IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 306 - "AI-assisted Friendly Fire" (How to Lose at Machine Speed!)

>> Oh my >> Oh my >> Good jam. Good jam. >> Good jam. Good jam. >> Good jam. Good jam. Absolutely. Oh, it's so good, man. Absolutely. Oh, it's so good, man. Absolutely. Oh, it's so good, man. Wow. You know, I think it's possible that You know, I think it's possible that people will mistake IoT Coffee Talk for people will mistake IoT Coffee Talk for people will mistake IoT Coffee Talk for an Van Halen cover band. You know that. an Van Halen cover band. You know that. an Van Halen cover band. You know that. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> We We're supposed to go on the road, >> We We're supposed to go on the road, >> We We're supposed to go on the road, guys. What the hell? Yeah. guys. What the hell? Yeah. guys. What the hell? Yeah. Yeah. Uh Well, we have been on the road. Yeah. Uh Well, we have been on the road. Yeah. Uh Well, we have been on the road. We have been on the Yes, we have been. We have been on the Yes, we have been. We have been on the Yes, we have been. And That's true. You know, the funny And That's true. You know, the funny And That's true. You know, the funny thing is I have been playing. Um thing is I have been playing. Um thing is I have been playing. Um the only reason why I didn't the only reason why I didn't the only reason why I didn't end up joining all of you guys on the end up joining all of you guys on the end up joining all of you guys on the aircraft carrier is because aircraft carrier is because aircraft carrier is because I was in San Francisco I was in San Francisco I was in San Francisco at a at a at a uh uh uh I don't know if it was a speak easy or a I don't know if it was a speak easy or a I don't know if it was a speak easy or a club. But yeah, the club. But yeah, the club. But yeah, the folks at Cisco and uh folks at Cisco and uh folks at Cisco and uh Zscaler and Amobee Zscaler and Amobee Zscaler and Amobee uh they hosted uh a a jam. And so I got uh they hosted uh a a jam. And so I got uh they hosted uh a a jam. And so I got to to to >> Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it was really >> Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it was really >> Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it was really cool. And they have a lot of talented cool. And they have a lot of talented cool. And they have a lot of talented musicians. Yeah. Amobee, yeah. As well musicians. Yeah. Amobee, yeah. As well musicians. Yeah. Amobee, yeah. As well as Cisco. So it was pretty impressive.

as Cisco. So it was pretty impressive. as Cisco. So it was pretty impressive. Do you remember what songs you did? Do you remember what songs you did? Do you remember what songs you did? Uh Oye Como Va. There was uh Beat It. Uh Oye Como Va. There was uh Beat It. Uh Oye Como Va. There was uh Beat It. I'm not Beat It. Um Another One Bites I'm not Beat It. Um Another One Bites I'm not Beat It. Um Another One Bites the Dust. All right. the Dust. All right. the Dust. All right. And then I jumped in on a few others. I And then I jumped in on a few others. I And then I jumped in on a few others. I don't remember. I had quite a few um don't remember. I had quite a few um don't remember. I had quite a few um old-fashioned, so old-fashioned, so old-fashioned, so I see. Yeah. I see. Yeah. I see. Yeah. After the third or fourth one it gets a After the third or fourth one it gets a After the third or fourth one it gets a little hazy. little hazy. little hazy. Yeah. So hey, everybody, IoT Coffee Talk Yeah. So hey, everybody, IoT Coffee Talk Yeah. So hey, everybody, IoT Coffee Talk watchers and listeners, watchers and listeners, watchers and listeners, welcome to IoT Coffee Talk. Yeah. Yeah. welcome to IoT Coffee Talk. Yeah. Yeah. welcome to IoT Coffee Talk. Yeah. Yeah. And remember And remember And remember >> here. >> here. >> here. to take us seriously. to take us seriously. to take us seriously. And don't take us seriously. And don't take us seriously. And don't take us seriously. >> going to say I was going to at your own >> going to say I was going to at your own >> going to say I was going to at your own risk. risk. risk. Don't take us seriously because we're Don't take us seriously because we're Don't take us seriously because we're just having fun. And we may eke out some just having fun. And we may eke out some just having fun. And we may eke out some informational stuff, but it's mostly for informational stuff, but it's mostly for informational stuff, but it's mostly for entertainment purposes only. entertainment purposes only. entertainment purposes only. >> If you're not careful If you're not >> If you're not careful If you're not >> If you're not careful If you're not careful, you may learn something, right?

careful, you may learn something, right? careful, you may learn something, right? That's what Fat Albert used to say. That's what Fat Albert used to say. That's what Fat Albert used to say. Oh my god, Fat Albert. That's a blast Oh my god, Fat Albert. That's a blast Oh my god, Fat Albert. That's a blast from the past. I love that. from the past. I love that. from the past. I love that. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] That's That's where I That's That's where I That's That's where I got my morals. got my morals. got my morals. >> Hey, hey, hey. >> Hey, hey, hey. >> Hey, hey, hey. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. That's cool. I can imagine you guys That's cool. I can imagine you guys That's cool. I can imagine you guys doing Oye Como Va, man. doing Oye Como Va, man. doing Oye Como Va, man. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, that's a good Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, that's a good Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, that's a good jam. That's a good jam. jam. That's a good jam. jam. That's a good jam. Yeah, it's a great jam. You know, I saw um I saw You know, I saw um I saw Gregg Rolie from Santana and Journey. Gregg Rolie from Santana and Journey. Gregg Rolie from Santana and Journey. Really? But it it was it was it was like Really? But it it was it was it was like Really? But it it was it was it was like last year or whatever. last year or whatever. last year or whatever. Got together, you know. A lot of people Got together, you know. A lot of people Got together, you know. A lot of people don't realize that Journey came from don't realize that Journey came from don't realize that Journey came from Santana. Yeah. Santana. Yeah. Santana. Yeah. Neal Schon was the product player. Yeah. Neal Schon was the product player. Yeah. Neal Schon was the product player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so uh what That's such a Yeah. Yeah. And so uh what That's such a Yeah. Yeah. And so uh what That's such a cool song. It's so unique, you know? I cool song. It's so unique, you know? I cool song. It's so unique, you know? I saw Santana at the Saratoga Performing saw Santana at the Saratoga Performing saw Santana at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center. Arts Center. Arts Center. It was like one of my first concerts I It was like one of my first concerts I It was like one of my first concerts I ever went to. It was uh it was pretty ever went to. It was uh it was pretty ever went to. It was uh it was pretty wild. Yeah, that was a good initiation.

wild. Yeah, that was a good initiation. wild. Yeah, that was a good initiation. Yeah, it is. That's a great in Yeah, it is. That's a great in Yeah, it is. That's a great in Dude, [snorts and clears throat] what Dude, [snorts and clears throat] what Dude, [snorts and clears throat] what the the the Hey, Pete, you sound really good. What Hey, Pete, you sound really good. What Hey, Pete, you sound really good. What the hell are you wearing? the hell are you wearing? the hell are you wearing? I'm just AirPod Pro 3. Really? Yeah. No, I'm just AirPod Pro 3. Really? Yeah. No, I'm just AirPod Pro 3. Really? Yeah. No, the mics on these things are It sounds the mics on these things are It sounds the mics on these things are It sounds like you're on a a freaking pro mic. like you're on a a freaking pro mic. like you're on a a freaking pro mic. No, I I I think the mics on these No, I I I think the mics on these No, I I I think the mics on these things, that's kind of a secret weapon. things, that's kind of a secret weapon. things, that's kind of a secret weapon. I think it's really They're really good. I think it's really They're really good. I think it's really They're really good. Yeah. That's good. I think you just now Yeah. That's good. I think you just now Yeah. That's good. I think you just now I think Apple's going to send both of I think Apple's going to send both of I think Apple's going to send both of you little earbuds in the mail, you you little earbuds in the mail, you you little earbuds in the mail, you know. Brought to you by know. Brought to you by know. Brought to you by Yeah, I thought you were on a pro mic. Yeah, I thought you were on a pro mic. Yeah, I thought you were on a pro mic. Oh, it's just AirPod Pro [laughter] 3. That'll be clipped. That's AI clip right That'll be clipped. That's AI clip right there. there. there. I'm actually on the street here in San I'm actually on the street here in San I'm actually on the street here in San Diego with my coffee. Oh, awesome. Diego with my coffee. Oh, awesome. Diego with my coffee. Oh, awesome. Enjoying a little San Diego morning. Enjoying a little San Diego morning. Enjoying a little San Diego morning. We're here all weekend after the the big We're here all weekend after the the big We're here all weekend after the the big show. And we're going to go grab some show. And we're going to go grab some show. And we're going to go grab some breakfast, but Congratulations. breakfast, but Congratulations. breakfast, but Congratulations. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, that was fun. That was intense. I mean, it started on That was intense. I mean, it started on That was intense. I mean, it started on Monday. We had Monday We had a board Monday. We had Monday We had a board Monday. We had Monday We had a board meeting. We had a partner like 2-hour meeting. We had a partner like 2-hour meeting. We had a partner like 2-hour partner thing at Qualcomm.

partner thing at Qualcomm. partner thing at Qualcomm. We had the VIP reception Monday night. We had the VIP reception Monday night. We had the VIP reception Monday night. We had We had We had three full days, Tuesday, Wednesday, three full days, Tuesday, Wednesday, three full days, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of talks and workshops and Thursday of talks and workshops and Thursday of talks and workshops and panels and mixers. And yeah, the Midway panels and mixers. And yeah, the Midway panels and mixers. And yeah, the Midway we were on the USS Midway the other we were on the USS Midway the other we were on the USS Midway the other night, so night, so night, so Today is a day of quiet and a day of Today is a day of quiet and a day of Today is a day of quiet and a day of rest. rest. rest. >> Wonderful. >> Wonderful. >> Wonderful. >> There you go. Uh great event, Pete. You knocked it out Uh great event, Pete. You knocked it out of the park, man. of the park, man. of the park, man. >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it was >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it was >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it was great to see both of you there. And um great to see both of you there. And um great to see both of you there. And um Yeah, no, it was a lot of fun. It's fun, Yeah, no, it was a lot of fun. It's fun, Yeah, no, it was a lot of fun. It's fun, you know, to catch up with folks in real you know, to catch up with folks in real you know, to catch up with folks in real life. I mean, frankly, that's one of the life. I mean, frankly, that's one of the life. I mean, frankly, that's one of the benefits of these things, right? Is benefits of these things, right? Is benefits of these things, right? Is Yeah. uh folks that you see on these Yeah. uh folks that you see on these Yeah. uh folks that you see on these little screens that you get to see in little screens that you get to see in little screens that you get to see in person every so often. So that was cool. person every so often. So that was cool. person every so often. So that was cool. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. It was amazing. You have these like two It was amazing. You have these like two It was amazing. You have these like two big rooms side by side, you know, doing big rooms side by side, you know, doing big rooms side by side, you know, doing the big events live on the other side. the big events live on the other side. the big events live on the other side. Workshops going the whole time. Yeah, Workshops going the whole time. Yeah, Workshops going the whole time. Yeah, the workshops were hot. Yeah, they were the workshops were hot. Yeah, they were the workshops were hot. Yeah, they were packed. packed. packed. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's just a >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's just a >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's just a desire for people to get hands-on with desire for people to get hands-on with desire for people to get hands-on with this stuff and learn it, which is great. this stuff and learn it, which is great. this stuff and learn it, which is great. Well, you know, what I what I was really Well, you know, what I what I was really Well, you know, what I what I was really impressed with was just the technical impressed with was just the technical impressed with was just the technical substance. It was awesome. I actually I substance. It was awesome. I actually I substance. It was awesome. I actually I learned a lot of stuff.

learned a lot of stuff. learned a lot of stuff. Yeah. Just [clears throat] uh Yeah. Just [clears throat] uh Yeah. Just [clears throat] uh you know, you know, you know, through osmosis, you know? Half of the through osmosis, you know? Half of the through osmosis, you know? Half of the stuff stuff stuff There's no way I could understand it There's no way I could understand it There's no way I could understand it because it's like deep research. because it's like deep research. because it's like deep research. Yeah, we had a whole research track. So Yeah, we had a whole research track. So Yeah, we had a whole research track. So we had a bunch of PhD candidates we had a bunch of PhD candidates we had a bunch of PhD candidates presenting their research. And you know, presenting their research. And you know, presenting their research. And you know, a lot of them I mean, some of them went a lot of them I mean, some of them went a lot of them I mean, some of them went straight to math camp. Others I think straight to math camp. Others I think straight to math camp. Others I think also did a really good job of explaining also did a really good job of explaining also did a really good job of explaining it for everybody else, right? Who's like it for everybody else, right? Who's like it for everybody else, right? Who's like not a PhD candidate. Uh not a PhD candidate. Uh not a PhD candidate. Uh so that was cool. Yeah, and so you do so that was cool. Yeah, and so you do so that was cool. Yeah, and so you do learn stuff just by kind of soaking it learn stuff just by kind of soaking it learn stuff just by kind of soaking it in a little bit. in a little bit. in a little bit. And uh we had some We had a professor And uh we had some We had a professor And uh we had some We had a professor from UCSD and one from UC Riverside and from UCSD and one from UC Riverside and from UCSD and one from UC Riverside and and all that. So yeah, that adds a nice and all that. So yeah, that adds a nice and all that. So yeah, that adds a nice little element. And also the nice thing little element. And also the nice thing little element. And also the nice thing is those aren't product pitches, you is those aren't product pitches, you is those aren't product pitches, you know? They're just talking about the know? They're just talking about the know? They're just talking about the tech and what's possible and how things tech and what's possible and how things tech and what's possible and how things work and work and work and there's no sales pitch at the end. Um there's no sales pitch at the end. Um there's no sales pitch at the end. Um which is refreshing, I think, these which is refreshing, I think, these which is refreshing, I think, these days. Yeah, that was cool. UCSD should days. Yeah, that was cool. UCSD should days. Yeah, that was cool. UCSD should absolutely be saying one of the best absolutely be saying one of the best absolutely be saying one of the best engineering schools there is out there. engineering schools there is out there. engineering schools there is out there. Thank you very much. Yeah, they Thank you very much. Yeah, they Thank you very much. Yeah, they represented. They represented. A lot of represented. They represented. A lot of represented. They represented. A lot of Tritons there. A lot of Tritons.

