IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 233 - The Perpetual Pivot Cycle

[Applause] [Applause] want it that's need want it that's need want it that's need it any way you want it any way you want it any way you want it and Demetri's light show I it and Demetri's light show I it and Demetri's light show I appreciated the yeah you gotta get the appreciated the yeah you gotta get the appreciated the yeah you gotta get the smoke hooked up man got the smoke smoke hooked up man got the smoke smoke hooked up man got the smoke machine yeah actually actually actually machine yeah actually actually actually machine yeah actually actually actually do you remind me I need to take it take do you remind me I need to take it take do you remind me I need to take it take it out for for Halloween so I do have it out for for Halloween so I do have it out for for Halloween so I do have there you go smoke machine I mine in my there you go smoke machine I mine in my there you go smoke machine I mine in my garage I need to get mine out too yeah garage I need to get mine out too yeah garage I need to get mine out too yeah um so yeah the reason why we I played um so yeah the reason why we I played um so yeah the reason why we I played that song for Bad karaoke which we that song for Bad karaoke which we that song for Bad karaoke which we always start off with um just to break always start off with um just to break always start off with um just to break the ice right just to set a level out the ice right just to set a level out the ice right just to set a level out ridiculous and then work our way either ridiculous and then work our way either ridiculous and then work our way either down or up from there I don't know way down or up from there I don't know way down or up from there I don't know way we never know which way it goes right we never know which way it goes right we never know which way it goes right guys yeah we need we need a new guys yeah we need we need a new guys yeah we need we need a new expression at I break because AI is expression at I break because AI is expression at I break because AI is doing that for us so H butt breaker uh anyway uh you so H butt breaker uh anyway uh you didn't hear that from me anyways didn't hear that from me anyways didn't hear that from me anyways everyone welcome to iot Coffee Talk uh everyone welcome to iot Coffee Talk uh everyone welcome to iot Coffee Talk uh remember we do this for the kids um remember we do this for the kids um remember we do this for the kids um Elevate our kids elevator kids.org just Elevate our kids elevator kids.org just Elevate our kids elevator kids.org just go there and donate we're trying to help go there and donate we're trying to help go there and donate we're trying to help Bridge the digital Equity divide for Bridge the digital Equity divide for Bridge the digital Equity divide for kids one one uh K through 1 through 12 K kids one one uh K through 1 through 12 K kids one one uh K through 1 through 12 K through 12 and underserved and unserved through 12 and underserved and unserved through 12 and underserved and unserved communities and keep in mind we've been communities and keep in mind we've been communities and keep in mind we've been having a lot of disasters lately right having a lot of disasters lately right having a lot of disasters lately right we're trying to get into Lina still we're trying to get into Lina still we're trying to get into Lina still trying to help that Community but now we

trying to help that Community but now we trying to help that Community but now we we've set our sights on um the southern we've set our sights on um the southern we've set our sights on um the southern east coast um eastern part of the east coast um eastern part of the east coast um eastern part of the country where they've been ravaged by country where they've been ravaged by country where they've been ravaged by storms and so you know we're trying to storms and so you know we're trying to storms and so you know we're trying to keep those communities in mind and the keep those communities in mind and the keep those communities in mind and the fact that they're probably going to need fact that they're probably going to need fact that they're probably going to need a lot of help and yes a lot of help and yes a lot of help and yes connectivity and the digital divide connectivity and the digital divide connectivity and the digital divide became very real for a lot of those became very real for a lot of those became very real for a lot of those communities and think about all those communities and think about all those communities and think about all those kids who uh weren't able to learn and uh kids who uh weren't able to learn and uh kids who uh weren't able to learn and uh attend school so you know uh donate you attend school so you know uh donate you attend school so you know uh donate you know help us help them and then be part know help us help them and then be part know help us help them and then be part of the the solution uh the charity to of the the solution uh the charity to of the the solution uh the charity to bridge the digital divide so anyway uh bridge the digital divide so anyway uh bridge the digital divide so anyway uh and also we have really cool swag just and also we have really cool swag just and also we have really cool swag just go to the site go to the site go to the site www. elevator kids.org we have T-shirts www. elevator kids.org we have T-shirts www. elevator kids.org we have T-shirts hoodies and you guys will all worn my hoodies and you guys will all worn my hoodies and you guys will all worn my hoodie today I mean it's like yeah I hoodie today I mean it's like yeah I hoodie today I mean it's like yeah I should have got my Pacific Northwest should have got my Pacific Northwest should have got my Pacific Northwest sweater going on but I I didn't do my sweater going on but I I didn't do my sweater going on but I I didn't do my hoodie yeah you will look sexy so and hoodie yeah you will look sexy so and hoodie yeah you will look sexy so and you know what we're trying to bring sexy you know what we're trying to bring sexy you know what we're trying to bring sexy back for back for back for iot is you know I think AI stuff is too iot is you know I think AI stuff is too iot is you know I think AI stuff is too sexy it's way too sexy it's way too sexy it's way too sexy what's up guys other than Apple sexy what's up guys other than Apple sexy what's up guys other than Apple intelligence everyone get their upgrade intelligence everyone get their upgrade intelligence everyone get their upgrade everyone got their upgrade you know any everyone got their upgrade you know any everyone got their upgrade you know any way you want it that's the way you need

way you want it that's the way you need way you want it that's the way you need it that's right any way you want it yes it that's right any way you want it yes it that's right any way you want it yes I haven't noticed anything yet on my I haven't noticed anything yet on my I haven't noticed anything yet on my upgrade I mean my everything on my phone upgrade I mean my everything on my phone upgrade I mean my everything on my phone seems to be the same but I right yeah seems to be the same but I right yeah seems to be the same but I right yeah something's happening in the background something's happening in the background something's happening in the background some in I haven't either but I'm I'm some in I haven't either but I'm I'm some in I haven't either but I'm I'm personally very happy because finally personally very happy because finally personally very happy because finally somebody is the courage to not call it somebody is the courage to not call it somebody is the courage to not call it artificial intelligence but seriously but seriously intelligence but seriously but seriously it's app I think it's a different it's app I think it's a different it's app I think it's a different positioning and I think it's probably positioning and I think it's probably positioning and I think it's probably care carefully thought about Apple care carefully thought about Apple care carefully thought about Apple because I want to try to associate that because I want to try to associate that because I want to try to associate that to the brand and not to say oh it's AI to the brand and not to say oh it's AI to the brand and not to say oh it's AI so it's a no it's uh whoever the so it's a no it's uh whoever the so it's a no it's uh whoever the marketing person is who figured out AI marketing person is who figured out AI marketing person is who figured out AI equals Apple intelligence should get a equals Apple intelligence should get a equals Apple intelligence should get a little little bonus yeah extra extra little little bonus yeah extra extra little little bonus yeah extra extra extra condo in Lake extra condo in Lake extra condo in Lake Tahoe yeah I agree oh my God so Tahoe yeah I agree oh my God so Tahoe yeah I agree oh my God so expensive on the side you know on the expensive on the side you know on the expensive on the side you know on the Nevada side um I haven't noticed Nevada side um I haven't noticed Nevada side um I haven't noticed anything yet on the on the phone I'm anything yet on the on the phone I'm anything yet on the on the phone I'm waiting for for something to happen but waiting for for something to happen but waiting for for something to happen but um I haven't really experimented with it um I haven't really experimented with it um I haven't really experimented with it yet so we'll see yeah I mean you know yet so we'll see yeah I mean you know yet so we'll see yeah I mean you know I've already made some you know posts on I've already made some you know posts on I've already made some you know posts on it uh uh yeah it's just it's whatever it uh uh yeah it's just it's whatever it uh uh yeah it's just it's whatever you know what I'm saying it's what I you know what I'm saying it's what I you know what I'm saying it's what I thought it would be which is it's just a thought it would be which is it's just a thought it would be which is it's just a occasional tool that you'll use it's not occasional tool that you'll use it's not occasional tool that you'll use it's not that great it'll be helpful in C certain that great it'll be helpful in C certain that great it'll be helpful in C certain things but I find I always have to things but I find I always have to things but I find I always have to validate the outputs and this goes I validate the outputs and this goes I validate the outputs and this goes I mean you know I really I I try to make mean you know I really I I try to make mean you know I really I I try to make everyone understand I am not picking on everyone understand I am not picking on everyone understand I am not picking on Apple everybody else's has the same

Apple everybody else's has the same Apple everybody else's has the same problem if you dig under the covers okay problem if you dig under the covers okay problem if you dig under the covers okay you look under the covers all of them you look under the covers all of them you look under the covers all of them have this limitation Apple has not have this limitation Apple has not have this limitation Apple has not solved the issues the technical issues solved the issues the technical issues solved the issues the technical issues with so you know but I think it's like with so you know but I think it's like with so you know but I think it's like uh AI is sort of creeping into uh AI is sort of creeping into uh AI is sort of creeping into everything that we're doing whether we everything that we're doing whether we everything that we're doing whether we want it or not it's showing up in our want it or not it's showing up in our want it or not it's showing up in our you know streaming experiences our you know streaming experiences our you know streaming experiences our phones our phones our phones our PCS the the agent the Delta agent that I PCS the the agent the Delta agent that I PCS the the agent the Delta agent that I ask stuff for about you know it's it's ask stuff for about you know it's it's ask stuff for about you know it's it's going to it's just showing up everywhere going to it's just showing up everywhere going to it's just showing up everywhere and I was talking to someone the other and I was talking to someone the other and I was talking to someone the other day in the in the the foundation tiny M day in the in the the foundation tiny M day in the in the the foundation tiny M foundation and the partner was like yeah foundation and the partner was like yeah foundation and the partner was like yeah it's like having AI your chips these it's like having AI your chips these it's like having AI your chips these days it's so what I mean everyone has days it's so what I mean everyone has days it's so what I mean everyone has everyone has AI acceleration in their everyone has AI acceleration in their everyone has AI acceleration in their silicon that's now just kind of common silicon that's now just kind of common silicon that's now just kind of common the issue is what do you do with it the issue is what do you do with it the issue is what do you do with it that's useful oh yeah hey David what's that's useful oh yeah hey David what's that's useful oh yeah hey David what's up yeah up yeah up yeah exactly that's that's kind of the next exactly that's that's kind of the next exactly that's that's kind of the next Frontier now that it's sort of washed Frontier now that it's sort of washed Frontier now that it's sort of washed over everything uh now can actually use over everything uh now can actually use over everything uh now can actually use it in a differentiated way that's that's it in a differentiated way that's that's it in a differentiated way that's that's useful and so we'll see yeah we see yeah useful and so we'll see yeah we see yeah useful and so we'll see yeah we see yeah um I hey David what's up man uh I don't um I hey David what's up man uh I don't um I hey David what's up man uh I don't know I mean Demitri what's what what know I mean Demitri what's what what know I mean Demitri what's what what have been your what have been your have been your what have been your have been your what have been your impressions so far with apple and I I impressions so far with apple and I I impressions so far with apple and I I haven't I haven't had a chance to look haven't I haven't had a chance to look haven't I haven't had a chance to look at to test it in details but but the at to test it in details but but the at to test it in details but but the keyn note what struck me is the features keyn note what struck me is the features keyn note what struck me is the features around you know being able to to take around you know being able to to take around you know being able to to take notes and do search with photos because notes and do search with photos because notes and do search with photos because I do that all the time so very visual

I do that all the time so very visual I do that all the time so very visual person so I take pictures of things so person so I take pictures of things so person so I take pictures of things so the ability to ract take notes and the ability to ract take notes and the ability to ract take notes and knowledge more effective way using that knowledge more effective way using that knowledge more effective way using that is very is very appealing to me so is very is very appealing to me so is very is very appealing to me so that's I was I've just unfortunately that's I was I've just unfortunately that's I was I've just unfortunately been a little bit busy in the past weeks been a little bit busy in the past weeks been a little bit busy in the past weeks plus uh bringing people say you you plus uh bringing people say you you plus uh bringing people say you you whatever happened in Vegas stays in whatever happened in Vegas stays in whatever happened in Vegas stays in Vegas that's true except for covid so oh Vegas that's true except for covid so oh Vegas that's true except for covid so oh no yeah yeah it was not a bad one but I no yeah yeah it was not a bad one but I no yeah yeah it was not a bad one but I brought a little Co so intelligence can brought a little Co so intelligence can brought a little Co so intelligence can do something about helping me not do something about helping me not do something about helping me not getting Co any anymore Z I'm happy oh we getting Co any anymore Z I'm happy oh we getting Co any anymore Z I'm happy oh we we we that was the original episode that we we that was the original episode that we we that was the original episode that we had for iot coffee talk is how do you we had for iot coffee talk is how do you we had for iot coffee talk is how do you use use use iot um to get better visibility on the iot um to get better visibility on the iot um to get better visibility on the spread of uh Co so yeah I think you use spread of uh Co so yeah I think you use spread of uh Co so yeah I think you use apple intelligence I think if it can apple intelligence I think if it can apple intelligence I think if it can detect where you've been and all these detect where you've been and all these detect where you've been and all these places and sitting on the plane it would places and sitting on the plane it would places and sitting on the plane it would pop up a little message saying hey dude pop up a little message saying hey dude pop up a little message saying hey dude you're about to get you're about to get you're about to get Co but you know what to some extent Co but you know what to some extent Co but you know what to some extent actually I I I I think when we had you actually I I I I think when we had you actually I I I I think when we had you know the peak of the pandemic where we know the peak of the pandemic where we know the peak of the pandemic where we had this alert system about you you had this alert system about you you had this alert system about you you being close to people I think that was being close to people I think that was being close to people I think that was great why the heck did they remove that great why the heck did they remove that great why the heck did they remove that I mean that was great because of I mean that was great because of I mean that was great because of politics um I know nobody was interested politics um I know nobody was interested politics um I know nobody was interested in looking for the you know and and it in looking for the you know and and it in looking for the you know and and it it's funny that these yeah these it's funny that these yeah these it's funny that these yeah these retroactive uh these retroactive uh these retroactive uh these retroactive retroactive retroactive um um um retroactivo thing it's like oh you know

