IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 273 - "When You Wish Upon a AGI..."

Okay, here we go. All right. Okay, here we go. All right. Okay. Uh, so what it should be saying, Okay. Uh, so what it should be saying, Okay. Uh, so what it should be saying, >> if you wish upon a star, >> if you wish upon a star, >> if you wish upon a star, something something something something something something Jiminy Crickets. Jiminy Crickets. Jiminy Crickets. >> Yes. Hey, how's it going? Welcome to >> Yes. Hey, how's it going? Welcome to >> Yes. Hey, how's it going? Welcome to Coffee Talk live from the largest Disney Coffee Talk live from the largest Disney Coffee Talk live from the largest Disney store in the entire store in the entire store in the entire galaxy galaxy galaxy >> in galaxy. That freaking Orlando. I >> in galaxy. That freaking Orlando. I >> in galaxy. That freaking Orlando. I mean, look at the size of this thing. mean, look at the size of this thing. mean, look at the size of this thing. >> That's pretty big. >> That's pretty big. >> That's pretty big. >> It's just It's endless. And so, I'm here >> It's just It's endless. And so, I'm here >> It's just It's endless. And so, I'm here with my family and my kid just with my family and my kid just with my family and my kid just discovered the Star Wars section and I'm discovered the Star Wars section and I'm discovered the Star Wars section and I'm going to run away. going to run away. going to run away. >> You got to run. >> You got to run. >> You got to run. >> I am. I am. Cuz I hear him going, >> I am. I am. Cuz I hear him going, >> I am. I am. Cuz I hear him going, "Daddy, daddy, daddy in the background." "Daddy, daddy, daddy in the background." "Daddy, daddy, daddy in the background." >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. So, I got to hide in the corner >> Yeah. So, I got to hide in the corner >> Yeah. So, I got to hide in the corner somewhere. I want I want I need somewhere. I want I want I need somewhere. I want I want I need I need I need I don't know how he gets I need I need I don't know how he gets I need I need I don't know how he gets to I need to I need to I need >> Star Wars XYZ but yes >> Star Wars XYZ but yes >> Star Wars XYZ but yes >> wait for him to tell you that these >> wait for him to tell you that these >> wait for him to tell you that these action figures will be worth something action figures will be worth something action figures will be worth something in 20 years or something. I don't even in 20 years or something. I don't even in 20 years or something. I don't even >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. So everybody welcome to IC coffee >> Wow. So everybody welcome to IC coffee >> Wow. So everybody welcome to IC coffee talk and Leonard is live from Disney talk and Leonard is live from Disney talk and Leonard is live from Disney World in Orlando. World in Orlando. World in Orlando. Is it nice and cool and low humidity Is it nice and cool and low humidity Is it nice and cool and low humidity there, Leonard? there, Leonard? there, Leonard? >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. 100% >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. 100% >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. 100% disgusting. disgusting. disgusting. >> Yes. I think it's around 90° and about >> Yes. I think it's around 90° and about >> Yes. I think it's around 90° and about uh 1,600% humidity. uh 1,600% humidity. uh 1,600% humidity. >> 1600%. Yeah. That's about right for >> 1600%. Yeah. That's about right for >> 1600%. Yeah. That's about right for Orlando. Orlando. Orlando. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. All I have to do is walk outside >> Yeah. All I have to do is walk outside >> Yeah. All I have to do is walk outside and then all of a sudden water falls out and then all of a sudden water falls out and then all of a sudden water falls out of here. of here. of here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You're getting your money's worth on You're getting your money's worth on You're getting your money's worth on those AirPod Pros. I think it's those AirPod Pros. I think it's those AirPod Pros. I think it's filtering out probably. filtering out probably. filtering out probably. >> Oh, a ridiculous amount of noise. >> Oh, a ridiculous amount of noise. >> Oh, a ridiculous amount of noise. >> I'm We're hearing lots of noise, but >> I'm We're hearing lots of noise, but >> I'm We're hearing lots of noise, but >> we're hearing tons of outside noise. >> we're hearing tons of outside noise. >> we're hearing tons of outside noise. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. You're probably going to have to >> Yeah. You're probably going to have to >> Yeah. You're probably going to have to go outside the store for it to be quiet go outside the store for it to be quiet go outside the store for it to be quiet enough. enough. enough. >> Oh, hell no. >> Oh, hell no. >> Oh, hell no. >> I I know I know this ploy. I know this >> I I know I know this ploy. I know this >> I I know I know this ploy. I know this trick that you're trying to play. trick that you're trying to play. trick that you're trying to play. >> No, no, no. We're >> No, no, no. We're >> No, no, no. We're >> No. I I'll I'll I'll sign off for >> No. I I'll I'll I'll sign off for >> No. I I'll I'll I'll sign off for >> No, you don't have to sign off. You >> No, you don't have to sign off. You >> No, you don't have to sign off. You don't have to sign off.

don't have to sign off. don't have to sign off. AirPods Pros. AirPods Pros. AirPods Pros. >> My wife >> My wife >> My wife My wife pulled these out of the laundry My wife pulled these out of the laundry My wife pulled these out of the laundry last night. >> Yeah, not good. No bueno, as you say. >> Yeah, not good. No bueno, as you say. >> Like they made it through the washer and >> Like they made it through the washer and >> Like they made it through the washer and the dryer. I haven't tried them out yet. the dryer. I haven't tried them out yet. the dryer. I haven't tried them out yet. So, So, So, >> you know what's really cool though about >> you know what's really cool though about >> you know what's really cool though about the AirPod? What I use now is a lot of the AirPod? What I use now is a lot of the AirPod? What I use now is a lot of find me function. Yeah. Have you tried find me function. Yeah. Have you tried find me function. Yeah. Have you tried the ear? It's like ultimat ultra the ear? It's like ultimat ultra the ear? It's like ultimat ultra wideband. Is that what they use? But wideband. Is that what they use? But wideband. Is that what they use? But >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> you're with 20 to 30 ft. You can sort >> you're with 20 to 30 ft. You can sort >> you're with 20 to 30 ft. You can sort of, you know, around his house and find of, you know, around his house and find of, you know, around his house and find the stuff. the stuff. the stuff. >> Wow, that's a >> Wow, that's a >> Wow, that's a >> I have to use it a couple of times >> I have to use it a couple of times >> I have to use it a couple of times because my daughter will take one of because my daughter will take one of because my daughter will take one of them and hide them somewhere. And them and hide them somewhere. And them and hide them somewhere. And >> so Leonard, the sound of the store is >> so Leonard, the sound of the store is >> so Leonard, the sound of the store is overwhelming. overwhelming. overwhelming. >> Maybe mute until you talk and then >> Maybe mute until you talk and then >> Maybe mute until you talk and then >> Oh, okay. It's like overwhelming. We >> Oh, okay. It's like overwhelming. We >> Oh, okay. It's like overwhelming. We can't hear anything else. Now then I can can't hear anything else. Now then I can can't hear anything else. Now then I can have a have a have a >> hold on. Hold on. >> hold on. Hold on. >> hold on. Hold on. >> By the way, speaking of finding things, >> By the way, speaking of finding things, >> By the way, speaking of finding things, so I'm just going to give a little plug.

so I'm just going to give a little plug. so I'm just going to give a little plug. I'm using this little um I'm using this little um I'm using this little um >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> I bought some of these credit cards. >> I bought some of these credit cards. >> I bought some of these credit cards. They're actually like they attach to the They're actually like they attach to the They're actually like they attach to the Find Me fun function of your iPhone. Find Me fun function of your iPhone. Find Me fun function of your iPhone. >> No way. >> No way. >> No way. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, and they're actually >> Yeah. Yeah. So, and they're actually >> Yeah. Yeah. So, and they're actually Mags Safe charged. So, you charge it Mags Safe charged. So, you charge it Mags Safe charged. So, you charge it with MagSafe. with MagSafe. with MagSafe. >> It's a credit card. >> It's a credit card. >> It's a credit card. >> It's a credit card, but it's really It's >> It's a credit card, but it's really It's >> It's a credit card, but it's really It's not a credit. I mean, it's just a not a credit. I mean, it's just a not a credit. I mean, it's just a tracker basically. tracker basically. tracker basically. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> But it's in a form factor of a credit >> But it's in a form factor of a credit >> But it's in a form factor of a credit card. So you stick it in your wallet. card. So you stick it in your wallet. card. So you stick it in your wallet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's that's your tracker. So you >> And that's that's your tracker. So you >> And that's that's your tracker. So you don't have one of those big tags and all don't have one of those big tags and all don't have one of those big tags and all that other crap. that other crap. that other crap. >> Right. Oh, I like that. >> Right. Oh, I like that. >> Right. Oh, I like that. >> That connects right into your find me >> That connects right into your find me >> That connects right into your find me function. I don't know if that has the function. I don't know if that has the function. I don't know if that has the ultra wideband ultra wideband ultra wideband >> like actual near >> like actual near >> like actual near >> treasure hunt type function, right? >> treasure hunt type function, right? >> treasure hunt type function, right? >> But it's pretty cool. So, you can see >> But it's pretty cool. So, you can see >> But it's pretty cool. So, you can see like this kind of stuff now has become, like this kind of stuff now has become, like this kind of stuff now has become, you know, you can stick this in a you know, you can stick this in a you know, you can stick this in a luggage tag and you're like, luggage tag and you're like, luggage tag and you're like, >> um, >> um, >> um, >> I didn't know if that was like one of >> I didn't know if that was like one of >> I didn't know if that was like one of those fancy black uh founder startup those fancy black uh founder startup those fancy black uh founder startup founder credit cards that you're part of founder credit cards that you're part of founder credit cards that you're part of the elite, you know. the elite, you know. the elite, you know. >> Yes, that's right. >> Yes, that's right. >> Yes, that's right. >> Silicon Valley. They only make one of >> Silicon Valley. They only make one of >> Silicon Valley. They only make one of these.

>> Absolutely. You know, now you now, >> Absolutely. You know, now you now, Leonard, as soon as you walk outside of Leonard, as soon as you walk outside of Leonard, as soon as you walk outside of that loud store, I'd love to hear about that loud store, I'd love to hear about that loud store, I'd love to hear about your review. I know you've had the Fold. your review. I know you've had the Fold. your review. I know you've had the Fold. Haven't you had the Galaxy Haven't you had the Galaxy Haven't you had the Galaxy Fold 7? Fold 7? Fold 7? >> Uhoh. >> Uhoh. >> Uhoh. >> device. >> device. >> device. >> He's He's coming in and out of >> He's He's coming in and out of >> He's He's coming in and out of >> No, he can't even hear. >> No, he can't even hear. >> No, he can't even hear. >> Some PTSD on. >> Some PTSD on. >> Some PTSD on. >> He's looking at us funny >> He's looking at us funny >> He's looking at us funny >> cuz I I haven't been to a Disney store >> cuz I I haven't been to a Disney store >> cuz I I haven't been to a Disney store in a long time. But in a long time. But in a long time. But >> I know I guess Square. Remember the one >> I know I guess Square. Remember the one >> I know I guess Square. Remember the one in Bellev Square? I don't know if it's in Bellev Square? I don't know if it's in Bellev Square? I don't know if it's still still still >> Yeah. I don't know if it's there >> Yeah. I don't know if it's there >> Yeah. I don't know if it's there anymore, but that was Yeah. anymore, but that was Yeah. anymore, but that was Yeah. >> Can you hear me now? >> Can you hear me now? >> Can you hear me now? >> Yeah, we can hear you along with the >> Yeah, we can hear you along with the >> Yeah, we can hear you along with the rest of rest of rest of >> you, but we can hear you. >> you, but we can hear you. >> you, but we can hear you. >> Sounds like there's a lot of screaming. >> Sounds like there's a lot of screaming. >> Sounds like there's a lot of screaming. >> There's a lot of screaming in the store. >> There's a lot of screaming in the store. >> There's a lot of screaming in the store. You just need to go outside into the You just need to go outside into the You just need to go outside into the real world. real world. real world. >> Screaming for >> Screaming for >> Screaming for >> you need to leave the store and go >> you need to leave the store and go >> you need to leave the store and go outside outside outside >> there >> there >> there >> into the warm. Let that warm humidity >> into the warm. Let that warm humidity >> into the warm. Let that warm humidity hug wrap around you. It help you. hug wrap around you. It help you. hug wrap around you. It help you. >> It says, "Welcome to Florida." >> It says, "Welcome to Florida." >> It says, "Welcome to Florida." >> Like a python.

>> Like a python. >> Like a python. >> There we are. Yeah. Not going to happen >> There we are. Yeah. Not going to happen >> There we are. Yeah. Not going to happen because I like I told you, it's like 90° because I like I told you, it's like 90° because I like I told you, it's like 90° and it's and it's and it's so disgusting out there, dude. And then so disgusting out there, dude. And then so disgusting out there, dude. And then I'll probably like catch a serious I'll probably like catch a serious I'll probably like catch a serious respiratory disease or something. respiratory disease or something. respiratory disease or something. >> No. Back and forth. It's ridiculous. >> No. Back and forth. It's ridiculous. >> No. Back and forth. It's ridiculous. >> You can't wuss out like that, dude. What >> You can't wuss out like that, dude. What >> You can't wuss out like that, dude. What if you were living in Singapore? What if if you were living in Singapore? What if if you were living in Singapore? What if you were living in Singapore? It's like you were living in Singapore? It's like you were living in Singapore? It's like that every day. Singapore, that every day. Singapore, that every day. Singapore, >> then you would have to suffer this >> then you would have to suffer this >> then you would have to suffer this noise. noise. noise. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Yeah, I know you got what it takes to >> Yeah, I know you got what it takes to >> Yeah, I know you got what it takes to handle the humidity in here. handle the humidity in here. handle the humidity in here. >> You guys are No, I don't. I'm >> You guys are No, I don't. I'm >> You guys are No, I don't. I'm California, dude. This stuff is sacri. California, dude. This stuff is sacri. California, dude. This stuff is sacri. This is evil. This is like straight up This is evil. This is like straight up This is evil. This is like straight up evil stuff. evil stuff. evil stuff. >> Oh my gosh. We want to send an apology >> Oh my gosh. We want to send an apology >> Oh my gosh. We want to send an apology out to all of our listeners in the out to all of our listeners in the out to all of our listeners in the greater Orlando area. greater Orlando area. greater Orlando area. >> Orlando. We love Orlando. love Orlando >> Orlando. We love Orlando. love Orlando >> Orlando. We love Orlando. love Orlando >> stream right now. >> stream right now. >> stream right now. >> You know, Orlando and Vegas are kind of >> You know, Orlando and Vegas are kind of >> You know, Orlando and Vegas are kind of our two biggest event places in the our two biggest event places in the our two biggest event places in the United States actually that have enough United States actually that have enough United States actually that have enough convention space and hotels, you know, convention space and hotels, you know, convention space and hotels, you know, to do the largest conferences and stuff to do the largest conferences and stuff to do the largest conferences and stuff like that.

like that. like that. >> Well, you know, it's it's pretty loud >> Well, you know, it's it's pretty loud >> Well, you know, it's it's pretty loud out here, too, cuz they have all that out here, too, cuz they have all that out here, too, cuz they have all that Disney music going on, right? Disney music going on, right? Disney music going on, right? >> Yeah, they do. >> Yeah, they do. >> Yeah, they do. >> It's beautiful. Hey, no, I have nothing >> It's beautiful. Hey, no, I have nothing >> It's beautiful. Hey, no, I have nothing against Orlando. If it was in a against Orlando. If it was in a against Orlando. If it was in a different state, like in California, different state, like in California, different state, like in California, then yes, I would love it even more. then yes, I would love it even more. then yes, I would love it even more. >> Yeah. If only they had a Disneyland in >> Yeah. If only they had a Disneyland in >> Yeah. If only they had a Disneyland in California. That would be California. That would be California. That would be >> If only. >> If only. >> If only. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> One of those. >> One of those. >> One of those. >> Preferably. So, >> Preferably. So, >> Preferably. So, >> I I'm serious, man. I do not know how >> I I'm serious, man. I do not know how >> I I'm serious, man. I do not know how people walk around here. It's just I people walk around here. It's just I people walk around here. It's just I mean, you mean, you mean, you >> they acclimate. I don't know. >> they acclimate. I don't know. >> they acclimate. I don't know. >> You acclimate. You just do. >> You acclimate. You just do. >> You acclimate. You just do. >> You get one of those big turkey legs, >> You get one of those big turkey legs, >> You get one of those big turkey legs, you know, big and a big gold thing and you know, big and a big gold thing and you know, big and a big gold thing and you just, you know, acclimate. you just, you know, acclimate. you just, you know, acclimate. >> Exactly. You know. >> Exactly. You know. >> Exactly. You know. >> So, hey, is is Debbie on? I just saw >> So, hey, is is Debbie on? I just saw >> So, hey, is is Debbie on? I just saw Debbie. Hey, Debbie. What's up? Debbie. Hey, Debbie. What's up? Debbie. Hey, Debbie. What's up? >> She's on mute. >> She's on mute. >> She's on mute. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> While she's unmuting. >> While she's unmuting. >> While she's unmuting. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> while while she's unmuting. Yes, I have >> while while she's unmuting. Yes, I have >> while while she's unmuting. Yes, I have it on me right now. it on me right now. it on me right now. >> All right, show it. >> All right, show it. >> All right, show it. >> This is the Samsung >> This is the Samsung >> This is the Samsung >> um Z Fold 7.

