IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 140 - Brutal Reality of Rural Wireless

I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame might might start some litigation with might might start some litigation with might might start some litigation with us today yeah foundations bro us today yeah foundations bro us today yeah foundations bro literally it's collapsing we destabilize literally it's collapsing we destabilize literally it's collapsing we destabilize rock and roll just now rock and roll just now rock and roll just now actually we're doing a documentary on actually we're doing a documentary on actually we're doing a documentary on the last grunge band alive [Applause] [Applause] that's kind of sad that's kind of sad that's kind of sad yeah yeah yeah um so out of all the bad karaoke that um so out of all the bad karaoke that um so out of all the bad karaoke that we've done that's probably like one of we've done that's probably like one of we've done that's probably like one of the worst the worst the worst um that's okay that means that um that's okay that means that um that's okay that means that everything is it's just going to be much everything is it's just going to be much everything is it's just going to be much better than how we're starting up from better than how we're starting up from better than how we're starting up from all up from here yeah I'll get better all up from here yeah I'll get better all up from here yeah I'll get better things could only get better as Howard things could only get better as Howard things could only get better as Howard Jones would say Jones would say Jones would say yes and that is a fantastic song and yes and that is a fantastic song and yes and that is a fantastic song and another couple of amazing UK British you another couple of amazing UK British you another couple of amazing UK British you know Tom white contribution to uh pop know Tom white contribution to uh pop know Tom white contribution to uh pop pop the problem the problem is because pop the problem the problem is because pop the problem the problem is because you're not surrounded by keyboards and you're not surrounded by keyboards and you're not surrounded by keyboards and synthesizers you know you know you've synthesizers you know you know you've synthesizers you know you know you've got the guitar but you don't have the got the guitar but you don't have the got the guitar but you don't have the actual 80s thing you know right here right here all right all right all right so all right now we're gonna do 80s 80s so all right now we're gonna do 80s 80s so all right now we're gonna do 80s 80s um what do they call it new waves um what do they call it new waves um what do they call it new waves oh my God you saw like some old person oh my God you saw like some old person oh my God you saw like some old person who just watched a documentary or who just watched a documentary or who just watched a documentary or something what do they call that oh it's something what do they call that oh it's something what do they call that oh it's new ways yeah new ways yeah new ways yeah yeah like is that like Joy Division or

yeah like is that like Joy Division or yeah like is that like Joy Division or something what is that something what is that something what is that is that Frankie Goes to Hollywood oh is that Frankie Goes to Hollywood oh is that Frankie Goes to Hollywood oh well you know you crazy kids in the 80s well you know you crazy kids in the 80s well you know you crazy kids in the 80s here's the thing we got to get more here's the thing we got to get more here's the thing we got to get more young people on the show because our young people on the show because our young people on the show because our asses are like really old I mean asses are like really old I mean asses are like really old I mean remember you will remember this remember remember you will remember this remember remember you will remember this remember the mods and the punks the mods and the punks the mods and the punks the mods and the Rockers the Rockers the mods and the Rockers the Rockers the mods and the Rockers the Rockers well we had the pumps so punk rock was well we had the pumps so punk rock was well we had the pumps so punk rock was really big back then and so did he really big back then and so did he really big back then and so did he watched the movie Quadrophenia uh-uh no watched the movie Quadrophenia uh-uh no watched the movie Quadrophenia uh-uh no I haven't I haven't I haven't what kind of what kind of music person what kind of what kind of music person what kind of what kind of music person are you are you are you yeah okay I'm not even gonna touch that one okay I'm not even gonna touch that one but yes quadrophedia great rock opera by but yes quadrophedia great rock opera by but yes quadrophedia great rock opera by The Who made a movie and it showed the The Who made a movie and it showed the The Who made a movie and it showed the mods and the Rockers those guys were the mods and the Rockers those guys were the mods and the Rockers those guys were the mod they were writing little scooters mod they were writing little scooters mod they were writing little scooters with flags on the back yeah right yeah with flags on the back yeah right yeah with flags on the back yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it may yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it may yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it may have been the first time you saw sting have been the first time you saw sting have been the first time you saw sting starring in a movie as an actor was in starring in a movie as an actor was in starring in a movie as an actor was in Quadrophenia actually really yeah yeah Quadrophenia actually really yeah yeah Quadrophenia actually really yeah yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely sounds very obscure sounds very obscure sounds very obscure it almost sounds like it's sponsored by it almost sounds like it's sponsored by it almost sounds like it's sponsored by Aquafina and there was lots of product Aquafina and there was lots of product Aquafina and there was lots of product placement in that movie you're such a smart-ass dude anyway yeah you're such a smart-ass dude anyway yeah oh yeah what's big in the iot other than oh yeah what's big in the iot other than oh yeah what's big in the iot other than other than Rob Tiffany getting

other than Rob Tiffany getting other than Rob Tiffany getting squashed into the parking lot and having squashed into the parking lot and having squashed into the parking lot and having to go through the back of his car in to go through the back of his car in to go through the back of his car in order to order to order to to yeah to his car get to the driver's to yeah to his car get to the driver's to yeah to his car get to the driver's seat what was that all about I'll I'll seat what was that all about I'll I'll seat what was that all about I'll I'll start I'll get let me derail this really start I'll get let me derail this really start I'll get let me derail this really quick because in the words in the words quick because in the words in the words quick because in the words in the words of a Family Guy of a Family Guy of a Family Guy um you know that uh Mr Griffin this is um you know that uh Mr Griffin this is um you know that uh Mr Griffin this is is grinding my gears is grinding my gears is grinding my gears I'm talking to so you know now in uh in I'm talking to so you know now in uh in I'm talking to so you know now in uh in Sacramento for the last couple of days Sacramento for the last couple of days Sacramento for the last couple of days there is a wine and grape Symposium so there is a wine and grape Symposium so there is a wine and grape Symposium so you have a lot of uh you know folks in you have a lot of uh you know folks in you have a lot of uh you know folks in the in the wine industry that's the name the in the wine industry that's the name the in the wine industry that's the name uh suggests uh suggests uh suggests and I was talking to a few folks there and I was talking to a few folks there and I was talking to a few folks there because when every time I keep hearing because when every time I keep hearing because when every time I keep hearing about about about um any sort of a autonomous operation um any sort of a autonomous operation um any sort of a autonomous operation via vehicle tractor conveyor belt uh via vehicle tractor conveyor belt uh via vehicle tractor conveyor belt uh comeback whatever for you know the farm comeback whatever for you know the farm comeback whatever for you know the farm you know and no one I I don't hear you know and no one I I don't hear you know and no one I I don't hear enough people talking about this thing enough people talking about this thing enough people talking about this thing being deployed not a farm in the middle being deployed not a farm in the middle being deployed not a farm in the middle of nowhere it's like we talk about yeah of nowhere it's like we talk about yeah of nowhere it's like we talk about yeah there's these vehicles and they do this there's these vehicles and they do this there's these vehicles and they do this and Automation and benefits and all and Automation and benefits and all and Automation and benefits and all these things and all like everything these things and all like everything these things and all like everything that you could do and then a little bit that you could do and then a little bit that you could do and then a little bit of like well and you sprinkle you know of like well and you sprinkle you know of like well and you sprinkle you know private Wireless you know CBR SLT like private Wireless you know CBR SLT like private Wireless you know CBR SLT like all these things and at the part where all these things and at the part where all these things and at the part where someone has to talk about the backhaul someone has to talk about the backhaul someone has to talk about the backhaul for that private Wireless in that farm for that private Wireless in that farm for that private Wireless in that farm that's 172 miles from the next person

that's 172 miles from the next person that's 172 miles from the next person living living living no one says no one says a word no one says no one says a word no one says no one says a word and I've been and I was you know I I and I've been and I was you know I I and I've been and I was you know I I reached out to uh reached out to uh reached out to uh you know to Vico hey you know you know you know to Vico hey you know you know you know to Vico hey you know you know have you you know have you heard have you you know have you heard have you you know have you heard anything differently and uh so I wanted anything differently and uh so I wanted anything differently and uh so I wanted to you know start there because we know to you know start there because we know to you know start there because we know that wireless is not wireless we've that wireless is not wireless we've that wireless is not wireless we've talked here in iot Coffee Talk many many talked here in iot Coffee Talk many many talked here in iot Coffee Talk many many times about the the the digital divide times about the the the digital divide times about the the the digital divide of you know lack of any sort of access of you know lack of any sort of access of you know lack of any sort of access you know in farms and Rural communities you know in farms and Rural communities you know in farms and Rural communities and and I wanted to you know maybe and and I wanted to you know maybe and and I wanted to you know maybe someone would listen to this and come in someone would listen to this and come in someone would listen to this and come in and you know and tell us what it is that and you know and tell us what it is that and you know and tell us what it is that we're missing or what is that you know we're missing or what is that you know we're missing or what is that you know the magical dust because I couldn't find the magical dust because I couldn't find the magical dust because I couldn't find a single OEM of private Wireless that a single OEM of private Wireless that a single OEM of private Wireless that has anything on a farm just not one not has anything on a farm just not one not has anything on a farm just not one not one and I went from all around guys to one and I went from all around guys to one and I went from all around guys to the kid makers to the louder guys to the the kid makers to the louder guys to the the kid makers to the louder guys to the installers like nothing you know what I installers like nothing you know what I installers like nothing you know what I find go to a point to point right find go to a point to point right find go to a point to point right because I can I can do a shot from that because I can I can do a shot from that because I can I can do a shot from that you know that hill over there you know that hill over there you know that hill over there um but anyway nothing that would tell me but anyway nothing that would tell me how an autonomous vehicle how an autonomous vehicle how an autonomous vehicle if it needs connectivity is going to if it needs connectivity is going to if it needs connectivity is going to work in a farm and yes obviously these work in a farm and yes obviously these work in a farm and yes obviously these these vehicles will have Telemetry and these vehicles will have Telemetry and these vehicles will have Telemetry and they're smart and they can do many they're smart and they can do many they're smart and they can do many things you know in a defined Geographic

