IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 230 - Boring Revolution (live from Embedded World North America 2024)

ready hey everyone welcome to iot Coffee ready hey everyone welcome to iot Coffee Talk yes this is a special edition Talk yes this is a special edition Talk yes this is a special edition straight from Austin straight from Austin straight from Austin [Music] [Music] [Music] Texas yeah well we have like a lot of Texas yeah well we have like a lot of Texas yeah well we have like a lot of crazy stuff going on this week world of crazy stuff going on this week world of crazy stuff going on this week world of North North North America America America 2024 yes just in case forgot what year 2024 yes just in case forgot what year 2024 yes just in case forgot what year it is and it's the first time they've it is and it's the first time they've it is and it's the first time they've had invented world in the states so this had invented world in the states so this had invented world in the states so this is a big deal for me yeah it's true yeah is a big deal for me yeah it's true yeah is a big deal for me yeah it's true yeah yes and iot Stars last night yeah yes and iot Stars last night yeah yes and iot Stars last night yeah wonderful wonderful event we got to see wonderful wonderful event we got to see wonderful wonderful event we got to see so many of our iot community friends as so many of our iot community friends as so many of our iot community friends as well as uh uh just uh I don't know what well as uh uh just uh I don't know what well as uh uh just uh I don't know what you call them like Coles I'm call them you call them like Coles I'm call them you call them like Coles I'm call them col celebrities our crew our II business col celebrities our crew our II business col celebrities our crew our II business people that's right yeah and uh it was people that's right yeah and uh it was people that's right yeah and uh it was great to see so many uh you know of the great to see so many uh you know of the great to see so many uh you know of the iot coffee talk I know Al go when I iot coffee talk I know Al go when I iot coffee talk I know Al go when I shared the picture with my husband he's shared the picture with my husband he's shared the picture with my husband he's like nerds I'm like yes we're very proud like nerds I'm like yes we're very proud like nerds I'm like yes we're very proud of it we're very proud of it because the of it we're very proud of it because the of it we're very proud of it because the Nerds r on the world right basically so Nerds r on the world right basically so Nerds r on the world right basically so we only miss like they beat no from the we only miss like they beat no from the we only miss like they beat no from the original group original group original group yeah ran we yes yes yeah but we no bill yeah ran we yes yes yeah but we no bill yeah ran we yes yes yeah but we no bill on the show we missing Bill and Dimitri on the show we missing Bill and Dimitri on the show we missing Bill and Dimitri just simply because uh we couldn't get just simply because uh we couldn't get just simply because uh we couldn't get the video the video the video workation telecommunication issues so we workation telecommunication issues so we workation telecommunication issues so we had to we had to kick them off so we

had to we had to kick them off so we had to we had to kick them off so we figure that 6G he'll solve figure that 6G he'll solve figure that 6G he'll solve that yes yeah there is noet port on your that yes yeah there is noet port on your that yes yeah there is noet port on your phone no no phone no no phone no no but no it great to see everyone in real but no it great to see everyone in real but no it great to see everyone in real life and I think a lot of people had life and I think a lot of people had life and I think a lot of people had those Zoom moments where you only see those Zoom moments where you only see those Zoom moments where you only see people on zoom and then you meet them in people on zoom and then you meet them in people on zoom and then you meet them in real life and they're a lot taller or real life and they're a lot taller or real life and they're a lot taller or shorter than you thought they were so shorter than you thought they were so shorter than you thought they were so that was kind of that was kind of that was kind of exciting taller oh you're taller exciting taller oh you're taller exciting taller oh you're taller shorter to recalibrate my exactly shorter to recalibrate my exactly shorter to recalibrate my exactly understanding of folks two feet taller understanding of folks two feet taller understanding of folks two feet taller than me than me than me probably maybe I don't know what it mean probably maybe I don't know what it mean probably maybe I don't know what it mean to well North America got had the chance to well North America got had the chance to well North America got had the chance to discover what iot giant really means to discover what iot giant really means to discover what iot giant really means and there you go and this is this is him and there you go and this is this is him and there you go and this is this is him right over here you know exactly yeah right over here you know exactly yeah right over here you know exactly yeah and you know you're kind of like a giant and you know you're kind of like a giant and you know you're kind of like a giant in a lot of different ways right I mean in a lot of different ways right I mean in a lot of different ways right I mean first off you established and started first off you established and started first off you established and started iot Stars right which is 10 years yeah iot Stars right which is 10 years yeah iot Stars right which is 10 years yeah 10 10 10 yearsing actually when I woke up I saw yearsing actually when I woke up I saw yearsing actually when I woke up I saw Twitter like you want to publish this Twitter like you want to publish this Twitter like you want to publish this 10y year uh g match uh 10y year uh g match uh 10y year uh g match uh of your anniversary and I thought no but of your anniversary and I thought no but of your anniversary and I thought no but [ __ ] yeah 10 years ago I created the [ __ ] yeah 10 years ago I created the [ __ ] yeah 10 years ago I created the star Twitter account so not too many star Twitter account so not too many star Twitter account so not too many things in iot that have been around for things in iot that have been around for things in iot that have been around for 10 10 10 years yeah well I think is is iot even years yeah well I think is is iot even years yeah well I think is is iot even 10 years old or yeah I think the concept 10 years old or yeah I think the concept 10 years old or yeah I think the concept right yes it right yes it right yes it is maybe 8 close to 10 maybe maybe the

