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iOT Coffee Talk January 11, 2023 1h 3m

IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 138 - Our CES 2023 Episode,.... sort of

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  1. 23. how's it going guys 23. how's it going guys it's great how's it going with you guys it's great how's it going with you guys it's great how's it going with you guys already January 11th I know can you already January 11th I know can you already January 11th I know can you believe it we're already in 2023 how did believe it we're already in 2023 how did believe it we're already in 2023 how did that happen that happen that happen happy New Year everybody merry new year happy New Year everybody merry new year happy New Year everybody merry new year is how we say it on iot coffee talk is how we say it on iot coffee talk is how we say it on iot coffee talk right yes it is you know hey yeah I'm right yes it is you know hey yeah I'm right yes it is you know hey yeah I'm doing some static doing some static doing some static there you go then it went away so it there you go then it went away so it there you go then it went away so it went away yeah you know see this is went away yeah you know see this is went away yeah you know see this is really obnoxious because it blocks my really obnoxious because it blocks my really obnoxious because it blocks my Mac Mac Mac yes yes yes and the Mac in the background is much and the Mac in the background is much and the Mac in the background is much better aesthetic and I have Jimi Hendrix better aesthetic and I have Jimi Hendrix better aesthetic and I have Jimi Hendrix right there and then that's Eddie right there and then that's Eddie right there and then that's Eddie Van Halen Van Halen Van Halen you know instead of having that you know instead of having that you know instead of having that I have this yeah gigantic microphone in I have this yeah gigantic microphone in I have this yeah gigantic microphone in the foreground so it kind of sucks hey the foreground so it kind of sucks hey the foreground so it kind of sucks hey you know we got to be broadcast quality you know we got to be broadcast quality you know we got to be broadcast quality like we were last week like we were last week like we were last week You know what last week after I was like You know what last week after I was like You know what last week after I was like you know what we shouldn't even ship you know what we shouldn't even ship you know what we shouldn't even ship that one the audio quality was so that one the audio quality was so that one the audio quality was so horrible on that one yeah horrible on that one yeah horrible on that one yeah but you know what if we had 6G it would but you know what if we had 6G it would but you know what if we had 6G it would have been better oh yeah have been better oh yeah have been better oh yeah no actually if we had 2G it would have no actually if we had 2G it would have no actually if we had 2G it would have been better that's true 2G would have been better that's true 2G would have been better that's true 2G would have been better actually right so it was been better actually right so it was been better actually right so it was voiced but no but no video yeah voiced but no but no video yeah voiced but no but no video yeah video and uh and talk yeah

  2. video and uh and talk yeah video and uh and talk yeah but but see that that's the thing is the but but see that that's the thing is the but but see that that's the thing is the real stuff is gritty real real stuff is real stuff is gritty real real stuff is real stuff is gritty real real stuff is gritty manufactured stuff is polished gritty manufactured stuff is polished gritty manufactured stuff is polished you know and we're we're totally you know and we're we're totally you know and we're we're totally rationalize the horrible quality of the rationalize the horrible quality of the rationalize the horrible quality of the audience each week by saying oh that's audience each week by saying oh that's audience each week by saying oh that's pretty people want that they want that pretty people want that they want that pretty people want that they want that grit to make it real you know I totally grit to make it real you know I totally grit to make it real you know I totally I totally get it yes yes I mean uh I totally get it yes yes I mean uh I totally get it yes yes I mean uh that's how we sell the show which by the that's how we sell the show which by the that's how we sell the show which by the way it's funny that you the the many New way it's funny that you the the many New way it's funny that you the the many New Year thing because I guess I was Year thing because I guess I was Year thing because I guess I was watching watching watching um the Golden Globes last night and um the Golden Globes last night and um the Golden Globes last night and Eddie Murphy got the Cecil deep little Eddie Murphy got the Cecil deep little Eddie Murphy got the Cecil deep little Lifetime Achievement Award and so so Lifetime Achievement Award and so so Lifetime Achievement Award and so so they are showing they were showing you they are showing they were showing you they are showing they were showing you like you always do the Montage of all like you always do the Montage of all like you always do the Montage of all the movies that you've been in and so the movies that you've been in and so the movies that you've been in and so you absolutely had that scene with Eddie you absolutely had that scene with Eddie you absolutely had that scene with Eddie Murphy and the crane Murphy and the crane Murphy and the crane you know and so that was great hey Bill you know and so that was great hey Bill you know and so that was great hey Bill oh hey Bill what's up man oh hey Bill what's up man oh hey Bill what's up man yes there's plenty you know yeah see I'm telling you we are going down see I'm telling you we are going down foreign yeah we're we are going to start a uh yeah we're we are going to start a uh Trading Places Revival it's going to be Trading Places Revival it's going to be Trading Places Revival it's going to be I I'm telling you like I said last week I I'm telling you like I said last week I I'm telling you like I said last week uh it's gonna be uh it's gonna be uh it's gonna be gonna be the thing yeah great movie it's

  3. gonna be the thing yeah great movie it's gonna be the thing yeah great movie it's a great movie it's funny and what when a great movie it's funny and what when a great movie it's funny and what when it when did it come out in like 80 it when did it come out in like 80 it when did it come out in like 80 something 80 87. like all the great something 80 87. like all the great something 80 87. like all the great things it came out in the 87. yeah wow things it came out in the 87. yeah wow things it came out in the 87. yeah wow yeah yeah so there's a lot of folks who yeah yeah so there's a lot of folks who yeah yeah so there's a lot of folks who haven't never seen it but you know it's haven't never seen it but you know it's haven't never seen it but you know it's a it's a really great movie right it's a it's a really great movie right it's a it's a really great movie right it's great social economic commentary if you great social economic commentary if you great social economic commentary if you think about it I made my kids watch it think about it I made my kids watch it think about it I made my kids watch it yeah yeah my kids watch all the 80s yeah yeah my kids watch all the 80s yeah yeah my kids watch all the 80s movies Weird Science yeah movies Weird Science yeah movies Weird Science yeah you guys watch them back then I I was in here I grew up in Romania you I I was in here I grew up in Romania you know yeah like in the 80s I was making know yeah like in the 80s I was making know yeah like in the 80s I was making my my first trip to the German my my first trip to the German my my first trip to the German Democratic Republic Berlin when I was in you know young High Berlin when I was in you know young High School School School oh wow it was amazing and it was the oh wow it was amazing and it was the oh wow it was amazing and it was the East Berlin it was amazing wow that's East Berlin it was amazing wow that's East Berlin it was amazing wow that's pretty wild yeah I mean don't don't pretty wild yeah I mean don't don't pretty wild yeah I mean don't don't don't feel bad I mean I I don't know the don't feel bad I mean I I don't know the don't feel bad I mean I I don't know the lyrics to All Things uh uh odd Lang Syne lyrics to All Things uh uh odd Lang Syne lyrics to All Things uh uh odd Lang Syne so you know we all have like little so you know we all have like little so you know we all have like little cultural gaps here and there we can't be cultural gaps here and there we can't be cultural gaps here and there we can't be entirely worldly people you know what entirely worldly people you know what entirely worldly people you know what I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying talk about 80s 80s music yeah I'm talk about 80s 80s music yeah I'm talk about 80s 80s music yeah I'm totally with you totally with you totally with you um because you know music was widespread um because you know music was widespread um because you know music was widespread and it was difficult to block it even in and it was difficult to block it even in and it was difficult to block it even in in Eastern Europe you know we didn't

  4. in Eastern Europe you know we didn't in Eastern Europe you know we didn't have access to the music you had here have access to the music you had here have access to the music you had here but it was impossible to totally block but it was impossible to totally block but it was impossible to totally block it we had it we had it we had Outlets various Outlets illegal Outlets Outlets various Outlets illegal Outlets Outlets various Outlets illegal Outlets radio for your voice yeah radio for your voice yeah radio for your voice yeah but when it comes to movies is different but when it comes to movies is different but when it comes to movies is different story yeah you might have a whole book story yeah you might have a whole book story yeah you might have a whole book worth of stuff to write about growing up worth of stuff to write about growing up worth of stuff to write about growing up on the other side of the Iron Curtain on the other side of the Iron Curtain on the other side of the Iron Curtain uh yeah yeah actually I I do lots of uh yeah yeah actually I I do lots of uh yeah yeah actually I I do lots of things to write about you're right things to write about you're right things to write about you're right you're right yeah yeah you need to pause you're right yeah yeah you need to pause you're right yeah yeah you need to pause and gather all that and gather all that and gather all that um man maybe you should or or you know um man maybe you should or or you know um man maybe you should or or you know record your voice or you know as you record your voice or you know as you record your voice or you know as you think of things you know on your phone think of things you know on your phone think of things you know on your phone or whatever because or whatever because or whatever because a lot of people obviously in America a lot of people obviously in America a lot of people obviously in America have no idea what it was like to be on have no idea what it was like to be on have no idea what it was like to be on that side of the curtain right right and that side of the curtain right right and that side of the curtain right right and the you know I don't want to take too the you know I don't want to take too the you know I don't want to take too much time with us but I would say the much time with us but I would say the much time with us but I would say the interesting thing with my life there is interesting thing with my life there is interesting thing with my life there is that you know my family had been that you know my family had been that you know my family had been persecuted and ever since the end of persecuted and ever since the end of persecuted and ever since the end of World War II World War II World War II and my dad had been in prison my and my dad had been in prison my and my dad had been in prison my grandfather was in prison and I played grandfather was in prison and I played grandfather was in prison and I played in prison my family became in prison my family became in prison my family became um very I don't say poor but all their um very I don't say poor but all their um very I don't say poor but all their assets had were common assets had were common assets had were common um um um lots of persecutional to persecution and lots of persecutional to persecution and lots of persecutional to persecution and uh and then I grew up with a mother who uh and then I grew up with a mother who uh and then I grew up with a mother who you know saw the benefits of adhering to you know saw the benefits of adhering to you know saw the benefits of adhering to the Communist Party even though she was

  5. the Communist Party even though she was the Communist Party even though she was not a Believer but she said you know you not a Believer but she said you know you not a Believer but she said you know you need to be part of the organization need to be part of the organization need to be part of the organization because you'll never have a chance for a because you'll never have a chance for a because you'll never have a chance for a job yeah a father who said job yeah a father who said job yeah a father who said Over My Dead Body Over My Dead Body Over My Dead Body I don't care what you you know where I don't care what you you know where I don't care what you you know where what you end up doing but do not belong what you end up doing but do not belong what you end up doing but do not belong there and it was this tug of war in my there and it was this tug of war in my there and it was this tug of war in my house no no anyway and then the 89 came house no no anyway and then the 89 came house no no anyway and then the 89 came and the rest is history and yeah anyway and the rest is history and yeah anyway and the rest is history and yeah anyway yeah yeah yeah I I but I I I but I I I but I in the universe I did study we had a five years test I did study we had a five years test loosen switch loosen switch loosen switch our University and I specialize in our University and I specialize in our University and I specialize in data trans telecommunications and data data trans telecommunications and data data trans telecommunications and data transmission and we studied that five transmission and we studied that five transmission and we studied that five years the switch and that was the most years the switch and that was the most years the switch and that was the most modern thing we had to put our hands on modern thing we had to put our hands on modern thing we had to put our hands on yeah yeah yeah what a great story what a great story what a great story I mean you know I know what's I mean you know I know what's I mean you know I know what's interesting fragments that are not interesting fragments that are not interesting fragments that are not really connected but anyway no no no no really connected but anyway no no no no really connected but anyway no no no no no I mean that's that's sort of our no I mean that's that's sort of our no I mean that's that's sort of our motive operations here is is just motive operations here is is just motive operations here is is just Mindless disconnected conversation but Mindless disconnected conversation but Mindless disconnected conversation but uh uh uh um um um no it's really interesting how uh folks no it's really interesting how uh folks no it's really interesting how uh folks who have had everything taken away from who have had everything taken away from who have had everything taken away from them once they get transplanted them once they get transplanted them once they get transplanted somewhere else where there's opportunity