things you know in a defined Geographic things you know in a defined Geographic space But at the end of the day if that space But at the end of the day if that space But at the end of the day if that data is going to be analyzed it has to data is going to be analyzed it has to data is going to be analyzed it has to get out of the farm somehow somewhere so get out of the farm somehow somewhere so get out of the farm somehow somewhere so right you need yeah people yeah we need right you need yeah people yeah we need right you need yeah people yeah we need to write Wireless technology right with to write Wireless technology right with to write Wireless technology right with capacity and latency capacity and latency capacity and latency by that with like proper latency by that with like proper latency by that with like proper latency so let's chat about that because so so let's chat about that because so so let's chat about that because so again we grab again we grab again we grab um so we will have the limits of physics um so we will have the limits of physics um so we will have the limits of physics right you know so if we go cbrs it's 150 right you know so if we go cbrs it's 150 right you know so if we go cbrs it's 150 megahertz but we probably only get half megahertz but we probably only get half megahertz but we probably only get half because someone already bought the rest because someone already bought the rest because someone already bought the rest but you know you can do a big chunk of but you know you can do a big chunk of but you know you can do a big chunk of things with with 60 70 megahertz because things with with 60 70 megahertz because things with with 60 70 megahertz because remember we're talking about Farms remember we're talking about Farms remember we're talking about Farms there's very little competition here and there's very little competition here and there's very little competition here and and no one is doing I I don't know a and no one is doing I I don't know a and no one is doing I I don't know a hundred tractors in in a little piece of hundred tractors in in a little piece of hundred tractors in in a little piece of land it might be a handful of vehicles land it might be a handful of vehicles land it might be a handful of vehicles uh so I think the from a spec from a uh so I think the from a spec from a uh so I think the from a spec from a capacity bandwidth latency if the capacity bandwidth latency if the capacity bandwidth latency if the network existed I think it could deliver network existed I think it could deliver network existed I think it could deliver autonomous operation but how the hell do autonomous operation but how the hell do autonomous operation but how the hell do we get back home out there like that we get back home out there like that we get back home out there like that that's that that's what I keep coming that's that that's what I keep coming that's that that's what I keep coming back to it it's like that company back to it it's like that company back to it it's like that company um out of uh Eisen Provence in France uh um out of uh Eisen Provence in France uh um out of uh Eisen Provence in France uh it's a university project they they're it's a university project they they're it's a university project they they're startup they create they create a little startup they create they create a little startup they create they create a little robot that goes and Scopes out pipes for

robot that goes and Scopes out pipes for robot that goes and Scopes out pipes for cracks right and it's fully autonomous cracks right and it's fully autonomous cracks right and it's fully autonomous and the only time that it connects ever and the only time that it connects ever and the only time that it connects ever is when it comes back from a mission and is when it comes back from a mission and is when it comes back from a mission and you pull the Telemetry data and the in you pull the Telemetry data and the in you pull the Telemetry data and the in any data off of it using Wi-Fi any data off of it using Wi-Fi any data off of it using Wi-Fi uh but you know what I'm saying it you uh but you know what I'm saying it you uh but you know what I'm saying it you don't need I mean here's here's the don't need I mean here's here's the don't need I mean here's here's the Dilemma for the wireless world when it Dilemma for the wireless world when it Dilemma for the wireless world when it comes to Solutions you just pulled the comes to Solutions you just pulled the comes to Solutions you just pulled the data off of it when it yeah like that data off of it when it yeah like that data off of it when it yeah like that yeah but the Dilemma is that that you yeah but the Dilemma is that that you yeah but the Dilemma is that that you know we can have very autonomous know we can have very autonomous know we can have very autonomous intelligent systems that are intelligent systems that are intelligent systems that are self-propelling self-operating uh for self-propelling self-operating uh for self-propelling self-operating uh for simple functions right like going simple functions right like going simple functions right like going through a pipe is not all that big of a through a pipe is not all that big of a through a pipe is not all that big of a deal and you know quite frankly you we deal and you know quite frankly you we deal and you know quite frankly you we make a big deal out of autonomous make a big deal out of autonomous make a big deal out of autonomous tractors but I mean you're not going tractors but I mean you're not going tractors but I mean you're not going down like a street in Mumbai down like a street in Mumbai down like a street in Mumbai where there's a high risk of killing where there's a high risk of killing where there's a high risk of killing somebody uh every two feet right uh it's somebody uh every two feet right uh it's somebody uh every two feet right uh it's not like that uh so you know I think we not like that uh so you know I think we not like that uh so you know I think we we have to we have to be we have to we have to be we have to we have to be um mindful that of what autonomous means um mindful that of what autonomous means um mindful that of what autonomous means and what autonomous uh you know how they and what autonomous uh you know how they and what autonomous uh you know how they will be architected and what the role will be architected and what the role will be architected and what the role Wireless will play and it may be zero Wireless will play and it may be zero Wireless will play and it may be zero that's the sad part that's the sad part that's the sad part well it cannot be so two two things so well it cannot be so two two things so well it cannot be so two two things so yeah there are no you know there's no uh

yeah there are no you know there's no uh yeah there are no you know there's no uh there's less of a safety element if I there's less of a safety element if I there's less of a safety element if I have you know an autonomous rig in a have you know an autonomous rig in a have you know an autonomous rig in a farm doing whatever it is you know farm doing whatever it is you know farm doing whatever it is you know fertilizing picking things up planting fertilizing picking things up planting fertilizing picking things up planting but you still need this thing to in but you still need this thing to in but you still need this thing to in order for the order for the order for the no one's buying tech for the sake of no one's buying tech for the sake of no one's buying tech for the sake of buying Tech and at the end of the day if buying Tech and at the end of the day if buying Tech and at the end of the day if this vehicle this tractor is not this vehicle this tractor is not this vehicle this tractor is not autonomously performing the labor that autonomously performing the labor that autonomously performing the labor that has this place that human and put them has this place that human and put them has this place that human and put them in you know in another job being more in you know in another job being more in you know in another job being more productive then it doesn't it's not productive then it doesn't it's not productive then it doesn't it's not going to work going to work going to work sorry I thought it was the earthquake of sorry I thought it was the earthquake of sorry I thought it was the earthquake of the week the week the week but I think that the dryer just went off but I think that the dryer just went off but I think that the dryer just went off the Democracy it's an old drive yeah the Democracy it's an old drive yeah the Democracy it's an old drive yeah yeah there you go yeah yeah there you go yeah yeah there you go yeah I don't want to go take a look at it I don't want to go take a look at it I don't want to go take a look at it guys it should not be rattling this much guys it should not be rattling this much guys it should not be rattling this much I will be right back hopefully okay all I will be right back hopefully okay all I will be right back hopefully okay all right right right so but I guess you need the pre you know so but I guess you need the pre you know so but I guess you need the pre you know the ROI of precision agriculture that's the ROI of precision agriculture that's the ROI of precision agriculture that's what we're talking about here what was what we're talking about here what was what we're talking about here what was what was his we we talked around a lot what was his we we talked around a lot what was his we we talked around a lot of stuff there what was his actual of stuff there what was his actual of stuff there what was his actual question though it's like how do you get question though it's like how do you get question though it's like how do you get back all out to these uh these fields so back all out to these uh these fields so back all out to these uh these fields so that you have autonomous Solutions so he that you have autonomous Solutions so he that you have autonomous Solutions so he he says yeah we put cbrs up he says yeah we put cbrs up he says yeah we put cbrs up having like having like a reliable having like having like a reliable having like having like a reliable connectivity connectivity connectivity um um um all around you know for wherever it is all around you know for wherever it is all around you know for wherever it is and I would say though like out where I and I would say though like out where I and I would say though like out where I live the whispers are doing really well live the whispers are doing really well live the whispers are doing really well yeah and if if there is a use case where

yeah and if if there is a use case where yeah and if if there is a use case where they're going to make money they will they're going to make money they will they're going to make money they will put up an antenna and set everything up put up an antenna and set everything up put up an antenna and set everything up and you could have complete activity now and you could have complete activity now and you could have complete activity now I'm not familiar with them in terms of I'm not familiar with them in terms of I'm not familiar with them in terms of anything that's live and out there on anything that's live and out there on anything that's live and out there on the farm and they're you know they're the farm and they're you know they're the farm and they're you know they're set up and deployed for back hall set up and deployed for back hall set up and deployed for back hall because right now it's really more about because right now it's really more about because right now it's really more about rural rural rural um personal you know Broadband um personal you know Broadband um personal you know Broadband um it's wireless um it's wireless um it's wireless yeah but I have some books yeah I might yeah but I have some books yeah I might yeah but I have some books yeah I might want to you know I might actually reach want to you know I might actually reach want to you know I might actually reach out to them on David's behalf to see if out to them on David's behalf to see if out to them on David's behalf to see if they're seeing anything because you know they're seeing anything because you know they're seeing anything because you know Texas is a great use case because Texas is a great use case because Texas is a great use case because there's a lot of stuff happening on there's a lot of stuff happening on there's a lot of stuff happening on I was thinking with the whole time too I was thinking with the whole time too I was thinking with the whole time too can we have the iot coffee talk with can we have the iot coffee talk with can we have the iot coffee talk with Corporation we we got your we've got your back haul we we got your we've got your back haul we've got two Dixie Cups oh my God out we've got two Dixie Cups oh my God out we've got two Dixie Cups oh my God out of that David though David when you went of that David though David when you went of that David though David when you went away we were trying to remember what away we were trying to remember what away we were trying to remember what exactly was here I don't know your exactly was here I don't know your exactly was here I don't know your question was the no can you guys hear me question was the no can you guys hear me question was the no can you guys hear me yeah yeah we can okay I just noticed yeah yeah we can okay I just noticed yeah yeah we can okay I just noticed that a couple of people talking over me that a couple of people talking over me that a couple of people talking over me so and my my um was giving me errors so and my my um was giving me errors so and my my um was giving me errors called It's called The interwebs oh is called It's called The interwebs oh is called It's called The interwebs oh is that okay that okay that okay that's why I thought you can't hear that's why I thought you can't hear that's why I thought you can't hear anything I'm saying anything I'm saying anything I'm saying um so David my point earlier with uh you um so David my point earlier with uh you um so David my point earlier with uh you know you talk about alcohol right you know you talk about alcohol right you know you talk about alcohol right you got to have wireless back call there got to have wireless back call there got to have wireless back call there and this you know the Technologies we're

