you thought you were mean because you thought you were building a business for yourself, building a business for yourself, building a business for yourself, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> That was Yeah. >> That was Yeah. >> That was Yeah. >> And by the way, speaking of other cool >> And by the way, speaking of other cool >> And by the way, speaking of other cool things I saw that I think we'll see more things I saw that I think we'll see more things I saw that I think we'll see more of next year, I saw quite a few people of next year, I saw quite a few people of next year, I saw quite a few people walking around with exoskeletons.

walking around with exoskeletons. walking around with exoskeletons. >> They're wearing >> They're wearing >> They're wearing >> I heard that. I didn't see >> I heard that. I didn't see >> I heard that. I didn't see >> leg leg kind of leg braces or something >> leg leg kind of leg braces or something >> leg leg kind of leg braces or something like and that like helped you walk like and that like helped you walk like and that like helped you walk >> like >> like >> like >> you know I don't know how effective they >> you know I don't know how effective they >> you know I don't know how effective they were but um I saw I saw several of were but um I saw I saw several of were but um I saw I saw several of people with people with people with >> exoskeleton things on their legs. >> exoskeleton things on their legs. >> exoskeleton things on their legs. >> I mean I'd like to I'd like to have that >> I mean I'd like to I'd like to have that >> I mean I'd like to I'd like to have that and get you know put put them on my kids and get you know put put them on my kids and get you know put put them on my kids man. That way when I get their ass up man. That way when I get their ass up man. That way when I get their ass up and go and go and go >> oh then they just go Yeah. So against >> oh then they just go Yeah. So against >> oh then they just go Yeah. So against their will. Yeah. I don't know if it their will. Yeah. I don't know if it their will. Yeah. I don't know if it works that way but that is an works that way but that is an works that way but that is an interesting use case. I love that. And interesting use case. I love that. And interesting use case. I love that. And it get all my kids in the van when I it get all my kids in the van when I it get all my kids in the van when I say, you know, and I hit the button, say, you know, and I hit the button, say, you know, and I hit the button, they all just they all just they all just >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that would actually be a great name for >> that would actually be a great name for >> that would actually be a great name for the for the brand. Get your ass up. the for the brand. Get your ass up. the for the brand. Get your ass up. >> That's it, man. Look, >> That's it, man. Look, >> That's it, man. Look, >> I'm telling you, that's I'm looking at >> I'm telling you, that's I'm looking at >> I'm telling you, that's I'm looking at this stuff, I'm like, wow, they're this stuff, I'm like, wow, they're this stuff, I'm like, wow, they're they've got the wrong use cases. They're they've got the wrong use cases. They're they've got the wrong use cases. They're going going going >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Go. There you go. >> Go. There you go. >> Go. There you go. >> Yeah. My favorite use case for >> Yeah. My favorite use case for >> Yeah. My favorite use case for exoskeleton is fighting the mother queen exoskeleton is fighting the mother queen exoskeleton is fighting the mother queen alien.

alien. alien. >> Yes. Very very niche though. It's very >> Yes. Very very niche though. It's very >> Yes. Very very niche though. It's very niche. niche. niche. >> Very niche. Very niche. You know me and >> Very niche. Very niche. You know me and >> Very niche. Very niche. You know me and that um Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. that um Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. that um Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was >> Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was >> Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. pretty cool. pretty cool. >> You know, that was such a great movie >> You know, that was such a great movie >> You know, that was such a great movie and it aged incredibly well. and it aged incredibly well. and it aged incredibly well. >> Aliens aged well. >> Aliens aged well. >> Aliens aged well. >> The whole alien thing was Yeah. >> The whole alien thing was Yeah. >> The whole alien thing was Yeah. >> Get away from her, you >> Get away from her, you Yeah. Yeah. >> And you know what? Um, Dimmitri, if >> And you know what? Um, Dimmitri, if >> And you know what? Um, Dimmitri, if Dimmitri was on, you could tell them Dimmitri was on, you could tell them Dimmitri was on, you could tell them he's wrong. Um, he's wrong. Um, he's wrong. Um, >> in Aliens, >> in Aliens, >> in Aliens, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> no one can hear you scream. >> no one can hear you scream. >> no one can hear you scream. >> And, you know, they didn't have any of >> And, you know, they didn't have any of >> And, you know, they didn't have any of that interstellar that interstellar that interstellar pew, you know, going on. pew, you know, going on. pew, you know, going on. >> Sound effects. >> Sound effects. >> Sound effects. >> Good point. >> Good point. >> Good point. >> Space was silent. So, it's not only 2001 >> Space was silent. So, it's not only 2001 >> Space was silent. So, it's not only 2001 Space Odyssey. Space Odyssey. Space Odyssey. >> It's aliens. Yeah. You know, they had a >> It's aliens. Yeah. You know, they had a >> It's aliens. Yeah. You know, they had a whole lot of drooling going on there. whole lot of drooling going on there. whole lot of drooling going on there. >> A lot of drooling happening. Lot of >> A lot of drooling happening. Lot of >> A lot of drooling happening. Lot of >> You could hear it excess.

>> Acid. It was like acid. >> Acid. It was like acid. >> Acid from blood. >> Acid from blood. >> Acid from blood. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You know, just when you thought Paul >> You know, just when you thought Paul >> You know, just when you thought Paul Riser was your friend, what he really Riser was your friend, what he really Riser was your friend, what he really wants to do is get those aliens back to wants to do is get those aliens back to wants to do is get those aliens back to Earth for the company. Earth for the company. Earth for the company. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Company. I expected more from you, >> Company. I expected more from you, >> Company. I expected more from you, Ripley. I really did. Yeah, Ripley. I really did. Yeah, Ripley. I really did. Yeah, >> you know, they they had some uh really >> you know, they they had some uh really >> you know, they they had some uh really despicable corporate characters. despicable corporate characters. despicable corporate characters. >> That's the whole point. >> That's the whole point. >> That's the whole point. >> Yeah. They didn't they didn't paint big >> Yeah. They didn't they didn't paint big >> Yeah. They didn't they didn't paint big tech in a good light. tech in a good light. tech in a good light. >> No. No. You know, >> No. No. You know, >> No. No. You know, >> precient. >> precient. >> precient. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. The evil corporation. Oh, we want >> Whoa. The evil corporation. Oh, we want >> Whoa. The evil corporation. Oh, we want to build super soldiers with aliens. to build super soldiers with aliens. to build super soldiers with aliens. Yeah. Um, speaking of soldiers, by the Yeah. Um, speaking of soldiers, by the Yeah. Um, speaking of soldiers, by the way, another thing I saw at CES was a way, another thing I saw at CES was a way, another thing I saw at CES was a pretty cool like battlefield triage pretty cool like battlefield triage pretty cool like battlefield triage solution. So, it was like uh there's solution. So, it was like uh there's solution. So, it was like uh there's like these peel and stick kind of discs like these peel and stick kind of discs like these peel and stick kind of discs that you would put on injured soldiers that you would put on injured soldiers that you would put on injured soldiers in the field and they would collect in the field and they would collect in the field and they would collect their vitals and send them to like a their vitals and send them to like a their vitals and send them to like a central briefcase. central briefcase. central briefcase. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> Um, and also like in any kind of like >> Um, and also like in any kind of like >> Um, and also like in any kind of like civil casualty disaster thing. So, a lot civil casualty disaster thing. So, a lot civil casualty disaster thing. So, a lot of interesting kind of disaster relief of interesting kind of disaster relief of interesting kind of disaster relief type stuff.