  6. somewhere else where there's opportunity somewhere else where there's opportunity they they flourish again you know and they they flourish again you know and they they flourish again you know and and those are great stories right and uh and those are great stories right and uh and those are great stories right and uh there was this gentleman that uh on there was this gentleman that uh on there was this gentleman that uh on LinkedIn who posted uh this uh thing LinkedIn who posted uh this uh thing LinkedIn who posted uh this uh thing about uh about uh about uh um what do you call it uh the chairman um what do you call it uh the chairman um what do you call it uh the chairman of Hyundai Corporation is very very well of Hyundai Corporation is very very well of Hyundai Corporation is very very well let's call it destitute beginnings and let's call it destitute beginnings and let's call it destitute beginnings and how I became one of the richest most how I became one of the richest most how I became one of the richest most powerful men in South Korea and they're powerful men in South Korea and they're powerful men in South Korea and they're asking the question well can we ever can asking the question well can we ever can asking the question well can we ever can Americans ever be like that and as like Americans ever be like that and as like Americans ever be like that and as like well it depends how hungry have you been well it depends how hungry have you been well it depends how hungry have you been you know and I think that's one of the you know and I think that's one of the you know and I think that's one of the beautiful things about immigration is beautiful things about immigration is beautiful things about immigration is you bring a tremendous Vigor and energy you bring a tremendous Vigor and energy you bring a tremendous Vigor and energy uh amongst these folks who usually many uh amongst these folks who usually many uh amongst these folks who usually many occasions right uh come from less occasions right uh come from less occasions right uh come from less fortunate circumstances or even fortunate circumstances or even fortunate circumstances or even desperate circumstances and and then you desperate circumstances and and then you desperate circumstances and and then you know you and I'm not saying all of them know you and I'm not saying all of them know you and I'm not saying all of them but some of them uh become great people but some of them uh become great people but some of them uh become great people you know and I think it's just uh well you know and I think it's just uh well you know and I think it's just uh well Rick posted recently was it rick not Rick posted recently was it rick not Rick posted recently was it rick not posted that posted that posted that you know um or it was a response that I you know um or it was a response that I you know um or it was a response that I I put out to him is it's the adversity I put out to him is it's the adversity I put out to him is it's the adversity that builds our character right and then that builds our character right and then that builds our character right and then how it's the adversity that if we have how it's the adversity that if we have how it's the adversity that if we have the right character we can do great the right character we can do great the right character we can do great things and so you know I think uh like things and so you know I think uh like things and so you know I think uh like what everyone goes through uh the thing

  7. what everyone goes through uh the thing what everyone goes through uh the thing is it's like a test of character is it's like a test of character is it's like a test of character especially like what we were talking especially like what we were talking especially like what we were talking about yesterday or last week about about yesterday or last week about about yesterday or last week about um everyone now soul searching uh you um everyone now soul searching uh you um everyone now soul searching uh you know in our the latter parts of our know in our the latter parts of our know in our the latter parts of our careers I think there's a lot of people careers I think there's a lot of people careers I think there's a lot of people doing that and you know I think the doing that and you know I think the doing that and you know I think the early part is a test of character and early part is a test of character and early part is a test of character and then you find direction what do you have then you find direction what do you have then you find direction what do you have the courage for to go forward with and the courage for to go forward with and the courage for to go forward with and um anyway so speaking of uh just random um anyway so speaking of uh just random um anyway so speaking of uh just random directions and conversations and putting directions and conversations and putting directions and conversations and putting crime together there you go so let's crime together there you go so let's crime together there you go so let's talk about CEs before our audience gets talk about CEs before our audience gets talk about CEs before our audience gets really hell aboard and bill you gotta really hell aboard and bill you gotta really hell aboard and bill you gotta chime in you have to explain why your chime in you have to explain why your chime in you have to explain why your ass was not there ass was not there ass was not there so I mean look I was planning to be so I mean look I was planning to be so I mean look I was planning to be there totally had bought the ticket had there totally had bought the ticket had there totally had bought the ticket had reservations and everything but it's reservations and everything but it's reservations and everything but it's it's typical I mean at the end of the it's typical I mean at the end of the it's typical I mean at the end of the year every city that I work with goes year every city that I work with goes year every city that I work with goes from the same thing they're scrambling from the same thing they're scrambling from the same thing they're scrambling to get ready for the next year because to get ready for the next year because to get ready for the next year because they know that people are going to start they know that people are going to start they know that people are going to start disappearing at the end of the month and disappearing at the end of the month and disappearing at the end of the month and then come the first of the year they then come the first of the year they then come the first of the year they start pounding to get meetings on on start pounding to get meetings on on start pounding to get meetings on on Deck oh and and one of one of the cities Deck oh and and one of one of the cities Deck oh and and one of one of the cities that I'm working with is which is you that I'm working with is which is you that I'm working with is which is you know helping them establish their Smart know helping them establish their Smart know helping them establish their Smart City strategy they're doing a lot of City strategy they're doing a lot of City strategy they're doing a lot of things but typical of almost every city things but typical of almost every city things but typical of almost every city they're siled they're not sharing data they're siled they're not sharing data they're siled they're not sharing data inside they don't have a supportive city

  8. inside they don't have a supportive city inside they don't have a supportive city council and and they're like hey we council and and they're like hey we council and and they're like hey we heard you can help and so it is as a heard you can help and so it is as a heard you can help and so it is as a matter of fact I have to jump at the top matter of fact I have to jump at the top matter of fact I have to jump at the top of the hour to meet with them again of the hour to meet with them again of the hour to meet with them again they're they're I mean they're in the they're they're I mean they're in the they're they're I mean they're in the Bay Area they are progressive but this Bay Area they are progressive but this Bay Area they are progressive but this old Smart City thing man when people are old Smart City thing man when people are old Smart City thing man when people are talking about it and advertising it talking about it and advertising it talking about it and advertising it there are only a handful of them that there are only a handful of them that there are only a handful of them that I've seen actually executing on it so I've seen actually executing on it so I've seen actually executing on it so that was that was my reason they they that was that was my reason they they that was that was my reason they they said we we want to kick this off right said we we want to kick this off right said we we want to kick this off right now we want you know can you be there now we want you know can you be there now we want you know can you be there and I'm like yeah yeah but uh I did have I did have my folks but uh I did have I did have my folks there running through looking at it and there running through looking at it and there running through looking at it and Reporting back to me about Reporting back to me about Reporting back to me about how many smart toilets they saw oh dude how many smart toilets they saw oh dude how many smart toilets they saw oh dude even I know about those things yeah you even I know about those things yeah you even I know about those things yeah you can go to see us yeah yeah man I'm can go to see us yeah yeah man I'm can go to see us yeah yeah man I'm telling you man it's like that whole you telling you man it's like that whole you telling you man it's like that whole you know sniff your butt sensors know sniff your butt sensors know sniff your butt sensors to get Healthcare data man I'm tough you to get Healthcare data man I'm tough you to get Healthcare data man I'm tough you know what right now you know what this guy he just you could you know what this guy he just you could never be a doctor that's the thing rob never be a doctor that's the thing rob never be a doctor that's the thing rob you can never be a doctor you can never be a doctor you can never be a doctor fertilizer yeah urine analysis you're an analysis yeah urine analysis you're an analysis for early diabetes yeah oh yeah I mean

  9. for early diabetes yeah oh yeah I mean for early diabetes yeah oh yeah I mean it it was I mean I was I they kept they it it was I mean I was I they kept they it it was I mean I was I they kept they were like sending me stuff and I'm like were like sending me stuff and I'm like were like sending me stuff and I'm like are you kidding me I mean it was like are you kidding me I mean it was like are you kidding me I mean it was like one after the other after the other and one after the other after the other and one after the other after the other and I'm like yeah how many of you are there I'm like yeah how many of you are there I'm like yeah how many of you are there you know you know you know yeah yeah yeah when we hear so much about diabetes and when we hear so much about diabetes and when we hear so much about diabetes and we think okay it's a it's a done deal we think okay it's a it's a done deal we think okay it's a it's a done deal people have diabetes right and more and people have diabetes right and more and people have diabetes right and more and more people have diabetes is because of more people have diabetes is because of more people have diabetes is because of the diet well that's the way it is okay the diet well that's the way it is okay the diet well that's the way it is okay it makes sense there are findings and so it makes sense there are findings and so it makes sense there are findings and so on no we should not settle for that on no we should not settle for that on no we should not settle for that right yeah we should we should try to right yeah we should we should try to right yeah we should we should try to catch Things Early catch Things Early catch Things Early um and prevent prevent having to take um and prevent prevent having to take um and prevent prevent having to take medicine medicine medicine yeah well iot we're going to find out yeah well iot we're going to find out yeah well iot we're going to find out early we're going to nip it in the bud early we're going to nip it in the bud early we're going to nip it in the bud exactly everything dude I mean but you exactly everything dude I mean but you exactly everything dude I mean but you know that's exactly it you know rob you know that's exactly it you know rob you know that's exactly it you know rob you always talk about hey let's you know if always talk about hey let's you know if always talk about hey let's you know if you can't measure it you can't what is you can't measure it you can't what is you can't measure it you can't what is it you can't manage it if you can't uh it you can't manage it if you can't uh it you can't manage it if you can't uh you can't measure it right that's what you can't measure it right that's what you can't measure it right that's what you said did I just like Jack that whole you said did I just like Jack that whole you said did I just like Jack that whole thing up I'm sorry bro thing up I'm sorry bro thing up I'm sorry bro in his grave right now as you butcher a in his grave right now as you butcher a in his grave right now as you butcher a variation on his quote variation on his quote variation on his quote okay my apologies okay my apologies okay my apologies um so uh but yeah I mean can you imagine um so uh but yeah I mean can you imagine um so uh but yeah I mean can you imagine you know what do we have to do today we you know what do we have to do today we you know what do we have to do today we have to go to the make an appointment go have to go to the make an appointment go have to go to the make an appointment go to the hospital or actually you have to to the hospital or actually you have to to the hospital or actually you have to get an appointment or a uh whatever get an appointment or a uh whatever get an appointment or a uh whatever referral to a lab from your physician

  10. referral to a lab from your physician referral to a lab from your physician then you have to go and schedule an then you have to go and schedule an then you have to go and schedule an appointment go to the lab get your your appointment go to the lab get your your appointment go to the lab get your your um blood drawn or they send you a kit um blood drawn or they send you a kit um blood drawn or they send you a kit you crap in a hat and then you have to you crap in a hat and then you have to you crap in a hat and then you have to do all the nasty stuff and send that do all the nasty stuff and send that do all the nasty stuff and send that stuff back it you know it's ridiculous stuff back it you know it's ridiculous stuff back it you know it's ridiculous right but if you can have these sensors right but if you can have these sensors right but if you can have these sensors on your toilet or whatever it could be on your toilet or whatever it could be on your toilet or whatever it could be the feet smelling thing is it feet the feet smelling thing is it feet the feet smelling thing is it feet smelling or is it the steps thing the smelling or is it the steps thing the smelling or is it the steps thing the biometric the the socks that you were biometric the the socks that you were biometric the the socks that you were talking about last week yeah if you're talking about last week yeah if you're talking about last week yeah if you're aware of you know potential condition aware of you know potential condition aware of you know potential condition that you might have or be developing that you might have or be developing that you might have or be developing based on then you have a visibility to based on then you have a visibility to based on then you have a visibility to your to your health Trend right and then your to your health Trend right and then your to your health Trend right and then you can adjust your behavior accordingly you can adjust your behavior accordingly you can adjust your behavior accordingly work with your doctor your physical uh work with your doctor your physical uh work with your doctor your physical uh therapist that's a great when you and I were at the blues when you and I were at the blues Wireless Booth yeah yes Wireless Booth yeah yes Wireless Booth yeah yes they were showcasing their customers who they were showcasing their customers who they were showcasing their customers who were using their Tech right which is were using their Tech right which is were using their Tech right which is always a cool way to do it instead of always a cool way to do it instead of always a cool way to do it instead of just pitching your product over and over just pitching your product over and over just pitching your product over and over let your customers sell your products let your customers sell your products let your customers sell your products and no doubt about it one of them and no doubt about it one of them and no doubt about it one of them they showed the soles of the shoes with they showed the soles of the shoes with they showed the soles of the shoes with embedded stuff in it you know embedded stuff in it you know embedded stuff in it you know um and temperature readings you know um and temperature readings you know um and temperature readings you know I'd probably confused it with another I'd probably confused it with another I'd probably confused it with another booth for all I know but you know yeah booth for all I know but you know yeah booth for all I know but you know yeah okay okay okay Wireless it might have been someone Wireless it might have been someone Wireless it might have been someone else's but we're gonna go with it I was else's but we're gonna go with it I was else's but we're gonna go with it I was sitting here wondering what is