is maybe 8 close to 10 maybe maybe the is maybe 8 close to 10 maybe maybe the hype is cuz you started when the hype hype is cuz you started when the hype hype is cuz you started when the hype started to really get crazy right yeah started to really get crazy right yeah started to really get crazy right yeah Investments Nest was acquired by Google Investments Nest was acquired by Google Investments Nest was acquired by Google like the compass we had our MTM Awards like the compass we had our MTM Awards like the compass we had our MTM Awards and then we switched it over to iot and then we switched it over to iot and then we switched it over to iot innovator Awards and it's like eight innovator Awards and it's like eight innovator Awards and it's like eight years so it's close so we're in between years so it's close so we're in between years so it's close so we're in between 8 and 10 years depending on when folks 8 and 10 years depending on when folks 8 and 10 years depending on when folks started calling in iot so you think we started calling in iot so you think we started calling in iot so you think we are living similar thing today with AI are living similar thing today with AI are living similar thing today with AI what we had 10 years ago with iot all what we had 10 years ago with iot all what we had 10 years ago with iot all you do is watch iot copy talk and you you do is watch iot copy talk and you you do is watch iot copy talk and you know the answer to that go on Tech the know the answer to that go on Tech the know the answer to that go on Tech the tech world is kind of unique in that we tech world is kind of unique in that we tech world is kind of unique in that we just kind of make up words you know and just kind of make up words you know and just kind of make up words you know and terms all the time I mean in the AI I terms all the time I mean in the AI I terms all the time I mean in the AI I was telling leard today it's like was telling leard today it's like was telling leard today it's like there's efficient ML and Tiny ML and there's efficient ML and Tiny ML and there's efficient ML and Tiny ML and analog Ai and you know people are just analog Ai and you know people are just analog Ai and you know people are just kind of coming up with new terms all the kind of coming up with new terms all the kind of coming up with new terms all the time yeah although I was excited to see time yeah although I was excited to see time yeah although I was excited to see this morning they announced the Nobel this morning they announced the Nobel this morning they announced the Nobel Prize uh winner and it was these two Prize uh winner and it was these two Prize uh winner and it was these two scientists that developed uh you know scientists that developed uh you know scientists that developed uh you know their researching proteins and they and their researching proteins and they and their researching proteins and they and they gave it to The two scientists and they gave it to The two scientists and they gave it to The two scientists and then the other guy was the AI uh a tech then the other guy was the AI uh a tech then the other guy was the AI uh a tech guy who applied AI to help you know help guy who applied AI to help you know help guy who applied AI to help you know help with the research and so they won so it with the research and so they won so it with the research and so they won so it was like oh wow AI is now being was like oh wow AI is now being was like oh wow AI is now being awarded for Noel or so yeah awarded for Noel or so yeah awarded for Noel or so yeah that's to solve the climate change right that's to solve the climate change right that's to solve the climate change right L yeah well no apparently not apparently L yeah well no apparently not apparently L yeah well no apparently not apparently not it it it's uh one or the other now

not it it it's uh one or the other now not it it it's uh one or the other now right I mean we do need to stop and say right I mean we do need to stop and say right I mean we do need to stop and say that we're going to we want thoughts and that we're going to we want thoughts and that we're going to we want thoughts and prayers are with those in the path of prayers are with those in the path of prayers are with those in the path of Milton um because it just you know folks Milton um because it just you know folks Milton um because it just you know folks in North Carolina to yeah I mean there's in North Carolina to yeah I mean there's in North Carolina to yeah I mean there's still just so much damage all across uh still just so much damage all across uh still just so much damage all across uh and it's yeah we have our we have and it's yeah we have our we have and it's yeah we have our we have friends and family and everyone knows friends and family and everyone knows friends and family and everyone knows folks that are in that path so Steve folks that are in that path so Steve folks that are in that path so Steve Steve rummer and he didn't get to go to Steve rummer and he didn't get to go to Steve rummer and he didn't get to go to mob World Congress right yeah America mob World Congress right yeah America mob World Congress right yeah America it's cuz of the path and they I mean it's cuz of the path and they I mean it's cuz of the path and they I mean they shut down the airports so it's well they shut down the airports so it's well they shut down the airports so it's well it's like back to back I mean because it's like back to back I mean because it's like back to back I mean because two weeks ago it was uh hurricane Helen two weeks ago it was uh hurricane Helen two weeks ago it was uh hurricane Helen Helen so yeah and there's people still Helen so yeah and there's people still Helen so yeah and there's people still missing that they have not recovered or missing that they have not recovered or missing that they have not recovered or found yet we have Tech leaders for going found yet we have Tech leaders for going found yet we have Tech leaders for going around saying hey we need to build more around saying hey we need to build more around saying hey we need to build more of these insane AI super Computing data of these insane AI super Computing data of these insane AI super Computing data centers so you know um you can't stop centers so you know um you can't stop centers so you know um you can't stop you just can't stop for AI and no you just can't stop for AI and no you just can't stop for AI and no one has bothered to ask the question one has bothered to ask the question one has bothered to ask the question why well did you see nobody asks why so why well did you see nobody asks why so why well did you see nobody asks why so why are we building all of these things why are we building all of these things why are we building all of these things and for what purpose other than selling and for what purpose other than selling and for what purpose other than selling gpus right yeah yeah at the end it's gpus right yeah yeah at the end it's gpus right yeah yeah at the end it's always the same people making the money always the same people making the money always the same people making the money right it's a how to worku want to S more right it's a how to worku want to S more right it's a how to worku want to S more so you just you just put the seat right so you just you just put the seat right so you just you just put the seat right well and I saw your post about Accenture well and I saw your post about Accenture well and I saw your post about Accenture like the amount of funding coming into like the amount of funding coming into like the amount of funding coming into them for their new AI group like people