Tritons there. A lot of Tritons. Tritons there. A lot of Tritons. I still to this day don't know what the I still to this day don't know what the I still to this day don't know what the hell a mascot is for the Triton. hell a mascot is for the Triton. hell a mascot is for the Triton. Pitchfork. They're going to stab you, Pitchfork. They're going to stab you, Pitchfork. They're going to stab you, man. They're coming for you. man. They're coming for you. man. They're coming for you. That part sucked, man. I mean, you know, That part sucked, man. I mean, you know, That part sucked, man. I mean, you know, and the two schools I go to don't have a and the two schools I go to don't have a and the two schools I go to don't have a real [ __ ] mascot. real [ __ ] mascot. real [ __ ] mascot. Really? Really? Really? Stanford has a tree. Has a tree. UCSD Stanford has a tree. Has a tree. UCSD Stanford has a tree. Has a tree. UCSD has a damn Triton. What the hell is has a damn Triton. What the hell is has a damn Triton. What the hell is Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, you know what? That is true. It's >> Yeah, you know what? That is true. It's >> Yeah, you know what? That is true. It's a pitchfork. And that's my alma mater, a pitchfork. And that's my alma mater, a pitchfork. And that's my alma mater, man. So man. So man. So You and me both. That's like You and me both. That's like You and me both. That's like um yeah. What you um yeah. What you um yeah. What you >> it's King Triton. Is it King Triton or >> it's King Triton. Is it King Triton or >> it's King Triton. Is it King Triton or is it the Triton itself? I don't know. is it the Triton itself? I don't know. is it the Triton itself? I don't know. Uh is King King Triton the No, it's Uh is King King Triton the No, it's Uh is King King Triton the No, it's right. There's Triton and then there's right. There's Triton and then there's right. There's Triton and then there's trident, right? Trident. But yeah, it is trident, right? Trident. But yeah, it is trident, right? Trident. But yeah, it is pretty much pitchfork. And pretty much pitchfork. And pretty much pitchfork. And I don't know. Is there like an old dude I don't know. Is there like an old dude I don't know. Is there like an old dude with like a fish body? I think there is with like a fish body? I think there is with like a fish body? I think there is a guy who runs around there. I saw the a guy who runs around there. I saw the a guy who runs around there. I saw the guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't there a guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't there a guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't there a costumed Yeah. No, you're right. But But costumed Yeah. No, you're right. But But costumed Yeah. No, you're right. But But yeah, my wife Kathy always complains yeah, my wife Kathy always complains yeah, my wife Kathy always complains about Stanford having a tree. And what's about Stanford having a tree. And what's about Stanford having a tree. And what's the What's the What's a cardinal? You the What's the What's a cardinal? You the What's the What's a cardinal? You know?

know? know? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And And their deal is like fear the >> And And their deal is like fear the >> And And their deal is like fear the tree. Go trees. Go trees. Go trees. Go trees. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I mean, I mean, what do we got? Pollen. >> I mean, I mean, what do we got? Pollen. >> I mean, I mean, what do we got? Pollen. We got pollen. That's what we got. Oh my god. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. I Oh my god. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that you you went to UCSD, didn't know that you you went to UCSD, didn't know that you you went to UCSD, dude. That's awesome. dude. That's awesome. dude. That's awesome. >> Jacobs School of Engineering, baby. Oh, >> Jacobs School of Engineering, baby. Oh, >> Jacobs School of Engineering, baby. Oh, no wonder. No wonder we're like no wonder. No wonder we're like no wonder. No wonder we're like brothers, man. You know. Okay. Okay. brothers, man. You know. Okay. Okay. brothers, man. You know. Okay. Okay. Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. [clears throat] Oh, yeah. Serious serious stuff. Um Oh, yeah. Serious serious stuff. Um Oh, yeah. Serious serious stuff. Um Yeah. But yeah, you know, also, Pete, Yeah. But yeah, you know, also, Pete, Yeah. But yeah, you know, also, Pete, that venue you found, that venue you found, that venue you found, what a cool place. [clears throat] It what a cool place. [clears throat] It what a cool place. [clears throat] It was nice. Nice. Yeah, we're looking at was nice. Nice. Yeah, we're looking at was nice. Nice. Yeah, we're looking at the harbor. the harbor. the harbor. And And And uh yeah, brand new place. So it was good uh yeah, brand new place. So it was good uh yeah, brand new place. So it was good to to break them in a little bit. And uh to to break them in a little bit. And uh to to break them in a little bit. And uh Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. >> Yeah, very high quality. So yeah, we had >> Yeah, very high quality. So yeah, we had >> Yeah, very high quality. So yeah, we had a great event team, so Shout out to a great event team, so Shout out to a great event team, so Shout out to I I I wanted I wanted to come. It was I I I wanted I wanted to come. It was I I I wanted I wanted to come. It was just on the heels of Smart Cities just on the heels of Smart Cities just on the heels of Smart Cities Connect and GTC and Connect and GTC and Connect and GTC and >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> I was I know. It's crowded. It's >> I was I know. It's crowded. It's >> I was I know. It's crowded. It's crowded. Well, we'll see in London. June crowded. Well, we'll see in London. June crowded. Well, we'll see in London. June 8th and 9th. So that's the next thing.

8th and 9th. So that's the next thing. 8th and 9th. So that's the next thing. All right. L O N D O N. What's the All right. L O N D O N. What's the All right. L O N D O N. What's the weather What's the weather like there in weather What's the weather like there in weather What's the weather like there in Who cares, man? London? Let's take an Who cares, man? London? Let's take an Who cares, man? London? Let's take an umbrella, man. Summertime. It's the umbrella, man. Summertime. It's the umbrella, man. Summertime. It's the usual. You never know. usual. You never know. usual. You never know. You never know. And also, you know, Pete You never know. And also, you know, Pete You never know. And also, you know, Pete meet the requirement cuz all the people meet the requirement cuz all the people meet the requirement cuz all the people uh you know, the AGI ideal, they all uh you know, the AGI ideal, they all uh you know, the AGI ideal, they all said, "You know what? The next event has said, "You know what? The next event has said, "You know what? The next event has to have a view of at least two aircraft to have a view of at least two aircraft to have a view of at least two aircraft carriers." carriers." carriers." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And you delivered. You know, you >> And you delivered. You know, you >> And you delivered. You know, you delivered. There you go. Yeah, we had at delivered. There you go. Yeah, we had at delivered. There you go. Yeah, we had at least two, maybe three. Yeah, three. least two, maybe three. Yeah, three. least two, maybe three. Yeah, three. Right. We had on the third day we had uh Right. We had on the third day we had uh Right. We had on the third day we had uh this Rear Admiral Doug Small from the this Rear Admiral Doug Small from the this Rear Admiral Doug Small from the Navy give a really good talk and uh that Navy give a really good talk and uh that Navy give a really good talk and uh that was great. Great context about was great. Great context about was great. Great context about the challenges of integrating AI the challenges of integrating AI the challenges of integrating AI uh and AGI into kind of naval platforms. uh and AGI into kind of naval platforms. uh and AGI into kind of naval platforms. You can imagine, you know, he's saying You can imagine, you know, he's saying You can imagine, you know, he's saying it's like it takes like 10 years to it's like it takes like 10 years to it's like it takes like 10 years to build a ship. The ship's in build a ship. The ship's in build a ship. The ship's in in use for 50 years, you know, and how in use for 50 years, you know, and how in use for 50 years, you know, and how do you How do you And never mind the do you How do you And never mind the do you How do you And never mind the fact that he needs to work on a fact that he needs to work on a fact that he needs to work on a submarine and all this other stuff. So submarine and all this other stuff. So submarine and all this other stuff. So it's just a super challenge. it's just a super challenge. it's just a super challenge. >> You missed out, dude. I was like >> You missed out, dude. I was like >> You missed out, dude. I was like thinking Rob Tiffany half of his Yeah, thinking Rob Tiffany half of his Yeah, thinking Rob Tiffany half of his Yeah, that was a very much a Rob Tiffany that was a very much a Rob Tiffany that was a very much a Rob Tiffany discussion.

discussion. discussion. Yeah. Can you stick that [ __ ] in a Yeah. Can you stick that [ __ ] in a Yeah. Can you stick that [ __ ] in a submarine, you know? Okay. How come submarine, you know? Okay. How come submarine, you know? Okay. How come Rob's not here? [laughter] Rob's not here? [laughter] Rob's not here? [laughter] Why did he take off? I had to go catch a Why did he take off? I had to go catch a Why did he take off? I had to go catch a plane, but you're right. I should have I plane, but you're right. I should have I plane, but you're right. I should have I should have changed my flight. should have changed my flight. should have changed my flight. >> to go He had to wait in that TSA line. >> to go He had to wait in that TSA line. >> to go He had to wait in that TSA line. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Hey, I I was just I was just about to >> Hey, I I was just I was just about to >> Hey, I I was just I was just about to say um say um say um Bill, you got you got to pick up some of Bill, you got you got to pick up some of Bill, you got you got to pick up some of these uh AirPod 3s, dude. AirPod Pro or these uh AirPod 3s, dude. AirPod Pro or these uh AirPod 3s, dude. AirPod Pro or whatever. 3s. AirPod Pro 3? whatever. 3s. AirPod Pro 3? whatever. 3s. AirPod Pro 3? >> guy. Look at Listen, he's outside, dude. >> guy. Look at Listen, he's outside, dude. >> guy. Look at Listen, he's outside, dude. Test 1 2. Test 1 2. Test 1 2. Can you believe that? The the noise the Can you believe that? The the noise the Can you believe that? The the noise the noise suppression sounds awesome. I noise suppression sounds awesome. I noise suppression sounds awesome. I know. Off the chain, man. It's crazy. know. Off the chain, man. It's crazy. know. Off the chain, man. It's crazy. Hey, you don't worry about something Hey, you don't worry about something Hey, you don't worry about something else. You're giving like Apple else. You're giving like Apple else. You're giving like Apple advertising, dude. advertising, dude. advertising, dude. Then that is it. Yeah, yeah, AGI at Then that is it. Yeah, yeah, AGI at Then that is it. Yeah, yeah, AGI at That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm auditioning the uh Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm auditioning the uh Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm auditioning the uh new Samsung new Samsung new Samsung the V4 version of their Pro.

the V4 version of their Pro. the V4 version of their Pro. This is like Okay. This is like Okay. This is like Okay. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Are Are we This is like a benchmark. >> Are Are we This is like a benchmark. >> Are Are we This is like a benchmark. It's like a benchmark. And so when we It's like a benchmark. And so when we It's like a benchmark. And so when we play this back, we'll all be able to play this back, we'll all be able to play this back, we'll all be able to hear what we all sounded like. Yeah, hear what we all sounded like. Yeah, hear what we all sounded like. Yeah, yeah. You'll be able to hear how how did yeah. You'll be able to hear how how did yeah. You'll be able to hear how how did Samsung improve? Samsung improve? Samsung improve? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I can tell you right now it's losing. >> I can tell you right now it's losing. >> I can tell you right now it's losing. Oh, no. Oh, no. No point now. No. No Oh, no. Oh, no. No point now. No. No Oh, no. Oh, no. No point now. No. No point now. Yeah. Well, you know, so much point now. Yeah. Well, you know, so much point now. Yeah. Well, you know, so much for I don't I don't subscribe to either for I don't I don't subscribe to either for I don't I don't subscribe to either one of them, neither Apple nor Samsung one of them, neither Apple nor Samsung one of them, neither Apple nor Samsung on that end. It's status. Yeah, status. on that end. It's status. Yeah, status. on that end. It's status. Yeah, status. Status The status No, the status Status The status No, the status Status The status No, the status earbuds. Oh. earbuds. Oh. earbuds. Oh. Oh. Really? But you're probably it's Oh. Really? But you're probably it's Oh. Really? But you're probably it's probably um powered by uh Snapdragon in probably um powered by uh Snapdragon in probably um powered by uh Snapdragon in all likelihood. Yes. Probably. Most of all likelihood. Yes. Probably. Most of all likelihood. Yes. Probably. Most of them are. I would doubt it. Everything them are. I would doubt it. Everything them are. I would doubt it. Everything else is. else is. else is. And I've paired these with a Windows 11 And I've paired these with a Windows 11 And I've paired these with a Windows 11 desktop and so I don't have any control desktop and so I don't have any control desktop and so I don't have any control on turning on any of the features of it on turning on any of the features of it on turning on any of the features of it like like like it is on the phone.

it is on the phone. it is on the phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know You're going from bad to Yeah. You know You're going from bad to Yeah. You know You're going from bad to worse there. Yeah. That's right. It's worse there. Yeah. That's right. It's worse there. Yeah. That's right. It's like a double edge. I didn't feel I I like a double edge. I didn't feel I I like a double edge. I didn't feel I I have to admit I didn't feel so isolated, have to admit I didn't feel so isolated, have to admit I didn't feel so isolated, you know, having a Samsung device at you know, having a Samsung device at you know, having a Samsung device at this event. Yeah. You know, this event. Yeah. You know, this event. Yeah. You know, unlike everyone else with iPhones unlike everyone else with iPhones unlike everyone else with iPhones because you know, Qualcomm brought the because you know, Qualcomm brought the because you know, Qualcomm brought the love and Qualcomm love and Qualcomm love and Qualcomm is in love with this stuff because is in love with this stuff because is in love with this stuff because that's their That's their showcase. Yes. that's their That's their showcase. Yes. that's their That's their showcase. Yes. for the entire Snapdragon. for the entire Snapdragon. for the entire Snapdragon. Durga's Durga He know was incredible. Durga's Durga He know was incredible. Durga's Durga He know was incredible. Yeah, he was great. He was great. He's Yeah, he was great. He was great. He's Yeah, he was great. He was great. He's always good. Yeah, he's on Yeah. always good. Yeah, he's on Yeah. always good. Yeah, he's on Yeah. Yeah, he was really Yeah, he was really Yeah, he was really He was really good. So that stuff's He was really good. So that stuff's He was really good. So that stuff's going to start getting on YouTube next going to start getting on YouTube next going to start getting on YouTube next week. So people can watch the channel week. So people can watch the channel week. So people can watch the channel and So good. experience that. We had a and So good. experience that. We had a and So good. experience that. We had a guy from AWS talked about guy from AWS talked about guy from AWS talked about David Randall, physical AI. Yeah, that David Randall, physical AI. Yeah, that David Randall, physical AI. Yeah, that was great. And DeepX DeepX was there. was great. And DeepX DeepX was there. was great. And DeepX DeepX was there. Yeah. talking about their MPUs. Yeah, it Yeah. talking about their MPUs. Yeah, it Yeah. talking about their MPUs. Yeah, it was really cool. Pretty cool stuff.

was really cool. Pretty cool stuff. was really cool. Pretty cool stuff. Real real heavy hitters, you know? Yeah. Real real heavy hitters, you know? Yeah. Real real heavy hitters, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That was good. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That was good. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That was good. Impressive. I'm wearing my local I don't Impressive. I'm wearing my local I don't Impressive. I'm wearing my local I don't know this is like supposed to be a local know this is like supposed to be a local know this is like supposed to be a local famous record store. Boo Boo Records. famous record store. Boo Boo Records. famous record store. Boo Boo Records. San Luis Obispo. Okay. Love it. San Luis Obispo. Okay. Love it. San Luis Obispo. Okay. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. It's awesome. We are always trying to It's awesome. We are always trying to It's awesome. We are always trying to find cool record stores. Of course. find cool record stores. Of course. find cool record stores. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> Oh, really? Yeah. >> Oh, really? Yeah. >> Oh, really? Yeah. They do. I mean, every time I take my They do. I mean, every time I take my They do. I mean, every time I take my daughter thrift shopping, we you know, daughter thrift shopping, we you know, daughter thrift shopping, we you know, it's got to got to stop in there. it's got to got to stop in there. it's got to got to stop in there. Uh Uh Uh so I mean Good shout out. so I mean Good shout out. so I mean Good shout out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there was Yeah. Yeah, there was Yeah. Yeah, there was Yeah, you one of the things that I took Yeah, you one of the things that I took Yeah, you one of the things that I took away from Admiral retired Admiral away from Admiral retired Admiral away from Admiral retired Admiral Small's talk was Small's talk was Small's talk was um um um the military is not going bonkers. the military is not going bonkers. the military is not going bonkers. They're actually learning a lot of They're actually learning a lot of They're actually learning a lot of really important things out in the field really important things out in the field really important things out in the field in the application of AI. And in the application of AI. And in the application of AI. And you know, if you want to talk about a you know, if you want to talk about a you know, if you want to talk about a constrained constrained constrained um um um intense environment, that's what the intense environment, that's what the intense environment, that's what the military environments are, right, Rob?

military environments are, right, Rob? military environments are, right, Rob? Sure. Like a lot of these um Sure. Like a lot of these um Sure. Like a lot of these um field scenarios. And they're very field scenarios. And they're very field scenarios. And they're very cautious cautious cautious about [clears throat] how they apply AI about [clears throat] how they apply AI about [clears throat] how they apply AI and there's a lot of human on the loop. and there's a lot of human on the loop. and there's a lot of human on the loop. Uh if there's any loop that's created, Uh if there's any loop that's created, Uh if there's any loop that's created, there's a human on it. Right? Human on there's a human on it. Right? Human on there's a human on it. Right? Human on the loop. Yeah, and there's all these the loop. Yeah, and there's all these the loop. Yeah, and there's all these novel novel novel >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> um system [clears throat] >> um system [clears throat] >> um system [clears throat] um designs um designs um designs uh uh uh you know, and flows that are not you know, and flows that are not you know, and flows that are not entirely autonomous, right? It really is entirely autonomous, right? It really is entirely autonomous, right? It really is to inform and provide the human with the to inform and provide the human with the to inform and provide the human with the decision decision decision and control uh to and control uh to and control uh to to um decide what the outcome is of to um decide what the outcome is of to um decide what the outcome is of anything, right? Especially the the kill anything, right? Especially the the kill anything, right? Especially the the kill decision. And so decision. And so decision. And so these these these these these these people romping around GTC people romping around GTC people romping around GTC they are so off.

