September 22, 2026

Hello everyone, this is the IoT Hello everyone, this is the IoT Coffee Talk team here in Amsterdam, Coffee Talk team here in Amsterdam, right? Yes, yes. And yes, this is one of right? Yes, yes. And yes, this is one of right? Yes, yes. And yes, this is one of the rare occasions when we the rare occasions when we the rare occasions when we can all get together, right? I took a can all get together, right? I took a can all get together, right? I took a little bit of the second shot. Let's little bit of the second shot. Let's little bit of the second shot. Let's start from the beginning. Because? start from the beginning. Because? start from the beginning. Because? Because? Yes, we don't edit. We don't Because? Yes, we don't edit. We don't Because? Yes, we don't edit. We don't edit. So, hello, I'm glad to see you edit. So, hello, I'm glad to see you edit. So, hello, I'm glad to see you . The same. And why are we . The same. And why are we . The same. And why are we here? Why are we here? We are here? Why are we here? We are here? Why are we here? We are here for the Things Conference. here for the Things Conference. here for the Things Conference. Brilliant. Thank you, he's not here, Brilliant. Thank you, he's not here, Brilliant. Thank you, he's not here, but we're here for the but we're here for the but we're here for the Things Conference. The next few days will feature Things Conference. The next few days will feature Things Conference. The next few days will feature many panels, talks, demonstrations, many panels, talks, demonstrations, many panels, talks, demonstrations, and other great things, so it will be and other great things, so it will be and other great things, so it will be fun. You know, and it's Amsterdam, fun. You know, and it's Amsterdam, fun. You know, and it's Amsterdam, so it'll be a lot of fun. And so it'll be a lot of fun. And so it'll be a lot of fun. And here we are in this very, very here we are in this very, very here we are in this very, very Dutch restaurant. With traditional Dutch restaurant. With traditional Dutch restaurant. With traditional Dutch food. Dutch food. Dutch food. Yes. Yes. Yes. And Dutch drinks. Very good. Very And Dutch drinks. Very good. Very And Dutch drinks. Very good. Very good.

good. good. Yes. Thank you, David. Yes. Thank you, David. Yes. Thank you, David. Whenever they want. Whenever they want. Whenever they want. I heard that Olivia is the presenter I heard that Olivia is the presenter I heard that Olivia is the presenter of this event. Do you know anything about that? of this event. Do you know anything about that? of this event. Do you know anything about that? Yes it is. Yes. Go ahead. Tell us Yes it is. Yes. Go ahead. Tell us Yes it is. Yes. Go ahead. Tell us the scoop. the scoop. the scoop. Tell us the scoop. Tell us the scoop. Tell us the scoop. Yes. Last year, Vinke came to me and Yes. Last year, Vinke came to me and Yes. Last year, Vinke came to me and asked, "Hey, do you want to be the asked, "Hey, do you want to be the asked, "Hey, do you want to be the host of the event?" I said to him, " host of the event?" I said to him, " What does that mean?" So you just have to What does that mean?" So you just have to What does that mean?" So you just have to introduce everyone before introduce everyone before introduce everyone before each speech. I just came and each speech. I just came and each speech. I just came and improvised. In other words, I read the website improvised. In other words, I read the website improvised. In other words, I read the website before going on stage and said, " before going on stage and said, " What's next?" Okay. And I just announced it to What's next?" Okay. And I just announced it to What's next?" Okay. And I just announced it to the people. And he wants me to do it again the people. And he wants me to do it again the people. And he wants me to do it again this year. So I guess I didn't screw up too this year. So I guess I didn't screw up too this year. So I guess I didn't screw up too badly. badly. badly. You have all your...You're the You have all your...You're the You have all your...You're the Vanna White of the Vanna White of the Vanna White of the IoT world. IoT world. Works. Works. My God. So, is this another My God. So, is this another My God. So, is this another LoRaWAN event or has it changed? What? LoRaWAN event or has it changed? What? LoRaWAN event or has it changed? What? No, it has changed. No, it has changed. That? It has That? It has That? It has changed. changed. changed. So it's not just about Laura, huh So it's not just about Laura, huh ? ? ? No, and last year we already had wifi, No, and last year we already had wifi, No, and last year we already had wifi, Bluetooth, everyone. In fact, Bluetooth, everyone. In fact, Bluetooth, everyone. In fact, I believe that one of the first sessions I believe that one of the first sessions I believe that one of the first sessions on the first day is a panel with seven on the first day is a panel with seven on the first day is a panel with seven different protocols that will be different protocols that will be different protocols that will be represented.

