IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 209 - The Day After (The Atomic Episode)

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about that yeah I'll tell you an about that yeah I'll tell you an interesting VC anecdote we were raising interesting VC anecdote we were raising interesting VC anecdote we were raising money for uh this startup we had called money for uh this startup we had called money for uh this startup we had called ecolor which was a Bay Area color ecolor which was a Bay Area color ecolor which was a Bay Area color correction startup and we were I think correction startup and we were I think correction startup and we were I think we had done a pretty good series a did a we had done a pretty good series a did a we had done a pretty good series a did a series B had these VCS from New York big series B had these VCS from New York big series B had these VCS from New York big I forgot the name of them but they flew I forgot the name of them but they flew I forgot the name of them but they flew us to New York we had dinner like in the us to New York we had dinner like in the us to New York we had dinner like in the kitchen of this fancy restaurant like kitchen of this fancy restaurant like kitchen of this fancy restaurant like their private table and they were their private table and they were their private table and they were totally like wooing us to like you know totally like wooing us to like you know totally like wooing us to like you know be in this series B round and they had be in this series B round and they had be in this series B round and they had no idea they didn't know anything about no idea they didn't know anything about no idea they didn't know anything about color color correction they didn't care color color correction they didn't care color color correction they didn't care they didn't care they're like you know they didn't care they're like you know they didn't care they're like you know okay you're working with Bloomingdale okay you're working with Bloomingdale okay you're working with Bloomingdale you're working with Brooks brother this you're working with Brooks brother this you're working with Brooks brother this is f that's all we need to know but it is f that's all we need to know but it is f that's all we need to know but it was like this whole thing where there was like this whole thing where there was like this whole thing where there the whole trip to the east coast and the whole trip to the east coast and the whole trip to the east coast and then dinner and the wooing and whatever then dinner and the wooing and whatever then dinner and the wooing and whatever they end up you know being then they they end up you know being then they they end up you know being then they took like a board seat and but it was a took like a board seat and but it was a took like a board seat and but it was a real classic like it could have been an real classic like it could have been an real classic like it could have been an episode from Silicon Valley you know the episode from Silicon Valley you know the episode from Silicon Valley you know the whole the whole scene um anyway wow whole the whole scene um anyway wow whole the whole scene um anyway wow color correction there you go that was a color correction there you go that was a color correction there you go that was a big thing man I would have done in my big thing man I would have done in my big thing man I would have done in my pitch video I would have had that scene pitch video I would have had that scene pitch video I would have had that scene from Arthur you know like at Bergdorf from Arthur you know like at Bergdorf from Arthur you know like at Bergdorf Goodman you know yes I have like 12 of Goodman you know yes I have like 12 of Goodman you know yes I have like 12 of these assorted colors shirts so God oh my God so hey everyone welcome so God oh my God so hey everyone welcome to iot Coffee to iot Coffee to iot Coffee Talk this is our fourth anniversary Talk this is our fourth anniversary Talk this is our fourth anniversary edition plus one that's right New Era edition plus one that's right New Era edition plus one that's right New Era the four plus era yes the day after the

the four plus era yes the day after the the four plus era yes the day after the day after which I saw um I was like I day after which I saw um I was like I day after which I saw um I was like I had it served on YouTube you remember had it served on YouTube you remember had it served on YouTube you remember that movie the movie The Day After yeah that movie the movie The Day After yeah that movie the movie The Day After yeah that was a big one it was on TV or that was a big one it was on TV or that was a big one it was on TV or regular TV scared the hell out of people regular TV scared the hell out of people regular TV scared the hell out of people on TV on TV on TV didn't I think some people thought it didn't I think some people thought it didn't I think some people thought it was real actually wasn't it I think was real actually wasn't it I think was real actually wasn't it I think you're right yeah War of the world's you're right yeah War of the world's you're right yeah War of the world's kind of kind of kind of 1983 yeah that Van Halen's 1984 album 1983 yeah that Van Halen's 1984 album 1983 yeah that Van Halen's 1984 album came out I think yeah hey that was came out I think yeah hey that was came out I think yeah hey that was before the internet nobody could go on before the internet nobody could go on before the internet nobody could go on to and check on Tik Tok I can't remember to and check on Tik Tok I can't remember to and check on Tik Tok I can't remember if I told you i' listened to the audio if I told you i' listened to the audio if I told you i' listened to the audio book called nuclear war from Annie book called nuclear war from Annie book called nuclear war from Annie Jacobson um just recently which is Jacobson um just recently which is Jacobson um just recently which is mindboggling minute by minute second by mindboggling minute by minute second by mindboggling minute by minute second by second almost yeah of of nuclear second almost yeah of of nuclear second almost yeah of of nuclear exchange it's terrifying and then I just exchange it's terrifying and then I just exchange it's terrifying and then I just noticed noticed noticed Lex freedman's got her on his podcast Lex freedman's got her on his podcast Lex freedman's got her on his podcast and so when I walking I was listening to and so when I walking I was listening to and so when I walking I was listening to it so they were kind of going a deep it so they were kind of going a deep it so they were kind of going a deep dive you know and Lex is like oh my God dive you know and Lex is like oh my God dive you know and Lex is like oh my God this I mean I think everybody kind of this I mean I think everybody kind of this I mean I think everybody kind of knows in the back of their mind how knows in the back of their mind how knows in the back of their mind how horrific it is but the level of detail horrific it is but the level of detail horrific it is but the level of detail in the interviews that she did with all in the interviews that she did with all in the interviews that she did with all these people going all the way back to these people going all the way back to these people going all the way back to the Manhattan Project are just you know the Manhattan Project are just you know the Manhattan Project are just you know it's really fascinating makes it more it's really fascinating makes it more it's really fascinating makes it more real but you're right that movie The Day real but you're right that movie The Day real but you're right that movie The Day After made it real for a whole lot of After made it real for a whole lot of After made it real for a whole lot of people yeah no seriously another good people yeah no seriously another good people yeah no seriously another good one is the war games that I saw recently one is the war games that I saw recently one is the war games that I saw recently with Matthew brck the80s and that that with Matthew brck the80s and that that with Matthew brck the80s and that that has like a good AI bent to it too right has like a good AI bent to it too right has like a good AI bent to it too right it's the Whopper yeah Whopper right the

it's the Whopper yeah Whopper right the it's the Whopper yeah Whopper right the Whopper computer I think what we learned Whopper computer I think what we learned Whopper computer I think what we learned from that movie is don't let AI take from that movie is don't let AI take from that movie is don't let AI take control of your nuclear Arsenal and have control of your nuclear Arsenal and have control of your nuclear Arsenal and have it make decisions in other words yeah it make decisions in other words yeah it make decisions in other words yeah don't hook it up to don't hook it up to don't hook it up to anything yeah which everyone is trying anything yeah which everyone is trying anything yeah which everyone is trying to do right now with these agents and to do right now with these agents and to do right now with these agents and whatever don't hook AI up to anything whatever don't hook AI up to anything whatever don't hook AI up to anything important I think that's well and also important I think that's well and also important I think that's well and also what speaking of just hooking things up what speaking of just hooking things up what speaking of just hooking things up you know just being connected is you know just being connected is you know just being connected is dangerous on some level right I posted dangerous on some level right I posted dangerous on some level right I posted something that everybody thought I was something that everybody thought I was something that everybody thought I was just being silly about you know what just being silly about you know what just being silly about you know what happens if with a nuclear football if happens if with a nuclear football if happens if with a nuclear football if the president is in an elevator in a the president is in an elevator in a the president is in an elevator in a building you know you think about building you know you think about building you know you think about connectivity transmission you know I'm connectivity transmission you know I'm connectivity transmission you know I'm I'm using the nuclear football briefcase I'm using the nuclear football briefcase I'm using the nuclear football briefcase Satchel to send these commands but if Satchel to send these commands but if Satchel to send these commands but if I'm in an elevator what if it what if I'm in an elevator what if it what if I'm in an elevator what if it what if they don't go or what you they don't go or what you they don't go or what you know I was this close to commenting that know I was this close to commenting that know I was this close to commenting that someone would uh take a screwdriver to someone would uh take a screwdriver to someone would uh take a screwdriver to the elevator and take the landline Jack the elevator and take the landline Jack the elevator and take the landline Jack that's plugged into the service elevator that's plugged into the service elevator that's plugged into the service elevator it yeah mgy yes plug it into the it yeah mgy yes plug it into the it yeah mgy yes plug it into the football that's what they're trained to football that's what they're trained to football that's what they're trained to do what they're trained to do we need do what they're trained to do we need do what they're trained to do we need Dione di dial tone for the win yeah you Dione di dial tone for the win yeah you Dione di dial tone for the win yeah you guys be surprised to know that almost guys be surprised to know that almost guys be surprised to know that almost all the technology and the transmission all the technology and the transmission all the technology and the transmission and everything for that whole military and everything for that whole military and everything for that whole military command and control is analog command and control is analog command and control is analog yeah analog is making a big comeback yeah analog is making a big comeback yeah analog is making a big comeback yeah syons dude you know Battle Star yeah syons dude you know Battle Star yeah syons dude you know Battle Star Galactica that that is exactly what they

Galactica that that is exactly what they Galactica that that is exactly what they did and people think that's weird but did and people think that's weird but did and people think that's weird but you have to you have to you mean to tell you have to you have to you mean to tell you have to you have to you mean to tell me that copper is high reliability when me that copper is high reliability when me that copper is high reliability when you just transmitting tiny packets yes you just transmitting tiny packets yes you just transmitting tiny packets yes yeah okay no it's going to boil down to yeah okay no it's going to boil down to yeah okay no it's going to boil down to you're going to do that Lord of the Ring you're going to do that Lord of the Ring you're going to do that Lord of the Ring stuff you know remember when uh you know stuff you know remember when uh you know stuff you know remember when uh you know uh what what's his name I think it was uh what what's his name I think it was uh what what's his name I think it was not Frodo the other Hobbit the one of not Frodo the other Hobbit the one of not Frodo the other Hobbit the one of the two naughty Hobbits lights the the the two naughty Hobbits lights the the the two naughty Hobbits lights the the flame of XYZ to signal to the roim and flame of XYZ to signal to the roim and flame of XYZ to signal to the roim and to go and come and you know assemble and to go and come and you know assemble and to go and come and you know assemble and save them from sauron's army yeah that save them from sauron's army yeah that save them from sauron's army yeah that kind of we're gonna resort to that kind kind of we're gonna resort to that kind kind of we're gonna resort to that kind of stuff wow cultural references this of stuff wow cultural references this of stuff wow cultural references this morning I gu you know and that's an morning I gu you know and that's an morning I gu you know and that's an important cultural reference in our important cultural reference in our important cultural reference in our actual real Shar history of when they actual real Shar history of when they actual real Shar history of when they lit the fires across the mountaintops as lit the fires across the mountaintops as lit the fires across the mountaintops as a signal what a what a moment I was like a signal what a what a moment I was like a signal what a what a moment I was like oh God I remember when that happened yeah our our ancestors when they had to yeah our our ancestors when they had to do that you know big big deal you know do that you know big big deal you know do that you know big big deal you know true story talk about talk about a big true story talk about talk about a big true story talk about talk about a big notification right when you see the peak notification right when you see the peak notification right when you see the peak slide up yeah you know that is so much slide up yeah you know that is so much slide up yeah you know that is so much that is so much better than just bunch that is so much better than just bunch that is so much better than just bunch of slack uh channels to of slack uh channels to of slack uh channels to little number count on your iPhone home little number count on your iPhone home little number count on your iPhone home screen yeah right you know thing but screen yeah right you know thing but screen yeah right you know thing but it's not it's not uncommon for us to it's not it's not uncommon for us to it's not it's not uncommon for us to call it right so this might be an

call it right so this might be an call it right so this might be an eventuality it might be an eventuality it might be an eventuality it might be an inevitability actually that's a creepy inevitability actually that's a creepy inevitability actually that's a creepy thing you know well you know um who thing you know well you know um who thing you know well you know um who knows what version of civilization that knows what version of civilization that knows what version of civilization that we're in it right now um you know and we're in it right now um you know and we're in it right now um you know and the reason for that you know some of the the reason for that you know some of the the reason for that you know some of the stuff like in in the nuclear war book stuff like in in the nuclear war book stuff like in in the nuclear war book and that Lex was talking with her about and that Lex was talking with her about and that Lex was talking with her about was the notion that some archaeologists was the notion that some archaeologists was the notion that some archaeologists it actually reminds me did you ever what it actually reminds me did you ever what it actually reminds me did you ever what was uh God what was it called um afri it was uh God what was it called um afri it was uh God what was it called um afri it it was a short story I don't if it was it was a short story I don't if it was it was a short story I don't if it was Asimov or somebody else but it was Asimov or somebody else but it was Asimov or somebody else but it was basically the notion where civilization basically the notion where civilization basically the notion where civilization kind of is rebooting about every 5,000 kind of is rebooting about every 5,000 kind of is rebooting about every 5,000 or however many years 2,000 years or however many years 2,000 years or however many years 2,000 years basically it's called Nightfall that was basically it's called Nightfall that was basically it's called Nightfall that was the short story you may have read sci-fi the short story you may have read sci-fi the short story you may have read sci-fi and basically it's always daylight and basically it's always daylight and basically it's always daylight there's three suns in the sky and whole there's three suns in the sky and whole there's three suns in the sky and whole civilization grows and advances whatever civilization grows and advances whatever civilization grows and advances whatever but then once every 2,000 years all but then once every 2,000 years all but then once every 2,000 years all three Suns set and it's Darkness for the three Suns set and it's Darkness for the three Suns set and it's Darkness for the first time and no one knows what it is first time and no one knows what it is first time and no one knows what it is and they everyone goes inane and and they everyone goes inane and and they everyone goes inane and destroys civilization Burns it to the destroys civilization Burns it to the destroys civilization Burns it to the ground and the next day civilization ground and the next day civilization ground and the next day civilization starts over starts over starts over again and so the discussion around just again and so the discussion around just again and so the discussion around just nuclear war was is the possibility you nuclear war was is the possibility you nuclear war was is the possibility you know she talks to obviously the horror know she talks to obviously the horror know she talks to obviously the horror of it all the you know the whole of it all the you know the whole of it all the you know the whole exchange will probably be over in about exchange will probably be over in about exchange will probably be over in about 72 minutes and and so there's the 72 minutes and and so there's the 72 minutes and and so there's the Fallout there's nuclear winner and we