type stuff. type stuff. >> I like that. >> I like that. >> I like that. >> Um, that was pretty cool. It's like an >> Um, that was pretty cool. It's like an >> Um, that was pretty cool. It's like an Apple Watch. Peel and stick Apple Watch Apple Watch. Peel and stick Apple Watch Apple Watch. Peel and stick Apple Watch type thing. They does the type thing. They does the type thing. They does the >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Wow. That's cool. >> Wow. That's cool. >> Wow. That's cool. >> That is cool. I like that. >> That is cool. I like that. >> That is cool. I like that. >> Yeah. You know, they had that in Aliens >> Yeah. You know, they had that in Aliens >> Yeah. You know, they had that in Aliens as well, right? Remember in the little as well, right? Remember in the little as well, right? Remember in the little APC APC APC >> uh armored personal carrier, you know, >> uh armored personal carrier, you know, >> uh armored personal carrier, you know, where they're tracking the platoon and where they're tracking the platoon and where they're tracking the platoon and their vital signs and when the aliens their vital signs and when the aliens their vital signs and when the aliens attacked, everyone was like dying off attacked, everyone was like dying off attacked, everyone was like dying off and and and >> flat lines everywhere, you know. >> flat lines everywhere, you know. >> flat lines everywhere, you know. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. >> Alone. Bone. Yeah. Exactly. >> Alone. Bone. Yeah. Exactly. >> Alone. Bone. Yeah. Exactly. The one the sergeant gets captured and The one the sergeant gets captured and The one the sergeant gets captured and the lieutenant's in shell shock. the lieutenant's in shell shock. the lieutenant's in shell shock. >> He's in shell shock. He was greatest >> He's in shell shock. He was greatest >> He's in shell shock. He was greatest ever. ever. ever. >> It turns out Sigourney Weaver had to >> It turns out Sigourney Weaver had to >> It turns out Sigourney Weaver had to take control of the whole thing take control of the whole thing take control of the whole thing >> cuz the lieutenant in charge turned out >> cuz the lieutenant in charge turned out >> cuz the lieutenant in charge turned out to be a wuss. to be a wuss. to be a wuss. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Another lesson >> Another lesson >> Another lesson for Yeah. for Yeah. for Yeah. >> Learn a lot of lessons from a lot of >> Learn a lot of lessons from a lot of >> Learn a lot of lessons from a lot of lessons. All goes back to aliens. lessons. All goes back to aliens. lessons. All goes back to aliens. >> It really does. It really does. You >> It really does. It really does. You >> It really does. It really does. You know, why do you put her in charge?

Game over, man. No man, that used to be Game over, man. No man, that used to be my um um the uh what do they call it? my um um the uh what do they call it? my um um the uh what do they call it? The that you stick on your phone The that you stick on your phone The that you stick on your phone that makes noise when somebody calls that makes noise when somebody calls that makes noise when somebody calls you. The you. The you. The >> I can't think this morning. I'm like >> I can't think this morning. I'm like >> I can't think this morning. I'm like >> the thing that you stick on your phone. >> the thing that you stick on your phone. >> the thing that you stick on your phone. >> Doesn't the phone already do that? >> Doesn't the phone already do that? >> Doesn't the phone already do that? >> Yeah. What's that called? Ringtone. >> Yeah. What's that called? Ringtone. >> Yeah. What's that called? Ringtone. >> The ringtone. >> The ringtone. >> The ringtone. >> Yeah, ringtone. You stick a ringtone >> Yeah, ringtone. You stick a ringtone >> Yeah, ringtone. You stick a ringtone >> thing you stick on your phone. >> thing you stick on your phone. >> thing you stick on your phone. >> Heel and stick the ringtone to the back >> Heel and stick the ringtone to the back >> Heel and stick the ringtone to the back of the phone. Hey, maybe that's a good of the phone. Hey, maybe that's a good of the phone. Hey, maybe that's a good idea. We should have this. You know, idea. We should have this. You know, idea. We should have this. You know, >> if you knew who I was talking to before >> if you knew who I was talking to before >> if you knew who I was talking to before I jumped on this call, then you would I jumped on this call, then you would I jumped on this call, then you would understand why my brain is drained. understand why my brain is drained. understand why my brain is drained. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When did you fly home? >> When did you fly home? >> When did you fly home? >> Um, last night. >> Um, last night. >> Um, last night. >> Yeah, me too. >> Yeah, me too. >> Yeah, me too. >> Around 8. >> Around 8. >> Around 8. >> I'm heading out. I'm heading out in >> I'm heading out. I'm heading out in >> I'm heading out. I'm heading out in about two hours. So, about two hours. So, about two hours. So, >> that's cool. No, you're still there. >> that's cool. No, you're still there. >> that's cool. No, you're still there. >> Yeah, I got a couple more customer >> Yeah, I got a couple more customer >> Yeah, I got a couple more customer things this morning and then things this morning and then things this morning and then >> Yeah. You know what the the weirdest Did >> Yeah. You know what the the weirdest Did >> Yeah. You know what the the weirdest Did you guys go down the hall the South you guys go down the hall the South you guys go down the hall the South Hall? Hall? Hall? >> Yeah, I did.

>> Yeah, I did. >> Yeah, I did. >> That was that the weirdest thing you >> That was that the weirdest thing you >> That was that the weirdest thing you ever saw? I mean, that was like ever saw? I mean, that was like ever saw? I mean, that was like literally literally literally >> South Hall. S is for shenzen. >> South Hall. S is for shenzen. >> South Hall. S is for shenzen. >> Shenzen. There you go. >> Shenzen. There you go. >> Shenzen. There you go. >> Seriously, almost every booth in the >> Seriously, almost every booth in the >> Seriously, almost every booth in the South Hall was Shenzen something or South Hall was Shenzen something or South Hall was Shenzen something or other. other. other. >> Something. Yeah. And also it was like >> Something. Yeah. And also it was like >> Something. Yeah. And also it was like here let's whatever option you know like here let's whatever option you know like here let's whatever option you know like uh end other crap we'll throw it into uh end other crap we'll throw it into uh end other crap we'll throw it into this hall. So they had like uh smart this hall. So they had like uh smart this hall. So they had like uh smart toothbrushes and freaking weird beauty toothbrushes and freaking weird beauty toothbrushes and freaking weird beauty stuff and like a mix ma mish mash of stuff and like a mix ma mish mash of stuff and like a mix ma mish mash of stuff and stuff and stuff and >> mirrors mirrors. >> mirrors mirrors. >> mirrors mirrors. >> Smart mirrors mirrors >> Smart mirrors mirrors >> Smart mirrors mirrors >> like skin detecting like skin diagnosing >> like skin detecting like skin diagnosing >> like skin detecting like skin diagnosing mirrors and hair diagnosing hair brushes mirrors and hair diagnosing hair brushes mirrors and hair diagnosing hair brushes and teeth diagnosing toothbrush. and teeth diagnosing toothbrush. and teeth diagnosing toothbrush. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> A lot of diagnosing and measuring. A lot >> A lot of diagnosing and measuring. A lot >> A lot of diagnosing and measuring. A lot of Theronos happening all over the of Theronos happening all over the of Theronos happening all over the place. A place. A place. A >> lot of Theronos. Yeah, >> lot of Theronos. Yeah, >> lot of Theronos. Yeah, >> absolutely. You know, don't broadcast >> absolutely. You know, don't broadcast >> absolutely. You know, don't broadcast that stuff live to the prison cell or that stuff live to the prison cell or that stuff live to the prison cell or Elizabeth Holmes, you know, she'll be Elizabeth Holmes, you know, she'll be Elizabeth Holmes, you know, she'll be like, "I was there first. Damn it. Just like, "I was there first. Damn it. Just like, "I was there first. Damn it. Just a drop of blood."

>> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Be a lot of health and beauty product >> Be a lot of health and beauty product >> Be a lot of health and beauty product type type type >> self measurements, blah blah blah. I >> self measurements, blah blah blah. I >> self measurements, blah blah blah. I don't know how all that stuff works don't know how all that stuff works don't know how all that stuff works together though. Like if I'm collecting together though. Like if I'm collecting together though. Like if I'm collecting data from my toothbrush and my screen data from my toothbrush and my screen data from my toothbrush and my screen and my scale and my what I mean I guess and my scale and my what I mean I guess and my scale and my what I mean I guess it all goes to Apple Health or something it all goes to Apple Health or something it all goes to Apple Health or something or some kind of or some kind of or some kind of >> Oh wait you're you're thinking that all >> Oh wait you're you're thinking that all >> Oh wait you're you're thinking that all these competing things are going to these competing things are going to these competing things are going to collaborate and collaborate and collaborate and >> well I'm wondering like what is the >> well I'm wondering like what is the >> well I'm wondering like what is the central point of analysis central point of analysis central point of analysis >> I can tell you >> I can tell you >> I can tell you there isn't a central point of analysis there isn't a central point of analysis there isn't a central point of analysis that is a huge issue that is a huge issue that is a huge issue >> um particularly when there when the in >> um particularly when there when the in >> um particularly when there when the in the health care space, they're looking the health care space, they're looking the health care space, they're looking at that because they're wanting to at that because they're wanting to at that because they're wanting to engage more with their patients. engage more with their patients. engage more with their patients. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, they would like to know what are >> So, they would like to know what are >> So, they would like to know what are your, you know, what are your biometrics your, you know, what are your biometrics your, you know, what are your biometrics when you get into the the hospital. when you get into the the hospital. when you get into the the hospital. >> And there's and the problem that they're >> And there's and the problem that they're >> And there's and the problem that they're running into is that all of these running into is that all of these running into is that all of these independent device manufacturers, that independent device manufacturers, that independent device manufacturers, that being the smartwatches, the aura rings, being the smartwatches, the aura rings, being the smartwatches, the aura rings, all of that stuff, all of that stuff, all of that stuff, >> they all have their own little >> they all have their own little >> they all have their own little >> They all have their own and there is no >> They all have their own and there is no >> They all have their own and there is no way to bring them in.

way to bring them in. way to bring them in. >> No. Ah, >> No. Ah, >> No. Ah, >> yeah. You know what? And the more I >> yeah. You know what? And the more I >> yeah. You know what? And the more I think, you know, based off of that think, you know, based off of that think, you know, based off of that statement, Bill, the more I think about statement, Bill, the more I think about statement, Bill, the more I think about it, the privacy and the security stuff it, the privacy and the security stuff it, the privacy and the security stuff is is is is going to be a luxury. Um, and that is going to be a luxury. Um, and that is going to be a luxury. Um, and that that will probably that will probably that will probably increasing, you know, like remember when increasing, you know, like remember when increasing, you know, like remember when um I think it was like um 2017 um I think it was like um 2017 um I think it was like um 2017 when um when um when um um Apple put up that bill big uh um Apple put up that bill big uh um Apple put up that bill big uh advertisement on that building that advertisement on that building that advertisement on that building that says, you know, something like privacy says, you know, something like privacy says, you know, something like privacy first, we're privacy. Mhm. first, we're privacy. Mhm. first, we're privacy. Mhm. >> There's going to be one called um yeah, >> There's going to be one called um yeah, >> There's going to be one called um yeah, it's like trust something related to it's like trust something related to it's like trust something related to trust and security because um you know trust and security because um you know trust and security because um you know this whole chase um you know this whole this whole chase um you know this whole this whole chase um you know this whole AI race thingy is um getting everyone to AI race thingy is um getting everyone to AI race thingy is um getting everyone to not give a about data privacy or not give a about data privacy or not give a about data privacy or privacy at all. Right? Because the whole privacy at all. Right? Because the whole privacy at all. Right? Because the whole um you know the the priority is to get um you know the the priority is to get um you know the the priority is to get that data that data that data >> and um I >> and um I >> and um I >> and the best way to get that data >> and the best way to get that data >> and the best way to get that data >> is to wear a pendant around you >> is to wear a pendant around you >> is to wear a pendant around you >> keep with you at all times that sees >> keep with you at all times that sees >> keep with you at all times that sees everything you see and hears everything everything you see and hears everything everything you see and hears everything you hear.

you hear. you hear. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, actually >> Well, actually >> Well, actually uh 80215.6 uh 80215.6 uh 80215.6 six six six is the the standard or the that that's is the the standard or the that that's is the the standard or the that that's the standard that's going to be uh used the standard that's going to be uh used the standard that's going to be uh used for wireless communications specifically for wireless communications specifically for wireless communications specifically designed for wireless body area designed for wireless body area designed for wireless body area networks. networks. networks. >> Ah >> and that includes cardiovascular, >> and that includes cardiovascular, respiratory, metabolic, biomechanical respiratory, metabolic, biomechanical respiratory, metabolic, biomechanical and neurological. and neurological. and neurological. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Dropped first on IoT coffee. Ah, wow. >> Dropped first on IoT coffee. Ah, wow. >> Dropped first on IoT coffee. Ah, wow. >> That is something I mean I I have no >> That is something I mean I I have no >> That is something I mean I I have no problem letting the cat out the bag. problem letting the cat out the bag. problem letting the cat out the bag. That's something that True North is That's something that True North is That's something that True North is working on for the human digital twin. working on for the human digital twin. working on for the human digital twin. >> You guys were pioneers in that. I heard >> You guys were pioneers in that. I heard >> You guys were pioneers in that. I heard >> going way back, >> going way back, >> going way back, >> man. You guys are crazy, man. >> man. You guys are crazy, man. >> man. You guys are crazy, man. >> That's awesome, Bill. >> That's awesome, Bill. >> That's awesome, Bill. >> I mean, think about it, right? I mean, >> I mean, think about it, right? I mean, >> I mean, think about it, right? I mean, look, we're we're we're working with look, we're we're we're working with look, we're we're we're working with health facilities now to do digital health facilities now to do digital health facilities now to do digital twins for the buildings, right? So, twins for the buildings, right? So, twins for the buildings, right? So, that's all of the that's all of that that's all of the that's all of that that's all of the that's all of that space, right? They're looking at, "Can space, right? They're looking at, "Can space, right? They're looking at, "Can you tell us where the wheelchairs are?

you tell us where the wheelchairs are? you tell us where the wheelchairs are? Can you tell us what's happening here? Can you tell us what's happening here? Can you tell us what's happening here? Can you engage our patients as they walk Can you engage our patients as they walk Can you engage our patients as they walk in?" And I'm like, naturally, come on. in?" And I'm like, naturally, come on. in?" And I'm like, naturally, come on. The next thing is to have your patients The next thing is to have your patients The next thing is to have your patients walk in and for you to already know what walk in and for you to already know what walk in and for you to already know what they're vital. they're vital. they're vital. >> That's right. That's right. And and I >> That's right. That's right. And and I >> That's right. That's right. And and I mean and it's like now now now now mean and it's like now now now now mean and it's like now now now now Leonard to your point yes privacy is a a Leonard to your point yes privacy is a a Leonard to your point yes privacy is a a challenge but there are already challenge but there are already challenge but there are already uh standards bodies that are you know uh standards bodies that are you know uh standards bodies that are you know researching a lot of this and of course researching a lot of this and of course researching a lot of this and of course we're in on it. We're we're over here we're in on it. We're we're over here we're in on it. We're we're over here you know you know you know >> trying to have those conversations. >> trying to have those conversations. >> trying to have those conversations. >> Yeah. But research and conversations, >> Yeah. But research and conversations, >> Yeah. But research and conversations, you know, those you know, those you know, those those don't prevent, you know, the those don't prevent, you know, the those don't prevent, you know, the potential harm from happening. You know, potential harm from happening. You know, potential harm from happening. You know, >> you're never gonna you're never going to >> you're never gonna you're never going to >> you're never gonna you're never going to you're never going to stop that. The you're never going to stop that. The you're never going to stop that. The thing about it is that you have to have thing about it is that you have to have thing about it is that you have to have continuous. It has to be continuous. continuous. It has to be continuous. continuous. It has to be continuous. >> You know, so the privacy aspect of it is >> You know, so the privacy aspect of it is >> You know, so the privacy aspect of it is separate although combined with the separate although combined with the separate although combined with the cyber security aspect of it. So the cyber security aspect of it. So the cyber security aspect of it. So the biggest part of it is is that what what biggest part of it is is that what what biggest part of it is is that what what at least what uh on our side what we're at least what uh on our side what we're at least what uh on our side what we're saying is like saying is like saying is like >> the only we're not the aura ring. The >> the only we're not the aura ring. The >> the only we're not the aura ring. The aura ring is collecting your data.