them for their new AI group like people them for their new AI group like people are spending money on the on with exens are spending money on the on with exens are spending money on the on with exens so on the Consulting side and so it's so on the Consulting side and so it's so on the Consulting side and so it's just where the money's flowing right now just where the money's flowing right now just where the money's flowing right now that's exactly what's happening is that's exactly what's happening is that's exactly what's happening is everyone's following that money everyone's following that money everyone's following that money tra we're are seeing more development of tra we're are seeing more development of tra we're are seeing more development of like models more people are trying to be like models more people are trying to be like models more people are trying to be more efficient in their Foundation model more efficient in their Foundation model more efficient in their Foundation model development to do development to do development to do yeah but primarily to Cost Less to run yeah but primarily to Cost Less to run yeah but primarily to Cost Less to run right they want to be cost competitive right they want to be cost competitive right they want to be cost competitive because now there's a bit of a I want because now there's a bit of a I want because now there's a bit of a I want say race to the bottom but there's a lot say race to the bottom but there's a lot say race to the bottom but there's a lot of competition now in foundational of competition now in foundational of competition now in foundational models on AI from cost but it's also models on AI from cost but it's also models on AI from cost but it's also driving more effic and IDE Energy driving more effic and IDE Energy driving more effic and IDE Energy Efficiency with some of these models too Efficiency with some of these models too Efficiency with some of these models too use less you know obviously like Rob use less you know obviously like Rob use less you know obviously like Rob said last week I think he posted this if said last week I think he posted this if said last week I think he posted this if we are not going to get to the sdg goals we are not going to get to the sdg goals we are not going to get to the sdg goals sustainable development goals by 2030 sustainable development goals by 2030 sustainable development goals by 2030 that the UN you know they put all these that the UN you know they put all these that the UN you know they put all these things in place for um the world and things in place for um the world and things in place for um the world and we're not going to reach those goals we're not going to reach those goals we're not going to reach those goals we're not going to reach those we're not going to reach those we're not going to reach those sustainability goals and it's almost as sustainability goals and it's almost as sustainability goals and it's almost as AI is going to be counterintuitive to AI is going to be counterintuitive to AI is going to be counterintuitive to the the the SGS were established now it's like they SGS were established now it's like they SGS were established now it's like they kind of blew out of the water yeah but kind of blew out of the water yeah but kind of blew out of the water yeah but here on iot coffee top we are going to here on iot coffee top we are going to here on iot coffee top we are going to asked the asked the asked the question for what why question for what why question for what why why and I think that's what everyone why and I think that's what everyone why and I think that's what everyone should be asking themselves I mean should be asking themselves I mean should be asking themselves I mean that's what I ask a lot of people in the that's what I ask a lot of people in the that's what I ask a lot of people in the industry it's like yeah it's great that industry it's like yeah it's great that industry it's like yeah it's great that we're building all this stuff for but we're building all this stuff for but we're building all this stuff for but for what for what is it just so that for what for what is it just so that for what for what is it just so that marketing people can produce marketing people can produce marketing people can produce more stuff I'll take that yeah I mean

more stuff I'll take that yeah I mean more stuff I'll take that yeah I mean and you know and you know and you know ums for customer support yeah customer ums for customer support yeah customer ums for customer support yeah customer support I mean now but but they think support I mean now but but they think support I mean now but but they think yeah some techno Optimist people think yeah some techno Optimist people think yeah some techno Optimist people think that using the same methods that we have that using the same methods that we have that using the same methods that we have been using uh in the in the last 100 been using uh in the in the last 100 been using uh in the in the last 100 years it's not going to fix know all the years it's not going to fix know all the years it's not going to fix know all the all the problems that we have as a as all the problems that we have as a as all the problems that we have as a as Humanity so maybe investing in something Humanity so maybe investing in something Humanity so maybe investing in something that can have our lessons learn and try that can have our lessons learn and try that can have our lessons learn and try to be more to be more to be more or or just yeah get something crazy can or or just yeah get something crazy can or or just yeah get something crazy can help us maybe yeah I don't know for help us maybe yeah I don't know for help us maybe yeah I don't know for example you can get like a lot of new example you can get like a lot of new example you can get like a lot of new efficiency using AI designing new solar efficiency using AI designing new solar efficiency using AI designing new solar panels or you C hour station or things panels or you C hour station or things panels or you C hour station or things like that yeah I mean there was a like that yeah I mean there was a like that yeah I mean there was a interesting presentation from St interesting presentation from St interesting presentation from St microelectronics yesterday we're going microelectronics yesterday we're going microelectronics yesterday we're going to post on a Discord that he was saying to post on a Discord that he was saying to post on a Discord that he was saying something like the human brain at like something like the human brain at like something like the human brain at like 20 watts is sort of the equivalent of a 20 watts is sort of the equivalent of a 20 watts is sort of the equivalent of a supercomputer like 50 6 GW or something supercomputer like 50 6 GW or something supercomputer like 50 6 GW or something like basically the human brain is so like basically the human brain is so like basically the human brain is so much more energy efficient and it's much more energy efficient and it's much more energy efficient and it's acute and so it's sort of like when you acute and so it's sort of like when you acute and so it's sort of like when you talk about trying to get to that level talk about trying to get to that level talk about trying to get to that level of capability how much energy do you of capability how much energy do you of capability how much energy do you need to actually put into a super need to actually put into a super need to actually put into a super computer to get there so we're we're computer to get there so we're we're computer to get there so we're we're still way off on our efficiency AI way still way off on our efficiency AI way still way off on our efficiency AI way off yeah but you know what here's the off yeah but you know what here's the off yeah but you know what here's the here's the thing that I'm afraid of that here's the thing that I'm afraid of that here's the thing that I'm afraid of that they'll start to harvest monkey brains they'll start to harvest monkey brains they'll start to harvest monkey brains and try to use them power the Next and try to use them power the Next and try to use them power the Next Generation Quantum generative AI superc

Generation Quantum generative AI superc Generation Quantum generative AI superc Computing yeah somebody's working on Computing yeah somebody's working on Computing yeah somebody's working on that I'm sure yeah yeah and then of that I'm sure yeah yeah and then of that I'm sure yeah yeah and then of course there's going to be somebody out course there's going to be somebody out course there's going to be somebody out there some crazy person out there who's there some crazy person out there who's there some crazy person out there who's going to be working on the Next going to be working on the Next going to be working on the Next Generation which might be human brains Generation which might be human brains Generation which might be human brains Dr fun yeah don't don't give people Dr fun yeah don't don't give people Dr fun yeah don't don't give people weird ideas okay with I don't know I weird ideas okay with I don't know I weird ideas okay with I don't know I didn't say monkey brains watch didn't say monkey brains watch didn't say monkey brains watch thise I was living at at the wir thise I was living at at the wir thise I was living at at the wir magazine that um they were like a nor magazine that um they were like a nor magazine that um they were like a nor Norwegian company was using Norwegian company was using Norwegian company was using people in people in people in jails to to train missionary models jails to to train missionary models jails to to train missionary models really well you know it's true one of really well you know it's true one of really well you know it's true one of the true facts is that when you talk the true facts is that when you talk the true facts is that when you talk about data sets and labeling data and about data sets and labeling data and about data sets and labeling data and stuff there's still a lot of human stuff there's still a lot of human stuff there's still a lot of human intervention involved oh yeah cleaning intervention involved oh yeah cleaning intervention involved oh yeah cleaning and labeling data a lot of people don't and labeling data a lot of people don't and labeling data a lot of people don't realize that that those data sets come realize that that those data sets come realize that that those data sets come from a lot of human interaction clean it from a lot of human interaction clean it from a lot of human interaction clean it and label it and make it worth you know and label it and make it worth you know and label it and make it worth you know worthwhile to then train AI model on so worthwhile to then train AI model on so worthwhile to then train AI model on so and there's that's kind of a mechanical and there's that's kind of a mechanical and there's that's kind of a mechanical ter model right is where you get a lot ter model right is where you get a lot ter model right is where you get a lot of people you know um looking at that of people you know um looking at that of people you know um looking at that data to clean it up so and that's data to clean it up so and that's data to clean it up so and that's something you have to constantly do I something you have to constantly do I something you have to constantly do I think that's one of the things that we think that's one of the things that we think that's one of the things that we don't talk about a lot actually even in don't talk about a lot actually even in don't talk about a lot actually even in the industry is that these things don't the industry is that these things don't the industry is that these things don't inherently learn it has to go through a inherently learn it has to go through a inherently learn it has to go through a life cycle like a forced life cycle life cycle like a forced life cycle life cycle like a forced life cycle where humans we we learn and adapt on where humans we we learn and adapt on where humans we we learn and adapt on the Fly these things don't learn and the Fly these things don't learn and the Fly these things don't learn and adapt on the fly right and there's drift adapt on the fly right and there's drift adapt on the fly right and there's drift as model drift yeah drift a lot of as model drift yeah drift a lot of as model drift yeah drift a lot of issues that you know I think are being