Fallout there's nuclear winner and we Fallout there's nuclear winner and we talked about nuclear winner You Know talked about nuclear winner You Know talked about nuclear winner You Know Carl Sean was one of the people who Carl Sean was one of the people who Carl Sean was one of the people who wrote the paper on nuclear winter in wrote the paper on nuclear winter in wrote the paper on nuclear winter in 1980 or whatever yeah um and they even 1980 or whatever yeah um and they even 1980 or whatever yeah um and they even admitted back then we have crude admitted back then we have crude admitted back then we have crude computers doing this modeling they've computers doing this modeling they've computers doing this modeling they've done the modeling today turns out it's done the modeling today turns out it's done the modeling today turns out it's actually worse than what they thought um actually worse than what they thought um actually worse than what they thought um great but but the notion that all great but but the notion that all great but but the notion that all civilization could go civilization could go civilization could go away you know nuclear winner could it away you know nuclear winner could it away you know nuclear winner could it could be 10 years of darkness and cold could be 10 years of darkness and cold could be 10 years of darkness and cold and agriculture's gone everything's gone and agriculture's gone everything's gone and agriculture's gone everything's gone and then you start over like who's left and then you start over like who's left and then you start over like who's left there's no technology plan of the apes Planet of technology plan of the apes Planet of the Apes my friend take the should we the Apes my friend take the should we the Apes my friend take the should we take the silo cbon before or after take the silo cbon before or after take the silo cbon before or after reading the book yeah reading the book yeah reading the book yeah actually I have a I have a an actually I have a I have a an actually I have a I have a an alternative book it's called the history alternative book it's called the history alternative book it's called the history of Catty Shack of Catty Shack of Catty Shack um also just as deep and profound I um also just as deep and profound I um also just as deep and profound I think is the one Rob was reading but uh think is the one Rob was reading but uh think is the one Rob was reading but uh in a different cultural touchdown in a different cultural touchdown in a different cultural touchdown Cinderella boy first time good St okay Cinderella boy first time good St okay Cinderella boy first time good St okay so now now you need to explain how iot so now now you need to explain how iot so now now you need to explain how iot is going to save us you can't is going to save us you can't is going to save us you can't just bring up nuclear winter and War and just bring up nuclear winter and War and just bring up nuclear winter and War and Devastation without about how iot is Devastation without about how iot is Devastation without about how iot is going to it basically started by saying going to it basically started by saying going to it basically started by saying it w because as soon as we have this it w because as soon as we have this it w because as soon as we have this kind of you know the first ideas of kind of you know the first ideas of kind of you know the first ideas of digital twin you can observe things the digital twin you can observe things the digital twin you can observe things the second one is you can control them and second one is you can control them and second one is you can control them and if you add AI on top of that but

if you add AI on top of that but if you add AI on top of that but actually on the initial point I was actually on the initial point I was actually on the initial point I was saying is that the problem is that we saying is that the problem is that we saying is that the problem is that we think of the AI we have today and you think of the AI we have today and you think of the AI we have today and you heard me saying that the AI we have heard me saying that the AI we have heard me saying that the AI we have today pretty much mimic the human maybe today pretty much mimic the human maybe today pretty much mimic the human maybe there's room from an AI that is actually there's room from an AI that is actually there's room from an AI that is actually much smarter and much wiser than the much smarter and much wiser than the much smarter and much wiser than the human at some point and this one I might human at some point and this one I might human at some point and this one I might want him in control of the nuclear want him in control of the nuclear want him in control of the nuclear Arsenal I don't know I don't know Arsenal I don't know I don't know Arsenal I don't know I don't know yeah but why not why why why is the yeah but why not why why why is the yeah but why not why why why is the assumption that thei should mimic the assumption that thei should mimic the assumption that thei should mimic the human one yeah why is the Assumption it human one yeah why is the Assumption it human one yeah why is the Assumption it could be could be could be okay it's a good one good point like you okay it's a good one good point like you okay it's a good one good point like you know when Lex is talking to Annie and know when Lex is talking to Annie and know when Lex is talking to Annie and they talk about the book the notion of they talk about the book the notion of they talk about the book the notion of all the Hawks in the chain of command all the Hawks in the chain of command all the Hawks in the chain of command you know the weird weirdest saying I you know the weird weirdest saying I you know the weird weirdest saying I don't want to get political here but don't want to get political here but don't want to get political here but they talk about what the average voter they talk about what the average voter they talk about what the average voter doesn't think about is the most doesn't think about is the most doesn't think about is the most important thing the president important thing the president important thing the president potentially has to do because it potentially has to do because it potentially has to do because it actually comes down to one person and actually comes down to one person and actually comes down to one person and there's a six-minute window as soon as there's a six-minute window as soon as there's a six-minute window as soon as we detect launch like if it's the we detect launch like if it's the we detect launch like if it's the Russians or North Koreans or Russians or North Koreans or Russians or North Koreans or whoever you they get to the president whoever you they get to the president whoever you they get to the president they got six minutes to decide am I they got six minutes to decide am I they got six minutes to decide am I going to do this or not or as Annie going to do this or not or as Annie going to do this or not or as Annie Jacobson says they pull out the little Jacobson says they pull out the little Jacobson says they pull out the little lamin Denny's menu of targets and stuff lamin Denny's menu of targets and stuff lamin Denny's menu of targets and stuff like that and they the discussion was like that and they the discussion was like that and they the discussion was the president you're voting for needs to the president you're voting for needs to the president you're voting for needs to be thoughtful wise really here all there

be thoughtful wise really here all there be thoughtful wise really here all there cognitive you know whatever kind of cognitive you know whatever kind of cognitive you know whatever kind of thing thing thing because it's something no one because it's something no one because it's something no one thinks dark episode a dark episode thinks dark episode a dark episode thinks dark episode a dark episode ofic we're in fiction now right yes yes ofic we're in fiction now right yes yes ofic we're in fiction now right yes yes we are yeah well at least it's laminated we are yeah well at least it's laminated we are yeah well at least it's laminated they got it's laminated you know but they got it's laminated you know but they got it's laminated you know but yeah but they it's interesting all the yeah but they it's interesting all the yeah but they it's interesting all the interviews said most of the presidents interviews said most of the presidents interviews said most of the presidents don't even have any training or think don't even have any training or think don't even have any training or think about this at all and so when it happens about this at all and so when it happens about this at all and so when it happens the reality is secret service is going the reality is secret service is going the reality is secret service is going to be rushing the president trying to to be rushing the president trying to to be rushing the president trying to get them safe somewhere because get them safe somewhere because get them safe somewhere because obviously a one Megaton is heading obviously a one Megaton is heading obviously a one Megaton is heading towards DC um but at the same time us towards DC um but at the same time us towards DC um but at the same time us stratom in Nebraska that guy's like I stratom in Nebraska that guy's like I stratom in Nebraska that guy's like I need the codes from the president you need the codes from the president you need the codes from the president you know and the and the problem is is a lot know and the and the problem is is a lot know and the and the problem is is a lot of the people in that that of the people in that that of the people in that that chain outside of the president who's chain outside of the president who's chain outside of the president who's still a human being you know a lot of still a human being you know a lot of still a human being you know a lot of them you know you talk about doish them you know you talk about doish them you know you talk about doish people versus hawkish people well guess people versus hawkish people well guess people versus hawkish people well guess what a lot of those people in the rest what a lot of those people in the rest what a lot of those people in the rest of the chain are like let's get them and of the chain are like let's get them and of the chain are like let's get them and so it's no question in their mind and so so it's no question in their mind and so so it's no question in their mind and so it's it's really interesting but R it's it's really interesting but R it's it's really interesting but R they'll be in a club house call the they'll be in a club house call the they'll be in a club house call the whole time and they can just pass each whole time and they can just pass each whole time and they can just pass each other the codes yeah you're right you're other the codes yeah you're right you're other the codes yeah you're right you're right I mean the bunker yeah it's going right I mean the bunker yeah it's going right I mean the bunker yeah it's going to be like the game and TV show you know to be like the game and TV show you know to be like the game and TV show you know I I would like I would like to share a I I would like I would like to share a I I would like I would like to share a quote I am rewatching the docu docu

quote I am rewatching the docu docu quote I am rewatching the docu docu drama docu series H Chernobyl written by amazing writ really really good that by amazing writ really really good that was really good that's like pure HBO was really good that's like pure HBO was really good that's like pure HBO right there yes yes HBO goodness yeah right there yes yes HBO goodness yeah right there yes yes HBO goodness yeah really awes a quote by the character really awes a quote by the character really awes a quote by the character Boris sherina and and I I will read it Boris sherina and and I I will read it Boris sherina and and I I will read it because I just watch this is relevant to because I just watch this is relevant to because I just watch this is relevant to the whole nuclear thing and it says the whole nuclear thing and it says the whole nuclear thing and it says quote when it's your life and the lives quote when it's your life and the lives quote when it's your life and the lives of everyone you love your moral of everyone you love your moral of everyone you love your moral conviction doesn't mean anything end conviction doesn't mean anything end conviction doesn't mean anything end quote so do we really want so back to quote so do we really want so back to quote so do we really want so back to back to Ai and the nuclear thing what is back to Ai and the nuclear thing what is back to Ai and the nuclear thing what is its moral conviction so but that's the its moral conviction so but that's the its moral conviction so but that's the point and that no no I'm saying is that point and that no no I'm saying is that point and that no no I'm saying is that that really want because there is no that really want because there is no that really want because there is no moral conviction and it's about moral conviction and it's about moral conviction and it's about protecting um anyway I'm trying to back protecting um anyway I'm trying to back protecting um anyway I'm trying to back up your argument because human human up your argument because human human up your argument because human human intelligence evolved but we still have intelligence evolved but we still have intelligence evolved but we still have the corean type of piece of our brain the corean type of piece of our brain the corean type of piece of our brain that is survival because we exist that is survival because we exist that is survival because we exist because of survival in a world of because of survival in a world of because of survival in a world of natural selection do we have to inject natural selection do we have to inject natural selection do we have to inject that Concept in AI I'm not sure and if that Concept in AI I'm not sure and if that Concept in AI I'm not sure and if we do not maybe we'll have something we do not maybe we'll have something we do not maybe we'll have something better and but you know this is my better and but you know this is my better and but you know this is my frustration has always been about frustration has always been about frustration has always been about artificial intelligence we kind of think artificial intelligence we kind of think artificial intelligence we kind of think that the human intelligence is the kind that the human intelligence is the kind that the human intelligence is the kind of the secret thing that we need to of the secret thing that we need to of the secret thing that we need to reach maybe no maybe it's another form reach maybe no maybe it's another form reach maybe no maybe it's another form of intelligence that can teach us things of intelligence that can teach us things of intelligence that can teach us things we all I think we all have examples of we all I think we all have examples of we all I think we all have examples of human intelligence and maybe it's not