they are so off. they are so off. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You know what I'm saying? >> You know what I'm saying? >> You know what I'm saying? What were they doing? What were they What were they doing? What were they What were they doing? What were they saying? No, because they they're all saying? No, because they they're all saying? No, because they they're all going around thinking that everything's going around thinking that everything's going around thinking that everything's going to be autonomous and then all the going to be autonomous and then all the going to be autonomous and then all the while you have these freaking kung fu while you have these freaking kung fu while you have these freaking kung fu robots in the background being remote robots in the background being remote robots in the background being remote controlled. controlled. controlled. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And so >> And so >> And so but here's the good thing. There's but here's the good thing. There's but here's the good thing. There's accountability. So [clears throat] when accountability. So [clears throat] when accountability. So [clears throat] when if one of these robots accidentally if one of these robots accidentally if one of these robots accidentally kicks the [ __ ] out of like uh a kicks the [ __ ] out of like uh a kicks the [ __ ] out of like uh a bystander bystander bystander that human that human that human >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> is responsible for it, right? So one of >> is responsible for it, right? So one of >> is responsible for it, right? So one of the things that um the things that um the things that um was brought up was brought up was brought up um um um actually actually actually um by uh G2 Patel and um by uh G2 Patel and um by uh G2 Patel and you know, during his Cisco presentation you know, during his Cisco presentation you know, during his Cisco presentation at RSAC was the accountability aspect. at RSAC was the accountability aspect. at RSAC was the accountability aspect. How do you associate accountability to How do you associate accountability to How do you associate accountability to AI agents? How do you associate AI agents? How do you associate AI agents? How do you associate accountability to anything that you deem accountability to anything that you deem accountability to anything that you deem autonomous, right? Cuz these things can autonomous, right? Cuz these things can autonomous, right? Cuz these things can go rogue on you. AI is not dependable.

go rogue on you. AI is not dependable. go rogue on you. AI is not dependable. Um and but who's responsible? What's the Um and but who's responsible? What's the Um and but who's responsible? What's the chain of responsibility and chain of responsibility and chain of responsibility and accountability? So accountability? So accountability? So you know, for a while I think a lot of you know, for a while I think a lot of you know, for a while I think a lot of this stuff is going to be remote this stuff is going to be remote this stuff is going to be remote controlled. For all we know, Waymo is controlled. For all we know, Waymo is controlled. For all we know, Waymo is just a bunch of just a bunch of just a bunch of folks in India remote controlled folks in India remote controlled folks in India remote controlled you know, operating these cars. you know, operating these cars. you know, operating these cars. Yikes. But some of the most Yikes. But some of the most Yikes. But some of the most [clears throat] talented [clears throat] talented [clears throat] talented you know, remote drivers in the world. you know, remote drivers in the world. you know, remote drivers in the world. Yeah. Yeah, think about it. How good of Yeah. Yeah, think about it. How good of Yeah. Yeah, think about it. How good of a driver you have to be to drive in a driver you have to be to drive in a driver you have to be to drive in India, right? The best driver. Oh my India, right? The best driver. Oh my India, right? The best driver. Oh my god, you know? And you can have like 100 god, you know? And you can have like 100 god, you know? And you can have like 100 millisecond latency. Guys are probably millisecond latency. Guys are probably millisecond latency. Guys are probably still the best drivers in the It's just still the best drivers in the It's just still the best drivers in the It's just mayhem. They're actually a combination mayhem. They're actually a combination mayhem. They're actually a combination of the worst and the best drivers. Yes, of the worst and the best drivers. Yes, of the worst and the best drivers. Yes, that's right. That's a That's a well that's right. That's a That's a well that's right. That's a That's a well said. That's absolutely You know, it's said. That's absolutely You know, it's said. That's absolutely You know, it's funny you're talking about this this funny you're talking about this this funny you're talking about this this tech and AI and edge and everything in tech and AI and edge and everything in tech and AI and edge and everything in the military. You know, in the past the military. You know, in the past the military. You know, in the past uh uh uh military tech, I used to keep my mouth military tech, I used to keep my mouth military tech, I used to keep my mouth shut talking about stuff like that cuz a shut talking about stuff like that cuz a shut talking about stuff like that cuz a whole lot of people at a lot of tech whole lot of people at a lot of tech whole lot of people at a lot of tech companies companies companies were violently against their company were violently against their company were violently against their company [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] doing anything with the US military.

doing anything with the US military. doing anything with the US military. And they would boycott and they say, And they would boycott and they say, And they would boycott and they say, "We're all quitting." or whatever. And I "We're all quitting." or whatever. And I "We're all quitting." or whatever. And I remember this at Google and lots of remember this at Google and lots of remember this at Google and lots of places. Um places. Um places. Um and there's definitely been a sea change and there's definitely been a sea change and there's definitely been a sea change cuz I can see it and hear it everywhere. cuz I can see it and hear it everywhere. cuz I can see it and hear it everywhere. The hottest area for most startups and The hottest area for most startups and The hottest area for most startups and tech people I know is going after tech people I know is going after tech people I know is going after defense these days. Yeah. I I never defense these days. Yeah. I I never defense these days. Yeah. I I never would have thought that would happen and would have thought that would happen and would have thought that would happen and yet they're like, "That's We're all in." yet they're like, "That's We're all in." yet they're like, "That's We're all in." And that's where the money is. DOD. And that's where the money is. DOD. And that's where the money is. DOD. That's That's That's crazy though. That's crazy. It It's crazy though. That's crazy. It It's crazy though. That's crazy. It It's crazy talk as far as I'm concerned. crazy talk as far as I'm concerned. crazy talk as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, it is. Going after going after I Yeah, it is. Going after going after I Yeah, it is. Going after going after I mean, the DOD and DHS and all of that mean, the DOD and DHS and all of that mean, the DOD and DHS and all of that stuff. stuff. stuff. It the the So Leonard, it was same thing It the the So Leonard, it was same thing It the the So Leonard, it was same thing I said in in the comments when you and I I said in in the comments when you and I I said in in the comments when you and I were going back and forth. And and and were going back and forth. And and and were going back and forth. And and and and and it equates for me down to and and it equates for me down to and and it equates for me down to accountability. Yeah. Um and and the and accountability. Yeah. Um and and the and accountability. Yeah. Um and and the and the simple fact that right now tech is the simple fact that right now tech is the simple fact that right now tech is We've talked about tech outpacing policy We've talked about tech outpacing policy We've talked about tech outpacing policy and everything like that, but never have and everything like that, but never have and everything like that, but never have I seen it outpace policy and standards I seen it outpace policy and standards I seen it outpace policy and standards the way that it is today. Mhm.

the way that it is today. Mhm. the way that it is today. Mhm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So to go after Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So to go after Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So to go after the DOD in the way that I'm seeing it the DOD in the way that I'm seeing it the DOD in the way that I'm seeing it happen, I'm like, "That's crazy talk." happen, I'm like, "That's crazy talk." happen, I'm like, "That's crazy talk." Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. The majority of them don't even The majority of them don't even The majority of them don't even understand nor do they have a military understand nor do they have a military understand nor do they have a military background to understand what it is that background to understand what it is that background to understand what it is that they're really doing. Yeah. they're really doing. Yeah. they're really doing. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, that's where there needs to be >> Well, that's where there needs to be >> Well, that's where there needs to be more dialogue about what qualifies the more dialogue about what qualifies the more dialogue about what qualifies the tech for, you know, deployment and those tech for, you know, deployment and those tech for, you know, deployment and those things. And that and they these things. And that and they these things. And that and they these discussions around accountability. It discussions around accountability. It discussions around accountability. It was good to hear the admiral talking was good to hear the admiral talking was good to hear the admiral talking about like being on the loop and about like being on the loop and about like being on the loop and he even said like some of the back he even said like some of the back he even said like some of the back office um kind of consumer tech that the office um kind of consumer tech that the office um kind of consumer tech that the military uses, you know, needs to be military uses, you know, needs to be military uses, you know, needs to be reconsidered. I mean, there was a reconsidered. I mean, there was a reconsidered. I mean, there was a anecdote I've heard anecdote I've heard anecdote I've heard about some aircraft carrier and it was about some aircraft carrier and it was about some aircraft carrier and it was like some there's some stealth ship at like some there's some stealth ship at like some there's some stealth ship at sea. sea. sea. It was out there. This was recently. No, It was out there. This was recently. No, It was out there. This was recently. No, on the French stealth carrier, which I on the French stealth carrier, which I on the French stealth carrier, which I don't don't don't >> French stealth carrier. >> French stealth carrier. >> French stealth carrier. >> There's no such thing. I never even >> There's no such thing. I never even >> There's no such thing. I never even heard of that. But anyway, heard of that. But anyway, heard of that. But anyway, this uh sailor was like running their this uh sailor was like running their this uh sailor was like running their laps or whatever, doing their morning laps or whatever, doing their morning laps or whatever, doing their morning jog around the deck and they had their jog around the deck and they had their jog around the deck and they had their Strava on Strava on Strava on and they were basically broadcasting and they were basically broadcasting and they were basically broadcasting their location through Strava and their location through Strava and their location through Strava and basically defeating the whole hundred basically defeating the whole hundred basically defeating the whole hundred billion dollar stealth tech, you know, billion dollar stealth tech, you know, billion dollar stealth tech, you know, with like one guy running his laps.

with like one guy running his laps. with like one guy running his laps. >> One guy. Oh my god. >> One guy. Oh my god. >> One guy. Oh my god. So, you thought think about all the tech So, you thought think about all the tech So, you thought think about all the tech that you know, sailors and folks use that you know, sailors and folks use that you know, sailors and folks use too. That all needs to be redone, but I too. That all needs to be redone, but I too. That all needs to be redone, but I mean, at least there's a good dialogue mean, at least there's a good dialogue mean, at least there's a good dialogue now going about it and and and hopefully now going about it and and and hopefully now going about it and and and hopefully intersecting with some of these intersecting with some of these intersecting with some of these rules around accountability, safety. We rules around accountability, safety. We rules around accountability, safety. We had a we had a presentation on sort of had a we had a presentation on sort of had a we had a presentation on sort of data provenance and data provenance and data provenance and how do you authenticate, you know, the how do you authenticate, you know, the how do you authenticate, you know, the data that models are trained on and data that models are trained on and data that models are trained on and things like that. Now, yeah, I agree things like that. Now, yeah, I agree things like that. Now, yeah, I agree with Bill. It's it's with Bill. It's it's with Bill. It's it's the cart is way ahead of the horse at the cart is way ahead of the horse at the cart is way ahead of the horse at this point. So, that needs to get fixed. this point. So, that needs to get fixed. this point. So, that needs to get fixed. Um I think CD-ROM technology is going to Um I think CD-ROM technology is going to Um I think CD-ROM technology is going to come back because everyone come back because everyone come back because everyone >> There you go. You you're not going to be >> There you go. You you're not going to be >> There you go. You you're not going to be able to stream BTS and Taylor Swift to able to stream BTS and Taylor Swift to able to stream BTS and Taylor Swift to your carrier. Bernoulli boxes. I think your carrier. Bernoulli boxes. I think your carrier. Bernoulli boxes. I think that's that's what I'm investing in. that's that's what I'm investing in. that's that's what I'm investing in. What the what the hell is a stealth What the what the hell is a stealth What the what the hell is a stealth carrier anyways? carrier anyways? carrier anyways? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I mean, how do you have a stealth >> I mean, how do you have a stealth >> I mean, how do you have a stealth carrier? Mhm. You wouldn't be able to carrier? Mhm. You wouldn't be able to carrier? Mhm. You wouldn't be able to launch anything off of it, right? I launch anything off of it, right? I launch anything off of it, right? I mean, that's like a I don't know. I mean mean, that's like a I don't know. I mean mean, that's like a I don't know. I mean No, you you launch stealth planes off of No, you you launch stealth planes off of No, you you launch stealth planes off of a stealth carrier, obviously. Yeah, but a stealth carrier, obviously. Yeah, but a stealth carrier, obviously. Yeah, but just because it's stealth just because it's stealth just because it's stealth doesn't mean that you have a stealth doesn't mean that you have a stealth doesn't mean that you have a stealth carrier.

carrier. carrier. >> but it's stealth, Leonard. It's stealth. >> but it's stealth, Leonard. It's stealth. >> but it's stealth, Leonard. It's stealth. It's like the word stealth in it. It's It's like the word stealth in it. It's It's like the word stealth in it. It's stealth because you just give Jeff Bezos stealth because you just give Jeff Bezos stealth because you just give Jeff Bezos a call and you'd launch him off of his a call and you'd launch him off of his a call and you'd launch him off of his yacht. There you go. Turn off those yacht. There you go. Turn off those yacht. There you go. Turn off those satellites for a few minutes, you know. satellites for a few minutes, you know. satellites for a few minutes, you know. So, yeah, like there's all these fanboys So, yeah, like there's all these fanboys So, yeah, like there's all these fanboys for Palmer Lucky, you know, over at for Palmer Lucky, you know, over at for Palmer Lucky, you know, over at Anduril and they're just seeing all this Anduril and they're just seeing all this Anduril and they're just seeing all this super advanced tech and they're seeing super advanced tech and they're seeing super advanced tech and they're seeing one of their people from Silicon Valley one of their people from Silicon Valley one of their people from Silicon Valley just just just taking it to Lockheed and General taking it to Lockheed and General taking it to Lockheed and General Dynamics and all these just established, Dynamics and all these just established, Dynamics and all these just established, you know, defense contractors and you know, defense contractors and you know, defense contractors and saying, we can beat them all, you know? saying, we can beat them all, you know? saying, we can beat them all, you know? And so, it's driving, you know, a lot of And so, it's driving, you know, a lot of And so, it's driving, you know, a lot of excitement, I guess, for startup excitement, I guess, for startup excitement, I guess, for startup founders. I don't know. founders. I don't know. founders. I don't know. We'll see. Who knows? Hey folks, I We'll see. Who knows? Hey folks, I We'll see. Who knows? Hey folks, I apologize, but I'm going to go grab some apologize, but I'm going to go grab some apologize, but I'm going to go grab some breakfast. Okay. Hey, hey. breakfast. Okay. Hey, hey. breakfast. Okay. Hey, hey. >> questions, dude. All right. >> questions, dude. All right. >> questions, dude. All right. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. See you all back in Seattle. >> Yeah. See you all back in Seattle. >> Yeah. See you all back in Seattle. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Dude, this thing just looks like a Dude, this thing just looks like a Dude, this thing just looks like a carrier. I don't see anything stealth carrier. I don't see anything stealth carrier. I don't see anything stealth about it. What the hell? It's quasi about it. What the hell? It's quasi about it. What the hell? It's quasi stealth.

stealth. stealth. >> The stealth the stealth part about it >> The stealth the stealth part about it >> The stealth the stealth part about it was that they told no one was that they told no one was that they told no one >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> until until the other guy was running >> until until the other guy was running >> until until the other guy was running around with his AirPods on. around with his AirPods on. around with his AirPods on. >> [laughter] >> Oh my god. Yeah. Wait, I mean >> Oh my god. Yeah. Wait, I mean See, this is all it's it's all [ __ ] See, this is all it's it's all [ __ ] See, this is all it's it's all [ __ ] man. There is no such thing. Built for man. There is no such thing. Built for man. There is no such thing. Built for stealth drones. stealth drones. stealth drones. I mean, we've got some stealth like I mean, we've got some stealth like I mean, we've got some stealth like frigates and destroyers that are shaped frigates and destroyers that are shaped frigates and destroyers that are shaped really funky and everything to reduce really funky and everything to reduce really funky and everything to reduce their radar profile on the water their radar profile on the water their radar profile on the water at a certain range to help them not be at a certain range to help them not be at a certain range to help them not be identified as quickly. But a carrier is identified as quickly. But a carrier is identified as quickly. But a carrier is too big. Yeah, it's too big too big. Yeah, it's too big too big. Yeah, it's too big Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, you got a you basically have a >> I mean, you got a you basically have a >> I mean, you got a you basically have a city on the water. city on the water. city on the water. Yeah. I mean, even so, they have this Yeah. I mean, even so, they have this Yeah. I mean, even so, they have this thing called uh thing called uh thing called uh French's uh Charles de Gaulle. I mean, French's uh Charles de Gaulle. I mean, French's uh Charles de Gaulle. I mean, it it just launches the Rafale M. It's a it it just launches the Rafale M. It's a it it just launches the Rafale M. It's a 4.5 generation fighter. It it quasi 4.5 generation fighter. It it quasi 4.5 generation fighter. It it quasi stealth. I mean, so I'm looking at this stealth. I mean, so I'm looking at this stealth. I mean, so I'm looking at this Google thingy and it's half of this Google thingy and it's half of this Google thingy and it's half of this stuff is like stuff is like stuff is like [ __ ] Um [ __ ] Um [ __ ] Um Yeah. And no, it's not a stealth Yeah. And no, it's not a stealth Yeah. And no, it's not a stealth carrier. Uh anyways, yeah, it's carrier. Uh anyways, yeah, it's carrier. Uh anyways, yeah, it's ridiculous. Imagine, that would be great ridiculous. Imagine, that would be great ridiculous. Imagine, that would be great though, right? Then you wouldn't have to though, right? Then you wouldn't have to though, right? Then you wouldn't have to have a carrier group.

