IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 177 - Everything About Private 5G & IoT

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tunes on that album so if you haven't if tunes on that album so if you haven't if you haven't heard that album I mean go you haven't heard that album I mean go you haven't heard that album I mean go check it out it's just go listen to check it out it's just go listen to check it out it's just go listen to Unforgettable Fire awesome album yeah Unforgettable Fire awesome album yeah Unforgettable Fire awesome album yeah absolutely David you missed the edge The absolutely David you missed the edge The absolutely David you missed the edge The Edge kicked us off this morning you know Edge kicked us off this morning you know Edge kicked us off this morning you know we had our white flag and he started off we had our white flag and he started off we had our white flag and he started off playing Sunday Bloody playing Sunday Bloody playing Sunday Bloody Sunday in honor of you two at the sphere Sunday in honor of you two at the sphere Sunday in honor of you two at the sphere in Las in Las in Las Vegas I I've just put the uh the album Vegas I I've just put the uh the album Vegas I I've just put the uh the album here and I will listen to it later today here and I will listen to it later today here and I will listen to it later today um and you know as you guys know I um I um and you know as you guys know I um I um and you know as you guys know I um I just discovered uh laugh all you want just discovered uh laugh all you want just discovered uh laugh all you want but until last week I have never heard but until last week I have never heard but until last week I have never heard of Fleetwood Mac Oh now I know but of Fleetwood Mac Oh now I know but of Fleetwood Mac Oh now I know but wow yeah it's okay and I and I don't wow yeah it's okay and I and I don't wow yeah it's okay and I and I don't mind confessing these things because I mind confessing these things because I mind confessing these things because I am open to new things oh that's great am open to new things oh that's great am open to new things oh that's great you know I ask random people like hey you know I ask random people like hey you know I ask random people like hey like why should I be listening to this like why should I be listening to this like why should I be listening to this guy oh dude Fleetwood Mac I'm like okay guy oh dude Fleetwood Mac I'm like okay guy oh dude Fleetwood Mac I'm like okay wow Dave what should we listening to wow Dave what should we listening to wow Dave what should we listening to maybe we should listen to this oh my maybe we should listen to this oh my maybe we should listen to this oh my God you know it's like maybe I should go God you know it's like maybe I should go God you know it's like maybe I should go to the 70s and he fluid ma yeah see see to the 70s and he fluid ma yeah see see to the 70s and he fluid ma yeah see see that guy see that guy with the afro that guy see that guy with the afro that guy see that guy with the afro David yeah that was me that was you oh David yeah that was me that was you oh David yeah that was me that was you oh my God that's right I picture that I can my God that's right I picture that I can my God that's right I picture that I can imagine that yeah I I had the je like imagine that yeah I I had the je like imagine that yeah I I had the je like there was no there was no there was no tomorrow what happened I was say that I tomorrow what happened I was say that I tomorrow what happened I was say that I was going to say that but you know I'm was going to say that but you know I'm was going to say that but you know I'm like okay please Steve just you say it

like okay please Steve just you say it like okay please Steve just you say it you say Put the Needle on the you say Put the Needle on the you say Put the Needle on the record David why would I let you go down record David why would I let you go down record David why would I let you go down the road to ruin when I could do it the road to ruin when I could do it the road to ruin when I could do it myself I was just going to call you myself I was just going to call you myself I was just going to call you after I'm like hey man is this what you after I'm like hey man is this what you after I'm like hey man is this what you wanted to say this wanted to say this wanted to say this is you know Seth Rogan always likes to is you know Seth Rogan always likes to is you know Seth Rogan always likes to make references to that yeah all the make references to that yeah all the make references to that yeah all the time all the time you know have to cut time all the time you know have to cut time all the time you know have to cut my hair back so I don't have my puffy my hair back so I don't have my puffy my hair back so I don't have my puffy yeah absolutely Mark Zucker Mark yeah absolutely Mark Zucker Mark yeah absolutely Mark Zucker Mark Zuckerberg would have that if he didn't Zuckerberg would have that if he didn't Zuckerberg would have that if he didn't cut his hair so short yeah he wouldn't cut his hair so short yeah he wouldn't cut his hair so short yeah he wouldn't have the guts to have the pick in the have the guts to have the pick in the have the guts to have the pick in the back of him if you had the pick you're back of him if you had the pick you're back of him if you had the pick you're legit yes with a boom box the Robie your your your boy Mark wants the Robie your your your boy Mark wants to charge uh Facebook users uh 13 EUR a to charge uh Facebook users uh 13 EUR a to charge uh Facebook users uh 13 EUR a month if they don't want the ads uh month if they don't want the ads uh month if they don't want the ads uh let's see how that's going to work out let's see how that's going to work out let's see how that's going to work out he byebye he byebye he byebye yeah it's like dude Netflix already yeah it's like dude Netflix already yeah it's like dude Netflix already wants like an extra four bucks struggl wants like an extra four bucks struggl wants like an extra four bucks struggl don't tell me that I gotta pay an extra don't tell me that I gotta pay an extra don't tell me that I gotta pay an extra 13 EUR for 13 EUR for 13 EUR for Facebook just not gonna happen not at Facebook just not gonna happen not at Facebook just not gonna happen not at all not at all not at all not at all the masses are hooked you know and all the masses are hooked you know and all the masses are hooked you know and and I just grabbed this I don't know if and I just grabbed this I don't know if and I just grabbed this I don't know if you ever heard of this one so um Tableau you ever heard of this one so um Tableau you ever heard of this one so um Tableau is a that goes up on your roof in your is a that goes up on your roof in your is a that goes up on your roof in your attic and this is what gives you the attic and this is what gives you the attic and this is what gives you the free 70 channels of 4K HD local TV

free 70 channels of 4K HD local TV free 70 channels of 4K HD local TV stations way so this is a new program stations way so this is a new program stations way so this is a new program from a company called Tableau it's got from a company called Tableau it's got from a company called Tableau it's got 50 hours of DVR storage two TV tuners 50 hours of DVR storage two TV tuners 50 hours of DVR storage two TV tuners gives you all the local stations and gives you all the local stations and gives you all the local stations and football and everything else like that football and everything else like that football and everything else like that and then you so your streaming just and then you so your streaming just and then you so your streaming just changes to that but it's got the same changes to that but it's got the same changes to that but it's got the same kind of you know up as any kind of kind of you know up as any kind of kind of you know up as any kind of streaming scenario that's there so you streaming scenario that's there so you streaming scenario that's there so you know these kids have it so easy today know these kids have it so easy today know these kids have it so easy today back in our day we had to get the back in our day we had to get the back in our day we had to get the bootleg Direct TV guy that had the bootleg Direct TV guy that had the bootleg Direct TV guy that had the different cards to come and mess with different cards to come and mess with different cards to come and mess with your box so that you can get all of the your box so that you can get all of the your box so that you can get all of the channels listen youngster I love it when channels listen youngster I love it when channels listen youngster I love it when a millennial or this used to be on R a millennial or this used to be on R a millennial or this used to be on R D the rabbit ears with the tin foil and D the rabbit ears with the tin foil and D the rabbit ears with the tin foil and you you you had yeah had yeah had yeah you know what but but I don't think we you know what but but I don't think we you know what but but I don't think we missed out on anything that that's the missed out on anything that that's the missed out on anything that that's the thing um I think that's the thing that thing um I think that's the thing that thing um I think that's the thing that everyone needs to recognize you missed everyone needs to recognize you missed everyone needs to recognize you missed out on your parents going lard can you out on your parents going lard can you out on your parents going lard can you change from channel two to Channel change from channel two to Channel change from channel two to Channel please that's what you missed you know please that's what you missed you know please that's what you missed you know that's why they had you right because that's why they had you right because that's why they had you right because they needed a remote control my they needed a remote control my they needed a remote control my grandmother had me to change on to grandmother had me to change on to grandmother had me to change on to Stephen turn the channel to Lawrence wel Stephen turn the channel to Lawrence wel Stephen turn the channel to Lawrence wel yeah yeah yeah the the the bubbles oh my God so basically children bubbles oh my God so basically children bubbles oh my God so basically children were the original um iot yeah there you were the original um iot yeah there you were the original um iot yeah there you go see everything original remote

go see everything original remote go see everything original remote control for sure yeah you brought it on control for sure yeah you brought it on control for sure yeah you brought it on back well done dude yeah that's what back well done dude yeah that's what back well done dude yeah that's what we're here for everything comes back we're here for everything comes back we're here for everything comes back yeah RPA man RPA first we were Children yeah RPA man RPA first we were Children yeah RPA man RPA first we were Children of the Corn and now we're children of of the Corn and now we're children of of the Corn and now we're children of iot yeah yeah yeah but you know I'm glad you're yeah but you know I'm glad you're yeah but you know I'm glad you're getting into Fleetwood Mac yes yeah yeah getting into Fleetwood Mac yes yeah yeah getting into Fleetwood Mac yes yeah yeah um you know I would recommend I may have um you know I would recommend I may have um you know I would recommend I may have recommended this before too um you know recommended this before too um you know recommended this before too um you know Dave Gro being the only person keeping Dave Gro being the only person keeping Dave Gro being the only person keeping rock and roll alive and he's makes lots rock and roll alive and he's makes lots rock and roll alive and he's makes lots of documentaries because he's all a big of documentaries because he's all a big of documentaries because he's all a big fan of other musicians one of them is fan of other musicians one of them is fan of other musicians one of them is called Sound City I think and it's about called Sound City I think and it's about called Sound City I think and it's about a recording studio in a recording studio in a recording studio in uh La uh La uh La uh actually in the valley and um there uh actually in the valley and um there uh actually in the valley and um there and it's all about rescuing this and it's all about rescuing this and it's all about rescuing this soundboard there's only a handful of soundboard there's only a handful of soundboard there's only a handful of these NE analog soundboards but anyway these NE analog soundboards but anyway these NE analog soundboards but anyway to tied into Fleetwood Mac you know they to tied into Fleetwood Mac you know they to tied into Fleetwood Mac you know they have they all the people who got their have they all the people who got their have they all the people who got their start at this studio going back to the start at this studio going back to the start at this studio going back to the early 70s are in this show if they're early 70s are in this show if they're early 70s are in this show if they're alive wow and and Stevie Nicks and so in alive wow and and Stevie Nicks and so in alive wow and and Stevie Nicks and so in the early days at this sound City Place the early days at this sound City Place the early days at this sound City Place uh Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks uh Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks uh Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were just a poor couple she was cleaning were just a poor couple she was cleaning were just a poor couple she was cleaning houses to make ends meet I forgot what houses to make ends meet I forgot what houses to make ends meet I forgot what he was doing and they were trying to he was doing and they were trying to he was doing and they were trying to record they did a couple of albums

