IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 216 - Formula 1 IoT

[Music] [Music] let me guess let me guess I think I let me guess let me guess I think I let me guess let me guess I think I think it's all across the Watchtower is think it's all across the Watchtower is think it's all across the Watchtower is that Jimmy that Jimmy that Jimmy Hendrick uh Bob Dylan actually but I Hendrick uh Bob Dylan actually but I Hendrick uh Bob Dylan actually but I think jimmi Hendricks made it really think jimmi Hendricks made it really think jimmi Hendricks made it really really freaking awesome yeah yeah really freaking awesome yeah yeah really freaking awesome yeah yeah yeah I'm here in London so I felt more yeah I'm here in London so I felt more yeah I'm here in London so I felt more Jimmy in that than Bob Dylan yeah well Jimmy in that than Bob Dylan yeah well Jimmy in that than Bob Dylan yeah well you know and no that was definitely you know and no that was definitely you know and no that was definitely Jimmy and that's where you know For Jimmy and that's where you know For Jimmy and that's where you know For Better or Worse that's where Hendrick Better or Worse that's where Hendrick Better or Worse that's where Hendrick got popular and where he became somebody got popular and where he became somebody got popular and where he became somebody was when he was in the was when he was in the was when he was in the UK yeah yeah nobody gave a crap about UK yeah yeah nobody gave a crap about UK yeah yeah nobody gave a crap about him in the US blew up I love all those I him in the US blew up I love all those I him in the US blew up I love all those I love all these documentaries and you see love all these documentaries and you see love all these documentaries and you see all these legendary rock legends from all these legendary rock legends from all these legendary rock legends from from the UK and from back then and from the UK and from back then and from the UK and from back then and they're talking about when they saw they're talking about when they saw they're talking about when they saw Hendrick on stage and they're like oh Hendrick on stage and they're like oh Hendrick on stage and they're like oh man we're gonna all be put out of man we're gonna all be put out of man we're gonna all be put out of business this guy's a freak oh yeah yeah business this guy's a freak oh yeah yeah business this guy's a freak oh yeah yeah yeah you know Pete Townsen um he was yeah you know Pete Townsen um he was yeah you know Pete Townsen um he was really phased by it yeah you know he really phased by it yeah you know he really phased by it yeah you know he first saw him and the reaction that the first saw him and the reaction that the first saw him and the reaction that the London uh London uh London uh scene uh gave scene uh gave scene uh gave um yeah Jimmy they just freaked out and um yeah Jimmy they just freaked out and um yeah Jimmy they just freaked out and a lot of lot of artists just wanted to a lot of lot of artists just wanted to a lot of lot of artists just wanted to give up it was like a lot of them are give up it was like a lot of them are give up it was like a lot of them are just like wow it's kind of it's like just like wow it's kind of it's like just like wow it's kind of it's like it's like your aipc you just want to it's like your aipc you just want to it's like your aipc you just want to give up right now humanity is

over ouch ouch yeah it's a Jimmy over ouch ouch yeah it's a Jimmy Hendrick moment in London that's what it Hendrick moment in London that's what it Hendrick moment in London that's what it is it is it is yeah nobody cared about is it is it is yeah nobody cared about is it is it is yeah nobody cared about aipc until I brought it here and then aipc until I brought it here and then aipc until I brought it here and then you know we're going to make it a thing you know we're going to make it a thing you know we're going to make it a thing right we're going to we're going to do right we're going to we're going to do right we're going to we're going to do the whole AI PC experience you know yeah the whole AI PC experience you know yeah the whole AI PC experience you know yeah I'm looking forward to doing a I'm I'm looking forward to doing a I'm I'm looking forward to doing a I'm looking forward to you doing a live looking forward to you doing a live looking forward to you doing a live demonstration of training an AI model on demonstration of training an AI model on demonstration of training an AI model on your laptop using the your laptop using the your laptop using the npu oh npu oh npu oh yeah yeah that would be and call it Edge Computing yeah ji well yeah let's just Computing yeah ji well yeah let's just give new names for for crap that's give new names for for crap that's give new names for for crap that's already existed forever it's just people already existed forever it's just people already existed forever it's just people didn't know it but hey you know I I I didn't know it but hey you know I I I didn't know it but hey you know I I I had lunch or uh uh Tom bought me lunch had lunch or uh uh Tom bought me lunch had lunch or uh uh Tom bought me lunch he came all the way over from Bristol he came all the way over from Bristol he came all the way over from Bristol right which I yeah I looked it up and right which I yeah I looked it up and right which I yeah I looked it up and it's kind of far away it's kind of far away it's kind of far away wow yeah yeah a nice uh nice lunch at uh wow yeah yeah a nice uh nice lunch at uh wow yeah yeah a nice uh nice lunch at uh Mayfair is it 34 34 yeah joint called 34 Mayfair is it 34 34 yeah joint called 34 Mayfair is it 34 34 yeah joint called 34 was really good wow was really good wow was really good wow um yeah I was totally underdressed and um yeah I was totally underdressed and um yeah I was totally underdressed and he was even more underdressed which was he was even more underdressed which was he was even more underdressed which was was I came in a backpack and a t-shirt was I came in a backpack and a t-shirt was I came in a backpack and a t-shirt uh hey we got we got away with it right uh hey we got we got away with it right uh hey we got we got away with it right you got away they thought you were one you got away they thought you were one you got away they thought you were one of those young trendy techie guys or of those young trendy techie guys or of those young trendy techie guys or something like that wearing backpacks something like that wearing backpacks something like that wearing backpacks and t-shirts well maybe that maybe that and t-shirts well maybe that maybe that and t-shirts well maybe that maybe that was look I was going for London is a was look I was going for London is a was look I was going for London is a different definition of a Yi trainy

guy I think it's I think it's cool that guy I think it's I think it's cool that uh lard and Tom you know London for uh lard and Tom you know London for uh lard and Tom you know London for lunch and they go to Mayfair because if lunch and they go to Mayfair because if lunch and they go to Mayfair because if any of us meets with Tom and he says any of us meets with Tom and he says any of us meets with Tom and he says anything about Nando you does not anything about Nando you does not anything about Nando you does not care okay so Mayfair Park Lane care okay so Mayfair Park Lane care okay so Mayfair Park Lane expectations have been set I will take expectations have been set I will take expectations have been set I will take nothing nothing less than nothing nothing less than nothing nothing less than lunch palace with a member of the royal do you know what it was right I I royal do you know what it was right I I literally put quite a lot of thought literally put quite a lot of thought literally put quite a lot of thought into it because I thought right well I'm into it because I thought right well I'm into it because I thought right well I'm getting into p train station so I don't getting into p train station so I don't getting into p train station so I don't want Leonard to think that I can't be want Leonard to think that I can't be want Leonard to think that I can't be bothered to move so I didn't want to get bothered to move so I didn't want to get bothered to move so I didn't want to get a restaurant near patterton train a restaurant near patterton train a restaurant near patterton train station and obviously I didn't want to station and obviously I didn't want to station and obviously I didn't want to get it too far away either so that was get it too far away either so that was get it too far away either so that was the first conundrum the second one was the first conundrum the second one was the first conundrum the second one was when I didn't want to go to a chain when I didn't want to go to a chain when I didn't want to go to a chain restaurant because then it looks like I restaurant because then it looks like I restaurant because then it looks like I put no effort in but then I don't want put no effort in but then I don't want put no effort in but then I don't want to spend hundreds of pounds right so I to spend hundreds of pounds right so I to spend hundreds of pounds right so I was like what do I do and actually 34 was like what do I do and actually 34 was like what do I do and actually 34 was pretty reasonable although we was pretty reasonable although we was pretty reasonable although we laughed that it was modular in the sense laughed that it was modular in the sense laughed that it was modular in the sense it was a set menu but really it wasn't it was a set menu but really it wasn't it was a set menu but really it wasn't set because then then you had decid was set because then then you had decid was set because then then you had decid was set yeah is set with a lot of options set yeah is set with a lot of options set yeah is set with a lot of options which is basically a which is basically a which is basically a menu ah thought you were doing the menu ah thought you were doing the menu ah thought you were doing the prefix thing didn't you yeah yeah yeah prefix thing didn't you yeah yeah yeah prefix thing didn't you yeah yeah yeah that's what I thought but they got me in that's what I thought but they got me in that's what I thought but they got me in the end you know yeah yeah we talked we had latency know yeah yeah we talked we had latency issue yeah so um yeah of course Mark

issue yeah so um yeah of course Mark issue yeah so um yeah of course Mark makes the most ironic comment in all the makes the most ironic comment in all the makes the most ironic comment in all the universe by saying hey Tom's universe by saying hey Tom's universe by saying hey Tom's tall H that is the most ironic comment tall H that is the most ironic comment tall H that is the most ironic comment in the I mean I don't think Mark should in the I mean I don't think Mark should in the I mean I don't think Mark should ever use the word tall to refer to ever use the word tall to refer to ever use the word tall to refer to anyone else he should just say hey anyone else he should just say hey anyone else he should just say hey you're not as short as I thought yeah you're not as short as I thought yeah you're not as short as I thought yeah you know that's right is yeah I mean if you know that's right is yeah I mean if you know that's right is yeah I mean if anybody has stood next to that anybody has stood next to that anybody has stood next to that guy you know what feels to be short um guy you know what feels to be short um guy you know what feels to be short um but yeah Tom's a pretty big guy yeah but yeah Tom's a pretty big guy yeah but yeah Tom's a pretty big guy yeah that was I think the first impression that was I think the first impression that was I think the first impression was literally hey you look a hell of a was literally hey you look a hell of a was literally hey you look a hell of a lot bigger than your thumbnail right I lot bigger than your thumbnail right I lot bigger than your thumbnail right I mean that was like the mutual Mutual mean that was like the mutual Mutual mean that was like the mutual Mutual Revelation I I am correcting Leonard for Revelation I I am correcting Leonard for Revelation I I am correcting Leonard for our American audience you mean tall our American audience you mean tall our American audience you mean tall because when we say big guy we mean because when we say big guy we mean because when we say big guy we mean something completely different so I see something completely different so I see something completely different so I see I'm probably I'm probably a bit of both I'm probably I'm probably a bit of both I'm probably I'm probably a bit of both anyway to be fair you know uh I wasn't anyway to be fair you know uh I wasn't anyway to be fair you know uh I wasn't gonna say anything but I saw the gonna say anything but I saw the gonna say anything but I saw the picture yeah maybe a little bit of well picture yeah maybe a little bit of well picture yeah maybe a little bit of well yeah he's not he's not lightweight you yeah he's not he's not lightweight you yeah he's not he's not lightweight you know he's not lightweight that's fine know he's not lightweight that's fine know he's not lightweight that's fine you know uh but uh yeah that was that you know uh but uh yeah that was that you know uh but uh yeah that was that was pretty funny that's awesome are you was pretty funny that's awesome are you was pretty funny that's awesome are you over there making excuses for us for over there making excuses for us for over there making excuses for us for tomorrow yeah yeah yeah what is going on tomorrow yeah yeah yeah what is going on tomorrow yeah yeah yeah what is going on in London well we kicked the Brits out in London well we kicked the Brits out in London well we kicked the Brits out some years ago right yeah some years ago right yeah some years ago right yeah yeah on that note I'll get my coat yeah

yeah yeah I'm I'm here to research how yeah yeah I'm I'm here to research how Brits celebrate the Brits celebrate the Brits celebrate the fourth uh which is uh basically I don't fourth uh which is uh basically I don't fourth uh which is uh basically I don't know it's uh sarcastic right a bit I know it's uh sarcastic right a bit I know it's uh sarcastic right a bit I went to a couple of public houses and I went to a couple of public houses and I went to a couple of public houses and I saw their fourth celebrations and they saw their fourth celebrations and they saw their fourth celebrations and they do have them because there are a lot of do have them because there are a lot of do have them because there are a lot of Americans yeah there are a lot of Americans yeah there are a lot of Americans yeah there are a lot of American us folks here folks from the American us folks here folks from the American us folks here folks from the United States so they have these things United States so they have these things United States so they have these things but I think there's a quite a bit of uh but I think there's a quite a bit of uh but I think there's a quite a bit of uh sarcasm sprinkled on to the event that sarcasm sprinkled on to the event that sarcasm sprinkled on to the event that well that's very British of them to be well that's very British of them to be well that's very British of them to be sarcastic that's that's a humor which I sarcastic that's that's a humor which I sarcastic that's that's a humor which I appreciate you know so my guidance to appreciate you know so my guidance to appreciate you know so my guidance to anyone who is in Great Britain on July anyone who is in Great Britain on July anyone who is in Great Britain on July the 3 is you need to go to St panras you the 3 is you need to go to St panras you the 3 is you need to go to St panras you need to get on the Eurostar and you need need to get on the Eurostar and you need need to get on the Eurostar and you need to go to Paris immediately to France the to go to Paris immediately to France the to go to Paris immediately to France the home of home of home of democracy and our buddies who helped democracy and our buddies who helped democracy and our buddies who helped [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] us yes they were nice at once T you know us yes they were nice at once T you know us yes they were nice at once T you know and they were helpful and friendly and and they were helpful and friendly and and they were helpful and friendly and everything you know um anyway in that everything you know um anyway in that everything you know um anyway in that such and I've actually done that you such and I've actually done that you such and I've actually done that you know I remember like several years ago I know I remember like several years ago I know I remember like several years ago I was I was in L my wife I CU our our was I was in L my wife I CU our our was I was in L my wife I CU our our relatives had done m&a deal and we're relatives had done m&a deal and we're relatives had done m&a deal and we're living in uh St John's Woods actually living in uh St John's Woods actually living in uh St John's Woods actually and so we were hanging out with them at and so we were hanging out with them at and so we were hanging out with them at their fabulous house there oh my God their fabulous house there oh my God their fabulous house there oh my God that's a nice neighborhood um and um and