issues that you know I think are being issues that you know I think are being discovered through all these pocs that's discovered through all these pocs that's discovered through all these pocs that's why you're not seeing a lot of broad why you're not seeing a lot of broad why you're not seeing a lot of broad Enterprise deployments because of a lot Enterprise deployments because of a lot Enterprise deployments because of a lot of these issues but also the cost of these issues but also the cost of these issues but also the cost associated with maintaining quality if associated with maintaining quality if associated with maintaining quality if you can even achieve quality and that's you can even achieve quality and that's you can even achieve quality and that's that's one of the big challenges and you that's one of the big challenges and you that's one of the big challenges and you know we've been talk so we've been know we've been talk so we've been know we've been talk so we've been talking about this on iot coffee talk talking about this on iot coffee talk talking about this on iot coffee talk for two for two for two years so if you don't listen to this years so if you don't listen to this years so if you don't listen to this show and you think we're just babbling show and you think we're just babbling show and you think we're just babbling and nonsense just listen to our previous and nonsense just listen to our previous and nonsense just listen to our previous episodes there one the one that we did episodes there one the one that we did episodes there one the one that we did on metaverse and generative AI that was on metaverse and generative AI that was on metaverse and generative AI that was clutch well it wasn't but two years ago clutch well it wasn't but two years ago clutch well it wasn't but two years ago I was on a panel and we had folks that I was on a panel and we had folks that I was on a panel and we had folks that were talking about what are we doing were talking about what are we doing were talking about what are we doing with the data what happens to the data with the data what happens to the data with the data what happens to the data when we get it to a point where we can when we get it to a point where we can when we get it to a point where we can say it's intelligent and it was such a say it's intelligent and it was such a say it's intelligent and it was such a long structured like conversation about long structured like conversation about long structured like conversation about data sanitization and data segmentation data sanitization and data segmentation data sanitization and data segmentation and building out the models just clean and building out the models just clean and building out the models just clean it up before we even actually use the it up before we even actually use the it up before we even actually use the data for something that's intelligent data for something that's intelligent data for something that's intelligent and it's so complex just going through and it's so complex just going through and it's so complex just going through just the basic steps and here we are 2 just the basic steps and here we are 2 just the basic steps and here we are 2 years later and I don't feel like we've years later and I don't feel like we've years later and I don't feel like we've reached that level yeah not yet I mean I reached that level yeah not yet I mean I reached that level yeah not yet I mean I think it's also we're seeing deployment think it's also we're seeing deployment think it's also we're seeing deployment of AI and some of these more Mission of AI and some of these more Mission of AI and some of these more Mission critical things around Agriculture and critical things around Agriculture and critical things around Agriculture and water systems and monitoring like train water systems and monitoring like train water systems and monitoring like train track temperatures and stuff so that track temperatures and stuff so that track temperatures and stuff so that stuff you really have to get it right stuff you really have to get it right stuff you really have to get it right critical infrastructure the the ability critical infrastructure the the ability critical infrastructure the the ability to train that to to to adjust for model to train that to to to adjust for model to train that to to to adjust for model drift to update your models and stuff

drift to update your models and stuff drift to update your models and stuff people are still sort of working out on people are still sort of working out on people are still sort of working out on The Kinks before cuz that stuff when it The Kinks before cuz that stuff when it The Kinks before cuz that stuff when it gets tooy that's out there for a decade gets tooy that's out there for a decade gets tooy that's out there for a decade field right so that people just need field right so that people just need field right so that people just need insurance well here's a you know I insurance well here's a you know I insurance well here's a you know I mentioned this in the past but it's a mentioned this in the past but it's a mentioned this in the past but it's a conversation I'm having more and more conversation I'm having more and more conversation I'm having more and more and I had a number of opportunities to and I had a number of opportunities to and I had a number of opportunities to have this discussion at iot Stars last have this discussion at iot Stars last have this discussion at iot Stars last night you know a lot of the ml stuff is night you know a lot of the ml stuff is night you know a lot of the ml stuff is it's about clean data right as we start it's about clean data right as we start it's about clean data right as we start to go into the higher orders of AI right to go into the higher orders of AI right to go into the higher orders of AI right it's about knowledge it's the quality of it's about knowledge it's the quality of it's about knowledge it's the quality of a knowledge base it's not just data a knowledge base it's not just data a knowledge base it's not just data right and that's why you have to that right and that's why you have to that right and that's why you have to that whole process is so different from you whole process is so different from you whole process is so different from you know the ml stuff that now people have know the ml stuff that now people have know the ml stuff that now people have started to develop some very started to develop some very started to develop some very effective efficient algorithms and uh effective efficient algorithms and uh effective efficient algorithms and uh applications for right that's about data applications for right that's about data applications for right that's about data you know so you you know data streaming you know so you you know data streaming you know so you you know data streaming off the machine that has to beity you off the machine that has to beity you off the machine that has to beity you have to contextualize it to a you know have to contextualize it to a you know have to contextualize it to a you know certain basic order and but when you certain basic order and but when you certain basic order and but when you start to get into these llms where now start to get into these llms where now start to get into these llms where now these things are starting to handle these things are starting to handle these things are starting to handle something entirely different it off much something entirely different it off much something entirely different it off much more ambiguous right exactly then it's more ambiguous right exactly then it's more ambiguous right exactly then it's about knowledge and so the discourse about knowledge and so the discourse about knowledge and so the discourse around ai ai broadly speaking hasn't around ai ai broadly speaking hasn't around ai ai broadly speaking hasn't elevated itself to that point yet and I elevated itself to that point yet and I elevated itself to that point yet and I think there's a risk of victimizing all think there's a risk of victimizing all think there's a risk of victimizing all the good ml work because people are the good ml work because people are the good ml work because people are they're just not talking about data and