record they did a couple of albums record they did a couple of albums themselves and then Mick Fleetwood just themselves and then Mick Fleetwood just themselves and then Mick Fleetwood just happened to be in happened to be in happened to be in town and was there and whatever and he town and was there and whatever and he town and was there and whatever and he overheard them doing stuff and it was overheard them doing stuff and it was overheard them doing stuff and it was like what are these people doing like what are these people doing like what are these people doing whatever they literally got together at whatever they literally got together at whatever they literally got together at sounds City Studio there um and in San sounds City Studio there um and in San sounds City Studio there um and in San Fernando Valley Fernando Valley Fernando Valley and that is how we got Fleetwood Mack and that is how we got Fleetwood Mack and that is how we got Fleetwood Mack that we know it is today because before that we know it is today because before that we know it is today because before that you didn't have the two of those that you didn't have the two of those that you didn't have the two of those folks you know yeah Christine MC you folks you know yeah Christine MC you folks you know yeah Christine MC you know so anyway I I love the history of know so anyway I I love the history of know so anyway I I love the history of music yeah it's amazing and you know I music yeah it's amazing and you know I music yeah it's amazing and you know I was at the Village studios in um in LA was at the Village studios in um in LA was at the Village studios in um in LA and that's where they recorded all those and that's where they recorded all those and that's where they recorded all those albums and uh yeah yeah I mean if the albums and uh yeah yeah I mean if the albums and uh yeah yeah I mean if the walls could talk walls could talk walls could talk yeah you know Rolling yeah you know Rolling yeah you know Rolling Stones uh you know you actually if you Stones uh you know you actually if you Stones uh you know you actually if you think about it you don't want the the think about it you don't want the the think about it you don't want the the walls in those clubs on Sunset Boulevard walls in those clubs on Sunset Boulevard walls in those clubs on Sunset Boulevard yes you do you couldn't get me to sit down at a do you couldn't get me to sit down at a table there not at the booth see that's table there not at the booth see that's table there not at the booth see that's a big business case for iot we can sense a big business case for iot we can sense a big business case for iot we can sense all that stuff and record it and then all that stuff and record it and then all that stuff and record it and then buy Nvidia gpus to expore and process it buy Nvidia gpus to expore and process it buy Nvidia gpus to expore and process it with NLP or LL LS you know and get now what he's now what is he pulling get now what he's now what is he pulling out ohing I think this is one I think this

ohing I think this is one I think this might be one of my favorite album covers might be one of my favorite album covers might be one of my favorite album covers ever yeah I know it's just I know it's ever yeah I know it's just I know it's ever yeah I know it's just I know it's just a photo but I think there's just just a photo but I think there's just just a photo but I think there's just something about it you know so he just something about it you know so he just something about it you know so he just did he took a picture of him looking did he took a picture of him looking did he took a picture of him looking like that because he just turned 70 or like that because he just turned 70 or like that because he just turned 70 or something like that something like that something like that he has a picture of him today with his he has a picture of him today with his he has a picture of him today with his arm around that picture I love it oh no arm around that picture I love it oh no arm around that picture I love it oh no yeah there you go is that um this is yeah there you go is that um this is yeah there you go is that um this is what music's all about man this double what music's all about man this double what music's all about man this double album opening it up having the album opening it up having the album opening it up having the lyrics remember how great that was that lyrics remember how great that was that lyrics remember how great that was that feeling that having having the backstory feeling that having having the backstory feeling that having having the backstory telling you what we were thinking about telling you what we were thinking about telling you what we were thinking about when we were writing these songs in the when we were writing these songs in the when we were writing these songs in the studio talk you know what I mean it's studio talk you know what I mean it's studio talk you know what I mean it's awesome yeah yeah but you know that awesome yeah yeah but you know that awesome yeah yeah but you know that that's the thing there was this wonder that's the thing there was this wonder that's the thing there was this wonder and Magic about imagining versus knowing and Magic about imagining versus knowing and Magic about imagining versus knowing you know what I'm saying we and then you know what I'm saying we and then you know what I'm saying we and then discovering now we know everything all discovering now we know everything all discovering now we know everything all you have to do is Google it and uh I you have to do is Google it and uh I you have to do is Google it and uh I think we're just now jaded you know think we're just now jaded you know think we're just now jaded you know we're just accustomed to having data at we're just accustomed to having data at we're just accustomed to having data at the tip of our fingers and there's the tip of our fingers and there's the tip of our fingers and there's there's no mystery anymore you know I there's no mystery anymore you know I there's no mystery anymore you know I don't know I think um anyways what the don't know I think um anyways what the don't know I think um anyways what the hell are we going to talk hell are we going to talk hell are we going to talk about yeah well I wanted to do a a a about yeah well I wanted to do a a a about yeah well I wanted to do a a a recap of last week um I know oh yeah I recap of last week um I know oh yeah I recap of last week um I know oh yeah I saw you and you you acted like you saw you and you you acted like you saw you and you you acted like you didn't even freaking know who I didn't even freaking know who I didn't even freaking know who I am oh he doesn't even remember shots fir am oh he doesn't even remember shots fir am oh he doesn't even remember shots fir shots fire he just thought I was some

shots fire he just thought I was some shots fire he just thought I was some other Asian dude oh my God all look other Asian dude oh my God all look other Asian dude oh my God all look alike is that what you're oh my God he alike is that what you're oh my God he alike is that what you're oh my God he thought you were one of the thought you were one of the thought you were one of the singers I saw you I saw you kidding me dude I saw you in the B you kidding me dude I saw you in the B uh thing I saw that okay the only pass uh thing I saw that okay the only pass uh thing I saw that okay the only pass I'm going to give I'm going to give I'm going to give you is that you won that that freaking you is that you won that that freaking you is that you won that that freaking basketball championship and you're old basketball championship and you're old basketball championship and you're old okay that's the only pass I'm going to okay that's the only pass I'm going to okay that's the only pass I'm going to give you I came up to you I said hey give you I came up to you I said hey give you I came up to you I said hey Steve then you looked at me like no Steve then you looked at me like no Steve then you looked at me like no wonder you didn't recognize me you just wonder you didn't recognize me you just wonder you didn't recognize me you just thought I I was like another thought I I was like another thought I I was like another one time where was this Mobile World one time where was this Mobile World one time where was this Mobile World Congress dude you closet it was in in Congress dude you closet it was in in Congress dude you closet it was in in the the main exhibit hall the the the main exhibit hall the the the main exhibit hall the cafeteria you know the B business cafeteria you know the B business cafeteria you know the B business business center the cafeteria in the in business center the cafeteria in the in business center the cafeteria in the in the food court yeah in the food court I the food court yeah in the food court I the food court yeah in the food court I I had 21 meetings in yeah whatever you I had 21 meetings in yeah whatever you I had 21 meetings in yeah whatever you know what that is the fre I'm giving you know what that is the fre I'm giving you know what that is the fre I'm giving you a I did I did go to your session by the a I did I did go to your session by the a I did I did go to your session by the way I was in the back of the room for way I was in the back of the room for way I was in the back of the room for the be session well yeah you should have the be session well yeah you should have the be session well yeah you should have been at the front of the room heck me been at the front of the room heck me been at the front of the room heck me you're know you're no you get no you're you're know you're no you get no you're you're know you're no you get no you're a big man I can't do that you were you a big man I can't do that you were you a big man I can't do that you were you were actually there you did great that I were actually there you did great that I were actually there you did great that I was a well done it was awesome yeah oh was a well done it was awesome yeah oh was a well done it was awesome yeah oh cool yeah I mean we got some good cool yeah I mean we got some good cool yeah I mean we got some good feedback and I think I um I don't think

feedback and I think I um I don't think feedback and I think I um I don't think I made too many people feel well some I made too many people feel well some I made too many people feel well some people comfortable but no I mean I mean people comfortable but no I mean I mean people comfortable but no I mean I mean no I mean I think everybody that was in no I mean I think everybody that was in no I mean I think everybody that was in that room who took the time to go to it that room who took the time to go to it that room who took the time to go to it learn something out of it it was it was learn something out of it it was it was learn something out of it it was it was well done I mean Al I love Alex I think well done I mean Al I love Alex I think well done I mean Al I love Alex I think he's one of the good guys he's a smart he's one of the good guys he's a smart he's one of the good guys he's a smart yeah he smart dude I saw him the yeah he smart dude I saw him the yeah he smart dude I saw him the following day and I you know gave him following day and I you know gave him following day and I you know gave him praise I thought I thought the session praise I thought I thought the session praise I thought I thought the session was the all day all the four hours were was the all day all the four hours were was the all day all the four hours were great um I was really impressed with the great um I was really impressed with the great um I was really impressed with the you but when you walked up to the front you but when you walked up to the front you but when you walked up to the front of the room and you sat down the guy of the room and you sat down the guy of the room and you sat down the guy from the city of Las Vegas CIO was from the city of Las Vegas CIO was from the city of Las Vegas CIO was talking yeah man I didn't realize how talking yeah man I didn't realize how talking yeah man I didn't realize how well connected that city was yeah yeah well connected that city was yeah yeah well connected that city was yeah yeah and and just for context so we're and and just for context so we're and and just for context so we're talking on mwc in Las Vegas 2023 which talking on mwc in Las Vegas 2023 which talking on mwc in Las Vegas 2023 which is this year and the session that he's is this year and the session that he's is this year and the session that he's talking about the Summit is the private talking about the Summit is the private talking about the Summit is the private 5G Summit that was um that that was put 5G Summit that was um that that was put 5G Summit that was um that that was put on by Alex Besson and the Besson group on by Alex Besson and the Besson group on by Alex Besson and the Besson group and they they focus on a lot of private and they they focus on a lot of private and they they focus on a lot of private Wireless Technologies he has all these Wireless Technologies he has all these Wireless Technologies he has all these like tools that he's developed which are like tools that he's developed which are like tools that he's developed which are actually really cool cool absolutely actually really cool cool absolutely actually really cool cool absolutely yeah they're very good and he's doing yeah they're very good and he's doing yeah they're very good and he's doing pretty well with which I'm I'm very pretty well with which I'm I'm very pretty well with which I'm I'm very happy for him because he's working happy for him because he's working happy for him because he's working really hard on this stuff right uh and really hard on this stuff right uh and really hard on this stuff right uh and you know you had uh Intel there you know you had uh Intel there you know you had uh Intel there T-Mobile T-Mobile T-Mobile oon um like who you're saying um oh John oon um like who you're saying um oh John oon um like who you're saying um oh John Deere was there so Rob's favorite too