represented. represented. Oh, Wi-Fi? Oh, Wi-Fi? Oh, Wi-Fi? Yes. Well, yes, as if they were going to have Yes. Well, yes, as if they were going to have Yes. Well, yes, as if they were going to have all seven. We can create a all seven. We can create a all seven. We can create a questionnaire. Let's try to questionnaire. Let's try to questionnaire. Let's try to figure out what the sevens are, figure out what the sevens are, okay? okay? okay? Sigfox, obviously. Sigfox, obviously. Sigfox, obviously. Yes, Sigfox. Yes, Sigfox. Yes, Sigfox. Well, this is a multi-protocol event Well, this is a multi-protocol event . . . It is. I think it has become It is. I think it has become It is. I think it has become something and is more about IoT, not just something and is more about IoT, not just something and is more about IoT, not just connectivity. connectivity. connectivity. Yes. Yes. Yes. And you know, some And you know, some And you know, some cutting-edge AI too, right? cutting-edge AI too, right? cutting-edge AI too, right? Yes, there is a cutting-edge AI topic. Yes, there is a cutting-edge AI topic. Yes, there is a cutting-edge AI topic. All of this is like an ultralight avant-garde All of this is like an ultralight avant-garde All of this is like an ultralight avant-garde . That's what the program is about. An . That's what the program is about. An . That's what the program is about. An ultralight avant-garde, not just a ultralight avant-garde, not just a ultralight avant-garde, not just a lightweight avant-garde. lightweight avant-garde. lightweight avant-garde. Wow, it's like a feather. Wow, it's like a feather. Wow, it's like a feather. A feather, you know, like a A feather, you know, like a A feather, you know, like a subatomic particle. subatomic particle. What is ULE? What is ULE? What is ULE? Yes, ULE. I Yes, ULE. I love it. I don't know why. That's what you'll love it. I don't know why. That's what you'll eat. eat. eat. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I think it just happened for the first I think it just happened for the first I think it just happened for the first time. time. time. Because we needed another edge. Because we needed another edge. Because we needed another edge. That's how it is. Yes, you need another border. That's how it is. Yes, you need another border. That's how it is. Yes, you need another border. This is different from the far edge or This is different from the far edge or This is different from the far edge or the thick edge or the the thick edge or the the thick edge or the telecom company edge or the telecom company edge or the telecom company edge or the base station edge or... It base station edge or... It base station edge or... It reminds me of the cloud and the fog and reminds me of the cloud and the fog and reminds me of the cloud and the fog and ...

... ... Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you, Cisco. Thank you, Cisco. Thank you, Cisco. Yes. Yes. Yes. Because of the fog. Yes. My God. But Because of the fog. Yes. My God. But Because of the fog. Yes. My God. But you know, it's funny that you're talking about that you know, it's funny that you're talking about that you know, it's funny that you're talking about that when you say it's an IoT that's not when you say it's an IoT that's not when you say it's an IoT that's not just about connectivity. In my just about connectivity. In my just about connectivity. In my experience over the years, experience over the years, experience over the years, this is one of the only this is one of the only this is one of the only IoT events that focused on connectivity IoT events that focused on connectivity . Most IoT events are not about . Most IoT events are not about . Most IoT events are not about connectivity. connectivity. connectivity. Yes. Yes. Yes. Nobody takes connectivity as Nobody takes connectivity as Nobody takes connectivity as seriously as this event. It was always just seriously as this event. It was always just seriously as this event. It was always just one more thing. In fact, for one more thing. In fact, for one more thing. In fact, for most customers—and it bites their most customers—and it bites their most customers—and it bites their butts all the time— butts all the time— butts all the time— connectivity was actually the last thing they connectivity was actually the last thing they connectivity was actually the last thing they thought about when creating an thought about when creating an thought about when creating an IoT solution. Because for IoT solution. Because for IoT solution. Because for most people, most people, most people, connectivity is a commodity. And connectivity is a commodity. And connectivity is a commodity. And therefore, it's not really like, whatever therefore, it's not really like, whatever therefore, it's not really like, whatever . Indoors I'll use . Indoors I'll use . Indoors I'll use wifi, whatever. Or I'm going to use wifi, whatever. Or I'm going to use wifi, whatever. Or I'm going to use Bluetooth because it's, you know, what you Bluetooth because it's, you know, what you Bluetooth because it's, you know, what you know. If I have cabling in a know. If I have cabling in a know. If I have cabling in a factory, I'm going to use Ethernet. I'm not going to factory, I'm going to use Ethernet. I'm not going to factory, I'm going to use Ethernet. I'm not going to use wireless technology use wireless technology use wireless technology unless I need to move a lot of things. unless I need to move a lot of things. unless I need to move a lot of things. Yes. And it was never a big problem. But Yes. And it was never a big problem. But Yes. And it was never a big problem. But I don't think I'd call it a trend, I don't think I'd call it a trend, I don't think I'd call it a trend, but I do see that more and more people are talking but I do see that more and more people are talking but I do see that more and more people are talking about IoT, actually they're talking a lot about about IoT, actually they're talking a lot about about IoT, actually they're talking a lot about connectivity.

connectivity. connectivity. Connectivity, yes. Connectivity, yes. Yes, because they connected the Yes, because they connected the telecommunications companies at the dawn telecommunications companies at the dawn telecommunications companies at the dawn of IoT, they thought, "Thank God there's of IoT, they thought, "Thank God there's of IoT, they thought, "Thank God there's something, we've already saturated something, we've already saturated something, we've already saturated smartphones with our smartphones with our smartphones with our crap and all that, and we've found crap and all that, and we've found crap and all that, and we've found new SIM endpoints." new SIM endpoints." new SIM endpoints." They have billions, I want They have billions, I want billions. billions. Since we're here in the real world, I Since we're here in the real world, I Since we're here in the real world, I really need to take advantage of this really need to take advantage of this really need to take advantage of this opportunity. You need to stop staring at me opportunity. You need to stop staring at me opportunity. You need to stop staring at me . You said " . You said " . You said " telecommunications company", okay? That was a telecommunications company", okay? That was a telecommunications company", okay? That was a long time ago. I'm cured now. My long time ago. I'm cured now. My long time ago. I'm cured now. My scars have disappeared. I have them scars have disappeared. I have them scars have disappeared. I have them tattooed. Relax. But you're right tattooed. Relax. But you're right . You're right, Rob. That was, uh, that . You're right, Rob. That was, uh, that . You're right, Rob. That was, uh, that was the whole premise. It was the whole premise. It was the whole premise. It used to be a licensed spectrum, the used to be a licensed spectrum, the used to be a licensed spectrum, the era of the licensed spectrum. era of the licensed spectrum. era of the licensed spectrum. Yes of course. Yes of course. Yes of course. Now, we're all in the unlicensed spectrum Now, we're all in the unlicensed spectrum Now, we're all in the unlicensed spectrum . Yes. What? . Yes. What? Again? Again? Again? Yes. Yes. Yes. So, with unlicensed spectrum, is it So, with unlicensed spectrum, is it So, with unlicensed spectrum, is it like we're pirates? like we're pirates? like we're pirates? Without a license. Unlicensed spectrum, Without a license. Unlicensed spectrum, Without a license. Unlicensed spectrum, as if we were breaking as if we were breaking as if we were breaking the... No, it was something else, trying to the... No, it was something else, trying to the... No, it was something else, trying to differentiate something that the differentiate something that the differentiate something that the end consumer didn't need to differentiate, but end consumer didn't need to differentiate, but end consumer didn't need to differentiate, but the powers that be were telling us: "Hey the powers that be were telling us: "Hey , this is what you can do with a , this is what you can do with a , this is what you can do with a license, safety, and all these license, safety, and all these license, safety, and all these gadgets compared to gadgets compared to gadgets compared to unlicensed spectrum. It's the Wild unlicensed spectrum. It's the Wild unlicensed spectrum. It's the Wild West."