human intelligence and maybe it's not human intelligence and maybe it's not something we want to something we want to something we want to emulate the that's why my old my old emulate the that's why my old my old emulate the that's why my old my old philosophy about that if you want philosophy about that if you want philosophy about that if you want observation that as long as we use observation that as long as we use observation that as long as we use purely human mechanism to try to train purely human mechanism to try to train purely human mechanism to try to train those models we only going to get human those models we only going to get human those models we only going to get human things we yeah right just don't try to teach we yeah right just don't try to teach him common sense just leave that out the him common sense just leave that out the him common sense just leave that out the window because it's not common why window because it's not common why window because it's not common why Common Common Common Sense common sense is actually a Pandora Sense common sense is actually a Pandora Sense common sense is actually a Pandora box because it's actually related to box because it's actually related to box because it's actually related to moral principle or processes as that's moral principle or processes as that's moral principle or processes as that's what I'm saying right I mean it long as what I'm saying right I mean it long as what I'm saying right I mean it long as we don't try to teach a common sense it we don't try to teach a common sense it we don't try to teach a common sense it it's it'll be fine I thought it was it's it'll be fine I thought it was it's it'll be fine I thought it was based on physics but okay you know but based on physics but okay you know but based on physics but okay you know but hold on if we're going to talk about hold on if we're going to talk about hold on if we're going to talk about common sense and humans I mean guys common sense and humans I mean guys common sense and humans I mean guys folks we are putting a label on a gallon folks we are putting a label on a gallon folks we are putting a label on a gallon of bleach that says do not drink this of bleach that says do not drink this of bleach that says do not drink this thing yeah I'm gonna drink thing yeah I'm gonna drink thing yeah I'm gonna drink it well you know don't push the button it well you know don't push the button it well you know don't push the button no yeah yeah well you know here's the no yeah yeah well you know here's the no yeah yeah well you know here's the thing you have to make a distinction thing you have to make a distinction thing you have to make a distinction between individual intelligence and then between individual intelligence and then between individual intelligence and then aggregate societal intelligence yeah Ive aggregate societal intelligence yeah Ive aggregate societal intelligence yeah Ive intelligence and I think there's that intelligence and I think there's that intelligence and I think there's that that whole Humanity part in the book that whole Humanity part in the book that whole Humanity part in the book there's the notion so many people are there's the notion so many people are there's the notion so many people are wiped out so the secretary of defense is wiped out so the secretary of defense is wiped out so the secretary of defense is now the acting president and of all now the acting president and of all now the acting president and of all people when they're like we need a people when they're like we need a people when they're like we need a decision now we need the codes let's do decision now we need the codes let's do decision now we need the codes let's do it and of all people he's like wait a

it and of all people he's like wait a it and of all people he's like wait a second what M what for the good of second what M what for the good of second what M what for the good of humanity maybe we should just absorb the humanity maybe we should just absorb the humanity maybe we should just absorb the impact and not impact and not impact and not retaliate um and because the policy is retaliate um and because the policy is retaliate um and because the policy is automatic retali automatic retali automatic retali it's not if it's what targets and so it's not if it's what targets and so it's not if it's what targets and so there was that notion CU you know as she there was that notion CU you know as she there was that notion CU you know as she says in the book it wasn't until Reagan says in the book it wasn't until Reagan says in the book it wasn't until Reagan and gorbachov got on stage together and and gorbachov got on stage together and and gorbachov got on stage together and both claimed you know nuclear war is not both claimed you know nuclear war is not both claimed you know nuclear war is not winnable and it's Insanity prior to that winnable and it's Insanity prior to that winnable and it's Insanity prior to that all these generals and presidents all these generals and presidents all these generals and presidents believed you could win that war somehow believed you could win that war somehow believed you could win that war somehow you know that you could fight an active you know that you could fight an active you know that you could fight an active nuclear war and and somehow win and nuclear war and and somehow win and nuclear war and and somehow win and finally like you can't win it's genocide finally like you can't win it's genocide finally like you can't win it's genocide automatic you know yeah you you know automatic you know yeah you you know automatic you know yeah you you know that you know what's crazy no okay uh that you know what's crazy no okay uh that you know what's crazy no okay uh the sarcasm coming here but um someone the sarcasm coming here but um someone the sarcasm coming here but um someone had to do like the financial modeling had to do like the financial modeling had to do like the financial modeling behind like there's an influence here of behind like there's an influence here of behind like there's an influence here of like hey if they're going to shoot their like hey if they're going to shoot their like hey if they're going to shoot their nukes you want to shoot their nukes and nukes you want to shoot their nukes and nukes you want to shoot their nukes and there's some guy with a spreadsheet is there's some guy with a spreadsheet is there's some guy with a spreadsheet is like hey if they fire all of them we can like hey if they fire all of them we can like hey if they fire all of them we can reup the order so yes we like that reup the order so yes we like that reup the order so yes we like that policy and if somehow we surv it I got a policy and if somehow we surv it I got a policy and if somehow we surv it I got a PO right here baby I got to refill all PO right here baby I got to refill all PO right here baby I got to refill all these nuclear warheads and here we go these nuclear warheads and here we go these nuclear warheads and here we go bill is shaking his head going like damn bill is shaking his head going like damn bill is shaking his head going like damn it David you're right but I don't want it David you're right but I don't want it David you're right but I don't want to talk about it but it's true someone to talk about it but it's true someone to talk about it but it's true someone inserted financial model into this thing inserted financial model into this thing inserted financial model into this thing yes that's why we need I'm sure a lot of

yes that's why we need I'm sure a lot of yes that's why we need I'm sure a lot of people people people have but we need the Fifth Element we have but we need the Fifth Element we have but we need the Fifth Element we need to find a Fifth Element very need to find a Fifth Element very need to find a Fifth Element very quickly yes yeah yeah I did see a blur quickly yes yeah yeah I did see a blur quickly yes yeah yeah I did see a blur remember that that's what Z was all remember that that's what Z was all remember that that's what Z was all about yeah I remember absolutely come on about yeah I remember absolutely come on about yeah I remember absolutely come on this is the easiest solution we don't this is the easiest solution we don't this is the easiest solution we don't want to solve the problem so we're GNA r want to solve the problem so we're GNA r want to solve the problem so we're GNA r on something that doesn't exist to give on something that doesn't exist to give on something that doesn't exist to give us the answer so sounds about right well us the answer so sounds about right well us the answer so sounds about right well I did see some blur like Kurt vonette I I did see some blur like Kurt vonette I I did see some blur like Kurt vonette I think made some quote you know we're think made some quote you know we're think made some quote you know we're smart enough to save ourselves but it smart enough to save ourselves but it smart enough to save ourselves but it didn't make Financial didn't make Financial didn't make Financial sense well there's an there's an sense well there's an there's an sense well there's an there's an interesting thing you said I hear Rob as interesting thing you said I hear Rob as interesting thing you said I hear Rob as well you smart have to our individually well you smart have to our individually well you smart have to our individually probably as a civilization I don't think probably as a civilization I don't think probably as a civilization I don't think so I think that's the difference yeah so I think that's the difference yeah so I think that's the difference yeah the primary instincts are still too much the primary instincts are still too much the primary instincts are still too much there the prim mind there individual there the prim mind there individual there the prim mind there individual yeah yeah and of course that's what yeah yeah and of course that's what yeah yeah and of course that's what kicks in after whatever handful of kicks in after whatever handful of kicks in after whatever handful of people are left after all the the people are left after all the the people are left after all the the radiation's gone and the nuclear radiation's gone and the nuclear radiation's gone and the nuclear Winter's gone it's like every Winter's gone it's like every Winter's gone it's like every post-apocalyptic movie humans go down to post-apocalyptic movie humans go down to post-apocalyptic movie humans go down to their basis survival levels and do their basis survival levels and do their basis survival levels and do things that you wouldn't normally do in things that you wouldn't normally do in things that you wouldn't normally do in society right yeah I mean yeah it's like society right yeah I mean yeah it's like society right yeah I mean yeah it's like um fight for the sake of what um fight for the sake of what um fight for the sake of what that you know future it's like it that you know future it's like it that you know future it's like it doesn't make any sense but you know I doesn't make any sense but you know I doesn't make any sense but you know I mean as Tay mean as Tay mean as Tay proved back you know project T um proved

proved back you know project T um proved proved back you know project T um proved we're pretty you know as a society we we're pretty you know as a society we we're pretty you know as a society we could be pretty sick and you know it could be pretty sick and you know it could be pretty sick and you know it begs the begs the begs the question you know uh you have a lot of question you know uh you have a lot of question you know uh you have a lot of these companies now talking about oh um these companies now talking about oh um these companies now talking about oh um now you can ground our AI search with now you can ground our AI search with now you can ground our AI search with the web or our our search engine or the web or our our search engine or the web or our our search engine or whatever the internet and it's like is whatever the internet and it's like is whatever the internet and it's like is that supposed to make me uh more that supposed to make me uh more that supposed to make me uh more comfortable and they characterize it as comfortable and they characterize it as comfortable and they characterize it as factual TR they use these terms to factual TR they use these terms to factual TR they use these terms to characterize that but can you trust the characterize that but can you trust the characterize that but can you trust the mean and the mode of like all the mean and the mode of like all the mean and the mode of like all the contradictions in society swimming in a contradictions in society swimming in a contradictions in society swimming in a polluted and yeah I mean it's so polluted and yeah I mean it's so polluted and yeah I mean it's so polluted and and disgusting I mean it's polluted and and disgusting I mean it's polluted and and disgusting I mean it's like really bad data where's the filter like really bad data where's the filter like really bad data where's the filter and then the the question though is what and then the the question though is what and then the the question though is what should that filter look like and nobody should that filter look like and nobody should that filter look like and nobody has that well one of the the challenges has that well one of the the challenges has that well one of the the challenges I mean you you've heard about that I mean you you've heard about that I mean you you've heard about that challenges the larger and larger llms challenges the larger and larger llms challenges the larger and larger llms need more and more data to train on need more and more data to train on need more and more data to train on there's not enough text there's not there's not enough text there's not there's not enough text there's not enough video and so of course when enough video and so of course when enough video and so of course when there's you know they're just going to there's you know they're just going to there's you know they're just going to grab whatever they can uh good bad and grab whatever they can uh good bad and grab whatever they can uh good bad and ugly in terms of data to train things ugly in terms of data to train things ugly in terms of data to train things because there's just not enough of it because there's just not enough of it because there's just not enough of it and so then we end up with models with and so then we end up with models with and so then we end up with models with training that are you know it's trained training that are you know it's trained training that are you know it's trained on kind of garbagey stuff not all of it on kind of garbagey stuff not all of it on kind of garbagey stuff not all of it but you know it's it's trending in that but you know it's it's trending in that but you know it's it's trending in that direction because once you get to like a direction because once you get to like a direction because once you get to like a trillion you know data points then where trillion you know data points then where trillion you know data points then where are you going to get the data to train are you going to get the data to train are you going to get the data to train it on yeah you hear about data poisoning it on yeah you hear about data poisoning it on yeah you hear about data poisoning you know it's even worse than that you know it's even worse than that you know it's even worse than that because it's it's so it's becoming so

because it's it's so it's becoming so because it's it's so it's becoming so difficult to distinguish the content difficult to distinguish the content difficult to distinguish the content that was truly created and the content that was truly created and the content that was truly created and the content that was already generated so we're that was already generated so we're that was already generated so we're going to going to going to yeah yeah yeah on he he CLE down and that's why tiny ml on he he CLE down and that's why tiny ml on he he CLE down and that's why tiny ml is so important see we found a way we is so important see we found a way we is so important see we found a way we brought it all the way back to Tiny mL brought it all the way back to Tiny mL brought it all the way back to Tiny mL no seriously I I mean but that that's no seriously I I mean but that that's no seriously I I mean but that that's where I think the the potential for safe where I think the the potential for safe where I think the the potential for safe uses of these generative AI tools um can uses of these generative AI tools um can uses of these generative AI tools um can happen right and in in certain isolation happen right and in in certain isolation happen right and in in certain isolation and focus and focus and focus these broader things and so you know these broader things and so you know these broader things and so you know there really are actually three or four there really are actually three or four there really are actually three or four conversations about generative AI right conversations about generative AI right conversations about generative AI right we kind of generalized gen gen AI in a we kind of generalized gen gen AI in a we kind of generalized gen gen AI in a in a broad way and but the threats the in a broad way and but the threats the in a broad way and but the threats the benefits are really different at benefits are really different at benefits are really different at different tiers right I mean I've seen different tiers right I mean I've seen different tiers right I mean I've seen some really useful generative AI some really useful generative AI some really useful generative AI functions not applications functions not applications functions not applications functions um functions um functions um but yeah it happens in isolation it but yeah it happens in isolation it but yeah it happens in isolation it doesn't I this whole like zero shot one doesn't I this whole like zero shot one doesn't I this whole like zero shot one shot type stuff where it produces magic shot type stuff where it produces magic shot type stuff where it produces magic I have not seen that right I've seen a I have not seen that right I've seen a I have not seen that right I've seen a lot of hallucination I think part of it lot of hallucination I think part of it lot of hallucination I think part of it too is uh we talked about the training too is uh we talked about the training too is uh we talked about the training there's no yeah there's no transparency there's no yeah there's no transparency there's no yeah there's no transparency on the training data like you know every on the training data like you know every on the training data like you know every piece of every food that you food item piece of every food that you food item piece of every food that you food item you get it Safeway it's got an you get it Safeway it's got an you get it Safeway it's got an ingredients list you know kind of ingredients list you know kind of ingredients list you know kind of basically what's in there there's no basically what's in there there's no basically what's in there there's no equivalent for AI to say this model was