  11. I wasn't I wasn't Boost Wireless is there to try to I'd Boost Wireless is there to try to I'd Boost Wireless is there to try to I'd say for a certain group of people doing say for a certain group of people doing say for a certain group of people doing iot they're going to reduce friction so iot they're going to reduce friction so iot they're going to reduce friction so you know you've got your iot devices and you know you've got your iot devices and you know you've got your iot devices and it could be whatever connectivity blah it could be whatever connectivity blah it could be whatever connectivity blah blah blah and you got to go into your blah blah and you got to go into your blah blah and you got to go into your platform platform platform so what these guys at Blues do and so what these guys at Blues do and so what these guys at Blues do and that's that's that's that's that's that's um Mo Bean con that we you know from a t um Mo Bean con that we you know from a t um Mo Bean con that we you know from a t uh Ray Aussie is the CEO you know we met uh Ray Aussie is the CEO you know we met uh Ray Aussie is the CEO you know we met we spent a lot of time a lot of people we spent a lot of time a lot of people we spent a lot of time a lot of people so this little guy here so this little guy here so this little guy here is this little board they give you look is this little board they give you look is this little board they give you look at the bottom oh that looks like a at the bottom oh that looks like a at the bottom oh that looks like a cellular module doesn't it so they have cellular module doesn't it so they have cellular module doesn't it so they have that that that and you plug it into this thing and they and you plug it into this thing and they and you plug it into this thing and they have a bunch of these different kind of have a bunch of these different kind of have a bunch of these different kind of carrier board type things notice the carrier board type things notice the carrier board type things notice the ignion antenna here ignion antenna here ignion antenna here are good friends that we will see again are good friends that we will see again are good friends that we will see again at iot stars in Barcelona soon at iot stars in Barcelona soon at iot stars in Barcelona soon anyway you pop it in here what they do anyway you pop it in here what they do anyway you pop it in here what they do is they're shortcutting a lot of steps is they're shortcutting a lot of steps is they're shortcutting a lot of steps like if you were doing a cellular iot like if you were doing a cellular iot like if you were doing a cellular iot device you actually have to get it device you actually have to get it device you actually have to get it certified certified certified by the government which can be over a by the government which can be over a by the government which can be over a million dollars to do that just the million dollars to do that just the million dollars to do that just the whole certification process whole certification process whole certification process [Music] [Music] [Music] these guys it's all Json these guys it's all Json these guys it's all Json and you use Json to program it to get it and you use Json to program it to get it and you use Json to program it to get it going it's super simple and then it acts going it's super simple and then it acts going it's super simple and then it acts like a data problem and so normally you like a data problem and so normally you like a data problem and so normally you have an SDK that's a software have an SDK that's a software have an SDK that's a software development kit kids and you would write development kit kids and you would write development kit kids and you would write code on your device to send it to your code on your device to send it to your code on your device to send it to your iot platform whichever one you're iot platform whichever one you're iot platform whichever one you're picking to do identity security and kind

  12. picking to do identity security and kind picking to do identity security and kind of bundle serialize that data from all of bundle serialize that data from all of bundle serialize that data from all the sensors and send it on its way like the sensors and send it on its way like the sensors and send it on its way like as Json or something well these guys as Json or something well these guys as Json or something well these guys short circuit that they automatically do short circuit that they automatically do short circuit that they automatically do all that stuff for you so all the steps all that stuff for you so all the steps all that stuff for you so all the steps the security the encryption pumping the the security the encryption pumping the the security the encryption pumping the sensor data they they send it to their sensor data they they send it to their sensor data they they send it to their Cloud but they're not interested in Cloud but they're not interested in Cloud but they're not interested in being in that game it's more like a data being in that game it's more like a data being in that game it's more like a data pop and it's kind of a way station and pop and it's kind of a way station and pop and it's kind of a way station and so they have a secure tunnel the data so they have a secure tunnel the data so they have a secure tunnel the data goes there and then you have an option goes there and then you have an option goes there and then you have an option as a customer you can either pull to get as a customer you can either pull to get as a customer you can either pull to get the data they have web hooks so it'll the data they have web hooks so it'll the data they have web hooks so it'll automatically shoot the data at your iot automatically shoot the data at your iot automatically shoot the data at your iot platform and they've also got some platform and they've also got some platform and they've also got some pre-built Integrations with some iot pre-built Integrations with some iot pre-built Integrations with some iot platforms so the data kind of goes up platforms so the data kind of goes up platforms so the data kind of goes up and then goes into your platform under and then goes into your platform under and then goes into your platform under the side door instead of the front door the side door instead of the front door the side door instead of the front door anyway yeah you know if there's 100 anyway yeah you know if there's 100 anyway yeah you know if there's 100 steps to take to get your iot stuff steps to take to get your iot stuff steps to take to get your iot stuff going they just removed you know 50 or going they just removed you know 50 or going they just removed you know 50 or 60 or 70 of those steps yeah no that's 60 or 70 of those steps yeah no that's 60 or 70 of those steps yeah no that's cool I sound like cool I sound like cool I sound like to go through you still have to go to go through you still have to go to go through you still have to go through some level of certification through some level of certification through some level of certification carrier certification right there are help me understand that because they help me understand that because they already did it if the module if the already did it if the module if the already did it if the module if the module if you got module level module if you got module level module if you got module level certification I get it certification I get it certification I get it when you put that when you put it on a when you put that when you put it on a when you put that when you put it on a carrier board that carrier board hasn't carrier board that carrier board hasn't carrier board that carrier board hasn't has what what certifications does the has what what certifications does the has what what certifications does the carrier board have carrier board have carrier board have apparently they've got so they have

  13. apparently they've got so they have apparently they've got so they have multiple boards to choose from and multiple boards to choose from and multiple boards to choose from and they're all certified so this thing can they're all certified so this thing can they're all certified so this thing can be by itself and but they have a be by itself and but they have a be by itself and but they have a Raspberry Pi hat version they've got Raspberry Pi hat version they've got Raspberry Pi hat version they've got Shield versions for Arduino Shield versions for Arduino Shield versions for Arduino they've got stuff to work with esp's 32s they've got stuff to work with esp's 32s they've got stuff to work with esp's 32s you know um you know um you know um you'd have to you can obviously go you'd have to you can obviously go you'd have to you can obviously go online and check it out but they've online and check it out but they've online and check it out but they've already done all that stuff so you just already done all that stuff so you just already done all that stuff so you just it really is you don't have to worry it really is you don't have to worry it really is you don't have to worry about all that certification stuff about all that certification stuff about all that certification stuff um they have different sizes I'll take a um they have different sizes I'll take a um they have different sizes I'll take a look I'll take a look because I'm look I'll take a look because I'm look I'll take a look because I'm interested I'm interested in the in in interested I'm interested in the in in interested I'm interested in the in in that in that end of it because I mean that in that end of it because I mean that in that end of it because I mean granted it I think it's awesome if you granted it I think it's awesome if you granted it I think it's awesome if you can reduce the friction to the point can reduce the friction to the point can reduce the friction to the point because you know the whole the whole because you know the whole the whole because you know the whole the whole type certification carrier certification type certification carrier certification type certification carrier certification all of that stuff is painful and time all of that stuff is painful and time all of that stuff is painful and time consuming and keeps people from consuming and keeps people from consuming and keeps people from innovating it is and so what you did I innovating it is and so what you did I innovating it is and so what you did I would also say it's kind of a would also say it's kind of a would also say it's kind of a combination like if you're familiar with combination like if you're familiar with combination like if you're familiar with once once once which you know came out of Deutsche which you know came out of Deutsche which you know came out of Deutsche Telecom you know they made a lot of buzz Telecom you know they made a lot of buzz Telecom you know they made a lot of buzz in the market you know for the Sim iot in the market you know for the Sim iot in the market you know for the Sim iot Sim deal when they said here's a single Sim deal when they said here's a single Sim deal when they said here's a single plan I don't know what was like ten plan I don't know what was like ten plan I don't know what was like ten dollars up front and you get 10 years of dollars up front and you get 10 years of dollars up front and you get 10 years of data it was like 500 mag or something data it was like 500 mag or something data it was like 500 mag or something like that nbit or ltem Global that kind like that nbit or ltem Global that kind like that nbit or ltem Global that kind of thing you just paid one time and then of thing you just paid one time and then of thing you just paid one time and then you're good to go instead of hitting you you're good to go instead of hitting you you're good to go instead of hitting you every month every month every month so Blues It's a combination of that and so Blues It's a combination of that and so Blues It's a combination of that and the hardware the plan like when you buy

  14. the hardware the plan like when you buy the hardware the plan like when you buy this from them you know and they have this from them you know and they have this from them you know and they have they have full kits they also have a they have full kits they also have a they have full kits they also have a Laurel Land kit as well which I can talk Laurel Land kit as well which I can talk Laurel Land kit as well which I can talk about but about but about but um um um the data is included in the price of the data is included in the price of the data is included in the price of this and so you you buy the hardware the this and so you you buy the hardware the this and so you you buy the hardware the prices of Hardware is coming down we prices of Hardware is coming down we prices of Hardware is coming down we talked about that Leonard and I we're talked about that Leonard and I we're talked about that Leonard and I we're talking about the booth you know they're talking about the booth you know they're talking about the booth you know they're just saying that the price of all this just saying that the price of all this just saying that the price of all this gear is dropping and dropping and gear is dropping and dropping and gear is dropping and dropping and dropping yeah so and so the 10 years of dropping yeah so and so the 10 years of dropping yeah so and so the 10 years of data is included data is included data is included um and so you could just you know and so um and so you could just you know and so um and so you could just you know and so uh the funny story from 2022 as Leonard uh the funny story from 2022 as Leonard uh the funny story from 2022 as Leonard and I have shared was me trying to get and I have shared was me trying to get and I have shared was me trying to get one of these things to work one of these things to work one of these things to work I was trying to find good signal to get I was trying to find good signal to get I was trying to find good signal to get a bootstrap the first time you know on a bootstrap the first time you know on a bootstrap the first time you know on cellular and so was I don't know last cellular and so was I don't know last cellular and so was I don't know last summer or something like that I was summer or something like that I was summer or something like that I was literally parked in the parking lot of a literally parked in the parking lot of a literally parked in the parking lot of a Walmart I had this thing sitting on the Walmart I had this thing sitting on the Walmart I had this thing sitting on the dashboard of my car you know where I dashboard of my car you know where I dashboard of my car you know where I could see the see the light could see the see the light could see the see the light um and see the cellular and um and then um and see the cellular and um and then um and see the cellular and um and then I've got my laptop or maybe yeah or I've got my laptop or maybe yeah or I've got my laptop or maybe yeah or maybe an iPad or something on cellular maybe an iPad or something on cellular maybe an iPad or something on cellular and on the link down chat chatting with and on the link down chat chatting with and on the link down chat chatting with Mark who's Mark who's Mark who's and he we're troubleshooting and he's and he we're troubleshooting and he's and he we're troubleshooting and he's still telling me the right commands to still telling me the right commands to still telling me the right commands to send to this thing through the terminal send to this thing through the terminal send to this thing through the terminal oh here's another cool thing you oh here's another cool thing you oh here's another cool thing you probably didn't notice did you know probably didn't notice did you know probably didn't notice did you know there was the ability to do a terminal there was the ability to do a terminal there was the ability to do a terminal inside a Chrome browser inside a Chrome browser inside a Chrome browser oh yeah it's a thing I didn't know that oh yeah it's a thing I didn't know that oh yeah it's a thing I didn't know that and so that's that's how Blues Wireless

  15. and so that's that's how Blues Wireless and so that's that's how Blues Wireless gets you started and so you know you get gets you started and so you know you get gets you started and so you know you get your device and you you know you kind of your device and you you know you kind of your device and you you know you kind of get your USB connector to your laptop get your USB connector to your laptop get your USB connector to your laptop and then you put it up in Chrome and you and then you put it up in Chrome and you and then you put it up in Chrome and you go to their web page and all of a sudden go to their web page and all of a sudden go to their web page and all of a sudden it connects and then and then there it connects and then and then there it connects and then and then there here's the cheat sheet of Json commands here's the cheat sheet of Json commands here's the cheat sheet of Json commands to send to it there's no AC commands or to send to it there's no AC commands or to send to it there's no AC commands or weird stuff like that you just send weird stuff like that you just send weird stuff like that you just send Jason and anyway it's Global it's nbiot Jason and anyway it's Global it's nbiot Jason and anyway it's Global it's nbiot it's LTM or you can do just cat M you it's LTM or you can do just cat M you it's LTM or you can do just cat M you know normal LTE I'm gonna go get I'm know normal LTE I'm gonna go get I'm know normal LTE I'm gonna go get I'm gonna go get some and I'm gonna I'm gonna go get some and I'm gonna I'm gonna go get some and I'm gonna I'm gonna play around with it yeah I think gonna play around with it yeah I think gonna play around with it yeah I think it's a great quick way to get a whole it's a great quick way to get a whole it's a great quick way to get a whole lot of stuff to Market fast we can do an lot of stuff to Market fast we can do an lot of stuff to Market fast we can do an introduction customers now introduction customers now introduction customers now who are um their customers some of their who are um their customers some of their who are um their customers some of their customers who are using this customers who are using this customers who are using this they showed industrial customers they they showed industrial customers they they showed industrial customers they showed um I'm trying to remember all the showed um I'm trying to remember all the showed um I'm trying to remember all the I think they had like four different I think they had like four different I think they had like four different customers they showed a industrial customers they showed a industrial customers they showed a industrial Refrigeration customer was there Refrigeration customer was there Refrigeration customer was there okay there was four of them there okay there was four of them there okay there was four of them there um um um well we'll definitely need to have Mo well we'll definitely need to have Mo well we'll definitely need to have Mo being on yeah being on yeah being on yeah they'll come on Jim but hey um bill they'll come on Jim but hey um bill they'll come on Jim but hey um bill before you drop dude before you drop dude before you drop dude um so what did you guys see I mean you um so what did you guys see I mean you um so what did you guys see I mean you had eyes on eyes and ears on the ground had eyes on eyes and ears on the ground had eyes on eyes and ears on the ground so you know obviously you're looking at so you know obviously you're looking at so you know obviously you're looking at like robotic toilets and stuff like that like robotic toilets and stuff like that like robotic toilets and stuff like that but what up what were you looking for but what up what were you looking for but what up what were you looking for and what did you guys uh uncover and what did you guys uh uncover and what did you guys uh uncover I just wanted I just wanted them to find I just wanted I just wanted them to find I just wanted I just wanted them to find me unique stuff stuff that is you know I