>> um Z Fold 7. >> um Z Fold 7. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And here it is folded out. I kind >> Right. And here it is folded out. I kind >> Right. And here it is folded out. I kind of of of >> Wow, look at you holding it open like >> Wow, look at you holding it open like >> Wow, look at you holding it open like that. that. that. >> Yeah, it's pretty um It's pretty cool. >> Yeah, it's pretty um It's pretty cool. >> Yeah, it's pretty um It's pretty cool. Uh I'm digging it. Uh, you know, the Uh I'm digging it. Uh, you know, the Uh I'm digging it. Uh, you know, the thing that I really love about this foam thing that I really love about this foam thing that I really love about this foam is, look how thin it is. is, look how thin it is. is, look how thin it is. >> About as thin as most premium uh slab >> About as thin as most premium uh slab >> About as thin as most premium uh slab phones, right? phones, right? phones, right? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And when it's sitting on your desk, >> And when it's sitting on your desk, >> And when it's sitting on your desk, Yeah. you don't you don't Yeah. you don't you don't Yeah. you don't you don't >> u notice otherwise, you know, you just >> u notice otherwise, you know, you just >> u notice otherwise, you know, you just think it's just a regular slab think it's just a regular slab think it's just a regular slab >> um smartphone, right? And because before >> um smartphone, right? And because before >> um smartphone, right? And because before these things used to be so thick, these these things used to be so thick, these these things used to be so thick, these foldables used to be so thick. foldables used to be so thick. foldables used to be so thick. >> Yeah. They basically were like were >> Yeah. They basically were like were >> Yeah. They basically were like were foldable computers, right? Like a a foldable computers, right? Like a a foldable computers, right? Like a a netbook, netbook, netbook, right? right? right? >> That's a blast from the past. A netbook. >> That's a blast from the past. A netbook. >> That's a blast from the past. A netbook. >> Yeah. But when they when this thing is >> Yeah. But when they when this thing is >> Yeah. But when they when this thing is folded out, man, it is like ridiculously folded out, man, it is like ridiculously folded out, man, it is like ridiculously thin. I mean, look at that. thin. I mean, look at that. thin. I mean, look at that. >> That is razor thin. >> That is razor thin. >> That is razor thin. >> That is pretty Yeah. The camera bump is >> That is pretty Yeah. The camera bump is >> That is pretty Yeah. The camera bump is massive.

massive. massive. >> Yeah. I mean, now now the camera bump's >> Yeah. I mean, now now the camera bump's >> Yeah. I mean, now now the camera bump's going to be thicker than the phone at going to be thicker than the phone at going to be thicker than the phone at some point, some point, some point, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. And here's the odd thing. If >> Yeah. Yeah. And here's the odd thing. If >> Yeah. Yeah. And here's the odd thing. If it wasn't for the camera bump, it wasn't for the camera bump, it wasn't for the camera bump, um, if it wasn't for the camera bump, um, if it wasn't for the camera bump, um, if it wasn't for the camera bump, we'd probably drop this thing all the we'd probably drop this thing all the we'd probably drop this thing all the time because it's so freaking thin. You time because it's so freaking thin. You time because it's so freaking thin. You know what I'm saying? So, for people who know what I'm saying? So, for people who know what I'm saying? So, for people who have larger hands are going to have have larger hands are going to have have larger hands are going to have trouble handling the phone trouble handling the phone trouble handling the phone >> when it's folded out because it's I >> when it's folded out because it's I >> when it's folded out because it's I mean, jeez, it's way thinner than Yeah. mean, jeez, it's way thinner than Yeah. mean, jeez, it's way thinner than Yeah. >> Right. So, um, frankly, uh, amazing >> Right. So, um, frankly, uh, amazing >> Right. So, um, frankly, uh, amazing piece of engineering here. We have to piece of engineering here. We have to piece of engineering here. We have to hand it to the folks at Samsung and hand it to the folks at Samsung and hand it to the folks at Samsung and undoubtedly our friend undoubtedly our friend undoubtedly our friend >> for putting together some. >> for putting together some. >> for putting together some. >> And you know what's uh really cool about >> And you know what's uh really cool about >> And you know what's uh really cool about this thing is uh it runs really cool this thing is uh it runs really cool this thing is uh it runs really cool considering how thin this thing is, considering how thin this thing is, considering how thin this thing is, right? You would think that because of right? You would think that because of right? You would think that because of how how how uh how thin it is that it would have uh how thin it is that it would have uh how thin it is that it would have trouble dissipating heat, trouble dissipating heat, trouble dissipating heat, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Actually does a great job. >> Actually does a great job. >> Actually does a great job. >> It has a lot of surface area. So >> It has a lot of surface area. So >> It has a lot of surface area. So >> it does. It does. But still, do you know >> it does. It does. But still, do you know >> it does. It does. But still, do you know what I'm saying? what I'm saying? what I'm saying? >> Stacking you're not stacking stuff >> Stacking you're not stacking stuff >> Stacking you're not stacking stuff together together together >> and that Yeah. And and I think that's >> and that Yeah. And and I think that's >> and that Yeah. And and I think that's one of the advantages of now these one of the advantages of now these one of the advantages of now these foldable designs and and um what the foldable designs and and um what the foldable designs and and um what the OEMs like Samsung and Chinese vendors OEMs like Samsung and Chinese vendors OEMs like Samsung and Chinese vendors especially are are able to achieve now. especially are are able to achieve now. especially are are able to achieve now. And um And um And um >> I don't know it's pretty cool. >> I don't know it's pretty cool. >> I don't know it's pretty cool. >> I wonder if like using uh I know there's >> I wonder if like using uh I know there's >> I wonder if like using uh I know there's a lot of tools being used for EDA and a a lot of tools being used for EDA and a a lot of tools being used for EDA and a lot of tools Oh, I'm sorry. Debbiey's lot of tools Oh, I'm sorry. Debbiey's lot of tools Oh, I'm sorry. Debbiey's talking. talking. talking. >> All right, Debbie. >> All right, Debbie. >> All right, Debbie. So, do you uh find that you're using it So, do you uh find that you're using it So, do you uh find that you're using it a lot more? You like it? a lot more? You like it? a lot more? You like it? >> Um, yeah. I mean, I have to be honest >> Um, yeah. I mean, I have to be honest >> Um, yeah. I mean, I have to be honest with you. The with you. The with you. The I'm I'm still not really bought into the I'm I'm still not really bought into the I'm I'm still not really bought into the whole foldable thing. Um, I think for whole foldable thing. Um, I think for whole foldable thing. Um, I think for those who find it, those who find it, those who find it, you know, tickling their fancy. Okay. you know, tickling their fancy. Okay. you know, tickling their fancy. Okay. Yeah. All right. Uh, there are some Yeah. All right. Uh, there are some Yeah. All right. Uh, there are some folks who really love the foldable form folks who really love the foldable form folks who really love the foldable form factor, right? I still don't see the factor, right? I still don't see the factor, right? I still don't see the utility of it because what you end up utility of it because what you end up utility of it because what you end up experiencing is a lot of wasted space.

experiencing is a lot of wasted space. experiencing is a lot of wasted space. So, I think I mentioned this before. One So, I think I mentioned this before. One So, I think I mentioned this before. One of the things that I didn't really dig of the things that I didn't really dig of the things that I didn't really dig about, about, about, excuse me, the Windows phone is with excuse me, the Windows phone is with excuse me, the Windows phone is with Metro there was a lot of wasted space, a Metro there was a lot of wasted space, a Metro there was a lot of wasted space, a lot of navigation, right? I kind of feel lot of navigation, right? I kind of feel lot of navigation, right? I kind of feel you have that same problem with you have that same problem with you have that same problem with foldables. the OS and all the content foldables. the OS and all the content foldables. the OS and all the content are not um optimally are not um optimally are not um optimally formatted and designed to take advantage formatted and designed to take advantage formatted and designed to take advantage of the screen space or screen real of the screen space or screen real of the screen space or screen real estate. So, for instance, if you're estate. So, for instance, if you're estate. So, for instance, if you're watching a movie, you have these huge watching a movie, you have these huge watching a movie, you have these huge letter boxes on the bottom and the top, letter boxes on the bottom and the top, letter boxes on the bottom and the top, >> right? And you actually don't really get >> right? And you actually don't really get >> right? And you actually don't really get as much viewing space as you would if as much viewing space as you would if as much viewing space as you would if you just held a flab phone horizontally you just held a flab phone horizontally you just held a flab phone horizontally and were and you know you might have a and were and you know you might have a and were and you know you might have a smaller letter box on the left and right smaller letter box on the left and right smaller letter box on the left and right of your your screen, right? Um and so I of your your screen, right? Um and so I of your your screen, right? Um and so I mean you know it's just mean you know it's just mean you know it's just it takes away from the the advantage of it takes away from the the advantage of it takes away from the the advantage of having that kind of real estate. You having that kind of real estate. You having that kind of real estate. You know what I'm saying? because there's a know what I'm saying? because there's a know what I'm saying? because there's a lot of dead blank space. And that that's lot of dead blank space. And that that's lot of dead blank space. And that that's a problem a lot of the flip and the fold a problem a lot of the flip and the fold a problem a lot of the flip and the fold designs have. Even with the flips, you designs have. Even with the flips, you designs have. Even with the flips, you have all this wasted real estate on the have all this wasted real estate on the have all this wasted real estate on the top and the bottom, you know, and you top and the bottom, you know, and you top and the bottom, you know, and you know, media is just not formatted in a know, media is just not formatted in a know, media is just not formatted in a way that is uh, you know, conducive or way that is uh, you know, conducive or way that is uh, you know, conducive or can take advantage of uh these new um, can take advantage of uh these new um, can take advantage of uh these new um, >> but would you say that about the iPad as >> but would you say that about the iPad as >> but would you say that about the iPad as well?

well? well? I mean, I mean, I mean, >> yes, we watch 16 by9 videos and yes, you >> yes, we watch 16 by9 videos and yes, you >> yes, we watch 16 by9 videos and yes, you get a band and that's just the way it get a band and that's just the way it get a band and that's just the way it is, you know. is, you know. is, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's like um 4 >> Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's like um 4 >> Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's like um 4 by 4x3 aspect ratio. by 4x3 aspect ratio. by 4x3 aspect ratio. So, but one of our So, but one of our So, but one of our >> one of our analyst >> one of our analyst >> one of our analyst >> where is >> where is >> where is >> one of our analyst friends Posh I think >> one of our analyst friends Posh I think >> one of our analyst friends Posh I think came out he did his review of the device came out he did his review of the device came out he did his review of the device and he thinks that it's the ultimate and he thinks that it's the ultimate and he thinks that it's the ultimate productivity device. productivity device. productivity device. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> You know. >> You know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Huh? I think I have a friend that has a >> Huh? I think I have a friend that has a >> Huh? I think I have a friend that has a flip that he loves. I'm sorry, a fold flip that he loves. I'm sorry, a fold flip that he loves. I'm sorry, a fold foldable that he loves. He likes it for foldable that he loves. He likes it for foldable that he loves. He likes it for email because he feels like read more of email because he feels like read more of email because he feels like read more of a email on the screen. a email on the screen. a email on the screen. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Get the big screen email. >> Get the big screen email. >> Get the big screen email. >> Yeah, you can. But like I I said, I >> Yeah, you can. But like I I said, I >> Yeah, you can. But like I I said, I think um there's folks who think um there's folks who think um there's folks who uh are going to love it there and uh are going to love it there and uh are going to love it there and they'll have to love it. You they'll they'll have to love it. You they'll they'll have to love it. You they'll have to also love the $2,000 price tag.

have to also love the $2,000 price tag. have to also love the $2,000 price tag. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. >> And then uh for others it's just you >> And then uh for others it's just you >> And then uh for others it's just you know it's not that big of a deal. know it's not that big of a deal. know it's not that big of a deal. >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> So basically >> So basically >> So basically >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So the device has gotten dramatically >> So the device has gotten dramatically >> So the device has gotten dramatically better but that price tag is still better but that price tag is still better but that price tag is still preventing rapid adoption preventing rapid adoption preventing rapid adoption >> of that. >> of that. >> of that. >> And also it comes down to the software >> And also it comes down to the software >> And also it comes down to the software too. The software has to be there. too. The software has to be there. too. The software has to be there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. And and then some of some of the >> Yeah. And and then some of some of the >> Yeah. And and then some of some of the applications actually uh don't format applications actually uh don't format applications actually uh don't format well in well in well in um in the wide screen, you know, like um in the wide screen, you know, like um in the wide screen, you know, like when it's the folded out um screen, the when it's the folded out um screen, the when it's the folded out um screen, the >> uh the large screen and uh and >> uh the large screen and uh and >> uh the large screen and uh and you find that you find that you find that some of the navigations and some some of the navigations and some some of the navigations and some functionality are simply not there and functionality are simply not there and functionality are simply not there and so you can't use the app. You know what so you can't use the app. You know what so you can't use the app. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying? >> And so they haven't they haven't really >> And so they haven't they haven't really >> And so they haven't they haven't really figured all this stuff out as much as figured all this stuff out as much as figured all this stuff out as much as maybe Android and Google are saying, maybe Android and Google are saying, maybe Android and Google are saying, "Hey, you know, we're we're all um you "Hey, you know, we're we're all um you "Hey, you know, we're we're all um you know, our operating system fully know, our operating system fully know, our operating system fully supports foldables." Well, your your uh supports foldables." Well, your your uh supports foldables." Well, your your uh software stack evidently software stack evidently software stack evidently doesn't translate or anything into the doesn't translate or anything into the doesn't translate or anything into the different um different um different um >> well the app developers probably have to >> well the app developers probably have to >> well the app developers probably have to do a little bit of work to take do a little bit of work to take do a little bit of work to take advantage of the new consoles and advantage of the new consoles and advantage of the new consoles and >> they're probably like h should do that