and this you know the Technologies we're and this you know the Technologies we're talking about for reaching people those talking about for reaching people those talking about for reaching people those are the Technologies we're talking about are the Technologies we're talking about are the Technologies we're talking about for back call as well and you're also for back call as well and you're also for back call as well and you're also talking complex Precision agriculture so talking complex Precision agriculture so talking complex Precision agriculture so what is the ROI for precision what is the ROI for precision what is the ROI for precision agriculture that's what I would be agriculture that's what I would be agriculture that's what I would be looking at looking at looking at um to see what can be done um to see what can be done um to see what can be done yes so let's let's do uh back of the yes so let's let's do uh back of the yes so let's let's do uh back of the paper napkin thing so first again now paper napkin thing so first again now paper napkin thing so first again now Rob robs Rob's the farmer and you know Rob robs Rob's the farmer and you know Rob robs Rob's the farmer and you know whatever it's he's planting he's weeding whatever it's he's planting he's weeding whatever it's he's planting he's weeding and you know his back is hurting because and you know his back is hurting because and you know his back is hurting because he had to you know insert himself in a he had to you know insert himself in a he had to you know insert himself in a vehicle through all sorts of wrong ways vehicle through all sorts of wrong ways vehicle through all sorts of wrong ways so now he cannot work he needs the so now he cannot work he needs the so now he cannot work he needs the autonomous tractor to do his job autonomous tractor to do his job autonomous tractor to do his job um I don't have a hat but my kids left um I don't have a hat but my kids left um I don't have a hat but my kids left this here so let's just go away the so we have the cost of the vehicle so we have the cost of the vehicle that's going to or let's call it the that's going to or let's call it the that's going to or let's call it the robot that's replacing Rock and there's robot that's replacing Rock and there's robot that's replacing Rock and there's going to be an rri you know going to going to be an rri you know going to going to be an rri you know going to invest this much and if I get this invest this much and if I get this invest this much and if I get this output you know my Roi is in x uh no output you know my Roi is in x uh no output you know my Roi is in x uh no one's going to sell you an autonomous one's going to sell you an autonomous one's going to sell you an autonomous tractor with some sort of without some tractor with some sort of without some tractor with some sort of without some sort of a service contract for the sort of a service contract for the sort of a service contract for the maintenance for the data that you know maintenance for the data that you know maintenance for the data that you know because you're getting all this value so because you're getting all this value so because you're getting all this value so there's that uh we're assuming that there's that uh we're assuming that there's that uh we're assuming that we're going to have to build a private we're going to have to build a private we're going to have to build a private Network because there's no other way to Network because there's no other way to Network because there's no other way to connect and this is where things get connect and this is where things get connect and this is where things get hairy Rob's a farmer you have the hairy Rob's a farmer you have the hairy Rob's a farmer you have the autonomous vehicle people and they are autonomous vehicle people and they are autonomous vehicle people and they are product people and they know a little product people and they know a little product people and they know a little bit about AG but no one knows about

bit about AG but no one knows about bit about AG but no one knows about networking so let's go get someone else networking so let's go get someone else networking so let's go get someone else and we read through the interwebs that and we read through the interwebs that and we read through the interwebs that you know there's all these oems and all you know there's all these oems and all you know there's all these oems and all these sis okay I got the SI it's almost these sis okay I got the SI it's almost these sis okay I got the SI it's almost going to build it someone's going to going to build it someone's going to going to build it someone's going to maintain it and so when we get into the maintain it and so when we get into the maintain it and so when we get into the whole Roi thing it's a big leap from whole Roi thing it's a big leap from whole Roi thing it's a big leap from saying I farmer by this autonomous thing saying I farmer by this autonomous thing saying I farmer by this autonomous thing and I'm off to the races versus my farm and I'm off to the races versus my farm and I'm off to the races versus my farm is in the middle of nowhere I have to is in the middle of nowhere I have to is in the middle of nowhere I have to build infrastructure who's going to help build infrastructure who's going to help build infrastructure who's going to help me and how do I now calculate whether me and how do I now calculate whether me and how do I now calculate whether there is an hour in the first place or there is an hour in the first place or there is an hour in the first place or this is just stupid and and that's the this is just stupid and and that's the this is just stupid and and that's the point where not enough people are saying point where not enough people are saying point where not enough people are saying it like someone should say look Farmer it like someone should say look Farmer it like someone should say look Farmer John you're screwed this is not coming John you're screwed this is not coming John you're screwed this is not coming for you this is not going to work it's for you this is not going to work it's for you this is not going to work it's going to be satellite based and you'll going to be satellite based and you'll going to be satellite based and you'll get what it gets but all this AI laser get what it gets but all this AI laser get what it gets but all this AI laser sapping sharks shooting lasers sapping sharks shooting lasers sapping sharks shooting lasers it's not going to work uh and that's it it's not going to work uh and that's it it's not going to work uh and that's it like we should just say it sorry I had a like we should just say it sorry I had a like we should just say it sorry I had a little bit too much coffee this morning little bit too much coffee this morning little bit too much coffee this morning no thank you for all that information no thank you for all that information no thank you for all that information and I you know these are things we all and I you know these are things we all and I you know these are things we all deal with and you're right there's that deal with and you're right there's that deal with and you're right there's that expensive point to point for every expensive point to point for every expensive point to point for every little thing is one way to go or you little thing is one way to go or you little thing is one way to go or you create an envelope a network in that create an envelope a network in that create an envelope a network in that area but then that whole network needs area but then that whole network needs area but then that whole network needs to connect to that to the real world to connect to that to the real world to connect to that to the real world I like the idea of the iot coffee talk I like the idea of the iot coffee talk I like the idea of the iot coffee talk with backhaul Corporation with backhaul Corporation with backhaul Corporation um because all you have to do is go on um because all you have to do is go on um because all you have to do is go on Amazon and buy all this ubiquity here

Amazon and buy all this ubiquity here Amazon and buy all this ubiquity here and because you know surely within eight and because you know surely within eight and because you know surely within eight miles or so 10 miles there's got to be miles or so 10 miles there's got to be miles or so 10 miles there's got to be real connectivity somewhere and so we we real connectivity somewhere and so we we real connectivity somewhere and so we we backlaw we do with which is cheap and backlaw we do with which is cheap and backlaw we do with which is cheap and beam it into the middle beam it into the middle beam it into the middle and then there's this giant thing and and then there's this giant thing and and then there's this giant thing and it's just kind of like um kind of like it's just kind of like um kind of like it's just kind of like um kind of like in uh Independence Day you know when it in uh Independence Day you know when it in uh Independence Day you know when it shoots the laser beam down on top of the shoots the laser beam down on top of the shoots the laser beam down on top of the First Interstate Bank in La they're like First Interstate Bank in La they're like First Interstate Bank in La they're like so we do that the width beams that down so we do that the width beams that down so we do that the width beams that down and then blasts it out over the farm and then blasts it out over the farm and then blasts it out over the farm boom IP networking for the win boom IP networking for the win boom IP networking for the win there we go there we go there we go hey David I'll um suggest you another hey David I'll um suggest you another hey David I'll um suggest you another contact person who you know used to work contact person who you know used to work contact person who you know used to work with us in high tech and is now a farmer with us in high tech and is now a farmer with us in high tech and is now a farmer in Washington State in Washington State in Washington State [Music] [Music] [Music] we'll go see we'll go see this contact we'll go see we'll go see this contact we'll go see we'll go see this contact yeah the answers are on YouTube David obviously I'm actually I'm actually not obviously I'm actually I'm actually not joking we can start our own auto repair joking we can start our own auto repair joking we can start our own auto repair shop with YouTube if we had to yeah shop with YouTube if we had to yeah shop with YouTube if we had to yeah and because the answers are on YouTube and because the answers are on YouTube and because the answers are on YouTube the the the good folks that are out the the the good folks that are out the the the good folks that are out there spreading the amazing things that there spreading the amazing things that there spreading the amazing things that you can do with private Wireless should you can do with private Wireless should you can do with private Wireless should maybe use some of these YouTube links to maybe use some of these YouTube links to maybe use some of these YouTube links to please you think that's that's what I'm please you think that's that's what I'm please you think that's that's what I'm trying to get to to help you

trying to get to to help you trying to get to to help you yeah yeah yeah I remember going down a rabbit hole the I remember going down a rabbit hole the I remember going down a rabbit hole the first time Vico was talking to me about first time Vico was talking to me about first time Vico was talking to me about ubiquity and wisps and stuff and going ubiquity and wisps and stuff and going ubiquity and wisps and stuff and going to that conference in Colorado with our to that conference in Colorado with our to that conference in Colorado with our our buddy Mountain connect and it's our buddy Mountain connect and it's our buddy Mountain connect and it's every the president of the West group is every the president of the West group is every the president of the West group is there and everything like what the hell there and everything like what the hell there and everything like what the hell is this oh go on YouTube and there's is this oh go on YouTube and there's is this oh go on YouTube and there's like a million videos on how to just get like a million videos on how to just get like a million videos on how to just get going yourself and it's not expensive so going yourself and it's not expensive so going yourself and it's not expensive so I think we start the back hall Farm back I think we start the back hall Farm back I think we start the back hall Farm back hall Corporation yeah on helium hey so hall Corporation yeah on helium hey so hall Corporation yeah on helium hey so we're we're uh we're a global we're a we're we're uh we're a global we're a we're we're uh we're a global we're a global show right International this crap even resonate with you because this crap even resonate with you because you know one of the things I noticed you know one of the things I noticed you know one of the things I noticed flying over the uh the UK is you guys flying over the uh the UK is you guys flying over the uh the UK is you guys have literally like torn down all of the have literally like torn down all of the have literally like torn down all of the forests and you know you guys have a lot forests and you know you guys have a lot forests and you know you guys have a lot of farmland and uh you don't probably of farmland and uh you don't probably of farmland and uh you don't probably don't have the density issues that we don't have the density issues that we don't have the density issues that we lack of density issues that we have but lack of density issues that we have but lack of density issues that we have but I mean does any of this stuff resonate I mean does any of this stuff resonate I mean does any of this stuff resonate with what you guys are seeing in the UK with what you guys are seeing in the UK with what you guys are seeing in the UK which is another Innovative Telco which is another Innovative Telco which is another Innovative Telco Wireless Wireless Wireless nation of sorts nation of sorts nation of sorts um I think we have different problems to um I think we have different problems to um I think we have different problems to be honest with you right be honest with you right be honest with you right um we obviously we're a lot yeah well um we obviously we're a lot yeah well um we obviously we're a lot yeah well we're a lot smaller uh um sometimes our we're a lot smaller uh um sometimes our we're a lot smaller uh um sometimes our time to Market can be quite quicker time to Market can be quite quicker time to Market can be quite quicker because of the fact that we're smaller