Deere was there so Rob's favorite too Deere was there so Rob's favorite too company yeah but they were talking about company yeah but they were talking about company yeah but they were talking about private networks for industrial you know private networks for industrial you know private networks for industrial you know their warehouses and factories and stuff their warehouses and factories and stuff their warehouses and factories and stuff and then um I was really surprised that and then um I was really surprised that and then um I was really surprised that not a lot about what they're doing Farm not a lot about what they're doing Farm not a lot about what they're doing Farm Fields yeah but he's with it he's with Fields yeah but he's with it he's with Fields yeah but he's with it he's with it and um there's another group that it and um there's another group that it and um there's another group that does all the funky stuff I mean because does all the funky stuff I mean because does all the funky stuff I mean because we all saw that at CES last year we we all saw that at CES last year we we all saw that at CES last year we actually we had one of the coffee talks actually we had one of the coffee talks actually we had one of the coffee talks we were talking about what they were we were talking about what they were we were talking about what they were doing in you know the 5G stuff on the doing in you know the 5G stuff on the doing in you know the 5G stuff on the fields so yeah but yeah I was I was I fields so yeah but yeah I was I was I fields so yeah but yeah I was I was I was a great day and I'm just amazed at was a great day and I'm just amazed at was a great day and I'm just amazed at how many people are deploying private how many people are deploying private how many people are deploying private 5G and with the higher prices of you 5G and with the higher prices of you 5G and with the higher prices of you know products and the integration of know products and the integration of know products and the integration of products I was really surprised yeah I products I was really surprised yeah I products I was really surprised yeah I mean I got a different feel um I I think mean I got a different feel um I I think mean I got a different feel um I I think there's a lot of poc's when I had dinner there's a lot of poc's when I had dinner there's a lot of poc's when I had dinner with um uh Jason uh Willam I think with um uh Jason uh Willam I think with um uh Jason uh Willam I think that's his name oh my God horrible that that's his name oh my God horrible that that's his name oh my God horrible that I anyway met so many people it's just I I anyway met so many people it's just I I anyway met so many people it's just I have no excuse either anyway um you know have no excuse either anyway um you know have no excuse either anyway um you know they're doing a lot of initial Pilots they're doing a lot of initial Pilots they're doing a lot of initial Pilots right coming out of a PO but the use right coming out of a PO but the use right coming out of a PO but the use cases like the one that David always cases like the one that David always cases like the one that David always talks about which is talks about which is talks about which is coverage and I think they're pushing coverage and I think they're pushing coverage and I think they're pushing sort of the envelope of Roi meaning um

sort of the envelope of Roi meaning um sort of the envelope of Roi meaning um they're taking more of the investment they're taking more of the investment they're taking more of the investment than they they're probably seeing than they they're probably seeing than they they're probably seeing returns and it's going to be a journey returns and it's going to be a journey returns and it's going to be a journey for them right and so I I got to get the for them right and so I I got to get the for them right and so I I got to get the sort of the I got the details from him sort of the I got the details from him sort of the I got the details from him because you know during dinner you get because you know during dinner you get because you know during dinner you get to ask a lot more questions than you to ask a lot more questions than you to ask a lot more questions than you ever do on stage or you ever hear on ever do on stage or you ever hear on ever do on stage or you ever hear on stage but that's what I'm seeing so it's stage but that's what I'm seeing so it's stage but that's what I'm seeing so it's like a lot of other um technologies that like a lot of other um technologies that like a lot of other um technologies that are are are emerging you're going through a PC phase emerging you're going through a PC phase emerging you're going through a PC phase and people are just learning um and and people are just learning um and and people are just learning um and so I mean is private 5G going to happen so I mean is private 5G going to happen so I mean is private 5G going to happen yes but man uh what is it that I set up yes but man uh what is it that I set up yes but man uh what is it that I set up on stage uh I think I said it smells on stage uh I think I said it smells on stage uh I think I said it smells like or no team spirit it's a lot like like or no team spirit it's a lot like like or no team spirit it's a lot like iots smells like team actually good idea iots smells like team actually good idea iots smells like team actually good idea that we should have played that instead that we should have played that instead that we should have played that instead but um I would have probably far to hell but um I would have probably far to hell but um I would have probably far to hell of a lot better of a lot better of a lot better um yeah um yeah um yeah um it you know private 5G is a lot like um it you know private 5G is a lot like um it you know private 5G is a lot like iot you know iot you know iot you know and but I was hoping that someone would and but I was hoping that someone would and but I was hoping that someone would have brought have brought have brought up had meetings with many of the other up had meetings with many of the other up had meetings with many of the other module module module manufacturers and it's still a very high manufacturers and it's still a very high manufacturers and it's still a very high price to pay for modules and right right price to pay for modules and right right price to pay for modules and right right right and and no one really talked about right and and no one really talked about right and and no one really talked about that I mean you know you can have 5G on that I mean you know you can have 5G on that I mean you know you can have 5G on the manufacturing line Mr John Deere but

the manufacturing line Mr John Deere but the manufacturing line Mr John Deere but aren't your average costs so aren't your average costs so aren't your average costs so significantly higher to do the same kind significantly higher to do the same kind significantly higher to do the same kind of functionality that you're doing on of functionality that you're doing on of functionality that you're doing on say Wi-Fi say Wi-Fi say Wi-Fi 6 exactly I mean that's what I'm saying 6 exactly I mean that's what I'm saying 6 exactly I mean that's what I'm saying it's it they're pushing the eye and it's it they're pushing the eye and it's it they're pushing the eye and they're trying to figure out what's the they're trying to figure out what's the they're trying to figure out what's the return so they'll put these things out return so they'll put these things out return so they'll put these things out there they're doing the invest in these there they're doing the invest in these there they're doing the invest in these modules and and connecting uh devices modules and and connecting uh devices modules and and connecting uh devices and thingies uh on a 5G network but you and thingies uh on a 5G network but you and thingies uh on a 5G network but you know some of the applications are pretty know some of the applications are pretty know some of the applications are pretty basic right yeah oh yeah I mean there basic right yeah oh yeah I mean there basic right yeah oh yeah I mean there were instant repeat applications yeah were instant repeat applications yeah were instant repeat applications yeah and and then you know the the networks and and then you know the the networks and and then you know the the networks are expensive but that's where I think are expensive but that's where I think are expensive but that's where I think this this this whole um make it as easy as WiFi whole um make it as easy as WiFi whole um make it as easy as WiFi argument is I don't think that's going argument is I don't think that's going argument is I don't think that's going to work you know because it to work you know because it to work you know because it easy well that's a way to torpedo your easy well that's a way to torpedo your easy well that's a way to torpedo your whole project I wish this was easy as whole project I wish this was easy as whole project I wish this was easy as Wi-Fi oh wait why don't we just use Wi-Fi oh wait why don't we just use Wi-Fi oh wait why don't we just use Wi-Fi that's Wi-Fi that's Wi-Fi that's already that's already around us that's already that's already around us that's already that's already around us that's built into every freaking product ever built into every freaking product ever built into every freaking product ever made why do we just use Wi-Fi oh I hear made why do we just use Wi-Fi oh I hear made why do we just use Wi-Fi oh I hear that new Wii 7 is be 30 gigabit good that new Wii 7 is be 30 gigabit good that new Wii 7 is be 30 gigabit good luck 5G that good luck I went to I went luck 5G that good luck I went to I went luck 5G that good luck I went to I went to a session on Wi-Fi 6 that came in to a session on Wi-Fi 6 that came in to a session on Wi-Fi 6 that came in became a bs7 session became a bs7 session became a bs7 session and I was like holy crap guys if you and I was like holy crap guys if you and I was like holy crap guys if you want to get nothing done go down this

want to get nothing done go down this want to get nothing done go down this road and hear and to hear you say that road and hear and to hear you say that road and hear and to hear you say that private 5G is is like iot the first private 5G is is like iot the first private 5G is is like iot the first thing that popped in my head is solution thing that popped in my head is solution thing that popped in my head is solution in search of a problem in search of a problem in search of a problem yeah everybody's trying to shoehorn yeah everybody's trying to shoehorn yeah everybody's trying to shoehorn private 5G into a place where they private 5G into a place where they private 5G into a place where they already have private wireless networks already have private wireless networks already have private wireless networks already somehow I mean I mean Rob I mean already somehow I mean I mean Rob I mean already somehow I mean I mean Rob I mean is do you have enough fingers and toes is do you have enough fingers and toes is do you have enough fingers and toes to come up with use cases that say I to come up with use cases that say I to come up with use cases that say I have to do the 5G throughput and the have to do the 5G throughput and the have to do the 5G throughput and the latency I me exactly I mean I understand latency I me exactly I mean I understand latency I me exactly I mean I understand video I understand Mech I understand video I understand Mech I understand video I understand Mech I understand cbrs for Mech yeah well the thing is and cbrs for Mech yeah well the thing is and cbrs for Mech yeah well the thing is and you're right about that Leonard because you're right about that Leonard because you're right about that Leonard because how many people in the how many people in the how many people in the stadium have ban 48 in their stadium have ban 48 in their stadium have ban 48 in their phone yeah and and you need to we need phone yeah and and you need to we need phone yeah and and you need to we need to be careful about Mech as well I mean to be careful about Mech as well I mean to be careful about Mech as well I mean oper Mech and The Operators Network um oper Mech and The Operators Network um oper Mech and The Operators Network um has to be worked out in its own way do has to be worked out in its own way do has to be worked out in its own way do you know what Mech rhymes with no you know what Mech rhymes with no you know what Mech rhymes with no traction traction traction w w w he's a horrible rhyme I mean the word he's a horrible rhyme I mean the word he's a horrible rhyme I mean the word was right there from was right there from was right there from wck W silent I get I'm getting I'm wck W silent I get I'm getting I'm wck W silent I get I'm getting I'm starting my lessons this week with Dr starting my lessons this week with Dr starting my lessons this week with Dr Dre hopefully I'll get Dre hopefully I'll get Dre hopefully I'll get better you know as far as as far as get better you know as far as as far as get better you know as far as as far as get my Rhymes down but yes that's what Mech my Rhymes down but yes that's what Mech my Rhymes down but yes that's what Mech rhymes with no traction lots of talk no

rhymes with no traction lots of talk no rhymes with no traction lots of talk no traction yeah yeah um but um so David traction yeah yeah um but um so David traction yeah yeah um but um so David you need to say something because you're you need to say something because you're you need to say something because you're way too damn quiet I mean seriously he's way too damn quiet I mean seriously he's way too damn quiet I mean seriously he's looking at this train like I don't want looking at this train like I don't want looking at this train like I don't want to well you know you might have to poo to well you know you might have to poo to well you know you might have to poo poo too many thing poo too many thing poo too many thing people no but you know as you I think people no but you know as you I think people no but you know as you I think you were very COI and saying you know you were very COI and saying you know you were very COI and saying you know these things are getting deployed and these things are getting deployed and these things are getting deployed and this application and you know no Roi and this application and you know no Roi and this application and you know no Roi and I'm like dude are you just saying that I'm like dude are you just saying that I'm like dude are you just saying that these deployments are being subsidized these deployments are being subsidized these deployments are being subsidized let's call them for what they are right let's call them for what they are right let's call them for what they are right I subsidize a deployment in order to I subsidize a deployment in order to I subsidize a deployment in order to drive out that that that's okay but you drive out that that that's okay but you drive out that that that's okay but you know that's that's out there uh so I was know that's that's out there uh so I was know that's that's out there uh so I was thinking about saying that in a nice way thinking about saying that in a nice way thinking about saying that in a nice way like it just came like it just came like it just came out and you know Rob the whole I I out and you know Rob the whole I I out and you know Rob the whole I I really laughed at the as easy as Wi-Fi really laughed at the as easy as Wi-Fi really laughed at the as easy as Wi-Fi and I almost I almost want to defend a and I almost I almost want to defend a and I almost I almost want to defend a part of it because I think it's it's part of it because I think it's it's part of it because I think it's it's from a management perspective Like from a management perspective Like from a management perspective Like Apples to Apples like I have I deploy Apples to Apples like I have I deploy Apples to Apples like I have I deploy Wi-Fi I deploy private like it's Wi-Fi I deploy private like it's Wi-Fi I deploy private like it's deployed if we go back to how do I deployed if we go back to how do I deployed if we go back to how do I manage it no no it's they're they're manage it no no it's they're they're manage it no no it's they're they're quite easy and quite easy and quite easy and comparable um but yeah but what would be comparable um but yeah but what would be comparable um but yeah but what would be easier if I already have Wi-Fi than to easier if I already have Wi-Fi than to easier if I already have Wi-Fi than to just upgrade my Wi-Fi if we're going to just upgrade my Wi-Fi if we're going to just upgrade my Wi-Fi if we're going to stick to e um and look if we want to stick to e um and look if we want to stick to e um and look if we want to pigeon hole use cases um and you know pigeon hole use cases um and you know pigeon hole use cases um and you know and I know that I'm I'm in a different and I know that I'm I'm in a different and I know that I'm I'm in a different horse now but dude it's about access horse now but dude it's about access horse now but dude it's about access it's access it's access it's access does it's access it's access it's access does it's access it's access it's access does the End customer really really care