>> they're probably like h should do that >> they're probably like h should do that and how many are sold and you know and how many are sold and you know and how many are sold and you know there's a whole trade-off discussion there's a whole trade-off discussion there's a whole trade-off discussion internally on oh do we rev the app to do internally on oh do we rev the app to do internally on oh do we rev the app to do this and blah blah blah. Yeah, but I this and blah blah blah. Yeah, but I this and blah blah blah. Yeah, but I mean mean mean >> goes below the cut line. >> goes below the cut line. >> goes below the cut line. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> But even then, I mean, there there's a >> But even then, I mean, there there's a >> But even then, I mean, there there's a way of taking, let's say, uh um your way of taking, let's say, uh um your way of taking, let's say, uh um your typical typical typical uh 16x9 uh 16x9 uh 16x9 aspect ratio type aspect ratio type aspect ratio type um format and then uh you know having um format and then uh you know having um format and then uh you know having the application adapted. But what they the application adapted. But what they the application adapted. But what they do is they try to press that format. Do do is they try to press that format. Do do is they try to press that format. Do you know what I'm saying? stretch you know what I'm saying? stretch you know what I'm saying? stretch everything across everything like you everything across everything like you everything across everything like you the whole um screen real estate and then the whole um screen real estate and then the whole um screen real estate and then you actually lose buttons and uh you actually lose buttons and uh you actually lose buttons and uh navigation and then um you know as a navigation and then um you know as a navigation and then um you know as a result and inability to actually use the result and inability to actually use the result and inability to actually use the the software or the application. So the software or the application. So the software or the application. So >> it it's weird. There's a there's a >> it it's weird. There's a there's a >> it it's weird. There's a there's a learning curve. There's like things that learning curve. There's like things that learning curve. There's like things that still need to be worked out which still need to be worked out which still need to be worked out which surprises me given given this is like surprises me given given this is like surprises me given given this is like the seventh generation of these things.

the seventh generation of these things. the seventh generation of these things. But like I said, I if you've um I'm just But like I said, I if you've um I'm just But like I said, I if you've um I'm just really really really astonished how well they've designed the astonished how well they've designed the astonished how well they've designed the device. And it's good because um the device. And it's good because um the device. And it's good because um the Chinese guys were doing some scary stuff Chinese guys were doing some scary stuff Chinese guys were doing some scary stuff last year at things that they announced last year at things that they announced last year at things that they announced there and um you know earlier this year there and um you know earlier this year there and um you know earlier this year when uh uh Huawei announced their when uh uh Huawei announced their when uh uh Huawei announced their trifold, right? So trifold, right? So trifold, right? So >> these things are um uh this category of >> these things are um uh this category of >> these things are um uh this category of devices is becoming important in that devices is becoming important in that devices is becoming important in that regard and I I'm less sold again on the regard and I I'm less sold again on the regard and I I'm less sold again on the screens, you know, being able to fold screens, you know, being able to fold screens, you know, being able to fold the device. the device. the device. I'm more um I'm looking more at like how I'm more um I'm looking more at like how I'm more um I'm looking more at like how it's driving new thinking in the it's driving new thinking in the it's driving new thinking in the engineering and the design of of these engineering and the design of of these engineering and the design of of these devices, right? in terms of um the devices, right? in terms of um the devices, right? in terms of um the constraints that these guys have to deal constraints that these guys have to deal constraints that these guys have to deal with, right? with, right? with, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In order to make these devices work and >> In order to make these devices work and >> In order to make these devices work and and you know, I had a podcast where I I and you know, I had a podcast where I I and you know, I had a podcast where I I stated this is probably about the time stated this is probably about the time stated this is probably about the time where Apple needs to start thinking where Apple needs to start thinking where Apple needs to start thinking about these things. You know what I'm about these things. You know what I'm about these things. You know what I'm saying?

saying? saying? >> Yeah. Where's Apple? >> Yeah. Where's Apple? >> Yeah. Where's Apple? >> Uh just because um the thinner designs >> Uh just because um the thinner designs >> Uh just because um the thinner designs are going to drive advanced engineering are going to drive advanced engineering are going to drive advanced engineering and uh Apple needs air. I think Apple's and uh Apple needs air. I think Apple's and uh Apple needs air. I think Apple's busy making uh oneoff awards for busy making uh oneoff awards for busy making uh oneoff awards for President Trump and for his man. President Trump and for his man. President Trump and for his man. >> We're going to manufacture more stuff in >> We're going to manufacture more stuff in >> We're going to manufacture more stuff in America. America. America. >> It was like he he was presented with a >> It was like he he was presented with a >> It was like he he was presented with a like a special crystal like a special crystal like a special crystal thing from Apple. So now everyone's thing from Apple. So now everyone's thing from Apple. So now everyone's saying there's probably a listening saying there's probably a listening saying there's probably a listening device in that little uh device in that little uh device in that little uh >> nice little thing. So Apple can listen >> nice little thing. So Apple can listen >> nice little thing. So Apple can listen in on that. in on that. in on that. >> That's right. Can listen now. But I >> That's right. Can listen now. But I >> That's right. Can listen now. But I think you're right. You know, I'm a big think you're right. You know, I'm a big think you're right. You know, I'm a big fan of great industrial design and great fan of great industrial design and great fan of great industrial design and great engineering, and I think Samsung has engineering, and I think Samsung has engineering, and I think Samsung has knocked it out of the park with its knocked it out of the park with its knocked it out of the park with its industrial design. industrial design. industrial design. >> But the software, that's the thing is >> But the software, that's the thing is >> But the software, that's the thing is where that'll be. So, once Apple gets where that'll be. So, once Apple gets where that'll be. So, once Apple gets into it, I mean, I think thinking into it, I mean, I think thinking into it, I mean, I think thinking through that kind of software experience through that kind of software experience through that kind of software experience is is is >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> pretty critical. But the thing $2,000 >> pretty critical. But the thing $2,000 >> pretty critical. But the thing $2,000 price point, this is still an early price point, this is still an early price point, this is still an early adopter thing. And so, the people that adopter thing. And so, the people that adopter thing. And so, the people that are buying it are going to are buying it are going to are buying it are going to adapt. It would be the same people who adapt. It would be the same people who adapt. It would be the same people who buy the Vision Pro.

>> No, maybe maybe not. I mean, I think >> No, maybe maybe not. I mean, I think there'll be a class of I, you know, there'll be a class of I, you know, there'll be a class of I, you know, smart, you know, iPhone users who really smart, you know, iPhone users who really smart, you know, iPhone users who really uh give this serious thought. uh give this serious thought. uh give this serious thought. >> Oh, yeah. No, I think if I if Apple came >> Oh, yeah. No, I think if I if Apple came >> Oh, yeah. No, I think if I if Apple came out with the with I think they'd get out with the with I think they'd get out with the with I think they'd get probably an order of magnitude more probably an order of magnitude more probably an order of magnitude more sales than Samsung. sales than Samsung. sales than Samsung. >> Yeah. Oh, they would they would they >> Yeah. Oh, they would they would they >> Yeah. Oh, they would they would they would accelerate the category. Um, and I would accelerate the category. Um, and I would accelerate the category. Um, and I I'm pretty sure that the software um I'm pretty sure that the software um I'm pretty sure that the software um would quickly adapt. They would be would quickly adapt. They would be would quickly adapt. They would be optimized for the the screen real optimized for the the screen real optimized for the the screen real estate. Um, estate. Um, estate. Um, about it. about it. about it. >> What are we expecting from Apple this >> What are we expecting from Apple this >> What are we expecting from Apple this September at their next event? Are we do September at their next event? Are we do September at their next event? Are we do we think a fold's coming out or are they we think a fold's coming out or are they we think a fold's coming out or are they going to give us a iPhone air? going to give us a iPhone air? going to give us a iPhone air? >> Uh, air. It seems like air >> Uh, air. It seems like air >> Uh, air. It seems like air um then they'll probably go there with um then they'll probably go there with um then they'll probably go there with air. air. air. >> Yeah. I mean simply because you got to >> Yeah. I mean simply because you got to >> Yeah. I mean simply because you got to go there. Yeah. Like one of the comments go there. Yeah. Like one of the comments go there. Yeah. Like one of the comments that Picos made on my podcast is that um that Picos made on my podcast is that um that Picos made on my podcast is that um Samsung went went with the um what is it Samsung went went with the um what is it Samsung went went with the um what is it the uh S25 the uh S25 the uh S25 um that thin one that they have? Ultra um that thin one that they have? Ultra um that thin one that they have? Ultra or what have you.

or what have you. or what have you. >> Yeah. Oh, Edge. >> Yeah. Oh, Edge. >> Yeah. Oh, Edge. >> Edge. Edge. Thank you. Oh my god, I >> Edge. Edge. Thank you. Oh my god, I >> Edge. Edge. Thank you. Oh my god, I offended everyone at Samsung now. Uh the offended everyone at Samsung now. Uh the offended everyone at Samsung now. Uh the Edge and that design was probably a Edge and that design was probably a Edge and that design was probably a precursor to in terms of engineering precursor to in terms of engineering precursor to in terms of engineering what they did with the um the what they did with the um the what they did with the um the >> Yeah, Zold 7. >> Yeah, Zold 7. >> Yeah, Zold 7. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so that could that would probably >> And so that could that would probably >> And so that could that would probably make a lot of sense. Um, and I think make a lot of sense. Um, and I think make a lot of sense. Um, and I think definitely Apple needs to do a better definitely Apple needs to do a better definitely Apple needs to do a better job with the thermal aspects of their job with the thermal aspects of their job with the thermal aspects of their design design design >> because iPhones tend to heat up a bit. >> because iPhones tend to heat up a bit. >> because iPhones tend to heat up a bit. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> I'm like freaking surprised. This thing >> I'm like freaking surprised. This thing >> I'm like freaking surprised. This thing does not heat up, man. does not heat up, man. does not heat up, man. >> You know, you know me, right? I'm like >> You know, you know me, right? I'm like >> You know, you know me, right? I'm like I'm I'm pretty keen on Apple's I'm I'm pretty keen on Apple's I'm I'm pretty keen on Apple's engineering, but man, this thing does engineering, but man, this thing does engineering, but man, this thing does not heat up. You can watch videos for not heat up. You can watch videos for not heat up. You can watch videos for hours, browse like LinkedIn, which is hours, browse like LinkedIn, which is hours, browse like LinkedIn, which is now becoming an incredibly inefficient now becoming an incredibly inefficient now becoming an incredibly inefficient application. application. application. >> Piece of crap app that like drains your >> Piece of crap app that like drains your >> Piece of crap app that like drains your battery for for like uh an hour and a battery for for like uh an hour and a battery for for like uh an hour and a half and it it doesn't half and it it doesn't half and it it doesn't >> I mean it's like room temperature.

>> I mean it's like room temperature. >> I mean it's like room temperature. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> It actually blows my mind. >> It actually blows my mind. >> It actually blows my mind. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And I have to be freaking straight up >> And I have to be freaking straight up >> And I have to be freaking straight up that that that's what I'm saying. that that that's what I'm saying. that that that's what I'm saying. They're like the thermals on this thing. They're like the thermals on this thing. They're like the thermals on this thing. >> Yeah. freaking amazing. Yeah. And I >> Yeah. freaking amazing. Yeah. And I >> Yeah. freaking amazing. Yeah. And I think that's one of the things that think that's one of the things that think that's one of the things that people are going to really notice in people are going to really notice in people are going to really notice in prolonged use. Your device is not going prolonged use. Your device is not going prolonged use. Your device is not going to feel uncomfortable because of the to feel uncomfortable because of the to feel uncomfortable because of the heat, heat, heat, >> right? That's good. >> right? That's good. >> right? That's good. >> Wherever. So, I don't know. I Hey, >> Wherever. So, I don't know. I Hey, >> Wherever. So, I don't know. I Hey, that's what I'm saying. that's what I'm saying. that's what I'm saying. >> Humid environment. >> Humid environment. >> Humid environment. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> My iPhone was heating up right now. >> My iPhone was heating up right now. >> My iPhone was heating up right now. >> Right. But I think this is good. You >> Right. But I think this is good. You >> Right. But I think this is good. You know, you need a strong competitor to know, you need a strong competitor to know, you need a strong competitor to keep uh Apple's feet to the fire. keep uh Apple's feet to the fire. keep uh Apple's feet to the fire. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> You know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, >> You know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, >> You know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, competition is always great, right? So, competition is always great, right? So, competition is always great, right? So, >> yeah, we saw different times in >> yeah, we saw different times in >> yeah, we saw different times in Microsoft's history when we didn't have Microsoft's history when we didn't have Microsoft's history when we didn't have competition for anything and we got competition for anything and we got competition for anything and we got complacent and we didn't do anything too complacent and we didn't do anything too complacent and we didn't do anything too good and Windows Media Player good and Windows Media Player good and Windows Media Player >> out. >> out. >> out. So, yeah. But hey, um what what what's So, yeah. But hey, um what what what's So, yeah. But hey, um what what what's been going on? I've been out for four been going on? I've been out for four been going on? I've been out for four days, five days.

days, five days. days, five days. >> Wow. And I get back and I just figure to >> Wow. And I get back and I just figure to >> Wow. And I get back and I just figure to see some of the craziest headlines I've see some of the craziest headlines I've see some of the craziest headlines I've ever I mean it's like what universe are ever I mean it's like what universe are ever I mean it's like what universe are we looking at? we looking at? we looking at? >> The tariff wave is hit apparently. I >> The tariff wave is hit apparently. I >> The tariff wave is hit apparently. I mean mean mean >> oh that's underway right? >> oh that's underway right? >> oh that's underway right? >> Yeah it's underway. There's like and >> Yeah it's underway. There's like and >> Yeah it's underway. There's like and it's like stacking tariffs on top of it's like stacking tariffs on top of it's like stacking tariffs on top of tariffs. I mean it's like now Japan is tariffs. I mean it's like now Japan is tariffs. I mean it's like now Japan is saying well the deal that was done you saying well the deal that was done you saying well the deal that was done you know now you're stacking there was a know now you're stacking there was a know now you're stacking there was a misunderstanding and so now it's like misunderstanding and so now it's like misunderstanding and so now it's like the tariff is stacking on top of another the tariff is stacking on top of another the tariff is stacking on top of another tariff and there so because there's tariff and there so because there's tariff and there so because there's nothing written down I guess for what nothing written down I guess for what nothing written down I guess for what was was was >> it just a handshake or something >> it just a handshake or something >> it just a handshake or something >> then of course the whole issue with >> then of course the whole issue with >> then of course the whole issue with intel intel intel >> you saw the the headlines with Lee >> you saw the the headlines with Lee >> you saw the the headlines with Lee Bhutan and Bhutan and Bhutan and >> wow >> wow >> wow >> yes yes that's that's a shocking >> yes yes that's that's a shocking >> yes yes that's that's a shocking headline Trump saying that Libertan headline Trump saying that Libertan headline Trump saying that Libertan needs to resign immediately. needs to resign immediately. needs to resign immediately. >> Crazy. >> Crazy. >> Crazy. >> Yeah, that kind of reminds me of um a >> Yeah, that kind of reminds me of um a >> Yeah, that kind of reminds me of um a little bit of we need to cancel that uh little bit of we need to cancel that uh little bit of we need to cancel that uh Broadcom acquisition of Qu Broadcom acquisition of Qu Broadcom acquisition of Qu because of this dude named Pacan, because of this dude named Pacan, because of this dude named Pacan, >> you know, and uh you know, >> you know, and uh you know, >> you know, and uh you know, >> that was shocking and obviously Chinese >> that was shocking and obviously Chinese >> that was shocking and obviously Chinese national. So national. So national. So >> yeah, it was shocking and obviously it >> yeah, it was shocking and obviously it >> yeah, it was shocking and obviously it it sent an already depressed Intel stock it sent an already depressed Intel stock it sent an already depressed Intel stock even lower. No surprise there. Now, I even lower. No surprise there. Now, I even lower. No surprise there. Now, I was watching business news this morning was watching business news this morning was watching business news this morning and there was a little blurb that says and there was a little blurb that says and there was a little blurb that says TA his press company Cadence just got TA his press company Cadence just got TA his press company Cadence just got massive fines cuz it found out that they massive fines cuz it found out that they massive fines cuz it found out that they were violating export uh regulations and

