IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 297 - "The Era of Scary AI" (How to avoid it!)

Nice. Nice Nice. Nice little Jimmy. Excellent. Excellent. >> O to Jimmy. O to Hrix. >> O to Jimmy. O to Hrix. >> O to Jimmy. O to Hrix. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Pacific Northwest. >> Pacific Northwest. >> Pacific Northwest. >> Guy right there. >> Is that you? I never noticed you on the >> Is that you? I never noticed you on the back. back. back. >> Keel. If you ever if you are ever >> Keel. If you ever if you are ever >> Keel. If you ever if you are ever shopping for a guitar, you want a shopping for a guitar, you want a shopping for a guitar, you want a custom. custom. custom. That's the company based out of uh That's the company based out of uh That's the company based out of uh Escandido. Escandido. Escandido. Awesome. Awesome guitars. Awesome. Awesome guitars. Awesome. Awesome guitars. So, they didn't pay me to say that. I So, they didn't pay me to say that. I So, they didn't pay me to say that. I had to buy one. had to buy one. had to buy one. >> Got a freebie on that one. >> Got a freebie on that one. >> Got a freebie on that one. >> And it took me four months to get it >> And it took me four months to get it >> And it took me four months to get it because because because >> How's it going, guys? >> How's it going, guys? >> How's it going, guys? >> Good. >> Good. >> Good. >> Good. Keeping warm up here in the >> Good. Keeping warm up here in the >> Good. Keeping warm up here in the Pacific Northwest. I was saying it's in Pacific Northwest. I was saying it's in Pacific Northwest. I was saying it's in the in the mid30s. It's sunny. So, uh, the in the mid30s. It's sunny. So, uh, the in the mid30s. It's sunny. So, uh, >> out and about this morning, but, uh, >> out and about this morning, but, uh, >> out and about this morning, but, uh, it's good to get the vitamin D and, uh, it's good to get the vitamin D and, uh, it's good to get the vitamin D and, uh, you know, dust is settled from CES and you know, dust is settled from CES and you know, dust is settled from CES and now kind of just preparing for the next now kind of just preparing for the next now kind of just preparing for the next wave of wave of wave of stuff stuff stuff >> stuff. Um, yeah, I, uh, I still owe you >> stuff. Um, yeah, I, uh, I still owe you >> stuff. Um, yeah, I, uh, I still owe you a couple of things, Pete. So, I really a couple of things, Pete. So, I really a couple of things, Pete. So, I really apologize about that. I apologize about that. I apologize about that. I >> So much stuff going on, but sometimes >> So much stuff going on, but sometimes >> So much stuff going on, but sometimes it's nice to put content out after the it's nice to put content out after the it's nice to put content out after the fact after all the fact after all the fact after all the >> Oh, yeah. No, it's a >> Oh, yeah. No, it's a >> Oh, yeah. No, it's a There's no shortage of content out

There's no shortage of content out There's no shortage of content out there. We're still publishing uh talks there. We're still publishing uh talks there. We're still publishing uh talks from from from >> Taipei from our Taipei event. >> Taipei from our Taipei event. >> Taipei from our Taipei event. >> Every week we publish another tech talk >> Every week we publish another tech talk >> Every week we publish another tech talk because we had we had two days worth of because we had we had two days worth of because we had we had two days worth of talks there. So talks there. So talks there. So >> Well, >> Well, >> Well, >> yeah. No, I think that stuff is like >> yeah. No, I think that stuff is like >> yeah. No, I think that stuff is like just keep it coming, you know? There's just keep it coming, you know? There's just keep it coming, you know? There's always something new to learn. So thing. always something new to learn. So thing. always something new to learn. So thing. >> Yeah. Well, we have the IoT coffee talk >> Yeah. Well, we have the IoT coffee talk >> Yeah. Well, we have the IoT coffee talk that we did there. So, that we did there. So, that we did there. So, >> that's true. >> that's true. >> that's true. >> That's out. You finally liked it. Um but >> That's out. You finally liked it. Um but >> That's out. You finally liked it. Um but hey everyone welcome to IoT coffee talk hey everyone welcome to IoT coffee talk hey everyone welcome to IoT coffee talk and remember um it is very dangerous to and remember um it is very dangerous to and remember um it is very dangerous to take us very seriously. In fact it's take us very seriously. In fact it's take us very seriously. In fact it's even dangerous to take us slightly even dangerous to take us slightly even dangerous to take us slightly seriously. We're here just to have fun seriously. We're here just to have fun seriously. We're here just to have fun and this is for semi-informational and this is for semi-informational and this is for semi-informational purposes or marginallyformational purposes or marginallyformational purposes or marginallyformational purposes only. purposes only. purposes only. >> Um it isformational. It's what you do >> Um it isformational. It's what you do >> Um it isformational. It's what you do with the information that we do not want with the information that we do not want with the information that we do not want with but of information with but of information with but of information people to take insurance out people to take insurance out people to take insurance out >> coffee talk uh yeah insurance policy >> coffee talk uh yeah insurance policy >> coffee talk uh yeah insurance policy >> well great power comes great >> well great power comes great >> well great power comes great responsibility right you would have to responsibility right you would have to responsibility right you would have to know the the insurance companies that know the the insurance companies that know the the insurance companies that will insure against us will insure against us will insure against us >> with great power comes great disclaimers >> with great power comes great disclaimers >> with great power comes great disclaimers >> yeah yeah so you know yeah again You >> yeah yeah so you know yeah again You >> yeah yeah so you know yeah again You guys all know we're here just to have guys all know we're here just to have guys all know we're here just to have fun, share, and have a good time. And fun, share, and have a good time. And fun, share, and have a good time. And Rob is going to be joining us. Oh no, Rob is going to be joining us. Oh no, Rob is going to be joining us. Oh no, his stupid AI is No, I'm gonna kick this his stupid AI is No, I'm gonna kick this his stupid AI is No, I'm gonna kick this guy out. What the hell, man?

guy out. What the hell, man? guy out. What the hell, man? >> Is that Rob AI? >> Is that Rob AI? >> Is that Rob AI? >> God damn it. >> God damn it. >> God damn it. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Rob joined through his AI. Oh, there's >> Rob joined through his AI. Oh, there's >> Rob joined through his AI. Oh, there's Rob. Rob. Rob. >> No, that doesn't look like he's AI. >> No, that doesn't look like he's AI. >> No, that doesn't look like he's AI. >> Creepy agent. >> Creepy agent. >> Creepy agent. >> Weird AI. Out of here. >> Weird AI. Out of here. >> Weird AI. Out of here. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Hey. >> Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Hey. >> Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Hey. >> Hey. >> Hey. >> Hey. >> Nice one. >> Nice one. >> Nice one. >> Nice gear. Nice gear. >> Nice gear. Nice gear. >> Nice gear. Nice gear. >> Got the gear. >> Got the gear. >> Got the gear. >> Woohoo. >> Woohoo. >> Woohoo. >> Yeah. So, hey, I want to start off by >> Yeah. So, hey, I want to start off by >> Yeah. So, hey, I want to start off by with this this thing that I witnessed at with this this thing that I witnessed at with this this thing that I witnessed at the NAM show. So, I'm at kind of the NAM show. So, I'm at kind of the NAM show. So, I'm at kind of attending the NAM show when I can, which attending the NAM show when I can, which attending the NAM show when I can, which is the National Association is the National Association is the National Association of Music Merchants. of Music Merchants. of Music Merchants. and I sat in a AI workshop that scared and I sat in a AI workshop that scared and I sat in a AI workshop that scared the living crap out of me. So, you have the living crap out of me. So, you have the living crap out of me. So, you have this guy up on stage and he goes into this guy up on stage and he goes into this guy up on stage and he goes into the Q&A and somebody in the audience the Q&A and somebody in the audience the Q&A and somebody in the audience says, "Yeah, hey, you know, I have a says, "Yeah, hey, you know, I have a says, "Yeah, hey, you know, I have a question. Um, how do you put your are question. Um, how do you put your are question. Um, how do you put your are you going to be talking about how you you going to be talking about how you you going to be talking about how you can put your credit card uh number or can put your credit card uh number or can put your credit card uh number or your bank account number and into chat your bank account number and into chat your bank account number and into chat GPT so that it can agentically do stuff GPT so that it can agentically do stuff GPT so that it can agentically do stuff for you? Um, the the guy in the session for you? Um, the the guy in the session for you? Um, the the guy in the session before us told you told us that that's before us told you told us that that's before us told you told us that that's something that you can do and I just something that you can do and I just something that you can do and I just want to find out if you're going to want to find out if you're going to want to find out if you're going to cover that in your workshop. And I cover that in your workshop. And I cover that in your workshop. And I almost just stood up and wanted to say,

almost just stood up and wanted to say, almost just stood up and wanted to say, "What the freaking hell is wrong with "What the freaking hell is wrong with "What the freaking hell is wrong with you people?" You know, it was like you people?" You know, it was like you people?" You know, it was like >> I was absolutely stunned. And then >> I was absolutely stunned. And then >> I was absolutely stunned. And then people around me were going, "Yeah, people around me were going, "Yeah, people around me were going, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." You know, yeah, that's a yeah, yeah." You know, yeah, that's a yeah, yeah." You know, yeah, that's a good idea. good idea. good idea. >> Yeah, let's do it. Blue >> Yeah, let's do it. Blue >> Yeah, let's do it. Blue >> any of the stuff. >> any of the stuff. >> any of the stuff. >> But your reaction was the wrong one. >> But your reaction was the wrong one. >> But your reaction was the wrong one. Neonad. should have added. Hey, don't Neonad. should have added. Hey, don't Neonad. should have added. Hey, don't forget to put the pin. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Freaking glue. >> Freaking glue. >> Freaking glue. >> And your and your fingerprints, too. >> And your and your fingerprints, too. >> And your and your fingerprints, too. Your fingerprints fingerprints on there. Your fingerprints fingerprints on there. Your fingerprints fingerprints on there. >> If it's a fingerprint, >> If it's a fingerprint, >> If it's a fingerprint, >> your retinal >> your retinal >> your retinal >> Let's be Let's be accurate, people. If >> Let's be Let's be accurate, people. If >> Let's be Let's be accurate, people. If it's a debit card, put the pin. And if it's a debit card, put the pin. And if it's a debit card, put the pin. And if it's not, make sure there's a clear it's not, make sure there's a clear it's not, make sure there's a clear picture of your face. picture of your face. picture of your face. >> Yes. Please. Please. >> Yes. Please. Please. >> Yes. Please. Please. >> Yeah. This is what people are doing >> Yeah. This is what people are doing >> Yeah. This is what people are doing outside bubble. And this is why prompt outside bubble. And this is why prompt outside bubble. And this is why prompt engineers, these so-called, they are not engineers, these so-called, they are not engineers, these so-called, they are not AI pros, people. AI pros, people. AI pros, people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They have no effing idea what they're >> They have no effing idea what they're >> They have no effing idea what they're doing. And when they go to these doing. And when they go to these doing. And when they go to these industry events and they get up on stage industry events and they get up on stage industry events and they get up on stage and say whatever kind of crap that and say whatever kind of crap that and say whatever kind of crap that they're putting out there because they're putting out there because they're putting out there because they're tinkering with chat bots, that they're tinkering with chat bots, that they're tinkering with chat bots, that is not AI. And you can do seriously is not AI. And you can do seriously is not AI. And you can do seriously dangerous dangerous dangerous listening to these guys. And this is the listening to these guys. And this is the listening to these guys. And this is the problem with enterprises that rely on problem with enterprises that rely on problem with enterprises that rely on these prompt engine so-called prompt these prompt engine so-called prompt these prompt engine so-called prompt engineer guys. Be very careful. These engineer guys. Be very careful. These engineer guys. Be very careful. These guys are I I I will say are a freaking

guys are I I I will say are a freaking guys are I I I will say are a freaking joke joke joke and they're very dangerous. I could not and they're very dangerous. I could not and they're very dangerous. I could not believe what I was hearing. It was like believe what I was hearing. It was like believe what I was hearing. It was like I I saw the end of the end of humanity I I saw the end of the end of humanity I I saw the end of the end of humanity guys. I mean like freaking idiocracy on guys. I mean like freaking idiocracy on guys. I mean like freaking idiocracy on like freaking like freaking like freaking >> we have met the enemy and he is us. >> we have met the enemy and he is us. >> we have met the enemy and he is us. >> But on on the bright side of things >> But on on the bright side of things >> But on on the bright side of things though Pete I wanted to say man you guys though Pete I wanted to say man you guys though Pete I wanted to say man you guys might want to show up. Edge AI might want to show up. Edge AI might want to show up. Edge AI Foundation might want to show up here Foundation might want to show up here Foundation might want to show up here because you know they're tinkering because you know they're tinkering because you know they're tinkering around with like edge AI so microers you around with like edge AI so microers you around with like edge AI so microers you know analog devices is there. Yeah, ad know analog devices is there. Yeah, ad know analog devices is there. Yeah, ad yeah Apple is there. Um Qualcomm was yeah Apple is there. Um Qualcomm was yeah Apple is there. Um Qualcomm was there last year and I think they need to there last year and I think they need to there last year and I think they need to come back because the the there is a come back because the the there is a come back because the the there is a tinkering tinkerer community there tinkering tinkerer community there tinkering tinkerer community there that's now messing around with um that's now messing around with um that's now messing around with um generative AI uh for like um generative AI uh for like um generative AI uh for like um instruments. instruments. instruments. >> Yeah. Well, like accompaniment >> Yeah. Well, like accompaniment >> Yeah. Well, like accompaniment accompaniment. accompaniment. accompaniment. >> Well, well, no, not even that. for >> Well, well, no, not even that. for >> Well, well, no, not even that. for sounds to to um do like really and this sounds to to um do like really and this sounds to to um do like really and this is something I'm going to delve into a is something I'm going to delve into a is something I'm going to delve into a little bit more when I go back tomorrow, little bit more when I go back tomorrow, little bit more when I go back tomorrow, but delving into uh you know these but delving into uh you know these but delving into uh you know these creative instruments that go that are creative instruments that go that are creative instruments that go that are part of the creative process. They don't part of the creative process. They don't part of the creative process. They don't generate the out you know like the final generate the out you know like the final generate the out you know like the final or whatever but it's for um novel or whatever but it's for um novel or whatever but it's for um novel um sound generation.