have a carrier group. have a carrier group. You get rid of all of the support ships, You get rid of all of the support ships, You get rid of all of the support ships, right? right? right? Yeah. Operate this wonderful carrier in Yeah. Operate this wonderful carrier in Yeah. Operate this wonderful carrier in the middle of nowhere. I mean, that's the middle of nowhere. I mean, that's the middle of nowhere. I mean, that's why you have carrier groups to protect why you have carrier groups to protect why you have carrier groups to protect the aircraft carrier, the aircraft carrier, the aircraft carrier, right? right? right? Yeah. You're you're the you're the Yeah. You're you're the you're the Yeah. You're you're the you're the freaking naval guy, freaking naval guy, freaking naval guy, you know? you know? you know? No, [clears throat] there's that fear of No, [clears throat] there's that fear of No, [clears throat] there's that fear of these these these sitting duck decoys floating on the sitting duck decoys floating on the sitting duck decoys floating on the ocean, you know, and you you worry about ocean, you know, and you you worry about ocean, you know, and you you worry about enemy planes, enemy missiles getting too enemy planes, enemy missiles getting too enemy planes, enemy missiles getting too close, right? close, right? close, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, they're out >> Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, they're out >> Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, they're out there trying to protect the carrier, there trying to protect the carrier, there trying to protect the carrier, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> which is going to be harder and harder >> which is going to be harder and harder >> which is going to be harder and harder to do, honestly, forward with these to do, honestly, forward with these to do, honestly, forward with these hypersonic missiles and stuff like that. hypersonic missiles and stuff like that. hypersonic missiles and stuff like that. It it's tough. It really is tough. Well, It it's tough. It really is tough. Well, It it's tough. It really is tough. Well, that was one of the Yeah. that was one of the Yeah. that was one of the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And especially now that these things are And especially now that these things are And especially now that these things are not only plane-based, they can be not only plane-based, they can be not only plane-based, they can be launched off of like medium-range launched off of like medium-range launched off of like medium-range bombers and stuff like that, fighter bombers and stuff like that, fighter bombers and stuff like that, fighter bombers even.

bombers even. bombers even. Um or even fighter planes. I think um Um or even fighter planes. I think um Um or even fighter planes. I think um like in some of the new um like in some of the new um like in some of the new um Chinese um Chinese um Chinese um Chinese fighter planes can carry their Chinese fighter planes can carry their Chinese fighter planes can carry their latest hypersonic missiles. And same latest hypersonic missiles. And same latest hypersonic missiles. And same with I think Russia's using with I think Russia's using with I think Russia's using MiG-25 or MiG-28 Foxbat. MiG-25 or MiG-28 Foxbat. MiG-25 or MiG-28 Foxbat. Ha! You know what I'm saying? How are Ha! You know what I'm saying? How are Ha! You know what I'm saying? How are you going to catch up? you going to catch up? you going to catch up? That thing goes like Mach 3.2. That thing goes like Mach 3.2. That thing goes like Mach 3.2. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> That thing is like hypersonic, right? >> That thing is like hypersonic, right? >> That thing is like hypersonic, right? And I think they're using that as a And I think they're using that as a And I think they're using that as a hypersonic uh hypersonic uh hypersonic uh uh launch platform. uh launch platform. uh launch platform. Yeah, but the best hypersonic plane I Yeah, but the best hypersonic plane I Yeah, but the best hypersonic plane I saw Tom Cruise flying this Darkstar saw Tom Cruise flying this Darkstar saw Tom Cruise flying this Darkstar thing. thing. thing. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I WISH HE HAD HE PUSHED it too far >> I WISH HE HAD HE PUSHED it too far >> I WISH HE HAD HE PUSHED it too far though. It's like just stay at Mach 10. though. It's like just stay at Mach 10. though. It's like just stay at Mach 10. Don't go to 10.1, [laughter] 10.2, 10.3. Don't go to 10.1, [laughter] 10.2, 10.3. Don't go to 10.1, [laughter] 10.2, 10.3. Don't do it, Mav. Don't do it. Don't do it, Mav. Don't do it. Don't do it, Mav. Don't do it. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah, I just, you know, don't >> Yeah. Yeah, I just, you know, don't >> Yeah. Yeah, I just, you know, don't don't break the Mach 10 barrier.

don't break the Mach 10 barrier. don't break the Mach 10 barrier. Um [snorts] but one of the things I was Um [snorts] but one of the things I was Um [snorts] but one of the things I was going to ask the admiral, I didn't want going to ask the admiral, I didn't want going to ask the admiral, I didn't want to do it cuz it would probably put him to do it cuz it would probably put him to do it cuz it would probably put him on the spot, is um on the spot, is um on the spot, is um should the US military, if you look at should the US military, if you look at should the US military, if you look at the the spend, the the spend, the the spend, completely rethink uh the future of um completely rethink uh the future of um completely rethink uh the future of um the Navy, uh naval warfare and naval the Navy, uh naval warfare and naval the Navy, uh naval warfare and naval investments in carrier groups? investments in carrier groups? investments in carrier groups? Because now eventually they'll be Because now eventually they'll be Because now eventually they'll be sitting ducks like you're saying. Um and sitting ducks like you're saying. Um and sitting ducks like you're saying. Um and then some of these hypersonic weapons, then some of these hypersonic weapons, then some of these hypersonic weapons, they're kinetic, so even if you hit they're kinetic, so even if you hit they're kinetic, so even if you hit them, them, them, there's still probability because these there's still probability because these there's still probability because these things are coming at you at hypersonic things are coming at you at hypersonic things are coming at you at hypersonic speeds. The kinetic force create I speeds. The kinetic force create I speeds. The kinetic force create I actually a lot of some of these don't actually a lot of some of these don't actually a lot of some of these don't even have a warhead. They they're even have a warhead. They they're even have a warhead. They they're kinetic weapons, right? They're just kinetic weapons, right? They're just kinetic weapons, right? They're just going to hit you. Yeah. Yeah, like going to hit you. Yeah. Yeah, like going to hit you. Yeah. Yeah, like remember the railguns that they were remember the railguns that they were remember the railguns that they were developing? It it there's there's no developing? It it there's there's no developing? It it there's there's no explosive tip. It it's literally the explosive tip. It it's literally the explosive tip. It it's literally the velocity of the projectile causes the velocity of the projectile causes the velocity of the projectile causes the explosion, kind of like a meteorite, you explosion, kind of like a meteorite, you explosion, kind of like a meteorite, you know, when it comes in.

know, when it comes in. know, when it comes in. It it the velocity is so um high that It it the velocity is so um high that It it the velocity is so um high that when it makes impact, it creates when it makes impact, it creates when it makes impact, it creates uh sort of a an explosion, right? uh sort of a an explosion, right? uh sort of a an explosion, right? Including the yeah. That's right. Navy's Including the yeah. That's right. Navy's Including the yeah. That's right. Navy's been testing railguns as well as lasers, been testing railguns as well as lasers, been testing railguns as well as lasers, high energy, you know. Um it's pretty high energy, you know. Um it's pretty high energy, you know. Um it's pretty interesting stuff, for sure. Lasers suck interesting stuff, for sure. Lasers suck interesting stuff, for sure. Lasers suck because they attenuate and because they attenuate and because they attenuate and >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> if you have crappy weather, >> if you have crappy weather, >> if you have crappy weather, Ouch. Ouch. You can't do anything. And Ouch. Ouch. You can't do anything. And Ouch. Ouch. You can't do anything. And so, you can imagine how policy can be so, you can imagine how policy can be so, you can imagine how policy can be affected. Like right now, when you are affected. Like right now, when you are affected. Like right now, when you are going up against a second or third-tier going up against a second or third-tier going up against a second or third-tier power, Yeah. okay, you're able to have power, Yeah. okay, you're able to have power, Yeah. okay, you're able to have your carriers and just attack like Iran your carriers and just attack like Iran your carriers and just attack like Iran in this case at will and it's in this case at will and it's in this case at will and it's effortless. You can see a lot of people effortless. You can see a lot of people effortless. You can see a lot of people saying, yeah, carriers rock. Look at saying, yeah, carriers rock. Look at saying, yeah, carriers rock. Look at what we've done. We've got all these what we've done. We've got all these what we've done. We've got all these carriers. We're projecting power the way carriers. We're projecting power the way carriers. We're projecting power the way we've always done and it's awesome. But we've always done and it's awesome. But we've always done and it's awesome. But it's a big different game if your it's a big different game if your it's a big different game if your adversary is a tier one adversary like a adversary is a tier one adversary like a adversary is a tier one adversary like a Russia or China, Yeah.

Russia or China, Yeah. Russia or China, Yeah. >> the game changes because they've got a >> the game changes because they've got a >> the game changes because they've got a different level of weaponry, different level of weaponry, different level of weaponry, you know, than a tier two or tier three you know, than a tier two or tier three you know, than a tier two or tier three power would have, right? You know, we power would have, right? You know, we power would have, right? You know, we see a lot of a lot of talk track during see a lot of a lot of talk track during see a lot of a lot of talk track during this war of yeah, we as far as bombers, this war of yeah, we as far as bombers, this war of yeah, we as far as bombers, I know you've all seen the same thing. I know you've all seen the same thing. I know you've all seen the same thing. Yeah, first we came in with the B-2 Yeah, first we came in with the B-2 Yeah, first we came in with the B-2 stealth bombers and then we've just stealth bombers and then we've just stealth bombers and then we've just taken out so much stuff that then can taken out so much stuff that then can taken out so much stuff that then can come a B-1 supersonic bomber and then come a B-1 supersonic bomber and then come a B-1 supersonic bomber and then now we're bringing in B-52s that are 70 now we're bringing in B-52s that are 70 now we're bringing in B-52s that are 70 years old and a lot of people go, well, years old and a lot of people go, well, years old and a lot of people go, well, that's great. that's great. that's great. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. Think about that. Think about that. Think about that. But the reason you can bring in a B-52 But the reason you can bring in a B-52 But the reason you can bring in a B-52 is because all their air defenses have is because all their air defenses have is because all their air defenses have been wiped out and so, they can just fly been wiped out and so, they can just fly been wiped out and so, they can just fly at will. But would a B-52 be able to do at will. But would a B-52 be able to do at will. But would a B-52 be able to do that against China or Russia? No. that against China or Russia? No. that against China or Russia? No. No, they wouldn't. Yeah. No, they wouldn't. Yeah. No, they wouldn't. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, you know, but you hear the other Well, you know, but you hear the other Well, you know, but you hear the other thing that we've learned from thing that we've learned from thing that we've learned from in the war in Ukraine in the war in Ukraine in the war in Ukraine is that what used to be the staple of is that what used to be the staple of is that what used to be the staple of ground warfare, which is the tank and ground warfare, which is the tank and ground warfare, which is the tank and the APC it it are now death traps the APC it it are now death traps the APC it it are now death traps because of these very very cheap drones.

because of these very very cheap drones. because of these very very cheap drones. And so now everyone is nailing each And so now everyone is nailing each And so now everyone is nailing each other with drones and taking out other with drones and taking out other with drones and taking out infantry infantry infantry people with these people with these people with these really low cost drones. So the economics really low cost drones. So the economics really low cost drones. So the economics are changing. And so that was really are changing. And so that was really are changing. And so that was really going to be the basis of my question to going to be the basis of my question to going to be the basis of my question to him because you have the Shaheed drones, him because you have the Shaheed drones, him because you have the Shaheed drones, right? Which are basically cheap cruise right? Which are basically cheap cruise right? Which are basically cheap cruise missiles. missiles. missiles. Right? Right? Right? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, really. Really slow >> Yeah, really. Really slow >> Yeah, really. Really slow cruise missile cuz you can shoot cruise missile cuz you can shoot cruise missile cuz you can shoot >> they say? Like 20 20 grand, 30 grand, >> they say? Like 20 20 grand, 30 grand, >> they say? Like 20 20 grand, 30 grand, whatever? whatever? whatever? >> Yeah, 20 30 grand and then a Tomahawk >> Yeah, 20 30 grand and then a Tomahawk >> Yeah, 20 30 grand and then a Tomahawk cruise missile costs you like 2 million cruise missile costs you like 2 million cruise missile costs you like 2 million bucks, right? bucks, right? bucks, right? I mean, you know I mean, you know I mean, you know >> aren't sustainable. Yeah. [laughter] And >> aren't sustainable. Yeah. [laughter] And >> aren't sustainable. Yeah. [laughter] And then we're like, okay, we just ran out then we're like, okay, we just ran out then we're like, okay, we just ran out of um you know, we hit 10 targets at a of um you know, we hit 10 targets at a of um you know, we hit 10 targets at a cost of 20 million dollars. cost of 20 million dollars. cost of 20 million dollars. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. Or you know, one of the interesting Or you know, one of the interesting Or you know, one of the interesting things was you know, and I I sent you um things was you know, and I I sent you um things was you know, and I I sent you um that article about how the Shaheeds are that article about how the Shaheeds are that article about how the Shaheeds are hitting radar installations, right?

hitting radar installations, right? hitting radar installations, right? >> Mhm. Early warning >> Mhm. Early warning >> Mhm. Early warning um radar installations in some of the um radar installations in some of the um radar installations in some of the friendly uh you know, countries friendly uh you know, countries friendly uh you know, countries in the Gulf. And or or you know, yeah, in the Gulf. And or or you know, yeah, in the Gulf. And or or you know, yeah, the Persian Gulf. the Persian Gulf. the Persian Gulf. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And And And uh they're using you know, like the harm uh they're using you know, like the harm uh they're using you know, like the harm missile, right? The harm missile that's missile, right? The harm missile that's missile, right? The harm missile that's used they're anti-radiation. used they're anti-radiation. used they're anti-radiation. It's anti-radiation missile, right? It's anti-radiation missile, right? It's anti-radiation missile, right? >> I I don't know what the H stands for, >> I I don't know what the H stands for, >> I I don't know what the H stands for, but it's anti-radiation missile, but but it's anti-radiation missile, but but it's anti-radiation missile, but it's it these are missiles that are it's it these are missiles that are it's it these are missiles that are launched at radars. They track in on the launched at radars. They track in on the launched at radars. They track in on the radar uh um radar uh um radar uh um pulse actually that comes out of uh pulse actually that comes out of uh pulse actually that comes out of uh radar station and then they take those radar station and then they take those radar station and then they take those things out. And uh the Shaheed has there things out. And uh the Shaheed has there things out. And uh the Shaheed has there is a is a is a a variety that does that. So it's crazy. a variety that does that. So it's crazy. a variety that does that. So it's crazy. And you know, it only costs 20,000 And you know, it only costs 20,000 And you know, it only costs 20,000 dollars and they take out a 20 million dollars and they take out a 20 million dollars and they take out a 20 million dollar radar site. Do you know what I dollar radar site. Do you know what I dollar radar site. Do you know what I mean by that? mean by that? mean by that? So they're they're flipping the So they're they're flipping the So they're they're flipping the economics of all of this. And so that economics of all of this. And so that economics of all of this. And so that was going to be the the gist of the was going to be the the gist of the was going to be the the gist of the question that I was going to ask him, question that I was going to ask him, question that I was going to ask him, but you know, that was that would have but you know, that was that would have but you know, that was that would have probably been better for like, you know, probably been better for like, you know, probably been better for like, you know, beer.