were violating export uh regulations and were violating export uh regulations and sending illegal stuff to China and to sending illegal stuff to China and to sending illegal stuff to China and to Chinese defense. And so maybe Chinese defense. And so maybe Chinese defense. And so maybe >> they they sold it to a Chinese >> they they sold it to a Chinese >> they they sold it to a Chinese university university university and that the university was working with and that the university was working with and that the university was working with the defense department. That's all been the defense department. That's all been the defense department. That's all been very public information. Like that's very public information. Like that's very public information. Like that's that's all been out in the open and that that's all been out in the open and that that's all been out in the open and that >> that whole issue has been litigated and >> that whole issue has been litigated and >> that whole issue has been litigated and resolved. resolved. resolved. >> Yeah. I just heard something this >> Yeah. I just heard something this >> Yeah. I just heard something this morning. They acted like, well, we just morning. They acted like, well, we just morning. They acted like, well, we just found out that they violated control. found out that they violated control. found out that they violated control. They did that. They did that. They did that. >> Well, they found out, but yeah, >> Well, they found out, but yeah, >> Well, they found out, but yeah, >> it's been in the public sphere for a >> it's been in the public sphere for a >> it's been in the public sphere for a long time. that's been resolved and long time. that's been resolved and long time. that's been resolved and litigated. And frankly, you know, litigated. And frankly, you know, litigated. And frankly, you know, someone buying a license of and paid in someone buying a license of and paid in someone buying a license of and paid in the software at a university, the software at a university, the software at a university, >> it's not too surprising. And if that >> it's not too surprising. And if that >> it's not too surprising. And if that some other parts of that university are some other parts of that university are some other parts of that university are working with the defense department, working with the defense department, working with the defense department, also not surprising. So, I guess I don't also not surprising. So, I guess I don't also not surprising. So, I guess I don't really see anything shocking there. But really see anything shocking there. But really see anything shocking there. But it's all existing stuff. And the guy's a it's all existing stuff. And the guy's a it's all existing stuff. And the guy's a US citizen. He's lived here for 40 US citizen. He's lived here for 40 US citizen. He's lived here for 40 years. And years. And years. And >> you know, I think to be sort of dragged >> you know, I think to be sort of dragged >> you know, I think to be sort of dragged through the the mud, that's really through the the mud, that's really through the the mud, that's really unfair. But unfair. But unfair. But >> maybe the actual goal is to to depress >> maybe the actual goal is to to depress >> maybe the actual goal is to to depress the price so that people can load up the price so that people can load up the price so that people can load up stock at a lower valuation, you know.

stock at a lower valuation, you know. stock at a lower valuation, you know. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> It's all about gaming the stock market, >> It's all about gaming the stock market, >> It's all about gaming the stock market, baby. baby. baby. >> That now it is tariff. It's >> That now it is tariff. It's >> That now it is tariff. It's >> just uh decoding all the tariffs. It's >> just uh decoding all the tariffs. It's >> just uh decoding all the tariffs. It's going to be I think I saw some some data going to be I think I saw some some data going to be I think I saw some some data around the the estimate is about $2,400 around the the estimate is about $2,400 around the the estimate is about $2,400 per household uh increased cost. per household uh increased cost. per household uh increased cost. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> On all this stuff. So, if you haven't >> On all this stuff. So, if you haven't >> On all this stuff. So, if you haven't bought your refrigerator or your Toyota bought your refrigerator or your Toyota bought your refrigerator or your Toyota or whatever, I guess it's too late. or whatever, I guess it's too late. or whatever, I guess it's too late. >> Oh, jeez. >> Oh, jeez. >> Oh, jeez. >> I just got my air conditioner yesterday >> I just got my air conditioner yesterday >> I just got my air conditioner yesterday from Amazon, by the way. from Amazon, by the way. from Amazon, by the way. >> All right. Right under the wire, >> All right. Right under the wire, >> All right. Right under the wire, >> huh? the the repair parts for for >> huh? the the repair parts for for >> huh? the the repair parts for for importer cars are through the roof. importer cars are through the roof. importer cars are through the roof. >> H >> H >> H >> yeah, that's a good point. >> yeah, that's a good point. >> yeah, that's a good point. >> You're right. People forget about the >> You're right. People forget about the >> You're right. People forget about the individual parts when they need to do a individual parts when they need to do a individual parts when they need to do a repair to their car and they're you're repair to their car and they're you're repair to their car and they're you're right. They're going to get dinged for right. They're going to get dinged for right. They're going to get dinged for that, Debbie. That's a good point. that, Debbie. That's a good point. that, Debbie. That's a good point. >> Compressor for your air conditioner, for >> Compressor for your air conditioner, for >> Compressor for your air conditioner, for your VW, forget about it. your VW, forget about it. your VW, forget about it. >> For everything. Yeah. >> For everything. Yeah. >> For everything. Yeah. >> Yeah. I I don't think um >> Yeah. I I don't think um >> Yeah. I I don't think um >> repair a repair that you typically get >> repair a repair that you typically get >> repair a repair that you typically get costs maybe almost 40% more.

costs maybe almost 40% more. costs maybe almost 40% more. >> Oh my gosh, that's a great point. It's >> Oh my gosh, that's a great point. It's >> Oh my gosh, that's a great point. It's going to hit everybody that drives going to hit everybody that drives going to hit everybody that drives Corollas. Corollas. Corollas. >> Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm telling you, >> Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm telling you, >> Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm telling you, becoming a plumber. And becoming a plumber. And becoming a plumber. And >> how does that affect How does that >> how does that affect How does that >> how does that affect How does that affect people who drive really really affect people who drive really really affect people who drive really really really old Volvos, though? I'm really old Volvos, though? I'm really old Volvos, though? I'm wondering. wondering. wondering. >> We're in good shape. We're in good >> We're in good shape. We're in good >> We're in good shape. We're in good shape. shape. shape. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> there's a good aftermarket. You just go >> there's a good aftermarket. You just go >> there's a good aftermarket. You just go to the flea market and you can pick up a to the flea market and you can pick up a to the flea market and you can pick up a cam and some other stuff and cam and some other stuff and cam and some other stuff and >> Okay, that's good to hear. >> Okay, that's good to hear. >> Okay, that's good to hear. >> Actually, I bought my transmission for >> Actually, I bought my transmission for >> Actually, I bought my transmission for my 72 Volvo from a guy in Vancouver. my 72 Volvo from a guy in Vancouver. my 72 Volvo from a guy in Vancouver. >> It was in his garage. He was advertising >> It was in his garage. He was advertising >> It was in his garage. He was advertising it. So, I drove up there, took a look at it. So, I drove up there, took a look at it. So, I drove up there, took a look at it, and uh and just put it on my car and it, and uh and just put it on my car and it, and uh and just put it on my car and drove it back. drove it back. drove it back. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> All good. So, yes, old. That's that's be >> All good. So, yes, old. That's that's be >> All good. So, yes, old. That's that's be the new thing. People are going to have the new thing. People are going to have the new thing. People are going to have to now keep their cars for like 50 to now keep their cars for like 50 to now keep their cars for like 50 years. years. years. >> Wait a second. Is is America going to >> Wait a second. Is is America going to >> Wait a second. Is is America going to become like Cuba and be driving old cars become like Cuba and be driving old cars become like Cuba and be driving old cars from the 50? from the 50? from the 50? >> That's right. Everyone's going to drive >> That's right. Everyone's going to drive >> That's right. Everyone's going to drive old Chevys. old Chevys. old Chevys. >> Yeah. In In other words, we're >> Yeah. In In other words, we're >> Yeah. In In other words, we're sanctioning ourselves in a way.

sanctioning ourselves in a way. sanctioning ourselves in a way. >> Wow. There's the headline. At least at >> Wow. There's the headline. At least at >> Wow. There's the headline. At least at least the government is making money, least the government is making money, least the government is making money, right? right? right? >> Everyone who bought a Chevy Malibu is a >> Everyone who bought a Chevy Malibu is a >> Everyone who bought a Chevy Malibu is a visionary. visionary. visionary. Well, you know, I mean, in a way, it's Well, you know, I mean, in a way, it's Well, you know, I mean, in a way, it's kind of it's sort of putting a argonomic kind of it's sort of putting a argonomic kind of it's sort of putting a argonomic uh instinction on yourself, right? In uh instinction on yourself, right? In uh instinction on yourself, right? In the fact you make things so expensive, the fact you make things so expensive, the fact you make things so expensive, right? right? right? >> Yeah. It's ridiculous. I mean, I think a >> Yeah. It's ridiculous. I mean, I think a >> Yeah. It's ridiculous. I mean, I think a lot of people don't realize much of how lot of people don't realize much of how lot of people don't realize much of how much of the things we use every day are much of the things we use every day are much of the things we use every day are imported. imported. imported. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, also there's a what's the tariff >> Well, also there's a what's the tariff >> Well, also there's a what's the tariff on imported semiconductors now as it's on imported semiconductors now as it's on imported semiconductors now as it's >> 100%. I saw >> 100%. I saw >> 100%. I saw >> 100%. So you're building gateways, >> 100%. So you're building gateways, >> 100%. So you're building gateways, you're building doorbells, you're you're building doorbells, you're you're building doorbells, you're building, you know, sprinkler system, building, you know, sprinkler system, building, you know, sprinkler system, anything that has a chip now, which is anything that has a chip now, which is anything that has a chip now, which is almost everything. almost everything. almost everything. >> Oh, you know what? All I got to say is >> Oh, you know what? All I got to say is >> Oh, you know what? All I got to say is the IoT never gets a break.

the IoT never gets a break. the IoT never gets a break. >> Right, Rob? >> Right, Rob? >> Right, Rob? >> You're right. >> You're right. >> You're right. The IoT never gets a break. The IoT never gets a break. The IoT never gets a break. >> No breaks for us. >> No breaks for us. >> No breaks for us. >> Oh my god. My god. >> Oh my god. My god. >> Oh my god. My god. Oh. Well, hey guys, I got to jump, but Oh. Well, hey guys, I got to jump, but Oh. Well, hey guys, I got to jump, but hopefully um Debbie, you can share some hopefully um Debbie, you can share some hopefully um Debbie, you can share some insights from what you're seeing um on insights from what you're seeing um on insights from what you're seeing um on the security and restaurant. I'm sure the security and restaurant. I'm sure the security and restaurant. I'm sure there's all kinds of crazy stuff there's all kinds of crazy stuff there's all kinds of crazy stuff happening there, but and yeah, and have happening there, but and yeah, and have happening there, but and yeah, and have fun for the rest of the episode. fun for the rest of the episode. fun for the rest of the episode. >> All right. Turkey leg. >> All right. Turkey leg. >> All right. Turkey leg. >> Yeah. All right. See you guys. >> Yeah. All right. See you guys. >> Yeah. All right. See you guys. >> Have fun. Awesome. >> Have fun. Awesome. >> Have fun. Awesome. You You You >> have Dole Whip down there? >> have Dole Whip down there? >> have Dole Whip down there? >> What's that? >> What's that? >> What's that? >> Dole Whip. Remember Dole Whip? >> Dole Whip. Remember Dole Whip? >> Dole Whip. Remember Dole Whip? >> I do. That's blast from the past. Yeah, >> I do. That's blast from the past. Yeah, >> I do. That's blast from the past. Yeah, >> it's uh they serve that at the uh what >> it's uh they serve that at the uh what >> it's uh they serve that at the uh what what's the town there? Like Frontier what's the town there? Like Frontier what's the town there? Like Frontier Town or Town or Town or >> Frontier Town? Okay. >> Frontier Town? Okay. >> Frontier Town? Okay. >> No, the tiki the tiki room. Maybe this >> No, the tiki the tiki room. Maybe this >> No, the tiki the tiki room. Maybe this is Disneyland. Disneyland has the dull is Disneyland. Disneyland has the dull is Disneyland. Disneyland has the dull whip in room, whip in room, whip in room, >> right? >> right? >> right? I don't know if they do that in Disney I don't know if they do that in Disney I don't know if they do that in Disney World, but World, but World, but >> I haven't been to Disney World as many >> I haven't been to Disney World as many >> I haven't been to Disney World as many times as Disneyland.

times as Disneyland. times as Disneyland. Oh, Oh, Oh, >> you know, funny story. I went there once >> you know, funny story. I went there once >> you know, funny story. I went there once at when I was at Microsoft. I first at when I was at Microsoft. I first at when I was at Microsoft. I first joined Microsoft, they were renewing joined Microsoft, they were renewing joined Microsoft, they were renewing their enterprise agreement. And so, as their enterprise agreement. And so, as their enterprise agreement. And so, as part of the spiel, they convened a bunch part of the spiel, they convened a bunch part of the spiel, they convened a bunch of us from different divisions to go of us from different divisions to go of us from different divisions to go down there and brainstorm with Disney down there and brainstorm with Disney down there and brainstorm with Disney for a day or two on like projects. for a day or two on like projects. for a day or two on like projects. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> And it was a bit of a junkit. So they >> And it was a bit of a junkit. So they >> And it was a bit of a junkit. So they gave us a tour of the of the park and gave us a tour of the of the park and gave us a tour of the of the park and all and we stayed in some one of those all and we stayed in some one of those all and we stayed in some one of those jungle hotel things, whatever it is, jungle hotel things, whatever it is, jungle hotel things, whatever it is, jungle themed hotel. So that was the jungle themed hotel. So that was the jungle themed hotel. So that was the only time I think I went to Disney only time I think I went to Disney only time I think I went to Disney World. But um World. But um World. But um >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> Yeah. Pretty huge operation down there. >> Yeah. Pretty huge operation down there. >> Yeah. Pretty huge operation down there. It sounds like It sounds like It sounds like >> sounds like Leonard's going to leave >> sounds like Leonard's going to leave >> sounds like Leonard's going to leave there with his credit card all shredded there with his credit card all shredded there with his credit card all shredded up from all the uh charges. up from all the uh charges. up from all the uh charges. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Well, speaking of I speaking of IoT, I >> Well, speaking of I speaking of IoT, I >> Well, speaking of I speaking of IoT, I think um Disney is probably one of the think um Disney is probably one of the think um Disney is probably one of the the the theme parks. the the theme parks. the the theme parks. They are very sophisticated in terms of They are very sophisticated in terms of They are very sophisticated in terms of how they how they how they uh implement all this stuff. So, uh implement all this stuff. So, uh implement all this stuff. So, basically once you're in the park, they basically once you're in the park, they basically once you're in the park, they know exactly who you are and where you know exactly who you are and where you know exactly who you are and where you are. So you can walk into any, you know, are. So you can walk into any, you know, are. So you can walk into any, you know, restaurant or venue and people, you restaurant or venue and people, you restaurant or venue and people, you know, uh, know you by name and all this know, uh, know you by name and all this know, uh, know you by name and all this stuff and they track everything. So, um, stuff and they track everything. So, um, stuff and they track everything. So, um, yeah, I have a friend that goes down yeah, I have a friend that goes down yeah, I have a friend that goes down there every year. He loves it, you know.

