IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 243 - CES 2025 Recap!

all right here we go all right guys all right here we go all right guys let's kick things off with a little bit let's kick things off with a little bit let's kick things off with a little bit of Big and Rich because I know much you of Big and Rich because I know much you of Big and Rich because I know much you like country [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] go100 bills and it kills and it Thrills go100 bills and it kills and it Thrills like a hold on my silver like a hold on my silver like a hold on my silver and and and I around everybody's getting down in I around everybody's getting down in I around everybody's getting down in this town ain't never going to be the same you guys don't know this song No I same you guys don't know this song No I know ride a cow boy or whatever right know ride a cow boy or whatever right know ride a cow boy or whatever right almost almost almost [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] there there there my in the girl say my in the girl say my in the girl say single cowboy all right folks you all right folks you go right you know that's go right you know that's go right you know that's your write some reports for IBC that's your write some reports for IBC that's your write some reports for IBC that's what pretty much yeah that's like one of what pretty much yeah that's like one of what pretty much yeah that's like one of my oh my God that's one of my karaoke my oh my God that's one of my karaoke my oh my God that's one of my karaoke songs you know you know really like I

songs you know you know really like I songs you know you know really like I know each of you has your little know each of you has your little know each of you has your little repertoire of karaoke songs that you repertoire of karaoke songs that you repertoire of karaoke songs that you carry with you everywhere and um and so carry with you everywhere and um and so carry with you everywhere and um and so Save a Horse Ride a Cowboy is definitely Save a Horse Ride a Cowboy is definitely Save a Horse Ride a Cowboy is definitely one of mine as well as Creep by radio one of mine as well as Creep by radio one of mine as well as Creep by radio head classic and just FYI for folks who head classic and just FYI for folks who head classic and just FYI for folks who are thinking about singing Creep for are thinking about singing Creep for are thinking about singing Creep for karaoke once you sing it you will not be karaoke once you sing it you will not be karaoke once you sing it you will not be able to sing anything else the rest of able to sing anything else the rest of able to sing anything else the rest of the night because if you remember the the night because if you remember the the night because if you remember the end of the song your vocal cords will end of the song your vocal cords will end of the song your vocal cords will explode yeah yeah people just won't hand explode yeah yeah people just won't hand explode yeah yeah people just won't hand you the mic back yeah that's true cut you the mic back yeah that's true cut you the mic back yeah that's true cut off if you screw it up yeah just say off if you screw it up yeah just say off if you screw it up yeah just say okay that's enough for you you had too okay that's enough for you you had too okay that's enough for you you had too much to drink yeah clearly did you ever much to drink yeah clearly did you ever much to drink yeah clearly did you ever see Leonard or any of you did you all see Leonard or any of you did you all see Leonard or any of you did you all right so you know you always had right so you know you always had right so you know you always had American Idol and all these shows did American Idol and all these shows did American Idol and all these shows did you ever see something called Rockstar you ever see something called Rockstar you ever see something called Rockstar Supernova or rockstar Supernova or rockstar Supernova or rockstar inexcess no no right there was several inexcess no no right there was several inexcess no no right there was several many years ago I think they were like many years ago I think they were like many years ago I think they were like you and some of the networks were doing you and some of the networks were doing you and some of the networks were doing like summertime shows like summer only like summertime shows like summer only like summertime shows like summer only okay so basically I guess someone had okay so basically I guess someone had okay so basically I guess someone had the idea of why why can't we make our the idea of why why can't we make our the idea of why why can't we make our own American Idol but it's for like hard own American Idol but it's for like hard own American Idol but it's for like hard rock and stuff like that and it was so rock and stuff like that and it was so rock and stuff like that and it was so cool but the first one was called uh cool but the first one was called uh cool but the first one was called uh rockar in excess and basically all the rockar in excess and basically all the rockar in excess and basically all the band members obviously except when band members obviously except when band members obviously except when Michael Hutchins were there and the Michael Hutchins were there and the Michael Hutchins were there and the whole gist of it is you're going to have whole gist of it is you're going to have whole gist of it is you're going to have all these rockers and ultimately they're

all these rockers and ultimately they're all these rockers and ultimately they're auditioning to become the new lead auditioning to become the new lead auditioning to become the new lead singer for singer for singer for nxs and the current lead singer for nxs nxs and the current lead singer for nxs nxs and the current lead singer for nxs came from this show came from this show came from this show wow yeah yeah you know joury replaced wow yeah yeah you know joury replaced wow yeah yeah you know joury replaced their lead singer with uh uh someone I their lead singer with uh uh someone I their lead singer with uh uh someone I think I think he was from the think I think he was from the think I think he was from the Philippines but joury cover band he's Philippines but joury cover band he's Philippines but joury cover band he's awesome and they were like he's probably awesome and they were like he's probably awesome and they were like he's probably better than the Steve Perry he's better than the Steve Perry he's better than the Steve Perry he's a well um no he really good he's really a well um no he really good he's really a well um no he really good he's really good but Steve Perry is Steve Perry you good but Steve Perry is Steve Perry you good but Steve Perry is Steve Perry you know I don't think there's many know I don't think there's many know I don't think there's many people who do Steve Perry at his prime people who do Steve Perry at his prime people who do Steve Perry at his prime you know and that guy is so humble about you know and that guy is so humble about you know and that guy is so humble about Steve Perry he's always just like they Steve Perry he's always just like they Steve Perry he's always just like they refer to Steve Perry as the voice um refer to Steve Perry as the voice um refer to Steve Perry as the voice um you're right he sounds just like him and you're right he sounds just like him and you're right he sounds just like him and you know what that's kind of a trend you know what that's kind of a trend you know what that's kind of a trend you're older you're older you're older band and you get a new young guy to be band and you get a new young guy to be band and you get a new young guy to be your lead singer who can still like run your lead singer who can still like run your lead singer who can still like run around went on tour with Queen you know around went on tour with Queen you know around went on tour with Queen you know that's right oh yeah yeah Adam Lambert I that's right oh yeah yeah Adam Lambert I that's right oh yeah yeah Adam Lambert I saw that yeah that's awesome maybe we saw that yeah that's awesome maybe we saw that yeah that's awesome maybe we should put on a live show on the uh iot should put on a live show on the uh iot should put on a live show on the uh iot coffee talk to hire some young guy to coffee talk to hire some young guy to coffee talk to hire some young guy to replace us all replace us all replace us all us I love it know ideas and you know us I love it know ideas and you know us I love it know ideas and you know novel ideas something like that oh yeah novel ideas something like that oh yeah novel ideas something like that oh yeah well you know we we invite younger folks well you know we we invite younger folks well you know we we invite younger folks to come on you know and I think Ryan's to come on you know and I think Ryan's to come on you know and I think Ryan's pretty young yeah he's pretty young he

pretty young yeah he's pretty young he pretty young yeah he's pretty young he might be a 20 something I don't know might be a 20 something I don't know might be a 20 something I don't know yeah borderline maybe he's like 30 yeah borderline maybe he's like 30 yeah borderline maybe he's like 30 something right okay all right something right okay all right something right okay all right so we don't we had a few we had a few so we don't we had a few we had a few so we don't we had a few we had a few younger folks on early in career we call younger folks on early in career we call younger folks on early in career we call yeah early in career yeah yes haven't yeah early in career yeah yes haven't yeah early in career yeah yes haven't aged out them yeah but they're always aged out them yeah but they're always aged out them yeah but they're always they're always invited we have an open they're always invited we have an open they're always invited we have an open invitation to all young people out there invitation to all young people out there invitation to all young people out there you wantan to yeah haven't yet haven't you wantan to yeah haven't yet haven't you wantan to yeah haven't yet haven't yet hit that trigger in HR at their yet hit that trigger in HR at their yet hit that trigger in HR at their company yet where they're like oh it's company yet where they're like oh it's company yet where they're like oh it's time to have that time to have that time to have that [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] talk yeah thought about what you're talk yeah thought about what you're talk yeah thought about what you're gonna do after you work here what yeah gonna do after you work here what yeah gonna do after you work here what yeah what do you mean isn't this life yeah so what do you mean isn't this life yeah so what do you mean isn't this life yeah so yeah yeah I don't know you look like yeah yeah I don't know you look like yeah yeah I don't know you look like you're uh I'm guessing you're still in you're uh I'm guessing you're still in you're uh I'm guessing you're still in Las Vegas in front of the B that Las Vegas in front of the B that Las Vegas in front of the B that accurate are you at home I'm actually in accurate are you at home I'm actually in accurate are you at home I'm actually in Utah right now I got here last night oh Utah right now I got here last night oh Utah right now I got here last night oh no way escaped Vegas yeah no good for no way escaped Vegas yeah no good for no way escaped Vegas yeah no good for you yeah we're going to escape Vegas in you yeah we're going to escape Vegas in you yeah we're going to escape Vegas in about uh 3 hours so but anyways hey we about uh 3 hours so but anyways hey we about uh 3 hours so but anyways hey we gotta do our intro hey everyone welcome gotta do our intro hey everyone welcome gotta do our intro hey everyone welcome to iot Coffee Talk I love how after we to iot Coffee Talk I love how after we to iot Coffee Talk I love how after we do Bad karaoke we forget that we're do Bad karaoke we forget that we're do Bad karaoke we forget that we're actually you know doing a yeah yeah

actually you know doing a yeah yeah actually you know doing a yeah yeah extremely serious show so yeah I'm extremely serious show so yeah I'm extremely serious show so yeah I'm out so out so out so um um um yeah Pete and I were here yeah Pete and I were here yeah Pete and I were here for um CES 2025 right so I have really for um CES 2025 right so I have really for um CES 2025 right so I have really crappy yeah Internet and mobile access crappy yeah Internet and mobile access crappy yeah Internet and mobile access in my apartment over here and um decided in my apartment over here and um decided in my apartment over here and um decided to just step on out here in front of the to just step on out here in front of the to just step on out here in front of the bagio yeah and their gigantic Pond I was bagio yeah and their gigantic Pond I was bagio yeah and their gigantic Pond I was gonna say gonna say gonna say wo shoot up right we need fountains you wo shoot up right we need fountains you wo shoot up right we need fountains you know I know I know but enough a final know I know I know but enough a final know I know I know but enough a final that final that final scene from Oceans that final that final scene from Oceans that final that final scene from Oceans 11 you know and they're all just kind of 11 you know and they're all just kind of 11 you know and they're all just kind of standing there at the very end of the standing there at the very end of the standing there at the very end of the movie watching The Fountains you know movie watching The Fountains you know movie watching The Fountains you know that music playing Watch movie recently that music playing Watch movie recently that music playing Watch movie recently actually yeah great movie I love it oh actually yeah great movie I love it oh actually yeah great movie I love it oh my gosh awesome movie yeah and clearly my gosh awesome movie yeah and clearly my gosh awesome movie yeah and clearly Leonard is connected to us via something Leonard is connected to us via something Leonard is connected to us via something you refer to as GPRS folks um and you refer to as GPRS folks um and you refer to as GPRS folks um and sometimes you can still hear him talking sometimes you can still hear him talking sometimes you can still hear him talking even though his head is frozen for like even though his head is frozen for like even though his head is frozen for like 30 seconds but you still hear his voice 30 seconds but you still hear his voice 30 seconds but you still hear his voice and then it's like really jerk oh yeah and then it's like really jerk oh yeah and then it's like really jerk oh yeah dude totally it's really bad oh little dude totally it's really bad oh little dude totally it's really bad oh little it's not too bad not too bad it's not it's not too bad not too bad it's not it's not too bad not too bad it's not too bad it's not too bad we got you got too bad it's not too bad we got you got too bad it's not too bad we got you got yeah but it's a nice background there yeah but it's a nice background there yeah but it's a nice background there there always the irony at any of these there always the irony at any of these there always the irony at any of these major Tech events the connectivity is major Tech events the connectivity is major Tech events the connectivity is horrible so oh yeah well I mean there's

horrible so oh yeah well I mean there's horrible so oh yeah well I mean there's no one here and um the reason why I no one here and um the reason why I no one here and um the reason why I stepped out here is simply because stepped out here is simply because stepped out here is simply because uh I thought you know there'd be 5G you uh I thought you know there'd be 5G you uh I thought you know there'd be 5G you get those 5G beams coming at you yeah get those 5G beams coming at you yeah get those 5G beams coming at you yeah yeah yeah so this is a great use case yeah yeah so this is a great use case yeah yeah so this is a great use case right usually there's a a ton of people right usually there's a a ton of people right usually there's a a ton of people here in the evening right oh yeah and um here in the evening right oh yeah and um here in the evening right oh yeah and um yeah you know I have to tell you yeah you know I have to tell you yeah you know I have to tell you connectivity Wireless connectivity is connectivity Wireless connectivity is connectivity Wireless connectivity is horrible in Las horrible in Las horrible in Las Vegas and they will tell that they they Vegas and they will tell that they they Vegas and they will tell that they they have the most advanced networks and have the most advanced networks and have the most advanced networks and deployments here deployments here deployments here I don't feel it in fact your devices act I don't feel it in fact your devices act I don't feel it in fact your devices act really goofy you know it's almost like really goofy you know it's almost like really goofy you know it's almost like being in a different country where you being in a different country where you being in a different country where you know a lot of the interference and know a lot of the interference and know a lot of the interference and inefficient uh spectral use just inefficient uh spectral use just inefficient uh spectral use just completely um confuses your devices it's completely um confuses your devices it's completely um confuses your devices it's like it's weird you know yeah um no i' like it's weird you know yeah um no i' like it's weird you know yeah um no i' I've had a real tough time here in Vegas I've had a real tough time here in Vegas I've had a real tough time here in Vegas this year I don't I I don't know about this year I don't I I don't know about this year I don't I I don't know about you Pete yeah I mean it was a little you Pete yeah I mean it was a little you Pete yeah I mean it was a little dice I mean I definitely tried to dice I mean I definitely tried to dice I mean I definitely tried to leverage the Wi-Fi and you know it's leverage the Wi-Fi and you know it's leverage the Wi-Fi and you know it's also it's not just Vegas too like the also it's not just Vegas too like the also it's not just Vegas too like the the connectivity in Barcelona for mwc is the connectivity in Barcelona for mwc is the connectivity in Barcelona for mwc is horrible too connectivity show so like horrible too connectivity show so like horrible too connectivity show so like where is the connectivity not horrible I where is the connectivity not horrible I where is the connectivity not horrible I think that's the more bit more question think that's the more bit more question think that's the more bit more question like what has good connectivity these like what has good connectivity these like what has good connectivity these days certain parking lots in front of days certain parking lots in front of days certain parking lots in front of certain grocery stores like there's a certain grocery stores like there's a certain grocery stores like there's a particular Redmond Ridge QFC parking lot