aura ring is collecting your data. aura ring is collecting your data. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Most people that have the aura ring >> Most people that have the aura ring >> Most people that have the aura ring don't even know where their data is. don't even know where their data is. don't even know where their data is. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> We can cloud. >> We can cloud. >> We can cloud. >> Yeah. So that magical thing, you know, >> Yeah. So that magical thing, you know, >> Yeah. So that magical thing, you know, uh but in actuality it's the edge cloud uh but in actuality it's the edge cloud uh but in actuality it's the edge cloud that is that is actually doing that. You that is that is actually doing that. You that is that is actually doing that. You are the edge. are the edge. are the edge. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> you are the edge. >> you are the edge. >> you are the edge. >> You are the edge. >> You are the edge. >> You are the edge. >> Or your phone, you know, your phone is >> Or your phone, you know, your phone is >> Or your phone, you know, your phone is >> your phone, your aura ring, your all of >> your phone, your aura ring, your all of >> your phone, your aura ring, your all of those things. Now, now let's let's even those things. Now, now let's let's even those things. Now, now let's let's even take it a step further and talk about take it a step further and talk about take it a step further and talk about the the the clothing, the the the clothing, the the the clothing, >> smart being put into clothing. >> smart being put into clothing. >> smart being put into clothing. >> Yeah, there was a lot of >> Yeah, there was a lot of >> Yeah, there was a lot of >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And so where is that data going? >> Right. And so where is that data going? >> Right. And so where is that data going? Nobody knows. But the biggest part and Nobody knows. But the biggest part and Nobody knows. But the biggest part and that's why I was alluding to that Pete that's why I was alluding to that Pete that's why I was alluding to that Pete was you know the interoperability. How was you know the interoperability. How was you know the interoperability. How do you bring all of that data in? So in do you bring all of that data in? So in do you bring all of that data in? So in this instance you bring the model to the this instance you bring the model to the this instance you bring the model to the data not the data to the model. data not the data to the model. data not the data to the model. >> Yeah. Although I think a lot of these >> Yeah. Although I think a lot of these >> Yeah. Although I think a lot of these folks are assuming well I have my smart folks are assuming well I have my smart folks are assuming well I have my smart clothing smart mirror, smart hairbrush, clothing smart mirror, smart hairbrush, clothing smart mirror, smart hairbrush, whatever. And then I have an app and whatever. And then I have an app and whatever. And then I have an app and then that app syncs to my is on my phone then that app syncs to my is on my phone then that app syncs to my is on my phone and then the data syncs to that and then and then the data syncs to that and then and then the data syncs to that and then that gets pushed into Apple Health or that gets pushed into Apple Health or that gets pushed into Apple Health or whatever and then whatever and then whatever and then >> that's it. But you know We've learned >> that's it. But you know We've learned >> that's it. But you know We've learned over the years this IoTA journey that over the years this IoTA journey that over the years this IoTA journey that we've been on for 10,000 years at all we've been on for 10,000 years at all we've been on for 10,000 years at all initially it goes to the OEM initially it goes to the OEM initially it goes to the OEM um separately no collaboration no um separately no collaboration no um separately no collaboration no interoperability nothing because interoperability nothing because interoperability nothing because everyone believes that they're going to everyone believes that they're going to everyone believes that they're going to win.

win. win. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um that's that's the the thing this >> Um that's that's the the thing this >> Um that's that's the the thing this whole notion of collaboration or we're whole notion of collaboration or we're whole notion of collaboration or we're we're we're we're >> working data is the asset you know. >> working data is the asset you know. >> working data is the asset you know. >> Yeah. And so they're like, "No, we're >> Yeah. And so they're like, "No, we're >> Yeah. And so they're like, "No, we're not sharing this data because we want to not sharing this data because we want to not sharing this data because we want to win. Everyone thinks it's a winner take win. Everyone thinks it's a winner take win. Everyone thinks it's a winner take all thing just like the cloud and all thing just like the cloud and all thing just like the cloud and everything else." everything else." everything else." >> There aren't too many winner take all >> There aren't too many winner take all >> There aren't too many winner take all markets anymore in tech. I mean, doesn't markets anymore in tech. I mean, doesn't markets anymore in tech. I mean, doesn't really work anymore. really work anymore. really work anymore. >> That to me is is part of the challenge >> That to me is is part of the challenge >> That to me is is part of the challenge though is that it's it's going to be, though is that it's it's going to be, though is that it's it's going to be, you know, from a legal and ethical you know, from a legal and ethical you know, from a legal and ethical perspective, perspective, perspective, >> you know, what what what is it? >> you know, what what what is it? >> you know, what what what is it? Technology can you can do a lot with Technology can you can do a lot with Technology can you can do a lot with that, right? But but what you can't do that, right? But but what you can't do that, right? But but what you can't do is is basically say, "Oh, yeah, uh, is is basically say, "Oh, yeah, uh, is is basically say, "Oh, yeah, uh, HIPPA, we're going to be compliant. HIPPA, we're going to be compliant. HIPPA, we're going to be compliant. You're going to be compliant." What does You're going to be compliant." What does You're going to be compliant." What does that even mean? that even mean? that even mean? >> We're going to check a box. >> We're going to check a box. >> We're going to check a box. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The cost associated >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The cost associated >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The cost associated with compliance is going to is going to with compliance is going to is going to with compliance is going to is going to prevent a lot of these um companies from prevent a lot of these um companies from prevent a lot of these um companies from actually delivering on their technology actually delivering on their technology actually delivering on their technology vision. Oh, vision. Oh, vision. Oh, >> that's why we moved our company >> that's why we moved our company >> that's why we moved our company headquarters to this remote island in headquarters to this remote island in headquarters to this remote island in the Pacific Ocean.

the Pacific Ocean. the Pacific Ocean. >> And we actually formed our own country >> And we actually formed our own country >> And we actually formed our own country and everything so that we don't have to and everything so that we don't have to and everything so that we don't have to abide by all those pesky rules around abide by all those pesky rules around abide by all those pesky rules around privacy and all that privacy and all that privacy and all that >> You know, all that does is slow down >> You know, all that does is slow down >> You know, all that does is slow down innovation. innovation. innovation. >> Well, they have, you know, in the in the >> Well, they have, you know, in the in the >> Well, they have, you know, in the in the electrical world, right? They had the electrical world, right? They had the electrical world, right? They had the the UL certified, you know, maybe the UL certified, you know, maybe the UL certified, you know, maybe >> the data privacy certified. >> the data privacy certified. >> the data privacy certified. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> it's like a whole lot of people going, >> it's like a whole lot of people going, >> it's like a whole lot of people going, "Well, we just decided that we're not "Well, we just decided that we're not "Well, we just decided that we're not going to do business in Europe anymore going to do business in Europe anymore going to do business in Europe anymore because all those pesky regulations are because all those pesky regulations are because all those pesky regulations are just making it too hard." So, bye-bye. just making it too hard." So, bye-bye. just making it too hard." So, bye-bye. >> Well, that was the that was the >> Well, that was the that was the >> Well, that was the that was the advantage of California in the US, advantage of California in the US, advantage of California in the US, right? So, California would pass some right? So, California would pass some right? So, California would pass some legislation and then basically every legislation and then basically every legislation and then basically every every other state had to follow because every other state had to follow because every other state had to follow because if people wanted to sell in California, if people wanted to sell in California, if people wanted to sell in California, it had to do X, Y, and Z. And so, it it had to do X, Y, and Z. And so, it it had to do X, Y, and Z. And so, it sort of drove the whole kind of US sort of drove the whole kind of US sort of drove the whole kind of US ecosystem. ecosystem. ecosystem. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So but I mean the yeah it's but the So but I mean the yeah it's but the So but I mean the yeah it's but the thing is thing is thing is not all not all innov most innovation is not all not all innov most innovation is not all not all innov most innovation is not all that great and it's not not all that great and it's not not all that great and it's not important enough to important enough to important enough to um you know basically disregard any kind um you know basically disregard any kind um you know basically disregard any kind of protective regulation right of protective regulation right of protective regulation right >> um and I think that that's the bad >> um and I think that that's the bad >> um and I think that that's the bad that's the wrong attitude um reg you that's the wrong attitude um reg you that's the wrong attitude um reg you know those constraints can create know those constraints can create know those constraints can create opportunities for um innovators to bring opportunities for um innovators to bring opportunities for um innovators to bring solutions to market. And so that's why a solutions to market. And so that's why a solutions to market. And so that's why a lot of people when a regulation comes