equivalent for AI to say this model was equivalent for AI to say this model was trained on this or trained on this or trained on this or whatever reading like you know what whatever reading like you know what whatever reading like you know what running the whole point about we running running the whole point about we running running the whole point about we running out of data to train it on and so people out of data to train it on and so people out of data to train it on and so people are grabbing whatever they can here's are grabbing whatever they can here's are grabbing whatever they can here's myc here's the best works from Adolf myc here's the best works from Adolf myc here's the best works from Adolf Hitler here read what Paul pot was Hitler here read what Paul pot was Hitler here read what Paul pot was thinking you know and and stuff like thinking you know and and stuff like thinking you know and and stuff like that and all that gets in there too and that and all that gets in there too and that and all that gets in there too and and it's not transparent it's just data and it's not transparent it's just data and it's not transparent it's just data and then you wonder why the outputs are and then you wonder why the outputs are and then you wonder why the outputs are bizarre yeah you guys you guys are bizarre yeah you guys you guys are bizarre yeah you guys you guys are proposing like a table of contents a proposing like a table of contents a proposing like a table of contents a Providence ingredients list so transpar Providence ingredients list so transpar Providence ingredients list so transpar ingredients and and that what's the ingredients and and that what's the ingredients and and that what's the creation process because it's the creation process because it's the creation process because it's the creation it's the most important one creation it's the most important one creation it's the most important one because what they that where we are it because what they that where we are it because what they that where we are it could be fun actually to train AI model could be fun actually to train AI model could be fun actually to train AI model who is complete garbage to see fun stuff who is complete garbage to see fun stuff who is complete garbage to see fun stuff I mean maybe this is the future of humor I mean maybe this is the future of humor I mean maybe this is the future of humor actually if you think wasn't that grock actually if you think wasn't that grock actually if you think wasn't that grock isn't that Elon musk's isn't that Elon musk's isn't that Elon musk's Gro Twitter which you know is pretty Gro Twitter which you know is pretty Gro Twitter which you know is pretty equivalent to G I mean you just don't equivalent to G I mean you just don't equivalent to G I mean you just don't know where things are going to go do you know where things are going to go do you know where things are going to go do you remember the movie contact when they're remember the movie contact when they're remember the movie contact when they're you you you know you know and they first figure out know you know and they first figure out know you know and they first figure out what the pictures are in contact you what the pictures are in contact you what the pictures are in contact you know Jody Foster and everything oh that know Jody Foster and everything oh that know Jody Foster and everything oh that right yeah yeah I got it and you know right yeah yeah I got it and you know right yeah yeah I got it and you know they're down at the vaa and then they they're down at the vaa and then they they're down at the vaa and then they put together the first images from the put together the first images from the put together the first images from the civilization and a and what is it it was civilization and a and what is it it was civilization and a and what is it it was the very first ever broadcast that was the very first ever broadcast that was the very first ever broadcast that was done from the earth that made it out done from the earth that made it out done from the earth that made it out into space and it took all these years into space and it took all these years into space and it took all these years what was the broadcast it was the Berlin what was the broadcast it was the Berlin what was the broadcast it was the Berlin Olympics with Olympics with Olympics with Hitler and that was the first thing that

Hitler and that was the first thing that Hitler and that was the first thing that alien civilization saw from mankind alien civilization saw from mankind alien civilization saw from mankind because speed light is so slow and it because speed light is so slow and it because speed light is so slow and it took all that timeo spoiler alert spoiler alert sorry timeo spoiler alert spoiler alert sorry hey I got to do disclaimer first uh hey I got to do disclaimer first uh hey I got to do disclaimer first uh especially for what I'm going to say especially for what I'm going to say especially for what I'm going to say next so for those of you who are next so for those of you who are next so for those of you who are watching please take us seriously at watching please take us seriously at watching please take us seriously at your own risk we're having fun here as your own risk we're having fun here as your own risk we're having fun here as you can probably tell and um that's you can probably tell and um that's you can probably tell and um that's pretty right yeah don't be investing in pretty right yeah don't be investing in pretty right yeah don't be investing in Bitcoin and all that other nonsense Bitcoin and all that other nonsense Bitcoin and all that other nonsense based on anything that we say but I I I based on anything that we say but I I I based on anything that we say but I I I do think you guys give all these AI do think you guys give all these AI do think you guys give all these AI companies way too much credit it's quite companies way too much credit it's quite companies way too much credit it's quite obvious what they're doing they are they obvious what they're doing they are they obvious what they're doing they are they are training off of One Source One are training off of One Source One are training off of One Source One Source Source Source only the movie only the movie only the movie her that's it that's all you her that's it that's all you her that's it that's all you need all these need all these need all these things vable product things vable product things vable product yes pocket here yes and it it and yes pocket here yes and it it and yes pocket here yes and it it and Scarlet Johansson's with me at all times Scarlet Johansson's with me at all times Scarlet Johansson's with me at all times yeah and it could do the highest order yeah and it could do the highest order yeah and it could do the highest order of controlling any human being which is of controlling any human being which is of controlling any human being which is it will make you fall in love with it it will make you fall in love with it it will make you fall in love with it you know obviously there was no shortage you know obviously there was no shortage you know obviously there was no shortage after the look at after the look at after the look at you nuclear explosion you nuclear explosion you nuclear explosion [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] idea the gpus on your MacBook work well

idea the gpus on your MacBook work well idea the gpus on your MacBook work well your ego is growing now that you shine your ego is growing now that you shine your ego is growing now that you shine right the whole the gtt whole the gtt 4 40 and everything and then you're 4 40 and everything and then you're 4 40 and everything and then you're right you saw all the her memes going right you saw all the her memes going right you saw all the her memes going everywhere and then someone noticed they everywhere and then someone noticed they everywhere and then someone noticed they go did you notice the voice when they're go did you notice the voice when they're go did you notice the voice when they're talking it does sound like Scarlett talking it does sound like Scarlett talking it does sound like Scarlett Johansson and then people found clips of Johansson and then people found clips of Johansson and then people found clips of Sam Alman where he's making comments Sam Alman where he's making comments Sam Alman where he's making comments about her and how it seemed silly then about her and how it seemed silly then about her and how it seemed silly then but actually now it kind of makes a but actually now it kind of makes a but actually now it kind of makes a sense it's one of the hot growth areas sense it's one of the hot growth areas sense it's one of the hot growth areas for AI right now is for these kind of for AI right now is for these kind of for AI right now is for these kind of chat Bots for you know lonely young men chat Bots for you know lonely young men chat Bots for you know lonely young men basically and companionship basically and companionship basically and companionship companionship you know guys this this companionship you know guys this this companionship you know guys this this make me think that maybe because we had make me think that maybe because we had make me think that maybe because we had this kind of you know I wasn't that this kind of you know I wasn't that this kind of you know I wasn't that present at that time but we had a couple present at that time but we had a couple present at that time but we had a couple of years ago all this discussion about of years ago all this discussion about of years ago all this discussion about the metaverse and uh maybe maybe the metaverse and uh maybe maybe the metaverse and uh maybe maybe metaverse remember that metaverse remember that metaverse remember that is the point maybe maybe we've invented is the point maybe maybe we've invented is the point maybe maybe we've invented gen to actually make the metor work gen to actually make the metor work gen to actually make the metor work because we couldn't get people in this because we couldn't get people in this because we couldn't get people in this virtual world so we're bringing the virtual world so we're bringing the virtual world so we're bringing the virtual kind of things to the real world virtual kind of things to the real world virtual kind of things to the real world through gen so maybe that's that's through gen so maybe that's that's through gen so maybe that's that's that's the model maybe go that's the model maybe go that's the model maybe go needed here's your company Rob let's go needed here's your company Rob let's go needed here's your company Rob let's go pitch that to VC and get funding theree pitch that to VC and get funding theree pitch that to VC and get funding theree in Reverse yeah make the metaverse a in Reverse yeah make the metaverse a in Reverse yeah make the metaverse a reality through J you got the tag nine

reality through J you got the tag nine reality through J you got the tag nine yeah it's AR version of it there was the yeah it's AR version of it there was the yeah it's AR version of it there was the VR concept which was silly yeah so it's VR concept which was silly yeah so it's VR concept which was silly yeah so it's the AR one is not and there's a lot of the AR one is not and there's a lot of the AR one is not and there's a lot of iot related to it it's exactly that so iot related to it it's exactly that so iot related to it it's exactly that so the the the Gen is kind of the sneaky the the the Gen is kind of the sneaky the the the Gen is kind of the sneaky way to make the VAV verse in the reality way to make the VAV verse in the reality way to make the VAV verse in the reality of the physical of the physical of the physical world you think it's that sneaky I think world you think it's that sneaky I think world you think it's that sneaky I think these things just happened but yeah you these things just happened but yeah you these things just happened but yeah you you've definitely connected a DOT um and you've definitely connected a DOT um and you've definitely connected a DOT um and um Debbie Reynolds and I talked about um Debbie Reynolds and I talked about um Debbie Reynolds and I talked about this like two years ago at least that this like two years ago at least that this like two years ago at least that there are two varieties and she often there are two varieties and she often there are two varieties and she often times fixates on the AR version you know times fixates on the AR version you know times fixates on the AR version you know because what we're doing is we're because what we're doing is we're because what we're doing is we're exposing our personal information and exposing our personal information and exposing our personal information and then there's going to become this then there's going to become this then there's going to become this intersect between our real selves and intersect between our real selves and intersect between our real selves and all this these you know digital all this these you know digital all this these you know digital entities uh but it's not necessarily entities uh but it's not necessarily entities uh but it's not necessarily that you're going to be living in a that you're going to be living in a that you're going to be living in a virtual world with and engaging in a virtual world with and engaging in a virtual world with and engaging in a virtual world the Dig it's like a cyber virtual world the Dig it's like a cyber virtual world the Dig it's like a cyber physical melding you will AR version but physical melding you will AR version but physical melding you will AR version but that one is the more disturbing version that one is the more disturbing version that one is the more disturbing version the other version is pretty creepy the the other version is pretty creepy the the other version is pretty creepy the other one actually has like you know other one actually has like you know other one actually has like you know direct immediate physical impact you direct immediate physical impact you direct immediate physical impact you know to to our lives that's the thing know to to our lives that's the thing know to to our lives that's the thing that is disturbing about it and then that is disturbing about it and then that is disturbing about it and then it's hard to distinguish what's real ver it's hard to distinguish what's real ver it's hard to distinguish what's real ver what's like sort of cyber versus what's

what's like sort of cyber versus what's what's like sort of cyber versus what's I don't even know what we're talking I don't even know what we're talking I don't even know what we're talking about anymore it's got so weird somebody about anymore it's got so weird somebody about anymore it's got so weird somebody some of the some of the some of the clips people were putting out with the clips people were putting out with the clips people were putting out with the moment when Walken Phoenix is talking to moment when Walken Phoenix is talking to moment when Walken Phoenix is talking to Scarlett Johansson and he finds out that Scarlett Johansson and he finds out that Scarlett Johansson and he finds out that she's actually has relationships with she's actually has relationships with she's actually has relationships with like 8,000 other people at the same time like 8,000 other people at the same time like 8,000 other people at the same time and he was like and he was like and he was like oh how many of them are you in love with oh how many of them are you in love with oh how many of them are you in love with yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 613 and that and that was before we were 613 and that and that was before we were 613 and that and that was before we were using the the the the description of using the the the the description of using the the the the description of body count we got it there that's a big body count we got it there that's a big body count we got it there that's a big body count and uh and what Leonard is body count and uh and what Leonard is body count and uh and what Leonard is talking about over Rio is the question talking about over Rio is the question talking about over Rio is the question that the uh GameStop short sellers were that the uh GameStop short sellers were that the uh GameStop short sellers were asking about four and a half days asking about four and a half days asking about four and a half days ago yeah ago yeah ago yeah back well no remember you remember when back well no remember you remember when back well no remember you remember when that that scene where he goes on a that that scene where he goes on a that that scene where he goes on a picnic with his picnic with his picnic with his friends and um it's a human couple that friends and um it's a human couple that friends and um it's a human couple that he's going out with he has I'm going to he's going out with he has I'm going to he's going out with he has I'm going to bring my girlfriend with yeah that's the thing they're not in a yeah that's the thing they're not in a virtual world but it's this really virtual world but it's this really virtual world but it's this really creepy confl reality yeah I know I mean creepy confl reality yeah I know I mean creepy confl reality yeah I know I mean my girlfriend say hi to my girlfriend say hi to my girlfriend say hi to her yeah but you know here the thing is her yeah but you know here the thing is her yeah but you know here the thing is is now you can have all the you know I is now you can have all the you know I is now you can have all the you know I don't know if you if you've noticed like don't know if you if you've noticed like don't know if you if you've noticed like you go to any of these um social sites you go to any of these um social sites you go to any of these um social sites you get bomb barded with like you know