West." West." Thus, mobile operators Thus, mobile operators Thus, mobile operators tried to downplay or tried to downplay or tried to downplay or belittle unlicensed spectrum. belittle unlicensed spectrum. belittle unlicensed spectrum. Yes of course. Yes of course. Yes of course. Because you think, "Oh, you're Because you think, "Oh, you're Because you think, "Oh, you're going crazy." You ca going crazy." You ca going crazy." You ca n't count on that. That n't count on that. That n't count on that. That cannot be relied upon. There is no cannot be relied upon. There is no cannot be relied upon. There is no security, whatever. You're security, whatever. You're security, whatever. You're cheating. It's probably illegal in cheating. It's probably illegal in cheating. It's probably illegal in some countries. In Botswana or something like that. some countries. In Botswana or something like that. some countries. In Botswana or something like that. Meanwhile, while some of Meanwhile, while some of Meanwhile, while some of our friends were building our friends were building our friends were building infrastructure in the middle of nowhere, I infrastructure in the middle of nowhere, I infrastructure in the middle of nowhere, I had no problem with that. had no problem with that. had no problem with that. Yes. Yes. You know? You know? You know? Clear. Clear. Clear. RF is RF. RF is RF. RF is RF. Yes. Yes, that's right. What's the Yes. Yes, that's right. What's the Yes. Yes, that's right. What's the latest? What do we call this latest? What do we call this latest? What do we call this direct-to-satellite thing? direct-to-satellite thing? direct-to-satellite thing? I saw someone imitating Laura I saw someone imitating Laura I saw someone imitating Laura Wayne from space. Wayne from space. Wayne from space. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Yes, that's the program. That's all. Yes, that's the program. That's all. Yes, that's the program. That's all. But you know how that NTM, like the But you know how that NTM, like the But you know how that NTM, like the cell phone, is the latest. Do you know which cell phone, is the latest. Do you know which cell phone, is the latest. Do you know which version we're on? 19 or 20, whatever, version we're on? 19 or 20, whatever, version we're on? 19 or 20, whatever, as we move towards 5G, as we move towards 5G, as we move towards 5G, 6G and all that, and we've finally 6G and all that, and we've finally 6G and all that, and we've finally tried to make them realize that tried to make them realize that tried to make them realize that satellites are real. And that satellites are real. And that satellites are real. And that mobile telephony shouldn't be just mobile telephony shouldn't be just mobile telephony shouldn't be just us or nothing. So we've us or nothing. So we've us or nothing. So we've added it to the, you know, added it to the, you know, added it to the, you know, GSMA specifications or, you know GSMA specifications or, you know , for that kind of thing. Everyone , for that kind of thing. Everyone , for that kind of thing. Everyone looks at me like I'm crazy.

looks at me like I'm crazy. looks at me like I'm crazy. Well, first of all, you guys are Well, first of all, you guys are Well, first of all, you guys are crazy. So we're looking at them with crazy. So we're looking at them with crazy. So we're looking at them with precision. precision. precision. OK. OK. OK. However, I will now defend the However, I will now defend the However, I will now defend the telecommunications companies regarding the telecommunications companies regarding the telecommunications companies regarding the whole satellite issue. Look whole satellite issue. Look , once again, let's not compare one thing , once again, let's not compare one thing , once again, let's not compare one thing to the other. There are all sorts of to the other. There are all sorts of to the other. There are all sorts of exceptional cases and use cases that will exceptional cases and use cases that will exceptional cases and use cases that will benefit from one thing rather than benefit from one thing rather than benefit from one thing rather than the other. But, friends, I want to talk about the other. But, friends, I want to talk about the other. But, friends, I want to talk about everywhere coverage from everywhere coverage from everywhere coverage from outer space. That's where we're not outer space. That's where we're not outer space. That's where we're not . No. We simply . No. We simply . No. We simply can't get the Wi-Fi to work can't get the Wi-Fi to work can't get the Wi-Fi to work on the plane. on the plane. on the plane. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Even SpaceX has a satellite that Even SpaceX has a satellite that Even SpaceX has a satellite that falls from space every day. falls from space every day. falls from space every day. The infrastructure that The infrastructure that The infrastructure that telecommunications companies have built with telecommunications companies have built with telecommunications companies have built with cabling and fiber in the ground, and cabling and fiber in the ground, and cabling and fiber in the ground, and base stations, and power, and trenches, base stations, and power, and trenches, base stations, and power, and trenches, and all kinds of and all kinds of and all kinds of disaster recovery is what makes our disaster recovery is what makes our disaster recovery is what makes our world, a cellular world, work world, a cellular world, work world, a cellular world, work today. And I think all the today. And I think all the today. And I think all the satellite connectivity to satellite connectivity to satellite connectivity to devices isn't a great devices isn't a great devices isn't a great addition, especially for addition, especially for addition, especially for people who spend a lot of time people who spend a lot of time people who spend a lot of time outdoors in the middle of nowhere.