beer. beer. Offline. Yeah. No, you're right. Offline. Yeah. No, you're right. Offline. Yeah. No, you're right. >> So I'm doing it online, right? >> So I'm doing it online, right? >> So I'm doing it online, right? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Well, you know what? You know, it's >> Well, you know what? You know, it's >> Well, you know what? You know, it's funny Leonard, you know, we've been funny Leonard, you know, we've been funny Leonard, you know, we've been doing this a long time, but I know you doing this a long time, but I know you doing this a long time, but I know you and I have talked about doing a separate and I have talked about doing a separate and I have talked about doing a separate show that's just about that's just about show that's just about that's just about show that's just about that's just about military and defense and what's going on military and defense and what's going on military and defense and what's going on with that, you know. with that, you know. with that, you know. Um Yeah. Um Yeah. Um Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> Long before there were any conflicts >> Long before there were any conflicts >> Long before there were any conflicts just like you know, cuz there's so much just like you know, cuz there's so much just like you know, cuz there's so much to talk about, you know. to talk about, you know. to talk about, you know. That's pretty That's pretty That's pretty >> but you know, it might be that and you >> but you know, it might be that and you >> but you know, it might be that and you know, I know I I I totally know where know, I know I I I totally know where know, I know I I I totally know where you're coming from, Bill. you're coming from, Bill. you're coming from, Bill. Um Um Um but there may be benefit because there's but there may be benefit because there's but there may be benefit because there's a certain level of a certain level of a certain level of uh leadership where uh leadership where uh leadership where they they're drinking the AI Kool-Aid they they're drinking the AI Kool-Aid they they're drinking the AI Kool-Aid and probably making some really bad and probably making some really bad and probably making some really bad decisions on how to use AI decisions on how to use AI decisions on how to use AI uh to win, right? And there's lessons uh to win, right? And there's lessons uh to win, right? And there's lessons that are apparent that are apparent that are apparent at the edge. And some of the And you at the edge. And some of the And you at the edge. And some of the And you know, Bill, just so that you know, the know, Bill, just so that you know, the know, Bill, just so that you know, the admiral was not hyping this stuff up admiral was not hyping this stuff up admiral was not hyping this stuff up crazy.

crazy. crazy. Uh I can't hear you, dude. I I don't Uh I can't hear you, dude. I I don't Uh I can't hear you, dude. I I don't think I don't think he was at all. think I don't think he was at all. think I don't think he was at all. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, actually some >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, actually some >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, actually some of the stuff he was sharing like of the stuff he was sharing like of the stuff he was sharing like freaking folks at GTC should listen to. freaking folks at GTC should listen to. freaking folks at GTC should listen to. You know, I mean, this is like look, You know, I mean, this is like look, You know, I mean, this is like look, the stuff the stuff the stuff it it is not it it cannot be used in it it is not it it cannot be used in it it is not it it cannot be used in mission critical applications the way mission critical applications the way mission critical applications the way that you think. No, you're not going to that you think. No, you're not going to that you think. No, you're not going to be running freaking GPUs be running freaking GPUs be running freaking GPUs uh at the edge of the you know, military uh at the edge of the you know, military uh at the edge of the you know, military uh theater. uh theater. uh theater. You're going to you're going to use it You're going to you're going to use it You're going to you're going to use it in a very very in a very very in a very very precision way precision way precision way that gives you advantage and also that gives you advantage and also that gives you advantage and also balances that with safety cuz you know, balances that with safety cuz you know, balances that with safety cuz you know, the whole friendly fire the whole friendly fire the whole friendly fire risk I mean, you can't have these things risk I mean, you can't have these things risk I mean, you can't have these things going around let's say that it's all going around let's say that it's all going around let's say that it's all swarm integrated with federated learning swarm integrated with federated learning swarm integrated with federated learning and all this fancy [ __ ] going and then and all this fancy [ __ ] going and then and all this fancy [ __ ] going and then killing all your your troops cuz there's killing all your your troops cuz there's killing all your your troops cuz there's no discernment, you know? no discernment, you know? no discernment, you know? I mean, you know, I mean, you know, I mean, you know, you know, friendly fire stuff is can be you know, friendly fire stuff is can be you know, friendly fire stuff is can be you know, you know, you know, can be a huge catastrophic risk if can be a huge catastrophic risk if can be a huge catastrophic risk if you're using AI improperly in the field.

you're using AI improperly in the field. you're using AI improperly in the field. >> friendly friendly fire is jumbo shrimp. >> friendly friendly fire is jumbo shrimp. >> friendly friendly fire is jumbo shrimp. It's a damn oxymoron. It's a damn oxymoron. It's a damn oxymoron. NOTHING FRIENDLY ABOUT IT. NOTHING FRIENDLY ABOUT IT. NOTHING FRIENDLY ABOUT IT. >> [laughter] >> OH MY GOD. >> OH MY GOD. YEAH, THEY SHOULD COME UP WITH THE YEAH, THEY SHOULD COME UP WITH THE YEAH, THEY SHOULD COME UP WITH THE new term for it like we killed our own new term for it like we killed our own new term for it like we killed our own [ __ ] people. [ __ ] people. [ __ ] people. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, let's let's call it what it is. We >> Yeah, let's let's call it what it is. We >> Yeah, let's let's call it what it is. We you know, they want to put a candy you know, they want to put a candy you know, they want to put a candy wrapper around it and wrapper around it and wrapper around it and you know, it it's not it's not that. It you know, it it's not it's not that. It you know, it it's not it's not that. It it is it is not that. Um friendly fire it is it is not that. Um friendly fire it is it is not that. Um friendly fire is I mean, talk to someone that has lost is I mean, talk to someone that has lost is I mean, talk to someone that has lost someone because of that. Yeah. You know someone because of that. Yeah. You know someone because of that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, what I'm saying? I mean, what I'm saying? I mean, it it it's it's it's again, it's one of it it it's it's it's again, it's one of it it it's it's it's again, it's one of those things where those things where those things where like I like I said, you know, it's jumbo like I like I said, you know, it's jumbo like I like I said, you know, it's jumbo shrimp. It's an oxymoron. shrimp. It's an oxymoron. shrimp. It's an oxymoron. >> Yeah. Nothing friendly about It really >> Yeah. Nothing friendly about It really >> Yeah. Nothing friendly about It really is. Killed our own [ __ ] people is is. Killed our own [ __ ] people is is. Killed our own [ __ ] people is really what it should be. That that really what it should be. That that really what it should be. That that should be like the acronym. should be like the acronym. should be like the acronym. We had a you know, We had a you know, We had a you know, uh weak op uh weak op uh weak op incident.

incident. incident. You know, and then you know, that I You know, and then you know, that I You know, and then you know, that I mean, it's it's ridiculous, right? mean, it's it's ridiculous, right? mean, it's it's ridiculous, right? But it could be killed out. But it could be killed out. But it could be killed out. >> There should never be an instance where >> There should never be an instance where >> There should never be an instance where we're turning around saying, you know, we're turning around saying, you know, we're turning around saying, you know, our hearts go out to the fan the friends our hearts go out to the fan the friends our hearts go out to the fan the friends and family and family and family because of because of because of friendly fire. friendly fire. friendly fire. >> Let I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That >> Let I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That >> Let I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That just lights me up right there. just lights me up right there. just lights me up right there. Especially especially being, you know, Especially especially being, you know, Especially especially being, you know, ex-Navy, I'm I'm like, nah, I'm Yeah, ex-Navy, I'm I'm like, nah, I'm Yeah, ex-Navy, I'm I'm like, nah, I'm Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know about that. yeah, yeah. I didn't know about that. yeah, yeah. I didn't know about that. I know. They always hear that, you know, I know. They always hear that, you know, I know. They always hear that, you know, my daughters, you know, she went to my daughters, you know, she went to my daughters, you know, she went to Arizona State and so they she got the Arizona State and so they she got the Arizona State and so they she got the whole Pat Tillman thing. Uh there's a whole Pat Tillman thing. Uh there's a whole Pat Tillman thing. Uh there's a big Pat Tillman statue big Pat Tillman statue big Pat Tillman statue and they come running out. And and they come running out. And and they come running out. And >> Oh, yeah. You know, that was that sad >> Oh, yeah. You know, that was that sad >> Oh, yeah. You know, that was that sad story, you know, he he's like, I'm story, you know, he he's like, I'm story, you know, he he's like, I'm leaving the NFL to go help my brothers leaving the NFL to go help my brothers leaving the NFL to go help my brothers and sisters in this war on terror. And and sisters in this war on terror. And and sisters in this war on terror. And he gets killed by a jumbo shrimp he gets killed by a jumbo shrimp he gets killed by a jumbo shrimp friendly fire, you know. friendly fire, you know. friendly fire, you know. >> You know what I'm saying? That >> You know what I'm saying? That >> You know what I'm saying? That >> Yeah, that's awful. It it should have it >> Yeah, that's awful. It it should have it >> Yeah, that's awful. It it should have it should have never happened. And see, for should have never happened. And see, for should have never happened. And see, for those reasons, that that's why you got those reasons, that that's why you got those reasons, that that's why you got comments like this.

comments like this. comments like this. >> [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Oh my god. You know, it's >> Oh my god. You know, it's >> Oh my god. You know, it's yeah, um yeah, um yeah, um Yeah. The responsibility thing, the Yeah. The responsibility thing, the Yeah. The responsibility thing, the accountability. Again, I mean, it's like accountability. Again, I mean, it's like accountability. Again, I mean, it's like weird. Whenever we talk, we never know weird. Whenever we talk, we never know weird. Whenever we talk, we never know what the hell we're really going to be what the hell we're really going to be what the hell we're really going to be talking about any episode, but we end up talking about any episode, but we end up talking about any episode, but we end up landing on Right. pretty good. landing on Right. pretty good. landing on Right. pretty good. >> you know, I mean, this is such a serious >> you know, I mean, this is such a serious >> you know, I mean, this is such a serious discussion. If there is any technology discussion. If there is any technology discussion. If there is any technology out there that's going to screw up and out there that's going to screw up and out there that's going to screw up and do friendly fire, it's AI today. And you do friendly fire, it's AI today. And you do friendly fire, it's AI today. And you think of all the screw ups that happened think of all the screw ups that happened think of all the screw ups that happened with ChatGPT and Claude and Gemini where with ChatGPT and Claude and Gemini where with ChatGPT and Claude and Gemini where it goes, oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Da da da it goes, oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Da da da it goes, oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Da da da da. You know, on your stupid thing that da. You know, on your stupid thing that da. You know, on your stupid thing that you're doing on your computer. Now take you're doing on your computer. Now take you're doing on your computer. Now take that to the battlefield. Oh, my bad. Oh, that to the battlefield. Oh, my bad. Oh, that to the battlefield. Oh, my bad. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. And then the yeah. I didn't know that. And then the yeah. I didn't know that. And then the [ __ ] thing starts arguing with you. [ __ ] thing starts arguing with you. [ __ ] thing starts arguing with you. That's the part that really That's the part that really >> [laughter] >> You know, I was like, well, you know, >> You know, I was like, well, you know, >> You know, I was like, well, you know, you didn't tell me. So blah blah blah. I you didn't tell me. So blah blah blah. I you didn't tell me. So blah blah blah. I was like, what the [ __ ] was like, what the [ __ ] was like, what the [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, I I I I I I well, I mean, everyone everyone saw what well, I mean, everyone everyone saw what well, I mean, everyone everyone saw what what what happened what what happened what what happened What was that? That was in the Bay Area What was that? That was in the Bay Area What was that? That was in the Bay Area where they had the the robot in the where they had the the robot in the where they had the the robot in the restaurant? Yeah, yeah. The freaking hot restaurant? Yeah, yeah. The freaking hot restaurant? Yeah, yeah. The freaking hot pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's and it's pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's and it's pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's and it's hot pot coming hot pot coming hot pot coming it's it's doing this like they're like, it's it's doing this like they're like, it's it's doing this like they're like, oh, it's dancing. I'm like, uh-huh.

oh, it's dancing. I'm like, uh-huh. oh, it's dancing. I'm like, uh-huh. Yeah. You know, it'll slap you upside Yeah. You know, it'll slap you upside Yeah. You know, it'll slap you upside the head. They don't have muscle. It is the head. They don't have muscle. It is the head. They don't have muscle. It is nothing but pistons and I mean, it it nothing but pistons and I mean, it it nothing but pistons and I mean, it it that crap will hurt. Oh, yeah. that crap will hurt. Oh, yeah. that crap will hurt. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude, I got to post a video. I Yeah. Oh, dude, I got to post a video. I Yeah. Oh, dude, I got to post a video. I mentioned earlier the kung fu gigantic mentioned earlier the kung fu gigantic mentioned earlier the kung fu gigantic kung fu robot, right? That on the GTC kung fu robot, right? That on the GTC kung fu robot, right? That on the GTC startup floor, right? I mean, this thing startup floor, right? I mean, this thing startup floor, right? I mean, this thing was doing dangerous stuff, man. I mean, was doing dangerous stuff, man. I mean, was doing dangerous stuff, man. I mean, it was doing it I I don't know why they it was doing it I I don't know why they it was doing it I I don't know why they programmed it with certain violent moves programmed it with certain violent moves programmed it with certain violent moves like combat moves. [music] like combat moves. [music] like combat moves. [music] Well, I mean, look. One of these and Well, I mean, look. One of these and Well, I mean, look. One of these and it's remote controlled. It's not like it's remote controlled. It's not like it's remote controlled. It's not like the this thing actually has any um you the this thing actually has any um you the this thing actually has any um you know, know, know, sense of boundary. It's a guy with a sense of boundary. It's a guy with a sense of boundary. It's a guy with a joystick. I mean, I have video of it. joystick. I mean, I have video of it. joystick. I mean, I have video of it. This guy operating this thing. And then This guy operating this thing. And then This guy operating this thing. And then they have like a couple of I I guess, they have like a couple of I I guess, they have like a couple of I I guess, you know, it's like Tekken, you know, you know, it's like Tekken, you know, you know, it's like Tekken, you know, you have a couple of moves that you do you have a couple of moves that you do you have a couple of moves that you do with the joystick, right? And then it with the joystick, right? And then it with the joystick, right? And then it executes, you know, the flying flying, executes, you know, the flying flying, executes, you know, the flying flying, you know, deadly goose technique kick or you know, deadly goose technique kick or you know, deadly goose technique kick or something. Something like that, you know something. Something like that, you know something. Something like that, you know what I'm saying?

what I'm saying? what I'm saying? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And then you know, it's going to take >> And then you know, it's going to take >> And then you know, it's going to take someone out. I'm like think And then you someone out. I'm like think And then you someone out. I'm like think And then you know, there are some dumbass people just know, there are some dumbass people just know, there are some dumbass people just like cruising by with their cameras like cruising by with their cameras like cruising by with their cameras going like this getting within slap going like this getting within slap going like this getting within slap distance of this thing. And so I was distance of this thing. And so I was distance of this thing. And so I was sitting there with the Anaconda guys sitting there with the Anaconda guys sitting there with the Anaconda guys going, going, going, Has anyone got Yeah, has anyone gotten Has anyone got Yeah, has anyone gotten Has anyone got Yeah, has anyone gotten slapped yet or slapped yet or slapped yet or I mean, you know, and I'm looking at the I mean, you know, and I'm looking at the I mean, you know, and I'm looking at the people going, man, you guys are dumbass people going, man, you guys are dumbass people going, man, you guys are dumbass people. Yeah, we're not talking Will people. Yeah, we're not talking Will people. Yeah, we're not talking Will Smith slap. Oh, yeah. Smith slap. Oh, yeah. Smith slap. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. The robot slap. Oh, no. The robot slap. Oh, no. The robot slap. Breaks your face off. Yeah. Breaks your face off. Yeah. Breaks your face off. Yeah. I mean, we we are talking about a Willie I mean, we we are talking about a Willie I mean, we we are talking about a Willie Dynamite slap. Yeah, Dynamite slap. Yeah, Dynamite slap. Yeah, and then you have all these people and then you have all these people and then you have all these people literally within 6 ft of this thing. literally within 6 ft of this thing. literally within 6 ft of this thing. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> It's like 7 ft tall, you know, it's like >> It's like 7 ft tall, you know, it's like >> It's like 7 ft tall, you know, it's like >> Did you see this this morning on >> Did you see this this morning on >> Did you see this this morning on Twitter? It's a Uni- UniTree. It's a Twitter? It's a Uni- UniTree. It's a Twitter? It's a Uni- UniTree. It's a open source robots in China. All right, open source robots in China. All right, open source robots in China. All right, they're running with kids in New York they're running with kids in New York they're running with kids in New York City today. And it kicked down somebody City today. And it kicked down somebody City today. And it kicked down somebody in the nuts, no? Oh god.

in the nuts, no? Oh god. in the nuts, no? Oh god. You got to see it. You got to see it. You got to see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, your kid can just get Oh yeah. I mean, your kid can just get Oh yeah. I mean, your kid can just get taken out. That's okay. taken out. That's okay. taken out. That's okay. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. Yeah, by that short little robot. Yeah. No, I mean, we get too enamored Yeah. No, I mean, we get too enamored with stuff that's like, "Oh, that's with stuff that's like, "Oh, that's with stuff that's like, "Oh, that's funny. Oh, that's cute." funny. Oh, that's cute." funny. Oh, that's cute." >> Oh, look at that. They were saying it's >> Oh, look at that. They were saying it's >> Oh, look at that. They were saying it's all fun It's all fun until somebody gets all fun It's all fun until somebody gets all fun It's all fun until somebody gets a an eye poked out. Yeah. Wait until one a an eye poked out. Yeah. Wait until one a an eye poked out. Yeah. Wait until one of those robots run the kids over the of those robots run the kids over the of those robots run the kids over the rail railing over there and then they rail railing over there and then they rail railing over there and then they fall into [laughter] the Hudson River. fall into [laughter] the Hudson River. fall into [laughter] the Hudson River. Right. But you know what? This is how Right. But you know what? This is how Right. But you know what? This is how every movie starts. It's like the every movie starts. It's like the every movie starts. It's like the beginning, "Oh, it's friendly and it's beginning, "Oh, it's friendly and it's beginning, "Oh, it's friendly and it's all for the people." This thing is all for the people." This thing is all for the people." This thing is actually doing this to just train itself actually doing this to just train itself actually doing this to just train itself to get better at running and then, you to get better at running and then, you to get better at running and then, you know, a year from now it's like taking know, a year from now it's like taking know, a year from now it's like taking everybody out. Yeah, yeah. Oh gosh, you everybody out. Yeah, yeah. Oh gosh, you everybody out. Yeah, yeah. Oh gosh, you know, it all starts out so hopeful, best know, it all starts out so hopeful, best know, it all starts out so hopeful, best intentions, all that BS. Yeah. intentions, all that BS. Yeah. intentions, all that BS. Yeah. >> And then it kills everybody. So, yeah.