because of the fact that we're smaller because of the fact that we're smaller um but I think in terms of uh General um but I think in terms of uh General um but I think in terms of uh General kind of wisp kind of wisp kind of wisp um kind of procedures and things that um kind of procedures and things that um kind of procedures and things that we've got going on and what you talk we've got going on and what you talk we've got going on and what you talk about about about um we don't have the scale right because um we don't have the scale right because um we don't have the scale right because the Farms are a lot smaller the Farms are a lot smaller the Farms are a lot smaller um uh I mean you I think you could fit um uh I mean you I think you could fit um uh I mean you I think you could fit the UK inside like Texas twice right or the UK inside like Texas twice right or the UK inside like Texas twice right or something ridiculous so I think you can something ridiculous so I think you can something ridiculous so I think you can fit it in Wisconsin so uh yeah to be honest I I don't I so uh yeah to be honest I I don't I don't have a lot of like case studies I don't have a lot of like case studies I don't have a lot of like case studies I haven't really spoken to many people haven't really spoken to many people haven't really spoken to many people about that so it's not really an issue about that so it's not really an issue about that so it's not really an issue that we tend to have that we tend to have that we tend to have um or that has come up really Leonard to um or that has come up really Leonard to um or that has come up really Leonard to be honest with you yeah no I'm just be honest with you yeah no I'm just be honest with you yeah no I'm just really interested in what it's like in really interested in what it's like in really interested in what it's like in other other other um other regions that have different um other regions that have different um other regions that have different situations than we have in the U.S you situations than we have in the U.S you situations than we have in the U.S you know know know um you know because I mean I mean the US um you know because I mean I mean the US um you know because I mean I mean the US is a huge country right so maybe there's is a huge country right so maybe there's is a huge country right so maybe there's similarities between the challenges we similarities between the challenges we similarities between the challenges we have here connecting agriculture with have here connecting agriculture with have here connecting agriculture with what there may be in let's say Brazil or what there may be in let's say Brazil or what there may be in let's say Brazil or Argentina or whatever we've still got Argentina or whatever we've still got Argentina or whatever we've still got issues of rural uh kind of Wi-Fi to be issues of rural uh kind of Wi-Fi to be issues of rural uh kind of Wi-Fi to be honest with you let alone honest with you let alone honest with you let alone yeah I mean you call it a lot quite a yeah I mean you call it a lot quite a yeah I mean you call it a lot quite a lot of people don't even have uh lot of people don't even have uh lot of people don't even have uh internet uh capabilities uh in the UK internet uh capabilities uh in the UK internet uh capabilities uh in the UK outside of the main cities 5G only works outside of the main cities 5G only works outside of the main cities 5G only works inside the main cities so inside the main cities so inside the main cities so um some some of our infrastructure is um some some of our infrastructure is um some some of our infrastructure is quite Advanced it's quite Advanced and quite Advanced it's quite Advanced and quite Advanced it's quite Advanced and some of it's actually not at all it's some of it's actually not at all it's some of it's actually not at all it's quite it's quite backwards really

quite it's quite backwards really quite it's quite backwards really um so uh yeah I think uh in answer to um so uh yeah I think uh in answer to um so uh yeah I think uh in answer to your question your question your question um yeah some of our challenges are um yeah some of our challenges are um yeah some of our challenges are different different different um just on a different scale right yeah um just on a different scale right yeah um just on a different scale right yeah we're gonna fix it is there anything we're gonna fix it is there anything we're gonna fix it is there anything between London and Manchester is there between London and Manchester is there between London and Manchester is there anything in the middle anything in the middle anything in the middle yeah uh nothing really to kind of talk yeah uh nothing really to kind of talk yeah uh nothing really to kind of talk about about about um um um anyone listen anyone listen to this it's anyone listen anyone listen to this it's anyone listen anyone listen to this it's in Birmingham or any other City he's in Birmingham or any other City he's in Birmingham or any other City he's probably gonna be really upset with me probably gonna be really upset with me probably gonna be really upset with me Manchester Manchester is secretly called Manchester Manchester is secretly called Manchester Manchester is secretly called London 2.0 so um yeah there's there's London 2.0 so um yeah there's there's London 2.0 so um yeah there's there's yeah there's not a lot there really uh I yeah there's not a lot there really uh I yeah there's not a lot there really uh I just started this company I'm calling it just started this company I'm calling it just started this company I'm calling it us Robotics and we're gonna be able to us Robotics and we're gonna be able to us Robotics and we're gonna be able to let people with just their copper phone let people with just their copper phone let people with just their copper phone lines connect to the internet with this lines connect to the internet with this lines connect to the internet with this little box and it makes some weird little box and it makes some weird little box and it makes some weird sounds sounds sounds what a coincidence I just yesterday I what a coincidence I just yesterday I what a coincidence I just yesterday I started a a resale and Salvage of parts started a a resale and Salvage of parts started a a resale and Salvage of parts for 56k modems from uh you know mid 90s for 56k modems from uh you know mid 90s for 56k modems from uh you know mid 90s machines we might we might we might be machines we might we might we might be machines we might we might we might be an ecosystem you and I rob you know what an ecosystem you and I rob you know what an ecosystem you and I rob you know what you get Scrappy when you're in the boat you get Scrappy when you're in the boat you get Scrappy when you're in the boat that David and I are in you know that David and I are in you know that David and I are in you know I'm gonna tell my wife that all of those I'm gonna tell my wife that all of those I'm gonna tell my wife that all of those serial cables that I still have here serial cables that I still have here serial cables that I still have here they they are now worth some money they they are now worth some money they they are now worth some money exactly exactly along exactly exactly along exactly exactly along um whatever happened to the puc you know um whatever happened to the puc you know um whatever happened to the puc you know building out their networks to uh building out their networks to uh building out their networks to uh provide Broadband over power lines I

provide Broadband over power lines I provide Broadband over power lines I we've talked about that one before and we've talked about that one before and we've talked about that one before and we were like what happened with all that we were like what happened with all that we were like what happened with all that research remember it was like it was research remember it was like it was research remember it was like it was like like like all those power lines going to every all those power lines going to every all those power lines going to every damn last house on every Farm and Ranch damn last house on every Farm and Ranch damn last house on every Farm and Ranch why are we not using that and maybe it's why are we not using that and maybe it's why are we not using that and maybe it's probably you know like itron and probably you know like itron and probably you know like itron and Honeywell and census and they probably Honeywell and census and they probably Honeywell and census and they probably just went we just wanted meter reads just went we just wanted meter reads just went we just wanted meter reads research has been completed we're good research has been completed we're good research has been completed we're good to go folks what were you talking about to go folks what were you talking about to go folks what were you talking about foreign the ranches is they don't have enough the ranches is they don't have enough people in business so they're not going people in business so they're not going people in business so they're not going to build it to build it to build it build it out fiber Steve you look like an angel man I am I Steve you look like an angel man I am I I am an angel you know that yeah I am an angel you know that yeah I am an angel you know that yeah freaking backlight yeah I know I'm on my freaking backlight yeah I know I'm on my freaking backlight yeah I know I'm on my mommy's house so uh I'm in a different mommy's house so uh I'm in a different mommy's house so uh I'm in a different environment so you are an angel environment so you are an angel environment so you are an angel definitely I I am yeah yeah it's it's my definitely I I am yeah yeah it's it's my definitely I I am yeah yeah it's it's my yeah I am my 88 year old mother is yeah I am my 88 year old mother is yeah I am my 88 year old mother is listening into these conversations going

listening into these conversations going listening into these conversations going what the hell is he talking about what the hell is he talking about what the hell is he talking about hey uh I have two things one if I can hey uh I have two things one if I can hey uh I have two things one if I can make another million dollars on cdpd make another million dollars on cdpd make another million dollars on cdpd David I'm your guy okay so I gotta I got David I'm your guy okay so I gotta I got David I'm your guy okay so I gotta I got a boatload of that [ __ ] in my pocket a boatload of that [ __ ] in my pocket a boatload of that [ __ ] in my pocket somewhere number two is Rob did you go somewhere number two is Rob did you go somewhere number two is Rob did you go to the John Deere booth at CES to the John Deere booth at CES to the John Deere booth at CES yeah did you did you talk to them about yeah did you did you talk to them about yeah did you did you talk to them about how they're getting the autonomous data how they're getting the autonomous data how they're getting the autonomous data no I didn't talk to him about that no no I didn't talk to him about that no no I didn't talk to him about that no that was autonomous data well autonomous that was autonomous data well autonomous that was autonomous data well autonomous vehicle data sorry okay vehicle data sorry okay vehicle data sorry okay um cbrs cbrs um is what they're doing on the farms um is what they're doing on the farms um is what they're doing on the farms right but yeah but so I said to him I right but yeah but so I said to him I right but yeah but so I said to him I said so you so let me get this John said so you so let me get this John said so you so let me get this John Deere you're laying fiber from the Farms Deere you're laying fiber from the Farms Deere you're laying fiber from the Farms back to a fiber Hub right back to a fiber Hub right back to a fiber Hub right um no no we're not doing that well then um no no we're not doing that well then um no no we're not doing that well then how the hell are you getting this data how the hell are you getting this data how the hell are you getting this data back and they didn't really have a lot back and they didn't really have a lot back and they didn't really have a lot of answers well let me tell you Steve of answers well let me tell you Steve of answers well let me tell you Steve with a cdpd modem that runs on an M with a cdpd modem that runs on an M with a cdpd modem that runs on an M system system system that blazing at that blazing at that blazing at 19.92.