outdoors in the middle of nowhere. outdoors in the middle of nowhere. Like many, Like many, Like many, for example, for example, for example, because they are bait. They will be bait for because they are bait. They will be bait for because they are bait. They will be bait for bears. bears. bears. Look, it gives you an option where there Look, it gives you an option where there Look, it gives you an option where there were no options before, but we're not in were no options before, but we're not in were no options before, but we're not in a situation where you know that a situation where you know that a situation where you know that Starlink is going to replace a Starlink is going to replace a Starlink is going to replace a mobile phone operator in the mobile phone operator in the mobile phone operator in the near future. So please, near future. So please, near future. So please, don't believe the advertising. don't believe the advertising. don't believe the advertising. To take over, right? To take over, right? To take over, right? Yes, buy a mobile phone operator Yes, buy a mobile phone operator Yes, buy a mobile phone operator . . . Yes, and yes, that was it...I had a Yes, and yes, that was it...I had a Yes, and yes, that was it...I had a conversation with a knight from Skylo conversation with a knight from Skylo . I forgot his name. I'm sorry. . I forgot his name. I'm sorry. . I forgot his name. I'm sorry. Karthik. Karthik. Karthik. Yes. Karthik, yes. Thank you. Yes, and you Yes. Karthik, yes. Thank you. Yes, and you Yes. Karthik, yes. Thank you. Yes, and you know, we're talking about the fact know, we're talking about the fact know, we're talking about the fact that, you know, theirs complies with 3GPP, that, you know, theirs complies with 3GPP, that, you know, theirs complies with 3GPP, right? I mean, it's like a right? I mean, it's like a right? I mean, it's like a legitimate cellular satellite. What legitimate cellular satellite. What legitimate cellular satellite. What Elon had to do in the recent Elon had to do in the recent Elon had to do in the recent investor call was make investor call was make investor call was make excuses for the fact that the excuses for the fact that the excuses for the fact that the spectrum holdings he has spectrum holdings he has spectrum holdings he has are not cellular, you know, are not cellular, you know, are not cellular, you know, 3GPP compatible, or, you know, spectrum that is 3GPP compatible, or, you know, spectrum that is 3GPP compatible, or, you know, spectrum that is compatible with cellular. Therefore, compatible with cellular. Therefore, compatible with cellular. Therefore, you have to install special equipment you have to install special equipment you have to install special equipment in the phones you're in the phones you're in the phones you're talking about, right? Therefore, none talking about, right? Therefore, none talking about, right? Therefore, none of the phones available today of the phones available today of the phones available today will support will support their technology. So, he's their technology. So, he's starting from scratch in Salt Lake City.

starting from scratch in Salt Lake City. starting from scratch in Salt Lake City. I'm not sure about T-Mobile. I'm not sure about T-Mobile. I'm not sure about T-Mobile. T-Mobile is the first company to make T-Mobile is the first company to make T-Mobile is the first company to make a deal with Starlink, so they have a deal with Starlink, so they have a deal with Starlink, so they have things there. things there. things there. They have integrated Starlink connectivity. They have integrated Starlink connectivity. They have integrated Starlink connectivity. Of course. Yes. Of course. Yes. Of course. Yes. So, there are... So, there are... So, there are... But that's not But that's not But that's not exceptional. exceptional. exceptional. Yes. It's exceptional, but look Yes. It's exceptional, but look Yes. It's exceptional, but look how Musk got other how Musk got other how Musk got other automakers to adopt his automakers to adopt his automakers to adopt his charging connector. charging connector. charging connector. Yes. Yes. Yes. As if everyone were switching to As if everyone were switching to As if everyone were switching to that. that. that. Yes. Yes. Yes. It is... It is... It is... Yes. It Yes. It Yes. It 's simply better. 's simply better. 's simply better. Setting the standard. He set Setting the standard. He set Setting the standard. He set the standard. the standard. the standard. However, it is failing in Europe. However, it is failing in Europe. Really? Really? Because yes, because the regulators Because yes, because the regulators Because yes, because the regulators decided to screw them over. decided to screw them over. Did you say the words regulator and Europe? Does Did you say the words regulator and Europe? Does this sound familiar? Yes. this sound familiar? Yes. Okay, just to check. Hey Okay, just to check. Hey Okay, just to check. Hey guys, what are you expecting from guys, what are you expecting from guys, what are you expecting from this year's Things conference? And, you this year's Things conference? And, you this year's Things conference? And, you know, we've all been know, we've all been know, we've all been involved in one way or another, we've involved in one way or another, we've involved in one way or another, we've been, you know, hanging out with been, you know, hanging out with been, you know, hanging out with Vincky, Johan and their team for years Vincky, Johan and their team for years , right? So, what are you expecting , right? So, what are you expecting , right? So, what are you expecting this year? What do you think will be this year? What do you think will be this year? What do you think will be interesting? You start.