they're just not talking about data and they're just not talking about data and knowledge at the same level yeah and knowledge at the same level yeah and knowledge at the same level yeah and some people actually have no experience some people actually have no experience some people actually have no experience with knowledge especially when you start with knowledge especially when you start with knowledge especially when you start to look at Enterprise AI yeah it's all to look at Enterprise AI yeah it's all to look at Enterprise AI yeah it's all about about about knowledge right data is like way down knowledge right data is like way down knowledge right data is like way down here yeah I think some of the some of here yeah I think some of the some of here yeah I think some of the some of the more interesting use cases that I've the more interesting use cases that I've the more interesting use cases that I've heard around recently it's really more heard around recently it's really more heard around recently it's really more on the vend on the operation side where on the vend on the operation side where on the vend on the operation side where there making these Mass databases of there making these Mass databases of there making these Mass databases of training materials documentation training materials documentation training materials documentation specification protocols and they're specification protocols and they're specification protocols and they're loading that into the llms and they're loading that into the llms and they're loading that into the llms and they're learning off of that because that that learning off of that because that that learning off of that because that that takes us to another level of it can also takes us to another level of it can also takes us to another level of it can also include simulation so in the aviation include simulation so in the aviation include simulation so in the aviation industry these Pilots have to have industry these Pilots have to have industry these Pilots have to have continuing education and so they're continuing education and so they're continuing education and so they're loading all of that content into these loading all of that content into these loading all of that content into these models to help them create like video models to help them create like video models to help them create like video tutorials on how to do specific things tutorials on how to do specific things tutorials on how to do specific things and giving them more of like a and giving them more of like a and giving them more of like a simulation of if this happens what do simulation of if this happens what do simulation of if this happens what do you do and so in those cases I'm like you do and so in those cases I'm like you do and so in those cases I'm like okay that's very legit I can see the okay that's very legit I can see the okay that's very legit I can see the value in that um it's probably a cost value in that um it's probably a cost value in that um it's probably a cost savings or a training that but something savings or a training that but something savings or a training that but something that they've never had especially the that they've never had especially the that they've never had especially the interface so it's just I think a lot of interface so it's just I think a lot of interface so it's just I think a lot of the more interesting use cases are the more interesting use cases are the more interesting use cases are happening on the back end or operational happening on the back end or operational happening on the back end or operational side not necessarily something that like side not necessarily something that like side not necessarily something that like C facing like check boxes like that it's C facing like check boxes like that it's C facing like check boxes like that it's just like it's like night and day when just like it's like night and day when just like it's like night and day when you think about this is useful this is a

you think about this is useful this is a you think about this is useful this is a pain pain yes yeah now now I'm I'm pain pain yes yeah now now I'm I'm pain pain yes yeah now now I'm I'm starting to realize that I probably starting to realize that I probably starting to realize that I probably should stuck with like learning and should stuck with like learning and should stuck with like learning and Knowledge Management back in my Knowledge Management back in my Knowledge Management back in my Consulting days it's going to be a big Consulting days it's going to be a big Consulting days it's going to be a big thing back I know I want I want to take a break here know I want I want to take a break here for a second and give you guys hug oh my for a second and give you guys hug oh my for a second and give you guys hug oh my God it's so good to see you guys you had God it's so good to see you guys you had God it's so good to see you guys you had the longest h with Bill last night I the longest h with Bill last night I the longest h with Bill last night I love it dude I love you I love you all love it dude I love you I love you all love it dude I love you I love you all and we all love you iot tea coffee T and and we all love you iot tea coffee T and and we all love you iot tea coffee T and um Leonard is wearing his pink today um Leonard is wearing his pink today um Leonard is wearing his pink today it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month in it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month in it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month in October so representing good October so representing good October so representing good unintentionally but honestly but yes I unintentionally but honestly but yes I unintentionally but honestly but yes I always represent yeah I'm all down with always represent yeah I'm all down with always represent yeah I'm all down with diversity and U women's health so um diversity and U women's health so um diversity and U women's health so um yeah what else is happening at the show yeah what else is happening at the show yeah what else is happening at the show I saw I was at the show floor yesterday I saw I was at the show floor yesterday I saw I was at the show floor yesterday pretty good attendance I mean it's for pretty good attendance I mean it's for pretty good attendance I mean it's for like you said first time they've done like you said first time they've done like you said first time they've done this from it used to be it's always been this from it used to be it's always been this from it used to be it's always been in nurg and there always had like tens in nurg and there always had like tens in nurg and there always had like tens of thousands of people and it's been of thousands of people and it's been of thousands of people and it's been packed so this one's a smaller show but packed so this one's a smaller show but packed so this one's a smaller show but still the the floor was pretty robust I still the the floor was pretty robust I still the the floor was pretty robust I thought some pretty cool booths and thought some pretty cool booths and thought some pretty cool booths and demos and um you know a lot of folks I demos and um you know a lot of folks I demos and um you know a lot of folks I saw the new particle takion platform you saw the new particle takion platform you saw the new particle takion platform you can see that they cool are you can see that they cool are you can see that they cool are you serious yeah they have that there had a serious yeah they have that there had a serious yeah they have that there had a big down there uh it was pretty well big down there uh it was pretty well big down there uh it was pretty well attended I think so that's like pretty attended I think so that's like pretty attended I think so that's like pretty Star Trek right there t tachon bursts T Star Trek right there t tachon bursts T Star Trek right there t tachon bursts T yeah so yeah the floor was buzzing so