19.92. 19.92. let's go baby a good day Hey listen I let's go baby a good day Hey listen I let's go baby a good day Hey listen I was doing 3270 over cdpd let's go baby was doing 3270 over cdpd let's go baby was doing 3270 over cdpd let's go baby and and for you kids out there that is and and for you kids out there that is and and for you kids out there that is circuit data you know does anybody still have their you know does anybody still have their original compact ipac pocket PC with the original compact ipac pocket PC with the original compact ipac pocket PC with the backpack sled thing and then you can put backpack sled thing and then you can put backpack sled thing and then you can put the cdpd modem in there with the antenna the cdpd modem in there with the antenna the cdpd modem in there with the antenna that's right the little air card that's right the little air card that's right the little air card smartphone error code I wanted one of smartphone error code I wanted one of smartphone error code I wanted one of those so bad I was too poor yeah that those so bad I was too poor yeah that those so bad I was too poor yeah that was awesome was awesome was awesome that was awesome you know what why don't that was awesome you know what why don't that was awesome you know what why don't we seriously I know we just talked a we seriously I know we just talked a we seriously I know we just talked a good game here but we're pretty smart good game here but we're pretty smart good game here but we're pretty smart people and can do stuff we we can solve people and can do stuff we we can solve people and can do stuff we we can solve these back haul things for farms and we these back haul things for farms and we these back haul things for farms and we know how to do it 20 different ways yeah know how to do it 20 different ways yeah know how to do it 20 different ways yeah we just need to productize we need to we just need to productize we need to we just need to productize we need to write stuff on a piece of paper and and write stuff on a piece of paper and and write stuff on a piece of paper and and make it happen no this is rocket science make it happen no this is rocket science make it happen no this is rocket science well I mean I think a lot of it has to well I mean I think a lot of it has to well I mean I think a lot of it has to do with Edge Computing right so if we do with Edge Computing right so if we do with Edge Computing right so if we can just do a model let me take a shot can just do a model let me take a shot can just do a model let me take a shot yeah I'll just take a shot of this I yeah I'll just take a shot of this I yeah I'll just take a shot of this I guess because that's okay oh yeah I mean guess because that's okay oh yeah I mean guess because that's okay oh yeah I mean your eyeballs but Burns yeah yeah I mean your eyeballs but Burns yeah yeah I mean your eyeballs but Burns yeah yeah I mean you're totally right Steve I was just uh you're totally right Steve I was just uh you're totally right Steve I was just uh you know and this is like uh an example you know and this is like uh an example you know and this is like uh an example of of of I mean you know when you have folks who I mean you know when you have folks who I mean you know when you have folks who are comms people Wireless they tend to are comms people Wireless they tend to are comms people Wireless they tend to think for some reason that everything think for some reason that everything think for some reason that everything has to go to the cloud and if it can't

has to go to the cloud and if it can't has to go to the cloud and if it can't get to the Cloud then it's impossible get to the Cloud then it's impossible get to the Cloud then it's impossible and it's like the wrong way of thinking and it's like the wrong way of thinking and it's like the wrong way of thinking about stuff and I think it this is you about stuff and I think it this is you about stuff and I think it this is you know we've all become victims of this know we've all become victims of this know we've all become victims of this indoctrination of cloud everything which indoctrination of cloud everything which indoctrination of cloud everything which is it's just not going to be that way is it's just not going to be that way is it's just not going to be that way um there's so many reasons why but for um there's so many reasons why but for um there's so many reasons why but for more than a decade we've we've just had more than a decade we've we've just had more than a decade we've we've just had it pounded in our heads you know all it pounded in our heads you know all it pounded in our heads you know all workloads are going to go to a workloads are going to go to a workloads are going to go to a hyperscale cloud and what I mean by you hyperscale cloud and what I mean by you hyperscale cloud and what I mean by you know and then people of course get Cloud know and then people of course get Cloud know and then people of course get Cloud native Technologies confused with cloud native Technologies confused with cloud native Technologies confused with cloud and you know it's a mess but I think and you know it's a mess but I think and you know it's a mess but I think that's the big big problem here is that's the big big problem here is that's the big big problem here is mindset honestly it's in the way of the mindset honestly it's in the way of the mindset honestly it's in the way of the solution but first people were told to solution but first people were told to solution but first people were told to build their private clouds right build their private clouds right build their private clouds right and what has what that has been about and what has what that has been about and what has what that has been about yeah so so if we think about Midwest yeah so so if we think about Midwest yeah so so if we think about Midwest Farmers Rogue croppers Farmers Rogue croppers Farmers Rogue croppers and you look from above from satellite and you look from above from satellite and you look from above from satellite you see how you see circles everywhere you see how you see circles everywhere you see how you see circles everywhere in the middle of the country and those in the middle of the country and those in the middle of the country and those things are these pivot irrigation deals things are these pivot irrigation deals things are these pivot irrigation deals yeah yeah yeah we will use the same thinking with our we will use the same thinking with our we will use the same thinking with our pivot wisp deal pivot wisp deal pivot wisp deal stay with me here stay with me and get stay with me here stay with me and get stay with me here stay with me and get it I guarantee you I'm making this up it I guarantee you I'm making this up it I guarantee you I'm making this up but I guarantee you that for sure within but I guarantee you that for sure within but I guarantee you that for sure within five if not 10 miles from every Farm five if not 10 miles from every Farm five if not 10 miles from every Farm there is some place where we can get

there is some place where we can get there is some place where we can get real internet real internet real internet whether it's the house that the farmer whether it's the house that the farmer whether it's the house that the farmer lives in or the packing house or the lives in or the packing house or the lives in or the packing house or the storage facilities after harvest I storage facilities after harvest I storage facilities after harvest I guarantee you for sure within 10 miles guarantee you for sure within 10 miles guarantee you for sure within 10 miles and so what we do is we we will have a and so what we do is we we will have a and so what we do is we we will have a logo that almost looks like the pivot logo that almost looks like the pivot logo that almost looks like the pivot sprinkler thingies and will Beam with sprinkler thingies and will Beam with sprinkler thingies and will Beam with right into the beam whisk into the right into the beam whisk into the right into the beam whisk into the middle of that deal uh for that backhaul middle of that deal uh for that backhaul middle of that deal uh for that backhaul and then we'll create an IP network and then we'll create an IP network and then we'll create an IP network envelope with other Technologies to envelope with other Technologies to envelope with other Technologies to cover that whole thing and it could be cover that whole thing and it could be cover that whole thing and it could be cbrs and something like that or it could cbrs and something like that or it could cbrs and something like that or it could be something I'm going to sign up be something I'm going to sign up be something I'm going to sign up this is the pivot bundle right the pivot this is the pivot bundle right the pivot this is the pivot bundle right the pivot bundle yes yeah is it is it is it a bundle yes yeah is it is it is it a bundle yes yeah is it is it is it a triple play bundle it's a triple play triple play bundle it's a triple play triple play bundle it's a triple play pivot bundle yeah and let's not get pivot bundle yeah and let's not get pivot bundle yeah and let's not get ourselves banned here from oh never mind no you know this stuff I mean seriously no you know this stuff I mean seriously the I I watch the Youtube videos I can the I I watch the Youtube videos I can the I I watch the Youtube videos I can get the stuff on Amazon today and I can get the stuff on Amazon today and I can get the stuff on Amazon today and I can create a pivot thing for my neighbor and create a pivot thing for my neighbor and create a pivot thing for my neighbor and we can do this we can do this and so all we can do this we can do this and so all we can do this we can do this and so all we have to do is connect the dots we have to do is connect the dots we have to do is connect the dots where's the real internet where's the real internet where's the real internet we use that to build our little kids we use that to build our little kids we use that to build our little kids getting bored I'll create the logo getting bored I'll create the logo getting bored I'll create the logo okay and then and then we put it with okay and then and then we put it with okay and then and then we put it with antenna antenna in the middle of the antenna antenna in the middle of the antenna antenna in the middle of the farm

farm farm you know it comes over there and then um you know it comes over there and then um you know it comes over there and then um and then we have a lot of options on how and then we have a lot of options on how and then we have a lot of options on how we connect to that Central thing that's we connect to that Central thing that's we connect to that Central thing that's blanketing the farm blanketing the farm blanketing the farm I'm still going for the balloon Rob I'm I'm still going for the balloon Rob I'm I'm still going for the balloon Rob I'm I'm serious I I will be um you know who I'm serious I I will be um you know who I'm serious I I will be um you know who can split the country because you know can split the country because you know can split the country because you know this takes a lot of surveys and a lot of this takes a lot of surveys and a lot of this takes a lot of surveys and a lot of boots on the ground I'll be that guy boots on the ground I'll be that guy boots on the ground I'll be that guy I'll go out there let me go find my I'll go out there let me go find my I'll go out there let me go find my boots yes hang up yeah this is wrong boots yes hang up yeah this is wrong boots yes hang up yeah this is wrong no we're going to we're gonna do this no we're going to we're gonna do this no we're going to we're gonna do this this because you know what this is part this because you know what this is part this because you know what this is part of the deal because we've talked so much of the deal because we've talked so much of the deal because we've talked so much about solving all these issues for about solving all these issues for about solving all these issues for agriculture but there is critical agriculture but there is critical agriculture but there is critical infrastructure no doubt that really has infrastructure no doubt that really has infrastructure no doubt that really has to be in place in minute first yeah to to be in place in minute first yeah to to be in place in minute first yeah to make it real make it real make it real um because the way I've done it point to um because the way I've done it point to um because the way I've done it point to point from everything is too expensive point from everything is too expensive point from everything is too expensive right right right um or you're doing Laura to Cellular um or you're doing Laura to Cellular um or you're doing Laura to Cellular backhaul point to point backhaul point to point backhaul point to point um but yeah you know um but yeah you know um but yeah you know we could we got this we got this and and we could we got this we got this and and we could we got this we got this and and bail you joined like you know 13 seconds bail you joined like you know 13 seconds bail you joined like you know 13 seconds too late uh and we since you're here too late uh and we since you're here too late uh and we since you're here advertising for your company uh while advertising for your company uh while advertising for your company uh while you're at it tell us what happened to you're at it tell us what happened to you're at it tell us what happened to Powerline carrier and the promise of Powerline carrier and the promise of Powerline carrier and the promise of broadband broadband broadband well I mean to be honest power line well I mean to be honest power line well I mean to be honest power line carrier I mean it still exists carrier I mean it still exists carrier I mean it still exists as long as you have a plug or an outlet as long as you have a plug or an outlet as long as you have a plug or an outlet in your house power line still exists in your house power line still exists in your house power line still exists it's that's where you use it it's that's where you use it it's that's where you use it I mean you want you want you want easy