particular Redmond Ridge QFC parking lot particular Redmond Ridge QFC parking lot I could run a data center off of my I could run a data center off of my I could run a data center off of my phone the connectivity is so awesome and phone the connectivity is so awesome and phone the connectivity is so awesome and fast you know like you go do speed tests fast you know like you go do speed tests fast you know like you go do speed tests there and you're like oh my God I'm there and you're like oh my God I'm there and you're like oh my God I'm building a data center right here in the building a data center right here in the building a data center right here in the parking lot they should have CES there parking lot they should have CES there parking lot they should have CES there then yes you know it's interesting then yes you know it's interesting then yes you know it's interesting Pete's just picture background is so Pete's just picture background is so Pete's just picture background is so crisp and clear it looks like you're in crisp and clear it looks like you're in crisp and clear it looks like you're in a professional studio thank you yeah a professional studio thank you yeah a professional studio thank you yeah yeah exactly you kind got the boka you yeah exactly you kind got the boka you yeah exactly you kind got the boka you got the bokeh thing going a little bit got the bokeh thing going a little bit got the bokeh thing going a little bit there yeah well it's it's a it's a there yeah well it's it's a it's a there yeah well it's it's a it's a little Airbnb it's a nice place but I'm little Airbnb it's a nice place but I'm little Airbnb it's a nice place but I'm just us my MacBook Air M2 yeah really just us my MacBook Air M2 yeah really just us my MacBook Air M2 yeah really stock wow stock camera wow wow what a stock wow stock camera wow wow what a stock wow stock camera wow wow what a that's what some props to Apple wow yeah that's what some props to Apple wow yeah that's what some props to Apple wow yeah yeah you look really good yeah you look yeah you look really good yeah you look yeah you look really good yeah you look great dude are you saying the props to great dude are you saying the props to great dude are you saying the props to Apple AI to making look maybe that's it Apple AI to making look maybe that's it Apple AI to making look maybe that's it there's Apple intelligence going on here there's Apple intelligence going on here there's Apple intelligence going on here serious artificial intelligence right serious artificial intelligence right serious artificial intelligence right there s bit that's so mean dude there s bit that's so mean dude there s bit that's so mean dude Olivia you're a mean guy Olivia you're a mean guy Olivia you're a mean guy I'm actually by the way so speaking of I'm actually by the way so speaking of I'm actually by the way so speaking of speaking of events I'll do my little speaking of events I'll do my little speaking of events I'll do my little pitch here but and and I see Rob has his pitch here but and and I see Rob has his pitch here but and and I see Rob has his Texas uh gear on there um hopefully Texas uh gear on there um hopefully Texas uh gear on there um hopefully we'll have connectivity down in our we'll have connectivity down in our we'll have connectivity down in our event uh the edji foundation Event in event uh the edji foundation Event in event uh the edji foundation Event in Austin Texas February 25th to the 27th Austin Texas February 25th to the 27th Austin Texas February 25th to the 27th and in fact Olivier block will be there and in fact Olivier block will be there and in fact Olivier block will be there as in addition to yes sir live streaming

as in addition to yes sir live streaming as in addition to yes sir live streaming the iot show uh and reg is open and it's the iot show uh and reg is open and it's the iot show uh and reg is open and it's actually filling up pretty quick so actually filling up pretty quick so actually filling up pretty quick so folks should uh go to our website and folks should uh go to our website and folks should uh go to our website and and get save a spot we're going to have and get save a spot we're going to have and get save a spot we're going to have Keynotes from uh Professor from Keynotes from uh Professor from Keynotes from uh Professor from University of Texas San Antonio on University of Texas San Antonio on University of Texas San Antonio on neuromorphic Computing we have a keynote neuromorphic Computing we have a keynote neuromorphic Computing we have a keynote from in oh wow we have a keynote from from in oh wow we have a keynote from from in oh wow we have a keynote from Dell we have a keynote from Silicon Labs Dell we have a keynote from Silicon Labs Dell we have a keynote from Silicon Labs nxp wow like three workshops um yeah the nxp wow like three workshops um yeah the nxp wow like three workshops um yeah the live streaming we're going to have some live streaming we're going to have some live streaming we're going to have some cool barbecue and music in the evenings cool barbecue and music in the evenings cool barbecue and music in the evenings and stuff I think shuffle board too is and stuff I think shuffle board too is and stuff I think shuffle board too is one of their one of their one of their oh that'll get them wow those all those oh that'll get them wow those all those oh that'll get them wow those all those people that recently had that people that recently had that people that recently had that conversation with HR at their company conversation with HR at their company conversation with HR at their company because they hit a certain age they they because they hit a certain age they they because they hit a certain age they they love shuffle board exercises but anyway yeah so board exercises but anyway yeah so people should go to our website register people should go to our website register people should go to our website register got a bunch of uh Academia there got a bunch of uh Academia there got a bunch of uh Academia there industry folks students there's a huge industry folks students there's a huge industry folks students there's a huge student discount it's like practically student discount it's like practically student discount it's like practically free we actually have travel grants too free we actually have travel grants too free we actually have travel grants too if you want to apply for a travel Grant if you want to apply for a travel Grant if you want to apply for a travel Grant so anyway just a SL short pitch so anyway just a SL short pitch so anyway just a SL short pitch I saw the Texas stuff there and it I saw the Texas stuff there and it I saw the Texas stuff there and it reminded me of what were those dates reminded me of what were those dates reminded me of what were those dates again February what February 25th to the again February what February 25th to the again February what February 25th to the 27th all 27th all 27th all right hopefully we'll have good right hopefully we'll have good right hopefully we'll have good connectivity I will double check I I connectivity I will double check I I connectivity I will double check I I hope so Pete otherwise the live stream hope so Pete otherwise the live stream hope so Pete otherwise the live stream will not go so well we will need very will not go so well we will need very will not go so well we will need very good good good cont and so those dates are pushing cont and so those dates are pushing cont and so those dates are pushing right up against people getting on right up against people getting on right up against people getting on airplanes to go to Barca aren't isn't it

airplanes to go to Barca aren't isn't it airplanes to go to Barca aren't isn't it true but it's kind of on the way as I true but it's kind of on the way as I true but it's kind of on the way as I was Leonard like you know San Diego was Leonard like you know San Diego was Leonard like you know San Diego Austin Barcelona it's like it's one Austin Barcelona it's like it's one Austin Barcelona it's like it's one Continuum you know just hang over Aus Continuum you know just hang over Aus Continuum you know just hang over Aus for a couple days before he hit for a couple days before he hit for a couple days before he hit Barcelona you know and so you said the Barcelona you know and so you said the Barcelona you know and so you said the 27th and 28th 25th to the 27th 25th to 27th and 28th 25th to the 27th 25th to 27th and 28th 25th to the 27th 25th to the 27th okay all the 27th okay all the 27th okay all right I'll be going to Barcelona we have right I'll be going to Barcelona we have right I'll be going to Barcelona we have iot stars night there yeah the week iot stars night there yeah the week iot stars night there yeah the week after it's embedded World in Norberg oh after it's embedded World in Norberg oh after it's embedded World in Norberg oh my God are you going to be there too yes my God are you going to be there too yes my God are you going to be there too yes I will oh my gosh wow wow dude yeah I'll I will oh my gosh wow wow dude yeah I'll I will oh my gosh wow wow dude yeah I'll be an embeded I can't handle that that's be an embeded I can't handle that that's be an embeded I can't handle that that's you guys are inego wow I'm Miss I'm you guys are inego wow I'm Miss I'm you guys are inego wow I'm Miss I'm missing Barcelona this year thankfully missing Barcelona this year thankfully missing Barcelona this year thankfully so so so yeah I I have to be there so you have to yeah I I have to be there so you have to yeah I I have to be there so you have to be there yeah and Leonard I think I'm be there yeah and Leonard I think I'm be there yeah and Leonard I think I'm I'm gonna be there in Barcelona but the I'm gonna be there in Barcelona but the I'm gonna be there in Barcelona but the event is too expensive for me to go to event is too expensive for me to go to event is too expensive for me to go to and they don't want me as a press guy and they don't want me as a press guy and they don't want me as a press guy cuz um that's not my main activity so cuz um that's not my main activity so cuz um that's not my main activity so they're just like did you type in all they're just like did you type in all they're just like did you type in all the stuff trying to prove that you were the stuff trying to prove that you were the stuff trying to prove that you were press guy yeah I I I did and you know press guy yeah I I I did and you know press guy yeah I I I did and you know believe your main activity is not press believe your main activity is not press believe your main activity is not press is not and I was like you know it's fair is not and I was like you know it's fair is not and I was like you know it's fair it's not I'm not doing journalism that's it's not I'm not doing journalism that's it's not I'm not doing journalism that's my side gig sure that's pretty fair set my side gig sure that's pretty fair set my side gig sure that's pretty fair set up a little stand outside the entrance up a little stand outside the entrance up a little stand outside the entrance where you can live stream and just uh where you can live stream and just uh where you can live stream and just uh hot dogs and stuff yeah yeah yeah I'll hot dogs and stuff yeah yeah yeah I'll hot dogs and stuff yeah yeah yeah I'll enjoy Barcelona with friends you know enjoy Barcelona with friends you know enjoy Barcelona with friends you know live streaming of the IU from iot stars

live streaming of the IU from iot stars live streaming of the IU from iot stars during the night and that's it during the night and that's it during the night and that's it you know when I think of the front AA you know when I think of the front AA you know when I think of the front AA Grand via I have flashbacks to during Grand via I have flashbacks to during Grand via I have flashbacks to during covid or a little after Co like first covid or a little after Co like first covid or a little after Co like first year back and they were making everybody year back and they were making everybody year back and they were making everybody wear masks and you the mask that you wear masks and you the mask that you wear masks and you the mask that you brought with you was certainly not good brought with you was certainly not good brought with you was certainly not good enough and so they made everybody get in enough and so they made everybody get in enough and so they made everybody get in another line out front to go to this another line out front to go to this another line out front to go to this tent to get the really hardcore what tent to get the really hardcore what tent to get the really hardcore what were those called the in n95 yeah and so were those called the in n95 yeah and so were those called the in n95 yeah and so and you had to pay for them of course um and you had to pay for them of course um and you had to pay for them of course um but yeah they were they were checking but yeah they were they were checking but yeah they were they were checking everybody and you had to have their everybody and you had to have their everybody and you had to have their official n95 mask to walk into her grand official n95 mask to walk into her grand official n95 mask to walk into her grand via oh yeah yeah yeah that was that was via oh yeah yeah yeah that was that was via oh yeah yeah yeah that was that was pretty crazy well I can I can confirm pretty crazy well I can I can confirm pretty crazy well I can I can confirm that at CES I don't know if they had I that at CES I don't know if they had I that at CES I don't know if they had I think they had 138,000 people last year think they had 138,000 people last year think they had 138,000 people last year it felt like they had more this year and it felt like they had more this year and it felt like they had more this year and um and there were germs flying all over um and there were germs flying all over um and there were germs flying all over the place so uh crowed and people were the place so uh crowed and people were the place so uh crowed and people were talking and yelling I went to a dinner talking and yelling I went to a dinner talking and yelling I went to a dinner one night uh a haer dinner which was one night uh a haer dinner which was one night uh a haer dinner which was great I really appreciate had the Golden great I really appreciate had the Golden great I really appreciate had the Golden Steer and uh it was a room full of Steer and uh it was a room full of Steer and uh it was a room full of people it was so loud like my Apple people it was so loud like my Apple people it was so loud like my Apple watch sent me a little notification like watch sent me a little notification like watch sent me a little notification like this is it's too loud here it's like I this is it's too loud here it's like I this is it's too loud here it's like I reached like the 90 deel level I will reached like the 90 deel level I will reached like the 90 deel level I will sound mean but that's is Apple AI just sound mean but that's is Apple AI just sound mean but that's is Apple AI just like dealing with the thresholds based like dealing with the thresholds based like dealing with the thresholds based on your age as well maybe maybe they're on your age as well maybe maybe they're on your age as well maybe maybe they're like hey what are you doing out ler it's like hey what are you doing out ler it's like hey what are you doing out ler it's after your bedtime I'm sure that your after your bedtime I'm sure that your after your bedtime I'm sure that your Samsung Ultra watch has that same