um sound generation. um sound generation. >> Yeah. uh things like that. And yeah, >> Yeah. uh things like that. And yeah, >> Yeah. uh things like that. And yeah, there there's something really there there's something really there there's something really interesting going on. interesting going on. interesting going on. >> Oh, we need to create a working group. >> Oh, we need to create a working group. >> Oh, we need to create a working group. We need a music working group in our our We need a music working group in our our We need a music working group in our our main. main. main. >> Yeah. And there's an organization called >> Yeah. And there's an organization called >> Yeah. And there's an organization called in music. Um I I'll I'll send you some in music. Um I I'll I'll send you some in music. Um I I'll I'll send you some information so that you're aware of what information so that you're aware of what information so that you're aware of what these guys are doing, uh what is doing. these guys are doing, uh what is doing. these guys are doing, uh what is doing. But there is like a freaking maker But there is like a freaking maker But there is like a freaking maker community in the the music um industry community in the the music um industry community in the the music um industry that's tinkering with this stuff cuz you that's tinkering with this stuff cuz you that's tinkering with this stuff cuz you know they before there was this whole know they before there was this whole know they before there was this whole resurgence of um the analog movement resurgence of um the analog movement resurgence of um the analog movement right analog electronics right analog electronics right analog electronics >> and this is kind of like an extension of >> and this is kind of like an extension of >> and this is kind of like an extension of that. So, that. So, that. So, this is really interesting. this is really interesting. this is really interesting. >> Well, there must have been a lot of >> Well, there must have been a lot of >> Well, there must have been a lot of things like I mean like I use like Deep things like I mean like I use like Deep things like I mean like I use like Deep Buddy and some of these pedals, you Buddy and some of these pedals, you Buddy and some of these pedals, you know, that know, that know, that >> accompany you with, you know, drum >> accompany you with, you know, drum >> accompany you with, you know, drum tracks and they sort of listen to how tracks and they sort of listen to how tracks and they sort of listen to how you're playing and they I can imagine you're playing and they I can imagine you're playing and they I can imagine that there's a lot of interesting that there's a lot of interesting that there's a lot of interesting developments happening there where developments happening there where developments happening there where >> in a in a pedal, you know, in a box, you >> in a in a pedal, you know, in a box, you >> in a in a pedal, you know, in a box, you could really get some pretty full could really get some pretty full could really get some pretty full accompaniment and kind of uh sound accompaniment and kind of uh sound accompaniment and kind of uh sound generation, you know, music generation.

generation, you know, music generation. generation, you know, music generation. >> Yeah. But that's, you know, like like >> Yeah. But that's, you know, like like >> Yeah. But that's, you know, like like I'm saying, it's a it's a thing that I'm saying, it's a it's a thing that I'm saying, it's a it's a thing that kind of um you know, uh impressed me on kind of um you know, uh impressed me on kind of um you know, uh impressed me on the the the >> Yeah. Oh, it's pretty cool stuff. >> Yeah. Oh, it's pretty cool stuff. >> Yeah. Oh, it's pretty cool stuff. >> I have a question on that on on the >> I have a question on that on on the >> I have a question on that on on the music because there's one thing that I music because there's one thing that I music because there's one thing that I find very uh very interesting as a as a find very uh very interesting as a as a find very uh very interesting as a as a geek is I think a couple of years ago I geek is I think a couple of years ago I geek is I think a couple of years ago I went to a show and uh before the show went to a show and uh before the show went to a show and uh before the show started there was an artist doing some started there was an artist doing some started there was an artist doing some music but the way she was doing the music but the way she was doing the music but the way she was doing the music was by using code. I think she use music was by using code. I think she use music was by using code. I think she use a a platform called strudel. So there is a a platform called strudel. So there is a a platform called strudel. So there is a standard to actually do do music as a standard to actually do do music as a standard to actually do do music as code. So yeah strudel I think is the code. So yeah strudel I think is the code. So yeah strudel I think is the name and it's based on title something name and it's based on title something name and it's based on title something there's a whole standard to actually there's a whole standard to actually there's a whole standard to actually code music. So you can play music with code music. So you can play music with code music. So you can play music with code. So if you seeing this kind of code. So if you seeing this kind of code. So if you seeing this kind of stuff as well in this this meeting stuff as well in this this meeting stuff as well in this this meeting >> well >> well >> well >> not yet. >> not yet. >> not yet. >> We got some trivia for our audience >> We got some trivia for our audience >> We got some trivia for our audience though and we'll see if anybody in the though and we'll see if anybody in the though and we'll see if anybody in the audience can guess the answer to this. I audience can guess the answer to this. I audience can guess the answer to this. I know you all know the answer as far as know you all know the answer as far as know you all know the answer as far as sound generation, sound generation, sound generation, just creating special sounds. Who out just creating special sounds. Who out just creating special sounds. Who out there knows how the original sound back there knows how the original sound back there knows how the original sound back in the 50s for the Godzilla movies when in the 50s for the Godzilla movies when in the 50s for the Godzilla movies when it first came out and the sound that it first came out and the sound that it first came out and the sound that Godzilla makes?

>> Does anyone know how that sound was >> Does anyone know how that sound was generated? generated? generated? >> Yes, it was you. We know that >> Yes, it was you. We know that >> Yes, it was you. We know that >> when you were a baby. >> when you were a baby. >> when you were a baby. >> Anyone? Anyone know? >> Anyone? Anyone know? >> Anyone? Anyone know? >> Hold on. Hold on. It was alligator. >> Hold on. Hold on. It was alligator. >> Hold on. Hold on. It was alligator. >> Not an alligator. >> Not an alligator. >> Not an alligator. >> I don't know that. >> I don't know that. >> I don't know that. But But But >> it's cuz you know, obviously I've been a >> it's cuz you know, obviously I've been a >> it's cuz you know, obviously I've been a Godzilla fan since I was a kid. Godzilla fan since I was a kid. Godzilla fan since I was a kid. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Someone had a imagined a door that you >> Someone had a imagined a door that you >> Someone had a imagined a door that you open and close and there's the hinges open and close and there's the hinges open and close and there's the hinges and it was squeaky hinges and so they and it was squeaky hinges and so they and it was squeaky hinges and so they open the door and it goes open the door and it goes open the door and it goes And then they slowed it down. And then they slowed it down. And then they slowed it down. >> Oh, no way. >> Oh, no way. >> Oh, no way. >> Way down and got the slow motion. >> Way down and got the slow motion. >> Way down and got the slow motion. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> that is Godzilla's sound that he makes >> that is Godzilla's sound that he makes >> that is Godzilla's sound that he makes came from a squeaky hinge on a door came from a squeaky hinge on a door came from a squeaky hinge on a door opening slowed way down. opening slowed way down. opening slowed way down. >> Most of like the old time foley artists, >> Most of like the old time foley artists, >> Most of like the old time foley artists, they call them foley artist they call them foley artist they call them foley artist >> do all of the real time sound effects, >> do all of the real time sound effects, >> do all of the real time sound effects, you know, you know, you know, you know, as and all that stuff.

you know, as and all that stuff. you know, as and all that stuff. legit OG analog humans doing it with legit OG analog humans doing it with legit OG analog humans doing it with door hinges door hinges door hinges >> just carrying stuff. >> just carrying stuff. >> just carrying stuff. >> Another really interesting example >> Another really interesting example >> Another really interesting example actually I saw a Tik Tok thing because actually I saw a Tik Tok thing because actually I saw a Tik Tok thing because I'm I'm a Tik Tok voyer. I don't post I'm I'm a Tik Tok voyer. I don't post I'm I'm a Tik Tok voyer. I don't post much. much. much. >> Didn't know that. >> Didn't know that. >> Didn't know that. >> There's a there's a short clip of David >> There's a there's a short clip of David >> There's a there's a short clip of David Gilmore explaining on the on the album Gilmore explaining on the on the album Gilmore explaining on the on the album the the dark side of the moon being the the dark side of the moon being the the dark side of the moon being Floyd. There is a song called on the Floyd. There is a song called on the Floyd. There is a song called on the run. run. run. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you know how >> Do you know how >> Do you know how >> how he developed that? Yeah. Yeah, >> how he developed that? Yeah. Yeah, >> how he developed that? Yeah. Yeah, >> it's actually 10 notes accelerated. So >> it's actually 10 notes accelerated. So >> it's actually 10 notes accelerated. So it's a it's a piano playing. I mean a it's a it's a piano playing. I mean a it's a it's a piano playing. I mean a synthe synthe synthe but but it's accelerated like you know but but it's accelerated like you know but but it's accelerated like you know 10 notes in one second. So it sounds 10 notes in one second. So it sounds 10 notes in one second. So it sounds like something purely you know digital like something purely you know digital like something purely you know digital you know sound effect. No, it's just you know sound effect. No, it's just you know sound effect. No, it's just regular notes played fast regular notes played fast regular notes played fast >> with a nice speed and sound. So it's >> with a nice speed and sound. So it's >> with a nice speed and sound. So it's very very fascinating. There's actually very very fascinating. There's actually very very fascinating. There's actually I don't remember the name. There's also I don't remember the name. There's also I don't remember the name. There's also a great series on Tik Tok of a guy that a great series on Tik Tok of a guy that a great series on Tik Tok of a guy that actually decompose the different songs actually decompose the different songs actually decompose the different songs and it explained the production. I've and it explained the production. I've and it explained the production. I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that.

seen that. Yeah, I've seen that. seen that. Yeah, I've seen that. >> Track by track, you know how they super >> Track by track, you know how they super >> Track by track, you know how they super interesting actually. I I don't remember interesting actually. I I don't remember interesting actually. I I don't remember the name of the guy, but it's super the name of the guy, but it's super the name of the guy, but it's super interesting. interesting. interesting. >> There's a lot of a lot of shows and >> There's a lot of a lot of shows and >> There's a lot of a lot of shows and YouTube videos that do that. You know, YouTube videos that do that. You know, YouTube videos that do that. You know, they do like isolation of various they do like isolation of various they do like isolation of various tracks. My favorite are the ones with tracks. My favorite are the ones with tracks. My favorite are the ones with Eddie Van Halen, of course. Eddie Van Halen, of course. Eddie Van Halen, of course. >> So, since you you're more in the >> So, since you you're more in the >> So, since you you're more in the musician area than I am, so how do you musician area than I am, so how do you musician area than I am, so how do you get access to those masters? Are they get access to those masters? Are they get access to those masters? Are they publicly available after a certain publicly available after a certain publicly available after a certain period of time? period of time? period of time? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Inside access through >> Inside access through >> Inside access through >> Well, you Yeah, you have to use uh I >> Well, you Yeah, you have to use uh I >> Well, you Yeah, you have to use uh I mean that's where you use kind of signal mean that's where you use kind of signal mean that's where you use kind of signal processing to extract the tracks from processing to extract the tracks from processing to extract the tracks from each other. each other. each other. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But then I would really like to >> Yeah. But then I would really like to >> Yeah. But then I would really like to know the name of those tools because know the name of those tools because know the name of those tools because some things I've seen the quality it some things I've seen the quality it some things I've seen the quality it looks like the guy had the tape. looks like the guy had the tape. looks like the guy had the tape. >> Yeah. It's um you know Qualcomm partners >> Yeah. It's um you know Qualcomm partners >> Yeah. It's um you know Qualcomm partners and Apple does as well with this company and Apple does as well with this company and Apple does as well with this company called Moises. Moisty. called Moises. Moisty. called Moises. Moisty. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Um yeah. Um they've been featured at >> Um yeah. Um they've been featured at >> Um yeah. Um they've been featured at Snapdragon Summit for the last two Snapdragon Summit for the last two Snapdragon Summit for the last two years. Um and you know they're a big years. Um and you know they're a big years. Um and you know they're a big selling point for the MPU.