interesting? You start. interesting? You start. Well, looking at the agenda, I think it's Well, looking at the agenda, I think it's Well, looking at the agenda, I think it's the same as always in terms of topics. the same as always in terms of topics. But not in a bad way. Not in a bad But not in a bad way. Not in a bad way. And instead of jumping, way. And instead of jumping, way. And instead of jumping, we lost Rob. we lost Rob. we lost Rob. Not in a bad way. And that's because Not in a bad way. And that's because Not in a bad way. And that's because , in my opinion, the , in my opinion, the , in my opinion, the Things conference has always been about Things conference has always been about Things conference has always been about real life, about getting down to business real life, about getting down to business real life, about getting down to business and doing things for real. Something new and doing things for real. Something new and doing things for real. Something new that excites me is that they have this that excites me is that they have this that excites me is that they have this new stage for demonstrations. And new stage for demonstrations. And new stage for demonstrations. And with that issue of putting what we say into practice with that issue of putting what we say into practice with that issue of putting what we say into practice . So instead of . So instead of . So instead of promising something or talking about trends and promising something or talking about trends and promising something or talking about trends and what comes next, show me a what comes next, show me a what comes next, show me a demonstration. That's going to be demonstration. That's going to be demonstration. That's going to be interesting. The other thing is that interesting. The other thing is that interesting. The other thing is that nowadays we can't hold an event without nowadays we can't hold an event without nowadays we can't hold an event without talking about AI. And interestingly, it made me talking about AI. And interestingly, it made me talking about AI. And interestingly, it made me react when you said yes, it's react when you said yes, it's react when you said yes, it's still about connectivity. And still about connectivity. And still about connectivity. And I get the impression that the IAG is bringing I get the impression that the IAG is bringing I get the impression that the IAG is bringing that that that conversation about connectivity back to the forefront because conversation about connectivity back to the forefront because conversation about connectivity back to the forefront because of the need to implement new of the need to implement new of the need to implement new models, you know, to have models that models, you know, to have models that models, you know, to have models that send results to a base station send results to a base station send results to a base station or a cloud or whatever. Furthermore, or a cloud or whatever. Furthermore, or a cloud or whatever. Furthermore, we are increasingly talking about we are increasingly talking about we are increasingly talking about different types of connectivity that different types of connectivity that different types of connectivity that are complementary or are complementary or are complementary or mutually reinforcing. Because you can mutually reinforcing. Because you can mutually reinforcing. Because you can download a large model via download a large model via , I don't know, wifi, hello, but then , I don't know, wifi, hello, but then , I don't know, wifi, hello, but then you just need Laura WAN to send a you just need Laura WAN to send a you just need Laura WAN to send a little message saying, "Hey, I've little message saying, "Hey, I've little message saying, "Hey, I've detected someone," right? And I think it's going to detected someone," right? And I think it's going to detected someone," right? And I think it's going to be an

be an be an interesting conversation that justifies having all interesting conversation that justifies having all interesting conversation that justifies having all these different protocols in the same these different protocols in the same these different protocols in the same scenario at the same time to explain scenario at the same time to explain scenario at the same time to explain what's for what in the context of what's for what in the context of what's for what in the context of AI at the edge. I don't know, that's just my AI at the edge. I don't know, that's just my AI at the edge. I don't know, that's just my opinion. It just sucked up opinion. It just sucked up opinion. It just sucked up all the oxygen in the room, all the oxygen in the room, all the oxygen in the room, dude. dude. dude. Well done. Well done. Well done. Well done. Well done. Well done. Well done. Well done. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, okay. Well, I think... Well, Oh, okay. Well, I think... Well, Oh, okay. Well, I think... Well, first of all, let's inaugurate our first of all, let's inaugurate our first of all, let's inaugurate our Edge AI neighborhood with our Edge AI neighborhood with our Edge AI neighborhood with our special Edge AI coffee cart. That is special Edge AI coffee cart. That is special Edge AI coffee cart. That is probably the program's biggest novelty probably the program's biggest novelty probably the program's biggest novelty . It . It . It 'll really catch them, won't it? 'll really catch them, won't it? 'll really catch them, won't it? There you have it. It's all about the coffee There you have it. It's all about the coffee . That will be fine. In fact, I'm going to give . That will be fine. In fact, I'm going to give . That will be fine. In fact, I'm going to give a talk, and I gave a similar talk a talk, and I gave a similar talk a talk, and I gave a similar talk last year, about where last year, about where last year, about where AI is headed at the edge, and this year AI is headed at the edge, and this year AI is headed at the edge, and this year I'm going to talk about how we're moving I'm going to talk about how we're moving I'm going to talk about how we're moving towards a world that prioritizes the edge. towards a world that prioritizes the edge. towards a world that prioritizes the edge. For example, when will we For example, when will we For example, when will we actually move to Edge First for AI? But it actually move to Edge First for AI? But it actually move to Edge First for AI? But it 's a talk I 's a talk I 's a talk I should probably give every 6 months because the should probably give every 6 months because the should probably give every 6 months because the amount of progress that has been amount of progress that has been amount of progress that has been made in the last year has been made in the last year has been made in the last year has been enormous. Even Quinn's models, enormous. Even Quinn's models, enormous. Even Quinn's models, like 6 months ago, between 6 months ago and like 6 months ago, between 6 months ago and like 6 months ago, between 6 months ago and now, the context window is about now, the context window is about now, the context window is about 10 times larger than it was 6 months ago.