Samsung Ultra watch has that same Samsung Ultra watch has that same feature I'm sure yeah now they have like feature I'm sure yeah now they have like feature I'm sure yeah now they have like the they call that the Samsung AI like the they call that the Samsung AI like the they call that the Samsung AI like home AI whatever like they announc Cs home AI whatever like they announc Cs home AI whatever like they announc Cs and and that actually Segway like and and that actually Segway like and and that actually Segway like talking seriously Pete Leonard what did talking seriously Pete Leonard what did talking seriously Pete Leonard what did you hear about at CS that really I I you you hear about at CS that really I I you you hear about at CS that really I I you know what I've never been at CES really know what I've never been at CES really know what I've never been at CES really never and my reason is because I am too never and my reason is because I am too never and my reason is because I am too easily distracted by the new shiny easily distracted by the new shiny easily distracted by the new shiny object that then I realize is totally object that then I realize is totally object that then I realize is totally useless and I will never or whatever so useless and I will never or whatever so useless and I will never or whatever so it's like you know don't don't don't it's like you know don't don't don't it's like you know don't don't don't spend your money on on tons of things by spend your money on on tons of things by spend your money on on tons of things by just not going to the store so anything just not going to the store so anything just not going to the store so anything anything you think is actually relevant anything you think is actually relevant anything you think is actually relevant besides all the gimmicks and and funny besides all the gimmicks and and funny besides all the gimmicks and and funny things well I'll let Leonard go first things well I'll let Leonard go first things well I'll let Leonard go first because he's done a professional because he's done a professional because he's done a professional analysis man no you know what we analysis man no you know what we analysis man no you know what we actually cut like a actually cut like a actually cut like a episode or like a a special live episode episode or like a a special live episode episode or like a a special live episode at a bar here at the bagio right what it at a bar here at the bagio right what it at a bar here at the bagio right what it last night last night I noticed that I last night last night I noticed that I last night last night I noticed that I did like a ton of talking so I'll did like a ton of talking so I'll did like a ton of talking so I'll let Pete go first dude I apologize well let Pete go first dude I apologize well let Pete go first dude I apologize well I would say first of all the thing about I would say first of all the thing about I would say first of all the thing about had that old fashioned there was no had that old fashioned there was no had that old fashioned there was no stopping me yeah that's true was some stopping me yeah that's true was some stopping me yeah that's true was some good some good whiskey but uh there you good some good whiskey but uh there you good some good whiskey but uh there you know the thing about uh uh CES right know the thing about uh uh CES right know the thing about uh uh CES right it's like everything that runs on it's like everything that runs on it's like everything that runs on electricity that's what the show's about electricity that's what the show's about electricity that's what the show's about and it's like but the thing is it's a and it's like but the thing is it's a and it's like but the thing is it's a very high density show right so it's very high density show right so it's very high density show right so it's like everybody's there and so you could like everybody's there and so you could like everybody's there and so you could pack you could can meet everyone there

pack you could can meet everyone there pack you could can meet everyone there face to face over several days on face to face over several days on face to face over several days on whatever your topic is and so uh for me whatever your topic is and so uh for me whatever your topic is and so uh for me I was there for a ji Foundation I met I was there for a ji Foundation I met I was there for a ji Foundation I met with a bunch of existing Partners saw with a bunch of existing Partners saw with a bunch of existing Partners saw some cool behind the-scenes demos a lot some cool behind the-scenes demos a lot some cool behind the-scenes demos a lot of NDA demos of new stuff that's of NDA demos of new stuff that's of NDA demos of new stuff that's happening and I also met with a bunch of happening and I also met with a bunch of happening and I also met with a bunch of new partners and new potential partners new partners and new potential partners new partners and new potential partners that are joining the that are joining the that are joining the organization so for me I had that kind organization so for me I had that kind organization so for me I had that kind of edji slant I was looking at you know of edji slant I was looking at you know of edji slant I was looking at you know where it's being deployed uh where it's where it's being deployed uh where it's where it's being deployed uh where it's really being used and I thought I really being used and I thought I really being used and I thought I thought the show for me felt you know thought the show for me felt you know thought the show for me felt you know and this is not a negative but it felt and this is not a negative but it felt and this is not a negative but it felt incr it felt incremental it felt like a incr it felt incremental it felt like a incr it felt incremental it felt like a lot of the prototypes were becoming more lot of the prototypes were becoming more lot of the prototypes were becoming more deployed um more real stuff out there deployed um more real stuff out there deployed um more real stuff out there and you were seeing and you were seeing and you were seeing edji you know being deployed as sort of edji you know being deployed as sort of edji you know being deployed as sort of a standard practice it's like well of a standard practice it's like well of a standard practice it's like well of course we have you know this ability for course we have you know this ability for course we have you know this ability for these vacuums to do this and we have the these vacuums to do this and we have the these vacuums to do this and we have the ability to measure this and we have the ability to measure this and we have the ability to measure this and we have the ability to so it was pretty much almost ability to so it was pretty much almost ability to so it was pretty much almost like ubiquitous it felt like um which is like ubiquitous it felt like um which is like ubiquitous it felt like um which is great so the pro the the technolog is great so the pro the the technolog is great so the pro the the technolog is maturing at least this the sensor based maturing at least this the sensor based maturing at least this the sensor based Ai and then you've got all this other Ai and then you've got all this other Ai and then you've got all this other kind of kind of kind of agentic stuff that's still a little bit agentic stuff that's still a little bit agentic stuff that's still a little bit fuzzy and Wuzzy fuzzy and Wuzzy fuzzy and Wuzzy and that's still you know obviously and that's still you know obviously and that's still you know obviously cooking but I think on the on the sensor cooking but I think on the on the sensor cooking but I think on the on the sensor based or um uh AI stuff there was a lot based or um uh AI stuff there was a lot based or um uh AI stuff there was a lot of really cool deployment in real of really cool deployment in real of really cool deployment in real solutions which made a lot of sense solutions which made a lot of sense solutions which made a lot of sense that's great wow look real like you know that's great wow look real like you know that's great wow look real like you know that's my my f peeve here real solution that's my my f peeve here real solution that's my my f peeve here real solution as in useful ones because like yes some

as in useful ones because like yes some as in useful ones because like yes some tech media just like talking about hey tech media just like talking about hey tech media just like talking about hey this smart fridge thingy the smart this smart fridge thingy the smart this smart fridge thingy the smart vacuum but are the are these are the vacuum but are the are these are the vacuum but are the are these are the things that you know you will pay an things that you know you will pay an things that you know you will pay an extra for um if you're not a tech geek extra for um if you're not a tech geek extra for um if you're not a tech geek or are they really doing something I or are they really doing something I or are they really doing something I mean for me you have to separate mean for me you have to separate mean for me you have to separate consumer from commercial right so okay consumer from commercial right so okay consumer from commercial right so okay on the consumer side they'll always be on the consumer side they'll always be on the consumer side they'll always be fridges and stoves and like I saw fridges and stoves and like I saw fridges and stoves and like I saw desktop composter and I saw one thing is desktop composter and I saw one thing is desktop composter and I saw one thing is I clearly my vacuum is ancient because I clearly my vacuum is ancient because I clearly my vacuum is ancient because my vacuum cleaner does not climb the my vacuum cleaner does not climb the my vacuum cleaner does not climb the walls and Ste like refill soap and all walls and Ste like refill soap and all walls and Ste like refill soap and all this other still cleans but it's this other still cleans but it's this other still cleans but it's still clean it does but you know still clean it does but you know still clean it does but you know obviously I'm way behind because these obviously I'm way behind because these obviously I'm way behind because these things were there's the the one from things were there's the the one from things were there's the the one from Robo rock where the arm came out and it Robo rock where the arm came out and it Robo rock where the arm came out and it picked up the sock that was in the way picked up the sock that was in the way picked up the sock that was in the way um I love the desktop composter it's um I love the desktop composter it's um I love the desktop composter it's like I think Grandpa's in there yeah it's like it's there yeah it's like it's and like what happens at the end of the and like what happens at the end of the and like what happens at the end of the was come out was like a bunch of dirt was come out was like a bunch of dirt was come out was like a bunch of dirt and then what do you do with this dirt I and then what do you do with this dirt I and then what do you do with this dirt I don't know so but now there was a lot of don't know so but now there was a lot of don't know so but now there was a lot of on the consumer side there's always that on the consumer side there's always that on the consumer side there's always that stuff I think frankly the AI Tech has stuff I think frankly the AI Tech has stuff I think frankly the AI Tech has gotten a lot better where a lot of these gotten a lot better where a lot of these gotten a lot better where a lot of these ideas that were prototype years ago are ideas that were prototype years ago are ideas that were prototype years ago are better so like fridges and other things better so like fridges and other things better so like fridges and other things that are using sensor-based AI it is a that are using sensor-based AI it is a that are using sensor-based AI it is a lot better now than it used to be and lot better now than it used to be and lot better now than it used to be and probably works better yeah I even saw probably works better yeah I even saw probably works better yeah I even saw like some voice activated microwave like some voice activated microwave like some voice activated microwave ovens and stuff which generally I would ovens and stuff which generally I would ovens and stuff which generally I would say don't but um yeah some of stuff was

say don't but um yeah some of stuff was say don't but um yeah some of stuff was actually worked a lot better on the actually worked a lot better on the actually worked a lot better on the consumer side on the commercial side consumer side on the commercial side consumer side on the commercial side there's a lot of cool stuff I one of the there's a lot of cool stuff I one of the there's a lot of cool stuff I one of the cool things I saw was for municipalities cool things I saw was for municipalities cool things I saw was for municipalities where they have EV charging spots and where they have EV charging spots and where they have EV charging spots and there was a sensor that someone had there was a sensor that someone had there was a sensor that someone had built that you glue down self-contained built that you glue down self-contained built that you glue down self-contained 5-year battery life and and the car 5-year battery life and and the car 5-year battery life and and the car drove into the space it would use a drove into the space it would use a drove into the space it would use a sensor detect magnetic uh patterns and sensor detect magnetic uh patterns and sensor detect magnetic uh patterns and determine whether it was actually an EV determine whether it was actually an EV determine whether it was actually an EV or an ice vehicle and it was an ice or an ice vehicle and it was an ice or an ice vehicle and it was an ice vehicle then you know it would trigger a vehicle then you know it would trigger a vehicle then you know it would trigger a little little little lighter get them out of here Red Alert lighter get them out of here Red Alert lighter get them out of here Red Alert it was cool it's like a self-contained it was cool it's like a self-contained it was cool it's like a self-contained thing and they had figured out like how thing and they had figured out like how thing and they had figured out like how do I look at certain patterns of of of do I look at certain patterns of of of do I look at certain patterns of of of magnetic resonance and things to magnetic resonance and things to magnetic resonance and things to determine there's certain signatures of determine there's certain signatures of determine there's certain signatures of EES that they could detect and it was a EES that they could detect and it was a EES that they could detect and it was a self-contained plastic thing that you self-contained plastic thing that you self-contained plastic thing that you just glue onto the pavement um so no just glue onto the pavement um so no just glue onto the pavement um so no that's that's a small one the other one that's that's a small one the other one that's that's a small one the other one that I thought was kind of weird I think that I thought was kind of weird I think that I thought was kind of weird I think I mentioned to Leonard was there was a I mentioned to Leonard was there was a I mentioned to Leonard was there was a company that had put sensors on oysters company that had put sensors on oysters company that had put sensors on oysters uh to determine water quality and so uh to determine water quality and so uh to determine water quality and so they literally like glue sensors with they literally like glue sensors with they literally like glue sensors with wires onto a bunch of wires onto a bunch of wires onto a bunch of oysters with an underwater oysters with an underwater oysters with an underwater Gateway uh that would you know they Gateway uh that would you know they Gateway uh that would you know they basically the the patterns of of basically the the patterns of of basically the the patterns of of movement of the oysters and the movement of the oysters and the movement of the oysters and the vibration or frequency could determine vibration or frequency could determine vibration or frequency could determine how good the water quality is wow which how good the water quality is wow which how good the water quality is wow which is kind of cool but then the thing is is kind of cool but then the thing is is kind of cool but then the thing is like well who's going to glue All Those like well who's going to glue All Those like well who's going to glue All Those sensors on the oysters yeah so they they sensors on the oysters yeah so they they sensors on the oysters yeah so they they are you saying they were transforming are you saying they were transforming are you saying they were transforming oysters into sensors biological sensors

oysters into sensors biological sensors oysters into sensors biological sensors basically yeah they're biological basically yeah they're biological basically yeah they're biological sensors basically that's pretty cool it sensors basically that's pretty cool it sensors basically that's pretty cool it was pretty cool and you know so he said was pretty cool and you know so he said was pretty cool and you know so he said well you need about a couple of dozen well you need about a couple of dozen well you need about a couple of dozen oysters like to be wired up to do this oysters like to be wired up to do this oysters like to be wired up to do this and so but you know for example so like and so but you know for example so like and so but you know for example so like you know you look at different ports and you know you look at different ports and you know you look at different ports and different you know sea communities and different you know sea communities and different you know sea communities and stuff this could be an interesting stuff this could be an interesting stuff this could be an interesting that's pretty cool that's less less that's pretty cool that's less less that's pretty cool that's less less electronics recycle you eat them electronics recycle you eat them electronics recycle you eat them basically yeah they basically yeah they basically yeah they ni little lemon you know yeah a little ni little lemon you know yeah a little ni little lemon you know yeah a little lemon May create a pearl I don't know I lemon May create a pearl I don't know I lemon May create a pearl I don't know I mean who know I don't know so did Jac mean who know I don't know so did Jac mean who know I don't know so did Jac husto come up with this one no it's husto come up with this one no it's husto come up with this one no it's interesting the guy the guy this is like interesting the guy the guy this is like interesting the guy the guy this is like you know this is the fun of CES you go you know this is the fun of CES you go you know this is the fun of CES you go to one of these like you go to the to one of these like you go to the to one of these like you go to the Venetian expo hall and there's the the Venetian expo hall and there's the the Venetian expo hall and there's the the French hallway of like startup so that's French hallway of like startup so that's French hallway of like startup so that's where there was a gentleman who had been where there was a gentleman who had been where there was a gentleman who had been studying oysters for decades um and uh studying oysters for decades um and uh studying oysters for decades um and uh and you know paired up with this this and you know paired up with this this and you know paired up with this this iot company and they figured out how to iot company and they figured out how to iot company and they figured out how to do this thing so so you know for fun do this thing so so you know for fun do this thing so so you know for fun here I have some pictures of some here I have some pictures of some here I have some pictures of some ridiculous also crazy pictures of CES ridiculous also crazy pictures of CES ridiculous also crazy pictures of CES products I'm going to just share my products I'm going to just share my products I'm going to just share my screen really fast so you can you can screen really fast so you can you can screen really fast so you can you can see the silliness of some of these while see the silliness of some of these while see the silliness of some of these while while you're sharing Rob so oysters while you're sharing Rob so oysters while you're sharing Rob so oysters french guy me says like stop lemon use french guy me says like stop lemon use french guy me says like stop lemon use um Red One vinegar and chots try that um Red One vinegar and chots try that um Red One vinegar and chots try that instead of lemon that's way better oh instead of lemon that's way better oh instead of lemon that's way better oh that's good yeah listen to your matri that's good yeah listen to your matri that's good yeah listen to your matri D yes good to have a french guy on the