selling point for the MPU. selling point for the MPU. >> So they do that >> So they do that >> So they do that >> cycles. So in the in the DJ world >> cycles. So in the in the DJ world >> cycles. So in the in the DJ world there's a there was an initiative a few there's a there was an initiative a few there's a there was an initiative a few years ago where you could actually there years ago where you could actually there years ago where you could actually there was some processing. So they would was some processing. So they would was some processing. So they would isolate from the song the vocals isolate from the song the vocals isolate from the song the vocals so you can actually do better mixing. so you can actually do better mixing. so you can actually do better mixing. And it's actually pretty impressive. And it's actually pretty impressive. And it's actually pretty impressive. They did that with karaoke machines long They did that with karaoke machines long They did that with karaoke machines long time ago. time ago. time ago. >> Yeah. Yeah. Extracting the vocals. I >> Yeah. Yeah. Extracting the vocals. I >> Yeah. Yeah. Extracting the vocals. I mean there's a lot of AI this is AI mean there's a lot of AI this is AI mean there's a lot of AI this is AI audio stuff is fascinating space. We audio stuff is fascinating space. We audio stuff is fascinating space. We actually have a working group now for AI actually have a working group now for AI actually have a working group now for AI audio that's um and actually that was a audio that's um and actually that was a audio that's um and actually that was a cool thing I saw a lot at CES like the cool thing I saw a lot at CES like the cool thing I saw a lot at CES like the processing of audio signals to you know processing of audio signals to you know processing of audio signals to you know for speaking and we're isolating and um for speaking and we're isolating and um for speaking and we're isolating and um all of this stuff is really all of this stuff is really all of this stuff is really revolutionary and I think we're just revolutionary and I think we're just revolutionary and I think we're just scratching the surface on these use scratching the surface on these use scratching the surface on these use cases cases cases >> and these models are not extremely heavy >> and these models are not extremely heavy >> and these models are not extremely heavy so this is so this is so this is >> no they're not they're not they're in >> no they're not they're not they're in >> no they're not they're not they're in they're implanted in wearables I mean they're implanted in wearables I mean they're implanted in wearables I mean I'm actually using them in my AirPods I'm actually using them in my AirPods I'm actually using them in my AirPods probably so probably so probably so >> on on that topic the devil object that >> on on that topic the devil object that >> on on that topic the devil object that you hate Pete has arrived you hate Pete has arrived you hate Pete has arrived Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Raspberry Pi with the >> Raspberry Pi with the >> Raspberry Pi with the >> on top.

>> on top. >> on top. >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> It got in yesterday and I was in Vegas >> It got in yesterday and I was in Vegas >> It got in yesterday and I was in Vegas this week. So I haven't played with your this week. So I haven't played with your this week. So I haven't played with your model on that thing and go to town. model on that thing and go to town. model on that thing and go to town. >> I'm going to play with you this weekend. >> I'm going to play with you this weekend. >> I'm going to play with you this weekend. Hopefully Hopefully Hopefully >> Rob one Pete zero. Pete and Rick zero >> Rob one Pete zero. Pete and Rick zero >> Rob one Pete zero. Pete and Rick zero >> foundation. It's the foundation of our >> foundation. It's the foundation of our >> foundation. It's the foundation of our whole society. whole society. whole society. >> There it is right there. >> There it is right there. >> There it is right there. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> Oh my god. Exactly. >> Yeah. So, it's um it's nuts out there. >> Yeah. So, it's um it's nuts out there. >> Sounds like the N music world is hot. >> Sounds like the N music world is hot. >> Sounds like the N music world is hot. Did you guys see this like an Did you guys see this like an Did you guys see this like an announcement from Cababus? Cereabus. announcement from Cababus? Cereabus. announcement from Cababus? Cereabus. >> What are they doing? >> What are they doing? >> What are they doing? >> They did a deal with Open AI for like 10 >> They did a deal with Open AI for like 10 >> They did a deal with Open AI for like 10 billion for blah blah blah. billion for blah blah blah. billion for blah blah blah. >> What are they who? >> What are they who? >> What are they who? >> Who paid who? >> Who paid who? >> Who paid who? >> 10 billion 10 billion IUs from Sam >> 10 billion 10 billion IUs from Sam >> 10 billion 10 billion IUs from Sam Alman. Alman. Alman. >> Yeah. Yeah. 10 billion. >> Yeah. Yeah. 10 billion. >> Yeah. Yeah. 10 billion. >> Like I do AC/DC like a a spin on the >> Like I do AC/DC like a a spin on the >> Like I do AC/DC like a a spin on the AC/DC song. Who made who? AC/DC song. Who made who? AC/DC song. Who made who? >> Who made who? That's >> Who made who? That's >> Who made who? That's >> who paid who. >> who paid who. >> who paid who. >> Who paid who?

>> Who paid who? >> Who paid who? >> But but come on. It's 10 billion with >> But but come on. It's 10 billion with >> But but come on. It's 10 billion with OpenAI. This is pocket change. Come on. OpenAI. This is pocket change. Come on. OpenAI. This is pocket change. Come on. >> Yeah. No, it's nothing. >> Yeah. No, it's nothing. >> Yeah. No, it's nothing. >> It's like I'll pay you 10 billion and >> It's like I'll pay you 10 billion and >> It's like I'll pay you 10 billion and then you pay someone else 10 billion and then you pay someone else 10 billion and then you pay someone else 10 billion and then they'll pay me back the 10 billion then they'll pay me back the 10 billion then they'll pay me back the 10 billion I paid you. I paid you. I paid you. >> We're all good. We're all good. >> We're all good. We're all good. >> We're all good. We're all good. >> We're all good. >> We're all good. >> We're all good. >> But if you're doing that, we're doing it >> But if you're doing that, we're doing it >> But if you're doing that, we're doing it with 10 billion. Do it with 200. It's with 10 billion. Do it with 200. It's with 10 billion. Do it with 200. It's better. better. better. >> Sure. Sure. Yeah, I think I think it's >> Sure. Sure. Yeah, I think I think it's >> Sure. Sure. Yeah, I think I think it's just interesting these well there's the just interesting these well there's the just interesting these well there's the obviously the transactional process obviously the transactional process obviously the transactional process there but also the fact that some of there but also the fact that some of there but also the fact that some of these um AI companies now are focusing these um AI companies now are focusing these um AI companies now are focusing more on specialized silicon beyond the more on specialized silicon beyond the more on specialized silicon beyond the GPU as a differentiator. So whether it's GPU as a differentiator. So whether it's GPU as a differentiator. So whether it's Grock or Cerus or you know I think Grock or Cerus or you know I think Grock or Cerus or you know I think that's kind of the hot space right now that's kind of the hot space right now that's kind of the hot space right now is like how do we uh do more than just is like how do we uh do more than just is like how do we uh do more than just the plain old brute force the brute the plain old brute force the brute the plain old brute force the brute force method but force method but force method but >> it's not even they're all brute force >> it's not even they're all brute force >> it's not even they're all brute force it's just that um the architecture the it's just that um the architecture the it's just that um the architecture the >> specialized arpu is the general purpose >> specialized arpu is the general purpose >> specialized arpu is the general purpose for all these large scale application for all these large scale application for all these large scale application specific um requirements it just is not specific um requirements it just is not specific um requirements it just is not not that compelling, right? And I mean not that compelling, right? And I mean not that compelling, right? And I mean it we've I mean you know people were it we've I mean you know people were it we've I mean you know people were saying ah you know CUDA's going to save saying ah you know CUDA's going to save saying ah you know CUDA's going to save stuff and you know Nvidia and create stuff and you know Nvidia and create stuff and you know Nvidia and create this you know impenetrable mode but the this you know impenetrable mode but the this you know impenetrable mode but the reality is it's going the way of crypto reality is it's going the way of crypto reality is it's going the way of crypto you know everyone was using GPUs you know everyone was using GPUs you know everyone was using GPUs initially searching for the optimal initially searching for the optimal initially searching for the optimal algorithm for mining um Bitcoin right

algorithm for mining um Bitcoin right algorithm for mining um Bitcoin right and they found it and they created an and they found it and they created an and they found it and they created an ASIC and then boom all of a sudden Uh, ASIC and then boom all of a sudden Uh, ASIC and then boom all of a sudden Uh, Jensen doesn't care about GP crypto Jensen doesn't care about GP crypto Jensen doesn't care about GP crypto anymore, anymore, anymore, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> That's why I'm creating my >> That's why I'm creating my >> That's why I'm creating my >> I'm creating my own specialized AS6 in >> I'm creating my own specialized AS6 in >> I'm creating my own specialized AS6 in my garage. But that that that literally my garage. But that that that literally my garage. But that that that literally is like what Grock is. is like what Grock is. is like what Grock is. >> And and then you know you know he talked >> And and then you know you know he talked >> And and then you know you know he talked about it when he was in Davos and um about it when he was in Davos and um about it when he was in Davos and um yeah I mean this does not fit his yeah I mean this does not fit his yeah I mean this does not fit his narrative from two three years ago not narrative from two three years ago not narrative from two three years ago not at all or even from at all or even from at all or even from uh 8 months ago. M uh 8 months ago. M uh 8 months ago. M >> I mean he's turned like this and people >> I mean he's turned like this and people >> I mean he's turned like this and people don't realize that. don't realize that. don't realize that. >> I mean they really don't. They think >> I mean they really don't. They think >> I mean they really don't. They think that we're well number one they don't that we're well number one they don't that we're well number one they don't even know where we are with AI and what even know where we are with AI and what even know where we are with AI and what the AI landscape really is and they the AI landscape really is and they the AI landscape really is and they haven't really tuned into the fact that haven't really tuned into the fact that haven't really tuned into the fact that there is a pivot going on there. There there is a pivot going on there. There there is a pivot going on there. There is a big shift that's happening already is a big shift that's happening already is a big shift that's happening already and people find out in about 12 months.

and people find out in about 12 months. and people find out in about 12 months. And you know who those people And you know who those people And you know who those people >> unless they watch the show then they'll >> unless they watch the show then they'll >> unless they watch the show then they'll know now. know now. know now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, you know, we can there's many >> Well, you know, we can there's many >> Well, you know, we can there's many points on the show we can go back to and points on the show we can go back to and points on the show we can go back to and say, "Hey, look, we so say, "Hey, look, we so say, "Hey, look, we so >> yeah, I mean, we we sound stupid right >> yeah, I mean, we we sound stupid right >> yeah, I mean, we we sound stupid right now. now. now. >> We're not going to sound stupid in a few >> We're not going to sound stupid in a few >> We're not going to sound stupid in a few months. months. months. >> Don't be that don't be that hard on >> Don't be that don't be that hard on >> Don't be that don't be that hard on yourself." yourself." yourself." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Don't sell yourself short. >> Yeah. Don't sell yourself short. >> Yeah. Don't sell yourself short. >> Yeah. I'm >> Yeah. I'm >> Yeah. I'm >> You're tremendous slouch. You don't want your you don't want your You don't want your you don't want your AP to be I sounded stupid all my life, AP to be I sounded stupid all my life, AP to be I sounded stupid all my life, but I was right. but I was right. but I was right. >> Yeah. You know, but when you think about >> Yeah. You know, but when you think about >> Yeah. You know, but when you think about the people who don't know, like you're the people who don't know, like you're the people who don't know, like you're worried about are going to find out that worried about are going to find out that worried about are going to find out that group of people is still the tiniest group of people is still the tiniest group of people is still the tiniest 0.001% 0.001% 0.001% of the population. Most people are just of the population. Most people are just of the population. Most people are just trying to get a better place in line at trying to get a better place in line at trying to get a better place in line at the drive-thru at McDonald's, you know, the drive-thru at McDonald's, you know, the drive-thru at McDonald's, you know, >> and hoping that their fries aren't >> and hoping that their fries aren't >> and hoping that their fries aren't soggy. soggy. soggy. True. Th those are real people. Those True. Th those are real people. Those True. Th those are real people. Those are not us at all.