you get bomb barded with like you know you get bomb barded with like you know um you know wife finding you know um you know wife finding you know um you know wife finding you know advertisements you know here you know advertisements you know here you know advertisements you know here you know want to meet like a m wife from Ukraine want to meet like a m wife from Ukraine want to meet like a m wife from Ukraine or some some like that I don't but yeah or some some like that I don't but yeah or some some like that I don't but yeah we're not really sure what sites you're we're not really sure what sites you're we're not really sure what sites you're talking about like like what's talking about like like what's talking about like like what's happening that did not sound like happening that did not sound like happening that did not sound like LinkedIn at all I just incriminated LinkedIn at all I just incriminated LinkedIn at all I just incriminated myself this really sucks no I'm just I I myself this really sucks no I'm just I I myself this really sucks no I'm just I I think I'm just being honest um but never think I'm just being honest um but never think I'm just being honest um but never yeah I know honesty never pays off yeah I know honesty never pays off yeah I know honesty never pays off that's true is that a special feature of that's true is that a special feature of that's true is that a special feature of your Vision Pro no but not yet we're your Vision Pro no but not yet we're your Vision Pro no but not yet we're just I'm waiting for just I'm waiting for just I'm waiting for that that that mean back the day you had to have game mean back the day you had to have game mean back the day you had to have game to get a girl you had to have game oh to get a girl you had to have game oh to get a girl you had to have game oh look at I mean you had to walk up to her look at I mean you had to walk up to her look at I mean you had to walk up to her yeah and have game yeah I mean it was yeah and have game yeah I mean it was yeah and have game yeah I mean it was about it was about your about it was about your about it was about your swag I mean it was all about that and swag I mean it was all about that and swag I mean it was all about that and today it's click click click got me a today it's click click click got me a today it's click click click got me a girl but see and and Bill like look I girl but see and and Bill like look I girl but see and and Bill like look I know you're I got me an experience is know you're I got me an experience is know you're I got me an experience is really not only that dude you have two really not only that dude you have two really not only that dude you have two girls at the same girls at the same girls at the same time dude you had to you had to shower time dude you had to you had to shower time dude you had to you had to shower change leave the house if you're not in change leave the house if you're not in change leave the house if you're not in the city get into your vehicle drive the city get into your vehicle drive the city get into your vehicle drive somewhere get to a barway whatever and somewhere get to a barway whatever and somewhere get to a barway whatever and then speak you know like actually

then speak you know like actually then speak you know like actually verbalize verbalize verbalize something you know that's how it used to something you know that's how it used to something you know that's how it used to be done back in the day just what the be done back in the day just what the be done back in the day just what the hell are we hell are we hell are we doing doing doing dehumanization ah yeah deolu it's a big dehumanization ah yeah deolu it's a big dehumanization ah yeah deolu it's a big issue I mean look at listen to Scott issue I mean look at listen to Scott issue I mean look at listen to Scott Galloway and all the stuff he talks Galloway and all the stuff he talks Galloway and all the stuff he talks about with young men and relationships about with young men and relationships about with young men and relationships and stuff like that and a lot of skills and stuff like that and a lot of skills and stuff like that and a lot of skills are being lost I mean the stuff that are being lost I mean the stuff that are being lost I mean the stuff that that David was talking about it's true that David was talking about it's true that David was talking about it's true the the human interaction skills are the the human interaction skills are the the human interaction skills are being lost on the Next Generation and being lost on the Next Generation and being lost on the Next Generation and you know I mean in college that's what you know I mean in college that's what you know I mean in college that's what that's what it was all about it was like that's what it was all about it was like that's what it was all about it was like oh look go I'm going to get her check me oh look go I'm going to get her check me oh look go I'm going to get her check me out bang and you just roll over there out bang and you just roll over there out bang and you just roll over there and I mean it was like end of the night and I mean it was like end of the night and I mean it was like end of the night how many numbers did you get I got how many numbers did you get I got how many numbers did you get I got 15 be careful you're gonna get me 15 be careful you're gonna get me 15 be careful you're gonna get me too look at all the numbers I got in my too look at all the numbers I got in my too look at all the numbers I got in my Casio calculator watch that's right but Casio calculator watch that's right but Casio calculator watch that's right but you know what I I mean oddly that's you know what I I mean oddly that's you know what I I mean oddly that's that's probably healthier than what's that's probably healthier than what's that's probably healthier than what's happening now I mean you know the worst happening now I mean you know the worst happening now I mean you know the worst thing that can happen is you know every thing that can happen is you know every thing that can happen is you know every male on the planet does that whole dead male on the planet does that whole dead male on the planet does that whole dead cat scene and then starts making out cat scene and then starts making out cat scene and then starts making out with their their digital assistant I with their their digital assistant I with their their digital assistant I mean come on I what's better and you mean come on I what's better and you mean come on I what's better and you know we have we have uh a population U know we have we have uh a population U know we have we have uh a population U population growth rate crisis right population growth rate crisis right population growth rate crisis right especially in South Korea especially in South Korea especially in South Korea you really started you you really heard

you really started you you really heard you really started you you really heard about this coming out of Europe you know about this coming out of Europe you know about this coming out of Europe you know in particular France I think but then it in particular France I think but then it in particular France I think but then it got really bad as it I don't know this got really bad as it I don't know this got really bad as it I don't know this trend started H hitting South Korea and trend started H hitting South Korea and trend started H hitting South Korea and their um birth rate is like Z part of their um birth rate is like Z part of their um birth rate is like Z part of the issue is when people start to lose the issue is when people start to lose the issue is when people start to lose those skills then they also start to those skills then they also start to those skills then they also start to lose empathy you know for other people lose empathy you know for other people lose empathy you know for other people in relationships and then it's like you in relationships and then it's like you in relationships and then it's like you know it's it kind of compound the the know it's it kind of compound the the know it's it kind of compound the the dehumanization because now it's like I dehumanization because now it's like I dehumanization because now it's like I don't even kind of understand these don't even kind of understand these don't even kind of understand these other people that are in my world right other people that are in my world right other people that are in my world right so that's the longer term issues I mean so that's the longer term issues I mean so that's the longer term issues I mean there's all this interpersonal things there's all this interpersonal things there's all this interpersonal things going on but you it's just that is the going on but you it's just that is the going on but you it's just that is the you know we all know what reading the you know we all know what reading the you know we all know what reading the room is like right you know like if we room is like right you know like if we room is like right you know like if we were all together and you get a reaction were all together and you get a reaction were all together and you get a reaction you like you you see it but when we're you like you you see it but when we're you like you you see it but when we're if you're if your experience of being if you're if your experience of being if you're if your experience of being together is just completely digital like together is just completely digital like together is just completely digital like that the it's it's you can't learn it that the it's it's you can't learn it that the it's it's you can't learn it you know cuz it's really hard for me to you know cuz it's really hard for me to you know cuz it's really hard for me to look at all of the tiles at the same look at all of the tiles at the same look at all of the tiles at the same time even though I look you know mostly time even though I look you know mostly time even though I look you know mostly at Mark cuz he's tall and handsome but at Mark cuz he's tall and handsome but at Mark cuz he's tall and handsome but you know you're you're not going to you know you're you're not going to you know you're you're not going to learn that how do you read the room it's learn that how do you read the room it's learn that how do you read the room it's t I'm not even sure Mark is tall I don't t I'm not even sure Mark is tall I don't t I'm not even sure Mark is tall I don't know how tall Mark is actually oh he's know how tall Mark is actually oh he's know how tall Mark is actually oh he's ridiculous 11 feet 14 inch at least at least describing him as inch at least at least describing him as tall is an understatement tall is an understatement tall is an understatement right you're gigantic that's why he's right you're gigantic that's why he's right you're gigantic that's why he's the giant I mean we are all his children

the giant I mean we are all his children the giant I mean we are all his children when we stand next to him exp explain when we stand next to him exp explain when we stand next to him exp explain that to the chat gbo that to the chat gbo that to the chat gbo right right right well we talked about right right right well we talked about right right right well we talked about you know these de the demographics and you know these de the demographics and you know these de the demographics and declining you know I don't know if you declining you know I don't know if you declining you know I don't know if you guys watch this guy on YouTube you know guys watch this guy on YouTube you know guys watch this guy on YouTube you know zahan that guy talks about oh yeah yeah zahan that guy talks about oh yeah yeah zahan that guy talks about oh yeah yeah I China China's got 10 years left Russia I China China's got 10 years left Russia I China China's got 10 years left Russia has got less than that you know he talks has got less than that you know he talks has got less than that you know he talks about all these countries based on about all these countries based on about all these countries based on demographics and birth rates and demographics and birth rates and demographics and birth rates and Agriculture and a whole bunch of Agriculture and a whole bunch of Agriculture and a whole bunch of different different different factors energy oil things like that and factors energy oil things like that and factors energy oil things like that and and yeah he talks about yeah China's and yeah he talks about yeah China's and yeah he talks about yeah China's gone in 10 years and people are like gone in 10 years and people are like gone in 10 years and people are like what do you mean they're gone it's just what do you mean they're gone it's just what do you mean they're gone it's just you know in a way you know and he says you know in a way you know and he says you know in a way you know and he says that about Russia in actually ethnic that about Russia in actually ethnic that about Russia in actually ethnic Russians it's almost they just Russians it's almost they just Russians it's almost they just like pretty interesting stuff for sure like pretty interesting stuff for sure like pretty interesting stuff for sure yeah just looking from demographers yeah just looking from demographers yeah just looking from demographers standpoint he's got some good stuff on standpoint he's got some good stuff on standpoint he's got some good stuff on YouTube yeah yeah maybe I'll check it YouTube yeah yeah maybe I'll check it YouTube yeah yeah maybe I'll check it out I mean yeah it's interesting I don't out I mean yeah it's interesting I don't out I mean yeah it's interesting I don't think I don't think think I don't think think I don't think any well maybe you know Japan's a good any well maybe you know Japan's a good any well maybe you know Japan's a good example you have a aging Japan has had a example you have a aging Japan has had a example you have a aging Japan has had a you know actually in Japan they sell you know actually in Japan they sell you know actually in Japan they sell more it's kind of a little weird they more it's kind of a little weird they more it's kind of a little weird they sell more adult diapers than baby sell more adult diapers than baby sell more adult diapers than baby diapers in Japan yeah so there you go diapers in Japan yeah so there you go diapers in Japan yeah so there you go Bill sorry man we were going to ask you Bill sorry man we were going to ask you Bill sorry man we were going to ask you um yeah we're going to tell you we um yeah we're going to tell you we um yeah we're going to tell you we missed you on the Fourth Man fourth missed you on the Fourth Man fourth missed you on the Fourth Man fourth anniv yeah I missed you guys too I've anniv yeah I missed you guys too I've anniv yeah I missed you guys too I've been running around man so I'm I'm I'm

been running around man so I'm I'm I'm been running around man so I'm I'm I'm here this week and then I'm traveling here this week and then I'm traveling here this week and then I'm traveling again next week to Chattanooga so you'll again next week to Chattanooga so you'll again next week to Chattanooga so you'll see you'll see that I was in Louisville see you'll see that I was in Louisville see you'll see that I was in Louisville last week so yeah that's what that's last week so yeah that's what that's last week so yeah that's what that's you're going to make that money aren't you're going to make that money aren't you're going to make that money aren't you hey man look nobody's gonna make it you hey man look nobody's gonna make it you hey man look nobody's gonna make it for me there you go yeah that's for me there you go yeah that's for me there you go yeah that's true all right take care man wow so so so last week well a couple man wow so so so last week well a couple of weeks ago I had a conversation with a of weeks ago I had a conversation with a of weeks ago I had a conversation with a with um a friend an old friend that I with um a friend an old friend that I with um a friend an old friend that I had a lot of time I didn't talk with him had a lot of time I didn't talk with him had a lot of time I didn't talk with him and he was talking about the food and and he was talking about the food and and he was talking about the food and Sovereign how how do you call Sovereign Sovereign how how do you call Sovereign Sovereign how how do you call Sovereign sovereignity of of food sovereignity of of food sovereignity of of food countries and uh and it's in it's countries and uh and it's in it's countries and uh and it's in it's interesting right how for example for us interesting right how for example for us interesting right how for example for us um I don't know avocados from Peru are um I don't know avocados from Peru are um I don't know avocados from Peru are cheaper than avocados that are um cultiv cheaper than avocados that are um cultiv cheaper than avocados that are um cultiv at like 100 or no or few hundred at like 100 or no or few hundred at like 100 or no or few hundred kilometers from Barcelona right how how kilometers from Barcelona right how how kilometers from Barcelona right how how does it make it doesn't make any sense does it make it doesn't make any sense does it make it doesn't make any sense at all or like how the society is trying at all or like how the society is trying at all or like how the society is trying to convince us that we have a to convince us that we have a to convince us that we have a Mediterranean diet that no like avocado Mediterranean diet that no like avocado Mediterranean diet that no like avocado is like better than a Mediterranean um is like better than a Mediterranean um is like better than a Mediterranean um diet for example no that when it's diet for example no that when it's diet for example no that when it's demonstrated that uh so we're talking demonstrated that uh so we're talking demonstrated that uh so we're talking about how we have to change the habits about how we have to change the habits about how we have to change the habits leaders of your or leaders of your or leaders of your or that oh what was that that was yes I'm sorry guys I was just I