there every year. He loves it, you know. there every year. He loves it, you know. I find that somewhat creepy, but at I find that somewhat creepy, but at I find that somewhat creepy, but at least they're making it to the advantage least they're making it to the advantage least they're making it to the advantage that people really like that. But yeah. that people really like that. But yeah. that people really like that. But yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, they got a lot of it going >> Yeah. I mean, they got a lot of it going >> Yeah. I mean, they got a lot of it going on there. A lot of sophisticated on there. A lot of sophisticated on there. A lot of sophisticated >> and uh, they'll know if Leonard has that >> and uh, they'll know if Leonard has that >> and uh, they'll know if Leonard has that turkey leg or not when he walks into the turkey leg or not when he walks into the turkey leg or not when he walks into the restaurant. restaurant. restaurant. >> That's right. That's right. Yeah, >> That's right. That's right. Yeah, >> That's right. That's right. Yeah, another Turkey legisl. >> No, you're right. Disney has always been >> No, you're right. Disney has always been advanced. You're right. They're the advanced. You're right. They're the advanced. You're right. They're the first ones. They had that band at Disney first ones. They had that band at Disney first ones. They had that band at Disney World. World. World. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> I mean, they were doing sophisticated >> I mean, they were doing sophisticated >> I mean, they were doing sophisticated IoT stuff way back when. IoT stuff way back when. IoT stuff way back when. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh my personal IoT experience with >> Uh my personal IoT experience with >> Uh my personal IoT experience with Disney World is when I was in Hit It Disney World is when I was in Hit It Disney World is when I was in Hit It doing our Lumatada industrial IoT thing, doing our Lumatada industrial IoT thing, doing our Lumatada industrial IoT thing, >> we had a version of it um where it came >> we had a version of it um where it came >> we had a version of it um where it came with the hardware. Um and so you know we with the hardware. Um and so you know we with the hardware. Um and so you know we we talk about different kinds of edge we talk about different kinds of edge we talk about different kinds of edge computing or who knows what it is but computing or who knows what it is but computing or who knows what it is but anyway there was Lumata hardware and anyway there was Lumata hardware and anyway there was Lumata hardware and this is because Hitachi made that this is because Hitachi made that this is because Hitachi made that hypercon converge kind of hardware stack hypercon converge kind of hardware stack hypercon converge kind of hardware stack thing with tons of storage and RAM and thing with tons of storage and RAM and thing with tons of storage and RAM and all that stuff and so we had a version all that stuff and so we had a version all that stuff and so we had a version of Lumata where a company could buy a of Lumata where a company could buy a of Lumata where a company could buy a whole normalsiz rack um and literally whole normalsiz rack um and literally whole normalsiz rack um and literally roll it onto the factory floor or roll it onto the factory floor or roll it onto the factory floor or whatever and turn it on and magic's whatever and turn it on and magic's whatever and turn it on and magic's already happening like it wasn't a big already happening like it wasn't a big already happening like it wasn't a big software install. all on your own gear software install. all on your own gear software install. all on your own gear or anything. And so one of our very or anything. And so one of our very or anything. And so one of our very first customers was Disney and they first customers was Disney and they first customers was Disney and they bought it to uh they had just were bought it to uh they had just were bought it to uh they had just were building their Toy Story ride at Disney building their Toy Story ride at Disney building their Toy Story ride at Disney World. Um and they wanted to monitor it World. Um and they wanted to monitor it World. Um and they wanted to monitor it and see what's going on and find and see what's going on and find and see what's going on and find problems and all that kind of stuff. And

problems and all that kind of stuff. And problems and all that kind of stuff. And ironically, ironically, ironically, we were competing against all my buddies we were competing against all my buddies we were competing against all my buddies at the Azure IoT team at the Azure IoT team at the Azure IoT team and they were there and we were there and they were there and we were there and they were there and we were there and we kicked their ass and aside it's and we kicked their ass and aside it's and we kicked their ass and aside it's because we had an end toend solution. It because we had an end toend solution. It because we had an end toend solution. It all ran on a rack and Disney's like, all ran on a rack and Disney's like, all ran on a rack and Disney's like, "Yeah, I want the whole rack and I want "Yeah, I want the whole rack and I want "Yeah, I want the whole rack and I want to roll it right onto our property." to roll it right onto our property." to roll it right onto our property." >> Yeah. Microsoft's never been able to >> Yeah. Microsoft's never been able to >> Yeah. Microsoft's never been able to do that. do that. do that. >> Right. And and so that's what they >> Right. And and so that's what they >> Right. And and so that's what they wanted. So, it met that use case and it wanted. So, it met that use case and it wanted. So, it met that use case and it wasn't a here's a cloud thing and we wasn't a here's a cloud thing and we wasn't a here's a cloud thing and we don't do hardware and all that stuff. don't do hardware and all that stuff. don't do hardware and all that stuff. Disney's like, "Yeah, I need the whole Disney's like, "Yeah, I need the whole Disney's like, "Yeah, I need the whole thing just turnkey, right?" thing just turnkey, right?" thing just turnkey, right?" >> Um, that's the thing. >> Um, that's the thing. >> Um, that's the thing. >> It was the thing. And so, that helped us >> It was the thing. And so, that helped us >> It was the thing. And so, that helped us win that deal. So, that was pretty cool win that deal. So, that was pretty cool win that deal. So, that was pretty cool getting telemetry. getting telemetry. getting telemetry. >> Uh, to Debbie's point, this whole >> Uh, to Debbie's point, this whole >> Uh, to Debbie's point, this whole category of hospitality is a huge kind category of hospitality is a huge kind category of hospitality is a huge kind of IoT edge computing space. I mean, you of IoT edge computing space. I mean, you of IoT edge computing space. I mean, you think about hotels and the check-in think about hotels and the check-in think about hotels and the check-in process and, you know, we all have our process and, you know, we all have our process and, you know, we all have our sort of stories about where it's working sort of stories about where it's working sort of stories about where it's working and not working. Some people kind of go and not working. Some people kind of go and not working. Some people kind of go a little too far with it, but um yeah, a little too far with it, but um yeah, a little too far with it, but um yeah, the whole hospitality space of which I the whole hospitality space of which I the whole hospitality space of which I would say Disney is Disney parks for would say Disney is Disney parks for would say Disney is Disney parks for sure is part of that. There's a whole sure is part of that. There's a whole sure is part of that. There's a whole there's probably some a trade show there's probably some a trade show there's probably some a trade show somewhere about hospitality tech 2020 or somewhere about hospitality tech 2020 or somewhere about hospitality tech 2020 or something.

something. something. >> Absolutely. Yeah, there's um uh I can't >> Absolutely. Yeah, there's um uh I can't >> Absolutely. Yeah, there's um uh I can't remember the name of the company, but uh remember the name of the company, but uh remember the name of the company, but uh uh there's a organization that does uh uh there's a organization that does uh uh there's a organization that does uh stuff around biometrics. And so they stuff around biometrics. And so they stuff around biometrics. And so they have whole shows about hospitality and have whole shows about hospitality and have whole shows about hospitality and stadiums. You know, stadiums, that's a stadiums. You know, stadiums, that's a stadiums. You know, stadiums, that's a new hot thing where they're following new hot thing where they're following new hot thing where they're following you around. You can, you know, buy a you around. You can, you know, buy a you around. You can, you know, buy a beer with your your eyeball, something beer with your your eyeball, something beer with your your eyeball, something like that. like that. like that. >> With your eyeball. >> With your eyeball. >> With your eyeball. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. like scan or you know thumb prints >> Yeah. like scan or you know thumb prints >> Yeah. like scan or you know thumb prints and all. So it's you know and all. So it's you know and all. So it's you know >> the stadiums are very sophisticated in >> the stadiums are very sophisticated in >> the stadiums are very sophisticated in this whole thing. this whole thing. this whole thing. >> Pretty interesting. >> Pretty interesting. >> Pretty interesting. >> That's cool. Speaking of stadiums, I >> That's cool. Speaking of stadiums, I >> That's cool. Speaking of stadiums, I went to the Seahawks game last night at went to the Seahawks game last night at went to the Seahawks game last night at Lumen Field in Seattle. We were playing Lumen Field in Seattle. We were playing Lumen Field in Seattle. We were playing the Las Vegas Raiders. Always the Las Vegas Raiders. Always the Las Vegas Raiders. Always interesting to see for the first time interesting to see for the first time interesting to see for the first time Pete Carol on the other sideline from Pete Carol on the other sideline from Pete Carol on the other sideline from us. But I got a great picture of us. But I got a great picture of us. But I got a great picture of >> Marshawn Lynch. Wow.

>> Marshawn Lynch. Wow. >> Marshawn Lynch. Wow. >> Was hilarious >> Was hilarious >> Was hilarious >> there on the sidelines on the the >> there on the sidelines on the the >> there on the sidelines on the the Raiders sidelines taking pictures. He Raiders sidelines taking pictures. He Raiders sidelines taking pictures. He had one of those big long range cameras, had one of those big long range cameras, had one of those big long range cameras, you know, like you see at football you know, like you see at football you know, like you see at football games. And games. And games. And >> it was it was awesome to see Beast Mode. >> it was it was awesome to see Beast Mode. >> it was it was awesome to see Beast Mode. >> Yeah. Everybody he's a kind of I would >> Yeah. Everybody he's a kind of I would >> Yeah. Everybody he's a kind of I would say Marshon's a national treasure say Marshon's a national treasure say Marshon's a national treasure actually. actually. actually. >> He is a national that Raider Stadium by >> He is a national that Raider Stadium by >> He is a national that Raider Stadium by the way in Vegas is pretty impressive in the way in Vegas is pretty impressive in the way in Vegas is pretty impressive in terms of new tech. It's probably one of terms of new tech. It's probably one of terms of new tech. It's probably one of the most tech enabled the most tech enabled the most tech enabled venues. I guess I guess the Levis's one venues. I guess I guess the Levis's one venues. I guess I guess the Levis's one in Santa Clara too is pretty good. in Santa Clara too is pretty good. in Santa Clara too is pretty good. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. No, hospitality entertain these >> Yeah. No, hospitality entertain these >> Yeah. No, hospitality entertain these entertainment venues very sophisticated entertainment venues very sophisticated entertainment venues very sophisticated on uh you know um ID and you know bands on uh you know um ID and you know bands on uh you know um ID and you know bands and you know purchasing beverages and and you know purchasing beverages and and you know purchasing beverages and all the other stuff they're trying to all the other stuff they're trying to all the other stuff they're trying to optimize for. So optimize for. So optimize for. So yeah, we're doing in the Edgi Foundation yeah, we're doing in the Edgi Foundation yeah, we're doing in the Edgi Foundation we're doing a lot of industry we're doing a lot of industry we're doing a lot of industry engagement. How do you bring the voice engagement. How do you bring the voice engagement. How do you bring the voice of the industry into the community? of the industry into the community? of the industry into the community? Because we're we're a bunch of like tech Because we're we're a bunch of like tech Because we're we're a bunch of like tech makers, a lot of us, you know? So, it's makers, a lot of us, you know? So, it's makers, a lot of us, you know? So, it's like, like, like, >> how do you bring in hospitality and >> how do you bring in hospitality and >> how do you bring in hospitality and entertainment and retail and have them entertainment and retail and have them entertainment and retail and have them and understand what the problems are and understand what the problems are and understand what the problems are that they're having? Like you said, like that they're having? Like you said, like that they're having? Like you said, like Disney's like, "Hey, I need this whole Disney's like, "Hey, I need this whole Disney's like, "Hey, I need this whole thing on a rack and I need it, thing on a rack and I need it, thing on a rack and I need it, >> you know." So, hearing those uh stories >> you know." So, hearing those uh stories >> you know." So, hearing those uh stories is really important, especially for is really important, especially for is really important, especially for people that are making tech out there to people that are making tech out there to people that are making tech out there to make sure you get sometimes they call make sure you get sometimes they call make sure you get sometimes they call that voice of the customer, voice of the that voice of the customer, voice of the that voice of the customer, voice of the industry.

industry. industry. >> Yes, voice of the customer is so >> Yes, voice of the customer is so >> Yes, voice of the customer is so critical. tell us what exactly your critical. tell us what exactly your critical. tell us what exactly your needs are, not what you need, but what needs are, not what you need, but what needs are, not what you need, but what your needs are and that's different. Um, your needs are and that's different. Um, your needs are and that's different. Um, and then that's very helpful in terms of and then that's very helpful in terms of and then that's very helpful in terms of uh building product because we all as uh building product because we all as uh building product because we all as tech makers we all fall in love with the tech makers we all fall in love with the tech makers we all fall in love with the products that we're building and we're products that we're building and we're products that we're building and we're convinced that it's the best thing ever convinced that it's the best thing ever convinced that it's the best thing ever >> of course >> of course >> of course >> till we actually encounter a customer >> till we actually encounter a customer >> till we actually encounter a customer and they're like uh what I don't need and they're like uh what I don't need and they're like uh what I don't need that that that >> and you know technically as we know it's >> and you know technically as we know it's >> and you know technically as we know it's the job of a product manager to really the job of a product manager to really the job of a product manager to really tap into that voice of a customer you tap into that voice of a customer you tap into that voice of a customer you know when you're designing pro you know know when you're designing pro you know know when you're designing pro you know you need to be plugged in so that you're you need to be plugged in so that you're you need to be plugged in so that you're not like so many stories we've heard of not like so many stories we've heard of not like so many stories we've heard of tech companies where they just go off uh tech companies where they just go off uh tech companies where they just go off uh into a cave somewhere and build what into a cave somewhere and build what into a cave somewhere and build what they think people want. Right. they think people want. Right. they think people want. Right. >> Here's a good book. I'll I'll put it up. >> Here's a good book. I'll I'll put it up. >> Here's a good book. I'll I'll put it up. It's called The Secret Lies of It's called The Secret Lies of It's called The Secret Lies of Customers. I would say any product Customers. I would say any product Customers. I would say any product managers listening. managers listening. managers listening. >> It's not a thick book. Easy read, >> It's not a thick book. Easy read, >> It's not a thick book. Easy read, >> but really good explanation of the jobs >> but really good explanation of the jobs >> but really good explanation of the jobs to be done approach. to be done approach. to be done approach. >> I love that if you're familiar with the >> I love that if you're familiar with the >> I love that if you're familiar with the JTB JTB JTB >> the uh approach Clay Christensen and >> the uh approach Clay Christensen and >> the uh approach Clay Christensen and stuff. So understanding customer needs stuff. So understanding customer needs stuff. So understanding customer needs >> uh which is again different than >> uh which is again different than >> uh which is again different than understanding what a customer says they understanding what a customer says they understanding what a customer says they need.