are not us at all. are not us at all. >> No, but see that's the scary thing. >> No, but see that's the scary thing. >> No, but see that's the scary thing. >> I like my fries crispy, Rob. Me, too. >> I like my fries crispy, Rob. Me, too. >> I like my fries crispy, Rob. Me, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That crowd listening to that prompt >> That crowd listening to that prompt >> That crowd listening to that prompt engineer guy is not us. engineer guy is not us. engineer guy is not us. >> People trying to buy French fries at >> People trying to buy French fries at >> People trying to buy French fries at McDonald's and, you know, feed their McDonald's and, you know, feed their McDonald's and, you know, feed their family. You know, family. You know, family. You know, >> bring it back cuz Pete's the leader with >> bring it back cuz Pete's the leader with >> bring it back cuz Pete's the leader with all this kind of stuff. Make sure when all this kind of stuff. Make sure when all this kind of stuff. Make sure when you go to In-N-Out Burger, you say you you go to In-N-Out Burger, you say you you go to In-N-Out Burger, you say you order your fries well. order your fries well. order your fries well. >> Well, not good. >> Well, not good. >> Well, not good. >> That That'll get them crispy. >> That That'll get them crispy. >> That That'll get them crispy. >> Crisp them up. >> Crisp them up. >> Crisp them up. >> Everybody talks about Oh, the fries >> Everybody talks about Oh, the fries >> Everybody talks about Oh, the fries there where they peel them every morning there where they peel them every morning there where they peel them every morning and it's fresh everything. But you know and it's fresh everything. But you know and it's fresh everything. But you know what? If they're not crisp, I'm not a what? If they're not crisp, I'm not a what? If they're not crisp, I'm not a fan, you know. fan, you know. fan, you know. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. I also found out that >> Yeah. Yeah. I also found out that >> Yeah. Yeah. I also found out that Chick-fil-A, you can say extra, you Chick-fil-A, you can say extra, you Chick-fil-A, you can say extra, you know, they have their waffle fries at know, they have their waffle fries at know, they have their waffle fries at Chick-fil-A. Extra crispy. You say that Chick-fil-A. Extra crispy. You say that Chick-fil-A. Extra crispy. You say that and all of a sudden magic happens. and all of a sudden magic happens. and all of a sudden magic happens. >> Secret menu. Secret menu. >> Secret menu. Secret menu. >> Secret menu. Secret menu. >> It's a secret menu. The world's more >> It's a secret menu. The world's more >> It's a secret menu. The world's more focused on finding out secret menus than focused on finding out secret menus than focused on finding out secret menus than they are about AS6 or what kind of AI is they are about AS6 or what kind of AI is they are about AS6 or what kind of AI is going to end their life as they know it.

going to end their life as they know it. going to end their life as they know it. you know, are are enough people starting you know, are are enough people starting you know, are are enough people starting to to to kind of say what we talk about sometimes kind of say what we talk about sometimes kind of say what we talk about sometimes around, you know, is all this AI stuff around, you know, is all this AI stuff around, you know, is all this AI stuff we're doing similar to we're doing similar to we're doing similar to species suicide or something like that? I I I I I I I I don't I don't think people think that don't I don't think people think that don't I don't think people think that far, far, far, >> okay? because it's just u Yeah. >> okay? because it's just u Yeah. >> okay? because it's just u Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I was um >> I was um >> I was um I was I was you back to your point of I was I was you back to your point of I was I was you back to your point of you are my fries crispy. you are my fries crispy. you are my fries crispy. >> I was in Vegas this week uh for a >> I was in Vegas this week uh for a >> I was in Vegas this week uh for a because I I work for a company that does because I I work for a company that does because I I work for a company that does aerial imaging right now and digital aerial imaging right now and digital aerial imaging right now and digital twins of properties. So the use case are twins of properties. So the use case are twins of properties. So the use case are you know in construction insurance. So I you know in construction insurance. So I you know in construction insurance. So I I basically spend by week with people I basically spend by week with people I basically spend by week with people doing roofing. So doing roofing. So doing roofing. So >> look at the real stuff. >> look at the real stuff. >> look at the real stuff. >> Yeah. And actually there is an appetite >> Yeah. And actually there is an appetite >> Yeah. And actually there is an appetite for technology uh beyond just the for technology uh beyond just the for technology uh beyond just the automation of the machinery which is not automation of the machinery which is not automation of the machinery which is not the area I was looking for but there's the area I was looking for but there's the area I was looking for but there's an appetite for technology in the area an appetite for technology in the area an appetite for technology in the area of of CRM lead generation you know I'm of of CRM lead generation you know I'm of of CRM lead generation you know I'm doing this roof for this customer in doing this roof for this customer in doing this roof for this customer in this area how do I get more customers this area how do I get more customers this area how do I get more customers >> yeah yeah >> yeah yeah >> yeah yeah >> one area and the other area is what we >> one area and the other area is what we >> one area and the other area is what we do which is more measurements you know do which is more measurements you know do which is more measurements you know so I can actually prospect or do quotes so I can actually prospect or do quotes so I can actually prospect or do quotes without leaving my office because I'm without leaving my office because I'm without leaving my office because I'm just using imagery type of stuff just using imagery type of stuff just using imagery type of stuff >> right >> right >> right >> and if I want to do a quote, I can super >> and if I want to do a quote, I can super >> and if I want to do a quote, I can super quickly do it because in the past you quickly do it because in the past you quickly do it because in the past you have to send a guy on the roof with a

have to send a guy on the roof with a have to send a guy on the roof with a ruler. Uh now you can actually have all ruler. Uh now you can actually have all ruler. Uh now you can actually have all the dimension and uh and we also have the dimension and uh and we also have the dimension and uh and we also have data sets where you can actually do uh data sets where you can actually do uh data sets where you can actually do uh hey give you an estimate of the of the hey give you an estimate of the of the hey give you an estimate of the of the of the age of this roof you know what of the age of this roof you know what of the age of this roof you know what are the materials are there solar panels are the materials are there solar panels are the materials are there solar panels all those kind of property data all those kind of property data all those kind of property data intelligence and these are digital intelligence and these are digital intelligence and these are digital twins. Now, we don't market that at twins. Now, we don't market that at twins. Now, we don't market that at digital twins to this audience because digital twins to this audience because digital twins to this audience because they don't necessarily have a great they don't necessarily have a great they don't necessarily have a great appetite for gizmo tech, appetite for gizmo tech, appetite for gizmo tech, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Yeah. And in this area, I mean, yeah, >> Yeah. And in this area, I mean, yeah, >> Yeah. And in this area, I mean, yeah, there was a there was mostly the AI there was a there was mostly the AI there was a there was mostly the AI message was mostly on the the the the message was mostly on the the the the message was mostly on the the the the CRM system, you know, I'm going to give CRM system, you know, I'm going to give CRM system, you know, I'm going to give you more leads and using AI blah blah you more leads and using AI blah blah you more leads and using AI blah blah blah blah. But uh yeah, blah blah. But uh yeah, blah blah. But uh yeah, >> it was not you know AI everywhere like >> it was not you know AI everywhere like >> it was not you know AI everywhere like >> right >> right >> right >> you go in the tech show. So as soon as >> you go in the tech show. So as soon as >> you go in the tech show. So as soon as you get into the reality it obviously you get into the reality it obviously you get into the reality it obviously depends on the industries but uh but I depends on the industries but uh but I depends on the industries but uh but I was was was >> interesting. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> It's pretty refreshing. So >> It's pretty refreshing. So >> It's pretty refreshing. So >> that's kind of cool. >> that's kind of cool. >> that's kind of cool. >> Technology tech. Yeah it was actually >> Technology tech. Yeah it was actually >> Technology tech. Yeah it was actually interesting because you had interesting because you had interesting because you had international roofing expo you had international roofing expo you had international roofing expo you had concrete world. You had shot show and concrete world. You had shot show and concrete world. You had shot show and you had ADN at the same time in Vegas.

you had ADN at the same time in Vegas. you had ADN at the same time in Vegas. So pretty much I mean it was only needed So pretty much I mean it was only needed So pretty much I mean it was only needed needing a kind of of of a booze and food needing a kind of of of a booze and food needing a kind of of of a booze and food show and you'll cover the whole show and you'll cover the whole show and you'll cover the whole essentials of humanity. essentials of humanity. essentials of humanity. >> Absolutely. You've got all of humanity >> Absolutely. You've got all of humanity >> Absolutely. You've got all of humanity covered there. Everything that people covered there. Everything that people covered there. Everything that people want. I love it. That's hilarious. want. I love it. That's hilarious. want. I love it. That's hilarious. >> I was I was joking with that on my Uber >> I was I was joking with that on my Uber >> I was I was joking with that on my Uber driver on the way back to the airport driver on the way back to the airport driver on the way back to the airport and they were saying, "Oh yeah, it's and they were saying, "Oh yeah, it's and they were saying, "Oh yeah, it's just food and booze is missing. just food and booze is missing. just food and booze is missing. Otherwise, that would be the perfect Otherwise, that would be the perfect Otherwise, that would be the perfect week to week to week to >> Exactly. Imagine aliens coming in to >> Exactly. Imagine aliens coming in to >> Exactly. Imagine aliens coming in to Vegas this week and say construction Vegas this week and say construction Vegas this week and say construction guns sexy. guns sexy. guns sexy. >> Byebye. We're out of here. Oh my god. >> Byebye. We're out of here. Oh my god. >> Byebye. We're out of here. Oh my god. >> And I think I and then I'm going to >> And I think I and then I'm going to >> And I think I and then I'm going to stop. So it's the debit show, but I stop. So it's the debit show, but I stop. So it's the debit show, but I think I said that already on the show. think I said that already on the show. think I said that already on the show. My personal view on aliens has always My personal view on aliens has always My personal view on aliens has always been that if there is a civilization been that if there is a civilization been that if there is a civilization that is smart enough and has the tech to that is smart enough and has the tech to that is smart enough and has the tech to reach earth look at it going to turn reach earth look at it going to turn reach earth look at it going to turn away like bye-bye. Yeah. away like bye-bye. Yeah. away like bye-bye. Yeah. >> 2000 years to see if you >> 2000 years to see if you >> 2000 years to see if you >> Exactly. Exactly. But then so but if we >> Exactly. Exactly. But then so but if we >> Exactly. Exactly. But then so but if we think about some of the other types of think about some of the other types of think about some of the other types of science fiction movies with aliens, science fiction movies with aliens, science fiction movies with aliens, there's all the other kind that are just there's all the other kind that are just there's all the other kind that are just going from planet to planet to use all going from planet to planet to use all going from planet to planet to use all the resources.

the resources. the resources. And so those might say, "Well, we'll And so those might say, "Well, we'll And so those might say, "Well, we'll just kill all these people and then take just kill all these people and then take just kill all these people and then take their water and whatever way else we their water and whatever way else we their water and whatever way else we want." want." want." >> But but but they're too late because I >> But but but they're too late because I >> But but but they're too late because I think the visions, one of the Musk's think the visions, one of the Musk's think the visions, one of the Musk's visions or the others is where we're visions or the others is where we're visions or the others is where we're going to have to go to other planets to going to have to go to other planets to going to have to go to other planets to find those resources. Oh yeah, find those resources. Oh yeah, find those resources. Oh yeah, >> we've already exhausted our own. So is >> we've already exhausted our own. So is >> we've already exhausted our own. So is that No, they burn everything. Too much that No, they burn everything. Too much that No, they burn everything. Too much CO2. CO2. CO2. >> Yeah, exactly. You polluted the water. >> Yeah, exactly. You polluted the water. >> Yeah, exactly. You polluted the water. We don't Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, We don't Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, We don't Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, it's interesting though, and we probably it's interesting though, and we probably it's interesting though, and we probably talked about this before, you know, you talked about this before, you know, you talked about this before, you know, you always hear like, okay, we'll go like always hear like, okay, we'll go like always hear like, okay, we'll go like Elon, we'll go colonize Mars. We need to Elon, we'll go colonize Mars. We need to Elon, we'll go colonize Mars. We need to be an interplanetary species to survive. be an interplanetary species to survive. be an interplanetary species to survive. Okay. Okay. Okay. There's that one problem though that There's that one problem though that There's that one problem though that almost no I mean we talk about how almost no I mean we talk about how almost no I mean we talk about how people really don't know the kind of people really don't know the kind of people really don't know the kind of stuff we talk about. People don't stuff we talk about. People don't stuff we talk about. People don't realize that if your planet does not realize that if your planet does not realize that if your planet does not have a magnetic field you will not be have a magnetic field you will not be have a magnetic field you will not be able to live there. And Mars and many able to live there. And Mars and many able to live there. And Mars and many other planets do not have a magnetic other planets do not have a magnetic other planets do not have a magnetic field at all. And that the only way you field at all. And that the only way you field at all. And that the only way you get to have an atmosphere and you get to get to have an atmosphere and you get to get to have an atmosphere and you get to have a shield from radiation from the have a shield from radiation from the have a shield from radiation from the sun and all that is by having a magnetic sun and all that is by having a magnetic sun and all that is by having a magnetic field. Somehow magically we do. We field. Somehow magically we do. We field. Somehow magically we do. We theorize that there's an iron core at theorize that there's an iron core at theorize that there's an iron core at the core of our planet spinning somehow.