>> And then it kills everybody. So, yeah. >> And then it kills everybody. So, yeah. Oh Oh Oh god. god. god. Oh. Oh. Oh. I don't know. That's why you have to I don't know. That's why you have to I don't know. That's why you have to have your bunker, like all the people have your bunker, like all the people have your bunker, like all the people who are behind building all this stuff. who are behind building all this stuff. who are behind building all this stuff. They've all got their bunkers and They've all got their bunkers and They've all got their bunkers and surrounded by 50 cows and stuff like surrounded by 50 cows and stuff like surrounded by 50 cows and stuff like that, you know? that, you know? that, you know? Just in case. Just in case. Just in case. You know, or what did we have to use You know, or what did we have to use You know, or what did we have to use against the Transformers? Saber rounds against the Transformers? Saber rounds against the Transformers? Saber rounds or something like that, I think. I don't or something like that, I think. I don't or something like that, I think. I don't know what that was. Saber rounds? know what that was. Saber rounds? know what that was. Saber rounds? That's what they called them. It's some That's what they called them. It's some That's what they called them. It's some invented thing. It's probably a bigger invented thing. It's probably a bigger invented thing. It's probably a bigger round than a 50 cal. I don't know. round than a 50 cal. I don't know. round than a 50 cal. I don't know. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Maybe they were using rail guns. That's >> Maybe they were using rail guns. That's >> Maybe they were using rail guns. That's probably what you need to take these probably what you need to take these probably what you need to take these things down, you know? I don't believe a things down, you know? I don't believe a things down, you know? I don't believe a 50 cal. I don't know. If it's armored, 50 cal. I don't know. If it's armored, 50 cal. I don't know. If it's armored, how do you take it down? how do you take it down? how do you take it down? I know. You might have to do like I know. You might have to do like I know. You might have to do like like on the navy ships, you know, they like on the navy ships, you know, they like on the navy ships, you know, they have to deal with the mini gun with the have to deal with the mini gun with the have to deal with the mini gun with the depleted uranium shells. depleted uranium shells. depleted uranium shells. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, this is the last line of You know, this is the last line of You know, this is the last line of defense against those incoming defense against those incoming defense against those incoming hypersonic missiles. And to your point, hypersonic missiles. And to your point, hypersonic missiles. And to your point, even a regular missile, it's the last even a regular missile, it's the last even a regular missile, it's the last line of defense cuz everything else line of defense cuz everything else line of defense cuz everything else failed. It may still hit the missile and failed. It may still hit the missile and failed. It may still hit the missile and stop it from hitting the ship, but the stop it from hitting the ship, but the stop it from hitting the ship, but the explosion is going to happen right there explosion is going to happen right there explosion is going to happen right there next to the ship.

next to the ship. next to the ship. >> Yeah. Any human that's on the deck is >> Yeah. Any human that's on the deck is >> Yeah. Any human that's on the deck is dead, instantly dead. Yeah. Yeah. And dead, instantly dead. Yeah. Yeah. And dead, instantly dead. Yeah. Yeah. And then not only that, I mean, think about then not only that, I mean, think about then not only that, I mean, think about it. It's like what's that movie with it. It's like what's that movie with it. It's like what's that movie with Bruce Willis or whatever? It's one of Bruce Willis or whatever? It's one of Bruce Willis or whatever? It's one of those like, you know, they blow up the those like, you know, they blow up the those like, you know, they blow up the they blow up the they blow up the they blow up the gigantic asteroid, but then all the gigantic asteroid, but then all the gigantic asteroid, but then all the it creates a shotgun effect. Do you know it creates a shotgun effect. Do you know it creates a shotgun effect. Do you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, what I'm saying? Because, you know, what I'm saying? Because, you know, anything that's like anything that's like anything that's like coming at you at like Mach 7 coming at you at like Mach 7 coming at you at like Mach 7 that kinetic energy is linear. It's that kinetic energy is linear. It's that kinetic energy is linear. It's going in a linear direction and you blow going in a linear direction and you blow going in a linear direction and you blow it up. it up. it up. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's not going to go sideways. It's >> That's not going to go sideways. It's >> That's not going to go sideways. It's going to going to going to it's going to pepper through the ship it's going to pepper through the ship it's going to pepper through the ship and maybe even cause more actually and maybe even cause more actually and maybe even cause more actually increase its chance of probably hitting increase its chance of probably hitting increase its chance of probably hitting the ship because you don't need the the ship because you don't need the the ship because you don't need the whole thing to hit the ship to cause whole thing to hit the ship to cause whole thing to hit the ship to cause damage. damage. damage. >> Yeah. Right? Like catastrophic damage. I >> Yeah. Right? Like catastrophic damage. I >> Yeah. Right? Like catastrophic damage. I mean, mean, mean, because the stuff will go right through because the stuff will go right through because the stuff will go right through at that speed. It'll just go right at that speed. It'll just go right at that speed. It'll just go right through and then hit systems across the through and then hit systems across the through and then hit systems across the the ship. Yeah. [snorts] You know, did the ship. Yeah. [snorts] You know, did the ship. Yeah. [snorts] You know, did any of you guys see the GI Joe movies?

any of you guys see the GI Joe movies? any of you guys see the GI Joe movies? Of course. Of course. Of course. >> Yes, and I forgot all of them. The only >> Yes, and I forgot all of them. The only >> Yes, and I forgot all of them. The only thing I remember thing I remember thing I remember is Rain Dude, Snake whatever. Yeah. is Rain Dude, Snake whatever. Yeah. is Rain Dude, Snake whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Snake Eyes or whatever. Yeah, it's like Snake Eyes or whatever. Yeah, it's like Snake Eyes or whatever. Yeah. Snake Eyes. Yeah. Snake Eyes. Yeah. Snake Eyes. Yeah. But there was the like the evil Yeah. But there was the like the evil Yeah. But there was the like the evil villain. I don't know if it was in the villain. I don't know if it was in the villain. I don't know if it was in the first one or the second one, but they first one or the second one, but they first one or the second one, but they had orbiting deals and they were not had orbiting deals and they were not had orbiting deals and they were not launching nuclear weapons. They were launching nuclear weapons. They were launching nuclear weapons. They were launching these tungsten rods. And it's launching these tungsten rods. And it's launching these tungsten rods. And it's to your point. It was they shot a to your point. It was they shot a to your point. It was they shot a tungsten rod at London and just took out tungsten rod at London and just took out tungsten rod at London and just took out the whole city. No radiation, no the whole city. No radiation, no the whole city. No radiation, no anything. Just anything. Just anything. Just it was the kinetic impact. Kinetic it was the kinetic impact. Kinetic it was the kinetic impact. Kinetic impact. impact. impact. >> Yeah, was enough to do the damage >> Yeah, was enough to do the damage >> Yeah, was enough to do the damage without I mean, you know, you got it you without I mean, you know, you got it you without I mean, you know, you got it you got to believe that they're going to got to believe that they're going to got to believe that they're going to have not only can does the kinetic have not only can does the kinetic have not only can does the kinetic impact has a have an an impact, which is impact has a have an an impact, which is impact has a have an an impact, which is catastrophic, but throw some EMF in catastrophic, but throw some EMF in catastrophic, but throw some EMF in there. there. there. Because we're not just going to take out Because we're not just going to take out Because we're not just going to take out the people. We're going to take out your the people. We're going to take out your the people. We're going to take out your systems. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. systems. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. systems. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's such a good point. You You know, that's such a good point. You You know, that's such a good point. You know, the electromagnetic spectrum is know, the electromagnetic spectrum is know, the electromagnetic spectrum is such a fragile thing. You take it all such a fragile thing. You take it all such a fragile thing. You take it all for granted. We use all these different for granted. We use all these different for granted. We use all these different frequencies and we build solutions frequencies and we build solutions frequencies and we build solutions [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] and we just assume it's all going to and we just assume it's all going to and we just assume it's all going to work. But as soon as war breaks out, we work. But as soon as war breaks out, we work. But as soon as war breaks out, we are jamming all those frequencies and are jamming all those frequencies and are jamming all those frequencies and none of your stuff's going to work. And none of your stuff's going to work. And none of your stuff's going to work. And as we probably talked on the show before as we probably talked on the show before as we probably talked on the show before that's why the Ukrainians have wires that's why the Ukrainians have wires that's why the Ukrainians have wires connected to their drones because the connected to their drones because the connected to their drones because the wi- wireless doesn't work anymore wi- wireless doesn't work anymore wi- wireless doesn't work anymore because the Russians are jamming that because the Russians are jamming that because the Russians are jamming that frequency. So, they have spools of frequency. So, they have spools of frequency. So, they have spools of [clears throat] wires to do it cuz

[clears throat] wires to do it cuz [clears throat] wires to do it cuz that's the only way to make it work, that's the only way to make it work, that's the only way to make it work, wired over wireless. I think we're wired over wireless. I think we're wired over wireless. I think we're already turning we're turning IoT coffee already turning we're turning IoT coffee already turning we're turning IoT coffee talk into a military podcast. talk into a military podcast. talk into a military podcast. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You know, no, but you know, your whole >> You know, no, but you know, your whole >> You know, no, but you know, your whole mention of EM mention of EM mention of EM EMF EMF EMF EMP EMP EMP E Yeah, they have directed it. There's E Yeah, they have directed it. There's E Yeah, they have directed it. There's companies that are developing have companies that are developing have companies that are developing have developed directed EMP developed directed EMP developed directed EMP defense. I don't know if you want to defense. I don't know if you want to defense. I don't know if you want to call them weapons because they do take call them weapons because they do take call them weapons because they do take out their out their out their they're designed to take out drones. The they're designed to take out drones. The they're designed to take out drones. The whole purpose of them is to take out whole purpose of them is to take out whole purpose of them is to take out drones, right? So, um it's like a direct drones, right? So, um it's like a direct drones, right? So, um it's like a direct I don't know how the hell they do it, I don't know how the hell they do it, I don't know how the hell they do it, but but but Remember those those guys in Ocean's 11 Remember those those guys in Ocean's 11 Remember those those guys in Ocean's 11 >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> had electromagnetic pulse machine that >> had electromagnetic pulse machine that >> had electromagnetic pulse machine that they pointed at the casino to have the they pointed at the casino to have the they pointed at the casino to have the lights go out? Oh yeah. When they when lights go out? Oh yeah. When they when lights go out? Oh yeah. When they when they robbed the safe Yeah. at the they robbed the safe Yeah. at the they robbed the safe Yeah. at the bottom. So, you know, you can just you bottom. So, you know, you can just you bottom. So, you know, you can just you know, you can just get those on eBay, I know, you can just get those on eBay, I know, you can just get those on eBay, I THINK. YEAH.

THINK. YEAH. THINK. YEAH. >> [laughter] >> YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE FREAKING >> YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE FREAKING FLASHLIGHTS, you know, the military FLASHLIGHTS, you know, the military FLASHLIGHTS, you know, the military grade flashlights. grade flashlights. grade flashlights. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. Just like in a pie. Oh my god. And then Just like in a pie. Oh my god. And then Just like in a pie. Oh my god. And then the the the the the the the night vision goggles that are the night vision goggles that are the night vision goggles that are military grade. Now you can buy them for military grade. Now you can buy them for military grade. Now you can buy them for like 20 bucks on on Amazon. like 20 bucks on on Amazon. like 20 bucks on on Amazon. >> Absolutely. Or or do you remember in >> Absolutely. Or or do you remember in >> Absolutely. Or or do you remember in Napoleon Dynamite, you know, when he's Napoleon Dynamite, you know, when he's Napoleon Dynamite, you know, when he's like, "Yeah, I was able to buy a time like, "Yeah, I was able to buy a time like, "Yeah, I was able to buy a time machine ON THE INTERNET." machine ON THE INTERNET." machine ON THE INTERNET." >> [laughter] >> IT'S ALL AVAILABLE. YEAH, YEAH. >> IT'S ALL AVAILABLE. YEAH, YEAH. >> AVAILABLE. YEAH. SO, I mean, a lot of >> AVAILABLE. YEAH. SO, I mean, a lot of >> AVAILABLE. YEAH. SO, I mean, a lot of the So the So the So a lot of the disruption that happens a lot of the disruption that happens a lot of the disruption that happens is typically not just all the digital AI is typically not just all the digital AI is typically not just all the digital AI stuff. There's structural things. It's stuff. There's structural things. It's stuff. There's structural things. It's It's just that um It's just that um It's just that um you know, if we go back to AI you know, if we go back to AI you know, if we go back to AI uh uh uh you know, it's you know, it's you know, it's it's it enables maybe certain things it's it enables maybe certain things it's it enables maybe certain things that force you to rethink how an that force you to rethink how an that force you to rethink how an industry and if you call warfare an industry and if you call warfare an industry and if you call warfare an industry, which it you can argue it is industry, which it you can argue it is industry, which it you can argue it is uh it it it it'll force you to rethink uh it it it it'll force you to rethink uh it it it it'll force you to rethink that to a certain degree, but um that to a certain degree, but um that to a certain degree, but um I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Um it's complex, but it's also Um it's complex, but it's also Um it's complex, but it's also you know, what you think is revolution you know, what you think is revolution you know, what you think is revolution is not what you truly think. You know, is not what you truly think. You know, is not what you truly think. You know, going back to your comments about um the going back to your comments about um the going back to your comments about um the friendly fire, the you know, like friendly fire, the you know, like friendly fire, the you know, like uh uh uh if you use AI and it's if you use AI and it's if you use AI and it's probabilistically killing off, you know, probabilistically killing off, you know, probabilistically killing off, you know, yeah, probably like 30% yeah, probably like 30% yeah, probably like 30% of your own people because it's making of your own people because it's making of your own people because it's making bad decisions constantly. bad decisions constantly. bad decisions constantly. Um Um Um you're going to be I don't know. How are you're going to be I don't know. How are you're going to be I don't know. How are you going to win? And so, you know, you going to win? And so, you know, you going to win? And so, you know, going back to this idea of using AI to going back to this idea of using AI to going back to this idea of using AI to win. To your to your point, Rob, this is win. To your to your point, Rob, this is win. To your to your point, Rob, this is so important. so important. so important. I I I organizations need to think about organizations need to think about organizations need to think about whether or not they're using AI to lose. whether or not they're using AI to lose. whether or not they're using AI to lose. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Right? Because you know what I've heard >> Right? Because you know what I've heard >> Right? Because you know what I've heard when you look at these reasoning models when you look at these reasoning models when you look at these reasoning models you apply these reasoning models in the you apply these reasoning models in the you apply these reasoning models in the field and this is coming from field and this is coming from field and this is coming from practitioners. The hallucination practitioners. The hallucination practitioners. The hallucination uh the the reliability rate actually is uh the the reliability rate actually is uh the the reliability rate actually is not 90% like they're talking about, not 90% like they're talking about, not 90% like they're talking about, which [ __ ] sucks. 90% is terrible.