retroactivo thing it's like oh you know retroactivo thing it's like oh you know what it was all those measures were away what it was all those measures were away what it was all those measures were away it's like look in New York we had like it's like look in New York we had like it's like look in New York we had like freaking we had morgs in the parking freaking we had morgs in the parking freaking we had morgs in the parking lots of hospitals yeah was you know I I lots of hospitals yeah was you know I I lots of hospitals yeah was you know I I mean it just astonishes me that people mean it just astonishes me that people mean it just astonishes me that people forget how terrible the onset of this forget how terrible the onset of this forget how terrible the onset of this thing was and in Italy Spain wiped out a thing was and in Italy Spain wiped out a thing was and in Italy Spain wiped out a whole generation of people and those are whole generation of people and those are whole generation of people and those are grandparents who take care of kids and grandparents who take care of kids and grandparents who take care of kids and provide oh it's just the insensitivity provide oh it's just the insensitivity provide oh it's just the insensitivity it just and the the the lack of U memory it just and the the the lack of U memory it just and the the the lack of U memory and remembering how terrible this stuff and remembering how terrible this stuff and remembering how terrible this stuff was if you go under Reddit you go under was if you go under Reddit you go under was if you go under Reddit you go under Reddit there's a subreddit called the Reddit there's a subreddit called the Reddit there's a subreddit called the Herman Kane award and they uh they they Herman Kane award and they uh they they Herman Kane award and they uh they they issue this award to people that it's issue this award to people that it's issue this award to people that it's basically like yeah covid no big deal basically like yeah covid no big deal basically like yeah covid no big deal blah blah blah and then they die like blah blah blah and then they die like blah blah blah and then they die like they get Co and die so they give them they get Co and die so they give them they get Co and die so they give them the prous Le instead of the Darwin Award the prous Le instead of the Darwin Award the prous Le instead of the Darwin Award it's called the Herman Kane award so on it's called the Herman Kane award so on it's called the Herman Kane award so on that leopards ate my face is one of my that leopards ate my face is one of my that leopards ate my face is one of my favorite subreddits I long to say I'll favorite subreddits I long to say I'll favorite subreddits I long to say I'll have to check that one out okay what's have to check that one out okay what's have to check that one out okay what's that about Z my face Herman Kane award that about Z my face Herman Kane award that about Z my face Herman Kane award yeah some good concept of you know a yeah some good concept of you know a yeah some good concept of you know a person that will have very strong and person that will have very strong and person that will have very strong and opinionated belief about something and opinionated belief about something and opinionated belief about something and then the opposite happens to them so for then the opposite happens to them so for then the opposite happens to them so for example like like no there's no covid example like like no there's no covid example like like no there's no covid and then they die of covid or or no this and then they die of covid or or no this and then they die of covid or or no this is low voltage

grab grab that leopards ate my face subreddit okay that leopards ate my face subreddit okay that leopards ate my face subreddit okay I think I'm famous for I'm famous for I think I'm famous for I'm famous for I think I'm famous for I'm famous for said that but I love natural selection said that but I love natural selection said that but I love natural selection so but there was you know there was um L so but there was you know there was um L so but there was you know there was um L to your point I I just looked it up um I to your point I I just looked it up um I to your point I I just looked it up um I have an app called uh code red uh that have an app called uh code red uh that have an app called uh code red uh that it's um and I think it was uh for Co but it's um and I think it was uh for Co but it's um and I think it was uh for Co but you know it uses the location on the you know it uses the location on the you know it uses the location on the mobile device tell you you've been in a mobile device tell you you've been in a mobile device tell you you've been in a cluster of anything but it also does cluster of anything but it also does cluster of anything but it also does like you know weather alerts and and like you know weather alerts and and like you know weather alerts and and Community alerts uh so um what else Community alerts uh so um what else Community alerts uh so um what else remember everyone started remember everyone started remember everyone started deploying uh some sort of um tablet deploying uh some sort of um tablet deploying uh some sort of um tablet connected to either infrared or connected to either infrared or connected to either infrared or temperature sensor so you can come oh temperature sensor so you can come oh temperature sensor so you can come oh yeah yeah yeah you know read your temp yeah yeah yeah you know read your temp yeah yeah yeah you know read your temp yeah actually based on the body yeah actually based on the body yeah actually based on the body temperature so so that would be a used temperature so so that would be a used temperature so so that would be a used case of iot so we got we got to get case of iot so we got we got to get case of iot so we got we got to get there read the body temperature of there read the body temperature of there read the body temperature of people around me and then alert me that people around me and then alert me that people around me and then alert me that this person has a fever over here so this person has a fever over here so this person has a fever over here so stay away from that person actually that stay away from that person actually that stay away from that person actually that I mean you know if you think about it I mean you know if you think about it I mean you know if you think about it that helped I mean I think we really that helped I mean I think we really that helped I mean I think we really discount the uh and undervalue the discount the uh and undervalue the discount the uh and undervalue the impact that some of these measures had impact that some of these measures had impact that some of these measures had you know and I'm just surprised there you know and I'm just surprised there you know and I'm just surprised there wasn't more Innovation especially when wasn't more Innovation especially when wasn't more Innovation especially when they were you know uh setting up these they were you know uh setting up these they were you know uh setting up these popup um popup um what do you call it popup um popup um what do you call it popup um popup um what do you call it hospitals and and well you don't want to hospitals and and well you don't want to hospitals and and well you don't want to call them isolation centers but that's call them isolation centers but that's call them isolation centers but that's that's basically what it was um but to

that's basically what it was um but to that's basically what it was um but to be able to connect them right and then be able to connect them right and then be able to connect them right and then provide at least some uh you know level provide at least some uh you know level provide at least some uh you know level of U Digital support for these these of U Digital support for these these of U Digital support for these these facilities that are oftentimes out in facilities that are oftentimes out in facilities that are oftentimes out in the parking lot or out in a field the parking lot or out in a field the parking lot or out in a field somewhere yeah uh being able to quickly somewhere yeah uh being able to quickly somewhere yeah uh being able to quickly scale these things up I think these are scale these things up I think these are scale these things up I think these are great capabilities and I don't know great capabilities and I don't know great capabilities and I don't know whether or not we've learned anything whether or not we've learned anything whether or not we've learned anything other than you know uh other than you know uh other than you know uh I don't know I mean what was our I don't know I mean what was our I don't know I mean what was our reaction hey let's go and reaction hey let's go and reaction hey let's go and manufacture but but you know what I manufacture but but you know what I manufacture but but you know what I think n95 Max you know well I see a lot think n95 Max you know well I see a lot think n95 Max you know well I see a lot of people wearing masks is just more of of people wearing masks is just more of of people wearing masks is just more of a habit these days than than I used you a habit these days than than I used you a habit these days than than I used you know I well the thing is I I think a know I well the thing is I I think a know I well the thing is I I think a bunch of people you know I was just bunch of people you know I was just bunch of people you know I was just telling one of my kids the other day I telling one of my kids the other day I telling one of my kids the other day I think postco uh people have found out think postco uh people have found out think postco uh people have found out that you know there are other cultures that you know there are other cultures that you know there are other cultures that are used to wearing masks to that are used to wearing masks to that are used to wearing masks to protect other people so if I have a cold protect other people so if I have a cold protect other people so if I have a cold I will wear a mask because I don't want I will wear a mask because I don't want I will wear a mask because I don't want to give it to you right if my breath to give it to you right if my breath to give it to you right if my breath smells pretty bad because I just had smells pretty bad because I just had smells pretty bad because I just had lunch at lunch at lunch at the no all of us have been in a the no all of us have been in a the no all of us have been in a conference it happens and they approach conference it happens and they approach conference it happens and they approach you and you just want to die you would you and you just want to die you would you and you just want to die you would appreciate that person or that's the appreciate that person or that's the appreciate that person or that's the natural business selection right there natural business selection right there natural business selection right there that's yes but I don't want to do that's yes but I don't want to do that's yes but I don't want to do business with you you smell exactly well business with you you smell exactly well business with you you smell exactly well no I mean for me very selfishly for me I no I mean for me very selfishly for me I no I mean for me very selfishly for me I mean how many of you guys have mean how many of you guys have mean how many of you guys have experienced the flatulence issue on

experienced the flatulence issue on experienced the flatulence issue on planes on plan oh yeah all the time oh planes on plan oh yeah all the time oh planes on plan oh yeah all the time oh my God oh my God you know and that's my God oh my God you know and that's my God oh my God you know and that's where they need to that's that that where they need to that's that that where they need to that's that that should be solved through technology should be solved through technology should be solved through technology that's a yes I I was an early proponent that's a yes I I was an early proponent that's a yes I I was an early proponent of a very simple lowend not a lot of of a very simple lowend not a lot of of a very simple lowend not a lot of processing but a vibration sensor on the processing but a vibration sensor on the processing but a vibration sensor on the seat and then ejection system of this e the and then ejection system of this e the little light comes on the little light little light comes on the little light little light comes on the little light comes on over but guys in this case In comes on over but guys in this case In comes on over but guys in this case In fairness it's fairness it's fairness it's physics no physics because you have a physics no physics because you have a physics no physics because you have a lower pressure inside so if you have lower pressure inside so if you have lower pressure inside so if you have higher pressure inside you have a higher pressure inside you have a higher pressure inside you have a problem there so I mean it's not that problem there so I mean it's not that problem there so I mean it's not that the person is not careful no I'm sorry the person is not careful no I'm sorry the person is not careful no I'm sorry it's not that the person is not careful it's not that the person is not careful it's not that the person is not careful now you might want to manage that better now you might want to manage that better now you might want to manage that better and go to the bathroom and try to fix do and go to the bathroom and try to fix do and go to the bathroom and try to fix do you need better bathroom in Planes okay you need better bathroom in Planes okay you need better bathroom in Planes okay and you oh you need a higher throughput and you oh you need a higher throughput and you oh you need a higher throughput on the on the recycling of the air which on the on the recycling of the air which on the on the recycling of the air which takes more energy which lowers their so takes more energy which lowers their so takes more energy which lowers their so lowers their profits the smartest thing lowers their profits the smartest thing lowers their profits the smartest thing would be to actually adapt the would be to actually adapt the would be to actually adapt the ventilation system so that you may be Su ventilation system so that you may be Su ventilation system so that you may be Su no no no so I'll let you I'll let you no no no so I'll let you I'll let you no no no so I'll let you I'll let you guys in a secret this is how you so the guys in a secret this is how you so the guys in a secret this is how you so the mask good first phase defense right mask good first phase defense right mask good first phase defense right second thing you do you know that little second thing you do you know that little second thing you do you know that little the the uh your little directional air the the uh your little directional air the the uh your little directional air right yeah have to come right down on right yeah have to come right down on right yeah have to come right down on your face oh yeah to your face and then

your face oh yeah to your face and then your face oh yeah to your face and then you create what's equivalent to like you you create what's equivalent to like you you create what's equivalent to like you know in get smart they had the con of know in get smart they had the con of know in get smart they had the con of Silence yeah right that's like the Silence yeah right that's like the Silence yeah right that's like the antiflatulent con of sign but also I antiflatulent con of sign but also I antiflatulent con of sign but also I always always crank the air right on always always crank the air right on always always crank the air right on youed air right it's air so even with Co youed air right it's air so even with Co youed air right it's air so even with Co and other diseases or whatever and other diseases or whatever and other diseases or whatever the yeah just blows it creates a defense the yeah just blows it creates a defense the yeah just blows it creates a defense Shield run good travel Shield run good travel Shield run good travel tip it also increase your duration so tip it also increase your duration so tip it also increase your duration so drink plenty of drink plenty of drink plenty of water more Woodford whiskey that's what water more Woodford whiskey that's what water more Woodford whiskey that's what you need to have Bill your your timing you need to have Bill your your timing you need to have Bill your your timing is perfect we're talking about farting is perfect we're talking about farting is perfect we're talking about farting on planes yeah that is not a thing that is not a thing you must be thing that is not a thing you must be that guy then that cause you to get that guy then that cause you to get that guy then that cause you to get truly embarrassed I'm that I'm that one truly embarrassed I'm that I'm that one truly embarrassed I'm that I'm that one person that would stand up and go who person that would stand up and go who person that would stand up and go who the hell did that I'm gonna let everyone know no don't act I'm gonna let everyone know no don't act like you don't smell it don't act like like you don't smell it don't act like like you don't smell it don't act like you didn't hear it you know who you are you didn't hear it you know who you are you didn't hear it you know who you are stand the up and own own so talking about the real problems own so talking about the real problems I'm sorry hey these are real I'm sorry hey these are real I'm sorry hey these are real problems let's be truthful and we were problems let's be truthful and we were problems let's be truthful and we were talking about those apps that that you talking about those apps that that you talking about those apps that that you know allows you or give you information know allows you or give you information know allows you or give you information about potentially sick people around you about potentially sick people around you about potentially sick people around you so you have this new app let's say that so you have this new app let's say that so you have this new app let's say that of the