was yes I'm sorry guys I was just I click on this stupid autoplay from click on this stupid autoplay from click on this stupid autoplay from YouTube kicked him been worse he's doing YouTube kicked him been worse he's doing YouTube kicked him been worse he's doing research while we're yapping research while we're yapping research while we're yapping away yeah Mark you bring up a great away yeah Mark you bring up a great away yeah Mark you bring up a great point though about that and you know I point though about that and you know I point though about that and you know I was I've read some stuff about olive oil was I've read some stuff about olive oil was I've read some stuff about olive oil and how expensive of it's getting and how expensive of it's getting and how expensive of it's getting because most of olive oil comes from because most of olive oil comes from because most of olive oil comes from espania and the temperatures harvests espania and the temperatures harvests espania and the temperatures harvests have been down things are burning up and have been down things are burning up and have been down things are burning up and and so there's not as much and what is and so there's not as much and what is and so there's not as much and what is espa is like what 40% of all olive espa is like what 40% of all olive espa is like what 40% of all olive production in the world um and it's just production in the world um and it's just production in the world um and it's just you know Rising temperatures having an you know Rising temperatures having an you know Rising temperatures having an impact and so um yeah isn't that kind of impact and so um yeah isn't that kind of impact and so um yeah isn't that kind of a good thing though I you guys know a good thing though I you guys know a good thing though I you guys know agriculture it's like you know if agriculture it's like you know if agriculture it's like you know if there's certain certain farmers and use there's certain certain farmers and use there's certain certain farmers and use certain Tech and certain climates are certain Tech and certain climates are certain Tech and certain climates are able to provide food at a high quality able to provide food at a high quality able to provide food at a high quality and a lower price I mean shouldn't that and a lower price I mean shouldn't that and a lower price I mean shouldn't that sort of you know migrate to the the the sort of you know migrate to the the the sort of you know migrate to the the the folks that need folks that need folks that need it well Adam Smith let's it well Adam Smith let's it well Adam Smith let's see no get it in a perfect world yeah a see no get it in a perfect world yeah a see no get it in a perfect world yeah a perfect supply chain and a perfect perfect supply chain and a perfect perfect supply chain and a perfect everything you were absolutely right everything you were absolutely right everything you were absolutely right yeah you always have the option to buy yeah you always have the option to buy yeah you always have the option to buy the local we have the you know Farm to the local we have the you know Farm to the local we have the you know Farm to Table local stuff here at met market and Table local stuff here at met market and Table local stuff here at met market and the avocados are like four bucks each or the avocados are like four bucks each or the avocados are like four bucks each or whatever or I can buy the ones from whatever or I can buy the ones from whatever or I can buy the ones from Mexico for like two bucks yeah right you Mexico for like two bucks yeah right you Mexico for like two bucks yeah right you know what you guys are bringing I mean know what you guys are bringing I mean know what you guys are bringing I mean Mark you brought up a really interesting Mark you brought up a really interesting Mark you brought up a really interesting topic here on food security and then you

topic here on food security and then you topic here on food security and then you know um it's weird I bump into a lot of know um it's weird I bump into a lot of know um it's weird I bump into a lot of people who've never heard of bricks people who've never heard of bricks people who've never heard of bricks which is Brazil Russia India China and which is Brazil Russia India China and which is Brazil Russia India China and South Africa and that that group you South Africa and that that group you South Africa and that that group you know it's sort of a know it's sort of a know it's sort of a contending International pseudo contending International pseudo contending International pseudo organization um that Spector yeah it's organization um that Spector yeah it's organization um that Spector yeah it's kind of like Hydra yeah kind of like Hydra yeah kind of like Hydra yeah hyra they're like yeah but I mean they hyra they're like yeah but I mean they hyra they're like yeah but I mean they all have I mean a lot of um political all have I mean a lot of um political all have I mean a lot of um political analysts in the west will pooo them analysts in the west will pooo them analysts in the west will pooo them saying they don't have any shared saying they don't have any shared saying they don't have any shared interest so they're like a bunch of they interest so they're like a bunch of they interest so they're like a bunch of they Basket Case well we'll see um you know Basket Case well we'll see um you know Basket Case well we'll see um you know um but the I think food security can um but the I think food security can um but the I think food security can become a really huge issue due to the GE become a really huge issue due to the GE become a really huge issue due to the GE politics cuz one of the key uh key politics cuz one of the key uh key politics cuz one of the key uh key countries in this bricks um Alliance countries in this bricks um Alliance countries in this bricks um Alliance Ukraine no Brazil because we have to Ukraine no Brazil because we have to Ukraine no Brazil because we have to remember you know like when I was remember you know like when I was remember you know like when I was working um doing consulting work for um working um doing consulting work for um working um doing consulting work for um uh JB uh JB uh JB Swift uh you got really quickly educated Swift uh you got really quickly educated Swift uh you got really quickly educated about how um how our food is about how um how our food is about how um how our food is sourced across the seasons right and we sourced across the seasons right and we sourced across the seasons right and we depend on the southern hemisphere for a depend on the southern hemisphere for a depend on the southern hemisphere for a lot of stuff during the winter you know lot of stuff during the winter you know lot of stuff during the winter you know whether it's livestock or fruit or whether it's livestock or fruit or whether it's livestock or fruit or vegetables or whatever um and so there's vegetables or whatever um and so there's vegetables or whatever um and so there's this huge dependency and I'm trying to this huge dependency and I'm trying to this huge dependency and I'm trying to think what southern hemisphere country

think what southern hemisphere country think what southern hemisphere country does the G7 have Alliance strong does the G7 have Alliance strong does the G7 have Alliance strong alliances with that could help them stem alliances with that could help them stem alliances with that could help them stem uh any risk to um uh any risk to um uh any risk to um food yeah I can't think crazy examp food yeah I can't think crazy examp food yeah I can't think crazy examp examp Africa is pretty much all China examp Africa is pretty much all China examp Africa is pretty much all China yeah yeah yeah right but there is a crazy example here right but there is a crazy example here right but there is a crazy example here it's for example um we cut uh the forest it's for example um we cut uh the forest it's for example um we cut uh the forest in Amazon in Amazon in Brazil to plant in Amazon in Amazon in Brazil to plant in Amazon in Amazon in Brazil to plant soya in Spain we buy this Brazilian soya soya in Spain we buy this Brazilian soya soya in Spain we buy this Brazilian soya to fit the porks the Iberian porks that to fit the porks the Iberian porks that to fit the porks the Iberian porks that we sell to China like why no starvation we sell to China like why no starvation we sell to China like why no starvation is a [ __ ] the answer the answer is very is a [ __ ] the answer the answer is very is a [ __ ] the answer the answer is very simple to why we to go back to the same simple to why we to go back to the same simple to why we to go back to the same discussion we had a few weeks ago the discussion we had a few weeks ago the discussion we had a few weeks ago the answer is profit there's profit to be answer is profit there's profit to be answer is profit there's profit to be made and the only con it is making made and the only con it is making made and the only con it is making profit right yeah people stop eating profit right yeah people stop eating profit right yeah people stop eating pork then they won't happen in China like how can you won't happen in China like how can you say that like like no man like beot Tri say that like like no man like beot Tri say that like like no man like beot Tri we're in different we're in different we're in different worlds worlds worlds okay I know uh you know Rob and I we okay I know uh you know Rob and I we okay I know uh you know Rob and I we live in the PMW we get some of the live in the PMW we get some of the live in the PMW we get some of the tastiest healthiest most awesome ohuk tastiest healthiest most awesome ohuk tastiest healthiest most awesome ohuk salmon you can get oh fantastic salmon you can get oh fantastic salmon you can get oh fantastic fantastic but it's nuts that for me to fantastic but it's nuts that for me to fantastic but it's nuts that for me to get that local tasty healthy Chino salel get that local tasty healthy Chino salel get that local tasty healthy Chino salel like I happen to know a couple of like I happen to know a couple of like I happen to know a couple of fishermen and I'm like hey man you know fishermen and I'm like hey man you know fishermen and I'm like hey man you know hook me up you know I'll buy it from you

hook me up you know I'll buy it from you hook me up you know I'll buy it from you because when I go to my grocery store because when I go to my grocery store because when I go to my grocery store this sells from New Zealand nothing this sells from New Zealand nothing this sells from New Zealand nothing against New Zealand for for the record against New Zealand for for the record against New Zealand for for the record but like why like I can drive to with but like why like I can drive to with but like why like I can drive to with you know to the Fisheries the you know to the Fisheries the you know to the Fisheries the because I think when it comes to food because I think when it comes to food because I think when it comes to food it's a whole education system I mean in it's a whole education system I mean in it's a whole education system I mean in modern countries we are actually modern countries we are actually modern countries we are actually bombarded by advertising on each striber bombarded by advertising on each striber bombarded by advertising on each striber it's this it's that we're not bombarded it's this it's that we're not bombarded it's this it's that we're not bombarded it buy local and here is what you need it buy local and here is what you need it buy local and here is what you need in your diet healthy and do your in your diet healthy and do your in your diet healthy and do your selection based on that we're not doing selection based on that we're not doing selection based on that we're not doing that I mean we have this family that I mean we have this family that I mean we have this family discussion all the time I say no for me discussion all the time I say no for me discussion all the time I say no for me strawberries it's in May June because strawberries it's in May June because strawberries it's in May June because this is the season where they are in this is the season where they are in this is the season where they are in Gross in France sure and I don't want to Gross in France sure and I don't want to Gross in France sure and I don't want to eat straberries in December I might buy eat straberries in December I might buy eat straberries in December I might buy one or two just you know but we're not one or two just you know but we're not one or two just you know but we're not educated for that the whole system educated for that the whole system educated for that the whole system forces us to buy the product that make forces us to buy the product that make forces us to buy the product that make the most profit so we back to the same the most profit so we back to the same the most profit so we back to the same thing so if you want a food security you thing so if you want a food security you thing so if you want a food security you have to change the thinking totally say have to change the thinking totally say have to change the thinking totally say what do we need depending on the season what do we need depending on the season what do we need depending on the season what do we have locally what do we what do we have locally what do we what do we have locally what do we absolutely need to import he man but do absolutely need to import he man but do absolutely need to import he man but do Leonard say this is a first world Leonard say this is a first world Leonard say this is a first world problem I mean where other other problem I mean where other other problem I mean where other other countries have true yeah strawberries in countries have true yeah strawberries in countries have true yeah strawberries in December definitely a first world December definitely a first world December definitely a first world problem problem problem yeah the day in the winter we just Ed E yeah the day in the winter we just Ed E yeah the day in the winter we just Ed E potatoes beats and no but I agreee with potatoes beats and no but I agreee with potatoes beats and no but I agreee with you but he is the here is the problem you but he is the here is the problem you but he is the here is the problem the problem is we have the same thing the problem is we have the same thing the problem is we have the same thing there was a discussion in France there was a discussion in France there was a discussion in France recently about this uh agreement with recently about this uh agreement with recently about this uh agreement with New Zealand because France is import New Zealand because France is import New Zealand because France is import sheep from New Zealand and you why the sheep from New Zealand and you why the sheep from New Zealand and you why the heck okay so this is in my point is that heck okay so this is in my point is that heck okay so this is in my point is that it is countries that those things happen

it is countries that those things happen it is countries that those things happen we import crazy things from very very we import crazy things from very very we import crazy things from very very far away because we can afford them and far away because we can afford them and far away because we can afford them and people can make a profit the people who people can make a profit the people who people can make a profit the people who live locally and have no resources they live locally and have no resources they live locally and have no resources they have no choice they eat what's there and have no choice they eat what's there and have no choice they eat what's there and maybe that diet is even better if maybe that diet is even better if maybe that diet is even better if they're not starving so it is a first they're not starving so it is a first they're not starving so it is a first world world world problem it is weird there is so much problem it is weird there is so much problem it is weird there is so much open Countryside in France that could open Countryside in France that could open Countryside in France that could have plenty of sheep there instead and have plenty of sheep there instead and have plenty of sheep there instead and you're right anyone who's been to New you're right anyone who's been to New you're right anyone who's been to New Zealand you know when you're flying in Zealand you know when you're flying in Zealand you know when you're flying in like in the Christ Church one of these like in the Christ Church one of these like in the Christ Church one of these other cities and you look down and it's other cities and you look down and it's other cities and you look down and it's like what are all these white dots all like what are all these white dots all like what are all these white dots all over the place cheep sheep sheep sheep over the place cheep sheep sheep sheep over the place cheep sheep sheep sheep there a lot of there a lot of there a lot of sheep Australia sheep Australia sheep Australia this is an interesting topic you know this is an interesting topic you know this is an interesting topic you know food food food security and where things are coming security and where things are coming security and where things are coming from in this perfect supply chain and from in this perfect supply chain and from in this perfect supply chain and then if that breaks down you know well then if that breaks down you know well then if that breaks down you know well and ideally you're using some like and ideally you're using some like and ideally you're using some like traceability of these Goods right we're traceability of these Goods right we're traceability of these Goods right we're seeing things like RFID and uh seeing things like RFID and uh seeing things like RFID and uh and and uh Blain I was gonna say when and and uh Blain I was gonna say when and and uh Blain I was gonna say when the hell are we going to talk about the hell are we going to talk about the hell are we going to talk about anything related to iot related I was anything related to iot related I was anything related to iot related I was gonna say that's kind my goal get here gonna say that's kind my goal get here gonna say that's kind my goal get here yeah we have to find yeah we have to find yeah we have to find problems for problems for problems for the uh but you know it's but how do you the uh but you know it's but how do you the uh but you know it's but how do you you know then we also have to address uh you know then we also have to address uh you know then we also have to address uh you know the education because if we you you know the education because if we you you know the education because if we you know pick a country and let's just go know pick a country and let's just go know pick a country and let's just go let's just go seven years let's go to let's just go seven years let's go to let's just go seven years let's go to our grandparents AG like they didn't our grandparents AG like they didn't our grandparents AG like they didn't have this heavy importation and have this heavy importation and have this heavy importation and everything was whatever is in season