which [ __ ] sucks. 90% is terrible. which [ __ ] sucks. 90% is terrible. Yeah. It's actually about 50%. Yeah. It's actually about 50%. Yeah. It's actually about 50%. Mhm. In practice. Mhm. In practice. Mhm. In practice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And think about >> And think about >> And think about you using this for logistics, blah blah you using this for logistics, blah blah you using this for logistics, blah blah blah, all this stuff. It's blah, all this stuff. It's blah, all this stuff. It's hallucinating. These These bad decisions hallucinating. These These bad decisions hallucinating. These These bad decisions are compounding through your whole are compounding through your whole are compounding through your whole organization. What's going to happen? organization. What's going to happen? organization. What's going to happen? Yeah. In the battlefield, Yeah. In the battlefield, Yeah. In the battlefield, you're going to have a [ __ ] ton of, you you're going to have a [ __ ] ton of, you you're going to have a [ __ ] ton of, you know, we killed our own know, we killed our own know, we killed our own freaking people incidents. freaking people incidents. freaking people incidents. Yeah. Right. And so, while that seems Yeah. Right. And so, while that seems Yeah. Right. And so, while that seems extreme extreme extreme decision makers at normal companies decision makers at normal companies decision makers at normal companies need to look at their own business with need to look at their own business with need to look at their own business with this in the through the lens of well, this in the through the lens of well, this in the through the lens of well, how would that work for the military? how would that work for the military? how would that work for the military? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And so, is that what I want to do at my >> And so, is that what I want to do at my >> And so, is that what I want to do at my company? company? company? Yeah. Also, I just want to say something Yeah. Also, I just want to say something Yeah. Also, I just want to say something right now about this reasoning and right now about this reasoning and right now about this reasoning and reasoning models. reasoning models. reasoning models. They are not reasoning. A reasoning They are not reasoning. A reasoning They are not reasoning. A reasoning model means it does the one-shot answer model means it does the one-shot answer model means it does the one-shot answer like it always did and then it goes back like it always did and then it goes back like it always did and then it goes back and does like three or four more and and does like three or four more and and does like three or four more and then it looks at all of them and of all then it looks at all of them and of all then it looks at all of them and of all the what choices it made, it figures, the what choices it made, it figures, the what choices it made, it figures, you know, it goes, "Oh, this is the you know, it goes, "Oh, this is the you know, it goes, "Oh, this is the probabilistically probabilistically probabilistically the most likely right answer of my five the most likely right answer of my five the most likely right answer of my five answers that I thought were right."

answers that I thought were right." answers that I thought were right." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's no reasoning, there's no So, there's no reasoning, there's no So, there's no reasoning, there's no conscious whatever. It's just doing the conscious whatever. It's just doing the conscious whatever. It's just doing the same thing like five or six times and same thing like five or six times and same thing like five or six times and then going, "Uh, that's probably the then going, "Uh, that's probably the then going, "Uh, that's probably the best one." best one." best one." Um but, you know, Dario and Sam and Um but, you know, Dario and Sam and Um but, you know, Dario and Sam and everybody want you to go, "Oh, we've got everybody want you to go, "Oh, we've got everybody want you to go, "Oh, we've got reasoning and we're going, you know, reasoning and we're going, you know, reasoning and we're going, you know, it's like, no, it's not it's like, no, it's not it's like, no, it's not >> Oh, Jensen, too. Include Jensen. >> Oh, Jensen, too. Include Jensen. >> Oh, Jensen, too. Include Jensen. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He's the guy who's probably talking >> He's the guy who's probably talking >> He's the guy who's probably talking hyping things ahead of even Dario and um hyping things ahead of even Dario and um hyping things ahead of even Dario and um Sam. Sam. Sam. >> Yeah. You know, I mean, to be honest I >> Yeah. You know, I mean, to be honest I >> Yeah. You know, I mean, to be honest I don't do this very often to give Sam don't do this very often to give Sam don't do this very often to give Sam Altman credit. He's he's has said Altman credit. He's he's has said Altman credit. He's he's has said publicly, you know, this stuff is not publicly, you know, this stuff is not publicly, you know, this stuff is not ready. This is experimental. ready. This is experimental. ready. This is experimental. I mean, probably his only I mean, probably his only I mean, probably his only you know, I don't know if you want to you know, I don't know if you want to you know, I don't know if you want to call it call it call it Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh irresponsible actually, he does does Uh irresponsible actually, he does does Uh irresponsible actually, he does does a lot of stuff irresponsible in my book. a lot of stuff irresponsible in my book. a lot of stuff irresponsible in my book. But to say that here's a very powerful But to say that here's a very powerful But to say that here's a very powerful technology, experiment with it and screw technology, experiment with it and screw technology, experiment with it and screw around with it without and then find out around with it without and then find out around with it without and then find out how damaging it could be to you. Yeah.

how damaging it could be to you. Yeah. how damaging it could be to you. Yeah. You know Yeah. You know Yeah. You know Yeah. that's probably the thing that's jacked that's probably the thing that's jacked that's probably the thing that's jacked up about him, the Silicon Valley, you up about him, the Silicon Valley, you up about him, the Silicon Valley, you know, break things on the way mentality. know, break things on the way mentality. know, break things on the way mentality. But he he's told people this stuff is But he he's told people this stuff is But he he's told people this stuff is a freaking Frankenstein experiment. a freaking Frankenstein experiment. a freaking Frankenstein experiment. You're so right. We've talked about that You're so right. We've talked about that You're so right. We've talked about that before here where they come out, they before here where they come out, they before here where they come out, they go, "This is experimental technology." go, "This is experimental technology." go, "This is experimental technology." And yet every company on the planet is And yet every company on the planet is And yet every company on the planet is all in. And I'm like did you not read all in. And I'm like did you not read all in. And I'm like did you not read the fine print? It's experimental. the fine print? It's experimental. the fine print? It's experimental. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And yet every ad on TV and everything And yet every ad on TV and everything And yet every ad on TV and everything you go, you know, I got I just saw Idris you go, you know, I got I just saw Idris you go, you know, I got I just saw Idris Elba again this morning for ServiceNow. Elba again this morning for ServiceNow. Elba again this morning for ServiceNow. You know You know You know >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> and it's just like Yeah. >> and it's just like Yeah. >> and it's just like Yeah. Is You know, it's it's they're all in. Is You know, it's it's they're all in. Is You know, it's it's they're all in. Every company's all in. And the analyst Every company's all in. And the analyst Every company's all in. And the analyst firms are all in. We're all racing firms are all in. We're all racing firms are all in. We're all racing towards the end. towards the end. towards the end. >> Yeah, and none of them are making money. >> Yeah, and none of them are making money. >> Yeah, and none of them are making money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> We don't talk about stock prices, but go >> We don't talk about stock prices, but go >> We don't talk about stock prices, but go and I'll I'll tell everyone maybe this and I'll I'll tell everyone maybe this and I'll I'll tell everyone maybe this is historical. So, hey, go and look at is historical. So, hey, go and look at is historical. So, hey, go and look at the stock prices of all these companies.

the stock prices of all these companies. the stock prices of all these companies. Whether it's Whether it's Whether it's you know, it's a data you know, it's a data you know, it's a data analytics company right? Big data analytics company right? Big data analytics company right? Big data company, whether it's company, whether it's company, whether it's consulting company, you know, what consulting company, you know, what consulting company, you know, what whether it's Indian-based SI or SI. whether it's Indian-based SI or SI. whether it's Indian-based SI or SI. Look, where is the where is the magic? Look, where is the where is the magic? Look, where is the where is the magic? You know, any of these You know, any of these You know, any of these neo clouds that are just neo clouds that are just neo clouds that are just raising funds? raising funds? raising funds? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> is in the numbers. >> is in the numbers. >> is in the numbers. >> [sighs] >> [sighs] >> [sighs] >> Just look, it's it's freaking disaster. >> Just look, it's it's freaking disaster. >> Just look, it's it's freaking disaster. And then you we still have these guys And then you we still have these guys And then you we still have these guys saying this is revolution, you know, on saying this is revolution, you know, on saying this is revolution, you know, on CNBC jumping on going, "Hey, well, you CNBC jumping on going, "Hey, well, you CNBC jumping on going, "Hey, well, you know, you're missing out on the know, you're missing out on the know, you're missing out on the revolution. You know, the revolution. You know, the revolution. You know, the the the the AI revolution. Everyone's missing the AI revolution. Everyone's missing the AI revolution. Everyone's missing the point." It's like, no, you're missing point." It's like, no, you're missing point." It's like, no, you're missing the point. You go and look at the end the point. You go and look at the end the point. You go and look at the end markets, they're disastrous. Yeah. markets, they're disastrous. Yeah. markets, they're disastrous. Yeah. That's I mean, it's the evidence is That's I mean, it's the evidence is That's I mean, it's the evidence is right in front of your face and you right in front of your face and you right in front of your face and you still have these jokers going around still have these jokers going around still have these jokers going around saying that there's an AI revolution saying that there's an AI revolution saying that there's an AI revolution going on just because one company is going on just because one company is going on just because one company is selling a [ __ ] ton of GPUs.

selling a [ __ ] ton of GPUs. selling a [ __ ] ton of GPUs. I thought that I mean, I I I think I I thought that I mean, I I I think I I thought that I mean, I I I think I think it's beyond that though. I mean, think it's beyond that though. I mean, think it's beyond that though. I mean, the one company that's selling the the the one company that's selling the the the one company that's selling the the GPUs is I mean, come on. I mean, that's GPUs is I mean, come on. I mean, that's GPUs is I mean, come on. I mean, that's that's like me selling engines. Right? that's like me selling engines. Right? that's like me selling engines. Right? Yeah. It depends on what you're going to Yeah. It depends on what you're going to Yeah. It depends on what you're going to do with it, right? Yeah. do with it, right? Yeah. do with it, right? Yeah. >> end of the day. If you, you know, >> end of the day. If you, you know, >> end of the day. If you, you know, I I mean, it there's there's a lot I I mean, it there's there's a lot I I mean, it there's there's a lot [clears throat] of just because you can [clears throat] of just because you can [clears throat] of just because you can doesn't mean you should. doesn't mean you should. doesn't mean you should. >> Yeah. Right. Um in accordance with it. >> Yeah. Right. Um in accordance with it. >> Yeah. Right. Um in accordance with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> put don't put a don't put a V8 on your >> put don't put a don't put a V8 on your >> put don't put a don't put a V8 on your bicycle. bicycle. bicycle. Just because you can doesn't mean you Just because you can doesn't mean you Just because you can doesn't mean you should. should. should. >> [laughter] >> You know >> You know >> You know what? We should rename this >> You know what? We should rename this >> You know what? We should rename this this show instead of like AIoT or this show instead of like AIoT or this show instead of like AIoT or GenAIoT GenAIoT GenAIoT coffee talk, we should just call it coffee talk, we should just call it coffee talk, we should just call it FAFO. FAFO. FAFO. I told you what today I told you what today I told you what today What is today? Today is FAFO Friday, What is today? Today is FAFO Friday, What is today? Today is FAFO Friday, everybody. everybody. everybody. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, it is. It is. You're right. You're >> Yeah, it is. It is. You're right. You're >> Yeah, it is. It is. You're right. You're right. That's what this is really is.

right. That's what this is really is. right. That's what this is really is. Yeah. And and that's why every time I Yeah. And and that's why every time I Yeah. And and that's why every time I want to give a shout-out to want to give a shout-out to want to give a shout-out to Rap Rap Rap Rap Rap Rap because they are putting things out that because they are putting things out that because they are putting things out that people think, but they just won't say. people think, but they just won't say. people think, but they just won't say. See, you tell me on FAFO Friday that See, you tell me on FAFO Friday that See, you tell me on FAFO Friday that you've got this AI agent that's going to you've got this AI agent that's going to you've got this AI agent that's going to revolutionize the world, I'm like, no, revolutionize the world, I'm like, no, revolutionize the world, I'm like, no, you got me [ __ ] up. That's not you got me [ __ ] up. That's not you got me [ __ ] up. That's not happening. happening. happening. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> ALL RIGHT? >> ALL RIGHT? >> ALL RIGHT? YEAH, there it is, folks. YEAH, there it is, folks. YEAH, there it is, folks. There you have There you have There you have it. You [snorts] know, how you going to it. You [snorts] know, how you going to it. You [snorts] know, how you going to have one man? You know I'm coming with have one man? You know I'm coming with have one man? You know I'm coming with these on a regular basis. these on a regular basis. these on a regular basis. No, you're poppin', dude. I'm blown No, you're poppin', dude. I'm blown No, you're poppin', dude. I'm blown away. You got new shirts every time. away. You got new shirts every time. away. You got new shirts every time. It's unbelievable. I [laughter] can't It's unbelievable. I [laughter] can't It's unbelievable. I [laughter] can't even imagine what your closet looks even imagine what your closet looks even imagine what your closet looks like. You just got all most badass like. You just got all most badass like. You just got all most badass shirts going on forever. Oh my god. shirts going on forever. Oh my god. shirts going on forever. Oh my god. >> Come on, the man has big ass fans. He >> Come on, the man has big ass fans. He >> Come on, the man has big ass fans. He has a house big enough for multiple big has a house big enough for multiple big has a house big enough for multiple big ass fans. ass fans. ass fans. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I might be able to fit half of a big ass >> I might be able to fit half of a big ass >> I might be able to fit half of a big ass fan in my house. fan in my house. fan in my house. >> seven big ass fans? Yes. Oh my god.