lot of people when a regulation comes lot of people when a regulation comes into play, they see it as an opportunity into play, they see it as an opportunity into play, they see it as an opportunity and there ends up being a real business and there ends up being a real business and there ends up being a real business opportunity there, right? And then it opportunity there, right? And then it opportunity there, right? And then it spurs a different kind of innovation. spurs a different kind of innovation. spurs a different kind of innovation. But I think the twisted narrative is But I think the twisted narrative is But I think the twisted narrative is that regulation equals the stifling of that regulation equals the stifling of that regulation equals the stifling of innovation. actually it drives probably innovation. actually it drives probably innovation. actually it drives probably a more beneficial category of a more beneficial category of a more beneficial category of >> yeah ultimately broader adoption >> yeah ultimately broader adoption >> yeah ultimately broader adoption >> then let me steal all your and then >> then let me steal all your and then >> then let me steal all your and then put it on the dark allow it to be put on put it on the dark allow it to be put on put it on the dark allow it to be put on the dark web so that we can hydrate a the dark web so that we can hydrate a the dark web so that we can hydrate a you know cyber crim criminal economy you know cyber crim criminal economy you know cyber crim criminal economy which is exactly what's happening you which is exactly what's happening you which is exactly what's happening you know and so a lot of the irresponsible know and so a lot of the irresponsible know and so a lot of the irresponsible uh innovation is being happen is uh innovation is being happen is uh innovation is being happen is happening by people I I mean, who gives happening by people I I mean, who gives happening by people I I mean, who gives a about going to Mars? Quite a about going to Mars? Quite a about going to Mars? Quite honestly, honestly, honestly, >> I go to Mars, man. Get your ass Get your >> I go to Mars, man. Get your ass Get your >> I go to Mars, man. Get your ass Get your ass to Mars. >> Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? Did I get >> Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? Did I get it right? it right? it right? >> Yes. Yes, you did.

>> Yes. Yes, you did. >> Yes. Yes, you did. Total recall. So, exactly. Two weeks. Total recall. So, exactly. Two weeks. Total recall. So, exactly. Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. >> I love that movie. >> I love that movie. >> I love that movie. >> Oh my god. Well, you know, so the other >> Oh my god. Well, you know, so the other >> Oh my god. Well, you know, so the other thing about the the the regulatory thing thing about the the the regulatory thing thing about the the the regulatory thing was the you're right, it's couched as was the you're right, it's couched as was the you're right, it's couched as like, well, regulations equal stifling, like, well, regulations equal stifling, like, well, regulations equal stifling, but it's also now couched as a but it's also now couched as a but it's also now couched as a geopolitical race, right? So, it's like, geopolitical race, right? So, it's like, geopolitical race, right? So, it's like, well, there's a race, the race is on, well, there's a race, the race is on, well, there's a race, the race is on, and so if we have any regulation, we're and so if we have any regulation, we're and so if we have any regulation, we're going to lose the race, you know, to the going to lose the race, you know, to the going to lose the race, you know, to the the other the other the other >> whatever. >> whatever. >> whatever. >> Cuz there's another entity out there >> Cuz there's another entity out there >> Cuz there's another entity out there that is not playing ball with those that is not playing ball with those that is not playing ball with those regulations. regulations. regulations. >> That's right. And they're not playing by >> That's right. And they're not playing by >> That's right. And they're not playing by the rules. And so, we need to beat them. the rules. And so, we need to beat them. the rules. And so, we need to beat them. And so, therefore, we can't have rules And so, therefore, we can't have rules And so, therefore, we can't have rules either. And we've tried to tell those either. And we've tried to tell those either. And we've tried to tell those that particular place that there are that particular place that there are that particular place that there are rules and laws and they just don't seem rules and laws and they just don't seem rules and laws and they just don't seem to understand. They don't seem to care, to understand. They don't seem to care, to understand. They don't seem to care, you know. you know. you know. >> So whatever, we'll just use our pirated >> So whatever, we'll just use our pirated >> So whatever, we'll just use our pirated copy of Windows XP. >> Why not? Why not? >> Why not? Why not? >> It's been 35 years in the making.

>> It's been 35 years in the making. >> It's been 35 years in the making. >> Pretty much. Um, you know, Mr. True >> Pretty much. Um, you know, Mr. True >> Pretty much. Um, you know, Mr. True North. It when you I think about some North. It when you I think about some North. It when you I think about some twins and smart city stuff. I I'll have twins and smart city stuff. I I'll have twins and smart city stuff. I I'll have to show it to you. I I did spend some to show it to you. I I did spend some to show it to you. I I did spend some time over the holidays. I've got a time over the holidays. I've got a time over the holidays. I've got a entity relationship diagram now of my of entity relationship diagram now of my of entity relationship diagram now of my of a smart city database and now I just got a smart city database and now I just got a smart city database and now I just got a I was like adding on to I did some a I was like adding on to I did some a I was like adding on to I did some smart building stuff with a startup a smart building stuff with a startup a smart building stuff with a startup a couple years ago. couple years ago. couple years ago. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I was like I want to expand it. And so >> I was like I want to expand it. And so >> I was like I want to expand it. And so >> red fish or whatever. >> red fish or whatever. >> red fish or whatever. >> Yeah. Those red bison guys. they were >> Yeah. Those red bison guys. they were >> Yeah. Those red bison guys. they were doing prop tech and doing prop tech and doing prop tech and >> I got fish. >> I got fish. >> I got fish. >> Yeah, red fish. Whatever. >> Yeah, red fish. Whatever. >> Yeah, red fish. Whatever. >> Um and so I was like, you know, I always >> Um and so I was like, you know, I always >> Um and so I was like, you know, I always wanted to go from smart building to wanted to go from smart building to wanted to go from smart building to smart city. And so I finally took the smart city. And so I finally took the smart city. And so I finally took the time and and and you know, it's cuz I'm time and and and you know, it's cuz I'm time and and and you know, it's cuz I'm an old-timer and other people probably an old-timer and other people probably an old-timer and other people probably don't think like this when they embark don't think like this when they embark don't think like this when they embark on some big engineering project with on some big engineering project with on some big engineering project with software and whatever, but I still it's software and whatever, but I still it's software and whatever, but I still it's like the database is for me was always like the database is for me was always like the database is for me was always the beginning of everything. It's the the beginning of everything. It's the the beginning of everything. It's the core of the system. And so at least in core of the system. And so at least in core of the system. And so at least in the old days and I still do it now. So the old days and I still do it now. So the old days and I still do it now. So shame on me. I got to design the shame on me. I got to design the shame on me. I got to design the database first, the data model and database first, the data model and database first, the data model and everything first and then everything everything first and then everything everything first and then everything else is derived from that. And so the else is derived from that. And so the else is derived from that. And so the next step would be REST APIs on top of next step would be REST APIs on top of next step would be REST APIs on top of that and then after that the user that and then after that the user that and then after that the user interface and all that right? And interface and all that right? And interface and all that right? And so uh anyway, so uh anyway, so uh anyway, >> no, we should we should definitely I >> no, we should we should definitely I >> no, we should we should definitely I mean I mean hell you're around. We mean I mean hell you're around. We mean I mean hell you're around. We should talk. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I I'd should talk. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I I'd should talk. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I I'd love to show you some of the stuff that love to show you some of the stuff that love to show you some of the stuff that we're doing we're doing we're doing >> and how we're how we're dealing with a >> and how we're how we're dealing with a >> and how we're how we're dealing with a lot of this a lot of this stuff now.