I mean you want you want you want easy I mean you want you want you want easy repeaters pop in a power line keep your repeaters pop in a power line keep your repeaters pop in a power line keep your net ports are available full shot it's net ports are available full shot it's net ports are available full shot it's just a clunky way to do things just a clunky way to do things just a clunky way to do things you remember all that research my 8k you remember all that research my 8k you remember all that research my 8k Netflix via Powerline carrier doesn't it Netflix via Powerline carrier doesn't it Netflix via Powerline carrier doesn't it work that's not even a thing that's not even a thing but the bill do you remember back in the but the bill do you remember back in the but the bill do you remember back in the 90s a lot of research was done on 90s a lot of research was done on 90s a lot of research was done on ethernet over all the giant transmission ethernet over all the giant transmission ethernet over all the giant transmission lines all over the country different lines all over the country different lines all over the country different companies founded on that well what companies founded on that well what companies founded on that well what happened going after the energies the happened going after the energies the happened going after the energies the energy uh industry right I mean there energy uh industry right I mean there energy uh industry right I mean there were literally BPL that's what it is right I'm just curious that's what it is right I'm just curious what happened to the research did what what happened to the research did what what happened to the research did what is there too much weirdness or is there too much weirdness or is there too much weirdness or interference doing ethernet over power interference doing ethernet over power interference doing ethernet over power lines it's hugely noisy right I mean lines it's hugely noisy right I mean lines it's hugely noisy right I mean first of all if you look at it if you first of all if you look at it if you first of all if you look at it if you look at any given power line from the look at any given power line from the look at any given power line from the distribution substation all the way down distribution substation all the way down distribution substation all the way down to a singular lateral and you look at to a singular lateral and you look at to a singular lateral and you look at the noise that's sitting on a line the noise that's sitting on a line the noise that's sitting on a line the sags and swells right for those that the sags and swells right for those that the sags and swells right for those that don't know sags or when you have dips in don't know sags or when you have dips in don't know sags or when you have dips in power swells or when you have a rise in power swells or when you have a rise in power swells or when you have a rise in power power power that are existent On Any Given power that are existent On Any Given power that are existent On Any Given power line is ridiculous line is ridiculous line is ridiculous so so I mean you want to talk about so so I mean you want to talk about so so I mean you want to talk about buffering buffering buffering that's what I was going to ask is it that's what I was going to ask is it that's what I was going to ask is it like satellite though you know satellite like satellite though you know satellite like satellite though you know satellite it's great download but uploading it's it's great download but uploading it's it's great download but uploading it's extremely like you know DSL all right

extremely like you know DSL all right extremely like you know DSL all right it's working it's worse than it's worse it's working it's worse than it's worse it's working it's worse than it's worse than satellite than satellite than satellite yeah yeah yeah I'm just glad that bill I'm just glad that bill I'm just glad that bill um translated to us what sag and swell um translated to us what sag and swell um translated to us what sag and swell means because I thought it was body means because I thought it was body means because I thought it was body shaming me but yeah no not at all shaming me but yeah no not at all shaming me but yeah no not at all all right thanks I would never do that not to your face not to your face since that bill since that Tech didn't since that bill since that Tech didn't since that bill since that Tech didn't work what if you did the do they ever work what if you did the do they ever work what if you did the do they ever think well could we just have heavily think well could we just have heavily think well could we just have heavily shielded ethernet cable just kind of shielded ethernet cable just kind of shielded ethernet cable just kind of lying next to the power lines and doing lying next to the power lines and doing lying next to the power lines and doing it that way instead of trying to beam it it that way instead of trying to beam it it that way instead of trying to beam it through the power lines themselves through the power lines themselves through the power lines themselves you know they tried a bunch of stuff you know they tried a bunch of stuff you know they tried a bunch of stuff right they tried inductive coupling they right they tried inductive coupling they right they tried inductive coupling they tried uh they tried to run shielded tried uh they tried to run shielded tried uh they tried to run shielded cable but there's there's just no way I cable but there's there's just no way I cable but there's there's just no way I mean there's you can't provide enough mean there's you can't provide enough mean there's you can't provide enough shielding for that okay all right I shielding for that okay all right I shielding for that okay all right I think I saw a movie late one night think I saw a movie late one night think I saw a movie late one night called inductive coupling I don't know called inductive coupling I don't know called inductive coupling I don't know yeah yes it was it was like it was right yeah yes it was it was like it was right yeah yes it was it was like it was right it was on right after Indecent Proposal it was on right after Indecent Proposal it was on right after Indecent Proposal yeah yeah yeah yeah right that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah right that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah right that's right guys right before he switched over to guys right before he switched over to guys right before he switched over to the porn channel oh my God he had to go the porn channel oh my God he had to go the porn channel oh my God he had to go there I had to do that I had to do that because it wasn't too obvious because it wasn't too obvious because it wasn't too obvious [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] well okay so well okay so well okay so could you you so if we're outside on a

could you you so if we're outside on a could you you so if we're outside on a farm and we've already got a whisk farm and we've already got a whisk farm and we've already got a whisk providing an IP network blanket if you providing an IP network blanket if you providing an IP network blanket if you will how do we re all right so will how do we re all right so will how do we re all right so and then you got your big pole here in and then you got your big pole here in and then you got your big pole here in the middle of the farm and so it's the middle of the farm and so it's the middle of the farm and so it's getting connectivity from as far as 10 getting connectivity from as far as 10 getting connectivity from as far as 10 miles away and now it needs to beam what miles away and now it needs to beam what miles away and now it needs to beam what is it beaming Stephanie what is what is it beaming Stephanie what is what is it beaming Stephanie what is what what do you beam is it just Wi-Fi or what do you beam is it just Wi-Fi or what do you beam is it just Wi-Fi or what is that what is that what is that like you're a receiver of with love oh like you're a receiver of with love oh like you're a receiver of with love oh okay okay okay um um um you gotta have point to point from the you gotta have point to point from the you gotta have point to point from the antenna intent to the router the router antenna intent to the router the router antenna intent to the router the router you have Wi-Fi you have your Wi-Fi set you have Wi-Fi you have your Wi-Fi set you have Wi-Fi you have your Wi-Fi set up and your Wi-Fi is how you get up and your Wi-Fi is how you get up and your Wi-Fi is how you get connectivity now out in the farm I don't connectivity now out in the farm I don't connectivity now out in the farm I don't know if we have industrial equipment know if we have industrial equipment know if we have industrial equipment that is waterproof wind roof you know that is waterproof wind roof you know that is waterproof wind roof you know dust proof I think in West Texas like dust proof I think in West Texas like dust proof I think in West Texas like windproof 68. windproof 68. windproof 68. yeah but it also yeah but I mean we're yeah but it also yeah but I mean we're yeah but it also yeah but I mean we're doing it we're doing a tunnel a ton of doing it we're doing a tunnel a ton of doing it we're doing a tunnel a ton of Laura Wan on these Farms Rob I mean Laura Wan on these Farms Rob I mean Laura Wan on these Farms Rob I mean because the cost is so low on the because the cost is so low on the because the cost is so low on the sensors on the soil and Pest Control sensors on the soil and Pest Control sensors on the soil and Pest Control sensors that are there so you know some sensors that are there so you know some sensors that are there so you know some I have a company that we've been working I have a company that we've been working I have a company that we've been working with that makes this combo box for the with that makes this combo box for the with that makes this combo box for the middle of a farm that's got Wi-Fi middle of a farm that's got Wi-Fi middle of a farm that's got Wi-Fi Bluetooth zigbee lorawan 4G LTE all in Bluetooth zigbee lorawan 4G LTE all in Bluetooth zigbee lorawan 4G LTE all in this roaming box so when you talk about this roaming box so when you talk about this roaming box so when you talk about your sprinkler rotations things think your sprinkler rotations things think your sprinkler rotations things think about the in the middle of that rotation about the in the middle of that rotation about the in the middle of that rotation box is a communication Hub that is also

box is a communication Hub that is also box is a communication Hub that is also circling and putting circling and putting circling and putting Steve doesn't incredible Point have some Steve doesn't incredible Point have some Steve doesn't incredible Point have some of those that yeah everything yeah they do this a lot of everything yeah they do this a lot of them they don't have the satellites the them they don't have the satellites the them they don't have the satellites the stuff they they have everything else in stuff they they have everything else in stuff they they have everything else in it but there's some third-party it but there's some third-party it but there's some third-party companies that have done it because but companies that have done it because but companies that have done it because but the satellite still is so limited I mean the satellite still is so limited I mean the satellite still is so limited I mean the data the data throughputs are so low the data the data throughputs are so low the data the data throughputs are so low I mean it's just hard to do it if you I mean it's just hard to do it if you I mean it's just hard to do it if you were going to do a couple of sensors I were going to do a couple of sensors I were going to do a couple of sensors I get it but it's it's not a really good get it but it's it's not a really good get it but it's it's not a really good viable backhaul solution at all but I viable backhaul solution at all but I viable backhaul solution at all but I think I think Rob I think you have to think I think Rob I think you have to think I think Rob I think you have to have something that's that cbrs really have something that's that cbrs really have something that's that cbrs really what you're talking about is a bridge what you're talking about is a bridge what you're talking about is a bridge Network right so yeah you're going to Network right so yeah you're going to Network right so yeah you're going to take that cbrs from where it's being take that cbrs from where it's being take that cbrs from where it's being dropped off from whatever wisp it is dropped off from whatever wisp it is dropped off from whatever wisp it is the the bigger part about it is the the bigger part about it is the the bigger part about it is understanding are you going 30 dbm or understanding are you going 30 dbm or understanding are you going 30 dbm or one watt from that point down with what one watt from that point down with what one watt from that point down with what capacity or throughput so it's really an capacity or throughput so it's really an capacity or throughput so it's really an exercise of what what are you doing and exercise of what what are you doing and exercise of what what are you doing and then to Steve's point I mean when you're then to Steve's point I mean when you're then to Steve's point I mean when you're talking about these multi-function boxes talking about these multi-function boxes talking about these multi-function boxes that actually carry multiple transports that actually carry multiple transports that actually carry multiple transports and everything the only thing that has and everything the only thing that has and everything the only thing that has always concerned me about that is the always concerned me about that is the always concerned me about that is the number of antennas that you need to number of antennas that you need to number of antennas that you need to support it yeah where is the real estate support it yeah where is the real estate support it yeah where is the real estate to actually Mount all of that yeah to actually Mount all of that yeah to actually Mount all of that yeah that's that's why so many of them Bill that's that's why so many of them Bill that's that's why so many of them Bill have done stick to 900 right so right so have done stick to 900 right so right so have done stick to 900 right so right so if it is the Wi-Fi and the Laura Wan if it is the Wi-Fi and the Laura Wan if it is the Wi-Fi and the Laura Wan they're they're not getting the they're they're not getting the they're they're not getting the interference it's it's when they start interference it's it's when they start interference it's it's when they start to add other things into it but the