D yes good to have a french guy on the D yes good to have a french guy on the show it's it's imperative you know show it's it's imperative you know show it's it's imperative you know because you don't want to screw up the because you don't want to screw up the because you don't want to screw up the food all right so look at this you can food all right so look at this you can food all right so look at this you can see we have the Denso vacuum cleer see we have the Denso vacuum cleer see we have the Denso vacuum cleer presentation Mode come on man it's a presentation Mode come on man it's a presentation Mode come on man it's a it's a Word it's a Word it's a Word document hour oh my gosh it's a Word document hour oh my gosh it's a Word document hour oh my gosh it's a Word document you can't see it because you're document you can't see it because you're document you can't see it because you're at the bagio I can't see it so we have at the bagio I can't see it so we have at the bagio I can't see it so we have vacuum cleaner shoes right vacuum cleaner shoes right vacuum cleaner shoes right um here I'll I'll I'll Pump It Up Viger um here I'll I'll I'll Pump It Up Viger um here I'll I'll I'll Pump It Up Viger here there you go thank you and so when here there you go thank you and so when here there you go thank you and so when you walk around it vacuums dirt and you walk around it vacuums dirt and you walk around it vacuums dirt and stuff as you're kind of shuffling across stuff as you're kind of shuffling across stuff as you're kind of shuffling across the floor so there's a Innovation for the floor so there's a Innovation for the floor so there's a Innovation for CES and they're good looking shoes you CES and they're good looking shoes you CES and they're good looking shoes you know on the dog food though yeah oh yeah know on the dog food though yeah oh yeah know on the dog food though yeah oh yeah is that V Denso okay that explains is that V Denso okay that explains is that V Denso okay that explains it all right and then coming up next we it all right and then coming up next we it all right and then coming up next we have have have hushme and so so this is for people who hushme and so so this is for people who hushme and so so this is for people who are working like in a open Bay kind of are working like in a open Bay kind of are working like in a open Bay kind of Beyond cubicles kind of like what they Beyond cubicles kind of like what they Beyond cubicles kind of like what they did at Microsoft when they took away did at Microsoft when they took away did at Microsoft when they took away offices from everyone and just put offices from everyone and just put offices from everyone and just put everybody out there like you're working everybody out there like you're working everybody out there like you're working at the news desk or something and you're at the news desk or something and you're at the news desk or something and you're trying to have calls this will hush trying to have calls this will hush trying to have calls this will hush people and mute them while they're on people and mute them while they're on people and mute them while they're on their calls and um anyway and it's their calls and um anyway and it's their calls and um anyway and it's really attractive makes perfect sense really attractive makes perfect sense really attractive makes perfect sense yeah also Ed that in Barcelona after Co yeah also Ed that in Barcelona after Co yeah also Ed that in Barcelona after Co too yes good sign was Ashi that means we too yes good sign was Ashi that means we too yes good sign was Ashi that means we we will still have human beings talking we will still have human beings talking we will still have human beings talking on the phone it's not going to be AIS on on the phone it's not going to be AIS on on the phone it's not going to be AIS on you

you you know huge Open Spaces um you know this know huge Open Spaces um you know this know huge Open Spaces um you know this could be so people cheaper than AI I could be so people cheaper than AI I could be so people cheaper than AI I guess to operate yeah people sometimes guess to operate yeah people sometimes guess to operate yeah people sometimes are cheaper than AI there you go co are cheaper than AI there you go co are cheaper than AI there you go co coold centers are still a thing power to coold centers are still a thing power to coold centers are still a thing power to the people you've probably seen this one the people you've probably seen this one the people you've probably seen this one before this is not brand new Dyson Zone before this is not brand new Dyson Zone before this is not brand new Dyson Zone air purifying headphones and so you've air purifying headphones and so you've air purifying headphones and so you've got your music and then we're going to got your music and then we're going to got your music and then we're going to have a personal air filter in front of have a personal air filter in front of have a personal air filter in front of your face your mouth and nose I don't your face your mouth and nose I don't your face your mouth and nose I don't know what came up with that product know what came up with that product know what came up with that product that's crazy I think person using it that's crazy I think person using it that's crazy I think person using it looks uh very disturbed looks very angry looks uh very disturbed looks very angry looks uh very disturbed looks very angry and up oh yeah oh yeah can but that and up oh yeah oh yeah can but that and up oh yeah oh yeah can but that maybe that's the right thing to have at maybe that's the right thing to have at maybe that's the right thing to have at CS when you're walking in that dense CS when you're walking in that dense CS when you're walking in that dense group of people you know have that group of people you know have that group of people you know have that filtering I don't know all right let's filtering I don't know all right let's filtering I don't know all right let's move along here we only have a couple move along here we only have a couple move along here we only have a couple more the Pepe pet dryer perfect yeah oh more the Pepe pet dryer perfect yeah oh more the Pepe pet dryer perfect yeah oh my gosh if your pet kind of got out wet my gosh if your pet kind of got out wet my gosh if your pet kind of got out wet in the maybe jumped in the lake or in the maybe jumped in the lake or in the maybe jumped in the lake or you're out in the rain and you don't you're out in the rain and you don't you're out in the rain and you don't want to dry them off with a towel you want to dry them off with a towel you want to dry them off with a towel you just put them in this Cube and then hot just put them in this Cube and then hot just put them in this Cube and then hot air blows on them while they're in their air blows on them while they're in their air blows on them while they're in their prison inside a hot Cube for 25 minutes prison inside a hot Cube for 25 minutes prison inside a hot Cube for 25 minutes to try try off your dog or to try try off your dog or to try try off your dog or cat I'm sure they love this I'm sure cat I'm sure they love this I'm sure cat I'm sure they love this I'm sure pets would love this looks more like a pets would love this looks more like a pets would love this looks more like a microwav I microwav I microwav I know microwave for when you're you're know microwave for when you're you're know microwave for when you're you're done with it gosh oh my God and then the last one gosh oh my God and then the last one I've got is happy

I've got is happy I've got is happy fork and so this is for people who yeah fork and so this is for people who yeah fork and so this is for people who yeah that eat too fast and you're your that eat too fast and you're your that eat too fast and you're your stomach doesn't know you're full yet and stomach doesn't know you're full yet and stomach doesn't know you're full yet and so you just keep eating and so this so you just keep eating and so this so you just keep eating and so this thing vibrates to try to slow you down thing vibrates to try to slow you down thing vibrates to try to slow you down and to quit eating so and to quit eating so and to quit eating so fast and so uh you know does it and if fast and so uh you know does it and if fast and so uh you know does it and if you keep eating while it's still you keep eating while it's still you keep eating while it's still vibrating does it like give you a little vibrating does it like give you a little vibrating does it like give you a little uh jolt little chock it's like that's uh jolt little chock it's like that's uh jolt little chock it's like that's coming in the next Service Pack Service coming in the next Service Pack Service coming in the next Service Pack Service Pack that's remarkable I I have no idea where you remarkable I I have no idea where you got these things that's pretty amazing got these things that's pretty amazing got these things that's pretty amazing these are think I saw that you found these are think I saw that you found these are think I saw that you found your Niche these are some of the your Niche these are some of the your Niche these are some of the greatest hits from CES you know so some greatest hits from CES you know so some greatest hits from CES you know so some of past CES yeah oh really there's a lot of past CES yeah oh really there's a lot of past CES yeah oh really there's a lot of silly things out there back to of silly things out there back to of silly things out there back to Olivier it's like is there real value to Olivier it's like is there real value to Olivier it's like is there real value to these things well know it's these things well know it's these things well know it's like it's like proof that not not all like it's like proof that not not all like it's like proof that not not all Innovation is great Innovation right Innovation is great Innovation right Innovation is great Innovation right right or innovation with purpose yeah I right or innovation with purpose yeah I right or innovation with purpose yeah I would say by the way one of the cool would say by the way one of the cool would say by the way one of the cool probably the coolest consumer Booth I probably the coolest consumer Booth I probably the coolest consumer Booth I saw was Loda Booth I don't know if you saw was Loda Booth I don't know if you saw was Loda Booth I don't know if you got a chance to see that in the Venetian got a chance to see that in the Venetian got a chance to see that in the Venetian but so they they make the uh the rayb but so they they make the uh the rayb but so they they make the uh the rayb band metag glasses and oh yeah amazing band metag glasses and oh yeah amazing band metag glasses and oh yeah amazing Tech new glasses headphones built in uh Tech new glasses headphones built in uh Tech new glasses headphones built in uh just the R&D they're doing at luxotica just the R&D they're doing at luxotica just the R&D they're doing at luxotica so impressive I mean oh wow it looks so impressive I mean oh wow it looks so impressive I mean oh wow it looks like just standard glasses but just the like just standard glasses but just the like just standard glasses but just the amount of tech that's being put into amount of tech that's being put into amount of tech that's being put into these things I think that's going to be

these things I think that's going to be these things I think that's going to be you know the next five years kind of you know the next five years kind of you know the next five years kind of everyone's going to be thinking about if everyone's going to be thinking about if everyone's going to be thinking about if you're going to get new glasses why not you're going to get new glasses why not you're going to get new glasses why not get glasses that also have some get glasses that also have some get glasses that also have some more phones and things like that um and more phones and things like that um and more phones and things like that um and then you're seeing those paired up with then you're seeing those paired up with then you're seeing those paired up with you know language models to interpret you know language models to interpret you know language models to interpret what they're seeing so we saw a lot of what they're seeing so we saw a lot of what they're seeing so we saw a lot of like generative AI language models like generative AI language models like generative AI language models paired up with image sensors to say you paired up with image sensors to say you paired up with image sensors to say you know I am seeing this like it's not just know I am seeing this like it's not just know I am seeing this like it's not just a person but here's a person wearing a a person but here's a person wearing a a person but here's a person wearing a su or I'm looking at this food whatever su or I'm looking at this food whatever su or I'm looking at this food whatever and you know for people that are and you know for people that are and you know for people that are visually impaired or other impairments visually impaired or other impairments visually impaired or other impairments or just want to know more about what's or just want to know more about what's or just want to know more about what's happening um this combination of happening um this combination of happening um this combination of generative AI Transformer models Plus generative AI Transformer models Plus generative AI Transformer models Plus image sensing or any kind of sensing is image sensing or any kind of sensing is image sensing or any kind of sensing is kind of an interesting Trend yeah yeah I kind of an interesting Trend yeah yeah I kind of an interesting Trend yeah yeah I mean um there's a lot of nuances to all mean um there's a lot of nuances to all mean um there's a lot of nuances to all this stuff that doesn't necessarily this stuff that doesn't necessarily this stuff that doesn't necessarily bubble up through a surface so yeah and bubble up through a surface so yeah and bubble up through a surface so yeah and this is the thing about CEs this year um this is the thing about CEs this year um this is the thing about CEs this year um yeah it was incremental but the hyp yeah it was incremental but the hyp yeah it was incremental but the hyp wasn't right and I think that's where wasn't right and I think that's where wasn't right and I think that's where everyone gets a sense that there's everyone gets a sense that there's everyone gets a sense that there's velocity but you know what to the point velocity but you know what to the point velocity but you know what to the point that Rob that Rob that Rob made um a lot of this stuff it looks made um a lot of this stuff it looks made um a lot of this stuff it looks like we're going forward really quickly like we're going forward really quickly like we're going forward really quickly and then things go backwards very and then things go backwards very and then things go backwards very quickly so the smart home for instance quickly so the smart home for instance quickly so the smart home for instance everyone talking about Smart Homes again everyone talking about Smart Homes again everyone talking about Smart Homes again and um when you look at how far we've and um when you look at how far we've and um when you look at how far we've come it doesn't look like we've come come it doesn't look like we've come come it doesn't look like we've come that far since like 200 I would say 17