the core of our planet spinning somehow. the core of our planet spinning somehow. We haven't actually seen it but we We haven't actually seen it but we We haven't actually seen it but we figure that must be how we have a figure that must be how we have a figure that must be how we have a magnetic field. magnetic field. magnetic field. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What what are your thoughts? >> What what are your thoughts? >> What what are your thoughts? >> Well, >> Well, >> Well, I don't know. I think the the there's a I don't know. I think the the there's a I don't know. I think the the there's a lot of I would say that there's there's lot of I would say that there's there's lot of I would say that there's there's probably a lot of human aspiration or probably a lot of human aspiration or probably a lot of human aspiration or visions that are not necessarily backed visions that are not necessarily backed visions that are not necessarily backed by any science by any science by any science >> yeah >> yeah >> yeah in this in this whole idea I don't in this in this whole idea I don't in this in this whole idea I don't really know exactly I mean this I agree really know exactly I mean this I agree really know exactly I mean this I agree with you this whole theory that by the with you this whole theory that by the with you this whole theory that by the way there's also the the just your rope way there's also the the just your rope way there's also the the just your rope you and I the little argument about that you and I the little argument about that you and I the little argument about that you know regarding putting data center you know regarding putting data center you know regarding putting data center in space in space in space >> the cost the cost of sending some [ __ ] >> the cost the cost of sending some [ __ ] >> the cost the cost of sending some [ __ ] out up is still so high even if we out up is still so high even if we out up is still so high even if we divide it by 100 divide it by 100 divide it by 100 >> it's still impossible to do so thinking >> it's still impossible to do so thinking >> it's still impossible to do so thinking that we are going to be able to send and that we are going to be able to send and that we are going to be able to send and export enough technology to be able to export enough technology to be able to export enough technology to be able to build technology there to be able to build technology there to be able to build technology there to be able to change things I mean yeah it is science change things I mean yeah it is science change things I mean yeah it is science fiction so it is science fiction fiction so it is science fiction fiction so it is science fiction >> but you could send your new Raspberry Pi >> but you could send your new Raspberry Pi >> but you could send your new Raspberry Pi AI hat AI hat AI hat >> yeah it's true but this is not going to >> yeah it's true but this is not going to >> yeah it's true but this is not going to create a magnetic field on Mars or if create a magnetic field on Mars or if create a magnetic field on Mars or if somebody if somebody finds a way to somebody if somebody finds a way to somebody if somebody finds a way to create a magnific but uh no I think that to me this this but uh no I think that to me this this kind of aspiration I mean there are only kind of aspiration I mean there are only kind of aspiration I mean there are only two ways for this kind of aspiration to two ways for this kind of aspiration to two ways for this kind of aspiration to conquer space one is purely for research conquer space one is purely for research conquer space one is purely for research and science and I admire that I'm still

and science and I admire that I'm still and science and I admire that I'm still fascinating by I think Ver Voyager is fascinating by I think Ver Voyager is fascinating by I think Ver Voyager is still flying and sending still flying and sending still flying and sending >> yeah it's amazing >> yeah it's amazing >> yeah it's amazing >> yeah and and it doesn't have the kind of >> yeah and and it doesn't have the kind of >> yeah and and it doesn't have the kind of freaking GPU that freaking GPU that freaking GPU that >> right >> right >> right >> yeah is trying to sell us right >> yeah is trying to sell us right >> yeah is trying to sell us right >> so there's like a there's a like a >> so there's like a there's a like a >> so there's like a there's a like a lesson there because we often talk about lesson there because we often talk about lesson there because we often talk about how is it possible that the peak of our how is it possible that the peak of our how is it possible that the peak of our science and our abilities happened science and our abilities happened science and our abilities happened already like in the '60s maybe or already like in the '60s maybe or already like in the '60s maybe or something or the '7s you know um like something or the '7s you know um like something or the '7s you know um like cuz people complain all like we did all cuz people complain all like we did all cuz people complain all like we did all these amazing things back then and we these amazing things back then and we these amazing things back then and we haven't really done anything that haven't really done anything that haven't really done anything that monumental ever since um monumental ever since um monumental ever since um >> yeah we we've scaled because the the >> yeah we we've scaled because the the >> yeah we we've scaled because the the thing is the following. You know, you thing is the following. You know, you thing is the following. You know, you can only have big changes when you have can only have big changes when you have can only have big changes when you have a better understanding of physics and we a better understanding of physics and we a better understanding of physics and we had a better understanding of the had a better understanding of the had a better understanding of the physics with quantum physics in the physics with quantum physics in the physics with quantum physics in the beginning of the 19th century and the beginning of the 19th century and the beginning of the 19th century and the 20s 20s 40s. 20s 20s 40s. 20s 20s 40s. >> This what gave us the foundation so that >> This what gave us the foundation so that >> This what gave us the foundation so that we can build all the digital crap we we can build all the digital crap we we can build all the digital crap we have today. So then it was just scaling. have today. So then it was just scaling. have today. So then it was just scaling. So unless there is a new jump into our So unless there is a new jump into our So unless there is a new jump into our understanding of science and the only understanding of science and the only understanding of science and the only plausible one to me when I think about plausible one to me when I think about plausible one to me when I think about it today is in our is in DNA is in the it today is in our is in DNA is in the it today is in our is in DNA is in the way our in the way you know life is way our in the way you know life is way our in the way you know life is programmed basically.

programmed basically. programmed basically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you make an extra jump on that then >> If you make an extra jump on that then >> If you make an extra jump on that then there can be colossal implication on there can be colossal implication on there can be colossal implication on genetic manipulation age reversing all genetic manipulation age reversing all genetic manipulation age reversing all this kind of stuff. But aside from that, this kind of stuff. But aside from that, this kind of stuff. But aside from that, you could argue that, yeah, everything you could argue that, yeah, everything you could argue that, yeah, everything was invented before and now it's just was invented before and now it's just was invented before and now it's just scaling, so we do more and more and scaling, so we do more and more and scaling, so we do more and more and faster and cheaper and blah. But faster and cheaper and blah. But faster and cheaper and blah. But fundamentally, it's still the same fundamentally, it's still the same fundamentally, it's still the same things. things. things. >> Right. Right. Cuz you hear people all >> Right. Right. Cuz you hear people all >> Right. Right. Cuz you hear people all the time like we put a man on the moon the time like we put a man on the moon the time like we put a man on the moon in 1969. in 1969. in 1969. We haven't done anything close to that We haven't done anything close to that We haven't done anything close to that ever since. ever since. ever since. >> Yeah. Totally. And because the the the >> Yeah. Totally. And because the the the >> Yeah. Totally. And because the the the the as I would say that anything close the as I would say that anything close the as I would say that anything close in a sense that it was not just the tech in a sense that it was not just the tech in a sense that it was not just the tech but it was the motivation of a whole but it was the motivation of a whole but it was the motivation of a whole nation and the embracement by the nation and the embracement by the nation and the embracement by the public. public. public. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There hasn't been any event like that >> There hasn't been any event like that >> There hasn't been any event like that any or any any human artifact any or any any human artifact any or any any human artifact construction like that since then. So I construction like that since then. So I construction like that since then. So I always I have to refer to that. So the always I have to refer to that. So the always I have to refer to that. So the first point was research and uh and uh first point was research and uh and uh first point was research and uh and uh and exploration. The second one ego. and exploration. The second one ego. and exploration. The second one ego. >> Ego. Yeah. Yeah. We humans, we think >> Ego. Yeah. Yeah. We humans, we think >> Ego. Yeah. Yeah. We humans, we think we're the best creation on the earth. On we're the best creation on the earth. On we're the best creation on the earth. On the world, the world, the world, >> that's right.

>> that's right. >> that's right. >> I'm going to climb I'm going to climb >> I'm going to climb I'm going to climb >> I'm going to climb I'm going to climb Mount Everest and now I'm going to go to Mount Everest and now I'm going to go to Mount Everest and now I'm going to go to the moon and I'm going to go to Mars and the moon and I'm going to go to Mars and the moon and I'm going to go to Mars and it's ego it's ego it's ego >> re I mean science or ego. So I think >> re I mean science or ego. So I think >> re I mean science or ego. So I think that but but on the other hand do I that but but on the other hand do I that but but on the other hand do I don't think there's any don't think there's any don't think there's any >> or or maybe I don't understand but I >> or or maybe I don't understand but I >> or or maybe I don't understand but I don't think there's any valid argument don't think there's any valid argument don't think there's any valid argument of you know I would say the uh uh uh of you know I would say the uh uh uh of you know I would say the uh uh uh practical or economical value to go and practical or economical value to go and practical or economical value to go and conquer new planets. I think we should conquer new planets. I think we should conquer new planets. I think we should do it for science. I have no question do it for science. I have no question do it for science. I have no question about it. about it. about it. >> I don't think that we necessarily need >> I don't think that we necessarily need >> I don't think that we necessarily need to send humans there because we enough to send humans there because we enough to send humans there because we enough automation systems to go learn a lot automation systems to go learn a lot automation systems to go learn a lot without that. Yeah. So, without that. Yeah. So, without that. Yeah. So, >> if it's for science or if we become the >> if it's for science or if we become the >> if it's for science or if we become the aliens that are aliens that are aliens that are >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> going from planet to planet grabbing >> going from planet to planet grabbing >> going from planet to planet grabbing resources because I could see that resources because I could see that resources because I could see that happening a little bit. I mean, happening a little bit. I mean, happening a little bit. I mean, >> there's two there's two scenarios for >> there's two there's two scenarios for >> there's two there's two scenarios for that. I think that I don't remember. Oh, that. I think that I don't remember. Oh, that. I think that I don't remember. Oh, is it I think it was one of the Superman is it I think it was one of the Superman is it I think it was one of the Superman movie, but the one of the science movie, but the one of the science movie, but the one of the science fiction movie where actually we start fiction movie where actually we start fiction movie where actually we start digging deep down into our own earth digging deep down into our own earth digging deep down into our own earth to go really deep into the core and get to go really deep into the core and get to go really deep into the core and get some more material. I think this some more material. I think this some more material. I think this scenario is much more likely because for scenario is much more likely because for scenario is much more likely because for a reason for cost. So we we still have a a reason for cost. So we we still have a a reason for cost. So we we still have a lot of time before we find any lot of time before we find any lot of time before we find any meaningful way to go get some resources meaningful way to go get some resources meaningful way to go get some resources from another planet. I hear a lot about, from another planet. I hear a lot about, from another planet. I hear a lot about, oh, we think or we know that there's oh, we think or we know that there's oh, we think or we know that there's water at the south pole of the moon. And water at the south pole of the moon. And water at the south pole of the moon. And if or frozen. Um and then if that and if

if or frozen. Um and then if that and if if or frozen. Um and then if that and if that's true then they extrapolate they that's true then they extrapolate they that's true then they extrapolate they go good cuz then we can get hydrogen and go good cuz then we can get hydrogen and go good cuz then we can get hydrogen and then we can that can be a launch to to then we can that can be a launch to to then we can that can be a launch to to build our hydroine you know that we use build our hydroine you know that we use build our hydroine you know that we use for rocket fuel and then we can use that for rocket fuel and then we can use that for rocket fuel and then we can use that as the launching off point to other as the launching off point to other as the launching off point to other planets or something planets or something planets or something >> but I mean have a look at the >> but I mean have a look at the >> but I mean have a look at the probabilities but you the the other probabilities but you the the other probabilities but you the the other point as you said of having your a point as you said of having your a point as you said of having your a magnetic field that allows it to have an magnetic field that allows it to have an magnetic field that allows it to have an atmosphere is that when you don't have atmosphere is that when you don't have atmosphere is that when you don't have any atmosphere. Whatever you build, if any atmosphere. Whatever you build, if any atmosphere. Whatever you build, if there's a freaking meteorites that come there's a freaking meteorites that come there's a freaking meteorites that come around, even the little one is going to around, even the little one is going to around, even the little one is going to break your freaking things. So, we're break your freaking things. So, we're break your freaking things. So, we're going to be those big plants that going to be those big plants that going to be those big plants that generate that and tiny little rock that generate that and tiny little rock that generate that and tiny little rock that come from whatever, come from whatever, come from whatever, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I mean, look at the number of crater on >> I mean, look at the number of crater on >> I mean, look at the number of crater on the moon on Mars. the moon on Mars. the moon on Mars. >> Uh so, yeah, good luck building your >> Uh so, yeah, good luck building your >> Uh so, yeah, good luck building your data center and nuclear power plant on data center and nuclear power plant on data center and nuclear power plant on top of that and making it work for more top of that and making it work for more top of that and making it work for more than 20. I mean, again, I have done the than 20. I mean, again, I have done the than 20. I mean, again, I have done the math, but I think that the the math, but I think that the the math, but I think that the the probabilities are probably there to show probabilities are probably there to show probabilities are probably there to show you that there's a sing there's a super you that there's a sing there's a super you that there's a sing there's a super risk. So, what you have to do, put a risk. So, what you have to do, put a risk. So, what you have to do, put a dome on top of it. I mean, it doesn't dome on top of it. I mean, it doesn't dome on top of it. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, if you don't make any sense. I mean, if you don't make any sense. I mean, if you don't find planets who have the same kind of find planets who have the same kind of find planets who have the same kind of atmosphere like us that are protected atmosphere like us that are protected atmosphere like us that are protected and protect their own resources.