of the of the guy location tracker kind of a he he is guy location tracker kind of a he he is guy location tracker kind of a he he is a new mization system for Airlines you a new mization system for Airlines you a new mization system for Airlines you know sell you higher prices for seats know sell you higher prices for seats know sell you higher prices for seats where you're less likely to be sitting where you're less likely to be sitting where you're less likely to be sitting close to somebody that do that no instead of a no smoking section that no instead of a no smoking section there's a no no pay extra for that well there's a no no pay extra for that well there's a no no pay extra for that well I'm I'm just going to turn the methane I'm I'm just going to turn the methane I'm I'm just going to turn the methane sensor on my phone on and we'll find out sensor on my phone on and we'll find out sensor on my phone on and we'll find out who the hell it yeah I agree methane who the hell it yeah I agree methane who the hell it yeah I agree methane sensor definitely that's iPhone 19 I sensor definitely that's iPhone 19 I sensor definitely that's iPhone 19 I think is coming oh we can we can recycle think is coming oh we can we can recycle think is coming oh we can we can recycle that new source of Revenue that new source of Revenue that new source of Revenue maintain but these are you know so what maintain but these are you know so what maintain but these are you know so what we were originally talking about before we were originally talking about before we were originally talking about before we got on this disgusting topic was um we got on this disgusting topic was um we got on this disgusting topic was um iot and how it was used dur because you iot and how it was used dur because you iot and how it was used dur because you know um Demitri got you got covid right know um Demitri got you got covid right know um Demitri got you got covid right yeah and how we're we're just doing like yeah and how we're we're just doing like yeah and how we're we're just doing like a retrospective on how iot technology a retrospective on how iot technology a retrospective on how iot technology and solutions were used to help you know and solutions were used to help you know and solutions were used to help you know get some visibility on where the spread get some visibility on where the spread get some visibility on where the spread was where the risk areas were so that we was where the risk areas were so that we was where the risk areas were so that we can we can make decisions to protect can we can make decisions to protect can we can make decisions to protect ourselves right if you don't have the ourselves right if you don't have the ourselves right if you don't have the visibility it's the classic iot thing if visibility it's the classic iot thing if visibility it's the classic iot thing if you don't have visibility you don't know you don't have visibility you don't know you don't have visibility you don't know what to do you can't make decisions you what to do you can't make decisions you what to do you can't make decisions you can't act you can't uh you can't do can't act you can't uh you can't do can't act you can't uh you can't do prevent stuff right I mean that's what prevent stuff right I mean that's what prevent stuff right I mean that's what iot is all about so that's how we got iot is all about so that's how we got iot is all about so that's how we got onto this weird weird weird weird topic onto this weird weird weird weird topic onto this weird weird weird weird topic bill here here's you leaned in dude you

bill here here's you leaned in dude you bill here here's you leaned in dude you just like freaking leaned in like you just like freaking leaned in like you just like freaking leaned in like you owned owned owned it farted on the plane yes here's it farted on the plane yes here's it farted on the plane yes here's talking off about you know in the talking off about you know in the talking off about you know in the context of uh all of the well first of context of uh all of the well first of context of uh all of the well first of all all of the covid iot solutions all all of the covid iot solutions all all of the covid iot solutions already existed they just got repurposed already existed they just got repurposed already existed they just got repurposed so let's just start there yeah yeah I so let's just start there yeah yeah I so let's just start there yeah yeah I doubt was covid iot innovation of things doubt was covid iot innovation of things doubt was covid iot innovation of things that we've never seen before it was just that we've never seen before it was just that we've never seen before it was just to repurpose which is good they found a to repurpose which is good they found a to repurpose which is good they found a market yes yeah exactly but you know I market yes yeah exactly but you know I market yes yeah exactly but you know I know in the past I think we've all know in the past I think we've all know in the past I think we've all talked about uh about avoiding Point talked about uh about avoiding Point talked about uh about avoiding Point Solutions because they're pointless you Solutions because they're pointless you Solutions because they're pointless you know they're for a moment in time and know they're for a moment in time and know they're for a moment in time and then they go away and I think a ton of then they go away and I think a ton of then they go away and I think a ton of that because you know so Bill I gave the that because you know so Bill I gave the that because you know so Bill I gave the example of uh you know um Peak covid example of uh you know um Peak covid example of uh you know um Peak covid still all these venues for the play this still all these venues for the play this still all these venues for the play this uh displaying some sort of tablet with a uh displaying some sort of tablet with a uh displaying some sort of tablet with a temperature sensor and you will get temperature sensor and you will get temperature sensor and you will get close to it reach your temperature green close to it reach your temperature green close to it reach your temperature green or red sort of thing where are they now or red sort of thing where are they now or red sort of thing where are they now where are they when's the last time where are they when's the last time where are they when's the last time there there's no need for them until the there there's no need for them until the there there's no need for them until the next pandemic right ex exactly them next pandemic right ex exactly them next pandemic right ex exactly them there so you know all these things got there so you know all these things got there so you know all these things got uh you know they just went away and in a uh you know they just went away and in a uh you know they just went away and in a good way hopefully they don't have to good way hopefully they don't have to good way hopefully they don't have to they don't have to come back but what they don't have to come back but what they don't have to come back but what triggered my memory was uh you know triggered my memory was uh you know triggered my memory was uh you know talking about uh the whole temperature talking about uh the whole temperature talking about uh the whole temperature sensor there was a company uh here in sensor there was a company uh here in sensor there was a company uh here in Oregon called flare systems if anyone's Oregon called flare systems if anyone's Oregon called flare systems if anyone's done anything infrared in the last 20

done anything infrared in the last 20 done anything infrared in the last 20 years you know them they got bought out years you know them they got bought out years you know them they got bought out and these guys were um the first time I and these guys were um the first time I and these guys were um the first time I had a conversation of putting a thing on had a conversation of putting a thing on had a conversation of putting a thing on a drone was over there now it was from a drone was over there now it was from a drone was over there now it was from an an an agricultural use case but you know this agricultural use case but you know this agricultural use case but you know this is something that um when it comes to in is something that um when it comes to in is something that um when it comes to in for it for it for it Hardware Co gave it such a boost because Hardware Co gave it such a boost because Hardware Co gave it such a boost because it worked the thing was really good I it worked the thing was really good I it worked the thing was really good I reading temperatures right even though reading temperatures right even though reading temperatures right even though it was for walls and metals and it was for walls and metals and it was for walls and metals and Industrial environments hey you know Industrial environments hey you know Industrial environments hey you know what we're just meat and what we're just meat and what we're just meat and water hey you know like do you remember water hey you know like do you remember water hey you know like do you remember uh the all the robotic crazy robotic uh the all the robotic crazy robotic uh the all the robotic crazy robotic stuff that they were doing in Asia stuff that they were doing in Asia stuff that they were doing in Asia especially in China and Taiwan and in especially in China and Taiwan and in especially in China and Taiwan and in South Korea um to basically um clean or South Korea um to basically um clean or South Korea um to basically um clean or uh what do you call it they they're the uh what do you call it they they're the uh what do you call it they they're the sanitize name yeah sanitization robots sanitize name yeah sanitization robots sanitize name yeah sanitization robots yeah they just do uh they just repurpose yeah they just do uh they just repurpose yeah they just do uh they just repurpose those to uh become hosts in restaurants those to uh become hosts in restaurants those to uh become hosts in restaurants and server and server and server robots so if you go to Taiwan you go to robots so if you go to Taiwan you go to robots so if you go to Taiwan you go to like Denai fun or whatever one of these like Denai fun or whatever one of these like Denai fun or whatever one of these massive like uh a buffet or you know massive like uh a buffet or you know massive like uh a buffet or you know those crazy massive mass production type those crazy massive mass production type those crazy massive mass production type restaurants you have these robots restaurants you have these robots restaurants you have these robots running all over the place it's crazy running all over the place it's crazy running all over the place it's crazy right so um but I guess you know the right so um but I guess you know the right so um but I guess you know the lesson learned here is if you have

lesson learned here is if you have lesson learned here is if you have something it finds a moment you always something it finds a moment you always something it finds a moment you always just have to figure out what is that just have to figure out what is that just have to figure out what is that next moment and anticipate it and that next moment and anticipate it and that next moment and anticipate it and that that and so you know uh and you have to that and so you know uh and you have to that and so you know uh and you have to balance that against the longevity balance that against the longevity balance that against the longevity problem right that in any moment people problem right that in any moment people problem right that in any moment people are looking for longevity and how do you are looking for longevity and how do you are looking for longevity and how do you make that happen um that's that's tough make that happen um that's that's tough make that happen um that's that's tough man that's a really tough dynamic in iot man that's a really tough dynamic in iot man that's a really tough dynamic in iot I think I don't know what do you guys I think I don't know what do you guys I think I don't know what do you guys think well no I think I think you're think well no I think I think you're think well no I think I think you're right and it gives and it gives space right and it gives and it gives space right and it gives and it gives space and this this is a salesmanship and this this is a salesmanship and this this is a salesmanship perspective I think from uh the perspective I think from uh the perspective I think from uh the representative of that technology of representative of that technology of representative of that technology of that solution if they really understand that solution if they really understand that solution if they really understand the market and they're honest with their the market and they're honest with their the market and they're honest with their customers they had that conversation customers they had that conversation customers they had that conversation early on I didn't know you were ever early on I didn't know you were ever early on I didn't know you were ever going to need this thing I don't know going to need this thing I don't know going to need this thing I don't know how long you're going to need it for but how long you're going to need it for but how long you're going to need it for but here it is because at the time I keep here it is because at the time I keep here it is because at the time I keep using back the the temperature sensor it using back the the temperature sensor it using back the the temperature sensor it was something needed if you if you were was something needed if you if you were was something needed if you if you were open for business you needed to do open for business you needed to do open for business you needed to do something to check people at some time something to check people at some time something to check people at some time so it was a necessary business expense so it was a necessary business expense so it was a necessary business expense where budget was going to be allocated where budget was going to be allocated where budget was going to be allocated 100% of the time but once that moment 100% of the time but once that moment 100% of the time but once that moment went away I don't want it I don't need went away I don't want it I don't need went away I don't want it I don't need it there's no use H who d don't like f it there's no use H who d don't like f it there's no use H who d don't like f and an airplane yeah but the thing is I and an airplane yeah but the thing is I and an airplane yeah but the thing is I think one of the things is all these think one of the things is all these think one of the things is all these Solutions were kind of put together very Solutions were kind of put together very Solutions were kind of put together very quickly you know to solve these problems quickly you know to solve these problems quickly you know to solve these problems and and now now people have figured out

and and now now people have figured out and and now now people have figured out how to do some of these things end to how to do some of these things end to how to do some of these things end to end and and some of them will get end and and some of them will get end and and some of them will get repurposed into other you know uses long repurposed into other you know uses long repurposed into other you know uses long term I mean look at what we're doing term I mean look at what we're doing term I mean look at what we're doing here with with you know video here with with you know video here with with you know video conferencing is one of the great conferencing is one of the great conferencing is one of the great examples of where that got hyper examples of where that got hyper examples of where that got hyper accelerated for Co and now it's really accelerated for Co and now it's really accelerated for Co and now it's really stuck and I think a lot of these iot stuck and I think a lot of these iot stuck and I think a lot of these iot Solutions once they figure out out how Solutions once they figure out out how Solutions once they figure out out how to do them yeah maybe maybe the stores to do them yeah maybe maybe the stores to do them yeah maybe maybe the stores don't need exactly need them like that don't need exactly need them like that don't need exactly need them like that but that that stuff will get repurposed but that that stuff will get repurposed but that that stuff will get repurposed and so it was kind of you know Co was a and so it was kind of you know Co was a and so it was kind of you know Co was a hyper accelerator for bringing hyper accelerator for bringing hyper accelerator for bringing Technology Solutions together you Technology Solutions together you Technology Solutions together you whether or stick or not it doesn't whether or stick or not it doesn't whether or stick or not it doesn't matter but I think it was really matter but I think it was really matter but I think it was really interesting to see that and and and that interesting to see that and and and that interesting to see that and and and that that'll happen unfortunately it was is that'll happen unfortunately it was is that'll happen unfortunately it was is during a very dire time but um you know during a very dire time but um you know during a very dire time but um you know these like the the like sensors like I these like the the like sensors like I these like the the like sensors like I work with a lot of sensor companies a work with a lot of sensor companies a work with a lot of sensor companies a lot of sensors out there and now the lot of sensors out there and now the lot of sensors out there and now the sensors have like you know running AI sensors have like you know running AI sensors have like you know running AI models and and things like that and you models and and things like that and you models and and things like that and you know you said methane sensors all kinds know you said methane sensors all kinds know you said methane sensors all kinds of sensors they're out there they're of sensors they're out there they're of sensors they're out there they're ready to be commercialized you know they ready to be commercialized you know they ready to be commercialized you know they just looking for and sometimes those just looking for and sometimes those just looking for and sometimes those Solutions are that kind of Niche you Solutions are that kind of Niche you Solutions are that kind of Niche you know kind of manufacturing Solutions but know kind of manufacturing Solutions but know kind of manufacturing Solutions but more and more broadly you're going to more and more broadly you're going to more and more broadly you're going to see this stuff you know rolling out see this stuff you know rolling out see this stuff you know rolling out there with more sensors and more there with more sensors and more there with more sensors and more capabilities to understand what's going capabilities to understand what's going capabilities to understand what's going on so see I'm telling you this is why on so see I'm telling you this is why on so see I'm telling you this is why people have to watch iot coffee talk people have to watch iot coffee talk people have to watch iot coffee talk because we might have stumbled on a huge because we might have stumbled on a huge because we might have stumbled on a huge market for M sensors market for M sensors market for M sensors in Cabin you know in Cabin flatulence in in Cabin you know in Cabin flatulence in in Cabin you know in Cabin flatulence in in an airplane I mean it's a real thing in an airplane I mean it's a real thing in an airplane I mean it's a real thing in the ad in the ad space house yeah