10 times larger than it was 6 months ago. 10 times larger than it was 6 months ago. Therefore, the models are getting Therefore, the models are getting Therefore, the models are getting smaller and better at the same time. And smaller and better at the same time. And smaller and better at the same time. And that's how much more can be done. I think that's how much more can be done. I think that's how much more can be done. I think that will be a topic of debate because that will be a topic of debate because that will be a topic of debate because then it will be like, well, what then it will be like, well, what then it will be like, well, what are the new scenarios that are the new scenarios that are the new scenarios that could be done without having to go back to could be done without having to go back to could be done without having to go back to the cloud? So more and more the cloud? So more and more the cloud? So more and more people will use the edge first. people will use the edge first. people will use the edge first. It's It's It's interesting. Let's talk about what you were saying interesting. Let's talk about what you were saying . Mobile devices first, . Mobile devices first, . Mobile devices first, then the cloud. then the cloud. then the cloud. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then we would go back to the And then we would go back to the beginning. That's the first thing. That's the first thing. I think it will be first thing. I think it will be interesting. And coffee too. interesting. And coffee too. interesting. And coffee too. Coffee. It's Coffee. It's Coffee. It's very hot. The very hot. The very hot. The coffee is hot. The coffee is coffee is hot. The coffee is coffee is hot. The coffee is hot. hot. hot. Edge is in fashion. Edge is in fashion. Edge is in fashion. I think the event is going to be about, I do I think the event is going to be about, I do I think the event is going to be about, I do n't know, maybe saving the Earth with the n't know, maybe saving the Earth with the n't know, maybe saving the Earth with the Internet of Things. I think that's what Internet of Things. I think that's what Internet of Things. I think that's what the event is going to be about. Yes. We the event is going to be about. Yes. We only have Rob, Rob, we only have only have Rob, Rob, we only have 2 weeks left. 2 weeks left. What? What? What? What? What? What? Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Oh. Oh. Oh. Look at this. I have to Look at this. I have to Look at this. I have to sign it, everyone. sign it, everyone. sign it, everyone. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We have people traveling by train. We have We have people traveling by train. We have We have people traveling by train. We have people who come from all over Europe. And people who come from all over Europe. And people who come from all over Europe. And they said that this event is actually they said that this event is actually they said that this event is actually a book signing event, a book signing event, a book signing event, really. That's what it's all about.

really. That's what it's all about. really. That's what it's all about. So you'll be sitting in a So you'll be sitting in a So you'll be sitting in a corner signing books, right? corner signing books, right? corner signing books, right? Exactly. So I'm going to give a Exactly. So I'm going to give a Exactly. So I'm going to give a talk about that. My talk about that. My talk about that. My opening speech will be 15 minutes, and then I'll do opening speech will be 15 minutes, and then I'll do opening speech will be 15 minutes, and then I'll do a round table discussion. A 5-minute round table discussion a round table discussion. A 5-minute round table discussion a round table discussion. A 5-minute round table discussion on that. We'll be able to go into more detail on that. We'll be able to go into more detail on that. We'll be able to go into more detail with the people there about how to make it with the people there about how to make it with the people there about how to make it work, that kind of thing. I'm work, that kind of thing. I'm work, that kind of thing. I'm very excited. And it doesn't have much AI, very excited. And it doesn't have much AI, very excited. And it doesn't have much AI, I have to admit. You already know. I have to admit. You already know. I have to admit. You already know. It's an It's an It's an exaggeration of Keynote. exaggeration of Keynote. exaggeration of Keynote. Well, you know, the early versions Well, you know, the early versions Well, you know, the early versions of the book were for engineers. And it of the book were for engineers. And it of the book were for engineers. And it took many iterations for it to took many iterations for it to took many iterations for it to arrive. I thought, you know, let's arrive. I thought, you know, let's arrive. I thought, you know, let's use KPIs. We're going to use things that might make use KPIs. We're going to use things that might make use KPIs. We're going to use things that might make sense to a lot of people. So sense to a lot of people. So sense to a lot of people. So I'm very excited. This will be I'm very excited. This will be I'm very excited. This will be a good presentation for a good presentation for a good presentation for that. Good. That's assuming that. Good. That's assuming that. Good. That's assuming people care about saving the Earth. people care about saving the Earth. Maybe not, if so, but three Maybe not, if so, but three weeks, two weeks. It's two or three weeks, two weeks. It's two or three weeks, two weeks. It's two or three weeks. We should go all out, weeks. We should go all out, weeks. We should go all out, then. Very good. Good luck. Don't die then. Very good. Good luck. Don't die then. Very good. Good luck. Don't die . Have fun. . Have fun. . Have fun. Wait, wait, wait, wait. If Wait, wait, wait, wait. If Wait, wait, wait, wait. If some AI can read the book, maybe some AI can read the book, maybe some AI can read the book, maybe we're safe. Or some AGI, right?