that's a nice neighborhood um and um and that's a nice neighborhood um and um and then yeah we got on the Eurostar and then yeah we got on the Eurostar and then yeah we got on the Eurostar and made sure we were in Paris before the made sure we were in Paris before the made sure we were in Paris before the sun came up on July the 4th and so there sun came up on July the 4th and so there sun came up on July the 4th and so there you have it folks yeah I've never been you have it folks yeah I've never been you have it folks yeah I've never been able to attend it but in Denmark on the able to attend it but in Denmark on the able to attend it but in Denmark on the highest hill I wouldn't call a mountain highest hill I wouldn't call a mountain highest hill I wouldn't call a mountain in Denmark they have a 4th of July uh in Denmark they have a 4th of July uh in Denmark they have a 4th of July uh celebration every year really yeah celebration every year really yeah celebration every year really yeah wow who knew wow I think they cated wow who knew wow I think they cated wow who knew wow I think they cated years I think at least oh interesting years I think at least oh interesting years I think at least oh interesting like why would anybody in another like why would anybody in another like why would anybody in another country care about America for any country care about America for any country care about America for any reason that's weird ranged by the Danish reason that's weird ranged by the Danish reason that's weird ranged by the Danish American um relationship American um relationship American um relationship Society I gotcha you know if we were Society I gotcha you know if we were Society I gotcha you know if we were doing also sell a lot of beer they can doing also sell a lot of beer they can doing also sell a lot of beer they can sell a lot of beer to Americans yeah I sell a lot of beer to Americans yeah I sell a lot of beer to Americans yeah I think a much more think a much more think a much more for the Dan you know s some sell some for the Dan you know s some sell some for the Dan you know s some sell some Cur I love it you know Leonard Leonard I Cur I love it you know Leonard Leonard I Cur I love it you know Leonard Leonard I think if you were gonna be doing real think if you were gonna be doing real think if you were gonna be doing real Jimmy Hendrick tomorrow you'll be Jimmy Hendrick tomorrow you'll be Jimmy Hendrick tomorrow you'll be pretending you're at Woodstock and that's a great and that's a great idea I'll ask the the guy the jam leader idea I'll ask the the guy the jam leader idea I'll ask the the guy the jam leader hey can we hey can we hey can we player I'm assuming that you're in player I'm assuming that you're in player I'm assuming that you're in London you're just out the street you're London you're just out the street you're London you're just out the street you're busking for money you know to try to busking for money you know to try to busking for money you know to try to survive as a guitarist you know although survive as a guitarist you know although survive as a guitarist you know although that is a really good idea I I could that is a really good idea I I could that is a really good idea I I could just uh buy a bucket and flip it over

just uh buy a bucket and flip it over just uh buy a bucket and flip it over and then go down to like one of the and then go down to like one of the and then go down to like one of the subway station and then just set up subway station and then just set up subway station and then just set up actually do that thing right here yeah actually do that thing right here yeah actually do that thing right here yeah you could you can play backing tracks on you could you can play backing tracks on you could you can play backing tracks on this and then yeah I have a whole I have this and then yeah I have a whole I have this and then yeah I have a whole I have a whole rig right here yeah all right so a whole rig right here yeah all right so a whole rig right here yeah all right so I expect to see I expect to see in the I expect to see I expect to see in the I expect to see I expect to see in the evening news tomorrow night you know evening news tomorrow night you know evening news tomorrow night you know disruptive American in the tube sitting disruptive American in the tube sitting disruptive American in the tube sitting there playing Jimmy there playing Jimmy there playing Jimmy hendris national anthem for the United hendris national anthem for the United hendris national anthem for the United for statos unidos um much the horror of for statos unidos um much the horror of for statos unidos um much the horror of mild mannered londoners like what is mild mannered londoners like what is mild mannered londoners like what is this this this freak oh my freak oh my freak oh my god seriously Leonard seriously why are god seriously Leonard seriously why are god seriously Leonard seriously why are you in London is some tech event that you in London is some tech event that you in London is some tech event that you're at or what yeah so AWS uh invited you're at or what yeah so AWS uh invited you're at or what yeah so AWS uh invited me out to Silverstone where they're me out to Silverstone where they're me out to Silverstone where they're going to be having the British Grand going to be having the British Grand going to be having the British Grand Prix and so I'm going to be getting a Prix and so I'm going to be getting a Prix and so I'm going to be getting a whole day worth of you know sessions and whole day worth of you know sessions and whole day worth of you know sessions and um you know tours of what AWS and um you know tours of what AWS and um you know tours of what AWS and Formula 1 are doing together on the Formula 1 are doing together on the Formula 1 are doing together on the broad broadcasting front right so you broad broadcasting front right so you broad broadcasting front right so you know people who follow me know that I I know people who follow me know that I I know people who follow me know that I I also cover um media you know and in my also cover um media you know and in my also cover um media you know and in my Consulting background I actually have Consulting background I actually have Consulting background I actually have quite an extensive amount of work that quite an extensive amount of work that quite an extensive amount of work that I've done in the media industry and so

I've done in the media industry and so I've done in the media industry and so um yeah um AWS is doing a a lot of cool um yeah um AWS is doing a a lot of cool um yeah um AWS is doing a a lot of cool stuff they're trying to push um you know stuff they're trying to push um you know stuff they're trying to push um you know broadcast uh Cloud BR broadcast uh Cloud BR broadcast uh Cloud BR broadcast um there's a lot of edge broadcast um there's a lot of edge broadcast um there's a lot of edge Computing involved in all of this stuff Computing involved in all of this stuff Computing involved in all of this stuff right because often times matters so right because often times matters so right because often times matters so it's really really interesting and it's it's really really interesting and it's it's really really interesting and it's also a nice a nice uh adjacency to the also a nice a nice uh adjacency to the also a nice a nice uh adjacency to the Telco stuff that I look at so uh it Telco stuff that I look at so uh it Telco stuff that I look at so uh it gives you a lot of perspective on how gives you a lot of perspective on how gives you a lot of perspective on how media is evolving and how it may create media is evolving and how it may create media is evolving and how it may create certain demands and opportunities on certain demands and opportunities on certain demands and opportunities on Telco side of stuff and obviously cloud Telco side of stuff and obviously cloud Telco side of stuff and obviously cloud computing right because AWS is trying to computing right because AWS is trying to computing right because AWS is trying to to Really uh bring all the cloud to Really uh bring all the cloud to Really uh bring all the cloud goodness uh to media and um I there's goodness uh to media and um I there's goodness uh to media and um I there's some interesting value propositions and some interesting value propositions and some interesting value propositions and solutions that they have been uh solutions that they have been uh solutions that they have been uh developing over the last uh few years um developing over the last uh few years um developing over the last uh few years um probably a little bit more challenging probably a little bit more challenging probably a little bit more challenging than than everyone thought um but I than than everyone thought um but I than than everyone thought um but I think with a lot of the cloud Edge Cloud think with a lot of the cloud Edge Cloud think with a lot of the cloud Edge Cloud stuff really starting to take shape stuff really starting to take shape stuff really starting to take shape especially for a lot of the especially for a lot of the especially for a lot of the hyperscalers uh I think these hyperscalers uh I think these hyperscalers uh I think these opportunities are becoming more real and opportunities are becoming more real and opportunities are becoming more real and uh technically validated by customers uh technically validated by customers uh technically validated by customers so yeah it's gonna be interesting to see so yeah it's gonna be interesting to see so yeah it's gonna be interesting to see what does you did say Telco an

what does you did say Telco an what does you did say Telco an opportunity in a single breath so just opportunity in a single breath so just opportunity in a single breath so just break down break down the opportunity break down break down the opportunity break down break down the opportunity piece for the Telco other than pushing piece for the Telco other than pushing piece for the Telco other than pushing through the pipes let let's hear Leonard through the pipes let let's hear Leonard through the pipes let let's hear Leonard yeah yeah well well you know so there's yeah yeah well well you know so there's yeah yeah well well you know so there's the okay so here this is I was watching the okay so here this is I was watching the okay so here this is I was watching a YouTube video of a Pacquiao versus uh a YouTube video of a Pacquiao versus uh a YouTube video of a Pacquiao versus uh Antonio Barrera right this is from 20 Antonio Barrera right this is from 20 Antonio Barrera right this is from 20 years ago that's and one thing I noticed years ago that's and one thing I noticed years ago that's and one thing I noticed is like in terms of the Sports is like in terms of the Sports is like in terms of the Sports Experience right nothing has changed in Experience right nothing has changed in Experience right nothing has changed in 20 years I mean I can watch that footage 20 years I mean I can watch that footage 20 years I mean I can watch that footage and it looks just like how fights are and it looks just like how fights are and it looks just like how fights are covered today and so if you're looking covered today and so if you're looking covered today and so if you're looking at what um you know a lot of these at what um you know a lot of these at what um you know a lot of these sports broadcasters and um you know and sports broadcasters and um you know and sports broadcasters and um you know and even I would say leagues and even I would say leagues and even I would say leagues and organizations are trying to do they're organizations are trying to do they're organizations are trying to do they're trying to bring forward a um uh you know trying to bring forward a um uh you know trying to bring forward a um uh you know new experiences new ways for um fans to new experiences new ways for um fans to new experiences new ways for um fans to experience the events uh the Live Events experience the events uh the Live Events experience the events uh the Live Events but then also you know to experience it but then also you know to experience it but then also you know to experience it again uh you know uh on platforms such again uh you know uh on platforms such again uh you know uh on platforms such as YouTube blah blah blah and so um you as YouTube blah blah blah and so um you as YouTube blah blah blah and so um you know when I was at nav there was a lot know when I was at nav there was a lot know when I was at nav there was a lot of talk about of talk about of talk about immersive um media and you know as a lot

immersive um media and you know as a lot immersive um media and you know as a lot of us know that's struggled for a long of us know that's struggled for a long of us know that's struggled for a long time but division pro has really made a time but division pro has really made a time but division pro has really made a big difference I don't think people big difference I don't think people big difference I don't think people appreciate or understand or even know appreciate or understand or even know appreciate or understand or even know how much an impact division Pro is how much an impact division Pro is how much an impact division Pro is having in the industry uh for a lot of having in the industry uh for a lot of having in the industry uh for a lot of reason reason reason that are almost I'm pretty much the only that are almost I'm pretty much the only that are almost I'm pretty much the only one that's talking about you're the only one that's talking about you're the only one that's talking about you're the only one who's saying anything nice about the one who's saying anything nice about the one who's saying anything nice about the Vision Pro lately there's been a flurry Vision Pro lately there's been a flurry Vision Pro lately there's been a flurry of articles in the last week that Vision of articles in the last week that Vision of articles in the last week that Vision Pro is Pro is Pro is dead right if you look at it purely from dead right if you look at it purely from dead right if you look at it purely from a consumer P perspective but you always a consumer P perspective but you always a consumer P perspective but you always have to have the content first right uh have to have the content first right uh have to have the content first right uh and so um you know a sport like F1 let's and so um you know a sport like F1 let's and so um you know a sport like F1 let's say that they up their game and start to say that they up their game and start to say that they up their game and start to incorporate uh immersive media incorporate uh immersive media incorporate uh immersive media Technologies into their Technologies into their Technologies into their broadcasting uh and and also that format broadcasting uh and and also that format broadcasting uh and and also that format um think about the the premium um think about the the premium um think about the the premium experiences that they can deliver experiences that they can deliver experiences that they can deliver especially to a device like um The especially to a device like um The especially to a device like um The Vision Pro right and you know yeah if Vision Pro right and you know yeah if Vision Pro right and you know yeah if you want to get you want to get you want to get a in huh I'm I'm an a Formula 1 fan okay a in huh I'm I'm an a Formula 1 fan okay a in huh I'm I'm an a Formula 1 fan okay and then you must want to kill and then you must want to kill and then you must want to kill me I Z given what happened recent years me I Z given what happened recent years me I Z given what happened recent years I'm I'm about to give up but anyway this I'm I'm about to give up but anyway this I'm I'm about to give up but anyway this side I think that the I there's one side I think that the I there's one side I think that the I there's one first thing that the media could do on first thing that the media could do on first thing that the media could do on formula one is actually make the not formula one is actually make the not formula one is actually make the not live experience better because most of