  16. me unique stuff stuff that is you know I me unique stuff stuff that is you know I mean people doing things 2023 has to be mean people doing things 2023 has to be mean people doing things 2023 has to be about the year of getting [ __ ] done yeah I mean it has to be it has to be so yeah I mean it has to be it has to be so I asked him specifically go find me go I asked him specifically go find me go I asked him specifically go find me go find me companies that have value find me companies that have value find me companies that have value propositions for digital twins go find propositions for digital twins go find propositions for digital twins go find me companies that have real you know me companies that have real you know me companies that have real you know real use cases and are solving real real use cases and are solving real real use cases and are solving real problems so the I mean that's why they problems so the I mean that's why they problems so the I mean that's why they were like the one of the biggest things were like the one of the biggest things were like the one of the biggest things was was the toilets the the robotic was was the toilets the the robotic was was the toilets the the robotic stuff and everything like that to be stuff and everything like that to be stuff and everything like that to be honest with you I think you still got a honest with you I think you still got a honest with you I think you still got a long way to go yeah long way to go yeah long way to go yeah um there's still a huge proliferation um there's still a huge proliferation um there's still a huge proliferation and confusion around ML and AI and confusion around ML and AI and confusion around ML and AI um you know and what that means they're um you know and what that means they're um you know and what that means they're still conflating the the story so we're still conflating the the story so we're still conflating the the story so we're still seeing a lot of that and that's still seeing a lot of that and that's still seeing a lot of that and that's what that's what we saw what that's what we saw what that's what we saw um there was uh interestingly enough um there was uh interestingly enough um there was uh interestingly enough there was a lot of good stuff going on there was a lot of good stuff going on there was a lot of good stuff going on with the automotive industry and the with the automotive industry and the with the automotive industry and the software for Implement and things of software for Implement and things of software for Implement and things of that nature so they they saw that that nature so they they saw that that nature so they they saw that there's a situation point where I think there's a situation point where I think there's a situation point where I think that the digital twin and this and this that the digital twin and this and this that the digital twin and this and this Automotive stuff is gonna is gonna tie Automotive stuff is gonna is gonna tie Automotive stuff is gonna is gonna tie together because if you really want to together because if you really want to together because if you really want to do the X type stuff you're going to need do the X type stuff you're going to need do the X type stuff you're going to need that and it's not so much on the that and it's not so much on the that and it's not so much on the infotainment side it's really on the infotainment side it's really on the infotainment side it's really on the analytics of the vehicle talking to you analytics of the vehicle talking to you analytics of the vehicle talking to you know infrastructure on the on the know infrastructure on the on the know infrastructure on the on the corridors and on the freeways and corridors and on the freeways and corridors and on the freeways and everything yeah you got to watch my I'm

  17. everything yeah you got to watch my I'm everything yeah you got to watch my I'm going to do a little bit on um uh CV to going to do a little bit on um uh CV to going to do a little bit on um uh CV to X I covered it a little bit on a couple X I covered it a little bit on a couple X I covered it a little bit on a couple of the vignettes that I posted so I'm of the vignettes that I posted so I'm of the vignettes that I posted so I'm doing all these little movies and stuff doing all these little movies and stuff doing all these little movies and stuff uh uh but yeah I took that Qualcomm CV uh uh but yeah I took that Qualcomm CV uh uh but yeah I took that Qualcomm CV to X Tour and we can talk offline man to X Tour and we can talk offline man to X Tour and we can talk offline man um yeah cool that's really really um yeah cool that's really really um yeah cool that's really really interesting no no I mean but you know interesting no no I mean but you know interesting no no I mean but you know the thing is is that a lot of these the thing is is that a lot of these the thing is is that a lot of these things have not come together uh and so things have not come together uh and so things have not come together uh and so you know that's the cool thing about you know that's the cool thing about you know that's the cool thing about going to CES you you see whole different going to CES you you see whole different going to CES you you see whole different domains coming together that need to domains coming together that need to domains coming together that need to come together to solve a bigger problem come together to solve a bigger problem come together to solve a bigger problem like smart cities and it's so fragmented like smart cities and it's so fragmented like smart cities and it's so fragmented and disconnected and people talking past and disconnected and people talking past and disconnected and people talking past each other and I think um you know it's each other and I think um you know it's each other and I think um you know it's the thing that we always do on the shows the thing that we always do on the shows the thing that we always do on the shows well at least I tried to do is I try to well at least I tried to do is I try to well at least I tried to do is I try to try to clarify our language the try to clarify our language the try to clarify our language the semantics are so Twisted that uh people semantics are so Twisted that uh people semantics are so Twisted that uh people are not communicating they can't are not communicating they can't are not communicating they can't communicate communicate communicate because we don't have enough time to because we don't have enough time to because we don't have enough time to explain ourselves right and so you know explain ourselves right and so you know explain ourselves right and so you know somehow over time we need to settle on somehow over time we need to settle on somehow over time we need to settle on certain semantics and Concepts that can certain semantics and Concepts that can certain semantics and Concepts that can help forward the conversation and you help forward the conversation and you help forward the conversation and you know the folks who are going to get to know the folks who are going to get to know the folks who are going to get to Solutions first are going to be the ones Solutions first are going to be the ones Solutions first are going to be the ones who can actually talk to each other and who can actually talk to each other and who can actually talk to each other and so that's why words like Words matter so that's why words like Words matter so that's why words like Words matter tremendously do you know what I'm saying tremendously do you know what I'm saying tremendously do you know what I'm saying and and and um you know one of the things I think is um you know one of the things I think is um you know one of the things I think is really detrimental is when we overload really detrimental is when we overload really detrimental is when we overload stuff to the point where they're stuff to the point where they're stuff to the point where they're meaningless you know and I I saw so much

  18. meaningless you know and I I saw so much meaningless you know and I I saw so much of that it's disgusting you know it of that it's disgusting you know it of that it's disgusting you know it literally trying to be the one bro literally trying to be the one bro literally trying to be the one bro stop it stop it and I gotta drop but hey Mark what's up man hey how's it hey Mark what's up man hey how's it going I'm getting uh off the Christmas I love it where's the teal I love it where's the teal the to is in the forest again back to the to is in the forest again back to the to is in the forest again back to the forest yeah it will come back next year it will come back next year you know uh this year last year's Teo you know uh this year last year's Teo you know uh this year last year's Teo oddly looks very familiar and similar to oddly looks very familiar and similar to oddly looks very familiar and similar to the previous year's Tio so is it like the previous year's Tio so is it like the previous year's Tio so is it like the same to that comes back or the same to that comes back or the same to that comes back or no come on this is like if you say that no come on this is like if you say that no come on this is like if you say that uh the flower the flourish on your roles uh the flower the flourish on your roles uh the flower the flourish on your roles they sustain that the previous one they sustain that the previous one they sustain that the previous one that's not uh that's not true come on that's not uh that's not true come on that's not uh that's not true come on you realize that we have that Tio on you realize that we have that Tio on you realize that we have that Tio on video right I mean we do this

  19. you gotta believe you need to believe you gotta believe you need to believe Leonard I know okay okay okay okay okay Leonard I know okay okay okay okay okay Leonard I know okay okay okay okay okay okay yes okay yes okay yes um my dad dressed up at Santa Claus is um my dad dressed up at Santa Claus is um my dad dressed up at Santa Claus is Santa Claus okay got it got it oh you Santa Claus okay got it got it oh you Santa Claus okay got it got it oh you know shut down the show again know shut down the show again know shut down the show again shut it down you know what uh finally shut it down you know what uh finally shut it down you know what uh finally just go ahead and ruin Christmas for just go ahead and ruin Christmas for just go ahead and ruin Christmas for kids thanks exactly well no that's why kids thanks exactly well no that's why kids thanks exactly well no that's why when I post these videos I explicitly when I post these videos I explicitly when I post these videos I explicitly tag that this is not for kids tag that this is not for kids tag that this is not for kids and I just assume anyone above the age and I just assume anyone above the age and I just assume anyone above the age of 18 has has learned the secret you of 18 has has learned the secret you of 18 has has learned the secret you know so I don't know what you're talking know so I don't know what you're talking know so I don't know what you're talking about about about I don't know what secret you're I don't know what secret you're I don't know what secret you're referring to okay yes referring to okay yes referring to okay yes um Santa Claus um Santa Claus um Santa Claus warp sled maybe he means that Santa warp sled maybe he means that Santa warp sled maybe he means that Santa Claus was green and then Coca-Cola paid Claus was green and then Coca-Cola paid Claus was green and then Coca-Cola paid a lot of money to convert people right a lot of money to convert people right a lot of money to convert people right that's the secret right that's the secret right that's the secret right really remember it's that Christmas really remember it's that Christmas really remember it's that Christmas spirit if we're sinking enough and then spirit if we're sinking enough and then spirit if we're sinking enough and then we create enough Christmas spirit cheer we create enough Christmas spirit cheer we create enough Christmas spirit cheer to power his slave right hey why don't to power his slave right hey why don't to power his slave right hey why don't we go back to CS yes yes we will we go back to CS yes yes we will we go back to CS yes yes we will eventually it comes around no so Andrea eventually it comes around no so Andrea eventually it comes around no so Andrea you weren't there mark you weren't there you weren't there mark you weren't there you weren't there mark you weren't there do you guys have any questions were you do you guys have any questions were you do you guys have any questions were you is there anything that you're curious is there anything that you're curious is there anything that you're curious the big question is why was I not there

  20. we go every year you were weren't you we go every year you were weren't you sick last week are you feeling better sick last week are you feeling better sick last week are you feeling better um I am better yeah okay good good um I am better yeah okay good good um I am better yeah okay good good colds that just keeps on keeps on giving colds that just keeps on keeps on giving colds that just keeps on keeps on giving oh yeah you're better you're better oh yeah you're better you're better oh yeah you're better you're better better and then all of a sudden boom better and then all of a sudden boom better and then all of a sudden boom oh something happened Nicole is back oh something happened Nicole is back oh something happened Nicole is back yeah no I couldn't have been there yeah no I couldn't have been there yeah no I couldn't have been there um but you know obviously I'm quite um but you know obviously I'm quite um but you know obviously I'm quite interested in uh Healthcare aspects and interested in uh Healthcare aspects and interested in uh Healthcare aspects and I was off LinkedIn a variety of things I was off LinkedIn a variety of things I was off LinkedIn a variety of things and yeah and yeah and yeah um but anything you saw that was remarkable is that everybody is that was remarkable is that everybody is making a car making a car making a car every company every yeah everybody who's every company every yeah everybody who's every company every yeah everybody who's not in the automotive industry they had not in the automotive industry they had not in the automotive industry they had a car there and then what's the a car there and then what's the a car there and then what's the addressable market for that Sony addressable market for that Sony addressable market for that Sony Australian people yes yes Australian people yes yes Australian people yes yes um Qualcomm had a car Bosch uh Sony had um Qualcomm had a car Bosch uh Sony had um Qualcomm had a car Bosch uh Sony had a car a car a car I mean all kinds of companies that you I mean all kinds of companies that you I mean all kinds of companies that you would not think of they all had some would not think of they all had some would not think of they all had some kind of car at their Booth some kind of car at their Booth some kind of car at their Booth some futuristic looking car yeah the most the futuristic looking car yeah the most the futuristic looking car yeah the most the most simple device to produce right most simple device to produce right most simple device to produce right yes it is the car is like a Raspberry Pi yes it is the car is like a Raspberry Pi yes it is the car is like a Raspberry Pi hat you just pop your top onto the body hat you just pop your top onto the body hat you just pop your top onto the body onto the chassis and boom you're not onto the chassis and boom you're not onto the chassis and boom you're not that's it there you go there's your car that's it there you go there's your car that's it there you go there's your car just throw wheels on it there you go you just throw wheels on it there you go you just throw wheels on it there you go you know well you you know what you think