lot of this a lot of this stuff now. lot of this a lot of this stuff now. >> I mean, it continues to evolve. And >> I mean, it continues to evolve. And >> I mean, it continues to evolve. And that's the I probably, you know, I said that's the I probably, you know, I said that's the I probably, you know, I said it in a in a post uh towards the end of it in a in a post uh towards the end of it in a in a post uh towards the end of the year that you know when I say we did the year that you know when I say we did the year that you know when I say we did these things, it's the collective we I these things, it's the collective we I these things, it's the collective we I mean we have an ecosystem of partners mean we have an ecosystem of partners mean we have an ecosystem of partners that if they had not gotten behind us that if they had not gotten behind us that if they had not gotten behind us and pushed the way that they did, 2026 and pushed the way that they did, 2026 and pushed the way that they did, 2026 would not look the way it looks today. would not look the way it looks today. would not look the way it looks today. And you know it it's I think you know And you know it it's I think you know And you know it it's I think you know one I think that there's some some one I think that there's some some one I think that there's some some selfserving type thing that goes with selfserving type thing that goes with selfserving type thing that goes with you know being a co-founder, founder, you know being a co-founder, founder, you know being a co-founder, founder, business owner, whatever it is that kind business owner, whatever it is that kind business owner, whatever it is that kind of you know you want people to think of you know you want people to think of you know you want people to think that you guys did this. Uh the ecosystem that you guys did this. Uh the ecosystem that you guys did this. Uh the ecosystem is what the hell makes us move. Without is what the hell makes us move. Without is what the hell makes us move. Without that ecosystem, we're just a bunch of that ecosystem, we're just a bunch of that ecosystem, we're just a bunch of idea talkers and and uh you know, it's idea talkers and and uh you know, it's idea talkers and and uh you know, it's when they open up those opportunities when they open up those opportunities when they open up those opportunities that we get to truly deliver. That's that we get to truly deliver. That's that we get to truly deliver. That's where we shine. It's like all that stuff where we shine. It's like all that stuff where we shine. It's like all that stuff we were talking about, let me show you we were talking about, let me show you we were talking about, let me show you now. now. now. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I I think I mean, and we're students >> And I I think I mean, and we're students >> And I I think I mean, and we're students of technology. I I the way that we do of technology. I I the way that we do of technology. I I the way that we do things today is not the exact same way things today is not the exact same way things today is not the exact same way we did them 10 years ago, we did them 10 years ago, we did them 10 years ago, >> five years ago, four years ago. I mean, >> five years ago, four years ago. I mean, >> five years ago, four years ago. I mean, we change every single year where, okay, we change every single year where, okay, we change every single year where, okay, let's let's change this, let's change let's let's change this, let's change let's let's change this, let's change that. So, when you say that you start that. So, when you say that you start that. So, when you say that you start with, you know, we kind of have the same with, you know, we kind of have the same with, you know, we kind of have the same share the same thoughts. We start with, share the same thoughts. We start with, share the same thoughts. We start with, you know, our graph database is like you know, our graph database is like you know, our graph database is like >> where we kind of start. >> where we kind of start. >> where we kind of start. >> Yeah. Yeah. you know, um and whatever >> Yeah. Yeah. you know, um and whatever >> Yeah. Yeah. you know, um and whatever you guys can contribute to the the um you guys can contribute to the the um you guys can contribute to the the um elevate communities thing, we got to get elevate communities thing, we got to get elevate communities thing, we got to get real with that real with that real with that >> You know what I'm saying? >> You know what I'm saying? >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Got to start. I mean, you know, you guys >> Got to start. I mean, you know, you guys >> Got to start. I mean, you know, you guys are doing smart cities, but a lot of are doing smart cities, but a lot of are doing smart cities, but a lot of that stuff can translate into what we that stuff can translate into what we that stuff can translate into what we can can can >> I made sure cuz I was thinking about our >> I made sure cuz I was thinking about our >> I made sure cuz I was thinking about our our nonprofit and our elevate our nonprofit and our elevate our nonprofit and our elevate communities. I was making sure that it communities. I was making sure that it communities. I was making sure that it wasn't just city only. Uh it's it takes wasn't just city only. Uh it's it takes wasn't just city only. Uh it's it takes care of s states and counties and care of s states and counties and care of s states and counties and unincorporated areas and rural areas and unincorporated areas and rural areas and unincorporated areas and rural areas and and and and >> you know it's a you can go down a rabbit >> you know it's a you can go down a rabbit >> you know it's a you can go down a rabbit hole with this whole smart city or smart hole with this whole smart city or smart hole with this whole smart city or smart whatever thing um because there's the whatever thing um because there's the whatever thing um because there's the notion of there's there's it's a it's a notion of there's there's it's a it's a notion of there's there's it's a it's a group it's a grouping right you know I group it's a grouping right you know I group it's a grouping right you know I could you know country state county you could you know country state county you could you know country state county you know property building floor space you know property building floor space you know property building floor space you know you can do a lot with that and then know you can do a lot with that and then know you can do a lot with that and then there's things that traverse there's things that traverse there's things that traverse All that stuff, All that stuff, All that stuff, >> streets,

>> streets, >> streets, >> water, sewer, pipelines, electrical >> water, sewer, pipelines, electrical >> water, sewer, pipelines, electrical grids, grids, grids, >> and then rural what? Rivers, >> and then rural what? Rivers, >> and then rural what? Rivers, lakes, all kinds of stuff. And it's lakes, all kinds of stuff. And it's lakes, all kinds of stuff. And it's like, like, like, >> yeah, it's like how far do you want to >> yeah, it's like how far do you want to >> yeah, it's like how far do you want to go with that stuff? And so, you know, go with that stuff? And so, you know, go with that stuff? And so, you know, all of a sudden you're concerning all of a sudden you're concerning all of a sudden you're concerning yourself with um like polygons in your yourself with um like polygons in your yourself with um like polygons in your database to what's the shape of this database to what's the shape of this database to what's the shape of this thing or, you know, what does this road thing or, you know, what does this road thing or, you know, what does this road look like, you know, and where light, look like, you know, and where light, look like, you know, and where light, you know, obviously Bill did a lot of you know, obviously Bill did a lot of you know, obviously Bill did a lot of stuff in Palo Alto with signals, lights, stuff in Palo Alto with signals, lights, stuff in Palo Alto with signals, lights, you know, and and traffic and all that you know, and and traffic and all that you know, and and traffic and all that kind of stuff. kind of stuff. kind of stuff. >> It just it just depends on how far down >> It just it just depends on how far down >> It just it just depends on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go on a the rabbit hole you want to go on a the rabbit hole you want to go on a city, right? city, right? city, right? >> Well, it I I'll say 100% that. We >> Well, it I I'll say 100% that. We >> Well, it I I'll say 100% that. We literally have a K through 12 and higher literally have a K through 12 and higher literally have a K through 12 and higher ed vertical that that we address. We've ed vertical that that we address. We've ed vertical that that we address. We've been working with H.B.CU. We've been been working with H.B.CU. We've been been working with H.B.CU. We've been working with other schools. And it's the working with other schools. And it's the working with other schools. And it's the weird part about it is that it depends weird part about it is that it depends weird part about it is that it depends where in where in where in the the country you are uh as to whether the the country you are uh as to whether the the country you are uh as to whether or not that school district is going to or not that school district is going to or not that school district is going to allow certain things. Because if you allow certain things. Because if you allow certain things. Because if you want to do anything of of you know not want to do anything of of you know not want to do anything of of you know not only like you can help them in terms of only like you can help them in terms of only like you can help them in terms of access and training and you know access and training and you know access and training and you know information and stuff like that but information and stuff like that but information and stuff like that but keeping our kids safe is like number keeping our kids safe is like number keeping our kids safe is like number one. And you know but in order to do one. And you know but in order to do one. And you know but in order to do that you need as much information and that you need as much information and that you need as much information and data as possible. And now you got that

data as possible. And now you got that data as possible. And now you got that balancing act of privacy, balancing act of privacy, balancing act of privacy, security, you know, vision, AI, all of security, you know, vision, AI, all of security, you know, vision, AI, all of that stuff that stuff that stuff that that goes into it. But absolutely, that that goes into it. But absolutely, that that goes into it. But absolutely, I I I mean, K through 12 higher ed is is I I I mean, K through 12 higher ed is is I I I mean, K through 12 higher ed is is a a pillar of one of our uh areas of a a pillar of one of our uh areas of a a pillar of one of our uh areas of focus. focus. focus. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's good stuff. >> That's good stuff. >> That's good stuff. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean part of the >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean part of the >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean part of the effort of elevate our communities I effort of elevate our communities I effort of elevate our communities I think we should just um really try focus think we should just um really try focus think we should just um really try focus on what's essential and then you know on what's essential and then you know on what's essential and then you know rather than bo the boil the ocean rather than bo the boil the ocean rather than bo the boil the ocean approach figuring out what's lightweight approach figuring out what's lightweight approach figuring out what's lightweight essential and then start you know essential and then start you know essential and then start you know building you know defining what that building you know defining what that building you know defining what that blueprint looks like and then help blueprint looks like and then help blueprint looks like and then help communities with the scaffolding right communities with the scaffolding right communities with the scaffolding right um um um >> have to that end of that they have to be >> have to that end of that they have to be >> have to that end of that they have to be willing. That's the that's the that's willing. That's the that's the that's willing. That's the that's the that's the bigger hurdle you'll run into. the bigger hurdle you'll run into. the bigger hurdle you'll run into. >> That's a great word, scaffolding.