>> seven big ass fans? Yes. Oh my god. >> seven big ass fans? Yes. Oh my god. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Oh, my I love that. I love that. >> Oh, my I love that. I love that. >> Oh, my I love that. I love that. Oh. Oh my god. That's incredible. That's Oh. Oh my god. That's incredible. That's Oh. Oh my god. That's incredible. That's incredible. Oh my god. Good stuff. incredible. Oh my god. Good stuff. incredible. Oh my god. Good stuff. Good stuff. And and and you know what? I Good stuff. And and and you know what? I Good stuff. And and and you know what? I mean, I jumped on late, but I didn't get mean, I jumped on late, but I didn't get mean, I jumped on late, but I didn't get a chance to say. It was so good to see a chance to say. It was so good to see a chance to say. It was so good to see my boy Leonard out in San out out in San my boy Leonard out in San out out in San my boy Leonard out in San out out in San Jose when we were out there. Jose when we were out there. Jose when we were out there. Oh. Oh. Oh. Had a had a blast. Had a had a blast. Had a had a blast. >> Oh my god. And then you know what? He is >> Oh my god. And then you know what? He is >> Oh my god. And then you know what? He is for real. He he freaking he is a for real. He he freaking he is a for real. He he freaking he is a co-owner if not the co-owner if not the co-owner if not the owner of Alexander's Steakhouse. I owner of Alexander's Steakhouse. I owner of Alexander's Steakhouse. I Oh. Wow. Yeah, I mean, he walks in and Oh. Wow. Yeah, I mean, he walks in and Oh. Wow. Yeah, I mean, he walks in and it's like it's like it's like Oh. Oh. Oh. Uh if there was like packed house people Uh if there was like packed house people Uh if there was like packed house people if somebody would have just said, "Oh if somebody would have just said, "Oh if somebody would have just said, "Oh oh, Mr. Pugh oh, Mr. Pugh oh, Mr. Pugh one moment, please. Get your ass OUT OF one moment, please. Get your ass OUT OF one moment, please. Get your ass OUT OF HERE." HERE." HERE." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY. EXACTLY. GET YOUR ASS OUT of here. Here. EXACTLY. GET YOUR ASS OUT of here. Here. EXACTLY. GET YOUR ASS OUT of here. Here. Here's a coupon. You know, we'll Here's a coupon. You know, we'll Here's a coupon. You know, we'll >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Hey, you know what? They they never >> Hey, you know what? They they never >> Hey, you know what? They they never cease to amaze me that every time I show cease to amaze me that every time I show cease to amaze me that every time I show up, it's like stuff just happens. Oh, up, it's like stuff just happens. Oh, up, it's like stuff just happens. Oh, yeah.

yeah. yeah. >> We were sitting there and and so I know >> We were sitting there and and so I know >> We were sitting there and and so I know that I've made mention that they keep a that I've made mention that they keep a that I've made mention that they keep a reserve set of bottles for me in their reserve set of bottles for me in their reserve set of bottles for me in their wine room. Uh it was wine room. Uh it was wine room. Uh it was Yeah, it's crazy. And you know, Yeah, it's crazy. And you know, Yeah, it's crazy. And you know, Alexander's is Alexander's is Alexander's is it it it >> Yeah. like the freaking place that all >> Yeah. like the freaking place that all >> Yeah. like the freaking place that all the Apple execs go, like everyone in the Apple execs go, like everyone in the Apple execs go, like everyone in Cupertino. I mean, that's like I Cupertino. I mean, that's like I Cupertino. I mean, that's like I remember you telling me what the wine remember you telling me what the wine remember you telling me what the wine was, but I forgot. was, but I forgot. was, but I forgot. Do you remember what the wine was? Do you remember what the wine was? Do you remember what the wine was? >> Bros. No, it's the Felpa Bros. >> Bros. No, it's the Felpa Bros. >> Bros. No, it's the Felpa Bros. >> Oh, dude, it's >> Oh, dude, it's >> Oh, dude, it's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> really really good. Yeah, I thought it >> really really good. Yeah, I thought it >> really really good. Yeah, I thought it was like it's Merlot Merlot. It's a was like it's Merlot Merlot. It's a was like it's Merlot Merlot. It's a Malbec. But it's a Malbec. Okay. All Malbec. But it's a Malbec. Okay. All Malbec. But it's a Malbec. Okay. All right. Okay. right. Okay. right. Okay. It's really nice. Yeah, and I didn't It's really nice. Yeah, and I didn't It's really nice. Yeah, and I didn't mean Merlot in a insulting way. mean Merlot in a insulting way. mean Merlot in a insulting way. No, but but you can't blend those two. No, but but you can't blend those two. No, but but you can't blend those two. You you No, no, no, no, but Because that You you No, no, no, no, but Because that You you No, no, no, no, but Because that that Malbec is so good, Rob. I'm telling that Malbec is so good, Rob. I'm telling that Malbec is so good, Rob. I'm telling you. you. you. I mean I mean I mean All right, I'm going to go to the liquor All right, I'm going to go to the liquor All right, I'm going to go to the liquor store right now. store right now. store right now. >> No. Oh.

>> No. Oh. >> No. Oh. >> very twiggy. >> very twiggy. >> very twiggy. It's has a nice balance of twiggy and It's has a nice balance of twiggy and It's has a nice balance of twiggy and super super smooth tannins. It is like super super smooth tannins. It is like super super smooth tannins. It is like ridiculous. ridiculous. ridiculous. You know You know You know >> I've never heard of >> I've never heard of >> I've never heard of twiggy before. twiggy before. twiggy before. But I'm applauding that, you know. But I'm applauding that, you know. But I'm applauding that, you know. Before people watched the original SOMM Before people watched the original SOMM Before people watched the original SOMM movie, they never heard the notion of, movie, they never heard the notion of, movie, they never heard the notion of, "Yeah, it smells like a freshly opened "Yeah, it smells like a freshly opened "Yeah, it smells like a freshly opened can OF TENNIS BALLS." can OF TENNIS BALLS." can OF TENNIS BALLS." >> [laughter] >> YEAH, NO, THIS IS THIS IS YOU will not I >> YEAH, NO, THIS IS THIS IS YOU will not I mean, when I first had it, I went on a mean, when I first had it, I went on a mean, when I first had it, I went on a hunt to try to get it, but it is shipped hunt to try to get it, but it is shipped hunt to try to get it, but it is shipped um um um from Argentina from Argentina from Argentina Mendoza. Okay. Yeah. Mendoza. Okay. Yeah. Mendoza. Okay. Yeah. >> And it is a employee-owned winery and >> And it is a employee-owned winery and >> And it is a employee-owned winery and they only ship so many they only ship so many they only ship so many crates per year. crates per year. crates per year. And Alexander's gets like like four of And Alexander's gets like like four of And Alexander's gets like like four of them. And the guy brought out Kenji.

them. And the guy brought out Kenji. them. And the guy brought out Kenji. Shout-out to Kenji. If you're listening Shout-out to Kenji. If you're listening Shout-out to Kenji. If you're listening to this, Kenji, you and you my dog. to this, Kenji, you and you my dog. to this, Kenji, you and you my dog. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Kenji brings me the box. Yeah. >> Kenji brings me the box. Yeah. >> Kenji brings me the box. Yeah. Yeah, he brought him the box. Oh, like Yeah, he brought him the box. Oh, like Yeah, he brought him the box. Oh, like the wood box? the wood box? the wood box? >> No, no, no, man. You know, um Bill is >> No, no, no, man. You know, um Bill is >> No, no, no, man. You know, um Bill is legit. legit. legit. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Big time. Big time legit. But yeah, you >> Big time. Big time legit. But yeah, you >> Big time. Big time legit. But yeah, you know, it is it is kind of shocking when know, it is it is kind of shocking when know, it is it is kind of shocking when you start to learn about wine and you start to learn about wine and you start to learn about wine and somebody goes, "Hmm. Okay, we have a somebody goes, "Hmm. Okay, we have a somebody goes, "Hmm. Okay, we have a little bit of wild cherry some cassis. little bit of wild cherry some cassis. little bit of wild cherry some cassis. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> I think I smell a hint of bovine dump." >> I think I smell a hint of bovine dump." >> I think I smell a hint of bovine dump." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And then you're going >> And then you're going >> And then you're going "What? "What? "What? COW SHIT?" YEAH. I SAID, "OH, YEAH, this COW SHIT?" YEAH. I SAID, "OH, YEAH, this COW SHIT?" YEAH. I SAID, "OH, YEAH, this is characteristic of this variety." is characteristic of this variety." is characteristic of this variety." In the most pleasant way. Yeah. Yeah. In the most pleasant way. Yeah. Yeah. In the most pleasant way. Yeah. Yeah. It smells like you know, it's like It smells like you know, it's like It smells like you know, it's like almost like you know, you become like a almost like you know, you become like a almost like you know, you become like a cow dung inspector. cow dung inspector. cow dung inspector. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> This is cow >> This is cow >> This is cow They they hooked they hooked us up. They They they hooked they hooked us up. They They they hooked they hooked us up. They That's awesome. It was That's awesome. It was That's awesome. It was That is awesome.

That is awesome. That is awesome. >> I think that was Leonard, was that your >> I think that was Leonard, was that your >> I think that was Leonard, was that your first time having those Hamachi shots? first time having those Hamachi shots? first time having those Hamachi shots? Yeah. Oh, everything was fantastic. The Yeah. Oh, everything was fantastic. The Yeah. Oh, everything was fantastic. The salad was great. salad was great. salad was great. You know, the what was it the the You know, the what was it the the You know, the what was it the the risotto was amazing. Yeah. risotto was amazing. Yeah. risotto was amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I've been once before. Yeah, I've been once before. Yeah, I've been once before. Friend of mine took me there who's Apple Friend of mine took me there who's Apple Friend of mine took me there who's Apple executive. executive. executive. >> of people take risotto for granted and >> of people take risotto for granted and >> of people take risotto for granted and that can be easily screwed up, you know. that can be easily screwed up, you know. that can be easily screwed up, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. No. The uh it was it was it was good. I just The uh it was it was it was good. I just The uh it was it was it was good. I just Like like I said, I I I had told Like like I said, I I I had told Like like I said, I I I had told Leonard, I was like, "When you when you Leonard, I was like, "When you when you Leonard, I was like, "When you when you when we're in town together, I'm going when we're in town together, I'm going when we're in town together, I'm going to take you to my restaurant." to take you to my restaurant." to take you to my restaurant." >> Yeah. No, that was Yeah, you done good. >> Yeah. No, that was Yeah, you done good. >> Yeah. No, that was Yeah, you done good. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> But uh anyways, [clears throat] >> But uh anyways, [clears throat] >> But uh anyways, [clears throat] let's uh let's call it, guys. let's uh let's call it, guys. let's uh let's call it, guys. You want to take us out, Ron? You want to take us out, Ron? You want to take us out, Ron? Sure. Sure. Sure. Thanks, everybody, for joining. Thanks, everybody, for joining. Thanks, everybody, for joining. Uh it was great having Pete on a little Uh it was great having Pete on a little Uh it was great having Pete on a little earlier, you know, basically we're kind earlier, you know, basically we're kind earlier, you know, basically we're kind of celebrating a great another great of celebrating a great another great of celebrating a great another great Edge AI event that Pete put on in San Edge AI event that Pete put on in San Edge AI event that Pete put on in San Diego this week. Um Great venue and you Diego this week. Um Great venue and you Diego this week. Um Great venue and you could see between two and three aircraft could see between two and three aircraft could see between two and three aircraft carriers from the venue, which I know is carriers from the venue, which I know is carriers from the venue, which I know is a minimal requirement for having an Edge a minimal requirement for having an Edge a minimal requirement for having an Edge AI event. And so that was really good to AI event. And so that was really good to AI event. And so that was really good to start, you know. Great to have the the start, you know. Great to have the the start, you know. Great to have the the fun night time event on the deck of the fun night time event on the deck of the fun night time event on the deck of the USS Midway. That was so cool, you know.

USS Midway. That was so cool, you know. USS Midway. That was so cool, you know. It was bringing It was flashbacks, man. It was bringing It was flashbacks, man. It was bringing It was flashbacks, man. I was hanging out by that F-14 Tomcat. I I was hanging out by that F-14 Tomcat. I I was hanging out by that F-14 Tomcat. I was just like, "Oh, man. Come on, was just like, "Oh, man. Come on, was just like, "Oh, man. Come on, Maverick. Let's do this thing. It's time Maverick. Let's do this thing. It's time Maverick. Let's do this thing. It's time to do SOME OF THAT PILOT [ __ ] MAVERICK. to do SOME OF THAT PILOT [ __ ] MAVERICK. to do SOME OF THAT PILOT [ __ ] MAVERICK. >> [laughter] >> AND SO IN IN FACT, I had to watch Top >> AND SO IN IN FACT, I had to watch Top Gun Maverick on the plane flying home Gun Maverick on the plane flying home Gun Maverick on the plane flying home after being there cuz I was just like, after being there cuz I was just like, after being there cuz I was just like, "Yes. Yes. "Yes. Yes. "Yes. Yes. You do it. Talk to me, Goose." You do it. Talk to me, Goose." You do it. Talk to me, Goose." Oh my gosh. So it was Oh my god. Much Oh my gosh. So it was Oh my god. Much Oh my gosh. So it was Oh my god. Much love. Great You know, Pete is just love. Great You know, Pete is just love. Great You know, Pete is just nailing it. Yeah. Oh my god. What a nailing it. Yeah. Oh my god. What a nailing it. Yeah. Oh my god. What a amazing event. Great organization. Um amazing event. Great organization. Um amazing event. Great organization. Um anyway, lots of Edge AI we're talking anyway, lots of Edge AI we're talking anyway, lots of Edge AI we're talking about, lots of AI going rogue in about, lots of AI going rogue in about, lots of AI going rogue in military this week. Um you know, not military this week. Um you know, not military this week. Um you know, not that it happened. We're just talking that it happened. We're just talking that it happened. We're just talking about that it could happen. Um everybody about that it could happen. Um everybody about that it could happen. Um everybody There were some There were exhibitors There were some There were exhibitors There were some There were exhibitors there at the event that are all in with there at the event that are all in with there at the event that are all in with the military, actually. And so we are the military, actually. And so we are the military, actually. And so we are definitely seeing that uh that trend of definitely seeing that uh that trend of definitely seeing that uh that trend of more and more startups and big companies more and more startups and big companies more and more startups and big companies pointing their innovation at the uh DOD.

pointing their innovation at the uh DOD. pointing their innovation at the uh DOD. So that's an interesting trend that So that's an interesting trend that So that's an interesting trend that we're certainly seeing. Um we're certainly seeing. Um we're certainly seeing. Um and you know what? I and you know what? I and you know what? I Jumbo shrimp, I think, is the real word Jumbo shrimp, I think, is the real word Jumbo shrimp, I think, is the real word of the day. Yeah. of the day. Yeah. of the day. Yeah. And [laughter] if it Yeah, on F-18 Oh my And [laughter] if it Yeah, on F-18 Oh my And [laughter] if it Yeah, on F-18 Oh my gosh. Friday. FA Friday. That's right. gosh. Friday. FA Friday. That's right. gosh. Friday. FA Friday. That's right. FA Friday. Exactly. So thanks so much FA Friday. Exactly. So thanks so much FA Friday. Exactly. So thanks so much for joining us and uh you know, for joining us and uh you know, for joining us and uh you know, hopefully we'll be back next week if hopefully we'll be back next week if hopefully we'll be back next week if we're not attacked by friendly fire from we're not attacked by friendly fire from we're not attacked by friendly fire from some rogue AI thing, you know. Kung fu some rogue AI thing, you know. Kung fu some rogue AI thing, you know. Kung fu kick Pete off eating hot pot. kick Pete off eating hot pot. kick Pete off eating hot pot. Exactly. [laughter] Exactly. Exactly. [laughter] Exactly. Exactly. [laughter] Exactly. And also, And also, And also, Yeah. stay away from Houston Yeah. stay away from Houston Yeah. stay away from Houston Intercontinental Airport because I had Intercontinental Airport because I had Intercontinental Airport because I had to wait over 3 hours to get through the to wait over 3 hours to get through the to wait over 3 hours to get through the TSA line on Monday to fly to San Diego. TSA line on Monday to fly to San Diego. TSA line on Monday to fly to San Diego. Oh. And I know, Leonard, you had a Oh. And I know, Leonard, you had a Oh. And I know, Leonard, you had a little struggle early morning at San little struggle early morning at San little struggle early morning at San Diego Airport, no? Diego Airport, no? Diego Airport, no? Um That's good. I avoided the whole Um That's good. I avoided the whole Um That's good. I avoided the whole thing. I did it at Austin Airport. Yeah. thing. I did it at Austin Airport. Yeah. thing. I did it at Austin Airport. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not to say that other Yeah. Yeah. That's not to say that other Yeah. Yeah. That's not to say that other people didn't, but I didn't. people didn't, but I didn't. people didn't, but I didn't. You didn't. Yes. Well, yes, cuz they You didn't. Yes. Well, yes, cuz they You didn't. Yes. Well, yes, cuz they shut down TSA pre, they shut down clear.

shut down TSA pre, they shut down clear. shut down TSA pre, they shut down clear. And I was wrapped around going down And I was wrapped around going down And I was wrapped around going down driveways. You know where cars are driveways. You know where cars are driveways. You know where cars are supposed to be? I mean, it looked like supposed to be? I mean, it looked like supposed to be? I mean, it looked like the whole city of Houston was at the the whole city of Houston was at the the whole city of Houston was at the airport. And I can only imagine if it airport. And I can only imagine if it airport. And I can only imagine if it was summertime and we're like burning was summertime and we're like burning was summertime and we're like burning alive out there. Or if it was pouring alive out there. Or if it was pouring alive out there. Or if it was pouring down rain. Cuz you're just outside for down rain. Cuz you're just outside for down rain. Cuz you're just outside for hours, 3 4 hours. hours, 3 4 hours. hours, 3 4 hours. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No bueno. No bueno. So let's get this >> No bueno. No bueno. So let's get this >> No bueno. No bueno. So let's get this fixed, Congress. Now. Get on it. All fixed, Congress. Now. Get on it. All fixed, Congress. Now. Get on it. All right. right. right. Are you fired? Fired. Are you fired? Fired. Are you fired? Fired. Yes. I'll tell you right now, you think Yes. I'll tell you right now, you think Yes. I'll tell you right now, you think I'm You think I'm dealing with it? >> All right. See you, guys. See you, guys, >> All right. See you, guys. See you, guys, next week. Adios. next week. Adios. next week. Adios. >> [music]