need. need. >> Understanding needs is a critical you're >> Understanding needs is a critical you're >> Understanding needs is a critical you're right product manager skill and uh right product manager skill and uh right product manager skill and uh >> you know absolutely that's uh that's a >> you know absolutely that's uh that's a >> you know absolutely that's uh that's a pretty cool thing. So yeah and the best pretty cool thing. So yeah and the best pretty cool thing. So yeah and the best way to do that obviously is to engage way to do that obviously is to engage way to do that obviously is to engage with customers. Uh but you know not just with customers. Uh but you know not just with customers. Uh but you know not just asking what they want but asking them asking what they want but asking them asking what they want but asking them why they want why they want to get why they want why they want to get why they want why they want to get certain things done. What do they need certain things done. What do they need certain things done. What do they need to get done? to get done? to get done? >> Yeah. and would they use it and would it >> Yeah. and would they use it and would it >> Yeah. and would they use it and would it be something that be attractive to them be something that be attractive to them be something that be attractive to them as opposed to something that they would, as opposed to something that they would, as opposed to something that they would, you know, not want or be like creeped you know, not want or be like creeped you know, not want or be like creeped out by? out by? out by? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Don't want to creep people out. That's >> Don't want to creep people out. That's >> Don't want to creep people out. That's for sure. for sure. for sure. >> People out. Yeah. >> People out. Yeah. >> People out. Yeah. >> That's interesting. You know, cuz how >> That's interesting. You know, cuz how >> That's interesting. You know, cuz how many times do we hear people who go, many times do we hear people who go, many times do we hear people who go, "Well, Steve Jobs says that customers "Well, Steve Jobs says that customers "Well, Steve Jobs says that customers don't know what they want and they'll don't know what they want and they'll don't know what they want and they'll know it when I give it to them." And know it when I give it to them." And know it when I give it to them." And that kind of arrogant view. a great that kind of arrogant view. a great that kind of arrogant view. a great excuse to to waste a bunch of money. excuse to to waste a bunch of money. excuse to to waste a bunch of money. >> That's Yeah, it is. You're right. But we >> That's Yeah, it is. You're right. But we >> That's Yeah, it is. You're right. But we see people all the time like, "No, we'll see people all the time like, "No, we'll see people all the time like, "No, we'll tell them what they want because we're tell them what they want because we're tell them what they want because we're following Steve Jobs, following Steve Jobs, following Steve Jobs, >> you know, and then they crash and burn >> you know, and then they crash and burn >> you know, and then they crash and burn and build something."

and build something." and build something." >> Well, there's that the anecdote, and >> Well, there's that the anecdote, and >> Well, there's that the anecdote, and it's not accurate, but there's the it's not accurate, but there's the it's not accurate, but there's the anecdote that says, "Well, if Henry Ford anecdote that says, "Well, if Henry Ford anecdote that says, "Well, if Henry Ford asked customers what they wanted, they asked customers what they wanted, they asked customers what they wanted, they would say faster horses." But, would say faster horses." But, would say faster horses." But, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> but actually that that that's the >> but actually that that that's the >> but actually that that that's the difference of asking people what they difference of asking people what they difference of asking people what they need as opposed to what their needs are. need as opposed to what their needs are. need as opposed to what their needs are. So if their needs are I need to go So if their needs are I need to go So if their needs are I need to go faster faster faster >> then it' be like okay oh you need to go >> then it' be like okay oh you need to go >> then it' be like okay oh you need to go faster. Okay well faster. Okay well faster. Okay well >> then maybe we do need to build like some >> then maybe we do need to build like some >> then maybe we do need to build like some kind of vehicle. So kind of vehicle. So kind of vehicle. So >> yeah there subtle difference but yes >> yeah there subtle difference but yes >> yeah there subtle difference but yes you're right people are like they use you're right people are like they use you're right people are like they use these excuses to uh these excuses to uh these excuses to uh >> and we we saw that in our years at >> and we we saw that in our years at >> and we we saw that in our years at Microsoft as well right. So Microsoft as well right. So Microsoft as well right. So >> right >> right >> right >> I have a friend of mine he used to say >> I have a friend of mine he used to say >> I have a friend of mine he used to say which is so true I believe he said which is so true I believe he said which is so true I believe he said people don't want technology they want people don't want technology they want people don't want technology they want stuff that works. stuff that works. stuff that works. >> So if you can get something that works >> So if you can get something that works >> So if you can get something that works that does that solves a problem for them that does that solves a problem for them that does that solves a problem for them or helps them some type of easy way then or helps them some type of easy way then or helps them some type of easy way then you know that's a that's a slam dunk you know that's a that's a slam dunk you know that's a that's a slam dunk right there. right there. right there. >> True. Although tech is cool though. It's >> True. Although tech is cool though. It's >> True. Although tech is cool though. It's funny. funny. funny. >> Yeah it is cool. >> Yeah it is cool. >> Yeah it is cool. >> It is cool. But tech for the sort, you >> It is cool. But tech for the sort, you >> It is cool. But tech for the sort, you know, I'm a I'm a I always say I'm a know, I'm a I'm a I always say I'm a know, I'm a I'm a I always say I'm a technologist, but I don't love technologist, but I don't love technologist, but I don't love everything that people try to do with everything that people try to do with everything that people try to do with tech, right? So, tech, right? So, tech, right? So, >> I'm like, "No, that's not a good idea."

>> I'm like, "No, that's not a good idea." >> I'm like, "No, that's not a good idea." Or, "Oh, this is a great idea." You Or, "Oh, this is a great idea." You Or, "Oh, this is a great idea." You know? So, know? So, know? So, >> every time you try to check into a hotel >> every time you try to check into a hotel >> every time you try to check into a hotel with your and unlock the door with your with your and unlock the door with your with your and unlock the door with your phone or some kind of weird thing and phone or some kind of weird thing and phone or some kind of weird thing and then it doesn't work then it doesn't work then it doesn't work >> and it doesn't work. >> and it doesn't work. >> and it doesn't work. >> You have all your luggage, you're like, >> You have all your luggage, you're like, >> You have all your luggage, you're like, "God damn it." You know, "God damn it." You know, "God damn it." You know, >> I got to go eat. >> I got to go eat. >> I got to go eat. >> That happened to me. >> That happened to me. >> That happened to me. >> Yes. I New York and uh something I can't >> Yes. I New York and uh something I can't >> Yes. I New York and uh something I can't remember. I don't know if I had to remember. I don't know if I had to remember. I don't know if I had to unlock with my phone. I don't remember. unlock with my phone. I don't remember. unlock with my phone. I don't remember. But I had to go I had to drag myself and But I had to go I had to drag myself and But I had to go I had to drag myself and my luggage down to the lobby a couple my luggage down to the lobby a couple my luggage down to the lobby a couple times just to try to get them to get the times just to try to get them to get the times just to try to get them to get the door fixed. So that was a pain. door fixed. So that was a pain. door fixed. So that was a pain. >> I'm like, "Hey, what happened the keys?" >> I'm like, "Hey, what happened the keys?" >> I'm like, "Hey, what happened the keys?" Well, my thing is Well, my thing is Well, my thing is >> my thing is you should have a backup >> my thing is you should have a backup >> my thing is you should have a backup plan. plan. plan. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I have that. >> I have that. >> I have that. >> Yes. You know, if only Microsoft had >> Yes. You know, if only Microsoft had >> Yes. You know, if only Microsoft had talked to customers said, you know, what talked to customers said, you know, what talked to customers said, you know, what do I really want? They'd say, I just do I really want? They'd say, I just do I really want? They'd say, I just want a laptop that doesn't blue screen want a laptop that doesn't blue screen want a laptop that doesn't blue screen on me. You know, can I get that? on me. You know, can I get that? on me. You know, can I get that? >> Actually, they did. They changed the >> Actually, they did. They changed the >> Actually, they did. They changed the screen now. It's not blue anymore. screen now. It's not blue anymore. screen now. It's not blue anymore. >> Oh, right. That fixed it. Fixed.

>> Oh, right. That fixed it. Fixed. >> Oh, right. That fixed it. Fixed. >> You said you don't want blue screen. So, >> You said you don't want blue screen. So, >> You said you don't want blue screen. So, we fixed it. we fixed it. we fixed it. >> We fixed it. It's not blue anymore. >> We fixed it. It's not blue anymore. >> We fixed it. It's not blue anymore. There you go. And now we got Bill coming There you go. And now we got Bill coming There you go. And now we got Bill coming in hot. in hot. in hot. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Look at that. >> Look at that. >> Look at that. >> With his Louisville slugger hat. always. >> With his Louisville slugger hat. always. >> With his Louisville slugger hat. always. >> That's right. And you know, today is FO >> That's right. And you know, today is FO >> That's right. And you know, today is FO Friday. Friday. Friday. >> Oh, I love that shirt. Wow. It's >> Oh, I love that shirt. Wow. It's >> Oh, I love that shirt. Wow. It's awesome. I think what Bill really does awesome. I think what Bill really does awesome. I think what Bill really does is he runs a t-shirt shop business is is he runs a t-shirt shop business is is he runs a t-shirt shop business is his, his, his, >> you know, that was my first that was >> you know, that was my first that was >> you know, that was my first that was actually my first company. actually my first company. actually my first company. >> No way. >> No way. >> No way. >> Yeah. Serious. >> Yeah. Serious. >> Yeah. Serious. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> Yeah. That was that was my first company >> Yeah. That was that was my first company >> Yeah. That was that was my first company and I learned I learned about factoring and I learned I learned about factoring and I learned I learned about factoring from from that. from from that. from from that. >> Really? Yeah. Taught me an an extremely >> Really? Yeah. Taught me an an extremely >> Really? Yeah. Taught me an an extremely valuable valuable valuable um concept around how you lose money. um concept around how you lose money. um concept around how you lose money. >> Okay. Wow. >> Okay. Wow. >> Okay. Wow. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> so >> so >> so >> yeah. Yeah. So that was that was my >> yeah. Yeah. So that was that was my >> yeah. Yeah. So that was that was my first company first company first company >> losing money.

>> losing money. >> losing money. >> Yeah. So that was was that a valuable >> Yeah. So that was was that a valuable >> Yeah. So that was was that a valuable experience for you business-wise and experience for you business-wise and experience for you business-wise and teaching you other things? teaching you other things? teaching you other things? >> 100%. It's it's why both my companies >> 100%. It's it's why both my companies >> 100%. It's it's why both my companies have no VCs and no bank lending and none have no VCs and no bank lending and none have no VCs and no bank lending and none of that. I mean, you know, it it's is it of that. I mean, you know, it it's is it of that. I mean, you know, it it's is it >> I'm with you. I'm with you, brother. >> I'm with you. I'm with you, brother. >> I'm with you. I'm with you, brother. I'm with you. I'm with you%. I'm with you. I'm with you%. I'm with you. I'm with you%. >> So, you know, it it's it it I mean, the >> So, you know, it it's it it I mean, the >> So, you know, it it's it it I mean, the deal was I had gotten a deal with Foot deal was I had gotten a deal with Foot deal was I had gotten a deal with Foot Locker. Locker. Locker. >> Okay. you know, to buy a a whole series >> Okay. you know, to buy a a whole series >> Okay. you know, to buy a a whole series of basketball oriented shirts and we had of basketball oriented shirts and we had of basketball oriented shirts and we had a bunch of catchy phrases and everything a bunch of catchy phrases and everything a bunch of catchy phrases and everything on it. on it. on it. >> Uh, it was during around the time that >> Uh, it was during around the time that >> Uh, it was during around the time that and won and the whole, you know, street and won and the whole, you know, street and won and the whole, you know, street ball series was around and everything ball series was around and everything ball series was around and everything like that like that like that >> and we were good until that PO came in >> and we were good until that PO came in >> and we were good until that PO came in and I was like, I don't have enough and I was like, I don't have enough and I was like, I don't have enough funds to cover this, funds to cover this, funds to cover this, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And they weren't giving any cash >> And they weren't giving any cash >> And they weren't giving any cash upfront.

upfront. upfront. And so I went to the bank and the bank And so I went to the bank and the bank And so I went to the bank and the bank was like, "Okay, well, you don't have was like, "Okay, well, you don't have was like, "Okay, well, you don't have enough assets for us to give you this." enough assets for us to give you this." enough assets for us to give you this." And I was like, you know, how about, you And I was like, you know, how about, you And I was like, you know, how about, you know, I'm like, would you guys consider know, I'm like, would you guys consider know, I'm like, would you guys consider factoring? And the percentages factoring? And the percentages factoring? And the percentages associated with the factoring and we did associated with the factoring and we did associated with the factoring and we did not have enough guarantee that the not have enough guarantee that the not have enough guarantee that the products were going to fly off the products were going to fly off the products were going to fly off the shelves. shelves. shelves. Whole deal fell apart. I wound up being Whole deal fell apart. I wound up being Whole deal fell apart. I wound up being out about, you know, a few hundred,000 And I went back and dissected it and And I went back and dissected it and understood where we made our mistake. understood where we made our mistake. understood where we made our mistake. And the mistake was depending on others And the mistake was depending on others And the mistake was depending on others to fund your ideas. to fund your ideas. to fund your ideas. >> Interesting. Which is a lot of people do >> Interesting. Which is a lot of people do >> Interesting. Which is a lot of people do that though. that though. that though. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> True. >> True. >> True. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The idea they get >> The idea they get >> The idea they get >> and I mean and there's there's a ton of >> and I mean and there's there's a ton of >> and I mean and there's there's a ton of stories out there about how founders, stories out there about how founders, stories out there about how founders, you know, get voted out of their own you know, get voted out of their own you know, get voted out of their own businesses, the board moves them out, businesses, the board moves them out, businesses, the board moves them out, all of that stuff. and you just, you all of that stuff. and you just, you all of that stuff. and you just, you know, crazy things like, you know, know, crazy things like, you know, know, crazy things like, you know, you're moved out and then, oh, by the you're moved out and then, oh, by the you're moved out and then, oh, by the way, we're going to give you a severance way, we're going to give you a severance way, we're going to give you a severance of X. Oh, but if you want to keep your of X. Oh, but if you want to keep your of X. Oh, but if you want to keep your shares, it's going to cost you that X.

shares, it's going to cost you that X. shares, it's going to cost you that X. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, ouch. ouch. ouch. >> With still no guarantees. So, >> With still no guarantees. So, >> With still no guarantees. So, >> so at the time you probably thought that >> so at the time you probably thought that >> so at the time you probably thought that I have this PO for this many t-shirts I have this PO for this many t-shirts I have this PO for this many t-shirts and I should be able to go to the bank and I should be able to go to the bank and I should be able to go to the bank and get a loan based on this piece of and get a loan based on this piece of and get a loan based on this piece of paper cuz there's that story that's out paper cuz there's that story that's out paper cuz there's that story that's out there that says yes, you should be able there that says yes, you should be able there that says yes, you should be able to do that. Here's here's my collateral to do that. Here's here's my collateral to do that. Here's here's my collateral here. This is legit here. This is legit here. This is legit >> 100%. 100%. So, it it just it did not >> 100%. 100%. So, it it just it did not >> 100%. 100%. So, it it just it did not work that way. painful as it was, you work that way. painful as it was, you work that way. painful as it was, you know, and everyone everyone's like, know, and everyone everyone's like, know, and everyone everyone's like, "Well, why would you use your own "Well, why would you use your own "Well, why would you use your own money?" And I'm like, "I'm gonna bet on money?" And I'm like, "I'm gonna bet on money?" And I'm like, "I'm gonna bet on myself every time." myself every time." myself every time." >> Yeah. Bet on yourself. Yeah. >> Yeah. Bet on yourself. Yeah. >> Yeah. Bet on yourself. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I know a guy who knows a guy if he >> Oh, I know a guy who knows a guy if he >> Oh, I know a guy who knows a guy if he needs some money. So, >> there is a hassle factor, right? And I >> there is a hassle factor, right? And I think if you put your own skin in the think if you put your own skin in the think if you put your own skin in the game, you know, I think you think twice game, you know, I think you think twice game, you know, I think you think twice >> uh about what you do. So, >> uh about what you do. So, >> uh about what you do. So, >> yeah, being self-funded is that's the >> yeah, being self-funded is that's the >> yeah, being self-funded is that's the ideal. I mean, it's challenging though, ideal. I mean, it's challenging though, ideal. I mean, it's challenging though, right? if you need to really scale. But right? if you need to really scale. But right? if you need to really scale. But >> yeah.