that far since like 200 I would say 17 that far since like 200 I would say 17 you know what I'm saying and these are you know what I'm saying and these are you know what I'm saying and these are the things that you notice coming here the things that you notice coming here the things that you notice coming here and getting this wide broad view of how and getting this wide broad view of how and getting this wide broad view of how things are progressing across the board things are progressing across the board things are progressing across the board and yeah AI everybody wants to get and yeah AI everybody wants to get and yeah AI everybody wants to get really excited about AI these really excited about AI these really excited about AI these Transformers models and um you know all Transformers models and um you know all Transformers models and um you know all this um you know generative and agentic this um you know generative and agentic this um you know generative and agentic stuff but you know a lot of these things stuff but you know a lot of these things stuff but you know a lot of these things have have been there before the building have have been there before the building have have been there before the building blocks people just don't know about this blocks people just don't know about this blocks people just don't know about this stuff kind of like you know these people stuff kind of like you know these people stuff kind of like you know these people who think that you know when Jensen hang who think that you know when Jensen hang who think that you know when Jensen hang jumped on stap with the big old GPU jumped on stap with the big old GPU jumped on stap with the big old GPU Shield that oh hey um Nvidia just Shield that oh hey um Nvidia just Shield that oh hey um Nvidia just introduced the do wafer introduced the do wafer introduced the do wafer scale GPU right I like no no that's not scale GPU right I like no no that's not scale GPU right I like no no that's not that's not it number one Wafers don't that's not it number one Wafers don't that's not it number one Wafers don't get that big um it just people just go get that big um it just people just go get that big um it just people just go nuts over things that um they don't nuts over things that um they don't nuts over things that um they don't understand and didn't really um do their understand and didn't really um do their understand and didn't really um do their homework on so you know like I obviously homework on so you know like I obviously homework on so you know like I obviously I'm not an an analyst of the he's not an I'm not an an analyst of the he's not an I'm not an an analyst of the he's not an analyst folks stop paying stop giving analyst folks stop paying stop giving analyst folks stop paying stop giving him money he's not an him money he's not an him money he's not an analyst yes I'm much more than that analyst yes I'm much more than that analyst yes I'm much more than that that's true Rob thank you sorry you know no no no actually maybe sorry you know no no no actually maybe he's pointing out that I've graduated he's pointing out that I've graduated he's pointing out that I've graduated from analyst and I might compur with from analyst and I might compur with from analyst and I might compur with them but um yeah you know it's it's not

them but um yeah you know it's it's not them but um yeah you know it's it's not really a healthy thing because you do really a healthy thing because you do really a healthy thing because you do bump into companies that are doing bump into companies that are doing bump into companies that are doing really interesting things and are are in really interesting things and are are in really interesting things and are are in a very beneficial way sort of um moving a very beneficial way sort of um moving a very beneficial way sort of um moving things along that incremental curve and things along that incremental curve and things along that incremental curve and they get no attention you know and so they get no attention you know and so they get no attention you know and so this whole sucking it up of the oxygen this whole sucking it up of the oxygen this whole sucking it up of the oxygen type of stuff that happens with the hype type of stuff that happens with the hype type of stuff that happens with the hype you really you really you really see the dynamic and the impact that it see the dynamic and the impact that it see the dynamic and the impact that it has but I I think you what AI is going has but I I think you what AI is going has but I I think you what AI is going to prove itself in all the you know sort to prove itself in all the you know sort to prove itself in all the you know sort of hype forms that it gets represented of hype forms that it gets represented of hype forms that it gets represented as here at CES it's going to uh be as here at CES it's going to uh be as here at CES it's going to uh be proven to be very ancillary as it always proven to be very ancillary as it always proven to be very ancillary as it always has been it's an augmenting Technologies has been it's an augmenting Technologies has been it's an augmenting Technologies even know people want to make it four even know people want to make it four even know people want to make it four thing it isn't even in iot right when thing it isn't even in iot right when thing it isn't even in iot right when you look at the systems that are enabled you look at the systems that are enabled you look at the systems that are enabled by iot and this whole notion of by iot and this whole notion of by iot and this whole notion of aiot it's still it's that um an bit aiot it's still it's that um an bit aiot it's still it's that um an bit especially you know across the edge and especially you know across the edge and especially you know across the edge and when it gets into the cloud I mean you when it gets into the cloud I mean you when it gets into the cloud I mean you know that's like business analytics and know that's like business analytics and know that's like business analytics and maybe you can do some orchestration and maybe you can do some orchestration and maybe you can do some orchestration and you know decision making but um it it it you know decision making but um it it it you know decision making but um it it it becomes a an augmenting factor in things becomes a an augmenting factor in things becomes a an augmenting factor in things that already exist that have done like that already exist that have done like that already exist that have done like 90% of what you want it to do you know 90% of what you want it to do you know 90% of what you want it to do you know what I'm saying it it's not it's not what I'm saying it it's not it's not what I'm saying it it's not it's not going to get you to another 200 300% going to get you to another 200 300% going to get you to another 200 300% capability it's going to close that gap

capability it's going to close that gap capability it's going to close that gap between 90% And between 90% And between 90% And 95% right beyond beyond capabilities and 95% right beyond beyond capabilities and 95% right beyond beyond capabilities and I think there's there's a a a a lot of I think there's there's a a a a lot of I think there's there's a a a a lot of new scenarios that are opened up like AI new scenarios that are opened up like AI new scenarios that are opened up like AI especially Ai and you know I think especially Ai and you know I think especially Ai and you know I think Pete's focus and and and others focus is Pete's focus and and and others focus is Pete's focus and and and others focus is is important because you know you think is important because you know you think is important because you know you think about AI at the edge it's to me it's not about AI at the edge it's to me it's not about AI at the edge it's to me it's not just going to be you know augmenting or just going to be you know augmenting or just going to be you know augmenting or enhancing performance of existing things enhancing performance of existing things enhancing performance of existing things but will open up for new scenarios um but will open up for new scenarios um but will open up for new scenarios um that will save money save energy save um that will save money save energy save um that will save money save energy save um you know or make things more safe but you know or make things more safe but you know or make things more safe but also say hey this one thing that used to also say hey this one thing that used to also say hey this one thing that used to do one thing not can do three things um do one thing not can do three things um do one thing not can do three things um and and then also we are we are going and and then also we are we are going and and then also we are we are going towards place where I think the the towards place where I think the the towards place where I think the the there's a big bottleneck today with AI there's a big bottleneck today with AI there's a big bottleneck today with AI at the Ed which is everything has to run at the Ed which is everything has to run at the Ed which is everything has to run on a big Gateway or like or even in the on a big Gateway or like or even in the on a big Gateway or like or even in the cloud and and so you have a single point cloud and and so you have a single point cloud and and so you have a single point of failure on systems that are pretty of failure on systems that are pretty of failure on systems that are pretty expensive or or costly when they stop expensive or or costly when they stop expensive or or costly when they stop and so people are reluctant I've heard and so people are reluctant I've heard and so people are reluctant I've heard people especially in in in uh in people especially in in in uh in people especially in in in uh in manufacturing they're saying I'm not manufacturing they're saying I'm not manufacturing they're saying I'm not putting like all my system onto one putting like all my system onto one putting like all my system onto one single big black box I want to single big black box I want to single big black box I want to distribute that intelligence and you distribute that intelligence and you distribute that intelligence and you need to have more down there so this is need to have more down there so this is need to have more down there so this is where it's going and this is where it's where it's going and this is where it's where it's going and this is where it's going to add the value we're looking for

going to add the value we're looking for going to add the value we're looking for yeah right right and but yeah you're yeah right right and but yeah you're yeah right right and but yeah you're right and I think AI has impact at right and I think AI has impact at right and I think AI has impact at different levels it's usually um it's uh different levels it's usually um it's uh different levels it's usually um it's uh impactful in dis aggregated way so in impactful in dis aggregated way so in impactful in dis aggregated way so in for an individual function it might for an individual function it might for an individual function it might actually do exactly what we're talking actually do exactly what we're talking actually do exactly what we're talking about LBA create a new case ability about LBA create a new case ability about LBA create a new case ability might be for multif but in this is what might be for multif but in this is what might be for multif but in this is what I've noticed the cost and whether it's I've noticed the cost and whether it's I've noticed the cost and whether it's the ran or it's the you know data center the ran or it's the you know data center the ran or it's the you know data center or what have you in aggregate the or what have you in aggregate the or what have you in aggregate the benefit ends up being much smaller than benefit ends up being much smaller than benefit ends up being much smaller than what you might see at a pro you know what you might see at a pro you know what you might see at a pro you know like a function or something like that like a function or something like that like a function or something like that you know it's weird it's weird it's you know it's weird it's weird it's you know it's weird it's weird it's something that I just noticed across the something that I just noticed across the something that I just noticed across the board board board yeah so we can get excited about how a yeah so we can get excited about how a yeah so we can get excited about how a function gets you know sort of force function gets you know sort of force function gets you know sort of force multiplied but but when you start to multiplied but but when you start to multiplied but but when you start to bring it up at to up to a system level bring it up at to up to a system level bring it up at to up to a system level that benefit gets diluted um and it's that benefit gets diluted um and it's that benefit gets diluted um and it's just a it's just a it seems to be just a it's just a it seems to be just a it's just a it seems to be a you know like sort of that law of a you know like sort of that law of a you know like sort of that law of diminishing turns you you take you know diminishing turns you you take you know diminishing turns you you take you know functionable benefits and then you bring functionable benefits and then you bring functionable benefits and then you bring it up to and then you expose it to it up to and then you expose it to it up to and then you expose it to system complexity you know what I'm system complexity you know what I'm system complexity you know what I'm saying now all of a sudden that benefit saying now all of a sudden that benefit saying now all of a sudden that benefit starts to either get deluded or starts to either get deluded or starts to either get deluded or diminished I don't know it's a weird diminished I don't know it's a weird diminished I don't know it's a weird dynamic I think also like to Olivier's dynamic I think also like to Olivier's dynamic I think also like to Olivier's point it was like some of the ideas that point it was like some of the ideas that point it was like some of the ideas that people have had in the past where they people have had in the past where they people have had in the past where they tried to do things like with vision AI tried to do things like with vision AI tried to do things like with vision AI or you know AI Vision where they're or you know AI Vision where they're or you know AI Vision where they're using kind of just CNN models which have

using kind of just CNN models which have using kind of just CNN models which have limitations you know it didn't work that limitations you know it didn't work that limitations you know it didn't work that well and yeah and so it didn't reach well and yeah and so it didn't reach well and yeah and so it didn't reach that functional threshold where was even that functional threshold where was even that functional threshold where was even worth doing and I think now first of all worth doing and I think now first of all worth doing and I think now first of all the the CNN's are better the sensors are the the CNN's are better the sensors are the the CNN's are better the sensors are better but then using like generative AI better but then using like generative AI better but then using like generative AI to interpret the cnns and what what you to interpret the cnns and what what you to interpret the cnns and what what you know what the vision sensors are doing know what the vision sensors are doing know what the vision sensors are doing like in this kind of idea of like a like in this kind of idea of like a like in this kind of idea of like a fridge that knows what your groceries fridge that knows what your groceries fridge that knows what your groceries are like that actually works a lot are like that actually works a lot are like that actually works a lot better now than it did even a few years better now than it did even a few years better now than it did even a few years ago and you know may have reached that ago and you know may have reached that ago and you know may have reached that functional threshold where it's like you functional threshold where it's like you functional threshold where it's like you know it's actually worth buying now know it's actually worth buying now know it's actually worth buying now because it actually does work um so I because it actually does work um so I because it actually does work um so I think we're going to see AI you know think we're going to see AI you know think we're going to see AI you know make some of these original ideas where make some of these original ideas where make some of these original ideas where kind of kooky and you know good ideas kind of kooky and you know good ideas kind of kooky and you know good ideas maybe that didn't work well because the maybe that didn't work well because the maybe that didn't work well because the tech just wasn't there the tech is now tech just wasn't there the tech is now tech just wasn't there the tech is now getting to the point where actually some getting to the point where actually some getting to the point where actually some of this stuff's working pretty well so I of this stuff's working pretty well so I of this stuff's working pretty well so I think we'll start to see it more think we'll start to see it more think we'll start to see it more mainstreamed you know I think Jensen mainstreamed you know I think Jensen mainstreamed you know I think Jensen said something like that take a cooky said something like that take a cooky said something like that take a cooky idea that didn't work that well but if idea that didn't work that well but if idea that didn't work that well but if you buy a you buy a you buy a Blackwell especially like the big Blackwell especially like the big Blackwell especially like the big Blackwell cluster thing and there's a Blackwell cluster thing and there's a Blackwell cluster thing and there's a button on there that says Force button on there that says Force button on there that says Force multiplier and you push the button on it multiplier and you push the button on it multiplier and you push the button on it cooky stuff turns to Magic and you know cooky stuff turns to Magic and you know cooky stuff turns to Magic and you know it could save your startup it's going to it could save your startup it's going to it could save your startup it's going to cost you a few dollars though um well I cost you a few dollars though um well I cost you a few dollars though um well I think the other point Leonard was making think the other point Leonard was making think the other point Leonard was making in Rob was referencing this is the in Rob was referencing this is the in Rob was referencing this is the there's a lot more business focus on AI there's a lot more business focus on AI there's a lot more business focus on AI and and and business and even like consumer just P business and even like consumer just P business and even like consumer just P you know Publications and press on AI you know Publications and press on AI you know Publications and press on AI where they're maybe like kind of just where they're maybe like kind of just where they're maybe like kind of just kind of believing the hype and not kind of believing the hype and not kind of believing the hype and not really fully gring yeah I mean you know really fully gring yeah I mean you know really fully gring yeah I mean you know like the biggest uh I guess it was the