live experience better because most of live experience better because most of the people you you can't because it's the people you you can't because it's the people you you can't because it's worldwide watch the the all the races worldwide watch the the all the races worldwide watch the the all the races life so I can understand this Vision Pro life so I can understand this Vision Pro life so I can understand this Vision Pro emergent kind of things but by the way emergent kind of things but by the way emergent kind of things but by the way if by any chance you mean some you meet if by any chance you mean some you meet if by any chance you mean some you meet Leonard somebody who has a connection to Leonard somebody who has a connection to Leonard somebody who has a connection to the f TV app I want the contact the f TV app I want the contact the f TV app I want the contact information because the people information because the people information because the people responsible for the design of this responsible for the design of this responsible for the design of this application are the biggest fre application are the biggest fre application are the biggest fre imbecil that I have no clue about the imbecil that I have no clue about the imbecil that I have no clue about the sport that I have met in I would meet in sport that I have met in I would meet in sport that I have met in I would meet in my life this app why don't you send me my life this app why don't you send me my life this app why don't you send me some bullet points some recommendation I some bullet points some recommendation I some bullet points some recommendation I can if you this app is awful it's can if you this app is awful it's can if you this app is awful it's basically the live experience recorded basically the live experience recorded basically the live experience recorded in a sequence that you can watch so I in a sequence that you can watch so I in a sequence that you can watch so I mean if you don't want the spoiler alert mean if you don't want the spoiler alert mean if you don't want the spoiler alert you be need to be extremely EX ex you be need to be extremely EX ex you be need to be extremely EX ex careful so it's so but my point is that careful so it's so but my point is that careful so it's so but my point is that be able to Rel a live show when you be able to Rel a live show when you be able to Rel a live show when you cannot attend live because it's cannot attend live because it's cannot attend live because it's happening at 2 A.M in the morning seems happening at 2 A.M in the morning seems happening at 2 A.M in the morning seems to be a much more interesting news case to be a much more interesting news case to be a much more interesting news case to me than giving Vision Pros to a very to me than giving Vision Pros to a very to me than giving Vision Pros to a very tiny portion of the fans that can afford tiny portion of the fans that can afford tiny portion of the fans that can afford it so they can see more so yeah I mean it so they can see more so yeah I mean it so they can see more so yeah I mean you know obviously yeah yeah I mean you know obviously yeah yeah I mean you know obviously yeah yeah I mean that's I don't know in my opinion one is that's I don't know in my opinion one is that's I don't know in my opinion one is here like I'm surrounded by freaking here like I'm surrounded by freaking here like I'm surrounded by freaking idiots freaking idiots oh yes that's idiots freaking idiots oh yes that's idiots freaking idiots oh yes that's true no but but this one is the true no but but this one is the true no but but this one is the king the one that everybody could in king the one that everybody could in king the one that everybody could in boss so yeah but you know I mean a lot boss so yeah but you know I mean a lot boss so yeah but you know I mean a lot of what we're going to be uh what I of what we're going to be uh what I of what we're going to be uh what I assume that I'm going to be witnessing assume that I'm going to be witnessing assume that I'm going to be witnessing or um learning about are some of the or um learning about are some of the or um learning about are some of the more Progressive things that formula 1's

more Progressive things that formula 1's more Progressive things that formula 1's going to be doing right I mean there's going to be doing right I mean there's going to be doing right I mean there's no reason for them to invite us out just no reason for them to invite us out just no reason for them to invite us out just to a bunch of to a bunch of to a bunch of mundane stuff by way this side media I mundane stuff by way this side media I mundane stuff by way this side media I think amaz there there's two other area think amaz there there's two other area think amaz there there's two other area where Tech has a big impact beside media where Tech has a big impact beside media where Tech has a big impact beside media in in F1 is obviously all the in in F1 is obviously all the in in F1 is obviously all the predictions that it can do because predictions that it can do because predictions that it can do because there's a massive amount of data and by there's a massive amount of data and by there's a massive amount of data and by the way I don't know if you know that the way I don't know if you know that the way I don't know if you know that but F1 makes most of the data available but F1 makes most of the data available but F1 makes most of the data available so not at the necessarily the High so not at the necessarily the High so not at the necessarily the High Fidelity that the teams have but you can Fidelity that the teams have but you can Fidelity that the teams have but you can actually go on the website and download actually go on the website and download actually go on the website and download all those data sets from the race and all those data sets from the race and all those data sets from the race and the recording so there's an interesting the recording so there's an interesting the recording so there's an interesting side of element of there and uh and then side of element of there and uh and then side of element of there and uh and then obviously there is all the digital twin obviously there is all the digital twin obviously there is all the digital twin technologies that the teams using thems technologies that the teams using thems technologies that the teams using thems which you're probably not going to learn which you're probably not going to learn which you're probably not going to learn more because it's kind of very high more because it's kind of very high more because it's kind of very high intellectual property but there are intellectual property but there are intellectual property but there are those three areas where Tech is those three areas where Tech is those three areas where Tech is significantly impacted F1 so it's it's a significantly impacted F1 so it's it's a significantly impacted F1 so it's it's a very high tech Sports in software as very high tech Sports in software as very high tech Sports in software as well yeah and you know it's not all well yeah and you know it's not all well yeah and you know it's not all about data uh in terms of like analytics about data uh in terms of like analytics about data uh in terms of like analytics uh some of it is just uh being able to uh some of it is just uh being able to uh some of it is just uh being able to have Telemetry to enable new um you know have Telemetry to enable new um you know have Telemetry to enable new um you know uh production capabilities you know yeah uh production capabilities you know yeah uh production capabilities you know yeah this is I mean this is existed in F1 for like decades no it is existed in F1 for like decades no it is but it's it's not necessarily um old is but it's it's not necessarily um old is but it's it's not necessarily um old for media so if you saw some of the for media so if you saw some of the for media so if you saw some of the things at the NAB show what they're things at the NAB show what they're things at the NAB show what they're doing with let's say um you know scene doing with let's say um you know scene doing with let's say um you know scene cor I mean just um let's say hybrid or

cor I mean just um let's say hybrid or cor I mean just um let's say hybrid or call it hybrid Cloud scene call it hybrid Cloud scene call it hybrid Cloud scene composition uh it's actually very very composition uh it's actually very very composition uh it's actually very very um very very sensor driven um just um very very sensor driven um just um very very sensor driven um just because you're trying to blend digital because you're trying to blend digital because you're trying to blend digital stuff with the physical environment and stuff with the physical environment and stuff with the physical environment and um you need to have sensors that can do um you need to have sensors that can do um you need to have sensors that can do an immense amount of uh Precision an immense amount of uh Precision an immense amount of uh Precision tracking uh to make everything look tracking uh to make everything look tracking uh to make everything look professional right and it has to be real professional right and it has to be real professional right and it has to be real time and it it's a very localized time and it it's a very localized time and it it's a very localized application but it's a it's an example application but it's a it's an example application but it's a it's an example of how um you know some uh you know call of how um you know some uh you know call of how um you know some uh you know call it critical categories of iot uh could it critical categories of iot uh could it critical categories of iot uh could be uh could enable some be uh could enable some be uh could enable some really cool really cool really cool Innovations in uh on the media front Innovations in uh on the media front Innovations in uh on the media front yeah on this font on this font I would yeah on this font on this font I would yeah on this font on this font I would agree because it is true that in the agree because it is true that in the agree because it is true that in the recent two three years the amount of recent two three years the amount of recent two three years the amount of data that is injected in the live show data that is injected in the live show data that is injected in the live show you know suring POS on the car which you know suring POS on the car which you know suring POS on the car which kind of the metrics or when is they are kind of the metrics or when is they are kind of the metrics or when is they are breaking what is the g-forces what is breaking what is the g-forces what is breaking what is the g-forces what is the speed there's been a lot of progress the speed there's been a lot of progress the speed there's been a lot of progress on that on that on that definitely yeah and yeah and then just definitely yeah and yeah and then just definitely yeah and yeah and then just really quickly one of the revolutions really quickly one of the revolutions really quickly one of the revolutions that I I I I'm I I think we're going to that I I I I'm I I think we're going to that I I I I'm I I think we're going to see coming down the pike U with the see coming down the pike U with the see coming down the pike U with the Vision Pro and all the production Vision Pro and all the production Vision Pro and all the production pipelines that they're starting to build pipelines that they're starting to build pipelines that they're starting to build out right is um live broadcast and you out right is um live broadcast and you out right is um live broadcast and you know say immersive video once you do know say immersive video once you do know say immersive video once you do that dude it's freaking ridiculous that dude it's freaking ridiculous that dude it's freaking ridiculous because right now you can't do that because right now you can't do that because right now you can't do that because you have to go and there's this

because you have to go and there's this because you have to go and there's this whole manual workflow that's completely whole manual workflow that's completely whole manual workflow that's completely non automated to compose the content you non automated to compose the content you non automated to compose the content you can't do it live but see this is the can't do it live but see this is the can't do it live but see this is the thing that you know what you can do with thing that you know what you can do with thing that you know what you can do with your Vis your your iPhone 15 um camera your Vis your your iPhone 15 um camera your Vis your your iPhone 15 um camera with the special video you can record with the special video you can record with the special video you can record basically stuff live because it does all basically stuff live because it does all basically stuff live because it does all the processing right on device in real the processing right on device in real the processing right on device in real time um that didn't exist time um that didn't exist time um that didn't exist before so that's a before so that's a before so that's a pretty deal so so leard some of the pretty deal so so leard some of the pretty deal so so leard some of the announcement earlier on was like ESP announcement earlier on was like ESP announcement earlier on was like ESP ESPN was working ESPN was working ESPN was working with um um what's that U met at the time with um um what's that U met at the time with um um what's that U met at the time whatever and I'm assuming there's whatever and I'm assuming there's whatever and I'm assuming there's something with the Vision Pro too have something with the Vision Pro too have something with the Vision Pro too have you have you tried any of those you have you tried any of those you have you tried any of those immersive experience especially in the immersive experience especially in the immersive experience especially in the Sports World and is it real or is it Sports World and is it real or is it Sports World and is it real or is it just still in just still in just still in development I think you know in terms of development I think you know in terms of development I think you know in terms of the content is real being able to do it the content is real being able to do it the content is real being able to do it broadcast live broadcast live broadcast live broadcast uh you know being able to broadcast uh you know being able to broadcast uh you know being able to produce it uh for live broadcast that produce it uh for live broadcast that produce it uh for live broadcast that isn't real yeah isn't real yeah isn't real yeah you had to get like yeah you had to get you had to get like yeah you had to get you had to get like yeah you had to get two files and then freaking Stitch the two files and then freaking Stitch the two files and then freaking Stitch the crap together it's a manual process crap together it's a manual process crap together it's a manual process there was no there was no there was no optimation apple solved that problem optimation apple solved that problem optimation apple solved that problem that is the big deal that no one talks that is the big deal that no one talks that is the big deal that no one talks about that is a big fraking deal about that is a big fraking deal about that is a big fraking deal right because I can see with Formula One right because I can see with Formula One right because I can see with Formula One you go on the actual live Formula One or you go on the actual live Formula One or you go on the actual live Formula One or do you just watch it on TV because I

do you just watch it on TV because I do you just watch it on TV because I mean that could be interesting to be mean that could be interesting to be mean that could be interesting to be able to switch places If instead of able to switch places If instead of able to switch places If instead of going uh add a Formula One event where going uh add a Formula One event where going uh add a Formula One event where you can only see it from one angle right you can only see it from one angle right you can only see it from one angle right if you can then kind of just say I want if you can then kind of just say I want if you can then kind of just say I want to see it here I want to go over there I to see it here I want to go over there I to see it here I want to go over there I want to go there to kind of yeah it was want to go there to kind of yeah it was want to go there to kind of yeah it was part of the vision of Liberty Media when part of the vision of Liberty Media when part of the vision of Liberty Media when when they created the F1 app so the when they created the F1 app so the when they created the F1 app so the answer is I always watch through the F1 answer is I always watch through the F1 answer is I always watch through the F1 app now you don't have the choices of app now you don't have the choices of app now you don't have the choices of angles of you yet but you do have angles of you yet but you do have angles of you yet but you do have several feeds so you have a data feed several feeds so you have a data feed several feeds so you have a data feed you have a race position on the map feed you have a race position on the map feed you have a race position on the map feed and you have a kind of the live feed and you have a kind of the live feed and you have a kind of the live feed that you see so I mean there is that you see so I mean there is that you see so I mean there is potential but the it's just a potential but the it's just a potential but the it's just a the implementation is not made thinking the implementation is not made thinking the implementation is not made thinking okay I have somebody that's going to okay I have somebody that's going to okay I have somebody that's going to watch the weekend remotes and watch the weekend remotes and watch the weekend remotes and asynchronous which is a very which is my asynchronous which is a very which is my asynchronous which is a very which is my use case basically when I can watch live use case basically when I can watch live use case basically when I can watch live I watch live but when I because of of I watch live but when I because of of I watch live but when I because of of time difference and then the expense is time difference and then the expense is time difference and then the expense is poor and and see that's the other thing poor and and see that's the other thing poor and and see that's the other thing if you ever seen some of these uh like if you ever seen some of these uh like if you ever seen some of these uh like the uh PGA uh golf app to be able to see the uh PGA uh golf app to be able to see the uh PGA uh golf app to be able to see the track and all the cars running the track and all the cars running the track and all the cars running around and real time on the golf course around and real time on the golf course around and real time on the golf course the live that would be cool and even the live that would be cool and even the live that would be cool and even with the the the you know the replay with the the the you know the replay with the the the you know the replay that would be awesome right then you can that would be awesome right then you can that would be awesome right then you can watch the whole whole uh race and see watch the whole whole uh race and see watch the whole whole uh race and see all the elements um you know racing all the elements um you know racing all the elements um you know racing around the track and then you see all around the track and then you see all around the track and then you see all the statistics the Telemetry blah blah the statistics the Telemetry blah blah the statistics the Telemetry blah blah blah um the commentary I mean that's a