in the ad in the ad space house yeah in the ad in the ad space house yeah it's a real thing it messes up the the it's a real thing it messes up the the it's a real thing it messes up the the environment I think you have a little I environment I think you have a little I environment I think you have a little I think you have a little uh Bluetooth the think you have a little uh Bluetooth the think you have a little uh Bluetooth the coin cell battery powered Bluetooth coin cell battery powered Bluetooth coin cell battery powered Bluetooth methane sensor that you take with you methane sensor that you take with you methane sensor that you take with you you travel you sell it to The Travelers you travel you sell it to The Travelers you travel you sell it to The Travelers and and you take it on the plane with and and you take it on the plane with and and you take it on the plane with you and it it it'll notify your phone you and it it it'll notify your phone you and it it it'll notify your phone when it it you know detects iing stuff when it it you know detects iing stuff when it it you know detects iing stuff right there I mean I can do right there I mean I can do right there I mean I can do thats and then you have the little your thats and then you have the little your thats and then you have the little your fragrance dispenser connected to yeah fragrance dispenser connected to yeah fragrance dispenser connected to yeah yeah as an option you know PES out a yeah as an option you know PES out a yeah as an option you know PES out a little fresh fresh whatever that stuff little fresh fresh whatever that stuff little fresh fresh whatever that stuff is called is called is called whenever I would just build a predictive whenever I would just build a predictive whenever I would just build a predictive model into it so that when people were model into it so that when people were model into it so that when people were walking by I could tell and be like look walking by I could tell and be like look walking by I could tell and be like look man hold that till you get I don't know man hold that till you get I don't know man hold that till you get I don't know hallucinations going on there yeah yeah hallucinations going on there yeah yeah hallucinations going on there yeah yeah no no no but here another thing to no no no but here another thing to no no no but here another thing to consider here some of the goofiest stuff consider here some of the goofiest stuff consider here some of the goofiest stuff finds the hugest Market okay don't I finds the hugest Market okay don't I finds the hugest Market okay don't I mean you know as ridiculous and stupid mean you know as ridiculous and stupid mean you know as ridiculous and stupid as some of what we're talking about as some of what we're talking about as some of what we're talking about sound there is a market trous market for sound there is a market trous market for sound there is a market trous market for a little USB you plug it into the back a little USB you plug it into the back a little USB you plug it into the back seat USB port and that's like your seat USB port and that's like your seat USB port and that's like your little right there Chet what the hell is little right there Chet what the hell is little right there Chet what the hell is a Chet a Chet a Chet Chia yeah I mean no no offense to the Chia yeah I mean no no offense to the Chia yeah I mean no no offense to the people who invented the Chia Pet but I people who invented the Chia Pet but I people who invented the Chia Pet but I mean I'm serious like freaking M Chi CH mean I'm serious like freaking M Chi CH mean I'm serious like freaking M Chi CH pet you know what I'm saying about pet

pet you know what I'm saying about pet pet you know what I'm saying about pet rocks yeah Pet Rocks yeah mon buy them and people bought Pet yeah mon buy them and people bought Pet Rocks I don't have to tend to it I can Rocks I don't have to tend to it I can Rocks I don't have to tend to it I can just set it on my desk that's my pet just set it on my desk that's my pet just set it on my desk that's my pet rock I bet we could set up a we could rock I bet we could set up a we could rock I bet we could set up a we could set up a website with this little fart set up a website with this little fart set up a website with this little fart monitor USB fart monitor Bluetooth yes monitor USB fart monitor Bluetooth yes monitor USB fart monitor Bluetooth yes and I bet we could count how many orders and I bet we could count how many orders and I bet we could count how many orders we're on a daily basis I do a we're on a daily basis I do a we're on a daily basis I do a Kickstarter simply we Kickstart it and you know and I think it will be it and you know and I think it will be really easy to put a road map together really easy to put a road map together really easy to put a road map together you know first one is just you know you know first one is just you know you know first one is just you know straight up you know sensor straight up you know sensor straight up you know sensor alert yeah V V2 with a sensor will have alert yeah V V2 with a sensor will have alert yeah V V2 with a sensor will have some like directionality like it'll give some like directionality like it'll give some like directionality like it'll give you an app to the left or to the right you an app to the left or to the right you an app to the left or to the right that's right yeah who did it yes and that's right yeah who did it yes and that's right yeah who did it yes and then then then done it done it three really cool UI done it done it three really cool UI done it done it three really cool UI where you put your your assignment on where you put your your assignment on where you put your your assignment on this point right it'll talk to your app this point right it'll talk to your app this point right it'll talk to your app and then it tell you that the person who and then it tell you that the person who and then it tell you that the person who farted is on 16d yes it no farted is on 16d yes it no farted is on 16d yes it no you the Pokemon uh that is that is that you the Pokemon uh that is that is that you the Pokemon uh that is that is that isn't that the mobile app with the the isn't that the mobile app with the the isn't that the mobile app with the the AR yeah ex how you do it finding the AR yeah ex how you do it finding the AR yeah ex how you do it finding the ball identifies and then you can ball identifies and then you can ball identifies and then you can subjugate people to you know in in subjugate people to you know in in subjugate people to you know in in vilification and that'll that'll end the vilification and that'll that'll end the vilification and that'll that'll end the but see that's another example of where but see that's another example of where but see that's another example of where a tool like that can just completely a tool like that can just completely a tool like that can just completely eradicate the situation and then then eradicate the situation and then then eradicate the situation and then then you have the the vend have to think you have the the vend have to think you have the the vend have to think about the next pivot right so then as I

about the next pivot right so then as I about the next pivot right so then as I was thinking about that the next pivot was thinking about that the next pivot was thinking about that the next pivot is that you put a f rating scoring is that you put a f rating scoring is that you put a f rating scoring system and then you can sell that to the system and then you can sell that to the system and then you can sell that to the Chinese so they can rank people for the Chinese so they can rank people for the Chinese so they can rank people for the social you know social you know social you know Godus on your score I was thinking Godus on your score I was thinking Godus on your score I was thinking consum like packs as a exactly mened got consum like packs as a exactly mened got consum like packs as a exactly mened got to get the refills at the Hudson you but to get the refills at the Hudson you but to get the refills at the Hudson you but as silly is all again as silly as this as silly is all again as silly as this as silly is all again as silly as this sounds just go to sounds just go to sounds just go to CES I yeah I'm sure someone's got a 10 CES I yeah I'm sure someone's got a 10 CES I yeah I'm sure someone's got a 10 by1 with this product in there yeah no by1 with this product in there yeah no by1 with this product in there yeah no you see you see you see some we should collect 10% for Elevate some we should collect 10% for Elevate some we should collect 10% for Elevate our kids who our kids who our kids who yeah make money out of it so we are yeah make money out of it so we are yeah make money out of it so we are serious about that if you use idea we serious about that if you use idea we serious about that if you use idea we will go after you no seriously if anyone will go after you no seriously if anyone will go after you no seriously if anyone has survived up to this point in this has survived up to this point in this has survived up to this point in this conversation I think um I know that Ed conversation I think um I know that Ed conversation I think um I know that Ed he's the CEO of Delta he he listens to he's the CEO of Delta he he listens to he's the CEO of Delta he he listens to this show every week I don't think he's this show every week I don't think he's this show every week I don't think he's ever missed a single episode we love to ever missed a single episode we love to ever missed a single episode we love to have him have him have him on see if he's got any concerns see on see if he's got any concerns see on see if he's got any concerns see let's bounce this idea off him you know let's bounce this idea off him you know let's bounce this idea off him you know yes just we just want to hear feedback yes just we just want to hear feedback yes just we just want to hear feedback and see what he thinks and uh we'll be and see what he thinks and uh we'll be and see what he thinks and uh we'll be happy to have him on yeah we can even happy to have him on yeah we can even happy to have him on yeah we can even have a Delta branded version that I mean have a Delta branded version that I mean have a Delta branded version that I mean the Platinum Medallion people can get the Platinum Medallion people can get the Platinum Medallion people can get one for well if you if you read crossing one for well if you if you read crossing one for well if you if you read crossing the chasm for all business venture you the chasm for all business venture you the chasm for all business venture you have to focus on the specific Market have to focus on the specific Market have to focus on the specific Market segment initially so I think you had segment initially so I think you had segment initially so I think you had Light House customer Target already I

Light House customer Target already I Light House customer Target already I think competing Val you proposition for think competing Val you proposition for think competing Val you proposition for him so Diamond Medallion but we will him so Diamond Medallion but we will him so Diamond Medallion but we will have to get the data Diva involved in have to get the data Diva involved in have to get the data Diva involved in this because of course like with any this because of course like with any this because of course like with any technology there are huge privacy technology there are huge privacy technology there are huge privacy implications so um you know true yeah implications so um you know true yeah implications so um you know true yeah but but but is there a propensity a higher is there a propensity a higher is there a propensity a higher propensity to fight say if you fly Delta propensity to fight say if you fly Delta propensity to fight say if you fly Delta versus versus versus Spirit depends on what they're serving Spirit depends on what they're serving Spirit depends on what they're serving in the airport and in in the airport and in in the airport and in Cabin L you mean the big Spirit doesn't Cabin L you mean the big Spirit doesn't Cabin L you mean the big Spirit doesn't even serve anything so youan a big even serve anything so youan a big even serve anything so youan a big billboard our customers fart less you know what we can blame all of less you know what we can blame all of this on Dimitri this on Dimitri this on Dimitri um that in the uh Med app when they book um that in the uh Med app when they book um that in the uh Med app when they book tickets there's like a little fart score tickets there's like a little fart score tickets there's like a little fart score for each Airline and you can for each Airline and you can for each Airline and you can see infinite possibilities we need to see infinite possibilities we need to see infinite possibilities we need to close the subject yeah close the subject yeah close the subject yeah no silly is incredibly inspirational so no silly is incredibly inspirational so no silly is incredibly inspirational so hey Bill what's up man hey Bill what's up man hey Bill what's up man um doing doing things man I mean um doing doing things man I mean um doing doing things man I mean yesterday just had a had a had a a nice yesterday just had a had a had a a nice yesterday just had a had a had a a nice webinar with uh the municipal webinar with uh the municipal webinar with uh the municipal Information Information Information Systems uh consorti so misac which is uh Systems uh consorti so misac which is uh Systems uh consorti so misac which is uh built up of predominantly the leaders in built up of predominantly the leaders in built up of predominantly the leaders in cities and things like that uh all cities and things like that uh all cities and things like that uh all across California um so it was uh myself across California um so it was uh myself across California um so it was uh myself and Rudolfo rundo the CIO from Coral and Rudolfo rundo the CIO from Coral and Rudolfo rundo the CIO from Coral Gables which I I firmly believe is