to add other things into it but the to add other things into it but the other thing too on the point-to-point other thing too on the point-to-point other thing too on the point-to-point stuff I mean I know that it's you know stuff I mean I know that it's you know stuff I mean I know that it's you know we're talking sometimes microwave type we're talking sometimes microwave type we're talking sometimes microwave type of thing and Rob I'm going to go back to of thing and Rob I'm going to go back to of thing and Rob I'm going to go back to what you said the farmers co-ops have what you said the farmers co-ops have what you said the farmers co-ops have become the Wisps of the farmers because become the Wisps of the farmers because become the Wisps of the farmers because those guys are wanting to to make a new those guys are wanting to to make a new those guys are wanting to to make a new stream of recurring revenue and so on stream of recurring revenue and so on stream of recurring revenue and so on the top of the silos and the grain the top of the silos and the grain the top of the silos and the grain storage tanks they are putting microwave storage tanks they are putting microwave storage tanks they are putting microwave dishes up there in order to get out to dishes up there in order to get out to dishes up there in order to get out to these Farms the problem is is the cost these Farms the problem is is the cost these Farms the problem is is the cost if the if you have a family farm they if the if you have a family farm they if the if you have a family farm they ain't paying for this but if it's a ain't paying for this but if it's a ain't paying for this but if it's a corporate Farm then they're willing to corporate Farm then they're willing to corporate Farm then they're willing to absorb the cost of that backhaul and absorb the cost of that backhaul and absorb the cost of that backhaul and doing it but that's it but it's a big doing it but that's it but it's a big doing it but that's it but it's a big there's a big dish difference between there's a big dish difference between there's a big dish difference between that corporate and that Family Farm and that corporate and that Family Farm and that corporate and that Family Farm and the and the budget money that they have the and the budget money that they have the and the budget money that they have yeah that's true you're right you know I yeah that's true you're right you know I yeah that's true you're right you know I I I'm still I I the whole single box I I'm still I I the whole single box I I'm still I I the whole single box multiple transport thing there was a multiple transport thing there was a multiple transport thing there was a there was a company who remained there was a company who remained there was a company who remained nameless nameless nameless um that did that and it was a big giant um that did that and it was a big giant um that did that and it was a big giant box and it had like box and it had like box and it had like four antennas omnidirectional antenna four antennas omnidirectional antenna four antennas omnidirectional antenna coming from it coming from it coming from it and they were advertising this I know and they were advertising this I know and they were advertising this I know some of you already know who I'm talking some of you already know who I'm talking some of you already know who I'm talking about and I they called it one name I about and I they called it one name I about and I they called it one name I called it the furberry milk Pig because it feels to me like the because it feels to me like the engineers that were building it were engineers that were building it were engineers that were building it were like hey you know we're gonna make we're like hey you know we're gonna make we're like hey you know we're gonna make we're gonna make a pig

gonna make a pig gonna make a pig but it's Gotta Have It's gotta have hair but it's Gotta Have It's gotta have hair but it's Gotta Have It's gotta have hair on it on it on it I mean I want it to be very furry and I I mean I want it to be very furry and I I mean I want it to be very furry and I want to be able to milk it bill you know want to be able to milk it bill you know want to be able to milk it bill you know Bill how is your marketing background Bill how is your marketing background Bill how is your marketing background good okay can you bring that to Market good okay can you bring that to Market good okay can you bring that to Market that's awesome that's awesome that's awesome lipstick lipstick lipstick uh her bearing milk Burberry milk Pig uh her bearing milk Burberry milk Pig uh her bearing milk Burberry milk Pig oh my God oh my God you know what how oh my God oh my God you know what how oh my God oh my God you know what how many how many people are going to listen many how many people are going to listen many how many people are going to listen to this going these guys are freaking to this going these guys are freaking to this going these guys are freaking nuts nuts nuts you know what actually this is a really you know what actually this is a really you know what actually this is a really really good uh it's a good episode and I really good uh it's a good episode and I really good uh it's a good episode and I don't think we've ever had nine people don't think we've ever had nine people don't think we've ever had nine people on before Oh my god oh no on before Oh my god oh no on before Oh my god oh no wait I love it see this is what I love wait I love it see this is what I love wait I love it see this is what I love we have represent we have we have our we have represent we have we have our we have represent we have we have our diversity representation right and then diversity representation right and then diversity representation right and then we have our International representation we have our International representation we have our International representation we just need like you know the young we just need like you know the young we just need like you know the young kids to beat up on so anyone who's young kids to beat up on so anyone who's young kids to beat up on so anyone who's young out there like you know younger than 40.

out there like you know younger than 40. out there like you know younger than 40. this is come on come on to show and get this is come on come on to show and get this is come on come on to show and get beat up beat up beat up this is the Brady Bunch of iot coffee this is the Brady Bunch of iot coffee this is the Brady Bunch of iot coffee house right here yeah you're right hey house right here yeah you're right hey house right here yeah you're right hey Marsha Marsha Marsha Marsha Marsha Marsha Marsha Marsha yeah where's Alice Marsha Marsha yeah where's Alice Marsha Marsha yeah where's Alice hey what's up Mark hey how are you sorry hey what's up Mark hey how are you sorry hey what's up Mark hey how are you sorry for being super super late yeah that's for being super super late yeah that's for being super super late yeah that's all right I have my new arm Ambassador all right I have my new arm Ambassador all right I have my new arm Ambassador so I got nice okay iot Stars man what's happening oh cool iot Stars man what's happening oh cool yeah we are ready to rock yeah I I'm yeah we are ready to rock yeah I I'm yeah we are ready to rock yeah I I'm gonna share later some yeah uh the gonna share later some yeah uh the gonna share later some yeah uh the schedule with you but yeah it's it looks schedule with you but yeah it's it looks schedule with you but yeah it's it looks fantastic that's awesome fantastic that's awesome fantastic that's awesome man we need more woman actually this is man we need more woman actually this is man we need more woman actually this is a a a yeah can you mention to everyone like yeah can you mention to everyone like yeah can you mention to everyone like hey we please bring a woman on stage not hey we please bring a woman on stage not hey we please bring a woman on stage not um I couldn't make this trip work with um I couldn't make this trip work with um I couldn't make this trip work with my schedule and my kids schedule so it's my schedule and my kids schedule so it's my schedule and my kids schedule so it's hard hard hard you're gonna have to make it work Andrea you're gonna have to make it work Andrea you're gonna have to make it work Andrea you got to come too Hey listen 800 bucks for a flight on Air Hey listen 800 bucks for a flight on Air Lingus please

please wow this is gonna be that episode hey come on guys Stephanie's driving she hey come on guys Stephanie's driving she has a concentrate has a concentrate has a concentrate Park I'm parked Andrea you gotta come to Barca yeah no Andrea you gotta come to Barca yeah no not this year you need our women women not this year you need our women women not this year you need our women women to represent come on you know it's not to represent come on you know it's not to represent come on you know it's not like we just want all this to be like a like we just want all this to be like a like we just want all this to be like a dude Fest I mean we try and we try to be dude Fest I mean we try and we try to be dude Fest I mean we try and we try to be exclusive I would have to plan it better a long I would have to plan it better a long time ago yeah yeah so hey to all you time ago yeah yeah so hey to all you time ago yeah yeah so hey to all you guys out there who think that we're just guys out there who think that we're just guys out there who think that we're just a bunch of dudes you know trying to make a bunch of dudes you know trying to make a bunch of dudes you know trying to make this like you know uh the what was it this like you know uh the what was it this like you know uh the what was it the the what what what's that the Good the the what what what's that the Good the the what what what's that the Good Fellas of iot it's not true we try to we Fellas of iot it's not true we try to we Fellas of iot it's not true we try to we try to bring the ladies in come on we're try to bring the ladies in come on we're try to bring the ladies in come on we're not a bunch of programmers and we're all not a bunch of programmers and we're all not a bunch of programmers and we're all down with ESG

we have personalities yeah yeah we have personalities yeah yeah absolutely stereotype absolutely stereotype absolutely stereotype but we're gonna provide critical but we're gonna provide critical but we're gonna provide critical infrastructure now for farms for infrastructure now for farms for infrastructure now for farms for terminals you know tank Farms oil and terminals you know tank Farms oil and terminals you know tank Farms oil and gas business that are out there we're gas business that are out there we're gas business that are out there we're gonna go do the whole thing yeah gonna go do the whole thing yeah gonna go do the whole thing yeah um we're gonna compete with Elon and his um we're gonna compete with Elon and his um we're gonna compete with Elon and his star length no I mean actually that's a good idea no I mean actually that's a good idea right I mean you can use that piece just right I mean you can use that piece just right I mean you can use that piece just purely for the connectivity piece yeah purely for the connectivity piece yeah purely for the connectivity piece yeah screw the router replace it put it in screw the router replace it put it in screw the router replace it put it in bridge mode replace the router with bridge mode replace the router with bridge mode replace the router with something else that's going to allow you something else that's going to allow you something else that's going to allow you to actually shape the delivery of the to actually shape the delivery of the to actually shape the delivery of the traffic yeah and you're good to go traffic yeah and you're good to go traffic yeah and you're good to go I'm dear I've had I've had so many I'm dear I've had I've had so many I'm dear I've had I've had so many conversations with starlink about conversations with starlink about conversations with starlink about putting more things inside the box and putting more things inside the box and putting more things inside the box and they want nothing to do with it so it they want nothing to do with it so it they want nothing to do with it so it still will be a daisy chain scenario still will be a daisy chain scenario still will be a daisy chain scenario they have not no desire to be in the iot they have not no desire to be in the iot they have not no desire to be in the iot space I have ad nauseated but but I mean space I have ad nauseated but but I mean space I have ad nauseated but but I mean but look at look at what they were but look at look at what they were but look at look at what they were trying to the problem they were trying trying to the problem they were trying trying to the problem they were trying to solve was how easy is it to get to solve was how easy is it to get to solve was how easy is it to get connected and I I have to give it to connected and I I have to give it to connected and I I have to give it to them they made that they made that uh them they made that they made that uh them they made that they made that uh point and click click click click point and click click click click point and click click click click Finds Its Own satellite and you're up Finds Its Own satellite and you're up Finds Its Own satellite and you're up and running and running and running no technology Savvy mindset is needed at no technology Savvy mindset is needed at no technology Savvy mindset is needed at all and it's and it's one and right now all and it's and it's one and right now all and it's and it's one and right now everybody advice act direct ditch are