  21. know well you you know what you think know well you you know what you think about it when you think about doing it about it when you think about doing it about it when you think about doing it at scale like with General Motors has at scale like with General Motors has at scale like with General Motors has done is they have a standard chassis done is they have a standard chassis done is they have a standard chassis with a standardized battery and they're with a standardized battery and they're with a standardized battery and they're gonna put like 10 or 15 different cars gonna put like 10 or 15 different cars gonna put like 10 or 15 different cars bodies on top of that bodies on top of that bodies on top of that to create the illusion that we've got 15 to create the illusion that we've got 15 to create the illusion that we've got 15 new EV cars you know by 2025. new EV cars you know by 2025. new EV cars you know by 2025. I think I know what happened I think all I think I know what happened I think all I think I know what happened I think all of these companies hire the same of these companies hire the same of these companies hire the same Innovation consulting firm ask the same Innovation consulting firm ask the same Innovation consulting firm ask the same question what kind of a show at CES and question what kind of a show at CES and question what kind of a show at CES and they were so smart to say you should they were so smart to say you should they were so smart to say you should have a car and then they design 10 have a car and then they design 10 have a car and then they design 10 different cars in fact the Consulting from The in fact the Consulting from The Innovation agency just used Dolly to to Innovation agency just used Dolly to to Innovation agency just used Dolly to to create the car designs oh my god oh geez so yes that was overwhelming the number so yes that was overwhelming the number of cars there of cars there of cars there um obviously it was cool to see a nice um obviously it was cool to see a nice um obviously it was cool to see a nice Bugatti as well Veyron um but lots of Bugatti as well Veyron um but lots of Bugatti as well Veyron um but lots of high-tech cars from lots of companies high-tech cars from lots of companies high-tech cars from lots of companies Dodge Ram had a good looking truck you Dodge Ram had a good looking truck you Dodge Ram had a good looking truck you know you know that's the thing is we know you know that's the thing is we know you know that's the thing is we were all so excited a few years ago when were all so excited a few years ago when were all so excited a few years ago when we first saw the Cyber truck we first saw the Cyber truck we first saw the Cyber truck um and we're still waiting for it to um and we're still waiting for it to um and we're still waiting for it to come out in the meantime Ford F-150 come out in the meantime Ford F-150 come out in the meantime Ford F-150 Lightning has already come out it got Lightning has already come out it got Lightning has already come out it got truck of the year and then this new Ram truck of the year and then this new Ram truck of the year and then this new Ram pickup truck looks gorgeous pickup truck looks gorgeous pickup truck looks gorgeous um so Elon needs to get his butt in gear

  22. um so Elon needs to get his butt in gear um so Elon needs to get his butt in gear and get that cyber truck out the door and get that cyber truck out the door and get that cyber truck out the door because there's like a lot of cowboys because there's like a lot of cowboys because there's like a lot of cowboys and cowgirls out there that need a and cowgirls out there that need a and cowgirls out there that need a pickup truck it looks like it's from pickup truck it looks like it's from pickup truck it looks like it's from Mars the problem is a prototype right he put the problem is a prototype right he put the Prototype on production it was very the Prototype on production it was very the Prototype on production it was very Innovative but uh yeah it's a prototype Innovative but uh yeah it's a prototype Innovative but uh yeah it's a prototype it cannot get any certification right it cannot get any certification right it cannot get any certification right from we'll find out the point that's a from we'll find out the point that's a from we'll find out the point that's a good point uh you know other vehicles I good point uh you know other vehicles I good point uh you know other vehicles I thought were interesting thought were interesting thought were interesting um um um I went to John Deere's booth and I went to John Deere's booth and I went to John Deere's booth and they had a giant sprayer you know with they had a giant sprayer you know with they had a giant sprayer you know with arms going across you know it was huge arms going across you know it was huge arms going across you know it was huge um but the cool thing had to do about um but the cool thing had to do about um but the cool thing had to do about the the planting part they they're using the the planting part they they're using the the planting part they they're using some great Tech as they put the seat in some great Tech as they put the seat in some great Tech as they put the seat in they put the exact amount of fertilizer they put the exact amount of fertilizer they put the exact amount of fertilizer right on top of the seed as it's going right on top of the seed as it's going right on top of the seed as it's going in at high speed uh and so they were in at high speed uh and so they were in at high speed uh and so they were going to reduce the amount of fertilizer going to reduce the amount of fertilizer going to reduce the amount of fertilizer to use by 60 percent that's super cool to use by 60 percent that's super cool to use by 60 percent that's super cool I've been planting seeds so it's really I've been planting seeds so it's really I've been planting seeds so it's really interesting because you know as I've interesting because you know as I've interesting because you know as I've spent time doing this AG Tech stuff you spent time doing this AG Tech stuff you spent time doing this AG Tech stuff you know there's there's the stuff where know there's there's the stuff where know there's there's the stuff where John Deere lives which is row crops corn John Deere lives which is row crops corn John Deere lives which is row crops corn soybean wheat all those things where you soybean wheat all those things where you soybean wheat all those things where you use giant tractors combines stuff like use giant tractors combines stuff like use giant tractors combines stuff like that the place where I was playing in is that the place where I was playing in is that the place where I was playing in is specialty crops that would be Orchards specialty crops that would be Orchards specialty crops that would be Orchards of different types things that don't of different types things that don't of different types things that don't move around things aren't growing that move around things aren't growing that move around things aren't growing that you mow down they're things that stay you mow down they're things that stay you mow down they're things that stay there the whole time and so the sensors there the whole time and so the sensors there the whole time and so the sensors are fixed over time

  23. are fixed over time are fixed over time um then you've got ornamental that um then you've got ornamental that um then you've got ornamental that almost look like they're being which you almost look like they're being which you almost look like they're being which you might buy at a nursery or Home Depot or might buy at a nursery or Home Depot or might buy at a nursery or Home Depot or Lowe's and those are done I don't want Lowe's and those are done I don't want Lowe's and those are done I don't want to say they're totally in a greenhouse to say they're totally in a greenhouse to say they're totally in a greenhouse but they are kind of covered and it but they are kind of covered and it but they are kind of covered and it almost looks like a factory almost looks like a factory almost looks like a factory and so John Deere plays a big role and so John Deere plays a big role and so John Deere plays a big role certainly in the row crop space certainly in the row crop space certainly in the row crop space um but uh it's interesting but what you um but uh it's interesting but what you um but uh it's interesting but what you say is that you have to spend several say is that you have to spend several say is that you have to spend several millions of dollars on this super big millions of dollars on this super big millions of dollars on this super big track just to save 60 of the fertility track just to save 60 of the fertility track just to save 60 of the fertility of the fertilizers you hit it you sound of the fertilizers you hit it you sound of the fertilizers you hit it you sound like a smart guy you figured it out yeah like a smart guy you figured it out yeah like a smart guy you figured it out yeah but no no one buys these things uh they but no no one buys these things uh they but no no one buys these things uh they lease them or they rent them usually you lease them or they rent them usually you lease them or they rent them usually you know think about where was the first know think about where was the first know think about where was the first time you heard the word Co-op the time you heard the word Co-op the time you heard the word Co-op the Farmers Co-op it's they share them yeah Farmers Co-op it's they share them yeah Farmers Co-op it's they share them yeah they share the assets right I mean you they share the assets right I mean you they share the assets right I mean you know it's always been a smart model know it's always been a smart model know it's always been a smart model um they're so expensive you're right a um they're so expensive you're right a um they're so expensive you're right a single farmer can't afford to buy those single farmer can't afford to buy those single farmer can't afford to buy those yeah that's why whenever you drive yeah that's why whenever you drive yeah that's why whenever you drive through like agricultural areas through like agricultural areas through like agricultural areas especially in the U.S you see these like especially in the U.S you see these like especially in the U.S you see these like equipment Depots right that are renting equipment Depots right that are renting equipment Depots right that are renting out like these massive out like these massive out like these massive massive uh machines and this is just massive uh machines and this is just massive uh machines and this is just like when we talk about the car sharing like when we talk about the car sharing like when we talk about the car sharing economy and Uber or high availability economy and Uber or high availability economy and Uber or high availability remember when we started talking about remember when we started talking about remember when we started talking about you might buy a car but you're only you might buy a car but you're only you might buy a car but you're only using it one or two hours a day what are using it one or two hours a day what are using it one or two hours a day what are you doing the rest of the time can you you doing the rest of the time can you you doing the rest of the time can you make it available and make money on it make it available and make money on it make it available and make money on it it's the same thing with agricultural it's the same thing with agricultural it's the same thing with agricultural equipment they don't use them all the equipment they don't use them all the equipment they don't use them all the time they plant and they Park them and

  24. time they plant and they Park them and time they plant and they Park them and they harvest it doesn't make sense to they harvest it doesn't make sense to they harvest it doesn't make sense to plant all the year right that's right plant all the year right that's right plant all the year right that's right yeah yeah but yeah yeah yeah but yeah yeah yeah but yeah right and so you don't need them all the right and so you don't need them all the right and so you don't need them all the time and that's why it's better to share time and that's why it's better to share time and that's why it's better to share yeah but the savings are not well not yeah but the savings are not well not yeah but the savings are not well not necessarily in terms of dollars right necessarily in terms of dollars right necessarily in terms of dollars right but in terms of what you put in the but in terms of what you put in the but in terms of what you put in the grass London and how you grass London and how you grass London and how you you know how you uh grow the crops and you know how you uh grow the crops and you know how you uh grow the crops and how you know how healthy they are right how you know how healthy they are right how you know how healthy they are right yeah absolutely absolutely well there's yeah absolutely absolutely well there's yeah absolutely absolutely well there's that aspect yeah I mean I think as we that aspect yeah I mean I think as we that aspect yeah I mean I think as we start to look at I mean they start to start to look at I mean they start to start to look at I mean they start to look at making uh agriculture more look at making uh agriculture more look at making uh agriculture more resilient than you want more visibility resilient than you want more visibility resilient than you want more visibility to what you're growing the yeah the to what you're growing the yeah the to what you're growing the yeah the environment that it's growing in so I environment that it's growing in so I environment that it's growing in so I think those are the kind those are the think those are the kind those are the think those are the kind those are the other things I mean I think there's a other things I mean I think there's a other things I mean I think there's a lot of focus on the thing that you do lot of focus on the thing that you do lot of focus on the thing that you do maybe like two or three days out of the maybe like two or three days out of the maybe like two or three days out of the Year versus the rest of the time that Year versus the rest of the time that Year versus the rest of the time that your stuff is growing where something your stuff is growing where something your stuff is growing where something can happen that can ruin all the crops can happen that can ruin all the crops can happen that can ruin all the crops you know and you know you see that in you know and you know you see that in you know and you know you see that in the wine industry all the time or even the wine industry all the time or even the wine industry all the time or even in uh yeah I mean where uh grapes are in uh yeah I mean where uh grapes are in uh yeah I mean where uh grapes are very very uh sensitive right and very very uh sensitive right and very very uh sensitive right and um the wine Growers and the the wine um the wine Growers and the the wine um the wine Growers and the the wine makers are super sensitive right because makers are super sensitive right because makers are super sensitive right because they they pick up on all the nuances of they they pick up on all the nuances of they they pick up on all the nuances of how you know a row of grapes has been how you know a row of grapes has been how you know a row of grapes has been growing