Gables which I I firmly believe is Gables which I I firmly believe is unequivocally the smartest city in North America as a whole as a Coral Gables America as a whole as a Coral Gables Coral Gables wow can you elaborate on Coral Gables wow can you elaborate on Coral Gables wow can you elaborate on what they've deployed or I mean they you what they've deployed or I mean they you what they've deployed or I mean they you name it they've done it they've got name it they've done it they've got name it they've done it they've got smart polls they've got traffic smart polls they've got traffic smart polls they've got traffic monitoring they've they engage with the monitoring they've they engage with the monitoring they've they engage with the community they have an open portal you community they have an open portal you community they have an open portal you can access their digital twin through can access their digital twin through can access their digital twin through the open portal uh they partnered with the open portal uh they partnered with the open portal uh they partnered with um University of Miami and and they have um University of Miami and and they have um University of Miami and and they have their own software development team their own software development team their own software development team inside Coral Gables well that makes inside Coral Gables well that makes inside Coral Gables well that makes sense I mean it it's so they're they're sense I mean it it's so they're they're sense I mean it it's so they're they're yeah it's a differentiator for yeah it's a differentiator for yeah it's a differentiator for them you were saying like what's the them you were saying like what's the them you were saying like what's the name of the organization you were name of the organization you were name of the organization you were talking about me what's called misac misac because there's also like the omf misac because there's also like the omf open Mobility Foundation there's like open Mobility Foundation there's like open Mobility Foundation there's like its it seems like there's a lot of these its it seems like there's a lot of these its it seems like there's a lot of these organizations that are trying to do organizations that are trying to do organizations that are trying to do Municipal Tech consortiums I've seen Municipal Tech consortiums I've seen Municipal Tech consortiums I've seen them yeah yeah yeah no Pac is big they them yeah yeah yeah no Pac is big they them yeah yeah yeah no Pac is big they they've got well over a thousand members they've got well over a thousand members they've got well over a thousand members um they've been around for a while for um they've been around for a while for um they've been around for a while for quite a while they were like member quite a while they were like member quite a while they were like member member only you know only the city could member only you know only the city could member only you know only the city could be there and now they've kind of uh be there and now they've kind of uh be there and now they've kind of uh shifted over to say hey look we need to shifted over to say hey look we need to shifted over to say hey look we need to start engaging start engaging start engaging gsna um and uh I mean look go go to uh I

gsna um and uh I mean look go go to uh I gsna um and uh I mean look go go to uh I dropped it in in the chat I want you dropped it in in the chat I want you dropped it in in the chat I want you guys to go take a look at it because guys to go take a look at it because guys to go take a look at it because I've know the while we worked we did a I've know the while we worked we did a I've know the while we worked we did a lot of things things together um you lot of things things together um you lot of things things together um you know in in collaboration with nist and know in in collaboration with nist and know in in collaboration with nist and everything like that oh wow and uh I everything like that oh wow and uh I everything like that oh wow and uh I mean the stuff that they were doing or mean the stuff that they were doing or mean the stuff that they were doing or that they are doing and where they're that they are doing and where they're that they are doing and where they're headed uh with respect to how they're headed uh with respect to how they're headed uh with respect to how they're leveraging uh geni and they they've got leveraging uh geni and they they've got leveraging uh geni and they they've got it it it closed what do you mean by that they closed what do you mean by that they closed what do you mean by that they have it have it have it closed no they they they're they're closed no they they they're they're closed no they they they're they're they're um ridicul um they I mean they're just they ridicul um they I mean they're just they are just phenomenal phenomenal I mean are just phenomenal phenomenal I mean are just phenomenal phenomenal I mean and the team that he's built uh I was I and the team that he's built uh I was I and the team that he's built uh I was I was out there a while back and went was out there a while back and went was out there a while back and went through their new uh Center where all through their new uh Center where all through their new uh Center where all you you walk into this room and it's you you walk into this room and it's you you walk into this room and it's First Responders and dispatch all First Responders and dispatch all First Responders and dispatch all together in one room with it h together in one room with it h together in one room with it h yeah um I mean there's there's one one yeah um I mean there's there's one one yeah um I mean there's there's one one quick story um they had a they had a quick story um they had a they had a quick story um they had a they had a crowd so they have cameras everywhere crowd so they have cameras everywhere crowd so they have cameras everywhere over there they have cameras everywhere over there they have cameras everywhere over there they have cameras everywhere they respect privacy really and they've they respect privacy really and they've they respect privacy really and they've got a full privacy I mean everything but got a full privacy I mean everything but got a full privacy I mean everything but the the cameras are for Public Safety so the the cameras are for Public Safety so the the cameras are for Public Safety so they were having an event and um a woman they were having an event and um a woman they were having an event and um a woman lost her lost her

lost her lost her lost her lost her daughter they they went to the First daughter they they went to the First daughter they they went to the First Responders and everything they went Responders and everything they went Responders and everything they went through and be because of their machine through and be because of their machine through and be because of their machine their computer vision and machine their computer vision and machine their computer vision and machine learning and everything that they've got learning and everything that they've got learning and everything that they've got there they were they asked the woman there they were they asked the woman there they were they asked the woman what color was your daughter wearing what color was your daughter wearing what color was your daughter wearing they took went back to the video pulled they took went back to the video pulled they took went back to the video pulled out everyone else except people that out everyone else except people that out everyone else except people that were wearing that color they located the were wearing that color they located the were wearing that color they located the woman's daughter in less than five woman's daughter in less than five woman's daughter in less than five minutes wow that's awesome that's minutes wow that's awesome that's minutes wow that's awesome that's impressive I mean that's tech for good impressive I mean that's tech for good impressive I mean that's tech for good if ever there was uh any right yeah yeah if ever there was uh any right yeah yeah if ever there was uh any right yeah yeah um wow so um wow so um wow so yeah I don't see AI in here it just says yeah I don't see AI in here it just says yeah I don't see AI in here it just says I love this it says business I love this it says business I love this it says business intelligence information technology and intelligence information technology and intelligence information technology and tools which I think a lot of people tools which I think a lot of people tools which I think a lot of people bundle the stuff now into AI you know bundle the stuff now into AI you know bundle the stuff now into AI you know because no one talks about bi because no one talks about bi because no one talks about bi anymore no I mean it's it's you know one anymore no I mean it's it's you know one anymore no I mean it's it's you know one of the one of the things I mean I I of the one of the things I mean I I of the one of the things I mean I I might I might give him a call man we might I might give him a call man we might I might give him a call man we should have him on should have him on should have him on yeah that'd be great I mean it's always yeah that'd be great I mean it's always yeah that'd be great I mean it's always awesome to to you know see a awesome to to you know see a awesome to to you know see a municipality doing the right thing or um municipality doing the right thing or um municipality doing the right thing or um having their act together um on all this having their act together um on all this having their act together um on all this smart City stuff you know it's such a smart City stuff you know it's such a smart City stuff you know it's such a challenge' be really interesting a lot challenge' be really interesting a lot challenge' be really interesting a lot of the stuff that they did everyone kept of the stuff that they did everyone kept of the stuff that they did everyone kept asking them you know how did you do it asking them you know how did you do it asking them you know how did you do it how did you do it he said well we're how did you do it he said well we're how did you do it he said well we're gonna open source our

gonna open source our gonna open source our code and and and and that wasn't quite code and and and and that wasn't quite code and and and and that wasn't quite right the right thing to do because most right the right thing to do because most right the right thing to do because most cities not that advanced they don't have cities not that advanced they don't have cities not that advanced they don't have their own software developers they their own software developers they their own software developers they they're not writing their own apis and they're not writing their own apis and they're not writing their own apis and everything like that so they kept everything like that so they kept everything like that so they kept calling him for support and he was like calling him for support and he was like calling him for support and he was like nope and he took everything down I said nope and he took everything down I said nope and he took everything down I said you need you need someone else to to you need you need someone else to to you need you need someone else to to partner with uh to kind of you know work partner with uh to kind of you know work partner with uh to kind of you know work those things out um but I mean the stuff those things out um but I mean the stuff those things out um but I mean the stuff that they're doing is just it's it's that they're doing is just it's it's that they're doing is just it's it's phenomenal actually to tell you the phenomenal actually to tell you the phenomenal actually to tell you the truth man I think um I think people truth man I think um I think people truth man I think um I think people should start thinking about bringing should start thinking about bringing should start thinking about bringing those competencies inhouse at least a those competencies inhouse at least a those competencies inhouse at least a certain capacity you know there's some certain capacity you know there's some certain capacity you know there's some some industries that just went way some industries that just went way some industries that just went way overboard and getting rid of all their overboard and getting rid of all their overboard and getting rid of all their infrastructure folks and then they infrastructure folks and then they infrastructure folks and then they regretted it right because all of a regretted it right because all of a regretted it right because all of a sudden infr they realize it's not just sudden infr they realize it's not just sudden infr they realize it's not just about the applications in SAS well we about the applications in SAS well we about the applications in SAS well we still need infrastructure right and and still need infrastructure right and and still need infrastructure right and and we need to have the competence we need to have the competence we need to have the competence uh to uh not only uh deploy uh to uh not only uh deploy uh to uh not only uh deploy infrastructure but to M maintain it infrastructure but to M maintain it infrastructure but to M maintain it evolve it but then even certain evolve it but then even certain evolve it but then even certain applications you should have somebody applications you should have somebody applications you should have somebody who knows what they're doing but more who knows what they're doing but more who knows what they're doing but more importantly an architect who can manage importantly an architect who can manage importantly an architect who can manage the road map so that they can um they the road map so that they can um they the road map so that they can um they can manage the longevity of the city's can manage the longevity of the city's can manage the longevity of the city's infrastructure right farming out fishing infrastructure right farming out fishing infrastructure right farming out fishing out to to

out to to out to to folks you know 100% is not the right way folks you know 100% is not the right way folks you know 100% is not the right way but having advisors I mean you know but having advisors I mean you know but having advisors I mean you know that's not to say you don't have that's not to say you don't have that's not to say you don't have advisors but there should be somebody advisors but there should be somebody advisors but there should be somebody within the organization that knows what within the organization that knows what within the organization that knows what they're doing and owns the outcomes they're doing and owns the outcomes they're doing and owns the outcomes right um well yeah there's a there is a right um well yeah there's a there is a right um well yeah there's a there is a a manage service a manage service a manage service overhead if you know absolutely and overhead if you know absolutely and overhead if you know absolutely and there's all kinds of nonsense you have there's all kinds of nonsense you have there's all kinds of nonsense you have to deal with that kind of stuff but to deal with that kind of stuff but to deal with that kind of stuff but bringing accountability inhouse can do bringing accountability inhouse can do bringing accountability inhouse can do wonders yeah I mean you control your own wonders yeah I mean you control your own wonders yeah I mean you control your own des and I mean and it took him it took des and I mean and it took him it took des and I mean and it took him it took him 15 years to get here so think about him 15 years to get here so think about him 15 years to get here so think about he was he was that early in thinking he was he was that early in thinking he was he was that early in thinking about here's how we're GNA do this and about here's how we're GNA do this and about here's how we're GNA do this and here's where we're gonna go SS here's where we're gonna go SS here's where we're gonna go SS like and then to to have the mindset of like and then to to have the mindset of like and then to to have the mindset of we're not GNA Outsource our thinking we're not GNA Outsource our thinking we're not GNA Outsource our thinking yeah I'm like I'm like 100% Applause you yeah I'm like I'm like 100% Applause you yeah I'm like I'm like 100% Applause you know this is uh this is impressive and know this is uh this is impressive and know this is uh this is impressive and it doesn't you know a lot of people are it doesn't you know a lot of people are it doesn't you know a lot of people are like like like you know you know you know um they're not they're not accept no um they're not they're not accept no um they're not they're not accept no they're they're one he's 100% accept they're they're one he's 100% accept they're they're one he's 100% accept he's like you got something new to show he's like you got something new to show he's like you got something new to show me talk to me about it let's let's see me talk to me about it let's let's see me talk to me about it let's let's see oh oh oh yeah Bill do you know if they have any yeah Bill do you know if they have any yeah Bill do you know if they have any uh so with all the data they're uh so with all the data they're uh so with all the data they're capturing like I'm actually on their capturing like I'm actually on their capturing like I'm actually on their rgis Map There's super cool is there uh rgis Map There's super cool is there uh rgis Map There's super cool is there uh are they putting out apis for the public are they putting out apis for the public are they putting out apis for the public that wants to yeah okay that's cool I that wants to yeah okay that's cool I that wants to yeah okay that's cool I think um someone will correct me in this

think um someone will correct me in this think um someone will correct me in this but I think Denmark was one of the first but I think Denmark was one of the first but I think Denmark was one of the first cities that did this had this concept cities that did this had this concept cities that did this had this concept back in uh 2008 where they were back in uh 2008 where they were back in uh 2008 where they were deploying you know sensors for projects deploying you know sensors for projects deploying you know sensors for projects and they figure like hey if anyone wants and they figure like hey if anyone wants and they figure like hey if anyone wants to use this data for the betterment of to use this data for the betterment of to use this data for the betterment of the community uh here it is just tell us the community uh here it is just tell us the community uh here it is just tell us what you're gonna do with it sort of what you're gonna do with it sort of what you're gonna do with it sort of thing and uh and have at it uh so it's thing and uh and have at it uh so it's thing and uh and have at it uh so it's super cool to you know see it here G super cool to you know see it here G super cool to you know see it here G good there yeah I mean good there yeah I mean good there yeah I mean um yeah it's um yeah it'd be kind of um yeah it's um yeah it'd be kind of um yeah it's um yeah it'd be kind of cool I mean his background is awesome cool I mean his background is awesome cool I mean his background is awesome you know what I'm saying I you know what I'm saying I you know what I'm saying I mean what's his name Romando ramundo Roo mean what's his name Romando ramundo Roo mean what's his name Romando ramundo Roo ramundo yeah I mean he looks like ramundo yeah I mean he looks like ramundo yeah I mean he looks like somebody who's actually delivered stuff somebody who's actually delivered stuff somebody who's actually delivered stuff so yeah yes yes and so yeah I mean th th so yeah yes yes and so yeah I mean th th so yeah yes yes and so yeah I mean th th those are the perspectives of people who those are the perspectives of people who those are the perspectives of people who actually had to deal with the BS and the actually had to deal with the BS and the actually had to deal with the BS and the BS is dealing with BS is called BS is dealing with BS is called BS is dealing with BS is called experience right theoretical stuff doesn't nothing right theoretical stuff doesn't nothing ever plays out theoretically it there's ever plays out theoretically it there's ever plays out theoretically it there's always BS that gets in the way and you always BS that gets in the way and you always BS that gets in the way and you have to be able to you know learning how have to be able to you know learning how have to be able to you know learning how to plow through that to plow through that to plow through that stuff I love I love the way that he has stuff I love I love the way that he has stuff I love I love the way that he has approached solving problems yeah um and approached solving problems yeah um and approached solving problems yeah um and not just Tech Le or I want to be the not just Tech Le or I want to be the not just Tech Le or I want to be the smartest I want to be the smartest he's smartest I want to be the smartest he's smartest I want to be the smartest he's like I want we have to provide the