the End customer really really care the End customer really really care about how they get that access and if about how they get that access and if about how they get that access and if they do hey man yay all right awesome they do hey man yay all right awesome they do hey man yay all right awesome but it's access I will forever be happy but it's access I will forever be happy but it's access I will forever be happy that with private Wireless there's an that with private Wireless there's an that with private Wireless there's an additional option and if and if it makes additional option and if and if it makes additional option and if and if it makes sense for you know customers are really sense for you know customers are really sense for you know customers are really smart if they like that option they can smart if they like that option they can smart if they like that option they can deploy it um I love that it's mature deploy it um I love that it's mature deploy it um I love that it's mature because we've been doing private because we've been doing private because we've been doing private networks for a long long long time so networks for a long long long time so networks for a long long long time so you're messing around uh you have you you're messing around uh you have you you're messing around uh you have you know when Steve mentioned Vegas being know when Steve mentioned Vegas being know when Steve mentioned Vegas being lit up you know the guys from uh Vapor lit up you know the guys from uh Vapor lit up you know the guys from uh Vapor iio these guys are popping up data iio these guys are popping up data iio these guys are popping up data centers where no one else wanted to put centers where no one else wanted to put centers where no one else wanted to put data centers and now they're taking all data centers and now they're taking all data centers and now they're taking all that traffic from Big carriers that they that traffic from Big carriers that they that traffic from Big carriers that they don't want to deploy their Mech you know don't want to deploy their Mech you know don't want to deploy their Mech you know like the part the parts are there but like the part the parts are there but like the part the parts are there but you know I'm just going back to axis and you know I'm just going back to axis and you know I'm just going back to axis and options and uh you know Long Long Live options and uh you know Long Long Live options and uh you know Long Long Live private 5G but that that's a good point private 5G but that that's a good point private 5G but that that's a good point though so one of the points I made up on though so one of the points I made up on though so one of the points I made up on stage was um it needs to find a home uh stage was um it needs to find a home uh stage was um it needs to find a home uh and figure out where it fits in the and figure out where it fits in the and figure out where it fits in the community community of a lot of community community of a lot of community community of a lot of contending options right and then contending options right and then contending options right and then there's a lot of complexity you have the there's a lot of complexity you have the there's a lot of complexity you have the unlicensed shared licensed models or or unlicensed shared licensed models or or unlicensed shared licensed models or or you know models that go off of those you know models that go off of those you know models that go off of those varieties of spectrum varieties of spectrum varieties of spectrum regimes and you know it's very regimes and you know it's very regimes and you know it's very complicated and and that's why I go back complicated and and that's why I go back complicated and and that's why I go back to the my statement about iot is that to the my statement about iot is that to the my statement about iot is that there's so much there's so much there's so much diversity of scenarios and um you know

diversity of scenarios and um you know diversity of scenarios and um you know Solutions uh it's just like iot and and Solutions uh it's just like iot and and Solutions uh it's just like iot and and so can you so can you so can you scale it's gon toate I think private 5G scale it's gon toate I think private 5G scale it's gon toate I think private 5G I think private 5G found a home at the I think private 5G found a home at the I think private 5G found a home at the food court at the Las Vegas Convention food court at the Las Vegas Convention food court at the Las Vegas Convention Center that's a great use case right you Center that's a great use case right you Center that's a great use case right you know where I you know where iot found know where I you know where iot found know where I you know where iot found its home at the Hyatt regiony bar next its home at the Hyatt regiony bar next its home at the Hyatt regiony bar next to Santa Clara Convention Center millions and millions and Center millions and millions and millions of dollars of deals in that millions of dollars of deals in that millions of dollars of deals in that Lobby baby yeah all day for a long long Lobby baby yeah all day for a long long Lobby baby yeah all day for a long long time too there you go there you go you time too there you go there you go you time too there you go there you go you know you know that go out into the know you know that go out into the know you know that go out into the hallway to the CIO of Los Vegas and I hallway to the CIO of Los Vegas and I hallway to the CIO of Los Vegas and I said here you got this F1 race coming to said here you got this F1 race coming to said here you got this F1 race coming to town and I was talking to some of the F1 town and I was talking to some of the F1 town and I was talking to some of the F1 it people because I was a bidder on the it people because I was a bidder on the it people because I was a bidder on the iot space for that with a with a SI know iot space for that with a with a SI know iot space for that with a with a SI know that he refuses to allow Formula 1 to that he refuses to allow Formula 1 to that he refuses to allow Formula 1 to utilize his private 5G Network in town utilize his private 5G Network in town utilize his private 5G Network in town no so f1's having to put up their own no so f1's having to put up their own no so f1's having to put up their own network to do it good for them I mean network to do it good for them I mean network to do it good for them I mean they should I mean but they probably they should I mean but they probably they should I mean but they probably always have right I mean everything we always have right I mean everything we always have right I mean everything we learn about the bleeding edge of iot you learn about the bleeding edge of iot you learn about the bleeding edge of iot you learn from Formula One actually right learn from Formula One actually right learn from Formula One actually right correct yeah yeah these guys were doing correct yeah yeah these guys were doing correct yeah yeah these guys were doing this stuff way before we were and

this stuff way before we were and this stuff way before we were and they're doing it at the most bleeding they're doing it at the most bleeding they're doing it at the most bleeding edge like we can't even imagine correct edge like we can't even imagine correct edge like we can't even imagine correct well I'm I'm GNA leave with the well I'm I'm GNA leave with the well I'm I'm GNA leave with the following two things number one following two things number one following two things number one Telemetry folks Telemetry Formula One Telemetry folks Telemetry Formula One Telemetry folks Telemetry Formula One and uh and you know it will be I am and uh and you know it will be I am and uh and you know it will be I am eager to hear from so in this case Steve eager to hear from so in this case Steve eager to hear from so in this case Steve if uh if you have a private Network by if uh if you have a private Network by if uh if you have a private Network by the city and a private Network by in the city and a private Network by in the city and a private Network by in this case Formula 1 I really want to this case Formula 1 I really want to this case Formula 1 I really want to hear like the real world implications hear like the real world implications hear like the real world implications outside of reading a paper of what outside of reading a paper of what outside of reading a paper of what happened in the Middle with those happened in the Middle with those happened in the Middle with those devices like from an interfer from an devices like from an interfer from an devices like from an interfer from an interference standpoint yeah yeah like interference standpoint yeah yeah like interference standpoint yeah yeah like like does it really make a difference like does it really make a difference like does it really make a difference does it just what what happens outside does it just what what happens outside does it just what what happens outside of a lab outside of a paper what was the of a lab outside of a paper what was the of a lab outside of a paper what was the experience I would I would love to know experience I would I would love to know experience I would I would love to know um I don't know I don't I don't know um I don't know I don't I don't know um I don't know I don't I don't know that it's it's talked about enough even that it's it's talked about enough even that it's it's talked about enough even though you today they are neighbors if though you today they are neighbors if though you today they are neighbors if we think of factories and Farms it's we think of factories and Farms it's we think of factories and Farms it's going to happen you're growing going to happen you're growing going to happen you're growing pineapples I'm growing whatever we're pineapples I'm growing whatever we're pineapples I'm growing whatever we're neighbors what what happens in the neighbors what what happens in the neighbors what what happens in the overlap uh overlap uh overlap uh anyway peace out anyway peace out anyway peace out guys cheers bye see you man you I mean guys cheers bye see you man you I mean guys cheers bye see you man you I mean that is a great point because we have we that is a great point because we have we that is a great point because we have we really it took us many years in 3G Land really it took us many years in 3G Land really it took us many years in 3G Land to figure out the interference issues to figure out the interference issues to figure out the interference issues that we were having um in that frequency that we were having um in that frequency that we were having um in that frequency range and I don't know if we're doing range and I don't know if we're doing range and I don't know if we're doing enough enough enough to I don't know I don't know I think to I don't know I don't know I think to I don't know I don't know I think it's gonna but that that might be one of it's gonna but that that might be one of it's gonna but that that might be one of the advantages of of um private 5G um

the advantages of of um private 5G um the advantages of of um private 5G um because it has the ability and capacity because it has the ability and capacity because it has the ability and capacity to address a lot of those you know to address a lot of those you know to address a lot of those you know beyond what WiFi can provide especially beyond what WiFi can provide especially beyond what WiFi can provide especially in a congested in a congested in a congested environment um I mean but still you know environment um I mean but still you know environment um I mean but still you know compared to wired so that that's the compared to wired so that that's the compared to wired so that that's the problem it compared to problem it compared to problem it compared to wired you know um can you deliver those wired you know um can you deliver those wired you know um can you deliver those um you know 69 you know what I'm saying um you know 69 you know what I'm saying um you know 69 you know what I'm saying that's really freaking tough cuz I mean that's really freaking tough cuz I mean that's really freaking tough cuz I mean think about your smartphone when you go think about your smartphone when you go think about your smartphone when you go into a congested area all of a sudden into a congested area all of a sudden into a congested area all of a sudden you're smartphone that you're smartphone that you're smartphone that behaves awesome in a uh let's say in a behaves awesome in a uh let's say in a behaves awesome in a uh let's say in a mall where not a lot of people are maybe mall where not a lot of people are maybe mall where not a lot of people are maybe using downloading stuff I mean you know using downloading stuff I mean you know using downloading stuff I mean you know this and this is the funny thing you go this and this is the funny thing you go this and this is the funny thing you go to a mall that's crowd you don't have a to a mall that's crowd you don't have a to a mall that's crowd you don't have a lot of people watching YouTube videos lot of people watching YouTube videos lot of people watching YouTube videos what they do is you get like all this what they do is you get like all this what they do is you get like all this great Down lead load speed and you know great Down lead load speed and you know great Down lead load speed and you know um you know they not a lot of um you know they not a lot of um you know they not a lot of utilization right and utilization right and utilization right and um uh and so but then when you go into a um uh and so but then when you go into a um uh and so but then when you go into a really congested area like New York like really congested area like New York like really congested area like New York like let's say um Time Square and in New York let's say um Time Square and in New York let's say um Time Square and in New York all of a sudden your phone all of a sudden your phone all of a sudden your phone is behaving really really weird and is behaving really really weird and is behaving really really weird and Performing very Performing very Performing very poorly and in a commercial environment poorly and in a commercial environment poorly and in a commercial environment or even a warehouse where you have all or even a warehouse where you have all or even a warehouse where you have all these agvs and mobile elements in the uh