  25. growing growing um through the course of that season so um through the course of that season so um through the course of that season so having this visibility to the condition having this visibility to the condition having this visibility to the condition uh of the vineyard is is super important uh of the vineyard is is super important uh of the vineyard is is super important but that then that goes beyond just like but that then that goes beyond just like but that then that goes beyond just like planning the stuff or harvesting you planning the stuff or harvesting you planning the stuff or harvesting you know yeah I mean you know our good know yeah I mean you know our good know yeah I mean you know our good friends Scott Waller over at thingy and friends Scott Waller over at thingy and friends Scott Waller over at thingy and yeah the open Innovation lab obviously yeah the open Innovation lab obviously yeah the open Innovation lab obviously his whole business was all these fires his whole business was all these fires his whole business was all these fires we have every summer we have every summer we have every summer um and the smoke tanks affecting the um and the smoke tanks affecting the um and the smoke tanks affecting the grapes and grapes and grapes and and some wine makers have had to just and some wine makers have had to just and some wine makers have had to just throw out all their wine throw out all their wine throw out all their wine it was really obvious when you tasted it it was really obvious when you tasted it it was really obvious when you tasted it um and so that's a lot of money down the um and so that's a lot of money down the um and so that's a lot of money down the drain right yeah or you know they drain right yeah or you know they drain right yeah or you know they usually sell that crap to somebody else usually sell that crap to somebody else usually sell that crap to somebody else and then they make Ripple out of it or and then they make Ripple out of it or and then they make Ripple out of it or something you know what I'm saying something you know what I'm saying something you know what I'm saying or five bucks there is no two Puck Buck or five bucks there is no two Puck Buck or five bucks there is no two Puck Buck Chuck anymore you know Charles Shaw it's Chuck anymore you know Charles Shaw it's Chuck anymore you know Charles Shaw it's like five bucks it's like holy crap you like five bucks it's like holy crap you like five bucks it's like holy crap you know it's like it's know it's like it's know it's like it's iot cards yeah iot cards yeah iot cards yeah let's go no we'll do it in Barcelona no we'll go up toward the uh what's that no we'll go up toward the uh what's that area right uh north of area right uh north of area right uh north of um uh you know uh the the Spanish Coast um uh you know uh the the Spanish Coast um uh you know uh the the Spanish Coast it goes into southern France there's it goes into southern France there's it goes into southern France there's that one area I forgot the name of it that one area I forgot the name of it that one area I forgot the name of it they have like some really fantastic

  26. they have like some really fantastic they have like some really fantastic um beautiful wineries so um beautiful wineries so um beautiful wineries so set it up Mark yeah I'm just gonna put us on a train yeah I'm just gonna put us on a train and we're gonna go there and we're gonna go there and we're gonna go there we're gonna go see the sleeping vines in we're gonna go see the sleeping vines in we're gonna go see the sleeping vines in the winter time there you go yeah but let's do it the right way iot yeah but let's do it the right way iot Coffee Talk way yeah exactly iot wine Coffee Talk way yeah exactly iot wine Coffee Talk way yeah exactly iot wine talk exactly talk exactly talk exactly we'll be the iot iot coffee will be the we'll be the iot iot coffee will be the we'll be the iot iot coffee will be the iot Winos why notice yeah the problem is that uh Leonard is always the problem is that uh Leonard is always pressing to have on BlackBerry Mojitos pressing to have on BlackBerry Mojitos pressing to have on BlackBerry Mojitos [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] this is because of blackberry this is because of blackberry this is because of blackberry oh geez oh geez oh geez all right all right all right what was that like battery for the what was that like battery for the what was that like battery for the Blackberry phones so I don't know Blackberry phones so I don't know Blackberry phones so I don't know yeah I think I got another sponsor for iot I think I got another sponsor for iot stars which one stars which one stars which one that's a company in Australia that I'm that's a company in Australia that I'm that's a company in Australia that I'm working with working for part-time working with working for part-time working with working for part-time they're called caliper they're called caliper they're called caliper with a K with a K with a K oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah um yeah they're gonna have like four

  27. um yeah they're gonna have like four um yeah they're gonna have like four other folks come over from Australia for other folks come over from Australia for other folks come over from Australia for mwc mwc mwc and so I was I was on a call with them and so I was I was on a call with them and so I was I was on a call with them yesterday and they talked about maybe yesterday and they talked about maybe yesterday and they talked about maybe wanting to be a sponsor yeah get their wanting to be a sponsor yeah get their wanting to be a sponsor yeah get their logo on the iot Stars web page logo on the iot Stars web page logo on the iot Stars web page yeah you know so let me share something yeah you know so let me share something yeah you know so let me share something with you about our show that that um with you about our show that that um with you about our show that that um that if you know I think Rob and I both that if you know I think Rob and I both that if you know I think Rob and I both found out once again is man people found out once again is man people found out once again is man people people get a lot out of the show you people get a lot out of the show you people get a lot out of the show you should hear some of the feedback that we should hear some of the feedback that we should hear some of the feedback that we get it's like crazy so encouraging given get it's like crazy so encouraging given get it's like crazy so encouraging given that you know we kind of jump on here that you know we kind of jump on here that you know we kind of jump on here with no idea what we're really going to with no idea what we're really going to with no idea what we're really going to be talking about other than maybe a be talking about other than maybe a be talking about other than maybe a topic yeah I have an idea topic yeah I have an idea topic yeah I have an idea one of the idea is that during the one of the idea is that during the one of the idea is that during the reception of the people we because we reception of the people we because we reception of the people we because we will be five minutes walking from a will be five minutes walking from a will be five minutes walking from a mobile Congress venue so we can do be mobile Congress venue so we can do be mobile Congress venue so we can do be doing the reception of the people we can doing the reception of the people we can doing the reception of the people we can be doing an iot coffee talk there live be doing an iot coffee talk there live be doing an iot coffee talk there live with connected people so we will have with connected people so we will have with connected people so we will have like a really nice yeah like a really nice yeah like a really nice yeah thank you thank you thank you on the yeah cool yeah it starts so we on the yeah cool yeah it starts so we on the yeah cool yeah it starts so we can do that people have beers listeners can do that people have beers listeners can do that people have beers listeners tell us [ __ ] or not yeah absolutely no I think that's great I absolutely no I think that's great I think it's a great way to be coming in think it's a great way to be coming in think it's a great way to be coming in and seeing us up on stage sitting there

  28. and seeing us up on stage sitting there and seeing us up on stage sitting there being ridiculous we'll provide alcohol induced responses we'll provide alcohol induced responses how's that how's that how's that but you know what people don't realize but you know what people don't realize but you know what people don't realize the Genesis of this show is really the Genesis of this show is really the Genesis of this show is really because we couldn't make it to iot stars because we couldn't make it to iot stars because we couldn't make it to iot stars at mwc 2020 you know yeah exactly at mwc 2020 you know yeah exactly at mwc 2020 you know yeah exactly seriously yeah you can see yes happen seriously yeah you can see yes happen seriously yeah you can see yes happen right cs20 yeah right cs20 yeah right cs20 yeah um it existed right yeah it was not um it existed right yeah it was not um it existed right yeah it was not canceled no yeah yeah yeah yeah well canceled no yeah yeah yeah yeah well canceled no yeah yeah yeah yeah well like what Rob was saying that was like what Rob was saying that was like what Rob was saying that was probably like the ultimate super probably like the ultimate super probably like the ultimate super spreader event spreader event spreader event you know yeah big time yeah you know yeah big time yeah you know yeah big time yeah um you know it's also the Genesis of the um you know it's also the Genesis of the um you know it's also the Genesis of the show is abacab show is abacab show is abacab what oh oh nobody got it never mind okay what oh oh nobody got it never mind okay what oh oh nobody got it never mind okay I guess you guys aren't into music never I guess you guys aren't into music never I guess you guys aren't into music never mind mind mind no I didn't get what do you what did you no I didn't get what do you what did you no I didn't get what do you what did you say I couldn't hear what you said Abba I say I couldn't hear what you said Abba I say I couldn't hear what you said Abba I said I said the Genesis of this show is said I said the Genesis of this show is said I said the Genesis of this show is abacab abacab abacab ra ra ra Cabernet Cabernet Cabernet uh you mean after the music group uh you mean after the music group uh you mean after the music group Abba Kaepernick oh my God it turns out Abba Kaepernick oh my God it turns out Abba Kaepernick oh my God it turns out you actually don't know anything about you actually don't know anything about you actually don't know anything about music or bands yeah yeah yeah yeah of course

  29. yeah yeah yeah yeah of course have you ever heard of an album they have you ever heard of an album they have you ever heard of an album they made in a song called I'm a cab in the made in a song called I'm a cab in the made in a song called I'm a cab in the 80s no 80s no 80s no no no humid humid no no humid humid no no humid humid is it anywhere oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay I just didn't know the yeah yeah okay I just didn't know the yeah yeah okay I just didn't know the name of the song dude it's like uh you name of the song dude it's like uh you name of the song dude it's like uh you know it's my know it's my know it's my um uh yeah that other song uh Auld Lang um uh yeah that other song uh Auld Lang um uh yeah that other song uh Auld Lang Syne Syne Syne it's not of 80 80s music I I know the it's not of 80 80s music I I know the it's not of 80 80s music I I know the song I just don't know the title of that song I just don't know the title of that song I just don't know the title of that song oh God yeah I just want to point out to oh God yeah I just want to point out to our audience that Rob looks like our audience that Rob looks like our audience that Rob looks like Sergeant Slaughter if you ever watch pro Sergeant Slaughter if you ever watch pro Sergeant Slaughter if you ever watch pro wrestling back into it was it the 80s or wrestling back into it was it the 80s or wrestling back into it was it the 80s or the 90s yeah they had this really tall the 90s yeah they had this really tall the 90s yeah they had this really tall dude named uh Sergeant Slaughter and I dude named uh Sergeant Slaughter and I dude named uh Sergeant Slaughter and I think that's the look Rob is going for think that's the look Rob is going for think that's the look Rob is going for so there's the album cover it looks a so there's the album cover it looks a so there's the album cover it looks a little yeah yeah I remember seeing that little yeah yeah I remember seeing that little yeah yeah I remember seeing that at a Tower Records it's just that back at a Tower Records it's just that back at a Tower Records it's just that back then we didn't have streaming and you then we didn't have streaming and you then we didn't have streaming and you had to you had to invest selectively and had to you had to invest selectively and had to you had to invest selectively and you know you only listen to stuff that you know you only listen to stuff that you know you only listen to stuff that your friends listen to you know let's your friends listen to you know let's your friends listen to you know let's all try to go to a Tower Records today all try to go to a Tower Records today all try to go to a Tower Records today yes one tier Music Plus but you had Justin Timberlake Music Plus but you had Justin Timberlake talking you know being you know Sean

  30. talking you know being you know Sean talking you know being you know Sean Parker in Social Network he's like yeah Parker in Social Network he's like yeah Parker in Social Network he's like yeah go try to find a Tower Records go try to find a Tower Records go try to find a Tower Records you know what you know what you know what um whatever in this Christmas I watch on um whatever in this Christmas I watch on um whatever in this Christmas I watch on the Netflix show the playlist not sure the Netflix show the playlist not sure the Netflix show the playlist not sure if you watch it I did Spotify yeah if you watch it I did Spotify yeah if you watch it I did Spotify yeah indeed yeah but it's yeah and it's super indeed yeah but it's yeah and it's super indeed yeah but it's yeah and it's super interesting to learn the story of interesting to learn the story of interesting to learn the story of Spotify but as well it was super Spotify but as well it was super Spotify but as well it was super interesting to learn now the LA from a interesting to learn now the LA from a interesting to learn now the LA from a point of view it was a startup it's like point of view it was a startup it's like point of view it was a startup it's like it demonstrates clearly that you have to it demonstrates clearly that you have to it demonstrates clearly that you have to be at the right time with the right be at the right time with the right be at the right time with the right technology with the right people with technology with the right people with technology with the right people with the right partners with the right money the right partners with the right money the right partners with the right money if you have all of these then you can if you have all of these then you can if you have all of these then you can succeed as a Spotify lead but if you succeed as a Spotify lead but if you succeed as a Spotify lead but if you don't have any one of these Maybe don't have any one of these Maybe don't have any one of these Maybe yeah yeah yeah their biggest concern was Pirate Bay their biggest concern was Pirate Bay their biggest concern was Pirate Bay um because everybody was downloading um because everybody was downloading um because everybody was downloading everything actually you could just go everything actually you could just go everything actually you could just go download the whole internet from Pirate download the whole internet from Pirate download the whole internet from Pirate Bay Bay Bay yeah yeah yeah that's amazing yeah Pirate Bay then you that's amazing yeah Pirate Bay then you that's amazing yeah Pirate Bay then you had Napster with Sean Parker yeah the had Napster with Sean Parker yeah the had Napster with Sean Parker yeah the mp3s of everything for free and and so mp3s of everything for free and and so mp3s of everything for free and and so there's that quality but yes would there's that quality but yes would there's that quality but yes would anybody pay for this stuff right and anybody pay for this stuff right and anybody pay for this stuff right and remember Steve Jobs spent a lot of time remember Steve Jobs spent a lot of time remember Steve Jobs spent a lot of time convincing music companies to pay you convincing music companies to pay you convincing music companies to pay you know 99 per song you know it was an know 99 per song you know it was an know 99 per song you know it was an interesting time yeah yeah what if I navigated very well you know what if I navigated very well you know they didn't have a path with our they didn't have a path with our they didn't have a path with our obstacles right they just navigate