like I want we have to provide the like I want we have to provide the service to the community yeah do it in service to the community yeah do it in service to the community yeah do it in the best way the best way the best way possible well you know uh for me a green possible well you know uh for me a green possible well you know uh for me a green a green flag is that he didn't go a green flag is that he didn't go a green flag is that he didn't go Bonkers with like generative Ai and all Bonkers with like generative Ai and all Bonkers with like generative Ai and all this stuff I mean he's he's the basics this stuff I mean he's he's the basics this stuff I mean he's he's the basics you know business intelligence it's like you know business intelligence it's like you know business intelligence it's like yeah let's deal with what we have that yeah let's deal with what we have that yeah let's deal with what we have that is quality which is usually data uh in is quality which is usually data uh in is quality which is usually data uh in its traditional forms and uh and you its traditional forms and uh and you its traditional forms and uh and you know forms of management let's let's know forms of management let's let's know forms of management let's let's just get that in order and then we can just get that in order and then we can just get that in order and then we can worry about all this other agentic worry about all this other agentic worry about all this other agentic nonsense which requires actually good nonsense which requires actually good nonsense which requires actually good geni which we haven't had and going back geni which we haven't had and going back geni which we haven't had and going back to Apple to Apple to Apple intelligence beta is that is the key intelligence beta is that is the key intelligence beta is that is the key word you just need to know app is word you just need to know app is word you just need to know app is beta you know and also I want you know beta you know and also I want you know beta you know and also I want you know there's all these people bragging about there's all these people bragging about there's all these people bragging about how their their LS are better blah blah how their their LS are better blah blah how their their LS are better blah blah blah and their multimodal you know um blah and their multimodal you know um blah and their multimodal you know um features features features are better go just go to Google and look are better go just go to Google and look are better go just go to Google and look at the overview and look at the bottom at the overview and look at the bottom at the overview and look at the bottom and what it says generative AI is and what it says generative AI is and what it says generative AI is what experimental to everything oh no experimental don't don't believe me no experimental don't don't believe me you know it's predict generative AI with you know it's predict generative AI with you know it's predict generative AI with Transformer based architectures are Transformer based architectures are Transformer based architectures are predictive predictive predictive so yeah but what else you need to know

so yeah but what else you need to know so yeah but what else you need to know yeah and I had an interesting de um yeah and I had an interesting de um yeah and I had an interesting de um conversation with um a rather large conversation with um a rather large conversation with um a rather large software company open source software software company open source software software company open source software company I'm not naming names but they company I'm not naming names but they company I'm not naming names but they were claiming that the rag um enabled were claiming that the rag um enabled were claiming that the rag um enabled them to uh to PO with their customers um them to uh to PO with their customers um them to uh to PO with their customers um generative AI applications that were generative AI applications that were generative AI applications that were more accurate I said well how are you more accurate I said well how are you more accurate I said well how are you doing that because relevant making it doing that because relevant making it doing that because relevant making it more relevant is different from accurate more relevant is different from accurate more relevant is different from accurate is different from precise these are not is different from precise these are not is different from precise these are not the same thing if you tell me that the same thing if you tell me that the same thing if you tell me that somehow rag is making it more somehow rag is making it more somehow rag is making it more accurate um I you need to do your accurate um I you need to do your accurate um I you need to do your homework that's not it it makes things homework that's not it it makes things homework that's not it it makes things more more more relevant not more relevant not more relevant not more accurate right I don't know I for me accurate right I don't know I for me accurate right I don't know I for me it's all of this is is ex exactly what it's all of this is is ex exactly what it's all of this is is ex exactly what what what people said it's what what people said it's what what people said it's experimental rag is rag is another piece experimental rag is rag is another piece experimental rag is rag is another piece of the experiment he said it was like he of the experiment he said it was like he of the experiment he said it was like he was the he said it was the answer to was the he said it was the answer to was the he said it was the answer to everything dude come on experimentally everything dude come on experimentally everything dude come on experimentally experimental answer to everything experimental answer to everything experimental answer to everything whatever well we we have Rob now and Rob whatever well we we have Rob now and Rob whatever well we we have Rob now and Rob oh yeah what's the official what is the oh yeah what's the official what is the oh yeah what's the official what is the official answer rob you can't TR what official answer rob you can't TR what official answer rob you can't TR what B's gonna say because he's a he's an B's gonna say because he's a he's an B's gonna say because he's a he's an analyst oh and you analyst oh and you analyst oh and you he recently posted that is making like

he recently posted that is making like he recently posted that is making like 10x more of a developer that there a 10x more of a developer that there a 10x more of a developer that there a whole yeah J is changing my life whole yeah J is changing my life whole yeah J is changing my life and and and instruct wow I replac Siri with Rob instruct wow I replac Siri with Rob instruct wow I replac Siri with Rob Tiffany after I got the iOS 18 Tiffany after I got the iOS 18 Tiffany after I got the iOS 18 update that's a cool plugin good idea update that's a cool plugin good idea update that's a cool plugin good idea you should monetize it Rob still waiting you should monetize it Rob still waiting you should monetize it Rob still waiting for 18.1 to Thrill Me or knock me off my for 18.1 to Thrill Me or knock me off my for 18.1 to Thrill Me or knock me off my socks or something I don't know I don't socks or something I don't know I don't socks or something I don't know I don't it's not jumping out at me yet yeah it's not jumping out at me yet yeah it's not jumping out at me yet yeah that's that's that's funny yeah there more stuff to come is funny yeah there more stuff to come is funny yeah there more stuff to come is this gonna be a slow drip from Apple Jen this gonna be a slow drip from Apple Jen this gonna be a slow drip from Apple Jen Jen mosy Jen Moji yeah it's a a silent Jen mosy Jen Moji yeah it's a a silent Jen mosy Jen Moji yeah it's a a silent but deadly but deadly but deadly campaign okay there's a lot of campaign okay there's a lot of campaign okay there's a lot of flatulence in this episode you listen flatulence in this episode you listen flatulence in this episode you listen back silent but deadly yeah silence I'm just J lagged that's all I silence I'm just J lagged that's all I got a poor guy I just I'm just coming got a poor guy I just I'm just coming got a poor guy I just I'm just coming from the airport so how's from the airport so how's from the airport so how's Japan oh yeah what were you doing there Japan oh yeah what were you doing there Japan oh yeah what were you doing there what were you doing I was doing it it what were you doing I was doing it it what were you doing I was doing it it was a you know executive analyst deal was a you know executive analyst deal was a you know executive analyst deal with the fij Jitsu folks in with the fij Jitsu folks in with the fij Jitsu folks in Kawasaki and so yeah it was a good week Kawasaki and so yeah it was a good week Kawasaki and so yeah it was a good week it was didit it was didit it was didit A5 I did not actually you know they were A5 I did not actually you know they were A5 I did not actually you know they were all everybody's All About Seafood and all everybody's All About Seafood and all everybody's All About Seafood and weird alien creatures that they eat that weird alien creatures that they eat that weird alien creatures that they eat that they're poison you ride any motorcycles

they're poison you ride any motorcycles they're poison you ride any motorcycles there Kawasaki I did not I did not um so there Kawasaki I did not I did not um so there Kawasaki I did not I did not um so yes I I would have been much happier if yes I I would have been much happier if yes I I would have been much happier if I had some A5 I I'm all about that so my I had some A5 I I'm all about that so my I had some A5 I I'm all about that so my God yeah that would be great they have God yeah that would be great they have God yeah that would be great they have the best they have they have the best Co the best they have they have the best Co the best they have they have the best Co no well wag you yeah it is the best no well wag you yeah it is the best no well wag you yeah it is the best absolutely and they make it the best absolutely and they make it the best absolutely and they make it the best they don't do this like bone in weird they don't do this like bone in weird they don't do this like bone in weird crap that do in Texas and it makes it crap that do in Texas and it makes it crap that do in Texas and it makes it all dried out and weird that's why all dried out and weird that's why all dried out and weird that's why that's why you don't do that I mean if that's why you don't do that I mean if that's why you don't do that I mean if you if you if you're gonna have the you if you if you're gonna have the you if you if you're gonna have the steak it has to be prefaced with not steak it has to be prefaced with not steak it has to be prefaced with not American American American wagu has to be wagu has to be wagu has to be A5 exactly exactly and done the Japanese A5 exactly exactly and done the Japanese A5 exactly exactly and done the Japanese way because the Japanese you know way because the Japanese you know way because the Japanese you know figured out how to do this thing with figured out how to do this thing with figured out how to do this thing with you know getting cows drunk and feeding you know getting cows drunk and feeding you know getting cows drunk and feeding them I think is it acorns or is that them I think is it acorns or is that them I think is it acorns or is that like like like Ian well at least the drunk part getting Ian well at least the drunk part getting Ian well at least the drunk part getting your cows drunk and then you know your cows drunk and then you know your cows drunk and then you know figuring out how to best repair that figuring out how to best repair that figuring out how to best repair that right so well so shifted over to Iberico espia yes sir okay all right saw Iberico espia yes sir okay all right saw a really weird All in the Family episode a really weird All in the Family episode a really weird All in the Family episode the other night where they were eating the other night where they were eating the other night where they were eating horse you ever you ever see that horse you ever you ever see that horse you ever you ever see that one never saw Gloria prepares like horse one never saw Gloria prepares like horse one never saw Gloria prepares like horse horse meat like in secret for the family horse meat like in secret for the family horse meat like in secret for the family and stuff I'm like this weird episode

and stuff I'm like this weird episode and stuff I'm like this weird episode guess that was a thing back in the 70s guess that was a thing back in the 70s guess that was a thing back in the 70s eating eating eating horse the metri will will will vouch uh horse the metri will will will vouch uh horse the metri will will will vouch uh or correct me but I am certain that or correct me but I am certain that or correct me but I am certain that there's at least like two restaurants in there's at least like two restaurants in there's at least like two restaurants in in France like you know maybe one in in France like you know maybe one in in France like you know maybe one in Paris maybe one in uh I don't know Mars Paris maybe one in uh I don't know Mars Paris maybe one in uh I don't know Mars where you can still find it it's uh where you can still find it it's uh where you can still find it it's uh oh as you think yeah oh as you think yeah oh as you think yeah definitely p is right in the 70s when I definitely p is right in the 70s when I definitely p is right in the 70s when I grew up you're the bush in which is your grew up you're the bush in which is your grew up you're the bush in which is your horse butcher was very it was very horse butcher was very it was very horse butcher was very it was very common we would have it once a week it common we would have it once a week it common we would have it once a week it was kind of you know like fish on Friday was kind of you know like fish on Friday was kind of you know like fish on Friday there you there you there you go it kind of came out of fashion go it kind of came out of fashion go it kind of came out of fashion probably because people oh those four probably because people oh those four probably because people oh those four horses yeah people in Switzerland are horses yeah people in Switzerland are horses yeah people in Switzerland are still eating still eating still eating horses that sounds good well you there horses that sounds good well you there horses that sounds good well you there was a big Scandal a few years ago might was a big Scandal a few years ago might was a big Scandal a few years ago might be five or 10 now where because one of be five or 10 now where because one of be five or 10 now where because one of the big food producer in Europe was the big food producer in Europe was the big food producer in Europe was doing a lasagna meal and half of the doing a lasagna meal and half of the doing a lasagna meal and half of the meat was uh was horse meat wow and it meat was uh was horse meat wow and it meat was uh was horse meat wow and it was not cly disclosed on the label he was not cly disclosed on the label he was not cly disclosed on the label he make a big Scandal because there was make a big Scandal because there was make a big Scandal because there was like old horses from Poland or something like old horses from Poland or something like old horses from Poland or something like that and it was cheaper so like that and it was cheaper so like that and it was cheaper so obviously yeah wow it's all about the obviously yeah wow it's all about the obviously yeah wow it's all about the money so anyway yeah there was a big money so anyway yeah there was a big money so anyway yeah there was a big Scandal about that but I was like oh Scandal about that but I was like oh Scandal about that but I was like oh what's the point I I grew up eating hor what's the point I I grew up eating hor what's the point I I grew up eating hor me he was he was what we had me he was he was what we had me he was he was what we had so you know when I spent a bunch of time so you know when I spent a bunch of time so you know when I spent a bunch of time doing mobile strategy for Nestle and I'm doing mobile strategy for Nestle and I'm doing mobile strategy for Nestle and I'm in their headquarters in bevie and