blah um the commentary I mean that's a blah um the commentary I mean that's a experience and imagine what boxing you'd experience and imagine what boxing you'd experience and imagine what boxing you'd have like sweat flying at you you know I have like sweat flying at you you know I have like sweat flying at you you know I want sweat flying at want sweat flying at want sweat flying at me and I want the haptic feedback I want me and I want the haptic feedback I want me and I want the haptic feedback I want to feel it hit me in the yeah yeah to feel it hit me in the yeah yeah to feel it hit me in the yeah yeah that's the Peete he didn't say a single that's the Peete he didn't say a single that's the Peete he didn't say a single word he got so bored with this word he got so bored with this word he got so bored with this conversation he's like I am so out of conversation he's like I am so out of conversation he's like I am so out of here I don't even know where I am so you here I don't even know where I am so you here I don't even know where I am so you know you know the F1 teams right so um know you know the F1 teams right so um know you know the F1 teams right so um we we did some work with with F1 and we we did some work with with F1 and we we did some work with with F1 and it's actually a really interesting story it's actually a really interesting story it's actually a really interesting story if you look at the history of of of if you look at the history of of of if you look at the history of of of Bernie Eon and you know for good or for Bernie Eon and you know for good or for Bernie Eon and you know for good or for bad right about F1 and the rights Etc bad right about F1 and the rights Etc bad right about F1 and the rights Etc but a couple of years ago they bought but a couple of years ago they bought but a couple of years ago they bought the rights back in to start delivering the rights back in to start delivering the rights back in to start delivering direct to Consumer uh like pay to playay direct to Consumer uh like pay to playay direct to Consumer uh like pay to playay streams right so helmet cams and other streams right so helmet cams and other streams right so helmet cams and other bits and pieces and they're and they're bits and pieces and they're and they're bits and pieces and they're and they're actually quite Advanced if you look at actually quite Advanced if you look at actually quite Advanced if you look at the overlays and what they've done as a the overlays and what they've done as a the overlays and what they've done as a business compared to say I don't know business compared to say I don't know business compared to say I don't know like the soccer industry or or or like the soccer industry or or or like the soccer industry or or or whatever right it's just not quite as whatever right it's just not quite as whatever right it's just not quite as good as F1 so F1 are actually they're a good as F1 so F1 are actually they're a good as F1 so F1 are actually they're a good unit there the guy that runs it good unit there the guy that runs it good unit there the guy that runs it it's called Pete Samara um he's been it's called Pete Samara um he's been it's called Pete Samara um he's been there for years but um they're actually there for years but um they're actually there for years but um they're actually yeah they they know what they're doing yeah they they know what they're doing yeah they they know what they're doing does that make sense it does and it's does that make sense it does and it's does that make sense it does and it's weird because we could totally see weird because we could totally see weird because we could totally see Leonard like getting dressed or getting Leonard like getting dressed or getting Leonard like getting dressed or getting ready he's getting his hair done and ready he's getting his hair done and ready he's getting his hair done and stuff like that in the mirror you know stuff like that in the mirror you know stuff like that in the mirror you know this is stuff that nobody was asking for this is stuff that nobody was asking for this is stuff that nobody was asking for when they tuned in to the show we don't when they tuned in to the show we don't when they tuned in to the show we don't need to see that I mean you you were need to see that I mean you you were need to see that I mean you you were asking for sweat fying at you though so asking for sweat fying at you though so asking for sweat fying at you though so know what you do in your own time is up

know what you do in your own time is up know what you do in your own time is up to you so Tom tell me is the phenomenon to you so Tom tell me is the phenomenon to you so Tom tell me is the phenomenon like when I'm when I'm over freaking like when I'm when I'm over freaking like when I'm when I'm over freaking mirrors in here yeah when I'm in when mirrors in here yeah when I'm in when mirrors in here yeah when I'm in when I'm over there in Britain and I'm I'm over there in Britain and I'm I'm over there in Britain and I'm watching the Telly and the the news and watching the Telly and the the news and watching the Telly and the the news and I still see guys doing in the news but I still see guys doing in the news but I still see guys doing in the news but they're actually reading the newspapers they're actually reading the newspapers they're actually reading the newspapers from somebody else and they're in from somebody else and they're in from somebody else and they're in today's time London times it's is that today's time London times it's is that today's time London times it's is that still a thing I don't know if we do no I still a thing I don't know if we do no I still a thing I don't know if we do no I don't think we do that I think that's I don't think we do that I think that's I don't think we do that I think that's I remember I've seen that happen a lot in remember I've seen that happen a lot in remember I've seen that happen a lot in the past where it's like you're old the past where it's like you're old the past where it's like you're old you're on Old ver.com their whole show you're on Old ver.com their whole show you're on Old ver.com their whole show is basically we don't have any of our is basically we don't have any of our is basically we don't have any of our own content and we're just going to read own content and we're just going to read own content and we're just going to read all the tabloids and the newspapers they all the tabloids and the newspapers they all the tabloids and the newspapers they do they do do that yeah yeah yeah so do they do do that yeah yeah yeah so do they do do that yeah yeah yeah so that's a Saturday morning and Sunday that's a Saturday morning and Sunday that's a Saturday morning and Sunday morning thing okay um so yeah so that's morning thing okay um so yeah so that's morning thing okay um so yeah so that's like Sunday morning breakfast and like Sunday morning breakfast and like Sunday morning breakfast and they'll go through like you know we call they'll go through like you know we call they'll go through like you know we call them red poops right so it's kind of them red poops right so it's kind of them red poops right so it's kind of like the the the kind of cheesy the like the the the kind of cheesy the like the the the kind of cheesy the cheesy newspapers but they'll go through cheesy newspapers but they'll go through cheesy newspapers but they'll go through the broad sheets as well to the the broad sheets as well to the the broad sheets as well to the Telegraph and times Etc but I miss the Telegraph and times Etc but I miss the Telegraph and times Etc but I miss the excitement excitement excitement of but also miss the excitement and of but also miss the excitement and of but also miss the excitement and thrill of seeing Pierce Morgan on Good thrill of seeing Pierce Morgan on Good thrill of seeing Pierce Morgan on Good Morning Britain well he got kiic he got Morning Britain well he got kiic he got Morning Britain well he got kiic he got kicked off right I think I kicked off right I think I kicked off right I think I think I think the um I think the the think I think the um I think the the think I think the um I think the the reason why they do that is quite reason why they do that is quite reason why they do that is quite interesting actually because it kind of interesting actually because it kind of interesting actually because it kind of links back to AI in a way right because links back to AI in a way right because links back to AI in a way right because if you go on say feedly.com or or you if you go on say feedly.com or or you if you go on say feedly.com or or you have some AI news aggregator it doesn't have some AI news aggregator it doesn't have some AI news aggregator it doesn't necessarily show or share the opinion of necessarily show or share the opinion of necessarily show or share the opinion of the journalist right so why people are

the journalist right so why people are the journalist right so why people are interested is because the journalist has interested is because the journalist has interested is because the journalist has written it for the newspaper and it's a written it for the newspaper and it's a written it for the newspaper and it's a News correspondent opinion on the News correspondent opinion on the News correspondent opinion on the journalist and and clearly it still journalist and and clearly it still journalist and and clearly it still works otherwise they wouldn't do it yeah works otherwise they wouldn't do it yeah works otherwise they wouldn't do it yeah but if you just wanted to consume the but if you just wanted to consume the but if you just wanted to consume the news then you'd just get an RSS feed or news then you'd just get an RSS feed or news then you'd just get an RSS feed or you'd just read it or whatever right so you'd just read it or whatever right so you'd just read it or whatever right so yeah they still do do it uh yeah it does yeah they still do do it uh yeah it does yeah they still do do it uh yeah it does feel terribly oldfashioned and they've feel terribly oldfashioned and they've feel terribly oldfashioned and they've got a cup of tea of course whil of got a cup of tea of course whil of got a cup of tea of course whil of course so in the spirit of that I'm course so in the spirit of that I'm course so in the spirit of that I'm going to do that now I don't have my own going to do that now I don't have my own going to do that now I don't have my own content and I'm going to have my tea content and I'm going to have my tea content and I'm going to have my tea it's actually coffee um and here's some it's actually coffee um and here's some it's actually coffee um and here's some news from somebody news from somebody news from somebody else that's like a really good linkbait else that's like a really good linkbait else that's like a really good linkbait headline right you know WR that ZDNet headline right you know WR that ZDNet headline right you know WR that ZDNet yeah and that I mean this hey kids if yeah and that I mean this hey kids if yeah and that I mean this hey kids if you're trying to write comment content you're trying to write comment content you're trying to write comment content for the internet that gets people to for the internet that gets people to for the internet that gets people to click this is a good example if intel click this is a good example if intel click this is a good example if intel can't come up with a Qualcomm killer can't come up with a Qualcomm killer can't come up with a Qualcomm killer soon it's game over for x86 PCS it's soon it's game over for x86 PCS it's soon it's game over for x86 PCS it's over yeah how many views does it have or over yeah how many views does it have or over yeah how many views does it have or how many reads I don't know how many reads I don't know how many reads I don't know it's it's it's not they'll be eating their words yeah not they'll be eating their words yeah not they'll be eating their words yeah in about three months but there's like a in about three months but there's like a in about three months but there's like a manual that you have to read and a manual that you have to read and a manual that you have to read and a special course you need to go to to special course you need to go to to special course you need to go to to learn how to write content that the learn how to write content that the learn how to write content that the content actually doesn't matter just content actually doesn't matter just content actually doesn't matter just make sure the headline is clicky click make sure the headline is clicky click make sure the headline is clicky click bait baby day exactly it's game over for bait baby day exactly it's game over for bait baby day exactly it's game over for x86 PCS Intel is about to go out of x86 PCS Intel is about to go out of x86 PCS Intel is about to go out of business and remember folks don't take

business and remember folks don't take business and remember folks don't take anything we say seriously this is not a anything we say seriously this is not a anything we say seriously this is not a recommendation for stock picking or recommendation for stock picking or recommendation for stock picking or disclaimer you doing it now well kind of disclaimer you doing it now well kind of disclaimer you doing it now well kind of happened as we read that tell under the happened as we read that tell under the happened as we read that tell under the bus so you bus so you bus so you know an observation and then I have know an observation and then I have know an observation and then I have another question for learner but if another question for learner but if another question for learner but if you're still watching shows where a you're still watching shows where a you're still watching shows where a journalist is reading from you know journalist is reading from you know journalist is reading from you know magazine or it's a good thing because magazine or it's a good thing because magazine or it's a good thing because there's someone a journalist who can there's someone a journalist who can there's someone a journalist who can still read not like other people we call still read not like other people we call still read not like other people we call journalist and that's that's another journalist and that's that's another journalist and that's that's another story right at least people could read story right at least people could read story right at least people could read um Leonard uh and and maybe also to uh um Leonard uh and and maybe also to uh um Leonard uh and and maybe also to uh Dimitri we've this whole thing of um Dimitri we've this whole thing of um Dimitri we've this whole thing of um teeking media to deliver a new Fan teeking media to deliver a new Fan teeking media to deliver a new Fan Experience new feeds new Experience new feeds new Experience new feeds new okay I want to hear from you guys if okay I want to hear from you guys if okay I want to hear from you guys if this at the end of the day it's going to this at the end of the day it's going to this at the end of the day it's going to come down to gambling and micro gambling come down to gambling and micro gambling come down to gambling and micro gambling if the experience that we're talking if the experience that we're talking if the experience that we're talking about is that in F1 I have so many feeds about is that in F1 I have so many feeds about is that in F1 I have so many feeds and I have a Vision Pro that I can make and I have a Vision Pro that I can make and I have a Vision Pro that I can make a micro bet on turn three at Silverstone a micro bet on turn three at Silverstone a micro bet on turn three at Silverstone that Saints is going to pass Hamilton or that Saints is going to pass Hamilton or that Saints is going to pass Hamilton or that in boxing the next punch will be a that in boxing the next punch will be a that in boxing the next punch will be a left hook versus a right this this sort left hook versus a right this this sort left hook versus a right this this sort of thing that continues to develop and I of thing that continues to develop and I of thing that continues to develop and I tell you where I'm coming from yeah yeah tell you where I'm coming from yeah yeah tell you where I'm coming from yeah yeah I'm a baseball fan my entire life it's I'm a baseball fan my entire life it's I'm a baseball fan my entire life it's been legal to gamble on the outcome of been legal to gamble on the outcome of been legal to gamble on the outcome of baseball for you know a long long time