and protect their own resources. and protect their own resources. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you even find them, how do you get >> If you even find them, how do you get >> If you even find them, how do you get there? Because when you approach the there? Because when you approach the there? Because when you approach the planet, that big ship that's going to go planet, that big ship that's going to go planet, that big ship that's going to go get the resources need to go through the get the resources need to go through the get the resources need to go through the atmosphere and it's going to need a atmosphere and it's going to need a atmosphere and it's going to need a gigantic field. Imagine if you want to gigantic field. Imagine if you want to gigantic field. Imagine if you want to bring back one metric ton of of a of a bring back one metric ton of of a of a bring back one metric ton of of a of a lithium lithium lithium >> from a planet with an atmosphere getting >> from a planet with an atmosphere getting >> from a planet with an atmosphere getting there first with the ship to get it, there first with the ship to get it, there first with the ship to get it, >> right? Then you have to send it back and >> right? Then you have to send it back and >> right? Then you have to send it back and receive it back because actually putting receive it back because actually putting receive it back because actually putting stuff in space is now that I think about stuff in space is now that I think about stuff in space is now that I think about it, it is expensive, but it's not that it, it is expensive, but it's not that it, it is expensive, but it's not that hard. It's bringing the stuff back that hard. It's bringing the stuff back that hard. It's bringing the stuff back that is a problem. is a problem. is a problem. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Yeah, you're right. >> You bring the stuff back. >> You bring the stuff back. >> You bring the stuff back. >> Now, if it's raw material, maybe you can >> Now, if it's raw material, maybe you can >> Now, if it's raw material, maybe you can just throw it and it will burn and then just throw it and it will burn and then just throw it and it will burn and then it would come down and cool down. But it would come down and cool down. But it would come down and cool down. But temperature has an effect on material if temperature has an effect on material if temperature has an effect on material if you know science. you know science. you know science. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That's true. So, you know, the other thing I hear So, you know, the other thing I hear So, you know, the other thing I hear about, you know, our friends at Blue about, you know, our friends at Blue about, you know, our friends at Blue Origin, their whole mission statement or Origin, their whole mission statement or Origin, their whole mission statement or whatever, their tagline is for the whatever, their tagline is for the whatever, their tagline is for the benefit of the Earth. And they're benefit of the Earth. And they're benefit of the Earth. And they're thinking is thinking is thinking is Oh, Pete's coming in here. Hang on.

Oh, Pete's coming in here. Hang on. Oh, Pete's coming in here. Hang on. >> So, Blue Origin, is that the the Bezos >> So, Blue Origin, is that the the Bezos >> So, Blue Origin, is that the the Bezos thing? thing? thing? >> Yeah. So, Blue Origin, they're the ones >> Yeah. So, Blue Origin, they're the ones >> Yeah. So, Blue Origin, they're the ones that have been sending rockets up in that have been sending rockets up in that have been sending rockets up in West Texas with celebrities, people just West Texas with celebrities, people just West Texas with celebrities, people just to go for a ride, and then to go for a ride, and then to go for a ride, and then >> this is not space. This is high altitude >> this is not space. This is high altitude >> this is not space. This is high altitude elevation. elevation. elevation. >> No, no, no. I I get it. But but that was >> No, no, no. I I get it. But but that was >> No, no, no. I I get it. But but that was their stepping stone. But they have they their stepping stone. But they have they their stepping stone. But they have they built their larger rocket called New built their larger rocket called New built their larger rocket called New Glenn and they've done a couple launches Glenn and they've done a couple launches Glenn and they've done a couple launches and they're sending something out for a and they're sending something out for a and they're sending something out for a deal to Mars. I know about them cuz I've deal to Mars. I know about them cuz I've deal to Mars. I know about them cuz I've spent time at their headquarters in spent time at their headquarters in spent time at their headquarters in Kent, Washington, and know some of their Kent, Washington, and know some of their Kent, Washington, and know some of their people, but their big their mission people, but their big their mission people, but their big their mission though is for the benefit of the Earth. though is for the benefit of the Earth. though is for the benefit of the Earth. And what they're thinking, one of the And what they're thinking, one of the And what they're thinking, one of the things they want to build is they call things they want to build is they call things they want to build is they call it an orbital reef. And basically it's it an orbital reef. And basically it's it an orbital reef. And basically it's some kind of orbiting thing. They what some kind of orbiting thing. They what some kind of orbiting thing. They what they say is we should you know how we they say is we should you know how we they say is we should you know how we talk about zoning laws for cities or talk about zoning laws for cities or talk about zoning laws for cities or whatever this zone commercial this zone whatever this zone commercial this zone whatever this zone commercial this zone res. They're like we need to zone the res. They're like we need to zone the res. They're like we need to zone the earth as residential and then build earth as residential and then build earth as residential and then build stuff off world either orbiting or on stuff off world either orbiting or on stuff off world either orbiting or on the moon or whatever for heavy industry the moon or whatever for heavy industry the moon or whatever for heavy industry instead of doing heavy industry on the instead of doing heavy industry on the instead of doing heavy industry on the planet. Um, and so that's kind of part planet. Um, and so that's kind of part planet. Um, and so that's kind of part of their plan is building this orbital of their plan is building this orbital of their plan is building this orbital to reef to try to do manufacturing in to reef to try to do manufacturing in to reef to try to do manufacturing in orbit, orbit, orbit, you know.

you know. you know. >> Yeah. I mean, in theory, great idea, but >> Yeah. I mean, in theory, great idea, but >> Yeah. I mean, in theory, great idea, but I really would like to see the the the I really would like to see the the the I really would like to see the the the the beam counter spreadsheet behind the beam counter spreadsheet behind the beam counter spreadsheet behind because again the cost of study as we because again the cost of study as we because again the cost of study as we said just said the cost of studying s up said just said the cost of studying s up said just said the cost of studying s up and the complexity back. and the complexity back. and the complexity back. I mean how realistic is I mean how realistic is I mean how realistic is >> well yeah manufacturing is all based on >> well yeah manufacturing is all based on >> well yeah manufacturing is all based on cost so uh cost so uh cost so uh >> yeah because >> yeah because >> yeah because >> it makes a lot of sense I mean uh >> it makes a lot of sense I mean uh >> it makes a lot of sense I mean uh outside of that framework but that's outside of that framework but that's outside of that framework but that's >> so you rejoin Pete Rob and I was we we >> so you rejoin Pete Rob and I was we we >> so you rejoin Pete Rob and I was we we should probably talk about the space the should probably talk about the space the should probably talk about the space the space episode but but we were discussing space episode but but we were discussing space episode but but we were discussing that you know it's okay you send some that you know it's okay you send some that you know it's okay you send some stuff up you have your factory and stuff up you have your factory and stuff up you have your factory and you've built this two tons machine how you've built this two tons machine how you've built this two tons machine how do you bring it back how do you do you bring it back how do you do you bring it back how do you >> look at goods How do you have a How do >> look at goods How do you have a How do >> look at goods How do you have a How do you have a ship that is strong enough you have a ship that is strong enough you have a ship that is strong enough and resistant to heat enough to reenter and resistant to heat enough to reenter and resistant to heat enough to reenter the atmosphere? the atmosphere? the atmosphere? >> You need some kind of space shuttle or >> You need some kind of space shuttle or >> You need some kind of space shuttle or something. something. something. >> Yeah. No, but but the shuttle wouldn't >> Yeah. No, but but the shuttle wouldn't >> Yeah. No, but but the shuttle wouldn't do it because you see what happened to do it because you see what happened to do it because you see what happened to the space shuttle and the the space shuttle and the the space shuttle and the >> land like an airplane and then take >> land like an airplane and then take >> land like an airplane and then take >> what?

>> what? >> what? >> Yeah, but you remember the cost of that, >> Yeah, but you remember the cost of that, >> Yeah, but you remember the cost of that, the ties, the burn, and even what is the the ties, the burn, and even what is the the ties, the burn, and even what is the working load of that? It was what, like working load of that? It was what, like working load of that? It was what, like maybe a couple of maybe a couple of maybe a couple of >> It was that was ahead of its time, but I >> It was that was ahead of its time, but I >> It was that was ahead of its time, but I don't know. I I assume someone's going don't know. I I assume someone's going don't know. I I assume someone's going to figure out a lowcost kind of payload. to figure out a lowcost kind of payload. to figure out a lowcost kind of payload. >> It's going be a lot cheaper to send >> It's going be a lot cheaper to send >> It's going be a lot cheaper to send stuff to Earth than to get stuff out stuff to Earth than to get stuff out stuff to Earth than to get stuff out there. I bet uh cuz you just need to there. I bet uh cuz you just need to there. I bet uh cuz you just need to sort of shove you just need to shove in sort of shove you just need to shove in sort of shove you just need to shove in the right direction until you sort of the right direction until you sort of the right direction until you sort of get into uh the atmosphere and then it's get into uh the atmosphere and then it's get into uh the atmosphere and then it's it's a big parachute and someone goes it's a big parachute and someone goes it's a big parachute and someone goes scoots it out of the ocean, I guess. I scoots it out of the ocean, I guess. I scoots it out of the ocean, I guess. I think think think >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Speaking of someone who knows absolutely >> Speaking of someone who knows absolutely >> Speaking of someone who knows absolutely nothing about this. nothing about this. nothing about this. >> Yeah. Well, it it's a lot when something >> Yeah. Well, it it's a lot when something >> Yeah. Well, it it's a lot when something >> Everyone in the comments that's actually >> Everyone in the comments that's actually >> Everyone in the comments that's actually an aerospace engineer can say an aerospace engineer can say an aerospace engineer can say >> that's right. totally full of crap. >> that's right. totally full of crap. >> that's right. totally full of crap. >> But you know what? Gosh, you know, it it >> But you know what? Gosh, you know, it it >> But you know what? Gosh, you know, it it starts with an idea and you you have the starts with an idea and you you have the starts with an idea and you you have the idea in your head and you you say it to idea in your head and you you say it to idea in your head and you you say it to yourself. You write it down. You tell yourself. You write it down. You tell yourself. You write it down. You tell people about it and and then Dimmitri people about it and and then Dimmitri people about it and and then Dimmitri totally shoots it down. totally shoots it down. totally shoots it down. >> Yeah. Um >> Yeah. Um >> Yeah. Um >> you get pillery. Totally pillar. >> you get pillery. Totally pillar. >> you get pillery. Totally pillar. >> Guys, I love ideas, but I'd like to see >> Guys, I love ideas, but I'd like to see >> Guys, I love ideas, but I'd like to see a reasonable a reasonable a reasonable science-based path.

science-based path. science-based path. >> Sure. Sure. Well, I'm sure they so the >> Sure. Sure. Well, I'm sure they so the >> Sure. Sure. Well, I'm sure they so the issue measures cost, but you know, the issue measures cost, but you know, the issue measures cost, but you know, the idea of pushing out eminent domain, you idea of pushing out eminent domain, you idea of pushing out eminent domain, you know, to a reef, you know, you could know, to a reef, you know, you could know, to a reef, you know, you could even call it like Trump land, you know, even call it like Trump land, you know, even call it like Trump land, you know, it's kind of a a new it's kind of a a new it's kind of a a new >> that's how you're going to get the >> that's how you're going to get the >> that's how you're going to get the funding for it is if you call it Trump funding for it is if you call it Trump funding for it is if you call it Trump land. land. land. >> It's a continent in space >> It's a continent in space >> It's a continent in space uh for specifically for mining and uh uh for specifically for mining and uh uh for specifically for mining and uh processing of of precious metals. processing of of precious metals. processing of of precious metals. I think we should probably make more I think we should probably make more I think we should probably make more like a very nice luxury hotel for all like a very nice luxury hotel for all like a very nice luxury hotel for all the the the >> That could be a section that could be a >> That could be a section that could be a >> That could be a section that could be a section of the section of the section of the >> sendermont you know the Fairmont or >> sendermont you know the Fairmont or >> sendermont you know the Fairmont or section section section >> and send them there with no way to >> and send them there with no way to >> and send them there with no way to return but return but return but >> well but I've also heard so we've talked >> well but I've also heard so we've talked >> well but I've also heard so we've talked about orbital reef doing manufacturing about orbital reef doing manufacturing about orbital reef doing manufacturing in orbit. We talked about the moon. Um, in orbit. We talked about the moon. Um, in orbit. We talked about the moon. Um, like we were saying earlier, they think like we were saying earlier, they think like we were saying earlier, they think there's ice on the south pole of the there's ice on the south pole of the there's ice on the south pole of the moon and they'll melt that and that's moon and they'll melt that and that's moon and they'll melt that and that's water and then they can get hydrogen water and then they can get hydrogen water and then they can get hydrogen which can be used for fuel for more which can be used for fuel for more which can be used for fuel for more rockets launching from the moon outward.