everybody advice act direct ditch are everybody advice act direct ditch are scared to death of them and they should scared to death of them and they should scared to death of them and they should be and they should be you know why be and they should be you know why be and they should be you know why because there's been no innovation because there's been no innovation because there's been no innovation correct a dish is a dish is a dish it correct a dish is a dish is a dish it correct a dish is a dish is a dish it doesn't do squat that's right is that is doesn't do squat that's right is that is doesn't do squat that's right is that is that why Delta a Wi-Fi is free now from that why Delta a Wi-Fi is free now from that why Delta a Wi-Fi is free now from uh uh uh [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] I just want to know I just want to know I just want to know I just want to know I just want to know I just want to know why if it's on why if it's on why if it's on Boingo or something like that if you're Boingo or something like that if you're Boingo or something like that if you're paying for it why are they not pouring paying for it why are they not pouring paying for it why are they not pouring that into Innovation because it's Opex that into Innovation because it's Opex that into Innovation because it's Opex that's a good point that's a good point that's a good point oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah also bill that the senior leadership also bill that the senior leadership also bill that the senior leadership they do need that third vacation home by they do need that third vacation home by they do need that third vacation home by the water the water the water we peasants we need to understand this we peasants we need to understand this we peasants we need to understand this okay please yes yes yes okay please yes yes yes okay please yes yes yes the mere Papa could not cannot afford to the mere Papa could not cannot afford to the mere Papa could not cannot afford to do that on their own so you fund it for do that on their own so you fund it for do that on their own so you fund it for somebody else somebody else somebody else there you go there you go there you go that's awesome that's awesome that's awesome we're here to help those people those we're here to help those people those we're here to help those people those people you know it's no but jokes uh people you know it's no but jokes uh people you know it's no but jokes uh sarcasm aside sarcasm aside sarcasm aside um that was you know the day that a new um that was you know the day that a new um that was you know the day that a new entrant for airline based uh you know entrant for airline based uh you know entrant for airline based uh you know ground to air Wi-Fi comes in talk about ground to air Wi-Fi comes in talk about ground to air Wi-Fi comes in talk about a big uh Brownfield uh you know lift and a big uh Brownfield uh you know lift and a big uh Brownfield uh you know lift and replace that I think that's going to be

replace that I think that's going to be replace that I think that's going to be one of those things like hey I've got one of those things like hey I've got one of those things like hey I've got you know 15 years left on this plane you know 15 years left on this plane you know 15 years left on this plane don't talk to me because it's just it's don't talk to me because it's just it's don't talk to me because it's just it's just not going to happen the cost to put just not going to happen the cost to put just not going to happen the cost to put it down to sort like it's just no go it down to sort like it's just no go it down to sort like it's just no go away and we'll do a deal for the next away and we'll do a deal for the next away and we'll do a deal for the next gen oh but wait I gotta talk to Airbus gen oh but wait I gotta talk to Airbus gen oh but wait I gotta talk to Airbus or Boeing or uh you know best sold or or Boeing or uh you know best sold or or Boeing or uh you know best sold or where you know Boom by da where you know Boom by da where you know Boom by da um and we'll you know we'll give you a um and we'll you know we'll give you a um and we'll you know we'll give you a deal in 20 years at this rate I mean do deal in 20 years at this rate I mean do deal in 20 years at this rate I mean do you do you think that that uh starlink you do you think that that uh starlink you do you think that that uh starlink has a direct line did do that once they has a direct line did do that once they has a direct line did do that once they get enough coverage it's game over get enough coverage it's game over get enough coverage it's game over he'll just tweet click here to sign up he'll just tweet click here to sign up he'll just tweet click here to sign up Delta in America Delta in America Delta in America yeah is that right no no you're right yeah is that right no no you're right yeah is that right no no you're right it's just like taking us back to the it's just like taking us back to the it's just like taking us back to the important thing important thing important thing Independence Day Independence Day Independence Day Checkmate yes yeah they're gonna they're gonna use yes yeah they're gonna they're gonna use our own satellites against us yeah and our own satellites against us yeah and our own satellites against us yeah and so we are going to use those satellites so we are going to use those satellites so we are going to use those satellites anyway anyway anyway Elon just gave that whole industry the Elon just gave that whole industry the Elon just gave that whole industry the pint of blood technique yeah you hit technology in the gut and yeah you hit technology in the gut and out drops a quarter blood absolutely um you know what's interesting speaking um you know what's interesting speaking of starlink and it got pressed early on

of starlink and it got pressed early on of starlink and it got pressed early on but nobody talks about anymore what a but nobody talks about anymore what a but nobody talks about anymore what a game changer it was and has continued to game changer it was and has continued to game changer it was and has continued to be with Elon deciding to give be with Elon deciding to give be with Elon deciding to give connectivity to Ukraine crane yeah what connectivity to Ukraine crane yeah what connectivity to Ukraine crane yeah what how fast it was happening what a game how fast it was happening what a game how fast it was happening what a game changer in in Warfare and Battlefield changer in in Warfare and Battlefield changer in in Warfare and Battlefield infrastructure and you know infrastructure and you know infrastructure and you know you've got the Russians taking out power you've got the Russians taking out power you've got the Russians taking out power stations and connectivity and then Elon stations and connectivity and then Elon stations and connectivity and then Elon says Fu to the Russians I'm turning on says Fu to the Russians I'm turning on says Fu to the Russians I'm turning on these satellites suck it you know yeah these satellites suck it you know yeah these satellites suck it you know yeah apparently apparently apparently um we're sent the U.S is sending 31 uh um we're sent the U.S is sending 31 uh um we're sent the U.S is sending 31 uh M1 tanks over there and hopefully M1 tanks over there and hopefully M1 tanks over there and hopefully they're connected and they can be they're connected and they can be they're connected and they can be coordinated in iot tend to do some some coordinated in iot tend to do some some coordinated in iot tend to do some some serious damage yeah iot tanks this might serious damage yeah iot tanks this might serious damage yeah iot tanks this might be though this is interesting when you be though this is interesting when you be though this is interesting when you think about historically this might be think about historically this might be think about historically this might be the first time a single human being was the first time a single human being was the first time a single human being was wealthy enough to make a difference in a wealthy enough to make a difference in a wealthy enough to make a difference in a war you know by delivering technology war you know by delivering technology war you know by delivering technology you know of some kind to one side or the you know of some kind to one side or the you know of some kind to one side or the other that we know at least yeah yeah other that we know at least yeah yeah other that we know at least yeah yeah well known yeah yeah that's pretty well known yeah yeah that's pretty well known yeah yeah that's pretty interesting stuff you know interesting stuff you know interesting stuff you know um yeah and if you guys ever want to um yeah and if you guys ever want to um yeah and if you guys ever want to come to the beach to my house we can come to the beach to my house we can come to the beach to my house we can walk outside to the beach and watch walk outside to the beach and watch walk outside to the beach and watch every starlink launch and Landing it's every starlink launch and Landing it's every starlink launch and Landing it's freaking I'm I'm gonna be very

freaking I'm I'm gonna be very freaking I'm I'm gonna be very disappointed when no more launches are disappointed when no more launches are disappointed when no more launches are there I see it Rob I see it you come I there I see it Rob I see it you come I there I see it Rob I see it you come I mean it's just it's just an incredible mean it's just it's just an incredible mean it's just it's just an incredible sight I still feel like a little kid sight I still feel like a little kid sight I still feel like a little kid watching those first stages come down watching those first stages come down watching those first stages come down and land on the ground and and in per and land on the ground and and in per and land on the ground and and in per right on the X it's these kids are right on the X it's these kids are right on the X it's these kids are unbelievable it's really incredible when unbelievable it's really incredible when unbelievable it's really incredible when you think every time you're just sitting you think every time you're just sitting you think every time you're just sitting there going Thunderbirds Are Go and then for some reason I don't say and then for some reason I don't say that but that's okay I get it or you that but that's okay I get it or you that but that's okay I get it or you were having flashbacks to watching were having flashbacks to watching were having flashbacks to watching episodes of UFO maybe episodes of UFO maybe episodes of UFO maybe yeah maybe I don't know whatever yeah maybe I don't know whatever yeah maybe I don't know whatever whatever happened to the guys that were whatever happened to the guys that were whatever happened to the guys that were making the the single-use rockets that making the the single-use rockets that making the the single-use rockets that for the last you know 60 years of the for the last you know 60 years of the for the last you know 60 years of the space program we were just just like ah space program we were just just like ah space program we were just just like ah it's gonna crash and blow up we'll make it's gonna crash and blow up we'll make it's gonna crash and blow up we'll make another one what happened to those guys another one what happened to those guys another one what happened to those guys well they're still around in Cocoa Beach well they're still around in Cocoa Beach well they're still around in Cocoa Beach and and Merritt Island I mean there's uh and and Merritt Island I mean there's uh and and Merritt Island I mean there's uh there's a couple of companies uh via and there's a couple of companies uh via and there's a couple of companies uh via and a couple of ones that are doing that a couple of ones that are doing that a couple of ones that are doing that still I mean literally you can walk in still I mean literally you can walk in still I mean literally you can walk in those warehouses and David they have those warehouses and David they have those warehouses and David they have like three rockets being built in a like three rockets being built in a like three rockets being built in a warehouse on the floor and those are warehouse on the floor and those are warehouse on the floor and those are single-use guys but it's still you know single-use guys but it's still you know single-use guys but it's still you know millions of dollars for a single use millions of dollars for a single use millions of dollars for a single use um rocket for satellites uh yeah crazy um rocket for satellites uh yeah crazy um rocket for satellites uh yeah crazy crazy and the fun crazy and the fun crazy and the fun I have to beat myself out of here me too

I have to beat myself out of here me too I have to beat myself out of here me too to go to her meeting yeah all right so to go to her meeting yeah all right so to go to her meeting yeah all right so hey hey hey um uh hey sorry to Coffee Talk friends um uh hey sorry to Coffee Talk friends um uh hey sorry to Coffee Talk friends thanks for tuning in and hanging out thanks for tuning in and hanging out thanks for tuning in and hanging out with us thus far with the Brady Bunch with us thus far with the Brady Bunch with us thus far with the Brady Bunch yeah yeah yeah um Mark you and Tom didn't say enough so um Mark you and Tom didn't say enough so um Mark you and Tom didn't say enough so you guys set the agenda for next week you guys set the agenda for next week you guys set the agenda for next week you know that that is your penalty you know that that is your penalty you know that that is your penalty payment there you cannot be quiet on the payment there you cannot be quiet on the payment there you cannot be quiet on the show that's totally wrong and Andrea you show that's totally wrong and Andrea you show that's totally wrong and Andrea you too you're getting really close to too you're getting really close to too you're getting really close to hitting that penalty hitting that penalty hitting that penalty so next week actually it's it's the iot so next week actually it's it's the iot so next week actually it's it's the iot solution wall Congress in Barcelona but I'm gonna be there awesome okay but but I'm gonna be there awesome okay but that could be the agenda then it's that could be the agenda then it's that could be the agenda then it's coffee for people coffee for people coffee for people you can tell us how it was next week you can tell us how it was next week you can tell us how it was next week where is life and uh and uh yeah [Music] [Music] foreign