yeah so yeah the floor was buzzing so yeah so yeah the floor was buzzing so that was good isn't that how you down that was good isn't that how you down that was good isn't that how you down Shields or is that how you identify or Shields or is that how you identify or Shields or is that how you identify or track track track a oh my gosh we are definitely entering well you know see that's like entering well you know see that's like the minimum requirement being a nerd is the minimum requirement being a nerd is the minimum requirement being a nerd is KN to be an science of Star Trek I made KN to be an science of Star Trek I made KN to be an science of Star Trek I made a lithium Crystal joke the other day to a lithium Crystal joke the other day to a lithium Crystal joke the other day to my he called it a lithium Crystal lithium all nerd here everyone lithium all nerd here everyone understand how the the engine works in understand how the the engine works in understand how the the engine works in in the in the in the Enterprise the Enterprise the Enterprise the engine warp drive warp drive yes the engine warp drive warp drive yes the engine warp drive warp drive yes the engine jeez this guy is just you know engine jeez this guy is just you know engine jeez this guy is just you know he's come on runs off of Del lithium he's come on runs off of Del lithium he's come on runs off of Del lithium Crystal I expected so much more from you it's like it is really weird to be you it's like it is really weird to be doing this live right now I mean it's doing this live right now I mean it's doing this live right now I mean it's not weird to me I feel like I've known not weird to me I feel like I've known not weird to me I feel like I've known yall forever we family we have met uh yall forever we family we have met uh yall forever we family we have met uh once per week for once per week for once per week for for yeah going on five going on five for yeah going on five going on five for yeah going on five going on five everyone and you know of course we everyone and you know of course we everyone and you know of course we missed all the other members of our talk missed all the other members of our talk missed all the other members of our talk talk the add-ons those that are there talk the add-ons those that are there talk the add-ons those that are there every week yes more often than I am yeah every week yes more often than I am yeah every week yes more often than I am yeah so what about what you guys think about so what about what you guys think about so what about what you guys think about the iot Stars event you know um I mean I

the iot Stars event you know um I mean I the iot Stars event you know um I mean I personally think it's one of the best personally think it's one of the best personally think it's one of the best opportunities uh to get together with a opportunities uh to get together with a opportunities uh to get together with a community of iot practitioners and community of iot practitioners and community of iot practitioners and business business business entrepreneurs uh to have like a real entrepreneurs uh to have like a real entrepreneurs uh to have like a real conversation right because I mean conversation right because I mean conversation right because I mean everyone really wants to make yeah this everyone really wants to make yeah this everyone really wants to make yeah this thing we call iot a quote unquote thing we call iot a quote unquote thing we call iot a quote unquote success and you know it's been a it's success and you know it's been a it's success and you know it's been a it's been a tough Journey right I me you've been a tough Journey right I me you've been a tough Journey right I me you've been you've been you've been in the game been you've been you've been in the game been you've been you've been in the game for at least a decade right yeah no but for at least a decade right yeah no but for at least a decade right yeah no but it's good now that yeah to see the the it's good now that yeah to see the the it's good now that yeah to see the the after pandemics right people wants to after pandemics right people wants to after pandemics right people wants to meet again wants to share you know the meet again wants to share you know the meet again wants to share you know the War Stories some with happy ending some War Stories some with happy ending some War Stories some with happy ending some without happy ending yeah yesterday we without happy ending yeah yesterday we without happy ending yeah yesterday we were discussing before the then should were discussing before the then should were discussing before the then should we ask uh people to raise their hands if we ask uh people to raise their hands if we ask uh people to raise their hands if their company's profitable or not for their company's profitable or not for their company's profitable or not for example you did and I did see we did and example you did and I did see we did and example you did and I did see we did and we see we saw people raising their hands we see we saw people raising their hands we see we saw people raising their hands so that means yeah people halfway so so that means yeah people halfway so so that means yeah people halfway so we're nonprofit so technically you technically you do well I I thought it was interesting I do well I I thought it was interesting I do well I I thought it was interesting I I mean I we didn't really get a great I mean I we didn't really get a great I mean I we didn't really get a great participation on the poll that's why at participation on the poll that's why at participation on the poll that's why at the end I asked well so what did the the end I asked well so what did the the end I asked well so what did the rest of you guys do right I asked are rest of you guys do right I asked are rest of you guys do right I asked are you guys a data company and nobody raise you guys a data company and nobody raise you guys a data company and nobody raise their hand you know that's how do they their hand you know that's how do they their hand you know that's how do they Define themselves do you consider Define themselves do you consider Define themselves do you consider yourself to be an iot company or a tech yourself to be an iot company or a tech yourself to be an iot company or a tech company and we do what we Happ to do company and we do what we Happ to do company and we do what we Happ to do what it's not a data company what it's

what it's not a data company what it's what it's not a data company what it's not a data not a data not a data company a lot of companies are not data company a lot of companies are not data company a lot of companies are not data or or they have no they have no data or or they have no they have no data or or they have no they have no data intelligence or not really going down intelligence or not really going down intelligence or not really going down that path yeah but see I think that that path yeah but see I think that that path yeah but see I think that fundamental question of what is an iot fundamental question of what is an iot fundamental question of what is an iot business and how right how does that business and how right how does that business and how right how does that then Define what you are as a company then Define what you are as a company then Define what you are as a company sure and um a lot of these folks are I sure and um a lot of these folks are I sure and um a lot of these folks are I would say the platform space right would say the platform space right would say the platform space right they're providing platforms of which you they're providing platforms of which you they're providing platforms of which you can then run you know do your data can then run you know do your data can then run you know do your data processing of things right so a lot of processing of things right so a lot of processing of things right so a lot of them are fine to say hey I'm just a them are fine to say hey I'm just a them are fine to say hey I'm just a platform here physical platform or or a platform here physical platform or or a platform here physical platform or or a software platform right that's yeah it software platform right that's yeah it software platform right that's yeah it do is out asn't it you do your thing do is out asn't it you do your thing do is out asn't it you do your thing party on my platform you know but last party on my platform you know but last party on my platform you know but last not seemed like there was a lot more not seemed like there was a lot more not seemed like there was a lot more discussion around the software side of discussion around the software side of discussion around the software side of things and just just the integration of things and just just the integration of things and just just the integration of hardware and software or software on hardware and software or software on hardware and software or software on Hardware I mean you're starting to hear Hardware I mean you're starting to hear Hardware I mean you're starting to hear more of that discussion taking place um more of that discussion taking place um more of that discussion taking place um when it comes to iot yeah um but also when it comes to iot yeah um but also when it comes to iot yeah um but also you know we've gone full circle with 5G you know we've gone full circle with 5G you know we've gone full circle with 5G iot what the hype hype hype but it's iot what the hype hype hype but it's iot what the hype hype hype but it's almost like we're we're kind of settling almost like we're we're kind of settling almost like we're we're kind of settling down is there some folks that thought down is there some folks that thought down is there some folks that thought they were going to move their to the they were going to move their to the they were going to move their to the edge they are not um we're kind of seen edge they are not um we're kind of seen edge they are not um we're kind of seen some bounce back um but I I feel like some bounce back um but I I feel like some bounce back um but I I feel like you know going to iot Stars last night you know going to iot Stars last night you know going to iot Stars last night there was there was really good demo was there was there was really good demo was there was there was really good demo was great um and just listening to some of great um and just listening to some of great um and just listening to some of spol War stories about you know how spol War stories about you know how spol War stories about you know how they're handling data um and some of the