rockets launching from the moon outward. rockets launching from the moon outward. Um, Um, Um, also I've heard about startups or also I've heard about startups or also I've heard about startups or companies that want to mine asteroids. companies that want to mine asteroids. companies that want to mine asteroids. >> Yeah. Isn't Bruce Willis involved in >> Yeah. Isn't Bruce Willis involved in >> Yeah. Isn't Bruce Willis involved in that? that? that? >> Yeah, he was. He was >> Yeah, he was. He was >> Yeah, he was. He was >> a drill. That idea is never die. That idea is never die. >> You know what? >> You know what? >> You know what? >> No, I think I think eventually you'll >> No, I think I think eventually you'll >> No, I think I think eventually you'll have like robotic probes that'll land on have like robotic probes that'll land on have like robotic probes that'll land on these asteroids, extract, you know, these asteroids, extract, you know, these asteroids, extract, you know, precious minerals and whatever and then precious minerals and whatever and then precious minerals and whatever and then shoot themselves into the atmosphere shoot themselves into the atmosphere shoot themselves into the atmosphere with their payloads and they'll be with their payloads and they'll be with their payloads and they'll be sweeped out of the ocean. sweeped out of the ocean. sweeped out of the ocean. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Might be 100 years from now, but you >> Might be 100 years from now, but you >> Might be 100 years from now, but you know. know. know. >> Yeah. You know, whenever I'm sitting >> Yeah. You know, whenever I'm sitting >> Yeah. You know, whenever I'm sitting there ready to take off in my space there ready to take off in my space there ready to take off in my space shuttle and I look over and I see Steve shuttle and I look over and I see Steve shuttle and I look over and I see Steve Bushi where he makes this comment about Bushi where he makes this comment about Bushi where he makes this comment about what it's like 13,000 or million moving what it's like 13,000 or million moving what it's like 13,000 or million moving parts, you know, built by the lowest parts, you know, built by the lowest parts, you know, built by the lowest bidder. What could go wrong? Yeah. What could go wrong? Yeah. >> I feel like on Delta Airlines sometimes.

>> I feel like on Delta Airlines sometimes. >> I feel like on Delta Airlines sometimes. >> Ouch. >> Ouch. >> Ouch. >> Like this seat belt doesn't work. What >> Like this seat belt doesn't work. What >> Like this seat belt doesn't work. What else doesn't work? doesn't work. else doesn't work? doesn't work. else doesn't work? doesn't work. >> If you if you fly on Macdonald Douglas >> If you if you fly on Macdonald Douglas >> If you if you fly on Macdonald Douglas planes, yeah, definitely. planes, yeah, definitely. planes, yeah, definitely. >> I used to do a lot of that. That was >> I used to do a lot of that. That was >> I used to do a lot of that. That was dangerous. When I uh my first year at dangerous. When I uh my first year at dangerous. When I uh my first year at Microsoft, I was traveling every week Microsoft, I was traveling every week Microsoft, I was traveling every week and to Dallas and so therefore I was and to Dallas and so therefore I was and to Dallas and so therefore I was flying American and American was still flying American and American was still flying American and American was still in love with the MD80. in love with the MD80. in love with the MD80. Like they still had a lot of those in Like they still had a lot of those in Like they still had a lot of those in the fleet and they would not get rid of the fleet and they would not get rid of the fleet and they would not get rid of them, you know? they were going to be them, you know? they were going to be them, you know? they were going to be like blockbuster video. We're just going like blockbuster video. We're just going like blockbuster video. We're just going to run this thing into the ground and to run this thing into the ground and to run this thing into the ground and until, you know, landing gears and all until, you know, landing gears and all until, you know, landing gears and all kinds of stuff started having problems. kinds of stuff started having problems. kinds of stuff started having problems. It's like, oh, It's like, oh, It's like, oh, >> yeah. So, I always felt weird getting on >> yeah. So, I always felt weird getting on >> yeah. So, I always felt weird getting on an MD80 in modern times. an MD80 in modern times. an MD80 in modern times. >> Although, I heard the B7, the B7, >> Although, I heard the B7, the B7, >> Although, I heard the B7, the B7, there's an article about how there's a there's an article about how there's a there's an article about how there's a new contract to new contract to new contract to change out the engines on the B7. I change out the engines on the B7. I change out the engines on the B7. I mean, this this is this thing is built mean, this this is this thing is built mean, this this is this thing is built so well. It's going to be a 100redyear so well. It's going to be a 100redyear so well. It's going to be a 100redyear lifespan on this plane. When it was lifespan on this plane. When it was lifespan on this plane. When it was built, the B7s were originally what in built, the B7s were originally what in built, the B7s were originally what in the in the ' 50s, I think.

the in the ' 50s, I think. the in the ' 50s, I think. >> Oh. Oh, you mean the B-52? >> Oh. Oh, you mean the B-52? >> Oh. Oh, you mean the B-52? >> B-52s, I'm sorry. The B52s. Yeah. >> B-52s, I'm sorry. The B52s. Yeah. >> B-52s, I'm sorry. The B52s. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Still they're still in >> Still they're still in >> Still they're still in >> and there's a new contract to sort of >> and there's a new contract to sort of >> and there's a new contract to sort of retrofit some new engines onto them. retrofit some new engines onto them. retrofit some new engines onto them. >> So, this thing's going to be out until >> So, this thing's going to be out until >> So, this thing's going to be out until like 2050 or whatever. The thing the like 2050 or whatever. The thing the like 2050 or whatever. The thing the thing that people usually don't know is thing that people usually don't know is thing that people usually don't know is that in in aeronautics the the frames that in in aeronautics the the frames that in in aeronautics the the frames and the engines there are two different and the engines there are two different and the engines there are two different paths in terms of innovation and they paths in terms of innovation and they paths in terms of innovation and they are usually interchangeable. So this are usually interchangeable. So this are usually interchangeable. So this concept of retrofitting with new engines concept of retrofitting with new engines concept of retrofitting with new engines is actually fairly common and can be is actually fairly common and can be is actually fairly common and can be applied. applied. applied. >> Yeah. Yeah. It just shows that that >> Yeah. Yeah. It just shows that that >> Yeah. Yeah. It just shows that that thing was built really well. It was a thing was built really well. It was a thing was built really well. It was a great in the beginning. Yeah. So great in the beginning. Yeah. So great in the beginning. Yeah. So >> and man that thing has the biggest >> and man that thing has the biggest >> and man that thing has the biggest wingspan. And aren't the wings almost wingspan. And aren't the wings almost wingspan. And aren't the wings almost touching the ground when it's on the touching the ground when it's on the touching the ground when it's on the ground or something? ground or something? ground or something? >> That's the you that's the YouTube >> That's the you that's the YouTube >> That's the you that's the YouTube high altitude. high altitude. high altitude. >> That's different. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's different. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's different. Yeah. Yeah. >> So heavy. >> So heavy. >> So heavy. >> The the MD80 was not a bad plane. The >> The the MD80 was not a bad plane. The >> The the MD80 was not a bad plane. The the probably the worst one that the probably the worst one that the probably the worst one that McDonald's did was the the u the DC10. McDonald's did was the the u the DC10. McDonald's did was the the u the DC10. >> I remember the DC10. >> I remember the DC10. >> I remember the DC10. >> I remember the DC10. >> I remember the DC10. >> I remember the DC10. >> When I was I I I I grew up portion of my >> When I was I I I I grew up portion of my >> When I was I I I I grew up portion of my teenage time in New Calonia, French teenage time in New Calonia, French teenage time in New Calonia, French territory. And uh at that time, the only territory. And uh at that time, the only territory. And uh at that time, the only airline I could fly there was a French airline I could fly there was a French airline I could fly there was a French airline called UTA. And they had only airline called UTA. And they had only airline called UTA. And they had only DC10. And so I lived there for four DC10. And so I lived there for four DC10. And so I lived there for four years. So I was doing one or two trips years. So I was doing one or two trips years. So I was doing one or two trips per year to go see the family from Paris per year to go see the family from Paris per year to go see the family from Paris to New Calonia. And uh that was when to New Calonia. And uh that was when to New Calonia. And uh that was when airplane had like you know 6 7 8 9 hours airplane had like you know 6 7 8 9 hours airplane had like you know 6 7 8 9 hours of flying time. So you would do Paris to of flying time. So you would do Paris to of flying time. So you would do Paris to uh Ton to Bahin Bahin to Numea which was uh Ton to Bahin Bahin to Numea which was uh Ton to Bahin Bahin to Numea which was a three 8 hours legs with 4 hours stops

a three 8 hours legs with 4 hours stops a three 8 hours legs with 4 hours stops in the middle. in the middle. in the middle. >> Yes. And I can tell you because that was >> Yes. And I can tell you because that was >> Yes. And I can tell you because that was a time where the airport there was a a time where the airport there was a a time where the airport there was a transit lounge where you had view on the transit lounge where you had view on the transit lounge where you had view on the runway with just a glass window. There runway with just a glass window. There runway with just a glass window. There was no security and [ __ ] So you was no security and [ __ ] So you was no security and [ __ ] So you could see the mechanics on the plane at could see the mechanics on the plane at could see the mechanics on the plane at every single stop. every single stop. every single stop. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I think I never landed in Numea >> And I think I never landed in Numea >> And I think I never landed in Numea after that you know three legs right after that you know three legs right after that you know three legs right with the three engines running. There with the three engines running. There with the three engines running. There was always enough. I had the landing was always enough. I had the landing was always enough. I had the landing gear burning because the the the runway gear burning because the the the runway gear burning because the the the runway was too hot. So when you you're landing was too hot. So when you you're landing was too hot. So when you you're landing and you see the fire trucks following and you see the fire trucks following and you see the fire trucks following you on the you on the you on the >> Not a good sign. >> Not a good sign. >> Not a good sign. >> Not a good sign. >> Not a good sign. >> Not a good sign. >> Yeah. When they're spraying foam on the >> Yeah. When they're spraying foam on the >> Yeah. When they're spraying foam on the runway as you're coming in, that's not a runway as you're coming in, that's not a runway as you're coming in, that's not a good good good >> the the the the cherry on the cake to >> the the the the cherry on the cake to >> the the the the cherry on the cake to piece of Dmitri is it is one piece of a piece of Dmitri is it is one piece of a piece of Dmitri is it is one piece of a freaking DCT10. That was one of the freaking DCT10. That was one of the freaking DCT10. That was one of the major cause of the Concord accident. major cause of the Concord accident. major cause of the Concord accident. >> It was >> It was >> It was >> our favorite airline who embraced the >> our favorite airline who embraced the >> our favorite airline who embraced the DC10 Continental. DC10 Continental. DC10 Continental. >> Yeah. Um, you know, in the 70s the DC10 >> Yeah. Um, you know, in the 70s the DC10 >> Yeah. Um, you know, in the 70s the DC10 when it came out though before people when it came out though before people when it came out though before people knew that maybe it wasn't the best, it knew that maybe it wasn't the best, it knew that maybe it wasn't the best, it was heralded as this amazing new plane was heralded as this amazing new plane was heralded as this amazing new plane and widebody without being a giant 747.

and widebody without being a giant 747. and widebody without being a giant 747. And I remember seeing commercials on TV And I remember seeing commercials on TV And I remember seeing commercials on TV for Continental Airlines and they were for Continental Airlines and they were for Continental Airlines and they were talking up the fact that they had the talking up the fact that they had the talking up the fact that they had the DCT10 and that they had a pub, they had DCT10 and that they had a pub, they had DCT10 and that they had a pub, they had a little bar like you see on ads now for a little bar like you see on ads now for a little bar like you see on ads now for Emirates and things like that. But back Emirates and things like that. But back Emirates and things like that. But back in the 70s, Continental Airlines had in the 70s, Continental Airlines had in the 70s, Continental Airlines had that on DC10. that on DC10. that on DC10. >> And I remember riding on one. I flew >> And I remember riding on one. I flew >> And I remember riding on one. I flew from Texas to Los Angeles. Um, and they from Texas to Los Angeles. Um, and they from Texas to Los Angeles. Um, and they had the remember the sit down video had the remember the sit down video had the remember the sit down video games like where you're sitting next to games like where you're sitting next to games like where you're sitting next to each other and it's like you have your each other and it's like you have your each other and it's like you have your drink on the table and play Pac-Man. drink on the table and play Pac-Man. drink on the table and play Pac-Man. They had those and the bar and I was They had those and the bar and I was They had those and the bar and I was just like, "This is the future. This is just like, "This is the future. This is just like, "This is the future. This is what aviation is all about, you know." what aviation is all about, you know." what aviation is all about, you know." Um, I don't know. It seemed like a good Um, I don't know. It seemed like a good Um, I don't know. It seemed like a good time. Was it at the front or the back of time. Was it at the front or the back of time. Was it at the front or the back of the plane? the plane? the plane? >> It was in the front. >> It was in the front. >> It was in the front. >> Oh, you're lucky because you know the >> Oh, you're lucky because you know the >> Oh, you're lucky because you know the the biggest first floor of the DC was the biggest first floor of the DC was the biggest first floor of the DC was the back door. The door at the back with the back door. The door at the back with the back door. The door at the back with Kettison and we usually take with it Kettison and we usually take with it Kettison and we usually take with it with depression the two last row of the with depression the two last row of the with depression the two last row of the plane. There were a couple of accident plane. There were a couple of accident plane. There were a couple of accident like that in the beginning. Yeah. like that in the beginning. Yeah. like that in the beginning. Yeah. >> The same one like from World War Z when >> The same one like from World War Z when >> The same one like from World War Z when all the people started flying out when all the people started flying out when all the people started flying out when the zombies were inside the plane with the zombies were inside the plane with the zombies were inside the plane with Brad Pitt and they haven't seen this Brad Pitt and they haven't seen this Brad Pitt and they haven't seen this one.