in their headquarters in bevie and in their headquarters in bevie and you're at the cafeteria horse was on the you're at the cafeteria horse was on the you're at the cafeteria horse was on the menu publicly every day you know it was menu publicly every day you know it was menu publicly every day you know it was just it was just like another thing you just it was just like another thing you just it was just like another thing you know where's know where's know where's this Nestle right Nestle right next yeah no way oh okay interesting next yeah no way oh okay interesting next yeah no way oh okay interesting yeah it was it was not unusual or yeah it was it was not unusual or yeah it was it was not unusual or whatever it was just right on the menu whatever it was just right on the menu whatever it was just right on the menu you know that's probably why they called you know that's probably why they called you know that's probably why they called that sleeps quick so did they raise horses for this quick so did they raise horses for this purpose or did they just is it like a purpose or did they just is it like a purpose or did they just is it like a you know a lame horse or old this I I you know a lame horse or old this I I you know a lame horse or old this I I don't this I don't know the history don't this I don't know the history don't this I don't know the history behind this side business it was on the behind this side business it was on the behind this side business it was on the other side of the track oh you came in other side of the track oh you came in other side of the track oh you came in last come here Johnny I mean I mean this last come here Johnny I mean I mean this last come here Johnny I mean I mean this is still common for cows I mean cows is still common for cows I mean cows is still common for cows I mean cows first start their life in milk and then first start their life in milk and then first start their life in milk and then end up in buery when they come anymore end up in buery when they come anymore end up in buery when they come anymore so I wouldn't be surprised that they so I wouldn't be surprised that they so I wouldn't be surprised that they were maybe older Animal I don't know were maybe older Animal I don't know were maybe older Animal I don't know actually actually actually but but but farming wow we're off topic now topics farming wow we're off topic now topics farming wow we're off topic now topics here so but it's educational I'm here so but it's educational I'm here so but it's educational I'm learning something I had no idea yeah so learning something I had no idea yeah so learning something I had no idea yeah so that's new new information yeah yes new that's new new information yeah yes new that's new new information yeah yes new information so back to back 4 AM information so back to back 4 AM information so back to back 4 AM mornings yesterday and today so that mornings yesterday and today so that mornings yesterday and today so that really sucks ouch wow ples and uh but really sucks ouch wow ples and uh but really sucks ouch wow ples and uh but had a neat a good dinner event with AMD had a neat a good dinner event with AMD had a neat a good dinner event with AMD last night in Chicago it was all about

last night in Chicago it was all about last night in Chicago it was all about a oh yeah yeah so yeah it was good you a oh yeah yeah so yeah it was good you a oh yeah yeah so yeah it was good you know you know when they like you hi in know you know when they like you hi in know you know when they like you hi in restaurant and they a lot of local execs restaurant and they a lot of local execs restaurant and they a lot of local execs and stuff show up and yeah my God just and stuff show up and yeah my God just and stuff show up and yeah my God just it sounds so tough Rob know this we so it sounds so tough Rob know this we so it sounds so tough Rob know this we so sorry for you my gosh it's tough you sorry for you my gosh it's tough you sorry for you my gosh it's tough you help do do you need help wine tasting help do do you need help wine tasting help do do you need help wine tasting was part of the event as well you know was part of the event as well you know was part of the event as well you know guess what Apple in unveils new Macbook guess what Apple in unveils new Macbook guess what Apple in unveils new Macbook Pros with high powerered M4 Max chips Pros with high powerered M4 Max chips Pros with high powerered M4 Max chips now this is silent but deadly right I now this is silent but deadly right I now this is silent but deadly right I mean last year they had the what do you mean last year they had the what do you mean last year they had the what do you call it the scary fast event and that call it the scary fast event and that call it the scary fast event and that was just like you know they just like was just like you know they just like was just like you know they just like let everything out on a table and said let everything out on a table and said let everything out on a table and said hey qualcom no you hey qualcom no you hey qualcom no you don't and then now they're just like don't and then now they're just like don't and then now they're just like eing this stuff out day by day it's eing this stuff out day by day it's eing this stuff out day by day it's crazy crazy I got to this M4 Max chip crazy crazy I got to this M4 Max chip crazy crazy I got to this M4 Max chip that and you know they'll probably come that and you know they'll probably come that and you know they'll probably come out with the ultra because you know it out with the ultra because you know it out with the ultra because you know it doesn't make sense for them to do it doesn't make sense for them to do it doesn't make sense for them to do it every year like an ultra yeah yeah every every year like an ultra yeah yeah every every year like an ultra yeah yeah every every other year uh Cadence probably every other year uh Cadence probably every other year uh Cadence probably works because a lot of a lot of the the works because a lot of a lot of the the works because a lot of a lot of the the aiish kind of aiish kind of aiish kind of stuff is memory bound right you need stuff is memory bound right you need stuff is memory bound right you need memory and IO um a lot of these chips memory and IO um a lot of these chips memory and IO um a lot of these chips are are are overpowered even though they don't seem overpowered even though they don't seem overpowered even though they don't seem like it when you look at the specs right like it when you look at the specs right like it when you look at the specs right so what you're saying is there's not so what you're saying is there's not so what you're saying is there's not enough memory bandwidth to handle what

enough memory bandwidth to handle what enough memory bandwidth to handle what the chip can do kind of did you see what the chip can do kind of did you see what the chip can do kind of did you see what they did with the um A4 uh or they did with the um A4 uh or they did with the um A4 uh or M4 Uh crap M4 Pro what they do it's like M4 Uh crap M4 Pro what they do it's like M4 Uh crap M4 Pro what they do it's like 273 gig gigabits per second um memory 273 gig gigabits per second um memory 273 gig gigabits per second um memory bandwidth all right all right that's bandwidth all right all right that's bandwidth all right all right that's like twice of anything else that's like like twice of anything else that's like like twice of anything else that's like you're getting into like you know you're getting into like you know you're getting into like you know freaking gen super Computing data freaking gen super Computing data freaking gen super Computing data centered scale kind of centered scale kind of centered scale kind of crazy quite crazy quite crazy quite but it's a different architecture the but it's a different architecture the but it's a different architecture the the Apple architecture is not just a the Apple architecture is not just a the Apple architecture is not just a chip it's the whole system on shape chip it's the whole system on shape chip it's the whole system on shape including the memory from the very including the memory from the very including the memory from the very beginning they pushing that so it has beginning they pushing that so it has beginning they pushing that so it has scalability everybody laughed at them scalability everybody laughed at them scalability everybody laughed at them because they could do machines with less because they could do machines with less because they could do machines with less memory in the beginning but the thing is memory in the beginning but the thing is memory in the beginning but the thing is that once you have the right that once you have the right that once you have the right architecture if you scale it with more architecture if you scale it with more architecture if you scale it with more it scales even better hey um that's it scales even better hey um that's it scales even better hey um that's nuvia you know um Gerard Williams and nuvia you know um Gerard Williams and nuvia you know um Gerard Williams and his team man I mean that his team man I mean that his team man I mean that philosophy he's he's bringing it to philosophy he's he's bringing it to philosophy he's he's bringing it to Orion you know and all Dragon uh Elite I Orion you know and all Dragon uh Elite I Orion you know and all Dragon uh Elite I guess you have to call them Elites now I guess you have to call them Elites now I guess you have to call them Elites now I don't know you know because they they've don't know you know because they they've don't know you know because they they've released you know um the tear yeah the released you know um the tear yeah the released you know um the tear yeah the eight Elites I don't know what they're eight Elites I don't know what they're eight Elites I don't know what they're going to call it beyond that but going to call it beyond that but going to call it beyond that but uh yeah you're right right this whole uh yeah you're right right this whole uh yeah you're right right this whole um what seems like less is actually a um what seems like less is actually a um what seems like less is actually a hell of a lot more is is that new design

hell of a lot more is is that new design hell of a lot more is is that new design philosophy that the the chip leaders are philosophy that the the chip leaders are philosophy that the the chip leaders are are taking on you know even in are taking on you know even in are taking on you know even in hyperscale data center right so Pete we hyperscale data center right so Pete we hyperscale data center right so Pete we talked about cerebrus or cerebras or talked about cerebrus or cerebras or talked about cerebrus or cerebras or however you like to pronounce it that's however you like to pronounce it that's however you like to pronounce it that's that's what they're they're kind of that's what they're they're kind of that's what they're they're kind of doing right which is doing right which is doing right which is that the disrup that the disrup that the disrup disruptive um uh angle that they're disruptive um uh angle that they're disruptive um uh angle that they're taking on with generative AI taking on with generative AI taking on with generative AI supercomputing supercomputing supercomputing wow did you guys already talk about arm wow did you guys already talk about arm wow did you guys already talk about arm cutting off qualcom no we haven't we cutting off qualcom no we haven't we cutting off qualcom no we haven't we we're talking a lot about you know farts we're talking a lot about you know farts we're talking a lot about you know farts and stuff like that yeah less didn't we and stuff like that yeah less didn't we and stuff like that yeah less didn't we talk about that last week I think we did talk about that last week I think we did talk about that last week I think we did talk about last time it's like yeah the talk about last time it's like yeah the talk about last time it's like yeah the the the licensing and the acquisition of the the licensing and the acquisition of the the licensing and the acquisition of nuvia and the pricing the it's it all nuvia and the pricing the it's it all nuvia and the pricing the it's it all get settled out but it is somehow get settled out but it is somehow get settled out but it is somehow somehow actually yeah I mean this you somehow actually yeah I mean this you somehow actually yeah I mean this you know speaking of this like I think know speaking of this like I think know speaking of this like I think what's really cool is I love the what's really cool is I love the what's really cool is I love the diversity of architectures going on out diversity of architectures going on out diversity of architectures going on out there right now like I think AI has there right now like I think AI has there right now like I think AI has opened up in the semiconductor space opened up in the semiconductor space opened up in the semiconductor space lots of interesting thinking about how lots of interesting thinking about how lots of interesting thinking about how to do things whether it's like we had a to do things whether it's like we had a to do things whether it's like we had a company called there's a company called company called there's a company called company called there's a company called eais that's part of our community and eais that's part of our community and eais that's part of our community and they were on our tinyml talks this week they were on our tinyml talks this week they were on our tinyml talks this week talking about how to build custom kind talking about how to build custom kind talking about how to build custom kind of AI accelerator silicon for your kind of AI accelerator silicon for your kind of AI accelerator silicon for your kind of low you know kind of low bandwidth of low you know kind of low bandwidth of low you know kind of low bandwidth kind of edge devices so you know if you kind of edge devices so you know if you kind of edge devices so you know if you have a model and you want to build your have a model and you want to build your have a model and you want to build your own chip you don't want to take an off own chip you don't want to take an off own chip you don't want to take an off the shelf chip and use it you can build

the shelf chip and use it you can build the shelf chip and use it you can build very custom silicon pretty cheaply uh very custom silicon pretty cheaply uh very custom silicon pretty cheaply uh for your for your consumer goods and for your for your consumer goods and for your for your consumer goods and stuff and kind of do your own thing and stuff and kind of do your own thing and stuff and kind of do your own thing and kind of accelerate your own model with kind of accelerate your own model with kind of accelerate your own model with your own custom silicon and I think it's your own custom silicon and I think it's your own custom silicon and I think it's kind of opened up all these things like kind of opened up all these things like kind of opened up all these things like Risk five and arm and there's all kinds Risk five and arm and there's all kinds Risk five and arm and there's all kinds of cool stuff going on out there almost of cool stuff going on out there almost of cool stuff going on out there almost like a Renaissance of semiconductor like a Renaissance of semiconductor like a Renaissance of semiconductor creativity because of AI I think I love creativity because of AI I think I love creativity because of AI I think I love that yeah now that we've decided we're that yeah now that we've decided we're that yeah now that we've decided we're going to launch our own risk five going to launch our own risk five going to launch our own risk five Foundry this is perfect timing yeah yes Foundry this is perfect timing yeah yes Foundry this is perfect timing yeah yes we just need s trillion dollar see did we just need s trillion dollar see did we just need s trillion dollar see did you see that uh uh Sam Alman dumped the you see that uh uh Sam Alman dumped the you see that uh uh Sam Alman dumped the whole $7 trillion doll thing and now whole $7 trillion doll thing and now whole $7 trillion doll thing and now he's going to broadcom and others to to he's going to broadcom and others to to he's going to broadcom and others to to um basically design their chips and um basically design their chips and um basically design their chips and likely through tsmc see that so open likely through tsmc see that so open likely through tsmc see that so open opportunity Rob we gota got find a opportunity Rob we gota got find a opportunity Rob we gota got find a gullible VC to believe in gullible VC to believe in gullible VC to believe in narrative and then help us find seven narrative and then help us find seven narrative and then help us find seven trillion dollars not million dollar trillion dollars not million dollar trillion dollars not million dollar trillion dollars seven trillion dollars seven trillion dollars seven exactly absolutely not six and Eight's exactly absolutely not six and Eight's exactly absolutely not six and Eight's too much but seven like not seven minute too much but seven like not seven minute too much but seven like not seven minute abs seven minute abs exactly oh my gosh oh my gosh yeah well you know I mean I guess yeah well you know I mean I guess yeah well you know I mean I guess alman's got to spread you know he's alman's got to spread you know he's alman's got to spread you know he's gotta hedge his bets you know because