baseball for you know a long long time baseball for you know a long long time but not until recently we have the big but not until recently we have the big but not until recently we have the big gambling companies that are in deals gambling companies that are in deals gambling companies that are in deals with Major League Baseball Like the Wolf with Major League Baseball Like the Wolf with Major League Baseball Like the Wolf is inside the chicken Co and I I cannot is inside the chicken Co and I I cannot is inside the chicken Co and I I cannot help but to think that this is where help but to think that this is where help but to think that this is where things are going so I don't know if you things are going so I don't know if you things are going so I don't know if you have any reaction to this whole gambling have any reaction to this whole gambling have any reaction to this whole gambling and new experiences in in in sports and new experiences in in in sports and new experiences in in in sports because a lot yeah it's part of it but because a lot yeah it's part of it but because a lot yeah it's part of it but what I'm talking about is a little bit what I'm talking about is a little bit what I'm talking about is a little bit different from the gaming aspect and different from the gaming aspect and different from the gaming aspect and you're absolutely right I mean there's a you're absolutely right I mean there's a you're absolutely right I mean there's a lot of company I mean Microsoft is even lot of company I mean Microsoft is even lot of company I mean Microsoft is even in there to a certain degree at least in there to a certain degree at least in there to a certain degree at least providing the Frameworks for the micro providing the Frameworks for the micro providing the Frameworks for the micro that would support things like micro that would support things like micro that would support things like micro Bing because I mean think about like Bing because I mean think about like Bing because I mean think about like Xbox you know and a lot of the gaming Xbox you know and a lot of the gaming Xbox you know and a lot of the gaming Frameworks are just completely perfect Frameworks are just completely perfect Frameworks are just completely perfect for that stuff or it's a gamble every for that stuff or it's a gamble every for that stuff or it's a gamble every time you boot up Windows 11 but um yeah man um I think it's uh 11 but um yeah man um I think it's uh but what I'm talking about is really but what I'm talking about is really but what I'm talking about is really more about uh in terms of like the the more about uh in terms of like the the more about uh in terms of like the the visual and the audio you know just like visual and the audio you know just like visual and the audio you know just like sort of the experience you know experien sort of the experience you know experien sort of the experience you know experien the actual uh event and what's happening the actual uh event and what's happening the actual uh event and what's happening on court or on the racetrack and uh you on court or on the racetrack and uh you on court or on the racetrack and uh you know taking things from that know taking things from that know taking things from that 2023 uh 2023 uh 2023 uh 2003 actually Pacquiao fight to 2003 actually Pacquiao fight to 2003 actually Pacquiao fight to something new you know where sweat is something new you know where sweat is something new you know where sweat is flying at you in 3D and if you've ever flying at you in 3D and if you've ever flying at you in 3D and if you've ever watched um the immersive there's a watched um the immersive there's a watched um the immersive there's a there's a demo that apple does when you there's a demo that apple does when you there's a demo that apple does when you put the Vision Pro on where your court

put the Vision Pro on where your court put the Vision Pro on where your court side and you can also um you know uh see side and you can also um you know uh see side and you can also um you know uh see a view from behind the glass and to see a view from behind the glass and to see a view from behind the glass and to see LeBron James basically Elevate and dunk LeBron James basically Elevate and dunk LeBron James basically Elevate and dunk and have that view is actually pretty and have that view is actually pretty and have that view is actually pretty amazing you know and I think people yeah amazing you know and I think people yeah amazing you know and I think people yeah I mean you were just not going to get I mean you were just not going to get I mean you were just not going to get that on um Regular you know 2D exp this that on um Regular you know 2D exp this that on um Regular you know 2D exp this where Leonard throws Oculus under the where Leonard throws Oculus under the where Leonard throws Oculus under the bus yeah a couple of you know Oculus bus yeah a couple of you know Oculus bus yeah a couple of you know Oculus will eventually get there but there will eventually get there but there will eventually get there but there again they didn't they didn't they were again they didn't they didn't they were again they didn't they didn't they were focused so much on gaming they they did focused so much on gaming they they did focused so much on gaming they they did they are now behind on what apple is they are now behind on what apple is they are now behind on what apple is doing and if you watch doing and if you watch doing and if you watch WWDC 20 WWDC 20 WWDC 20 24 this is where they're going they're 24 this is where they're going they're 24 this is where they're going they're not focusing on gaming they're focusing not focusing on gaming they're focusing not focusing on gaming they're focusing on the content you know the immersive on the content you know the immersive on the content you know the immersive content so they're leaning in on content so they're leaning in on content so they're leaning in on immersive video spatial immersive video spatial immersive video spatial video and and um March next year there's video and and um March next year there's video and and um March next year there's going to be a ton of content produced by going to be a ton of content produced by going to be a ton of content produced by us as well as you know sports us as well as you know sports us as well as you know sports broadcasters the you know like freaking broadcasters the you know like freaking broadcasters the you know like freaking Marvel you know all the Disney Marvel you know all the Disney Marvel you know all the Disney properties all the here's my hot take properties all the here's my hot take properties all the here's my hot take for Apple Vision Pro since before before for Apple Vision Pro since before before for Apple Vision Pro since before before you go into that uh Rob uh just I gotta you go into that uh Rob uh just I gotta you go into that uh Rob uh just I gotta go guys all right take care bye have fun go guys all right take care bye have fun go guys all right take care bye have fun wow that just happened just to to answer wow that just happened just to to answer wow that just happened just to to answer your question on on gambling David your question on on gambling David your question on on gambling David personally that that gambling doesn't personally that that gambling doesn't personally that that gambling doesn't pass my personal firewall I do not

pass my personal firewall I do not pass my personal firewall I do not understand the concept of gambling so understand the concept of gambling so understand the concept of gambling so I'm probably not the best person to I'm probably not the best person to I'm probably not the best person to comment on that but what is clear is comment on that but what is clear is comment on that but what is clear is that you know Tom mentioned that uh uh that you know Tom mentioned that uh uh that you know Tom mentioned that uh uh F1 you know has been acquired by limited F1 you know has been acquired by limited F1 you know has been acquired by limited media recently and well recently 10 media recently and well recently 10 media recently and well recently 10 years ago probably but and it's clear years ago probably but and it's clear years ago probably but and it's clear that there's a willingness to move the that there's a willingness to move the that there's a willingness to move the sport from kind of this glamour n sport from kind of this glamour n sport from kind of this glamour n exclusive sport to a broad Mass you know exclusive sport to a broad Mass you know exclusive sport to a broad Mass you know baseball level type of audience and I baseball level type of audience and I baseball level type of audience and I think that in this sense what I see them think that in this sense what I see them think that in this sense what I see them is a I see actually the sports becoming is a I see actually the sports becoming is a I see actually the sports becoming a reality show being much more effective a reality show being much more effective a reality show being much more effective if you look at the way the rules and if you look at the way the rules and if you look at the way the rules and regulation have happened the past years regulation have happened the past years regulation have happened the past years there's a lot of unfaces on the battle there's a lot of unfaces on the battle there's a lot of unfaces on the battle between Amon and veren and and all the between Amon and veren and and all the between Amon and veren and and all the all the controversy around the decision all the controversy around the decision all the controversy around the decision and the rues so this whole aspect of of and the rues so this whole aspect of of and the rues so this whole aspect of of reality show lizing I think is also reality show lizing I think is also reality show lizing I think is also probably one dimension together with probably one dimension together with probably one dimension together with gambling probably but gambling for me is gambling probably but gambling for me is gambling probably but gambling for me is I just don't understand so you know what I just don't understand so you know what I just don't understand so you know what dri as you talk about getting F1 to the dri as you talk about getting F1 to the dri as you talk about getting F1 to the masses all those people in the reality masses all those people in the reality masses all those people in the reality show you're basically talking about show you're basically talking about show you're basically talking about NASCAR and you're basically talking NASCAR and you're basically talking NASCAR and you're basically talking about you know about you know about you know Talladega and you are Jean Gerard and Talladega and you are Jean Gerard and Talladega and you are Jean Gerard and I'm Ricky Bobby I think know Demitri to also I Bobby I think know Demitri to also I think you're a French man you do know think you're a French man you do know think you're a French man you do know what gambling is like gambling is going what gambling is like gambling is going what gambling is like gambling is going in that height of Summer to try to take in that height of Summer to try to take in that height of Summer to try to take the metro in Paris that's a gamble

the metro in Paris that's a gamble the metro in Paris that's a gamble you've gamble I so come on you've gamble I so come on you've gamble I so come on man yeah but it's the concept of putting man yeah but it's the concept of putting man yeah but it's the concept of putting I mean there's so many to do with money I mean there's so many to do with money I mean there's so many to do with money that just the concept of putting on the that just the concept of putting on the that just the concept of putting on the table and knowing that I'm going to lose table and knowing that I'm going to lose table and knowing that I'm going to lose because this is what guming is about I'm because this is what guming is about I'm because this is what guming is about I'm just so excited I'm excited what I've just so excited I'm excited what I've just so excited I'm excited what I've heard this episode that we're gonna heard this episode that we're gonna heard this episode that we're gonna build this whole new company with Vision build this whole new company with Vision build this whole new company with Vision Pro to do micro gambling and micro Pro to do micro gambling and micro Pro to do micro gambling and micro bets on the left hook or the whatever bets on the left hook or the whatever bets on the left hook or the whatever driver's going to and you're going to do driver's going to and you're going to do driver's going to and you're going to do that in a Vision Pro I think this is that in a Vision Pro I think this is that in a Vision Pro I think this is exciting stuff because unlike unlike exciting stuff because unlike unlike exciting stuff because unlike unlike Demitri there are billions of people on Demitri there are billions of people on Demitri there are billions of people on this planet that love to this planet that love to this planet that love to gamble gamble gamble yeah do they yeah but do they love to yeah do they yeah but do they love to yeah do they yeah but do they love to gamble or is it gamble or is it gamble or is it because or is it because Society is uh because or is it because Society is uh because or is it because Society is uh is making it easy and a NE when I talk to my friends who were NE when I talk to my friends who were playing baseball and you know none of us playing baseball and you know none of us playing baseball and you know none of us made it professionally CU we were not made it professionally CU we were not made it professionally CU we were not good enough I think we understand good enough I think we understand good enough I think we understand gambling because it's something that you gambling because it's something that you gambling because it's something that you do since we're little hey I'll bet you I do since we're little hey I'll bet you I do since we're little hey I'll bet you I can hit a home run even though there was can hit a home run even though there was can hit a home run even though there was no money being transacted it's almost at no money being transacted it's almost at no money being transacted it's almost at least within baseball is part of the least within baseball is part of the least within baseball is part of the language and I think a lot a a large language and I think a lot a a large language and I think a lot a a large majority of Baseball fans place bets for majority of Baseball fans place bets for majority of Baseball fans place bets for fun meaning like hey one day I went to fun meaning like hey one day I went to fun meaning like hey one day I went to Vegas and I bet $20 and that was 15 Vegas and I bet $20 and that was 15 Vegas and I bet $20 and that was 15 years ago sort of thing you know very years ago sort of thing you know very years ago sort of thing you know very very casually but also depending where