these agvs and mobile elements in the uh these agvs and mobile elements in the uh in the on the floor um is any Wireless in the on the floor um is any Wireless in the on the floor um is any Wireless option um reliable enough right and so option um reliable enough right and so option um reliable enough right and so from a system design perspective how are from a system design perspective how are from a system design perspective how are you actually going to you actually going to you actually going to engineer that system of systems you know engineer that system of systems you know engineer that system of systems you know you're probably going to put a hell of a you're probably going to put a hell of a you're probably going to put a hell of a lot more Intelligence on device so that lot more Intelligence on device so that lot more Intelligence on device so that there's a you know sort of a there's a you know sort of a there's a you know sort of a semi-autonomous uh more of a semi-autonomous uh more of a semi-autonomous uh more of a semi-autonomous capability on it or more semi-autonomous capability on it or more semi-autonomous capability on it or more autonomous capability on it than you autonomous capability on it than you autonomous capability on it than you would have otherwise you know and then would have otherwise you know and then would have otherwise you know and then you wonder who's responsible for it is you wonder who's responsible for it is you wonder who's responsible for it is it a JMA and Federated and any of those it a JMA and Federated and any of those it a JMA and Federated and any of those types of organizations that are types of organizations that are types of organizations that are installing the 5G private stuff or is it installing the 5G private stuff or is it installing the 5G private stuff or is it the FCC that actually you know requires the FCC that actually you know requires the FCC that actually you know requires you to have the license and and go you to have the license and and go you to have the license and and go through the right I mean that's the through the right I mean that's the through the right I mean that's the other thing too because when I I just other thing too because when I I just other thing too because when I I just look at those guys okay I'm just putting look at those guys okay I'm just putting look at those guys okay I'm just putting boxes up I'm putting antennas up I'm boxes up I'm putting antennas up I'm boxes up I'm putting antennas up I'm putting amplifiers up yeah doing really putting amplifiers up yeah doing really putting amplifiers up yeah doing really basic you know Network planning and site basic you know Network planning and site basic you know Network planning and site surveys and stuff and it's like you know surveys and stuff and it's like you know surveys and stuff and it's like you know some of the more critical stuff that some of the more critical stuff that some of the more critical stuff that competes with wired right for these competes with wired right for these competes with wired right for these important important important connections they're not and that's why I connections they're not and that's why I connections they're not and that's why I go back to yeah I agree with David uh go back to yeah I agree with David uh go back to yeah I agree with David uh making some as as easy as Wi-Fi is great making some as as easy as Wi-Fi is great making some as as easy as Wi-Fi is great but the thing is is that uh the the but the thing is is that uh the the but the thing is is that uh the the critical these differentiated critical these differentiated critical these differentiated functions are not easy as WiFi you know

functions are not easy as WiFi you know functions are not easy as WiFi you know um and you know what I came up with a um and you know what I came up with a um and you know what I came up with a solution for the whole thing what solution for the whole thing what solution for the whole thing what because there's obviously wired is the because there's obviously wired is the because there's obviously wired is the best but for things that are moving best but for things that are moving best but for things that are moving around like AGS that's kind of a problem around like AGS that's kind of a problem around like AGS that's kind of a problem so here is the solution it's so here is the solution it's so here is the solution it's like like like like the really long phone cords have like the really long phone cords have like the really long phone cords have like 70s you know where you stretch the like 70s you know where you stretch the like 70s you know where you stretch the phone all the way house yeah that's the phone all the way house yeah that's the phone all the way house yeah that's the solution for agbs long curly solution for agbs long curly solution for agbs long curly q so that's the princess iot phone cord q so that's the princess iot phone cord q so that's the princess iot phone cord scenario yes princess iot phone cord is scenario yes princess iot phone cord is scenario yes princess iot phone cord is the solution you heard it here folks the solution you heard it here folks the solution you heard it here folks boom boom there you go go ahead go ahead boom boom there you go go ahead go ahead boom boom there you go go ahead go ahead and just send theno me and just send theno me and just send theno me Millions go Millions go Millions go ahead ahead ahead you putting them together in my you putting them together in my you putting them together in my garage exactly exactly gets from the 70s garage exactly exactly gets from the 70s garage exactly exactly gets from the 70s you know you know like when you watch you know you know like when you watch you know you know like when you watch The Brady Bunch and they're on the phone The Brady Bunch and they're on the phone The Brady Bunch and they're on the phone and walking across halfway across the and walking across halfway across the and walking across halfway across the house that's agbs house that's agbs house that's agbs boom boom boom no I'm tired I'm no I'm tired I'm no I'm tired I'm spard learn last week what other words spard learn last week what other words spard learn last week what other words of wisdom or things of of grandeur that of wisdom or things of of grandeur that of wisdom or things of of grandeur that you saw last week um uh yeah I think uh you saw last week um uh yeah I think uh you saw last week um uh yeah I think uh well number one there weren't that many well number one there weren't that many well number one there weren't that many people there people there people there um that was it wow okay cuz they were

um that was it wow okay cuz they were um that was it wow okay cuz they were claiming nine but yeah you know rob it claiming nine but yeah you know rob it claiming nine but yeah you know rob it would have definitely not been your uh would have definitely not been your uh would have definitely not been your uh worth your while to come out um see now worth your while to come out um see now worth your while to come out um see now how many meetings did you have I had a how many meetings did you have I had a how many meetings did you have I had a ton I I had packed day I was packed all ton I I had packed day I was packed all ton I I had packed day I was packed all day breakfast at seagulls to dinner day breakfast at seagulls to dinner day breakfast at seagulls to dinner somewhere else I mean yeah somewhere else I mean yeah somewhere else I mean yeah literally days every day is breakfast at literally days every day is breakfast at literally days every day is breakfast at Seagull for you Seagull for you Seagull for you yeah no but you know Rob in the morning yeah no but you know Rob in the morning yeah no but you know Rob in the morning you know Rob honestly Rob likes to roam you know Rob honestly Rob likes to roam you know Rob honestly Rob likes to roam around the ex exhibit hall and yeah that around the ex exhibit hall and yeah that around the ex exhibit hall and yeah that would not worked he would have gotten would not worked he would have gotten would not worked he would have gotten bored pretty quick yeah so any of my bored pretty quick yeah so any of my bored pretty quick yeah so any of my clients that had boots you know were clients that had boots you know were clients that had boots you know were complaining about the traffic or lack complaining about the traffic or lack complaining about the traffic or lack thereof yeah and I said have you gone to thereof yeah and I said have you gone to thereof yeah and I said have you gone to the food court over there and I they go the food court over there and I they go the food court over there and I they go well yeah I said there are thousands of well yeah I said there are thousands of well yeah I said there are thousands of people having meetings yeah thousands of people having meetings yeah thousands of people having meetings yeah thousands of people having meetings from Morning Noon people having meetings from Morning Noon people having meetings from Morning Noon toight yeah this is a if you are here toight yeah this is a if you are here toight yeah this is a if you are here for business everybody is here yeah well for business everybody is here yeah well for business everybody is here yeah well that's true yeah therefore set up your that's true yeah therefore set up your that's true yeah therefore set up your booth in the in the middle of the food booth in the in the middle of the food booth in the in the middle of the food court yeah I mean you know you saw court yeah I mean you know you saw court yeah I mean you know you saw everybody like I saw Steve everybody like I saw Steve everybody like I saw Steve there and then he didn't recognize me there and then he didn't recognize me there and then he didn't recognize me there were so many people you know so there were so many people you know so there were so many people you know so many Asian guys that all looked the same

many Asian guys that all looked the same many Asian guys that all looked the same help me help me help me Rob get Rob get Rob get uglier uglier uglier wow took us off the air right there dude wow took us off the air right there dude wow took us off the air right there dude yeah so so much for yeah yeah wow yeah so so much for yeah yeah wow yeah so so much for yeah yeah wow no thank you Steve for showing up for my speech no thanks for that um no I really speech no thanks for that um no I really appreciate it but you're right and I appreciate it but you're right and I appreciate it but you're right and I jokingly uh not too jokingly actually jokingly uh not too jokingly actually jokingly uh not too jokingly actually semi-serious is um you know suggesting semi-serious is um you know suggesting semi-serious is um you know suggesting gsma and CTI rent tables and block off gsma and CTI rent tables and block off gsma and CTI rent tables and block off maybe half of that area for eat only cuz maybe half of that area for eat only cuz maybe half of that area for eat only cuz you know it was so hard if you if you you know it was so hard if you if you you know it was so hard if you if you ordered any food in in that food court ordered any food in in that food court ordered any food in in that food court you couldn't find a place to sit there's you couldn't find a place to sit there's you couldn't find a place to sit there's like people sitting in these um you know like people sitting in these um you know like people sitting in these um you know on in these tables Al ever you know it's on in these tables Al ever you know it's on in these tables Al ever you know it's like man if you're not eating get the like man if you're not eating get the like man if you're not eating get the freaking hell out man what's what's freaking hell out man what's what's freaking hell out man what's what's wrong with you people go get a well it's wrong with you people go get a well it's wrong with you people go get a well it's interesting you say that because um I interesting you say that because um I interesting you say that because um I did say something to someone at did say something to someone at did say something to someone at gsma because there was so much excess gsma because there was so much excess gsma because there was so much excess room on the show floor and there was no room on the show floor and there was no room on the show floor and there was no food in the show floor unless you did food in the show floor unless you did food in the show floor unless you did your own private reception kind of thing your own private reception kind of thing your own private reception kind of thing like that like that like that you're 100% right I mean that I mean why you're 100% right I mean that I mean why you're 100% right I mean that I mean why wouldn't you do that to make more room wouldn't you do that to make more room wouldn't you do that to make more room because I mean no one was spending because I mean no one was spending because I mean no one was spending $110,000 for a meeting unless you $110,000 for a meeting unless you $110,000 for a meeting unless you really did it you know I mean it's just really did it you know I mean it's just really did it you know I mean it's just like yeah yeah and then you know if they like yeah yeah and then you know if they like yeah yeah and then you know if they you can only take so many hits like this

you can only take so many hits like this you can only take so many hits like this I mean last year was a little bit like I mean last year was a little bit like I mean last year was a little bit like that um this year everybody really want that um this year everybody really want that um this year everybody really want Cheapo and uh and a lot of folks who Cheapo and uh and a lot of folks who Cheapo and uh and a lot of folks who bought bought bought space um they're they're going man we're space um they're they're going man we're space um they're they're going man we're not going to do this next year you know not going to do this next year you know not going to do this next year you know um and I heard a lot of folks say that um and I heard a lot of folks say that um and I heard a lot of folks say that well I mean it's gotten priced out I well I mean it's gotten priced out I well I mean it's gotten priced out I mean it's just it's too damn expensive mean it's just it's too damn expensive mean it's just it's too damn expensive to do a 10 by 10 at right right but to do a 10 by 10 at right right but to do a 10 by 10 at right right but they're gonna I talk to John Hoffman they're gonna I talk to John Hoffman they're gonna I talk to John Hoffman briefly you know I didn't want to bother briefly you know I didn't want to bother briefly you know I didn't want to bother him too much um and he said that they're him too much um and he said that they're him too much um and he said that they're going to make a pivot next year toward going to make a pivot next year toward going to make a pivot next year toward industrial Enterprise which I think is industrial Enterprise which I think is industrial Enterprise which I think is smart but the challenge is how do you smart but the challenge is how do you smart but the challenge is how do you get buyers Enterprise level buyers in get buyers Enterprise level buyers in get buyers Enterprise level buyers in there and um and users right and then there and um and users right and then there and um and users right and then does this become let's say an SI type of does this become let's say an SI type of does this become let's say an SI type of event versus a Telco Tech event you know event versus a Telco Tech event you know event versus a Telco Tech event you know what it's it's almost like default right what it's it's almost like default right what it's it's almost like default right I mean I mean if you look at the 8,000 I mean I mean if you look at the 8,000 I mean I mean if you look at the 8,000 9,000 people you know six or 7 thousand 9,000 people you know six or 7 thousand 9,000 people you know six or 7 thousand of them are wanting to do business with of them are wanting to do business with of them are wanting to do business with each other because iot requires each other because iot requires each other because iot requires a full array of people in order to a full array of people in order to a full array of people in order to provide this solution to a customer yeah provide this solution to a customer yeah provide this solution to a customer yeah yeah yeah but I I yeah yeah but I I yeah yeah but I I think key audiences for that kind of think key audiences for that kind of think key audiences for that kind of agenda or Focus are are missing I mean agenda or Focus are are missing I mean agenda or Focus are are missing I mean you know the John Deere guy you know you know the John Deere guy you know you know the John Deere guy you know John Deere showing up is awesome it's