>> yeah. >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, you mean like Jeff Bezos? >> Well, you mean like Jeff Bezos? >> Well, you mean like Jeff Bezos? >> Jeff Bezos come up story. I think his >> Jeff Bezos come up story. I think his >> Jeff Bezos come up story. I think his father his stepfather gave him $300,000. father his stepfather gave him $300,000. father his stepfather gave him $300,000. So if you have a So if you have a So if you have a >> there's that they can can throw you some >> there's that they can can throw you some >> there's that they can can throw you some a couple hundred thousing money from family members. What could go money from family members. What could go wrong? I mean there's no wrong? I mean there's no wrong? I mean there's no >> and that's that's the other end of it. >> and that's that's the other end of it. >> and that's that's the other end of it. I'm I'm like you know the that that part I'm I'm like you know the that that part I'm I'm like you know the that that part of it if you're if you're married best of it if you're if you're married best of it if you're if you're married best to have your partner on board to have your partner on board to have your partner on board uh and aligned to the risk associated uh and aligned to the risk associated uh and aligned to the risk associated with it. So that was McKenzie's dad who with it. So that was McKenzie's dad who with it. So that was McKenzie's dad who gave him the money. The one he divorced gave him the money. The one he divorced gave him the money. The one he divorced after he started um seeing the after he started um seeing the after he started um seeing the >> Oh, it was her dad. >> Oh, it was her dad. >> Oh, it was her dad. >> Whoops. >> Whoops. >> Whoops. >> Whoops. >> Whoops. >> Whoops. >> Wh There it is. >> Wh There it is. >> Wh There it is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. Ouch. You know, it's great though. >> Wow. Ouch. You know, it's great though. >> Wow. Ouch. You know, it's great though. Learning lessons from doing a small Learning lessons from doing a small Learning lessons from doing a small business. Something like t-shirts. I business. Something like t-shirts. I business. Something like t-shirts. I love that. The cool book from a long love that. The cool book from a long love that. The cool book from a long time ago. the I forgot the name of the time ago. the I forgot the name of the time ago. the I forgot the name of the woman, but but but the gist of the title woman, but but but the gist of the title woman, but but but the gist of the title was everything I learned about business was everything I learned about business was everything I learned about business I learned at McDonald's.

I learned at McDonald's. I learned at McDonald's. And the whole story was she, you know, And the whole story was she, you know, And the whole story was she, you know, like anybody who ever worked at like anybody who ever worked at like anybody who ever worked at McDonald's as a teenager or whatever, McDonald's as a teenager or whatever, McDonald's as a teenager or whatever, she kind of did that and did every job she kind of did that and did every job she kind of did that and did every job at a McDonald's and then became in at a McDonald's and then became in at a McDonald's and then became in management and then learned about management and then learned about management and then learned about inventory and taking a truck and had to inventory and taking a truck and had to inventory and taking a truck and had to run the books and everything. And I run the books and everything. And I run the books and everything. And I don't know if she became the she became don't know if she became the she became don't know if she became the she became a vice president in the corporation, but a vice president in the corporation, but a vice president in the corporation, but she kind of talked about it. It applies she kind of talked about it. It applies she kind of talked about it. It applies to any business. You know, I learned how to any business. You know, I learned how to any business. You know, I learned how to do everything. Don't belittle the to do everything. Don't belittle the to do everything. Don't belittle the fact that it's a McDonald's restaurant. fact that it's a McDonald's restaurant. fact that it's a McDonald's restaurant. >> It's a microcosm of the biggest, you >> It's a microcosm of the biggest, you >> It's a microcosm of the biggest, you know, of how everything works in the know, of how everything works in the know, of how everything works in the world, you know. world, you know. world, you know. >> True. >> True. >> True. >> By the way, McDonald's has some pretty >> By the way, McDonald's has some pretty >> By the way, McDonald's has some pretty cool R&D cool R&D cool R&D >> really. So like if you want to work in >> really. So like if you want to work in >> really. So like if you want to work in tech, applied tech, you know, places tech, applied tech, you know, places tech, applied tech, you know, places like McDonald's and Walmart, they have like McDonald's and Walmart, they have like McDonald's and Walmart, they have huge IT OT groups that doing a lot of huge IT OT groups that doing a lot of huge IT OT groups that doing a lot of their own development and coding and their own development and coding and their own development and coding and design and AI and all that stuff. So design and AI and all that stuff. So design and AI and all that stuff. So >> wow. Yeah, more than one way McDonald's. >> wow. Yeah, more than one way McDonald's. >> wow. Yeah, more than one way McDonald's. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> They experiment a lot. They roll out >> They experiment a lot. They roll out >> They experiment a lot. They roll out things and test it out, see if it works things and test it out, see if it works things and test it out, see if it works or not. They were actually the first or not. They were actually the first or not. They were actually the first um company back in I don't know when I um company back in I don't know when I um company back in I don't know when I say this it makes me sound like I'm a say this it makes me sound like I'm a say this it makes me sound like I'm a 100 years old but they were the first 100 years old but they were the first 100 years old but they were the first company that started using credit cards company that started using credit cards company that started using credit cards to pay for food.

to pay for food. to pay for food. >> You remember this? >> You remember this? >> You remember this? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And that was a big deal. >> And that was a big deal. >> And that was a big deal. >> It was it was a huge but you know back >> It was it was a huge but you know back >> It was it was a huge but you know back then you still have to sign. So I guess then you still have to sign. So I guess then you still have to sign. So I guess they figured it out. Like, well, why they figured it out. Like, well, why they figured it out. Like, well, why would you buy a hamburger on credit? would you buy a hamburger on credit? would you buy a hamburger on credit? >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. Exactly. Exactly. So, that was like they Exactly. Exactly. So, that was like they Exactly. Exactly. So, that was like they were like the first to to to like try to were like the first to to to like try to were like the first to to to like try to roll that out like I don't know about 30 roll that out like I don't know about 30 roll that out like I don't know about 30 years ago or something. years ago or something. years ago or something. >> Yeah. Because you're right, there was >> Yeah. Because you're right, there was >> Yeah. Because you're right, there was that that that >> that transition moment and but they >> that transition moment and but they >> that transition moment and but they reacted fast to it. you know, you went reacted fast to it. you know, you went reacted fast to it. you know, you went from everybody had cash and of course from everybody had cash and of course from everybody had cash and of course I'm using cash to buy a burger at I'm using cash to buy a burger at I'm using cash to buy a burger at McDonald's and then but reducing McDonald's and then but reducing McDonald's and then but reducing friction, you know, and all of a sudden friction, you know, and all of a sudden friction, you know, and all of a sudden more and more people had credit cards more and more people had credit cards more and more people had credit cards and lots of places, you're right, did and lots of places, you're right, did and lots of places, you're right, did not take credit cards to go to a not take credit cards to go to a not take credit cards to go to a restaurant or fast food, uh, let alone a restaurant or fast food, uh, let alone a restaurant or fast food, uh, let alone a drive-thru or whatever. Um, drive-thru or whatever. Um, drive-thru or whatever. Um, >> well, you know, that until the 70s, I >> well, you know, that until the 70s, I >> well, you know, that until the 70s, I believe, women weren't allowed to have believe, women weren't allowed to have believe, women weren't allowed to have credit cards. credit cards. credit cards. >> That was a >> That was a >> That was a >> ouch. Yeah, I think >> ouch. Yeah, I think >> ouch. Yeah, I think >> I don't know that.

>> I don't know that. >> I don't know that. >> You know, it's funny. It's funny that >> You know, it's funny. It's funny that >> You know, it's funny. It's funny that you mentioned that because it when I you mentioned that because it when I you mentioned that because it when I heard it and and then Pete when you heard it and and then Pete when you heard it and and then Pete when you said, you know, why would you buy a said, you know, why would you buy a said, you know, why would you buy a burger on credit? That was a Popeye burger on credit? That was a Popeye burger on credit? That was a Popeye thing. Wimpy was always saying, thing. Wimpy was always saying, thing. Wimpy was always saying, >> "That's right. I'll pay you Tuesday for >> "That's right. I'll pay you Tuesday for >> "That's right. I'll pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." a hamburger today." a hamburger today." >> Bingo. >> Bingo. >> Bingo. >> Boom. There you go. >> Boom. There you go. >> Boom. There you go. >> The original credit guy. >> The original credit guy. >> The original credit guy. You write a whole book about that. You write a whole book about that. You write a whole book about that. >> That's awesome. That's awesome. That >> That's awesome. That's awesome. That >> That's awesome. That's awesome. That could be a new business book. could be a new business book. could be a new business book. >> Learn from >> Learn from >> Learn from >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Learn from Wimpy. >> Learn from Wimpy. >> Learn from Wimpy. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> I love it. That's good. That's >> I love it. That's good. That's >> I love it. That's good. That's interesting. interesting. interesting. >> How to create a business where I can >> How to create a business where I can >> How to create a business where I can sell something that I don't own. Like um sell something that I don't own. Like um sell something that I don't own. Like um uh uh Spy Hero. uh uh Spy Hero. uh uh Spy Hero. >> It's like you don't own those spots, but >> It's like you don't own those spots, but >> It's like you don't own those spots, but you rent them. You know what I'm saying? you rent them. You know what I'm saying? you rent them. You know what I'm saying? So, I have to figure out how to do that. So, I have to figure out how to do that. So, I have to figure out how to do that. >> A spy hero. >> A spy hero. >> A spy hero. >> Spy hero. The the one um it tells you >> Spy hero. The the one um it tells you >> Spy hero. The the one um it tells you like you can rent parking spots, but like you can rent parking spots, but like you can rent parking spots, but basically they just go from town to town basically they just go from town to town basically they just go from town to town and and and ask towns like, "Hey, you and and and ask towns like, "Hey, you and and and ask towns like, "Hey, you know, there's some there's some space know, there's some there's some space know, there's some there's some space under a railroad track or under like a L under a railroad track or under like a L under a railroad track or under like a L track or something. Can we rent that?"

track or something. Can we rent that?" track or something. Can we rent that?" And they're like, "Well, sure. It was And they're like, "Well, sure. It was And they're like, "Well, sure. It was dead space. They weren't using it or dead space. They weren't using it or dead space. They weren't using it or whatever." But they don't have to buy whatever." But they don't have to buy whatever." But they don't have to buy the spots. All they have to do is rent the spots. All they have to do is rent the spots. All they have to do is rent it and give the, you know, the it and give the, you know, the it and give the, you know, the municipality a cut like spot hero. municipality a cut like spot hero. municipality a cut like spot hero. >> They do that. They do that in Texas a >> They do that. They do that in Texas a >> They do that. They do that in Texas a lot. lot. lot. >> Spot. >> Spot. >> Spot. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You can go into downtown into into >> Yeah. You can go into downtown into into >> Yeah. You can go into downtown into into downtown Austin and look at the downtown Austin and look at the downtown Austin and look at the underpasses underpasses underpasses and and you will find and the thing and and you will find and the thing and and you will find and the thing about it is it's not regulated in terms about it is it's not regulated in terms about it is it's not regulated in terms of what you can charge. of what you can charge. of what you can charge. >> Oh, right. >> Oh, right. >> Oh, right. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. Yeah, you didn't buy anything. You just Yeah, you didn't buy anything. You just Yeah, you didn't buy anything. You just put a sign up and told got a app and put a sign up and told got a app and put a sign up and told got a app and told somebody to go there and they told somebody to go there and they told somebody to go there and they collect money. You split the money. collect money. You split the money. collect money. You split the money. >> That's a great deal. >> That's a great deal. >> That's a great deal. >> So, it's kind of a I mean, like if you >> So, it's kind of a I mean, like if you >> So, it's kind of a I mean, like if you were if you had a food truck, you know, were if you had a food truck, you know, were if you had a food truck, you know, you kind of you go to the business and you kind of you go to the business and you kind of you go to the business and say, "I'd like to put my food truck in say, "I'd like to put my food truck in say, "I'd like to put my food truck in the parking lot here." the parking lot here." the parking lot here." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to give you a cut or whatever. >> I'm going to give you a cut or whatever. >> I'm going to give you a cut or whatever. Or a vending machine. I want to put a Or a vending machine. I want to put a Or a vending machine. I want to put a vending machine in your whatever.

vending machine in your whatever. vending machine in your whatever. >> Big machine, you know. >> Big machine, you know. >> Big machine, you know. >> Yeah. or like Uber because Uber doesn't >> Yeah. or like Uber because Uber doesn't >> Yeah. or like Uber because Uber doesn't own cars, right? own cars, right? own cars, right? >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> But they manage transportation. >> But they manage transportation. >> But they manage transportation. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> they are >> they are >> they are >> matchmaking. That's that's that's >> matchmaking. That's that's that's >> matchmaking. That's that's that's brilliant. Yes. brilliant. Yes. brilliant. Yes. >> Matchmaking. Find ways to matchmake. >> Matchmaking. Find ways to matchmake. >> Matchmaking. Find ways to matchmake. >> Matchmaking. Well, the real estate >> Matchmaking. Well, the real estate >> Matchmaking. Well, the real estate agent, same thing, right? You know, agent, same thing, right? You know, agent, same thing, right? You know, matchmaking. matchmaking. matchmaking. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which seems to be really tenuous when >> Which seems to be really tenuous when >> Which seems to be really tenuous when you can find everything online now and you can find everything online now and you can find everything online now and have 3D walkthroughs and all kinds of have 3D walkthroughs and all kinds of have 3D walkthroughs and all kinds of stuff. But I get it. People are still stuff. But I get it. People are still stuff. But I get it. People are still using agents. using agents. using agents. >> You're right. They do. You're right. >> You're right. They do. You're right. >> You're right. They do. You're right. >> Well, you just went through that >> Well, you just went through that >> Well, you just went through that process. Are you still staging your process. Are you still staging your process. Are you still staging your house? Is that what we're seeing behind house? Is that what we're seeing behind house? Is that what we're seeing behind you? you? you? >> Yes, clearly. But yeah. Um, yes. Our >> Yes, clearly. But yeah. Um, yes. Our >> Yes, clearly. But yeah. Um, yes. Our house is on the market and we went house is on the market and we went house is on the market and we went through hell and back and spent a lot of through hell and back and spent a lot of through hell and back and spent a lot of money. I didn't realize you had to spend money. I didn't realize you had to spend money. I didn't realize you had to spend a lot of money to sell your house. I a lot of money to sell your house. I a lot of money to sell your house. I thought people gave you money, but what thought people gave you money, but what thought people gave you money, but what did I know, you know? And so we did I know, you know? And so we did I know, you know? And so we repainted the interior and the exterior repainted the interior and the exterior repainted the interior and the exterior and new carpet and new carpet and new carpet and we got a brand new roof.