  31. obstacles right they just navigate obstacles right they just navigate really well I mean it's what Mark said really well I mean it's what Mark said really well I mean it's what Mark said right a lot of things came together but right a lot of things came together but right a lot of things came together but it's been many years since then and it's been many years since then and it's been many years since then and they've been navigating really well they've been navigating really well they've been navigating really well yeah yeah yeah and it's interesting that and it's interesting that and it's interesting that um with video the the story is different um with video the the story is different um with video the the story is different right right right um and um and um and folks tend to huh oh yeah it is because folks tend to huh oh yeah it is because folks tend to huh oh yeah it is because if you think about it Netflix had to if you think about it Netflix had to if you think about it Netflix had to become become become um they're really a studio with digital um they're really a studio with digital um they're really a studio with digital distribution but people thought that distribution but people thought that distribution but people thought that they're a streaming company whatever the they're a streaming company whatever the they're a streaming company whatever the freaking hell that means we didn't use that term back yeah they we didn't use that term back yeah they own a their own content they have to own a their own content they have to own a their own content they have to produce content and that's the trouble produce content and that's the trouble produce content and that's the trouble that Disney got into they created too that Disney got into they created too that Disney got into they created too much content and they have to somehow much content and they have to somehow much content and they have to somehow break even on subscriptions you know but break even on subscriptions you know but break even on subscriptions you know but then they have to constantly pump out then they have to constantly pump out then they have to constantly pump out and now they're pumping out you know and now they're pumping out you know and now they're pumping out you know I would argue uh less than quality I would argue uh less than quality I would argue uh less than quality content around some really premium content around some really premium content around some really premium Brands trust me there's so much extra Brands trust me there's so much extra Brands trust me there's so much extra content now flooded content now flooded content now flooded yeah I'm pretty sure that we could have yeah I'm pretty sure that we could have yeah I'm pretty sure that we could have our video show on Netflix oh yeah oh yeah foreign

  32. yeah yeah I could so hey Mark what is yeah yeah I could so hey Mark what is there anything that you're curious about there anything that you're curious about there anything that you're curious about CEs CEs CEs this year no I I follow your videos on this year no I I follow your videos on this year no I I follow your videos on your on your posts from oh okay so you your on your posts from oh okay so you your on your posts from oh okay so you know everything yes that's how it know everything yes that's how it know everything yes that's how it usually after you read my stuff what usually after you read my stuff what usually after you read my stuff what myself am I the only one who watch your stuff am I the only one who watch your stuff or no there's a lot of people do they or no there's a lot of people do they or no there's a lot of people do they just don't acknowledge that they do just don't acknowledge that they do just don't acknowledge that they do until they meet me huh watches it too until they meet me huh watches it too until they meet me huh watches it too yeah I watch it too because I have to yeah I watch it too because I have to yeah I watch it too because I have to remind myself I'm so forgetful these remind myself I'm so forgetful these remind myself I'm so forgetful these days you guys haven't answered my days you guys haven't answered my days you guys haven't answered my question about health care there's a lot there's a lot um most of it is like software um most of it is like software um most of it is like software cloud-based still cloud-based still cloud-based still um you know there are a lot of devices um you know there are a lot of devices um you know there are a lot of devices but you know a lot of Niche stuff but you know a lot of Niche stuff but you know a lot of Niche stuff um there still needs to be a lot of um there still needs to be a lot of um there still needs to be a lot of consolidation but you know what's really consolidation but you know what's really consolidation but you know what's really cool is this whole thesis from 2017 has cool is this whole thesis from 2017 has cool is this whole thesis from 2017 has kind of come about it's like everything kind of come about it's like everything kind of come about it's like everything is kind of connected the thing is is is kind of connected the thing is is is kind of connected the thing is is back in 2007 even in 2017 I said yeah back in 2007 even in 2017 I said yeah back in 2007 even in 2017 I said yeah you can connect everything but what's you can connect everything but what's you can connect everything but what's valuable to connect and make smart and valuable to connect and make smart and valuable to connect and make smart and uh that consolidation I think is going uh that consolidation I think is going uh that consolidation I think is going to happen at some point

  33. to happen at some point to happen at some point um and we'll we'll see but the a lot of um and we'll we'll see but the a lot of um and we'll we'll see but the a lot of Health Care related stuff not as much Health Care related stuff not as much Health Care related stuff not as much Fitness which Fitness which Fitness which kind of surprised me but that might just kind of surprised me but that might just kind of surprised me but that might just because be because Fitness companies because be because Fitness companies because be because Fitness companies didn't show up um as much as they did in didn't show up um as much as they did in didn't show up um as much as they did in Prior years right go ahead Rob what did we see down in go ahead Rob what did we see down in Eureka Park this time Leonard Eureka Park this time Leonard Eureka Park this time Leonard a crap ton of South Korean companies a crap ton of South Korean companies a crap ton of South Korean companies yeah I mean like literally 70 and of yeah I mean like literally 70 and of yeah I mean like literally 70 and of course CTA disses you know course CTA disses you know course CTA disses you know South Korea I mean you know it's like South Korea I mean you know it's like South Korea I mean you know it's like how can they not show up on your list of how can they not show up on your list of how can they not show up on your list of innovation Champions I'm sorry yeah it's innovation Champions I'm sorry yeah it's innovation Champions I'm sorry yeah it's like even the Koreans are like going wow like even the Koreans are like going wow like even the Koreans are like going wow there's a lot of Koreans there's a lot of Koreans there's a lot of Koreans and then you know a friggin CTA gives and then you know a friggin CTA gives and then you know a friggin CTA gives them the middle finger it's like who did them the middle finger it's like who did them the middle finger it's like who did you put up there what countries are you you put up there what countries are you you put up there what countries are you serious serious serious like what criteria are you using yeah like what criteria are you using yeah like what criteria are you using yeah but they don't know here's the thing but they don't know here's the thing but they don't know here's the thing they have if you walked around Eureka they have if you walked around Eureka they have if you walked around Eureka Park and you bumped into something that Park and you bumped into something that Park and you bumped into something that was really cool you know something that was really cool you know something that was really cool you know something that potentially will matter potentially will matter potentially will matter nine times out of ten it was a Korean nine times out of ten it was a Korean nine times out of ten it was a Korean company company company and to say that the the you know to and to say that the the you know to and to say that the the you know to discount them at the show and not discount them at the show and not discount them at the show and not recognize that is just really recognize that is just really recognize that is just really you know it's hilarious because then you

  34. you know it's hilarious because then you you know it's hilarious because then you go and you look at the other Innovations go and you look at the other Innovations go and you look at the other Innovations it's like what the freaking hell is this it's like what the freaking hell is this it's like what the freaking hell is this you know but the stuff that's essential you know but the stuff that's essential you know but the stuff that's essential you know like micro LEDs you know like micro LEDs you know like micro LEDs so for our audience that doesn't know so for our audience that doesn't know so for our audience that doesn't know when you're at the back of the nation when you're at the back of the nation when you're at the back of the nation what we used to call the sands area expo what we used to call the sands area expo what we used to call the sands area expo hall you've got kind of two levels you hall you've got kind of two levels you hall you've got kind of two levels you have a big uh Expo level and and uh and have a big uh Expo level and and uh and have a big uh Expo level and and uh and Lenovo was certainly camped out at the Lenovo was certainly camped out at the Lenovo was certainly camped out at the Venetian but then people downstairs into Venetian but then people downstairs into Venetian but then people downstairs into the basement yeah you know it's like you the basement yeah you know it's like you the basement yeah you know it's like you know in fact I would say the stuff you know in fact I would say the stuff you know in fact I would say the stuff you see in the Venetian is where you're see in the Venetian is where you're see in the Venetian is where you're going to see more of the bleeding edge going to see more of the bleeding edge going to see more of the bleeding edge startup stuff which may be more startup stuff which may be more startup stuff which may be more interesting to you when you're in the interesting to you when you're in the interesting to you when you're in the big giant Halls at the Las Vegas big giant Halls at the Las Vegas big giant Halls at the Las Vegas Convention Center Convention Center Convention Center it's very easy to get jaded to say I it's very easy to get jaded to say I it's very easy to get jaded to say I already saw this on the web they already already saw this on the web they already already saw this on the web they already announced this this is nothing new it's announced this this is nothing new it's announced this this is nothing new it's all the giant companies you go to all the giant companies you go to all the giant companies you go to Venetia and you see more startups and so Venetia and you see more startups and so Venetia and you see more startups and so that's where you'll stumble upon things that's where you'll stumble upon things that's where you'll stumble upon things that are way more interesting that are way more interesting that are way more interesting you go downstairs into what they call you go downstairs into what they call you go downstairs into what they call this area Eureka Park and it is the even this area Eureka Park and it is the even this area Eureka Park and it is the even more bleeding edge early stage startups more bleeding edge early stage startups more bleeding edge early stage startups where you may stumble upon total genius where you may stumble upon total genius where you may stumble upon total genius we also stumbled upon the most we also stumbled upon the most we also stumbled upon the most ridiculous stuff we've ever seen in our ridiculous stuff we've ever seen in our ridiculous stuff we've ever seen in our lives oh my God the shill is on folks oh my God the shill is on folks we saw some stupid stuff down there too

  35. we saw some stupid stuff down there too we saw some stupid stuff down there too let God love them let God love them let God love them foreign feces against the wall and the the wall feces against the wall and the the wall of innovation and then they're trying to of innovation and then they're trying to of innovation and then they're trying to see if it sticks trust me that's going to be uh that's trust me that's going to be uh that's gonna be the saying of this century gonna be the saying of this century gonna be the saying of this century America I'm talking to you it was America I'm talking to you it was America I'm talking to you it was the thing was creepy yeah it was crazy I the thing was creepy yeah it was crazy I the thing was creepy yeah it was crazy I was like okay it's like you trying to go was like okay it's like you trying to go was like okay it's like you trying to go for sexy or like bringing terrifying for sexy or like bringing terrifying for sexy or like bringing terrifying people that was interesting is when I'm people that was interesting is when I'm people that was interesting is when I'm in Eureka Park you know who was there in in Eureka Park you know who was there in in Eureka Park you know who was there in force the U.S government and Military force the U.S government and Military force the U.S government and Military yeah yeah yeah the Department of Defense uh obviously the Department of Defense uh obviously the Department of Defense uh obviously small business administration where you small business administration where you small business administration where you can get SBA Loans things like that if can get SBA Loans things like that if can get SBA Loans things like that if you're a startup they were there in you're a startup they were there in you're a startup they were there in force I talked the Navy was there and force I talked the Navy was there and force I talked the Navy was there and since I'm a Navy guy I talked to them a since I'm a Navy guy I talked to them a since I'm a Navy guy I talked to them a lot and they what's interesting lot and they what's interesting lot and they what's interesting maybe you don't have your own startup maybe you don't have your own startup maybe you don't have your own startup idea but the Navy and other parts of the idea but the Navy and other parts of the idea but the Navy and other parts of the military they actually have a list of military they actually have a list of military they actually have a list of innovations that they are looking for innovations that they are looking for innovations that they are looking for yeah they will fund you just to yeah they will fund you just to yeah they will fund you just to prototype or the feasibility for some prototype or the feasibility for some prototype or the feasibility for some scenario uh you they might give you over scenario uh you they might give you over scenario uh you they might give you over 100 grand for that and then you go to 100 grand for that and then you go to 100 grand for that and then you go to the next stage to create another they'll the next stage to create another they'll the next stage to create another they'll give you another 100 Grand it's pretty give you another 100 Grand it's pretty give you another 100 Grand it's pretty interesting because