they're handling data um and some of the they're handling data um and some of the progress being made I don't I mean I progress being made I don't I mean I progress being made I don't I mean I wouldn't consider any of those companies wouldn't consider any of those companies wouldn't consider any of those companies that's still going to be an iot company that's still going to be an iot company that's still going to be an iot company I'm like they're automating they're I'm like they're automating they're I'm like they're automating they're connecting things you know I don't connecting things you know I don't connecting things you know I don't know at the end it's companies are know at the end it's companies are know at the end it's companies are enabling other companies right to but enabling other companies right to but enabling other companies right to but the community is real like those that the community is real like those that the community is real like those that are have a common goal of wanting to are have a common goal of wanting to are have a common goal of wanting to connect the unconnected that common goal connect the unconnected that common goal connect the unconnected that common goal is still there sure um whatever we call is still there sure um whatever we call is still there sure um whatever we call it down the road it's still going to be it down the road it's still going to be it down the road it's still going to be there yeah absolutely and what do you there yeah absolutely and what do you there yeah absolutely and what do you think about the 12 Factor thing that think about the 12 Factor thing that think about the 12 Factor thing that that Brandon from Blues was presenting I that Brandon from Blues was presenting I that Brandon from Blues was presenting I mean um like looking through and I read mean um like looking through and I read mean um like looking through and I read through all I call him the steps and through all I call him the steps and through all I call him the steps and he's laughing at me I'm like well we are he's laughing at me I'm like well we are he's laughing at me I'm like well we are in recovery so literally like we're in in recovery so literally like we're in in recovery so literally like we're in constant recovery but yeah I mean it constant recovery but yeah I mean it constant recovery but yeah I mean it makes I mean it looks like more of okay makes I mean it looks like more of okay makes I mean it looks like more of okay we're not trying to educate everyone out we're not trying to educate everyone out we're not trying to educate everyone out there but we're trying to give them some there but we're trying to give them some there but we're trying to give them some better tools to start to make some better tools to start to make some better tools to start to make some decision you know to help them with decision you know to help them with decision you know to help them with their decision making because everyone their decision making because everyone their decision making because everyone is just running in circles I think it's is just running in circles I think it's is just running in circles I think it's more of of okay it's happening on the more of of okay it's happening on the more of of okay it's happening on the customer side and then how can we help customer side and then how can we help customer side and then how can we help developers Hardware manufacturers those developers Hardware manufacturers those developers Hardware manufacturers those that are really building things handson that are really building things handson that are really building things handson how do we help them kind of sit through how do we help them kind of sit through how do we help them kind of sit through things so it's more of a tool to assist things so it's more of a tool to assist things so it's more of a tool to assist um and um I think what's helpful I mean um and um I think what's helpful I mean um and um I think what's helpful I mean I I me think folks can actually go and I I me think folks can actually go and I I me think folks can actually go and learn some things if they're kind of learn some things if they're kind of learn some things if they're kind of especially newer or feel like they're especially newer or feel like they're especially newer or feel like they're kind of emerging into this space and kind of emerging into this space and kind of emerging into this space and they're just trying to get their hands they're just trying to get their hands they're just trying to get their hands around things I think it's a good tool around things I think it's a good tool around things I think it's a good tool for that yeah I remember when I was for that yeah I remember when I was for that yeah I remember when I was reading this in the the flight coming to reading this in the the flight coming to reading this in the the flight coming to to the US uh I was like oh finally I see

to the US uh I was like oh finally I see to the US uh I was like oh finally I see some of the things I was doing written some of the things I was doing written some of the things I was doing written down so like it's it's like Common Sense down so like it's it's like Common Sense down so like it's it's like Common Sense finally know uh in a place and that's a finally know uh in a place and that's a finally know uh in a place and that's a 12a factor. if you want to read more 12a factor. if you want to read more 12a factor. if you want to read more about about about it yeah it's a simple thing but yeah I it yeah it's a simple thing but yeah I it yeah it's a simple thing but yeah I don't know let's see if if it's gonna don't know let's see if if it's gonna don't know let's see if if it's gonna help people yeah and of course you have help people yeah and of course you have help people yeah and of course you have to thank to thank to thank him right tiny of course thank you yeah him right tiny of course thank you yeah him right tiny of course thank you yeah for helping provide the social lubrication helping provide the social lubrication necessary they had some interesting necessary they had some interesting necessary they had some interesting drinks on the menu when you like just drinks on the menu when you like just drinks on the menu when you like just the ones that that were their special be the ones that that were their special be the ones that that were their special be drinks like we should have come up with drinks like we should have come up with drinks like we should have come up with some tiny ml cocktail or something some tiny ml cocktail or something some tiny ml cocktail or something cockail but no the drinks were the cockail but no the drinks were the cockail but no the drinks were the drinks were delicious yeah the delicious yeah the Margaritas mu muy strong out is that I Margaritas mu muy strong out is that I Margaritas mu muy strong out is that I had had had one one one strong what do you mean is it in strong what do you mean is it in strong what do you mean is it in intensivo margaritas strong intensivo margaritas strong intensivo margaritas strong is yeah workday okay all workday okay all right it's official I forgot all of my right it's official I forgot all of my right it's official I forgot all of my high school Spanish it's not the same high school Spanish it's not the same high school Spanish it's not the same and definitely here in Texas it's a very and definitely here in Texas it's a very and definitely here in Texas it's a very slain Spanish very very slang very I'm