we're safe. Or some AGI, right? we're safe. Or some AGI, right? I'm sure some AI has already I'm sure some AI has already I'm sure some AI has already read my entire book and included it read my entire book and included it read my entire book and included it in its LLM. in its LLM. in its LLM. We need to upload it to your... You don't We need to upload it to your... You don't We need to upload it to your... You don't even have to buy it because even have to buy it because even have to buy it because you can get the answers from...Yes you can get the answers from...Yes . Okay, let's see. I think the things that . Okay, let's see. I think the things that . Okay, let's see. I think the things that excite me the most are, first and excite me the most are, first and excite me the most are, first and foremost, the IoT Hall of Fame. foremost, the IoT Hall of Fame. foremost, the IoT Hall of Fame. I want to see which friends have installed I want to see which friends have installed I want to see which friends have installed any equipment there. It's always any equipment there. It's always any equipment there. It's always interesting to watch. And the iterations we interesting to watch. And the iterations we interesting to watch. And the iterations we 've seen from a 've seen from a 've seen from a hardware perspective. Secondly, I'm talking about hardware perspective. Secondly, I'm talking about hardware perspective. Secondly, I'm talking about regulatory issues and, within the regulatory issues and, within the regulatory issues and, within the supply chain of the solutions supply chain of the solutions supply chain of the solutions we buy, up to the hardware, we buy, up to the hardware, we buy, up to the hardware, where do these parts come from? Yes, no, no where do these parts come from? Yes, no, no , if you missed it, Oliver just fell , if you missed it, Oliver just fell , if you missed it, Oliver just fell asleep. However, in my environment, asleep. However, in my environment, asleep. However, in my environment, from a purely commercial point of view from a purely commercial point of view from a purely commercial point of view , either you are able to explain , either you are able to explain , either you are able to explain where things come from, or you where things come from, or you where things come from, or you simply won't be able to collaborate simply won't be able to collaborate simply won't be able to collaborate with us. with us. with us. Thank you, sir. Well, and obviously Thank you, sir. Well, and obviously Thank you, sir. Well, and obviously supporting all my friends and colleagues in the supporting all my friends and colleagues in the supporting all my friends and colleagues in the industry, you know, the IoT world, and industry, you know, the IoT world, and industry, you know, the IoT world, and hanging out in Amsterdam, where hanging out in Amsterdam, where hanging out in Amsterdam, where I lived for 3 years, and I've just come back I lived for 3 years, and I've just come back I lived for 3 years, and I've just come back home. So I'm delighted home. So I'm delighted home. So I'm delighted to be here.

to be here. to be here. For showing us the right places to For showing us the right places to For showing us the right places to go. go. go. Yes of course. Yes of course. Yes of course. Out of nowhere. That's what I Out of nowhere. That's what I Out of nowhere. That's what I do. do. do. Hey, isn't it a bit like going to Hey, isn't it a bit like going to Hey, isn't it a bit like going to Sarah 23? And the public sector? It has Sarah 23? And the public sector? It has Sarah 23? And the public sector? It has that vibe. In fact, maybe we should that vibe. In fact, maybe we should that vibe. In fact, maybe we should ask if we can order a ask if we can order a ask if we can order a blackberry mojito. blackberry mojito. blackberry mojito. Yes. Well, by pressing this. Yes. Well, by pressing this. Yes. Well, by pressing this. Pulse tester. Pulse tester. Pulse tester. Oh, this is my first time at the Oh, this is my first time at the Oh, this is my first time at the fair. I'm so late, but what a fair. I'm so late, but what a fair. I'm so late, but what a thrill to be here. I'm looking for anything thrill to be here. I'm looking for anything thrill to be here. I'm looking for anything that shows me people who that shows me people who that shows me people who solve problems first, okay? No, no, no, no, no, solve problems first, okay? No, no, no, no, no, solve problems first, okay? No, no, no, no, no, go after the problems go after the problems go after the problems first and prove it. And I'm really first and prove it. And I'm really first and prove it. And I'm really excited to see what's happening excited to see what's happening excited to see what's happening globally, not just where we come from globally, not just where we come from . And there are many stories, history, and . And there are many stories, history, and . And there are many stories, history, and great speakers. I don't know where to great speakers. I don't know where to great speakers. I don't know where to begin. So I would really appreciate begin. So I would really appreciate begin. So I would really appreciate any advice. any advice. any advice. Yes, that sounds good. Yes, that sounds good. Yes, that sounds good. Very well, Leonard, you're the last one. Very well, Leonard, you're the last one. Yes, I'm very curious to know Yes, I'm very curious to know how I'm going to do a how I'm going to do a how I'm going to do a 10-minute heavy metal guitar solo to 10-minute heavy metal guitar solo to 10-minute heavy metal guitar solo to close the event.

close the event. We'll be there. Lots of reverberation. I We'll be there. Lots of reverberation. I know. know. know. Lots of reverberation. Lots of Lots of reverberation. Lots of Lots of reverberation. Lots of reverberation. Lots of reverberation. Lots of reverberation. Lots of reverberation, Google. reverberation, Google. reverberation, Google. Lots of reverberation. Did Lots of reverberation. Did you know? I'm not afraid that you know? I'm not afraid that you know? I'm not afraid that you might do it. you might do it. you might do it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, we often see that you don't Yes, we often see that you don't Yes, we often see that you don't even know the song and, like even know the song and, like even know the song and, like before we started recording at Coffee before we started recording at Coffee before we started recording at Coffee Talk, you just decipher it and say, Talk, you just decipher it and say, Talk, you just decipher it and say, "Okay, I'm fine." "Okay, I'm fine." "Okay, I'm fine." And sometimes the amplifier isn't And sometimes the amplifier isn't And sometimes the amplifier isn't plugged in, or he's somewhere and plugged in, or he's somewhere and plugged in, or he's somewhere and something happens. And it makes it possible. It just something happens. And it makes it possible. It just something happens. And it makes it possible. It just happens, and I think Leonard happens, and I think Leonard happens, and I think Leonard is wasting his time doing is wasting his time doing is wasting his time doing these things. I should be on tour. these things. I should be on tour. Know? Know? Know? And that's all I want to say. And that's all I want to say. We are in Amsterdam, the We are in Amsterdam, the birthplace of who I believe is the birthplace of who I believe is the birthplace of who I believe is the best guitarist to ever best guitarist to ever best guitarist to ever walk the Earth, Eddie Van Halen. And walk the Earth, Eddie Van Halen. And walk the Earth, Eddie Van Halen. And I want to discover this is what I I want to discover this is what I I want to discover this is what I really want to find out at the really want to find out at the really want to find out at the Things conference. How many of Things conference. How many of Things conference. How many of you Dutch people know who you Dutch people know who you Dutch people know who Eddie Van Halen is? Eddie Van Halen is? Eddie Van Halen is? Clear.