very casually but also depending where very casually but also depending where you live it could be really difficult to you live it could be really difficult to you live it could be really difficult to place a beted you know gambling you place a beted you know gambling you place a beted you know gambling you don't you don't have a sports book don't you don't have a sports book don't you don't have a sports book everywhere in your little town like you everywhere in your little town like you everywhere in your little town like you do back home in in Dominican Republic so do back home in in Dominican Republic so do back home in in Dominican Republic so the Advent of being able to do it from the Advent of being able to do it from the Advent of being able to do it from one of these guys with you know a simple one of these guys with you know a simple one of these guys with you know a simple app I think that's making that's making app I think that's making that's making app I think that's making that's making it more accessible and I think there's it more accessible and I think there's it more accessible and I think there's more people that probably wouldn't more people that probably wouldn't more people that probably wouldn't gamble that are and the and you know and gamble that are and the and you know and gamble that are and the and you know and the societal challenges will be like hey the societal challenges will be like hey the societal challenges will be like hey is this thing addicting and I mean I I I is this thing addicting and I mean I I I is this thing addicting and I mean I I I think it is but like if it is how do you think it is but like if it is how do you think it is but like if it is how do you how do you keep the kids from uh this how do you keep the kids from uh this how do you keep the kids from uh this becoming a a a problem I mean cuz it becoming a a a problem I mean cuz it becoming a a a problem I mean cuz it will be almost like a health situation will be almost like a health situation will be almost like a health situation if you just literally gamble your rent if you just literally gamble your rent if you just literally gamble your rent money away you know your your tuition money away you know your your tuition money away you know your your tuition away your lunch money away like that's away your lunch money away like that's away your lunch money away like that's that's a problem that's very true and I that's a problem that's very true and I that's a problem that's very true and I think you're you you have the point when think you're you you have the point when think you're you you have the point when you because the way you expressed it is you because the way you expressed it is you because the way you expressed it is a it's challenging versus gambling the a it's challenging versus gambling the a it's challenging versus gambling the problem is when you start attaching problem is when you start attaching problem is when you start attaching money to it because there's nothing money to it because there's nothing money to it because there's nothing wrong is challenging oh I bet I can go wrong is challenging oh I bet I can go wrong is challenging oh I bet I can go faster you're not saying I'm going to faster you're not saying I'm going to faster you're not saying I'm going to put money on it I'm saying hey let's get put money on it I'm saying hey let's get put money on it I'm saying hey let's get a let's compete together and let's see a let's compete together and let's see a let's compete together and let's see we can do better and let's let's learn we can do better and let's let's learn we can do better and let's let's learn from that I think society makes it that from that I think society makes it that from that I think society makes it that such that if you put money into it such that if you put money into it such that if you put money into it there's kind of this hope that you might there's kind of this hope that you might there's kind of this hope that you might win and this is where the kind of the win and this is where the kind of the win and this is where the kind of the disease or the addiction and the problem disease or the addiction and the problem disease or the addiction and the problem starts yeah starts yeah starts yeah yeah I I I I I completely kind of yeah I I I I I completely kind of yeah I I I I I completely kind of disagree with gambling as a as a concept

disagree with gambling as a as a concept disagree with gambling as a as a concept I can understand it's fun for people but I can understand it's fun for people but I can understand it's fun for people but if you go and look at the book makers in if you go and look at the book makers in if you go and look at the book makers in the UK right they're in the poorest the UK right they're in the poorest the UK right they're in the poorest areas next to the boo areas next to the boo areas next to the boo stores and and I just and and I get it stores and and I just and and I get it stores and and I just and and I get it from a technology standpoint you know from a technology standpoint you know from a technology standpoint you know the micro betting aspect like the micro betting aspect like the micro betting aspect like microtransactions in general like I get microtransactions in general like I get microtransactions in general like I get it like I can understand it but it don't it like I can understand it but it don't it like I can understand it but it don't make it right you know um and and I and make it right you know um and and I and make it right you know um and and I and I actually think I actually think I actually think it's hard to know whether people enjoy it's hard to know whether people enjoy it's hard to know whether people enjoy gambling or it's in desperation of hope gambling or it's in desperation of hope gambling or it's in desperation of hope to get themselves out of the rut for to get themselves out of the rut for to get themselves out of the rut for wherever they are just this one last bet wherever they are just this one last bet wherever they are just this one last bet and it's gonna make everything better and it's gonna make everything better and it's gonna make everything better yeah yeah well and if you want to learn yeah yeah well and if you want to learn yeah yeah well and if you want to learn about how to make life better for about how to make life better for about how to make life better for yourself and gambling on baseball just yourself and gambling on baseball just yourself and gambling on baseball just go next time you're in Vegas go find go next time you're in Vegas go find go next time you're in Vegas go find Pete Rose sitting at a little card table Pete Rose sitting at a little card table Pete Rose sitting at a little card table you know signing autographs trying to be you know signing autographs trying to be you know signing autographs trying to be alive and complaining about how he was alive and complaining about how he was alive and complaining about how he was kicked out of baseball so there you go kicked out of baseball so there you go kicked out of baseball so there you go folks folks folks that's a sad thing you're Y is on that's a sad thing you're Y is on that's a sad thing you're Y is on mute hey I I was saying boort camping is mute hey I I was saying boort camping is mute hey I I was saying boort camping is a little different though right yeah a little different though right yeah a little different though right yeah because they're the people that are because they're the people that are because they're the people that are betting on sports feel they have a betting on sports feel they have a betting on sports feel they have a little bit little bit little bit more understanding because I mean more understanding because I mean more understanding because I mean they're either like Avid Baseball fans they're either like Avid Baseball fans they're either like Avid Baseball fans or football fans or something and they or football fans or something and they or football fans or something and they whereas if you go to Vegas it's really whereas if you go to Vegas it's really whereas if you go to Vegas it's really just a it's a gamble right I mean it's just a it's a gamble right I mean it's just a it's a gamble right I mean it's it's it's pure luck but but I think it's it's pure luck but but I think it's it's pure luck but but I think Sports gambling there's a lot of people Sports gambling there's a lot of people Sports gambling there's a lot of people there that go in it because they feel there that go in it because they feel there that go in it because they feel they have an advantage because they have they have an advantage because they have they have an advantage because they have looked at baseball for the last since looked at baseball for the last since looked at baseball for the last since they you know could hold a bat or they you know could hold a bat or they you know could hold a bat or whatever right I don't know if it it it

whatever right I don't know if it it it whatever right I don't know if it it it makes it different from a addictive makes it different from a addictive makes it different from a addictive perspective um but but I think it is a perspective um but but I think it is a perspective um but but I think it is a different different audience yeah you different different audience yeah you different different audience yeah you have more you have more hope because you have more you have more hope because you have more you have more hope because you don't have the rationalization of the don't have the rationalization of the don't have the rationalization of the math is against you but it's still too math is against you but it's still too math is against you but it's still too much on the on the addictive aspect to much on the on the addictive aspect to much on the on the addictive aspect to you know kind of selling the Dreams by you know kind of selling the Dreams by you know kind of selling the Dreams by the way maybe this is an era where AI the way maybe this is an era where AI the way maybe this is an era where AI could completely kill the whole thing could completely kill the whole thing could completely kill the whole thing because you can probably train some good because you can probably train some good because you can probably train some good a to be the best Gambler on every sport a to be the best Gambler on every sport a to be the best Gambler on every sport that exist here is an idea of a startup that exist here is an idea of a startup that exist here is an idea of a startup rob you know I mean per perhaps uh but rob you know I mean per perhaps uh but rob you know I mean per perhaps uh but you know the the actual so the I I think you know the the actual so the I I think you know the the actual so the I I think the name is called the the the odds the name is called the the the odds the name is called the the the odds maker you know back in the day that used maker you know back in the day that used maker you know back in the day that used to be a guy you know some that was to be a guy you know some that was to be a guy you know some that was really into sports and he's the one really into sports and he's the one really into sports and he's the one writing the spreads and it's like exact writing the spreads and it's like exact writing the spreads and it's like exact person right obviously that has been person right obviously that has been person right obviously that has been mostly automated mostly automated mostly automated because well CU look we have I mean at because well CU look we have I mean at because well CU look we have I mean at least in baseball we have a 100 Years of least in baseball we have a 100 Years of least in baseball we have a 100 Years of data sets right it's it's available you data sets right it's it's available you data sets right it's it's available you can literally download it and figure out can literally download it and figure out can literally download it and figure out what team on what day what was the score what team on what day what was the score what team on what day what was the score the play you have all this data that the play you have all this data that the play you have all this data that that is mind but to the to the bit that that is mind but to the to the bit that that is mind but to the to the bit that we're talking about I think it's very we're talking about I think it's very we're talking about I think it's very different for folks I want to do it different for folks I want to do it different for folks I want to do it again for entertainment like I have again for entertainment like I have again for entertainment like I have disposable income $20 this will be fun disposable income $20 this will be fun disposable income $20 this will be fun to do with my friends and if I win I'll to do with my friends and if I win I'll to do with my friends and if I win I'll buy dinner because we have extra money buy dinner because we have extra money buy dinner because we have extra money but if I lose I go on with my life yeah but if I lose I go on with my life yeah but if I lose I go on with my life yeah versus you know having a problem and and

versus you know having a problem and and versus you know having a problem and and maybe where AI would help would be you maybe where AI would help would be you maybe where AI would help would be you know some sort of age verification where know some sort of age verification where know some sort of age verification where in conjunction with your with a mobile in conjunction with your with a mobile in conjunction with your with a mobile device and maybe the government to device and maybe the government to device and maybe the government to verify your ID a and the bank right verify your ID a and the bank right verify your ID a and the bank right because someone has to hold your money because someone has to hold your money because someone has to hold your money to verify that you're the right age uh to verify that you're the right age uh to verify that you're the right age uh whatever that is you know I know varies whatever that is you know I know varies whatever that is you know I know varies by country but you know that would be a by country but you know that would be a by country but you know that would be a good place to uh to deploy this uh so good place to uh to deploy this uh so good place to uh to deploy this uh so that we don't have again we don't have that we don't have again we don't have that we don't have again we don't have we're not putting kids in in a in an we're not putting kids in in a in an we're not putting kids in in a in an addictive risk here it's like those wine addictive risk here it's like those wine addictive risk here it's like those wine or whatever liquor websites you go to or whatever liquor websites you go to or whatever liquor websites you go to and it pops up it says are you over and it pops up it says are you over and it pops up it says are you over 21 21 21 yes okay I'm yes okay I'm yes okay I'm in oh my God and no and it is it is in oh my God and no and it is it is in oh my God and no and it is it is laughable and I mean here we do a really laughable and I mean here we do a really laughable and I mean here we do a really good job of of not going into politics good job of of not going into politics good job of of not going into politics and I'm not but that's a regulatory rule and I'm not but that's a regulatory rule and I'm not but that's a regulatory rule Rob so someone convinced the legislators Rob so someone convinced the legislators Rob so someone convinced the legislators that that was good enough are you 18 yes that that was good enough are you 18 yes that that was good enough are you 18 yes right oh yeah great must that's that's a right oh yeah great must that's that's a right oh yeah great must that's that's a problem and we know that uh regulation problem and we know that uh regulation problem and we know that uh regulation uh is rarely ahead of uh Innovation so uh is rarely ahead of uh Innovation so uh is rarely ahead of uh Innovation so let's let's leave that one that you're let's let's leave that one that you're let's let's leave that one that you're right yeah so I got some help I got some right yeah so I got some help I got some right yeah so I got some help I got some help a few minutes ago um you know Tom help a few minutes ago um you know Tom help a few minutes ago um you know Tom gave us the link for this old gave us the link for this old gave us the link for this old version.com older version yeah old version.com older version yeah old version.com older version yeah old version.com and I clicked on it and it

version.com and I clicked on it and it version.com and I clicked on it and it launched edge browser on Windows 11 and launched edge browser on Windows 11 and launched edge browser on Windows 11 and as soon as I went to that site a little as soon as I went to that site a little as soon as I went to that site a little some helpfulness popped up from Edge some helpfulness popped up from Edge some helpfulness popped up from Edge saying would you like a VPN to protect saying would you like a VPN to protect saying would you like a VPN to protect you don't do you don't do you don't do it why does it think that's a spyware it why does it think that's a spyware it why does it think that's a spyware bad site I'm sure it's perfectly good bad site I'm sure it's perfectly good bad site I'm sure it's perfectly good safe software to just download onto your safe software to just download onto your safe software to just download onto your computer and launch just start computer and launch just start computer and launch just start clicking and I bet you and I bet you clicking and I bet you and I bet you clicking and I bet you and I bet you that in an hour rub you're GNA start that in an hour rub you're GNA start that in an hour rub you're GNA start getting emails or ads for old software getting emails or ads for old software getting emails or ads for old software yeah I bet I am yeah oh you know yeah yeah I bet I am yeah oh you know yeah yeah I bet I am yeah oh you know yeah just want to protect you because they just want to protect you because they just want to protect you because they GNA use your information to try to sell GNA use your information to try to sell GNA use your information to try to sell you something Rob I want to see I want you something Rob I want to see I want you something Rob I want to see I want to see your your Winamp skin yes the old days oh my gosh did you guys the old days oh my gosh did you guys hear um in h Hong Kong Customs they uh hear um in h Hong Kong Customs they uh hear um in h Hong Kong Customs they uh they cut a shipment of well they were they cut a shipment of well they were they cut a shipment of well they were lobsters to you know they were a bunch lobsters to you know they were a bunch lobsters to you know they were a bunch of lobsters but also about 70 k2200 of lobsters but also about 70 k2200 of lobsters but also about 70 k2200 Nvidia uh cards whoa SM yes smuggling Nvidia uh cards whoa SM yes smuggling Nvidia uh cards whoa SM yes smuggling Nvidia cards that's where we are it has Nvidia cards that's where we are it has Nvidia cards that's where we are it has begun it has begun I I read it twice I begun it has begun I I read it twice I begun it has begun I I read it twice I thought it it was I thought it was thought it it was I thought it was thought it it was I thought it was pretty cool but yeah you know um what I pretty cool but yeah you know um what I pretty cool but yeah you know um what I couldn't figure out what I mean couldn't figure out what I mean couldn't figure out what I mean obviously it's it's a supply chain thing obviously it's it's a supply chain thing obviously it's it's a supply chain thing but like why would you need to smuggle but like why would you need to smuggle but like why would you need to smuggle them then that means that you cannot buy them then that means that you cannot buy them then that means that you cannot buy them new through regular supply chain