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just it's insane and and then the other just it's insane and and then the other important thing that we need is like the important thing that we need is like the important thing that we need is like the barbecue so what do you think about I barbecue so what do you think about I barbecue so what do you think about I never bed a brisket or turkey my life never bed a brisket or turkey my life never bed a brisket or turkey my life was that oh was this your person for was that oh was this your person for was that oh was this your person for barbecue yeah no well for brisket and barbecue yeah no well for brisket and barbecue yeah no well for brisket and turkey oh wow oh wow barbecue turkey oh wow oh wow barbecue turkey oh wow oh wow barbecue but I I missed out because we end up but I I missed out because we end up but I I missed out because we end up going to the qualcom dinner and you know going to the qualcom dinner and you know going to the qualcom dinner and you know okay you guys were running okay you guys were running okay you guys were running late with the agenda so it's it's good late with the agenda so it's it's good late with the agenda so it's it's good yeah you know I told Stephanie like yeah you know I told Stephanie like yeah you know I told Stephanie like three minutes more and another guy in three minutes more and another guy in three minutes more and another guy in The Other Side from Blu was like no no The Other Side from Blu was like no no The Other Side from Blu was like no no more more time give more more more time give more more more time give more time that's why you just like give them time that's why you just like give them time that's why you just like give them the website and let them go read cuz I the website and let them go read cuz I the website and let them go read cuz I mean I know that in at the end of the mean I know that in at the end of the mean I know that in at the end of the day some of your sponsors want they want day some of your sponsors want they want day some of your sponsors want they want get their message out they want people get their message out they want people get their message out they want people to visit their website more so I'm sorry to visit their website more so I'm sorry to visit their website more so I'm sorry probably more so Blues than the 12 probably more so Blues than the 12 probably more so Blues than the 12 after. but that's like a tool to get to after. but that's like a tool to get to after. but that's like a tool to get to Blues yeah yeah and it's interesting me Blues yeah yeah and it's interesting me Blues yeah yeah and it's interesting me because they used to always call because they used to always call because they used to always call themselves Blues Wireless they dropped themselves Blues Wireless they dropped themselves Blues Wireless they dropped that wireless they rebranded a couple of that wireless they rebranded a couple of that wireless they rebranded a couple of years ago years ago years ago guess you know they're in the perfect guess you know they're in the perfect guess you know they're in the perfect place right this is Austin and then place right this is Austin and then place right this is Austin and then their compies is the blues and we were their compies is the blues and we were their compies is the blues and we were you know the iot Stars was held at you know the iot Stars was held at you know the iot Stars was held at steevie Ray V's house and I don't know steevie Ray V's house and I don't know steevie Ray V's house and I don't know if you saw last night but U bill was if you saw last night but U bill was if you saw last night but U bill was wearing these nice like cool custom wearing these nice like cool custom wearing these nice like cool custom Nikes and he showed me the back of them Nikes and he showed me the back of them Nikes and he showed me the back of them on the back of it had this word I'm like on the back of it had this word I'm like on the back of it had this word I'm like what is that it says Blu and I was like

what is that it says Blu and I was like what is that it says Blu and I was like you wear the theme for the night but you wear the theme for the night but you wear the theme for the night but yeah he's a yeah he's a yeah he's a shoe oh my go has like sare foot closet shoe oh my go has like sare foot closet shoe oh my go has like sare foot closet closet of shoes Bill we're talking about closet of shoes Bill we're talking about closet of shoes Bill we're talking about your shoe your shoe your shoe collection Pi actually we should have we collection Pi actually we should have we collection Pi actually we should have we should have just gone to Bill's house should have just gone to Bill's house should have just gone to Bill's house okay do you know how close bill is where okay do you know how close bill is where okay do you know how close bill is where we live right now 20 minutes away 30 we live right now 20 minutes away 30 we live right now 20 minutes away 30 minutes with traffic 30 minutes to get minutes with traffic 30 minutes to get minutes with traffic 30 minutes to get to bills we can go crash his uh Nike to bills we can go crash his uh Nike to bills we can go crash his uh Nike collection yeah exctly then we continue by the way yeah exctly then we continue by the way speaking of cutting so if we were online speaking of cutting so if we were online speaking of cutting so if we were online right now I would put in the chat that I right now I would put in the chat that I right now I would put in the chat that I need to draw need to draw need to draw I'm because I have to go to this other I'm because I have to go to this other I'm because I have to go to this other thinging but since we are alive I have thinging but since we are alive I have thinging but since we are alive I have to tell you in person up and leave so to tell you in person up and leave so to tell you in person up and leave so it's less it's less it's less elegant Central for all we know this elegant Central for all we know this elegant Central for all we know this recording turned out like crap so that's recording turned out like crap so that's recording turned out like crap so that's true maybe it'll yeah we cut it short true maybe it'll yeah we cut it short true maybe it'll yeah we cut it short but no feel free to continue but I do but no feel free to continue but I do but no feel free to continue but I do need to okay whatever that in real life need to okay whatever that in real life need to okay whatever that in real life equivalent all right so on that note hey equivalent all right so on that note hey equivalent all right so on that note hey thanks everyone people we'll see you thanks everyone people we'll see you thanks everyone people we'll see you later see you guys later see you guys later see you guys but uh thanks for tuning in remember but uh thanks for tuning in remember but uh thanks for tuning in remember it's all about the kids um check out it's all about the kids um check out it's all about the kids um check out Elevate our kids at elevat our kids.org Elevate our kids at elevat our kids.org Elevate our kids at elevat our kids.org we are on a mission to bridge the we are on a mission to bridge the we are on a mission to bridge the digital Equity divide so kids K through digital Equity divide so kids K through digital Equity divide so kids K through 12 who uh live in underserved and 12 who uh live in underserved and 12 who uh live in underserved and unserved communities can get connected

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