John Deere showing up is awesome it's John Deere showing up is awesome it's great um that's those are the types of great um that's those are the types of great um that's those are the types of people so our next year he's a vendor people so our next year he's a vendor people so our next year he's a vendor talking to talking to talking to vendors no he's a end end user talking vendors no he's a end end user talking vendors no he's a end end user talking to vendor Enders no he is the IT guy for to vendor Enders no he is the IT guy for to vendor Enders no he is the IT guy for John Deere who sells those you know he John Deere who sells those you know he John Deere who sells those you know he uses his services for himself right yeah uses his services for himself right yeah uses his services for himself right yeah end user he's not he's not necessarily a end user he's not he's not necessarily a end user he's not he's not necessarily a vendor looking for an end user yeah yeah vendor looking for an end user yeah yeah vendor looking for an end user yeah yeah yeah exactly but you know that's what yeah exactly but you know that's what yeah exactly but you know that's what you want to match the question is how do you want to match the question is how do you want to match the question is how do you get more of the John deers at the you get more of the John deers at the you get more of the John deers at the event talking about Enterprise and event talking about Enterprise and event talking about Enterprise and Industrial and then does this become an Industrial and then does this become an Industrial and then does this become an iot thing you know like industrial 4.0 iot thing you know like industrial 4.0 iot thing you know like industrial 4.0 are you competing with some of the AR are you competing with some of the AR are you competing with some of the AR you know like uh Hanover Messi type of you know like uh Hanover Messi type of you know like uh Hanover Messi type of thing you know right which might not be thing you know right which might not be thing you know right which might not be a bad bad idea you know but then it's so a bad bad idea you know but then it's so a bad bad idea you know but then it's so you could just get the tiniest fraction you could just get the tiniest fraction you could just get the tiniest fraction of the audience that Hanover gets you of the audience that Hanover gets you of the audience that Hanover gets you would be so would be so would be so thrilled oh my God that would be insane thrilled oh my God that would be insane thrilled oh my God that would be insane well I'm definitely next year a few well I'm definitely next year a few well I'm definitely next year a few minutes ago somebody mentioned the minutes ago somebody mentioned the minutes ago somebody mentioned the letter CTI do we remember remember back letter CTI do we remember remember back letter CTI do we remember remember back when they used to have their own events when they used to have their own events when they used to have their own events I I I remember and they drove and users to remember and they drove and users to remember and they drove and users to those with a variety of different um those with a variety of different um those with a variety of different um sessions and events that were driving sessions and events that were driving sessions and events that were driving and users to attend yeah I'll be right and users to attend yeah I'll be right and users to attend yeah I'll be right back okay sorry I'll be right back I

back okay sorry I'll be right back I back okay sorry I'll be right back I think Rob the other thing too for you think Rob the other thing too for you think Rob the other thing too for you and I I mean when you look at some of and I I mean when you look at some of and I I mean when you look at some of these events that we go to um I'm going these events that we go to um I'm going these events that we go to um I'm going to I'm going to bring back do you to I'm going to bring back do you to I'm going to bring back do you remember this like the CIO symposiums remember this like the CIO symposiums remember this like the CIO symposiums and some of those types of CIO magazine and some of those types of CIO magazine and some of those types of CIO magazine used to do those events and stuff that's used to do those events and stuff that's used to do those events and stuff that's where all the end users were the CEO CIO where all the end users were the CEO CIO where all the end users were the CEO CIO you know we used to go to the Harvard you know we used to go to the Harvard you know we used to go to the Harvard Club in New York and a couple of other Club in New York and a couple of other Club in New York and a couple of other things where enduser corporate things where enduser corporate things where enduser corporate Enterprise guys were at and we don't Enterprise guys were at and we don't Enterprise guys were at and we don't have them as much anymore that's a good have them as much anymore that's a good have them as much anymore that's a good point to get to drive those things point to get to drive those things point to get to drive those things because I'll look at the same thing you because I'll look at the same thing you because I'll look at the same thing you know between Austin and iot evolution of know between Austin and iot evolution of know between Austin and iot evolution of Fort Lauderdale and now ctia gsma or or Fort Lauderdale and now ctia gsma or or Fort Lauderdale and now ctia gsma or or mobile world congresses they're all mobile world congresses they're all mobile world congresses they're all vendor vendors you know I mean it's just vendor vendors you know I mean it's just vendor vendors you know I mean it's just every all of us kind of every all of us kind of every all of us kind of now was it good for people like me and now was it good for people like me and now was it good for people like me and you sure I mean you know because we you sure I mean you know because we you sure I mean you know because we can't do this on our own we have to have can't do this on our own we have to have can't do this on our own we have to have these Partnerships in in place uh right these Partnerships in in place uh right these Partnerships in in place uh right but for our but for our but for our clients not having end users to sell clients not having end users to sell clients not having end users to sell stuff to I can understand their stuff to I can understand their stuff to I can understand their frustration absolutely understand their frustration absolutely understand their frustration absolutely understand their frustration yeah no that makes sense I frustration yeah no that makes sense I frustration yeah no that makes sense I just don't know what the alternative is just don't know what the alternative is just don't know what the alternative is I mean I mean right now we're down to I mean I mean right now we're down to I mean I mean right now we're down to you know a handful of iot shows in the you know a handful of iot shows in the you know a handful of iot shows in the US that right you and I would want to go US that right you and I would want to go US that right you and I would want to go to unless it's verticalized like you

to unless it's verticalized like you to unless it's verticalized like you said like I'm going to oil and gas or said like I'm going to oil and gas or said like I'm going to oil and gas or I'm going to agriculture or I'm going to I'm going to agriculture or I'm going to I'm going to agriculture or I'm going to some kind of vertical Market segment some kind of vertical Market segment some kind of vertical Market segment show right show right show right right yeah well they're still doing right yeah well they're still doing right yeah well they're still doing their thing that you always go to in their thing that you always go to in their thing that you always go to in Fort Lauderdale is that right yeah iot Fort Lauderdale is that right yeah iot Fort Lauderdale is that right yeah iot Evolution still on for Evolution still on for Evolution still on for February that one pretty big right yeah February that one pretty big right yeah February that one pretty big right yeah I mean it's it's I mean I'm not sure I mean it's it's I mean I'm not sure I mean it's it's I mean I'm not sure it's 8,000 people but I mean it's it's it's 8,000 people but I mean it's it's it's 8,000 people but I mean it's it's big but again it's going back to it's a big but again it's going back to it's a big but again it's going back to it's a vendor focused event it's not vendor focused event it's not vendor focused event it's not necessarily you know an end user I mean necessarily you know an end user I mean necessarily you know an end user I mean I'm going to you know Leonard you I'm going to you know Leonard you I'm going to you know Leonard you brought up a great point you know when brought up a great point you know when brought up a great point you know when you look at the high Regency in Santa you look at the high Regency in Santa you look at the high Regency in Santa Clara I mean how many deals were made in Clara I mean how many deals were made in Clara I mean how many deals were made in that Lobby over a 10-year period of time that Lobby over a 10-year period of time that Lobby over a 10-year period of time at iot world that you know Rob and I at iot world that you know Rob and I at iot world that you know Rob and I complained about from two weeks ago um complained about from two weeks ago um complained about from two weeks ago um with end users being there with with end users being there with with end users being there with vendors you know and now that that [ __ ] vendors you know and now that that [ __ ] vendors you know and now that that [ __ ] doesn't happen and right so yeah I don't doesn't happen and right so yeah I don't doesn't happen and right so yeah I don't know how to get around it I don't I know how to get around it I don't I know how to get around it I don't I don't know how you drive end users to don't know how you drive end users to don't know how you drive end users to Las Vegas to the West Hall I just Las Vegas to the West Hall I just Las Vegas to the West Hall I just yeah you're right that's going to be the yeah you're right that's going to be the yeah you're right that's going to be the huge trick right that'll be the huge huge trick right that'll be the huge huge trick right that'll be the huge yeah so good luck to uh John and yeah yeah so good luck to uh John and yeah yeah so good luck to uh John and yeah dma and CTI but um yeah you know I think dma and CTI but um yeah you know I think dma and CTI but um yeah you know I think uh outside of T-Mobile I mean those guys uh outside of T-Mobile I mean those guys uh outside of T-Mobile I mean those guys are like probably the most non-m modest

are like probably the most non-m modest are like probably the most non-m modest group of serious money man like Hey we're of serious money man like Hey we're kicking everyone's butt the best you know speaking of events you the best you know speaking of events you remember we had that guy Steve cannon on remember we had that guy Steve cannon on remember we had that guy Steve cannon on yeah he's yeah he and I spent some time yeah he's yeah he and I spent some time yeah he's yeah he and I spent some time obviously we dropped the ball we we were obviously we dropped the ball we we were obviously we dropped the ball we we were gonna have a conference in Boseman gonna have a conference in Boseman gonna have a conference in Boseman Montana in August like an iot developer kind of August like an iot developer kind of conference in bosean that we tossed set conference in bosean that we tossed set conference in bosean that we tossed set around free fly around free fly around free fly fishing yes yes absolutely absolutely fishing yes yes absolutely absolutely fishing yes yes absolutely absolutely and I'm there for I I because I need and I'm there for I I because I need and I'm there for I I because I need some more Gila fish some more Gila fish some more Gila fish goil fish absolutely goil fish absolutely goil fish absolutely absolutely I I wish we hadn't dropped absolutely I I wish we hadn't dropped absolutely I I wish we hadn't dropped the ball on that that could have been the ball on that that could have been the ball on that that could have been kind of fun actually well and again you kind of fun actually well and again you kind of fun actually well and again you know yes I do think that we do need to know yes I do think that we do need to know yes I do think that we do need to have some more developer conferences in have some more developer conferences in have some more developer conferences in our space I mean there's so much going our space I mean there's so much going our space I mean there's so much going on from platforms to you know Services on from platforms to you know Services on from platforms to you know Services being provided and developers and things being provided and developers and things being provided and developers and things I mean I I'll give you an example you I mean I I'll give you an example you I mean I I'll give you an example you know I'm you know you guys know I'm know I'm you know you guys know I'm know I'm you know you guys know I'm doing this thing with scripts on atse 30 doing this thing with scripts on atse 30 doing this thing with scripts on atse 30 and I'm looking for application and I'm looking for application and I'm looking for application developers and systems integrators in developers and systems integrators in developers and systems integrators in Indianapolis Indianapolis Indianapolis Detroit Kansas City and Denver