and we got a brand new roof. and we got a brand new roof. >> You decided to stay. >> You decided to stay. >> You decided to stay. >> Oh, those are so expensive. >> Oh, those are so expensive. >> Oh, those are so expensive. >> I know. And so we Yeah. poured a lot of >> I know. And so we Yeah. poured a lot of >> I know. And so we Yeah. poured a lot of money and and so yeah, house is on the money and and so yeah, house is on the money and and so yeah, house is on the market and it's got all this new stuff. market and it's got all this new stuff. market and it's got all this new stuff. And you're right, you it's like that And you're right, you it's like that And you're right, you it's like that love it or list it show from way back love it or list it show from way back love it or list it show from way back when, you know, it's like, oh wow, our when, you know, it's like, oh wow, our when, you know, it's like, oh wow, our houses never look better. I think I want houses never look better. I think I want houses never look better. I think I want to stay, you know. to stay, you know. to stay, you know. >> Yeah. And so, yeah, crazy. >> Yeah. And so, yeah, crazy. >> Yeah. And so, yeah, crazy. >> Really loving this >> Really loving this >> Really loving this >> the real estate market. Well, and then >> the real estate market. Well, and then >> the real estate market. Well, and then the agent Yeah. takes their cut. So, um the agent Yeah. takes their cut. So, um the agent Yeah. takes their cut. So, um >> Yes. And they have stagers. >> Yes. And they have stagers. >> Yes. And they have stagers. >> Stagers. >> Stagers. >> Stagers. >> Got the whole staging thing. So, >> Got the whole staging thing. So, >> Got the whole staging thing. So, >> bring in their, >> bring in their, >> bring in their, >> you know, the IoT IoT thing, you know, >> you know, the IoT IoT thing, you know, >> you know, the IoT IoT thing, you know, the insurance companies, they send the insurance companies, they send the insurance companies, they send drones out to like spec out area and drones out to like spec out area and drones out to like spec out area and everything property. Hey, Pete has a everything property. Hey, Pete has a everything property. Hey, Pete has a rake on his grass. It's been there for rake on his grass. It's been there for rake on his grass. It's been there for like three weeks or whatever. like three weeks or whatever. like three weeks or whatever. It's not in the shed. It's just out. It's not in the shed. It's just out. It's not in the shed. It's just out. >> That's right. The homeowners >> That's right. The homeowners >> That's right. The homeowners association's going to come after him association's going to come after him association's going to come after him because he's got a rake in his yard.

because he's got a rake in his yard. because he's got a rake in his yard. >> The drones. >> The drones. >> The drones. Spy drones. Spy drones. Spy drones. >> That's always an interesting thing. >> That's always an interesting thing. >> That's always an interesting thing. >> I was talking to a company called EMass >> I was talking to a company called EMass >> I was talking to a company called EMass this week. They're out of a very this week. They're out of a very this week. They're out of a very interesting company that makes very low interesting company that makes very low interesting company that makes very low power power power edge AI processing for mostly like the edge AI processing for mostly like the edge AI processing for mostly like the anything that's really power um power anything that's really power um power anything that's really power um power intensive like drones is a big part of intensive like drones is a big part of intensive like drones is a big part of their market. So imagine with a drone their market. So imagine with a drone their market. So imagine with a drone like the less power you can cons you like the less power you can cons you like the less power you can cons you have to consume you know you get more have to consume you know you get more have to consume you know you get more flight time you get better uh lighter flight time you get better uh lighter flight time you get better uh lighter batteries and things like that. So um batteries and things like that. So um batteries and things like that. So um but it was really interesting to hear but it was really interesting to hear but it was really interesting to hear what they're some of the applications what they're some of the applications what they're some of the applications they're having but in that drone space they're having but in that drone space they're having but in that drone space like every half ounce matters. So and like every half ounce matters. So and like every half ounce matters. So and the amount of uh you can get 20 30 50x the amount of uh you can get 20 30 50x the amount of uh you can get 20 30 50x you know tops per watt improvements then you know tops per watt improvements then you know tops per watt improvements then all of a sudden your drones can fly that all of a sudden your drones can fly that all of a sudden your drones can fly that much farther and uh longer and things much farther and uh longer and things much farther and uh longer and things like that. So anyway like that. So anyway like that. So anyway >> there you go >> there you go >> there you go >> just to just to reconnect the whole >> just to just to reconnect the whole >> just to just to reconnect the whole conversation back to tech. conversation back to tech. conversation back to tech. >> Pulled it back. Pull it back. >> Pulled it back. Pull it back. >> Pulled it back. Pull it back. >> Pull it back. Exactly. Exactly. Wow.

>> Pull it back. Exactly. Exactly. Wow. >> Pull it back. Exactly. Exactly. Wow. >> I'm still waiting for my Amazon drone >> I'm still waiting for my Amazon drone >> I'm still waiting for my Amazon drone deliveries which never showed up. deliveries which never showed up. deliveries which never showed up. >> When is that going to happen? >> When is that going to happen? >> When is that going to happen? >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> It's happening a few places. >> It's happening a few places. >> It's happening a few places. >> Do they Are they doing that? You're >> Do they Are they doing that? You're >> Do they Are they doing that? You're supposed to put a little Target out. supposed to put a little Target out. supposed to put a little Target out. Little little Target on your driveway. Little little Target on your driveway. Little little Target on your driveway. And And And >> I mean, I would prefer that over the >> I mean, I would prefer that over the >> I mean, I would prefer that over the over the people that now just come and over the people that now just come and over the people that now just come and just they see the sidewalk entrance to just they see the sidewalk entrance to just they see the sidewalk entrance to my house and just drop it there on the my house and just drop it there on the my house and just drop it there on the corner, you know? corner, you know? corner, you know? >> Blow down and chuck it out the window. >> Blow down and chuck it out the window. >> Blow down and chuck it out the window. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. Right. Actually, I don't know if >> Right. Right. Actually, I don't know if >> Right. Right. Actually, I don't know if you watched The Bear, the show The Bear you watched The Bear, the show The Bear you watched The Bear, the show The Bear on Who? on Who? on Who? >> They employ a robot to deliver the beef >> They employ a robot to deliver the beef >> They employ a robot to deliver the beef sandwiches now called Chucky. sandwiches now called Chucky. sandwiches now called Chucky. >> Oh, I must be way I'm way behind in the >> Oh, I must be way I'm way behind in the >> Oh, I must be way I'm way behind in the bear. I need to catch up. bear. I need to catch up. bear. I need to catch up. >> Put the sandwich in Chucky and Chucky >> Put the sandwich in Chucky and Chucky >> Put the sandwich in Chucky and Chucky just drives away. And just drives away. And just drives away. And >> that's hilarious. >> that's hilarious. >> that's hilarious. >> So, I apologize. This is not techreated, >> So, I apologize. This is not techreated, >> So, I apologize. This is not techreated, but in addition to getting to see but in addition to getting to see but in addition to getting to see Marshon Lynch on the sidelines at the Marshon Lynch on the sidelines at the Marshon Lynch on the sidelines at the football game last night, football game last night, football game last night, I loved some little items since I'm into I loved some little items since I'm into I loved some little items since I'm into wine and things like that. Uh we were wine and things like that. Uh we were wine and things like that. Uh we were kind of doing the Delta 360 club level kind of doing the Delta 360 club level kind of doing the Delta 360 club level there at the football stadium and you there at the football stadium and you there at the football stadium and you can they have a giant bar and you can can they have a giant bar and you can can they have a giant bar and you can bring this to your seat. You can get a bring this to your seat. You can get a bring this to your seat. You can get a whole bottle of wine. So, I was like, whole bottle of wine. So, I was like, whole bottle of wine. So, I was like, "Yes, we'll have a bottle of Dil D2."

"Yes, we'll have a bottle of Dil D2." "Yes, we'll have a bottle of Dil D2." And then they have And we I brought it And then they have And we I brought it And then they have And we I brought it home because I think the design is home because I think the design is home because I think the design is great. I should bring it. I should find great. I should bring it. I should find great. I should bring it. I should find it. Um it's a car that's really good it. Um it's a car that's really good it. Um it's a car that's really good plastic craft, but it looks like a nice plastic craft, but it looks like a nice plastic craft, but it looks like a nice glass car. Has this attachment on top glass car. Has this attachment on top glass car. Has this attachment on top that has like a air raator thing in that has like a air raator thing in that has like a air raator thing in there. And so, basically the woman at there. And so, basically the woman at there. And so, basically the woman at the bar, she like grabs the D2 bottle, the bar, she like grabs the D2 bottle, the bar, she like grabs the D2 bottle, opens it, just pulls it straight down opens it, just pulls it straight down opens it, just pulls it straight down there. And so you're getting a lot of there. And so you're getting a lot of there. And so you're getting a lot of arration obviously. So just going chug a arration obviously. So just going chug a arration obviously. So just going chug a luga lug in there. And then puts this luga lug in there. And then puts this luga lug in there. And then puts this screws this thing on there. It's a screws this thing on there. It's a screws this thing on there. It's a airator and then the lid and they give airator and then the lid and they give airator and then the lid and they give you your cups and you walk to your seat you your cups and you walk to your seat you your cups and you walk to your seat and now you've got some high-end wine and now you've got some high-end wine and now you've got some high-end wine and you know I thought it was pretty and you know I thought it was pretty and you know I thought it was pretty darn cool. And then darn cool. And then darn cool. And then >> pretty cool. >> pretty cool. >> pretty cool. >> Other high-end cocktails, margaritas, >> Other high-end cocktails, margaritas, >> Other high-end cocktails, margaritas, all things were in these beautiful, it all things were in these beautiful, it all things were in these beautiful, it looked like I was high-end glasses that looked like I was high-end glasses that looked like I was high-end glasses that people were taking to their seats, but people were taking to their seats, but people were taking to their seats, but it turns out they were all plastic. it turns out they were all plastic. it turns out they were all plastic. >> Um, but super impressive. They look so >> Um, but super impressive. They look so >> Um, but super impressive. They look so real and real and real and >> the plexiglass stuff is pretty >> the plexiglass stuff is pretty >> the plexiglass stuff is pretty impressive. impressive. impressive. >> Yeah, I was. And so I was like, yeah, >> Yeah, I was. And so I was like, yeah, >> Yeah, I was. And so I was like, yeah, you know, so things you might want to you know, so things you might want to you know, so things you might want to have at your house, like if you have have at your house, like if you have have at your house, like if you have guests over and maybe you're outside on guests over and maybe you're outside on guests over and maybe you're outside on the patio, on the deck or whatever, and the patio, on the deck or whatever, and the patio, on the deck or whatever, and you don't want to break glasses, you you don't want to break glasses, you you don't want to break glasses, you know.

know. know. >> Yeah. No, we have a set of uh outdoor >> Yeah. No, we have a set of uh outdoor >> Yeah. No, we have a set of uh outdoor wear like that. Um that's like Yeah, wear like that. Um that's like Yeah, wear like that. Um that's like Yeah, it's it's gotten a lot better these it's it's gotten a lot better these it's it's gotten a lot better these days. And he's the old plastic. They got days. And he's the old plastic. They got days. And he's the old plastic. They got the red solo cups. Those are cool. But the red solo cups. Those are cool. But the red solo cups. Those are cool. But uh uh uh >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Even those you can buy that are like, >> Even those you can buy that are like, >> Even those you can buy that are like, you know, high-end you know, high-end you know, high-end >> high-end solo cups, >> high-end solo cups, >> high-end solo cups, >> reusable. >> reusable. >> reusable. >> But uh no, they these the going back to >> But uh no, they these the going back to >> But uh no, they these the going back to the hospitality thing. The the hospitality thing. The the hospitality thing. The >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> pretty sophisticated food and beverage >> pretty sophisticated food and beverage >> pretty sophisticated food and beverage situations there. That's kind of part of situations there. That's kind of part of situations there. That's kind of part of the draw, right? Is you go to these the draw, right? Is you go to these the draw, right? Is you go to these games and you games and you games and you >> spend uh I don't know what you spend on >> spend uh I don't know what you spend on >> spend uh I don't know what you spend on your wine, but I'm sure was your wine, but I'm sure was your wine, but I'm sure was >> it was $72. >> it was $72. >> it was $72. >> Okay. for the bottle. Yes. I said >> Okay. for the bottle. Yes. I said >> Okay. for the bottle. Yes. I said >> that's crazy. That's >> that's crazy. That's >> that's crazy. That's >> I walked up there and I can I get like >> I walked up there and I can I get like >> I walked up there and I can I get like two or three cups of wine and of course two or three cups of wine and of course two or three cups of wine and of course she's like I could give you a whole she's like I could give you a whole she's like I could give you a whole bottle and that gives you four. And I'm bottle and that gives you four. And I'm bottle and that gives you four. And I'm like okay. like okay. like okay. >> All right, Bill. >> All right, Bill. >> All right, Bill. >> Bye, Bill. It's okay. It's a time to >> Bye, Bill. It's okay. It's a time to >> Bye, Bill. It's okay. It's a time to probably wrap up anyway. And then I probably wrap up anyway. And then I probably wrap up anyway. And then I don't like being late to those meetings.

don't like being late to those meetings. don't like being late to those meetings. >> All right. You guys have a great >> All right. You guys have a great >> All right. You guys have a great weekend. weekend. weekend. >> All right. You do the same. Good seeing >> All right. You do the same. Good seeing >> All right. You do the same. Good seeing you, man. All right. you, man. All right. you, man. All right. Well, Well, Well, >> all right. >> all right. >> all right. >> All right, Jents. Well, thank you so >> All right, Jents. Well, thank you so >> All right, Jents. Well, thank you so much as always. Sure. much as always. Sure. much as always. Sure. >> Yeah, of course. Maybe Pete, should you >> Yeah, of course. Maybe Pete, should you >> Yeah, of course. Maybe Pete, should you take us out? take us out? take us out? >> Sure, why not? Well, you've you've uh >> Sure, why not? Well, you've you've uh >> Sure, why not? Well, you've you've uh encountered us once again here on the encountered us once again here on the encountered us once again here on the internet tubes and uh we had a nice internet tubes and uh we had a nice internet tubes and uh we had a nice little tour of the Disney Store from little tour of the Disney Store from little tour of the Disney Store from Leonard and it kind of reminded me why I Leonard and it kind of reminded me why I Leonard and it kind of reminded me why I don't go to Disney stores anymore. don't go to Disney stores anymore. don't go to Disney stores anymore. Thank God. Um, but anyway, uh, yeah, so Thank God. Um, but anyway, uh, yeah, so Thank God. Um, but anyway, uh, yeah, so thanks for tuning in. Thanks for, uh, thanks for tuning in. Thanks for, uh, thanks for tuning in. Thanks for, uh, you know, maybe learning a few things you know, maybe learning a few things you know, maybe learning a few things here, a few things to read, a few things here, a few things to read, a few things here, a few things to read, a few things to think about. Also, make sure you go to think about. Also, make sure you go to think about. Also, make sure you go to elevatorids.org. to elevatorids.org. to elevatorids.org. That's really what we're doing here is That's really what we're doing here is That's really what we're doing here is to make sure that the digital divide or to make sure that the digital divide or to make sure that the digital divide or the digital chasm or whatever it's the digital chasm or whatever it's the digital chasm or whatever it's called is being uh, filled up with called is being uh, filled up with called is being uh, filled up with donations. And um more than ever, now donations. And um more than ever, now donations. And um more than ever, now that the tariffs are in place, I'm sure that the tariffs are in place, I'm sure that the tariffs are in place, I'm sure those pieces of tech will cost a little those pieces of tech will cost a little those pieces of tech will cost a little bit more, but uh your donations will bit more, but uh your donations will bit more, but uh your donations will help. So, elevatorids.org is really help. So, elevatorids.org is really help. So, elevatorids.org is really good. And um yeah, thank you Debbie and good. And um yeah, thank you Debbie and good. And um yeah, thank you Debbie and thank you Rob and Bill and Leonard. And thank you Rob and Bill and Leonard. And thank you Rob and Bill and Leonard. And um I guess we'll see you all next week.

um I guess we'll see you all next week. um I guess we'll see you all next week. >> Sounds like a plan. Great seeing you >> Sounds like a plan. Great seeing you >> Sounds like a plan. Great seeing you guys. Have a great weekend, everybody. guys. Have a great weekend, everybody. guys. Have a great weekend, everybody. >> All right, take care. >> All right, take care. >> All right, take care. >> All righty. Adio. >> All righty. Adio. >> All righty. Adio. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. [Music]