like the biggest uh I guess it was the like the biggest uh I guess it was the LA U the laughing stock of CVS this year LA U the laughing stock of CVS this year LA U the laughing stock of CVS this year is the rabbit how everybody went Bonkers is the rabbit how everybody went Bonkers is the rabbit how everybody went Bonkers over the rabbit last year oh last year over the rabbit last year oh last year over the rabbit last year oh last year yeah and then you know all these little yeah and then you know all these little yeah and then you know all these little what was it the the Humane pin and stuff what was it the the Humane pin and stuff what was it the the Humane pin and stuff like that how did that turn out I mean like that how did that turn out I mean like that how did that turn out I mean you know I I hate to say it um you know you know I I hate to say it um you know you know I I hate to say it um you know Rob yes you're right I am not an analyst Rob yes you're right I am not an analyst Rob yes you're right I am not an analyst because of a lot of analyst they just because of a lot of analyst they just because of a lot of analyst they just read P releases and then they just end read P releases and then they just end read P releases and then they just end up investing the hype they don't ask up investing the hype they don't ask up investing the hype they don't ask tough questions that's what I do and I tough questions that's what I do and I tough questions that's what I do and I see stuff that a lot of people don't see stuff that a lot of people don't see stuff that a lot of people don't that's why out a track record the track that's why out a track record the track that's why out a track record the track record and reputation that that I have record and reputation that that I have record and reputation that that I have um and I'm telling you I hear a lot of um and I'm telling you I hear a lot of um and I'm telling you I hear a lot of stuff that is so you know disconnected stuff that is so you know disconnected stuff that is so you know disconnected from the height that we see on these from the height that we see on these from the height that we see on these stages here at CVS is not even funny so stages here at CVS is not even funny so stages here at CVS is not even funny so um yeah you know we'll see what happens um yeah you know we'll see what happens um yeah you know we'll see what happens with the the AI stuff but there's just with the the AI stuff but there's just with the the AI stuff but there's just so much to be deflated yeah um I mean so much to be deflated yeah um I mean so much to be deflated yeah um I mean you know if you're into sex industry and you know if you're into sex industry and you know if you're into sex industry and you're you like sex robots I guess you you're you like sex robots I guess you you're you like sex robots I guess you know there's been some pretty nice know there's been some pretty nice know there's been some pretty nice advancements there there's one span that advancements there there's one span that advancements there there's one span that got a lot of attention in the iot got a lot of attention in the iot got a lot of attention in the iot ITI all right I didn't go to I I dropped ITI all right I didn't go to I I dropped ITI all right I didn't go to I I dropped I spoke to cover FR that was like the I spoke to cover FR that was like the I spoke to cover FR that was like the first thing they showed me I'm like okay first thing they showed me I'm like okay first thing they showed me I'm like okay well you know that I guess that makes a well you know that I guess that makes a well you know that I guess that makes a lot of sense um right whole thing is a lot of sense um right whole thing is a lot of sense um right whole thing is a hallucination anyway so yeah it's

hallucination anyway so yeah it's hallucination anyway so yeah it's a you know I was gonna I was gonna make a you know I was gonna I was gonna make a you know I was gonna I was gonna make an Invidia comment but before I can make an Invidia comment but before I can make an Invidia comment but before I can make it I have to say hey folks just so you it I have to say hey folks just so you it I have to say hey folks just so you know this show is for entertainment only know this show is for entertainment only know this show is for entertainment only and this is not stock advice or anything and this is not stock advice or anything and this is not stock advice or anything what i f found interesting is the day what i f found interesting is the day what i f found interesting is the day before leading up to jenson's Keynote at before leading up to jenson's Keynote at before leading up to jenson's Keynote at CES the Nvidia stock got as high as CES the Nvidia stock got as high as CES the Nvidia stock got as high as 155 and right now it is now down to 134 what is that all about well actually 134 what is that all about well actually I kind of know what some of it's all I I kind of know what some of it's all I I kind of know what some of it's all I mean some you know is that like trade mean some you know is that like trade mean some you know is that like trade the news sell the news whatever I don't the news sell the news whatever I don't the news sell the news whatever I don't know know know there was a lot of hype leading up to it there was a lot of hype leading up to it there was a lot of hype leading up to it and people are excited and and and what and people are excited and and and what and people are excited and and and what he showed looked like a magical future he showed looked like a magical future he showed looked like a magical future there is some other news though about there is some other news though about there is some other news though about more restrictions on exporting some of more restrictions on exporting some of more restrictions on exporting some of this stuff to a lot of a lot more this stuff to a lot of a lot more this stuff to a lot of a lot more countries than just China and so I know countries than just China and so I know countries than just China and so I know that's probably taking a lot of the air that's probably taking a lot of the air that's probably taking a lot of the air out of the stock price yeah yeah yeah out of the stock price yeah yeah yeah out of the stock price yeah yeah yeah one of the things that was a hot topic one of the things that was a hot topic one of the things that was a hot topic was digits the digits box that was kind was digits the digits box that was kind was digits the digits box that was kind of cool I saw a lot of hype on that of cool I saw a lot of hype on that of cool I saw a lot of hype on that saying oh it's the next co-pilot PC or saying oh it's the next co-pilot PC or saying oh it's the next co-pilot PC or it's this then I'm like no it's not it's it's this then I'm like no it's not it's it's this then I'm like no it's not it's it's a the it's a the it's a the cool so it's kind of like a middle cool so it's kind of like a middle cool so it's kind of like a middle finger to the the mpu and the the aipc finger to the the mpu and the the aipc finger to the the mpu and the the aipc you know it's like um I me Jensen's been you know it's like um I me Jensen's been you know it's like um I me Jensen's been saying for a long time aipc well we have saying for a long time aipc well we have saying for a long time aipc well we have millions of them and they run RTX or millions of them and they run RTX or millions of them and they run RTX or whatever you know yeah so their their

whatever you know yeah so their their whatever you know yeah so their their whole attitude is you know you know whole attitude is you know you know whole attitude is you know you know we've already had you don't need a mpu we've already had you don't need a mpu we've already had you don't need a mpu so yeah well I thought the digits thing so yeah well I thought the digits thing so yeah well I thought the digits thing was more of like stealing like Dev time was more of like stealing like Dev time was more of like stealing like Dev time share from the hyperscalers so it's like share from the hyperscalers so it's like share from the hyperscalers so it's like instead of buying Azure credits to do instead of buying Azure credits to do instead of buying Azure credits to do your AI Dev or AWS credits do your AI your AI Dev or AWS credits do your AI your AI Dev or AWS credits do your AI Dev just buy this box from us do your AI Dev just buy this box from us do your AI Dev just buy this box from us do your AI Dev on your on your desktop and then Dev on your on your desktop and then Dev on your on your desktop and then deploy it to your Nvidia friendly cloud deploy it to your Nvidia friendly cloud deploy it to your Nvidia friendly cloud and you don't need use the hyperscalers and you don't need use the hyperscalers and you don't need use the hyperscalers so like it was a workaround or an end so like it was a workaround or an end so like it was a workaround or an end run around the hyperscalers in terms of run around the hyperscalers in terms of run around the hyperscalers in terms of AI development AI development AI development yeah supercharged Intel Nook you know is yeah supercharged Intel Nook you know is yeah supercharged Intel Nook you know is and it yeah and he's like who are you and it yeah and he's like who are you and it yeah and he's like who are you going to trust with AI some of these going to trust with AI some of these going to trust with AI some of these hyperscalers who are just gravy training hyperscalers who are just gravy training hyperscalers who are just gravy training off of our technology or you want to go off of our technology or you want to go off of our technology or you want to go to the source you know into the Matrix to the source you know into the Matrix to the source you know into the Matrix with Jensen then and then someone will with Jensen then and then someone will with Jensen then and then someone will ask the question so this thing has to ask the question so this thing has to ask the question so this thing has to run some form of host OS to run all run some form of host OS to run all run some form of host OS to run all these virtualized things and who's going these virtualized things and who's going these virtualized things and who's going to operate that host OS and guess what to operate that host OS and guess what to operate that host OS and guess what it's going to be hyp scalers it's going to be hyp scalers it's going to be hyp scalers again again again yeah always a pendulum right digits will yeah always a pendulum right digits will yeah always a pendulum right digits will ever get commercialized it's just going ever get commercialized it's just going ever get commercialized it's just going to be a Dev box no one's going to to be a Dev box no one's going to to be a Dev box no one's going to commercialize it because it's not at commercialize it because it's not at commercialize it because it's not at some point in the last several months some point in the last several months some point in the last several months didn't Jensen allude to the notion that didn't Jensen allude to the notion that didn't Jensen allude to the notion that maybe they could build their own maybe they could build their own maybe they could build their own cloud well they th by proxy right I mean cloud well they th by proxy right I mean cloud well they th by proxy right I mean they with the like really build a clout they with the like really build a clout they with the like really build a clout they maybe they have a troll horse in they maybe they have a troll horse in they maybe they have a troll horse in know the gpus to so to the hyperscalers

know the gpus to so to the hyperscalers know the gpus to so to the hyperscalers and so they're going to take over all and so they're going to take over all and so they're going to take over all the data centers from AWS and Azure and the data centers from AWS and Azure and the data centers from AWS and Azure and Google because they're already there Google because they're already there Google because they're already there right right right the high margin workloads will run on the high margin workloads will run on the high margin workloads will run on Nvidia yeah um look at cor weave look at Nvidia yeah um look at cor weave look at Nvidia yeah um look at cor weave look at vulture I mean some of these folks vulture I mean some of these folks vulture I mean some of these folks they're really they're really they're really inidia and that's kind of their route to inidia and that's kind of their route to inidia and that's kind of their route to Market in addition to the hyperscalers Market in addition to the hyperscalers Market in addition to the hyperscalers too there there is no such thing as a too there there is no such thing as a too there there is no such thing as a high margin high margin high margin workload um all of it loses money I mean workload um all of it loses money I mean workload um all of it loses money I mean come on guys this is come on guys this is come on guys this is why bucks that's got to be some margin why bucks that's got to be some margin why bucks that's got to be some margin in there in there in there uh no I mean see here I mean and this is uh no I mean see here I mean and this is uh no I mean see here I mean and this is the problem right um no it's there are the problem right um no it's there are the problem right um no it's there are there is what you're telling your there is what you're telling your there is what you're telling your customers Leonard there's no such thing customers Leonard there's no such thing customers Leonard there's no such thing as a high margin workload that's a as a high margin workload that's a as a high margin workload that's a pretty wide blanket statement there bro pretty wide blanket statement there bro pretty wide blanket statement there bro there is no I mean but but that's the there is no I mean but but that's the there is no I mean but but that's the misconception I I mean and also just misconception I I mean and also just misconception I I mean and also just quit the maybe maybe yeah maybe people quit the maybe maybe yeah maybe people quit the maybe maybe yeah maybe people should the here's the thing there's two should the here's the thing there's two should the here's the thing there's two different types of of different types of of different types of of mainstream uses of generative AI mainstream uses of generative AI mainstream uses of generative AI supercomputing one is what we see supercomputing one is what we see supercomputing one is what we see through uh the hypers skit hyperscalers through uh the hypers skit hyperscalers through uh the hypers skit hyperscalers right hyperscalers meaning the metas the right hyperscalers meaning the metas the right hyperscalers meaning the metas the uh the a the Amazon okay not AWS Amazon uh the a the Amazon okay not AWS Amazon uh the a the Amazon okay not AWS Amazon that we see with Google these guys and that we see with Google these guys and that we see with Google these guys and apple actually is a apple actually is a apple actually is a hyperscaler they're going to be using uh

hyperscaler they're going to be using uh hyperscaler they're going to be using uh their own custom silicon to completely their own custom silicon to completely their own custom silicon to completely reduce the cost of something that is reduce the cost of something that is reduce the cost of something that is literally just cost it's not a it's not literally just cost it's not a it's not literally just cost it's not a it's not a it's not creative to margins at all a it's not creative to margins at all a it's not creative to margins at all it's all cost and then you have the guys it's all cost and then you have the guys it's all cost and then you have the guys that are model build you know model that are model build you know model that are model build you know model building that are running off of Nvidia building that are running off of Nvidia building that are running off of Nvidia gpus they're not making money out off gpus they're not making money out off gpus they're not making money out off any of that stuff either that's all cost any of that stuff either that's all cost any of that stuff either that's all cost so you know when we talk about margin we so you know when we talk about margin we so you know when we talk about margin we have to be very clear about what we're have to be very clear about what we're have to be very clear about what we're talking about here and you look at talking about here and you look at talking about here and you look at across all the Gen supercomputing across all the Gen supercomputing across all the Gen supercomputing applications out there most of those are applications out there most of those are applications out there most of those are are are factors in cost in a are are factors in cost in a are are factors in cost in a business right and so these are like the business right and so these are like the business right and so these are like the fundamental misconceptions about what's fundamental misconceptions about what's fundamental misconceptions about what's happening right now and and that's why happening right now and and that's why happening right now and and that's why the question of where is the the question of where is the the question of where is the money is such a big deal right now and money is such a big deal right now and money is such a big deal right now and that can't be getting kicked down the that can't be getting kicked down the that can't be getting kicked down the road right well the road right well the road right well the other so that that's the that's why you other so that that's the that's why you other so that that's the that's why you don't hear me going around pedling a don't hear me going around pedling a don't hear me going around pedling a bunch of generative AI supercomputing bunch of generative AI supercomputing bunch of generative AI supercomputing right but the the other issue right but the the other issue right but the the other issue is Leonard as you mentioned is the the is Leonard as you mentioned is the the is Leonard as you mentioned is the the big cost these days is training so the big cost these days is training so the big cost these days is training so the training is like aeven generating cost training is like aeven generating cost training is like aeven generating cost huge cost inferencing is actually the huge cost inferencing is actually the huge cost inferencing is actually the revenue generating part is the revenue generating part is the revenue generating part is the inferencing part and the inferencing is inferencing part and the inferencing is inferencing part and the inferencing is frankly moving to the edge as