one. one. >> Never mind. >> Never mind. >> Never mind. I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? >> Who knows? People are get inspiration >> Who knows? People are get inspiration >> Who knows? People are get inspiration from all kinds of places. Sometimes it's from all kinds of places. Sometimes it's from all kinds of places. Sometimes it's a back door that's blowing out, you a back door that's blowing out, you a back door that's blowing out, you know. know. know. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> And unfortunately, I'm sure you guys >> And unfortunately, I'm sure you guys >> And unfortunately, I'm sure you guys have seen you there's a number of have seen you there's a number of have seen you there's a number of documentaries on that. But the the the documentaries on that. But the the the documentaries on that. But the the the merger of uh of uh of um Macdonald merger of uh of uh of um Macdonald merger of uh of uh of um Macdonald Douglas with Boeing is actually brought Douglas with Boeing is actually brought Douglas with Boeing is actually brought this culture of being extremely this culture of being extremely this culture of being extremely shareholder centric as opposed to be shareholder centric as opposed to be shareholder centric as opposed to be engineering and safetycentric and and engineering and safetycentric and and engineering and safetycentric and and one can argue that that almost killed one can argue that that almost killed one can argue that that almost killed Boeing because Boeing Boeing because Boeing Boeing because Boeing >> Yes. Lots of people in the Seattle area >> Yes. Lots of people in the Seattle area >> Yes. Lots of people in the Seattle area have been talking about that for decades have been talking about that for decades have been talking about that for decades that it destroyed Boeing's engineering that it destroyed Boeing's engineering that it destroyed Boeing's engineering culture. culture. culture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. and and I think they're aware and and and I think they're aware and and and I think they're aware and they're trying to fix it. they're trying to fix it. they're trying to fix it. >> Yeah. Hopefully the the couple of big >> Yeah. Hopefully the the couple of big >> Yeah. Hopefully the the couple of big incidents we had in the past decades incidents we had in the past decades incidents we had in the past decades will make them wake up a little bit and will make them wake up a little bit and will make them wake up a little bit and change that because that's a shame. It change that because that's a shame. It change that because that's a shame. It was very extremely even from at my time was very extremely even from at my time was very extremely even from at my time from France. I know obviously we Airbus from France. I know obviously we Airbus from France. I know obviously we Airbus was growing and and everybody was trying was growing and and everybody was trying was growing and and everybody was trying to get to you know we were focusing on to get to you know we were focusing on to get to you know we were focusing on industry to try to get a competitor but industry to try to get a competitor but industry to try to get a competitor but the respect for Boeing was extremely the respect for Boeing was extremely the respect for Boeing was extremely high because engineering was it was high because engineering was it was high because engineering was it was >> wow.

>> wow. >> wow. When you talk about engineering culture, When you talk about engineering culture, When you talk about engineering culture, I'll I'll just circle back to the I'll I'll just circle back to the I'll I'll just circle back to the previous uh discussion we had this previous uh discussion we had this previous uh discussion we had this morning about prompt engineering, which morning about prompt engineering, which morning about prompt engineering, which I think people attaching the word I think people attaching the word I think people attaching the word engineering to their title, you know, engineering to their title, you know, engineering to their title, you know, barista engineering or whatever, barista engineering or whatever, barista engineering or whatever, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> is is is not good. And I think for folks >> is is is not good. And I think for folks >> is is is not good. And I think for folks that have actually studied engineering that have actually studied engineering that have actually studied engineering and have degrees in engineering, and have degrees in engineering, and have degrees in engineering, >> so do you certain culture there that >> so do you certain culture there that >> so do you certain culture there that needs to be maintained otherwise needs to be maintained otherwise needs to be maintained otherwise everyone's an engineer, so nobody's an everyone's an engineer, so nobody's an everyone's an engineer, so nobody's an engineer, engineer, engineer, >> right? And don't even get me started >> right? And don't even get me started >> right? And don't even get me started because I would even argue that software because I would even argue that software because I would even argue that software engineers the engineer world to software engineers the engineer world to software engineers the engineer world to software people people people >> agree there's no such thing as software >> agree there's no such thing as software >> agree there's no such thing as software engineering is there engineering is there engineering is there >> majority of them they should not get >> majority of them they should not get >> majority of them they should not get this freaking title this freaking title this freaking title >> I mean I don't think you can get a >> I mean I don't think you can get a >> I mean I don't think you can get a bachelor of science in software bachelor of science in software bachelor of science in software engineering I think it exists you can engineering I think it exists you can engineering I think it exists you can get computer science degree you can get get computer science degree you can get get computer science degree you can get >> wasn't there some kind of action a >> wasn't there some kind of action a >> wasn't there some kind of action a governmental thing I don't know if it governmental thing I don't know if it governmental thing I don't know if it was the state of Washington or whatever was the state of Washington or whatever was the state of Washington or whatever but it I thought it was directed at but it I thought it was directed at but it I thought it was directed at Microsoft, but it could have been Microsoft, but it could have been Microsoft, but it could have been directed at any software company. And directed at any software company. And directed at any software company. And this was, I don't know, a couple decades this was, I don't know, a couple decades this was, I don't know, a couple decades ago where they're basically saying, you ago where they're basically saying, you ago where they're basically saying, you guys cannot call yourself software guys cannot call yourself software guys cannot call yourself software engineers. Engineer is a professional engineers. Engineer is a professional engineers. Engineer is a professional thing. And you get registered and thing. And you get registered and thing. And you get registered and certified by the state to be a certified by the state to be a certified by the state to be a professional engineer. And you guys are professional engineer. And you guys are professional engineer. And you guys are not engineers.

not engineers. not engineers. >> Well, it's a thing. Although I think >> Well, it's a thing. Although I think >> Well, it's a thing. Although I think there is an interesting movement there is an interesting movement there is an interesting movement happening around what I would call AI happening around what I would call AI happening around what I would call AI engineering. Like is there a I think at engineering. Like is there a I think at engineering. Like is there a I think at some point in the in the future you will some point in the in the future you will some point in the in the future you will be able to get a bachelor of science in be able to get a bachelor of science in be able to get a bachelor of science in AI engineering. That'll be a recognized AI engineering. That'll be a recognized AI engineering. That'll be a recognized discipline. discipline. discipline. You'll see universities eventually You'll see universities eventually You'll see universities eventually offering those types of programs. But offering those types of programs. But offering those types of programs. But again, that would probably involve, you again, that would probably involve, you again, that would probably involve, you know, electrical engineering and know, electrical engineering and know, electrical engineering and computer science and lots of kind of computer science and lots of kind of computer science and lots of kind of disciplines piled on top of each other. disciplines piled on top of each other. disciplines piled on top of each other. But that's a that needs to be a more But that's a that needs to be a more But that's a that needs to be a more rigorous process. You can't just call rigorous process. You can't just call rigorous process. You can't just call yourself an engineer, right? yourself an engineer, right? yourself an engineer, right? >> I I don't know why people do that, but >> I I don't know why people do that, but >> I I don't know why people do that, but >> yeah. Well, you know, that's funny you >> yeah. Well, you know, that's funny you >> yeah. Well, you know, that's funny you say that because I'm actually launching say that because I'm actually launching say that because I'm actually launching a new university in Grenada that will a new university in Grenada that will a new university in Grenada that will give people that degree uh you know, a give people that degree uh you know, a give people that degree uh you know, a bachelor of AI engineering and then I bachelor of AI engineering and then I bachelor of AI engineering and then I think we are going to add a master's think we are going to add a master's think we are going to add a master's program to that as well. program to that as well. program to that as well. >> University is that yeah, >> University is that yeah, >> University is that yeah, we only take Bitcoin. So Bitcoin for an we only take Bitcoin. So Bitcoin for an we only take Bitcoin. So Bitcoin for an extra $99.95 extra $99.95 extra $99.95 you can get it. Actually, well, you can get it. Actually, well, you can get it. Actually, well, >> Rob, >> Rob, >> Rob, >> pro pro advice. If you're launching the >> pro pro advice. If you're launching the >> pro pro advice. If you're launching the the the university, I'm actually sure the the university, I'm actually sure the the university, I'm actually sure you're going to go the total opposite you're going to go the total opposite you're going to go the total opposite way. Only accept payment in gold.

way. Only accept payment in gold. way. Only accept payment in gold. >> Smart. >> Smart. >> Smart. >> Bullion. >> Bullion. >> Bullion. >> Bullion. Yes. Very smart. >> Bullion. Yes. Very smart. >> Bullion. Yes. Very smart. >> Or a stable coin that is backed by gold, >> Or a stable coin that is backed by gold, >> Or a stable coin that is backed by gold, but real gold that you know where's the but real gold that you know where's the but real gold that you know where's the location. location. location. There's a webcam that you can check that There's a webcam that you can check that There's a webcam that you can check that it's there. it's there. it's there. >> I love it. I love it. It's good thing we >> I love it. I love it. It's good thing we >> I love it. I love it. It's good thing we have bean counters on this show who know have bean counters on this show who know have bean counters on this show who know about all that stuff. That's great. about all that stuff. That's great. about all that stuff. That's great. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> I'm not I can't count my own beans. >> I'm not I can't count my own beans. >> I'm not I can't count my own beans. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> speaking of I I do need to bail, but uh >> speaking of I I do need to bail, but uh >> speaking of I I do need to bail, but uh >> go Hawks. >> go Hawks. >> go Hawks. >> Yes, go Hawks. >> Yes, go Hawks. >> Yes, go Hawks. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah, I'm going to have to go through. >> Yeah, I'm going to have to go through. >> Yeah, I'm going to have to go through. So, you have to take us off, Rob. So, you have to take us off, Rob. So, you have to take us off, Rob. >> Yes. So, I don't know what the show was >> Yes. So, I don't know what the show was >> Yes. So, I don't know what the show was about, but we were here. We talked about about, but we were here. We talked about about, but we were here. We talked about space and mining and how feasible it is space and mining and how feasible it is space and mining and how feasible it is to do manufacturing in space. Dimmitri to do manufacturing in space. Dimmitri to do manufacturing in space. Dimmitri is certainly concerned about what how do is certainly concerned about what how do is certainly concerned about what how do we get those finished goods that we we get those finished goods that we we get those finished goods that we created in space back to Earth. You created in space back to Earth. You created in space back to Earth. You know, it's you know, there's these are know, it's you know, there's these are know, it's you know, there's these are great ideas. We don't want to squatchch great ideas. We don't want to squatchch great ideas. We don't want to squatchch great ideas. We don't want be counters great ideas. We don't want be counters great ideas. We don't want be counters squatchching great ideas cuz they often squatchching great ideas cuz they often squatchching great ideas cuz they often do. Um but we definitely need to think do. Um but we definitely need to think do. Um but we definitely need to think about science about science about science um and figure out the feasibility of um and figure out the feasibility of um and figure out the feasibility of this stuff. But again, you know, keep this stuff. But again, you know, keep this stuff. But again, you know, keep coming with those great ideas, young coming with those great ideas, young coming with those great ideas, young people out there. Um, and obviously IoT people out there. Um, and obviously IoT people out there. Um, and obviously IoT is the core of all that stuff as is the core of all that stuff as is the core of all that stuff as everyone knows, you know. Um, so thanks everyone knows, you know. Um, so thanks everyone knows, you know. Um, so thanks for joining us this week on this strange for joining us this week on this strange for joining us this week on this strange episode that's really chopped up. And episode that's really chopped up. And episode that's really chopped up. And um, you know, and also don't forget um, you know, and also don't forget um, you know, and also don't forget about Elevate Communities. Magic's going

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