>> That's a great word, scaffolding. >> That's a great word, scaffolding. >> Cuz when I when I think about like just >> Cuz when I when I think about like just >> Cuz when I when I think about like just building that entity relationship building that entity relationship building that entity relationship diagram for cities and counties and and diagram for cities and counties and and diagram for cities and counties and and buildings and properties, that's what buildings and properties, that's what buildings and properties, that's what that is is scaffolding. It's generic on that is is scaffolding. It's generic on that is is scaffolding. It's generic on purpose and then you bring them all to purpose and then you bring them all to purpose and then you bring them all to life. This property is actually a campus life. This property is actually a campus life. This property is actually a campus for an elementary school and it has for an elementary school and it has for an elementary school and it has several buildings and it has all these several buildings and it has all these several buildings and it has all these rooms and a cafeteria and here's the rooms and a cafeteria and here's the rooms and a cafeteria and here's the office where you come in and it has office where you come in and it has office where you come in and it has these hallways and when you think about these hallways and when you think about these hallways and when you think about oh and that's like a template I'm going oh and that's like a template I'm going oh and that's like a template I'm going to use maybe to do safety in an to use maybe to do safety in an to use maybe to do safety in an elementary school or whatever you know elementary school or whatever you know elementary school or whatever you know name your thing name whatever it is you name your thing name whatever it is you name your thing name whatever it is you know. know. know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. >> Yeah. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. >> Yeah. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. >> It's going to be fun. We're going to >> It's going to be fun. We're going to >> It's going to be fun. We're going to have fun. We're gonna do some good have fun. We're gonna do some good have fun. We're gonna do some good things for people in 2026. Absolutely. things for people in 2026. Absolutely. things for people in 2026. Absolutely. >> Yeah. So, Merry New Year. >> Yeah. So, Merry New Year. >> Yeah. So, Merry New Year. >> Merry New Year. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, hilarious. Okay. >> So, hilarious. Okay. >> So, hilarious. Okay. >> Will you be Will you be heading to the >> Will you be Will you be heading to the >> Will you be Will you be heading to the city of brotherly love?

>> All right. >> All right. >> I still I still love it. You know, when >> I still I still love it. You know, when >> I still I still love it. You know, when you're in Philly and you're trying to go you're in Philly and you're trying to go you're in Philly and you're trying to go to pawn shop and sell your high-end to pawn shop and sell your high-end to pawn shop and sell your high-end watch, you know, it's like, "But sir, watch, you know, it's like, "But sir, watch, you know, it's like, "But sir, this watch goes down to three this watch goes down to three this watch goes down to three atmospheres and it's worth this much atmospheres and it's worth this much atmospheres and it's worth this much money in money in money in like that's great, but in Philadelphia like that's great, but in Philadelphia like that's great, but in Philadelphia it's worth 50 bucks." it's worth 50 bucks." it's worth 50 bucks." >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It can tell time simultaneously in New It can tell time simultaneously in New York, London, and God. York, London, and God. York, London, and God. >> God, >> that was like the first time I ever >> that was like the first time I ever heard of that place. I didn't even know. heard of that place. I didn't even know. heard of that place. I didn't even know. >> You know, we could probably just as >> You know, we could probably just as >> You know, we could probably just as easily have a whole show just based on easily have a whole show just based on easily have a whole show just based on movies and movie lines. movies and movie lines. movies and movie lines. >> Well, you can. The rest of us, >> Well, you can. The rest of us, >> Well, you can. The rest of us, >> you know, >> you know, >> you know, >> we have to be activated. Those Yeah, >> we have to be activated. Those Yeah, >> we have to be activated. Those Yeah, those those parameters have to be those those parameters have to be those those parameters have to be activated. You're like the good thing is activated. You're like the good thing is activated. You're like the good thing is as we worry about AI taking over what's as we worry about AI taking over what's as we worry about AI taking over what's real and what's not real. Luckily, we've real and what's not real. Luckily, we've real and what's not real. Luckily, we've been pre-trained on that been pre-trained on that been pre-trained on that >> because those movies are pseudo real to >> because those movies are pseudo real to >> because those movies are pseudo real to us.

us. us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, why would you have a >> You know, why would you have a >> You know, why would you have a lightsaber in your house if you didn't lightsaber in your house if you didn't lightsaber in your house if you didn't think Star Wars was, you know, kind of think Star Wars was, you know, kind of think Star Wars was, you know, kind of part of your life, you know? part of your life, you know? part of your life, you know? >> That's true. That's true. >> That's true. That's true. >> That's true. That's true. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> Yeah. You're a grown ass man. >> Yeah. You're a grown ass man. >> Yeah. You're a grown ass man. >> You're a grown ass man with a freaking >> You're a grown ass man with a freaking >> You're a grown ass man with a freaking lightsaber, you know. lightsaber, you know. lightsaber, you know. just in case. just in case. just in case. >> That's actually a pretty profound >> That's actually a pretty profound >> That's actually a pretty profound statement, dude. statement, dude. statement, dude. >> Right. It's about it's about meaning and >> Right. It's about it's about meaning and >> Right. It's about it's about meaning and things having meaning. It is about being things having meaning. It is about being things having meaning. It is about being >> and then it's associated with life and >> and then it's associated with life and >> and then it's associated with life and experience which is what experience which is what experience which is what >> trying to do with oh by the way trying >> trying to do with oh by the way trying >> trying to do with oh by the way trying to do with world models and I'll tell to do with world models and I'll tell to do with world models and I'll tell you I had some good conversation about you I had some good conversation about you I had some good conversation about world model world model world model >> that is going to be the next massive >> that is going to be the next massive >> that is going to be the next massive nonsense confused nonsense confused nonsense confused conversation for 2026 conversation for 2026 conversation for 2026 >> and um Yan Lun >> and um Yan Lun >> and um Yan Lun Lee and all these guys they are not Lee and all these guys they are not Lee and all these guys they are not doing anybody any favors even though I I doing anybody any favors even though I I doing anybody any favors even though I I think uh Fei, she tries to scale the think uh Fei, she tries to scale the think uh Fei, she tries to scale the conversation back a little bit and try conversation back a little bit and try conversation back a little bit and try to get people to think more sens to get people to think more sens to get people to think more sens sensibly about it. But the problem is is sensibly about it. But the problem is is sensibly about it. But the problem is is nobody understands what she's saying.

nobody understands what she's saying. nobody understands what she's saying. They're just looking at like these like They're just looking at like these like They're just looking at like these like what Nvidia typically does, these really what Nvidia typically does, these really what Nvidia typically does, these really amazingly animated and flashy uh amazingly animated and flashy uh amazingly animated and flashy uh computerenerated computerenerated computerenerated representations and then they representations and then they representations and then they misinterpret what they're what she's misinterpret what they're what she's misinterpret what they're what she's actually trying to tell them. And that's actually trying to tell them. And that's actually trying to tell them. And that's going to feed the hype engine and going to feed the hype engine and going to feed the hype engine and everyone's going to think that world everyone's going to think that world everyone's going to think that world models are easy or they're new. they're models are easy or they're new. they're models are easy or they're new. they're not really new and um it's gonna not really new and um it's gonna not really new and um it's gonna perpetuate the nonsense. So perpetuate the nonsense. So perpetuate the nonsense. So >> we will we are on our way to create a >> we will we are on our way to create a >> we will we are on our way to create a world model right now in a database. So world model right now in a database. So world model right now in a database. So it's going to happen. it's going to happen. it's going to happen. >> There's a company called Ancis. >> There's a company called Ancis. >> There's a company called Ancis. >> Oh, we all know ANCIS anyway. >> Oh, we all know ANCIS anyway. >> Oh, we all know ANCIS anyway. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They have the data. They have physics >> They have the data. They have physics >> They have the data. They have physics stuff. stuff. stuff. >> Well, we're going to have all that >> Well, we're going to have all that >> Well, we're going to have all that stuff, too. stuff, too. stuff, too. >> Yeah. Yeah, we'll have that Yeah, we'll have that >> anyway. >> anyway. >> anyway. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right.