Clear. Clear. Because Minke didn't know. Because Minke didn't know. Because Minke didn't know. OK? OK? OK? That's what I want to find out. This is That's what I want to find out. This is That's what I want to find out. This is a test for you. Yes, it's a a test for you. Yes, it's a ... Well, you know, guys, let's wrap this up ... Well, you know, guys, let's wrap this up . We're here live . We're here live . We're here live from Amsterdam. We'll be here from Amsterdam. We'll be here from Amsterdam. We'll be here for what you can probably now for what you can probably now for what you can probably now consider the best consider the best consider the best coffee conference on IoT, AI, and the edge in the coffee conference on IoT, AI, and the edge in the coffee conference on IoT, AI, and the edge in the world. This is where we come together to world. This is where we come together to world. This is where we come together to unite all these worlds, these unite all these worlds, these unite all these worlds, these technological domains, and thus foster technological domains, and thus foster technological domains, and thus foster conversation. Thank you for listening conversation. Thank you for listening conversation. Thank you for listening and watching us all these years, and and watching us all these years, and and watching us all these years, and remember, it's all about uplifting remember, it's all about uplifting remember, it's all about uplifting communities, isn't it? And communities, isn't it? And communities, isn't it? And remember, it's about uplifting remember, it's about uplifting remember, it's about uplifting communities, right? communities, right? communities, right? There you have it. There you have it. And how is that done? It is done by buying And how is that done? It is done by buying And how is that done? It is done by buying this type of book. That's right this type of book. That's right this type of book. That's right , because we're going to , because we're going to , because we're going to save the world.

save the world. save the world. Save the planet, right? You know, Save the planet, right? You know, Save the planet, right? You know, when AI...Yeah, there you have it. when AI...Yeah, there you have it. when AI...Yeah, there you have it. When AI starts to clash with When AI starts to clash with When AI starts to clash with humanity, guess what we're going to humanity, guess what we're going to humanity, guess what we're going to need? We're going to need need? We're going to need need? We're going to need Rob's book. Yes, because it will show you how to Rob's book. Yes, because it will show you how to Rob's book. Yes, because it will show you how to build your own...Yes, a build your own...Yes, a build your own...Yes, a Terminator defense robot. It's a...Yes, it's Terminator defense robot. It's a...Yes, it's Terminator defense robot. It's a...Yes, it's a recipe for success. These are a recipe for success. These are a recipe for success. These are recipes. Yes. Yes. And you are...So let's recipes. Yes. Yes. And you are...So let's recipes. Yes. Yes. And you are...So let's turn it on, son. But turn it on, son. But turn it on, son. But you know what? It's funny you say that you know what? It's funny you say that you know what? It's funny you say that because I noticed it too. It's as if because I noticed it too. It's as if because I noticed it too. It's as if technology were easy. We need to technology were easy. We need to technology were easy. We need to talk about the recipes and talk about the recipes and talk about the recipes and procedures because that's more procedures because that's more procedures because that's more important. It's the app. important. It's the app. important. It's the app. In the book I name every IoT platform In the book I name every IoT platform In the book I name every IoT platform and every edge thing you've ever and every edge thing you've ever and every edge thing you've ever heard of. It's as if this heard of. It's as if this heard of. It's as if this works with all of them. They're all works with all of them. They're all ... I used to say this a long time ago ... I used to say this a long time ago ... I used to say this a long time ago and, you know, it probably wasn't a and, you know, it probably wasn't a and, you know, it probably wasn't a good thing. It was like, you know, I mean good thing. It was like, you know, I mean , this is even from the Azure , this is even from the Azure , this is even from the Azure IoT days. At 30,000 feet, everything IoT days. At 30,000 feet, everything IoT days. At 30,000 feet, everything looks the same to me. There is an endpoint that looks the same to me. There is an endpoint that looks the same to me. There is an endpoint that sends data somewhere and does something sends data somewhere and does something sends data somewhere and does something with it. Space science, baby.

with it. Space science, baby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, you're much cooler. You're a Yes, you're much cooler. You're a Yes, you're much cooler. You're a Martha Stewart instead of a Julia Martha Stewart instead of a Julia Martha Stewart instead of a Julia Child. Child. Child. I want... Actually, I don't want to be a I want... Actually, I don't want to be a I want... Actually, I don't want to be a Martha Stewart. I really want to Martha Stewart. I really want to Martha Stewart. I really want to be that guy. I want to be the bear. be that guy. I want to be the bear. be that guy. I want to be the bear. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. The bear. I want to be that kind of chef. The bear. I want to be that kind of chef. The bear. I want to be that kind of chef. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes. I can...I'm getting really Yes. I can...I'm getting really Yes. I can...I'm getting really good at making a nice, crispy steak good at making a nice, crispy steak good at making a nice, crispy steak with a good crust. And I with a good crust. And I with a good crust. And I think that translates into this book think that translates into this book think that translates into this book of technological recipes. So, of technological recipes. So, of technological recipes. So, remember, you know, in short, be an remember, you know, in short, be an remember, you know, in short, be an IoT chef. And live from IoT chef. And live from IoT chef. And live from Amsterdam. Yes, we said goodbye. Amsterdam. Yes, we said goodbye. Amsterdam. Yes, we said goodbye. Stay tuned, okay, because Stay tuned, okay, because Stay tuned, okay, because we have a lot of exciting things to we have a lot of exciting things to we have a lot of exciting things to come. Yes. Over and out. Over and come. Yes. Over and out. Over and come. Yes. Over and out. Over and out.