frankly moving to the edge as frankly moving to the edge as much um right sometimes it's getting much um right sometimes it's getting much um right sometimes it's getting monetized just buying a box and running monetized just buying a box and running monetized just buying a box and running it and so the hyperscalers are eating it it and so the hyperscalers are eating it it and so the hyperscalers are eating it by training this stuff on the cloud and by training this stuff on the cloud and by training this stuff on the cloud and then the inferencing is happen I mean then the inferencing is happen I mean then the inferencing is happen I mean come on man you got like guys like Elon come on man you got like guys like Elon come on man you got like guys like Elon and and um even Jensen getting up on and and um even Jensen getting up on and and um even Jensen getting up on stage and say words you stage and say words you stage and say words you know who G to make money in all this know who G to make money in all this know who G to make money in all this stuff and they don't really have a great stuff and they don't really have a great stuff and they don't really have a great answer in fact some of them a lot of answer in fact some of them a lot of answer in fact some of them a lot of them just say I don't know people will them just say I don't know people will them just say I don't know people will figure it out that's figure it out that's figure it out that's collect Jensen did talk about collect Jensen did talk about collect Jensen did talk about inferencing importance with this notion inferencing importance with this notion inferencing importance with this notion of physical AI hece that right yeah yeah of physical AI hece that right yeah yeah of physical AI hece that right yeah yeah which is I think great because actually which is I think great because actually which is I think great because actually one of the things I want to mention is I one of the things I want to mention is I one of the things I want to mention is I was in urea Park yesterday and you do was in urea Park yesterday and you do was in urea Park yesterday and you do hear a lot about hear a lot about hear a lot about Jetson um you don't hear any many of the Jetson um you don't hear any many of the Jetson um you don't hear any many of the startups working off of let's say you startups working off of let's say you startups working off of let's say you know facom stuff or Intel stuff or know facom stuff or Intel stuff or know facom stuff or Intel stuff or anyone else's stuff you do hear a lot of anyone else's stuff you do hear a lot of anyone else's stuff you do hear a lot of well but that's that's the Nvidia Cuda well but that's that's the Nvidia Cuda well but that's that's the Nvidia Cuda ecosystem like all AI projects start on ecosystem like all AI projects start on ecosystem like all AI projects start on the cloud you know yeah and then they the cloud you know yeah and then they the cloud you know yeah and then they migrate to the edge when they get migrate to the edge when they get migrate to the edge when they get commercialized and then the default is commercialized and then the default is commercialized and then the default is NVIDIA but then it's like wow that's NVIDIA but then it's like wow that's NVIDIA but then it's like wow that's really expensive and it uses a lot of really expensive and it uses a lot of really expensive and it uses a lot of power so then it's like well let me move power so then it's like well let me move power so then it's like well let me move it to Qualcomm Snapdragon and then it to Qualcomm Snapdragon and then it to Qualcomm Snapdragon and then you're like oh that's yeah and and well you're like oh that's yeah and and well you're like oh that's yeah and and well but then that also starts to get a but then that also starts to get a but then that also starts to get a little bit easier as well as you get little bit easier as well as you get little bit easier as well as you get down to the edge um you have a lot more

down to the edge um you have a lot more down to the edge um you have a lot more choices choices choices got onx and other ways yeah but it's expensive and it's ways yeah but it's expensive and it's necessarily A commercialized you know necessarily A commercialized you know necessarily A commercialized you know the way you want to commercialize yeah the way you want to commercialize yeah the way you want to commercialize yeah but for one more of these like let's say but for one more of these like let's say but for one more of these like let's say uh Advanced uh Advanced uh Advanced robotic um robotic um robotic um systems and systems and systems and products it's basically going to capture products it's basically going to capture products it's basically going to capture it looks like he's going to capture the it looks like he's going to capture the it looks like he's going to capture the premium right yeah the question is yeah premium right yeah the question is yeah premium right yeah the question is yeah you know how basic are these things are you know how basic are these things are you know how basic are these things are going to be uh and how how quickly will going to be uh and how how quickly will going to be uh and how how quickly will this Market grow and will will it be big this Market grow and will will it be big this Market grow and will will it be big enough to to offset all the cost that's enough to to offset all the cost that's enough to to offset all the cost that's going into an investment that's going going into an investment that's going going into an investment that's going into these super Computing data centers into these super Computing data centers into these super Computing data centers that are losing money for everybody that are losing money for everybody that are losing money for everybody except for one company you know it's except for one company you know it's except for one company you know it's true it's a it's a business even true it's a it's a business even true it's a it's a business even for the oems and people don't talk about for the oems and people don't talk about for the oems and people don't talk about that much it's you know what much more that much it's you know what much more that much it's you know what much more profitable for OEM the old stuff you go profitable for OEM the old stuff you go profitable for OEM the old stuff you go go into supercomputing guess what your go into supercomputing guess what your go into supercomputing guess what your margins start to get impacted how many margins start to get impacted how many margins start to get impacted how many people know people know people know that not a about old stuff like if this that not a about old stuff like if this that not a about old stuff like if this then then then that or like do that too is it you rob that or like do that too is it you rob that or like do that too is it you rob that made that Blasphemous comment that made that Blasphemous comment that made that Blasphemous comment linkon about the fact that um you know linkon about the fact that um you know linkon about the fact that um you know so like SAA said that AI would be

so like SAA said that AI would be so like SAA said that AI would be replacing and then you say oh but replacing and then you say oh but replacing and then you say oh but actually uh isn't AI software sold as a actually uh isn't AI software sold as a actually uh isn't AI software sold as a service yeah it turns out lots of people service yeah it turns out lots of people service yeah it turns out lots of people out there in the internets aren't that out there in the internets aren't that out there in the internets aren't that smart and there most people are just smart and there most people are just smart and there most people are just sheep as my wife reminds me most people sheep as my wife reminds me most people sheep as my wife reminds me most people are sheep and they just kind of go with are sheep and they just kind of go with are sheep and they just kind of go with whatever they're told lots of semi-smart whatever they're told lots of semi-smart whatever they're told lots of semi-smart people parrot things that they hear from people parrot things that they hear from people parrot things that they hear from other semi-smart people and then pretty other semi-smart people and then pretty other semi-smart people and then pretty soon they're all saying it that like by soon they're all saying it that like by soon they're all saying it that like by mid last summer every CEO was saying mid last summer every CEO was saying mid last summer every CEO was saying agentic ai agentic ai you know like they agentic ai agentic ai you know like they agentic ai agentic ai you know like they don't even know what they're saying but don't even know what they're saying but don't even know what they're saying but they saying yes so Satia is saying sass they saying yes so Satia is saying sass they saying yes so Satia is saying sass is dead and then you're right I was like is dead and then you're right I was like is dead and then you're right I was like well have what do you think you're doing well have what do you think you're doing well have what do you think you're doing when you're interacting using Claude to when you're interacting using Claude to when you're interacting using Claude to talk to anthropic or chbt to talk to talk to anthropic or chbt to talk to talk to anthropic or chbt to talk to open API oh it's a SAS offering you're open API oh it's a SAS offering you're open API oh it's a SAS offering you're paying a subscription and there's an API paying a subscription and there's an API paying a subscription and there's an API and Magic's happening it's it's an and Magic's happening it's it's an and Magic's happening it's it's an evolution of well it's it's a new name evolution of well it's it's a new name evolution of well it's it's a new name it's an evolution yes like AI is AI is it's an evolution yes like AI is AI is it's an evolution yes like AI is AI is is a set of Technology about like smart is a set of Technology about like smart is a set of Technology about like smart software it's like the enhancements of software it's like the enhancements of software it's like the enhancements of software through you know new techniques software through you know new techniques software through you know new techniques uh new methods new hardware it's an uh new methods new hardware it's an uh new methods new hardware it's an evolution and maybe that's that's where evolution and maybe that's that's where evolution and maybe that's that's where the you know the um the hype is becoming the you know the um the hype is becoming the you know the um the hype is becoming people are realizing that uh you know people are realizing that uh you know people are realizing that uh you know the progress is iterative because it's the progress is iterative because it's the progress is iterative because it's the same thing it's just the same thing the same thing it's just the same thing the same thing it's just the same thing that's evolving like the that's evolving like the that's evolving like the blog same old the new old thing or blog same old the new old thing or blog same old the new old thing or whatever um yeah so even when we go to

whatever um yeah so even when we go to whatever um yeah so even when we go to full agentic aai Olivia are working on full agentic aai Olivia are working on full agentic aai Olivia are working on that software right now I think we're that software right now I think we're that software right now I think we're going to have a an MVP out on by Monday going to have a an MVP out on by Monday going to have a an MVP out on by Monday of our antic AI platform that we wrote of our antic AI platform that we wrote of our antic AI platform that we wrote in Visual in Visual in Visual Basic Basic Basic but and so people are like well you know but and so people are like well you know but and so people are like well you know SAS is about you know seat licenses and SAS is about you know seat licenses and SAS is about you know seat licenses and people paying whatever and that kind of people paying whatever and that kind of people paying whatever and that kind of thing I was like think about it you're thing I was like think about it you're thing I was like think about it you're going to build this agent so imagine a going to build this agent so imagine a going to build this agent so imagine a background process spinning up a thread background process spinning up a thread background process spinning up a thread and it's alive and it's like probably in and it's alive and it's like probably in and it's alive and it's like probably in while loop or something looking for what while loop or something looking for what while loop or something looking for what to do and it's got instructions of how to do and it's got instructions of how to do and it's got instructions of how it's supposed to behave because remember it's supposed to behave because remember it's supposed to behave because remember it's your new employee as we've heard uh it's your new employee as we've heard uh it's your new employee as we've heard uh and it's going to come on you're going and it's going to come on you're going and it's going to come on you're going to on board your new agent employee and to on board your new agent employee and to on board your new agent employee and then it's you're going to have tasks then it's you're going to have tasks then it's you're going to have tasks this employee does whatever job and it's this employee does whatever job and it's this employee does whatever job and it's going to interface with people but the going to interface with people but the going to interface with people but the agent itself doesn't necessarily have an agent itself doesn't necessarily have an agent itself doesn't necessarily have an llm and all that knowledge in the agent llm and all that knowledge in the agent llm and all that knowledge in the agent just like all software you have just like all software you have just like all software you have dependencies in order to get services to dependencies in order to get services to dependencies in order to get services to do things for you and so those agents do things for you and so those agents do things for you and so those agents are going to all be spinning up at your are going to all be spinning up at your are going to all be spinning up at your company and they're going to use a SAS company and they're going to use a SAS company and they're going to use a SAS connection to an llm somewhere for the connection to an llm somewhere for the connection to an llm somewhere for the magic to happen or even an slm and or or magic to happen or even an slm and or or magic to happen or even an slm and or or lbm or I don't know anyway I'm just lbm or I don't know anyway I'm just lbm or I don't know anyway I'm just making up stuff here they will they'll making up stuff here they will they'll making up stuff here they will they'll be talking to thousands of apis to be talking to thousands of apis to be talking to thousands of apis to accomplish your task when I say I need accomplish your task when I say I need accomplish your task when I say I need my agent to book my hotel and flight and my agent to book my hotel and flight and my agent to book my hotel and flight and reservations everything how do you think reservations everything how do you think reservations everything how do you think that's going to happen it's GNA happen

that's going to happen it's GNA happen that's going to happen it's GNA happen via apis to talk to the restaurant and via apis to talk to the restaurant and via apis to talk to the restaurant and talk to all these things and and and talk to all these things and and and talk to all these things and and and then the llm for the magic it's going to then the llm for the magic it's going to then the llm for the magic it's going to probably have some kind of local storage probably have some kind of local storage probably have some kind of local storage and stuff to kind of help its and stuff to kind of help its and stuff to kind of help its instruction and guess what all those API instruction and guess what all those API instruction and guess what all those API calls everybody's got their hand out calls everybody's got their hand out calls everybody's got their hand out everybody's going to get paid and so everybody's going to get paid and so everybody's going to get paid and so it's going to pay a quarter of a penny it's going to pay a quarter of a penny it's going to pay a quarter of a penny to book your restaurant at the hotel you to book your restaurant at the hotel you to book your restaurant at the hotel you know all that kind of stuff in the LM so know all that kind of stuff in the LM so know all that kind of stuff in the LM so the the seat license the agent is the the the seat license the agent is the the the seat license the agent is the perit thing the agent is incurring the perit thing the agent is incurring the perit thing the agent is incurring the cost and then by default whoever owns cost and then by default whoever owns cost and then by default whoever owns the agents is obviously going to get a the agents is obviously going to get a the agents is obviously going to get a bill in the mail but SAS is not going bill in the mail but SAS is not going bill in the mail but SAS is not going away yeah like it departments will away yeah like it departments will away yeah like it departments will become the new HR departments for AI become the new HR departments for AI become the new HR departments for AI agents right that's right that was a agents right that's right that was a agents right that's right that was a good line absolutely that's that's good line absolutely that's that's good line absolutely that's that's that's really good and so but the and so that's really good and so but the and so that's really good and so but the and so people were questioning me and I and I people were questioning me and I and I people were questioning me and I and I the example I said well maybe some a lot the example I said well maybe some a lot the example I said well maybe some a lot of s won't be as public as you see it of s won't be as public as you see it of s won't be as public as you see it like salesforce.com or something it'll like salesforce.com or something it'll like salesforce.com or something it'll be invisible SAS in the background just be invisible SAS in the background just be invisible SAS in the background just like when Co happened all these people like when Co happened all these people like when Co happened all these people working in their retail outlet their working in their retail outlet their working in their retail outlet their shop their store that they work at all shop their store that they work at all shop their store that they work at all of a sudden all those stores are closing of a sudden all those stores are closing of a sudden all those stores are closing down and those people now have jobs in down and those people now have jobs in down and those people now have jobs in an invisible place called wait for it an an invisible place called wait for it an an invisible place called wait for it an Amazon fulfillment center where they're Amazon fulfillment center where they're Amazon fulfillment center where they're now running around picking items and now running around picking items and now running around picking items and packing them up to get onto an Amazon packing them up to get onto an Amazon packing them up to get onto an Amazon robots are doing that now so you got robots are doing that now so you got robots are doing that now so you got well it's a battle against the robot

well it's a battle against the robot well it's a battle against the robot that that's the thing if you ever talk that that's the thing if you ever talk that that's the thing if you ever talk to some of these people that's where the to some of these people that's where the to some of these people that's where the stress is it's always like you better stress is it's always like you better stress is it's always like you better hurry or a robot's going to replace you hurry or a robot's going to replace you hurry or a robot's going to replace you you know you better run you know you've you know you better run you know you've you know you better run you know you've always heard stories about the poor always heard stories about the poor always heard stories about the poor people working in their familias they're people working in their familias they're people working in their familias they're like running the whole time and can't like running the whole time and can't like running the whole time and can't take a break to go to the bathroom or take a break to go to the bathroom or take a break to go to the bathroom or have lunch or anything like that um same have lunch or anything like that um same have lunch or anything like that um same with the drivers and so uh the the with the drivers and so uh the the with the drivers and so uh the the stress is incredible but yeah and so SAS stress is incredible but yeah and so SAS stress is incredible but yeah and so SAS will be invisible mostly there'll still will be invisible mostly there'll still will be invisible mostly there'll still be public SAS things but there'll be be public SAS things but there'll be be public SAS things but there'll be lots of invisible thing everybody's got lots of invisible thing everybody's got lots of invisible thing everybody's got to get paid it's just apis apis still to get paid it's just apis apis still to get paid it's just apis apis still connect the world over and you it's not connect the world over and you it's not connect the world over and you it's not like we're deprecating networks because like we're deprecating networks because like we're deprecating networks because of AI you still have to have there's of AI you still have to have there's of AI you still have to have there's that Baseline of stuff that stack you that Baseline of stuff that stack you that Baseline of stuff that stack you need of Plumbing that you have to have need of Plumbing that you have to have need of Plumbing that you have to have for all this stuff to work so there you for all this stuff to work so there you for all this stuff to work so there you have it folks well you know well you have it folks well you know well you have it folks well you know well you know the thing that has gotten confused know the thing that has gotten confused know the thing that has gotten confused that SAS is just the business model that SAS is just the business model that SAS is just the business model you you you know it's know it's know it's a why is Siri asking what's my parents a why is Siri asking what's my parents a why is Siri asking what's my parents [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] name what the hell oh my God Apple name what the hell oh my God Apple name what the hell oh my God Apple intelligence going on intelligence going on intelligence going on there oh my God are they really there oh my God are they really there oh my God are they really listening to us I got take off is there listening to us I got take off is there listening to us I got take off is there a lawsuit about this I think so Yik all right see you guys all right so Yik all right see you guys all right Leonard well wow wow