them new through regular supply chain them new through regular supply chain channels and they had to come from channels and they had to come from channels and they had to come from somewhere so where I think there's a somewhere so where I think there's a somewhere so where I think there's a whole Market there's a under it's the whole Market there's a under it's the whole Market there's a under it's the silk road all over again but instead of silk road all over again but instead of silk road all over again but instead of high quality high quality high quality heroin it's going to be a bunch of heroin it's going to be a bunch of heroin it's going to be a bunch of graphic cards that were being graphic cards that were being graphic cards that were being underutilized somewhere and have need to underutilized somewhere and have need to underutilized somewhere and have need to find a new home true story well good find a new home true story well good find a new home true story well good luck finding a dog breed that can smell luck finding a dog breed that can smell luck finding a dog breed that can smell Nvidia chips so that's what we need now Nvidia chips so that's what we need now Nvidia chips so that's what we need now they're gonna find a way it's gonna they're gonna find a way it's gonna they're gonna find a way it's gonna happen you know and'll let's open it let happen you know and'll let's open it let happen you know and'll let's open it let let's open a animal shelter and start let's open a animal shelter and start let's open a animal shelter and start training dogs on how to smell in video training dogs on how to smell in video training dogs on how to smell in video chips no dude this is where the um this chips no dude this is where the um this chips no dude this is where the um this where the Boston the the mass robotics where the Boston the the mass robotics where the Boston the the mass robotics uh yellow robot of death will come in uh yellow robot of death will come in uh yellow robot of death will come in and through some ex-ray and Machine and through some ex-ray and Machine and through some ex-ray and Machine Vision combination uh this is a new Vision combination uh this is a new Vision combination uh this is a new thing this is a new market for robotic thing this is a new market for robotic thing this is a new market for robotic finding uh I think I think this is this finding uh I think I think this is this finding uh I think I think this is this is you called it right here this is this is you called it right here this is this is you called it right here this is this whole deal about Nvidia Black Market whole deal about Nvidia Black Market whole deal about Nvidia Black Market gray gray gray Market Market Market gangs this is like you're right it's the gangs this is like you're right it's the gangs this is like you're right it's the new drug it's the new thing it's the the new drug it's the new thing it's the the new drug it's the new thing it's the the new hottest item and people will do new hottest item and people will do new hottest item and people will do whatever they can to get that stuff whatever they can to get that stuff whatever they can to get that stuff that's that's pretty interesting it's uh that's that's pretty interesting it's uh that's that's pretty interesting it's uh and then they'll make movies about it and then they'll make movies about it and then they'll make movies about it it'll be kind of like blood diamonds and it'll be kind of like blood diamonds and it'll be kind of like blood diamonds and stuff like that you stuff like that you stuff like that you know World War World Warlords or know World War World Warlords or know World War World Warlords or whatever something like that you know

whatever something like that you know whatever something like that you know there'll be there's going to be there'll be there's going to be there'll be there's going to be counterfeit there probably already are counterfeit there probably already are counterfeit there probably already are counterfeit Nvidia cards you know made counterfeit Nvidia cards you know made counterfeit Nvidia cards you know made by somebody else it looks like it by somebody else it looks like it by somebody else it looks like it yeah interesting wow in fact seizures of yeah interesting wow in fact seizures of yeah interesting wow in fact seizures of fake Blackwell gpus that's GNA happen fake Blackwell gpus that's GNA happen fake Blackwell gpus that's GNA happen someone's going to make that someone's going to make that someone's going to make that stuff some of our friends in shenzen are stuff some of our friends in shenzen are stuff some of our friends in shenzen are listening right now and they're like hey listening right now and they're like hey listening right now and they're like hey this is a great this is a great this is a great idea like hey we we have we have the idea like hey we we have we have the idea like hey we we have we have the outer shells we have the specs and we outer shells we have the specs and we outer shells we have the specs and we have the weight let's just find some have the weight let's just find some have the weight let's just find some Pebbles that match the weight of this Pebbles that match the weight of this Pebbles that match the weight of this thing and uh let's let's start shipping thing and uh let's let's start shipping thing and uh let's let's start shipping boys let's go ship baby ship absolutely boys let's go ship baby ship absolutely boys let's go ship baby ship absolutely absolutely we had this we have this with absolutely we had this we have this with absolutely we had this we have this with hard drives you you get your hard drive hard drives you you get your hard drive hard drives you you get your hard drive like hey this thing feels pretty light like hey this thing feels pretty light like hey this thing feels pretty light and then you open it up and it's like and then you open it up and it's like and then you open it up and it's like two USB sticks in two USB sticks in two USB sticks in there there there it's memory cards USB memory cards yeah it's memory cards USB memory cards yeah it's memory cards USB memory cards yeah if you buy outside of the big brands if you buy outside of the big brands if you buy outside of the big brands with the right packaging you get you with the right packaging you get you with the right packaging you get you don't know what you get yeah yeah it's don't know what you get yeah yeah it's don't know what you get yeah yeah it's see another gamble that's also see another gamble that's also see another gamble that's also gambling does anybody remember how much gambling does anybody remember how much gambling does anybody remember how much money they used to have to pay for the money they used to have to pay for the money they used to have to pay for the smallest possible hard drives like if smallest possible hard drives like if smallest possible hard drives like if any of you here we're alive in the 1990s any of you here we're alive in the 1990s any of you here we're alive in the 1990s for instance maybe um it's yeah probably for instance maybe um it's yeah probably for instance maybe um it's yeah probably not cuz we're all Jen zers on the show I not cuz we're all Jen zers on the show I not cuz we're all Jen zers on the show I do I had some I had some of the early do I had some I had some of the early do I had some I had some of the early digital photo professional bodies digital photo professional bodies digital photo professional bodies digital photography professional bodies digital photography professional bodies digital photography professional bodies and they were using this IBM one and they were using this IBM one and they were using this IBM one gigabyte uh hard drives the tiny little

gigabyte uh hard drives the tiny little gigabyte uh hard drives the tiny little on that at the side of a of a of a card on that at the side of a of a of a card on that at the side of a of a of a card yeah that's advanced technology I was yeah that's advanced technology I was yeah that's advanced technology I was thinking of oh I got my 250 Meg hard thinking of oh I got my 250 Meg hard thinking of oh I got my 250 Meg hard drive you know that I paid $1,000 for or drive you know that I paid $1,000 for or drive you know that I paid $1,000 for or something like that or I remember something like that or I remember something like that or I remember because I'm really old um I was one of because I'm really old um I was one of because I'm really old um I was one of those few people who tried out and those few people who tried out and those few people who tried out and played around with played around with played around with os2 uh after the divorce between os2 uh after the divorce between os2 uh after the divorce between Microsoft and IBM and I remember and and Microsoft and IBM and I remember and and Microsoft and IBM and I remember and and NT was going to be coming along and you NT was going to be coming along and you NT was going to be coming along and you really need more RAM and I remember really need more RAM and I remember really need more RAM and I remember spending spending spending $800 to get 16 megabytes of RAM on my $800 to get 16 megabytes of RAM on my $800 to get 16 megabytes of RAM on my PC wow just think about PC wow just think about PC wow just think about that a 10 megabyte hard drive that was that a 10 megabyte hard drive that was that a 10 megabyte hard drive that was new the the mini computer in the first new the the mini computer in the first new the the mini computer in the first company I work for we upgraded the company I work for we upgraded the company I work for we upgraded the memory of one megabyte it was a prime memory of one megabyte it was a prime memory of one megabyte it was a prime computer it was $1 15K doll yeah one me computer it was $1 15K doll yeah one me computer it was $1 15K doll yeah one me think about that today today beef think about that today today beef think about that today today beef somewhere it's this size today you would somewhere it's this size today you would somewhere it's this size today you would say that's an embedded device you would say that's an embedded device you would say that's an embedded device you would say that's a say that's a say that's a microcontroller one megabytes is it's a microcontroller one megabytes is it's a microcontroller one megabytes is it's a toothbrush toothbrush toothbrush exactly but back then toothbrush back exactly but back then toothbrush back exactly but back then toothbrush back then you spent 15 grand to get it and it then you spent 15 grand to get it and it then you spent 15 grand to get it and it seemed like a seemed like a seemed like a miracle yeah also memory cards was also miracle yeah also memory cards was also miracle yeah also memory cards was also a good example of of moris law in terms a good example of of moris law in terms a good example of of moris law in terms of our storage and pricing because I of our storage and pricing because I of our storage and pricing because I remember I think every every digital

remember I think every every digital remember I think every every digital camera brand had its own branded memory camera brand had its own branded memory camera brand had its own branded memory card including Sony and Sony's was card including Sony and Sony's was card including Sony and Sony's was proprietary right you couldn't Soni and proprietary right you couldn't Soni and proprietary right you couldn't Soni and put into a cannon or Nikon right but it put into a cannon or Nikon right but it put into a cannon or Nikon right but it was one of those spaces that um in a was one of those spaces that um in a was one of those spaces that um in a good thing for consumers when everyone good thing for consumers when everyone good thing for consumers when everyone just started making aftermarket um just started making aftermarket um just started making aftermarket um memory cards and then the prices started memory cards and then the prices started memory cards and then the prices started you know coming down like every six you know coming down like every six you know coming down like every six months was uh there it is yeah that months was uh there it is yeah that months was uh there it is yeah that that's exactly what we're talking about that's exactly what we're talking about that's exactly what we're talking about it's actually Lear but this is the Sony it's actually Lear but this is the Sony it's actually Lear but this is the Sony propriatary format what was it called propriatary format what was it called propriatary format what was it called like memory stick Pro right uh memory like memory stick Pro right uh memory like memory stick Pro right uh memory stick just memory stick just memory stick just memory STI could only fit in a Sony camera yeah STI could only fit in a Sony camera yeah STI could only fit in a Sony camera yeah that was it and uh anyway yeah I spent a that was it and uh anyway yeah I spent a that was it and uh anyway yeah I spent a lot of money at Best Buy Circuit City lot of money at Best Buy Circuit City lot of money at Best Buy Circuit City and radier Shack um buying these things and radier Shack um buying these things and radier Shack um buying these things and uh yeah glad they're not expensive and uh yeah glad they're not expensive and uh yeah glad they're not expensive anymore cuz we don't cuz now we have anymore cuz we don't cuz now we have anymore cuz we don't cuz now we have like everything here yeah Sony was doing like everything here yeah Sony was doing like everything here yeah Sony was doing a good job of trying to lock you into a good job of trying to lock you into a good job of trying to lock you into things you know that takes you back to things you know that takes you back to things you know that takes you back to VHS and betamax takes you to HD DVD VHS and betamax takes you to HD DVD VHS and betamax takes you to HD DVD versus versus versus Blu-ray um all the format Wars and wild Blu-ray um all the format Wars and wild Blu-ray um all the format Wars and wild Gardens on formats and locking you in Gardens on formats and locking you in Gardens on formats and locking you in and so you're right Sony gave it because and so you're right Sony gave it because and so you're right Sony gave it because Sony tried to use their heft their power Sony tried to use their heft their power Sony tried to use their heft their power in the in the in the market to get people on board with their market to get people on board with their market to get people on board with their stuff but it's it's funny because I