>> All right. >> All right. >> So, you're gonna kick us out, man. >> So, you're gonna kick us out, man. >> So, you're gonna kick us out, man. Because Because Because >> thanks so much for all of you joining us >> thanks so much for all of you joining us >> thanks so much for all of you joining us on this special edition of IoT Coffee on this special edition of IoT Coffee on this special edition of IoT Coffee Talk CES edition, which is actually what Talk CES edition, which is actually what Talk CES edition, which is actually what is this like the third edition? is this like the third edition? is this like the third edition? >> Fifth, the fifth one this week. >> Fifth, the fifth one this week. >> Fifth, the fifth one this week. >> We have a bunch of them that probably >> We have a bunch of them that probably >> We have a bunch of them that probably need to be published. But now that but need to be published. But now that but need to be published. But now that but now that Leonard's home, he can do that. now that Leonard's home, he can do that. now that Leonard's home, he can do that. He can do his Dr. Dr. Dre production on He can do his Dr. Dr. Dre production on He can do his Dr. Dr. Dre production on those videos that we took in all kinds those videos that we took in all kinds those videos that we took in all kinds of locations. Um, and we also got kicked of locations. Um, and we also got kicked of locations. Um, and we also got kicked out of a restaurant. Uh, we closed down out of a restaurant. Uh, we closed down out of a restaurant. Uh, we closed down the restaurant. In fact, Del Frisco's the restaurant. In fact, Del Frisco's the restaurant. In fact, Del Frisco's >> by doing a coffee talk deal after your >> by doing a coffee talk deal after your >> by doing a coffee talk deal after your amazing dinner, Pete. amazing dinner, Pete. amazing dinner, Pete. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> That was amazing. That was really good. >> That was amazing. That was really good. >> That was amazing. That was really good. >> I You know you're doing it right when >> I You know you're doing it right when >> I You know you're doing it right when you're doing a coffee talk video and you're doing a coffee talk video and you're doing a coffee talk video and then the people come in and they're then the people come in and they're then the people come in and they're like, "Man, you guys got to get out of like, "Man, you guys got to get out of like, "Man, you guys got to get out of here. We're about to block the last ones here. We're about to block the last ones here. We're about to block the last ones in there. We're going to block off the in there. We're going to block off the in there. We're going to block off the entrances and if you're entrances and if you're entrances and if you're >> That's right. Yeah. They're going to >> That's right. Yeah. They're going to >> That's right. Yeah. They're going to lock us in, I think, for the lock us in, I think, for the lock us in, I think, for the >> Yeah. They're like, "You're screwed. You >> Yeah. They're like, "You're screwed. You >> Yeah. They're like, "You're screwed. You won't be able to lock the door." won't be able to lock the door." won't be able to lock the door." >> It was It was It was like Hotel >> It was It was It was like Hotel >> It was It was It was like Hotel California on us is what they were going California on us is what they were going California on us is what they were going to do.

to do. to do. >> Is that what they did? If you don't get >> Is that what they did? If you don't get >> Is that what they did? If you don't get your ass out, you're never going to get your ass out, you're never going to get your ass out, you're never going to get an Uber and you're going to have to an Uber and you're going to have to an Uber and you're going to have to >> Yeah, that's what that guy said. So, >> Yeah, that's what that guy said. So, >> Yeah, that's what that guy said. So, we're like, "Okay, let's wrap it up cuz we're like, "Okay, let's wrap it up cuz we're like, "Okay, let's wrap it up cuz everybody's pulling out their phone to everybody's pulling out their phone to everybody's pulling out their phone to get a Uber." Yeah, that was hilarious. get a Uber." Yeah, that was hilarious. get a Uber." Yeah, that was hilarious. Uh, Uh, Uh, >> we missed you, man. >> we missed you, man. >> we missed you, man. >> Yes. So, it's going to be awesome that >> Yes. So, it's going to be awesome that >> Yes. So, it's going to be awesome that we're going to have, you know, Leonard's we're going to have, you know, Leonard's we're going to have, you know, Leonard's going to publish what, three or four going to publish what, three or four going to publish what, three or four different CES things and they're all different CES things and they're all different CES things and they're all going to come blasting out across all going to come blasting out across all going to come blasting out across all channels. Uh, and so it's going to it's channels. Uh, and so it's going to it's channels. Uh, and so it's going to it's going to be awesome. Uh, I'm looking going to be awesome. Uh, I'm looking going to be awesome. Uh, I'm looking forward to we talked about so much. We forward to we talked about so much. We forward to we talked about so much. We saw so much. We got to see so many saw so much. We got to see so many saw so much. We got to see so many friends. Uh, which I think that was the friends. Uh, which I think that was the friends. Uh, which I think that was the best part, all the get togethers and the best part, all the get togethers and the best part, all the get togethers and the friends. That's by far the best part. friends. That's by far the best part. friends. That's by far the best part. Uh, and as our good friend who we've not Uh, and as our good friend who we've not Uh, and as our good friend who we've not seen in a while, but I know Pete saw him seen in a while, but I know Pete saw him seen in a while, but I know Pete saw him in Vegas, uh, Steve Rummer. you know, he in Vegas, uh, Steve Rummer. you know, he in Vegas, uh, Steve Rummer. you know, he always but he's always really clear always but he's always really clear always but he's always really clear about the importance of going to things about the importance of going to things about the importance of going to things like CES from his perspective. It's a like CES from his perspective. It's a like CES from his perspective. It's a lot of people it's a business thing and lot of people it's a business thing and lot of people it's a business thing and he goes, I know that all my customers he goes, I know that all my customers he goes, I know that all my customers and partners are all going to be there and partners are all going to be there and partners are all going to be there at that time and it's the best way for at that time and it's the best way for at that time and it's the best way for all of us to get together versus flying all of us to get together versus flying all of us to get together versus flying all over across the country for all over across the country for all over across the country for meetings. Um, and so yeah, it makes meetings. Um, and so yeah, it makes meetings. Um, and so yeah, it makes perfect sense. Absolutely.

perfect sense. Absolutely. perfect sense. Absolutely. >> Yeah. Yeah. I only hope that >> Yeah. Yeah. I only hope that >> Yeah. Yeah. I only hope that >> I only hope that Steve got to go to >> I only hope that Steve got to go to >> I only hope that Steve got to go to Seagull's, you know, bagel place that he Seagull's, you know, bagel place that he Seagull's, you know, bagel place that he loves so much because it's the best. loves so much because it's the best. loves so much because it's the best. >> Yeah, we missed you, Steve. >> Yeah, we missed you, Steve. >> Yeah, we missed you, Steve. >> Yeah, I wish I had more time with him. >> Yeah, I wish I had more time with him. >> Yeah, I wish I had more time with him. That's That's That's >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> I bumped into him in front of Eureka >> I bumped into him in front of Eureka >> I bumped into him in front of Eureka Park, but I had to go I had to go to a Park, but I had to go I had to go to a Park, but I had to go I had to go to a um a meeting. So, um a meeting. So, um a meeting. So, >> a thing. >> a thing. >> a thing. >> Yeah. Park is Steve's jam. That's his >> Yeah. Park is Steve's jam. That's his >> Yeah. Park is Steve's jam. That's his favorite thing. favorite thing. favorite thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right, guys. >> All right, guys. >> All right, guys. >> All right. you next time. >> All right. you next time. >> All right. you next time. >> By we'll see you on the other side.