everything was whatever is in season everything was whatever is in season that's what you're going to eat and and that's what you're going to eat and and that's what you're going to eat and and then we cuz another problem is the then we cuz another problem is the then we cuz another problem is the quality of the food that's quality of the food that's quality of the food that's available um and we can go into you know available um and we can go into you know available um and we can go into you know the whole GMO n GMO but you know like the whole GMO n GMO but you know like the whole GMO n GMO but you know like the um the the process food that we're the um the the process food that we're the um the the process food that we're you know that we're eating like it's you know that we're eating like it's you know that we're eating like it's it's not great and and it's this this it's not great and and it's this this it's not great and and it's this this circle of like you know for example I circle of like you know for example I circle of like you know for example I was actually telling my kids the other was actually telling my kids the other was actually telling my kids the other day that for the for the second you know day that for the for the second you know day that for the for the second you know when when United States enter the the when when United States enter the the when when United States enter the the second world war a really good idea was second world war a really good idea was second world war a really good idea was to make sure that the troops had food to make sure that the troops had food to make sure that the troops had food and the food was sourced from the US and the food was sourced from the US and the food was sourced from the US because you it's not going to be tainted because you it's not going to be tainted because you it's not going to be tainted they need the they need food supply so they need the they need food supply so they need the they need food supply so processed food makes a lot of can it be processed food makes a lot of can it be processed food makes a lot of can it be good go for it but then the war ends you good go for it but then the war ends you good go for it but then the war ends you know like there's no need right for the know like there's no need right for the know like there's no need right for the government to buy massive quantities of government to buy massive quantities of government to buy massive quantities of processed food because you know the processed food because you know the processed food because you know the soldiers are coming home but it kind of soldiers are coming home but it kind of soldiers are coming home but it kind of stuck well because the soldiers that stuck well because the soldiers that stuck well because the soldiers that came home they like the spam and they came home they like the spam and they came home they like the spam and they like the so they kept eating it I mean like the so they kept eating it I mean like the so they kept eating it I mean it's go back to the Industrial it's go back to the Industrial it's go back to the Industrial Revolution when we switched from an Revolution when we switched from an Revolution when we switched from an agrarian society to Industrial one agrarian society to Industrial one agrarian society to Industrial one people used to grow their own food and people used to grow their own food and people used to grow their own food and then around 1900 or so everyone's like then around 1900 or so everyone's like then around 1900 or so everyone's like oh I'm not growing food anymore I'm oh I'm not growing food anymore I'm oh I'm not growing food anymore I'm buying food and so if you look at back buying food and so if you look at back buying food and so if you look at back then it was pretty rough like people then it was pretty rough like people then it was pretty rough like people would add paint to milk and all kinds of would add paint to milk and all kinds of would add paint to milk and all kinds of weird stuff because it's like have to weird stuff because it's like have to weird stuff because it's like have to buy your people are buying food and it's buy your people are buying food and it's buy your people are buying food and it's like well nothing there's no like well nothing there's no like well nothing there's no preservatives whatever so it's come a

preservatives whatever so it's come a preservatives whatever so it's come a long way but we used to just grow food long way but we used to just grow food long way but we used to just grow food and eat it seasonally and now we buy and eat it seasonally and now we buy and eat it seasonally and now we buy food and it's more Universal and that's food and it's more Universal and that's food and it's more Universal and that's but finding the transparent of where but finding the transparent of where but finding the transparent of where it's from and all you're not having it's from and all you're not having it's from and all you're not having you're not having a canning party over you're not having a canning party over you're not having a canning party over at your house Pete right hey we're at your house Pete right hey we're at your house Pete right hey we're canning veggies today we're gonna take canning veggies today we're gonna take canning veggies today we're gonna take Friday Saturday Sunday and we're going Friday Saturday Sunday and we're going Friday Saturday Sunday and we're going to can all these things for the next we to can all these things for the next we to can all these things for the next we grew a lot of veggies here but you know grew a lot of veggies here but you know grew a lot of veggies here but you know it's maybe we should do that we should it's maybe we should do that we should it's maybe we should do that we should have a canning party David yeah let's do have a canning party David yeah let's do have a canning party David yeah let's do that you know David just so you know that you know David just so you know that you know David just so you know Pete is also in the Pete is also in the Pete is also in the pnw we should probably all get pnw we should probably all get pnw we should probably all get together wait how did I miss that I together wait how did I miss that I together wait how did I miss that I thought you were like I'm in bellw bellw thought you were like I'm in bellw bellw thought you were like I'm in bellw bellw Washington really how did Washington really how did Washington really how did Microsoft guy what am I think there you Microsoft guy what am I think there you Microsoft guy what am I think there you go have a little ston party have some go have a little ston party have some go have a little ston party have some party and do some cing party and do some cing party and do some cing maybe apologize for excluding from my maybe apologize for excluding from my maybe apologize for excluding from my pnw comment no disrespect Salon cany pnw comment no disrespect Salon cany pnw comment no disrespect Salon cany that's it you talking about the that's it you talking about the that's it you talking about the ingredients and stuff like that on the ingredients and stuff like that on the ingredients and stuff like that on the products in the future in the uh fallout products in the future in the uh fallout products in the future in the uh fallout future that we'll have people like on a future that we'll have people like on a future that we'll have people like on a gallon of milk they'll say you know how gallon of milk they'll say you know how gallon of milk they'll say you know how much radiation is in the milk how many much radiation is in the milk how many much radiation is in the milk how many right it'll come up on your Apple Vision right it'll come up on your Apple Vision right it'll come up on your Apple Vision Pro you know your Apple Vision Pro we we Pro you know your Apple Vision Pro we we Pro you know your Apple Vision Pro we we we we invented it here there's going to we we invented it here there's going to we we invented it here there's going to be thing called a food bomb yes hey but be thing called a food bomb yes hey but be thing called a food bomb yes hey but then back to iot which we're not doing a then back to iot which we're not doing a then back to iot which we're not doing a lot in this episode uh I'm going to lot in this episode uh I'm going to lot in this episode uh I'm going to stick to iot and and fish the um so the stick to iot and and fish the um so the stick to iot and and fish the um so the commercial by the way you know you are commercial by the way you know you are commercial by the way you know you are uh once you once they get the fish out uh once you once they get the fish out uh once you once they get the fish out of the ocean and onto the boats the way

of the ocean and onto the boats the way of the ocean and onto the boats the way these these these fish are going to be these these these fish are going to be these these these fish are going to be transported are mostly in plastic uh transported are mostly in plastic uh transported are mostly in plastic uh bins and pallets and and the um there's bins and pallets and and the um there's bins and pallets and and the um there's there are huge efforts for certain there are huge efforts for certain there are huge efforts for certain companies within the supply chain to companies within the supply chain to companies within the supply chain to provide uh pallet label uh pallet level provide uh pallet label uh pallet level provide uh pallet label uh pallet level uh traceability because from that point uh traceability because from that point uh traceability because from that point there's a lot of data that's easier to there's a lot of data that's easier to there's a lot of data that's easier to manage when you start at the source like manage when you start at the source like manage when you start at the source like I went into this ocean I I went into this ocean I I went into this ocean I caught fish at Distributing these and caught fish at Distributing these and caught fish at Distributing these and what date it was caught on and all that what date it was caught on and all that what date it was caught on and all that I'd love to know that the whole deal are I'd love to know that the whole deal are I'd love to know that the whole deal are you talking about blockchain no no you talking about blockchain no no you talking about blockchain no no no on an Excel spreadsheet okay sorry no on an Excel spreadsheet okay sorry no on an Excel spreadsheet okay sorry immutable Excel immutable Excel immutable Excel spreadsheet IM yeah this is let's copyright let's IM yeah this is let's copyright let's patn this let's do it but uh and and so patn this let's do it but uh and and so patn this let's do it but uh and and so anyway I got into this whole um life anyway I got into this whole um life anyway I got into this whole um life cycle of the pallets because once the uh cycle of the pallets because once the uh cycle of the pallets because once the uh the product is delivered the palletes be the product is delivered the palletes be the product is delivered the palletes be behave differently you know some of behave differently you know some of behave differently you know some of these pallets uh stay at the market in these pallets uh stay at the market in these pallets uh stay at the market in question until all that fish is you know question until all that fish is you know question until all that fish is you know is taken but somewhere they are is taken but somewhere they are is taken but somewhere they are delivered into say you know an delivered into say you know an delivered into say you know an industrial freezer these pallets have to industrial freezer these pallets have to industrial freezer these pallets have to go back and they have to be cleaned go back and they have to be cleaned go back and they have to be cleaned sanitized which is a different process sanitized which is a different process sanitized which is a different process and we get into all sorts of how do we and we get into all sorts of how do we and we get into all sorts of how do we track it when I am pressure washing the track it when I am pressure washing the track it when I am pressure washing the beesus out of this plastic where I might

beesus out of this plastic where I might beesus out of this plastic where I might be using chemicals to make sure that be using chemicals to make sure that be using chemicals to make sure that they are sanitized before they go back they are sanitized before they go back they are sanitized before they go back into the supply chain you have the into the supply chain you have the into the supply chain you have the embedded will sensor embedded in the embedded will sensor embedded in the embedded will sensor embedded in the plastic no but this is why ip69 exists plastic no but this is why ip69 exists plastic no but this is why ip69 exists right yeah yeah well there's also it's right yeah yeah well there's also it's right yeah yeah well there's also it's coming up where they're grabbing um an coming up where they're grabbing um an coming up where they're grabbing um an RFID inlay and they are literally baking RFID inlay and they are literally baking RFID inlay and they are literally baking the inlay the little antenna into the the inlay the little antenna into the the inlay the little antenna into the label or plastic itself yeah yeah bake label or plastic itself yeah yeah bake label or plastic itself yeah yeah bake it in we agree that RFID it's not it in we agree that RFID it's not it in we agree that RFID it's not dood it is it is ah come on rid State dood it is it is ah come on rid State dood it is it is ah come on rid State acquisition Mark it's state acquisition acquisition Mark it's state acquisition acquisition Mark it's state acquisition it tells me where it is what it is and it tells me where it is what it is and it tells me where it is what it is and yeah scanning is Wireless use an iot yeah scanning is Wireless use an iot yeah scanning is Wireless use an iot device use a laser right I'm an iot device use a laser right I'm an iot device use a laser right I'm an iot device through the air it's just with device through the air it's just with device through the air it's just with light right I love it I love it you are light right I love it I love it you are light right I love it I love it you are you are the most iot person on the you are the most iot person on the you are the most iot person on the planet so it makes sense yeah you are planet so it makes sense yeah you are planet so it makes sense yeah you are yeah nobody's a bigger deal on iot than yeah nobody's a bigger deal on iot than yeah nobody's a bigger deal on iot than you are Mark so that makes sense but you you are Mark so that makes sense but you you are Mark so that makes sense but you know what you brought out a blockchain know what you brought out a blockchain know what you brought out a blockchain you know I I mean I've always thought you know I I mean I've always thought you know I I mean I've always thought that blockchain had utility under uh and that blockchain had utility under uh and that blockchain had utility under uh and could be valuable in providing a trust could be valuable in providing a trust could be valuable in providing a trust infrastructure under a centralized infrastructure under a centralized infrastructure under a centralized Authority it doesn't have there's thing Authority it doesn't have there's thing Authority it doesn't have there's thing called cold chain they use cold chain to called cold chain they use cold chain to called cold chain they use cold chain to uh verify the temperature of an object uh verify the temperature of an object uh verify the temperature of an object through it Supply again yeah but then it