Detroit Kansas City and Denver Detroit Kansas City and Denver Boulder that have iot mobile experience Boulder that have iot mobile experience Boulder that have iot mobile experience and if anybody is out there listening to and if anybody is out there listening to and if anybody is out there listening to us and iot Coffee Talk plan reach out to us and iot Coffee Talk plan reach out to us and iot Coffee Talk plan reach out to me because I'm looking for guys in those me because I'm looking for guys in those me because I'm looking for guys in those local markets to do testing and and local markets to do testing and and local markets to do testing and and mobile app development on the iot side mobile app development on the iot side mobile app development on the iot side for this and it's hard to find them yeah for this and it's hard to find them yeah for this and it's hard to find them yeah like where do where do you and I where like where do where do you and I where like where do where do you and I where do we go to find a application developer do we go to find a application developer do we go to find a application developer in iot land in in iot land in in iot land in Detroit Detroit Detroit yeah eight yeah eight yeah eight mil in in a trailer mil in in a trailer mil in in a trailer park well yeah it's kind of brutal is park well yeah it's kind of brutal is park well yeah it's kind of brutal is right yeah I right yeah I right yeah I mean I mean you you know I don't know mean I mean you you know I don't know mean I mean you you know I don't know how you I'm I'm trying I don't know how how you I'm I'm trying I don't know how how you I'm I'm trying I don't know how to go out and find them all who's the to go out and find them all who's the to go out and find them all who's the qualified guys I went to the women in qualified guys I went to the women in qualified guys I went to the women in Tech groups I went to the software Tech groups I went to the software Tech groups I went to the software developer groups I went to you know I've developer groups I went to you know I've developer groups I went to you know I've reached out to you know AWS iot and reached out to you know AWS iot and reached out to you know AWS iot and Azure iot and give me you know who's got Azure iot and give me you know who's got Azure iot and give me you know who's got who do you who's developing in those who do you who's developing in those who do you who's developing in those cities and they don't they they have no cities and they don't they they have no cities and they don't they they have no way of breaking down the database but way of breaking down the database but way of breaking down the database but interesting or they just don't want to interesting or they just don't want to interesting or they just don't want to share the numbers with you because but share the numbers with you because but share the numbers with you because but it would help them it'll be on their it would help them it'll be on their it would help them it'll be on their platform it would be more more more data platform it would be more more more data platform it would be more more more data consumption yeah if if there's demand consumption yeah if if there's demand consumption yeah if if there's demand but I I think the biggest but I I think the biggest but I I think the biggest challenge is generally awareness and if challenge is generally awareness and if challenge is generally awareness and if you can't get you can't get end users

you can't get you can't get end users you can't get you can't get end users and I don't mean just developers end and I don't mean just developers end and I don't mean just developers end users understanding why they need to users understanding why they need to users understanding why they need to care about what this developer is care about what this developer is care about what this developer is yapping about and then uh you know yapping about and then uh you know yapping about and then uh you know understand or even consider um the understand or even consider um the understand or even consider um the investment into let's say a cell a investment into let's say a cell a investment into let's say a cell a network of any kind uh ball doesn't move network of any kind uh ball doesn't move network of any kind uh ball doesn't move right but then see that's you know I I right but then see that's you know I I right but then see that's you know I I think the developer is a a convenient think the developer is a a convenient think the developer is a a convenient audience to audience to audience to approach um but if those end you know approach um but if those end you know approach um but if those end you know the the business the the business the the business stakeholders don't see that their stakeholders don't see that their stakeholders don't see that their developers are actually tuning into developers are actually tuning into developers are actually tuning into anything that's highly valuable to pay anything that's highly valuable to pay anything that's highly valuable to pay for the network investment nothing's for the network investment nothing's for the network investment nothing's really going to happen and then of really going to happen and then of really going to happen and then of course the trick is how do you filter course the trick is how do you filter course the trick is how do you filter out all the BS that you have to float to out all the BS that you have to float to out all the BS that you have to float to e you know the chum that you have to e you know the chum that you have to e you know the chum that you have to throw into the water to even draw end throw into the water to even draw end throw into the water to even draw end users to come to a you know a vendor users to come to a you know a vendor users to come to a you know a vendor well it's right now heavily a vendor well it's right now heavily a vendor well it's right now heavily a vendor vendor developer vendor developer vendor developer conference um cuz like we've been saying conference um cuz like we've been saying conference um cuz like we've been saying this whole time with iot the problem this whole time with iot the problem this whole time with iot the problem with it is it's like what problem are with it is it's like what problem are with it is it's like what problem are you trying to solve you know Bill always you trying to solve you know Bill always you trying to solve you know Bill always says that what problem are you trying to says that what problem are you trying to says that what problem are you trying to solve that's a business problem it's not solve that's a business problem it's not solve that's a business problem it's not the technical problem that pays the bill the technical problem that pays the bill the technical problem that pays the bill right and and that is the challenge and right and and that is the challenge and right and and that is the challenge and maybe that's why all of these guys

maybe that's why all of these guys maybe that's why all of these guys should have us on their counsil should have us on their counsil should have us on their counsil [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] hint hint yeah you know maybe we can hint hint yeah you know maybe we can hint hint yeah you know maybe we can help you figure it out because bring a help you figure it out because bring a help you figure it out because bring a great point I mean I I I always say that great point I mean I I I always say that great point I mean I I I always say that um today has never been a better day to um today has never been a better day to um today has never been a better day to be in the iot space because you can find be in the iot space because you can find be in the iot space because you can find anything and everything to solve a anything and everything to solve a anything and everything to solve a problem the problem problem the problem problem the problem is that how do you do that like what's is that how do you do that like what's is that how do you do that like what's the next step like you know like that the next step like you know like that the next step like you know like that you know because I mean I you you can you know because I mean I you you can you know because I mean I you you can like you know rob you know we we have like you know rob you know we we have like you know rob you know we we have the sensors we have the software we have the sensors we have the software we have the sensors we have the software we have the platforms we have the network we the platforms we have the network we the platforms we have the network we have the security aspects are covered we have the security aspects are covered we have the security aspects are covered we have the implementation we have the have the implementation we have the have the implementation we have the network options you got all that [ __ ] network options you got all that [ __ ] network options you got all that [ __ ] together boom put it all together we can together boom put it all together we can together boom put it all together we can solve customers problems right right solve customers problems right right solve customers problems right right yeah awareness where's the awareness yeah awareness where's the awareness yeah awareness where's the awareness that how do we get you know that out that how do we get you know that out that how do we get you know that out yeah and and and the connectivity I mean yeah and and and the connectivity I mean yeah and and and the connectivity I mean connectivity is not the full equation connectivity is not the full equation connectivity is not the full equation part Ian that's not the full equation part Ian that's not the full equation part Ian that's not the full equation it's just maybe one variable yeah it's just maybe one variable yeah it's just maybe one variable yeah because Steve already solved the because Steve already solved the because Steve already solved the connectivity thing years ago with helium connectivity thing years ago with helium connectivity thing years ago with helium oh yeah oh and oh and sidewalk sidewalk coming don't you talk sidewalk sidewalk coming don't you talk sidewalk sidewalk coming don't you talk about sidewalk like about sidewalk like about sidewalk like that oh my God I mean I I again the that oh my God I mean I I again the that oh my God I mean I I again the other day I I just went to the sidewalk other day I I just went to the sidewalk other day I I just went to the sidewalk coverage map I'm just I just look at it coverage map I'm just I just look at it coverage map I'm just I just look at it and just laugh because it's freaking

and just laugh because it's freaking and just laugh because it's freaking everywhere everywhere everywhere it's everywhere like oh my God it's like it's everywhere like oh my God it's like it's everywhere like oh my God it's like wow it's yeah in the United States right wow it's yeah in the United States right wow it's yeah in the United States right yeah and then and then I went and I yeah and then and then I went and I yeah and then and then I went and I so yes I'm going to bring up helium but so yes I'm going to bring up helium but so yes I'm going to bring up helium but there are so many people as we know that there are so many people as we know that there are so many people as we know that are taking their helium miners off the are taking their helium miners off the are taking their helium miners off the air right off and it's we talked about air right off and it's we talked about air right off and it's we talked about this before so I had this crazy this before so I had this crazy this before so I had this crazy hairbrain you know entrepreneurial idea hairbrain you know entrepreneurial idea hairbrain you know entrepreneurial idea that you know never comes out of me ever that you know never comes out of me ever that you know never comes out of me ever um how can we convert those helium um how can we convert those helium um how can we convert those helium miners to Laura Wan miners like how can miners to Laura Wan miners like how can miners to Laura Wan miners like how can we P put them on Laura win and the guys we P put them on Laura win and the guys we P put them on Laura win and the guys from rack Wireless said it's almost from rack Wireless said it's almost from rack Wireless said it's almost impossible you have to change firmware impossible you have to change firmware impossible you have to change firmware and all kinds of other things with in and all kinds of other things with in and all kinds of other things with in the rack minor and it's just not the rack minor and it's just not the rack minor and it's just not something you can do over the air from something you can do over the air from something you can do over the air from Laura W land to do it and you go oh my Laura W land to do it and you go oh my Laura W land to do it and you go oh my God you know it's like sounds yeah you God you know it's like sounds yeah you God you know it's like sounds yeah you screw up a whole Market you know yeah screw up a whole Market you know yeah screw up a whole Market you know yeah well I mean you know what we called it well I mean you know what we called it well I mean you know what we called it we did oh no doubt about it like a lot we did oh no doubt about it like a lot we did oh no doubt about it like a lot of other stuff that's not the only thing of other stuff that's not the only thing of other stuff that's not the only thing we've called on that show you know which we've called on that show you know which we've called on that show you know which is like freaking ridiculous that's why is like freaking ridiculous that's why is like freaking ridiculous that's why you know it always sounds like we're you know it always sounds like we're you know it always sounds like we're talking about the same [ __ ] every week talking about the same [ __ ] every week talking about the same [ __ ] every week but it we're not like this episode we've but it we're not like this episode we've but it we're not like this episode we've kind of talked about this before but we kind of talked about this before but we kind of talked about this before but we haven't you know what I'm saying haven't you know what I'm saying haven't you know what I'm saying Leonard's kind of sounded like one of Leonard's kind of sounded like one of Leonard's kind of sounded like one of those guys who they have on CNBC yeah I those guys who they have on CNBC yeah I those guys who they have on CNBC yeah I called the 200 market crash I called