gotta hedge his bets you know because gotta hedge his bets you know because Mark Andre you know says this whole llm Mark Andre you know says this whole llm Mark Andre you know says this whole llm model thing that everybody's pouring model thing that everybody's pouring model thing that everybody's pouring money into is just a race to the bottom money into is just a race to the bottom money into is just a race to the bottom and it's be and it's be and it's be worthless and that's you know you can't worthless and that's you know you can't worthless and that's you know you can't have Alman on one side you know raising have Alman on one side you know raising have Alman on one side you know raising all this money to build their thing and all this money to build their thing and all this money to build their thing and then you have Zuckerberg on the other then you have Zuckerberg on the other then you have Zuckerberg on the other side saying oh here go ahead download side saying oh here go ahead download side saying oh here go ahead download llama 3.2 it's free free well now yeah llama 3.2 it's free free well now yeah llama 3.2 it's free free well now yeah meta is going to get into the search meta is going to get into the search meta is going to get into the search business now that search has become business now that search has become business now that search has become deconstructed into a bunch of AI queries deconstructed into a bunch of AI queries deconstructed into a bunch of AI queries yeah it's going to be in the search yeah it's going to be in the search yeah it's going to be in the search business and uh you know it's going to business and uh you know it's going to business and uh you know it's going to be a race to the bottom on on search be a race to the bottom on on search be a race to the bottom on on search search Revenue so yeah it search Revenue so yeah it search Revenue so yeah it is that that was that thing about um is that that was that thing about um is that that was that thing about um synthetic engagement that um Debbie and synthetic engagement that um Debbie and synthetic engagement that um Debbie and I had a chat about is you're just going I had a chat about is you're just going I had a chat about is you're just going to have these to have these to have these these fabricated interaction between these fabricated interaction between these fabricated interaction between machines and it's how valuable is that machines and it's how valuable is that machines and it's how valuable is that right uh I I think that's that's a big right uh I I think that's that's a big right uh I I think that's that's a big question because right now we already question because right now we already question because right now we already have a problem with Bots right so if have a problem with Bots right so if have a problem with Bots right so if everyone anyone thinks that these everyone anyone thinks that these everyone anyone thinks that these agentic things are net new they're agentic things are net new they're agentic things are net new they're freaking not they're not we had these freaking not they're not we had these freaking not they're not we had these things called Bots program trading in things called Bots program trading in things called Bots program trading in finance you think that these things are finance you think that these things are finance you think that these things are the same things from the the same things from the the same things from the 80s no they've gotten smarter I mean if 80s no they've gotten smarter I mean if 80s no they've gotten smarter I mean if you want to talk about industry that you want to talk about industry that you want to talk about industry that throws a crap ton of money into throws a crap ton of money into throws a crap ton of money into intelligence for automation at intelligence for automation at intelligence for automation at velocities that you can ever imagine uh velocities that you can ever imagine uh velocities that you can ever imagine uh that's

that's that's distributed it's the finance industry distributed it's the finance industry distributed it's the finance industry you know trading well wait wait a minute you know trading well wait wait a minute you know trading well wait wait a minute I'm gonna I'm gonna argue against that I'm gonna I'm gonna argue against that I'm gonna I'm gonna argue against that and say the biggest challenge the and say the biggest challenge the and say the biggest challenge the biggest problem where they're really biggest problem where they're really biggest problem where they're really screwing up is my sneaker screwing up is my sneaker screwing up is my sneaker them right when I I want these damn them right when I I want these damn them right when I I want these damn drops right when they come out I want to drops right when they come out I want to drops right when they come out I want to be able to get them and stop these damn be able to get them and stop these damn be able to get them and stop these damn Bots from getting them and put resale Bots from getting them and put resale Bots from getting them and put resale Market yes yeah so yeah enabling the Market yes yeah so yeah enabling the Market yes yeah so yeah enabling the scalping Market you know see all these scalping Market you know see all these scalping Market you know see all these things that are going to help us get to things that are going to help us get to things that are going to help us get to the next you know1 17 trillion dollar in the next you know1 17 trillion dollar in the next you know1 17 trillion dollar in uh global economic uh global economic uh global economic uplift you're messing up my sneaker game uplift you're messing up my sneaker game uplift you're messing up my sneaker game man you need to get your own bot proxies man you need to get your own bot proxies man you need to get your own bot proxies yeah you need bot B the interesting yeah you need bot B the interesting yeah you need bot B the interesting thing about that is you know people are thing about that is you know people are thing about that is you know people are always asking where they going to be the always asking where they going to be the always asking where they going to be the singularity where AI started to have singularity where AI started to have singularity where AI started to have conscience imagine what's going to conscience imagine what's going to conscience imagine what's going to happen when those bot realize that happen when those bot realize that happen when those bot realize that they're not making the money it's they're not making the money it's they're not making the money it's somebody else that is making the money somebody else that is making the money somebody else that is making the money using them think about what's going to using them think about what's going to using them think about what's going to happen then think about it happen then think about it happen then think about it yeah well you know yeah hey can I do a yeah well you know yeah hey can I do a yeah well you know yeah hey can I do a little I'm gonna do a little pitch I'm little I'm gonna do a little pitch I'm little I'm gonna do a little pitch I'm going to be in Taiwan next week speaking going to be in Taiwan next week speaking going to be in Taiwan next week speaking of travel nice for the week we have a of travel nice for the week we have a of travel nice for the week we have a big big event on the 6th and uh if big big event on the 6th and uh if big big event on the 6th and uh if you're in taipe and want to learn about you're in taipe and want to learn about you're in taipe and want to learn about Aji you can come to our show a

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Rob Rob M gen to tell me what to pack for my M gen to tell me what to pack for my M gen to tell me what to pack for my trip based on the weather forecast and trip based on the weather forecast and trip based on the weather forecast and all that oh I want to you know what you all that oh I want to you know what you all that oh I want to you know what you should record yourself doing going should record yourself doing going should record yourself doing going through that process having tonight I through that process having tonight I through that process having tonight I told you what to pack come on Pete you told you what to pack come on Pete you told you what to pack come on Pete you disappoint me Pete I mean there's not disappoint me Pete I mean there's not disappoint me Pete I mean there's not enough data for that yet so it doesn't enough data for that yet so it doesn't enough data for that yet so it doesn't learner yet you have to wait for learn I learner yet you have to wait for learn I learner yet you have to wait for learn I toj I just to my closet it'll be like toj I just to my closet it'll be like toj I just to my closet it'll be like here's all my clothes no no no hey Pete here's all my clothes no no no hey Pete here's all my clothes no no no hey Pete what what you have to do is you have to what what you have to do is you have to what what you have to do is you have to wait for it to catastrophically screw up wait for it to catastrophically screw up wait for it to catastrophically screw up your life several times then learns what your life several times then learns what your life several times then learns what not to do Ah that's right so you have to not to do Ah that's right so you have to not to do Ah that's right so you have to wait for that it wait for that it wait for that it doesn't in Chicago in the winter and doesn't in Chicago in the winter and doesn't in Chicago in the winter and then I'll be like yeah you gotta get then I'll be like yeah you gotta get then I'll be like yeah you gotta get pissed off at it a few times boundary pissed off at it a few times boundary pissed off at it a few times boundary conditions seriously yeah enough for you conditions seriously yeah enough for you conditions seriously yeah enough for you to bother to hit that hey did I do a to bother to hit that hey did I do a to bother to hit that hey did I do a good job or a bad job thing to do the good job or a bad job thing to do the good job or a bad job thing to do the reinforcement learning right otherwise reinforcement learning right otherwise reinforcement learning right otherwise how is it going to know it's true yeah how is it going to know it's true yeah how is it going to know it's true yeah you know so I just want to say before I you know so I just want to say before I you know so I just want to say before I drop off here um I um this gen stuff drop off here um I um this gen stuff drop off here um I um this gen stuff sometimes is kind of real I've been sometimes is kind of real I've been sometimes is kind of real I've been playing with the updated stuff from our playing with the updated stuff from our playing with the updated stuff from our friends at anthropic yeah um you know friends at anthropic yeah um you know friends at anthropic yeah um you know the fact that it can manipulate stuff on the fact that it can manipulate stuff on the fact that it can manipulate stuff on your computer you know and I know some your computer you know and I know some your computer you know and I know some of us kind of chimed in and go wow of us kind of chimed in and go wow of us kind of chimed in and go wow that's that could put the RPA people out that's that could put the RPA people out that's that could put the RPA people out of business like uip paath and folks of business like uip paath and folks of business like uip paath and folks like that but if you take it to the next

like that but if you take it to the next like that but if you take it to the next level if if Claude can now level if if Claude can now level if if Claude can now programmatically manipulate anything in programmatically manipulate anything in programmatically manipulate anything in your computer it's just a short leap to your computer it's just a short leap to your computer it's just a short leap to where the computer is driving automation where the computer is driving automation where the computer is driving automation of machines or HVAC systems or robots or of machines or HVAC systems or robots or of machines or HVAC systems or robots or anything and so now we're we're getting anything and so now we're we're getting anything and so now we're we're getting close to uh that takeover you know of close to uh that takeover you know of close to uh that takeover you know of Skynet and and robots so I think that's Skynet and and robots so I think that's Skynet and and robots so I think that's a thing it's not a big it's not a big a thing it's not a big it's not a big a thing it's not a big it's not a big leap it's it's going from sofware to leap it's it's going from sofware to leap it's it's going from sofware to controlling machines and so I I want to controlling machines and so I I want to controlling machines and so I I want to try to play with that I also noticed try to play with that I also noticed try to play with that I also noticed that I would upload like one chapter of that I would upload like one chapter of that I would upload like one chapter of My Submarine Warriors book and just say My Submarine Warriors book and just say My Submarine Warriors book and just say enhance this content and just blows me enhance this content and just blows me enhance this content and just blows me away how much better it is than I am as away how much better it is than I am as away how much better it is than I am as a writer it's like really is that is a writer it's like really is that is a writer it's like really is that is that a function of your writing though that a function of your writing though that a function of your writing though or is that a function of the AI I mean I or is that a function of the AI I mean I or is that a function of the AI I mean I mean I don't know I'm gonna I'm just I'm mean I don't know I'm gonna I'm just I'm mean I don't know I'm gonna I'm just I'm a loser I'm a loser you know I did the a loser I'm a loser you know I did the a loser I'm a loser you know I did the writing I thought it was good and then I writing I thought it was good and then I writing I thought it was good and then I I crank it through that and I'm just I crank it through that and I'm just I crank it through that and I'm just like it's just so rich and beautiful and like it's just so rich and beautiful and like it's just so rich and beautiful and like like like wow it's so good you know whenever you wow it's so good you know whenever you wow it's so good you know whenever you hear people oh no we're gonna you know hear people oh no we're gonna you know hear people oh no we're gonna you know AI could put you know writers and AI could put you know writers and AI could put you know writers and screenwriters and Hollywood out of screenwriters and Hollywood out of screenwriters and Hollywood out of business it absolutely can it's really business it absolutely can it's really business it absolutely can it's really getting really really good it's really getting really really good it's really getting really really good it's really really good to to your earlier Point Rob really good to to your earlier Point Rob really good to to your earlier Point Rob I think we are on the and actually my I think we are on the and actually my I think we are on the and actually my prediction related to what we discuss prediction related to what we discuss prediction related to what we discuss about iot we are on the verge of a of a

about iot we are on the verge of a of a about iot we are on the verge of a of a critical Singularity because all the AI critical Singularity because all the AI critical Singularity because all the AI stuff so far was you know the human was stuff so far was you know the human was stuff so far was you know the human was the interface you talk to those things the interface you talk to those things the interface you talk to those things now we're starting to connect it to the now we're starting to connect it to the now we're starting to connect it to the physical world more and more and as soon physical world more and more and as soon physical world more and more and as soon as those gen system have the ability to as those gen system have the ability to as those gen system have the ability to impact directly the physical world this impact directly the physical world this impact directly the physical world this is going to change and this is going to is going to change and this is going to is going to change and this is going to be you can you can say extremely scary be you can you can say extremely scary be you can you can say extremely scary because now we're going to give these because now we're going to give these because now we're going to give these things and then the domes robots as well things and then the domes robots as well things and then the domes robots as well everybody's laughing about it or or everybody's laughing about it or or everybody's laughing about it or or praising think about it when those this praising think about it when those this praising think about it when those this AI power that we don't control today gen AI power that we don't control today gen AI power that we don't control today gen gets directly connected to the physical gets directly connected to the physical gets directly connected to the physical world yep yeah world yep yeah world yep yeah yeah we we have Decades of of I yeah we we have Decades of of I yeah we we have Decades of of I ahead of us decades to this yeah all ahead of us decades to this yeah all ahead of us decades to this yeah all right so hey let's wrap this up hey right so hey let's wrap this up hey right so hey let's wrap this up hey everyone Thanks for uh tuning in we everyone Thanks for uh tuning in we everyone Thanks for uh tuning in we really appreciate your really appreciate your really appreciate your viewership especially um you know kind viewership especially um you know kind viewership especially um you know kind of weathering the whole front part of of weathering the whole front part of of weathering the whole front part of this whole episode which was kind of this whole episode which was kind of this whole episode which was kind of goofy but uh actually ends up being very goofy but uh actually ends up being very goofy but uh actually ends up being very insightful if you uh can stop yourself insightful if you uh can stop yourself insightful if you uh can stop yourself from laughing or just you know switching from laughing or just you know switching from laughing or just you know switching to a different to a different to a different podcast uh but remember we do this all podcast uh but remember we do this all podcast uh but remember we do this all for the kids so please consider donating for the kids so please consider donating for the kids so please consider donating to uh Elevate our kids at www. elevar to uh Elevate our kids at www. elevar to uh Elevate our kids at www. elevar kids.org we're trying to help the kids K kids.org we're trying to help the kids K kids.org we're trying to help the kids K through 12 uh Bridge the digital divide through 12 uh Bridge the digital divide through 12 uh Bridge the digital divide especially those kids in um you know

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