Leonard well wow wow Leonard well wow wow yeah all right I tell you I do think the yeah all right I tell you I do think the yeah all right I tell you I do think the best advertisement though for best advertisement though for best advertisement though for Apple MacBook Pros or whatever Apple MacBook Pros or whatever Apple MacBook Pros or whatever is you're are you using a special is you're are you using a special is you're are you using a special microphone Pete or are you just talk I microphone Pete or are you just talk I microphone Pete or are you just talk I got standard stock you're just talking got standard stock you're just talking got standard stock you're just talking to the to the to the laptop I have to say it looks incredible laptop I have to say it looks incredible laptop I have to say it looks incredible it does and and the sound is Rich and it does and and the sound is Rich and it does and and the sound is Rich and everything I mean that's that's a a everything I mean that's that's a a everything I mean that's that's a a great yeah props I'm not using them but great yeah props I'm not using them but great yeah props I'm not using them but on the on the um surface laptop Studio on the on the um surface laptop Studio on the on the um surface laptop Studio too I'm getting like huge quality of too I'm getting like huge quality of too I'm getting like huge quality of camera and and audio as well and when I camera and and audio as well and when I camera and and audio as well and when I do recordings most of the time by the do recordings most of the time by the do recordings most of the time by the way uh people don't realize that but I way uh people don't realize that but I way uh people don't realize that but I tell everyone like stop using that tell everyone like stop using that tell everyone like stop using that crappy 20 bucks you know camera or USB crappy 20 bucks you know camera or USB crappy 20 bucks you know camera or USB camera just use the one from your laptop camera just use the one from your laptop camera just use the one from your laptop usually it's way usually it's way usually it's way better or a recent PC like that what better or a recent PC like that what better or a recent PC like that what they shove into these devices is is they shove into these devices is is they shove into these devices is is pretty highend and people don't even pretty highend and people don't even pretty highend and people don't even realize that and microphone wise stop realize that and microphone wise stop realize that and microphone wise stop using freaking Bluetooth stuff to talk using freaking Bluetooth stuff to talk using freaking Bluetooth stuff to talk during meetings just use the the native during meetings just use the the native during meetings just use the the native microphone in your laptop it works so microphone in your laptop it works so microphone in your laptop it works so much better or use a professional one much better or use a professional one much better or use a professional one yes like a better one but yeah yes like a better one but yeah yes like a better one but yeah definitely by the way final thought on definitely by the way final thought on definitely by the way final thought on CES one of the speaking of Wast of time CES one of the speaking of Wast of time CES one of the speaking of Wast of time so that when I finished all my meetings so that when I finished all my meetings so that when I finished all my meetings I had like an hour before I went to the I had like an hour before I went to the I had like an hour before I went to the airport so went to the South Hall where airport so went to the South Hall where airport so went to the South Hall where they have all the all the gizmos and gas they have all the all the gizmos and gas they have all the all the gizmos and gas and I went to the to see all the and I went to the to see all the and I went to the to see all the batteries and the charging things that

batteries and the charging things that batteries and the charging things that they had all these cool charging packs they had all these cool charging packs they had all these cool charging packs and whatever and um there and and they and whatever and um there and and they and whatever and um there and and they have I was thinking about all the new have I was thinking about all the new have I was thinking about all the new charging things I was going to get of charging things I was going to get of charging things I was going to get of course I got to the airport and realized course I got to the airport and realized course I got to the airport and realized I left my charger in my hotel room oh I left my charger in my hotel room oh I left my charger in my hotel room oh ironic that I didn't have one one of the ironic that I didn't have one one of the ironic that I didn't have one one of the cool things and I actually got one of cool things and I actually got one of cool things and I actually got one of these for my house they have these giant these for my house they have these giant these for my house they have these giant batteries now that you can get um on batteries now that you can get um on batteries now that you can get um on Wheels it almost looks like a cooler Wheels it almost looks like a cooler Wheels it almost looks like a cooler with a hand it and these huge batteries with a hand it and these huge batteries with a hand it and these huge batteries so in case of a power outage you can so in case of a power outage you can so in case of a power outage you can plug all these things in and then you plug all these things in and then you plug all these things in and then you can also plug like external batteries can also plug like external batteries can also plug like external batteries into that you can plug solar panels into into that you can plug solar panels into into that you can plug solar panels into it and so there were a lot of companies it and so there were a lot of companies it and so there were a lot of companies out there with these Power out there with these Power out there with these Power Solutions um pretty cool stuff like gy Solutions um pretty cool stuff like gy Solutions um pretty cool stuff like gy Mars and I and all kind the new tech uh Mars and I and all kind the new tech uh Mars and I and all kind the new tech uh for really high performance batteries so for really high performance batteries so for really high performance batteries so that's cool a pretty cool thing yeah um that's cool a pretty cool thing yeah um that's cool a pretty cool thing yeah um no shortage of companies competing on no shortage of companies competing on no shortage of companies competing on that so the prices are pretty aggressive that so the prices are pretty aggressive that so the prices are pretty aggressive but like you look at anchor k but like you look at anchor k but like you look at anchor k yeah those are great guys incredible yeah those are great guys incredible yeah those are great guys incredible stuff they had incredible so um um I stuff they had incredible so um um I stuff they had incredible so um um I feel regarding this like energy feel regarding this like energy feel regarding this like energy harvesting and and storage I have the harvesting and and storage I have the harvesting and and storage I have the feeling that I'm on this position of feeling that I'm on this position of feeling that I'm on this position of like hold before buying because things like hold before buying because things like hold before buying because things are evolving so fast and I'm not are evolving so fast and I'm not are evolving so fast and I'm not convinced or sure like solid state convinced or sure like solid state convinced or sure like solid state batteries are coming um you have this batteries are coming um you have this batteries are coming um you have this notion of you know using other um energy notion of you know using other um energy notion of you know using other um energy sources it would be green you know and sources it would be green you know and sources it would be green you know and and I'm just like okay should I should I and I'm just like okay should I should I and I'm just like okay should I should I invest now or hold on to invest because

invest now or hold on to invest because invest now or hold on to invest because I was tempted during the last you know I was tempted during the last you know I was tempted during the last you know Windstorm over here to invest in the Windstorm over here to invest in the Windstorm over here to invest in the huge battery like you were mentioning huge battery like you were mentioning huge battery like you were mentioning that's one that Stacks up and you can that's one that Stacks up and you can that's one that Stacks up and you can add new units and and hook up to a solar add new units and and hook up to a solar add new units and and hook up to a solar panel and I was like um like is it is it panel and I was like um like is it is it panel and I was like um like is it is it time is it ready well mine was I got for time is it ready well mine was I got for time is it ready well mine was I got for half price on Black Friday so that was half price on Black Friday so that was half price on Black Friday so that was my that was my trigger to to go go for my that was my trigger to to go go for my that was my trigger to to go go for it it it and when I saw this series of you know and when I saw this series of you know and when I saw this series of you know funny videos about the Enron egg I don't funny videos about the Enron egg I don't funny videos about the Enron egg I don't know if you saw these ones um there like know if you saw these ones um there like know if you saw these ones um there like this like people actually went crazy this like people actually went crazy this like people actually went crazy about it for a moment before realizing about it for a moment before realizing about it for a moment before realizing it was like totally uh fake where you it was like totally uh fake where you it was like totally uh fake where you had this like young entrepreneur like had this like young entrepreneur like had this like young entrepreneur like zuk like whatever that is announcing zuk like whatever that is announcing zuk like whatever that is announcing that hey we are just releasing at CES that hey we are just releasing at CES that hey we are just releasing at CES this egg and you see and it's a nuclear this egg and you see and it's a nuclear this egg and you see and it's a nuclear nuclear source of power which is just an nuclear source of power which is just an nuclear source of power which is just an egg and a can power your house for 10 egg and a can power your house for 10 egg and a can power your house for 10 years and and you just like and and years and and you just like and and years and and you just like and and people went like w this is the next big people went like w this is the next big people went like w this is the next big thing it's like uh well first I'm not thing it's like uh well first I'm not thing it's like uh well first I'm not sure I'm ready to have a nuclear reactor sure I'm ready to have a nuclear reactor sure I'm ready to have a nuclear reactor in my house in my house in my house yet but but the promise of such a you yet but but the promise of such a you yet but but the promise of such a you know independent source of power that know independent source of power that know independent source of power that will that would I I think this is a joke will that would I I think this is a joke will that would I I think this is a joke but this is half a joke because we going but this is half a joke because we going but this is half a joke because we going to get there with the battery to get there with the battery to get there with the battery structure is not good and people are the structure is not good and people are the structure is not good and people are the the ability to have your own power the ability to have your own power the ability to have your own power sources and be more independent of the sources and be more independent of the sources and be more independent of the grid is is is becoming a reality for a

grid is is is becoming a reality for a grid is is is becoming a reality for a lot of folks so absolutely a little bit lot of folks so absolutely a little bit lot of folks so absolutely a little bit of that at CES a lot of battery power of that at CES a lot of battery power of that at CES a lot of battery power technology is becoming more consumer technology is becoming more consumer technology is becoming more consumer mainstream that's awesome that's good mainstream that's awesome that's good mainstream that's awesome that's good stuff all right all right well actually stuff all right all right well actually stuff all right all right well actually they made a full website oh really the they made a full website oh really the they made a full website oh really the whole thing is fake whole thing is fake whole thing is fake the and that the egg the nuclear egg the and that the egg the nuclear egg the and that the egg the nuclear egg nulear that one is crazy somehow they nulear that one is crazy somehow they nulear that one is crazy somehow they were given rights by the government to were given rights by the government to were given rights by the government to get some uranium and go ahead and do get some uranium and go ahead and do get some uranium and go ahead and do that you know I don't know I just I that you know I don't know I just I that you know I don't know I just I definitely invite people to go check out definitely invite people to go check out definitely invite people to go check out that website maybe it's true maybe it's that website maybe it's true maybe it's that website maybe it's true maybe it's not a joke it's true folks gosh wouldn't not a joke it's true folks gosh wouldn't not a joke it's true folks gosh wouldn't that be cool all right all right folks that be cool all right all right folks that be cool all right all right folks yeah yeah well all our semiconductor yeah yeah well all our semiconductor yeah yeah well all our semiconductor stocks across the board are dropping stocks across the board are dropping stocks across the board are dropping Like a Rock right now um you know AMD Like a Rock right now um you know AMD Like a Rock right now um you know AMD Intel well Intel you know um yeah so Intel well Intel you know um yeah so Intel well Intel you know um yeah so maybe it's a buying opportunity I don't maybe it's a buying opportunity I don't maybe it's a buying opportunity I don't know back up the truck buy the dip right know back up the truck buy the dip right know back up the truck buy the dip right I didn't say that out loud this is I didn't say that out loud this is I didn't say that out loud this is entertainment only entertainment only entertainment only yes don't listen to robely don't listen yes don't listen to robely don't listen yes don't listen to robely don't listen to rob you know this is not Jim Kramer to rob you know this is not Jim Kramer to rob you know this is not Jim Kramer talking to you you know back up the talking to you you know back up the talking to you you know back up the truck back back back bye bye bye bye all truck back back back bye bye bye bye all truck back back back bye bye bye bye all right thanks for joining us everybody on right thanks for joining us everybody on right thanks for joining us everybody on this episode of iot coffee talk it's this episode of iot coffee talk it's this episode of iot coffee talk it's been a lot of fun it's kind of a CES been a lot of fun it's kind of a CES been a lot of fun it's kind of a CES Edition you know which which is which we Edition you know which which is which we Edition you know which which is which we do you know we always have our Intrepid do you know we always have our Intrepid do you know we always have our Intrepid reporter reporter reporter you know reporting live from all these you know reporting live from all these you know reporting live from all these events around the world you know you events around the world you know you events around the world you know you don't get this from anywhere else right don't get this from anywhere else right don't get this from anywhere else right no you don't and so uh thanks for being

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