  36. all the information about it um but yeah all the information about it um but yeah um to do it on their own and so they're to do it on their own and so they're looking to startups and and that's smart looking to startups and and that's smart looking to startups and and that's smart you know yeah where do we I mean we all you know yeah where do we I mean we all you know yeah where do we I mean we all know this the most Innovation typically know this the most Innovation typically know this the most Innovation typically comes from startups that you've never comes from startups that you've never comes from startups that you've never heard of yeah I mean you know like and heard of yeah I mean you know like and heard of yeah I mean you know like and uh I mean there's a lot of stuff that's uh I mean there's a lot of stuff that's uh I mean there's a lot of stuff that's not gonna I mean it's just like really not gonna I mean it's just like really not gonna I mean it's just like really lightweight stuff sure yeah but you know lightweight stuff sure yeah but you know lightweight stuff sure yeah but you know like I said I bumped into some of these like I said I bumped into some of these like I said I bumped into some of these companies like the South Korean company companies like the South Korean company companies like the South Korean company that does Micro LEDs I I had um a I was that does Micro LEDs I I had um a I was that does Micro LEDs I I had um a I was at a analyst Roundtable I was sitting at a analyst Roundtable I was sitting at a analyst Roundtable I was sitting right next to Hugo Schwartz who is the right next to Hugo Schwartz who is the right next to Hugo Schwartz who is the uh Qualcomm XR metaverse guy and the uh Qualcomm XR metaverse guy and the uh Qualcomm XR metaverse guy and the thing that came out of his mouth about thing that came out of his mouth about thing that came out of his mouth about how uh what's keeping us from realizing how uh what's keeping us from realizing how uh what's keeping us from realizing um you know these consumer viable AR um you know these consumer viable AR um you know these consumer viable AR glasses is micro LED everyone promises glasses is micro LED everyone promises glasses is micro LED everyone promises it but it but it but they've never really realized it yeah they've never really realized it yeah they've never really realized it yeah it's like and then I booked into it and it's like and then I booked into it and it's like and then I booked into it and it's like holy crap and so uh you know it's like holy crap and so uh you know it's like holy crap and so uh you know I'm doing an introduction but you know I'm doing an introduction but you know I'm doing an introduction but you know what I'm saying you bump there's some what I'm saying you bump there's some what I'm saying you bump there's some serious like you said Rob there's some serious like you said Rob there's some serious like you said Rob there's some serious stuff but it's like weird it's serious stuff but it's like weird it's serious stuff but it's like weird it's so you walk into that Hall it's like so you walk into that Hall it's like so you walk into that Hall it's like oh my God how am I gonna get through oh my God how am I gonna get through oh my God how am I gonna get through this yeah yeah so I remember my methodology yeah yeah so I remember my methodology you know you you just resigned to the

  37. you know you you just resigned to the you know you you just resigned to the fact that you are not gonna see every fact that you are not gonna see every fact that you are not gonna see every you wander you literally wander and you wander you literally wander and you wander you literally wander and it's an exercise in Serendipity right it's an exercise in Serendipity right it's an exercise in Serendipity right right right right [Music] [Music] [Music] now now now yeah I mean but Serendipity is a yeah I mean but Serendipity is a yeah I mean but Serendipity is a powerful thing because you you know that powerful thing because you you know that powerful thing because you you know that example I just gave you I was like how example I just gave you I was like how example I just gave you I was like how the hell do those two dots connect like the hell do those two dots connect like the hell do those two dots connect like that that that it's crazy it's crazy it's crazy a lot of others which was really cool a lot of others which was really cool a lot of others which was really cool and I only spent maybe about an hour and and I only spent maybe about an hour and and I only spent maybe about an hour and a half in Eureka Park I wanted to spend a half in Eureka Park I wanted to spend a half in Eureka Park I wanted to spend more time but I had to we project more time but I had to we project more time but I had to we project forward from our experience there forward from our experience there forward from our experience there uh four years from now at mwc yeah which uh four years from now at mwc yeah which uh four years from now at mwc yeah which is also my favorite place to be and you is also my favorite place to be and you is also my favorite place to be and you wonder and you go talk to all these wonder and you go talk to all these wonder and you go talk to all these young startups uh because that's where young startups uh because that's where young startups uh because that's where the magic happens I think you know it's the magic happens I think you know it's the magic happens I think you know it's really cool it's my favorite part of really cool it's my favorite part of really cool it's my favorite part of Mobile World Congress by far are you all Mobile World Congress by far are you all Mobile World Congress by far are you all going to a mwc now yeah I'm going he's going to a mwc now yeah I'm going he's going to a mwc now yeah I'm going he's going to be there you should go if you going to be there you should go if you going to be there you should go if you can go it would be fun it's late late to can go it would be fun it's late late to can go it would be fun it's late late to book everything book everything book everything you will not believe this you know you will not believe this you know you will not believe this you know you'll never believe how I'm flying you'll never believe how I'm flying you'll never believe how I'm flying there I'm not I'm not going to be lying there I'm not I'm not going to be lying there I'm not I'm not going to be lying flat in business class but I will be flat in business class but I will be flat in business class but I will be flying on Air Lingus flying on Air Lingus flying on Air Lingus through Ireland through Ireland through Ireland through Ireland yeah

  38. I was so surprised they've got a direct I was so surprised they've got a direct flight from Seattle to Dublin flight from Seattle to Dublin flight from Seattle to Dublin Dublin to Barcelona and so I'm flying Dublin to Barcelona and so I'm flying Dublin to Barcelona and so I'm flying Aer Lingus it was like 800 round trip it Aer Lingus it was like 800 round trip it Aer Lingus it was like 800 round trip it was so much cheaper oh my God but you was so much cheaper oh my God but you was so much cheaper oh my God but you know what you have to think a lot of know what you have to think a lot of know what you have to think a lot of Apple employees probably use that flight Apple employees probably use that flight Apple employees probably use that flight because they have a oh true yeah right because they have a oh true yeah right because they have a oh true yeah right can't be all that bad rob you mean all can't be all that bad rob you mean all can't be all that bad rob you mean all the American couples that have offices the American couples that have offices the American couples that have offices in Ireland Ireland Ireland ultimate tax in Ireland Ireland Ireland ultimate tax in Ireland Ireland Ireland ultimate tax Haven yeah yeah think about it think Haven yeah yeah think about it think Haven yeah yeah think about it think about it yeah okay so play the game you gotta give props to Greg Khan you gotta give props to Greg Khan um and his whole digital organization um and his whole digital organization um and his whole digital organization you know uh you talked about the you know uh you talked about the you know uh you talked about the metaverse web 3 had an amazing dinner metaverse web 3 had an amazing dinner metaverse web 3 had an amazing dinner that he put on but I couldn't ask my that he put on but I couldn't ask my that he put on but I couldn't ask my question you could ask your question question you could ask your question question you could ask your question uh go ahead uh go ahead uh go ahead go no no no no no no uh so yeah it's go no no no no no no uh so yeah it's go no no no no no no uh so yeah it's just a one minute answer uh it's just a one minute answer uh it's just a one minute answer uh it's um um um today I was replying a message from today I was replying a message from today I was replying a message from upsell from iot Creator saying that upsell from iot Creator saying that upsell from iot Creator saying that nbiot was there so yeah yeah uh well he nbiot was there so yeah yeah uh well he nbiot was there so yeah yeah uh well he said that was that uh it uh did you see said that was that uh it uh did you see said that was that uh it uh did you see a lot of nbiot on CES a lot of nbiot on CES a lot of nbiot on CES um yeah um yeah um yeah you know um you know um you know um well there's this area in in the well there's this area in in the well there's this area in in the whatever North Hall had a lot of the whatever North Hall had a lot of the whatever North Hall had a lot of the wireless

  39. wireless wireless Sim kind of mvno iot sim companies and Sim kind of mvno iot sim companies and Sim kind of mvno iot sim companies and um every one of them it was either nbit um every one of them it was either nbit um every one of them it was either nbit or LTM you know that kind of thing was or LTM you know that kind of thing was or LTM you know that kind of thing was the deal and so whether it's big players the deal and so whether it's big players the deal and so whether it's big players like once or Blues Wireless like once or Blues Wireless like once or Blues Wireless um um um I saw what is it simcom I saw what is it simcom I saw what is it simcom um they were all they were all there um they were all they were all there um they were all they were all there together together together and so uh and so uh and so uh I wouldn't necessarily say they were I wouldn't necessarily say they were I wouldn't necessarily say they were going out of their way to talk about going out of their way to talk about going out of their way to talk about nbiot it was just like we got Sims nbiot it was just like we got Sims nbiot it was just like we got Sims yeah yeah I I spent a little time with yeah yeah I I spent a little time with yeah yeah I I spent a little time with the Nordic uh semiconductor guys and um the Nordic uh semiconductor guys and um the Nordic uh semiconductor guys and um they mentioned mbiot but again you know they mentioned mbiot but again you know they mentioned mbiot but again you know it I mean it I mean it I mean at the moment it's more like here we at the moment it's more like here we at the moment it's more like here we have options have options have options uh more than I mean they didn't uh more than I mean they didn't uh more than I mean they didn't necessarily call out uh you know uh necessarily call out uh you know uh necessarily call out uh you know uh anything else uh in particular they just anything else uh in particular they just anything else uh in particular they just said look you know whatever you need said look you know whatever you need said look you know whatever you need we can support it type of thing but did we can support it type of thing but did we can support it type of thing but did they talk about the cost of modules um they said that the supply is getting um they said that the supply is getting better uh and so pricing is starting I better uh and so pricing is starting I better uh and so pricing is starting I mean you know what you heard a lot of mean you know what you heard a lot of mean you know what you heard a lot of people talk about is how things are people talk about is how things are people talk about is how things are going to get cheaper the chips are going going to get cheaper the chips are going going to get cheaper the chips are going to get cheaper which is weird I I you to get cheaper which is weird I I you to get cheaper which is weird I I you know to hear it from folks and having know to hear it from folks and having know to hear it from folks and having them really point it out as being them really point it out as being them really point it out as being something that you can anticipate

  40. something that you can anticipate something that you can anticipate um right now at least um right now at least um right now at least um but a lot I think a lot of folks are um but a lot I think a lot of folks are um but a lot I think a lot of folks are thinking that pricing will go down it's more of an observation in fact if it's more of an observation in fact if you want to find that Leonard and I put you want to find that Leonard and I put you want to find that Leonard and I put up a new website it's called up a new website it's called up a new website it's called cheapchips.com cheapchips.com cheapchips.com [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] check it out go check it out you can buy check it out go check it out you can buy check it out go check it out you can buy your chips right there just click put it your chips right there just click put it your chips right there just click put it yeah well it might be good news for you yeah well it might be good news for you yeah well it might be good news for you mark because I know that you you always mark because I know that you you always mark because I know that you you always talk about how uh it's really you know talk about how uh it's really you know talk about how uh it's really you know the the chip shortage still impacts you the the chip shortage still impacts you the the chip shortage still impacts you guys guys guys um in Europe um in Europe um in Europe um but it that was one of the things um but it that was one of the things um but it that was one of the things that I heard that it kind of shocked me that I heard that it kind of shocked me that I heard that it kind of shocked me I was like what the f you know but uh I was like what the f you know but uh I was like what the f you know but uh hey we're this is running really late so hey we're this is running really late so hey we're this is running really late so we gotta jump off before we bore the we gotta jump off before we bore the we gotta jump off before we bore the crap out of everyone even on Spotify crap out of everyone even on Spotify crap out of everyone even on Spotify yeah and I gotta go to work I really do I really do um yes what I gotta do my business so uh um yes what I gotta do my business so uh um yes what I gotta do my business so uh hey uh Sergeant Slaughter why don't you hey uh Sergeant Slaughter why don't you hey uh Sergeant Slaughter why don't you take us out because you're in uh you're take us out because you're in uh you're take us out because you're in uh you're doing that whole cosplay thing so doing that whole cosplay thing so doing that whole cosplay thing so well all right this is Rip from well all right this is Rip from well all right this is Rip from Yellowstone and I'm so glad that you Yellowstone and I'm so glad that you Yellowstone and I'm so glad that you Partners decided to join us on iot Partners decided to join us on iot Partners decided to join us on iot coffee talk coffee talk coffee talk where you heard it's a stuff today about where you heard it's a stuff today about where you heard it's a stuff today about CEs in Las Vegas you know where you lose

  41. CEs in Las Vegas you know where you lose CEs in Las Vegas you know where you lose all your money and so you can find us at all your money and so you can find us at all your money and so you can find us at www.iotcoffee.com on the YouTubes or you www.iotcoffee.com on the YouTubes or you www.iotcoffee.com on the YouTubes or you can listen to us can listen to us can listen to us on Spotify on Apple podcast and on on Spotify on Apple podcast and on on Spotify on Apple podcast and on Google podcasts and many others that you Google podcasts and many others that you Google podcasts and many others that you have never heard of have never heard of have never heard of don't make me angry though because I don't make me angry though because I don't make me angry though because I will take you to the train station and will take you to the train station and will take you to the train station and you know what happens when you go to the you know what happens when you go to the you know what happens when you go to the train station so thank you so much and train station so thank you so much and train station so thank you so much and we are out we are out we are out damn dudes damn Dukes all right Roscoe all right Roscoe we'll see you we'll see you we'll see you next week bye see you next week next week bye see you next week next week bye see you next week [Music]

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The discussion revolves around the audio and visual quality of tech content, specifically on "IoT Coffee Talk," referencing artists like Jimi Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen. The practical takeaway is that while polished content is often expected, the "grit" of less-than-perfect broadcasts can make them feel more authentic and relatable to the audience.

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