called the 200 market crash I called called the 200 market crash I called it no but we we did you know and we went it no but we we did you know and we went it no but we we did you know and we went against the grain on a lot of the against the grain on a lot of the against the grain on a lot of the thinking and you know we we we force thinking and you know we we we force thinking and you know we we we force people to ask some really tough people to ask some really tough people to ask some really tough questions and get really uncomfortable questions and get really uncomfortable questions and get really uncomfortable with what they were hearing they were with what they were hearing they were with what they were hearing they were starting to starting to starting to believe um but then that says something believe um but then that says something believe um but then that says something about us right I mean come on we got to about us right I mean come on we got to about us right I mean come on we got to give ourselves some freaking credit you give ourselves some freaking credit you give ourselves some freaking credit you know I think so don't you no we have to know I think so don't you no we have to know I think so don't you no we have to go to that place that internet store go to that place that internet store go to that place that internet store where you get your check for being where you get your check for being where you get your check for being popular the internet and saying good popular the internet and saying good popular the internet and saying good things yeah remember that that was on a things yeah remember that that was on a things yeah remember that that was on a a million years ago on South Park where all the people all the people Park where all the people all the people who are YouTube famous and the little who are YouTube famous and the little who are YouTube famous and the little baby and all the stuff and they're like baby and all the stuff and they're like baby and all the stuff and they're like I'm here to get my check for being I'm here to get my check for being I'm here to get my check for being famous on the internet well you know it's a thank a internet well you know it's a thank a thankless job right it is it is but hey thankless job right it is it is but hey thankless job right it is it is but hey go ahead here's the barcode for vinmo us go ahead here's the barcode for vinmo us go ahead here's the barcode for vinmo us people people people yeah patreon us yeah you go yeah we're yeah patreon us yeah you go yeah we're yeah patreon us yeah you go yeah we're out there holding out our Cup on the out there holding out our Cup on the out there holding out our Cup on the sidewalk well you know but you know what sidewalk well you know but you know what sidewalk well you know but you know what what there's a great business in being what there's a great business in being what there's a great business in being wrong so uh maybe we need to start doing wrong so uh maybe we need to start doing wrong so uh maybe we need to start doing that and hyping up every everything that that and hyping up every everything that that and hyping up every everything that every wrong thing oh yeah being wrong I every wrong thing oh yeah being wrong I every wrong thing oh yeah being wrong I mean it looks like it's a great business mean it looks like it's a great business mean it looks like it's a great business I mean look at look at some of these I mean look at look at some of these I mean look at look at some of these guys that were saying that crypto is guys that were saying that crypto is guys that were saying that crypto is going to be like uh you know a quarter going to be like uh you know a quarter going to be like uh you know a quarter millon a quarter Million by like three

millon a quarter Million by like three millon a quarter Million by like three years years years ago those guys are still on CNBC and ago those guys are still on CNBC and ago those guys are still on CNBC and talking and you know um Shilling the talking and you know um Shilling the talking and you know um Shilling the next nonsense you know I mean that's a next nonsense you know I mean that's a next nonsense you know I mean that's a great business Leonard hent yeah I mean great business Leonard hent yeah I mean great business Leonard hent yeah I mean come on bitcoin's up a lot this year come on bitcoin's up a lot this year come on bitcoin's up a lot this year like what 47% this guy this guy well you like what 47% this guy this guy well you like what 47% this guy this guy well you know Nvidia is up know Nvidia is up know Nvidia is up XYZ it's not it's not at 200 and it's XYZ it's not it's not at 200 and it's XYZ it's not it's not at 200 and it's not at a quarter million all right not at a quarter million all right not at a quarter million all right here's a call here's a call we can make here's a call here's a call we can make here's a call here's a call we can make that's an easy one about bad bad news that's an easy one about bad bad news that's an easy one about bad bad news bad things happening all if you're a bad things happening all if you're a bad things happening all if you're a Delta Sky miles frequent flyer you want Delta Sky miles frequent flyer you want Delta Sky miles frequent flyer you want to talk about people putting a gun their to talk about people putting a gun their to talk about people putting a gun their head and committing suicide Delta is head and committing suicide Delta is head and committing suicide Delta is killing itself right now by destroying killing itself right now by destroying killing itself right now by destroying their Sky miles program well that you their Sky miles program well that you their Sky miles program well that you know and then Ed Bastion coming out last know and then Ed Bastion coming out last know and then Ed Bastion coming out last week going we hear you we need to make week going we hear you we need to make week going we hear you we need to make changes you know blah blah blah blah changes you know blah blah blah blah changes you know blah blah blah blah they did it to themselves Rob by doing they did it to themselves Rob by doing they did it to themselves Rob by doing the rollover from coid years and doing the rollover from coid years and doing the rollover from coid years and doing the rollover which increased the amount the rollover which increased the amount the rollover which increased the amount of diamonds and platinums so high that of diamonds and platinums so high that of diamonds and platinums so high that they selected the Sky Club so they did they selected the Sky Club so they did they selected the Sky Club so they did it to themselves but if you're gonna it to themselves but if you're gonna it to themselves but if you're gonna screw the people like me that has 2.3 screw the people like me that has 2.3 screw the people like me that has 2.3 million million million miles I'm sorry I'm going to make a miles I'm sorry I'm going to make a miles I'm sorry I'm going to make a decision I I I I I don't need my decision I I I I I don't need my decision I I I I I don't need my American Express card to do you know to American Express card to do you know to American Express card to do you know to do that they're making it so hard now do that they're making it so hard now do that they're making it so hard now the new rules are insane I have so many

the new rules are insane I have so many the new rules are insane I have so many friends I see them on Facebook they're friends I see them on Facebook they're friends I see them on Facebook they're like yeah I'm getting rid of my my Delta like yeah I'm getting rid of my my Delta like yeah I'm getting rid of my my Delta American Express I'm not automatically a American Express I'm not automatically a American Express I'm not automatically a loyal customer anymore well and then you loyal customer anymore well and then you loyal customer anymore well and then you got guys like Jeff blue and other ones got guys like Jeff blue and other ones got guys like Jeff blue and other ones that are sitting there I'll take your that are sitting there I'll take your that are sitting there I'll take your status and you can have that status on status and you can have that status on status and you can have that status on my on my my Airline yeah right all right my on my my Airline yeah right all right my on my my Airline yeah right all right yeah yeah there you yeah yeah there you yeah yeah there you go there you go folks you didn't think go there you go folks you didn't think go there you go folks you didn't think you're going to hear about us blasting you're going to hear about us blasting you're going to hear about us blasting Delta skymile program but they deserve Delta skymile program but they deserve Delta skymile program but they deserve it it it and they did it to themselves this is a and they did it to themselves this is a and they did it to themselves this is a self inflicted wound they did they did self inflicted wound they did they did self inflicted wound they did they did they absolutely did it to themselves I they absolutely did it to themselves I they absolutely did it to themselves I me it's just like so next time you see me it's just like so next time you see me it's just like so next time you see Steve flying he'll be like on Frontier Steve flying he'll be like on Frontier Steve flying he'll be like on Frontier or Spirit Airlines where you know hey or Spirit Airlines where you know hey or Spirit Airlines where you know hey would you like to pay for a glass of would you like to pay for a glass of would you like to pay for a glass of water no I love that what's that the water no I love that what's that the water no I love that what's that the 18 it's $23 for 18 it's $23 for 18 it's $23 for water water water that is totally Spirit that's like you that is totally Spirit that's like you that is totally Spirit that's like you hold it in or do you want to pay $16 for hold it in or do you want to pay $16 for hold it in or do you want to pay $16 for the Lou in the bag exactly I thought I the Lou in the bag exactly I thought I the Lou in the bag exactly I thought I was saving money by doing a carryon oh was saving money by doing a carryon oh was saving money by doing a carryon oh what space above your I have my I have what space above your I have my I have what space above your I have my I have my empty bottle of Gatorade for a reason please absolutely absolutely and it ends please absolutely absolutely and it ends up being just as expensive as anything up being just as expensive as anything up being just as expensive as anything else it does it does I mean you know else it does it does I mean you know else it does it does I mean you know yeah it's it is ridiculous and I don't

yeah it's it is ridiculous and I don't yeah it's it is ridiculous and I don't know how it gets changed Rob they're know how it gets changed Rob they're know how it gets changed Rob they're going to have to they're it's what a going to have to they're it's what a going to have to they're it's what a publicity nightmare it is a publicity publicity nightmare it is a publicity publicity nightmare it is a publicity Nightmare and everyone's talking about Nightmare and everyone's talking about Nightmare and everyone's talking about it all the loyal customers are being it all the loyal customers are being it all the loyal customers are being very vocal all over the internet and all very vocal all over the internet and all very vocal all over the internet and all over social media right now and so they over social media right now and so they over social media right now and so they got to be getting a mouthful I know got to be getting a mouthful I know got to be getting a mouthful I know people been posting the profile picture people been posting the profile picture people been posting the profile picture of the guy who's in charge of this of the guy who's in charge of this of the guy who's in charge of this program now and they're spreading it program now and they're spreading it program now and they're spreading it around the Internet it's like this guy around the Internet it's like this guy around the Internet it's like this guy right well well I mean it's the other right well well I mean it's the other right well well I mean it's the other thing too that I heard from my Atlanta thing too that I heard from my Atlanta thing too that I heard from my Atlanta Delta people so they had made billions Delta people so they had made billions Delta people so they had made billions and billions of profit dollars off and billions of profit dollars off and billions of profit dollars off American Express because remember they American Express because remember they American Express because remember they have no MasterCard Visa program and so have no MasterCard Visa program and so have no MasterCard Visa program and so so that so that so that guy he talked to all the Delta he the guy he talked to all the Delta he the guy he talked to all the Delta he the American Express and that guy got talked American Express and that guy got talked American Express and that guy got talked and they said I need more billions so and they said I need more billions so and they said I need more billions so let's make a program let's make a program let's make a program wow sorry you ain't going to get me to wow sorry you ain't going to get me to wow sorry you ain't going to get me to spend $35,000 on my American Express spend $35,000 on my American Express spend $35,000 on my American Express card ain't gonna happen no all right card ain't gonna happen no all right card ain't gonna happen no all right well hey guys I got a drop so let's call well hey guys I got a drop so let's call well hey guys I got a drop so let's call it we almost at an hour um elevat our it we almost at an hour um elevat our it we almost at an hour um elevat our kids.org great program this year for the kids.org great program this year for the kids.org great program this year for the fundraising it's $300 per Chromebook fundraising it's $300 per Chromebook fundraising it's $300 per Chromebook donate get it in there if you're doing a donate get it in there if you're doing a donate get it in there if you're doing a great job we you know we're reposting it great job we you know we're reposting it great job we you know we're reposting it all if you don't see it I'd be shocked all if you don't see it I'd be shocked all if you don't see it I'd be shocked between all of us with the 27 million between all of us with the 27 million between all of us with the 27 million followers that the three of us have um

followers that the three of us have um followers that the three of us have um on on top of Stephanie so um that's a on on top of Stephanie so um that's a on on top of Stephanie so um that's a great cause right now going on it's a great cause right now going on it's a great cause right now going on it's a campaign fundraising right now so let's campaign fundraising right now so let's campaign fundraising right now so let's go yeah and U yeah thanks for hanging go yeah and U yeah thanks for hanging go yeah and U yeah thanks for hanging out with us uh remember subscribe like out with us uh remember subscribe like out with us uh remember subscribe like and share and comment at and share and comment at and share and comment at www.i cof talk.com and we will see you www.i cof talk.com and we will see you www.i cof talk.com and we will see you next week take care everyone all right next week take care everyone all right next week take care everyone all right bye bye bye [Music]