through it Supply again yeah but then it through it Supply again yeah but then it it just has that that function of it just has that that function of it just has that that function of providing a certain degree of well at providing a certain degree of well at providing a certain degree of well at least a a mutable data store the least a a mutable data store the least a a mutable data store the governance above it is just let's say at governance above it is just let's say at governance above it is just let's say at a it or systems level it it's not a it or systems level it it's not a it or systems level it it's not dictating the economy you're not going dictating the economy you're not going dictating the economy you're not going around selling you know a freaking you around selling you know a freaking you around selling you know a freaking you know crypto uh to sustain this thing and know crypto uh to sustain this thing and know crypto uh to sustain this thing and pay the bills um that's where I think pay the bills um that's where I think pay the bills um that's where I think every you know all these guys that tried every you know all these guys that tried every you know all these guys that tried to do a crypto model actually they to do a crypto model actually they to do a crypto model actually they thought they were doing blockchain but thought they were doing blockchain but thought they were doing blockchain but they're actually doing a crypto uh thing they're actually doing a crypto uh thing they're actually doing a crypto uh thing they just F flat on their faces and now they just F flat on their faces and now they just F flat on their faces and now nothing really hydrates any of these nothing really hydrates any of these nothing really hydrates any of these cryptos still uh you know you I went to cryptos still uh you know you I went to cryptos still uh you know you I went to RSA the biggest concern is the whole RSA the biggest concern is the whole RSA the biggest concern is the whole criminal economy is being funded and criminal economy is being funded and criminal economy is being funded and sustained by uh enabl by crypto not sustained by uh enabl by crypto not sustained by uh enabl by crypto not surprising yeah this surprising yeah this surprising yeah this only economic basis of it that you can only economic basis of it that you can only economic basis of it that you can actually um say hey actually um say hey actually um say hey look get back to iot and disagree with look get back to iot and disagree with look get back to iot and disagree with uh with my friend Aid no listen yeah let uh with my friend Aid no listen yeah let uh with my friend Aid no listen yeah let me give at this point in the podcast Mr me give at this point in the podcast Mr me give at this point in the podcast Mr Leonard Lee has used the word crypto six Leonard Lee has used the word crypto six Leonard Lee has used the word crypto six times and of Bitcoin right now is up times and of Bitcoin right now is up times and of Bitcoin right now is up 5.34% there you go it's in the 5.34% there you go it's in the 5.34% there you go it's in the transcript it's in the transcript no and transcript it's in the transcript no and transcript it's in the transcript no and and Microsoft will tell you the criminal and Microsoft will tell you the criminal and Microsoft will tell you the criminal economy or whatever cyber criminal economy or whatever cyber criminal economy or whatever cyber criminal economy is the fastest growing economy

economy is the fastest growing economy economy is the fastest growing economy on the planet and it is only it's just on the planet and it is only it's just on the planet and it is only it's just behind China so yeah that is the behind China so yeah that is the behind China so yeah that is the economic anchor it's behind China it's economic anchor it's behind China it's economic anchor it's behind China it's the second biggest criminal economy but this is why know we were economy but this is why know we were asking no at the iot stars if we are we asking no at the iot stars if we are we asking no at the iot stars if we are we are at the right side of of the of the are at the right side of of the of the are at the right side of of the of the wall or not you never know you never wall or not you never know you never wall or not you never know you never know so anyway did anybody watch Google know so anyway did anybody watch Google know so anyway did anybody watch Google iio yesterday yes iio yesterday yes iio yesterday yes I did it I just saw um a summary video I did it I just saw um a summary video I did it I just saw um a summary video that it was like three minutes where that it was like three minutes where that it was like three minutes where with all the cats where they were saying with all the cats where they were saying with all the cats where they were saying AI or generative Ai and it's three AI or generative Ai and it's three AI or generative Ai and it's three minutes an AI summary multiple people minutes an AI summary multiple people minutes an AI summary multiple people saying ai ai saying ai ai saying ai ai generative I like the DJ the DJ was the generative I like the DJ the DJ was the generative I like the DJ the DJ was the cool part for me at the beginning you cool part for me at the beginning you cool part for me at the beginning you know and he was making new instruments know and he was making new instruments know and he was making new instruments and it was composing music and right and and it was composing music and right and and it was composing music and right and he was really funny um that's the he was really funny um that's the he was really funny um that's the Highlight for me do you think music is Highlight for me do you think music is Highlight for me do you think music is going to change a lot thanks to going to change a lot thanks to going to change a lot thanks to there'll be a whole genre of AI there'll be a whole genre of AI there'll be a whole genre of AI generated music and it's not the it's generated music and it's not the it's generated music and it's not the it's it's going to be that's where the it's it's going to be that's where the it's it's going to be that's where the it's going to be an inexpensive way to pump going to be an inexpensive way to pump going to be an inexpensive way to pump out sort of medium Quality Music and out sort of medium Quality Music and out sort of medium Quality Music and there's there'll always be a market for there's there'll always be a market for there's there'll always be a market for that there has been since musac I mean that there has been since musac I mean that there has been since musac I mean so yeah actually no I I I I think um it so yeah actually no I I I I think um it so yeah actually no I I I I think um it could because now you can't tell what's could because now you can't tell what's could because now you can't tell what's fake or real but the problem is is the fake or real but the problem is is the fake or real but the problem is is the music industry still makes I mean a music industry still makes I mean a music industry still makes I mean a large portion of the the um revenues

large portion of the the um revenues large portion of the the um revenues come from concerts that's right live come from concerts that's right live come from concerts that's right live tour yeah live tour yeah live tour yeah live yeah is live yeah yeah this is this is yeah is live yeah yeah this is this is yeah is live yeah yeah this is this is the dream use case for the music the dream use case for the music the dream use case for the music industry you get music without having to industry you get music without having to industry you get music without having to pay the artist at all because there's no pay the artist at all because there's no pay the artist at all because there's no more artist it's all generat right this more artist it's all generat right this more artist it's all generat right this is all happening isn't it you just pay is all happening isn't it you just pay is all happening isn't it you just pay your Azure bill that's all you have to your Azure bill that's all you have to your Azure bill that's all you have to pay he's a good VC pitch yeah it's pay he's a good VC pitch yeah it's pay he's a good VC pitch yeah it's happening in music and art and happening in music and art and happening in music and art and so about VC so about VC so about VC imagine the tayor Swift money without imagine the tayor Swift money without imagine the tayor Swift money without Taylor swi to pay Taylor Swift but would Taylor swi to pay Taylor Swift but would Taylor swi to pay Taylor Swift but would there really be Taylor Swift songs there really be Taylor Swift songs there really be Taylor Swift songs without a Taylor Swift that's the issue without a Taylor Swift that's the issue without a Taylor Swift that's the issue no I I mean I think the big money is no I I mean I think the big money is no I I mean I think the big money is gonna be these um Scarlett gonna be these um Scarlett gonna be these um Scarlett Johansson Samantha agents yeah with ag Johansson Samantha agents yeah with ag Johansson Samantha agents yeah with ag with person with an adult star overlay with person with an adult star overlay with person with an adult star overlay on top of it that is going to kill on top of it that is going to kill on top of it that is going to kill it sorry I think it sorry I think it sorry I think don't go to the same site that LE does I don't go to the same site that LE does I don't go to the same site that LE does I am hey look you know what uh you know am hey look you know what uh you know am hey look you know what uh you know what what what I I was there in the beginning you know I I was there in the beginning you know I I was there in the beginning you know uh with um the search engines he was uh with um the search engines he was uh with um the search engines he was there at the adult very beginning saw there at the adult very beginning saw there at the adult very beginning saw what the top keywords were sure yeah what the top keywords were sure yeah what the top keywords were sure yeah look what the top key I'm sorry you know look what the top key I'm sorry you know look what the top key I'm sorry you know every I am not in denial the why did VHS every I am not in denial the why did VHS every I am not in denial the why did VHS take off you know yes I mean I said and trust me I I I wish Jesus Christ was

and trust me I I I wish Jesus Christ was number one on the uh top keywords list number one on the uh top keywords list number one on the uh top keywords list he was not even in the top thousand he was not even in the top thousand he was not even in the top thousand [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] okay the internet is not for the people okay the internet is not for the people okay the internet is not for the people that are looking no and and we're trying that are looking no and and we're trying that are looking no and and we're trying to go out and train these agis with it to go out and train these agis with it to go out and train these agis with it which just boggles my mind but you know which just boggles my mind but you know which just boggles my mind but you know but even more important than all this but even more important than all this but even more important than all this stuff yeah and I have to pimp a minute stuff yeah and I have to pimp a minute stuff yeah and I have to pimp a minute to go or less next Tuesday we're to go or less next Tuesday we're to go or less next Tuesday we're dropping something on the Internet it's dropping something on the Internet it's dropping something on the Internet it's our drop the origin story origin story our drop the origin story origin story our drop the origin story origin story Windows Phone WTF origin story episode Windows Phone WTF origin story episode Windows Phone WTF origin story episode one episode one dropping it's an one episode one dropping it's an one episode one dropping it's an exclusive LinkedIn uh stream exclusive LinkedIn uh stream exclusive LinkedIn uh stream 11 get YouTu exclusive next Tuesday part 11 get YouTu exclusive next Tuesday part 11 get YouTu exclusive next Tuesday part one of nine episode one which where you one of nine episode one which where you one of nine episode one which where you Anakin right why did you start at Anakin right why did you start at Anakin right why did you start at episodes five or six or seven and we episodes five or six or seven and we episodes five or six or seven and we should have started episode zero I guess should have started episode zero I guess should have started episode zero I guess I know I know what you're saying Demitri I know I know what you're saying Demitri I know I know what you're saying Demitri A New Hope and then we'll do A New Hope and then we'll do A New Hope and then we'll do prequels oh my God yeah there you go prequels oh my God yeah there you go prequels oh my God yeah there you go tune in that through the Clone Wars skip tune in that through the Clone Wars skip tune in that through the Clone Wars skip that one I'm not gonna can veggies this that one I'm not gonna can veggies this that one I'm not gonna can veggies this weekend just to see if I find a Motorola weekend just to see if I find a Motorola weekend just to see if I find a Motorola queue so I can have queue so I can have queue so I can have it you need to sit there with your que it you need to sit there with your que it you need to sit there with your que while you're watching your gear with you while you're watching your gear with you while you're watching your gear with you while you watch absolutely you got to while you watch absolutely you got to while you watch absolutely you got to have that stuff so this is a big deal I have that stuff so this is a big deal I have that stuff so this is a big deal I mean we put a lot of work into this it's mean we put a lot of work into this it's mean we put a lot of work into this it's a big crowd we got about 800 700 800

a big crowd we got about 800 700 800 a big crowd we got about 800 700 800 people in the group and then uh wow got people in the group and then uh wow got people in the group and then uh wow got about five or almost 10,000 hits in the about five or almost 10,000 hits in the about five or almost 10,000 hits in the past 24 hours on the post about yeah and past 24 hours on the post about yeah and past 24 hours on the post about yeah and they' been look we're having they' been look we're having they' been look we're having conversations with tech media people you conversations with tech media people you conversations with tech media people you know like all the big Tech websites who know like all the big Tech websites who know like all the big Tech websites who cover stuff like this that's happening cover stuff like this that's happening cover stuff like this that's happening so we might get picked up in the media so we might get picked up in the media so we might get picked up in the media and just waiting for our cease and and just waiting for our cease and and just waiting for our cease and desist from Microsoft off that's all desist from Microsoft off that's all desist from Microsoft off that's all yeah that's that's how we'll know that yeah that's that's how we'll know that yeah that's that's how we'll know that we've won we've won we've won [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] whoops uh too funny all right who wants whoops uh too funny all right who wants whoops uh too funny all right who wants to take us out by the before before that to take us out by the before before that to take us out by the before before that before that um when I joined you were before that um when I joined you were before that um when I joined you were talking about this the nuk button no uh talking about this the nuk button no uh talking about this the nuk button no uh I I didn't get the context but then you I I didn't get the context but then you I I didn't get the context but then you were talking about films did you watch were talking about films did you watch were talking about films did you watch the Creator film oh yes the Creator yeah the Creator film oh yes the Creator yeah the Creator film oh yes the Creator yeah good one oh yeah it's a mix of AI and good one oh yeah it's a mix of AI and good one oh yeah it's a mix of AI and new I recommend that one new I recommend that one new I recommend that one that was good see that so watch it was that was good see that so watch it was that was good see that so watch it was that the one with the giant ship yeah that the one with the giant ship yeah that the one with the giant ship yeah giant kind of the robot with I don't giant kind of the robot with I don't giant kind of the robot with I don't know if it was a nuke it seemed more know if it was a nuke it seemed more know if it was a nuke it seemed more like a massive you know lasers something like a massive you know lasers something like a massive you know lasers something lasers or something yeah yeah but but lasers or something yeah yeah but but lasers or something yeah yeah but but it's about the first nuke one yeah us it's about the first nuke one yeah us it's about the first nuke one yeah us people say it people say it people say it was AI right okay so Mark maybe you was AI right okay so Mark maybe you was AI right okay so Mark maybe you should take us out I think David was should take us out I think David was should take us out I think David was full oh yeah David we don't want to full oh yeah David we don't want to full oh yeah David we don't want to deprive him of his duty yeah that's this deprive him of his duty yeah that's this deprive him of his duty yeah that's this that's what I come here for folks it is

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