stuff but it's it's funny because I stuff but it's it's funny because I think we talked about this on the show think we talked about this on the show think we talked about this on the show but my first digital camera was the Sony but my first digital camera was the Sony but my first digital camera was the Sony mavik which actually used a three and a mavik which actually used a three and a mavik which actually used a three and a half inch uh floppy so you could say oh half inch uh floppy so you could say oh half inch uh floppy so you could say oh yeah they went into kind of standard yeah they went into kind of standard yeah they went into kind of standard stuff but the battery was a camcorder stuff but the battery was a camcorder stuff but the battery was a camcorder battery that was proprietary to Sony so battery that was proprietary to Sony so battery that was proprietary to Sony so they find a way to put from propriatary they find a way to put from propriatary they find a way to put from propriatary into it oh my gosh that's crazy so into it oh my gosh that's crazy so into it oh my gosh that's crazy so what's going on always this will always what's going on always this will always what's going on always this will always happen when you know we have another happen when you know we have another happen when you know we have another business unit that's making a widget business unit that's making a widget business unit that's making a widget that can fit another widget and the p&l that can fit another widget and the p&l that can fit another widget and the p&l is already outlined I mean you're going is already outlined I mean you're going is already outlined I mean you're going to buy from me you're going to buy from to buy from me you're going to buy from to buy from me you're going to buy from within it's uh it keeps biting us but within it's uh it keeps biting us but within it's uh it keeps biting us but anyway you kind anyway you kind anyway you kind of it's just yeah you think back to when of it's just yeah you think back to when of it's just yeah you think back to when um Toshiba came out with their little um Toshiba came out with their little um Toshiba came out with their little tiny one gig drives that are tiny enough tiny one gig drives that are tiny enough tiny one gig drives that are tiny enough and Steve Jobs saw that and said I'm and Steve Jobs saw that and said I'm and Steve Jobs saw that and said I'm buying all of them from you and I'm buying all of them from you and I'm buying all of them from you and I'm gonna make a music player so you can do gonna make a music player so you can do gonna make a music player so you can do a thousand songs in your pocket um or if a thousand songs in your pocket um or if a thousand songs in your pocket um or if you and and also in the same vein you you and and also in the same vein you you and and also in the same vein you know and Pete and I talk about it on our know and Pete and I talk about it on our know and Pete and I talk about it on our our really upid famous documentary our really upid famous documentary our really upid famous documentary Windows Phone WTF we talk about uh well Windows Phone WTF we talk about uh well Windows Phone WTF we talk about uh well actually next episode when we have Jay actually next episode when we have Jay actually next episode when we have Jay Allard we're going to talk about the Allard we're going to talk about the Allard we're going to talk about the zoon uh and the Ken but in the zoom it zoon uh and the Ken but in the zoom it zoon uh and the Ken but in the zoom it was the same kind of thing it was was the same kind of thing it was was the same kind of thing it was Toshiba uh Tosha had a device called Toshiba uh Tosha had a device called Toshiba uh Tosha had a device called gigabits um and anyway the very first gigabits um and anyway the very first gigabits um and anyway the very first zoon was essentially a Tosha gigabits

zoon was essentially a Tosha gigabits zoon was essentially a Tosha gigabits but we're from Microsoft and it's brown but we're from Microsoft and it's brown but we're from Microsoft and it's brown I don't know you never know what people I don't know you never know what people I don't know you never know what people are going to do to try to get a product are going to do to try to get a product are going to do to try to get a product off the off the off the Launchpad yeah the soon was an Launchpad yeah the soon was an Launchpad yeah the soon was an interesting product it was now it's a interesting product it was now it's a interesting product it was now it's a punchline on South Park you know punchline on South Park you know punchline on South Park you know so all right anybody have anything else so all right anybody have anything else so all right anybody have anything else interesting to interesting to interesting to say we're really running out of gas say we're really running out of gas say we're really running out of gas today aren't we today aren't we today aren't we yeah pre pre Doss keep use I've been yeah pre pre Doss keep use I've been yeah pre pre Doss keep use I've been seeing a lot of articles on free Doss seeing a lot of articles on free Doss seeing a lot of articles on free Doss someone is still contributing to that so someone is still contributing to that so someone is still contributing to that so if you want to boot up Doss on your if you want to boot up Doss on your if you want to boot up Doss on your brand new brand new brand new computer there you go is it better than computer there you go is it better than computer there you go is it better than dosbox probably not I I love dosbox yeah dosbox probably not I I love dosbox yeah dosbox probably not I I love dosbox yeah that's how I run all my old dos games that's how I run all my old dos games that's how I run all my old dos games yeah it runs on Mac as well so I have yeah it runs on Mac as well so I have yeah it runs on Mac as well so I have one of course absolutely dosbox is great one of course absolutely dosbox is great one of course absolutely dosbox is great oh actually can I share my screen oh actually can I share my screen oh actually can I share my screen maybe um this is this is cool because maybe um this is this is cool because maybe um this is this is cool because and this tells you exactly where I am um and this tells you exactly where I am um and this tells you exactly where I am um I'm gonna we're going to run be afraid I'm gonna we're going to run be afraid I'm gonna we're going to run be afraid be very afraid you should start to be be very afraid you should start to be be very afraid you should start to be afraid all right afraid all right afraid all right um where is my little virtual machine um where is my little virtual machine um where is my little virtual machine here from Oracle virtual box I'm going here from Oracle virtual box I'm going here from Oracle virtual box I'm going to launch virtual box here and then to launch virtual box here and then to launch virtual box here and then inside all right I'm gonna go ahead and inside all right I'm gonna go ahead and inside all right I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen be very afraid share my screen be very afraid share my screen be very afraid yeah um well you get a t-shirt who Nas

yeah um well you get a t-shirt who Nas yeah um well you get a t-shirt who Nas need so that's true yeah well he got need so that's true yeah well he got need so that's true yeah well he got look I'm going to launch look I'm going to launch look I'm going to launch os2 os2 os2 2.1 oh my goodness we're powering that 2.1 oh my goodness we're powering that 2.1 oh my goodness we're powering that VM VM VM up yeah up yeah up yeah whatever here we go come on give me some whatever here we go come on give me some whatever here we go come on give me some os2 you can do it there we go wow oh os2 you can do it there we go wow oh os2 you can do it there we go wow oh it's much faster than the old one it's much faster than the old one it's much faster than the old one yes absolutely look at that absolutely look at that wow yeah there you go os2 wow yeah there you go os2 wow yeah there you go os2 2.1 thank you for making us feel very 2.1 thank you for making us feel very 2.1 thank you for making us feel very old at least some of us yeah what's old at least some of us yeah what's old at least some of us yeah what's crazy is that you know the 248 years ago crazy is that you know the 248 years ago crazy is that you know the 248 years ago this is where the Declaration of this is where the Declaration of this is where the Declaration of Independence was written in os2 os2 happy birthday America absolutely os2 happy birthday America absolutely and if you anybody who remembers so this and if you anybody who remembers so this and if you anybody who remembers so this is like when after the divorce and so is like when after the divorce and so is like when after the divorce and so IBM kept going with os2 and Microsoft IBM kept going with os2 and Microsoft IBM kept going with os2 and Microsoft went down the NT route but you can see went down the NT route but you can see went down the NT route but you can see Windows programs when Windows programs when Windows programs when os2 the code was in here and what part os2 the code was in here and what part os2 the code was in here and what part of the theme for os2 was like the first of the theme for os2 was like the first of the theme for os2 was like the first 32-bit operating system to run on a 32-bit operating system to run on a 32-bit operating system to run on a normal Intel you know PC and it IBM was normal Intel you know PC and it IBM was normal Intel you know PC and it IBM was saying a better Doss than Doss in a saying a better Doss than Doss in a saying a better Doss than Doss in a better Windows

better Windows better Windows Windows um because it could it could Windows um because it could it could Windows um because it could it could launch you because it had crash launch you because it had crash launch you because it had crash protection preemptive multitasking protection preemptive multitasking protection preemptive multitasking Microsoft didn't have that at the time Microsoft didn't have that at the time Microsoft didn't have that at the time um anyway O2 could have been the winner um anyway O2 could have been the winner um anyway O2 could have been the winner except for bad marketing from except for bad marketing from except for bad marketing from IBM um the fact that you had in as early IBM um the fact that you had in as early IBM um the fact that you had in as early as 9192 a 32-bit operating system with a as 9192 a 32-bit operating system with a as 9192 a 32-bit operating system with a graphical interface running all kinds of graphical interface running all kinds of graphical interface running all kinds of stuff they blew it you know but it was stuff they blew it you know but it was stuff they blew it you know but it was only running on IBM computer right no no only running on IBM computer right no no only running on IBM computer right no no it runs on any intel PC yeah I think he it runs on any intel PC yeah I think he it runs on any intel PC yeah I think he was not just we could do a whole episode on that just we could do a whole episode on that but I think it was more than just bad but I think it was more than just bad but I think it was more than just bad marketing it was also the fact that they marketing it was also the fact that they marketing it was also the fact that they didn't had access to same distribution didn't had access to same distribution didn't had access to same distribution Network that Microsoft already had so Network that Microsoft already had so Network that Microsoft already had so forget that the other com you were forget that the other com you were forget that the other com you were talking about only on IBM Hardware talking about only on IBM Hardware talking about only on IBM Hardware you'll remember in the 80s you know mik you'll remember in the 80s you know mik you'll remember in the 80s you know mik IBM realized the horse was out of the IBM realized the horse was out of the IBM realized the horse was out of the barn on clone computers and so you had barn on clone computers and so you had barn on clone computers and so you had Compact and Dell and everybody else HP Compact and Dell and everybody else HP Compact and Dell and everybody else HP making PCS and they're like oh we got a making PCS and they're like oh we got a making PCS and they're like oh we got a stop that and so they came up with stop that and so they came up with stop that and so they came up with something called micr Channel which was something called micr Channel which was something called micr Channel which was a new bus architecture and they came up a new bus architecture and they came up a new bus architecture and they came up with PS2 PCS running micr Channel that's with PS2 PCS running micr Channel that's with PS2 PCS running micr Channel that's where you got the PS2 Mouse connector where you got the PS2 Mouse connector where you got the PS2 Mouse connector PS2 keyboard and os2 running on a PS2 PS2 keyboard and os2 running on a PS2 PS2 keyboard and os2 running on a PS2 and IBM thought that was how they were and IBM thought that was how they were and IBM thought that was how they were going to reclose the market to have going to reclose the market to have going to reclose the market to have something kind of closer to like the something kind of closer to like the something kind of closer to like the Macintosh maybe um but it it maybe it

Macintosh maybe um but it it maybe it Macintosh maybe um but it it maybe it was too late it didn't work you know was too late it didn't work you know was too late it didn't work you know and also the other the three or five and also the other the three or five and also the other the three or five other group together and made an other group together and made an other group together and made an alternative so they already had alternative so they already had alternative so they already had power yeah compact got together with d power yeah compact got together with d power yeah compact got together with d and HP and all the other ones and came and HP and all the other ones and came and HP and all the other ones and came up with a compatible that was the funny up with a compatible that was the funny up with a compatible that was the funny thing if you re watch any of these thing if you re watch any of these thing if you re watch any of these documentaries IBM comes out with this documentaries IBM comes out with this documentaries IBM comes out with this new architecture and then guess what it new architecture and then guess what it new architecture and then guess what it couldn't run some of their own software couldn't run some of their own software couldn't run some of their own software it was incompatible and so there was all it was incompatible and so there was all it was incompatible and so there was all these big companies running all this IBM these big companies running all this IBM these big companies running all this IBM software or other software for software or other software for software or other software for to run their business and the PS2 to run their business and the PS2 to run their business and the PS2 wouldn't even run it so anyway with that wouldn't even run it so anyway with that wouldn't even run it so anyway with that folks I know you didn't want to see the folks I know you didn't want to see the folks I know you didn't want to see the os2 thing you're prob going to have os2 thing you're prob going to have os2 thing you're prob going to have nightmares tonight I apologize um any nightmares tonight I apologize um any nightmares tonight I apologize um any who thanks so much for joining us on who thanks so much for joining us on who thanks so much for joining us on This brilliant episode from live from This brilliant episode from live from This brilliant episode from live from London thank you Tom for making this London thank you Tom for making this London thank you Tom for making this happen for us with your satellite relay happen for us with your satellite relay happen for us with your satellite relay that you put up for us to make this that you put up for us to make this that you put up for us to make this happen this is great I really appreciate happen this is great I really appreciate happen this is great I really appreciate that um thanks for dropping by you know that um thanks for dropping by you know that um thanks for dropping by you know come check us out at iot cof talk.com come check us out at iot cof talk.com come check us out at iot cof talk.com listen to us wherever you get Podcast listen to us wherever you get Podcast listen to us wherever you get Podcast yes get some merch iot Coffey talk merch yes get some merch iot Coffey talk merch yes get some merch iot Coffey talk merch is the hottest thing you want to be seen is the hottest thing you want to be seen is the hottest thing you want to be seen this summer out on the street wearing this summer out on the street wearing this summer out on the street wearing that merch and what do you do when you that merch and what do you do when you that merch and what do you do when you buy that merch you help Elevate our kids buy that merch you help Elevate our kids buy that merch you help Elevate our kids where that digital divide you heard where that digital divide you heard where that digital divide you heard about well we're focused on kids let's about well we're focused on kids let's about well we're focused on kids let's get them laptops and connectivity so get them laptops and connectivity so get them laptops and connectivity so they can go to school and learn some they can go to school and learn some they can go to school and learn some stuff right we're going to learn you stuff right we're going to learn you stuff right we're going to learn you something kids anyway we're here to help something kids anyway we're here to help something kids anyway we're here to help that's the whole reason for this uh much

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